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Day 20: Hours away from Trumps second impeachment trial

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Day 20: Hours away from Trumps second impeachment trial

"Good evening once again day. Twenty of the biden administration and we are about fourteen hours away from the start of the second impeachment trial for the now former president tonight. The senate chamber has been ready with long tables in place to let the impeachment managers and defense teams do their work at a social distance today. Trump's lawyers revealed a much more detailed defense following the attack on the capital a month and two days ago in the nearly eighty page brief submitted to the senate document which manages to misspell the name of our country. His lawyers insist. The trial is unconstitutional and argue. Trump's speech on january sixth was quote not an act encouraging an organized movement to overthrow the misspelled united states government. They argue that trump did not direct anyone to commit lawless actions. They blame a small group of criminals who had come to the capital of their own accord armed and ready for a fight. They call the trial political theater. The nine house impeachment managers came back today with a five-page memo of their own writing. Trump's quote incitement of insurrection against the united states government which disrupted the peaceful transfer of power is the most grievous constitutional crime ever committed by president. They further right. The house will establish a trial that president trump merits conviction and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office tomorrow. We'll begin with a debate over the constitutional issues followed by a senate vote beginning wednesday each side. We'll have up to sixteen hours per side to present arguments congressman. Adam kin zinger. One of the ten republican members of congress voted to impeach trump is now urging that senators in p- is party convict trump in an op. Ed published tonight in the washington. Post the congressman rights and we quote. This isn't a waste of time. It's a matter of accountability. If the gop doesn't take stand the chaos of the past few months and the past four years could quickly return seventeen. Republicans many of them sitting at desks. That were ransacked by. The riders would have to come to grips with what happened in that chamber. Enough to join the senate democrats in order to convict the former president. Meanwhile the new york times reporting. Nbc news has confirmed that georgia's secretary of state brad raffles burger has opened an investigation into trump's attempts to overturn that state's election results. The investigation includes of course that now infamous phone call where trump heard begging officials to find about eleven thousand votes. Just enough to overturn the choice of the georgia electorate. This is also a critical week for president biden as he tries to keep his one point nine trillion dollar relief bill and the rest of his agenda on track today. His press secretary was asked whether he'll be watching the senate impeachment trial he will not spend too much time watching the proceedings at anytime Over the course of this week he will remain in closely in touch with speaker leader. Schumer a range of officials on the hill he will leave the pace and the process and the mechanics of the impeachment proceedings up to members of congress there are a few other headlines from capitol hill today republican alabama senator richard shelby revealed. He won't be running for re election next year the race race to replace him in a ruby red state will offer yet another test for the direction of his party in the post trump era and the house of representatives is remembering texas republican congressman ron. Right he became the first sitting member of congress to die of the corona virus. Would that let's bring in our leadoff guests as we start this new week ashley parker pulitzer prize winning white house. Bureau chief for the washington post shannon petty peace our senior white house reporter for nbc news digital. And they'll konczal department of justice veteran former acting solicitor general during the obama administration who has argued dozens of cases before the us supreme court. Indeed counselor because we're on the eve of the second trial. I'd like to begin with you and i'd like to begin this way to play for you. Some of the video case against trump and all that led up to six the only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election the swing states that we're all fighting over now. I won them all by a lot. And i have to say if i lost. I'd be very gracious loser. So i wanna do is i guess one of mine Eleven thousand seven hundred eighty loads which is one more that we have because we wanted to say and flip. The state is a great testament to our country. We're gonna have too much. Harder and mike pence is going to have to come through forest and if he doesn't that will be a sad day for our country. Eight capitol building the capital. Your you you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore you'll never take back our country with weakness you have to show strength and you have to be straw. Neil kaci all. That is nothing compared to what the house democrats will play for the chamber. How does the immediacy and vividness of their case. Work to take those weapons away from the president's defense the former presidents defense lawyers. I think it's powerful. It's you know. It's it's connect in a way. I mean if you think about january. Sixth was just a month ago. Brian in trump has already been in that time impeached in about to start his trial. In that way it's very different than her last impeachment ukraine which is about a fusty transcript in all sorts of stuff was hard for people to understand. This is your videos just demonstrated in the house. Well tomorrow will be a prosecution for the age of social media. This is something that is going. Everyone's going to be able to get understand right away. This isn't complicated. And the evidence is gonna come from trump's supporters people who said he invited us here he told us to be here in the like and not just on video. These are folks in court proceedings. Were saying exactly that defense through defenses. Essentially trump made me. do it. don't indict me and you know. I suspect that the house tomorrow will start. Prosecutors will start by playing the What gibbs stirred gabe sterling said on december. First he said. Mr president stop this rhetoric. Someone's gonna get shot someone's gonna get killed. What is trump do after that. Nothing except talk more and more about how the election was stolen as the clips That you said you know demonstrate so i think This is different than the last one. Ashley neal leads us nicely up to you as you know better. Most were coming off a highly politicized for years and a former president who commented on everything and folks need to get used to the comparative silence. That's going to come out of the biden white house while all this is going on Can you explain to viewers who may not understand biden's caution in not wanting to go near this excellently. This is a very deliberate public stance. Were seeing from this white house the questions of the president in how closely he has following the impeachment in what he wants to see happen in the trial in the senate. Come up in the briefing room as you said. Nearly every single day in white house press secretary jen psaki. Every single day makes clear that this is not foremost on president. Biden's mind that he is busy. Dealing with the corona virus in his corona virus. Relief package in shopping. Says he's not a senator anymore he wants to let the senate do its business in the few times he has weighed in and the president doesn't really like to weigh in the first time he said something like look this this has to happen this has to go forward But in talking aids he wasn't sort of saying that trump absolutely had to be convicted or putting his finger on the scale. One way or another it was more sort of existential train has left the station. The house his impeach the president. Now this is how the next step works. It has to happen. He is very careful not to weigh in and frankly he wants to move past this. He talked about unity as one of his campaign pledges and he does not want to. You know further. Divide the nation so this public stance is a very deliberate strategy. Where seed in very different from the former president and shannon petty piece take us into the debate over witnesses would calling witnesses Be after an audience in the chamber looking to get seventeen republicans to walk over the to the other side or the public at large of the kind of jury of public opinion or both. I mean that's a really great point as to who democrats are making their case to. Are they making their case. The public are they making their case to those republicans. They're trying to win over. i think. Democrats are divided on the issue of witnesses also gets into. What is the end goal here because witnesses could drag this out. And there's a large group of democrats including some within the white house or just wanna get this over with as quickly as possible so the white house can move onto covert relief and all the other items on their agenda. Their infrastructure plan their immigration legislation. So they wanna move quickly on this. Witnesses would slow that down but of course witnesses could help bolster the case to actually getting a conviction here and i think they're this goes to the divide within the democratic party right now of. What do they want out of. This trial is this about winning. Public support is this about doing something they have to do And then getting it off their plate or is this about really convicting former president trump in barring him from future office it can certainly be about a little bit of each of those things to people but which one wins out. In the end of the day i think will be determined. And we're gonna see a play out in real time this week meal. I got something else for you. I guess you the winner of the video daily double tonight. This is from lindsey. Graham will discuss on the other side. Democrats have done is basically cleared war on the presidency itself. The impeachment in the house took place without a hearing without one witness being called and without a lawyer when you combine a snap impeachment with an impeachment of a president. Who's out of office. You're going to destroy the presidency itself. They never envisioned going after president once. He's out of office because the purpose of impeachment is to remove the person not bar them from running in the future. George washington under this theory could be impeached for owning slaves. So counselor now that we've heard from the noted constitutional scholar. What say you to that argument. I mean call this nonsense as mean to the word nonsense. You know the idea to destroy the presidency on senator graham. We've had presidents for two hundred years with they've never faced for a to impeachments over anything like this The idea that you can't impeach a former official when we did so in eighteen seventy six when the very first impeachment was up a former official when the text of the constitution actually has punishment in it for a lifetime ban on future office holding is just really nonsense so i don't think that's going anywhere. I think he's also implicitly trying to pick up the argument that the how that the trump's to lawyers did today the trump somehow has a first amendment defense here and that he's a very passionate public speaker and he should be able to say what he wants. And there's a really important piece brian today. Written by peter kessler is kind of a legendary conservative lawyer. This is a guy who founded the federalist society the conservative legal organization and he writes in the atlantic that the defense here on the first amendment is really a joke he says obviously a first amendment defenses If you're in a criminal proceeding or civil proceedings so for example you can burn a flag or you can have a swastika. He says you know those are things which you can't be prosecuted for. But absolutely he says. The first amendment doesn't protect the impeachment of a public official like the president. Who's wearing a swastika. It makes no sense. The two things are very different. And so when senator graham says oh this is going to destroy the presidency should take that with a very serious grain of salt because frankly i think this is not a hard standard for any president to live by except the guy named donald trump ashley parker with this mandatory trigger warning. What do we know about the only twice impeach private citizen in the state of florida. What's he up to. What's he planned for this week. Well he is been talking to aids one thing or people close to him that they are relieved by. Is that twitter. They believed in him a huge favor even though they would never met publicly by banning him from the platform and i was asking that the president is. He's a former president. He does have venues and avenues to make his views known. You know he. Twitter is not the only way to communicate with the public but what they said is now it is a much higher bar right. Either has to put out a statement with his from his office or he has to do. It doesn't seem like that of a bar. But paul into sean hannity. For instance in that is different from the utter lack of discipline. Encourage that we all know by holding a device in your hand is the former president was so frequently dead seeing something. You don't like it. He on cable news at six. Am and just firing off a tweet. So in a way a level of discipline has been imposed on him which they are grateful for but in many ways you still the same. Donald trump We covered as president. He is furious. With liz cheney He blames her for her impeachment vote. He considers her. Obviously dick cheney's daughter part of the bushes. He said privately that she's out to get him because he so badly defeated jeb. Bush in the primaries is still frustrated with kevin mccarthy for not sufficiently defended him in his view. He believes even made leader. Mccarthy hasn't liked some apart these critical public comment so it's sort of trump as we generally know him slightly lighter in part because he can't broadcast every thought criticism in mississippi to the world. Right now and shannon finely to you. This is the test of the democrats being able to preside over impeachment and chewing gum. The president got his seventh cabinet. Pick today does all that stop. Will there be in your view. Any other senate business while we're covering this will. I believe the senate is gonna still conduct some business but this obviously sucks enormous amount of air out of the room and that's a big frustration among aids within the white house right now and the president himself. We're told because they are on a bit of a deadline here. A march fourteenth is win. The unemployment extension for millions of americans runs out. They want to get this covered relief. Bill has before then. So there's not this big gap in benefits from people. Also their vaccination program. They're testing aspirations. Genomic sequencing all of that is being held up until they can get an influx of funds from congress and achieve all these things. I wanna do on code response. So they don't feel like there's time to waste and even if the senate Behind the scenes in committees is able to carry on with work. It is certainly a distraction and it is also a distraction as they tried to build a pressure campaign on republicans and some democrats as well to get on board and get this push. The news coverage is going to be dominated by impeachment for the most part and they are going to have to work overtime an extra hard to try and continue the momentum they have in selling this one point nine trillion dollar koga relief package only our friend shannon can casually drop genomic sequencing into an answer and mean every word of it. Too ashley parker. A shannon petty beast to neil kat. Y'all are great. Thanks to our big three for starting us off this new week. Thank you very much coming up for us. A jury of one hundred of his peers. Couple of whom help doing site the insurrection. Let's be honest. What can we expect from the us senate. In the days to come former democratic senator and a former chair of the republican party standing by to talk to us and later we all know. Defense wins championships. But what about defending yourself from corona virus. Not a lot of that. In tampa last night will ask one of the nation's top infectious disease experts where we are right about now in the fight against it all of it as we're just getting underway on this monday night. Somebody who has provoked an attack on the united states capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes which resulted in five people. Dying who refused to stand up immediately when he was asked and stop the violence that that is a person who does not have a role as the leader of our party going forward we should not be embracing the former president record. Number of republicans voted for president trump republican voters support. Him still party is his. It doesn't belong to anybody else. There's your contrast inside the republican party with trump's second impeachment trial just hours away politico reports both democrats and republicans simply want that guy to go away andrew desert darrow frequent guest on this broadcast rights. The following democrats say the best way to achieve that goal as voting to convict trump for inciting the january six insurrection. And barring him from ever holding office again and republicans particularly those nervous about trump's continued stranglehold on the gop. Just don't wanna poke the bear which somehow brings us to our next guest with us tonight. Former minnesota democratic. Senator al franken. Who's these days has the good fortune to host a podcast bearing his name and michael steele former chairman of the republican national committee. Former lieutenant governor of maryland who these days also has the distinction of hosting podcast bearing his name gentlemen Welcome to you both senator. I'd like to begin with you. How certain do you feel. You are about an outcome of equival. Do you hold out any room. Do you hold out any hope that this evidence is going to be so vivid. Such punch to the gut to relive what was the taking of our capital. That maybe just maybe. The court of public opinion will sway seventeen votes on the other side. I don't think so. I think that They're afraid of the base. They what you saw there to our republican spoke there do represent a side. Add size of the party in. I think we know which side is is stronger. they're afraid and lindsay couldn't have been more wrong. You not only. Can you impeach someone out of their offspring important otherwise you would have the founders worst nightmare which is a first term president breaks. The law does everything he can to steal the election. And the worst that happens is doesn't this is basically what donald trump did and then there's no recourse. This is the founders worst nightmare that someone would use the power of the white house to try to seal the election and then basically just get away with it he. The this is proper is proper to have the trial they should in victim. But i these these republicans are too afraid. Michael steele. i want to play something for you. This is the pride of wisconsin republican. Senator ron johnson. From yesterday always believed the russian hoax was a diversion operation from the corruption that was occurring within the fbi and potentially our intelligence agencies. You have to kind of ask the question. What does this impeachment all about. We now know that forty five. Republican senators believe is unconstitutional. Is this another diversion operations. This meant to deflect away from potentially what the speaker new and when she knew it. I don't know but i'm suspicious. Ron johnson's remarks translated of course for any original russian. Michael does he know we can hear him and we can hear on tape. The rioters saying hang nancy pelosi. Where is nancy pelosi. Yeah not only that but asking where the vice president was i mean. He was just as much in their sights. As as nancy pelosi was and the reality of it is that ron johnson price should stop with. I don't know because he doesn't know he's just talking out of hearts of the body that don't so the the fact of the matter the fact of the matter is still remains going back to your first point which i think. It's important not to skip over. While while the democrats hope that this trial will just lead to trump just going away never running again and the republicans hope that okay we just don't poke the bear Both of those are wrong. The trial not lead to to that happening and the air doesn't matter where the polk not still bear still there And it's going to do what it's going to do. And i think both of these parties have to understand and appreciate what this moment is about. This moment is not about traditional politics in the back and forth that we saw play out in the first impeachment. This is about our country. This is about the sake. The sanctity and sacredness v will of the constitutional founding that. Support it now. Those republican senators like those democratic senators. You either down with that or you're not. This is not rocket science. It's not complicated. We know what the president did and all that evidence is going to be presented brian. It's very clear a lot of of seem it sought live and have relived it sense so for us as it is for them. The truth is in the telling and the experience now the act requires that you uphold that truth and convict but i think to the senators point. That's not going to be reality when this is over and the accounting will come later. Hopefully what the voters al franken. How often do you marvel at the republicans ability to rally around and protect their own. Especially to your first point if they are part of the base especially if they're part of that The trump caucus of marjorie taylor green has not had the reception from the party. A lot of Normal normal folks expected and it might be in the party. Dna a really bad time. Now i think that part of that is all disinformation. The two universes of information that people get The the newsmax a Owen fox I rather being sued It's a really bad time. And i do see. I agree with everything. Michael said and i do believe that When the republican senators look at this Look at the evidence they know what it is and they won't step up they just won't Quote to end this this block on. I've ever heard one. Both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with us coming up with all eyes on this upcoming impeachment trial. Let's focus on the current president as he tries to focus elsewhere himself. Does president biden. Think it's constitutional to impeaching convict a former president. Who is no longer in office. I'm just not gonna have any more for you on weighing in on impeachment. I appreciate the. It's a big story. But our focus is on the american rescue plan and delivering for the american people. Recent quinnipiac poll shows sixty eight percent of our fellow citizens support. The president's one point nine trillion dollar coronavirus relief package. Our guest remain with us. Al franken michael steele michael. I read this today from keith. Boykin trump is gone and going on trial tomorrow. Netanyahu is on trial today. Mitch mcconnell's no longer. Senate majority leader marjorie taylor. Green has been banned from house. Committees fox news cancelled. Lou dobbs and people are getting vaccinated. Not bad twenty twenty one. That's the view of keith. Boykin michael here's the question who is more eager to get beyond this trial. Phase republicans or democrats. Probably both at this point. You know for obviously different reasons. But i would say both are and i think probably you know in one sense for the same reason. I think there is at least from some of the folks. I've talked to someone on the democratic side. There really is this sort of course into the veins right now to get back into the into the swing of policy and debating around whether or not we spend a trillion dollars two trillion dollars and and and not not for the pure partisan nature of those conversations in those debates but seriously to figure out what is the right mix of funds to spend and do we do infrastructure. Now how do we continue to address covid. Nineteen so. I think there is some of that. That's beginning to emerge after what has been really four and a half years of kind of on again off again. Sort of policy. Making the biden team has really of struck that nerve. i think with a lot of folks on capitol hill. So that's gonna be something. I think to watch as proceeds which is why the administration has said very clearly. Look y'all go ahead and do impeachment where you got an agenda here. I love it and then we'll deal with the economy and etc etc education etc. So it'll be an interesting dynamic that they're creating right now for a lot of lawmakers who actually want to get back to doing lawmaking senator. I read tonight. Josh hawley is the only. Us senator to have voted against all. Seven of joe biden's cabinet nominees that have been approved thus far. Apparently he of the fascistic fist isn't into functioning government. And he's going to stay on brand and try to sell it my question for you as a former member of that agust body. Will we see sixty votes in favor of this massive aid package that joe biden wants and needs. Think we're gonna see much pass through reconciliation. And i don't think we're gonna see. We may see succeed for some compromise aspects of it. But there's a huge difference between the one point nine trillion dollar package. That is the biden baggage. Which does a lot of great things to help people and a the moderate responsibly. Moderate republican package. Which is a little over a six hundred billion and there's things aside from You know what were you. Cut off a people at seventy five thousand fifty or seventy five thousand member. You're going on two thousand nineteen taxes on on those tax firms So you don't know what someone made in two thousand and twenty people need help. Let's get them help. But there's also things in this for k through twelve education for tax credits for People who have lost their healthcare when they lost their jobs. There's democratic party is going to help people whether republican party likes it or not. Yeah i was gonna say to paraphrase a popular new jersey singer songwriter. We take care of our own. At least that was the idea. Just one we take your question and that question and that is put a finer point on reconciliation. When you say most of it will be passed on through reconciliation. Explain if it if it can be done what that is. Well do a reconciliation with with fifty one votes with majority. And that's exactly what we have and that's usually budget stuff in most of the that's how we ended up doing the affordable cara. That's how the two thousand seventeen tax cut which coincidentally costs one point nine trillion dollars. The same amount then. Of course you know. Republicans really care about deficits when a democrat is in the oval office. This is something that you can do. Reconciliation is something that you can do When has to do with money and taxes and those kinds of things and you can do a lot with reconciliation. And when you can't get the sixty votes you can get the fifty one. Brian reminded the senator wrote a piece in in rolling stone saying Look at deficits are back Michael steele i pointed a personal privilege. Fifteen seconds to you. And then i gotta go just real quick coal a sixty eight twenty four in favor of the one point nine trillion of abidance lottery republicans independence in that sixty eight percent of americans who support that and brian. What i did say for that. Was that suddenly. Republicans care about deficits in. They lonely. that said that's what that's what i meant. I wanted to correct. Young deficits have been around and skyrocketing over the past four years. But the concern is back. Al franken michael steele. Thank you both gentlemen. We'll do this again. Greatly appreciate it coming up for us from super bowl to superspreader event in florida. Why healthcare experts are fearing the worst after this weekend's festivities and because of what's making its way here from overseas i'm asking everyone to please keep your guard up. The continued proliferation of variants remains of great concern and is a threat that could reverse the recent trip positive trends. We are seeing a critical warning. The pandemic is still far from over one. New study says the more contagious. Uk very end is now doubling every ten days in terms of case. Count here in the us to date. Most of those cases are in wait for it. Florida the same state that just hosted the super bowl including last night's potential mass casualty incident. The unmasked victory bacchanalia in the streets of tampa where they were admittedly site about the trouncing. Victory here to talk about where we are in all of this michael oester home second straight guests from minnesota professor and the director of the center for infectious disease research and policy at the university of minnesota. He also a member of the president's covid nineteen advisory board. Michael coming into tonight I saw so many indicators. That were good we're up to having vaccinated least. I shot ten percent of our population. That's a start case counts on a daily basis are down. The death toll on a daily basis is down but then comes an event like tempa and then come these variants that show no sign of letting up. Tell us where you see things right now as of tonight well you described quite well. Thank you. This is a tale of two cities. We are watching case. Numbers come down. Which is wonderful number of desk dropping. Remember we're still Over fifty thousand cases higher reported per day than we were when the country was on fire back in july. We've kind of come to accept. This number is something. That's very good As far as the transmission of the virus so going forward we are now really under the influence of what is probably the worst of all the viruses. We've seen today and that's this particular variant. You mentioned from the united kingdom That particular virus is much more infectious. It ca- his Much more Likely to cause serious illness and death and it is now playing out here in the united states with his early spread throughout the country. Much like it's done throughout the european countries which each of them had to go into extensive lockdowns for days. Their rates of disease were extraordinarily high. And just to give you a comparison. An are worse day in the united states in the recent surge we had one hundred and thirty thousand hospitalize patients. If we had the same rate that they saw in london. Recently we'd be one hundred ninety five thousand hospitalizations a day. This is what we're up against the coming with and of course Right now the super bowl parties all over the country as well as what happened. Florida are surely going to be a way to reverse that trend of cases going down. Wow that's That's saying a lot. I wanna play for you. The president this was in his. Cbs news interview on the topic of reopening. Our schools are cdc. Commissioner was going to be coming out with science based judgment within. I think as early as wednesday as the land went the minimum requirements are. I made a commitment that we try to get k. Through eight back to school by the end of this one hundred days. I with the teachers unions. They want to go back to school. They need some guidance michael. What's your view. Can we meet this target. Can this be done and must it include vaccinations for teachers in your view. Well in terms of what we know about the safety of our schools younger children and teachers. I in fact it is true that code nineteen has been a much. Bless serious problem there. Then we've seen older kids and surely and adults. I think the challenge we have right now is again. Look to our Those countries in europe that have served as a model. I understand what this new variant virus does. Everyone of these countries have had to close schools in order to bring the virus under control. So what we're trying to do is reopened right now. At a which i think is a really very positive thing However we're doing it basically at the same time that this variant is coming in some ways. It's kind of reminds trying to plant petunias in a category five hurricane I think we're gonna have a real challenge in our schools back open staying open once variant takes off in our communities which it is going to do in the next six to twelve weeks. It is going to do it we. We are so appreciative anytime. We have a chance to ask you a couple of questions even though we may not like the answers at all times michael astor home. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. From the twin cities coming up for us set impeachment eve update on some of the others accused in the insurrection. The taking of the capital on six january on the eve of trump's second impeachment trial dozens of his supporters are facing criminal charges for their alleged role in the violence siege on the capital. Nbc news justice correspondent. Pete williams has a closer look at who many of them are. What their motivations may have been. Federal prosecutors have charged two hundred eleven people in the assault on the capital accusing some of planning violent attack. Well in advance to stop the vote count that came from forty three states men. Outnumbered women seven to one. At least twenty were military veterans absolutely spectrum support. I mean in many ways. January six was a bug late hebron extremists from all areas and they all came with different skill sets. The fbi says nearly two dozen had ties to right-wing extremist groups court documents. Say the proud boys how to plan for the rate helping to lead the crowd and pushing past the outer police barricades then using a police shield to break a window. The spot where rioters. I entered the capital. Investigators say members of the oath keepers militia. Group had similar plans and used cell phones. as walkie talkies to coordinate their actions. Prosecutors say some in the crowd were prepared for battle with helmets tactical gear and baseball bats. Twenty two are accused of assaulting some of the one hundred thirty nine police officers injured during the siege. Most of those arrested are accused of trespass some seemingly swept up in the fervor. The fbi says james up more of san antonio brought his son chance to the capital so he could have a memorable birthday pete williams nbc news washingto- and coming up for us gone too soon remembering one of the most unintentionally entertaining voices in all of show business. Last thing before we go tonight has a lot to do with the now deposed. Dear leader if it's not too painful think back to all those who threw away any self respect they may have had and became the most selfless genuflect trump. And right here. We're thinking graham as our burks pants. They were good at it. There was nothing they weren't willing to do or say in service to donald trump. But if we're being honest none of them can hold a candle to the recently deposed lou dobbs. He's being sued by smart matic voting machines because he made stuff up. He wasn't always like this. Though lou went to harvard and was once a normal guy. He was a local news. Anchor before ted. Turner hired him at cnn. Where toward the end. He became a birther before going all in on trump he left. Cnn fox the rest is history. Now he's history at fox. We have our friends at the daily show with trevor noah to thank for the following what they call their farewell to lou dobbs the most north korean broadcaster america has ever seen. We have a president who is a true leader. In my opinion i happen to believe will be regarded as one of this country's greatest presidents. indeed our greatest. This is a man who multitask. He is smart. He is filled with energy. Nobody's close. he comes from a pretty good gene pool. Have you ever seen a man is strong. I'm to say thomas strong. he's already set a standard for presidents. that most of mortals won't be able to meet your also one of the most log and respected. I would say that in history degrade lou dobbs. Trump is the greatest president since ronald reagan. And then i said he's the greatest president ever blue dobbs. She city's the greatest civil. I said does that. Include washington and lincoln and he said yes. Fade you mr president and yes i think he is doing. God's work god sent this president. And i'll tell you. The evidence is accumulating mightily towel. Would you grade president. Trump's leadership superb. Great are very good five. May saying everything is advertised. Ramp president has energized. there's sunshine being throughout the place on almost every face will be century after century veneration for the perfect. Nobody's perfect. We've got a really good job. He's pretty close to perfect show. We end almost every evening. It seemed saying thank you. President trump have a great weekend. The president makes such a thing. Possible us all a attributed to the former president he who provides great weekends our friends at the daily show. Playing us off the air this evening and by the way to patrick mahomes. We'll get him next time. That is our broadcast for this monday. Night as we all start a new week and with our thanks as well on behalf of all colleagues i have at the networks of nbc news good night.

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Monday 7 December

Monocle 24: The Briefing

29:37 min | 10 months ago

Monday 7 December

"You're listening to the briefing broadcast on the seventh of december. Two thousand and twenty monocle. Twenty four the briefing is brought to you in association with novartis. Hello and welcome to the briefing coming to you. Live from studio one here at the house in london. I'm andrew miller coming up on today's show. If we extended the transition period we be paying the eu. Moma millions of us. We can spend we've heard or seen on the side of a bus thought one before the answer to the question of deal or no deal cannot wait much longer. What is it going to be. Also ahead the. Us state of georgia has to vote again in january. It's not just that you're a crook. Senator it's that you're attacking the health of the people that you represent. We'll have the latest on the senate runoff which might end up deciding whether president joe biden can get anything done plus iran takes increasing liberties with the constraints on its nuclear program. And we'll have our weekly roundup of reasons to be cheerful ish. That's coming up right here on the briefing on monocle. Twenty four and welcome to today's edition of the briefing with me. Andrew miller it's now twenty four days and eleven hours give or take until the united kingdom exits the transition period of its departure from the european union and there remains no agreement as to the future shape of the trading relationship between the two entities. Still it's not like we've had four years to figure this out. Talks have resumed in roughly the millionth final. Push since this pageant began the mood among e u negotiators has been reported as downbeat. And they don't even live here. Uk negotiators remain morbidly obsessed with fish a commodity worth somewhere in the vicinity of not point. One percent of the uk joined with more on this by quentin peel. Associate fellow with the program at chatham house quinson as like coming lee foreshadowed. The clock is ticking. Is this the actual final final final. Push well. There is a pretty real deadline by that says do this week when there's a european council meeting in brussels and if they don't have a deal to put to them i think then they're not going to be able to get it through the european parliament and we're not going to be have a deal by the thirty first of december so east very close to the line now but as you say we've walked up to the line and walked down again. There is a dreadful thing called stopping the clock. We have naturally started trying to do that yet. Which just means pretending that. The clock is ticking. we'll wait and see but i think that we're going to get something in the next forty eight hours a korean other than the fish and i assure frantic listeners that we will come back to that subject. What is the actual problem or is it just the fish. No i think fish is actually something that could be resolved at the end of the day. More difficult is what they called level playing field and if you have a dispute about a level playing field for competition between the major sectors of our industries how to resolve disputes. so it's dispute settlement. I think the key to the whole thing actually lies with a unacceptable dispute-settlement procedure but behind all of this is theater and drama and particularly on the british side. They desperately need if they gain to make any concessions at all. They need to have shown that they fought and kicked and shouted and screamed right up to the bitter end and indeed that if they do make compromises they're not really compromises at all. So is the fish thing. Just part of that theatre in drama because you can amuse yourself for some time looking up the export commodities which are worth more to britain and and it's it's pretty much all of them yes absolutely and it was ever thus indeed. The nonsense about fish is that we're screaming to get much bigger quotas for our fishermen in british waters. We don't have the boats to fish quotas. That were demanding. And secondly fum more important is. We need the continental market to sell the fish that we catch. Guess brits don't like most of the things that were squabbling about like cookie sandjak scallops. We don't eat them. The french eat them longest. Even that's at eden on the continent so the truth is that the fish has always been a bit of a fantasy but because people can see them and touch them and think about fish and chips. They think that matters most. So what political calculation is the uk government making now because obviously they have a huge part of their brexit. Supporting base won't be happy until we've bricked up the channel tunnel and laid siege zanzibar. So any deal at all is going to annoy those people whereas the disruption in difficulty and bureaucracy occasioned by no deal is going to annoy everybody else. Yes quite that i think is the balancing. Act that boris johnson has got to decide on boris johnson. He's not a very decisive person. A noisy ferry good at the detail. What worries me about the place. Wherein is that i think everybody is into the theater and drum up to the last minute but we could crash die mistake even when they want to do a deal and the idea that we've got boris johnson so to solving things at the end of the day today he's gained to ring oppa slip underlying in brussels. Johnson's not very good negotiator. He needs professionals to do that for him. All of which is true. And the thing that boris johnson is always a being good at is functioning as a cheerleader as an uplifting. Is somebody who you know enthusing about the possibilities of things but does it strike you that. At this point the government he leads has more or less given up on trying to sell the upsides of brexit. They're presenting it. Now is something we just have to do even if nobody wants. That doesn't make any sense. Yes i think i mean. It's always been a clash between the economics which were bad and the bring back our sovereignty. Cry which was the positive one. So they're still making the bring back. Our sovereignty cry but they've really given up on saying it's going to be an economic triumph at least in the short term. We've had ritchey sooner with johnston the exchequer saying Odia well it. It will be quite difficult for a few months. But it won't be as bad as covid so i think that again to try and cover up the economic downside by saying oh the pandemic is really the problem having said that you've got really louder and louder noises from business from the haulage sector from northern irish business which is really worried that they're not ready for either a deal or no deal that desperately asking for more time and they're being told not going to get it just finally then. How much luck deal do you think the government will have in. I mean it's obvious enough what they're going to do they're already doing it. They going to blame europe and innovative policy for the conservative party. Is that going to stick. Vote if this does end up in a situation where they really are Consequences difficulty snarl-ups shortages taking a very big risk because the combination of covid and brexit is a ghastly one. And the idea that you might get tailbacks at the borders from january the first in fact. We're seeing it already With ports like felixstowe gumming up as people try to stockpile before january the first and covertly stopping them doing it. so it's a dreadful combination can conservatives. Get away with that. Well boris johnson has shown that he is full of bullshit and himself. Gonna but i think this one. He'll find very difficult to do. Clinton pale thank you as always you are listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four. here's yelling gone with the days of the headlines. Thanks andrew most of the. Us state of california has been placed under a strict new logo down it comes s covid nineteen cases surge across the state about eighty five percent of california's forty million. People have been told to stay at home and the order will be in place for at least three weeks. Taiwan's foreign ministry. Says the international community must join together in a bit to resist. china's might the self-ruled island is fearful that beijing will mount a land invasion and says it is important that other nations questioned their relationship with china. Romania's centre-left opposition have taken the lead in the country's general election. However it's understood. The social democrats will struggle to form a functioning. Majority turnout in the election. Was its lowest. Since the collapse of communism in nineteen eighty-nine and the monocle minutes reports that smokers in milan sparks transports stops cemeteries and stadiums will be prohibited from lighting up within a ten meter radius of other people. It follows a similar ban in singapore for more on this story. Heads to monaco. Dot com slash. Minute does Today's headlines back to you. Andrew thank you. You are listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four the two thousand and twenty. Us election is not quite over yet. On january fifth georgia will vote in runoff elections for its to federal senators and the consequences are potentially seismic. Should the democratic party win both seats. They will control half the senate a chamber in which the deciding vote in ties goes to the vice. President who as of january twentieth will be kamala harris outgoing. Us president donald trump staged his first rally since losing november's election in georgia at the weekend but spent rather more time talking about himself than either of the republican candidates while joined with more on this by suzanne lynch washington correspondent for the irish times. Susan welcome as always to the briefing. Can you explain first of all very briefly why. This wasn't sorta doubt on election day. Well georgia has got a specific rules governing elections whereby each candidate must reach a threshold of fifty percent in order to win an election. And what happened in these two races is up. Neither candidate did one of them. And the very very data went down very tight the wire the second rates however there were a number of candidates in that race so it was kind of obvious that nobody would get fifty percent bought at be. This quirk of timing to elections at the same time radiant. This daesh they now all. They're both going to take on january fifth so other explaining their huge kind of national attention now on those two races because they will unlock the key to control the sandwich for the next few years this race than the reason nuts so many congressional republicans have not as yet conceded that donald trump did not win last month's election. I think it's one of the reasons for sure. Georgia of course in the presidential election was an extremely important state. This time it traditionally and republican-leaning stage. It's got a very dark. His race relations aired driving the deep south and joe biden won the stage and donald donald trump and republicans are very annoyed at by this. If you remember the catch went on for ages for another recount secondary count and joe biden has been declared the winner now it is only by twelve thousand votes or so so joe biden won. This state very narrowly so the issue for democrats now is that they're wondering you know will be able to get their democratic supporters out for these two senate races because generally an enormous times these kind of off at presidential races. Never get the same kind of turnout from people. So what we've seen over. The last few days is barack obama actually took part in a in a virtual event with the to democratic candidates. On friday he already campaigned with them. Before the actual election but what the democrats are trying to stress is that anyone who needs to vote needs to register by this week. So they're really trying to get the turn out now to see if they can kind of replicate joe biden strong performance in georgia in these two senate seats because the democratic party clearly does sense blood in the water in georgia. Both the republican incumbents. I think it's fair to say there are certain questions Raised about the conduct of their financial affairs. We heard a clip at the top of the show of the democrat won democratic candidate. Jon ossoff calling. Senator david perdue a crook. That's the insider trading thing. Isn't it yet. It's the issue really is particularly insider trading. is the other candidates. She was investigated for this earlier in the year. She's an extraordinarily wealthy person. The wealthiest person in the santa's and she had traded stocks her on a number of other senators and they were investigative with this now. No charges were brought without very much damaged her in terms of her reputation and we had a debate on sunday night here in georgia with broadcasts across the country and she came under pressure at on that issue. Now david perdue who also as you say am. Thus he's got issues around his own stock trading as well which komo open recent days. He actually didn't turn up stock to something nice to john had an empty stage and he's a very good speaker. He very effectively criticized perdue because of his own controversial record of trading stocks as well So whether docked begins to kind of resonate with voters is another issue because these two republican candidates perjure after our cleaning close to donald trump through this campaign so you know they are m read to paint their democratic pullman ponant radical liberals and that may work with a lot of their constituents in georgia one thing. The last four years is that there is a sizeable base of american voters. Who simply could not care less about the personal business and other conduct of candidates as long as they perceive them to be off the right tribe. Is there any hope at all that this might actually workers the kind of i post trump election or is it going to be more of what we've heard for the last four years it could do. I mean i think analysts believe people are watching this closely. That it's gonna be a tough call for democrats to win these two seats in the problem. Andrew is that they have to win both of them and so they may could win one. The john awesome versus david producing. That's tighter. john also is quite high profile. he's been running very good campaign so we'll see But you're right. I mean i think what's happening now in georgia and white so interesting is that it's become a kind of microcosm for the nation. Ashby there is still extending races. There ever put their civil war among republicans in that state and we have seen this extraordinary vista where the two republican senators have called on the secretary of state. Brad raffles burger to resign. Who is a republican himself. And they've talked about the election back. November third wasn't ruined property and so they are echoing all donald trump's arguments on this and they obviously believe that that is going to resonate with voters. I mean polls are showing here that nationally around fifty two percent of republicans believe that donald trump won the election. They believe he saying so at these. Two republican candidates have often calculated that they need to echo and mimic the president's false claims on this even if it means taking on republican people in their own state so the the governor of georgia the secretary state georgia all these allow. These election officials in different states in this country are elected and they probably said you know. We're republicans were conservative republicans. But i'm sorry mr president. You have to win this election. But that is not resonating with these two republican senators who are continuing to kind of give donald trump or free pass on this on echo their concerns and of course the issue now republicans is people are wondering. Will this depressed her night if you keep saying. The election isn't being ruined property. Then maybe that's going to discourage republican voters for going on voting on january fifth. So that's another dynamic. Here that i think is worrying the republican site. Suzanne lynch thank you as always for joining us. You are listening to the briefing on monocle. Twenty four navarre's is is proud to partner the briefing on monocle twenty. Four navarre's is a company that is committed to reimagining medicine. Global health care leader intent on changing the practice of medicine and novartis has been exploring uncharted frontiers in science for more than a century. Today the company is working on breakthrough treatments that pushed the boundaries of human understanding biology. Data science and engineering to develop and deliver therapies. That help people live longer and healthier lives around the world. Novartis reimagining medicine. You are back with the briefing on monocle. Twenty four. i'm andrew miller one of the more pressing foreign policy questions facing incoming. Us president joe biden will be one of whether or not to rejoin multinational deal over. Iran's nuclear programmes it is clear enough that various players are attempting to render this question even not last month. Iranian nuclear scientists and fuckers awda was assassinated near tehran now in development very possibly not unrelated iran has announced its intention to install additional uranium enriching centrifuges remaining parties to the iran deal proclaimed themselves. Alarmed one joined now by holly douglas. Nonresident fellow at the atlantic council and editor of the iran source. Blog holly festival. Is this move by iran. A response to the death of muslim. Fuck rosado. I'm arguably it is. Yes to an extent but actually the spill was are going to be brought in front of parliament beforehand but some of the acceleration related to iran's nuclear program has been added because of the events of the assassination the a few parties to the deal france germany among them have proclaimed themselves alarmed as i was saying an what are they alarmed about specifically well the details of this recent bill that was passed by iran's parliament Says that iran will be allowed to enrich uranium by twenty percent and that means that it is beyond what is allowable under the two thousand fifteen iran nuclear agreement the other thing that's raising eyebrows and And concern is this possibility that iran might not allow international atomic energy experts to actually look at their nuclear facilities. I should note that these options will not happen until two things. The iranians are saying that they have two months to actually remove sanctions on iran's banks and oil sectors. So it's kind of an ultimatum to the incoming joe biden administration and the remaining signatories to the deal will own that thought. Does iran actually want the united states to rejoin the deal. I mean joe biden was of course part of the administration. The degraded in the first place. We'll certainly so they would like the united states to join the rejoin the bill because that would mean that the sanctions that have been imposed on iran under the trump administration as part of its maximum pressure policy would thereby be removed and not seems to be. The argument of president elect joe biden and he has said that if iran returns to strict compliance we will remove sanctions and rejoined the deal whereas iranians are kind of mirroring the same argument. And they're saying well. I remove the sanctions. Then will return to strict compliance. So that's kind of what's happening right now. This confusion about who's going to do. What i there's confusion on front in iran at the moment of course as well The reports from iran's in the dia told ali khamenei who is eighty one years old and has had health issues is really not doing terribly well and some reports suggesting that he has already transferred some state powers to his son. Though it's not entirely clear how entirely legal that is. What do you make of those reports. Why should start by saying it was one twitter account that had saw this and somebody had decided to quote it in a newsweek article and a lot of media outlets are picking up on it without any information about it and i think sense it's been published. Newsweek has had to somewhat the piece noting that they have no sources or backing of this claim. So i think we should take it at that and not look too much into it. And i should note that. It's that's not how things work in iran where you can just transfer power to your son. There's an assembly of experts that makes this decision which work like the college of cardinals in the vatican. So it's a lot more complicated than that we. We are only now a few weeks away from joe biden being sworn in what kind of outreach to you anticipate in both directions once that happens if as you say. Iran would really rather the united states was back on board. Well we should note that. There's about Forty five days left till joe biden takes office and it really depends on what happens from now till then we've seen this esscalation with this assassination of a top scientist iran. A lot can happen from until now but if we're to assume that things are quiet as they are right now the it seems that it's just gonna be a lot of going back and for some essentially one saying there. They'll act if the other one acts so it's like two people trying to walk through the door and one saying after you know after you and so that seems to be the direction that things are going to medically speaking now. I should know that the europeans can play a larger role in this as the as Traditional allies to the united states and also important signatories to the iran nuclear agreement. They can try to push for some sort of Speeding-up of the process of negotiations between the two countries to come to some sort of terms on how to move forward with the jcp way in what and what remains of it all he says at the atlantic council. Thanks as always. You are listening to the briefing room and finally on today's program. It's time for our weekly roundup of stories which depending on how you choose to look them perhaps not completely awful. Welcome to the thirty. Six of these desperate and vexatious lawsuits against the shattering election loss of the covid. Nineteen scape in the hope. Eventually encountering the gullible judge of good news that coming to take me away. Take me away. He he only five beautiful full right. There was good news for our better-informed listeners. Who will now be congratulating themselves on spotting the satirical allusion to the ongoing hapless campaign by us. President benito cop man against last month's election result on which subject there was good news over the weekend for anyone already becoming vaguely nostalgic for the days. When earth's most powerful officeholder would regularly host superspreader rodeos for hangers hooting yokels and. Just sort of a mad stuff for blue berries peppers squash and cucumbers. Who does cucumbers around here. Because i like cucumbers can you. I'm the only that's cleared up. We'd been wondering. Donald trump went down to georgia extensively to campaign for republican candidates in a crucial senate runoff election next month but and who could have foreseen such outcome etc instead wind interminably about how everything just isn't fair on him personally. I thought we were gonna easily win. That may be for the first time in a long time. I go take a nice little vacation for about two days and then we go back. In fact since becoming president trump has undertaken not fewer than two hundred and ninety two hours to golf courses. If you're asking what the good news here compulsively be of the van for the proprietors of the golf courses. He will short. We have even more time to visit. It's a fair question to which the answer is he lost and the longer he insists he didn't the more fun is for everyone else however and we're going to need some music that really absolutely definitely can not be mistaken for anything from triumph of the will. Your change says don't do it. There was good news for one. Politician lumbered with an arguably even greater handicap than being represented in court by rudy. Giuliani in namibia. One office seco was elected to the position of district administrative. Despite at least we hope not. Because of being named after adolf hitler. At all hitler mino- for it is he topped. The poll in the region in namibia is north finding himself the subject gov greater international interest than is usual for winners of local elections in via e any. There was further good news. When council at all fit known as sought to reassure inquiring reporters that he harbors no ambitions to subjugate the entire planet or anything still may be worth keeping an eye on him staying in africa. A win the lottery. Good news in south africa for several of those insufferable. Clever clogs is join pointing out the folly of choosing lottery numbers from birthdays or rooms and women's and insisting accurately if smugly any bracket of consecutive numbers has just as good a chance. In last tuesday's draw of south africa's powerball lottery this happened. Let's recap these numbers in your medical order. Five six seven nine and the powerball is ten. This turned out to be good news for twenty holders all a winning ticket who each wound up five point seven million rand richer about two hundred. Seventy eight thousand quid and after a nervous. Few days good news. For the lottery organizers after regulators declared the result above board though. We do hope that a long hard look. We'll be taken at any imminent visits made by south african lottery regulators to speedboat dealerships us and good news for australians who discovered to widespread surprise hidden depths to the national anthem. Advance australia fair. Which you can hear in the background is not considered one of your top echelon anthems. It's a somewhat leaden dirge composed by a scottish schoolteacher circa eighteen. Seventy eight and when aired out before significant sporting events is not so much sung by the crowd as awkwardly and impatiently mumbled by people visibly and audibly wondering what the line girt by sea even on reflection means australia's rugby team. The wallabies played argentina in sydney. And for the first time advance. Australia fair was rendered in an indigenous language that the euro people the original inhabitants of the vicinity by seventeen year old. We're addressing olivia fox and it sounded really pretty cool. We will not hear any argument that had australia's players spent less of the week before the game. Learning the your words they might have done better than a sixteen all. Draw with the pumas and that is all for this edition of the briefing. It was produced. By reese james in ulan. Gophers studio manager was steph. Chango the briefing returns at the same time tomorrow. Midday london me. Thanks for listening.

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Trump urges Georgias Raffensperger to overturn election

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

45:23 min | 9 months ago

Trump urges Georgias Raffensperger to overturn election

"Tonight the person donald trump now has to fear. Most in the world has never heard fanny willis fanny willis is forty nine years old mother of two daughters. And tonight fanny willis stands on the threshold of history. She might become the first prosecutor in history to charge a president of the united states with committing a crime. Fanny willis's the district attorney of fulton county. Georgia georgia secretary of state was in fulton county on saturday. When he received a phone call from the president of the united states which several former prosecutors have out said contains evidence of federal and state election crimes committed by donald trump. the president cannot pardon himself out of legal trouble in fulton. County because presidential pardons apply only to federal crimes. Not state crimes. Fanny willis issued a written statement today saying anyone who commits a felony violation of georgia's law in my jurisdiction will be held accountable. Anyone fanny willis was elected district attorney on november third in the same georgia election that donald trump is now lying about fannie willis has by now heard donald trump say on that phone call to georgia's secretary of state quote fulton. County is totally corrupt. Those were donald. Trump's exact words trump repeatedly lies about the voting process in fulton county. That elected fanny willis the first female district attorney and fulton county history. The second black journey and fulton county history on that phone call. Donald trump doesn't just insult fulton county. He insults the entire state of georgia. In one part of the call that has not made the highlights reel. donald trump. Makes it clear how ridiculous he thinks it is that anyone would choose to live in georgia if they could choose to live anywhere else that passage also highlights the absurdity of the lies about the georgia election told by donald trump and his lawyers who might be as criminally liable as donald trump for what happened in that phone call. Donald trump says quote. You have all these different people. That voted but they don't live in georgia anymore. Donald trump then asks one of his lawyers cleaned mitchell for the number. They have invented for that. Category of georgia voters and she says quote. I don't have that number right in front of me. The lawyer for the office of the secretary of state ryan germany. Who was on that. Call explained the truth to donald trump and his lying lawyer. Everyone we've been through our people that lived in georgia moved to a different state but then moved to georgia gentlemanly. And how many people do that. They moved out and then they sit back and it doesn't sound like a very normal. You mean they moved out and what they missed so much that they wanted to move back in. It's like well and then this is. They moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. Donald trump can't believe that anyone could grow up in georgia and then find that quote. They missed it so much that they wanted to move back in. That is exactly the story. Gladys knight and the pips turned into an everlasting hit in nineteen seventy-three titled midnight train to georgia a song. Donald trump has no doubt heard thousands of times like the rest of us. And i'm the rest of us never comprehended a single word of it. That is the story of fanny willis's life. She georgia to go to college at howard university. And then she came back. All trump said that moving back to georgia doesn't sound quote very normal of course. Donald trump is the expert on. What's very norm. It is on the basis of truly perverse beliefs like that. The donald trump asked the georgia secretary of state to commit the crime of finding eleven thousand seven hundred eighty boats. So all i wanna do is this. I just want to Eleven thousand seven hundred eighty votes. Which is one more that we have. Joe biden beat donald trump and georgia by eleven thousand seven hundred seventy nine votes so donald trump wants to add that number plus one to his vote totally doesn't want any changes and joe biden's vote coal that number would give donald trump exactly a one vote victory in georgia. One vote out of nearly five million votes cast. Donald trump thinks that would look perfectly normal. Nbc news reporting that saturday's phone call came after eighteen failed attempts by the white house switchboard to connect the president's to georgia's secretary of state before the secretary of state decided to accept the presence. Call on saturday. He also decided to tape the call to the secretary of state told politico why they decided to tape the president of the united states. This is a man who has a history of reinventing history as kerr's so if he's going to try to dispute anything on the call it's nice to have something like this hard evidence to dispute whatever. He's claiming about the secretary. Lindsey graham asked us to throw out legally cast ballots so yet after that call. We decided maybe we should do this. Donald trump did get one thing right on the phone call. He twice twice called himself a schmuck he said quote what schmuck i was. Schmuck of course is yiddish for foolish person. Schmuck also now means a president who would call the secretary of state of georgia and ask him to commit a crime while the conversation is being taped secretary of state brad. Raffles burger wisely. Let donald trump do most of the talking. He and his staff didn't bother replying to most of what the president said. If fulton county district attorney fanny willis does prosecute donald trump for attempted election fraud. She will no doubt be playing this portion of the tape for the jury in her final argument. So tell me. Brad what are we gonna do. We won the election. And it's not fair to take it away from us like this and it's got to be very costly in many ways and i think you have to say that you're gonna reexamine it and you can re examine it but but reexamine it with people want to find answers not people that don't wanna find answers. You have to say that you're going to reexamine it. That an order secretary ratzenberger said we have to stand by our numbers. we believe. our numbers are right. Reexamined reexamined this reexamined. This phone call. What is going to be reexamined and reexamined by criminal. Investigators is the phone call. Donald trump made to georgia's secretary of state. That's what's going to be reexamined. Phone call ended after an hour and eight minutes. Not because donald trump had anything else to do because secretary rance burger finally ended it by saying thank you president trump. For your time when you listen to the entire our eight minutes there is nothing even slightly surprising about donald trump in that phone call. He has always been the person he is on the call. Everyone in new york. Who knew anything about him. Knew that this is the kind of person he would be in the presidency. Because donald trump is incapable of change and donald trump has always been too stupid and too clumsy to pretend to be anything other than what he is a vulgar uneducated racist businessman. Who had to be bailed out of his bankruptcies by his racist businessman if you only started watching donald trump when he became a presidential candidate and president of the united states. You saw enough to be completely unsurprised by what you hear on that phone. Call with georgia's secretary of state our first guest the chief prosecutor of donald trump in his senate impeachment trial told you he told you this was going to happen. He has done it before he will do it again. What are the odds. If left an office that he will continue trying to cheat. I will tell you one hundred percent. He will continue trying to cheat in the election until he succeeds. Then what shall you say leading off our discussion. Tonight is democratic congressman. Adam schiff for california. He's chairman of the house intelligence committee chairman shift I have to ask you. I'm sure you have many reactions to this phone call. You have many feelings about this phone. But i will be do. I'm assuming surprises. Not one of them intel. It's not tell you it took me back listening to that reporting a. I think anyone who's ever worked on organized crime face. I listened to a wiretap of how organized figures talk with each other. It's just like this here. The president saying he wants a the secretary of state to find him. Eleven thousand eleven thousand seven hundred eighty votes just one more than is necessary and he goes on to talk about how you know that's always asking for and And you need to have people who wanna find the answers and this is how organized crime figures talk to each other and you know the other impression i have frankly was you can imagine this. That conversation with any number of third world dictators after an election in which either. They've lost or their mayor. Lost the governor lost and they call elected officials and they tell them what they need to find to that happening in this country. It just takes your breath away. A what was your reaction to the secretary of state's decision to take the call new. The president was calling. President made eighteen attempts to get him on. The phone decided. Okay when i get on the phone. I'm gonna make a tape recording of this call. Well it was obviously very wise. And i can certainly understand why he made that decision to do it because the president would misrepresent anything that took place on that call and because it was very possible the president was going to ask for something that would be a crime and indeed. I think this is going to require those local officials to look into the matter with an eye to weather georgia. Laws have been violated so it was the right decision it was. I think courageous act when a many courageous acts. And i suppose the flip side of all this lawrence is there are any number of courageous acts people all of the country from local elections officials who refused to be intimidated to a top elections officials. That are getting browbeaten by the united states and standing up to him so You know from those workers who went out during a pandemic air lot of heroic stories in the face of this assault on our democracy a carson shift. The president made that call yesterday. I personally believe with the full knowledge that he is going to self. Pardon himself on jan the morning of january twentieth retroactively for every day of his presidency and possibly twenty years before to wipe out every statute of limitations. He could possibly face in any federal criminal charge for his entire life. knows before he makes that phone call that he's going to pardon himself for all possible. Federal crimes during his presidency. An an and that is it seems to me part of the dynamic of what we're seeing on the call. Why he knows he can't face. He believes he won't be able to face any criminal prosecution. Federally because of this call is certainly very possible. That that's part of what's going through his head that you're going to try to protect himself now. I don't think that's effective It doesn't mean the president won't try. But i think that if he were to do so i ultimately were prosecuted in federal criminal or That case would be would go up to the supreme court. It would be offered as a defense against the prosecution but i think ultimately even this court would reject the idea that the president is above the law in pardon themselves particularly because the language of the constitution says that the president in grant in that suggests that you can't give it to yourself. You're granting to another but also because it would negate all other portions of the constitution. If the president didn't have faithfully execute the laws could encourage people to engage criminality. And then say that they will are them at arden himself. So i think that kind of self defeating interpretations not one that even this or would give. You may be right. He may feel he's got to get out of jail free card or it may just be. You know the nature of the beast. That is. he can't help himself. he this is who he is. He is without ethical. Compassi will never find his way and that may be a part of the issue here to some of your democratic colleagues have asked the fbi to investigate this phone call. Do you believe the fbi should get involved. I i would have to think more on that lawrence frankly. I'm focused right now on wednesday when we have a very long day ahead of us with. There's another sorry. Sorry story being told. And that is so many republican members of the house and senate going along with the presence effort to overturn the will of the people to essentially negate a presidential election. So all my focuses. On that. I have haven't looked at the golfer a federal investigation over the centuries solution. We just need to make sure we get through wednesday at keep our democracy intact chairman. The rules call for two hours of debate in a both bodies house and senate for any challenge posed a to elect doors Is it possible that you won't use the full two hours in the house that you'll see a back some of that time in order to make the process go quicker i it is certainly possible. We don't know how many states begins will challenge if they challenge you five or six that the president has been falsely contending contain some kind of irregularity than it will be a very long day and night it may depend on how long the republicans wanna go within those two hours and how much we feel. We need to rebut arguments that they may. But we're going to try to keep the focus needs to be on our constitution on the peaceful transition of power and on the need to make sure this exercise itself government continues and succeeds house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. We always appreciate it thank you. I'm only come back after this break. Our former georgia. Us attorney will join us next to consider the words of donald trump in that phone call. That might be used against him in court in federal or state prosecutions not here the curse the darkness. We handle light a candle. I'm chuck rosenberg on my podcast. The oath i talk with people who served with integrity and honor men and women who liked the way this week former new zealand police commissioner. Mike bush particularly with first time offenders. You wanna give them a chance. You don't wanna automatically put them on that justice cycle with i end up in jail. If you're gonna vein with a young person they something different and send them on a different path. That's why you've come to join me for season for the oath and msnbc podcasts. Search the forever. You're listening right now. And subscribe new episodes every wednesday two senate seats at stake control of the senate on malign if republicans win one of those or both of those they stay in charge in the us senate to matt. O'brien hume's steve. Kornacki will break down the results county by county. The challenge for democrats is to try to get to biden levels of turn out in support with analysis from joy. Reid and nicole wallace short run offs fight for the senate tonight at seven on. Msnbc fanny willis served as an assistant district attorney in fulton county georgia for sixteen years before she won her election campaign for district attorney in november. She was sworn in as district attorney of fulton county on new year's day and the next day the very next day the president of the united states placed a phone call to fulton county. Where georgia's secretary of state sat and listened to the president of the united states. Tell him to find eleven thousand seven hundred eighty votes. donald trump said quote fellas. I need eleven thousand votes. Gimme a break fanny willis now has to make the most important decision. A district attorney has ever had to make. Did the president of the united states commit a crime in her county when he said fellas. I need eleven thousand votes. Gimme a break joining us now. Is richard housing professor of law and political science at the university of california at irvine an author of the book election meltdown dirty tricks distrust and the threat to american democracy. Also with michael. J. more former. Us attorney for the middle district of georgia. He previously asked the georgia state election. Board to investigate. Senator lindsey graham for his phone call pressuring brad reference burger to in the election of michael moore. Welcome back to this discussion here. on the last word i wanna get your legal reaction Both state and federal in terms of state and federal laws. To what you heard that phone call well first. Thanks for having me back and you're right. I did follow a complaint state. Election board about senator graham's conduct and really this conduct by the president fits hand in hand with that The it's pretty clear that he uses some threats You can hear them. It's almost like listen to an episode of the sopranos in his Recorded call with the secretary where he essentially says. Look i need the votes There's some bad things that are going to happen. People are laughing at you by the way you may be in legal trouble for not investigating certain things so he he threatens him he courses emmy tries to strong arm into not doing his job or to his. He calls at recalculating the outcome of the election. that seems to be pretty clear effort at Tried to influence a state official in the performance of their official duties but also To commit election fraud and so. I think it's an interesting time if you ask me. And i heard you look your prior. Guest congressman schiff This to me looks like a state. Offense it happened in the state. The president has happened to to make the poor judgment to make his telephone call into a state that allows one party consent for the recording And so we've got the record. We listened to him on tape and he's just like a of the other preval defendants in that is that they just make stupid mistakes. That is they don't know when to shut their mouth. They either talk too much on recall or on liar. Sometimes i send silly messages. Emails are takes. And that's what's called them and that's essentially. What's here the problem. He's got as well is that he's in a state which does not have a the governor's authority to harden individuals. So you mentioned his quest maybe to do a all encompassing you know a burning incense and giving himself a grandpa and everything. He's ever done well in georgia. That would be a decision. Made for the board of pardons and paroles so he really has probably stepped in it as far as state law a here and while it's a lot to ask the new to look at. It seems pretty clear that the presence laid out a case at least in that our telephone conversation that married some further investigation richard. And what about a federal case. You can have a federal prosecution. Investigation this call of in the washington. Dc us attorney's office where the call originated or in the georgia us attorney's office where the call was received. But i think this is gonna come down to a question of what the biden Attorney general is going to walk to do. Because i think certainly if you look at both the federal statute and the georgia state statue which is heard about. They both prevent people from intentionally stuffing ballot. Box that is literally coming up inspect fake boats to try to alter the election process that deprives georgia voters ability to vote in a way that is In line with with how would it actually reflects the will of of the people of georgia. The real question would come down to political one as to whether or not any Federal prosecutors wanna go after a former president and also the question of intense. It could be that. Trump is so diluted by the kinds of false claims that he made in this rambling. Hour-long call that he actually believes that there are votes to be found that Wrappings burger has not done his job and that in fact he wasn't to win the election. That would be a jury question but before we ever get jury. It's a political question as to whether any federal prosecutor is going to go forward against the former president and michael moore the edison odd event Today georgia where the us attorney with jurisdiction over or this area of georgia suddenly resigned. A he said because of unforseeable circumstances a trump appointee he was expected to resign on or just say the day before inauguration day that would be customary but he resigned today because of unforseeable circumstances. I guess unforeseeable circumstances that the president states might commit a federal crime in your jurisdiction. But i don't believe much coincidence especially when it comes to politics like this and so it strikes me as odd that he left today i know. bj pack is a friend of mine While we might be in different political parties. I consider to be an honorable guy. has a lot of integrity. And and he's he's done a good job running the office there so to leave in the abrupt manner that he did certainly Raises some suspicion. And you know you have to wonder was. He asked to do something that he didn't want to do. Was he asked to initiate some investigation. Perhaps people who weren't seeing at the way the administration wanted things to come down. You know that's that's the question. I don't know that. But again. I don't believe in much. Go instance let me say one thing about ten. If i can sort of follow up the president basically told us his intent and the telephone call when he said he just needed this one. Vote over the amount. He pretty much gave it away that he's not concerned about general election fraud. He's not concerned about any other election. He's not concerned about investigating frogs about it. He's just say. Just give me personally enough enough to overcome the gap and that's a pretty good indication that there's an intent there to do something wrong as opposed to move further into an inquiry that you might say that somebody of some basic character If there was some legitimate concern would ask for. He didn't do that he just said look. I just need one. Just find me some votes enough votes. Surely you can find enough not make sure that all the votes that all these conspiracy nuts. Thank have been disenfranchised. He said he just wants enough to flip so that he can claim victory in the state. So i think it's pretty clear intent Certainly would would be arguing not be happy. In the year to make that argument to a jury and the other side of that particular evidentiary coin is. He's very clearly saying you better not find one more. Vote for joe biden when you go looking for votes Formula sturdy michael moore georgia professor. Rick hasn't thank you both very much for joining us on this tonight. We really appreciate it right. We thank you after this break. Eugene robinson and pennsylvania state representative malcolm can yada will consider the trump phone call. Hey it's chris. As this week on my podcast wise happening. I'll be talking with josh jessica about the absolutely mind. Blowing story of trump's wisconsin foxconn deal. The company did not really have a plan for what to do in wisconsin employees. I spoke to talk about being told to figure out something for foxconn. to make and wisconsin. The big push toward the end of two thousand. Eighteen is just hiring the two hundred and sixty people. They need to get subsidies. No-one where these people are supposed to do. And by the end of the year they're just sitting around in this nine hundred and sixty s office building. Fox condon's bodies at headquarters. Milwaukee watching netflix at this week on. Why is this happening search for. Why is this happening. Wherever you're listening right now and subscribe big wrong with saying that you know That you've recalculated because Two thousand to thirty six. An absentee ballots are there. They're all exact numbers that were were done by accounting firms law firms and such that even if you cut them in half cut them in half and half again. It's more votes than we need. But mr president the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. Giants now eugene robinson associate editor and pulitzer prize winning columnist for the washington post. Msnbc political analysts also with us pennsylvania state representative malcolm can yada. Let me start with you on what you just heard on that phone call. There's no the president telling georgia's secretary of state what his story can be. This is what you can go out and sell publicly after you've suddenly come up with your by a eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty votes. Lets me win the state of georgia by one vote. Let's be clear what we hear in a conversation. What we hear is an hour's worth of donald trump. Brian invents The secretary of state of georgia bread To falsify the results of the election to find find a eleven thousand seven hundred eighty boats with who him one boat more than he needs to reverses deficit in georgia and win the state he's activities asking rapids burger to commit a criminal act not just a criminal act but but an act. That that that that goes against the core principle of our democracy. I mean this is much worse than anything we heard in the nixon picks and and i don't minimize at all the nixon tapes. Richard insulza crock. You'd probably cia. Trenton sets on the fbi's gatien using instruments of our government in that manner. It was outrageous and and he was. It was actually right that he had to resign. But this is worse because it strikes really at the heart of our entire system we have we. We all respect the results of our elections and we have a peaceful orderly transfer of power like it or not and that has to be the case. And that is the core that i thought was strong at the heart of our democracy and it turns out to be quite fragile because donald trump is is making serious serious cracks in this is this is not just outrageous. But it's really serious for the future of our democracy representative can you. What was your reaction to what you heard on that phone call. Well frankly this is what the president has done his entire term in office. And when i see folks like josh hawley and ted cruz stunt queens. Who are out embarrassing. Themselves embarrassing their states. I'm reminded of the fact that this is not new right. Republican party using conspiracy conspiracy theories for electoral gains and with all due respect. I'm grateful to see statements from mitt romney and others and we even see some statements from my state. My senator here. I'm pat too late to me. Were now putting out statements. And i'm happy that they're doing that but the reality is that they have been lockstep with this this entire time and what we can't do is allow folks like them who've written the trump train the entire time. Jump off on the last stop and act like they weren't there for the ride. They were there for the ride if they have really turned over a new leaf. If folks like that to me. Mitt romney others paul ryan if they have really turned over a new leaf. Listen my christian. Faith teaches me all about forgiveness but it also teaches that faith without works is dead and so i want them to keep that same energy about pushing back against republican attempts to make it more difficult to boat. I want them to keep that same energy about passing the john lewis Voting rights act. I want to keep that same energy about speaking out. A against all the conspiracies that allowed us to get here in the first place. And i think all the time about these folks who voted to allow donald trump to go scot-free after impeachment. What the hell do they think was going to happen. A such a good point Gene robinson adam schiff told them what was going to happen. It has now happened. And i think i was in high school and college watching the nixon drama on old and so I know malcolm wasn't with us yet to watch that we discover the learn. Sir what what we discovered was that nixon had limits. There were things that his law school education had implanted in him at when the supreme court gave him an order. He didn't see any choice in the end. But to comply with the order he had limits. And what you hear on. The donald trump phone call is that there are absolutely no limits and no recognition that law has anything in any way can contain the behavior of donald trump. He simply goes in. Carry has no limits and should be surprised at this point in the trump presidency after four years. We've seen no limit win. We ever seen a limit that he imposed on himself or that he respected at all. It's two two quick points about the election first of all because of the the attempted foreign interference in the two thousand sixteen election. All questions and trump going on and on about voted for all the time. The twenty twenty election with probably the most scrutinized You know election procedures were improved. Money was thrown at it. These were probably the cleanest book error-free license week hat right. Listen this is probably the best we've ever we've ever done and yet president trump has made you know there's noise and again votes in georgia for example got three times and he's also three times been lose yet again but but that's one point. The other point is his special emphasis on georgia I can't escape me. He has a thing about stacey. Abrams yes it thing. I believe about the fact that that and a strong african american woman led african american voters in delivering him a defeat in a state that he thinks he should have one. And you know it's into the racism of donald trump but again that's not a surprise and now he's facing a strong african american woman as the district attorney of fulton county. Who will decide his possible. Future as a defendant in that county representative can yada a. What would you say to the house. Representatives of the senate on january sixth when pennsylvania's electors are challenged as senator. Holly promises. He will do what i would say to them is. I wish they would join me in reality. The water is really warm over here. At the end of the day. Joe biden it will be the next president of the united states on january twentieth at noon. Kamala harris will make history as the next vice president of the united states of america and they can scream and cry embarrass themselves in ensure that they go down laughing stocks in the history books. But that's the choice. They are going to make at the end of the day. This was a historic victory for joe biden in for kamala harris. And you know these are theatrics but at the end of the day things invokes really can get hurt and what i see at risk of getting hurt. Right now is our democracy and what they are setting up with. This precedent is at any time. There's an election if your side doesn't win. You can claim that it was rigged that it was a fraud and gold or and really make a plump full of yourself. I've never seen somebody lose this badly lose. This often lose this repeatedly and keep going back for more but this is the story of donald trump in his defense pennsylvania. State representative malcolm kenya. An eugene robinson. Thank both for joining our discussion tonight. Really appreciate your coming up. Three million people. Three million have already voted in. Georgia's senate elections tomorrow is election. Day will be counting votes tomorrow night. A an expert on georgia political campaigns and voter turnout will join us next to tell us what to look for in those election returns tomorrow night heard about that recorded conversation. Well it was. Yes certainly the voice of desperation most certainly that and it was a ball bob. They bold abuse of power by the president of the united states harris campaigning yesterday in georgia. Here's joe biden campaigning. In georgia today you have two senators now. Think they don't work for you. They work for trump. I got twenty nine years old and six more times. The united states senate from delaware. And guess what not once. Did i think i took an oath. Any president democrat republican. I took an oath to the united states constitution president. I don't believe united states. Senators are going to work for me. They worked to the people at georgia. That's why not asking your senator to be loyal to me. I believe they should be to to georgia. The united states constitution period. And here's raphael warnock today. Campaigning against republican senator. Kelly leffler. She had barely unpacked. Been there three weeks which you heard about the coronavirus pandemic rather than focusing on the folk who was sheltering in. She was focused on sheltering her own investments. Have you noticed. She hasn't even bothered to make a case georgia for while you should keep her in that seat. And that's because she has no case to make democrat. Jon ossoff said this today about his republican opponent. Detail purdue david purdue opposed direct stimulus for the people all year long last week. David purdue changed his tune. Well guess what. There's an election coming georgia. You deserve senators. Who have your back. Not just when they're about to face the people but at all times the voter turnout efforts. That led to joe biden's victory in georgia started years ago with the organization. Fair fight action the ceo of that group. Lauren grow wargo. Who was stacey. Abrams campaign manager. In her governor's race will join us. Next here's president. Elect joe biden on the final day of campaigning. Today in georgia at the end of a campaign for control of the united states senate. Unlike any we've ever seen the power. The power is learning at your hands. Unlike any time in my career one st one st can chart the course not just for the next four years for the next generation. Why lactate john and irreverent. You can make an immediate difference in your own lives the lives of people all across this country because they're election we'll put an end to the block in washington up joining us. Now is lauren grow borgo. Ceo of fair fight action. She managed stacey. Abrams two thousand eighteen campaign for georgia governor. Lauren what are you going to be watching a tomorrow night in the returns. And what do we know already in. What has happened in early voting. Thanks for having me lawrence so look. Democrats have incredible advantage at this moment. But republicans are planning on turning out tomorrow through all the information and all of the conspiracy paddling that their party's been up to their voters have been a little bit dubious about voting by mail in voting early and so they are very much planning on voting tomorrow. So we're encouraging georgians to make their plan to vote at vote dot com if they didn't get their absentee ballot. If it got damaged in a coffee got spilt on. They can go vote in person. Cancel that ballot and just it's just been a remarkable twenty four forty eight hours as i've been listening to your guests and at the same time i team has live texting updates from this horror show of a trump rally that just wrapped up lords during your show in north georgia and the thing that struck me about that. No mention of corona virus. He's literally in a state where we have two of our fourteen health regions over one hundred percent. Icu capacity right now. Tonight in georgia in two regions of our state. The issues are still full. They've got beds in hallways and in the patient lobbies. I mean this is a painful epa crisis and that's why you're seen young voters progressive voters black voters brown voters all kinds of folks. Turn out in this run out at historic levels because they need help. And you've got one party. That's not even acknowledging the pain and the need and the fear that georgians are experiencing right now and all they're doing is throwing this whole just kitchen sink of voter suppression at our state and domestic terrorism to go along with it. And then you contrast with the vice-president president-elect coming to georgia along with warren arkansas talking about people and their own hopes dreams and fears. It's just the contrast couldn't be more stark sitting here in in winter in atlanta. It's just unbelievable. And i think this is why we have a real shot to make history tomorrow so nobody should think this is in the bag. Georgia's make your plan to vote. This is serious. We can do this but this is going to be a tough fight tomorrow. And so we're gonna be watching everything. We're making sure that if there's a last minute poll closure due to cova there's been some covert staffing issues. There's ban all kinds of challenges around the state related to voting and poll worker issues. So we'll be making sure voters get the information. They were focused on. Lawrence were focused on voters. Being able to have their voice heard and we've been advocating to make sure they stay on the rolls through these crazy voter suppression challenges. We've been advocating for them to have good information in an environment of incredible information. And that's what we're up to. We're up to that or making sure. Poll workers in elections officials are protected in this domestic terrorism environment. They're living through We're focused on the people lawrence. We're making sure that their voices are heard when you're watching the returns come in tomorrow night. Is there a county Or a couple of counties that will tell you how well the republicans are going to do or how well the democrats are gonna do. Well we'll certainly be looking at all of our counties georgia we have one hundred fifty nine counties and then you need to know about georgia for the national audience. Is that sure. There are republican leaning counties and democratic leaning counties but even in our very deep brad for example north georgia counties where president trump was tonight. We've got democrats in those counties so we'll be looking in both small medium and large counties no matter their overall partisanship. We're going to be looking for the vote. Numbers of democratic leaning groups in those rural counties as well as throughout south georgia where there are lots of micro politics african american towns and diversity of communities in south georgia and then really racially ethnically diverse communities in metro atlanta. So there's not one county. This is not like my home state of ohio. Where you know you could look at chillicothe the and see the future. We have such diversity across our state. And so i'll be looking at a couple of things. I'll be looking at south. Southwest georgia Down in albany and in that whole region of the state that's a really important areas savanna were vp elect. Harris was in that region along. The coast is critically important. In an obviously metro atlanta will be keeping a close eye on. We have slammed up against the clock alarm grow. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. That is tonight's last word. Hi it's msnbc's haze brown these days. There's just so much news to wrap your head around. It's challenging to get a deeper understanding of thanks to every morning go beyond the headlines with msnbc daily it features britain perspectives from people. You know and trust including tremaine. Lee mehdi hassan list plank and frank cheap. They'll take you inside the most important issues of our times issues like stick racism domestic terrorism. 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S10 EP78: Hour 3

"Hello and welcome in his eric. Erickson here delighted to have you with me across the nation. The phone number. If you'd like to be a part of this program. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I am going to have something out on at least two phonics record here shortly. just understand. This isn't about liz. Cheney this is now about at least a phonic y is the gop advocating for her to be in leadership as a replacement to cheney. Surely they can find someone who didn't oppose the president's signature initiatives that. Let me just review this for you. I'm gonna have this out here shortly if you go to my subject age If you text dated three three seven seven seven you'll get the link. I'll have it there shortly. Free to see. I'll make available. Everyone at least two phonic is initially. The president. trump is now supporting her to replace liz. cheney. I don't know that president trump understands the problem here. Phonic is a deeply problematic person to replace liz cheney because though the party has soured on liz cheney she is ultimately far more conservative than least phonic phonic has been on the wrong side of every major trump administration initiative. She voted against president. Trump's tax cuts and jobs act of two thousand seventeen the signature piece of economic legislation. That fired up the economy. She cosponsored a pathway. For dreamers and amnesty called the usa act. She not only voted against funding president. Trump's border wall she voted to terminate his emergency declaration to fund the border wall and override his funding of the border wall. In fact she voted six times to fund the government without money for the border wall. But it's not just taxes and the border wall. She opposed president trump's lawsuit to fight obamacare. She voted override. President trump's ban on transgender troops voted for the far left. Equality act that punishes faith-based organizations she voted for the radical climate action. Now act that would cripple the economy and force us back into the paris climate accord. She voted to ban drilling in the gulf of mexico. She voted override. President trump's veto the national defense authorization act in late twenty twenty. She even voted with democrats against a republican. Measure opposing the district of columbia's abortion law. Why would you put this person in leadership. Why is kevin mccarthy supporting her. Why did he convince. Donald trump to support her. What the heck is going on. This is this is not a good thing. Let's go to the phones on this particular issue. Kelly in flagstaff arizona. You're going to be up next. Welcome hello how are you today. Good how are you. I'm doing good You were talking about liz. Cheney and stuff there in and i see a problem with with politics in general is right now we gotta have a woman for that position. And i think that's why stefanik name keeps popping up and and uh this chaney you know he's really not from wyoming. She was born there. But i don't know i was to change dynasty. I mean it's the name cheney And look i know. I know her parents have moved back to wyoming but now she's got a home. There's well the raising their kids there but yeah she was. She had kind of grew up in washington with her dad's career right and i don't think she understands that the republican party that her dad isn't the same republican party today and she's in trouble as far as stupid blahnik goes she cheat. She's i don't know if she's a new york city republican and i don't know if you can trust them here look if people say liz. Cheney is not connected to the to the trump republican party at least two phonic clearly is not connected to the trump republican party. I mean she voted against every single. One of his major initiatives. What can you get her on your show and ask her about these things. How she's going to explain herself out of that. Not a bad idea. I it so i'm gonna flag the stuff as well. Make sure tucker. Carlson sees it because that would be an interesting thing for for him to wait. Into giving his chris's of kevin mccarthy. I bet he has no idea Listen i thank you very much for your phone call. How how is flagstaff. My family's been dying to get back out there. We went to sedona. I guess two years ago when we actually went up to flagstaff on the way to the grand canyon and hung out there. Just because it's dark. At night i can see the stars and they could see the milky way. You can Are dark city. I guess this with close to you guys for people don't know i'm fascinated by this. You guys in flagstaff. Actually your city council with through and changed out all the lights on the streets so that they don't reflect up into the sky so people can actually look up and see the stars at night. I was fascinated by that. Yeah there's a williamson observatory here. But the light is got so bright anyway. Whether they've done that the actually you can go to the observatory and see things that night but they actually moved the main telescope way out in onto a mountain somewhere. Get away from the light. So but yeah it's It's kind of an interesting deal. You can't see the stars at night just i was. I was amazed. Never been out there. I'd never been arizona until we went out there. And all the way to the grand canyon. And i actually thought the sedona to flagstaff. Area was prettier than the grand canyon. Which you're not supposed to say it makes people mad. Well it's pretty nice. it's really enjoy. It is well listen. Thank you very much for the phone call. I have a great weekend. I i'm for those of you. Flagstaff is up. The the elevation provide steph is very high. You don't think of arizona. I think it'd been that high But it is and they. They changed up the street lights in the last two years because flagstaff is certified as a dark sky city. Meaning that at night you could see the milky way unaided because it's so bright and the the the noise pollution light pollution was drowning out the stars. They've got big observatory there as he said and they swapped out all the light bulbs made them so that their i forget exactly what type of liable they are but they're the you know the red halogen style bulbs that that caused the red glow at night. They got rid of all that stuff. So you can go to flagstaff. Arizona and you can look up and see the stars in a way. You can't where i am making a. Most people are downtown even in towns. You can't so. I love taking my telescope out at night. This is so far off every topic but he called for black door about this room i can. I can take my telescope out at night in my backyard. And i can see pretty good. I put pictures up occasionally have done in a while. i need to get back to. The trees have grown so high in the last few years where we ll. It's hard to get out there and ceased up. But i love to go out at night and look at the when i was a kid. I grew up in dubai and we would go camping in the desert for the scalp for my dad. And i would. You'd get out into the into. The wadis of the middle east will away from the city lights of dubai and abu dhabi. And you could see everything particularly if you went in the moon was shining. You could see everything. It was amazing and you you said other night. You can watch this why i like to go to hilton head by the way because it's on the beach tends to get dark and you can sit there. I sit in the hot tub at midnight and watch stars out over the ocean. Ed just i love to watch the stars at night. it's what. I did a kid and in urban areas. Less and less can you do that. I'll never forget taking a friend of mine with me to hilton head and we went out on the beach. The moon was not shining and he had never seen anything like it. And it's just it's one of those things. I don't know that you can appreciate it. Because you don't quite understand you live in an era. I can see the stars like. I'm in macon georgia. I can stand in my cold jacket. I can see the stars in as a completely different thing when you go to sedona and flagstaff arizona. It's different from hilton because it's so much darker because they've done such a good job getting rid of the city lights so that you can look up at night and you can see all of god's creation it is just staggering to look up and see that it's just it's a treat to be able to take your kids far out. West were a lot of city lights and take him outside at night in say. See that big band right there. That's the milky way and it's incredible are eight. We should move on. Because i didn't intend to dwell on that. The president of the united states is i mean. I don't believe that biden is not in control. I reject the premise. That joe biden is not in control in large part. Because the stereotype of joe biden. Is he's kind of. He's a grumpy. Old grandad who falls asleep occasionally. He moves very slow in his thoughts. Clearly this guy's not up to it. But i mean you saw him at the at the joint address to congress. You save at his press conferences. He is all he does. Wear down. But i don't think he's not in control. I do think however that biden's staffing is further left than he is and they do steer him more because he is he is. He makes the final call. It's kind of like the the you know the left had this idea about donald trump that he wasn't in charge all these other people around him and actually every single person i know from the president himself to the vice president to his staffers. Very adamant that yes. Donald trump made the final call on a host of things and one of the internal staff. Battles was constantly people ignoring him and his authority because they didn't want to do what he wanted to do. That he would force the issue. Very famously moving. The embassy from tel aviv to the president gave them no choice and made them do it and it was his call. And i don't want to do to biden with the left did to donald trump. i. Don i don't think that was right. I don't think this is right. But i do think there's a level of staff involvement with biden and they have helped push him left and they have convinced him. It's where he's going to make the most difference and it's where they've convinced him. He's going to rally the democratic party because they think there are more woke and progressives in there are conservatives and they don't really need the conservatives who still inhabit the democratic party and that's going to have fundamental problem. But i just thought it was very interesting. He issued a proclamation the seventieth annual national day of prayer and decided to talk about climate change and not actually talk about god throughout our history. Americans of many religions and belief systems have turned to prayer for strength tobin guidance prayer has nourished countless souls and powered moral movements in colluding central fights against racial injustice child labor in the infringement of the rights of disabled americans prayer is also a daily practice for many whether it is to ask for help or streets or to give. Thanks over blessings bestowed today we remember and celebrate the role that the healing balm of prayer can play in our lives in the life of our nation as we continue to confront the crises and challenges of our time from a deadly pandemic to the loss of lives and livelihoods in its wake to erect on racial justice to the existential threat of climate change. Americans of faith can call upon the power of prayer to provide hope an uplift us for the work ahead as the late congressman. John lewis once said nothing can stop the power of a committed and determined people to make a difference in our society why because human beans of the most dynamic link to the divine on this planet. There is no reference to the creator to god to idi of that is just somehow prayer fuels. Some level of even barack obama mentioned god. Donald trump mentioned god. eleven times. Barack obama mentioned him twice but he's still mentioned him it striking on this. This is barack obama on this day. May our phases enable us to sow the seeds of progress in our ever changing world. Let us resolve to guide our children and grandchildren to embrace them. For all to see god and everyone and to remember that no matter what differences they may have they just like us will always be united by their common humanity And and he also asked people of faith pray. For god's continued guidance mercy and protection you know prayer in and of itself dutton. Do jack prayer does nothing. If there's no one on the other side to listen maybe you should mention the one who's listening. Welcome back at eric erickson here. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Let's go to the phones. Bill calling from woodstock georgia welcome. Hey eric it's been a while since we talk Love the show. I ventured back into church for the first time since march of twenty twenty. Now i did go to the easter service which was outside but when i got back into my traditional service and they started playing the old hymns from the church. I grew up in a child. It put me to tears because it made me realize this is where i need to focus and the people stayed at home and listening to great radio shows like yours. We are substituting unfortunately politics for religion. And we're becoming just like the woke who don't have hope and a future and they want all here on earth and So anyway getting back to church has helped me put into perspective the of happenings of this administration the potential wars and got to tell you if you can get back to church do it. I would encourage it. Because i would lowering idiot. I remember the him. We were singing but well you know i gotta i gotta confess it is. It is hard to get back in the habit in in we as a family are struggling. It's kind of funny. My fifteen year old has been. She hasn't really been engaged with church. And the way. I in church group and stuff before covid. We never pushed her. And the reason we didn't push your is. I felt an offensive. My mom's listening. But i really felt like my parents push me so hard that i just kind of rebelled and i didn't want anything to do with it when i was a kid. I was a married man before. I wanted to go to sunday. School and my kids didn't wanna push him. Because i didn't want to turn them to rebel and turn off to and even my daughter last week last sunday because we didn't go because we had people in the house were sick and she's like i'm i think i'm ready to go back to church and i'm like yeah i am too i. I hate with my schedule right. Now that i'm working as much as i am. I wanna sleep in on saturday and sunday. I don't wanna do it but at the same time my soul is just i. I'm i'm out of sorts. That i know that i need to get back into church i had to. I had to make an appointment to do. And then there were thousands of reasons of why i decided. I don't want to go and my wife said you made an appointment. You go and i'm really glad i did this weekend. I'm not because i'm gonna spend the weekend on the river in the mountains. they're man you know what i've got this i i. I feel a lot of guilt. These days that i don't spend enough time with my family and so i've had a number of people invite me to go fly fishing because i've done it once now. I've got the gear. I bought myself from rods. I wanna go up to the mountains. I got a buddy whose family has a farm up of the chattahoochee right outside. Helen and i just keep feeling like i can't. I can't leave my family. Because i'm working so much and i'm dying at the same time to go and the amount of guilt i have right now just piled on top of me for. We haven't been to church. I want to spend time with my family. But i really want to go do this. And they can't come with me. And i've just i'm having a hard time. Sort it all out my head anything last time you went you don't okay. So yes and no. I caught a very big Trout and it snapped the line. And that was as close as i got one because my very first time fishing so we were up on the chattahoochee right outside. Helen not two miles from downtown helen. And i'm in the river. And by the way i gotta say deter i've figured out why old people like fly-fishing that cold water made my bones and joints feel better than anything in a long time standing up there and there's a there's a family that has a fish feeder that automatically sprays and so the fisher always in that location in. Gosh i got one. I was with my buddy david. Who's a. I won't call him a professional but he's a he's a brilliant photographer. Does a lot of work for kabila basketball. Doing their fly fishing shooting and so he's the one who pushed me to go gave me no choice. Told me going so. I went and we were pulling this thing up. And my gosh the line snaps and it was a big one and yeah exactly. All i've got is a fish story now and my wife like you're the lion tight even my buddy is like no. It was actually really big and it was my fault. That line snapped at least. He's blaming himself for my lines. Napping i'm praying for you by name and night when i'm sitting. I'm sitting by the river with some and a cigar. I'll be thinking about you. Well look great job. Thank you i really do appreciate it bill. Thanks for the kind words. Have a great weekend and really it almost makes me. I'd need so you know. Clarkesville georgia i. We're on wchs. Georgia and i had never been to northeast georgia until we got the station. Up there in halberstam. County in that area decided. I need to go up there and see this place. And they invited me up to a chamber of commerce event In downtown clarksville and that area. I've been up there now. There into late burton. And it is just god's country it is beautiful in that part of the state and i just i would love to find a cabin either on lake burton or probably can't afford that are just right on a regular somewhere go up there and fly fish man. It would be fantastic. I really have enjoyed it. It's not relaxing at all. It's fishing but it's fun. I liked that. It is eric erickson. Here welcome back the full number if you wanna be part of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. It is done and you can get it. Listen you need to see this i i. I am a big believer. That i shouldn't tell you what to think i should give you the facts and let you make up your mind. I want you to see this for yourself. I have put in all of the relevant links to all the votes. So you can see that. I'm not making it up. If you text data to three three seven seven seven you will get at least if onyx voting record. I have just written about it. You my sub stack newsletter. I will send you the link back. If you text the word data to three three seven seven seven you can see her voting record. Elise stefanik voted repeatedly against the president's signature initiatives. At least phonic voted against the president. Time and time again. She voted against his tax cuts. She voted against his emergency declaration. She voted against time and time again. She voted against the president. Why would we put her in a leadership position. Text the word data to three three seven. Seven seven c her votes. You can follow the links yourself. I'm not telling you what to think. I'm providing new facts. I providing you information if you text the word data to three three seven seven you'll also get my linked to critical theory. What is critical theory. How does critical theory work How how does the left talk about it. it is actually increase. It's just crazy. What her voting record is in little. Listen by let me just say this. Because she's a very nice person she is personally but a very nice person personally can be liberal or moderate. It doesn't mean that they are fit for leadership. She voted six times to fund the government without funding the border wall. She voted to oppose the presidents funding. The border wall she voted to rescind the president's declaration of an emergency to fund the border wall. She voted to override the president's use of defense funds to fund the border wall. She voted for the dreamer. She voted for amnesty. She voted for agricultural amnesty. She voted against conservative immigration reform. She voted with the democrats to force forces back into the paris accord. She voted with the democrats on the equality. Act time and time again. At least two phonic has voted against president trump. why would republicans put her in leadership. Why would they do that. Why would they sell. Donald trump on this this sounds like it is the republican elites swindling donald trump. He's in florida not surrounded by his white house. Staff doesn't have her voting record handy. A kevin mccarthy goes down there and sweet talks donald trump into supporting elise stefanik who turns out to be further left. Liz cheney this is the singular irony of this whole situation liz. Cheney voted for donald trump's agenda more than phonic and somehow the republican leaders in the house have swindled donald trump into convincing him. he should supports devante over jamie. Listen cheney's go cheney's out next week. She's going be booted out. Why would you replace her with someone. Who's more liberal. Why would you replace her with someone who doesn't have the prism spec. Why would you replace your with someone who is less likely to vote for donald trump than la's cheney i have no earthly idea. Text the word data to three three seven seven seven. See it for yourself. See the data for yourself. You don't have to believe me you don't have to take my word for it. I have included all the votes. You can click the links and see the votes for yourself now. We need to move on. I don't know if you know this or not. But the whisper campaigns have started about rhonda. Santa's this is just kinda silly rhonda. Santa this is looking ahead to re election next year and quite possibly at twenty two thousand four bid for president according to politico's playbook which has become increasingly leftist from politico. We talked to a dozen or so one time. Aides and consultants to the florida governor and they all said the same thing disentis treats staff like double digits. He largely relies on a brain trust of to himself his wife casey to santa's day former local tv journalists beyond that there are few if any santa's people as far as political pros are concerned yes to santa's recently hired highly regarded operative phil cox. But there's no savant that he's been through the trenches with like a karl rove or david axelrod let alone an army of loyalists. That's probably not fatal to his white house prospects but it can't help here. A few key nuggets a support group of former desanta. Staffers meets regularly to trade war stories about their hardship working for the governor the turnover in his office and among his campaign advisers as well known among republicans in three of his five full years in congress he raked it rate in at least the seventeen th percentile in terms of highest turnover at a house office. In the governor's office. He has had only two staffers who started with him when he was a junior member of congress within six months of taking office as governor in two thousand nineteen disentis fired five. Staffers one was a twenty-three-year-old scheduler who'd been with him since the beginning of the gubernatorial race shortly after she was sent packing an unnamed member of the sentences administration was quoted in a florida blog. Trashing performance a month later. His deputy chief of staff left prompting florida reporters to press him about the rapid turn of his operation. Another story related by five. Former staffers at the beginning of his administration to santa's directed the florida. Gop leader to fire a party officer. Who had cancer on that person's first week back from surgery to santa's often blames staffers old blunders after santa's on fox news in two thousand eighteen and implored florida voters not to monkey this up by supported an african american democratic opponent for governor. He and his wife out his campaign staff or not cleaning up the mess and then he brought in a whole new group of advisers. Aides would lure to santa's to staff meetings with cupcakes. Say it was a colleague's birthday to get him to attend in the gubernatorial primary to santa's visit his campaign headquarters just a couple of times on election night. He entered the war room after his witted remark. Wow i didn't know this. Many people worked for me. Whoop de freakin. Do let me tell you what is going on. Disentis is finally starting to see. Republican whisper campaigns against him. They know he's going to win his reelection bid. They know he's going to win. They know he's going to run and twenty twenty four. Let me tell you what. I've been told by multiple people the president donald trump continues to talk about twenty twenty four because it gives him power in twenty twenty two to settle scores. He wants to beat lewis. Cheney in wyoming. He wants to beat. Brian kip in georgia and brad raffles burger georgia. He's got a number of people who with scores to settle if he says he's not running in twenty twenty four. His cloud as leader of the party begins to diminish through two thousand twenty two as long as he keeps up the facade of running in twenty twenty four. he's the most powerful man in the republican party but behind the scenes. There is growing doubt that the president wants to run again in twenty twenty four. He'll be joe biden's age. The left is still coming to sue him constantly. There are people. Maybe he's just not gonna want to run in twenty twenty four and they know that if he lays hands onto santa's as the guy to santa's is going to be unstoppable so they're trying to roughing up at this moment before his twenty twenty two campaign knowing he's gonna win in two thousand twenty two but if it's closer than it could be. They can begin to sow doubts about the scientists in two thousand twenty four. There are a lot of staffers to santa's his hired fired or never hired at all. And by the way some of this is true to santa's apparently Is a very tough person to work for. That doesn't mean he's a bad person doesn't mean he's a terrible Governor in fact is results. Speak for himself. it means he's he's Makes strong demands high demands. He can be difficult to work for. A lot of people in politics are and those people he hired and fired or never hired at all are starting to align with other people. They're starting to align with other candidates they're starting to ally with other potential twenty twenty four prospects and they're whispering about fantas now. I told you guys a couple of weeks ago that i would start believing the hits onto santa's when they came from the gop. Well they're starting to come from the gop. Why are they starting to come from the gop. I know the answer. There's been some private polling done. Disentis will be the nominee in twenty twenty four. If they can't start reading him in now in fact there are some close to the president who believe they themselves need to whisper about santa's less to santa's get off that he may challenge donald trump for the nomination and twenty twenty four if trump wins or it runs but more so than that. There are a whole lot of republican candidates who want to run who see santa's already beginning to lock up the twenty twenty four republican donors. They need to stop that now so that they can have the money to run against even twenty twenty four and the best way to do that is to begin the slow walk of roughing up the whispers now of staffers become on the record conversations later become fodder for the press become fodder for campaign ads. They are desperate to stop to scientists and right now the way they're going about it is he's a difficult person to work for. Do do any of you care. The governor florida reopened a state. The governor of florida got things gone through the governor of florida. Got things reopen. The governor florida's simulated their economy. The governor for two got people back into schools. The governor florida has built interracial allegiances in florida and alliances in florida. The governor of florida has advanced where other governors have not. There's only one other governor in the nation whose economies outperforming florida right now. That's the governor of georgia who open before the scientists did before it was fired up to go. People are noticing the latest election polling for santa's a year away and it is polling so we don't know those accurate but he's got a bipartisan support. Even democrats are supporting him. Democrats really don't like charlie crist. he was. He was a useful opportunists for them. Would it came to that congressional district but otherwise the democrats. There's no love lost their between four. To democrat charlie crist he had been there republican nemesis for awhile and on and on goes so the republicans who want to run in two thousand hundred they gotta stop the santa's now and they begin with the whispers. The whispers will go to more news and the media will love it because they hate the santa's why because he thus far has positioned himself pretty strategically as the one person who can unite the non trump and trump wings of the gop. Hi there it's eric erickson here. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I wanna wish all the moms in the audience all the birthing people all the mothers happy. Mother's day i. You know my wife is a is a real hero to me. And we're fortunate. She can stay home with the kids and build memories with the kids given her health. And i feel like i'm a sometimes just a terrible husband Lately i i really have just because i've been so so overwhelmed with work and i'm i'm glad the light is at the end of the tunnel for these last couple of months. They've been a distraction. I feel like i've been off my game With my family and stuff. But it's just it's remarkable to me to see my wife in action with our kids and billy memories and helping them and so i i just moms are amazing. My wife is amazing My my my wife has a harley. She got a package yesterday from a company from wisconsin. The company's name is is Go fast don't arrived fast. 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I'm i'm still flabbergasted by this many of you don't believe me. I'm getting e mails still about this. I'm gonna play this montage one more time and it's not. This isn't intended to be filler. This as you really this blew my mind. It is an actual congressional hearing and these are the democrats you know nancy. Pelosi said she wanted to d- gender the language of the house of representatives. And so it's now instead of talking about mothers birthing people. The democrats are talking about as a mother's day weekend led us. We commit our efforts in support to ensure that every birthing person austen's nation is empowered feels state we have not created infrastructure to support birthing people president and birthing people deserve to be treated with low birth while black should not be death senate health equity for blackburn people attainable. Muggers in baby's in black birth and people are important. We desperately need long term fixes to support the healthcare needs of black women and birth people the most marginalized black and indigenous birthing people to systemically shift the way we approach healthcare for birthing people of color and respectful of black women birth jeep all the maternal mortality crisis among black birthing people in the united states black birthing people and birth people for birthing people black birding people in a black birthing person for all persons and louisiana fed. Birthing people want dulas amid wise for birthing people. During the post artem theory there are not enough black workers of color leaving blackburn people with limited autonomy or opportunity to receive racially concordant. Here protect black birthing people and to save lives. thank you and you'll bad bursting. People black birthing people each. It's like it's your job. Hey mom did you know your job was to be a birthing person so disrespectful. It's just disrespectful. It's like latino latina cces. A it drives with kleenex. It's a it's disrespectful term. Because no one in the latino community uses it. spanish makes the word impossible in the hispanic. There's just there is not a word like that Most of the world's romance languages use male and female nouns. The the i mean you. It la la in in french. That's the one. I grew up speaking law in la. Laws is the female. Lose the male Why they do this. I don't know of the historic In analogy for using using male and female nouns. But they do in spanish do as well. The italians do A lot of the romance like derive from latin do this and it makes zero sense to disrespect someone's culture by trying to negate the gender. It makes it's disrespectful to mothers to call them birthing people because you wanna pedal a mythology that a man can give birth administrate. Which is what they want to do this. This is their claim now and it's just not true. It is simply not true. It is not true and yet it's what they push. And i do think that this stuff matters if you're progressively you're listening to right. Now why are you harping on this. This stuff is what wins. Republicans elections whether you want to believe it or not because there are a whole lot of people who don't think either side released that much different economic matters but on this stuff there's a massive difference and it helps republicans with hispanic voters and black voters and so many more just a disgusting term birthing person and it's what the democrats have decided to embrace. It will be a cultural issue that works against them.

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The wind chill meadow show weeknights at nine eastern on. Msnbc thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Rachel's got the night off and we've got a lot to get to including the news that republicans have decided to put one last speed bump in the road. To joe biden's inauguration as the next president. That's one coming from republican. Presidential candidate in waiting senator josh hawley of missouri. We are going to be speaking with. Senator cory booker about this new gambit in just a few moments but we want to start tonight with an important story that starts with just a guy on a bus in march of nineteen forty seven a forty-seven-year-old businessmen took this bus route from mexico city to new york. He was actually on his way to main but he was feeling sick so he got off the bus and checked himself into a new york city hotel. He died in new york city hospital about a week later it would take a while until doctors knew for sure but the businessman had died of smallpox and by the time they figured it out it was too late. The virus was out one by one people sick with high fevers and strange rashes started turning up at new york city hospitals. Smallpox is a devastating disease about thirty percent of the people who contract. Smallpox will die for the ones who survive. They are often left with permanent scars. Some go blind and it spreads like wildfire. It's a highly contagious. Highly communicable illness but by nineteen forty seven. There was already a vaccine for smallpox. So intellectual elite solution was pretty simple. Vaccinate the public and stop the disease from spreading logistically. That's the public health nightmare scenario because for that strategy to work get shots into millions of arms and fast you have to outrun the spread of the virus before the virus out runs you so when those first cases of smallpox started popping up in new york city. The city's health commissioner new that he had to convince millions of people not only to get the vaccine but to get it now at the time the best way to talk to an entire city all at once was the radio. The new york city health commissioner at the time was a bacteriologist named israel weinstein. The new york times wrote a fascinating history of that smallpox outbreak in new york. Nineteen forty seven and highlighted those public. Please the doctor weinstein gave on the radio. Listen we cannot guarantee that there have not been other because not repeat of smallpox or for that matter of any disease represents the classic textbook picture they vary in degree now. There very well may have been certain mile. Tc that have gone above and have not been diagnosed. The carry out the person who carries the organism on these on these bodies for the person who has a mild disease who is the dean gris rough and remember that the person who has mild attack can give it to one who is unprotected and that person get in all its severity gamble with your hip and with your life. You are very rule har there is a danger as long as people in the cities are unpredictable for your own safety and for that your family and friends please don't take child vaccinated. Gentlemen you've been listening to a special address by dr israel weinstein health commissioner of the city of new york vaccination against smallpox vaccination is the shore preventative against smallpox. Might sound quaint now. But those radio addresses were key ingredient in one of the most successful vaccine rollouts in american history possibly in global history other doctor weinstein's leadership the city setup mass vaccination sites where people to line up and look at these pictures and get their free smallpox vaccine people. Listen to the good doctor on the radio and they lined up in droves outside hospitals outside police stations outside public clinics to get their vaccine can imagine people being that close these days but they sent vaccine teams to every public school in the city. They even said doctors into nightclubs and to the circus to make sure the circus performers got their vaccines to this is from the time. The response was so great that the city enlisted thousands of civilian volunteers to help deliver inoculations armed with vials of vaccine the volunteers along with professional healthcare providers administered as many as eight doses per minute and the first two weeks. Five million new yorkers were vaccinated against smallpox five million doses in fourteen days in nineteen forty seven the smallpox vaccine rollout in new york in one thousand nine forty seven is one of the most rapid efficient organized vaccination initiatives. This country has ever seen at one point a half. A million doses were administered in new york city. In a single day new york smallpox outbreak could have been one of the worst public health disasters in living memory instead. It ended ten weeks later with twelve infections. Two deaths and more than six million shots in people's arms. Today's world of course there's a lot more complicated than the one of nineteen forty seven and rolling out a vaccine to one city is a lot different from rolling it out to the entire world but when you strip it down. That's the playbook to follow when you cam to mass deliver a vaccine. It's not just about developing the secret sauce. Incite violence about building an infrastructure to deliver it quickly into people's arms trained. Volunteers built vaccination centres vaccinate. The circus that's not the playbook federal government is running to deliver the covid vaccine to the american people in an efficient or way. Let's look at florida. This is not a line outside a mall on black friday. This is a vaccine line in lee county florida senior citizens camping out overnight at a rec center. Parking lot to receive the vaccine. Republican governor florida against cdc recommendations to give frontline workers. The vaccine. i instead moved florida's seniors to the top of the line but that seems to be where the planning stopped at some vaccine sites around florida shots are simply being offered on a first come first serve basis. That's why the most vulnerable floridians are sleeping in a parking lot for their chance to get a dose of vaccine in lee county yesterday. The three vaccination sites reached full capacity by seven. Am the sheriff. Had to send out a traffic alert because the waiting cars were clogging up the roads in other parts of the state. Vaccines are available by appointment if you can get one. Usa today report. That people in miami spent hours getting busy signals to make an appointment. Here's how it's going. Texas health officials raising alarms today that the state has more vaccine than they. Currently get into people's arms saying that quote unnecessary delays are causing a quote significant portion of the of the precious vaccine to sit untouched. One clinic at arizona. Says they have too many shots because they don't have enough employees willing to take the vaccines that are sitting on used on their shelves. Nbc news tried to track down. Just how many unused doses might be sitting around throughout the country of the roughly twelve million doses that have been shipped to healthcare providers. Just over two million have been administered that rate it would take ten years to vaccinate enough of the country to return immunity. Tomorrow is the last day of the year just today. We said a new record. The most covid nineteen deaths in a single day by a lot and still we are nowhere near where we thought. We would be in terms of rolling out this vaccine. The trump administration promised it would vaccinate million people by year's end by tomorrow. Instead we've reached about a tenth of that goal. the disorganized nature of this rollout. So far will not make it go faster especially because the federal government appears to have done none of the advance work necessary to make this go smoothly. This is not a nine hundred forty seven style. Roll out there are no volunteer armies of vaccinators. There are no federal vaccination centres. There are senior citizen sleeping in parking lots and untouched vaccine sitting on shelves at a critical time in the pandemic. There were concerns that we would not have enough vaccine early on to make a dent in new infections but we can't even deliver the few doses that we have some of them. We are literally throwing away today. The governor of california said that the new variant of the virus. That was i found in the united kingdom has now been found in california to buy this variant does not believe to be more fatal than the original strain. But it is much more contagious. That means more people could catch kovin more people will need hospitalization and many more people will die unless of course they received the vaccine in an organized timely way colorado was the first part of the country to identify the strain that circulating through its community the democratic governor of colorado jared police announced today that colorado is over the age of seventy as well as teachers and grocery workers can expect to receive the vaccine next week. There's no time like the present joining me now. Jared police governor of colorado governor to see you. Thank you for your time this evening. Let me ask you about this new variant. It was a national guard. Member tested positive for the new variant. I one in the country. Apparently this person has not traveled so it's literally impossible that they're the first case of the new variant in the united states. They're just the first case that we've been able to identify what's your sense. Was there something about your testing system that made this the first state to spot the variant. While i'm proud of our colorado scientists in our state lab. And i think i speak on behalf of all the governors as well as every american in expressing gratitude for the role of the national guards. Play they've man testing facilities. they've helped staff nursing. Homes are doing an amazing job. I'll look. I don't think anybody knows exactly god here. I think when we found the first case of the variant yesterday we knew that it was already here. I think it's every probably every state even more in states that have more travels to the united kingdom on the east coast. But we were just the first ones discovered here We don't think it's wildly prevalent yet or we would have seen an uptick in cases if in fact is more contagious but we have found it and we're following the chain of contagion to see where else it might be in our state and i know other states are as well. Governor talked to me about the this vaccine distribution situation that we seem to be facing. I've heard every excuse in the book in the last week about why we haven't got more shots in arms. Somebody saying it's the governors who get it at the states that distributed others are saying there isn't enough demand. What's the situation in colorado as you understand it. Are you matching the vaccines that you have to people who need it. I'm proud that we're in the top five states in terms of getting a percentage of vaccinations that we've used vaccinated over one and a half percent of the entire population of our state. Today we open it up to people seventy and up. Once those frontline workers world health healthcare wards nurses doctors and orderlies are taking care of mostly our in our state most areas were moving on to some of the other groups it's a matter of scheduling some of the vocational related groups teachers and others likely in in february getting that scheduled with units. But in the meantime we want to our orders in colorado us every dose within seventy two hours. We're working with a hospital or doctor community health clinic. The doesn't use it in seventy two hours. We'll take it back and give it to somebody who will use it so in a lot of places like florida where they've prioritized the elderly. There just weren't enough doses yet to get to be on the healthcare worker population. Where are you getting enough. Medication to start vaccinating the public as early as next week. Why would take it back from anybody. That foreseen seniors to spend nights in parking lots. Also i mean the the folks like uc health and county health departments that are giving inoculations the seniors they're scheduling their scheduling. It online. You know fifteen minutes. Fifteen minutes that people sign up they show up they get a reminder on it's unfathomable that people would be forced to especially vulnerable. Seniors will be forced to spend the night outdoor in line We would not allow any of our distribution partners to engage in that kind of activity. Do you have enough vaccine is much vaccine as you want. No of course not. We use every dose we have. We're still only at one and a half percent of the population here The we can't necessarily count on the number every week. In fact our pfizer last week was under a number of states. Notice that we hope. The federal government continues to keep the supply Reliable but really we only know what we have when we get it and we have a good sense of one week. A had very little sense of two weeks ahead governor though since weeks well that was going to ask you because in a few weeks a new administration a new president joe biden says he wants a million shots a day. One hundred million shots in the first one hundred days of his administration. What what how do we get there. What do you need from the federal government to accelerate the rate at which you are inoculating people. Frankly i'd love to see another vaccine approved. I saw united kingdom. Approved astra zeneca. But i heard it might not be improved here till april only. Get the first dose out. We would love the fda to move that up to march or february at might not be as effective as the ninety five percent. But even sixty seventy eighty percent will start giving it to young people twenties and thirties. My goodness we'd start getting it tomorrow. And then evacuated give the people in their seventies and ultimately in their sixties the visor. And the and the madonna governor. Jared police good to see you. Thank you for taking time for us tonight. Jared polis is the governor of california colorado. I'm sorry joining us. Now is dr gandhi. He's a surgeon at brigham and women's hospital in boston professor at the harvard school of public health and one of the president-elect biden's cove advisory board member so he's the guy we need to talk to dr to see you. Thank you for taking time for us tonight. I if you could help me with understanding the exponential nature of the spread of a vaccine so the idea that this vaccine might be fifty percent more infectious or contagious is much much worse than it being fifty percent more fatal about the various yes the Yes correct yuck yes. The most important thing about being more contagious is that it doesn't necessarily mean it is a more likely to cause serious illness or death and yet because it is more contagious. It will fill our hospitals faster. You'll see more people in the icu. And you'll see more people die and that we've seen that happening in the uk. We're already maxing out. Hospitals a quarter of the hospital is user filled or near full. That is a concerning situation in the to say the least we were talking to the health director of los angeles county last night. We were discussing a hospital in the in the southern california area that is essentially ration care. They've said that if somebody comes in really really sick and eight determined that lifesaving efforts to keep them alive may not work they will save those resources for someone who is more likely to live. That's not the kind of thing we're used to hearing publicly spoken in the united states hospitals have to make choices but they don't typically have to make choices about who lives in dies these kinds of crisis standards of care as they're called are not where we want to be. We need a tremendous amount of public support mask. Wearing is still that most important tool we can have and we still have significant parts of country even in any every state where you have people who still insists that. This is no more significant than the flu. We're past well over two thousand deaths a day that makes it now. The number one killer in the country bigger than heart disease bigger than cancer. You just heard governor. Police saying he would like to see this astrazeneca oxford vaccine that was approved in the united kingdom approved here in the united states earlier than april. Which is our earliest guests. What's that all about. How come some countries approved vaccines that typically are made there faster and yet we are still months away in the united states. Well some of that. For example with zeneca. The concern is that their claim about the effectiveness of the vaccine hasn't been released in the form of data that you can really examine I give credit to the fda for insisting that they half to review the data. And look at it extremely closely. They you know uncovered things in the last round with last vaccine for example finding that even one does Showed early signs of effectiveness at levels. We hadn't anticipated. I would love to see that the astrazeneca vaccine insurance out the have a ninety effectiveness like they have claimed. That data still has to be brought forward and a renewed. I would agree with the governor. It would be break to get that data early and then The fda has signaled shown that the mid eighties doctor wanted good to talk to you. Thank you for being on the show tonight. Dot tulle go on days. One president. President-elect biden's cove advisory board members and he is is a surgeon and professor at the harvard school of public health. surgeons at brigham and women's hospital in boston. Thank you for your time tonight sir. Coming up next mitch. Mcconnell pleaded with his colleagues not to do it. But one republican. Senator just couldn't help themselves. Senator cory booker joins us next to talk about. What's about to go down in the senate next week. We get support from madison. Read so many of our routine have changed this year and yes while there are plenty of old habits. I'm eager to return to getting hair. Colored at the salon isn't one of them. I've become obsessed with doing my color myself at home with madison reed. They make it so incredibly easy to get gorgeous salon-quality results in under an hour and for a fraction of the price. Everything you need sent directly to your door on your schedule and if you need a little help picking a shade. 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I talk with lower beal host of wondrous hit podcast dr death about what i've learned about the child welfare system you'll also hear the emotional moment when the two mothers at the center of the story talk for the first time nobody walking down the street. Put know what we've been through. You know because we still smile were upset and were hurt. I know i'm hurt. I feel like a lot of trust but broken. I felt like i was thanking them while they were taking my kids and looking by a like. What was i doing. Because you don't know search for do no harm wherever you're listening right now to listen to the special bonus episode and subscribe to the series earlier this month the day after the electoral college formerly voted to make joe biden the next president senate republican leader mitch. Mcconnell took to the senate floor and finally finally acknowledged for the first time that biden was the president elect. It was a full six weeks after election day. Six weeks filled with republican. Dodging questions about joe biden win twisting themselves verbal nuts and getting very philosophical about words and their meeting. What even is a president elect anyway but mitch. Mcconnell finally came around better late than never gas and with the electoral college vote done. The only thing left to do was for the house. And the senate to formally certify the results in a joint session on january the sixth next wednesday a number of house republicans have been making noise about challenging the election results. That day in a last ditch dum doomed effort to overturn biden's win either. Because of voter fraud or venezuelan voting machine gremlins or rudy giuliani or who knows what a dozen house. Republicans even met at the white house with president trump to strategize about that challenge. Also at that meeting vice president pence who will actually preside over the joint session of congress next wednesday certifying the election results but there was one other thing that merry band of coup-plotters needed a united states. Senator is the any house republican or a dozen or one hundred can object to certifying any states slate of electoral. But the objection goes nowhere. Unless at least one senator signs on and on that day just over two weeks ago when mcconnell finally uttered the dreaded fate phrase president elect joe biden. Get a phone call with his fellow. Senate republicans in which. He reportedly warned them not to do this thing. Do not sign onto any challenges. To biden's victory. Mcconnell told them as political reported quote mcconnell told his caucus that challenging the results would force republicans to take terrible vote to vote it down and appear against president. Donald trump the number two republican in the senate. John thune told reporters that any attempt to challenge the election results in the senate would quote. Go down like a shot dog and quote but it appears that mcconnell's warnings and thune disconcertingly grizzly metaphor. we're not enough to keep every member of their caucus in line. Because today senator. Josh hawley of missouri announced that he will challenge the results of at least one state on january sixth next wednesday. Holly claims that pennsylvania and other states did not follow their own election laws and that congress should investigate non-existent voter fraud and for good measure. He says social media companies interfered in the election to now to be entirely clear. This gambit is almost certainly not going to result in anything more than a delay in certifying the results on january sixth. All josh hawley can do is force a two hour debate on pennsylvania's electors or multiple to our debates on many states electors but joe biden is still going to be the next president of the united states. What senator holly may succeed in doing is opening up. A major rift among senate republicans because each senator will have to choose between voting to support trump or voting to support the results of a democratic election. Let's just be clear. That's what the votes for. It's either four democracy or it's against democracy. Josh hawley has come out very clearly against democracy. Today he's also widely expected to run for president in two thousand twenty four and clearly. He thinks he knows which way his party is headed joining us. Now senator cory booker democrat of new jersey who sits on the judiciary committee with senator. Holly senator booker. You know there was a day. There was a time when you and i used to talk about interesting policy matters but now time you're on the show it's got a what on earth is this quality to it. So what did you tell you. Know josh hawley. Judiciary with him. What on earth is this. Why can't get inside his head. But i do this. You said it clearly. And unequivocally the next president is states will be joe biden and according to the amendment and the electoral act of eighteen eighty seven. There is absolutely no way to prevent that. What unfortunately this does is. I think it's another whack at the free and fair elections in the united states perpetuating wise and deceased and conspiracy theories launched the first time in my lifetime by the president united states was not only seeking to undermine of free and fair election. But really it looks like he's seeking to war democracy and if that is compounded again and again and again by those wanting play into conspiracy theories lies and deceit. It could actually do a lot of harm took future elections and the biggest spirit that is necessary for democracies function which is faith and trust in our electoral process. Yeah and this is the thing. Josh hawley may have concerns that he thinks are valid about a congress looking into the way elections or run in this country. But that's not what this thing on on january. Sixth is about the thing on january. Six is taking the electoral college numbers. Counting them all up doing a roll call and sort of find them. That's not the place for this conversation. No local we've seen the place for the conversation. In my opinion we saw dozens and dozens of giuliani backed lawsuits. That fail time and time and we'll stay court or even supreme court we've seen trump officials appointed judges. Knock this thing down time and time again. You've seen the attorney general bar say that this was a re election other trump officials in the cybersecurity round. I've said this was a free election. No signs of interference time and time. Again trump official public and state leaders governors sector states a whole set by the president deceit and misinformation. And so to perpetuate that something. I've never seen before. I think it's damaging towards democracy and there's only advancing this conspiracy theory that people who are part of trump's trump loyalists are are taking brookline and secrets. He's many wreck the republican party. If it keeps going this way but but most of your republican colleagues. I doubt are interested in this. They are not. They do not want to see themselves in a position as mitch. Mcconnell suggested where they're going to have to vote that this stuff that you're suggesting is bonkers. We're voting to certify the election. I know one thing quite and i. I'm not a fortune teller. But i know that history is going to look back on this moment and see what we did how we conducted ourselves. Didn't we act in the best interest of our nation or did we perpetuate attempts to undo. Its most sacrosanct ideals like free and fair election. I think that history's going to look back on this moment. And see what each individual senator besides doing the reasoning and rationale. I think it will rowan coal if they play into the fraud that this president. That's not only doing since the electric member. He's been before the election. He said if i lose. I'm going to try to do everything i can. To overturn the results and play into that right now. I think you're going to the shadow of history will leave you very whole of. I want to ask you about the judiciary committee Joe biden's team. According to new post as senate democrats like yourself to send him judicial nominees sap. The last four years have been marked by a record number of judicial appointees president elect joe biden according to the article wants democratic senators recommend nominees to him who are diverse not just in terms of race or gender but professionally something clam progressives have been clamoring for for years in a letter obtained by huffpost biden's incoming white house counsel tells democratic senators to find public defenders and civil rights attorneys in their states. Who think would be a good fit for federal judge. You familiar with this. I'm definitely familiar with that. Spirit in my conversation with transition members my senior senator bob menendez. I have been working really hard on coming up with very qualified. Diverse small list of judges the judicial. Emergency really have in the state of new jersey so donald trump and mitch mcconnell has done to federal bench. And i say both of them because even before donald trump came to office mitch. Mcconnell seemed to be doing everything could slow down the of of a and even undermine the process of obama appointee aids so now we have a years now of donald trump putting one wore judges than anybody else in the modern era. Many of them were deemed unqualified. By the way they are young And many of them represent the farthest right wing sub judicial thought. So i think we need to work to balance the or as the constitution thrives biden should be doing everything he can to get federal judges appointed as quickly as possible and again. This is why georgia is so important. Because mitch mcconnell has already shown what he'll do joe biden because he did it to charge the senate. No confidence competence. These necessarily move quickly to get a biden judge. We're going to be talking about that georgia election. Which is next. Tuesday senator booker good to see you as always thank you for joining us. Happy new year. And here's to some good substantive policy discussions in two thousand twenty one. I look forward to that. Sir thank you so much all right up next. There's reason for democrats to be cautiously optimistic. Tonight it has to do with what the senator were just talking about the all important. Vote in georgia next tuesday. We'll explain when i come back. Hey it's chris hayes. This week my podcast wise is happening. I'll be talking with josh jessica about the absolutely mind. Blowing story of trump's wisconsin foxconn deal. The company did not really have a plan for what to do in wisconsin employees. I spoke to talk about being told to figure out something for foxconn. to make and wisconsin. The big push toward the end of two thousand. Eighteen is just hiring the two hundred and sixty people. They need to get subsidies. No one knows what these people are supposed to do. And by the end of the year. They're just sitting around in this nine hundred and six cs office building. Foxconn body's headquarters in milwaukee watching netflix. Six at this week on. Why is this happening search for why this happening. Wherever you're listening right now and subscribe. We are all looking forward to the end of this week when we can officially put the year twenty twenty in the rear view mirror. But if you live in the state of georgia twenty twenty doesn't end for another six days. That is when jordan georgians will go to the polls to decide which party will control the united states senate for at least the next two years. Today was the last day of early voting in fulton. county georgia's biggest county which includes most of the city of atlanta while other counties nearby like to cabin. Cobb county can still vote early tomorrow already. More than two and a half million georgians across the state have voted. That turnout is given democrats some reason to be cautiously optimistic. According to politico early voting has lagged some key republican controlled areas worrying some republican operatives. One analysis shows the democrats are on pace to turn out about eighty percent of the voters. Who came out to vote early for them in november well only about two thirds of republicans. Have come back out to vote early in this election. Have you're wondering why. Republicans are not showing up in bigger numbers. It may have something to do with the ongoing effort by president trump and his cronies to cast doubt about the results of the last election in georgia alleging widespread voter fraud despite overwhelming evidence that no such fraud exists yesterday. Georgia's secretary of state's office released results of an audit of signatures on absentee ballot. Envelopes cast in cobb county finding absolutely no instances of voter fraud that results that donald trump into yet another tantrum against top georgia republican officials. This morning trump ramped up his attacks. On georgia's republican governor calling on him to resign from office just hours earlier. Trump also tweeted a baseless and debunked conspiracy about how georgia's republican secretary of state. Brad ravensburger has a brother who secretly works for the chinese government. Like much of what. The president says. That claim is entirely untrue. But even as georgia's top republican officials become pariahs in trump land for not entertaining the president's baseless claims of fraud. Keep in mind. They have not given up on. The republican party's long-term agenda of using that baseless fraud or those baseless fraud claims to try to limit access to the polls today the president of georgia's n. Double acp publicly resigned from a bipartisan. Voting rights task force created by georgia. Republican secretary of state brad raffles burger accusing wrappings burger of supporting attempts to disenfranchise eligible. Georgia voters and calling the task. Force a farce joining us now. Reverend james woodall reverend woodall is the state. President of georgia's nwa p. reverend. Good to see you. Thank you for being with us tonight at galle for having me in good evening and happy early new year to you and to you sir. Thank you tell us about this. Because too many americans who had no idea who brad referenced burger was he almost has seemed like a bit of a hero for the last several weeks as he stood up to the attacks. Donald trump who continues to claim that the election on november. Six in georgia was fraudulent. You've got a different view of what brad ravnsborg on republicans in the state are up to well for sure in. Let's be very clear me resigning from the task force is saving by people's lives are secretary of state here has committed himself to partisan attempts to keep black and black and browns voters from being able to cast their ballot in a very safe secure necessity away when you have a secretary of state was more concerned in more committed to maintaining his political party in the power that he yields or lack thereof within that party and actually ensuring that every single eligible voter can participate in this year's election and beyond. I can't participate in bat in. I would urge to see or exactly what it is and what we're trying to do is saying people's lives this deeper partisanship. This is deeper than any candid or nba election. What we're trying to make sure that when a voter cast their ballot fatal hats some for their life. We're trying to make sure that when an election workers shows up to work in election and minister that process that they don't have to pay for the light but the secretary of state is making bet job much more difficult in fact. I would even argue that. He's responsible for his own threats because he continues to try to play the fence in played his partisan game and we need to remember because the voting situation in georgia came to public light over the last few years. Where we've realized that those things. We thought that many people in america thought were from decades past are still alive and well Resigning from the task force you wrote in an email to reference murder. I cannot in good faith. Continue to work with your office in a nonpartisan if you publicly commit to disenfranchising thousands of eligible voters on a purely partisan basis and continue to use your office as a way to push conspiracy theories that place georgia residents in harm's way your latest actions are troubling to say the least and put the work of the task force in jeopardy as the spirit in which we were convened has seemingly disappeared due to political pressure for folks. Who don't follow this closely. What's the issue at the heart of this issue. At the heart of this is the ability of the people of georgia. Both democrat republican black white or brent role to be able to show up in cast their ballots in a safe secure and assessable manner was happening right. Now is not that. In fact the spirit of that of the task force i believe is needed that we need to come together regardless of identity or affiliation in works on these issues. Because let's be clear even though that we had record turnout in this year's election and right now the runoff election has more now than we saw in the in the runoff. In two thousand eight. But we still have major work to do in our election process here but instead of working on that the secretary of state the republican party in the state of georgia. They're working to make it harder in a day and age. We're living in public health ending with no working to make it harder for georgia voters to be able to participate that's voter suppression. And so we're concerned that j v and beyond. We're going to see even more in more concerns in more egregious efforts by the republicans here in the states. Disenfranchise george voters. And we're not going to stand by because at the end of the day. We're not just fighting. Both parties or political candidates. We're fighting for lives allows our state. And so we're gonna continue to do everything in our power to protect against all of this while the good news is that the eyes of the entire country are on georgia. The in the entire world really are on georgia in the next few days and we know much more about voting in your state as a result of the attention that you and others have brought to thank you sir. Reverend james woodall into state president of georgia's n. double. Acp thank you for your time. Sir thank you sir. Happy new year to you. We've got an update to a story that's been a national outrage for more than six years coming up after the break stay stay with us update to a story that has outraged americans for more than six years now in november twenty fourteen to cleveland police officers responding to a call that quote guy was pointing a gun at people saw this twelve year. Old black boy tamir rice playing with a pellet gun one of the two officers shot tamir rice a twelve year old boy. He died the next day. Semi rice's family's been seeking justice ever since two thousand fifteen one avenue for that just as close to them when a grand jury and ohio declined to indict the officers for shooting this boy now. Another avenue is closed to them. The federal justice department put out a statement that its investigation into that killing quote found insufficient evidence to support federal criminal. Charges against the officers to me. Rice's family did receive money from settling federal civil rights lawsuit but they remain disappointed. That the officers who killed tamir rice have not been prosecuted. One of the officers was fired in two thousand seventeen though because of the killing the other officers still on the job. Six years later meanwhile nine months after twenty six year old. Briana taylor died. When three police officers shot into her louisville kentucky home several officers involved in that great are still on the job but that might change soon. The louisville metro police department aims to fire two more officers involved in the shooting. Death of brianna taylor. It both officers are fired. They will join brett hankison who was removed from the force in june and charged in september with wanton endangerment endangerment for firing by the way into neighbouring apartments. Not for firing into brianna. Taylor's home so that would add up to three officers finally removed from the force. But is that what justice looks like activists and protesters marched across the nation. This year calling. For justice for brianna taylor for george floyd for mcclain for rayshard brooks for jacob blake and for so many more black people killed or senior seriously injured by american police every time. The protesters have specifically asked for new policing standards. The reallocation of police department funds charges for officers who kill innocent civilians and increased accountability for officers but as twenty twenty comes to a close. Have they gotten anything that they've asked for. Have they gotten justice for the lives. Lost this year. The officers who kill george. Floyd are now facing charges but the police involved in mclean's death last year remain uncharged for shooting. Jacob blake in front of his children leaving him paralyzed. Officers have been placed on administrative leave as they await. The results of investigation and those results are expected to be announced soon. And in the case of brianna taylor there are still no charges for her death but two more officers might lose their jobs nine months after she lost her life. These are the unanswered questions of twenty twenty after a year of protests and fervent pleas for change. Where do we stand now. Will we see the change. That protesters have asked for under biden administration. Joining me now. Alicia garza civil rights activist and co creator of the black lives matter movement. Good to see you again. Thank you for being with us. What a year. What a year. It's been on on some levels. It's been a deeply sad year for social justice and on another. It's been a remarkable awakening. The likes of which we have not seen since the civil rights movement but now we move into a new era. What does that look like to you. Well i think in this new era what we really need to be paying attention to is not continuing to sweep this epidemic under the rug. What we've seen for not just this past year but at least the last decade is that honestly we're facing a situation where police officers in law enforcement in this country have more rights and more protections than the civilians that they are sworn to protect and serve and that in and of itself is a tragedy but then bigger than that. What we're seeing is that there are no consistent accountability mechanisms in frankly. There isn't the political will to enforce those mechanisms when they do exist that is why we see such uneven levels of accountability across the country from department to department and we even see it in what i would say is severely weakened department of justice especially under the trump administration and certainly under attorney general. Bill barr or former attorney. General bill bars. The case may be so for us. I think moving into a twenty twenty one. There's a few things that we need to see number one. We need to see in up rooting of racism in every aspect of our lives and that includes police departments in it includes law enforcement number two. We need to see a reallocation of resources across the board. What we're seeing is that we are bloating. The budgets of these police departments with no accountability. No transparency no oversight in so the results are very clear but what if we reallocate those resources into the community needs that we have mental health services. All of the things that were calling on police to help do something about but that they're actually not trained to do and they're not the best people to do it. And then thirdly i think what we really need to see in twenty. Twenty one is a strengthening of oversight mechanisms whether it be at the federal level or whether it be in cities and states where most law enforcement policy right is actually developed and implemented a. You've laid that out as clearly as you have numbers. Two and three are political. They can be done number. One up rooting racism. We've been tried to do that. I respect for a very long time. What does that involve. That's not just about having a biden harris administration. That's different a bigger thing. It is but it's important for the biden harris administration to actually take this on as a core component of their administration. The problem here is that too often the way that we talk about. Racism is that it's about me being mean to people and that actually is not racism. That's just people being mean but racism is about richt rules. It's about keeping people from power decision making indignity and we see that in systems board whether it be law enforcement whether it'd be education whether it be healthcare whether be employment in our economy. Racism is fundamentally about rigged rules that keep people who have been designed or designated as other from the things that they need to live well and the biden harris administration needs to make this component of their agenda for their administration and they too need to embrace. This notion that racism is not again about people being mean to each other. Racism is fundamentally about rules that are rigged against communities that have been left out and left behind for far too long. Once we start to address that from that perspective then we can take on the mandate of changing those rules getting rid of those rules and replacing them with rules that allow people to access dignity equally. What an amazingly clear description of that. I appreciate that only smarter for talking to you about this alicia garza rights activist and the co creator of the black lives matter movement. May you have a strong twenty twenty one. We'll see you next year. Happy new year alley. Thanks for having me a pleasure. We'll be right back. Tomorrow's the last day of twenty twenty. But i want to take you back a long time to nineteen thousand nine hundred forty two in new york city fearing wartime air and naval attacks on its historic skyline in december of nineteen forty. Two new york city was under what's called a mandatory dim out a city essentially in darkness as a result the decades old tradition of a luminous new york new year's eve celebration in times square looked very different that year. Here's the front page of the new york times on january first nineteen forty three. The headline reads quote. Four hundred thousand revelers. Fill time square in dim. New year's. here's other times covered that dark new year's eve celebration quote new year's eve in times square had a weird quality last night. A crowd of some four hundred thousand swelled by enormous numbers moved. Zombie like through the dim. Nece the restless thousands lacked zest war. Sometimes somehow late. it's head on the celebration and tended to mute it. Last night was the first new year's eve since nineteen eight that no ball glowed to signal. The death of the old year and the birth of the new end quote new year's eve tomorrow will undoubtedly look very different from what we are used to. There will be no crowds in times square at all. The new normal new year celebration is cancelled as the country. Reels from over. Three hundred and forty thousand americans killed by this terrible virus. Twenty twenty one is going to start on a somber note. But it's worth remembering that we as a country have overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges before in december forty two our country in the midst of a long and painful war that would claim the lives of over four hundred thousand americans. We've managed to adapt. We are beginning to see an end to this pandemic at the very least there's a collective sense of a newfound hope with these vaccines new year is after all a reason to be hopeful. We've made it through awful times in our nation's history before and we will do so again but despite and because of how much it has felt this year we are in fact all in this together and together. We will prevail. It's been my distinct honor to spend so many of these hours with you this year. My gratitude to rachel for trusting me to deliver the show and to her absolutely incredible team of journalists. Who are so deeply. Committed to uncovering the truth for you night. After night on the rachel maddow show. We'll do this again next year until then i wish you a safe and happy. New year's holiday the winter matters show weeknights at nine on msnbc. Hey guys willie guys here this week on the sunday. Sit down podcast. I get together with wonder woman herself. Gal gadot to talk about the release of the highly anticipated sequel. Get our conversation now for free wherever you download your podcasts.

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January 4: Assuaging Assange

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January 4: Assuaging Assange

"The theaters have closed. But the show look on play me. Podcast is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of north. America's most acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit back and experience from chilling thrillers to gut wrenching dramas to a river in comedies. Each month experience the exhilaration of theater from the comfort of your own home. Plenty available wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast. Hello i'm carol off. And i'm chris ouden. This is as it happens. The podcast edition tonight. S waging assange. A uk court rules that the founder of wikileaks cannot be extradited to the united states meaning. Julian assange may finally be free of legal trouble and free to go bad call over the weekend. Donald trump phone georgia's secretary of state and pressured him to find new votes in his favour. Some republicans fear. That won't help their efforts to win an imminent pair of runoff elections point taken. The quebec government tells early recipients of the pfizer vaccine will not be getting their second dose as scheduled and a montreal tells us that's not what she and her patients signed up for cheap thrills a rare and dazzling bird shows up in maryland far from it's usual flapping grounds reach the swiss ambassador to the us who gives a colorful account of being among the first to spot it. Let's old is about to be new again. Twenty twenty one sees the copyright expire on a bumper crop of books films and music that came out in nineteen twenty five making them fair game for american creators and there'll be six sides to every story it's frustrating puzzle to imagine how they're going to make a movie or several about the frustrating puzzle known as the rubik's cube as it happens the monday edition radio that admits. Even if it's boring it will be full of twists and turns. Julian assange may soon be freeman today. A british judge rejected a request by the united states to extradite the wikileaks founder to face espionage charges. The judge cited mr assange mental health. Saying that he would be at high risk of suicide if he were sent to face trial in the united states. if he's released it will be mr assange first taste of freedom since he began hiding out in the ecuadorian embassy in two thousand twelve. Julian assange is partner. Stella morris spoke to journalists the courthouse. Today i had hoped the today would be the day that julian would come home. Today is not back day but that day come soon as long as julian has to endure suffering in isolation as an unconvicted prisoner in belmarsh prison and as long as our children continue to be the rest of their father's love and affection we cannot celebrate. We will celebrate the day he comes home. Today is a victory for jillian. Today's victory is the first step towards justice. In this case we are pleased that the court has recognized the seriousness and inhumanity of what he has endured and what he faces. But let's not forget. The indictment in the us has not been dropped very extremely concerned. The us government has decided to appeal this decision. It continues to want to punish julian and make him disappear into the deepest darkest hole of the us prison system for the rest of his life. That was still morris. The partner of julian assange james. Dolman is a freelance journalist who was in the courthouse to hear the judgment. We reached him in london. Jane sweat was it like in the courthouse as you watched this judgment being read. It was very surprising because well we had oh expected was the judge which just commend nc exhibition load fight. What happened was the judge began to read available speech. And i think we will suddenly realized something unusual going on here so as it built up and when the defense arguments rejecting rejecting known rejecting them. I still thought that something unusual here. Why are we going through this until she came to cena point. Which was msn santis mental health and the danger to him if she was present system on suddenly load dismissed. The usa klay surprising moment. One of them was surprising. Moments my career and so could you see the reaction of mr assange in the courtroom. Nor from when i was spoken to colleagues. He was ready face. Mosque said the video to reaction. And what about did not. We heard the cheers outside. Where did people react inside. The courtroom is well in the same way. None of supporters to enter the core because of the current. Covert your sessions. But we could hear the say. Core is the new social dose eight now so she rejected. The judge rejected the arguments. They'd presented saying it wasn't politically motivated that he would be able to get a fair trial That this was not. This is not politics yet as you point out. She rejected extradition based on his mental health. What were what did she say about that. The evidence we have to cheating the case was the at masan voice. Conflict in the united states festival will be facing incredibly. Won't say. And i think two hundred and seventy years was toasted as opposed sentence. He could get sagging Held in a supermax prison which is essentially a sale that smaller than a parking space. He'd be put in a situation where he was not sale which only contains martius an a toilet and nothing else and he'd be there for twenty zero a day on day we had some One of the walkies presents in new york to see one would speak to him. He because playstation knowledge to speak to the president's none of the present stafford communicate with them and she said something that made me shudder. You can scream all you want but know what year you can. We have some some fe minute. Psychiatrists danger of self hamas suicide would be very very high and oppressive is. The word isn't it. She said that she accepts that. This would be that oppression. is as as a bar to extradition requires a high threshold but she felt that this would be oppressive to him. That his mental. This is his mental health deteriorate causing him to commit suicide with the quote single-minded determination of his autism spectrum disorder. What did you make that will. I don't want to get so much into some of the psychiatric evidence we helped with ngos some gray s not to my masan which i don't want to go into. I think this should remain private. But it's it's not unusual really very similar ruling two years ago and kiss him on coke. Laudi love hill. Who was accused of attacking. Us computer systems under judge. High court led me the same rilling. An oppressive has a Meaning and law is not just a general term that About on someone which is far more than eighty punishment for the me of commitments. He is you mentioned. Julian assange could be sentenced up to one hundred and seventy five years in jail for espionage charges which include giving classified materials from iraq From state department cables from montana. Mugabe detainees. All of this means. Also that the the. Us justice department is very very determined to get mr assange into the united states and they have made it clear that they will probably seek An appeal so might they come back and say okay. We will create better conditions for his mental health. Perhaps be successful. I would see two things on like on coastal Judgment to peak on a pew court cannot hear. New evidence can only points to appeal. This would be head from two video evidence. Psychiatrist for the defense. And to dominance psychiatrists prosecuted doesn't leave a law of repeal. Well mr assange stay in custody. During all this the disa- fifteen days the decisions as to appeal will he is back in custody city. The woman We have a heating on waking state. Where the defense apply for bail. Masseur sons as you nor some trouble with the before he skipped bail as it will however the defense sustain they will offer stanton conditions owners conditions on a bill so we will fainter every student released on wednesday. You probably wings. It's extraordinarily think. After all these years. seven years. He was in the ecuadorian embassy. The years he spent in custody awaiting to dissect tradition hearing he may walk out a free man in a matter of weeks then yes extraordinary box one of extraordinary these which sometimes often coats. And what do you think. Mr sange will do if he is released. I have no idea. I shouldn't taught non stellar modus and the mother showed has been invading role. So hopefully we'll see her on the they will sell dance Where he will love full. You'll ever the uk where you left australia. Whatever happens to be very moment to stay in this whole case. Perhaps a d. that James thank you. you're welcome. James dolman is a freelance journalist and we reached him in london quebec is breaking with pfizer's recommendations for the delivery of its to part covid nineteen vaccine. The drug company says people need to shots within twenty one days but studies suggest that a single dose will reduce the likelihood of serious symptoms. So beck says it will focus on getting just one jab into as many high priority arms as it. Can that means that the first people who got the first vaccinations are now receiving notices canceling. Their follow up appointments. Dorey shift got her notice today. Dr shift practices family medicine and obstetrics in montreal. And that's where we reached her. Does she howdy days away. Were you from getting that. Second dose of the pfizer vaccine. My appointment was For thursday afternoon. And so what did you think when you learn that you won't beginning it. I i i. I was very confused. A very angry didn't understand why they were making this decision. Would they tell you so. We got a email from our organization explaining that the government had decided to take the second doses that were reserved for all the people that have been vaccinated and use it to vaccinate more people and that We would have to wait longer than expected for the second does but there was no indication of when we would get it. You have no idea when that second dose will come. I have no idea and to be honest. i don't even know if we will get it. What were you told when you give your consent to have the first shot. So we clearly consented to a two does vaccine as pfizer has indicated. So when i when i went to get my vaccine i signed a consent for saying that i was gonna get to vaccine In in the way that it was it was studied. And do you think you would have agreed to get. It knew that second dose would be so delayed or perhaps not even happen. Absolutely not i would not have agreed to get it. I would have probably waited to see. It's me wait for another vaccine. That was was proven as one does vaccine or wait for there to be more available. Vaccines that i would get the vaccine. The way that it was meant to be given the quebec government. The ministry of health is saying this is the quote. The effectiveness of the first dose. Fourteen days after administration is more than ninety percent. So why not. Why can't that be enough. Then why can't you be satisfied with just one shot because in fact if you look at the studies and you look at the the research it's not ninety percent it's all the studies that are available. Show that it's between. I think fifty to fifty six percent effective after the first. Oh this ninety percents. I'm not. I'm not a public house specialist. I've thought it all but having spoken to my colleagues. Who are what they explained. Was that what this little committee in quebec did was. They looked at the study. And they found a subgroup in this large study subgroup. That was made up of small amounts of people that show that maybe in this subgroup the vaccine may have been more effective like possibly ninety percent and then they took that any generalize it which is not validated. So what what do you think has motivated this well. I think that canada in general is very behind vaccination Including quebec and so. I think that they're just trying to vaccinate. More people in the expense of a good and a protective vaccine have to think about all the healthcare workers in the sunlight workers who are now only gonna be a half protected. And what good is that gonna. Do you think that those are convenient facts because they want to get more people into the first inoculation Yes there is no data so you know health. Canada approved this vaccine. It was an emergency approval and it was. It was based on a specific dosing. Schedule from pfizer So you know it needs to be given especially because it's so no in the way that it was studied in the way that the label says that it should be given And they're not doing that. And so it s. We've become now a giant experiment and the people who who got the first vaccine did not consent to be part of an experiment. It's completely unethical. The director of corporate affairs for pfizer has reiterated. Day can't support these claims that it actually is effective just one shot and when asked how long before the first dose becomes ineffective with the second. They said they don't have data for that either. What does that say to you. It says it says that quebec is just making up their own rules and in fact premier logo a couple of days before they made this announcement. He announced that he was gonna follow the science but they're not following science. This is a big controversy in britain right now and i heard her followed a number of expert interviews and the weekend in britain each contradicted the previous one they. There're so many different opinions. Do you think these contradictions might shake public confidence in the program. One hundred percent. I think we already lost the confidence of a lot of people. And as you said these are opinions. And that's exactly what they are is their opinion. We don't know aside from what what pfizer. Study to delay of twenty one days. And i think it's twenty as for the other company. We don't know anything else. We don't know if a booster after three months is going to work. We don't know if you're going to have to restart your vaccination. They just don't know and so started making up. Hypotheses from opinion is just complete nonsense at this point during a global pandemic. We need to follow what the science says and the sexiest needs to be used. How it was studied by the manufacturer dude. Same time do you think there is some value in giving many more people a little bit of protection than a smaller group giving them double protection or the full protection. There is some value again. I i don't wanna claim to be an expert in infectious disease epidemiology. And certainly. yes it does make sense but again like the studies. Aren't there and i think the big issue here is healthcare workers and frontline workers and my colleagues who work in the icu and the emergency room and on the covert war These healthcare workers needs to be protected. Not fifty percents. They need to be protected. Ninety five percent ninety eight percents. So what advice would you give to. Someone being offered their first dose in quebec today. That's a good question I don't know i would. I would really urge people to do their own research to really understand the fox to understand what they're going to be getting up to shift will diva appreciate speaking with you. Thank you thank you dr. Dorothy schiff practices family medicine and obstetrics in montreal. It was gray and drizzly and much of maryland yesterday but that made it so much. Easier to see a spectacular brightly colored bird perched in the trees hundreds of people flocked to chesapeake and ohio canal national park this weekend to catch a fleeting glimpse of a rare painted bunting. The birds are usually spotted in florida. So it's unclear how one managed to make it as far north as maryland. Jack peterloo is an avid birders. And happens to be switzerland's ambassador to the us. He was one of the first to spot the bird on saturday and he snapped an incredible photo of it before it flew away. We reached ambassador lou in washington. Dc ambassador. peter. Who was it like for you to see this bird in the flesh to see this in the flesh is a really interesting experience because it's one of the birds you really want to see if you are in north america as as as a european and it's difficult to observe it's extremely rare but it's difficult to observe and to see it in. Generally in the dc area is really exceptional. This is radio and this is one of those times when i feel the limitations of this technology and so i can't show people what this looks like but maybe you can describe this bird. Try and imagine a punting so third the size and more is the shape of a sparrow but with colors that would actually fit a very tropical parakeet or some sort of very tropical bird so he does bright yellow extraordinary green abreu head and the red bellied. This but really looks like like it has been more or less painted by surrealist painter. How did you come to learn that one of these birds was actually just a short drive away from washington. Dc bird watcher in canada will know exactly how it is. We have our networks the applications you get the rapid alert you know something has been seen though you'll get a phone call or text you and in no time you will ever hundred burgers on the spot which was actually what exactly what happened. A on the banks of the potomac. It sounds like a spy network. Exactly exactly yeah. It's intelligence basically it's intelligence collection gathering and dissemination but now for the last three or four days there has been a massive influx of people coming in and all of them enjoying the sides and it was. It was a very nice feeling to see people being so passionate about the beauty of nature surprisingly enough washington being a big city but its surroundings the city in the green. It's built in a forest and swamp. I mean not politically speaking of personal and and older run washington. There are beautiful areas with an extremely interesting variety of wildlife. Didn't dec- this bird. You actually were able to photograph. Is that right yes correct. Birth photography has been my passion for a for a very long time. I was a little bit unlucky yesterday. When i showed the picture that was published in the washington post because the weather was not so nice. Light was not not so ideal that went back this morning and this morning show that much. Better one how you got him again. Oh voters you know. I don't know burdened by learning quickly here of course passionate. Wow and so. How has your network responded to the photos that you got. Generally the bird is where very happy. Because it's draws the attention to a hubby that he's in intimately linked to a nature conservation so generally the voters weather very happy. I've heard people who sell binoculars and bird feeders. They said this is the most amazing year they've had for the this enthusiasm and not just of people but how young they are. How enthusiastic people have been about seeing birds. Do you think that's just one of the few good things that's come out of this horrible year. I know the sale of Cameras and when okay nurses has the reason know whether the good going to give me a cut after what happened. There is a very interesting aspect about on the road. Watching you meet extremely interesting people. You would be surprised that kind of people you meet around washington budding really high level. People i mean birding is the new golfing a nature because golf golf courses. This ertz ecologically speaking and you have to pay the fees to be a member and hit. Just go to the woods and you meet extremely interesting people. It's fascinating to hear how just tell us you are about how excited you are. Because you're the swiss ambassador to the united states here in washington during probably one of the most heady political times. We've we've seen in a long time but it was more exciting to see the bird than to watch what was going on in congress and the white house sometimes. It's very nice to be able to go up and see the birds which ones now i mean the real ones and no. I don't think there has been many more interesting years to be an ambassador. In the united states of america it has been a fascinating time and it also has been fascinating to see how resilient american institutions are Which which was a very good sign for the future of this country. Do you think is also assigned how resilient animals are that. we're now with it. I guess the the the sad part of state you're seeing this bird is that It's believed climate changes had the effect of moving these these these animals birds in two different places that does that cross your mind as you observed it. Yes it did that. We don't know exactly what the reasons are. It could also be special wins this year. The winds will be different but there is no doubt that climate change is with us in my former job. I was embassador to to kenya. And within five years i could see the climate patents changing dramatically where i come from in southern switzerland. We are seeing increasingly mediterranean species showing up that we're not there twenty years ago and now the show regularly and there is no doubt that they're coming up because it's getting warmer no question all right. We'll leave it there best. Thank you happy new year jack. Peterloo is switzerland's ambassador to the us and an avid bird watcher. We reached him in washington dc. And if you'd like to see the photo. The ambassador took of the rare painted bunting posted to our twitter account at cbc as it happens In a world where crime is a vicious circle. Here come a whole bunch of squares fire. This summer meet a powerhouse character who believes one good turn deserves another rubik's cube. The movie love makes the world go round but one level hero makes the world go cubic. Look i don't know what the rubik's cube movie will be about. But i know there will be a rubik's cube movie and i just don't understand that a reason article in variety says there's a forthcoming feature film based on the bestselling puzzle toy. And maybe not just the one film either. The head of hyde park entertainment told variety. He looks forward to creating a wonderful and complex rubik's universe so obviously he sees something akin to the marvel. cinematic universe accepted marvel. Has superheroes battling super villains with superpowers. Whereas a rubik's cube is an inanimate objects but the power only to frustrate although it does have many many enemies including me look. They'll probably get patty jenkins to direct an aaron sorkin screenplay. In the rubik's cube movie will win six oscars and it'll be followed by yoyo. The movie and pogo stick. The adventure begins but given that. I'd never came close to solving that puzzle toy. I'm clearly not the intended audience. So forgive me. If this argument is like my ability to solve a rubik's cube one-sided told the court. I'm hearing from you to use one small man a giant wheel but i do wish say official that. I'm wrongfully imprisoned right now. Uncover season seven dead wrong. They killed tipple. He just ninety nine available on. Cbc listen and wherever you get your podcasts. Hi josh block. Host of uncover escaping nexium from cbc podcasts. I pull back the curtain on the secret of self help group that experts call a called and follow one woman's harrowing journey to get out. The podcast was featured in rolling stone magazine and named one of the best podcasts of two thousand eighteen in the atlantic. listen to uncover escaping nexium on c. wesson. Or wherever you get your podcasts for weeks now. Us president. Donald trump has been pressuring states to throw out the results of november's presidential election but over the weekend has efforts crossed into new territory. We have won this election in georgia mason. All of this. And there's there's nothing wrong with with saying that bread you know. I mean having having a correct the people of georgia are angry. And these numbers are going to be repeated on monday night along with others that we're gonna have by that time you're much more substantially and the people of georgia are the people. The country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that you know that you recalculates. Let's audio published by the washington. Post the president. Speaking with georgia secretary of state brad ravensburger and his legal counsel on that call. The president urged mr ravnsborg or to quote find eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty votes on quote. Legal experts say that call puts the president on shaky ground and some republicans fear it puts them on shaky ground to especially in georgia which will hold to critical senate runoff elections tomorrow. Jay williams is a longtime republican. Strategist georgia he's worked with the georgia. United victory super pac. Which supports republican. Senator kelly leffler campaign for reelection. We reached him in atlanta j. Wetland your mind when you heard the audio of the president's phone call with brad ravensburger sound like he was upset and You know. I mean it it's It's not something that surprised me. I mean it's it's the same kind of thing we've we've heard from the president for the last four years. You don't think it's any different than the other efforts to have this. Have the election overturned. Do you think that this is. He crossed the line as many democrats said that this is cost line into possible criminal offense. Well i mean. I think you're probably talking about two different things. I mean whether he you know whether they sound sometime of impact on what's happening and whether there's some type of criminal activity or something. I think it's probably separate. I mean i don't know that it's going to have an impact on the senate race Here simply because you know there's in my opinion there's probably been a lot worse. Things he said over the last four years And i and i don't. I don't think probably the laughed views. It the same as right. And so that's i don't think it's going to have much of an impact whether broke coupla and i'm not an attorney so i couldn't tell you whether that that happened or if that's the case we heard from many democrats over the weekend i'm show you followed it. We haven't heard from any republicans responding to that phone call. What are you hearing from republicans. Well i mean look i mean as it relates to the most important issue a handful republicans which is winning these. I you know it's just. It's just more noise than we don't want to have to deal with right now. it's not ideal you know if you're not focused laser focus on your opponent in an election cycle that you're going to have problems and you know right now. Republicans are so focused themselves or issues about them and not how bad the other side is. So that's i think that's going to have a little bit of impact but it's mostly for twitter and for folks in the media to talk about. I don't know that regular voters are going to change their opinion about the present based on it but they certainly. The president trump himself believes that this is going to impact the election the run off election in georgia. He's said that you. Should you have to find those eleven thousand votes before tuesday. He told mr evans burger. Because of what you've done to the president referring to himself a lot of people aren't going out to vote. A lot of republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president so he seems to believe is going to have an impact on the the election. What do you think. Well i mean you know. Look at the numbers right now. We're down four percent of where we were versus the democrats in the general election. So you could probably make the case that there are some impact that this fraud or you know. Belief in fraud is impacting. The election Whatever brad raffles burger does between this weekend. In tuesday's not going to change the election results. I mean this thing is on. This thing is already baked decided. It's just a matter of whether these folks show up believing the president or believe don't believe in the president who who gets more of their folks to show up on tuesday. You know the the arguments are made. You know you've already had three million people have already voted in this thing It's not going to change the outcome of it You know whether it discourages republicans from showing up. I don't think so. There's not a lot of swing better showing up at a runoff election. It's a it's a. It's a base democrat or republican and whoever gets the most folks out with you mentioned a moment ago that it fraud or belief in fraud. Where do you sit with that. Do you believe that the election in georgia was. I think that there is a case to be made that there was some fraud i mean. I think that there's some evidence for that. I think some folks conveniently ignored that whether it's widespread or not. I mean they're you know whether something's provable or not. I mean it's two different things. I don't think it election was stolen from us But i've been doing this for a long time. And i just i think that if if it wa- if it was there's no way that anybody is going to be able to prove it and so focusing our firepower i'm trying to prove something that we can't prove is you know it's it's a waste of time. It's it's not changed. Anything except distracted. Republicans at this election was If not distant in georgia he claims but another places those republicans who run are we re one. Congressional seats. Were on that same ballot. So does it not raise the question about republicans who got elected. Well if you if you look back. I mean you know you have a bunch of democrats in two thousand sixteen and everything was fraudulent. You know you've had democrats saying florio for years that the russians influence the election even though they had no proof of that. So i mean you have both sides that claim it when they lose You know whether it's a tool that they used to fire up their base or whether there's merit to it i think there's probably merit to it On our side. The problem is left of saying it never happens and the right thing happens a lot. I think it's probably somewhere in between and unfortunately we're probably not going to be able to find that because both sides are so polarized and yet and ted. Cruz is leading this effort by republican senators to establish this election commission as supposed to do to investigate the president's claims of voter fraud. D- believe that's warranted. I think any time. You want to investigate something i mean. That's the that's the point of a legislative body if you don't think that there's anything wrong then what's the harm in investigating if something happened if you're opposed to an investigation. The only you know the only outcome that can happen is nothing changes. And so i think for folks that want to investigate or believe in finding the truth or want to. There's no harm in doing an investigation but there are many republicans who are opposed to this. Audit is well. It seems that the republicans in congress are truly divided. What but lasting effect do you think this has on your party. I think that any time a party whether it's the democrats or republicans choose to attack the actual system you know versus the idea that you know there the other sides of going. I think it's a problem. And you know the democrats did four years. And the republicans are returning the favor and It's not helping either side. I think it diminishes you know what our country is and what we're what we stand for at the end of the day. I don't think it's good for democracy for us to make allegations that don't have significant enough proof and i think that some of the folks on the republican side could have done a better job of you know making their case. You have republican judges. That are throwing these cases out. It's not it's not as if it's a bunch of appointees rejecting need so we've got to make a better case if we're gonna make that argument. I'm fine with us. Make an argument. But we've got to have the actual evidence to back it up all right. We'll leave it there. Thank you thank you. Thanks for having me on. Have a great day jay. Williams is a republican strategist in georgia and the founder of the stone ridge group we reached him in atlanta. And we've got more on this story on our webpage at cbc dot ca slash. Ai h part across canada. A pattern is emerging as politicians. Were telling constituents to stay home over the holidays. They themselves off jet-setting. The latest politician to fall is albert cabinet minister tracy allard who travelled to hawaii with her family today. Alberta premier jason kenney accepted ms allen's resignation from cabinet and. She wasn't the only one in a facebook post to the premier announced that his chief of staff who traveled to the uk last month at also resigned along with five other united conservative party m. l. a.'s. Who traveled internationally. The luzia was hoping to be in hawaii for christmas. She spoke at the albert. Ndp's news conference today from the children's hospital where her son is being cared for. Five years ago we contacted children's wish about doing wish brayden and when brayden was small. I had taken him out to the west coast is family and he was nonverbal. At that point he wasn't Wasn't even moving kelly. At that point he didn't even walk until he was five. And so I lay him on the sand beaches of parcel beach and he just rolled any laughed. You laughed and he was so at peace through bats to that stay so it was a no-brainer when we were granted the wish to go to hawaii because to have incident a warm ocean would be absolute are absolute dream And the hopeless to go the fall Or even possibly ironically for christmas break covid nineteen obviously has changed the world for everybody else As well as us and so it was hard but we had to cancel it. It's just it's not worth the risk Reagan already been in icu before with with grown a- virus before it even mutated into covid nineteen and so to hear about Tracy outward was the first that i heard of about travelling to hawaii and she went to maintain a seventeen year family tradition. I've never been to hawaii by kids. Have never been to hawaii and honestly. I won't probably be able to afford to go to hawaii anytime soon. we've never travelled tropical and to even think about seventeen years straight going to hawaii is beyond gobsmacked for me to have that freedom and that money The first reaction for me was certainly anger. It was frustration to have so many of them traveling over the christmas holiday without a forethought. For what other people were going through deviant dishonest behaviour was leoluca speaking today from the children's hospital where her son is being cared for The year was nineteen twenty five and it was one for the books quite literally. F scott fitzgerald virginia woolf ernest hemingway alain locke and aldous huxley all published new titles that year and this year those texts all enter the public domain in the united states. It's a moment. Jennifer jenkins has been waiting for since two thousand one when american copyright on those works had been set to expire. But before that could happen. Congress extended that term by two decades and ms jenkins had to sit tight along with anyone hoping to get their hands on the titles for purposes of adaptation or reinterpretation. Jennifer jenkins is the director of duke university's center for the study of the public domain in durham north carolina. Jennifer which works. Are you most excited to see. Enter public domain in the united states. This year gosh. It's such a great list. But i start by mentioning the great gas fee at least in the us. We were all forced to read it in high school And the bookstore resonates to this day. So i'm excited about f scott. Miss journals the great gatsby of really excited about mrs dalloway by virginia woolf a huge virginia fan and a solorio also excited about the original german version of franz kafka's very spooky disturbing book the trial and also with movies and really excited about the silent films from nineteen twenty five particularly the ones featuring buster. Keaton and harold lloyd cushenberry them. The physical comedy is astounding. I mean think about the limitations of the median. They had to do everything through their their physical activity without the dialogue and buster. Keaton in particular was so talented. And you can see his influence on everyone from jack taty to john. Cleese to everyone else why do you why do you think nineteen twenty. Five was so loaded. Why do you think what is it about that time. That created this. I guess the the the conditions are such creativity on of this nature. I think nature twenty-five will so loaded because of the contradictions that were going on. There was the lingering upheaval and tragedy of world war one which was fresh in everyone's memory but there was also a booming economy whose fruits were unevenly distributed. And you see that tension reflected. I think particularly in the literature of the time. The music was is extraordinary to is the peak of what's known as the harlem renaissance isn't it. Yes the peak of the harlem renaissance. And you have this incredible music coming out that if you listen to it now is just as fresh as it was in nineteen twenty five almost a century later and so with music. You see everything from the earworm and chas standard sweet georgia brown to amazing music by african american musicians to ellington. Wc handy and works by amazing african. american women including lovey austin. Bessie smith and ma rainy who is featured in the pretty popular netflix. Maybe that's that's not right now called moretti's black bottom. What does it actually mean that now that this public demand what does that change for. You say you're very excited about this. Being the public main. What is different. Didn't these works are now in the public. I mean well when works on the public demand. that means they're copyright term has which means that all of these works are free for anyone to use and to build upon without having to worry about a lawsuit so just to take one example. The great gatsby is going into the public domain and an author named michael ferris smith has written a prequel. He's written the story of knicker way before he shows up in west egg and tomorrow. I think the book comes out. He's free to publish prequel without permission. From the estate as far as the music goes what changes for our ability we. We've we hear these song. So how much would change is about our ability to hear the hear the music while what changes is the. The compositions are entering the public domain recordings. But what it means is that now. You are free to adapt and publicly. Perform those recordings without permission. So if you're a youth orchestra or high school jazz band. You can engage with the works without having to get permission from the copyright holder or without having to pay a fee understand. It also leads the possibility that That there could be more diverse interpretations of some of these classic works. Is that right. That's exactly right now if you want to take one of these works and re imagine them for a different era for today's era or the more inclusive or a diverse cast of characters. You can do that and cup. Holders don't always welcome out what i was in practice. One of the cases. I worked on involved at work that still no copyright in the us gone with the wind An african american woman writer and songwriter alice randall. She wanted to reimagine gone with the wind from the perspective of the slaves. She wanted to skewer gone with the wind. For it's a historical and romanticised depiction of slaveholding society. She was sued for copyright infringement. When works entered the public domain the next author who wants to reimagine a work for example from the perspective of a marginalized community or characters. They can do so without having to worry about being sued. And we're talking about this for your for your country for the american public. Canada is a bit different. What does this. What are the this this release. What does it mean public domain release. Was it mean for us. Well you're copyright term in canada. At least for right now is one of the gentler terms in the world. Life of the author plus fifty years so and canada. You're seeing works from authors. Who died as recently as nineteen seventy. Enter your public domain. But you did sign. This thing called the kennedy. Us mexico trade agreement One of the obligations in there is to extend your term harmfully to life plus seventy years and right. now you're in the implementation window and so we'll see you this year or next year. How that implementation will happen. Whether there will be any measures that can assuage some of the harm. Just finally there are people have suggested that maybe we are entering the roaring twenties. He's again That this is an people. There's a sense that preps we're entering into a period of creativity. Not unlike what you've described about the the the nineteen twenty and nineteen twenty five. Do you sense that. I do sense that i mean. We are living in a narrow incredible polarization incredible contradictions. Incredible inequality And so you know if that kind of tension does produce the quality of art we saw from the twenty s. It's a different set of contradictions. Of course i mean in the nineteen twenties in the us. We were still in an era of segregation. Still lynchings the jim crow era now. We're still dealing with systemic racism so there are different set of contradictions. But i do think that milou can produce some incredible art definitely. What happy twenty. Twenty one to you. We'll same girl was a pleasure talking with you. Thanks jennifer by by. Jennifer jenkins runs duke university's center for the study of the public domain. That's in durham. North carolina canada's first soon nami evacuation towers set to be built at a high school in masset. British columbia on high y apparently will look like an elevated parking garage ten meters off the ground higher ground for students and staff in case of su nami. And it can't come soon enough for mass resident kisha there nine years ago when a seven point seven magnitude earthquake rocked the shores of tech. Y triggering sooner me warning. She spoke with the cbc scary. I was a new mom. So i had a six month old baby and the earthquake hits. It was very big. It was the biggest one i've ever experienced. There was a sense of like. Oh gosh what do we do now. Typically when we have a c. Nami evacuation warning. We've got these sirens that go off the fire hall and the whole town is supposed to be able to hear them and not signal to like. Okay time to pack up and go but that didn't happen right away. But the the sirens eventually went off and then the the emergency personnel were driving around telling people to evacuate so then we went up to the evacuation site. But it was just so congested. We had essentially the entire community. Driving their cars and trucks evacuation site which is basically ten kilometers down the highway. Until there's definitely the sense of panic and fear. Oh gosh if there's to get wiped out so what what does this announcement of an evacuation tower mean. Then you know as a parent. I've got two kids. I mean i have full trust in the The school and the staff there. But i do know how long it takes to evacuate a school and to drive up the highway so i think to have this tower on the grounds. It really is going to limit that time. Basically from the time it takes to walk across the road four minutes. Maybe rather than twenty this sammy evacuation tower is expected to be completed by fall. Twenty twenty two. What do you do in the meantime. We just do as we do. This is the first one in canada. And so i think in the meantime we just you know. Make sure we've got our our emergency packs ready to go and our cell phones charged the ring on and try to be as prepared as we can. Massive bc resident kisha shudder speaking with caroliina deryke host of cbs's daybreak north. You've been listening to the as it happens. Podcast our show can be heard monday to friday on. Cbc radio one non sirius xm following the world at six also listened to the whole show on the cbc. Listen app download it for free from the app store or google play. Thanks for listening. 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Election Day 2021 Special Report w/ GA Election Integrity Expert Garland Favorito

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Election Day 2021 Special Report w/ GA Election Integrity Expert Garland Favorito

"Welcome to a special edition of the drive. Time news blast. This is monica perez. Today is the day that a georgia senate runoff in georgia. It's january fifth it. Tomorrow is the day congress. And the senate certify the doors for the presidential election and on the ground as always fighting the good fight is our friend from voter. J. dot org garland fabri toe an election integrity activists we have known and talked to brought to you for years now and he has breaking news on his fight to battle the steel. Stop the steel and we just thought this would be a one time departure from our normal format for this a exclusive and very important information. Hi garland thanks so much for being with us today. I know you're really busy. Well i am michael. But i always have time to for you Because you special. So ma make that time available but yeah you're right. I am busy. I'm actually while everybody's allison house voting wondering who won I'm heads down on air lawsuit. Because we got some exciting news Yesterday that we will have a hearing tomorrow. I four o'clock on our motions to compel fulton county to show us the ballots from the november third election. These are the mail ballots that had been questioned by four different poll workers handle in during the audit. That the these are twenty year poem manager tides and they detected The fraudulent ballots the fulton county. Mail in cal- You saw the video mica and the state farm arena re talk about on your show where they illegally scanned ballots. Tens of thousands about after the poll workers Had i'm sorry. They pull monitors had laughed and the media and they tell them that they were done for the evening then went ahead and pulled out those Those hidden ballots from underneath skirted table so That's what we're asking them to county to show us the ballot and we think we're going to be able to force the issue tomorrow at four o'clock high so i want to back up a minute You with last time we talked was this weekend. We did a livestream also as an are propaganda report feed. And you were telling us that you had this litigation teed up that you wanted to do i think it was a forensic analysis of the of the absentee and mail in ballots. Now was that in fulton county. Is that all of them both. The ones the poll workers who signed affidavits that they saw ballots e mail in ballots. They felt were authentic because they did not have creases appear to be on the same paper stock as the authentic ballots and the circles that were filled in to indicate the voter's preference seem to be filled in by toner and not by a writing implement. So was your request to look at those ballots. Your lawsuit to look at those ballots. All ballots that you personally had a reason to question as well as the ballots. That were in that video Any material ballots came in through. The mail is that correct. Yeah that's exactly right. Monica and so basically all of the ballots in question our mail in ballots so men's a couple of hundred thousand deaths right about one hundred fifty some thousand and i don't have the exact number in front of but we will. Yes those are the ones that are in question and the number. It's only there trump supposedly loss georgia by less than twelve thousand votes. That's right around twelve thousand now that our twelve thousand six hundred seventy that. I've heard that it was even less than that. But you're right okay. So you were suing to get a so. There's two important things about the lawsuit that you filed. You were suing to get to be able to examine those yourselves and you you one important thing was that you were suing on behalf of other citizens for violation of your constitutional rights because your vote was diluted by what may have would have been diluted if these ballots. Were inauthentic correct. That's exactly right and then the big news was that you were going to have a hearing. This is what we talked about on the weekend. You're going to have a hearing on monday. Which was yesterday january fourth with a judge you felt had integrity so you had high hopes monday night. You would be examining those ballots That's right we did have pretty high. Hobbs and That one went in that kind of went south. So his what happened on that the We were very careful to make sure that this was not an election contest because we knew that it we got thrown out right away so what we did was when i mean that you are careful that you were making you are contesting the election. That's exactly right because we were well past the five day limit and this is the end it would have been immediately thrown out. Got it so you have a couple of good lawyers who are fighting the good fight along with you right. Yes in fact the more and more joining us every day and every week they wanna be off this because it's going to be historic present. Yes it's the last gas for any kind of faith in the system. As far as i'm concerned thanks to so with that so the you didn't get that hearing yesterday. Well his his what we re don't know for sure about what what we do know is it was transferred out of the atlanta judicial district Either because the judge did not wanna hear it or the chief. Judge didn't want her to hear it. Our for whatever reason wanted to get it out of the The atlanta judicial circuit which includes home county. So we were excited But excuse us to get it out was that it was an election contest. Come election contest has to be moved out of the judicial circuit in which it is has been filed So and that's for. Make sure that it's not. There's no partiality so that would have been a stupid mistake for you to make even if it weren't election contest to file it in the same county will. I would have probably made the mistake. But add got fortunate. We have a good attorney. Try and he said you do not want to mention anything about results in this rossin answered because they will call it an election contest. And then you're going to be out on the street. So he crafts to avoid this issue exactly that. Why some of the other cases got thrown out So brad i think every case is unique in in some of them are getting thrown out for reasons which i don't take her valid You know if the president doesn't have standing who are would has danny. If the if you didn't stays on election one case was tossed because of that was sydney's case part of that had to standing a lot. Some of the other issues were that the claims were kind of terek And that's that's fair of for the judge Woods case was not as strong had had some issues with it Refined that case is a better that probably better than theirs. Because it's incredibly precise. Basically it's anybody can understand. It were saying they're fraudulent ballots and we need to inspected. Here's the evidence. We have exhibit for every fact So can really dispute at kay's They can't question standing because we have voters inside and outside of folks county around state all claiming equal protection violations process. We have all been records. Request their onto veiled. They're gonna try to get around that But but we have. I think we've probably the strongest case in re kind of joke about it. We have always had powered attorneys doing all this stuff. And then we got a rag tag group of players in iraq tag attorney and case is still alive and. We think that we're gonna get a favorable motion tomorrow afternoon. 'cause there's no excuse not to go forward with some transparency in letting the balance the available to the public so this is You sent out an update today that that you are granted remote hearing wednesday january. Six th at four. Pm there's a link so it's remote so people can't show up but there's a link on the voter j. events tab what you receive it will be there so people want to check tomorrow. Wednesday gender six four. Pm eastern they can go to voter. J. dot org on the events tab and find the link to that remote hearing right. That's right as long as it's public we will be public We have not gotten doing from court yet. Maybe just said this. But it says here Judge marrow of henry county. So it's in henry county but what is that. Is it federal. Now it's a state case right And it will be We thought it was going to coweta county with judge kirby but He was retired. Which is i think that would have been is well as also but it ended up there. We were First of all upset by the fact that they tried to call an election ask and then because now we have to object to it being called an election contest. And it's only in henry county because you called it an election contest because they called it an election contest right because fulton county in order to get rid of it. Fulton county called an election contest. So that got out of their district. I don't think they wanted to handle it. Because it was a political hap- I don't trust henry county. I can think of three cases maybe four off the top of my head that i was have always been suspicious of in henry county. But okay i don't know this judge I'm a little bit worried about that too. Because of the former dean came out of there. But i guess i always the former da. While i find that mistake in one of the former day the as was checks payoffs who was also one of the guys behind the no knock. Search gad allows no knock searches. I think he was out of henry. But i'll have to check. I can't remember. I have a few there. Definitely some skeletons. I found in henry county but all right so if the guy grants you the inspection you said that you could see it as early as thursday but more likely friday yeah. I don't think it's realistic to think of ever hearing from four to six and then start in the morning. I'm thankful gonna require a tab to prepare and quite honestly. I think we should too so if i think it'd be more realistic to do with friday. Fulton may wanna try to saturday so and we probably would not object too much if they decided that so that opens a couple more questions for me first of all just to more than i know. Basically has some too but first of all there was a point at which you thought that faulting county perhaps did not have all the ballots. And i've been wondering who has them and do you believe that they are they. They have been preserved in. They are where they're supposed to be. Where are you worried about that at all while. Yeah we're definitely worried about it. That's for sure we're worried that they could have been tampered west. In the meantime we're worried You know that there's been reports dines shred and that sort of thing i don't really think those are credible. I don't think anybody's gonna shred balancing the warehouse. And if they did. They took them away. There could be legitimate ballots. Intrepid which are ones that are not unused That's right that's not. That might be okay. He actually want the theoretically you want those to be shredded shredding media on us they should have been shredded right there in front of people in front of you know whatever says they were on us but okay yes know right so they did We do not that. They did shreds of balance. But we don't think that at least we hope that it was not the ones that we're gonna look at rethink. It was the black ones. What will know where we get there. Who's watching who's watching them. Are they under. Lock and key is their camera though. I mean seriously. It's a physical problem. We have our own. A few independent is on that warehouse so But i mean like twenty four seven. It would have to be right really run. It needs to be But yeah it's a. It's a fair question. What we've done is we have a lot of chain of custody techniques in place so in fact i'll send you the ballot inspection plan on. Oh good amir's it's not really a so accessible like you send me at am. I can understand it completely. I love that. If i can share it can share. Yeah yeah i'm reminded of a punt. Put it up voter. Gee i haven't done that yet. But yellow certainly should be available when we do it so everybody can see what we're gonna day but there's a lot of custody checks. We're actually have a chain of custody farm. It's kind of manage this and that's terrific They're independent formed unilab. They did a little work in. Antrim county michigan fat so they'll they'll be managing. They've already reviewed the plan with me and made some suggestions. they made. Some great suggestions included all of their suggestions. And we have agreed on. Exactly what we're gonna do and then we'll just a matter of doing it and is so We're just happy matter of getting that approval. Okay so what if it happens on saturday and congress and the senate have resolved their issues already and the end they certified you think that what i mean. Do you have an opinion of what might be happening in congress this week or I know you said you thought they'd be kind of wrangling over it. Wednesday thursday and friday. Does that mean you think on friday will be certified for biden or do you have an opinion on the outcome. And how does that affect what you're doing. Monica is a really great question. But i honestly don't know this is so unpredictable. Where uncharted territory on a territory. That we probably haven't crossed since that eight colline having dyslexia showers greuther behaved saying. Oh tell them that. We talked about before so it's very unpredictable in it might be over on friday. I don't know what's going to happen. We were hoping to get the information. You know some information. That congress could use your. If it's too late. I who knows what's going to happen. Are they going to. Could there could end up in the supreme court could we don't know could could could legislate your resent their electoral buzzing. Could georgia resentment there. There's so many are alpern on. I answer questions at this town. I forgot to do the right thing. I love that. You are really not concerned with that. Because i notice on the front page above the fold wall street journal today it said there are some gop. Some gop senators congressman or whatever who are going to object to certifying the electoral votes even though they have absolutely no chance of success. That's what it says. Not in a quote or anything in the wall street journal. That's their news coverage. Is that any objection to this. Process has no hope of success. Of course the only reason to do that is to discourage people like you from pursuing v actual process so. It's probably a good thing that you don't that you don't look too hard at that stuff because the media is trying so hard to discourage people like you from gung ho or were. You learned a long time to go to never to look at the media. That's why that's why you show so popular. Yes yes i can see a lot. Half the listeners of this show are from those days so actually. That's why i'm interested in. What's happening in georgia. But basically what was your. I think you wanted to ask. Not a couple of things i did. Just look it up. The henry county district attorney. He's in an article from two thousand sixteen in wall street journal article or two thousand two thousand sixteen that is about how george soros is funding local prosecutor races and according to the wall street journal. He did get a thousand nine thousand. I would not be very much a hundred thousand dollars. Which for george soros is it too terribly much but he did get some from sources clinical action committee so he has part of that group of local prosecutors in place because sore so there would be some concern there as you expressed earlier. But this is. I think this just depends on the judge. I think henry county is. I've had really bad vibes coming outta henry. County and trump has been promoting a lot of theories of other people. Theories have probably aren't the best arguments to make. He's kind of throwing a bunch against the wall. Have they been promoting. What you guys are doing. Have you heard that nationally going on because that is what. I think probably should be advertised more than some of these theories. That aren't likely to pan out. Well yeah so. That's a good question. And above by the way motlaq is right. This just belongs to the judge. The district attorney of of henry county is involved in it is So that's a that's a good thing so Yes so what's what's going on nationally. I think a lot of the focus was on the dominion machines and the china connections had to do with the fact that That's a a national security issue Which the president has a special powers that he could choose to implement if he determined that that in fact did happen and that i think that's part of the reason why a lot of the focus was on the dominion software and the Impossible find connections with it. So i it is interesting. How that They have not pursued this angle. Which to me is the most effective angle for the trump campaign to to pursue particular. A not just george but also in pennsylvania where the truck down a hundred thousand ballots. There will obviously fraudulent. And there's eight thousand vote difference up. There's something like that now So why not do the same thing in pennsylvania that they had done that we're doing here is it because you know the attorneys getting thank of that or is there just not a an active citizen group there. That just took it upon himself to do that like we did here. I i really don't know i'm kind of fascinated as to why this approach that we're using for this isn't been used nationally. Yeah it seems to me that they're going more for the public relations information war angle than the actual promoting the legal pursuits. That you guys are doing the could actually pan out. Yeah i think you're you're right and break is obviously it can work both ways because we did what we saw was the right legal thing ought to do and that has exploded nationally The we have a complete blackout here locally with the lame stream media but nationally. Everybody's crawling all over what we're doing so you know conservative. News media circles so yes an interesting interesting point. Let me ask you. I don't know how much you know about grad rothlisberger. I was looking him up last night because one of the stories about the trump phone. Call the cnn and other they say trump said all these lies trump claimed that rapid sperber has a brother named ron rothenberg or who works for way the chinese tech company trump never actually said that specifically they projected that because trump said his brother has china connections in. There's a guy who works for. Wally named ron ravensburger who is not related. Who is not related to brad. Raffles burger and the media said that trump said that even though he didn't and then they said rathbun's burger does have another brother but they didn't say his name. They very vaguely mitch. And he's a private citizen. Which made me interested in his other brother. And i learned that his other brother lives in canada. Name is quinton wrappings burger. It looks like he's kind of been deleted from the internet. I learned that his sister is anti-trump. She hates trump. She tweets about her hate of trump's she has for years and i learned it. Robbins burger went to a school in canada for college. He went to the university of western ontario. Which is ranked two hundred and one in the world is most prestigious universities. It's starting to appear to me that ravensburger might be a secret democrat do. Do you know anything about that about him. I don't will actually. Here's what i know. I know that we sat down with brad when he was in the republican primary and Running against to david bell on the runoff and we explained to him. Here's the consistence and hear the bad systems. What you don't want is assisted. That accumulates votes that are hidden in barco. Because it's one hundred percent unbear- kabul to divider. He took out the information A and he ignored it. Yeah and he got a couple of dollars the system. That's one Voter so i know i can pick up the story from that point I know that he did not know anything about sectors states office When he decided to run for that position i back. Why did he start. His engineer of of he has issuing company a company. I called a phone number of the company. Today it's it's not connecting exist anymore. Yeah why did bankruptcy once. And he put a million dollars into this race and he literally bought. He literally bought the office. I remember us supporting. Who was it that we that you were supporting because you told you you informed us about this election before it happened Josh macrae was obvious. Choice to be secretary Josh kerns understood the office Back in four teas a lawyer. He actually had a quite a few Now bipartisan nonpartisan support. I know some significantly Strong progressives that actually liked him because he he was all about fair elections The had impeccable integrity incredible knowledge. Any was an attorney in a. We were never been the situation that we're in now. Had josh mccann been secretary of state But it yeah brad box office. He literally Eastern a million dollars in that primary David bell al came second. Would it's been a half many josh beckett about a quarter million and brockway spent a back Half of that. And that's exactly the way they finished according to the amount of money that they spat on. So i ask brad brad. You're pretty well off. Where do you want his job. I you know everything if you do something right. Nobody knows maybe some wrong. Everybody knows your chris. I never could get a get a straight answer out of him during the right thing. But i don't think he's a closet democrat I think you know he has incredibly strong conservative. Voted record But it is. I think it's not necessarily the republican democrat that i think it's basically that people compromised from empower regardless of what air political stances are as. I think that's where it goes wrong. It's all that lobbies money so in particular the inviting seems system vendor because they can basically promise you that you'll get reelected they can deliver on that promise by vegas funny. That trump kind of teased us in that direction with this phone call. Frankly told us he said to him. Oh you're gonna it's gonna come out while you're doing this so that kinda gives you this you know it's it's so trump to feel like what's behind that door no so maybe there is. Something usually leave behind the door with trump. And it's it's probably not gonna make a difference. I'll tell you the thing about. His brother's is what really stood out to me. Because the news was very specific in describing. No trop thinks that. This ron ravnsborg. Who works for weiwei is his brother but he's not even though trump never said that trump said his brother is linked to china and they were vague and this guy might actually look into the universities of what he went to. Trump might not be wrong. Yeah no. I think there's something behind that door yet. Basically so that's brianna graduate. You mentioned that because that's the kind of real investigative research thanking that should that other researchers should do. Yeah that's what the news media should be doing. And you had the presence of mind to realize that. Brad's got another brother that they're not talking about and that's who we should be looking at and see you you while the very few wants. That would have had opened that box so gradu- comes to. I'm anxious to hear what you felt. Yeah we'll see what happens and then you heard it here. I should mark the date and then go back and say see. I told you i heard of here. I i want to read you a text from a friend of mine who said Just right before we went to air. The steel is on. My brother just voted in sandy springs. Which is very conservative. The voting machines are down so they just took his paper ballot. Okay so she said that to me. That's my friend. I know her. i know her brother. There's no question in my mind. That is true and but i pretty. What she didn't know was previous to that. I had re tweeted at tweet. Jj boogie tweeted at me. That said john. Fredericks was on steve. Bannon's show called war room pandemic or something of hers since strange. Yeah and he said that there were There were voting machines down not only in sandy springs but also in newton and columbia trump. County polling possibly. But what's one little interesting thing about. When i tweeted that of is twitter put up an exclamation mark and a warning sign on that tweet on that article that says this claim about election. Fraud is disputed so they made it look like that claim was disputed and at the same time i got a text verifying one of the claims in their About sandy springs. So i don't know you've heard about any of this garland. Yes so. I was checking on a couple of times as just before the show. Now what we do know that. There was a massive failure in columbia county down near augusta There were five precincts totally down down there And i'm going to tell you what they were gospel. Water back his church. Stevens creek community church augusta christian schools second mount carmel church and quite church presbyterian. All were day on interested in that they're all churches gonna say all of those polling places are churches and they're all down that's totally conservative area right. I guess god does that kind of corruption in his house of worship right. He's just turned. The tables over is through polling. That's a good point so traffic. Very conservative area is not a very conservative republicans in the suburbs of augusta and as a side to laugh about turning the tables. That's yeah yeah exactly with him. Money changes or changes in this chair. Exactly but hey it's getting that. I don't think that story is going to get out. I'm not saying that Well interested but it did. It did get out enough for the secretary of state to to issue a press release on so. I thought that this would. This is going to be interesting. You might want to Hear what he had to say. That then i have a few thoughts on dow. Think you'll find interesting so he he's telling about how wonderful this is running smoothly runoff election running smoothly across the state and and this leads in his his his press. Release that the senate runoff election. Georgia's ryan smoothly throughout the stead with no reports of long lines. Wait times average. Just one minute at polling locations through the peach state so it goes on to talk about The ali reported issues occurred in columbia. county georgia. Of course we already know that. That's not true because because you are brad. Jewelry reported sandy springs is having problems at least sandy springs my plob- counters. So actually she just sent me another tax saying that. Her best friend's dad had the same problem. Sandy springs. so i'm just saying there's two reports for brad wants to claim that there's no reports i got to four right Yeah exactly and those of the just what we know so far And he says. I no pointed voting stop. Voters continue to cast votes on emergency ballots in accordance with the procedures set up. George alana's true. That's what they do bring machine data. That's that's nothing wrong with that. So now he goes on to describe what happened. He says in columbia county a small number of the keys that start up the paper ballots. Scanners were programmed incorrectly. Additionally a few poll worker cards were programmed incorrectly. Meaning sound poll. Workers were unable to start the touchscreen buddy cheese used for paper ballot voting. The correct keys in voter cards were delivered to the relevant precincts with a law enforcement. Escort issues were resolved by ten. Am so i think big players already figured he's gonna probably say at the same question that i would ask him angry looking at this. Why would these machines tested ahead tab. They were brought into the president and they did work. They weren't program. Correct me had to be reprogrammed on the spot. Why did why wasn't this kat. In logic and accuracy testing that's supposed to be performed on these machines prior to being used on election day out. So were these machines. Just an echo last minute like Happened in spalding. County and One or two of the other counties. And how can you be certain if they were updated the last minute if they're going to work properly throughout the whole process exactly now i i bet you probably still brad's thunder and beheading. I would have asked all those same crash courses. Of course. I know you're one of the answers. We don't know that ad. The question is will we ever know will we. Will the secretary of state allow a forensic exam of these books and these dominion buddy machines because he is fought this in every county. That has had problems. Like this spalding. Coffee wear out floyd Every every every time this has come up in november he has protected dominion and tempted to get elections directors fired or investigated or threatening them with a ladder Amazing that he continued to do so. I i would expect the same thing to be done here. aber discussed no forensic exam and they will discontinue to try to Probably go after the elect director of try to blame some human for the voting system problem. I very curious in keeping with the idea of like what's his brother up to. whatever. I wanna see where. Reference burger is three years from now five years from now. Governorships bars now. I'm thinking oh i don't think so. I think he's going to be promoted. He's gonna be ran bars behind bars behind bars as he's going to have a higher elected position or he's going to have a nicer house in any case. That's my that's my prediction. I'm not using anything. I'm just saying that's what to watch out for. He might get a nicer house. But he's politically dead I think has no hope in the republican party. There's gifts are you would not just so much contempt for brad rapids burger right now. It's unbelievable in fact you can become a democrat though those democrat democrat if the democrats win the senate i mean that is going to be some fun need business because georgia is really majority republicans. And it's just it's the art exce- they aren't looking into stuff. The evidence is there that you guys have uncovered then. There's little reason to trust the outcome of what happens today. Which i'm sure we will know what happens today until at least tomorrow or maybe even later than that while you're right Basically i mean that's why would you trust who's going to win. We're water about who's going to cheat. And are they going to get caught and would the dominion machines actually count correctly. I mean these are the questions that to me or bigger than the election because you know as we said before on the show is the the the feeling right. Now is the so many of our volunteers who are so frustrated with Quite frankly they all came from the gop muslim. Most part question is if if if they could steal the presidential election and get away with it surely they could stale the center ice. Why why would they. And why could they steal any race in the future of georgia elections Nothing is left. That could be stolen if i earn kind of lost faith in the voting but knowing you for so long i put you know what i mean. He's fighting the fight like he knows that. It's there's use in filing these lawsuits. I mean he's probably holding their feet to the fire with some good results. This is gonna be. This is going to be the end of that. Little little ray of hope for me but i also think question and i have so questions from listeners. If we can get some cuban i so you got what else you have. basically. And then. I'm going to switch over. I was curious if you had listened to that audio call between trump and rafters burger. I did get to listen to that. What did you think. I thought that they Sectors date was They were just kind of him in hard on the stick with their line of trump trump kept asking questions for which there are no answers and he tried to say you know he would ask them. What about the scanning Of the ballots. They you can see on the video that was scanning them over and over again. This game at least three times. Same bows so ryan. Germany speaks out. He's they legal counsel for the secretary of state's office at the same guy. Who did the cover. Up of the kennesaw state exposure back in two thousand seventeen. We were talking about the two page superficial report. The redid a whole fourteen paid steady onto previews united was false so ryan Speak saw and he's trying to say that while they had audit trail They check the audit trail the end they weren't scanned three times will look. I can see the video ad i can say that. They were scanned three times and multiple people. Scan in three towns so that tells me that the audit trail on the dominion. She's is also broken that they're not they don't they didn't have the audit trail set up correctly. So we're going to if we get these ballot images we'll we'll also get the cast out rikers. We'll be able to determine if in fact the audit trail was Somehow subverted on top of that. Because i know what massa and they did. They didn't allow that that editor. That's the film is not been edited. I came from state farm so probably i believe it's still at the state farm arena. I think they're just using it so so obviously they are lying or they are at least deceiving at the and there is still uncovered biden and trump continues to ask these questions and he can't get any answers and it's just unbelievable he. I thought the question was interesting or is an obvious question when he asked about lives. You guys do the audit of cobb county instead of fulton county. Why did you go there. Why would you info county right. Why wasn't it public. Yeah yeah. I mean these. These are the questions that people of the state of georgia one another. They asked the same. Wasn't this company. We were very frustrated when it wasn't found what public why they audited caught a cop exactly basically yeah not not fulton which has had. That's where all the problems seem today. So i i did want to audit them because they don't want to find out what's really there. Sure seems that way. I will say sandy springs where you have got reports of some issues is the home of georgia's church scientology so well that might be unrelated by. Maybe it's well it's also now is the home of the The value systems implementation managers. Well gabriel stern interesting. I tweeted him into replying to me to take a while. I kind of sent the hornets damn like. Why are you certifying. Purdue and ballots. Haven't been but he. He said it was just a technicality. Whatever honor so what. I ask them was. Why are you saying why are you. Declaring a runoff. When only ninety nine percent of the votes have been counted and purdue if he gets that last one percent he will not need a run off and he said because they we know the answer. Something like that. So i don't want to misquote him but he did finally answer what we hoped to found the answer to that friday because if we do find a lot of fraud then we're going to be raising the question. Why are we having in. Run off if purdue actually won because of the and when we find if these ballots are impacting An progress you one request Comes while we have in the runoff. It is runoff even legal. So the runoff today. And they're already because of these problems which we know are happening. They're already talking about possibly disputing or delaying. The results of this as well and i you know i know we don't know the answer because these are unprecedented times. By of course it will be a sticky if they they announced that often purdue only later to find that and a number of the ballots were fraudulent and to call that into question. I mean i wonder if the if congress and senate a certify this while they say well what's done is done it doesn't matter there's no further recourse and then you've got real civil strife on your hands. Yeah you know i. I really don't have a dog in the us senate rights but it would be because we're in competition party but it would be poetic justice if that happened. When if i if if the democrats won now it would it. Would it be poetic justice if if ossoff one and then we found out that the election november third election was The runoff was initiated based on fraudulent ballots and therefore we have to retract the entire runoff. After asaf one. I bet they would have more traction with their lawsuit saying that. This this In today's election superseded the other one you know. I think they would put up a fight. But you're right there would be no. I mean no logical reasons and valid at this election. But i do have a couple of questions wine jim asks. Are you convinced that if you see the fulton county ballot images you will see obvious fraud. Yes would be so. That's a great question. I'm glad jim it will be. I personally convinced. That is gonna be so obvious that we do not even need a forensic exam i will be the indicators the obvious indicators oh these are the ones that we've talked about before. Basically i know you out one show during christmas because you actually had to have some time off with your family which like most people should have for the holidays but we. We talked about the fact that this three three giveaways on these one is that they're male balance and they are not creased so they weren't mail and number two is that they were supposed to be hand marked but they're not marked by ten or pencil. They is some kind of a tunnel copying indication and three as the paper. Stock appears to their very end. They may or may not be a on valid papers. Talk so those. Are the cats offense that we would be looking for in the balanced and respect that these are. There's a lot of them. I mean tend to thousands. We thank you know if we get to look angry. Thank there's more than the margin of victory and we think that they are all for biden it or off and so we're anxious to see them and so everybody can nokia sure did not won legitimately or not So and that's even before you get into forensic exam the french the president will tell you even more stuff will be able to detect with the naked eye but these are appear to be obviously Fraudulent that's the only thing i can cite That's why we're willing to spend our money in around town and Whether it takes to ensure that in fact this the jet is election gibb if those three indicators are produced is there a counter argument that they're going to have to say well. Here's why it's like that and why it's still legitimate. Are you aware of one. Yes beautiful question. gable sterling went on tv yesterday claim versus pack and he mentioned. There are three types of Ballots that would actually did kind of match up to what you're saying that he mentioned that there are emergency ballast which we just talked about. He mentioned that there are your your kaba about which military and overseas ballots. That are could be the case that might have these kinds of characteristics and I'm trying to black. There was a third type of gallow educated. Of course judicata balance would be the third tab about that would not have these characteristics reno for an absolute sack that those this is not the case in either one of those three. I'm already in fact. I've already given the attorney's information Today which i'm gonna hold for you until the show on saturday. But we now for a fact that everything they gave sterling said today could not possibly excuse what we saw and rehab. Irrefutable circumstance evidence that will will bring out in the courtroom tomorrow if bay and on friday if we forget the inspection so by the next time we do show which i think is sunday. Vm sunday at two pm will be able to tell you. I'll walk through all those why it's not. What gable stern claims were i. We're gonna live that on youtube. And then put it up on the podcast. But i have a few or questions. Sure i'm to now if anything has been put in place to prevent future shenanigans like what's happening in fulton both with regards to the runoff. Today i don't think there i mean you can tell me but also for future elections any corrections. It sounds like we're on the same shenanigans. So a yeah yeah. You're always right as nothing's been done. You're right monaco. Nothing nothing has been going to be done For this election is just as wide open for the last one. And nothing really ask concede being done in the future. What was interesting. The added get a call on new year's day from the chairman of the former house. Technology committee said. Hey we're wanted to get your input for the next session. We think there's some changes that need to be mad to and i ask growing up. I appreciate you calling but said you know. Just go back and look at the report. We gave you two three years ago for the safeguarding. Says the commissioner. We made all those changes. We run right down to the code level. The election code will recharge a exactly what needed to be done to prevent this catastrophe lab. Today it's all hair. No unverifiable equipment. Shout amount of transparency. We've met with remarked up to code sections and with the exact code language that we knew how the legislature so. It's like dot com you now and tommy that e. n. Well that's because now you're concern. Because i had another question from scott his says i'm curious if any local news has contacted garland's Especially since he's right. The court seem to have procedure over her. The truth i'm in what's in the legislation and the adjudication by so now this guy can say i've seen this game before. This guy can say that. I talked to you. He asked your input. People aren't going to put together a time line. And he's not going to tell them what you said an answer too little too late et cetera. But now he gets a little cover like communicate with garland ring a great question by scott. I love these questions. The yes there is a complete local blackout blackout on this question. the elections. It's really bizarre monica. Because it's a total blackout. Had an i. I have a lot of good contacts in local. I know that they used to come to this. When we first followed our lawsuit two thousand six. We had a room full of everybody. Who's who the local news media in two thousand six as a total blackout on this issue. i remember when you used to be on my show. You would often becoming smith show from another show. Well yeah so. That's was ironic about this monica. So so is the total local blackout. But yet yesterday i did five national inner knowledge. That's great live all down along. I was just flipping say and and the attorneys there. The national concern nationals is all over this toss. Yeah last night. I was on lou dobbs. It was you know. It's it's as max major job epoch times. They're all the national news media. You only local news source. Who cares so so. I would ask god in the listeners. Go and i'll send you by news media contact with you probably have one. Go and ask your news media fox email them right them collins. Why is it that. I have to get my georgia election news about what's really going from monica paresh. Show the people say well. She's a conspiracy not so don't mention my name. You should ask them why they're not talking to. You can answer that question. It's we're not getting funded by the google news. News initiative like a lot of the local newspapers are currently doing their censored. Because of that. Yes i believe so. That's an interesting subject to hear more about that at some point in time he okay so i do. We should just special on match We have we should rockin video on that There's somebody who's expressing a thought that. I've gotten a lot of messages like this. You're a fan favorite garland's so an old grizzly bear says i just kindred spirits. I want garland say state stay safe. He's entirely too honest and knowledgeable any use of politicians. He is an absolute treasure. So mega does on that make out. hours over at a mutual friend's house cancer pornographer. A day party. I couple people come up to me and they say okay look Out anything you need will come in the middle of the night. Whatever you need just let me know and literally what parts of that met before didn't have their contact information. Yeah she put oliver stuff contact And said communist signed Outcome over will sit outside your housing obser-. She was packing the quite a few cents. But i have had people for insight. Okay look if you need to get out of your house for the night And come over here. you know. that's fine come over here. We got all the supplies needed year. We're packing so. Have you been getting threads not not a one. I've not gotten a single threat. Yeah well then media blackout is keeping you safe. It's true it's true. That's what i always thought i was like. No what do people like. Oh you're going to make it big and white. God forbid god's will that. I make it big will i did have somebody's spoof. My facebook profile just yesterday and they're sitting out some kind of garbage and pretending that they're mid wow that is so new knowledge and so what lynnwood is doing. New knowledge was the company. That undermined roy moore by getting a third party or a a republican spoiler to try to split the ticket by pretending to be you know fraudulently pretending fantasies. They were not on facebook and twitter facebook. So you're i that is not. That's not a one off thing is my guess I do have a few more questions if we can wait or shall soon all right. I'm this i having pretty good. I'm pretty well far hammer by about inspection plants that i could spend okay all right. I wanna see that. Okay so joel asks. Why do you think raffin sperber avoided. Trump's question on the fulton vs cobb cobb ravitch's burger is a straight shooter. Does he have things to hide. What would they be if so he's pulling this stuff from that trump called trump's at all his stuff up ran who is jordi. Fuchs jordan fuchs. The assistant secretary of state that was brought in She worked in a landmark communications and she worked on his campaign and he brought her e n no experience in running elections but a lot of experience in deception. So she she was brought in to be on assistant secretary of state. She's not qualified so But she's very good at a public nikkei shins in keeping people misinform so Brad is not a straight shooter. He pretends save same. Flacco straight shooter but behind the scenes. He's ran himself with people that are not credible And he knows better. He knows the good apples from the bad apples because we tell day before he ever even got the job. I tell them these people. You can't trust and these people are you can so again the annoyed. Wow that camps people in in play. I just kept. He retained all camps people. So gosh Breads compromised. We don't really know. why are you. Maybe maybe Maybe the president does. We don't know if it's if it's china or dominion or what but obviously he's not operating in the best interest of the people instead of georgia and really hasn't been since he got elected. Yeah that's well put. I mean that's the purpose of the pudding i always. It's starting to look like he was transplanted here for planet mike cursory research on him. It's starting to look like he was transplanted here to do a job. And maybe this. What's he before canada. From where you grew up largely in canada with the collagen canas brother still is canada. Well businesses front organizations to me high. So if you talk with. Mrs like a nice guy but is just His action Cloud reading actions speak louder than words. Okay gary wants to know. And i think this is the fight you're fighting. Why have the original ballots never been made available for authentication and i think that's the firefighting right. Well yeah these are fabulous questions. So the transparency georgia's has no transparency in their elections. The ballots are sealed as soon as certified. I made an open records requests for before they were certified the recount they certified the recount on december fourth amount requested on december. Third at eight thirty. Am select. let us see these ballots. There's too many questions involved in nord My request and that was the foci elections boy. The film candidate elections director. The fulton county elections attorney fulton county open. Records should press process before elections. They all got my e email and none of them responded so So the the problem is that there's no transparency in georgia elections of probably the states as well the wants to balance sealed. You can never get them reopened you. The you have to have a court order and one time out. Think i told you this story. Monaco show one of the us district congressional candidates. Michael opus wanted to see all ballots. He filed a lawsuit against Adler cobb the elections director out there to see his own ballots his own eleventh district. Us congressional rise because he didn't believe the results so we figured while at least you could see all the absentee ballots. Get some idea of the machines actually counted correctly and he was denied. The ad and the judge out there ruled that a candidate does not have a compelling interest to see the balance of their own congressional race. That was judge adele grabs. Who was a golf in some other incredibly controversial and corrupt decisions as well and because to elections have not the candidate home. Exactly if he doesn't have standing who had standing. Well the only possible answer would be someone like you. Who's voting that. Who's suing the at the constitutional right to vote is diluted but i not right to custody state true. He probably should have been joined by a constituent that might have helped his case That's a good point. I can think about that. Okay there. I have like a whole slew of hatred questions. Some of which you've already answered so. I'm going to skip those one wants to know i would like to why voting laws were allowed to be changed when it's clear in the constitution that that is supposed to come from state legislatures don't actually know that. Is she talking about the The melan yes. She's talking about the consent decree and so here's right okay. Yeah he was my take on it and we. We talked about this several times house house. Bill three sixteen doesn't require explicitly. State hal match can be made a signature match. It always says signature match must be done so a secretary. Ravensburger is gonna to argue. And i think i actually have to agree with him on this one that he has some leeway in determining How that signature matches performed and within the constraints of law. So i i think he does have that assadi however what i think lynnwood could have argued probably more effectively is that it was such a tremendous reduction from about. I think they had about three point. Three was percents rejection rate data point three percent i think it was even worse than fulton county so i think that they could argue that. It completely subverted the requirement to to match signatures. And maybe that would have some standing there. But apparently the the court did the by that so The process feels through suit at which is is said Length does mattis quite as strong as some of the other. Now that i see with these patron questions. A lot of them are looking for a place as to get more information to dig in. So i'm going to rattle off a few of them and then maybe you can tell us the answer. There is the says. How can we track what's happening. And what especially with the georgia senate hearings Did anything come of the georgia state judiciary committee reports. I don't know what that is. Let's keep going here. I'm are these legal. There's another question from kiel. Are these investigations or legal proceedings were recorded and published or livestreams for public consumption. We talked about the one tomorrow. and then Yeah so go ahead. Yes resources so going back to the hearings All the hearings are up on. Pj dot org events tab and you can see the full set hearings the full house hearings. You can see my testimony and so everything you need to know about. The hearings are on veggie dot org evinced tab. Okay okay oh so. People can all those proceedings and everything. Yeah and how about that. Thirteen page report. That was a great one from a couple of years ago. If people wanna dig into the kemp shenanigans and it now that you mentioned that all those can people are still in the house. I think in the state secretary of state's office. I think that might be interesting. That is up there. I think and i and yes. You do the forensic plan the news tab. Okay if you like to see them to okay. And then ashley wanted to know if there's ever been a precedent for this type of issue in the time that you've been working on election integrity. Have you ever seen anything like this before. We haven't This is that's a wonderful question. This is unprecedented. I'd never seen anything like this before in georgia and this case tomorrow i think is an unprecedented case nationally. I don't know of anybody that i can think of in national elections integrity group massey to nationally. I don't know about another case. Where a bunch of poll workers or voters has stood up and said hey. We have evidence of fraudulent balance. And we want you to show us the balance and we're filing a lawsuit we're going to force you to show the balance. I don't know of another case where this has ever happened. So it's gonna be I think a landmark case and scott a lot of national attention and after Tomorrow and this rest of this week. It's probably gonna get almost as much tension as the debates in congress so because everybody's gonna be focusing on determining whether or not this. These facts are fraudulent ballots as we thank. They are so Not as a great question. I think it's unprecedented okay. I've got one thing. I wanna this. I'll wrap this and then basically you can Whatever else you have her guard everyone else. You have to say by. Dave says he said a lot of stuff. He's kind of funny says buy some popcorn. This is a show. He says the system. Yeah i know. The system is a complete fraud and always has been and trump was scwhab and continues to be one now. I want to comment on that and you can choose. What but i agree with him. I do think that the system is totally corrupt. I believe trump is asya. And and for me. And i i know garland and i neither of us are trump supporters. So that that it's not that we're trying to get trump back in. Its that and this leads me to the second point. I'd like to make is it's. It's the election integrity. Yes dave says that it is corrupt. A fried and i have always believed that but since i have no new garland i have thought you know. This guy is immersed in the process and maybe might time would be better spent. Just doing what he is doing. Maybe if we all just did with garland is doing and hold the feet to the fire with the process. According to the laws they really couldn't get away with so much so for me. That was always that one little ray of hope that one little can check that. I thought what you were doing was the only real answer and so for me. The outcome here is extremely critical. Like this is it for me. So i know i already said that but i did want to address dave's point because i don't think i'm not. We're not addressing the fact that the corruption could be total but i think this will prove whether whether it is if it is total will known this time around. You know i think that's the biggest takeaway from today's show is what he just said. Is that we as voters read are so concerned about who wins. But we're not concerned about the process if we could readjust yourself and To stop focusing so much on who's winning and who's gonna supported his the process correct And who's which candace a want a good processor which can is down. I think that would be tremendous at night is one of the best comments. I've heard in a long time. So i think i totally totally agree with that. Except except i would prefer junior over popcorn. If we're gonna have completely agree. Popcorn gash overrated. I used to smoke in. The theater is just gave away my age. I remember smoking cigarettes. I waste my time with junior mints. you no. I don't smoke anymore. Garland i'm totally different person. I'm a grown. So but yes on a light note. That's good too and so we will ask one more quick area. Go go ahead. What are your thoughts on. What's going to happen tomorrow in congress when they go to certify electors or to object in them has many said they will. I think there's going to be a lot of objections. There's going to be a lot of debate. And i don't know where that's gonna go if states can agree on who their electors are I i. I don't know i don't know that. The the state delegations can override what the legislature day then. I've heard that the can i. It's a great question. We're in such uncharted waters. Really don't know where how this is gonna apply. It could take twists and turns it. We haven't even anticipated yet. So that's what i expect. Yeah that's what i was gonna say there. That's the answer. The answer is i mean even if it were to unfold organically we would know where it was going and i oftentimes. I see something common. I figure somebody's got a trick up their sleeves. And i just never know what that trick is if i could figure it out then i mean it wouldn't be that tricky but i but i always feel like and i can't help but notice that there was all that build up to shock and awe on election day. There was all that build up about things. They're going to have rioting whatever and yeah they they fake us out with that stuff and so while but i you know they could have been could still have you know. We had a very violent twenty twenty. They could be set up that way with these. The trump rally tomorrow and through teeth. And everybody going to be there. it's the antique. I hate that really not you know. I am not just reading newspaper. I know people who've been to the trump rallies and one in dc and said we were all completely peaceful and these weirdos all in plaque just came being inappropriately obnoxious you know. Total agents provocateur. Total profess also moved here. When i win at the tail end of one of these. Stop steal things. And i've been. I did march against obamacare and i remember being really emotionally reacting to people who were provoking me until a more experienced activists said. Oh yeah don't let them get you. That's what they're trying to do. And you gotta remember. That garlic doesn't want anything gets at him. I mean you're a store stonewall. Maverick i try i. Try to just to stay focused and it's really hard to do some time but you know was a great question since you know you like to go into the rabbit hole. Held me up by my ears for a half an hour. that's all i always in the rabbit hole Well now the the question just a minute ago about sidewalks so his is really at everything that y'all just said would seem strange to me is like this is being set up to divide america in half that you've got It's like we're gonna have this conflict and either by this gonna be inaugurated and that's people are going to believe that it was stolen half of america's gonna be rioting or trump is going to find that much was in fact Overturned it should be overturned because the cheated. And then the other half of america's going to be riding so it looks like this is set up in purposely by the media to create a conflict that is going to dividing destroy america So and what. I really find kind of interesting is that i thought we had the solution for this adulation was just to go in. And let's look at the ballots and we can decide who won and we can all agree on it. You know if if there was no fraud for example in fulton then by one and we can all go about our business even if you supported trump or whatever and if there is fraud then all of a by insofar as it was fraud it redid win as they expect it and they will go about their business and with understanding that the right person one but it seems like that both sides don't want that to say you've absolutely nailed the issue for me that bingley and i have been talking about for years now there. Is this active attack on on faith in the process or an executing the process. I'm an in arco capitalist or a putting a forest actually but whatever. I don't believe in the system as much as i would. I would accept the constitution as a compromise they're not following it anyway. But this proceeds i realized i noticed this with the gore bush thing. I had a friend from germany. Who said boy. Your country is a mess. I said my country is a mess. They have a real dispute and they are going to resolve it bloodlessly through a process that was established in advance. And i think that it's actually testament to the fact that we're civilized mean my thoughts of involved a lot since then but i but this idea that process resolves conflict is something i cannot deny and that and we notice starting with stacey abrams running in the primary four upper basically right when they were stacey versus stacey and people were shouting. You're down and You know not following any kind of decorum in raise. It was strictly a racial shout down to right and that is part of what. That's like the mechanism they're using to have the format disintegrate by. It's giving me new faith in process as i see how important processes and that when they're pulling it down. Chaos is emerging and i. I don't think you need a territorial monopoly. On the use of force in the form of a modern state but even tribal governments has a process. And you know we need to. We need to recognize that ignoring the process. No one wins and you cannot agree. Yeah the national media does not have to be doing what they're doing they could be doing say they could easily recovering garland covering it more fairly and not stoking all the division but they aren't there to report the truth there there should get in the way of and they can identify the process can identify of calling it radical and a dictator. Just i mean it literally says on the front page above the fold of the wall street journal it says some republicans are going to object even though they have no hope of success like they're not they don't have no hope of success. There is no process or something that has no hope of success. You stop that process. It's like it's like literally if you have more than fifteen runs more than the other guy you don't play anymore innings like nobody's like well let's just keep playing. It's like no there's no hope of success so you're not allowed to play but there is say the team is playing the game today despite having no hope of winning right unless unless they're playing the wrong game in which case they really have no hope of winning and or you know you're fighting above your rate or whatever it's just i'm not great with sports analogy it is it isn't it isn't hopeless or they wouldn't do it. Have agenda process. They could say on the wall street journal. The process is slim chance of success. And i kept reading article looking for the process like so. What is the pro. Everybody's asking what happens. Pretty freaking knows but they didn't put that in there. Oh so they have an agenda. I mean it. It's clear you can see what you read enough of these articles. You know you know how to detect the agenda. I actually i actually stopped reading for what the contents has. Just read for what the agenda is trying to cross Welcome to the propaganda. That's our job so well. It's always fun to talk to you. And i really like it that we can joke and have fun even though like this is so so important absorbs all your time. But it's your life goes on and they're more important things alternately. You gotta have a little humor in our otherwise increasing. Yes that is my mother always says god is up in a seven. I don't know why you get so worked up. He's still in his heaven to get some ultimate humor and irony today if we all go to bed tonight and it looks like the democrats are gonna win hands down the next couple days mail and start trickling in republicans over to now that will be a sure sign of fraud folks out. Well it's always super super find. I'm hoping god comes an strategist out. Kreider no man be laughing at us. Who knows what tests were taking right. Now we don't know so all right we're gonna have to put you back on screen so powder your nose and get ready for a lot a little livestream on sunday to go talk to god but did a good word and then come talk to us. Okay i'll quit. I'll be cabinet ready. Thank you all right. Thanks okay thank.

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The truth about Jan.6: The inquiry begins (with Bill Kristol)

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The truth about Jan.6: The inquiry begins (with Bill Kristol)

"What makes the struggle harder and more painful is to know so many of my fellow citizens including so many of the people are put my life at risk to defend or downplaying or outright. Denying what happened. I feel like i went to hell and back to protect them in the people in this room but too many are now telling me that hell doesn't exist or that. He'll actually wasn't that bad. The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. My law enforcement crear prepared me to cope with some of the aspects of experience. being officer. You know your life is at risk whenever you walk out the door even if you don't expect otherwise law abiding citizens to take up arms against you but nothing truly. Nothing has prepared to address those elected members of our government who continued to deny the events of that day and in doing so betray their oath of office. Those very members whose lives offices staff members. I was fighting so desperately to defend that was dc metropolitan police officer michael genome one of four police officers. Who testified on tuesday before the house select committee investigating the january six attack on the capital seven months after a mob of marauding trump supporters attempted to violently stop congress's certification of joe biden president. The officers vividly recounted harrowing stories of the armed insurrectionists physically and verbally assaulting all of them said they feared for their lives capital police officer aquilino grenell and iraq war veteran recalled thinking. This is how i'm going to die. As he was being trampled by the raging crowd. He characterized the mayhem as something out of a medieval battle. Dc police officer. Daniel hodges described being crushed in a door while someone tried to gouge out one of his eyes throughout his testimony. He referred to the rioters as terrorists capital. Police officer harry dunn described weeping on a bench in the capitol rotunda after processing the fact that rioters had unleashed a torrent of racial epithets including the n word at him and his fellow officers of color but the moment the seemed to best capture the outrage and anguish of the witnesses was when officer owned himself beaten unconscious on that day and electrocuted over and over again with his own taser slammed down his hand on the witness table and called out republicans for minimizing or outright denying the brutal january six attack. The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. He told the committee. The empty seats at the hearing on. Tuesday seemed to underscore that indifference. Only two republicans took part in the preceding liz cheney of wyoming and illinois adam kinser both of whom reported by house speaker nancy pelosi and accepted the positions in defiance of their party leadership. What impact with the house investigation have who if anyone will be held accountable for the attack. And what is the political future of renegade republicans like chaney and kin zinger who have staked out such strong positions against donald trump and republican party holds sway over. We'll discuss this week's hearing and where the investigation goes from here with our colleague. Yahoo news senior political reporter jon ward and then we'll talk to bill kristol. The longtime political commentator veteran of republican administrations and cheney family insider about how republicans have handled the aftermath january six. And what that says about the future of the party on this episode of skulduggery lou solemnly swear that i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states will the best of my ability preserve protect and defend constitution of the united states. So help me. God so help me so help me guy. I'm dan kleinman. Been editor in chief of yahoo news. And i'm victoria. He a fellow at brennan center for justice. We're going to try to make up for michael issacov's absence on this episode. He's on vacation. How dare he. Maybe we should take advantage of michael coughs absence on this episode of the podcast. Get more than one question at gen a well. A very well deserved vacation. I'm sure it's a cough is on the beach somewhere notebook in hand harassing other beachgoers and trying to get stories out of them which he'll be back for the next podcast. We wish him. The best on is vacation but in his place. We have john war joining us. Who covered tuesday's hearing and so john. Let's just start with you. And i were texting back and forth a little bit during the hearing and i think we both had the same reaction which is that we were somewhat surprised at how emotional it was for us who have covered this story now for more than six months to be hearing these stories to see the testimony to see the videos again. I know that for me. A lot of emotion was kind of welling up from the very start of that hearing. Tell us what was going through your mind as you watch the hearing unfold. Yeah two things one is that i think there's been a period of time. During which a lot of people myself included have tried to just think about other things rather than the brush with demise that our democracy encountered you know about six months ago. And so i think a lot of the country has been eager to move on from the divisiveness of the trump era and eager to not have to think everyday about what outrage the president is committing and not have to argue about. I mean cova has been sort of dissipating. Obviously it's taking back up now so that's removed some divisiveness over the last six months. So i think you know trump has just been ramping up his attacks on the election more and more and more over the last two months or so and this hearing comes at a time when i think people maybe just in our industry probably most people americans are still on vacation and enjoying the summer. But i think if you're covering the news if you're covering this hearing you're coming to this and it's kind of a reengagement with the process because congress has set up the select committee and so you know i found myself you know stirred emotionally angry about what happened and Upset watching you know. The suffering of the police The lawlessness of the the insurrectionists. And i think the other thing that stood out to me is just some of the body cam footage some of the security tv footage showing the tunnel combat. It was just this hand to hand crushing grinding medieval battle between masses of bodies for inches in these tunnels. And i think seeing some of that footage that i had never seen before just reinforced. Like how much worse that day could have been because you had a couple of these entrances where police from capitol police from from dc police metropolitan. Police were holding off rioters and keeping the number of people getting into the capital down and basically. They bought time between two o'clock and four o'clock. I need to actually go back to the time line and figure out win exactly reinforcements arrived. I know somewhere in the four to five hour but there was a two hour period. There were these cops. Were just holding these people off and enduring just horrific abuse from you know all kinds of chemicals being sprayed to just being battered by wave after wave of people assaulting them so those are kind of my two personal takeaways. So you know. I think probably between the three of us on this conversation. We've we've probably been at or watched thousands of congressional hearings. And i think it was possibly the most effective congressional hearing i've ever seen and one of the reasons why it was so effective. But but i've got a question was because the the kind of the standard issue partisan bickering you ec. In house hearings wasn't present and there was a sort of a unity of purpose amongst the committee members and a shared understanding that around the purpose of of the hearing to to hear what had happened and to respect the law enforcement officers. My question is what next. Where does this committee go next. That was a pretty amazing hearing. Is there another one that they could have. How can this committee top or equal that hearing. Well i mean. I think in terms of emotional impact and and just sort of a compelling presentation. That's going to be a highlight of the committee's work. But if you go to the website just security dot org and look through. Maybe you guys could put this in the show notes. But they have a document questions. The january six select committee should ask. It's witnesses this is a page that goes on you. Can scroll through it for very long time. They have a list of potential witnesses here. That is probably thirty plus people so you have the head of the fbi at the time or current current. Still chris wray. Dhs all of the people in charge of the pentagon and the army. The capitol police a number of people in the trump white house. There's about thirteen of them on this list as well as four others outside trump advisors roger stone and folks like that so there is a long long list of names and questions that need to be answered. The senate has done a sort of an initial investigation into why the threat posture at the capital was not sufficient why it was not prepared for such assault but as the folks at the law. Fair website have pointed out there. Just really smart folks over there. Dan investigation was very limited. Did not get into all of the things that caused those shortcomings in preparation. We don't know really anything about why. The response from the national guard was delayed for hours even though we have testimony from The former secretary of defense and others that suggests there might have been either a lack of communication from president trump. And the white house at the least or you know we need to know was there actual communication from the trump white house that had some role to play in. Those delays in sending national guard units and in sending further police units from other localities. I mean we know. For example that maryland governor larry hogan was proactively reaching out. I was in touch with hogan's people on january six asking. Why are maryland state police on the scene. And his spokesman said the same thing that hogan has said publicly which is that they were not getting approval from the pentagon. So there's all these unanswered questions about why these things happened on january six and that's gonna be the work of this committee but that raises some interesting questions. First of all. I do want to give a shout out to ryan goodman. Who is the editor of just security and then witness who runs law fair. Both of whom are friends of skulduggery. And both of whom have been on the podcast so they are great resources for people who want to dig further into these issues. But we've been saying all along. Look it was it was. I think it was very smart of this committee to start the hearing with this very powerful visceral emotional testimony and to sort of set. The scene of what happened on january sex but at the end of the day the investigation is going to have to uncover new facts. And it's going to have to answer a lot of those very good questions. You just posed and the question. Is you know victoria. Who is the only one among us who's actually been on a congressional committee that's issued subpoenas. Will they be able to do that. they can certainly issue subpoenas. Can they enforce them. What kind of litigation will there be. Can they do it on the time. Line that they needed to be on. So it was notable that liz cheney in her opening statement said basically. We're going to be doing this and we're going to be doing it quickly. We need to answer all those questions. Everything that happened inside the white house every phone call every meeting. But i put this to both of you. How plausible is it that the committee will be able to actually do that. And enforce those subpoenas and get the information they need. I mean the only thing i would. I would defer to victoria on how that could work. But i think my political instinct on this. Is that this. This is gonna be a significant issue. The the enforcement of subpoenas. Because i think they're going to subpoena a number of these folks who worked at the white house and they're going to face stonewalling and congress hasn't hasn't used its powers to compel testimony through basically arresting people. I don't even know which law enforcement agency would do that. But they've done it in the past sergeant of arms right and they haven't done it since nineteenth century. No no no. They did it in the nineteen thirties. Actually the last guy got arrested for declining to kind of comply with a congressional subpoena there. There's no congressional jail as it happens and so they put him up in the willard. Which is which is a fancy fancy hotel in washington dc. So that was that was the last guy who went to congressional jail now. So i like john. I think you put your finger on it. Which is how fast are they going to move to the subpoena right. So previous congressional committees have kind of engaged in these like careful. Cautious dances with people. They wanna have testify. They tried to persuade the and then the when the persuasion doesn't work. They threatened to subpoena them. That eventually. get around a subpoena. And then they go to court to try to enforce the subpoena and long story short. You know three years have passed before you can get any of that testimony. But i think what's happening with this committee is they've learned the lesson of the last four years of the trump administration. Which is no more pussyfooting around right. Just going straight to subpoena. And they're moving fast and yesterday. The department of justice issued an opinion which indicated that the neither the department of justice nor the white house would agree with an assertion of executive privilege so if any of those white house people attempt to decline to comply with the subpoena because they they say that you know executive privilege applies and so they can't testify. They're not gonna get any joy from the department of justice or the white house and likely not going to get much joy from the courts. So i think there's a chance these subpoenas. We're going to move fast and they're gonna get enforced and it's going to be really interesting to see whether or not Try to Try to avoid the subpoenas. Say if they end up in the willard jail for their efforts. Well i'm i'm guessing i'm guessing if donald trump refuses to testify and they send the send the sergeant arms to arrest him. He'll say in the trump hotel. Yeah i think. I actually think it's it's the willard stories funny but i think i think nowadays they've got a I think they've got a Memo of understanding with the dc police and they can they can put him up in dc jail if they really need to but It's going to be is going to be an interesting story when all of that starts flying. Well just out bennie thompson. The chair of the select committee democrat from mississippi. After the hearing yesterday came out and said we're not going to send letters were sending. We're starting right away with subpoena. So he made very clear yesterday after the hearing. We're not waiting. We're going to subpoenas going right away. He didn't say who yet but he made. He made explicitly clear that they're going to do exactly what you just said. Yeah i mean pe- people just you may remember that during the impeachment one Or pre impeachment won the the The i think it was the house. Judiciary committee attempted to get testimony. From don mcgann did bush's former white house counsel. He was no longer white house counsel with attempted to get his testimony Mcgann resisted the trump administration resisted They went to court began. It took almost two years before they could get mcgann in front of anyone to testify. I think it's going to be a lot faster this time as you know my question. I wonder what is this. Committee's definition of success you know. Is it kind of figuring out the intelligence errors and kind of concocting a you know like a fifteen point plan to increase coordination among st no intelligence agencies and the capitol police is it. Is it that sort of stuff or is there a bigger definition of success to them. Yeah it's a good question. I think there's elements of finding out. What happened that. We don't find any questions to answers that we don't have the answers to yet. The ones that. I kind of outlined a i think that's a big one. What did trump do on january six. Was he responsible for the slowness of the response or the lack of preparation in any way. And then i think preparing for the future you know in terms of readiness around the capital and intelligence assessments is also another one but i think it was interesting. What benny thompson said in his opening remarks yesterday which is that. The the threat to democracy is ongoing because of former president trump's continuation of his lives about the twenty twenty election. Personally i'm not a big fan of the the phrase the big lad just think it's like sort of not a big fan of those buzzwords. I think they too easily turn into things that people just here and say. Okay i i know what that means. So just you know rejected or dismiss it. But i think that thomson said this is an ongoing threat to democracy and part of the work of this committee is going to be to try to use the word eliminate those threats. Which is you know. I'm not really sure how would do that. You know that they're not law enforcement. They can't go out and investigate people so you know. I think maybe he means by shining more light on what happened. That could expose those who who were behind this or those who are responsible and and further discredit them in the in the eyes of the country. That might be what he was getting out. So jon you know there's clearly there's there's a political calculation behind these hearings as well as obviously as well as obviously principal and the importance of doing all the things you just talked about and by the way the politics in a way can be can also be noble if part of what the exercise is here is to prevent a further slide into authoritarianism and destruction of our democratic institutions. Then you also have to. You also have to win elections and so and prevent the people who you hold responsible for all of those things to lose elections so from a purely political standpoint. Do you have a sense of how the democrats and nancy pelosi bennie thompson. See this these hearings as as as a kind of a political battering ram going into the midterms and then and then beyond. So i think there's ways in which these hearings can be political that is appropriate and then there's ways in which they could be political. That is inappropriate or maybe unhelpful. I don't know both terms apply. But i think her decision to reject jim jordan the congressman from ohio. And i'm jim banks from indiana with jordan in particular. I think blocking him from the panel actually made the committee's work to victoria's point more sober more serious more focused on actually doing the job that it's supposed to do which is fact finding and jordan prove during the first impeachment that he's not a serious interrogator of the truth and reality he's he was there on the house intelligence committee which i attended all of these hearings in person and he was there specifically to muddy the waters through lobbying conspiracy theories and hyper partisan talking points and so i think that was a political decision resulted in the committee being position to do. Its work in a proper way you know. I think i think there's undoubtedly going to be calculus by the democrats that you know getting to the truth year could discredit trump ahead of two thousand twenty four but i think the degree to which the committee and even people outside the committee like pelosi i think the degree to which they are seen as using this committee to score political talking points will actually undermine it to some degree and so i think they're smart enough to know that and i think they will probably try to refrain as i think. They did largely during the first impeachment from over the top rhetoric. And just let the process play out and let the facts speak for themselves. I mean i think in a way it's like that's their best political outcome to just let the process move forward in a sober way with integrity. It's kind of a win win for. That doesn't always happen in politics. Sometimes you have to kind of maneuver more and take advantage of things in a way that maybe as a bit more crass but here i don't see that i think You know my big my big unknown question. And i don't know i don't know that we'll ever kind of i hope will never know the answer to this question. But if If donald trump were try to whip up a group of people to assault the capital again you know because they're convinced he could get sworn back in august or something like that you know. Would people show up. Would they do it. Are we still in that place. I think i think today. No i think you'd have some people show up but you wouldn't have critical mass and you also have you know law enforcement on a much sharper footing to respond. You know. i think what made january six so potent was the lack of preparation by law enforcement combined with the drumbeat over months and months and months. That created a alternative reality. A belief in an alternative reality among millions of americans out of which came you know. Tens of thousands of people who came to washington out of those tens of thousands came several thousand who actually committed violent acts to breach the capital. And so there was. There was a cumulative effect over time. You know. I think a number of people. I've heard quoting kim. Remember who said this. But basically that you know the demise of democracy or something bad happens over time and then all at once so i think you need that kind of effect for something like january six to happen. I think you know there's other scenarios where anti-democratic or even fascist type actions could take place. But i think january six type event you know a lot of the factors i just laid out are kind of needed and i'm not saying it couldn't happen again because it can. Absolutely he can run for president in two thousand twenty four. He can convince millions of people once again that loses it's rigged so that is a possible scenario undoubtedly as gonna as inject. I think it's it's a hymning. It's a hemingway quote that the. How did it happen. Gradually then suddenly right. that's right. Well very high falutin here. Quoting hemingway just back to the earth john. What's next for this investigation Subpoenas how soon might we see them. When will there be another hearing. I think i heard possibly even when the congress out of session in august bennie thompson might being the committee back thompson said yesterday after the hearing that it's possible they come back and hold a hearing in august. I don't have a good sense of when they'll start issuing subpoenas. But i have to believe that that will start over the next month you know. I just think they're gonna probably issue subpoenas and schedule hearings with people who they expect to actually testify without any resistance kind of on dual tracks so that they've got people lined up to testify soon either in august or in september. Who are going to willingly testify. And then they're probably at the same time issuing those subpoenas to get. That process started as soon as possible with people who they expect to resist testimony. It will be interesting to see how they differentiate if they do between people who need a subpoena and those who don't maybe they make an initial contact and then if there's no response you know that is the trigger for a subpoena. I don't know exactly how they're determining that but That's actually a good line of inquiry for me and my reporting well. We know that When the next hearing occurs or when there are new significant developments. In the committee's investigation you will be on it for us and you will come back on the podcast to talk about it. So that is reassuring to us. And i'm sure many of our listeners but if it happens next week we will not be on it because we're on vacation right. We are joining isikoff on vacation next week. Figuratively not literally. So we'll be. We'll be dark next week but we will be back. What the second. Week of august. I can think of august or some of us some of the second week we may we may be in kind of rotation mode here so some of us will definitely be back so jon thank you for joining skulduggery and we got another terrific guest. Coming up bill kristol. Who spent most of his career in the belly of the republican beast and has lots of insights about where the party is going. How january sixth. And it's after math has affected the party Liz cheney and kuenz anger who obviously are on the committee. So let's get to it last summer. Sleep kept a sane through the silence. 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What was going through your mind when you were watching the testimony and not to be grandiose about it but in terms of the the health or sickness of the republic in our in our political system. Right now i mean it was riveting and genuinely moving in a way that many of us who've been around too long perhaps got little john than soda used to these kinds of things that was that was genuinely unusual. I hope it moved a lot of my fellow. Americans i would say a couple of things. It occurred to me as i was watching her. Shortly after a how off were were these. How often conventional wisdom punditry wisdom is wrong. I think the conventional wisdom when pelosi refused been speaker policy refused to those two republicans on the committee and then mccarthy people the three was that oh should fine made a mistake. It's so important to look bipartisan. All this other stuff. Totally the opposite. I think of the truth. Which is they had a real hearing. republicans who are on were terrific. You had the sense that you were here. There was no grandstanding by the members. Which they certainly would've been if jim jordan or others have been on so i think speaker plus totally vindicated in her political tough political judgment and not just political judgment that if we want to have a serious hearings. What happened in january six. We can't have people like jim. Jordan and Engine banks on the on. The committee The other thing. That struck me as i've been saying jenner's horrible. It was terrible to see that happen in the capital and there was genuine human -sconsin suffering and an image of the us in the world and so forth but really really what was fundamentally important. Was what happened between november third in january six real serious attempt by trump and his colleagues The election through the justice department the defense department fracturing state officials encouraged to do that on the hill to make sure that the the committee considers all that not the more simply the more dramatic events of january six. I think i'm still right about that. The sense if you have to put it all together it holds. It wasn't a one day thing. It was a two month thing or maybe it's been six months or four year saying and it's worth thinking about it. That is the right way to think about it. Having said that i i was a little too clever by half myself that i mean the the drama of just that one day rings home the broader points in a way that we'll see what happens later. Testimony that away. This the account of from so-called brad raffles burger or the worries of By serious people. In former secretary of defense that he was going to use the The militated appropriately while that stuff's a little more abstract compared to what happened january six. Yeah i mean it's interesting. It did feel a little bit like a time warp in that some of us are old enough to remember when these kinds of hearings were bipartisan. Were sober were serious. But i want to just follow up before victoria jumps in on on what you said at the outset. Which is that you think. You hope that this hearing will have real impact will break through as you know. We are at a time in our politics when everyone is so dug in on both sides. What makes you what gives you hope that this hearing will actually make a difference will lead to holding people accountable and get to the bottom of what happened that hopeful that things will fundamentally change. They've been so many moments over the last months and years where i thought. Okay this is the ball at finally people. Turn away and see what happened to trump Trump's defenders enablers so. I don't know that that's going to happen. On the margin though insofar as trump has been quite successful really amazingly successful distressingly successful keeping control of lease republican party ended of stifling dissent innocence and getting an incredible number of people to sign onto the big lie and then sign onto forward-looking efforts to deny voting rights and lay the ground for future overturning elections. Maybe this stops the momentum directionally. Maybe it's a bit of a reality. Check that at least causes. People who are maybe not cavazos encouraged not to you know people willing to stand up to every two trump in the surf. Look at that they move. Maybe i just cool it for awhile so it might be one of those. Things doesn't have a huge immediate effect. Where look back and this may be. South wishful thinking but if we look back at the arc of trump's influence post-presidency may be geeks around our and and maybe we started a gradual decline. So any two of the stars of the hearing were clearly this chaining and adam zinger and they were clearly more than just a kind of Decorative republicans for the for the committee. I'm wondering do you think that they made the case to other republicans in the house that they should to join them. That did they. Kind of put a stake in the ground that will attract other house. Republicans to join them very doubtful about the current house republican conference than they could've joint list and advocates already again. Maybe use some of the criticism of that were maybe a few more people just decide to go silent for a few months and not positively encourage and repeat and amplify the big lie or attempts election overturning or other kind of trumpy efforts demagoguery. So i think it's and that's maybe a little more outside the house. So i would say people watch if you're a candidate you're forty thirty five year old running republican running in an open seat for next year for the house or to state and local level. You watch that. Maybe before he would just have to go wall trump's as everyone's telling me that's what that's where the party's going that's where the momentum is as straight is. What's my joyce now. Have you look at that. You think you think. I'm gonna go become never trumper They should've done that while ago. But they're not must've hurt but maybe they decide to kind of try to stay out of it for a while and look for my. That's not a great outcome and it doesn't make me feel that warm to the republican party if they just are less irresponsible than they were but from the country's point of view less strident irresponsibility is at least to start on the start. Maybe the beginning of a step or two on the path back. So if that's the case it would you know what do you think can zinger and cheney's vision is what's their what's their long term goal here There clearly buying a whole lot of trouble with the republican party. Cutting themselves off from a lot of the support that the party has given them a drawing. You know opponents in their pre primary opponents. What's their what's their long term strategy. So i think they. I think they've they're doing the right thing. And i think those cases honestly they really are doing it because they believe they're doing the right thing. I know them both well. I was disappointed in them and argue. That over the last couple of years they stayed loyal enough to trump Pretty outspoken cheney lasso but that they both supporters reelection and i remember saying to them to others close to them. You can't possibly think secretary for donald. Trump is a good idea. Incidentally after everything we've learned how this all those people in the middle were you know kind of ood merrill problems with trump Second i'm going to endorse reelection. Everything from the wall street journal editorial board types to view types to ton of congressmen and senators who privately had doubts about trump. How do they feel now. I'd like some of the come out. Safe won't be helpful to more than followed at least which any getting upset said they. They're happy trump didn't win a second term. They regret having supported trump. they wouldn't support again. In james case. I think this is true of kensington. They won't support mccarthy speaker because he's been so accommodating to and so much of an apology apologised for trump so he bits maybe. Maybe it's too much felt that people go all way. But i think you can imagine again the kind of inbetween position where people do they do have an effect on on on people sort of not being enthusiastic about trump for twenty twenty four and about the trump candidates in twenty twenty two inches of their own futures. I mean getting his district in redistricting. Jamie's got the big challenge. Wyoming devised that she'll be Reelected she'll be a member of the house. She won't be part of the republican leadership. But she so at odds with much party on on. This is pretty fundamental issue right now. That maybe it's better to be leadership. And i you know she's doing what you think is right to the degree. That is a political 'calculation. It is as you suggested. Cut a long term. It's not a two months of novelist janet. He's gonna be have wildly favorable numbers. Republican mob Two years from now our maybe four or five or six years from now people are going to say you know what i at the time i thought she picked a fight she didn't need to. She was too outspoken. She exaggerated the problems but now acknowledged that she was right or at least more right than wrong. Have you had a chance to talk to her at all in the run-up to these hearings Have you given her the benefit of any of your advice. No not directly and so let me ask you about the politics of these hearings in particular because clearly everyone who was all of the members the democrats and the republicans there were there because they genuinely feel outrage over what happened and that has to be a serious investigation. But there's also always politics involved as well and i'm curious how you think this plays out politically for the democrats whether you think. In retrospect it was helpful or or still. Maybe think it was a mistake. That pelosi refused to seat either. Jim banks or jim jordan. What do you think the politics are from the perspective of of democrats in this hearing. So i don't know how to vote on this twenty twenty two. Obviously so it'll become one data point among many in the general image of the parties. But i think it helps the democrats in the sense in two sentences reminds people that this is this is this is what happened. January six is what will end up getting reminded. What trump didn't In the lead up to january sexes including the noon that day when he spoke the rally also he didn't do as the capital was being attacked. And i've always thought that part has been a little bit under sort of emphasize Because i served in the white house. They did that. Fresno united states doesn't immediately call an extra security council meeting the department of justice department on the phone make sure every asset of the. Us government is used to protect our own capital. You know from an assault is just unbelievable to me. So trump's dereliction of duty is negligence willful negligence On the side of the people doing is something i think. We'll brought home a little more over the next few months in that will in turn reflects on a republican party sixty percent of which the house members at least of which on the evening of january six voted to overturn election results. Having seen what happened as a result of the big lie during the day on january six. So i think you know insofar as that issue is one of many. That people are voted on twenty twenty. Two it's a insofar as it just makes the republicans look as responsible really as they truly were keeps that a lot that way keeps keeps the the memory of that a little more alive and i think that's good for the democrats. You know marginal way the thing. I would say it has been commented on. Maybe i see this what i would. Are you like. The judge said we were future former republican so i thought the democrats. Some of the biggest. The biggest lease idea certain stripe of not very friendly to trump most may be middle middle class business oriented republicans have either stuck with the republicans or might go back to them in twenty twenty two. Is you know. Democrats radical horribly left wing politically correct progressive. You know low socialist. Whatever the critical race theory. What have you watched it. And the other african discuss each of those elements if you want. What's what tiny parts of truth there. Mostly untruth Think of the democrats. You saw that committee. They did not look like crazy people. They did not look like people who hated america. They didn't look not like people who work. Szeswith some crackpot economic theory weirdo. You know throw of american foreign policy or all of american history was just a saga of horrible imperialism or terrible injustice. I mean dating address this directly but the general image one feeling when got from them is that were decent people horrified by what they were seeing sympathetic to the capitol. Police i mean i think the defunding police things may be a little hard for the republicans to sell after the democrats are the ones who are incredibly sympathetic to concerned about the capitol police in the republicans are at least some of them are scornful of them in a so i think in that respect it has a sort of weird very indirect i'll grant but you know effect on people's again people are paying attention to certain kinds of maybe swing swedish ish voter their image of but what is the democratic party about a party joe biden abedi thomson and Congresswoman luria luria. Stephanie murphy and i really appreciate you should be so terrified of Going forward just one quick. Follow up because the point that you made about the police Is so interesting to me watching. That hearing i mean we all grew up with the republicans as the party of law and order right and this was emotional testimony from these police officers. Who all they were doing was trying to defend the rule of law and it kind of raises the question in my mind. I mean do do principles matter at all and the ability of so many people in the republican party today to kind of hold these opposing ideas in their head down on the one hand the democrats are you know all about defunding the police and i i think it was actually well said by one of the police officers. I can't remember which one it was was pointing out that some of these insurrectionists were holding that thin blue line flag as they were attacking the police and what does that say about the republican party today in a larger sense. Well and Put it out. I've seen some of this data myself to defend. The police thing. Hurt the democrats in two thousand twenty down. Ballot binding was not released as tools that attack. But they you know. People know about their members of congress or cello candidates for congress debate the republicans didn't spent a ton of money and did a pretty good job mostly unfairly attacking various random people running as democrats hostile to the police because the whole party allegedly leads to fund the police. Because you know. Three members of the party had said to fund the police at one point and if you hadn't distance themselves from it right away and so i do think that that was not a trivial issue and if even if only added taken off the table for twenty twenty two. That's not nothing politically you know. Just listening to you. Speak about the kind of the republican. Party's know position on a lot of these issues. Just really drives home. I think the fact that twenty eat the upcoming twenty twenty two election and then even twenty twenty four election isn't going to represent any sort of like a sharp turn in terms of the kind of this the belief system of the republican party. And it's kind of it's. It's kind of its embrace trump and of of some of these kind of more kind of dangerous anti-democratic or anti democracy trends and it's it's it's really kind of nerve wracking to to hear you say that. How much longer can this country take that. That trend well. I think we have to take that possibility. Let's say or threat. Seriously for the next several years. Honestly i agree. It's kind of iraqi. People have been slow. You know maybe. I would cook myself guilty Inability come to grips with the fact that i mean it became a twenty twenty was way toward the night. Twenty twenty the borgata livestream and people. I was kind of depressed. Pretty clear biden. it wants. That was very good news. Where i'm forty two but i i was beginning to be aware. It's the data came in the election. Results came in slowly. Obviously some of these down ballot elections that democrats elected lost. Maybe ten seats in time was clear they were gonna win. The senate office Georgia so as like jeez. This is not allow repudiation of trump or a trump five republican party and it wasn't in twenty twenty and people keep hoping that they'll be a magic moment when it just across the board in two thousand. Eighteen was big loss in the house. Very important that the democrats on the house but mcconnell held the senate twenty twenty lost the presence a very very important Gains house but say short of a majority very important with georgia. Fifty fifty senate. Yes you say. It's still on the bubble. Very much makes a big difference. What happens in twenty two and twenty four years twenty twenty two twenty eighteen if democrats. Was this the normal pattern of seats in the first off year election of when they the presidency hold the senate maybe Impossible told the house. Tough but maybe doable. We'll do it will not easy That would be a big deal. Say picked up seats. That would be pretty amazing. Denser would win twenty twenty four. you'll just say they increased the margin again by a couple points. So hillary clinton's marge over trump was what two points in two thousand sixteen in the popular vote by four points. What if it goes to six or eight is still not twenty five points. you know. Decisive moment Everything solved but that would make huge difference if it goes the other way on your hand. Obviously we're in a whole different world. So i do think people have to sort of toughen up realized this is a longer hall. Take the smaller advantages when they began and not expected. There's going to be this this moment when the sky suddenly clear clears Away and it's the sun fours down. It's much more a matter of of incremental progress because the trump the rotten republican party was deeper than people like we realized but then the degree to its trump is exacerbated at all and it's now and there's so many people imitating him I think hard to put it back. back in the tube to mix various doesn't metaphors here now. Having said that. I suppose the only caveat to that is that's how it feels now but if we should learn anything in the last five six seven years Change for suddenly. May we will have the sun the sky clear and you know massive turn absorb inflection points. Something really big happens. That just goes whoa. This was kind of we have to really think things. It's not just two percent four percent six percent of republican voters saying that it's twenty or thirty or forty percent. I don't think that's impossible. You could imagine that scenario they. They thought slightly different seventy years ago. They can certainly go back to thinking that or or go forward thinking something like that. But i think it's more prudent at this point to think that you said it's not a there's no. There's no quick solution to this problem. Okay but last night maybe in texas. There was a glimmer of hope. And you you. You had a little something to do with that apparently through a muster teachers minute but i mean yeah so i think it's a good case study though was it was good. The less trump republican wanted sort of odd situation especially lecturer to republicans got in the runoff on the nj galaxy who might actually given about contribution in the summer of two thousand eighteen to three years ago when he was running for congress. Lost actually in the primary He really was wasn't quite never trump but he was very non trump republican. he's adjusted unfortunately like the rest of the party of the last three years and now he's a kind of trump accommodating in rationalizing republican but not full in you know all be and trump endorsed his opponent. So the good news is elsie won. The good news is their ad featuring why twenty eighteen to believe it totally dollar contribution chelsea the assigned that he was unacceptable. Favorite flavor of the worst never-trumpers. You a never trump hitman man. I s i was the league. He accepted the contribution as if control contributes to your campaign accepted a contribution from the los notorious. Never hitman and that doesn't seem to have cost him. The election and in baby got a few democrats democrat and run off to say okay if they hate him so much. Maybe he's better at even though he's a pretty conservative. Republican has ladders fifty three forty seven. I think something like that to find out talking about like you know as a small turnout election. So we're not talking about massive numbers of texans suddenly deciding than like donald trump. But you look at the margin. These things can make a difference. So what do you think. Donald trump is going to do in twenty twenty four. Do you think he's going to run again. You probably saw michael wolf's peace promising that he is going to run his evidence being that he's hasn't started building trump library presidential library. I don't think i'm not promising anything. And i think if he's healthy enough you'll run. I really don't see. Why wouldn't i mean he wants to be liked. Being president for the stopped at all with hardware game eight the love the the all the parts of it he will cared about the rest of it. He just ignored know now. Twenty twenty two goes very badly for him l. decide it's data for him to sort of pretend to have other reasons not not run. Thinks really gonna get clobbered by biden. comedy is but i would say things are kind of where they are now if you take sort of. Victoria's premise of the radical change. I think he thinks he has a decent chance of winning. And i don't i think people are underestimating. How much. that's that's why he's been so obsessed with the big lie and the he is so part of his selling point to republicans of i have the magic sauce. I can win canaan and romney. Those nice guys fashioned. They couldn't win. I could win. And then will you mr uk you once sluggish. But anyway you over. They lost the next one. No i didn't really lose it. I was stolen allen. Twenty twenty four with everyone being so alert to the steel. We have a chance to win for all this hit. The big lie hurt them in. Georgia hurts them in some practical ways. It doesn't trump personally. And in fact. I think it's very important to trump that he get his people. It's one way Command of his own people by giving them this narrative to believe in but it's also particularly useful narrative. If you want to run again. And so i think i do think he wants and do you think. Do you think the the primary republican primary is a cakewalk for donald. Trump is a good. It's a good question stugotz about that. Yesterday i think people probably a little too quick to Cakewalk because i was never get more for anyone you know they're always contested. So is a moment at least where even the front runner gets. Even a prohibitive frontrunner gets challenged while bernie. Sanders turns out to be a better. You know cajun stronger. Challenger to hillary clinton take hobbies example twenty sixteen and so forth. And you know there will be a chunk of the party. That wants to be rid of him. I'm clearly they'll be twenty percent or thirty percent and said there's this boats there for someone and i think you have to have a bernie sanders type attitude. Which is you know. it's not gonna look promising. But i'm gonna take my shot this time and if you're not on the list types that much of a chance would like it is she she did. She has not as far as i know. She's not ruled out. Kind of just as a standard-bearer but i think the type probably again assuming we're not looking baticle changes which remind but radical changes the political landscape of the next years presumably more the trump acquiescent. But not crazy like trump a little more responsible than trump type and that person has to be willing to take on trump which means you get a huge amount of hatred from the trump less which is a pretty good chunk of the party. But you'd have to have the attitude of you know what i want if he's quite as strong as he thinks People who say they like him but kinda no he's not as good a candidate and also getting kind of old also just too much baggage crazy innocent i. The scientists aren't Whoever can be the perfect christiaan can be the person who looks like a real long shot to start with. I mean obama clinton is probably the best example. Democrats had no real. Hillary clinton was popular in the democratic party. Through two seven eight. It wasn't Obama voters didn't hate hillary clinton but they sort of wanted this comparison to go too far overseen. They'll somebody differences but they turned out. There was much more of an appetite for change. That one thought editor Barack obama and scenario is but. I don't think it's out of the question that that could happen. On the republican side and twenty four but i think trump will be the clear favourite going in so you know as as negative or grim as the story feels about a kind of an an alteration in the kind of republican party's story about elections and democracy feels there has been like in the last week a positive story about a reversal or an alteration in the republican outlook on an important thing. And that's the embrace of the need to get vaccinated for covert right and i'm wondering if the first of all why why was there. Has there been such a breakthrough in the party in terms of embracing the vaccination and is that a you know kind of a model assign of maybe a change. I think reality matters and you know we get people. Could adults claim. The masking is oversold. Maybe it was a little and you couldn't prove that went out without a mask you wouldn't get over it with a mask the the you couldn't get it either. So maybe said that back. Was you know what i mean that. The so that kind of stuff is more susceptible to quarrel when you look at the hospitalizations and deaths the vaccinated and the unvaccinated and the numbers. Such as radically diverging than you say. You know even a republican governor like ron santa's says might you know i was fun demagoguing. The backseat issue was fun. Getting past about that for the florida. Legislature legislation that prohibits private companies except for the disney was exempted from insisting on vaccination. Now he's backed off the courts overturned that in some ways the cruise lines are not obeying that It's unclear to me if you're a huge business in florida and our university florida system. Or whatever what you can get do. I don't think the santa's is actually very interested in litigating anymore will be nice to be actually explicitly. Apologized pushing such irresponsible legislation reversed. It but i think if you're onto santa's you sort of think move these numbers Care somewhat floridians dying and being hospitalized and be you look at that jarred and you think this is not good for me i need to be at least urging people to get vaccinated. I also think reality with delta And the combination of the dumpster buried thirty percent of adults. Unvaccinated is very bad combination. And i do think the biden ministration of what else is moving towards should mandates a different times to really. It's crazy to be a little more relaxed about this a month ago because lucky to say at some point if people are gonna get vaccinated. They're taking risks everyone else's chosen to get vaccinated and continues to choose to do so is going to be in good shape okay. That's not great. But it's the sort of acceptable outcome. I would say if it turns out that because of the delta there in a higher percentage of those thirty percent are going to get very sick and die and be. You're not gonna some penetration into the backseat headed which in turn has all kinds of other implications for the future of of the disease being able to spread more in stuff. I made it really at schools because kids under twelve hundred vaccinated at our parents. Going to be comfortable senator kids back if they're this thirty percent on backstage and delta variant swooping through them at it's not a hundred percent little kids can't get pretty sick and stuff so i think the degree to which people started woke up. I think i was a little add on. This was very alarmed for a couple of weeks but people in the last week or so like said. This is not acceptable. This could really be more. That a little speed bump this could really be d- mail derailing of our social comeback educational comeback economic comeback as well as public health comeback. I feel like that's been a pretty big move in the last week or two and i think republican change of tone is is part of that. I've got one last question. I just wanna come back to the chinese Not just liz cheney but to The former vice president. You're close to the cheney family. I'm assuming that there is a little or no daylight between dick. Cheney and liz cheney on on her kind of repositioning within the republican party first of all let me know if you think that is the case something here. I agree with your some. Yeah but tell me what you learned about dick. Cheney about the cheney family over the years that helps explain Where liz cheney is now and the position that she is staked out for herself which poses potentially some real peril to her political future. That's an interesting way put into question. I've been i've been sorta close to the chinese also plenty of times. I've been announced with them. So i guess a couple of things. They are strong and stubborn and once they make up their mind aren't so easily blown off it. So you know that could be good or bad obviously depending on if you wanted to Have to change their minds. But they i think in this suspects. is not as easily deters of the people by even in this case losing her leadership position in the house certainly wasn't sure about the threat of it which was very obvious at the time. I also think she really. This is characteristic of her parents to Matter she thought through the position that she was she had a view when this argue about in two thousand sixteen basically the twenty twenty. Which is we can brac from. Limit the damage fighting a losing twenty twenty. We need to be responsible. For these four years swatches we can preventive doing irreparable that irreparable damage in various areas. Whether it's to our alliances abroad or to our institution home. But i'm going to be there bill nice for you to. I'm not saying she literally said this but if you had to do was go off you'll be never trump that's fine. You're not in office. But i'm have a chance to really shape things here and and and prevents a bad things happening at pick up the pieces and put together afterwards. I think that's why she reacted so strongly after november third and particularly after january sex. But she she really had soon november third would be kind of the end of the trump moment and there would be a reasonable chance to recover from it says. Put the pieces back together. That wasn't a crazy assumption. I always thought that was too optimistic. And she was interesting. The damage done whatever i mean. That was not ridiculous. I think she saw that. It was quite the opposite. Not just trump personally was trying to overturn the election calls to doubt the you know just terrible damage to the will to democracy. But that he he people dressed. The party was going along with the reason. She's been so fierce really since january sixth. I give credit for that. She's not just you know she really is now sees that where things have. She saw early. After january's after members are where things could go. They have gone that way with a whole party. Going off internet democratic anti-constitutional anti will direction. So i think that's a characteristic of the chinese are they think it through and don't sort of nc where these things can go and i think she saw that quite early in the final point i make just at her mom writes these books as historians written about the american founding nasi children's books veggies as madison zef pretty good actually end so they they really care about that i mean they really are and people call them and whatever but you know they have always thought of themselves as kind of upholding certain versions of the american. The best of the american tradition american political tradition. I do that gives more sort of hunch to what thinks she's doing herself understanding than than just someone say. This is also fine just to think. Trump was horrible without knowing that much about american history and the american founding just thinking his he and his followers indecent that i'm just going to oppose them because they're horrible human beings. It's also fair enough from my point of view. But i think maybe with with liz cheney. There's a little more of that sense of what is this doing to this whole country into everything it stands for. You know it's very interesting speech. Where was that a january thirteenth. I guess when she said she was voting for impeachment and then in subsequent speeches she has talked a little bit about her own work in the early. Nineteen nineties chips. Quite young she as the cold war ended in berlin wall came down. She was an election observer. In different countries. I think in both eastern europe in africa asia. And you know really. She really has internalized. Certain view of america that makes her angry at trump. not just because of what is doing to her. What it's doing to the public party. It's just unseemly an and kind of the bad right now for the country but really puts into dangerous. The whole american. What america stands for isn't the logic of her conviction that will lead her to vote for impeachment that would lead her to sit on a pelosi appointed committee that if the republican party doesn't change and if she lets say loses her primary then she would have been repudiated by the party by her constituents that she leaves the party and that she do something very different. I think it's possible. I think she has more resistance. I do. I'd say as it now at least to becoming a sort of right wing biden democrat but For now but maybe she'll be right that the democrats will go in a direction that i really couldn't support it the she couldn't be a third party possibility maybe she'll become a kind of a belated the red dog by democrat or or or maybe just independent One of the things about having a very polarized and evenly divided house senate country. Is that if you are independent in the middle. You don't need to have forty percent of the country with you right if you have five or ten percent of the country which she has five percent of the house with her and this is speaker election next year she fibers temperature the country with her if she ran bigness independent in twenty twenty four. You can have a huge amount of leverage even though you don't have forty or fifty percent of the country with you so i don't think that's out of the question. 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S10 EP78: The Rise of Birthing People

The Erick Erickson Show

2:01:39 hr | 4 months ago

S10 EP78: The Rise of Birthing People

"Hello and welcome greetings. Good morning hello. Good day whatever time a day it is. You're listening idol. No it's friday. that's what i know. It is friday. We can be looser on the phone lines. You can call in eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I know i know. In fact. I just put this up on twitter. I i know there are a lot of progressives who think the republicans are stuck on stupid focusing on nonsensical issues. The cancellation dr seuss. The mr potato head stuff hamburgers. Mother's day trans women and sports all of that day. The this is all nonsensical stuff. We're dealing with the real issues but there's a problem that i don't think progressive fant. I know a ton of people who are not political who cannot believe that the world particularly the left is going crazy dell. I want to give you an example of this. There was a hearing yesterday on capitol hill and some other statements in the press and the democrats have stopped using in the lead up to mother's day. Democrats have stopped talking about women and mothers and are now using the phrase birthing people. As a mother's day weekend let us. We commit our efforts and support to ensure that every birthing person costs nation is empowered. And he'll say we have not created infrastructure to support birthing people all pregnant and birth zinc people deserve to be treated with love while black should not be a death senate health equity for blackburn attainable. Muggers in baby's in black birth and people are important. We desperately need long term fixes to support the healthcare needs of black women and birthing people most marginalized black and indigenous people to systemically. Shift the way we approach healthcare for birthing people of color and respectful of black women and birthing teeth all the maternal mortality crisis among black birthing people in the united states lack birthing people and burning people for birthing p blackburn. Birthing person all birthing arsons louisiana. Birthing people want dulas midwives and support for birthing people during the postpartum period. There are not enough work of color. Leaving black birthing people with limited autonomy or opportunity to receive racially concordant. Here tech black birthing people and to save lives. Thank you and i yield back. What is the birthing person. What what what is a birthing person. A birthing person is a woman and yet the same people who say latina cts when no one in the latino community does say that the same people who say latina cts say birthing people now. Why this you need to actually truly understand why. Why are they going with birthing. People they're going with birthing people because that's what progressives want they want to normalize in mainstream transgenderism and transgenderism women who have babies. It is men who have babies to men and women can have babies. I gotta wonder what james carville thinks about this stuff. You carve ill off the other day on on the woke. People Just infuriated by the faculty lounge conversations and this is an example of the the whole idea that we're gonna stop calling people in the lead up to mother's day somehow. We're we're not gonna say women anymore we're not gonna say moms. Were going to save birthing. People hunt on on several levels first of all. It sounds college the fact politics of the faculty lounge and in my view. If you want in politics you should speak the language. People should speak clear. Direct english at address people as address each other not like the humanities department at amherst wants you to address. Everybody's kind of an issue is this. Is this the kind of an issue. James is impossible to poll because people are gonna live to upholster but when they go in there and they close that curtain. They're going to do what they wanna do right. After the twenty twenty congressional elections it was a huge eruption at democratic caucus. Where people correctly pointed out that this whole defunding police stuff cost us congressional seats. I can look at the voting results. In and the rio grande vowed how can look at the voting results in miami dade relate conversations that i have with people every day people who live like. They're scared to address an issue because it might come out the wrong way and no one is using their language except for you know some of our people in television if you go to if you need walton just go listen to npr. I leave it out of my truck radio. So i'll never fall asleep. Y'all this this is this is not a a made up thing. This is not a made up thing. This is democratic members of congress democratic members of congress. Doing this birthing people berthiamue not women. Not mom's birthday. People in is amazing that we have reached a point in the feminist revolution. Where we've gotten rid of women. There was a story in the newspaper. Today about the olympics is going to have. Its first trans athlete. Now let me ask you a question here. The olympics is going to have. Its first trans athlete. Does that mean that it is a woman who wants to compete against men or a man who wants to compete against women. What do you think. I can tell you immediately. I don't even have to read the story to tell you. It is inevitably about a man who can't compete against other men and so decided to beat all the women and sure enough. It's a weightlifter. Who a man who can't class and get to the olympics as a man so decided to get to the olympics. As a woman. And we're supposed to this is great. It's a relic known. It's a man who can't compete against men who wants to win and so is going to deprive some woman of a mental. What if he gets beat by a woman. And now we got latino six no one says latinos except the academic leftists and now birthing people and you know by the way the left all the time says all i all you people on the right. You're just focused on these crazy issue. We're focused on jobs in the economy. People care about these. I realized the left doesn't care about these issues. But i think a great many women who took the time to birth their children care that now suddenly the left won't call them a woman or a mom but a birthing person if it's their job hi. My name is roberta and my job is to birth. People help wanted. We need birthing people. This is this is the nonsense of and again. Hey there's there's actually a higher order point here. What did i tell you yesterday. About critical theory there are dominant discourses the dominant discourses are those of the privileged elite who are considered the oppressor class. And the way you shut them up is you take away free speech and you bully and badger them into silence through stunts performance. Protest and demonstration. And you use new words we. You can't change the definition of words you use new words and you at require adherence to the new vocabulary. Why because language is where power in reality come from and if you wanna share a new reality you must change words. So we're changing the words from mom to birthing person from pregnant person to birthing person. Because they've got normalize transgenderism into normalized transgenderism. You have to get rid of well-settled biology that only a female gives birth. So we've got to shut all that down. We've got shut shutdown. Algae we've got a shutdown science and you know by the way there is actually real world fallout from the stuff can a woman get prostate cancer. No no woman can not get prostate cancer. Liam man can get prostate cancer. Only man can get cancer so you have a man who believes he's a woman and insists they put woman on all of the medical records and they're not even gonna think to look for a prostate or testicles to see what the problem is or are we now going to whole body searches. When you go in you take your son in and is your son now going to have to have a a cap smear. They're going to demand. I mean insurance is already making us pay for boys to have pep smears to spread out the cost of this is all subtle nuance seen away. Erasing the differences between men and women Feminist for years wanted us to appreciate the differences between men and women and now suddenly the differences are eroded and. We have seen people as a mother's day weekend. Let us commit efforts in support to ensure that every birthing person office mason is empowered. He'll say we have not infrastructure to support birthing people all pregnant and birthing people deserve to be treated with love birth while black should not be a debt senate health equity for blackburn. People is attainable. Muggers in baby's in black birthing people are important. We desperately need long term fixes to support the healthcare needs black women and birthing people the most marginalized black indigenous birthing people to systemically shift the way we approach healthcare for birthing people of color and respectful of black women and birthing jeep all the maternal mortality crisis among black birthing people in the united states. Black birthing people and burn people for blackburn. People and i blacked birthday person. All birthing parsons birth. People want dulas amid wise in support for birthing people. During the post artem theory there are not enough black workers of color leaving black birthing people with limited autonomy or opportunity to receive racially concordant. Here carl tech black birthing people and to save lives. Thank you and i yield back. The earth program is brought to you by first liberty building and loan in newnan georgia. The frost family of there's been doing this. Ninety three doesn't matter where you are in the nation. If you're listening to me in the united states they can help your business grow. We're talking loans access to capital six figures and higher than all do small deals. They like to do big deals with yuban. they want to help you grow. They've been a longtime sponsor the program. They're really good people. They know how to do this spin five minutes with them. And if you need something maybe less than than what they deal with for. Your business is only for businesses not for individuals. They may be able to redirect you to someone. Good go to first. Liberty dot com. I liberty gpa dot com. That's the website and thanks to them for sponsoring the program well Hiring has sharply missed expectations. Two hundred sixty six new jobs added unemployment. Unexpectedly rose to six point one percent. Why because people are disincentivize to go back to work. I got more to say on this later. But i want to talk about a georgia specific issue. I'm in georgia. Most of my listeners are in georgia this is a story out of atlanta. Georgia is relevant to every single person listening to me right now the mayor atlanta georgia echelons bottoms has decided not to seek reelection. She's a one term mayor the reason this matters to everyone because she became an international celebrity and a potential vice presidential pick during the summer. Riots after the george floyd situation kisha lands bottoms stood with the protesters against the police. Allowed the vandalism told told the residential you gotta go home mom to the crowd went out there with the protesters consoled him. Let him yell at her cried and you know at first. It looked like this was working but then she turned on the police and she made the police the bad guys and that skyrocketed her appeal on the left. She was considered i as vice presidential pick. Then she was offered a secretary of housing and urban development. By the by administration she was offered ambassadorship down. She wanted to run for reelection in atlanta and she wanted to run for reelection on doing things and in doing those new things approaching things in different ways. She made the situation worse. The city of atlanta had for so long been known as the city too busy to hate atlanta. Even though in the midst of the civil rights era with problems in segregation tended to have a number of players who were very forward thinking progressive on racial issues and began rapidly incorporating black citizens into local politics even as it self was resistant. Atlanta was pretty forward thinking in it Andrew lots of resistance but Tried to build some level of racial harmony and mayor bottoms comes in. After generations of mayors republican democrat who had strong ties to the business community and begins to pour gasoline on in straight matches to the bridges that had bound those various interests in the city. The result is a crimewave and the mayor of atlanta has tried to claim it was because of cova that other areas of the state and georgia and of the nation have seen a crimewave that it wasn't her fault. It was the crime way fault. But i'm sorry it was actually her fault. She undermined the police. She at every turn one. Are the police prosecuted for doing their job. She made them the bad guys. All of them quit most of the not all of them. Most of them quit. She did a terrible job. Keeping the people of atlanta safe and the woman who the national media treated as a hero was never really that in in the city the way the national press work. Now my point here. And the reason i talk about this is because we get this a lot. The national media props up figures around the country. Who if you only know them through the national media you may think them some sort of grand celebrity and so then you get the news that why is this person who everyone loves and adores not running for office well because she's really not as popular as the national press wants to this is from the atlanta journal constitution. Politics is a fickle beast in the span of two years atlanta mayor. Kisha lands bottoms has gone from one of joe. Biden's most prominent surrogates imported enough to get vetted as vp to abandoning. What once was considered a shoo-in reelection bid. How did bottoms go from turning down a cabinet post attorney down a chance for a second term. I some background. After narrowly winning a runoff election. For years ago the mayor introduce cycle the odds on favourite but a sixty percent spike at homicides in accusations she had become disconnected from the community serious complicated or chances in two thousand thirteen former mayor. Qassim read barely broke a sweat as he cruised or reelection. Victory scaring off any legitimate challengers but despite bottoms institutional support she's already drawn a range of credible opponents who insisted she was vulnerable in a lengthy statement thursday night bottoms nodded to an internal poll leaked to insiders at the atlanta journal constitution. That showed her with a sixty eight percent approval rating. She also noted her financial firepower most notably a fundraiser headlined by joe biden at the end of march that raised more than five hundred twenty. Five thousand dollars is she. Afraid of competition never bottoms wrote a for self. I have engaged in several facing multiple candidates and never once coward from the competition bottoms. Posted her statement frame does a letter to the city at deer. l. dot com which also featured a highly produced video of the mayor essentially saying goodbye city. All what her statement lacked was any sort of explanation about why she's not running our allies or filling the void. They say she genuinely believed she could get a second term but past because she felt her motivation staffing. She just didn't have her heart in it. she most certainly did not have hard in it. But here's the thing. The national media does this all the time. This is just a story of atlanta. This is a story of the mayor of portland. Oregon who the media heralded as a hero against donald trump. This is the story of the governor of new york who the media heralded as a hero against donald trump. this is the story of anyone who stands up and opposes. Remember the the the woman down in puerto rico who turns out. She was corrupted. hoarding stuff. That was supposed to go to people for hurricane relief but she liked to take shots at donald trump for the media loved her same with key chalance bottoms in atlanta the national media vets. These people praises these people builds these people up and it turns out their own voters. Don't particularly care for them or their scandal plagued and you never hear about it. Hello there welcome back at zero keurigs in here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five caitlyn. Jenner was on with. Sean hannity on fox news last night. This is kind of bizarre He will let me read you in each. forgive me. i won't correct the pronouns. of course you know. Caitlin jenner is not a woman but is transgender and the media of course decides we have to use preferred pronouns. Gop recall candidate caitlyn. Jenner may have played right into democratic governor gavin newsom zillions when she lamented. I'm sorry when he lamented on fox news. A neighboring private plane owner at his airport hangar is abandoning california because he can't take seeing homeless people anymore in his first interview as a political candidate. Jenner told fox news host. Sean hannity on wednesday that he liked how former president donald trump shook up. The system supported us border wall effort and hasn't agreed with anything. President joe biden is done this year but it was his plane anecdote that went viral. The guy right across. He was packing his hangar. Jenner said during the sit down in his own southern california plane hangar. And he says. I'm moving to sedona arizona. I can't take it anymore. Can't walk down the street and see the homeless in less than twenty four hours. That common has drawn more than five million views on twitter and prompted a caustic string of rebukes potshots in one liners mocking the tv reality star as being out of touch. It raised the more serious question of whether in one brief moment the candidate disarmed one of the republicans most effective caricatures of the wealthy democratic governors tone-deaf leader who dined at the french laundry. During the pandemic i would think so. Who gets on television in their private plane. Hangar and says california so bad the other. The owner of the plane hangar across romy me was packing up and moving to sedona arizona because all the homeless people. He was rather bizarre by the way. Overshadows kevin as well kevin fowler so a lot of the trump team is surrounding caitlyn jenner. And there's actually a real credible republican kevin falconer. Who could win this is. It's a bizarre celebrity stunt. It seems Jitter gist seems this point. Addicted to fame and members of the trump team surrounded him. And i guess is brad per involved. Somebody from the trump team is involved trying to claim that jenner is the trump candidate. I heard time believing that. Purely when kevin falconer is a more credible candidate but this certainly helps gavin newsom. Now the media wisdom on the recall. I to get there. We need to jump across the pond so to speak. I wanna talk about this story. You're not going to care about. I know i care about the story. And i want you to care about the story because the story actually says a ton not about this story but about our own story in this country. The tories the conservative party in great britain They have what are called. Elections by elections are So you have the national. Parliamentary elections get called at every five years. The prime minister can call them sooner than that. Although now they fairly well codified the five year thing and but but is able to occasionally adjourn. parliament. Get the queen to consent to german parliament and colin election. And it happens and the tories. Of course with boris. Johnson swept huge victory. And we've had brexit. We've had the brexit deal supposedly. Everyone is unhappy. It's a terrible deal and now they've had the by-elections which are essentially the elections for cities and town councils across great britain and some scottish preliminary elections and a welsh parliamentary elections and the conservatives have done quite well and the media. Would you would have known the conservatives. Were going to do well in great britain because of the media david. Cameron and theresa may were prime minister in great britain. They were held for their cosmopolitan values. Their support of the european union and their global stature and their moderation the american and international press may not have liked them because they were conservatives but they were cosmopolitan they were. They were globalist elite They believed in all the right things that a conservative believe in and get favorable. Press theresa may of course very famously called an election and expected to boost her numbers parliament so that she could secure her brexit deal and Conservative support collapsed. They were barely able to get anything through a broken and battered. She had to step aside. Boris johnson came in and every one of the press ridiculed. Boris johnson johnson has had landslide after landslide victory and even now in britain the meteor routinely ridicules him and yet. He is able to do very very well in english councils of the by election. The tories have picked up fifty nine seats. The labour party that the chief labor party on the other side is down. sixty nine seats snotty good set-up. they're still killing votes. They do paper ballots in britain. Now i talk about britain because we need to go back to the media conventional wisdom here and to caitlyn jenner and to misunderstandings intend to tie medically this entire hour together. But you've got the people in this country who used the phrase latina cts. They're now using the phrase birthing people and the media not only these big deal but largely embraces it in the media embracing it in in the left using it. They think that it's no big deal. Everybody they know agrees with the terminology. How could you not you big it. They prop up nationally. Candidates like land's bottom or they look on the ridicule that they look on and ridicule the run the the recall in california's who on earth would possibly go along with this gavin newsom as awesome and they keep missing it they keep missing it because the media by and large is in a bubble. They're out to lunch. They are of the elite and the league. Time and time again are starting to be proven. Wrong i mean let's just let's roll the tape shall we if you move the embassy to jerusalem. You're going to start a war. Did it habit if you recognize israeli sovereignty and you get out of the iran deal. You're going to provoke global. You're gonna spark a middle eastern war. Did it happen. You're never gonna be able to get these individual islamic countries to have peace deals with israel. Really if you get out of the paris climate accord is gonna make things so much worse really time and again. Oh and let's remember. They ridiculed romney back in. Two thousand twelve for saying russia was a geopolitical threat for years before suddenly they wanted us to believe the russians stole the election. Really donald trump will never win conservatives are over conservatives have are a dying group. The republican party will never win a major elections in this country. Again all of these things we hear all the time from an elite media that that It's a circle of jerks. They sit around with left-wing fantasies. And they get it wrong all the time it. It's not just here. It is a global issue. They have underestimated. Boris johnson the uk constantly. They have laughed at him. They have lampooned him. They have ridiculed him. They've said he couldn't get brexit deal done. Everyone was unhappy with brexit deal. The the the latest deal was going to tear everything up. Labor was gonna come sweeping back in great britain and they've got it wrong in this country. They say the days the republican party or over. They've been saying. The days of the republic party were over since richard nixon's election because demography is destiny. Things are changing in. The republican. Party is gonna die. they myself included. I i didn't see trump winning twenty sixteen. The media overall completely didn't see it and then you know unlike me and them when trump won in two thousand sixteen. I actually wrote at the time that it required all of us to understand what we got wrong and exercise some humility in. What did we miss because clearly we miss something other than i realized. Hillary clinton was deeply unpopular. I couldn't fathom people vote for donald trump in two thousand sixteen. I didn't support him in two thousand sixteen and ultimately decided. I needed to reassess. What was i missing. What was i out to lunch on. And what i was missing what i was out to lunch on is. I was too busy reading the front pages of the newspapers which were in fact not giving me the full story of what was going on and it forced me to do better and do more research and read more sources and dive deeper to understand. There is a real discontent in this country and our deep distrust of experts expertise and the elite who frequently get things wrong and unfortunately we live in a country and this is where i think a lot of it comes from is there are a lot of real experts that we need real experts things. You don't want joe blow building a nuclear reactor. You want an actual expert. Who knows how to build a nuclear reactor. The problem is the nuclear reactor expert goes on. Cnn starts mouthing off about politics is if they're an expert on politics and they devalue in decrepit themselves there's no recognition of humility and that i think is the underlying issue in all of this. There really is no humility in the media anymore. They continue to get stories log light. The rudy giuliani story last week. Earlier this week there's no underlying humility. They believe the world is so all evidence to the contrary must be ignored as some sort of partisan wing spin. They dismissed the recall of gavin. Newsom though while be right about this caitlyn. Jenner interview was bizarre. They miss the nuances of the recall. The pain of small businesses the frustration of people in california. They don't understand the anxiety of parents in northern virginia whose kids can't go back to school because local school awards despite all the evidence or refusing to go back to school they miss the outrage employers and the employees who've taken the time to go back to work that the slackers are still out there collecting unemployment and not going back to work making everybody else's job and the media covers for the democrats as well as it really contributing people need this money. These people are out to lunch. No idea these are the people who use latino. These are the people who listen to democrats using the phrase people instead of mothers in the run-up to mother's day and seen nothing wrong with it and wonder why are the rest of you people wise enough in open minded enough intolerant enough to use birthing version. Cause the man may get pregnant and have a period the rest of us look at it at the hell is going on which going on is a progressive elite who set cultural opinion any country where most the people are down with it but the cultural elite in this country makeup not just an elite wealthy class of people but also the reporter class that increasingly doesn't understand the rest of us and so they live in a bubble in that bubble. They believe the world works in a way. The world doesn't actually work and they think the rest of us live in a bubble in believe the world doesn't work in the way that actually works but the way the world actually works. We realize that we recognize that we talk about it and the way the world works it actually works the way we says say it does and the media does no it no impossible. It's an anomaly. An anomaly donald trump. What it's an anomaly. it's an anomaly. That the republicans weren't devastated in two thousand and twenty. It's an anomaly. Just wait another two years. The republican days are doomed. Because that's what my politically elite bubble friends. Tell me actually gives conservatives whether they're in great britain or france or here or wherever gives them some bit of an advantage because the left is so convinced they're bubble. The world works in a way. It doesn't actually work. They never see his coming. And we keep actually winning. And so i would tell you. Don't lose heart. Don't lose faith. Don't get discourage don't get angry. Be happy warriors and laugh at this nonsense. Laugh at the birthing people ben shapiro. Let me read you. A tweet from ben shapiro because he makes a really good point and it's a point. I think a lot of people will that not only do they miss it. But they scoffed at shapiro for making the point yesterday and it highlights perfectly the grand divide in the country right now according to this shapiro according to the left berthier purpan persons jess state meaningless clusters of cells which are assigned sex at birth in only later decide their gender but somehow you're the culture war aggressor if you deny any element of this utterly insane. Yes my favorite game is the wire you even paying attention to this routine where you notice the radical redefinition of basic human biology. We're noticing because as stated you're insisting that society speak lies about fundamental truth. Yes that's exactly. And so we keep pulling the wool over their eyes or they keep pulling the wool over their own eyes and we keep surprising them in dazzling them in winning. It makes them angry. That were winning and so they'd have to go there just their minority party. Well you know. We're winning under the rules. Set which is why they have to stabilize the whole system. that's why they have to evaluate discredited. Say it's immoral. Say it's the founding. The founding fathers were all a bunch of slaveholders advancing slavery so they can discredit the whole thing and try to undermined it but they can't help themselves in pushing the boundaries beyond in areas. No one wants to go. And voters are voting because their culture's under attack they think neither party can fix or harm the economy so much but they see one party destroying not just their community but their culture and their standing up black white hispanic standing up and they're voting republican now and the democrats can't understand what's going on. Hi there it. Is eric erickson here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five by the way all our globally elite complaining the united states and greenhouse gas emissions global warming the like and how we ourselves need to cut our emissions by fifty percent of the next ten years and give up beef. Become vegetarians walk. Everywhere live in big cities. Despite a pandemic chinese greenhouse gas emissions larger than those of developed countries combined according to the washington post china now accounts for twenty seven percent of global emissions was united states accounts for eleven percent china's greenhouse gas emissions in twenty thousand nine surpassed those of the united states and the developed world combined. According to an analysis published thursday by the research firm rhodium group. China's share of global emissions rose to twenty seven percent of the world's total while the united states remained the second largest emitter at eleven percent india's year came third at six point. Six percent. Edging out the twenty seven nations in the european union which accounted for six point. Four percent. the report found china. India and other developing nations have long noted that over the past century. The united states in europe grew their economies while generating massive amounts of greenhouse gases. And that requiring. The developing world to clamp down on emissions as they industrialise and be millions of citizens into the middle class is unfair but with the effects of climate. Change intensifying pressure growing for countries to do more to hit the targets of the paris. Climate accord the developed world has sought make china india and other developing nations of central part of the global push to restrict emissions for the sake of the planet those emissions include six key gases as changes resulting from deforestation and land use. So it's not us. It's not our fault. In fact our emissions today are less than they were in two thousand in the year two thousand. We've been doing a very good job in this country and yet still the left demands we do more essentially. They don't want us to be able to compete anymore. If you were the chinese whitten you be funding. The environmentalist movement in the united states in europe whitten. Ub subsidizing gritted. Jon berg to go around the world on a boat and scowl at white liberal elites until him stop doing what you're doing all the while china ignores them. I don't know the china's doing that. If i were the dictator china i sure as heck would be propping up these left wing clauses in the west the demand the west scuttle their economies ruined their development. Stop building other militaries in the name of saving the planet. I would totally be doing that. It seems logical thing that you would do. If you were china you want to grow and be more powerful and see the other side. Weakened why not pay people to advocate for weakening themselves and you'll notice joe biden is going along with the weakening by demanding. We make draconian cuts in this country all while china refuses. Hello and welcome in his eric. Erickson here the eric erickson shows the fall. Number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Y'all i if you weren't here in the last hour. I'm gonna play this montage from this capitol hill hearing of these members of congress These are the progressive democrats. They were having a hearing on Healthcare in black communities and the like and they no longer use the word woman They use the word birthing people. These are the same people. Use the word latina. Six with the latino community does And a number of you have a hard time believing this is real. It actually is very real as of day weekend. Let us commit our efforts in support to ensure that every birthing person office mason is empowered. Feels say we have not created infrastructure to support birthing people. All pregnant and birth people deserve to be treated with love. Bergen while blacks should not be a death sentence health equity for blackburn. People is attainable. Muggers in baby's in black birthing people are important. We desperately need long term fixes to support the healthcare needs of black women birthing people the most marginalized black and indigenous birthing people to systemically shift the way we approach healthcare for birthing people of color and respectful of black women inverting jeep all the maternal mortality crisis among black birthing people and united states lack birthing people and birthing people for birthing people black people and black birthday person for all her sins at birth people want dulas amid wise in support for birthing. Old post artem theory. There are not enough black workers of color leaving blackburn people with limited autonomy or opportunity to receive racially concordant. Here carl tech black birthing people and to save lives. Thank you. And i yield back. That was an actual congressional hearing where the democrats now use the phrase birthing people to talk about. Mom's happy birthday day folks. Let's go to the phones on this very issue chris. Welcome to the program eric. Thanks enjoying the show. As always i had a point i wanted to make about the birthing people wanting which is easy to. It's easy to go and look at that and think about the gender inclusive nonsense that the left is trying to do but it also highlights the the desire to destroy the individual for the sake of the collective. Because if you're a mom you have an identity you know you have an identity as a mom to these kids whereas if you're a person you can be just anybody in that collective sides. Oh that's a really good point. Yeah he does very much do that if if you're if you're a mom mom signals you're just connected you're connected to child but if you're a birthing burson while you just pushed a child out moved on. It's very creepy. I mean they have you read the or hopefully haven't seen i don't know They had made tale nonsense. It's a terrible terrible book and yet the left loves it and it's essentially You've got birthing people. You got the women who their their job is essentially to to give birth And the left always wants to say it's donald trump and the right making this gilead place or whatever out of that book and yet here's the left devaluing women and turning them into birthing people. It's just it's it's a job function. It's a biological function You've got poop people in people and you've got birthing people. Just that's a very good point on the collective. Chris thank you very much for the phone call have a great weekend It just yes. It's it really does it. It takes out the collective nonsense speaking of the collective nonsense. That's out there right now. Y'all the economy is actually not doing well. And it's the biggest miss we have seen in the economy In the in the jobs report in a very long time. Here's the coverage from cnbc. Let's get to stave 'cause he's got the number two. Okay good one point eight. The number Wow it just came across gimme a second here We have the number here just came across sorry about that. It came across very quickly here. It looks like two hundred and sixty six thousand. It looks like it was a big disappointment at two sixty six. But maybe i have that wrong. Let me double check the bureau website here. One second Yes to sixty six is correct. Unemployment changed little change of six point one percent. So we have some issues here. Sixty six thousand employ revision. Yes last seventy versus nine sixteen. Yes minus seventy eight thousand on the revision. If we look at manufacturing change of priva- payrolls. it was only two hundred. Eighteen thousand manufacturing minus eighteen thousand the unemployment rate one up to six point one average hourly earnings rocketing up seven tenths year-over-year up three tenths on earnings and average workweek. Strong thirty five and here. We go sixty one point. Seven on the labor force participation participation rate. That's not good not good at all. As a matter of fact it's this is the this is how bad it is. Listen to this commentary on. Cnbc help our viewers understand. We'll get to roku live nation. Of course peleton beyond meets And a bunch of others as futures have moved around a bit on that big miss on jobs. worst miss. we're told since ninety eight or back. The worst miss on jobs since nineteen ninety eight in the biden economy. I'm sure they'll find a way to blame. Donald trump for the stuff by the way. I'm sure they will find a way to blame. Donald trump South carolina has joined montana in rejecting federal benefits. It turns out that the economy is seven million workers short to get the economy going again We have high unemployment. we're having an increasing flow of labor. This is part of the problem. Here there are people going back into the workforce right now. We have the worst missing unemployment numbers since one thousand nine hundred. Ninety eight unemployment has gone back up a little bit. Only two hundred. Some odd thousand jobs created they revised al last butts numbers from nine hundred thousand seven hundred thousand and the people are going back to work are people who are in white collar jobs more or less in some blue collar industrial jobs. It's the service industry. That's still struggling to get people back uber and lift or raising prices because they can't get workers to they can't get people to drive and it is the the Unemployment benefit from the federal government. That is impacting. This in the left of course won't get rid of it because the left is advocates a universal basic income and they view this unemployment benefit as a back door to a universal basic income the result of which is they're gonna keep it and it's going to keep people from going back to work and that's going to cause wages to rise as the employers have to raise rates to bring people back which the left is a good thing but that's going to call a spillover effect prices going up that's going to cause inflation that's going to force the fed to raise interest rates in that is going to spark a financial crisis in this country. People are disincentivize to go back to work. The result is south carolina's state after montana to reject the federal unemployment extension. They've decided that they're not going to continue to subsidize unemployment for people because they need people to work but also there's this this is from the new york times. The federal the american jobs engine slowly markedly slowed markedly last month confounding rosy forecasts of the pace of the recovery and sharpening debates over how best to revive a labor market that was severely weakened by the coronavirus employers added two hundred sixty six thousand jobs in april. The government reported friday morning far below the vigorous gains registered in march. The jobless rate rose to six point one percent as more people rejoined the labor force. People they fell out and now they're starting to come back and look for jobs and is causing the employment. Go up but it turns out. It's easier to put an economy into a coma than waking up. Diane swonk chief economist for the accounting firm grant. Thorton said it's understandable. It's gonna take time. The alliance for american manufacturing blamed supply chain problems for the loss of eighteen thousand jobs of the sector noting in particular the impact that a shortage of semiconductors has had all the automotive industry and many offices are not yet ready to reopen fully been hers on executive director of us economics at the financial services. Company i h s market agreed a single report with unexpected weakness and job. Gains is not a cause for concern. Demand is picking up activities. picking up. but there's a problem one reason. Some people aren't going back into the workforce childcare responsibilities. Their kids are still home in blue states in democratic states. Families can't go back to work because there's nobody to take care of the kids. They need the schools to babysit the kids. But also there's the overly generous government jobless benefits including a temporary three hundred dollar week. Federal stipend part of the emergency pandemic really. That isn't gonna expire until september we're having labor shortages and as well. We've got the issue of going back to the office winner. People are gonna go back to the office. It's time to go back to the office. This is scott gottlieb. He was on with shepard smith last night. Listen to this. We've seen all the data. It looks fantastic doctor at this rate if things fall our way with the vaccines when do you think the cdc can have a meaningful conversation about lifting the mask mandates indoors. I think we can do it right around now. I think we should start lifting these restrictions. As i think we should start lifting restrictions as aggressively as we put them in. We need to preserve the credibility of public health officials to perhaps re implement some of these provisions as we get into next winter. If we do start seeing outbreaks again. I think the only way to earn public credibility is to demonstrate that you willing to relax these provisions when a situation improves. That's what gives you the credibility to implement them when things worse. And so i think as we get into may as we see prevalence levels start to decline even further. Especially if you're in environments where you know you have a high high prevalence of vaccination where you have a lot of vaccinated people. I don't think you you have to contain these mask. Mandates since you say that i'm fully vaccinated everybody on my team in this building is fully vaccinated. We still distance. We still wear masks at every moment. That i'm not sitting out here and way distanced. Should we be taking our mass off. Do we need to wear those anymore. I think over the course of this month. We're going to see the picture improve sharply enough that by the end of the month. We're gonna be lifting. These mask. mandate certainly outdoors. I think you're going to start to see municipalities. Lift the mask mandates for indoors as well. Certainly we get into towards the end of may and into june. I think it's going to be self evident that the prevalence has declined to levels with a risk. Just isn't what it was. We've yes it's time to lift the mask mandate. I'm an advocate of masks. Or i was not anymore i'm vaccinated. I should be able to live without a mask. We got to reopen business. Stop disincentivising people from going back to work. We gotta get kids back in school. They're following behind. Zoom is no substitute for in person. Learning zoom is no substitute for in person. Meeting people need to be in their offices. It's time to open offices now. It is time to get people back to work. It's time to get america going again. The biden administration seems fearful and held hostage by union interests and labor rights groups. The media does not complain because the media was so opposed to donald trump and they are so held hostage within the blue bubble as well that they see nothing wrong with it. The economic date is a big warning. Sign the economy is not growing the way they thought it was. Jobs are not coming back the way they thought it was south carolina and in montana getting rid of the federal labour benefit dot rhonda. Sant this morning to signaling. He might. I suspect you'll find texas georgia in other states soon Red states republican states. That want to get their economies going. They soon will stop taking the federal labour benefit. They should if they can. People have been disincentivize from going back to work. It's time to get people back to the office. It's time to open doors. It's time to get america going again. In the biden administration seems incapable or unwilling to do it because of conflicting interests within the biden administration. And that's going to have long term ramifications and they're big spending package is going to spark inflation and that's going to be a whole nother bag. Were in fact. 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The federal reserve warned in a report. Thursday in its semi annual financial stability report. The central bank said that while the system overhaul has remained largely stable even through cova future dangers arising investors have snapped up equities corporate bonds and cryptocurrency. They've poured billions into black a blank. Check companies called aspects and the market has been mostly brisk for traditional initial public offerings. Jerome powell the fed chair and others have been asked repeatedly about whether the concerned about rising prices powell specifically said that as long as interest rates are low. The valuations are justified however the report notes. There's a danger lurking should market cinema. Change you've got people pouring money into the stock market right now as if it's a slot machine and they keep getting wins. The good times are gonna stop rolling here soon with interest rates. Do start to go up. The market's going to come back down now. Look i'm not into giving you financial advice but it really concerns me. Seen the way the market is reacting to every news good and bad by going up crypto currency markets. Going up up up it troublesome to me that this is happening were seeing the skyrocketing rate here. And there's really no explanation for it. Other than people got stimulus jackson. They're throwing their money into the stock market because they see it go up and a lotta people. Forget that what goes up. We'll come down in the stock market and you make gain slowly over time these wild fluctuations in speculation the stock market. They're actually not healthy for the economy and they're not healthy for the market. They're not healthy for the line companies. And they're certainly not healthy for the people who buy the stocks. If you've got some spare cash she just want to gamble. Okay and i guess. A lot of people have spare cash because of the stimulus checks but we got problems on the horizon. I am not a financial expert by any means. I gotta have people help me time budgeting but i can see. There's a problem. And if i can see. It is a clearly obvious problem out there on the horizon and somebody is going to have to do something because we're gonna see inflation among other things at the moment we get real inflation and it's happening and you see it and you hear it from from companies around the country but the federal reserve is doing their best not to see it when they can't not help but see it. We're going to have problems up. Chip roy the congressman from texas joins me. Welcome back two zero jurickson here. The erc your show. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven. Four to five joining me. The congressman from the great state of texas. My friendship roy. How are you eric. I'm just doing great. We've got a beautiful day. Here in austin texas i'm not marching in dc. So life's pretty good. Is there ever a bad day. In austin i mean even when it rains is just pretty awesome. Well you know this happens to be a spectacular day It it's probably seventy degrees. Big sky You know a day. God made for us to be outside and and You know we appreciate you you and your show because you know you talk a lot about faith talk a lot about freedom and the things we're all fighting for and care about but sometimes you want to take a step back and look how to god's creation and it'd be happy stop wringing our hands about all this political nonsense. Well let me ask you. You bring up austin and let me ask you. This thorough wildcard at you. Know the austin city council decided to allow street camping and intern downtown austin into a homeless paradise. It seems and the voters rose up went to the polls got the ordinance repealed and it just seems like the mayor in council. There are divided. And we're we're somehow now saying it's okay that we're just going to let the homeless people sleep on the streets and and as way to abdicate responsibility while same. We're fixing the problem. Well yeah look at the austin city council. Is you know kind of of the vein if your listeners. Don't understand it san francisco. But i think texas. Is you know conservative. Your friend and mine governor. Rick perry referred to austin as the blueberry in the tomato soup for for many years. And and it's a true true depiction of what you're actually dealing with. It's pretty crazy liberal. I happen to represent downtown. Austin been represent south boston at least for now and we'll see what happens in redistricting but look the mayor the city council. They're fully out of step with normal texas values. We here's what's interesting though so our friend makoviac and some republicans here travis county. I worked hard on. It pushed out the vote we worked hard to have this to restore the camping ban In put that in place This we believe pro homeless by the way to not have camping extremes right and so we were advocating for that and we won. We won fairly decisively under the final number was but it was a good ten point. Victory keep in mind the voters who voted Basically twenty percent of them were registered republicans but fifty five percent registered democrats and of the remaining voters. Seventy five percent of them voted democrat primaries. You're talking about seventy percent of the voters were democrats and we won because we're talking about law and order common sense. We have great programs great programs in texas that are built on the back of christian charity to go out and create places to get people off the streets. Help them Get an home but also help them have tools to be able to avoid substance abuse. And you know deal with mental health issues and a lot of the things that plague our homeless community. And obviously you've got better than that too. And that's what we all want right as christians. We want to make sure we're not turning our back on the poor we. We're called christians to You know look out for the least among us and we know that and you know that That the wrong way to do that is to just say. Oh yeah go ahead and camp on our streets. Create a dangerous situation. Share needles have drugs Have rapes occurring and parks In endanger of the homeless population as well as the citizens of austin this is the kind of crazy leftist policies that people recognize or failed. And we need to push back on it. Hard right now and i was proud to austin. Push back this time i. I'm glad they did. I been christie. Kids wanna come over. And i'm just i've been a little bit hesitant given the situation now. I want to shift gears. Because i don't know if you've heard of the jobless numbers Came back pretty poorly. It's the worst miss of expectations and twenty nine. Twenty eight or twenty nine years and biden administration is in the last fifteen minutes said This means that we need to continue and possibly extend unemployment benefits to people when you've got a lot of economists in and Ill the employers state actually. It's the extension of unemployment benefits keeping people coming back. Yeah li literally. Whatever the biden administration says do the opposite and our country will thrive. that is the rule. Because that's that's literally what we're seeing unfold before our eyes right. If you wanted to have a danger to your communities and dangerous immigrants you would have a wide open border policy like they have. If you wanted to kill jobs and kill economic growth you. Would you spend six trillion dollars over the last year and pay people not work. When i go around the district. I represent and throughout the state of texas. The number one problem for small businesses is no longer covert. It's that they can't hire people every single restaurant every single small businesses or they doing. They haven't help wanted signs up there posting on their website. Go click on any website. You're going to see a window pop up that says we need labor. We need help. How is that possible right. Oh we need more unemployment benefits. No we need workers. We need to have an economy growing and thriving. We need to stop telling people to be afraid of virus. Go out get your vaccine or you know. Live off your antibodies. If you had the virus you know i was. I was one of those that got the virus In january so go for get out in the in the community and go engage by stop and tell stuff that's how our economy works. But no the wisdom from dc is. Let's just keep paying people not to work because they wanna have socialized welfare. That's their goal. So we're going to have to push back on that and frankly use these numbers to demonstrate why democrat policies are killing the backbone of the american economy small businesses. While you and i are sitting here discussing this. Paul krugman is right now on twitter. Saying maybe it's the data that's wrong may- maybe the unemployment numbers wrong and and we need to rethink how we're doing the data collection. Just you know you. You can't make this up community in all seriousness. Write this stuff matters you know. I don't pretend to know what the exact right corporate tax rates should be or individual rates. I don't pretend to know all the you know specific policies. We can have those debates spending and how to balance the budget but guys. This economy works and literally fuels the world if you let it. That was the great thing we learned in the reagan era and even the trump era As well in terms of getting regulations out of the way having a tax policy to create economic growth then you have You know Uncompetitive growth and we drive the world and everything's great and you have a virus and they say okay. Let's just throw it every principal you've ever understood about how this country works and that's the democratic model. And you know i'm i'm always loathe to say. Oh let's just focus on republicans taking back the house and so forth because then it's an excuse for republicans to be wimpy But we do have to focus very much right now on getting democrats out of power but in doing so we need to make sure. We're we're advocating a vision. That people want to get behind. I agree so. Let's talk about that vision. I am a while. I like liz gene and we've always had a cordial relationship. I don't know where well it seems like. Your job is to as the republican conference chair unite the party behind the common message and the common message. The republicans are united behind his. Maybe it's time for you to step aside and it seems like we're we've got the media focusing on this issue to avoid focusing on everything else and it's become a distraction from us being able to actually have a winning message in two thousand twenty two you know i'm i'm i'm one hundred percent there and it's it's a real problem i think Liz is you know. She's going to have to Reconcile herself with the fact that she's going to be stepping down. I think that's week If she doesn't resign she's going to be voted out of office. And you know. Look my view on. This is pretty simple. She has a job to do to reflect the conference and she is I think unwisely and strategically Basically forfeited or her ability to be the chair There was a way to talk about the vision of going forward in this country without focusing on the election that we could have all rallied around and what it was what my hope was in february but she You know unfortunately chose battles were foolish path. And so now. She's going to no longer be the chair. So i think that's fine. Let's move on now. The question is what do we do. Next and I believe we need to focus a forward looking vision and not backward looking and look i'm going to be blunt here a least a phonic. Whoever wanted to leadership is now pushing and even the former president back is not that i mean. Her voting record is atrocious. literally opposed the president's litigation strategy on obamacare. She literally was on the bad side of immigration and twenty seventeen in opposing. The the strong border scary bills that would have given a strong border. Security that resulted in a lot of americans throwing the house. Republicans out on their ear which ultimately resulted impeachment She voted for. Hr five the equality act She i go down. A laundry list devoted to turn trump's ban on the transgender stuff and in the military. I mean it it. They really striking voting record and It's it's unfortunate that the leadership wants to gonna. That's not the message we want to send. We need clear message. In a vision of limited government of getting the government out of our way to allow the american people to go to thrive to get economic growth back to have a strong border that we believe is pro america pro immigrant anti-cartel stand with israel have strong judges. Just frankly rebuild and and make sure that this country is is carrying forward in our core american values. Especially you look for to twenty twenty six when we're going to be celebrating our two hundred and fiftieth birthday as a nation. Let's let's go back to the things that we know work for us. Which is faith in god. Limited government following the constitution the rule of law but importantly empowering the people and I don't believe that's what we're hearing out of this current leadership What's folks on that. Let's just go forward and lead amen to that You know. I think the way to lead. It's one i i see. Democrats repeatedly ridiculing us for highlighting their cultural absurdities from wanting to ban burgers to this thing yesterday of the all the democrats in that hearing referring to birthing people instead of the moms in the run-up to mother's day and it seems to me. That i you. And i don't know anyone outside of liberals in congress who used the word latina cts and the american people i think actually are kind of clue factor. This is all sorts of nutty stuff. And we're not the culture fighters here. We're we're just defending american culture and it does seem to me that there is a cultural play here as we've seen it resonate with black and hispanic voters moving towards the gop because of this insanity on the left is at an event in austin last night with vice president pence backup. I see 'em again today at an event Where we've got a number of folks here we've got into santa's coming and talking to a group here Governor abbott is going to be speaking. We've got a number of other high-profile for folks. Mike pompeo's here right now. Talking i stepped out be. Why do i bring that up because when we were talking about these issues last night in broad sense you think about why. President trump was popular. Why is popular particularly among you know republican actors but in general think about what we did in south texas right. We wanna areas of south texas. We haven't ever we haven't won you know in in ways in terms of inspiring hispanic voters Really in the history of the republican party. Why because frankly most americans Regardless of what their background is regardless of the color of their skin regardless of their sex and there isn't back to sex 'cause everybody's wondering they want to Believe in their country but they want people to be straight. They want people to do what they said they were going to do. They want people to just be common exercise. Common sense right that there is man there is woman that we do have mothers that we do You know have a a a nation did not have a homeless encampments in the capital city of texas. You know that we should have in fact secure border. As a sovereign nation that of course reflects our our values of wanting immigrants to come to the united states but is secure and not run by cartels then. Of course we don't want china to over Run us overtake us and have a complete stranglehold on our medical supply that of course we want to have schools that don't teach critical race theory and they don't teach that god doesn't exist that we just wanna be able to go about our lives and be able to go without frankly the poor getting left ostracized and unable to have options because rich liberal elites. Tell them how they have to live their lives. Most americans believe all that and frankly president trump set a lot of that stuff and they said well he met and so republicans need to remember that but we need to be able to continue that message going forward in a way that builds with a vision rather than frankly folks backwards on last november. Ame into that. Listen is always a pleasure to talk to you. And i i've i've got more to say on at least two phonic but i'm not gonna have you stick around and get you tied to what i'm going to say but i i appreciate you appreciate very much you you said and i just man. We got redistricting on our side. We've got the american people tired of this cultural woke nonsense on our side. And it looks like we're gonna have economic calamity because abidance policies on our side. Unfortunately and i can't believe that were here fighting internally within the republican party yet again or at least having the media provoke us to do it. Well we wouldn't be republicans. We weren't looking to find every way possible to You know Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as they say but look. There's a lot of us who get it or out there talking about the right things. We're going to keep doing it. You keep doing what you're doing Give my best year beautiful bride and family and on next week and we'll keep going. I'll do it. Thanks for being always. Good here. Hear congressman roy of texas. Glad to have him with me I i gotta say this he actually is a very dear friend and we we he is somewhat here intentionally because he is realizes i've been getting worn out doing as much as i've been doing on on radio of lately and so he stepped up and said just having me on all the time and talk So he's good friend and he's right and i got i. I wanna talk about elise stefanik. 'cause i think the gop is about to make a terrible mistake. Can you should know why when we come back. Hello and welcome back. It's eric erickson here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four two five one of the signature achievements of donald trump's administration was the tax cuts and jobs. Act of two thousand seventeen that allow american corporations to repatriate piles of cash give their employees major bonuses and fired up the economy without using federal tax dollars. A increasingly prominent. Republican voted against it. This same republican voted for amnesty voted for the dream act for the dreamers voted against both of the goodlatte immigration reform plans. One was fairly conservative. One was fairly moderate voted to terminate president trump's emergency declaration to fund. The wall voted to override a president trump's funding of the wall condemned president trump for filing a lawsuit to end. Obamacare voted to override president trump's transgender troop policy supported. The far left equality act supported the climate action now act. The far left environmentalists policy. That would wreck. The american economy voted to override president. Trump's veto of the indie a the defense legislation voted to ban drilling in the eastern gulf of mexico voted for the democrats fever dream legislation delivering for america. Act that that was part of their Push to claim that the president was tried to destroy. The post office voted to fund the department of homeland security without money for the border wall voted to block funding the border wall and cosponsored the fairness for all act another left wing fever dream piece of legislation. The person who did all of that is at least stefanik. At least two phonic voted for all these left wing ideas and voted against mini conservative ideas of the trump administration. I wonder if president trump knows that she voted against his tax cuts plan. I wonder if president trump no. She voted against his border wall plan. I wonder if sh- president trump knows. She voted for amnesty. I wonder if president trump knows voted to oppose his lawsuit against obamacare. I wonder if president trump knows at least two phonic voted to override his transgender troop policy. I wonder if president trump knows she voted for the far left equality act and the climate action now act and the delivering for america act and the fairness for all act in the indie. A in on and on it goes. I wonder if president trump knows that. I bet he doesn't and that's part of the problem we're dealing with here is that the president has people around him who advise him on these things and they don't necessarily know he doesn't necessarily know he doesn't necessarily have the background and they do and they haven't shared it with the. Why is kevin mccarthy pushing her. Why is kevin mccarthy supporting. The least ifan acquires kevin mccarthy. This i i don't care about this. Cheney of this moment i it's clear she's not gonna be around for a while but why is at least phonic. The replacement wind. She opposed all of the major initiatives of donald trump. This seems like something that should be a big deal for everybody right. It seems like something that people should focus on right. Why why you stefanik the chosen one win. She opposed every single thing out of the trump administration. That you like. Why are we allowing kevin mccarthy to sell donald trump on elise stefanik. You guys are you in favor of amnesty. Because she is. Are you in favor of the persecution of churches in america. Because she is. Are you in favour of getting rid of president. Trump's tax cuts. Because she is. Are you in favor of expanding. The post offices reach in america because she is are you in favor of cutting all the funding for the border wall because she is everything that the president supported every major signature initiative of his administration. At least two phonic voted against. Why would they put her in his conference chair. That's a question that these people need to answer because this is a big warning warning flag for me that she's probably not the person for the job. Hello and welcome in his eric. Erickson here delighted to have you with me across the nation. The phone number. If you'd like to be a part of this program. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five I am going to have something out on at least if phonics record here shortly. Just a understand. This isn't about liz. Cheney is about at least two phonic y is the gop advocating for her to be in leadership as a replacement to cheney. Surely they can find someone who didn't oppose the president's signature initiative. Let me just review this for you. I'm gonna have this out here shortly if you go to my the each If you text dated three three seven seven seven you'll get the link. I'll have it there shortly. Free to see. I'll make it available. Everyone at least two phonic is the president. Trump is now supporting her to replace liz. Cheney i don't know that president trump understands The problem here is a deeply problematic person to replace liz cheney because though the party has soured on liz cheney she is ultimately far more conservative than at least two phonic away phonic has been on the wrong side of every major trump administration initiative. She voted against president. Trump's tax cuts and jobs act of two thousand seventeen the signature piece of economic legislation. That fired up the economy. She cosponsored a pathway. For dreamers in amnesty called the usa act. She not only voted against funding president. Trump's border wall she voted to terminate his emergency declaration to fund the border wall and override his funding of the border wall. In fact she voted six times to fund the government without money for the border wall. But it's not just taxes in the border wall. She oppose president trump's lawsuit to fight obamacare. She voted override president trump's ban on transgender troops. She voted for the far left equality. Act that punishes faith-based organizations she voted for the radical climate action. Now act that would cripple the economy and forced us back into the paris climate accord. She voted to ban drilling in the gulf of mexico. She voted override. President trump's veto the national defense authorization act in late twenty twenty. She even voted with democrats against a republican. Measure opposing the district of columbia's abortion law. Why would you put this person in leadership. Why is kevin mccarthy supporting her. Why did he convince. Donald trump to support her. What the heck is going on her. This is this is not a good thing. Let's go to the phones on this particular issue. Kelly in flagstaff arizona. You're going to be up next. Welcome hello how are you today good. I'm doing good. You were talking about this. Cheney and money. They're in and i see a problem with with politics in general is right now. We gotta have a woman for that position. And i think that's why stefani's name keeps popping up and and this chaney you know she's really not from wyoming. She was born there. But i don't know i was cheney dynasty. I mean it's the name. Cheney and look i i know i know her parents have moved back to wyoming. But now she's got a home there as well the raising their kids their beyond she was she kind of grew up in washington with her dad's career right and i don't think she understands that the republican party that were dads isn't the same. Republican party is today and she's in trouble as far as it goes she he. He's a i don't know she's a new york city republican and i don't know if you can trust problem here. Look if people say liz. Cheney is not connected to the to the trump republican party l. Phonic is not connected to the trump republican party. I mean she voted against every single. One of his major initiatives right. What can you get her on your show and ask her about these things. She's going to explain herself. Out of that does not a bad idea. So i'm going to flag this stuff as well. Make sure tucker. Carlson sees it because that would be an interesting thing for for him to wait into giving his criticisms of kevin. Mccarthy mario i i bet he has no idea Listen i thank you very much for your phone call. How how is flagstaff. My my family's been dying to get back out there. We went to sedona. I guess two years ago when we actually went up to flagstaff on the way to the grand canyon and hung out there. Just because it's so dark. At night. I can see the stars and they could see the milky way. Yes you can Dark city i guess this you guys for people don't know in. I'm actually fascinated by this. You guys in flagstaff. Actually your city council withdrew in changed out all the lights on the streets so that they don't reflect up into the sky high so people could actually look up in nc stars at night. I was fascinated by that. Yeah there's a there's an observatory here but the light has gotten so bright anyway. Whether they've done that the actually you can go to the observatory and see things but they actually moved the main telescope way out in onto a mountain somewhere. Get away from the light. So but yeah it's It's kind of an interesting deal. You can't see the stars at night. It's just it's i was. I was amazed. I never been out there. I'd never been zone until we went out there. And all the way to the grand canyon. And i actually thought the sedona to flagstaff area was prettier than the grand canyon. Which apparently you're not supposed to see it makes people mad well. Yeah it's it's pretty nice. it's really enjoy. It is well listen. Thank you very much for the phone. Call have a great weekend I i'm is for those who don't know flagstaff is up. The the elevation for like steph is very high. You don't think of arizona. I think it'd be that high But it is and they. They changed out the street lights in the last two years because flagstaff is certified as a dark sky city. Meaning that at night you could see the milky way unaided because it's so bright and the the noise pollution light pollution was drowning out the stars. They've got a big observatory there as he said and they swapped out all the light bulbs made them so that their i forget. Exactly what type of lightbulb they are but they're the you know the red halogen style bulbs that caused the red glow at night. They got rid of all that stuff. So you can go to flagstaff. Arizona and you can look up and see the stars and away. You can't where i am making a remote. People are in downtown even in towns. You can't i so. I love taking my telescope out at night. This is so far off every topic but he offered flagstaff. I'm to talk about this minute i can. I can take my telescope out at night in my backyard. And i can see pretty good. I put pictures up occasionally have done in a while. i need to get back to. The trees have grown so high last few years. It's hard to get out there and ceased up but i love to go out at night and look at the source when i was a kid. I up in dubai and we would go camping in the desert for the scouts. Or my dad and i would you'd get out into the into the wadis of the middle east away from the city lights of dubai and abu dhabi and you could see everything particularly if you went in the moon was shining. You could see everything. It was amazing and you said other night you can watch shooting this. Why like to go to hilton head by the way because it's on the beach it tends to get dark and you can sit there. I sit in the hot tub midnight. Watch shooting stars out over the ocean. Just i love to watch the stars at night. It's what i did as a kid in urban areas. Less and less can you do that. I'll never forget taking a friend of mine with me to hilton head and we went out on the beach. The moon was not shining and he had never seen anything like it. And it's just it's one of those things. I don't know that you can appreciate it because you don't quite understand you live in an air. I can see the stars at night like. I'm in macon georgia. I can stand in my cul de sac. And i can see the stars in is a completely different thing. When you go to sedona and flagstaff arizona. It's even different from hilton. Because it's so much darker because they've done such a good job getting rid of the city lights so that you can look up at night and you can see. All of god's creation is just staggering to look up and see that it's just. It's a treat to be able to do that to take your kids. four out. west were a lot of city lights and take him outside at night and say. See that big band right there. That's the milky way and it's incredible are eight. We should move on. Because i didn't intend to dwell on that the president of the united states. You know i mean. I don't believe that. Joe biden is not in control. I reject the premise. That joe biden is not in control in large part. Because the stereotype of joe biden. Is he's kind of. He's a grumpy. Old grandad who falls asleep occasionally. He moves very slow and his thoughts. Clearly this guy's not up to it. But i mean you saw him at the at the joint address to congress. You seem as press conferences He is old. He does wear down but i don't think he's not in control. I do think however that biden's staffy now is further left than he is and they do steer him more because he is as old as he is. He makes the final call. It's like the the the you know the left had this idea about donald trump that he wasn't in charge it was all these other people around him and actually every single person i know from the president himself to the vice president to his staffers. Were very adamant that yes. Donald trump made the final call on a host of things. And what are the internal staff. Battles was constantly people ignorant him and his authority because they didn't want to do what he wanted to do. That he would force the issue. Very famously moving. the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. The president gave them no choice and made them do it and it was his call. And i don't want to do to biden with the left did to Donald trump. i don't. I don't think that was right. I don't think this is right. But i do think there is a level of staff involvement with biden. And they have helped push him left and they have convinced him. It's where he's going to make the most difference and it's where they've convinced him. He's going to rally the democratic party because they think there are more woke and progressives in there are conservatives and they don't really need the conservatives who still inhabit the democratic party that's going to have fundamental problems to him. But i just thought it was very interesting. He issued a proclamation on the seventieth annual national day of prayer and decided to talk about climate change and not actually talk about god throughout our history. Americans of many religions and belief systems have turned to prayer for string tobin. Guidance prayer has nourished countless souls and powered moral movements including essential fights against racial injustice child labor in the infringement of the rights of disabled americans prayer is also a daily practice for many whether it is to ask for help or restrict or to give. Thanks over blessings bestowed. Today we remember and celebrate the role that the healing balm of prayer can play in our lives in the life of our nation as we continue to confront crises and challenges of our time from a deadly pandemic to the loss of lives and livelihoods in its wake to a reckoning on racial justice to the existential threat of climate change. Americans of faith can call upon the power of prayer to provide hope and uplift us for the work ahead as the late congressman. John lewis one said nothing can stop the power of a committed and determined people to make a difference in our society why because human beings of the most dynamic linked to the divine on this planet. There is no reference to the creator to god to any of that issue somehow prayer fuels some level of i mean even barack obama mentioned god. Donald trump mentioned god. eleven times. Barack obama mentioned him twice but he still mentioned him. It's striking on this. This is barack obama on this day. May our phases enabled us to sow the seeds of progress in our ever changing world. Let us resolve to guide our children and grandchildren to them for all to see god and everyone and to remember that no matter what differences they may have they just like us will always be united by their common humanity and and he also asked that people of faith Pray for god's continued guidance. Mercy and protection you know. Prayer internet itself dutton. Jack prayer does nothing. If there's no one on the other side to listen maybe you should mention the one who's listening. Welcome back eric. Erickson here the phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Let's go to the phones. Bill calling from woodstock georgia welcome. Hey eric it's been awhile since we talked Love the show. I ventured back into church for the first time since march of twenty twenty. Now i did go to the easter service which was outside but when i got back into my traditional service and they started playing the old hymns from the church. I grew up a child. Put me to tears because if maybe realized this is where i need to focus and the people stayed at home and listening to great radio shows like yours. We are substituting unfortunately politics or religion and we're becoming just like the woke who don't have hope and a future and they want it all here on earth and So anyway getting back to church has helped me put into perspective. The terrible happenings of this administration the potential wars. And tell you if you can get back to church to hold encourage it because it just. It just blubbering idiot. I only remember the ham. We were singing. But i was blubbering. Well you know. I gotta i gotta confess it is. It is hard to get back in the habit in in we as a family are struggling to. You know it's kind of funny. My fifteen year old has been she. Has it really been engaged with church. In the way. I would like church group and stuff before covid. We never pushed her. And the reason we didn't pushers is. I felt an enormous. My mom's listening. But i really felt like my parents pushed me so hard. That i just kinda rebelled in. I didn't want anything to do with it. When i was a kid. I was a married man before. I wanted to go to sunday school and my kids. I didn't push him. Because i didn't want to turn them to rebel. And turn off to it. You're my daughter last week last sunday. 'cause we didn't go because we had people in the house were sick and she's like i'm i think i'm ready to go back to church and i'm like yeah i am too i. I hate with my schedule right. Now that i'm working as much as i am. I wanna sleep on saturday and sunday. I don't want to do it but at the same time my soul is just i. I'm not a source. That i know that i need to get back into church i had to. I had to make an appointment to do. And then there were thousands of reasons of why i decided. I don't want to go and my wife said you minute appointment you go and four. I'm really glad i did this weekend. I'm not because i'm gonna to spend the weekend on the river in the mountains along their bill. So i i've got this i. I feel a lot of guilt. These days that i don't spend enough time with my family and so i've had a number of people invite me to go fly fishing because i've done it once now. I've got the gear. I bought myself rods. I want to go up to the mountains. I got a buddy whose family has a farm up on the chattahoochee right outside. Helen and i just keep feeling like i can't. I can't leave my family. Because i'm working so much and i'm dying at the same time to go and the amount of guilt i have right now just piled on top of me for. We haven't been to church. I want to spend down with my family. But i really want to go do this. They can't come with me. And i've just. I'm having a hard time sorting it. All out my head up the last time you went you. Don't okay so yes and no. I got a very big trout and it nap the line and that was as close as i got. One is my very first time fishing so we were up on. The chattahoochee used right outside. Helen a not two miles from downtown. Helen and i'm in the river by the way i gotta say i've deter. I've figured out. Why old people like fly-fishing. That cold water made my bones and joints feel better than anything in a long time standing up there. And there's a there's a family that has a fish feeder that automatically sprays and so the fisher always in that location in. I got one. I was with my buddy david. Who's a. I won't call him a professional but he's a he's a brilliant photographer does a lot of work for kabila pro in the like Doing their fly-fishing shooting. And so he's the one who pushed me to go gave me no choice told me going so i went and we were pulling this thing up and my gosh the line snaps and it was a big one and yeah exactly. All i've got is a fish story now and my wife's like you're lying. It was tied either my buddy days like oh it was actually really big and it was. My fault. lines snapped lease blaming himself from my line snapping up you know. Listen i'm i'm praying for you by name and say night when i'm sitting i'm sitting by the river with some bourbon and a cigar. I'll be thinking about you. Well look if you're doing a great job thank you. I really do appreciate a bill. Thanks for the kind words. Have a great weekend. I and i really. It almost makes me i. I need so large georgia i. We're on wchs georgia. And i had never been to northeast georgia until we got the station. Up there in halberstam county in that area and decided i need to go up there and see this place and they invited me up to a chamber of commerce of it In downtown clarksville and that area. I've been up there now. There into late burton. And it is god's country it is beautiful in that part of the state and i just i would love to find a cabin either on lake burton or probably afford that are just right on a river somewhere to go up there and fly fish man. It would be fantastic. I really have enjoyed it. It's not relaxing at all. It's fishing but it's fun. I like that. It is eric erickson. Here welcome back the full number if you want to be part of the program. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. It is done and you can get it. Listen you need to see this i. I am a big believer. That i shouldn't tell you what to think i should give you the facts and let you make up your mind. I want you to see this for yourself. I have put in all of the relevant links to all the votes. So you can see that. I'm not making it up. If you text data to three three seven seven seven you will get at least a phonics voting record. I have just written about it. You gotta my sub stack newsletter. I will send you the link back. If you text the word data to three three seven seven seven you can see her voting record. Elise stefanik voted repeatedly against the president's signature. Initiatives phonic voted against the president. Time and time again. She voted against his tax cuts. She voted against his emergency declaration. She voted against time and time again. She voted against the president. Why would we put her in a leadership position. Text the word data to three three seven. Seven seven c her votes. You can follow the links yourself. I'm not telling you what to think. I'm providing new facts providing you information if you text the word dated three three seven seven seven you'll also get my linked to critical theory. What is critical theory. Critical theory work How how does the left talk about it. It is actually in. it's just crazy. What her voting record is. This woman literally enlisted by. Let me just say this. Because she's a very nice person she is personally but a very nice person personally can be liberal or moderate. It doesn't mean that they are fit for leadership. She voted six times to fund the government without funding the border wall. She voted to oppose the presidents funding to the border wall. She voted to rescind the president's declaration of an emergency fund the border wall. She voted to override the president's use of defense funds to fund the border wall. She voted for the dreamer. She voted for amnesty. She voted for agricultural amnesty. She voted against conservative immigration reform. She voted with the democrats to force us back into the paris accord. She voted with the democrats on the equality. Act time and time again. At least two phonic has voted against president trump. why would republicans put her in leadership. Why would they do that. Why would they sell. Donald trump on this this sounds like it is the republican elites swindling donald trump. He's in florida not surrounded by his white house. Staff doesn't have her voting record handy. A kevin mccarthy goes down there in sweet talks donald trump into supporting least two phonic who turns out to be further left than liz. Cheney this is the singular irony of this whole situation. Liz eighty voted for donald trump's agenda. More than elise stefanik and somehow the republican leaders in the house have swindled donald trump into convincing him. He should support vanek over jamie. Listen cheney's go cheney's out next week she's gonna be booted out. Why would you replace her with someone. Who's more liberal. Why would you replace her with someone who doesn't have the president's back. Why would you replace your with someone who is less likely to vote for donald trump than liz. Cheney i have no earthly idea. Text the word data to three three seven seven seven. See it for yourself. See the data for yourself. You don't have to believe me you don't have to take my word for it. I have included all the vote. You can click the links and see the votes for yourself now. We need to move on. I don't know if you know this or not. But the whisper campaigns have started about rhonda. Santa's this is just kind of silly rhonda. Santa's is looking ahead to re election next year and quite possibly twenty twenty four bid for president according to politico's playbook which has become increasingly leftist. This is from politico. We talked to a dozen or so one time aids in consultants to the florida governor. And they all said the same thing descent is treats staff like double digits. He largely relies on a brain trust to himself and his wife casey to santa's stay former local. Tv journalists beyond that there are few if any dishonest people as far as political pros are concerned. Yes to scientist recently. Hired highly regarded operative phil cox. But there's no sign that he's been through the trenches with like a karl rove or david axelrod let alone an army of loyalists. That's probably not fatal to his white house prospects but it can't help here. Few key nuggets a support group of former desanta. Staffers meets regularly to trade war stories about their hardship. Working for the governor. The turnover in his office and among his campaign advisers is well known among republicans in three of his five full years in congress. He raked it right in. At least the seventy th percentile in terms of highest. In the governor's office. He has had only two staffers who started with him when he was a junior. Member of congress within six months of taking office as governor in two thousand nineteen dissent has fired five. Staffers was a twenty-three-year-old scheduler. Who'd been with him. Since the beginning of the gubernatorial race shortly after she was sent packing and named member of the sentences administration was quoted in florida blog trashing. Her performance a month later his deputy chief of staff left prompting florida reporters to press him about the rapid turn of his operation. Another story related us by five. Former staffers at the beginning of his administration to santa's directed the florida. Gop leader to fire a party officer. Who had cancer on that person's first week back from surgery to santa's often blames the staffers old blunders after two santa's went on fox news in two thousand eighteen and implored florida voters not to monkey this up by supported an african american democratic opponent for governor. He and his wife trudy out his campaign staff or not cleaning up the mess and then he brought in a whole new group of advisers. Aides would lure to scientists who staff meetings with cupcakes. Say it was a colleague's birthday to get him to attend in the gubernatorial primary santa's visited his campaign headquarters just a couple of times on election night. He entered the war room after his witted remark. Wow i didn't know there's many people worked for me whoop de freakin. Do let me tell you what is going on. This is finally starting to see. Republican whisper campaigns against him. They know he's going to win his reelection bid. They know he's going to win. They know he's to run and twenty twenty four. Let me tell you what. I've been told by multiple people the president donald trump continues to talk about twenty twenty four because it gives him power in twenty twenty two to settle scores. He wants to beat lewis. Cheney in wyoming. He wants to beat. Brian kip in georgia and brad raffles burger in georgia. He's got a number of people who with scores to settle if he says he's not running in twenty twenty four. His cloud as leader of the party begins to diminish through two thousand twenty two as long as he keeps up the facade of running twenty twenty four. he's the most powerful man in the republican party but behind the scenes. There is growing doubt that the president wants to run again in two thousand twenty four. He'll be joe biden's age. The left is still come to sue him constantly. There are people who think maybe he's just not gonna want to run in twenty twenty four and they know that if he lays hands onto santa's as the guy to santa's going to be unstoppable so they're trying to rough him up at this moment before his twenty twenty two campaign knowing he's gonna win twenty twenty two but if it's closer than it could be they can begin to sow doubts about the santa's and twenty thousand four. There are a lot of staffers to santa's his hired fired or never hired at all. And by the way some of this is true to santa's apparently is a very tough person to work for. That doesn't mean he's a bad person doesn't mean he's a terrible Governor in fact is results. Speak for himself. it means he's he's Makes strong demands high demands. He can be difficult to work for. A lot of people in politics are and those people he hired and fired or never hired at all or starting to align with other people. they're starting to align with other candidates they're starting to ally with other potential twenty twenty four prospects and they're whispering about the santa's now. I told you guys a couple of weeks ago that i would start believing the hits onto santa's when they came from the gop well they're starting to come from the gop. Why are they starting to come from the gop. I know the answer. There's been some private polling done. Disentis will be the nominee in twenty twenty four. If they can't start reading him in now in fact there are some close to the president who believe they themselves need to whisper about santa's less to santa's get big enough that he may challenge donald trump for the nomination and twenty twenty four if trump wins earned runs. But more so than that. There are a whole lot of republican. Candidates who want to run who see descent is already beginning to lock up the twenty twenty four republican donors. They need to stop that now so that they can have the money to run against even twenty twenty four and the best way to do that is to begin the slow walk of roughing to up the whispers now of staffers become on the record conversations later become fodder for the press become fodder for campaign ads. They are desperate to stop to scientists and right now the way they're going about it is. He's a difficult person to work for do. Do any of you care. The governor florida reopened to state. The governor florida got things. Gone the governor florida. Got things reopen. The governor florida's simulated their economy. The governor ford got people back into schools. The governor florida has built interracial allegiances in florida and alliances in florida. The governor of florida has advanced where other governors have not. There's only one other governor in the nation whose economies outperforming florida right now. That's the governor of georgia who opened before the scientists did before it was fired up ready to go. People are noticing the latest election polling for santa's a year away and it is polling so we don't know those accurate but he's got a bipartisan support. Even democrats are supporting him. Democrats really don't like charlie crist. he was. He was a useful opportunists for them. When it came to that congressional district but otherwise the democrats. There's no love lost their between four to democrats. And charlie crist he had been there republican nemesis for while and on and on goes so the republicans who want to run and twenty two before they got to stop the santa's now and they begin with the whispers. The whispers will go to more news and the media will love it because they hate the santa's why because he thus far has positioned himself pretty strategically as the one person who can unite the non trump and trump wings of the gop. Hi there it's eric your accent here. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I wanna wish all the moms in the audience all the birthing scene people. How all the mothers happy. Mother's day i know my wife is a is a real hero to me. And we're fortunate. She can stay home with the kids and build memories with the kids given her health and i feel like i'm a sometimes just a terrible husband Lately i i really have just because i've been so so overwhelmed with work and i'm i'm glad the light is at the end of the tunnel for these last couple of months They've been a distraction. I feel like. I've been off my game with my family and stuff but it's just it's remarkable to me to see my wife in action with our kids and building memories and helping them and i just moms are amazing. My wife is amazing My my my wife has a harley. She got a package yesterday from a company from wisconsin. The company's name is is Go fast don't ride fast. Don't die motorcycle place. I hope you take care of your mom for mother's day or your wife for mother's day. I really hope you'll consider omaha. Steaks e you can go tomastik dot com. You can put georgia in the search bar and you'll see the. Let's go girl package. It's time to get your family back together and start building memories again. It's safe to and you. Should he got homeostasis. Stakes dot com. You put george in the search bar. You'll get boneless chicken breast boneless chicken breasts. Pork chops sausages. You'll get their butcher. Cut fillets whicher hugely popular. You'll get scallop potatoes. You'll get caramel apple tartlets. they're individually wrapped. You can bake them as you want him. We get some from my wife. She loves them. They don't have nutmeg can eat nutmeg so she really likes. She put them in the oven just individually. She wants a snack. Gets them in the oven. She loves them They're in this package and you get twelve burgers for free. Twelve free burgers from omaha steaks. That's almost four pounds of burgers and their state birther. They're a blend. They're not just your standard grocery store ground. Chuck that's going to shrink up on you so go to omaha steaks dot com today. Put georgia in the search bar. Get this package. Make your mom something delicious. For mother's day griller stake. I'll make my wife cornflakes chicken. It's one of her. Favourite shoe melt. Butter put cajun's unit us. Tony raise And you did the chicken in then you roll him in crush. Cornflakes you put them in a baking dish. Poor the excess butter on sticken preheated. Three fifty for about fifty minutes comes out tinder a good. It's just spicy buttery crunchy. It's just all the best but omaha steaks dot com georgia in the search bar. And we are. I i got. This is one of my frustrations with the birthing people comment. I look. I'm i'm still flabbergasted by this in many of you don't believe me. I'm getting emails still about this. I'm going to play this montage one more time. And it's not it. This isn't intended to be filler. This as you this blew my mind. It is an actual congressional hearing and these are the democrats you know. Nancy pelosi said she wanted to d- gender the language of the house of representatives and show. It's now instead of talking about mothers. it's birthing people. Democrats are talking about as a mother's day weekend let us. We commit our efforts and support to ensure that every birthing person office mason is empowered. He'll say we have not created infrastructure to support birthing people all pregnant and birth people deserve to be treated with love. Birth can wa- blacks should not be a death senate health equity for blackburn. People is attainable. Muggers in baby's in black birthing people are important. We desperately need long term fixes to support the healthcare needs black women and birthing people the most marginalized black indigenous birthing people to systemically shift the way we approach healthcare for birthing people of color and respectful of black women in birth deep ball the maternal mortality crisis among black birthing people in the united states black birthing people and burning people for birthing people black birding people in a black person arsons louisiana fed. Birthing people want dulas midwives during the post artem theory. There are not enough black workers of color leaving blackburn people with limited autonomy or opportunity to receive racially concordant. Here protect black birthing people and to save lives. Thank you and you'll bad birthing. People black birthing people. It's like it's your job. Hey mom did you know your job was to be a birthing version. It's so disrespectful. It's just disrespectful. It's like latino latina cces a which rhymes with kleenex. It's a it's disrespectful term. Because no one in the latino community uses it. spanish makes the word impossible in the hispanic. there is just. There is not a word like that Most of the world's romance languages use male and female nouns. The i mean you you law in love in in french. That's the one. I grew up. Speaking law in the laws is the female. The male Why they do this. I don't know the historic in malaysia. For using using male and female nouns. But they do in spanish. Do as well the italians do A lot of the romance languages derived from latin do this and it makes zero sense to disrespect someone's culture by trying to negate the gender. It makes it's disrespectful to mothers to call them birthing people because you wanna pedal a mythology that a man can give birth administrate which is what they wanna do. This is this is their claim now. And it's just not true. It is simply not true. It is not true and yet it's what they push and i do think that this stuff matters if you're a progressive. You're listening right. Now why are you harping on this. This stuff is what wins. Republicans elections whether you want to believe it or not because there are a whole lot of people who don't think either side release that much different economic matters but on this stuff there's a massive difference and it helps republicans with hispanic voters and black voters and so many more. It is just a disgusting term birthing person and it's what the democrats have decided to embrace. It will be a cultural issue that works against them.

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#EERS S9 Ep102: Backing the Blue

The Erick Erickson Show

2:04:13 hr | 1 year ago

#EERS S9 Ep102: Backing the Blue

"Good morning and welcome, it is irregular extent here across the state of Georgia. The full number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven. Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. Glad to have you with me this morning. Joe Biden and Donald Trump both coming out saying the We're not going to be defunding police departments. Here's the president This has been a very strong year for less crime. Let's put it that way less crime. There's a reason for less crime that's because we have great law enforcement of very proud of them. Will be defunding. There won't be dismantling of our police and. They're not going to be any disbanding of our police. Are Police have been letting us? Live in peace, we want to make sure we don't have any bad actors in there, and sometimes you'll see some horrible things like we witnessed recently but. Ninety nine, I say ninety nine point nine, but let's go with ninety nine percent of them are great, great people, and they've. Done jobs that are record setting and now here's the news. On Joe, Biden I think what's happened. Here is one of those great inflection points in American history for real terms of civil liberties, civil rights, and and just treat people with dignity. You've seen the black lives matter painted on that street just outside the White House. Some demonstrators added equals. De Fund the police. Do you support defunding the police new I don't support defunding police. Support conditioning federal aid to police based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency, honorable Nece, and in fact are able to demonstrate they can protect the community and everybody in the community. You know. I. I I WANNA. I WANNA hijack my own show here. Can we talk about the police? For a moment, defunding the police is is not going to happen neither the political leadership of the Republicans, nor the Democrats will want it to happen they're talking about reform. Frankly, there are pack. Pieces of this reform proposal sailing through Congress from the Democrats that actually do make some sense less militarization of certain police forces for example actually does make some sense increasing training make sense higher standards. Make Sense we've seen for example I mean conservatives have long agreed that in the military. At times we have lowered standards, and we say the same in the police words. In fact, you talked to a lot of police officers and they say that's their big concern. Is that standards have been lowered? Testing standards have been lowered. Training standards have been lowered. But it is important. To understand that the police are there to protect us and to serve. We have one hundred fifty nine counties. That are you know what how let's let's? Let's do this together. How many? Muniz Pahlavi's in Georgia How many municipalities do we have? In Georgia really cities, there are five hundred thirty five. In Georgia. One hundred fifty to two Georgia General Law seven subject to home rule five, hundred, thirty, five total incorporated municipalities in Georgia, one hundred fifty nine counties, four, hundred, Ninety, seven special district, one hundred eighty independent school districts in the state of Georgia. Six counties have consolidated with their city Governments Echoes County is consolidated with an incorporate unincorporated community rather than a city. So you've got one hundred fifty nine counties, one hundred fifty two excluding city county consolidation, five, hundred, thirty, five total incorporated municipalities I'm actually stunned by the number. I assumed it would be more. Now that that doesn't go into the number of unincorporated areas there plenty of towns in Georgia that art incorporated. That rely on on sheriff deputies, but here's the point. The reason I raised that number. You've got five hundred thirty five municipalities and one hundred fifty nine counties, and on a daily basis you have police officers who are putting their lives on the line to keep people safe in the majority of them. The overwhelming majority of them are doing a good job and being besmirched by a bunch of people who are pushing an agenda to bring down. Police Departments because they frankly don't like law and order. Are there bad police in this country absolutely. We see it with the George Floyd situation turns out the rookie police officer. It was his first day on the job. Who's been arrested now? According to his lawyer, he was begging show van to get his knee off George Floyd's neck. We see down in south, Georgia in the almond. Situation. The police wanted to act. It was the local district attorney who told them not to. We see in Atlanta and making an Athens in Savannah and Columbus and Valdosta in Albany in Augusta in every part of the state, police officers who put their lives on the line on a daily basis to keep people safe, and it is nuts to treat them all as the bad guy. It is nuts to go after police in general, must there be some reforms? Sure, let there be some reforms. Sure I I suspect many of the good police officers, whitten mind some higher standards so that the idiot stopped giving them a bad name. But. Let's not paint with such a broad brush. Here CNN on the reform package for Nathan individuals, constitutional rights were allegedly violated. Now what it does not do is to fund police departments I asked Nancy Pelosi the House Speaker about this and she like. Democrats are steering clear from that rhetoric of embracing defunding the police departments, saying that is not the plan on the federal level, and that this is a debate that has to happen on the local had those debates at the local level as a that is a local decision, a local level of but to do so. That doesn't say we're GONNA pile more money on to to further militarise the police. No, we're going to address mental health issues. Education issues in our communities as well. You know. There's a striking thing here in Charlie. put it out to me a credit where it's due Charlie pointed this out. The here Nancy Pelosi now talking about mental health. Every time. There is a school shooting in this country. Every single time there's a school shooting in this country when a young white male shows up and says in fires up a show shoots up a school. You have conservative saying you know what? We need to talk about mental health and Liberal. Shut your mouth. No, we need to take people's guns away. You shut your mouth. You bring up mental health. And now suddenly they WanNa talk about mental health good. I'm glad I'm glad they want to talk about mental health. We should have been doing this for a while. It does make you wonder how many people how many of them have PTSD. How many police officers you're dealing with it? How many soldiers come back become? Police officers are dealing with it. We do need to do with mental health issue I? It's just pretty damn convenient. The Democrats said to talk about now. When every time there's a mass shooting by mentally ill teenage white boy. No, let's just take everybody's guns away. We don't need to talk about mental health. We're besmirching people with mental health when we do that that that's always there line. Oh, we! Did this this, we. We can't suggest that people who have mental health or school shooters no. Now we're going to talk about mental health. Here's the police and there there is the subtle sleight there. Isn't there? It's the subtle sleight that maybe some of these people have mental health issues that that's their problem. There reforms need to come. Reforms Need to happen. Congress is going to consider a package in there actually appears to be bipartisan support for some of this now. What would it be The demilitarisation of of certain police forces outside of urban areas would be one of those eh aspects. The retraining of police officers the increased training police officers, higher standards and possibly higher pay for police officers. One of the issues is pay for police. Officers were many police. Officers are worn out working multiple jobs doing part time work because they gotta make ends meet because they're not well paid by their local law enforcement. We have the situation here in Georgia you remember this from a couple of months ago, the entire state trooper class was fired because it looked like they all cheated on on A. Test on how to use the the laser speed detection devices. GotTa. Deal with problems like that. Yes a everyone could use approve of my goodness. The president of the United States could use some improvement to. You could I could all of us could police could? But there is a real and dangerous thing. Around the nation right now, where left wing activists! Through the organization lives matter. Are Trying to undermine police forces and put police at risk. The Black Lives Matter Organization you know is different from the statement. Black lives matter that the statement is a statement of fact that he is a statement that is not up for debate. The Organization itself is is radically progressive. Hostile to Christianity hostile to police forces. intrinsically by the way a post to the idea that we should see past race that we should be colorblind. He no, he advocates strongly that that it should be black organization. There are sadly some churches today that wished to go down the road of working with black lives matters. They should avoid it like the plague. It is a progressive far left Advocacy Group But we should remember that black lives do matter. You can say all lives matter, but we do understand from from people who are really concerned about this as you why they're focused on saint, black lives matter. Because yes, all lives matter, but we're not seeing all lives in the Almond Aubrey video or the George. Floyd video in black lives. And their lives don't seem to matter to some people with the DA in in in Brunswick they could cover it up or at least try to do. Video came out. And the George Floyd situation. They probably would have gotten away with that as well. As the video nut Komo. Black lives do matter we can focus on that. But. Police lives matter to. The police matter. Police put their lives on the line every day. They have an eighteen and a half there eighteen and a half times more likely. To be shot. By a armed black man, then an unarmed black man is to be killed by the police. Those are just the numbers. It is the the life of a police officer can be disruptive to their families. Can Be disruptive in caused their children to Fred and worry. They may not come home at night depending on the situation. Every time they stop someone these days they have to wonder. Are they going to get shot by someone who is an activist against the police who hates the police as a criminal and willing to kill the police? There are bad police officers. There are bad people. Joe Biden. said the other day. You know the ten to fifteen percent of the country's bad. No one's lighting him up on that. There are bad police officers. There are bad white people. There are bad why people there are bad has been people, and there are really good black people and really good white people and really good Hispanic people and really good cops, and really good activists, and really good liberals and. Conservatives and really good Democrats, and really good Republicans with whom you may just disagree on things. But in these conversations, so many people are having right now. l., let's just acknowledge that black lives do matter police lives do matter as well and we need to be careful in our conversations, not to Besmirch an entire group of people. Who keep us safe on a daily basis because of some of the bad people within their ranks, we should work to improve the standards to help the good people there maintain their reputations and not see these bad people, but come on Y'all. Some of what's happening out there right now. Some of what I see even from some conservatives. Who who are they're going after police, particularly the left few conservatives, lot of people in the left That's just unacceptable and we need to call it out. The. President's on twitter right now, making the situation worse, just man unreal I. You know ages to a point, someone just me on twitter. You know how the protesters are now screaming that. People are painting with too broad a brush because they they're getting them confused with the violent protesters, violent protesters of the regular protesters or at the Saint, people kind of like how gun owners feel. Gun owners are always blamed for contributing violence and killing people in the country. When when some crazy guy breaks, the law gets gun. It's gun owners problems. Or the police it's the police's fault. All of them, when one of them does something wrong, just man. People painting with a broad brush. Let's go to the phones cliff in war Robbins. Let's see can I get you there. You go cliff Houria. Jeremy Me Okay I can hear you. Thanks for calling. Yeah I've been thinking for some time about the situation with You know defunding the place they call for that for the wicked acts of the the man in the George. forget his last name right now, but anyway. Flow joy fluids case. But. You know while back, not recently Harvey Weinstein was convicted and sent to prison, and he's in Hollywood, business and industry. I didn't hear anybody coming out. Let's. Let's boycott hollywood-based. All be one bad actor. I know he wasn't an actor. Per Se, but well. Yeah, yeah, you're. Calling for a boycott of Hollywood because of Harvey Weinstein Well, you know what's interesting I'm glad cliff that that's such a great point. Thank you for calling in that. That makes my day. Yes, they didn't boycott all of Hollywood because the. Let's see Harvey, Weinstein and who else? James Franco situation and who else you had the. What's his name? The the Bryan singer stuff who else on and on and goes what we got all of these people in Hollywood behaving badly, and there's no boycott Hollywood. But L. my goodness gracious. It is ha. okay. All. I'm going to stop there. There's an election today. Did y'all know there was a lecture day? There is election day Brad Brandon's Burgers GonNa. Join me at the top of the next hour. There we've got the congressional primaries in Georgian the Democratic turnout in the Metro, area has been massive in Gwinnett County two times. As many Democrats have tornadoes, Republicans, but now I gotTa tell you The media is seized on this getting more of the wheel Georgia turn blue I'm stories. Now. There is a massive democratic. Because in most parts of the state. There aren't any primaries on the Republican side. You know I'm Richard. Before I've got a vote in the Democratic Primary Day. I'm as soon as the show is done. My polling is just really kind of across the street from where my neighborhood is in local church and I will be going there. I will be casting my vote and I'll be voting to the Democratic primary. Why because in Bibb county where I live? All of the contested races are nonpartisan. Except for one. That is the district attorney race and the district attorney race is going to be a partisan race on the Democratic primary. No Republicans qualified So if you WANNA vote in any of the contested race seven impact, you got a vote on the democratic ballot because that's the only race. Now I mean in my area. You know we've got a May Orel. Race in bid cal vote for my friend Larry Slesinger or Blake Sullivan also would be good and then mallory. Jones is on the. On My, he's my county commissioner and I have to vote for him because there have been times that my trash has been picked up and I call that guy in man he gets. My trash picked up. You know when I was on city council I actually got yelled at in the grocery store one time. Because, someone's trash had not been picked up I was a those you and making nowhere. The public's is on time heals your. They're about to shut it down and move it. and I was in there one day, and a guy came up to me and introduced himself, and he was very upset. His trash can had not been picked up and he was very livid about it, and he had tried to call me, but he hadn't actually tried to call me. He had called City Council and no one had the message me, and he was just hopping mad. He had all this trash outside and it turns out. What would I started talking to him about it? Rolled his trash can down. Now that that y'all the one thing you know in life is that you need to roll your trash can down to the curb before the trash trucks go by, because they're not gonNA come back and get your trash. This is not trash pickup on demand and this clown dog that for some reason he could eat. He rolled his trash down and we should have them come back because by God, he pays his taxes. That was always the worst so I used to live across from crease. Beat increase beat came into my yard one day and started yelling at me because I had. I was on the Sports Hall of Fame Authority in Georgia for Awhile. They had a wonderful facility, but they were beginning to wind it down. They were moving it out of the out of the city of along the big. George Uga and stuff. They didn't want it there, and so I wrote you know we need a new courthouses per facility for it. and He came over asserted. Yell at me! I was no expert. How did I know this stuff? And he finally got really unhinged at me. How many People Dick Cheney and I kill that date seriously did. And I never realized he was a far progressive, but. Then he starts yelling at me that I can't walk away from him. He pays my salary will actually he didn't but man. You get that in in Mallory. You call him. He's always so nice. He picks up. Trash gets the trash there if if they've missed trash. So how vote for him be a good city councilman? Make sure your citizens trashes picked up, sue. Do you want your your most bizarre thing? You'll encounter today. I just saw this reporter circling in a tweet from someone asking if Amazon would deliver to the Seattle Capitol Hill Autonomous Free Zone. Recap Hill. When I thought what on Earth is this? So it turns out that Antiga folks and others have established a six block autonomous zone in the cap hill section of Seattle. They've walled off with barricades. They've got teams sitting up through distributing food and water. They've disabled security cameras. and they're policing the place themselves and the Seattle government seems to be letting this happen. Now that place seattle loves in condones this sort of stuff, so you're not going to see them suddenly. Vote Donald Trump, but it is bizarre it is. It is truly bizarre. y'All I. I WanNa talk about something and an I'm I am going into this. Let me admit for those of you. Who can't tell from my voice by virtue of Radio? That I am very much a white guy. In fact, I just turned forty, five forty five year old now, officially middle aged white dude. But I got an. I got an email. And it struck me. I mean just struck me to the core. From a listener to my program, who reads my website? The resurgent who is black? And he said he was really angry. With. What's happening? In not in the way that you and I might think. He's angry. because. He believes that George Floyd and our breeze death. Are Tools of convenience? And what he means by that is. Every single day. Black people in this country or killed. They are either killed at the hands of of criminals. Or police. or through neglect and failing crumbling systems. And the only time. That they come up is when it's caught on video. and. Social Grievances from the left can be nursed and expanded in pushed. And that is his concern. It is his concern. that. We forget about all the other black people who've died. Through lack of good medical care where they live. Through drug addiction. Through crime! Through a host of other issues unless it can be caught on tape. And his frustration with that. And I I wish I was really really struck by it. Is. He. He feels like an unless. It gets seen it's ignored. And so we're seeing. What happened with George Floyd were seen what happened with Aubrey. And we're not seeing what happens elsewhere and his point in this is the larger point of of where he went. Is that. He is. Frustrated that people peddling progressive agendas? Are Pushing essentially for expanded government care when he believes that it is the government itself that contributed to the collapse of these problems. It is the government itself. That broke apart black families. It is the government itself. That decided that she didn't need a Dad. It is the government itself. Who put these kids in failing schools and won't let them out and won't let their parents get them out. It is the government in itself who passed expansive crime? Laws that allow people to target the black community. It is the government itself that did all of these things and the solution from the left is. Hey, let's have more government, but we'll be in charge of it. There was a record night of violence in Chicago. More people killed overnight, in, CHICAGO. then I think at any time. The number of homicides in Chicago last night was at a tipping point. Overwhelmingly if not all black. I do not know the names of all the victims. In either, do you? and. It goes unremarked upon by the media. It goes unremarked upon by the Democrats. It goes unremarked upon by Republicans. And I realize again. It is awkward for me to be the guy to be here in. Say this because I am a nel officially middle aged white guy. But. When you're solution to the problem is to expand the agents through which the problem grew is probably not the real solution. And when you advocate for public policies. And Solutions. And you ignore all of the other underlying issues. I think you've got more problems. You know the answer is not everything is systematically racist. There is racism. And we are. We're a nation that had slavery for three Hundred Years. We had segregation for over one hundred fifty years, and and now we're what fifty years removed from the Jim Crow era at best. They're going to be ongoing fallout. Slow Rolling Healing over time. But Man I gotTa tell you it is E. I was just struck by this email that this listener. My just fuels as a black man feel so put upon and so outraged that we focus on the video decevante Aubrey and George Floyd and we should, but what about all the other people who were dying in every day? In this country who are black who have been failed by government failed by the system, and the solution is always to give them more of that, which failed them. What about the school system? There's a big drive. Get rid of police unions. What about the teacher unions? We can't get. Young black children who are struggling to read and write out of public schools because teachers unions don't want them to go anywhere else. Their their captive to the system. What about the government healthcare system? We gotTA. Give more government healthcare. Not Allow any free market reforms to the healthcare system. Because you know the free market is bad. And what about within these communities where there is violence in there is crime and is black on black crime is it's not white people coming in to to commit the crime? It's black on black crime. What do we do with that? Do. We not talk about that. Do we believe you know that there's this this idea to some people. Now I I see it more and more on the right used to lead on the left that if you're not in a particular community, you can't talk about it so for example I if you did not go. If you do not join the military, don't talk about the military only. Only left wing hack who had joined the military and hate it can talk about it, or you can't talk about medical issues because you're not a doctor, or you can't talk about issues within the black community because you're not black, we see this as society divides everyone else, but should we be concerned with the number of people being killed within the black community. The crime and the drugs and the failure of schools and the collapse of families. You know this black lives matters, organization actually says that it is a a a western thing, the the Western the nuclear parent, the nuclear parent household is a Western thing. They wanted to disrupt it. No one is opposed to people living in a community with the community taking care of each other's children. But to undermine the nuclear family have just given up on it. We've decided that the nuclear family is somehow. Not Good. No it's actually very good and all the data shows and yet we've got to ignore that data because we don't want to make. People feel bad. Okay from broken homes. We don't make people feel bad. Who Have Single Moms? We don't WanNA. Make the single moms feel bad, so we're not allowed to talk about it. There's a lot of stuff we're not allowed to talk about, and that gets to to this listeners email. In his point. How much of this are we really allowed to talk about? because. There's a great deal more that we should talk about, and it's not happening in conversations in in a black media voices. It's not happening white media voices. It's not happening in the media. There are a host of problems in. It's not just police brutality. And it's not systematic racism. And a lot of people are trying to blame it on systematic racism. When they're other problems. Including an overly helpful government that decided that it could take away people's need to help themselves. And it did so lovingly, and it did so to nurture did so because we they were at a time when great society and the rest were passed, we were at a time where there was still a lot of racism in this country openly so. But it didn't necessarily. Help people. And now we have this situation. And we have. These dead people in Chicago. Victims of violence and it happens on a daily basis. And it never gets coverage and when the right points out when there's a school shooting, we say hey, look at all the people who got killed so no, we're not gonNA look there. When do we ever look window? We ever look there. When do we ever look at? The failures of the medical community. Window ever look at the failures of the schools were not allowed to look at the teachers. Unions note we can't look at the figures of public schools. Until. We're really willing and able and honest to address these other issues, and you know I and I'm not GonNa say that you know what conservatives have every answer not going to say that I believe conservative Phyllis Philosophy helps. Getting people to be independent and liberty minded and focusing on their own care, but we do have to have government involvement. In some cases, we do have to have a social safety net for those who will not be able to take care of themselves. But it does seem to me to be worth considering maybe the government particularly. If you believe the idea that the whole thing's racist may be, the government has made the situation worse. I. Don't actually think that's necessarily the case, but in some cases it certainly has i. don't actually think we're we're. We're dealing with systemic racism across the board I. Really don't. But they're certainly racism. There are certainly institutions that ignored black voices. They're certainly institutions that ignored the black family. There are certainly institutions that could have been better, but there are a whole lot of institutions right now. Including the media that are ignoring those same things they wanNA focus on this aspect of it because it was caught on tape, and you don't see the daily death toll. You don't see the daily inequality. You don't see the daily. Lag in healthcare. You don't see the daily communities crying out because of crime and drugs and their communities. You don't see that. Nobody talks about that and when you raise it as white person frequently when you raise these issues. You're not allowed to talk about these things. You just not well. Nobody else who's going to talk about him win. Do we talk about these things publicly because I? I guarantee you there actually people listening to this right now. Who are white who are thinking you know what the reason the police do. This is because a crime in the black community and and crime is so much more in the black community and black on black crime is such a big thing. That's why the police do it. There are people who I guarantee you out there saying that right now. And it would help if we actually started having conversations instead of letting those ideas fester. It would help if we actually had deeper conversations about what is going on. And what can we do and it's not all the system at some point you have take individual responsibility, but let's not ignore all of that happening right now. Let's not ignore those desk. Let's not ignore those people falling behind. Let's not ignore the collapse of public schools. Let's. Say Things. And yet we are. And so to go full circle I have this got this email. From a listener who is black? Who says? We should focus on the outrages of. And on Aubrey caught on tape. But. Why do we only focus on those? When caught on tape? And not all the other outrages that are out there that should make your blood boil on a daily basis, not all because of government, not all because a systemic racism. But frequently within the black community, and no white people seem to ever want to care about it and you know I did. Reply back in one of the things I did did say to him as you know. There I get the sense. There is a fear. In the media in particular white people in the media that you're not supposed to talk about the stuff in that if you do somehow, it's Regina racism, which can't be the case. There need to be conversations. And right now there aren't and that is as much of the problem is the rest of this? It's good. We've begun the conversation, but I also have the sneaking suspicion. It's going to be left by the wayside. that. Is a problem in and of itself as these protests gather, and and things you, these protests continue, and there are more and more cries of of. Of Injustice and we've got our revolution and you know this is part of the problem is the left can help say? Ann Richard would say the former governor. They can't hit themselves. They can't help it. They want to overthrow the system. Listen, you've got the new. York Times peddling the sixteen nineteen project that all things in this country racist, the race was the foundational base of the country, completely revised his the left wants to up end all of American history American society in the Constitution. We're the reasonable voices on the right. Though saying we do need to have these conversations. We just don't need up in the whole system. Those we need those voices two and we don't have them right now, and that's a problem. So have you been canceled yet? Have you been canceled yet I I keep. We're all going to be canceled. Maybe we could cancel the year. It would be great twenty twenty. Fold. Okay there's there's. The reason I bring up canceling a cancel twenty twenty. Everybody's getting canceled, have you? Do you know who Hartley Sawyer is I don't know who Hartley Sawyer is. Let let me let me I. Mean I. I know for purposes of talking right now. Who Hartley Sawyer is? This is the dumbest story day. He is thirty five years old. He was on young in the restless. And now he's all well. He was on the flash. And he played elongated man Ralph Disney was elongated man on the flash TV show on the CW well. He was there. Let's see. He was all the flash from two thousand seventeen. Until now he was a recurring role in season four, and there was there in season five and six, and now he's been fired gone. Why because of a series of tweets he posted? From two thousand, nine to two thousand fourteen, so for two thousand, nine to two thousand fourteen. He posted things on social media. and. He's now been fired. And I it just it's it's. Let's say. He wrote the only thing keeping me from doing mildly racist tweets is the knowledge that Al. Sharpton would never stop complaining about me. He wrote in two thousand twelve in two, thousand fourteen. He wrote enjoyed a secret. Boo View it in an audition today. And and. Several other my words. He issued an apology, but y'all. Listen His statements of had a lot of very offensive there two thousand nine to two zero. Is He the same person in two thousand twenty that he was in two thousand nine see the same person who those twenty that he was in two thousand ten. I mean he was? He was a teenager. And now he's. He's thirty five years old. Atom Rappaport same thing having you may not know who Adam rapoport is Adam rappaport the editor in chief of BOUGHT UP PETITE magazine. Subscriber here. We're used to be actually I. Don't Scrub Right now. he's quit. He was pushed out. There was a rebellion among staffers who said that minority voices at the magazine were being shoved aside one that said that minority voices were not getting compensated when appeared on videos. There's no truth to that apparently, but that didn't let the Internet. Stop No. The Internet fired it. It up. They pulled up a picture of him from two thousand seventeen in a halloween costume. And then they you know what's your name? Allison, Roman Alison enrollment is the food writer for the New York. Times who got into a tiff with Christy teagan and allison role men dressed as amy wine house in two thousand nine Ele- weaned cost doom, and people pounced on. That said she was. Ridiculing ethnic minorities by dressing like that in two thousand nine. The cultural revolutionaries are turning and Internet and you know I've got a theory. Many of the people who are the Internet bullies were the kids were bullied as kids. And now they have the power of the Internet and the cloud, and they are just as nasty as the others. It is Lord of the flies on the left right now. PIGGY GOTTA die. By, Sutter's reading, reading the Lord of the flies now, but in that that's exactly what's happening on the left right now. It is an American Cultural Revolution. You know the great big difference between the Chinese. Cultural Revolution and the American Cultural Revolution in China. Those people didn't live. The Ones Mao purged in the struck constant struggle. They didn't live in in this country. They're all gonna live in. It's GonNa be fascinating to watch what happens all these people by the way are on the left all of the people being purged or on the left. They're just not that far. Left there, the mensheviks and Bolsheviks or purging the party and it's fascinating to watch this dynamic caffeine on the left but all these people not like they're going away. They'll be rehabilitated in some way. They'll make some big contribution. People will say Nice things about them, and they'll slowly start coming back in the odds are it's all very fake? Which of course you know will lead to a greater purge later. When people decide, they didn't really mean it. They were lying. We must be more violent. It's fascinating. To Watch this bum, you know as long as they're fighting with each other. They're not coming for us so but be warned. This is going to continue in this country now. When we come back, let's shift gears. We have election here in Georgia today, primary elections, not a Lotta contested race to other congressional races are around the State Secretary State Brad Rathbun's Burger. He's going to join me to talk about this new voting machines happening in the state of Georgia Fulton County, naturally, having all sorts of problems. They always do in the in the state. We'll cover all this when we come back. Father's Day can be stressful trying to find the perfect gift for Dad Thankfully Tommy. John the Revolutionary Underwear and clothing brand knows that comfort. 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Return Them I know a number of people today. who had to go for? You file provisional ballots because they've got gotten absentee ballots at home, but then they didn't actually return them because they got him so late. Show up today, in South Fulton this is the Atlanta area for those who, outside that area There were machine problems this morning. They appear to be isolated in that area They are not statewide problems in the area. You know every election this part of the thing. You gotta understand though every single election. There are those. Political, agitators who claimed there a host of problems that if only we would listen to them, these problems would not exist. If only we would do it their way. These problems would not exist. And you got to weed through all that stuff to get what is actually going on out there right now, and what can actually be done out there right now? And frankly today's the election show. Show up and vote if you haven't voted after he show up and vote if you don't know who to vote for I've got some recommendations depending on your part of the state. You can text the Word Eric E. R.. I C., K.. Two, three, three, seven, seven, seven, here middle Georgia. I thought I could vote for Beth camp She's replacing kin. Kin Poland but too far outside my area. I don't have any contested races as a result on my republican ballot so I'll be voting in the Democratic primary because my local Da David Cook. WHO's a bit of very good? Da is a highly contested race and as a result of that. Contest I'M GONNA. Vote I mean. It's the only contested race on the ballot of the nonpartisan partisan races. Now everywhere you go in the state. You're GONNA have judges. You're going to have a supreme court and you'RE GONNA have court of Appeals vote for the incumbent, please. Regardless of where you are the state, you'll have the same races for the Supreme Court and the Court of Appeals in Georgia. Vote for the incumbents it is, it is critically important you vote for those incumbents. They are being challenged by left wing activists who are kind of probing the system trying hoping to get them thrown out of office. It would actually be a big deal if they did and part of. Of the problem right now honestly is that nobody really knows because of the pandemic. No one has really any sense of what's going on on the ground. As I was talking to a campaign operative last night, he said the numbers are just crazy. They've never seen the number of people voting like our voting in his area largely because of absentee balloting and they just nobody knows what to predict. It's it's. A political former political consultant. This is always the fun time because you really have no idea. Today's the day I would always sit in my hammock all day and just just wait for the bowls to come in. Because there's literally nothing you can do on election day of your political consultant but there is somebody who has a lot going on today and yet he's taken time out of his busy schedule to join us for a little bit. The Secretary of State Brad Wrath Burger joining me now from Atlanta. How are you? I'm doing great Eric What about you I am doing well. So. Today's the day is a candidate for consultant. You can do absolutely nothing, and this is the day I'm sure your field in reports from all over the state about different issues. So how's IT looking out there? Well, we're actually COBB county right now. It is just running room, but that goes to the confidence of the COM Cobb county election officials. Obviously, we're hearing about the full Makoni a failures at frustrating I live in Fulton County, but it's happening north. Bolton south folding central. County. They had two additional months. to get ready. They've had those machines in place for six months they could have been training training and retraining it there folks. Like they just have user of the poll. Workers and it's just unacceptable, and that's why we opened up an investigation. Last week. We had the issues with the absentee ballots that just. People applied early. They never got him when they got him late. And that's just unacceptable. I. Know The commissioners you know. They're hearing from their voters. Arab set and they're seeing these just line. Fulton failures. Well. You know I want to focus on this for a minute. Because every time this happens, there are stories, and it doesn't matter whether it was Kathy Cox or carrying handler Brian Kemp. Were you The media blames the Secretary of State for these, but the county of elections who run these elections and and they oversee them, and it seems like it's always the same counties that have the same problems in. You're not responsible for it. No if we were responsible for Fulton, we would cleaned house long time ago, and it would've put it that team like I. Put into. Stand up this absentee ballot program. You think about sex days. We got the applications out for the absentee ballot. That's something that even the private sector product could have handle we. We have a great team, but they all come. The private sector experience we now to get things done but with Fulton. Voters were at the whim of the Fulton County election and the officials that they hire, and so they're the ones that suffer. The voters have end of the day, but I. Look at what's. Going on Richmond County Columbia County skokie county. Other counties get right on one hundred fifty nine counties. There's just one that stands out there like a really bad apple and it's. It's sad because it's the voters I voted absentee and I'm glad I did based. WanNa see. Today. Well now let me ask you about voting absentee. Because you, you really did get the jump on this. And in there were some people who are somewhat critical of I'm glad she did I. I'm actually decided I'd just go vote and person because I wanna see the new machines today and well, I ran out the clock to let's be honest, but at the same time you had massive success with absentee balloting. Yes. We did well one of the things. Many people don't understand it is. There is a a really rightful concern about the absolute about for many other states, but in Georgia last year with House Bill Three Sixteen. The legal to do ballot harvesting. That's a good thing. We also allowed us the secretary of State's office to join Eric. The Electronic Registration Information Center so we could update or voter rolls in Los Angeles. County, they have one and a half million more registered voters than people live in the county now. What does that lead to dirty lists lead to voter fraud and so? Georgia has done a really good job and. And we have signature match. We also asked for your birth date on the application. So I feel really good about our process we we have guardrails in place and the General Assembly understand that we need to have appropriate guardrails. We want everyone to vote the WanNa make sure that it truly is a person that is in Georgia visiting the right district and you know fills all the qualifications to be lawful voter. Now. What do you say to people who would want to ban the absentee process or get rid of in person voting altogether? Go to. The left right now who wanted to get rid of in person voting altogether and just do absentee voting. Oh, absolutely not. Have you really look in Georgia? Up until this election, only seven percent of the people are voters would actually vote you know through the absentee process? People like showing up at the polls. It's really and I it's bipartisan both those folks like showing up at the polls. It's just in our DNA. Perhaps and I think that's the way we need to go. We need to make sure that we have the appropriate guardrails in. In place and make sure that we have up-to-date equipment which we put in place this year, so I feel really comfortable. Where we are we also have right now a bill in in place it's over on the house side to shorten lines, and that would be a great thing to do and that would really help you know two years out when we have more congressional races. Now ee regarding that shorting lines of one of the issues that we deal with every year here in Georgia is, we largely rely on senior citizens to help run the polls with with the various poll workers of the state and every year. There seems to be concerned that we're not gonNA have enough people bigger concerns this year because of the virus. Can Can. You talk about that in what can be done to to help alleviate that situation. Well! It's really poll. Worker recruitment needs to go year year round. Pretty off your cycles the people. Really personal awareness. How important role this! and. It really requires people to have. The most important marching in your life is time margin because it doesn't pay that much to be a poll worker, and that's why you know. Generally you'll find people they they've you know finished up their career, and so now they have the time to give back to the community. It's true communities for this when you're poll worker, but it's very important, because if you don't have porkers, and how would you election so there? It's critical, obviously with vet and the average age of our pork is being seventy it if it's true, some challenges there for the county but. The counties have really done a good job by March other than the issues I'm seeing. Today I'm really pleased with. The efforts of our county election officials. Now! Let's expand this little more because this is the this is the first year we're using the new machines How have they been received so far? Very well I think what I hear the most. I guess they come in here the most. Voters to feel like my book counts like really see my choices before actually put it in a scanner. Actually verify that that's who they wanted it. Just really giving the internal confidence that it actually was recorded. With the D., r. e. machines, sometimes you. Pressed all those. Did it actually get everything I wanted you know, and after you press the button, you can never really verify your choice here prints out. You can look at all your choices. Verify your choices, and then you can put it on. The scanner and people just really liked that and I think that's good. We have confidence in the system. the more areas we have comments I think the more stable that makes our society. The people know that person really did win, not personally. And then when someone really does lose, they can't be running around trying to make money off the for the next three or four years. Well said. One last question for you here the win the election ins this evening, and we go through the the absentees or Canada, the provisionals recounted. You begin to certify the results. What sort of things does the Secretary of State's office? Look at retrospectively to see what can be done better the next time? We'll look at the whole process You know what? Could we have improved. What would have been something maybe faster? What could we streamline There's lots thrown at us We're always doing three sixty and look at best practices them all. The, other states do some innovation say well. That's a great idea. and Things that happened. The warrant investigation symbol do investigations. Opened? One County. Well, good? Yeah I'm seeing Trindon on twitter right now. As as what's happening, there were those lines, so thank you for doing that and thank you for stopping by today and for rolling out these new machines. I hear good things about him. I'm excited to try to use them today. Could. Let us know what your experience was lying. There will thank you. Secretary of State Brad Raffles Burger joining me from. Cobb county today. Is he goes around the state. Looking at what's going on it is Election Day Georgia you can get out and vote until seven o'clock tonight across the state. If you haven't cast your absentee ballot and you got new voting machines to try out when you go, it is Election Day in Georgia and man I gotTa tell you it is fascinating to have seen. What do we do? Several weeks had protests. The people who want to open up the country. And the media shunned them and shamed them. And then we had this call for vote by mail. We can never go back to the polling locations again. We can never do it. Vote by mail now. All of that is disappear. Khan. And now we're focused on. We gotta have protests. We got a march in the streets. We gotta do these things. Listen to this. Mantra I think the Washington. Free. Beacon put this together credit work to do I think it's them. Put this together on the media's reversal and a far more serious seen watch these images, really just an ugly dangerous scene at the state capital in Michigan as we look at this extreme group of people, those pictures in those clashes really show the chaos and you're out there with with with guns I. Don't want to call them rallies. They're not protests. Protests quote unquote protests. I don't even think that that's the right word. Because protests are supposed to be peaceful, not embarrassed to say that I was afraid. It's not clear what they're demanding. Demanding to infect other people demanding to make other people sick, it's dangerous. These people can take this home with them and hurt their families, and all the rest I'd like to ask them if they're willing to sign away their rights to treatment if and when they get infected. You are I. Don't understand what is wrong with people stay at home. I want to be clear and how I characterize this. Mostly approach cast. It is not generally speaking unruly batting a riot. What we're seeing right now in Minneapolis, any reasonable person. Let's say we shouldn't be destroying other people's property, but these are not reasonable times, and please show me where it says the protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. The beautiful thing is we're seeing citizens who are carrying concern. They're hitting the streets heartwarming to see so many people turn out peacefully broke. I think this is a march really but as they're coming off, it's peaceful. They're saying peaceful protests and across the country they're. Bringing, people together community with unity. People are risking cove did to explain to this country that we're fed up. y'All. It is striking. It really is striking to see the see the reversal here. Listen to this NBC news medical contributor absolute in a coal. Out with other physicians and nurses in Seattle over the weekend what we doctors for Justice March? We redoing. We're passing out masks. We're making sure that if you didn't have mask and you had a megaphone, you were protected. Is some of my colleagues for Terrell? We want as much as anything for social justice to take center stage because poverty racism. They actually Dan actually bigger killers than corona virus by the statistics. So this is the right thing to do, but to do it safely so masks all the time. Social distancing as you can do it. Cheryl minimizing touching face. Those things we keep beating that drum those report if you're docking nerves if you'RE A. A health professional out protests. Please be somebody that's passing all this message in evangelize Hannah bring a spring. Carell with you, so there's a way to do it and hopefully do it safely. I will say we should all be expected. That cases arise we have it's study out of Germany Nicole that showed could people that went to a carnival of transmission rates increase almost threefold amongst individuals that went to a carnival in Germany, and so we should expect an increase in cases, and it's going to stress. Our healthcare system doesn't mean that we shouldn't be out there protesting. It just it's fascinating to. They would not give this advice to the people who wanted to go back to work. They would not give this advice to the people whose businesses were going bankrupt. But they want to give it to the protesters now. They don't WanNA shame. These protesters If you're white protesting because you're going bankrupt, will by God let Your Business Burn, but but now no, let's get out there and put on a face mask and protect the whole thing is just a hypocritical e listen. I I have a fear. That there will be a second wave of this virus and that it will be bad. And it will be made worse because epidemiologists across this country and the news media have completely discredited themselves. When they told everyone to shelter in place to flatten the curve, and we did, and the curve flattened, and they said no. No, you can't leave yet because we haven't cured it. And, then you definitely can't leave to protest about reopening, but by God get out there on the streets as quickly as you can in protest injustice in America unless the injustices you being shut out of Your Business and going to jail for during to cut someone's air. They have discredited themselves. You know we need an honest media. We need a objective scientists. It's like okay. Have you heard about the J. K. Rowling Thing Jackie, rolling the altar of Harry Potter. Is a opposed to getting rid of woman nece now. What do I mean by that? What she mean by that well, she doesn't like the fact that that people will come out and say that people can have periods. Sh actually responded and said actually I. It's there's a name for that. It's not people's called Women Only. Women have periods. Trans activists and leftist are trying to burn this woman who is solidly on the Left. And they're trying to burn down for daring to say only women can have periods. Daniel Radcliffe, who played Harry Potter in the movies came out and said you know The medical community actually says that that Trans Women are women. The and they know more than Joe and me Joji. J. Rallying. Okay, so you've got you've got a dude man. SPLAINE to a woman that are people than women can be women and citing medical professionals. What about the science? There's not a bit of science out there. That says men can become women or women can become in. Not Not a bit of it out there. And yet. That's what that's what they do that. That's what they edited for. How y'all got a man. It is it is amazing to me? For All the all of you who are just waking up and realizing how the scientific medical community has been hijacked by these people. been saying it for awhile. That when when they come out, and they say you know boys can become girls girls. Can you're born gay or straight, but you get to pick your gender. That's not science that is, that is religious dogma, and now we're seeing it with protests. You can't go protest to open your business, but you can protest this injustice that the media gives you permission for the hypocrisy. Not they are discrediting themselves before our very eyes. Hello, it is Erickson here the phone number if you WANNA be a part of the program. Eight seven, seven, nine, seven, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. And let's see Um but oh. Let's see This is hang on. This is worth playing Joe. Biden has an advertisement out We should play this. The what it is. I haven't seen it yet. A Republican friend of Mine Senate along and said. this could be powerful. Let is what is it? The history of this nation teaches us that. Some of our darkest moments of despair. We've made some greatest progress. Thirteenth Fourteenth Fifteenth Amendments. Follow the civil war. The greatest economic. Growth in world history. Grew out of the Great Depression. Civil Rights Act, nineteen sixty. Four Voting Rights Act of sixty fine. Came in the tracks of Bull Connor's vicious dogs. Paraphrase wherever barber. The mortgage. Refined hope. It's going to take more than talk. Had talked before. Protests before. Got A now and make this leash the mirror action versus degration long overdue concrete changes. That's what the present Z.. Duty to care. To care for all of us. Not just to vote birth, but all of us. Not just our donors would all. Screw take the of a generation. We stand together. Finally one America. Rice stronger than we were before. Look. That is good ad. Is a good ad. and I. It is probably a measure of the ad that all sorts of trump's supporters are pouring down vitriol on it right now, but you know, listen Give the man is, do he put a I just? I'm still even when I see the Joe Biden. When I seen. The Joe Biden of now I really. He's had some work done, and he can denied all he was. He's had some work done, but the Joe Biden of today is not the Joe Biden a four years ago. The problem, the president has though. Is there a lot of people don't care? The president is online right now. tweeting out how? this is this is. A conspiracy you know the cops who share shove the seventy five year old guy. He could have been ANTIFA. The president needs to lead his twitter account and focus on on getting people back to work and keeping them safe. and. Right now you know Tim, Alberta who is of National Review. Pedigree is conservative now writes a politico has had enough with trump, and has never been a fan of trump doesn't like trump. Writes critically of trump, but I I've I've got I've I've got to tell you that He is noticing a trend among Republicans Republicans in particular to abandon the law and order cinnamon of the president. Not and you need to understand this because it has nothing to do with being soft on crime, but it has to do with the abandoning old rhetoric and changing the way we talk about the issue recognizing their problems, and you do have some voices a if for example Tucker Carlson after Nikki. Haley for daring to express some level of sympathy George. Floyd situation wanted to toe the line. Listen Tucker's got A. A massive massive bully pulpit out there, and he is going to be able to cajole some Republicans to hold the light. I I'm not sure though how well the line can be held except for the fact that I'm convinced the left overreacts on all this stuff. They're going to overplay their hand on this stuff. The left always overplayed their hand on the stuff and they will do it again. yeah, I mean for example. Let's take the the situation of the White House. Here's the attorney general. William bar talking about it. Is Somewhat been created and miss created in the sense that I haven't seen any videos on TV of all the violence. That was happening. Preceding, we're hit or something or thrown. Something was thrown at you I did go to the park before the actual operation to move out the perimeter, and I personally saw projectiles thrown into or thrown at May, and the police officers there. My security detail made be moved back because they said that projectiles had been landing in a certain area rock. Things like rocks. Bottles thrown at me. They weren't the peaceful protests now. I, I will say this. The the park police did lie when they say no tear gas was used. Tear gas is not just one particular type of gas. It is variety of things to make people tear up coffee. You smoke canisters and pepper, spray or pepper pellets together to get people out of the park to clear it for the president. We now know that the original stories well from the white. House wasn't quite truthful. There was some level of coordination there. But the media tried to play this all a super peaceful. And, it really wasn't that peaceful. It never underestimate the ability of Democrats to overplay their hands. In fact I'm told reliably bought by one of the senior Democrats. They are deeply concerned about The the far left within the Democratic Party right now they're deeply concerned about the Alexandru. Kazu Cortez's of the world pushing the party further to the left on a host of these issues. In fact, the Democratic Party leaders are behind the scenes pushing back very hard on the idea of fun defunding the police because they're afraid that these progressives are gonNA. Overplay their hands. I. It's it's. It's GonNa. BE FASCINATING TO WATCH DONALD TRUMP. Get reelected after all this. Because, you know if the election were held today, a whole lot of people just would stay home. They're just disgusted. And that actually helps Biden more than trump There you're going to see a reckoning. Though on the Democratic Party citing thing the I just I want to throw this out there for you. This is really what I wanted to talk about. Here. I wanted to throw this out there though. Can you imagine that ad I just played? LemMe Lemme I it again. This is this is. This is worth delayed I. WANNA play this ad again I this this thought pops into my head as I was watching the first time let me play this ad again. I want you to listen to this. This is Joe Biden's message. Clearly, targeting black voters may maybe because he's GonNa have a black vice-president on a low Let's listen to this. Some of our darkest moments of despair. We've made some of our greatest progress. Thirteenth Fourteenth Fifty amendments. Follow the Civil War Greatest Economic. Growth World History. Grew out of the Great Depression. Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four voting rights act of sixty five. Chain, tracks of Bull Connor's vicious Stoxx. To paraphrase. Phrase River Barber. Refined hope. It's going to take more talk. Had talked before. Protests before. Got Now vowed to make this leash the mirror action versus. The long overdue concrete changes. I'm going to stop it there. We got a reverse systemic racism with long overdue concrete changes. What happened to the Democratic? Party, if Joe Biden does get elected in November and none of this happens. What happens to the poor I I'll tell you what that party it. Everybody's looking for the crackup of the Republican Party. There's going to be crackup of the Democratic Party. If that happens. If if that actually happens. You're going to see the the democratic. Party turn on itself, and they're going to head towards the deep thoughts of Alexandria. 'cause you Cortez, and it's going to end badly for them. They will be you know Alger. Cortez could potentially lose her own reelection bid. Because, you know. She chased out Amazon from her. put a bunch of people out of work in in Queens or Brooklyn or wherever she was a lot of people. They're very upset with her The Great Mind Alexandra Cortez, a an adviser to Joe Biden is going to throw you listen. She backed Bernie Sanders. She didn't want by. She didn't even go for Elizabeth Warren. She went with Bernie Sanders. Bernie, Sanders have man who's not even a member of the Democratic Party. If Joe Biden were to do all of this run, those sorts of ads get elected and nothing changes. Good Lord you would see the crackup of the Democratic Party. I mean look what's happening with. The woke progressives right now turning on each other, you got the editor in chief of bottom petite magazine chased. Chased out the door for something happened years ago. Alison Roman of the New York Times nearly chased out for something she did in two thousand nine. You Got Refinery Twenty nine some lifestyle site. That person was chased out as well because she didn't listen enough I. Mean you're having the purges beginning on the democratic side? They just have an inside the party they will. and. Deep thoughts. Eggs Andrea. Cortes. See It's so weird? It's like everybody is like a spy. Like is so bizarre. It's like you could go out and get a cup of coffee and the person that's like sitting at the table in the corner of the restaurant is like you know like. Then they go and text all of their friends that they saw so-and-so at this cafe and it's like triangulation. It's super weird. It's just like. Super Weird. That was deep thoughts. Alexandria Cossio Cortes. Now full disclosure there. We didn't change a word. In what she said. We did not change a word in what she said. And she is increasingly a voice that is listened to on the left, and within the Democratic Party it. Let's let's just be honest. You're Joe. Biden is giving her head Pat. But Man of Joe Biden doesn't do the things he sets out to do on this campaign. The democratic. Party is going to fracture badly. You really are going to see the the far left really fundamentally takeover that party. It's going to be intense to watch. It's GonNa be Kinda, funny to watch I would much rather it happened if if Joe. Biden doesn't get elected, but my goodness one way or the other. It's going to happen the lead. The far left of this country increasingly cannot be contained by the Democratic Party and every single time. They tried to advance in this country, and they get nowhere because the. The democratic establishment stops them. They just get angrier and they get more people to come into the again. This is important. Bernie Sanders was not a democrat. He's an independent the democratic socialist. He's on the left. He's not of the Democratic Party, and there actually is a different still between the Democrats and the Democratic Socialist, although you'd never know it, because the overwhelming number of the most vocal people on the left are socialists. They're not actually within the mainstream of the democratic. Party their day of reckoning for that party. It's coming. Just as Donald Trump was disruptive of the Republican Party. They will be disruptive of the Democratic Party. The differences that Donald Trump got to run against Hillary Clinton. Who everybody hated and that gave him a shot Joe Biden even if he wins people like Joe Biden, and he's not a fundamentally transformative person he can't be. Demand is eighty years old now he could die in office and the president could become president. He could God forbid, but it could happen. I mean this is why Democrats are sticking so much on vice president. But Man Y'all? If Joe Biden becomes president. He served for four years. In leaves because he said he's going to be one term guy. He searched for four years at he leaves, and he has. It made the changes that he said he would make. You're going to see the Democratic Party captured by the Left, and it is going to be intense to behold hello there, the full number, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. I put this off. I keep putting it off. There's other stuff that comes up, but hey. There is a website and it annoys me. De News that that's Actually D.. In Y., U., Z. D. N. Y. Jozy. It deserves to go out of business just for that name. Nonetheless. There is a Oh it's it's in the. New, York Times let's go with the new. York Times here. Here, we go Ostad Herndon added turned in is is he's just a reporter for the national political reporter based in New York City. The headline. Is this the year Georgia flips? With both Senate, seats and play and president trump up for reelection. November Georgia. Democrats are telling anyone who will listen this time. It's real. There's a joke about Atlanta's most popular sports team, and how they often fail to reach their potential. The Atlanta Hawks Franchise has gone more than sixty years without an NBA championship in two thousand seventeen during super bowl fifty one. The Atlanta Falcons were up twenty eight to three in the third quarter against the new. England patriots you. What happened next? Georgia Democrats longest source of hope for the National Party are seeking to avoid a similar reputation in two thousand sixteen prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign famously crowed about a changing electoral map that may Georgia winnable for Democrats only to lose the state and the election the following year Democrats Washington expensive special election campaign slip through their fingers and the year after that Stacey Abrams a former State House minority leader, captured national attention and drove record turnouts, but lost the race for governor to Brian. A Republican, who has stuck close to president trump since his election, but now. How with two Senate seats in play and Mr Trump on the ballot in November Georgia. Democrats are telling anyone. Who is this time Israel? State elected officials are urging National Democrats including Joe Biden, the presumptive presidential nominee to make a big investment in the state, pumping the type of staffing and advertising money to Georgia, that is usually reserved for Wisconsin's and Michigan's the dream scenario, which would include presidential and Senate victories, but also wins in the state legislature could up in the balance of power in Washington and provide a roadmap for other southern Democrats who are seeking to make gains after years of being shut out on Tuesday. Democrats will choose from seven candidates in the race. An to against an incumbent Republican, David Perdue. The favourite Tuesday is John off thirty three who lost the closest watch special election and twenty seventeen and has returned to ck office. He earned the endorsement of Representative John Lewis the civil rights icon. If no candidate receives fifty percent support in a crowded primary field, there will be a runoff part of this is the collapse of the GOP southern strategy Mr. Ossoff said. Said referring to the controversial political playbook, attributed to President Nixon us to win over white voters in the south. We were meant to be distracted by racial and cultural divisions, but George has moved beyond that in the coalition that's already been built statewide right now transcends race transcends urban suburban rural divides and transcends regionalism, and we're seeing this. Play out across the south. Oh Lord. it is is fascinating. To me. It is genuinely fascinating to me. That we have a scenario where the Democratic Party every year, and by the way they leave out twenty, twelve and twenty fourteen in two thousand, Twelve Obama tried to make a play for the state because the Democrats that it was in two thousand fourteen. Remember you had all the polls came out the said Michelle. Nunn was ahead and Jason Carter was ahead. Shel none ahead of David Purdue Jason Carter ahead of the deal, and just just we need a little money. We need a little money in two thousand, sixteen, the same thing in twenty eighteen, the same thing and now and you know what's so interesting. Is that Stacey Abrams used to predict twenty twenty, two now twenty. Twenty Twenty, two or twenty, twenty four would be the time that Georgia went blue. And and you know we may still be and the state. Republican Party in the state of Georgia does have problems the state of the Republican Party Georgia. They really do have fundamental problems. The Party needs money. The Party needs better organization. David Shafer. Thankfully, the party chairman is doing a very good job. Job At reinvesting in the infrastructure of the State Party the state that grew stagnant under Nathan deal, who really did not invest the way he should have in the Republican Party as old I'll deal, had been a Democrat or Republican. not very invested in the long term health of the Republican Party in the state unless you're in the Gainesville area in the north Georgia area. The state is making a bigger commitment or the Republicans in the state or making a bigger commitment. Now you have problems in the state though. You've got Nathan you've got. David Roulston tied up and scandal. In fact you've got David Ralston today down in the peachtree city newnan areas spending. Resources to try to help a an opponent to an incumbent Republican. Because the incumbent Republican is against corruption. That's right. You heard me the speaker of the House David Ralston Spinning Republican donor dollars to beat a Republican who is against corruption. You've got problems there. Across the board. You got problems for the GOP in Georgia. They should not take anything for granted, but the idea that the state is suddenly at the cusp of blue is not really true, and we've heard the story over and over and over again listen. If the GOP doesn't do something to the state. It's going to happen. But. The president is still ahead in polling against Joe Biden. Even though he's had a very bad time. It's just striking to see. Were the. Although it could incentivize Joe Biden to pick Stacey Abrams to be his vice presidential nominee in February. When covid nineteen was a distant concept to most Americans, gold was in the fifteen hundred dollar range. The Dow was over twenty nine thousand today. Is the virus tears apart? The economy goals over seventeen hundred dollars in the Dallas around twenty four thousand, wait, six thousand wobbling in between major market disruptions favor gold instability uncertainty in painting inflation. They all favor. 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NO OBLIGATION KIT GO TO BIRCH GOAL DOT COM Slash Ericsson. That's B. I. R. C. H. Gold Dot, com slash Erickson your I, C K s o N. Hello there welcome Missouri keurigs in here. The Eric Erickson show the phone number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five there is you know I mentioned? that. There is a big democratic turnout in Georgia. There's all these stories is Georgia GonNa. Turn blue and they're looking at the primary turnout, but you gotta remember. That, the major contest now there are in some parts of the state, so you got the the six, the seventh, the fourteenth and the night, and those are high population areas of the state. and you've got contested primaries. You've got the the Tom Graves seat. You've got the Doug Collins seat. You've got the loose Macbeth seat. You've got the ROB Woodall seat. Those are contested races for Republicans, and there are a ton of people running in those races, but on the democratic side. You've also got some highly contested races in for example. Gwinnett county so England county. County. You've got this big wave underway. Moving the the county more towards the Democrats and the Democrats are turning out, so you're going to see these stories. Come out about how look at the primary Democrats overwhelmed. Republicans in the state es except When you get into the local elections, a whole lot of people are voting in the I mean I'm voting the democratic ballot. Because that's the only consideration David produce race not contested the president's race, not contested in my area congressman. Not really 'cause they're people. Put their names on the ballot, but nobody takes him seriously. State House. Race not contested state. Senate race not contested so it depends on where you go in the where you're going to see this turnout, and and the media will make a big deal out of the Democrats turning out so overwhelmingly much more so than the Republicans, but I would be careful with that now you do need to turn to. If you ever voted FC ballot you can vote until seven o'clock today except in Fulton County I'm told. told all over the state, the the line moving very smoothly. People social distancing people are wearing masks They're going through quickly and efficiently, and you got the new machines today, and that ultimately is why decided not to run out and do an absentee ballot. I want to go see the new machine so I'll go vote when I'm done with the show. I'm going to go over and vote My polling precinct is just across the street from my neighborhood. and. Guess. What is it used to be able white? Now it's turning point. I don't know So we've got this church across the street from US and the church was Mabel White, and now it's got aside. This is turning point able I'd I've never quite sure what's up with that? But that's my polling and it's it's. It's near my neighborhood, so I'll I'll go right across and be able to vote and it never well. I take that back in twenty eighteen in the governor's race. In two thousand eighteen of the governor's race, it probably took me thirty minutes to vote. Normally it takes less than ten and apparently pulling Israelite over. You know I can fly my drone over and see what the line looks like I should do that, but it's. It's not a bad line, so I'll go vote, but just keep that in mind now. The Republicans presume that Jon Ossoff is going to win the Democratic primary for the US Senate. They presume that he will be the nominee in already starting to get the the mail. Here's the thing with Jon Ossoff. He checks the boxes for the national media, a telegenic young Progressive Democrat. Who, when the cameras are rolling starts speaking with the cadence of Barack Obama, saying all sorts of grand and glorious. Vapid platitudes that don't actually mean anything. In fact if I were the purdue camper, an outside group I would take all of Jon Ossoff statements, and I would just run them They're the. Word Salads I believe in the future of the people that the people themselves will bring if the government rises up to the people to give them what the people desire to bring to the people I believe. Yes, we can. because. He's just like Barack Obama and you're like what the hell did that guy just say? That that is John also I, believe that we can change the change that we need to change to bring about the change in our community for the greater cause of change for the Great Union of the People's Republic of what we want to change it to who? John. Normal people are like what this guy. I mean I could you could feature an ad of John also where you literally have somebody die great now now that he knows what diagram cynicism anymore, but you diagram the sits. Question what is this guy saying I mean because that is his stick. Me Jon Ossoff says says these the most profound high sewri rhetoric things until you actually. Pay attention to what he's actually saying, and then you realize that he's really not saying anything I it's. Change will not come. If we wait for some other person. Or if we wait for some other time. We are the change I I'm not gonNA keep playing that out because the audio so law, but you you get Jay. We are the change we've been waiting for that. Is that is a Barack Obama line that Jon Ossoff Woods, we would let the what are some of the other words Salads that John we need to define the police by reforming the police with more money from the federal government to defend the police the local level so that we can pay them more, and so that we can have reformed police. Thank you, thank you very much. So the okay, so he's probably going to be the Democratic nominee more likely than not there will be a runoff. You know, can we? Can. We can I just just for a moment. Please I need to pivot I. Need to rearrange my microphone 'cause. I need to look sincerely at the camera for just a moment. Dear Theresa Tomlinson. You tried to think out the box spy running from. Everyone by running your campaign from Columbus. You didn't want to be in the Atlanta media market you. You wanted to show that you were a candidate for the rest of Georgia and then never went to the rest of Georgia to actually campaign. You decided that you were going out. Progressive Ted Terry a man who outraged you before he went away for failure to raise any money and yet still. Left a mark on the race by getting you to clown your cell phone camera by saying you were more progressive than him in the scorecards of Progressivism, because you were in ninety eight, and he was ninety five point five. And your campaign well, you never set up to take on a guy like John also because. You just never had your ducks row. You were a mayor of Columbus. Probably no more qualified to be Senator Than Jon. ossoff been yet. You were elected and you couldn't do anything with it. And Jon Ossoff today well, he's probably going to get out of this without even runoff, but hey, just just to make you feel better Jon. Ossoff took a few shots at you in his latest attacks. Just so you would feel like you were heard. Don't ever say you work, nor Theresa now goodbye I just the the Theresa Tomlinson campaign befuddled. She got all these Democrats to rally to her. She got all of these. Democratic Endured Roy Barnes endorsers. She got a whole bunch of endorsements, and then she just completely fell flat. just bizarre. She fell flat couldn't go anywhere with her campaign, is she? She lost people. She had a hard time managing the people she she micromanaged. The, whole thing was bizarre, and then there Sarah Rigs Amigo. I mean if anything see. This is the thing with also very much like so often twenty. What was it the current handlery? Seventeen special election against Karen Handel Jon Ossoff. He. was able to win by capturing the attention of Progressive Hollywood types who poured money into his campaign, so he could overshadow about fifteen sixteen people in the race remember they were all piled on the ballot together Republicans and Democrats and he was able to do this, and then he lost to carry handle in that district where it had massive turnout, and yet they still voted for Karen Handel over him. Now you've got this situation where he's running against Sarah Rigs Amigo Theresa. Tomlinson with Sir Riggs, Emeco. She was the democratic. Lieutenant Governor nominee in two thousand eighteen. In two thousand eighteen, this woman ran a statewide race and came close enough to Jeff Duncan to file a lawsuit challenging the election which she ultimately lost. And now. She's a nobody again. That was honestly that was the most bizarre thing that I don't think people. Of Georgia actually appreciate the woman who ran statewide for Lieutenant Governor and actually did a good job running for Lieutenant Governor in the state for a Democrat in the state of Georgia with Stacey Abrams at the top of the ticket. She get a good job getting herself. Media attention getting herself positive media mentions, and then she went back to run her father's business. It went into bankruptcy. She was able to turn that into an attack on the president for what he did to the economy with tariffs and the like, and then she did nothing. And she had the money to do something, and she did nothing, and she's going to go down in flames against channels of the whole thing. Just I don't understand it, I don't and and now they set us off. Here's the thing. Ossoff was never roughed up by the media because he was the media darling. Against Karen Handel, there is all sorts of opposition research against John Offs of like for example, he, he worked for Al Jazeera which is Osama, was Osama bin Laden's favourite TV network. Not only did he work for Aljazeera Hama Bin Laden's favourite TV network, but we're. Where does it get? Where does it investigative journalist? The amount of money that Jon ossoff apparently has. Is it his. Did he earn it? Come from his parents. What I mean there are all sorts of questions to raise about John. Also remember. The national media is not going to vet him, but the local media in Georgia tends to be more curious and less partisan than the national media, and there are all sorts of questions to be raised about him it. The whole thing is is shady, and you can be sure David Purdue is going to do that now. Here's the other thing. Is People Look at David? Purdue and they see him as some sort of with a silver spoon in his mouth. And that's not really true. David Purdue. Is a public school kid for Middle Georgia. Whose parents were public school teachers? He is an American success story. He did not inherit wealth from his parents. He got into the private sector and became successful, ultimately becoming the CEO of dollar, general. And now he's in the US Senate. And there are a lot of people who will look at David Purdue and they will paint him some out of touch rich guy when he has a very compelling life story and he's got the money to spend. Tell that story in his is a story. A lot of Georgia's either forgot her. They did not know. And they're going to figure it out. And all of these fan fiction stories of the left that this is the year Georgia turns blue will you can put them in the file and recirculated and twenty twenty two 'cause? I, just don't see us off is the type of person who's going to galvanize people to go out and vote for him and again you're in a presidential cycle and you're in a cycle. Frankly where the president is still it may only be a point or two ahead of Joe Biden in the polls, but in this environment in Georgia at a time, the Democrats say Georgia is suddenly a blue state. That's actually really good for the president, and that's going to trickle down the ballot to the Republicans. Now speaking of the economy This hour of the program is brought to you by first liberty, building and loan. If you're a business and you need access to capital I, liberty wants to help you. they specialize in helping businesses grow their businesses. 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And they want to hate crimes legislation that would essentially allow it to be politicized, so it would be a sec- modifier what that means is that you decided charge someone with a hate crime and say that they kill this person, or they damage their business or property because of the of their sexual orientation or their race or their ethnicity or their gender religion We would allow a judge to then enhanced. The sentence is so they go to the jury for the regular charge, and then the judge gets to determine. If it was a hate, crime annexed, enhance their sentence. Throw jail more. What you're gonNA find. Is that judges do this in campaigners. So the alternative that some of the Senate Republicans are looking at is. We don't just need to include the federal. List of protected classes and add sexual orientation to it which the left one so essentially it's a race sex. national origin ethnicity add to its sexual orientation. That's what the speaker of the House and the Democrats in the house want They also want to add police and political views. some of them do which I think is the right way to do. Listen Let's see we are in a situation right now. where I guarantee, you're going to start seeing violence against police. If you're GONNA, do a hate crimes bill, and and you think that the political winds are so strong. You can't avoid. It adds police to it and add political speech because you have on college campuses these days, increasingly radicals trying to shutdown conservatives. You should protect their speech. But then here's the other thing. which you need to do is make sure. that. You have a situation. Where the jury deals with this, not the judge. You WanNa get the politics out of it as much as possible and listen I oppose a crash legislation, but you know I always. Tell you people say that endearingly you people I know when you're the minority, even if you think you're right. No when you're in the minority, even if you think you're right. And I know I'm in the minority here. I know overwhelmingly. that. I'm in the minority on this and most people are okay with hate crimes Georgia's only one of four states without it. If people think might as well go ahead, give them a win. I still think it's wrong. I still think it's a thought crime. But I also do still think if you're in a situation. where? You can't avoid passing it. Then you should at least set yourself up. To protect other classes like police and political thought and political speech. And then you should also make sure and work very hard to make sure. That you're in a situation? Where you are. Letting the jury deal with it. and not a judge who could potentially politicize it. So. The new. York Times now calling for it. You'RE GONNA see pressure build now. Let me go to the phones. BILL IS calling bill welcome to the program. And, how you doing good? Well I went into my voting place today here in in Athens Georgia. In Clarke County I went to the same place, voted for for sixteen years and I did not exist on the voter rolls. And what was funny is my wife went in two hours behind me. and. She went through without an issue. I had to sit there and I had to sit there in the voting place and fill out a provisional ballot. And write all my information, and then they gave me a sharpie with A. Handwritten. Ballot and I had and I had to fill it out and folded up and put it on the paper. And then put it in the envelope and the envelope that they put it in makes you choose your party affiliation beside your name on the outside of the ballot. And then I was given a sheet that said that I should go to the board of elections within seventy two hours to verify that I this. And I don't understand why that happened. Because I mean I'm registered through my driver's license, I called the DMV and did their automated line and my driver's licenses current and valid, and like I said I've lived in Athens for twenty two years and voted at the same polling place in every single election and have never had an issue. Well I don't. I don't exist and I don't. So. What you're saying you're undocumented. American is what you're saying here. Listen. So I will tell you this. This does happen. You're not a little night. When I was a lawyer. I dealt with these issues, and no one can ever seem to explain how this happens, but you're not alone in the number of Georgians. This happens to and. A lot of people try to make this an issue of race, and it's not really an issue of race. it just it happens Y- someone they accidentally dropped. Say there are two of you and one of you should have been purged from the roles, and and because you both have the same name. Both of you actually daily get dropped because of. Of, the other guy was a non voter. These sorts of things happen. They can get it fixed with your provisional ballot, but be on top of that to make sure your vote does get counted. It is me welcome. It's Eric Erickson. Here of the full number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. And Yeah I did yes. The pause was actually just a brain fart. Sorry we have reached that point in the program where we have. Less than half an hour to go in my brain is starting to lock up on me. the Kentucky. Governor Andy Brochard. Okay, you know there's. I I'm awaiting the think pieces comparing. Matt Bevin to Donald Trump Matt. Who by the way I know? Unlike met Bevan Allot, but his campaign I was less than impressed with Matt Bevins' campaign. Matt Bevin A so. Let let me tell you a story about the the BEV, and by the way so I. Didn't I I back? Matt Bevin in the Senate. gainst. McConnell challenged Mitch McConnell years ago and then he ran on went on to become governor and I I didn't vacuum in the governor's race and I didn't vacuum in the governor's race. Because I honestly he was like at nine percent in the polls. It didn't seem like he had a shot at all. And so some friends of mine said listen to. Matt's an awesome guy and we would back him, but he doesn't have a shot and we got gun. This one guy who's who's on the cusp of of women and he's a good Christian guy better than the other guy could use sporting. I said okay, and then met those two guys that the two guys Matt was. was in third place. Those two guys destroy themselves in. Matt ran up the middle as the in one in good for him, and he I thought actually did a good job holding the line as governor. Kentucky but he did a lot of tone-deaf things. things that ultimately became unpopular made a lot of decisions in his last year in office. That rub people the wrong way and wound up losing Mandy Shar a lot of Republicans voted for the Democrat to be rid of a Bevan. And I keep waiting for the national media think pieces on the similarities between Bevan and trump. And I gotTA. Tell you can I can I just stop here? Can't can we have a? Let's have confessional moment showy. I didn't support the president in twenty sixteen for a variety of reasons that manner starting to. Come back up to the surface. And I told I've I've told him that I would vote for him in twenty twenty. And here's the thing is so in in two thousand sixteen. I never thought that he was going to win. And a lot of my friends like you're wrong now. I let me be clear. I would not have supported him if I thought he was GONNA win. I really don't find the man to be very likable and the stuff that even now that he's doing on twitter I. Think He. He's his own worst enemy and I think everybody listening kind of knows that he's his worst enemy. He lacks the self control in the impulse control to really focus the way he should. But and I just I. I didn't think he was GonNa Win Twenty Sixteen in all my, I know no trust me. People Hate Hillary so much. He's GonNa win He. He's GonNa win! And he did I was wrong at Crow on it. And Now we're in twenty, twenty, four June, ninth and twenty twenty. And most not all I I shouldn't even say most, but a significant portion of my friends who, in two thousand sixteen were telling me. I was wrong and he was GONNA win. Are Now telling me it's over. And I'm the guy say an no. It's June it can't be over it. June. We haven't even had the conventions yet. We don't even know who Joe Biden's vice presidential pick is going to be in these guys like. Nope, it's over. He clearly doesn't win. And I gotTA. Tell you I understand where they're coming from. You can see so clearly what the president needs to do because he's. He's not a challenger against Hillary Clinton now. He's the incumbent sitting president of the United States. There are riots in the streets. There are protests. We've got a global pandemic. We got economic problems. And on and on it goes. And the president is on twitter. tweeting out conspiracy theories about the old man who was shoved by the police in Philadelphia or Massachusetts were over. It was up north. He just he can't help himself. And so I understand people's frustration, but I also understand that it's June. And, if I, if I am in the role of someone who regardless of my feelings on the candidates, and just plain at straight at the analysis level, it's June. There is time now. Biden's lead continues to go up in. The polling in the polling is not really wrong. Per Se when you get to that level a when you get to ten percent in the polling were Joe Biden is. You do have trouble. In the president's team knows that there was a crisis meeting among the president's advisors over the weekends on what to do, and trying to get the president to focus on a message in this president doesn't like to focus on a message. This president actually believes. And he's got plenty of data to back him up on this that he's right. He believes that he's Best Messenger. The problem is the presence is own worst enemy as well. You know I was driving through I. If you've ever been to middle, Georgia, the lies, Zillah area is just gorgeous. It is, it's rule bid. County nomi everything's Big County is making and the city and the county consolidated, so it's making bid county, but there is an unincorporated area called Lilla. It is God's country with God's people in it is beautiful. It is rural their pastures. Woods. There's hunt landers land to RV their lakes. And there's out on Lake Toba. softgen making me and if I could win, the lottery had I'd I'd build a house out there. It's just it's pretty land. And, good people, and but I noticed something. We were just riding around the other day and I noticed that there are flags up in a lot of people's yards. And their trump twenty twenty-five or somebody on on near me, who actually has an American flag up and also twenty twenty-five I don't ever remember any presidential candidates flags flying in people's yards as if they're of that person's nation or state. And there are trump twenty twenty flags all over the. Area down towards Byron in Peach. County that area you see it all the time now. Where you used to see the old Georgia fly yet you see trump flags now. And these are good people salt of the Earth. People! And they feel Jiewen, left behind by society. They're lower middle class the poor. And they have been betrayed by both political parties. They have been lied to by both political parties. They supported George W Bush who was going to keep them safe in an effort two thousand four, he decided to put Harriet Myers this court and do immigration reform that gave amnesty to illegal aliens who are taking the jobs that displays these people and put them in their economic situation. Barack Obama decided to go after their faith based communities their their church-based nonprofits. He wanted them to pay for people's abortions. He was anathema to him. So here comes the. President of the United States Donald Trump. WHO SAYS TO THESE PEOPLE I am your guy. And you will be mine. I'll be your president and you will be my people. and. They had nowhere else to go. They didn't have a home with any of the other Republicans. They didn't have a home within the Democratic Party, so they went with trump the guy they watched on TV. The Guy! They knew he could be crass and vulgar. But he was with them, and they believed him. They knew he connected with them, and he still has their back, so they have his back. This, is the in my lifetime. I do not recall a candidate Donald trump a president like donald trump, who has so many Republican Party power players who publicly praise him and privately loathe him. But they all fear of these boaters of his, and and and frankly a lot of them drip with disdain for these voters I don't know what's going to happen to these people when Donald trump goes away. Really don't maybe baby Joe Biden will find a way to connect to them I. don't see I. See a lot of Republicans ostentatiously tried to help the. The president's leg to get the attention of these people say me me me I better than that guy up his leg better than that got. It really is embarrassing. I I. Am Barris for the people who were doing this. I call it ostentatious trump humping. It's just bizarre to see these people go through these elaborate rituals to prove that they're the aired. ATROP-. And they know that these voters are gonNA. Come for him. There will be people remember the scene in wizard of Oz where dorothy throws the water on the weekend, which the West and she begins to melt, and when she's gone, the soldiers turn out to be happy. The flying monkeys may have been angry, but the soldiers were happy, and that's what going to be like with Donald Trump leafs whether he loses, or he's term limited. When he's gone, you'll have a lot of republicans who openly begin to cheer. He's gone. And there will be a lot of people who are upset. That he's gone. Because they knew he had his back. And the question is going to be for twenty twenty four. Who can have those people's back while also bringing in other people by by maybe having some of the president's policies without having some of his Abrasiveness Josh. Hawley I think is trying to make a play for this. Nikki Haley is Tom. Cotton is a lot of them are. And the interesting thing is is across the board. You're going to have this purge within the party. There will be those who get purged because they weren't loyal enough to the president, and there will be those who get purged because they were too loyal to the president. It will be a very bizarre time for the GOP which makes me think if the president wins in twenty twenty, it will be delayed inevitably, Bhai couple of years, but if you lose twenty twenty by God the day after the election, the purchase begin. These these voters who fly the TRIPLEX. They're going to turn on John Bolton when his book comes out. You know they've loved John Bolton this crazy thing. How quickly people will turn on someone who? They believe betrays the President John. Bolton's been a hero for many of these people for years. He's been loved by conservative talk radio. He's been loved on Fox News. He's got a book that comes out later. This month at apparently is scathing about the president Have you ever seen game of Thrones Ramsay Bolton. He had those dogs. They turned on Ramsay Bolton the these people are like they will be like Ramsey's Bolton's dogs turning on John Bolton. They will tear him to pieces for being disloyal to the president. But I just I I WANNA. Talk about this for just a moment. Because a lot of these people, a lot of the Republicans who are standing shoulder to shoulder with the president, even if they don't like him, they're trying to use the president of the shield to stop the advance of progressivism in this country, but the advance of progressivism in this country I believe in a theological level is is really an advance against the faith in. You can't stop the world advancing. It's the faith on the world. Only God can do that. A lot of these people are using the president as a spiritual shield when he can't be spiritual shield. I understand why evangelical loyal to the present. I understand why people like me would vote for the President November. He is arguably the most pro-life president in our lifetime. The. Democrats have been at war with people of faith say they want to take tax exempt status from churches that will do gay marriage. The president stands with the police. I totally get that I'm with you. He's had great judicial picks. I'm with you. But I really think a lot of people are looking at him as a political savior to a spiritual problem in their life or the life of this nation, and that's not gonNA work. He! He's he's not, he's you. You think he's the guy who's protecting you, but actually he's speeding up the problem. The president there is ample data out there now, showing that the president is actually a catalyst for people turning hostile towards people of faith. There are so many Christian leaders in this country who have been clown themselves defensive this president, and by the way that's a criticism. None of the president's to criticism of the I mean some of these people that Jerry Falwell's Robert Jeffreys of the world. Who just get on TV and Hump the presence like? President says that that that planned parenthood is good. You too well planned. Parenthood does do some good things. Remember that from police sixteen. They do this sort of stuff and it's outrageous. Too, many people were golden supporting. They think they can and should behave like the president he this is what I've said all the time. He's got this great superpower where the president gets people to act in the way. They believe he acts so if you think the president is a womanizer, you will become a womanizer. If you think the president in tweets nasty stuff, you will tweet nasty stuff and there are a lot of people who see the president is A. A fighter and so they fight, and they choose to divide, and and they make it about US versus them. They see the political fight. It's a struggle between their way of life and something that's against their way of life and to a degree. They're right, but to a degree there so blitz busy clinging to this idea. They have of the United. States that may not be true. They can't actually recognize what the country is or what the country has become. People who are holding onto the last vestiges of something, and they're using donald trump to do it in any east term limited even if he wins. And I just I feel like we're in this period of sorting. It is a great period of sorting. Who are the people who really believe the things, they spouse. And the people who are just in the cult of personality, who are the Christians were the vandals who really believe by faith that they got an actual savior who created the universe, and who were those who claim to be of faith, but really their their bass boat on Sunday their vote for trump to be their savior. Who are the people who really believe limited government is good, and we need to control our finances, versus those who just mouth off about it, but they're happy to turn a blind eye win. Their party does all the stuff they say they. They disagree with it. We're we're in the sorting period of this country, and it's on both sides of the aisle and Donald Trump is not going to save us from progressivism, because progressivism is the world without God. In the things of the world hate the things of God and it is on the march until the second coming. And I. Just I just would caution people everyone. To not put your faith in your hope and your trust in men, and in particularly on the democratic side these days with racial injustice and intolerance and hostility. Do you really believe the government that brought you? Jim Crow is the government that's going to solve this problem. Do you really believe the government that put your kids in failing? Public Schools won't let you get him out of there. Is the government going to solve this problem? Don't put your hope and trust in government in men. It always ends. Ends badly for you still I got I distracted myself. With the Bevan trump comparison early was really wanted to talk about anti bizarre. The governor there the Republicans in the state decided they were tired of Bevan. They worked with the Democrats. They throw him out. A now has come out yesterday. He said he's going to start. A new program in the state were every black citizen in the state of Kentucky with certain parameters is going to be able to get free healthcare paid for by the state. And the national media just went Gaga over. Divas Shari's such a good guy. I can't believe he's GonNa. Do this this. This will improve the and then store like wait a second How can he do this? This is racial discrimination. How how can he do this? He can't now now. Certainly, there are parameters. By which he can, but he can't just make it about black citizens in Kentucky's got gotTa make it about citizens regardless of race. Otherwise, it's discrimination. You See, this is this is one of the the the issues I suspect. We're going to have some level of frustration here coming up because a lot of the things that people will say our systemic racism. You will find you run into legal challenges when you try to them, because it looks like you're giving preferential treatment now to black citizens. and. They're going to be very careful about the way they do that and and man He's probably a one term governor in the and he. She's going going for broke as a result I, don't blame him for doing it. But he's got a legislature that has a veto proof. Republican majority is going to be very careful how it gets this done. But it's fascinating to watch the media. Cheer stuff on like this and then all of a sudden. Hey, wait a second. Can he actually do that now? No, my friend. She can't up before I get out of here today I. Want To. I wouldn't point something out. Have you noticed Whatever happened to all the blood on Brian Kim's hands? We haven't actually seen a spike. In cases in Georgia, we've actually continued to see downward trajectory and Georgia. There was a little bit of a bounce up in the seventy average, but not really an. It's headed back down again. pretty decisively so as the virus continues to get out of the state of Georgia even the. Model. For Georgia continues to show in fact, if you text the word data, two, three, three, seven, seven seven. You can see all the stuff yourself. You don't have to see me doing it. the state of Georgia continues to show that we are on a downward trajectory in the state of Georgia. It continues to show well we'll say. The HIV modeling has revised up all of a sudden a now suggesting, we're GONNA. Have like three thousand forty six cases in the state of Georgia, on July, first, instead of they were almost like down one hundred, and then two, thousand, three, hundred, thirty, two in August, but that's not really Brian Kim's issue, is it? It's it's the protesters got out there. In the protesters started for the virus, but is that really the case? Because what we're seeing is when you take the models, and you take the seventy rolling averages. You can take the adjustments you start to see these collapses. There are only seven states in the nation that are seen major rises in cases in fact, even Georgia remember it's the the rate of transmission. If it's above one, you start to see a spread, and if it's below one, you start to see a decline in Georgia spiked for a couple of days because of the data. And now it's back below one again. It was it was above one for maybe a week. Dowse back below one. And the rolling average shows the virus is starting to fade away in notice. We're not hearing after all of that. Screaming about the blood on Brian Kim's hands were. We're not hearing that anymore. Things are actually going okay in the state of Georgia. It is. Incredible. That the people who said he he was gonNA kill all sorts of people are now refusing to apologize. It's actually I. It's incredible. That what we are seeing as a media in this country running so far to the left now part of the resistance that they don't even want to own up to the fact when they got things wrong. There are reporters today, so there's a crazy tweet from the president today. And it's about a conspiracy theory about the seventy five year old activist who was shoved by the police that maybe the man actually had a blood packet, and he fell over himself, and and and it was all staged. It's just it's crazy. Reporters have printed this out to ask Republican senators what they think about it. When is the last time they printed out statements from the Democrats asking Democrats. Do you really want to defend the police? Do you support this tweet? What do you think about this? They never do that to the Democrats. They just discredit themselves on all this sort of stuff, and they don't even I think they know and they don't care at. This point is what's going on here.

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#EERS S10 Ep5: Moving On

The Erick Erickson Show

2:02:06 hr | 9 months ago

#EERS S10 Ep5: Moving On

"Hello and welcome. It is eric erickson here. The erc your sensual across the state of georgia. I hope you're ready for the weekend. It feels like we've been in this week for about three months. I did yesterday. I try to get a refund on twenty twenty one cancel my subscription and just stay with twenty twenty and i finally found the customer service number. They transferred me to the cable company. I've sat on. Hold for twenty four hours. They spend telling me for the whole time. There are three people ahead of me. And i can't get out of two thousand twenty one yet. I'm trying i m trying friends. This week has been heavy. It has been a week unlike Well very few it is. It's a it's a crazy. Oh there we go. There's breaking news headline as we come on. Dominion voter. systems has is suing sydney powell for one point. Three billion with a b. Dollars billion with a b Let's do the happy dance. Happy dance engaged. I'm going to tweet I can't wait for dominion voter systems to sue a. n. out of existence. And they're going to. They're prepping the lawsuit right now. That is going companies. Go bankrupt in discovery is going to be amazing. And honestly i listen. I i hate to champion the elimination of a conservative news outlet but those people are nuts. they been lying to people they are culpable. I would say for the people who got injured or killed showing up in washington to riot the other day By spreading lies. But i wanna. I wanna leave that for a moment i have. I have been told in the last twenty four hours that i have been to critical in in not very sympathetic of the people who live embraced cunanan and their world is coming down around them and i just i think i need to recalibrate now for those of you. Who don't know what cunanan is. Non is a conspiracy theory. it's actually christian narcissism. I know some people in my church who have embraced parts of cunanan. I've seen it on their facebook. Pete feeds i in fact i know a lot of people in church who have embraced cunanan and not not mitra churches in general all over the place. I in fact. I was talking to a friend of mine. Who's a pastor who said he's got people he dearly loves and they're all done with cunanan non posits that There is a deep state conspiracy. That in part has manifested itself as a global. Pedophilia ring of satanists led by globally elite. And the original manifestation of cunanan was that. I'm not making this up by the way this is actually real The original manifestation of it is that donald trump was ordained by god and that is how he got elected. Donald trump is god's chosen. He is a. He is a resurrection of cyrus. Who in isaiah isaiah prophesized that. This is why people who don't believe the bible believe isaiah was written later even though there's ample evidence it wasn't the but because isaiah named checks cyrus well before like one hundred years before cyrus is on a even even around isaiah named chick cyrus and calls him the messiah. Yes that's right. The original messiah was cyrus. Who led the. Actually you could say joshua or moses but he cyrus led the people out of exile to the promised land and that is where he was not he was not a christian. he was not a christian. He was a pagan. But yet that pay good was ordained by god chosen from history to rise up and allow the israeli. The jews back to the promised land and donald trump just like cyrus was gonna lead us to a promised land where the satana global deep state conspiracy of child pedophile was going to be wiped from the earth. There are people who believe this. The people in your church believe this. Donald trump is ordained by god. Now it's manifested forms over time that there it becomes just the deep state conspiracy and that donald trump is is fighting it and and he's god's anointed so he will be successful and bill barr becomes attorney. General trust the plan. Trust the plan. Bill barr is awesome. Bill barr appoints named jared dunham. Durham durham. he's gonna exposed the deep sea part of the plan. This is all part of the planet. That's all part of the plan. Trust the plan trust the plan and then of course bill barr. They turn on bill barr. Apparently bill barr was actually a deep state plant in cunanan. God's chosen didn't realize it. Who in mike pence pence pence was the guardian angel ordained by god to stand by donald trump and aalst the deep state better files. They got jeffrey epstein. He didn't kill himself. The deep state to keep him from talking maxwell the deep states coming for her to trust the plan. This is all going to happen. Komi was exposed. The people in the fbi were exposed. See if proof. Cunanan's real and then borrego's durham. Does nothing trust the planet. Then the election comes to what has happened. This isn't part of the plan. Donald trump was going to cruise to re-election there's going to be global revolt delete elite. They were gonna be rounded up and thrown from ella copters into the pacific ocean. Trust the plan. Trust the plan. Something what what. Well here comes sydney powell. And it's it's the crack in the crack in is coming. Oh my god. There really is a plan. And they'd got cracking. Trust the plan people trust the plan so they decide to expose the plan at the four seasons landscaping shop next to the porn store and the crematorium in philadelphia pennsylvania and when they show up at the landscaping store. They gotta put up the they got to put up stuff so you can't see the the adult toys in the window next door and they explain to you that there has been a massive theft is a fraud is a fraud of the globally deep state pedophile. 's that they stopped doing what they were doing with the kids and started doing what they were doing. The voting machines they act them with russia china and hugo others zombie. Trust the trust the plan. Trying to be sympathetic please. Well plan doesn't work folks. thanks start falling apart rudy. Giuliani keeps telling him to trust the way. They've got it all one more day. One day more. I mean he's just he's he's gone foot les miz. Trust him one day more. Just give him one more day and nothing comes about but trust the plan. Trust link you to letter of the alphabet that begins with quack quagmire. We're and if you've got a speech impediment quincy trust it. Trust that letter in the alphabet. Trust it it's got a plan. It is what number and the letter of the alphabet is that that number the corresponding to prove it's real. It's coming it's coming well. It doesn't in suddenly republicans going wobbly because they're part of the deep state. Two people really believe this stuff but there's a crack in the crack we're gonna rally. We're going to charge washington dc. Here we go folks. We're going to washington there's rally in the president is coming and it's proof proof the president really is like he's a may not be cute but it could be like p i don't know he's he's close to it. He is in the president is there. You got the proud boys there. You got the white nationalist there. You've got the malcontents there. You had some realtor from texas. Who literally took a private plane to watch in dc claiming. She was part of the working class revolution. And we're going to revolt. We're going to storm the capital and you arrive you arrive at the capital. Donald trump is there as you march. Lose your leader psalm. Eighty it in a bison helmet who looks like. He's the love child of cletus underage gerbil. He's gonna he's gonna lead you to the united states. Capitol you spent four or five years devoted to the idea. That cunanan was a thing. Just you wait. It's just that's what they're saying today by the way q. On i mean you've got people there enraged there on the these these social media sites parlor and gavin the like what happened what happened we got up and there's like this this inbred gerbil looking dude and a bison helmet. I'm sorry. did you really think it was real. I mean i know people who have really thought it was real trump's just trust the you don't understand you don't understand trust the plan. In fact a buddy of mine is texting me right now hang on whereas it whole thing was an up wins. D- was wasn't bad. Because of any trump supporters the whole thing was an op. Those who were there. Peaceably won't remain peaceful forever. And then he quotes a point in the beginning. It was not part of their blood. It came to them very late with longer. Ears to make good when the english began to eight. Oh lord people have spit. People have spent years dedicated to the idea that there really was a global satanic pedophile ring led by the american deep state. Cia and fbi. Donald trump literally was anointed by god handpicked by the creator of all things to destroy it. And he's being run out of washington. Dc by the deep state. How how is it that the state tannock deep state has beaten. god's chosen how is that possible it kid there. There must be more to the plan. Maybe they got something wrong. They gotta throw the chicken wings and in in the in the balkan and look around more and read the bone. Some more Y'all listen i'm sorry if you've spent this long and you're only just now realizing the that cunanan is is s. I mean i will love you as a neighbor. Because i am commanded by the actual god of all creation to love you as a neighbor and i will. I will try promised but really. You've thought this was real. I mean i know people who i know there are people listening right now and i apologize to all the radio stations airing this program right now. 'cause i know you're going to get angry. Phone calls from people but these people believe they letter of the alphabet. There are people. I know who dr around making with the little q sticker on the back of their cars. Looks like the american flag in his letter to those are the conspiracy theorist who believe this stuff for four years and their leaders show up yesterday and one of them is with a red white blue face and a bison helmet he was dressed like mohawk. It turns out. Satan wasn't tragic killing on okay. I'm sorry i've i've i'm trying. I just can't be if you didn't realize it was all a scam. When rudy giuliani showed up at the four seasons landscaping store next to the born shop and the green majoria. And it's only taking you now to realize that after you took a day off work to go to washington to storm the capital and you were met by that now their toes no that really that couldn't be q. 'cause that's too crazy. I'm sorry i'm sorry. I realize there's a sucker born every minute. I didn't realize there were that many of them. I'll try to be sympathetic. I'm getting hate. I i am look i apologize i i just i really. I've i've watched people for gosh. How how many years have i have. I seem people people. I know people. I consider french. People have got mad at me for not believing it for for for poking fun at it for senate wasn't true and they're like what what about crossfire hurricane. I mean y'all it's Sorry just listen. There is a globally leaked there. Undoubtedly is a group of rich people who pass around and engage in human trafficking of children. Their absolutely look jeffrey epstein. Yes but the idea that this is also woven together. Dang all the lines or connecting. We've got the strings on on the just soil. green is people. Time i just. I'm sorry i'm just. I can't believe it. I can't believe that people believe that stuff. But why do people believe the stuff you know. One reason that people believe this is because they processed the world really has to be more complex than it seems. There's got to be there are things they don't understand. It's very much like you know why they're so. Many greek gods. There are so many greek gods that they exist because the greeks were trying to understand the way the world worked and so for example. Percents demeanor was the goddess of the harvest. She was ussa. Sister was her daughter and zeus essentially wedge her off to hades to keep him down in hell and she's miserable and so the agreement is that she will descend in the fall to hell to haiti's and stay within their and in the springtime she will return to her mother and her mother being the goddess of the harvest. This is why the harvest is the springtime everything blooms in the fall. Everything begins to die. Because demeter is sad that our daughter's going back to hell and so things begin to wither and fall and die and then there's rebirth of the spring because this is how this is how the how the greeks explained that nowadays we would say it was. It was part of john or someone sprays a. It's it's the what is it the the the contrails. It's the contrails from the airplanes. They caused the grass to wither in the flower to fade but the word remains wherever people i mean. People are trying to explain a complicated world. And they don't understand and so they weaved together. These elaborate conspiracies. But then there's something else that goes on as well. People fail at life. Some people just sock. Let's just acknowledge that we all know someone who we would say. That is that that person has made terrible life decisions and just can't stop making bad decisions and do you know what almost all the people have. You know those people. I don't mean to be heartless or crew here but you know those people you they may be in your family. They continually screw up and they blame everybody else. They can knowledge their own fault and they concoct elaborate conspiracy theories to blame everybody else. You know it. And i knew it. And they come up with conspiracy theories and these people gravitate towards things like cue that there really is this deep state and that's why i suck at life. It's not me and my decisions. It's this grand couple of the global elite and now suddenly their world is around because they became emotionally invested in a letter of the alphabet. Telling them that. Just trust the plan. Donald trump's gonna stay another four years. He's god's anointed. After all i mean the number of people who emailed me in the last two months to tell me that god's in charge and that means donald trump will stay president as an aside. There is a total failure of churches right now. One of the most horrifying things is for me to go on twitter and see the number of people who are actually pastors in pulpits. Who are spreading the stuff. There is a failure in the american evangelical church right now to actually do real deep theology and actually teach people. It's one of my frustrations with a lot of evangelical churches. These days that are pastor lead instead of doctrine lead. Their church exists because of the prominence of their pastor who is now who essentially gets captured by his audience. You can't say they the piss off the revenue stream. I mean he's got a he's got his his five branches of his church where he is live livestreamed in. He's beamed in via satellite to five other churches. Because god forbid you should hand it over to another responsible pastor to shepherd the flock. Why not when you can do it via satellite and so he can't say anything in the get deepen doctrine you people doctrine we gotta we gotta grow the revenue with the bill. We're looking at building a second mega-complex with roller coaster. Five blocks from our current campus to sustain the capacity. I can't say anything controversial right now. Actually you know the churches that are doing. The best are the ones that are getting into doctrine. but once they're getting deep. But you've got robert jeffreys out in texas who just i mean we're all in with the president got folks here in georgia who've become just completely politicized for the pulpit. God doesn't care about your politics in. These pastors is a complete failure of deep theology. churches. I mean can can anyone tell me what the doctrine of vocation is. Can anyone tell me about any of the major church. Doctrines not feel good nonsense. Pablo from from the pulpit. To tell you what you believe is true and never call you to repeat it or tell you that there is a god any love you but you know. This stuff really doesn't matter as much as that. It's just a failure from pulpits to that people believe the letter of the alphabet instead of actually believing the truth. Hello there it is. You're a cure erickson here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. You need to know who. Roy ball is There was a I guess yesterday and the protests on win it wasn't now wednesday in the protests there was a scene of of this Bearded redheaded guy. Roy ball had his arms wrapped around a black woman who was clearly in pain pulling her up and it was a bunch of people decided to go after him to demand he be fired. He worked for toyota. I'm not sure whether they fired him or not. Yup here here comes This is a story. Los angeles police department thursday. So this is okay so this happened during one of the protests in la or looking into physical altercations berlin knee. Bow of black woman Tact wednesday by trump supporters in downtown los angeles credits the man in the red beard for saving her life. His name is roy ball. He's a hero and people saw the picture immediately concluded he was her attacker and and the social media mob came for the guy who turns out. He was saving the woman from the crowd. It you know. I gotta tell you so. I was really tempted the other day i'm going to i'm going to tell on myself. I was really tempted the other day to video a scene where i was in a location where when i went in there were a crowd of people way more than we're supposed to be in the business during a pandemic and no one was social distance And no one had on a mask and not a single employee of the business had on a mask including the owner. Nobody had on masks and the place was packed. I was the only person in the place who had on a mask and i was really tempted to take a picture video i. I was just horrified at the scene. And then i thought you know what i have a choice to be an internet karen or i can just go elsewhere. I don't have to be here. But why do i need to shame. People who are living their lives and they choose to live differently than me. And i'm particularly more and more mindful of stuff and so i just laughed. I'm more more mindful of the stuff of the people using the internet to destroy other people to send the mob after someone and how often you don't actually understand the full story. And here's the story now of los angeles at a protest in los angeles. A black woman was attacked at a trump rally. There is a picture that is released of a red bearded man. i mean. Get her in a bear hug and pulling her up and it turns out. He's the hero. Who was rescuing her. But the internet mob came for the guy and he lost his job in less than twenty four hours. The mob was able to find out who this guy is and getting fired and now we know from the los angeles police and the woman herself. This guy was the hero. And i just think that we're we're at a point where internet shamming is becoming a trend that needs to stop and needs to be discouraged in. It's very much like that new york times story. I talked about the other day where the new york times essentially makes a kid a hero Three years prior a girl utters the word she and all her friends at school. They listened to rap music. It is all over rap music and yet the the intellectual elite of the country. Tell us that that only black people are allowed to use the word no. I don't think anybody should use the word but it has become common in songs. Young white kids have embraced rap music so they utter that word in the songs and this girl utters the word record yourself. Video at circulates around the school everybody else's use the word to a and three years later. That this this this boy who's upset that people use the word decided to ruin this girl's life. He held onto the video. He got the video two and a half years later held onto it for six months to a year and then used it to get her rejected from the college of choice. And he's proud and the new york times is proud of him and win. The new york times elevates a kid and makes him powerful not because he chose to show grace but because he chose to destroy someone. You're going to see more people. Destroy people crisis said. Turn the other cheek and now if you do that. You're a wimp. Christ lost gracefully. And now we're told sore losers or whips or gracious losers are whips that gracious loser one ultimately by graciously losing. And you've got the secular world now making heroes of the people who really are villains making heroes of the people who engage in cancel culture. This well it's not really cancel culture. This person deserved it. i. I've long maintained that each side must police itself and not always do they do it well and right now you've got the leftist decided they can pick and choose both sides. Who who are the acceptable voices on both sides and for example. Josh hawley has had his book cancelled by shaima and schuster and this is a campus culture to private business for its amendment doesn't apply but you should be bothered that a politician can do something in washington. Dc he's elected by a bunch of people in a major america overseas as well. We're not going to work with him. It is absolutely there is totally their right to do that. But the fact that they're being cheered for doing that. When you know damn well that they would be condemned if they did it to someone on the left. There's it is a disproportionate power on the left to shape secular culture and when the new york times a hero is is a kid who destroyed a girl's life because three years before she said the n word along with everybody else in her school doesn't mean she should have but three years later when you're a teenager you're not the same person your senior year that you were your your freshman year. Kids grow up they mature and that kid showed no grace and that is the problem with our society right. Now across the board. On a bipartisan basis. No one shows anyone grace. When did you just hear your cunanan. My dog yeah absolutely did there are times we should poke fun of idiots there absolutely are but when we have the power to ruin someone's life perhaps we should spend more time saying wait grace do unto others as you would have them do. What are you what happened to people. And the embrace of the golden rule. All of these things that this is this is. It's nuts and we're seeing this more and more and it is a bad thing that We should discourage. Even the media from advocating cancel culture of course denies. There's cancel culture. Everyone who gets canceled is justified. It's ridiculous But that's where we are. You got to be mindful of it but you know what also life's not fair mean. There are a lot of people out there in grievance culture right now on the right who say well. We'll they don't do this to this. You're absolutely right. They know do it to the other side. But life's not fair. life has never been fair. life is never going to be fair. And i just i don't. I'm not gonna act like a victim. And i don't think you should too in part of the problem with the right right now with behavior. The illiberal right The post christian right the post post modern right is it has embraced the victim of taliban that it often ridiculed the left off. You know the right actually did a really good job of winning elections when it was happy and optimistic and rejected been a victim and ever since it's decided to be victim You can't really do great with winning elections now to the phones. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm going to go to frank frank. Welcome hey hello how are you. I'm doing just fine. I i gotta do you hear me out yup so we are equating. What happened yesterday to what happened with black lives matter. We blamed the black lives matters for a few people doing the wrong thing but we don't lame president trump most people. Don't blame him for debate in the problem is like quite the people uh protests yesterday. Because there they didn't their vote was being taken they got didn't get the vote right there. The election was stolen. Why did the people black lives matter. protests garner shot and. Kill rodney. King be beat to death is not to be Rihanna to sleep in her bed. George floyd we saw him with four or five policemen spending around when somebody had to put on his back. That's why they that's why they did what they did. I didn't say it was right. I believe thrown. I kinda like this kind of like this to people a store and steal one person just because they can and they both get cold. One person got three kids and families feeding. They don't have the money they both were wrong. These people were were protesting because their rights spaeth out. We're taking advantage of other people protesting because someone was killed on tv. Watch l. listen now. Now frank i i gotta tell you i said this yesterday. Both sides have a right to protest. It's the little luton this bad. But i do think people in the right need to understand that in fact you know what. Hang on a second because i got my syndicated column in newspapers today and i said it way better there than i'm gonna say it right now so let me read you what. I wrote newspapers across america today. did edited whereas what about what the nation saw wednesday is shameful as someone who condemn the summer riots and criticized the media coverage. We should at least acknowledge. The summer rage came from outrage over the deaths of citizens at the hands of and the wins the outrage that led. The death was based on a bunch of lies. Very good that's awesome young and it's true. There's a double standard out there. We've got to acknowledge But i do think that both sides when you when you burn down america both sides need to be pushed back by the police. And i think there's also a double standard of the coverage frank. I'm gonna let you go there. 'cause it's my show get your own show are all right. I'm gonna say this going to save it. I may say again people. I feel confession. You know what i'm gonna say. I have to confess. I had a lady and she listens still but she was upset with me and my mom my language that she didn't think was very godly. And she's right. I do think history does kind of note that Paul was apparently known for a few choice. Words here and there i there are potty words that i think sometimes have an impact. Y'all i i gotta work on my language. I'm not that worried anywhere about saying it on radio but man y'all lately oh i thought two weeks off would be good. No you come back to this week in in the the hate mail. I've gotten but i gotta tell you I've had some choice. Words for people in the past forty eight hours now. I'm going to say what needs to be said. This summer there were riots. Buildings were burned. People were killed. People were injured. Homes were ransacked. Cars were burned and people on the right people in talk radio yesterday on across talk radio except on this program. There was a whole lot of what about him. What about the coverage. What about the coverage. What about the coverage what it. What about the coverage of the summer. What what what about that. What about that people on the right. You just hear me out here. You need to acknowledge the difference. I try to be. i am a conservative. I am a christian. But i try to be intellectually honest and you need to be honest with yourself and note that what you saw this summer. Were a bunch of people rioting because they saw video of a man with eight minutes and forty six seconds had a police officers knee on his neck and he'd died and they saw alm at arbery gun down and a local government tried to cover it up until it showed up on youtube and it led to riots and violence and what happened in washington on wednesday was because the president and his supporters too much lying to people that the election was stolen when it was it and people went to washington believing they were heroes and actually they weren't the heroes. They were the bad guys in the united states capitol. A woman died after being shot while storming the building. She died because she was duped into believing the election was stolen. An air force veterans are multiple tour. She wanted to defend our country because she believed there had been a stolen rigged election that undermined the will of the people in the democratic process and it was actually her undermining the will of the people in the democratic process and she died believing the lies that her cause was noble. The whole thing was tragic. It was unnecessary based on lies. Losers at the losers then ashamed decided to blame antifa instead recognizing their own side. The what about is shameful but in the last twenty four hours. There have been a bunch of people in the left to say you know if those were black people storming the building. They would have been shot. Look at the white privilege. You know i saw the riots this summer. The police were not gunning down. The rioters democratic politicians were defending them. Telling them to be. We needed to understand who they were. We need to understand the root cause of the rioting. We needed to send in social workers. Now i guess they should have sent in social workers instead of police on wednesday understand. Why when black lives matters burned down washington. Dc this summer. They got a road painted in their honor. Are you going to pay a road in the honor of these people. No more people got killed by police this summer. Then got killed in washington dc on wednesday. You really want me to believe that. Black people would have been gunned down at they. The some of you actually believe it. I know people who believe it. And i know people were mad at me for saying it but the facts of this summer. Belie the fact that you're wrong you're delusional and you've got a great talking point from look culture because you put your black square up on instagram. But you're still wrong. And how do i know. Because i saw the data of the summer. Not a single. Black person was gunned down by the police for burning down a building. They got a streak painted in their honor. Instead you should not. What about winston. But if you're going to go out and say well. If it was black people they would have gotten shot. Pay attention to what happened this summer. And you'll realize no. Actually they wouldn't have. They would have gotten a street painted and the media would have stood in front of the capitol as people were storming instead. It's mostly peaceful protest. Hello i ericsson. This is my show. Don't blame the local stations while the full number. If you wanna call in is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven four to five kelly. Leffler has conceded I let's see hang on limit. I wasn't going to do this in fact i didn't ask charlie to get me the Give me the video. Yes hang on a second. She has conceded. And there's a point. I need to make here. Let me let me ask you this up. Chew conspiracy every georgian and every single american who believed in me and our campaign. We accomplished so much. In a short time from delivering relief to hardworking georgians during this pandemic to funding our rule hospitals and healthcare advocating for our farmers our veterans for school choice and families for standing up for conservative american values. Unfortunately we came up slightly short in the runoff election an earlier today. I called reverend warnock to congratulate him and to wish him well and serving this great state while my heart breaks at not being able to continue to serve georgia in america. I'm tremendously proud of all. We achieved together and so much to my incredible team. The became like family to me both in my campaign and my official office. It's been an honor to serve together. And i know we will always honor the memory of our amazing teammate harrison deal and jeff thank you for the sacrifices made out of love for me and our country to my parents my family and my friends my deepest love and gratitude rest assured the fight to advance. The american dream is far from over the fight to protect conservative. Values is far from over and the fight against socialism in the radical agenda. The left is very far from over. I fully intend to stay in this fight for freedom for our values and for the future. This great country serving as a united states. Senator has been the honor of a lifetime. I am forever grateful for your kindness. Your hard work your support and friendship. God bless you. God bless georgia and god bless the united states of america. Can i just say it was nice to have a politician concede for once in this country. Can i can. I just say that i i don't. We don't hear that very often anymore. We don't hear people actually concede anymore in this country. They say i'd when it was stolen it was nice to have an air of normalcy back in the speeches. It was it was nice to to have a concession. I appreciate that I like kelly leffler. I wanna talk about twenty twenty two and moving forward in the country Where do we go from here. What what actually happens when we come back right here on the ericsson show. Hello and welcome at his era keurigs in here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Hey on because they never made a motion to prevent him from running for office Sorry a buddy asked me wish. Let-let's those the democrats say they're going to impeach the president now Mike pence's told them Twenty min isn't an option. so they want to impeach No republicans by the way are objecting. you should know that. That is actually interesting. None of come out and said they'll they will oppose it but none of them and the question is what happens. Actual according to the constitution by majority vote if the senate were conversative take a two thirds. Vote which i don't know that they can do but then they can disqualify the present from holding under the the words of the constitution. Any office of honor trust or profit under the united states. Any trust which means according to many And according to the the Debates in the constitution the vessels papers that they could preclude him from ever holding elected office anywhere Down to dogcatcher not just at the federal level Kind of a kind of if they did it. And you know The the Elsie hastings is in congress. He was impeached federal judge. They never actually made a motion to bar him for running for office and so he then ran for office and got elected. But i don't wanna talk about that. I don't wanna talk about that. I don't. I don't want to move on but before i do Nick in dallas has waited patiently in dallas. Georgia georgia not not not texas. We need to power. I'm good what's going on. I gotta stop you. hang on. hang on hang on. I and i'm sorry because this is the way my mind thinks i. This is why i'm fat. There's a barbecue place that has like a cult following. And i can't think of it and do you know which one i'm talking about thinking you might be thinking merle's but that is that is. I have had multiple people. Tell me i need to go there. I didn't even know. Such ablaze existed. that is exactly the one. I'm thinking of yeah. That's probably about five minutes from my house if our okay all right. I'm sorry. I just i get all these requests to. Hey you should go here there there everywhere. Everyone knows. I like to eat. That's a problem. Yeah so i'm fat too but not because of them But i was. Just i listen to joe biden speech yesterday and i just misunderstand him or did he actually rehash the conspiracy theory that the russians stole the election. Back in twenty six sixteen. Oh i don't think he explicitly said it but i. I didn't hear his speech. But i've had multiple people say he largely implied that the whole russia thing was was legit on wednesday. I seriously thought. Maybe he's going to be an adult. Even though i'm i i will. I will probably never support a democrat but but at the same time he did seem presidential that day and then i heard that yesterday and i i don't know what to think anymore. I mean i think. Mike pence is the only adult in washington you. You're very much so and you know. I gotta tell you i think. Part of the problem is and i. I need to say this in in nick. Thank you very much for the phone call. This does need to be said. Because i think it's true. Real and honest. There is a double standard in how the media covers things. The media is the gatekeeper or should be the gatekeeper to the truth. The guardian of truth. Who explains what's going on. And when the american media will stand in front of burning rubble and say it's a fiery but mostly peaceful protests and then cover. What happened on wednesday and blankley condemn everyone including the people who didn't participate but happened to be there for the the rally earlier. A lot of people do blame meeting. They go looking for alternate sources in those alternate sources often lead them into conspiracy and distrust bills. And i think you can safeguard democracy win. The press is unwilling to report with an equal standard. Win the left is praised. And the right is vilified for the same thing and i'm not just talking talking riots. I'm really talking beyond that win win. You've got cancelled culture and the left when the media says it doesn't really exist but hey let's praise the kid who cancelled the girl and got her rejected from the university of tennessee because of something. She did three years ago when she was a freshman. You got a problem when when when the the media goes after academic athletic winners in college for things they did when they were fourteen years old on twitter win they they ridicule christians pillory people of the right and praise people who left when they say you. Don't get to come on tv because you supported. Donald trump is real hard to maintain the republic. The media likes to abdicate itself from any responsibility and say no. It's them and then they pick aside and then they covered a double standard. Will you know that does help build a lot of distrust and a lot of what we're seeing here is a fallout from a media that has explicitly picked aside and so the other side is going to find alternative sources and frankly a lot of those alternative sources are crap. Their worst would be worth a crap. Vomit i don't know a. n. is a propaganda site filled with a bunch of people who every day get in front of a camera to performance leg hump for the president of the united states hoping to gain a following. They do not care about the truth. They will lie to you through the camera so long as they can get a viewing from you and they'll attract a loyal following owen is garbage site. And i hope dominion voters systems Bankrupts them into oblivion and goes through a discovery process and finds donors and investors at oem who encouraged and then they sue those people to and take all of their money. I hope dominion voter. Systems is the real instrument of god. Cunanan people To wipe some of the stuff out that is rotting the brains of conservatives but the reason conservatives went in the first place is because they knew they if they went to cnn. They're going to have cnn anchors. Disparaging them to their faces mocking them. They can't go to msnbc. They'll do the same. Ironically going to fox but then fox deer to tell them truth they no longer wanted to accept and so they abandoned fox and fox itself has played a role in this. If we're honest by telling a bunch of people What they wanted to hear as opposed to what was actually true. I don't always get it right. But i do believe that you've got to be committed to the truth and i've got correct myself on occasion when i say that are wrong. Happened yesterday but what is true. What is truth. What is right. What is real. Is that part of the reason. We are here right now. Dealing with what we are dealing with is because conservatives had to go find media outlets that would not disparage them in their world view and would take them seriously. And you've got a lot of people left saying well. They should be discouraged and they shouldn't be taken seriously because we disagree with them but they were saying that twenty years ago when every republican is always bad. An always raises a sense of what i'm talking about. Look at the the Hagiography of mitt romney right now. Mitt romney was vilified by the very same reporters right now praising him they could have had him but no he was a racist then he was a sexist. He was a massage with binders full of women. Screw him we don't want this guy nelson. He's great in. This happens with every republican. The media loved john mccain until he challenged barack obama in suddenly john. Mccain's the bad guy. The media vilified george w bush for eight years and praised the guy who threw the shoe at him and now suddenly george bush the hero because he's been the critical of donald trump every republican. And you know you. Know josh hawley. I saw reporter the other day. Say well you know what it turns. Out josh hawley. He's actually worse than trump because he's a competent authoritarian. That's right the moment. Donald trump leaves the white house. Every republican who stays in washington will be worse than donald trump in the way the media covers them. That's true and you may disagree with me but you're full of it and you haven't been paying attention. There's a complete double standard of the media and the media plays a large role in what is happening. The media plays a large. And i'm not talking about. Oh and newsmax and fox and talk radio and in conservatives. No i'm talking about cnn. i'm talking on. Msnbc i'm trying about nbc abc cbs. The new york times the washington post the la times usa today the atlanta journal constitution. The media has a hold mcclatchy. You name it. They have played a role in what happened because they chose to take a side. They chose to treat. One side is telling gospel truth and the other side as always having to be fact checked. When barack obama said you could keep your doctor. They told everybody he was telling the truth until it was proved to be alive and they had to go back to my bad. Democrats are always presumed to tell the truth. Republican always presumed to tell the lie. Democrats are always presumed to be good and noble republicans are always presumed to be bad the media is culpable for all of this stuff as everyone else but the media has zero so he just covering it. No you're not covering it. You're telling the narrative you're telling narrative just like city powell and rudy giuliani. You're totally narrative. Julie leaving out key facts. That might put things in a different light. There are really good. Reporters out there who really do just want to get to the truth but there are way too many of them who are liberal who have a liberal worldview who shape every story towards that liberal worldview and are perfectly willing to to disparage or ridicule or put in the worst possible light. Anyone who doesn't align with that view and yes and yes. They have culpability for all of this as well and they will not do one bit of self reflection on this and they'll be mad at me for pointed out. hello there it is erik erickson. I'm just real quick. This is important Let's see now. No no no no okay In the athens area high. Wgn how're you one day. I'm going to get the vaccine and be able to come grab a beer. I've had so many people in athens texas and say hey. Are you coming to grab a beer. I i want to. I want to just can't right now. But if you're in the athens syria it's leading It's actually in the bethlehem the winder area You got actual frozen precipitation now. Most of the whole state right now is seeing drizzly. rain out of out a middle georgia South george has got a little bit But north georgia. It's almost all rain. until you get up at the Just the or the dillard area you've got a wintry mix upon you. I need to go back to so i just at random aside I went up last summer to Lake burton i was able to stay in one of the villas villa. Whatever at the waterfalls and that place was so nice and they had a steam shower. You know it's one of those showers reunions but it was also like a car wash and i want this one day. I'll know i've made it. Because i have a niche at subscription and i have a shower that it's like riding through a car wash. I wanna walk through a car. Wash one day. I just think that would be the greatest shower ever I i want like like two thousand warheads. All with like the pressure of a fire hose. And i was in this this this villa care about this but i do this thing. It had chew that pointed to out of the side to that came down to hit your shoulders. One above you to get your head and then had a hand held of the back. it was glorious. I want that i want that. If if it had the rollers of the blowers to like a car wash so much better but it also had a button and he could turn into a steam room. It was fantastic. And i've been wanting to go back to that place so much but we have a golden doodle and. I don't think that the owners would would let us bring our golden doodle. Even though she's housebroken it doesn't shed and i just had a giant front porch with a fireplace. It was warm. I settle there. It's book cigars and drink. Bourbon by myself was so relaxed. Go back i. I wanna place like that one day one day one day but in yvette I also want one like that because it snowed up there last night and my kids wanna go see snow and it had snowed in making it. I don't know that we're going to get snow any time this year. But i feel compelled to look at the radar right now while i'm still just a georgia radio show host and we haven't strip on the border because There is actual precipitation in north georgia. You need to know about enlarge you need to know about it because we are. You've got snow up there now. Some of the snow along the north shore's lines of the precipitation. It's misting more than anything. atlanta has changed the clear air mode which means they really don't expect major precipitation but it is very misty up in north georgia in parts of it and there is some wintry mix out there That has been falling. It's starting to fade away now. Just so you know but you can pick it up on the radar so It also times what happens is it comes down and it's starting to You hit the ground. But last night they got snow up there. And i just want to go hang out by a fireplace and and have a good cigar. And you know. I don't really. I'm not really into cigars as much as my buddy phillip works for me. But i gotta tell you this one so i put up a picture. I was smoking a cigar with with philip. Who worked for me. Who he's younger than me. In in the just man his cigar habit gracious But anyway so. I put up a picture on instagram. And this brand actually reaches out to me i. It's it's a well known brand reaches out to me and asked if i would like a box of their cigarette and it's like a it is a six hundred dollar box of cigars you're thinking i'm bragging but there's a punchline here unlike heck yeah if you're going to send me a box of cigars that expensive yes yes i would. I will gladly take it off your hands so they did and i got it and it was glorious and then they asked me for my tax. Id numbers and i have to pay taxes on it. I thought it was a gift. No it was no gift. I gotta pay taxes. I mean it's still way cheaper than the boxes garth but nonetheless and I anyway we should move on. Should we none of you care about that. Betsy devos has left the white house. She is the secretary of education. She stayed the whole time. She was very good secretary of education. Elaine chao has also left part of me wonders if they're leaving so that they can't be pressured on the twenty fifth amendment the democrats in congress. Say that they are going to impeach the president again. James clyburn says that The president will always likes to be unique and break records and he can break record as being the first president impeach- twice in four years They're going to do it. I don't know that the senate republicans will pass it here. There's a problem for this at republican. What do you do with trump. what do you do with him. Because he's a one term president which means he can serve another term. He can come back and try to vindicate himself and running in four years. I don't know that he will. I was talking to a reporter. Say the president you know. He said he's gonna come down and he's going to campaign against brian guilt he would have to cover the cost of his rally. He won't have a campaign account. I mean maybe he will if he's going to run for president but he's gotta pay for all the bookkeeping us of there but who pays for flight because he's not gonna fly delta. Who pays for the the stadium venue. Who pays for all of that stuff and really really be interested enough to do it in two years in a year and a half. We'll really really do it. I mean it. Does he really want to come through georgia campaign with whoever runs against kemp. I dunno vernon jones. Doug collins. i don't think doug would do it Who who does he really want to go to to to Backwater barbecue joints glad-handing in small crowds. Or is he going to pay for his massive rallies. Will he do that. I don't i don't know that he'll want to and what happens with kelly leffler What what is kelly leffler do. She's a near-billionaire does she does. She runs herself My guess is we haven't heard the last of her. And i think that's a good thing i do want to talk about that when we come back because i don't think we really ever saw the real kelly And i would like to see the real kelly leifer. I would like to to see who she is. You know she is conservative. She is pro-life. I don't think she is an affiliated with with with trump supporters as she had to claim to beat a to get to the right of doug collins that was very successful but probably cost to the general election. Although i don't know that the republicans could have won given how few republicans were willing to show up. They all believe the election was stolen so they didn't vote for where does where does all this go. We i've got actual. I got real thoughts on this i. I've i've wanted to take your phone calls as well. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five and i've spent time with callers and redirected the show based on colors date is friday. I'll let you guide the show. But i got some thoughts on all of this in two thousand twenty two when we come back that we should explore. Hello there it is. You're your accent here across georgia. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven seven three seven four to five. I wanna talk about twenty twenty two. Actually i want to talk about a lot in it all plays together. Bear with me. If you're on the phones use me all clearly. My body's rejecting oxygen will start over. Harold macmillan british prime minister. He came in after after a lot of turmoil. Conservative prime minister one of queen elizabeth's favorites. Apparently they liked to gossip herald. Mcmillan was asked by a reporter. What could throw the conservatives off their game He had a very ambitious platform. What could throw it off. And harold macmillan turn to the reporter and he said evinced dear boy events events change things not a week goes by on radio that i don't say that evinced changed things and i don't think you can speculate about twenty twenty four right now because you've got to get through twenty two and even with twenty twenty two events changed things. We are in the midst of a global pandemic with a resurgent virus an incompetent and distracted. Federal government We've got people who are divided within the republican party now between donald trump and and non donald trump. You've got a left that is divided between those who think they should be more inclusive of people who disagree with them and those who want full-bore socialism you've got donald trump who could be dead in two years at his age never know the mortality tables. He's not a paragon of perfect health. Events things you can't predict the future. You don't know what's going to happen. You can see general ideas and some people are actually pretty good at interpreting. Where we're probably gonna head. I am not one of those people. But i think that brian comes out of this looking. Pretty good i think A lot of people think. Brian is gonna have a primary challenge in two years. The president's gonna campaign against the Who's gonna pay for the president's arena. Who's gonna pay for the giant venue. The president's not gonna go to barbecue joint in south georgia. He wants to go to a big city and draw big growl because that's what donald trump does and who's gonna pay for it in two years. The campaign against brian kip. Well that guy is going to cover the cost of it really will then. How's he gonna pay money for the end campaign. Maybe they'll justified his worth it. But events changed things the number of people who recoil by what they saw on wednesday who were trump supporters. Who are skittish now. Just just a little bit more hesitant of dear god. What was this. Did he not know this what happened. Here's brian kept. Who hasn't picked a fight with the president. In fact the president condemned him for reopening the state of georgia. Sooner than he thought. Brian kept should've and held on defied. The president decided he was going to do what he needed to do. Despite criticism from the president from stacey abrams from the media remember the atlantic story georges experiment in human sacrifice. And yet he did really well. The virus didn't start searching until people ignore him went on their memorial day holidays in the started writing through atlanta. He as governor has taken a pragmatic approach that the government is not going to four shoe to wear a mask. But he's gonna fly around the state go everywhere until you should wear a mask. He's not going to shut down your business if you think it's essentially he's going to tell you if you think it's it's not the role of government to tell you your business that is your livelihood is not essential. Keep it open. But here's what you gotta do to keep. Everybody safe closed down for one month to allow hospitals to build up capacity to handle any surge that might come and then reopen the state ahead of everybody else in georgia's economic quitting is now better than everybody else and he's got a story to tell and sell and cry more lives in the in and he wasn't loyal to me and and he needs to be defeated. And i'm gonna come to feed him after. I encourage the ryan in washington. Donald trump might not sell so well in two years. Events changed things. Kelly leffler could for two years travel. The state go on a listening tour. Explain who she really is. Have people authentically connect to her over the next two years and run against warnock and win evince changed. Things were not could go around the state connect with conservatives. Explain that The the views from the black church theologically our sound different even though they mean the same thing and you know what you should have a pastor like him who can connect across races in in the senate and maybe you'll have some white republicans. Say you know what he's not that bad. I doubt that's going to happen. But events change things in four years you may have ron santa's unite republicans and say. Look i governor was pooped. Upon by the media condemn by a that wanted to give andrew cuomo pass. I actually can win. I've proven it. Run me for president and guess what he might win. People might say. Oh i'm i'm done. With trump evens change things. I don't think you can. You can predict for years from now. What's going to happen. People keep saying who who you're back at are you back haul you back in cruise or you back and cotton there. You back in haley. I'm friends with almost all of them. Holy and i've had some issues but actually like the guy. But i think the nominee is going to be someone we're not even talking about maybe christine. Oh maybe a rhonda. Santa's may be a doug ducey. Maybe brian kemp although The only time. Brian kemp has ever custody me. The only time literally. The only time. Brian kemp has ever uttered a profanity at me is i joked with him about running for president and he was having none of it. You won't see him run. But maybe it's somebody we're not thinking i think events changed things. Are i think that this is not a static situation and i will tell you that one of the things that will change or some of the laws in georgia moving forward on elections. Although the speaker of the house david ralston says he's opposed to getting rid of no excuse absentee voting and i think you should have to have accused apps vote but i i will say this and i hope someone tells the speaker. I said this. I think if the speaker can figure out a way to ensure ballot integrity by aligning voter. Id with absentee ballots. Then yeah no no. Excuse absentee balloting. I think that would be good compromise. I think there's a path forward for the republicans in georgia. I think it's way harder for the democrats in georgia than they than they think. Yes the democrats had a good night on tuesday. They picked up two seats. John soft gets six years in washington. And maybe the demographics in georgia change enough and the gop never gets a clue enough on what to do. About those demographic changes that jon ossoff becomes a senator for the next fifty years. She's young enough. He could but events changed things events. Change things we don't know what's going to happen in two years or four years. We we can guess we can hedge our bets. We can think vince. Do fundamentally changed things in dc storming the capital coming last week. Everyone was like oh thank goodness were out of twenty twenty twenty twenty one zero. Hold my beer. Look what happens seven days in six days in. We don't know what's going to come. But what i can tell you. Couple things this too will pass. We are in the middle of a political realignment in the united states of america. That's why things are so tumultuous right now every time. The united states of america has gone through political realignment. That's what happens. It is the physics of a realignment in the same way that went cold air and hot air pass through. You can get thunder lightning thunderstorms and rain. When classes of people who have been aligned certain ways begin to unaligned and move about in different ways. You get turbulence you thunder you get lightning. You get rain with a party splits apart you get a fishing explosion. We're in a great realignment in this country. And that's part of what's going on here. Black and hispanic voters are trading out of the democratic party. Very slowly as the democratic party becomes increasingly secular and white and rich working class voters. Who have long been to the democratic party or moving into a republican party with the republican party. That doesn't really understand them isn't release sure that they really are committed to the party because the party has been committed to the chamber of commerce. And why are these people coming in and trying to change things. it's very uncomfortable for the republicans right now. Some of them want to disparage and dismissed the base trump supporters. Who were there. Because they're guy actually got them and understood that a country that is growing economically and his move beyond their needs in the economy and the economic output of the nation. What did to find a way to plug them back in and give them a job. If not restore their job and a lot of republicans like what the hell democrats of course founded very dispirited and didn't realize that these people were moving to donald trump. Not because they were racist but because they just wanted work when black and hispanic voters shifted towards the republicans in november. The new york times ran stories. Try to explain it. All and their explanation was that black men were moving to donald trump because of the toxic masculinity displayed in rap music and hispanics removing to donald trump. Because they'd immigrated from countries with strong men and they really liked tyrants white people may insp blaney ethnicity the people who say latina cts without irony. If you actually asked black men and hispanics why they were moving. Donald trump was because they wanted a job. The republican party that for so long has been the party. A i the episcopal alien church at prayer and now the fortune five hundred at work is a party that has having to realize that a lot of people have moved into its party because the democrats are also competing to be the fortune five hundred at work and giving the fortune five hundred protections against the little guy. The little guy just wants to compete. The little guy wants the opportunity to become the big guy and the democrats are advancing socialist policies that ensure the little guy will be comfortable being the little guy and we'll never have a chance to compete and it's antithetical to the american experience in the american dream where people believe they can come. Here is a little guy and become the big guy. David picking off goliath and both parties have longtime than subsidizing propping up goliath and protecting him from david and here comes donald trump. Who's perfectly willing to take the sight of david and cast stone. That takes out goliath and it has been tumultuous particularly with donald. Trump was a guy who didn't particularly know what he was doing but he knew what to say to get people on his side. And you had democrats for four or five years calling racist and a bigot. And he actually had a lot of black and hispanic voters gravitate towards him and the democrats couldn't process it because they believe they're spending caricature of the guy. Both parties have missed this realignment but the realignment is happening. Evince changed things in lafayette the realignment. I think the republican party is going to have to be a little more combination of working class voters. Who actually are okay with a little more big government. As long as it's in their favor against the big guy. I think the fortune five hundred and the tech companies that have part created monopolies driven down prices to put brick and mortar stores. That a business that have caused a lot of working class people to move to. The republican party are in for rude awakening and the republican party has largely been the chamber of commerce party and the party of the fortune. Five hundred. we'll have to realize that you know we're going to have to advance some policies that make us a little squeamish that defy the intrinsic nature of what the republican party had become to become a republican party that accommodates our new base in this realignment. People say this is the end of the republican party. No it is the beginning of something new for the republican party in the same way. It is the end of the democratic party the beginning of something new for the democratic party. The democratic party is increasingly becoming the party of rich white people who do not go to church and do not believe in god and the people who are hicks and rubes things will change. I think that the church evangelical will increasingly find themselves. Shut out and i think people on the left will try to use the riots of wednesday as a way to further marginalized people who support the president. That will of course causing vince that further realign. The parties and rapidly reduced the strength of the democratic party. Is they show all sorts of hostility and very little grace to those with whom they disagree. Even s- will change things we in the midst of a realignment for which we had not seen. It came upon us very quickly. It will not pass as quickly as it came upon us and it will still the play out people who are today. Democrats may in twenty years be republicans and people who are republicans. Today may in twenty years democrats part of the reason that this realignment has come upon and can shift so much. Is this people. Change leaders come and go in. Many people have abandoned principle and idea for people in party. They have no consistency of conviction. They have the claims of a colt. And i'm not talking about donald trump. I've talked about everybody so thanks change. I can't predict two years from now. I can't predict for years from now. I think we're in the midst of a realignment that i know for sure and that will change things. Events will change things. I don't know what the future of the republican party or the democratic party looks like. But what i do know is the people say. This is the end of the republican party or the beginning of democratic donald or whatnot are full of it. God has a sense of humor. He's not going to be mocked and he will use a vince to align things the way he needs them to be because ultimately this tool pass. God's got a plan i don't know what it is. He is sovereign. He will direct the course of history and all things work for the good of those called according to his purpose on on that you can trust way more so than trusted. Any person politician plan or party. I have to say. I am disappointed yet again. In the american media. Kanye west and kim kardashian or getting a divorce and not a single media publication entitled it. The west go south. I'm i'm. I'm disappointed but then i've come to be disappointed in the media regularly the phone number here. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five randy and smyrna your next randy there. Hello can you hear my there. Yup actually. I'm in marietta. Unfortunately at least macbeth. Nice to nice to finally talk to you. i'm still kind of choking on the notion that we might have an ourself in the center for fifty years. Thanks for that. But i'm sorry. Listen i'm sorry. I i figure if nothing else. Some people did need to purge available this morning. That'll help him probably help us. But what i was gonna say. Was i kind of think that now that the press is going to feel emboldened after what they've done with trump over the past four years they're going to attack republicans for the next two years in a very similar manner than they did have the trump in the past four. Because like i said they feel emboldened. And i also think that the democrats are going to try to push biden out in two thousand and twenty three and if they do that in harris becomes president by february of twenty twenty three. That's gonna give her an opportunity to actually run for two more terms. Yeah yeah okay. I gave you jon ossoff. You just gave me that. So we're even yeah. Listen i let me let me spend a moment on the presser by joe biden has already all but said he's going to be a one term president And it's i. I take him at his word. I think he's too old for a second term and i don't i i it's it's somewhat humorous and gallows humor way to joke that Calmly harris is gonna leave roller skates on the steps. That biden doesn't see or or or do something. I mean we. We've had all this. But i you know. Here's the thing i think you're right and i i don't know that. Most people intuitively understand that in the next four years you're gonna have an american media Act like donald trump was the greatest thing since sliced bread and that every other republican is worse than him and they are. And i've said this for four years that the moment the best thing that will ever happen. Donald trump is the moment he leaves office. The media will start saying oh well this guy is way worse than donald trump And often it'll be will. He's smarter than donald trump's tweets way more dangerous and clearly going to be even more racist because he smarter and they are going to go to war with every republican. Look what they did to her doing. Currently to ron disentis who has handled the virus way. Better than almost every other democratic governor. And you would think he is rounding up floridians and forcing them to get covert and laughing at them at these as they die. When that's actually andrew cuomo doing that I it's it's insane the way they're trying to destroy interest right now in part of me really genuinely believes if i got a conspiracy theory in america right now it is that the american media is so fearful of rondo. Santa's running twenty twenty four. They are right now working to destroy him and that is organized by democrats and the media together because they want to prop up their beloved andrew cuomo and gavin newsom and the democratic field because they understand comma harris will actually be a week democratic nominee and that maybe she could be challenged by democrat and they gotta get rid of rhonda stance right now. Because he'd be a formidable republican. I actually believe that's going on. And i do think it is organized. I do think there is thought put into it. And i do think that's my conspiracy theory that i believe and i'm not ashamed to say it publicly. It's no q. Not nearly as drawn out as that. But i think that's something to it. Why hello there. It's eric erickson. And the eric erickson show across the state of georgia. The the phone number. The the phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm opposed to what aboutism about the other day. What about the riots. What about the media coverage of the right is what what about. What about what about what about what about what happened. Wednesday and now people are going to accuse me of doing that because in the last twenty four to forty eight hours a talking point has cropped up among the woke folks among the progressives they you know if these guys were black they'd have been shot and i feel the need to respond because you're wrong and i know you're wrong and i've got the data. It's not an emotional response based on historic treatment. It's the actual data of what happened the summer before i get there though. I need to say something to those of you. What about in wednesday when the riots happened this summer they happened because a man named george floyd died after a police officer put his knee on the man's neck for over eight minutes and some people justified. The police officer doing it. And this came on the heels of the video of almond arbery and a local government actual conspiracy to try to cover it up and protect the people who did it because the man and his son who killed on and aubrey. We're friends with the local prosecutor. And then there was the man. I forget his name now in the drive who is running away from the police and they shouting and while i think it was justified because he had the police officers teaser and fired the taser at the police officer. At least i would like to acknowledge that. The people who were rioting in america this summer were writing out of a deep frustration at of a sense of inequality and ill treatment. And it's not that. They wanted the protesters on wednesday. Shot like they've been shot they just don't want to be shot like the protesters weren't shot and i think you have to honestly electorally honestly acknowledge that and the people who rioted wednesday. We're rioting out of outrage over police. Brutality and videos of men with police officers knees on their neck dying. They were rioting because the president of the united states and his supporters and people talk radio. Excuse me and tv spent two months lying about a stolen election. They stormed the united states capitol thinking they were heroes defending democracy and in fact. They were the villains trying to destroy democracy. And i think you have to say that. I think you have to acknowledge it. I think you have to recognize that however much you can condemn and criticize the rioting of the summer. The writing of the summer was premised on actual people losing their lives and the outrage that followed and what happened. Wednesday people lost their lives because they stormed a building believing a bunch of lies told by the president of the united states. Sydney powell rudy giuliani. Various voices on talk radio. Some of whom are friends of mine. Frankly various newscasts on various news. Networks people on the internet and syndicated columnist voices on social media. They've lied for two months about a stolen election. And i get hate mail on a daily basis for telling you it wasn't stolen and some of you believe it by faith or episode. You believe the election was stolen and you will. You will not be persuaded otherwise. And you're just asking questions just like the serpent in the garden. You're just asking questions that needs to be said but this needs to be said to for those of you who believe that if these were black protesters storming in the united states capitol. They would have been shot. I recall this summer. Cnn standing in front of fiery rebels saying it was a mostly peaceful protest and they were condemning the protest. Yesterday i recall local politicians telling the police not the fire on the protesters. And you know what. I also recall not a single rioter burning down kenosha. Wisconsin was gunned down by the police not a single rioter who burned down washington. Dc was killed by the police. There may have been bean bags and rubber bullets fired in there weren't will at the capitol and you know why because there weren't enough police spare me your the black people would have been shot because it's flat out not true and i some of you fully believe it in the same way that people believe. The election was stolen but they are wrong. And you're wrong. And i've got the data to back it up and you don't. You have an emotional response of months of localism and black squares on instagram. To make yourself feel good about yourself in the reality is that if black people had stormed the capital yesterday the same damn thing would happen because it would have been undermanned by a bunch of police officers but this summer after washington burned. The mayor of washington painted a whole street in front of the white house. In honor of black lives matter. Where's the street going to be painted in honor of the protesters wednesday at least try to be intellectually honest. And i know it's an emotional issue for a lot of people and i think conservatives need to recognize that the riots of the summer happened because people were outraged over legitimate things to be outraged about and some tried to dispute the legitimacy of that outrage say. We'll george floyd got what he deserved. No human being on planet earth deserves to have a police officer plant their knee on his neck for eight minutes. Forty six seconds. No person running in his neighborhood or through someone else's neighborhood deserves to be blocked in by two white guys in shot to death but no business owner deserves to have his business burned down because people are pissed off about it. No home deserves to be vandalized because people are mad about it. No car deserves to be burned because of what happened in no united states capitol deserves to be ransacked because people believe two months worth of lies about the election. You need to acknowledge the differences. But let's really be real. And i realize you really proud of yourself for your talking point that if they were black they would have been shot on wednesday. No they'd have a street painted in their honor in cnn would be talking about it as a mostly peaceful protest. Because that's what happened the summer. You had allie bell she of msnbc condemning the protests on wednesday the summer excusing the protests. There is a double standard and how the media covers the stuff. I think we have to acknowledge that. Part of the double standard comes from the impetus for the riots. But i also think we do need to understand that for four years. The president's supporters have been portrayed by the media as hicks groups and racists win seventy nine million people whatever it was voted for the president and all of them have been blatantly condemned. You've got people on the left tuesday. None of these people should ever be allowed in polite society again including the newly elected senator from georgia. Who says these people need to be driven from society. Why because they supported a candidate people on the left. Don't like i don't particularly care for the guy either. But a lot of his supporters voted for him because no one else in america understood their concerns to their concerns. Word about racism. They're concerned about jobs and communities falling apart and no one paying attention to him. Believe it or not white people in appalachia have it worse than a lot of people who are minorities and live in cities. But we're not allowed to talk about that because they're white and those white people have privilege in appalachia where their communities are falling apart. We're not allowed to talk about that that we can equate that stuff. Oh no there are is way more in common with the poor in this country across races. The most of the media would have you believe. But we're not allowed to talk about that because there's historic outrage and racism in this country and those white people. They're they're not the oh you don't want to believe that white people in appalachia discriminated against watch the news and that's what a lot of this is is. People are outraged at the media and their double standards in their treatment in the left in their double standards but to smugly say that one group of people would have been treated differently from another group of people when the entire fricken nation watch that group of people excused praised we were told they needed social workers and we needed to understand them. We needed to understand their outrage. Why don't you try to understand the people's outrage yesterday. You know isn't all that outrage. Just premised on two months of lies. It's also on the disparate treatment of the media and the democrats and culture at large with them. It's the fortune five hundred companies. Who will lead someone on the left. Say all sorts of disparaging awful things and get away with it and someone says something on the right. That offends them what we gotta delete their account. We gotta delete them from society. It is possible to hold all of these things in your head and rationalize and reason them and make them logically flow together because they actually do have a lot in common and also realized that no one should have stormed the united states capitol wednesday. And we don't really need to. What about it compared to the riots. This summer where people rioted because they saw videos of innocent people being killed or what. They presumed to be innocent people. At least george. Floyd was not a nice guy and he had serious issues but he did not deserve to have a knee on his neck for as long as it was an omen. Arbery was no saint. but there's no dispute. He was just jogging even the man. They say he was looking at the guy's houses. No he wasn't. We don't need to revise history to try to justify what happened and that's what some people have done by the way just as some people are justifying what happened the very same people were trying to justify what happened today. Have tried to justify the deaths. Zometa arbery george. Floyd a you know this summer. I said on radio. And i said on the internet that the police should be able to shoot the people who are trying to burn down these buildings and storm federal buildings. You should be able to stop them. And if billy clubs don't work and firehoses don't work and tear gas work you go to the next level and a lot of people who are condemning me for saying the same thing on wednesday as people were storming the united states capitol. We're perfectly fine with me saying when they thought it was black people riding the summer. Why is that and then suddenly yesterday. There's no really wasn't us. It was antifa will really. Why is it that so many of the people who were being arrested today. Our longtime well-known trump supporters. Some of whom aren't even registered to vote by the way i think you've got to be intellectually honest and consistent and if it applies one way it applies the other and i can tell those of you who think that if they were black they would have been shot on wednesday that that is simply not true because i saw with my own eyes. What was happening this summer. I saw the way that democratic politicians were urging people to get in the streets. I knowing what would happen when they did. I saw democratic politicians saying people should show up at restaurants and chase republican politicians out of it and show up at their homes and harass them and guess what when they did the democrats didn't condemn it. Dangerous went oddly. Silent in the media never called the modern at all. I saw it with my own eyes. I saw the washington mayor. Say we needed to understand the rioters and she painted a st for black. Lives matters down by the white house after washington burned. I saw it with my own eyes. Don't tell me they would have been treated differently. The police were outmatched. But also i saw cnn this summer. Say that those riots in burning cities were mostly peaceful and they blatantly condemned every single trump supporter on wednesday. Not just the ones who stormed the capital. The ones who just showed up for the protest because they believe the lie but they didn't participate in the violence. They were condemned as well. But i need to come full circle here and say something. Because i can and i realized be accused of what about eating it and i don't think we should and i would not go there and i would not say it and i would not defend it and i would not even try it except for the last twenty four hours. A bunch of smug progressives have been patting ourselves on the back with their clever talking point that if these were black people have been shot. This is just proof of white privilege white privilege all right to show up. Give up your day job not lose it. Go to washington storm the capital and also it's white privilege to go storm the capital and sit in to try to obstruct brett cavenaugh from being confirmed. It's a bunch of white liberals in one in white conservatives in the other doing it they get a day off work to be able to do that but it's also nonsense to say that they'd have been shot if they were black because they wouldn't have been and if you're gonna raise the talking point than i am going to point out the coverage of the summer but i don't think i should have to and i think conservatives who immediately went there were wrong too and i think it's no excuse for what happened. Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because one side behaved in a certain way does not mean the other side should get a pass on behaving that way. No they should all of them be rounded up thrown in jail but only one side is actively being hunted by the fbi to be thrown in jail but also the people who did that wednesday storm the united states capitol while congress was in session in an act of insurrection in sedition because they believed a bunch of lies peddled by politicians on the right and people on tv. Hi there it's your erickson. The full number. That felt good to get off my chest by the way. The phone number is eight. seven seven. Nine seven eric. Your i c k. I you know listen. This is a hard for people. I realized because it is e. r. I c. k. And the number of times in fact. I laugh now because actually turned and looked at my email. As i'm talking. I see someone who's quest questioning me they. I missing a number. Just e. r. I c. k. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Which reminds me. I have a new email address. I i need to tell you about If you would like to email me. Eric e. r. i c. k. At e w erickson dot com All of this is to say all of this is to say folks. I'm sorry it's eight. Seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I'm getting hate mail for both directions now over that last monologue Aright alright alright. We need to move on other things we actually do. There is other stuff I i just can't can i. We're gonna short segment here. So i feel like. I needed to a public duty. I wanna do public duty. I watched wonder woman nineteen eighty-four. It came out christmas day. You don't have to watch it. It is a trash movie. I mean it's bad. It is a bad movie. And i can see have you so. I saw the other day So what is it. Soul- the disney pixar movie. That is a movie. You should see on disney plus. It is the first movie. I have seen released on streaming services that is actually worth watching. Moulin needed an editor. Greyhound needed an editor wonder woman nineteen eighty-four needed a new everything except the the cast. The cast was was wonderful and horribly used. So patty jenkins. Who is the director of this movie complained. You know the end of wonder woman nineteen eighty-four or into wonder woman saw this great. Cgi battle between wonder woman and the bad guy and it was kinda bad because the bad guy was the was the weasley guy the whole time and you would think that areas the god of war. He would suddenly be revealed to be like this. This awesome light like bulking. Steroid it up do no. They still used weasley guy. Who can they go. She's got bigger muscles than him without. Cgi so there's time they had the cgi. The patty jacobs loved it. She wanted to know that. If you didn't like the wonder woman by god you are gonna love the indian of nineteen eighty-four clearly the they needed to restrain her. Do you know how. I'm not giving you away spoiler the movie so bad. You're not gonna watch it anyway. Do you know how wonder woman. Nineteen eighty-four ends literally. Wonder woman who now can fly by last sewing lightning bolts and has her invisible jet in this one the way wonder woman beats the bad guy is she gives a speech. I know i know now if you've watched if you've watched justice leave no one knows about wonder woman but here she is in one thousand nine hundred. Four gives a speech to the entire world. And it's just believe in reality just just embrace reality reality much better than what you wished for and reality is awesome and the whole thing is just garbage only a movie written by a woman directed by a woman would have the same would have the superhero win the battle not by fighting but by talking people the death bad i mean and the the cast was just wasted. It was just pathetic aright. We'll be back in a minute. We'll move on to other stuff. And i'll take your phone calls. Eight seven seven seven three seven four five. Hello welcome back. It's eric erickson here. All right so the the beginning of the show. Today i was talking about the the q. Folks someone has me up who. Someone has signed me up for a hugh and john website. I i'm not even going to give you the the the website name but I just man. I gotta read you. This this is d decoding. The president's announcement if you haven't heard the president's announcement the president spoke to the nation Not live he. They sit out the video of the president talking about swell the The election and the transition the peaceful transition of power and all that sort of stuff and he said that he will work on the peaceful transition to the new administration. I like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the united states capitol like all americans. I am outraged by the violence. Lawlessness and mayhem. I immediately deployed the national guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. America is and must always be a nation of law and order the demonstrators who infiltrated the capital. Have defiled the seat of american democracy to those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction you do not represent our country and to those who broke the law. You will pay. We have just been through an intense election and the emotions are high but now tempers must be cooled and calm we start. We must get on with the business of america. My campaign vigorously pursued every legal avenue to contest the election results my only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote in so doing i was fighting to defend american democracy. I continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and to ensure faith and confidence in all future elections. Now congress has certified. The results and new administration will be inaugurated on january twentieth. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth or seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation. Twenty twenty has been a challenging time for our people. A menacing pandemic has upended the lives of our citizens isolated millions in their homes damaged or economy and claimed countless lives defeating this pandemic and rebuilding. The greatest economy on earth will require all of us working together. It will require a renewed emphasis the civic values of patriotism faith charity community family we must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that binds us together as one national family to the citizens of our country serving as your president has been the honor of my lifetime and to all of my wonderful supporters. I know you are disappointed. But i also want you to know that. Our incredible journey is only just beginning. Oh boy that's that. That was the president all right so i gotta reach this. This is from a trump site. I is this concession speech. President trump is clearly set on many occasions. He will never concede so no. I don't think so. It also stands out like a sore thumb that he did not mention joe biden. What's he talked about. A transition to a new administration in quotes and. Have you seen all the people resigning today. These are the rats leaving the ship. Those are the deep state players exposing themselves. The one sticking around approving they can be trusted and that might just be pompeo and mcenany pompeo by the way participated in the twenty fifth amendment discussion. Never mind that. Outsiders like flynn. Powell would giuliani lynn. Del sure sounds like a new administration to me ill and of course. I neglected to mention that trader. Mike pence can't have him serve as vp anymore. Can we know that won't do then after all that he ends with the tweet gla sciences. Incredible journey is just beginning. Who says that's accessories to paraphrase winston. Churchill this may not be the beginning of the end but it is definitely the end of the beginning. And i love that so many of you picked up on the same thing. I did The the future vice president's going to be bison boy whose whose dead cletus had him with a underage gerbil bison boy for vice president version the he believes this. May god have mercy on our souls for being subjected to this level of idiocy Met me help us we. We are all dumber for that. My goodness gracious aright I i could ridicule these people all day but that that wouldn't be very loving of we're supposed to love our neighbor and sometimes it's hard but you've got to just my goodness i don't i don't i don't understand it. I really don't How can you go through the last few days and say actually. This is some level of conspiracy. It's not a it's not a conspiracy people It's i promise you it's not Fair and square he lost. I know many people still think that it was stolen or in. You know that that is to say that there. There are legit questions about some things that happened. I don't think it was good for judges to intervene and change election laws. The input there wasn't fraud the president's team has been asked and ask police show as the fraud and they have it. Because it's not there now. Let us go to the phones bill in athens. You're going to be next. Welcome thank you. can you hear me. I can hear you okay. I have four suggestions for both progressives and conservatives to help bring our country and christians together number one in regard to address shen politics and religious beliefs consider that people with different beliefs from yours can be good moral and devout people number two in regard to gay rights consider whether any denial of rights based on homosexuality per se is moral and christian three in regard to racial justice. Consider how you would feel if you were in quote there and quote shoes number four. Consider that it. All goes back to the golden rule four considerations for both conservatives and progressives. Okay here's problem you know there. There are deeply held religious convictions for people in the country. And there are things that People i think can't do based on their religious conviction or or causes. They can't embrace based on their religious convictions. And i think in a country of three hundred fifty million people divided between fifty states and thousands of counties and tens of thousands of municipalities Having one side imposed values on the other is wrong Including where i live at as a as a christian conservative who frankly Except by law that marriage between two people the same sex is legal that it's still not biblical But also that. I don't think i need to be imposing my values on someone in california and frankly i think that over time if you can allow me georgia to have a pro-life state That actually Requires marriage to be between and a woman. In in foster a healthy loving christian environment will breed out of existence california over time as california in an increasingly secular environment decides that it is an area of the country where by embracing secularism and wealth. Frankly they've seen total decline I think what you're advocating may sound great to someone who is left of center but to someone like me was of center. It sounds like you're telling me that. I've got to abdicate my values in favor of your values which frankly the supreme court has told me i had to do and i resent like hell that the rewards told me i have to do it. In fact i think. This country was founded on federalism. And and if you wanna take those four principles and apply them and advocate for them at the ballot box. You should be allowed to do that. But if you're defeated at the ballot box you should not be allowed to have five robed masters at the supreme court with lifetime appointments and the values of harvard yard. Tell me i've got to deal with it and do what you want me to do. Just because you think those progressive value sound good. I you know i it because and let me just disabuse all of you of this because i got a lot of people on the left to listen to me. Because they've liked. Some of what i've said lately i'm a christian conservative. I accept that traditional marriage is on the way out of this country because the supreme court has told me so when i actually have long advocated that the people should democratically be able to do it. I don't expect to impose my will and my values on the country. But i sure as hell would like a chance to compete at the ballot box and advocate for my positions but instead people on the left keep running to the black robe masters at the supreme court. Five of them. And tell me. I've got a suck it up and do whatever they want. Christians in this country are the only people left who can be told baked the cake baguette. And be put out of business if you don't want to. I'm sorry that that just sparked rage in me that i'm essentially told i've gotta compromise my values so that we can all get along. You know what would actually help us get along in this country if we could respect each others values and if you don't like living in an area that shares a common value instead of having a federal judge say no the rest of you have to give up all of your values for this person. That person could say. Hey i'm going to move to this place that respect by values that i hear soviet but what about rain. Tv rates we fought a war in this country and amended the constitution racist singularly unique in this country because of our history and our constitution but on everything else win it at the ballot box instead of run into some judge forces me to do a compromise like that but no no. You always redditch. That's why we are at this point of this country because the federal judiciary with the left knows. No bounds tells people like me that i've got to give up my values for your values and somehow decides that secularism is actually the compromise when the country says they're convenient religion. The secular religion becomes the religion because judges refused to recognize. It is religion when it's got all the value sacraments and sanctimony is a lot of religions. It is a sacrament of secularism. That you kill kids on the ultra moloch these days and you call it planned parenthood. It is a sacrament of secularism. They gotta throw your money towards causes on the left. And if you don't put that black square on instagram you're bad person virtue signaling actually your virtue signal if you put the black square on instagram. Unless you're actually going to commit to doing something in your community to improve the situation in your community. I mean the reason we are in this situation right now is because progressive secular lewis who have largely controlled culture in hollywood and a and the global elite. Yes i'm gonna use. That phrase and a lot of the republican and democratic party have decided that the values of the hickson rubes out. Jesus land is bad and they need to be educated and brought into the twenty first century against their will kicking screaming by told. Hey compromise presume that someone who wants to kill children is just as morley equal as you know. I'm sorry if you actually believe that. Killing kids is a morally good thing. No you're you're you're you're not a good person now. I'm not a good person. Either senator just like you. But i at least recognize that. Killing kids is a moral evil and it's one of the moral evils in this country that people on the left justify and they justify using the same arguments that slave owners used in the eighteen hundreds. It's really crazy to watch. woke people. Use the exact same arguments that slave owner he used in the eighteen hundreds to justify killing kids. It's my body. it's my property. Funny how that works really when you think about it abortion in this country the people who advocated for it. They use the same arguments of slaveholders before the civil war. It's the most they don't even see it and they get mad at you when you pointed out it's it's my property. I can do with it as i want it. It's not a real person. All of the arguments. well it can't survive. I mean that's what the slave owner said in the eighteen hundred will it can't survive without me so i if i want to kill it i can kill it. Why should i waste my time and resources on it. I if it's not giving me what i want. It's my control. It's hindering me. I should be able to dispose of it. It's costing me resources. I should be able to dispose of it. It's it's my property. You can't tell me what to do with my property. My body dole dole. Tell me to compromise. And and the the the people who advocate abortion or are somehow equal there. No we're all centers and we all fall short of the glory of god. But you're going to tell me. I gotta turn around because the supreme court says so and turn a blind eye people who think that the government should subsidize the killing of children. And that's what it is. We hide behind the euphemism. But you know what it actually is. It is cracking open. The school of a child sucked out of springs and then tearing it apart limb from limb and allowing planned parenthood to sell the parts and they said oh no they don't really sell the parts and prosecute the people who discovered it and pointed it out. I'm sorry that makes me mad. When i'm told i've got a treat. These things equal no for those of you who are upset in the poll. That what i just said. I'm sorry to tell you yes. I'm an evangelical conservative actually. Believe in principles ideas. I'm not beholding to a party or a person but those ideas and one of those chief ideas is that i will never ever vote for or compromise. On the issue that all life is sacred including the unborn will become bored if the government set aside and say oh no you can kill him because they're worthless life is sacred regardless of where it is and you know what you don't believe me you people who think it's perfectly okay to find a kid. What would happen if i went to mars tomorrow. Discover life on mars and stamped it out. Hey it's my choice. Oh you'd be appalled with me whitney. Yeah you should be appalled the same way when you find a child in the womb and think. Oh yeah it's gonna hinder me. So i'm just going to stamp it out. Hello there it is. Eric erickson here feel better. I hope you do so. You know the guy who people on the picture of the guy who ran away with nancy pelosi's lectern or podium. That had the seal on it. He was where that the trump gap a lot of people. People like chip gains chip gains from the the fixer uppers. Or whatever bag lot joy we found chip it turns out the man is named adam christian. Johnson he's thirty six. He is from parish. Florida he did not vote for donald trump. He actually is not party affiliated. He hasn't voted in any election. Since two thousand and two and now he's gonna go to jail for a very long time the fact that these people thought they could get away with it. And i hear some of you say we'll lose us prove it was drifts. Were no there. Were a lot of trump supporters. There you can. what about. What about the antifa guy. Well i mean what about the guy with the horns who stood in the president's cheer in the senate demanding mike pinch show himself or the people who built the gallows in the news who all of whom have been identified as trump supporters. But this guy you know and this is a every every single one of these people. I've been advocating this on social media today every single one of these people we need to find out if they've actually registered to vote because my suspicion is actually a lot of at an intellectual level they support the president but but at a practical level. They don't actually vote and have not voted and that's kind of the crazy thing. A lot of people were inspired by president trump. Don't actually vote. Or if they voted they will only vote for him if he's on the ballot. That would happen in georgia on tuesday. Raphael warnock and jon ossoff. We're going to the united states senate in large part because republicans didn't vote. Some of them weren't there to vote. They had driven to washington. Dc and. i will tell you again. I think the republican party in georgia. It's whole leadership should resign the chairman in particular for two months. The chairman of the republican party has with the president of the united states. Told everyone the election was stolen. In fact david shafer lied the other day and said that the wind brad wrath is burger released that call it was it attorney client call in to assist with the settlement and it was illegal call. That shouldn't have been released. But in fact brad rapids burgers lawyers the attorney general for the state of georgia says they had no knowledge of the call. And we're not invited to be on. The call. schaefer should resign. He spent two months undermining the integrity of the process. It inspired a lot of republicans to stay home and cost us two senate seats instead. I'd bet he's gonna try to trump the president's leg all the way into power in some elected office surely could happen. David shafer suppress the republican vote. He should resign. Donald trump's suppressed. Vote city powell and women lynnwood suppressed the vote members of the republican legislature collaborated to suppress the vote. Republican members of our legislature spread the conspiracy theories and inspired a whole lot of republicans to stay home by telling them it was stolen and brian. Kemp and brad raffles burger didn't do anything to stop the steel and it was going to be stolen again and so guess what people stayed home and cost the republicans the senate majority in both republican senate seats in georgia. You know i've got to be honest with you. Had republicans showed up literally. Had republican showed up. They would've won easily. And i was convinced they would win. Because i didn't realize there were that many stupid people. And i realized people are stupid but i really thought that you know you're not going to cut off your nose to spite your face. But they did. They didn't even try to fight. They didn't even try to test the theory. The theory was that the election november was stolen. Go tested in january and see if it actually was no they just gave up every single one of us when our taxes go up this coming year because of this should remember the republicans who didn't even bother to show up again particularly the ones who decided to hop in the car and drive to washington to participate in the protests and riots. Some of whom. I suspect were registered to vote so they couldn't of But i suspect we're going to find out a number of the people who were there and precipitated. They may have loved the president. They have been all over social media love and the president but they didn't actually register to vote and here comes one guy who walked away with nancy pelosi's podium. Was there for the rally. Hadn't voted since he registered in two thousand and two. They're going to be more of those people and by the way that's not proof. They weren't president trump supporters. It's just proof that idiots and yes. There are a lot of idiots who did that on wednesday. We don't need to make excuses for them.

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#EERS S9 Ep194: Media Coup Craziness

The Erick Erickson Show

2:02:20 hr | 11 months ago

#EERS S9 Ep194: Media Coup Craziness

"Hello and welcome. Yeah that was my face on fox news this morning. Welcome is eric erickson here. The eric erikson across the state of georgia. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five Delighted to have you with me. We are phone system is broken. I'm afraid you're not going to be able to call it. Yeah i've seen they mail. Y'all made me mad. I may joel mad. We can hug it out later. we got business to get to that we can. All agree upon the media has lost. Its ever live in mind over. The president not considered. Now lemme for those of you who are new here. Allow me to review. Here's is my position on twenty twenty. I believe there is voter fraud. I do not believe there is voter. Fraud to an extent to be able to throw out the election. There's voter fraud in every election The president in michigan for example would have to find about one hundred eighty three thousand ballots to be thrown out. I don't think he's going to. I also believe it is the president's right to try There is no hurry here. There is no rush The the electoral college doesn't meet until the middle of december. So if the president wants to litigate this litigation it you know if the democrats wanted to litigate the media would be just fine with the democrats litigated. So let the president pursue every avenue to resolve in his mind that there is no path or maybe he will find one. I think georgia should do a hand count of the ballots because there are so many people convince these voting machines or some sort of conspiracy to steal it. Joe biden or they've got a problem. There's an error. There's there's a counting problem an algorithm problem. There was a hack or something They print out paper ballots. Here in georgia so count the paper ballots. Make sure they aligned the machines. If you did you would probably take away a lot of the doubt about the election in many of these states that use these machines georgia could actually give people peace of mind by a hand count. But there's no rush the media suddenly in a rush for the president to concede. I don't know why they need to stacey. Abrams still hasn't conceded from twenty eighteen. Why should the media be in a hurry to force. The president to concede an election when they are perfectly fine with stacey. Abrams not gazillion. It's always the the democrats always gonna pass from the media not conceding a donald trump's somehow. He's got to concede right now while they're still i mean they're literally still counting votes. Why should he concede if he wants to litigate letting litigated. I don't think it's going to change the outcome. i think joe biden is president. Elect the electoral college will confirm it in december but the president has the right to proceed. Let him proceed now. Having said all that we need to acknowledge that the media is losing their mind. The president fired the secretary of defense in several other under secretaries of defense and the chief of staff to the secretary of defense and he's put different people in and the media. Well listen to this martha you covered washington. You've covered the pentagon for years. Have you ever seen an interim period like this at defense secretary out three more top pentagon officials tonight and if this is unsettling for folks at home what are your sources. Tell tonight. is there any concern that this could put national security at risk david. No one has seen anything like this. There is concerned about what this means. Is the president planning a military operation or the use of federal troops which expert opposed even mitch. Mcconnell praised esperer today and republican. John cornyn a member of the senate. Gop leadership said of trump's decision to fire. Asper i don't think it helps him and i don't think it helps the country. Is the president. Planning a military operation isn't gonna use federal troops. This is bat. Poop crazy talk by the media and we need to recognize on. Msnbc on cnn is the blue check marks on social media. Who for years have chest is fox news for giving legitimacy to the idea that the deep state was acted against the president and it turns out many of them were are suddenly now pushing theory that the president is packing his people into the pentagon today to ensure a military coup to prevent him from leaving power. This is actual mainstream members of the media. Who think it is illegitimate for the president to exercise lawful options to investigate the integrity of the election are on tv peddling. Bet poop crazy theories that somehow the president is going to use the military to do. What exactly you know on january twentieth at noon. If joe biden is certified by the electoral college to be president he becomes president. The secret service will pick donald trump up by the elbows and cart him off out of the white house premises as a trespasser he. He will no longer be president at noon on january twentieth. If the electoral college goes for jill biden. Which looks likely. It doesn't matter what the president does. I suppose by. Next week they're going to be running. Stories is the electoral college in hiding art. Do doing need witness protection program for them. So the president can't hunt them down and gun them down and kill them. I mean it's it's we're headed to that level of crazy. what how. Why did everybody lose their frigging mind. All of a sudden. I mean i literally in to those who don't understand why i was so angry yesterday. I am literally getting rational reasonable people. And they are. They are people. I know they are rational. Reasonable people who are living with me for not believing that the military are not the militant of the cia and the clinton global initiative hacked these voting machines around the country installed some program called hammer and scorecard and stole the election for for joe biden. And i when. I say rational reason people. I really mean rational reasonable. One of them is a college professor. I know I've got friends of mine. I went to law school with and they're livid with me for not willing to believe that. The cia hacked voting machines to steal it for joe biden. Meanwhile members of the press are literally the peddling a theory that there is a cool foot that the president has purged the pentagon to put in his loyalists. Who will i guess. Go hunting down and gunned down the electoral college or some nonsense. I have no idea it's nuts. How did everybody lose their mind. Orem i like the one crazy person. And all the people peddling conspiracy theories are saying i this boy. I don't know. I think i may reasonably sane level headed grounded person but i got i got people. I know who were mad at me. I've got a guy. I've known him since my freshman year of college unfunded me on facebook because i'm not willing to accept that there was massive voter fraud enough to change the outcome of the election and possibly the cia had something to do with it. I've got members of the media. Who were mad at me for for being dismissive of their concerns about a potential coup. Mean where where. Where's the we're the same people. I believe there's voter fraud that we're gonna get into some of the allegations here in a minute. I believe there's voter fraud. I wasn't elections lawyer. I am unaware for so from louisiana. I i am totally unaware of an election where there wasn't voter fraud. The question is does it. Rise to the level that cast out on the election of the standard is not well. There's voter fraud. We gotta throughout the election. Start over no because there's always voter fraud. There's actually a standard. It's gotta be enough to cast doubt on the margin of victory of the candidates in its state by state. It's not nationally. So i believe there's voter fraud. I just don't think it's enough. Choose the outcome. But i also concur it to this belief have the belief that the president should be allowed to pursue it. He should be able to. He should be able to file lawsuits. They filed several lawsuits. They've lost most of them a couple of them they themselves withdrawn. They filed a lawsuit in nevada. Alleging that five people had voted who were from out of state turned out. They were military personnel from nevada. They were lawful voters. The presidency withdrew that Lawsuit on their own. There was a a lawsuit filed by someone on the outside on behalf. The president's team in arizona about the sharpies they use black sharpie and felt tip pins that somehow they were messing up the scantron machines. That lawyer withdrew that lawsuit after it was proven by the governor a republican that it was unsubstantiated. There's the lawsuit in savannah that got tossed because it was alleging that in savannah ballots were killed Received after the polls close and were counted and they went to joe biden and the republicans who actually observe the process. That wasn't true. They did it under oath in court so it got thrown out there. There's a due process challenge pennsylvania's not a voter fraud challenge. Vania they to five file one. There's one in michigan. There's one in wisconsin. The president has the right to do this. I don't think they'll alter the results but he's got the right to try. Let him try. There are dates certain. The first date certain is the election. The second date certain is of the day the electoral college meets. I think it's december eighteenth And then the the next date. Certain is january third when congress convenes calcium votes and the next date certain is january twentieth at noon. We're a month lee slightly over a month until the next date. Certain there's plenty of time If we go back to two thousand the bush transition team they did not begin to meet with the clinton team until after the electoral college met in december. Why should this be any different. Why is the media fortunate. Why is the media pushing. This nonsensical claim that the president is going to launch a military coup. Why is everybody lost their mind. I'm just asking questions. I don't have the answer to the question. People have lost their minds. Listen to larry. Donald on msnbc the president will no doubt Leave the white house with a pardon. He will pardon himself. minimum or possibly arranged for mike pence to take the office for an hour at the end to pardon him at the end. So it's not directly from himself but a pardon cannot cover future acts of pardon cannot cover anything that happens the day after you get the pardon and so. The washington post refers to the espionage. Act in this article. What the hell what put an excuse. My language what the president is going to pardon himself It's actually disputed that the president can pardon himself under american constitutional law which is derived from english common law. The crown and had the pardon power in the crown cannot pardon crown So it's it's probably impossible for the president department. The president Someone else has to do it in in this idea that the president's gonna resign so mike pence will pardon him. Pardon him for what exactly what what is the crime. Alleged to which the president would pardon himself. There's no articulation as to what it actually is. These people have lost their minds. The president has broken. These people there are a lot of people who support the president who themselves have been broken. Who believed these crazy conspiracy. Theories i mean. Can we have like radio for the sane and listen. I don't mean to disparage people yesterday. I pretty angry. myself You should see some of the the correspondent with people who i've considered friends who are just livid with me for not being willing to go down there rabbit holes but this is nuts this is. This is insanity. Here's here's Jason johnson an ms nbc contributor. Well i think we're seeing yet another example of the kind of constitutional changes that we would like to see in this country. That probably won't happen under biden one of the things that we've seen from the republicans over the last couple of years. The end of obama throughout the trump administration is. Oh maybe there should be a constitutional law about replacing supreme court justices. Maybe there should be rules in place about appointments to administrations a lot of things that we thought were just norms that people would follow will be reasonable about if you have somebody in office. Who doesn't care they don't happen. This transition is showing that as well. What the the initial reason for having not long transition from the end of an election to of new administration's because people used to have to move around the country on horseback have trains. There's no reason to have a seventy day gap between an election and a new administration anymore. We're seeing why that is a problem for the same reason we've seen problems during the trump administration. And here's what i think about at a macro level yes. There are larger concerns districts. National security concerns but watching trump. Manage this transition. It's the same sort of callous disregard for everyday human beings that has sort of defined his entire presidency and these are the people who believe that. There's a cool foot now. Everyone's lost their mind. Apparently i mean we need cuckoo clocks in this country. I know what has happened. People are truly broken to this people a whole lot of people. Jesus is what they need. it is. It's this is mind boggling to wake up this morning i go on fox on fox and friends explaining the situation. They asked me what. I actually think about the election and tell them exactly like i'm told you i won't tell them so that i wouldn't tell you. I think the president has the right to pursue it. I think the president has the right to investigate it. I don't think you'll find enough Fraudulent votes out there to challenge to cast doubt on the ultimate outcome of the election except his supporters but not legally not to meet the legal standard but he has the right to pursue it. We're in no hurry leading. Do it count the paper ballots in georgia. And i'm getting hate mail from people for saying that at the same time i got reporters on television telling me that there's a military coup of foot by the president to maintain power. Why is everybody buying panic porn. That's what all of this is panic. Porn everybody the entire media's whipping everybody into a frenzy a nonstop fringy what are they trying to start a civil war in this country. I i don't know But i i gotta tap out of the out of the nonsense of this. Because it's it really is nonsense to to have martha raddatz a national security reporter for abc news speculate that the president is going to federalize troops and engage in military over. The election is bat poop christie. Talk and that's where the media is. Is it any wonder you got people out there who who believed that. The cia might have act voting machines to steal the election. For for joe biden. I mean that's no crazier than the idea that the president is going to launch a military coup to stay in power except the media wants to give the one legitimacy and not the other because the the the leftist in the media believed the one and not the other aright the full number. Well i see. I'm sorry we're having all sorts of issues with the phones today. In fact we got a guest coming on the eleven o'clock hour. we're trying to figure that out So let's not worry about the phones here. I do wanna bring you up to speed real quick on a local issue in georgia. We'll get into it more of the second hour In bibb county. So you've got an outgoing county commission. A number of them have lost their jobs in and while they're they're leaving power and no longer able to be held accountable. By the voters they're rushing through a transgender ordinance in county They did so without a lot of input from the public. And they're all i mean. I talked to one of them was like i can't believe anyone would be opposed to this. I i'm sorry but when you're allowing men to go into our daughter's bathrooms which is what the ordinance would do. Is it kind of makes people squeamish particularly when you waited until after none of no one could throw you out of office to be able to do it. And they're trying to rush through but thanks to the rules. they can't it. Pass five to four in a committee of the whole. It's gotta go through to the actual commission on tuesday of next week And so people in making. You probably need to know that this is happening in your county. They want to force even even a religious groups would have to allow This as as drafted There would be an exemption for private schools churches. But if you've got a religious group that needs a business license In the city operator in the county operate You're gonna have to allow men into your daughter's bathrooms girls into the boy's bathroom however they want to do it This is kind of the cultural elitism that got rejected by voters on last tuesday. A we find in south texas hispanic voters overwhelmingly moved to the gop because the left was so busy focusing on woke politics and social justice concerns and doing crazy stuff like this that they were rejected. The democrats Those of you in making probably you need to understand That this is happening. You need to take a stand you need to call your mayor recruit You need to call your members of the county commission. There were only four members of the bibb county commission who oppose this And you need to actually try to push the other winds to take a stand on this I am told that the commissioners who opposed it were valerie win. mallory jones joe allen and i believe scott shepherd The others were in favor of it. You need to take action. You need to let them know that you're not happy with them now that they're unaccountable and On their way out of office to do this that it should be the incoming commission who does something controversial like this the fact that none of them realize it's controversial. None of them care that it's controversial. None of them care about your concerns and your values or your churches concerns that. That's that's kind of a problem in our system of government now in the outgoing no longer accountable members of an elected body rush through progressivism. Because they think that they can get away with it and and frankly they can get away with it. Let's recognize this. They can't get away with this. This progressive woke agenda now that they're on their way out of office and they're probably not going to have the votes to repeal it once it happens with the new county commission. A you need to be advised of what's going on here. The churches were not consulted They had one pastor. I'm told spoke yesterday. They were completely dismissive of him. And the way it is worded contrary to what they're telling you you can read the orders for yourself if you have to get a business license or permit to conduct business in the county you're going to have to adhere to this regardless of your Sincerely held religious convictions. They're imposing their atheism on a bunch of people who are deeply religious is so if you live in bibb county you need to let them know you are not happy. You're county commission. You are not happy You you need to let them know you are post. You need to let them know that. the mayor needs to veto it. If it passes not that record would but you need to let that. They really don't think that this is a controversial issue. Have they not been paying attention to the last. Several years in the united states The mid county commission is broken Just your forewarned warned when we come back. Let's look at the vote fraud allegations. Hello there idiots. Eric erickson here. By the way. I got an email from someone. Denying one of the claims that i made about this ordinance. That bibb county is considering. Y'all so the crazy thing about this is this is middle georgia and if you read the ordinance There are a number of faith-based adoption agencies in town that they would shut down faith-based adoption agencies. They have to get a business license to open their doors But they have a faith based standards by which they do adoptions they don't for example typically adopt to single individuals they adopt to married heterosexual couples who are practicing christians and he read this this ordinance and it is quite plausible that these faith-based adoption agencies in town We'd be pleased by the city. Someone could target them not the the weasley wording in their exemption for religious organizations to essentially still allow them given what these faith-based adoption agencies to go after them So again if you're in mid verge particularly if you're in bibb county just a heads up on this the County commission is is coming for the christians And and they can say well. We're a christian too but you know yeah okay. You're you're a christian too. So why are you coming for other christians in bibb county. That's crazy nonetheless We need to move on i. I want to entertain the conversation of vote fraud. Because as i have said i think the president is allowed to make his case. There's no hurry. There's no reason to hurry The president should be allowed to make his case. And i wanna play you some audio of some of the legitimate complaints out there in claims out there. this is kayleigh mcenany. Listen to this. The rejection rate was two percent about twenty three thousand ballots less than the margin. The president would need to make up the difference it with reaction. Rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel and white house press. Secretary kayleigh mcenany kennedy. Let's start with you explain. What those percentages mean in explain. You're in the process of getting these affidavits. Love for example. You brought a pile of them with you tonight. that's right. i did sean We keep hearing the drumbeat of whereas the evidence. Right here sean. Two hundred thirty four pages of sworn affidavits. These are real people real allegation signed with notaries. Who are alleging the following among other contentions. They alleging this is one county. Wayne county michigan. They are saying that there was a batch ballots where sixty percent had the same signature. They're saying that thirty five ballots. I no voter record. But they were counted anyway. That fifty ballots were run multiple times through tabulation machine. That one woman said. Her son was deceased but nevertheless somehow voted. These are one of many many allegations in one county in a county. No less where poll-watchers were in many cases threatened with racial harassment. They were pushed out of the way and democrat. Challengers were handing out documents. How to distract. Gop challengers these are real in anyone who cares about transparency and the integrity of the system should want this to pursue to the discovery phase. We should we should. I actually completely agree with that. I don't know that it'll be enough to overturn the election. But we should actually pursue this. These are legitimate claims. They were able to get people under oath to testify to this So we should advance this. According to discovery The evidence is being preserved. We need to examine this. People need faith in the election. I he hears i wanna. I want to focus on michigan because there are a lot of claims about michigan. And that's the reason but you know maybe we should do pennsylvania in pennsylvania. The gap has grown joe biden. Nell leads the president by about sixty thousand votes in pennsylvania. There are an additional thirty thousand. Some odd people in pennsylvania who just chose not to participate in the presidential election. You've got to add those to margins together so ninety thousand and you've got to be able to throw out ninety thousand votes in pennsylvania to cast doubt on the election. That's not me that's actually. It's a legal standard. That is used. You've got to be able to undermine the election by challenging the margin plus the number of people who didn't vote in that race Who actually voted in the elections. So that's ninety thousand right now. If the president's team can do that they can throw out pennsylvania and then they can come to georgia the margin hears about eleven thousand now for joe biden if they can challenge eleven thousand in georgia. They can throw out georgia and on and on it goes. Let them do it. Let them try here. Here's this is a cbs news. Report from las vegas now. One of those cases involve a woman who died in twenty seventeen. The i team's david charge looking into that. And david you talk to this. Woman's husband kirk carl's wife rosemary. Who passed away three years ago. She is one of two cases of somebody who died on. Clark county's voter rolls. They were sent a mail in ballot and the ballot was returned. The question now is though who voted for her. It was Disbelief just made no sense to me. Kirk hartl said. He was surprised when he found out his wife who died in twenty seventeen had sent in a mail in ballot surprise because she passed away three years ago. Surprised even get that rosemary. Hartl died at fifty two from breast cancer. Her name is still on. Clark county's voter rolls incense those roles gotta ballot one was sent to rose. Marie but kirk says a ballot never got to his house. That is pretty sickening to me to be honest with you. According to ballot tracks the mail in ballot was sent. October ninth in return to the day before election day. Kenny officials say rosemary signature is a match to what's on their records registrar for elections. Joe glorious says any illegal activity will be flagged now keith. Haro wonders who took advantage of his grief adding he surprised his wife received a ballot at all certainly brings up a lot of discomfort. You know there's a pretty exhaustive process you go through when someone passes and in a second case a man who died in twenty seventeen had a ballot cast in his name but election officials. Tell me to pierce his daughter actually sent in that ballot and she never cast her own ballot. Clark county has forwarded these two cases up to the secretary of state's office. They're the ones who actually investigate. I'm david sharon's eight news now so okay so we've got one. It appears they woman didn't cast her ballot cast her dad's ballot a possibly an accident. But someone clearly signed this woman's name. She's been dead since twenty. Seventeen it's an actual probable cases of voter fraud in las vegas. There are right now. Thirty six thousand seven hundred. Twenty six votes separating joe biden donald trump as they continue to count in las vegas And so to overcome a the election to cast doubt on the election the president and a minimum needs to find thirty six thousand seven hundred twenty six votes. That were fraudulent. Maybe they can do it. I don't think they can. But i think the president has the opportunity to try. I'm sorry for such a nuanced position. i realize a lot of people want to pound them on the table and say the election was stolen. I just happen to think that there's always voter fraud. Is it ever enough to overturn the election. The president's got an opportunity. You heard kayleigh mcenany thirty seven. Three hundred thirty four pages of sworn affidavits. Those people were willing to under oath. Say that the ally. They saw fraudulent activity. Now some of the people who say these things didn't actually see fraudulent activity. They would have to be sort out. Some of 'em did we had the project. Veritas guy. The guy in pennsylvania who said there was all sorts of voter fraud that he witnessed mail fraud. He was a postal worker. That guy is now come out and said he was offered one hundred thirty thousand dollars by republicans to make that claim And now project veritas. Says they're gonna have a video showing that the guy is now lying about that We'll see but that doesn't seem to make that guy credible. All of this is to say while you know my position on this. I don't think you can overcome it. I think he has the right to overcome it. But how is the media the media that is peddling the story that there's cool foot of military cool foot. How are they handling all this. Turn on the alternate universe writ. Large there two parallel. America's it cannot be more stark. And if you're not seeing what's going on right wing media you're missing half the story. I mean people. Facebook feeds tens of millions of americans on facebook and twitter are seeing this nonsense all across television and social media. And there's no one in charge no one in charge except president trump setting the tone and others fallen in line. There's no one at fox news that is saying this is crazy. This is irresponsible. This is dangerous. The murdochs are letting this run rampant all over fox news and there are moments where it all at once every twenty four hours. There will be some pushback on the lies about voter fraud but that is not the story. The story is all of these propaganda shows telling. The audience of there might have been mass voter fraud. And the president-elect biden is not the legitimate president elect and the you shouldn't believe what you're hearing in the rest of the media. It is everywhere. That's what does that guy's problem. There are fourteen thousand one hundred forty eight vote difference between joe biden and donald trump in georgia. It is possible it is possible that the president is able to overcome that there are claims that fulton county Double counted some ballots. Why can't that be investigated here. So here's what they can. Here's thinking here's thinking In this goes back to georgia. We're going to spend some time on this so ever. I'm assuming that most of you most of you probably know this in georgia. Here's how we vote. If you request an absentee ballot you get a printed ballot. A skin tron ballot and that scantron ballot is a pass through a machine. You fill out you fill it out. You circle the bubbles and they come in. they're in a they're an interior envelope and then there's another envelope and you sign on that envelope That this is yours. You mail it in they match your signature. One of the things. That bradford's burger did that. I think he's probably needs to be called out on is said that they could match to the absentee st ballot application. Not just to either the driver's license file or the voter registration card. That probably needs to be looked at The laws very specific as to how it needs to needs to be done so i think there's probably claimed there if that that assertion is correct but then there are the early votes and the day of votes in the early voter. When you show up you got two week window before the election you show up early. You cast your vote at the board of elections what you do. Is you use the machines. Same on election day. You go in there's giant touchscreen machine you touch the you touch the machine with who you want to vote and the machine is tied to a printer the printers a duplex permanent principal front and back and what it does. Is it print your ballot and it shows you. It fills the bubble. It has the name you voted. Donald trump here. You voted david purdue. Here you voted. Kelly left for here E-voting for for whoever. You voted for barry louder. Milk Has has a ball and it has a qr code now qr code. You see these things there that that little black and white square. It looks like a bar code. But it's a square with with dots. And you take your ballot off the printer and you take it to a big sorting box and the big sorting box process. This is the ballot and it can tell that you're voting a provisional ballot or regular ballot and the provisional ballots are are sorted into one box and the legit. The non-professional ballots are sorted into another by the machine as your ballot passes through the machine. That qr code is scanned by the machine and the machine separates out. These are provisions these irregular once. The provisionals are confirmed. They're then they're then sorted into the total tabulation and that total tabulation based on the machine reading the qr codes should match the actual ballots. But you can pull the paper ballots out of the machine and when you pull the paper ballot out of the machine you can say Look it actually says this is a vote for for donald trump or. This is a vote for joe biden. So take all of the printed paper ballots because we still have them all and now count them. Count them not with a qr code but with the actual words pearl the ballot. This is a vote. For donald trump. This is a vote for joe biden. This is oh for donald trump. This vote for donald trump. This is vote for joe biden if the machines are working properly the machine vote should match the hand count now. There are a hint. There's an error in the hand count. there will always be some errors hand counting probably so it may be off by by a couple votes but if it's only just off by a couple of votes you know that the machine is working right. If however there's a fourteen thousand vote margin between the two and There's a fourteen thousand vote error. Then you know. Something's wrong with the machine. Why take the time to print paper ballots. If we're not going to count the paper ballots. Why take the time to go through all of that process with all of those ballots. If we're not going to do it. It provides a good audit trail at provides a legitimate on it for the ballot. We should do this in georgia because there are multiple places around the country that use the same machine. If georgia is willing to do this. You're going to resolve the fears that a lot of people's minds that all these machines have been compromised. Now there will be people people say well. That's just georgia. But george is one of the places where it's alleged that this hammer and scorecard Thing was was put into the machines and the machines stole the stolen for joe biden. I think it's a bunch of nonsense. Some of you are persuaded. There could be some problem with the machines. There is a claim in michigan or wisconsin. That one of the machines spit six thousand votes. Over to joe biden. When it shouldn't have wisconsin says it was a human error that they fixed it. Let's find out. Do the paperback. What's the harm in county. The paper ballots and reassuring people that know. The machines are compromised. What what's the harm in reassuring. People that the bad thing they think is happening isn't actually happening. I think we should be willing to do that as a republic as a state we should be willing to do what we can to alleviate the legitimate concerns people have that the electronic voting machines or somehow compromised That there are errors. Made along the way. We've got the paper ballots. Let's count the paper ballots. Hello there it. Is eric erickson here. we're having phone problems. I'm sorry So there's no reason for me to give you the number. I want you to be aware of something and to be cautious about something pleased because i'm getting these emails from a number of people. There are claims of statistical evidence of fraud in the elections. Some of you have shared these claims with me and you're using all sorts of mathematical formulas to show that there's some sort of problem with the election etc etc etc Here is the issue in every election in every election. Going back to at least two thousand. With george w bush al gore. Someone has made a claim someone. Prominent has made a claim that they have the statistical evidence to show that there's voter fraud. Those claims have not panned out in any of these elections. Just so you understand. Not saying it can't happen this time but there for all these allegations that come forward every two years and it happens. Every two years that their statistical evidence of fraud we have not yet actually seen the statistical evidence of fraud in any of these elections proven. There are precincts in america. Where i suspect fraud does happen. And the statistical evidence within those precincts can be pretty good at finding you where you need to look for vote fraud but the desist ical anomalies that you see are not in and of themselves proof of fraud what you used. The statistical evidence for is to know where to go look and this has been going on since the year two thousand. At least. I'm sure before that. But that's when i really started paying attention to it and we have never seen precincts investigated. Were these statistical anomaly. Show up where we've actually seen coordinated or wholesale or or or vote fraud of any scale so when you're when you're sending me the stuff understand. I'm i'm sympathetic to it. It is the statistical formulas that are used to show that that there are potential vote. Fraud problems are used by the government. And what happens. Typically is there's an entire elections division within the department of justice. And when that comes to light that there is a these on. Forget what it's called now. I i knew like five minutes ago. What it was called. Don't you hate it when you're My buddy matt whereas whereas he writes about this. This is so unprofessional of me. he's written about this a number of times and it is. It's one of the things you need to understand here. Is that in these cases regularly without fail we have. It found the statistical evidence that people claim is there. I'm not trying to bad mouth people here. I'm not trying to be argumentative and are not trying to be confrontational. I see a lot of people. Sending me links that they have from people on facebook who are amateur statisticians mostly who claimed that there are some statistical evidence to show that there's potential vote fraud. And i want you to understand that i am familiar with this. It has been ongoing for a very long time and we have yet to actually see some level of engagement. Where actually what you see. Is the statistical anomaly. Proves there's vote fraud. We see a lot of people. Make the claim it is here. It is now binford law. You're hearing a lot about this. Binford's law in statistics. There's an interesting number law called. Been fridge law. The idea of simple in many naturally occurring collections and numbers the leading digits likely to be small for example. The number one appears to be the leading digital about thirty percent of the time while nine appears to leading digit Less than five percent of the time the distribution of leading number decreased exponentially. Everyone's vote follows. Been fridge law. Except joe. Biden's vote in milwaukee county ward. Okay all right. That's the department of justice can use that stat. Go in there and investigate. Here's the problem. They've been doing this now for decades and they've never actually found binford's law to prove vote fraud so please just keep that in. Mind when you're sending me the links you read on. The internet are right. We need to move on in hyper focused on georgia when we come back. There's actually a lot of news out of georgia. What's going on with the election in georgia. What's going on with runoff marco. Rubio's coming down to the vice. President has announced. He is coming back to georgia There's a whole lot of There's a lot happening in the state of georgia right now and we need to spend a lot of time on the only show Mountains to the sea so to speak. Pardon me on sherman to get to this. Hello and welcome it. Is eric erickson here. The eric erickson joe across the state of georgia. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five and the phone lines down so hit. Actually call sorry. Congratulations to james beverly. James beverly is a state house democrat. He is from making and he is going to be the new leader of the democrats. In the state house. Bob trammell the ville democrat lost the republicans targeted his seat pretty heavily. Bob travel lost his district. I mean everybody kind of new. His his his days were numbered in the state legislature trammell. Who is a very nice guy. I've i've i've never met him but no other republicans all Think he's a very nice guy but They wanted him beat because his district for donald trump in two thousand sixteen when for kim twenty eighteen so clearly a republican district in the republicans came out. They voted They voted for. David jenkins the republican so they needed a new minority leader in the state house. In james beverly will be it now. They will probably wind up gaining two seats overall so the republicans will have one hundred three seats. The democrats will have seventy seven seats Brett herrell in gwinnett county lost to rebecca mitchell. Regina lewis ward beat dale rutledge in henry. Rockdale county and shave. Roberts beat deborah cox in fulton county although the ap has declared a winter there yet it looks likely dipper cox will be lost now. Roulston will come back speaker unfortunately The republicans cave there but The democrats have james. Beverly now here. I find is interesting. Let me let me read you. This is from the atlanta journal constitution. This gives you kind of a lay of the land of some of the things that he is saying out there. And this is notable here. Here's what he says that he's spent the summer working with the national democratic redistricting committee to figure out how we could create fair maps for democrats across the state in order to protect our members and expand our base. He's working with the national democratic redistricting committee to figure out how we could create fair maps for democrats across the state in order to protect our members and expand our base. Why isn't he working to figure out how to create fair maps georgians. He wants to be the majority leader. I mean he clearly would has aspirations to be the majority leader. Why is it. He working for georgia. Why why is he just wanting to focus on the democrats that that's bad messaging now. I realize he's new to the job. He's been there for twenty four hours but You you you wanna you wanna work for all georgians and yet you're saying well we just we just want we want fair district for not not for georgia fair district's for us kind of needs to rethink that message. There the democrats are interested in the democrats are not released. Shouldn't leading in the state of georgia and they're not gonna lead in the state of georgia and the reason is because george lawmakers get to draw their districts voting maps will be redrawn because the population of the state has grown in the republicans. Get to draw the lines. The democrats really get no say in the lines. Now they can rush it to federal court if they want and try to get an obama appointee to side with them but the supreme court has already ruled that partisan gerrymandering is perfectly constitutional and the republicans. get to draw those lines now. The republicans get to draw expanded lines around the nation. This is one reason. I think For all of the the heartache. Over the president Not crossing the finish line first. The republicans have a lot to celebrate here. It's why the democrats are so angry. Actually by for those of you keeping score at home it looks like the republicans may get within six votes of having the house majority. Let me say that again. Because you're not getting this in the national press it looks like the republicans could get to within six seats of having the majority in the house representatives. That's a pretty big deal. It's looking very much like the house. Representatives isn't gonna flip. There aren't enough seats left right now right now. There are sixteen outstanding seats. The republicans are ahead and all of them except a couple. There are sixteen remaining seats if the republicans were to win them all it would be to eighteen two to seventeen like it's going to wind up giving the republicans about six seats from having the majority which is incredible that that's incredible gains by the gop in the house representatives if they win georgia that gives them fifty two seats in the senate Dan sullivan was called right. As i was coming on here this morning the senator from alaska thom tillis was called yesterday. The senator from north carolina that gives the republicans right now fifty to forty eight in the senate if leffler and purdue are called that gives the republicans fifty two. If only one of them wins. It's fifty one would just got to win one. We hope to win both of them. This is fantastic. This is good and we're moving forward. Now let's get into what's actually going to happen here in georgia. The republicans will draw. The lines. Next for georgia has fourteen districts. We may pick up one. After the census done that would give us fifteen and the republicans will draw those lines. There are in the state of georgia. There are a handful one. Two three four five. There are six democratic districts in georgia. There will probably continue to be six democratic districts in georgia. One of the may actually become more swing. we'll probably the republicans will bolster some of the population in for example the sixth or the seventh to pull that back into the gop dwindle. The numbers again reduced the number of democrats in congress. They will draw the lines for the house and the senate and they will lean to the republicans the governor of course We'll have a say in this but it will be mostly the state legislature. The i suspect the speaker of the house will do what he can to carve up districts to punish some of the republicans who oppose him. Philip singleton david clarke some of the others They'll have to have the republicans hold on and and and help them The the speaker of the house has been a pretty bad strategist through all of this. So the republicans will have to hold on and see what they can do. But the big focus right now is what to do about the senate the democrats if you've heard the stacey abrams group has raised six million dollars since the weekend. Six million dollars since the weekend. That is a whole lot of money that she's raced the republicans however raising money as well. If you want to find out where you can donate the money that you you give is going to be split. Fifty fifty between leffler and purdue You can you can text the word data to three three seven seven seven. You'll also find out a volunteer information. How you can volunteer their republicans. Need all the help they can. They're gonna have some outside groups come into the state mobilizing people for this. And i want to give you a general overview of of where things stand right now in georgia. The votes are still being tabulated in georgia. There are some irregularities. The secretary of state is looking into georgia to make sure that everything aligns properly we know that the republicans have won fifty three percent of the statewide vote for the state house. They've won fifty four percent of the statewide vote for the state senate. They've won fifty one percent of the statewide vote for the congressional races. They won forty nine point. Eight percent of the vote for david produce race and they won fifty three percent of the vote for the leffler race. Now how is that work. Well when you take the right of center candidates that special election. I think there were twenty one candidates when you take all the ones who were right of center. They got fifty three percent of the vote that suggests that these are racists were republicans as long as the republicans. Don't internalize the idea that somehow the democrats stole the presidential election in georgia and there's nothing they can do about it There is reason. Believe that the democrats we'll be able to not take the senate back. The republicans will be able to hold the senate the republicans though. They need their ground game in georgia. The governor actually has some side benefit here that we should consider. The governor will be up for reelection. Twenty twenty two. He will be running. Stacey abrams stacey. Abrams is trying her best to get her ground. Game as fully operational as possible. Stacey abrams is trying as best she can to make sure that she is is as engaged and fully operational with fair fight georgia to get as many democratic voters to the polls and by the way it looks like her group was actually rather successful turning out democratic vote in the metro atlanta area so the governor is going to have to boost his own ground game the benefit of having this election. This runoff in january is that allows the governor's team the opportunity to tweak the ground game for the governor now to ensure he wins without a runoff in two thousand twenty two. There is some advantage to this now. As i said on fox news this morning i was on fox and friends. Republicans in georgia tend to have an advantage in the runoff republicans in georgia tin to be able to mobilize much more quickly in the runoff. Republicans in georgia tin. Too much. More a bully. Get the vote out in run offs. The democrats are trying. The democrats are working their best to make it happen We got we got to check. We gotta see we gotta make sure that the republican ground game is still good part of the problem. Republicans have in. The state of georgia is the decrepitude of the republican party. Now this is not too slight. David shafer the chairman of the republican party. Nor is it too slight What was john's name the prior chairman of the republican party. Whose name escapes me. All of a sudden a nice guy both of them essentially have been doing what they can to prop up and preserve. The republican party after several years of neglect. When nathan deal was governor of the state of georgia he essentially used the republican party of georgia as a tool to run his reelection. It was not really a republican party focused on general ground game for republicans. It was not really a party focused on door to door outreach and advocacy for republicans. It was not really a republican party organized for phone banking. The candidates were left to their own devices. And david shafer is working to turn that around but part of the problem is the republican party. Lost a discrimination lawsuit The i forget the name of the last chairman but he had to settle a case involving some of the staffers in the In the georgia republican party left the party battle financially. They've had a hard time raising money. They've got to get back in the game. They need to get back to where they were When they help. Sonny perdue take over. The state in two thousand two is the first republican governor says reconstruction. The republican party in. georgia needs to be revitalized. You will note that most of the major candidates are doing a bypass around the state. Gop which is kind of telling also kind of troubling that this is happening but it's by necessity they want to win more than they want to prop up a republican party right now. I don't blame them. We gotta figure out a way to to get the republican party ground game back in georgia under the guidance of the republican party. David schenker is a good chairman of the party. He was the executive director of the republican party with. Republican started making massive gains in the state of georgia. He knows how to do it but he lacks the resources to be able to do it. Effectively in georgia. We need to get that back to him. He's good guy. The party has gotten atrophied through disuse And lack of us as governors used their own campaign teams to run in by the way. I don't blame brian for it. Given what he's been left with the rump of the party that he's been left with. But we need all hands on deck right now for these runoffs here georgia if david if david perdue and kelly leffler lose chuck schumer becomes the majority leader. So if you want to help if you want to give money if you want to go door to door text or data to three three seven seven seven followed the link. I will send you all the information. You need to be able to get engaged in help win. Hello there it. Is eric erickson here. I gotta i gotta play this. Ralph were not clip. I totally forgot about this. Listen to this ralph warnock. He is to the so. Here's the problem. This is the problem for the democrats in georgia de fund. The police hurts the democrats here. Before i get to ralph warnock Let me play this clip by representative tim ryan. Moderate democrat tried to run for president. Well you gotta keep these races local and you. I think you've gotta talk about unifying messages which we've talked about for awhile around jobs and the economy health care bread and butter issues. Pensions in that's what. I talked about a lot. My numbers were significantly down to But we had to get out of that. Defunding police The green new deal. I have a lot of building. Construction trade workers who support me. Who work in the natural gas industry for example Which i support of obviously regulating it but the idea of banning fracking for example. What would be a death now. And i think joe biden in his campaign did an impeccable job of threading. That needle around you know being for the working class advocating for the working class. And i think that's why you you see him as is the next president because he was able to do that. So get rid of defunding. The police please get rid of defunding. Police get get rid of the radicalism within the democratic party. Here's here's the problem. The democrats in georgia have chosen to go with jon. Ossoff an raphael warnock never mind rough award running over his wife He's got problems with his own positions. This is raphael warnock speaking at a rally. The president moves the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem in israel This is walk. Ministration opened up the. Us embassy in jerusalem standing there president's family a few million miles evangelical preachers were responsible for the mess that we found ourselves in both there and here misquoting and misinterpreting the scripture talking about peace. Meanwhile young palestinians sisters and brothers who are struggling for their very lives struggling for water and struggling for their human dignity stood up in a non violent protests. Same if we're going to. We're going to dr struggling. And yes. There may have been some folk who were violent but we ought to know how that works out. We know what it's like to stand up and have a peaceful demonstration and have the media focus on a few violent uprisings. But you have to look at those palestinian sisters and brothers who are struggling for their human dignity. I'm sorry i keep listening more. So you have raphael warnock. Come out and say that. Essentially palestinians lives matter and attacks the president of the united states for moving the american embassy in tel aviv to jerusalem. Something that warnock believes would calls a war. We now know it didn't but he's also on the side of the palestinians. How is that gonna help him Frankly with a bunch of Jewish voters in atlanta of which there are plenty. They tend to lean democrat. But they care about this issue. I guess he can offset it by having john. Also the ticket except the problem with us off that Black voters don't particularly care for jon. Ossoff this is something that the media of course is paid very little attention to. I talked about it on fox and friends this morning. Jon ossoff lost votes. From joe biden. David purdue got more votes than donald trump john off got less votes than joe biden. That tells you pretty specifically that. John also a weak candidate. He doesn't play well. Outside the urban core of atlanta with progressive voters he himself has spoken at rallies. Were people are holding up defunding police signs and he was championing the cause he never explicitly said he was smart enough not to explicitly say it but he was there. Lending support to at raphael. Warnock of course has come out attacking the police. This is an issue. The republicans need to pick up and pursue. There are a bunch of people out there who the gop should only focus on. Chuck schumer nancy pelosi. I think that's wrong when you look at the record of john often in raphael warnock that needs to be in play their rhetoric and their words need to be in play They're aligning with far left. Radicals needs to be in play the fact that they wanted to treat seriously defunding. Police needs to be in. Play the fact that stacey. Abrams refuses to walk away from it. Needs to be in play. The fact that raphael warnock believes that palestinian lives matter and we should move. The american embassy to the capital of israel matters these sorts of things matter. The fact that raphael warnock right over his wife mattress these sorts of issues matter on the campaign trail they matter to voters and what we saw early on david purdue did his best to truly define himself more so than he focused on john. Also certainly it got nasty between the two but not like it's going to now Spent most of her time going after doug collins to get into the runoff and it worked. Now she's got a turn all that money on ralph warnock and there's a lot of opportunity out there to define ralph warnock as a hyper progressive radical and. I think you're gonna see the republicans do it and it'll be fair attack on warnock before we go to commercial break. This hour of the program is sponsored by first liberty building and loan their newnan georgia. They're locally you've got business sin for individuals but if you got a business you need access to capital. You're tired of banks telling you know you wanna work with someone who can build a plan to help your business grow go to first liberty. J. dot com. That's the website i liberty. J. dot com. You it's been ten minutes with the folks that i liberty building alone and see if they're good fit for you if if you're a good fit for them i liberty g. a. dot com. Where banks are telling you know they wanna tell you yes. Let them work with you. I liberty g. a. dot com. Hello there it. Is your your accent here. The full number up. I just got a text. Message from mitch mcconnell. The situation in georgia is dire eric. We'll lose our majority of you. Don't ship in thirty five dollars a five times match unlocked for sixty minutes. Do any of you fall for those text messages. The five times match nonsense. Which is illegal doesn't actually happen. I'm sorry for the dead air. I nearly said naughty word. Can i do this without cussing. Sorry i'm gonna watch my mouth. Y'all election season just just puts it into overdrive Okay i can i can. I can do without saying battling which here we go. Three two one. I continue to be tired of text messages by the republican party. I continue to be enraged that. They have taken over my cell phone. I never gave them permission to my knowledge. I didn't even give them my cellphone number and they continue to text me. I want to help kelly. Leffler and david perdue win. The united states senate. I will not give one damn penny to anybody. Because i am tired of text messages. I have asked to be taken off the lists. They will not take me off the lists. If we lose because of lack of money maybe they will learn their lesson. I don't want us to lose. I wanted to win. But i'm not giving them a penny. I'm not give them a penny. Because i know what they will do to me. They will continue to text me. They will send me these stupid messages about five times matches if you give in the next sixty minutes. Nobody's doing five times match. That would be illegal. Nobody's doing it the fact that they think you're falling for you know what they're doing they're just annoying you. I will never give money to another candidate who runs for office because of this and i am very seriously. I've got good friends of mine. One of my best friends is a member of congress. And i did not give him a penny and i feel bad. I didn't give him a video. But i'm sorry i'm not doing it. Because i'm tired of the text messages. I feel like i'm being punished for trying to help people and i know i'm not alone. I hear it from people all the time constantly. People are complaining about the text messages. And you you unsubscribe from one number. They start another number this morning. I'm getting text messages from a four seven eight area code. In fact i let me find this one or have already deleted it. Got it this morning from yup here. It is eighty four seventy eight area code. Breaking its official. Georgia will determine the city russia contribution to ensure. We keep georgia red. No i'm not giving you money if georgia turns blue maybe you'll start thinking about all the message spam you've sent all the people you've hounded in punished for daring to give you money to keep your majority. I gave a couple thousand dollars to the president's reelection campaign. And all i get now are text messages asking me for more money. I get emails. I'm we'll i can deal with the emails. I could send emails to spam. They won't leave my cellphone alone. And i'm tired of it and i know i'm not alone in being tired of it. I hear from you people constantly that you're tired of it too. I'm not giving money. I discourage everyone from giving money if you do give money and you've never given money before makeup. A phone number put in five five five. Whatever make up an area code. Make up a phone number. Do not give them your real number. You will never ever be left alone again for those of you. Who have already given money in you like me. We're we're dumb enough to give him your real phone number. Don't ever do it again. And maybe they will finally leave you alone and say maybe this person's dead. I'm seriously thinking. I need to do full number. I you know my team wants me to get a new phone number. Because everybody i give it out to all the listeners text me. I'm getting hate mail. Take text messages from listeners. I i was fringed with at one point. Now the pissed off at me so the texted me angrily member to block old numbers. Maybe i do need a new phone number. I need to do phone number. Just get rid of the text message. But i'm pretty sure they would find the new number. You know how you will one day when you're an you that you've made it to hell instead of heaven. You will die and you will think you're in heaven and your phone will start lighting up with text messages. In fact these consultants were sitting you messages. I'm not sure hell is hot enough for them. Maybe if they they have to deal with the flames of hell and also get constant text messages every five seconds for the rest of eternity. He they will pitt finally for having sinister texas. I'm just done with it. i'm tired of it. I sit here literally on this program talking you guys every day and watch the frigging text messages. Come in for the five times match. Ten times veg. Give money now eric. Do not love city more eric. We're gonna lose the majority but for you. You've got to give us money eric. Or we're all gonna lose. Chuck schumer is going to be majority leader because of your. You're not guilty me into giving you any more money. Leave me alone. I'm tired of it and every time. I ask nicely. They say we'll work on it. We'll see if we can pull you out of the database. And i'm still there. I'm still getting text messages and so were you. I'm not giving you any money. People kelly david do i love you. You're welcome on this program anytime i want to help you. I will tell everybody to tell opie. I will let you on the program so you can tell people help you. I'm not giving any. I would have i. I would have given you money two years ago to give you money for years ago. Had to give you money but in two thousand twenty not a because of these text messages. I'm tired of them. And the only way i can protest this do not give money to candidates love support cleaning some of my dearest friends who are now in congress thankfully. But i can't do it. Because i'm tired of it and i can't get off. I unsubscribe and they put me back on. im subscribing. they come from another number. I'm done with it so incredibly frustrating. We should move on now. Because i could complain about this all day. It really is just frustrating to me that there's no escape from the so. What else is going on here. Well i wanna actually talk about the hispanic vote. I talked a little bit about this yesterday. this is something i think we need to pay more attention to star. County is the most hispanic county in the united states of america. Hillary clinton won starr county. Texas sixty forty. Joe biden won it by five points. Hidalgo county is the second most hispanic county in america. It is also in texas next to star county and clinton won it as well. Sixty forty joe biden by seventeen points while joe biden did not win texas this now reading from the Washington post while. Joe biden did not win texas. He came closer than any democratic presidential candidate in years. Losing the state by six points a narrowing made possible by latino voters from urban strongholds. But something different happened along the rio. Grande republicans ran up their numbers in the overwhelmingly hispanic reliably democratic counties. Along the border taking advantage of the habitual underinvestment and lack of infrastructure. There as well as neglect from the state and national democratic party's the shift extended through the more than twelve hundred mile border from the populace lower delta of brownsville and mcallen to the sparse ranch land near laredo in the high desert of el paso biden won majorities in most counties but dramatically smaller margins than hillary clinton the bluest of blue counties around the river. Zapata county flipped to president trump. When fifty two point five percent of the vote. it was the first time. Since reconstruction that a republican presidential candidate paddock county zapata and starr counties our tiny communities that may never swain election but the story of trump's performance and biden's backslide along the texas border experts say shows the importance of cultivating deeper relationships with diverse latino population that continues to claim a growing dominant share of the texas electric. But wait. there's more. It wasn't just texas. If you look in colorado you want to know which counties wit for donald trump there are a couple of pushing counties and in the core white christian colorado springs that area fairly republican the outside of the denver in the urban areas you want to find the counties that for donald trump the red counties they're all hispanic counties. There was a dramatic shift dramatic shift in colorado for hispanic voters they went towards donald trump in texas hispanic voters went towards donald trump. In florida non cuban hispanic voters went to donald trump. Now non. cuban is an important qualifier there because cubans tin vote for republicans in florida and those of cuban descent even the third generation Which had been trending towards the democrats went back rapidly. Donald trump and do you know why socialism and woke nece. Let me read you. One of the other key portions here alfonzo solis. This is again for the washington. Post was an unemployed oil industry worker win. Donald trump ascended to the presidency and promised jobs the thirty two year old found steady work in west texas. he voted for donald trump. Democrats are doubling down to some degree. Defend the police dallas interest. Democrats are livid about it. But the progressives i mean you got alexandria ocasio cortez going out there saying all the progressives one everybody she helped one. Why should they back away from anything. In fact alexandra. Core cortez is claiming that had the democrats who are being wiped out in the house gone progressive. They would've won her interpretation. Is that all of these democrats who lost loss. Because they compromised progressivism. that's her actual interpretation of the losses. The democrats are sustaining. Where they're gonna come within five seats of losing their house majority. She believes they need to push the green deal. Gizmodo the technology say the left wing technology site claims that they need to push the green new deal that the green new deal is clearly a winner because everybody who campaigned for one that some of these days they claimed that some of these were or competitive county. Stay weren't but that's one of the things that they're pushing now is they need to go full hard core green new deal or else. That's not actually going to get them elected. That's going to cause further defeat for the democrats. So i'm okay with them doing this. They're pushing this nonsense. Because in their bubble it works in their bubble. It's something that wins them elections. But the problem here is that it's not really true. It's not really plausible. That these people. I'm trying to find this article from gizmodo. It's it's not really plausible to think that these people one because of this in fact it is obvious that the reason these progressives one. These districts is because the districts were carved out to be progressive in progressive areas. They were not swing districts and the democrats. Want you to believe that. It was the swing district interest who lost because they didn't go progressive. That's not true. With hispanic voters will hispanic voters want jobs. They want good education for their kids and other kids can't get good education because their kids are stuck in public schools with teachers unions. That won't give them a good education and they can't get them into private schools because democrats are blocking school choice. So they're voting republican. They are voting republican. Because they're getting jobs in the oil fields of texas and the democrats want shut. Those oilfields down there getting jobs. In the fracking fields. Pennsylvania and the democrats want to shut those jobs down there getting jobs across america. The democrats want to shut shutdown america. They want to put us all back into lock down in florida. They voted republican because democrats are openly talking about socialism and there was a negative reaction of hispanic voters in florida to the idea of socialism. This it's not a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out and yet alexandru cortez and her deep thoughts out. There have decided that What they need to do is they need to double down on all the nonsense that they need to Double down on the green new deal. They need to double down on progressivism. They need to double down on woke them. They need to shut in marginalize. Anyone who didn't support joe biden. They need to go after churches. I mean they're doing all of this stuff. The woke is of the democrats right now. The social justice warriors out there turns out when you're defunding the police and killing off high paying jobs people in the hispanic community. Don't wanna vote for you when you come out. And you're arguing the language of the socialists. turns out people. Don't wanna vote for you and now deep thoughts bags andrea casio cortes at the end of the day. This is an investment in our economy that should grow our wealth as a nation. The question isn't how will pay for it but what we will do with our new shared prosperity that was deep thoughts alexandria. Ocasio cortez if you follow me on twitter at erickson. I'm going to re tweet a map from my friend patrick feeney. And what he does is. It's a map that shows where the president outperforms the gop versus where the gop outperforms the president. It's actually very interesting here In new england the president perfor- outperforms the traditional gop in the southwest. The president outperforms the gop the iron range the minnesota area diawara. And and and that in montana the president outperforms the gop in a lot of in with in in west virginia. The president performs the gop but in much of the rest of the country The gop outperforms the president. I it's it's a very interesting map. the president and the republicans are going to need to try to find some way to accommodate themselves. You know i'm. I'm not a huge overwhelming fan of trumpism and i think i've got to concede the fact that trumpism tends to win the republican party elections Particularly in i mean in new mexico. The gop is going to pick up a house seat in new mexico. A decidedly democratic state You have an incumbent democrat Sutil torres small and yvette. Herrell is going to win largely with the votes of hispanic voters in minnesota. Michelle fischbach is going to beat. Colin peterson the democratic incumbent. this is basically this district runs from the north to the south of western minnesota and she ran a pro-trump republican and she's going to beat colin peterson the moderate democrat. It's a pretty big deal that this is happening. You've got in louisiana's fifth congressional district a complete shutout from democrats. There's going to be a runoff For house races in louisiana in south carolina. Remember joe cutting him poor old joe cunningham. I got a buddy of mine. Joe cutting him. I think he's listening right now and and we. He has gotten hate mail for a very long time from people. Who don't like. joe. Cottingham the congressman joe. Cutting have the congressman One in two thousand eighteen in a seat that had been republican since reconstruction almost Well not that long. It was tim. Scott seat and then Mark sanford had the seat. Sanford was ousted in a primary by a pro trump insurgency The insurgent lost to joe cunningham. And now mary nancy. Mace is going to beat joe cutting him and go to congress in the seat. It may flip back to yours except probably not because the republicans are going to district the democrats in south carolina had a terrible show. Jim clyburn has hung onto his seat. And he's going to be about the only democrat from south carolina in iowa. Abby thinking our the incumbent democrat is going to lose to actually hinson and let's not forget western north carolina. Madison cawthorn beat mo davis. Pretty handily madison. Cawthorn that the young man who will chair who the democrats tried to claim. The nazi had a very sympathetic media. He actually one in. its first. Tweet out was cry more libs. I kinda like that. He's going to congress a lot of these people The media nationally maligned. they're going to congress their flips and they're going to congress and the republicans and they are people who the media tried to engage in character. Assassination and they're from areas of the country were hispanic voters join republican voters to vote for the republican who promised not to defend the police and promised to oppose environmental regulations. That would kill him. You know screw. Prince charles is out today saying we are in the last hours of planet earth. You actually said that the last hours of planet earth no no. We're not the hysteria of climate change. People in the media is only going to intensify as republicans continue to block their radical agenda. And let's be clear here. The same agenda. The democrats are employing now on. Climate is a global warming is the same agenda in the seventies that they were pushing for global cooling. It always involves destroying capitalism. Let let's hypothetically say that the climate is changing. Let's hypothetically say the world is is warming. what the solution is private sector innovation. Apple now uses one hundred percent renewable energy as prioritize recycling of materials and it's benefiting apple it's benefiting the environment if you believe that why not have more private sector innovation. Why all the scare tactics out there. The democrats are running on fear right now the republicans to be fair where the president at least ran a campaign on fear but a lot of republican candidates. Other didn't really run on fear they just ran on. We're not gonna de-fund the police. Were going to create jobs and opportunity. Guess what voters responded to that as opposed to the democrats fear that the whole the whole planets hell in handbasket. Donald trump is a tyrant. He's putting kids in cages. And you need to stop him. Voters didn't really like donald. Trump's message of the democrats are gonna bring on socialism and it like the democrats message of donald. Trump's gonna bring on nazism. They went for the republican candidates. That i just wanna create jobs and not wreck the economy and and push environmental regulations. That are going to hurt us. And guess what. The voters went with that nationwide. Maybe republicans need to stick with that. Hello and welcome it. Is eric erickson here across the state of georgia from the north georgia mountains to the florida line from the chattahoochee to the coast covering the whole state and there is big news happening now. Brad rafts burger. The secretary of state has announced a statewide hand recount of the actual ballots. We will get to that but before we get to that we have to pause. It is the eleventh hour the eleventh day of the eleventh month. that is important. 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Ma go glow glow and glow. Re-glue uri blue true Gene he is too a Thank you all very much for your services use served thank you to the families who lost loved ones on the battlefield for your sacrifice Thank you all this veterans day. We will move onto the news now. There is breaking news. Braford burger the secretary of state in georgia's ordering a statewide hand recount of the presidential race is an audit on the race. This is good news. It's something i've called for Yesterday the governor has asked. Brad rapids burger to do this. The president team has asked bread. Rafts were do this. And the senate candidates have asked is burger do this. He will do this. The democrats of course are screaming. That it's unnecessary. I actually think this is very necessary. The secretary of state will do a hand recount. The process of a hand recount is each board of elections is tasked with having members of both parties as overseers republicans democrats together. We'll go in and observed a hand recount of ballots in each county of the state of georgia. All hundred fifty nine counties will participate in this. What they're calling an audit of the paper trail in georgia. The machines all have The the voting machines are touchscreens. But they print out paper ballots that have qr codes machines. Then scan the qr codes and those qr codes are what tabulates results but on those qr codes that are printed out. After you register your vote on the touchscreen they also include who you actually voted for so they will be able to take the printed page. It will be allegedly type. We're not worrying about bubbles. Were not worrying about inc. We're not worried about sharpies. We're not worried about was the bubble filled in all the way. We're not worried about hanging. Chads they just take the printout that you've produced. You can look at it before you sticking to the machine to make sure tabulated vote accurately. It is presumed that you did. And the secretary of state. Now we'll have every county in the state. Pull out those paper ballots from every precinct and count. It will take time to do. It could take a couple of weeks to do given the amount of people who voted Given that Only they've just now concluded in fulton county. It appears in cobb county. the votes have been processed. The time is now removed for people to cure the provisional ballots in georgia under most states. If there's a problem with your ballot vote provisionally. You're allowed to cure it. If for example you show up and you forgot your driver's license for photo. Id they let you vote provisionally. Your ballot is stored in a in a separate location that you have to come back with your photo. Id to prove your identity they will then pull your ballot out in count. likewise With absentee ballots. They will go through in hand. Count the scantron machines. That's where it comes into into funniness of. How did people actually vote did they. Did they x through. Did they fill in the bubble completely. Did they fill in multiple bubbles out of the machine read them. They'll go through. They'll analyze those as well so we'll have a comprehensive hand count audit in the state. What is good about the hand count order to the state is we'll be able to see. Are the machines rigged. I'm seeing continuously credible. People say they. The machines are flawed. They think the machine screwed up. They think the machines through stuff to joe biden. The machines used in wisconsin and michigan or the same machines used in georgia. Georgia is one of the places that went to joe biden if the machines in georgia work. Well then we know. It didn't throw him to joe by now. I'm sure they'll be well. We gotta do this in wisconsin michigan. Well not really. Because you've already speculated that it's the machines in georgia that stole the race for joe biden if the machines in georgia didn't steal the race for joe biden will then the odds are they didn't steal it anywhere else. Counting in georgia gives people peace of mind. But wait you say what if the ballot actually did you voted on the touchscreen for donald trump and it spit out for joe biden and you passed it through the machine. Well that's on you. I'm sorry. I look at my ballot. When it comes out of the printer. I look at my ballot and make sure all the names or the names that i chose if you do that. That's on you. It's not all the state of georgia to say. Oh well i. We can't accept this ballot because this person may have intended to vote for donald trump but shows joe biden. Nope it's on the voter before you pass into the machine you got check. No one complained at the time that that happened. There's not a single credible complain in georgia of anyone. Who made this now. There have been people who complained but when they're polling precincts rest no one has any acknowledgement of the complaint neither the republican or the democrat Pull watchers in. Those areas have have have proof of the complaint. No one remembers it. I'm just not sure that we should take those sorts of things seriously. So we'll have an audit in georgia in. It'll be hand cal. And that's good secretary of state just ordering this at the state capital. Lemme go over here to the ajc see if we have some the by the way as an aside. There's an early poll showing tight races. Why should i believe the polls. I believe the polls look where got me. Hate mail from you people for believing the polls. I'm not sure we should leave the bull. How by the way as an aside question. Let's assume the only pollster credible as trafalgar trafalgar got some of them wrong as well you know. Trafalgar predicted the president would blow through the electoral college but he got north carolina right. He got pennsylvania right And so my question is if there are no polls anymore. How do we examine the race boat parade size car parade size yard signs number of yard signs. What do we do. How how do you cover an election. It would fund and this is. Why the media's not gonna get pulled driven narratives because it would completely change how you cover the election. The media's not comfortable doing the media would actually have to get educated on issues and spend time talking about how the candidates differ on issues as opposed to. Who's up who's down. The media in this country is not smart enough to do this. I mean when you when you're not smart enough to go to law school and you're not smart enough to medical school you go to school and you become journalists to columbia and then you go work for. Msnbc where you say things on here that you shouldn't say kim delaney and their national security correspondent dropped an f bomb on television. I got the video. I can't play it for you. I'd get taken off the plate for you. He's on cable he can get away with it. But if you're not smart enough to go to med school or law school you go into journalism and you lazily report a press releases from the democrats. That's what all the media does. Is they just read the press releases from the democrats. I mean the democrats like so many reporters out there right now. The mainstream media like muppets. Democrats stick their hands up. There recommend move their lips and just say whatever the democrats want him to say. It's like i mean kermit the ns nbc reporter. Miss piggy the the the the abc news correspondent. All the democrats. Today are saying you know. The election is not been stolen so we get clean. The president has to contain the election today and then they take their hand out the back side of the reporter. I mean that's that's that's what the media is. These days is to naga fers for the democratic national committee you. They don't have polls to guide them that they'll just be more democratic national committee stenographers so i guess we gotta let them cover the polls to try to analyze the election because they analyze the election. you either have. Oh well oh my goodness this actually says. The republicans are the lead. I guess we need to figure out why that is as opposed to the democrats whispering to him. The republicans will never win again. The actual funny thing about the polls though if you think about it from everybody. I'm talking to the republican pollsters. Were actually really good from everybody. I'm talking to the republican pollsters behind the scenes knew what was happening in those racists. It was the public pollsters and the democrats pollsters who screwed it all up and so you had the public poll and it was reinforced by the democratic pollster and so the media and the democrats never they literally did not see this coming. You know i. It's kind of a running joke. Among republicans that whenever democrats lose they never saw it coming this. They really literally never saw it coming. They really literally had no idea. The internal pulling the democrats were as bad as the public opinion polling and they had a feedback loop between them that affirmative buddy and i gotta be honest. I felt were. I tend to trust the pollsters. I know how the pulling industry works. I tend to trust it. They screwed it up. They screwed it up the new york times in opole one of the worst polls out there facebook should be banning any reference to the time. Siena poll is fake news. I mean the media wants facebook to block. Fake news and facebook needs to block the new york times political coverage because it was fake news but the republican knew it was coming behind the scenes. I'm not sure we got. We got an early poll of georgia's senate runoff. And by the pulling. George actually wasn't that bad. It's a republican leaning firm. And has kelly leffler at forty nine percent raphael warnock to forty eight percent with It has david purdue fifty forty-six with also i totally a hundred thousand percent. Believe that david produce over fifty percent right now you know. Here's the crazy thing. Is the public opinion. Polling georgia showed that Showed that david purdue or was not quite ahead of jon ossoff david purdue outperformed his polling also. We have brian kemp. The media polling shows that fifty percent of the public actually affirms fifty percent affirm that brian kemp has done a good job on covert. I know the internal republican pollsters. The ones who got all the elections right. They've got kemp about fifty seven percent approval. I think i'm gonna go with republican. Pollsters who actually showed that they're doing a good job but it's going to be amazing if the media decides they can't do public polling anymore. How are they going to navigate the election. I mean literally you're just gonna have them reading democratic press releases to try to shape reality. Hello there it is eric. Erickson here the eric erickson show. You can't call the phones or broken. Were trying to figure out how to get jessica anderson from the heritage a heard jackson on the program at the bottom. We will figure that. Even she got a call my cell phone. I i have this mixture that has a bluetooth thing so someone can call my cell phone and patch it through. We're working on it. We'll figure it out. We'll make it happen. In the meantime we got other news. We need to talk about friends. Mcdonnell's has decided to do a plant based burger. They're calling it the mech plant heck of a name their mcdonald's And i really thought they were joking and they aren't. Mcdonald's will test a meat free burger in several markets next year as it adds plant based menu offerings which it has coined mc plant international president. Iain borden said. The plant was created by mcdonald's and four mcdonald's board and said the mkx plant lying could also include chicken substitutes. Will you also get salmonella from the chicken substitute food poisoning from the mkx. Plant may has not yet disclosed the supplier for the line. A company spokesperson declined to identify the supplier but said mcdonald's will not be manufacturing the products they spokesman for beyond meat said the company co created the plant based patty that will be available as part of mick plans line shares of beyond rose as much as four percent in afternoon trading. Mcdonald's began testing meatless. Burger that uses a beyond meatless patty and several dozen on tarot restaurants. Of course the canadians are doing it. I when are we going to invade the worst thing about donald trump losing his. We will never get greenland now. Joe biden mill syringe of the polar. Bears i just. I look burger. King has the walker the meatless walker with the basel foods. I don't care if you want to eat them or not. Let me be clear here. If mcdonald's wants to go the failed route of all the other fast food chains that tried these abandoned them let mcdonalds mcdonalds seems to be increasingly mismanaged as a company. Sold my stock of the company but Abdominals by the way is mostly a real estate company anyway. But here's the thing it's not that i don't care whether you want them or not. It's that there are people out there. Like alexandria ocasio. Cortez who believe that. I should only be allowed to eat the plant based burger. I don't wanna eat the plant based burger. I w-what cow. If god didn't meet cow he wouldn't have designed and created a cow. God wants me to to to eat tasty in the words of my beloved seminary professor. I wouldn't worship a god. Who could need stake. I'm not eating the plant based burger. And i don't care whether you do or not but the fact that some of you care that i don't wanna eat the plant based burger is what outrages me you're going to try to force fetus vegetarianism heck no but then there's something else as well. What have we been told now for forty years for forty years. We have been told. Gosh i'm old. Because that's back in the seventies. And that's what i was born it nonetheless we've been told for forty years that the less processed food you eat the better. We're always shop the outside of the supermarket. I'll get the vegetables. Get the raw meat dairy in the eggs and go about your business. Don't don't shop in the center is don't go to the frozen food. Aisle is all over sodium. And it's two to manufactured. Just get your raw vegetables. Get you raw meat eggs and your milk and go home. That's healthy living. And now we're supposed to eat manufactured vegetarian food because it may be bad for us but we're gonna save the polar bears. I would rather save myself than some polar bear. That's gonna eat me for lunch. The the level of hypocrisy in this from the left is astonishing to me that we're all supposed to be healthy but in by not eating processed food but now we need highly processed synthetic meet with synthetic hemoglobin so that we can save the planet essentially. They want us to all die off so they can save the planet. It is a colt. It is environmentalism is a cult These people would rather save the whale than save the human being. They want all of us to abort our kids to save the planet. Thank you god. Made the planet for us. We're supposed to exercise dominion over it. I ain't going anywhere. And i'm sure as hell not eating plant out. Continue getting the burgers from a good hamburger place. Hello there it. Is eric erickson here across the state of georgia. There is breaking news. If you're just tuning in brad raffles burger. The secretary of state is ordering a statewide hand recount of ballots in georgia. Now how this works is they will count the presidential race if there is a major deviation in the presidential race from what the computer says to the hand count they will do a hand count of everything else. They suspect there's not going to be an issue So as long as there's no issue They will proceed. As if the electronic ballot stands the electronic ballot in the printout to align if there's a major deviation they then we'll do the hand recount of all of the races and that will be what governs. That's what's happening right now here in the state of georgia as we head to this recount or and then we head to a runoff in january. Now to talk about the run off. I gotta seeing jessica anderson's praises from heritage action Jessica you guys out there. And you may de-fund the police an issue and it turns out. It was one of the issues that persuaded a whole lot of hispanic voters. Young black men and others to move to the gop win. Everybody in the media said it was a nothing burger and wasn't going to be persuasive to anyone. Hi eric thanks for having me. you're exactly right. This issue of defending the police and whether or not elected officials will support law enforcement and called for safety and security in neighborhoods is a huge issue. Americans want safety and security. We've been saying it all year and it's clearly mattered at the ballot boxes as we look at these exit polls in particular. We know that it's moving voters Hopefully going to be enough with To pull people over to the conservative side of things for this runoff. Yeah i just. I'm we've got raphael warnock. Now in jon ossoff out there. Both of whom have affiliated with the de-fund movement ossoff has explicitly said defunding But were not cavs and has attacked police officers as dogs and other vile things about them. You got stacey. Abrams over the weekend after jim clyburn says that john lewis even said defunding. Police was going to hurt the democrats stacey. Abrams refuses to walk back from it. I think they've gotten themselves in a corner where they can't walk away from this issue. Let me take it even a step further. You know that we have been doing this. Police pledge which is a very simple commitment that elected officials on either side of the aisle can make which is to say that they oppose any effort movement bill or resolution to defend the police. We reached out in july two. Oh sauce and warnock asking them if they would make this commitment if they would sign the police pledge and they said no so. Let me break a little bit of news on your show to say that the commitment is not there for them to support law enforcement and i think this is a major problem for voters in georgia. I think it's a major problem for country. Because the issue of safety and security is supposed to be nonpartisan everyone wants to feel safe in their neighborhoods and we need law enforcement to do their job. They refuse to back the blue. And i think voters are going to hold them accountable for that at the ballots in january. I just i got the suspicion that they're they're going to and the data bears that out around even the state of georgia where republicans were expecting to lose a number of seats in the suburban atlanta area and they barely lost any seats while the democratic leader in the state house was picked off by the gop Now what so heritage action for if you're just tuning i'm talking to jesse anderson from heritage action The they're back. The blue campaign was deeply persuasive around the country Help pull a lot of voters into the gop. Now jessica what what. All is the role that her actions going to play in the runoff. Here in georgia. Well we know that the georgia runoff is really key to whatever majority is gonna take control of the senate. We basically are thinking of the seasons. The firewalls freedom. And it really comes down to whether or not we will hold the line if conservatives can hold the line against a liberal agenda rigging the senate to pack the courts implementing a radical green new. Deal supporting this de-fund. The police move at increasing taxes expanding government etc and so we are all in for georgia. We have announced that. We're going to do a pretty significant Ground game in the state. We're hoping to knock on Just over five hundred thousand doors do over a million phone calls a million get out. The vote text messages some digital ads all with the goal of get up vote and policy persuasion state. We think that policy issues matter that they animate who you vote for. And when you look at the greater atlanta metro area and suburbs those five eight counties. We see that there are pockets of voters that both need to be reminded of the issues at stake but then also encouraged vote. They're frustrated from the general. We're in the middle of the recount. We get all of that until we wanna give them an extra push to remind them everything that's at stake for this georgia run off and that's why we're going all in for the states for this really aggressive plan to talk to as you know as many voters as we can but the goal is over two million between now and when early voting starts on december fourteenth and then after that into january fifth deadline. Let me ask you a question here. the important question of the day if people want to get involved with jackson in y'all's effort of the state. What should they do well. We'd love your help so right now. We have a team of about three hundred. That started going door to door on monday. So we had fifteen thousand dollars. Monday another twenty yesterday. Were on track to hit today. I mean this is a significant effort. So if you're interested in helping there's a quick form that you can fill out on our website heritage action dot com volunteer. If you're outside of the state of georgia and listening in today you can help make phone calls. You can send text messages. You can donate any of that. All of that. Information is at our website heritage action dot com and throw it up on my twitter account now. So it's handy for everyone out. Just anderson to awesome well look Thank you for getting engaged here in the state. We need all the help we can get to make sure that we don't hand chuck schumer. The senate isn't that the truth. Who would have thought i mean. We all know georgia special. But it's even more special now. Absolutely just thank you so much It's always good to talk to you. Thanks for having me eric. Toxin absolute just anderson heritage action for america. We've got to save the senate in georgia and i look. The numbers are on the republican side. If they get their head in the game the the divisions in the state i suspect brad rapids burger is actually going to unite the party now by doing this audit. A lot of people are asking me. What about the audit. Let me explain how the the paper audit in george is going to work For those lot getting lots of questions on e mail right now my allergies. The phone lines aren't working so you can't call in and ask You can always email me eric. At the resurgent dot com that address will be changing soon. I suppose but still using it right now in georgia the secretary of state or hand recount. They will look at the presidential ballot line. The presidential ballot is where most of the votes in georgia are cast and so they will look at it. They will do a hand count in each county. You will have republican and democrat observers. Who observed the hand recount conducted by each county's board of elections. It will take time. It could take a couple of weeks to do. They will only count the presidential race. It will be an audit. The presidential race is the one that deviates from the others and by that i mean that in all major races in the state republicans one except the presidential race. It's the one that deviates from everything else that's why there are a lot of republicans who say that this is proof vote fraud because republicans did so well but the president didn't something must have gone on here so they will do a hand recount. The ballots in georgia are printed out by printer. You enter your data. Touchscreen is pretty by a printer. It shows who you voted for. It has a qr code. The machines scan the qr code. That's how tabulate the results so instead we'll ignore the qr code and we'll actually count who you actually listed on your ballot for president will do that across the entire state if it aligns and by the way there is a margin of error there will be some deviation from what the machine says more likely than not in the reason just human error when you count as long as it's in line statistically with what the machine says it may be off by couple dozen votes from human error as long as it's roughly in line with what the machine say will then we know that the machines weren't slipping votes accidentally or maliciously to joe biden. They will consider that audit then to be proof that the machines counted accurately they will not then count all of the other races on the ballot if however it turns out the machines really were broken or maliciously hacked and and screwed up the race will then they will do a hand count of every single race in georgia until they get proof of a real misalignment. They're not going to do that. They're going to just look at the presidential race. Once the presidential race is done. They will certify the results unless there's a massive deviation from the machines if there's no deviation the hand count has done they will certify the results the results will be certified based on the hand. Count not based on the machine count. They're going through the trouble. They'll use that. They'll certify the results. The results will be certified by the secretary of state's office and held for the electoral college. The electoral college will meet at the georgia state capitol on december fourteenth all of the electors of all the states will convene in their state capitals. the secretary of state's office will notify the democratic party and georgia to convene democratic electors instead of notifying the republicans. If joe biden wins the democratic electors will come to the state capital. They'll cast their vote for joe biden. They will certify it back to. The secretary of state will send the certification paperwork to the united states congress to be held in security until the new congress convenes. The new congress will open the ballots and count the votes for president of the united states. That will be the process So the the big budget ticket item for everybody here is that you're not gonna see them. Count every single vote for every single race. Now there are some people who say well. What if it was the david purdue race leffler as they got along. If the presidential race didn't get caught wrong then the other races more likely than not didn't get the presence races the only one people are worried about anyway. It's the one where people think that somehow the votes were or swap were sent over to joe biden appropriately. That's where we are in georgia. This is good news for a lot of reasons. The biggest reason this audit in georgia this manual hand count. Paper ballots is good. News is because multiple states use these machines and in each of those states. Joe biden one and in each of those states. There are voters who presume that the race was stolen for joe biden by the machines. Some people including thomas. What mcnerney the lieutenant. General is putting forward some theory that the cia or the clinton global initiative or some such. Apparently they're software on the machines that was militias and it. Cassie i it was. It was conjured up at least by the cia and somebody somewhere on the machines and it was designed to steal the election in the early. Vote for joe biden. Because you know one election day the president one in these states now. This is all crazy. Talk i don't know if this is an audition for trump. tv or what. Some of these people are putting out. But it's crazy talk but a lot of people believe it. There are a lot of people who are concerned about the machines because of a legitimate situation in wisconsin where it was shown that six thousand votes were shifted to joe biden. Now in wisconsin They actually have researched this and of said it was actually human error. It wasn't the machine error. But it raised suspicions about the machines so by willing to go through and do a handheld georgia's not only reassuring georgia voters georgia is reassuring the entire nation that these machines broken. Now you will still have people say well. We need to do this in each of these states. As well but georgia's order of the states that was expected to go to donald trump. The polling tended to show that the polling was that the election was going for donald trump. It's a republican state is it's the republicans did extremely well across the ballot. Republicans got over fifty percent statewide and in the legislative races and yet the president lost. So if you're looking in georgia and georgia okay. Then the odds are these. Other states are okay as well and brad rapids. Burger is going to be the hero for having resolved. Everybody's mind giving some people peace of mind that the machines aren't hacked. It's gonna take time though. You're going to have to be patient with raffles burger. I i have put off the story for two days and i this. This is just one of the greatest stories. Ever a georgia woman faces charges after police say she posed as a federal agent. A georgia woman faces charges after police say she posed as the federal agent and demanded free food from employees at a local chick-fil-a kimberly ragsdale forty seven of dallas. Georgia was arrested and charged with impersonating a public officer after employees dialed nine. One one followed her. Latest a- tipped latest. Who among us has it to score a complimentary meal from chick-fil-a according to arrest report she was booked november fifth into polk county jail released on three thousand dollars bail after day stint behind bars. Authority said ragsdale the ruse even as she was being arrested at one point pretending to talk into a radio supposedly hidden under her shirt and urging the fbi sin send someone to her aid. She claimed her credentials were electronic. Only when officers asked to see your id. We're thankful for the observed professional staff at chick-fil-a who knew what to do and gather the info needed for us to make our case. In catcher in the act said randy turner. The police chief we would like to inform citizens to call nine one one of someone's claiming to be an officer if they aren't marc car or proper uniform or they don't have credentials. Ragsdale had been trying to score free meals at the restaurant all week and threatened to arrest employees. Who refused request. The police chief added that officers appreciate free or discounted meals put will never make threats who among us hasn't pretended to be an fbi agent to score free food from chick-fil-a my pleasure who does this. There's a i mean. I'm assuming this woman eats some prayer and therapy to go through. Let's see can i find this woman. Mugshot kimberly ragsdale of dallas. Clearly i mean i i've got a. Oh oh really oh yeah. Okay yelp this. Is this this. This has crazy written all. Yeah this is crazy. Written all over it man. Yup there's no way this woman walks in to a chick-fil-a people that yep she's got. Fbi written all over her well. She may have. Fbi written all over in face tattoos. Nope she doesn't actually have faced. Tattoo she just she. This is a woman who looks like she's had a hard life and probably needs to prayer and now that i've seen her mugshot. I feel guilty for laughing. But oh my goodness gracious. Who does such a thing. I don't know i just i People are on hard times. Well i wanna come full circle because you need to be prepared. No we're not talking vote fraud. No we're not talking the we're talking. Coup people coup. We're talking military coup. The president of the united states is launching a military coup to hold onto power. At least that's what members of the mainstream media wants you to believe. I played this clip in the first hour. If you don't believe me. Listen we'll martha you covered washington. You've covered the pentagon for years. Have you ever seen an interim period like this at defense secretary out three more top pentagon officials tonight and if this is unsettling for folks at home. What are your sources telling you tonight. Is there any concern that this could put national security at risk given. No one has seen anything like this. There is concerned about what this means. Is the president planning a military operation or the use of federal troops which s spur opposed even mitch mcconnell praised expert today and republican. John cornyn a member of the senate. Gop leadership said of trump's decision to fire. Asper i don't think it helps him and i don't think it helps the country. Is the president. Planning a military operation is the president planning. Y'all if someone at fox news suggested this. Brian staedtler at cnn would have to change his britches. If someone at fox news suggested anything of the sort you would have a collective meltdown by the press has been bashing fox news for. Its coverage of of crossfire. Hurricane has been bashing fox news for its. It's giving the president airtime to talk about vote fraud and here you have members of in. It's not just martha raddatz. An abc news separately on msnbc. It's happening on cnn. That they they truly and genuinely believe that the president of the united states is gonna launch a military coup to stay in power. It's nuts. these people have come unglued. The president has broken so many people say the guy. Brian seller had on his show on cnn. Who said the prisoners killed more people than hitler he actually. This person said this seller. They pushed out the clip from cnn. They pushed it out. Put on social media. So i didn't hear it. Now listen i. I know how the media team works at at at cnn. Charlie plausible had a moment on cnn. One time where my earpiece got got cut off as someone said something bad about mitt romney's wife and i didn't respond to it and people got mad at me so i'm sympathetic. 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#EERS S10 Ep10: Surrender in the South

The Erick Erickson Show

2:04:03 hr | 8 months ago

#EERS S10 Ep10: Surrender in the South

"Hello and welcome. It is eric erickson here. The irks joe across the state of georgia. I hope you're doing well today. Oh my goodness okay. Oh i'm sorry i. I am distracted. Editing is this professionalism on radio or what i so. I just saw this clip. This is bizarre. I'm i'm kind of and my whole computer goes flaky with it as well. Which is hilarious In of itself so the fbi is continuing to round up people who were at the at the riots so to speak and they art well there. Let's just say they're getting help from people who were in the crowd. Let me read you though. One of the people has been. This is just bizarre Kevin lyons a capital rioter. Who was there. He is surprised that he's been arrested by the fbi. Poor kevin lyons some of these people. So kevin lyons is a is a capital rioter. Let's see Lions he's chicago man and kevin lyons express surprise. That officers had traced the picture which was only seen on social media briefly. And it was a picture in nancy pelosi's office and the caption was whose house our house. The forty year old technician was arrested by the fbi. Joint terrorism task force on wednesday in the jackson heights neighborhood. Lions appeared via telephone before magistrate. Judge gabriel fernandez. Who issued him a ten thousand dollar unsecured bond relating to two misdemeanor charges of entering a restricted building without lawful authority and violent entry and disorderly conduct on capitol grounds court documents in lyons had knowingly willfully joined crowd of individuals who unlawfully entered the us capital and impeded. Disturbed disrupted the orderly conduct of business. Investigators that are social media profiles included a screenshot of a map. Tracing the route from lions home to the dc area beside it was opposed that refused to tell my children that i sit back and did nothing to dc to stop the steel lions was interviewed by the fbi in chicago two days after the invasion and acknowledged he was in dc but was evasive about being in the capitol building lions according to the complaint though stated he one hundred percent guaranteed without incriminating himself that he saw nothing being damaged he further stated that in a dream he had he saw a lot of banging on doors or being thrown about in a mob of people police. Lions expressed surprise. That the photo of pelosi's office. I had been found on social media before telling officers. He couldn't guarantee he posted it. Court documents allege lions told officers. She had that photo on his phone before showing them to images and a video of people walking around what he what what looked like the capitol building. Lions allegedly attempted to wear a level. Three kevlar vest but was unable to fit it over sweatshirt. According to the affidavit lions said he entered the big boss office referring to pelosi who had approximately twenty to thirty other people inside before being ordered out by capitol police with guns drawn according to the complaint after exiting the capitol building lions stated. He went directly to his vehicle and left washington dc. Now now. i sale of that to set this up. A how did the fbi decided to arrest this guy fully. Are you ready for this Folks it takes all kinds. When asked if i'm reading now from the actual federal complaint against this guy when asked whether he was willing to give the fbi agents a copy of the video lions the the kevin lyons from chicago who says he was in the capitol building. Nothing no he. He couldn't be sure he was a little bit nebulous. He posted a picture. He took it down. The fbi was able to get it. Sounds like it was on parlor and they've got all this stuff He said he had a video. And let me let me just read this to you and ask whether he was willing to give the fbi agents copy of the video lion said the file would be too big and offer to upload videos to youtube and email the links to the agents trying to be helpful to the fbi on january nine twenty twenty fbi special agent land land received an email from an email address that included lions first and last names the email stated. Hello nice fbi lady. Here are the links to videos. Looks like the podium guy is in one of them less the podium. Let me know if you need anything else. Kevin lyons special agent. Land opened the first lincoln view the video which showed a large group of people out of the capitol building special agent land recognized the voice of lyon speaking throughout the video. The video was posted on lines youtube channel and was approximately ninety seconds in length. Special agent land opened the second lincoln viewed video of people walking in what appeared to be the capitol building special agent. Land recognize the voice of lions speaking through the video. The video was posted online youtube channel and was approximately three minutes. Fifteen seconds in length essay land opened the third lincoln video of a group of people walking in the rotunda of the capitol building that also was posted alliance. Youtube channel was approximately forty eight seconds in length so so just just to review here this chicago man who got arrested since the fbi drying to be helpful to them sit the fbi videos of him recording people inside the capitol after telling them he wasn't sure he was in the capital so he's now been charged with federal crimes This is this is recurring joe. I wasn't going to start here but it is worth noting. One person tied to antifa now has been arrested there. Well over one hundred people. One person tight to antifa all the rest are a right wing types and proud boys cunanan some trump supporters a lot of trump supporters. Who were in the building. There is an f. b. i. Report out or seed in report that suggests the fbi is looking into whether or not there were some planning. we will get into that later But ya know. This was not an organized event. And this poor guy wanted to go. Stop the steel. It was all over social media. Said he was wasn't going to tell his children. He did nothing to stop the steel. He was going to march on washington and he did and he videoed it all. Okay this is probably from my vantage point. This is the most unusual part of dealing with this nancy mace the congresswoman from south carolina. She has commented on this. There are a lot of good insincere. People they are defenders of the president. They're they're just they're all around good americans their the people. You would want watching your house if you were out of town through. The people you know would bring you soup if you were sick. But there's you you can't tell them that they're wrong because they get defensive and yet they. They're quickly falling into these beliefs. Like this was a antifa or event when it wasn't or that it didn't happen or that it wasn't violent or they're only a couple of people violent or or it. Just it's very odd. It's an odd time to be a life like the people you the other day. I mentioned that the pope has been arrested in the vatican by special agents Working on behalf of the president Uncovering a global a child human trafficking ring Pope francis was arrested the other night in the vatican a number of cardinals and and members of the heirarchy within the vatican were also arrested They've been tied to child porn on the internet spreading it Through vatican servers and a child Sex trafficking ring. None of that is true by the way none of it is true. None of it is true. Did not happen. The pope has not been arrested. Cardinals have not been arrested members of the vatican heirarchy of not arrested. There's not a servers. Vatican running child pornography. There's not a human trafficking ring sheild sex slaves run by the none of it is true and yet i can't tell you the number of people who have asked me about it because they've got loved ones friends. Family co workers talking about it. In fact i was at the gym. Yesterday i gotta tell you guys. I m my arms are killing me i you know i gotta work on the diet side of of of healthy living because i think i got the crossville down and it's gonna kill me but so the i was. I was at the gym. And what are the conversations before i got there was about. The pope had been arrested. Somebody saw tiktok video and The personal video was talking about the pope. Having been arrested for this child travel. No it's not true. It did not happen. And the latest is that the president is gonna shut down the federal banking system on monday on monday. All banks around the nation are going to be closed why it is to keep the a global elite from being able to flee the country. Why did they leak it. So they've got a head heads up to be able to get out of the country now. I have no idea. But on on monday federal banks banks local banks credit unions. The entire financial systems. Gonna be shut down. You're not going to be able to penny from your bank. Because the president's ordered it shut down on the nineteenth he will be arresting all of these people. And you better not go to the bank on monday. Because if you go to the bank on monday you try to withdraw. The feds are gonna know when they're going suspect you of being in this cabal that tried to launch this cool against donald trump. And he's going to arrest you on the nineteenth that he's going to be sworn in as president of the twenty th. This is literally what people believe. And i know it's crazy by the way all the banks will be closed on monday. It's martin luther. King junior dates a federal holiday. Of course all the banks are going to be closed but the these guys are circulating this on tiktok videos in back channels of the internet. And it's seeping out so some I forget the name of but as a christian evangelical group that has a big presence on facebook has been circulating. these and people have lost their damn minds. it's it's the craziest thing people are believing the stuff genuinely believe in it. I i don't know and it so here comes this guy and multiple people now. They go to washington. Dc and by the way it's worth noting overwhelmingly. The people who are in the capital were trump supporters and overwhelmingly. They were peaceful overwhelmingly. In fact you can watch the videos and you can see. They were following. They were staying within the boundaries. They were taking pictures they were just. They're chanting it was kind of like a city like you saw with capital stuff when the left did it. The problem is that it was illegal. Many of them said they thought it was a public building. They could be there. Tried at the white house and see what happens. Many of them are used to be able to go through the capital And go through the door. It's just it's it's fascinating to watch. People try to reconcile these things in their mind and people are rotting their brains as a result in this dude gonna go to jail because he videotaped it and and thought he was being super helpful to the hello nice. Fbi lady here are the links to your videos and then rats out podium guy. Hey that's podium guy doesn't have the podium but that's him i'm sorry kevin lion you're going to jail too by the way. What are the things the fbi is doing is they are concerned that there were people there who were pre plotting. They knew the president was pushing the rally. They knew it was going to be big. They knew the crowd was going to march on the capital. It was all said all of these. Things were advertised in advance. The president would be there. The marchers would march to the capital and it does look like some of them came prepared to use the crowd to gain entry to the building so that they could do violence in the capital and the fbi is charging basically everybody they can find who is inside the capitol. They're charging them so that they can then hold them and sort out. What was there. Essentially what are the fbi indictments. This is the most amazing thing. What are the fbi indictments says essentially. If you were in the capital they know who you are because your cell phone has given you away when you go in the us capitol. Your cell phone signature is scanned according to this fbi indictment and they know who you are and in fact now some of you are thinking. This is nonsense. I mean this is. Bs the the fbi statement says basically goal. This is not for you to turn yourself in. This is not a hey we know who you are. We've got your cellphone data whether we do or not it hoping that that induces you to turn yourself in. This is a we have the data. And we're coming to get you. You don't have to turn yourself in. We're coming to you. That is freaked out a lot of people but of course if you know anything about have you seen the new york times report a while back where they were able to track secret service agents you could see the secret service route that they were taking to protect the present when he was in mar-a-lago because cell phones sell the data and the government gets the data. Your your cell phone gives away. your cell. Phone is constantly peanin cell phone towers and so you can tell where people are based on three points three towers that are being to try to find the strongest signal. You can get a really good idea of where someone is and all the fbi has got to do is is is a line the cell phone signal to the account and the account to the account holder and they can come get you and new york. Times did a big story on this. I guess it was last year showing how easy it is to track a single person based on their cell phone and they used a secret service agent who works on donald trump's detail and they were able to show the entire route they took to the golf course how they came back where they stopped along the way and it worked out perfectly. They could pretty much figure out. Which secret service agent was by a couple of detours made It was it was astonishing. And that's what the fbi is doing so any of you listening to me right now if you were inside the united states capitol last week expected. Knock on your door soon. Amazing people didn't think that would happen. My buddy jeremiah. Just texted me during the break up to that last segment own Burner folds people burger phones. You watch all of these. Tv shows now all the crime shows all of the. I mean narcos and you name it and you get a burner phone. I can't believe people forgot that one little detail get your burner. Fold so the fbi trace you goodness gracious. Wow okay welcome back it is. You're a curator the full number by the way if you would like to be a part of the program today. Eight seven seven nine seven eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. It is friday so we'll be looser on the phones. If you get past the call screener but you know that callscreener. Sometimes he can be prickly you gotta be careful with him but nonetheless you can try to call in and get it if you want a what was i going to. Oh no no no no. We'll get back to where. I wanted to go because i got to spend time with this. The daily beast is engaging in cancel culture of matthew mcconaughey. the actor. Who's kind of had a resurgence of his career in the last few years. He's been in some really incredible movies. But matthew mcconaughey sat down with joe rogan and the the so. Here's the problem in the daily beast in particular has been doing this for awhile. The daily beast tried to cancel me a couple of times unsuccessfully. Although i think they did They did probably get me. Booted from tv shows After i said i would support the president. They made a big deal out of it. And and i was collaborating with nazis or some such for for supporting the president. But they've been doing this. Anyone who violates orthodoxy on the left is bad and must be shamed. And if you're in hollywood and you dare flirt with anyone on the right You must be condemned. and now. here's the other thing though. They're calling ben shapiro. And joe rogan. All right now. All right has a very specific meaning. It is people who are right of center on the political spectrum but tend to have views that violate conservative orthodoxy. So they're not conservatives they're a on the right in a different sort of way Very nationalistic Their pro big government. A lot of them probing help white's government And in ben shapiro. joe rogan. aren't there but matthew mcconaughey set down for joe rogan's podcast and so now he must be condemned in shamed for having that mcconaughey has actually been out talking about. You gotta understand people who voted for the president. They're not all bad. He's he's very anton in this regard he. These are good people. Many of them care about jobs in the economy. They care about getting back to work. They care about the government leaving them alone. They care about their local community and culture. They see the left trying to shame. And essentially what. The daily beast is doing is exactly what each mcconnell said the left is doing is wrong. Trying to say you can't engage with these people and then trying to amplify the nastiness of these people trying to say that been also right is typically Associated with anti semitic white nationalist to say that ben shapiro of all people is in. There is kind of its but they are to say the joe rogan. Who's just a a super. Socially progressive libertarian. Type he likes to smoke weed and just be left alone. Say that that he is there is nuts and now to attack. Mcconaughey the left wing. And you know they're going to amplify now. That biden is elected. They feel victorious. They had no. They didn't pay attention to what happened down. Ballot where all the republicans swept. It is very clear to me how i interpret the election that it was an anti biblical donkey election. People didn't like the democrats and cancel culture and burning down america. They didn't like donald trump being a jerk on social media so they threw molotov office in one of the no drama people that happened to be republicans. Angel biden no theft. The left doesn't understand that they're going to overplay their hand on this. They always do. Hello it is. Eric erickson here. The full number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five now. Okay so. I was thrown off. If you're just tuning in the beginning. I i had something i want to talk about. I had pulled up. And right before. I'm coming on air buddy of mine texas. Have you seen this. And so i started the show completely from somewhere where i wasn't going to go. Well now i need to go. Where i i should've started the show. This is the washington post. They've done the data dive now on the georgia runoff. And it is exactly as i told you it was and this isn't an i told you so moment. This is just a a you all thought this was probably the case and sure enough. It was historic democratic sweep in georgia's. Us senate runoffs rested in large part on half a million voters who stayed home on black voters who did not with control of the senate at stake following unprecedented campaign spinning and with both president trump and president elect joe biden rallying for support. Fewer people voted across the state. Run off soften draw fewer people in this time. The drop from the november general election amounted to about one voter in eight but turnout in republican strongholds dropped by more and differences across the state highlight the key role of black voters. Who powered the sweep in north georgia. And i'm talking all of north georgia now Across from floyd county essentially all the way over to Rayburn county and habash county in that area all across dalton blue ridge blair's ville hiawassee all of those northern counties. Republicans turned out with seventy five thousand fewer voters. Then the democrats. The democratic vote decrease seventeen thousand in the piedmont region and the republican vote increased decreased by seventy five thousand. That also happens to be where congresswoman marjorie taylor green georgia's maxine waters was telling everyone it was going to be stolen again. It was going to be stolen again. She was campaigning for kelly. Leffler and undermining leffler the whole time. David shafer the chairman of the republican party was undermining his party for two months. Donald trump the president of the united states. The leader of the republican party was undermining the republican party. The whole time it was remarkable genuinely remarkable all the way from north georgia down to south georgia. Republicans turned out less now. The only area where democratic participation dropped more than republican participation was the metro atlanta area in the atlanta suburbs. The republican drop off exceeded the democratic drop-off in what the washington post the black belt. It runs diagonally across the center of the state. From essentially bainbridge up to augusta the republicans dropped off more in the piedmont area that runs south of atlanta on through to augusta. The republicans dropped off more and then in north georgia. We're talking just just so you know we're talking Floyd chew walker. Dade kutuzov winfield gordon. Murray gilmer pickens dawson. Lumpkin fanning union white habersham stevens banks raven towns and hall county in bartow bartos. Well that area of the state turn out seventy five thousand less. Republicans then voted in the general election. it was actually the areas with the biggest drop. Offs were the areas with the largest concentration of republican votes the piedmont region which they classify essentially is Harrelson carol heard coweta. Fayette spalding butts newton. Morgan green walton. Clark oglethorpe wilkes elbert madison columbia mcduffie. Warren that area that area turned out tremendously less and the result is that the democrats won heavily just south of atlanta where the democratic area is majority. Black turnout dropped. The least in so atlanta gained influence in the runoff even as the atlanta area itself declined a little bit. Jon ossoff got a fifty five point win. Results show that republicans themselves suppressed their own vote. Republicans around the state chose not to vote. I'm scanning the data. I'm talking slowly. Maybe it's the speed that i should be talking about because of the I'm i'm looking at the data. Now let me get my calculator out. 'cause i wanna do this on the fly just so you have a sense of this. Two two six nine four two two two two one four zero six four. So jon ossoff beat david purdue by fifty five thousand three hundred fifty eight votes fifty five thousand three hundred fifty eight votes a half million people a half million people who voted in the general election stayed home of the half million people more than three hundred thousand of them were republican. Voters david purdue and kelly leffler should have won but the republican voters chose not to show up. It is exactly as everyone said could happen. And you know. I gotta say i i was wrong. I don't like to be wrong being married though. You kind of get used to it. Let's be honest. But i was wrong. I really didn't think republicans would internalize the nonsense that the election was stolen and it turns out across georgia particularly in north georgia. Where the calls were most vocal. The republicans were in fact. Suppressing their own vote when the president went to dalton georgia the night before the runoff of the reason was because the data was showing that those voters had not turned out at the rate they needed to turn out and they were hoping to mobilize a north georgia voters. It did not work and you know it is worth naming names. I think Marsha taylor green the current congresswoman for north west georgia georgia. Fourteen campaigning with leffler endorsed. Leffler cunanan run around the state telling everybody that the general was stolen and if they didn't fix it the runoff was going to be stolen blaming. Brian kemp blaming brad. Raffles burger i. The president deserves a massive amount of blame. Here for talking republicans voting. Even as he came into the state the president his message was they're going to steal it. Go vote not a compelling message and i do think dave schaffer of the chairman of the republican party here in georgia deserves a whole helping to blame. He's been awful quiet since the runoff. You'll notice for two months. David shafer on social media and in the press has been telling people that the race was stolen. They were gonna steal it again. It was all brad raffin burgers fault. He danced around the governor in public and private Was telling people. He didn't have an obligation to help the governor or the or or brad rapids burger That hit call leaked when he was telling people that multiple people have confirmed for me that he had no interest in defending the elected. Republicans in the state though. He is the chairman of the republican. Party georgia these bit too much. Talking people out of voting. He's bit two months telling him The election was stolen. He spent two months Spinning to take the take the blame of himself. And i think this is really important for people to understand and i want this. I want this out there. For the republicans who say the absentee balloting process was flawed. The republicans could have participated in the signature review. And they did not and that is on david shaffer for the republicans who say the voter rolls were bad and people shouldn't have voted. That's on david shafer in the republican party because they could've contested voters. Georgia law gives voters the right to challenge other voters in the republic. Party of georgia could have overseen that and they did not. The republican party could have gone in and challenged absentee ballots. And they didn't. They didn't do that before the general election and so to escape blame. And that's what this is to escape blame. After the general election is over david shaffer and the republican party did a massive media blitz and a social media campaign to everyone who was stolen paid no attention to them dropping the ball pay no attention to them not doing all of the things they could have done. Pay no attention to them with a botched ground game. Pay no attention to all of that. The race was stolen and they threw brad. Raffin burger the republican secretary of state under the bus. And they didn't want to defend brian. Kip and the result. Is that when january. Fifth showed up my goodness the republican party in georgia's telling people the race was stolen. And it's going to be stolen again. The president is telling people the race was stolen is going to be sold again. Republicans thought why bother why bother voting the republican party of georgia as an entity deserves. Blame for what happened. On january fifth and by the way it republicans in washington agree the republicans in washington. One hundred percent. Say the republican party in georgia. Talking down the the election plane up solo election had an issue. They blame the president. They blame david shafer. They blamed the republican party. The issues will georgia republicans clean up their mess now. I suspect what's going to happen. Because the fact is the race wasn't stolen november even as as the republican party here claims it what you will see our members of the legislature make a few tweaks to the voting laws and say. Hey we fixed it. They've got to do some level of kabuki theatre but so many republicans clearly internalized the idea that the race was stolen. The republicans have to do something the elected republicans have to do a dog and pony show for those voters who are convinced despite no evidence. They're convinced that the race was stolen. They're convinced there was massive vote. Fraud they gotta do something to to allay those concerns so those people many of them were really honest about it. A lot of the people who are convinced that there was massive vote fraud in georgia. They know deep down. That's really not true but just like when their football team loses and they blame the refs in on it for the other side. They've got to believe that the republican legislature has do. Psychologically they've got to give them a little bit of something so you'll get it fixed. I believe you. They're not going to be able to steal again. I'll go vote. Because the data shows that the republicans should have won the data shows. The republicans outnumber the democrats. The data shows the republican voters overwhelmingly stayed home in the runoff. The data shows that this state is still republican as long as the republicans. Vote so what you're going to see now. Very predictably over the next year and a half as members of the media and democrats working together are going to try to exacerbate the tensions within the republican party between the trump and the non trump republicans. They're gonna do their very best. I suspect here's one of my predictions of this year and a half. Is that david. Shafer the chairman of the party who has been trying to deflect blame everywhere else and be very combative with anyone who points out how his republican party screwed up. I suspect he's probably going to run for office again. And he's probably going to do so on the mantle of trumpism. He's probably going to be one of the people whose zia was stolen. And i'm going to run to fix it now. I'm for donald trump. Look look what i did. For the president for two months he essentially sabotage the republicans. In georgia. Kelly leffler david purdue and will use that as proof of his trumpism which i guess shows that it is. The party itself needs to do something. The party itself needs to clean up its house. You can't just have members of the republican legislature do of minor fix without fixing the party. The other thing they probably need to do. And i've been opposed to this in the past. But i think this probably needs to be done stacey. Abrams has this massive array of outside groups that she's built up and coordinated with in they all coordinate with each other in various ways Sometimes right up to the boundaries of the law. The governor needs to be able to set up a super pac. Now the governor of georgia. Brian kemp needs to or whichever. If if if he's challenged someone beats him. That person needs the ability to set up a super pac to bypass the gop together. Nathan deal in. Sonny perdue largely used a hand chosen people to steer the gop for their success at the expense of the rest of the party in the state. At this point. I think the gop needs to allow all the governor to set up an entity or whoever the republican nominee is for governor. I assume it'll be. Brian kemp to run his campaign free from the shackles of a republican party. That has sabotaged the republicans in georgia. He's going to need outside into help. and the gop georgia's proven itself to be an incompetent entity until they clean house None of us should really want anything to do with the state. Gop at this point until they clearly show that they're cleaning up and i don't think they can do that until they've got a new chairman at this point. Hello there it. Is eric erickson here. The full number if you want to be part of the program. Eight seven seven seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five i. I got a There's a website the institute on religion and democracy. Mark tooley as written a piece in. And i think It is worth noting jake jelly. He's the cunanan man who has insisted that the federal government give him only organic food in a federal judge has said okay now. He's apparently i. You know we were laughing about that. I was left with The owner of the cross Yesterday that The of course this guy appear sees appears to be in cross fit and and The shaman esque a religion. Ease in colts I don't have enough time for the cross fit colt this guy's in two of them and he only eats organic food. He says Because he's got to ward off evil spirits and it is part of his religion. Judge said okay. And i just gotta read you part of this with his horns and animal for jake. Jelly also known as the cunanan shaman is one of the more high profile now arrested invaders of the. us capital shamans or pagans in touch with the spirit world. This particular shaman is especially in touch with the spirit world of cunanan the popular conspiracy network that motivated many who attacked the capital. Cunanan like many pagan spirituality. Promises special insider knowledge in prophecies to its believers who are a self selected elect as my jewish friend. Jonathan silver and mosaic noted pagan is an apt description of the all photographed rioter who has become the face in the symbol of the day. The man is apparently known as q chaman. He's sauntered into the capital draped in an animal. Hide bare-chested in covered in tattoos. His face painted in wearing animal horns on his head. He doesn't look like a european barbarian by accident. No he is intentionally invoking. The unconstrained ethic power that in europe christianity sought to tame and the west judaism and christianity of taught us that every woman and man is created in the image likeness of god without that fundamental truth no american committed to civic legal equality can long endure. We're seeing that proposition prove daily. Mark tooley rights. Many commenters have -scribed january. Six capitalists all to christian. Nationalism in the charge is not unfair. There were christian flags and symbols among the attackers. No doubt some of the attackers are sincerely religious. And believe themselves to be christian. Many perhaps actually our christian faith by itself does not promise wisdom prudence and christians. We know can defy the teachings of their faith and commit grave depravities that rank with any pagans if not worse but a silver notes. The thrust of the capital assault was a post christian neo pagan will to power based on cultural and racial identity. The proud boys a sect of men who claim they're defending western civilization played. A prominent role libertarian sickly fair. The proud boys exalted pagan form of masculinity and strength at odds with jewish and christian understandings about protecting the weak and vulnerable and their sense of grievance. They claim superiority in contrast the. Us capital is a temple to america's commitment to liberty and equality. Those concepts are rooted in the bible's assertion that all are created equally by god all equally bear. His image all merit dignity before their creator. And all we'll be judged by his righteous standards jewish and christian universality rejects pagan tribal deities. Under whom some people by virtue of birth or race or suppose special merit or more valuable than others scrape read Really makes a good point here about what we're seeing and a lot of people were claiming some sort of they're using and this is what the cunanan people do it's a form of narcissism nastase is essentially at birth was a view that the apostle john and others had to start pushing back against and i believe it was was In his history of the early christian church noted that After the apostle john died in one hundred ad the church went from having to defend the deity of christ to resolving that there was no hidden message of pushing back against the heretics essentially. And we're seeing this in this day and age that the The people the nas ticks cunanan people. They claim some sort of special hidden message. And they're peddling conspiracy theories that don't hold water. They used christian rhetoric to draw in people from the church and they seep into into congregations into the middle class particularly older voters seem to be more vulnerable to older people. Not voters seeming more vulnerable to it. Like for example. The room that the pope was arrested. Now i i've written about this this morning and i know a lot of you have heard because you've been calling the show. Asking was the pope. Arrested are is the banking system going to be shut down. And so i've written about this shirt with your friends and family if you text the word data to three three seven seven seven. I'll send you back the link. Text the word data to three three seven seven seven. And i'll send you back lately. You can share with your family and friends if they are if they think. The pope has been arrested. They think the federal banking system is about to be. Shut down kind of explain. What's going on in this piece kind of based on the whole i- idolatry mythology cosmogonies stuff. I talked about the other day. The big words. See it for yourself. Texts data to three three seven seven seven when we come back. Let's review biden's plan when running a business. Hr issues kin kill you. Wrongful termination suits minimum wage requirements labor regulations and hr manager salaries are cheap and averages seventy thousand dollars a year. Bambi spelled b. a. m. b. e. was created specifically for small business. You get a dedicated. Hr manager you craft hr policy. Maintain your complaints all for just ninety nine dollars a month with bambi. You can change. Hr from your biggest liability to your strength. You dedicated hr manager's available by phone by email real time chat from on boarding determinations they customize your policies to fit your business. They help you manage your employees day by day for just ninety nine dollars. A month mocked him with no hidden. 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It's my fault but one of the things you can do if you go to show dot com up at the top and live so you can listen to the livestream There's the podcast but you can get us. If you've got to listen to his later you can get the podcast. But and then there's the read button and if you click it You will see the stuff. I've been writing and you'll be able to get everything there. What are the ones. I want to call out. You very quickly is. I've gotten a lot of requests to essentially turn something. I talked about on radio into something in writing so people can share it. If you will recall the other day in trying to explain what's going on to you. I talk to you about how people when they give up on religion. They essentially turned idolatry and they need a mythology to correspond with their idolatry and mythology ultimately leads them to needing a cubs module. That is a theory for the creation of their universe. And we see this with cunanan. All the crazy conspiracies that people are coming up with now that the pope was arrested. The banking system is going to be shut down there. There's going to be in. You need two week's worth of food for the next couple of weeks All of this stuff now. Here's one of the things that that is interesting. So you notice a i wanna i wanna just wanna connect a couple of dots for you in the last week or two. You've started hearing this rumor that you need a couple a week's worth of food stockpiled and people are freaking out about that. We've gotten calls into this program for people in what what on earth is going on. Well it comes at the time of year that emergency preparedness services police departments around the nation and the like remind people that winter weather could come. And you need to make sure you've got canned goods and have two weeks worth of food for everybody in your house. It happens every year. The gwinnett county police department in georgia. Sit out a tweet. The other day that remember make sure you have two weeks worth of stuff in your house In case there's a disaster you need enough for each member of your family. Don't forget your pets Make sure you have canned goods and things like that I in prepare and that was taken by a lot of people. Who've heard these conspiracies as proof that the police know what's going to happen well every year at this time police around the country do this. So whoever's concocting the conspiracies knows enough about these patterns and behaviors to build a conspiracy around it. Get it out there. In advance of wind police in the disaster preparedness in the fema people start circulating this for winter storm advisories. And that's what it was about the net county police actually came out and said no. We do this every year. Winter storms come in january and february. And that's what we do around the country and and so clearly. Whoever started the conspiracies online knows the sort of stuff. Is building the conspiracies to win the police come out and say hey stock up on canned goods prepare for disaster up your i must be trail. It's common no. They just planned in advance so this past week into the beginning of this week. What we've heard is that next week on the eighteenth. The president's gonna start shutting down the federal banking system. You need to withdraw money now because on the eighteenth the president's gonna shut down banks to keep the global elite human traffickers of children from fleeing the country after having stolen the electoral college. He's now got the proof that he's coming for them on the nineteenth. He's going to arrest them. All anyone who tries to go to the bank on the eighteenth is going to be flagged. So don't go to the bank on the eighteenth Because you'll be flagged as part of it you'll be under suspicion and they may come for you to and then on the twentieth. We're going to have inauguration day. Actually the banks are going to be closed on monday. Because it's martin luther king junior day. So who's ever seen the conspiracies knows this in. It's it's. I'm suddenly mindful of the fact that whoever is doing. This is clearly a smart person. Maybe it is the russians. Maybe the chinese. I don't know but it's getting into right wing channels in its freaking people out and we're getting tons of phone calls here but it all goes to idolatry mythology. I about it the other day on the radio. I'm not going to repeat that what i want to tell you though is if you text the word data to three three seven seven seven i will send you back a link to what i wrote on this piece about cosmology and mythology and adultery. And where the hell are these conspiracies coming from you. The latest also is that the pope was arrested. The pope pope francis yes that pope absolute monarch of the vatican was apparently arrested by american special forces for participating in a global child trafficking ring. Not true you'd be stunned at the number of people who believe it particularly fifty and older. And i really do believe it comes back to this idea that if you're a young person you see slickly package stuff online. You don't really believe because you're used to seeing tiktokers step chats and instagram and stuff but if you're older you connect high production quality to news and news to fact and so you're oh it must be true. Look at the quality of the video. They spent so much actually no. It's really easy to do these days for very cheap on an iphone and yet the older you are you seeing your like. It must be true. It looks like sixty minutes. So text the word data to three three seven seven seven Get that piece. Read it digested Give it to your friends and family who were buying into all this stuff. No the pope was not arrested. Now Because i wanted to talk about this issue i'm gonna kick it off with a phone call calling. Oscar is calling oscar. Welcome to the program. Reading says yes welcome. I have a question on this Is this proposed biden gun tax going to be a one time thing or an annual thing find the where i have seen it in two different places and they've changed the biden white paper and we're usually on biden's website. They laid stuff out and it was going to be an annual tax But the latest. That i've seen is that is going to be a one time tax. A lot easier was annual. But yeah so. So here's what here's the proposal One of the things. The biden campaign wants to do to try to fund some of their spending programs. Is this gun tax. And what essentially they're going to do is they will require you to be in a national gun registry and pay five hundred dollars a yeah no two hundred dollar two hundred dollar tax on the purchase of any long barrel gun or any magazine that holds more than ten rounds. It'll go into a database. And if you don't pay the tax or you don't comply with the database you will get charged with tax evasion. Not not of not Anything violent gun ownership. It'll be tax evasion. The original plan was to make it an annual fee that you would have to pay to drive up the cost My understanding is is a lot of people on the left and the right. Don't think the federal courts would go along with that they would say it's unconstitutional To continually tax on your right to keep and bear arms would be constitional but you can have essentially national sales tax on the purchase of a gun or a magazine. And you can. There's nothing unconstitutional about creating a database to track gun ownership. So that's the plan and they'll be able to do it with even with the filibuster because georgia republicans didn't show up now if if you're if you're angry with me for saying that Multiple outlets from the atlanta journal constitution to the washington post of done a deep dive in the data Five hundred thousand people did not show up in the runoff who showed up in the general More than three hundred thousand of those were republicans and often warnock won by about fifty sixty thousand votes so Yeah the gop surrendered. And now they're gonna get gun tax and now they're going to get a national gun database. What happens with reconciliation and this is important because he gets to joe. Biden's plan Joe biden last night gave an address where he said he wants to essentially do a one point nine trillion dollar package for coronavirus relief. That's going to of course raise the debt could cost us on interest rates and But he wants to do a fourteen hundred dollar spending plan or fourteen hundred dollars to families now. People are outraged over this right now on the campaign trail here in georgia right. Before the run-off joe biden came to georgia and said I'm going to give a two thousand dollar check. All families are going to get two thousand dollars as part of corona virus last night. Joe biden said fourteen hundred dollars and some on the left are livid about it. They feel betrayed. The rationale from the biden team is that will they just got six hundred dollars. The gop released six hundred dollars. Joe biden wants to thousand total. So give them another fourteen hundred dollars. That equals two thousand dollars marco. Rubio say no. It should be two thousand. You've got the democrat progressive. Saying it should be two thousand dollars. You got a lot of republicans one point nine trillion dollars what he wants to fund a federally the vaccine expansion. He wants to give money to schools to give them back open and and sanitize them and all of that. He wants to expand the Extra unemployment benefits that gonna run out march. He wants to do all of these things now. Some republicans who for four years have been probably spenders already saying the debt and deficits. The we knew that was gonna happen. They've destroyed their credibility on the issue. Honest to goodness. I believe the debt and deficit matter. And i have blasted president trump and the republicans for their big spending but to see some of these republicans in congress who for four years have been willing to spend anything nelson ob. Sorry we've got a national debt to worry about. You didn't care when your side was in control of the white house. Why should we believe you now does matter and in fact some analysts are coming out and saying this is going to hurt us wants this. Big spending goes into effect. It's going to negatively impact the economy and pro potentially slow it down When right now. Some economists are the unique could see an explosion of growth. This could hinder it but this is what the biden he wants to do. Massive spending the democrats are now saying it's just too much and the Republicans are saying. It's it's not an. I'm sorry the democrats saying it's not enough. Republicans are saying. It's too much. Except marco rubio wants two thousand dollars and in fact rubio is out saying the two thousand dollars now and let's hammer out the rest of this package but do two thousand asap. And i don't know that he's going to be able to get it done. The president-elect donald the marco rubio is going to be able to get it done. But i got i gotta tell you guys. Our national debt. I think is still a big issue. I want to play for you when we come back. Some audio from Jerome powell at the federal reserve. Who doesn't seem to think right now. It is that big of an issue. But i've talked to so many people who point out if interest rates go back up it is going to kill us. It is a national security issue at this point and neither side really takes it seriously and the democrats solutions. Let's just raise taxes on the wealthy. The republican side is. Let's grow our way out of it. The problem for the democrats is you could raise taxes to a hundred percent of this country and and not make a dent in the deficit little the debt. The republican problem is if we keep adding to the debt. We're not going to be able to grow our way out. It becomes very difficult to charter way. Forward barring some sort of global catastrophe where everything in the financial system resets and nobody should want that high there. It is your your ex in here. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. I wanna play. Mario from jerome powell of the federal reserve. Listen to this okay. So to start with public debt in monetary policy. So i would say first of all the. Us is not on a sustainable. Half at the federal government level in the simple sense that the debt is growing substantially faster than the economy in that means by definition on sustainable. That's not to say that the level of gay is unsustainable and it's not it's far from unsustainable and so i. I think we're a long long way from fiscal dominance in the united states. If we ever get to that place in it certainly is not a factor that we consider any way at this time. So i'd public debt no way in beck's monetary halsey now we. We are squarely focused on serving the public your new framework to achieve maximum stable prices. I my strong view. Is that central bank. Independence is an institutional arrangement That has served the public wealth. And i think it is every advanced economy. Democracy around the world has a central bank independence. Institutional arrangements differ. But i believe it is sort of i. I frankly think that is well understood. among elected representatives and I i don't i i think. On both sides of the aisle people do understand that e that that having an independent Central bank really does help particularly in times of crisis. But also just through the business cycle where you can. You can really focused on serving. All of the american people ignore political considerations completely. I guess so but you know i. It is good to keep the central bank on a political decisions. I know people are skeptical of the federal reserve. I myself but at the same time. I also think we do need to keep in mind that having the massive amount of federal debt we do have a we gotta we gotta figure out a course. Moving forward and powell also said he's not planning on raising interest rates anytime soon just reminder. I want to play just a little bit of this from squawk box on. Cnbc looking at biden. One point nine trillion dollar spending plan. What can happen look at right. You look at a long duration bonds which obviously yoga's has come up so when you look at it from the standpoint of where binds work at sixty bits. Not too long ago. Two hundred twelve dips where there are today. That shows that there's been a substantial move up and a substantial steepening which of course helping a banks But at the same time you know you're seeing other factors like marketing is consistently and more and more stimulus being fed into the market. So i think there's there's a number of factors taking hold today and the markets trying to figure out which narrative that they should go with and for the past months almost in a straight line. It's been It's been off in terms of equity markets. I think what ends up happening is you know will be built into the market and will eventually we start to see factors of inflation. Take hold and those are the things i think that pop. Yup it bubble yet in other words biting spending plan dumped so much money in We're gonna see the bubble pop. That's david new hauser. He's the managing director livermore partner Talking about the effects of this one point nine trillion dollars playing the market you know has fully recovered and exceeded that massive drop from february march So i use robinhood. And i. I've been Robinhood it's a. It's an app that lets you essentially Looks like the market. The market's going down today. e- the the app. Lets you buy and sell stock. Pretty quickly actually It's it's actually a pretty i. I've enjoyed usually the problem for some people. I think you could get addicted Because it makes it so easy to buy and sell stock and also to buy and sell cryptocurrency. I i've got a little bit of crypto like theory. 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'cause i don't have time in the day at this point to keep up with stocks but i do know if you if you throw two trillion dollars basically into the economy you're gonna cause at some point and inflationary problem and that's going to have a massive ripple effects in the economy and it's not good but republicans have no credibility on this message more and that's part of the problem here is there aren't a whole lot of us who have been consistent on this across partisan control of the white house but it does matter. We can't escape that elo there. Is there here extent here. How would you like to call the program you. Can we take your phone calls. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five Listener debbie writes in you know the two trillion dollars is just the opening bid Can you spell bankrupt. Yes yes It is it's going to be Not good not. It's going to be not good. I want to shift gears here and talk to you a little bit about the the sea in in report on the fbi. The fbi is report. See cnn is reporting. The fbi says it is looking to see if parts of the capital may have been Preplanned and trump supporters are using this as a story to absolve the president trump. Critics are using it as a way to condemn the president. Before i get straight there. I need to bring you an update That is breaking right now. Federal prosecutors offered the most chilling description yet of rioters who sees the capital last week. Writing in a court filing that just appeared that the intention was quote to capture and assassinate elected officials. The view was included in a memo seeking to keep jacob. Anthony chan's lee who rallied people inside the capitol using a bullhorn in detention. According to capitol police information included in the filing chancellor was notable for his headdress face paint and carried a six foot spear strong evidence including chan's lease words. This is the cunanan shaman. Strong evidence including channels own words and actions of the capital supports. The intent of the capital rioters was to capture an assassinated elected officials of the united states government government. Prosecutors wrote allegations written by justice department lawyers in arizona. Come as the government has begun describing an alarming terms what transpired in a separate case. Prosecutors in texas court alleged that a retired air force service who carried plastic zip tie restraints on the senate floor may have intended restrained. Lawmakers chancellor is due in federal court today for a detention hearing. He loved trump every word he listened to him. He felt like he was answering the call of our president. His attorney al watkins Period on cnn said my client wasn't violet. He didn't come over any police lines. You didn't assault anyone. Watkins said chan-lee hoped for a presidential pardon. Prosecutors described those who took over the capital insurrectionists in offer new details about chancellor's role in the violent siege last week including that after standing at the da's were vice president. Mike pence it's to that morning chancellor wrote a note saying it's only a matter of time. Justice is coming chance later. Told the fbi did not mean the notice a threat but said the vice president was a child trafficking trader and win in a long diatribe about pence biden and other politicians as traders before he was arrested he told the fbi wanted to return to washington for the inauguration of protests prosecutors accused chancellor of being a flight risk who can quickly raise money through nontraditional means as one of the leaders of mascots of cunanan group commonly referred to as a cult. They also said chancellor suffers from mental illness and is a regular drug user. According to the prosecutors memo. That's happening now Th the related report to this from cnn is that the fbi is looking into whether or not there was pre-planning the protests. Let me because neither side wants to talk to each other anymore. Let me give you how both sides see this report according to the fbi. It does appear that there were people who plan preplanned the attack and left early from the president's speech to go get their guns in zip ties and other things in headed to the capital waiting for the crowd to arrive a bunch of president. Trump's supporters have sent me that and said it is proof that the president is not implicated in this that these people were planning this ahead of time and because they were planning ahead of time You can't implicate the president unless the president was involved directly in the planning and the president wasn't involved in their planning this operation therefore he's innocent. Trump opponents are circulating. This and what they're saying is that for two months. The president seated the lies The president for a month was organizing this rally and putting on twitter that the rally was coming in show up in washington and then stood there and said march on the capital to the extent. The president wasn't collaborating with the planners. Very few some of them are suggestive or a few of them are The planters knew what the president was going to do and origin them to march to the capital new. The president was going to slight the match. And you can take advantage of it there. You have it just so you know. Those are the two sides of it. yes i think that If this is planned the republicans in the senate will be able to say look. Clearly the president didn't know had no reason to know in was not involved. Democrats will say well. He absolutely had reason to know in and and should have known it was gonna happen but there's something that everybody is missing on all sides all the people sending me. This is a tori all the people circulating online as damning. The fbi is looking into this. It's not definitive. The amount of people on both sides who have read this report is being definitive no To some degree and in was a little bit irresponsible. And how it wrote it. They should have made that upfront. The fbi is looking into this allegation. The fbi is looking into allegations that members of congress led tours to some of the planners of this two days before it actually went down. There are all sorts of allegations being circulated. But that's what's happening here. This does not mean the fbi has settled on this. It means the fbi is looking at it honestly You know there's there's a bit of humor and irony here in the number of people on a daily basis. Who attacked me for citing. Cnn is a source and then when this f. b. i. Report came out from cnn. An cnn report that the fbi was looking to this. The number of the very same people who on a daily basis slam cnn's they look look look he's innocent. He's innocent sculpture exculpatory. And you know the same thing happens on on the left. There's a report out fox news pointing out that most of the people involved Actually we're not antifa but they were maga- related but one antifa guy has been charged now and the left which hates fox news and wants to do. The even fox news has reported the raid fox. News fox is saying this. Of course people the right now are angry with bucks. They're still angry with fox for doing nothing other than calling arizona in any event That that's the lay of the land on the fbi story. It is not confirmed in my mind. it does actually provide a measure of padding on the president That these people were organizing ahead of time they wanted to storm it But there is merit to the argument as well that they knew what the president was going to do. It's gonna watch people into a frenzy and the bottom line from even a couple of republican members of congress is that for two months republicans including the president and his lawyers lied to people that the election was stolen for two months. They lied to people. They said there was massive fraud. While the president's lawyers including rudy giuliani were going into federal courthouses and affirming that there was no fraud. They were holding. Press conferences saying there was massive fraud and it was stolen and that is inexcusable in my mind just in objective fairness here. What you say in court has consequences. If you go into court and you lie you can be charged with perjury. If you go into court and you're a lawyer and you lie you can be disbarred. In addition to going to jail you can lose your entire career. So i have always found it. Notable that in the sixty three cases filed by the president and his team They have never once claimed fraud. And in half of those cases they have specifically denied voter fraud here in georgia. They win in claiming massive amounts of of inappropriate votes and they dismissed the case. The president's team the court threw out the presence of lawyers dismissed the case. There are so many people who including here georgia who are convinced that the race was stolen in general. They didn't show up here in georgia on january. Fifth five hundred thousand didn't show up. They thought the race was stolen. And the president's own lawyers would not make that claim in court. They had no evidence now. They were holding press conferences claiming massive amounts of evidence. I still think the striking one that goes under the radar as is the case in michigan. Where a trump appointed federal judge indisputably conservative pro. Maga- guy gets on the bench. The president's team makes all these claims about fraud. The guy says bring me all of your evidence will have a hearing in two days and two days later. The president's team comes in with stipulated facts agreed to with the other side. If you're claiming fraud you don't have stipulated. Stipulated facts are where you come into court in both sides. The defense in the plaintiff. They agree on all the facts and one of the facts that the president's lawyers agreed to after a week of telling people. There was massive fraud in michigan. Here comes a federal judge. Saint bring every single claim you've got we'll consider all bring any witnesses you want get asked me for any subpoenas you want. I'll give you whatever you want so that you can improve your fraud and two days later. The president's lawyers come in and agree with the democrats. Who are the defense team. That there was no fraud in michigan. How many of you think there was fraud in michigan. I bet a lot of you do. And yet the president's lawyers when given the opportunity to show it or to even ask for subpoenas to go try to prove it come into court was stipulated fact saying there's no fraud here very similarly. The situation played out in in wisconsin and pennsylvania. Both of which in some of the cases had trump appointed judges and they couldn't get any they couldn't find any fraud same in arizona couldn't find any fraud. It's remarkable how many people have internalized. The election was stolen and yet the president's lawyers have never been able to produce evidence. You know even here in georgia. I've asked repeatedly. Just give me the names. I was at elections lawyer. I know how to do this. I can look at the voter registration rolls. Give you the names. No one's giving me the names. And he had people internalized it and they didn't go vote now. The democrats are going to be in charge of the senate. Fun times Fun times what a crazy world. We live in related to the democrats. Taking a lot of people have asked me about this gun tax. Let me explain to you. What i my understanding of the gun tax as going to be proposed now that the democrats control the senate my understanding based on what is being floated right now is that there will be a one time tax of two hundred dollars per long barrel right essential rifle or shotgun or in two hundred dollars per magazine that holds more than ten rounds for handguns and for rifles and shotguns. Not that matters for shotguns before rifles there will be no tax on handguns even though disproportionately this country gun violence comes from handguns. It'll be on on rifles. It'll be on magazines. It'll be two hundred dollars per rifle. Two hundred dollars per shotgun two hundred dollars per magazine. they will create a federal database. Anyone who buys a firearm handgun rifle shotgun you name. It will go into a federal database. That will be publicly available to track gun owners around the country. They will throw all of this. Their plan is in reconciliation package to pay for joe biden's one point nine trillion dollar package of relief for grown virus. It will not be an annual recurring. The last i heard was that they concluded judges would probably declared that unconstitutional. Because you have a right to keep and bear arms. You can be taxed at a purchase of something even as issue right to buy. They do not believe judges would hold constitutional to have a recurring tax on your gun. Ownership it will not be applied retroactively. It only be applied to new purchases. If you already have guns. You're good it's for future gun buying by handguns with Magazines that only hold ten rounds and you won't have to worry about it but you will go into a federal database. Now here's here's the catch that may change. And here's why because what the biden team wants to do for. Penalties is charged with tax evasion. So if you fail to register your guns to get into the federal database all that sort of stuff. You can be charged with tax evasion. Which they think they can give you greater penalties for. I mean even al capone was charged with tax evasion. So that's where we're headed with the gun situation in the country. It's not good and it happens because republicans in georgia didn't go vote. And so now. Jon ossoff and raphael warnock will get into the senate in their totally okay with tax. Also you may see the to me. Mansion background check bill come up They may try to apply that in. Throw that into a reconciliation package that has gun control. So you'll get rid of what the democrats called the gun. Show loophole essentially. If you buy guns at a gun show you will be required to have background checks there. You'll have an expanded background. Check all that sort of stuff to me and mansion both favorite And there's rumors afoot. Now they will put this all into a reconciliation package. You can say it doesn't apply but they'll tie it to the tax to make it apply so it gets passed the senate parliamentarian. This is speculation at this point. It's educated speculation from people in the senate seeing what's happening and from those around joe biden. Who really want to advance gun control again. All speculation but it's credible speculation from these people. Reconciliation is a senate procedure. Where once a year. You can advance a package that does not impact the debt or improves. The debt situation the country and it's not subject to the filibuster so joe biden can get rid of the president's tax cuts. He can add a gun tax and he can do his spending package all through a reconciliation measure. They can balance the reconciliation measure with the gun tax and their indian of the tax cuts to make it work the make the math work out so it's deficit neutral so that it qualifies for reconciliation and this is a logical consequence of so many people internalizing a stolen election that they decided not to go vote in a runoff in handed. The democrats control the senate. If i sound like a broken record on that point. I think it's necessary at this point to remind people of why we're at this point. Hello there the full number. If you would like to call in eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven. Four to five I would like to mourn the poor racing pigeon. I kinda feel bad There is a there is a racing pigeon from alabama. That may die in australia. And i guess we should feel a little sympathetic racing pigeon named joe. This is kind of a bizarre stories in the associated. Press a pigeon that australia declared a bio security risk. Did receive a reprieve after a. Us bird organization declared its identifying leg. Band was fake. The band suggested the bird found in a melbourne backyard. The day after christmas was a racing pigeon that had left the us state of oregon eight thousand miles away. Two months earlier on that basis australian authorities on thursday said they considered the burden of disease risk and plan to kill it. But deanne roberts sport development manager for the oklahoma based american racing pigeon union said on friday. The band was fake. The ban number belongs to a blue bar pigeon in the united states which is not the bird pictured in australia. The bird bandana. Australia is counterfeit and not traceable. They do not need to kill him. Australia's agriculture department which is responsible for biosecurity. Agreed that the pigeon dove joe after joe biden was wearing a fraudulent leg band following an investigation. The department has concluded that joe. The pigeon is highly likely to be australian and does not present a bio security risk. And we'll take no further action this day. This is such a silly story so a bird shows up in australia. They believed that. The bird is a From american racy pigeon that escaped from an alabama owner. It shows up and they were going to kill it. It's a little bit. let's let me read a little more. The this is so crazy. Acting australian prime minister michael mccormack said earlier. There would be no mercy of. The pigeon was american if joe had come in a way that was not met our strikes baiocco security measures. Then bad luck. Joe either fly home or face. The consequences martin foley. Health minister for victoria state. Or joe is living called for the federal government to spare the bird. You posted dis risk. I would urge the commonwealth quarantine officials to show compassion. Andy medic victorian lawmaker for the minor animal justice party. That's at actual party in government called for a pigeon. Pardon goodness gracious. The bird with the genuine leg band. A disappeared in a race in oregon on october twenty ninth. The bird did not have a racing record. That would make it valuable enough to steal. Its identity. the bird didn't finish the race series. It didn't make any money so it's worthless really. He said it was possible. A pigeon could cross the pacific on a ship from oregon. Destroy in reality could potentially happen but this isn't the same pigeon. It's not even a racing pigeon. The bird spins every day in the backyard. Sometimes with the need of dove on a pergola. Okay how much do you wanna bet. How much do you wanna bet that. This is the pigeon from from oregon. Who puts a fake racing band on pigeon. Who does that. Why would anyone do that. So it's probably the real pigeon but now everybody's lying to save the pigeons life. Who cares about a pigeon. Also it's kind of ridiculous that if they pitch and could fly from oregon to australia. The odds of it being diseased pretty slim to none could grief in. This has become an international thing. I got nothing folks. i got nothing. I just figured i'd share the abs. Abs just absurd danger of the story with you now when we come back. There's other stuff we gotta talk about including all the tech stuff the algorithms. They're coming to get you. The tech companies are Left and right are becoming increasingly. United is in wanting to protect Comments on the internet and wanting to punish twitter and facebook and all these other tech companies. They're they're coming for all of us. It appears and the net result of this is going to be government reforms from there by administration on a bipartisan basis. That could actually weaken the internet. 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Brian kip here in georgia. Yesterday gave a state of the state address. We played it live on air of most of it. Not all of it. There are a couple of things that need to be highlighted. I No tax increases. Let let me explain. Because i got. I got a couple of people more than one of you. Ebay's jason my goodness. He's going to the left of all this money for schools and stuff. Eight not exactly. Let me walk you through some of these things that have some people complaining the and you will note that the democrats are complaining more loudly than republicans. I think he's trying to be solomonic. Split the baby that usually ends up going badly. History will record what happens but let me at least paint the picture for you in fairness to governor. Yes he wants to pour money into public schools. What you may have missed is that there was a nine hundred fifty million dollar cut because of the pandemic an economic downturn. The economy is recovering in georgia. So there's money available to put it back into schools. Listen i get you. Don't wanna throw more money at schools. I don't either. But objectively and fairly a massive amount of money was taken away from school budgets and teachers salaries and resources because of the economic downturn. The governor did not want to raise taxes then. He wanted to get into a point of economic recovery. We have arrived at the point of economic recovery. In ever result of that he can put that money. That was taken out back. I think that's a fair solution. The other thing the governor wants to do is to reform not get rid of the citizens arrest law in the state of georgia. The citizens arrest all the democrats. Want gone stacey abrams. Fair fight group is already out attacking the governor for wanting to consider reforms and not get rid of it the republicans in the legislature. Some of the more conservative ones are upset. He wants to look at it at all. I get that. I would rather leave it alone than get rid of it. But the law is more than one hundred years old. There are no proposals coming forward yet. On what any sort of reform would look like. My guess is what the reform would look like based on what i've heard from people. Is that the citizens arrest. Law would apply if it's on your property but would not apply just out on a public street. That is my guest for the reform. That's one of the proposals. Probably the most credible nationwide proposal floated sexually coming from a conservative law and order group That would allow us citizens arrest loss to apply on your property or that of a relative or in the immediate vicinity of your home but would not apply when you're five miles down the road from your house. So essentially on your property the property contiguous to your property and the property of your relatives where you were at at the time. The crime is committed. you would be allowed to use the citizens arrest law And anywhere else you would not another concurrent proposal to that is you would be allowed to use the seasons wrestle but you would not be able to take someone's life unless it was your property or a relative's property or property merely contiguous two years there is. There are several ideas floating. The governor's not wedded to one of them. He just his position is it's it's more than a hundred years old. Let's look at it but don't get rid of it. And i'm i don't wanna get rid of it. What are the other things. The governor wants to do is reform healthcare. He's been very adamant he doesn't want to expand obamacare of the state Now one listener said the sounds very much like a democratic proposal. Actually when you look at the the fine print this is why the democrats will vote against it is essentially what the government wants to do is introduce more Free market concepts if you will recall We were able to get a waiver in georgia from the department of health and human services. In the trump administration last year View muster venus. Irma was on the program to talk about it. Centers for medicare and medicaid gave georgia a waiver and the trump administration made sure it was a five year waiver so that if the biden administration came in they wouldn't able to scrap it. A you would have to wait until the next biden administration term if you were to go for reelection or whoever after two thousand twenty four it would expire in twenty twenty five so then the next four years will be safe to experiment and essentially the experiments would allow a group insurance Rates and pools of of companies coming together to offer insurance that would lower costs would use the free market and would expand to the poor. What are the things. The governor insisted on the time is that it's got to be for people below the poverty line not for people you know some things like two hundred percent above the poverty line. This is for people at the poverty line and blow so. I don't think you can attack the governor on these things as being a democrat. You may want to attack trying to split the baby. I think that's fair Considering the amount of hate he's getting from the democrats already. James beverly Who is now the house minority leader. He's actually from here in making. The democrats are already staking out their position on on brian that he should have shut down the state sooner than he did. I don't know that the democrats are paid at issue. this is not a smart lying for the democrats. Have you seen the polling and georgia something like a forty percent of democrats in georgia are okay with the way. Brian kemp handled reopening and shutting down the state Something like ninety percent of republicans supported and seventy percent of independent support. It i think for the democrats in georgia to campaign on we should have had an earlier shutdown and we should shut down again is not smart and it's something that the the democrats probably need to pay attention. Do it's going to be interesting to see. If james bev the democrats keep up the talking point about we should have shut down sooner and stayed shut down. I don't know that That's going to work for them. It's not working around the country. The democrats who want to shut down in state shutdown are starting to pay prices at the ballot box and we saw that to some degree in local races around the country. I mean when you consider nationally. Republicans were expected to lose a lot of seats in state legislatures including here in georgia and they lost none. Well i should say. They lost none in georgia. We lost two or three. They were expected. Lose a dozen in arizona. They were expected to lose the state. Senate they didn't They were expected. Lose the state senate in in minnesota they didn't they actually picked up seats in a number of state legislatures including in texas where they were expected to get wiped out. They actually held their own and made some gains in georgia. The georgia republicans picked up the james beverly's now the house minority leader because republicans beat the old democratic leader in the house in new hampshire. The republicans made big gains north carolina. They did at the state senate and state house in florida. They did all these places. They were expected to see incursions by the democrats and instead they held on and you know in those states by the way the democrats are saying. The republicans cheated in florida. It's not the republicans saying the race was stolen. It's the democrats who thought they were going to pick up at least one of the chambers of the state legislature in florida and they didn't and they're claiming the republicans stolen from him sore losers. All around the lockdowns are one of the things that mattered. The lockdowns are hurting democrats. Right now the lockdowns are stifling. Economic growth in certain states You know andrew cuomo is not gonna come out of this looking good in new york. Even the media is starting to turn on andrew cuomo over how. They've handled the vaccine in new york. Now that gets me to one of the other issues here in georgia that you need to be mindful of is our vaccine roll out in the state of georgia is not going well and it has nothing to do with the state of georgia. Unfortunately for us it's a lot of hospitals that are refusing to give out the vaccine. They're hoarding the vaccine. Now one of the questions. My wife raised and other people have raised is isn't that the hospitals are holding the dose. Because they've got to give the second dose. Is that it and the answer. That i've been able to come up with from talking to various people making phone calls to health. Officials is no because if you were given one hundred doses you will be given another hundred doses in about three weeks that that was all factored in and the result is that some hospitals are hoarding. Because they've got a lot of doctors and others who don't want it. I was actually talking to someone the other day who said in. There's a hospital in middle georgia. Don't wanna give out names. There's a hospital in middle georgia. Where a lot of the doctors and nurses and other healthcare providers and they don't even want the vaccine. I'm looking there's a The georgia department of health has a locator site on where to get the vaccine and You can sign up and you can There are some restrictions and there are locations. But if you go to the public health you can see. Let's see their kroger sites and there are public sites. There are ingles pharmacy sites. And and you can find locations for the vaccine. The problem however is that by and large they are Out of it everywhere. All the locations seem to be out of it and they're only giving it to healthcare workers long term care facility staff residents at adults aged sixty five and caregivers and law enforcement. So you gotta be careful when you go sign up You also have to have proof when you sign up and and this is a real problem. Frankly that the state is having because the federal government is about to allot another round of the vaccine and they're doing it based on current performance of administering doses in georgia a lot of hospitals are not administering their doses and to. It's making georgia look really bad. Even though the department public health around the state is given out and even though the the pharmacies are elevator giving it out. The hospitals are in the hospitals. Got the largest amount and so it's making georgia's distribution numbers look worse than they should be and a lot of hospitals are saying they're actually giving it out. They're just not filling out the paperwork. They want to get the they want to get the vaccine out. But it's hurting the state and so the governor and in kathleen toomey sector ear. The director public health are doing their best to get the paperwork. Filled out make sure the hospitals get the paperwork filled out and the governor has already said he's gonna start confiscating the vaccine from hospitals. That refused to do it. So you're going to have to. You're gonna have to be patient but also understand the dynamics Don't blame the state and the democrats already out with their talking points blaming the state of georgia and the truth of the matter is it's not It's not their fault. It is these local entities that are having issues All right now we need to talk about the stuff but before we do looking at the clock i should take a commercial timeout. Also i will take your phone calls. Eight seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. Hello there before. I get into because i want to actually spend a little bit of time on the On the tech stuff. You should know that. Don lemon. I mentioned on lemon yesterday on the program. Don lemon the cnn anchor said that if you if you voted for donald trump side of the clan You share the same. Interest is the clan well Don lemon has doubled down on this now. Here he is. let's see. can i pull this up. there are a lot of people who voted for trump. Who don't agree with you. That's fine it doesn't. They are allowed to their own opinion. It doesn't mean that they're right but they're allowed to their own opinion. And i believe what i said last night. Do this mob. They say that's not me. I'm nothing like those people. I would never. They're all those people voted the way you voted for who for it. I'm just saying right but just because you vote for the same people doesn't mean that you believe you in the same crowd. Does we put you in the same boat. People who voted for him for the same reasons. You may not have the same interests you vote for people who have common interests if someone is a common interest people who vote like you have a common interest as you assess how it is. You don't vote consider you. Don't vote for the most liberal person in the world because you're a conservative you vote for someone who shares your common interest. That's how that's how voting works doesn't mean it doesn't mean but you can see the smugness on his face you know he's just doing it to to stir the pot you you can tell that he's doing that way. Which means that. Don lemon is on the side of the people who murdered police. The summer don limit is on the side of people who burned down cities across america. Don limit is on the side of those who smashed the windows of small businesses around america. He's on the side of of those Activists from the left to did this on the side of the activists trying to storm federal buildings around the country. Ironically don limited on the side of people storming federal buildings The left has very much like the right. The right blames antifa for what happened at the capital. The left has been blaming. Bigalow boys and proud boys when it's actually antiphon. Blm which they've been dismissive. It is The same thing if it was good for if it's good for the goose is good for the gander. Don lemon knows this. You can tell by the look on his face He's just trying to make people riled up air but you need to understand the logic here of what he's doing in this also means that. Cnn loses all sorts of credibility. It means that cnn has an anchor. Who wants to define everyone by the worst people in their coalition. If you can say. They're in the coalition. And i don't know that you can you know seventy five million people voted for donald trump. Many of them were black or hispanic to say that they're on. The side of the klan is absurd to say that most voters out there who voted for donald trump really even pay enough attention to know how some of the hard core nasty elements Who have decided to to ride the gravy train. And by the way a lot of the people who were arrested yes there are trump supporters. They're also didn't vote. But don lemon doesn't care about that. Don lemon hasn't cared about that. Awhile Don limit has internalized an us versus them and talapity. Don limit has internalized bigotry. For those who disagree with him and his worldview don limited is secular. He is liberal. He's gay he doesn't have anything in common with evangelical conservative christians who have a biblical worldview. He doesn't have anything in common with people who aren't in an urban secular setting and he's making it very clear on cnn he he not only holds those people in contempt. He doesn't understand those people. He doesn't wanna understand those people. He wants to internalize the worst possible. Things about those people emmys proud of it. And that's really the most amazing thing here to have someone that steeped in bigotry. Who is that proud of it. There really isn't a lot of difference between don lemon and the proud boys and the blue boys who are steeped in white nationalism. Don limit is is steeped in a hatred of those with whom he disagreed over. Donald trump. don lemon is showing bigotry. Profound pride in his bigotry against any young black man or hispanic voter who could vote for donald trump. Just because they thought he's not going to ruin their small business and he doesn't care and that is one of the reasons why cnn. I think is going to have long term problems because jeff zucker has made a decision that while claiming not to have opinion shows at night scene and actually does have opinion shows at night. Don lemon is a news show hosted anymore so much as he is an opinion host. Don lemon does as a poor man's keith. Olbermann and proud of it. He's proud of his contempt for people who disagree with them. He is proud of his hatred for those who voted for donald trump. He is proud of in smiling as he says it on television that yes if you're a hispanic small business owner in this country who voted for donald trump's policies. Even if you don't care for the guy that that you're with the clan it's unfortunate. He needs jesus in his life is really what it is He has drifted further left. He moved to new york. He's got more secular in new york And and now he doesn't care and he's willing to alienate seventy five million people who voted for donald trump So that he can get atta boys from the left so that he can secure viewers who think msnbc is too partisan. I'll watch don lemon and chris cuomo is collaborating with him on this on these monologues. I don't know the cuomo would disagree with him on this. But this is what we've got from. Cnn now he can't really defend cnn as an objective news network when it does this when it allows its anchors to do this when it allows its anchors to double down not just on smugness but outright bigotry toward seventy five million americans Many of whom just want a job. They don't wanna lock down and they see don lemon's crowd antiphon. Blm burning cities down. It's eric erickson. it is my show. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven eric. Eight seven seven nine seven. Three seven four to five In in hayworth at the daily wire has some of what jack dorsey is now writing about. What jack dorsey jack. Dorsey is the head of. Ceo of twitter. One of the founders. After twitter made the contentious and widely criticized decision to permanently suspend president donald trump from the platform the social media company ceo. Jack dorsey posted a lengthy thirteen post threads trying to explain the unprecedent act of censorship. I believe this was the right decision for twitter. We face an extraordinary circumstance forcing us to focus all of our actions on public safety. Offline harm as a result of online speeches demonstrably real and what drives our policy and enforcement above all the threads. Nothing the long winded version of the standard pattern of dodge dip dive and dodge employed by social media giant's when they get caught red handed and he goes on to write out that pattern. Here's here's the situation you need to understand what to thirty is because we're gonna hear more and more about it. There are people on left and right now. Who want to get rid of it. You got the socialists. In the nationalists enlarge In total agreement and a lot of conservatives as well a separate from the national aside on the right libertarian. Ish folks small government. People don't want it Got rid of it. All i had been in the camp that said. Don't get rid of it. And i'm rapidly moving to the it doesn't need to be got rid of but we need some changes section to thirty of the communications act I think the communications decency act essentially exempts publishers of information from lawsuits. When other people leave things on their sites so if you go to twitter and you say my neighbor joe blow who lives at one two three. Abc street is a child pedophile. Who is married to a donkey and can regularly be seen through the window Having intimate relationships with small animals and abusing children and someone needs to arrest him. Come get him now. And it's absolute slander. It is not true. It is a total lie joe. Blow can sue. You're button you're going to pay big because it has libel slander that you just engaged in. But he can't sue twitter. Twitter has protection under two thirty in the same way of someone went back in the day i ran the the website. Red-state dot com. We had a comment. Section people come to the comments and they could put really scoreless stuff. They're really really awful stuff. And we had section to thirty protection and even if we went in and we deleted the comments ourselves we were protected. There is an exception in two thirty. That if you control the information and control its publication you can be held liable but if you have if anyone could come at any time input information and you just kinda moderate it you're protected. What sections thirty does is it separates publishers from generators of you. So if let's take my first example. The the the twitter who says joe blow next door's is a pedophile who's married to a donkey and Has intimate relationships with puppies and children and that person owns a newspaper and publishes it in the newspaper. Will the newspapers going to get sued. And be put out of business by joe blow because why the the person who published it. The neighbor owns the publication. If the publication is example a newspaper and the publication allows a letter to the editor from the neighbor to come in about joe blow and puts it in then the newspapers liable. Why because The person himself could not go publish it himself. The newspaper had to actively selected as a letter to the editor published it therefore the newspaper was culpable so section. Two thirty gives online companies freedom from Being punished for what anyone who can use the platform us. There are people on the left and right now who want it to go away now. The problem if it goes away is that you end. Twitter and facebook twitter and facebook cannot survive unless they have section two thirty when you have a billion people with access to these platforms. There's no way to monitor. What all of them say. And so you're not going to be allow you're not gonna be able to have people come content on on the left and the right. There are people who believe that these companies at this point are do more harm to society than good. so they don't care. If you get rid of section two thirty you wipe out. Facebook you wipe out twitter you wipe out their value on the stock market. A lot of people lose money because they're invested in these companies. The a lot of people lose jobs because they work for these companies and there are a lot of people reg like screw them. They they've they've they've made the world worst place we don't care or they've chosen to show bias against the right so we don't care that they go out of business they let all the lefties put up bad comments and don't do anything but us they take our council scrum there. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of. Neil is among the right these days when it comes to everything And they're burn it all down. We don't care. The left of course is angry that they facebook for donald trump winning in two thousand sixteen and allowing russian trolls to come in. It really didn't amount to anything but they've internalized that it is It's their own mythology explaining. Donald trump's origins is that the russians ended it to him so they're ready to facebook. They hate mark zuckerberg. They hate the privacy that they hate the invasion of privacy. They hate the ads. they had all of it. They wanted all gone. None of them really care. now there are compromises. i think that can be made on section two thirty including Means of taking down information rights of appeal time limits not banning accounts council together but ultimately these are sites that are private companies. They may be publicly traded. But they're private companies. The government doesn't own the company. And you don't have to participate and they under the first amendment. They don't have to let you be there if they can delete your content. The first amendment only applies to government. Now you know it's funny. I after months of seeing conservative. Say the communists come into communists are coming actually saw trump support of the other day. Say the government's going to have to take these over tournament of public utilities and control them. There's your communist the problem though. Is that these tech. Companies are their own worst enemy at this point. They depend on an algorithm. The these companies depend on ads. They give the content away for free and they appear They depend on avenue facebook. Does it better than twitter. I don't i don't even i. Now see an uptick in sponsored ads from from twitter and i actively opposed any company s. He went from if you advertise on twitter. The way twitter works. You are alienating people from your content. Don't advertise on twitter. I don't know that twitter. Like i used to own stock in facebook. I don't anymore. But i would never buy stock in twitter because i don't think twitter sustainable is a sustainable business. Long term in large part. Because it's convinced a bunch of companies to invest in it to advertise through it to boost its advertising revenue but in fact every i is makes me mad on twitter facebook at least. Let me say something about facebook. Facebook owns instagram. And i found more products and better products and cooler companies to buy from thanks to the algorithm on instagram. then on facebook's primary site itself or on or on twitter. I rarely actually go into facebook. I'll go online and get it's mostly like 'cause it's mostly clothes that i see on on facebook on instagram. I'm always stunned at just. How awesome the products are that. I see advertise. I actually liked the advertising on instagram by enlarge the problem with twitter. I just don't think long-term advertising works for but the problem that both of these sites have and this is a problem for facebook and twitter is their algorithms are designed to show you information to keep you engaged on the site. This is a problem for youtube. There's been a lot of outside research to show that. Youtube algorithm actually plays a role in radicalization. Because youtube is found that people stay on their site longer the angrier they get so you tubes algorithm incentivizes. You being outraged knowing you're going to hate watch and further radicalize you facebook's algorithm has overtime incentivized information that you're fringe sharing with you and when your fringe go down the rabbit hole and believe the pope has been arrested. Guess what. You're going to see. More of on facebook that the pope has been arrested. Twitter used to have a chronological timeline. And there are ways free to go back to it but it's not quite chronological twitter. Wants to show you the things that might interest you the most as well. It's people arguing. Social media sites tend to foster anger rage an outrage because the algorithms know that keeps you on the site. It's the same way that a lot of Media companies have started doing. Click bait articles to try to get you to click through They give you dubious information to try to get you to to click through or they show you stories. That are designed to outrage. You like for example. Every easter i would use christmas. But we're past that. We're headed into the easter season. Every easter at the washington post and the new york times at cnn knows where you will find. Opinion pieces designed to belittle and disparage christians and tell them god's not real jesus it real everything you know about jesus wrong. The bible's not real. It's all a fraud and you're stupid. People for believing don limit himself wrote them all and they're designed to make you mad so that you share them with other fringe to denounce them. Knowing that a lot of people are to click through and read them and in doing that they get traffic in getting traffic they get revenue from the ads. Now i use an adblocker in some of these sites. Come up and until me i. I can't come into their site without him. But i mean you see these things and you see it more and more on news sites where they the the headline could tell you what you need. But they don't wanna give you that there because they need you to click through. They need you to generate eyeballs because he revenue facebook. Does this i. I'm clicking through some of these sites right now and it's just a further affirmation that these sites news sites websites social media sites and on and on our design now degenerate eight clicks and outrage clicks to generate revenue which bolsters the argument now of the left and the right that want to get rid of section two thirty because they've decided that facebook and twitter are net social bads and if they're net social bads. Then there's no reason to keep them. The problem is this though. Everybody's using twitter and facebook the example. But let's say you have a small community site you have a small community site you do because your local newspaper in your communities failed you yourself. You've retired you got some money your your son or your grandson taught you how to start a blog and now you're going to the local county commission and the local city council in your reporting the news and you have a comment section. If section thirty goes away and someone leaves something negative in your comment section. You are going to be in trouble so you can have comments section so you can't have community interaction with you. That becomes a problem when you get rid of the comments section. Now never read the comments. That's my rule of thumb is never read the comments although so i have my substance as if you text data to three three seven seven seven. You'll see the piece. I wrote about the pope interested. And there's a comments section but you gotta be a paid subscriber to be able to comment and that has actually eliminated the nastiness that you would otherwise see online. Pay making people pay to subscribe actually is a benefit. Making people pay describe actually works the problem though. Is that a lot of sites. Don't have the manpower dude. They don't have back into it and they just started comment section because they're covering the local community. They want people from their community to participate. But someone may get angry. Come in and slander someone. You don't want the publisher of that blog to get Sued because of what someone said you get rid of section two thirty. It's not about facebook and twitter. it's also about the little guy and frankly it's arguable. That facebook and twitter could do something because of the amount of money they have to survive. And it's the little guy who would get hurt and a lot of the people on the left of the right who wanna get rid of section. Two thirty aren't thinking about that. They're just angry at facebook and twitter. Surely there's a way to tweet this here about here. A ton about this because even members of the biden administration wants to do something about it. But right now there's a contingent on the right that just wants to blow the whole thing up because they find that these tech companies discriminate. And they're right by the way they are absolutely right. Someone on the left can say something appalling on twitter and they are way less likely to be impacted than a comparable comment from someone on the right. Look at cnn. Don lemon don lemon. Essentially saying seventy five million americans Are with the kkk because they voted for donald trump. If you got on cnn and you're an anchor and you said that about the left. There would be a meltdown at cnn. And you would probably have to apologize lose. Your job is there is absolutely different treatment between the left and the right everyone knows it but also life's not fair. Life's never been fair. Life's never going to be fair. And at some point the right instead of crying that their victims are just gonna have to accept that. Life's not fair. Go on and and navigate the world and understand. Life's not fair the victimization on the right right now is through the roof. The number of people on the right who just went to claim that life's not fair and they treated me badly because i'm a conservative. You're absolutely right. Yes they're treating you bad. The tech company in the media company. Disparage you because you are on the left. They disparage you. Because you believe in. Jesus and jesus himself said that was going to happen. There's nothing in the good book or any other book or the constitution. That says life's gonna be fair to you buddy of mine who's listening to the show texts me and says it's dizzying. How obvious the double standard is but no one admits it. It's worth admitting there absolutely is a double standard On the right and the left people in the left can get away with things way more than people in the right in fact it's notable that cancel culture thrives more of the left and the right but it exists on the right. You shouldn't delude yourself into thinking people the right don't engaging camps culture you're you're right. They do trump voters. Try to cancel people on the right. Who aren't trump voters. I am aware of a major conservative publication who had prominent owner step in and say they had to fire someone in back in two thousand sixteen because that person written critically of donald trump. i. I am aware of. I mean heck there have been people tried to throw me off the air for being a conservative but what who's criticized the president but the left's cancel culture is way more powerful and they also say it doesn't exist or that. The people deserve does not really cancel culture. So that this person They said something offensive. And so of course. They need to learn their lesson. That's not cancelling them. That's helping them learn the bad thing they did me and i'll tell you i was on. Tv pretty regularly. Until the moment. I said that i would support the president. Twenty nineteen and then poof. All of the invitations when way except to his credit bill maher on hbo but all the tv news networks with the exception of fox nope every single one of them All the invitations went away. The moment i said i would support donald trump. And you know on the left people's well of course because we can't have you inducing people to to line up with the kkk. Don lemon can get away with. He says on cnn and smile the whole time knowing what he's doing and they'll let him get away with it at cnn. He can double down and believe it and seen and we'll talk to him. Which means cnn really is going the way of msnbc and is a reliable Sinner the road news network. Not that it has been a while but it's claimed to. It's going to have to give up that claim now and it's amazing how they still obsessed about fox news and ignore what is being said on their own network many of them by the way. I sure that the guys at cnn who says about fox agree with don lemon and it becomes an affirmation loop in you. Pat him on the back mean look at how the leftist matthew mcconaughey. I don't even know his politics. Or take chris pratt. Take chris pratt ellen. What's your name who now says she's elliott or whoever river. She came after. Chris pratt a year or two ago and try to get him cancelled in hollywood solely because he goes to an evangelical church and the pastor at that church affirm biblical sexual orthodoxy. And so chris pratt had to be shamed left came after him. Matthew mcconaughey san with joe rogan. Who is not of the alt-right but The daily beast runs a story. That josh rogin or john. Joe joe rogan. I'm sorry joe. Rogan is of the outright. Matthew mcconaughey must apologize for the outrage of jerry to associate with someone like him. Because he's as bad as ben shapiro when he's a pot smoking social liberty who has nothing to do with the alt-right who liked bernie sanders left wing. Cancel culture is a powerful thing and they have. They've got the cultural elements on their side. The media on their side. They can deny that there's cancel culture and then the new york times can run a floating profile of a kid who held onto something that a girl did three years prior use of the inward to get her thrown out of college and and do a raw raw for the kids engaged in cancel culture. There's no grace. There's no forgiveness. There's no redemption you were shunned shamed and it's actually going to end badly for everyone as it continues to expand in. Don lemon can get away with insulting anyone who supported donald trump. Because cnn loves it when he does. Because it generates views to don lemon sole about the clicks and the outrage and the hate this is the culture we live in now. But i gotta tell you something you still need to show other people grace even if they don't show it to you you were obliged to show grace and it's good for your soul to do it even when they spit on you. Don't spit on them.

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