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A highlight from Preseason Begins & The Annual GM Survey
"This is the crossover NBA podcast Chris Mannix joined as I always am by Chris Herring and Rohan Nadkarni. Quick housekeeping note fellas the NBA preview issue is out I guess the basketball preview issue because there is a lot of college stuff in there as well but the cover is NBA Jimmy Butler guest editor for this NBA preview issue Rohan you spent some time with Jimmy Butler in parts unknown I assume South Florida did a a story with him it's excellent check that out I've got a piece on the Phoenix Suns spent some time talking to Matt Ishbia James Jones Frank Vogel key pieces of that organization trying to recreate exactly what happened after the season ended how they got this point where they have one of the most expensive teams in NBA history a lot of good stuff there scouting reports different elements as well make sure you pick up the magazine on stands right now. So fellas we've got the NBA GM survey that's out and I want to dive into some of the elements of that but before we start recording this podcast I was just going through social media looking up some clips and all that stuff and I came across one from the Pat Bev pod the Patrick Beverly pod he does with Barstool Sports I just want to play this clip for you because Pat Bev was joined by Michael Rubin the former owner of the Philadelphia 76ers now this still the CEO with fanatics someone who has a strong relationship with a lot of players including James Harden who they discussed in this clip here as a past NBA owner obviously you're close to the Sixers the situation that's going on with James Harden how would you handle it it wouldn't have happened you know first of all James is family to me and like I'm not going to hide about that I love James this thing is breaking my heart this thing was just not handled well he was playing with us in practice and boy he was cooking he was oh I'm talking about the pot was out and he was stirring that bitch up there's nobody who wants to win a championship more than James Harden I know this guy like my brother people give James a hard time because you know he likes to have fun it's bullshit like the guy the guy's work ethic for basketball is insane and his attitude has been great he's been leading he's been giving advice so you might hear all the bad shit you know TV from reporters that's not there but actually being a teammate that's there he's he's been phenomenal I block out the noises really same because I think a lot of people just don't know like the real James Harden how badly he wants to win I think he's in great not good shape he's in great shape yeah he's in great shape right that's right body looks great yeah every time I'm in the weight room he's in the weight room he's gonna ball out this year so herring I know my blood shouldn't boil when I hear stuff like this and I know it you know the podcast is doing its job if it gets me kind of drawn in and talking about it but to hear Michael Rubin say that James Harden wants to win a championship more than anyone at the same time that James Harden is trying to force his way off a championship contender that is a Rubik's Cube of nonsense that I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around your thoughts on the propaganda emerging from the Pat Bev pod about James Harden I'm just trying to think of a stranger mashup than the one you just explained I mean the the whole universe of Michael Rubin and all the there's so many things lately that just on social media that I've wanted to mute and I don't think I know enough about how to do it I haven't taken the time to do it but if I had a way of muting like Michael that Rubin parties James Harden and any other number of athletes are at or like all these white parties and everything else it's like I would do that but that makes this element of this story this this framing odd because it's like okay well he presumably is friendly with James Harden or James Harden is friendly with him but also the fundamental standpoint now at this point that maybe there are people in the organization that instead of kind of just gloves off which it seemed like it would be based on what James Harden said about Daryl Morey earlier this summer that there's also the very real possibility that maybe he's not traded and so they need him to feel wanted and they need him to feel like they want him to perform well which is what you would want if you're a team that at least there's a you said in one of the last pockets we did it's not out of the realm of possibility that they could be a winner a contender a champion if everything fell right you know the right way so I think that's all this is is just positive reinforcement but I mean it's also silly from the standpoint that you're saying that clearly people that are making trade demands whether it's behind the scenes whether it's publicly whether it's saying my general manager my president is a liar it's hard to hold those two thoughts in the same time in your head that you know on the one hand he can say those things but also nobody wants it more than he does come on like I did I know it's just you know the first thing probably that popped into Ruben's mind but it's just silly Rowan I know you're you're a regular at these white parties but do you have a issue let me just first of all echo my esteemed colleague Chris herrings fatigue with Michael Rubin just this guy's everywhere all the time fanatics sucks I'll say it fanatics is not good wow let's start there I mean like kudos to Michael Rubin you know what he did getting involved with meat mill etc but like we could have left it at that listen I if I were James Harden I might be living my life a similar way I let me put it that way but there is now a what is it a preponderance of evidence that winning a championship is not necessarily number one on this guy's priority list just not only in terms of how he's carried himself this offseason but how he likes to carry himself during the season when he's staying in Miami or Vegas for an extra night I'm away from steam mates are flying separately etc that all that stuff's been reported I'm just I'm sick of the the Sixers offseason I'm sick of the Embiid hard in partnership I respect you Mannix for still holding out hope having faith you've always been kind of an optimist a wanderer a dream I died that's why I don't describe you but I'm just so over this it just well like you said I mean respect to that podcast we're here talking about it I love Pat Bev he's a good personality but like what are we doing here Michael Rubin who are you who are you fooling okay we are familiar with James Harden's game okay you're not fooling us game off the court specifically right like you you can't say James Harden is misunderstood or gets a bad rap when right he he forced his way out of Houston by throwing a multi -week temper tantrum he effectively quit on the Nets which forced them to make a when deal they probably didn't want to and now here he is trying to get out of Philadelphia after holding you know one of the worst holdouts in holdout history to stay away from the team it just the the I mean just trying to get us to believe that is just wild so you know we had to talk about it you know James Harden still officially member of the 76ers we'll see what happens as these preseason games go on and what they do with them but right now James Harden kind of between a rock and a hard place might have to play for Philadelphia this season so I want to talk in this episode about the GM survey which always provides good preseason material whenever it comes out and there were some interesting elements in this year's GM survey guys and I want to start with the championship prediction from the NBA GMs which turned into a two -way tie between the Boston Celtics and the Denver Nuggets Milwaukee coming into third place 23 % Phoenix 7 % they came in fourth in the LA Clippers finishing at 3 % last year the Bucks were the leader at 43 % Denver doesn't surprise me Denver has the core of that team back we've talked about this before I think they can expect some organic growth from Christian Brown I think Peyton Watson might be able to play they've some other guys on that roster that can take steps up by the way while we're speaking of the Nuggets condolences to Mike Malone's family for the passing of Brendan Malone his father that was revealed by the organization this week but when it comes to Denver on the floor I can see why they'd be a championship contender the Celtics I might be one of the few pessimists I don't know if I'm pessimistic about the South I have more questions about the Celtics than many people do my good friend Scalabrini was on TV recently and he said every GM would want this roster and I tend to agree with that sort of because if you could bubble wrap this roster and guarantee that it plays 65 to 70 games together and will be healthy going into the playoffs I think you're absolutely right I think the backcourt is really strong especially defensively Drew Holliday elite defender Derek White big time defender we know what Jalen Brown Jason Tatum can do you know that that that speaks for itself the front court is good right Chris has Porzingis good player Al Horford good player but Porzingis chronically injured right like he played what 60 -65 games last year but that was a contract year and I have less confidence he's going to be able to repeat that he was already injured this off season with whatever happened with his foot over in the World Cup Al Horford's 37 by design he's probably only going to play like 50 games this year because they want to keep him healthy for the playoffs so we don't know what's what Al Horford is going to look like at the end of this season after that what is there they signed Wennion Gabriel Wennion Gabriel last year played 68 games for the Lakers in the playoffs he played 10 he averaged 3 .7 minutes per game in the playoffs with the Lakers last year that is the definition of playable in the regular season and unplayable in the playoffs like it just is what it is Luke Cornette is still there he was unplayable for Boston in the playoffs last year you know this is a team that was already thin when Grant Williams was there now Grant Williams is gone and I don't know what they do if one of these two guys goes down for any length of time so that's a long way of saying like yeah I can buy the argument that the Celtics are the team to beat Eastern Conference I can buy the argument that they are a championship contender but Rohan I just I have a lot of concerns about what happens if anything goes south in that front court I agree I mean that's why I thought the holiday trade was so fascinating and why I wasn't sure how seriously to take Boston as a contender for holiday even though his name was obviously their name was obviously coming up that entire weekend before he was traded a huge reason why they've been been special the last few years is kind of the alchemy of their front court mix -in matching Horford, Rob Williams, and Grant Williams that's gone entirely I see people saying now Porzingis and Horford might start together this talks about does Derek White come off the bench there's a right that's another thing I don't understand I mean you don't you don't have a backup really for either guy right now why aren't they backing up each other that already is starting to not make a ton of sense for me the way I look at it Mannix is I do think we're starting to see some trickle -down effect of the second apron because you look at the top teams right now whether it's Milwaukee, Boston, Phoenix, Denver to an extent it's not that the championship teams of yesteryear were flawless but we're looking at teams that are especially top heavy these days and Boston doesn't have a lot of avenues to improve the roster same for Milwaukee I mean I think Milwaukee has a great five and uh Holliday, Conaton, Middleton, Giannis, and Lopez but then they have Bobby Portis and they have a bunch of question marks after that they don't have a lot of playoff rotation guys uh Phoenix is in a similar boat Denver I think you and I are probably high on Denver's bench than most people we like what we think Peyton Watkins can do Peyton Watson can do Zeke Najee Swarther had a nice pre -season debut but those are a bunch of question marks for them right now so on one hand I echo your skepticism about Boston only in terms of Horford's coming off the worst postseason of his career um I think on both ends of the floor and he's only getting older Porzingis he's played 10 playoff games in his life but when you match them up against kind of the other contenders unless you think like a team like the Lakers or Warriors who have a little bit more depth maybe not quite as much top and talent uh can make a push I understand why you'd put Boston there only because I think a lot of the contenders are really top heavy right now well I mean but the the front court like to get out of the Eastern Conference you gotta get through Milwaukee and Milwaukee's front court is still really strong they still have all the pieces that were in place they still got Giannis still got Brook Lopez still got Bobby Portis they've still got all the guys that have the potential to give Boston a lot of problems and I go back a couple of years and the Celtics back when they had Rob Williams and they had Grant Williams they were in the mix for Yaka Purdle when San Antonio was trying to deal him they wanted to get Purdle they didn't want to get two first -round draft picks back then but they knew back then when they had you know three you know strong front court guys that they needed one more to get through Milwaukee that was when they made the deal for Mike Mascala and he turned out to be unplayable in the playoffs as well so I have concerns about Boston's front court anything about the predictions hearing concern you or you know stand out to you whether it's the Celtics or somebody else I mean I can admit to the same thing you guys are saying that I was surprised that Boston was tied for first for just you know the team that GM's thought was the most likely to win the whole thing it's really hard for me to look at this roster without wincing just a little bit we all can acknowledge that there's a lot of top and talent in this team there was before the moves they made this summer there is now the Porzingis fit is interesting I think everybody can look at that and say wow that if this works out they can win a title obviously no one's denying that it's just to have him and Horford as your two centers and then Wendy and Gabriel who I really like but I don't think of as necessarily my second or third string center or you know if he's even a center he's like six nine or whatever he is so that's all it's just you know and look I've been critical of the Celtics from the standpoint of you're trading away a lot to get Porzingis if only you're talking about Marcus Smart from the standpoint of you know a backbone a heart and soul obviously a very versatile important defender within that cog that they have defensively so they go get Drew Holliday and I think it does kind of answer a lot of those questions a lot of those criticisms but I just I still wonder a little bit of if now you're doing that and in doing that you give away Robert Williams if it makes you thinner at the spot that I was most concerned about now you know it's center even when they had those three it was kind of a weird hodgepodge of guys that you're not for any reason you're not gonna feel comfortable about whether they can hold up and be healthy the whole year also stylistically if you're missing one of guys it changes the way your offense looks because two of them are guys that can shoot from three one is a guy that's kind of more around the rim and setting screens and stuff like that so anyway I was just a little bit surprised that as we're all acknowledging the potential thinness of this group that they would be a co -favorite here I think the Nuggets still deserve to be the favorite and I personally would probably take the Bucks over the Celtics as a favorite but but all that said you know I don't think there's a runaway team here after the Nuggets I would probably leave them at number one because there was a lot of other stuff that happened between the depth of the Lakers the top end stuff of the Celtics the top end stuff of the Bucks to me when I see that much stuff happening I'm just going to defer to the team that won last year that granted they did lose some things but they have the potential to get better with more continuity of the top end guys that they have that haven't been healthy up until last year so I would you know I was a little bit surprised to see that Boston pulled into a tie with Denver among the GMs well we as we know the Boston media mafia is working over time in these kinds of situations I'm kidding I know it was the GM survey one thing I want to throw out there is in a in kind of a funny twist like the Celtics have had the best Joel Embiid defender over the years in Al Horford and Horford was giving Embiid problems in the semis last year to the point where Tucker had to get in his face and be like bro you need to take this matchup but what does Boston do now in that matchup because if you're playing Horford against Embiid does that mean you're playing Porzingis and Horford together and which of your guards are you keeping off the floor does that mean you keep Derek White off the floor it's kind of an interesting problem they've created for themselves unless they're willing to live with Porzingis on Embiid but that kind of takes away one of the biggest strengths they've had in that matchup over the years yeah is it going to be a challenge for them because Horford has been excellent I mean Embiid he gives him so many problems he clearly has the timing down on Embiid like he does he knows yeah it's fat it's fantastic to watch he pushes him off his spots he's he's just got a lot of you know and maybe some of it's mental too like Embiid's seen him so many times over the years that it's like all right well Al Horford again and you know he's asked about every single postseason he's had great games against Horford don't get me wrong he's played really well at times but it is I have a little surprise guys that the team nobody's really in on the Suns yet seven percent seem a little low for me you know man look I understand maybe Herring you got to give this team time to figure itself out and see if these guys can play together and see if this mix of players can work but you know if that team gets the playoffs fully healthy hard to stop very hard to stop in the postseason no no question I mean you know I watched clips I watched bits of the the game that they played against the Pistons and granted it's the Pistons you know one of the youngest teams in the league but to watch the Suns who you know have just started playing together that you know have 80 points between the first and the third quarter of a road game road opener for preseason there's obviously a lot of potential there offensively I would say that as we talk the things we like and dislike about teams the thinness the depth of these rosters I'm a little bit surprised that the Suns haven't done a little bit more to go out and get a a bonafide point guard I think it's a big granted you have a lot of ball handling on that roster it's not to say you don't and top level guys that can do it but it's a big change to go from having Chris Paul be your point guard and even to have campaign be your backup point guard to then going and just saying we're you know we're going to kind of take the Clippers route to have our forwards handle the ball to have Devin Booker handle the ball again all guys that can do it but these are also guys that you like to just kind of throw in iso situations you don't want to wear them down the whole season of having them handle the ball so I they've added depth and I think they need that they obviously needed it last offseason or I'm sorry last postseason and so they've done well to add to that but I think that they still it would do them well to have even if it's you know I look at something like what the Bulls did they went and got Javon Carter someone that played for the Suns at one point the sort of guy that could really be helpful to this team I also wonder just a little bit just a little and I think I saw some of this in their first preseason game as well Yusuf Nurkic is an interesting fit I think he can do good things for them he's good you know as a playmaker here and there defensively I worry just a little bit about him of how big it seemed like he took in Portland and you know for all the problems Ayton has at times I wonder if he's more nimble defensively and would work better defensively with that team but we'll see we'll see what happens I think that the Suns absolutely could win it they absolutely have the talent and skill to do it I think they have you know a coach that I really like one of my favorites in league and Vogel but I definitely have some questions about them which is why again would still take Denver head and shoulders above everybody else for now I actually am a little bit surprised the Lakers didn't get more picks here as well in this in the survey I maybe would have liked the Suns more before the Nurkic trade I'm just I'm replaying that Denver series in my head and while Landry Shammet was getting a ton of open threes and theoretically that could be Bradley now I mean I look at them as even worse or you know more poorly equipped to slow down the Nuggets than they were last year and while we're on the subject of health I mean Durant you know he missed some time obviously he came back right before the start of the playoffs and looked great at times and I think bookers only continue to improve but I mean there's a health there's a health question mark hanging over them you know as long as Durant is there and I I need to see it I mean there's definitely some exciting moments just watching kind of Beale Booker and Durant take their turns in that preseason game and it's like oh man like they have three guys who can go just iso and get a score seemingly anytime they want but and I'm I'm warming to the Nurkic move more than when it first happened but I really need to see that defense in action for a little while before I can take them seriously as a title contender yeah I think you guys just articulated why they only got seven percent of the vote there's a lot of question marks out there about them until we see them actually come together and play all right we had Nicole Jokic picked up first place in two different categories and I want to talk about both of them first was the player most likely to win the 2023 -24 MVP he got 43 percent of the vote in that category Yanis at number two at 20 percent and then if you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player who would it be he got 33 percent of the vote in in that category Victor Webayama coming in second with 23 percent on the subject of MVP guys let's start there 43 percent of the vote I'm actually shocked it wasn't higher like I thought it would be like 70 percent because not look first he's 28 years old he's in his prime he's durable he's just won a championship he was you know the best player on the best team in the NBA there's no reason to believe he's not going to come in next year and put up comparable or this year put up comparable numbers and I do think that the people that were divided on Nicole Jokic last year are not going to be divided this year the people that were skeptics about his ability to win and use that against him when it came to MVP voting and use that as a reason to vote for Joel Embiid those people aren't going to exist or that feeling isn't going to exist if Nicole Jokic puts up MVP numbers on the guy on the team that is at or near the top of the western conference there is no doubt in my mind he is going to win MVP he is going to get deservedly I think every benefit of the doubt this year when it comes to MVP votes so whether it's you know Embiid, Giannis, Jason Tatum, Luka Doncic I think Jokic is going to get the benefit of the doubt there Herring I think he's going to be by far and away he is by far and away the front runner to win the MVP.
A highlight from Conor Picks A New Favorite Team
"I don't know if I like that. I I like as a coach like an outlier in appearance like a Like someone who's either very old Not in great shape Like looks battle -hardened. There's something to that for me because Well Vic Fangio is Mike McDaniel's defensive coordinator Now Vic Fangio is still the head coach of the Broncos we'd have and Vic and I are from Scranton That would have been a very well Vic is from Dunmore I'm from Scranton. Let me because he'll correct you when you say that but That would have been an obvious one, but you get rid of Vic Fangio you get rid of me as a franchise So but Vikings are good But again, it's like I like So what I like about them So the wholesome part like Kirk Cousins has got that covered but on top of that, right like I do think like the way they treated their plate like one thing that was very noticeable to me was the way they handled all their outgoing players this year and If you go back and you look like Dalvin cook Patrick Peterson Eric Kendricks All these got Adam feel and all these got Dalvin cook all these guys they offloaded None of them have anything bad to say about the Vikings because of the way they handle those guys on the way out And then what you have remaining? Is maybe the most exciting young player in the game and Justin Jefferson, right? Proximity, New Jersey, that's an easy flight. It's a Delta hub So you have like you can get there really really easily and probably like an hour and a half two hours I feel like the young core there is good. They're very Forward thinking with quasi Adolfo Mensa is their GM who's kind of like a good merger between analytics and scouting. I Think there's a lot there I mean I just think that and I don't think that they're at the level of like the Bears or the Giants where it's like Alright, like that's a hit. That's a team that like has Like it's hard to just join that established fan base You know what? I mean? Like I feel like they're like maybe a notch below that and they're Minnesota nice. They would let me in My problem is I feel like as my kids get older. I need the head coach to be Older than me because like I think Kevin O 'Connell and I are pretty close to the same age We're in the same NFL locker room together when I was a young beat reporter and he was I covered him to Quarterback. Yeah, it's so I think like I would imagine like maybe one day my kids being like Oh the head coach of the Vikings is 40. Why aren't you doing anything? Cool dad? You're you're 40 so that's just something that's kind of the back of my radar, but I do I I Do support moving the Vikings up? to to a hot team Potentially and I do like I like that They're a little earlier in the cycle because it would be a little strange to I think the Jaguars are a very appealing pick It would be strange to become a Jaguars fan and then for the rest of your life people say Oh, how'd you become a Jaguars fan? And you say well, it was Trevor Lawrence's third season They had already proven they could win a playoff game and I said now's a good time for me to hop on the Jacksonville bandwagon Jacksonville just feels like I don't know. It's like too obvious too obvious That's how I feel about Detroit too, which is in this category. We haven't even talked about. Yeah. Yeah No, I'm with you Detroit's too obvious and part of this is gonna be You know, I want a fan base that handles success. Well, I think on this list a lot of teams that got punished Are teams whose fans when they achieve sudden success? Just collectively become like the largest group of douchebags on the planet and is that how you feel about Eagles fans? People would describe Patriots What I like about Eagles fans, I will say this you're getting dangerously close to early Bill Simmons era Boston and A Boston Red Sox Boston Celtics where you're making it a lot about you and I think you are over rating The struggle that's what I would say and it's there's a very theatrical Element to all that we had to go through in the empty stadiums at the link and oh The fellowship what we called it up here was right before they like the championships started here They called it the fellowship of the miserable up here But it's theater, right? It's acting some of it is Yeah, I mean like the whole like going to your you know Great -grandfather's grave site the day after the Red Sox won the World Series. There was definitely some of that Okay, I can see that to one up that I will say the morning of the Super Bowl this past year I saw videos from Philly where people were at their grandparents grave sites tailgating And they had run like they were tailgating with their dead relatives I remember walking into the stadium in Arizona being sent these videos Wait a minute Can you imagine like driving by a cemetery and seeing like an RV parked in the middle of it and just like a half dozen people hanging out But that's also part of why I'm weary about Philly like there's always there's already this established fan Subculture and then to be able to fit in I would have to be so extra beyond what I am now And so I think that there's a little bit of pressure there to be there's a high barrier to entry to be a fanatical Eagles fan I think yeah, I also think Philly is a very strong 4 -4 kind of city and I know there are others on the list I'm not saying that's exclusive to Philly But I think it it is Particular there where it's like the diehard Eagles fans are tend to be also diehard Sixers Phillies fans It's not an easy city to sort of pick and choose one team a la carte and have other interests It feels like everyone's very much dialed into all of the teams I know there are other four for four cities people probably listening to the saying or cities like that, too But it feels it feels like some very passionate fans as I know and I think it would be a tough place to just sort Of hop in as just an Eagles fan it would it would anybody else have a candidate to bump up from maybe teams So we're moving the Vikings up right moving the Vikings up Okay, I'm gonna have to you know, the Kevin O 'Connell thing is a me issue.
Caleb Martin helps Heat to 103-84 Game 7 win over Celtics and spot in NBA Finals
"The Miami Heat denied history and made some of their own winning game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals one O three 84 over the Boston Celtics to punch their ticket back to the NBA Finals. Jimmy Butler scored a game high 28 points to help Miami become just the second number 8 seed to reach the NBA Finals. The heat won three straight before dropping three straight in the series NBA teams are 151 and O all time when leading three zero in a playoff series. Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum had 19 and 14 points respectively for the Celtics. Get them cool ball, Boston.
Episode 110 - May 28th, 2023 - Boston Making History??? - Burst 12
"This is boss winning game 7, but I'm like they won by one by luck. So I'm like game 7 to me is like, if you're a boss and figure not comfortable. I don't know they're not comfortable. And if you're Miami fan, you're like, you're disappointed, but you're like, okay, we can do it again. But you have the legs for it. You got the breath, you conditioning for it. You have the mental stamina to endure this again. Exactly. I don't know, man. I really don't believe they do man. I'm sure Jimmy Butler does, but this is body can handle it because you know, like I said, Jimmy can he can run against the wall every now and then and burn himself out. And now we don't know. That wall you're talking about, I was looking to see it maybe game three or four of Denver. The wall is going to be tomorrow. That's the wall bro. I think you're right. Walls game 7, man. Whatever energy he could have. You could have had along with rest. That shit be sale, bro that ship is sale. Unless it plays out of his mind, has the best career. Bam is, to me, them is a key. 'cause they're giving you shots. But you gotta make it. Yeah? Yeah, you do. Four or 5 and 6, you gotta come bring it, bro listen. If I'm slow, you gotta put Kevin Love it on that front line, man. It's not right. Grab these rebounds. He's not right. Well, you need someone. You need someone. That's not right. That's a problem. He used to start and then they took on the rotation. I think he's hurt too. It's a damn shame. That's a problem with Miami is that they're basically limping into this playoffs. Damn. Tyler hero, Victor LL depot, Kyle Lowry, Kevin Love. For your players that were giving you quality, you know, minutes, they're hurt. Listen, the window that Pat Riley's got along with the way the east is. You got to get another great player for Jimmy. Now, so what do you predict for game 7? Honestly, if I'm a betting man, I could predict a ten point difference in favor of Boston. Maybe I'd say probably ten 13 point difference to your Boston. Most of my plus 13, I could see I could see an 87 one O one type situation. I got three and a half push. I can see either team pushing. And winning narrowly. I don't see a blowout. I can't see a ten point lead for Boston. What's up, man? I'm just, I'm looking at a team who had them dead to rights, I think that's going to be psychologically spent as they are physically spent. But more psychologically. Like, you know, like, you know, at this point, everybody's, you know, physically spend and stuff like that, but your body adjusts. Psychologically speaking, I think then boys is done, bro, I really do. You know, I don't think so. This is, this is the very worst case scenario for Miami. I think this is something they can salivate. Because if you think about their AC, no, they shouldn't be here, but they should be, but you are. So it's like, okay, if punch way above their way, but I think they've reached their, I think they reach their maximum, man. I really do. I got a three and a half. I think they have a Vegas guy at three and a half. Could usually when there's three and a half, that means you figure the home team. So usually when it comes to sports bets, if you see a plus negative three negative 7 or negative ten, they favor the home team. But I think they got a three and a half. So it was three and a half that means that it's a push. Listen, I'm looking at momentum. I mean, I don't see my ultimate Boston. Games four and 5. Yes. Game 6 to me, I look as a fluke. I think it's the same bet, bro. It was the hand of a guy that got that child 'cause they had less time, like if everybody was 2.1 on the clock, they're outta here. They're not, it's over. But this is the same thing. We said last year in that game 7, between these two teams. You know, there was one shot away from being eliminated. Yeah. It was Jimmy Butler, that made that shot, right? I think he shot a three coming up. He took you, buddy, but then go in. Yeah, he took it. He rimmed out. Yeah, man. So who's to say, but I can say it's a man fortune favors the bold man. We will find out. Boston's been hella bold in a situation that they put themselves in that they are like on the verge of turning around. Here's to me, who's a player, if Miami really wants to help Jimmy Butler out?
AP News Summary at 10:47 a.m. EDT
"AP sports, I'm get cool bought Derrick white scored on a putback with one tenth of a second left and the Boston Celtics moved to the brink of the greatest comeback in NBA playoffs history, holding off the Miami Heat one O four one O three Saturday night to force a game 7 in the Eastern Conference Finals. Jayson Tatum had 31 points and jaylen Brown 26 for the Celtics who became only the fourth NBA team to erase a three O deficit in a best of 7 series and force a deciding game 7 played Monday in Boston. In other NBA news, the bucks are finalizing a deal to make Adrian Griffin their head coach after spending the last 5 seasons as a raptors assistant. Stanley Cup playoffs tied to scored twice in a span of one minute, 27 seconds, midway through the third period and the Dallas stars beat the Vegas golden knights four to two to stay alive in the Western Conference final Dallas host game 6 Monday down three two and engulf PGA Tour rookie Harry hall from England and Adam shank shared the 54 hole lead at colonial. Gethin kuba AP sports.
Celtics thrive on 3s, beat Heat 110-97 in Game 5 to extend East finals
"Derrick white had 24 points, including 6 three pointers and the Boston Celtics dominated Miami Heat won ten 97 on Thursday night in game 5 to extend the Eastern Conference Finals. You can go top to bottom of someone that hit a big shot at a crucial time. And they're a good team. They're always going to come back and attack us. So we can never be satisfied. Jason Tatum and jaylen Brown finished with 21 points apiece as the Celtics claim their second straight win and trim Miami series lead to three two. Duncan Robinson scored 18 points for Miami which host game 6 Saturday. Geffen kuba, Boston
Tatum scores 33, Celtics stave off elimination by topping Heat 116-99 in Game 4
"The Boston Celtics kept their season alive with a statement one 1699 game four win against the heat in Miami. Jayson Tatum scored 25 of his game high 33 points in the second half and had 11 rebounds and 7 assists to help the Celtics avoid a sweep forcing a game 5 Thursday in Boston. We didn't play well those first three games. We didn't deserve to win. But you know, we didn't want that to define us, define the season. Jaylen Brown added 17 points, Derek white had 16 and grant Williams 14. Jimmy Butler led the heat with 29 points and Gabe Vincent scored 17. I'm geffen cool bomb.
Celtics' 3-0 deficit is surmountable to Boston Red Sox great David Ortiz
"Former Red Sox slugger and Hall of Famer David Ortiz knows what the Boston Celtics are facing and understands about coming back from a three zero hole. He's done it leading the 2004 World Series champion Red Sox from the three games to non deficit in the American League championship series against the rival New York Yankees. If you do it in baseball again and then the next question will be will you do it in basketball. Right. Exactly. And if you're doing ambassador, you gotta be the same city. Big poppy says if the cells believe they can become the first NBA team to overcome an O three deficit. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
The latest in sports
"AP sports I'm David Shuster, one game in both the NBA and NHL playoffs Sunday and they were completely different from a competitive standpoint. We start in the NBA with geth and kuba filling us in on Miami and Boston. The Miami Heat cruise to a three O series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals after blowing out the Boston Celtics one 28 one O two at home in game three. Gabe Vincent pace the heat with a playoff career high 29 points on 11 of 14 shooting. Caleb Martin added 18 points, Jimmy Butler scored 16 and bam adebayo 13. Boston stars Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown were held to 14 and 12 points respectively on a combined 12 of 35 shooting. Miami can clinch its second NBA Finals birth in four seasons with a win in game four Tuesday. And now over to hockey with Mark Myers reporting on Las Vegas and Dallas. Chandler Stephenson scored early in overtime to give the golden knights a three to two win over the stars and a two O series lead the knights were able to tie the score in the final minute of regulation on a goal by Jonathan Marshall, Aiden hill made 26 saves in the Vegas nets, Jake Avengers stopped 21 shots for the stars who were now zero in four and overtime games this postseason. Turning to baseball, Houston completed a three game sweep of Oakland Sunday's final two zero and how bad are the a's well they're on pace to lose 138 games which would be a record. Other highlights Sunday Oscar Mercado with 5 RBI St. Louis ten 5 over the Dodgers and Cedric mullin 5 hits Baltimore 8 three over Toronto. To golf and Brooks Koepka won his 5th major title, he won the PGA Championship by two shots. That was good. Yeah, this one's this one's definitely special. I think this one's probably the most meaningful of them all with everything that's gone on, all the other crazy stuff over the last few years, but it feels good to be back and get number 5. And in auto racing, Spain's Alex pillow captured the pole position for this year's Indy 500. I'm David Shuster, a P sports.
Heat roll past Celtics 128-102, take 3-0 lead in Eastern Conference finals
"The Miami Heat cruise to a three O series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals after blowing out the Boston Celtics one 28 one O two at home in game three. Gabe Vincent paced the heat with a playoff career high 29 points on 11 of 14 shooting. My teammates tell me time and time again to come off the picker and be aggressive and then make reads from there. So when they're giving me that confidence and I see a couple go in, you know, I'll definitely continue to be aggressive. Boston stars Jayson Tatum and jaylen Brown were held to 14 and 12 points respectively. Miami can clinch its second NBA Finals birth in four seasons with a win in game four Tuesday. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
Tatum sets Game 7 record with 51 points, Celtics beat 76ers 112-88
"A historic game 7 performance by Jayson Tatum has the Boston Celtics headed back to the Eastern Conference Finals. Tatum scored an NBA game 7 record 51 points and the Celtics blew out the 76ers one 12 to 88 to advance to the Conference Finals for the 5th time in 7 seasons. Just being in another game 7, being able to come back home in front of our fans, I was really excited. Just for the moment. Tobias Harris led Philly with 19 points, Joel embiid scored just 15 points and James Harden was held to 9. Boston host Miami to open the Conference Finals Wednesday. Gethin kuba, Boston.
The Latest in Sports.
"ESports, I'm check Freeman, riding the shooting stroke of James Harden who turned in his fight as playoff game, the Philadelphia 76ers, turned back the Boston Celtics in game one of their NBA playoff series one 19 one 15 Hardin had 45 points, including the go ahead three pointer late in the game, the sixers also played without the injured Joel embiid, they learned he was not going to play hours before game time. Out west, Denver has jumped out to a two zero series fleet on Phoenix, Nikola Jokić had 39 points, and Denver's defense holds the suns to 14 points in the fourth quarter to seal the win. On the ice 22 year old Swiss goaltender Akira schmid led the New Jersey Devils to a four zero shutout of the New York rangers, Schmidt had 31 saves to lead his team to the series win, Devils move on to the Eastern Conference Semifinals against the metropolitan division winning Carolina Panthers. In baseball Cleveland knocked off the New York Yankees with the late rally three to two, news off the field, the achy captain Aaron judge has been placed on the injured list with a strained right hip. Check Freeman. AP sports
Hawks G Murray suspended for Game 5 vs Celtics
"The NBA has suspended Atlanta Hawks card dejante Murray one game without pay for making inappropriate contact with and verbally abusing a game official. The incident took place at the end of the hawks one 29 one 21 game four loss to the Boston Celtics on Sunday in Atlanta. The former all star guard is the hawk's second leading scorer this postseason averaging 25.3 points. Murray will be sidelined for game 5 of the series on Tuesday in Boston as the hawks tried to overcome a three games to one series deficit. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
AP source: Rockets hire ex-Celtics coach Udoka as new coach
"Set to name email DOCA as the team's new head coach, a source tells The Associated Press, the 45 year old udoka spent one season as the coach of the Boston Celtics, leading the team to an NBA Finals appearance last season, however udoka was suspended by the Celtics for the 2022 23 season after a month long investigation found multiple violations of team policy, the Celtics officially parted ways with udoka in February while naming interim Joe Missoula as head coach. Udoka will replace Stephen Silas in Houston following the rocket's 22 and 60 season.
Young scores 32, Hawks beat Celtics 130-122 to close to 2-1
"Facing a three zero deficit in the first round of the NBA playoffs, the Atlanta Hawks rally to defeat the Boston Celtics one 30 to one 22, the south came within 1.1 hundred to 99 midway through the fourth, but it was Trey young and Dijon Murray's three pointers in the last two minutes that put Atlanta in front to stay. Young scored 15 of his 32 points in the fourth quarter. I know I can play like this. Like I said, last game, I wouldn't worry. I knew I can play the way I need to. It's all about reading and making the right adjustments. Murray scored 25 for the hawks. Jason Tatum led the seltzer with 29. Gary mckillop's Atlanta
Brown scores 29, Celtics hold off late rally by Hawks 112-99
"Behind Celtics guard jaylen brown's game high 29 points, the Boston Celtics took game one over the Atlanta Hawks one 1299 in their best of 7 game series. Brown's teammate Jason team added 25 points, including 14 in the first quarter. The Celtics held the hawks to just 5 threes the entire game and matched their largest halftime lead in playoff history with a 30 point advantage after two quarters.
Jalen Green scores 28, Rockets outlast Celtics 111-109
"Jabari Smith junior scored 24 points and grabbed 11 rebounds as the Houston Rockets won their 16th game of the season, beating the Boston Celtics one 11 to one O 9. Smith shot 9 of 11 from the field and he made his first 5 three pointers. One of the best teams in the league where he was in the finals last year, you know, just competing with him. Going down to the wire like that with a great team like that. It's real promising in this room. This is your girl for us. Jalen Brown let all scores with 43 points, but Jason Tatum was limited to just 22 points on 8 of 22 shooting for the Celtics, and he missed a layup at the buzzer. That would have sent the game into overtime. Adam Spillane Houston
Celtics' Enes Kanter Calls out Nike for Staying Silent on China
"Ennis Ennis Cantor NBA Boston Celtic centers you know This guy really is a breath of fresh air And I hope my buddy Stephen a Smith is giving him the compliments that he deserves Because I'm sure most of ESPN is not In the tank in the tank cut 14 this is again Ennis canter center for the Boston Celtics cut 14 go Your company says that you are making a positive impact in our communities And that is true Yes you are Here in the United States Nike stands with the Black Lives Matter Nike stands with stop aging paint Nike stands with the Latino community And Nike stands with the LGBTQ community And actually remains vocal about injustice here in America But when it comes to China like you remain silent you do not address post brutality in China You do not speak about discrimination against the LGBTQ community You do not say a word about oppression of minorities in China You are scared to speak up Who makes your shoes in China Do you even know There are so many forced labor factories in China For instance we will force labor A modern day slavery and it is happening right now in China Millions of uncles are currently detained sold and assigned to warm and forced labor camps Prisons and factories across the country They are under constant surveillance With long working hours and poor living conditions They are subject to political re-education They have no freedom of expression No freedom of religion And they are not even
"boston celtics" Discussed on Premium Hoops
"Of interchangeable ish wings. Guys were six five through six seven That all have length in in some ball skills like you kind of need that one guy who can allow you to do a little bit more in terms of playing the four if if there is another five out there maybe playing a little bit. Small way i agree. I think the thing is never been especially since he's been in. The nba like grants issue was never positioning like doing. The right thing is just as capable of doing it. And i think like i agree. Now that he's slimmed down a little bit. I'm hopeful but also it was just tough last year because so many mistakes were happening at the point of attack for the team like overall you really lost a lot of the ability to mask some of the issues that persisted with kemba walker And it just. It was a tough scene overall. So i'm very hopeful for grant this year and i think it's gonna come because like you mentioned like he is the one wing you can really count on outside of of jason jalen going to make the extra pass and they can see a lot of things and is good at moving the ball like he's just kind of like like talked about having that low usage fifth starter. I don't think it's going to be grant williams but like ideally. Someday maybe it is grant williams because like you need somebody who can do that. Like roy neo with the utah jazz. Like you and. I both have like a prolific love for roy. So neil what he does for that team like you need. You need something to have with. That and grant was another is another stocky. King could definitely make your happen. Who knows But scott. This was absolutely awesome. Man i appreciate you taking the time. I'm very excited to watch boston. Celtics this year and more borland. Text you about the boston celtics. Do you have anything you want to plug before. Gary you mention my kind of plans as a content creator or kind of up in the air so i don't really have anything right now I think the best thing to do is just keep on following premium hoops I might kind of expand upon that there but in the meantime even if you don't see me there you will see mark schindler as well as other illustrious contributors scott. I appreciate you mann's everyone listening. Thank you for listening. Most importantly have yesterday..
"boston celtics" Discussed on Celtics Beat
"Everybody, here we go off. Welcome and another nice. New addition to Celtics. Beat Adam Kaufman with you and joined by a guy. That is just honestly, he's he's an even better guy than he gets credit for which is saying something because everybody says what a great guy he is and it's true. Cedric Maxwell an NBA Finals MVP part of the clns media Network here. And also, of course the long time radio analyst of the Boston Celtics home. The various platforms most recently and currently 98.5 The Sports Hub. Max. How are you buddy? I am doing just fine. It is always enjoy when they get on your show with you that long cuz it up and talk about NBA basketball or whatever. You know, we wonder into we have to do that sometimes. Yeah. Yeah loving the fact that I am having a great summer so far. We do wander, there's no doubt about in fact, let's wander right off the Hop, you know, we have plenty of time to get into Celtics and summer league, which I know you've been keeping an eye on, of course, offseason moves a month since our last show the Celtics added Dennis Schroder will get into that. But but let's, let's Veer for a second. So this is, this is a reward for those who are watching versus just listening. I'm wearing one of the one of the great homage. As, as the company is NBA Jam. Sure, it's not show you this. Can you see this Max? Yeah, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, obviously, you know, the game NBA Jam. It's got the ratings dead. On speed and three pointers, and dunks and defense. I feel like and and I'll tell you for people that can't see in or just listening Mikhail has looks like he was kind of disrespect in the dunk category. I mean, he's got just a little sliver of green and that a whole lot of red. He was a better dunker than that way. He was about to Duncan in Larry. I can definitely say that and I think something like three-quarters of the bar and I'm like, you look at Larry. Oh, so that was defense. I think that Kevin.
"boston celtics" Discussed on The BosBabes
"BetOnline, your online Sportsbook experts. So, it was case know a thing or is Casey. You didn't really get cheese like that. The cheese that they had is called cojita, which is like, almost like it's almost crumbles like Feta, but it's not fed up wage. It almost looks like it's from a sheep not like necessarily from a cow. So it's it's very different, it's completely different. But I grew up eating that stuff and I didn't know any different. And you know I was a kid that I like Donald's back in the day to like I thought if I ever won like an All-Star game or MVP or something or whatever, my mom would take me to McDonald's but I might have went to McDonald's like three or four times my whole entire life and it was such a big deal to be able to do that and but most of the time, it was meat beans and tortillas. That was it almost almost seven days a week, but I did enjoy like, like to my, my dad's from Mexico Bay. So is a bunch of his family and they all live in Southern California. One thing that I really embraced about about that was we, we had to get together almost every single weekend. We would go to someone's house, took a big barbecue and I grew up with a bunch of cousins and I got a chance to, to meet them and I, you know, like I'm a little white kid like walking around and go just trying to hang with the older kids at the time, but the food was tremendous wage. Rice was unbelievable. So I I still to this day, like love beans and rice. I love Mexican food, but I'm not necessarily a huge, like, put some sour cream on that thing. But I do like guacamole, I do wage, are you do eat avocados, but but that's sort of like the food. I grew up liking now. I'm much different. I like, I like a lot of different types of food and I like trying different things, but you asked me what I hate growing up and what I love, and when I go back and see my mom, that's what I'm eating. Excellent. I'm a big case. So, I know you said you guys didn't really case. So, back in the day, but I'll okay. So love me so long and, of course, I love some Tex-Mex which obviously is a lot different. I'd assume than actual Mexican food itself. You guys are not listening to Brian Scalabrine, I am so, freaking thrilled to have him on here today. That's not your typical Sports show. I'm.
"boston celtics" Discussed on Celtics Stuff Live
"I guess we can talk about this in the offseason, but I'm only do with this John, but I guess the thing is, is I just hope that there isn't damage being done the way that all of a sudden, Terry Rozier didn't want to be here anymore birth. You would have been a perfect fit if he'd stayed and we wouldn't and we'd still have a young team that's developing and got some, you know, cut some, you know, chemistry and that's what Kyrie Rob from us and we lost that way. I'm sure there's more people that, you know, are involved in the souring of Terry Rozier, but, you know, nobody was higher on him than Danny. So, how the hell do we lose him? And, and by all accounts of purposes, they were tight, but I don't get it. Just hope that the same damage hasn't been done here. And that is why I prefer the veterans that are in town be on the downside of their careers, looking to help young team, get where they need to go versus taking a prominent role in the offense and that's my butt. But if anybody's going to have that position, chemist, a character guy to have it, which is why I don't really care of trade him or not. Because I know if we do trade him the returns, probably going to be Pennies on his contributions, you know, if he stays healthy next year. So that's going to do it for this wage. Show as a reminder you can follow us other stuff live on Twitter at CSL underscore tweet live. You can follow John at CSL underscore Duke. Follow. Me also page unfollow, too. By going to ask yourself water, store Duke, and unfollow. Have you tracked that by the way, like, do you know how many unfollow steps come out of it? Now. No way. Other than I think I picked up a few actually, but see, see, that's what people don't get. They don't, it's still, you know, it's still don't get it, Howard Stern, got his name long long time ago, so many M&Ms, so many people media and it's like, the only difference is is you weren't doing it to drive attention. You were actually earnestly hoping to be able to share an opinion and have a conversation. So there's that I got a, I'm going to tell you. I've literally have not looked Oh yeah, dude. I'm losing followers. I'm down in 993. Well wow, I think it's just in activity. Do people? I think the dark clean up their jobs that were. Oh, that's true. I thought I got bought and I wonder a thousand though. I'll just not on here anymore. It's a dying. If it weren't wage. I would never. Come on here. I would never get on Twitter if it weren't for crazy, Celtics, Twitter. That's the only thing. That's only thing holding me to Twitter. And the only time I open Twitter is watching a Celtics game pretty pretty much, or I'm getting ready to talk to you, you know, or or Something's Happened on the Celtics. That's like, literally, I'm only a Twitter user because wage, that's that, that's it. And I remember when you pulled me into it, I was like, I don't really want to deal with the character when it's and then it wound up being like basically my platform of choice for a long time off. We'd appreciate a rating review and have a heartfelt. Thank you to all of you first listening on behalf of the founders, killing us media. Nick gelso my co-host, John Duke. I'm just pulling Thanksgiving to this week's episode of Celtic stuff. Five..
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"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Right so i don't know but i would say this chris over his last several years which is which are the years that hardy gets criticized for. He had chris paul for two years. He had russell westbrook for a year. He had dwight for better or worse for part of that. So let's not pretend that those aren't players that you know if you plugged them into if you could time travel and put those players on the warriors now like chris. Paul would be better than anybody else. The warriors have dwight howard would be the best big. The warriors have You know russell westbrook would be the best best player of the warriors has so like you know. Let's let's look at the full expanse. Yeah i agree. And you know if i'm gonna say i learned anything about steph. It's that i think. His career could have more longevity than i thought it originally did. I mean steph. Because of his kind of his his his frame. I often wondered if his body would hold up you beyond eight thirty three thirty four but here. He is h thirty. Three having an mvp caliber season and oftentimes howard. And we've discussed this before. Shooting is not a perishable skill. If you have it you probably gonna have it. Throughout the course of your career and steph is showing that at age thirty three. He can play like this. I see no reason to believe why he can't do this. Through like thirty four thirty five thirty six maybe not mvp level but certainly all star level. And if he can do that that just widens the window. I think for golden state. Where initially maybe you thought it was two years now. It might be three or four with this group provided they fill in some of the blacks with guys that complement curry in clay. And even draymond with that group so that to me is the biggest takeaway from steps run. This year that i think he can be a high level guy for several more years to come well. There's clarity now right like he's eligible for a massive extension this summer and if in his sonny oh that works funny how that works so you guys just plan their minds of these he. I think he would've anyway. He's a competitor. That's the other thing that we've seen underscored right like dude loves to play loves to play at a high level loves these moments that he's having i mean and that's again like it's so much fun watching him but the clarity for the warriors is you know if you're like this with this roster if steph couldn't do what these do what he's doing you might think twice about an extension. You might think twice about how you're planning the next couple of years as you reincorporate. Clay is do. We really have a championship window. Like this is proof that you do. If steph were dragging at twenty two points a game at a lower efficiency and the warriors are ten games out of the playoffs. I think. Now you're starting to think. How much do we want to invest in him in an extension. He's really important to the franchise but are we making a mistake locking ourselves up into a guy who might be in decline and we really have a championship. Well now all that stuff is is answered. Yes you have a championship window..
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"This tape when the mavericks first round. You're going to eat those. That's for sure i might more cuban. We'll be sending me all caps email hundred percent. I want to get to a couple of questions from social media. But i do wanna ask you We gotta touch steph curry and what steps done this year. Ten straight games of thirty plus points in the mvp conversation. I respect to johnson. I don't think he's guaranteed to win by any stretch. Thank you for that. You know twitter vomit. Recently magic that was that was a lot of fun to read. But it it tells you something right about steph curry. I mean we've i'll let you go first. But i've learned something about steph curry this year. What have you learned about stuff. I don't think this is what i learned. But i'm glad to see him do it. Just because like. I'm somebody who always believed in steph curry's ability to play at the highest level whether it was with clay and dream on next to him and the street the numbers warriors or whether it was with kevin durant. I think that people there are people out there. I am not one of them to be clear. There are people out there who have often been skeptical to to critical of his career. Saying well you know you beat you for first of all because he wasn't finals. Mvp he had kevin durant for the to the second and third championships and that first warriors team that won the championship. The cavs are missing. Kyri and kevin love so there are people who want to asterisk curry a little bit. Even though he's a back-to-back. Mpp wants unanimous the first unanimous in history and has anchored three three championship teams and Final sacrificed years there. People especially in the james harden camp who will say but look at because they need to. They need to fire back right. The criticism of harden his postseason failures. So it's yeah well. He didn't have the benefit of all those players curry had. Let's see curry. What hardened did and elevate his team every year. Make a playoff team by himself. That's what steph is doing right now. And i know the warriors were the fringe of the playoffs right now. He's missed a bunch of games with injury. And if you look at the game played their twenty seven and twenty to fifty five percent win rate that would be forty. Five wins normal year and this year would translate to being solved the seventh place where the mavericks right now. The and that's what i think. Pretty lacklustre talent around him to say the least hid. Who's their second best player at now. A an aging draymond who's three years removed from the all star game James wiseman was a nineteen year old rookie center. Who needed a lot of work. Couldn't even make it through the season. Healthy andrew wiggins kelly oubre ray like bays more like. Where's the talent on this team steph. Curry is putting up. Mvp numbers at eight thirty three with a lot of miles on him like he's been incredible..
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"But it's within reach. If you don't like what happens at the seven spot now go finish sixth. It's in your control also. I understand like the reason. They're in a precarious. Spot is because they have been affected almost more than any other team in the nba. By covid january. It was a disaster for them. It was tough. Would try to make up for it ever since and they have done really well. They've rebounded really nicely and she'll be proud of that but that's why you that's one of the reasons why it's appropriate this year to have the plane as a buffer because other teams mean toronto miami teams that are that are that we knew were really good last year. Play perennial playoff teams. Look at where are miami's farther down in the state of this should be. Toronto is on the edge of playoff slash plan. Other teams have been affected too. In fact most of the league has been impacted on some level all to varying degrees of course. But that's why it's nice to actually have a little bit more of a safety net in this season in particular because it's been such a strange and screw year. Yeah i think long term. The play in tournament needs to be tweaked. Either think you don't need to have seven and ten involved. I have no issue with eight and nine being interconnected with some kind of play in game. I would like to see it. Be a situation where the number nine seed has to be within one or two games to have the opportunity to make the playoffs. I don't wanna see a scenario unfold. Where the eight seed has to play. The nine seat in the nine seat is like six games out of the playoff picture. I'd like to see it be a competitive race. They just add one more game to it to settle the differences. You disagree on that eight tickets. I know i've got. I've got two questions all right. So what is this. let's say let's listen to miami as as the example. Let's say that miami and your scenario there's a it goes deep and miami. Is this miami team. But they've lost jimmy butler for the first half the season they spend the whole second half scrambling to make up for lost time once he's healthy in their whole again and they finish five.
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"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"He doesn't have that deep playoff resume. I think having to retire now actually works against him when his hall of fame case gets made because he wasn't going to be a star on this nets team but based on what we saw in the last couple of months or a couple of weeks or whatever was since he signed there he was going to play a role with that team as the starting center with that team so if the nets were to go on and win a championship and aldridge was going to play a role on that team. I think that would have helped his hall of fame candidacy and without it. I just think he's going to be that guy he he is going to inherit the role of that guy that becomes the bar. Like if you're better than lamarcus aldridge you get in. If you're not as good as lamarcus aldridge there's no chance you can. Thus the fifty percent fifty one percent chance of making it according to basketball zell. Exactly i mean you hate to say that for a guy who is at the end of his career who was not going to necessarily statistically do anything else to solidify his case. You hate to say that. He falls short of the hall of fame by maybe a couple months of play and making the finals with the nets. But that really might be when it comes down to. Because as i noted. There's no one signature playoff run or moments that says this guy is more than just those stats. There's nothing else to elevate him beyond his stats. That are good but not spectacular. Right let me ask you this. Let me ask this out. What's the difference between lamarcus aldridge and obviously the biggest differences. Chris bosh goes to miami. Wins a couple of championships and it goes to four straight finals with wade and lebron right. If he stays in toronto the championships never happened. And so you could say that bosh was simply the beneficiary of going to the right place at the right time right. I would say though that bush was the clear absolute centerpiece and foundation of those raptors teams. And i think i think played it a higher level than lamarcus aldridge overall if you go peak to peak. You brought up chris webber. We'll see if he gets in this year but like weber's peak was higher than the margins. Peak weber was also a playmaker weber was also just a much more dynamic score and was the most important player of a sacramento kings team. That you know like so like lamarcus aldridge made one five conference finals with the spurs chris. Webber made one conference finals but weber's covers. Finals were a product of chris. Weber's in large part and that's in sixty one games and was within. You know a breath of knocking out the lakers. The year of the lakers three peat. And that's an all time team too you know. They're that close to knocking out the shack. Kobe lakers in year. Three of a three peat. So chris weber's peak and his overall impact is is higher and i like the definition of hall of fame. That's this that when when when in doubt if you're not sure whether the other resume items like stats and an all mba and all that if if you're not sure if all those are there and you're still asking the question is he a hall of famer ask yourself. Can you tell the story of this era of the nba without this player. And chris. weber's case you cannot. Those were really important. They were influential. They were exciting and they made an impact. Lamarcus aldridge is career. I'm sorry falls. Short.
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Week. Lamarcus aldridge the seven time all star. Five time all nba forward. He announced his retirement. Because of a heart. Irregularity felt something in his last game against the lakers. Aldridge if you follow. The course of his career has had some heart related issues before he hasn't spoken publicly about it. But i would imagine. This was probably just the last one that he wanted to deal with. So we'll get to the ramifications on the nets and other time but lamarcus aldridge the player. Do you see him as a hall of famer. And i gave a couple of his credentials. They're seven time all star five time all nba. He scored very nearly twenty thousand points at nineteen thousand. Nine hundred fifty. You've probably like forty something away from getting their he's got some good statistics Some good longevity in this league do you see aldridge as a hall of famer. Yeah i mean first of all obviously thought that the marcus aldridge. Hopefully whatever the hard issues were is is something that settles down as a as a non nba athlete. Like you can have heart issues. That are not life threatening if you're not pushing the envelope and so hopefully whatever it is Settles down and and he's he's has a A great long healthy retirement and and wish him the best. I you know he had a really really really nice career right. Like sounds like the run-up to saying somebody's not a hall of famer. which is what. I'm going to say seven time. All star five. Like if that's the outline it sounds like you've got the requisite credentials right. That was two seconds and three thirds on all be ready was first team all nba. That's not necessarily a the only the be all end all on how to judge a hall of famer but career averages of nineteen points not quite twenty eight rebounds. Not quite ten one point one blocks. He finishes sixty second old time rebounds and fifty first all-time in points scored so he was a really good player. Who had a long enough career that he climbed those leader boards. And as you point out you know just shy of twenty thousand points which has often been a bar for entry for the hall of fame. Basketball reference has an algorithm of some sort that estimates. You're you're hall of fame probability based on the guys who are already in and for lamarcus aldridge. It's fifty one percent like he's right there at basically fifty fifty for the hall of fame. Which is why this debate will go on for some time. I i suspect. I just think that chris there's nothing to round out his resume. It's the basketball hall of fame not the nba hall of fame. So if you're if you're nba stats. Were really solid. But not dominant not spectacular. Not mind blowing and his are not well. You could still get in if you wanna gold medal. He was never on the olympics. You could still get an if you had some like really historic tournament..
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Good like. It's not my money i wanted to spend spend spend. Let's go go. Get miles star kelly. Doug mcdermott by the way. That team could use. Doug mcdermott brad. Stevens would have found a use for rotation one hundred percent. Let me finish with this chris. The stakes were boston this year. If they wind up getting beat by philadelphia in the second round. Does that mean anything. Do you think they'll be a reaction from this team. If they get beat early is bradley. beal available. This we're no bradley beal Around so so. I don't know that's the big question right. Like if this core just can never boston will offer romeo lankford to i granted. That's that's that's what harrison barnes stuff. The reason harrison. Barnes is not a celtic because the offers work painfully. Low for harrison barnes. And the fact that i mean sacramento was just really really hoping that playoff berth. That work That's the way we're gonna get a sack the sacramento kings. We're going to get to send boston a four man. That would swing this. This season and that was evidently jabari parker instead of harrison. Barnes art look if it doesn't work again if say they get second round eastern conference finals but they don't get over that home. There's there's a discussion about like. Where is this team going. Okay like his tatum and brown. And whatever the score enough you know. In and campbell. We didn't really spend a whole lot of time on it. He's playing better now but there is long-term questions about is he the ideal fit. He's making reaching kenny. Continue to buy into that and be a productive player now into his thirties. And so there's some question mark moving forward You know if tatum convenient continued to develop their they're still on the right path. And i do think there's if if a bradley beal comes available there's tough conversations to have and this gene does have to at least pay mine to what is who who is..
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Is it is it. Is it just as simple as that. You know like there was a lot made about how the celtics have the most days miss because of covid and it's pretty pronounced compare like ah there's that fancher tracking in a last. I looked there up until hundred and forty days and if you added the bottom. Ten teams in the league combined didn't have that many days mask. Were still a another twenty day. Drop off boston and next closest which is like dallas. Oh there was something to the idea that they never had continuity and cohesion or had that group out there. Their injury report if you look today when they've got a six game winning streak and they're missing half team nine. Cova illness and robin williams has got a sore knee. So there's just there's still going through it a little bit. But i do think having guys back tatum. Especially being further out of those Woods though he's admitted that he's still using an inhaler and doesn't doesn't quite feel himself but having the core healthier has probably promoted a little bit. Better brand basketball mannix. The one that i remain leery about is when you look at their numbers versus really good opponents. You know they. They're they haven't beaten the sixers they haven't beaten the nets got blown out by those teams. They struggle against the best teams in the west. Like as if i guess. That's where my pessimism promise from. I just haven't seen it against the team that they're gonna see as early around two in this postseason. No i think. That's that's fair. And i'd like to see them. Take on those teams with the full deck. Right like robert williams healthy smart healthy For as out and he was as you know was starting to get his mojo back before he went out of the lineup. I think the celtics used to say we got plenty of firepower and then they go out and sign your parker like and then they play jabari parker lake crunch time. Yeah i he played tweet about the time but he scored more points in one game with the celtics. All season in sacramento. So i do worry about the offensive punch that they're gonna have come playoff time. But i do think that the development of robert williams what smart brings to the table defensively energy wise. Plus what they can get from forty four hundred me is like the ultimate wildcard. Like he didn't. There wasn't a lot of fanfare in forty-eight coming to boston in fact it was more about well. They got forty. But they didn't get aaron gordon so they didn't really make the kind of big deal that the celtics needed to forty as a twenty point per game score we saw in that game against houston where he's at six three pointers in the fourth quarter. The guy can shoot it. So i think if he comes back and looks like the evan forty eight we've seen in orlando that to me is is the potential difference maker that i'm still not sure how is gonna fit in. Yeah i think we all know what their top five is capable of right. That corfu or of bud. Jalen jason. marcus. Whoever plays the center position like they've done well with tristan when he's in there but robert williams certainly add a different dimension..
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Think he can be a useful player a rotation guy but not a starter on a good team Likely bench guy and we can talk about possible destinations. But i think there's a few times you have a whole. Let me before we go to possible destinations. Like i agree. No trade a buyout. Those negotiations would be fascinating because like on the open market blake griffin. What's he worth like something above the veteran's minimum probably but he's thirty one is atlanticism as you pointed out as waned. He's shooting thirty one percent from three this year bat is actually a market improvement from the twenty four percent from three shot. Eighteen games last season did not. There's not a lot of money out there for that. Howard like not even within the same hemisphere. I guess of the money. He's making right now. You think blake griffin wants out of detroit. That bad that he would leave. I don't know how much money would take or does detroit say look you're going to have to take a steep pay-cut or else we'll just you know bench you and make you a super sub see. That's the thing like. I think the pistons have to be careful here because you know at some point. The union could get involved. We saw this years ago with stefan marberry. When mike d'antoni arrived in the knicks decided dantonio side. I just don't even want you here in my rotation and more basis. I'm not taking a nickel less than what i mode. And there was a standoff longtime eventually got resolved he did take much more than a nickel less to get out from under it but he got his freedom and the knicks got a tiny cost savings. The pistons detroit. Weaver have made a decision already. By pulling the plug on blake griffin. And saying we want to move to get you want to work to get you somewhere else. They know in the back their minds. The trade is almost impossible. They know that you know at some point is probably comes about and yeah bu- like you're not going to negotiate and blake griffin down to twenty million instead of thirty nine million for next season by way anytime a player is waived with that kind of money and a player option on the player automatically kicks in so there definitely on the hook for that thirty nine or a negotiated version of it. But they wanna move on. Chris and blake griffin clearly. Wants to move on somewhere in there. Maybe it's giving back a couple million. It's not going to be a lot. Detroit's knocking to save much but detroit was not going to get those cost savings anyway by holding onto him and having a mac. Debate has option After the season so they were going to be over the barrel moneywise anyway. they're rebuilding anyway. They're not going anywhere next year anyway. They're not in free agency this summer. Anyway the cap room is almost irrelevant. So i look. I can't negotiate four or them or for blake griffin. His reputation will do find job of that themselves. But if they shave couple million off and it gives the pistons a slight amount of relief then he goes and he signed somewhere for the veteran's minimum like that to me is how this is going to play out. I don't see another scenario. Can we just pause and take a moment for the absurdity of paying a guy like forty five million dollars to go away..
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"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Davis gets back. Like it's not gonna hurt them. The lakers don't have to worry about homecourt advantage. They don't have to worry about being the top. There is no homecourt advantage in the nba. Right now it may be. It'll be relevant by the playoffs but also the defending champs like. They're not a team. That did veterans team. They don't need to worry about positioning as those. It'll fall out of the playoff race. Which they're not then i. I don't worry about the short-term loss. I think the bigger concern. Chris is more you know is. Can this be taken care of this injury. Be taken care of in a way that that anthony davis comes back and he's fine the rest of the year or is it going to linger. Yeah i agree with all that. The lakers to me if they go and ten over these next ten games are ever long. It takes for davis to combat. It still is not caused for. You know incredible concern. It doesn't matter if there the first seed or the sixth seed even if there was home court advantage out there right now. It still wouldn't matter. It's still a team that is fully capable of winning at least one game on an opponent's home floor and then seizing that homecourt advantage away from them right now. It's all about getting back to health and the early march timeframe i push that even further man like one again early. We're not doctors. We're not diagnosing. Ad and saying yes do this that or the other. But the one thing when k. Was going through what he was going through. When i did talk to doctors and trainers one thing they told me was that they didn't feel like katie had enough of ramp up before he went back into games remember because he kind of had the calf injury and then he kind of got back into practice right after practice. He was back into the nba finals. Like the ultimate high pressure situation. I mean if you're the lakers extend the ramp even if it pushes to six weeks coming back four or five six whatever. It is extend that ramp up. Make sure there's not a recurrence of this injury because that's the big fear at this point. Not just you know that it becomes you know the dreaded achilles injury but if we're dealing with this every couple of weeks where eighty got a calf problem. it's sore. He's got to sit out for two or three games. You're better off viewed lakers. Either you struggle over the next month plus in sitting him down and just letting your team play out while he gets better. But i mean that all you really need him to be one hundred percent healthy come may or whatever. The playoffs actually start. If he's entrepreneur healthy then it doesn't matter you're seating it doesn't matter your positioning. It just matters that he's back on the floor. You're going to beat whoever's in front of you in that first round most likely if eighties back on the floor healthy. Yeah and that's and that's the thing when you are the defending champs.
"boston celtics" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"They are but you know. I'm looking at like minutes per game right now through the roster and so just again as a quick thought exercises just the context for this if anybody at the beginning of the season had said peyton pritchard third of the way into the season would be averaging twenty one minutes a game or the grant williams be averaging nineteen minutes a game or the shimmy oh be averaging nineteen minutes a game and you can go on down like you'd say what what happened. What will happen to pay. Pitcher will be averaging twenty one minutes a game you either. He's also averaged twenty points a game and he's indispensable and they're playing him because he's he's just a breakout stud that nobody saw coming or something else. Terrible's happened like this is not the rotation that anybody envisioned coming into the season. And it's because they've had all the injuries and other absences that we've talked about so like we can't lose sight of that but you're right. They lost gordon hayward they didn't really replace him And you know whatever he went through the last couple years he was still a really valuable player. He's been a really valuable player in charlotte. He's been great and great charlotte. Yeah and it just shows you look at the way charlotte charlotte's not going to be like a great playoff team but charlotte it is is proving a point that i thought the celtics was one of the reasons i liked the last few years. Which is charlotte's got gordon hayward despite the despite having drafted lamelo ball despite having terry rozier despite having breakout claire davonte grim. Like they've got all these guys who can do a bunch of stuff with the ball in their hands in one one perspective would be. You can't do that. They're they're all gonna get each other's way and they only the ball in their hand. No they're the best team in the league right now because they've got so many guys who can do multiple things with the ball in their hands..