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Welcome to the news. And why it matters little Friday show here come back on Monday. We're gonna have the whole crew back Glenn will be back surrogates. Also, it'll be lots of fun. Hopefully, Jason won't be back. I'm so it'll be a great show. Joining me, of course, Pat gray and Jason but'real. Thank you guys. What's your top story pack, the wall border wall? Will it be built or won't be? It's going to be fine pet. Be great Shelby Bill. I think they're good build more wall than there is borders. Yeah. I like that. Okay. Jason Dallas Cowboys will advance to the next round of the playoffs after tomorrow evening that will will be the biggest story I used to be fun Monday. I'm really I mean, I'm looking forward to a Cowboys eagles NFC championship. Oh. Say I don't think you can have either happen. But I was still be thought were the workplace might not be safe that. I know my story is a spy games only with fake spies. And I gonna go the electoral college, they want to change this already Democrats. This is a big priority for Democrats. And there's some reason to believe they could actually get it done the first start with Pat. Well, the border wall in in the beginning was going to be built across the whole border. I mean, that's the way it was kind of sold. Wasn't it the entire border entire border? We need the wall. This is longtime coming we're going to build it, whatever it takes and Mexico's gonna pay for it. Then it became oh. I mean, there's a lot of terrain and rivers and the dirt in the way. So we can build all, but we're going to build a lot of it. Then it was you know, maybe half. And then it was maybe a third I don't know lake now, it's a block and a half or so we're not really going to build anything new. We're going to fix some of the, you know, we're gonna mend and we're going to shore up some of the stuff that has already they're going to pay for it. And the Mexico's gonna pay. Well, no, okay. The US MC a trade deal will pay for this. No. It's not in operation yet. And be that's not what we were promised. So anyway. Trump actually backed off his pledge when this whole. Shut down the government thing happened. And then he got firm again. And so now, the Democrats have dug in and the president is dug in and some somebody's going to have to cave in over. This isn't going to be the Democrats. I don't think so because they think they have the American people on their side. And according to polls, I guess they kind of do I think it's a question of pain tolerance. Really? I mean, how long before you cave in our, but right, and I still we were talking about this on radio earlier in. I don't know like I don't think Trump can cave on this. He's he's already tested the waters when he backtracked. What was that what a month ago or so ago, and then there's just a huge backlash and he had to reverses because he was already backing off. And he was he was already getting that statement to say, well, yeah, it is like Lindsey Graham said it's a metaphor. And which actually come to think of it's easier to get Mexico to pay for a metaphor a lot cheaper, physical walls. But he, but he saw that. Okay. Yeah. We also know let's address that it was not a metaphor. Now. It was an actual physical structure between us and Mexico. Did he actually describe in detail the height thirty feet? He said, it's a forty a couple times mostly thirty feet. And he said it was concrete. They went through all the details. And then they built they built the first prototype. Actually. I mean, we we saw what he thought it was going to look like. And now, we're like we'll actually slats steel slats slats aren't really a wall. No. I mean, let my definition. There are some things that could make them more effective like, for example, you can actually look through on the other side. There's some reasons to think that that would be a good option. It's just not what was promised. And we all know that. Although we certainly, I know Pat, and I for sure because we promised we would eat our underwear if it was actually built that never certainly never believe Mexico's paying for it. But never believe the wall was actually coming. I mean, I I don't know if he can it's such a low expectation for Washington. In general, you to you know, that I never believed. This is hilarious this five billion dollars. Which none no party would even blink it for something else. Oh, you want to build a crazy like loop de loop tunnel underneath the New York. It's gonna cost twenty billion for gerbils for Joe bills. Only gerbils. Gerbils mice gerbils we can get that done. It's gonna cost twenty billion. But who cares for the gerbils five billion for security? They won't even consider it. And this is why I think the Democrats are in the in a position that they absolutely adore right now because they know the only reason you're right five billion dollars. Who cares? It doesn't mean anything, and they're not building the whole wall. Anyway, I mean, it will help in certain areas right where where this is. But generally speaking, it's not gonna make a huge impact on illegal immigration either. The thing that they love about it is they know how important it is to Trump so they can exploited that and they can exploit that and say, all right. We're going to sit back, and I'm going to sit back and do nothing. We're going to sit back and let you suffer until you give us whatever we want because you know. Trump has already said on the record. This is my shutdown. I will take responsibility for it. I want border security give it to me as you pointed out, Pat. The polls are not good on this issue nationally. It's a sixty to thirty seven opposed on wall. Only only I think at seventy nine sixteen among Republicans, but the other groups are complete disasters. So it's popular with the base, but not popular overall. So the Democrats can sit here and say, you know, what let me give you a nightly update on every news cast where we're going to show ten families who are not getting paid from their government jobs, and we're gonna say, it's your fault, and they're wanna play the video over and over and over again, if you saying it's your fault. And you know, they love this idea because you, and you know, what the money was never the issue for me when he said, Mexico is going to pay for New Mexico wasn't going to pay for it. But it was okay. Because as long as it gets built that's something that's worth doing. Yeah. Despite the cost it, let's say cost twenty billion who doesn't think it's worth our national. Security did shore up our border for twenty billion dollars. If it was thirty billion. I would do it and we should pay for it. But if you wanted Mexico to pay for it, there are ways that you could get that done by you could put a tax on all the money that sent back home from here to Mexico. You could raise the money easily that way, and then you can claim Mexico has paid for it. Instead, it's kind of we've kind of caved on that completely and the US MCA, which is the new trade agreement is almost identical to NAFTA, very almost the exact same thing. There were some Lor acronym. The yes, yes. I know. It's a it's a there are some improvements as far as modernizing trade which were necessary and would have happened. Anyway, there are some improvements in some bad things in there. But generally speaking, it's basically the deal, we're not we're not getting the walls not getting paid for by that thing. And as you point out, it's not even an action yet. I think when you look at this as like a step back, and you say, how do we know whether the Democrats believe they're in a good position, the easiest ways to quantify it this way, right now, Donald Trump is is floating to Democrats that he will give them DACA. The deferred action for children, whatever the heck it is. It's basically the dreamers the dreamers who have been here their children when they came over here. And all gosh, we got we got to help them. And it's the thing that Obama said he could not do without a law passed then did it anyway unconstitutionally, and then Trump has come in. And let it go for a long time threatened to get rid of it. But it's still in place with court. Rulings and stuff and in the middle. He's saying I'll give you the law. I'll give you the law. You take doc. We'll sort that one out forever. And you give me five billion dollars in wolf on the Democrats are saying, no that's not enough. We want more for your well-funded one year ago one year ago, that's in January of twenty eighteen the Democrats four Dhaka offered full border wall funding the entire thing done for Dhaka. Now, he's asking for only five billion dollars, which is like a quarter or less of the cost. And they're saying, no, that's how much they think. They're position has improved. And there is an argument out there that the biggest political mistake of Donald Trump's presidency is not taking that deal back then because he would have had the wall off the table. He wouldn't have to deal with it for the election. He could've said I mean, it's still wouldn't of the wall initially talked about, but it would have been a significant portion of it. It would have been something better than we're talking about right now, we still be eating our underwear. Let's be clear as we said, no. But it still would have been something significant his supporters could say he c- he delivered on that promise. And I don't know that the support is really would have cared about DACA. I think there's a real weird signal. You're sending an incentive to people if you're saying, hey, come over here, and you'll be excuse later on for being here illegally. That's not a good thing. And it's not what I thought was coming out of this administration game we played for decades. Yeah. That's hilarious. I if they would have floated this in the campaign that yeah, we'll accept DACA, you know, cod. They would've had worked. They would have gone the way of Rubio. And that's exactly who did who exactly who float and idea. Just like that was Marco Rubio who got destroyed for being weak on the border, Lindsey Graham same type of thing. It wasn't always the wall. It was sometimes other security measures, but they were absolutely in for that. And and Jeb Bush, Jeb Bush, the DACA thing was a big Jeb Bush pitch. It was a big Jeb Bush. Now, we're talking about giving it to them for what one tenth of the promised wall. The Democrats see that and realize we can wait this guy out. And once again, they're controlling the rhetoric there they've turned to this thing. And it seems to be a successful. It's immoral to build a wall. What it's immoral to build a wall. What are you? What are you even talking about? If you have a fence between your property, and your neighbors is that an immoral act. No, you're trying to keep order in the neighborhood. Right. You're trying to keep your kids from getting hit by cars. Keep your dogs inside the yard. There's a million reasons to build some security around where you live how much more important. It is is it for a sovereign nation of three hundred and twenty five million people to have some sort of protection. But but who on the right is making these arguments we are right now. No one is actually explaining anything. You can take one guy that say look all a wall does is show the people that want to come in the correct places where they can come in. That's really all you have to say all you need to do directs you to the door. I mean, your example on the house is like you can have you could have the best friend in the world. That's your neighbor that doesn't mean you're fence. He still wants to be protected. I'll give it to people who are making the argument. This is pretty interesting the national border patrol council president art del Cueto was on was at the briefing room talking with the president. Here's what he said. I just want to talk about some of those criminals at between just apprehend on a daily basis. We're talking about murderers, rapists, people that commit very serious crimes in this country is has been doing an amazing job in deporting a lot of these people back to their countries. Unfortunately, once we deport these people, these people will not stay in their country, these criminal aliens that have been released from jail that have been deported. We'll come right back into the United States. However, we had a physical barrier. It we had a wall. We will be able to stop that. And notably arc. Del Cueto is from Kazakhstan. I believe. Exorb- exorbitant clearly hates Hispanic hates Hispanics. Right. Big Hispanic heater as Hector Garza. Who I believe is we show. Here. I think he's Serbian. He's served. Sorry. I'm sorry. He's all the of the national border patrol council. Watch. It has nothing to do with political parties. You all going to ask yourself this question. If I come to your home. Do you want me to knock on the front door for do? You want me to climb through that window? We fully support the president and his efforts to secure our nation's borders. Just makes sense. Of course. Right. You know? Of course, we all know, this is dumb political issue. Again. The the Democrats basically supported this. Ten minutes ago. Yeah. It was eight years ago nine years ago Glenn sent me down to the border. I think couple of years ago to like see what was going on down there with a congressman Gohmert. And I totally feel you could feel it was very palpable. The border patrols frustration with it. Because there's really nothing they could do. There was nothing. They can do. So this is this is why it's so bad. And why you need the wall because all the people that are trying to cross illegally they crossover in the policy is in its so like overran. So you know, so taxed as they get processed by the border patrol. They get put in buses or vans. They get taken to a processing facility, whether then given a basically an order to appear in court at a certain date and time, but they can't put them anywhere. There's like nowhere for them to put them because there's way too many on the release. They're released released a family members. Or sometimes not even that just hey, make sure you make it back to the court. So you were trying to get in here to break the law. Now, we're going to follow the law and can come back here at a certain date and time. No, they're off to the winds. What do you want us to do? There's nothing we can do actually the state of Texas was really really good at this. And they understood that so the state of Texas is actually deployed their own deep officers. They posted them and they're actually on the rivers. So they're going back and forth, and he's like high speed boats in the moment, they see them attempting to try and cross the river. They turn them back. So then they can't then they haven't stepped on United States soil, and we we're not we're not we can't take them. It's just a disaster down there. All right back with more second. The two thousand sixteen election. I wrote this about the things I learned here's my observations for the election. Let me give you a number five. This is back in two thousand sixteen. I believe we posted this the day after the election. Do we have the texture for that? There. It is if the popular votes hold us. We know they did this will be the second time in five elections that Democrats have won the popular vote and lost. They're going to come after the electoral college and a lot of people on both sides will listen to them the argument for it is nuance and takes using your noodle. Not exactly America's strong suit at the moment. What show that I stand by completely? And it's looks like it's true. Now, we have today first day of democratic control one of the first things they had done of Incan introduced a Bill to overturn the electoral college. And while it seems like a crazy reached it's like one of those things where you're like changing the very fundamentals of elections. It's like one of those listen to sports radio and someone has a crazy football rule change. That's never going to happen. That's what it kind of feels like to me. The one reason that you do have a chance I think of it right now is that the only Republican supporter of getting rid of the electoral college that I've ever seen in my entire life is happens to be Donald Trump. And this is not one of those things where Donald Trump in two thousand. When he was running out this a Reform Party candidate said it he saying now he said after his win he won the electoral college, of course, and lost the popular vote though. And this is a valid point from him. If it was a popular vote contest, I would have gone after the popular vote that someone who was doing here, which is true and Hillary should have learned about that one. But he supports this. And I don't know that he could get a lot of Republicans on the side. But if the Democrats support it, and he can convince twenty loyalists in the Senate to come along with them. There's a chance that you could do something. Now, I don't know procedurally if you could actually overturn it by just passing a law, you may need to do more than that. I mean, this is a constitutional amendment. I would think so. But again, who cares about the constitution these days? It doesn't seem like anybody. Does maybe the supreme court would say that you had to do more. But they are coming after they want this. Because if you're a democrat, and you have to campaign all over I wa and you know, all all over Michigan. In Georgia, and you're bouncing all over the country. Here you go to Los Angeles. Did you basically set up camp? And you're and you're doing southern California just try to win as many votes at a southern California as you can they will their population of voters are all together and cities. So it's fantastic for them. They will know how to explain this. Well, and I think that's why they're going after if you want north and South Dakota to never matter again ever in a national election, get rid of the electoral college, and that's what will happen and the representatives of those states should be yelling at the top of their lungs right now because you will never see a presidential candidate in Fargo North Dakota ever again Helena, Montana. Never again, good luck this this. This scares the crap out of me it really does. Because this is how pop this is this what makes us different than than Europe. It really does. I mean over there, if you have some crazy communists, you know, or somebody like that that wants to like promise everybody, a bunch of free stuff, whatever, you know, get a small group of people that turns into several. Thousand than several million agree with you like over there. They have a chance of actually doing some damage over here. We don't like the founders built the system, quite frankly because they were scared to death of this. They were scared that the populism Alexis de Tocqueville wrote in democracy in America. He said he called it the tyranny of the majority and is exactly what he described. He said a small group of people that eventually convinced the masses that will then oppress the smaller people, I saw a smaller number of people. I saw right after the election was right before the inauguration. Of Donald Trump. The they got this Martin sheen a few other stars that came out. And they were actually quoting the federalist papers trying to say, do you? Remember that it was like, oh my gosh. It was like kind of like a very dramatic the more, you know, type video and they're like, yeah. This was the electoral college was supposed to be you know, it was made to protect us from demagogue. No, wasn't it. That's not. That's not at all what it was for. They were quoting a Hamilton Federal's papers. And I'd like to I remember because I just did this just happened to have this up. I did some research before. And I was reading through Madison's federalist number ten. And this is this is amazing. He's Madison was talking about governments that are under direct democracy. And he goes, those governments quote have have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property and general been a short and their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. They knew exactly where this road legion. Exactly. This is what we have been protected. From and now they're threatening to screw that up. That's why every chance I get when people call this a democracy. It's not a democracy. We've got to get that through people's heads. It's a Republic, and we had an assist from Prager university on this one. Actually, they had a video out about the electoral college. Here's a clip of the founders had no intention of creating a pure majority rule to moxie they knew from careful study of history. What most have forgotten today or never learned pure democracies? Do not work. They implode. Democracy has been colorfully described as to wolves in a lamb voting on what's for dinner in a pure democracy. Fair majorities can easily tyrannize the rest of the country. The founders wanted to avoid this at all costs. This is why we have three branches of government executive legislative and judicial it's why each state has two senators no matter what its population. But also. Different numbers of representatives based entirely on population. It's why it takes a super majority in congress and three quarters of the states to change the constitution. And it's why we have the electoral college. It's true. I mean, this is a big debate. I mean, the idea between representatives and two for state was a big it was a compromise. Right. I mean, they they were able to compromise to that. So that these small states don't get completely wiped off the map because millwood would care the cities would would run the policy they'd run everything. And that's not what they intended here watching that. It reminds me like I always think we put too much emphasis on who is elected president. Yes, I really don't care like our who a Kazu Cortez or whoever especially like like who cares? The way the system is built with the electoral college and went the three branches of government. It's supposed to not run. That's what no one gets and everyone trying to analyze it and say, this is how we do to make it more efficient. No, it's not supposed to be efficient. Like, I personally hate it. I hated the past few years when we control every single branch of government. And it was the party that I used to stand by which it's very difficult to do anymore. I don't like it. I don't want the government to be running lockstep. But even when it was set up to run lockstep together it still didn't run efficiently. We didn't get anything done. Right. That's the way it's supposed to be. Yes. It is supposed to be hard things done that because only who agree can get something done. And when it's easy you get really bad things pushed through very quickly like, whoa, wait. We ducked too late. Sorry. Take your time. Imagine a pure democracy after a shooting, right? After the they they put votes up there with massive gun control. You'd never get the rights back. Right. This is the why the Democrats try so hard to use emotion in these situations because they know if they can get people emotional for a longer a long enough period of time after a terrible tragedy. They can get these rights taken away or at least attempt to so far. They haven't been able to do it for long enough because the government is specifically designed to stop them from doing it. And the only time it didn't was ObamaCare and it completely kind of fascinates me. It's like crazy like that. You see the way it was done the way it was done. It's probably never going away. I don't know if they can. But a judge actually the supreme court judge actually rooting lefavor, which is insane. She's don't get me. Started on Roberts. All right. We're back in a second. Up next enjoy bonus overtime content from the news in wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber. Start your free trial at blaze, TV dot com. Homophobes? Kevin Hart was supposed to host the Oscars until people realize what a homophobe the homophobe is. I think you remember the story from a couple of weeks ago. And it was a we called it out at the time. It was ridiculous. Kevin Hart made a couple of I guess tasteless jokes patchy to already apologize for apologize for years and years and years ago had not been making these same types of jokes for years and years and years people went back and dug out his tweets, which if you're a celebrity, I don't know why you're not just leading your tweets passed a few months. I mean at this point, I don't know Twitter. Maybe she just delete it completely. So they found this. They brought it made it up into a big deal. I tried to ignore it. Then they demanded he apologized. The Oscars who are gonna he's going to host the Oscars. Demanded he apologize. He basically said I'm going to step down. And by the way, Al politics again, which was a weird way of handling it. But I mean, it was an incredible amount of pressure over like a forty eight hour period, and he gave into it. So it's interesting to see what's going on. It seems as if there is an effort afoot to get him back to hosting the Oscars. I think most people correctly thought that this was a ridiculous decision and to do this. There's only one way to do it, Pat. I think the cleansing waters. Yes. Ellen degeneres. Yeah. And he dunked into those cleansing waters yesterday. Which is a pretty amazing because you know, here you got a well-known Domo sexual woman, a lesbian, basically saying, hey, this guy's great. And he's not what you're saying. He is and he should host the Oscars. Yeah. Pretty amazing. We actually have the video of that watch. So I I called the academy today because I really want you to host the Oscars. I think than I was so excited when I heard that they asked you thought it was an amazing thing. I knew how important it was. And how it was dream. So I called them. I said cabins on. I have no idea if he wants to come back and host, but what are your thoughts? And they were like, oh my God. We want him to host. We feel like that. Maybe he misunderstood or it was handled wrong. Or maybe we said the wrong thing. But we want to host what whatever we can do. We would be thrilled. And he should. Just call Kevin Hart and say we want you to host like the I mean that doesn't seem plausible. Doesn't seem like, hey, we were caving in to pressure, and we didn't want the LGBTQ Q a two plus people down our necks. And and so they they were fine with him stepping aside. I think is what happened. Yeah. Although they never named a new host. No. And which makes me kind of think they thought something like this might happen. Or might be on the way Kevin Hart responded to Ellen in just after that back with this year's Oscar host, Kevin Hart. You have said a lot of amazing things you have put a lot of things on my mind. And I know our relationship stands so leaving here. I'm promise you, I'm evaluating this conversation. This is a conversation. I needed to have. I'm glad that I had it here. And I'm glad that it was as authentic and real Zaid could have hoped that it would be. So let me assess just just to in the space in and really thank you. And I will talk before anything else. Which I think he's going to. Yes. I think he's thinking he will be the Oscars host. I think you're right. And then they will have the sketch first of all of him making fun of himself. Yes. And then there will be the sketch of or not the sketch. But the moment where he says. But I want to say something serious for a minute, homophobia is wrong, and any blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we'll get the same old talking down to a spiel as we didn't know homophobia was so now what we need we I hope he takes it to because this is a perfect example. Because I thought this was the perfect example before for them to like, okay safe. Okay, fine. He did this. We're going to go ahead and let him host. And then they could've came out and said, this is what I hope he says now instead of the that rant. I hope he does this rant where he says. Look, we gotta stop condemning people to death, basically, everything they've said multiple years ago, people do change and we've got to stop looking at comedy comedy for crying out loud. We've got to stop looking at that as you're reading the dictionary or something like that, you're Cyclope DEA. It's comedy for crying out loud. It these the end right here. And there's gonna be the perfect example. I want them to be really cool season. Sorry and Louis C K our. Okay. Guess what? We're all hosted. Oscar's just it's it's such a, and again, I think we said this at the at the very beginning of this that if you if you really believe he was a homophobe. He does not admits that by the way, he just says like I was making I was going for cheap laughs. And I've changed my mind on that. Because I don't think it's the right way to do it. Which is you know, it's not him. He wasn't a homophobe at the time. But. If you think he's a homophobe think he's just terrible person. Well, if he goes ten years without doing any of that stuff, isn't this? The example of what you want you want someone to be to come along to your way of thinking. Instead now we punish people for coming along to your way of thinking if you're Richard Spencer you to stick to your white supremacy. Well, then, you know, you're on Twitter and you're having arguments, and that's it Kevin Hart seems to have come to the position they actually want him to have. And they still punish the guy. So I I'm completely behind this effort. He should he should be able to host the Oscars. It was ridiculous. When it got pulled in the first place, you guys agree with that. Okay. All right. It's a news. The white matters. It gets a lot better on Monday because Sarah's back and not doing my job a lot better than I. But doing it and Glenn joins us. Well, so it's there's some up down. We'll see in the. Thanks for listening to the news, white matters. We hope you enjoyed the podcast if you'd like to watch the program become a blaze TV subscriber. And start your free trial now at blaze, TV dot com.
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Great. It's here on the radio network for joining us triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And Pat unleashed on Twitter. Looks like the caravans still pouring up the continent to the United States starting in Central America. Yeah. Many caravans are on their way. But it, and it doesn't even matter. The discussion that Donald Trump is having right now with the nation with the world, they just they just keep coming anyway. Because the Democrats are showing that it's still okay, we're not gonna do anything about people coming here illegally. Still hasn't been turned any of the central Central American families minors anyone from Honduras or anywhere in Central America from getting together in these caravans with thousands and thousands of people in heading north. Border patrol agents apprehended twenty seven thousand five hundred eighteen family members in family units. That's just a unit of it. One seven thousand five hundred eighteen family units in December. Wow. So that could be four people people. Yeah. Think it'd be three, but it could be six or seven two could be eight. I don't know highest monthly total on record. And that figure has climbed steadily for five months, even as the president is is made it pretty clear, we're not gonna let you in. And the Democrats have made it equally clear, we aren't gonna let you in. Those caravan members most of whom tried to exercise their right to request asylum in the United States contributed to third straight month of more than sixty thousand migrants being detained at US ports and arrested in the vast stretches of the border in between. The Trump administration points to those numbers as proof that the situation along the border is at a crisis level, and it requires the border wall or fence or something between our countries. And then of course, he talked about that night before last the administration is also used the growing number of migrants to try to end asylum for victims of domestic abuse, gang violence and try to prevent migrants who enter the country illegally from applying for Silom. Both of those moves were blocked by federal courts, his decision to force all asylum seekers to remain in Mexico, while their cases are decided continues to be enforced, which I think good. We don't know that these people need asylum. Asylum is is a special declaration for certain circumstances that most of these people don't fit into. Yeah. They just know what to say when they cross. Yep. They know the magic words so the number trying to cross the border is still a little bit lower than it was in the early two thousands when agents routinely arrested more than one hundred thousand a month and a couple of times made two hundred thousand arrests per month. Democrats and other critics of the administration accused Trump of using the migrant caravan as a political tool to get the border wall. Well, I mean, please a political tool we've been trying to secure the border for sixty years seventy years eighty years. And they continue to say that he's manufacturing crisis. He's not manufacturing anything. This has been going on for a long time. And there've been a lot of people, including me you've been talking about it for a long time. It's just that. He's finally trying desperately to get something done on a permanent basis that will you know, mitigate the problem somewhat. It's not gonna solve every problem is not gonna cure the issue. It will help. Plus, there's you know, diseases pouring across the border border thorns or referring fifty people in day for urgent medical care. And it's not like they got a cold. So, you know, give him an aspirin and put him put him to bed for a day. They've got things like to Burke, yellow sus, flew, of course, pregnant women about to give birth. Now, who's decision was that that they're giving birth at the border Nikko incident. It just so happened that I mean, how take wait a minute. I came all this way. And I'm pregnant. Wow. How long does it take for that caravan couple months Mia? I mean who among us know pregnant seven months in. Not mean, you don't know you get to Mexico. I guess I'll just keep going now at first, you know, for the first seven months, you just think you're retaining water. I just got a little waterway gain in my belly. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. And if you call Planned Parenthood, you know, they'll just tell you that just broccoli Brockton. Nothing going on in there. Yeah. Keep on coming. You might you might be giving birth to some table where I don't know, you know, some utensils forks spoons maybe tonight for two stapler. Maybe you know, what could give birth is. This is this is smooth right to Pat gray unleashed coffee mug. Well, shop dot the blaze dot com, you'd be really fortunate. They did get a usually people have to go to shop the blaze dot com to buy these. But how gave birth to why they give birth to a t shirt. I mean, you wanna wash it obviously afterward but shop the blaze dot com. Just no way to know though. What's in there could be one of these you don't know? There's just no way to know. It's kinda like metric metric birth. No way to know could be a Volkswagen. I don't know what it is a Buick. What is it? Oh, man. So a staggering twenty eight percent of the people coming across sick are under the age of five they've been dragged along by their parents. And I I'm sorry. That's just responsible. It's just it's it's not our fault. Well, it's the Democrats fall encouraging them do it, really. It really is. But it's not America's fault. We didn't force anybody to come here for being awesome to awesome and everybody wants to come here. And I understand that that we've got a rule book. And we'd really appreciate it. If you would write and not just from the onset show us that you don't really care about what you say, you're running two and one of the things that have always have always been important is that you're not sick. When you come here because we don't want you to kill the rest of us. None of us want to berkey low ses or you know, a few years ago they were talking about. Leprosy coming across the border leprosy What is this eighty nine BC right now, we have and I'm sure it's not related whatsoever. But the rate of measles in America is high level in decades. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Just like that's all that is. Agents have spotted a new trend in the traffic from Central America to with smuggling organizations using commercial buses to get people through the journey in less than a week, which is far faster than the twenty five or thirty days. It takes most who walk or you know, they have a mixture of walking and jumping on some transportation from Guatemala, or at Salvador or undue witness. Equal to order. Can we please stop with the argument that or the or the the bullet point that the left is using Nate trek, so far they make this long journey by foot? Not know they're on the greyhound come on. And if they're coming by foot, that's not our fault either. We didn't tell them to we didn't tell you to walk here. In fact, our president the leader of the nation has said don't come don't come you won't be let in but and yet and yet. Again. It's it's one after another. Meanwhile, Alexandria of Qazi Cortes was unreal. Matthaeus show on MSNBC. We don't talk about MSNBC much anymore ever since CNN went. So crazy. Fill that void. They really. Really taking over where MSNBC left off. And they've actually taken the ball down the field from where MSNBC Fisher have they've made up from us time. So AOL sees thing is that people are fleeing the United States apparently to get away from Donald Trump. And then she went off on another tangent. Here's what she had a very personal story as as many people know, I was working in restaurants just a year ago. And when the president I assumed office with his with his racist, violent rhetoric. People started to send themselves home, and as we know in drop hospitality every American east. If you can if you're if you're if you're lucky enough, we're able to eat three times a day, and that means that we interact with the people who prepare our food three times a day when those people start to go home, local or rather go back to the countries, which they originated from because many of them consider the United States their home those play. They go into dysfunction. I remember one of our lead cooks breath back to Mexico because he was so scared of the president's rhetoric we had an insane amount of dysfunction. We're talking about local restaurants talking about local businesses. We're talking about a shuttering neighborhoods, and we're talking about people feeling unsafe no-one feel unsafe knighted of America. They should. Yes. They should. Unbelievable. More on of course, they should if they're here illegally. Yes. I'm sorry. They should you know, normally when you're arguing point making a case, you wanna leave with your strongest point looks like AFC is held back to the very end for her strongest point, which is don't you don't wanna feel unsafe in America. Nobody wants to feel safe if they're here illegally. Well, yes, you do. Yes. You should feel badly. If you broke our laws, and again, you're not just breaking the law of crossing the border illegally. Because once you're here, you're either attacks of evader or you've committed identity theft. But one of the two maybe both. So don't tell me you should feel completely safe and comfortable and welcome. When you broken our laws. Idiocy I was possible. And it's not like that woman's a congresswoman not making laws or anything like that. Agonizing. I mean, of course, you should feel uncomfortable. If you're like should American lawbreakers be completely comfortable in their lawbreaking should people who are citizens who have broken the law. Just relax. Nobody should be afraid. Nobody you shouldn't worry about having robbed that Bank. You should just be left alone. In every felon, every criminals should be granted amnesty of mmediately. So that they're not made to feel unsafe every single tax evader everybody who has cheated the IRS should just relax shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable in your tax evasion. If you steal somebody else's social security number you shouldn't feel and save. You shouldn't think that somebody might be following you who is a member of law enforcement that shouldn't happen. How preposterous is that? It is absolutely inconceivable. And I know keep using word, right? And. I think what you're thinking. Obviously. It's just the things that come out of this woman's mouth. Just unbelievable. So so ridiculous. And we're only a handful of days into her long journey congress. She's gonna be the word, and she's going to be there for ever. I mean, there's no chance anybody's gonna who's going to beat her in the next sixty years and co yeah, exactly she's young and she lives in a very liberal district. No good used to sound byte. So she got another what to elections two more elections before she runs for president because we all know she's going to. So when she's thirty five years old she's going to run for president. And you know, the main. That's the only thing that will stop her. Yeah. Maybe when that happens, we won't want a wall on the border as we flee the country ourselves. Going to be bad to talking about this lead cook that works at a restaurant that you know, as Ben here illegally for who knows how long he got so scared because of Donald Trump's rhetoric Ono. Oh my goodness. We don't want that. That's exactly what should happen rhetoric. Oh, kill ya. Real. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And Pat unleashed on Twitter women's last time. You had your ears professionally cleaned heavy ever have itchy ears. You know, some pain there or that plugged up feeling? Maybe it sounds like you're speaking in a tunnel when you speak. If you're constantly asking people to repeat themselves, you could be like millions of Americans forced to visit the doctor for professional cleaning. But now you can get those same professional results in the comfort and privacy and convenience of your own home. Wax Rx uses physician developed technology that safely effectively removes all that build up soothes your ears with conditioned formula. 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You know, I don't know if you ever say that with Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, but Mitch McConnell reinforced Trump's claim we're all behind the president. He said they support Trump's call for the border wall. Funding increases. He's demanding five point seven billion toward funding a barrier along the US Mexico border. And of course, the Democrats are acting like that's preposterous when last year not even a year ago. I believe it was in March. They offered twenty five billion dollars fully funding the wall with whatever it costs in exchange for Dhaka. But now the border is the border wall is illegal or immoral or just plain mean new can't do anything mean. When asked Wednesday how long the departments would stay closed. President Trump said whatever it takes. He doesn't care about this. We'll see if he does, you know, eventually because he has floated some possibilities that would compromise with the Democrats. He said doesn't have to be a concrete wall. We can build a steel slats, whatever let's just get this done. Trump said we might work a deal. And if we don't I may go that route of declaring a national emergency. He also said that the threshold to take action is failure to strike a border security deal with lawmakers about eight hundred thousand federal workers will start missing their paychecks tomorrow without a deal to reopen the nine departments. TEFA screeners and border security agents have worked without the guarantee of pace since the shutdown started out, apparently, that's not entirely true. I heard yesterday that the banks of these federal workers are essentially paying them. They're giving them their bunny. They're going to get their pay. And then win the pay resumes from the federal government. It'll just go back to the Bank. 'cause they know they're guaranteed that money by the federal government. Nobody's really experiencing any sort of suffering. Interesting as far as losing pay. That is interesting seriously number people can call to talk about this. This whole thing is it's dollar. Shame. Mm shell. It's all a sham. Trump is repeatedly claimed that many federal workers support the shutdown even though many government employees of worried about their ability to make ends meet so many of those people are saying it's so hard for me. It's very hard for my family. But Mr President you're doing the right thing. So so many people are saying that to quote, so yes, so many people are saying that, and you know, I'm sure he talks to these rank and file people all the time because see the last president made sure that we knew that everybody knows in quote. How many times Obama would say every heels? Oh, well, I don't know. I am somebody. That's not. It's not exactly true that everybody knows. Boy, but looking forward to this issue. This thing's going to drag on and on this is going to be twenty twenty whoever handles this. The best is going to reap the political rewards two years. It's possible. Yeah. I don't see a good ending either way though, Klay possible. I mean, I right now, I think that the Republicans are more likely to crack and fold that Democrats are, and I also think that this could be laying the groundwork for a strong independent candidate. I don't know who it is. I don't know what it is third party. I don't know. I'm just saying as these two sides as this drags on. And they continue to people around the watercooler, man. I wish this government shutdown with an yeah. Just bunch of children fighting and arguing boy the ground works being laid third party my worse twenty twenty it's gonna be very. Listing. Maybe I mean, we've had many predictions third party. Yeah. Making one of the years, I'm making one for twenty twenty. All right. I don't know the Americans will ever get that fed up where they just okay, we're done with Republicans and Democrats, and I don't know. I don't have a lot of confidence that that's going to happen. I'm not saying that independent candidates going to win the presidency. But I knew highly anticipate a showdown is running down to the wire between three candidates. Yes. Meanwhile, these TSA employees some are suing the government some have been quitting. Some are just the kid till you to go to work, and, you know, supposedly working for free, which they're really not. But it might feel like that for a while if they're Bank doesn't fund them as many are. So maybe this is a good time to talk about actually getting rid of the TSA and stopping Vadasz at the airport or or make them private companies like in Kansas City, and San Francisco. You know, there's a there's an interesting add that Tony Romo does where he's going to the airport. Have you seen this? He he's at the airport and he takes off his shoes because he's selling shoes. And I think they're sketchers shoes talking about how comfortable it is. They are. And because he has to take his shoes off because he travels all the time. He wears these sketchers slip on and then he he puts them on the conveyor belt, and they go through the scanning process, and then he walks through the machine that, you know, the scanner thing and then TSA agent stops him and says, hey, you're well, it's this. That's why I wear sketchers slip on shoes. Comfortable coming variety of styles on these as well. Without? Comfort was scheduled Squibb on. That's that's exactly why the TSA is so worthless. She knows full well who this guy is. And she still needs to want him. See your point, right? Tony romo. She said to him. Yeah. Yeah. I am you Stephanie take your top still really? So you think there's a chance that I Tony Romo. Former Dallas Cowboys quarterback and gonna blow this plane up relief. Maybe she was getting fresh with him. You know? If Tony Romo blows up a plane that I happen to be on time. I'm going to say, okay. You got me got me. You got me. I didn't see that one coming. I didn't see Tony Romo terrorist happening. So you got me on that one. Wait, wait, wait nine what we're doing at the at the airport. So what do you think? What do you think would be the bigger shock for you to have Tony Romo? Take down a plane. You're on or milk. Take down a plane. You're on. I think Tony girl. Yeah. Yeah. Tony romo. Doing. Now, the press milk would be equally almost equally. Not almost equally surprising. Yeah. Wait a minute. That woman of put an explosive inner breast milk, man. All right. Well, you got me on that one to see that company. Either. Yeah. That'll teach you the next time. We saw in line we make drink their breast milk or were they gonna play right? Madness, man, we have one shoe bomber. And now for years afterward. Everyone must remove their shoes at the airport, and as far as I know there's never been another attempt at shoe bumming, right? Is there ever been a belt bummer? A bomber. I don't think. So now, you just gave the bad guys ideas. Well, 'cause you gotta take your belt off when you go through these the scanning machine. So you're not gonna get us outweigh. But yeah, the other thing like a three year old girl. I don't I don't think any there's been any exploding three year old girls or just to ninety year old women in. We shares had who've been abused member. The member the old woman. Yep. That was felt up at the airport, and it was super invasive and intrusive. And they just kept manhandling. It was impossible to watch. With just getting enraged, it was horrifying and her son or grandson, or whatever taping or recording it and asking them what their, you know, come on. Really is this necessary. You really got a feel up my grandmother, if there's an exploding grandmother on the flight, I'm going to say, all right? You got me. Yeah. Okay. Terrorists use the grandma and planted something in her wheelchair or up her butt or whatever you're looking for their. I don't know. You know, you hear the announcements, you know, your bags been next to you at all times, you know, it's like well in the poor grandma. I don't know have have you lost track of your? But man could terrorists have put something in there while you weren't paying attention. You don't think so I mean, but you're welcome to check. Actually, if it's mean, you're you're not welcome to check their. No, everybody's got a price path. I know I don't though not not for that. And working with jiffy among. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. So maybe, you know, maybe this time we pause and reevaluate TSA a little bit. And maybe start looking toward what the Israelis do. Finally. You know, they use commonsense. They use training, and they don't treat everybody equally at the airport, and you shouldn't. And it might also be a good time for Americans to take inventory on. How little their lives are being affected over the last few weeks with the quote government shutdown. Yeah. I can't think of any way in which my life's been impacted by it traffic lights to work around your house. And yeah, okay. Road still paved out here. Yeah. Oh, right potholes that were there before or still there now so post office has been open. I know that. Yeah. And that's so that's essential. I guess that's essential. I think private business technically. I think maybe that's I honestly don't know. But I think that might be how they're getting around that internet still working. Well, no actually yesterday, we had some problems because the government shutdown that we couldn't play videos at times. Oh my God. The where we are dependent on the federal government we just stumbled onto it. At grade is here. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And at Pat unleashed on Twitter. Where conservatory in lady tweets? I think this is the time to talk about privatizing the TSA and having those companies charge the airline's of fee. Yeah. I'd be all about that. TJ top TSA will sexually abuse every grandmother coming through but will let the Coyote with yet suitcase through. Loan will twenty nine sixty five will Pat ate his underwear if Tony Romo becomes a terrorist. Ooh. What do you think? You know what? Yes. Yes. They will. I can go out on that limb. If Tony Romo never blows himself up in an airport could change on a plane. I will in fact, eat my underwear now, you're changing the bed. He just said if becomes a terrorist. Yeah. Now the qualified oh, he's gotta blow up the plane. Well, that's what we were talking about in the context of being a terrorist because at the airport shoe commercial would have Tony Romo is living in a cave in Afghanistan. Running operations does that not qualify for the underwear bed? While has he is he just they're talking to the guys or is he is he going to participate in some of their terrorist activity, both twenty nine sixty five Pat, eat his underwear Tony Romo becomes a terrorist period. Don't try to make him depending on what the definition of terrorists were using here is like if he's terrorizing viewers. Oh telestrator. Something maybe let let me say this. Let's be heavy becomes terrorist enough that he blows himself up anywhere. Okay. For for any reason. Yes, I will eat my underwear. All right. Can we settle on that? I guess. So all right. Speaking of terrorists, you know, the Oscars have been terrorized by. By the fact, that they can't seem to get anybody without any damaging tweets or demining history or just really bad appearances on the show to host the Oscars. And so now, they're I mean, it's getting to the point where they're I guess are gonna go host free or it's gotten so bad. They've actually talked about bringing Whoopi Goldberg in good gully. You want to guarantee absolute catastrophe bring in Whoopi Goldberg, but on Stephen Colbert last night, Kevin Hart who we thought I thought because he was cleansed by Ellen Degeneres Z this coming. I really thought this was the setup for him to go back so far that hasn't happened. And last night he said to Stephen bear that he's done apologizing. He's over it. Gilbert desert, anything any anything about the way, you handle the situation over the last month, you change if you had a time machine and heart said, no and Colbert, really? Yeah. I'm just over it. Wow. It's an onion. It is an onion. So no matter how many times you keep peeling it. It's just endless if you keep peeling it. It just doesn't stop. There is no end to it. He added like apologized. I apologized in gin. I said I apologize before. I apologized after that apology. It keeps going and every headline. Is you apologized? I'm done good for him. I I like this guy at least I like the ways handling this. Because I know he did say some really harsh things in tweets some of them were, you know, somewhat ridiculous. But a few of them were actually hard core sort of nasty tweets about homosexuals. So, you know, obviously, he's a comedian though. And it used to be that you can do jokes that were offensive. And that's just not the case anymore. So I'm glad that he's he's fed up. And he's telling people look I'm done with this. This is ridiculous. Because it is. So was the plan to go out there do the may Ecopa with with Ellen generous, you know, and then go on Kobe confirm. You know, what I'm going on the Oscars? Maybe surprise when he said he wasn't and what happened in between was he just saw social media was still giving him a hard time. And he's like, you know, what? No, forget it. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. But I don't know. But I thought the cleansing last week. I thought we'd here this week. Oh, Kevin Hart's coming back to the doctor. And we welcome him with open arms. The bottom line is whether it's Kevin Hart or someone else or nobody. I'm still not going to watch for even a nanosecond. Good point. Yeah. That's a that's kind of have similar feelings on that. And I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched the Oscars all the way through or even. In any part of them. Now Sunday night. I watched the Golden Globes for about maybe five minutes. I was like, okay. This is why I don't watch these. I'm done. I happen to tune in right around the time of the Christian bale babbling. Okay. That's that's why. I don't want. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Turned out to be really good timing. Now somebody else we used to not be able to stomach in in any way when he had a show on CNN Piers Morgan what has happened appears more hit. Uh-huh. Piers Morgan take some commonsense pills, or I know one thing that happened with Piers Morgan he loves Donald Trump. He's super loyal to him. And I seems to have changed some of his politics because now he tore into Democrats over their hypocrisy in opposing the border wall between the US and Mexico in a Wednesday editorial published in the Daily Mail, Morgan said Piers Morgan this is Piers Morgan said his biggest problem with the battle between Trump, and the Democrats is the Democrats, quote rank hypocrisy, unquote. As so often in modern American politics. It's the mail order. A stench of rink apocryphal that most poisons the soul that rank apocryphal according to Morgan emanates from the Democratic Party who he writes was once in favor of a US Mexico border wall. And he's he's right about that. Obviously Morgan doesn't seem to forget occasions when lawmakers like former President Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton all supported the border wall or a border fence in his speech to the Georgetown law school Schumer made his feelings on the issue. Crystal clear Morgan remembers illegal immigration is wrong. Played it simple. When we use phrases like undocumented workers, we convey, a message to the American people that their government is not serious about combating illegal immigration, which the American people over. Overwhelmingly oppose Chuck Schumer. Right, right. And what I love about. This is Piers Morgan pointing it out. Right. Appears Morgan digging up an old, quote or to Democrats to make his point. That's fantastic. And what a point by Chuck Schumer, illegal immigration is wrong. Plain and simple. There's no way he would say that now. And we when we use phrases like undocumented workers, we show the American people that the government's not serious. Well, yeah. Where is that frame of mind? Now, he Morgan points out that in two thousand five then Senator Obama said we simply cannot allow our people we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected undocumented, unchecked and circumnavigating the line of people who are waiting patiently diligently lawfully to become immigrants into this country. Casts. What happened to all of that Democrats? We're is that now when do you think that Schumer quote was way back in the fifties? Yeah. Nineteen sixty two I'm going to say, you know, before he was educated in and came to a senses that would have been during the presidential term of Brock Obama in twenty ten twenty. Jeez. That's when he was at Georgetown law school when he made that. Yeah. There yacht is that's amazing. This Schumer talks tough. This is headline Schumer talks tough on immigration reform issue. April eighteenth twenty ten while. I mean, that's the that's the league quote of this story people enter the United States without our permission illegal aliens, illegal aliens, should not be treated the same as people who entered the United States legally. And then the story goes on. Yeah. Senator Chuck Schumer. That's crazy. Peers continues on balance, you might think that Democrats would be supportive of president Donald Trump's wall. Wouldn't you after all these seem to agree with him that the answer to the southern border illegal immigration problem is a gigantic barrier in extra security? He goes on to note that Democrats hate Trump so much there now pretending also hate his plan. Even though it bears a very striking resemblance to what they themselves have. So eagerly voted for and supported for twelve years. Again, there's two ironies here. One. Is that these things? Yes, did come from Democrats, but to its peers Morgan pointing it out. Wow. The world makes no sense. It's completely. It is absolutely upside down. I mean, the next thing, you know, Tony Romo is gonna start taking planes down from the that's the day. I will eat my underwear that is the day at score. Trump's wall is little different in its intention to what his howling democrat rivals have themselves. So enthusiastically endorsed in the past. Morgan points out that he to fortifies his home with walls and fences as many people famous or not do the purpose of those barriers is to stop unauthorized people from coming inside Morgan rights. There's nothing ideologically or morally wrong with building a large barrier to stop people illegally entering illegally entering a place. Be it a home or country. Of course, he's right about that. Indeed. That's why many of the same Democrats currently attacking Trump over his wall plan have previously voted for something very similar themselves. So cut the hypocrisy liberals it stinks. Credible buddy. Martin who's now on the same team as us here. He made the point last night Nancy Pelosi should guard her house not with walls and doors and locks but just drones flying around where she sleeps would you feel comfortable with that come on? No, no. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Let me tell you about Optima Tax Relief or sponsor for this portion of the Pat gray unleashed broken. It's bad enough that your IRS problems have ruined things in the past for you. Don't don't drag it into the new year. Consider what's at stake? When the IRS has you in their sights, your paychecks at stake, your Bank account, your business, even your home. They can they can absolutely take pretty much anything. They want from you. They can certainly garnish your paycheck. Now, you know, better than to deal with the IRS on your own you need expert help but hope because there's so many and maybe think they're all the same not. 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But he mocked him. Because he's got a patch on his I n he's got a patch on his eye because he lost the I in either Afghanistan or Iraq. I don't I don't remember what. But he lost it in the service of his country. Anyway, this guy is just filled to the broom with common sense, and he slammed Hank Johnson in a video released on Sunday. Over Johnson's recent remarks about President Trump and his supporters. Here's what he had to say. I call the congressman Hank Johnson had this to say recently much like Hitler took over the Nazi party has taken over the Republican put. It's now known as the Trump Republican party. Donald Trump supporters older less educated. Let's do rospa. Spruce and they had dying early prospered their life spans decreasing and many dying from alcoholism, drug overdoses, liver disease or simply a broken heart caused by economic despair. Okay. Mr johnson. President Trump is a lot of things, but he's not Hitler. He didn't kill millions of people. It inside a World War is imminent concentration camps into accuse him of being Hitler's intellectually dishonest, and frankly to huge insults. Millions of Jews who died under Nazi Germany. But if you want to insult President Trump at least pick on somebody your own size. At least you're picking on somebody who can fight back. But you went on to insult degrade and demean tens of millions of Americans who voted for him. It's called drug addicted. Uneducated unhappy alcohol IX, this is a cowardly form of politics. No matter how much I would disagree with you in congress. I will never ever insult a good Americans who voted for you. I will never pay an entire half of the country as deplorables, or fools or the dregs of society. Never do it. And if I ever do you better call me out on it because I can't imagine a worse. Former leadership these people. Who are exercising their right? The nerve voice. The only way they can which is through their vote there. Another TV show on a radio show, a weekly column or big social media following they have a vote, and you use your public platform to insult and demean them. This is not the behavior we expect from a member of congress solely with us picking somebody around size pick on me. If you like my office will be right down the hall from yours. We'll see in Washington. I like this guy. That's exactly what Republic the Republican party needs are people that don't roll over. That's how Trump got elected this guy, if he wants to be, you know, the the voice of the Republicans in congress, please feel free. I'm just grateful that they don't just take it and roll over. So thanks, Dan. Like waamp is about to. They don't roll over, you know. The whole island will become so. Populated tip of and cat size. We don't anticipate that. Greece response in the history of responses. Yeah, it is. And you know, what when Johnson is talking about the Trump supporters and talks about how they're low income people winded that wait a minute. Got it in for low income people. Now, that's a bad thing that they're low income people if they are they're not prosperous. So these same people who are continually saying they're all about the low income people the. The average Americans who have problems in their lives. Not the wealthiest one percent. Then he disparages them just because they apparently didn't vote for him. They voted for Donald Trump. I mean, that's the hypocrisy is amazing. Absolutely amazing. So good for Dan Crenshaw to take that on and bring that hope it's a sign of things to come from him. Because we we did play the part where he talked about where he compared Trump to Hitler. But we didn't go we didn't play all the way to where he started disparaging the Trump voters. Good gosh, that's up maisy. Incredible. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and Pat unleashed on Twitter. We got to show you the birth of a democrat. This happened. I believe on Dr Phil was it yesterday. I don't know win it happened. I just know that James woods actually, brought this to people's attention. Did he tweet it out? Is that how? Yeah. Like, you don't know live on Twitter and Mr. Twitter Twitter tabs open right now on your right there. Right. Right. So yes. Yes. So on Twitter. He tweeted out the birth of a democrat will play that for you coming up here in just a few minutes. Fantastic. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three more Pechory unleashed coming up. Great is here on the please radio network. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three. An paddle east on Twitter. I guess at the Consumer Electronics Show. They're showing some pretty impressive technology that is being touted as a potential high tech solution to the border wall. At one startup company. At least at the is showcasing Howell. Lied are laser based detection system lightly used in autonomous vehicles could be deployed along the us Mexico border at a far lower cost of physical wall or fence and with fewer environmental impacts. Quander g systems among a handful of other tech firms working on light our board voter security is showing ten dis at the conference. It's technology being deployed in pilot projects on the India-Pakistan frontier. We offer a solution. That's more capable than a physical wall. According to the chief executive in co founder of the company it can see day and night in any weather and can automatically track intruders and give GPS coordinates in real time to border patrol officers. Actually sounds pretty good said such a system would cost about two to three percent of the price of a physical barrier. An electric solution offers additional benefits including for the environment and operating costs. He said barriers eyesore, and it intrudes on the environment. It impedes it impedes the flow of wildlife all come on kid have that like. Oh my gosh. If it gets in the way of a random, you know, badger crossing the border. I can't happen. I just I want you to put yourself in a badger shoes. For just a second. If bedrooms wear. Yeah. In the south western. Speckled BAC badger. Oh, they do. So so so I want you to think of Berlin. And they built the Berlin Wall overnight families were separated from each other. I mean, it takes a while. I understand to build a wall. But does but I mean, that's that's that's not enough time for a badger to figure out which side of the fence to be right? And when he decides. And then what if he changes his mind? No, you know, it was going to hang out in the United States tied really love to go back to Mexico, and I can't because of his Tam wollen my way, I mean, you had stupid badger. I'm. They took years to build that thing you could have gone around. You could have gotten everybody against what are we family? Meaning the building the wall. Now, finally, we didn't think this day would come. But what are we going to do? We want to go now badgers gerbils or whatever's crossing the border as far as wildlife is concerned. They don't have to make that choice because this technology won't stop the wildlife from rolling wherever they want. And apparently this new technology is vastly improved in recent years. Because of the light detection and ranging technology paired with artificial intelligence with the long range of light are you detect things before they get to the perimeter. And the software is so much more advanced we can get very high resolution images and look at someone's behavior. You can see every articulation this allows you to see how each person is moving and have a good idea of whether they're a patrol officer or somebody about to cross illegally. Or badgers or? Yeah. Gerbils badgers. Whatever I mean, make up your mind polar bears, badger know, the migratory pattern of all of these animals has changed so dramatically because of global warming that when surprised a polar bears going back and forth across the border. So confused now with the weather weirding he has it's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Bears hanging around the Mexican border. Yeah. Sometimes I'm going to need the video. Well, that's what will happen when we get the light art down there. You'll be able to see that probably higher chance of that happening than finding a patch of garbage in the Pacific Ocean. Yes. Yes. Because batch garbage specific ocean, isn't there. So probably not gonna find it. I think I think that maybe later in the program, we could show what you could do that garbage. Oh, yeah. If you collected it, and you can you could really repurpose it as the hip word that the youngsters are using repurpose recycle reuse repurpose. The NHL is unveiling a an eco-friendly all-star jersey that the Allstars are going to use this year. So good designed by manufacturing partner. Adidas news colorless and rather uninspired threats the tournament portion of the showcase weekend. We're unveiled to the public yesterday to little fanfare from threat to thread, the all-star jerseys are the first from the NHL that feature re purposed and up cycled material. Upcycle that's a word. They took garbage NHL jerseys out of the garbage garbage jerseys. That's great depends on which team is wearing them looking at you gritty. It's not great. I'm not sure dressing the players jerseys distinguishable only by their own shaded in logo. Is really the way to go. But that's what they're doing. Yeah. We have video made from recycled garbage video. Look at that from threat into threat. I ever NHL jersey, featuring repurpose cycled material cycle what they mean by that is it's garbage. They took garbage and made these out of nice, isn't that beautiful? Those are beautiful. Apparently, this is these aren't the ones we're talking about though for the NHL all star game. Yeah. That's it right there. I don't feature every team on them. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're gonna wear. Yeah. For the for the skills competition. But I don't appreciate that might team. The Edmonton Oilers is the only one that is resting at the bottom of the ocean their little promotional video. Thank you very much. There you go recycle up. I'm sorry up cycled up cycled jerseys. Those are really really really nice really really nice yesterday or or sometime recently. James woods pointed out a an episode of of Dr Phil in which is fifteen year old girl. You actually see her become a progressive democrat right before your very eyes. Great. You wrote into me. Tell me what you wanted me to get straight with your mom. I understand that. I can't live off thousand dollars a month. And I grew up on a certain lifestyle. She can't just take that away from me immediately. If someone took her lights out from her she wouldn't like that. And I grew up on it. It's all ever. No. I can't deal with this. So you want me to get her to do what what would be the home run for you. I need her to understand that I need at least twenty five hundred dollars a month. You want to g wag sixties? There's no question I need it. She wants to give me Mercedes C class. I will accept that. Toyota and fairly good. I will be happy with that car. See that we started with like Honda a tweet. I started this. I will not be driving anything that can be considered a new BreX over in above core. Close to thirty one thousand dollars. Why not I mean, why those it seems like exorbitant amount to spend on a car seat foolish to me. I just wouldn't spend on a car. Well, I want to. We're talking about me here. Right. You need to work out something where she becomes productive and makes a contribution to society and stead of taking from society start with a job. No, absolutely. If she needs a tub. Unbelievable job. No. I don't want to do. Mean is that serious serious? Yeah. It's crazy. Seriously wack that is crazy. And to say, hey, let's have this discussion on national television. I don't even understand that. She now, what's a g wagon. Sadi's g series Google that. Yeah, they they have the the g series. I guess she's talking about that. Oh, they're kind of neat. Little boxy like type thing, but g wagon fifteen year old wanting to day wagon and her mom has only offered her Mercedes C class. She went from twenty five hundred dollars a month allowance two thousand dollars a month low allowance and she's pissed off about it. Here's your allowance right here. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Well, I mean, it's it's it's the parents fault. Right. Was just about to say you make the point. Why you have this question on national TV? Well, because for fifteen years, obviously didn't have any discussion about this spoiled brats behavior. Yeah. So now, you get to have it with Dr Phil in front of millions and now you're reaping what you've sown for fifteen years. And there there was. Wow. That's that's pretty amazing Shouf. You need to get a job and immediately. She breaks down. Job. Yeah. None of us. Do you know we'd all like to sit home and earned free money? But doesn't doesn't work that way pudding? Just doesn't go that way. Okay. Wow. She's in for some rude awakenings in her life. Yep. I can't think of the characters name wasn't Faruk assault. Who was the character who cried like on in wind like that on willy Wonka? Chocolate factory. Afficionado of that movie. I don't know it might have been because I don't know. Oh, that's right there. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three incredible. That's hard to imagine gross. Somebody who's that spoiled, and that entitled, wow grows up vote for Alexandria, Cosio Cortel, absolutely finish that statement. Yup. No doubt about it. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three we actually have a democrat speaking out against other Democrats come on don't lie to the audience. We've had a couple of these things from the Piers Morgan thing. Bashing Democrats to Tulsi Gabbard democrat from Hawaii implicitly criticizing two of her fellow democratic congresswoman for subjecting judicial nominee to a religious test. As a result of his Catholic faith. She doesn't name them by name. But Gabbard was referring to Kamala Harris and maisy Hirono of Hawaii both of whom have targeted federal judicial nominee. Brian buesser for his Catholicism and Hirono has demanded that he dropped his membership in the knights of Columbus and recuse himself from any case on which the organization has taken a position. What Gabbard does explicitly cite the controversial comments of Senator Dianne Feinstein who in the fall of twenty seventeen questions circuit court nominee, Amy Coney Barrett about her Catholic faith member that during the confirmation hearing. Because Feinstein said the dogma lives loudly within you, and that's of concern. What really my weight, you're telling me as a as a United States Senator that my religion is a problem. Feinstein's remark received significant backlash and from Catholics in particular. Who rightly noted the senators obvious implications practicing Catholics are not suited to serve on US courts. Wow. That is Gabbard said while I oppose the nomination of Brian abuser to the US district court, Nebraska. I stand strongly against those who are fomenting religious bigotry citing as disqualifier 's his Catholicism and is affiliated with the knights of Columbus. The party that worked so hard to convince people that Catholics and knights of Columbus like L Smith, and I don't know John F Kennedy could be both good Catholics and good public servants shows into learning disregard of its own history in making such attacks. Today, we must call this out for what it is religious bigotry elected leaders engaging in religion baiting are playing with fire. Now, of course, she's she's come under fire from other Democrats, and they're all hacked off at her for daring to oppose any other democrat. This. But this religious bigotry thing is raring its ugly head on a pretty regular basis lately. So tolsey Gabbard got a guest on guests on her religion. On tulsi. Yeah. She is Hindu. Just a fun fact for you. They're really. Yeah. That I had no idea. There was a Hindu in office. That's interesting. You learn something Ivan every day on the Pat gray unleashed program. Yes. So Hindu defending a Catholic. I like that. 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Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. And if that unleashed on Twitter. Steve tweets that were too many people in Atlantis. So it tipped over. And. Finally, had these the answer their potato over orc tweets. Hank Johnson's talking is like Beto playing guitar. They're like, look, I'm shredding it. And we're like, no, sir. You are not. Yes. That's exactly right. Oh, no. You're going to wake people up on a Thursday morning. Here we go. Everybody thought we would get up. It was mentioned. Shredding it right now. Not no he is not. Conserva -tarian lady tweets when it comes to securing the border. I'm for an all of the above approach. Go put a gopro camera on the darn badger badger badger sees in a typical twenty four hour period roaming, around the border more than any of the border patrol agents. Unsure this speckled back badger with choose from coffee lover m the border wall will be built border wall will be built before foreigner is nominated to the riot all at tough one. And it's probably true. Have an interesting story about foreigner. I'll share with the in a second. Karen, Karen, Armstrong tweets. Yes. For Kosovo was the spoiled brat willy Wonka thought. So apparently, Dr Phil from oops, all berries. I love that. That's from our complaint that UCS all berries is at this point Cap'n crunch, come on. Now. It's a scam scam. Thirty freaking years in the making may have been at some point at the firm. First time back in nineteen eighty six or whatever these came out. Yeah. You might have made a mistake. You put all berries in there. Instead of those crunchy things that taste good. But they ruined the top of your mouth about to shred. So then you put it all berries once now thirty years later. It's not a screw up. You're doing that. Dereliction of duty. Either that or you're the most incompetent come company to ever to ever be on the face of this earth, right after Starbucks Cooley drinker tweets, what would surprise you more Pat Tony Romo blows up a plane or AOL C says something intelligent. Oh, definitely the latter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean at least trying to come up with a good comparison of stunning and wouldn't wouldn't be. But the fact that never going to happen AO. See Alexandria, Cosio Cortez will never say anything intelligent. Whereas Tony Romo he might. He might be set off. That's fun. How everybody's adopted the now now the the AFC. Acronym for her. Everybody calls Ailsa. I I liked it. Andrea Cossio Cortez is just too much to take a breath in the middle of saying your name. It's too long the trim it down a little, yes. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three speaking of foreigner Shriners hospitals for children is teaming up with them to remake a classic actually folders probably teaming up with shredders to remake classic. I doubt the Shriners hospital. People are saying, hey, you know, what we should do is remake foreigners. I wanna know what love is. Yes. We got we reserved. We were prompted to reserve studio space. And we're like, hey, why don't we rent studio space for the Shriners Shriners? We're not better Rourke. Right. And apparently, that's what happened here. The band is donating a version of their chirping song. I want to know what love is recently re recorded and sung by band members and children who are Shriners patients in Tampa. Well, that's cool. Singles now available for download and the video that was shot in the Tampa Bay area has also. Been released on Google play tunes for download and one hundred one hundred percent of the sales of this. Go to Shriners. That's really cool. Give us a taste. If you would maybe. Would love. Little taste. Yes. Although Lou grim, obviously not involved in that because Liu retired. And it's their new singer, whatever his name is just really on this charity song. No, no. No, no. So probably won't sound like. All right. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and it Pat unleashed on Twitter as as we just saw because we reeled off several of your tweet. Yeah. Great this morning. Good frontier. Airlines now encouraging customers to tip their flight attendants. As if as air travel is obnoxious enough. Now, add tips to the process, they take your order, though, they serve food and drinks it come back to clean up. But should you? Tip. Your flight attendant frontier. Airlines says yes. They're accepting individual tips. According to the Chicago Tribune, they may tipping an option three years ago. But until this year flight attendants were required to pool the tips, we appreciate the great work of our flight attendants, then pay them better. How about you pay your employees? So the people who paid hundreds of dollars to fly on your on your planes. Don't have to supplement their income about you, pay them more pet. I that is crawl airlines except for one which one the one that I love southwest. Absolutely. You don't have to pay for baggage. I'm achieves game. I ain't got. So. So last week I found myself being kind of forced into having to book a flight with a particular airline, and then the return trip turned out to different airlines with two different measurements sizes on the bags. So now, I think my trip that I'm going to take I'm just going to just wear whatever I'm in the first day and just wing it from there because I'm not paying I don't know the dimensions that are allowed because it's one flight, and it's partnering with another company, and it's madness ever since they started this baggage fee, and then pillow fee and blanket fee, and whatever fee now they want me to. Tip the stewardess crazy. I mean, and if you want to eat something that used to be included, none of that is any more such an experience, man. Now, there's a payment tablet. The displays a message that reads gratuities are appreciated. Exclamation point. It offers customers the options of fifteen twenty or twenty five percent weight of what? Of of the certainly not the ticket, right? Probably your meal, but who knows any more? Or if you get a drink. I guess. That is crazy that is so crazy in frontier airlines is one of those main offenders of of nickel and diming debt yet to pay for the second bag, fifty bucks, or whatever it is. You have to you have to pay for the peanuts. Bring you know. At green unleashed. Before we get to far. Removed from this. We gotta play a key. We gotta play this really freaky Ono guy who. Licks doorbell standing at somebody else not his own but some poor unsuspecting homeowner. I guess they're not home. And the guy is standing there at their doorbell. Linking it town. Take a look at this. I leaving lickety-split. There. He is. He's just licking their normal DNA to recover. Yes. That's for sure I could say whatever rings your bell. But is doing. He's really from live PD here the feel and he is definitely into it for three hours, not three minutes. Look at these would want to say anything else can say, let's say. To have a severe example. Why? Upgrading mine. We all right with three hours of licking that doorbell. I mean there what is that about their? What are you things? If you're going to spend three hours licking. Try to CPAP something gonna least find out how long it takes to get to the chewy chocolate center of it could've put him in a foot it finally rest, but he did it with the doorbell instead. Snow? How does that happen to a person where you know, what looks really good to me? I'm gonna I'm gonna look at doorbell lungs. I can like maybe an hour two. Maybe even three. Stories like that. That happened that just the founding fathers slash into my head. What would they think about fill in the blank, you know? Yeah. About a guy who licks doorbell for three hours. I'm thinking not favored. Would probably be like. Yeah. Wait a minute. We we risked everything for that guy hardship. So guy could lick a normal country. A group of farmers who took on the most powerful earth for that. That's what we'd become. I mean, the first thing they would obviously say would be like what's doorbell, but well on that. Right. Weird man. That is not right is wrong on so many levels. So weird to just so I mean what kind of finish? Could that be? I who knows. I'm sure there's a word for it takes. I'm sure there is triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three also in California. Now, they're you know, they're. You know, they're trying to fix the environment. And they're doing such a good job. They've eliminated straws obviously and grocery bags and now the receipt that you get at the store paper receipts of any kind one California lawmaker is trying to get rid of receipts. Phil ting democrat from San Francisco. What a surprise unveiled a plan to take the state off of printed receipts. They would have to give customers electronic receipts. If they don't ask for a physical copy most people assume that all these receipts can be recyclable guess what they can't now. How do you feel? No now, how do you feel about paper receipts? Yet don't care frankly, though, I I don't really want the receipt because just shows up on my Bank account statement. So I don't need the receipt. Keep your receipt, I'm old school because every time I just say, I don't need the receipt or every time whatever then I need it later. And then I'm gonna turn the product or whatever. Yeah. That's the only thing if you think you're going to return something then. Yeah. You probably wanna pay receipt. And that's cute. We could Email it to you. Could you is that the only thing you're gonna be emailing to me the option though, at like best buy or I think Home Depot does that to whether you know, when you're paying for it. It comes up on the do you want paper receipt? Do you want Email text in what you gotta do? Is. You got to set up an Email address four receipts at Yahuda. Yeah. That'd be smart something like that. So that'd be smart, whatever. But then you thank you, California. Because if you get rid of paper receipts. I'm sure we're. We're done. We're done at that point. We've done all we need to do for global warm. Yeah. Next thing. You know, you're right. You're wearing receipts on your back at the NHL all star skills competition from recycled garbage wasn't upcycle. You got upcycle cycle your garbage. So that they can be worn as jerseys. What a world what a world we live in. And then what is the deal speaking about what a world how about this democrat donor big Hillary Clinton daughter. Big time donor to a lot of different high profile Democrats to black men now have died at his home of overdoses and a third was drugged there. And the guy is still running around free. There's a guy now who is talking about how he narrowly escaped death when Edward buck injected him with crystal meth at his sex toy filled apartment where yes, two black men have died within eighteen months people were actually protesting outside. It's home. Chanting. Lock him up the other day, but Germain Geoghegan. Told the Daily Mail how buck who Sixty-three paid him to fly from Minneapolis to Los Angeles. Then drugged him with crystal meth that he dissolved in Gatorade. And then he injected him with more crystal meth at is West Hollywood apartment in. Wow. He's got photos of being there. Apparently, this guy has some weird some things and. He's now under investigation, at least for the deaths of I think the latest black man who's in his fifties at his apartment in the early hours of Monday morning this week and the second investigation into the death of Gamal more eighteen months ago that's been reim- reopened now. His attorney Seymour Amsterdam declined to comment on this new allegation when he was contacted but questioned why he didn't contact the police at the time. He said we've seen a reason to respond unverified accusations from individuals just seeking attention. This prominent democrat donor gave Clinton posed with former California governor Jerry Brown one party. Congressman Ted lieu has said he'll return the cash donated to him. But the Clinton campaign has so far said nothing what a surprise. Buck is also faced protests outside his apartment. It's mentioned. Which is a Turney has denied he had any part in claiming he opened his door to vulnerable people in bad circumstances to try to help him. Yes. Yeah. I'm sure that's right. So Democrats will be giving back all the money that this guy raised for him. Yes. One did. Okay. But Hillary has so far not no. He said I I had done sex for money other times. But I don't make it a habit. This latest drug victim making said the first day we met amendment is house. There's a gate at the main entrance any buzzed me up. He's on the second floor. What I walked in. It was there were dim lights mattress in the middle of the floor three mirrors surrounding the mattress and a flat screen TV mounted on the wall. It was just kind of weird. He said anywhere. You look in this room. You'll see yourself in the mirror what mostly caught my attention was the windows. They were covered in fabric. You couldn't see out of them. And nobody can see in. Yeah. And I continue to go down the road of having sex for money. Yes. Yes. Okay. So they had a couple of drinks and the chatted. He says he knew my situation we discussed my lifestyle, and what I was going through how long I'd been using crystal meth. He was a good person. I met him. He's really cool. He was calm. We just sat at the table trying to get to know each other and the fetishes that he likes. Then he talks about some of the more sexualize things that happened there, and we won't get into that. And it's this guy should be seriously investigated and maybe locked up. I'm thinking. So gates said that buck was open about the fact that he was having dates with a lot of men he said, young black handsome men, and there was one other attribute that he was looking for. But we won't get into that. Either. Wow. This guy is creepy. He's creepy. What a surprise that. He's a democrat donor. So we've gone from doorbell liquor to this guy. Yes. On the span, then minutes, then this person left LA moved to Dallas to spend time with his brother gutty. I was probably in Dallas for two or three weeks before Ed buck called and offered to pay for my ticket back to California. He wanted me to come back to California for a weekend took them up on the offer. But this time when he came over buck wanted to inject him with a syringe of crystal meth, and he'd never been injected before. But this time he introduced him to it and he allowed to because it was the first time he tried it. And why not? So he did. And then he says he saw little black bag with a small amount of what he believed to be crystal crystal meth in another bag of a lot of crystal meth. And he didn't see other drugs there. Other than Viagra though. So this is yeah. This is. Ed, amazing situation that this guy apparently has a history and a history where at least two men have died in the last year and a half. And this guy almost died from it too. So maybe get them off the street. I don't know. And maybe Democrats should be not accepting money from this guy. Maybe that's a little too much to ask. Good time. Unbelievable. I mean, some chest bazaar stories and the things that that Hillary Clinton will ignore pretty pretty amazing triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three looks like Jeff Bezos is to lose about half his fortune here. He's worth what one hundred forty million. I think Cording to latest estimates. And he was up to one hundred fifty billion dollar million. He was in modern billion now, it's only a hundred forty billion. I'll say I sneeze it hundred and forty billion. He and his wife of twenty five years are getting divorced now. So there's no we don't know if they have a prenuptial agreement if not California has a law where you just divided equally. Fifty fifty Washington state Washington. Well, I think they've got a place in California. Okay. I think that's where it was Washington anyway, regardless. Yeah. Whatever state they're in whether it's California, Washington, one of them wealthy. She's gonna make a lot of money like seventy billion dollars because she they they got married a year before Amazon even became a right? So right. And that whatever state that we're not getting I think it's I it's it's maybe it's Rhode Island Nova Scotia. No, it's Iowa. It's there they live in Nebraska, and apparently Kansas has this law where you split the money equally. But this Florida, yes. In South Carolina, and everywhere. Except for a rack and the Asian countries. So he's gonna fall from number one. Most wealthy do the fourth or fifth all the way to fourth or fifth. How's he going to scrape by? I don't know. Clip coupons say what we do is start a gofundme page. About to become a much less wealthy, man. And she's going to become like instantly the wealthiest woman in the world. And then he's going to fall from wealthiest man to about fourth or fifth, and they'll both have seventy billion. I mean at that point seventy billion. What's the point of going? What's the point? Yes. Pull the plug. I mean, you know, thank you. I mean poor convened for Jeff Bezos. Now, if he can even if he can even afford, pork and beans, I'm thinking of the homeless shelter soon. Get that serious triple eight nine hundred thirty three Ninety-three. Let's go to bull winkle in Florida. Who may know what the licking finishes all about? No. Oh, wow. Hey bowl winkle. Welcome to the blaze. You there? Is rookie squirrel available. Hello. Barely bully Bowie has walked away winkle left the building in the forest. I wanted to find out what that licking fetish was all about. And now, we're not going to article. Good. How're you doing? Yeah. Hey, how you guys doing? We're we're well do. I just wanted to let you all know that that. Yeah. Yeah. The doorbell linking that is. Israel. Okay. Why? Idea. Why what's the word a lot of feedback on the phone, so yeah, okay. We turn down your radio, or whatever you're listening to and then and then it'll be it'll be less confusing to you. What's the word for doorbell? Licking fettered bowling. It is a genuine fetish. Okay. And. The way it's known is as tongue ring. Really? Is that true? Or are you just you're making that up? No a ring just. Okay. And it's a real thing. I mean, how many people? Afflicted with Tonya, my lot, more popular since they came out with these doorbells that can see and all that talk P and all that. So it's writing spreading pretty pretty rapidly around the country, so really employees, you know, you your own doorbell. All right. Thanks. I think I might be using one of those. Wipes handy way. When you when you go to WalMart and your wipe down the serious alcohol on them. Yes. And then I might use something I don't know nuclear on it and just really spray that down or if that's my doorbell. I'm replacing the door. And the wall and the entire patio. Probably the doors self I'm probably moving is what's going to happen about you know, they're always talking about what kind of germs are on your phone or your ipad screen, and here's his guy licking. Doorbell. Who knows how many people have touched who knows how many people who haven't washed their hands of touched. Who knows how many bugs of crawled all over it? I mean, what what has happened to his tongue and the inside of his mouth now. So when I was trying to find find the definition of what that was earlier I stumbled on an article from yesterday from Jona Goldberg, and I just tweeted it out and Henry Keith I love this line. He goes the doorbell licking, clearly gross. But I have questions Google is exactly how I got to article doorbell licking fetish. And now, I hate myself. So. Goes on. Yeah. It's so it's not he doesn't recommend googling that. Now. I'm definitely not clicking images Google that. Let me tell you about home tied lock. Title ach is something that's sadly exploding nationwide. It's it's because our titles are all available on the internet. Yours is mine is Glenn was and they showed him the people at home tied. Lock a retired FBI agent who now works for home. Tidal lock showed him how easy it is. To just steal your your title and transfer it to a quick title, deed, Ford your signature, and then go take out a loan with your title. Then you get stuck with the payments. Two massive problem. 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Twenty five percent of students admitted had an average score the bottom. Twenty five percent at Harvard. Had an average score fourteen sixty was twelve seventy well. Anyway, he decided to weigh in on Twitter. And he tweeted out reminder, no, one is illegal on stolen land. Oh shut. I love that argument. Shut at you. Hold on just saying white European settlers ancestors stole this land from the Indians stole it from the Indians or we stole it. Usually when this comes up in in regard to Mexico stolen from Mexico. So if the solution if it would David hugs guilt is for him to move back to Europe wherever's, his ancestors are from then I might be in on this a little bit here. I might go with him here by all that is holy could everybody who believes that we still this land for Mexico, please just pick up a history book and figure out what happened there. Read one chapter of one paragraph one line of a history book, please for the love of heaven, educate yourself on stolen. We didn't steal the land for Mexico. First of all Mexico owned the land for fifteen Wapping years, not fifteen hundred not one hundred and fifty. Fifteen. It was Spain's before that for three hundred years, then Mexico's stole it from them. Then we got into what is called a war with Mexico, defeated them. Drove our troops all the way to Mexico City, which you might recognize as the capital of Mexico, we essentially took over their country. And then we said, you know, what we're going to give you all your territory back all the way up to the border of Texas K, very generous offer have very generous offer. And then not only that we kick your ass in this war. But we're also going to pay fifteen million dollars for the property were now keeping well. So that's not all that's not stolen that's paid for land. It's it's it's conquered land, and it's pain for land. Because we didn't have to give them any money. We decided to out of the goodness of our hearts you. Correct me if I had my timeline wrong here. But my understanding is like there were several native American tribes that that owned the land effect. Right. And then they were defeated by other native, American tribes and so forth. And then Spain came in discovered. Right this. Yes, they took it over. Yes. They're they're Hispanic. Right. Right. Okay. And then Mexico like you just mentioned took it from them from Spain. They're Hispanic and then and then and then some white folk came around, and then they won the war. Right. And that's the only illegitimate. That's right. Exactly. The white guy with rice. It's wrong. Yes. But when all the Hispanics and the native Americans win, then it's cool in almost every country. You can point to there is a people who conquered a land. I don't know if you're aware of that. It's not just the United is every nation on earth. If nobody had conquered any territory or paid for any territory expanded their borders. There'd be no nations on this earth. Don't give them ideas. Man. Be a few scattered tribes on the planet, and it'd be a much different place in which to live. You know? It's a it's amazing to me. Because would it be better? If America didn't exist people like David Hogg, it's a little idiot. Would it be better in your mind? If the United States of America never existed, think of all the things that would be different think of how much worse life on this planet would be. I shudder to think, but if David Hogg doesn't wanna live on stolen land, then get out and yes, go back to wherever it is. You came from that you feel good about she's how can you live in a country and pay taxes to it? When you believe as this guy does. Unreal. We know what he's going to major in at the Harvard. I certainly don't. No, I'm being told political sites. Oh, no. Harry comes give it for years. He's you know, he's going to run for office. All he gets time out perfectly. He can be the running mate and he's not gonna build enough. No. He firm. It'll be in our cabinet. President could be serving in the congress while she's president. Now, are we going to be? So are we going to say president Cortez or president Cortez or how's that going to work? We're going to say president ANC because we're yeah. Hopefully, we're never going to say Idi of those things because I can't. Can't imagine a democratic social, well, I can't imagine. Yeah. You can't actually can't imagine it. Call history. All right tomorrow. Second hour, we're going to be deep into more and trivia by this time while more trivial fourteen in three on the season fourteen times we've been right and our game tomorrow. Indianapolis Colts at the Kansas City. Chiefs should be fun. All right finish off the week together. Tomorrow with more on trivia on Pat gray unleashed. Gray only on the blaze radio network.
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You can't eat your principles for dinner
Nothing is going to happen unless we figure out how to stop people from just being not paid indefinitely. Well, if you're gonna be ideas, let us the chairman the Facebook group. Yes. Sure. Hello, welcome to another episode of the weeds on the FOX media podcast network. Matthew yglesias Jared Lind, Sarah cliff? The government continues to be shutdown. We're open which we are open. But we wanted to talk about that. And I've noticed over the past few days as sort of change in the temperament among people, I know who have been furloughed, which was despite all the seriousness really when people I went on furlough. It was kinda like staycationing fund at least for the people. I know obviously, there are some people in word dire economic circumstances cetera. But a lot of folks where like, okay, we've been through shutdowns before like, this is annoying. But it's fine. Now got on long enough where people are looking at missing a second paycheck that you know, middle class people people who are doing well are starting to think this is not good. I would really like to get. Paid people are turned from amused to genuinely annoyed in my experience. You know, that raises the prospect of of this having a sort of real impact on people's lives and on the government in a way that the past sort of Trump era, mini shutdowns or even the somewhat longer Obama-era shutdown. Just do. Yeah. I mean, I've been fascinated by this obviously somebody who's on a beat where people are less likely to be furloughed and more likely to have been working on paid for the last. But you know, I definitely I think that we really have hit a point not just where the individuals who are themselves affected have kind of shifted. But it seems like the debate around the shutdown not just the kind of political dynamics, but like whether the shutdown it self is in ocare, sustainable, things kind of shifted. And I think part of that is because we don't have any obvious way of how the hell we're getting out of this like it. It seems you know, I think a lot of people who kind of soom this would be doable. Because quick shutdown are kind of like, well, everything that I thought was going to happen to get us out of here has happened. And we're not out. But I think it's also because the first duration of this was kind of a fiscal responsibility, like individual fiscal responsibility debate where you know, some conservatives were saying if you're living paycheck to paycheck, that's irresponsible anyway. So it actually shouldn't be a huge problem. If you miss a paycheck, but we're now, you know, the I missed paycheck was a week ago. The next myspace check is a week from now like the idea that we're not talking about living paycheck to paycheck, but living, you know, two paychecks to paycheck or having a cushion being doing everything right by individual, budgetary standards and still not being able to pay rent or mortgage or put food on the table. That's a problem. And I think people kind of the pundit class RIC. Guardless of their idiological leanings kind of realizes that. This is something that is harming eight hundred thousand households. And I think a lot of that gets shaped, you know, this idea about fiscal responsibility individual responsibility, it gets shaped by who is having the debate. And kind of like how we understand who is a federal employee because I think there is often this conception. It's like cushy job, you know, long pension like hard to fire, but the people you're talking about some of the people who are facing either being furloughed or working on paid are often low wage workers that you do have folks here in Washington who are working on palsy jobs and agencies who, you know, have fun interesting careers, but you also have you if you look at data on the federal workforce, their lowest paying jobs are food preparation, and they're about a half million people who work for the government making about twenty four thousand dollars annually, which is a very very hard salary to accumulate. Any sort of savings on when you know, when you're making significantly more than it is true that federal employees on average are making more than private employees. But that really masks a lot of variation in the salaries that federal players are making, and it's really hard when you're making twenty five, you know, forty thousand dollars a year to actually mass those kind of savings, I would get you through one paycheck possibly like a an entire month worth of miss savings. That's that's a big deal. Right. The last time we talked about shut down a couple of weeks ago Matin, Jane, and we got into a little bit. The idea of you know, what is being constructed as essential work, but that is much less focused on who are the good employees and more. What are the functions of government that liberals are conservatives? Like now that we're at a point where the question isn't who are you forcing to come into work? But how long are you forcing people to have jobs and still not be paid? The question of who is a. Worker becomes much more important and a few pieces of kind of gotten at this a lot of government employees or would be government employees questioning the idea that this is a solid pathway to middle class life like after a half century where the American middle class has been largely hollowed out even though everybody thinks of themselves as middle class. And when you know, the public sector has been buffered from some of the trends Indian ization at cetera that have struck the private sector, the idea that, you know, having eight not just a job, but he career in government is a good steady way to make sure that you know, you will make enough to support your family and have a middle class lifestyle has been really powerful. And so, you know, the big question for me in this episode is kind of what does this shutdown due for that like ease that endanger, even if the government were to reopen tomorrow have people already suffered enough. Yeah. And I think a related aspect of that that that's. Only sort of come into view in the last week or so of the shutdown is how Trump is playing the essential non essential thing differently from the Obama administration that core Bill Clinton before that or even Donald Trump previously in previous shutdowns had been initiated by congress, senators Republican senators by Democrats, but it was always congress who had a certain point pulled the plug said, we're not gonna do a CR we're going to demand policy concessions, and so the president's approach all those cases was make the shutdown as as possible for ordinary Americans within the realm of conscience so shut things down like they put like closed signs above the liberty bell and the Washington body, right? This is a presidentially initiated shutdown. So Trump keeps trying to biddable is the burn adorable people of the shut down and. The biggest example of that is that there were stories about how will the IRS is gonna be able to process tax returns. Right. And people would hate that. So he's declared that some of those IRS workers are going to be essential as they're going to have to come back, and I was talking to somebody who works on Birger review. And you know, I I was told that that she was sort of give it to understand that look if a big Birger were to be applied for that. Her department would be declared essential again. Right. So like they're furloughed right now. But it would be a huge problem for Merican business. If it was possible to get Birger approved and their current thinking is look there on furlough now. But if it becomes really important to corporate America that they go to work unpaid there could be called in to do that. And it's good for American citizens. Right. There is suffering happening in the country because of government closure, but less suffering than would be happening with abort regress. Definite. But it's also jerky the employee's around it a different kind of way simultaneously saying that like we don't value your work as a sensual in the same way that we've Allieu like the cops, right? We're like your essential all the time. But if it becomes like a problem for somebody who I Donald Trump personally care about that are going to call you back in you're going to work without pay. And the whole thing is like that what's the leverage point? The theory seems to be that Democrats will respond to the complaints of the federal civil service by giving into him on the wall or something like that. Right. Like, he's trying to shield ordinary people from the pain, not native Americans, but like inflict pain of the federal civil servants while sort of being like both sided -ly disrespectful of their essential or not essential status where you can come in. You could go home you're not getting paid and their tweet. Stuff about how or there was a ministration official wrote a piece for federal collar. Yeah. There were like, oh, it's good that these people are getting paid, right? And it's it's a really different approach because we've never had a shutout initiated by the president before. So the daily caller op Ed despite not having made much of a splash lake. It wasn't. It was something that was kind of in the Easter. But it wasn't like the focus of elite discourse really does seem to have gone around federal employee circles lake. The number of folks, I've talked to over the last week and shout out to everybody who responded to my half-hearted crowd sourcing on Twitter about this. But like I've had so many federal employees bring up to me. Well, you know, either like they're either saying yes that daily caller up confirmed what we felt like all along that these people are just trying to get rid of us or said. Yeah. Whatever like it was anonymous, screw them. If they don't want me. I'm just gonna stay all the all the more. Like, it gets the big problem here for kind of the idea of federal employment more broadly because whether you're one of the civil servants who is currently being painted by conservatives as non essential useless. It's better if they say home, anyway, although not, you know, it's interesting to me how even the like Grover Norquist types aren't kind of cheering that they're not like out here saying, yes government is striking. It's just this one anonymous dude, or whether you're the kind of employee who is being deemed essential, and is like having to come in every damn day, doing overtime level hours and not getting paid. You know, like the one person in your forty person office who has to be doing the job before people like inferior being told that your work is so essential that you have to be coming in every day despite not being paid. But you're not being treated as an essential enough human being to get paid. It's really calling attention. The fact that going. Into government is for many people the lower income option like they don't necessarily they aren't necessarily doing it. Because it's the most lucrative thing. They can be doing or like, it's not the least demanding thing there. They can be doing. They're doing it because they feel a certain amount of dedication or duty. And that's true to varying extensive among different people. But it's not if an infinite thing like you can't eat your principles for dinner. And so whether you're the sort of employees who like is being attacked in that anonymous op-ed or the sort of employees who like Donald Trump is making a big deal about how brave you are to be on the front lines. You're still not getting paid either way. So the rhetoric is kind of bumping up against reality. In way, that I think is forcing a lot of individual people to call into question like how much do the people who are supposed to be running. The government actually care about me the person whose job it is to like to do the work for them and get paid guess, I think this. Kind of goes big question of these episodes like what does this mean for the civil service term? And what does this mean because I think typically we can look at the government is pretty stable employer. That is not gonna go out of business. You're not gonna like deal with significant like shutdowns are tumbled. Like if you go into a government job. It's probably pretty safe steady job. And I almost break it into a few different categories of workers. Like, I think about the people Darah who, you know, you're talking about who are interested in public service who think it's exciting and interesting to work for the government like maybe the doing policy work. You know, maybe they're doing something. Interesting in Washington. They have already are the type of people who have made the decision that they're gonna earn less than they could and consulting, and possibly, you know, the type of people who have more of a financial cushion. And so I am skeptical of like a Rozhin there because I think people like that have already decided, I'm okay with, you know, the financial the financial hit I'll take working for the government. Because it's a career. I'm interested in, you know, the type of person I kind of wonder about is like let's say someone deciding between job with as a TSA agent airport or some kind of job in private security, and they go either way, and I very I kind of wonder like what it looks like to someone who's thought about becoming a TSA Asia. Did this particular moment watching TSA agents work unpaid for for weeks now, and you I don't I don't know how it affects? What is a pretty significant function of the federal government, and like at that level. I don't think we have great research on it either. Because we just don't have. I mean, this is the longest shutdown that we've had we we don't know what it means for the civil workforce. When you have a shutdown of this length in terms of the long term effects. Fig like a bit overrun of people. Like, there are a lot of lawyers will give the federal government that necessarily in the top policy-making worlds, but it, you know, white collar professional jobs who you aren't good salaries their attorneys, but usually less than what a private sector lawyer bakes, but the understanding is that you get to work aboard reasonable schedule. Oftentimes, right. Like, that's what reason a lot of people do those jobs. No. Of course, they like it right this. There's a lot of different areas. People go into areas of law and policy that they're interested, but they're not necessarily like political people per se. They're educated people look to do skilled work, but not to have the sort of crazy, schedule of private sector client service type work. Right. And this really undermines the big value that the government can offer people which is stability and predictability in those terms. Right. Like because you're now. Suddenly, you know, your throat for for a loop. Right. It's like these shutouts had become this thing that happens like by door Neue. But now, it's like, oh, no, this is actually really bad. Right. Like, I actually don't have a stable paycheck that by family could count on. Right. And that undermines a lot of this also people who worked the private sector in the management consulting world. And now have God they worked for the government, and they do things like Purchasing Management, which again, it's a similar thing. Like they've taken lower salaries still okay salaries, but less than what they were making. But it exchanged the do less travel. They work more normal hours. But now your situation to get and this is like people do a lot with they have kids. Right. They rethink their priorities of what do I really need? But again, your situation where like maybe this wasn't such a good decision. Right. Like people who were not like fanatically committed to do a government work, but who are competent people at it just seemed like. Attractive job proposition, and our baby doesn't seem like such try just depress here like what's the what's the other like option on the table there. You know, because you still have like it's not like the high-powered law firms are getting more flexible. Sure, it seems like this is like a less likely when you know, like a high-powered law firm, you're going to have these crazy hours. It's still seems like more reliable, but things just happened at the mortgage. There's there's nonprofits. So they're smaller firms, you I don't know how so much that happens with Trump like, I think we just don't know exactly until we know how this story ED's four-month shutdown. Then it's like, well that doesn't seem like a very relaxed could in theory tomorrow, the people who I've talked to actually like are in this position. And this definitely was something that came up in a couple of messages, I've received from people like in this is people who have been in government for like ten years dozen years. Like, they definitely thought that this was going to be there like mid career. Career thing. And yet, you're it's not like you are going to have better hours somewhere else. But you thought that the reason you were giving up a certain amount of not just salary, but like flexibility like after a certain amount of time in government, it's harder to get hired outside government. And so, you know, you were essentially giving up a lot of things that you would consider career Embiid wins in order to be able to leave for the office. Go into work come home at a reasonable hour and play with your kids like that idea of the middle class lifestyle not as being defined by income, but as being defined by like, you know, that the job is there. But the job is not always haunting you seems really alien to me is a journalist especially at journalists in the Trump era because like literally last night at ten thirty, you know, BuzzFeed broke, what could be the biggest story of the Trump administration. Who knows like, that's that's actually really good. It's it's yeah. We too. Right. Exactly. Like, that's and that's just how. But that's how life is for us. Like, it is kind of our job to constantly be on just in case. Big news happening. That's not the way most people want to live their lives, and to the extent that you can actually segregate work from life and still be able to make a decent living. Like, I think that that's an underrated aspect of the mid century middle middle-class ideal that people have kind of fallen out of with like less security and jobs, less reliable hours needing to work multiple jobs needing to do gig work. Like a lot of what we consider precarity is really lack of control over time. And if you're saying that, yeah, you could be making more money in the private sector. But what you've decided is that you value time instability. Like that is absolutely. It's not just that the current shutdown is a month. It's that people kind of feel like this is demonstrated. This kind of thing could keep going or even like some of the folks I talked to were like look between the fact that we were operating on CR's for the last year. And now this I don't even know if you know like my contract will be renewed. I don't know if this thing is going to continue to work going forward. Like, I don't know how we're going to be able to hire anybody. So a lot of the promises of predictability that like are reasonable thing to make a career decision based on are getting your rooted by of well who knows when the government will shut down the next surprised that we haven't heard more from federal law enforcement personnel because there's a pretty obvious fungibility between like a career at the DA at a career in a state police force, or you know, this this billion police agencies in the United States. And I think the federal ones are generally considered prestigious, right, and like jobs, he would want to get if you're into policing just being told to do it danger. Chris job without pay for no reason, by it in particular in this case by president who does say, he values your work seems like we're. That's why are d agents dot getting paid. But what what is the what is the point of that? You know, even heard what person I mean? This was a joke. I think, but you know. Trump has been paranoid for throughout his entire presidency about the idea that the deep state is leaking against him. And now here he is just like not paying the whole FBI their salaries like that's crazy. Like, why are you doing that? Right. And you know, there there's like very obvious career alternative. I have never heard of a city just like not paying its police department for an extended period of time. 'cause like what would you do that? Right. It's completely ridiculous. And it's just the idea arose. This would be a useful political tactic for some reason. Even though there's no there's ever been any reason to think that it is right? And as far as I know people don't do it at other levels of government. I mean, I guess they could just say like what we're not gonna pay any police officers until I get my way on something about bus lades. But like it never happens because it's absurd and now it's clearly normalized federal government, very strange. Right. Like, I think this kind of. It would be very weird at a city level to say, we're not paying anyone. But like you people are -sential. So you stay on because there's no norms around that. And I could easily see in that case. Like, I don't know if like Baltimore decided, you know, we're in a budget issue. You know, sitting -ployees our offer now because we can't come up with the budget, but police officers you'll still be on the streets tracks, I think like you have to pay people. It would just I mean, there's like Norma round it. But you know, I think one of the things like good point you bring up Matt is one of things are seeing right now is this shift in a sensuality to make things run a little bit smoother. So you see it, you know, like person you're messing mentioned with mergers. You see the FDA bringing some people back to do inspections because they're worried about safety in a way that you know, it's going to make it short term, less painful for the rest of us, hopefully, less food outbreaks which will be like a thing I value as someone who needs food in the United States. But. Long term. You know, it just makes it easier for this this to last I think for a while there's a bit of a theory going around that the place where the shutdown would end is if TSA agents weren't showing up to work, and you had massive lines, and everyone would be so frustrated with air travel, particularly like, you know, people in positions of power who travel a lot that would kind of bring this to a close. And I remember saying there's a CNN reporter who had like this viral video of crazy long line in the airport. But it hasn't really played out that way at all, you know, us there have been you've been looking at some of the stuff with like TSA, call outs and sick days. It doesn't actually down like they were. I think a lot of the press around this happened when they put out the stats for Monday. But Monday for a lot of major east coast airports was like, yeah. There was also a man's good weather related reason not to show up to work. So like call rates are now they're higher than they were this time last year but not by ton. We're talking like five percent versus four. Three percent. Like, we're not talking about the kind of like massive sick outs. That people were worried about a lot of I think like slippery thinking about this like every time on Twitter. I see like a journalist goes to an airport and this unusually large security line there like maybe the shutout think about the hundred largest airports states, right like on any given day. Fifteen of them are going to be experiencing like one standard deviation, the normal level of security lines like it's just going to happen. Like, they're going to be unusually large lines. There's going to be some places right somewhere in America. There's an unusually large number of sick people today. Right. 'cause like that's just what happens is a big country. And it's interesting. There was the hunt abyss legislator, you know, in one of these newspaper articles who was like the only way to bring this to an end is for the TSA to go on strike. You know, it's such a Wild Thing. Right. Because it's illegal for them to go on strike, right? Which I think why we don't the the other thing we should talk about talk about like local police forces like the it is not literally. I mean, it's in some states. It is illegal for certain kinds of public employees to go on strike. But like it is not as a general rule illegal for any public employees to strike, but it had become dorm allies in the sixties and seventies for federal workers to occasionally stage illegal wildcat strikes, and it was mostly tolerated by the federal government and the very famously right in his first year at office. Ronald Reagan responded to an illegal wildcat strike by air traffic control workers by firing them. All and you know, they had thought at the time like well. What's he gonna do is? He gonna fire all the air traffic controllers that America it. He did get a bid disruptive problem for about a week. Fifty percent. Of flights were cancelled. There were some people who did go out on strike. Even though the call the strike there were badgers and stuff who had the technical skills. They brought some people in for military air, traffic, control. They had people work extra shifts. They started hiring more people. And they got the system that up run. They broke the union. The author said to pig powerful message to unions in the private sector, and the public sector that like the government was not going to be kidding around that this was due Republican administration that lasted twelve years and foot dementia changed the culture in the United States. And now, you have Republicans themselves kind of saying quietly that like they would kind of like to see illegal labor action to force Donald Trump's hand because they personally don't wanna risk their own jobs by taking Donald Trump because they'd be risking primary said you'd think. About it. Right. It's like, look if you're Republican Senator could you go up against Donald Trump. And you lose your primary worst case scenario is you get a huge pay raise to go. Be an episode. We see host Jeff flakes. Life is so good. It is United like it is outrageous like how high the Haag you get to live by just like taking your career as a Republican Senator like the lowest bar is held out free. Right. Like short. I didn't do anything to stop any of these bad things. But I did complain about in a high profile way people like, oh, you're such a hero. Jeff like, it's amazing TSA worker or an air traffic controller you stage daily strike, you'll get fired by Donald Trump. You get barred for renewed federal employment forever. I mean, Bill Clinton eventually reinstated them, but like there's no guarantees there. Nobody's giving you a book deal or cable news show. You're not gonna get a lobbying job. Like this a big big big risk. I would be. Supportive of some kind of billeted labor action like that. But that's to say like, I would be supportive of firing people for doing it. Like, I I would have your bags. But I also totally understand. Why people don't want to do it? Like, it's not in my power to save your job. It would be up to Donald Trump. And Furthermore, like the people who would be organizing such a strike would be the government unions like as institutions have a ton to lose if the government plays hardball lake, they, you know, if you're literal union existence is being like, the association of federal government employees federal government decides that it's going to d- recognize you as a union because you engaged in an illegal strike by coordinating, all your employees like that's not good for your existing. But it, but that's literally what unions like if only there were some kind of institution that could coordinate among federal employees and get them to stay home. Like, wait. I mean, exactly. So you have this situation where? Unfortunately, a lot of things have been done between banning strikes. Reagan sort of putting teeth on that Trump using the essential this to actually keep things running mostly that have cushioned the blow of this on people. But I'm afraid it makes catastrophic failure were likely you'd already be like if you had a situation where the day after the first skip paycheck, the TSA workers all walked out with confidence that they could be fired. Then you would have a big two day disruption of American air travel, and the government would we open, and we would have nobody would Dopp it a scenario like that. But if you'd said have a situation where everyone is really trying the whole thing is being held together with like spit and glue and everybody mostly is doing their job. But maybe some people are getting other jobs or just leaving or. Doing whatever. But like, nobody's breaking the rules. Nobody is staging a big symbolic like this needs to stop. Then you're risking that. Like similar nobody wants to see go wrong. Does go wrong. And like, that's unfortunate. Well, no way. It reminds me of the sequester twenty thirteen where you know, we had this. If you think back to then they're supposed to be this big Murray Ryan budget deal. And the idea was if they couldn't reach a deal, then you have this terrible thing called the sequester just be really across the board blunt cuts, and this acqua stir was going to be the thing that was going to force congressional action because it would just be so terrible to have this cost cutting happen in indelicate way, in a way where everything is getting cut. But then deal didn't happen the sequester took the place, but it was across the board. But the cuts were not so crazy dress tick that they caused people like q. Charm that we like, okay. Like like. Like this like huge bludgeoning tool. But it's it feels like a little bit like this quest shutdown question. Right. So with this question head there was a problem at airports, and what happened was is that like air travel is fascinating is like if I think about it. I was going through my twenty right? I would to say Tokyo twice. I went to Brooklyn bay. And I went on vacation in Madrid. I went to Austin, I went to Rochester. I went to Syracuse, and that's me seven flights. That's be thinking of myself as somebody who has really cut down on travel since I had a kid the media American takes zero played flights per year. So there's a very skewed distribution which like you don't need to be part of like, hyper elite to fly a lot. But it's it's it's like a bass, ily flies all the time. And so when there's problems at airports, it's like people who matter like really flip out. And that happened during the sequester, right? And what was supposed to happen was like a ha the paid is hitting. Now, we have to relieve the sequester, but instead congress did a patch specifically for the airports, and so like other things it's kind of like the rea- centralizing version of what's going into things that are more insidious like a loss of preschool places for low income children just went down because that was considered tolerable because they fixed the sort of most acute thing. And that's what we have going on here. Right. Like if you had it being that like corporate America was saying wait, we're not gonna be able to do anything, right or like tax refunds aren't gonna go out and the retail sector is gonna crash than by get reopened. But now it's like, quote unquote old Lee, the native American health service. That's being totally disrupted. It's just hundreds of thousands of people not getting their paychecks. It's not anything like too bad. And it would really matters going to have their problem taking care of. And that's just like de. Stating for the interests of the lots of people who don't have the kind of poll in Washington that people who need their burgers. Right. I mean, this is a fundamental question in public policy, right? Like, there are some policies that are matters of concentrated benefit and diffuse costs, and there are some policies that are matters of diffuse benefits and concentrated costs. And like the shutdown is we've seen it. So far has been a matter of somewhat concentrated costs that are being addressed by concentrating them by like by kind of sloughing off some of the people who are bearing costs and reducing the number of people who are those costs more. So like, it's not that federal employees are more screwed than the people who are not getting better more screw than they were at the beginning of the shutdown except insofar as their spending down their savings, but they are in a position where it is more likely that they will continue to be screwed because there aren't a whole lot of other people who aren't federal employees who are also in the. Bucket of oh, this thing that I really need isn't happening. It's not a great situation for policy-making. It's specially not a great situation for policy-making. When those people don't have the kind of levers to pull that other groups to like, if they don't have the same labor rights that private sector employees would or if they don't have the kind of public cachet to be able to come out and say, look our jobs really are important, and we do care about them. And that's why we're not leaving virus showing up to work. But there's only so long. We can do this for like, I think I want to circle back to the law enforcement point because right now between the first and second miss paychecks. Like, I was hearing a little bit of. You know, concern from people like we don't really know what's going to happen. Once the I miss paycheck hits. And then after that, it was kind of like, wow, people are are weathering this. They're like gritting their teeth and bearing it better than expected. But the second paycheck is really really gonna hurt like in this this appears to be an attitude shared across federal law enforcement. There's a really good Washington Post piece that digs into the federal law enforcement agents that you were talking about mad like the FBI folks who, you know, for one thing doing FBI investigative work is not just a matter of salary like apparently of people are complaining that they can't pay informants because that's money that they don't have. But also somebody works without his working without pay in the budget realm of that was telling me that like the they've got some extra money, but but it may run out, and there's definitely something up, and this is and this is something that the tried to do that. I think I think there are a lot of you know. Mid to high level bureaucrats in in shutdown agency is right now trying to figure out what the hell they can do to like get money to their frontline people who are doing the work and not getting paid. And you know, like because the bureau the the higher level bureaucrats believe in the mission of the agency they wanna make sure that the people carrying out the agencies work feel respected. But. The sense. There is really like it's getting worse. But it's getting worse than a much grad mature gradual sense like the harm of this is being individualized in a big way like individual people are working out like how do I make my family's budget or making in the case of the F B I requests for external work, which traditionally the bureau has declined. But like now they're trying to facilitate so that people can actually keep their jobs while making some money on the side when it's that individual at a process, you're not thinking of it as a political problem, you're thinking of it as an individual budgetary problem. And so you don't even have the time to be like calling your member of congress and saying, hey, I'm a constituent, and I'm not being paid please end this. You're busy trying to make sure that you have enough money to pay your monthly fees. Other to be clear, the the FBI agents association has called for the government to be reopened. Oh, yeah. And they and the and other federal unions are currently suing the government in a case like they they didn't get the injunction that they wanted, but that's gonna continue to go through the courts because as it turns out there is in fact, a federal statute with criminal penalties mind, you that prohibits government officials from making people work for free essentially, so it's called the anti-deficiency act. There's a really good primer on this from the American action forum that will put an show notes. It is going to be very interesting when and if government reopens to see if reporting gets made. On the anti-deficiency act from people who have been made to work without pay during some of this lake. Are you essential or aren't you stuff? But yeah, it's not like the FBI employment. Associations aren't doing anything. But individual the individual people who are bearing the brunt of the concentrated costs can't necessarily do as much to take collective action as they would if they were just totally furloughed, but political center of gravity of this is the border patrol council, right because part of the setup to this whole scenario across twenty eighteen was Republican congressional leaders to want to go down this shutdown path. And so they worked with Democrats to get appropriations bills structure such that a shutdown. If it happened would involve defunding the department of homeland security, which doesn't make sense. Logically or politically because the people who are Trump sort of validates of the border are I wouldn't quite they're not the political appointees at department of homeland security. They are the union leaders who putatively represent the views of reconcile Puerto patrol agents. And they have been standing by Trump on this subject. Right. If they were to flip flop and say, look like we want more buddy about like all things considered. It would be better to reopen. The government and continue to go. She's then Trump would really not have like a leg to stand and particular also congressional Republicans who kind of baby wanna turn on Trump would have great leg to stay nod. But they haven't done that. And I have heard from a lot of people who are not in a position to know just like random liberals have like wish cast in their head the idea that like probably these union leaders don't represent the views of. And file border patrol agents. I guess that could be true. But I have not seen any indication that it's true unions have internal leadership politics at a thing that does happen. Sometimes is that a dissident movement arises inside the union where somebody says, hey, the leadership is not representing the interests of the rank and file and the kind of scenario that's played out is actually quite typical what right like sometimes. Judy leaders are seed as selling out the concrete material interests of reconcile bed. Bers it exchange for political influence, right? This happens of public sector to the private sector to right because you use wear different hats in world. Right. And so it's a very typical kind of complaint against the company leadership to say like, look, they are baking nice with important politicians in ways that benefit that personally. But don't benefit you would be. So that's why we need a new executive council. I just don't see that happening. Right. Like could. Happen. I assume that if the shutout happens forever, right like, the there's some limited point at which somebody says like, hey, guys, like, this doesn't make sense. But I mean, if there's been a peep of it like I have missed there is no dissident border council Twitter feed. Like, there's no there's no active organizing against the current leadership in the union and the currently ship in the union is seems to feel that it is fine for its members to not get paid. If that's what it takes to get a five billion dollar appropriation for steel slats. Yeah. I mean, I don't have a ton more insight into a national border patrol council dynamics cut, then you do Matt. So like, I genuinely don't know one way or the other if there's any like grumbling on private maybe they're secretly. But what I will say is the way that the you know, we talked about this a little bit two weeks ago. I've written about this. The way that the NBC leadership has kind of managed to go from not just an ideologue fairly ideological union leadership. But to a very close ally of the current president of the United States is that they've traded on the fact that border patrol generally has fairly low morale, and they've you know, kind of unified the bread and butter concerns in that morale with the idea that the border patrol agents weren't being respected by DC bureaucrats. We're telling them how to do their job and the second part of that makes it very appealing to support a president who says I really want border patrol agents to be able to do their job. But there haven't been a lot of circumstances where that's cutting against the bread and butter interests. Like, there was a little bit of a, you know law. Hypocrisy kerfuffle like last week when somebody pointed out an old page on the border patrol union website that said we don't need border walls, which lake it was much more. A we need personnel and technology as much as we need border walls. But also, yeah, there's no. Bread-and-butter union interest in a border wall per se, but there is a bread and butter union interest in their continuing to be a lot of emphasis on people staffing the border. And so if those things actually cut against each other in so far as a lot of border patrol agents. Are you know, again, like coming up on missing the second paycheck, even people who are idiological aligned in general with the president and with union leadership like this where you know, it comes back to you can't eat principles. I think there is you know, as in any institution, there's a spectrum between people who are just doing border patrol work for the paycheck and people who are like absolutely super gung ho would do this for free. If they could the longer shutdown goes on the more of those people start seeing their lack of getting paid, not as a political battle. But as a paycheck battle in. So I don't think like I don't see an NBC coup happening anytime soon, but I do think it's worth noting that after that like the big, you know, White House press conference with union leader. Ship was two weeks ago at this point like they haven't been as much out there, you're not necessarily. You're not seeing the same kind of visibility backing up Trump now that it's an actual paycheck. Plus on the line one space of this. We haven't even talked about is this whole world of contractors who are also on hold because I think that's one place where you could also where you could really see the erosion of service. I think it's a harder place to kind of pinpoint what is actually happening. The Washington Post report that you have about ten thousand different businesses who are contracting with the federal government. But that's a place where there's no guarantee of getting paid back. I believe I'm Tina Smith. The Senator from Minnesota has a Bill that would get contractors repaid. I don't know that it's moving anywhere, especially quickly. But that is definitely a place where I think these workforce challenges could end, I would contracts a huge part of government. If people sitting in federal. Buildings who are not employees of the government, but employees have some kind of contractor. They've bought in to work with I feel like contract work becomes a like federal government work becomes a little less repealing working for contract worker becomes a whole lot less appealing. You know, not just with this being out of with literally losing your paychecks in a way, the federal government isn't going to and they're they're different versions of this. There are people who work for like food service outsourcing companies, right, and, you know, low skill low wage workers and those guys to be just like SOL this situation. Right. And then there are people who do their like, computer programmers work for companies that do contract work for the federal government. Those contracts are put on hold. But that the companies have to decide like they can do what they want keep paying people and major cities that both cases they have simply continued to pay people maybe fighting. Else to do maybe not because you don't wanna lose your staff. Right. But that's situation becomes a terrible at a certain point. You can't pay people to just not do anything just cured DC. Right. Nobody is telling places that serve ledge downtown that they can't make money. But if people don't show up to work, and the people who are showing up to work are eating to pitch their Pettis a little bit more. You just don't go get blush. So Stu and yourself to pay rent to your landlord, and like nobody is going to pay back like the same shop. Right. Like this prospect of that they're just sort of random casualties of events Donald Trump himself. This was this was the day after Christmas when not a lot of people focused on the shutout. But but he explicitly said on Twitter, do Dem's realized that most of the people not getting paid or Democrats. So like the shutouts fine by him because the people suffering are members of the opposition party. I'd like I don't know you don't like EV. We would sit awhile like a total Rando Twitter Bill would've said so the two thousand seventeen like these red states are get what they deserve. Trump takes their healthcare way. Like, everybody would denounce them. We've heard this from leaders of political movement that like the interests at wellbeing of people who live in the district of Columbia or the Virginia don't count because like ecologically these are Democratic Party voting members of of the country, and it's just a signpost of like really how I just think fundamentally depraved a lot of the the leadership in the current Republican party is that like that's controversial way to think about your job as a government political leader. And I would have mentioned that regard the. Absurdity of this congressional delegation cancellation that Trump has offered here because you this thing where like we could argue I suppose like how important is it really that members of congress be able to visit American military installations abroad. But it's a thing that the government is traditionally seat is important debilitating salaciously exist American far policies important, congress is like a portent part of the government people wanted to what's going on and Trump shut that down for the click for no reason at all right? I don't think he even gave a like official rationale for why it has to be done. Like, obviously, we know the reason is like vigils for dizzy Pelosi, pulling this stuck with the state of the union. But like the defense department is funded right? There's nothing about the legislative branch right about the shutdown that required this, right? There were so explanation, given its I guess within the president's of thirty as the commander in chief to to do this. But like it's crazy add like, you know, the idea that it hurts. Adam Schiff is very bisque guided this is a very Trump thing. Right. And if you think about it like visit posied Adam Schiff, we're actually in a tough situation as of two days ago, which was it's probably not actually great look for democratic members of congress to be like tore the middle of the shutout. But it's also great to like cancel your trip to go beat with the troops. A great. Thing to do would be to just have the president for no good reason for su- to cancel your trip to beat the troops. Because now you wanted to see the troops. But you could but also you're in town working shutdown, and then the administration not having thought this through started getting questions about the Treasury Department's proposed a junket to Switzerland, and they sheepishly wound up to cancel that to just don't look like assholes. But so now, it's like, Steve, I don't, you know, I I've never been to the world forum in Davos, but I'm a little invited EVA's. They should because I told by people who go that even though it's stupid is actually quite fun. That is why people go I assume that is why the Trump administration had all these people who wanted to go now. So like their vacation is cancelled. And it's like it's just like it's sort of unfathomable that you would have decision bake just this shoddy. Yeah, I mean, I would love to think that Adam Schiff Al are like. Like not going to care about the cancellation of junkets in with all due respect to elected officials. My understanding of members of congress is that they are all divas who consider any lake slate to them personally as the this tantamount to a slight against every one of their constituents. But you know, I want to circle back a little bit to what you were saying about contractors mad because I think that this kind of does seem striking to me that despite the kind of occasional folk saying, it doesn't matter that they're Democrats like there hasn't been the principled small government defense of what's going on right now. Because most of the people who are like principles mall government defenders, either a no that this wasn't supposed to be how it was supposed to go. Like, you know, a lot of Donald Trump supporters think that the obvious outcome. Here's for Democrats cave. So that Trump can get wall money and the government can get reopened again, like they're not routing for continued stalemate. But also because people who believe in. In small government for the sake of preserving business, and we were gonna have this two weeks ago like believe in government running predictably and as fishing as possible, which means you have to have a small number, but like competent and talented employees. You have to you know, to the extent that it's cheaper to pay one person eight good salary than to pay two people like slightly less. Good salaries that you still have to pay like pay for benefits for you actually, do have a certain premium on hiring talented people in being competitive with private sector jobs. Like, the reason that the kind of new liberal tech centrist types have started kind of talking about like smart government and thinking about public private, you know, getting people into public service, and there was his way of under the Obama administration of, you know, getting young digital employee's into government was that a lot of centrist business type interests understand the value of having a sm-. Small government that runs smoothly inefficiently and part of that is to have in contractors do a lot of that work because contractors give you flexibility without like committing you to a whole hiring infrastructure. If you're in a world where contractors are being so badly jerked around that there's a good question about whether you continue to go up for federal contracts. That's not that's not good for the continued flexibility of the federal government. If you have the people who are most talented getting offers from the private sector, and like updating their resumes that is not good for a small, but officiant federal government. And so, you know, obviously, no one is trying to remake the federal workforce from scratch, but it's definitely worth thinking about from the perspective of just a good and efficient government that does what it is being instructed to do by the politic by the political officials. Well, no one wants anything that we're looking at right now, it is just everybody's worst case scenario. And it's going to continue until something happens to break the stalemate. I don't know what the something is. Donald Trump steadily falling approval rating may I don't know. I just don't know this something was most to be airport disasters like the something is becoming increasingly elusive. Maybe it is falling approval. Approval numbers. I mean, actually thinking back to you know, what we were saying at the beginning of the episode is that they've really does seem to be a change at this point. Like, there is something this is where we've started noticing the fading approval ratings. We are starting to hear the kind of White House from the -nology stories with unnamed advisors telling the president, this isn't a messaging war anymore. You're playing with live ammunition. Like, it does appear that even as we. And I think a lot of the furloughed federal employees have gone will this week proves that like this is going to go on forever that kind of fatalism about. Wow. We don't know how this is going to end has panicked some people into saying, oh, it's actually oughta slate nothing is going to happen unless we figure out how to stop people from just being not paid indefinitely. Well, if you're gonna be ideas, let us face. The Facebook group. Sure Facebook groups cetacea bail, give us some tweets. Otherwise, you know, we will just have to see what happens. It's it's an endless series of wonders here, the Trump era at it really never stops. So with that thanks to all you there for for listening. Thank you to Sara for would leading on a Friday episode. Thanks, Jeff geld, our producer the weeds will return on Tuesday.
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