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Fresh update on "boxing" discussed on Jared and Katie
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Ballot Drop Boxes Gain Popularity As An Alternative To In-Person And Mail-In Voting
"Worried about casting their ballots in person this November because of the pandemic. They are also worried that mail in ballots could be misplaced or delayed on alternative that is gaining popularity and also attracting controversy is drop boxes where voters can deposit their absentee ballots to be collected by election officials. NPR's Pam Fessler reports. A steady stream of voters in Detroit, Michigan last week approached a red, white and blue metal box right outside the city's main election office. The box looked a little like a high tech trash can or recycling bin. Instead, it was one of several 100 ballot drop boxes located across the state. More than a 1,000,000 Michigan voters decided to cast absentee ballots in the primary rather than go to the polls, But many like Elizabeth Dandridge didn't want account on the post office to deliver those ballots. I want to be sure that it was collected in the box. Sometimes the males delay I'm waiting on a package is what people have sent me over to weeks to go, and they haven't come. And it's a growing concern is the U. S. Prepares for a flood of absentee and mail in voting in November. Many election officials are encouraging voters to use Dropbox is instead to make sure their ballots don't arrive too late to be counted. That's already happened to tens of thousands of ballots this year. Connecticut's using 200 new drop boxes in tomorrow's primary. Secretary of State Denise Merrill admits the state was somewhat overwhelmed by a surgeon requests for mail in ballots and even a week ago, local election offices were still trying to fill those requests. There's a lot of confusion just the moment about when the ballots got mailed to whom When they're going to arrive. It's going to be very tight and the ballot boxes play an increasingly important role in all this, because you know you shave off 234 baby five days from when you mail a ballot. But the boxes are controversial. Ah, couple of Connecticut towns complained that having them outside available to voters, 24 7 isn't safe, even though many are protected with security cameras. The Republican National Committee and the Trump campaign have filed suit to block Pennsylvania from using such boxes in November, arguing they could increase the chances for fraud. Tennessee Secretary of State Trey Hargett recently told a Senate committee his state doesn't allow drop boxes for fear voters might be pressured on how to vote. If someone knows you've got an absentee ballot, they can say, Hey, I'll be glad to take that for you and drop that off for you. They can ask you what you build that balance out or they can not turn it all for you. We believe it's a great security measure Tohave, someone returning their own balance by the United States Postal Service Dropbox supporters dismiss such concerns is completely unfounded. They note that drop boxes have been used in some states for decades without problems. Kristen Clarke of the Lord's Committee for Civil Rights under Law told senators the boxes are unimportant and convenient option for voters a compliment the limited postal box offices that are available in communities and are just critical to providing access this season access for whom isn't clear. Researchers have found that drop box is Khun Boost turnout overall. But there's no evidence at least so far that one party benefits more than the other. Still, Larry Olsen of Laser Fab Company in Washington state that makes the boxes, says demand's definitely on the rise. I couple orders today, and he's confident their boxes are far more secure than the average mailbox, he says. There are multiple features to prevent tampering. The boxes are also made of steel and weigh about Â£600 they're bolted to the ground, So it's not really something anybody can move easily. In fact, he notes at an SUV plowed into one of them in Washington state last year. Both the box and contents. Survived. Pam Fessler NPR news
Mayor Lightfoot calls on authorities to hold Chicago looters accountable
"We We are are getting getting word word of of the the large large gathering gathering of of police police officers officers near near Karloff Karloff and and Madison. Madison. On On the the West West Side. Side. There There are are reports reports that that an an officer officer has been injured and that the crowd in the area had been firing. Fireworks at police were continuing to watch this and we'll keep you updated. Mayor Lightfoot says Judges need to step up and be responsible and hold criminals responsible after the weekend unrest. She also called on the Cook County state's attorney to doom or put your best people on this. We have made the case We have the video. We have the officer's testimony. These people need to be held accountable and not cycle through the system takes Attorney Kim Foxx handle it this way. Questions that we have to start asking our wire we hear What is this? What is the data show and tell us And my data isn't overly simple to give you an answer that says, if it's exit must be why But what it should allow us to do a start to ask the questions and work together. Box called for teamwork rather than for finger pointing at this
Defending MacOS Against Sophisticated Attacks
"I've come from a kind of unusual background I guess for somebody in Cybersecurity. In. The sense that I started. I. Mean I've been involved with the MAC platform for. Something like fifteen years or more. But I didn't really start getting into it in a kind of technical way until about eleven years ago. And, I just started out on Apple's support forums trouble-shooting. Volunteering. Troubleshooting advice to people. And after Wa, that led me to most problems that are coming up back then were or it started to be when we started to see security issues like adware and things like that. And that sort of an Brown about way, let me to develop my own software to basically deal with all these issues. Instead of answering people's questions all the time. and. So for about five or six years I was. Developing my own software and doing that and. Then, about two years ago, I joined central one, basically, they were looking for somebody who had background in McCoy security shoes to sort of help with with research. And somebody who kind of knew the threat scape and sort of seen it evolve so. That's kind of how I got to today. Janka. Where do we find ourselves today when it comes to Mac Os and and sort of the state of things when it comes to security and what's your estimation of where we are? Generally the Mackie's a safe platform. I don't think. There's a big argument about that, but I think the the issue really is that. There is a malware problem on Mac os which never existed maybe five or six years ago. It's actually even escalated again in the last couple of years I think and I think part of that is to do with the fact that Maxim now. Foul often found in business environments whereas they probably weren't. Going back was five or six years would really. Popular Business Machine. And I think it's also that. Just to use his vague general term threat actors. Realized there is money to be made from accuses. Possibly it comes with the development of the iphone from two, thousand seven. But the fact that people now have them. Max connected to so many other devices there a rich hunting ground for people who want to. Gather, data of adware. We. Also have some more targeted actors as well with the business environment. So. I think the situation today really is that. There is a lot more threats, for Max, and has ever been before, but I think also not a great awareness Soviet. If you compare that to say windows. Yeah. You can ask even the most basic windows us and they probably know what an AV is probably know that they need to have windows defender turned on or something like that. But with MAC users, I don't generally get that sense of awareness. You know this is sort of general feeling that it's a market. It's safe by design. You know I think that's. Something that people really need to have second thing about with the kind of threats that we see these days. It's it's my perception from the folks that I've talked to that the majority of the The malware hitting Mac users seems to be adware people. It's that classic update your copy of Flash and then something gets installed shows. Ads is, is that an accurate perception on my part I? Would say, so I think I wouldn't like to give figures because I don't really have the data to to say that, but you know it. Sort of. Off of the top of my head, I would say, probably seventy eighty, maybe even ninety percent of the stuff I actually see on a day to day basis is going to be adware and it's Kinda cousin, which is the stuff recalled bundle way all the kind of. Potentially. unwanted. Software. That gets installed alongside says, download some software manager and you get like ten. Things back keeper and Lisov utilities that are not really often any any value. That often get installed. Through hidden, very, very difficult to see check boxes and things like that. CRYPTO is also thing. We've had allowed minor bird minors in the last couple years that they've been intimidated detections. We see those on the rise quite a lot. and. Too, much lesser extent. There's bits of the spyware. Data stealing stuff, Anacostia things that get headlines every hour now, and again is the. Things Lazarus or AP GM era. You know very very targeted dings going after specific uses. So yeah, I. Mean I. think that's a fairly accurate way to think about it. In terms of the general user. I, think the most threats they're looking at our. ADWARE unbundle where? The other problem that I'm I see. Developing is when we look at these adware bundle where actors and. Listen to in the media's general slayer which has been. Pretty proactive in the last eighteen months, or so what you see is a lot of interaction between between themselves and a lot of swapping. So you get adware sources installing bundle wear and you get bundle where download is that are serving up where and it's it's kind of difficult. Actually a Lotta time to pull up different players, all these sort of paper install kind of things, some serving adware, some of them are serving genuine malware so. It seems as if there is a lot full of interaction with these guys. In terms of helping each other out to. Serve this. I mean I just called a whole lot malware. Basically, something that the US had doesn't want doesn't know and is not in our interests and as you know as far as I'm concerned it, you might as well call it all where. The number of these things his what's really. Quite. Shocking. When you look at just how much more of this is occurring this more this year than there was last year, you know almost exponentially, and this seems to be more players as
Mike Tyson put a shark to sleep with his bare hands
"Well, this headline caught my eye. Mike Tyson was so scared of diving with a £200 shark that he vomited during his Tyson versus Jaws. Shark Week. Special, Really? Mike Tyson knocked out 44 opponents during his professional boxing career. Now the 54 year old can add a shark to that list after putting one to sleep with his bare hands as part of Shark Week on Discovery. Dubbed Tyson versus Jaws Rumble on the reef. A boxing legend undertook a trio of increasingly difficult and frightening challenges with seas Apex predator in the Bahamas in an effort to try to conquer his fears of returning to the ring. So he succeeded in all the tasks given to him. Tyson was so nervous before the final challenge, which saw him swim uncaged with a group of £200 lemon sharks. He vomited on the dive boat before getting in the water. He was so scared. But he's like it. See, I thought this was going to be him in a shark cage agents. He's down in the water. And he puts this Shark in like a sleeper hold with some shark experts standing there. Next to people are gonna watch this. This will be Shark Week's most popular show. I'm sure. Well, now that I know this, I'll watch that. Yeah. It's sports sort of. He does something called tonic immobility, So if you grab a shark's nose It puts it kind of in a hypnosis like state of in activity. Do you have to say I got your nose? I got your nose. But I don't watch that in the shark's eyes, Dollars eyes and they roll right over.
Tips every Django developer should know
"This first tip that have this is like one of the main things that I think of is like it comes with these building block pieces that say Flask Impure Pyramid and. Bass APN. What just don't come with like Admin back ends Yup. That's where we're going to start off. So Django clearly comes at batteries included and some people actually don't like that because they've under rule their own and they think itself. I happen to like their preferences and yeah, one of those well-known building blocks as the admin interface at and it's it's pretty impressive. But a few lines of code you. You can just add your model, an avid pie file, and you have to complete crowd interface, which is probably pretty end user. But as a maintain earth, this site it's it's pretty convenient and it's also very easy to extend it. So for example, taking admin class here, you can define some search fields. which makes those field searchable. You can have even have out a complete fields which they integrated the jobless Ritz. You can override to get crazy set and. Yeah. It's a nice way of inheriting from the Admin Dots Model Admin blasts Yeah. So it comes out of the box just. Kind of think of it as like. Google sheets or something for your database, right? Right. Where each table is like a tab or a sheet and sit in the workbook or whatever the terminology of Google sheets is. But the task. The bottom writes something I mean not necessarily stimuli. But that idea that you have like a grid over top of it. But what you're telling me is I can go into rive special classes that are tied to the various. Tables the models more specifically in it lets you search different aspects of it. Lets you cool. Auto completion. You could also say like limit how many items come back in your search results per page. So you don't get a million or something like that, right? Yeah. Do a list filter, for example, and then certain columns at the right side of the page. You can filter on them by clicking. Just. With one nine of coach. So this does raise some Cole functionality and I think, maybe in the show notes, we can link to a Django adleman cookbook, I use a loss which has like the hands. On. I. Might have mentioned before actually on pie down the vice then the umbrella from that book. That's like fifty pages and. Yeah Very. Workable. Super Bowl. Another thing you can do is you can write a function called get query set and actually do things like be joyner, do a joined queries against other things. Otherwise you may it up with like the N plus one problem of Orum's were doing queer than everything that comes back. You have to do more queries per item to try to fill out the details, I will talk about that in in one of the tips. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. That's super cool. Let's see what else you want to say about that I. You know I was it. You think it might have been you either you or damn baiter. baiter from real python talking about using this to actually trigger events as you interact with this adman was that you think that was me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So tell us that's like I. think that's pretty related. Tell people by the pretty. Cool. Right. We spoke about that on Python Bites Yeah. Thank God. We did was in one of the at model self variety safe method, and then the object plus created, and only then do a certain action. He likes emailing people in Hindsight. That's probably better to do it a salary task by it's an example how you can override those methods and do certain things. Yeah. Pretty easily. Yeah very cool. All right remember to or magic. Yeah. Well, Dan go comes with its own orem object relational napper and it's kind of a proxy today. So you don't have to ride s all yourself although i. Am such a fan. I'm saying, well, you worked at, Oracle, didn't you? Fan of orange actually or in the nurse sequel world maybe od M.'s or or some. are might not necessarily make sense, but you know there's so many issues you can run into if you don't use parameters, queries, little bobby tables, and all those issues and just like if you get the rock queries back and you pull different values sometimes you forget to convert this thing to an integer and it's just a string that has an energy in it that sort of. All these little weird edge cases right now you're as. With. Orum's at kind of. Like a layer that just separates like how your data should be transformed I. Really Love It. I, think it's great. I know one hundred percent work all the time. Right? There's places where it doesn't. But that's not as you know like most the time it's a it's a beautiful thing and it's it's a nice obstruction and it's way easier to use and more elegant.
Dan Milnor and a conversation (you may need to hear) about pro photography today
"Today's guest is a photo book and creative evangelist. He loves photography, but he really does it for paying clients anymore, which he says has led to a more rounded interesting and better life. He spent twenty five years as a full time photographer mainly shooting documentary work for newspapers magazines clients in Nineteen, Ninety, seven, he quit photography, but in nine, hundred, ninety, nine talked into coming back. To work as a photographer then in two thousand and ten, he quit a game this time for real and today he works for Blurb the print on demand bookmakers he lives in. New Mexico one of the United States with his wife where he rides bikes explores and continues to work on his own documentary projects and create box that potentially no one will see or even care about. I stumbled across him on Youtube while rediscovering my passion for Photography and start shooting more for myself. He's breath of fresh air full of positivity even though he will potentially go against everything you've heard from any other guests of interview. Thing is crossed. This is a positive experience. All of us I'm talking about Dan. Mill Nor am truly rat to have him here this now Dan welcome might yeah. Thanks, I appreciate it. Wow. I've sounded amazing intro. Maybe. We should read that again. I'll send details to. Tell me why do you feel that you are? A happy better more random person now the shooting professionally. Oh, man it's a great question I just started thinking about this a couple of weeks ago. I've thought about it a lot but prior to that, but I made a realization a couple of weeks ago that I sort of pushed aside since two thousand ten when I made the decision to really walk away from being a full time photographer I became a better person almost immediately, and the reason for that is that being a professional photographer especially if you're trying to. Make your own work and not just you know sort of content with any assignment that comes along the Pike if you're trying to adhere or hold to a certain standard or style that may or may not have a home in the industry, it's very difficult, and so the consequently you're forced to think about yourself far too much. So the moment I quit photography, which was I think it was Tuesday afternoon in two thousand ten just said I'm done and I deleted my email account primary email account and I suddenly didn't have. To think about myself all the time I didn't have to speak about my business I. It was like being on the freeway letting your foot off the accelerator and all of a sudden you can lift back and say, wow, I can take a look around here and I realized one I've been focused on myself for far too long and I've been focused on a very narrow sliver of Tarpley for far too long. I should have been a more well rounded human being and educated in in areas that I wasn't also Just more educated in regards to the creative industry in general, you know what our designers doing, what are illustrators doing, what a writers doing why am I not collaborating with these people? You know it just was a wakeup call of sort of epic proportion and it's on me because I made the same realization in the nineties when I quit the first time and then I talked myself out of it I was like, oh I should do this again and I probably should have never gone back from ninety seven or ninety nine. I was like a square peg round of the photo industry I never really felt completely at home because my philosophy about what I was doing was not typical. And I WanNa make the pictures that other people were making I. Didn't WanNa make them in the style that other people were making them and I just kept finding myself swimming in quote unquote wrong direction and you know my colleagues and other folks in the industry were just like what are you doing? You can't do what you're doing and I thought well, you know I can and I am and it is. A weird scenario to end when you're constantly in the minority. But yeah, I just took a look around inside I need to stop thinking about myself so much and start thinking about other people but understand, hey, you had a chance to thanks so much about is still if you answerable to, I guess an editor so won't you focus on the work you had in front of you had to submit and get done. Well, it depends on what style what I'm shooting. So I made a couple of realizations very early. So I graduated from photo journalism. School. Ninety two I got an internship at a major newspaper ninety three to meet year to find an internship I was like banging my head against the wall. I found internship and ninety three. I got very fortunate because it was a big paper they had good budgets. They had a lot of photographers that I was rabid I was so amped on being talk refer and the photo editor realized that very quickly and it wasn't like I was a great talker or great inter. It was just that I was rabid and my pictures were in focused and I could talk to people without slobbering over myself and so I think the photo editor looked at me and said Oh. He's not a liability like I can actually give him good assignments. So I got good assignments. Photographer when you're working for a newspaper or a magazine Yes, you are almost entirely beholden to their editorial style it what the editor wants, photo editor, etc, and so found very quickly. You know what I could get away with in the newspaper world? Picture wise because we were a very conservative paper and I I would shoot things in in the field in my head as I was framing it up I'd say they're never gonNA run this even if it was a great image, I would say all the higher ups are GonNa make nervous they're not gonNA run. And when I went into the magazine world, it was the same thing I realized very quickly that I was not shooting my photographs shooting their photographs.
‘Doctor Who’s’ Ninth Doctor, Christopher Eccleston, Returns To Role In Audio Adventures
"Or not, Christopher Hickel Stone says his first returned to doctor who and 15 years feels like a long time coming He will appear as 1/9 doctor in a dozen audio adventures across four box sets from Big finish. First Volume night Dr Adventure set for release next May.
Trump allows some unemployment pay, defers payroll tax
"Payroll tax cuts because they're they're coming. Starting September 1st, we're gonna have payroll tax cuts. September, October, November December. From executive order Technically Executive memorandum from the president. In addition to student loans being continued to be deferred eviction memory, our moratorium extended And then the extra $400 per week of unemployment benefits again. Executive order from President Trump Now how did the payroll tax Cuts work. Granted, you've gotta be working to get a payroll tax cuts, so this does not help the unemployed, But it's going to put more money into people's pockets and you do some math here so first off a couple thoughts. This is brand new, so people are trying to still try to figure it out. But from what we understand this is about what this thing is gonna look like September 1st until the end of the year. If you're making less for $4000 or less. In any two week period. That's of any bi weekly period. So it's equivalent of this of this impacts anybody that's making about two grand a week or $140,000 per year or less. Or less. And it seems as though this is going to be determined by your bi weekly pay period. You would be in this group that's going to get a payroll tax cut. Remember the payroll tax cut his FICA and Medicare. You put them both. Together. It's 7.65% so let's do some math. Here again. If you're in this camp, $104,000 or a year or less. Or $4000 or less in a bi weekly pay period, which sounds like the more important calculation here. It's not your annual number, but it sounds like it's a pay period numbers how they're gonna look at this. If you're gonna take 7.5% off of that, which is the employee portion of this That's about 306 bucks a box for every two weeks ago at the Max. So if you're making right at the 4000 levels, said Boyd, 65% is $306 for a two week period and then times to turn up months. I look at this monthly It's about 612 bucks a month. That's really money. Of 600 bucks a month for the next four months. September, October, November, December. That's about $2500 a year. Money that's just directly in your pocket that you wouldn't otherwise have. You're collecting Mohr out of your paycheck, because less is going Teo and medical lessons going federal government
Modeling the trajectory of COVID-19 cases
"About the number of new Corona virus cases by the end of summer if things don't change Brownsville, Texas, for instance, has nearly 16,000 cases based on the current trajectory. Models show that figure could double in just 11 days in Laredo, it would take 19 days for the 7500 cases there to become 18,000 Looking at Florida in about three weeks, so call his caseload could double to nearly 12,000 while Tallahassee could see 15,000 cases and Knoxville, Tennessee could top 16,000 cases by early September boxes, Claudia
Air India Express crash: Investigators find black box data
"Voice recorder and the black box from from the the Air Air India India expressed expressed plane plane that that crashed crashed yesterday, yesterday, killing killing 18 18 people people has has been been found. found. India's India's minister minister of of civil civil aviation, aviation, visiting visiting the the crash crash site, site, refusing refusing to to say say anything anything about about the the possible possible cause cause of of the the crash. crash. It It is is visible visible never never to to speculation speculation because because all all the the data data which which is is required required for for the the investigation investigation will will be be contained contained in in those those black black boxes. boxes. This This two two year year old old Boeing Boeing 7 7 37 37 flew flew from from Dubai. Dubai. Too Too cozy cozy Coda, Coda, which which is is also also called called delicate delicate in in India's India's southernmost southernmost state. state. The The dead dead include include both both pilots pilots of of the the Air Air India India Express Express flight. flight. The The four four cabin cabin crew crew are are okay. okay. The The
Kerala plane crash: 'Black boxes' from Air India jet found
"From the Air India expressed plane that crashed yesterday, killing 18 people has been found. India's minister of civil aviation, visiting the crash site, refusing to say anything about the possible cause of the crash. It is visible never to speculation because all the data which is required for the investigation will be contained in those black boxes. This two year old Boeing 7 37 flew from Dubai. Too cozy Coda, which is also called delicate in India's southernmost state. The dead include both pilots of the Air India Express flight. The four cabin crew are okay. The
The rise of Poland's far right has important lessons for Americans
"Of Donald J. Trump. We in the United States have become accustomed to a degree of fabulous. Um I've done more for black Americans than anybody. With the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln, the president, self aggrandizement provides the framework for his alternate reality. We have one of the lowest mortality rate way had 900 Deaths in a single day. You have the numbers place because I heard we had the best mortality number one low mortality, right? We are being given something I can't recall in my lifetime, a choice of realities. One that is mostly regarded as evidence based and one that you might call faith based that faith being in Mr Trump In either case, you have a sizable cohort to back you up. Truth has been displaced in many quarters by rage and fear. Over the past four months, we've had many opportunities to observe the impact of paranoia. When deployed by a fantasist in the White House in Arizona Man died after taking Clara Quien, his wife said that they heard about it from Trump's briefings. Are you gonna allow the government to tell you you have to wear a mask? Some believe these mask orders go against their freedoms will protect. All right, I will know asked me and I will not pay for antibiotics. Conspiracies of Sena numbers swell on Facebook and doctors warn, if left unchecked, they could undermine an effective vaccine. The death toll from the Corona virus pandemic has surpassed 150,000 in the United States. That's the highest number of fatalities in any nation by far. And accounts for nearly 1/4 of the recorded global. Told immediately after the 2016 election, I spoke with New York ER writer Masha Gessen, who, after having lived long under Vladimir Putin had some advice for anxious Americans trying to navigate the so called new normal. She explained that for the would be authoritarian, the lying is the point that the ability to create a reality flagrantly staring down conspicuous fact. Is a crucial component of building and sustaining power. And last fall boxes, David Roberts noted bluntly, where such a strategy left unchecked, could lead this sort of cultish, increasingly authoritarian movement takes over the country. In Russia and Turkey and Poland. Right's a disturbingly longer and longer list. We see countries that we thought were democracies devolve into this. In the U. S. So much has happened in the last few years that we thought would never happen. I think we should really loosen up our imaginations as to what can happen when a movement that is convinced that everything it knows and loves is in danger of falling apart movements that's thinking like that unconnected anymore to fax or reality. And got its hands on the power of the federal government is the basic recipe for democracy is falling apart. And so last fall on, the media producer Leia Feder reported on one of those places Poland, a young democracy teetering on unstable ground and where it's far right Nationalist government is intent on rewriting the nation's painful history. For almost a decade, Poland has been in the grip of a conspiracy theory what really happened when a plane crashed in a forest in western Russia, killing Poland's president and dozens of other government officials. The plane had been on route to commemorate another Polish tragedy, a massacre that had occurred in the very same location in 1940. 1973 documentary explored the mystery While the German army is advancing from the West, the Soviets crossed Poland's eastern front court in a method of Polish army collapsed, Um, surrendered. The victors, divided the country down the middle and imprisoned every soldier they captured. Russia took a 215,000 Poland officer Corps were never seen alive again. Many. What die near Smolensk, in a forest called catching after decades of opacity and suspicion on investigation in the early nineties, confirmed finally, that it was not Hitler. But Stalin, who had ordered the massacre. And so when, on April 10th 2010 a delegation of 96 Polish politicians and officials traveled from Warsaw to Smolensk. It was in service of remembrance and reconciliation. But what happened instead compounded the national pain. Poland's prime minister burst into tears when he heard the news today that his country's president was killed in a plane crash pilot tried to land in a thick fog at least twice missing the runway. And ignoring the control tower's direction to divert to another city. Not just losing the president of that country. The first lady, the ahead of the army chief of staff, the National Security Office head deputy Parliament speaker, the deputy foreign minister. It was a devastating national tragedy. What's more, the symbolic layering was undeniable. Ah, longstanding tragedy finally solved and a new one appears in its place. And yet, in the immediate moments and days after the crash, there was a kind of common shock. An Applebaum is a journalist and academic beast in Warsaw At the time of the 2010 crash, her husband was minister of foreign affairs in the Polish government, and there was pretty straightforward reporting. About what had happened. What was immediately clear There were people on the ground who saw the crash. So there was a kind of concensus initially about what had happened that it was a terrible Accident and that you know many people of value to the nation had died. But the story started to shift is the investigation into the crash proceeded. Investigators say pilot error was mostly to blame. It became clear that one of the causes of the crash was the fact that the pilots were under pressure to land. The president's delegation had arrived late for the plane. They were running behind schedule as they got closer to smell lens, which was even really an airport. It was a kind of airstrip in the forest. They began to be worried about the fog and the pilots weren't sure they could make the narrow landing. But according to black box recordings, Polish President Lech Kaczynski, head of the opposition party directed the pilots to do it was meant to be the launch of his reelection campaign. So there were cameras there which he knew, and he was very anxious to go under pressure, the pilots tried to make the landing. Instead, they hit a tree, killing all 96 people on board. The president's twin brother, the head of the nationalist right political party in Poland, same parties, the president He didn't like this story. It made the president look bad, more to the point. This is a terrible crash very near to a place where a Nurlita generation of poles were murdered by the Soviet state. Because of that eeriness. People immediately began to speculate that there was actually a different, deeper story that perhaps the Russians caused the crash. Perhaps there was a bomb on the plane. And conspiracy theories began to proliferate online. The president's brother, Nijinsky began openly alluding to them. Kaczynskis Law and Justice Party made unraveling the Smolensk conspiracy. It's key campaign promise once you had bought into their idea that there is a secret conspiracy, possibly involving the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk. Possibly involving the Russians, and that lots of people high up in the state were implicated in some great big secret plot to kill the president. If you believe that Then you can believe a lot of other things. The point was to get people to believe in a kind of alternative reality to doubt institutions to doubt that the government was telling them the truth, and that was absolutely an attempt to help win an election, But it did more than carve out a new electorate. It created new divides in Polish society. Where one's Polish politics were split between Communists and anti communists around economic policy. Now it was over a vision of history. It was how you see Poland's place in the world. And whether you think secret dark forces air trying to undermine your country and whether you know you need to elect a government of Patriots in order to make sure that doesn't happen. Where you fell on that dividing line affected how you would vote and how you would understand politics for the next several years, And so when line justice one in 2015 it spawned a new kind of power a power based on the willingness to embrace the myth. They fired large numbers of Polish civil servants. Polish members of the foreign service. All kinds of people who work for the government also leaders and board members of state companies and they replaced all of them with people whom they were sure we're loyal. And one element of the loyalty test was belief in this Molinski myth. Smolinski conspiracy implied that there were dark, mysterious forces continuing to try to manipulate and undermine the Polish nation. It also drawn the larger story of a Poland continually attacked by outsiders and the valiant Polish resistance to threats past and present line Justice Road that narrative electoral victory. And then wrote its electoral victory to further consolidation of that narrative in service of Polish nationalism.
The rise of Poland's far right has important lessons for Americans
"Election of Donald J. Trump. We in the United States have become accustomed to a degree of fabulous. Um I've done more for black Americans than anybody. With the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln, the president, self aggrandizement provides the framework for his alternate reality. We have one of the lowest mortality rate way had 900 Deaths in a single day. You have the numbers place because I heard we had the best mortality number one low mortality, right? We are being given something I can't recall in my lifetime, a choice of realities. One that is mostly regarded as evidence based and one that you might call faith based that faith being in Mr Trump In either case, you have a sizable cohort to back you up. Truth has been displaced in many quarters by rage and fear. Over the past four months, we've had many opportunities to observe the impact of paranoia. When deployed by a fantasist in the White House in Arizona Man died after taking Clara Quien, his wife said that they heard about it from Trump's briefings. Are you gonna allow the government to tell you you have to wear a mask? Some believe these mask orders go against their freedoms will protect. All right, I will know asked me and I will not pay for antibiotics. Conspiracies of Sena numbers swell on Facebook and doctors warn, if left unchecked, they could undermine an effective vaccine. The death toll from the Corona virus pandemic has surpassed 150,000 in the United States. That's the highest number of fatalities in any nation by far. And accounts for nearly 1/4 of the recorded global. Told immediately after the 2016 election, I spoke with New York ER writer Masha Gessen, who, after having lived long under Vladimir Putin had some advice for anxious Americans trying to navigate the so called new normal. She explained that for the would be authoritarian, the lying is the point that the ability to create a reality flagrantly staring down conspicuous fact. Is a crucial component of building and sustaining power. And last fall boxes, David Roberts noted bluntly, where such a strategy left unchecked, could lead this sort of cultish, increasingly authoritarian movement takes over the country. In Russia and Turkey and Poland. Right's a disturbingly longer and longer list. We see countries that we thought were democracies devolve into this. In the U. S. So much has happened in the last few years that we thought would never happen. I think we should really loosen up our imaginations as to what can happen when a movement that is convinced that everything it knows and loves is in danger of falling apart movements that's thinking like that unconnected anymore to fax or reality. And got its hands on the power of the federal government is the basic recipe for democracy is falling apart. And so last fall on, the media producer Leia Feder reported on one of those places Poland, a young democracy teetering on unstable ground and where it's far right Nationalist government is intent on rewriting the nation's painful history. For almost a decade, Poland has been in the grip of a conspiracy theory what really happened when a plane crashed in a forest in western Russia, killing Poland's president and dozens of other government officials. The plane had been on route to commemorate another Polish tragedy, a massacre that had occurred in the very same location in 1940. 1973 documentary explored the mystery While the German army is advancing from the West, the Soviets crossed Poland's eastern front court in a method of Polish army collapsed, Um, surrendered. The victors, divided the country down the middle and imprisoned every soldier they captured. Russia took a 215,000 Poland officer Corps were never seen alive again. Many. What die near Smolensk, in a forest called catching after decades of opacity and suspicion on investigation in the early nineties, confirmed finally, that it was not Hitler. But Stalin, who had ordered the massacre. And so when, on April 10th 2010 a delegation of 96 Polish politicians and officials traveled from Warsaw to Smolensk. It was in service of remembrance and reconciliation. But what happened instead compounded the national pain. Poland's prime minister burst into tears when he heard the news today that his country's president was killed in a plane crash pilot tried to land in a thick fog at least twice missing the runway. And ignoring the control tower's direction to divert to another city. Not just losing the president of that country. The first lady, the ahead of the army chief of staff, the National Security Office head deputy Parliament speaker, the deputy foreign minister. It was a devastating national tragedy. What's more, the symbolic layering was undeniable. Ah, longstanding tragedy finally solved and a new one appears in its place. And yet, in the immediate moments and days after the crash, there was a kind of common shock. An Applebaum is a journalist and academic beast in Warsaw At the time of the 2010 crash, her husband was minister of foreign affairs in the Polish government, and there was pretty straightforward reporting. About what had happened. What was immediately clear There were people on the ground who saw the crash. So there was a kind of concensus initially about what had happened that it was a terrible Accident and that you know many people of value to the nation had died. But the story started to shift is the investigation into the crash proceeded. Investigators say pilot error was mostly to blame. It became clear that one of the causes of the crash was the fact that the pilots were under pressure to land. The president's delegation had arrived late for the plane. They were running behind schedule as they got closer to smell lens, which was even really an airport. It was a kind of airstrip in the forest. They began to be worried about the fog and the pilots weren't sure they could make the narrow landing. But according to black box recordings, Polish President Lech Kaczynski, head of the opposition party directed the pilots to do it was meant to be the launch of his reelection campaign. So there were cameras there which he knew, and he was very anxious to go under pressure, the pilots tried to make the landing. Instead, they hit a tree, killing all 96 people on board. The president's twin brother, the head of the nationalist right political party in Poland, same parties, the president He didn't like this story. It made the president look bad, more to the point. This is a terrible crash very near to a place where a Nurlita generation of poles were murdered by the Soviet state. Because of that eeriness. People immediately began to speculate that there was actually a different, deeper story that perhaps the Russians caused the crash. Perhaps there was a bomb on the plane. And conspiracy theories began to proliferate online. The president's brother, Nijinsky began openly alluding to them. Kaczynskis Law and Justice Party made unraveling the Smolensk conspiracy. It's key campaign promise once you had bought into their idea that there is a secret conspiracy, possibly involving the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk. Possibly involving the Russians, and that lots of people high up in the state were implicated in some great big secret plot to kill the president. If you believe that Then you can believe a lot of other things. The point was to get people to believe in a kind of alternative reality to doubt institutions to doubt that the government was telling them the truth, and that was absolutely an attempt to help win an election, But it did more than carve out a new electorate. It created new divides in Polish society. Where one's Polish politics were split between Communists and anti communists around economic policy. Now it was over a vision of history. It was how you see Poland's place in the world. And whether you think secret dark forces air trying to undermine your country and whether you know you need to elect a government of Patriots in order to make sure that doesn't happen. Where you fell on that dividing line affected how you would vote and how you would understand politics for the next several years, And so when line justice one in 2015 it spawned a new kind of power a power based on the willingness to embrace the myth. They fired large numbers of Polish civil servants. Polish members of the foreign service. All kinds of people who work for the government also leaders and board members of state companies and they replaced all of them with people whom they were sure we're loyal. And one element of the loyalty test was belief in this Molinski myth. Smolinski conspiracy implied that there were dark, mysterious forces continuing to try to manipulate and undermine the Polish nation. It also drawn the larger story of a Poland continually attacked by outsiders and the valiant Polish resistance to threats past and present line Justice Road that narrative electoral victory. And then wrote its electoral victory to further consolidation of that narrative in service of Polish nationalism.
Introducing the On The Ledge manifesto
"Now, it's time to bring you the on the ledge manifesto is important to say that this really is a work in Progress I. How does Z. Meeting with my Patriot subscribers while ago and ask for their suggestions some of those are incorporated in this but I'd also love to hear your thoughts. This is going to be an evolving document that on my add to as I go along. But it just gives you an idea of some of the core beliefs and views that that underpin the show manifesto point number one is this everybody. Absolutely everybody can be applied to person. There were no such things as green thumbs or black thumbs or any other silly phrase two thumbs. Anybody could be a plant person and it starts with one plot which she may well kill and that's fine. This show is completely open to everybody whatever that age. Background location. Religion race, all those other things that other people try to use to put us into boxes I don't really care about any of that stuff. I just care about helping people about plots. That's the first thing to say anybody can be a plant person do not feel held back by the fact that you think your not very good at science or that you. Have killed plants in the past or that you. Don't know what you're doing because everybody gets on a journey and starts learning and that is absolutely cool. So you're applying person if you have a plot, you are replant person. So that's manifesto point number one. Okay manifesto viewpoint number two, every plant has a story more does that mean? Though? Well, every plant comes from somewhere has a native home and the more you can understand about the ways that your plonk rose in its native home how it was used by the people wear it grew and where evolved. And how other people of discovered I say that in heavy inverted commerce because usually these plants or almost always these pants early, very well ninety by the people who actually live around them. But story that's been built up around, applaud the more you know and understand that the more you can understand. How to the coffee appliance in your home. I just got a little side note to about plot names. DO QUESTION PLOT names. Let's not underestimate the degree to which plants we own today came to us. Thanks to the labors of enslave peoples, the slave ships across the globe and traveled to Africa. Latin America. They carried the plants that we know and love to Europe and the rest of the world I'm going to cover this immoral depth in an upcoming episode, but it's worth knowing about. The journey, the plants of taken to reach us and the ways in which they've been interpreted and named and labeled by by generations of people mostly Bennett it has to be said. and. Let's just get rid of a lot of the really pejorative names that are attached. He so many house plants. I just because you've heard people calling the plant particular name, it doesn't mean that names acceptable all that your not perpetuating horrible stereotypes from in Law's tongue to wandering Jew a much worse. It's time to find alternatives to these names and this this loads of alternatives already out there. So I try to scanty it can be called wondering dude or spider word. Dare say trying to scanty sunset area is this plant. In the show notes that your fund a to peace in the scientist magazine published in Nineteen Ninety one by science writer. Melvin Hunter and in that he urged to change their ways about naming and some of the really offensive names have been dropped out of have dropped uses them, but some of them haven't shockingly. So, do gonna read that piece and have a think an just a little. Check through your head and maybe start thinking about some more positive names for some of the plants that you own. If you haven't thought about that before that's just something to have a think about next up There's an idea that gardening is is green knock okay. You're literally oversee plants are green but manifesto point number three's this gardening isn't green by which I mean eco-friendly unless you make it. So I'm talking about indoor gardening and outdoor gardening here really. As you'll know if you've listened to the show before sustainability is something I'm really passionate about I'm not saying I've got all the answers or done everything right myself but the more I learn about plants, the more I want to respect. The resources that we have and try not to waste them and to use things in a responsible way and accents everything like careful use of non-renewable resources like per light and pumice using pete free compost to avoid denigrating and destroying our world peat bogs. Thinking hard about whether I. Really need to send away to Thailand for applaud when I could. Go. To a plants for locally. Propagate my implants and do swaps give plants away and the more you learn about propagation the mood deeply stand your plans. It doesn't mean you can never buy a plot again, but you do go back and listen to the WHO are talked about the downsides of buying from big bookstores and think hard about whether there's a local nursery will grow with. Ye could support or plants what the Echo Goto said that some of that valuable money, your putting into plants is going to local experts who are paying a fair wage who are growing responsibly because that is. A. Really key part of being a responsible house plant person.
Trump Executive Orders Target TikTok, WeChat Apps
"Objections to the president's executive orders designed to ban some widely used smartphone tools in the U. S. China, saying it strongly opposes President Trump's executive orders, saying the United States is using national security as an excuse to suppress foreign companies. The president's orders don't take effect for another six weeks. But they could see the popular social APS tic tac and we chat removed from smartphone app stores in the U. S. Tic TAC, calling the band shocking and saying it was issued without due process boxes. Simon Owen President Trump today calling for
Time captured in a capsule
"Welcome to catch Miss Mysteries I'm your host kid crumb today despite the fact that we have so many things going on with the corona virus, the economy just around the world kind of an upheaval I thought it would be interesting to look back at how people thought. This might look at long ago and will address time capsules according to the International Time Capsule Society Around fifteen thousand time capsules worldwide a time capsule could be a box, a bottle, literally a metal capsule, as often as time capsules contain letters and newspaper. Clippings about significant events, they also may contain letters and pictures created by children. Often school will bury a time capsule students ideas about what the future will be like some time capsules are meant to be opened fifty years but most have notes on the outside of the container asking that adopt be opened until a specific date. The oldest time capsule in the United. States was created by Paul Revere and Samuel Adams and is believed to have been buried in seventeen ninety five making the oldest known time capsule in the United. States. Time capsules have been discovered, but most have been purposefully dug up and open to time capsules out of Japan contain remnants survivors many time capsules are simply intended to show what was going on when they were buried in an area of Germany where German SS were trained time capsules beneath the floor refilled with Nazi Paraphernalia, including pictures of Hitler and two copies of his book Mein Kampf. Then there was a surprise time capsule discovered in plain sight at the American Legion post seventy six that had been sitting in. The lobby when they decided to fasten it down for safety sake, they discovered that it was possible time capsule from nineteen, thirty four but someone else have discovered earlier and left a note that stated simply thanks for the brandy note was tucked inside an empty brandy bottle many schools created time capsules usually elementary grades usually with the idea that in fifty years, most of the children are still in the area would appreciate the contents when the capsule was open fifty years later in the nineteen fifties, most children wrote about flying. And rocket ships by the nineteen sixties letters are about pollution becoming president demolition crews Albuquerque New Mexico, discovered a time capsule from Nineteen Sixty eight nearer former elementary school. Most of the children wrote about their favourite TV show but Greg Lee young men left a different kind of note, I'm dead. I. Go to Montgomery School that is the old school name I was born nineteen hundred you auto and I'm reading this directly. That's why it sounds kind of funny auto now no, I'm dead my favorite subject is spooking the police I play the guitar case you don't know what it is. It is supported with strings on him I am ten years old seal later savages. Greg Hat Morbid nature the most unusual time capsule. Now, certainly concerned a prophecy came true the capsule was a metal ammo box pulled from the foundation of a building all it was left of burned out logs ghost town of climax located in the southern Cascade Mountain range the child's printing dated nineteen forty eight described a town on British Columbia's North Coast that would boom in nineteen seventy nine with over a thousand residents but would become completely deserted by nineteen eighty two in the note he stated that the town would be as modern. As any community of that decade he ended with a comment that even after the town was completely deserted, it would still have electricity for thirty years underneath the date you printed his his name Philip Simon follow by grade three, Mrs Sims class for decades. The notes from the time capsule found climax collected dust in a police archive. The department hired a new officer who was given the assignment cleaning out the back room including the archives when he came to the letters from the time capsule, he page through them until he came to fill. The officer had grown up in Khazal. And had vivid memories of his family moving out of the town in nineteen eighty search on the station's computer revealed that indeed Kissel had ended up deserted by nineteen eighty two yet retained power lines for thirty years when officers searched the Internet for the author Philip Simon was not to be found nor could he locate any school in the area that was around in nineteen forty eight with a teacher with the last name of Sims.
What happens after you die?
"And what happened after you die? I don't really know my grandfather is. This is my brother. Can I think his body's gone and consciousness he's gone. Things were at their his box of committed ashes are right in front of me. Tell you what's his planning like? It know your voice is getting on that. Thing you're getting set. He's alive in a way. Like a ghost but as like. As like something. A. Scientist from never be able to know 'cause like let's say they need someone to die. So that they could make that on that. How would they make data on that? If the PERSON'S DEAD Kuenz right isn't a data. Yes. Some people have these near death experiences and they talk about like the lights at the end of the tunnel but the fact that they've told us about this means that they didn't die. I kind of feel like science isn't really going to work this time. So I. Thought I might turn to religion for semesters. Own Interview Buddhist because my grandparents they're Buddhist. And you know my dad is technically Buddhist although he doesn't really celebrate it. And I'm just interested to see what put us a mess to say about death there is no real short answer for the question that is so profound. This is Angie Neal he's actually chaplain for Olympians. And not only is he met the pope. He's also met the Dalai Lama so like this guy must know a lot about Buddhism. The main belief in Buddhism three scientific way of looking at things energy does not disappear. It usually assumes another form. and. The belief Buddhism is that when you die your spiritual energy does not just disappear. It assumes another form and that form can either be in hell or it can be on earth. Or it? Could. Be. In Heaven. In terms of Hell Hell is not a permanent place in Buddhism, hell is jail. If you've got really really bad Karma, you go to jail and then you have the chance of being pardoned and you have the chance of probation. So in Buddhism nobody goes to hell forever then comes earth. Now Earth of course is the most interesting part of it. If you are reborn on earth, you can either be reborn at says an animal we can be reborn as a human being there are certain criteria which would help decide what would be your formulas adopt like maybe if you're an aunt but you're like a really really good and maybe it come back in this time like beetle and just maybe work yourself up. Excellent. You've you learn certain spiritual lessons in this lifetime like in the same way that like a punishment itself isn't necessarily all bad he get punished so he can learn from that absolutely if you deep genuine remorse. Ask for forgiveness. They will give you a chance to go directly to heaven which we call Judo in Japan or Sukova Incense Sanskrit. Basically it's heaven.
"Hi and welcome to a very short episode four, hundred eighty shut zinc. This is Bruce Williams from Shutt- zinc podcast dot com, and joining me via skype from Melbourne. Once again still in lockdown Mr Glenn lavender from creative workshops dot, com today you. The. Excellent. Why are we doing a short one? You tell me because in forty two minutes and thirty seconds. Nassar is launching the next Mars rover. Really. Finish. Perseverance, it takes off in forty two minutes from now we listened insist the name of. List. The. Thought I had to speak fast and keep the woods short. Misconstrued your meaning. Misconstrued and there's a long word. So I'm sorry for Moreton those lot. As you will week pain actually do this photo shoot. Wow. I actually went to work and did some. Other doing product shoot of black plastic box six hours. You should get logging, right? Six hours per for black box. Hello. Did it take six hours nine? I'm telling you say for six hours shooting. Happy of well. They're still the negotiators. And right for them yet, and and it's it's it's tricky at the moment earning money you're gonNA. Be Inspected. I'm the. Six hours doing all these different setups it was it was a black box trance coding box that you plug your camry into the trance code into whatever output via APP, what you want to and and. The filming each setup. So required the setups tracks every every setup time. In addition shoots and so on and so forth and you know my debt, my boxer. Good. But. It was a black box and student took. One Thousand and sixty six photos of a black box. Are you serious Yup Well Part of the problem was. Poor light because these these the airy cine cameras laughing almost no light. Light to shoot. So I'm trying to shoot a black box in black surrounding. handhelds without pushing. The is our Tony Stupid amount. I'm often shooting at one point four and of course getting dipped feels that law goes on in folks. All this stuff you got to try to see shoot multiple and then I bush, do that get any so the steadiness in my hands. Yeah. So. Yeah it was it was it was tricky. Machine twelve thousand eight hundred is. Because that's GONNA garbage. For. Product. Shots. You use any Phil Flesh? Die, flash it all. That's all. They had all that lodgings up constantly just as it was being on my. LAP AND CEPA random it was. Very. They really didn't give you much consideration. Did they. Of course I'm only. Why would they. That's the whole thing. It's like you asked me to come here and do a job, and then you hold me from the outset but looking at the back of the camera and love, dude is producing, which is important. And the best part of the whole job is guide mimic the cigarette identity. Noses get get them in gone. I. Didn't have to look through the Tasman Sixty six to see which good. Their problem, and then tonight, this product launch tonight at midnight. So we should we shot Monday APP until four thirty Monday afternoon, get all those images, edit all the images, get all the footage edited the footage, build web pages using the images and footage. And build everything and script and the video Albany for launch not.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Which is still don't let it get to do with it in full taking come, so it is committed benefits. Now's a fighter I want to be in the gym WanNa. Be Improving Wait until fight day. Are you what? What can you do to try to keep yourself as best condition as possible? Aim just usual. No, keep you. been doing to site can which is still fucking used to do, and just the body bodyweight say it's and stuff like that, and it's to keep as you. I'm used to be inactive used to have a routine goal in the gym daily. taught to keep that up as much as a canon. Just putting the dial up a little bit more informative, not GonNa Fight Day to aim towards. When you gotTA. Fight data don't WanNa be starting from Baltimore won enough some Foam Basin keep me South Dakota over, so I have to do that as much as a combo. It is only so much you can do. So you and your family well known in the United Kingdom and the US. I'm not sure how many people are aware of just how deep the boxing ties are in in the Smith family, I mean your ear older brothers Liam. Paul Stephen all professional boxers. On different levels, Liam of course, a lot of people remember as one hundred fifty four pound title is spot can also here several years ago still chasing me today? I'm just wondering for people that don't know how. How did boxing become the family business? Was it just one after another one older brother, the next one in line, or is there more to it? Yeah. No pitching would show as kids. We lived across the road from local amateur boxing cloven meal for the poorly named friends and. took open took through it. Enjoy this too hot. Stephen be in the typical younger brother. Follow poll everywhere. Enjoying the end. It was just a conveyor belts. Was a little boy following brothers down to Kunti CNN, be successful and become national champions represent the country in I always wanted to be like them, so it was inevitable La mealy. We're going to follow in the fall of the open volk. Conduct bounced off each other land off each other over the years. We've managed to be successful between the of. Were you boxing fans growing up or was it just the competition that you liked? Now, we would always talks funds ambassador. Appointments videotapes of all all the old fighters in the fall kings videotapes landed John Hogla Hanes. Watching all anti fighters so always an hour box boxing, though we've been a big part of the family even to this damage box and find out always watch boxing regardless of whether it's a future opponents on my weight division on Boxing Fan Fest Fall. Most than no I've enjoyed watching sports over the years, and I've enjoyed being a part of it as well. You guys are all now all different weight classes from the one seventies where Paul was biting to all the way down to the one thirties, but as kids you were you sparring with each other I mean? How competitive was was that? When with each other? Yeah, we always used a spot in the house. You'll said gloves on. Sometimes he's only have one close between the Soviet on. Doesn't like boxin Joe. Say It in the gym. So when she committed all without the gloves on the couch in the town I not faces very being normal themselves. Take the boat. We've always been competitive. Each Other we've always wants to whether it's football new hatbox from your way to compete with each other in sees the best in boxing. There's no difference and I think that's helped. Improve especially as younger kids. You're always competing Alex especially. May I kill two zero ways fighting are higher level and may solve always authentic to laying off and get advice off, so does your mom does? It didn't like boxing and yet she had four kids that did box. How did that work? Yes. She's still to this day. Watch. Issue doesn't come watch. His fights watch on television. She occupies yourself. Keep yourself busy and got a phone call to to give it the result of the fight bull. I think she's always said they're happy. That will be when the last one retires at all don't. Think. She's piles office for what we achieve. Anyone like see in the soon getting points in the face and she's up to watch for. Do so I think. I think it's probably out of the Fenian onto vs lifetime No, she I think she was putting on. I think I think she'd rather be told. Announce I, yeah I'm wondering how it would be avoidable for her to do not see her sons, bobby and I'm sure there was a time when you guys were all active at the same time, where maybe fought like within a few weeks of each other? Yeah. That's an amine like some people have won the fight, and then he doesn't fight for awhile after where it is because of is always felt like each weekend, there was one of his fight, and so she's after go through it, and she goes to Bengal the Bingo with women. She. Treat your phone off when she kinda know. When the fight was finished, she performed by phone and give it the result vote. Yes, still to this day, she she doesn't watch he doesn't. Take too much intestine than when she does. Watch after she just look for people in the cloud zoos. They're watching rather the not paying attention to the fighting. Is there I? Mean you know I want to talk about Kamilo down the line, but like if you ever fought fight like a Cannella, would would you show up for something like that? No no definitely now she. Probably. Joy the Still wouldn't watch the fight. It's all know whatever level she just doesn't doesn't enjoy watching the. She didn't watch.
"boxing" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Run. It doesn't listen he's just talk. It was like he just talking this stuff. Don't even run. If getty invented Internet he had a little more presence. His boss has Knicks Fan. Gabby matter catchy will start running of. That's my Mario. Calls blog talk. I think Oh damn long. Just who's to ten. We have the number. But we don't have the name on there. I don't know why it keeps disappearing. I put it on. Their several is to ten. Who's this what to do? Big Dog is young senior. O do them long time longtime has been a mini G. but hey it's been a mini donkey. But I still tuning in with job but Should I just told my two votes in the boxing program got initiatives. Dope does My guy in folk and I got getting they do take you thank. Yeah he changed Number Mario. I see his old old when just now. Yeah Yeah Young. The double check and double check in check. And that's every body got the vote. Time Hadley is Tattlebaum. Tally Tom Tom so joe up. getting Thirteen votes Thirteen votes total So actually He had thirteen but I didn't vote. I would vote for him so that's actually fourteen Right now like that. Make that fifteen of them go. Damn we doing some info. Y'All Sony sought at Battlement Info. Came prepared man. You had to watch the throne. This is one of the be under. He wanted to vote right one. Yeah Yeah I didn't hear the first one but I got Casual in the second one. Because I didn't understand much homeboy said. Thank you casual needed that. What's the score man? We ready to go here. We need to post fights so Casual ended up with seven votes to rain. This is twelve. Oh Wow that's almost double wall.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Advantage of this. They can probably pay more than than Fox can right now at least in the short term give it get get some of these uncertainties and I think there's a real pathway for them to show the best fights of any network coming up just because of the uncertainty they their uncertainty is not nearly as uncertain as Fox or or ESPN's or disowns is so They have a real pathway here to come out at NBC. The top performing network in boxing which given their performance last year. I think many people would not have you know most people inside the industry thought this was kind of their year where they were gonNA leave boxing. And that's I think now. They have the opportunity to rewrite the narrative completely. Do you think they have to do? I mean it's like they don't want to be a feeder system for Fox and PBC like they don't want to put on Danny Garcia read catch and then watch Danny Garcia by aerospace on Fox paper. But how how do you navigate that like how do you I mean I assume you have to have some kind of conversation with Al Hayman? Were you say how will give you enough money to put a major fight on Showtime Championship boxing? But you've got also give us the next big pay per view for the same fighter. I mean the. They've got to have a safety net there. They can't just continue this process of. You're giving the others. The stay busy fights while watching Fox as bill. Wagner's told me they. They get first crack at all the major events. They cannot allow that to continue in my opinion. Yeah I agree. And I may think some of it is going to be finding their fighters that their exclusive to.
"boxing" Discussed on Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast
"We've had a tragedy just a few weeks. Yeah he's line of thinking this. You know boxing changes no forgot. What's going on the minute? No this virus Bingo partner. Climate the pocket change quickly. That you talking eighteen minutes time or these phone we talked about. They could be champions challenge because one of one or two. Why would you expect one of these guys to be champion because these guys as you said you know the CIA is young no petition? He's not a young man anymore. Loans you got two full can keep making the weight books. It's funny though. Isn't it because you add Scott quick that list of recent sort of big names of retired? Futsi left a void in British boxing. I'm talking about is the better use the groves guy. Oh let's go to that now but actually what you're saying is eighteen months. Just gotTa stay patient with these. Get Coolum kids. Which is disrespectful but it cost a patient with them because actually in twelve to eighteen months time we could be really reaping the him just showing the Sunday called the Woodstock and tell them about it. Good kids yeah. He's yeah so really break saw the Manchester and I didn't know he was signing. We might treatment John Evans. He's a by sitting next to him and he said always Alpha salvage treatments that Hussy. Anita look to me to say. Oh you know you'll spice to know these things and the any kind of Russia them over magic chat in the soil. That's great sonning because a guide eastern not saved Jimmy author. Pirates is on call is a good story and he could really fight under any tickets to theft defeats. He had been so much so much. Better Young Me. You can upset anyone on any days. Each class steam so happened clock was really good. I feel sorry for him. His career is just really being pulled back for no reason at all just couldn't get a fight blessed and then he injured when it mattered. Yeah but I was just. She's not David that they dealt pilot was signed crease. Revoked just signed on catchy nineties. The an initiate feels like Paul South America right thought the January transfer window for press releases. And as I've done that there is one out now with so it's a Finnish on a negative but Press release from matching boxing match during boxing postponed event please by all events in March and April following advice from the government and the boxing board of control relate to Cova nineteen matching. Boxing postponed all events taking place in March and April. That does include Avanessian Kelly Richardson Miguel Vasquez and Terry. Hop on the TASHA. Join US on April twenty four so all three of those have been pokes fun clarity with that now at least for the last few days. Let's Friday we're at the press conference said as we're saying earlier it was in the previous caller twelve hours almost that it had really started to escalate. And we're all speculating. Maybe we could get. The golden contract fell next week because the happy with behind closed doors and after that she'd Kelly difficult to that one. How long it's GonNa last. Nobody knows at least now with the bay. Sorry could have an initial talk job in a chocolate factory food camp for their one fight. Yeah I wonder if that's going to go in the list of flights it never happened. Another one actually is supposed to help them. Friday Philip Bowes Against Brown as well books at the end of November an Philip absolute problem with his urine test came really light so fico cooled on the day of the fight is still going to Mickey Halley. It's about it the other day and he manages somehow of a kind of fairly balanced sense of humor about it and we'll show how because it was a show a a Nice post-abacha Friday and now that all at back again. Yeah well thank you for both of you for coming down it's Day Again we should reiterate lot more to life than sport and we all just talking about it trying to stay positive and don't want to think people like people think we're coming off. Insensitive is a serious issue. Stay safe follow. The government guidelines were his box and so we have done. Thank you both for coming. Down Berry. Jones Andy Clarke. Make sure you subscribe. Leave some feedback on itunes and we will be back next week definitely next week. We'll be back in some forms. I'm looking at produce in some form of very even. If it's my friends we will be back next week so you make sure you join us then and as. I said stay save them..
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"Hello and welcome to forty different types of Typo cost today It's going to be very raw and very reactionary because we are actually down at the Repton boxing club here in east London with the fighters for the golden contract and the news has just broken that unfortunately the show is off and every boxing event in the UK is off obviously because of covert nineteen in krona virus. And it's disappointing news but perhaps the right news in the circumstances and say that. I'm joined by Andy Clock Berry Jones and Jose personal. I'll come to you guys shortly but we'll go straight to the flight to the man who's probably lost the most out boulevard today Jose your immediate reaction. The fight doesn't go ahead to semifinals. Don't go ahead. I'm absolutely devastated. That's going ahead book in SWAT SAFE FOR THE FOR THE WORLD. Isn't it for the country is very mature attitude considering with professional boxes? If you don't fight you don't get paid. You have lost our notes postponement but it's an indefinite postponement. We don't know when we're going to be back and you've see trained very very hard but to you. None of that really matters. It's about getting home to your family here. We'll have adopted sixty year old. And my mom sixties well on this viruses is worth for all the people in his younger people. So I wouldn't want to be the cause of them being so in my opinion it's the best of the competition. Nocona head and don't get me wrong I would look to fight on fitting. I'm ready to fight. Maybe if it was behind closed doors it will be good book. I the government's not letting their paramedics in that people be boxing. Shows could be out helping people so I totally understand. His is devastating. Told him on this week is it's changed our not just a day but our boy our point this week over the weekend. Do Start to think as strong chance at this isn't going to happen. I woke up this morning and put the news on the Lebron national and then across a few channels. I was watching the American news and Kentucky. Dhabi's often NASCAR is often the baseball's also there were millions and millions of pounds. This competition is not on that scale so I said if the consular not all the will the Olympic qualifies cancelled. So I'm just thinking if they had cancelled this is gonNA be cancelled as well or that's linked to anti clock. You've been down at the Olympic qualifiers this week. speak full. This here is Scott. Needless to say health is first and people got stay. Safe doesn't necessarily dumping disappointment and with the news is happening. No it was it was it was coming by. Wasn't it? I think last week at the end the last week it was last Friday really whenever thing last Thursday night when everything really began to to take her attorney in the situation began to to spiral an hour to the drawer on Friday and then they had three days of competition and not draw will remain in the three days of competition will stand the results will stand socal Alafaya Petema girl qualified last night. A flyweight and featherweight. So that's done. That's happened massive congratulate which is brilliant which is brilliant. Because they didn't know they did know the staff did tell them. The competition would be suspended as of last night after their session. I think they probably would have wondered whether they should tell them will not. It's just another thing in that had but I think the theory was that they would have found out anyway they needed to get and hopefully they'll reconvene competition in the not too distant future and they'll pick up where they left off but but what it was was. was logistics. There wasn't a an outbreak amongst athletes. Will the support staff? It was just the fact that you've got people not just all over your at that. With the officials from all over the world did with. Boorda's closing at flight stopping Darren a position where a lot of them just would not have been able to get home and so it was it was unsustainable so they gotta try finish that won the America's world which was G for Argentina. After this that go to trial get that done. At some point the the Asian qualifies of a finished with the African ones still quite a lot to to fit in. But but the the three-day through Brendan Irvan qualified for all until last night. So three days of how founded golden go well in competition was was was great. It was it was the boxes at Bryn place for it. The Standard was as good as it always is but I think that's almost three days to be honest. Barry joins US If you're like me already on a couple of days in without live sport how to survive Harry is out. I watched Badminton Squash. I watch reruns. It's a great time to watch fights radium. We can freely give on your history. Yeah you fall in love with this all over again. But it's frustrating. Listen Common Sense and health and safety should prevail over everything of course but let's put that to one side for a second just sports. I don't know where to put this. Because at the professionals it puts everything back. These storms have to reschedule. There's other fight Saturday in the line. So then everything goes back on. The things get moved around is no. We'll take priority over. Watts is a big difference between postponing and canceling flights. Isn't it was? It is but no pook spoon in with no idea when you're GONNA put it back on again this for bigger fights in this tournament for these but Joshua's fight for instance that gets put. When does that go on? It's not doing go ahead. Say this if this drags on for that long. But he's a multimillionaire. He can survive financially though. I don't know about Jose but some of the other guys as well. You know they need. This is telling us a life changing tournament for these guys need not just to their career but financially also give some of them are real step up and and that's a worry and also is on the Olympics. What happens to be a tournament? They may the final qualify impasse in Paris Moscow. Well that's not gonna it's not GonNa happen because that light though because I remember the final qualify before Ray I was Venezuela and our went and that was started July so they could do that light but wallet say is more likely to finish these two continentals extra places that were going to be lots of Paris. They'll just figure out who on a countback if you like. Who's next in line in the Continental Championships? And do it that way. I don't see how else I can't do. I see they're Gonna. They're GONNA go wrong. Don't do who lost in places. Yeah exactly a performance to previous tournaments and stuff like that which is going to be again the whole thing. The whole system changed for corruption corruption based for the Olympic boxing. But this is going to be questions asked again. Who GETS A place? If they don't win as they are meant to be in the quality of the wind will get to the final. Got A place in. No people are going to have to be given places forgetting to call a finals. But that doesn't equate defense. I don't think in in the whole scheme of things so it's it's a massive problem for the for the sports immediately above over time because the Olympics looming it's a problem and though for the real put Mahia for the professional boxing for this fantastic. That was going to go on Friday. No it's a staff and a real Babylon for these kids chain. So sorry kids these these men. We've trained so odd though Pete and tape it down for this particular date now. The left in limbo. So what other ones too much bought? How now will your life take shape a you okay? Without the money you would have been paid for this. If you've got family that we're relying on you. Are you okay now if you do have to sell Soleil or if you do have to just poured your career you're okay financially in got enough stability there. I've got good family beyond me for obviously the money off of this fight was was good money and it does make a big difference will be poor and alive than rich and dead and the thing is is is your health is wealth and you know the money. Obviously was was brilliant. It is what it is. It's all I can say about the situation. Yeah yeah well I think the big message from everybody here is stay safe. don't take risks and how long this is GonNa last. I've everyone comes for while we've got you here before we let you go because we do want to let you go because We'll see one raging hot Jim. is absolutely boy is simply but he's really cost audio if you could see us now. He's just starting to get twenty seven degrees the forest throw. I wish I'd want us to teach a couple of things that happened recently with people that you know very well. Scott quick is retired you spent years and years with him in in Gallaghers Gym. Sad surprise. What was your reaction to that? I sit him training. All training come a cinema training on. It was the right decision to to retire. Scott's a great friend of mine I used to think he was absolutely brilliant boxer and it didn't have in skill in May with will and I just seen. He's he's lost. He's lost than he's lost training. Camp just wasn't what it used to be He used to come to the end of eastbound sessions. I must be how we don't unusually. I would say brilliant Scott. That was absolutely brilliant. He was coming to me at the end of these sponsor Sessions and asking me how we doing. I was lost for words because I'm usually the Truffaut Guy in the gym and I'll tell people straight 'cause that's what we want to hear. If they WANNA hear the truth they come straight to me and I was finding myself just one minute. I'm just GONNA precipitate. I'd I'd I'd avoid answering the question so I'm happy. He's retired now. The Scott Quick a few year ago on John Carroll. I don't think I would have been a competitive fight. But John Carroll is the fight renew P- is on the down on the slide. So it's the right decision to retire. Now we can delve into that. Goes just one more tossing fury I mean surely these success story so far this year a guessing. You're not surprised at the result. But just how proud of him where you at the time and just just explained to us what. How about the whole situation? Well I fight with Wilder W WE SHOULD YOU FAMILY FIRST COUSIN FIRST COUSIN? Tyson's yeah so I never went to that which now I'm I'm a bit sick about because I was getting myself prepared and ready for this but for him to go and do what. He's done the second time we beat. Klitschko own gave him credit. Re- much the first light with wilder. I fought the robbed him of the Fairytale story which was the greatest comeback of all time. But they never the only added to it because nobody expected him to come out and knockout wilder in. Oh Two two DIFF- bill? The biggest possibly the best boxing story ever to be told no one could come and writers rocky couldn't write the rocky stories wasn't like this and didn't tell you what he was going to do. He said Jay said I'm going to go knock him out. He said I'm going to bully him if he could eat up book. Yes yes because I I one of the people in the world who actually knows. How could he is how talented he is still to this day? People hasn't seen how good Tyson can really really be. That was six weeks training with his new trainer from being a slippery side. Slighty allusive boxer what he always had in the tank which Ben Davis shopping upon to becoming the Cronk knockout style upright punching heavy. Get you out with their with six weeks margin and over six weeks margin. Nova eight month how he's GonNa Perfect style. Tyson is an unbelievable human being when it comes to boxing walks in relationship like review. Did you grow up to in gyms? Did you see him when he was coming at the same time? Did you spend time with him? When you buy matches see. I started you Tyson.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"That you know. That's that sort of fear of missing out or or or that tense ability to the deontay wilder. Has You know he? He could just come off and lose five or six Against Louis Ortiz. In a rematch. And then all of a sudden boom he lands his one shot and it can be over and they need to be able to to bake that into the shoulder programming end. You know all the great stuff that they did the second fight with By sort of activating their entire afternoon programming In all the other shows that they have and some of that is tough because allies personalities. Don't know boxing that well. So you're going to be really reliant on the people that do to push that narrative in and that's whittled convinced fans to buy a third fight. Are you surprised that wilder exercise that rematch? I mean look. He's GonNa make a ton of money even if the split does change for the third fight. He obviously still believes in himself based on some videos. We've seen the interviews that he's done but it really. Is Evan. Like less than five month turnaround or right around five months. The turnaround to come back from a loss like that. I mean what do you think of the decision that while they're made to come back and take that third fight? Well if if I'm putting my manager hat on for for something like that it's still it's I don't know what the minimum guarantee would be the third fighter game and work that out and I know they said sixty forty split but they're still going to be a minimum page fighter. Whatever you're GONNA make it another fight isn't gonNA come close to the guarantee for that third fight. I'm sure so if you're just looking at from purely financial standpoint. I am not surprised at all that he and his team took the fight. I also think just from a competent standpoint deontay wilder for himself probably needs to get in there in see if he can knock Tyson fury down again and eventually knock him out that you know to to regain his confidence. I can see why he'd WanNa get right back in there. If you're taking a very long term view this especially if you put your manager head on what is best for Deontay wilder career long term. I don't know that I would have gone right back into it. Just you know maybe taking another fighter to build his confidence back up. I mean you can make a case for that. The question is what? What then are you gonNa make for the third fight? You know if you're GonNa make twenty five or thirty million dollars for the third fight right now and if you don't agree to contractually and you're gonNA come back in after you know after you take another easier fighter to what's that guarantee could be if it's only going to be ten or fifteen million bucks. No you WanNa take that that third five right now in in maximize the revenue you can make from it and like I said I think most reason that deontay wilder was the slight favorite at at the sports in most of the money coming in was actually on data wilder. A lot of people have a lot of confidence in his right hand in his strategic abilities throughout the fight to set it up. Even if he's losing rounds not have that bother him at all and eventually landed do it and you can look at the AJ. Release I fight. I mean. Aj took a shot and he came back in. You know. Won The rematch. There's every reason to believe that. A deontay wilder took equilibrium shot. Even if if he he's prepared for this strategy this new strategy from Tyson fury next time he can come back. And even if he's getting outboxed you have his wits about him in eighth or ninth round just like in the first bite. Look FOR KNOCK DOWN. Please for deontay wilder this time. It's a knockout. Yeah in look one of the things that I found interesting was right off. The Bat is they said Bob. Arum said look we will move the fight to September October to give it some time to breathe. If that's what they want that arum comes back and says no the networks wanted mid July the MGM. Graham wanted a mid July by the way. Shut out to everyone. I'm going to see it summer league asking me for tickets in mid-july to enjoy telling you I have no access to any of them just to be clear on that. Read the bad but I wondered like the conspiracy theory side of me. Evan is like do you think? Like Eddie hearn's in Bob Arabs ear saying you know look make this deal force them to fight in July and if you win that fight and look at. He said he wants to do the fight. With Joshua versus fury in December. Eddie says that a deal between Joshua and fury is incredibly makeable and Arum seems to be taking the same type of position. Did think there's something to that like where they want to force while they're back in the ring as soon as humanly possible so they can potentially dispatch him before he's ready and and move on to other things. I look that might be a side benefit but I actually think these networks lake having these boxing events in dead otherwise dead periods of Tommy. One of the under looked Elements to this. So we traditionally old Milo for boxing. Pay Per view is singled Mile Mexican Independence Day. You know you're doing a big fight. Big Pay per view event end. There's a lot of benefits to that. I mean people a habit in their minds. It's your biggest pay-per-view buying audiences the Hispanic fanbase Injure catering towards that fan base but there's negatives to and the negatives are that look sick on my weekend is always gonna be like first round. Nba Playoff game. Six or seven. There's the Kentucky Derby that day. Nhl If I think the NHL Playoffs started by that as well baseball's really into season there's a Laco in on end either. The Mexican Independence Day weekend is usually the wake two of the NFL season so design exactly in college. Football hasn't totally picked up at that point. But you're competing against a lot of other big events and the great thing you saw about this event is this was after NBA All Star Week. This was kind of a dead week and so it's great from a content standpoint for Fox in ESPN because they can just have their programs. You usually have nothing to talk about the talk this all week and it's a natural buildup they don't have to split time between. Nisan footballer this something else and you saw that. Actually when when mayweather fought Conor McGregor? They did it in sort of the dregs of August in his kind of the same thing. They had like two or three weeks. Just that's all anybody talked about because there was nothing else to talk about and I think in July that falls into that same category where it's kind of a debt week for places like ESPN and Fox that they have a lot of benefit of doing it then and that it makes it easier to promote the fight using their programs on F s one in ESPN ESPN two and it. Just it just feeds content. That they that they had they need big event content like that in in that feeds that be so I think whatever conspiracy theories you have about fear infrastructure is GonNa win the second fight in second of all then. You still have to make that deal. Which is going to be tough to make. I mean I you know I know when the money gets that big usually people figure it out but it's still a tough deal to make you know I think that's why. Espn Fox won it for a week like that in July. So whatever side benefit you're gonna get from you know from a fury. Aj potential fight that. That's not the main driver. I think the main drivers is you're doing with the network's one. Maybe I've been hanging around. He he does like to whisper these types of theories intimate look. How it's working out is exactly how Eddie heard wants to work out. All He needs is for fury to win that third fight. Because he's GonNa have Joshua who love and I just don't see Joshua having too much for problem a coup Brat who live at this stage of bullets career butts. You know if that happens. The timing will line up for a December fight between those two guys wherever that takes place. That'll be just a monster monster showdown between two of the biggest men and biggest stars in a boxing by the way before I let you go. You know we. You mentioned a couple of times. We talked about his own schedule. What the things I think has worked out great for zone last like two months has been. The results of some of their fights have not only been like good fights. Ryan Garcia big knockout over Fonseca. And and you had the fight this past week with Mighty Garcia getting a win but it all it all sets up for you know bigger fights down the Road Garcia wins on the same card as generous and you have a summer fight now. That may not be a mega fight or a major kind of pay per view level fight. But it's a high level boxing. Show where you put those two on there this past weekend. Mikey Garcia wins and you may get that fight with Mike in Saudi Arabia. But at least you have a chance of of getting that fight in Saudi Arabia. Hell Chocolate Tito him. Beating by. I mean you know. Chocolate data was the headliner on. Hbo You now can have chocolate. Tito headlining a show against Estrada. He could he could fight song beside for the third time. Try to avenge that loss. I feel like the last month. Plus even though disowned doesn't have those big fights on the schedule. It's been really good for them because they are going to have good fights on the schedule and not kind of one sided crap which is sometimes have had to deal with. Yeah they I think the one sided crap is okay when it sets up a bigger event and I think one of the things. Disown is realized. I'm sure is. It's the big events are really not only what drives your subscribers. But it's what keeps the hardcore fan base happy. No one's happy. Just seeing Ryan Garcia have a couple first round. Knockouts is long as we know that. There's going to be the promise of a bigger fight in. I don't know when he would fight Devin Haney. I mean they're obviously in the ring together. But if you're a hardcore boxing fan. You're really excited about that. So so seeing that. That's a that's a great way to do it. I mean that's kind of out of that you know. Hbo Used to do a great job with showtime to quite frankly that traditional p-a-k ler model of having guys ready to fight each other in kind of teasing out with your programming teasing out. What's GONNA come next in building in? I think what's key for zone is to have just every month or two you know. Have a really significant event and then have those two or three times a year where you have the true mega pay per view level. Big Time boxing events. That's what's going to drive their subscriber base. I don't think I think they've realized at this point that the weekend week out boxing. Even when you put on good solid fights that doesn't matter as much in terms of driving the subscriber base and certainly having Dimitrius Andrei. Win Twelve rounds. Two Zero doesn't doesn't do it either not not to pick on him. 'cause I like watching him fight but it eventually figuring out the big match up for him not just having him go in fight some guy that that even a hardcore fan like me is never even heard of and then you're like Ok. Well that was great but let's see him it. Was somebody really good like that? That's what you WANNA watch is setting up those big events yet. Little inside boxing. For people there was rumors that Jamaal Charles Oh was going to be at the fight in Dallas this past weekend the Mikey Garcia fight. And if he was Evan I was going to interview him and every word out of my mouth would have been detained for that. I said I would've said Jamal. You're looking sharp today. Have you seen to beat your Sandrine Jamal? Good performance back in December against talked to two android that would have been the extent would have been one of the weirder interviews anyone's ever and this isn't it would have just. This is something. This is something that boxing as a whole is starting. I think you're actually seeing it. You know you're seeing a lot more across all networks. They've started to realize that. Oh if we put on you know even if we put on a good fighter against nobody it's not necessarily GonNa draw a big rating. We need to collaborate together to make some of these bigger events happen and I think that's the exciting thing like you started to see a little bit more of that and you know we're point. There's so much. Boxing content out there in this day and age to truly breakthrough. You need the bigger fights. That's those are. What's I think we're seeing less and less.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But you have to hurry. The clock is ticking on the sale. It's ending soon isn't it? Tommy saved and slept like a champion shop. Now anything else about this deal Evan. That struck you that they found interesting. Or you're kinda wondering how it's GonNa play out. I do think given the talk about the piracy from the last pay per view. I do think how they work. How they deal with piracy issues worldwide is going to be interesting to me because that that's spent something traditionally that's been hard to to police especially when you're talking about putting digital content but it you know if they're able to do it if they have a plan for it than great so I I'm I'm very curious as to how go work that part of it And if there's going to be certain markets where they just don't have subscriber growth because of the piracy but That's that's my biggest question that comes as it's it's it's what countries had the infrastructure to support this Right now and are you gonNA face these piracy issues in there. I'm sure look. This isn't new. This is only new in sports. This isn't new in terms of content companies that that stream of Leiderman. You know there's there's plenty of other companies who've been doing this now for a while so this. This is new sports. That's I think that's one of the things to understand. I used to buy bootleg movies at the corner of New York. I I know piracy extremely well is there but I mean you were in this side of the business like is there a look. There was piracy and I want to get to this with fury and wilder. This piracy involving that fight. I know there was significant piracy with the Youtube Fighters Logan Paul and then Jake Ball with some of their fights I mean. Is there a solution? That's out there is is are the people that are pirating all this stuff or they just much smarter and able to get around things faster than the companies that want to catch them well. There's there's Long Syrian. I think especially with you know you're talking about pay per view especially at at paper V prices. There's long been a theory.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Infrastructure issues. That could be problematic going forward. But obviously at a certain point you just can't you can't enter market by marketing. Just doing the whole thing in. This is what they did there. They're going for the worldwide swing end. So we'll see. I mean that you know I would if I were them. I would be optimistic I think they've done it responsibly. In terms of wrapping up allow worldwide. But you know going back to the to the UK like that's the critical one. There's no doubt about it you know. Boxing is a great business in the United Kingdom the UK has a ton of great fighters right now and you can stage events in the UK in fact in the US. We've probably been stealing a lot of events from the UK and in those guys are waiting to longer have to watch it at four. Am or five Amit. You know the fact that there's still such a robust per view market for fights that early in the morning shows how crazy. How fanatical The the boxing market is in the UK. Right now you mentioned the infrastructure for some countries like how about this country like I go up to Vermont. I have a place up there. I can't watch zone. I live I live. I live at a booker up there. It's where my house is. You know it's not in the middle of nowhere by any stretch but you got like these the only service you can get of these data these data services data plans that you don't have traditional broadband. I had a lot of place in this country I went.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Rights to each show and while that looks good on your accounting papers because it basically brings. The net cost down to close to zero in some cases. What netflix figured out is? It's probably better just to build your brand worldwide and have the show costs more but own the worldwide rights to to everything. And then that way you just. You put your content out there and you're in a race to get as many subscribers as quickly as possible and then all of a sudden you know you wake up one day. It's not like Netflix was worth more than. Hbo Is Worth More than all of Time Warner so you call this a big swing by disown. Which certainly implies that if they miss on this big swing. There's significant downside. Where where do you see the risk in all this well Duh? The risk is that it's boxing and they're you know I think they're picking boxing because no one's really organized this well in the past and done this well You know I think if it turns out that a lot less people than they think are interested in subscribing to a combat sport based company worldwide. It might be tough to show how they're gonNA increase their total subscriber base. I mean I know that they're still gonNA WANNA make a big play for the. Us market no matter. What but this. This could work out really really well for them and some of it depends on how they price it in. How many events are really gonNA come to certain parts of the world where where? There's a lot of opportunity. I think. Look anytime you're doing. Something digital piracy issues are going to be huge. They're gonNA have to really police that well especially in certain markets. So there are it. This isn't an automatic. Home run traditionally. The boxing market for international has only been robust for really really big events. But one of the things you like about this is. You're selling the whole schedule. Not just one event here or one event there You're selling the whole schedule worldwide. So they're taking a gamble that that is going to end up making people subscribe and that's going to really add value for people around the world when I I. I got wind of this deal. One of the questions I had and one of the things I think that could make or break. It is is the ability to kind of become the the broadcaster for boxing the UK and that would involve pushing sky sports out of the match room boxing business. I firmly believe that is the plan for zone because their relationship with Eddie hearn and their understanding of just how big boxing is in the British landscape. But do you look at it. The same way as that being kind of pivotal moment or a pivotal turning point for disown. Can they become the the top boxing broadcaster in the UK? I think like that's the U. K. Is By far the the biggest they need to win that market? Absolutely but you're.
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"Quadrupling down at you know to your point up there Up Top and it's you know. I think like the first reaction. Just take a step back in see. What a big sweetness is like. This is really betting on the worldwide market in what we've known in. Boxing historically is boxing does travel well. It's a popular sport but there's really been a lack of infrastructure Other than a top few markets to really monetize the sport in they're taking a big swing in obviously what they're betting on is that initially whatever extra cash flow they would get by selling off. Canales Rights or whoever's writes In certain markets that they're GONNA to make up for by adding subscribers in those markets. And and that's a big risk but there's huge potential rewards for it. I mean obviously the worldwide subscriber base is. What's most important to them right now. And ultimately it's going to be great for the sport of Boxing Boxing. Really GonNA benefit from this. So yeah I mean let. Let's talk about how boxing benefits from that. I guess in the context to of what it means for big time boxing in the US. I mean right in the press. Release that zone put out there. It did say that they look forward to putting on international events and I think a Lotta people myself included looked at that and wondered. Would this mean fewer events that took place in the United States that we've already seen them kind of trend in this direction? You had the big fight between Anthony Joshua Andy. Ruis take plates in Saudi Arabia. The rematch of course take place in Saudi Arabia. They do a lot of business with Eddie hearn's company where the UK fights are broadcast in the afternoon here in the US. And I think one question I had. Evan was would we see more major events take place outside of the US and what that would mean for the US market in other words when they take a big swing at the global market. Does this mean that. They're they're less concerned about the. Us market well. The short answer to that is yet. You'RE GONNA see you're GonNa see it where you should see more bigger event outside the US market. I went into that but most of the business of boxing is based in the United States or the UK. So I I think what we've done with. Boxing is done in the past as a sport in some of this just because of lack of infrastructures. They say oh well. The biggest market is the United States. So even if the fighter is foreign let's go build him up in the United States and I think what zones thinking is will there's look let's use an example like Manny Pacquiao for instance like will there's probably a huge subscriber base who would love to subscribe to zone in Southeast Asia especially but you know in Asia as a whole and if you do an event out there you can still time it so that it's primetime in the US market that creates a lot of earned media publicity for zone in in those areas and probably increases.
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"On in boxing and now a man who I wish was called the Boston leader. It's sort of like getting punched in the face. All right. Welcome back to other episode of the SL boxing. Podcasts glad you could join this week and We're going to get back into the business of boxing. There's been some good fights over the last couple of weeks. Some really good fights to come in April and May but some significant sort of business. He stuff going on. I WanNa talk about that. What it means for boxing moving forward and no better guy to talk to about all that that ever. Hausky the former. Hbo Marketing Executive. He's got his own podcast as well as a lot of things in the world of boxing. Today Evan. Thanks for joining me. Once again for these types of discussions and Well I guess right off the Bat Evan. I want to talk about the announcement this week. That is going global disown. The streaming service which For everybody out there. That doesn't know this. I am part of the boxing. Broadcast team will put that caveat into this conversation with his own op but they have decided that they are going to just go completely crazy. When it comes to expanding into different markets currently they are in nine markets. They made a big splash by jumping into the United States boxing market. They will be in two hundred at some point in the very near future. May Second. The data cal has pencilled in offer his next bite. That expect to be the launch point of this expansion for disown. They're focusing almost entirely on boxing. At this point when it comes to this expansion which is good news for boxing fans if it means that they're going to be doubling down on their investment in the sport but it's certainly created a lot of conversation. Evan in the boxing community. But what this means for boxing. What means for boxing in the US? I guess give me your first reaction to disowns announcement and what it means for the sport. Well I think I think for the first reaction is this is a really big swing by the zone and you you have to admire the risks that they're taking here but if you've been paying attention the whole time you could kind of see that they were building to this. I mean they you know. I've been talking about than having casinos worldwide rights since they initially signed that deal with Camello en there's really only one logical conclusion to having that because his. Us rights are obviously the most lucrative rights that are out there. But there's plenty of other markets around the world where having canal or Anthony Joshua who I I. I don't think they have Anthony Joshua's worldwide rights as of right now but obviously they're they're going. They're planning on pursuing that. This is what they're building towards though. I mean they're taking a big bet on boxing. They're doubling gaming. They might be tripling..
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"Arabia. Hell Chocolate Tito him. Beating Calia fi chocolate data was a headliner on. Hbo You now can have chocolate. Tito headlining a show against Estrada. He could he could fight song beside for the third time trying to avenge that loss. I feel like the last month. Plus even though dissolve doesn't have those big fights on the schedule it's been really good for them because they are going to have good fights on the schedule and not kind of one sided crap which is sometimes. I've had to deal with Dave I think the one-sided crap is okay when it sets up a bigger event and I think one of the things zone is realized. I'm sure is. It's the big events are really not only what drives your subscribers. But it's what keeps the Hardcore Fan Base? Happy you know. No one's happy just seeing rang or have a couple of first round knockouts as long as we know that there's going to be the promising but bigger fight and fight Devin Haney there obviously in the ring together but let the Linares fight if you're a hardcore boxing fan. You're really excited about that. So so seeing that That's that's a great way to do it. I mean that's kind of out of that. You know Hbo Used to do a great job. With showtime to quite frankly is sort of traditional p-a-k Blur model of having guys ready to fight each other in kind of teasing out with your programming teasing out. What's GONNA come next and building and I think it's key for zone is to have just every month or two you know have a really significant bat and it had those two or three times a year? Where you have the true mega pay per view level. You know big time boxing events. That's what's going to drive their subscriber base. I don't think I think they've realized at this point that the weakened weak out boxing even when you put on good solid fights that doesn't matter as much in terms of driving subscriber base and certainly having dimitrius. Andrei wind twelve rounds. Two Zero doesn't doesn't do it either not not to pick on him. 'cause I like watching him fight but you know it eventually figuring out the big match up for him not just having him go Fight some guy that that even a hardcore fan like me is never even heard of then. You're like okay. Well that was great. But let's see if somebody really good like that. That's what you WANNA watch is is setting up those big events little inside boxing for people. There was rumors that Jamaal Charles was going to be at the fight in Dallas. This past weekend the Mikey Garcia fight. And if he was Evan I was going to interview him. And every word out of my mouth would have been Dimitrius. You ruined cheerleader. For that. Said I would have said Jamal. You looking sharp today. Have you seen to meet your Sandra Jamal? Good performance back in December against then. Have you talked to to meet Your Sandra? That would have been the extent would have been one of the weirder interviews anyone's ever and this is just. This is something. This is something that boxing as a whole is starting at the. I think you're actually seeing it. You know you're seeing a lot more across all networks. They've started to realize that. Oh if we put on you know. Even if we put on a good fighter against nobody it's not necessarily going to draw rating and we need to collaborate together to make some of these big events happen. I think like you know that's the exciting thing like you started to see a little bit more of that and we're just at the point. There's so much. Boxing content out there in this day and age to truly breakthrough. You need the bigger fights that's those Like I think we're seeing less and less right now. We were a year ago of guys making a ton of money to fight. You know fight where it's ace adverse beside and they know they'd win networks. Kinda of gotten the message that in order for them to really break through they need to make some of these bigger fights in whether whether you're in the subscriber business viewership business like with pay per view business. It's kind of same thing like it's you. You need to either work together or within your own stable. Start putting these guys in tough making bigger fights. That's what's GONNA breakthrough. I like this even on a business of boxing. Podcast I can still mentioned Dimitrius android or germ also an accomplishment. Even even for me. I haven't always appreciate it. Man always learn something when I talk to you. Thanks for joining me. People out there listening Follow Evan on twitter at fishing auto spot and threes follows podcasts as well which comes out every couple of weeks a terrific job of breaking down all the business news in box Kevin. Thanks for joining me. Ben Thanks A lot..
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"That wilder exercise that rematch? I mean look. He's GonNa make a ton of money even if the split does change for the third fight. He obviously still believes in himself based on some of the videos. We've seen the interviews that he's done but it really is Evan Leica. Let's say like a less than five month turnaround or right around five months. The turnaround to come back from a loss like that. I mean what do you think of the decision that while they're made to come back? Take that third fight. If I'm putting my manager hat on for for something like that It it still. It's I don't know what the minimum guarantee would be for the third fighter of game. Work that I know. They said SIXTY FORTY SPLIT. But they're still going to be a minimum pay each fighter. Whatever you're GONNA make it another fight isn't gonNA come close to the guarantee for that third fight. I'm sure so if you're just looking at it from a purely financial standpoint. I am not surprised at all that he and his team took the fight. I also think just from competent standpoint Deontay WILDER FOR HIMSELF. Probably needs to get in there and see if you can knock. Tyson fury down again eventually. Knock him out that you know to to regain his confidence. I can see why he want to get right back in there. If you're taking a very long term view at this especially if you put your manager head on what is best for Deontay Wilder 's career long term. I don't know that I would have gone right back into it Just maybe taken another fighter to to to build confidence backup. You can make a good case for that. The question is what what? Then are you gonNa make the third fight? You know if if you're GonNa make twenty five or thirty million dollars for the third fight right now. And if you don't agree to contractually and you're GONNA come back in after you know after you take another easier fighter to what's that guarantee can be if it's only gonNA be ten or fifteen million bucks to know you. WanNa take that that thirty five right now and maximize the revenue you can make from it and like. I said I think most reason that deontay wilder was the slight favourite at at a sports book in that most of the money coming in was actually on deontay wilder. You know a lot of people have a lot of confidence in his right hand in his sort of strategic ability throughout the fight to set it up and even if he's losing rounds not have that bother him at all and eventually landed do it you can look at the AJ. Ruiz I fight I mean. Aj took the equilibrium shot. And he came back in one the rematch There's every reason to believe that equilibrium shot in even. If if he sees prepared for this strategy new strategy from Tyson fury next time he can come back. And even. If he's getting outboxed you know have his wits about him in an eighth or ninth round just like in the first bite. Look for knockdown hopefully for deontay wilder this time. It's a knockout. Yeah in look you know. One of the things that I found interesting was new right off. The Bat said Bob. Arum said look we will move the fight to September October to give it some time to breathe if that's what they want that Arab comes back and says no the networks wanted mid July the MGM Graham Watson amid July by the way. Shout out to everyone. I'M GONNA see Summer League asking me for tickets in mid-july I enjoy telling you I have no access to any of them just to be clear on that right off the Bat But I I wondered like the conspiracy theory side of me. Evan is like did. Eddie HEARN'S IN BOB ARABS EAR. Saying you know look make this deal force them to fight in July and if you win that fight and look Eddie said he wants to do the fight with Joshua versus fury in December. Eddie says that a deal between Joshua and fury is incredibly makeable and Arum seems to be taking the same type position to that. They want to force while they're back in the ring as soon as humanly possible so they can potentially dispatch him before he's ready and and move on to other things that might be a side benefit. But I actually think these networks lake having these boxing events in dead otherwise dead periods of Tommy. What are the under looked elements to this? So we traditionally old model for boxing. Pay Per view is Cinco de Maya a Mexican Independence Day. You know you're doing a big fight. Big Pay per view event. And there's a lot of benefits to that. I mean people have it in their minds. It's your your biggest paper you buying audiences the Hispanic fanbase in injured catering right towards the fan base but there's negatives to and the negatives are that look sick on my weekend is always gonna be like first round. Nba Playoff Games six or seven. There's a Kentucky Derby that day. Nhl I think the NHL Playoffs will start by that as well. Baseball's early in the season. There's a lot going on end either. Mexican Independence Day. Weekend is usually the wake two of the. Nfl season so these aren't exactly in college. Football hasn't totally picked up at that point. But you're competing against a lot of other big events and the great thing you saw about this event is this was after NBA All Star Week. This is kind of a dead week and so it's great from a content standpoint for Fox in ESPN because they can just have their programs usually have nothing to talk about the game. Just talk about this all week. And it's a natural buildup. They don't have to split time between Nelson Footballer. This and something else and you saw that. Actually when when mayweather fought Conor McGregor did it in sort of the dregs of August and it was kind of the same thing they had like two or three weeks have just. That's all anybody talked about. Because there was nothing else to talk about and I think in July that falls into that same category where it's kind of a dead week for places like ESPN and Fox. They have a lot of benefit of doing it. Then and that it makes it easier to promote the fight using their programs on F s one in ESPN ESPN two and it. Just it just feeds the content that they that they have in they need big event content like that in in in that feeds that be so I think whatever conspiracy theories you have about fear infrastructure is GonNa win the second fight in second of all. Then you still have to make that deal which is going to be tough to make you know. I know when the money gets that big usually people figure it out. But it's still a tough deal to make you know I think that's why. Espn Fox won it for week like that in July. So whatever side benefit you're going to get from you know from Fury AJ potential. Fight that that's not the main driver. I think the main drivers is you're doing the networks want. Maybe I've been hanging around Eddie. He does like to whisper these types of theories intimate look. How it's working out is exactly how Eddie heard wants to work out. All He needs is for fury to win that third fight because he's going to have Joshua who love and I just don't see Joshua having too much of a problem with Cooper who live at the stage of dewlaps career butts that happens. The timing will line up for a December fight between those two guys and wherever that takes place that'll be just a monster monster showdown between two the biggest men and biggest stars in boxing. By the way before I let you go you know we. You mentioned a couple of times. We talked about zone schedule. One of the things I think has worked out. Great for zone. Last like two months has been the results of some of their fights have not only been like good fights like Ryan Garcia. Big knockout over Fonseca. And and you had the fight this past week with Mikey Garcia. Getting a win but it all it all sets up for bigger fights down the road like Garcia wins on the same card as Llaneras and you have a summer fight now. That may not be a mega fight or a major pay per view level fight. But it's a high level boxing. Show where you put those two on there this past weekend. We Mikey Garcia wins and you may get that fight with Mike in Saudi Arabia. But at least you have a chance of of getting that fight in Saudi.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Not only is it illegal. I think it's like a moral basically to watch something. But you know the pirate something that you're taking money out of the fighters pockets. Basically I understand what you're never gonNA be able to fully police it An at pay per view prices. I don't think there's not a ton of people who are out there who are going to watch it. Who were ready to pay for it. I mean if you're watching at home or you're doing a party or something like that. A pirated stream isn't reliable. So you know. There's there's a certain part with that kind of acting kind of ends but one of the things digital digital makes piracy a lot easier and so you do question especially with some of the youtube stuff you know. Don't really and that's why when I talked. I think we've talked about. This is well. This can't be a one off thing because this is a one off thing for you to fight than it's easy to pirate because no one thinks oh I have. I'm a fan of these kinds of youtube fights. I need to subscribe to zone. They stink. Oh I WANNA watch this. This is how I can watch this. But if they understand there's going to be four five of these year or whatever then they themselves okay. So I'm on subscribe to disown. This is worth it a do. It will have a solid the build up into the shoulder programming. Build UP I want. I want to make sure the stream works the whole time so that theoretically as part of the other than I think the UFC has done a really good job of staying on top of the piracy issues. But you've got to remain vigilant and there's no easy solution out there for it. Yeah I think piracy sucks. I also think that I agree with you. That people that are looking at a pirated stream were never going to buy something to begin with. I mean what was that video that was out there in Youtube of people watching a fight through the reflection of somebody sunglasses that and at the time I saw it on on some stream somewhere like you know the fuckers. That are watching. That are not buying anything. They're just not like if you're if you're willing to get a if you think you're getting equality experience watching a fight through the reflection on somebody sunglasses. I I got a first of all. Get a life second. You were never going to be in that that That buying mic. So you do want to see them. Be Vigilant you say said. Crackdown all that. But with the understanding that I would say ninety percent of the people that are trying to pirate this stuff. We're probably never GONNA do it to begin with so it. We'll see they're going to have to be created with all this because you do want to direct as many people subscribe as humanly possible. I'm all right. Let's turn for Second Evan. To to the fury wilder stuff and the numbers start to trickle out last week and I think we have a pretty clear idea of how that fight performed around eight hundred eight hundred fifty thousand give or take either way for or the final numbers for the pay per view the digital numbers especially on ESPN plus from what I was told they. Over performed up the numbers on the in demand and the cable company operators they underperformed. And that's what led to that number that number at least from what I was told by people involved with the fight. They they wanted to hit like a million a million one and that would be kind of their break. Even number eight fifty. If you want to top it out that comes in below that you know the stuff better than I do. Evan your reaction to to all those numbers and what it means. Well I think it is hard to come up with a break even number before you actually look at. What kind of buys you're talking about. Because a digital by is worth a lot more than a cable by in a lot of instances but it really depends because each cable system is going to have a different. A different percentage split based on how much they're supporting the event so some cable systems For satellite to they might do a lot of things in support of the event and the split is not as favourable for the fight. But they're actually doing a lot to advertise in market the event some cable companies might do almost nothing to do it in their split is going to end up being much closer to what the digital split is going to be so it's really tough to know what that break even number. Is You know ahead of time you can. You can estimates from my understanding. Was that it and it also. The other thing to take into account is our Fox in. Espn charging the on Air Marketing. They're doing for the fight like are they charging it against the promotion which I don't think they are so a super bowl ad. Well that's that's great but is Fox looking at that as we could have sold this for three million bucks or was always going to go to promote some kind of Fox show anyways. Let's give it to the pay per view where hopefully that publicizes it to the point where we can make more money back so whether it made money or not really comes in. I guess the biggest factors guaranteeing the fighter purses is it the promotion Is it. He's promotional companies at the network. You're really starting to get into accountant. Land on that and I don't WanNA put your viewers to sleep go into a lot of that but I do think eight fifty is probably a little bit below what they were hoping for based on how the digital performance was. I think you can definitely make a case that everybody's GonNa walk away. Relatively happy navy wishing could have been little bit higher. The million mark just sounds a lot cleaner and I think the big takeaway you want that you want. Espn and Fox to to do what they did. Last I mean they. They really did a great job on. They're on Fox. Espn of promoting this fight in a nets. That shouldn't be lost in Shuffler here. I mean there was a huge commitment from both networks to do that. And that's a positive thing for the sport. You don't want them to come away feeling option done better. We don't want to do a quick like that again like that really was important for both heavyweights. I mean these are not boxing. Fans you these guys starts in the United States wilder interior not household names. You know they. They really weren't anytime. You do. A pay per view where three hundred twenty five thousand buys in the first fight. Those aren't household names to get. Hopefully they are now but you know they weren't well this. This is something I've I've told people that have said. Oh man only did eight hundred fifty thousand buys. That's disappointing. This was a great fight and on paper for boxing diehards. They had to love it. It's a meaningful heavyweight fight but and you know this well from. Hbo One of the things that made floyd mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. And some of the Even Miguel. Cotto like around the million. Plus you pay per view by guys was because they had a depth of a body of work like they had spent years becoming those types of stars by fighting some of the best by fighting Ricky Hatton for both mayweather in Paki our Miguel Koto for pack Ya and Antonio Margarito and mayweather. Even before he fought. Delahoya was building a brand for himself. Fighting Diego Corrales Arturo Gatti and becoming these types of names. You like Middle America and nontraditional. Boxing Areas Deontay wilder is like they just don't like the there haven't been enough high profile fights that he's been in to kind of develop that following. I think that's would. Would I take away from most this? I think it's a solid number. I mean I personally don't well. I will discuss this in a second feelings on pay per view but the the you know. I don't care what what how much money somebody made. I watched the fight. I liked the fight. I wish there are more of those types of fights but the reason these things don't zoom past a million buys her gold near the two million that Bob Arum was. Projecting is because these guys. I'm fought anybody. And they don't have the depth of opponents. I don't think right well. They don't have the depth opponents that patio and mayweather and Koto and even Kello has had during their peak pay per view days. And and that's you're right about that and that's what people forget here is that you know floyd broke out by flay was already fighting. Pay.
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"You can kind of you have the length of time to analyze. What types of marketing materials work? What types of Margaret Mitchell's? Don't work on the marketing side. You have the programming programming sign analyze. What kind of opponents work and what kind of opponents don't work you kind of just you can build a strong hasten and ease our years years of established brands and then eventually get to pay per view and then there you can really work to event? Is he event and and through a series of both again opponents and then marketing strategies. You do you get to the point where this. This spider is truly pay-per-view star And that's just back ask years of having an established brand of of programming and having marketing people both on the media spend side and on the Material creation side who just have a deep institutional knowledge about the sport whipped type stuff works. How you can Place it out in in in different areas uh-huh. Hbo Was Great About Creating Little Ten or fifteen minutes. programs vignettes about certain fighters that were just really strong strong mark like like storytelling Vehicles and I think that really were to propel fighters into the next level and disown is in their first year of doing this. They don't have any of that yet. They're working to establish it. Yeah I think everything you you said there and correct me if I'm wrong. But it sounds like disowned could do that. HBO Didn't have this. This massive fire hose either to put guys out there in front runoff. They certainly had more subscribers than disown has. But it's not like they used Turner all that often or or use the the major broadcaster. They were partnered with all that often. They did it through. What you talking about? kind of vignettes and things like that and building guys that we do see that like zone being able to duplicate eight. That is that something they could a model could follow to build these stars. I definitely think they could. I definitely think they could and any if you one of the it critiques you have to lay on zones first year is they didn't do a whole lot of shoulder programming specifically for core fight fans a lot of their other program that wasn't just the actual fights was geared towards. You know casuals. Uh when when they're doing some of these countdown shows and stuff like that. They're just really short in their slick in the really well done. But they're short pieces that are meant to be put out on Youtube and create awareness in not really get core fight fans excited about a certain fighter basically. Yeah I do think that's something that that should be explored in in two thousand twenty for design a lot of things I think they do. You know the the awareness part of it too. I think is one of the biggest things for zone as they go into two thousand twenty and beyond. Because you know I'm reminded often of a conversation. I've had a couple of times times with Sergio where Sergio said like Mexican fans don't know what does own is like. They just they just don't and this. Is Sergio talk from from East. La Talking from his own experience. And you know one thing I think would be would be something worth exploring his having kind of when Logan Logan Paul Fought Kassai. Whatever you WANNA say about that fight one thing I thought Logan Paul did extremely well was? He created a video that was like a tutorial for how to download download disown. If I was working with zone the social side I would. Have you know every single fighter that fights network have something like that and have it into into the top of their social media profile top of their twitter profiles or facebook or instagram. And just explains how to get it in especially when you've got I mean they've got so many the Mexican or Hispanic fighters now. You've got Mongia fighting this weekend. You've got cannella coming back. And may even Mikey Garcia can attract that audience. That's the audience that I think could could make or break disowned by the the Mexican audience that that I think is still needs to be tapped into to a higher level. Yes that's an even going back to the Hauser piece as I think that's one of the things that he really articulated well Is a good point like we're trying to do the cable. The cable An satellite industry is one of the last places that usually it's an older demographic. I think boxing does now have it. Definitely has a younger demographic especially especially Hispanic that that will show up an African American as well but in terms of the older traditional fight fan. These are people who are still cable subscribers in. They aren't aware of how to download some of these things. I think in terms of disowns awareness act. I thought the partnership They did with at. I think it was a comcast is sort of bridges that is is one of the first ones to bridge that gap because what essentially what they started out by just by spending a ton of money. And when you're introducing this new brand and you're you're trying to court fight fans. It's really tough because they went really really broad. It did increase their brand awareness a lot but to search his point. You know boxing fans it still a you know. It's still a demographic that it's GonNa be there's GonNa be a gap there between understanding what First hearing about it understanding what it is understanding the value. Valued that they're presenting you and that's just I mean it's it's really tough what you said for the fighters Logan pulled it. I thought that was genius genius and I've actually pitched that on a pay per views before as well in terms of like. Hey you should just show. People had download In Watch what's your pay per view through through an APP because there's plenty of ways now through other distribution forms. Not Just your cable box that you can buy pay per view and and it totally makes sense and and there's a huge group of people that aren't getting that messaging just don't know how to do it. Yeah I I think finding those people and showing them how to do it make it easy for. I think that'll that's a big part of the success in in two thousand twenty and beyond For Zone of the US note. No doubt agree agree. The let me ask you one thing about What Eddie hearn's said to me in a recent podcast and it Kinda got cannibalized by a few people like Rick Laser had something and I actually Lance pug buyer at something? Something that I was. I was texting him in talking about Eddie said that he would like to see disown. Raise their monthly price from fifty like like from twenty dollars a month to fifty dollars a month and not just as a vehicle to get people to subscribe for the monthly pass. Basically saying like if look if you WANNA watch canal and you willing to pay fifty dollars great but we got this monthly pass option just to make that that started the annual pass just to make that so appealing that people just kind of have to go to it so that all idiots spying paying fifty dollars for one month. What do you think of that idea i? I think that's just a very boxing. centric idea you you know if for to really succeed in breakout in the American sports market. Eventually they're gonNA WANNA get the NHL or NFL Sunday ticket or you know an NBA A or mlb package and that fifty bucks. A month doesn't make a whole lot of sense. When you're in that type of world I think in the fighting it does make sense but disowned has ambitions beyond that end so I would say it might make sense right now? It might encourage the yearly subscription right now but if you accomplish your goals in you get to that point where you do get one of these bigger packages. How is that going to work? I I don't know So I would guess that the hesitancy from zone Internally there it is well yeah I agree and I think you're right is more of a fight fan centric centric thing and I think that he wants to make sure that every boxing fan is subscribed to the yearly pass than as opposed to just one offs. But yeah if you're looking at a bigger picture our plan. It is a little bit more more problematic. You know how you want your favorite athletes to elevate their play when the game is on the line will mattress firm wants you you to elevate your sleep because a better you is on the line you can literally elevate.
"boxing" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I don't have any updated information. But I'm confident that he'll be an active participant. Do you believe that it'll happen in the first quarter of twenty twenty on on Fox or wherever they don't know don't know don't know Couple things on that that boxing people notice point all the time on on Fox the the way that the broadcast operates. Where they I mentioned Terence Crawford and not mentioning Turns Crawford on the on the broadcast really kind of I don't say pretending he doesn't exist but not putting in front and center as a true top guy in the welterweight division? What what goes? What's the thinking behind that? Well you know I one of the issues with boxing is the alphabet soup of belts. And you know when we put up a graphic you know we're putting up the what we feel. Are the most important bouts and you know to us us. That's WBA WBZ IBF. Okay but you put back secondary title up there which is not real at all when he fought Thurman like that it was in a secondary position. So I I'm not asking to become a belt. Oh expert but W W is no different than WBZ is the one I want you look up the history of the WBZ can look off the IBM was raided by the F.. I mean I'm not saying I'M NOT GONNA say anything about these Individual belts but the traditional belts. The ones have been around the longest are the ones that we are going to recognize within our broadcast. Okay but if a PBC fighter gets the W. B. O.. Belt at some point you will not recognize that belt there is no. PBC fighter fighting in the W. B. O.. As far as I know they are they are not. I don't know if they're ranked or not. I'm not it sure how that ranked in there. Okay but if it comes to let's say for example Jamaal Charles fought to meet your android like that's WBZ title if he won that I mean if a guy if guys may not be ranked but they can win titles if they find a top tier guy. I think I'm I'm just trying to wrap my head around the Anti I. Don't I hate all these sanctioning bodies. I've been on record as saying it numerous times. You know what we're going to try to do with the PBC and we're on our way to do you this As things fall into place we are going to have a PC belt and a PBC champion. Let's say of of the heavyweight division so play this out and Ruis Beats Anthony Joshua again and eventually you have Andy Ruis deontay wilder. You're fighting for the heavyweight title. So do that potentially in the welterweight you could do that. At one hundred fifty eighty four pounds. You could do that at one hundred sixty eight pounds so so do you ignore if that's the case do what all PBC fighters consistently ignore the sanctioning bodies and fight only for PC belts. Because that's tough. That's tough getting guys guys like the hardware even if it is fake hardware. Well the PC belt would be hardware right but not everyone. If there's one guys love the secondary towns they pay actual money there are people paying actual actual money for franchise championships right now. None of this makes any sense to me and again this is what the too many title there's way too many titles but but you did acknowledge the secondary acknowledged secondary. WBZ well the WBA the WBZ and the are the traditional belts that people recognize. And that what you mean by Packing House Secondary Well I uh-huh disagree that the WTO is in recognized by everyone's recognized by by everyone like I. It's as long as I've been covering boxing. which is not forever but go back to the one thousand nine hundred and everyone's got their problems everyone's every organization the anti WBO sentiment? I don't get it's just that though that it's just that not mentioning Crawford's title is just the WB L. thing or is that the do with the fact that turns Crawford is not a Fox wider Well we mentioned other fighters whether it's you know canal or whoever it might be in our programming it has to do with Wbo sanctioning body so specifically that it isn't anything do attorneys wants Crawford Crawford didn't have that title. He would be talked about on. Fox Yeah I think so okay to move on the you've got one you put fights on there. I'm curious if there's any boxing connection to moving forward it seems like the there may be a plan plan to put more international events on F S to moving forward. There are a lot of international boxing events. That could be out there. Do you have any. Is there any interest in putting in boxing on f s to in the future. Well we have boxing to now so we have a preliminary fights for F s one cards or Fox Fox cards I guess independent events my. That's standalone kind of foreign fights. I guess is more my my question because we have a deal with with without the. PBC We so we are fully vested in the domestic fighters and and and the PBC so beyond preliminaries that are already there. Nothing now known legalize the other expansion talk as you get into two thousand twenty the whether shoulder programming or something more what what else can people expect from broadcasts from shoulder program from all of it in twenty twenty and beyond anything you might be working on right now. Well Well we've announced the Harrison Charles Oh rematch in December You know I think there will be a Julian and Williams fight coming up in in the first part of twenty twenty can't really get into The the rest of the first quarter But again they'll be you know twelve. They'll be about twelve F s one dates though be ten Fox dates You know in four to five pay per views. So we're excited. I think twenty twenty will be transformative year for a a lot of these fighters and I think you will see a lot of great matchups in calendar twenty twenty do you care about where the location of fights as TV broadcaster out. Imagine you'd want the best kind of crowd around it. The best atmosphere around a fight like that. You mentioned the the Harrison Sherlock. If I- terrific fight I have long been driving the Tony Harrison bandwagon of a good fighter. I mean he's Emanuel Steward's protege one of them. I mean that would have been a fight that and I thought you know Detroit would have been a great landing spot that finds dead. It goes to Ontario and I get why they goes to places like Ontario and fantasy springs and places like that but oftentimes you lose something in the aesthetics. I mean how do you how do you put position. Do you take on on that. Well if you have a great crowd in an arena that holds you know ten to fifteen fifteen thousand. It's a terrific atmosphere. It doesn't really matter where the what city it's in That's more important to us than the actual actual city. But you're more likely to get that crowd you're talking about in the city of of choice so to speak well The the the Ontario area will fill up that arena. No doubt I look forward to that. I'm going to fly up for that. I like that fight. I don't I I I love Tony. Ireson he's one of my one of my favorites followed him when he was going to He's he's the fight on Emanuel's Vladimir under cards in Europe like the first fight out when Vladimir Amir was fighting world championship fights and like the O. Two or wherever he was fighting them and Tony would be the first guy out there walking out with a manual in front of fifteen people and pissing me a great rematch excited. It's on Fox. The first one was on Fox do really well. So that'll be great. How do you just lastly Charles Brother Jamaal Charles who has? WHO's one of the middleweight? Champions right now with so many middleweight champions tied up across across the street. So to speak. Do you in like you encourage Al-Said like if you WANNA make a deal with somebody else to get him a big fight. It's almost like what Jose Ramirez did with Maurice Hooker. The Summer Ramirez came over to the side one his titles that went back to. Espn a much bigger fighter. Or you know he is a big deal because he is now the unified hundred forty on champion. How do you look at that when it's tough to find Al's taking care of Jamal? AL and putting him him on a path where yeah he might not be on our platforms For the next few fights but he'll come back So what So so as you know Al Does and talk to us not not a big big fan of the well. He doesn't talk to a lot of people so as someone that does talk to him. What do we what do we not know about about Al Hayman that you now know? The didn't before he. He is a extremely smart strategic thinker. who is is constantly thinking of the long term value of the P. B. C. and his fighters and He is a true gentleman. He just is you know somebody. That's behind the scenes. I appreciate you coming out from behind the scenes to talk about this this conversation doc..
"boxing" Discussed on 5 live Boxing with Costello
"Fans still love them you know boxing fans and most of the boxing media has has influenced them when fighters get beat the kind of write them off already so so if you take a different approach you'll see fighters be more involved in fighting each other if you do tournament style you're gonna eat all the great fight you on but then you can't write guys off either those names mentioned those eight nine die it sounds out forever just thinking about whether you know this is world boxing supercenters and really can't he come with with some of you have been too big for tournament mike that you had too much going on in your own singular i don't think so because i am i weigh about james to be the best i wanted to be the best you know what i mean front woman whenever a bunch of them one contender whatever it is that you don't have because to you can find vivian is social joe and no one would've i in and that's you know so you always went for me because that's one way in some bumps anyway you know so say we'll be at that time i was promised five seven time we wouldn't be here just say well before we give it or because it's been a president to delight one thing remember when he won his second world title he tweeted between rounds we did the fought on box nation streets it between rounds technologies so so what did how did that technically would explain it to someone in the guy right bar you would send you in ukraine senchenko so he was gone these telling the guy that was i was i was trying to be a pioneer myself upon upon it it didn't work nobody did it again do you you want want center cody.