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"Live from NPR news. I'm Lakshmi Sang Texas is making progress in its fight against Corona virus? The state reports at the number of new cases has been falling for several days now. A couple of weeks ago, a team of twenty medical specialists from New York arrived in Houston to help with testing thousands of people as they were about to leave. Mayor Sylvester Turner. Thank New York, Governor Andrew Cuomo for reaching out. Graciously offered to send support. To the city of Houston to assist in our testing, recognizing that we're in the midst of a resurgent different picture and Florida, which confirmed more than twelve thousand new cases of the virus today that putting overall number at more than four hundred thousand in the state so far president trump is now seeing eye to eye with public health experts who strongly warning against holding large gatherings in the middle of a pandemic his reelection campaigns, dropping plans to. To hold part of the GOP nominating convention in Florida next month more than four million people in the US are or have been infected with corona virus over the past several months. Brazil has the second largest number of cases in the world and new cases. There are surging as well this week. It registered a daily record of nearly sixty eight thousand cases. NPR's Philip brief says none of that is stopping Brazil's president from undermining isolation measures. Sooner or later, everyone will get the corona virus unless they hide away in a corner, says Jay Bozo Auto. He has the virus himself and his finding hiding away difficult the sixty five year old boss narrow. Drove a motorbike around the grounds of the presidential palace. where he supposed to be an isolation, he was photographed chatting with groundsman without wearing a mask. The images don't show how far apart they were Boston. Critics say this is more reckless behavior from a president who's nation has more infections than anywhere, except the US, and is averaging just over one thousand deaths a day. Flip Reeves, NPR news. We interest needle in other news. Iran's for ministers criticizing the US. US after an Iranian airliner was intercepted by US fighter jet over Syria. We have more from not a home. See in Beirut. Passengers aboard an Iran commercial were alarmed when their be root bound, plane plunged abruptly as it flew over Syria, video footage circulated online Iranian state news shows. Passengers onboard the Mahan Airliners Screaming. Is the plane suddenly drops? It also shows at least two fighter jet flying beside the aircraft. A US official wrote in a statement to NPR. Fighter had conducted what he called a standard visual inspection of the Iranian airliner claiming it was from a safe distance. There is a US military base in serious tunnel region where the Iranian passenger plane was in the Air Israel and the United States have long accused Mahan Air of carrying weapons for Iran backed fighters, and the airline is under US sanctions. For NPR news, another himse invaded. You're listening to NPR news. Johns Hopkins University reports more than fifteen million cases of the virus around the world since December and more than six hundred thousand deaths. The World Health Organization says if people need to empower themselves with knowledge, so they can stay healthy and keep the people around them. Say from Cova Nineteen. This from NPR's Ping Wong. At Phnom Gabrielle WHO's drew general says don't expect someone else to keep you safe. He says it's your responsibility to know the risk level and your local community every day. Do you know how many cases were reported where you live yesterday? Do you know where to find that information. Do you know how to minimize your exposure says he knows people are sick of the pandemic, but they have to stay aware to protect themselves and their friends and neighbors. Public Health experts say the key element to knowing whether it's safe to go to school or Church or visit. A nightclub is to know the rate at which the virus is spreading in that community. Ping Pong, NPR news. Anyone with a minor criminal record can still qualify to work at a bank in the. The US under a new rule, a bank regulator reportedly approved today. Reuters news service CITES officials with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in reporting that the FDIC has agreed to lift certain hiring restrictions to help financial firms develop a more diverse pool of candidates, federal law bars banks from hiring someone convicted of certain crimes unless they get a written waiver Reuters reports it. Today's rule relaxes that requirement for minor offenses like small dollar theft under thousand dollars or having a fake ID. This. Is NPR news?
The Filmmaker Who Took On Bolsonaro
"The world is changing in ways that affect your life and your business. Do you have the intelligence you need now. F P is offering insider insider with the new F insiders subscription you will get all of FPU content plus exclusive access to data driven intelligence power. Our maps that distill complex issues in depth special reports and conference calls on the biggest stories and trends get global insight. You you can bank. On subscribe to s P cited today at foreign policy dot com slash F P insider From foreign policy. I'm stairwell and this is first person this week. The Brazilian filmmaker who took on Bolsonaro throw the Brazilian documentary. The edge of democracy has been widely praised. It was even up for an Oscar this past week. The Brazilian president. Try Your boss. Narrow isn't happy about it. Fill is frigging do double fuel when the film was nominated Bolsonaro called it quote rubbish. He also said he hadn't seen it leader his son who's in politics described as director Petra Costa as a quote scumbag the documentary traces political events in Brazil in recent years including the impeachment of one president the imprisonment of another. And the rise of the far-right populist Bolsonaro. It makes the KEESA. Brazil is teetering on the verge of fascism. I fear democracy was nothing but a short lived dream documentary filmmaker Petra. Kosta began filming her country's elected leaders several years before the two thousand eighteen election brought Bolsonaro to power. She's our guest this week. Petro thanks for joining us today. Thank you your film is such an intimate intimate portrait of Brazil at the edge of democracy as the title suggests by what's particularly striking is how you describe yourself and democracy of Brazil being almost the same age. Can you tell me a little bit about what Brazil felt like when you were child was always coming out of twenty one years of dictatorship when I was a child but I did not see like the weight of what that meant. When I was growing up it was a very optimistic time because democracy was coming back and everyone was really excited about the future and and they even decided both parts of the political spectrum in Brazil to forgive and forget all the crimes committed during the dictatorship and everyone who had been enemies in the prior year's kind of started to talk again even my grandparents and my parents who had not been enemies enemies but my parents had broken away from the family for a long time and when I was born was precisely the time that they reunited but that not division re ignited in the past few years when there was economic crisis and huge polarization in society that brought back many of the ghosts from that dictatorship precisely Petra? What year were you born? eighty-three let's describe a little bit about at your family. Because your parents were leftist fighters who went underground. Tell me a little bit about their story. Yes my grandparents. They were part of the elite of the state where I'm from United is and my grandfather founded one of the major construction companies in the country. That grew a lot during the dictatorship and supported the military coup in sixty four in fear of the Communist threat. Sixty eighty four. My father went to the United States when he was like nineteen and here in New York. He fell in love with books of marks and and Krishnamurti and came back to Brazil wanting to do the revolution. My mother fell in love with him at first sight and also with Marxism so so they went underground fighting against the dictatorship and broke off from the family precisely at that time it was a brutal time for people like your parents it was. I mean many of my parents friends were killed. They were almost killed themselves. They were sent to an action action in the Amazon in the late sixties that they didn't go just because my mother was pregnant with my sister. If they had gone they would also have been killed. so yes it was very brutal and at one time your mother was actually imprisoned. Yes they were both imprisoned briefly in sixty-eight and when you say an action and the Amazon what an action was a guerilla inspired in Cuba. Very much I mean There was an idea that if Juan went to the forest one could maybe do the revolution this like the Cubans did but I think they weren't taking into account the dimension of Brazil. It's much harder for that ever ever to happen. They're the leader. The former president of Brazil Louisiana. Theo Lula da Silva who is popular known around. The world is Lula. He came out of that leftist experience as well. Not Yes while most. I mean there were many focuses of this leftist resistance in Brazil. Lula became the leader of the Workers Movement in some Paulo and actually managed to mobilize the greatest amount of people with protests with hundreds of thousands of people Union workers and those protests. Were actually the major blow to the dictatorship the dictatorship fall in the end. Well those protests collaborated with it and the economic crisis also fell upon the country the and the generals and military generals themselves decided to allow for a transition into democracy. And what that meant was that in in Congress They were allowed to vote whether people would be allowed to vote directly for president and and that happened in eighty nine in eighty nine. We had our first democratic election after more than twenty one years. Your first selection was actually the first time that Lula himself wins isn't it. Yes Asa Lula. Try Run for president. In eighty nine and loses the elite goes into panic thinking that he's radical leftists and try to plot many ways for him not to win and ninety four runs again and loses a ninety eight percents again and loses and in two thousand and two when it seemed already almost impossible bull. He decides to make packed with the elite saying that he won't Do anything that will hurt their interests and he manages to win. What did it I feel like to vote in that two thousand and two election? It was amazing. I mean I had lost hope over all that time that he would ever win and the fact that he did just I was so unbelievable and the country was really ecstatic. Everyone was in a wave of optimism and and that continued growing Until two thousand ten when he leaves office he leaves office with eighty seven percent approval rate D. Mehta ministry this free. That was so amazing with leaders protecting the Amazon for many years. Like mighty name Silva Schubert as you. Who is one of our greatest musicians positions? As the Minister of Culture it was the best ministry one could have ever thought of but what was sad. was that over time. That packed packed with the elite too hot to intensify and ended up in a government that draft less and less and had to bake more and more concessions. When you say dreamt less and less what do you mean by that? For example one of the most significant ministers he had was fighting a silver. Who was one of the greatest leaders is that protected the Amazon but as soon as I had to make concessions with the Oligarch Party PM DB he had to give more and more rights to like? Big Farmers monoculture and also. He ended up opting for kind of more capitalist way of thinking being that we did not take sustainability so much into account did huge dams in the Amazon that most of the population was against or all activists were against danced. And he might enough. Hoover left the government and that happened in many sectors like the idealism kept losing for the pragmatic concessions and yet he leaves with as you said. Eighty seven percent approval rating and his successors is almost handpicked. Tell me about her. Yeah and I mean just explain that a little bit was that in many areas that happened but in others the really wonderful things continued to happen like for example More than twenty million people rose out of misery like forty million people entered the middle class. That was so unbelievable like hunger which killed three hundred children per day stopped being an issue because of the social programs Lula and his team were able to do they managed to approve affirmative action and today more than half of the students in public universities are block. I mean that was unheard of. There would be one to black students every university. Now there's more than half so ooh silent revolution also happened. That was really what we had dreamed for. And I think that's part of his eighty seven percent approval rate and Dilma. The his successor was his chief of staff. She was kind of his right hand in his government and he chose her because she was the strong woman woman and also had an amazing past she had been a guerilla fighter she had been in prison for two years brutally tortured but had never run on for office but even with that she won. And that's Dilma rousseff you're speaking of who becomes president after Lula when she's inaugurated rated to do you have a sense of optimism. Then I did. I mean I felt so move that someone with a past that was so similar to my mother's passed actually had reached the the presidency. It felt like a true change of times. Did you grow up hearing stories of torture and imprisonment. No you know in many of my parents friends went through that but they never speak about it. It's kind of the silent trauma that no one mentions and yet in your film you introduce your mother to Dilma Elma. I do when Doma was elected. My mother made a list of twenty things they had in common. They studied in the same school. They were born in in the same city that were imprisoned in the same prison and I really wanted for these two women to meet. I knew something would come out of that encounter and after years of already trying to interview Duma finally managing to interview Dilma. I then brought my mother to meet her and that was quite moving in that meeting almost says to my mother that she actually never wanted to be president. It was not her desire. It was something that Lula made happen but not really her choice. Why did she not want to? Because she's like the most efficient chief of staff like behind the curtains kind of actor good at managing but doesn't love the camera doesn't like to be filmed at all doesn't like back to do. Small talk doesn't like to please people and that is like ninety percent. I think of the president's job which she didn't like to do. When did you begin to sense that her approval rating was slipping in two thousand thirteen? So she's elected in two thousand ten takes office in two thousand eleven and for the first two years of her mandate she has like the highest approval rate than any other president present history and then in June two thousand thirteen these protests explode kind of out of nowhere a little bit against a rise of twenty cents and the bus fare in a few weeks these protests that had begun for progressive reasons actually are kind of hijacked by a new far far right that is born out of social media precisely during those weeks and the National Brazilian media also manages to portrayed for trade these protests as if they were against the government and in less than three weeks our approval rate goes from like seventy percent to thirty percent so she has a forty percent drop in her approval rate because of protests that weren't even against to begin with what were those protests. What did they feel? I can the streets. Did you feel them walk inch day. where the in each city were they particular cities they were all over the country? I mean most massively in some pollen real but it was our first protests protests that were organized and led by social media so suddenly they could happen at the same time in the entire country. I mean in the eighties would take much much longer. You know and everyone was for the first time putting their picture in the streets with a plaque written things and like it became this social media phenomenon but they were very chaotic. Like people were protesting all different types of things at the same time. They were protesting for no World World Cup for no Olympics for more health for more education against the media and because of that chaos it was easy for the far right to start to hijack the narrative and that's what they started to do in the beginning of two thousand and thirteen and continued doing until the election of Zonada because also the left had been in power for thirteen years. It was easy for the far right to show themselves as the real revolution. Dilma rousseff also angers the bankers. What happens then yes so you'd just before these protests Doma had done a move that is a hard moved of to do in Brazil we have one of the highest interest rates in the world? And that's how many of the people make money there and she reduced the interest rates and started to piss off the elite in a way that Lulu had never done. Lula was always quite managed to please. Both the working class and the elite and Doma starts to be more confrontational with the Brazilian elite and slowly that starts to lead into a revolt against her by that elite. The world is is changing in ways that affect your life and your business. Do you have the intelligence you need now. F is offering insider with the new F P the insiders subscription you'll get all of FP's content plus exclusive access to data driven intelligence. Power maps that distill complex issues as in-depth special reports and conference calls on the biggest stories and trends get global insight you can bank on subscribe to SP insider today at foreign policy. Dot Com slash F P insider the revolt against her from the elites than begin sometime after these protests she had reduced interest rates before the Protas so I think it had started before and they continue throughout the protests and then in two thousand fourteen elections take place and you have of a candidate who's called. I assume navy's running against her and he is a representative of the Brazilian elite somehow coming his grandfather had had run for president and became the first Brazilian president. After the dictatorship eighty-five it was an internal election so he was elected by the Congress and I asked her navy's from PS DB which is like a center right party in Brazil and the entire leat aligns with as soon have is against Doma for that election the entire media and a lot of these new far right kind of social media groups as well and everyone thinks that I shouldn't have is going to win. But of course Duma has the government in her hands and most of the northeast of the country that has benefited from all these social programs. And it's very tight race the race as well that had been that is highly funded by construction companies. That will will later. Be All involved in car wash operation but Doma wins that election by a very small difference like four percent and and her opponent decides not to recognize her. Victory mean the day after her election. All these far-right Social Media Group start asking Oscar ready for her impeachment and a narrative that she needs to be impeached is established. Kind of straight away so her opponent does not recognize recognize the cheese. When did exactly I mean as most political scientists right today like one of the main things you need for democracy? Chrissy to thrive is the idea that you will recognize the winner and learn how to lose and they do not do that and I assume navy's Started Movement to impeach her and they started looking for a crime that would fit into that desire and the crime they found found was that she had done what they call fiscal makeup or budget. Maneuvering which is an attempt to hide the deficit that had been done by her government because of the economic crisis. But it's not really a high crime and misdemeanor. It's something that was very hard for anyone to understand what that actually was. It took took months for me to understand. Only when I entered into Congress and started interviewing all the lawyers and congressman that I understood and most dury's have come to the conclusion that it's not a high crime and misdemeanor that would rise to the level of an impeachable crime. When is that impeachment process began in March March two thousand and sixteen which is precisely when I start filming? And there's a moment in that filming where you ask various congressman about her and one of them says that she didn't know how to work them room. Well she didn't get enough hugs. Yes that was. What so many congressman told me that Dilma didn't give give them attention that she didn't give him hugs that she didn't visit them that to Johnson telegrams to thank them for how they were voting and was not inviting them to the presidential palace? We're not taking pictures with him. I mean that's one of the main reasons why they voted for impeachment. But there was another graver graver reason that only became clear months later. which was that car wash operation? which was the greatest corruption investigation in Brazil's missiles history that uncovered a systemic corruption? which is private construction? Companies had organized a payback system with political political parties to finance elections. And that had been going on since the sixties in Brazil but had never been uncovered and car car wash operation manage to finally uncover that and the entire political system in Brazil became exposed and they managed to start start for the first time putting these businessmen and politicians in jail. So you had owners and presidents of these major construction companies. Going to prison isn't as well as several politicians so as soon as these politicians start going to jail all congressman in Brasilia. Go desperate because they're elections had all been financed through description system so they all could go to jail as soon as they lose their mandate and so they go into despair and that I think because the main reason why they plot domas impeachment because Doma was not stopping the operation from happening and experience one more time. The impeachment itself was around sort of fudging. The books is something that is quite complicated but explain it one more time. And how did you come to understand it. Yes us. The president has more or less under her control several like public banks and they can put money from one and into the other so what she did was. She took money from one of those banks and put into the government's account to hide the deficit to pretend before the election that the government was not in the bad shape that it actually was. She's just sort of moving money around between accounts to make one account has more in it than it does. If you're exactly exactly okay and as the impeachment process unfolds your. They're filming everything. Yes so we manage to get into the Congress and and film the entire impeachment trial like from the lower house until the Senate All the conversations all the testimonials heels all the speeches from the lawyers on both sides and it is quite impressive because it was so clear to me how much of a theater it all was was all the parties knew who they were going to vote much before the process ever started to. What degree do you think misogyny played a role in nine impeachment process? Oh it was a huge role in so many of the moments that I was able to film it felt like this Hort of white men. Just reclaim me a space. That they thought had always belonged to them and they could not hide the Oh four and the ecstasy in their faces in that taking back. I mean it felt kind of like a French revolution and reverse. What did it feel like for you being in that space filming those man? Tell me that you for you. It was despairing it it was crazy because every single moment like every vote that they one would have as a soundtrack fireworks today when I hear fireworks. I get a bit traumatized. Because they really almost a distantly celebrating Celebrating that reclaim of power. I don't know I thought naively that. History would progress slowly. But surely like that these these secular inequalities that had shaped so much presenting history as well as the history of the United States. We're both countries shaped by slavery and indigenous indigenous genocide that we would be able to continuously reversed those inequalities and suddenly the reverse was opening like we were going collect more than fifty years. There's an incredible moment in the back of a car where you're sitting with the Dhamma. And she says that she feels like Josef k the character and Kafka yes yes because it was hard to understand what crimes she was accused of just as Joseph K And also also there's a line and Joseph K that I think she also identified with the judgment doesn't take place in the trial room. It takes place in the corridors in the houses of the judges. And that's where they decide. That's where all the decision is made. And what characterizes a good lawyer call so rights is his contacts with the judges. It's not his ability to interpret the law and the contact with judges actually goes into the next phase of your film which is when car wash continues. Sergio Mora the prosecutor brings in Lulu himself and as as prosecutor he ends up becoming trial. Judge but Lula himself is implicated in car wash. What does he implicated for? That was also something very hard understand but the accusation was that Lula had accepted an apartment in exchange for favors however what became clear the further. We investigated was that Lula visited that apartment. Once did not have the key into that apartment. Never slept in. The apartment never truly accepted the apartment. He was offered it but it was never clear if he was accepting it or not and based based on the fact that he had visited that apartment even though there was no other evidence that the apartment was really his. They convicted him to do I nine than twelve years in prison. You're there with Lula when he receives that sentence and he tries to turn himself tough and what happens. It was the most dramatic moment of the three years where we filmed. I was actually on my way to Rio from some follows in the airport. Ready to get into the plane when I get a message in my phone like an alert from like the headline of newspaper saying that Lula had been convicted and mortar had ordered his prison. So I stop. I don't enter into the plane. I lose my flight. I start writing to everyone. I discovered that Liz on his way to who though union where he started his career and they eighty so I get a taxi and go there and managed to get into the building my crew meets with the equipment and we start filming and one way. See we're kind of kidnapped It felt like being kidnapped three days inside this building where Lula was kind of in custody because if he left would be in prison so he couldn't leave the union and the entire country. I was looking at the union through. There were helicopters all over filming and from inside we watch from the TV all these helicopter filming the building and there was so much tension because look didn't know For three days he didn't know if he was going to give himself into prison. Or if if you would resist east. And finally he decides to give himself in to abide by the rule of law and he says that to the crowd and the crowd starts crying and when he leaves the building everyone surrounds the building and holds the gate to prevent him from leaving. In that moment. What did you think the future looks like for Brazil with so many people trying to prevent Lula from turning himself in and one half the country supporting the the imprisonment of a former president? It was the culmination of this three years of kind of somehow type civil war between the two sides of society and and their side had one and I now use the sentence in the film. I say use the Warren buffet quote. That says yes. There's class warfare and our class. The rich class is winning. And that's what became clear that moment moment so Lulu was actually running a gun for president after the impeachment of Doma rousseff and he is well ahead in the polls and then his imprisonment imprisonment keeps him from running so correct. Yes so Lula was very well ahead. In the polls he is imprisoned by the judge that oversees car while operation orders his imprisonment and with that he's not allowed to run for president president and both Naidoo who was a congressman that was kind of obscure in Congress and became known known for defending kind of homophobic misogynistic anti-indigenous racist comments becomes a candidate handed it on starts growing a lot because he is charismatic in a way similar but different to Lula and many people that what were going to vote for Lulu decide to vote for both on auto most renowned winds and the first thing he does after he wins is to announce that his his minister of Justice is going to be more precisely the judge that put Lula in prison Petrie. Your film has has been criticized. By the current government yes after the nomination to the Oscars Boleslaw Naidoo said that our film was a fiction and then the reporters asked but have you seen it and he said no but it's crap and his secretary of culture also said that that the film should being the category of fiction and fantasy and the strange thing was that four days after that that same secretary of culture. Plagiarize Gobbles Hitler's Minister of propaganda in a speech and wh and in that speech Hitler's favorite opera is playing in the background. That Secretary of cultures five the next day after the embassy of Israel and Germany ask for his dismissal but it just reveals so much of the DNA a of the government put your. How else has your son been received outside of the government in Brazil how how people received it? It's been wonderful. I mean the. The film was the second most watched documentary on net flicks and two thousand and nineteen which really surpassed all our expectations speculations. And there's like one tweet every few minutes about the film and it has shaped a lot of the conversations and I they have had thousands of messages people say like I'm so sorry. I supported the impeachment and new film made me reflect on how wrong it was. or or how brainwashed I was people that say hadn't been speaking to my best friend for years and after seeing your film. We finally came back together feeling empathy for our different political visions so it has created dialogue between the two political sides that identify with the Division as an inside my own family and with the trauma as well that I exposed in the film political grief. The I tell the first person which I think so. Many Brazilians felt felt regardless of their political identifications. Better thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you that was documentary. Filmmaker Petra tre Kosta her film the edge of Democracy was nominated for an Oscar. First person is produced by me. 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The Late Edition review
"In this special review edition of the late edition monaco's editors and correspondents look back at twenty twenty. At some of the news stories. You may have missed during the past twelve months. We'll delve into the political friendship between outgoing. Us president donald trump and his brazilian counterpart giant bolsonaro. Taiwan soft power blossomed. In twenty twenty willis y and we'll review some of the brighton. You stories from the world's of books and magazines all ahead here on this special edition of late edition here on monocle twenty four. Hello that a very warm. Welcome t to this special edition of the late edition hero monocle twenty four on this christmas day. I'm thomas lewis here in toronto and joining us in full festive cheer. I hope from dory highs in london a monocle twenty four fernando gustavus chicago and page reynolds page fernando. Merry christmas to you both. Merry christmas dome was not how merry christmas tomas from across the atlantic on an adult league. Xiaowen to you both to just to speak in my mother tongue that whilst let's sort of set this program are two little. Bit thrive listeners. Shall we. I like to think that page finan does a bit of a sort of secret santer of news that we set up for each other that i asked you both. Get your hands into this figurative hats of news for this christmas day and to pick out your stories for the year patriots with you. How tricky task was not given. Just how enormous news year twenty twenty has been for all of us. Well it wasn't easy. And i think when we first started trying exchange some ideas that became a little bit of power and i think it's been such a big year for news but it's also been a year where it's sort of been the same story all of the time and you kind of you get lost in what month. Actually anything really happened. But i think we dug back in the treasure troves of monocle. Twenty four and we've got a few a few good is coming up. I mean and thankfully we will always have coach. You know we always have you know good music good films good tv and thankfully we had a little bit of that During lockdown until he was nice. I mean because the world was in such a state. I remember back in march. Everybody was so anxious was very difficult times but then throughout the months we got kind of snippets of kind of good news here and there. You know a country that was doing very well in the in the way they're handling covert or perhaps not a country but a city or particular leader So yeah we. We tried to look at the brighter side of things. Well fernando as we dip hands into the secret. Santa hat of new stories. Gone by this special edition of the late edition. It was you put your hand in first and we'll begin with a political friendship that blossomed this this year between two presidents. us president donald. Trump and brazil's president giant boss narrow. I'm we've discussed on several occasions here on the late edition over the past year. The nuances of this apparent political friendship just starts us off if you could with how deep in your mind. This relationship has run this year. And do you think that. Donald trump's defeat in november's presidential election potentially marks the beginning of a of a long goodbye of sorts of the both the relationship in its way but also the the populism specific to each country here but the became sort of shorthand for both donald trump and joss narrow stood for well first of all. The relationship of both eighties is very close. And i'm not. And i do mean it. Commercially or financially for both countries is just that they're both very similar the way they think you know the way they speak and of course edible so now do you know was delighted to have a partner such as trump and. That's why tomas do remember of when they were in a in a meeting. I forgot exactly where he was and think tonight or kind of slipped. I love you kind of an accident but it's true. I mean a- and i can feel that and in fact brazil with still. It's christmas day was stupid and congratulate. Joe biden completely related on the topic. Because i think Probably both think he is going to be Kind of cheating with trump. If i may stay home this forms but yeah at the same time to almost sure a very good friendship between both but very bad year for both of them for trump. of course he lost the election. You know there's nothing worse than that. But for both sonar always is a much weaker president now at the beginning of the year you know. Apparently even at the beginning of the pandemic brazilians were not blaming him directly but now after the local elections after so many deaths and so many kind of sad news actually in the country most of the candidate supported the bible scenario lost And there's lot of kind of pulling political parties kind of rearranging themselves for two thousand twenty two and is going to be very difficult for him to be reelected. So if i may say almost perhaps the end of populism in the americas or not the end the beginning of the and will in the days following election day in the united states we spoke to the professor of american literature at the university of london in the uk. Sarah churchwell you have this current translation of donald trump's potency to those who voted for him and i just wanted just to hear it again to see phenomena how much of it informs the dynamics perhaps author relationship you just outlined i between bolsonaro and trump. Let's hear it. Somebody described as the aid of the united states and he really kind of is it of the united states. You know that. This kind of radical individualism and this libertarian strain. That runs through a lot of the country and is embedded in a lot of our notions about patriotism and some of our oldest myths and then what is effectively. A lot of chest beating the deep masculinity of our notions of individualism The patriarchate and the militarization of it. So you know the way in which the second amendment has become weaponized literally and figuratively and turned into this defense of militia and people just using guns to enforce their personal desires opinions. All of that has been there for a long time. But it wasn't legitimized. Sarah churchwell speaking to us monocle. Twenty four shortly after election day in the united states and under listening to sarah's characterization of what's don trump churned up among those people who voted for him in the united states do you think that's a set of characteristics that can be applied to giant boston narrow in brazil to. Yes if sarah was talking about. Scenarios is identical Individual individualism patriotism militarism guns. You know they're very similar. It's so interesting. I always say the only difference between them is that in the. Us trump. he belongs to the republican party. Which is a huge party and both out of the moment doesn't have a political party because brazil have actually more than thirty political parties. Our political system is completely different but in terms of character. Oh my god extremely similar. I'm page just to bring you in here for final thoughts on this. Financial a little earlier characterized. The end of this. Year is almost the beginning of the end. A long goodbye of sorts. The kind of populism at donald trump and jared about so naro represent for so many people in their respective corners of the world was struck. Me about this year is that you know there's been plenty of bad news Justifiably reported in many corners of the world throughout this year. But there's also been some really bright and heartening stories of how people's altruism has really sean through in many occasions through a challenging time. I think it's interesting when you contrast that with sort of political tribalism as well which is also been on full display. I mean if you look at donald trump's performance. In the election you know smoothing seventy million. People did vote for him which makes him. The second most voted for candidates. I believe in the history of presidential elections in the us. I just wondered if you had an idea of how we reconcile those things. The idea that a challenging year has brought many of us perhaps closer together than we were before. But it's also made many others us more entrenched in beliefs in our corners of whatever spectrum politically or otherwise that we feel where a member of in whatever corner of the world we are. I think yes. We've been brought together by this pandemic but i also think the political divisions run a lot deeper than that and there they go back a long way that very historic and. I think that we really need. We need leadership. Actually i think the moment we need people like donald trump. hopefully a president like biden. Who is able to see that Kind of facilitating conversations. Instead of heated arguments is something that we really need to focus on whether that's through institutions whether that's top down whether that's kind of going into communities there's going to be some kind of push to get us back into a room where we can have discourse the that makes sense and that's kind of constructive and not destructive while next here on this special review addition of the late edition. Let's turn our attention to taiwan. In may taiwan's foreign minister spoke to us about how taiwan's semi-autonomous government was charting. Its course through the waters obvious. Relationship with beijing. Here is taiwan's foreign minister. Joseph wu who spoke to us a little earlier this year we try to do things out of our goodwill to other countries or two individuals who are being persecuted or being damaged by the coronavirus outbreak. We think it is the right thing taiwan to be able to do that. We are not doing it because of china. If you look at the american officials description of taiwan they described taiwan asset democratic success. Story a reliable pop the and a forceful good in the world in we think we deserve that description because our democracy is very successful we want to share time wants experience of democratisation with other countries. We want to support those people who are fighting for their own freedom of fighting for democracy. Joseph wu taiwan's foreign minister there speaking to monaco little earlier this year. Page taiwan's fortunes. This year was a story that you've been tracking for us and coach. You arrive through many stages. This from uncles newsroom. In london was struck. You most listening to joseph there about tie. What taiwan's done during this past year that other governments perhaps could could do well and taking notre vastly look to the beginning of a new year. I think what what's happened in in taiwan is the. They've moved very quickly very effectively and they've also moved in a very transparent way and in a way whether sort of That the clarity in the decision making but also in a very much public facing way. has really improve the situation. I think there's been so much trust in the government And i think that's what we've really been lacking in europe a lot of the time Particularly what they've done in. The kind of sphere of disinformation has been really interesting that digital minister audrey tying Has had this push. She's khuda huma over room so whenever some kind of dissipation would appear on social media. What the Government would do that kind of digital ministries which are brilliant stronger. Taiwan that's important to note is that they would counteract that with some kind of mean or some kind of Government designed information campaign. That was quite which left people thinking about that a lot more than they were thinking about this sort of various content that was being pushed by. Who knows who. And i think they've had a lot of experience as a victim of disinformation due to that proximity to china and they're sort of Quite tense relationship with china and they had a couple of interesting initiative so they have They have national health smart cards in taiwan which kind of collects data on your health and they also have a history of your prescription and they use these cards for was to russian mosque buying. They didn't have people stockpiling again. That was a problem across europe of the parts of the world. Because this card knew exactly how many mosques you had your household had And they also enable people to do mosque sharing if you had like already a large quantity of moscow able to share this with other people in the community they also used financial incentives. Quite well In terms of that quarantine You were a rewarded with twenty seven pounds day when you were in quarantine off the kind of being on a fly or having to self quarantine And you will find almost a thousand times that if you broke that So i think there were lots of kind of smart things. That taiwan did they had In order to deliver that information. Which i think is something. I can't forget to mention They had a cartoon. Shiba inu called zong chai who Delivered all of the information on kind of mosque wearing and hand washing. And again i think using something this quite friendly Using something that's memorable that's going to start a conversation that was really clever and tons of of government communications so a lot to learn. I think from taiwan on fernando. I think that character that page closed on that also caught your eye among the hats taiwan's maybe softer exports this year. It's been quite a rich year for its cultural treats among them. Are this track. We're going to hear a little bit of a belief. Let's hear it nine one one that fernando de believe made it into one of your stories global counts on the briefing hero monocle twenty four this yet tell us while i about that track but also a little more. Perhaps about what other cultural treats from. Taiwan caught your eye this year. Well i absolutely love this. Track is nine one one and and you know they. They identified themselves as a hip hop group. I mean perhaps that's my kind of hip hop way but there's lot of touches of euro dance to eat as well and the taiwanese charts was a delight. But thomas was not only music actually. I was very impressed about the. You know the film outtake as well One of the biggest hits at the taiwanese box office and you know they are actually doing well at the box office at the moment because you know they did so well with covert that their cinema are now open. You know like a couple of other countries. There's a filming particularly broke records at the box office and it was the first kind of lgbt blockbuster as well the film's call your name engraved. Hereon and is interesting that again. Taiwan is one of the few countries in the region that has approved a gay marriage and people are flocking are going to the cinemas to watch kind of this big blockbuster set in the eighties. You know. I haven't actually seen the film wasn't released here in uk but apparently it's quite a sad story as well telling how how. How was your life if you were gay into one back in the eighties as well so quite interesting. Good hip hop. Good hip hop good blockbusters and she but you know in their covid nineteen compaign. I mean perfect year for them. What's not to love. Well finally here. On christmas day edition of the late edition. I'm sure many of us had some goodies imprint. In christmas stockings this year page like many other sectors is the story of mixed fortunes for prince actors. Be books or magazines this year. The reports that sales in bookshops june first lock down in the uk for example in many cases. I know that there was a similar story. Anecdotally speaking here in canada as well and in the uk a book selling platform bookshop dot org was launched and little earlier than sheduled both to cater to some of that demand but also to allow independent bookshops to counter. The likes of amazon to start with you here. We're not to here clip from the author of one of your favorite novels that you read this year. So you told us before we came to add. Perhaps you could start by giving us a sketch of the book publishing sector. This past year was the stories that have caught your eye. yeah. I think a lot of bookshops. They showed such agility through this time in the midst of the crisis in around april We spoke with sarah mcnally of of mcnally jackson and independent bookstores in new york and look the prognosis wasn't great You know she was based in new york. They were facing a lot of Restrictions or a real serious case. I suppose all corona virus But she was really bullish about about getting through it. She was committed to getting books to people who needed them She's saying how she was basically spending her car back and forth from the post office making sure orders getting sent out. A lot of the booksellers were doing book recommendations over the phone And she was saying that the response from her from her customers was so amazing from people that have been going to bookshops over the year. They've been really willing to to help out. And they really wanted to support their the local bookshops. And i think you know we've had a similar conversation on on the late edition before about this year. How people are feeling a lot more connected with their communities and feeding kind of giving back or that. They've had a relationship with a local shopowner. I mean i. I live in impact them in south london. I've had a relationship with the that run right books an independent bookshop and kind of started up a kind of a a real relationship that i have out lost the pandemic of book recommendations and the whole house that i live with Which spins which is being really nice when this here. A part of the conversation. That britt bennett hats on monocle on culturally this year. She's the author of the vanishing. Half he or she is thought originally. I was just going to be a story of these two sisters. I thought i'd be like one. Half of the book would be one sister. The other half of the other sister in that would kind of be that and then of course. If as you know you're reading a novel you become interested. And i mean at least for me i become interested in so many of the other characters that populate the world twins hold such a special place in a lot of belief systems whether some cultures twins are considered lucky some cultures. They're considered very unlucky and that was something that became interesting to me is i was. I was kind of writing towards myth. And i think a few different ways in this book so that was something that i thought about. I think as far as how the twins turned out. I just didn't want them to feel to polar opposite where it felt a little cute. Were you know one is this way and one is the complete opposite way of that. I wanted them to feel like these two girls who grow up together who are so inseparably close but then eventually make these choices that lead them onto their various. Pat's life i was interested. I think in that time period because it was a moment of change in a lot of different ways. Raise you know gender sexuality. All of these sort of scripts and expectations were being challenged in ways that are continuing to be felt now than at the author of the vanishing half speaking to robert bound for monocle twenty four little earlier this year Phenomena to bring you in here and twist the angle of the print spotlight just a fraction to look at magazine publishing this year. You host the stock kiro monocle. Twenty four was the year. Broadly speaking been like four magazine makers around the world from your vantage point. Well thomas it some denial. That is being hard. You know for many publishers. And editors every single interview we kind of had to mention over and how they've reacted to it but one interesting thing is first of all in people were still looking for print and has page was saying sure a lot of shops. You know a lot of problems with many shops. But i think the book industry particularly did actually well overall Even independent bookstores You know th. They changed their format even if they didn't sell online before now they do so. There's been a few changes and talking about creativity. I i lo- for example empire magazine magazine advising semi kid and is a film magazine. You know usually they have an exclusive interview with the latest hollywood star and the latest production. But of course for a few months there was no productions being filmed so they had to be creative so one issue that was a massive profile. Kind of an indepth look at gramling to the new batch which filled you know which used to love as a kid. And i love that and i wonder if they would have that article on normal times. Where probably probably wouldn't be space for it so it was nice to see this kind of creativity happening. I mean even here a monocle. Twenty four as you say. Sometimes we had to find stories outside kind of covert bubble and overall thomas new magazines as well. I thought he would be. You know atari. We wouldn't see new launches this year but not only here a monarch with our own contract but You know new magazine such as A to zad the dortch land magazine and many others. I have to say so You know i again Always trying to look at the positive side of things fingerprint in a will survive. It's being you know so damaging so many new shops had closed down. We're still here. And again a lot of editors using their creativity. Finally the two of you as we draw this christmas day edition of the late edition to a close. We spent the past twenty minutes or so looking back over the past year so to put you both on the spot briefly. Is there a story or event pandemic permitting. Of course this offering each little ray of light as we look ahead to twenty twenty one fernando. Let's start with you well. I'm sure you thought it was going to say revision. Well besides that i. I am missing the olympics like crazy. Tomas was very much missed This summer and i know it will happen in tokyo very excited about that. It's you know one of the few times where actually interested in sport. I miss seeing those beautiful swimmers. Swimming disc throwers Even the opening ceremony. Actually you know it it it. It's it's always a highlight for me when there's an olympics on page what about. You might say revision that forgiven. The fernando served as a bit of a curveball. laughing is highlight of twenty one. I'm you know. I i am looking forward to your vision and my my love for for music is definitely something. I'm hoping i can bring to a live venue of sorts next year. I'm really looking forward to the return of music festivals. More emily on. I was meant to be at primavera in in basilan in. May i think which was definitely an absolute and they they. At the moment they tentatively do have That june festival. Up and running. June twenty twenty one. So i would. I would love to be back there. I had such a fantastic festival. It's really just as much about Enjoying the city kind of gigs over in different venues as well as being a at the sort of festival venue itself and such an amazing array of artists loads of of really great spanish artists as well. So i'm really hoping i can. I can make it that or at least to some some form of of live music while page reynolds and fernando goes to check out that is all we have time for for this special edition of the late edition. It's been an absolute treat to spend a little portion of christmas day with you both a very merry christmas to the two of you a big thanks to sam impey. Who is studio manager today. The late edition returns very soon. If an eye for me. Thomas lewis here in toronto. Thank you very much for listening and a very merry christmas.
Tuesday 21 September
"You're listening to the monocle daily. I pass on the twenty first of september. Twenty twenty one on monocle twenty four. The monocle daily is brought to you in association with allience. The un general assembly convenes though one attendee is struggling to find. Dinner should government bailout struggling energy companies and or struggling journalists and remembering mexico nineteen seventy the most picturesque of world cups. I'm andrew mullah. The monocle daily association with allience starts now hello and welcome to the monocle daily coming from our studios sierra kadoorie house in london. i'm andrew. My guests daniele pellett and yossi macro bug will be here to discuss all the day's big stories. That's coming up right here on the monocle. Daily in association with allience on multiple. Twenty four this is the multiple daily. I'm andrew miller. I'm joined today by daniele. Pellet managing editor of the institute for war and peace reporting and yossi mickelberg associate fellow with middle east and north africa program. At chatham house hello to you both We will be discussing a story later in the show. Which does pertain to pizzas. So i wanted to cunningly foreshadow that without designated light introductory banter section here at the start of the program. I thought i would throw the pineapple question open to the floor pineapple on pizza. Do you have any strong opinions on this. Either way. daniele strong opinion in that. I don't care you strongly. Don't care if some pineapple on a pizza. And i was hungry. I would eat it if they didn't. I would not miss it. Okay that's go-. I can't really work with this whole so that's a that's a cowardly way bet. Daniele has has placed. The you'll see. Did you have a strong deeply-held view on pineapple on pizza very story. It's just plainly hong. Don't mix between the two. I prefer by pineapple in an ice cream with an ice cream but not on a pizza this lean just plain wrong done to that. My survival chances. Zombie apocalypse a much higher. I think of the fussy eaters there are in this room. Well this this this has set the tone for the customer thrust from here on. But let's start with the seventy six session of the united nations general assembly which kicked off today in new york which probably hurt joe biden. Did his first turn as us. President before the thing and went big on the necessity for global cooperation at turning point in history et cetera. Which on the one hand is about the most predictable thing. An occupant of his office can possibly say it such a moment but on the other hand is a significant and or reassuring. Shift in tone from the previous bloke. Daniela are you excited. Agog or as indifferent as you are re pineapple on pizza to see the un general assembly back in business well eight continuous theme. Why rolls around every year. It's quite nice to see them Doing some stuff in person. It's all a bit of Political theater i would have been quite excited to see biden's w Had not been for the events of the last few months in afghanistan which is rather taken the gloss of anything that he might achieve going forward and his presidency and now i'm just wondering what the he will actually stay awake for the whole The whole proceedings which is not particularly interesting. It's again clearly. The usual markers of that's going to be overshadowed by corona virus life afganistan by by climate change by this new supposed cold war between the us and china which really isn't that new Ongoing conflict and the usual prepared statements in an meets and greets really on. That thought. yossi this this idea. That biden might have a bit of bridge building to do Following recent events he does of course have going for him in that regard that he is not donald trump Whose presence these conclaves used to rather bewilder and or amuse The other participants. But we'll have to make some effort to get back on side with not necessarily america's traditional enemies but america's traditional allies many of whom miffed about afghanistan And all this new thing called orcas. And i think this is one of the talks about unity in the world but at the same time. Build a new partnership which is all about the backyard of china so there are many contradiction in by startegy which some of them one can understand. Because it's it's it's complex to be the president of the most powerful country in the world. You need to juggle a lot of those. But having said i think it's important that it takes place after one virtually and then not being. Tom is always an advantage. Because you in a way you know what you're going to get from biden it's is not going to elliott too many people who will say things that you expect. Climate change should united's china should divide as iran. We should make sure it doesn't. It doesn't have nuclear so it's really create some some sanity more civility in the united nations. That you do not have when visit basically anywhere but the thing also to bring the world together around the recovery postponed dynamic. We are just before the cop. Twenty six it's around the corner. So how can you create. Actually the critical mass that can deal with it seriously. And and also specifically to the us allies whether it's nato gop in union. You know better about it in australia. Which became a major strategic place. Donny dons the united nations. Still the united nations or other. The united states still fulfill that role of default leader of absolutely everything you know. Is it still the case that the rest of the will doesn't really get. Its act together collectively unless the united states leads it. The merckel is leaving the scene for the puts the emphasis back home. On washington i think is important to have strong democratic power in the world and And so on. But you know. I wish i could be as excited as yossi about biden That he's not trump which the the The excitement of that has long ago worn off. I think he has very little credibility. Maybe i'm too focused on what happened in afghanistan. But that was that's just an pulling and cataclysmic a foreign policy failure and so it's hard to see how he's going to have gravitas Talking about interventional talking about power to keep our allies the The the map shifted during the trump errors. Well america is no longer Playing the same kind of role that it was and you know. The un as well is a is slightly. Biogas format for these kinds of these kinds of grandstanding justice. Because it's you know it doesn't do as it's a former former for the politics it's a forum but change doesn't actually happen The un general assembly. Just a quick thought on that the yossi does the. Un actually serve a practical as well as a symbolic purpose. Which is not to say. There is no symbolic well. There is no value in having some sort of symbolic forum at which the world leaders gathered at least pretend to engage with each other. Does it actually accomplish anything much beyond that anymore. Symbolism as you say plays a very important role in diplomacy and international affairs. But it's not enough in but it's the rest issues there because the decisions are taking in the security council and well they don't take place in the security council because of the structure self. It's when one count or five countries a veto. It's enough for one of them to stop the rest of the world for operating in a certain way. And that's what the united nations need urgently acutely reforms but it doesn't happen because the same countries that will lose some of their power will block this reform and as long as this is not resolved. I think we'll see. I agree with the near. Its became more a grandstanding. But there is an element. Grunstein can be sometimes important. As where i think the un does really well is kind of dull stuff culture and how on collecting statistics. That's that's not that's great. I think we expect the un to be the major The goodies in the world and they managed to solve all the problems and stop the wars. Not so good at that. But that's for instance. The league of nation failed in their the grounded. The off will do wilson and that's the un was supposed to be an improvement of the league of nations. It is improvement but foul for what we like it to be. Well let us now. Shift from the foreign. To the domestic and the uk's government has hastened to reassure that it is alarmist and misguided to begin talking about gas shortages. So we should probably start talking about gas shortages even more alarmingly business secretary. Quasi quoting has said that there is no question of lights. Going out. Homes languishing on heated. A three day working week. Although for reference squatting was also one of those people who said brexit would be both easy and beneficial but a gas crunch is looming energy and food bills will rise and energy supplies. May well go bust. The question posed is at what point should a government step in daniel. Is there an argument that the market cannot always be relied upon to sort these things out for itself which was the great argument behind privatizing Things like energy in the first place. It's definitely an argument for that. But i think people are pressure. This is very much Judge john webb wherever the political spectrum. They full those in the left. Might see what capitalism is bad. Let's not bring you into a national utilities. And those in the right. What say are the mark is The market is king and it can solve all the problems and although the only female in this studio i would say that as a classic century stat would like to see them. it'll crown. it works for some things. it doesn't work it doesn't work fathers especially when there's a crisis like this and it does to be a looming crisis yet another looming crisis It's it's inconceivable. The government doesn't step it and that's what they need to do In the short term in the moments him. That's that's that's a different question in the longer term government to space to manage the economy and theoretically if they do about job we vote them out. That doesn't always happen indeed. not you'll see. There is a weird thing demonstrated here. Isn't there there are some industries which are clean. Dove exempted to a large extent from A rigorous free market approach because the government can't let them fail because if the government does let them fail then the entire social contract will break down and the government overseeing all that will likely get slung out at the next election and quite rightly we saw this Back in two thousand eight two thousand nine when government among many around the world spent absolute fortunes of our money in order to bailout. A bunch of crooked. Greedy and irresponsible bank is because they did understand that the alternative to that was money not coming out of cash machines. At which point everything would go a bit not as it would if everybody's lights went off in the heating didn't come on and the same scenario is repeating itself and at the end of the day we should be owners of these banks because we paid for it from our taxes so there is a model there that the too big to fail and this company whether it's bango utilities or transport there is free market as long as they make money. As long as it's richard cheryl does the mini the failing the fella on account then someone as need to bail them out so they can lose now. Small businesses can't do it. Private spoke individuals can because they will go bunko but utilities because they have the power to tell because they know what's the electoral power but for instance talking about power. If you want have gaas natural gas in the middle of a cold winter and when the minister talks about all lights will stay on and everyone will be able to hit the. This is not correct because prices would go up. The government is not going to regulate the prices because this against what they believe believing and many people probably will sit in the dark and in the cold and the most vulnerable will end like this while they'll cutting the universal can benefits and this is the danger they should guarantee that the most vulnerable. We'd be protected and yes they can fail. But then ensuring regulate the prices and part of this utilities not inflame market environment they actually created segregated monopolies removing danica. you Calmed all by the reassurances of the government that this is just a short term problem. It won't be that bad really. It'll all be grand. Well i'm not sure but then also at this point In twenty twenty one more quite nam and the idea of shortages of food and so on doesn't really fill me the same huge peril. It might have done a year and a half ago. It's interesting to the the way that different governments dealing with this Around europe as well. How more socialist governments like in spain taking a very different approach to to to the one we have here. I just hope that again ideological starts at the conservatives ideological stance on this is not going to get in the way of. We have long term planning to do but the short term planning the wind tone which hits after coronavirus probably another wave of delta. Which is yes he said people are going to be very is the government that says that the pandemic the covet nineteen is like flew into go after the winter so that that is true. They have said a number of optimistic things over the last couple of years which haven't quite worked out as advertised. Y'all said just wanted to go back to that point. Daniela made earlier. That this is one of those things like actually. Now that i think of it pretty much everything else that ever happens Which people to Responsible by going. Well this just proves that i was right all along but there is already. There will be more of a human cry for the idea of energy providers and providers of other essential accoutrements to life being nationalized but is that the nostalgia of people who've forgotten what state owned energy and communications and other such monopolies world. Like because i have lived in this country long enough. That i just about remember those And they were not an advertisement for the public sector and we need to learn from those experiences because neither of them worked so how we find as daniele said earlier about also. I don't want to use the third way because this has been misused before but in a way that works it's not about renationalising eight is about regulating it. It's about when not dealing with it only when the risk but anticipate building the scenarios when happy so if a year ago also you can go you could get oil for free as long as you stole it in your checkout. You could get just just if some oil. This is not the case. this is not the case. Now that's what that's all governments for to plan ahead to build on scenarios from between oil zero price zero dollar spill pill per gallon denver. Natural gas goes up. But that's they don't do each of this issue the deal from crisis to crisis this is well the the cox of the meta We should probably advise listeners against storing oil in their backyard. Probably create more problems than it solves. You'll see mellberg and daniella pellet. Thank you both for the moment. This is the monocle daily. I will be back with more from our panel right. After this the more than one hundred and thirty years aliens has expanded its business and stretched its brand in new and innovative ways and while the world looks very different today than it did back in eighteen. Ninety one truth remains alliens. His passion for securing people's lives and giving them courage for what's ahead no matter what the world is a better place. 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Can you help to find out. Locations for production so we are not just paying for claims. We actually trying to help with the services that are required around the risks. That can emerge. And we're doing it in many many many many ways. Oliver betas theo of leeann explaining. Why with allience. You can take confidence in tomorrow. Liens behind you for what's ahead. Welcome back to the monocle daily. I'm andrew miller still with me. Our guests dunhill appellate. And you'll see mellberg. Let's stick with the theme of government. Bailing out entities left economically woebegone by prevailing circumstances. But move on. From providers of such relative freezes food and energy to something that really matters e freelance journalists not let it never be said that the daily has an agenda france over the next couple of years. We'll make available twenty nine point five million euros to freelance hack whose income has been dinged by the covert nineteen pandemic outrageously and you can bet i checked having a go. Betweens interview syndicated by les inrockuptibles about twenty years ago. Turns out to be insufficient qualification. daniele all jokes aside. This this is good right al. Al fellows grievance rescued by a municipal government apache. Pto jokes aside. Because i have. I would like to make But you're right. It is a serious. It is a serious issue. And i'm i'm kinda surprised. I would have thought that freelance journalists were the the bottom of the of the heat when it came to Handouts like this. But of course i'm going to be a big fan of the importance of media support and development and this works in the developed world as well as the developing. What the questions. I have though being slightly cynical occasionally occasionally cynical is how in this context yasser define a journalist. We can talk about people who are freelance content creators or people who are made living Or on social media so that would be quite That would be quite an an interesting breakdown. And i don't know whether that even comes into it and in this french system you'll see it's one of those things. It sounds like a lot of money. Twenty nine point five million euros indeed it will be if only like four people get it together to apply for them that that's that's going to be a result of for them but is is there. At what point do you start suggesting. It's not really the states problem. I think foy democracy. It's important to. I've flee journalism and i'm not all again's free journalism being part of it in coming to this. You know your your boss. A few citizen journalists later in life into into journalism and actually think having freelance so that kind of less connected on a daily basis acquitting the institution themselves create some freedom. In what what you do. And if the government is spout of democratic system supports freelancer and doing all sorts of things that maybe being part of institutions of and and having the payslip every month with hindle them from doing. It's not a bad thing again. Whether twenty nine millions is an awful lot depends how many journalists down funds but they in college and there is a mixed model of journalism that part of their work in single establishment and others actually can home planet and do different things and bring and create. New knowledge is not all bad. Is there however concern of this might Entrench the reluctance of certain meteorologists to actually play their free lenses. Yeah well this is. I mean this is This is more of a systemic problem in journalism. As well as you know how the situation in in france but here life is tough for freelance journalists and only getting tougher. And you wouldn't imagine that people would still be offered to be paid in exposure or what all tweets but yet this happens this happens. And this is one of those. Instances is great. I think because. I'm industry that. The government is stepping into support it but if talking when should the government intervene It would be better to have a more sustainable Media ecosystem and one that valued quality content as well as just the usual sort of journalism that That fuels the beast justify daniele because this is very much the area in which he work journalism around the world. Do you get any sense yet. That moving on from the idea of of furloughing temporarily disadvantaged journalists subsidizing them. Do you get the sense that the the way the media works has been changed in any particularly profound lasting way by the pandemic you sort of running across people being much more reliant on for example zoom rather than going places and talking to people. It's been actually dangerous to journalist over the last couple of years. People that there's a limited amount of reporting you can do virtually it's very useful but a large part of reporting is if not being frontline is actually talking to people and and going places but also in terms of the kinds of The sort of reporting that there is the important things it's changed dramatically. The disinformation has never been The kind of peak that it that it is now and journalists is front line of of combating them and also the in the economic downturn downtown media is not necessarily in the In from line So this is certainly. This is a huge impact on journalism everywhere around the world. You'll see what have we might have that same question. I guess because you would have hoped that this would have been a moment at which people Reimbursed and rediscovered all over again actually properly reported journalism and reliable information and so forth but there does seem to be not small cohort of people who have gone ever further out of their way defined unreliable information and i think this let's not conflict between what endemic the to journalism and what social media Did to journalism. And i think freelancing as such doesn't enter win it's probably the resume but as long as the journalist are well-trained and there is professionalism within within the field within the sector. This is the most important thing obviously with social media when there was so much fake news unreliable reliable information and we know that the way that also an i happen to teach calls in court in in in media and communication is in different from the past is how you decipher how you differentiate between reliable information about critical reading in the confirmation that is fake which is so much so actually win in to reinforce the professionalism and this is a profession generally msrp profession. So it's it's have almost more responsibility than ever in history when it comes to journalism well returning to the un general assembly and here is where. The cinta light scintillating pizza banter at the top of the show will make sense. Lis- now here at four new york city's restaurateurs who have demonstrated that the jab new service rules will brook no exemptions not even turns up president julia bolsonaro of brazil. Bolsonaro has thus far ostentatiously refused to take ovid nineteen vaccine and perhaps who knows thereby sets an example to his nation which has now lost at least six hundred thousand people to the virus that he has been forced to hastily scoffed takeaway. Pizza on the sidewalk is perhaps not appropriate comic retribution. But it's something here. First of all is penny able dana. International affairs commissioner for new york city explaining the city's policy and its dealings with the international community. We have that citywide policy called kita nyc and this requires due to show your vaccination card to be able to enjoy any sort of indoor entertainment. And so this was the attitude we also took in terms of working with the us mission to the un and the president of the general assembly and the secretariat to ensuring that vaccinations are at the heart of how people navigate. Not only go. But how do you navigate new york city. While they're here it is absolutely you know. Complicated is not the easiest thing but it is something that we have had an extreme amount of support from member states from the president of the general assembly. And so we are looking forward to the un and that community enforcing it but that is something that is very important in new york city is they are here. Vaccinated texted masking socially distancing where they can to ensure the utmost safety for new yorkers daniele. She she has put it extremely tactfully. There as is her job that basically boils down to the great sort of new york. Ish don't care who you are no shirt no surface absolutely absolutely and although an e. uk. I really not sure about this kind of vaccine passports facts as to services because i think public health issues it's much better to persuade and Educate rather than compel In this case. I couldn't we have so basically you're doing that thing. Thinking the rules should be adjusted in terms of who they're going to inconvenience and it generally. I'm all for fair and free treatment. Five really think. Mr boston at this coming. He did have it coming. You'll see there's no doubt about that but the trouble is this is where. Unfortunately it's very hard to win with the likes of president. Bolsonaro is that you know the the photo of him being scoffing. Pizza on the solid walk has of course being amplified by his own crowd. This is actually going to play massively well for him among his base. Isn't it like. I went to new york city and those fancy pants. Book learning uptown. Science believers wouldn't let me dine in the fancy pants uptown book learning restaurants. And so here. I am having to eat pizza on the sidewalk like the humble sentinel of the people that i am. Well i feel about what they feel about pineapple on a pizza. So it's it's a defensively. No i have not been able to ascertain whether in fact boss narrow did have pineapple on these a thing. We should inquire but to be honest. It's it's it shows. The kind of the the the key is is between those who believe in science and those the decide as a matter of popularity to defy science. So you know. Burnable kicked out twelve thousand medical staff cuban ones because he didn't like them just to find out. The ewing pandemic. He doesn't have enough doctors and nelson others. Because that's the way bassano so he doesn't believe that there is there. Mickey doesn't believe in vaccination and think maybe it's a lesson to be learned for him that year in some parts of new york is unwelcome. I think actually should not allowing actually to enter into the united states if in dangerous at the population because this is about survival right now and in the united states it was reported yesterday. Two thousand people died from from covering nineteen. It's it's it's a serious matter. So if this populist in the united states managed to get rid of one populist i think is necessary. Let another wants to visit danica there. Is that serious point in new york city mayor bill de blasio already Suggested this not just denying joy bolsonaro Entry to new york pizza paul's but denying entry to the united states and a member of his delegation has indeed tested positive and they are frantically trying to track down every body he might have come into contact with and and how you spend any amount of time in new york city without coming into contact with loads of people Is beyond me. Shouldn't the united states have just said to him well. Only the you demonstrate that you've been vaccinated. Oh you not coming. Talking about populism in populous that would have been an even bigger boon to his Test profile at home. So it's a bit of a a a no win situation. And i think as you said the way it's pound that with the pizza on the street incident really says quite a lot about that new york vibe and i think made the point In a way that we can relish and he will exploit just as a final thought on this your dc any end in sight to the degree to which that antibac- sentiment has started to become a political catalyst in a lot of parts of the world. I mean i bob. Ac- paid attention to this because the strategy is where. I'm from but we do not often see in australia in cities as we have seen in the last day or so in melbourne Riots of such violence. The the the police compelled launch baton rounds to try to disperse them and divided society. But it's very similar argument with climate change between those say it does exist in dozo always denied the deny climate change. I think this is really the demarcation of the of the default lines between those who think we should follow science. We should follow knowledge. And don't think that populism ignorance and yes. I look cool because i ate pizza without vaccination so i'm so clueless get i'll i'll get more support. This is exactly the battle that we ever our hands and we should. I think those who believe in science should should allow sleeves in and be ready for this fight. Don alert is Just finally on today's panel question. I know i have asked intones of rhetorically from this chair before. But how have we got to a point where we have as a species managed to turn into yet another nonsense culture war issue a completely morally indifferent force of nature like a virus. It doesn't care we haven't done this on on our end to be found and i wouldn't. I wouldn't underestimate them of deliberate disinformation misinformation around this and how much it's been used as a stabilizing force by by political actors based and successfully russia but others as well so i think people are herd animals but sounds too much like how to music but we are very very very easily influenced and this particular pandemic had has come a time when the media and social media can be exploited to this great extent. If it'd been around. Will it radically smallpox. Probably something similar would have happened. Daniele pellett and you'll see michael bug. Thank you both for joining us on the daily now. The one thousand nine hundred seventy world cup remains arguably the greatest in history. It was the first to be broadcast in color. And it was the year that brazil won with a team featuring legends such as pele jet zeno and rivelino brazilian football correspondent for reuters. Andrew downey has published a new book cold the greatest show on earth the inside story of the legendary nineteen seventy world. Cup monaco's brazilian senior correspondent fernando. Augusto pacheco asked downey about the meaning of this particular tournament. Off the field. Making seventy eight was. It was a turning point for football with an iconic world cup because it was the last world cup of the one to see the amateur arab. It was before big business big money. How invaded sport. I mean there was no major sponsors. There was no species on the chessboard. Sea lanes of the or the shirts in other words. No boots sponsors. It was though botch taped by this. Press conference as to football was still fairly innocent compared to receive today. And i think they've made factor is probably. It was the first world cup to be broadcast. Live and in color and i think the huge impact of people that were watching it because remember seed fruit both for the first time in cologne from the other side of the world. It was sunny. Golden it was the sun dredge afternoons and mexico. And i think that really really a huge of barco people's memories and it's nice as well that it was hosted in mexico and again brazil doing well in a way was kind of a move outside just european united states. It showed the kind of all kind of power is not owning. Sport would even mexico guest host to such events. Well it was the first world cup not to be held in by the south america or europe to be held enough medic mexico so again that was bringing food to to another part of the world that had seen it but where you know the they lived in mexico for a while on crazy new a for their own team then. The went crazy for brazil brasilia the mexicans through their weight by brazil. Even today you'll brazilian than mexicans have this real bond that was formed because of the whole team in ninety seven particularly in whether hotter. Which is brazil's home away from home. It's so true Enter one thing. That is fascinating. Boats your book coming. I just realized. Actually it's being more than fifty years said that this world cup happened so in terms of your research you manage to took so many of the players and i have to say i mean it was the right time for you to launch this book because i wonder if you waited another ten years or so. It will be even harder because a lot of those players you know. They're very hard to track difficult to speak to them. Some of them. Sorry might even be alive. Actually that's exactly true. It was a difficult book to do because when that was proposed to me when we came up with the idea being by i thought. Wow this is going to be great. I'm going to go around the world. Speaking to legends and bow brilliant time or go to italy germany and uruguay through barocco. I'll go to all these places. Ob you know. Just be great to me about a week before they realized that was happening. It was a real quick realization that it was going to be almost impossible to travel the budget. I had and also because as you see this then if of these players are still alive the ones that are still alive. Even fewer of them have a really great memory of nine hundred seventy on some of them. You know demand or ask for payment to interviewed at. I just didn't have the budget to be lots of people for for the members. So i mean i got this in two as i mean. I tried to interview as many people as that could custody. I took a lot of information from old archive searches from autobiographies from interviews fro documentaries. That hunting done all that kind of archive archive soap i used. It was very useful for the brazilian players. You know. Paleontology's written fall autobiographies. Close us a whole cds about the nineteen seventy world cup so these kinds of things would agree. How also then the pandemic humor. And even if i had wanted to travel very difficult as to what i did was i used. A bunch of researchers are going touches. Researchers and journalists in places like el salvador israel mexico belgium sweden all these places. The teams were huge teams. In one thousand. Nine hundred seventy by. It was really important to me. Not just to talk to the players of italy and west germany and brazil. Uruguay think not want to get a little bit. Motorboat these peripheral countries countries that the world cup. Or we're going to the cup for the first time perhaps the also this was a big you for their so. I got journalists. I hired journalists in. Need the fantastic job would agree help in tracking down one or two players in these countries and doing interviews for being getting so. I turned recollections players from those countries. And that's what. I was surprised. Actually the book because at the beginning you know when i saw you know the Going to be a nice beautiful. Analysts brazil's victory in everything. But i didn't realize that you you're going in debt with the other countries as well when i think for any kind of football nerd out there i mean it's fascinating because you only talk about the beautiful final between brazil city. You go even for the kind of the first round matches as well. It's a really really interesting read. Thank you It's really amazing. Today when you look back in nineteen seventy eight and realize how difficult it was for teams and a place that just bulgaria for example to do their rivals begins. They put together research dossiers other opponents for reading german newspapers. People in the foreign embassies would try and sneak into about. She's she's voiced their future opponents. Morocco played one game between qualify of ebonite sixty nine and kicking off in mexico in june nineteen seventy because the world was smaller than our football. So would exhorting because these teams didn't travel as much There was no you know you know. Fifty brazilian players of trivial league or twenty arctic. Titans and england. That didn't happen to the exchange. Just wasn't there so it was lot harder. Beats all a lot. More exotic bay was really important for me to get these other studies. Because i think you really shed labor what football was like back in fifty years ago. That was andrew down in compensation. We've commando augusta echo. Andrews book the greatest show on earth. The inside story of the legendary nineteen seventy world. Cup is out now. You can listen to the full interview on manacles. The stack this coming saturday. That is all for this edition of the monocle. Daily a big. Thanks to my panelists today. daniele pellett. And you'll see mickelberg. Today's show was produced by carlton rebelo and research by sofi. Monaghan comes out. Sound engineer was louis allen. I'm andrew millet here in london. The daily is back at the same time tomorrow. Thanks for listening.
China's Chang'e-4 probe successfully landed on the far side of the moon
"Yeah. Today provide you with indepth news and expert analysis ten the who story. The news you want to know only on today. Jonah's Chunga four probe successfully landed on the far side of the moon. UK and fronts have agreed to stab migrant patrols the English channel apple blames. China will week iphone sales. You're listening to today. News programme with a different perspective. I'm Joey ING coming up. We'll have an hour of road. News and analysis to hear this episode again or to catch up on previous episodes. You can download our podcast by searching wrote news analysis. Jonah's Chung of four pro has excessively landed on the far side of the moon. This is the first ever soft landing on this charted area, the probe also sent the world's first close shot of the moons. Farsight through the Tujia raid, set light the Chung. Oh, four is. It's better to study the mineral composition and shallow lunar surface structure of the moons farside asked what has performed low-frequency astronomical observation. It will be a key step in revealing the mysterious side of men which. Never faces the earth with more on this. We are now joined on the line by Joan fund associate professor of astronomy department of Beijing normal university and MAURICE Jones Australian space analyst inviter, welcome. Somewhat. Well, MAURICE Lestari with a very simple question. What is the far side of the moon? I think some call it the dark side. But actually, it is not dark all the time. Right. The foul side of the moon has nice day just like need side head but recall, the fos by because is the mood that never face this year. And before we could launch nice across the nursing had any idea of what the fun. I'd even looks why. So even though we've been looking at the news of the century during the Lydia, we just didn't know about the file anything about the fast food until page began. So I think it is stark knob because lack of light because it's own known are humans, perhaps was more accelaration on it. It will no longer be dark and in more. So professor, gentlemen. Yes. Professor, john. We know this Chunga Ford probe has made his first ever soft landing on the far side of the moon. How significant as those is pretty massive astronomer one of my hope is that they're going to be the working outpost on the back side of the moon where you can put Thais go plunging away from us on old noises coming from that. So now they've already done much. They've down the landing so they can't pay that on the technical difficulties. No that so tire of time. The good news. How does this spacecraft? Communicates was IRS. Well, several months before China's always launched China put a special buy into it about the stable gravitational point right above the fast side of the moon and the unification really watch. That has of used the fast side of the moon. And it also has a year is of the school that and without that specialize. There would be no way for any land on the moon indicate we live because there is no direct line of sight between the earth and the moon for radio signal traffic, so won't change the special satellite is very key. That makes mission possible. Maurice by the way. What do you make of this ignificant of the first ever solved lending on farside of moon? I think it's just I ignored. Cont-? You can study the fast side of the moon from over and it's being matched from all the sensibly they're taking photographs and somebody middle competition. But if you really want to say surface of the moon, or or another buddy aces life, you really land. Because that's the only way that you can probably investigate another. All right. Joe we know their house many robotic or human visitors to the near side of the moon over the years, for example, all six of Knossos crude Apollo missions to the lunar surface touchdown on the near side. But it seems the far side is a much tougher target for lunar exploration. Why is that? Well, first of all there's communication problem that Moore's just described you have to put that side of life that I'm in in the location that's further away from the moon and keep working properly know that and also you need to be able to make communicate properly with the list of lunar Lander. So those both are limited in size and energy output to kind of have there's a there all the problems as well on the back side of the moon. There are a lot more potholes though. The apparently the back side of the moon has been hit by more stuff from space and full of craters. So they're difficult to fund landing site. And once you find one the margin for error is more 'cause the the good spot mauling size. So you come just sort of casually glide down from your orbit the sideways and just lines wherever convenience you have to almost like prop the the. Orbit vertical straight down, and that's much more difficult. Well, MAURICE what do you see as the most difficult part of lending on the far side of the moon? I get the most difficult part. It's not so much the communications delay with the fact that the Landa estimated own decision in the final part of the landing, and the fact that the mood is very rough and it has to lookout for object, which like big boulders that could tip it. And so it's a very active. The Landa has has to make its own mind off and has to avoid object. I think that's probably the most dangerous part of the mission just finding his place to land. He this reminds of people of that famous moon speech by John F Kennedy, which used to go to the moon and do other things not because they are easy because they are hard. But we know that time this is more about the struggle for hegemony between the US and Soviet Union. Professor Joan why does China now choose to go to to go with this difficult task to explore the far side of the moon? Well. I guess part of it is the time astray capabilities and build up capabilities. I hope they're using this as an opportunity to to that that outpost I was talking about. And also the front side of the moon is in explored by other nations. I'm by China already. So you wanna go to places where there's more geologically, interesting stuff particular style. They chose geologically very interesting. And also you want to you want to pay sickly samples exploring, right? You wanna go to places where it hasn't been? Maurice? What do you think? I think that China is living many different purposes Luna program. I mean, exploration its strengths times and technology presidential the world stage and those who stage for big in the future like sending sample return mission to the moon, eventually sending Chinese Estelle this. So. There's been new single. But for why China's doing it. Well, MAURICE we know that the jungle Ford probe actually blasted off nearly a month ago on December as and it took only four days for to enter into the orbit, then why the lending take so many days. The London took a long time because they wanted to wait for the moon to be in the right one one normal length of daylight, the moon moss moss for about two weeks. And what that means is that depending on the angle of sun, you've got angles of shadow walked McRae's it. And so you want to tie a precise time to land on the moon when you have enough shadows that you can pick up rain features when you're trying to lend, but you also have enough daylight so that the Rover can operate for several days and charge battery, and then hopefully, I get enough works on for the devised balloon Anais and start off again. So I think it's all because of the angle sun the angle of the shadow and the length of of they life will have you know, after land. Joe is the join us lunar calendar actually could be consulted. When deciding the the appropriate time of lending is that really the case whether they actually use it, but probably make sense 'cause describes the lighting conditions on the moon. That's more that that's a very important thing. So full park things yet. Tell us more about these scientific research that it is going to conduct on the far side of the moon. It would it would it. You thing it has grown penetrating radar to probe underneath and see what kind of structure rocks underneath. But interestingly it's also carrying a low frequency radio wave detective, so meter meter wave wave to detect radiation from some from other planets in our system, don't tell us something about inner workings of this natural objects. And the reason why you're doing on the moon instead of on. There's is because earns hasn't I own there that that you basically just blocking us awhile. And even if those things competitor it down, those frequencies, if actually the radio broadcasting frequencies, so instead of hearing the song a scope on there that would would just just hear us tacking, basically. Well, more is on where where does this energy come from? It is reported that it will also use the nuclear energy is that kind of breakthrough. During the Rosa get most of their energy from solar panels there. They're small amounts of radioactive material on stage cost, but that's really just during the looting. Tonight's make sure that the batteries together like no free and jersey looming night because there is no summarizing of the. Won't be able to generate solar energy, and they would probably want very much, and I expect some of the solar soul of the folding tied to a warm. And so basically when the sunshine the land during the Rosa will work, but when when it's not time and nice lost up two weeks. They probably were not check vity. John what road does this play in the entire lunar exploration of China? So now is channel three with down the front channel four down the back. So it's sort of robotic explorations thing, I is is is reading up, and then the next step would be we'll be having the of five go there. I'm bring back a lot of samples. So that's return mission technically allow China do much moderate rocket for that. And then beyond that, I think people thinking about building a robotic based that's the human capable but not necessarily having any human actually, I'm there. So there's lots of to follow. Maybe a look at the bigger picture. What will be the priority of humans future lunar exploration? Well, I think China eventually plans to land astronauts on the moon, and that that will be the national prestige. But it's also very good time. Because even though you can do a lot with robots. Face the changure vision. If you send a skilled human to the moon, but you can do things that robots do I it's still too. And it's today, Jerry what they do how they can retrieve rock, especially with it. And I think it's important to remember that we don't have a proper understanding of how the moon phones or how it relates to what interiors by and so there are looking mystery the uncovered about the mood and living on the move and spending ashville, those also practice sending human deeper into states such as mission Tamaz and also some say besides the expiration of those mysteries on the moon's people. Human beings is also going to start the exploitation of the Neuner space is that right? I don't think we're going to meeting any Monning balloons quash. Some of this talk about money weekly fuel from the mood funding helium three which is a specialized helium, which could be used in fusion reactors generate power on probably we constantly fusion reactor pal generation yet. And we don't even know if we would need mine billions from the move run it. So I think it's been a very long time before anything is mine. The. Okay. And professor Jones China also promoting international cooperation in this lunar exploration program. Yeah. That's always. So for example, on this particular one there's a German donors purses neutral detector, especially a Geiger counter there's finish neutral atom detector, which basically studies the interaction because solar wind fifth, and there are other other stuff as well. For example. There's I think there's this Saudi camera on one of the mental side flying with my type bridge. The the the communication really felt like so lots and lots of different countries. Moved and MAURICE Vanessa and mystery trader once talk about the possibility of club ration- was the Chinese agency. So are we expecting China US cooperation in space exploration in the near future? I don't think that will happen in the very near future. Not now Jim is not the first master administrator who Christie's is trying to the Charlie Bolden actually, China when mastered mistake try to stop school, but every time. They have to do with the fact that the US of the thirty year level walking cooperation between the US and China enough. So there are a lot of times there would love to work with China, but because of US government policy and laws they have to some doing. So and I think that the United States would change that policy for some time. Okay. Thank you MAURICE Jones or trillion space analyst and writer as well as Joan fern associate professor of astronomy department of Beijing normal university. You're listening to you're listening to today. We'll be back in a minute. Focus all in one place. China applies focuses on the middle kingdom bringing you breaking news in the stories that matter to you search for China plus the app store Google play. Welcome back. You're listening to today. I'm joing Janis stayed counselor and foreign minister while he is paying a visit to the African Union and four African countries. The trip from January the second to six to the AU N Ethiopia Burkina fossil Gambia and certain goal is the Haitian of the foreign ministers of the four nations, and they chairman of a U Chinese Foreign Minister house chosen Africa for the first overseas. Visit each year over the past years, and while yeast visit is a continuation of tradition which speaks volumes for the importance of China attached to his ties with Africa on won't use visit and the Jonah Africa relationship in general, Mike colleague, shoot endorse spoke to Beninese ambassador to Beijing summon peer adult under Chinese formula has embarked on trip to Africa at the beginning of the new year Twenty-nine chain. So actually, this has been the normal system. So what's your region of the the practice, which gives Africa a special place in Chinese external relationship? I think this is the an expression of continuation of worth our for previous leaders have done because anytime that I see. Minister for defense. Foreign affairs minister travelling to Africa to open his year is remind media relationship between him or mouse it with our leaders at the damned that Botha continent country, China and Africa were facing a challenge of coronation and also independence and for me is this person of recognition better. So it contribution of friendship a friendship despise all the Jalen g that the word efficient now is to maintain. What our previous leaders have started. Then for me, say Greece saying that Rianne the right path better. So our sincerity not just in the words better. So in action is to showing the action of what we are seeing. We are doing it's the combat. Nation of speech and action and his great it giving a great confidence on our relationship. The sincerity of our relationship between China and Africa were speaker for action in the year twenty and witnessed the Beijing summit of the fromm on China Africa cooperation to size, China and Africa agreed appoint age cooperation initiatives, so please tell us how to these initiatives me to the lead of the development Africa. The extra initiatives don't come from no way before this amid we have many meetings between both sides to evaluate the previous folk the dryness book some outcome. How we implement that are com- were at the strength and weakness, and based upon the results of what we are chief in the past we come with this eight in shitty, then is inner just something that China proposed Africa base, the common ground resort biz up on the work that we didn't before the focus then for me is the news reflect the eight component reflect the KOMO needs from both path is the result of an agreement of cooperation between China and Africa. Then for me all the eight component that we have add as the outcome of the FOCA. The resort of our common in for the coming year for our people when meeting your president patriots talent in Beijing last year. Chinese president Xi Jinping said in China and Africa could brothers friends and partners his stressed that. The Chinese people will never forget, the deep friendship and a precious support from the African people in some have described equally myself, actually, China Africa relationship is a special relationship is that for podcast resumption special relationship. But also, let's see right and responsible relationship mostly because each. Path in this relationship. How his all strategy. In uh, something that one part imposed to the other part is freely based upon the needs and the priority of each part that we common agreement of what we have to that shows one of the key caress tasty for Chinese people their own amber and also want to share then this relationship. What is make it really special is none of the party coming judge the older on once he's doing, but is coming to share what they have everybody come around and want to share what they have in openness. That's where the term win win cooperation from in. Not a m- not come around the to impose something to you. But I share what they have a prison. I have and see biz upon what you want. To do. How can we work together? That is why is there is a lot of criticism about this relationship because not let the former relationship that we used to know and those were decided that their lost because they don't find the Castelli. Stick of what they used to do in this type of relationship that African chain how to get and for me something that we need to to show antique stores in terms of relationship between two part of county. Where in the Belton road initiative by the Chinese side, please role in further linking, China Africa through infrastructure and other aspects in terms of construction, but also there are repose as we mentioned criticism unique mostly western media. Seeing that the Chinese investment in infrastructure in particular like Africa, you know, some even label it as a debt diplomacy or that trap. As what's your response to that kind of allegation? Thank you do win. I have to to refresh about that. Those were talking about debts Moines depth to that those what they're talking about. Sometime you want down what they're talking about. But the on refreshing that gave me east to the east letter lack of respite to those. In the data about Africa slacker, taking our leaders in the countries, let irresponsible people we know what we are doing. We know what we are doing. We have plenty fixation of our economy and our development, and then for me, he did discussion between China and Africa each countries have his own policy each country have his own vision the battery shitty for me. Is unimportant the jenner's giving special to my country been to add more Vinoo or more tools of cooperation and have more resources to the development of our infrastructure. That is for about countries based upon our plan, but based upon also our strategy in the West Point to build our plan and have our debt system in place in the management of the damn system. Then for me betting Rudin chief. I'm so glad that my country's part of that. I'm so glad so happy during the visit of my country and my president in China. We send agreement that now been in his forty part of the road in city, and this up to US, China and Africa and bidding to develop our plan to take better understanding betta use of the resources that come through the baton would initiative. Thank you, MS passenger that Simon that Simon Pierre Avangard ambassador from Benin to join us. Speaking was my colleague shooting dole coming up UK and France have agreed to step up migrant patrols in English channel apple blames China week. I phone sells and also come your pin. Other news two weeks into the US government shutdown. Federal workers are struggling to pay for medicine and travelers leaving Japan will have to pay tax starting month. You're listening to today's stay with us. With the great effort made by the stall today. Become one of the great platform will politics and information dissemination, and I wish today have even brighter and greater tomorrow. At the guest speaker with the day. I feel very grateful for providing jump for me communicate of the world. And China's progress in China's accomplishment and also China, switch cultural heritage. And of course, China's desire to integrated delve into the international community. I believe today. Open the window as well as adults bridge between people in China and the world. You're listening to today. I'm going now is global survey where we look at what's happening around the world. Join me in the serial as my colleague, Patrick, Flannery. First Asia Chinese startup looking expects to overtake Starbucks as the country's largest coffee chain and tourists Thailand. Or leaving the resort vacation ahead of tropical storm expected to churn up twenty foot waves in Oceania, a sixteen year old is in jail after police say he fatally stepped man at a church of sun tala G complex in Sydney, New Zealand's. Largest DVD rental store is closing after twenty one years in Oakland and selling his inventory of sixty thousand movies and gays and Africa. We still do not know who will be the next president of the are Congo as vote-counters await eighty percent of election tallies in JIRA is banning Syrians from entering the country in hopes of keeping out members of defeated rebel groups turning to the Middle East and Egypt. Sharon, human rights activists wants wife pardoned for. Authorities of doing nothing to protect women from sexual harassment. Carter has doubled tax on alcohol. Putting the cost of a pack of beer at about eighty dollars. In europe. The former Brexit minister is urging UK Prime Minister Theresa may to delay the vote on whether to leave the European Union one in every three car sold. Norway last year was electric a new world record in lenton America resilient, president your boss narrow launch new measures to crack down on crime and shrink the size of government to victims of sexual abuse. By the Chilean Catholic church accused of country species of failing to reform the church finally North America. US state secretary Mike Pompeo demands answers from Russia over its detention of a former marine accused of spying in Moscow and drug makers of slept a bigger price tag on more than two hundred fifty prescription medications, including the world's top selling medicine Humira treatment for Crohn's disease. Thank you. Patrick, douse. The global headlines survey for today. Two men have been arrested on suspicion. Arranging the illegal movement of migrants across the English channel. According to you case national crime agency, the UK government has redeployed patrol vessels from the Mediterranean amid concerns advice in crossings. Meanwhile, it is being reported that home secretary Javate has requested help from Royal Navy. The home secretary who has cut short a family holiday last week. Agreed joint action was the French interior minister during a phone call to step up joint. Put fools an increase surveillance to tackle a rice in a number of migrants trying to reach Britain in small boats for more on this issue where now joined on the line by Dr George Tagab, Las senior research, fellow of international center for European studies. Doctors gulp low censor joining us. My pleasure. So first of all why is there a spike in refugees trying to cross the channel in small boats? What as you describe it? These there is a higher number of for these attending to gross in the last month. And there are two main explanations for these the I eat that the conditions in the friends comes in the northern part of France difficult and intolerable for many refugees as well as police brutality around there and the on region, which is mainly related to politics. The fact that breaks it in the coming blacks is creating concern and fear the refugees that in the future that will not be able to enter the UK and find a job there and the refugees are collecting information by this Mugler's. They are not very well informed. So I asked them as martyrs are generating fear that in the future, they will not be able to read the cave. Out our time to do it now under the current conditions. So on those refugees who tried to make the crossings where where do they mostly come from where we have a date which were released recently by the UK there are several countries like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, as well as African countries in particular should done and every trail. However, it's also interesting that there are many care of these people who are currently located in the northern comes of France and wants to go to the UK because occurs people from Syria, Iraq, and Iran, they have their own state. So they're trying to find directives in Europe. Do you have more details about the joint action between Britain and fronts like how are they going to put into place? When are they going to agreement three recently between the the Megrinsk minister of the UK and the flames and these agreements situates for a better coordination of actions between the two countries in order to monitor this shit rations and increase the patrols. However, it's not clear right now. What this will mean a school perations concerned because they agreement was read only a few years ago. The holy they beat it for both countries. So what we know is that there is a common will of Boris and London to cooperate. But at the same time, it's not clear whether for the time being the UK can benefit by its potential because of its seeps that it will oppose us. In order to better control digitization can be used because they are recently in the gym. I it was agreed in two thousand sixteen between the British Prime Minister Theresa may and the European Union in order to deal with the refugee crisis in these parts of the Mediterranean. So we have to wait and see whether more details would be revealed in the next day. And also said that it's being debated in in the UK more patrols could potentially encourage more people to try to make the crossings if they see those patrols as rescue boats. Yes. This is correct. And what we can say is that there are some refugees. While also having the economic opportunity to reads, the small boats, and as you are saying, and maybe the smugglers win possibly drill power between the rescue boats, and this more votes that they are using in order to bring the refugees the U K. So indeed, the problem can become deteriorate in the future, especially because some families of the refugees do have the financial capacity to pay this Madras who can then deceive them and the main you opposition leader. Jeremy Corbyn said that there was a duty to reach out the hand of humanity to people facing danger and seeking safety. Also, there seems to be the moral dilemma, I'm in shooed soldiarity was the refugees and deploy displaced persons be viewed as a basic value and part of the global ethic. Or global Commons or should the immigrants sin as a threat and don't was accordingly. Where there's big debates now not only in the U K. But also in other countries what to do with the the refugees normally social democratic parties. Right. They one of Durham Corbin dance to defend that is of of the refugees. Why conservative parties believe that the refugees? Do practically harm the national economies. It's very very difficult debate and undercurrent circumstances in in the UK. I think that the division sub are becoming more more clear and Jeremy Corbyn is not generally having a spate or put forward stance on the refugee crisis. But also regarding the Brexit. So I think that I think are developing in the UK, I think it will be even more worse regarding very searching off that. The refugees especially as the critical vote for in the British parliament for Brexit is is looming. But generally speaking that our government, even in Europe, Greece is a case with our prepares to host refugees while other governments in Hungary, for instance, which are more more skeptic. It's very difficult debate. And the next year opinion, parliament election will be critical in that regards actually within the inaction of populist governments in many countries in Europe. So do you think this will continue to Raisch a politics in Europe in the coming year into nineteen? I think yes, it's a very good question and the experience from the European crisis the debt one economic and refugees one suggesting that the second refugee crisis have had already are much more important impact in the voting behavior of fast is and and we see that far. Allied parties. Are that is because they are tending to benefit by what they see us a threat because all of the coming refugees, and what is even more worrying is that this is happening or so in countries, which are not necessarily encountered with economic problems, like Germany, for instance, or also the Netherlands and dorsal Austria, I think that the debate is is free truth. But at the same time also the European citizens are bit afraid because some terrorist attacks that are regularly taking place in two thousand and seen some of them can't be associated with the flow of refugees. We has read Europe in the last three years. So the debate is very difficult. And I it is normally happening in times of crisis populist politicians are on the rise because they can say to several cities as what they wants to hear and research. Only the Rwandan president polka gummy said in interview that Europe's failed policies in Africa are actually the drivers of the immigration crisis hitting the European continent because of their investment in Africa, basically has a return ticket. Does that does he have a point? What does this very interesting interview as the president of Rhonda was in Vienna? And folk to our north three and newspaper, and what he said is that the European investments in Africa do not necessarily contribute to the money to be kept in your countries. By contrast, the European companies European countries are practically interested in benefiting by the investments and bringing them the people that money back Europe. And this is what is creating the tendency of some African people to visit. And we believe in Europe because they do not find many opportunities in Africa us because the type and the nature of European investments is is is of that kind. I should say that this very interesting interview. Because in these interviews the president also compare the investments of European with. Type of China when China he said that time is companies are creating Joe position for African people. And that VC's what makes very much of China even better in African compels into Europe. I think the interview was very good. And it is it is giving some insights about the different nature of investment coming from from Europe and from from China in in in this continent, according to the United Nations my twenty fifty migrants account for eighty two percent of the overall population rose in developed countries, and perhaps the situation might be even worse in Europe. So what kind of impact will have on the locals in terms of their culture, identity or social stability. I think we need to find a way to deal with this problem, right? What is very good question. I think that the impact will be loud and significant and this is already happening because we see that very often refugees and immigrants who I working in in European countries are making jobs that the Europeans are are very often hesitant undertaking. The tendency is that these will be even more significant in in the future and still radically multicultured the culture and better education can't contribute though. It's a better understanding and can provide a better reception and host batali before immigrants and refugees. But again, this is very difficult for the political circumstances. However, long term approach is is required. Because the serfdom of the medium-term coach is not working in the favor of these ten. Of this different tendency, and and and the refugees who do not necessarily feel a home when they are eating Europe. I think that only takes the main obstacle as opposed to long-term vision of improving education starving schools. Thank you. Dr George senior research fellow of international center for European studies apple has cut his first quarter revenue outlook, citing weaker than insipid sells for items in China that is spent at number as now at eighty four billion dollars shop lower than the earlier forecast averaging ninety one billion apple CEO team. Cook tells investors slowing sales are partly because of the trade friction between the US and China cook says other factors will also decrease Apple's revenue including the timing of his iphone launches last year for more on those my colleague John earlier talked was one analyst we communist intelligence unit and yell Shuji chong-ku. Professor of economics at university. First of all team cook in the letter is largely attributing the slowing sales to weaker than expected sales of iphones in China. Among some other things like the timing of new iphone launches and a stronger dollar. How would you evaluate those factors behind is weaker performance? I think those factors are important, but our secondary. If we look at a strong dollar, of course, a weekend is profit. But apple still one of the most profitable cellphone producers. And those facts, I think only worked on the margin on the timing of the launch was really just okay, it's consistent with the past and not have normal. What's really striking to me is actually how unpopular this new iphone model is on? They're not really the transformative innovation. People have been waiting for is quite pricey for what you've got. So that's why it's. Not doing. Wow in China. It's not the trade war other things behind it. I think the fundamental problem is done. This means the nice thing in my view is is the value for money issue because I phone is always tries very high to custom because they want to pay the brunt premium, but the competitors quality have been improved over the years. Paci clear while way, I'm still being in others. They are kissing up so quickly in if is on his no chance to pricing. I think it would. It was Cincinnati go down. Not just now. But in the future the challenge for life on Lille, you either have to have a much better model. This is the different from any other more, though is this thing in the market or you have to have legalistic price, fundamental problem. Iphone is he's no good value for money for many many customers. So then did China smartphone market really reach situation and people don't want news phones as much as they did in the past few years, or is that the hallway story, the may, you know, a strong competitor of apple in China's market China smartphone markets, I think this argument is such ration-. It's true for some groups, but not for others from what I saw through interviews and surveys people from smaller cities actually are still very fond by new cell phone. They want to upgrade, and they would do this through consumer loans. Through genome, or Tim O different type form. It's just apple product is not the most popular one is that it's vivo Xiaomi while these are more popular before the urban large city consumers, I think saturation may have happened Amman the highest the most highly value added consumers, but I don't particular like this situation this word because from the quantity everyone has a cell phone for sure smartphone, it's enough including myself. But if there's some new innovation as appealing to me, I would immediately got and get one voter models is probably saturated and talking about I actually now what does the performance of other apple products? Nuclite for example. The ipad airports, blue twos, earphones and MAC book nap tops, and they join up to offset the weaker sales in iphones on their proformer forms has been mediocre for the past. Few years. It's not just this year. It only reach too small group of people are usually high income the middle class in large cities not enough of that of the week or so if I for sure especially the air pods on that apple has put so much faith in on their very good knockoffs in China. Look similar is sound very good. And for MAC book is their computer to but Chinese people do now used to it people prefer PC. And that's why Microsoft service is having a spectacular year in China and simultaneously. You can't actually take the screen from the Microsoft surface and use it kind of similar to I ipad. So there's really no reason for people to get out to buy the new model of at from apple and does a what does the future neglect for the company if a stew one shoeprint retinue stuff and maintain his power to me apple is still very very good company. In terms of innovations applying chain, its reputation and also has a very good culture. I've been to several classes of apple university. They have quite good classes teaching on not just the technology. But also the culture philosophy things like that. But fundamentally whether apple thing or even leading future is that's whether they can retain talents in the tax actor is very fluid and the turnover is quite fast for good designers. Good programmers on if they find the innovation ability of evil is more exciting, and there's higher spending research and development, they might as well jump over to the other company. And so then people always say apple under cook is losing new ideas and being Ness mode, and then beaches for a giant company for Apple's isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think the risk is rising. There's a very good book around long ago called innovators Lamma written by Christiansen. That's a professor from our business school, and he talked about how the new technology can disrupt incumbents leading companies like Kodak, that's a classic example. It didn't see the fall of fumes. And then it's out and for apple it does look like in the past twenty years started to emerge as starting from a disruptor, but slowly growing into this established attack giants, and there's a high risk that it cannot have the breakthrough at enjoyed before. Because the system is simply too complicated to accommodate new new innovations. I should. Yeah. So is it just a apple on a giants? Let Amazon like Facebook also experiencing a tough time making the business Hicks and look the company they they established in grow there. Become dominance and and up to tickets. They may grow down significantly statistics on the in many other company in Japan by don't think stem stole you probably just replicated for the American tech giant about certainty. Some of this text on would go the same way as his. Japanese Tony thing some of them may be able to get this. So, you know, ten a logical Trump like moving into a new area fister. Intelligence and onto intelligent thing in other earlier with we don't know at this stage about the just falling to this no more because if they move on are mowing more competition in the market and the company who failed to support new opportunity, and they stuck into the almo though, then they will get into trouble getting awful apple is likely to this way. Dan, both you and shoot talk about the challenges the top challenges face by the tech giant's. How do think how important is the strategy adjustment? For those big touch giants, which one is doing better on this front. I think strategy adjustment for big type giants is important. But it cannot be too fast. And in fact, all those type giants have very diversified businesses. Like Amazon not flicks. They're seeing into the subscription Konomi and both are doing quite well, but in terms of who's doing better, I actually in my head that's ten cents is when you evaluate a technology company. You you look at two things one is how innovative or technology factor. How could it is? And the other one is platform and tencent doesn't have any rivals and still kind of level on China's huge market potential so comparing to Amazon Netflix and Facebook, actually, tencent is facing much more profitable marketing future than them since one Dan unless of Economist Intelligence Unit and know Chongqing professor of economics at trenching university. Speaking was shown now Patrick Flannery is Jonas for other news almost two weeks into the. The US government shutdown eight hundred thousand federal workers are facing a very scary prospect, no paycheck, not until the government reopens and it won't without democratic approval to fund President Trump's demand for a five billion dollar wall along the Mexican border. This leaves almost a million workers scrambling to make rent car, payments and other bills so many are now dipping into savings putting off occasion. So they can afford to pay for prescription medications how just print the situation will Trump's executive order froze federal worker salaries for the year. Half of them are now working without pay the other half or furloughed at home PBS NewsHour reported that eight and ten American workers live paycheck to paycheck and their average credit card debt is about eight thousand dollars US. So this comes at the same week as drugmakers increase the price of many prescription drugs. How are these workers struggling will kind of harsh aren't they? Immediately facing CNBC did a nice piece on this. They talked to several people one was attack examiner a federal worker. He says he cannot afford is. Insulin medication. Another person works for border protection and asked his credit union if he should take out alone. And what we're finding is some unions representing federal workers and the now suing the government for forcing them to work without pay these workers that get back pay when they return to work was the shutout in back pay is not guaranteed. There is a Bill pending congress right now about whether to give furloughed workers back pay. But it's it kinda remains to be seen whether that happens. The next step is more important and that happens later today in Washington DC, and that's when Democrats hope to adopt a Bill to end, the shutdown and that's without funding wall. Let's move on to our next topic. We'd need to get ready to pay more to fly. And this has nothing to do with baggage fees some airports now charging more to arrive and depart, and that means new travel taxes just for entering and exiting a certain place. So if you're traveling into Venice Italy, for example, you'll soon pay what's called a landing fee. Meanwhile, if you're leaving Japan, you'll pay departure tax. The reasons behind these fees differ. Though officials insist the money is needed in order to keep tourism alive. The how Marshall how much are these new tax is going to cost tourists, and when they take out for Japan, it's next week. If you're flying out of any airport in the country, you'll pay an additional twelve dollars the Venetian landing fee in Italy that will cost about the same. And that goes fact in July, many countries already charged departure taxes, it's nothing New Mexico. Cuba, the Philippines. The case of Venice. Italy is very interesting because it applies only to people arriving there and not only by airplane. The feeble also apply to those arriving on cruise ships since those tourists don't pay hotel taxes as it is how will new taxes help to manage. The the mass tourism events gets about twenty four million tourists every year more than half of them are what they call daytrippers that come in for the day. They leave people there complained that the daytrippers bring their own food, usually they don't spend a whole lot of money during their visit. So this new fee? Will go toward cleaning the city as well. The mayor says because the more visitors you have the more garbage gets produced more garbage speed be picked up. So you hire more city workers to do that regarding Japan. They get thirty million visitors year and the money collected on leaving Japan will pay for facial recognition at airports in Japan, as we know are really banking on more visitors of the next year ahead of the twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics. Okay. Thank you Patrick now. All the time we have for this edition of today to listen to this vote again or catch up on previous episodes. You can download our podcast search world news analysis. The program engineer this episode. 'as ching, I'm showing thank you so much for listening.
Chinese President Xi Jinping proposes institutional arrangements for peaceful development of cross-Strait relations.
"Taste. Today provide you with indepth news and expert analysis telling the who story hump bigger picture. You the news you want to know on today. Janis president Xi Jinping proposes institutional arrangements for peace for development of cross-strait relations jar boss Naro takes office in Brazil and targets corruption crime and now make mismanagement DR Congo government cuts internet to avert popular uprising. China's Berge numbers are expected to fall to lowest levels since two thousand. You're listening to today a news program with a different perspective. I'm joining coming up. We'll have an hour of world news and analysis to hear this soda in or to catch up home. Previous episodes. You can download our podcast by searching world news analysis. Four decades ago on New Year's day of nineteen Seventy-nine. China's top lawmaking body issue. The message to compatriots entire one steadying the major policies to realize the peaceful reunification of China. The message marks the beginning of a new historical period in theory and practice of result. Of issues relevant to tie one and a new chapter in the development of cross strait relations Chinese president Xi Jinping on Wednesday delivered a keynote speech at a gathering commemorating the fortieth anniversary of the message to compatriots entire one. She'd reviewed the history of cross strait relations over the past seventy years stressing the fact that Taiwan is part of China and the mainland and Taiwan belong to one. China can never be changed by any forces. He also proposed out the main Lennon one conduct democratic consolidation on cross strait relations and the future of the nation. She pointed out that the cross strait issue at a family issue, which should be resolved by the family members themselves, adding that Beijing would never tolerate any form of activity promoting Taiwan independence for more on the cross strait relations. We're now joined on the line by Victor, go. Our current affairs commentator Victor glad to have you. Thank you very much for having me. So what are the key messages from the speech? I think president Xi Jinping today deliver a very important land box speech about cross-straits relations involving China mainland and Taiwan. I think of extraordinary importance in his speech was the reference to setting up institutional arrangements and preparing for the cross-strait democratic dialogue. All consolidations. I think this change the whole dynamic in the cross strait relations, and this in historical term will be the starting point all of prostate, which will eventually lead towards no renew fixation. Yes, Enda please remind is a little bit on the significance of the message to compatriot in Taiwan, which has issued forty years ago by the standing committee of. China's National People's congress. Why is a sin as a mouse Joe in the process of cross strait relations? Thank you very much. We know that after the end of the second war, China devolved into civil war between the communist party of China, and the KMT which was at that time, the ruling party in China, and in nineteen forty nine Tim Valdo declared the establishment of the People's Republic of China after the Chinese communist military took over all all parts of mainland, China and the nationalist headed by general this more Chang Shik let to Taiwan where these state up to now and ever since then or about thirty years that's between ninety nine to ninety seventy nine both. Yeah. In Chinese mainland that is the People's Republic of China, and they're in China Taiwan. Providence. That's the Republic of China declare themselves as the sole Representative of China. They acknowledged that was one China for that each of them because they were so Representative of China, and they were engaged it in the continuation of the civil war and the two sides actually a bomb. Each other. You always several small island controlled by Taiwan offshore from China's who Jim probably so hostility and military confrontation this days between ninety forty nine all the way to nineteen ninety nineteen seventy nine then that is the celebration we mocked today. Forty years ago, the National People's Congress in Beijing issued this communicate all the message is the competitor in pay one basically bring the military confront patient to and. And the Chinese mainland. No longer are shell the bombs. I guess the island controlled by Taiwam, and they also proposed three connection that is to stop mail services to five aviation on advocation or shipping services as what I to stock trade between the two sides of the street and this they're accurate. They abroad the back to the cross strait relations and divided families which probably have never seen each other for that case dollar to get United. And you weakness, a lot of human happiness and family tragedies in this whole process soldiers up to more than one billion for went within the listen more championship from even China to Taiwan started to come back, many of them all. Depaz? But these do want to insist that their ashes would be try to spoil the back to their native plays to be parents as a home, for example. So we really have gone through human tragedies as whereas trying of one China, and then very quickly when Mr. leading way was the president the pie one and later when miss the treasury van was the president of Taiwan cross-strait relations, mainly because they don't want to recognize because as reached by Taiwan and China's mainland in nineteen ninety two in Singapore acknowledging that there was only one China and both sides of the Taiwan Straits belong to this one China concept, and when miss pie you wanna became the president in Taiwan two years ago after several years of the president. Is held by the Cam t the mistrial in one and her party, or at least of members over poppy wallet to deviate from the one China policy, and they wanted to move 'cause Taiwa independence and more recently. I think the United States stepped up that interference in Taiwan's situation. They adopted several legislations which were very dangerous from mainland China perspective about the Taiwan situation. So I think that they in China that we mocks the faulty anniversary on the MP's bending committees message to the competitors in want. I think as president Xi Jinping mentioned in his speech. Time is not an open ended process we need to create momentous. We need to these the moment, and we need to really start process between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait. Political tation which eventually will lead to reunification indeed loss of ups and downs in the past seventy years of cross strait relations. And what's worse noticing is that just one day before see speech, the Taiwan leaders. Hang one used her new year speech to ask Chinese mainland to respect the freedom and democracy of Taiwan's twenty three million people. And today, she said that the difference in systems is not an obstacle to rain to unification or an excuse of separation and not only the social citizens tie one will be fully respected after a peaceful reunification. But also, the private assets religions and legis legitimate rights of Taiwan compatriots will be fully guaranteed. So do you see this as a strong rebuttal to what chain one said? Yes. But more importantly, I think president Xi Jinping's announcement and major artery well, consistent with fundamental principles of peaceful reunification that China has advocated over the past forty years now, what time when is talking about about protecting of freedom and democracy. Taiwan, for example, is in bonded eating the principle of one country two systems, mainly because after the reunification Taiwan will get its own political system as p mentioned in the nineteen eighties have higher level overtime me. And I wanted to even keep its military forces as a separate false from the mainland Chinese military falls. So I think there should be no worry about the freedom all a democracy or property right of the people in taiw-. Lawan what we need to gotta get what we can never tolerate is the so called the independent. Breaking away of that wa. China all people in Taiwan. Some by hot extremists, for example, pushing for the FOX foxhole or the jury independence of Kiowa. That's what cannot be tolerated and foreign interference in Taiwan of their affairs, for example, keeping selling more arms to Taiwan keeping soaking. Seem style. We'll get to use Taiwan as a palm in geopolitical arms Wesley with People's Republic of China. These maneuverings should be terminated. It's actually the United States has dispatched washes to tell in straight free times last year and emerge twelve site in the Taiwan travel act, which encourages official government exchanges between the United States Taiwan and just three days ago. Trump signed into law the Asia reassurance initiative act which calls on the US president to sin high level officials to Taiwan and to regularly sell arms to Taiwan. So what do you make of the US elements in Taiwan issue? Yes. I think the United States right now is fast becoming the most important and most dangerous political false aiding and abetting the so called the independence movement in Taiwan, and this roms of fall with determination and the spirit of the Chinese nation in defending the one China policy, and I mean, people both to size of straight. I think the United States should take lesson from the results of the recent local elections in Palawan where for example, if he suffered a major loss, and they KMT enjoyed a major victory now KMT through his representatives control more than up to about seventy percent of the local governments. See, for example. Where's DP river? You control the less than probably percent. So I think the message is very clear to everyone. I want everyone here mainland China, but also to everyone in the United States to the whole world matters, the people in Taiwan, you not want to combined patient with playmate China, they won't have peace and stability and better living spend it and one of the United States is doing is counter to these objectives to these inspirations and the demands on the people in Taiwan, and I think China will not tolerate this China will spend from president. She's being is very clear when it declared that China wants to seek peaceful reunification between mainland China and Taiwan. However, China will not exclude the use of false in case of extreme continues this, and he was very specific. When he mentioned that these extreme contingencies may involve a third country's interfere. In Taiwan affairs, all from by three missed in Taiwan will keep pushing for the dependence of Taiwan, by the user false will be targeted against the people in Taiwan. He assured that people pay one that they should be proud of benefit of the increasing prosperity of China's a whole as well as the increasing international prestige of China's invasion on the global stage. I actually how how do we understand those does this men? There's the possibility that the Chinese men that may take Taiwan by force. I hope not I hope reason and rationality will prevail between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait mainly because if we look at the reality cross-strait, economic integration is already affair dot on plea. China's mainland is the largest trading partner for China's Taiwan province and at any given day. There is more than one million people from Taiwan working living by the traveling around in China, and it's only a couple of hours of hours flights from mainland China from Beijing, Shanghai Guang does tend to you name it loss of life to Taiwan here in Beijing example, I can take early morning flight from Beijing to Taiwan have lunch. I've meeting in Taipei and then take the evening flight back to Beijing. Getting back to the same city. Woody one day, so economically degrade. This happening is fed. I'm putting on about that. And political integration is a process. It's already going. It has not been completed. It will stop to move up to higher level as presence patients. When beings petitional is the steps will be taken to stop the cross-straits consolidation, and he mentioned political parties and the renowned the person in both Chinese mainland as well as paying one meeting and talking about the future of China, and how the diggers things about really the Asian can be worked out. And this could be the start of the political process of to the national renew vacation of China. Thank you to go. Our current affairs commentator comb. Yup. Drawer boss, narrow takes office in Brazil and targets corruption crime and economic mismanagement. You're listening to today. Stay with us. Hi. Today's show. Bring experts local and international perspectives on China's economic and business issues having been in law governments and finance in the United States. I find China's economic level fascinates and hope do also thank you for listening. Welcome back. You're listening to today. I'm joing Brazil's far-right president jar Ross Naro has promised to build a society without discrimination or devotion attitu- office on Tuesday. He told congress that he wanted a national pact to free result of corruption. Crime and economic mismanagement Boston are a wall in the presidential election by a white margin against Nanno Haddad of the less left-wing Workers Party on October the twenty eighth for more on this. We're now joined on the line by Diogo Vinicius. Martin's a Brazilian political analyst could evening. Doing. Thank you for having me and happy new year. Happy New Year's what changes will those new presidents bring to your country? I think that the name chain that Brazil's going so have that being for the first time in the history. Brazil is going to have a liberal government. If you think that Brazil has social democratic in life is government after the big ship. You realize that never had a really liberal government. So if everything going it's going to be as the government is planning where he is going to have a more open economy liberal economy, and maybe a more conservative conservative society, when we think about Brazil, I believe that most of the listeners they versus very famous for the kind of oh, and very is probably very open minded country. But the reality realities that Brazil, very conservative country, Brazil. President coutries most Beijing Catholicism and increasing. So we think that because of Brazil electable Sner because Brazil, these not really open conscious conservative, you know, sh. So she posed society that is willing to have open economy. The president has also made some racist or homophobic remarks in the past. So has that maybe worried some Brazilians as well. Very interesting. I think that most of the remarks when now just kind of not police go correct remarks, he has more clarity. Because in off today. Now was not has very high rate. He's very vocal they're not very populous. But really poplar leader. And also needs to keep his supporters active during the enough this kind of rhetorical kind of very not political. Correct rhetorics when he stay kind of bad things about gay people like they people in the minority people like some people enjoy the, of course, you hurt feelings of of people knew is not political, correct. But the people who I was kind of coming base keep supporting both on our in. I think that both Nour's going to keep making this kind of COMEX to keep the peace park active. Because you need that. As you say, we need a drag on fight, George you need a monster hero. So both on our wants to be a hero. So need I'm older and going to make this kind of homage to create the Moster create enemy the country. Okay. But he has promised the speech build a society without discrimination or division. But we also see at the same time his not given up his criticism of Brazil's leftist policies by saying that from today Brazilians are now freed from socialism. So are those veterans go into further divide the country instead of uniting it? I think that I also think so I think that was going to be more violent because as I say both nerve me keep these porters active need to have a really fight against your position there positional as you mentioned hajjis was running for the work labor party. And. You know has very big problem because he because the former president hula is in jail. He's trying to make free look free again in this kind of start of making away from the Scotian they country most of the left the opposition parties in the new government. You're going to try to create a new group anew less group and the opposition is going to be divide and less and less less. So I mean, the left is going to be going be dividing two groups one of them without be and other. We only be is personality enough today because we're going to have less problems with the position. So probably the big problem for both and is going to be his own government is on immigration. And what about the foreign policy because we know Boston are always caught by many as that form of topics. And for example, he has promised to follow the US to relocate Brazil's embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Roussum and Donald Trump also commented him for his speech on Twitter saying that the US was with him so hell might the country's foreign policy change under the new president, the new flooring for affairs ministry mistero. We will he has very has giving you'd comments about foreign affairs in about western civilization now about the relationship between China Brazil. I think that this kind of comments moral baby they like most nerve of the world, but they're really not positive for the conham. I believe that they are going to have a lot of pressure from the agribusiness in the business sector as well in Brazil to. Presume more or less than me to position the world. You cannot have very dramatic change in for an affair because they're not gonna reflect on the Konami both has had that he's going to focus his for foreign policy in. She owned Julie American Israel. If you think that tree countries do not have any really good economic benefits to to cooperate with. I think that kind of rhetoric is going to have every shorts term life. I think that they kind of official statement that more or less in less than six months. They're going to change this kind of. What about the China? Brazil relations, boss naral went said that the Chinese are not buying in Brazil. They are vying Brazil. How do you look at those comments? I both on our has visit Taiwan. I heard the discussion about the speech of civil Taiwan. And it's funny because visit in his avoid coming. And because it was she had this kind of Cold War mind. But after some some comments from the Chinese government was more or less chain. He's Supposin about the Taiwan. He recognized the China's really important business for you. For the most important thing between after about Brazilian and Chinese economic cooperation is that you need China. China doesn't doesn't really need. But I think that Brazil is now a very bad economic situation financial by vets financially tuition, and we need to create jobs. They implement unemployment rate in Brazil is very high. So you need to create jobs. So the new economic minister Mr. alga is going to need to to to increase to improve their relationship with China. So in the end of the day when you think that you need to have a better comic activity better comic situation. But the fester and easiest way used to have a better relationship China, so resume must have a better relation. Have a better comic situation. So oh, just I believe that's the biggest supporter of presume in China relationship, economic and trade relationship, and he knows that if they knew of the new government doesn't provide me jobs for the people were going to lose a lot of variety for for for the government. Thank you. Thank you. We're running out of time. But thank you for insights tonight. Thank you. Dear go Venice's. Venezia's Martins Brazilian political analyst Camille, d r Congo government 'cause internet to avert popular uprising and Jonah's personal members are expected to fall to lowest level since two thousand you're listening to today's say with us. Welcome back. You're listening to today. I'm joing now is global survey were will look at what's happening around the world. Joining me in the studio as Patrick Flannery. We begin in Asia tonight where at least eighty five people were killed in landslides and floods in the central Philippines, and Japan will start collecting departure tax for every person flying out of the country to help pay for facial recognition software at airports in Oceania. Australian government leaders say they will strip the citizenship an accused recruiter for the Islamic state and home prices in the country are at the worst in ten years was an analyst expecting a weaker real estate market for twenty nineteen an Africa. Smalley government is ordering the country's top u n official to leave accusing him of interfering with the nation sovereignty about five thousand African migrants attempted to cross into France last year with less than half of them making successfully in the Middle East Egypt's president discussed. US president Donald form the stability of the Middle East and efforts to confront terrorism. The top US general enough ghanistan told NATO troops prepare for anything as he's talked spin the US tally Ben containing in Europe. It was six people have been killed in a train crash on a bridge Denmark as police investigate the cause of that accident. British victims of forced marriage are now being asked to cover the expenses associated with their rescue in lenton America on the sixties versus of Cuba's revolution. Former president Raul Castro criticized at formulas trae Shen over his policies towards the island nation who Duras is weighing whether to move this embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in Israel and finally North America in an op-ed for the Washington Post and coming Utah Senator and former Republican presidential contender. Mitt Romney said President Trump has not risen to the mental of the office and Paul Whalen, the American held in Russia on charges of spying was visiting Moscow to attend a wedding and never made it there. According to the former marines brother, thank you. Patrick global headline survey for today. The Democratic Republic of Congo has shut down internet access in key cities a day after a delayed presidential election provisional results. Affi election are not a sped it until January. The six free candidates are front running the race. Former interior minister Emmanuel remedy, Sherry is the candidate of the ruling party Phil shis, a Keti another front runner is the son of a veteran opposition leader and Martin you'll as the third candidate likely to win the election all three claims on his vote has gone their way thin Coleman. President Joseph Kabila is stepping down after seventeen years in office was more on those my colleague, gene Honda. Earlier spoke was Dr HOGAN, ping, a senior research, fellow an expert on African studies Chinese Academy of social sciences. So first of all, Dr do you think all three leading candidates are confident? They can win this election. Oh, I think of them. They claim a big win the elected to show all of them to have confidence. They want to shows to their support her that day the ride 'cause for days, actually, we have no idea who is going to become the winner at last. But I think of danza this kind of tactic of three of the otherwise because before the election come y'all's if you not feel in this kind of the pug, of course, that's a Fadia beginning. So I think a should they already? That's the candidates from the ruling party he has the support of President Kabila. So do you think this will make any difference? This will change anything. Oh, yes. Because there was a wide. The painting saying this interior minister toasty by of president copy LA. Actually Welby served as a neither like a poppy fuller press puppy love because a popular has been there in our for as long as eighteen years, though. The reason he has imposed suppose electing like two years labor that's long to make sure the future president is spill something as Nico control. So this is a lively loom are now in a Diaz e go people actually don't think this is becoming at one for him. Actually is a long will they attended? Why would you say this is a disadvantage what you say? President Kabila is highly unpopular probably not that. Well, come a poll people now set up with his long time of ruling in the power and the because the county is still a porous today as we can see, you know, seventy percent people now feel leaving the tonight. So even though the content has reached resources about this long time ruling by the Coppula all happened the generated any economic development for the people there. So that's why I think he lost those popularity long ago. You said it's all this country has rich resources like mineral. So why do you think those rich resources has failed to generates wealth for the for the general public? You said it's because of mismanagement economic mismanagement, but is. Is that a fault of President Kabila? Oh, yes. There are lots of reasons for this tragedy. You know, the democrat you Longo, it's a typical tape. We call is a a purse of this whistles rather than the plastic of the resources those races. So we could name the luck. I like a longtime the conflict you'll see ever since his father working the roar. And then county within the tails, and then there too many people into ethnic group as many as two hundred more accurate city with people that party go even this time around to lots of party has registered allowed to name the person the tenets, then this not to unify as this, you know, Puncak identity all national identity. It's cool. There's different ask Nick group identity. Not to reach concord. I think. Go and a lot of like international players playing wrong in the u turn rabble forces still fighting he the northeast area actually the lesson because he law himself all the entire of those things in the in the peak Wasser, he's a cat coat area, you remove areas beyond he's those the rebels as well antique forces. They just moving around by themselves. So a lot of problem, I think to input cons together. So that's megaton pay or is in trouble as a reach the media coverage of this election. I notice of there are as many as twenty seven or twenty eight candidates for this race. So Dr her in in a Cup of eastern cities of the country. Like, I said voting didn't take place on Sunday due to insecurity. So what do you think are some of the biggest sources of insect? Curiosity in that country. Our? As for the government who postponed of election in certain areas. While if they Kilty another is like Evora profiles again in some area. So, but it is also the point that has been happy against by those opposition parties, they are using the government. They this is another technique flying to postpone the lasting find pick the power Hugh in their hunt. So let's now I don't see those a very like to authority tactics. Tactics resources comes very comb teacher of what's going up. We all know pressure. I see is a big to. One of the biggest ones are you the African continent. So sedation is also later sump it shoe affor-, whoever who will become the new president's can you put your fingers on on a Cup of main challenges that he will have to cope with right away. Yeah. I think no matter who coming out as the practice and things that you needed Chinese for him. Well, the house will get rid off. Yeah. Those tales five maybe we see during the campaign before and the Durie, and then there are lots of violence happening. So after the election results three tell me out badly lately. Other losers decibels, we're not satisfied with this. They will feel angry outrage to develop a, you know, boarding south on the stage. And then how little preventing those wide thing. Tommy out. This is number one. I think for anyone becoming the pressure that of course, there near the music huger Welby, the tiny of economic development the halt who make the people you'll ninety again and call to maintain goes the ability like hall of call who is rabble forces. She's northeast of part. Of the county and the house who makes people those those com Don than they can y'all. So those are the Chinese for the comes. So presidents could be actually has promised. The are Congo's forest smooth transition of power since the country's independence from I guess from Belgian in the year nineteen sixty so I think based on what you what you said. Just now, that's that's very difficult to achieve that's unlikely. Oh, yeah. Of caught. Well, they reveal the history of the I will say this time to has suffered a law on conflict the in the people people war, even the father of the team president villa? Husino kill the one he was. Any of those previous laughing has entry top. Who is the wireless. Still seeing a lot of stairs wiler. So this has a cost those big warriors. So way has very courses those up to mystic new about the thing and the results of the election and the coming day. Dr Who and pain from Chinese Academy of social sciences speaking with my colleague, ding, hone commu up Jonah's Burs numbers are expected to fall to lowest level since two thousand. You're listening to today's stay with us. I am on Koch idea. I teach at the university in DEA today has organized programs and it on bringing in a lot of views from all over. It is an extremely good platform for information and analysis, and I wish all success in the future. Welcome back. This is today. I'm joing. Several Chinese demographers say the number of children or in China last year appears to have dropped to the lowest level in almost twenty years. They expect the funnel figure. You later. This month will be about fifteen million babies. This is about two million fewer babies those were born in twenty seventeen it's been three years since China implemented, the two child policy with media reports suggesting the number of second children born account for about half of all births for more Jonah's demographic situation and as impact on Konami joining us life as John John professor of population and labor comics of the Chinese Academy of social sciences screaming professor, June couldn't even buy. So the the official figure of last year is coming this month was your evaluation of last year situation really going to see a two million drop when? It comes to the number of newborns compared with twenty seventeen. Well, first of all, I think we still waiting for the official figure coming out. Right. And before that, I couldn't say anything, but it is not the pri- to say there's less baby. Boy, and in the year two thousand eighteen than the previous two years because first of all most babies born in eighteen two thousand eighteen way, already know in before right because the pregnancy happened two months earlier, and so there's a estimation. In in the I actually in two thousand seventeen we will we would say a drop in the birth numbers. And all. Hello today. I think almost one hundred percent healthcare delivery, go. I think I believe while they got they have all we get is the truth men and not only the husky delivery. But also, I pregnant women though woman we'll have a record as devilish as a house foul to know, how fell establishing healthy though. So I I believe the number will be solved. Well, the implication of this the job in the. Member. I think the league is that the potential of tell the Barron released by the universal to child the policy way think as being fully almost plea released. So I really I think the job is back to so called normal. Okay. I yes. Please continue. Yeah. Because way, I think in the twenty th century, we observe a low fertility in China. And I don't believe. A large publication the behavior of large population. We'll chin southern me because of policy change saying we will compete that logo low fertility years, but it has been suggested that China could face a turning point of population grows. And so even describe as a demographic crisis. What's your take on the general picture? I don't do that the crisis. And I don't think the turning point. Oh, I I don't know what what is turning times. But we are not going to negative a growth. Yes. It is too early to say that and and and also way already projected that they will come. So his not surpri it has not a crisis. I think that's a natural rule. And and the way are going. We're going to go through that. And we've seen that the local governments have roll out incentive policies to encourage people to have more babies how you look at those badgers. Are they affective enough? Well, I think let's dive all here is from problem in the logic. Right. And because now we have the policy universal to child which means that the the couple of the only have to try to children. All right. And and the other way people talking about the encouraging more birth. But, but this is I think some people only the logic. I think the first of all when need to let people make the decision by themselves. How many babies they are going to have and one they're going to have? And and then we talking about to support their decision tool full feel their expectation. Right. So I I don't think I rebel. I recall in China. I recall while two children. You've actually somebody. They don't want to have child, and they're somebody won't have. They think. Yeah. Yeah. So I think the first step is let people decide. Yamana children. They won't. Yeah. But the talking about to support that. Yeah. I think you're right. That people should have the right to decide helm any babies they can have. But the problem is that a city dwellers now they have been complaining about a high living costs, and why did you not have a second child to postpone pregnancy or not having a child at all? So what kind of economical social policies should be prioritized like housing or healthcare elderly care or what else? Well, I think we talked about that is the large package, actually, it's a talent to every country in the big cities. So if you're talk to couples in a small town, I think they're concerned maybe different from the couple's in Beijing Shanghai. Right. So I think that that's a, but his also role in the high cost the high competition place couples always Heiser Tate to have war children because it is very high cost to the to afford. And and I think well, we can do something. I think at least we have a large base to to make improvement to make this a sack you more friendly to to children to couple of having children. And and I think that a lot of things to do. But but not only just to providing babycare, so so everything and also I think some issue inside family is key. Because today a lot of child care are actually on the show the of of the manga. And this is a problem though. I think a lot of things need to change. And but I change all the holiday, I think it very important. He, and I also I of the new some place some places in China already one child norm everybody, well one tell is good enough. I think this is not some these coloring we need to change because one time is not enough. That he will have different thoughts on this issue. But just now that we might Manatt facing democratic demographic crisis now, but how could be the what could be the long-term impact of of a fall in birth rate. Either critical slow on China's economic and social development. Well, I think way we should know where underestimate the consequences. I'm challenges of that. Because a low birth rate means fast aging, the age structure of the population. We'll become older and older and older. And you've we're looking at the world the other countries, I'm places these already present a big challenge for social economic development. So we we need to learn lessons from the other countries in talking about, you know, policies encouraging burst. But there's also some experiences and lessons. We learn. Yeah. A lot. Thank you, June Jin, professor of population and labor economics of the Chinese Academy of social sciences. Let's take a short break here. Coming back. His the other news segment. You're listening to today. Stay with us. Hello. This is Michael Jong greetings from Los Angeles. The Golden State of California. Thank you today for making me part of your team. I truly enjoy the debates we had and look forward to many more in the years to come. You're listening to today. I'm joing now joining us for other news segment as my colleague, Patrick, Flannery. Joing two women did something in India today that women haven't been allowed to do for hundreds of years they walked into a Hindu temple this happened in the southern state of Kerala, India century old ban on women visiting temples is deeply rooted in the country's social and political culture and the rule of plus two girls who were of menstruating age that's between ten and fifty years old, something even more unusual happen. When these women both in their forties walked into the temple today in the government decided to protect them, but India's main opposition party called this. Treachery warned that the government will pay the price for violating custom. So why was there a ban in place on women entering Hindu temples? While it turns out there isn't one violent protests broke out last summer after India supreme court order to thirties to allow women to enter the temple. But even with that ruling protesters have. Tacked women outside the temple conservative Hindus say women of menstruating age defile the temper of temples inter shrine. So what we're witnessing now is that growing rift between religious tradition and progressive society in India yesterday before these two women entered the temple five million women formed a human chain called the women's wall. Didn't get a lot of press. But it stretched for almost four hundred miles with protesters gathering across national highways throughout India. How is India evolving regard to tweet mint of women slowly at a snail's pace. Discrimination against women, though, is obviously a global problem is not limited to this part of the world it, for instance, in Britain one in every three mosques bans, women social media project. Led by British Muslim women is pushing mosques to open their doors to everybody, and it wasn't until last summer in Saudi Arabia that women were allowed to drive, and of course, in the United States. Congress has yet to pass laws that promote gender equality salaries remain unequal for women there. Okay. Let's move on. Our next story. Driverless cars might want to hit the brakes Arezzo China for two years. An uprising has been intensifying in the city of Chandler that's outside Phoenix. And that's where the self-driving tech company way MO is testing driverless vans. Angry people there have carried out two dozen attacks on these vehicles. According to police what they're doing slashing tires throwing rocks at the vans, and that's not even the worst of it citizens are rebelling against the rise of a I in an atmosphere that is now regularly pitting man against machine humans are now attacking robot. They are according to the New York Times some of tried to run vehicles off the road one police report detailed how a woman screamed at one of the vans to get out of the neighborhood. Another report of a man pulled up next to self-driving van in threaten the passenger. Who was an employee of Waymo? And the worst case was of a man who pointed a gun at one of the cars, you wanna kill the I that's right. So why are people in the zone town? So emotion. Oh about a Thomas vehicles. When when you start to think about it. These are the first people to experience this new world on a daily basis. So they're the ones interacting with driverless cars on the roads. No one else really is. So there's an element there of sympathy. I we should probably have for them because you have to views on that. It's a savior or that it's the enemy, and there's something that feels a bit distortion Orwellian about people revolting against robots, but certainly threatening the lives of Waymo employs is going far as about the people in the US should accept a accept data. More of these vehicles will appear soon. Yeah. I it's it's going to happen Ford. Ceo said the market for a Thomas cars is going to hit ten trillion dollars. That's half the size of US GDP. That's just an enormous number and Bloomberg BusinessWeek reported this week also that over the next two decades, or so there's going to be thirty million of these self driving cars on the roads. And that's why makers and tech companies like Waymo or moving fast. Even if it's driving us all. A little mad. Okay. I think I remember one of our guests once mentioned in our show that humans invented mousetraps so cows jobless and they become pets. So if a I took the job of humans way could become the passive robots. It sounds that way. And I have to say, I think if I were one of the folks in Arizona, I would would be on their side a little bit not to the point where I'm threatening use of force. But I think if I saw driverless car going by it might make me bit nervous. Yeah. But being pad. It's not that bad. Maybe. It's a little bit better than the self driving cars taking over to fast. I think thank you attract all the time. We have for this edition of today.
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We are here to talk about the list of zelda diminish cap made by capcom vance a game that somehow as much as i love elba i had never played this game for a longer advan. Probably maybe an hour. I just never could sit down and keep playing this game. When i had the few times i had tried it on emulate until this week. I mean. I think that's accurate though to be fair like it takes a while to get going and by gig going. I mean it has a lot of cut. Scenes for a gameboy game even in advanced game mature a little more story. Heavy all right when we're gonna get started wintering. I get started. It does have a very slow beginning at the few times. I've wanted to try to play it in dip back into it. I've been like Don't really want to get through all these cut scenes right now. I never even got. I never got to the first dungeon. I played it before that was before we go too far. I should say where you have a patriotic for. As little as a dollar you can vote in our patriotic and you can decide what hormone we're going to cover next month. You only have a little bit of time. Left the witch poltergeist reanimator or nightmare. St delta revive forgot. No campus i was saying. Are you saying like you are right. It doesn't get going right away. I think that's what's much. Turn me off when i played this game before because i remember shrinking down by never got the first dungeon any other time that i'd tried this game before. I never even got anywhere near as low shrunk down then before so i honestly i. Maybe it's just something with the game because in two thousand five. I remember picking it up. I remember getting to oslo shrinking down going all. This is a really cool mechanic. Like i like this turned it off and didn't play it until You know a month ago. You played it before heaven. 'cause you put it in your top ten game hand held us. We did that top ten long time ago. yeah. I played it before. But i might memory. My memory always gone. yeah. I haven't actually played this at e three back in four and i think i i. I'm trying to rack my brain on. What what they showed. I think it was a dungeon. It was probably the gust Jar dungeon and then it was probably some challenges. The honestly what it probably was usually those nintendo demos where about two levels apiece for zelda games. So that's when. I i played it which is weird now. In retrospect because it came out before four swords adventures that were the demo. I played was before four swords adventures. So i wasn't really familiar with or the four sword which play a lot into this game and those were non existent entities. When i first saw it as demo so that that was my first kind of taste of it for this game then i pull and then i got it maybe two or three months. It came out after the ds. And so i played. And i was like yeah. I mean that's cool. But i want the new hotness. The three games on my ds and playing super mario sixty forty s. I don't need these boring. Super nintendo games again so i ignored it. Really wait which is a really poor logic. But i just yeah and also like at first blush. The game says like there's only four sections there's only four elements to get knowing this game looks super slide and i just kind of like that turned me off for some reason so i never finished it at the time. I wasn't turned me off of this game. I just wasn't interested for some reason. And i love zelda. Like i think maybe i had a thing against toon link. He even though this does not tune linke looks kind of like tune links. Maybe that's turn me off it. There's a there's a lot going on. I think overall like every single thing that. I thought going into that time that i had been tired of zelda. I don't think comes true in this game. So coming into this like my my my beefs with zelda games and i played a lot of them at this point in five would have been a few years after wind waker which i really did enjoy. Plus the oracle games or ages in seasons and link's awakening linked to the past and carina and majora the zelda at the time had gotten a little stale to me like you just kind of like a metro game. You're looking our. There's the hook shot thing. I know that's gonna come into play our there's water. I'm sure i'm going to get the flippers Like those kind of things like oh. That's bowen aero challenge. Get the bone marrow. I'll hit the enter. This games credit. All four of its main items. Don't fall under those categories. They're all new to the to the not. I guess the rocks kind but even that they're all different. I mean the game is trying to mix up what types of puzzles you would have so. It's not as stale and it's not feeling like every single zelda game you played before it because that's where i started getting turned off with like twilight princess for example. You know it is a good game but like in the early parts are just like. Oh i know the i know i'm going to have metro venial back to these things and i know what they are remained but like the gus jars like really cool and i. I found my old preview. I wrote in two thousand four like the gust jar. This is a complete different zelda item. I'm sorry i'm super excited to play with this thing. 'cause it kind of like it's like a gun but also a vacuum and it's cool so i don't know i don't know where i was at where i didn't wanna finish it but i don't know at the time i was kind of like having a beef with zelda and now i'm like looking at like it has nice charming any different enough like it's the stuff is not just doing the dark world over again and to kotel off of that. I think you bring up a really good point during that time. There were so many zelda games and then when you started another one you immedi oil. Yeah you recognize things going to do this. It's not too much different but you know almost twenty years later and you're like picking up like this kind of reminds me linked to the past like there. There's like you that nostalgia feeling that you want you know as we get older you want that nostalgia and it. It's it's a different zelda now than it was when it was over saturated in the market at that point. I mean there's been like one classic new to these elvis since this with link between worlds the not counting the games all ardglass their different enough to not feel like this like a classic overhead over the heads. Zelda there's this linked to the link between worlds and that's it for the last fifteen years almost seventeen now. I haven't i've world's Game i love that one We'll get to why. I like that one more than this one at some point. I know that Never played phantom hourglass or spiritual Every yet i hadn't played any of those. So i guess i know what i'm going to be doing one day. I was like in this game in. This game starts off though. I i can't be the only person so it starts off a link waking up with zelda comes to get him and he goes to a fair and they go underneath a bell and then when they have to go to see the ceremony ceremony thought ready yet so before you can go through. She has to go. Look at a bunch of things. And all i could think about was current trigger and marl. That's all that went through my head how she couldn't go to the right away. 'cause you had wait. Oh absolutely okay. As soon as she ran. I was like And then i saw them off. Start and then you start playing around. You're like a second. do i have to make decisions correctly here or somebody in a trial later. That's actually where my mind went. I'm like i got like two anxious about about this fair for the zelda game. It's just like throwaway but for this game at least nali krona. I just thought that was That's such a cool thing. I'm like this has to be intentional. Just can't be somebody like doing it. And it really made me laugh. Because i love greg or so anytime i see things. I also think it's interesting that this game the whole villain in this game is not gannon or gannan offer anything to do with that is completely new villain that i think this is first game or did four storage already. Come out before the so so so the actually had two appearances. There's four swords adventures for the gamecube came out summer of four on which is the villain but actually he's being trumpeted again endorphin organ so that doesn't come into play here and then he's in the four swords game. Which was the multiplayer mode of linked to the past. For your gameboy advance. So that was where you could link together for gateway vance's together if you had your link to the past cartridges. And that was the first time. You multiplayer zelda I think three or four dungeons in it and vodka was the villain of that. So i don't want to. I want to say that sounds about right bam. Yeah so this is his third appearance actually possibly last on if you don't count like spirit icons or from Smash brothers to me. I didn't know that. Yeah hitting your a wicky notes all the way. I'm like okay. Well if you're going to be prepared dickey also twenty teams smash brothers ultimately. I knew he was in the to force game. But i didn't realize came out because i actually own the game. Q four sword. I played it once. You didn't like it and put it back down have never touched it since highlight game k. Mart so i was just happy. I have it the long ago i bought that game. Kmart okay so to me. Body was all new. Because i hadn't really touched any of those. I barely even know what. That's four swords. Adventures thing is that you're talking about with forgave. I really wanna play it. But i don't think you have to have multi player in order to play it. I don't you it's multi-player definitely. It came out. I think they also reissued it for ds. I free at one point. Also when you can play it online briefly. But i don't i can't remember because it was. You had to have the link. Cable the four pronged link cable to be able to or you Plug them to play for player. We actually did this at least three before. I saw four swords adventures and this game gap. As the only time i've ever played it and i can't remember if you needed to have four cartridges. Also or if it you could do download play. we're only one percent of a cartridge. I'm not sure about that. Probably game way of aunt y'all had to have cartridges from yes. What started the download plan or era you. Technically with mario kart advance. You could play it. Everybody had to be shy guy So okay never mind so so. I don't remember Y'all right into games. My mom found on all of our plugging social media. Thank you can. You can correct us. I love that i. It was fun though. It was fun to play multiplayer. Zelda and and this is not that but this is the second gb zelda on the plate. So also i plainly to passive spam avantis very cool and in the manga. He's also very cool villain. If i i read that a few years ago forgetting there's a main they wrote to for all of us. It's pretty good. It's actually pretty good on my list someday to read. I just never had met never happening. It doesn't take long before. Minneapolis looking the first twenty minutes when you get So the whole thing is shows up he breaks chest. He turns zelda into into stone statue. So your whole thing. Is you have to go figure out a way to bring back the sword at bro in order to break the curse and bring her back and she has yet to find the minute now. It's like the whole kind of like stick with this game. Is that the ministry little miniature very miniature little alvis that live in the woods also good word hotels little up utions but yeah that's from gulliver's travels it's interesting because like that's the second that's a different world in this game. Is that you shrink down to the side and you go inside places versus the dark role. You would have had an linked to the past or the future inauguration of time. So it's it's interesting to see something different. And i that kind of turned me off at for 'cause i i might have gotten to where you get as little to talking hat jumps on your head when you meet him. And i was like the fucking. My plane can't remember. Well yeah i mean. This is also the third capcom zelda game after oracle they were only for the game boys capcom in nintendo made the oracle of ages and oracle seasons ages had three different time periods jump between and then Seasons had four different seasons. You a joke between. I think even used like tree stumps so is very very similar to diminish cap Nc's ended up. But this is the first one. This is also kind of weird for me. Because this is the first gameboy zelda that actually takes place in high rule. 'cause the other ones took place like link's awakening was on the island. In oracle seasons in ages were like on holidays roman lebron a- and you know this is actually like a weird to see like in high rule. Do not like others this whole secret world still going in on high rule. But you do the minute capstone stuff. You find these little people and everything's tiny in which is cool because then all the villains end up being like giant versions of normal zelda scrub enemies which is really cool. Which ashley worked for me. Yeah it's cool. I wasn't sure about the whole shrinking down at first. Because when i tried it before my very brief time playing the game. I didn't like the way it fell for some reason but like it worked. Okay the first dungeon that you do is your shrunk down which i thought was interesting the forest. You know it's a forest ruins to yet yeah i think it's really cool. I think it's the art styles really cool. There's and it seems like they're kind of showing off like you go through areas. Where like everything's kind of like honey. Extra the kid shrunk down. The art is really like well drawn. And what really pretty and it's cool it. It's fun to see these things. I do agree though. When you're like on the over world and like oracle seasons and You're restricted like just like a four square area that you can go in when you're tiny you can't really go anywhere And you can't just like explore the map with it so it feels very restrictive when you're in tiny mode that part of it. What did you think of that. I don oh i loved. I love the small shrinking down. And then like you said the honey. I shrunk kids where all of a sudden you know. The normal chu jelly. That is just a one hit out of your way. You don't pay attention is now a boss narrow it down a in. Just i don't know a. I feel devious like from like all right. I'm sneaking through this guy's like shoe shop now or i'm going on the mayor's cabinet. There's just like this little deviousness to it and then just seeing even though nothing changes you know like hey. I'm in the shop. But now i'm in this shopsmall in you know. They're not they're not doing anything they're just standing there. But you feel like at any moment you could wreak. Destruction can't you. They don't even notice you which is also kind of fly. No one else to say unless somebody's trying to hit you. Yeah yeah but yeah. I love the little giant shooting that you fight. It feels to me like if they had made this on super nintendo they would have been using the super fx to chip like in She's island what to do these effects. You know like that seems to be like that would have been like we've got these giant bosses than you can fight and they kind of wobble funny with like a weird geometry might yeah she's island Part of it too. Okay your point. I didn't think about that. I mean i was a little off with the. I think because you get the first new item that we mentioned earlier the jar the gust jar jar gusts. Yeah with the chattan. I don't care for this item. That much at. I grew on me as a game progress. But like at first when you have to use it to just suck up things once in a while or like grabbing mushroom in that way you can jump off or you can grab mushroom enemies that you fight and make them you can hit him with sort. I wasn't so sure about it. When i first started like okay but it. It grew on me of the game progress. Like it's an interesting interesting first time. You get a new item which is good too because you new zelda items took me a little bit to get like you know into it like okay I like this. I wasn't really sure. I but it definitely did. It grew on me especially in dungeon. Like you don't you have to use it for the final boss in this dungeon the big you fight a giant green shoot you which is like the normal enemy from wind waker and you fighting this game once here and there was interesting. I i'm kind of into fighting enemies regular enemies. But now they're a boss because you're shrunk kind of okay with you. I think overall. I probably would've liked mini bosses like mid dungeon mosses more than like the final boss of each dungeon. But that's just like that. That's a because. I like to see you know new crazy things for your into your dungeon boss but i think that's. That's a tiny quibble on my part. I do like though that gusts are because through the whole dungeon. You're seeing like this weird like white powdery stuff. That's just kind of like hard to walk through whatever but you know okay fine and then you get the gust jar and you're like oh i can do something with that now and that's a real hard thing to do when you've been playing like i think probably ninth or tenth zelda game at this point to really get that kind of like oh i can do this okay excitement because because i play metro plays elder. Mike okay yeah all right once i once. I see those cracked blocks. I'm gonna give my bombs. And i'll deal with it but re that thought in my head is is rare in his elder game. So is happy to see. That game also had a bunch of hidden walls to blow up. That didn't have cracks in it too by the way. Dow- cbs to that. You're i only because guides but yeah yeah like my fifth time like walking through dungeon mike. Oh between the two skulls where there's no crack okay. yeah. I would have definitely out that. We already like throwing the skulls and cracked them and they didn't respond when i walked back there. Something okay. well now. We're whether these stupid skulls that i through the guy told me bomb. I didn't like that in this game. I don't doesn't do it in the first dungeon. But i didn't like the fact that it was there. It is is a good job of kind of splitting because you have to dungeons where your small and three or four dungeons where your big. Which i think was That was a good idea too. Because the whole idea's that you're trying to go back and find these elements that have that they seal. And then you can rebuild the sword. So that's why. The i go to your your shrunk which which is a cool idea story wise. That is a really. It's a. it's a really cool idea to have that that elemental source. Because it's one what you wanted on when he came at the beginning of the game he's like i won this tournament so i can get this awesome sword and then we don't have the charges that you're gonna kill and then link is rebuilding the bodies behind the scenes especially in the manga. He's like yes. Let the link build the sword for me so that i can have it but it's cool because you start. I don't think you get well. We'll get to the elemental sort and why that's even cooler later. Sorry i was always amused. I the maybe this is the thing whatever you would see fricken like little the little minutes like one time one. I'm holding a needle as a as a staff or something and it just amused me and made me smile. Battles thinks is really cool in this game. This is like the farthest we ever got like with two d art for zelda like we covered on my on my show That was a game. We cover like super princess peach and we don't really get thirty two bit. Mario and zelda sprite based stuff that often that kind of color detail that like everything. Is you know sixteen. It stops there or then we go like three d sprites. The way like worlds is and this is. This is like the most color rich. I think you ever get linked. Maybe i guess foreshores adventures counts but this seems like it's the same model so like everything super detailed and i diminish can do super cool things like that and you can have tons of huge spreadsheets like just memory wise. You couldn't have had in the super nintendo era so that all that stuff really bespoke sprites. Make me really happy to see in this game. I do have one question about the spirits. What the hell was diminish holding. Because i can't be the only one. I thought they were just dragging around a bloody butcher blade right. I didn't catch until i wanted to complete some of this but yeah yeah like because you mentioned one having a needle i'm like well. They all had butcher knives. That's supposed to be detailed. I'm assuming i have no idea. I mean i mean. I could see it. I mean they are little. There's lots of things that can kill them so they have a little knife ready to murder. I mean they're all over the damn place to everywhere you go. You find little minutes villages because there's a lot of them they are all over the place living around these this world at. Isn't that safe especially when you're little. It also has a cool concept that there are. There are no monsters in this world until after body breaks the chest open for all the monsters. Come from school concept. Yeah it makes a world very safe in the not safe. As i did get annoyed with the second the second area mount cash store that really was pissing me off and i i had to go there because at i died a bunch trying to figure out what to do. I mean i had saved as trying not to use trying to play zone more. Legit 'cause zelda but oh man. I don't was just getting really annoyed with mountain. I kept dying at first a bunch of times and i kept getting lost and it took a while to figure out for me to finally find the defined the ratings that you get that let you climb up the rock. You're just weird to me issues. Generally yeah i think i think this is where the game starts making things very particular and you have to do things in a certain order or else they don't you can't do them in that. Then this game is not very open. I think like you have to do this it. Lets you go pretty far before you realize you screwed up as another thing like i mean. I don't know if you've covered metro fusion on this show but like metric one of those. I i like that game. Because it's like you're stuck. You're only in these four rooms in the solution has to be in these four rooms whereas you're in the big giant mountain like you got pretty far now you messed up because you forgot to bomb like one wall. That wasn't there that you didn't see. Oh or that stupid thing where you have to. You have to walk down this long pathway to get the hot springs water to then carry somewhere else in the game for as much as as low tells you crap like the desert in silent about other things the water. Fetching quest. I hated so much. Because i got the water and then you know you go and talk to the little missionary like oh this waters for this being waters for this being in there is a will beam right next to him so i am throwing water on this being like all right. Well maybe it's the other one. And i go back and throw water on the bean. I'm like i'm stuck. I don't we. What do i need and i probably spent a good thirty minutes going back and forth before i was like all right well in the game has literally it has used to select as as low for hint it wait. There's only like eight buttons on the gpa. And they waste to this like about non ask as low for him and my okay. Won't clearly this is like the hit button. I'm used to like mid twenty ten nintendo where it's just gonna tell me the solution after a point that i think we should get the fourth element and i'm like shot that that was my health and needs to know about this being puzzle on but he'll stop me to be like. Hey i think lever is something you can pull like when i walk into the room like and i'm like you could've let me figure that one out bro. But then when you get when you get these like being thing you're like no. I'm not gonna tell you anything about this. It's very inconsistent. You took me awhile. Because i kept getting the bluewater going. They're dumping i'm like. Why isn't the guy. I e green water All okay yeah. That was annoying. I really did not like the mountain. The mountain was turning me off a lot with this game but then like this was the most frustrating part from me of the entire game just as one little part once we got past this. I was more into the game. Once you get into the town that's up you're like little mining town diminish where you you tell you. Hey you know we'll go fix your sword. You don't miss the open door to let you go to get to the second element like it worked. Once i got there i was finally. I don't remember having issues with the second dungeon. The fireplace it annoying ni-. I completely agree with that like the mountain. I think once you get through the mountain the game opens up in a way where you feel like you're not being forced to do so much anymore where it's not as linear a even though they're at this point it wasn't but like when you're walking through the town now you know you have more interactions like there's just a lot more freedom and when you're exploring after the mountain you're like okay okay. I can Starting to see some things pick up. It was just totally. You had mine cards. That went way too fast. Would even on me like didn't affecting gameplay why he grad alex jones either like this is stupid but this is funny yet but the mine cart is definitely 'cause linked doesn't say anything and we all know that like classic link scream and you have that with him like almost flying out of the mine cart it. I probably did it like back and forth like three times. Because i was too busy. Laughing was actually pretty amusing. I also surprised with the dungeon. Because you know your first engineer miniature in this dungeon you're not your regular size link running around and you do shrink down periodically in this dungeon to solve puzzles. There was a me and it was a fun. I mean you get a new item new zelda item which i it's okay you get the you get some kind of staff. I forgot what it's called. Oh now cain of potch yup. It's okay it doesn't do a whole lot. it's okay it's really dumb when you when you first given to it though because this is all about the game proposition really. Hey we get the new weapon. The new item of this dungeon. What can do can slip things. Oh okay all right. Well i'm like. I did see a mine car. That was that was flipped over earlier. So maybe i should go do something with but it but it allows you also fill in holes in. You can like jump up Clifton stuff so there's every a lot of the items multipurpose which is cool. But i like. Yeah could flip things over this really scraping the bottom of the barrel here So what. I what. I do like about the item system and how you get new stuff is it. It tells you like it's base thing like okay. Yeah decide him. Flip stuff over but then you go back you know a few moments narrows a boss that you were trying to like bomb so you could flip over hit or not a boss but like an enemy annually. Oh well that'd makes things easier like with the the gusts jar you know. It doesn't tell you you can suck up those spider webs but as soon as you do. You're like oh okay. And it's little tiny. Oh okay moments that i really enjoy like with the items doesn't it doesn't hold your hand but like it puts you in a position where you're going to figure it out and it makes you feel smart. Yeah it also gives you portals in this game. Two for the dungeons which i really like. I mean summit will give usually about two portals one about midway through in one at the end of like right before the the boss which is nice because again this is handhelds. We had that you play it more short bursts so you could just you know stop. Okay save your game okay. I can go right back the dungeon now and go finish the boss or something of that nature. I've liked that. I liked the factor. That's their right. Yeah i mean they had the mid boss portals in link's awakening in probably also games. I would imagine but the two are really nice. It also makes it good. Because i think a lot of the zelda games. They started getting to the point where the boss dungeon was right at the entrance. So you did if you died. You didn't act like truck it all the way through the dungeon again to get to the boss again. So that's really nice about the like the the second red bortles usually right outside the boss which is really really nice I'm glad that they just like screw. Isn't it also makes the architecture you can have it like long and winding to get there and it doesn't have to collapse back down on it. I really wish this was inaugurated time in the shadow temple. I spend too much time on the stupid ghost ship trying to get back to the boss with two hands to kill me three shots. And that's why i've never been oracle or accoring at the time but It isn't a game. But i don't like to go ship. It takes three minutes timed it so safe. Stay here for. I know this is when you just save you for the by. No i now i actually i had to do for the octa rock later He was the only one that gave me a lot of trouble. We'll talk about him in a bid it was just it was just like it's an interesting dungeon that you're in a mind like it didn't i kinda liked it. I was getting knocking on country vibes just because of the mind cartoon like that. But that's what my brain goes to. I found out early because that that has never left me but it was it there were there. Were some annoying parts like one thing about the game that that annoy me see tons and tons of chess. I'm like okay. Maybe it'll be a key and all these chester's have which we haven't talked about yet tons and tons of kim stone pieces and in some cases are these different part to be stoned that you get there three different colors what they do. Is you use them with random people at you will find throughout the game where you can trade with kind of and you you when i should say try us you put their you combine your half of the stone with their half of his on. You have the right kind thing. An include things will happen. The game tells you we'll show you like little. You'll get a door will open up. A hole opened up somewhere you can go get rubies or seashells or something else. And they're everywhere. In this game you get kim's pieces and part of it was cool. Pardon me like. I'm like i'm trying to find a key every chess. I hope it isn't a key. I needed him. I'm getting irritated like it's cool. That is there. But sometimes i was like this. Yeah go ahead. Oh god jinx This was besides the seashells This was the other part that i just. I probably missed out on a lot. Because i eventually got tired of standing waiting to see or just randomly going up to people talking and then hitting l. I know i got like a few heart pieces in. I think guide you know got like some cool stuff like light arrows. But for the most part like i wasn't looking so i know i missed out on some stuff. Yeah i i. I when i played this game back in five. I didn't like the kingston's. Because one i misunderstood what they were. I thought that there were one hundred different kim stones and there was one hundred different people and you had to have that exact same. Ken stone in a match with them. Which i think that. There's there's probably only i think by ten different variations on the kim stones like it was like three different green ones so you collect multiples at the same time because i thought like there's no way i'm going to be able to find the one random green one and then talk to this one random green person so like why am i going to bother so i just like tapped out of it immediately Back in oh five. It's not really the case. I misinterpreted that. But i like that is trying to give you something to do in the dungeons. That isn't when your wallet full. Which mine was the entire game to have like a chest as like. Hey here's one hundred rupees. This is worthless to me this this this means nothing so either. You don't have chests or you get like that thing like our get a kidney stone and then when you rolling the town may be concerned matching with people and then did that kind of thing like we talked about in sob- laser where you kingston with somebody and there's something on the map. Appears like we'll go check that out and see what it impacted. But i'm like i'm not walk into that stupid Swamp area again. I'm not going up that mountain again. No no i. I saw him out and i'm like that's nice. I'm never go near this mountain. Don't have to own a lot of the secrets in this game. Like you just now like there are lots of secrets in this game that. If i wasn't using the guide i would not have found any of them because like there are tons of like i got the bigger. They got bigger wallet. But it's secrets that i would not have found normally if someone didn't tell me okay. Go do this and go do that. I don't even remember the hell. They are one. The bombay ave is on the mountain. There's a there's a sign says. Don't don't throw bombs and there's a spot would know cracked wall where you have to put a bomb than it gets buried. It gives you bombed if you throw a bomb in there and tell her that nope. I didn't throw it a silver gold by through a regular mom and then she'll give you more bombay yet. This game is good at teaching you. Life lessons like being honest like hey. Hey yeah or or sharing here. Some of my rupees. I don't need your rupees. But thank you and my personal favorite is when you finally get to unlock the gambling game and you lose his like. Yeah it's a rough. Don't go down this this. I'm like you know what that's good idea. I don't need the gamble anymore. I'm the gambling gaming. This the you talk about figuring gallery with the with the sea shells. No there is well besides that no. There's a store where you go in in. The dude is just like hunched over on his desk. Like hungover and you talk to him and he's like oh you wanna play the game. Let me get ready like the one chest has nothing the other chest will w rupees chose the wrong chest. He just flat out. It's like yeah gambling's rough. And i don't know what else you want me say. Just don't do it. I'm like all right fair cool. Yeah i did not see that. That is cool. Jairo town okay. Yeah not go the town shortly. After i i just want finish up the of course if jinro had all your gun then how we should talk about. I'm there is. I did like the second boss in this game. Lee rock which is like a serpent that comes out of lava that you have to run around him and then shoot his shell with your new staff so that the shell turns upside down stabs him. Then you go in and you run on his head and his gold crystal in the center. I actually i like that. I'm like okay. This is kind of cool. Yeah it's pretty cool it's a. It's a fun. Multi part of villain. I do have a lot of problems in this game with getting around characters quickly but liquid that with them turning but like that. I like the you you do this. And then he turns like a little lane and you got to run up the lane before the lava goes. It's a it's a fun little. It creates a fun. Little sense of urgency. I like it. this isn't fun boss. I enjoyed it was it took me i. I didn't know you could just hit the little fires with your swords always grabbing my gust jar sucking them all up all the time. Even though i found out you can just smack them on. Your really won't learn. Something just just took the hits. I did later on. Stop like screw. There's i'm just gonna beat him real fast but it was like it was actually pretty cool. What i was. you know. We got to use the staff that we just got so the game making the use. A new item. Which again i. I appreciate that and has all the game. Because that's the gimmick and get a new item. We're gonna fight a boss and use a new item. Beat the boss give myself. I expect we. Do you go to the town a lot in this game. Because you you'll just progress the town we're talking about and there's so much stuff in this town. I feel good probably when the bigger towns in zelda game with stuff to do yeah especially considering that it's roughly double the size when you think about shrinking down and after you get the paci. Cain all of a sudden all these pots are now you know little activation stones and this is where this is where i was like. Oh i'm not going to scratch the surface of the scam because like i'm going into everything talking and strained figure out stuff like i'm apt to come back here. Yeah my problem. Is i try to do that right at the beginning of the game in all the like the library in the school like our close. We'll never coming back here and talk to people and like i like Forest time with the minhaj. They'd be like. Hey i'm tiny doesn't it sock. And then he gave me like nobody in the first little Miniature town gave me like anything worthwhile to talk to you. So i just stopped talking to people because this game didn't motivate me to want to talk to people until i started getting the kingston game and i'm like. Yeah we gotta talk to everybody to give me a reason to try to talk to everybody so that but i like it was just. It was a weird delay. It took me a while because this town just kinda sucked it first and then got more interesting as the game went on. It does open up a lot as the game. Progresses like you are right. There's one shot. We have to suck up the the dust with the dust yard and you have to go and find somebody and traded kingston with them and then the new shop person will move in game. I never did that. Yeah there's so many little things like if you if you try to kingston with the mailman a something else like something also happened at the post office as a mini game or something. I mean there's tons of things that happened when you trade kim stones and it makes town even more than what it was. I did a bunch of those. Because it's the guy told me. I wouldn't have known i guess you can walk up to a person and if you hold their something will pop of their head told me you can trade. I just rang. i just ran up. Anyone that looked out of the ordinary hill. I became my solution. There wasn't a great visual fires. A little delay on that cloud though. Yeah and i don't. I didn't have time for that. So if i can hit a button faster than i can wait for cloud. I'm gonna hit a button. Just been like on my map or hit a button and everyone in the area shows up. Okay this is where you not just stand next to a guy like. I don't have time for that. Yeah i probably like you know. This is five. But i feel like this is a prime. You know like Thing like little exclamation points over people's heads just constantly for kingston opportunities especially because as you late in the game. Because i think there's one hundred kids done. I don't remember i've talked to. I don't remember. I talked to you in who fused with later on in the game so no. There's no marking to show you that you've done it or anything either so if you were to use a guide later on and try to get everyone you're not gonna you're gonna you're gonna have a paint of time kinda figure out what the hell you done I do like how you get. The second soared the white sword. Like right after you finished second dungeon they fix up your sources. You didn't get to the car you get the version of akari blade and then you have to go back to the the temple hidden inside the castle to infuse these two elements of the sword and you get introduced to one the other element of this game where you can clone yourself. I thought that was interesting. Concept where you make you make a double of you that you use to hit switches usually or something. But still i guess. Yeah and that's used a lot enforce adventures It's a it's a little more robust in that game Especially as like the single player. But it's cool and the way the puzzles work is that it's part of positioning. It takes a little too long to generate takes four seconds. I timed it. So if you screw up you have to. Do you have to wait four seconds to restart it which is really stupid and i did but i like how you start getting the cadence of this game where it's gonna start saying. You only got two yelling at one doubles for like two links. But like as i do these elements. Get the rest of them. I'm going to have four so it's a good way to like ease you into more complex puzzles as the game goes on and i think that's a really cool idea i. I love the cloning. But there's besides the time it took to activate it which like so as a pain at this point i am mashing are to roll like. I'm getting. I'm getting everywhere fast. I'm just rolling rolling rolling. And then for some reason to cancel out your clone. That you dismayed is our zone is so now. I'm trying to walk. But i'm canceling and i'm like you could have you could map that to l. l. Does nothing else except talk. like why. why would you get muscle memory to roll in. Make cancel right because you have the sense of urgency that like i need to get there fast because this because my little my little dude you're gonna disappear. They can only have the clone. I certain amount of time. So i need a role because like ouaga speed up to get through this and then you cancel out and to the point i mean you would have used to hold out your source for like a sword slash and let it charge up for four seconds as we said and like. I'm standing on these little blocks to make my dudes like you should know. This is what i'm trying to do and make it happen instantly. Like i guess that was part of it is that you had to wait. So since you're waiting you had not get hit. I guess that was part of a strategy or or something of that or the suspense. Yeah i guess it just wasn't the maximum. Well i'm gonna. I'm gonna say that. You know my gameboy advance. That i played this game on had very special button that i could map that just fast forward time a little bit so that that helped me out. You know with shrinking down. 'cause it's shrinking down got old in that little cut scene that it did charging. Yeah yeah no. I would just click a button and you could. You could actually skip it if you press the button again. While you're shrinking shower be yeah guides. We'll skip it too by the way. Yeah the tank speed alteration in this game. Either this game waste your time as low will have a five screen thing of two lines. There's certain things i'm like. I played too much pokemon. So i things like this But but yeah like yeah you are or be. I guess while you're shrinking and it stops in from singing his song doing little bouncing in your tiny again. I knew you could skip it. I didn't know you could skip other stuff though. You can't do that. Get skip other stuff. Now that's my number. I'm saying okay. We taught them something new. You can hit the button and skippy. 'cause i i would watch those the first time it after a while. I'm like i'm done. I can't watch these anymore. They're just too slow well. Because i was trying to like this disguising like a low time or something like it's not the game doesn't look visually different loading that much stuff in fifteen segments to be tiny to be tiny link so weird. Yeah yeah no. I completely agree. It was just annoying. Sometimes we brought up earlier like it wasn't museum how you get the pegasus mood even though like this kind of gives a game like mortals fetch question. You have to go in. Wake up the you'll find the shoe guy but you gotta he's sleeping so you have to go somewhere else to go get an iron to wake him up like i don't mind that game because let me explore more of the world I did get annoyed with the whole library. Quest at one point where you can't get to this minhaj because they checked out the book so you can't get to his room so you have to go and find these three different books in the town and do little stuff for people right. That's that's where the game like really slowed down for me. I think i've used l. the games as i'm doing dungeon stuff. I'm not used to have doing b. s. in like fetch quests like data at two to progress the main story like that's a side thing that i'm doing like the trading game link's awakening in. This is a bad example for like the yoshi doll. And you traded in new blah blah blah. and then. that's how you you get like something extra you're gonna have like. Did you get like the master sword or something like. That's that's what. I'm expecting out of these kinds of things. I don't have to do this. The link's awakening one is a bad example because halfway through it actually becomes like critical like the game like you can't progress farther in the game. So there's precedent in this. But i also think it's like helping people's problems like that shouldn't shouldn't stop me from kellyanne in i'm trying to save the world. I'm not trying to you know. The swamp was a swamp. Annoy me a little bit. When you first give the swamp you have to get the pegasus boots to get through the swamp but in the swamp you have to find three different. Chester have goldkin stone piece in order to open up the dungeon Dad irritated me. 'cause i got lost in the swamp somehow completely and i could not figure out i i was looking. I could not figure what one one of the one of the gold. Kim's don't was there. Some reason. I just was could not i was like what the hell did i do. Yeah that's where helps to buy the eight dollar guy off the internet and have should have all these maps had mine. I had the nintendo power guide. Somebody rip out the world map of it though. But but i had these little tiny amounts and man. The guide had such a hard time writing some of these things like the library. Quest in this. So you're gonna go to this area and then you go back to this area but we're not going to reprint the map between these two pages so you knew. Go back three pages to look at the map for for this next step. Got very confused but yet the the swamp is like i'm not. I'm not feeling this arti also for. I forgot what the kim stone button was because they had you started. And i don't know if the if those statues told me you're supposed to fuse kingston's with him i don't know there's any visuals signifier. I think they do. They just have bad face. I see you guys. Owns makes people happy so i think that was your cue is that they're sad so you wanna make them happy that pressing select on as low. He's not going to tell you that he'll tell you like when you roll new a room like. I think you should pull this lever or you should do this. Do you think you could open that. Treasure chest yeah. I got that part. But he's no help here I i did not known if it wasn't for the guy either. I mean the guy told me what to do. So that's all. I knew but yeah might have been one of those things that i wasn't aware of. I think i got extremely lucky. 'cause i at the beginning every side time. The screen scrolled look the same. It's like oh there's a bridge up top and grass. I have no idea where i'm at. And i think just by sheer luck. I happened to go the right way. And just like oh oh okay and then i had like three golden pieces when i saw those statues and i was like i mean i guess yeah so i got extremely lucky from what it sounds like they do. Have that word balloon thing. But the kingston had any kids up to that point. So i'd forgotten that so. I got completely tricked by this game. I can't be the only one so as you go. Through a swamp you unlock the third dungeon which is the wind dungeon. So you go through this whole. We'll talk more about the dungeon but you go through this dungeon and i had forgotten that you don't actually get a element at the end of the dungeon. You just get the carina because at one point after you get the fourth element you go to the temple and like any only put any puts or you get the water. Hey where's the wind element. I went and got the win element. I completely somehow just wasn't paying attention. I don't know what the hell i was doing. I had no. Where's the window. So we know what the hell the gingrich playing not playing a legit copy of this game. Something like that. I something tells me all like bullshit like an earth down. I think you can't progress or against like aladdin. I know one of the latin roms. That nintendo seated on the internet definitely will stop you up the first world just to fuck with people not a lot of that any more but yeah it was. It's always worry there. I mean. I've never run into that. I just know i've heard of it. I think people get rid of those ron when they just like really fast. It is weird because like the game again tells you there's four elements it puts it on your map and i'm like looking at him. I don't think this is like like the password. There's going to be three. And then i'm going to go to another world. There's five things or something that's probably not the case. Here's something there's only four dungeons which again is like a sales on this is. This is a very slight game. And so it really sneaks in an extra dungeon by their by not giving you the thing at the end of the dungeon. You're supposed to get yours. It was weird like and you do get. It's an interesting dungeon like i. i didn't hate it. I enjoyed it i i. I was like annoyed with it. I at the moment. So i'm i am a fan of these moments. I don't know why. But i really liked them. So all they do they help you dig through dirt that has to be certain dirt you can dig through the game tells you to and that's it but i just thought it was cold linked dig dirt. It had a good animation to it. I'd lay there so much stuff that went through my head. But there's a pete home sketch where he's talking to wolverine us professor x and at one point wolverine goes i got mccalls and so when i was digging all i could just in my head. I got my clough. Only i has no combat though to it which i thought was sad. Yeah i was gonna say. This is the only item where i think it. I never found a second use for it. There's one try just to dig. I tried to hit it. Took a second us for it if you use it when you're standing on a platform to shrink there's a glitch you can do or you can use the claude bounce you off and then bomb yourself through things. So that's that's the second years. But i don't think that was intended. We're pretty sure that's what that's what speed For nice the. The i texted might before the show is key art in my guide of linguistic laws and as lon- hat like drawing. The twombly style looks so good looks so cool. It doesn't bear clauses so cool but yeah i the other thing. I like about the items though like going slightly back. Is that like the classic. Zelda items are not given in the dungeons so they're not the dungeon focus solely got the pegasus boots and the bone. Arrows Right before this when we swamp. And they're not they're not dominating the game but you still acquiring them through the game. I need these reversal. But they're not the focus of your dungeons and i don't think so. I think that that school like you're still getting your classic items in right. But i don't think the moments become like that dominant. They're still pretty dominant in this dungeon and it still has that a homeowner could deal with that wall. Now i think about that at the beginning of the dungeon like it's really cool. I didn't know you could use them for all the ks that i saw all over the damn place until the guy told me right. It's it's cool item. And i like new items and zelda i also was a fan of this boss fight that they fourche away to make you use the moments even though you didn't really like that wasn't necessary but it's it's probably one of my favorite boss holds in this game. It's a giant mechanical statue. Shoot its hands beat. Shut out of his hands than the head will fall down the shrink go inside the head as minister link and then hit a glowing thing glowing column you have to use the and then later on you have to use the moments to dig the glowing column to destroy this big robot. Then you get kicked out. And that's when i get real mad. Zelda boss fights mac and no one is supposed to do here. I just didn't fast. I didn't know kick you out. Because i was a couple times but apparently how cool part like that. It kicks you out. I figured it did. But i thought it would cause i wanna later one dollars taken a that. I couldn't i couldn't find it because they're six columns covered in dirt. And i'm like where's the fuck. Is this thing okay. That's cool. I for some reason. This boss fight really amusing. I don't know why. But it. Just i was really in this. Got me excited. And i don't really know you love those two hand bosses like an illusion guy. That's what it is. maybe. I'd i don't like that one but i want to play games with them. So just give me those flashbacks of that and like nope not a fan. That's a hard boss. I had to start the game at least this boss other hands didn't reactivate if you took too long. Or maybe they do. I don't know on that was really. That was what might panic was like. This is blue hands gonna come back. If i don't get this reading and faster now died my shrinking down. I was like it's gonna come back by the time. I don't shrinking with the fifteen. Yeah yeah that's weird. I remember that animation. I just hit the button. And one way i you know i did roll a lot. Though to fund our only was faster also at one point in the game. I did have a slowdown for no reason at all but because some i'm not sure what the hell happen. Well actually i know what happened. I was i plugged in my controller and my controller was taking the audio and trying to plug the controller for some reason. 'cause i have an a fake xbox controller and it slowed down the entire game for like i went through. Maybe like fifteen twenty minutes. My wait a second. I switched my speakers back and all of them game back normal. We're just thinking though. I was like what. I'm why do i have to play the rest of the game. Like this. want to still doable. But it's like he would swing you. You'd hit the button to swing a swinging. He wouldn't storage for about like half a second full second sometimes he before he for the first time and then he's swing. Okay then he slow down again. I mean you could still play it but it was like this such just because it was just my computer being weird. I wish i was so irritated. When i got the top of the dungeon and there's no wind element and you just get our at the moment later on. I figured out that didn't happen because for some reason my brain just didn't read. It didn't come. i don't know what happened. Didn't comprehend the text by element dame told me. I didn't panic though like you're walking around like wait. A tic denied. Grab the item before work out here. Because i know people can do that will work out without grabbing the heart container. So i'm like. I understand the paranoia like i did. I miss something in that room. Have to walk through the whole thing again. The carina was cool in this game. That lets you walk around the around the world. That's the whole point of it like you have different stones that you would push a different points and then you would unlock a little similar. Didn't mean anything to you because you don't as as i'm still done it like five times. I have no idea. We're looking at it as low every time. It was like that's weird. I'm going to waste three screens telling you now. We got it as low. We got it This is highly a which i like water. I want to say. I like watered under that. I like this water dungeon. who is a good one. I don't like summer annoying but this this didn't make me have to run around and do a bunch of weird shit so it was nice. Well i mean you had the whole library. Quests which i feel like cooking our for me to even get to this and this is this is conceptually. I was like oh well. This is cool like the library. Quest is i get three books that will be put on a bookshelf for this guy so that they can climb the ladder Talked to this dude. Because he's trapped at the top bookshelf. Like that's clever to me but like the amount of effort and the amount of transforming between big and small. It's like this is. This is not what i wanted to do with it. Also i wanna mention in the town. You also see the three goddesses from oracle ages. Noriko seasons there for a scientist. Or something yeah. They're they're in a hotel. You can talk to them. There's some cyclists with them. But i didn't bother but yeah it has the the girl red hair the narrow girl blue hair and the girl green hair that was supposed to be a third game that never got created just in the ladies. I should maybe. I'll go back tim the towel on the right side. I wanna saying one in. I want to stay at the hotel. There is quest for that. But i didn't bother. I didn't care meal down games. A lot of side quests and a lot of involve can stone fusion but there there are tons of side. Quests i also i like the fact that the water droplets so winter to dungeons where you're not small. Now your small again. It was kind of fun i like. How many early room. You see the element that you need but frozen ice so you can't just get it. Yeah i thought that was cool. Plus this dungeon throws you for a loop. You get the bosque like right away when the i guess you. I thought that was cool too. Yeah that really threw me. But i was like. Oh this is fun. I mean ultimately means nothing but it was really. It was a did throw exciting. I liked that this is this is this is a slip slightly ice dungeon though where you slip slide around a lot and a lot of block pushing which don't wash your choosing. Fortunately in this game No one puzzle loved that story up all right. He's on the ice for one for one puzzle to that we don't need i didn't have a. I don't normally like icing game. I didn't have a problem with this one. because it didn't feel too slippery. I feel like lengthen a passes. More slippery when you're on ice and this was just wasn't too terrible dungeon wasn't too long gets midway through you. Get the you fight a repeat of a boss a giant blue this time and that's getting lantern shortly after the dow was annoying. Because it's the same boss. You just have to suck them with the dust jar until he falls over but he just to go with electric so you have to wait. Then he's amid boss at this point at least so i just don't like reuse boston but he was blew out waiting for a red. Wanna show up to in this game. You know one of the big silver spiky one. I would have been actually. Both things were annoying. He boomerang them and then they were less annoying. Think you're right. I did buy boomerang in this game. You have to buy it for three hundred rupees. Which took me entirely way too long to get. I don't think i got the boomerang. Maybe until like a little bit before. This 'cause i just hadn't had to use it and i had never used the marine bag. I don't like immediately because if you talk to. The chicken lady in her chickens are missing. There's like a chicken challenge. And if you like three or four times you get like three hundred rupees like immediately you get you get a lot of release from her and she's awesome. I didn't get piece of heart. Because i was like how many more times i do like seventy three times and i was like ten times yes too many but yeah because i i own six chickens right now so i on like yeah. These getting these chickens back is a pain in the ass So so yeah. I got a lot of money from her doing that. I think eventually yup. I think you may have to jump across the river with the flippers. To to get your chickens more fast. And i didn't have flippers. At the time so stopped. I stopped because you're not supposed to do that. One way later were or to finish it later in the guide. 'cause they're like you can't finish it so we'll tell you later but i used it to get enough obese to buy because you can buy the three hundred and you can buy a bigger bombay in a bigger arabic for six hundred rupees. Each which i. I never got the bigger wallet so i stopped at five hundred rupees. I never got a bigger wall. It's hidden somewhere. I forget i forget where it had. But it's hidden. You had to do special stuff together. I remember that this game stuff condone. But but this but this ice dungeon you get pretty late in the dungeon. You get the the lantern which has got some cool effects for it but this is clearly not like lantern focus dungeon. I wasn't music philanthropy. How you press a and it just lights a fire in front of you. And there's no magic meter in this game like others. All the games i mean. I didn't like the puzzles. When okay like torches as fast as you can barely enough time. I didn't like it tricked me. Because i'm used to like the wh- lantern from from link to the past where you push age time to light something whereas this one you just walk around with it. So i was accidentally like like stifling. My only injured every time. Because i walk up. Something and push in the network in the same is really fun to burn mummies with it it. It didn't work well for me. Oh well if you had it on. Walk right up to him like styling. I roast spoke at the fire on. Yeah okay. I didn't know that i knew what i got murdered by them the first time and then i. I'd reloaded my say state. And they were in on. It was just an amusing dungeon irritated. Okay do you get a little irritated after you hit the to your new. I got i. When i saw that i thought it was a statue until i looked at the guy and saw. Oh it's not a statue. It's a boss that you end up leading to different torches that enver you open you hit switch you do something that brings a sundown to unfreeze the element but when you unfreeze the element you also unfreeze an that then steals the element in there runs into another room which to me. That was a little annoying. That i did not like this boss fight. But you had to do for this this. This was almost where the game ended for me This is the first time. I had like any real challenge. In terms of combat and part of it is because in order to fight him. You have to have the shield which you've never used in the gain you can really back the blocked with your sword really out again and again and fight south. Yup i was gonna say like i did not use the shield in this one. The activated my my my sort to have the the flame and the shield like that was my man because there's not many buttons to do think that's only to doing like just like the game boy color game you only get the two buttons a and though the my biggest gripe is lake in we'll get there is during boss fights pausing switching weapons going back pausing switching weapon lake that got it once again l. Would have been great. Used to like. I don't know hold it. Press left and right cycle through items for like be or whatever that would have been great. I have such stockholm central. No with this place. So much link's awakening than i'm used to this bs. I'm used to like using the pegasus boots to like. Cut through you know. Use the boots on one button and the feather to jump on the other biden and the inmate air. Then you need to pause it. Switched your sorts. And then you cut the bush when you land so you land on ground. Like i'm used to that kind of b. s. So so this didn't affect me too much. But i'm still six two little buttons for me. Twenty twenty one gambling. This game should be remade. But the all all the capcom ones. I would love it if they remade. The the oracle games in in the outlooks awakening style. But i kind of wish they would make this one i baby. I like the oracle gauge to. I don't know this is a high haven't played. I've never finished oracle age or Played both of them for decent amount of time but never finish either. I've never even started them. I can change that sunday for your failing. I will be happy i i. I started both of them again. I beat them both back in the day and starting them up again built during the pandemic. They're the halfway through. I will be happy to be on those episodes. It'll be awhile because the next game. I'm doing zelda to on the show so and i liked that one never played it. I feel like i should just knock it off my list final easel. That's why it's coming on the show really guide on how the leveling of system. Oh yeah of course on me. When i play my little video before i started game. Sometimes i know what i'm doing. Yeah that's how you play games. So the last thing to say about the droplet dungeon vista. Just that boss fight was just like we were talking about. It's just so annoying like you have to. You have to shoot these stones back at him then you have to run around. Hit his tail with the land. Turn in order to light him on fire and then you can hit him with the sword. Yeah okay. I i watch a speed runner. Do it and man. He did a lot simpler. And i did apparently right after you start to unfreeze him. I'm freezing but soon as you stunned him. You can run around him. I he's done invite him on. Fire not do what i didn't wait. Yeah you gotta you gotta be primed and ready. I was not. And i would sit there and wait and wait and then all of sudden i i just keep running back and forth. Finally with the pegasus boots in one. Hand the land from the other until i got him just right it was not and then i found out a real simple way to do it. I was like come on now. So i'm in this game reuse bosses sometime like you fight the caterpillars like three times in this game that were a mini boss. The first dungeon which was okay. I just. I really hated off act. That was like i. I see made you quit because that boss fight really irritated me That was that was. That was where. I was very happy to have the saved in between every successful hit and re and reload if i took a if i took a hit i don't usually pull that out especially this late and gave them pretty o. P. but had to for this guy. He's an annoying boss by definitely my least favorite without a doubt. Yeah i could have done without it. And this is where i found out the game had tricked me and when i went to go put the third stolen in whereas the four stoned owns. What the hell is this midway. When you also are finding out bed volley took over the king or something or i think killed the king. No way sooner okay. we'll cut scene. He did it way sooner. But you don't really get the impacts of it because you don't need to go back to harrow. Castle to like get the day refused the elemental swords sitting. Get your your third link bro until this point. Yeah that's right. Yeah this is definitely part of the game. Go back and find refused. The elemental sorta my. I have no idea where i the so this is also like i i. I did like the hide from the guards. Though like karina time that was kinda cool to me that was also a safe state. thing is not stealthy inpatient. it's more just time. I don't wanna waste time. Save time but out i was. I was just so annoyed. When i thought i didn't have that four stone. It made me so angry. I felt lied to by the also we hadn't talked about. There's a guy that will teach you knew sort abilities throughout the game or just a couple of different ones dead. One that you've been fine. I i did some of the scrolls. But i stopped after a bit data like any time. I got a new item like i would go see her because the chances are that. Hey now with the pegasus boots. You can now run with your sword out complaints like you. Don't do that link's awakening okay. Yeah if for some reason it's not automatic. You have to go back and talk to her and then she'll be like now. Let me show you this tigers role you can run with your sword outtake. I should have been able to do that from the beginning. There's such weird things about this too because she's let me possess you to show you how it works one. You could have just described it to me which she did especially with spin attack in the league. Now you do it. I'm assuming because they didn't wanna make the spider for doing all the animations and that's why she possesses you but all still. it's like. Let me visualize this for you before. Such a weird dignity valley cut out. This is what it looks like. Malinche does to possess really your choice. I said she thought was a guy who's teaching you. i don't know they. Okay works i. I was like wait. I'd have really pay that much attention. I i did. Learn the scrolls a bunch than i just got to i. I think i learned four or five. I'm just like i'm done on. I get like that in a game. Where i'm just like okay so i'm just a finish in this game. I've just i keep doing the main stuff. And that's because one of the questions like do some stuff with kim stones in order to get the teacher new I'm done also. This game does zelda thing that. I'm a big fan. They bringing down. Pay back in this game at one point you have to go to go to the graveyard. The final. the stone is that you didn't get the trick you don't pay to be in this game. He's an offering time. Like i don't know it just of at least it makes more sense for him to be there than like oncology island in link's awakening remain. Yeah it also really dummies. Like i'm gonna give you the chemo and then it gives you the kidney walk outside in a hits you instills your key Walk one screen over in the key back while back to walk back. Okay guy the key now. I'm trying to the gate. you can't do it. You have to talk to don lemon. Use the key to help you open the gate. Wyden one screen dumpy. Just open it for me. I went back and forth about ten twelve times before. I realized what you had to do chasing chasing until i read the guide to know you hit the truth. You're pegasus boots. I'm like oh okay. Well yeah you're right. That's dumb that you've got to give him the key that you got back. I mean story where she could've walked with me and then got hit by the crow and it got stolen like that would make more sense to me but sure and this is also weird game gonna point out in the library questors books on shelves that you end this thing you said like you. Pegasus boot to knock it out of the books on the shelves in the previous. You can't pegasus boot to knock the tree. The books off the shelves like you do in both linked to the past annalisa weakening. But you can't do it in that game. It's very weird that that's the one mechanic. You can't pegasus boots. Trees feels like what's the word you've been conditioned by so many zelda games at this is what it is and then all of a sudden like you can't change on the fifth zelda game where. I'm expected to do something like that right. I mean especially with like you're puzzled language like that like that's that's where it really throws me. It's so weird. I mean i guess you know. Every zelda game is somebody's i and make they planned this for fifteen years like at this point like i should be able to do this. Don't mix how you knock off books off a bookshelf. But also that's really weird. Like i'm not gonna knock off half a point of us didn't didn't have the right book knocking off shelves but it does bother me. It didn't bug me a little too that you have to go through this whole Shrink down and everything in order to do it. I did like we do get like a power bracelet. So then you'd be like a little hulk as a guy like like ant man with proportional strategy. Yeah you had to go through like a little mini benjamin's at a waterfall or something or inside a pond. Y'all pond inside the towel. That was a little interesting. I do like though that this game makes so many little mini dungeons necessary that lake at the time. What if excited me if they incite like this game has eight dungeons but the fact that it was four for some reason. Turn me off this game. They didn't even put the investment in this cause. I'm also coming off a wind. Waker where there's a dungeon did they didn't finish so you just roll up. Here's the item. Thank you so so. I think nintendo just job lose belly. The third dungeon in waker. They just didn't make because they didn't have time they'd rush the game so you roll up and they're like here's the third down and i'm like so i thought nintendo just cheap out in five four dungeons in this game. What's even the point notice. There's more than enough dungeons in this game. Yeah because like the royal crypt and the graveyard like a- another mini dungeon to decent on you. Are i plus a tricks you so you. Six main dungeons was a little mini dungeons. 'cause i count high royal castle dark as a dungeon dan. That is a shitty dungeon. Because i got like i was you know on tuesday. I was halfway through. I'd beaten fired gentle. Mike and mike. I'm halfway through this game breezing through this thing not realizing that the two extra dungeons were one big. And then there's actually like four or five of them that it just didn't tell me about your close your but that's what i mean the the the sex. I was actually impressed with the second wind dungeon. This was one that i really kind of threw me for a loser. You go through a lot of trouble to get to this damn dungeon like i was getting pissed. Go up in the clouds and you have to go and few en- find these different gold kim stones. Then fuse goldkin zone so that way you can turn on these clouds like i. I got really urinated the sparks. I got lost completely and i died a bunch of times because i was so confused on what to do but once i got up to the cloud get to the cloud. You get to this town and you go up this tower and you have to. Fuse is one of the people in the tower in order to open. Get them to walk out of the ways you can go to the dungeon which is kind of dumb but the dungeon itself. Was ashley. really cool. A you're in a frigging sky dungeon running around and i really liked it missing where you get the rocks cape which i know some people are saying all just a review of an old item. I don't believe that because in russia that you jump over one or two squares and this you actually almost like fly so it's to me. It's not a repeat of item. It's just an adjustment of an item like alan. I considered something brand new zelda games where they start doing some platforming Knobby me. But i also didn't realize that in in for this dungeon there are. There are things on the ground that show you the boss. You're going to be fighting the big giant stingray. that's up. I did not see that before i right before. One of the chest appears to give you the the the rocks cape. there is a sim. there's a symbol on the ground of that boss. So i had a really hard time with this case. I thought your tap the button so i would tap the ablett into fly farther. I don't think you're supposed to hold it down. It looks like you're you're you're elevation is how long i think when you're holding the but how high you go. I think is how it works. It is hard to like articulated. It's like driving karloff. Asha perspective on you. Just do feels pretty good. Although i was like screwing it up for wild. I figured out like what i'm supposed to do like miss on jumps and stuff. I had a lot of problems with a lot of safety to redo and after. I'm watching a video in reading. The tax rates has hold down the a button for a long jump. I'm lying That's probably what the problem was tapping it wondering why his junk work hours at this point year. You're like i'm done reading. I i can figure it out and then you know that would have been. I would have been one of those good time sirri for when i played this game i was podcast while i was playing it. So that when i play games but my biggest beef with this dungeon though it kind of anytime they have moving platforms i think the moving platforms take too long to come back like if you if you're not ready when platforms they are then. You have to wait like a long time for it to be like okay. Well i ran to the course. Now i came back to you that i think like mario case no better to like loop platforms around. So you're always you're able to jump in start the thing when you're ready especially when you have to make your multiple clone bros and you have to like okay. I think it's coming back. So i can start this challenge. I gotta wait gotta a preset and get my my link. Michael umbro's too because they're gonna disappear. And then i have to wait for this whole challenge to go loop through which is like i think. Like ten fifteen seconds and then go upstairs and then push a block. And i messed up quite a few times. Because i just didn't get my timing right. Yeah no. I definitely Ran into that problem. I say stated a lot in this dungeon just to save time. Yeah just a lot of waiting though for the for that platform to come back that i feel like maybe the fact that they zelda people not knowing how platform i like have platform i really like the design of has done like jumping through f- like you jump through gates go up clouds and how it was just really cool to me and it didn't do the asshole making you drop in different holes too often or lease maybe not even at all which i would not like because this is such a multiplayer dungeon very linear. When you don't. I don't think you double back in it. No it was actually. It was actually really surprised. Like i wasn't expecting dungeon. I wasn't back. Enjoy it either. And i actually really liked his dungeon. I was annoyed that existed. Because i wanted to finish the game but i was like okay. This is kind of yet and then this boss by far is my hair boston than game. Yeah it gave me a lot of trouble but it is such a unique fight yet really has to be talked about it. Just the atmosphere of writing on the sky on a giant mantar a lake. It's below you. You know you're seeing stuff pass by it was just so i mean visually awesome. Like for what it was it you have to the rocks cape to like jump on blue stingrays that come around to kill them. Then jump back on the big registering reagan in clone yourself. And i don't know. I just felt while there was some difficult parts. I dunno it just felt so fluid and smooth and i just love this boss so much. It's really cool. It's hard but it's a really cool invite gave me a lot of trouble. I had to save a lot in this. I kept i kept screwing up with the clones. Due to hit the is i would clone within. They'd hit my clones clones. And go away because the the shock thing if it hits the clones it will shock you too. Yep it's like okay. I can do this. Oh now. you're going to add stuff. Where i have to dodge one thing with three people and i probably didn't even line up correctly as is yeah. I mean freeman. It was a pretty damn epic fight jesse for as for a for a game in general i would say zelda game is as a preemptive fight it turned me for a loop because this is one game where i had never i don. I don't know a lot of won't be when i came into this. I didn't know those are boston. I knew who was new shrink but like so much of this game was all brand new to me. It was such a new experience and it was interesting not to be spoiled on a game sometimes. Came out you know fifteen years ago which is not normally the case with your spoiled. Today's wall but yeah. I yeah we talk about zelda games. Oh you know this. And i can. I can just like say like shadow temple with the do again. Which talk about negotiate. Yeah but the manta ray in the in the wind engine. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Are you sure you're talking about zelda again. It's a very very odd. Zelda boss was very cool zelda. Boston such a unique fighting. It's not easy either and i think that's i think capcom did amazing with. Hey you know. Intendo rarely gives up their properties. And when they do you always get a different experience. It's not the same like hey you're princesses another castle or gathered the three the three pieces of the tri force. You get new experiences. You get new enemies with familiar Familiarity didn't while being familiar to what the game is. And i i would love to see capcom be like. Hey you wanna you wanna do another celtic game. I wouldn't mind at all. And then before we talk about the final dungeon that's where we're at the million elemental shrine. We should talk about one of the things that we have. We briefly mentioned the the wonderful mysterious shows how those work in this game. Yes this is. This is something you know. I even as a die hard like zelda fan you know getting like little trophies all right so you get mysterious shells. Mysterious shells are used in harrow. Town for essentially a gotcha capsule game. You go in you spend shells you a trophy of something but every time you do. The percentage of you getting a new one goes down so you have to spend more shells and this is the the room i went and once spent all my shells got some cool things. I'll say that's neat. I don't need to go back in here. Yeah yeah. I mean because at least i'm used to link's awakening as the zelda. I spent the most time with them. Those shells there. They're all over the map. i think. Fifty or sixty of them and then they unlock know progressively more stuff through the game. And then you get like a level to master sort of the like the first chest ever opened. Here's fifty mysterious shells. And then i walked next to another chest like seconds later Here's another fifty hundred stand things like immediately. What are these used for nothing. nothing fun. I not collect. I'm not going to hoard. Like three thousand on an awesome. Sorta the i just get like basically like enemy. Descriptions like like scanning In metro writer trophy descriptions to be like here's the enemies and apparently like if you can hundred percent the game after you defeat varsity then you can go get like bodies other forms at the end because you know it's a boss battle most performance. You can add those to your pool for the gotcha game but even if you die and then go back to this. As long as you saw them. They'll be part of the gotcha game for you. So fill that out. I guess you can at least you that you get a heart piece forgetting all like a hundred and something figurines. Which the way you when you when you put the shells it ends up like for you knew one shovel later on your more shells in order to get something like your chances. It's i i'd started all that bs. Argue gainer and you get a little phonograph that lets you play all the different songs in the game. You can choose to and we'll cool. I feel like you've beat the game at this point if you're going through all that stuff. So what's the point of heart container. Yeah there's one yeah and music by this time you've heard all the music stunt but i guess in two thousand five. It wasn't as easy to go on youtube. Like you know what. I want to hear when here at the meghan but that you're taking me of the game. How many chests contain mysterious shells. And how many chests contain can stones and especially the shells. I'm like i didn't care about shells. I didn't need this. I spent a couple of then. I was done after that. I didn't want just. The animation was so slow. And i'm like. I'm not dealing with this crab. They're everywhere in this game. You get tons of side questions game to dislike from doing kenniston pieces where something you just get more kim stone pieces. Here's a hundred kids. Don't fusions in this game you can do and some you do the same person twice if these comeback yet a few people in this game or at least one where you have to leave the room and come back and talk to her again and show that you use the second time. Yeah i may have done like fifteen. That i gave up like. I'm not even if i was trying to complete this game. This is where. I would have probably call it quits because at least the shell game. I know what i'm doing like. I know the percentage of me getting a new one. I'm not talking to everybody. And that's a lot of people will give you just gold monster that just give you hundred. He's like i got one of them. I killed a monster. But he died at the end of a screen. So when i went to go work out the street i came back in the rookie was gone and told the enemy. I'm like well that didn't work out very well. Oh did you play the like little Enemy rush game. No i did not do it. Another part narrow town there was a guy and you talk to like hey essentially like it. It's i'm gonna put you to sleep and during your sleep. You're gonna fight a bunch of monsters and i thought this was really quite a few times but yeah you you wake up into a small little basic dungeon and then like twenty enemy spawn of different kinds and like the faster you take him out like the better rewards you get and i thought that was really fun like i did it rupees. Yeah i think it was only like ten rupees. It wasn't expensive anytime you want. My rupees like for some stupid game. I won't do it unless the guy tells me like you get this doing or something i just. I guess. I just didn't care either in this camp so i mean you eventually get a heart piece for it but like now. That was pretty fun because there's so much unique stuff to this game. So much of that town is a lot of that town to do which i thought was. I think this is the first zelda game to me that i played. We'll say at least for the show that the town had that much going on okay. Maybe terminal had a lot. Going on george mass. But that's a different game but it was nice to see a town that was very lively. I i didn't. I did appreciate that. And i think it's when you go to the elemental sanctuary where you end up your sword together with the four elements and embody shows up in this whole time. He just been waiting for you to finish the quest for him and just put the story together so he could steal it from your at least find out where the light forces you go there you get the sore and then you find you see a picture on the wall that was hidden that shows at zelda has the light for even looking for this whole time and i thought that was kind of like okay that makes sense as a smart. That's a smart bad guy for the first time like he had a plane me. Why why should i wait for you to finish. And then i'll just take it again nor did knocker anytime opened the door. So storyline storylines Body was an apprentice of as low as low made a hat that could grant a wish or wishes rent wishes and so he puts it on decides to become super powerful it. Why don't you just wish for some of these things like. Hey can you. I wish i knew the lifeforce was i. Don't think hat lets him. Okay i think either. It's in the somewhere it might save. The hat doesn't let him. I'm not sure. But i do know that doesn't let him wish like the light forces. Okay but you are right you have but also like why the hell why how. Why and how do you create a hat and it just makes wishes come sir like this can't be a good thing and not and not have it. Locked up sealed away like it was like in the middle of his living room at the same table. Yeah i mean like oh. He was corrupted by the the hearts of men. I want be like anybody be corrupted when you give them the ability to just wish whatever they want and make a true not not not to responsible with that. Great sorcerer there no idea also is that we had mentioned but i guess the miniature only once every hundred years and it's open right now and that's why he's able to go to the the regular world or something and the whole reason that you're sent on the question of guinea you forgot to mention it because you're a kid and only kid can a minute. So that's why they sent a kid to go do all this. I did like that. Seen only children well links here condemn it. You mean the kid that skipping out on school now. I trust this guy which was funny. You go earlier in the game like you walk past the school and the teachers out there. Like like link you're late. You're not coming to class do that. That's how that works at school. I don't know if i ever went in the school. i didn't. I passed by once. I didn't go into neither. I think you probably candidate. Pride gives us a. I'm assuming every school. Now in a game i think it just so to'real how to play the game like a foul fancy florida's so i always keep them. I assumed it was another ken. Stone wasn't making me. Go in there so like i'm just like i'm good. Everything's kid us phone questions game. That's the game. So what you guys think of dark jairo castle so after you do all this he ends up finding out that zelda is the light force he captures her and then he turned the castle into into a dark version of the castle. And you have to go do this last dungeon which is really long fan. I don't know. I feel like he's final. Dungeons are also Hearted zelda's her to really to do because like link's awakening doesn't have one. It's the boss rush. i appreciate. It's not a boss rush. And i kind of like arena. Times we're gonna check out the previous by oems of the game engines. And that's how i think link between world also. Does it where you're going to do the fire engine again for a little bit. So at least. I appreciate this bespoke dungeon Let it is what it is the game at this point. That's like my psychology of the games. Like i'm done. I got all the. Let's go fight the boss same. I i was getting that way with this game. I just wanted to finish it up right. I get like that with every game though. So i'm don. I feel the exact same way. It just it too much at this point. You've already done you know you've done all the stuff you're just now doing it again for longer longer longer. I got the stuff. I know what's going on like. I don't mind a little dungeon to go through like refresh my memory of what i'm about to face but this is not a little dungeon and also has lots of dr not to fight you fight. Different sets of dark nuts which are giant night in order to unlock four keys to open the last or once you even get to that section. It's a. it's a lot of keys in this done. It's a large engine was annoying. I died a light. Plus you fight enemies. I can kick your ass like there is a couple of looks like different links past the chain ball and they just fucking murder you up to this point like every single enemy like only takes like a quarter of yard container mostly. Maybe a heart not. This game is very generous with There's only a few enemies at least up until this point where the enemy is really. Take it out of you. The way other games games will take. Maybe someone willing to take two arts from you on a hit. Only this game is not combat. It's pretty easy up until this point. Yeah it'd be beat. You're asked this part. I was a little surprised when i got this part. And i'm like just hurt. Yeah this this is where. I started using save states. I was just saying anyway because it's me but yeah it just a hit really hard and it's a long dungeon and dying. It's just not what you wanna do. So and no interest in that. I mean you get through it. I did have issues with it near the end. Because there's a part where once you you you fight all dont you through the game and you get to a spot. Where body is find is is about to extract the light force from zelda. And i don't know if you guys run into this so you run into three different rooms and like okay. Each you finish wondering fight a couple enemies the bell rings like okay you have. We ain't got two more bell rings you go the next room. You fight an enemy. The bell rings and i thought okay. That just belgium's rings when when you you know you finish the room. Y'all is part of a story thing you get into those lash room with three dark nut there is. There isn't visible timer by the way that does end. Oh i found it twice. No i didn't know that. Yeah i had a save state. Thank god right before this fight but yeah if you don't do this fight fast enough he will. You will get a game over. if you don't kill i kill to the darkness. I was trying to kill the last one and also he goes getting a high. I got the power out of it. I'm like well mean game comes onscreen michael what i definitely heard the bells but i think god that didn't happen to me. Oh yeah it. It doesn't get that. Get game here to begin the dungeon if you didn't if you're not using save states now the dungeons dumb. You have to get all the way back. There that would have happened. I would've went out. Found a gameboy advance guard cell. Broke it and then came back home and finish the game. What's really i. It pissed me off. Because i didn't think i thought the timer was fake. Like it was just because there is no timer on the screen but there's no visible timer. Ticking away during that site. And i was not happy. When i found that out because i got my ass i was just. I had a hard time funny. Dark nicolay block a lot and they were really. They were hard for me. They've always been hard for me. I even back zelda one like those the ones that i'm like I don't like these dudes. I don't mind macarena time. I did not like this game. I also want to say this since you just made me remind me that i really don't like to design a mob lands and wind waker on like this game is a follow. The wind waker when he looks like giant. Pick it looks like pigs. I like it from winston. Pass and the originals. Elton get more like the Closer to pigs. I guess in return the jet bet in my head. But yeah yeah i i guess that's true 'cause bulky and this is this is following a lot of the wind waker model made after waker show and then you get then. You volley finally which we should talk about. Body has multiple the i form of. Is he just stay. You fight giant sort. You've had a sorcerer which this was a kind of i liked this fight where he shoots out little balls and you have to hit the eyeballs and then you have to hit him. I loved the body fight it. Yeah well i looked them all because this is where it's a. I think a great accumulation of a boss battle. Where like you know. It's the final battle you know it's going to suck in. You're going to use everything that you've learned up to here and they kind of did it in stages so like the first one like you know you're using the gusts jar to like take off the shield off the eyeballs. You can hit him. And i just loved it. This part. you're right. This part was cool. And then yeah the transformations but like i threw of the fan of the i form the second form. Where you you've he ends up. Transform who had giant eyeball was little. Eyeballs surround him or youth the shoot us to shoot these little orbit around him with arrows and then they flip and turn red and then you have to hold down your vincent said for four seconds to charge up to go to your force or form and then hit. The four is hit the guy. Yeah and you'd better made sure you hit those four close together. Yeah it's that part. Annoy me because he he does a lot of attack you have. He spits purple. Things that stick on the ground can hurt you. They can often give you errol's and sometimes hard to really lucky not often but he does think that stuff like that. If there's too much stuff going on easy for me to get hit enforce art form yeah and good thing you know. We haven't been conditioned to roll out of way of tax. Oh i'm thinking rolling. I forgot this but this game has a dark sloth into it where you are invincible when you roll so you can literally roll through dark nuts and not take any damage which i forgot about what a guy or one. The views. I was watching told me you can just dark souls roles or things so that's what i did at one point i would. I would just keep. I would just roll through things as dark souls. Yeah and then and then with the timing so now during the spas fight not only. Do you have to make sure you hit a good four eyeballs close together so what you can line up your clones easy and charge that while not getting hit but then you have to line up again when he shoots the electricity balls and charge your sword to bounce back him. Yeah yeah that doesn't take any time at all in the final final form. This one thing. That's the final final form. Could you beat this form. Then you go in rescue zelda and you think you beat the game oh yeah and then come back for one last time and this is the former you have to dodge the electric shoots and then hit him with the four sort or not corporate influence in the four version then. Hit the four eyeballs. You can hit him. Know bounce back the the beam he sent to you like. He's him from lincoln past. Yeah there you go. I four have to bounce back at all. Four half's to hit hit the eyeballs or it won't work and you also don't have that much time in between big spark attack. You cannot dodgers four links. Because i tried before you can hit him with the with the ability. Oh and i forgot to mention during that final flight. The third form of him you also have to shrink down during the fight and going his hands at first. Yes and in his hand if you see a little bunch of little like viruses to me and you have to hit the right one with the eyeballs. A little bit different colored in order to break his two arms. And you can do the whole thing. We were talking about where you shoot bounce. The ball is back at him. Yeah it's annoying. It's oh it's very annoying. But i'll tell you much phosphide for me. I get it to final boss but if it's too much for me and you have to use the cane in order to get the hand flip over. He can go inside them. Which i would not have figured out if a guy wouldn't have told me. And then you gotta have your torch and one of the hands out what you can see where the floating viruses are this. This is where. I got tired of pressing start that. It's a lot of switching weapons and for us a lot of having to watch yourself shrink down and get bigger to once again. We're not gonna talk about that. I'm not sure how i figured that. I think i decided hippie but for some reason to figured it out. But i think i was just clicking. I wasn't hurt. Oh it's just too much of a boss just too long of a boss fight for me. Three form with no saving no real healing inbetween saving. If i was playing the game legit i wouldn't have been saving so yeah. It's a long quest dungeon. Yeah so i. i wasn't a big fan of it. I mean i get is the final of game you gotta you wanna put some challenge into it. You wanna big epic boss fight but to me. It was just too much if i wasn't tuning. Yeah i mean it. Integrates your weapons but like no other point in the game are you. Have you done like the returning back with the four sword you know returning balls back to is and stuff. I don't like new things like that being introduced in the final boss. I like things to be like a culmination. My boss Despite general problem with boss fights. Is there like things that you've never done before as opposed you know i in natural combination of the game whereas i really like my favorite boss battles. The industry reminder three d world works literally a platforming challenge like it's epic platforming challenge. That looks like a boss fight. Think that's my favorite boss fight and beyond that it's a super mario to where you're using Warriors suddenly uses all your items against you like he's got a fireball on stage. He's got the bunny ears for another stage. Like i think that those are like the type of boss battles. i really enjoy. Also that's also ask kicker if you tomorrow through. I can't remember this final. I just remember. I love that game. Yeah it's it's like a big climbing through with bowser takes the cherries and there's multiple browsers running around as a cat. Multiple cat thousands running around run from him. And it's not just like hitting an accident killing him. You're actually ethel platforming challenge while he's like in the background looking like a boss fight. Yeah someone's really fun. I i need to play that game for. This show is on point. Cloud lows vacuum. That's my favorite three d. Mario game with my favorite mario games. Yeah okay and and then after you do that. I think if you beat because you finally beat volley after this and then zelda puts on the hat and then uses the hat to wish back everybody roy that's a and destroys the hat and then at the and then as little finally becomes because you killed body. He finally is able to turn into back into his minutes form. But he's a minister that the size of a human so okay and then gives you a hat goes. Yeah because you don't have this whole time. I thought that was just kinda stupid. Funny but i'm like okay. I'll take a half and he goes to the portal and he leaves because his whole time. He has been the doors about the clothes and soon as he leaves the door. Close like you barely had enough time to get them back before the door closes for one hundred years so i found that kind of odd because the door closed so that means you can't see them anymore but the game still goes up. Not the game still goes on. There's actually stopped do in this game. After the you gotta go back and get that figurine go gamble for that all. There's actually more than that. There's figurines plus a giant gore on in this game that you can now go visit. You can give him your shield and get a new upgraded. She'll oh sweet. Wait for some reason he can get a new shield all right. I'm starting. I like like when we first started this. 'cause like i really liked this game like it was fun like i enjoyed it. It was it was refreshing. But why are you getting items after you beat the game I think there's also kim stone and you can do after you beat the game too and there's not like a new game plus or anything. We're just tear through the game. I'm assuming there's not but yeah you give them your shield each your shield. And then he spits out the mir shield. And that's you get you get a brand new shield. Lsu i think reflect more things or something. I don't i don't know i didn't pay attention or care. 'cause you beat the game so what does it matter to me. You know you know if they would put that. I don't know right before the boss battle and you could just like held up your clones and reflected those things about swing your sword. That would have been clinical. You also get a tingle trophy to if you do all the kids. Don't season. I think is what you get of course. Of course. that's what you get. If all the stone they replaced pleased. Kids don't big inventory with a kit with a trophy of tingle singles in this game for some reason with his family. Yeah he's got like a brother or something. What was his name. Garrick junior or something like four brothers. I think i didn't do it. You you get them you get a boomerang if you do all of it a magical boomerang if you do. If you kipnes don't fusion with the four brothers. We find them. David junior was. His name is on my guy to not grow tingle ankle and david junior. That's funny i. I really liked that. I don't i agree. They don't like the fact that the game has more game after you finish it like that like that kind of oh and if you get all all figuring your your prize after you get. The newest ones is a car low metal. You met a gold medal to put in your inventory of his face. That's the reward. Nothing i don't like this game anymore. Us like i don't like the fact that you get the shield after you beat the game like to me that you should have gotten the mir she'll like you were saying earlier report or if it's a new game plus resident evil where you get like a rocket launcher in you. Just blow through the game again. That makes sense to me. You can't know that game you just you. Just get it to run around the completed game if you wanted. I guess and it's to me. It's stupid like i. I have no cromwell secret items at the very end but to have it after you beat. The game just seems pointless. Yeah it serious. The credits rolled. That was game for me. That's it. I saw the credits. That's all i play. Most games credits turned off and other things do other games flavor. This show also. Did anybody get all four bottles now. I only ever got one. I got to. I got a second one three. But i had to look up where the third one was and i. I don't remember where it was. I think he think the game gives you two of them again gives you two of them throw but apparently it had to and just kept a fairy and one for the whole game pretty much. There's one you have to get in the second. One is fused with your grandpa ho. Yeah and there's one that. I knew that i could sneak into the shop to get it but i just never bothered to shrink down. You go behind him. And he says hey. You can't be back here than you say something you take the bottle and then you which i don't know how that why that works but that works and then after you do that then you think you leave you you leave. And that's that's the third bottle. Okay so then you guys do. The gore on mini quests are started by chance never saw a damn gore on in my life. So i i gave a gore on some power to start digging into a cave last solid that okay. So i'm gonna you're gonna like this one's okay so you start there minneapolis. You see a gore and you stone fusion with him and he starts digging think. It's tired filter out the game in the indifferent dungeons where the main denver many of you will see a little like great shape on the wall in the dungeon. That doesn't do anything. You don't think you have to kim stone fusion with these with these walls which will then make another spawned another on to go into the mind to help punched and get farther. You have to do having eight times eight different places that either hit and you have to use the moment to get to these spots by the way too so you don't have to go back to old done with the moments find these things. Use these use them kingston. Make sure that the right. Kim stone stones and then you do that then unlocked the all the gore and we get you the fourth bottle and the game. You can't get until right before the final dungeon. So i think i figured out what happened in this game. It was it was. They were rushing to finalize. The guy had the script in his hand and he's running down the hallway being finished finished. It everything's good trips falls the papers go. Everywhere he scrambles puts them back together. And it's like no no the yeah. This looks good here. You go no. I made this giant goran. We're gonna put it in the game. Will the games done. Put it afterwards with shield. I don't care whatever. I think what this this is just proving to me like I think we can get back to your your these. This is a good game. Decide quest sound like bs. Yeah yeah but i mean. Most of them are unnecessary. So it's i can't be mad at when stuff like that is you know bullshit. And it's not written on your menu anywhere that you're tracking five hundred side. Quests that you didn't grab no it. It really could have used the bombers notebook majorities mass. Yeah i think that would have made me wanna do it more than i'm not. I'm not messing this. But then that conditions me to be like. I'm not talking to anybody because all of these questions stupid and in the library quest takes me too long because a half to do that one. You know i don't hate breath. A wild korac seeds quest anymore. Because at least at least it's like. Hey yeah you gathered a bunch of poop. Congratulations golden dern. Yeah like okay. I hate you but i though yeah you get all the figurine golden golden shit too. It's just in the face of the guy's face that you gave all these shelves too often is what does a hate us. Although i got nothing quite zelda eight us their show this playing this game which we play. There's all the cdi game someday. No no i'm going to. I just got a. I got i gotta get a cdi emulator to work. And i gotta find at least one sucker to join me. I really wanted to convince my parents. Give me a cd. I was in that jessica like this looks like you're three. Zelda games man threes elderly games. Hey i think Tumor okay though handrail. I have never heard those words in my life besides the cutting they look like okay games. Now i really want. This show is really bad No if we're if we're i liked mich- cap But to me they were like. I don't know about this game. Like i don't think see i see i. The only thing you'll do is make like mitch kapor. I just wanna play them because one of my goals is the play every zelda game and the show is gonna make me actually do that. 'cause i finally got off the list and those are on my list of play sunday in record episodes status to play. Okay well maybe rough beat and record so when my goal someday just got a fly ball of it. I do wanna i do wanna play hotel. Mario though so to be fair like i completely opposite. Because it's there's an emmy. Somebody remained that game really was a fan made of that game. He he made so. I'll play. I'll play the version but you have to promise me that you're going to finish. It all started i. I finished every game of three games in the show. Beautiful joe because i wasn't planning emulation So river too because it wouldn't work either. Pc or ps two and blood omen two because at frozen the final boss. I just. I'm i'm going to read this. And this is for the wand of gambling controlling. Zelda is marginally easier than sedating a wild bull. So i i'll play it but i i'm waiting for that text going. You know what we're gonna we're gonna skip those one. If it can run we will. I will play it for the show by the end of tomorrow. I'm going to find out how to gives us running. I have roms of them. I just i have never gotten. I haven't missed emulator to get us a run the one i want me to pay for it. I'm like i'm not paying for this shit. I wanna play. But i wanna pay anything to play it. I mean desperate to play this game. I'm not going to be looking. I'm you'll find a cd l. No him worth money. Now all right. And i would say now we go to questions comments memories but somebody me forgot. The even asked anybody for questions this entire week. We don't at this time. Unfortunately which is this. The first time i've done this on the show. I completely forgot to ask. I'd forgotten before and remember during the episode and asked and they've got a few. I didn't even think about it like ten minutes ago. My well so right now yeah. It's been a week. I started a new job tomorrow. So my role brain has been on that. I guess i completely forgot that. That's what i was supposed to do this week. Life happens yes by like asking for question. One gives me way to promote the episode. So yes we don't have any. Go to shelf. Stagger box and vince. Why don't you go first. i'm gonna get. I'm going to stack it. I think it's it's higher than my memory than what it was. I was kinda like ask. I'm kind of lukewarm on it. I enjoyed this one. I think is a really fun to dell. it's not in the pantheon of to dissolves for me which is really the top are leaks awakening and a link between worlds for me. So i can't put it high not display this. But i did enjoy it. So it's it's in the The stack world. And what about you. Adam yeah i. I was so closer to putting it on the shelf until i just found out about all this stuff after the game it league. It hurt me. So i'm going to put it on stack. 'cause it's it's good and especially like if you have never played it but kind of have that each for nostalgia like play linked to the past for the eightieth time. It just tried this one new exerience new worlds and it. I loved it. I mean the graphics considering what it was running on just a beautiful game. I'm actually going to put this on the shelf. I i had. I had known the stock for this game. That never played it before. I love link to the past. But i still had nothing for this game. I came into this game with no real anticipations. No i was like okay i got. I got finally played zelda game i know people like it and i had a great time lane. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was even though it did. Have dumb shit too it. It had those dumb things that we've been talking about. That didn't bother me. I still really enjoy the game. And i'm really glad i finally got to play. It can get it off my list of a backlog of games that i've been meaning to play for over ten fifteen years because i had this game i i've never owned it but i've always meaning to play it and i finally did and i really had a great time i will be recommending to people all the time so it's going on the shelf so you can actually get this game currently depending on what this game ask re-released besides just gameboy and kind of get re released on we you we still have one of those hooked up you can play it on there and also i think it was on the three s e shop to fill may be ambassador game. They didn't sell gb game straight. So oh okay yeah. It says three different. They never sold those ever did now. What the fuck why would you. I'm fucking like me because ambassador. Gb games are actually like hacking through. Because i think the gpa chip might still be in a three s but it doesn't do like sleep mode and the home button doesn't work so it really just. I think you have to turn the system off to even like get it to turn off like it's like it's not like an overlay or anything. I can't believe they never brought it back. Because i i've seen nintendo futures masters or a lot of really good games. I didn't realize you can never get those again. You never you never ever sold them. They never ever sold those things now. The only way to play this game now. If you if you wanna play legit is to buy a we you hook up your we you and download it before they shut down the way you buy a system. That's been dead for four and a half years. Yeah just played anyway. That's why. I mean. That's how i am with nintendo games. I'm like you know with fusion. League dreads coming out and it's like hi. I'd like to play the whole game in the stories. You cannot literally do it without buying a system that was four and a half years dead. This is my little mini random. Link the new. Halloween movie comes out. Oh well put all the halloween movies on blu ray like. It's not that hard to get them all on the new system playable in some way so people can catch up. You might be able to get some extra money. Doesn't make sense. Intended not like never got released an anything mcgee moi event But it doesn't say that. I'm here really how wikipedia just opened up. I can probably. Oh maybe you could be. I mean i'm not gonna hook up my way you'd find out zero mission so that i do know that. So that's why maybe i'm confused zero-emission it doesn't show your mission here either. So maybe they just didn't update wicky then either way like come on alex putting on. Why isn't this on the switch. Yes i mean. We are supposedly still getting rumors of game. Boy games possibly coming to switch online service. This would seem like a real good trying candidate it especially the fact. They've been ported to the three d. s. and they were in the we you mean they have the source code. They have the ability. I know he's not that somebody wanted to go. You just throw it on there. But i feel like it would be worth it if i can play this game on my cell phone by easily. Just going to the app store and in doing some searches intendo should probably be able to port over kind of easy like i don't know the logistics of it but i know i know how i'm playing and took two seconds putting on something that hard even for like a council. I think you couldn't remake the game or remastered but i can just dramas and maybe i'm not sure i don't know a but like you said emulators can do it. I feel like you should drop a rom i again. I'm not. I'm not again developer so well and then there's also but then you introduced to the internet and the internet will be like well. These frames skipped here and this game slowed down here and then lists like. He's not a perfect. Yeah but it works. It's fine don't really care. Just get it. Playable just have have every single game playable on your modern systems. It's not it shouldn't be this difficult so this is this is a good one. It's a sixteen year old game you people like to zelda's there haven't been that many in the last fifteen years. I said this is probably one. People have missed or haven't played nearly as much as they played linked to the past. So yeah it's a good check out. I think yeah. Because i i miss this one to completely. Because if i didn't have a game wave anti ashley Ice skipped that whole generation. I didn't get a game wave. And so i gotta yes and i bought a bunch of game wave and scarves which i never finished one day. I think that of everything disabled munish cat. I'm somatic cell. Phone got questions. Just because i was excited to ask and i'm like i'm going to ask on wednesday. Wednesday came and went. They left thursday. Came in friday. Came and saturday sunday. And i'm like oh shit. It's been a week next week. I will ask for sure. And if you want to hear more episodes about zelda. We did legends link's awakening and one hundred twenty. Three the gameboy color one lives all carina time episode one hundred five legends all linked to the path with special guest jeff cork previously game former episode fifty and legends. Zelda majorities mass episode twenty seven. So check those out. So why should oh. Yeah we're actually. We are playing metro-dade prime. Finally i'm going to go back and beat that game. I have never finished but played multiple times making myself finish metric prime his. It's still hold up by the way i play. I played a bunch of it yesterday. So hold up didn't it didn't age bed. Nice considering game has a terrible development system if you ever listened to. There's a video on youtube from madman muscles. What happened met trade prime and he talked about all the bullshit that behind the of that game. So let's check that out really good you. You will really question how this game got made and her not to be as good as it can go. Yeah because the the guy that was originally in charge of it was a fucking idiot. He made the guy game. Oh god really yes. He went on because he he got. Yeah he taught me he got kicked out. And i'll talk about next week. Got kicked out of the studio. Intendo fired him. Pretty much your bottom out. And then he ended up making a new studio and made the guy game. I mean he disappeared off the face. I think after that. So i got pulled up on youtube so i'm watching that you're going to you're going to go down a rabbit hole. Those videos by the way. I love matt mic muscles. August skipped over this woman and vince. Where can people find you. Yeah you can find me out on my every other week podcast. Some of my friends read comics. We cover a classic comic books this our most recent episodes will have covered superman's pal jimmy olsen which won the eisner for best limited series as well as some g Original first issues of shanxi to coincide with the nc movies. I also had a video series on our youtube channel. All my friends are right here. It's called that was a game and right. Now we're covering a bunch of games That are sequels or spin offs to classic video games that are kind of forgotten like minhaj capture so we cover stuff like super princess. Peach warrior world warrior blast That kind of genre of games or star wars episode one racer revenge the sequel to episode one racer which i really enjoy So those are the kind of things that we cover over on. That was the game and the all my friends right here youtube channel. Okay and adam. I know your pockets has been on hiatus for awhile coming back soon. We are coming back soon. It it's been a long hiatus and the best way to say it. Life gets in the way sometimes but there is not a time where al anon i are not thinking about what we're going to be doing next episodes. We wanna do youtube series stuff like that. We have lots of plans All we ask is that you know the people that are still waiting for that new episode. It's coming it's definitely coming and we appreciate the patience and and you know just being on here today once again has reminded me how much i enjoy doing this. And yeah just watch out for top games chew bubblegum. Facebook post is going to be coming really soon and outlying stuff to come back. And you'll see lincoln. The show us to his podcast. Also so thank you can subscribe and be ready when he does go back. Live again right and if you enjoyed the show please go to our patriots. Little's at all you can go vote in our patriot and you can decide what movie that. 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"More Kaley clips. Adam Curry. John's divorced twenty eight twenty twenty award winning on Asian Media Assassination episode twelve hundred forty six. This is no agenda enjoying the magic numbers and broadcasting live from opportunities on thirty-three here in the frontier of Austin Texas capital of the drums star state in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and for northern Silicon Valley message to the looters and rioters in Minnesota social distancing people social distancing. I'm Jesse Davar Act. Funny the one thing I did not hear anyone say covering the the riots social distancing please well they had this thing that was funny was There was an MSNBC replied. I didn't clip because it's could too many families all mumbling backwards but they they put subtitles on Katie deters with one of her correspondence her show whatever it is and the and the reporters out there with this big mass. We have the clip. I have the clip. Oh you do okay. Plays Larry and I WANNA come back to mass little bit later but I played this for. Yeah this is Katie tour. And so she and he wears this. I think he's in Florida somewhere. Maybe there Florida. Everyone's partying on the beach. Right and that of course is outrageous. And then he's he actually the the on the ground reporter with a mask on looks over says someone with a mask and that guy is filming him and says people. They're just not worried about it. Cal Not worried about their own personal safety. I haven't met anybody who is. I met some folks actually from Lake Geneva who lived in the area there were saying a few miles outside of town where I were and they say they're worried about. They're worried about that second spike. They're worried about coming in from Chicago but they'll quickly at at the same time. This is the place that relies on that business. I think people want a little bit more funding. When it comes to these programs that they could stay close but again. I think people felt like the Supreme Court decision here in Wisconsin that it was time to open up. See here a thrill. Nobody's wearing them. Nobody's GONNA including the government's striking images cal Perry cal. Thank you very much. I loved her response. The most striking images yes after the guy literally standing there looking like a doofus for calling out the people without a mask and this camera crew doesn't have one either. Yeah the guy says the passer bys says hey and neither does. The cameraman is a cameraman or the crew. Go Out and do a two man or anything like that. He had a whole crew within with lights. I don't know I. I want to get to that but I have a couple of things I want to discuss. I but before anything we have to talk about the wave of Nerd Disappointment that of that. Just flush over the entire globe yesterday. Did you notice any of that? I was watching the live feed of the polluting. Quite interesting very entertaining while you were watching that the other people were watching this and sadly jake. I'm sad to deliver the news that today's launch has officially been scrubbed in weather Just sixteen minutes and twenty three seconds before the scheduled liftoff at four thirty three eastern time. Here at Kennedy Space Center now a backup window is planned for. May Thirtieth that Saturday and backup to the backup because back to that. Backup a backup to the backup to the backup weather situation. No exit side actually forgotten about that had nothing to do with it. No what I wanted to say was. There's a couple of things that were going on with this launch and I was reminded yesterday by a very good friend of the show. Who SAID DO I? He says he reminds me every two years. What thirty three stands for apparently and I keep forgetting. Apparently he says the number thirty three goes back to the Crusades and the PRI the Knights templar which is you know the precursor to the masons and the aluminum body it Cetera. Of course thirty three throughout history has been used many times but since you know eight what is it one word the Crusades a thousand years ago? Something like that. Don't longtime longer top of my head when you should longtime ago. It's not really. I don't think it was that long ago. Maybe seven hundred years eight years ago is a couple of years ago. A couple of give or take a few hundred thirty three meant abort mission and we have to remember this. That's one meaning. That could be many others but the thirty three was code for a boarding the mission. Now if you look at the space x what was the launch time. Four thirty three. Pm come on people. No wonder it was going to be aborted right. I I was going to be aborted last Tuesday when I was on the Horowitz show go you did I did. I didn't hear why. Why did you think it was going to be aborted? What was your weather conditions? There were ridiculous and the whole thing seemed like it was. They were didn't want to really do it. Well I think something else happened honestly looks to me. Let me tell you so for a while. Now I've been following. There's there's a couple of guys in New Jersey and they are shooting video on their phones of aircraft that are commercial size aircraft. But they're not mark commercial the kind of bland not mark military either and they appear I say specifically they appear to be just not even hovering but just standing just completely still in the air and they can forward backward sideways and they can shoot off and I think considering trump's love for Elon. Musk his strange connection to. Nikola Tesla through his uncle at MIT. And just the fact that the president was there even you know he went there he the Air Force Landau. That was interesting. Yeah that's a good point. And he said before you launch a good guy. We got to protect him even though he has ever every reason not to like along. Electric cars arrogant billionaire. That often rubs with other arrogant billionaires but no no he loves along too I think just even looking at the way those damn rockets operate and come back down and land on the pad. I think they've given him the anti gravity technology. No one else has been able to do this privately. Richard Branson just had failed launch. And what he didn't take into account is when you when you wind up the anti gravity technology for this big blast that you have to have covered by rockets smokescreen Ukraine create weather patterns magnetic energy. So I think that he has to figure that out was not magnetic at all its gravitational magnetism involves. Aw but you don't know how it's created and the only reason I can I can say this is a possible theory is because of something you said years ago. You told me about the guy who invented the semiconductor technology. Who did that one you have to tell you? Tell the story again do that one thing and then he went away never invented anything again. What was that story Shockley? Tell me well I was good friends with George. Maura who worked at shocked the labs in the early days and Shockley was one of the CO inventors of the transistor and went off to become a semiconductor manufacturing silicon valley and he was the progenitor of Fairchild and Intel and everything that came afterwards Motorola semiconductors probably part of that so he they're they're making a transistor company they're making transistors and the word around the office and chocolate is very interesting character anyway. The word around the office according to George Amongst all the engineers was test Shockley lost it because he's apparently was unable to invent anything Let alone anything. Further than one that they were manufacturing. It shot the labs and Fairchild Cannon took over the business from there not a couple of guys who quit chocolate went to start fairchild and then From they are the guys who were to fairchild quit there to start Intel and another side story was that Fairchild was so when a more Gordon Moore and Knauss new and maybe maybe maybe it was. The third guy. Wasn't Andy Grove by somebody else but noise and more quit fairchild to start Intel because they came up with this they worked on this idea of integrated integrating a bunch of transistors. Yeah and Kerr was going to sue Intel and as soon as shocked. We got word of that. He said that. If if Fairchild suse Intel he's suing fairchild things so fairchild dropped the idea of suing Intel and the rest is history and at the time. I think when you told this story you concluded that there was some theories that he was a number of theories that that the entire transistor was was really a reverse engineer alien spacecraft. Yeah so I'm just saying the way trump fons over him and a lot of things and the way rockets land still just bugs one guy who doesn't come up ally who supposedly worked at area fifty one in some or the other the real part which is an area and this guy's been around for a while he doesn't give speeches he doesn't give talks he doesn't even like to discuss it right but he has discussed it in great detail and I was watching a recent thing where this one of these Body language guys was was watching his interview on. I think it was with Joe. Rogan rogin interviewed this character and he went on about and described all these anti-gravitational love one of those to the Star Academy is that it was on Rogan entertainment. Guys you know it was just as Name it's very forgettable. And he never shows up a lot but he apparently has all the all the drawings and the goods. He's got was our name. Bob Lizzo ask Bob Lazar. Good Work Chat Room troll room not chat. There's no show going on there describing this and he talks about these anti gravity devices and and I've been hearing about does anti gravity devices sense. I remember one time in one thousand eighties. Just one guy's a techie of some sort was very kind of famous in the valley. And he's talking to me one day says yeah. He says they're GONNA anti gravity. They're going to release it any minutes ago. Yeah good to go ready. And that gay disappeared off the face of the earth after he spoke with another guy. We had this guy firm who was like very famous kind of a sauce flying saucers or or aliens and he said the same thing. I've been hearing this in fact I heard just recently this all this talk about and it never happens. Where is this device is who knows? It never happened that we locked the entire country. I'm tired it never happened. That we've locked the entire globe down either so even in your lifetime creative interesting well and I spoke to the dog on Tuesday as promised Yes yeah did you hear. This is supposed to tease you on. This wasn't some. We agreed on but I was going to do what the dog have to say. Well I had a nice chat with the dog who I have not spoken to and I think twenty dog right so the dog is That's our show name for him. His real name is Maurice Dont. He's a Dutch guy. And the last name means the dog literally translated and he's social geographer and really a data scientist He does all the political polling for decades. I grew up. Watch a little bit older than me. He's like olden both of us. He's seventy two. He sounds very fit and spry. And so he's he's been a pollster. Yes in pollster But every elections he shows up and and all kind know he's done market research. He was one of the early guys on that he was into computers. Really early on my dad worked with them for many years in the in direct marketing. So and and he's a certified guru and he's always on TV when there's something about statistics or numbers. It doesn't matter what it is politics. Obviously but you know anything that's going on. They usually call them so they called him and he said Yeah. I got some stuff going. I got some ideas. And after telling the ideas twice he was cut off they brought in the virologist and he's never asked back again and which is weird for him because he is Mr mainstream so he went full on into podcast. Anything you could find was getting taken down and censored on Youtube and that's when I found out so well let's see what Maurice has to say and if you if you enjoy very much. How symptoms at talk? He'll speak at the ditch. You will love this interview. It is about an hour and a half and it's great. It's crazy great. So that would only be by choice. Only GonNa play about two and a half minutes just to give you his theory and then I can expand on Because it don't wait too long to clip so this is basically what he discovered and It will tell you what the implications of that are basically. I'm a social geographer and from day. One I learned how to program a computer ninety-six fife when it was eighteen years old so I was always in big data even before divert existed and as joker for the only thing where I know something of a bake analysis of patterns. Jerker full veterans and. Try to understand right. They happen so from day one. I tried to see what kind of pattern I could see with this virus spreading all over the world and I saw from day one some very interesting patterns and at the first. Let's say between January and beginning of March. Basically the only places where you could see outburst of the virus was in the areas of the world nor of Sturdy Greece nort and and you could see that those areas where the temperature in the winter is somewhere between Let's say forty five night until sixty fire night and the level of humidity is low. And the interesting thing is that is specially the temperatures where you also see that influenza happens then you can see that in the wintertime. There's influenza it's not no influence I in the summer. The behavior of the spread of the virus. Exactly it's influenza diseases different with spread all over the world. He's exactly like influenza happens. Mitt was one big difference if you see for example in two thousand and seventy two thousand eighteen in the medal of some big outbreak of influenza. Still does only twenty twenty five percent of the population we cost a big part of the population is already immune for a new influenza. Because maybe thirty years ago or twenty years ago that flavor of the year was already before. They're so in. Your blood is a kind of defense with grown a- there there is no defense because nobody was has immunity. So you see basically very clean sheet. Everybody could be infected almost everybody so the pattern. Uc is for a Jogger for also an easy pattern. We also don't have to see inside the blood of person if he must maybe immune because you know everybody nobody is immune right and then you see the patrons much more clear than if you'll see influenza in a normal year so what this means and this is the part he can't back up. Is that the virus and he believes. This is the same for influenza. He spread through Aerosol and not surfaces not not droplets and that the idea of Social distancing and masking is only necessary when you have the environment which is cool and very low humidity and he went through in our and a half you went through example after example around the globe. Why all of a sudden spread of an outbreak would occur any looked at the weather patterns. He looked at different a different patterns six weeks ago. Apparently he predicted that That it would start spreading in Brazil at the time. Brazil had nothing going on and he did wait so a explained. Now why would it have to be low humidity? It seems to me okay. I'M GONNA explain why this concerns. Minka when you have low humidity. Anything that is a vaporized will actually just dissipate. As opposed to stay in suspension in the air with high humidity because with high humidity. Nothing really evaporates it just kind of sits there so you could save. You had to give some aerosol. I can only tell high humidity environment it would stick around long droplets. Yes I can only tell you what he's saying and what he says it's Aerosol. No one believes this by the way. There's no one. No one believes that. It is spread through Aerosol and I don't know why they're not looking into it but if it spread through Aerosol for whatever reason if you have low humidity and cool temperature it actually blew the actual Aerosol does linger in the air. But it's very easy to fly away if you have proper ventilation and that's his thesis. He says look at all the places where there was no proper ventilation where the windows were closed. He said the worst thing people can do is get on the bus now with the windows. Closing your mask on because it's just there's no air to circulate it away but he literally looked at all of anyway said what is the ideal the ideal environment for the spread. The heiress allies spread of this virus. Meatpacking plants cool very low humidity and and people reasonably close together and he had example after example after example which could also be very valuable if this is to influenza because ultimately the same amount of people die. I agree although some disagree. I agree with his thesis that no one had this so there was no one who would not get it because they were immune so I I liked the way. He approached the data and the numbers and his bottom line. Is We need ventilation. You can go anywhere you want a restaurant to work as long as they're adequate ventilation too. You can have someone sick in your house. As long as they're in a room that has a window open So fresh air can come in and blow it around and it was very unlikely that you'll get enough viral load in And also of course you want to change the temperature and the humidity etc and he just had like ten examples that he they take a long time to get through but I thought there was there. People can listen. Yeah I still have this issue with the humidity definition and your definition of. What's what's an aerosol read definition. Only if it's not my definition so I don't don't have a lot to argue with. Oh well in aerosol suspension of fine solid particles or droplets yet. But that is he says he said specifically it's not the droplets he says it's much finer than that. It's aerosolize and it floats around. That's what he says. It still has to be a is still. The liquid has got to be in a liquid form in a low humidity environment. That would dissipate. I'm just telling you what he said. I do not know if that dissipates in a low humidity environment that you say that. But I don't know I have no idea well spray some what water in low humidity environments would you get Okay well it doesn't I guess well no you you you have a an argument against it and I don't know if that's true what you're saying. I don't know if it's true what he's saying. I know I talked to him about it. it well. Maybe if you listen to the interview why did it? Maybe if I listen to the interview maybe maybe before we we'll move away from. The dog took the best part from the interviews. That will you telling us. It's impossible to play a clip other than this because it takes every example is eighteen minutes and you can't cut stuff you wonder why he's not getting on the air maybe. He's getting long winded in his old age. I don't know I'm just kidding. Don't WanNa know what what is apparent to me though is that there's absolutely no one who has any correct answers. Everybody is full of Shit. They won't answer the questions. They won't let anyone else on the air and this Sunday. Dr burks Admiral Commander Ambassador. Burks went on the Fox News. Sunday show with Chris Wallace and he asked her and a- by the way you have to take a look at what she looks like. She has a new hairdo. She was wearing a red blouse with the Chanel colored scarf just flow. I mean she looks like a clown like an like an M. K. Ultra clown meant to trigger you into some childhood memory and to believe everything. She says her hair. You have to look at a picture. She looked her head. Looks like a Dickhead. Literally a DICKHEAD. It's unbelievable what she's done to it and again. That may have some some your first name again. Deborah that may have some kind of I R. D. E. D. deborrah Deborah No de burks X. B. I. R. X. Look look at this head. Look at that head with the red with the red Outfit on I don't know if they have. You just look on a screen shots can help. Keep them up today here. She is okay you talking to. She had to read blessing a white scarf like a chanel scarf in but her hair is all puffed out now and it looks it. Look at her head am looking at her hand. What does it look like boy? I mean if you're GONNA if you buy pre pre suggesting affect so horrible look but but it was so horrible. I'm suspicious of it. She literally looks like a clown and I don't know what's going on but he was asked point blank. What IS GARF- is out of control. This has got to be some kind of programming. So she's asked pointblank. What up with the models lady. It was two million than it was two hundred thousand one hundred thousand and eighty thousand sixty thousand one hundred thousand one hundred fifty thousand and could you please tell us. Why is this happening a month ago? You and president trump were both talking about a total of sixty thousand covid nineteen doubts. Take a look. It looks like we'll be about sixty thousand mark which is forty thousand less than the number thought of look at how much the model has changed in just a week. Remember just a week ago. It was eighty thousand now. It's sixty thousand early this coming week we're GONNA reach one hundred thousand deaths from the coronavirus and those models that you're citing now talk about close to one hundred and fifty thousand deaths by August. What happened Dr? I think a few things are together so from the beginning and I think when we had that first briefing. We talked about one point. Two million to two point four million One hundred thousand to two two hundred forty thousand people succumbing to this incredibly aggressive virus Those are the figures that we continue to stand by in this first wave and really understanding how to prevent future hospitalizations and future deaths is really what we're focused on every single day. That's not an answer. What the hell was that well? We're just focused on those numbers. Not The question was. How can this happen that it changes well? We're just uncharacteristic for the mainstream M Five M News. Wallace asked a follow up. Question did not accept the initial answer but it a little bit saying we were going to come down below the low end of the model. Which one hundred to two hundred forty thousand to sixty thousand so my question is in this last month. Did you underestimate the strength of the virus? Did we reopen too soon? Did we reopen without sufficient restrictions? What I was saying in that briefing. That you were talking about is what that current model was showing. There are different models we have been using all along in really trying to learn primarily not just for models but understanding what has happened in Spain and Italy and the UK and really tracking those numbers. We understand that. Our mortality rates are less than those three countries. And that's really due to the incredible work of our frontline hospital workers but we understand that these number of infections has led to this level of mortality and our job now going forward is to do everything we can to prevent additional hospitalizations and additional mortality four scientists. She is ruining any belief in science. And it's insulting VJ. Even I understand that you're not answering. The question is a question that you you killed us with these charts and data and then you took it away now. It's like Blah. It's not an answer that giving a damn answer really annoying and the end the outfit and just all of that is who I get a very bad feeling about what her actual mission is and of course. We need to move onto masks with the good doctor what we have said to people is. There's clear scientific evidence. Now by all the droplet experiments that happened and that others have done to show that a mass does prevent droplets from reaching others and out of respect for each other as Americans that care for each other. We need to be wearing masks in public when we cannot social distance. It's really critically important. We have the scientific evidence of how important mask is to prevent those droplets from reaching others. Nothing about Aerosol by the way only about droplets and in a different story from several months ago and she says oh now we have conclusive evidence. We the science is in well. It seems this message is going out far and wide on the CNN. Vin Gupta who is not related to Sanjay Gupta. But it's also a doctor and Shit looks a lot like him. Vin Was and he said respected doctor medical professional telling US exactly what's wrong with not wearing a mask we'd requiring mass across the board help. Is that even feasible Greg? I'm going to say this for the benefit of your family and a young kids from my family and for all Americans. We should make masks mandatory in public ban indoor smoking because you know what nobody should. You shouldn't have to breathe. Somebody elses should have to breathe exhaled cope in nineteen in somebody's breath. Nobody should and so. We should institute mandatory masks in public. When you can't get ricky social distancing that means retail stores that means public transportation workplaces. That's absolutely where we should be headed makes no sense why we're not already there. Were encouraging it. People are flouting the rules. A security guard at a retail outlet in Michigan died trying to encourage a customer to wear a mask. They shot him because they didn't like the way in which I it was trying to be enforced that policy we we need to put the onus on security guards at outlets such an horse this policy to encourage Americans to buy. It's an all in our best interests that we met wear masks. The evidence is overwhelming. We just need governors do their jobs and the governors are doing their job as ordered Governor Cuomo of New York during his daily podcast loved by many even my family. He's the guiding light. CaN'T WAIT TO DUMP TRUMP GO CUOMO? That's been great riddle in this whole thing. We don't understand that it's about government government this government that forget government. This whole trajectory is sided by people. Just want you to note. It's not government's fault. It's you fuckers. You stupid people. You're the stupid ones. Forget government. You're doing it. It's personal behavior. That's all it is and it simple as wash your hands and socially distances use the hand sanitizer and it is where the mask where the mask and this is almost the point of cultural communication. No kidding wearing a mask is now cool. I believe it's cool to sign an executive order. That says wearing a mask is officially cool. There's nothing stopping them from doing that. He can absolutely right. An executive order saying wearing a mask is cool but he won't do it because it's dumb or is a certain amount of informing the public and accepting a new type of standard wearing. The mask has got to be something you do every day. When you get up when you walk out of the House you put the mask on. And I said the other day you know New Yorkers want to reinforce it for other New Yorkers this is cool you want to encourage people to do this by the way I've also it's a color mass. Tabah boring mask like my mask of boring guy of color massive masks. Let's say thing. Some people coordinate their outfit with the color of their mask and this has to be part of literally who we are and what we do every day. That does not mean. When someone doesn't wear a mask we should be rude to that person or Be Obnoxious that person but in New York City really this has got to be part of every New Yorkers fashion and design and clothing and outfitting wearing the mask. It makes a real difference. And if you think that's all talk and Syrup for me why. All the first responders have lower infection rate than the general population. The only differences. They wore a mask. No no no. That's not true at all. There's many differences. But did you hear that needs to be a accessory? It needs to be part of who you are part of your daily life. I understand why because this wearing a mask makes it extremely easy for the authorities to know who is in compliance and who is willing. I see no other reason for it at this point and I think that if there are some did what this whole thing was a deep dark conspiracy to sidetrack facial recognition on a worldwide basis. Will Apple already released their update which includes the Kovic tracing tracking and it has improved. It's facial recognition so it will recognize your face for face idea unlocking your phone with a mask on so there's that answer well. I'd like to see if it could do to pub- well maybe now but the problem is I. Don't this could possibly work. Because there's different kinds of masks you can wear facial. Recognition is going to be twenty kind of mask. Something else is going on. It's not it's not. I think there is a conspiracy. I don't know if it started as a conspiracy but it certainly someone opened up the folder and said okay. Here's how we roll with it and I have A couple of short clips all under minutes from Dr Vernon Coleman and he is a professor. It's like M. B. C. H. B. F. R. S. As a lot of letters he has he's from the United Kingdom. He's an older gentleman season. Nutball why you ever see anybody with all is crazy. Things tacked under their name. Anything beyond BOTHMA FUDD which is asking for too much. As far as I'm concerned I should be just your name. Ph D I look out of a or MD is okay too but they have all these is F R A S NPR Q. And J. J. J. and all the this guy this is this is a guy you don't trust but go on during a mood today. Man came when I hear that well I looked at up I did. He didn't present himself that way. He didn't say hi. I'm M. B. C. H. B. C. F. R. Essay. He didn't do that. I looked up titles and wrote them down for the show. But okay well. I'd love to hear what they are. Okay is it asking too much? Really? Yeah it really is. It really is you. You prove to me. That Aerosol won't stick around and I'll prove to you that is not enough to just physics okay Interested in hearing what he has to say. Yeah job now. More than ever governments have been using a range of a well in mind control tricks. During the coronavirus crisis the slogans clapping and the symbols have been Catholic used to enable the authorities to take control of our thinking. I'm grateful to Dr Calling Baron Fulmer. Nato's doctor and eminent hypnotherapist. Who's the author of the book practical hypnotherapy for pointing out to me just how our minds have been taken over and how we've been very successfully unscathed skilfully manipulated and to believing the lies? We've been fed elected governments. Aided by specialist behavioral scientists have been brainwashing millions into accepting but coronavirus propaganda. Have your interest who worth one more fifty this is i. I'm reminded of signed I didn't post it on my two hundred eighty but there's this guy cove it. Nineteen is a lie and I had to take. I take a picture and I blew it way up so I could read the documentation. Was He talking about okay? All right so he. He claims that we're being mind controlled and he of course in order to an again ten fifteen minutes video only pulled a few clips. But I think I pulled some better ones. You'll like these better than the dog lipped. Let's would that doesn't get steaks nothing. Oh Jeez sorry Oh man. The worst issued a stern. There's no no I wanted to. I didn't WanNa start with this guy. Okay know let me. Just get into it. Historical cuddle anyway. Are you listening to me? I don't know historical context of mind control as it relates to the corona virus lockdown and crisis manipulating or tricking. The mind is a professional business. And we've been brainwashed on the brainwashing has been very subtle. We've all been quietly hypnotized and indoctrinated to accept the new mass hysteria generated by governments everywhere. Many people now enjoy the lockdown. And they don't want to end it enables them to avoid responsibility for their own lives. Do you remember who said? Open quotes through clever. A constant propaganda people can be made to see paradise's how and also the other way round to consider the most a wretched life as Paradise Adolf Hitler who was a master at mass manipulation in the of subliminal techniques and it was Hitler who also come into. It was a good fortune for governments. The mass of people do not think I never heard those quotes from Hitler. That was new for me. Know we've heard the other ones you know. The goals teller lies the bigger. The lie the more they believe it you tell it could be bullshit. Could be could be but we'll go to now. He's going to apply this to the corona virus crisis and picks up on something that I'm kind of kicking myself over. I think we knew it but he was a long time ago. So how does this idea of mind control work in today's modern environment? Well it's with slogans and marketing countries around. The world have been promoting slogans to persuade their citizens to behave as required and China. There was a slogan which said if you love your parents lock them up. In Taiwan people were told to visit each other is to kill each other at first glance the slogans which are heavily advertise promoted in the UK. Seem harmless enough. We recognize them. Some such as we're all in this together seem fairly innocuous though we baps might be forgiven for that. We're all this all in this together unless we happen to work as advisers to the prime minister the first trio of phrases which were promoted everywhere in the UK. Keep your distance. Wash your hands. Think of others more. Recently new phrases have been added to the repertoire. Stay Home Save. Lives protect the. Nhs does that remind you of anything. Those three three phrase three phrase Three phrases in a row three by three. No I'm sure you're gonNa tell me what what it should have reminded me but I'm already annoyed by the fact that we missed on some of these things like you know protect you. What was it what was he ever the Chinese. Don't lock them up and the Taiwanese Visiting your parents is killing them. Wasn't that your parents visit your peers and kill them. Just say that that's what he said. That's what it was alarmingly. Go back for second. I was coming to visit each other to kill each other. They go to visit each other is to is to kill each other so the three by three yes. Of course we know the three threes casting testing testing chasing chasing chasing isolation isolation isolationism. F- okay. So now let's get into the three by threes. The magic phrases rhythm and patent used in these phrases is not a coincidence. There usually three words in each phrase on the phrases running threes. This isn't a coincidence. It tap chance using phrases of three words presented in groups of three is a technique known as the rule of three and psychological conditioning. Not The reason for this rephrase with which we're all being bombarded we're being trained taught the same time it's behavioral psychology other hypnotherapist appointed. Repeat phrases often enough then the words and thoughts become implanted in our subconscious. Mind and then become a belief which motivates our behavior and so governments repeats slogans which become beliefs. It's called auto suggestion along the lines of every day. In every way I'm getting better and better George Orwell who invented newspeak also understood the importance of the triple three word phrase four. He's futuristic novel which was written in nineteen forty eight all well invented the slogan wars peace freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. If you want a picture of the future wrote all well imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever. And how far away are we? Now that we've got the three by threes and we can identify them gone past it. Which by the way we it's weird kind of. We should be doing that through. We don't do it here. We don't do it over to propagandize people but we don't know what we do. How by the way you get clipper today for finding this care. We'll thank you. I'll take the clip. Before I play the last long goning no agenda CLIP DONATE. No agenda support the show donating his love. We need to think about these things. Man It's not just the three by threes there. Some other behaviors that have been amplified throughout the world. Everything else that's been happening in February twenty twenty s part of the brainwashing process and it's been noticeable at the instructions. Were being given have been more like orders. The signs that have popped up dandelions. Say stand here. Please stand here and why not you? Don't say please to Prisoners Too. And then there is a weeks of clapping for carers. Medical stuff clapping which probably started innocently and with good intentions. I'm sure it did come up. The paradox. Quiet insistent terror that comes from knowing that for all practical purposes is no healthcare. And we've been betrayed by politicians and bureaucrats who decided to devote entire healthcare programs to caring for a relatively small number of patients. Who have though might be so to have or be susceptible to the flu like virus. All this was done as part of the process of mind. Control telling people to stand on their doorsteps at eight. Pm on Thursdays and to clap is a simple repetitive tasks which is part of the massive noces. The clapping mass started out in Asahi but it was quickly and enthusiastically promoted by the people who want to influence our lives persuading people to do what you want them to do. Is Part of the hypnotherapy prosise getting people to KLOPP was also important in that it made people believe in the danger of the coronavirus and the bravery of those working in healthcare. It helped people accept the fact that there were no beds venable for patients with cancer or any other serious disorder. I mean when I heard this I was also a little miffed. Like haven't we haven't looked close enough of this At these Some of it but now we have to think about it. We've looked as close as we can probably more than any other podcasts. Newscast or anybody. That does mainstream media. That's for sure but well we haven't done which it seems to me as I listened to this and I I believe the whole thing. It's a good clip guys. Okay I don't care about his letter's now less concerned but I'll say this only comes coordinating. Who OR WHY? Hello World Co. What's the world coordination and in anybody breaks ranks like Brazil? I mean they get slammed and they don't get slammed by just one or two people. I got to Brazil clip to play. This is the Kovic. Brazil report from France. Twenty four where they just? H- how new this boss narrow because he's not doing what he's told. Brazil's Health Ministry has confirmed one thousand eighty six new Kobe. Nine hundred cases in the past day alone bringing its total death toll to over twenty five thousand. The country is the world's second most affected by the virus after the US according to a recent study under sixties in Brazil are at greater risk of dying from covid nineteen than they are in other countries a trend. That's only exacerbated. The country's poverty-stricken Velez correspondents in Rio de Janeiro. Sentence Report in Rio Pyo MANGUEIRA. The hilltop neighborhood choosy barrows. Forty six year. Old Entrepreneur is barely recovering from the week. He spent an intensive care. Family has actually been following strict quarantine instructions. I'm telling you the more I think about this. And knowing that the actual death rate is very low in the United States has a lower death rate than the Netherlands the Netherlands for all the lockdown zero masks requirement is not even spoken about people. Don't have him in. General is not a thing so it's different everywhere because every faction took their orders or the signal or whatever it was or just saw the opportunity and ran with it. And I don't have to remind you. We had the document from the last show. Which was the British sage the advisory group who literally wrote down in a roster use the media to make people afraid use the media to magic. Shame people if they're not taking personal responsibility for others. Use The media for this. I mean where does that come from. Well it comes and again. Where does all this come from the UK? Government is a great example because it was so small and so transparent. It came from the sage group in that group was Neil Ferguson. With his bogus. Two million model in that group is Is these PR guys. Who were saying we got to do it. This way. These are think-tanks these are outside groups. They advise government. They have t they hang out. In Brussels they go to Paris. They have dinners. What is it okay? That's a good. We'll take it. They don't have time to write legislation all the time. It's the same in Washington is lobbyists. You know it's probably government is just a useful vehicle in my mind. We just tell the right people what to do and they do it. Listen to Boris Johnson. He's already slipping into it. It is it is a huge issue will be on a very small minority of the population of very very minority of the population. And I would just say to everybody that it's it's worth it because that is the way that other that is the tool that other countries have used to unlock the prison to make sure we can go forward. Truth always wants to come out. You're locked in a prison slave. Shut up you said it right. There did well. This is a Yeah I don't think there's anything. They were uncovering here. That is not something that we're targeting constantly but thinking about this age group and some of these other think tanks and the Davos people various these various institutes the brookings and all all come up with this Harry in there. You have to go to. They have to go to the conspiratorial ones. You know that we talked about the builder Burgers in these guys have their meetings and then they do this but I don't see them having the T- The promise. With the big overriding group like let's say the builder. Burgers which have a lot of people go to these meetings. In less there's an inner core people break ranks and they say hey this. I don't like this because not everybody's in agreement about this dis- whole process for some reason. No one is breaking ranks on this behind. Everybody's behind this homeland pulled on this. I think it's much bigger than just the UN. There's lots of people dissenting. There's lots of people's medical professionals. There's politicians what happens to them They could take down off of Youtube. They're censored on your face platform. They're gone because and I was trying to explain the Joe Rogan the other day I said Youtube does not give a flying f. You really they don't. This is just a in a larger context of conversation. They don't give a crap they care about Youtube for messaging its messaging to benefit their overall mission. Which is to repeat. They want to be your bank. They WANNA be your doctor. They want to teach your children. They want to control everything in your house. They want to run your life. They don't Care Hollywood which is ten times above you joe. No disrespect doesn't give a crap and they're gonNA swallow him up. Amazon is already going to buy all the AMC theaters they're going to. Hollywood is dead dead no streaming movies and theaters. They're sucked up. That's just going to be a little bit of collateral damage for these guys youtube twitter facebook is for messaging not for publishing your own stuff. It's for messaging. And that's they don't care they don't care. How many numbers he has. They don't care and who's behind it well again whether this was on purpose or not a couple of we have to remember what happened. China shut down a city of eleven million people. That had never happened before. That was the headline on my God. This must be horrible. That's that was the cue. That was the cue that other countries took that was the the cute trump to stop the travel he based upon the shut down and not allowing flights to go to other places in China which was good information. I think that was a lucky shot on the on his behalf and we were ready for it the same words that are in contagion and and the pandemic movie all of this and you know what even conspiracy theorists who followed event to one zero two meant to a one to one that was actually pre conditioning. You I think the same words are used the same outfits. Nih CDC consulted on those movies. We were ready as all hell to do this. And it was no one had to command. Us. We did it but the mistake was not enough. People died that's why. Msnbc CNN here the NBC network in particular are doing their damnedest to make just horrible still and the true people behind it is of course big Pharma and as we always say big Pharma and China control the media. Let's go to Stephen Colbert. Who HAD Bill Gates on Via his His skype connection and Bill Gates is just getting US ready for what's going to come. The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario. Because they're a path pathogen with a high death rate would be now. The good news is depressions out the rate. Now it most of the work. We're going to do to be ready for pandemic to I call this pandemic one. Most work will do to be ready for. That are also the things we need to do to minimize the threat of bioterrorism pandemic to that is the second wave the whole world is already talking about it and they don't need much to make it look like there's a second wave this you just don't need a lot you actually don't need anything but the media that's right now there's good news because the right now society is very controllable and you could do it at your own macro level if you need to if you wish to you recall the keeper and I got our Cova. Antibodies positive wristbands from our producer in Minneapolis Minnesota right and ironically. Yes and a both are comment was great idea but the wrong color because it was kind of an orangish red which you think would stand for warning. Stay away from this Guy Yeah. Our producer wrote in a note. He's the one that created the band and he did the social experiment he said was going to do and he is reporting back with his results and he has very interesting Situation which I will explain in his note. Let me start by saying. I'm a pilot in the plane crash and a plane crash survivor. That's a story for another time. Everyone including the doctors thought I was dead in a COMA FOR FOUR WEEKS. Thirty plus surgeries later. I'm still here Germane to the story. I have below the knee. Amputation Hemi parasites on that. Same side and scars on my face. That looked me looked like an a military I e D survivor i. I went into Costco now. John you know Costco. You can't mess with Costco with your mask. We have a video online of guy getting kicked out of Cosco no mask. I was walking toward the entrance with my service dog and the Lady said you have to have a mask and she began to reach for one. I can't medical reasons. I showed her the wristband from about six feet away which he saw the red wristband that we're talking about but didn't read the texts. She said Okay and I walked right in Costco without a mask. No stink guy from anyone and they mostly looked at my handsome yellow lab service dog with seeming pleasure next. Stop the doctor summary. I refuse to wear a mask. They said I have to. They call the doctor he was cool with it. No mask when I got up to his office. He noticed the wristband and said Oh cool. I quoted him about me doing a social engineering experiment. And he said. I'm surprised more people aren't doing this another day. Another doctor this time. An eye doctor. This time I was wearing my no agenda shop blue t shirt with yellow in a seemingly militarize militaristic emblem on. It even got a comment where someone's which naval air station. Where you at in this case? I relented wore masks for the first time because they were working less than a an inch from your face. We got through the entire visit and I was just about to leave. He noticed the wristband without me saying anything went into. Hey you know. My brother was tested. He was negative for the antibodies. But another person conversing with the never mentioned the actual wristband next. I went into Costco again this time. The woman didn't even query me on a mass. I was the only one in the store not wearing a mask. No stink guy people seemingly smiling at the Doug all of this in heavy heavy liberal Saint Paul Minnesota so that's interesting indeed and a the only thing I would say been because he did give us that information. It's possible that people are just uncomfortable looking at someone who looks different in the and they become instant idiots and pussies and can't stand by their convictions. Because they're afraid or whatever it is if he looks. Kinda beat up chewed up. Yeah and he's got the dog in the whole thing well the it could be the totality the it could be the whole. The whole package makes it work. Hey Dude I'm sorry but you do have the perfect corona virus crisis package. I mean that is a benefit for downside an upside holy crap interesting someone did catch this on the TV machine. This is local. I think it's actually a this is from San Francisco local station a new way to communicate with other people. Alad social distancing you want or the C nine thousand. Nine hundred project is producing a series of color coded wristbands and buttons designed to let other people know your social distancing preference from traffic light. So red means I of social distancing face readings. I tested positive for antibodies that. I'm willing to socialize normally with other people the project you're saying. The idea here is to reduce people's anxieties we start to venture outside a little more of proceeds by the way. Go to first responder charities people staring at your risks. Now okay style. Local desktop from here. Lift the last eight no that that's KTV K TV you. It's a morning guy. I know who what's interesting is. He made that comment to the newscaster. Who has huge boobs any literally says? I guess there'd be looking at your wrist now I mean. Can you believe I mean that's what I got out of Old Shit? You wait staring at your risks. Now Ninety okay okay. There's HR's involved this afternoon. It better be involved with the point is is that the red probably works in the early stage. The way he's using it but it over time it's going to evolve to the same old thing we've been program for which is green is good. Yes that crazy chart they used to have at the airports. Yeah the color coded threat level that was printed and could never change your. It was always the story a and so really what I'm seeing this less. Just go people. Let's stop this. We need to fight the control. You need to fight back against the government controlling with these horrible things and mask is a big part of it and if someone asked me I'll say I'm from the Netherlands. The scientists dare say. There's no proof. We don't bear masks there. It's like Sweden so leave me alone please please. That's what I'll do. That's my defense. My defense work but unfortunately still you've got these crazy ideas and dumb things that are being done to bring people back safely such in Vegas which is now reopening not casinos. I think you can play it. Slot machines but restaurants is sexual open. Here's a short. Nbc report from the NBC. Nightly News. With Lester Holt across the country in Vegas. Casinos are rolling the dice on opening their doors. Next week I got. Hello nineteen eighty with your puns. Casinos are rolling the dice seriously. How much money thing that guy makes to come up with? This crap makes Gosh while around Los Angeles today. Some shops got back to business for the first time in months to get an answer. The Nation's second largest school district is working on its plan to bring children back to campus in La. It could include sixteen kids to a classroom children eating their lunch at their own desks every child being given one ball to play alone and staggered school. Days the one ball to play a dedic and if I may remind you about the one ball theory has okay just so you know kids you can kick it kick other people's balls you can't touch them. This is so dumb. One Ball enjoy child to get one Crayon to is lame bossing play alone so to wrap it up for me on the on the mind control. And what's being done to us and I think at this point it's all mind control then there and whether it's for various reasons for control reasons or people actually are so freaked out. They think the only thing we can do is mind. Control the people because jet. That's how it works and Big Technology. Companies are all complicit every single one of them. Anyone who comes out of this? Here's what I was thinking when you look at twitter. You have you know so even if I post Oh this is Maurice to home. He has a different idea about About what's going on. I Post my interview with him. And you get responses of people completely unhinged and you know to faulk. You're killing people with your disinformation. I don't have to tell you what it is because everybody gets it. So what the squad's come out in the just all triggered and trip and freaking out and I think that the problem is is really. It is the media. The media is the problem which is slowly being solved. And all what we'll wait. Let me finish it. Let me finish. The media is the problem and this when someone believes they're station or their tribe or the channel or their newscast or whatever is it can be I would say there's a high probability a lot of people watch MSNBC NBC Probably Watch CNN. They probably don't get much other information but they believe that. President trump is a Russian agent that he'd had a quid pro quo that he paid off point. We did paid off porn stars all as much crap. They believe that they being told the truth. So when MSNBC continues to tell you that you're going to die and you need to wear a mask to stay home and roll up your windows and turn off the air conditioner. You cannot but believe the same people who told you clearly the truth about trump so when you see people outside who don't believe in it and are literally willing to risk their life. According to your information I think that has is going to start Were wearing on people. They're going to have to say wait. A minute is my new source completely true because here I am. It's ninety degrees. I'm outside in downtown Austin and I'm wearing a mask and look at all these other people who aren't don't you think that eventually is going to happen. That people will the brain twists too much. You've made this assertion about other things and you. I've doubt come to realize that in some funny way you're amazing and I won't say starry eyed but I will say you're an optimist. Yes I and my will say what you said is no okay. My optimism in DC. No evidence of what? You just said my optimism while there is this show as evidence My optimism stems from the amount of people which is a small percentage but who are just not buying the official story. It's it's a lot of podcasts. Certainly not all. It's a lot of alternative information. The Internet genie is out of the bottle. I don't think when you have ultimately a low death count across the globe. A death death rate that people are going to believe this crap again. A lot of people won't that's for sure probably not the majority but I think that's the I am an optimist and I'll give an example. He not only took one minute from it could actually went on for five minutes. And it's hilarious. This is truly your dimension a dimension be. I don't know if you saw this Joe Kernan who's on CNBC the morning show with Andrew. Ross Sorkin was boy. Genius Wizard Financial kid he's no kid anymore but And they got into a beef but it's very it's suit and it's all about the number saying hey wasn't all that deadly the markets went down. Everyone's everyone who stayed cool is not kind of back to where they are and it looks like there's more upside. Which of course goes against the Andrew. Ross sorkin entire belief and being as he is an an NBC Employees and this happened you panicked about the market panicked about Cova panicked about the ventilators. Panicked about the P. P. panicked about ever going out again panicked enormous if you didn't like about it. What good is it worth their head? I I understand. Thousand people died Joe and all with try to help your friend the president. That's what you did every single morning on this show every single morning show positions position totally on your abuse you can help investors keep their cool keep their head and as it turned out. That's done that's what thank you the new they should the new. Sarah heads if they had listened to you Andrew. We're supposed to be at about eight hundred arguing to go sell your stocks Joseph. I was about people's lives. We understand people's lives Andrew Pan and dues. I'm begging you to do the news. Global pandemic in you. Let's for less back up when you your with your narrative about Sorkin to begin with. He's in New York Times Hack. That's where he began. He was a not any sort of a boy genius financially. In fact he was just a general interest reporter that they place them all over the world. I think I said he was presented as a boy genius. But he's I think he may even be a spook fries me because of his background if you look at his travels you know it's Kinda Spooky. And he was and he's and he's got to look you know he said he does got the blues is just got that look and he was destined to be one of the editors because a contemporary with kind of his younger. But he's a contemporary mark off and other people. I know that work at the Times or work there and he was going to be the USTA boy genius. It was GONNA be in this case. You just said yeah the boy genius but the but the boy genius as a journalist that was gonNA move as way Gibson deputy editor and then take over the place kind of thing and some buddy kicked him out or quit or he wasn't moving fast enough. I'm not sure in any way or like broadcasting there arc. People have done that the camera. He's a he's looking Guy. He wrote these big movies too big to fail. Which was his book He's I think is the CO creator of billions. So he he wrote okay boy. Genius and the financial sense because he's created Entertainment products that deal with the glamorous side of the finance industry. How's that sound will? He is But he is a New York Times New Yorker. He's got that. He has been brainwashed exhibit. This dimension be qualities. This was in as far as I'm Christian. That clip is an embarrassment to him. Yes should be ashamed of himself for being dummy. Yes yes I totally agree totally agree. So the I'm just looking at this. Is this irony. Got spook Till No. It's not a spooked to tell you. I remember when this happened. Markov was given the opportunity to do this. They took a a word press template and created the sinkhole deal book and Sorkin was given you know he I think view was like second or third on the list of You. WanNa do this as a blog. It was in the New York Times log. Okay and everybody. At The New York Times go blog studios took it and ran with it and this is what gave me. This was his launching pad. Dropped the ball on this. Remember this and then he started doing these other things including too big to fail anyway. But you can. You can see kind of what's go- and you know what's his face. Joe Kernan also a New Yorker. He probably isn't the probably both live in Connecticut. But you know what D- what the what the argument was from Sorkin. That was telling. Was you just doing it to help your friend? Donald Trump I mean Jeez by the way I fully recognize that I often play the role of sorkin arguments and I need to work on that. Because it's very embarrassing. Because she got a little unhinged yeah I get on hand sometimes sometimes each other time. Though today it was very backed off so quickly man I had to like I was I was gene. Point my gun at. Yeah we talking about back about got. These doves. Dave moved in where I had mocking birds in the neighborhood. Two or three pairs of they're melodious and these idiot. Doves interest burnt interrupt for one second. Did you literally just go from a story about us? Arguing to sending me a dove is that we I should say we. That's it is similar. I have no idea how much I hate these birds. Do I do now okay. So what's the point? Where are they? They're all over the place of company and they moved out the at factors less crows. And there's there's dubs we have a bunch of different Subcultures of birds around here. They're Blue Jays crows ravens but these doves have moved and they've never been here before and they moved out all the song birds and all they do is go. Ooh ooh Hoo. Ooh Put they make no sounds at other than that. It sounds I thought an owl was up your during the day and it was like Ooh the worst. It's driving me nuts. So that's why I'm on edge. Do you have a firearm or a bow and Arrow about. I'm going to get a rifle. Humid start picking them offer BB gun. Bb Gun won't kill him then. Act Pellet gun yeah no appellate or you need the pellet gun the co two with a little darts you can put in the little small darts. Yeah it's hard to penetrate. I think I need a raincoat. Twenty two how about a three eighty? Acp I mean. Come on man about it. What's your problem here the discharge? That's what at the replied. No because California. The you know what be careful. May you got all the Karens around their Berkeley and we build actually around my neighborhood. It's all Chinese. Oh okay well good all right one more thing. I talk about as we as we're talking about. The messaging of the government and how Silicon Valley is an and again this so-called. We're only we're censoring the censoring conservative on twitter. Era is the real reason for this is about the advertisers. I'M NOT GONNA go through it all over again. The advertisers don't want to be anywhere where there's controversy and the advertisers live under cancel culture for the ad buyers the executives and the brands themselves. So that's why anything that is. Not In line is taken down. What is in line? Well that's whatever the big mess mission is There is an issue with the so-called censoring of social media networks. And that is it there These networks were allowed to grow wasn't under under Clinton initially not Clinton did the note no taxes online and then we got section to thirty of Is that the which act was that section two thirty. I should know this. I think it was the same. Yeah section to thirty what it says. At what enabled these companies to grow and many companies to grow is if you operate a computer servers where people can. It's the communications decency. Act where people can post as long as you are not editorializing what people post then you cannot be held liable for what people are posting. It's literally that simple. There were very specific exceptions in section two thirty and I show a read them to you because the If you are an operator. So for instance no agenda socials a very good example Although no one really owns it. But let's just say something shows up there and it's really bad for somebody else and it's a A lawsuit can be brought against That person which would be difficult considering anonymity etcetera but you can never sue me for hosting it. The only reason twitter facebook youtube you name it can take stuff. Down is the specific protection and you are allowed to remove a content that is and this is always broad but we've heard these before obscene lewd lascivious filthy excessively violent harassing or harassing or otherwise objectionable. And what is taking place? I rations derived pronunciation in the Goja the alternative. I believe that even the use of algorithms is editorializing but certainly removing things that is not for one of those reasons can be considered editorializing. The debate is not old. It's been going on for a long time. And now there's a draft executive order which is out there so I'm going to It's called Preventing online censorship. It looks legit. The languages legit. It has a big draft stamped on it so well. I'm pretty sure this was leaked to send out a message to To twitter who of course started fact checking the president's tweets and they've I think Marco Rubio will be leading a Senate committee and they're going to drill down and find out. Yeah sure they're going to drill down and find out if there's gambling going on there those silicon valley companies and so here is what the deceptive practices. That will be looked at the White House. Office in digital strategy will submit all complaints. We're going to open up the complaint line again the working group Shell so only looking editorializing but you also collect publicly available information regarding or creating watch lists of users based on their interactions with content or users that I think is a legal term for algorithms but they also specifically give some examples likes follows time spent also tracking and they will need to report on monitoring users based on their activity off the platform which is of course another issue that I think definitely looked big one. Yeah facebook you even have an account anymore yet. They can track me everywhere. I don't even think it's that I think people have been kicked off of facebook for doing something else outside of the platform correct correct to that too but it could also mean tracking people through credit card data. Purchase could mean a lot of different things so anyway. This is now bubbling up. And we'll have to see what happens. I will say that the the entire idea I would like to third to be held for sure for sure but real Mika Brzezinski is doing. I don't think so I don't think so but I do the I think trump may whatever he wants if he gets reelected. I hope he does something about it the way I see our future. And here's where I'm not such an optimist. I believe that in the future the act of not using a Silicon Valley platform on the Internet will become the definition of hacking on the Internet. I can see it coming down Broadway. It'll be illegal systems illegal sites and the people already conditioned people know that you can do other stuff on the Internet. I have no clue sick. That the Eero in Erin Wisconsin entrenched on AOL. Yes I ERIC. Concerns Keyword. No agenda. Okay this is the way to go this is you have an Internet account got AOL O. L. A. O. L. stupidly put a link to the Internet was a mistake. Well you remember how that went it was. Here's a very dangerous place and you had this click. Yes I understand click. I know what's happening. Yeah I'M OKAY WITH CLICK. Click and you got a little crappy browser which violate format. Everything wrong and different from the standard. Which is day was NCSA mosaic but that was exactly it because it was secretive and dangerous. Hello that's where you WANNA go. That's where kids always go. They should should've done now. Had it at all like what's the point or they should just damn who needs the Internet? So you watched. Minneapolis what was your takeaway. Would you would you learn well? They went nuts. I was watching the live feeds. It started your Brian bed when most of this happened. Ola destroys now I saw some. I saw some Around ten PM so they started during the day. It actually started. Looting this is all over the guy that did for cop two four fired cops one of probably going to get indicted killing some some guy who'd probably was minding his own business for all practical purposes supposedly busted for in the process of committing a forgery. That was the the hell does that. Mean the aisle you tell me that was the call so the cops came. He's resigning a bad check or something. I don't even know what it means. And so the guy. The guy didn't seem to be a troublemaker. By any means the next thing you know. He's down on the ground they've choking him to death and he is so. I can't breathe moment. Yeah I can't breathe breathe and then you may. I may point out. We just heard a callback to George Orwell. The future is a Jack Footed boot on humans head forever and that's exactly what this was exactly and escape okay. Knee Jackboot So so this was on Monday and so by Wednesday they. They were mayor that most of the you have to know. The entire state of Minnesota is a social justice warrior. Democrats stay Alon Omar State. It's Ilan Omar State. But knowing that put the mayor's in fact the two mayors both members of the same. Democrat Labor former PRO party which is a Democrat Party that is merged with the farmer Labor Party back in the forties and became the deal if I thinks the name of as is the moniker. And they're all the Democrats in Minnesota or in this party and it's and it's one of its candidates is socialism social justice. And so they're all do-gooders have a stateful of these guys to two mayors for example or the mayor I'm sorry of of Minneapolis had dated a runoff. They have the runoff second place. I play two first place. Vote do a second place. Vote in. And you have a run off between the two top winners and a two top winners. Were both from the same exact Democrat Farm Labor Party. There's no even a hint of anything other than these liberal liberal liberals and so they're beside themselves in this situation because the black community didn't see the wheels of justice moving fast enough about these these four cops even though there were fired immediately. The mayor came out and demanded that the district attorney file murder charges or something against one of the cops. They were moving pretty fast. Because we're talking Monday Tuesday So okay I thought that they were moving fast but not fast enough and it looks like a lot of it was pent up to four. Shot your first their stock. They're staying at home. There'd be a lot of by the way somehow Nancy Pelosi's gotTA blame trump for this point. We wouldn't have racism if it wasn't for trump. Yeah that's the point as so. They second home so they started looting the target and as it does mall and they start looting the stores nearby and their liquor store and so they started in almost organiz looting. The employees all left in the cars are just driving in up to the gate. People run and grab stuff and put it in their car and drive off and it was just. It was all live on on TV. 'cause there is a chopper above the whole scene with a with. I you know. Some of these lenses people'll realize you're looking at Atlantic cost ten grand that can zoom in with a how Hamad Yeah. These are forward looking infrared. cams thirty days and were just as a regular regular one of those log long. They got stabilisers. Gyros stabilize and these lenses down there. So you're looking right into the target and you see these people in and out running in and out and and then later this of the bigger surprises they burnt down the whole area and so they they burnt down most of it and it was like A. I don't know what the Democrat Labor Party whatever's which by the way this I. I personally feel bad about this because this hurts my essay that I sent out on Tuesday talking about Amy Klobuchar. Getting a shoe in for the pick. I think our chances are now been. They've been hurt by this because Kobe. Char's part of this whole machine. That is Minnesota Party. Oh no I I disagree. I think she You know how much I like. Earth love with her so this is not with her. But you ruined her chances. You ruined her chances. When you said this Koba Char's in assholes e you said that and it was over. Everyone hated her. After that it was done. Chanceless is isn't Essel so so she I think your chances go or maybe not but I don't know who else are GonNa Pick. But she's going to have to distance yourself from the state a little bit but that state is a mess in terms of the fact that has been taken over the entire upper level government that the governor and they don't know how to handle it the look at the people who they are handlers. Not leaders the political activists. You do you do. You actually summarized it better than I have been doing. They don't know how to and you're right the pent up being being locked up. And there's lots of pent up energy and and I think this is the first just the first a pullback of the covers of what I'm sorry I I would say government and our local governments but according to Cuomo. We did it. Ourselves is the people. This is just the first of many things we're going to discover. These people may may. They're probably poor. Been locked up the jobs a problem health problem food a problem and then the police are killing people with with a neon their head. Bro. This is bad news. This is just the beginning and I was saddened myself here. I am the guy who thinks that you know the Internet and the free access and getting information out will help. And here's the clip. I got everybody has on his live right now. Make sure you subscribe to my channel right now. People out there. Trolling for followers man. I can't handle it anymore. Man who gives me some likes Bro. Just too much so. This situation administers has to be analyzed. Is going to be a serious problem for the Democrats although they're gonNA make somehow make trump trawl? Somehow I if it wasn't for racism at the you know it's They're they're they're screwed. I think the state is in really bad shape. I didn't realize how bad is shape. It was in until I started looking into the party. Politics that go on there. They've they've just been taken over by these social justice types that's how Yulon Omar guidance of all people. She's an anti-american. Yeah Yeah and a lot more is happening in California. I you know what I'm not going to not as bad believe me. Take my word for it. It's not it's it's not as bad as it looks and Gavin newsom wants to be President United States and he's not going to let things get out of control or But we'll he have control. I don't know if someth- La is good at riots man and they're still locked but L. A. Will San Francisco's. No slouch industry. Have a good day. Have good looting that goes on San Francisco. Well done Samphran but it doesn't always use after an earthquake or something where where people say. Well the lights are off the powers down. Let's go loot. Yeah but L. A.'s. Where they have that where they start burning the place down San Francisco. They don't burn the place down well. On that happy note. I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you. The man who put the sea in cool mask. John's seat of macwell in the morning. You Michelle Korean ownership. Ciba's Rafi in the air subs Dame's nights out there in the morning to the troll room that. Oh trolls us. Check Noodle troll checks if people are home at work they I think well fifteen twenty six as a lot of trolls. We're getting back in a little bit. Yeah we're I think people opening getting back to work. They can't listen as much as they'd like to live at least Thursday live at least him. Otherwise we're doing okay. No AGENDA STREAM DOT com. 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I don't know normal complaint or no so okay well I like to piece it. Hit the spot and then Riley's good. So what was the views clipboard? It was legal. I'm sure no yeah. I'm not talking about so much about the Galilee and the other things were yeah. It was nothing really hit quite like that one and I have to say the more I see art that just pops the more the more the better I think it is sometimes just too much going on and these these pictures show up little. Yeah we have to probably go on thinking maybe we should have like a guy like an artist guide. That's you're you're in charge of that division. I think I've been talking about the last five years. Yeah so where is it was your TPS report pretty much exactly that yes thank you. Mike Riley no agenda are generated dot. Com is where you can see all the submissions. It's used everywhere and we encourage that including no agenda shop dot com who Put It on mugs. T shirts hoodies etcetera and cut the artists in the show. 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He was treating people who had developed into developed AIDS disease messed up skin. Severe fatigue and weight loss figured out the biological clock of the virus. And what have his patients take dosages of Vitamin A. C. E. Several Times a day at the time the virus was dormant. They would do this one month per year. They remained HIV positive. But were cured. In a sense they could live. Normalized without symptoms by grandfather received wide public credit for his work and was able to help millions of people in collaboration with dozens of doctors and health organizations. He reached out to not the Dutch deal like the eighties jokes. They won't allow it enough said well. She's doing English. So I really liked the Maurice. The dog interview but I'm also confused is saying that Corona viruses new. No one has antibodies. Doesn't that contradict? The fact coronas since the sixties or longer at could be. I don't know if so doesn't it mean a lot of us have do have antibodies regardless he provided some excellent. Do's and don'ts during any flu season thanks dog okay. Enough babbling much love to you. Adam John No agenda family anyone else there who gives a damn thank you very much dame of the crystal. I think I know who you're You're dad is I've read this. Read stuff about him very interesting. Thank you very much for your courage. I wear with Adam. Schefter Sheva Chev- sheaves chef chief. Choose to two hundred dollars is in Austin Texas there were and he only has one comment more. Kaley clips and the audience demands. John's Oh you got to. You got a little helping today yes. She's she's hanging in there tonight on the east side White Bear Lake Minnesota. Two hundred dollars this came in before the riots special mentioned to a song within two written in two thousand eighteen by the spill canvas mothership hive. Mind shoutout to the boys in the band gives us song listener. Play a clip in the show New Jersey House Sale Karma please all the same the S. K. O. E. S. goes met Ataman the keeper in the domain. Meet Up. I have pictures. Mothership Hive Mine. Prophetic lyrics verse one. I am the virgin dirt resting by the wasteful race of Earth. Bill be sorry when I'm gone in the air infected but nobody seems to care till they're choking on disease chorus one. You can blame it all on my new generation. We just don't have a clue at least that's what the media says. So you know you're no you know That it must be true. Odd Nail Cabinet Not GonNa read this whole song. It goes on too long. And so he which will check the song out and then that he ends without any requests. I think he sent me a copy of it which of course I can't just play a pain just play with. That's a sure. Fire Way to get in trouble but the east side. Thank you very much for. Your support is highly appreciated. And he wanted he wanted car. 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No but this time you got the note and you said don't worry I'll take care of it on the note back to her and I had this e c of it. Okay so let me go take a look because now. I have to look for an email with some make. Good Note Sean Smith. Okay hold on Donna. Data data data data. I actually don't have the outlook. Wait how do I spell? Shawn's name on a w Chiesa so painful Smith. Okay Smith where here make good make good make good? Oh guess what. It's nice and long dear. Podfather had executive producer credit on Sunday. Show twelve forty five mask up. Which by the way is a slogan that we're now seeing on road signs mascot your no agenda show once again from the future. There was a mistake in the ring of my note. Emphasis added by me. John was apparently reposed on his shaved lounge. What why do I get the damn note? If you're responsible. 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He needs thirty three to the head. Shot up slave. I think we can do that. Foia me get it said Bajic done done. Make good fulfilled happy about it. Yeah he got out of it but I mean the other woman is in the vortex. She's a we lost three times and she's in the vortex this happens by the way she should be his a privilege. Guess you should be very proud to be indulging really stuck in the VORTEX FOR. I think a couple of years now crazy when it happens like that is unbelievable in fact but it's part of our DNA. It's part of the way. Okay boomer how we roll so I wanNA thank these executive associate executive producers for show twelve forty-six. They've made made this all possible. Oh my goodness thank you so much. Everybody great Support Executive producer credits and associate executive producer. Credits headed out handed out right here. Please use those anywhere where they are recognized. 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But that'd be a good way to end the show because it is cool. I have now we got such a nice compliment during the during the donation segment. There there was something I wanted to share with you. Because you weren't on the email this is from Dr Hamilton. Md is that is. Is that a crackpot. Md Or is it a good thing I said when I said my my complaint specifically said. Md IS OKAY. Okay great it. Adam and Johnny. I don't know why he says Johnny his words not mine while as a practicing physician in a low covert volume. I am most impressed with your coverage of all aspects of the Wuhan Crud episodes twelve forty five and twelve forty two or forty four and twelve. Forty five both had especially top-drawer segments which dovetailed with all other separate credit reports. I have uncovered about this. Nothing on the M Five M can be believed and all of these reliable sources. I have identified. The reports are actually the best. Both you guys especially you. Jcd ARE DOING A bang-up job here so sale so sad that the no agenda Journal of Medicine is the is the best thing out there on this topic. What does that tell you sincere? Thanks from microscopic Amiga Dr Hamilton. Md back to shows before that Adam was doing yeoman's work so he just liked us does reports that got from that twenty podcast. I have a. I have a public service announcement for the tribe. I had a massive fail. Epic FAIL I F up royally on Monday and I apologize for it and some of you notice it. Not but some will day young. Yeah Monday I think I messed up Monday. I'll tell you what happened. I recorded a facts and said on Monday. They were gonNA push it off. No I said on Sunday that we would have done it Saturday. Yeah I know I know the days run together for me to So and it was late because it was two and a half hours there was a lot of it was it was all about the you. I'M BLACK FROM BIDEN. So you can imagine it was a damn good shots and there's a lot going on so. I published it and accidentally I publish the Mo- facts with Adam Curry. Feed onto the no agenda feet which meant that for a brief moment. Anyone who's APP or anything checked it pulled in All of the facts episodes into the agenda. Just a chest when you're gonNA take over and you're going to kick me off and ends. This was just a test what it was and so I knew. You'RE GONNA take it that way so I switched it back of course but there is some cashing with some of these APPs till you may have Eh like one no agenda show and then a whole bunch of both. The easy is just unsubscribe resubscribe. It'll get fixed and don't want anything else. That's new will pop in where where it belongs no I. I'm sorry I was not at all. Bill Gates tried to Gut Paul Allen out of the come and did he do it the same way. Yeah same by just change. The and that was the end of it no. I'm not the have to call me and anything because it was a mistake now I do have one other thing that very interesting the call went out to replace the no agenda show notes search and we have three developers who contacted me and three three developers developers developer has it and that's hdv boy. And so I pointed him to all the files and where to get everything and one of them. I've not heard from again. But one of them was steak plant. This handle he starts cranking and he's got something good go and I'm getting a little bit of feedback and then he sets a domain which is no agenda query dot. Edu make sure that's what it is now agenda Query Dot e. Which of course you know. It's just no it's not It doesn't matter what it is. I'm glad it's not that because I don't want anyone to really see. Yeah because it's not ready. He's also doing a feedback loop on no agenda social people feeding back and is fast and kick ass and then last night. I think it's the same guy. But no someone's done no agenda query dot com and it's very similar very similar so now we have to search engines being developed. I'm not quite sure what to do with that situation. Other than I'd hoped that all developers would kind of go on June Jin Social Dot Com? Oh no agenda QUEST DOT com. That's what the regional ones too. It just all it all. It's going to be our our regular being at dot. Io but whatever it is do we do. We see these guys can work together and come up with ways normally done in in the old fashioned. Ibm sense things number. We're not we are kind of IBM at this point if I were the IBM of podcasters which is good and bad. Ibm used to teams out to do the exact same job as ever making money. They can afford to do this. They'd send two teams out and then they just let him go to the point. Where one of them's was superior to the others. And then maybe they could join forces after that. I think they should continue their quest until they get to a point where I think this is a bad as far as I can take this and then we'll just look at one. Look at the other and say well. This one's good Anyway what will happen is a one gal? Have some ideas at the other guys won't think about and get incorporated after the whole thing is. The process is finished it up now. No AGENDA QUEST DOT com. You just take a look at it for one second. How kick ass this is. It's so much better than what we had before. And it's and it's fast and the results show you all the stories. It's got linked to the episodes linked to the I mean he's putting in transcripts is going to be great really good. Here's the only request I have as as developers do stuff for us and this is the where we got burned and I think we can solve some of that now. If you set something up like you know a search engine or player or whatever external site you have please please please consider daca rising it and and allowing me to have a copy of that. Yeah you know what that is right. What an idea. Hey this is nice. Isn't that great and this is kick ass. Let's face it. People listening to this show are above the Pale smarter than the average bear. This is our Manhattan project is dynamite. Yeah Good Shit Right. I'm so far I just needing to get too fancy doesn't well. I would like I said like the links for the we have archives of every single every link is a story and we have the archive for it. Wait no so there should be a bunch of clips the bottom and you can do all kinds of stuff you can search on it's So pleased docker. Is it so that we can have a copy? It's not what it's called is called. Dockery's document is a document your code. No Sir do you know what a doctor is? Docker is Revolutionary Shit. That's been going on technology where you can save the entire machine into basically a digital been handed to someone else. They can booted up on them and it works docker dot. Io is documenting. The code would be a good idea. It's docker containers. What I don't care about I don't care about documenting the code. Just give me a docker container. So they can be relaunched somewhere if you die if you forget your whatever. It is going to happen if someone else needs to come in. Because that's where I messed up. I didn't ask for that before. We have no access to the people or the code or anything good point so yes but you're right. Ultimately we have some smart people. Most I think all of our people are smart so here. We go without a play. The glue controversy. That was created. We talked about a little bit last week. About trump making some comments about Joe Scarborough being a murderer Even knowing ever said Dad reopened in case I initially I was turned off by this whole story. People sending me links. I'm not interested. I don't give a crap. Well tell you what is changing my mind. Trump is hammering this. He's not stopping he's making really big insinuation. 's about this being something a cold case that deserves to be reopened. He's not an idiot. Despite what many think. Well the reason couple of comments here one. I want to say to the artist. I do get to joke that you had in the cover art for the last Show I don't know who else got the joke but I got it and that refers to they had a picture of Scarborough with a black tear or tattooed face gang. Talk for killed. Somebody Nice refers back that Kaley referred back to this Don Imus clip of scarborough joking around about it and I thought she handled this questions and answers on the scarborough think poorly because all she really had to do is read trump's tweet and say where does he say this. Where does he say that because he 'cause they've re you know the media's been reading and he's accused him he's done this? He's not hasn't done any of this but let's just to say just for for people who don't exactly know what we're talking about. Joe Scarborough is of the morning. Joe Show Meka Joe. And he used to be a senator or Congressman Congress- Congressman Andrew. Gwon Don Imus was a famous New York radio talk show host who predates Howard stern a little bit But definitely competed different kind of show. But that same you definitely brashness et Cetera. And He's dead now so that's easy Kaley clip so no no. I'm going to play the clip. Okay because Kelly referred to this. I don't have this Kaley clips about something else. I just wanted to for because she said you. Listen the clip. The I'm is. You gotTA listen. They so I found the AMAS clip had found a second clip of a year later. Because I miss I forgot was actually on. Msnbc for a while with the show it was simulcast it gave him a spot and they bump them and then scarborough was brought onto Msnbc and then after they bumped amas they put scarborough off. That's the part I didn't understand interesting. And and then I and then apparently scarves bragging about how. He's doing so much better when he wasn't and a and this was triggered by Mrs. I'm was irked by this. And then he slammed. Scorebook garber also has given a syndicated radio show which was a flop and that got kicked off the air and then he ended up stuck on. Msnbc FOR THE MORNING JOAN. That was the end of it but before any of that happened. We had the meeting the first time. We're buying MRS welcoming him you know. Oh welcome to the families. Msnbc FAMILY HE ETHIC ZACH. Words mine so let us know what happened. This is the clip one and this is what this is. Their exchanged at Keighley. Wanted us all to listen to but occasionally. We're going to try to help you. And you've just right. Charlie got the listen. Tell me what I needed to know. You're doing great. I mean don't be afraid to be funny because you are funny. That was a bit. I ask you why you wanted Congress that sexually and turning you had to learn mean. It's pretty risky to say. Do you can be very good. I actually like Keith. Olbermann and I like Matthews great go work out for you. What's going to be good line find and the guy who then BBC WOMEN NBC? Looks like they're gonNA stick with US and they did with Donahue think glad they were impatient weddings. I think it's GonNa work out Chievo Dry to take the time to do this. I appreciate it and thank you very much. Well thank you question. What kind of name is Imus created a Willis look? This is a book of knowledge. This is probably a good idea. Do you have the book of Knowledge? I don't have it on the floor when you open it. Then it talks. I Miss Let's see ways. He's got his last name. Okay Yeah I guess his last night of course makes what am I. What am I thinking Imus John John? John is Israel first name John. Donald Imus Okay so So anyway that took place and he had two little back and forth and he said Hi. Yeah I guess what are you GonNa do by killed or something okay? Fine to Tandel that differently. Let's put it that way so now a while goes by and I must is now been bumped from. Msnbc STILL has a radio GIG. And he's now he hates scarborough to to an extreme. I mean this clip is really funny so yesterday dumb and dumber went on radio scarborough. Yeah and let me let me. I'm going to speak slowly so scarborough understands this. And what's her name and so David Henkel and others? I'm GONNA speak slowly. His radio show canceled. Revamping anything he will never ever be on. Wabc in New York again ever and probably never on any Saturday'll radio station ever again ever. They're not revamp. It was a story just to let everybody save face asked the people like federal. Here's what kind of Guy Scrubbers? What a what a disgusting backstabbing phony check. It good to be by check call human resources at NBC. Find out how many people have filed complaints against do that. Then he says bigfoot he took over for us online at fired quadrupled the ratings or the facts. Well the fact is about the same that they had when you left and they're getting about half of what you got when you were at your height. Msnbc when we were at our hydrogen between seven and eight hundred thousand people. I know they're pulling through fifty nine. That's about what we were so he's lying about fast and he's I'm busy line about getting blown out of the radio. Why they got blown out because they suck and he's a punk off the phony after some vicious when me but that's exactly what does it all tie back to him Killing the I don't know that it does have the one thing I did a little research and killing the Internet and the only thing that's kind of fishy is at the initial coroner said it was he was. She was killed by a blunt force trauma. Dinner Club which is hard to do if you just hit your head on the desk. And he was fired and replaced by a coroner who said that she had a heart condition surmise that she must have got dizzy even though she was an inveterate jogger and nobody ever seen her pass out but she got dizzy. I O and fell and hit the desk with her head And that's how she died and so that's big. That's the controversy right there nutshell well. It's odd because trump is hammering on the first of all who gives a crap about this. Does he really care? Did you really care with us when he does? He does trump. He cares because he does not like scarborough and Brzezinski ragging on him constantly. Okay all they do on their so the for him to do this he has to know. There's something behind it. He doesn't typically unless it's just agree with you. You know that's kind of leary met. He's always coming up. That's where the bug. My Office is all these things I mean. He says stuff that is like off the wall and then I don't know sometimes it's six months sometimes a year later. It's always comes true. So he somebody somebody there's some hanky-panky going on the also knows these guys. They used to hang out at mar-a-lago with them. The used to your friend's House Joe. Doing because I of course I talked to mow about the whole You Ain't black thing and I was curious what you you've been tracking Joe. I think I have been dragging Joe. There's nothing new from Joe. I may accept the the thing I put in a newsletter. Where as possible? That you know a stunt double out there and because you can't tell who it is could be anybody put sunglasses in a big black mass. It covers your neck and face. You can't see you don't know who this is. Someone said that it was possible that he had just you know since he was out. He had gotten this botox treatment. So it was bowled. Joe Versus Some puffiness for a few days Joe. Because I would've looked like to me to I could be. I got a little face job and is the new Joe. The new joined the black mask is worse looking. He's got his face more of a mess. What I could tell. And that's the that's the new mask. That is the mask of the Tarde. It goes all the way up to your is. It fits you know completely like a almost like something. From Medieval Times did you say Mascot? The new tarred yes. That is what I said. It just slipped out. I'm sorry you know what I just ordered. I ordered like mask. No I ordered one at a costume version for about forty bucks off Amazon. It's one of those Like seven s eighteenth century beak masks. That the doctor would wear with. Looks like a bird long? Yes I've seen these did these are around. That's that's the I want to go out really early. Sunday from a throwback to Egypt or something. Oh no actually. There's this I wanted to mention. This is fantastic series on. Hulu the great which is about Catherine the great of Russia. And it's kind of black adoration where it's Well first of all this show is everything that you want in it it's It has sex violence food crazy stuff killing murder war Just nutjob insane things. Because it's Russia in the seventeen hundreds and how Catherine the great came Came to power. Which is a great story. This is ninety. Nine percent fictional. But they've put in the little the little bits about her Inoculating herself with the with smallpox with a little bit of the Because I guess that's what they discovered back then as if you know this is basically the the whole concept of vaccination or they weren't doing with needles. They take a little bit of the one of the the pox victims and then rubbed that an open wound and she did that. She did that in front of the in front of you know whoever the whole court to they could all see that she was serious about it but in that one of those guys who one of those beak massing was fantastic so scary looking real one. I want to see you in this mask. Oh Yeah Oh you get by the way I should match. I did have smallpox vaccine when I was a kid moon until gave him. Yup and they. It was not any normal. It was like nothing today. That's that's the one that gives you the Marquis of a pockmark. Poxy aren't you'll get a you get a scar but it's not like A. It's the I don't know how they even get the dip it in something. I'm not sure but it's a series of about as I remember about ten needles just pound year with these. Is these little poke holes and this was a way. It was done Anyway back to the clips. Yeah since we mentioned K. Them as the clip out of the way I was going down Biden. But it's okay we can. We can Blimey I go back to and I. I don't have much okay when you go back to because I WANNA play this. Crystal Ball Clip. Who has a WHO? I don't like any more than I used to. But 'cause the way she talks and acts. Let's let's listen to her first crystal ball. Yeah this is crystal ball talking about things. Relevant just looking at the title of the CLIP and may be relevant to Mike Clips. Misses her. She's talking about the guidance fouled up. Which is what you were going to talk about. Lockstep in a block whatever community. You're coming from whatever perspective you represent if you're gonNA vote lockstep for the Democratic Party. They're going to take that for granted but at best and at worst they will actively kick you to demonstrate their reasonableness. That's what counter scheduling is all about. And that's basically. The fundamental innovation of the Democratic Party in the last thirty years is that political strategy which has been in some ways successful and this is all communities remember. I mean both parties take very much of their basis for granted and rhetorically and whenever they come to DC. What do they do? They end up serving the interests of big money. All right yes. This makes a lot of sense in context what what was discussed the facts with Adam. Curry was specifically a dos. Or we're not gonNA pussyfoot around People of Color African American commended. I now it's eight American sense of slavery. Their vote has been consistent for the Democrat Party. And if you want to know why should listen to that? Podcast is a lot of episodes to talk about it. It has always been a given and it really broke with Obama when okay we got one of ours even those not totally true but at least he's married to Michelle in the White House. We're going to get stuff done. And the disappoint was quite large after eight years of President Obama. And they've not done pretty much nothing for For a Dawson and at this point there's been such a movement and you do have a political movement but I'm really talking about the people themselves not in the political movement and they are looking for something and What's not going to cut? It is a piece of paper that says lift all voices which is Joe. Joe Biden so called black agenda that says for sure. We're GONNA do a study to see if reparations possible where they just had a study it was a whole there was a it was a it was an act bill for the study. It's not going to happen but he he he. His answer was so It was perceived by many as slave masters shut up. I already got your vote. I don't just be quiet. I mean I'm only here for these fifteen minutes because because I have to I have the black vote and that is what I think crystal ball is talking about. They don't have the black vote. They don't have the votes vote. They used to already in two thousand sixteen. The the Black Block vote that the Democrat Party Council had already diminished by several points and it is most belief and I'm with him that the a Democrat right now can no longer win. Because too many a dos voters are taking the third option which is not to vote and So this will happen on Charlemagne the Gods Radio show the breakfast club. And even though he's a she'll for camera key and joy Reid who was another horrible person They say the same thing even though they all say they're going to vote for Joe Biden. Of course they will but the message is true. Do you do you think there's a risk that not just by the Democratic Party in general just takes for granted that well the black black people are with us so we don't really have to give them anything else they're going to vote for. Us know regardless look voted for Joe Biden in overwhelming numbers. Six and ten black borders particularly in southern states. They voted for Joe Biden. We don't need to offer anything more. Do you worry that? That is the attitude that Democrats are taking toward the black community. I mean I noticed attitude you know I mean that's why I don't care about the words in the lip service and the apology is cool but the best apology is actually a black agenda. You know they gotta make some real policy commitments. The black people we gotta stop back in like the fact that blacks are over represented in America when it comes to Welfare Poverty Unemployment Homelessness Drug Addiction Crime Corona virus like. That's no accident like the whole function of systemic. Racism is the marginalized black people. And as the Great Dr Claude Anderson says in the book nominee White Society has an OUTTA sight outta mind attitude about racism and they don't have any discussions of substance about just to make racism. So when you have black people who have the nerve to audacity to unmitigated gall to act like citizens and demand something about votes. It's a problem that you got whites telling done enough to stay in place and you've got a black people saying Oh stop now is not the time. You're going to get trump reelected. It has to come to a point where we stop putting the burden on black voters. Show for Democrats and stop putting the burden on. Democrats to show up for black voters in. It was actually Mo had an example and he said so what if had he played a clip of Biden. Speaking to a pack of course a very different tone with a pack than with the breakfast club the part of that is because he's trying to be Mr hips. Let me five on the backside and stuff like that. No you can't do that job but the It reminds people who have been around for a little bit and who good voting age that this truly has always been this way with. I'll just say it white liberals Malcolm X spoke about it quite clearly liberal liberal out the white man in the south here in doing the same thing. They had been making a great over. The South only complained that what is happening here in the north and now that the math is twenty million eagerly white fat here in the even more common bigger than the white in the phone will always victory but he's not in the white liberal. The your friend pull your benefactor. They should win. Board stakeholder been neighborhood. Hurt your lawyer trying to infiltrate free all your organization and in this man by guiding you they spring on your don't greet them and Corey Quad. Integration in Greek stole the bottom line. Is that at this point and Mos little younger than I am. I think he's in his early. Forties key is sick and tired of being identified as Black American. I'm sick and tired of this shit. And the Democrat Party and the media that supports them. Continue to do this. And it's I think that that no one at this point in time can win the presidency as a Democrat. I think there's going to be at least know the three if not five percent not showing up to vote at all and it will make it impossible for Democrat to win in the current environment. I think they have problems. Tori has service. Yeah but you know. A lot at the media is still way behind them. I mean the promise. They can't resist promoting trump by accident. I mean they know that this was the problem in the first go round if they had never written about trump put him on the entertainment pages on the health. Posted that all. Let's put it on the remember that this is so funny. Let's it's not exactly and then they were mocking him and right and did covering his speech is getting people to listen to them. They brought it on themselves. I mean if they didn't want trump to be president they should have just ignored him. More or or at least played. Bernie debuted again. They didn't want Bernie either so they're really working for the bankers and so they end up in giving Hillary that get enough promotion and when she gets it was a mess and they're doing the same things I got mean. So they're trying to throw a trump two guys at cre- is a rapist. He's worse than Joe. The I mean. It's it's interesting interesting thing. Is that joy reid. Now armed? With this knowledge she is not a dos by the way Armed with this knowledge bushy a Haitian or a yes. I believe so island were not Pacific Atlantic. She resigned Barbados at one of those but she recognizes that she recognizes that. This is the strategy. You've got to do something for black people. You can't just say you're going to do it. Which has been said since the sixties regret? Do it for promise near your next look. We got one of you. Looks like you kind of the same shea. Not like it's going to happen nothing happens. Eventually people get people get pissed off by that but she says that the Republicans do the exact same thing only. They're better at it latte. Voters vote for Democrats in overwhelming numbers. And then the Democratic Party and the Democratic candidates they take for granted they build it into their number plan that they're already gonna get those votes and so there isn't necessarily an urgency to offer something. That's why I opened my questioning with Corinne. The Way I did is that you know overwhelmingly white voters vote for Republicans. But they still make them offer. They're like well. This is what I'm GONNA do. This is what Donald Trump is very clear visible to do for you. I'm going to get rid of these Brown immigrants. The way she twists that one for the archives to play back to one of these days. She's a she's going. That was the promise the promise was. We're getting rid Brown. People read was born in Brooklyn and her father was in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. There you go. Her mom is from British She's not really African. American dos by any means correct correct. So she's African more than she is also if you look at all of Biden's plans in his lift doll voices. Which of course is all lame. But it's also meant to speak to Adolf and black-americans lift voices not trying to do a church thing on you people but only I am thing he did the hillary voice remember we I clip. I Got Hillary GonNa do this. I'm going I can't even do it. I mean closed Hillary. I ain't going no where I'm tired here. We go that was by. Oh that's interesting. I've one of Biden mimicking her. That's pretty crazy. I think no. I think that's the clip by is. He's not mimicking her. That he's not like making fun of so we go. Don't feel no ways tired. Far from eight brought me. This far gave me exactly but if you look plan the Biden one. You don't have to buy one. I'm not not handy. It'd be a little harder to find but the the housing and say oh. Yeah his plan so in his plan he quickly moved from lift. Oh Voices Hay dos or African Americans to people of Color and yes minorities and before you know it. You're halfway through the document and somebody who has a gender identification issue is included in his plans. This is what always happens. That's that is the problem. It's like we're going to do something for black people and let's just say that in twenty thirty forty fifty years ago means a loss descendants. American of. We're going to do this for you. But then it's a imigrants from Mexico from South America. Everybody gets in it because then it's moved to minorities and you can only do that for so long and you and I think what you're seeing here is a it's a real protest and I believe that they have either. They have no idea in fact they don't have any idea here's a whole bunch of democratic in the little not a super cuts but a montage Defending his racist racist comments. You know I'm a little revved up okay. Because this is a distraction by seven Biden spoke to his comments on the breakfast club. He apologized clarified. He said he should have been so cavalier. But we need to move on to talk about the issues. And what's really at stake? Vice-presidents shouldn't have said it. He apologized for it. But I really think the goal and the nerve a president trump. I believe that Joe Biden was incorrect. And saying the statement. You Ain't black but also believed that his apology was sufficient was saying. I'm sorry I would. I apologize to his curse. Recognize within minutes had gotten carried away. I think he has apologized and he should've apologize. It was like one of those jokes just falls flat this almost the end of the interview. And you need to understand the context. I mean Biden Mater. Josh move all I mean we can obsess on school. Districts in the scheme of things knocked on. There's not amount of deadly squad. That's the guy who would apologize. We played the clip of his so called apology. He never said I'm sorry and everybody went on and didn't apologize exactly and you know you and I. We're not on black twitter. We don't I see a little bit of it. I got a great twitter because my work with moe but this exploded and and people are just like not taking it anymore. Not taken it speaking of old white guys. Donald TRUMP ONCE AGAIN. I think they're trying. The twenty-fifth amendment is a new one. A new gamut. Ps there is a red threads and all kinds of twitter threads about the ESP progress a progressive supranuclear palsy which fifty fifty thousand people a year. Get this in the United States. It is uncommon to progressive supranuclear Palsy. Psp is an uncommon brain disorder that affects movement control of walking your gate where it comes from. So there's all these pictures of trump and I don't know if it's lately or something to someone just noticed and now it's being amplified if him standing on the profile. He's leaning forward a ridiculous amount. Almost have you noticed this? Yeah I think as part to do with his big Gut Trying to make himself look thinner. No this is PSP according to To the smart people on the Internet and it makes sense. Read it Yup So it affects movement here. We come look at the list. Control of walking gait balance speech swallowing vision mood and behavior and thinking the disease results from damage to nerve cells in the brain disorders. Long name indicates the Disease Worsens Progressive Causes Weakness Palsy by damaging certain parts of the brain above nerve cell clusters called Nuclei. That's why supernatural. Yeah now personally. Before this p. s. p. mean came up. People are already what's going on. I think it's possible. He has lifts in his shoes. He's already tall yet but next to Milania I wonder if he was just that or two that he wanted to because it is kind of raised up from his heels. Oh somebody's take good photo of his shoes. Because you can tell someone who's wearing what you're the guy you're the guy with the shoe you'd notice that dude with a huge boots on was it. No is a Bloomberg Bloomberg. Had the boots had to boot. It would make sense for trump to make fun of him because like you said banging itself. Maybe he's just a few maybe he's just under six feet. Don't know but I don't think it's I don't think it's a brain disorder that affects maybe fifty thousand people a year. That would be very wishful thinking. This is all wishful thinking. These guys are just hoping to God that there some way. Get this guy out. Because and it's it's you can hear the desperation in their voices because the public at large. Dade like trump. They seem to at but it did. But at the your arm almost because you hear it you all well you know he could handle this better. I don't like to stay home this you know. I'd like to get somebody else in there. But the problem the Democrats have is their their alternative Joe Biden Joe Biden is really to guy is like he's we used to do a segment on whether he's drunk or not was years ago. Got Tired of playing the Jingle it wore out we played in so much Granada drunk. Young people I'm talking twenties. Twenty to thirty. I am noticing a trend of them. Being very disillusioned quotes. Such as the government's trying to kill me one way or the other Since see no alternative are not stupid. See Joe say yeah. He's a Dork. Canadian erases too. But I'm going to vote for him anyway just to get trump. I don't believe it. I don't think they're gonNA vote either. And that's not the feedback. I'm getting out here on the coast to coast. We have this show. The coast versus millennials. Go like the millennials. Go The millennials. Go talk like this. They say Joe Biden's too damned old for Joe Biden the guys that no no man really. So what are they GONNA do? Vote or not vote probably not vote. Yeah that's what I think. I think the democratic something will vote for trump to get. I mean last ditch desperation. Is this mail in ballots. Yes male everybody maybe send them back or maybe they're they're somebody will take from them and film out for them. Give anything anything on this on the mailing to the new. I haven't new. I got something that was quite telling as a very short clip although it is It fits the the trump fan voters supporters. Vision of of the Democrats is quite a telling clip now. This is from some years ago but it is about mail in voting. And you're going to hear the Representative from Florida Debbie Wasserman Schultz huge Democrat. As she was she ran the Democrat Party When Hillary lost Even though she tried to rig it all. And here's what she thought about. Malin voting years ago Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz argues. A mail in ballot has wrong written all over it. It'd be a risky experiment for us with an election that has stakes as high as a presidential election. Does we've never done mail in ballots. Statewide Wasserman Schultz's worried about signature fraud. Disenfranchising college students getting addresses wrong and having private donors instead of states footing the bill. She favors seating the delegates already. Chosen as a way to solve this without totally redoing this and causing more chaos so the typical response from right leaning. Republican trump twitter is hypocrites lukaku. Same thing try. Don't like it. You know you do like it. I'd like to point out. Is that from this clip? It is obvious that the Republicans were trying to pull the same damn trick. So they're all Douche bags and any of the Republicans say this can't be. They were all in on it when it when it benefited them. When it came down to Florida I think it was the hanging chads election. Possibly so. They're all a holes all of them. Well we know that I know but it's good to remind people that the Republicans pull this stunt to and is possible. The Republicans have the upper hand on the fraud. We don't know that it did not a special election ballot and it was won by the Republican and trump was bragging about it. The Mail in ballot. And so we don't know who's but it did thing is it doesn't matter who's decide side on the fraudsters. Who's the fraudster is? It's IT'S RIPE FOR IT. Sasken for into people that keep saying. Oh there's no evidence of this never happened is this. And that's what triggered this whole thing with twitter. 'cause it was it was sorry as a trump tweet saying hey the mail and bowed things a bad idea and that's when twitter decide to put a little bug on the bottom say. Oh you should check this before you believe any of this because it's not the end. There's this litany going on there by the Democrats which never really happened with the Republicans that that. Oh there's never been any fraud it's not set your exactly exactly so very annoying to watch the witness to meet my anyway. So what anymore Biden stuff? I don't have any biden stuff. I didn't do Biden today. Unfortunately no I have a good overall clips and I also have the Kaley Clip Ted like to. I'd like to just mention just one quick thing. Know about another douchebag we we missed it the Webby awards somehow. I mean. We weren't nominated. I O obvious obviously having now it was the Webby awards from home this year presented by Pat Patent Oswald who is the shoot 'em is from modern family but he's been many things who is a huge trumpeter but I hate trump. I wanted to let you know that This this was from home so people dialed in and Michelle Obama of course and I know a lot about this because my friend J. T. Miller runs entertainment empire entertainment in New York and he produces the show produce. A lot of these big shows organizations. And he's really good at at getting talent that's really most of what they do. And guess who else was on this wonderful show to hand out an award right rounded was Demi Levato and now why didn't start. What output stay. Let in Dark Times. Here we go. That's Tom Hanks. Think now shoot and here we go is. This is how it aired by the right and here is our next hero. No is this person. No Oh shoot. Everyone's in except the guy I wanted to show you. I'm doing this live from doing live and we go hit it. Greetings my name is Dr Tony Faustian. I am here to present some good news at a time of great stress as we struggle to contain the cove nineteen outbreak. I'm excited about the opportunity to shine some light on one of the many young people who have stepped up and helped us route this difficult time. The Twenty Fourth Annual. Webby awards will honor. Avi Shiffman as twenty twenty person of the year in recognition of his creation of an co two thousand nineteen dot live to track the spread of covid nineteen across the world so she stared to present an award to some incredible stupid website made by a young person who is our. Webby Twenty Twenty award winner. Faouzi doesn't have other things to do. Doesn't he have mass to check or vaccines to create? I don't want him hanging out with Hollywood stars anymore. This is important. He's always been this way and the thing is why is he the only good audio? He's not even a audio guy. He set up for man and he has somebody put he pretty much had a set. He was ready to go and exactly what it was doing. So glad you played that yeah well. I just galls me. The galls me. There's worship the worship of this guy and he's a dick he's no good. He's a she'll for Big Pharma. He's he's hundred million dollar air one hundred millionaire. He's got lots of money and everyone thinks that he's the cat's meow. Well enjoy your prison home slave. Because she put their with burkes. Okay yeah before joining us to do this is the NBC Didn't have a good A good slam trump moment so they couldn't focus on anything dead so they do a rundown when they when they have this problem They put together a rundown which really is like the kind of a news summary On the nightly news of trump and and everything else in between trump brought in dividend dude. Let's talk about this and then talk about trump. Let's talk about this stuff about trump and it's all one story and we haven't heard one for a while. This is the definitive weekly trump rundown. And they're fast they get it over with in a minute and a half. As the entire report president will sign an executive order concerning social media as he escalates. His feud with twitter. Here's Peter Alexander ahead of today's scrubbed launch president trump touring Nasr's campus striking uplifting note activities number one members of the president's family traveling with him wearing masks. The first lady earlier seen wearing her mask aboard marine one their visit coming very day. The country marks that tragic milestone one hundred thousand lives lost to the corona virus and today the President hosted New York Governor Andrew Cuomo at the White House it was about. How do we supercharge the reopening especially in New York which has been hardest? Hit No drama there but the president is escalating another battle with twitter after the company for the first time. Posted fact check labels pair of the president's tweets about mail-in ballots president trump accusing twitter of interfering in the twenty two thousand presidential election and today threatening to strongly regulate or close them down. A president has no authority to shut down a private company. And the First Amendment limits the government's ability to regulate free speech meantime some top. Republicans are telling president trump to knock it off as he again today pushed a debunked conspiracy theory that former Republican congressman and morning. Joe Host Joe Scarborough had something to do with the death of an aide in two thousand one Lori. Klis Sudas died after an abnormal heart. Rhythm caused her to collapse and hit her head in scarborough. Florida office scarborough was in Washington at the time Republican congresswoman Liz. Cheney we're in the middle of pandemic he's the chief commander in chief of his nation And causing pain to the family of the died thousand space x late tonight. The president tweeted that he plans to fly back to Florida on Saturday for the next scheduled launch. Lester Interesting Stop Wait. I gotTa give you this. This is the list of topics in this one. Forty nine clip. This is unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this. He starts with a t tease about twitter. Oh twitter he's upset about twitter. That was less free. Throws it to the correspondent starts with the space launch. Then he starts talking about masks and then he starts talking about one hundred thousand loss then he starts talking about Cuomo and then each talks about the reopening then to fitter the twitter fact check and then the commodore has no authority to do this and then he goes off to the top. Republicans say knock it off. And then they discuss scarborough with Liz. Cheney clip talking about the pain and then back to the launch. What kind of a report is this? It truly is bizarre. Isn't it is like your daily trump insanity in liners? There's no focus. Is there no focus? Or is that exactly the laser focus that they want to portray which is all I do you come away from? Does anyone come away from it with a love or a hate trump? I mean they do try to finish it with a Liz. Cheney kind of a slam and top Republicans tell them to knock it off as if he's out of control and now he's flying back to Florida. Watch another aborted launch. I don't know what I'm there's some trick to. They're doing something. Well it's I don't think it's very good. It's not exactly what they did in. Twenty fifteen the leading up to the election. Isn't this exactly what happened? And by the way all someone remember from that report Oh cool e lawns. Doing that rockets thing okay. So if they're trying to do an onto president's going to be there let's tune in to watch that asshole land stuff like that. No I think they are making the same mistakes. They can't help themselves. The mainstream system is set up to deliver that way and trump cracked the code. Well they definitely are just doing it. I don't know what the point of that report was to be honest about it. Ju- Jari know. I heard it's sunk talked into it now because they start seeing right away. You were talking over not into a tried again. I think it was too much in that report. I'm to show us to know all Ziebel hooka-doodles awesome talk about too much in the report. We have lots of people that donated a little bit of money. And we're GONNA thank each and every one of them for all the support they are giving us and it began and I'm going to go down. We have a special program for a forty nine dollars donation which A number of people took part in. Which is the numeral logical number? 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Spray spray spray and Bright Wipe Wipe and spray the food with it and it's frasier drink within drink sprayed into the drink and then spray it all over the place and see what people do another socializing tip from your no agenda. Show at the no ops a big meals this a sure is no agenda DOT com. Oh you got the same Amazon thing I did. We should probably play that. Yes the Amazon. Somebody put together a super clips is really only ten but is eleven station. It's eleven stations. Y- eleven station is and it was done by some Group of. I don't know what they're even complaining about. But this is like somebody's like a native ad and buy a whole bunch of stations. Almost all the same about an Amazon and how great they are didn't get much traction but again enough to get a super clod. Well I think the the point of it is. It's brought to you as a new story by these local stations. Some NBC is on ABC. And there may be one or two Fox. Local stations have different sales. And so it's not a network thing but you have Media buying agencies. Okay I wanNA have a native. Want the six o'clock news and want these markets to do this story on us. How great we are as Amazon? I wanted to present as a new story and it should be mentioned the guy who produced this which are left-wingers They showed that a couple of stations played two and maybe three times. In one instance. Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Millions of Americans staying at home are relying on Amazon. Millions of Americans. Staying at home are relying on Amazon. Amazon has transformed its operations in response to Covid nineteen to protect employees and keep packages flowing. Amazon transformed its operations in response to Cova Nineteen to protect employees and keep packages flowing. The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy while still delivering those packages to your doorstep. Accompanies keeping employees safe and healthy? The company is keeping its employees safe and healthy company is keeping its employees safe and healthy company is keeping its employees safe and healthy accompany is keeping its employees safe and healthy company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. The company is keeping its employ safe and healthy to spend eight hundred million dollars on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. It has spent eight hundred million dollars on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic has spent eight hundred million dollars on increase wages and overtime pay during the pandemic past than eight hundred million dollars on increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic Amazon. Says it has spent eight hundred million dollars. Increased wages and overtime pay during the pandemic. Every single one of Amazon's workforce of nearly a million people has played a critical role in making these changes. Happen passing that. We have for safety. They can stay safe and healthy while you do too. So good you do to the thing is you can. There's so many of those New Stories on your local news. And if you just saw that story you wouldn't necessarily think it was bought and paid for. That's the problem with all mainstream media. Today it's all times. They haven't native ads with a net newspaper yet from China. The whole China Gazelle Chad different. But it's different by Nisa different process but while we're on that sleazy so it's the same mainstream media owned by China and a And the pharmaceutical industry who brought forth the immediate turnaround in results of or the the published results of the MODERNA proposed M. R. N. A vaccine vaccine which type of vaccine which has never been tried before. I believe it's a works at the genetic level Very skeptical. This is going to work. But we had A. We had a press announcement. Oh my God. It looks like it's going to work. This is fantastic. It's very exciting The President yes. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have a before January it's going to be fab joe loss over on. Cnbc which is the financial channel where they discussed more during its public and it appears a lot of the insiders got out salts a lot of stock before before this announcement but they brought on. Why would they do that? No idea. But they brought on Dr William Hassle Teen A professor a former professor at Harvard Medical School. And this is just a part of the interview you can watch the whole thing in the show notes and show notes Dot Com. Madonna's claim favorable results in its vaccine. Trial is an example of publication by press release. He joins US now Hazelton the thanks so much for joining us. I said the data at the top of that intro. Your criticism is that was not sufficient data in their release and because of that the the market was able to a hold. The results Perhaps more than they should have done. I would say several things about the announcement. It was premature only eight people had been study. It was not impressive and it was big if a CFO and trying to get away with the same kind of announcement it would've been greeted by division and possibly by investigation but isn't the point that some of these companies Dr trying to get these announcement out on purpose as fast as they possibly can for the benefit of public health for the benefit of to reopen economies for the benefit of trying to get say treatment information out there and back then goes along with that too. I mean we're she didn't mention for the benefit of the pharmaceutical industries or just putting this bull crap out to make the stock price go up. Do you think that's what it could be? Think of that. Ms Financial Lady Marina pandemic where we have people in the emergency rooms fighting. That's right now. The question is not that we're in. We're not in emergency. We know where emergency in an emergency is even more important to be clear about what you know and what you don't know there is a process which is vastly accelerated. Though the moment the date is put together the moment it can be presented is on the Internet for free. Everybody can see Moderna did not follow that. We don't know happy. You don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. Nobody maybe a few people in their company know what happened. Regency that data even in an emergency. That's not warranted. There are many processes that we can put in place that allow global sharing of data. That's not the issue the issue is. Do we know what happened. And the answer is we don't so if you were excited about the vaccine coming because you heard about it on the news eight people tried it and the results weren't published but it's GonNa be great whoo and that's your media and that's what you're going to base your health on one of guys grew a second head. I think we know that much. Yeah Oh well Oh my goodness Eric. So let's take a look at Hoops I'll get anything cute talking because I grabbed the wrong call the GRONK sheet of clips. Okay well we're talking about insider trading the FBI has ordered her to hand over documents regarding her husband's stock trades Dianne Feinstein. She's good for three hundred million. I think at least one hundred way up there credibly welfare and Pelosi both loaded. They both live in the same area. San Francisco Kaley clip. Let's do the Kaley clip. This gratuitous Kaley clip. I'm GONNA do these time sick of them it's not gratuitous people are demanding them from you. You will keep demanding. I'll keep doing. Can I think I get one per show? I mean I could get more but I think this one this is a classic example and somebody was pointing out that she's somebody pointed out in an email to me. Something interesting is that everybody has their own tricks when they don't know quite what to say how they stall and how trump always repeats himself. Two or three times says he's trying to gather his thoughts so yeah it was a very good idea. It was a very good ideas very good ideas. He's got so he'll back right usually. It's a tremendous idea. Was she has distinguish. She just has kind of a roadway of just slamming somebody in a In a very kind of decide things she got from Kellyanne Conway because I think Kellyanne Conway which was Kellyanne Fitspatrick. In in the nineties was had these tricks that she would use and so it never sounded like there was never an And a long pause and which just breath and here she goes in you hear it at the very beginning when this guy ask for the second time about something that she decided to elaborate on it but before she elaborate. She blasts him successfully heated. I think you're asking the wrong question. The right question is where did where did say it when I answered your question once but if you ask it twice doesn't make it any better of a question so I'll respond in kind. I've given you one answer. I'll continue to extrapolate upon that that he always listened to the science. The President Dr Falcon. Dr Burke said you need to shut down the economy that was hard for the president. You know in a typical year. One hundred twenty thousand people die of suicide and drug overdose in a typical year and doctors have said when you shut down and economy for extended period of time. That number gets grader. People don't show up for their cancer. Diagnosis there litany of results. When you close down in an economy but closing down the economy for this amount of time kept US far below the two point two million number as we start to reopen. We keep in mind the people who are missing their screening appointments that people who are not who are succumbing to suicide and drug overdose because of economic hardship. This president made the right choice. It was a delicate balance. And he did it exactly as he should guided by data and we are far below two point two million dead Americans because of the actions of president trouble man. Okay Kaley get out of town girl. She's she's now touting that we did better than the two million because of trump's shut up shut up we did better because they changed the model the two hundred thousand bowl. Let's say is not bull. I'm just analyzing your technique. Now analyzing the content you can analyze the content of a press conference from trump. I mean come on. It's never going to be anything interesting or good and the end these media guys. Don't ask good questions. They don't bring anything interesting up. It's always the same talking points that question by the way that they asked for the second time was the third time it was answered at that. Press CONFERENCE IF SOMEBODY FIT. Baba did he asked it and he. He asked for the second time in this when she blew up at him. But that was hurt. She said that already. She already went through this malicious keeps adding onto it. I get it just just bothers me that they're adding to the whole problem. I know I know I know I know I know I know. What am I expecting way too much? I know I know I shouldn't do that. Are Expecting way too much. You're the optimus you the starry eyed optimist. Go Home I got. I don't understand whether he's just give us the truth. Will All be good with that? Oh Gee do you really think if I was truly that guy you'd be hanging out with me for twelve years. I think. Now that's why I'm not hanging out with here. We do this show because you are the. You are an optimist. I'm talks toxic to you. That's what it is optimistic. I am a real genuine optimus and I see nothing this. None of this is good. And I'm an optimist your a starry eyed optimist. You actually think that things are going to change for the better. Hey you know what I'm going to end the show. Because by the way Amazon Dot COM is on. This could be okay because you brought this up and I'm a little irked by Amazon there. What is the difference between Amazon? Before the pandemic and Amazon. They got a few more orders. Why none of my today were delivers coming. One comes the next day do incomes a week. Oh Yeah it's the worst and we should get our prime money back. Yes where's my? Where's this GYP? Play Guarantee? Second Day delivery on everything and I'm not getting it. Oh you notice that digit. I almost stopped ordering from Amazon instant. I've I have saved so much money. Not spent anything else now that the prime membership has gone up to over one hundred dollars. I have my doubts but I will say I. I do like the prime video service and I don't know Hundred Years Cheaper Than Netflix. Or is about the same price? I I do WanNa play one show night. Believe it's on Amazon. Could be on. Netflix is called World War. One and you like to Catherine the great thing. Well this is not. This is along those lines of historical. But it's based on is based on. It's really based on the facts and their analysis of the beginning of World War. One is a little more than I knew about. I'm learning something of this show British show and it goes into great details and I want to remind everybody that this war then when you watch this thing you have to remember that. This period of time was a period of globalization. They had the same idealism. They wanted to globalize. Everything's one world government. We're all going to be happy campers. That's they have no borders the called against just called War World War One. Yeah and and I just look at this knowing said well. This was the last shot at globalization. They're doing it again and decide what the result was. That May. That's great and I think you should give a little little more synopsis on Sunday. Show because everyone's going to be watching Catherine great because how does that way against kinky sacks murder war food and humor murder okay as there you go. That will do it for today. Another other longer. Show but what else are you going to do in these crazy days? If the covert lockdown we return Sunday please remember US divorce dot org slash in a and I am coming to you from almost free Austin Texas here and opportunities owned thirty three of the drones star State region number six on all the governmental maps in the morning. Everybody I'm out in curry and from New Orleans. Silicon Valley where we're celebrating Karen. We've got more facts with Adam. Curry the episode is talking about next. 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