16 Burst results for "Bowie Kuhn"
Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"While buster, how's it going? I'm good. Keeping trying to keep my voice down to some degree because I'm sitting in the airport in Salt Lake City. Have you ever been to Salt Lake City? Yeah, I covered basketball very briefly for Sports Illustrated and I flew to primarily to Salt Lake City to interview Greg ostertag, who was like the 7 foot center for the Utah Jazz. And I didn't have much time to do it. So I flew in, I met him somewhere. I got on a plane and flew back home. I just flew here. I just moved there to do one interview with Greg ostertag, and that's the only time I've ever been to Salt Lake City. And it was great. So that is the first and the last mention of Greg ostertag on the baseball tonight podcast. We have mentioned before by the blue, who passed away over the weekend. And you know, I had a couple people ask me about this on radio, like who's via blue. And I was trying to explain to him like there was a period of time, like 6, 7 year period, where he was one of the biggest superstars in the game, but it feels like he's been forgotten in baseball history. What do you think? Yeah. He's a borderline Hall of Famer buster. I mean, he won 209 games. He had a three 27 ERA, one of Tsai young and an MVP in 71 buster 71. He was a comet. It was unbelievable how big he was in 1971. He went 24 and 8, one 82 ERA struck out 301 guys came out of nowhere and was just firing and struggling as hard as any man you've ever seen at least at that time. And he was so athletic. He was so good. He was so colorful. My dad took his three boys to RFK stadium in 1971 because vital blue was pitching that day and he threw a four hit complete game and we were just mesmerized. We went there to see this comet who was coming through and his name was Vita blue. He got in some trouble later, but at the same time he was a wonderful man and you're right for that period for 6 or 7 years when the a's won three championships. He's right in the middle of all of that. And I don't think people truly understand how dominant a pitcher he was. Before I talk about what a big superstar was, you said, you know, he was a wonderful man. I've never spoke to him. Tell me about your interactions with him. Yeah, you know, he's from Louisiana, so he's a real Cajun. So we had a few laughs about eating Cajun food and what a wimp I am and how it upsets my stomach, but I love talking to him about those old a's teams and I also got him to laugh once because buster he's the last American League switch hitter to win the MVP. He was a switch hitter as a pitcher. It was in 19 71. So when we talked that through, he wasn't aware of that. He got a big chuckle out of it. So yeah, he had a big smile. He was a warm hearted guy. I really, really liked him. So two of the examples of what a big superstar he was in 1976, that, of course, is baseball was preparing for the first wave of free agents ever. You know, there had been a long battle between the Players Association and the Major League Baseball owners and they finally, the players did one free agency rights and so they getting ready for that, the fall of 1976 and Charlie Finley. It was, you know, the owner of the Oakland athletics was so angry about it. He just decided he was going to sell off his players and he attempted to steal three superstar players. One was Raleigh fingers, who's turned out to be a Hall of Famer lieber. He tried to sell him to the Red Sox for a $1 million. Joe Rudy all star outfielders tried to sell him to the Red Sox for a $1 million. He sold by the blue, Tim, for a million and a half dollars, and you know what happened next. Yes. And but that was typical Charlie Finley doing things like that as you know buster winner. When Charlie owned the a's, he wanted Vita blue to change his name to true. So he wanted his star pitcher to be named through blue Vida naturally stood up for himself and said, I'm not changing my name. Plus, how cool a name is that? By itself, Vida blue. We've never seen anybody when he came in and threw in 71. We just shook our head. Like, where did this guy come from and how good is he? Yeah, and the commissioner at the time, Bowie Kuhn stepped in and basically overruled those sales of the players in the best interest of baseball clause, something, by the way, that would never happen these days in terms of where the power shift is between the commissioner and the owners. And I think it was a year later. He wound up being traded in a deal with the Giants. It was a 7 for one, right? It wasn't gay. Right in the middle of that, the first baseman who was going, but that's how big of a star via blue was. 7 for one Tim. 7 for one. And again, I remember when they turned that deal down and when the whole team had to go back to the a's that was just craziness. The 70s and 80s were crazy in baseball. Yeah. Well, it was crazy in the 70s. It was crazy over the weekend in St. Louis. Where stuff happened to him that I've never heard of. I've never seen before. Wilson Contreras is one month into a 5 year 87 and a half $1 million deal. And it seems like that the cardinals have already waved the white flag on him being the catcher. Now they're sort of painting this as we're going to give him time to learn more about the staff and what he's done to this point is amazing, but it's hard to, you know, to paint this over to try to whitewash the situation, Tim, the Cardinals have seemingly given up on Wilson to treasures being a catcher because apparently they didn't hear what a lot of other teams are at, the Astros, the mets. I mean, even the cubs who decided to move on past Wilson guitarists that he's defensively challenged and because their team is such a disaster this year, they've decided to take him out of that role and now apparently put him into DH role. It's insanity. What did you think? Yeah, I'm as confused by this as anything as in a while. Because again, buster, when you have a power hitting catcher, you keep him behind the plate because you're not getting that production from normal catchers. This guy is different, but you're right. The cubs let him go in part because they knew he wasn't a great defensive catcher, even though he can really throw. But let's be honest, my goodness, they lost out of your Molly to one of the great defensive catchers ever. They lots are pitching coach and Mike Maddox. Adam Wainwright's been heard. Jack flaherty miles Michael is two very good pictures, haven't been very good so far. I can't believe this is all Wilson Contreras fault. And yes, when you're 11 and 24, you're searching for answers, you're trying to find something.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"You could leave larger playable foul territory than that at an average park at lower elevations. So the defense could try to steal a few extra outs and the game doesn't get bogged down terribly by extra dead balls. You just make it easier for defenses to cover the field and tougher for runners to go from first to third, though perhaps easier to steal bases. It's a suggestion with many implications. With this skinnier field, you could push the fences out a bit more in the outfield without enduring the same magnitude of effect as the one Coors field has due to its deep dimensions. If baseball were 10° different, how different would it be? So I have a historical example to bring to bear here because I'm not aware of any suggestions to narrow the foul lines, but the opposite was suggested widening the outlines and expanding the field in that way just by a few degrees. So I take you back to February 1970 and of course 1968 was the year of the pitcher. They made some changes, often bounced back a bit in 1969, but it was still sort of low, and they were still thinking of things they could do to try to increase offense. So here is a piece from the New York Daily News February 8th, 1970. Baseball's next attempt at beefing up puny batting averages will be an experiment at angling the foul lines to provide more outfield area where hits can drop safely. Commissioner Bowie Kuhn yesterday outlined this innovation to be tried this summer in the Gulf Coast rookie league. Under the plan, the foul lines starting at first and third base will be flared at a 3° angle toward the outfield fences. How would this affect fair territory in the newer parks with their 320 foot foul lines it would be widened by 12 feet at each foul pole overall it would be increased by 2771 ft² or by 2.8%. With these dimensions, hits that once barely curved foul would fall safely and as outfielders shifted to protect the foul lines, this would open up the alleys of left center and right center. These angled foul lines will be tried in 60 games of the Gulf Coast rookie league at a diamond in Bradenton, Florida during July and August, the effect on batting averages will be studied by baseball's rules committee to determine whether the change should be applied to the majors. Kuehn said he was intrigued by the idea when he read it in a letter from a professor to Sports Illustrated magazine. The commissioner added the experiment has the unanimous approval of the rules committee headed by Charles Seeger to and agreed with those who feel batting averages still are too low, et cetera, et cetera and we're not any lower than they are currently in the majors. What keyword especially likes about the new proposal is that it opens possibilities for increased hitting without changing anything fundamental to the game or doing anything to the baseball. I guess people could disagree on whether this is doing anything fundamental to the game. I guess you could say that it is the commissioner conceded that the new idea would be would run into trouble at some of the older ballparks like Yankee Stadium where the stands are close to the foul lines at Fenway Park and Wrigley Field he pointed out angled foul lines would run smack into walls that would shorten home run distances beyond desirable minimums, still he said the proposal had enough merit to proceed with the experiment I would not be unhappy with more hitting. He said. And so they said that there was going to be a special representative to keep data and that they would record how many times a batted ball landed safely in the area that was added to the regulation field. So I don't know exactly what the effect was. I do know that they did not adapt this measure at the end of 1970. They decided that they were not going to do this. So I guess they were not all that impressed or happy with the results. I can tell you that the league wide batting average did go up a bit in 1969 in the Gulf Coast league. It was two 32 and in 1970, it went up all the way to two 43, although from the sound of it, I guess they were only doing this in one park. Maybe. So the one in Bradenton, which, as best I can tell, is where the GCL pirates played their batting average, went up from two 24 to two 34, but this is something that was considered and frankly could still be considered because the batting averages are not much different, maybe even lower than they were in 1969. So you could bring this idea back. But Matt is proposing the opposite of this in order to counteract the effects of elevation. I do like the idea. I don't know enough to know if this would have the desired effect. Like if you were putting it in a place in Mexico City or whatnot, but I do like the idea of having the built environment be the thing that you try to use to counteract the offensive effects of extreme elevation rather than continuing to monkey with the ball and some of that might just be my exhaustion our inability to seemingly do that with any kind of specificity or at least the kind of specificity that we'd like to be able to have it be more predictable year to year. But it does seem like a fundamentally sound or approach
The Dan Patrick Show
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Nice moment there. I did reach out to Jim. I said, have fun. We will, and he said, thank you, my friend, Dan. But so I thought he was saying, thank you to me as a friend as well. Last night. But Fritz I know has been in touch with Jim, about having him on the show, and maybe we'll get him on this week. I know he's busy, but always good having him on as we lead into the masters week. All right, let me take a break. Last call for phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow, this day in sports history as well, and we're back after this. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast, be sure to catch us. Live every weekday morning, 9 until noon eastern, 6 to 9 Pacific, on Fox Sports radio, and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the peacock app. Hey, it's me. Raw Parker. 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We'll talk about games, catch up with some of my favorite NBA players, talk travel, food, music, who knows what else? What can't this can't do? If you are a basketball fan and you've ever wanted to know what it's like to live out your dreams of being in the NBA, this is your chance. Listen to Maxie on the mic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you go to get your podcasts. Once again, congratulations to Marvin, Marv madness. He won the celebrity racket challenge. As much as he tried to be a buzzkill, you rose above it, just like your huskies did, Marvin. No one believed in us. And we didn't stop believing. Yeah. I don't know if you can say that. It felt like there were a lot of people who believed in Connecticut. From the beginning of the tournament, getting in the tournament. Yes, they did. And the beginning of the year when they played really well when they were number one in the country. Okay. You put it that way. It's like the Klay Thompson, nobody believed in it. It's like, well, Dan Patrick definitely believed you guys from the beginning of the season. I know, when he said nobody believed in us when they won the title, I go, yeah, I did. When you wanted, they say, okay, nobody, but Dan Patrick's the only guy, then that would have been fair. I did believe in the Golden State Warriors this year. I do believe a lot in the Lakers this year. I do. I think looking good. They are. They're looking. It's because the west is not blowing me away. Like, I don't go, oh my God. I mean, the sun's, if it all goes right, I could see them going to the Western Conference Finals. But I don't know if those teams are better than the bucks or the Celtics and maybe Philadelphia. Yes, Pauline. Lakers are at the jazz tonight, their favor by 9, Lakers finish out with jazz at clippers home against Phoenix home against Utah. And they're going to get maybe the 5th seed. I think that's the best they can do is probably 5th. Okay. Let's see, more phone calls here, by the way. Cameron and Indiana. Hey cam, what's on your mind today? Hey, guys. I got a few key recommendations for you. Okay. But your first one is San Diego state cut it. Second one would be San Diego state. Kinetic? Okay. Well, we don't want to do something against San Diego state. They were a great story. This is about celebrating Connecticut. And that's what we're working on those t-shirts, but they'll be up on the website. Hopefully later on today. Sign up for the newsletter, information yes, and you were going to say? Obviously, today is about honoring and supporting Yukon. Yes, it is. You come. Cragen, Virginia, high Craig, what's on your mind? Hey, Dan. I had an idea for your base. I think it would make a great bar school because you already have that post hanging down is the easy transfer. Okay. Well, we can look at that. I was talking to the big German during the commercial break. And I said, where can I put the base? And he said, well, I recommend not drilling into the floor here. And I said, okay. All right, so we're working on that. But the commissioner Major League Baseball, he said he was going to send one of the bases, one of the old bases since they're using pizza boxes now. Still waiting for Bill Bradley to send me a pair of his shoes that he wore when he played for the New York Knicks. He said he had quite a few pairs. A Todd have we heard from the great Bill, we have not. I know it's going to happen, but I will follow up in case I slipped their minds. That's okay. Bill Bradley, it's like a slip of his mind. This day in sports history, Pauly, got a couple 1974 Dan Hank Aaron tied Babe Ruth's Major League Baseball home run record at 7 14 this day. How long did it take him to go from 7 14 to break? And it was a couple days? Well, he hit 7 13 in Cincinnati, I think, off Jack billingham. Was that the previous season? Well, he had, he entered the season. No, because they opened up in Cincinnati. And then he was going to take a game off, I think, the commissioner Bowie Kuhn was at the game at riverfront stadium and said you have to play and then he didn't Homer and then he went to Atlanta and then hit the home run. But I think he was too shy to end. Yeah, that sounds right. To start the season. 1986, Wayne Gretzky said an NHL record with his 213th point of the season. His stats are silly. Blank became the first player in national league history to hit three home runs on opening day 1994. Okay, I know his nickname, do you know his first name? His nickname was toughy roads, and he played for the cubs Carl Carl, tough he roads. Carl Carl. Carl. Hey Carl. I think he had three on opening day and finished with like 12 on the season. I think he maybe less than that. Let's see. On this date, some great NCIA moments, Lorenzo Charles from Derek whittenburg, as NC state beats Houston, Danny Manning, Danny and the miracles. I was at that game, Kansas over Oklahoma, 1988, and on this day. Chris Jenkins hits the three pointer at the buzzer to win a national title, Villanova over North Carolina. Coming up tomorrow, Mike tirico is going to join us. And Sharif Abdul Rahim. Why are we having Sharif abdur Rahim on other than he was one of my favorite players when I did highlights of the month? Well, my Sacramento king, your kings are doing great. He's the president of the G league. We can talk a little bit. All right. This day sports history. I think I remember Craig Kilborn doing a little Sharif don't like it. I think it was him.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"In October 1979, maze accepted a job with bally's park place hotel, a casino in Atlantic City, signing on for ten years at an estimated $1 million, maze's role at the casino as special assistant to the president was reportedly focused on outreach, not promoting gambling. A UPI article quoted maze as saying, I'll have nothing to do with the gambling end of it. They need me for community work to tell the people citizens of Atlantic City. We don't want your land that we're trying to contribute something instead. Baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn informed maze that he would have to disassociate himself from baseball if he took the job, meaning that may has had to resign from his post as a special hitting instructor for the New York mets. Maize was upset with the ruling, saying baseball has been very good to me and I've been very good to baseball. I just hope I don't have to stay out all my life just going out on the field sometimes means a great deal to me. Some people retire and don't miss the game, but I do. Maze ultimately decided that taking the job was in the best interest of himself and his family and cut his ties with the game of baseball several years later in 1983, Mickey Mantle met the same fate when he accepted a job with Atlantic City's claridge casino hotel, both legends were ultimately reinstated by commissioner Peter Juba in 1985 and David notes that this might be a slightly better known story than some past blast, but in an age in which professional sports in general have begun to welcome sports books with open arms. It is nice to remember a world in which merely associating with a casino was frowned upon and led to being banned from the sport. So yeah, sometimes you hear people say that it's hypocritical of MLB to ban players from even bedding and I don't think it is exactly I think they still have to draw that line in the interests of the integrity of the game. But yeah, it's discordant when you have the league at the same time promoting everything and that is the real difference here where in 1979 or even in the early 80s you had absolute all time legends of the game in great figures who you would want associated and around the ballpark like Willie Mays and you bet them for baseball just because they're promoting casino and not even really directly involved in gambling. I mean that's how things have changed because obviously now it's open season on that. Yeah, I would be fine. I would be fine with players and anyone else's affiliated with a team continuing to not be able to bet and major league baseball having far less to do with betting. And then, you know, if a guy wants to be a I don't want to say greet her because that sounds, but you know like I think that these are importantly different behaviors and associations than like a player or a person affiliated with an org in an active way, even if it is sort of a tertiary role. Having doing the bets, like we gotta can't open that door. I think that door has to remain close. Even if they're betting for their team to win, still gotta draw that line. But, you know, the rest of it, it's fine. Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with the players getting their cut when the league is obviously getting its cut. I don't know that it's great for society as a whole that anyone's getting that cut, maybe. And we've seen that countries European countries, other countries that were ahead of the U.S. when it came to legalizing gambling. They have begun to just reap the consequences and have begun to ban certain types of advertising, right? Like just today I saw that Belgium had banned gambling advertisement as of this July, you won't be able to advertise gambling and TV, radio, movie theaters, magazines, newspapers, and in public spaces and also online advertising too, and then as of 2025, there will be a ban on advertising in stadiums and then in January 2028, you will no longer have gambling companies able to sponsor professional sports teams, right? So and the government that endorsed this ban argued that there had been a lot of research as there has showing that advertising encourages gambling addiction and gambling debt and all of these things. So you're seeing that in these other countries that were ahead of us on the timeline starting to pull back and say, uh oh, and we can't have celebrities and sports figures endorsing these things. And so you might project and say, well, the same number of years down the line, those measures will be introduced in the U.S. too, but I don't know that I have that much confidence that that's the case and that anyone will ever turn off this spigot, right? And obviously there would be consequences for the media and sports media, too, right? If all of those advertising dollars went away too, so there could be not so great consequences, but there are also not so great consequences of just being bombarded by this messaging all the time at least for people who are susceptible to it. Yeah, we've talked before about, you know, I'm hesitant to be like overly paternalistic with this stuff. I do think that there's a lot we don't understand about how the technology interface exacerbates sort of underlying issues folks might have around. Restraint with this stuff, mostly like I could just stand to be less relentlessly advertised to in general. Like this advertising certainly stands out to me as particularly annoying because I just don't care I don't care I don't care. So it grates in a special kind of way, but like what if we were just advertised to less, you know? Like, everywhere. Effectively wild. At all. What if that was just not? Or at least it should take longer, you know, like the speed of the algo is so disconcerting man because Google something and then it's instantly on your Instagram and you're like, let me pretend at least stumbled upon this organically. You're ripping away the artifice in a way that I find really obnoxious. Lie to me a little bit. Wait, your advertising. You're already doing that. Correct.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"And this logo, which I had never seen before, is sort of a flag with a baseball on it, made of negative space, so there's white and there's blue and red on the flag, and then underneath that emblem, it just says baseball with a lower case B and I'd never seen this logo before. I didn't know that there was an MLP logo before the famous batter icon. And I looked up this logo and I found it on sports logos dot net, which is a wonderful website, run by Chris creamer. It does what it says on the tin. It just hosts a ton of sports logos, and sports logos dot net has this also listed as an MLB logo that was in use from 1960 to 1975, but there is no other info on it there, and I couldn't find anything just doing a cursory search, so I got curious and did a deeper dive and it turns out that that listing isn't quite right. It wasn't in use from 1960 to 75. In fact, that was about a decade early. This logo came into use in 1970, and it was an initiative of Bowie Kuhn, the then commissioner, meaning from an article in July 1970, headline baseball consolidated under unifying simple for the first time since organized baseball was consolidated under the leadership of a commissioner, it has a unifying simple called a banner Mark, which can be used by amateurs and professionals from little league to the majors, focus of the new visual identity program is the banner mark symbol themed to the action and excitement of the game is believed to be the first such integrated graphics program for a national sport. Baseball's new symbol is the work of the industrial design firm of demartin, morona, and associates New York, quote benner Mark, abstractly suggests a flag spiraling out of a baseball, the red, white, and blue color scheme reflects the sports national origin the designers noted are objective was to provide a universal emblem for everyone connected with the game from fans and spectators to those in the cooperstown Hall of Fame. So it says baseball on the logo because it was intended to be a logo just for all of baseball. Any kind of baseball anywhere any level. It's delightfully 70s looking. It actually kind of resembles the famous Pepsi logo, although it looks most like the version of the Pepsi logo that came in in 1973, a few years after this MLB banner Mark, and here's the story from August 1970, it all started in March when commissioner Kuhn has to Martin morona and associates to Martin's firm, Ed to Martin, was the designer of larchmont to design a symbol that would identify baseball wherever it is played from little league to the majors and in every country. His firm was chosen for the job because they had recently completed an image campaign for the Philadelphia Phillies, which included uniforms in the stadium color scheme. The banner Mark gives baseball a flag of its own a banner to display proudly over the international world of baseball announced commissioner Q and for the first time in baseball's hundred year history, it can have a visual identity, mister Martin noted. He suggests that the banner Mark might become the symbol for the championship of baseball in the past, the World Series winner has merely flown a flag that says world champion over its stadium, and it was first used that year 1970 on a new trophy presented to Henry Aaron as the top vote getter in that year's all star fan poll. It was also on the trophy presented to the most valuable player of the All-Star Game. I emailed Todd radham, the famous sports logo designer and authority who has designed some all star team logos himself, and he said a favorite of Bowie Q and it appeared on a range of official correspondents awards and ceremonial distributed trinkets such as cufflinks and Thai bars, Peter yubara cut it loose as soon as he was installed as commissioner, which was in early 1984, but they must have already designed or manufactured the 1984 All-Star Game MVP trophy by then because the award that Gary Carter received after that All-Star Game included the banner mark at the top, probably for the final time. So there you have it. It was not actually an MLB logo. It was intended to be a logo for all of baseball. It was a buoy kun hobby horse that didn't really catch on seemingly anywhere else or with anyone else, but it was kind of an early effort I suppose to unify all of baseball under an MLP initiative in a less heavy handed way than rabb Medford typically operates. There was also a 1976 national league Centennial logo that looked sort of similar designed by dick Perez also had a flag and those kind of colors on it, but it did not predate the famous batter logo. It was not 1960 to 75, it was 1970 to 84 or 85. So now you know, maybe we should bring back the banner Mark. It's kind of cool and quirky. I'll link to a bunch of clippings and info on that if you want to see the banner Mark. I should note that on the sports logo site, there's one that doesn't have the text that just says baseball on the bottom, and then there's one that has it in blue and an uneven kind of handwritten looking font. That isn't quite right either the official one as I saw it was black text and more even looking, but still lower case B all right, a few follow-ups for you here. One of the hazards of the team preview series is that sometimes after we preview a team, it will make a move. That seems to be happening less this time around just because teams made so many of their moves early in the off season, but occasionally we will talk about a problem spot, and we'll say what is team X going to do here, are they going to go get someone and then after we do the preview, they go get someone. So case in point, last week, we talked about the fact that the Texas Rangers left fielders projected to be worse than any other teams left fielders, and that the White Sox second baseman projected to be worse than any other second baseman. So since we did those previews, the rangers signed Robbie Grossman to play some left field, and the White Sox signed Elvis Andrews to come back and play some second. So problem solved, right? Weak point strengthened? Well, yes, sort of, except what we said on the previews is still true. Even with Grossman, the rangers have the worst collection of left fielders, according to the fang GRAS step charts projections, and the White Sox still have the worst projected second baseman. It's a lot closer than it was, though, they're only like a tenth of a win behind the 29th best projected team. So that's progress. We also talked last week about the Mariners and what they might do when they retire 51 for each row would they also make that applicable to Randy Johnson who wore 51 with the Mariners, and we were sort of skeptical that they would. Some people wrote in to us about that. Now we weren't skeptical about it because we were saying that they couldn't retire the number for multiple players because that has been done in 1972, the Yankees retired number 8 for Yogi Berra and the aforementioned Bill Dickey in 1997, the expos retired number ten for Andre Dawson having already retired it for rusty staub in 1993, and then in 2009, the cubs retired 31 for Fergie Jenkins and Greg Maddux and Maddox isn't such a bad comp for Randy Johnson, right? And that he started with that team and then went on to another team where he had even greater success and is associated with that franchise perhaps even more closely. So the Mariners absolutely could retire 51 for both of those players and I think they should. It just doesn't seem like they've given any indication that they will do that and when he was asked about it in 2018, Randy Johnson said when ichiro retires, the Mariners will retire 51 and that'll be ichiro's number. He went on to say that he had heard nothing about the Mariners retiring it for him, which of course could have changed in the intervening years. But he did already go into the hall as a Diamondback and he's already in the Mariners Hall of Fame. I'm not a Mariners fan, but I'd be in favor of a double retirement.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Some size at the end, just like at the beginning. So part of the reason why I think they're fan base is in the mood that it is in, is that they got promised a lot. They got a lot of talk about multiple championships. They got a lot of talk about how the White Sox basically sold 2016, 2017. At least bet at the time, we had not seen a team that had like two friendly rotation starters locked up on a really team friendly deals and even at the time had a meeting it was a big trade asset. We had not seen the team that had that level of core in place with that level of value stripped out. And so this was supposed to be this big rebuild that set them up for good for the long term. They're going to be a dynasty the way the Astros have become where they're annually in the playoffs regularly and you could have a 5 to 6 to 7 to 8 year competitive window where they have multiple World Series appearances in there. So I don't think there's really any way they can match up with the level of expectations they set. I think any reasonable standard would just be winning the Yale central getting back to playoffs winning a playoff series being relevant in the late playoff discussion. All I think would be a reasonable successor seems certainly given what was actually put into this off season, which was more two real major additions, one, which is now Paris fraught around the core that that's probably a reasonable expectation for them if everything goes right. I don't really think that given what they've sacrificed for this to be the competitive window given the fact that kind of abundant three years and hyped us up as a time where they'd be annual contenders. I don't think just when he had division is really going to satiate their fans because they were promised a lot more, but I think just looking at this rasa day and what they have, I think that if they won the AL central, they won 93 plus games. I would certainly write that Pedro go folded a really good job with what he had. And it'd be hard for me to give another F to the front office if the pieces they put together delivered that. It's hard to win the divisions. I would know because I covered the White Sox now. They haven't won that many. So I think that's what a success is. I think when he a playoff series, they haven't won one since 2005. Even if they just get flattened in the LCS by an Astros or a Yankees team that I think is a tier above them, I think that'd be a successful year. But theoretically given that they were 81 and 81 last year and really bad that maybe even worse from a run differential perspective, even just add winning 90 games and being a wild card team or just being in the hunt all season long and just looking better, but obviously better, but there's this gulf between what they say to their expectations where and what I think is actually reasonable to expect from the group that they've assembled, which is a lot more just, you know, win a bad division. I think that'd be a good year for them. Right, well, we will see if going to summer school can help the White Sox salvage their GPA. You can read about their studies, I'll see you some lung at the athletic, and you can find James on Twitter at JR vegan, James, thanks, as always. I thought this had to end with me doing a prediction is that sometimes last year. Yeah, we've scrapped it. But if you've got one holstered and ready to go, I don't want to waste your time. If I'm out, I don't have to be wedded to some prediction. I would definitely not do more than what's required me. I will take, I will give a sea level performance where I do nothing above. What is it? Perfect. Okay, we will conclude with the past blast, which comes to us from 1970 and from David Lewis and architectural historian and baseball researcher based in Boston. David writes, 1970, Finley covers his bases. In 1970, ever eccentric athletics owner Charlie Finley was, as UPA put it, at it again. In an effort to liven up opening day in Oakland, Finley requested and received permission from baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn to use bases painted a bright gold on a one game trial basis. The experiment called for first second and third base but not home plate to be painted, finlay was quoted as saying it should make players want to reach base more often. Which is an interesting hypothesis. Should it? The fact that the bases are painted gold is the idea here that we will fool the players into thinking that they're golden that they get to take the bases back with them. I don't know that it would make them want to reach base more often, but I guess it's pretty to look at. Continuing here, adding to the opening day spectacle, a's pitcher Jim mudcat grant was tapped to sing the national anthem, reportedly the first active player to do so. Finley evidently liked the experiment enough that he suggested colored bases as a permanent rule change at the 1970 winter meetings in December. This suggestion, along with a proposal to add a 22nd pitch clock, was ultimately rejected by the playing rules committee. So finlay, he was et cetera is a good word for it. He was ahead of his time in some ways, and he was a showman and promoter and he liked some sideshow elements and he liked colors, colorful uniforms, colored bases, colored balls, right? Orange colored baseballs. Initiative, but colored bases. I don't know. I mean, it's similar to today where we're talking about a change to the bases and an actual pitch clock. So finlay would probably be pleased about that, but I guess you would be disappointed that the bigger bases are still just plain old boring white and not break gold. Yeah, I mean. Wow, wow, could have had an even better photo up. Short air in Arizona earlier this week if the basis were not only bigger, but bright gold. Gold. You know? Championship bases. It's like when it's like when a club wins the World Series and then their numbers get to have the gold outlining, you know? Yeah. Maybe someday. Maybe someday. All right, that will do it for today and for this week. Thanks as always for listening. RIP to Tim mccarver, who died on Thursday at age 81, 21 year playing career, two time all star, two
Planet Mikey
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Planet Mikey
"It for you here. This is Bill Lee, the space man. Mikey, I have seen the promised land. It's in Smith falls Ontario in a Hershey plant. 750,000 plants. Believable. It takes fucking the whole sun the fucking hit that place. I'm telling you, I've seen the fucking spin machines. I've seen the chemistry. I've seen the fucking dried out ganja. I have seen the hash. I have seen trays of vitamin E oil, but it's not. It's THC. I have seen from slam. He was into it. I think so. You know, this is the first man ever to admit publicly that he imbibed marijuana, but we killed the commissioner find him. He's on the cover of Sports Illustrated the cover of I Times Magazine. And they asked him, what if Bowie Kuhn find everybody in Major League Baseball $250 that smoked marijuana Bill said he'd be a very rich man? 250 bucks. That's what the fine was back then. Nobody made any money. And the entire pitching staff but one was smoking pot. Everybody except Louis tea. TM was the only guy I didn't smoke smoke weed on that pitching stuff in the late 70s. Everybody else did. And they used to gather every night in a hotel room and just get baked. Which is great. Now, I have a lot of deep thoughts on some of these political topics, but I don't know. I'm in such a good mood. I know politics. I don't even I mean, I could go on and on about, you know, the written House case, because I'm gonna let the pundits make assholes out of themselves on this. Good idea. Was he stupid to go there with a gun? Yeah. Was he a murderer? No. He's defending himself. He was defending his parents. His grandparents. Businesses. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. He didn't shoot anybody. Then people come and attack him with guns and skateboards and whatever, and then he had a defend himself. Now, should he have been there no, obviously if you go back and ask him, I wish I hadn't done that. He didn't just start shooting people. He wasn't a killer. They attacked him and he had no choice. He was 17 years old. He's like, well, I would have done these if I had a gun and I was stupid enough to be in a situation like I don't do the same thing. 17. And almost everybody this world would have defended themselves. Under those circumstances. Yeah. I don't think even if the tables were turned. It doesn't have anything to do with racism or, you know, and all these people demonstrating about it. You know, oh, he's a killer that got away with killing two people? No. OJ is a killer. It got away with killing. That's what I'm saying. Check out the juice. And say anything about Jewish people. No one said you did. You talk about the juice you just said. Juice. Oh, sorry. Yeah, the juice here. You misheard you. I like when people listen or hanukah episode. I think when people say I misspoke, well, you say that after anything, you know? Anyway. You know, and then this guy with a parade. You know, this guy's got a 1999 his first criminal offense was 1999, 20 years of crime. And I guess he just ran over his baby mom. He ran over his baby's mom. Baby mama and then got out on a $1000 bail so he could run over an entire parade of humans. And he's out on bail again. No, he's not. That's I think so. They're not going to let that guy out. After that parade thing, man, that was bad, unbelievable. So we had a tough week of reality. And reality TV is honestly, you watch the news, right? And that's reality TV. Reality is bad enough. I don't need to watch any of these shows about hot wives of Atlanta or my 400 pound mother. You know, whatever it is. They got all these reality shows. I don't care to see that, do you? I can't fucking Stan them. Doctor pimple popper have you watched that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I feel like that is so fucking gross. Yeah. After dinner dosage of pus. I like her attitude. Though she's good, she's a good doctor. Oh, the pimple popper? Yep. Well, you know who should have had a pimple popper? His own personal pimple popper. Who's that? Randy Johnson? The picture. Because he had a lot of pimples. I did not know that, but Randy poor guy. He had bad skin. The big unit. Okay, two random things I'd like to mention, I get like you guys. What? The big unit. The big unit. So you can't call him that. Well, yes I can. Charlie Kravitz. So just your comments on this. They're going to have a thing Ed Sullivan is going to be portrayed by Jay Leno. Have you heard that? Or are you Netflix movie or something? And the guy that's going to portray Ed Sullivan and this is Jay Leno. Does Jay Leno look even remotely like and so it could take some serious makeup. Maybe when they were choosing it, maybe it was I had to have been looking at his face. He's got that giant. He's going to have to have a reduction. He doesn't sound like him. I think it's CGI. Why the hell are they making a movie about edsel? It's not about edit so it's a character in another movie about. It's about some band or I don't know. Anyway, but it's like a walk on. Yeah. And he's gonna be, I'm thinking to myself, that's about as far. Now I can do it so I want to see it. Yeah. Well, you are not tonight in our show. Topo gigio. See? Does not don't I look like him when I talk to him? Motherfucker. Speaking of Ed Sullivan and some band, are you excited for the get back The Beatles document? I am. Any unseen beatle footage that I haven't seen, I want to see. Everybody on earth is going to be watching. I mean, I love The Beatles. And I know everything about them. And except whatever is going to be in this. Who's your favorite beetle? I don't have a favorite beatle. Fuck you pick one. No, it's a tie. It's a tie between John and Paul, but I mean, see the things we don't love Ringo for his creative influence in The Beatles. You love Ringo for his ability to meld with The Beatles while they were creating. You know what thing about being a drummer and a Ringo is one of the best drummers he is a creative drummer he plays like a melody. Right. Like when you listen to me, you can hear all of his stuff like pick any song and it's the drumming as you. Yes. It's very unique. Took it to ride. I'm doing it right now. Can I bring the drums in here? The drums on the song something that George Harrison. Tremendous. And Paul did a wonderful. See, that's the thing. Anybody wants to argue that they weren't the greatest band in the history of popular music can go kiss my ass? I had a big strength, yeah. Who's your favorite beetle? I like them all. I'm wanting like Mikey. See, John was the lyrical genius and the anger and he was the passion of anger in that band. Paul was the light and breezy melodic tune week. Love tunes. Yeah, two and weaver. He weaves the words, but they were both brilliant for so long. 6 years, there's no band that's done what they've done. Period. And then you say, well, they didn't 6 years. And you say, well, Springsteen's been around for 30 years. 35 years. More than that, keep going. Whatever. 40? 45 years. By the way, what has he done to his face? He had some plastic surgery. Yeah. Well, he had that scrotum frog surgery. Well, it didn't look it didn't, I don't know, it just changed to me. It doesn't look like I think he looks great. Well, call me, and ask him what he thinks because he's a big, big fan. I would get into all this stuff about the border, but it depresses me to know that fentanyl is coming through a border along with a 1.6 million uninvited guests. So I will not talk about that. Don't talk about it Mikey. It's going to bring you down. But I do want to say this, a, stay away from cocoa puffs. B, if you score a touchdown or make an interception, don't pound your chest, okay? We saw it. We saw it on the replay. Found someone else's chest. We know it was great play. Don't pound your chest, look at me. That's bullshit. I'm sick and tired of it. You want to high 5 somebody? Put the finger number one up in the air when you're running off the field after victory? Fine. You know, I think Brady handles success very well. And let me say this about football if you don't mind. Bill Belichick is God. Tom Brady is Jesus. Who's the Holy Spirit? It's me..
Ball & Buds
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Ball & Buds
"Never forgot that snub in one thousand. Nine hundred. Seventy three hank. Aaron hit forty home runs leaving him. One shy of the record at seven thirteen. That off season opened up a world of commercial opportunities. Even though hank aaron received very few promotional opportunities in his career offseason manufacturer magnavox signed him to a five year. One million dollar contract in anticipation of him breaking babe. Ruth's record but trouble was brewing. As spring training loomed braves ownership had said that it intended to keep hank aaron out of its opening three game series in cincinnati so that he could break babe. Ruth's record back in atlanta. During their homestand. They're going to be selling. Tickets are going to be getting all their fans there. So hank aaron was amenable to this he wanted to please the people of atlanta. He felt he owed it to them. But here comes bowie. Kuhn that said he had to play at least two games in cincinnati citing the integrity of the game. No mr kuhne. The integrity of the game would be letting hank aaron break the record in front of his fans in atlanta. Nevertheless heck aaron was in the lineup opening day. Luckily healy hit one home. Run right. luckily you only have one after that seven. Fourteen flashed on the board but atlanta to not put air in the lineup for game. Two to not threaten the record after that bowie kuhn actually threatened them with penalties. If hank aaron was not in the starting lineup in game three how are you trying to make it harder on this man instead of letting them hit the home run and earned the record in front of his home fans. Making it better for them. That don't make no sense to me because you're gonna make more money on the game anyways if you play it in atlanta. Luckily healthcare went homeless in any case and they went home. F- following monday to play the los angeles dodgers before a record crowd.
WGN Radio
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Somebody called in a moment ago and said, What was the name of that book You were talking about? Hank Aaron and the home run that changed America. By Tom Stand. The book Isolde came a long time ago like 10 15 years ago. All turns the Patriots see if I can see it real quick. It's Hank Aaron and the home run that changed America. It was published in 2004. There's a lot of this, You sort of go. Oh, yeah, I remember about that. And then some of it you didn't know it all now you and I weren't studying it that closely when Hank Aaron hit 7 13 7 14 7 15 a moment ago I told you the story about him hitting 7 13. Another thing I didn't know was the controversy about would he play? Remember the season before he hits 7 14. He had 40 home runs and he's coming upon 7 14. And the question was, Would he get it this year and what he get it at home or on the road? And so he plays the last game at home. But he goes over. He doesn't hit a home run. And I told you the story about After his lasted bat of that season, finishing with 7 13. He walks back out to left field. Now he's playing. And he gets a standing ovation the likes of which he would never get, and I did remember, the crowds were sparse that year, sometimes 3000 people in Atlanta Braves game You've got a guy who hit 700 home runs that season. And you don't come out. Watch him in big numbers. 14,000. In fact, when he hit 7/100 home run when he had a 700 home run. Bowie Kuhn, the commissioner of baseball, did not want them to stop and have a ceremony to honor him. Did not want them to just pause and say Wow, 700 home runs for Hank Aaron, he said. We shouldn't disrupt the game. The commissioner's office and the Atlanta Braves and Babe Ruth run a different page man. I guess it was still a different era, but they didn't seem to appreciate our value. All that Aaron was doing for so many people. In fact, at one point, I think it was after he hit 701 of the reporters, said. What do you think your contribution to baseball is? Ben and some people were taken aback by that, like They were comparing him to Babe Ruth, and they were comparing him to other players. Babe Ruth famously saved baseball. The author in this book says Not really. But anyway, they were asking Hank Aaron to compare his contribution to the game. To Babe Ruth's contribution to the game. And he paused, did not take a fence or if he did didn't show it and said, Well, I just think I'm bringing a new generation into the game. All of these older people that they're sending me the hateful letters. It's nice that younger people are encouraging me. So he gets up towards the end of that season, and he's had 7 13. And then the next season starts. He's going to go for 7 14. They open on the road they play in Cincinnati and Cincinnati didn't want to have anything to do with the festivities. They said, Yeah, we're not into that race and religion thing here in Cincinnati, So if he hits the 714th or 15th home run, we don't want to stop the game. This is a team that has Johnny bench. This is a team that has Pete Rose. I mean, that was the big red machine. So Open up in Cincinnati, and the commissioner threatens sanctions against the team. If he doesn't play in those first games, where could be cold? It was cold. Where could be rainy, where maybe he would sit the game out? You can do whatever you want with some of your older stars, and maybe it's better to open him at home in Atlanta, where he'll hit 7 14 there The commissioner said, No, he will play and Cincinnati and maybe take away the moment for the Atlanta fans. And the manager says, Well, we're gonna We're going to go ahead and sit him out. And then Commissioner who wasn't even in Cincinnati at the time would not be there for the next game. Where could happen would not think about that would not be there for the game, telephone the manager and said. There will be sanctions and finds against you and your organization if he does not play in the next game. Why the commissioner was so intent on Babe Ruth on Hank Aaron breaking Babe Ruth's record on the road. I don't know, but there was so finally the manager of the Atlanta Braves capitulates. And so he hits the S so he goes into the game. And he Gets I don't remember what happened next. But when he finally comes home to Atlanta, He's got a chance to hit 7 14. What was it on the road and 7 15 in Atlanta? When he breaks the record in Atlanta. There now. May think which ball Awas? No, I think it was 7 14, so he hit 7 14. And they get the ball And then they had the the press corps. You know, the people that work for the Atlanta Braves are related and they go out and celebrate and they're having drinks and sandwiches or whatever they're doing, and they have they have the baseball And when they get back from their night of revelry after he hit 7 14, they go back to their rooms. And the guy who's in charge of the press for the Atlanta Braves cannot find the ball. And he tears his room apart. And he goes. Where is 7 14? I can't find the 714 more baseball. So then he calls some of the other. Executives and another one of the players, and they're going through his room left and right. They say, Well, maybe it's in your room left and right, and they don't know where it is. The rooms had not been previously ransacked. So if they if the ball was stolen, where was it? Who took it? And how did they know to find it? One of them says Hey, Did you by any chance, Give it to the hotel to have them put it in the safe. He goes. That's what I did was in the safe all along. So the ball was preserved. It was safe. And they laughed. And also we're kind of mad at each other for this stupidity. 11 42. I'll stop talking about the book. Now, By the way, it's time for the mega pros Monday Madness Quiz. We do a little trivia questionnaire for you On Mondays. The theme sort of rotates today. It's a sort of current events quiz called while you were listening while you were listening. Have you been listening to WGN Radio in the last week? The answers to all of our questions. Have been put on WGN radio in the last seven days. If you've been a regular listener, you've got a shot at it. We'll ask you. I'm sorry. How many Carjackings have there been? In Chicago this year will ask you I'm just looking at some of the interesting questions that have surfaced that the answers of which will be asked for Um, how many crickets can a cricket farmer raise in five weeks? Thank you very much. Steve Bertrand. It's a multiple choice quiz. So I like your chances. Why don't you call right now? 3129817 203 12. 9817 200 laughter. You're going to give you an assist on this. This is kind of tough. I could help with some crickets already. Whoa! I don't know It's funny because look, none of us can listen. 24 hours a day. In fact, some of us while we're working Don't listen very attentively to this radio station because we're in studios or newsrooms do another things. You may have a better chance that this is Lauren lap because she works here, Except for the new stuff, things that I have reported that I can help with..
KNBR The Sports Leader
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader
"What I did there, guys? Hopefully we way connect with Reggie. And it's ah, long time homemaking hits. Just keep on coming. No, don't Don't! Don't! Don't Don't. Don't praise me. That's terrible. Hopefully, we are able to hook up with Reggie Jackson because time is starting to, uh, drain out here on the Friday edition of the Tolbert Kruger and Brooks Show. Dwight Hyper scheduled to join us here before we get out of here at six of Feet clock. Yeah, I'd be funded. We really would be fun to hear. Hear from him. In fact, today, maybe we could do it. Yeah, I did early next week. Hey, Hank Aaron's a one day story. We could do this next week and talk to a variety of people and I am quite looking forward to that. No, Rod. We could do whatever we want. We do next Friday. We do two weeks from now It's Henry Aaron. That's right. Do whatever they want in our names on the marquee as well, that you know what, Tom? That's right. Yeah way. Want to be? Oh, Ah, I'm really hoping be fun. Do it also be funded? Get a hold of dusty at some point, just talking in the on deck circle for Record breaking home run and playing with them and what he meant to him. That'd be kinda and what hanky actually endured, too. I mean to be able to speak to it firsthand as somebody who was on his team and saw the letters and And experience the same experiences you know, in and around the ballpark or just traveling the country at that point in history. Um, I've loved here Dusty's perspective on what what? What Henry endured. Have you guys read some of the death threat letters that Aaron received. I haven't. I should. I don't know. Seen some of them kind of outlet man. It's just there's one in particular where it was just the usual boilerplate. Horrible, racist stuff. But this guy basically had, like a few. Weeks of the Braves schedule. Like you're gonna be in Montreal from June 2nd through the fifth. You gonna be in Philadelphia from this date to this date to this? They basically just say Santa Hank Aaron. I know where you're going to be. And I am going to Kill you. On one of these days because I am not going to stop. Following you around. North America. And it's Zee. It's one thing for somebody to call you. What's your name? For somebody to call you out your name and say they're going to kill you. And they message detail your schedule and how they're going to follow you around. I mean, that's a level of Depravity that just It's just it's mind blowing and it's got real too because real shot champ shot was shot. These people were all people of that era and people got assassinated. And to be very specific about it black people who were making a difference. We're being killed. It's just, you know, we could go on and on down list, you know we week Fred Hampton. We could buy a PC. Or we could do this thing all day long. Yeah. Um, if you were black person, and you were bringing White and black people together in the sixties and your deputy where you were viewed as a danger. You you, you you had your life was in mortal danger. And he got letters Aaron like that, by the thousands by the thousands, yet that man still went out there and did his job and it wasn't just a threat to his own. Safety. His own life, Erin, They threatened his wife. They threatened his Children. He had a daughter in college. You know, he couldn't. He couldn't. Wrap his arms around her and protect her. You know, she had to have police president If if you get a chance to read Hank Aaron's biography, I had a hammer it will it I don't know how he did it another black mark for baseball. By the way, Rod was the fact that Bully kun wasn't in Cincinnati on opening day one Hank went deep. For this his historic home run. He was not there and he wasn't there because he got involved in a dispute. Where the owner of the Braves said, Hey, you know, we'd like Hank to do this at home. And Bowie Kuhn basically said No. If Hank doesn't play in two of the three games and Cincinnati to start the year, we will take you know, but what we will punish him somehow, some way. They threatened him and it was there was hostile feelings between Bowie Kuhn believe it or not, and and Hank Aaron. At that point, he swore he was not there in Cincinnati and opening day when he broke the record. We know what that was about it. Just look I? None of the Michener None of us Can't even come close to comprehending What? That what That was like. I I can't. I can't even that even Not even close. I mean, athletes they get but her winning Abboud And you're talking about death threats. Q. Just trying to go out there and play game. And have some fun. And it's a job. Sure. What people get Yeah. Age. It really is. I mean, I know, I know. I've read enough books now. On the human condition and I get it. That's it. It's who we are. It's who we're always gonna be in to some extent, that's just the way it is. And I hate it. It just It's brutal that that people Have to deal with that and that there are people out there. It gets so angry. So angry cause I think Well, they're going to take over. The blacks are gonna take over my sport or my country's gonna change or they're gonna take my job or good. Whoa! Oh, my gosh. You just Ages. It's hard to fathom, but then it isn't like I want to say it's unbelievable, but then, totally isn't unbelievable. It's totally believable. But to have to deal with that they have to go out there and just Go out there and play beauty is playing baseball. Oh, you're doing you're playing baseball and people are setting you death threats. Look, I did not to that extent, but we still get it today..
Newsradio 700 WLW
"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"In time? April 4th 1974 you heard from the Vice President Gerald Ford and Bowie Kuhn. Milo Hamilton, the Hall of Fame broadcaster on the call. Reds won that day 7 to 6 in front of 52,154. That was a Thursday afternoon in his murder reference. The Braves ownership said it intended to keep Aaron Out of the lineup for the three game Syriza and Cincinnati so we'd have a chance to break to tie and break the record when they went back home to open up the season in Atlanta, But Kun told the Braves he expected them to play Aaron at least two of the three games in Cincinnati, and he was citing the integrity of the game. Remember the Reds grounds crew retrieved the baseball from a police officer presented it to Hank Aaron. Later in the game, Aaron came to the plate three more Ah, three more times. He was retired twice, and he walked once, so three more at bats in that game with a chance to break the record. He was not in the starting lineup for the second game against the Reds. He did play in the third game after Bowie Kuhn had threatened penalties if the Braves held him out. Dave Concepcion homer that day for the Reds. Tony Perez homered that day, Clay Carroll got the win. A 35 year old Phil Niekro pitched in relief for the Braves that day. Pete started in left Dan Greece and started the third. Riddle me this who was the Reds Opening day center fielder that year 1974 on that day. Merv Rettenmund opened in center field that day, Dusty Baker had a hit and run for the Braves. That day. Davey Johnson had a double by the way, thoughts and prayers to Davey Johnson, the former Reds manager. Reports are tonight He is in a Florida hospital battling Covad Davis 77 years old former manager the Reds 93 to 95. The home plate umpire. That day 1974 was Ed Vargo and I noticed the second base umpire with John McSherry about that. There you go. Let's take some calls. 5137491 7800 the big £1.700 on a TNT in the next segment, I'm gonna give you Vin Scully's call of the record breaking home run. That occurred in Atlanta against the Dodgers, But we had here in Lebanon. Lee Welcome to sports talk. The Atlanta area. I'm well, thanks for calling. Hey, I wanted to share I was actually at that game, 1974. My dad took me to the game. I was eight years old. But I have something I think the little unique we all know that. That was Marty's first game that he called So fast forward 45 years later, and I took my dad to Marty asking. Oh, man, the Harris standing up on my arms. That is awesome. You don't have to think that that would be a little unique, right? Not right. A drains. Yes, her father son to be the his first and also is like I love that. That's a great story A late enjoy a weekend, buddy. Losing a little bit good to hear from you. How about college Hill? And this is Barbara on 700 wlw. Hi, Barbara. Hi. I was at that game and 1974 words. Yes, I wa so I was at that game. I heard that bad the past. And of course, I had a transistor radio with me. So I heard Barty Cloud with the same time and also wasn't mentioned. Uh, I'm laughing because they had a streaker in that bad part. No, Yes, way 24 Year old man. Hey, where we're so much racket, uh, about that, you know that all the time I wondered up one of my sight of friends who was with me. Then tell me right away What was happening, and Because I heard Compass. Sudden commotion. I wasn't expecting to hear. And then Marty talked about it. Barbara, if I can ask, Did the streaker run on the field during the celebration after the home runner was this later in the game? I think player in the game, all right. Wow. I'd never heard that story. But he I believe security escorted him out. That is excellent. That's a great story, Barbara. Thank you. All right. Have a great night love that additional A nation never heard that. Here's what he may have many things that amaze me about Hank Aaron's career 23 seasons. He was an all star for 21 straight years. The only time he wasn't an All star was his first year in his last year. Here's Here's a great trivia note as well. He played 23 years. He made 25 All Star teams because for a period of time they played two All Star games. Hank made 25 All Star games in 23 seasons. Hayward, the number 44 he hit exactly 44 home runs four different times. Here's the other thing that stood. I looked up. He was listed at 6 Ft. £180. And you wouldn't think just saying that that that would be the body type of the the I'll call on the all time home run later, but man, the quick wrist legendary quick wrist. In fact, when I think of that, I think of Hank Aaron. I think of Um George Foster. I think of Eric Davis in terms of quick wrist and guys who were pointed out as the just how quick the reflexes were assault today. Hey, care and hit 3 62 against Sandy Cove fax. 117 and bats. He hit 3 62. He had 3 42 against Steve Carlton. He hit 2 15 against Bob Gibson, but he had eight home runs off of Gibson. That's the most home runs that Gibson allowed to any right handed hitter, according to the note. I saw Another staggering stat. If you take away all of Hank Aaron's home runs, he still had over 3000 hits. Let me repeat that. That's how good he was. Take away all the home runs. Still over 3000 hits. It's like a Gretzky stat. Take away all Gretzky's goals and he still is the all time leader in points in NHL history because of the assist never went on the DL. Scored at least 100 runs in 13 straight seasons. He had two seasons. Now think of this 755 home runs. He had two years where he had at least 200 hits. He led the league both times. He stole 240 bases in his career. His career high was 31. Here is the one that I just have such an appreciation for.
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"Right, rock many issues many times today, Henry Aaron passed away. We have all the experts that have set all the connections he has with Cincinnati, the first major league pitcher he faced. In the major leagues and 19. 54 was Joe Nuxhall. Really? I did not know that you made his major league debut against Joe Nuxhall in April. 1954. He went over five by the way. Your left hander got hit. He got hit number 3000 at Crosley Field. In May of 1970. He hit the home run here in April, the fourth on Marty's first game. I just got a bad connection about her connections. That's right here, everything in Cincinnati, By the way, the Hall of Famer will join us on the Iraqi show 4 30 today about it, and then on the field. They stopped the game. You were too young to recall. They stopped the game when you're born yet. No, that was born 1980. They stuff 1980. They stopped the game. Bowie Kuhn comes on in the field. They commit the commish and there's Pete Rose, Johnny bench. But Tony Perez, Joe Morgan Dusty Baker, who was on the on deck circle when Henry and hit the home run on they did this big ceremony. Henry kept looking like Let's play baseball and they lost the game and extra innings P rose in the 12th inning or 11th inning was on second base, and there was a wild pitch and somehow P Rose scored from second to have a little pitch and I'm listening. And Toledo I came back from court. I was a bailiff in law school, and I'm listening. Driving up, Bancroft. You get home about 4 35 o'clock, and I'm listen to this guy in the first time I heard him. I said, damn, He sounds pretty good. That's not Al Michaels, who is that? I never gave the name and he's all excited at the end of the game. Pete Rose has scored from second base, and this ring belongs to the red. I'm going What the hell's that guy? This is Marty. Brenda. Hang. Good morning. Who is that guy? It's s O. That was it brings back the memories goes Henry and died today at the age of 86 about that, But what couple issues? Yeah, but he got I got many but the inquiry. I'm trying to stay positive. Like, Don't get pissed off. I'm getting pissed off. Good. There is a Twitter war going on betraying Chris Seelbach and dusty roads. The American dream. Dusty Rhodes, who's a traditional Democrat, may I say, takes umbrage of the idea that Joe Biden is now gotten rid of all the rules and regulations about transgender rights or whatever. And now, if you identify as a female or identifies a male Not having gone through the surgery. But if you just identify you can suffer no discrimination on joining sports teams, Leagues bathroom, use whatever it might be. And so now, Dusty Rhodes is expressed a more traditional viewpoint. About young males and young females. There is a difference, and Chris Seelbach has dropped the F bomb on Twitter. Bunch of other things calling, Dusty rose every no answer. He just resorted to cursing, so there's not. I mean, there is that that's that's a real issue, right? If you're a Suburban woman who voted for Joe Biden. How are you going to feel when your daughter loses all out on a college scholarship toe Miami Because it was now given to someone who identifies as male of identifies as a woman. What do you do when your niece doesn't make the high school track team Because a male identifies now is a woman now takes us spot. And what are you doing? Some 21 year old and Xavier, you see the hits the ball out of sight and golf. Unlike many sports and golf, you can make a living. And so what happens if he says you know what I'm driving about Threat and 25 yards. I can't quite make it on the tour but identifies a woman. I want to play LPGA. Now, what do you do? It's not gonna do much for women's rights to say that Would think a liberal would care about women's rights. I don't think I would They. They're very, very tourney on this issue. But this is a very complicated issue and one that's it makes you kind of like day one of the administration that was like number of three on the priority. Three transgender, all the people that told me odd jobs, a moderate, He's just a moderate guy. Old. Joe's gonna be right down the middle. And I said No, he's not. I'm sure you said no, he's not. No, he's not gonna resist against that wing of the party at all, and There's that we were right. I'm looking to your left and all the information. The Biden administration now says about how difficult we are. The economy could fall into a black hole. That could be a depression coming, okay? So you got asthma. Any is 22 50,000 really good middle class jobs and building the keystone pipeline and building all the walls on the southern border. And that is an important part of economic recovery is construction jobs. Shall we say, infrastructure jobs? First thing he does is far the firearm 11,000 blue collar jobs that On something that goes right through his home state of Pennsylvania. Right now, The Keystone Pipeline begins in Alberta, and they also went through the time and large parts of it. You just build the pipeline instead of transporting it by truck, or by rail, which has collisions and rex and cost involved. This is a pipeline once it's built you simply Speck of turning on and what happens, Energy prices were paying $2 instead of four. And that's the thing not only of the jobs lost, but the oil is still going to get transferred from point A to point B. It's just like you said, expensive. So why are we doing this? The result is still the same. If you hate fossil fuels, the fossil fuels aren't going where it's just gonna Cut a bunch of jobs in a more if we want to be more dependent on Saudi Arabia, right? That's what we need. Did you think the average person other knows that under Trump? We became energy independent. Do you think they know the polling says about 15 Day? 18% know that most don't know it. Goes, It's not. It's not publicize is an accomplishment because it was an accomplishment. And if it's an accomplishment under Trump, we don't talk about it. Speak about Quincy. This is the one that has me. Probably the most upset. You might have seen this. So the World Health Organization yesterday comes out and says, Oh, wait a minute. These PCR tests Right that we've been given people that have resulted in all these staggeringly high numbers that have because of that we've shut down the country from sea to shining sea right people out of jobs. Small business people out of jobs. Restaurants have gone under. Father. Those PCR tests. They aren't that accurate. They're actually show. You know, they can't tell the difference. I guess between one of Iris is dead and inactive in someone, someone who may have had the virus three months ago, it's still in their system That's coming up is a positive test versus Someone who actually has its activities. Still, Beacon could be communicable. It's called inert. Strange if you have entered strains, which will not cause difficulty, nor can you communicate the virus is not enough load. That test positive when it's not another words, you everyone has viruses. But if it's in a jury is when you want to know about it. But the PCR test was the gold standard of determining whether not someone was positive. There's 25 million cases, supposedly in America of positive test, which is a slice of the 100 million that supposedly have it, But now the test to determine that Not accurate, but how many people are have lost jobs lost livelihood. That's standard. I test that now, all of a sudden, shockingly the day after the election is now deemed not credible. Is that a coincidence? No people should be pissed off about this. How many people have lost jobs in the country has been in ruin. Based on this test that was supposed to be the gold standard, and actually, it's the worst standard. Well, we also have the situation where the National Guard Which was 26,000%. When one a fraction of that maybe was required. Once you put up the fence and fences or they are bad, right? You can't build a wall. I get metal, but you put up the fence the barrier in the barbed wire. Not too many. You're going to scale the fence it don't you don't need 26,000. But it was kind of like a nephew to trump supporters. Look at what you've done to us. You've done because of you knuckle dragging idiots. Look what you've done to us. Send 26 6000, And now she's gone. Sleeping in the parking lot. Someone thought at the time and I'm gonna have bread Bread win Strip on Sunday night to talk about He's in the national No, he's in the reserves said somebody say Okay, we got 26,000 young men and.
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"bowie kuhn" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Which days you thought about that impossible view for for Fran, Chester Martin Brennaman and his first game behind the Mike to call Henry Aaron 714th career home run. Let me give you a call or tie of sorts. With between Henry Aaron and the Reds, Dusty Baker. You may remember, I do this. This feature called 10 teammates and a hat where I left. My name's great stuff. It's a great segment, and so I could one with Dusty Baker and, you know she played forever and mounted. So there were a million names in this hat. He pulls out 10 names, and one of them is Henry up proceeds to tell the story of how he was an 18 year old kid and the Raves wanted to sign him. Um, his mom didn't want to decide Is Mom wanted Dusty Baker to go to college. So the Braves had Henry Aaron make the pitch to Dusty Baker's mom. For wise. He's inside a professional baseball contract. And not go to college, and Henry Aaron said that Dusty's mom, Listen, Listen, This is Baker. I will take care of him like he's my own son. I will make sure he goes to church. Make sure he goes to bed early. I'll get him up and make sure he hasn't breakfast. And that's what Henry Aaron did for 18 year old Dusty Baker when he started out his professional baseball career was on the field. With Henry, and when he hit that home run from the Braves, Dusty Baker, Dusty Baker was on deck. Dusty Baker was the on deck hitter when Henry Aaron hit number 7 15 and who was the young part second base that first designated it was a home run. That I don't know. You got me on that one. Let me give you a hint. He later died of Riverfront Stadium and home plate, Boy, I certainly remember that incident, but now I'm drawing a blank on the name of the Cherry Empire. Harry. That's right. He was the one to second base called it. And then what was 74? I think it was 1996. I'm like that. About 22. Years later, he died at home plate, and I'm thinking And then they had the big ceremony on you might be too young to recall if you're a young man, but in 1974, they stopped the game outcome. Bowie Kuhn, who kind of order that he playing the game. There was Pete Rose, Johnny Bench Henry Aaron, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan, Dusty Baker all there, and they did some sort of ceremony on the field. And Henry said, you know, kept saying, Look, let's play baseball her and then enough for this and the guy who was over this 3 74 Mark and left Center field. Sitting in the third row with a glove in his hand at the age of 12 was Brian Combs. How about that? Brian comes got the tickets the day before from Bob Braun, who was doing a TV show broadcast it. Also here he went on is a 12 year old boy dressed his Mr Red with a big job he's gonna bring in the photo and Bob Brown said here, young man. Here's two tickets to Mars game. It was in the Philly Market Parade, and Brian comes watch the ball fall more less at his feet. Picked up by an UMP picked up by a cop in his first year name. Police officer Clarence Williams of CPM because he was a rookie cop. He was the guy in between the wall and the frame of Riverfront Stadium is like 6 ft. Separation and and he was like he was like in an alley and he heard a ball was hit. He heard the yelling. Had no idea what was going on. He couldn't see He was like in the vice and and the ball came over the first wall, hit the second wall, then bounce back to hit the wall that 3 74 Mark and the ball landed at his feet and he picked it up. S. O'Brien comes looking down at Officer Clarence Williams with the baseball She probably gave back to Henry own car. I see did yeah, a certain famous Plum house man. Send someone out the left center field to see if they could find the ball and the cop in uniform is holding the ball. And said, Would you give that back to you so sure. I'm on duty out. You can have it and the ball is now on now in Cooperstown. Did. Officer Williams get anything exchange? Did they give him a base? Yes, they did. Thank you. Henry. Aaron signed some things and gave it to the police officer. And the rest, shall we say is history. Nice. You know, I have a brother named Mark is actually my stepbrother. So we had different parents given Grandparent's his grandfather gave him an autographed baseball signed by Henry Aaron. Which he had displayed. We shared a bedroom, his kids, so he had it displayed in our bedroom. And then one day we were out playing catcher playing baseball in the neighborhood and we lost the ball. No. My brother ran upstairs into our bedroom. He grabbed the autographed Henry Aaron baseball, and that's what we played with and you know, naturally ruined it. Well, what it would have been a very valuable piece of memorabilia. We stupidly you know, played catch and baseball with in the backyard, destroying it. You may recall 2 to 3 years ago, baseball designated the four living greatest baseball players of all time and an All Star game. They were Henry Aaron, Willie Mays, Johnny Bench and Sandy Koufax Co fax at a baseball scholarship to you See Johnny Bench played here is 17 year career. And Henry Aaron had all these marks and milestones in Cincinnati. The only one that wouldn't connected us was really amazed. So the four greatest that ever lived. Three of the four have great connections to Cincinnati, and one might say, Pete Rose would have been on that list somewhere. But of course, he's been more less banished from baseball and that Zorro NPI roast, so no matter what happens down hard There's a Cincinnati connection, everything. Everything in the world ultimately gets tied to the Queen City. I know last night. You ready for the big question? I am. The Mount Rushmore of you See Bear cat basketball. All men off. Say all men. Yeah, we're gonna have four Mount Rushmore. You see men's basketball Go. The Mount Rushmore. The top four Tripoli players. No coach is correct. Okay, well, the big O is obvious. Kenyon Martin..
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"What's going through the Hall of Famers head Willie. That was day one of his 46 year run. As the voice of the ransom. He's going. I got Hank Aaron 714th home run on Day one. What's what? What's ahead. That was the first half of the first inning. I think two guys got on base in front of him, and it hit a three run homer ball head is spinning like a dial telephone. Thank you. Martina. Martina. I talked to him yesterday about it and write about how he was hard, all that stuff because he works cheaper than all the rest. I'm not sure that's back Then he did. But, yes, things have changed slightly, and I looked at some stats on Henry Aaron. So he finished with 755 home runs? Yes. How about 2297 r b? I all the time. All time. 37 Go ahead. Go ahead. You go ahead, 3700 and 71 hits Really? He went 25 All Star games. He was an All star in every season from 1955 to 1975. Not bad. That's from President Eisenhower. Gerald Ford. Not bad folks. He can pick him up and lay him down. How about that? 1955 with President Eisenhower? The 1975 Hank Aaron was an All star to Gerald Ford. Also had 6856 total bases 1477 extra base hits and he's beaten, of course, Bye bye bonds for the all time it's 7 62, but I don't consider that to legitimate and I don't think he struck out more than 100 times in his career. I mean, in the season the season right in a season. Unbelievable. I think they're hitting is the greatest hitter of all time. I would say statistically, yes, yes. American hero Willie and icon home run King. And most notably the greatest Braves player ever. No question. Of course. He went to the Brewers and Theo and his career there think a couple of years he spent up there. I think he started out with the Indianapolis clowns. He was a clown. And within the Indianapolis clowns way back when worn and mobile, Alabama and 1934 34 made his major league debut and started a 23 year career with then the Milwaukee Braves at age 20. 1954 55. He started correct, then went to Hotlanta. How about on the field? Brian comes related. Some of the players they stopped. The game went onto the field. Bowie Kuhn required that he play at least two of the three games. That's correct. There's Johnny Bench. Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose. I'm Davey Johnson. Davey Johnson was his teammate, also the late Phil Niekro. Was a teammate of Hank Aaron. How about a man named Baker Dust and Dusty Baker? Cincinnati's connected everything in the world. At one point, it's amazing. Cincinnati is.
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"On Monday through Friday, here on the Dan Patrick Show, If you're just joining us, Hank Aaron has passed away at the age of 86 Chuck in Virginia joins us We will bring back an interview that I did April 8th of 2020 with Hank. The last time we had him on the program. Hey, Chuck. Hey, Dan, How are you? Oh, doing great little sad man. First time long time. Thanks. 56 hard 1 45. I became a brave fan. Hey, first grade was at the game side. 700 home run, played T ball with Phil Niekro son, Philip. And great story for you about Fulton County taking my kid back there years ago. I know you've seen since when they flattened Fulton County Stadium, and they still had the section of the fence. Were Hank. It is 7 15. It was still it's still erected, you know, out in the parking lot, so I've got my son there. He's got eight years old. We're sending up next to the fence. But the big sign, says 7, 15 and his mom's taking the picture and my son looks up and says, What is this? I said son. This is where Hank Aaron hit it. 715th home run and he looked at Turner Field in the distance about 400 yards away all the way out here Now, that's a good story. Thank you, Chuck. That's a good story. Uh, You know you you Start thinking about this when he won the first time you see somebody or the first time they have an impact on you. And we've all had this happen to us when you know, depending on how old you are. You'll see somebody or you get to go to a game. You get an autograph. You get a baseball card. Ah, poster. Thank all of those things kind of factor in on You know who these people are, and I had not met Hank Aaron until he was done playing baseball, I think, but For some reason, and I don't know why it might have been because the Braves were always on I remember that they had. You know Davey Johnson, the former manager, Darrell Evans. I think they had three guys who hit 40 home runs arm or one year. Ralph Guard let off for them. You know, they were just I don't know why I became so familiar with the Braves. Maybe because of the times that they played against the Cincinnati Reds. But let me take you back to April 8th of 2020. This would have been the 46th anniversary off Hang 715th home run that made him the old time home Run King. And I started out the interview by asking, Hank, How are you? I'm fine, Dan. How are you? I'm doing okay. I actually went back and listened to Vin Scully's call of the home run. When's the last time you sat down and watch that? Oh, my goodness has been time. It's been a while. It has been a long time, Dan. I haven't. I haven't watched it that much. What do you remember about that night like, is there something that never came out or something Just special for you something before the game after the game that happened. You know the thing that I remember most about that night was my mother. She She was She was she was so into used. She was so happy. And and when I hit the home run and get around the bases Home free. She grabbed me and said, I had never been heard before in my life like them. I did notice that that she was holding on for dear life to you. She just didn't want to let you go. No, she didn't see she was quite happy and I was And I was material. What did you keep from that night? Uh, I think I remember. That night. I remember most Was the fact that what did you keep your uniform? Did you keep the bad? Did you like what? What memorabilia did you keep from that night? I don't think I kept anything. It was that concerned. I don't think I don't think I kept anything. I think I went home. Dan, I think I went home. My wife and I both And we breathed. And I, God forgive this and thanked him for everything that he had done for me, and that's a good thing. I remember most Did you thank him for that pitch that al through to you? That was up in the strike. So you know a lot of people talk about that pitch. But that was, you know, you know, he was quite a picture. He won 20 games before. Yeah, you know he's divisions in Yonkers. And he was quite a picture and I had never had good luck against him. And for some reason, it was the night that Come calling and I hit the home run off of it. And you homered in Cincinnati off Jack, billing him and then Think did Bowie Kuhn, the commissioner, want you to wait to go to Atlanta? Or you wanted to wait to go to Atlanta to try to set the record there? He made you play that maybe the next day and Cincinnati. Does that sound right? Yes. He wanted me. He wanted me to play the next day. Yes. You wanted me and still in student and stood by it. I open the season of the hit home run. And then I wanted to wait. And do the rest of it in mill in Atlanta here And he said no, he said. You. By your records that you played every other day and said you should play today. How different would your career been if you played in a bigger market? I think it would have been a lot lot different, But then I don't know. You know, I kind of Where were you? A small market like you were in Milwaukee in Atlanta, If if I swapped you and Willie Mays or you and Mickey Mantle But your personality would you done OK in New York as supposed to Atlanta in Milwaukee? Thing kind of got a loan. It was Be of very well. But I don't know that I would have Would have been the same type of ball players that I was Uh, that I was in the water. Milwaukee was was made for me. I love Milwaukee. I was a country boy. Bill Walker with the country's silly And I just love being in Milwaukee. What other sports did you play growing up? I played. I played a little basketball, not I'm sorry. I'm sorry, not basketball. Take it.
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Curt Flood set off the free-agent revolution 50 years ago
"Today's the anniversary of baseball's free agent revolution it was fifty years ago the current flood said I don't want to play for the Phillies here's ABC's Thailand it started with a letter to baseball commissioner Bowie Kuhn from center fielder Curt flood in nineteen sixty nine flood was traded from St Louis to Philadelphia flood road after twelve years in the major leagues I do not feel that I am a piece of property to be bought and sold irrespective of my wishes I believe I have the right to consider offers from other clubs before making any decisions in nineteen seventy twos flood versus Q. in the Supreme Court ruled in baseball's favor but in nineteen seventy six the players union celebrated as free agency was born flood died of throat cancer in nineteen ninety seven his widow actors Judy pace said he stepped out of the foxhole for future ball players tied into