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Small Loans, Large Cost
"This season. we're going to be telling you about states of innovation literally stories about states that are taking new and creative approaches to problems and finding solutions make lives better in this episode. We look at ohio. Many people live paycheck to paycheck and sometimes accumulated bills. Outstrip that paycheck. For twelve million americans. This episodes data point. The answer is to turn to payday loans. But sometimes a small loan turns into a problem. The notion of giving somebody is super high cost loan but then forcing them to repay it. Really quickly is actually the biggest part of the problem. A three hundred dollar loan with a fifty dollars in fees that comes due in two weeks that takes more than one. Third of a typical borrowers paycheck. Even before you account for taxes. Nick bork directs spews work to inform effective consumer finance protections. Those fees. He mentioned add up quickly altogether. An average annual percentage rate of three hundred ninety one percent. That's a far cry from the national average for a personal loan today at nine point three percent. But that's not the only issue something that people don't always understand. Is that people who use payday. Loans are actually banked. You have to have a checking account to pay loan because that's how the blender secures the repayment. The payday lender has access to your checking account. So they get paid first. Then you can't pay your mortgage than you can't pay your rent then you can't pay your car payment and so what do you do you go back to the payday lender and get another one. That's how the cycle starts. Nick explains how these loans came into existence. Haiti loans have been around for about a generation and about thirty years ago. Lawmaker said well. We wanna find a way to get credit to people who are living paycheck to paycheck. And we've got usery rates baked into our legal code. Almost every state has usury laws on the books. We're going to give an exception to payday. Loans to allow them to go higher than that but in exchange were going to force these loans to be really short so people. Don't get into trouble if you're in the situation of having to get paid alone in the first place and then two weeks later you lose a third of your paycheck. Well it creates what a lot of people refer to as the cycle of debt and this is how something that is supposedly a two week. Short term loan for the typical borrower ends up being a three to four month experience often five or six months by the time they get out of that debt. They've effectively borrowed. Say three or four hundred dollars which is typical. But they've paid five hundred dollars or more in fees more fees than the amount of the original loan. A number of states are starting to look at ways to make these loans to safer for consumers. Can you talk a little bit about what's been happening. And what makes some of these new approaches a little innovative in this area ever since payday loans came onto the market. It's been sort of like an experiment. And how do we make short term. Loans liquidity loans available to people who have damaged credit. Scores are living paycheck to paycheck. It hasn't worked very well and until recently the states that allowed payday loans haven't really figured out how to make it work better by trying to protect people from getting into too much trouble and make them short term loans. We're actually harming them. So let's change the law and let's give people more time to repay. Let's change the pricing structure. A little bit so yeah. It's going to cost more than a credit card. But it's not going to be four hundred percent and add a few more protections and you know now three states have done it and it's worked out really well well. Let's talk a little bit about the hallmark of what makes good change in this world. What are some of the hallmarks of of a successful innovative way of fixing this. That we've seen work in. Colorado or ohio were numbered. I can talk about this all day and the details really matter but fundamentally it's simple the state's law has to be changed so that a payday loan must be an installment loan that people pay off over several months and every payment that you make pays down part of the principal. It's it's calm analyzing installment loan. It's the way that installment loans usually work and on top of that you have to change the pricing structure. What we've seen in the states work really well. Is you limit the interest on the loan to thirty six percent or less but you also allow a reasonable monthly fee to help the lender cover their costs and continue making credit even to people with very damaged credit histories. The typical payday loan borrower has a five seventeen credit score. But if you have interest up to thirty six percent and a reasonable monthly fee colorado ohio virginia. They've shown that you can still make credit available and then third you just need. A couple of simple safeguards prevent lenders from enticing borrowers to refinance their loans. And that sort of thing so in two thousand eighteen when ohio past reform law. They did the things. I just mentioned. They required the payday loans to amortizing installment loans and they implemented a twenty eight percent interest rate cap plus a reasonable monthly fee.
Former Boston College Baseball Player Pete Frates’ Sports Memorabilia Up For Auction To Benefit ALS Patients
"A year since we lost Pete Brady's to a less, but his family continues there fight for a cure, and this week you can own a piece of history. An auction is coming for some of the iconic sports memorabilia that came Pete's way. And doubly busy. Jim McKay reports. It all goes to a terrific cause. The money brought in from this auction will help the Pete Brady's Family Foundation. I spoke with Pete's dad, John, as the foundation helps families who are now dealing with this deadly disease. And what we're hoping to do is just Share some of the bread crumbs of knowledge that we learned along the way sharing knowledge but also with donations and your help. It's also helping those families who are in need the most and also offer financial assistance and this auction will last all week. It's hosted by K B K sports, You can find it online, and you will also have a plethora of items to choose from, He said. Look, I've done shilling Blood. So Ray Bork. I've never seen the quantity and quality of the stuff anything Red Sox, Patriots, Celtics Bruins and beyond the entire sports world that Reached out to Pete over the years. You Khun bid now and own your part of history and help the great cause
"Amy Coney Barrett is is talking to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. She's not saying much One thing that's clear from her hearing is that Amy Perez, shifty Amy Kuney Barrett is smart amy. Barrett is smarter than Brett, Kavanagh like of the. Smarter. Than Bread Kavanagh her confirmation hearing significantly less irritating on its face is it's got less screaming in it but do you think that her being? More, pleasant. Than other. Nominee his I'm specifically talking about Brad. Kavanagh, has lulled into a false sense of complacency. No, I don't think. So I really don't I think that we all probably learn a little bit more because we listen because we're not being shouted out about shouted out about making beer and squeeze in some calendars. You know I, think that we in some ways. I can't tell you a ton. From my memory of like policy questions that Brett Cavanaugh answered right like we were really put off by his temperament and everything sort of fell from there. But with her I think that senators have asked very good questions of her I think she hasn't answered most of them I, that that tells us a lot you know. I. Think especially because she is you know for someone who says that? It's my job to not forecast or say how I would vote if I were on the Supreme Court but you know she tells us that she has told us a lot. She's a very Christian she's pro-life and she brings her kids everywhere and I say this because she's a woman but I don't understand why people bring their small children to confirmation hearings it no sense. Have you seen? Pictures from Antonin Scalia is confirmation hearing He brought his entire big family. There's something to me read like sort of hat tip to her mentor Antonin Scalia who she clerked for Oh interests during okay I. did not know that during his hearing. He had like I. Think he has nine kids or something like that, and they all were sitting there in the chambers and he was. Confirmed during a time where things were a lot less contentious I mean bork already happened but he was things were a lot less contentious when he was confirmed and so there was a lot of like it. It's super weird to revisit that now because there was a lot of like people on the committee complimenting his big family and it was it was very, very strange but I think one thing that you know her family life is pretty irrelevant to. Her capacity as as a judge and her being a nice lady doesn't really have anything to do with her capacity as a judge what I was disturbed by that like. These hearings always to me seem just like an exercise and gas lighting. We know what she thinks about Roe v Wade we know what she thinks about it it is. We know and so she spends. Days pretending that we don't know and that her views are somehow something that she's going to rule on without input from her like she signed onto a letter that was written on behalf of a group that believes in vitro fertilization is manslaughter. Anyone asked her about that I didn't not yet. Did they somebody did on Tuesday they asked her if she felt like that and she said that she just signed the letter her way out of church or something I. Did hear that part that's fucking nuts i. just I hate how were being gasoline here I I it here's my question for you. Do you think because you know there are a lot of people who think that Democrats should have boycotted the hearing to show what a sham it was. I don't know how I feel about that. What do you think? I don't know I feel like the the right thing to do is. I think the platonic ideal of a member of the Senate Judiciary for this has been amy, Klobuchar Amy Klobuchar who the good aiming the good amy as you know as as she was running for president, she wasn't somebody that I whose candidacy I was enthusiastic about She's somebody who falls to the right of me on many issues. But as a member of this committee, she's done a really good job of asking pointed questions that seemed to have simple answers but that Amy Coney Barrett the bad, amy. Has Been Dodging.
US Supreme Court: The possible nominees to fill vacancy
"Of you paid attention to who the possible nominees are. People are talking about Amy Kuney Barrett and Barbara Lago do you know but these judges and can you tell us anything about them? Sure I mean there. It's almost certain to be Amy Coney Barrett. Just because trump has generally deferred to actually others throughout his four years especially when it comes to the higher court, the Circuit Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court, and there's really a pretty big consensus around amy. Barrett, there some talk that like trump would be helped in Florida if he went the other way. But I'll be I'll be very shocked if it's not her now she is you know a a more or less. Predictable right wing jurist. I think her her confirmation. We'll have enormous effects just because I think it's clear. She's a reliable vote to overturn Roe v Wade where. Probably, in her absence, they would just continue cutting the meaning of that precedent down. You know because even as of today it's it's been made so hard to get an abortion in the south that weather would wanNA speak of. A meaningful federal right to abortion is already open to question in in many other areas. She'll just confirm that drift to the supreme, court in this liberal direction, which actually some of the Democrats on on the panel have have kind of colluded and in taking it toward in recent decades. So the addition of one person is rarely like catalytic or transformative. Maybe on this one issue of abortion, it would actually lead five of the justices without chief justice, Roberts to overturn Roe v Wade, which might not happen otherwise and I'm not suggesting that's not a big deal. It is, but probably in most other areas of law, it would just be like the same more of the same except more. So so so what are the different ways that you see this playing out Let's say this happened than Biden is elected He then gets to replace I assume the next soon to retire Justice Briar I believe, right? I mean. We. Assume that Clarence Thomas would try to outlast Joe Biden in the same way that Ruth Ginsburg tried to outlast Donald. Anything could happen right and you happen and of course, we should probably talk about interesting relationship between Biden and Clarence Thomas. How much of a? Let's go there. How much did Biden in neighb- ball Clarence Thomas is Supreme Court. Or empower him as a sitting Supreme Court justice while he was instrumental as as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, I mean you know we can get personal. But in we've all seen, you know whatever the you know the Netflix's reenactment of this level. But you know the truth is that Biden you know maybe like all of us only more so again has been a prisoner of his time all the way along and at that moment The He he responded you know as part of the like con, the comedy of the Senate required. You know he hung out with these other white men and they decided that this wasn't a big enough deal and there was deference even in a democratically controlled Senate to the you know right of the president to nominate a supreme. Court justice when a seat is vacant we've totally given up those those norm sense really as a country, but you know within the Senate to. You know I definitely think he sh- his treatment of Anita Hill is part of the record that we ought to think seriously about it's mainly testament to changing norms in the country about gender and about sexual violence and so I but I. so but I would kind of broaden out to less about his own limitations which may be substantial and more about you know. Where we've come why really starting with Robert bork before through the Clarence Thomas Nomination, and through our time we've we've really converted national politics into like these psycho dramas around filling supreme court seats, and again, the reason is not having to do with any of these individuals Biden Thomas. it's more with what's at stake, which is policy making authority over all Americans and it it is. It's. It's hard to argue that this particular institution auto habit
Big tech CEOs testify before Congress
"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
Charlie Kirk: Coronavirus stimulus
"And you have Schumer Pelosi. In Biden one hundred twenty five years, Charlie Kirk of failure, unmitigated failure, swap failure and I. Think of my kids. You met my son. He's twenty one years old. My daughter's eighteen and I would think about your America their America and when I say you know, live free or die, American, the world on the brink I'm not joking. And very specifically will be probably the biggest choice election by far in my lifetime, and maybe since eighteen sixty, and there's a lot at stake We can go through the issues if you want, but it's. It's there's there's not one issue we agree on that. I can think of for the most part yet, and you wrote this, and it just really sent chills down my spine. You wrote this book to sound an alarm as a warning. Warning to my fellow patriots about the left's undying commitment turn America into a land, our parents, founders and framers wouldn't recognize it. It's perfectly put, and that's the direction that they're headed on page twenty seven. You have a great part about how Ben Franklin says we ever republic. If you can keep it, can you talk more about how this truly is? A referendum election in some sense and the left is trying to do to our country. Well the the story about Franklin's interesting, because it's, it's the constitutional convention and somebody says he comes out one days, says, is it a monarchy republic republic? If you can keep it Reagan, I quote him off. When I give speeches, said Freedom Charlie and you know this is but one generation away from extinction. And you know when if you want understand if socialism is adopted if their stated goal is adopted America as we know, it then becomes unrecognizable look, I can understand psychologically. There's a component of maybe people that that have been indoctrinated in schools, and you're great at this because you're going in to hostile environments every day, and you're saying you know what there's another way of thinking here, so maybe the idea that people think Charlie that some things are oh, everything's going to be free and they're gonNA forgive my loans at I'll have a guaranteed government job guaranteed government food. How did obamacare workout now? We're GONNA have Medicare for all or or double down on the stupidity of Obamacare and guaranteed retirement. Guaranteed vacation sounds great. But simple math shows you that you'll never get there. And that's why in the Fourth Chapter of the book did this whole history of socialism which is a history of failure? The point is look at the issues. If if we're talking about law and order. They've cited in Portland in Seattle and new. York and Chicago with the radicals. Joe Biden his yet that I know of said one good thing about the ninety nine percent of cops protect and serve and put their lives on the line for us every day. You're right. Okay, so law and order taxes. He's pledging to raise your taxes through the roof. That will destroy the economy Then they're gonNA just add all the bureaucracy. The Donald Trump spent almost four years. Eliminating that'll be gone. That means nobody's GONNA WANNA DO Business. That's why the Biden Obama economy was so bad. Then you look at where now energy independent for the first time in seventy five years with a number, one producer of energy in the world will lose that for sure We'll shut down coal fracking. Oil Gas exploration production those tens of millions of jobs high paying jobs career jobs for people. Then it's about amnesty. Or the United Sanctuary states of America versus Border Security and law and order of never mind foreign policy. We haven't even touched that part yet, so. There's a lot at stake. If those plans stated plans are implemented. America will go down the past you know. The Trash bin of history as Reagan, said Freedom One generation away from extinction we will. It I shudder to think what will happen the three you and your children by kids, and and maybe one day grandkids. ARE READY FOR THAT And I love the framing, because as the founder said either we're GonNa live free and defendant right now, or we're gonNA. Have a country that you know. We don't WanNa live it, and that's really the framing. That is so important right now, and you talk about and I'm really pleased about this. Shawn because I think we have forgotten about the Russia hoax too quickly in. In the conservative movement, you have been the leader on this every night. You were covering it. You didn't let us forget you help. Muller Accountable, you had investigative journalism and it just seemed that an Oxana names, but other conservatives just kind of drifted away from like Oh. That's what happened happened. You have two chapters on this in the book. Can you talk about that? Yeah I mean I call it Charlie, the the biggest corruption abuse of power scandal in history and the Ukraine was oh. Okay, we failed with Muller after three years. We won't. We won't even bother with a special prosecutor not to I'm going backwards here but to get to Ukraine. You? Know they're talking about quid pro quos, but you have to ignore their presidential candidate on video saying you're not getting a billion US tax payer dollars unless you're fire. That prosecutor is named Shokhin. WHO's investigating my son Hunter who went on a and said? Do you have any experience in oil? No Gas, no energy, nope, any experience in Ukraine. Nope, why are you being paid millions? No, because you dad, so there was a quid pro quo and millions of dollars for the Biden I call crime family. That's exactly right, so. Listen and China's even worse. You get to this whole thing what we now know and I believe what's coming. It's like, and this is where the media's corrupt because. They're just the propaganda wing of all things democratic. Socialist. We now know and have all the evidence that we'd ever need is that they protected their favorite candidate. Hillary Clinton. For things you and I and everybody you know that follows you and you have a massive audience would. Literally never get away with. If you had subpoenaed emails Charlie Kirk and you decided to delete them, and you decided to acid. Wash your hard drive with something. I had never heard about bleeped bleach bit and bust up your devices with hammers. You'd go to jail. If you violated the espionage act, you'd go to jail. They protected her. Then the narrative began we now know began in August. We know crossfire hurricane representatives actually went to brief. President Trump General Flynn. Flynn on national security, but they were there to try and get information on trump and Russia, the most amazing part of this, because the Democrats and the media live for all these years is that they knew and they said and they wrote, and they even testified. There was never any evidence, but there was a dirty Russian dossier. And now we know even the New York Times acknowledged full full of Russian disinformation and that was used. And they were warned not to use it, but high ranking people abusing their power, wanting to take out candidate, trump, transition, team, trump, and then deep into the Presidency Donald Trump. They use the dirty Russian misinformation dossier to ruin Carter pages life and roomed his civil liberties and constitutional rights, but more importantly to spy on candidate trump, and then they had their insurance policy. The fact that the mob in the media ignores it is beyond comprehension. I have so I have two chapters. One is on the Russia hoax, and the other is on this whole impeachment witch hunt. And I want everybody in your audience to understand one thing here if I can get one point across. Yeah, they hate Donald Trump, but they hate us more. They think we are as Peter. Struck, said the smell by the way I probably shop at Walmart say money. Why not you have a woman I love Walmart I love COSCO's. I Love I love it all. And I've shopped there my whole life I mean people always stopped me when I'm in a grocery? So, what are you doing here? Shopping? Wa I like to eat a cracks me up. So but think about that. smelly Walmart Shoppers while irredeemable deplorables, wow! Bitter Americans as Obama said that WANNA cling to their God. I'm guilty their Second Amendment Rights Guilty Bibles and religion I'm guilty of that, too. But. It's contempt for your audience. It's contemporary my audience. It's because they knew better. And they will ling. This was an attempted coup. Now do I think there's going to be arrests and prosecutions I? Do spend much slower than any of us would have liked, but the evidence is overwhelming. It's incontrovertible sad actually that this could happen. That was going to be my follow up. Question Sean because when I travel and we get thousands of e mails a on this topic. When are people going to go to jail? And can you give me insight on this? Can you give us any clues any crumbs that we're starting to see from Durham? It's I call them. It's funny. You say crumbs because call them the the Attorney General Bar breadcrumbs. It's like Hansel and Gretel. Remember. We're we're trying to follow and see the trail exactly yeah. He did say that the president was spied on. It did happen illegally. The. Think about this. If you go before Judge Judy I wouldn't WANNA lot because Judge Judy I. I've met her once she'll eviscerate. You I watched her show. You. Don't go before a court. The information that you have not verified. It actually said at the top of a FISO Warren Charlie. It says verified. Okay. We now know the dossier was unverifiable. The sub source we now know, said this this bar talk. We were making this up. This was never meant for anything and again Hillary paid for it funneled money separate issue. And so, what is going to happen I don't have a crystal ball but I. do know all of the facts that are in the public. Are Enough to indict many of the names that your audience is most familiar with. I would argue. Komi McCabe struck page. I'd like to know a clapper. Brennan's role in all of this ends up being and and others. The more fascinating deep question is. Will they get to that January fifth twenty seventeen meeting inside the Oval Office? This is when member Biden said George Stephanopoulos Oh I. Don't know. Anything about this, you know this whole impeachment Russia thing. He was the one same. Bring up the Logan Act fifteen days later Susan Rice in that meeting did the Cya memo the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated. Obama in that meeting shot Sally Age by saying a He. He knew everything about the Kislyak Michael Flynn call. If we look. To sum it up. I think we're GONNA get there because the evidence. Is that overwhelming? If we don't. I fear for the country? Because of you. GonNa Raid Manafort's home predawn raid and you're going to raid Roger Stone's home. For lying to Congress by the all many of the names I mentioned were referred for the same crime and you're gonNA. Pull it twenty nine guys in tactical gear, frogmen and tip off CNN cameras and. Have a biased jury for person. We won't have equal justice and equal application of our laws, and worse than that Charlie is. We lose our constitution. Yes, all our laws are are predicated on next great document and some `perfect, but it creates the path to perfection at a more perfect union so. Long answers. I'M GONNA talk. Show I love it. No, this is what our audience needs to hear, and and thank you for that and look I I completely agree because if we do not have people and I, say this as carefully as I can in handcuffs for what they did Donald Trump then I I will lose faith in the American justice system I. Don't want that and I don't want revenge I don't retribution I want people to be held accountable and I would want the same if someone did this to Barack Obama because it should never happen to a leader ever. Yes. and. They've gone after every single trump friend confidant, and yet if you oppose Donald Trump you get different treatment, talk a lot about the constitution in your book and the founding of our country, Sean going to be honest, I've been very let down by some of these supreme. Court decisions lately Can you comment on that and the importance to get more people like Kavanagh? Who's actually ruled brilliantly? Unlike John Roberts. I! I'm a little. I don't know what's happening. Roberts I have my theory I guess I have my sources people that. have their own ideas based on some knowledge? For whatever reason and I think this goes back to the obamacare decision. He has allowed. How the court appears to influence his decision making. I also sense with no evidence whatsoever. You're not a big fan of president trump, but that should not come into his thinking. Now. If getting rid of bureaucracy and lowering taxes and energy, independence, and securing our borders, and law and order are all part of this election. Let me tell you another big part of it. And it's you know we're taping this ninety. Whatever days away from the Election Day, I what about and we got asked. What about the Supreme Court? Yes, I go through a whole list I. Forget what paid maybe sixty seven I forget. A. In the book. Of. All the things Democrats would do if they're getting power one, is they? WanNa, stack the courts. Get rid of the Electoral College. And I. What, they're saying they. WanNa do is scary. They used to hide it Charlie. When I every single Liberal Democrat running for office, they would run to the left in the primary. They race back to the center, but you knew they wanted the left. There now openly embracing the most radical elements in the country and you know. Unfortunately we're watching it all. Play out nightly on TV and and that sad what I see happening when I think we have to remind a trump supporters that these are not trump appointed justices, a gorsuch I think ruled incorrectly on one ruling. That's it besides that gorsuch and cavenaugh have been tremendous and terrific verses Roberts. I just think we have to give the audience a sense. Sense of continued conviction that the trump appointed justices will continue to rule correctly and Clarence. Thomas and you know the the Thomas Family. They get no credit at all. I mean what he has done. And can you comment on that? 'cause I, E, you've actually been you open my eyes to that like eight years ago and I never learned about Clarence Thomas as a high schooler until you I mentioned it just as a quick aside on his incredible career. I like to do on TV and antidote on radio, too. Sometimes I call it the Hannity history, lesson 'cause I lived through all of this. I know this is going to see. You're not even thirty three, but my radio journey started in nineteen eighty-seven crazy right. Now on my twenty fifth year of Fox, I didn't think I last two. So I feel very blessed. As a side note if you haven't read my grandfather's son. Which is about Clarence Thomas is life. It's amazing. But. You know it's interesting because him and Scalia. To my opinion, my to most favorite justices in my lifetime. Scalia this incredible wit and genius and understanding and. They got a little acerbic side to when when he was questioning Clarence Thomas always set by quietly. What they called a high tech lynching at the time, the more modern. Let it. You gotTA. Remember Yeah. And you know. It was then Senator Ted Kennedy you know Robert Bork's America the borking of America. That was Clarence Thomas. Now we see it more recently cavenaugh. It exposes. The, who is Joe Biden? Who is his team? Because Clarence Thomas and Justice Scalia or the people we need on that court. We call them constitutionalists or originalists, the original intent, not people that would sight foreign law as liberal justices have done or not people that feel that they can rule by judicial Fiat and dictate or legislate from the bench. Democrats always wanted the court to do that which they could never. Do legislatively or win at the ballot box and that's why they want. We call them. Activists Justices Clarence Thomas. has shown a fidelity to the Constitution at the Antony Scalia. That is beyond enviable And the differences styles always interesting, too because Justice Thomas will always be quiet. That's very few questions. Anthony Scalia was in there in a wrestling with people. I don't know about John Roberts. I can't get into it, but I do believe the next president United States is a very good chance. You have a lot of older justices may want to retire. And I think that the next this election in just three short months. That's on the ballot and that's that's generational now. And Sean I think we have to pressure the Biden campaign to do what trump did and release a list of justices I mean president trump was so transparent and Joe Biden hasn't done it yet. Intentionally, of course, because he'll probably put repeated to lieber something on the United States Supreme Court I mean as horrifying as that might be so in two two quick closing question Sean and thank you for being so generous with your time anchorage, everyone you know. Know go by live, free or die. the first is this. Can you just talk about? We are heading into the election. A lot of trump supporters. They're failed. They're falling victim. They suppression pulse I wish that wasn't the case, but it seems like the memory of two thousand sixteen as faded where people forget. We were down by double digits. Can you just give a little vote of confidence to some of our listeners out there? That think we're just losing. I WANNA. Give the vote of confidence, but I want people to feel this way. I want people to think I'll use a football analogy that our mutual friend Linda that you know. Who's your biggest fan? My radio producer? He's amazing. Amazing, but she doesn't even know how many points you get a touchdown, so I'm giving these football analogies. I, want this election. I want people to feel the way I feel which is. We're on our own twenty. Two minutes to go. We have no time outs We're down by six. We got a cross. The plane marched down the field, cross the plane and hit the extra point to win. So if people feel a sense of genuine urgency and worry and concern, I'm cool with that because fear often as a great motivator, not irrational field fear, but if people do not vote, you will get the government that they're telling you. They're going to give you believe. That that is their agenda. To be a Republican and win. You GotTa always use this analogy got to run the table I gotTA. Get Florida Georgia North Carolina can't win without Ohio. No Republican's ever become president without it right? You got hold Iowa then you got pick off Pennsylvania Wisconsin hopefully Michigan maybe MINNEA- Minnesota will be play. Maybe the city of Arizona will be in play. By Joe Biden reference for those of you. That didn't get. We got a hold Arizona Gopher Nevada New Mexico. New Hampshire and Maine's second congressional district. If every single mom, this is a battle cry. You started out this interview with this. I wrote this book not because I like writing books. My last book I donated every Penny I made to charity I don't care. It's not that. This is a tipping point. Charlie this is I, don't. See if these policies are implemented how America recovers. Irreparable harm the to the rule of law to our courts to our economy, they want to wipe out the lifeblood of of the world's economy. This this promise of socialism and I go into such detail about how it's always failed. Here's a quick socialism of example. Member obamacare. Keep your doctor keep your plan. Save on average twenty five hundred dollars a year per family right? Okay. Millions lost their doctors. Millions lost their plans. We're all paying about two hundred percent more and add to that. Forty percent of Americans almost forty percent have only one obamacare Biden Carriage James Choice now. How did they do with that promise? Medicare is going broke. How did they do it? That promised social security. Charlie hate the break this here. He paying into it. You probably won't get it I. Barely Skate through, and they might give me ten cents until they means tested and then take it back, How does it? How did Liberal government work in New York City with all the anarchy cutting a billion dollars, so please? How's IT WORKING IN CHICAGO? All. These liberal cities have where the violence we've been talking about takes place. They all have one thing in common. They've been run by Liberal Democrats for decades right. Most of these states have been run into the ground by Liberal Democrats for decades. If you WANNA know what America will look like if Biden Bolshevik Bernie. Pelosi Schumer and Bozo. That team gets place look at new. York state and city look at Chicago the City Illinois. The State Look at California. Look at Oregon. Look at Portland, the city. Look at Seattle. Look at the state of Washington. Yes. And I. Love this country too much. You know it's an all hands on deck moment and Every everyone of you've got this connection with younger people in this country. You have this incredible. A credible platform you built, and it's become powerful and meaningful and transformative to the country, and you're going out there, and you're fighting on these college campuses and you. You know it's not easy to be in the middle of a I call it a shift. Show all the time, but let's well put, but you do it. And it's freedom works. Every time you give up freedom for security, you lose your freedom because the security that they're offering. These promises that can never ever be fulfilled. In America. The land. I'll close with this unless you want to go further I can keep going the. Barry Farber who was a mentor of mine. Just recently passed away like ninety ninety one. And he always said there's never been a country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power and abused at less than the United States well I add. A country in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power abused at less, but used it to advanced human condition. The reason America is great and exceptional. If I can say that today, it's not perfect, but it's great. An exceptional is because of its people, and because of the fundamentals of liberty and freedom. So that? Natural rights versus government or rights, natural rights come from God doubt by our Creator. Life Liberty pursuit of happiness while you can't pursue happiness these days in Chicago New York Moreland Seattle. So there's a lot on the line. I love your audience. I'm so thankful for all you're doing, and you've got a great team that you building review and you're out there fighting the fight and I just urge you guys. Just fight like your country depends on it. Because America's, we know it. It's all hanging in the balance. Yet was Sean. You've been so generous the last quick thing I defend the president all the time personally as a person. Can you comment on that because I've had the opportunity to meet him? not as much as you obviously and get to know him, but a lot of people here misrepresentations in lies about who he is as a human being. Let's close on this note. Can you just mention one or two things that that people can take away from that? You know first of all. It's interesting. Nobody seems to understand Donald trump yet. They don't want to understand. I mean Donald Trump. The Dog Bites the beasts, things you feeling sad or get cancer. You Complain Trump. I mean that's how saying the leftist. But here's a guy that is so unique he this guy is like a soon nami force of energy like I've never met my life. The most distinct and unique quality he's had is as president. You mentioned the Supreme Court. He put those people that he said he put. He cut the bureaucracy as he said he'd caught, and he cut the taxes as he said he'd cut. He did the North Dakota. A keystone pipelines Anwar Likey said he would. He's building the wall or almost four hundred miles. A wall by the by election will be over four hundred miles. He found a way it was. It was an uphill climb He said he wanted to pull us out of foreign conflicts, but not back away from evil defeated. The Caliphate took out. Baghdadi and Associates took out Sola Mani took out the Al. Qaeda leader in Yemen. So? What makes him special and unique in terms of presidency is that he is who you see is who you get. The guy that's fights on twitter is the guy that's fighting for a better trade. Deal the guy that fights. Against Liberal Democrats and the media mob is the same guy is fighting to keep his promises that to me makes him the most unique transformative political figure in our lifetime. And Right now. The. We tip the scales. You have a choice. It's never been a bigger choice. He will keep his promises. Coronas been a little bit of a curve ball to the world, but even that ten days after the first case, the only guy that I know of thought about a travel ban will be donald trump. They were teaching at the time and Joe Binder Biden was call them Sinophobic, so he's a man of his word. He's a man that will fight to his last dying breath for this country and the promises he made, and that makes them in my view very transformative. Men will. The book is live for Your Die God bless you, Sean, thank you for that. You do and we really appreciate. It helps you soon. Thanks bye. What a great conversation that was! Please email me or questions freedom. Charlie Kirk Dot Com freedom at Charlie. KIRK DOT COM please type in trolley. Kirk, show your podcast provider. Hit subscribe, give us a five star reviews screen shot at an email us. If you want to win a signed copy of the Maga- doctrine, please get involved with turning-point USA at Teepee USA dot com that is Teepee USA DOT com. 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Arson suspected in fire at Arizona Democratic Party headquarters
"In Phoenix suspect the fire that destroyed the state's Democratic Party headquarters this morning was caused by arson from member station K. J A. Z Z. Scott Bork reports. Firefighters responded to reports of smoke pouring out of the party headquarters around 1 a.m. By mid afternoon, Investigators reported that the fire was set intentionally. Arizona Democratic Party chairwoman Felicia Rosellini says staff were all working remotely, so the damage to operations was minimal, continue business as usual, and so will this is incredibly unfortunate it we're not gonna let it be a distraction that takes our eyes off the prize and we're going to continue to work very hard to make sure we get Democrats elected up and down the ballot. Nobody was injured in the blaze, which struck less than two weeks ahead of the state's primary elections. For NPR News. I'm Scott Bork in Phoenix President
"bork" Discussed on OC Talk Radio
"Wisdom as anyone I have ever known Jennifer and I worked very closely together in the late nineties and early two thousands. Is that right to my dates right jen? I think that's about right. It seems like it wasn't that long ago, but that is a lifetime Adele. Yet it is and and Jennifer was the executive director of my company She, but but her real job was My Creative Muse. Apart from my wife. I don't think. Gets me. That really understands me like Jennifer. She understands my personal strengths. The one or two that I have as well as my. Core pathologies that drive three quarters of what I do. Think so today Jennifer. Jennifer I plan. We're GONNA have somewhat of a rambling conversation of catching up, but then we are going to talk about some serious topics but we really haven't chatted except for once briefly. In nearly a decade and so. The we will be brainstorming today. The meaning of life like we can do that in thirty minutes and but that's for. Just for average for everyday people like us, not for your Highfalutin thinkers and we most likely will slip into a discussion of the impacts and learning means of the past month of months of quarantine, and what it may look like in the future so jen bork. Welcome to the next chapter with me. That was a well I. I can't say thank you enough. I am so honored that my friend reached out across the country across time and across. His face math to reach out to me, As your listeners probably already know from the time that they've spent listening to you and how they imagined that you are. This is how you are. This is not an act Charlie. Is this smart? He is fun. He is also. You might not know Charley. crazier in person. But I don't mean crazy in a way that a scary I mean crazy in a way that you cannot wait to just buckle in and go on a ride with them. Jennifer weekend just Thank you for joining us on the PODCAST. That was that was all the needs to be said for the whole podcast? was done. So, let's do a little bit because I think it will be interesting to our audience because you do have an interesting. An interesting sort of lifestyle and that. Your husband John is a veteran of. Somalia Afghanistan he was a helicopter pilot. He's a colonel in the marines and he's now a commercial pilot for Delta. Is that correct? Correct. Yeah. He's flying out of Detroit and he's an engineer. He and he's I. wrote it and I I didn't know how to phrase this correctly. A home designed furniture. Creative. Warped Mind Guy. A heck of a kisser. Heck! Sir. That never makes it on any of his resumes, but yes, that is on his list of challenge. Well that can't hurt that. You know that that can't hurt an marriage. You know rarely not rarely I have never heard of wife comment about her husband's. Kissing Forte. So that. I'M NOT GONNA unfortunately I'm not going to check it out I'm not going to get to see what this like. I will take your word for it. Let me. See if I had this in my notes I. Don't tell me you know what I want to know about because I probably have it somewhere, but I wanna I wanNA. Start with this. Your Makeup Guru. Thing is so fun Jennifer. I mean I I I actually watched them for ten or fifteen minutes for you to convert yourself from. And it is so fun you know you're just flat gorgeous, and and and will you're gorgeous with no makeup. Then put makeup on, and you know you're a model. I, mean it's It's amazing. It's amazing what you do with this. Is that little business? Do well for you. You know it, does it? It's one of those things that I just have like this weird little niche where I can put into words how all these mysterious smoke and mirrors things actually work. It's very difficult when you walk into a big giant beauty store to try and understand how it all works you just need. Everybody just needs someone to sit you down and show you how it all works, and so I decided instead of that. Why don't I just go on facebook? Where there are tons of people, you know my social media sites and just? Talk to people I talked to my friends and I. It's amazing. It's so much fun. People really like it. You have a great following man. I see all the comments that come from your following, and yeah, the really good following, and it sounds like you really you really do believe in your product. Yeah I talk about things that I don't like so yeah I I. Make sure that I only would tell you anyone to buy something that I would tell my friend that I see every day. That would come back and say. I hate this so I. Don't sell products that people wouldn't like and I like to endorse people that make great stuff. Yeah you're. Very kind that's just out of the goodness of your heart. You know I I've talked to my wife and said I I am so glad I am not a woman. I cannot believe first of all I cannot believe the time spent in the morning putting this shit on, and then you spend at least a quarter of that time taking it off at night. Right. Well, we try not to call our products shit. Well that's a man's point. Now. Men likes.
Washington D.C. Northwestern High School basketball coach dies from COVID-19
"The danger of the pandemic seems to especially hit home when you learn of the sudden death of someone in our community we're learning about that today in a letter to the prince George's county public school community CEO Monica Golson reports the death of northwestern high school professional school counselor and head basketball coach Terrence Burke Golson says it's with a heavy heart she's announcing the death of Burke from coronavirus Burke's linkedin page indicates he's been with the school since two thousand six and is a navy veteran extending her sympathy he's the head of the public school system says Bork impacted countless young lives in as many years at northwestern take your Leon WTOP
Democratic candidates go head-to-head on the Supreme Court
"I want to turn to the Supreme Court the balance on the court and the issues before the court right now president trump in just the last twenty four hours saying we've appointed one hundred ninety one federal judges to Supreme Court justices keeping his campaign promise to ship the court to the right with new Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh before it'll characters at the court climate change is working its way to the court and a major abortion cases on the docket this year but president Biden on the issue of abortion in twenty twelve you said president Obama's two Supreme Court pics of them there was no litmus test we pick people who an open mind did not come with an agenda and you said before we both believe that we should not apply Nero litmus tests to appointees to the Supreme Court but I also let me just let me just ask would you do it differently as president Mister vice president whether be a litmus test for say the rest of what I said I said that we are not not appoint anyone who did not have a view that on a new rate right suggested in the constitution that's not a specific test is a generic chest and only way the only reason women have the right to choose is because it's a term that there's underwriter rights coming from the ninth amendment in the constitution that's what I said I was I was part of the reason why Elena Kagan a work from beyond the Supreme Court I was part of the reason why Ruth trader Ginsberg is on the court I was part of the reason why certain wears on the court issued for me and hi to reside and I'm the reason why this right wasn't taking away a long time ago because I almost single handedly made sure the Robert Bork did not get on the court because he did not think there should be no right right on right for let me just straight Mister vice president I am aware of what you said is which is why I'm asking would you do it differently now would there be a litmus test on abortion yes there's a deal litmus test on abortion relates to of them fundamental value the constitution a woman does have a right to choose I would in fact if they ruled to be unconstitutional I will send to the United States con the Senate will pass I believe a bill that off that that that should be legislates Rovi way to Dodge adjusted by Casey it sure is a woman's right to do that and if you call that listens to us as a litmus test but what I was talking about the passer know which gets confused here is if there is no if you if you read the constitution very very narrowly and say there are no own enumerated rights of the judges say in the constitution doesn't exist you cannot have any of the things I care about anything I care about is a progressive members United States Congress at the time and as vice president as a member of
An Introduction to Star Trek: Picard
"We're GonNa talk about everything we know about the card series to date and talk a little bit about Picard the character and provide even a little primer as far as if you want to go back in and reacquaint yourself with the character we can give view a few episodes to pick from and of course if you have? CBS All access. You have access to the full star Trek Universe at least as far as the small screen green is concerned. And I'm really loving the chance to get back in here and revisit some of this show that I haven't watched it's probably been ten years since my last. Tng Oh gee rewatch so. It's nice to have it fresh in my mind. Yeah so just to clarify busy. I mean this will be the first of a few prepaid card a podcast. We're doing I would say people looking for speculation as to you know who are these new characters were seeing. What do the trailer show? I think it's safe to say we'll probably touch upon it but I think it'd be better. It'd be covered in its own separate pot castle in a couple of weeks. This is more so podcast for like. Hey Do you know who John Luc Picard is. Do you remember win. Romulus was destroyed. Who the hell seven of nine this is? Sort of like a cannon catch up to get people either reacquainted or caught up for the first time with what exactly these characters are bringing that we know of before we move forward with characters old and new I guess to start I mean before we even get into anything with with what we know of Joel mccower and the characters around him he jesse talked about manifesting. This so what are your thoughts when you initially found out because there are obviously rumblings blinks about it Patrick Stewart announced. I think in Vegas a couple years ago that it was a thing. We got trailers over the course of twenty nineteen. So what did you think about this actually becoming a reality Eh. Well this is like every fan's dream I think there's nobody out there that puts picard at the bottom of their captain rankings. Out He is. The most is the most fun I think the most layered of the captains the I think he's definitely the captain where there's the most territory left to explore. And and I think the place we left him was so tantalizing like whichever playing you WANNA say. We really left him on whether it's the future. Richard Echoes that we saw in the final episode of Star Trek Next Generation. Or whether it's where we left off in the last movie back in two thousand and two and and Mike I know you were in kindergarten or something so you may not be that I. I was in seventh grade. Thank you very much definitely not in the mood to sit down for two hour long star Trek movies at that point but you know uh not not a not a little bit of a baby in the bork incubator. A little bit more of an adolescent. That's an all right. All right fair enough. You knew the Star Trek existed in was a thing exactly. Yeah and I would say that at that point. That was also so what that was when we were nearing the end. I think we're already a couple years removed from the D. S. nine voyager double feature creature feature so ah it definitely was like star. Trek was in the atmosphere but considering that I was born during season three of next generation I can't say that Picard. Even from Star Trek Perspective was top of mind for my twelve year old brain. It's true and I think twelve is probably also the wrong age to start formulating your final star trek opinions. Even if you do grow up with it. Yeah that's very true unless maybe if you place my memory in a satellite that allows it to live out for the next thirty five years really formulate my thoughts on him. Yeah Yeah Well I love I love it. We when they play fast and loose with the human consciousness as we'll talk about when we start breaking down some of our favorite card episodes I think that will it became apparent. Yeah I mean this. I can't believe we're talking about. There's like this is crazy because not only is this a star Trek nerds dream come true but it also at least from what I had heard for a while Patrick Stewart got to the point. Where like he was didn't even want to acknowledge Picard? Like there was a rumor. I I think in Hollywood that like. Hey if you're working with Patrick Stewart on a project don't mention John Luc Picard of the next generation. Because he won't be happy with it. I think for a while he felt like actually actually bit contrary to your point. He felt like his character's journey had come to an end. He felt that book was closed. But I guess he's been giving interviews obviously in the past year and he said that getting to experience how much the next generation specifically meant to a hole for lack of a better term generation of people. I think touch them in a way that made him genuinely want to revisit the character which makes me happy and from what I've seen in terms of all the preseason press he's been doing he seems to just be having the time of his life life which makes me very happy. It's not necessarily dragging Harrison Ford onto the set of the force awakens. And you know making him go through the motions again. This is someone who is genuinely invested. Did in going back to the character are living in an era of peak nostalgia. I feel like everything is a reboot of everything nowadays Yeah I think. I think you're right about Patrick. Stewart kind of wanting to distance himself from card for a very long time and I think even at the point when he began playing card. I think I think the character played by Alan Rickman and Galaxy Quest. We all agree. That is kind of making fun of Patrick Stewart to some. Yeah even though he's supposed to be I think the science it's officers. so He's more of like the spock or type. I think the fact that this is this like like you said this. This master Thespian. WHO's been beleaguered to have to give off all of these over the top lines and also SCIENC- terms that don't make a lot of sense and repetition? That's just been what we all imagined. Jamais Patrick Stewart was thinking through. So yeah I mean it's very clear. What sort of his perspective isn't that also reflected in the character as well? We'll get a bit into it but obviously popcorn a huge departure from a captain like Kirk who had experience from the original series. And I think that's very very much due not just the different natures of William Shatner and Patrick Stewart in terms of the way they just sort of compose themselves. I think it's also it's a difference between tween how seriously the show took itself because I think star trek the original series probably didn't necessarily take itself super seriously as it was being formulated plated. It's very imaginative. Show to be sure but I think there's there's always like a little bit of self awareness and then I remember I was very young when Star Trek the next generation premiered and I remember being struck by you know little eight year old me watching this show thinking this takes itself much more seriously and it's kind of. It's a double edged sword because I think next generation was able to explore some themes that original series series star Trek attempted to certainly was groundbreaking for its time. But there's a lot more gravitas especially the early season episodes episodes where they're really trying to feel out exactly how serious they could be in the swing in the wrong direction a few times and I think you get you get this starship led by this very serious captain at times like I think picard strikes me as someone who's he's much more even tempered and he takes his position position like he's having a lot less fun in the very beginning at least yeah. It's sort of like this is a very loose sketch. But he served the bird to Kirk Ernie right where he definitely seems to be a bit more like fun free shirl ago sleep with some Orion women and look we'll definitely get into some adventures that picard had both romantically frantically and otherwise. But I totally agree with you. He walked in like vary by the books. He's very good. There's a reason why he has a maneuver named dafter him when he had with the previous starship that he had worked for but he seems someone who like you said was a very sobering presence and I think that really you not only set the tone for the ship but also for the show
Starliner: Boeing, Boeing... it's back! Borked capsule makes a successful return to Earth
"The Boeing starliner has returned to planet earth landing about nine o'clock this morning in white sands New Mexico there was a software glitch that caused the problem reaching the I.
"bork" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"If yeah we've been fighting vengeance warfare since the Bork hearings back during break it this this is only going to further for art the bard and split the country into and it and it's just going to get out of control art for my country because these Democrats will use the constitutional white the partner that they burn but the state where thank you Richard appreciate it want to get many of your reactions here on Megan and Indian Head is next hello Megan you're on to be a male Hey Leri okay so I send you an email like nine twenty five this morning just in case you then yet and I recorded I was watching you know from the very beginning this morning and it really I mean Collins and now they're worth getting into it with each other yeah and Colin wanted to get a vote I guess over you know who who was four against them doing a minority hearing yeah you just traditionally the minority party on the Judiciary Committee get to have a day where they call their witnesses and have a hearing and Jerry Nadler the chairman broke through all precedent in all how standards and rules and said nope you don't get a voice here right so they're having a voice vote out help you paint the picture Meghan and I go ahead what did you see well so I want to say it was like the four horsemen anyway the first female as they came to clearly show the Democrats he was just walking in to the hearing yeah while they are taking us about that's right and she didn't even know what they are voting over and she's going to set her coffee down how do we got in her seat and she was called upon to make for about and she does hi yeah I'm screaming at the TV I'm like you that's right bothered to show up for the debate hadn't bothered to hear anything or any of the arguments made she was out there standing in line for a double latte Megan so she could have a Starbucks and she walked in and without any emotion or any he is one hi because he's voting with her party right and I don't know if you have a moment for this to you I I am screaming at the TV he would like to talk about how this phone call was you know it can reflect or and very interfere with me twenty twenty elections I'm sorry if anybody was paying attention to the hearing with David Holmes and the and the British woman I'm really bad with names at the moment said when he first got wind of this investigation going to be taking place for the president wanted to get information about you know the fight and stuff and the corruption he first heard about it Marc by and wait until April and nobody's even though he got wind of it mark you know the conversation has been taking place.
Top jockey Eurico Rosa da Silva to retire
"Very few successful athletes get to win their illustrious career here's by going out on top a handful come to mind John elway one super bowls in his last two years with the Denver Broncos Peyton manning went out with a super bowl win I'm for that same team Ray Bork left the NHL team with which he'll forever be associated the Boston Bruins to win a Stanley Cup with Colorado and then jet off into the sunset it could be the same kind of fairy tale ending to the career of one of the most successful jockeys North America Eurico Rosa Dasilva who was written primarily at Woodbine race course in Toronto for the past fifteen years the forty four year old rider will call it a career sometime in mid December he's one six sovereign awards for best writer the sovereigns are the eclipse awards of Canada he's been the leading writer at Woodbine five times and won back to back queen's plates the Kentucky Derby of Canada in September he took down for what will be the only time one of the tracks signature races and by so doing wing now has a chance to cap his career with the Breeders Cup win they come to the home stretch the Rica Woodbine Mile Lou collina's Kliot down the outside of mass up the rails all across the track and L. Tournament coming through God's stormies in front to Second L. Tormenta Luke Collina's they're raging bull starting to build a run late in the latest what stormy that Philip Dodd Manta up the inside strides astrid L. dollars Meta on the inside and L. A. has one Rico with by L. Tormenta was forty four to one that day and now he's being pointed to the Breeders Cup Mile he'll no doubt be a long shot Swell facing the likes of got stormy Higher Power Uni and possibly circus maximus but hey a win for L. Tormenta over that group would be a real story book ending the career of our next guest Jockey Eurico Rosa Silva who joins us for a few minutes here on in the gate you've been around logging enough to know that forty four to one shots don't come in every day especially in grade one races so what was going through your head as you powered down the lane to win the Woodbine Mile Tormenta when when I was on the race what's compete under moment I was not thinking winning or or lose us me and him we both doing the weekend through two hundred race right and was completed on their moment or so folks all we want it could wire I you had not much experience with that horse before the Woodbine Mile I think but he had been a turf sprinter last year at age three free so what do you think made trainer Gail Cox decide to stretch this gelding out a little yes I think falling these horse he used to go to the elite before and he was a sprinter and you know they start taking him back and he learned how to relax and then they stretch him out and I think that was the key for him you know to learn how to relax and today he is I can say that they did very good job because he's he's not a horse to ride you know he relaxed that easy for you as we talked about an are open you're retiring basically at the top of your game made now the right time the right time for me is that I'm young to start a new business and my kids I really really want to focus on my family you've said that you grew up without family and you don't want that to happen to your three young children including a nine month old daughter congratulations what do you mean that you grew up without family when Noah's keeping my mom was always working I completed grew up Foodie much without my father and that's almost could create a black hole inside yourself you know as much I want to win before the races and I used to have a Lotta anger and I know in fewest I work on myself and that came from being a kid that most of the time King or in the street you know trying to make a leave and when I started understanding more that and I see how important for the keeps to have their baroness supporting them when they're growing up you know and because they didn't have that and also I want to enjoy seen my son my daughter having that with me you know he's not been better for myself I can say that when I'm not tired and I can take my keep to the park and play with them is very subtly fight for me because I raised for the time here and take a lot of promo body and he's very high from to do that well two things first of all I hate to break this to you but eventually those kids are going to become teenagers I have one and it's not really going very well so yes enjoy it all now while you can the other thing is you said you're racing here and you know as a top okay you'd have less trouble than less successful jockeys would booking mounts if you follow the money during colder months let's say to Florida to Kentucky but you've not real he done that it seems I believe once turned down a Breeders Cup ride to raise woodbine instead that day so what is your thought process for how you have set your skin Joel in the wintertime people think oh he's home he's that but you know I really work in myself I have entertained that work inside myself to come through to the recall you showing up on the track you know and he's the kind of really Really set the myself down and work on the brain I I really I never stopped working on the tire year I'll take two weeks like I am free as I'm not going to do anything and just deal with the family other time I use the time that I have time to work with myself inside myself oh jockey Eurico Rosa Dasilva joining us here on in the
The Saturday Night Massacre
"Hey history lovers. I'm Mike Rosen with retro pod a show about the past rediscovered. Some of the historical events we cover on retro pod are moments instead of been lost to time forgotten both in details and an important and then there are the events events that stick with us as constant reminders of what history can teach us. This is one of those this is the story of the Saturday night massacre in nineteen seventy two five members of the committee to reelect President Richard Nixon had been caught breaking into the Democratic National Committee's offices at the Watergate hotel the next year a man named Archibald Cox was appointed when it as a special prosecutor to investigate the incident and determine whether the president had been involved in July Cox issued subpoena for secret recordings the president had made of his Oval Office Conversations Nixon refuse he invoked executive privilege to keep the tapes tapes private until finally months later the US Court of Appeals ruled that Nixon had to comply by then the rift between Nixon and the Justice Department had grown and it was clear the president wanted Cox gone and Nixon still didn't want to turn over the tapes why because the implicated him in a vast cover a few days. It's after the ruling. Nixon tried to broker a deal. He said he would not turn over all the tapes but instead would submit a summary of what was in the parts of the tapes related to Watergate Democratic Senator Within listen to the tapes verifying Nixon's Account Cox's answer nope in a statement published in newspapers on October nineteenth nineteen seventy-three Nixon blamed Cox for not accepting his proposal he called it reasonable compromise and ordered Cox to make no further attempts to obtain information on his conversations in response Cox Fox vowed to continue pursuing the tape recordings but Nixon had another more drastic plan to stop Cox from getting the tapes and put it into action the very next day that day a Saturday attorney general Elliot Elliot Richardson was summoned to the White House back at the Justice Department the Deputy Attorney General and three eighths huddled and Richardson's office. They knew why Richardson was being called all to the White House. He was the only one with the authority to fire Cox. Richardson went to the meeting. When he got back confirm their suspicions the president had ordered him to remove Cox. He refused Richardson was prepared to resign as attorney any general instead then the phone rang. It was White House Chief of Staff Alexander Alexander Haig Calling Deputy Attorney General William Ruggles House Richardson would not fight her 'cause it was now his responsibility to do also ruggles house refused and just like Richardson. He drafted resignation letter next in line with firing authority was. US Less Solicitor General Robert Bork he followed Nixon's orders and agreed to fire Cox Nixon won the special prosecutor was gone but the outcry was swift and loud the unprecedented shakeup at the Justice Justice Department became known as the Saturday night massacre and it triggered public and political backlash that accelerated Nixon's eventual downfall that fateful hateful Saturday night after it was all over Cox delivered a statement on national TV. He told the country whether ours shall continue can you to be a government of laws and not of men is now for Congress and ultimately the American people. I'm Mike Rosenfeld. Thanks for listening special. Thanks to Amy Wang for reporting the story for the Washington Post and for more forgotten stories from history visit Washington Post host dot com slash retro.
Former Federal Prosecutor on Mueller Testimony
"Is the day after now we have the benefit of following up on the testimony of Robert Muller yesterday in the two house committees the judiciary in the intelligence committees immediately afterwards but now people have had a little bit of time to ruminate about what they heard what went on what it all meant and we have a couple of people who will be joining us this afternoon the first one I am delighted to say is Laurie Levenson Laurie Levenson is a professor of law at Loyola law school and she's also a former federal prosecutor and she joins us right now Hey Lori welcome to KGO thank you so much I'm so pleased to be with you I am pleased to have you as well I I don't know why but I didn't realize that you were a former federal prosecutor and I just think that gives you a different kind of look at what went on yesterday than those of us who are lay people especially those of us who aren't even lawyers so from the get go let's start it it out easy what did you think what was your overall impression of his testimony you know you're right I see things a little differently I think lot of people when they tuned in wanted to see the show and I was more interested in the information that we got so I so what mother many other peoples you know Bob Miller is not a great witness most lawyers are not that's not a comfortable role for him but that's not what mattered I think what was important was in the first session they were identifying four to five instances of obstruction and laying out what they believe the president and all these men did in that regard and the Republicans were using it for a totally different type of hearing they wanted this hearing to be held at the mall or investigation get started so was much more of a political show than it was but as we would say a legal proceeding I saw the hearing though before Adam ships committee a little differently for small Adam is a former federal prosecutor I had the pleasure working with him and his family just like that you know he sat out the theme that this is about this loyalty to the country and line and greed and I thought the questioning was much crisper at that point and I think Miller was giving up a little bit more than he had in the morning yeah in the morning it seemed as if a specially at the outset his questions were so limited and there were only certain areas that tended to animate him so a lot of the criticism that we heard immediately following and even into today and if you're reading newspaper articles today and especially if you tune into fox which I really try not to do that a lot of the criticism really does have to do with the performance of Robert Muller and not with the content the context of the information that was being presented what a lot of people say is that it didn't make any difference to the viewing public that most people had already taken a side on this and that based on Muller's testimony nobody is going to change their opinions you agree well I think that there is sort of this entrenchment in politics and along the parties we certainly saw that among the you know congressman who were there and they seem to just follow the pod poly it party flying but you know I am a little more optimistic I mean some of the messaging I do think that across there was and has been and continues to be tremendous Russian interference so to the extent that it gives the president stopped to acting cavalierly about his relationship with pollutants and stop saying things like well yeah I take that information again maybe that's a little bit of a step I don't think that people are going to believe that there's an exoneration but on the other hand I don't think a lot of people here so in the big steps now I don't think it moves the needle in open court and closer to impeachment in fact we may back off from it but the facts are a lot clearer having heard them from Bob Muller yeah I would have I will I want to believe this and so maybe that's the reason I say I would have work I am a member of the Judiciary Committee I would want to move forward with impeachment increase with it with the hearings not a voting right now on articles but moving forward and getting some of the other important figures from the Mahler report and others you know this doesn't have to be limited to what was disclosed in the mall report other witnesses to come in and to testify as to the corruption and the potential criminality in the high crimes and misdemeanors of the of Donald Trump wouldn't you well I think that's where they're headed I mean and I heard that during the hearing name suspect they really want don McGann to come in and testify I don't know if he's any better than Bob Muller is as a witness but I suspect he might be and he certainly had the direct contact with the president I'm here is that nobody got the president to actually provide a statement in person I think that's the biggest lacking in this entire investigation I don't disagree with you that continuing the requests for subpoenas makes sense but there's a trade off and that's what Nancy Pelosi saying she saying are we gonna lose our own people will never get the trump people but will we get lose our own people by being so busy focusing on that and not moving the needle on some real issues that need to be addressed problems out of the house out of the house they can do whatever they want to Mitch McConnell's going to kill it right and I'm you know and that's what the the patch for those who don't want to do impeachment is to say why are we going to do this when we know what's going to happen in the Senate but the outlook tournament of argument is we still don't have all the facts yet you know in my mind do you bring in more witnesses didn't have hope picks come in and don McGann but he just go for like the tax returns because if you have to pay that there are other directions all right lord let me ask you this and I'm I'm very serious about this were speaking by the way with Laurie Levenson she's a professor of law at Loyola and she's a former professor of federal prosecutor now I forget residents saying it was a so utterly important I don't remember anyway altera plunging okay you didn't mention well you're coming back here thought which is you know there was some discussion yesterday and whether he could be charged when he got out of office right and one does wonder what's happening up in New York that would be a normal jurisdiction for that to happen so you know all of this might just sort of be a way to say he's got to be held accountable when the hardest way but the way that's most important is that the coming election and it's frustrating I think that we didn't hear any of the major candidates yesterday remark on the ceiling two yeah none of whom said we second this is the guy who killed said scire Muller this is a guy who told people to lie and he's still somebody you're considering this is a guy who cozied up to the Russians welcome their information I just thought there was a huge irony when the Republicans were saying exoneration doesn't mean anything what was the president himself will interject at that so I nobody called him on the double speak they came after the hearing yeah and I I was very disappointed the democratic candidates because if they want to become president they will also be the head of the Democratic Party and so it's time for them to show that sort of leadership capability but in your comments you did remind me of what I had forgotten to say and it is important and it is bill bar bill bars the Attorney General of the United States and I suspect that he is somebody who can more readily more easily should he choose to obstruct investigations obstruct justice when it comes to president trump including those investigations are happening in federal courts outside of Washington DC how much should we be concerned about what bill bar is doing behind the scenes I am I'm actually very concerned you know when he first came into office I thought well you know he's career he is going to be loyal to doing what's right I don't have that same confidence anymore the what I'm most worried about is the investigation into the steel dossier in the beginning of the investigation I wanted to if you want to play politics he could twist that right against the Democrats and that would be much more damaging than anything that's happened up to now I think that's what they're attempting and there's another thing too and that also relates to some of what you were talking about when the president leaves office and and it Robert Muller made this clear yesterday certainly you can pursue criminal charges against him when he's no longer president except for the statute of limitations and he did not have an answer to that question the LC memo really didn't adequately address that so what does happen doesn't doesn't that by abiding by the LC terms you're assuming the president's only going to serve one term in office and otherwise if he's reelected is above the law well I think that's right I mean this all comes down to the election because I don't agree that that somehow and you told the time while he's in office if he gets a second term he's never going to be prosecuted and that's just a clear message that maybe has to go out to the public yeah I think I think that's absolutely true and I really appreciate you bringing that up listen let's get a one quick call here from one of our listeners before we go this is Lee calling from San Jose Lee welcome to KGO your own with Laurie Levenson go ahead that's wonderful I called the other day and I was very upset I read Gibbons decline and fall of the Roman Empire I could just about Roman history yeah are it and Bob and Cicero on duty right okay yes I'm scared but was just sort of had a scared chopped off are you are you we're gonna take Donald Trump to the guillotine no no well what's your question professor Levinson there's money and power yeah and and the thing is it is but err I will I used to be in touch with senator Robert Bork yes and we were we were to change letters in mail right yeah and he wrote losing America and that was when bush was president right so do you have a question for professor Levinson because I have limited time with her right now only no I understand I'm sorry it's okay I mean I I would like to respond to him yes please thank you Sir thank you Sir for realizing that what we face now is something that we've been warned about for centuries and then it comes down some of those basic values I think when Adam yes didn't get into the details but he got into what is at stake here as you mentioned before that really is what's at stake it's not about an individual prosecution it's not about an individual count it's not about about an element of the crime it's about the really big pictures and a threat to democracy so I don't mean to be overly dramatic but I think you're right on the spot I think we're being unduly dramatic at this point I mean it is turned into what some people view is a political game and the stakes as you said are so much higher than that we all need to pay attention and I do believe that Congress has to do its duty under the constitution and so do we as citizens we have to clamor for the kind of for the Congress to do its job and for the president to not be above the law and unless we do that man we set a precedent that I think it's scary you know I heard somebody that I respect tremendously yesterday he was actually in studio with me he's one of my colleagues and he said I'm opposed to impeachment Pat I'm opposed to impeach with because it overthrows the will of the people and I boggles my mind as well is it ever appropriate then because anytime you impeach an elected representative you're gonna overthrow the will of the people but there's a reason for it well you know I think that what we've learned is impeachment and politics can I like law a lot because it's a lot more certain were in really uncertain times thank you for having me on and thank you so much so it's been a pleasure talking with you eighty eighty a tennis or telephone number will come back with your telephone calls as we talk about the aftermath of the molar testimony and where do you think we go from here will the Democrats do you think by pursuing impeachment inquiry will they begin the hearings the hearings which really will allow them to get more witnesses and more information because the courts are going to be tilted toward what the Congress is asking for when what they are asking for is part and parcel of an impeachment investigation which is which is entirely within the purview of the Congress eighty eighty eight ten is the
"bork" Discussed on 710 WOR
"Upcoming workweek Todd Bork. President Trump is saying, he's not sure he believes in aliens, but he's leaving the door open in ABC news interview, the president was asked Pacific about recent reports of navy pilot saying they've encountered, unidentified flying objects Trump applied. I want them to think whatever they think, but said he didn't particularly believe all of the accounts. Start your day with Len Berman and Michael Riedel in the morning. Six until ten Monday morning. I'm Lisa Matteo on seven ten WR an NBC News Radio station. The best of Sean Hannity is on now. Think that the president will be impeached, or at least proceedings will begin in the house at some point, but just not right now. Yes, feel because when you see what they say, no, but no, it was wrong to talk to Russians about this. I don't know how it is explain that to kids in the hood. The speaker has not reached the conclusion, and I haven't either that is best for the country to put us through impeachment proceeding that we know is destined for failure in the Senate is. Revolution. Sean. Information. News and more bold, inspired solutions for America. Happy Monday hope you had a great weekend. Eight.
Antitrust 3: Big Tech
"Today's show is part three of what I have been calling the planet money antitrust trilogy. The show we much better. If you go back and listen to the first two episodes. If you do not here is the text that scrolls on the screen at the beginning of the movie. United States government used to us antitrust law a lot to protect small companies against big companies in the name of competition. Then there was a backlash led by judge named Robert Bork. He wrote a book called the antitrust paradox. That argued antitrust enforcement had gotten out of hand and the government needed to back off now in the past couple of years as a few tech companies have gotten very big and very powerful a backlash to the backlash has begun. My name is Lena Khan, and I'm an academic fellow Columbia law school in a senior fellow at the open markets institute. And you're a lawyer I'm a lawyer when Lena Khan was in law school two years ago. She wrote a paper for the law review. What was the title of the paper Amazon's antitrust paradox an allusion to that Bork book the antitrust paradox? Why did you choose that title? I was interested in exploring how Bork's approached antitrust had enabled Amazon's rise and the paradise. Talks with Amazon seemed to me that here we had a company that was amassing dominance in various markets. But our current approach to antitrust law was really keeping us blind. So that dominance, and so that to me seemed like an interesting tension or current approach to antitrust law. Bork's approach is known as consumer welfare, and the basic idea is low prices and lots of choices are good. If consumers are getting these things, then there's no antitrust problem and clearly Amazon has delivered low prices and lots of choices. So it hasn't run into much trouble with antitrust law in the United States, and yet Lena argued in this paper, there are things that Amazon has done that have been bad for competition. So her wonky article comes out, she hears from a few antitrust lawyers. Then her article gets mentioned in the New York Times that spurred kind of a new wave of interest. And so I just started receiving more and more emails somewhat modest about this, which I respect that. Tremendous amount. Even though it's not good for our story. What she is not saying is that this student law review article completely blew up. I mean, I know you didn't go on Ellen or whatever. But we're did you go. I got big. We know it got big Lena. Con learn that the rise of a few giant tech companies had made this very wonky thing antitrust policy, suddenly feel urgent and important to lots of ordinary people. Is it bad? These companies are so big are they assigned that the free market is failing us and competition is disappearing. Do we need to think about antitrust in a new way congressman wanted to meet with her the Washington Post in the Atlantic wanted to profiler CNBC NPR, and she joins me now to talk about how antitrust law handles Amazon. Lena, thank you for being with us. Good to be here. Let me first say Amazon is among NPR's corporate sponsors, right? We're going to have to talk about that. Hello and welcome to planet money. I'm Jacob Goldstein. I'm Kenny Malone today on the show, Amazon one of our corporate sponsors and Facebook, also corporate sponsor and Google. I think a corporate sponsor Nata corporates. Oh, okay. But all of this is kind of the point these three companies are suddenly everywhere, they have an incredible amount of money and power and Lena is part of this new wave of thinkers who are starting to say, maybe the rise of these giant tech companies is a sign that antitrust is broken, and we need to fix it.
A Search For New Ways To Pay For Drugs That Cost A Mint
"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything. New astronomically expensive drugs are expected on the market in the next few years, and they could drive up the cost of medicine and health insurance for everyone. And here's Richard Harris reports these new treatments are gene therapies, which target certain cancers and rare diseases take, for example, hemophilia an inherited disorder that prevents person's blood from clotting properly Bork Skinner is one of about twenty thousand Americans with the condition. So when I was born treatment did not exist for him affiliated with my lifetime. I'm fifty eight years old there have been remarkable advances now gives himself daily injections of expensive medication to prevent the painful and potentially dangerous bleeding episodes Skinner says eight or nine companies. Are now working on treatments that could actually cure his underlying condition by think we could see a gene therapy in the clinics and available to patients within a couple of years. One infusion might be enough to correct the genetic flaw and give him many years. Maybe even a lifetime free from bleeding episodes in daily medication drugs that often cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. And so a gene therapy that costs a million dollars or even two million dollars. You could see it becoming economically viable over a couple years in terms of return of investment for a health system in certainly significant savings over a lifetime. But it could also be a big shock to the system. Gene therapy for every American with feely could cost tens of billions of dollars. Mark truce heimat MIT says a few years ago insurance companies balked at the new high price drugs to cure, hepatitis C and ended up rationing treatment with that happened for hemophilia for gene therapy came through and was re. Reasonably expensive. It would be terrible. If we treat a thousand patients year and took us ten or fifteen years to treat all those people true Symes effort at MIT called the new digs program is trying to dream up better ways to pay for expensive new long-term treatments. We're used to paying as we go for drugs with monthly bills for monthly pills. Truce I'm says, it's like paying rent on an apartment, but now with these new gene therapies, we got to take the treatment once and it can last for years, perhaps a lifetime perhaps ten years, but certainly for many years, he says, it makes more sense than to think of these drugs in terms of paying a mortgage over time for a condo rather than paying monthly rent. Plus, we have the option here not just to turn it into a mortgage payment, but make that mortgage payment contingent on whether the apartments really a good apartment or not if the roof begins to leak. Maybe we won't pay so much on the future payments. This strategy has already been put to use for one gene therapy, which treats an inherited form of blindness and a cost of eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars the company that produces that has agreed to give health insurers some money back. If a patient's vision doesn't improve enough truce I'm is eager to get funding. Schemes like this instituted now because he expects to see another three dozen new expensive therapies coming online. And just the next four years. Those include treatments called cartesian for cancer and gene therapies for diseases that up till now have had no treatment at all could be really exciting. But the could also be really expensive as were treating conditions. We never used to be able to treat. The technology seems poised to take off with hundreds of potential treatments in the pipeline. Good for health tough on the nation's health care budget at a recent conference in Washington DC, Joe Grogan from the White House office of management and budget warned that it could. Push healthcare spending over the edge. If we get a care for Alzheimer's priced at one hundred thousand dollars are million dollars. A pop were toast that could add trillions. So the cost of healthcare even of politicians dip into control drug prices. These products cost a lot to develop so they will still be expensive. Mark Skinner says we will need creative ways to manage that at the pace which gene therapies coming. I think we have no choice. I don't think the public would tolerate cure sitting on the shelf that people don't have access to a solution will require not only new ways of thinking, but new rules and regulations that govern how insurance companies and government programs pay for medical care. Richard Harris, NPR news.
Ex-Congresswoman who voted to impeach Nixon: Trump firing Sessions brings back troubling memories
"That gives Democrats subpoena power for the first time since President Donald Trump was elected two years ago a day after the election, Trump fired attorney general Jeff Sessions Trump's firing of sessions has led to many comparisons between Trump and former president Richard Nixon on Wednesday CNN's Jake tapper cold sessions ouster another chapter in quote, a slow motion multi-month Saturday night massacre. He was referencing the infamous Saturday night massacre in nineteen Seventy-three when then attorney general Elliot Richardson, and his deputy resigned after president Richard Nixon ordered Richardson to fire the special prosecutor investigating the Watergate scandal for more. We continue our conversation with Elizabeth thoughts. C'mon. Former US congresswoman from New York, she served on the House Judiciary committee that voted to impeach Richard Nixon for over forty years. She had the record of being the young woman ever elected to congress. Her new book the case for impeaching Trump is out Monday still with us. David Cole national legal director for the American Civil Liberties union, so the Saturday night massacre. I mean as you were watching this unfold yet yesterday, Liz, you must have. It must be you must have been flooded with memories. Oh, yeah. And it's not just happy memories is very troubling memories. In fact, you can say that you get you know, tangling up and down your spine from the repetition here. What what triggered Richard Nixon's impeachment was his view that he was above the law, and particularly that he could not be held accountable. He and his staff and his colleagues accountable under the criminal law. So when the special prosecutor. Asked for his tapes, Nixon had White House tapes and the tapes could prove whether or not he had ordered a cover up. Nixon said, no, you're not getting the tapes, and you're going to be fired and the American and he ordered the special prosecutor fired the America, and to the attorney general resigned deputy attorney general resigned, and then Robert Bork's number three fired at the American people. Understood what was going on. They knew that the tapes could prove whether the whether the president of the United States had engaged in a cover up or whether John dean who led she'd been involved in the cover-up was lying who was telling the truth. They understood this, and they said congress you have to do something about it. And these were tapes that Richard Nixon had secretly ordered himself the thing of the White House. Correct. And so at that point the impeachment Corey started, we didn't know exactly where it was going to go. But that's when it started. And right now you have. The president of the United States who had weighed deliberately till after the midterm election. So it would have no adverse political impact on him to fire the turn general the United States. Why did he fire him? There's nothing that as Mr. call set has nothing that sessions did that was contrary to his political view. I mean, political agenda the president's political views or political agenda, except then he wouldn't take control and he wouldn't oversee and he wouldn't supervise and he wouldn't interfere with Muller's investigation. And that was a NASA to this president because this president just like Nixon wants to control the criminal process that's gonna take place against him and his friends, and that is if we go down that road, we're becoming a banana Republic that's not the United States of America where a country that's committed to the rule of law and the president cannot put his finger on the thumb on the scale his thumb on the scale of Justice. That's. Not going to happen. And if it does happen, then God helped merica, well, independent Senator Bernie Sanders has warned that any attempt at obstruction on Trump's part of -struction of the Russia probe would be an impeachable offense. He tweeted Wednesday, quote, any attempt by the president or the Justice department to interfere with Muller's probe would be an obstruction of Justice and an impeachable offense goes no question about that. That was the firing of by Richard Nixon. Of Archibald Cox special prosecutor to stop and squelch that investigation was one of the grants, but the impeachment vote against Richard Nixon. So it may not you don't even need to go much farther. I think than even the appointment of Mr. Whittaker because it seems a parent that Mr. Whitaker is there for one purpose, which is to control an interfere with this investigation. And that turns out to be an congress can investigate that. And if it turns out that the purpose was to interfere with this investigation that in and of itself becomes not only basis for becomes the basis for the removal and impeachment of Donald Trump. So Liz Holzman last week the national archives released documents from the Watergate scandal, including new information relating to the indictment against president Richard Nixon the draft documents known as the Watergate roadmap show plans to charge Nixon with bribery conspiracy. Obstruction of Justice and obstruction of a cr-. Criminal investigation. Nixon was never charged with crimes though, a number of his aides were and someone to jail the documents were released after a lawsuit requested they'd be made public citing their relevance for special counsel Robert Muller, if he decides to issue a report to congress as part of the ongoing probe into whether the Trump campaign colluded with alleged Russian meddling in the two thousand sixteen election. So talk about you know, well, what this indictment was of Richard Nixon. Well, let's just make one point Richard Nixon was named by the grand jury as an unindicted co-conspirator. That is the only time that's ever happened in the history of the United States. So the grand jury wanted to indict Richard Nixon this wasn't a hypothetical draft indictment. The grand jury said we want to indict Richard Nixon. They were told by the special prosecutor, you can indicted sitting president I don't necessarily agree with that. And so as an alternative they issued this they charged him as being an unindicted co-conspirator. But yes, the the roadmap pointed to these were criminal charges that we're going to be made against the president of the United States. And the supporting evidence impeachment is not a criminal proceeding impeachment is a civil proceeding by congress to preserve and restore our democracy doesn't require criminal standard of proof. It doesn't require any of the trappings of a criminal proceeding. What its purposes is to take a president who is a threat to democracy. And remove that president from office. That's what the framers put impeachment into the constitution for. And that's why the House Judiciary committee voted to impeach Richard Nixon in part because he obstructed the investigation into the break into the Watergate hotel complex, the Democratic National Committee headquarters and Donald Trump has done has tried to interfere with this investigation. He hasn't succeeded in in derailing, it he hasn't succeeded in stopping it. But he's put Whitaker. They're clearly the appearances to shut it down. And what does that mean? What if Whitaker shut it down or starved at a funds? What does Muller need to have in place now, and what would happen if he were fired could the indictments be made public? If there are some already sealed. Well, it's a very interesting question as to what would happen. I think we would have a national crisis. First of all if the American people. At that point don't rise up to protect our democracy. Then maybe nothing can preserve it. Because that's what happened in Watergate. The American people force congress Democrats who are in control Republican president. But the Democrats didn't wanna bring impeachment proceedings, Eric and people force them to do that. That's the critical point. Why didn't they because they were in a way? I mean, this is a very critical issue. I mean, Nancy Pelosi who said she's gonna write for house speaker Guinness famously said impeachment is off the table because it's an unknown process because the first time the congress ever did an impeachment of the president was against Andrew Johnson. And that was done in a partisan way. And it left a historical taint. We did the Nixon impeachment process. We did it in a bipartisan way, we did it in a fair way that should have given the American people a sense at this process works to preserve democracy. But then we had the Clinton impeachment which was again abusive power as as Andrew Johnson impeachment was, but the issue is the I I don't really I wasn't privy to why the speaker of the house and the majority leader Dempo Democrats did not want to proceed with impeachment proceedings until. The Saturday night massacre. I think it's because they just didn't know what was going to happen. The preceding itself was you know, had bad taint, historically, and they didn't have the public was gonna react. No, really take down president, Richard Nixon. Unlike Trump who squeaked through as in his election. Richard Nixon was elected with one of the biggest landslides in American history one thousand nine hundred ninety two nine hundred seventy two so for an impeachment to take place you'd have to change the minds of a majority of American voters, Democrats were sure that could ever happen. So they were worried about the political consequences for themselves instead of thinking about the country. But the American people demanded they said, congress you've got to protect our democracy, and congress did we didn't take knows camp before we started. We didn't even know what when I I remember we started the impeachment proceedings. Nobody even knew at a high crime and misdemeanor as what's the standard for impeachment. None of us had studied this. What happened in the end, why Nixon left Richard Nixon left because the House Judiciary committee proceeding in a nickel? Fair transparent open and bipartisan fashion voted that. He engaged in impeachable offenses, and ultimately every single Republican on the committee, initially when we voted there about eleven twelve Republicans who'd enjoin we had seven or eight who did. They when when there was a tape recording that was released that showed Nixon himself orchestrating the cover up from the very beginning. All the Republicans joined with all the Democrats and saying Richard Nixon should be impeached, including the most conservative at that point the handwriting was on the wall. It was cleared every single member of the House Judiciary committee, including conservative Republicans and conservative southern Democrats supported impeachment. The house is going to support impeachment overwhelmingly, and he would be removed vote convicted in the Senate and removed and he saw the handwriting on the wall. He didn't want that humiliation. It was bad enough that he had to resign became the first American president to resign. But it was because the process was fair open and won the respect of the American people many of home. Most of whom it's supported Richard Nixon in the election just a year and a half before. So it can be done. So Richard Nixon resigned and didn't get impeached. No. There was a vote to impeach in the House Judiciary committee. That was enough for Richard Nixon to get the message. He had to get out because otherwise he'd be forcibly removed by the house full house and the Senate. Well, let's go back to two sessions replacement. Matthew, Whitaker
"bork" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Brennan. Them have been against his now current teammates to against Nikitas adore of and against Matt Calvert. Last night. Against Sam Bennett was after a hit. Mark jankowski. Here's a shot from the boy never made it towards group. Our the rebound has put home. Got lost and traffic and the first person to find it was Loui Eriksson. He got to the park fired it past Philip group. Our and once again. For the third time tonight. The Vancouver Canucks had the lead back. The shot came from the point it hits somebody a pie and it fell right for Loui. Eriksson Philip group. Our couldn't really pick it out of traffic. Face off was two hours left. Mckenna. Lost the draw. Nice. Win by Vancouver and hit gave Landis Gog up high and fell right for Loui, Eriksson Landis blocked at almost with his face fell. Right for Ericsson any puts it home. And that is his first goal of the season Erickson from good Branson and Brendan guns continues to have points. What are the main Kubrick inox, here's Soderbergh behind his own cage backhands at fort Gabriel Bork escapes, but Patterson intercepts for Vancouver ten fifty three to go in the second. It's three to Knox ads. Take it away though inside Vancouver territory. Gabriel board spinning away. Download for Jake rare. Now, Carl Soderberg Soderbergh backhand, dry Puckett loose inside the blue paint. But it's finally covered up by Mark Trump. Some pushing and shoving atop the grease instigated by Gabriel Bork bail, separate go to separate ways. And we'll get a paint shop to the right of barks room with ten forty one to go here in period, number two. Not a lot of saves in this one. Twelve shots for the ads. Ten saves remarks. Trim eleven shots for Vancouver. Eight saves for Philip grew Bowery comes into this one tonight three and one. All but one start have been away from Pepsi center in downtown Denver, Colorado. Mika renton. Mentioned earlier now has a league-leading twenty two points. Off one by the absence of the Vancouver Zalmay get right back to gone San now. Here comes Derek Louis on four Vancouver. Aren't aims. Fires decide by. Door group. Our and the ads will take it away. Here's Alexander Kirkwood. It's a red line chips at downbeat Jamestown by Colin Wilson. Is on scene for Vancouver there long? With brendan. God's pass is four tried to pick out dry Stecher Brooklyn. Stick on the ice statue still has it. It's locked gates and finally mammoth who's able to get it out to center and a safety that lines, but not there long time. We'll make a recipe change and here come the Detrick on the point throws it on tip by Ericsson and the way bounded behind the net. Ericsson almost added a second goal. In about three and a half minutes. Renton way now for the past for Nathan MacKinnon never made it there. Brandon tries to get it back in front of Vancouver bench. But here they come. It's our bond with a shot. That's deflected up at the screen, and we'll take a timeout ton of.
"bork" Discussed on Blamestorming
"He's he's a very much follow politics fucking great, but of a southern dandy if you will, and he loves to bring him back dandy, he's very feminine and a lot of people believe that he secretly gave, but he's Republican and up until now. He was kind of like one of the Republicans. He was not one of these Trump zombies, and now he's going, he's full Trump. He's going full emotion trying to like win people over because some people think he wants to get the attorney general job when Jeff Sessions leaves, and he thinks this is he's gonna get it. Yeah. And even with the calendar like, so there's a date in Brett's calendar. I think it's July the first and people believe that this might be the date that Christine Ford is talking about where Mark judges, they're squeezed there and a, they're having skis, which is Bruce skis. And there's other guys that he wrote in the calendar. But like the Republicans are trying to say that like this couldn't possibly be the party that she's referring to because she didn't mention these other guys names, but as possible. Those guys could have arrived at the party after she had escaped it's thirty five years ago and it's like, you're not going to remember who drove you there. You're not gonna remember who left, but you're gonna remember the most traumatic moment of your life. I mean, I know somebody made a very good point about it's like, you know what? We don't question when a guy says, thirty five years ago, a priest touched me, right? Nobody thinks that guy's just trying to get attention. Yeah. So what's the difference? Is there any difference behind you? Put it perfectly when you said what this trial is going to come down to his is if you can also want accountable for something that happened, you know when he was that young when he's, you know, it's that far behind him and he's trying. Yeah, because Republicans, I think that's great. I haven't heard anyone put it that way. And I, that's the perfect way to look at it. It's like, look, whatever happened like people do terrible things when their kids in no way condone. Owning if he did it, you know that it was okay, but it's like, that's what drives me nuts. Like how far back they're going for this. But then again, you just said at that Bork guy, it's amazing what people will like back then the weed thing. I'm sure a lot of link. It was we's eighties. Yeah. Well it, yeah, if the debate is, should we hold people accountable for what they didn't high school then have the debates start there. Don't say that she's lying. Don't say that she'd that she's mistaken identity for someone else say that they might have had a sexual encounter that that's that's kind of what not what I'm saying. But that's kind of that's kind of a better. It's like when you're trying to prove an argument like this is the better argument to prove. It's like it's like it's like in football. When you want to review a play, you're like, are you reviewing if it was a catcher of your viewing? If it went out of bounds and you pick the better of the two and you're like, look, I don't. We need to realize even if he is found guilty of covering her mouth like idiot, seventeen year old. You know, he hasn't. He's he's a grown man with a family, and he hasn't done terrible things since. I know that sounds terrible, but that's. Another way to look at it. It's like. Donahue, able kids, and I agree shale. No fact they've already said and correct me if I'm wrong. The people in the state we're having. This isn't a punishable offense right now. There's no way we would have enough evidence or even if we could to to convict foot. Again, the standard isn't conviction. Now it's the shooting. Does he that now? Should it be a municipal court is like being president, it's a very different stance. I almost feel that you have more power being the supreme court than you do as president because it's a lifetime appointment and you are able to affect change for a longer period and we already have one sexual creep on the on the bench already Clarence House..
"bork" Discussed on Blamestorming
"It doesn't change with this. You're allowed to fuck people as hard as you can with information when you're when you're working on the courts when you were the high levels, anyone books, everybody I couldn't agree more. Robert Bork was the term Bork refers to finding something, whatever you can screw somebody out of out of the office specifically the supreme court or heard this Robert Bork was in the eighties. He was supposed. Supreme court Justice, and they brought up that he smoked pot. They brought up all this shit and have ridiculous eight want him to be a supreme court Justice. The problem was the reason they did that is because he would four reasons that you could not bar him for be a horrible or Justice to major reasons. Number one, he was the guy that Richard Nixon got fire. Everybody of the Saturday night massacre he was the one guy willing to Nixon's bidding when he knew it wasn't really legally appropriate. Number two. This is a guy who went around a hardcore conservative who run around believing in the idea of community standards from reality where he said that every community should have the right to make any laws. They want about personal conduct because that because it has to do with the standards of the community and he was using it, of course, he wanted to make. He was endorsing the idea of making illegal to have just gay sex in and of itself, or even, you know, sodomy blowjobs all that stuff. So he was kind of a lunatic and they're like, well, we can't go to them for that, but he smoked pot once in that. And it's so funny. I mean, from what you're saying, thank God. They didn't know he was, but that's what he got. That's what he got banned for smoking, like they got high, oh my God, how much of times chain and all the Democrats were basically like, well, we wouldn't have brought this up. If you know, we didn't hate you this much. But I mean, I think someone should be able to be on the supreme quarter they smoked, but I didn't think that someone to be on the supreme court. If they did the other stuff, Cavanaugh said like, you know, whipping his dick out at parties and and that walks is drunk. That's not what we're here about the moment. He put his any if he had said he, he snapped my bra. He ripped my towel offer something. It's the fact that they said he put his hand over mouth to stop from screaming and she thought she was going to suffocate. That's a step. I think most vast majority of men hopefully don't take. And that's the when you get to the point where like, oh, that sounds like a guy who did more than just that in his day. Well, I also kind of feel like if if he did do that, then numbers would say that he's done that before. He's done more than that because this is just the one that got away and a lot of people don't come forward when these things happened. I don't know. I feel like I, I believe Ford. I believe that he doesn't remember because it wasn't remarkable to him probably when he did it, put it, you know, so that her met have been her. Yeah. Because like I mean, if you're drinking to the point of blacking out, like e, you don't remember the shit that you do like when I was in college, like I had a whole group of like drinking friends from other schools that I did not know. But then on a weekend, they'd like come to my school or call me or whatever. And I'd go hang out with them. And like I was like, oh, these are my friends. And then it'd be like, who are always messages from like, who is this list note from? And I'm just like, and I literally had like a group of just like total drinking friends that I did not cool kids like, you know, I did not really socialize with or even remember really what if you're an officer of the court and someone makes this very credible accusation and there is no axe to grind in this scenario to not appreciate that. Then you have to be ass. Asked when you have to act indignant and when you're lying about all this other shit that it's to be, that's what someone who's lying does what Lindsay grant someone who's lying does if you're telling the truth, you say, look, I visit..
MLB -- New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox set for showdown
"In baseball. If the bombers pull off an upset over the Boston, you bang in Harvard, having donkey buying L wives. I mean, the Red Sox it'll break hearts all over New England. The best kind of New York win. This is morning edition from NPR news. I'm Rachel Martin. And I'm Steve Inskeep. Let's recall a supreme court battle before the one we're living through now. Judge bread Kavanagh's. Contentious Senate hearing last week recalled some earlier ones, including a nineteen eighty-seven showdown between democratic senators and then federal appeals court judge Robert Bork who been nominated to the supreme court Senator Ted Kennedy led the attack in Robert Bork's, America. There is no room at the end for blacks and no place in the constitution for women and in our America. There
"bork" Discussed on Skullduggery
"He spoke about a Bork's role during Watergate. He was the guy who fired Archibald Cox when the attorney general Elliot Richardson and the deputy attorney general William Ruggles house would not do it and Kennedy made much of that that Bork's view. Borg's protection of Richard Nixon and his expansive views of executive power challenge the idea that a president was accountable to the law. And of course that's going to be a very central issue that Brad Kavanagh is going to have to address a given is expansive views of executive power and the context of this confirmation fight coming during a period that I'll Trump is still under criminal investigation by both a special counsel, Robert Muller on the Russia matter and the prosecutors in the southern district of New York. I really. I mean, I will say that to continue the parallel of why this one is not getting everybody all exercise. I don't think that Bork's role in the Saturday night massacre ended up playing much of a role in the battle. Right? I mean, it was one of those things. I say, you look for everything you could use against him. I mean the Kennedy and and. Allies to everything up against the wall. It wasn't really what stuck. In this case, it's a little different because of what you just said about the president being under investigation. That was not the case, of course with Reagan or at that moment. But I think it's a less sexy issue except now. But again, there's just not a chance. I'm absent some major flop by camera. Right, right on, right. You're probably right, but certainly the echoes of the book battle and Ted Kennedy's vivid rhetoric hangover and are something to be remembered as we as we watch these confirmation fights confirmation fight over Brad Kavanagh, Ethan, Bronner sang select for joining us on buried treasure. It's a, it was a great pleasure both. You and Dan and Mike, thank you guys so much. That's the block. Thanks. And by the way, the. A book battle for Justice. I've got a dog eared heavily on the line somewhere I studied at closely. It's a terrific book. You know what? And everyone should remember. Really appreciate your saying thanks to Ethan Bronner for joining us on this episode of very treasure. Don't forget you subscribe to skulduggery on apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts and tell us what you think review. We'll talk to you on Friday..
"bork" Discussed on Skullduggery
"And to this day they make no apology for the speech. But the idea that Robert Bork personally wanted back alley abortions. I think in fact that that worked, especially as he got older in fact, did oppose much of legal abortion, but you know this. So in in, I think he certainly would have been an elephant, certainly voted to overturn Roe versus Wade. Had he sat on the court, you know, overturning had he publicly had public? Yes, absolutely. He, he thought, well, he thought rose a terrible decision. Then I don't think that he's spoke about his opposition to abortion, but the ultimately converted to Catholicism. And I think did a personally oppose abortion. Yes. So that that is defensible. You would say, well, it is mainly defense. I mean, I think that look, I, I mean, you know, this is it. We don't want to spend too much time on each one of things. But I would say that the fact that someone thinks that Roe versus Wade is a bad decision at that. Abortion is a bad thing. It does not necessarily mean that he favors Dr Elliot abortions, right? I mean, in other words, he might the way way abortion would be litigated in this country. Legislative would be state by state, and I don't know that board personally would have opposed that they'd be half. The states would be legal, but certainly what what he, what if you, what you want to say is putting him on the court will make abortion harder to get and and increase the risk of back LA bushes. I think that that quite is defensible. So should we move onto. The next one yet blouse. Segregated lunch counters. Okay. So this is a really interesting one that has this has to do with fork in the mid sixties having written a piece for the new Republic in which he said that the public accommodations law which required restaurateurs and others to serve non whites or serve anyone. They didn't want to serve was violation of individual rights and was inappropriate. This was a huge thing when he wrote it. In fact, unusually the editors of the new Republic gave their response to his peace and saying, we think he's wrong. And in addition, it's fair to say, it's important to say that later worked said, you know what? I'm not sure I was really right about it. I'm just kinda worked out and I was kind of engaged in an intellectual exercise about what the law means and this and that and that, you know if we just stop for a second parenthetically in a way is what did work in. Is that he, it seemed, I think, in the hearings and generally that this notion of an intellectual feast of sort of seeing where the law goes that it seems like he didn't really get that. It really did affect a lot of people in ways that he wasn't willing to think too hard about and that did amend, Ethan. Let's talk about that. Let's let's talk about for one minute because there are a lot of people who think that that actually was the maybe the key turning points in the confirmation hearing, when how have you been democrat from Alabama and a former chief Justice of the Alabama supreme court essentially asked him, why do you want to be a Justice and he and it was at that point when he talked about the law being an intellectual, which made him look like an elitist who was at a touch who really had no, no real feelings for you know, the little. That's right. I just wanted to just one more on the dissecting that school children could not. Taught evolution. So I'm not exactly. I think the idea is I can't quite remember what that's based on must be based on a, you know, he was. He was somebody who felt that the separation of church and state wall that had begun to be erected by the Warren court and onward was overdone that it was more important that that you know the originalist interpretation of this country. Constitutional history is that religion should have a greater place in public life than had been allowed. I think that's about as far as we can go with that. I mean, you know, well, let me ask you actually, let's see one more because you talked about fascism before. One of the lines was rogue police could break down citizens doors in midnight raids, and my recollection is that he was opposed to..
"bork" Discussed on 600 WREC
"Glenn beck to the program all right i wanna i wanna start with bork now robert bork is a guy i remember this is nineteen eightyeight so i'm twenty four years old and i remember i'm i'm driving across country because i'm going to my job in phoenix arizona and i'm driving from ohio to phoenix and the bork hearings are on and i listened to it all week is driving and i just remember thinking this is incredible listen to how ted kennedy talked about bork before the hearing even started see if it sounds familiar robert bork's america is a land of which women would be forced into back alley abortions blacks which set at segregated lunch counters rogue police could break down citizens doors and midnight raids and schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution right as an artist would be censored at the whim of government and the doors of the federal courts would be shot on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is and is often the only protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy america is a better and freer nation then robert bork thanks yet in the current delicate balance of the supreme court is rigid ideology will tip the scales of justice against the kind of country america is and ought to be the damage that president reagan will do through this nomination if it is not rejected by the senate could live on far beyond the end of his presidential term president reagan is still our president but he should not be able to reach out from the muck of marine gaetan reach into the muck of watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the constitution on the supreme court and on the next generation of americans all right no justice would be better than this injustice okay all right so it's an injustice have we heard all of that again the use the same speech every time now they have up the ante a little bit now you know millions of people are gonna die it's not just that he's going to reach beyond the term millions are going to die and i'll give you the evidence of that here in just a second when bork is being questioned he's been he's being questioned by great senator now from the south and listen to him not enough time you have to listen to how he's question and then we'll compare and contrast probably the most radical judicial appointment maybe of all time ginsburg i didn't remember the ginsburg trial do you remember that her hearings no not really know how is that possible first of all the republicans didn't make a big deal out of yes there was no wait until you hear wait until you hear how ginsburg was handled there's an issue there's a real issue here between the two doesn't get any more left wing radical than ruth bader ginsburg no she's the hero even believe in using a us constitution as a basis for her judgements correct that's that's grounds for impeachment right there above a supreme not if you're not if you're a progressive because you want the court just the reason why fdr wanted the court he wanted the court packed with a bunch of people who had his opinion that would allow the the government to do whatever it is it had to do to right the wrongs of the past which is not what the government is supposed to do the government the government was established to protect the rights of all that's what it's about and that's what the constitution and the bill of rights actually protects and those guardians those nine men and women are supposed to stand as sentinels at those gates and not let anything harm those rights for anybody i'll show you what they did with ginsburg we'll get a little bit more bork and then i'll show you what they're doing now with cavanaugh when we come back.
"bork" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA
"South tampa on fm one zero two point nine fm glenn beck welcome to the program all right i wanna i wanna start with bork now robert bork is a guy i remember this is nineteen eightyeight and so i'm twenty four years old and i remember i'm i'm driving across country because i'm going to my job in phoenix arizona and driving from ohio to phoenix and the bork hearings are on and i listened to it all week is i'm driving and i just remember thinking this is incredible listen to how ted kennedy talked about bork before the hearing even started see if it sounds familiar robert bork's america is a land of which women would be forced into back alley abortions blacks which set at segregated lunch counters rogue police could break down citizens doors and midnight raids and schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution writers and artists would be censored at the whim of government and the doors of the federal courts would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the tradition is and is often the only protector of the individual rights that are the heart of our democracy america is a better and freer nation then robert bork thanks yet in the current delicate balance of the supreme court is rigid ideology will tip the scales of justice against the kind of country america is and ought to be the damage that president reagan will do through this nominee nation if it is not rejected by the senate could live on far beyond the end of his presidential term president reagan is still our president but he should not be able to reach out from the mark moran irangate reach into the muck of watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the constitution on the supreme court and on the next generation of americans all right no justice would be better than this injustice okay all right so it's an injustice have we heard all of that again the use the same speech every time now they have upped the ante a little bit now you know millions of people are going to die it's not just that he's going to reach beyond the term millions are going to die and i'll give you the evidence of that here in just a second when burke is being questioned he's been he's being questioned by great senator now from the south and and listen to him not enough time you have to listen to how he's question and then we'll compare and contrast probably the most radical judicial appointment maybe of all time ginsburg i didn't remember the ginsburg trial do you remember that her hearings no not really now how is that possible first of all the republicans didn't make a big deal out of yes there was no wait until you hear wait until you hear how ginsburg was handled there's an issue there's a real issue here between the two doesn't get any more left wing radical then ruth bader ginsburg no she's the hearing even believe in using a us constitution as a basis for her judgements correct that's that's grounds for impeachment right there not if you're not if you're progressive because you want the court just the reason why fdr wanted the court he wanted the court packed with a bunch of people who had his opinion that would allow the government to do whatever it is it had to do to right the wrongs of the past which is not what the government is supposed to do the government the government was established to protect the rights of all that's what it's about and that's what the constitution and the bill of rights actually protects and those guardians those nine men and women are supposed to stand as sentinels at those gates and not let anything harm those rights for anybody i'll show you what they did with ginsberg we'll get a little bit more work and then i'll show you what they're doing now with cavenaugh when we come back.
"bork" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"Was widely misinterpreted misunderstood to indicate that bork had a huge vanity problem that he was arrogant and condescending and that he didn't he didn't have respect for the senators who were conducting the confirmation hearings and that coupled with ted kennedy and the fact that there was no defense in the reagan administration had very little bork went down in flames and a really there was a privacy case that that that got too in the weeds on all he would have had to say we fully expected that the right to perhaps you got into that there is no right to privacy competition senator and of course there isn't it's implied in the fourth amendment but it's not stated a direct right to privacy is not stated everybody thinks they have one so bored got in the weeds with him on that and this was about contraception case in income etiquette and it wasn't long before it was over and then ginsburg was nominated to replace them and it was learned that he had smoked a little like the weed he was gone and that's how we ended up with justice kennedy well now it's all different now they're gonna go after any trump nominee they tried going after gorsuch but but but schumer blundered big time on gorsuch by pulling the nuclear option he should have realized that gorsuch was gonna get confirmed gorsuch didn't change the balance of power quote unquote but they were flexing their muscles the democrats were and they wanted to try to stop gorsuch justice for trump and now schumer has shot a lot of his ammo and he doesn't have it to us anymore so they're gonna try character assassination but the big equalizer is going to be trump trump is gonna defend his nominee trump is going to be attacking the people at attack whoever the nominee is and the callers right if he nominates amy barrett or any other woman and these people chuck schumer and left and always advocacy groups that they go after her you can count on the fact that trump is going to be pointing out on twitter and everywhere he can what a bunch of hypocrites and worse these people are because she checks off if it's amy barrett she checks off every box feminists have claimed women should be every box she's accomplished more than most people ever will of their lives and has seven kids that blows their minds i gotta take a break a little long we'll be back after the way the center of the radio universe rush we newsradio twelve hundred there.
"bork" Discussed on WTVN
"The decision as it relates to healthcare but there's gonna be a fight now there's going to be a fight we don't use the term bork for no reason at all now robert bork's america is a land of women would be forced into back alley abortions blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters rogue police breakdown citizens doors midnight raids and schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution right is an artist there'd be censored at the whim of government yeah remember that all of what kennedy said was not true and then robert bork you know his big mistake is he actually wrote about judicial philosophy and wrote ideas and then kennedy smeared the chappaquiddick kennedy the guy that left mary jo kopechne e at the bottom of the chappaquiddick river when he drove the car off the bridge and he went home that night and told nobody back kennedy that got away with all of that said all of that about robert bork remember i'll never forget you know clarence thomas having to defend his name in honor and the absolute viciousness of of attacks against him this is a circus so national disgrace it is a high tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves and it is a message that unless you cow town an old order you will be lynched destroyed caricatured a committee of the us us senate rather than hung from a tree one of the most powerful moments of testimony i can recall in my lifetime and one of the most vicious vile unfair attacks against any one individual and and justice thomas's case because he happened to be a an african american that was a conservative it was vicious if you've never read his book my grandfather's son read about his life and his background and you're gonna find one of the most amazing american stories you'll ever read it's an incredible story is incredible man probably has the funniest laugh i've ever heard in my life to on top of everything listen i want to remind you wanna look your best you don't want to go for surgery right well i want to remind you of our friends at shamanee and jen you sell you got to try genucell let's say you wake up in the morning your bags puffiness under your eyes well guess what chamonix will fix that for you.
"bork" Discussed on Abe Lincoln's Top Hat
"And a great weekend all right all right this is fox news talk i'm ben kissel we'll take a quick break and come right back unbelievable christine there's no bieber rule i i didn't get the memo anytime i could play peeves rand paul say you're sorry of my goodness he hasn't said he's sorry yet before we move let's just wrap it up here with rich lowery's article he's saying don't bork geeta hassle he writes this for politico he says president donald trump's pick for cia director is about to experience a good borking i'm not sure if he's trying to be punny here no i don't think i don't it's rich he's such a nice innocent guy i don't know maybe he is don't you bore bore a bore car don't border of course bork is now used as a verb it's a nine hundred eighty seven this fellow obviously robert bork was he was rejected for the supreme court and some reasons why they said that his judicial full full philosophy was inconsistent and pointed to this famous statement that he wants made about how going on the supreme court would be quote in in intellectual feast so they said he's not allowed on and forever and ever and ever bork is now averbukh so rich lowry saying don't bork gina hassle no one he goes on to say no one doubts her professionalism barack obama cia director leon panetta told cnn she's a good officer who really knows the cia inside out she has the endorsement of obama's director of national intelligence james clapper and of mike moral who served as acting director of the c i twice under obama if i have to make a prediction i think all three of them will end up getting through of course mike pence the tiebreaker vicepresident might have to break another tie but i do believe when push comes to shove she will end up getting that position but we'll have to wait and see all right everyone i am ben kissel this is fox news.
"bork" Discussed on Abe Lincoln's Top Hat
"About raving reviews for rich lowering he has an article out here in politico and it says don't bork gina hassle of course a reference to what happened to wanna be supreme court justice robert bork don't bork gina hassle this is rand paul talking about why he doesn't believe gina hassle is qualified to head the cia and of course he's gonna tied into her sort of having a powerful position in these socalled black sites this was taking place in thailand these are all over the place i mean heck we have some in chicago by the way there's a great documentary in the black sites in chicago nothing to do with terrorism that's just a corrupt police force in some somewhat but this is rand paul talking here i find it just amazing that anyone would consider having this woman at the head of the cia and so my opposition to her is over her direct participation in interrogations and her gleeful enjoyment at the suffering of someone being tortured all right this is going back to what rand paul wrote he says according to publish reports gina hassle who president trump wants to become the next cia director ran one of the cia is notorious black sites in thailand where she was in charge of an operation that waterboarded prisoner abu zubaydah i'm sure that butchering that name i apologized for everyone let's just go without the we'll call him up that's right christine thank you sir christine producer krisztian.
"bork" Discussed on WTVN
"In line to jewish judge robert bork feud judge awards roberts warren court nominee so in a facetoface meeting um bork agrees with the present all go do this and so bork's senna a written order to cox that evening to cox is hallman and he was out it's so this became the known as the saturday massacre the the question is are are these heads rolling right now are we kind seeing this sort of ain't massacre in slow motion um what what really i think raised a firestorm in in the watergate was when they put crime tape around the agee's office and around crime tape they put that around um cox's office to make it look like crime scene they put up video and it was alexander hague's idea to do this and get it out there that that we're preserving um the evidence you know in the people with the reaction was prolific that it look like um the gestapo was marching in and shutting down investigation of one of its out my question to you eric is are we heading that same way i think were heading in the direction of uh will add neil feels were heading towards a constitutional crisis i think we've already had a constitutional crisis here we have uh compelling evidence admitted evidence that the people who were in charge of the nation's premier criminal investigatory service lied to federal judges in order to get warrants to spy on somebody who is involved in a presidential campaign for a major party is not is one thing is bad enough that you would lie to a judge to get a warrant to monitor a drug dealer or to monitor is somebody who suspected of murder but during a campaign to lie to a judge over and over and over again they went at least there were at least three four reviews every ninety days got every ninety days that the the fis warned expires and has to be renewed and time and time and time again and only the top people in the fbi are allowed to sign off on these things and actually asked for the permit to ask for the warrant and over and over and over again they did not tell the fis the judges.
"bork" Discussed on BizTalk Radio
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"bork" Discussed on WLS-AM 890
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