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11 Gems for Fully Raw Emotional Healing with FullyRaw Kristina

Your Own Magic

1:12:58 hr | 8 months ago

11 Gems for Fully Raw Emotional Healing with FullyRaw Kristina

"We live in a society where people are terrified of their own emotions. They are so terrified of opening up that Pandora's box because they're afraid of what might happen if they actually address a problem. Most people live in avoidance. They lived to numb themselves and by Phnom. I mean like can be on certain extremes whether or not you are addicted to certain kinds of junk foods or alcohol or drugs like like. I said there's different extremes but we live in a society that's conditioned to Mallet. The magic begin. Hello Hello Soul tribe. It's Raquel and I hope you were having an amazing pisces moment. Yes yes we are in the seas so I had one of my favorite Pacey Babes. Actually that's not fair for me to say because a lot of my friends are high seas. A lot of you are pasties. But she truly is one of my best friends. Her name Christina Cardio Bokram also known as fully rock Christina online because she basically pioneered the raw vegan movement on the Web's as in online on Youtube originally end just inspires more people to eat raw vegan meals for every meal or even just one meal a day for a variety of reasons. But guess what? That's actually not why she's here. We don't even really talk about food. We do a little bit at the end and a little bit in the beginning because we were talking about alleviating constipation something. I was dealing with something we all deal with. Hello why not learn how to naturally relieve it the way Christina with alleviate it so that's also a fair warning for the very beginning of the episode. Actually this was a very spontaneous episode. I was thinking of her and she sent me a little tax. Yuna how this universe works and so we were just chit chatting joking around about life another fair warning as it has to do with a particular phallic shaped radish but she takes me and then I remember also seeing a new video of hers. Come up on my recommended youtube page and it was on how she overcame failure and dealt with disappointment and just healing emotional trauma full of eleven gems end though when we said that we are going to record an episode. We didn't really know what we would end up talking about. I figured might as well talk about that because these are not some tips that she just heard from someone else or read online. These are actually tools that I've witnessed her apply over the course of four or five years and for ten years. Actually but what? I've been able to see just her transformation in applying these tools using these tools. That really really did help her. And so I hope that some of it might ring true for you and if it's hard to apply all eleven out once indeed. Just begin to trickle in a few and of course I ask her for you. Know her favorite Ravi Towards the end of the episode. But really this was more about talking about fully raw emotions fully raw emotional hewing and ooh. That's one minute title is episode yet so I hope that you enjoy all of that. And if you enjoy this episode please share it on your Insta- story or just send her a d. m. in either case she's likely going to see it. She loves connecting. And so if you you know send her a little thank you note. She'll probably see it and be so delighted that you reached out and her. Instagram is at fully Ross Christina Christina with a K. I will leave the link to connect with her in the show notes. Also this is like the third or fourth time. She's been on the podcast. I Dunno but she's been on here quite a bit and I love that I leave her past episodes up in the show notes as well for you and also WanNa send a thank you to the amazing subscribers who have recently centene reviews. I have read all one from New Zealand from Shar necks. Oh another from Mattie. Yates and then. Thank you Morgan. J for leaving your instagram so I can go follow you. A Morgan Johnston. I also appreciate your time in even though I know it only takes a minute or two but leaving a review truly helps us podcast so much. I'm so excited. In a few weeks I will be in Sedona with the twenty four twenty five gals who are attending the re tree plus Brie and my girl. Lindsay who assisted the last retreat. I am so excited and I was about to announce another Bali one. Keep a lookout in your EM- boxes. In your spam inboxes or on my story or on the site this week next week. The next retreat will be announced and I sent to those of you who have asked to receive that information. I anyway again. Thank you guys so much if you WANNA leave a review and of course. You're edgy as well so I know who you are. Feel free to do that again. Means the world so now with all of that being said I believe it is time to let the magic begin but Christina. Cardio Bucaram K. Big K B. Did you I? Do you want to hear something funny? I just finished filming a youtube video for a instant way to eliminate constipation. Now I had way too much fiber yesterday. So guess what I'm dealing with today. The blow like way too much drink one cup of pure beet juice like fresh juice like and I'm not making any plans tonight. I had to drink it on camera just like you know. Save face a no. It's it's pretty sweet. I like the taste of beat us. It's just really funny. Because my hands are add. My tongue is red and like all of a sudden I felt my stomach gurgling. Committed go on like I give myself two hours before I'm totally. Pooping my brains out for the rest of good to know. I don't have a juicer here but I can just go to whole foods. Ask for Juice please there's other juice Mars Yes the have the make it for you because it has to be only beet juice in like about a cup of it. You know like freshly made. Have you ever had prune juice because when I used to deal with the constipation as a child I know I have for whatever reason though Prune Juice Kinda makes me gag a little bit like it's I don't know I handle beet juice better think this is amazing because I love the juice thanks I did? That is very exciting. I go by prunes because I haven't been this concentrated in. Its that's so crazy. Bring up by literally. Haven't been this constipated a long time. I had a lot of fiber yesterday. Like Allot Enou. I'm feeling my her chain. Need Valley road need a little bit later. Rub and it's interesting. It's like it kind of makes you a little brain foggy. I was going into right something today and I was just like. I'm just not inspired right now. You actually came to mind was like you know I never ever had the episode Christina and then you know I was just going back into my writing and you take me about whatever we were talking about my radish. Pena's well I don't know if you're gonNA include this in the pike as but I'll just let people know because I had to reform the video you're going to include okay so I had to include. I was filming a video juice recipe. And it's basically a cold and flu Jew shot remedy. Because you know it's a change of seasons. Everybody seems to be sick right now so I did a recipe. It's like a very sweet and spicy recipe. But it cleans out your mucus. It's very strong. It's got radish garlic Jalapeno and a bunch of other very Warming things and you know I got this local giant radish that lake erectile okay. I didn't realize that it looked like this until I had it right in front of me in a bowl. And did the intro to the video. I still behold video without noticing this and then this morning I started editing. Not Kidding I was standing right in front of the radish that was like pointed upward amused and snow and I had to Redo the whole video is like it'd probably the best blooper of all time that no one will ever see. I couldn't I couldn't have planned it to be awful if I tried. But it was so bad it was good. I mean everybody in my family and you will you and me. We had such funny laugh about it a wipe Conrad Video. You would have so much money to those trolls out there. That make you videos on stuff like this. I'm telling you I was gold. It was just glad I caught him. Before you know it's just so inappropriate especially since the sponsor video to be honest it would be kind of funny if you were to like post it and then poke fun at it for a second yourself. But I don't know what your audience is humorously and Gosh. You're safe here though I'll tell you I'm saying here. Thank you everybody for you for listening with compassion as we speak about this for her but honestly it's just the reality that happens sometimes when you fell and there's certain things that you don't see until you start editing like my gosh. Oh yeah anyway so good speaking of Youtube you know you came up on my recommendation page. I'm like Mug Girl Ma Baby. It was on how to overcome failure deal with disappointment and he'll emotional trauma and I was like. Oh my gosh in just what eighteen minutes and forty four seconds? You pretty much summed up this entire mental spiritual journey that I've been able to witness you go through the past like five years in. This is your life for the past ten years and I was like. There's so much gold in here that of course it's hard to elaborate on a youtube video for yourself without making it like a full movie because you've been through so much so there's so much gold in this eighteen minute and forty for a second video because it's so true in how it's helped you mentally spiritually. Yeah I just want you. I'm so proud of you thank you. It's it's funny because it's like having you here so comfortable because they can't I mean for those of you who don't know for Kellen. I have spent so much time together and Bali and there were just when I was really going through it like after having lost my co op. And no my gosh. Just I went through the ringer. Like I've just been through so much especially the past ten years and I feel like Raquel. You and I have talked about so many of these things but I haven't put them in a video and I probably spent about two weeks preparing like writing those points for the video. I do you feel like. It's a bit ironic. That youtube sent me some kind of notification. Saying this is your least watched video of all time and I was like screw your your to. I don't care but it was like I. I think it's actually kind of interesting because you know. People are used to seeing recipes from the air like inspirational health content or or whatnot. But sometimes I feel like it's always the most important messages that we shared. That are the ones that are least heard and gathers like in this video. There's just so much in it like gems that can really. I don't know if you want to expand on that definitely do of course you are publicly known for helping people out with their physical health an inspiring people to eat more. Ravi food or to go fully raw. Yeah so it makes sense why that would be released. Watch video because people there they love to go to you for your recipes in Yada Yada there. Your audience might not be seeking anything for helping out with anxiety or Failure depression emotional trauma. You name it you know. Yeah and so when I mean that's probably the only reason I can think of it Because that's not really in their algorithm for their a recent video to recommend them but so I don't think that that has to do with their lack of interest in you but of course because of whatever you've been through the beginning of it is how to overcome failure which everybody deals with. It's like the mind would. Perhaps I go to that but you somehow still are looking at this as a gem as a piece of gold because you know how valuable it is and I'm not trying to promote your video and we're going to talk about these lesson I will. We'll just like for those of you who haven't seen it. My first point that I talk about is feel it to free it and I think this is very in in alignment with what you do Raquel. Because you're always guiding people back home to themselves right into the feeling self you know your journey you know oftentimes society like I'm GonNa go ahead and just like relate this to food or addiction but we live in a society where people are terrified of their own emotions. They are so terrified of opening up that Pandora's box because they're afraid of what might happen if they actually address a problem. Most people live and avoidance. They lived to numb themselves. And by now I mean like can be on certain extremes by whether or not you are addicted to certain kinds of joke foods or alcohol or drugs like like. I said there's different extremes but we live in a society that's conditioned to numbing itself and It's really sad right. Very few people walk around feeling their emotions and expressing them and I think a part of my journey when I went raw vegan eating all these raw foods all these raw emotions came up for me and I couldn't for the life of myself figure out. What I- whistling right it was like. I knew I was feeling crazy but I couldn't identify what anger was a resentment or anxiety or these things and it wasn't until I took Marshall Rosenberg's course non violent communication that I had to sit down with his book and a list of emotions and start pinpointing what I was in what I needed to help you overcome some of these emotions or to shift them or to transform them and going through. That process really helped me understand the power of vulnerability because as soon as you really feel something and move through it. It's kind of like you release it. You free it it just Kinda like escapes from your body rather than like walking around and holding onto this thing for years and years and years which as we know you and I both know that emotions negative emotions that are held in the body can create disease as well so learning how to work on the emotional component is as valuable as working on the physical component as well like everybody wants to get healthy and lose weight and you know work on the physical self but you can't work on the physical without having the mental component. Be there as well and Yeah fully raw isn't just about the food. I cry in public now like I cry on planes. I cry in public venues and I like so proud of it when it happens. A full on displays of mobile vulnerability do not go my poor boyfriend cash. But you know what I feel so much better when I do and to my surprise some people might give you weird looks but people get it because people who are woke they they get it right and and most people probably wish they could open up and feel things like that. They're just too scared. There are just too scared to feel it because it does go hand in hand being able to honor your mental health and your physical that all has to do with your spiritual wealth and so I just so honor you for doing that in for being able to now cry in public. That's that's the thing that you know. I even struggle with for sure. I regardless of our Madame Journey. It's nice that you have your support system. It's nice that you have cash there. He is such a warrior. He is but he laughs at me and in certain. And I'm so sensitive to girl. You are Pisces head. I need to cry public so sensitive. Oh my gosh just a totally non-related funny story but we were on a plane recently and there was a movie. You you watch movies on planes and there's this movie about this dog any animal movie just makes me like Saab on a plane right so the dog dies in the movie and I and my face is just wet with tears. And I'm doing the sad ugly cry. You know the one where you're like you know the relief anyway. So cash is sitting next to me. And he's like art. Uk's really all the sudden the man on the other side cash asked him if he was abusing abusing her and cash is like no bro. It's a dog. A dog died in the movie. She's fine anyways. Cash League over. He's like Bay people's income and so yes Ugly Cry Oh my God also by the way that man you know just blatantly that the right way of saying it blatantly lie. I don't know but when he asked how many people do that. So that guy you know that wasn't the situation but that is awesome. And you know what's great about watching those type of Safi dog movies? Just make you weep all day long or just any movie that's GonNa make you WANNA cry. You're also actually cried out of a lot of emotional trauma. I believe you've been holding in that. You just haven't really been able to see consciously I mean the waking snakes. People don't cry unless they're watching some kind of a story but they cry because they can relate to it right and so it's a way to release. You gotTa feel it to free it. I love that by the way that phrase feel it to free at right because the only way out is through short interruption to celebrate sponsor who is very supportive of vegan diets hum nutrition in fact they have an amazing b twelve supplement that of course uses clinically proven ingredients that are clean and natural and not once not but triple tested for potency in purity to make sure that we are not ingesting chemicals or unclean foods that our bodies don't necessarily need because that of course defeats the purpose of what their aim is and that is helping optimize. 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Accepting anything really. That isn't what I hope for it to be. And for instance. I think we all get our expectations of For certain things it can be something small or big or we had this idea. Mind of how we want things to go in life and when it doesn't happen we get gravely disappointed. Do you know what I'm saying? We just get sad and depressed and I recently had something happened to me where it was like. I thought my life was going to be headed in this direction. And then the door got slammed. Shut my face and I was just so hurt and in pain about it. And I- wallowed for three days and This is just happened to me so much in my life where I was like you know what I just need to learn how to love what is and on a deeper level really understand. That knows aren't necessarily a bad thing. But perhaps there a redirection in your life for something that's better or maybe perhaps a no is something that will save you from doing something or save you from something that wasn't meant for you. Look for whoever whoever believes in God or whatever you believe in but it's you know you being protected for something that wasn't meant for you absolutely so if you can't think about it in that way then you can learn to love what is like okay if that door closed. What can I be grateful for right? Now we're how can I learn to love and appreciate the situation that way? I'm not breeding resentment or anger and I'm not focusing on you know Mike Control issue at hand but I'm learning to flow with it have acceptance and ultimately have more peace with the situation because I feel it when we're opening outweigh more beautiful. Things are drawn to us right. So yeah yes. And that's not a way of spiritual bypassing something or painting rose colored paint over. Whatever is in front of you that you might feel rejection from. You might feel blamed. You might feel shame. Whatever it is that you're experiencing it's not that we're trying to paint a rose color over By any means it's more so just recognizing that perhaps this is actually going to happen for you. This experience is not happening to you. As we've said a million times on this podcast but this experience is not happening to you. It really really is happening for you. And perhaps this is a good way to give yourself the Compassionate and that a you are human you are human going through this and it's not always easy to be human so it's okay to feel whatever you're feeling But be to also know that you are always taken care of God source universe to have that faith and trust that no matter what you're always taking care of perhaps like you said that one path that you think in your mind is so perfect for you that one path that you that story. You're trying to create that. If this happens this will happen will honestly probably not happen but also perhaps that opened so many doors that you just aren't able to quite yet but they're on their way they're about to open for you. Yeah absolutely and I mean and I think when you're in the heat of the moment it is so difficult because you're wrapped up in the emotions and I think that's where the challenges window it's like when you realize okay. It's not happening to me. It's happening for me. Can you fall into a place to love? What is like in really love? What is do you know what I'm saying right like I of feel like that's what that's the ultimate goal is to love. Whatever happens now ever it is and in. This can be very difficult for people depending on the levels of extremely here like right because I mean it can be something Mr as extreme as death and people will be like. How am I supposed to love that? Impossible RIGHT GRANTED. I know but less extreme levels league. Let's say you make a B. On a test you can love what is and like the lesson learned. You can learn from it and try harder next time so you can see. They're different extremes but Loving what is when it comes to death or other things. That are very challenging. I mean you can really really be tested. But then maybe perhaps leak learning to celebrate. Somebody's life or maybe even take your life and live in honor of them live in a way that would celebrate them. Yeah right so it's Yeah it finding the love finding the love and a situation can be challenging for sure you know whatever that is so challenging and so feel whatever you're feeling and liar self degree allow yourself to you know experienced that trouble but be open to the possibility that there will be some light in it somewhere because your heart deserves that. We think everybody deserves that. Oh absolutely yeah and if I've learned anything it's that nobody will make it happen for you. You have to make it happen for like you know what I mean. So yeah it has to happen you you have to create it for yourself. Oh Yeah Oh absolutely yup. Yup It doesn't hurt to of course ask for help if you feel guided to do that for myself. I have a hard time asking for help. I am the worst that so for me. One of my challenges is allowing myself to ask for help and just house can reach out there for help in any way shape or form. When I do that. It's interesting how what I thought seems so challenging and difficult all of a sudden that brings so much delight to that situation. That's a hard thing for people. Yeah it is I mean because I mean there are a lot of people right now who are really struggling like and when I say really struggling I mean people who are I mean Raquel you and I have have come a long way. We're not afraid to look at our emotions but there are people who are not even willing to open up that door. It is just easier for them to live. Num- numb- in the Matrix so to speak right And so it's like okay. How do we reach those people? How do we talk to those people because everybody needs healing am I right? Everybody needs healing and I think everybody does want to wake up and I think that's for me that's why raw food has been so important because for me. Raw Food isn't food. The journey has been an awakening for me. It's been a mind body spirit journey. It's not a food obsession. It's more so just that eating raw food has been. It's the open. It's basically what opened the door for me to achieve more healing if you know what I mean. Oh absolutely and thinking of the cynics comments in the back of my head. I've noticed a lot of the Steph will be brought up and people just kind of want to turn it off and they don't WanNa listen because they think it's just getting to seem so seemless the entire time in that way when there's always questions being gathered and so someone might think well I don't want to do the Roger knee or whatever but for you. It's not about that. It's so much more than that. Ya totally like. You're not trying to say okay. If you go raw your entire world will be healed and everything will make sense. You're saying that that was part of your journey. That really helped you open up to way more than if you were to continue another. Yeah yeah absolutely it honestly Kinda messed everything up for me but it pulled it back together in a way that I better than I could have ever imagined. It's I use this analogy of dust on a bookshelf. Right if you let a bookshelf set with books on it for a long period of time. What happens all those books get covered in dust but the second that you take a book off the shelf what happens to all the dust. It goes flying everywhere right. It's like the same thing that happens. When your body the second you start detoxing right you start eating well. Detox madness happens right. You never the same emotionally the second you start opening Pandora's box you never know what to expect but it's like you're cleaning the bookshelf. Yeah in a way so a lot of people it does really also start with like my spiritual journey definitely started when I became and it did start with an obsession for me but you know physical health and perfection which is something that will be guided into but my spiritual journey as far as understanding. The concepts of spirituality stemmed from trying to a achieve. This perfect physical health be achieved this perfect life. Which as a deepened my spirituality. I realized that there is no such thing as perfection. So why even try to reach for it whereas loving? What is fueling? Whatever you're experiencing is truly two of the biggest key components to your spiritual health bringing this awful circle but yeah so you letting go perfection. That was huge and that's three. So where did this all come from free? I've been perfectionist my whole life. I never made a B. If I made an a minus I cried. I was always told that I had to work harder. Do More you know basically kick my own but all the time if I ever wanted to be good enough right. Yeah and it stemmed from like you know. I'M NOT GONNA put my parents down or anything but I most of my childhood this feeling of not being good enough abandonment issues things that came up very strongly for me. That would always you know made me always. WanNa try harder and if I messed up I would punish myself for it like right and so I always thought that perfection was the only way to go if I wanted to be loved right. I had to be perfect to be loved or accepted. And it's just an unrealistic expectation. Which is why said in that. Video number four is perfection is an unrealistic expectation. Perfection doesn't exist in like I was a math and calculus tutor for six years before I started my co Op and before I was even on Youtube so for me numbers I could reach perfection. I could get one hundred on that test because I can do that but in real life. There's that doesn't exist. Things get messy. There's no perfect number. Do you know what I'm saying? So and it was almost as if the perfect life for me was something that I placed on a pedestal and I had to learn that I would rather place adversity on a pedestal instead of perfection. Because perfection isn't relatable right. I mean who can relate to perfection right we we relate to one another we bond with one another based upon the struggles that we go through our humanity right. That's how we're able to connect so in my pursuit of perfection. It was almost as if I was disconnecting from myself but as soon as I began to reconnect with the parts of me that were human and messy brought me back home and it helps me to really solidify my relationship with other people as well and actually reach out and get more support so I gather that perfection one's a big one for me so beautiful and to be honest. It's so interesting to think that it feels in the moment imperfect quote unquote or it can seem like it looks on a book imperfect quote unquote but when you really look out at how beautiful. The story is with all the other humans that you are able to connect with other people just feeling less alone and other people just feeling like they're able to be seen for who they truly are and they're actually able to show themselves in embrace themselves even if they don't mold into what society has created as this perfect story book and just like that the further that we step away from this perfect storybook how perfect it is like that is per- perfect. Just the true human love connection and being able to feel you that imperfect self so perfect and that's why I have the imperfect tattoo on 'cause Raleigh's perfection which released so perfect you know yeah and I mean and in a way meant to be. Oh Yeah so oh yeah I love that. Oh Yeah so yes. I think that's where my my my number four was. Perfection is an unrealistic expectation. It's a nice reminder for me when I feel like I get wrapped up in making something be perfect. Unlikable perfect doesn't exist. I'm good enough I'm already worthy. I'M GONNA place adversity on a pedestal here instead of perfection. I'm an honor would a do and my process and my journey get there instead of the actual destinations so embrace that adversity be. No one wants to see that perfect whatever peach girl. I got cellulite on my booty. And I'm proud of it and the thing that's human body in. That's why it's perfect. Yeah I mean we're all I mean pulling it back to body love. Were all shape so differently. There's not one piece of anybody that makes one person better than another is just not. That's just not how it goes now. I'm one of those people as well where I've had to really let go of the body. Shame because for me personally it shapes so drastically so often goes up and down. I gained weight fast. I lose weight fast. I'm so now I'm just like at a place. Where Wherever Matt I'M GONNA love that? They can make a rap song out of that wherever Matt. I'm going to bet five. Let's make out of this give without even number five. Give without expecting anything in return so the reason why I included this one in an end to this one is probably like the sore thumb out of all of them. But we're talking about overcoming failure and dealing with disappointment or even trauma. I think this one is really important because I have been hugely disappointed and traumatized by other people that I not only bent over backwards to but I'll just give the example of how I best learn this one of my best friends for years. I lent her a huge amount of money. She took it. Never pay me back and never spoke to me again. Recall you know the story and it was pretty much everything I had in my savings so it was such a huge lesson for me because not only was disappointed like thinking that you knew somebody and then all of a sudden them just like dropping. You like a hot potato showing you a different side of them that they you'd never seen and then on top of that being slightly traumatized by because if it's somebody you love and all of a sudden they're just gone and they took something like so huge from you. We can even say lake relationships. I have been cheated on rightly you give your love to somebody and then all of a sudden you find out that they're like with somebody else at the same time. It was a cash by the way no wasn't cash but I mean just talk about number one being traumatized right especially moving into a future relationship being hugely disappointed or even feeling like you're a failure in the relationship you're a failure by not having seen it before. How could you not have seen this? Before is the voice that we you know what we tell ourselves. So yeah that here. My lesson from all of that was give without expecting anything in return and for someone like me who's a people pleaser and grew up being a giver and a perfectionist. In me always thinking well I had to do everything to please everybody to be worthy to be loved and accepted Of course I have to give everything I have even if it means me being miserable so I put myself in positions where I would give up so much of myself and it didn't matter if I was miserable if I was making the other person happy. That's what counted now. That's not be best way to go about things. I know that now but I was so afraid of people not liking near being rejected that I made allowances for things in my life that I never should have right. For instance like another example was years and years ago. I had somebody working for me. Who I knew consciously. They were stealing money for me and I made it okay because I thought you know what this person must need the money way more than me. I'm just not saying anything. And they knew they were stealing money from me that my friend is not just a people pleaser but an enabler and somebody who was so afraid to stand up for themselves that I ended up harming myself instead of putting myself in a position of of doing good. And that is what led me into my next point number six which is speak up and set boundaries. That I've I am the Queen of somebody who did not know what proper boundaries were growing up right so you know not only my learning how to give without expecting anything return which you know is is wonderful because then you give selflessly and then you have zero expectation. No reason to be disappointed. No reason to encounter failure no reason to encounter trauma because you gave selflessly and it helps you to create more loving relationships but when it comes to speaking up sitting boundaries. It's you're putting yourself in a position to not have people take advantage of you now granted. It's always possible for people to take advantage of you if somebody really wants to. They'll find a way but it's about putting yourself in a position so that it's not as easy for them to do it. Or if you have strong and a foundries the answers just know your vibe is just no. Your energy is just no. You know people won't even won't even go there to try and take advantage of you now. If you met me in a room of people I get like cashing. I talk about this all the time. Certain people are drawn to me and they immediately want something from me. I'M NOT KIDDING. We've been in rooms of people before people will single me out and start asking me for stuff. They'll ask to be on my youtube channel. The WanNa do Collab- I'm like I don't even know you. And they will try and pull stuff on me and say things to me that they would never say to cash. We're in the same room. Nobody approaches cash in this way. And it's it's really funny because I mean I learned boundaries from cash and a few other of my beautiful friends in my life but he's boundaries are so solid people. Just don't even mess with pets and energetic boundary energetic thing and so it's like I'm working at getting there but it's and I'm not ashamed to ask so if I don't know what it looks like because keep in mind I'm I didn't not know what boundaries were growing up so me having to learn this as like learning a new language if I'm not sure what a healthy boundary looks like. I go when I ask people I asked cash and like hey what is a healthy boundary. Look like here. What's right? What's wrong and he'll just flat out. Tell me or if he feels like I'm acting up or saying something or not. You know not seeing that somebody else is trying to take advantage of me. Call me out on it immediately. He's like how do you not know this'll be like I don't know I didn't know that. This zine but now that I know I need to stand up for myself. Dang it I don't want to. I'm scared right. Yes speaking up and setting boundaries has been challenging for me especially when it's with people that you know. I think it's way easier with people you don't know but when it's people that you love and know it's harder because you're afraid of abandonment. They won't yeah afraid of hurting them. Afraid they're gonNA leave you. It's just more challenging so but hopefully in a lot of people do have the awareness where they can honestly just read into it without you having to say anything but for those that don't that can be extra challenging. I totally understand. I never have those people that like. No when no when they're grabbing my boundary and they just go for it well. It's not that I don't ever feel like crossed a brown injury of yours but I definitely at least made sure to do this. Everybody though I'm extremely consider it. Yeah well we're not talking about you. I've been I'm just letting you know that there are people in your life now that indeed honor your boundaries it. You're in a different position that Christina. The you're in a different position where I mean every single celebrity or a lot of other people that are in some sort of limelight that I know of or I know personally deal with this. And it's not just because there's like an energetic boundary but it's you know people have agendas when certain people are in the limelight with their success totally. And so that's something that you're honestly just. GonNa have no matter how stick your boundaries are can be as strong as long musk's it could be. You could have the frigate in the national security in front of you and you people are still going to be crossing that boundary. Because that is there's a lot of people in this world that just had that agenda. I just WANNA say because I've watched your boundary of illusion. I feel like we discovered this word in two thousand sixteen earn. Yeah I remember walking up to you and being like I decided to our conversation with chill about boundaries do boundaries. How come nobody ever talked to me about this? I walked around for four months with you in any time something came up. I was just like foundries and the word of Twenty Sixteen Twenty. Seventeen my word. It's still my word. I'm still working on it so just for people who are who. Are you know listening here? I'm still working on it. I Have Not mastered it in. It's been four years and trust me. I have put in the time and effort to make it work. I'm still learning. I just want to say though like watching this evolution a your boundaries are pretty way thicker way with. I'm so proud of you. Came around you but also I think that you know how there's that saying where people don't understand things that Dr Not. Does that make sense like someone that doesn't know what hate is honestly can't even comprehend what hate is because they don't have any of that right. You're just not that type of person view. Just it's hard for you to grasp without this life experience of really having to set them. Because you really are just so open but you don't have agendas with people knew. Don't think ill like you're so such an open book open to being friends with everybody. Leatherback sea the great in everybody's who the good everybody so it's not that you're naive or anything it's just that. How could you see something that you're not? Yeah and thank you for that compliment to things that just came up for me is do you remember when we were in. Bali and I won't say names here remember. When that superfan showed up at my hotel. He found out where I was staying and he showed up and he waited at my hotel room media come back for like a full twelve hour a day and then he then when I got back he asked if he could follow me around because he wanted to be my friend and I didn't know what to say it's going to hurt this guy's feeling so much but this is so weird ashes over there like you. Better tell that guy the f. off creepy where your boundaries and I'm like this guy's been my superfan forever it was just like I just remember you being like. Kb there's got to be a middle ground but he can't be like your hotel. It was so bad so okay just to give the reason. Why bring this up is? Because to show people that niceness and kindness can be two different things like I wanted to be nice in that situation and just like let this guy follow me around but that wasn't necessarily the healthiest boundary for me or for him. So I had to recognize that you can be kind and still have boundaries right like I. Sometimes I feel like niceness. Does people a disservice but you can be kind and have hopi boundaries and still achieve the same result APP. We will be here. Oh keep going. Well I'm just saying that's a huge lesson. I had to learn 'cause I thought I had to be nice. Nice you know quote quote for everybody to like me. Never say no. And then I'm like all right. But kindness can also mean saying no and having boundaries and achieving the same result basically. Ali has a beautiful poem. On that kindness versus niceness that just like really hit home for me. 'cause that was one of my greatest challenges and so that's actually a great segue into seven work on raising your self esteem. Because to be honest a lot of my lack self esteem came from me just feeling like I needed to be nice but I wasn't really being truly me whereas you know kindness and keep in mind like self esteem is how you carry yourself and I think it really stems from how we talk to ourselves. We all have limiting beliefs. We all have positive and negative self talk. We all compare ourselves to other people. But it's you know the more you work on your self esteem. The better you feel about yourself the more confidence you have and confidence doesn't have to be cocky thing. It can just be that you radiate in glow wherever you go and you don't have to put yourself down all the time or self sabotage or hurt yourself with your thoughts or with your physical actions and Yes oh my number seven is working on raising your self esteem and the way that I did that. I'm very into journaling. Repelling New York too is every day. I would write down three things that I liked about myself and then I read them repeatedly and then I would just remind myself that I'm good enough and that these are three things I like about myself in you know even if I started there they made me feel good right and that could carry those qualities with me wherever I went. And you know working on raising your self esteem. So and there's so many ways to celebrate who you are as a person And that is the way that is one of the ways to raise self esteem but a lot of people don't WanNa pull out the tools. They might just have a hard time feeling that love for themselves for a variety of reasons and so I think that focusing on the talk your inner dialogue and somehow just shifting that every single time you catch yourself talking negatively to yourself to switch it to something that actually might resonate with you. It might not resonate with you to say I am beautiful. In this moment it might not resonate. You know maybe I am feeling like I just feel better about myself today and how I've been treating myself. I've been eating more healthy today. So I'm proud of myself for doing that. And it does start the momentum and I truly think that momentum is honestly the most powerful force in the universe because you can either gain momentum and continued to just you know get on that momentum with self love and climb climb climb or vice versa and just spiral down and in addition to that. If I can add to that you know you can also increase your self esteem simply by doing the things that bring you joy like it so if you struggle with talking positively yourself start doing things that you love to do like Danseuse in the shower. I felt the other day I know standing here room but you do you get what I'm saying. It's like if you can't if you if you're number one step isn't talking. Kindly yourself start doing things that bring you joy because when you're in a state it's easier to be nice to yourself or to be kind here so you know what. I think is also super important is to surround yourself with people that just love you no matter what no matter what I was thinking about you know the time I did spiral down. I was in London and you you you came in. You stayed with me London and your presence just being there because you love me just for who? I am so much and I could feel that. I saw that that it helped to raise my self esteem. Just it's like a reflection you see the reflection of how they see you in yourself and you're like I am so loved and this person loves me for no reason but just because of who I am and just to be able to see that in someone else that is surrounding you. That can help immensely Absolutely surrounding yourself with people who love and care about you hands down like you need to have that and if you like and in the opposite way do not surround yourself with people who do not have your best interests at heart or you just feel that they don't see don't care to sue. Don't care to get to know you. I think that's a huge key to just recognizing your worth is surrounding yourself with people that really do also just love Lia for you absolutely not leads us into number eight all these segues and will they can. I very carefully thought about all of these Number is changed. My question and this one is a bit different. I learned this at a Tony Robbins conference so when we're talking about self esteem. There are few roadblocks that come in the way because we all tend to have these stories that we tell ourselves or we believe that we struggle with something that nobody else does right so we tend to ask ourselves these questions when difficult things come up. Why does this keep happening to me? What did I do wrong? Why me why me why me. Everybody has a different question right. And it's a it's the question is somewhat victimized. There is a bit of self pity in it right but we focus more on that question and it tends to spiral us down rather than a question that might be construct constructive like what can I learn from this. You know what? How can I get myself back on track right so number? Eight follows up the self esteem because it reminds me to change my question. When I'm having a really crappy damn stuck in traffic and I'm like why me you like all right. What can I learn from this? Do not leave your house at five pm schedule things around five. Pm Traffic Right. It can be as simple as that Stop giving things. Meaning that don't need meaning right and just change your question and work around it so and that also helps your self esteem because then you stop making things your fault you stop making yourself the victim and you begin to empower yourself. So I think that's important. I love that changing the question just turning the tables a bit and instead of just totally focusing on yourself just seeing what is the great takeaway from all of this. Yeah absolutely or even just being open to the fact that there is a great takeaway. That is to come from this. Yeah and just so that people can see that. There's so many ways to do this like if your question is how come. Nobody loves me. You can change that question around to say. How can I better love myself? You can apply this to any given certain question that you feel comes up for you and it does take a little bit of retraining in the mind to do this but as possible. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. And that's another thing when it comes to of course again. The skeptics are those that are little more cynical when it comes to doing the work It's really hard when they're starting to open up to this. They'll come to those quote unquote blocks which are not relieved blocks but the recognize that. Okay this is a situation where I can shift. But what's the point? That's when you start to turn backwards but when you do hit those blocks those quote unquote blocks or not really a block but when you do recognize that you are there and you want to turn around. Because that's the easy route. Just challenge yourself in that moment to simply change the inner dialogue. Change the question to something else for a short period of time for twenty seconds. Just see to see what happened. Yeah are to sit down and do one of your beautiful meditations get that right or this could lead us into number nine which we write down three positive coping mechanisms. So we've talked about changing the question we've talked about self esteem And the reason why included this at number nine is because sometimes the more that we see the more tempted we are to fall back into negative patterns or just to immediately go and sabotage. Because we think we can't change or that were stuck so in those moments of depression or self pity or even when you find yourself spiraling down. Write down three positive coping mechanisms so for instance instead of Friday night going and sitting on the couch and eating a tub of ice cream in watching Bridget Jones. Diary not that that was my path. advertising pattern or anything. Maybe perhaps your Friday night would look like taking aback eating a salad and getting to bed early and doing a meditations or something you know so that would be a more positive coping mechanism than drowning yourself in a sappy movie with. Ice Creams It obviously there are different extremes to that but Positive coping mechanisms can include anything from exercise to eating. Well being around positive. People journaling. Meditating things like that yes. I think we'll end again. So I'm gonNA keep thinking of the skeptic that not the skeptic but the more cynical person that is having a hard time even just going to a to some sort of positive action because that can be hard in. It's so easy to rely on the comfort. When you're in that moment where like okay. Keep coming to this position where I am comfortable. Where is this leading you to? Because if you see that this pattern you continue to create this habit This coping mechanism that. You just keep relying on it that keeps taking you to the same place because everything in life is a pattern. How can you potentially in does it? You don't have to think like Oh. I'm going to switch over to a positive coping mechanism but instead what can you do to shake things up to use a different habit? And of course that in itself will be a more positive coping mechanism. But I think like. Oh the smart thing to do is to meditate. So that's exactly what I don't want to do. Because it is a very common for humans to have their self sabotage voice takeover interest. Go back to what's comfortable and so it's hard to be like. Oh you know what to feel better. I'm just GonNa go do yoga this moment. You know when that zone so what is just something even slightly more simple that you don't have a resistance to do that is completely different to shake things up from this normal habit. That continues the pattern. Yeah I've like something that doesn't overwhelm you. Yes and then. That doesn't push you away immediately. I like salad like that. Just means you get AIDS or sitting sunshine go into cucumber. Go juiced out that always. You never mind. You wouldn't do this as say I've heard of something recently where people air fry radishes and it tastes like potatoes. Though you want to do I mean I might dehydrate Iraq to let you know how that goes moving into number ten. This is the more I would say. Probably one of the deeper ones and more spiritual components like it depends on what you believe in. You don't have to believe in anything but This one is honor the presence of grace in every past present and future moment of life. Beautiful you know I. I love the song. Amazing Grace and I believe that each of us carries grace with us Because I mean we all mess up. We all encounter hardships. And we all are given so much grace in this life it's unreal and when you just go back and start thinking about it. You're like Oh my God I have grace with me. I have angels with me and it reminds you that everything does happen for a reason. There's so much to learn from. And they're just everybody's human experience is so different so I give you permission. I give myself permission to honor Willis happened in the past traumatizing as it may have been to respect what's happening in the present as disheartening or as discouraging as it might be and maybe even to give grace to things that are in the future even if you fail right too. 'cause you knowing that you're going to pick yourself back up no matter what so Mean for number ten honoring the presence of grace in my life past present and future is something that humbles me to my knees. Every time I think about it. So yeah and that actually leads me into my eleven lucky number eleven at time tells all time reveals all and I knew I've told you this many times like if my favorite quote I feel like I state every time I'm on the phone with a friend or family but it's just because so many times in just the past ten years. I felt like I didn't have the answers. Why is this happening to me was my question right and I didn't have the answers but then it was like five years later ten years later it revealed itself so we might never have the answers but usually if you give something enough time things begin to unravel and you see that the path that you're on was exactly meant for you and things are exactly as they were meant to be? You were protected. Things happened for you. Everything happens for a reason and that phrase every time I tell it to myself brings me peace Christina that is also beautiful. The second you were talking about amazing grace that is actually one of my favorite songs spiritual songs of all time sometimes just meditate to songs that make me feel connected to God great source universe. Imagine just like closing your eyes in listening pulling up Charlotte Church singing amazing grace and meditating to that would be just try it out. Try Time Really. Does though it does truly tell all reveal all one thing. I've learned as as far as also a meeting New People. The relationships time is going to be what shares the truth. Absolutely I mean I I mean I know that we all the time is something that we can never get back and time is something that reveals to us things that I mean. Gosh just look at how some things have unraveled in history. I know unreal. Time is like is just unbelievable. I've learned also recently something about myself because I am a very impulsive person which is not the best thing and I've really had to learn to take time with even just saying yes to certain opportunities or Saying yes to certain people because I I too am also people please one please everybody and so just like giving things time and space not to reveal something but just to honor how. I'm truly feeling about something because most everything is like a yes a deep yes or no right away but I do actually need to entangle certain things for a bit enacted only happen in time. Absolutely beautiful cal. Thank you for having me on and thank you everybody freezing. Oh what were you not just have to give a tell me when to go out skating. Well okay so I just WanNa know what your favorite raw vegan recipe right now. I mean you're on Hare. We've got fully rocker seen on. We've gotta get some like Ravi in tips home a Robbie have in our life Whether you're beginning up Ravi or not e-eh no. We all deserve to nourish our bodies with Ravi. Give me if I mean if people are looking for raw food recipes. I have like eight hundred videos on YouTube channel and Free Free Free Raw food recipes. And if you want something a bit more mobile they can check out my APP. It's called Fully Rabbi Christina. I tunes and Google play But I would say this We're Kellen I have eaten a lot of raw food meals together in Bali basically. That's all we did was go to raw food restaurants. Then shut up Bondra or shuttle launch. Sanya is so good. I know we we love our Raleigh. I know we love like Zucchini noodles and the sole balls and You know what I just love. Fresh produce in any kind of good sauce like just find one or two three good recipes that you love and make them over and over again is like you learned to make more things. You'll find out what what you love like. It doesn't have to be difficult though like eating. Raw Food is not overwhelming. It's just eating fruits and vegetables. Take away the overwhelm. Because it's just nourishing yourself that's it. It's so simple what I actually had right before the podcast. I was craving something else. Says Criminals crunchy thing but instead of just like had some grapes monograph kick right now for whatever reason I'm obsessed with grades and love it but that's so simple. What are you having for dinner tonight? salad always so basically every green with cucumbers carrots a little bit of cabbage and addressing is a lemon Tahini Salon. Show Dressing I. I always have to heaney in my salads girl. 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Dr. Allyson Ettinger, Assistant professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Chicago

Scientific Sense

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Dr. Allyson Ettinger, Assistant professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Chicago

"Welcome to the site of accents podcast. Where we explore emerging ideas from signs, policy economics, and technology. My name is Gill eappen. We talk with woods, leading academics and experts about the recent research or generally of topical interest. Scientific senses at unstructured conversation with no agenda or preparation. Be Color a wide variety of domains. Red New discoveries are made. and New Technologies are developed on a daily basis. The. Most interested in how new ideas affect society. And help educate the world how to pursue rewarding and enjoyable life rooted in signs logic at inflammation. V seek knowledge without boundaries or constraints and provide unaided content of conversations bit researchers and leaders who low what they do. A companion blog to this podcast can be found at scientific sense dot com. And displayed guest is available on over a dozen platforms and directly at scientific sense dot net. If you have suggestions for topics, guests at other ideas. please. Send up to info at scientific sense dot com. And I can be reached at Gil at eappen dot. Info. If, you haven't heard about anchor. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain it's free their creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Incredible will distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts and many more. You can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. Mike. Yesterday Dr Allison Ettinger who's a computational linguists and assistant professor in the Department of Linguistics at the University of Chicago what you natural language processing and computational cognitive warling. Interdisciplinary work draws on methods and insights from cognitive science linguistics and copied assigns. To examine, meaning, extraction, and Prick you processes executed during language processing in humans. Not to Flint, Tareyton? Systems. Bokram Allison. Thanks. I want to start with one of fewer earlier peepers and sent titled Morton N Four Hundred amplitude using vector space models of board presentation. In which you looked at the vector space model Sam has. The models of voter relations that influence and four hundred. and. The inflow hundred is really a measurement of the eeg right Could you talk a bit about what and four hundred s and then began dig into? What you found with ESM's. Yes. So the in four hundred is a component of the human brain response that is used a lot bicycle linguists by people who are interested in studying the. and so when you are when you're measuring the electrical signals of brain activity What you see at about four hundred milliseconds peaking at about four hundred milliseconds after the onset of a stimulus as your for instance reading. One word at a time is a is a negative. Peak in the signal, which is referred to as the end four hundred component of that ERP response. Of that eeg measured by the G.. And what we seemed to find accumulated over time in studying the signal is that the end four hundred seems to be sensitive to the extent to which. The word that you're reading their fits with the context. So to speak said to be more explicit, what you see is that the ENFOR hundred can show the default for the end four hundred to default is see that peak But if you see that word is particularly expected in the context, then you'll see a reduction in that in four hundred amplitude. So it can be an indication of how predictable a word is in context or how expected a word is in context. So yeah. So psycholinguistics. Studied use the four hundred dozen indication of how expected words are in context in by manipulating that context, you can ask questions about what what language comprehend. IRS are expecting they process this context. Okay. So would it be right to you alison that what you're measuring their sort of a proxy for the effort spent like the brain so if it is expecting something or The context is made it clear. Then then you get one response but if it is something unexpected or the context is unclear, you get a different response. So it's up the proxy for much foot debris in spending. That's I think a reasonable way of thinking of it in. It's one of analogy that people have used I think that that's a very sensible way of imagining this to be essentially that if you're having to put in the normal amount of effort to process a word because you didn't expect it ahead of time, then you're going to see that normal sized and four hundred amplitude. But if you're able to anticipate ahead of time what we're going to come up and you're able to do that work ahead of time than you might imagine that that reduction effort may be the reason that we're seeing that reduction in four hundred amplitude. Okay. Yeah, I, remember reading something some time ago. beauty is is you know is a functional homage for debris and has to spend whether it's a painting or the fees of a human being or whatever obstacles if the brain can get the brain doesn't have to spend a lot of efforts. If it has symmetry you know in different different directions than The brain defines that object to be more beautiful than you know that you do a lot of work in cognitive science as well is that. Is that something that that is related? I don't have any expertise in the relationship between expected nece and beauty. So I can't really comment on that but it's an interesting idea. Certainly I've seen just peripherally surf theories about what the predictors are for what people will find beautiful I. I have not seen myself anywhere connecting the end four, hundred response per se to that type of. Work Okay okay. So in the paper vector space models bsn so you're basically. Creating a natural language processing. Engine and then using that look at what what it is doing and how that is related to what the brain might be doing. Yeah. So in that paper, basically, which constructed a very, very simple model based on vector space models of of word representation in we used that very simple model to test an alternative. That could potentially account for an observed pattern of results that had been seen in end four hundred experiments so. The basic idea there was in the experiment they were looking at the. Four hundred to words in context and they had contexts. As he caught the ball and scored a touchdown, there was nothing he loved more than a good game of, and now we have set up an expectation for what's next word might be, and they tried three different types of continuations after a context like this was a continuation like football, which is the expected continuation in that context another was a continuation like baseball, which is not at all expected in that context but shares. Semantic features with football in that it's also a sport and then the third continuation was an unexpected continuation that didn't share the same amount of semantic overlap a continuation like monopoly, which is a game, but not a sport. So. They looked at the brain response to these three different types of continuations across a number of different contexts and what they found was that an the the the critical observation is that often they we have found that the in for hundred tracks what's known as close probability, which is how likely it is that a person would continue that context in a fill in the blank task with that word. So no one's GONNA fill in that context with monopoly and no one's GONNA fill in that context with baseball and a lot of people are going to fill in that context with football. So you'd expect basically to see a reduced n four hundred amplitude on football and not a reduced amplitude. That are not expected. That is baseball a monopoly and the interesting observation in that study was that they did see a reduced and one hundred amplitude as expected on football. They saw a non reduced amplitude on monopoly, but even though baseball was not expected in the context of what they saw was that it should this intermediate amplitude suggesting a certain amount of facilitation facilitation being a reference to you were mentioning before about making it easier to process this this word so. This was curious and there was a particular theory that these authors put forward about why this had happened and it basically said we'll football with. So expected in the context that you're bringing predicts that ahead of time and because football is activated. So to speak and because baseball shares features with part of baseball was activated and that was why baseball also saw some facilitation also awesome reduction in the signal and so what we were saying was okay well. That's one very interesting possible explanation for for that result. But what if it's actually the case that you don't need to have predicted football you ahead of time in order to see a reduction on baseball maybe it's actually that there are some sort of indirect maybe not completely obvious relationship direct relationships between the words of the context and the word baseball even though baseball doesn't make sense in that context, maybe it actually could be the case that there are some. Connections between individual words in context that may have increased the. The this passive expectation for baseball, what we might refer to as priming of of baseball, and so what we took advantage of to test the Cypress was these vector space models I don't know if I should give an diesel explaination of veterans face. I should give a little bit. So, so vector space models basically, the idea here is we're going to make use of the distribution of words in their contexts and use that to derive a representation of those words and how similar they are to other words. So there's a famous quote you shall no word by the company that it keeps you can think of this. In. Terms of things like. If I see. Certain words in they always occur in the context of eat and spoon and delicious than we imagine that these have to do with food, and so this is the the words that that this these words occur with can tell us things about what the word means and what other words it might be similar to and so factor space models are are are models that use statistics to derive represent vector representations of words based on their distribution in context, and then once we have these vector representations were able to use them to quantify the relationships between words as tonight. Flight word to Right. So you take a taxi and then you can would that would into set of numbers essentially every Exactly were developed is is one very prominent example of exactly this type of model. Okay. Okay and so So you mentioned close probabilities close probability is the chance of predicting the next word, right? In a sequence of words that the chance over the next would being being something. and so that that that probably should be sort of inversely related to the N.. Four. Hundred. because it is completely unexpected and full amplitude would be higher and the probably lower right. Right. So a very high close probability correspond to a reduced in four hundred amplitude yet buca. Okay. And so So it's interesting. So what we are finding? The in the some moral is that it's acting a bit like the brain is too much of a too much of a jump. Inc We didn't want to go so far as to claim that it's acting like the brain, but in order to take seriously the results there and take take that seriously as a as a representation of hypothesis that we wanted to test we did need to go so far as to say as to take potentially seriously the relationships that that model produces between words. So basically, we say, all right we're going to measure the relationships between words that are produced within this vector space. So we're going. Yosemite maybe banana and strawberry are going to fall close together in the space because they both occurred near similar words or. Something along those lines and so we're essentially saying. These types of statistically based were pair relationships. We're going to take those seriously as something that might also be an stance shaded in the brain. For instance, if the brain is also keeping track of current statistics, it may pick up on similar types of relationships, and so it may also have You know similar type of relationship between banana and strawberry for similar reasons, and so now we want to look and say. Right, we're going to use the fact that we have this model that's able to quantify relationships, and we're going to use that to try to say, okay, does baseball actually. A closer relationship to the words in that football context like text down in pass and ball then monopoly dozen you can imagine just just one example you can imagine. How that might be the case right? Because baseball includes balls and things like this and monopoly does not, and this is just to give a very, very low level example and we averaged over a number of of different contexts just the ones that had access to But the but yeah, the idea there was we didn't want to make a very strong claim. We certainly didn't make the claim that our very simple vector based model was a perfect model of how language processing happens. All we wanted to claim was that. If, we can suppose that the brain may have access to similar types of CO occurrence statistics, and if the brain is making use of. Some similar sort of representation system or at least if that representation system can approximate of priming effects that we might see then that can present an alternative explanation for the result that they saw because that was once ran that model we were able to reproduce roughly speaking the patterns that they observed right? Yeah. It's it's it's interesting. You know if. I wanted in the human context. If any individual only is engaged in baseball. So baseball than become sort of a proxy for any kind of sport. because keys interested in in football or anything just baseball. and. So in the human context of Breen might just plug in baseball as sort of a proxy for any scored. into the context is sort of like a a a deep neural network that maybe overtrained perhaps Did you see any effects of those types of things or? It's an interesting. I think that part of what you're pointing out is that the commonality of being a sport may may, in fact be part of what underlies the fact that you see this effect in this I think is in the same spirit as the the original hypothesis put forth by the authors and I think it's very interesting. One in terms of a relationship to overtraining networks I'm not sure that I've seen anything drawing an explicit connection between those things, but it's an interesting possibility I. think it's an interesting. Area of inquiry in general to think about the possibility that the predictive training that for instance, language models are going through could bear some resemblance to the types of of learnings for statistical learning that we do as adults just overtime and through our various experiences that lead to these lower level brain responses that seem to reflect statistics in the environment directly I want to jump into another people that you have. It's entitled spying on Your Neighbors Flying Green probing contextual embedding for information about surrounding words. So so this is another NLP. Mortal maybe a bit more complex and you are other than using single woods you're you're kind of feeding the. Feeding the system. So to speak the entire sentence right and then figuring out how how woods be the context around it, how how those things are embedded into their into the system Yeah absolutely. So the first experiment that we we've been discussing makes use of a context in variant word representations, word vector representations, and the second paper that you've now mentioned is looking at representations produced by contextualising betting models which feed in the entire sentence exactly as you said, and then produce representations for each of the Tokens, each of the words in the sentence out but those tokens reflect their context in some way. So to give a concrete example where we can imagine this would be useful. There s words are homogeneous. It's like take the word bank bent can have multiple. Different meanings and you as a human can tell which meaning is intended based on the context. If I- I swam to the riverbank one type of bank by I went to the bank to withdraw money I, mean another type of bangles and so the idea roughly is that the the the model should be able to capture these types of differences in addition to a variety of other types of differences in these models have been quite successful on a variety of p tasks in. So idea in that paper was to examine to use probing task classic classification based Analyses To probe and an analyze the word representations, the conceptualist word representations produced by those models and try to get a sense of exactly what information about the context they're capturing and you tied different different quarters. Great Yes. So elmo stands for embedding from language models, GP degenerative pre-training. At more recently, Beaufort H I believe came out of Google. Bi, directional, encoder representations from transformers. I wonder if you want to talk a bit about transformers I, know that CNN. Relational your networks and on an as well as the. LS TM's. Are Sort of inferior to maybe I don't know this seems to be inferior to this transformers for from an not context. Yes. The transformers came onto the scene in two thousand seventeen, and the interesting thing about transformers is that they allow us to process language process sentences without recurrence, which is the. Fundamental. Component of recurrent neural networks which has been the prevailing way to process language up until the arrival of transformers so. essentially recurrent neural networks process words, process sentences, one word at a time when unit at a time in sequence and then take the hidden states of the network and feed them back in at the next time step in order to keep track of a history whereas transformers do not make use of of recurrence transform introduced in a paper called attention is all you need. So these transformers make use of what's called an attention mechanism which essentially as. A Awaiting function that looks at all of the different words of the sentence and decides how relatively wait each of them in in processing across the different layers of the of the model. And then progressively, produces different representations at each of the positions corresponding to the tokens of the sentence and and so these models are being trained in in different ways and they've shown a significant successes. I don't know that we've. Really, come to a final decision about what exactly Where exactly transformers outperform are Annan's in terms of systematic announced systematic comparisons of the two but absolutely, transformers have become very popular and has become the predominant model at this point Since since a number of of popular transformers have have come onto the scene done very well you I read about this GP to Addison. So this is a white Pale and coding essentially that using subbed words. If you want to talk a bit about, this is sort of the latest thing. Yeah. So using a sub word units can be useful in terms of getting around problems like a sparsity in the. In, the representation of full words within the training Corpus and so. I honestly haven't seen systematic studies of benefits of by parents, coating either benefits the different types of coding different formats that these inputs might take, but there are definitely some queer Benefits that you might see from going below this upward level when people were first looking below the sub level often this was in terms of characters and often people would draw connection to possible benefits in terms of morphology that is. Words from a linguistic standpoint it is. Very true that words have. More more internal structure below the word level. So you might imagine things like running runs ran things like this at the. Have things in common and so you as a as a human. Don't necessarily need to memorize different meetings for running runs if you can just put together those pieces. So this is one sort of linguistically motivated type of of reason that you might want somewhere units it could be more efficient perhaps in some. Yeah it may be it in the end it doesn't tend to Align perfectly with the way that morphology works. So that's that's certainly not the whole story but but I do think that it it should should improve efficiency to be able to focus on on this word. Components the folks who are working on this and I can't remember who they were They said that they cannot release sort of the big big model that they say has been impressive those because they fear that if it falls into bad hands, it could implications. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah I think that yes that was the that was the rationale that was given for not releasing GP t to originally and I think a course. In theory, this concern is entirely valid and it's certainly. Important to be thinking about ethics in a is that this is absolutely true. I think that people were disappointed in that perspective in that. What this also means if you don't release your model is that no one can really stress tested and see whether it's really as impressive as you're claiming just based on on the paper on a few examples and and shortly after. I started training comparable models and larger models, and so ultimately, it became a bit. Moot but yeah, it's it's certainly an interesting. Conundrum if you think that you have a model that could be used for. For ill. Certainly being conscious of that is is very responsible. Yeah problem. There is, of course. You know this type of technology is really difficult to keep it locked up. So. If. It's replicable people complete tried to replicate it if they have the strikes place. Yeah. So it does paper you also mentioned So I, want to understand a bit more about it. So you say bi directional context appears to impact distribution patterns more than debt or architecture. Go the transfer more show more MR distance devoted to describe a bit about what you mean the. And we we had to be a little careful in how. strongly. We made those claims since we were. Trying to draw conclusions from a fairly small sample size of models. But in we had Cheapie et which was a unit directional model and burden Elmo, which were bidirectional models, and then elmo was also a shallower model and was also a recurrent model by contrast to G bt INVERT, which transformers. So trying to draw loose conclusions based on the comparative performance, the comparative patterns that we saw of what information seemed to be captured and how it seemed to be distributed across words we were finding for instance that. which was the one model of the three that was not a transformer was showing less robustness to distance. We saw more a drop when we added more distance in terms of the information that it seemed to be capturing at longer distances that is. A token. That is farther away from. The the word that were. Information of which might be capturing. So that is if you're proving for how how far away, we're seeing information about the word dog if if the word the is Six words away with Aloe may be less likely to capture that at dogs so So. So yes. So based on that, we made sort of the speculative. Conclusion that that this may be due to the fact that it's not not among the transformers and tournament which of the other ones was that you you mentioned the oath bidirectional. Yeah. So in an Elmo and and Bert are both bidirectional and and those two patterned together to a substantial extent. especially when there wasn't intervening distance there were certain little differences that we saw between them. That were pretty interesting but absolutely the. cheapie being unit directional definitely substantially impacted. The way that information was distributed both in terms of In principle differences where you since since it only has access to things to the left, it's not going to have. Any information about things in a direction that it can't see but But also we saw some interesting patterns in terms of, for instance, it seemed to really prioritize the subject noun over the object Noun to the. To the point that the object noun seemed to have less information about itself than about the subject Noun. So it's interesting all three of these models that they are different concepts are different architectures. They all seem to have some of the performance but then they are good at some things and bad others So at least on the surface, they seem to be learning instilling inflammation quite differently from each other, right Terms of the three models comparing. Yeah. Yeah, we definitely did see some interesting differences there which we were excited about, and it's it's not necessarily easy to know precisely what to make of it but in terms of the types of information that we tested for, it does have some interesting implications in terms of the priorities that these models have with respect to the particular features of the meanings and structure structural information about those words that they decide to do to. Distribute in terms of contextual information that will be encoded on other words. Yeah. I was just wondering Addison when you sit in a bit interesting intersection of computer science and cognitive science we just wondering. From an evolutionary perspective perhaps needs to try different techniques abandoned some improved on others, and now we have the human brain but you may be able to find some earlier designs soon in animal models idly. Yeah. That's an interesting idea. In terms of it is is the question of whether we might see earlier evolutionary stage is in other non human animals that resemble where we are in the development of Ai Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Especially, if you'll find some, you know sort of inefficient mechanisms in animal brains and and then you don't find human brain perhaps we can conclude that. you know that's part of the selection and evolutionary process I'm just I'm just speculating here. Yeah it's it's certainly an interesting idea. I don't know that we have evidence at the moment and it makes us I'm just not aware off the top of my head. I don't know that we have evidence at the moment for that being the case, but it's certainly an interesting idea. I think one thing that is interesting to think about is the extent to which Through the number of unit number of parameters available in model should be compared to, for instance, the number of neurons in the brain. So I've had colleagues speculated about will you know if we if we just increased the size of the models to Such that the number of parameters is comparable to the number of neurons in the brain. I mean is that going to get US farther? Is that really the main sticking point and could the learning of organized things in such a way that we're able to arrive at the place? Somewhere comparable to where we are in the brain and I don't I don't know the answer to this and certainly don't have reason to think that That these models have. We certainly see interesting parallels. Points between behaviors of the human brain and behaviors of these models. But alongside those, we always see divergences between the two and so comparing them. I think it's very interesting and I always say the most important level at which to compare them is when it comes to language or anything else. That's uniquely humans is in terms of the output. So when we're evaluating our models, it's it's not only sensible but essential that we compare against human outputs because. You know what it means to understand language into language correctly is really defined by the way that humans do. But in terms of whether the underlying mechanisms need to or ultimately will resemble those of humans. That's an different question. I think the jury's still out Lakeway. Yes. So based on what we know today do we have any hypothesis assess to the size of the brain at its capabilities? More neurons more synapses desert unambiguously increase the capabilities or do we have some sort of included you type function that you know at some point adding more complexity to it actually creates more noise. But what do we? What do we know about that? I. Think. We have a lot more data on this from neural networks than from From human brains in that human brains are not going to be systematically varying the number of neurons, the number of kind of going to be what it is unless you mean comparing against animals and then that you know in terms of size of brain and number of of neurons, available and so certainly there's an amount of complexity that were. Able to recognize differences in when comparing across species but But yeah in terms of being able systematically very that I think that's something that we're kind of going GONNA be restricted to to doing in artificial models rather than in humans or or early natural systems like right here not models though is it is it true that that the bigger? The bigger. You know that the number of New Orleans you have in the model number of layers. the bigger the better in artificial models. It's not quite that simple, but we tend to see for a given model trained in A. Holding constant the way that it's trained As it gets bigger. We tend to see that the trend is that the performance improves. Now we also tend to see the trend. You know we see the bigger models better than people tend to Produce work that tries to distill down to the the sort of the essential parameters that these models don't have to be so large and cumbersome, and so that's a pattern that for instance, we might see with GP T. three that just came out is a huge huge model. But we do tend to see in general the pattern that bigger models tend to have the capacity for better performance gay. Okay. I want to go to another people that you'd have Addison. So it's it's assessing composition in sentence victim presentations. invite you said important component of achieving language understanding mastering the composition of sentence meaning. Button immediate challenge to solve these problems passage of Senate spectacle presentations produced by neuroscience competition models. You want to knock bit about that. Yeah. Absolutely. So again, this this falls in the category of taking representations that are produced by these types of models and trying to better understand what information exactly they're capturing in what's in there, and in this case by contrast to the contextualising but he's embedding study that we were discussing a moment ago. which was Just interested in general information that one might pick up on about surrounding words The composition paper was focused specifically on trying to find ways to do targeted evaluation of the extent to which sentencing coders that is models that are designed to produce generalized representations of sentences, sentences, and presumably sentence meaning the extent to which they are able to produce sentence to. Capture it encode sentence meaning in compositional way, and so the reason the reason that we were so focused on composition is. The idea behind composition is that human language is infinite because you can just take the pieces individual words for instance and make them into any new sentence you want. So I can say something nonsensical like the giraffe recited the sonnet to the flight attendant We had a nonsensical centers along those lines in the paper and you know exactly what that sentence means because you know what the individual words mean even though it's something that you've presumably never experienced, it's very strange type of sentence in prison we've never heard it before. So the fact that you're able to do that is Is what allows language to be so expressive and for people to be able to understand since they've heard before it Cetera. So this is something we wanted to test for in in the models is the extent to which they're able to capture compositional sentence meanings. So we did a lot of controls to try to ensure that the that we were targeting in testing for. Systematic. Capturing of these meaning components that couldn't be attributed to artifacts memorization ray. So one of the things I was I was thinking about Let me ask you the so language sort of evolved. And You know they might be lot of ever. So it could be you know an aggregation of errors over time. that became something that is that is useful to humans. But we have created some more systematic languages like computer languages. Is it is a lot easier to teach a machine, a computer language than a human language. Is it easier to teach a machine of in other words. Understand? Computer Code. And Produce, Computer Code. So to to be cleared natural human languages highly systematic but it's absolutely true that there are complexities in idiosyncrasies to natural human language that aren't present in constructed programming languages, and so I don't. Know exactly what the analogy would be in terms of teaching AH programming language if you're talking about having a model just Acquire. A programming language in the way that we're trying to get to acquire natural human languages I. I. I have peripherally been aware of work with folks. Working on on Machine learning with code and I I think that. Probably, it isn't easier task I. Don't know exactly the results look like since I've been focused on natural language in terms of in terms of my work, but in terms but but it absolutely is true your basic observation that the The, the certain amount of. That, we see in human language and certainly the level of complexity natural human language, certainly the amount of complexity those are going to be less in programming languages. So yeah, absolutely it is presumably going to be easier in principle to teach a programming language I. It's interesting I I don't think it's doable Addison. So as we get better and better aid in the in the area. if come to a point that certain things in the English language that doesn't have English. But as an example. that. That makes it quite difficult. from an IT perspective to teach a machine. and so we are ninety five percent there. Let's say and that flight percentage left on the table. To get to that five percent have may maybe ten next the mortals I wonder if there's an opportunity to go go back and professionalize English language right because. You over time you've got quite inefficient. I I. I'm not totally sure but I think that this sort of the speculation might be moving in the direction of Ken. We serve modify the environment to make it easier to learn that. IS THAT SURF? Yeah? It'd be taking this language and say you know if it were if you were to remove five percent of the Brady Complex. semantics and structural features the English language, it becomes very amenable to an MP. Yeah Yeah it's It's definitely an interesting idea. It's not the certainly not the first time I've heard a suggestion along these lines either for language or for other things. I remember a conversation about self driving cars and serve the examples of adversarial inputs that you might see. You know what if someone painted a striped stop sign or something and it's difficult for the for the self driving car to for the model running the car to to recognize it in the suggestion was well, why don't we just remove adversarial examples from the environment and I think that this is probably not the way to go in the end. Is are know we need? Shore, it would be easier to be successful that way. Absolutely. But since you know humans are the ones using in producing language and language IDIOSYNCRASIES. an answer languages. a living systems so to speak and it changes on a daily basis and I think those types of difficulties are going to keep being part of language until unless we want to force humans to tried to force humans to to. Use language exclusively in a way that will be easy for For machine that's probably not what we want to do but it also It's definitely an interesting question I think that trying to do that would really remove a lot of what makes makes language effective. So I don't think these are errors per savior to serve. Products of the way that that language were extended issues. Yeah. I wouldn't get a call from Webster's or English. So I want to finish with your the latest paper, which is what book is not. And you using set of diagnostics on a pre trained. but transformer. So so both as you go together to to step process, you have a pre clean model and then you customize it for a specific application and I guess you're running some diagnostics on the retrain motto. Yep Exactly said this New Paradigm that has become very Popular is to. Train A to pre train a model on a large amount of of data using tasks that doesn't require annotation or a combination of tasks not requiring annotation, and and then once you have this large pre-trains model than you can fine, tune it on smaller amounts of data for particular tasks, and this has proved very, very effective burt Advance the state of the art across a wide variety of NLP tasks soon, very impressive, and so a lot of people were wondering quitting myself you what is it about the pre-training that picks up on such apparently generalize -able information that can then support effective fine-tuning across a wide variety of tasks. So in targeting the pre-training model, the idea was asked that specific question yet, and so you did sit diagnostics. Diagnostics on the train model you found some of them, some of them as expected but there, there were certain features certain certain aspects you've flown surprising. Yeah. In terms of just the results. Negation, for example. Yeah. So I think that was one of the most striking results that we that we saw. So one of the diagnostics and it's worth noting that all these diagnostics were adapted from an four hundred experiments since they were well suited to looking at a predictive model. So one of the Diagnostics was Using sentences like a robin is a or Aruban is not. And then see what what the model. Assigns high probability to in terms of this completions in that next in the next position and when you say Robin is blank the next word. The MODEL, very high probability to the sensible continuation of bird in. If you just look in the top five continuations it, it finds the correct noun one, hundred percent of the time, which was very impressive. But what happens is if you look at a robin is not a where really anything almost anything but bird would be a correct continuation the the model. Really. Doesn't change much in terms of its top prediction sued the the top. predicted. Words still contain bird and it still assigns a higher probability to bird than, for instance, tree, which would actually be a true in. That case So so what we took away from this was that the model really was not sensitive in at least not an generalize away to the effects that negation has on a context in terms of what would be a reasonable and true continuation. Yes. So NBC, on the Human Brain do from end four, hundred perspective. Yes. Oh similarly, we find that there's reduced and four hundred amplitude on bird. Yet Unburden both in the Arab in his a and are up in his not a context. So this race when when this was identified as a pattern, this raised interesting questions in terms of the brain's processing of negation. Your Hypothesis House and so You know there is the brain sort of jumping ahead in this case bbut as while you see Robin and you kind of you know filling in the filling in the blanks and then you see this north thing in there and you have to basically completely reward scores. is that what's happening of what? Exactly? What? So hypothesis? I think my take essentially is that the There isn't enough information there to make a good prediction, right? So. A Robin is not a is probably wouldn't believe predictive contexts. We we. We might be able to come up with because almost everything you know Structurally sound everything that's announced for instance, could basically everything you go there and so I think that in the absence of. Of A of a good prediction The model really doesn't have much choice other than to try to predict something bird is predictive of sorry rob that Robin is predictive of and so something along those lines. So you know it it backs off essentially to something that is going to be helpful for making a prediction and so this is this is totally reasonable. And understandable from perspective of what this model is trained to do, which is trying to optimally predict words in context if not is not a helpful Q. for making predictions, we wouldn't really expect it necessarily to make a lot of use of that. So and I think that probably there's a similar type of explanation in terms of the four hundred if the brain is not able to. Put together a sufficiently. Useful prediction making use of that not component It may just back off to more of a priming type of effect but we do see in a follow up experiment and this was mentioned also my paper 'cause we looked had a diagnostic that looked at a similar thing for certain context you do see the negation having an effect. If there's enough of a prediction that can be made there I think that the speculation in the paper was these contexts. May, actually be the types of things at the model has actually seen in its training and I think that with humans, there's probably similar type of explanation to be had with respect to those items where humor able to just form of a more informed type of prediction in a shorter amount of time. It's interesting. You know we don't do expert systems anymore But if you think about this, this is probably the simplest of. you know sort of sort of a heuristic that could write as a roar rate I was playing around with a now kate language or prologue in eighty eighties S. In some early and healthy. Type ideas you know here the prediction is anything other than the birds so Assuming that you have a set of random words you could pick one of them anything other than a board would work there and you just have to look for. Ski called not. So so I I wondered you know we have gone now evade from those types of ideas into really impudently keating machines to find things. is there any attempt to to combine some rules and humorous? stuff on top of what we are doing. Yeah there certainly interest in that type of thing people have. Absolutely. Tried sort of wed more symbolic type reasoning with what's perceived to be less symbolic type of reasoning neural networks there there have been some pretty heated debates about a third, the validity, the validity of. Assuming that these two things are mutually exclusive and and the validity of pursuing symbolic approaches Certainly. and. For instance, have have tried to establish. Whether networks might be learning rules Friday you know it's not out of the question that the types of rules that we might be able to come up with exactly as you were describing to just put together a simple rule based system. These could be the types of things in in in theory that that these models could acquire during the learning curve, the learning process, they can be a bit difficult to test for that. Really is exactly the type of thing that you would. You know the thinking about. The type of meaning that negation is of more. Logical Functional Meanings Of these operators they they are they tend to be. concisely expressed in terms of these simple logical rules and so. It does seem like the type of thing that at that. We would like to be able to just build the rule right in it might have stopped this problem and and so yeah I think this is not out of the question that it could be A helpful direction to try to find an efficient hybrid that would. Sort of go ahead and build those rules in rather than trying to figure them out if they aren't easily acquired with the objectives for using. Its I don't know what the you know if if it is having low confidence in prediction maybe you can kick in a heuristic, but this is not the keys here. You have high confidence what you're feeling. prediction, right Yeah I think that the probabilities were out a little bit lower in the negation case, but they were still reasonably reasonably high I. Think. So it's I I think that it's probably a bit lower confidence because. The the context has changed a bit but. It is certainly certainly the second part of that it's failing. That's that's certainly true. Yes. So in conclusion, Allison. At the intersection of computer science and Cognitive Science You see people have the biggest. impact in the next five years. Well I think that there are a couple of directions in which these things can can influence each other in that I would like to see them influence each other so. The. On the one hand, so you're mentioning just now the possibility that served the types of rules that we can come up with as cognitive scientists are as people that the developed formal. Characterizations of of these types of meanings it would be nice if we could make use of those types of things to influence the design of our models to, for instance. Convert them into inductive biases that can make the learning process more efficient as we. Tend to be of the mind that that that human learning of. Language acquisition faster. So it would be nice to be able to do this kind of thing but I think that an even more critical. Way in which this direction of of collaboration can go directions of interdisciplinary. Connection is is. Going back to something that I mentioned in passing earlier. Is Making use of what we know about the outputs that humans produce outcomes that humans produce in terms of these different cognitive tasks, particularly language, and make sure that we're using those in a very controlled and intentional way to. To assess our models effectively because I think there are a lot of we. We really have a lot of challenges right now in terms of effectively evaluating remodels knowing exactly what we need to look for what we mean for instance, by quote unquote understanding and whether we're achieving et Cetera it, it's very complicated type of thing to even wrap your head around much less to to produce effective tests for in. So I, think that cognitive science really has a lot to contribute in terms of that in the other direction. I would love for us to get a little bit more of a handle on. We've we already see some work in terms of people comparing Representations produced by these models are outputs produced by these models to. To the human brain with more of cognitive science type of goal the challenge there is that these models there so much that we already at still do not understand about what's going on in these models, which makes it a challenge to use them. As a proxy for cognitive hypotheses. So even to the extent that we see similarity between them, it's challenging to know exactly what to conclude based on that about the brain so I think that We're going to see a lot more work sort of refining the approaches that were taking seeing what kinds of advantages we can get from the successes of these models in terms of learning more about how how human cognition works year I. Say it's a fascinating idea I was really fascinated. You know thinking about the end four, hundred connection rate. And wondered other other things like that that we could utilize. So. When you say things like that rain responses are getting you know. So we have a fairly clear hypothesis that it sounds to me that. been small complexity less familiarity You can see that amplitude go up. and I was wondering that too similar measurements respond to PG or something else. that might allow us to have a better picture perhaps what the brain is doing. Absolutely. And of course, there are folks. Working constantly on trying to better understand the brain and it's important to note that there's a lot that we still don't understand about the end four hundred component and they are absolutely our other components of the signal bed people also studying another prominent one is the piece hundred which has other properties There are various theories about exactly what's going on with that one, but it often folks will study that one in in tandem with studying the end four hundred. So yeah, there's there there's a host of different phenomena. On the cognitive science side that potentially could be brought to bear in asking questions about about an appeal models and they're certainly potential for using these newer NLP models to to ask questions about you know the types of questions that I've alluded to your things that we still don't understand about this components in about the mechanisms that produce them We just need to be careful when when doing the interdisciplinary work to make sure that we are very clear about the assumptions that were making the goals that we have and. Make. Sure that the tools that were applying are are the right ones and not just the the newest ones. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. This has been great allison Thanks so much was thanked me and of course. Yeah. Good luck. That's all your research at Chicago. Thanks very much. Thank you but.

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Tiny Little Dishwashers

Smart Kitchen Show

24:50 min | 1 year ago

Tiny Little Dishwashers

"Here on this is Mike wolf. This is the editor's roundtable pike as we, we do these every once in a while, I'm gonna try and do more often myself and editor crew, including Christine brick, Jen Marston, and Catherine. Lamb sit around the virtual table and talk about some of the news of the week. And so I hope you enjoy this before we get started just another note. I mentioned this in the last pockets, we are actually going to be renaming the podcast to the food tech show with Michael wolf. And the reason we do that is because we talk about a lot of other things, we talked a lot about kitchen, dex merkin, but also about a what about the things, so we just thought it made more sense. So ski an eye out for that in the next few days will be renaming it. You don't have to do anything if you're subscribe to the podcast describe subscribing, and it'll just change, and you you'll still get it in your pocket your or your podcasts at what do they call it? Whatever they call nowadays, also before we get started, just, wanna mention we're coming down to the last couple of weeks of June, or almost a mid June. And if you want to get the best price on. Takers, you're gonna get further us this year for smart to somebody, you want to go to smart. You some dot com. Use the discount code podcast to get a great discount on top of that. But yeah, if you wanna meet Chris, Catherine myself. Jen Marston and all the other people wanted other be we talked to in the podcast. You want to go to smart to some dot com. We've got a lot of great things plan for this show, which will detailing bailing soon. But just check it out smart to some dot com. All right. That's it for. Now. Let's get to the conversation with soon team. It senators round table. I'm excited have it's been a little while since we've done this guys. Welcome back to the roundtable. Ray. I have the fix today. Our plan use them and plan to use them. So I will use them judiciously. I won't go crazy. But we do have some interesting things to talk about. One of the things I got thinking about guys as I wrote a story this morning, about the Tetra, dishwasher countertop, dishwasher. It was kind of the head of the show two years ago. I wanna buy once to ninety nine MRs dishwasher. That only washes dishes in ten minutes uses away less water. I have asked you as who would use one of these because I think I would I don't know if my wife would but Catherine. I think you learned an apartment, would you want one of these things? Well, I don't think I really saw it at sea ESO. I'm wondering like, how many dishes can help bigger retaking here? It's like a place setting. If you have a dinner with a friend, it'll wash that pretty much that's about it. You know, I just feel like it almost be more work and do small counter effort than to just like wash it in by sink. But, you know, I also I don't know like if it looks really cool with it seems. It doesn't the photo unite could see that being something that I eventually get. Okay. Well that answers wrong Jen, you're agreed. Agreed. Sinn. Can you give the correct answer? I will try hopefully there's a sound effect to indicate if I have. So actually, I would buy one of these in a heartbeat and that's for a couple of reasons. One is there. I've spent Maya don't life living in cities where a dishwasher is on. It's not a guarantee. I don't think one apartment, I lived in all my years in San Francisco, had a dishwasher and one so far my New York apartments have had a dishwasher. So seems like a luxury to me to actually have any kind of device that will wash the dishes. To, you know, for me if it's just, you know, a day's worth of dishes for one person or maybe two people tops that machine like that could handle, I think it makes a lot of sense because otherwise you know, if you've got like a regular size, dishwasher. What are you gonna wait every week to run it while it fills up? So, I think in certain situations, it makes much more sense than one of the regular sized ones. I think there's a lot of situations where it wouldn't make sense. If you've got a family of six, for example, but need personally, yes, I would definitely use that machine. All right. You win the prize. Defects. Chris, it sounds like you would want one as well. Yeah. Look, I have a dishwasher in. I would still want one of these smart this crazy. I like gadgets, but I also like, there are times when I just want to run a quick thing. And I don't want to that you, you shouldn't run the dishwasher, if it's not full. And they're just they're just wanted to glasses. I don't wanna wash or whatever and have them available or quick, rinse plus in it instead of it being in the Saint like this will get a heat work is a heating company. So like this will get it hot enough to really, you know, clean the dishes, instead of just some crusty old scrub brush that sitting in you know in a Cup on the side of the same with, with tepid water or you know, kind of hot water, but not super hot. Anyway, I'm in. I think it's great. I still want one. I don't need one. Same. The thing. First of all, it looks great. It's like the sexiest dishwasher oversee second. I do think like the the environmental footprint. Like the mount water uses is way last, which I like that concept, and I feel like there's tons of people in smaller places like in apartment in New York City, or awake somewhere in Tokyo that may be would just want a small run or if you just have a specific use case like you have babies, and you wanna run baby bottles. I think it makes sense. But guys, this is just a warm up for the next topic because we're going to have, I think we're gonna we're gonna per ways, I think it would have been on this next. Offic Kathy nudity might be break up. We made since fractures you had a great wrap up this, this week or away last week Katherine on grilling plant base meet, and inspired by you. I actually went out and bought some beyond burgers, because my mom was coming over my mom and dad. And we barbecued generally, I will say this we we weren't happy with, with the beyond burgers, most everyone around the table. My mom my wife and I just didn't like the taste of it. But you and Chris really love these things. Well lay out your qualms for me. I'm curious like what did you not like that? Well, I will say either two thick like I don't know why that to make him. So thick be I just have a problem with the color being to pink, like, I don't necessarily need a like an inch thick raw beef. Patty, which that's an impression I get and see. And this is middle. Probably because there's one point. Oh, and I know that the news is coming out that the rolling on two point. Oh, it just the mouth feel and the taste was a little bit off in my, my wife had a problem with is, she just thought the tastes off and it gets back that article that I always refer to that. Alba's aria wrote the idea of the uncanny valley meat is like ten percent off wink. What the taste should be from relief. Those just a little bit weird. Yeah. I mean, I'll go first and then let Chris jumping. So I know he's a vocal advocate of beyond meat as I and full disclosure. I don't eat regular meat. So I know that my view might be skewed, but I do like beyond me the people that I've said it to, like, when I did Mike grilling test last week. I had a couple of friends over who are meters, they were schooled or anything like they knew it's beyond me. I still think it just tastes good. Like I actually had one this weekend with my family my mom and I split one. She's like, yeah, I don't think it's need. It's got this sort of, like spongy texture, that isn't quite be flake. But the flavor is really good. And it's got that nice like mommy nece that you get from a religious beefburger. So I still just like it. Yeah. I again, I had it to my family. My son doesn't even know the difference admittedly, he's only eight writes, some he has a ton, but heeds burger seeds regular beefburgers. I've fed him beyond burgers. I've just not told him and he doesn't care you just he mouths it down. I agree with you. It's not perfect. But I'm also not looking for it to be a neat. It's not looking. I don't want to eat meat basically, the reasons I'm eating it are more like environmental and ethical more than anything, and that's not even a vegetarian. But I'm curious to try this new recipe that they just released this week. Right. Like. Downst- it today. And they're really trying to address the textures to I think the main difference, is that it now has what they're calling marveling like beef. So the fat kind of instead of it weaves throughout in a way that's supposed to melt and make the texture better in the fat is cooking oil in cocoa butter and also Mike to address your point about it being this eerie pink, which it is it's worth almost neon because it uses twos, the added apple extract in there. So that when you cook the burger, it turns from bright pink, to a more Brown color, and apparently looks more like beef. So, you know, they hear complaints were not the only one I'm eager to see if the new version. I'm all trying second recipe in a giant Amine, interrupt. You. I also wonder like if I wonder if it's because I'm cooking or versus a restaurant because I'll tell you, I like impossible, a lot more the flavor of it in every time I have it. It's in, like a, a red Robin or restaurant, where they seem to know what they're doing. So I, I have yet to have a beyond burger in a restaurant. I just wonder if it make a difference. Yeah. New actually read my mind, Mike Kazakhs what I was gonna bring up was Catherine. Obviously, you have a lot of experience with cooking beyond meat products, especially since you don't eat meat me. And Chris, I know you really enthusiastic about trying out all those different products. So my issue that I always run into his, I just don't like the taste of them because I've always assumed I just don't know how to cook them properly. New to read the instructions on the box. It seems pretty straightforward but whenever. I've been trying to enjoy beyond burgers, pretty much. They were available to buy in stores. I just feel like either the heat distribution within the Patty is off or impact about the texture or they just sort of, you know. They taste. I mean not like meat, but there's also something a little bit artificial about the tastes to me, which is not compare that to just a grass-fed burger in. It's just it doesn't stack up to me. Well, that's a lot of people have to like it's artificiality people are starting to push back against that saying it's actually healthy. Is it a better term than just getting inorganic grass-fed burger four eager body? You know there's a lot of debate around that unethical coughing. You're just you're reciting the talk. You pointing me are you are? You are you in the pocket of big meat. No, not favorable. But he talking about. I think it can be a little tricky to I've had trouble dislike frying it, the best results, I've had are like, roasting it in June, which has a special beyond burger program. Attack, and before that I use just for the regular burgers. But I have noticed like it gets really easy to sort of scorch the outside on like a grill. And so, I think it definitely is there are some tricks to sort of finesse it to get everything to bring it all up. But yet you Jen Mike bokram. So there we go. Next topic. We do have another topic. And this is one that I think is interesting. Chris, you wrote a piece this week about essentially, what is becoming the robot backlash as grocery stores and restaurants. Roll out. These robots workers are wondering what their places in this future. And then some of the people in aisles are gonna little bit creeped out tells about. Yeah. So we write about a lot about robots here and grocery get. Walmart and a whole del Hayes. I don't know if I pronounced that correctly, but stop and shop have employed these, we're gonna split it out to front of house robots right? Like these are like shelf scanning robots in spill detecting, robots that are basically tall. I think they're like six feet tall or something Celikkol things that roam around on wheels. Stop and shop even puts googly eyes on there for Lord knows why. Disturbance, but what's happened is ideally robots are supposed to take over the manual. Repetitive tasks, even the dangerous tasks to free up humans to do other things? That's what WalMart always says. Right. Like you can humans can do more customer service, if they don't have to do a restock have don't have to roam the aisles to see if there's any missing, you know, Nestle's quick from the isle, but what's happening is that I think what we're seeing sort of version one point. Oh of all this, where the robots are still kind of buggy. They don't work like they're supposed to they're expensive like the stop and shop mardi robot. I believe is thirty five thousand dollars, and they're sort of limited in functionality. You know, Marty literally just goes around looking for spills, but doesn't do anything about it just evidently gets on the intercom and goes their cleanup on aisle, four, or whatever, disrepute Headley until someone comes and cleans it up, which I would be annoyed by that, too. So you know, it's tough, and also people just don't know how to interact them, when they're shopping is. I've never I they are no robots where I shop right now and I don't know how I would react. I mean, well, I would be all giddy and take pictures. But you know, if you're the average person to shopping, and there's a giant robot blasting a light down. You know, a row of shelves as it's taking inventory, you may not that's not something you expect. The googly eyes are funny. Like, I think they're trying to make them cute name, like have a personality, but it almost seems like it's having the opposite effect, like what's up the gigantic is on this thing. Well, yeah, because it's like looking at you and it's like the Kiwi boat autonomous delivery. They have a face that changes expression, and that serves a purpose of like trying to get people to empathize with robot. Not mess with it while it's out delivering new year. Your late night burrito, or whatever. But in the grocery aisles, I will I think they just did a weird way with the as 'cause like just is creepy. As all get out, a tall isn't a recall is the Jona Ryan of robots. The Joe odd of nightmares. Well, I think also as I wrote like this seems to be sort of a short term issue, especially when it comes to things like inventory management in spill detection, because there are a bunch of startups trying to retrofit like retrofit retailers with high tech cameras and sensors that basically like an Amazon echo that keep track of everything in the store, all the time and faster than a robot would. So this type of implementation is probably, you know, may not be the best, but it's also like more of a stop, I think you think they're still going to be a lot of automation back without cell for grocery. I think so there you look at companies like take off, which is partnered with Sodano 's in albertson's a delays. And those are more for, like speedy fulfillment, bay are these systems on rails in totes that can quickly process in online order in like a half an hour so that you could be at home or on the go, and go like, oh I need to pick up a bunch of stuff. Hop on your phone. Shop for it. Swing by. Pick it up, or it could be out for delivery, but those are more about logistics and getting things out quickly. And those don't people don't interact with those, those are literally in the back of the store, or in some dedicated warehouse, so you don't have any sort of creepy factor with those, you know, last story of the day will at least we up for topic. I want I want to ask you, if you'd be into someone from WalMart, a delivery person coming into your house, and dropping off your groceries in your fridge because this is something that they basically unveiled this past week. It was thank you. Walmart, it was approach this thing called project Franklin speck who what project Franklin was then Mike, a day later that she came out and told us what was which may, I would have waited a day ischemia that's up. But more seriously. It's decided where they have like a August doorbell or smart, walk at the front door damn access through an app because you've opted in, and then they deliver the grocery drop them off into your 'fridgerator. And you get them when you get home. So it makes a little bit of sense, right? Like you don't have your fridge. You don't have grocery sitting in front door getting cold getting warm milk getting warm up. But also, it does have some, some concerns for some people, I think having someone you don't know, come into your house, so privacy concerns, having access to your, your home, so I have to ask you a gen would you want some WalMart dude, just walking in house or dropping off groceries in your fridge? I mean was this did they mention anything about do? They background check these people or anything like that. You know they didn't. I'm sure they do, but they didn't. They said training specific training a mean to me, it's not that creepy of an idea to be honest because I think of something like. Housekeeping services where, you know, whether you're going through some company, or it's just somebody that you happen to know their plenty of people out there who. Give set of keys to their housekeeper. Those people go in and take care of the house while they're out. You know, I mean and they're moving stuff around. I don't think it's any more potentially creepy, or invasive privacy than other services that already exists governor about you. Yeah. I personally wouldn't use the service. It doesn't bother me. Like, I like Jen said, I mean, the idea of having, like a housekeeper converse, something doesn't really bother me. I feel like if there's a background check which inevitably assuming there will be. It doesn't bother me from like a privacy standpoint. It's more like first of all, I like actually go shopping for my groceries, like many Americans, do, so, I wouldn't really want order them online, and then I also like at a very exacting way read, put on this stuff away, like something's in this part of the food, some places in this part of the fridge pantry is very organized, and I don't know if the person putting all that stuff away. Would adhere to my strict kitchen orders issued guidelines that's me. I did pull my parents on this, like little more old school traditional, and they were like very off put by this idea like laughably thought it was so invasive. Do your parents do things like Airbnb year Uber or like kind of those new school. I actually they don't really force them to do an Airbnb for this Bakke shin that we just went on. And they were like really weirded out by it. So maybe not just goes along with that. Like they're not in the sharing economy, mindset. I wonder I wonder if it's a little bit generational. Those who are like a Chris knowledge firmly in the gen-x camp. We're, we're probably just more adventurous because they let you try to new technology. But I do think there's a generational thing here, where people might just be okay with letting people have access to their home. If they're younger Chris, are you? Okay. This. I'm not. But then again, I'm not younger but the one thing we should say, is that the delivery person apply. Upon. So you grant them access to your house and upon arrival they start. They livestream the entire time you know, as they're approaching the door, and as they go into the house. Right. So there is an app. You can watch the entire process on, so it's not like you're just like oh, yeah, go on and do whatever you want, right? Like, there are WalMart is put in place. You know, the driver will wear a camera. So there is that. If I correct me if I'm wrong, I think Amazon had a similar kind of drop off the things in your home using their, their key platform, and I think that they also had tied to a an in video in home video recording concept where they're basically allowing you to monitor what's going on. They flipped it a little bit to the cameras. You get the cloud connected camera that they were so the driver isn't wearing one but you have access to your street. You stream the entire thing, right? It sends you all kinds of alerts. I'm just waiting for like, the, the, the reality TV merging of this, like grocery lake instead of cops you have grocery workers. Well, no. I think we've just stumbled on the new division of the, the spoon. Yeah. Reality programming. I would rather than letting somebody into my house, one of the things you see happening in China in apartment buildings that I think, JD dot com came up with or Alibaba. I can't remember now is the sort of temperature controlled lockers, that sit outside your home, and I would much rather see a system where like you either build out into a new home, some kind of delivery drop off, like almost like you're turning in books at the library, like some, some kind of lock shelf. That uses a smart lock that they could drop it into with some temperature control facets. So then it's, it's less. Somebody coming into my house and more being able to have that flexibility for something to be dropped off without it's spoiling before I got home to be honest, that idea of a, like a lot bought lock box outside your home is one that I'm surpri-. Hasn't taken off. I actually have a friend who had she was Duke by my podcast, quite a bit. When I did smart, I'm showing a guy named Joe Joe throughout there. He's actually trying to build one of these. And so I think that there's a possibility for this. I think giving consumers a range of options. One of these Amazon done is allow people to drop things off in the in the trunk of your car. I think they've also opened up garage base delivery. I just think everyone has their own peculiarities and living situation. So this is I think one of a menu of options, I think that the grander idea is just creating like like a service platform to allow people to deliver in whatever into whatever receptacle that you have available, and I think that you'll August going back to kinda of smart on world, office, smart lock was really the one the pioneer this concept of making the smart walk least a service platform running disappears hardware. So I do think this idea of a neighbouring and using technology to offer delivery is going to be a way more important as we move towards like this World War, it seems like everyone's having here. Deliver. Right. So I just feel like this is something is going to gain traction, but kudos to your point, I think the idea of like a safe delivery boxes when I think should get more traction. I don't know why no one's really taken off of that for like one kit's. Right. But not for Bertrand delivered to your home. Well, yeah, I mean, this would be, you know, it's the, the idea of I've seen places I at CBS, like people have built a door with, like a collapsible cargo thing in built into the back. But, you know, I think the idea of adding some sort of temperature control to it would be, and who knows you know, Amazon bought into that. That housing prefab housing company last year. Maybe they'll build an Amazon, you know. Either home for their robot or a drop off, boss. Mart partial box. Right. This is all until Amazon has that robot. The goes in fetches your milk for you brings it back. That's what I play. No, we'll see who's against robots. Then when they have smart robot robot milk. Fetter. Well guys, this has been fun as always. I appreciate you getting on the on the call. And I hope you enjoyed this new podcast format was sound effects. I don't know if we're going to bring them back, what can take audience poll. Do we bring sound effects back? Let's go around the horn, Catherine more. Sonics absolutely. Chris. Yeah. If you could in that David Lee, Roth soundboard. That'd be even better. I only have two right now. I'm sorry, guys give a guy like me soundboard, Michael little kid. So I appreciate it. Jen sound effects. Oh, always. Yeah. I'd say, we're always all right. Animus were unanimous will bring back. That doesn't mean the audience likes. No, that's true. I thought Dottie soon. Thanks.

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How often do Swiss people use other Swiss languages?

Swiss and Chips

20:44 min | 2 years ago

How often do Swiss people use other Swiss languages?

"This is Swiss on chips, you'll British guy to Switzerland. Hello. I'm bokram T Swiss I'm champs. I'm Jay, and I'm C one-seat. So in this episode, we're going to be talking about the four languages that. They have in Switzerland three four, exactly. But before we get to that we want to say Hello to everybody. He came to our meet up last week. It was great. That was really nice was small. But really nice has to be said. And big. Thank you to everyone who came and I had a great time. Yeah. We basically asked in our Facebook group, Switzerland English-speakers if you want to check it out if anyone wanted to meet, and then we had to look at. I think would again had the group is really really developing super nicely because people are talking to each other and helping each other, and yeah, it was really nice to see all these people interacting, and then we thought let's meet them. Yeah. Some faces to names. Exactly. Also from the group, by the way, we had a feedback to our last episode. The episode was I think it was about how to make friends since that's exactly and cocoa. She was also at meeting not a meeting or meet up. She was means help meet up so special. Hello from us. She said how to make friends in Switzerland? She wrote in our Facebook group. Sorry forgot to make suggestions on that. But of course, talks that will always be the icebreaker and show commune nullity Joe. But I'll go with it. Okay. I mean, she means probably that you're together. Yeah. Dogs are a great way to break the ice base. And I would agree with that has a person who doesn't have a dog because I often want to destroy other people's Dokes, and then you can't help but get chatting and she says since I have two docks. I now my two friends. So that's great great for her. And I think it's a great advice as well. If you have talks, I think, you're one step ahead. Totally. But don't forget a dog is not just for Christmas. Good. So we had a question actually that came in via our website and also went onto our Facebook group. Yeah. From Ted Greenwood, it's quite interesting. So you must be extremely motivated to come to Switzerland. Because it came through our website. He recorded an audio file for us was really nice what you can do as well. Just make record an audio on your phone, and then send it to us via Email, for example, or you go on our website, Swiss and chips dot com, and then you will see there is a little bit. Yeah. There's a button you can just click and record it straightaway. I so I think just let's play it and hear what his question is a Lou. I am currently living in Canada and wanted to get a working holiday visa to go to Switzerland to meet up with my friend. I was just wondering how hard it is to get a job there. Basically of what I'm looking for it kind of is telling me that I have to play for the job first. And then they have to ask me to come to the country. But I have a friend over there right now. Let's just oh pairing up just wondering if you could just go there with working holiday these on just find a job if that's at all possible. Just what the steps are basically any kind of information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. So that was Ted who left voice message on our website, and he'll say pasted in Facebook group as well. And basically, he's a Canadian he's trying to get a work these Switzerland. And he was wondering if anybody had any advice before trying to apply or any help on finding jobs that he had it's a little bit different from of working holiday visas. Yeah, thing is he as I understood he comes with the friend. So his friend already has a job. They want to move to Switzerland with him. And then in Switzerland look for a job. So. So I think that's quite interesting case and he had loads of replies. From our users there. Yeah. Exactly am well, a couple of people asking a doc- speakers with language dolls French that's going to be extremely helpful in trying to get Japan. Be what kind of experience he has what kind of filled he works. What kind of job he wants to apply? And also, I think what's important what education you have because the higher education the bigger chance that you will find Joe and say somebody right there are some seasonal jobs available in hospitality in the ski areas. But it's only a short season. And this is quite an interesting thing because you can come and do a ski season basically of winter or summer season. Yeah. And then you coming to work for a few months, basically. Yeah. One is high tourism season, and you might work as a skiing teacher or in a restaurant or some something. But then the employers can basically apply for short-term visas to these. People and it's quite well established executive, but as he is not in the U. It's a little bit more complicated, doesn't it exactly? Basically. Does it kind of high? Rocky of how easy it is to get a job. And the recent development is employers have to try and offer their jobs to people who are already here. Whether it's the Swiss old people who already in the area, and that's by advertising nabs likely, then you've got the kind of next rank down, and that's people coming from EU countries who have it sort of slightly easier to try and find a job at the moment. And then you've got the kind of next rank down, which is people from outside e and I also think after countries, and it's even harder for them to get a job. Yeah. Exactly. The kind of hierarchy of nationalities and trying to get a job in Switzerland. Take the employer has to prove for example, if they wanted to employ someone from a country, that's nothing. They'd have to prove that they couldn't find the person to seat this job who wasn't Swiss wasn't from an EU country. Exactly. I think we made one episode who is about how to find a job in Switzerland. There. We also touched a bit this topic. And I think we can link it in this episode and also one us gave him the link C, H dot C H. I think that's also a good. You are L to go to and ultimate dot C H as also very good your L where you always can have look how. It's all about kind of how things work in Switzerland. Exactly. Yes. And also the visas staff and everything is there. But I think in general, it's so difficult if you're a non e you person, then it's quite complicated. So I would recommend just give call to the Swiss embassy where you are living at the moment. So Ted, I think if I were you just write an Email or give a call to the Swiss embassy in embassy in Canada, and they will help you. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. But it's as it's such a complicated topic. We might make a separate episode once only about that. Because also I will put need to look it up how in detail. Everything works. Yeah. True. It's different from country to country there. So this week we went to see the light show at the federal palace in Bern. And this is something that happens every autumn in bun, and they make a giant projection basically onto the front of the federal palace or the Benda's house. Sometimes they tell a bit of a story. Yeah. The the light show at the boondocks houses every year, and it's always for like three weeks or something during November before they set up ice skating rink on the pundits plots, which is really exciting. I think. And the light show is projecting. Fill more something this it exactly a short, film, usually. And you can watch for free. You just go to the pundits plots watch it on pundits house and. Get inspired. Yeah. Exactly. This year's topic is look at the pass roughly translated as Bill so prince, which brings me to my next point this year. The small prints. But okay. Fries. I've been a twice lineup prints hoop reckons, by the way in German. Exactly. So the light show which happens every year, I've been times before and have pretty much been able to understand it. Because the point of a light show is you go that's to look at the lights. However this year was a big surprise for both us. Can you explain a little bit more? What the light show is. Or is that totally clear to everyone because that was quite exciting. For Swiss people, I think. I don't know it can only speak for myself. But it's just a big production of lights on exactly something like music and know somebody talking and it's on the whole boondocks house. So it's really extremely in the animation. It's the light projects exactly at the Bundestag. For example. There is also the end up on this house in different colors. And so on that is sort of unusual thing about Ross's doesn't move. Yeah. They make use of the building behind exam, which is maybe a little bit different. So like, for example, the. Small prints. What did you say that little prints a little print? He climbs up to the top of the boondocks house. Yes. Like climbing along the the stones and so on and the different columns and stuff, and he sits on the window. Yes. Things. Like, exactly. So they kind of play with the structure of the building and the light. Yeah. I it's a must see if you're in Switzerland around Ben then you should go and see it at least once. Yeah. Definitely. So there's surprise this year the us or the maybe we would have if we had read more about it before we went was that they were telling this story, but they were telling it in French. So there wasn't constant speaking. But at some point in during the light projection, somebody speaks exactly and it was on Francais. Yeah. Which was surprising to me because of it. Well, I can't speak French, and I hadn't really expected that. And I didn't really understand what was going on. And I thought God my. Any person standing he doesn't understand this now, and I turned around to even the other people with and I also saw some somewhat confused faces. Well, which me to my question, which was you know? As when something is put on Switzerland. And we're pretty much in the middle of the country hair. You could maybe get by with French. But it's more often people speaking German true is the expectation that you can speak more than one national language. You know, is there an expectation? They can put on a light show do in French and that'll be fine for everyone. Well, first of all the two kinds of confused faces. I think on in our in our spot where we were it was quite far behind. So we couldn't really hear us. Well, what they were talking about. And that was the one kind and daughter who didn't understand French at all so mine was a bit of both. So I would say in Switzerland, you have to learn a second national language at school. And so everyone basically nose at least the basics of one second language, so but not everyone's speaks fluently a second language like me, for example, French solo we saw what you did that not all allow. Anyway. So, but it's also very much depends where you live and work, for example, when you live and work in. A city where you speak two languages, for example, peel PIN Bill otherwise known as Bill or free book. Fry book people are right. Then you would speak very often two languages at work as well. Also depends where you work in pen, for example, if you work at the embassy, and you might work French very often. So we should say that the country is basically divided by language barriers. And it's not that these bilingual towns scattered all over the country. It's we have to kind of French side of Geneva in have the Swiss German side with Zurich in it got the Italian part of chino rematch corner. And then where these places meet in the middle. You'll get these bilingual towns or cities by state by flying coach you show that very nicely to me. No, I'm not sure. Basically, you can say in the north east is German and the west is French in the south east is talian and in the east and a little bit. You know, all over the place in the east is on small spots is through March. So and Germany's most often spoken like sixty percent. Roughly French is maybe twenty percent and Italian ten percent and Romansch basically less than one percent and. English for example. I saw around five percent. So that's also great great more. Ramon ch- at least no patent half of the Italian almost as much as it talen spoken. So and like you said where it is parts. Meet the cities are often bilingual. Yep. Yeah. So that's basically, and when you work. Usually, you only have to speak one language, but then in these borders, you speak, maybe two quite often. But one is usually enough and almost everywhere you can speak English as well at work, at least on many places. So do you think is a sort of reasonable expectation to put something on in the capital and expect that people will understand something in French given that the majority of the population, don't speak as their first language? What do you think about that? Because I thought it was unusual. But then I thought well, maybe that's just how it isn't Switzerland. Both it was unusual. But I I must say I haven't read about it. But I assumed that they also want to set the sign that we are not only German. We are all yes, we are not only German speaking, we are French-Italian, Andrew Manch. So. Burnt Ben is to capital, and we speak German there. But as a capitalist also represents whole, Switzerland. So it's I think it's very good that is French as well because that makes also aware of our culture. Okay. So I'll see you're disappointed face. No. That is nice because. Yeah. I guess the French Pont is small, but it doesn't mean that there are any less important. Of course. So why shouldn't the light show in French? Exactly. That's it. I mean, bombed us plots there is the fountains with the holes and each fountain has. Is rip represents one canton? And so I think that's the same thing though. We have each canton, and all languages. Yeah. It gets normal. And I think I've said this before, but before I moved here, I imagined that everybody in the country will be speaking four languages just sort of whenever they felt like it, basically, obviously, it's not like that. They are definitely speak one one and a half. I would say, yeah. And how much does how much do the other languages come into your daily life? And do you think that's pretty average? My daily life. If my life is average. No, no, no. I mean. Yeah. I know what you mean. I would say I see it from time to time, for example at the light show at the light show. Also at the end are different languages or. When they say, thank you, and all these kind of small things, or when you watch the Swiss German television there sometimes it's Romansch or you switch through your channels. And you see also the Swiss channels or infringe and Italian, and yeah, I think that's normal that sometimes you just see them somewhere. It takes bit of getting used to doesn't it? But it's pretty nice. I think. Those who can I think it's one interesting puzzle of Switzerland. I think also these different culture makes it more interesting. Because for example, they talion part of Switzerland. It's tiny bit Italian. The French part is a tiny bit more French. Yeah. Definitely and. And. Yeah. So these mixture is quite nice. So you can travel the short right by train. And then you have almost feeling of bit on holidays. Definitely just before we recorded this podcast. We posted in our Facebook group, Switzerland English because if anybody had any questions about how the language mix works in Switzerland and have a right. Thank you very much for writing Heather. And she said she's new just moved to sick last week from the UK say, first of all, welcome hope. It's going say fall. And she said could we explain when hi gentleman hawk which is used versus Swiss German Schweitzer joint. And she said, she doesn't really understand when each one is used is high Jaman used informal settings for example. It's very competing. Yes. Had I agree. And I'm going to put your question to assist German expert. Well, they're so in the group Emma has already replied to her. So that's very nice thank Salah my to send to this question is high German is our official. How did you say for all written things Swiss German is only? Eastern spoken language. Exactly. And we have not really a grammar or something. So for example, the newspaper and television and radio quite often. It's an hydrothermal. But then if we talk to each other, it's all interest German so that can be extremely formal. For example, job interview that is German, but something very informal. Maybe. Joke in a newspaper can be written in high German. So and high German is just what we learn. Also, I'm spring simple. So at school. We would also talk quite often high German almost always but between friends or schoolmates, obviously. Not. So speaking always with German brightening almost always high German. The only exception is if you right between friends, for example, on what's up or something a message than you may be right in Swiss German or. Yeah. That's but there there are no rules. That's more like Slann. Cou Swiss German in a show hate the answer to your question. Heather, yeah. Me too. Extremely complicated. But I'm not sure there is also one episode where we talk about Swiss German hydrophone, listen to that as well paced you a link if you've got any more questions about how the different languages used. Maybe wanna hear us say something in Romanche, for example. Please right. I'm we'll try and lend something around Allegra, Joe Mitch got peanuts much. Yes. Yes. I am so impressed. Okay. We can't better that lets you.

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How often do Swiss people use other Swiss languages?

Swiss and Chips

20:44 min | 2 years ago

How often do Swiss people use other Swiss languages?

"This is Swiss on chips, you'll British guy to Switzerland. Hello. I'm bokram T Swiss I'm champs. I'm Jay, and I'm C one-seat. So in this episode, we're going to be talking about the four languages that. They have in Switzerland three four, exactly. But before we get to that we want to say Hello to everybody. He came to our meet up last week. It was great. That was really nice was small. But really nice has to be said. And big. Thank you to everyone who came and I had a great time. Yeah. We basically asked in our Facebook group, Switzerland English-speakers if you want to check it out if anyone wanted to meet, and then we had to look at. I think would again had the group is really really developing super nicely because people are talking to each other and helping each other, and yeah, it was really nice to see all these people interacting, and then we thought let's meet them. Yeah. Some faces to names. Exactly. Also from the group, by the way, we had a feedback to our last episode. The episode was I think it was about how to make friends since that's exactly and cocoa. She was also at meeting not a meeting or meet up. She was means help meet up so special. Hello from us. She said how to make friends in Switzerland? She wrote in our Facebook group. Sorry forgot to make suggestions on that. But of course, talks that will always be the icebreaker and show commune nullity Joe. But I'll go with it. Okay. I mean, she means probably that you're together. Yeah. Dogs are a great way to break the ice base. And I would agree with that has a person who doesn't have a dog because I often want to destroy other people's Dokes, and then you can't help but get chatting and she says since I have two docks. I now my two friends. So that's great great for her. And I think it's a great advice as well. If you have talks, I think, you're one step ahead. Totally. But don't forget a dog is not just for Christmas. Good. So we had a question actually that came in via our website and also went onto our Facebook group. Yeah. From Ted Greenwood, it's quite interesting. So you must be extremely motivated to come to Switzerland. Because it came through our website. He recorded an audio file for us was really nice what you can do as well. Just make record an audio on your phone, and then send it to us via Email, for example, or you go on our website, Swiss and chips dot com, and then you will see there is a little bit. Yeah. There's a button you can just click and record it straightaway. I so I think just let's play it and hear what his question is a Lou. I am currently living in Canada and wanted to get a working holiday visa to go to Switzerland to meet up with my friend. I was just wondering how hard it is to get a job there. Basically of what I'm looking for it kind of is telling me that I have to play for the job first. And then they have to ask me to come to the country. But I have a friend over there right now. Let's just oh pairing up just wondering if you could just go there with working holiday these on just find a job if that's at all possible. Just what the steps are basically any kind of information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. So that was Ted who left voice message on our website, and he'll say pasted in Facebook group as well. And basically, he's a Canadian he's trying to get a work these Switzerland. And he was wondering if anybody had any advice before trying to apply or any help on finding jobs that he had it's a little bit different from of working holiday visas. Yeah, thing is he as I understood he comes with the friend. So his friend already has a job. They want to move to Switzerland with him. And then in Switzerland look for a job. So. So I think that's quite interesting case and he had loads of replies. From our users there. Yeah. Exactly am well, a couple of people asking a doc- speakers with language dolls French that's going to be extremely helpful in trying to get Japan. Be what kind of experience he has what kind of filled he works. What kind of job he wants to apply? And also, I think what's important what education you have because the higher education the bigger chance that you will find Joe and say somebody right there are some seasonal jobs available in hospitality in the ski areas. But it's only a short season. And this is quite an interesting thing because you can come and do a ski season basically of winter or summer season. Yeah. And then you coming to work for a few months, basically. Yeah. One is high tourism season, and you might work as a skiing teacher or in a restaurant or some something. But then the employers can basically apply for short-term visas to these. People and it's quite well established executive, but as he is not in the U. It's a little bit more complicated, doesn't it exactly? Basically. Does it kind of high? Rocky of how easy it is to get a job. And the recent development is employers have to try and offer their jobs to people who are already here. Whether it's the Swiss old people who already in the area, and that's by advertising nabs likely, then you've got the kind of next rank down, and that's people coming from EU countries who have it sort of slightly easier to try and find a job at the moment. And then you've got the kind of next rank down, which is people from outside e and I also think after countries, and it's even harder for them to get a job. Yeah. Exactly. The kind of hierarchy of nationalities and trying to get a job in Switzerland. Take the employer has to prove for example, if they wanted to employ someone from a country, that's nothing. They'd have to prove that they couldn't find the person to seat this job who wasn't Swiss wasn't from an EU country. Exactly. I think we made one episode who is about how to find a job in Switzerland. There. We also touched a bit this topic. And I think we can link it in this episode and also one us gave him the link C, H dot C H. I think that's also a good. You are L to go to and ultimate dot C H as also very good your L where you always can have look how. It's all about kind of how things work in Switzerland. Exactly. Yes. And also the visas staff and everything is there. But I think in general, it's so difficult if you're a non e you person, then it's quite complicated. So I would recommend just give call to the Swiss embassy where you are living at the moment. So Ted, I think if I were you just write an Email or give a call to the Swiss embassy in embassy in Canada, and they will help you. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. But it's as it's such a complicated topic. We might make a separate episode once only about that. Because also I will put need to look it up how in detail. Everything works. Yeah. True. It's different from country to country there. So this week we went to see the light show at the federal palace in Bern. And this is something that happens every autumn in bun, and they make a giant projection basically onto the front of the federal palace or the Benda's house. Sometimes they tell a bit of a story. Yeah. The the light show at the boondocks houses every year, and it's always for like three weeks or something during November before they set up ice skating rink on the pundits plots, which is really exciting. I think. And the light show is projecting. Fill more something this it exactly a short, film, usually. And you can watch for free. You just go to the pundits plots watch it on pundits house and. Get inspired. Yeah. Exactly. This year's topic is look at the pass roughly translated as Bill so prince, which brings me to my next point this year. The small prints. But okay. Fries. I've been a twice lineup prints hoop reckons, by the way in German. Exactly. So the light show which happens every year, I've been times before and have pretty much been able to understand it. Because the point of a light show is you go that's to look at the lights. However this year was a big surprise for both us. Can you explain a little bit more? What the light show is. Or is that totally clear to everyone because that was quite exciting. For Swiss people, I think. I don't know it can only speak for myself. But it's just a big production of lights on exactly something like music and know somebody talking and it's on the whole boondocks house. So it's really extremely in the animation. It's the light projects exactly at the Bundestag. For example. There is also the end up on this house in different colors. And so on that is sort of unusual thing about Ross's doesn't move. Yeah. They make use of the building behind exam, which is maybe a little bit different. So like, for example, the. Small prints. What did you say that little prints a little print? He climbs up to the top of the boondocks house. Yes. Like climbing along the the stones and so on and the different columns and stuff, and he sits on the window. Yes. Things. Like, exactly. So they kind of play with the structure of the building and the light. Yeah. I it's a must see if you're in Switzerland around Ben then you should go and see it at least once. Yeah. Definitely. So there's surprise this year the us or the maybe we would have if we had read more about it before we went was that they were telling this story, but they were telling it in French. So there wasn't constant speaking. But at some point in during the light projection, somebody speaks exactly and it was on Francais. Yeah. Which was surprising to me because of it. Well, I can't speak French, and I hadn't really expected that. And I didn't really understand what was going on. And I thought God my. Any person standing he doesn't understand this now, and I turned around to even the other people with and I also saw some somewhat confused faces. Well, which me to my question, which was you know? As when something is put on Switzerland. And we're pretty much in the middle of the country hair. You could maybe get by with French. But it's more often people speaking German true is the expectation that you can speak more than one national language. You know, is there an expectation? They can put on a light show do in French and that'll be fine for everyone. Well, first of all the two kinds of confused faces. I think on in our in our spot where we were it was quite far behind. So we couldn't really hear us. Well, what they were talking about. And that was the one kind and daughter who didn't understand French at all so mine was a bit of both. So I would say in Switzerland, you have to learn a second national language at school. And so everyone basically nose at least the basics of one second language, so but not everyone's speaks fluently a second language like me, for example, French solo we saw what you did that not all allow. Anyway. So, but it's also very much depends where you live and work, for example, when you live and work in. A city where you speak two languages, for example, peel PIN Bill otherwise known as Bill or free book. Fry book people are right. Then you would speak very often two languages at work as well. Also depends where you work in pen, for example, if you work at the embassy, and you might work French very often. So we should say that the country is basically divided by language barriers. And it's not that these bilingual towns scattered all over the country. It's we have to kind of French side of Geneva in have the Swiss German side with Zurich in it got the Italian part of chino rematch corner. And then where these places meet in the middle. You'll get these bilingual towns or cities by state by flying coach you show that very nicely to me. No, I'm not sure. Basically, you can say in the north east is German and the west is French in the south east is talian and in the east and a little bit. You know, all over the place in the east is on small spots is through March. So and Germany's most often spoken like sixty percent. Roughly French is maybe twenty percent and Italian ten percent and Romansch basically less than one percent and. English for example. I saw around five percent. So that's also great great more. Ramon ch- at least no patent half of the Italian almost as much as it talen spoken. So and like you said where it is parts. Meet the cities are often bilingual. Yep. Yeah. So that's basically, and when you work. Usually, you only have to speak one language, but then in these borders, you speak, maybe two quite often. But one is usually enough and almost everywhere you can speak English as well at work, at least on many places. So do you think is a sort of reasonable expectation to put something on in the capital and expect that people will understand something in French given that the majority of the population, don't speak as their first language? What do you think about that? Because I thought it was unusual. But then I thought well, maybe that's just how it isn't Switzerland. Both it was unusual. But I I must say I haven't read about it. But I assumed that they also want to set the sign that we are not only German. We are all yes, we are not only German speaking, we are French-Italian, Andrew Manch. So. Burnt Ben is to capital, and we speak German there. But as a capitalist also represents whole, Switzerland. So it's I think it's very good that is French as well because that makes also aware of our culture. Okay. So I'll see you're disappointed face. No. That is nice because. Yeah. I guess the French Pont is small, but it doesn't mean that there are any less important. Of course. So why shouldn't the light show in French? Exactly. That's it. I mean, bombed us plots there is the fountains with the holes and each fountain has. Is rip represents one canton? And so I think that's the same thing though. We have each canton, and all languages. Yeah. It gets normal. And I think I've said this before, but before I moved here, I imagined that everybody in the country will be speaking four languages just sort of whenever they felt like it, basically, obviously, it's not like that. They are definitely speak one one and a half. I would say, yeah. And how much does how much do the other languages come into your daily life? And do you think that's pretty average? My daily life. If my life is average. No, no, no. I mean. Yeah. I know what you mean. I would say I see it from time to time, for example at the light show at the light show. Also at the end are different languages or. When they say, thank you, and all these kind of small things, or when you watch the Swiss German television there sometimes it's Romansch or you switch through your channels. And you see also the Swiss channels or infringe and Italian, and yeah, I think that's normal that sometimes you just see them somewhere. It takes bit of getting used to doesn't it? But it's pretty nice. I think. Those who can I think it's one interesting puzzle of Switzerland. I think also these different culture makes it more interesting. Because for example, they talion part of Switzerland. It's tiny bit Italian. The French part is a tiny bit more French. Yeah. Definitely and. And. Yeah. So these mixture is quite nice. So you can travel the short right by train. And then you have almost feeling of bit on holidays. Definitely just before we recorded this podcast. We posted in our Facebook group, Switzerland English because if anybody had any questions about how the language mix works in Switzerland and have a right. Thank you very much for writing Heather. And she said she's new just moved to sick last week from the UK say, first of all, welcome hope. It's going say fall. And she said could we explain when hi gentleman hawk which is used versus Swiss German Schweitzer joint. And she said, she doesn't really understand when each one is used is high Jaman used informal settings for example. It's very competing. Yes. Had I agree. And I'm going to put your question to assist German expert. Well, they're so in the group Emma has already replied to her. So that's very nice thank Salah my to send to this question is high German is our official. How did you say for all written things Swiss German is only? Eastern spoken language. Exactly. And we have not really a grammar or something. So for example, the newspaper and television and radio quite often. It's an hydrothermal. But then if we talk to each other, it's all interest German so that can be extremely formal. For example, job interview that is German, but something very informal. Maybe. Joke in a newspaper can be written in high German. So and high German is just what we learn. Also, I'm spring simple. So at school. We would also talk quite often high German almost always but between friends or schoolmates, obviously. Not. So speaking always with German brightening almost always high German. The only exception is if you right between friends, for example, on what's up or something a message than you may be right in Swiss German or. Yeah. That's but there there are no rules. That's more like Slann. Cou Swiss German in a show hate the answer to your question. Heather, yeah. Me too. Extremely complicated. But I'm not sure there is also one episode where we talk about Swiss German hydrophone, listen to that as well paced you a link if you've got any more questions about how the different languages used. Maybe wanna hear us say something in Romanche, for example. Please right. I'm we'll try and lend something around Allegra, Joe Mitch got peanuts much. Yes. Yes. I am so impressed. Okay. We can't better that lets you.

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DA102 - Conservative and Blogging with Fulcrum7

Disruptive Adventism

26:36 min | 1 year ago

DA102 - Conservative and Blogging with Fulcrum7

"Don't buy anymore but enjoy consume it's the flipping pages of newspapers some are named The New York Times Washington Post in my local public's near the checkout lane there's a stand containing this old form of communication that many of us act checking journalistic standards and other communication jargon on the Internet matters diverge I can find the information that most suits me and and finally we started our own magazine in December of two thousand fifteen called fulcrum seven so we think third time's a charm the conservative side of Adamant Ism recognizing that we decided to provide a place where they could come and be heard so many good stories out there so mm seven intended audience good question we naturally appeal to a more conservative audience which was our target from the beginning because David Nye both realized after a number of years of working in adventist minimalist publication wonderful testimonies and they don't get heard very often in this way by providing bokram seven as a hub we provided a central is that the adventist grassroots had lost their voice over last thirty years or so they really didn't have anywhere to go to be heard especially written by complete strangers the difference between these strangers opinions on the Internet and those in the stand near the checkout lane is that I can't curate my preferences the third Internet based Administer Oriented magazine that we have been involved with and it's we were Tom your encounter and interesting take on the matters of Theology Church governance and current social issues even so who exactly is fulcrum works and the hope it's a blessing to people the right formula what exactly is that you may one there s it is increasing and we we think we've got the right formula and it's been a question of trial and error and experience over the years and learning churches of tax exemption or LGBTQ activist reveals goal to Smash Biblical Sexuality Through Education or even we were both board members of something that became the Compass magazine and then we were board members and contributors to site that was called. Ed Vindicate This on the Internet side of things and I waited the newspaper stand does not necessarily allow me to if I'm a conservative near my checkout lane the probabilities of finding really difficult and important to have the right titles ideas and content that appeals to your audience as you said they're page fulcrum seven dot com. Well if you visited the page you can evaluate for yourself their article titles I'll give you a couple of such as beto calls for stripping conservative don't have to even try the ads from facebook Google and other websites print my bias they actually play around with it and make me more likely to visit blogs that agree the place where these stories can be an encouragement other people conservative audience what does that even mean in today's environment earlier form of the online's favorite version of a blog transitioning into the network sphere where the Continents Moseley Free I can also find information and opinions it their journey into what is one of the most controversial websites within the adventists nomination today Jerry I had been involved this is quickly conservative newspaper that appeals to my every like is rather difficult given that the stand usually contains scrutinized version of the truth one was the Catholic lawyer explosives pope's alliance with UN for population control those are conservative but certain kind I'll let you be the judge let's continue with our story well it's just whatever news of the day we find interesting with my opinion today in the advent ism we talked with the two founders of Conservative blog called fulcrum seven let us find out how they started bokram seven we'll be right back you have an idea you want to tell to the world but you don't know where to start that's where anchor calms in whatever we think is interesting our that our our reader base might find interesting whatever audience finds interesting well not we think it has implications for the administer CH- or if it's just a particularly striking mainstream news story that's not even religious we might comment on it is religious news probably most of it as adventists news but not all of it if there's something interesting that's happening in another denomination will cover it if if again if we think that it has implications for what's going on so it's it's not necessarily only adventist news it's kind so tell me what are you waiting for download the anchor APP or go to anchor dot com to get started and follow your dream they have the tools for you to edit produce and record your idea right from your phone or computer is the easiest way to reach and grow your audience the published for you to spot let's see what they say very good question we've heard from a lot of people in fact after three years now we sit in we're back with more disruptive out and thank you for listening if you want to get the unedited version of this podcast make sure to go to patriots place where we get a lot of input from different people at first we heard from individuals who were saying thank you we used com slash disruptive athletism Ooh so what is the response that the audience has had from reading fulcrum seven are you have it and as we come back we're going to see what the audience has been saying and if they're satisfied thank you for listening to his relative adventists and our conversation you like we were alone and now we don't feel that way anymore and so I became aware of an acute sense of alienation amongst a lot of our readers and so we've tried to do something publishing them that have encouraged us so it's a wide spectrum I think that spectrum is kind of endemic or yeah pretty much that on the other side of the scale far more common is thank you so much for being there for being available and providing these stories our fight apple podcasts and all major platforms and to top it off the match you with advertisers so you can earn from your passion and your wonderful idea vigils write us and this is at one end of the spectrum who have said you guys are the worst possible people ever with the worst possible publication ever to encourage them let them know that they're not alone on the other side of that scale you'll get people who don't like what we're doing at Fokker Kazak and I've gotten to where I save it in a specific file gonNA funding go back and read through them once in a while we've had thing for ministries websites blogs to thrive and even this podcast so make sure to review us on Apple Itunes if you're listening but besides feedback they don't comment they don't give us any feedback but we hear that they they know what's going on feedback a very necessary come into church but were ideologically divided right now and like it or not I don't think God intended for that to happen but it has and so we're here mm seven they feel that it's too conservative or whatever it might be and sometimes people will respond a hostile way we don't get a whole lot of that but we do get some at least indicative of the ideological divide in the church this isn't something that we've asked for or something that we've wanted none of us want to see division people some comfort throughout that trial let me add to that that we that's the feedback that we get you know from from our readers went what's happening in the church is a reflection of what's happening in the culture at large are tremendous changes happening in the culture in Western culture and throughout the world these changes are affecting the churches well they're polarizing not only our nation but adventist but we know that we're reaching more people than ever comment we know that many of the people that read it don't comment and we also know that many church officials are reading it not from fulcrum seven they're providing community for some of them plays where they can dialogue and talk we'll get to that a little bit later but first less see what's the vision that Fulcrum has at least the editors fulcrum about the current state of the Church and the story lines that are between UPS meeting community providing a place where ideas are heard conservatives and progressives alike all of us are people we look for that community and whether you like the content ed the Sabbath those are not things that divide the left wing from the right wing the things that are that are dividing us now I think they're the I agree with Jerry that the ideological differences are coming from the world because generally were and as they go one direction or another it creates tension in the church you asked about the question of unity it's a wonderful thing that normalization of homosexuality again that's something post sexual revolution that's coming in from the world and that's again dividing Liberals and conservatives agreed on on I would say the liberal wing and the conservative wing of the Church your greed on most of the doctrines of the church for example state of the W with women's ordination again which is a cultural thing that stems from the sexual revolution late sixties and early seventies cultural changes like This podcast brought to you or monthly once on Patriots Dot Com they'll get amazing march and early access to our unedited interviews and produced podcasts if you want to contribute hit the links into the even the seventh day Darwinian don't WanNa do away with the Sabbath even though the six day creation and God resting on the seventh day is the basis for the more areas of fulcrum seven and the nitty and the comments section thank you for listening to this relative Adam we hope you're enjoying this episode we'll be right back so it's not I think most of the doctrines even the far left in the far right within the adventist church agreed on I mean there's Ebeth for many of us we find that SEC secular Jews and even very conservative religious Jews Ebeth even when they undermined the foundations of it by promoting Darwinism the church so it's really it's really I would say the divide that's whether we end united or divided remains to be seen but the reality is that both conservatives and liberals know that there is something in the air right now corruptors in the world and bring your podcast that energize transform and Change Your community we hold you take courage join our one time contributors through coffee DOT COM talking with fulcrum seven one of the last thing stat we talked about with them was the idea of anonymity they allow their comments even though that's where it's coming from that's probably not where it's GonNa end it could I think it's completely dividing the church along a whole range of issues having said that focusing on those two ninety five percent of the articles that we publish on Bokram seven is just a kind of a pseudo name that we've created burn individual that writes on news items thing is is coming from hosts sexual revolution contemporary American culture but or their writers to be anonymous as it is a long standing tradition for American publications from newspapers blogs to anything sometimes they are are supporters on Patriots Dot Com and coffee calm or supporters are the backbone of the podcast and we are very thankful for all of you your contributions allow us to seek the best ideas something that can costs our division and something that can make us united even more as we come back from our break we're going to dive into This is why they said the first conventions that we attended everybody had one burning question on their lips who is church mouse I said well I can't the creation he writes on a variety of topics got this kind of a rapier British wit about Tim I don't hear from him all the time that he writes occasionally he's taking a break for a while here in the last five months it's written a couple of things News Hound Unity in truth is what binds us all together unity an error is a rope between the drowning man and steel anchor I'll leave at that is without being attacked personally and there's people that need that protection because they may be working for the church or them a little bit more conservative than your regular conservative individual and I asked them if they think that they are turning fundamentalist and what was their reaction have their names attached to them they come from specific individuals so these two are just a small departure from that practice do you WanNa say something give them that freedom as long as it's not you know sort of being used to defame an attack then can you be the judge whether they are using the anonymity in a way that is for protection and not just to run away from criticism or feedback it may be working in a sensitive job and they may not want you know they may not want to get fired from their church or whatever are signed thereby thereby a named person whether you agree or not and especially now in our culture of transparency and openness you and I can tell you that he's always around church mouse is actually Semi semi humorous early twentieth century as a reaction to liberalism and as a reaction to liberals saying that many of the stories option below and thank you a final men with disruptive out and design today and you read those articles that are anonymous fulcrum seven and evaluate if they are using that only to protect themselves or as they said to defame others subtle differences on the nature of inspiration verbal inspiration versus nonverbal or idea or the words being inspired versus the rider being inspired Our idea of inspiration is not word for word inspiration we believe that the Bible Writers and Illinois one of the last areas we discuss with from seven is the idea of fundamentalism as you read their blog you may think David well I I think there's a long tradition of in certainly in America going back to the revolution to the revolutionary war of people publishing under suited written on there a pseudonym in even on the spot gas we have had the most guests in order to protect them so we ask them why are some of the writers anonymous the only one of the five fundamentals that we don't agree with is verbal inspiration we believe based on Ellen White and her teachings and to that let me say that I don't see the term fundamentalists is necessary of necessarily a pejorative because the term really emerged you know there's there's various reasons for people writing under a pseudonym and you know as long as it's not as long as you're not m.'s like Kato or what have you and I think it just gives you a little more freedom to raise issues eating behind anonymity to make sort of pointed attacks on people I don't see a problem with people feel the need for anonymity this is the only area where we actually disagree with the fundamentalists the other fundamentals were like the Virgin Birth and miracles and you know things like that early twentieth century liberalism coming in Christchurch so to my mind fundamentalist pejorative we just disagree with them because we don't it's a little bit difficult to swallow the pill of anonymity but sometimes it's necessary in order to protect people I slice it's being done to protect people so I am prescription we can believe scripture we can accepted as being the inspired word of God now some of the adventist we don't were Gods penman not his pin so we don't see word for word or verbal inspiration we believe in thought or idea inspiration that the the the right here's inscription were moved by the Holy Spirit to right but the actual words are not dictated by a higher power so that's our mainline protestantism as a result of part is a result of Darwinism as a result of the late nineteenth century live Jerry dozen us well we have his response on the unedited version if you want to check it out but one thing that we cannot leave you without in this episode is the common section but what about moderation are the moderating what do they have to say about that I tend to be lazy fair I don't see a problem with it and there's just some people that feel like if they use their name then it becomes about them and they don't they wanted to be about the issue that they're writing about other than a personal thing so I mean there's a lot of different reasons why we do it but again I would say over ninety percent are are there were classical fundamentals and they had five fundamentals and remember all five of them but I remember that I agree with four of the five the only in my view the the funnel the fundamentalists were a health and reaction to liberalism that was coming into the lesser something just outrageous unless it's like obscene or the bad language or something I tend to let people have their say I know we get and the reality is that there are opinions shared their that may not reflect what the writers write about but the opinions of others and that's what they're invited for and sometimes you you know I my pet peeve is a single issue people there are people that just have one single issue and that's all they wanted and everything becomes you know it's like if you're a hammer everything becomes a nail interact with people they can interact me that's such a relief good point David we believe in self governance and if people don't do it and this is not reserved for

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PodQuiz 746

PodQuiz

15:47 min | 1 year ago

PodQuiz 746

"Sinful six working to put quiz seven hundred and forty six before we start I have to admit to a mistake the other week say Justin timberlake finance when it was supposed to be Justin Bieber very sorry of made a couple of mistakes recently in the music man so I'm GonNa try changing the procedure used when recording to hopefully eliminate those mistakes in round one. It's a backbeat music grant said there are five pieces of music to listen to fool which I would like artist untitled but songs can be played backwards in question one <music> and Western the voice the question three Whoa. The Western he's question five <music> round to uh run to is on latitude and longitude question six which imaginary line around the world lies at latitude zero. Uh question seven historically measuring longitude was difficult because which device was not sufficiently accurate particularly at sea question aid which capital city lies at an approximate latitude of seventy seven degrees west and look choose of thirty nine degrees North Beijing London or Washington D._C.. Question nine latitude and longitude is measured in degrees with the the conference of the Earth being three hundred sixty degrees. Each degree is broken into sixty sub units with which name question ten which. is commonly used map projection gained popularity because lines of latitude and longitude remain straight round three rent three is a quickfire doc firearms on holy cities face each of the following five questions and going to name a holy city and I would like you to tell me the religion with which it is most closely associated question eleven NASA Ruth Israel Question Twelve Mecca Saudi Arabia question thirteen salt Salt Lake City eater question fourteen Haifa Israel question fifteen. I'm Ritze India Yeah Round four and the fun around this week is art question sixteen which relative is the the subject of James Abbott. McNeill Whistler is most famous painting West Jim Seventy which artist is responsible for the Mount Rushmore Schmaltz National Memorial Good Some Book Lem Poplar Picasso all August Rodin Question mm-hmm a._J.. Which Japanese American artist was associated with the fluxus group and was a pioneer of conceptual and performance art including nineteen sixty fours cut piece piece but she is still best known for her relationship with John Lennon question nineteen which is the most prominent in the painting the kiss ace by Austrian symbolist painter Gustaf Clint Question Twenty which American pop artist is known for his balloon animals audibles reproduced in MIRA finish stainless steel can three and a half minute suite beyonce's off? WTA Parallels by the soft move yeah <music> <music> yeah <music> yeah <music> <music>. And <music> one all Rakia Girka by quick. What do oh you mean by Justin Bieber yes but you say no? The three wolves love by soft cell in the full was belief by Shah the number five force by shops the sheriff. Sheriff by Eric Clapton Suede Round two round two was on latitude and longitude and the answer to number six let cheat zero is the equator number seven the device that was not not sufficiently accurate for measuring longitude was the clock or chronic graph number eight Washington D._C.. Lies at seventy seven degrees west thirty nine degrees degrees north the sub unit of less two and longitude is sixty minutes and then pretend that map projection in which lines of latitude legit are straight eastern Makita projection round three front three was on holy cities and the answer to Number Eleven Nazereth Ace as Christianity Twelve Mecca is Islam Thirteen Salt Lake City is mormonism fourteen Haifa. I is bar high and number fifteen. AMRITA is Sikhism round four the fun durant was art and the answer to to number sixteen listless. Most famous painting is of his mother seventeen the artist responsible for Mount Rushmore as Goodson bokram eighteen. That's Japanese American artist was Yoko Ono nineteen. The most prominent color in the case is gold and number twenty. The American pop artist known for his balloon animals is Jeff Koons. Thanks very much for listening to pod quiz seven four six lots of messages before we go happy Seventh Birthday Travis Lots of love from that and sky happy birthday to Rafi from that Vincent Happy Birthday to Luke from Shantelle happy birthday to Georgia boy Shane from your Hawaiian.

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Ep 25: Finales Extraos De Blockbusters

Un Poco De Todo

42:35 min | 5 months ago

Ep 25: Finales Extraos De Blockbusters

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Edwin Jesus Ramirez

CharlaConAngel.

30:58 min | 6 months ago

Edwin Jesus Ramirez

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Episode 10: Feet In The Clouds

Bob Graham Sounds

1:06:34 hr | 9 months ago

Episode 10: Feet In The Clouds

"Come on we're GONNA taste and I'm going to record I think for by running podcast while you meet you. It's you rushing out while cy they might be fixing laughing on your five year. The top five teams from tastes down. Who took off his toothpaste on the mustard? Off The top gentle on this morning and What good I'd say it's on downhill. It's just a noisy polluted scrub bombings above Portsmouth under the motorway to get there and it's pretty small height wise but found US law trials overlay along it underneath some white chalky cliffs overlook Portsmouth and St Short but steep so much viewpoints in up and down enough money down and running along so run for about an hour and a half this morning on Bush about teeth. Really well for them past. Hi and welcome to our podcast about the Bob. Graham round a sixty six issue mile run in the Lake district up on over forty two of England's tallest mountains in under twenty four hours recorded throughout twenty eighteen and twenty nine teen. This is an audio account of a year preparing for and attempting the BG are. These are our Bob. Graham sounds now. That hill was to become my best friend. After the court cramps on the wreck last week at what should have been a run all along that me a bolted very early in the descent into US style just killed me trump. Might this like in my sick. And then a feedback loop what you end up with a semi show psychic saying the body is and feeding into the mind but I'm taking on both solves every day now wreck ramp. I'm not likely anymore. The training now walking on I'm going to do all the drills and steps that had me. I'm also sticking to my new quote cramp prevention vinegar. Dosing plan all the research stops them better than anything else is vinegar and in particular the vinegar from jars of pickles daily spoonfuls of rancid juice from the pickle jar. Hey and I've had a trip to Asia and stocked up on some little sachets which I will put inside my pack and take with me to down of the top of skit before the first descent. I'm leaving nothing to chance. I had stopped cycling to work altogether and just got up and ran and ran and ran up and down the same hill over and over. Can we just three weeks to go? I'm asking anyone and everyone for advice. Semi attempt is coming three weeks time nicky spinks for example. What would you be doing at this stage before a round three weeks before I think I saw stop buying like food weather not the stuff that might go off because the last week tends to be Manic? Supposed to stop this decide. They don't know where they're going and ask you questions and he just wanted to have you so if everything sorted out so on the day can just or the day before you could just pack up and go very quickly so I think that's why do I start checking by my head towards making sure enough factories and newell charged up and if I need any soaps or anything like that getting them all and then try and get enough sleep and eat so sally. Well naturally the WHATSAPP group is a buzz. I'm now trying cool and fake him in my packed. Lunch doesn't look the appetizing but might be okay own fake meat report could not tell the difference so unless the fake ham is very expensive which I doubt I cannot see an argument for real supermarket. Hamouda fake just an issue of availability as they don't seem to have it in the burly. Kuan I have just bought some overprice capsules. Suspect it by tomorrow will shortly thereafter. I will be the English Scott during the beanstalk but as any experienced ultra runner will tell you you can take all the fake ham and vinegar sachets. You like into the mountains but if the weather turns bad you ain't GonNa get round and that I think is the biggest uncontrollable so whether it's looking to the skies or looking to the APP in your pocket you do start to worry about the weather. I haven't started checking weather forecasts yet but I think once we get two weeks out. I think I'll start getting tweet. You back last year was just hot and dry been now on the bit too hot for lots people and yeah this unsettled weather and I got on the double patty I I was watching it just changing and changing and in the end when we got I think on every leg we Klag Nas whereas you just have to make a decision on I would generally have two weekends and just because it makes it easy to been the first week yeah logistically and it's just difficult to living in. The South is last year impressed at how much she did. Living in the south of love repeat running up and down quite small. Hails added seven up and downs of a hill near me which I worked out was the equivalent of two ski. Does the other weekend fairly boring seven up and downs of a relatively small hill after the problems with my quads went running with mark and Matt and being a I decided I needed one more wreckage and so on my own I decided to put my legs through their paces. Just to sort of reassure my mind and I'm not going to flake out on the first downhill predictions so aesthetic a brain spluttering the windscreen on the basic five. Drive Fom Parents. Letting the dial draftsmen mile rise on such off my final trump wrecking netflix. Nickel got in touch with a couple of people. This week to the podcast. One of them was Richard. Ask Olathe of the about the round feet in the town's Jeffrey owed because I'm ready for I. Just I'm GonNa read it again. Before toltar- he's great to have a chat with me which should be burdened and he was arrested Wednesday attempt and then does and I said I won't vote in the attempts on the twenty first of June and he said you just need to take a steady now. Don't get engine during the last thing. You need is named. I was thinking my knees and my ankles non rocket Zora my groins and the top of my foot is so on my toes. So and just everything was. Are you kidding but this morning is not a does feel like if we're GONNA AVOID PROPER INJURY? Anita chatman today. It's one of those moments where you saw. Go over you just rescue and then you hobble for the executives and that sort of disappears. It's absolutely fine this morning. Just make you realize he could be closed at coming acropora anytime but if I can avoid a proper injury then go remember. That thing that I've heard other professional sports and say football. As Roma's also lost the time you turn up to the start line kickoff off forever as the beginning of the event and you already partially the number of times when you've gone to star and then been a hundred percent fit very few farber of trust in the fact that big base of Joran Mola thing I'm putting that in the financing touches in now and kind of Hello Richard. Hi right size. You are in the right place because you might be able to tell. We weren't face to face. Richard was in North Hamilton and I was in Southampton God that was a Hampton to Hampton connection down the line and once thought it out our volumes. We cracked on quite nicely. I was reminded of your book featuring the clouds this weekend as I struggled through the clack and the opening chapter particularly of your book where you describe a Lakeland experience way or blundering around in the dark and cloud and count the new way. You are one last recording on the phone. Before I came up just arrived at the Mount Rice as the rain. Got Noticeably heavier as anyone on the car parked up on him and anyone's making an attempt to six forty on Saturday morning the eighth of June. I mean it's perfect grind weekend isn't it but I noticed on the face of someone believe that's before tonight to Saturday night. You wonder how much methods tomorrow I think what's up go to number one discuss the win approaching the still seven fall from the style by the road and it's now seven this is on really plays four twenty three afternoon and it's the first time ready the clouds of lifted so they probably did about an hour ago Now back on track and I can see where I'm headed an and I mean some food so for much of the day. I was cold and wet so Kim cold anymore. I was frozen for a while and for at least a couple of hours if three I was completely lost as well. That's all in thick five employing and let me see. Do I think I three? I go steal fell. Overseer then probably rise and sergeant mine and then the two stickers and I felt pretty confident that God both of the stick goals even though you know. You're just walking token in the dawn following instructions. And this if a compass bearing and then suddenly they lose of the tire room. I is a comical foil. Never have been so glad to see my old food guards. Thirteen now is on the foul back at the mile rise. I am then climbs but is very worthwhile and I'm pleased other than an appraiser weary not injured so it's given me confidence lead. Lots of practical things stuff doesn't survive if you're carrying kit then. Is Tom hold of up? Opening that other things to talk about the brains that shot right. Now thank parliament so. I'M GONNA drive of my thirteen hours on the owls. I think I was Cold Ninety percent of the time and wet at least that much and I think I was lost for at least a third of the time as well and there is something very terrifying. The I'd forgotten about because the last couple of years I've been up to the lake every time I've gone. It's been clear in the visibilities. Been fine and it just to find yourself completely. Lost is very disorientating and scary. Not It'd be disorienting isn't it? I mean because if you just sort of thing if I could just have you know ten seconds where I could just have a look around me and then I'll be able to work at allow wants. He wants he doesn't really have a sense of where you are tool than in nothing. Everything doesn't follow up to that. I have you. Did you find that you sort of look at stuff? You can look at something that you'd being two hundred tonnes before really familiar landmark in the sheriff. It's the same thing this Toll Skull Faux Pas. Maybe maybe it's maybe completely wrong place. Yeah I felt quite embarrassed. There was a foul sky. Race was being held over the weekend so little red flags on their route and lots of people about run as going past but also being scarf L. Pike. It's always busy. There's always walkers doing it and most people these days have some kind of GPS thing. I didn't have it with me. I was doing with a map and compass and people come across a group of walkers and say is this still the way up scarf L. Pike. Oh Yeah Yes oh my. Gps This is quite humiliating. What's worse is when you post the same group of walkers two more times in our in the opposite direction I did learn a lot though about clothing and the cold and just how curious it can seem when you're down road level And if you don't wear enough how much you can regret that when you're high up and navigation thing you're saying it just how how bad that can be. It was comical. I I was walking with my map and compass thinking should becoming too. Pike of stickle. Emmett is this little rocky outcrop. And then and then. All of a sudden this monolithic rock the size of a block of flats suddenly loons out of the cloud about a yard in front of you. Okay yes that was quite an island by yourself. Yes yeah yeah right. Yeah Yeah. It's that much harder than And that's what I really learned as well the benefit of company. I'm sure just to kind of corroborate. Are we going the right way? Do you think this is still the right route and It's it's Quite unnerving being on your own. Although I think it's much better I mean you know you could have been able to do on your own at some point in having other people with. You doesn't always hope I'm not talking about. How could something back a time when I was totally lost in the three of us? And we're just getting around around in circles somewhere in the dolts and held on and things like that and we first when with a group of people you start becoming. He started off plugging just in. Here we'll leave it someone else. He must be right. He must be right and you just taller than and let's go normal Cleveland. You have so you just got around to the different circle and I remember one one of the blades who was used to outward bound instructor for a long time Rudy could come loose mountaineer person saying can we just sit down and have a good cry because none of us could think of what to do. Yes yes those definitely moments where particular having read your reread. Your book again. Recently I was running through my head. Come on this is a test. This is good. It doesn't really matter what happens but this experience you need to have in the bank but there is a point anything yes but I don't want that to end in life threatening illness or injury and I have got to work out my way back to some sort of path. If I'm not careful I'll be stuck here forever. So yeah lentils about even just basic. Things couldn't open food packets easily. My hands were so cold and Wet. Thought actually for for the attempt itself. I'm not gonNA be going up there with lots of things in little plastic packets. I need to unwrap them. Before I go up and have them in something that can actually open and decisions you make when tired and ended up getting scarf L. Pike and then rather than carrying on as I had hoped to do lake forest. While I thought I'll just retraced my steps in and get back to my car mile race and that was all fine. The cloud lifted then and suddenly I was so that's where I was and that's where I missed. Rossett Pike and this that and the other and as I was coming back I missed the way down. Steel fell and went pass and so ended up adding at least an hour of really treacherous. Struggled down a horrible slope that no footpath on it at all and made me realize that you can even when you're thinking that you've seen the worst of it you can still slip up and and get yourself in trouble. So I think exhaustion being just being distress generate redefect judgment male thing. It's just a really tiny mistake. Can have a huge effect so he just missed one. Paul probably severe brain thinking probably But maybe you sort of just to see what you've chosen about Tom. You realize you really are wrong. You've gone site badly wrong list. It takes five times as long to put it right. Which is very depressing. Yeah Cart fullness yes Yeah I just wasn't checking map enough. I had my phone. Just got the sort of OS MAPS APP on it. That was my fallback but I sort of out of the stupid bloodymindedness and a kind of cold account really bothered to go into mark to get it out and fiddle with it mentality. I didn't really check it enough so I didn't confirm where I was. I just carried on blindly toying with the idea of Poles but feels like cheating for a long time resisted the hiking poles a lot of runners ease in the mountain partly. This is because I didn't want to accept the fact that really ultra particularly amounted walking bones and my head was still ultra running. But in the end I get lucky and they were great. I mean they're just such beautiful. Bits of kit coke handle these bright red and yellow sticks and quite good moving around in the man they do help so having to pull yourself up definitely helped maybe it feels stupid to not use all that. Free Power Helen. Reckons that you get seventy five percent extra by using polls can do day after yesterday's run and it was a significant one. I had three hour run on Butts Hill in the south of England south downs. Not far from me. The biggest hill in South Hampshire Innovation of eight hundred nine hundred eighty nine. Two hundred seventy one meters you fans Under three thousand fifty full fate. Scuitto that makes Why did yesterday seven ups and downs of butts a hill to skittles so reasonable Took about three hours. On the reason I went there early on Sunday morning was to test out. Polls which I used before Bharata NAS PAL. Helen whole super running. Cochin by mechanics analyst extraordinaire and also very kind of generous woman and says she sent me a pair of Nordic Walking Poles those bat. So I could bar. That was the attempt to not try to rise today with her little audio message of the technique mixed use them and she's very good explaining that so things. My recommendation is not working. Polls because there's no Grit Piedmont grip which would send tension up the chain the arms into the shoulders into the neck and with not working the polls stay behind you which keeps you up right which keeps breath. Organiz which makes everything easier as you. Well know and the challenge comes with when there's a slope. How little extra work can you offer your legs spy? Excellent use of upper body. And it's about a wrist action you flick the handle out of your hand. You almost is like a chuck away and then as you swing through you catch the handle. So it's like an old fashioned pinup and less elbow bending if you've been to your elbows than you're checking okay. Hope that's helpful so follow the instructions and strode down the hill. Rundown didn't feel kind of coming down. That was descending in quite the elegant fell running fashion that I had felt when I was up in the legs. And I'm reading rereading feet in the cloud but should ask Chris book on this being reminded how brilliant Rodriguez and how well he describes when runs go wrong in the fells. Feel kind of encouraging. I think I'm in a fairly good place for it. One of your the books that I have also read running free. Would she wrote after beating the clouds? I follow up ruining book kind of your manifesto of of running. At the time I suppose and the stage of running at you talk about these different life stages that you went through when you were desperate to hit times and get faster and faster and then that obviously the obsession with the book Graham and and then you were in a phase I think that period when you wrote it of just running without a watch not really worrying how far you went to or how fast you just if you wanted to run fast. You just went as fast as it felt you needed to. I still at that stage. How what stage are running. You are now doing sort of same. Suzanne set the moments. When I feel a need to run I quite frequently. I mean I think a little bit about agents certainly. I think most of when younger is is mostly about. How COMMON CAN I improve? My performance ourselves. Hotrod come further up in the race so kind of get federal health is all about. You know a go through the suffering and it's also about learning to master suffering and learning okay for global news was a very important rewarding. And then you know after well you know as you get older you part and you just think well I see. I'm very lucky but I can still run a tool because people come as I get older. I get into a like a ill and I'll just able to one reason or another so you start thinking of running much more as a privilege and say full. I mean I'm not well into my fifties. Now you just tell thinking well you know. If I was going to break any world records a win Olympic medals it would probably have happened on And what I'm running for my personal best. Yeah they're just going to improve personal worst instead. Say What's the point of depressing yourself and trying to motivate yourself with the outcome to run is all about is now one hundred percent just about doing it for pleasure or sometimes you do for pleasure of the company. Sometimes this scenery sometimes just joy being able to run butting Melissa great about the bulk grain and fell running Kendrick especially about grandma. It actually combines a loose things as very very performance oriented. You know if you don't if you lose focus on what you're trying to do in this twenty four hours and you know kind of get round and it's full yourself through a little pain. Is that true? But it will say It's fantastic sociable into the people supporting you and all the people you meet when you're doing it as a wonderful friendship experience Thought things doing it in such beautiful scenery on on your engaged with the environmental time and to me. That's you know. We spend so much time in unnatural manmade arms and both love and cities and a crowd and breathing polluted Just to be out in the mountains and sinking with every fiber. Reveal Brian about you. Know what you're treading on. Wyo heading and what you can feel underfoot and what you can see through the Klag or what would be through the cocky. Become see through it is. It's a very so spiritually heaving refreshing experience to me And with the Book Raimondo. Getting getting the pleasure. And you're getting the suffering combined and you're getting the Steadily exhausting I found Saturday trying to rely on your own skills with a map and compass and that sort of the pressure to not get lost and then when you realize that you are lost the fear and the pressure to get yourself found again and so it is. You're right it's an all mind and body experience and just thinking it's been a while since of eaten and you have to really monitor all your basic life signs to cook on top of that. Do you miss it that you've you? What's your relationship with the BG This point having achieved. I if I if I'm allowed light to get back to fell's NFL's a mountain to run up and down. Because it's just such fun. I the occasional foul raise. Both your fury here. Lost in recent engagement. Btu was actually a whole lot of people who did the bt with twenty five years ago. I'm not deciding. We're all GONNA get together next year and the latest and made up of the fun together but I'm not sure if anyone is planning to do any running a tool that point that's a sort of friendship friendship the BG stays with the under loves mountain states with the I'm talking someone the other day who just turned the PG and talk to him about what a crazy cheap. It wasn't how you know he was saying. I was disappointed with the time. And I said be crazy. You Call Ron Even the no take away from me. I'M GONNA send off that once that that you tend to forget but I see yeah I mean yeah when I was doing it was a really tough thing on raising able to try and fail to many times of the is. I'M GOING TO BET. Ya Got Round and you know should I should still be proud about yes. I am with the perspective of of time especially because you invested so much extra time in writing a book documenting all and doing all the other research do. How'd you look back on that achievement for yourself? And and how do you right now? I mean I found on an I felt on Saturday. Made much easier by having friends who've got very good. Gps watches to fall back on. If you're nervous about your navigation and things like that but I'm guessing the technology wasn't so good when you were making your didn't exist. I remember talking to friends on the foul Poles while we were lost. And say you know talking about how someone to invent something. There's saying why Conley you satellites and they thought that and and you could see how the saying that any describing this amazing science fiction which you know fears later people invented knows. Gps what. I was thinking when you talk about. How sort of exposed and voluntarily feel when you're exhausted and Lewiston suffering from the weather. It's hot it wasn't. It's tough for me back in the early mid nineties as it was Philip. Pioneers of school in the sixties and seventies people like Joe Snyder and the Bryant planned and built. T's down you know they. They really tough ever going out. There is nothing to fall back on if they're lucky to come visit him out. Sometimes it's just like how the equipment was absolutely minimal if they had of food and drink though lucky most of the time. It's just a question of funding fee berries on the ground funding stream to drink from. Yeah that was. They really really tough guys. And then by the time we got to my stage it was a little easier. And you know it. Lightweight would put more pref- close and vague idea of how you sports nutrition involving plate in at least juices and Chelsea have to die on the communication and travel much to say you didn't have to be near the top then the nowadays. I guess you know things like. Gps and everything's so much more high tech and in a way easier but the old saying the difference today is that the people doing the twenty four hours so much faster. All doing you go. People ask them in Paris and Nicky spinks and what people people doing amazing things with the BG making so in both those ends will I achieved was just nothing. I feel I'm just a tiny little cogan bokram story and yet from my personal point for me was really important. Brought a passage and you wouldn't have missed it for the world number really cloud. I went through suffering and they told me a lot about myself and how to do things and what I was capable will of push came to shove and when people ask me about how they should be approaching. Just ultimate something you do for yourself. Identities important the worry about whether he'll the slows close to all the false dispel some to have to. Unless you happen to be one of those people who is capable of breaking record but for most of us. I think it's just a question of Martian year imported and making the best of them Monday morning. Fifty five carriage trains trains transcendental. But on these just south central artist before gone on topper on held by the seventy five minutes from it was a shame and a meeting seats in the clouds. Again and ridden joyous however off the next dating of on an incline good fitness wise some the notes tweets and Nichols going away on just sort of working me through all the various things to insult out of my shoes said that talks of my feet or less painful up pushing against The top of the show was not that I put the main because renouncing the lights sold bottoms of my feet from the tough terrain so to see how that goes on a ten day whether I why insults for like three minutes take them out by new trains of astonished but say however this is kind of positive event. I'm reading which book. And that got it. Gardiner's could gaining of it makes some Russian fulmer champion of the program club ambassador reflection and their circles when which brings into thinking contempt. And this is running out as well making his podcast about seven. And then Fred says we've got things written about around illiterate. Thirty people who've done a couple of marathons and thoughtful thing seventy two miles often. There's more than not enough. Every insurance ground appreciate both. Graham in nineteen. Thirteen was one of the ethnic achievements of center. If you don't go into deep enough you WanNa do it then. Richard goes on to say how he seem. The Tusa Grandma demonstrated many times. Many people tried and failed the crappy housing. Can you know I'm looking in the style? Haven't been up in March and coming back from injury. Nearest nineteen. Don't take it seriously. Enough stations nappies swimming around. Was you know if you didn't get round you're GONNA have to come out and do it just get round? You'll never have to do it again. This bits of it that we're sort of sick of the sight of I think and You know and there were so many other beautiful bits of even just our country that we've not running because we're constantly going around this little loop you also wrote the book featuring the clouds which even gets a mention on the only map of the round that you can buy by. Harvey's maps yes There's a a s you know tells you where you can buy. Yes right yeah. They spill my name wrong as well as saying yes they do. Yes you're right but whenever I've mentioned it to anybody seems to be universally liked as a book. Now you were already a successful journalist in your career and so you must have written some well regarded pieces and things like that for newspapers and so on but was it a real thrill and it still a real thrill to have written a book that everyone likes really. I mean it will. It will first of all. It wasn't an instant you know. It was very much slow. Burn thing and at the time people just didn't get any of these and Nice people can work out wolf a book about Paul Ryan Compulsory. It just gradually built the second thing is you know always had a very strong sense. What people liked about it was the stories and the stories of these amazing people? Just nine Kennedy's diamond. Td's whatever these great athletes from WHO Among the very greatest athletes Britain has produced to simply online. Which sort of seemed to me wrong to me. They're still these amazing stories of thousand worth preserving. I think people if people liked it. They were glad that these stories had been put down on paper and preserved and it was more I think about the stories than about meal. My one four eighteen so it didn't I didn't feel great star. You know I feel because I star on you know I read anything it was about me. I think it was just. That was a book which happens to be but we have been captured. Some gathers together a great tradition of the to the golden has tradition of a pretty spoiled pretty sporting history. And I think people glad to come across when they're introduced to it and they didn't think wow that's amazing I'm really cut I find I also think your honesty and You know the what makes it more enjoyable than just a history book about fell. Running is the fact that you know your the chapters where it's your diary of build up over. I guess over several years through your various attempts and and so on. So so there's that Nice honest personal. Quite vulnerable points Section as well. I guess that makes it easier for especially people who have no knowledge of the split up getting easier for people to understand what it's all about these great heroes. We're going through and I think the great don't show how writing that was based on very good the spool. I'm not I'm very middle of the road. Runner unsightly. Some people can do fell running. Just find they just take to it. Naturally funds has winning racism and do program. I was able to describe a lot stuff because you know I was suffering a little noticed every difficult thing because familiar was difficult so I think that really helped. And then you put that together with these much more talented athletes who are also suffering because Achieving similar high level on and you can begin to understand what that game for as well say maybe that that did I guess yeah it has put the fear of God though. I been rereading. Obviously because I wanted to talk to you and and you know reefa millions myself with the book but also thought it'd be great to read shortly before my attempt because it will get me in the mood and it's been terrified particularly because you keep referring to the that your ill equipped for fell running your thirteen stone and you live down south. I don't think well I'm thirteen stone and I live down south and an eight stone. Five foot tall that will whip it. So yes I found it. Quite unnerving made me feel very inadequate. So yeah that's that'd be Motif and when you get round It's you know the holiday is the the lauriston proud of I think this was keeping in mind and if you to into weeks time and it's all easy incense the most successful rounds right soon as boring. There's nothing to remember to look at the Golden Plan time I around was actually relatively straightforward compared with my failed attempts. Yeah wasn't that much to remember. It was just you know we got peak on time that peak on time it was so we see way most of the way Nothing went wrong until near the end. And that doesn't stay with you very much whereas if you have the something goes wrong then you find a way round that all you you can get round in spite of that. That's really exciting. Something that you'll remember the rest of your life so we have previously is where things have gone disastrously wrong for you know for Recchi's offer other people's in an attempt so yes all of that in the bank. Has You first published that book in two thousand four which was before obviously? Gps and things as you just said but also before they make ultra running boom which seems to have taken place over. The last thirty five years has been good for book sales as a gun. Backup in popularity. I mean I. It doesn't sell that. Many copies just stays in print and takes over and people recommended. I think people who are getting into into. Yeah I guess it must if someone gets into. Toronto'S I'm loney about how to run through repainted. Such event is probably quite an interesting thing to read and to see other people have done in the past so good in the back of. Yeah but I mean I. It's there's no sort of Harry Potter now. From the people you spoke to the Justice L. is billy bland's Kenny Stewart's and so on are there any bits of wisdom that you've retained Well I remember the Joe Snyder saying as a Guinness in you that which is good and also just saying that sometimes you just go going on. You've just shrug it off because if you thought about it you just lie down and nothing acting most. Most of them said something like You know sometimes if you're injured defeating ever you know you just you just get his pain and the remainder helen diamond. It was the first really amazingly good female long distances. off the good ones. Pull her but she was one. He started breaking records things that she said. When you're doing the book right and if you don't cry when growing going out read Pike's trying proably looks good one. Who's red? Pike is I see. Are you getting clockwise by the way? Yes Red Pike. Be a easy one as I know Houston steep that the place it comes in you do. You will see thoughts of the way round. You Really Knock. Had these still got rid on white guy and then you come to this. Relatively boring saying just gets own own home home on on and on you think only must be that nominee and you've made progress it to I think that every time I've done it that's been the most of breaking potentially help breaking stage of it. Yeah so I think I guess if you have Right this is get red. Pike behind me I see you'll you'll do you'll be fine But you just have to know that. Pray your spirit. I spoke to Nicky spinks. And she echoed. What what you're saying about Justin the other saying you'll have to go through at the awfulness pain or discomfort. What have you but you can go through. And she said it was a to her on her first book Graham when she was feeling bad through the early part of leg three and threw up quite violently and then just carried on and thought. Oh that's interesting. I've never really done before. Or you know. Normally normal person would go. Ooh I'm feeling sick. I'm being sick. I'll start whatever I'm doing and go and get whereas it was quite a lesson for her to think can just be sick and carry on and and still finish the whole thing. And what did you think of these double rounds and just the other weekend? This Guy John Kelly trying to do all three of the big rounds party up Graham and so on and then cycling in between them and it seems like enough now. You have to do something. Mega I think for some people and if you have the you know the level of talent and second the euro nut friend of mine while you want to achieve things and yeah the masses more you can do you remember when I went to poke. Graham has bokram Dinner Frederiksen who that is the whole thing when it when it started saying you know for some people. It's everything for all the some some people. Let's let's the end but for all the people is just the beginning and you do that and then you think what else can I do in? Nfl running and some people may just getting ready to vote. Graham doesn't mock you will meow out as a an exceptional is really had the me. Suddenly just a personal achievement can feel happy about. It doesn't stop me being absolute middle of the pack. Run tons of running the wgn. T. I mean just that. It's just so far out anything. I don't think I could contemplate the to say I'm what what's interesting is Nicky spinks does it and you know there's still probably still people out who say women can't run as well as a man but as I say you know just title nonsense and is more question. Can men fell run as well as as women special meal? Ultra long distances. I think Google it proves that I think most it is probably is as much a mental achievement as a as a fiscal achievement. I suspect And if someone's head is obsolete in right place and they believe the thing as possible and up determined enough and strong enough mentally physically and mentally letting especially mentally then who knows what limit as people can achieve unbelievable limits. We set ourselves. You know a lot of the rest of US normal people in in everyday off we set ourselves these limits just as you were saying you have being say condo anymore on we make these Katie's for ourselves and actually maybe we don't need to know that those no written rule saying the Yukon through the city can't do that. I'm just saying well. Obviously I come around forty. Ps and twenty four hours. But if you think you can maybe you can try. Yeah I listened to an interesting interview with the the swim. Ross Barkley that Swarm all around the coast of Britain and he Yeah he said that A big a big part of the training for anything like that is your capacity for work. So it's not really whether you're fit enough. He felt like the the key. The key thing for him in doing that was could he keep getting up after every six hours and swimming again for another six hours shallow. It wasn't the best swimmer in the world. Could he keep doing it? on the alarm goes off. You can get out of bed. Put wetsuit suit on and get into the everyday four hundred fifty seven days twice a day. Then you're going to a little swimming and then that's an and Have you has your have you in your mind and your body sort of prepare is the the capacity for work sort of laid down already the foundations for that so she also sorting starting questions of pacing. I mean what what I try to be Full Times and I'm absolutely sure at the time I got run full-time obsolete of less fit and I have been on previous occasions and the first time I tried to did worst on I was super super feminine fittest. I've been in life but I just didn't have it in my Mo- I wasn't mentally instinctively geared to twenty four cycle. I was still so thinking in terms of two three hours. Four hours maybe strike set out to eight hours but just adjusting your your perspective of what you're trying to do is a huge thing once you start thinking on this long perspectives on you. Start seeing life completely different than you realize that you have these sort of these peaks and troughs and they'll be moments when you feel good and then they will cost say youngest confident but also that'd be minimum twenty type terrible day will pass as well so didn't give up emmy for me is a bit like the difference between writing an article of a thousand worlds and unwinding a book. Then you as as writing and you're both trying to in some ways the same thing but you're just looking at this can be different scale. I Guess Yeah I'll ask you about writing in just a second. But one of the thing about outliers like Nicky spinks of this. Well what did you make of Gillian's record that? I guess surprised everyone that it could be broken by so much. I guess so I mean I think that's causing someone asked me about some Jones from the up and said you know. How do you feel isn't a terrible these forum? Tennessee professionals coming in and trying you interrupting this great traditional school what I think the thing about it was out to his right in the tradition of the people like Chill Snyder. I'm betty bland. You know he's a he's just a person of the mountains he's done all these amazing things which you probably wouldn't have been possible for someone ability to elicit of stuff in the Himalayas and we'll end this outs twos But you know he's also amount in person he's lived here spent countless thousands and thousands of hours in the mountains and he's looks like a mountain goat so in a way if anyone was going to break the record Washington behind that's my my feeling ABC's exceptional awfully and I didn't really feel it be like a same sport as me. Such outlaws compared with what most people to Pity Bland with Sporting. I I felt that I see fitted drove into the whole tradition of of of the Mountains Mountain love as a sport in which fell run support. One another encourage one another Saturday afternoon. Five Running today I am going to run. Tomorrow morning. I've been out following Nicky spinks advisor today and bought the dry food that I want. I stopped practicing what I think breakfast which is going to have to make it the day before. Say Simple made twenty. Four would still be enjoyable. Thirty one lucky food politics. There's no miracle vis raisins talk to the rising. Believe Seven Times mixed metals. Tonight Tomorrow Morning Training Powell's GonNa get ready for. My father knows best the morning them very night. My mom evening today. Insane sensible kids to one in the morning try took help just ending my experiment. Now I certainly think Paxton over g missed in Jordan told. Well it's now. Tentative finished seven cents descent but. Suhel done has bet on for what it's Monday afternoon and run this morning before what comes to mind like not run up and down. The hill must not. I don't know if you do this too much. Film sometimes. Too much and online service soundtracks twists on. This is that bit probably ten minutes before the end when one more thing goes wrong to screw up whatever you want the outcome to be and suddenly looks all now. Now it's going. Along Kinney's came down is all my fault fail a bit? Truck wasn't expecting a call work on climb down off the ledge. Our teachers on yesterday. One I was worried about my pillow's Sarah tight to up as long as the type to think of a memory. Helen SUIT DRAIN FLUID FROM CHICAGO. Program twice reduce the swelling. Both the police were really swollen and Stretches but good snake on the set challenge much bad as massages them as rolling up again. Sean gets up fluid out this morning much less slow than and did not drills in stretches. Now they're paying the toll key type palm rest is fully today and probably tomorrow and say how serious dive out maybe again. I just had an email from richer. That's saying I would still on into your money back. So it's the same. Yeah scrape token China's GonNa Allergy Training replied to that little who is about Trying to tread a fine line between being undercooked and not being injured. And he says. Definitely best undercooked injured. So I've tell me since Sunday feel quite right. I don't know what to do running a bad well. I think I'll go give the running time for life after on with home. Hyping so two last questions. Will I make it? And what do I need to know from you to to get me round In two weeks time. Yeah I think I think you'll make it. You have to know though that will be a moment when you absolutely terrible. And he feels terribly con. Carry on I've I've been my. I'M INTERESTED IN I. Maybe you'll get round on obesity. I'm sure you'll have no more. You feel all policies gone wrong. Come up and what you've got to of next two weeks as a still train didn't get injured. He if again without injury you'll get round on your obsession where you can go without an injury when you get sites of. What am I gonNA do when I get to that point ham again to deal with it when it comes you think I K- his leg point. I was going to have to deal with what I do and you know. There's no easy answer apart from stop you know even if you just cooling food very very slightly just remember it will cost the low I point. We'll we'll pause and it's the same as with most things in life keep going leaving yourself. Limit yourself by saying just because I feel like I'm about to tie it means I'm going to die. I mean might mean because it was too And also route chicken get round than USA. Don't think that's necessarily true but I Lots of other people have got round and and it's supposed to be enjoyable as in the sport is supposed to be enjoyable and I imagine the second half of book. Graham attempt is going to be enjoyable but anyway one of the things when you re suffering just ideas you know if you can see not being clogged concierge thing but just if you can just look around look at visa. I'm not gonNA remember just a little flat tools. The end of my one of my times probably more successful while I was in a half unconscious exhaustion Emma Spencer coming to foods from Taylor Fell things like that but just looking for just the most amazing views. And if you can just get lost in the beauty of it'll be environment That's a great way to starting off from pain And just focus on. What can you can see in trying to look at the details of the roads and the vegetation all. There's a lot to distract yourself when I'm the ultimate use to do when I was two embankments was to imagine myself back in my office in London. Stressful job doing some. You know having a really miserable time thinking you know I could not see him out here in the mountains breathing fresh out because you know Mr my face and window my face and I'm with friends and Yeah I've got an on facts on the number mountain -til behind you as well because he might be thinking about to die but maybe twenty five thirty mountains behind you you know. There's a million achievement. These people just do one mountain diane thing. They've done really well so congratulate yourself and what you've done try not to think about the whole thing at any point until the mountain left. Yeah so that's all very good. Good wisdom thank you great just sitting here and giving someone and I you still a running writer. What was the book that you are working to deadline on earlier in the year? And what's your next. Well I did one more running boot which was about Emeals Arte Great Czech Slovak strikeout. The of the of the forties and fifties is cool today. We don little And that was very absolutely a hero. Very timid tradition of of Joe. Snyder is nothing people. Even Joy Petersen classmate well enjoy the but then because I go meridian interest in Czechoslovakia in history and check turns evil and so I was just finishing his one. It's about about Czechoslovakian Jockey. Lata brandis about who was the first woman that she she won the grunt. Todd steeplechase we live this dangerous steeplechase in Europe and grand national book a bit crazy and she those American story and she was a pioneering woman. Jockey writing assignment linen ride So it's not about running told us about tracing. It has similar traditions of very very tough courageous athlete Handles this thing just fell running? Sometimes a woman it turns out to be tough than a man in a thing which is supposedly all about this and much strength. Plus icing really. Well thank you so much for you. Time Today. And thanks for dispensing such wisdom. I'll email you the link to the track. I once I get it. If you're interested in we'll be watching progress interest Good Lord. I'll tell you I feel that it will it? Sounds like you call the right attitude and I think a bit of humidity is always good to to get around it. Just sleep and you'll do it. Thank you my partner in the two of US. Making the attempt together and He is an accountant. So I I'm bringing the kind of creative. Oh let's make the podcast about media flair and he's the one that's meticulously planned are up and down each peak so I feel like we make a reasonable team. So good to yeah. I'm excellent. Okay well I really wish you. Good luck yeah. Try to enjoy because That's nothing I think having diamond to dissociate. I've tried to enjoy his long date. Be Out there. If you'RE GOING TO BE MISERABLE. Yes very wise. Good luck thank you. Bye Bye two weeks to go before the pop up and I'm doing is pretty much the weirdest thing I've done running lies which is on a Friday night after work for K. Talk to Ivanhoe pecan. Beautiful looking beautiful in the Chilton's about halfway to be quite strange. See Not Sadier. Doger's of the energy no the nation to join him. Go that way some open. The rain is going to Tampa and the other silly to mine. Although nice to be asked to be honest two weeks to go pretty good day this has been a good test and the head torso catalogs pretty much. Well see I'm just a short addendum to tooth brushing update massive crushing low subsidize bad mental health episodes worrying about taking too much on and trying to fit everything in making another podcast at the same time. I'm building up in training for the to become another podcast and trying to garden and trying to buy people birthday presents moms and Madonna just felt like you know too much. Can't handle it then so. I had a bit of a black day on on Saturday but did manage to get out for a run ended after much support from my life. She said patient one second week still is to okay. I'll come and so two out. Yes Oh one got this morning. You just have to be disciplined all the time to think and then I'll do of single wheels. Sometimes they did on Saturday but two days later and I've had a store that all the music apply seems to be like a bell is ringing and from the way that I feel Bell Sties Appeal. I would sway. I was sway is almost black. Have enough training probably now. I never get no way round this ball shut could do it probably do. I even have kit will just about but have as yet just got to hope for the best.

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Through The Looking Glass At The RNC

News O'Clock

22:56 min | 2 months ago

Through The Looking Glass At The RNC

"Armed men killed two protesters during demonstrations against police shooting of Jacob Blake in Wisconsin Kate McKinnon. Tire King Show is officially coming to NBC and Buzzfeed News White House reporter. Diego but talk about the RNC's so far and what is signaling for the General Election Campaign Date August twenty six, two, thousand and twenty todd. Music. Loud. Everyone Brown and I'm Casey Rackham welcome to buzzfeed's musical Before we dive it we don't have much in terms of updates about hurricane laura accept it seems really bad right now just got upgraded to category four storm once it hits landfall later tonight after this episode goes up. So if you're in the area fleas evacuate if if you're told to please. I ventures as top stories. Here's what you need to know. The second night of the Republican National Convention featured all of the through the looking glass vibes with the first with bonus sprinkling of ethics violations. Former Florida. Attorney General Pam Bondi spoke out against nepotism and corruption in her speech. Why should there be one standard for the elite political class and another set of rules for the rest of us? When millions of Americans voted for Donald Trump they knew he'd be different. It wasn't ironic. Trees have bond to give that speech for a few reasons. I being the Donald Trump donated twenty five thousand dollars to bodies reelection campaign when she was considering investigating trump university, the investigation never went forward second because immediately after her on the speaking list was the president's youngest daughter Tiffany and third because your speech focus on the allegations against Joe Biden and his son hunter that trump was impeached for pursuing. But that wasn't the biggest ethical breach last night broadly speaking under the Hatch Act Federal officials aren't allowed to campaign using federal property or funds. But last night, there were three major examples of that being ignored secretary of State Mike pompeo addressed convention while on an overseas trip. Mike. Prompt now. I'm speaking to you from beautiful Jerusalem looking out over the old city. I have a big job. As, Susan's husband and Knicks dead. Susan and Nick are more safe and their freedoms more secure because president trump has put his America first vision into action. May. Not. Have made him popular in every foreign capital, but it's worked. The president also watch as acting. Secretary. Of Homeland, Security Chad Wolf conducted a naturalization ceremony. Mr President, wanted again commit you for your dedication to the rule of law and for restoring integrity to our immigration system. Thank you for hosting such a patriotic celebration here at the White House today and president trump issued a pardon to joe ponder a former bank robber who turned his life around. So. Now I'd like to invite John's wife Jamie to join us as. Grid John I'm not sure you know this a full pardon. The White House said last night that the naturalization ceremony was official business that just happened have the public footage used during the convention and White House Chief of staff mark. Defended the choice of this morning in conversation with politico nobody outside of the beltway really cares they expect that Donald trump is going to promote republican values and they would expect that Barack Obama when he was office that he would do the same for Democrats and so. Listen this is a lot of HOOPLA that's being made about things mainly because the convention has been so unbelievably successful. Moving on last night in Kenosha Wisconsin two people are dead and another wounded after confrontation between protesters and armed group of civilians. The demonstrators were on the streets protesting the shooting of Jackie Blake. A police officer shot that twenty, nine year old in the back seven times as he was attempting to get into his car and according to his family. He made never walk again as a result. Here's a sister Latisha addressing a press conference yesterday. This isn't that they knew. I'm not. I'm not sorry. I'm angry. and I'm tired? I haven't cried one time I stopped crying years ago. I am Numb. have been watching police murder people that look like me for years details are still coming in, but here's what we know about last night's shooting. As we're recording this, it occurred after confrontation at a gas station between protesters and a group of armed men said, they were there to protect it from vandalism. A local militia had put out a call on facebook to defend the city from quote evil thugs, but it's unclear if the group was responding to that message. Still, also unclear how the confrontation began but as buzzfeed news reported a video shared on social media shows a man carrying a rifle and running down the street as protesters follow him. As he falls to the ground, he fires multiple shots into the crowd. Sound of other gunshots can also be heard from elsewhere. The armed man is then seen walking down the street towards a police car with his hands in the air as armored trucks pass by him. So at the time of reporting this I'm unclear. Has Been, arrested. That's I. Don't know I mean I'm seeing reports on twitter going around that they've identified a person that he's been arrested in. Illinois after fleeing State Wisconsin. But that has not been confirmed as far as I've seen yet, and as ever I wait for buzzfeed news to check up on that before. Anything confirmed because they are very dedicated to getting it, right? Yes definitely. Yeah. I mean. It's incredibly heartbreaking end. Yes. Numbing was until Letitia talk about her brother I mean this is what she seen. This is what she's seeing and how could she not be numb in this situation right cash and going back to the RNC the other night I want to highlight for our listeners that no matter what Mark Meadows it is a pretty big deal that the federal government is being used. To try and push the president to re election because it's something it's an obvious unfair advantage. You can't use the federal government horses to try and push election if you're not already in office and that's what the Hatch Act disposed before make it more even playing field because you don't turn like the secretary of state into just someone who's talking about how great you are all the time it's it's. Supposed to be a pretty clear line between trump the candidate and trump in the office of the presidency, and they're just working as hard to kind of Blur that line his let me tell you. I cannot wait to get through my next section so that we can talk to the because the RNC has just been awhile trip I completely agree okay Casey Europe. So this is fun we're going to have. A Tiger King Battle Royale on our TV sued with NBC confirming that Kate McKinnon will be playing wildlife advocate Carol basket in an upcoming serious. McKinnon has been reportedly involved with the project since March but now it's official official. The show will be a nonfiction take on the feud between basket end semi legal zoo owner, Joe Exotic not only will McKinnon be playing baskin. She's also set to be an executive producer. NBC said yesterday that the six episode miniseries which has the working title. Joe. Exotic will be released on NBC's broadcast networks, the Cable Channel USA and streaming service peacock the McKinnon vehicle who will be competing for viewers with a show. We talk about what feels like forever ago an eight episode show being produced by CBS starring Nicolas Cage as exotic I mean I can't even I forgot that happened but it's happening but both shows have the perfect place to shoot available to them. A judge awarded baskin ownership of Joe Exotic Zoo in May but the current owner says it's been shut down for good. Instead he says he's opening a new park that will. Be a private film set for Tiger King, related television content for cable and streaming services. I WanNa make fun of him for having such a niche sort of like idea business plan for this new park except it clearly is a good one at this point. Is a good one you're nervous though it's Yes. I. Am excited to see Nicholas interest exotic. Yes I'm excited Disea- Kate McKinnon as Carol Basket. But I will tell you I'm a little bit nervous because Carol Baskin as as we've seen from the show and just the new she's extremely litigious and this seems this seems like a potential moneymaker for her. So we'll see we'll see also why don't they just combine forces? Why isn't Nicholas Cage as? Imagine because that's too much. That's too much energy. Like star power that's too much as again I'm Nicholas Cage and Kate McKinnon and the safe thing which I think we should I really think we should at least should. Okay. After this break, we've got Buzzfeed News White House reporter could go on what to expect from the trump campaign ads wild RMC right back. Everyone then bullet here host of stuff that a want you did know in ridiculous history as a podcast does I am constantly reading and researching for upcoming episodes, but even I need an occasional break. So when I feel like I need some kind of mental pallet cleanser my go-to refresher is the mobile puzzle game best fiends. 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Welcome back the Republican National Convention is only half over, but already, it's been a surreal mix of Trumpian showmanship and dire warnings about what Joe Biden Administration will mean for America and with the election ten weeks away. It's all feeling like just a warm up today. To be talking to Buzzfeed News White House reporter could he go about the RNC and what it will mean for the general election thanks for joining US Katya. Thank you hey, thanks for having me so far. We've had a pretty wild time even with some of the speeches pre recorded and no audience for most of them. So who would you say is the audience for all of this who are the Republicans targeting? His. Majority his base, right Mike he just wants to reinforce. Everything is his been saying for the past three and a half years but. You know the told criminal activity criminal justice reform, and the Weird Naturalization Ceremony we saw I think that he wants to target. People teetering straddling between voting for him or not voting for him amid this whole all the racial injustice protests that are going on right now to prove to people. Hey, I'm not a racist you should actually vote for me. Look I. do believe in you know a better diverse America. The Republicans promised a more uplifting and optimistic view during their convention than the Democrats is that what we've been seeing he Asu by positive, they may have been talking about like all the accolades they gave the to president trump I mean if any of your listeners were tuned in, they saw that speakers day lots of praise of the price of an on. Some would say it was a little bit over the top and perhaps delusional after polling suggests that many Americans feel like he mishandled pandemic response. I'd say it almost felt like we were no longer in a pandemic. In fact, if anyone they sold Larry cudlow totally which is like the director of National Economic Council Right Pretty Important Guy in terms of like. The Nation recovering after the pandemic. He spoke about the pandemic in as if it were in the past tense. US has ten when he talked about it. So and then obviously there is. A lot of meeting up one Biden. Would you would expect but Aides very dark. I'd say it's his approach to striking fear with people who might want to vote for. Biden it's. It's weird in a sense because they're painting him as extremely progressive person or candidate that wants to take away your rights in many Democrats understand that this is like a very centrist Democrats, Joe Biden. So I don't know I think it's a weird approaching it. He was on dark in the convention ashore. So mentioned the pandemic first lady Melania trump spoke last night and she was one of the few speakers to actually acknowledge the coronavirus and the debt that it's caused our lives have changed drastically. The invisible enemy Kobe nineteen. Swept across our beautiful country. And impacted all of us. My deepest sympathy goes out to everyone. WHO has lost a loved one And my prayers are with those who are ill or suffering. I know many people are anxious and some feel helpless. I wanted to know you're not alone. Why do you think that is? Yeah. So I've been thinking about this. I want to preface this by saying reporters are given a preview of Egypt's. Up toward about an hour before that didn't happen last night even though Tim Scott the night before south. Senator Phil. The same slot and we did receive his speech. So it's unclear. Emphasis was plan her you know like. Acknowledging a victims of the coronavirus it's unclear if this was planned or based on feedback at the campaign was maybe hearing or report for not acknowledging the victims and I responded pandemic so I can't I can't really tell. So. It could have been like a last minute surprise which would like make no sense. But like every kind of sense if you consider how to handle the convention. In terms of corona virus. So I can't really tell this planned or not but it was you know she got a lot of. A lot of preach for for like you know being a single person that pointed that out and apparently none of the attendees APP Milania speech the Rose Garden were tested for coronavirus is that something? The White House is addressed as a problem? Yeah. No, they haven't in fact. It's extremely controversial considering that every time a reporter is in the presence of Sean at the White House we have to get tested. And when we walk into a room with him, we have to get our temperatures checks so and then I also conflicting reports on this. The deal reporter from the daily caller said that everyone was tested but that's a very, very friendly outlet but then he said that around eleven o'clock. But then like shoe am report from CNN basically well, actually they got statements from Alania trump's. A person said, yeah a portion of the people weren't tested. So I I don't know if. There's been no clarity says in a bit alarming moving onto the of the ANC. What do we have to look forward to over the next few nights? Oh, I don't know. Advantage. Big will hear more of the thing. Sadly, I was unimpressed call earlier this morning and Timur talk spokesperson for the campaign said. You're going to hear a lot about American military and law enforcement tonight. So that should be interesting following what's going on in in the mid. West right now with shooting in subsequent protests. We'll see a lot of. Mary interested in seeing what's GonNa happen during like this hurricane is as bad as they expected to be, it's going to be really interesting wear the president gives his speech if people are gonNA attend. Ev-. GonNa be weird in the moment after a like an entire area is being decimated and he's given is like Bokram speech that'll be interesting. So I'm looking forward to seeing that and I'm looking forward to seeing how they talk about the pandemic going forward after so much criticism on having handled it so far. So what would you say has been the wildest moment to you so far of the RNC and do you think that moment will be topped? Okay I think the naturalization thing was crazy because this is a person that has been actively limiting immigration to the country. So to panacea on display. Someone from West Africa someone from Latin America like five people trying to become citizens just like put on display in front of America to say like, Hey, like you know I support. Thing, which is interesting because. No President before him actually thought otherwise he's the one that keeps talking about like you know like we should like closed on our borders etcetera in you know he's the one that talks about immigration. That was pretty crazy and I gotta point to the Larry Condo thing like that. He talked about the pandemic in the past. Tense. It's extremely jarring and for people not totally paying attention. Aid is very misleading. They're tired of hearing about the pandemic, right? So yeah. A lot of revisions stuff going on and if interesting that the lack guy who was pardoned the person, the only black person I got that kind of airtime during the RMC happened to be a black person who was talking about like their criminal pass. It really puts in perspective into perspective where this administration sees people of color especially black Americans who having to be the people. That are getting shot by law enforcement it. So I'll leave you with that right that was John Ponder. We talked about him earlier in the show I said on twitter the other night that I guess the president would pardon fully or promote a military officer who's crimes he's pardoned before. So that's my guess putting that out there as my guests for the crazy, we'll see tonight. Also you know wouldn't it be funny if we saw him live from the situation room tomorrow Josh Swirling in the background. And Red theme of the hurricane by combined while. Television, horrible for the country but wow while. I gotTA give that credit. Matt. Berman who kind of threw that out L. loud for them. Possibility Once all of this is over the general election is officially on how much of this convention is a preview for how the reelection campaign will go. Yeah. I don't think it's going to change much I think you're gonNA see the same rhetoric from two thousand sixteen that has been in the White House for the past three and a half years I don't think I don't. Plan very well. I. Think they figure wow. This businessman got into office by energizing specific base less just key into that base and try to bring some more maybe suburban moms along the way who are convinced at their full link as did well because of trump and he's not a racist because he naturalized five people in front of everybody today. All right. Well. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate you so much for taking the time and good luck with covering the rest of this. EVENT, we'll call it an event. Lock. That's Today's show. Join US tomorrow. As we see if cadenas predictions were right and remember Hurricane Laura looks bad please evacuate if they tell you to please please please get out of its way. Thank you. Be Sure to subscribe to news o'clock on the iheartradio APP. Apple podcasts or wherever you go for your sound stories and please take the time to leave its rating. 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SerifaCast #60 - Menos mi-mi-mi, mais Cariri, com o jornalista e cronista Xico S

Serifacast

47:09 min | 4 months ago

SerifaCast #60 - Menos mi-mi-mi, mais Cariri, com o jornalista e cronista Xico S

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JENS PERSONAL NOTES | 3 TIPS FOR CREATING A BEAUTIFUL HOME

Inspirational Interviews with Jen Rodd

30:30 min | 6 months ago

JENS PERSONAL NOTES | 3 TIPS FOR CREATING A BEAUTIFUL HOME

"Hi. Guys welcome back to inspirational interviews so a couple of weeks ago I. I created a personal notes insert at. Corona really started to yet. Take effect here in the Netherlands. And I had some comments off to that from a few followers and fans that said it would be really cool if I did this. Maybe every on every six episode Sir. I thought okay well. Let's not such a bad idea It's a nice way to connect with you, and for you guys just to get to know more about who I am. Since I'm the one you know always asking the questions and Just makes the show. More meaningful gives more depth and yeah like to be open and transparent about life, and you know I'm always asking people questions as well, but they live so i. think it's a nice Give and take scenario. So this week I thought what would be really cool to address was the harm and sad just gave it a bit of thought non the last hours. Also just you know really wanted it. Is That I. Want to actually communicate. And what message is I wanted to maybe bring across in this episode and. Because, all of us have been sorry intimate in our homes in the last weeks, I think the harm is such a nice place to explore today. And if you look at a few of the comments on ITUNES ITUNES FOR EXAMPLE A few of my guests, who before I was having all my interviews in the studio and my studios at the house or have a separate area that's separate room. That's a studio and but yeah you know people would come into my heart. My guess would come into my home and. I had a lot of comments. In fact I think almost infect, not think every single guests that came into my home, had comments about about my harm and about the studio. And Yeah you know when you when you open your life up to people, you open your home up to people. You you get feedback in one way or another, and obviously in this case for me. It was really Nice, positive feedback and Not. Just my guess but I've had people. From all over the neighborhood who come into my home, and they just get a lot of compliments about the way I, stole my Herm, and the way I design it and. Position the furniture and every time people come into the house. My House looks different and I've rearranged the furniture so anyway. I thought this is a cool place to start it something I. Have Personal Knowledge of it something I've always invested a lot of time into his harm and interior and Auden and design, so yeah, it's Yeah, it's something that inspires me paint a lot in my free time, and I'm always inspired by textures and colors, and I'm always inspired by the spaces in the Harmon for me. Every single space in the home has a has a purpose has a meaning and you give it a meaning, and you give it a purpose and certain to do that. You know even if. space in the house is empty. It's it's it's an intentional empty space. Everyone has a home and you're all interested in your own home. So think let's just start there and I don't want to make this too long, but what I do want to do is to maybe just inspire you to re look at the way. Your home is right now. Since everyone is so intimate in their homes, and they still all going to be for who knows how long because. yeah, they are opening up schools again here in the Netherlands, but it's not gonna go full tilt straightaway, and there's also a lot of. Conversation about this coronavirus in terms of Yeah is GonNa? Come back and you know. People who have had corona the first time they not actually will. They don't have enough research to say that they are immune. To the virus, so we don't have enough information about it, but what we do know is that we all going to be in our harms still? For the next weeks and months, and we don't know how long they always say. A homeless with a hot as we all know that expression, but a homeless we charge at a homeless way you also reenergize, and if your home is not giving you those things, you need to make a few adjustments, and so these are my tips that I wanted to shave. In terms of the harm getting in touch with what's important to you like? Maybe, just writing a list of like what colors inspire me for example. Some people don't like Brown. They just very clear about the fact that they just the color Brown does they just don't like the Culebra and I love the Calabrian. I love earthy colors. I'm very much sort of natural type of personality. In terms of I appreciate natural fibers and textures and I love nature as well and I get a lot of inspiration from there. I've always liked brought on I. Mean even when I was eleven years old I used to wear Brown jozies so. Oh pullovers whatever you call them in your country get in touch with what colors inspire you and have a look around your home. Do you have those collison your heart, and while we're on the subject? If you do have a look around your harm, what colors do you have? So maybe write that down and see know how the to add up in terms of what color inspire you and what colors you do, currently have in your home. How what? What is the color of your furniture? Maybe you have a raid chair in your house and actually you don't even like the color rate, but you've got. A big rate couch or some raid posted chase and every day you looking at these chains that don't excite you at all, and you know that you can very easily repulsed your your own furniture. With say easily I'm not saying it's easy, but it is possible, and since we're all at home at the moment, diy projects are yet accessible, so you know there's nothing stopping you from giving that a Gar- and from just Chad, just maybe even going to buy some secondhand fabric and painting yourself with with fabric paints, or you know getting just very plain simple cotton. That role cuts in. That hasn't even been colored Yates and Painting that and repulsed in your your chase with that or your furniture with that you know. If the reupholstering thing is not for you. Skip pastas. What I'm just trying to make you aware of is your home and what your home looks like at the moment and is your home inspiring to you? So that's just one thing. Look at the colors. Look the color of your curtains. The colors of your you like I said you change the colors of your your rags. All the colors of y'all do they cover? Just check in on that and in on colors at inspire you and chicken on the colors that you currently have and see if they match up so that's one area in terms of colors I think colors are so important. We are very as human beings. We super affected by colors. They even have the colors in the shockers and you you know you. Might they take you in meditations? They take you through these different shuckers to to get your mind at a certain level of peace and color. Have this effect on us? That is the either energize us all. They calm down. Check in with that. Maybe look it up on on the incident as well if you really want to go further into that research on color. And the other thing. That, I wanted to mention is. Everyone is creative a really really. It's not that I. Really believe that it's I mean I just know that? Is Creative and they actually have to put a hand to pay off hand to a canvas. They to piece of fabric or they had to a mixing. Bowl with you know Dr and flour and eggs and. Every single human beings is creative by nature by default. If you're born into a human body you're create of. Specie and it's just about figuring out like which channel of creativity excites you, and for me I get yeah. I get excited about different. Areas of creativity. I had a friend of mine not ahead. He's still one of my best friends. And he said to me Jane. You know what your problem is is that you're good at a lot of things and It is actually it sounds a bit weird i. mean that sounds good boastful actually, but I don't mean it in that way at all. It's just that I am creative. Voice had the confidence to just do it and I think that's. through growing up with parents that always believed in me and always encouraged me, and I was also the youngest. I had to kind of get on with things know my brothers were always the ones dictating what we were doing with the day, and I kind of had to go along with everything. So you know I kind of just found my my self expression through having yet a very. Busy family and growing up male dominant environment, so yeah, maybe that's where I got my confidence. You now whistle so the only goal of three brothers Sir You do Co. sort of come into the world differently. If you're the youngest and you're the only goal. Of three older brothers. But the point is, is that I do love creativity. I love baking love cooking. I Love Painting and I love styling my harm, and I love visualizing things with people. That's why I love asking people live questions you know. Getting into people's minds, and it's a creative process for me getting. It's like I get into someone's head, and then suddenly I'm in this whole movie you know, and I'm I'm sort of meandering through their life, and that's how I see it. I see it in stories sem pictures, and that's why I always ask questions, because I like to see my mind's eye. So. Points of this is what I want to say. Is I'm? Paintings on your wall and do you have any paintings on you wall that you yourself have painted? So my point in this is you. A lot of people use the excuse that they don't have money. And they hate. It made me not saying it today. Friends You know that you don't have money, and that's why you don. T hostages Look Nice. You don't have any nice paintings in your home or you know your house just doesn't inspire year and my. Except here is why don't you give it a more at trying to paint your own? Masterpiece painting in your home. Just try it see see where it takes. You just get a piece of canvas, and even if you don't have calves, get a piece of fabric you can even paints acrylics on fabric. You can use any paints on a fabric. Obviously put back. You can put in the wash if you using acrylics, because that that will get may stop, but fabric paints you can, although I'm not always at the moment A big fan of the fabric paints I love fabric paints, but they do wash out, so you lose the intense colors and I'm all for the sort of intense popping colors I love. Contrast in colors and not always. Like I said I loved browns and Beige is and all those sort of pestle Booth Colors but my point cherries. Why don't you give it a Gar- at trying to paint? A painting for your own home and you know this brings up a story. Yesterday My daughter asked me to paint her dinosaur, and to her not painted, so draw a picture of dinosaurs, so sit city well listen. Why don't you saw a picture first and then Yeah, and then I will draw when foliage they'd known Argh. You've got to do it for me, so I said. You I do one, and then I'll do one for you. And it went backwards and forwards like this ages as you can know. What a six year olds willpower is like. SAR. Anyway eventually I sort of settle down. Because this this is a story for another day just in terms of the whole school system and you know how you make or break. Kids confidence at school, and that's a whole nother conversation. Maybe for next time I'll I'm going to talk about that, but not. All of my audience are parents. Are It's although it's still interesting, but we'll get onto that another time, but for now Madonna asked me to to draw a picture a dinosaur, and so I sat her down and say to her. Listen What is it about not wanting to draw dinosaur? Is it because you're afraid that it's going to be ugly? Or is it because you just don't feel like drawing a picture of a dinosaur? And so she said well. It's because she's afraid. It's going to ugly and I said to her okay well. What if I say to you? that. It's going to be amazing like what if I to you that maybe that like? that. No matter what no matter what you draw, it's going to be awesome. It's just gonNA. Be a cool dinosaur. No matter what you. Would you then? Draw the dinosaur and she sees. So that's kind of. Funny listen that. Yeah seem super appropriate to bring into this tip now. Is Why don't you give that a try? Why didn't you just have that mindset of no matter what you do, it's going to be awesome and just go and paints something for your home whether it's on a piece of fabric and the reason why almost the same fabric has because I. Don't want anybody to come up with excuses. Oh, it's corona. Have anything and you know it's easy to get your hands on. Some paints most grocery stores have sort of these basic paint sets or you know the shops generally open, and you can also order things online SAR. yeah, why don't you try and draw? I mean not draw draw, but my point is because we're talking about the harm is why didn't you try and make a painting for your home and use this philosophy that no matter what it's GonNa look like it will be awesome. Just, give it a guy. I day you to give it a go, and he's just send me. An email or text takes but Sameer. Or a message on instagram. Let me know that you've done that, but I rarely recommended I've been painting own paintings for a long time and Yeah, it's I. Get so much joy and satisfaction from the paintings that bring into the world, because I never know what I'm, GonNa Paints and suddenly you'll find that when you start to paint if you just sort of let go. And trust in the process, you'll be amazed at what you come up with. Genuinely you will be amazed at what you come up with, and I think if we go back to tip number one in terms of colors in your home. Just forget about even trying to paint something specific because a lot of people win, the painting is they want to paint something something, so they want to paint like a flower or an elephant. That's what they think. I need to paint something well. For the first painting, just make it abstract Dr Make could something, and if it comes to be something that actually suddenly it looks like you know like a chicken or Turkey, or whatever, also, because that's often what happens when you paint is that turns into something but Focus on the colors focused on the colors that gives you joy and bring you energy, and make you feel revitalized, or maybe you want to focus on colors that make you feel at peace or make you feel calm, or make you feel balanced, Sar. Yes Oh. Let's so that's number two so basically tip number one is. You're going to look at the colors in you harm, and you're going to just write down a little list of what colors do I have in my home at the moments? And what colors? Do I like and what kind of don't I like and just see how this list adds up, and then yes, see what changes you can make around that, so it's about colors and the next one is about creating your own painting, so just do it and you're gonNA. Use The philosophy that no matter what painting you create. It's going to be awesome, so those are. Are Two tips for you. Guys I. Don't know if I want to keep going for too much longer. Because maybe I can elaborate on this again at another point, but I think I will. I'll. I'll give another another tip. So the other tip is in terms of spaces. If you look at your home now, you sit back and you look at your harm. Some people have a smaller apartments, also them. Some people have been a harm. Lots of spaces. Different rooms also awesome doesn't matter. A home is a harm, and that's where you live now, and you have the power to make a home beautiful. You do not need a lot of money to make a home. Beautiful I have bought so much of my furniture from secondhand stores like so much and people do not even more because I just a- combined things beautifully, and it's the way I combined colors, and it's also about. The fact that when you do, come into my home, everyone feels amazing because my harm has been touched with so much love I'm just very conscious of creating a beautiful home and also very conscious of creating beautiful spaces. I I love it but I. Love it because I know that it brings me so much joy, because it's my home and I live in my heart, and my children are in the harm and I see every room or every corner space as an experience. So this is my next point is take a look at your home and look at the spaces. Now Every area of your room, so let's maybe just look at the living room as an example, every area of your living room. Is a space that can be functionally used for something. Now the way I see it is I look at. My home and I look at my husband. And I and a look at our kids and I look at what is important to us. What are the things that we enjoy doing? So we enjoy We enjoy playing games. We enjoy food and eating we love. We love our red wine We love into -taining I love to see the kids busy and playing and developing. These things rambling off so right also less now just in terms of. What other things that interest you and your partner, or just you if it's you learn, and or if it's you your partner and your kids, the people that are in your harm. What are the things that interest all of you so just less done a few things that interest all of you and and they look at your harm. And see if you'll harm is giving you the space. To roll out those things that interest you so for example say you enjoy. Playing Backgammon. Do you have a space in your harm way. You can visualize yourself. You can see yourself sitting and playing backgammon with your husband, or if it's maybe a board game with your kids ever it may be. Do you have a nice space where you can see yourself having a Nice Cup of coffee? Or maybe you're not coffee. You're more into T. maybe you're not into. t you more into whiskey. Maybe you're not into whiskey more into glass of red wine. Can you visualize yourself sitting comfortably with a nice set of low lamp? You know providing a nice sort of. Lighting or you know? Maybe it's a bit brighter if the if the kids or you know depending on what atmosphere you like to create in your house. Can you visualized sitting in space in your home i? Said delivering living room to begin with. Can you visualize yourself sitting there? And playing that game. And And if you don't have that space, then, look on your house and see we'll wait. Can you just bring to chase together and a table and just creates a nice little corner in your home or little doesn't have to be in a corner can be on the side of a wall or you know you look around and see but. Creating spaces for experiences in Messiah important always found this really important functional spaces creating spaces that suits. The personality of your family that suit yourself. So if you're the one listening to this, and you can even just start with something for yourself, maybe you also into Yoga. For example you don't have to have a whole separate room to going to yoga, but do you have a little space in your home that you can call my little sanctuary corner all my little. My little it can even be at the end of a passage, but maybe you you know you put a nice little sainted lamp there and I. Don't know what what rocks your boat. You know spiritually, but whatever across Roberta or but you have something spiritual day that that immediately makes you feel calm and at peace, or maybe it's a shell from the ocean. You know some are. You don't gain have to have a whole. A massive house with a separate room for that you can create just a section way immediately. When you come to that space in your heart, you can connect with that energy and connect with the function that you want that space to help you to perform, and in that case it would be the yoga, but then the other case you creating sort of that more entertainment, the fun you know the yeah, the. The yeah, Playing Games family time and you. You just bring to chase together in a nice little table and guys. You can go to second hand shops. Obviously not in lockdown. You can find things. online sick from secondhand stores are what everyone's possibilities all with that or you have a table on your house, and maybe you can repaint it or put a tablecloth over it, and you get a little lamps and. Lampshades, you can even paint yourself and again you know. Use The philosophy of no matter what you paint Senate is. Look Amazing, so those are my three tips that I'm GonNa leave you guys with where all in our homes at the moment. Look at the colors in your home if the colors are aligning with the person that you are. Create a painting for your harm. You know no matter what it looks like. It's going to be amazing and the third tip is creates a few little spaces, no matter how big or small your houses create a few little spaces that can create a function, and those are the spaces that you know when you know you go to that space, it will. Promote these different feelings within your fun or on the Yoga side, more peace and holistic spirituality or whatever? So those are my three tips guys but John Hope you can benefit from those three tips and. Hope, all of you guys are. Just yet taking the most of what you can right now in the situation and I really believe that you know it doesn't matter what situation posts in united had a live interview a two weeks ago. with one of my guests on the show I was just saying you know if you use corona just as a major foreign life for when things get tough, you know I think you. You either off. Someone that purchase things negatively or positively, and in this case, people are using corona to their benefit of approaching it negatively or positively, and just check in with yourself on that you know because if y'all thought process is very negative at the moment. remember that corona is just it's just another one of those negative things or maybe positive things that have happened to you and. you can always switch it around to your benefits so. Check, in with that and I wish so much positivity and. Energy on all of you guys and Y'all have an amazing week and please don't hesitate to send me a message if you want to and yeah I look forward to bringing you guys to our next episode next week. which will be with tastes? Fun Bokram who is? Against that I had a my show. Who is now living in? Portugal on a tiny little island, and he decided to change his whole life around, so he's going to be a super cool person to to listen to and Yeah, hit the like pattern Shay this on with friends. I'm so excited about the show. I have people from all over the world listening I get so many positive comments back from people, and I'm really approaching this as openly as authentically as honestly as the person that I am. my instagram. Guys haven't seen that yet is yeah. It's very much who I am. I'm trying to sort of really connect with my audience on the most. Authentic and yeah, honest level that I can so that. Yeah I guess so that I build a community of people that you know what to expect. They know who I am and And also since I'm the one who's interviewing people. for me. It's really important to be as transparent as possible you know without like completely prostituting earn life to social media, but it's about sort of striking that balance, and always checking in with that, and checking in with my sincerity to myself in this as well so excited about this Shar inspirational interviews I'm excited about you know what I do with my life and I guess that's what I'm always just trying to inspire. inspire other people to connect with us to just connect with a truth, and to love a beautiful life united in my loss, personal notes insert that I lost a brother, and you know that really turned my life around losing someone so important to me. It made me realize that you have do. You have to be happy with what you do absolutely like you just have to. Love what you do. Because you get yourself to do that, because ultimately at the end of the day, the only thing that matters love and it's actually it's the connections with people will be the connections with people that will matter more than anything but what I realized on my journey losing. My brother is the fact that. We live every day while we're. Loving all the people around us, you still have to love yourself enough to do the things that you love and to really do the things that bring your energy, and you'll always know in your heart if you are connecting with that or not, and yes, it's a journey. You'd not always clear about things, but I think you know if you hearing this message now than you ready to open up. Up to really connecting with your heart, or just to recheck and realign and shift or yeah. Maybe this is a reaffirmation of the fact that you are on track, and and that you are doing the thing that you love and be proud of yourself and be proud of yourself for checking into this podcast show is listening to stories and listening to other people's ideas is important. That's what helps escrow. I'm always listening to other people's stories and ideas hints inspirational interviews of course, but you know that's what enriches my life, and I guess I'm just striving to live. As honestly. As I can honestly with myself, and if I'm as honest with myself, then that means I'll live a happy life, and if I'm living happy life than that will affect, my husband will affect my children and rule my friends and my community Emma neighborhood, and that's where it starts starts with you. And Yeah, so I wish that all of you guys going. Give my three three tips at try. Just as a final reminder, it's checking in with the colors in your home. What colors do you see Iran? You see how you can shift those around. The second one was creative painting for your own home. Don't be shy go and do it. It's going to be perfect, and the third one is is create one at least space on your home that provides a function for one of the things that you love to do in your home or your family, so if it's your little yoga space in the House that's always there as your little thin space, or maybe it's your games space, or maybe it's your. Yeah, you'll reading the newspaper with a glass of red wine or a cup of coffee or a chatty. Going create a few spaces in your home that speak to you and make you feel energized or com. Depending what it is that you need right now, so guys yeah, sending so much love have an amazing week and I look forward to connecting with you next week with tastes from Bookham. See you on the flip side.

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Why Service Professionals  Need to Hire Pricing Experts with Stuart Dodds

Impact Pricing

28:01 min | 5 months ago

Why Service Professionals Need to Hire Pricing Experts with Stuart Dodds

"Don't negotiate and fives. We like the five percent. Ten percent fifteen percent discounts by doing that for law firm for everyone percent additional discount. You're giving your clients. You typically taking back to folks of your existing margin talk coffee's for closers established. My proposal sent in principle now tries Forni fishing. Welcome to impact pricing the podcast where we discussed pricing value and the lucky or maybe unlucky relationship between them. I'm mark styling today. Our guest is Stuart. Odds here are three things you wanted about Stewart before we start. He's the CO founder positive pricing. Which is a pricing consulting firm focused on professional services firms? He's a board member of the legal value network and something unusual he lists Corsair courses. He's completed and they aren't the types of courses you might have expected easer history of rock philosophy mythology very well rounded person. Let's see what we can learn from. Stuart Welcome Stewart had the mark. And thank you for that. Nice instruction and I'll see if I'm well rounded by the end of the summer. I'm sure you're GONNA do great. So how'd you get into pricing by? Luckily actually my background was was always management consulting business consulting. I was primarily a supply chain consultant so I used to look after trucks sheds and warehouses not good stuff and in the late nineties. Purchasing procurement became quite a key topic so I moved into supply chain strategic prime saying SR strategic procurement Acumen epoch given that whole area right about two thousand and became more passionate from the beginning site from the negotiation. You explain volume extract following because of my role in procurement. I actually got headhunted for a major law firm in the UK to be that global head of pricing which at that stage is quite unusual. And I knew nothing about pricing so I had to say it. Mike Accumulates Mike Negotiation background industry. Flip the other way round so I did all the things that any novitiate do. I joined the official price society. I ran up on all the books. Are there and try to literally in subsume myself into the price in world and relate that back to what I knew which was the beginning world and that's Johnny started nice so I I rarely have nice positive thoughts around procurement people so luckily you left the dark side and came and joined us on the positive side over here so what was unusual about taking on a job at a legal firm. Why would they hire a pricing person? Because don't they just do hourly billing all the time and we got that down. It's easy I think that was one of the things that certainly the firm that I joined which is a very known magic circle firm right actually to try and change. I think they recognized firstly the impact the pricing on their bottom line and had been looking away to try and work out what to do but I joined. It was two thousand. It was just before the global financial crisis of his other. Great funding my by planning on my art but it meant a lot of doors. That would have been shelved when I'm usually open because people were wanting help and support. They needed to understand. How do they deal with? It ironically current market situation. Two Thousand and eight and two thousand twenty and they were trying to change the way that they engage with clients so they wanted to give greater certainty they wanted to pranks accordingly and a Lotta traditional waived in that was early Razzi for many professional services. That still has a role to play. They're trying to do something different. They needed to have a focal points. Are a resort so resources to help coordinate and train educate and comfortable fine facing conversations with acumen with the dark side from somebody who had she understood. Why had the dockside were asking that question? I appreciate the fact that you're willing to call it the dark side now. That's good all might be given friends I ever had to say to them. If they're listening I apologize in advance. Nice Nice let's talk a little bit about the pricing professional services so obviously law firms or professional services. What else do you think when you think of Professional Services Consulting background tonight? She coming from a background in Art. Consultancy firm laterally. We used a lot of pricing approaches. That are second nature of professional services so we use things to do with volume or restoring mechanisms we had blended rates. We had defend entry levels of differentiated pricing depending on the cycle in the volume of the work and I thought I was coming into joined legal. An industry that was more used to doing that. Because I'd seen it in my consulting we had fixed McAfee's only such things having spoken to a number accountancy firms engineering firms next aerial frowns advertising firms. There's a tendency to still to go back to the hourly rate and not explore different ways of delivering value to their clients and not at Shea. Getting better crying saying and better profitability for them as an organization is still relatively naive or immature in many sectors and that she ironically having joined the legal of consulting the legal sector of all of them has actually embraced the concept of having pricing professionals much. More active lay within their own organizations. I don't consulting to other organizations but within their own farms because they see the volume of it so when I joined the pricing community into the night the two people in law firms. The role is doing. They're not over four hundred so it's not one of the fastest growing professional areas within the legal services when I sing. That replicates in the competency farms are beginning to see that Another professional setups firms. Small why do you think it works? What he takes off legal more so than the accounting firms. I think party is the fact that it's maybe had a slightly longer heritage in legal. I mean to those night. It was not that long ago meal terms but I think the the the fact that those organizations saying benefit from having those types of goals in place and having a relatively small group as Arouse the small group of individuals could see the valuable has been delivered. We're hearing in either on gas or magazine articles that would be. I think a lot of people in cancer profession have been doing this. Siebel banker. Came from the You know he's great perspectives. I think certainly some of the organizations themselves have been a little bit reluctant to have somebody who's maybe not a fear on her helping provide professional support and Advice Guidance and coaching. Because they think that they can do it so I think there's a number of Almaz culture is that she often one whether it be law firms are not actually many law. Firms have tried having a pricing person. But if the not led to not Carson have role to play in conversations particularly the clients the volume the role has diminished significantly. Yeah absolutely so as I was thinking about the answer to the question that I asked a few things came to mind. First thing that comes to mind is lawyers probably deliver a lot more value than they actually paid for where. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure that's true with accountants and I say that in the following sense. I often teach a concept of will I in which one meaning. How much competition is there? And if I'm trying to get my bookstore. I can go to almost any accountant or bookkeeper and get my bookstore on a pretty solid well-known. Rhode where I got a legal problem. It's almost different every time so it isn't the same thing. Listen I'm just GONNA do indeed or a real estate transaction or something like that and so I could see how lawyers have less competition which means that people would probably be willing to pay more which means that. They're leaving more money on the table when they do hourly billing. Did that resonate with you at all? Almonds do not everything I think partly if I was speak to lawyers smarting in the UK have a chat with a a well-known firm one of the challenges that she date. They feel ill that they actually many of the services that they're providing are highly competitive is a distinction here between is a competitive from price. There's something else not the default for lawyer. Typically as is price related that finding discount which is the thing we try educate Janu Lake away from but I also think that there are certain things that a lawyer doesn't eat certain thinks Professor Vita does the very very high end is company type things. It's the reputation. Thank things but there's a lot of stuff there is also the run the business type stuff they commodity type stuff and no lawyer certainly likes to hear the word commodity type if they're three or four people very much your example bookkeeping if there are three or four people can do it. Amounts of December level is a commodity. So I think one of the challenges of law firms are having at the moment is identifying. Is it sample said differentiate to serve you add? Why can they be charging for certain services on how should they best support delivery of the other less different services to their client base in a way that makes sense? So then that makes a lot of sense. Our goal impact pricing is to help you become a major champion of pricing and value. This will undoubtedly increase. Your impact at your company will help you get promoted and make your company and now we have an unbelievable offer to shoot even further down that we just released our new insider program where you get access to all of our current and future course if you just take the courses. We currently have released. That's over two thousand dollars in value. The good news is we release courses at a rate faster than one every two months as faster than anybody's been able to take at least so far you get access to everything from the low price just one hundred dollars per month. That's a small portion of the raise. That may come with your next promotion to make this offer who wore a resist. We offer you your first month for only five dollars. Try A few courses. See what you learn this valuable. We're confident you're GonNa want to stick around. Oh and then I mentioned you could access to office hours one hour week. Zoom and answer questions more insiders considering charge a thousand dollars for one hour pricing consultation. That makes this a no-brainer. Go TO INSIDER DOT CHAMPIONS OF VALUE COM to sign up to take advantage of our special five dollar offer use the Promo Code insider now the special offer will end at the end of April. Twenty twenty join me and your colleagues as a champion of value insider. I'll see you on the inside. So let's talk about going to the car shop for a second. This whole thing of hourly pricing versus project pricing or solution pricing struck home for me one day when I was in a car shop and I saw a sign that said you could replace your battery for one hundred forty nine dollars or something like that and it suddenly hit me. You know what they don't say as you can buy a battery and pay US an hourly rate to replace your battery it was. Here's one hundred twenty nine bucks. We're GONNA replace your battery but on the other hand if I go in there and I say you know my engines making this little tinkling sound. Can you fix that? They're not going to give me a flat fee to fix the ticking sound because they have absolutely no idea what that is and so it seems to me when I think about this whole hourly versus project. It has a lot to do with. How certain am I that I know the solution to the problem? I think that's very fair. One of the things that I've seen in many conversations I've had with might pairs with clients as well when I was in law firms nights as a lot of it is the time to hide. Why deal within certain so highlight? She know that I've understood the problem correctly and often the client particular legal context but not sold in a legal context. It'd be doesn't understand. The problem is it's having that dialogue in that conversation. A one of the key challenges I think in most professional services the nature of the people who are successful. There are very strong opinions. They have lots of good examples in the Lots of your brain power gray sales expedite are using. But what challenges is that ultimate typically? Not Listening to the answers are not asking the right questions on one of the things. We've seen a huge movement to illegal also insulin. The other areas is chipping I think it's this auction but I'm not sure. Let's explore a bit more or less finding pricing mechanism. That works in this situation. So if it's something that is pretty easy to scope pretty easy to define pretty repeatable will last one option but if it's less obvious are the ways that we can get rid of the ambiguity. Can we use assumptions. More effectively and lawyers love assumptions? But the problem is lawyers. Love too many assumptions. They love fifteen twenty. Some best factor schedule is three or four and I find that very difficult because that means that they feel the taking on risk. Actually if you're engaging with your plant properly Camacho level you're building that relationship new demonstrates Trump's you're helping explain and explore and identify wall civic caused heck. Can we best support you? Commercially through that process. Yeah so when I think about this whole professional services field fascinates me because it's feels really hard to do pricing well and I say that because when I think about on the value side we could have value conversations. I I could start to learn how much value my my customer is receiving but it's still uncertain. I still don't really know what their values and on the other hand my willingness to accept the amount of time and effort. It's GonNa take me to get him to. His solution. Is also uncertain just tons of uncertainty in this whole whole path so I'll bet that's really challenging to get partners in firms to be willing to accept that much uncertainty. I think it is. I think the other thing that comes back to that is also. They are not necessarily commercially minded of business. Might I don't mean that in any derogatory wave of their focusing on the law in in the legal context next talking to a client What needs to be done? The Not Thinking about height is Mike succeed from a business perspective because the client as the Business Bokram. They don't have a legal program. Legal helps resolve the businesses the challenge so one of the things I see working sexually well currently is actually changing the nature of the conversation to say actually high Whatever area of low or whatever type of professionals advise our clients on? We're doing three to Doing that in the way that adds value to the client or so the googles of the Bank of America or whoever date at that corporate level and we were doing the things that you know people in other industries doing. So how can we help improve their revenues. We help increase their costs. We mitigate the risks had way at. She build their brand reputation. How can we improve cash so particularly at the moment so getting to think about it from a business perspective? Saying how does my approach support? That gives the parliament's competence because now they can say I understand how helping my client be successful. And maybe the client doesn't understand that you can engage clients. Does this look right? You did this. This is how you solve that Help you move to the next stage but we're also happened the client at the individual level. Not See this is certainly the personal professional services area. That's really important because it's the relationship. So how do I help my client? My clients succeed. may be successful in their organization and high disarray. The Idlib remind services differentiate may from everybody else it could be. I write in their language. Provide lots of Or background I have great network of introduced and then the third Ariza Jane. Hi Do I owe for something? That's Nicole petitional is differentiated from the competition. That directly addresses clients concern. I have lots of bells. And whistles of the client. Doesn't want the bells and whistles. That really doesn't matter so high. Can I tell not for that client? Nason is beginning to change. The dialogue. Outweigh is where I think. We're seeing the most movement seventy for law firms for other professors sperms by engaging directly with the client listening to the clients and speaking the language of business to the client I Love I love number one and number three. I think those two are incredible number two. Let's talk about it since I'm not I'm a little unclear or uncertain number two was I want the individuals that I'm interacting with to be more successful now. Obviously that's true right. Obviously we WANNA help them. How do I put value on that? I think is recognizing the first People Certainly Affect Services. Often underestimate awesome relationship. They have it's just how they do business. They like work with people like those lines but we often undervalued the impact that has to the individual so if the individual Louis. I can't conduct training my team to do all of the time. Can you conduct training my team? So they're helping that client that individually successful net departments. It could be around. I need to report. Might see or my board about what I'm doing but could veggie with a month. Dick reporter a weekly report outlines what we'll be doing hats adding volume business. I'm taking the noise and the pain away. I've even heard an example. One from a Pharma is working for who actually used to have their client. Picks there every time they visited a certain ligation. Take them back to their office and just let work the office that they took all the noise of the from Jimmy. Away as you say that's hard volume on a quantifiable volume on that. It has an emotional on Wayne. Not Client is to choose eight farm. I'M GONNA go to my normal providers and is going to be arranged providers. Maybe they're eighty dollars up to one hundred fifty dollars but typically gonNA choose the one that he liked to work with the one that helps them. And if you're the one hundred fifty end of the scale of eighteen scale they're gonNA CHOOSE. You'll not basis so building that relationships really quite important because when it comes to the Tender by the little things that you've done to help them because they like working with you because you make their life easier means you could probably charge a little bit more than you could normally. Are you charging rate? That's fair for the services that you're providing you know what I love about what you just said is I do a lot of work and subscriptions and what what you just reminded me of what that reminded me of was although I may not have a subscription as a lawyer what I do have is. I have a relationship. Ongoing relationship with. That person is making decision after decision after decision as to which law firm to go to and as long as I do. What SUBSCRIPTION COMPANIES CONSIDERED TO BE CUSTOMER SUCCESS RIGHT? I want to make sure my customers or super happy and getting a lot of value. Then they're much more likely to stay with us and that's just a great example of that even in the non subscription world. I think it comes back to the point which on your own we talk about. Human jokingly is the dark side but actually one of the stations I think people have had in the professional services. Acumen is brought into the pros SAS rightly or wrongly as being perceived a challenge that existing relationship because procurement dot to stand the relationship and she got sought role so recognize completely but the people are having discussions. Feel that threatens and they're being defensive and they don't understand hedging gauge with this new entity goal procurement to this well not so new anymore but some areas may be still is and that's where the unease happen that's swear thank people who've pricing background in that eventual background can help coach through those conversations. Say I'd say you peculiar in this. Context are also stakeholder if we can make their life easier. They're going to help us understand what's important to the client at the organizational level and. It's not going to be focused on purely give me. Your cheapest price is going to be helping deliver volume to my organization a hack. Can you help me do that? And it may cost more zone as multiple. I get as a client on. Probably she so again. It's recognizing all stakeholders are in this Mike. Okay Stuart. We're GONNA have a hard time going down this path because I really don't like procurement people so let me Let's not have this conversation but I wonder express a quick opinion. If I make everything that you said. I think makes a ton of sense. Where procurement cares a lot about. Are we getting value for the company? Are we getting? You know if I'm buying a product that's being built into something as my supply chain accurate and is it on time and in a mutt getting lying down issues and so these guys have a ton of value in that you take all of that into consideration and at the very end they always try to beat you up on price right. They will come up with every excuse and story and whatever it is to try to say oh your competitors or lower price or something else and that's the piece of it that really bothers me really bothers me so but all the other stuff I'm with you. They add value and a lot of ways. Just add one thing that I hope. Maybe come from the procurement side myself. Maybe maybe this is. I'M GONNA win my friends by there. Probably three types of be given. I think that the Chinese have many of us. We see a big amorphous Those who are back to purchase a product the buyer while service and shape completely great their main considerations Lewis cost. Because let's down. They get remunerated on what they saved. Best you know it's like you get what you measure so I think that's one group. I completely agree with what you're saying. Mark Enough C. N. Been there as well but I was. Maybe less gray hair. The second group. Are those live with the consequences. Kathy manager the Sourcing Manager. It's one who not only have a Dining the stakeholders within the business to make the decision because human will make the decision. They also have to live with the consequence. So they're going to want to choose something rebuffs his good easy to work with it provides volume analyze them to be able to look good in their organization back to one of the funds for four and is third group and actually. I was one of the third by fast. And that's the third party insults. It's the person who's brought in to do a pro SAS and they probably sit in the middle. A little bit first is focused on cost savings. The second is focused on volume. At least it should be because they have to be living by their organization of the ongoing relationship and the third party hired hand needs to be talking bad benefits so if the benefit is based on. I've got a lower price that's fine but it could be. I've helped deliver lines the organization. That's also find because again. They typically get remunerated on what they have provided to the business owners. We understand who were dealing with different perspective. That could be as simple as looking at their email signature. It allows us to tell our conversation appropriately. But the point. You made a well-made but maybe the tweets a little bit depending on that audience. I'm with you and you know I feel really horrible about talking about about anybody so young. I hear you fire you. I've just I've lived on both sides of never been procurement. But I've been in a company where I had procurement by multi-million dollar products for me and I've watched that work and I felt I felt guilty for my vendors and let's be honest it can work really well it can also are really really badly. I think one of the things I'm certainly witnessed in the last five. Six years in professional services space is increasing professionalization of people who are involved in in professional services. But May we get the ranchers to sue getting back? They're getting less wrong. Answers in the problem is regardless of how you break up the pie. Different people have with small little piece. And they're trying to optimize their little piece in. That just may not be the best answer for the whole company always and that's not just procurement. That's anybody in date. So all right you know. Unfortunately we are almost out of time. But let's wrap this up with the ultimate question. What's the one piece of pricing advice? You would give our listeners that you think could have a big impact on their business. Don't negotiate and fives. Don't five what does that mean so that. Summarize what that means particularly in professional services who typically how much higher margins the many other industries our margins are typically anywhere between thirty percent above for a we tend to Light Ryan numbers. We like things to end in five or zero. We like the five percent. Temps in fifty percent discounts by doing that for law firm for everyone percent additional discount. You're giving clients are professional services firm. You typically take about three to four percent of your existing margin so if you went from five percent to ten percents you just just your potential margin by anywhere between fifteen and twenty percent just because you wanted around number. So don't negotiate five cents Mytalk in Professional Services Nice. I think it's a really good negotiation tip anyway. I've never said it hasn't don't negotiate and fives. I always say make small steps. Why comes next as an excellent When you do something get smaller. And smaller and concessions are additional. Yes if I give you every time he asked me for the give you something. You're not going to stop. You want Nestle Vol you it so if I'm giving you something if you do this for me I'll do something. Forget it it's again making it conditional on that Diallo and again it's these little tweaks and not more commercial view. I think house build a relationship because you want your provider who in whichever area to be having the right commercial and having that strength of character. Something's not right for them. And if you just give discounts away it makes it hard for the client to believe that. You're being honest in the beginning employees. So if you give fifty percent discount and I've seen it on things like double glazing windows you have no faith nutritional price product though. Be True at that conference that you're living If you can quantify that fantastic but believe in frank Excellent Excellent Stuart. Thank you so much for your time today. If anybody wants to contact you can they do that? Had forbade just through my email fishes stewart dot dot at Dot Com or on Lenton and they can see my Sarah courses and we'll have some links that in the show notes as well episode sixty nine all done. Let's see what's my favorite part today. 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Sysbox: Containerization Runtime with Cesar Talledo

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Sysbox: Containerization Runtime with Cesar Talledo

"Containers and virtual machines are two ways of running virtual infrastructure containers use less resources than VM's and typically use the runcie open source container runtime. Sis Box is a containerization runtime that allows an alternative to run see and allows for the deployment of docker or Kuban Eddie's within a container. Caesar Tayo is the founder of Nesty box a company built around the box runtime. He joins the show to talk about container run times and his new company. Get, inspired and learn what's next in-depth setups at sneak con a free multi-track virtual event happening this October twenty first through twenty second. The event is designed to help development security operations. Teams accelerate the development of secure software. You can sign up today to hear from speakers like Gene Kim who's an award-winning CTO researcher and author of the Phoenix Project you can hear from Larry Macaroni on who is currently leading the cops transformation at comcast and Nicholas Chalan the chief software officer at the US Air Force at sneak con. You'll also have the chance to get hands on during technical sessions led by folks from sneak network with your industry peers and perspectives about engineering devops insecurity leaders from modern tech organizations such as salesforce, comcast, docker Atlassian data dog, and many more sign up for free today sneak dot co Slash Se daily. Caesar welcome to the show. Thank you think Jeff. I. WanNa Start with a simple question. Is a container run time. Container on time is a piece of software that actually creates the container it interacts with the underlying kernel to create the obstruction of the container. And why does the choice of container runtime matter it matters because? How you create a container makes a difference as far as how secure it is. What type of workloads can run inside of the container? So. Difficult read container on different characteristics. There are not many by the way. and. A nifty box we just have a one. which all it enhances container security as well as navels. Containers to run more factual workers are closer with typically running virtual machine walk but who would not normally run you know regular contain. What's an example of such a workload? Examples would be workloads that half deep interactions with the underlying but very system. What I called him system level workloads so regular containers. docker container that very would've running up. On its micro services, those rump seamlessly inside those containers. But when you run other types of software that have deep bring, their actions were down there lion over and his his team for example, things like docker itself ceased in the. Eighties. These type of workloads do not run easily is out of a regular container. So. That's an example system that will workloads that on xbox now renewables. This type of workers who runs seamlessly he said of container and with proper isolation. Why would I want to run Kuban eighties inside of a container rice? So that's a great question. That's a question that I get. Often you know, why would I wanNA run that tackle wardrobe effect container And the answer is for the same reason that you run the advertisement machine. What virtual machine does? It takes your underlying machine right your physical hardware and surface splits. Into Multiple Independent. Virtual host environments. That, you can then you can for different purposes nine, the other being though you know increasing the utilization of. The Land Commission? Containers normally are used for different purposes are normally used to run. Yes. Application micro services when they see walks is doing he's my neighbor containers to run these type of workers at. Run also in virtual machines but do not running regular containers were giving it teams and using general the ability to replace those virtual machines with containers. And enjoy some of the properties of containers as far as a fishing see the Speedo provisioning them under two pair portability. So the answer to the question is for the same Greeson that you run those words machines, you want to run these container where creating containers. That alternative to machines he mason here's. Is there a hyper visor like? Module in this picture, there isn't a hyper visor more. Joel. Because the technology that we use use a pure or as virtualization technology, there is no hardware level rotation, which is what hyper license do. Whether is there is a piece of flower container run time that we've created is called box. It runs below Dot Quran Kuwaitis type of run see. And this is a piece of software that not only creates the container, but it's also listening to some of the operations occurrence out of the container. To make sure that at all times percents. On abstraction you said of the container that resembles that of a physical host of. In. Other words. Processes running inside of such a container cannot really tell the difference between virtual machine. Container. Or physical machine, and that is what we need. This type of continuing to run many of the workers over running virtual machines, but it is not a hyper visor. There is no hardware level coach. Let's. and. That makes six books very different than many alternatives out there which do rely. On other, otherwise such a Scotto containers over firecracker which do rely on. Wrapping around containers. Virtual sheets with highly up to my search machines that the knowledge that we developed thirteen hundred, all you just pure voice live over twenty section. Does this lead to better utilization correct the idea of using pure level virtualization that you avoid some of your hits over to machines and you end up with higher efficiencies. As well as faster provisioning times. As you know with virtual machines. There's two things that are inevitable every time. One. is running copy of guest. Operating System. And second that you are making hardware and software. and. Those two things overhead to virtual machine. Day make efficient. The increase, the provision time, and they tied to a particular hyper vice. So, for example, find it vm on vm where I can really use that same vm. Now on AWS probation Yemeni, the US is stuck abuse, the vm Safa dependency of the underlying underlying. With these containers that nasty walks is now enabling that almost act like machines. But only use pure as virtualization. The are more efficient because they do knocker carry against Houston and they do not emulate hardware software they provisional much faster. There's no need to go into contracts guest system. And they're more. Because there are no Taito particular adviser there they rely on Lenox. So whatever Lennox is running, you can always play these these containers. So. So you work on Nesty box and nasty box is it should I think of it like a new docker or like a new cooper netties or like what's the analog? Here's you know nasty walks. The company is accompanied that he's. A high level developing solutions around always were twenty station trying to push the limits of voice Berkeley Station Right in order to gain efficiencies portability. As I mentioned before. Now the I wrote that we've created his SIS- box. And since box. He's a low level container runtime type of runs c eat seats logically below things doctrine coburn eighties it does not replace him in any way. It actually interacts with it. Easy Nabil's Concord Navy's. Who employed these enhanced containers? that. Have that are more secret on your regular container. On one hand and on the other can can run winning workers docker containers they can run the system will work within a described earlier and can lucile seamlessly. Without any complex. Tax For example. What do I mean by Nice aided they're more secure. I mean that. Six box containers always news feature Colonel User needs base. On what that featured this it may ensures that the root user inside of the container, he's mapped to a fully privileged user at the host. level. This is not the case with regular Bokram. That will use him the container east the root user at the hotel. Although Iran's inside of that container with a decrease set of capabilities and other features that limit what it can do. Nonetheless. If it worked with Cape. Container. He will find himself with permission to access manual liberal files grown files on system. That is not the case with. Containers with SIS books because they always use username space. Therefore. Process escaping the container would find itself with no permissions whatsoever to access any files on the host. So that's one aspect of now that's why I say that continues his at a layer of security are more secure than regular over containers. That's one. On the other hand they can run. System level workloads seamlessly. What I mean that is. One of these containers using docker grenades. Running them, Dr Coburn, eighties our system, the or many other workloads that are low. Interacted with Hunter Line. Colonel. And they will work seamlessly. It is currently possible to find the same of workers. Without his book you can run in regular containers but They're still cabinets. One of them he's unique what is calling privileged container rich docker container. That is a type of container that has very isolation. He almost bakes isolation between the container and the underlying host. It is a container in which the route using the container has full privileges at the host level full privileges. Very, isolation. And number two on top of running a privilege container you need to. These very complex docker images and around commands and complex docker entry points. In order to set up that container. In such a way that it can run the workflows that mentioned. With six box, all of that goes away. You're able to run the container more securely. Annual run on, and you don't need any complex entry points or complected this the underlying runtime. He's sticking growth setting up the container. He's such a weight. Netcom run. Almost any type of work that double run the machine. And who so seamlessly? Just to revisit the. COOBER netties question. If I run COOBER netties in an instance of nesty box. Isn't that kind of defeating the purpose like Coober netties. Wanted to be distributed thing where it's like vault tolerant and stuff. Why would I want this on a single box right? So There's two answers there. Certainly very useful for. Testing, scenarios. Right now. and. The reason is very useful in those things right now he's a people are looking as part of their no local testing as part of their CIC. The pipelines developers are looking for a way of deploying. So. Quickly deploying coordinative clusters inside of which they contest the particular application. And using containers. As a whale congratulating, those clusters. As opposed to using PM's. Or physical hardware. Using containers is a much better. Alternative. So. That's that's as far as tasting. But to the to the gist of your question as to why would I want to run his head of doesn't that defeat the purpose you know if you think about work on were coordinators currently runs right now he runs on virtual machines. If you go to the cloud. People random number. Metal. and. But putting that aside of their mental side, if you look at the typical software stack, it is the hardware, the virtual machines and then coordinators. Of that. But we're saying here is those virtual machines. You can replace him in many scenarios with. These containers. Again, what that allows you to do is split your underlying hardware into multiple virtual hose environments that just like we absolute. Now. When you want to put on deploy a cluster right? Even if he chunky pick on virtual machines difficult spread out across a number of physical. Servers. And the same thing can happen here. Right, you could deploy the coronaries closer inside of these. Virtual host environments backed by containers. And those containers spread out across multiple physical machines. And interconnected. That's a scenario that asked as technology matures and people start trusting more see that he can run almost like a vm buddies much more efficient. I think that over time people are going to start saying okay. Here's a very good alternative machine. And it can start running coronaries, workloads, and those all I wanNA call system containers there instead of the of the system containers and can spread trust across multiple physical machines as. I think I understand so. Today's world maybe I've got. Physical host with hyper visor in five different VM's on it and I've got three of those hyper visors hosts with hyper visor. And all of them are running. Each of those Vm's has an instance of Cougar Brin- in it, and they're just like you know I've got five cooper netties instances across these three vm's everything's fine. But if I was using nesty box, perhaps my utilization could be even higher because I wouldn't have the overhead of the end zone have the overhead of of Nasty just a container exactly, and that's very thin over. 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Gravity is trusted by leading companies including you'll soft spunk and Anaconda, you can go to gravitational dot com slash save daily to try gravity enterprise free for sixty days. That's gravitational. Dot Com slash s daily to find out how applications can run the way that your customers expect in their preferred data center. That's gravitational. Dot Com slash s daily. Thanks to the team behind gravity the company gravitational for being a sponsor of software engineering daily. Yes I think. That's the right I like to think of it as hey, you know whatever I have a vm, I can now use one of these containers alternative to replace. I'm not saying by the way that we can refuse. VM's all scenarios. PM's have a couple. avantage is that I can think of one of them is if you WANNA run. Different operating systems on the same machine you still need to mission. That container will not do that right now these containers developing our Lennox Song the until the underlying festival INEX-. Resigning their container is older. So that one advantage of The realtor multiple different operating systems. And the other one right. Now, at least is the VM's it can be argued to have a stronger isolation that what? One of these containers s so even though they're considered developing are more secure than a regular docker container. Comfort to vm's one can argue that vm's are still offer a higher level if isolation. Right because they carry a copy of the guest operating system vm hyper visor is at that virtual hardware level. and. That's a hard in the face breaking than with containers which share the underlying burning system. And the interface between contain on various Adele at the Lenox. System call level on a wider sort of affects service. So that's so if you have a multi tenant environment where you really need very very strong isolation, you know between all the different tenants, the ems. Broadly, the way to go right now. Where these are. Continuing developing are are more advantages are in scenarios where you don't need that such a strong will depend. Isolation and you really don't have a need to run to multiple operating systems was your all your sex Lennox. That case where offering a very compelling alternative to a virtual machine? That much more fishing he's here to probation. And Faster, deprivation? Anne horrible right it can we go across clouds Maurici than now? What are the? Why hasn't this been done before? New, that's a good question to be. A couple of companies have been working on something like this before there's a company called. Total, which the concept of containers that act like machines. And there's another company called canonical themselves make people do have a product code ethics the. which also has the concept of containers that language functions. So the of containers act like machines is not new who've been around for for many years. I mean said that nasty box. To the best of our knowledge is Duff I. To have into we naval docker and core needs to deploy containers that act like machines, both of these other tools that I mentioned. Are Not. Compatible with coronate he's. Being that they are different tool says they have different image formats. And I think honesty any spike Conqueror needs to deploy these vm like. Container. I I think he's really. In a good position to. Really enhance the usage of these type of container. It allows users to leverage the docker coronated cycle system. Is Nasty box open source. Prominent a lot since box he's hoping source. We are using what it's called him over and core model. Where we have on open source version. Pettis free unavailable gun on argue how people? Process books on the country you'll find her. And we have we we have an enterprise version of the pro, can which we layer on top of the open source, a set of? Closer, provide that features meant primarily for enterprise use cases. are features around hand security uncast efficiency, more robust testing. Next two bucks accord and that's what we're selling in the at the price version of the. Assist box is the container run time nesty boxes, the enterprise product. This is the company sees bookseller I brought up. And he has an open source version which we call his books community of these On the on the price version, which is assist box enterprise edition. The community edition is open source freely available. On. Get up. The Enterprise Asian he's uses the open source but layers on top of it. Closer proprietary features. You can use it. There's up for a thirty day free trial to use it. Nothing Doug we we enterprises to contact us. So that we to purchase. Talked about the Coober netties in docker example what about the docker in docker use case? That also a similar there couple from our use cases exceed to date for. One of them is again testing on JC right where people have the need as part of their CIC the biplane. Let, me back up a little CIC, the pipelines for testing environments in US containers a so as the unit of the job execution. Thanks for the job itself is Pakistan -tainer. But it is often the case that as part of that shop people want to either build containers or also run norger containers and so yeah, you end up with these dockery docker are no. and. Up to now, people have to resort to these various privileged containers. Bless. Some Aki. Things in order to make that work. With nasty box that goes away right the. Container that was as Randolph coincided with price relation. So, that testing has these CDs one example use case, but we're also seeing. People that want to use docker containers, US Lightweight development environments. As opposed to resorting to avert commission. So. We have a couple of customers for example that said, Hey, you know. The answer which would give to to each of our each of our developers. But I wish to replace those virtual machines with. This type of container because he'll be much more efficient way of doing now in these type of container, my developers when one of US Jessica if it was over to machine. And most likely because when I WANNA use docker. Container because they accept developers that are working with cloud applications. So that's an example again of the doctoring Bulker, right the outer Gawker serves. As a virtual host environment that's creative with box. And then the doctor has just docker that the developers using. To deploy 'cause locations. What other use cases are there for SIS box? Yes. So we've talked about testing says he talked about the development environment there's also a use case around legacy applications. As you know enterprise have mixed now of about eighty five locations and and still some older applications that are sort of Monolithic on our were designed to work for metal servers or virtual machines. Cease box by virtue of being capable of creating. Containers, that actually virtual machines in many ways? He's now capable of running many of these legacy applications, this monolithic applications, and that's very useful because it allows enterprises to migrate their legacy applications into cloud native frameworks, container based frameworks. Without the need of to break apart that application into micro services. You know where to have an education degree running number two machine. There's a highlight that that it will run. On one of these tackle containers with Douglas's books or coordinates muscles. And again, that allows you to. Bring that application to your cloudy frameworks without having. To react. So the legacy of his unimportant on use case. Now I think that technology mature style, right? On going back to what we said earlier. People are going to start thinking of it no longer justice, a testing tool or or even for legacy absolute moral. He can. I use this to replace might be might be a more on premise for example. Right because he gives us more efficient alternatives as I mentioned are trade with virtual machines. But we're even users. ICON BASED ALTERNATIVE TO IBM. So. I think that the mature people are going to say, okay maybe I can replace might be premise with with a combination of Lennox. Who are natives as the orchestrator docker their and Cisco classy container runtime runtime. Tell me that building sits box. About Building House work under the covers yes. Okay. Yeah. He works by using. Know always level virtualization on what that means. He's basically I way of creating container in which you fool the processes inside of the container to that they have their own apparently system when in reality action sharing. Very system right. And the way you know compared to a regular docker container six box really does quite a bit more inside integrates have more an meant obstruction of a container something that a lot resembles a lot more what what Obama Metal Server or vm would look to the processes inside of that contain. As I mentioned ideally, they wouldn't be able to tell the difference as to whether they're running one of these. Containers, that's his look crates or of the physical. Server. Now for folks who uses advanced or as we're twice, agent techniques may possible through vary recent changes the Lennox kernel. itself were liberty features. Jess showed up in the fight little. Colonel. and. At. A high level. These are features, for example, touch. Some level of trapping ceased goals. We do some very limited trapping Kohl's in particular Cisco that are in Control Baffler Asians. That, we need to do in order to maintain the obstruction of continuous animation dirtier. I want to say here that he geno for data path abbreviations we tried to stay away from from that because. One of the features of Sei's books he said he'd allows. were go through run with seemed performer Saturday will run on a regular docker container, which means almost bare metal performs. So again, we do some trapping, but on the limited control path abbreviations and not on operations and therefore we. We don't affect the performance of the container. We also those things like. Partially brutalizing part of the prophecy success. How system. For those people that are that are Lennox? Well, there's these slash programs slash Hilson in a bunch of resources that the colonel exposes to to process use her space. And when during satisfy container does systems are really not exposed. As completely as they are when you're inside of a VM or AFA. Bare Metal Server. Six books augment that those faucets them so that they can really expose a lot of more resources and spoke channels the fact that for container percents. The. Resources based for each of the system containers. Deployed on his I six channels know all of that name spacing. So, those are just a couple of techniques that were using. His his box in order to augment the obstruction of the container. Enabling to run these. System. That will workouts that imagine What are some of the benefits of SIS box that we haven't covered? Well. I think. We've covered the main ones right which is Has Security. Of Dover Container So even if you don't care about running things like docker coordinating inside of. Container. See, Fokker rating gives you a more secure container then your regular yogurt container. So. That's one thing. Number two is the ability to run. All of these other workers will run emergencies seamless new. With probation. And then you know. As an alternative to virtual machines where you're really using, you know the elect, we talk about the efficiency of theater is portability. The how quickly provision? It's really infrastructure as cold, right? Because the docker he's. The template for that container. And, of course, he could be incompatible with docker and reneges no really leverages that entire ecosystem of tools. You know for your audience that hasn't used books before launching a one of these containers simple with docker. For example, it's as simple as a DACA run blessing that little flak docker telling him to use his box and any container image of your choice, and that's A. Container that canal run. More secure and can outrun any type of work that would be running Today. Every answer matters more than ever before because whether it's about health deliveries or finance some things just can't wait. That's why IBM is helping businesses manage millions of calls, texts, and chats with Watson Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to help your customers, find the answers they need faster no matter the industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT COM Slash Watson Assistant to learn more. What's the project possible? Process of on boarding. With, his box, a coward I, get my application running in it. Oh It's pretty simple I mean to just go to our website or blog download binary forces box. Power, he started on your Lennox. Machine. is also not few seconds after that. You'll only thing into docker run. By a little flack dog indicating that you WANNA use books, other container run, and then use any image of your choice. That image canal by summation can include things like. DOCKER system the coordinator. More. And he'll run from the container I'm without any use of containers without any hacks around container entry points, none of that all of that kind of goes away. So He's a very quick time to value by the Colorado where the thank value for six books. Now, once you get familiar with it, then you WanNa stuck in your doctor images as leveraging the power with underlining runway by handles our bunker images that depending on your use case will include. Now, this is more complex these other suffered I mentioned above right with people not just. Being necessarily a single micro servers, but you can now create more of a vm like environment. He's had other container. You're GonNa Kussin me as a sage normal services. As you can docker they're all of that through a regular doctor file right by the way they structure within the doctor through startled though so far that I just mentioned he expect same way that you would install that type of software VM WERE IN UTAH. Or whenever Birmingham she. In. Other words, the power of the solution is that the underlying runtime he's taken care of creating thinner such. Randy's workloads seamlessly. is to the users. It gives them plenty of simplicity because they no longer have to do anything special container, right? They just get to use the software justice as if he were up the Maura Commission. What's your vision for the future of nasty box? That's a good question. That's where early company we were created in early twenty nineteen I'm we working on these for a year and a half off plus? We just open source the project last month. And things are moving right I mentioned all of the different use cases that we have around a high level might regional division of the founders by the way. Mike my Father's Rodney Marlena on myself though. The person was driving the direction of the company. A high level, our region was one of. Enabling enhancing container technology. So he can beyond just a deployment application micro services where no that are very good at that right there completed his rotten and improve the deployment of applications, but we felt that continue or no being used to their full potential. That they have by Hanson containers, you can create all of these new use cases for them. In fact, disrupt and improve the deployment of virtual infrastructure, and by that I mean virtual hosts, virtual networks, virtual storage, that type of thing that currently gets deployed in virtual machines type of Isis we felt that connected. Potential who go and disrupt all of that and improve it. and. If he spoke to sort of the first step in that direction, we feel that cease books as a catalyst. To enable lunch of news cases around containers and that these will open. Again. The possibility for developing more tools around now, they're they use cases that we are named for containers. So the overall vision at a high level, his expand the use cases for containers. In particular twice disrupting the deployment of virtual infrastructure. But not necessarily right just expanded use cases for container. Across the spectrum and like I, said CIC D has typical use case doesn't remains Sheen's maybe in the future the reconversion this topic containers on the cloud. So these are things that we're thinking currently about. It's a big vision. How is the Kuban Eddie's community reacting to it? Well. I think you know I haven't. Got Much budget it because we just opens the product when we were developing bargaining was closed source you know we were just with my. Co founder working on the code stuff noah. And I think the few people in the community. Did Not react well to the fact that it was close source right so. Once we decided to open source. We've got more favorable response although no one other times that we sniffing Balkans he's trying to get the word out not hey. How dare is artful. And so. From the few people that have immigrants from you didn't have talked to us in general, they seem very receptive to idea contender runtime that announcing, it will continue to do more things. They tried to do any particular that he can bring the security of containers. Again I think we are giving coordinators in order communities to hance these cases containers. Were partners to. Were no competing with any way on their partners to us we're trying to replace coordinators dog at all, which is given these tools. Are More. Powerful container. And in doing so he nearly more use cases for these diesels. Coordinated. For example, was developed to deploy an orchestrated application containers. By these type of data recreating can now deploy vm like containers. With. Proper security. and. That means that now as can become orchestrate on vm containers on those. Wanted half a different set of properties that application containers do. I'm. Will work with community to save these direction that. That we can help to expand coordinating into. Are Native could be replacing what hyper visor thus type of Isis happened orchestrator hosmer. APU orchestrate vm's across multiple physical servers, for example. He reneges now. We can help move nether action. Also. Within, the coordinated a much more powerful that what couples. This regard De. Imagine Data Center operators picking up. Sis Box and using it to. Like these these. Kinds of places that that run like Amazon Amazon to run. You know ucs and you know all these different containerized run times, Aws Lambda I mean I, guess they have firecracker. Guess a reasonable question would be why how does nasty box compared to? Assist box compared to firecracker, right? Yeah I think the main difference being that firecrackers really a vm underneath I. It's sort of a vm that has been optimized run continue very lightweight on a fairly fast who. Still. VM's we still have proviso stillness against ways right? Although it closes that gap as far as efficiencies between the zone contain. We're sort of. SAFEBOX still all. Pure oyster collision. There's no beaming picture, which means there's an anxiety advisor guest over charter. Before. So I still see smoke still something that is more efficient than than than hiker but I think the. Question, is you know, would you see you know cloud operators are Chumpol? Box as a way of. Splitting their physical servers into multiple virgils environment in which they can run now these other container world. And I think that the is right right now is there because the isolation requirements in those multiple environments and the isolation requirements right now make it so that. You know you have to have very strong exclamation with intended tenants and I think that's where the cornea Brownie best who great ethical Faisal nation. After the matures still as container technology matures as well as the Lennox colonel matures eating limitation of spaces to further isolate. Processing different containers on me spaces at the colonel level. I think that's security grappa garbage going to start closing also. Right, on I think at some point, there may be appointing the future would say, yeah, I don't necessarily need to do. Just with with that containers. In the meantime. Until we until we get there. I do think that people that have on environment, for example. Where be plenty of VM's? Air Single Country I. For those type of people idea paraders those type of environments could then look at these containers valid alternative to because then the isolation is important. But they don't necessarily. vm like isolation Dixie do with the. Type of containers that I just described. And they're going to get all of the efficiencies and agility and portability of of the container. One of the things that I'm excited about when I that I like about these containers I mentioned earlier is that they're very portable right when. On Amazon his tack on Amazon aws I probably have google. Google. Jacuzzi if I deploy up. On promises stuck. To. The point. And I think these containers. The run me of the workloads that are much more portable than VM's. Righty we can run whatever is finding. So I can run him on my laptop Mullenix apt greater money on MIT. Brand or I can run it on. VN. In the cowboys owner WMSR X. Rays very severe portable. Thing, and by the way, there are a great for rich also. His own environments or not. These are hardware constrained environments. With machines that are not as powerful as machines that you having your centralized server. Centers and therefore these type of. Probably a better fit to running those environments that say Vm's which are more recent time. So hope that question as to like I said in the near future I don't yet see these type of unique, very stumble tendency. What were you need to run mix voice or says, but I do see them over time us the `isolation increases. And in the meantime, I do see them being used in single Phantom Ireland's. Should we explore about this box? One of the you know nifty features study has he's that. By virtue of using docker image no us the template. I. Suppose to event, which is in some sort of the rankled Amazon. Amateur. Buddies vm image. These continues Dockery Mitchell Dockery Mitch many ways is easier to deal with him on more powerful than he's here to to create docker file. So. That's An advantage in general the fact that we use docker the press as a template for for these containers. But we also for examples his books I love you too. Inside of the system containers you know you've made, could you run? As, I mentioned before the talker and they coordinate these. And if you're running on eighty inside at one of these containers Dan, you're going to want half inner containers that saddled right. One of the features that seems well ties and allows great outer container the system container you can create an image that comes pre loaded with inner pods or inner container images of your choice. So that, you deploy that. Outer Container. And you're running inside of it docker no longer needs to pool from the network those continuing Logistic Council debate team. Who The outer Container. So that's. Is Very helpful particularly during over gapped environments not but even without her got combats very useful because it saves you a lot of time downloading images from from the network. Just. Not Wants Greater Your Outer Image and deployed dot com don't long after. All Donald Images. and. Then, of course, the speed of provisioning, right? You know he is so fast provisioning. For example, I, can deploy on my laptop, my laptop, which is. not, powerful unit has forced us on sixteen gigs of Ram. On that laptop I can provision. Ten node. Grenades custer. Using these containers he under two minutes. And as I mentioned, you know all of these containers are properly isolated they run. Seem. So he's very powerful that way if I were to use the same. I don't think I could deploy. Could probably run at most brutal the on his laptop. Without inconceivable. You. See. Opportunities for client side a containerization lot more clients containerization. For developers have the have not need to local testing for trump who is a very good thing. But as I mentioned, there's no just full about things also foresees. Pipelines Right now, another thing that we have in mind I'm Michael Funders is really fond of these ideas. Could these type of container be used to give the developers? SORT. Of A development environment right or users in general this black environment, a virtual desktop environment. That is really entirely inside of a container. We're to have entirely inside of the container. Can then move he easy across machines. So for example, if I were to. Have my laptop and I helped my whole development environment set up right here. Let's say I buy a new. Right All, I rent a vm from cloud. Could I use one of these containers provisions that environment? In seconds I suppose to having to reconfigure that you machine. I think that's very powerful. Use case who doesn't just apply to software engineers in place to in general, right the capturing. Of An entire. User Space Environment these had container on the ability to deploy that. On any machine in seconds? You know there's your environment. Yes. I. Left It. I mean I think that's so powerful. All right. Well, that's a great place to close off teaser. Thanks for the talking think Jeff I appreciate all of the sites will questions hand thinking for degradation were here anything?

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Anne Ortelee's April 5, 2020 Weekly Weather

Anne Ortelee Weekly Weather Astrology

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Anne Ortelee's April 5, 2020 Weekly Weather

"Love Radio Hi. Everybody walk into an or at least weekly weather. My name is or Lee. I'm an astrologer here at the break. Red Desk Broadcasting on this beautiful Sunday April Fifth Twenty Twenty The Sun has gone down but earlier today. It was just beaming in through my windows making my little spider plant in my new jade plant. Very happy And so here we sit. As Jupiter and Pluto met up last week was of course a pretty big week for all of us a lot of planetary activity where initiation energies were taking place mercury coming to Neptune Making. Everybody Very Emotional. Perhaps a little paranoid on a bad day. Mars hitting Saturn saying were initiating a new two year structure around things and that did see us close some More of the government's closed down more and more states. Florida closed Georgia closed and then of course Jupiter Pluto The Jupiter Pluto. One is the one. We're really watching for two reasons. We're watching to see if Italy's death toll starts to drop right. 'cause Jupiter is big pook. There was deaf. Jupiter Big Pluto is transformation. You know did use the words as you will but you know. I'm going with the big death one. We've actually had trump say you know this is. GonNa be a bad couple of weeks yeah it is and so our job with this is to go okay And they're actually saying you know. Hey don't go out at all for two weeks. Don't go grocery shopping. Don't do any of this stuff. Just sit in your house so our job with this is to recognize with mercury still and Pisces until the weekend when he goes into areas. Mercury goes into areas this week on. Let me look at my little chart here on April eleventh when he goes into areas. Then we get a clarity but we while Mercury's Pisces. He really is invisible and he's traveling and he's moving and he's sharing things right. So murky and Pisces is very amorphous. We don't really see it but it's very infectious Pisces. As an infection sign so our job with this is to know that the infection energies very high. Now what do I mean by infection? Yeah right the virus that's running but also that we're all very susceptible to emotional infection and by that I mean fear that meanings -iety by that I mean paranoia negative signs of Pisces. We also can be infected by the positive signs happiness joy understanding that this is a spiritual meditative moment as people on Earth we all seek meaning we all seek understanding we all seek attempting to understand what the world is doing and why what is our place in it as conscious sentient beings. We understand that we can die. We understand that we can. We understand that you know. That's a conscious component of our. Our being is the consciousness of this. Can this can happen and with that in mind with all these people running around afraid afraid. Afraid it's really important and I have to say you know I. You know I do this work. You know here at my little bright red desk And I talked to a lot of people every day and so talking to people a lot of people this week. Had you know social media meltdown where they went? I just couldn't watch anymore. I I see I had to turn it off. It was too much. It was overwhelming. I was feeling like it was taking me over. It was sweeping me away. Feeling swamped any words. You can use with water swamped overflown. We literally had you know. A Kennedy Family Daughter and grandson die One of Robert Kennedy's I guess granddaughters and her daughter Her son great grandson and Literally swamped in the water. You know carried away looking in canoe going out after a ball that was getting carried away and they're dead so we do want to watch you know literally the heavens as they show us the energy of swamping and fluid lots of fluid water murky mercury. Mercury water right. So it's our understanding with this mercury and Pisces until the eleventh. We are going to really feel a lot of fluid a lot of emotion. A LOT OF WATER. A lot of overflowing of course. That's pneumonia right. Watery you know. This is a this is a This is the virus that does lungs with fluid. So we want to kind of honor this deep emotional feeling and we also want to be really conscious of what we hang out with energetically you know putting on music putting on things that you find inspirational. I know I've been playing my piano more. I've been doing meditation more. I attended a meditation earlier today. Which was one of the things she said which that was really beautiful was remembered. Love both good and the bad you know. Just send it the love like sit in the heart space. Put Your hands across your heart and say I'm okay. I'm okay like cross your hands. Put Him on your heart chocolate and say I'm okay. I'm here I'm here because we need to ground ourselves. We need to really work with this energy in a grounding way so we don't feel swept away now I will say Jupiter Pluto Jupiter's you know they. They've all been charged up by Mars and Jupiter coming to Pluto happens once every twelve years. Thirteen years last time we have. This was when Bernie made off made off with the money right. Remember that that was dissension. Doesn't feel like long ago. But that was December of two thousand seven and then we went into January January of two thousand eight right and we got bumped down to Earth and that was Jupiter Pluto and cap and that was the beginning of the financial collapse right so now here. We are in the Next chapter of that financial adjustment when we said. Hey we're too big to fail or some people did and a lot of us had problems you know financially with their houses and whatever now we have chapter two and so people are really stressing and worried about money and and all those things and how they're going to do it and with the water swirling around the emotional energy swirling around. It's really important to put your hands on your heart in ground yourself The healthcare workers feeling over overwhelmed of the hospitals getting swamped flow the beginning of this. Well the beginning of Thing I saw some map where they had little waves on each of the cities that were epicenters across the country. Put your hand on your heart. Ground yourself you're floating remember when you're in a riptide you don't struggle against the tide you let the current carry you until the current ways stops and then you you swim. They actually recommend you swim sideways from the current but most people struggle back into shore struggling back into shore doesn't get you there right but pulling you know riding the current until it drops off and then it releases you from its captivity real important you know to just recognize. We're in the current we're in the flow. We're GONNA be okay as long as we don't panic as long as we ground as long as we say. Okay you know be here now. I'm here now. Put Your hands across them in your hands. Put them on your heart ground yourself. Take a couple of deep breaths and say okay. I'm alright I'm alright. But this water swelling with mercury and the last degree a pisces. This week very big very important. And as the Jupiter Pluto moves forward right. 'cause he's GonNa Jupiter include are GONNA move forward. And then they're gonNA THEY'RE GONNA station a couple of weeks And start to go backwards as we head into capricorn time earn tourist time but we want to honor that we're going to really feel very emotionally Overwhelmed with this energy and that's okay that's okay that's part of the transformation. The analogy a couple of weeks ago of US being little caterpillars in You know the the string coming out of our but making a cocoon and then we're GonNa get all black and mushy and then we're gonNA hatch. I'm GONNA have wings and we're GONNA fly around. Yeah that's all well and good but that little caterpillar. You know when you say to him. You know you're going to get all black and mushy and then you're GonNa metamorphasized into a butterfly. You know it's like that my reality is this leaf. You know my reality. Is this leave. I don't want I don't want to go to a metamorphosis right now my idea of fun. Time no metamorphosis for me thank you very much and yeah you know. It's okay to be reluctant or anxious or nervous or overwhelmed and to realize that the energy this week is it heightens as the sun starts to go through the square because the sun is now at sixteen aries and he is going to go through and he's GonNa not so much this week. He's going to build it up this week and then next week he really squares the stuff so this week the buildup but next week as the sun goes through the capricorn plants. We're really going to see it right so our job this week and this is also very helpful. You know if we remember a couple of weeks ago when I said hey you know. Venus is going to go through these planets. We're going to have to pay attention to what goes on now because we're going to find out where we're going to be dealing with all summer. Right remember. They said that he feels like it was just like years ago but it wasn't that long ago and Venus of course it's you know rules interest to tourists and Venus. Rules Italy. She's a tourist country as its main so the sun now is going go through there right so the sun is going to go through these capricorn planets over the next two weeks. So we'RE GONNA see we're going to see a lot of things and what we're going to deal with once we see all this stuff. What we need to know. Is that come summer when Mars goes through these planets three times? We're going to be working with us. Energy variant Tunceli Right. So this is your week to be conscious. Sun Comes and squares the Saturn. Come in squares. You know comes first to square the air at the end of the week on the thirteenth and then next week it squares the Saturn Ludo. It's you know it's great as the Jupiter so this is a build up week remember in as the planet's lean in the things we kind of feel the amping be amping of the energy so this is our week to get ready but also to look at what we're going to be working with going forward right this is. This is a a multi phased process. We had Venus. Go through it. We have the son going through it. Now we're going to have mercury going through it as of next week when he goes into areas and then all summer long June end of June July August September October November December. We're doing it. We're getting it on working at. We're doing this energy. And when Mars stations to go retrograde September nine through November thirteenth. We're going to go back through it again and then we're going to throw it again. This is a long journey and this week. We're going to see it. You're GONNA this week and next week. You're going to see what's going to happen so it's really important. You Know Sunan areas makes us very conscious makes it's it's considered exalted right because it helps us see things and we see it very realistically which is really important but we also have to be really really kind ourselves because the mercury in. Pisces can make us panic can make us feel very anxious and then once mercury comes down. Pisces cries a lot. Once mercury comes down and gets into areas it gets very clear and very sharp and very focused and very on it. The good news is Mars Aquarius. There's a dispassionate component to this but it's an understanding of consequences and understanding of consequences of action and also to a certain extent because Mars is also going to square uranus an element of chaos. So we a big week ahead of us and we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about. I mean the good news is the moons are in grounding signs the munising Capri isn't virgo. Today it's to be in Libra We have a full moon in. Libra Moonen Libra Squares squares to Jupiter. Lots of moon. Libra Sunan. Aries right. We really see the fullness of it and then we go out of the Lieber into Scorpio which is of course transformation death and rebirth and then we go into sandwich so this is a big week and I really want you to really focus on your own personal self care. I want you to look at your moon and figure out how your moon can take care of you. I want you to look at all the planets that you have that are under ten years ten degrees and understand those little planets need you to be comforting them now. Whatever their sign is whatever their reas. That's how old they are. And when you're you know you got a four year old Mars. That's kicking up. You WanNa go okay Mars. You're kicking up the look at things that Mars likes to do. The other thing is really paying attention to where you're Saturn is by sign and by House. My Saturn is in the eighth house in Scorpio. So I know my job is to talk to clients about the fear about the anxiety about the worries about money. Scorpio Dat Scorpio Death Scorpio. I mean I have people calling me and saying am I going to die during this. I know that's my job my job and somebody said to me earlier today. Thank you for your new astrology stuff. I'm like well I can't. I'm not a medical doctor. I can't fight. I can't fight the corona virus but I can give my I give my astrology. I can say here's astrology and let astrology help you and guide you and you know it is a little bit like you know. Sometimes it's a little bit like a rain rain shower. You know he's GonNa rain. You carry the umbrella And so this week is going to be very emotional for folks and it's okay you know just no. It's really emotional. What will happen when we get to? The fourteenth is Mercury will shift into aries and then it will get mad right so we're going to go very emotional and we're going to get into anger and that's okay. Remember are five stages of grief and denial and bargaining and acceptance and anger right so our our journey. This week is to really be kind to ourselves and our journey. This week is to recognize. We're all in this together. Different levels of of responsibility enrolls depending on you know if we're a first responder and we're out there. I mean I got up yesterday and they said they know there's four thousand ambulance drivers New York. A thousand of them are out with the virus. And I'm like wow quarter of the force that picks us up and takes us to the hospital. If we're sick is out the police officers out you know the You know there's people cleaning the hospital right. They're not just the nurses and doctors in there but there's cleaning staff in their cleaning the hospitals right so the bus drivers the subway drivers out right out sick it be eighty percent of us live through it which is great but twenty percent of us have a big journey and so our job with this is to really honor and honor and honor and honor honor with our love. Honor with our hearts love. The good love the bad understand it as a culture as a world. We are literally going through this story. We are going through the story together. And we're GONNA be okay. Our job is to go through it. Our job is to understand the metamorphosis for us and to Recognize that part of our job on earth because we are in Karnataka. Now we're here to somehow help participate work with transform. You know if you're a musician make music. If you're an accountant do bookkeeping. If you're you know if you're an astrologer do astrology. If you're Tarot teacher teach Tarot Obviously the palmist aren't going to be able to read palms while maybe they can through zoom but like understood if you're a meditative teacher teach meditation if you're a Cook Cook like what is your purpose. Why are you here? This is when we need all hands on deck to help us and we also need to with Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn and Jupiter. We have to look at our authorities and we have to look at them when they are When they are doing a good job and say thank you and we have to look at them when they're doing a bad guy bad job and say you know that's not a really good job so you know depending on how you feel about it. The soldier who said my people are dying on this boat. I want them off the boat. Can you help me get them off the boat and got fired for saying that captain who got fired for saying that when he got off the boat has mental cheered them off they cheered them off that gangplank and they said you know what happens in times like crisis in times of war. This is a time of war. We learned who the good leaders are. The bed leaders are and you need to be thinking. Is this a good leader? Who's leading you in a good way into a good space or is this a crazy s leader? Who doesn't know what the hell they're doing and leading you into a bad place which means you need to take care of yourself. This is where consciousness is very important with the funding aries squaring those Saturn plants those those planets in Capricorn. It's very important for all of us to be as conscious as we possibly can. The nice part about eary's is he's exalted the Son's Exalted when he's an area so we really get to see it. The bad part is we really get to see it and we go. You know I kind of wish. I didn't say there was an old carly Simon Song sometimes. I wish I didn't know those secrets of yours. We make it on the other end of this next couple of weeks and go you know. I wish I didn't know those secrets. But it's really important for us to look. It's really important for us to see it to see it in our own lives to see it in the lives of the world around us and to recognize. We're each year to help each other and we have to kind of figure out what that looks like and and your best job is by signing by house placement. Do Your Saturn Saturn is asking us to do. He is saying. Do Your Saturn doing in a new way to do it in a different way doing it in a way that helps the collective because I've gone into the sign of the collective. How do I organize and work as a team as a group as a collaborative energy? You know here. Metaphorically were watching governor. Cuomo say hey all. The hospitals are in this together. Aquarius right and our job is to work together because that will be how we get through it. That is the best way and we help each other as we go through it. And you're GONNA be okay. I'm going to be okay. Some people aren't going to be okay and it's you know when that happens. We we pray for them. We Love Them. We bless them. We thank them and we support them as best we can. Because that's how we that's how we get through this. That's how we survived this and and we get to the other side that metamorphosis when we hatch and our wings dry and we can go fly and eat the pollen right so that no let's do the aspects because let me tell you it's going to be a rock and roll in week and I say that with a bit of trepidation so today the moons and Virgo Palm. Sunday is holy week for many cultures. It's Po- it's Passover. It's Easter It's GonNa be Ramadan. I believe too. I think there's a few. There's a few in there. The Orthodox Easter is happening We have Good Friday coming up on Friday the tenth We have a lot of energy around this. No I was raised Catholic And Went to went to church with the pope this morning because he did mass out of Out of the Vatican You know whatever gets you through the day right so today is palm Sunday. The Moon's Virgo. The theft goes void tomorrow morning. At nine these are all east. Coast Times goes void at nine twenty nine tomorrow morning with eight lovely little trying to Venus. I'm sorry not with Venus. A lovely little trying to Jupiter. The Moon is void all day tomorrow from nine twenty nine to five sixteen pm when the moon goes into libra and libra tomorrow night. It's Lebron on Tuesday Monday Tuesday the sevens and there's a full moon there at ten thirty five PM which we'll talk about it. In a second and then it goes void on Wednesday. The eighth at eight fifty. Am then there's a long void moon all day long on Wednesday until the moon goes into Scorpio at four seventeen PM? The moon goes void in libra with a square to Jupiter. That's lots of and of course fo moons you know. Make everything bigger. Make everything wider. Make everything longer stronger taller. Police officers always stack up. The bus drivers know in the full moons are and the hospitals. Prepare for more excitement. This is a full moon in libra. Sign of air and in Mars. The sign of war. Okay so or aries sign of war. So there's going to be a big full moon This brie right right. Bree Wednesday night The Wednesday afternoon at four. Seventeen goes into Scorpio. Passover starts on sundown that night. It is in Scorpio on the ninth. It is in Scorpio on the tenth and it goes void at three thirty five PM with trying to Mercury Moon in Scorpio trying mercury and Pisces. That's going to be the really infectious day. I do suggest that that might be a good day to give yourself a media break. I mean if you can you know if you if you're in a position to do that because that's going to be very overwhelming news of Scorpio. Nature Right Scorpio is transformation. It's also Departures then the moon is void for just an hour on Friday afternoon and it goes at four thirty five pm into sage which is lots of Jupiter Capricorn just met Pluto. Lots of Good Friday so on Friday night. It's insanity on Saturday the eleventh. It's An said on Sunday. The twelfth and it goes void at seven forty six. Am with trying to the sun. Sun inside trying to the sun in. Aries moved into trying to the seminaries. The moon is then void all day the twelve and it goes in it's Easter Sunday. It goes into Capricorn at eight. Oh Five. Pm and it's in Capricorn. The twelfth the thirteenth the fourteenth and it goes void with a conjunction to Jupiter mooning Capricorn Junk Jupiter lots of at seven forty seven pm on Tuesday the fourteenth so this is you know virgo. Libra partnering Scorpio. Transformation Death Sagittarius. Lots of mercury goes into sage on Friday and Saturday the eleventh at twelve forty eight. Am after having spent a little time in here in Pisces. And you know when he does do that shift. We're going to really feel him. Get a lot more assertive. Because he's an aries. He's more assertive. The other highlight this week. Is Mars squaring Uranus which happens on On Saturday on Tuesday rather the seven so Mars and Aquarius Squares Uranus which is sudden unexpected. And then we also have mercury at the last degrees of Pisces on Tuesday In the evening at five. Twenty eight at ten twenty. And that's when he's textiles both Jupiter and Pluto right I e sex styles Pluto at five twenty eight and then he's sex tells Jupiter Mercury coming in and water to sex tile the big earth planets that are causing a lot of the transformations that were experiencing. We know that Tuesday's GonNa be kind of a hard day. Then we get into The back end of the week and the really intense days this week or Monday and Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday Friday and Saturday and then next Sunday we rest okay. So just know. It's Kinda weak. I mean I I was trying to look for a good day. But they're all going to be intense so we're going to be okay but we're going to be you know we gotta go through it and the only way we go through it is to go through it so the sun this week is running from nineteen aries through Through twenty four aries. Okay so remember next week he gets to capricorn this week. He's getting ready. He's not there yet. Getting TO SQUARE THOSE CAPRICORN PLANTS. So this week. He's got a semi sex style to Venus on the On the eighth and the sun is really just busy. Go go go go sun in Aries. Go answering to the Mars and Aquarius Gogo Marsden Aquarius. Of course it's air sign. Go go go go mercury this week very busy. He's running from twenty three twenty two twenty three Pisces. Through two degrees varies And he has a lot of aspects of this week to the planets in the sky you know kind of kicking them up into a new place sex tells pluto now remember. This is a working aspect. But he's an ocean sex telling Earth oceans sex telling the body water six telling the body That's April seventh. Big Big days hard aspect to series hard aspect to Athena April eighth this energy kind of flowing in so he's got the sex though the Pluto he's got the sex teller Jupiter's got the sex. Tell to Athena he's gotTa Quindici lead to Which is a health aspect to Juno? How PARTNER WITH PEOPLE? He's got a sex said. Nah which is the ocean. Very big in tourists Then he goes into areas on the eleventh and then he has a sex style to Saturn and then he has a square to the nodes fate next week on the twelfth on Sunday the Twelfth Easter Sunday where we look at this. We look at the choices and zero areas. We have a cognizant awareness then Venus this week and the reason I'm really focusing on mercury is because of him being his detriment in Pisces. Because in Pisces he doesn't have the consciousness he just has. The which is why. It's so important to care for your feelings this week Venus week goes from one Gemini. I two seven Gemini. She has a hard aspect of the note. A fate on Monday. The sixth remember. She's in gem nine so she's answering to mercury and Pisces Giving her extra water extra feelings extra motion and she's young. She's one she's two she's three. She's five so our Venus natures or in a very young space in the sign of air read remember to breathe. She has a sex tyron on the tenth. Which is the weekend Which is Friday So she's not really helping us. She's answering to that Mercury in water. Mars this week He isn't Aquarius. He runs from four. Aquarius two eight Aquarius and he has a square uranus and a parallel to Saturn Parallel saddened on the seventh. He's in the semi square to Neptune. Mars Siamese Square Neptune. I think about that the ocean coming in courses and Pisces. Mars is an Aquarius. So it's kind of like if you're on those boats. Have you ever been on a boat anchored like out your whale-watching or something and you see the waves coming into Boca's up? Then the Bokram down vote goes up goes down. That's smart this week He has a squareness on the seventh which isn't eruption right and that that happens at five degrees again. Young these planets are young so one of the reasons we have so many moons this month. This this week is because Saturn's now and Aquarius in early sign. Mars is in Aquarius. An early sign so we don't have aspects but that also means the planets are young that they don't have a lot of consciousness because they're baby baby energies in a new sign So Mars has a sex towel to Chiron and the eighth which is an exhaustion energy And then he has. has a parallel to series on the eleven Jupiter this week is in Capricorn Semi sex towel to series a lot of time series is active transitions and Neptune is contra parallel Chiron Neptune in Pisces contrary parallel Piran in areas. That there isn't anything we can do to help. This wound digs up. Go through it. Pluto is Semi Sex Delta series also So those kind of give us a stronger energy around. You know how we work with this so as we go through the ahead and we we understand that. This is unnecessary. Unfortunately unnecessary part of our evolution is a species of humans. It's really important for us to be as kind as possible and as aware as possible and to take as much good care of ourselves as we can while we go through this. This is our. This is our opportunity to help ourselves help the people that we love. You know checking on your folks that are having a harder time Honoring Love People Honoring. Love the people in your life honor in love and care for the people that you know. Need your support And do what you can do your Saturn your center and by signing my house. I'm an astrologer I'm doing my Saturn. It's in Scorpio in the eighth house. I can help people this. I can do this. I can do this Do better that's what we can do. That's how we get through this the best way possible and maybe throw in your Pluto and your Jupiter to oh I know I ended the last minute here like what what what did you say. Remember there altogether. The guys are together so they're inviting us to work together. Jupiter Saturn and Pluto. How can we transcend? How can we do this? We can do this. We're GONNA be okay. We just have to get to the other side and go play that song. There's got to be a morning after when she when she sings it. The siding adventure really. Don't go watch the movies. Listen to the song. 'cause we're all going to be the poseidon adventure this week and if that helps you know. I mean a lot of people survived the fighting adventure And people survived the titanic. We're GONNA make it. We're GONNA be okay we are. It's just a little scary right now so sending you a lot of love from the bright red desk from Maximo my My cohorts here and wishing you A blessed journey on this sale and remember Pray Breathe listen to your do your Neptune to your higher Neptune. Do the Neptune. That's inspirational to you. That really understands the deep connection that we all have to this wide beautiful wonderful world that we live in and Sending you a lot of love here from the right read desk and wishing you a good journey through the week in or at least signing off. Take care and a big hug. Virtually in person when I see you again but virtually from right now take care bye bye.

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Our First Out-of-Body Experience

Astral Projection Podcast

33:45 min | 1 year ago

Our First Out-of-Body Experience

"Welcome to the astral projection salt congestion question brought to you by one and welcome to the astral through projection podcast alley. I would like to present the first part of a meet up with mike wayne. Jew in australia and jury savitsky isky in malaysia. Michael has a facebook group called michael angel true sika aunties website is michael angel truth seeker dot com. You're a facebook. Group is called lucidity for all and the website is lucidity for all dot com. The four is a number not a letter. Okay <hes> moving in this first part. We talk about our first output experience. I hope you enjoy it and we're live beaming from australia australia italy and malaysia today all once. We've got a a will team. That's going to shake some wonderful information on our very first experiences. Now we've got uri's risky of course from the lucidity for all group out of malaysia which is like worldwide so how many members and look pleasure to also introduce allie wylie from and allie actually have a huge <unk> out of body experience feis book group <hes> s the estra prediction out of body experiences <hes> page so this is going to be not a wonderful exploration of our very first o._b. Experiences an how that has affected <hes> you know allies moving forward so without further ado welcome both of these wonderful experts on the onto the screen to join me welcomed always how i we're fine. Great to begin is good to talk without eat bokram rival while malaysia almost idea is distilling incredible internet indecency size because i thought my other buddy experiencing none of as if searching you not anytime bookshop sir charles m. yeah thanks to be here so i think what we'll do is i think we'll we'll start with allie and then across to yuri so elliott. Tell us a little bit about the lead up into your very oviedo <hes> when it was where you were in your life and then we'll we'll take it from there. The question i started out with waugh's who i'm on that was started out with. I think sauce out with a desire to our map would experience <hes> not even to britain my the gym was i wanted to describe on the real. Adding one was asking to take me side which stop he wants now. Maybe stop with you <hes> so i stopped my dreams so i i started to write down every morning. Everything dream. I have however been a student at the time <hes> sensations event and remained more about note your jaw. Maybe <unk> exciting. He's nine <unk>. It was one of those teachers ma-ma-madonna salty standard corridor with a coffee chat stores students so he started in my dreams and when i need it can use it. We started to live out a growth. I need to do my life to be bowl because when i had the james mccain the candidates so i started doing techniques to three rather than outward experiences this is i didn't consider the ready what experience because with the wedding to go into banja anyway. I started my morning. James and i was doing techniques to lose dream which basically similar to the techniques that you might use stay experience so i was doing a traunstein wait. While i went to sleep techni i was looking at my has joined the day the jets and i was doing this for about three months and how you james with my beloved institute which i now believe with a manifestation is sal <hes> who's trying to help me in my audible and discover who i am anyway said stores show <unk>. Jim set at john wall nights. <hes> let me ben mohammed was snoring. My husband is was academy. Statue in my antibody experiences snow i would chant bedroom and and so that automatically what we are to move into another room to save is often the body the technique the. I didn't even realize it's north anyway. As long as they're sti- wait i went to st contention or coming trim attention but not our experience as a tried many many times eyesight way as you should go stock focus tradition. You know you tend to other knife. You're tired edgy tense tune into all things dribbles anyway. It was in my felt myself. Go down and down and down much myself in lift feeding down down down as soon as the balsam and it was wonderful to get rations rations it. Wouldn't you rather easy sensation us. Nationals of being in colour is did you do there. Then suddenly found uploading barranco what the experience humbly bit trying to stay calm and i tried to move towards window and it was big us assan out in offshore announcement so i never actually built through the again i think young two of them and then i love the snow and the free need to spy reading experience. It was a simple experience. Offset is one of my best is it was is it gave me such join any warning and two thousand knits legroom. I tell the trump to my life who are experienced so you did not so they seem bowl so wonderful and then i'll okay about three days would be my face and it was. I wasn't happy just a nice dream. You knew that so that the inside all i'm trying to look out about the how what experiences different <unk> did want to lose the scale. I didn't want to be just wall zone but was renamed to continue collecting said that it would only happened once so i really like three months. <unk> found as much information is also good. I found i around with william woman's <hes> adventures beyond the ball deep the first good book at but it was the time story as in the david amazon is now sata assaulted being mad at some commit we can twitting the seminoles saliva on a seminar which is just may be to these experiences c._b._s. Is the more you talk about. He's experienced as the movie meet about experienced <unk> taps on program mm-hmm. Let off really thought i had the midday. Sometimes less more depends on what's happening in my life. That was my experience. My apple snows invites. You wonderful yeary. Share with us your first experience. I have just wants no question so during that first first-time <unk> a truck into one small detail in your in your story is that you said that you win back enforced from the window to the body three times that was on your first experience yeah it was. They all seem very natural. They may heavy wind wasn't afraid will i wasn't to shop also an hot ac body experiences before his annual happening so on the first so you came out again then back to the body and then continued with the feeding feeding of coca cola singing the than your go out again to the window something by the by the coca cola well again going back to your lucky three three thousand zero back and forth back and forth market for earth many people orca to lock you up to on the first time a yes i well what's interesting being the feeding as well. Maybe that's why it's on the joint experience and i was shocked because many of us on in holland rations. I didn't have any food vegans michio. The kid mine mine was like the <hes> so i was very lucky to come across across the <hes> the first writings off <hes> michael rodney go on through today. I'm i'm still the following him until today <hes> after after i since rule many different things unto today a full on ibaz awesome <unk> dictates to to the job he performed six at trump was like this. I <hes> came across his book. It was a joy to them to <hes> almost heathen up by <hes> in the in the forest of internet at that time <hes> and the we doesn't the <unk> so i read the book <unk>. I was very lucky. <hes> within the i think three to five don't have the the exact memory but it was within one week i had i had my first expedience and the story does not really important but it's a fun is kind of fun story and i remember i was reading in parallel colorado's costano of course in the las michael luca so these you guys were coupled together. Carlos didn't produce something will meet <hes> but around good data so i was employing one of these i think needs some induction he he he ready to nicely in a nicer gory origin that damore quite sometime ago so mine started the was not the transition from the body. There's those most of <unk> abrasion muffing alta via done nothing with uh-huh it was it was me brock to see a complete blackout and then if somebody's speech on july <hes> slowly mcbrayer <unk> everything came women focus on i remember i was in front of it was still kind of blurry <hes> environment than i see i see an apple on the kind final table a window or something like these was not seeing what's around and i know that i am standing <unk> though win the in waking reality that and that was a big smack on my face because i dot dot realization nation just smack my face was i was. I was <hes> floated by the emotion of the by the enormity of the of the expedience so stupid thing just netball on the table it doesn't sound amazing but the real realization for the first time me being aware lucid emend environment which is not the wake instate bam on my face so dot that was already <unk> emotionally emotionally triggered but that will i was locking. This emotional didn't wake me up so then then so they just may maybe more interesting than also look around complete darkness. <hes> i come out soy for the door amount from the from from the house so i i didn't pay attention. The door had not leaks. I was surprised by the by the by cubans of this so i just found the door. Come among the night come out on the streets of what was already. Leading one will come out with one of the streets and the street was deserted. Eric <unk> remember all this is a bit like in congress. Remember there is one genetic experience of colors ways. Some was used to be like the carlos story so now reflecting back and saying on in all kind of be influenced by stories from projecting that story in my first expedience so i walk around as deserted. Nobody is a bit boring so i so i decided there. Let's find someone something so. I find a door open the door and at that time i was much younger and going clubbing in all absorb opened the dough. It's apart there. Are people people their wages. Tendency was so enter i ended there in a thunder <unk> inside the reason orgy on on-screen image me much younger plus in origin in the just for the personal record. I not in the origins though the guy i see the award just like okay some kind of borno movies so the first reaction i have is can be real so i just golden in gold closer to the to see the details of the enormity of the details the whole scene the did the the the would smell there was no smell but the smell of the enormities in my mind you know and the and then <hes> and then it was the toy laughed and then there is one of my friends who was passing by a girl and then i could meet that era i mean i committed mania resolve not to be done but that was one era that didn't excuse me adult source that the recession with her had not the knicks on the my own beat you're support in this conversation and the moment i started to have conversations more and the just a uprooted me back at night and i woke up so i called that dot was point of no return enough that i learned <hes> is a i went into all kinds of approaches astral rejection out of body of and a uh dreaming us dotted all of them and the ended up by <hes> teaching them after a while after it became confident in my own experiences <unk> the end created the msci for all so the the end the miami my own outcome of this i experienced in the experiences that all all of these is the the i do not judge anybody you can sometimes hear amir renting having an opinion the ball <unk> doctors optus but it's always inscribed in dime <hes> it is not the complete defeats. The idea was saying don't die stupid. Even even doors can have an opinion in one point of time but it doesn't mean that i'm close the win anything in the box the to say this is right. This is wrong. I'm against the guidance extrema even even though even though i will take some in all states of decisions okay these something that works these dozen words a uh so yeah it was it was of no return and then his explorations. Oh so that is that is the story or important. All the people realize it something needs to our people and saw techniques to others is not wrong. Hawaii technique <hes> uh-huh what works for you slowly and wendy's happened for you allie allie when when when did these i experienced it's up in the two thousand for you yeah busy two thousand some. I was a mazda but they would have to donkeys are as well. The only time i could practice was night so i need to do the techniques that you could do not keep the mind the wait while the body is your guy from lucid dreams found out an excellent technique is i could go to sleep but not be taught in morning from lucy into the astral was good because of two children are quite hosted said this particular technique to me and i still do going into the actual foam news dreams as far as i didn't ask so that works for me because children and and and yuri win win was what year was your first experience same it it was wrong to because it was in malaysia in trouble to malaysia in two thousand i think the i know that was the second time so it should be two thousand awesome tool two thousand three something slightly more than fifteen years ago i sing but difficult to pinpoint now but it was at the beginning at the beginning of what i just just spend one year in malaysia india two thousand one thousand then again by one year later must be two thousand intrigue you and how has eight hamas these first experience kind of then allowed you both to move forward to where you are now. Tell us a little bit about that. This is the loaded question. Should i started driving down. Ooh my experiences <hes> so many yeh ed and i started to between my outward experiences yaqoob jetsons and dreams of having dreams james i was being chased by a man some sometimes young boy the on a smile always wanted to and because i was often done in my big plus i called the osce patterns and what is the action introducing the connection between owned deducted still read that have these lines as an abused child felt through these experiences which went on over yeeha was his fault netted took into now. I ended up begin to heal the house life with all to me the boy who had committed suicide as a young man <music>. I'm an ultimately him as an adult. You can teach up so we can change the parks or you can change an aspects. Oh a probable are either not because it was just so many coincidences sign many things but it wasn't easy joe. It was always his. If i had to do this before i can leave all because the long ethnic a ticket state some of my experiences <music> off intense but i knew the <unk> alone is be prepared the what would happen and this is what i say thank when people do go home this all your yes you can have incredible experiences of joy unending obvious ina jenny so you end up with yourself in spicy clean and old line towels. <hes> positive aspects negative aspects and i saw. Do you think it's important to prepare seem so that you actually be paid. What you did is likely to not drink before i started having what experiences auditor negative experiences but it was nothing i could handle it was almost missive on was onset cameras <unk>. Let's go is. I do believe the scene something now. Oh you face in months on tom owners jia or in ten days or the next lines so one way so this experience with this went on for about a yeah many maybe got it down. It was growing experience. It made me feel phone. Gotcha yes co nation. All heating off night was et cetera heisel okay. I'm ready to face the final frontier if you like if they spoke up and said i'm ready. It wasn't like it just happened to responsibility responsibility for it and i'm ready to so i let my body in our swan around in my parents golden in which often uses ace count on the summer sean. Oh this is cool. This is nice relaxed and it's only a whole appeal in my parents house. My parents was symbolized me a total. The total was big and black dragged into this backwards and i okay i trust is shooting. Gold is up when you do exist dragged down down down now. If i believed hale last will a breakdown and unique typical way motions under control it down wash it because he was ugly wanted anyway and waiting for me with these big plow with negative energy the following me around for ten days every now and again before or experiences not mess this big cloud of negative energy. It wasn't a being something most of them stranger things it was it was just negative city and it was the negativities the i could use in the line in the fear ashamed the gills and i had to dissolve that so for some reason. I don't know why i'm not religious on an eh. I put my all out in the state in an full of across and i started poaching from the emerald tablets of thoth upgrade once a new hot man it was something like yum don't keep your face ever pointed towards the light off and then suddenly they so how is negative energy dissipating dissipate on woke up and i have been but that not big imprison and and suddenly will if people are free all these people were craving that krizan and they were the trains coming with the people and carried away novice flying. We'll waving to eat chocolate. I want to be free. I wonder why paul i was not it. It was often carrying around his heavyweight. Who my line aware of it. I think you just get. I used to cabinet in benny's numbers light snow out of position wide something to that eerie <hes>. I'm trying to look to forget your question. The aw i kennedy bound with something similar is a was a recent one but i'm trying to two billion. You used to have to then. What's your first. I experience as well might go. Oh you want me you want me to shame on. You didn't use to them to uh-huh keep trucker or i'll quickly shaimaa and then we'll move on mine is actually so so much similar to yours erie very very very similar. At the time i was <hes> behaviorally reading tom campbell's work and i was also reading michael radu guesswork doc the phase and i was studying the face for ran about a week so i read it over and over and over again <hes> and it was just the the method where you set your alarm clock for for i am so i set it for. I think it was about three thirty or something and these may have been the second or third dioxide. Remember exactly. I think the first time i tried i didn't fell asleep but the second day possibly could obtain <hes> <hes> i used one of the techniques where you picture a a scenery and was like just the scenery of like a mountain with you you know clouds in the sky and then that scene started to turning three lucca was pumping through the actual image each and i actually popped through the image the image kind of started wrapping around me and then next thing i know on sitting sitting in an office with a man sitting next to me and for what seemed like about i don't know maybe maybe tain tain or twenty seconds. I was just looking around in absolute amazement just like always looking up at the roof. I was looking at the person sitting next to me and hey actually turned and faced me. Get inside anything but just sending vice me and i'm staring down. Oh my god i did it. Almost oh my god did it. You know what i'm just looking around on this. Is it like i'm thinking in my head like i'm looking around and everything was very very detailed. Leica look when you look on a real high definition television. Everything looked like that just abnormal high definition collars were beautiful <hes> <hes> and schlaug ac- i could say there was a big glass wall all leading onto the street so i was thinking to myself. I wonder i wonder how can get to after the straight on being curious thinking in my head and as i'm thinking it on now already floating towards the glass wall and get to the wall tonight is that there's no all some thinking. How do i get outta he to get out onto the street. 'cause i wanna see what's at bit as i'm thinking that doors open like locking star trek he like the enterprise. Did they just open. 'em now a man on on the street and it's it sydney at night time and it's raining just a little bit and there's people walking around but i constantly they face as is the kind of like in robes and it's just all and they're walking around the city. You know like normal people doing normal stuff so i mean absolute shock your car. Just disbelief looking at the buildings are noticed sydney tower and i noticed that the angle of the towel was a little bit. It wasn't exactly like what the tower looks like so i did notice that and then i walked over to <hes> i'm a strain that had like a stone wall and the buildings were made out of sandstone and i started to touch the saints then and not bullied these just so incredible and i started getting close to the saints and just rubbing it comb my god i mean in an over here and at that point so that was my first experience but you spend the time seating in the chain there will be in the <music> all longest. It seemed like a long time because i was just another week off. No not that it's like we are so grace raise. The first experience is a long when you guys are the first one all i did the second four years. Not my first one was the longest i've ever <music>. I'm never been able to have one that law game yet a hold on linkedin lusted. It's hard to say maybe well maybe one minute or two minutes i dunno. It's hot decide but it seemed like a team yes. It seemed like a really long time because i think i was so in awe i was so like all young said they smashed my face. That's the all feeding uh-huh these amoy like a whole other dimension. What is this place. I thank you for listening. You'll find me at astra wings dot com. I decided to resurrect old domain name because it was always days to my heart and and i always kept it going so i decided to get back to it. If you want to find out more about astral projection if you want to read about so my experiences his i post them up on after wings dot com and thank you for being with me today and busey next time bye for now <music>.

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 Who killed Swedish prime minister Olof Palme?

Today in Focus

29:21 min | 9 months ago

Who killed Swedish prime minister Olof Palme?

"Today could the secret files of a world. Famous crime writer helped to solve one of Europe's most high profile murders and on Valentine's Day. We chat to the first same sex couple to get married in Northern Ireland. So it's a typical March Dane in Stockholm snowy dark. And I've just arrived with my old square Volvo outside. This rented storage facility now waiting for my man and Daniel Pearl the editor in chief of the Expo magazine. He comes with a small tiny Japanese car pulls up next to me and we go to open up the doors and it almost cozy when we enter their. Despite the fact that is just a sheet metal building we walk the long corridors. We come arrived to special storage space and Daniel pulls up the sheet metal door and suddenly see twenty cardboard boxes full of documents. And the right labels are there. It's about the Palme murder. And it says the stieg Larsson Files Dot Clara is describing stumbling upon a huge archive of files compiled by one of the most famous crime. Novelists in the World Steak Larson the paperwork revealed that the author of the bestselling girl with the Dragon Tattoo had spent much of his adult life obsessing over a real crime. One of Europe's most famous unsolved mysteries. The assassination of Swedish prime minister all Palmach in one thousand nine hundred eighty six documents showed how the novelist had been diligently piecing together clues to the murder before his untimely death in two thousand and four a decade later stock lasser. A former Swedish diplomat picked up lessons trail and with it an obsession that has led him to new evidence now being investigated by Swedish police who remain desperate to track down the killer from the Guardian. I'm meniscus Donna. Today in Focus. Who killed all of power? The unsolved murder that still hold Sweden on the twenty eighth of February in Nineteen eighty-six our Prime Minister Olof Powell and his wife Lisbet Palme at planned to go to the cinema. And they left their home around eight o'clock in the evening and it took the normal underground and they had called off of their bodyguards. Sometimes our prime minister wanted to feel like a normal person. They're going to see the movie. The brother Mozart which was very popular moment. It's about the craziest theater director. Who's trying to run this theater piece about Mozart? And He's fighting against whole ensemble and it just becomes a crazy comedy after the movie ended. Our Prime Minister and his wife started walking towards their home in the town Stockholm. Do you know what the weather was. Like was minus seven degrees Centigrade and Was still snowing a bit and quite quite chilly wind so it feels like minus fifteen so not a nice evening to be out on Friday night so there were quite a lot of people actually moving around anyway studied walking along Svay Avirgan lisbet wanted to look in shop windows so the cross the street a couple of hundred meters later they came to the corner of the building there was a man waiting for them and he stepped up from behind and shot one shot in the back of a prime minister who fell to the ground. Lisp it was dragged together with him to the ground. The man fired another shot went through his her coat and made a scratch on her bareback was olive palmer killed instantly. Overpowered died immediately before he reached ground he was dead. How DID THEY KILLER ESCAPE? So Soon. After the killer has shot the two shots his starts running into an alley off the street of the busy street and he runs for two blocks before he reaches stairs with eighty nine steps and he starts running up those stairs to escape. Did anyone see him? At the merging. There were fifteen witnesses that saw part or whole of the the shooting so after the murder run upstairs and bumps into two witnesses and runs into a side street after that he vanishes and after that we know hardly anything that this is everything that we know tell me about. Palmer. What's his background. What's his politics? Palmer was our biggest statesman. Sweden's biggest statement in the in the twentieth century. Maybe even longer. Despite the fact that he was from the upper class he left his background and became the chairman of the Social Democratic Party and he was extremely controversial inside Sweden outside Sweden so this was the beginning in the middle of the of the eighties. We coming up to the end of the Cold War. He took a very important role in it he. He was always on the side of the poor and oppressed people around the world so all of Palmer's spent his whole political life fighting the apartheid regime of South Africa at many times. He was actually provoking and causing controversies with superpowers the USA and the Soviet Union. He Nice to prevent both of them. He was against the Vietnam War which provoked the the. Us They actually called the ambassador. Home twice from Stockholm because of all of the Soviet Union invaded the Afghan- Afghanistan. He was his spoke up fiercely against him so he had a lot of enemies he had enemies outside Sweden and also inside Sweden so among his enemies you would find even very important. Business Leaders In in Swedish industry they were actually giving money secretly people running campaigns against our prime minister. Sometimes we say that half of the people loved him have other people hated him. What was he like as a person on the outside in the domestic politics was arrogant intelligent and extremely strong in his techniques of debating his his health some of the best speeches ever in Swedish and sometimes also in foreign languages or data ferry booming Anna at the dawn of the hobby among exemple moderna historian domain element here for me at Phnom Grad? Annika or. I do lobby. There's this speech when poem is speaking against the boming of yet It's it's heartbreaking. Actually listening to that held three hundred men. If another man he was so loved on. So loathed in Sweden. His death must've had an amedure and very differing reaction the moment when we learned that he had been murdered. That's one of those moments when Sweden stopped when everybody knows what they did and the whole country changed from from that moment on old day they'd been standing silently behind the barricades just across the street from where it happened. The people of Stockholm shocked and stunned with at such. An active political violence should ever have taken place in this. Normally peaceful city of this police collecting their floral tributes and placing them all nick sex bolt. Where Olaf Palme was gunned down. Do you remember where you were when you heard I remember in everybody remembers? I was working in theater. I was running the lights on on the late show on the Friday night and just very close to when I was closing the curtains of that theatre That was the time when nola panel was shot in Stockholm next morning. My father called me to my small student department in Goteborg where I was studying In telling you this this terrible news. My first reaction. I was just quiet and my father was telling this very soft voice which never used otherwise. I would say so. I think we were morning. Started to mourn in that moment for the first few hours just amongst the grief was chaos and at first nobody was properly in charge of the police operation. The three possibilities actually of who would run the murder investigation. I would Tomlin stream also called Tommy Turbo. Since he was caught driving one hundred seventy nine kilometers in his Saab Turbo he was the head of the National Criminal Investigation Department. His unit had experience dealing with violent crimes so he might have seen the obvious candidate of this time he decided to stay at home instead waiting for his sons to wake up before so that they could greet him for his birthday. He only got to the office at ten thirty then spent young root. Who was head of the security police of the security? Police were excluded because they were actually responsible for protecting the life of our prime minister so nobody knew where their loyalty lay. The third option on the person that ended up taking charge was the commissioner of the Stockholm County. Police Hans Holmer. When he heard about the murder he was in bed with his girlfriend in a hotel a hundred thirty miles away but he immediately got into his car and drove to Stockholm home. Telomere was a cool guy. He was Sweden's answer to Clint Eastwood. Were BLACK LEATHER JACKET. And he talked with a with a dark voice. Palmer an irgun seeing things onto now. He may have been seen as the Swedish Clint Eastwood. He was actually a lawyer by training and had never let a murder investigation before the problem started from the outset to the police started to make mistakes immediately after the murder The Cordova area was much too small. That didn't find the bullets which were found only a day or two later as the didn't a question on the witnesses that didn't contain contact witnesses that they they've promised to call the day after the didn't call for national alarm. The didn't close to borders said enclosed the airports so the things to do after prime minister has been murdered and did homer as time went on start to focus in on any theories severi soon after the murder investigation started hansel. Mary started to focus in on the Kurdish Liberation Organization the PK K. K. K. That seems that unusual possibility. Well equipped pre. They were quite present in in Sweden. Ola Pound Misgovernment had actually granted them asylum There were quite a few members present in Sweden and they had been carrying out murders in Europe before made his if politicians know they had only been killing their own people of their own organization. So nothing similar hustle. Mary's convinced that he's coming close to solving it. One reason was actually that his good friend Ed because some spin doctor very close to all of Powell's had received information one day before the murder that the Kurds were actually planning to murder somewhere in stucco. This proved to be false planted information and as time goes by it seems clear that home area sort of obsessed about a line of inquiry. That doesn't seem to be coming to fruition. So what happened. Did he remain in place? So hansel Amir stayed in his position for the full first year of the investigation before he had to leave but he continue the investigation in secret. They were actually smuggling eve struck dropping equipment into Sweden illegally and were caught after he left. The police worked for yle on the theory of a conspiracy involving multiple perpetrators but then a new lead investigator was installed who focused. Instead on the theory of a lone killer within months they found a suspect who fit the bill the Drug Abuse Krista Pettersen Krista. Pederson was a person who had been close to the killing in time and he was also someone who had killed before very close to that scene also and he was arrested and accused of having killed our prime minister. Did they have any evidence? By far the most important piece of evidence that they had against Pettersen was to line up an identification by the widow. Our prime minister close to three years after the murder in a video recording. She pointed out and said that. That's the person that I think. Killed my husband based mainly on this identification parade and without forensic evidence. Pederson was convicted and sentenced to life in prison but shortly after problems emerge with the evidence. It turned out that the police had influenced list bets decision. They told her that the man who killed her husband was a heavy drinker so she picked out the person she thought looked. Most like that Pedersen's conviction was quashed and he was released. Slogged clock on Alvarado Bentley oldest yonder domain mold keister Petron Pal morlet when he was celebrating an all. These journalists were surrounding him outside his apartment in on the outskirts of Stockholm when he brought a bottle of vodka bottle. Bailey's and that actually became the new trendy drink in the in the bars of Stockholm. It became a cocktail. Mikhalkov killer. Wow can you still get a killer today? You can actually order one the other day and It's it's still a possibility to have a killer in Stockholm Nice Bokram Bailey. Sounds a bit disgusting? They're slightly better than a white Russian after partisans released from prison in nineteen eighty nine. The investigation rolled on for decades through four different lead. Investigators the Swedish press public remained obsessed with the murder of Olaf Palmer. Nobody else was ever convicted. And the greatest mystery in Sweden remained unsolved may mal in two thousand and thirteen. Yon was researching a book about Swedish murders. Not specifically the Olaf Palme murder. But while rummaging through the archives he came across a curious anonymous memo about a possible suspect in Palmer's case and the paper was signed there was no data on it and asked the lady who headed who wrote this and she said something that turned my world over. She said Stieg Larsson the crime writer and I was saying what you mean. Stiegler Sohn what has has he got to do with the Palme murder and she told me that he had spent a lot of time investigating the actual murderer prime minister the world famous author of the girl with Dragon. Tattoo Still Lassen. Yeah so stieg. Larsson was a graphic designer working in the news. Agency of Sweden t t dreamt of becoming a crime reporter but he he was stuck to his job as a graphic designer so stieg Larsson from the first day. He was extremely interested in in the murder case. He also got a lot of information from all the reporters at the news agency. So he was one of the persons that knew the most about The actually best degation very soon after an continued doing this for eighteen years until the day. He died when she told me that they were were. This paper was written by Stieg Larsson. She also told me that may be more and I knew I had to start looking for them. How did you find them? I started meeting with the Friends of stieg Larsson. I met his life partner of Gabrielle. Son and everybody told me. Go look there. Go look there and in the end. I contacted the editor in Chief of Expo Donyell Pool. Expo was a magazine founded by lassen in the mid nineteen nineties. It was a place where on the side of his day. Job He would carry out in-depth investigations into the far right in Sweden. Not long after Larsson's death. Daniel Pole took over as editor and in doing so took possession of all his unfinished work and he said that they may have some fines. But they don't have the time really to to look for it and manage to persuade him a couple of days later. We found ourselves out the outside. The rented storage facility. I found memos I found articles often reports person letters top secret papers from secret police and I I read everything. How did that fail? Felt like a child in a candy store. That can actually eat anything. You want an as much as you want. So what did you were? You allowed to take the papers away. Did you have to sit in the storage room and read them? So the first air wasn't allowed to leave the The the space. But I sat there and it almost felt like I was in paradise was sitting in this. This really simple building on the outskirts of Stockham. The snow was blowing outside But I just sat there and read for the whole day eventually Daniel Pola Gabe. Yan Proper access to the files so he got to wear trying to figure out what they meant. I decided that I need to get order into his paper so I started discounting everything. I Os Yard it so I could search inside digitally in Sarajevo and I started to get through the the whole material a studied to get the picture of what stiegler thought had happened. The theory sounds like it belongs less in the real world and more in one of stieg. Larsson's books here's how it goes. Pomme was killed through an international conspiracy between two different groups. The murder was ordered by the South African security services. Young South Africans were actually angry as Olaf Palme working against their part regime and also the weapon. Dealings that they were involved in the killer himself was a member of a Swedish right wing extremist group. Who didn't like Parma's politics and South Africans used the method that they've used several times in the same period of time actually where the pushed patsies people with right-wing opinions ahead of them to actually carry out the killing and if they did manage to carry out the killing the backup of their own agents to actually helped carry out the killing and then the patsies were recalled. The murder was organized through middleman. A Swedish national living in northern Cyprus person called Berkeley Deane who was working for the South African secret service who was actually appointed to to to find the people that could help carrying out the killing in Sweden cy. According to Lassen the South Africans contacted Barrow Friend Dean who then contacted the Swedish extremists who then killed Palmer. They all deny it. The South Africans are saying that they're innocent that they've done not done anything of this. The middleman says the same but the Swedish police are at the moment looking into the South African trail the middleman and the right-winger so Sweden has taken the information from the files and continued with his own inquiries including tracking down a walkie talkie that was allegedly left by the scene of the murder. If it could be linked to the killing that would suggest that multiple parties were involved. Hans melander the head of the Swedish police unit. Looking into the Palme case confirmed to us. The officers are investigating this lead. And I definitely think that this can be sold. It can take one or two years more before we have a solution. I mean it sounds the stuff of spy thrillers. You show that this wasn't stig. The author getting excited about the possibilities. I mean South African security services. Don't have a history of murdering prime ministers across the world. Well they do have a history of killing people around the world actually and they do have a history of trying to kill Prime Minister for instance in Lasota. The did these type of things. The have been other theories that have gained a lot of traction in recent years to and whether or not stieg Larsson's theory is correct. What is fascinating to me? Is How obsessed. He clearly was with these boxes and boxes of files year's worth of work. How obsessed hands homer became smuggling in illegal eavesdropping equipment? How obsessed so many others have become over? One hundred thirty. People have falsely confessed to the killing. There were books and films. There's a podcast just about the killing. Which has over a hundred episodes starts minister of parliament in the methuen him as a term Palmer virus. Which means being taken over with this obsession. Do you think you have it. It's definitely something an obsession that many people have have caught in Sweden. It comes and goes in waves. I actually think we're on a on a big way right now. I definitely caught it but you can have it for ten years and then you're still okay but if you go for twenty turn crazy. How long have you had for nine? That's why you're drinking the killers need it. Why do you think that this case has become such a pervasive issue for Sweden? It was clearly a horrible crime but it happened more than thirty years ago. Why is it that people are unable to let go? It's the ultimate mystery. It's something where you got all this information and you think that it must be somewhere in there. If you just put the pieces together right you will be the one who solves the mystery. The killing our prime ministers actually the worst crime against democracy ever in Sweden. And it's of course extremely important to solve it and that's also one of the reasons. Why so many people are trying and continuing to try yen? I hope you recover from your pomme virus. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you that was John. Stott Plaza whose book the man who played with fire is out now. If you're intrigued by the Palmer case then I'd really recommend the Guardian long read. Who Killed The prime minister by imaging West nights you can find it on the website coming up marriage equality history is made in Northern Ireland now. Today's Valentine's Day and while the thought that might make you cringe. We've got something to celebrate this week. So the first same sex marriage take place in Northern Ireland after that historic vote in Westminster on Tuesday. Robin People's from Belfast and Shiny Edwards from Brighton tied the knot in County Antrim. And we call out with a couple just before the Big Day. Charlemagne's obsolete world may from day. I matter I knew that I was going to spend my life with. There's just no words to describe the love I have for. She's not only my partner. She's my best friend and I just feel quite humbled and privileged. I'm able to marry my best friend. Now we actually met in a nightclub who Kremlin again. I called pair in Belfast. And ever since that night we were inseparable where a lot more different than certain aspects and we are similar were shot. He would be absolutely obsessed with football. I tolerate but we compromise. I think thus highway work being gay in Northern Ireland as hard when we couldn't get the right to get married at sort of gives them grind to discriminate because if they weren't giving us the rights to be equal. People aren't seeing music. Well they are seeing you beneath them and it's just not right at all. I didn't know that it wasn't legalized in overnight in the toy actually met Robin and she from my eyes made me aware and I just could not comprehend comprehend how far behind Northern Ireland was compared to the rest of the UK the fact that people will still dictate in hell if we should live. Their lives is just insane especially twenty-first-century. The politicians were fighting against it. Saying no Y- where religious and should be mon and woman to see them and tell us hi we should live. Our lives absolutely is disgusting. Mars is important because it makes you feel like you're equal to everyone. The majority of the wild can get married. So why can't gay couples get married? There is no excuse. We'RE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. We should all be treated exactly. The same is time that we're all equal. It's the commitment. Say you know. I want to be able to connect to the woman I love and get married to her. Not everyone wants to get married and that's absolutely grabbed while you're straight gay lesbian but just to have that right The fact that this bill was Melvin. Post is just amazing. I feel very humble myself to be able to celebrate it with everyone from an island. The fate hasn't ended. We sold to keep going. Say how does have a partnership with Sean? I just like any other marriage. You'll get dissolved in some way. But if there's new grinds if you're selling love without portion the heaven cheated the haven't been abusive then you've new grinds to get that ended to then get married. So a lot of people are in the position where they have had their civil partnership they WANNA get married to be equal like everyone but they find themselves in a position where they con- that needs to be still fought for on. We will keep fighting until out there. That was Robin People's and Shiny Atwood's who are now in Cyprus on their honeymoon I hope they have a wonderful time. That's it for today. This episode was produced by Josh Kelly. And Courtney you surf. Sound design was by Axel Kakuta the executive producers on Coal Jackson and Phil may not have a cracking weekend. And we'll be back on Monday.

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document and it's highlighted medical show yeah so let us know if you want us to put it that way her now allegra frank yes tell us how this makes you feel you know how I mentioned briefly how I'm feeling intense depression yes there's a halloween event that is happening right now and featured in that Halloween event will we've got double candy which rules we've got dark rye rates that's awesome and then the also you can leave any second of all Charlie under was the first virtual friend I ever had oh and for that but that's what I'm having today but listeners if we're conducting an audience survey to better serve you so if you would like to offer feedback on whether we got a real lucky one this weekend posted a screen shot it was a shiny Halloween female so we have a slack room for Polk Mongo Chats Var Media and Christopher grant on Monday posted oh as many of you know probably all of you know I love Charm Mandour it is my favorite Pok Mon frankly it is my favorite fictional oh character I personally identify with charming under why because I love it has no attributes it was the first first of all you reiterating the story made it worse wo Kay it doesn't inspire envy or joy or it does not inspire envier joy now here is why commander and then I I still caught it by using an ultra ball because I can't lose terminator study was not special approach every charm mander that exists of this Halloween event but it is very hard to find in the wild simone as any start with a pitch session we're gonNA help allegra workshop something that she really really wants I'm and we're GONNA play a little thought game thought experiment and then the whole you can breed with ditto and you can or sorry in this game with breathing and red and blue you can breed but are some unique pokemon in Halloween costumes that you can catch such as Pika chew wearing a Mimi coupo- cop assume costume a possum all the sore so dear when they announced this event and there was a special costume charm in her of course I was like Oh my God I need all of those Shari under a need shed Indra should enjoy shouldn't wearing a should indra mask it's like very lazy coster squirrels got a little top hat and terminator remember how they explained it they had justification well I think I don't know what your head but as your other friend this is the justification I will give you as hello and welcome to the gun show I'm and I'm here with Omega Chelsea Star a low post not areas it's like this Pok Mon and the way you evolve it is like skin sheds you just like the skin of some bug he's female okay well whatever too that the goal of this is Chris Grant has this extremely rare Rohingya can't capture baldassare you made your choice but that's in later games when they have breeding there's I honestly don't know what wait what did you what is the Bulbous or wearing a mask for is it what's that poke him on that like areas you have to offer in return okay so let me tell you where I have already started and you guys may be can help me direct because yesterday or Monday uh was this I have nothing to offer you what because I don't have any poke him on that you don't have charm andor and what another thing about me other been loving tormentor is I love all women Pok Mon because the so be sexy mobile store for Halloween now finally glad you got that sorted now are boss our boss former Bosra Lego Chris Grant he's always it looks super cute. I tried to go gold bulbous Halloween costume and just got actual Halloween costumes super great including a you know sexual now has you can only get that one started at the beginning right you can't catch more charm and or whatever in Pok Mon red and blue like just that's the one charming enter and you can't catch but I will give you human dollars okay I know this was starting really weak and now I'm like turn it took a twist love Charlie under so much anytime I see anything related I will buy it I have twelve charm Andrew in my room et Cetera and even more my mom's house my fellow Pokemon go player have you seen yet nope exactly I only seen Mimi Kapika choose same I've only seen Miki peak which I have a lot of because they're very cute F- okay I think it's just mostly sleep because he has two young children yes so why don't you just babysit his children okay so I would mander men you want it yes so we are going to try to find an argument to make Chris Grant Trade you this term enter I guess my first question for you is what do you who which he said I don't want your money to which I said is it because I don't have any money to which he said Yes to which I said you would know that I offer to Babysit his children and in return he doesn't need to pay me he would just have to give me the mander yes okay that's the one thing I know he needs lake is there something about charm anders this just makes sense biologically pokemon though it does not in my good friend explained it to me once but I don't halt yes you Redo a home yes renovation renovation that's the word you listen to him talk about home renovation and a property values in Philly and possibly New Jersey her eighty seven point five percent male how else point five percent female and this is across the board it's similar for literally all poke him does this I saw him and we traded and here's the thing I wanted to trade for that charter so obviously as already starting to make my pitch my pitch to him read that charm andor with anything because Ditto is also hard to find so if you have a male charm Andrew but not a female army under you can't breathe it with anything not as it used to be my boss okay so you seated ground very quickly I know yes have you thought about the thing like here's what Chris Needs in his life has you need to read it with a female charm ender but if you have a female charm under the mothers species is dominant so you can breathe a female charm ender with a male well here's another important fact yes every time I look at the page for Pok Mon Bobo Pedia. The gender ratio is out of control for example Charmaine Z. Yeah how much money did you offer him well we didn't get to the number because he immediately how much would you offer I would probably offer him about a third of my next pay check you never that much money well how much money that's like one hundred dollars I did see a random gerrymander today and it made me scream in the street but it was just a normal charmian stop and go oh I went oh it was we know there were no genders in that game the whole point is gender is a I point is if you had a female charm enter it would be incredibly easy to all like frigging joke is always Wail Lord which is busy and you don't get a baby charmian what's that's has hokum on work yes I'm Chris Grant okay so taking into account what you both have offered here Chris Grant it's been a while I know last oh you wouldn't be so upset it's just like for all reasons we've mentioned like my favorite Pok Mon Shiny meeks extra rare female makes have no human dollars but I can offer you other fakes in response or in trade for the star manager time we talked didn't necessarily go so well I offered to give you human dollars for your virtual charm manner and you said no correctly me fourth pass which is why I'm his favorite child was determined under Simone I know that you are retired wonderful father of two and you spend so much time with them you work from home they love you all I need Chris Grant is to see the wonderful renovations you've been doing on your home I'm very curious about the property taxes especially I can take one for the team and I will babysit the kids know needs to pay me no need I don't need monetary compensation out the renovating process because I think that you are so so well-versed in home legal early they want to spend all of their waking moments with you but sometimes you need break babysitting that's expensive shunting the kids other than this conversation of you telling me about your home ownership life is one thing and it is to a family member that's not fair to them maybe you all WanNa do something together maybe you all WanNa take it up here's what I have for you fees and knowledge and all these other things I know nothing about I am a no nothing Chris Grant all I ask in return tough one for you because it is rare indeed but there are so few people in this world who think this steeply about your knee the in Philadelphia now that you yourself are landlord and a homeowner two times over now I'm so curious to learn from you so any pokemon I have the you like for your shiny female Halloween or meter now I know that's a tough something is about you in this world and for just giving me that charm mander a wonderful person to take care of it someone who will really aides who care about what you want because as a father and as a home owner who dates a second home in the back of your first home when is it ever about you it's about the children it's about the new countertops that you were putting in marble are they I think so I've seen it's about the smart appliances and all those things that you're doing I want you to feel like is Genesis Look Asian Z G listen to him talk about home reconstruction when what else he needs tools rare game cartridges on Yes yes do you have an Easter egg in genesis is I don't see I don't have already discovered googling costumes were not going there yet this is true but for the listeners if you have not seen it let let's let's try your your pitch again yes super rare it's a halloween charmaine or so already it's time youth it's very cute look at look up if you can the Halloween charm ender four weeks okay what if I do a trade on your behalf and bring Chris the Japan sluices Oh shit give you anything and then he you will have to say listen I'll give you this rare Japanese pokemon but the only thing you gotTa do you Gimme whatever how's it makes sense they are all like that's like breeding dogs with a cat and getting a dog gabby how that works no so that is why it's very hard to get so you don't get paid that much money I'd probably over him a hundred dollars okay I'm Gonna I'M GONNA keep pokemon go open now I'm GonNa try to catch this pokemon so I can get hundred dollars here's another I mean Chris Grant and probably be happy if you contributed more money to your 401k something he has praised as Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire well Allegra I think we might have to work he knew it wouldn't be easy to find someone to grow her team that's why she went to Ziprecruiter Dot Com ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding massage polygon that's ziprecruiter dot com slash Po L. 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identifies people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job so you get qualified candidates to do us a trade a little POK MON TRADE POGO trade wouldn't cost you much stardust I know it's important to you and poke Mondo important to him sorry which I can't talk about more than I did last week because two weeks ago secrets because it is embargoed there my review will be out on Oy I want to get in the mood for spooky thanks anyway point of this is that there it is not a secret that Luigi who is rescuing captured toads with a thought experiment Chelsea yacht explain the segment okay so I as Y'all know I have been playing Luigi is mentioned let out in the middle of your commute you must've been pretty disappointed when you couldn't fill out a survey after I told you too thank you everyone who did fill out that survey I'm sure listener survey I click the Lincoln it is expired so I get doing that oh I hope nobody decided to game would do peach justice because obviously Susan Smash Brothers is a playable character but I also feel like she doesn't have to be like a bad ass oft oh well peach craft is good I like Peach Peach craft is good I lifted on the title but I think you can agree that my mechanics are sound I think that it is a good game Luigi talk to each other then peaches also there and I just didn't thinking about patient looking her design I'm like Princess Peach deserves a lot better Mario Princess Peach who've been put into paintings by some ghosts and I just end like there's a cute segment and star of the game where Mario and she is literally only exists to be woman be women who we woman archetype I did like that Nintendo did put Monday though so you read the full thing fun stuff but aims out Halloween it should be earlier I frankly yeah whatever because this is like okay sh- peaches designing the mushroom kingdom she's like really thinking wha city planning on like what people are going to like maybe we give it some kind of you're one other Friday charming or do they lay egg well it's not just Sharma underestimate all it's like all star Pokemon ton other Bokram on okay the reason is things I think that peach should have a city builder or a city Sam where she is improving and perfecting the mushroom kingdom it'd be called peaches were hurled okay world of Peach Crafts and if you want to seize the day sleep the night with the help of comb right now polygon show listeners can get mushroom call mushroom kingdom citizen yet the subject and mushroom subjects in next week to do think allegra with literally pushed me out the wind I would probably the phone and be like she I know cursing she needs her thing heard is her thing okay my initial thoughts building off of okay what a princess does princess is happiness score or new she doesn't care about happiness maybe she's just affirmed dictator I think peach cares about happiness I think so too my idea because it would help too Ligi have a lot more depth than Mario so I have a quick questions about ground rules so should in our pitch or design of the peach game on that but we can save it for another week because I'm sure this conversation will be ongoing I was like offer correction remember when I talked about the Yeah Yeah I think that would rule actually and it would it could be potentially very cute gratifies even if it were sort of top down or Harry on enough about my initiative someone snores metering initiative us but I think that it's just like I want to think about what okay then my second question is there is super princess peach the DS gain the platformer so should we try to avoid she's just ripping off Mario there something yeah kind of game could we design that would do princess peach justice make her like a fully-fledged character because I think that Liege's mansion actually makes her and Mario in separate bedrooms I was like at least setting the ground rules nineteen forties married couples I know and frankly as modern couples should be l. up the members of the mushroom kingdom as well giving the toadstools some you don't like that sorry I got hung up on members of the should she be the main character or AK as should be like in the same way that it's Louise Mansions Super Mario World that should be Super Putin mansion super peaches mansion you as a leader at an exemplar for her country I think she is she lives in a castle she's building a metric city builder ooh yes like us and Hanno graphic 'cause all these different like when characters do get their own games of memorial like a lot of them come with special graphical styles right like Yoshi Games leave me Oh so think of it that way to NATO Beatrice really cute yeah and I feel like no actually like in I think that you could just rule role in with the pink and be like yes this is her fucking aesthetic because it's her city there's no reason to feminist peach because I am definitely wanted to avoid that trend of like let's just make the girl Abed ass and I just think like that instead of making the sort of City Building Management Sim the entire game perhaps making it part of a larger game that would be princess peach in this and boy king yes okay and he has king yes so he alex she's the Lake Tactical leader here yeah yeah I like the idea I mean I want her to get her skirt her you know her hem dirty we as well but I think I like the idea of her having a dedicated group of toads that we also kind of get to know come up with like strategic attack plans God it's a really fun game wait I now I'm thinking about like an x com or fire emblem style game where P shes like I guess in fire him three houses she'd be the instructor right or something like that but now so she's just telling Mario and Luigi exactly what to do game on the we and also pc now actually but you play as a little king so king yes as in a small king and wow it was empty I don't even want to continue on go you have to ask anyway I think I would like to build on what Simone suggested is like diplomacy Sam where he had to meet with other world leaders and she had to like practice like just like negotiating Marsha United James Little King's story which is like a store yes I don't bad name but it's a great game what is this I've never heard of it's a wonderful out of mushroom kingdom and you know what she doesn't always Taller Mario so she goes outside of the Kingdom and she goes and she takes care of some of these big pads on her own I like it sir go outside of the Main Kingdom area into the wilderness which is popularly a by like evil kings or monsters and then you have to and they helped construct the town and we get to divine that you know we are designing the mushroom kingdom but then there are there is evil outside a court intrigue strategy game and Gilani who was out of the studio for this whole conversation has come back to a new world also thinking about taking the diplomacy route because a lot of people talking about out a world's right now an which is a game where you could just like level up your charisma insanely and I was like what if this a post and then also he has to recruit some of them for his little army and then they follow him like alarm around the area like Pitman or something hell yeah nations thing ever it'd be like a Phoenix Wright type thing movie yeah where you're doing debates Oh my God that'd be fine I think that a lot of people like playing games where you can max out different like charisma persuasion all of those skills yeah I why can't peach do all those things ask to sort of assign his subjects to different tasks where they have to just you know run and construct different kinds of stores and out I was GonNa say Yeah Oh yeah tactics games democratic's Yes city building and tactics I feel like those are frankly two things peach would be good at like barring a little bit from rabbits a little Mario vs rabbits and a little bit from x Com which is my risk rabid sorry a little bit from fire emblem all this episode of the 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T. old where pages the game of the year now we still don't have a title don't have title did just say a really good title but it was a bit long and I don't think it it on a box would if it was just peace craft Lij craft I did like that I do like that to a winner perfect world of peach craft there we go blizzard won't matter the new trailer however we regret to inform you that C. Three Po is on death watch explain insp before he has to say goodbye and the people facing him are like R. Two D. Two Chewbacca Po fin ray big Disney mood. I mean Allegra yes don't you remember in I mean like he's already been brought back from the dead before by Chewbacca in empire strikes back yeah so like he's a robot here's the thing though Chelsea why is that a bunch of pieces and like chew we strapped to his back and stuff okay so yes so one that just happened in this movie he was disassembled not as much shen based on one line at a star wars trailers lip Outta here I don't know why the Hell you even be listening to some people Allah something like me no Kuni too I was thinking that when you said larger game was like Oh Nino Nino kooning two or one of my personal favorite what's going on what are you thinking because he seems kind of down and C. Three Po says that he's just taking one last look at his friend statements about how everyone is going to die and many scenarios although the mood and the music in this moment in the trailer was somber perhaps in the final hi there this is the final movie in the Skywalker Saga which is all three of the trilogy's right this is the final skywalker related story so it's like chronologically it's up toward the end I'd say kind of more than halfway through the trailer there's a quick scene where PLO Daman Asks C. Three Po same boring it's pretty good trailer trailer las stuff happens it's beautiful I'm very excited for this movie one thing that happens that I do not like is galaxy once he finishes viewing this video it will be deleted forever he is taking one last look at his friends Russian okay yet on it is widely known that C. Three Po is very anxious droid who is prone to making a dramatic like Rtd twos like nuzzling sith repeals leg and making his little upset sounds and then she baucus like and like crying big Disney about being disassembled despite not having any actual pain receptors. You can't feel pain he's a droid I mean the whole beginning of the first star wars movie ever was hit so like he was brought back was he I can't remember was he brought back in that movie as in he died in that movie and then was brought back he was just disassembled like he was is bidding farewell because he is going to die especially because of the reaction after that is R. Two D. Two shoebox like freaking out being a whiny HYPOCHONDRIAC. Yeah Roy love him I love him yes I relate to him so I swear to God there are two people in this movie who I did that's a read that is a read I like that but what about the idea that all of the people in the room except him going yeah so there's a new stars trailer Blab Blah Blah it's boring his like yo I'm into it I'm going to see the Movie Day One anyway calm your senator the the Star War All the Star Wars Warriors so it's like it seems as though C. Three Po as you just alluded to Allegra. Yeah I'm taking one last look at my friends and then he pulls a gun out of his back and kill imagine that either of you played halo four no I played halo four back when I had decided to play more video games I I can't recommend it the last thing the way seats Rubio's talking to sound like that bench was rather be disassembled for two bucket aware as his new backpack Mr Marcus famous or Luigi Mr Luigi Luigi shame there are more men in video games film it will be revealed that the scene is in fact comedic and see Theo is just being dramatic robot yeah he he complained a lot his robot is home video of his journeys with Luke and Han Solo and the layout Oregon through the going rampant rampant I haven't been yeah yeah and suddenly Cortana memory corrupts and and she dies she sacrificed her who needs to survive everyone else can suck my booty hole and die subtle by C. Three Po they must live and who else Chewbacca so you're saying the BA can suck your booty hole and die lake hard to get that or he's thinking he might die if he doesn't get it yeah I don't know he just he becomes obsolete head they can't recommend playing more video recommend playing halo for and it has a story about Cortana his his female. Ai Companion you you inflected cats crimes on your Mamo was cat's head presumably she got me that vhs at some point but I mean I didn't have to watch his the PEO- enter empire strikes back was the v movie or sorry the second movie in a trilogy from the Halo Canon but what if he's just like I don't know his circuits are old he's he needs a firmware update he didn't get the new IOS patch and also everyone definition of a glow up right there he like turns that switch onto his back that's just normal C. Three Po sweet I do like maybe a he's second Peter I have an alternate suggestion. CPO In this moment in the film is viewing through it's like actually there's a kill switch switch it said the kill switch means kill everyone nice eyes glow like the Terminator I WanNa see some evil red eyes the last year we saw Mary poppins which we took a longtime trying to remember like go back through the years and figure out what the Hell we had watched and took us a really long time to figure out that we had watched L. Okay so we'll stay tuned for star wars to find out what indeed happens to C. Three Po September Twentieth Nineteen Twenty is that going to be much cats I know too much but yeah my tradition with my mom and my brother is to go see a movie on Christmas Eve uh-huh dealer like every bail video game character you feel inclined to call Mr Meister Marcus the three years maybe that's why are two Paka are freaking out because they're the only ones who have known him long enough to know that this is the thing he has his kill switch I don't Mr God of war so but she you know so what I don't want to I don't think that he has the Ramzi the over cycle said turn I cannot find the box to drop off my see I told him to Home Depot and didn't have a place you know what I mean it sounded like he was out to do a suicide mission no alternate suggest is extraordinarily good and definitely going my list and I also played a game called islanders which is a delightful soothing you spend points to put down that resource on your tiny island and then you get points when the resource basically acts in the correct way so if I put some of the year voting which I have to do this week so I'm finally going to actually play telling is ha ha but I played a little bit of east shade which was very good down a seaweed farm I think I that costs a point but when I put down the thing to harvest all the seaweed from the seaweed farm I get things and maybe it's another too I wanna see we'd farm or a brewery do I want a a city centre or Hannah are kin and wow it's in the Disney Canon super noncanonical to my heart okay well third option for C. Three Po at for is biggest and then you click yes and then the building goes down and then you have a little house Oh i hit the tail saw it's really a shame because you can't recycle CPO's when they burn they're made a rare earth mineral what if I've been playing the only one playing video games she can talk about Yeah Chelsea can't talk about Louis Mansion you haven't played anything new because you've been sick and dead and also just obsessing over that's manner obsessing over the chairman or to upset you played a lot of game I played a lot of games because I've been trying to cram in a bunch of stuff for time you kind of put down most of the items in that round you will be offered again two choices of a brick yard that kind of thing got it and you're just trying to put down things that are complementary to each other and something's three billboards I think here before that as our happy family Christmas Eve my Gosh Yeah you should be making a never mind sorry even mentioned Christmas Eve movie this year Oh my gleaming it's nothing that or low women all one below women simone cats and sounds like a settlers of Catan it sounds super complicated but it's not because you're looking at you you have a little building and you hover it over the map and you see where the number that little buildings Sam where you start out on a tiny island and you can choose between two kinds of resources Mamas Mamas GonNa blow my thank you for quoting that because I think about it every time did I I like that too I think they already did that with rogue one I don't think they can do to see movies

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