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Inside Washington's Name Change
"John How's it? Goin'? It's been a little bit busy. You might be having the busiest off season well, always busy right now to all the deck Prescott stuff, but but you pretty busy. It was on? July six and a couple of things happen. I told my wife said. I'm about to work in eighteen hours a day on July six. NFL. Opposite in what is going on, and it turns out. That was actually probably a pretty good day in hindsight. John covers the Washington DC based NFL TEAM FOR ESPN Since. We are talking about names I. Do feel it's necessary to point out your John Crime I- Amina climbs two different names not. Although I will say had some relatives. Years back did like genealogy, and at one point, it was kind real in Europe, so we could be related I. Just want to put that out there well. I do get mistaken for you. Know I think there's a similarity so. So back to the name at hand. John The Washington football team announced on Monday after much speculation many reports that they will be retiring their nickname and logo after completing review that began on July third. This has been a conversation for a very very long time, but the team's principal owner Daniel. Snyder has been on the record. Saying the team would never in all caps literally change its name, and then here we so before we get to why this happened. And what's GonNa Happen Next? I just want to ask you as a beat reporter. Did you ever think this day would come? Well. Let me let me step back from that pre. George Floyd, no, because in the past. We've had a deal with this topic many times over the years especially in the last seven. I think the rise of social media has kept it alive, but during that time the plan the strategy here for the reds for Washington was to write off the storm. Just weather the storm. Go go to reservations connect with native Americans and do something like that then when you saw the social unrest this year. You started to seep in your head like they're gonNA. Come after them again and I'll tell you when it really really thought they work to be about. Run at this time was. There was a stretch it about a week where George Preston Marshall, who original owner of the of Washington? And he named the team, and he moved the team from Boston, to Washington will statue was outside their old stadium are k. well. They removed the statue, not the team, but a company in DC that owns that land, so you tweet that out and I'd say. Say Ninety percent of the mentions after that on twitter, where about what about the what about the name? What about the name? The next day team says they're going to retire bobby? Mitchell's number only retired one of the number in their franchise history, so they tweet that out and I wrote a story. Put out there. What about the? What about the name? I've. There's just becoming way too much of everything. They did route this. If they put out a statement about George Floyd about black lives matter, it would always come back to their team name. It was to a level that I hadn't seen before. It does seem though at least from the outside that the true catalysts the thing that pushed this over the edge was the teams naming sponsor Fedex and Fedex asiyo. WHO's a minority owner coming out on the record against the name? Yes and I'm going to back up a couple of weeks before that because there some parallel timelines that led to I think this occurrence and one of which was Dan Snyder had reached out I was told by multiple that he had reached out to the League a few weeks before that, and had already started to engage in conversations with the NFL, Roger Goodell about a possible name change along that same time there's the group of eighty seven shareholders and investors were combined six hundred twenty billion dollars in the lead by investor advocacy groups, so they're the ones who targeted Fedex Habsi company Nike Bank of America. It wanders sponsors. If you don't sever your ties here, you know. That's what they want to sever their ties, and so that's what they're pushing. When Fed, ex came out with the statement. That's when when people I've talked to said. That's when they knew it was over. I WANNA to talk about those groups. All of the activists who've been working tirelessly on this for years, but I thought it might be helpful to break down why the name exists in the first place. Where does it come from? The name when it first. Started I guess or was mentioned throughout history was about refer to the color skin and there is. I've got her who worked for the Smithsonian magazine, went back and researched it and found that it was way that native Americans would refer to other to differentiate themselves from. Whites or blacks or whomever else was here, so they referred themselves the redskins than it seemed to segue into a negative connotation, which you know, you'd see posters or read about posters, offering rewards for bringing fifty dollars for bringing the scalp, redskin or bringing Redskin, in which meant the scalp, so it certainly segue into something. That was a negative connotation. So how did it come to be the name of this particular NFL franchise? That's a great question, so we go back to nineteen thirty two and for anybody listening I was not covering the team at that time so nineteen who? Shared a stadium with baseball's Boston braves, so they were called. The Boston braves the following year. They moved to Fenway Park with the Boston Red Sox, so the story that that no his come about from that is that they wanted some sort of. Alliteration with the Red Sox, and so they went with the Redskins, but they also had a coach Lone Star Dietz and several native American players on the roster, George Preston Marshall said he was naming it basically in part because they had a native American coach. Now there's controversy over long star deeds whether he was actually native American up, but that was the given explanation at that time.
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"If you don't you can yell at me and say this is an interesting but I was reading this morning about the history of the Redskins name like where it came from, because it is kind of fascinating. That George Preston Marshall took the Braves name. They were what they were the Boston Braves. They played up in Boston, and they played at Braves Field where the Boston Braves play. So that's why they were the Braves, which was very common back then for football teams to take the name or a similar name of the baseball team that was going on for a while. Look at the Bears look at the giant's when you think about it with the New York baseball giants. And what happened is they hike the rent at Braves field, according to football perspective was interesting to read. They hike the rent and rather than pay, George Preston Marshall said, We're going to find a new place to play. And so obviously he's bitter is not going to call them the Braves anymore than I played at Braves field, and so they ended up playing at Fenway Park, and they picked the name Redskins. The teams head coach was known as a native American Lone Star Dietz. So they had the Native American imagery. Boston actually end up signing Native American players. They had this Native American chief logo already printed. And so since you started playing in the Red Sox names they went with Redskins, and the thought is it was designed to make Bostonians think of the Red Sox Red Sox Redskins. There you go. That's how it kind of happened. Interest. It's It's weird to think how back in the day you're naming football teams have to baseball teams, but it was so common that no, you're right. And some of it obviously stuck and some of them lied. He said. Somebody you know, cities, you know, bear, you know, Cubs bears Ah, tigers lions, You know that kind of thing you write. So even if it's not exactly the kind of a rock look of it, so when they moved to Washington, I mean, they could have changed the name that could have gone with senators. They could've followed the Washington baseball team. Thought they liked the name Redskins. They kept it in state ever since, until until at some point next week, when it's changed to whatever it's changed him. We'll keep an eye on it. We'll come back with more your calls. 877337 66 66 billion.
"boston braves" Discussed on The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap
"The cubs really were. Terrific story in nineteen, thirty two, because overcame adversity throughout the season to make it to the world. Series So. Ruth, obviously going to be a dominant figure in the book. He's in the prologue and he's at the end so. The book has a beginning in an ending. It's around roof and you know he was a monumental. Figure in the story of the Twentieth Century, an athlete and as a cultural icon Charisma winning personality a great back story. exceptional talent as an athlete. So you're right, you can't write a book about Babe. Ruth and not have to. Take, center stage, he's. He's GonNa. Take it was the you want him to or not. but there was enough going on elsewhere in baseball that I felt I could build a story around ruth and still write a compelling story that told the story. up the. SEASON WE'RE NOT GONNA have time here in the time allotted to us now to to get into all the elements that make nineteen thirty, two special, but we're talking to Tom Wolfe about his new book. The call shot Babe Ruth Chicago cubs in the unforgettable Major League baseball season of nineteen, thirty, two, the called shot itself in the world series. As you said Babe. Ruth's last world series would play two more full seasons part of season nineteen, thirty, five for the Boston Braves It is It is a moment of course here we go. The cliches again shrouded in myth obscured. By the fog of time I could go on if you want to, but but I want Tom. When you dig deep, though into the contemporaneous sources, as I know you did where do the myth and the reality intersect, and where do they diverge? Issue really is how one interprets the phrase. Called shot if one takes it. Sort of in the terms that are used in billiards. It means pointing exactly where you're going to send the ball That I think is probably myth. I think ruth never really claimed that, and although he did a lot of finger, pointing and arm-waving and Bat, waving some of the directed towards the Outfield I. Don't think he actually pointed to where the ball landed up. But the other part of what called shot is is that I think? Ruth did predict that he was going to hit a home run, and he predicted the pitch on which was going to hit. During his at bat, Lemons were being thrown at him from from the stands Mike. Fans comes in the dugout were taunting him And you know there's a lot of trash. Talking going on account went to to to roosted didn't offer at the first four pitches. He took four pitches and held up one finger indicating he had one more to hit. And then. According to the home plate umpire. Ruth turned to him and said if route puts the next pitch in here Charlie route was. The cops reports to the next pitch in here I'm GonNa hit it out. So I think by demonstrating by demonstrating.
Statue of former Washington Redskins owner removed at RFK
"Okay. Players in the NBA. Wow, that's that's that's him a revelation. My goodness be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with Chris Broussard Rob Parker Weekdays at seven PM Eastern Four PM Pacific on Fox sports radio and the iheartradio APP. There's an interesting story that came out today. The statue in Washington the statue of the former redskins owner George Preston Marshall was removed from RFK stadium. So, he was against, he was the former owner, but he was against integrating the franchise in the early nineteen sixties. So props to them for removing it. But I. Here's what I'm going to say as we see all of these confederate statues. Flags being removed now you you see the statue of the redskins owner. There was another one I can't remember the college. I think it was a college perhaps where there was another statue removed. I say go. Let's go the whole way. And start changing the names of these teams that are these nicknames that are Indian nicknames and look I'm not an expert on native American culture. But I I would say leave it up to the native Americans. But! Redskins is a racial slur. That'd be like the. Hat calling the team. The say ambles or the end words. I mean that's what it is, and my thing is this. If we really are against racism. You can't just be against racism that affects black people. You have to be against racism that affects all of the people that have been hurt by it in this country and the native Americans clearly. Were hurt by it. And so the only difference Allison. Obviously, there were different forms of oppression. Slave reverses annihilation darn near annihilation. But. The only difference in why the names of these native these native American nicknames remain. Is because native Americans by and large don't have the power in American society that blacks do so. Blacks have the power to make noise. We have become part of popular culture through our athletes are entertainers politicians? We have actors in the whole nine yards we have. People who do we have enough power to make noise to complain to March to protest and we have enough numbers being twelve thirteen percent of the population. So, they wouldn't dare have a team nickname a black slur at this point. And now they're removing all these other elements of the culture that have been offensive to black people, but we gotta do the same thing for the native Americans they just don't have the population to make a lot of noise about it or the power, but if we're really against. Him How can we pull down these symbols of black Oh Prussian, but not pulled down these symbols of native American oppression. And I don't look I. Don't know about the seminoles. Is that you know again I would leave it up to the native Americans. But if the native Americans, I know, some of them are differ in their opinions, but get their leaders. To African Americans. Get our leaders to speak on stuff. Get their leaders if they're leaders feel like these things are offensive. The braves the Indians the Redskins, maybe even the chiefs. If they feel like they're offensive change the names period and I think it should be. There should become a part of the conversation. This is interesting. Chris I gotta be I gotTA. Plead ignorance here I never looked into what the name redskins beans. Did you ever think to look it up or anything? Well, just think about it, though Redskins, it's like saying black skins are yellow skins, or I mean we know the contentious relationship to the least between the whites and the and the native Americans. When I grew up. Honestly you know it was the stereotype of scalping. Indians and things like that. Those were stereotype. Even Cater Bait yesterday I learned. Something I'd never knew that's enough I. Had you not the black? The black players didn't know and that's my point. If we are eliminating stuff like that and I'm not saying we shouldn't, but that's minor stuff right there. There's a lot of mine. American there is a lot of minor stuff, and this is interesting because we're seeing. We're trying to seem like. We're getting rid of all these symbols. Guy That you said they were moved to statue. George Preston Marshall, so he and a group bought the Boston braves, and they ha. They had also the braves and the Redskins, so there was some kind of connection for them to native Americans now I don't know why. If you're naming a team, you would name it the braves and the reds. Would you name it after I mean most the bears, the tight you know, most of these names are are yeah. Boy. I guess cowboys is. Doesn't make sense to me my only pushback and again I'm not saying this shouldn't be done is. If, we're trying to tell these young athletes. Hey, Dwayne Haskins quarterback of the redskins. You shouldn't suit up this fall until they changed the name of the Redskins, and then we pit the young. african-american quarterback and his whole team will, it wouldn't be a
"boston braves" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"There have been about two hundred seventeen thousand games about four hundred thirty four thousand lineups. So it's possible that we've never seen an alphabetical lineup which is pretty interesting because if you just asked me about this off the cuff, and I had no time to think about it. I would've said sure we definitely seen alphabetical up. Think about how many baseball games there. Been but it's actually odd twice not overwhelmingly likely that we have. So this one I cannot answer on my own. I sent it to step less specialist in Hirsch of baseball reference. And I thought this one might be tough. And I didn't know whether it would be worth his time. I'm always weighing whether to send him these things or not because I bugged him enough as it is. If could just bug him about everything I'd probably Email him every day. I try to restrain myself. So this what I just said it just might be more trouble than it's worth. But if you feel like it he emailed me an hour and a half later with the answer. Of course, not don't even know how long it took him to see the Email. So for all I know it took him five minutes, actually, look this up. So he says apologetically just a note we have lineups for more than one hundred eighty thousand games. We don't have them for most nineteenth century game. So this isn't complete I forgive you. The in her sh- for not having all the lineups for nineteenth century games. He says among the three hundred sixty. Thousand five hundred forty lineups that we do have just one was an alphabetical order by house name just one. Yeah. It's kind of incredible. Right. So the magic alphabetical order lineup occurred on may twelfth nineteen thirty four Cincinnati Reds versus Boston Braves. I bet the let's see how many people were in attendance that day not given. So the not giving people who were in attendance that day. Probably didn't even realize what they were seeing but the Cincinnati Reds lineup on that day here. It is actually includes a couple of famers, although not really good health Amherst. But here we go sparky Adams LINC Blakely, Jim Bottomley chick. Hey, Mark Koenig, Johnny Moore. Babo Farrell, Gordon Slade. Alan stout. And this is interesting is Farrell was actually the manager to he was the player manager. So he made up this lineup and he put himself in it. And he made the medical order. Lineup happened. And he was fired later that season. So that give him any job security, but that is pretty cool till the happened once in recorded baseball history and the first eight then he went above and beyond. All I asked was for medical. But he says just because I was curious I checked to see the number of occurrences through each lineup spot. So through the first eight there have only been fourteen occurrences through the first seven seventy and then it gets bigger from there. But yeah, only one time they say you see something new in a baseball game every day. And that was that new thing for that game. I was actually going to guess that. It's happened something like five or ten times not because of probability because of you know, those games were like a guy plays at all nine positions. Anything like toward the end of the season managers would just do it on a lark. But one that is the perfect amount. Either one zero was the perfect response question. I'm glad that it was one of me to all right? Well, thanks, then. And thanks to Evan fore. The question Taylor says in f. Episode thirteen sixteen Ben said the following. Hopefully, Joe Mauer himself will one day be in the hall of fame, or at least the plaque with his likeness..
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"It was a remarkable collapse of the franchise and forty nine and fifty and fifty one and fifty. Two is very was what happened to the Boston Braves and the ownership remainder saying, yeah, the ownership, it Luke for reading, continue to easy festival owner, and he was the one who moves the Braves to Milwaukee. So it wasn't a matter of ownership change. All right. That is an interesting story and itself. There's no doubt the history of the Braves is a very, is a very interesting one, I think. And again, I'm not an historian. I just play one on television. Right? Is the if you look at look back, it is going back into even the national association days in it's sort of more informative years. Right? Is the longest continuously running franchise in in baseball history? And you know to understand if you're in Atlanta Braves fan or even a former Milwaukee, Braves fan. We've talked about that in a previous episode as well to know some of these little asterisks in the Boston version of this clubs. Heritage is really interesting, and again, it is nineteen fourteen. I mean, very few people if any are still around from from that time, of course, but to know sort of the sort of the one year wonder, I guess of this franchise that you know, by all accounts didn't do a whole heck of a lot much more. You know, in the modern era of baseball than this one sort of scintillating an amazing second half of a season in nineteen fourteen to win at all back in the day, and I appreciate Charlie. You're sort of your your recollections of your history and your pursuit of this. Is there anything from from this story, if anything that that that either continues to resonate or perhaps changed people's mindsets? I mean, is there any any lasting legacy aside from the fact that was an interesting year both for the franchise and baseball, or you know, is there something more substantial to this to this run of the the Boston Braves in nineteen fourteen. I don't know anything more substantial. I would say that as a baseball historian and you know, sabre member sabre dedicated to the study of baseball history. I would be good if the contemporary Atlanta Braves fans would take some interest in the long history of the franchise going back to the nineteenth century. And especially with the, you know, develop some awareness of out the nineteen fourteen and fifteen and sixteen Boston brace. I doubt if there are a lot of Atlanta Braves, French Atlanta, Braves, fans around today, even know anything about the Milwaukee Braves, which is, you know, that's kind of sad. Most people, they think history in terms of, well, there's now. Now, and then there's back then you know, they don't. They don't think of the seamless connection between then and now and how then affects now and how we oughta understand that. But that's, that's all that I was suggested that the the people who follow the Atlanta Braves today, maybe. Should be made more aware that long before the Atlanta Braves, Milwaukee, Braves, and long before that there were they the Boston brace..
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"They're going to be those who suspected. That gamblers may have got to some of the athletics, but I I, it's the rumors really didn't even surface. I mean not not. They weren't even they weren't even given given much prominence. So no, I don't think that damage had any effect on things it. It was. I think things were were played strictly only up and up. But I think the the problem was the raise, we're so hot and the several of the athletics players were just not. Really not for the series. They. It hers at the morale on the team is not very good, and it. Interesting. Also that attendance for the athletics at shy park that season had fallen, even though the athletics we're winning. Another pennant ended up here is that a lot of their fans, they just got tired of their winning so many times. So. So it was not a good attendance here for a team that that one of the kinda, I well, let's let's talk about sort of the aftermath, right? So the Braves winning sort of against all odds, the nineteen fourteen World Series there. I, I guess, ever certainly has the Boston Braves. But it was not the beginning of dynasty by any stretch of the imagination, nor by the way, was it necessarily a kick in the butt for the Philadelphia as either who sort of went on their own sort of downslope some of it engineered some of it, maybe not. So maybe a few years of aftermath of sort of what became of, I guess, both the as, but certainly the Braves after that amazing a bolt of lightning season in nineteen fourteen. Fourteen season two tours team apart and. They they. They had awful team in nineteen fifteen in every respect again until the mid nineteen twenties cars, the Braves are concerned. They were a strong competitive team in nineteen fifteen inch sixty finish second nineteen. Fifty two Phillies. They finished third in nineteen sixty, but actually had a better record than they had in finishing second the previous year. So they they were. They were a competitive team. They continued to draw well, they're brace feel and it looked as if they would continue to be a good respectful team in the National League for some time to come. That didn't happen. Evers pretty much played out Bill James, his arm. And various players who had had career years and that one year nineteen fourteen we're never that good again and some of Smith first baseman simply retired. And went back to running his. Butcher business in Baltimore. So the Braves after the nineteen sixteen season faded and they were not much good again for, oh, they had a couple of respectable years in the nineteen thirties. But there was after World War Two that the Boston Braves were again a good team at Ashton of league. And of course one the initially pin at nineteen forty eight and most Cleveland series, but it took them until nineteen forty eight to even get close to or actually winning another pennant again. I mean, that's an amazing dry spell after having one at all and in nineteen fourteen to go just that length of period of time to not eat tonight. Even, you know, not even another pennant. Let alone a World Series parents, although you wonder how long it's gonna, take Kansas City Royals. To come back again after they went for a long time without a pet. And then you know one a couple. Bad again, so I don't know it. The the Braves. Yeah, nineteen forty eight with Lauren Spahn and Johnny Sain Bob, Elliott, Alvin dark and eighty steak at second base. They were very good king and. Had you know, bright years ahead. They set an attendance record for the first time. They go over a million people, Graciela million, six hundred thousand that and. But then. Four years later, they were four and a half years later spring of nineteen fifty eight. Fifty three. They would move into Milwaukee and it was..
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"They had just lost double header that Brooklyn Dodgers that that day July fourth. And I guess they had a game off a day off that next day. And then literally from July sixth through. I guess it was the early part of timber. The brakes put together a forty one game and twelve loss streak forty one and twelve in that period of time, right? Have having started at twenty six and forty and really became in contention until the week of the seventh and eighth of September where they actually beat the New York Giants to add three were the leading club at the time and moved into first place. I mean, and then you know, come September October. They were essentially on fire and is amazing turnaround, and you just wonder, you know, this now gets into sort of issues around baseball, right? So you get hot. You get lucky. You get team starts. Gelling starts playing well, you wonder, sort of what one of the things superstition. I mean, what sort of other sort of, I guess, intangibles you you, you wonder, sort of came into play to make them sort of coalesce into something that became somewhat of a confident of winning winning. A proposition on the field after having years in even the last two years of ownership, not being the case. Well, of course, the Braves, Nike fourteen where almost totally different team from the Braves of nineteen thirteen exceptions. So it was a made over team factor. Is that the giants? Of course, we're perennial power in the National League with managed by Monroe. The giants had an aging team in nineteen fourteen and well. These guys were on the downside of their careers, and in fact, the giants finish dead last the next year. So that was, you know, the way they faded in the last part season while the Braves just ran away with sort of a harbinger of how bad the giants we're gonna be in the next year and then McGraw had to rebuild that team which he did and then came back and won the dependent in nineteen seventeen. But the. Giants were. Everybody thought that they were the the stronger statement National League in nineteen fourteen. But it turns out they were not at all. They were not nearly as good as everybody thought they were. So. Before we move onto the rest of the season. You mentioned this quite this character rabbit Miranda. All right. So Walter, James, Vincent rabbit, quote, unquote, Miran Ville. Maybe a little bit of insight into Hammy seems like quite the character. I think he was kind of known as sort of a clown kind of character. Right? I've sort of a jokester if you will. He was there. Buddy also was a good solid ball player and had a long career. In in the National League. And of course. And later voted into the hall of fame by the veterans committee veterans committee. And I personally don't think that rabbit rabbit Miranda has any business the hall of fame anymore than a number of other people who are in the hall of fame do. But he, he was a very popular figure. One of the things he did was. Palm pop flies to shortstop area. He would make this basket catch instead reaching up for the ball. He would catch it at his his built, and that was very popular with the fans. You know, they, they left to see rabbit do the the basket, catch all around the National League. So he was just a. He was just a character, but a pretty good ball player, a good shortstop and. Around for a long time. He managed the pirates during one period of the nineteen twenties, and he was a good time manager. He enjoyed having a good time with his players more than he. Was interested in doing serious managing. Just he's one of those guys that we, you know, we, we don't have players like that anymore. Real characters. He was just that he was, you know, sort of like later on dizzy, dean, and Mark Federick, and some of the other characters who come along. But they don't come along anymore. Everybody is. Straight arrow and concentrating on his game and their introduce. Everybody says the same thing. And so that's part of of Morand villes appeal. He was just the guy that. You pay your money to see play because he was he put. You know, he, he gave you something to watch apart from just, you know, they weren't area baseball play. Well, I guess the fans showing up for for the team as well besides just him right?.
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"It's it's an awesome way to kill time and occupy stimulate your mind perhaps when you're is busy doing something else. And of course, there are plenty of interesting books to be found, especially in the world of sports sports history. I think our audience might enjoy a few of these course, including the seminal work by baseball legend. Jim Boughton called ball four. It is not only written, but it's also narrated by him. You could use your. Free credit for that book. And of course, she know all four centers around the nineteen sixty nine one year wonder that is the was Seattle pilots of major league baseball, but obviously the the background for whole lot of other observation about sport of baseball. And it remains to this day. Perhaps one of the most celebrated writings about the sport of baseball in this country. Of course you can also if you're not a big baseball fan, you can go in the world of soccer with the autobiography, called my turn by Johann cry, the late Johan crime, perhaps one of the world's best ever soccer players he of Dutch heritage. Of course, plenty of great legendary years at club play as well as national team playing for the Dutch team as well as for our audience. Maybe we'll be an interest a, his journeys in the North American Soccer league in late seventies and early eighties with the Washington diplomats and the Los Angeles as techs. And of course, if you're into football, this probably know better. Especially if you find yourself really interested in the sort of deep and rich history of the NFL with the book called NFL football. History of America's new national pastime is written by Richard Caputo and narrated by Marlin. May that to is an audio book that you could choose from over. Like I said, a hundred eighty thousand titles. There's got to be something in there. It's going to be interesting. You invite all means,.
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"The Braves were available and somehow he talked to Gaffney who had the money into going in with him, and it turned out to be a considerable success story. Not so much award left, but forget. All right. So let's maybe get into what Gaffney and his management kind of took to relatively quickly. I mean, we we're talking about, I guess him taking ownership of the team, what circa nineteen twelve that right. Yes, that's right. So that's not a long period of time to what became an amazing story two years later, but maybe you can give our audience sense of perhaps what was different in this. Ship go around for this now newly rechristened Braves franchise from sort of his his, his takeover of the team in nineteen twelve to, you know what leads to the seeds of what we're going to get more into as the nineteen fourteen season. But how do those first couple of seasons sort of unfold and what was going on maybe at the time after heard George stallings who had been managing the international Igli top level minor league. To manage the Braves. Stollings had a long career in baseball, going back to the mid eighteen nineties, and he had managed, oh, a lot of different teams in the minor league seed, even the bandaged Detroit in the American League and it's early years. So we had a lot of experience in baseball. He'd manage the New York American League team in nineteen o nine and nineteen ten and had brought them up from being miserable team which they had been in nineteen. Oh, eight into becoming respectable. And they got a new unit highs third place before he had a falling out with the New York owner and withheld chase, notorious how chase who wanted to manage the team and undermine solving so stallings quit and drifted back to the international lead, but he was a highly respected baseball, man. He was a native Georgian and very much a southerner and also feel he was regarded as you know, a southern gentleman, but what's. The baseball games began. He was no gentlemen, sellings my Conny back managed in street clothes, which meant that once the game began, he couldn't leave the dugout. That's under baseball rules. So he had, you know, you're captain of the team had to arguing out on the field, but stallings would do plenty of cursing and yelling, and he was he was known for one of thousands mouse in baseball, and I stern taskmaster. So he inherited a bunch of mediocre players and started to shovel them around and get rid of them made some trades that nobody thought much, but mostly turned out well, got some pretty good players from the minor leagues. And then he got Johnny Evers from Chicago Cubs Evans had a falling out with Charles Murphy, the cubs owners. Earlier, I mentioned, you know how personal things were in those days and. Evers. Then he wanted to leave the cubs. He was given his release and he signed with both Braves for a big contract multi year contract. Which was some sation trade at the time because everybody thought Johnny Evers was. The outstanding field leader. In among all the players in baseball and all the different teams. And indeed Evers became a key factor in the. Into success of of the new Boston Braves. So stallings made some shrewd moves. It got Evers. He had a couple of good pictures that he inherited Rudolph and Tyler. Then he brought up Bill James from the minor leagues who won twenty six games in his first year. So he, you know, he somehow managed to put together. Accommodation at work, and one of the things that he did which was unprecedented. But what he did with unprecedented was that he began what later came to be called platooning. He used three different outfielders. Depending upon whether the team was facing kind are right at right handed hitters founders left handed hitters guess right. Had tune at all three outfield positions that had never been done before. And it worked. None of these outfielders six outfielders was outstanding hitter, but they all timely hitters and they, they're so that pursuing was one of the main factors are the breeze became successful. All.
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"But yeah, put a lot of money into the club and the most important thing he did was to hire George stalling. To manage the team, and he changed the name to the Braves. People who might have Jecht to that nicknamed now doesn't integrates made even Merican twenty. In fact, the reason most breeze were named the most embrace was because. Kathy had been as big shot at Tammy hall, and he was a brave. His designation was a brave in the Tammy whole organization. So he just dick named the team, the Braves, and he gave them, you know, various. Various, I cons we're tach to uniforms and advertising, which are what have you that would suggest the the Braves. So things began to change. And eventually after the raise won the nineteen fourteen and one made enough money, then Gaffney undertook to build a new ballpark and which getting in the spring of Nike fifty. It's amazing how quickly things could be built those days and by August of nineteen fifteen. The Breyer's were able to move into raves field which see about forty two thousand people. It was the biggest baseball facility in the world at the time and many people claimed it to the fires that had ever been built. And so that's where the Boston Braves were until until they moved to Milwaukee for the nineteen fifty three season and and people. In Boston, visiting Boston it for my understanding is that there are some portion still of that original structure that are part of Boston university's Nickerson field, which is sort of their main smart yield and complex. I've, I've not seen it, but I'm sure for some of our listeners that could actually be a bit of a pilgrimage now. What remains is the huge right field pavilion from Braves field. And that's, that's the stands on one side of the playing field there Nickerson field, which I understand it used to be the boss university football field, but not stand now is just it's soccer field. We've never have codes around the sport of soccer in this country, and Nickerson field actually has a quite a very interesting role to play in some of the early days of the North American Soccer league as well. Some of the the Boston based team sort of there. It's not necessarily a professional standard by any means in terms of size and scale, and that kind of stuff. But it's another interesting footnote which is where we wind up. Let me ask you one last question before we get into the actual onfield performance and all that. So what is it about Gaffney? I mean, any insight is to why he purchased the team, why he was intrigued y, you know, given the Red Sox success. Relatively in short order after they're, they're launching nineteen to one with the American League. Like why was he was the third of of a number of different owners right over that short period of time to sort of deal with what is now this Braves franchise any as to why even cared or thought he what he maybe saw all of this that could be, you know, good Kerr's a New York man born in rid, and he. John girl. He had been in New York Giants fan, and I think the reason that he got interested in the Braves because John Macomer board talked proposition to him. Now once ward and Gaffney had bought the franchise, they didn't get along at all. And so ward so out. But you know, the two of them had big plans in the beginning ward was. Right here. Say he's a New York man. He was native pennsylvanian, but he lives in New York for a long time practice low in New York and the he wanted to get back into baseball on we're another and he wanted. He was looking for an opportunity to buy into a major league team..
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"I got out of exposure out of it because it happened to be fortuitous good timing because about the time to call the cop book came out in nineteen Eighty-four. Pete Rose was creeping up on cobbs career base hit Ceric so that Pete Rose gave me a lot like my book. A lot of a lot of their period of a couple of years there where every time Pete Rose neighbors mentioned tie cops ever spent. So that worked out quite well. And I was so pleased part or faith that I said, well, look around for another significant baseball. Figure that interest me. So do the few John McGraw and Spanish in nineteen eighty eight, and then went on a general history of published figures. Later tonight. Two. Another baseball of Rogers Hornsby, and then later Trish speaker and then published books and baseball history. Most recently, the miracle Braves and in at the beginning of this year, two half game pin it about the nineteen eight American League season. So I've been retired now info from teaching Ohio University since two thousand seventeen. Excuse me since two thousand seven and but have continued, you know, to be involved in. Researching and writing baseball history and and continue to be a member of saber nineteen sabre context. Although I really have run out of ideas now and I don't have a current trudging, so I don't know. I'm eighty two years old. I think maybe I've written enough for career. I don't know about that. So I mean, I, I need to your bureau, obviously, absorb underselling a little bit because you have a prodigious amount of of works out there in the in the baseball field. I mean, you mentioned you mentioned some of them, but you know, there are, you know, if you're really interested in some of the earliest days of baseball and some of the intriguing stories, and frankly, that's partially why we kind of do this podcast. I mean, it's it's all started from sort of fascination of teams and leagues that somehow for whatever reasons either had been previously incarnated and no longer with us are frankly, just just died, you know, of ugly or sometimes. Inelegant deaths along the way, and it's sort of interesting little sort of corner of the world, but you know, your your contributions, shall we say to the to the world of baseball history is is quite substantial. So you know, I urge our listeners not only to as we get into this story about the the miracle Braves of nineteen fourteen also look into some of the deeper works that Charlie has written these Rogers Hornsby and tie Cobb. Biographies in particular are quite substantial and quite foundational, I guess, to the the overall understanding of some of the earlier generations of baseball stars. You're talking about teams that have gone or. John girls, giants along going from New York and the Boston Braves are long gone the to Milwaukee of into Atlanta, but no, they that the so-called deadball era. I have some qualms about that term. But anyhow, early twentieth century, I find fascinating and a lot of ways, and that's for the most part. That's the period that I've written baseball history in why era in particular, and and what particular is your issue with this sort of deadball term? We've had a couple of episodes that have touched on various aspects of of that quote, unquote, deadball era. But I'm curious as to why that era that era's interesting to you generally, and then what the the terminology issues you might have with sort of how that those two decades or so in the early part of the century were defined or have been defined for one thing. As far as the that period is concerned. You have a lot of colorful characters, Cobb and Grohl, and you know the Chicago Cubs take every chance and and so on and saw a lot of colorful teams and it was a much smaller universe in those days. The relations between owners were much more personal in about an oftentimes very acrimony is as opposed to basically baseball today is corporate business, and you know, it's it's hard to name who owns which team you know anymore. In fact, the NFL owners are more visible than baseball honors Jerry store.
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"At checkout and you're gonna get fifteen percent off of all of your purchase. That's purchases. He says, yes, and that's at sports history, collectibles dot com. And we thank them, of course, for their patronage of our little show Graham here. All right. Let's let's. Move into the world of old time. Baseball, we're gonna get into the the nineteen hundreds add, particularly the nineteen fourteen or so version of major league baseball in particular, the Boston Braves in their miracle season. And the interesting asterisk in history of this team with our guest, Charlie Alexander and here is our conversation just about right now. I guess it would really be helpful for for my audience to kind of get a sense of, perhaps a little bit of your background, how you you're obviously quite a well regarded in the sabre and other baseball historian worlds. I'm just curious before we get going into the story, sort of your background, how you got involved in baseball history and some of your adventures that lead you to the store that we're gonna be talking about nineteen. Fourteen Braves. Well, on native Texan. I grew up himself eastern Texas, southeastern corner of Texas and a little town called China. Besiege I believe or not, which was fifteen miles west of Beaumont Beaumont was had in the. Nineteen forties and mid nineteen fifties had franchise and the Texas league, which is class AA league verse strong, doubly leaks. So parents are. So a lot of games there in Beaumont and Texas league games, which was the closest baseball to us. And that day, you know, because the closers major league city was from Saint Louis and hundred miles away try. All right. This is circa what year? What years? So. Well, I became a baseball fan in nineteen forty six. When the Texas league started up again after it closed down during the second World War. So at the age of ten and I, you know, sort of fish for my bad here was a big baseball guy. I, you know, got caught up in baseball, the age of ten, and you know, then later loan, you know, read it and talked about it and and played it through high school and then ended up writing about. So it's it's been, it's been a lot of fun. My connection with baseball from, you know, from my childhood. So what what kinds of things sort of got you involved in actually a chronicling. This was wasn't your fulltime job. Was it. I had no idea when I. Went to college and at Lamar now, the mortgage diversity, Bomani commuted fifteen miles in there and took my via in three and a half years, and it went on to open and took my impeach in history and was trained in, you know what? You might call more traditional feels history. And then early career I taught, and I wrote about the more traditional kinds of history, American social and political and cultural intellectual history, and pro several books and had a successful career. And then had as at a certain point about nineteen eighty one. I was at Ohio University but had been versus nineteen seventy and. I don't try something new and always been interested in Cobb, and I was familiar with his career. You know, again, from the time that I became a baseball fan, I read a lot about it as well. I never has been a really good of tie Cobb a lot of, you know, shallow stuff. So and undertook the Baga cop. Oxford University press gave me a contract, and I wrote the book and it was real reviewed, turned out very, very well all around and..
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"Sports, and we love delving into teams and leagues. No longer with us, including, of course, previous incarnations of such. And this week, of course, is no exception as we get into nineteen fourteen or so baseball. Yes, it's a hundred four years or so ago. But around this time, one hundred four years ago, the what is now referred to as the miracle Boston Braves. And yes, this is the team that is the early roots of today's Atlanta Braves, few young whippersnappers out there as this time in July sort of post post July fourth or so one hundred four years ago when. The Boston Braves who were literally sitting at the deep bottom of the National League at that time had begun to indeed a literally a real off dozens and dozens of wins after a relatively more than start and literally win the National League pennant by the end of the nineteen fourteen season by ten and a half games literally running away over the then New York Giants. And then steamrolling their way into a World Series that the Philadelphia as of that time, the Connie Mack led Philadelphia as were the substantial favorite to win and wouldn't you know it? The Boston Braves team that hadn't had a winning record in in many years prior and frankly, were the number two team if you will, in the in the city of Boston behind the the American League, upstart Boston, Red Sox. One that World Series in nineteen fourteen over the heavily favored Philadelphia as four games to not a clean sweep the first ever in modern World Series history, a clean sweep of the World Series and to win the Boston Braves their their first ever National League championship. And frankly, the the last one until I guess it was the mid nineteen forties. I think nineteen forty eight or so when they actually won the National League again, a very interesting asterisk and part of the the current now, Atlanta Braves history with our guest this week, Charlie Alexander who's written. I think the definitive book about the miracle Braves. It's called a not surprisingly the miracle Braves, nineteen fourteen and eighteen sixteen it is published by our friends at Farland Enda. Many of you may know maybe if you don't, you sabre historians of course, but for those who are not. Should know that Charlie Alexander is a quite a prolific, not only a story, but a writer of baseball history with some very interesting and well documented tomes arguably the sort of thar taste of such of such of folks like Rogers Hornsby and the Tycom and number of other great sort of recollections and stories and biographies of some of the key players of the earliest era of professional baseball in the early nineteen hundreds. But this is a little bit of a a sampling of what Charlie's work is all about in. It's a our little investigation into little little chapter of the Boston Braves, this of nineteen sixteen actually nineteen fourteen right when they won the World Series in the two years prior or following, we sort of get into it with our guest, Charlie Alexander in seconds. Some very interesting tidbits. Even again, if you're. Not sort of a musty old baseball, deadball era, you know, history fan. I think you'd find some interesting little tidbits about about the team and the city of Boston and and what eventually evolved into over the years into now. Today's monitor Atlanta Braves coming up a with Charlie in just a couple of seconds, but I, I'm gonna get a couple of promotional things out of the way. Of course I want to remind you that to audible is the best place on the planet to get an audio book and there's no better.
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"Homered to left into the nets atop the high wall stangl came out of the doug this is the first game he's ever had to manage demand and he salon as dimaggio came it's around the afternoon the bases drive on the ban and then in to the beat game the fat twin and saturday dimaggio rex two rex more home gain runs e in the yankees won the game and on because sunday rod demanded another a little home fishy run by the and way the that yankees that won the game reasoning way after bro sixty he broke a couple five games you know what i mean demaj came to boston guy played rubber three band snaps one three donate hit to four home runs brooklyn and the yankees salon won you that can break pennant against rex boston by one game by winning saturday and sunday at yankee stadium at the end of september in cases dangle who had been regarded as a clown who managed boston braves and the brooklyn dodgers from the thirties and never got out of the second division all of a sudden is a hero won the world series that year thought you'd get a kick out of the the great damage story well our phone number is eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six we have calls and again you can text your question is that the right term jack okay you can text your question at hashtag ask john sterling it's a beautiful day of the stadium the angie's pitch their very best luis severino the yankees began the year by winning the first two games in toronto do you know they haven't been two games over since and they have a chance to go to over today with a victory severino pitching against an ex yankee was here for short time last year lefthander hymie garcia so that's all upcoming your phone calls your tax whatever you want to talk about and i do mean that whatever and we'll talk more about the draft i'm talking about the draft at all the playoffs now we'll talk about all those things as we move along so john sterling at the stadium sterling on sunday and we'll be back in just a moment the fan each sunday with sterling john sterling and one easy way to reach john is to send your question on twitter using the hashtag ask john sterling and john.
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"The why with the day and again nobody really knows i mean you you can conjecture and you can theorize all you want but nobody really knows exactly how this is played out behind closed that's why we're we're coming up with dear i do like the theory that robert kraft the old boston braves fan from way back in the day as a kid growing up in brookline wants to have that one guy that is his derek jeter that he is wedded that that this is this is rubbish crafts time to think if you open up the middle destroyed on his desk gut like boston braves pens and tenants and stuff there is there is inside that harden businessman a sports fan and inside that harden business man i believe the sports fan in robert kraft wants to have tom brady around forever and can't abide by the notion of tom brady finishing on his brilliant career as joe montana on the kansas city chiefs right it just seems joe nemeth with the rams i think it was an oj with her and when people will nine is in united's yet right arges rational for and when when people say oh so what are you saying eight craft stepped in at the last second and said build trade garoppolo now know obviously you don't think that's quite how it went down by it just very unveil a checkin right to sell o on an asset because i do i don't believe in rappaport spent i do i think the patriots were offered at least one first round pick for garoppolo this past off season i mean look at the price of quarterbacks around the league team trade multiple first round picks for guys who haven't even taken a snap yet so yes so i do believe the patriots were offered a for haglund asa was drafted by the nfl team having never played in cluj and it is because they had so much depth the quarterback that you had an nfl quarterback who couldn't crack the starting lineup that you euasean on castle i two thousand eight the franchise them much lesser players and garoppolo we think trade him for a second round pick now mike rabo was in that deal as well but i also think this offseason they could have franchise garoppolo.
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"In the first world series 1914 boston braves beat the philadelphia da's the first world series is jewish and became the first president a game this being the first usually ten world series 1943 ninety forty seven in the nhl allstar 1960 it for simul in the first black manager this season four you're listening to sixty minutes on wbz newsradio 1030 tonight you're going to hear from a forty one yearold man who has remained largely unnoticed even though he was one of the top decision makers of the trump campaign his name is brad par scale while steve bannon paul manafort and kellyanne conway our marqui means you're familiar with par scale was in the back room operating as the campaign secret weapon he was hired to run the digital team but over time came to oversee advertising data collection and much of the fund raising as digital director he's being drawn into the investigation of whether the campaign colluded with the russians in the election it's a charge he denies he says he was focused on competing with the clinton campaign's huge advantage in money and tv at what he decided to do was turned to social media most importantly too facebook i understood early that facebook was held donald trump is going to win twitter's how he talked to the people facebook was invaluable and facebook is how it one i think so i mean i think donald trump won but i think facebook is was the method it was the highway which has carter along in brad par scale was in the driver's seat in the beginning of the campaign he worked alone at home in san antonio but by the end he had a hundred people reporting to him one of his main jobs was to send out carefully tailored lowcost digital adds to millions of people and these were ads on facebook facebook weed them on twitter cool search other platforms facebook.
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"Details can be found at 700 wlw dot com rick you gino newsradio 700 wlw andy 700 wlw reds' update here's a pitch at atswara one god back at a date satterfield sarah for what was the one runway doubt jump to a threerun christian cults swag zanetta hive live all caring out a love failed god ball god since his bats red hot all night long and the top the padres at great american ballpark last night 11 to three reds hitters finishing the night with four home runs gained two of the fourgame series later on tonight the forecast is next newsradio 700 wlw news time 1204 and now the iheart radio weakens sports time capsule what's evidence boards vantage powerball freak rise take you on a trip back in time to this week in sports history we back in 1930 six jesse owens becomes the first american to win four gold medals in one olympic games 1950 won the first major league baseball game to be televised in color is broadcast brooklyn dodgers defeat the boston braves eight two one in color the 1979 st louis cardinal luke brought gets his three thousand career hit 1980 six cincinnati reds playermanager pete rose the alltime hits leader gets the final hit of his career number four thousand two hundred fifty six this we can 19th sixty four mickey mantle sets a baseball record when he hit home runs from both the left and right size at the plate in the same game ten on the same week in 1995 make the quick passes away at the age of sixty three thatcher by hard radio weakens sports time capsule what now the latest forecast from the newsradio 700 wlw weather center overnight tonight we'll see cloudy skies with your low dropping down to 61 for your tuesday will see widespread fog and cloudy skies early on clearing out for the afternoon we'll see a high of eighty one mostly sunny on wednesday with a high of eight two there is a chance for some rain on thursday that's the forecast from your severe weather station newsradio 700 wlw radar look a good sixty four degrees weather brought to you by travel centers of america our next update's at 1230 i'm rob carpenter newsradio 700 wlw news on air news on demand 700 wlw dot com.