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The Sporting Life: Final Four Special

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

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The Sporting Life: Final Four Special

"Welcome to the sporting life's final four special with Jeremy shockey. Over the next hour longtime college basketball writer, dick Weiss reveals the key to winning a national championship. I think that experience still plays a us role. Once you get the March. And most of the teams are in the final four this year are filled with experienced players, then a two part conversation with a great Bobby Hurley about his story career as a player. And now as a coach, I think I had a really unrealistic perspective of the player. This is pretty easy. We're going to go to term it. We're gonna win a lot of games playing for national championship. And so much goes into it so difficult plus the top chef in Minneapolis makes a bold claim about his cities culinary scene the food, especially in our town. I think is an I'm a little by it. But I get twin to be the hottest food destination in America right now. This is the sporting life's vinyl four special on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy chef welcome to the sporting life special. Final four dish in Monday night. A new champion in men's d one will be crowned and today on the show. We'll be talking about just what it takes the great. Bobby Hurley won two titles is a player Duke in the nineteen ninety s but I no one knows more about the final four. No, one knows more about the history and the pageantry of college basketball than the man who joins us. Now, the legendary the one in only dick Weiss known to one and all as hoops. Thank you for joining us stick. Hey, I mean, it's my pleasure. When you think about how the final four the college basketball tournament, particularly on the men's side has grown in the last half century since you started covering what what first comes to mind, probably nineteen seventy nine the magic or game. Jeremy because I think that turn the tournament from a strong regional of that into a national event that could compete with the Super Bowl and the World Series those two players right comic. You had Larry Bird playing from run being team. Had Magic Johnson and their careers would be twined for the next ten years with the Lakers, and the the Celtics it gave people a reason to watch because those players have made such big in back on the game that year Michigan state actually wanted low seven games that season. Indiana state came out of the blue and basically were carried by one player, but the game the hype for the game was so enormous and it just took off from there. I mean now you're in a situation where they moved the games from smaller basketball arenas. To seventy five thousand seat stadiums. I'm not sure everybody can watch the game. But the interest level is enormous. You know, I think actually I've only covered you've covered a forty seven of them. This will be the guy. I think the only one I covered was at the Meadowlands ninety six when Kentucky won in that. Yeah. Against syracuse. John wallace. It was it was the it was the Patino team not the tubby Smith team that won my old. That's the last team to play in basically a basketball arena. Right. That's last final four essentially in a basketball arena. Yes. And even even the medal, and then was twenty one thousand I mean, the days of playing in a traditional college basketball arena or and traditional NBA Reno Denver at eighteen thousand in nineteen nine those days are long gone. I mean once they moving the games to Seattle, and you will join forty and then forty wasn't big enough. When you got to San Antonio now, just about every vile four is being played before seventy seventy five thousand people, and they have no problems on the dick. It's responding dick waste legendary. College hoops scribe. So long with the new York Daily News forty seven years of covering the final four, and of course, Zion. Williamson this year was kind of a special phenomenon driving ratings driving interest. But of course, it's likely to be a one and done in the age of the one and done with the best players spending. The absolute minimum amount of time that they can spend in the college game. How has that shifted the coverage? That's that's a that's a really good question. Germy thing. I find interesting is taking a look at the last three teams win than are still championship going Carolina. Don't wanna over almost all of those teams were teams that had experienced very few of them had freshmen who started even last year Villanova just about every player on the roster was a redshirt Spelman was technically a freshman, but he was in school for two years. You know, you you. I mean, I I'm starting to that you win with experience. I mean, there are been a lot years. Why Kentucky had the best team? They've won once in the last ten years. There are a lot of years where I do the best team, particularly after they sounded ties. The one dumb and started filling the roster with kids if you leave after one year, they were the favorite this year. They're not here. I mean, I feel bad in some respects because I love I n Williamson I started watching him play ever since he was a going into a senior year. I saw him out of USA basketball minicamp, and you knew then he was going to be a special bladder. But you know, I think that experience still plays a huge role. Once you get the March and most of the teams that are in the final four this year are filled with experience players. It. It's also an interesting thing to me because even a generation ago, the media would be criticized for focusing too much on the coaches rather than the players. And of course, it's easier to focus on the coaches because they're around for a long time, you get to know them, and they have larger profiles the most the players now that's true in even greater extent. Because the players around for such a brief amount of time, how has Baio one and done you'll made coaches, even you could say even more powerful, even bigger figures in the world of sport. Well, I think I think this year. I mean right now, we may be going through a changing of the guard. I mean, there are three new coaches and final four this year and Tommaso. There are six to Paula fame, which is still participating in tournament play. And. There have not been that many who have Kentucky's been to four final fours. They've won championship do 'cause one championship. So I mean, I mean, you're in a situation where times are changing. And I think a lot depends on chemistry. A lot depends on personnel. Last year. I thought Jay Wright, for example, chains dynamics of the tournament by being able to put five players on the floor who could always shoot threes. So style of play and coaches evolving into different styles has played as big a role on new success and storing them as the one done. I I'm not sure that a lot of players can really master your system in one year. And you are now relying the same way that NBA scams rely on a potential when you take kids. Obviously zion. Williams will probably be the first pick in the NBA draft. Choices will question about that. And most of the players who were drafted wh- in the in the lottery will probably be freshman, but I don't necessarily think that translates into national championship teams, dick. It's really a pleasure Joya your forty seventh. Final four. Thank you so much. These the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. We are honored to be joined by someone who knows what the final four is all about. If anyone does he played in it three times. Winning two national titles is a pleasure to welcome to the sporting life, the one and only the great Duke point guard. Bobby Hurley, Bobby thank you for being with us. Go problem. Germany now, Bobby, of course, as the head coach Zona state where you have had unprecented unprecedented. If I could speak properly success over the last few years, you were hoping to be playing in the final four yourself this weekend that did not happen. But you guys made the tournament you lost in the first round your old team buffalo. What was that like for you? Yeah. It was it was a roller coaster really starting with our our last three regular season games. We were we needed to win as down the stretch to put ourselves in position to get to the NCAA tournament. We lost at Oregon, and then we and go to Oregon state and get into great win. And then and then winning at our Zona the last regular season game was real confidence boost or you know, for for the program and get the number two seed and get a bye in the conference tournament beat UCLA in the quarters, and we lost a heartbreaking overtime game to Oregon again that was playing at a really high level they season, and that put us in a position to have to you know, sweat it out a little bit until the last bracket came out on Sunday. But we were thrilled to be in the tournament. And you know last year we were in and we didn't get a chance to win a basketball game. And this year, we take another step and. And winning in Dayton. And you know, the buffalo game was difficult or they're really team won thirty two games and had a lot of seniors. And so that was a tough game for us. But that's what it's about. It's about taking steps as a program, and and and building off that. And that's what we hope to do next year. And I should say you did win a game. I I get confused with the nomenclature Bobby that's called the play in game still. But I guess technically the first round was was the buffalo game. And and a lot of those guys you over there guys that you knew, but you burst onto the scene as a freshman it Duke, it's twenty nine years ago when you made your final four debut, you're a freshman at Duke starting the fall of nineteen eighty nine it was a different world back. Then we knew who the players were because many the best one stuck around all for years. It was different kind of situation. We weren't talking about one in done everybody. Do Bobby Hurley everybody knew Christian late. Inner everybody knew you know, the following year. You know, we Grant Hill came along for you that formative experience losing in the in the championship game is a freshman UNLV. How big an impact that make on you? Actually, there was a lot of pain and suffering. And and you -bility you and you get humbled like that. And they stage with the that many is on the game twenty million people watching they watch the worst version of yourself, and you know, as a competitor, it was tough to take you. He felt humiliated out there times. And remember coach K left me in, you know, at the later stages of the game kind of maybe the soak in, you know, all the misery of how I probably felt that that woman just once I got over that. And and my confidence took a hit. I think initially for a few weeks just got back to work. And I think it it drove me more drove my teammates more so to want to get better. And and hopefully redeem ourselves at some point we're speaking to Bobby Hurley, the college basketball legend who won two national titles with Duke in nineteen ninety one and nineteen ninety two. Two. He is now the head coach at Arizona state. And he's the subject of a one hour documentary e sixty documentary Hurley, which you can see on ESPN, plus as we speak Bobby your your journey, though from that that experience which you took so hard as a freshman to what happened your sophomore you with the epic upset of what are the great teams ever assembled in the history of college basketball team the jury arcane, Ian had assembled which was probably even stronger than the team that defeated you guys in the national title game the year before can you put into words what it was like to be on the court against them again year later in the final four. Yeah. I just think you're paying your younger to you that that was really fun. And especially on the season we taken some hits to them away you aspect twenty four to Carolina an AC terminus beat against the NCAA tournament. But once. We got through the first game. I think we started playing like a much higher level than we were at any point that season in, you know, the addition of Grant Hill is going to change any team immediately. And you know, that that gave me more confidence as a player on that. I had that guy in the program going into these wars, you know, Christian was was the year older as a junior at that point a plane like one of the best players in college basketball. So we had ran through our region, and and one, you know, by double figures in almost every game you've been pretty dominant. So we were confident, and then, you know, we had additional motivation, you know, that came right in and and and told us we could win, and and you know, he said it in a way that that we believed that and you know, we got to work put a good game pleading coach K put on believable game pleading. You have a like Leitner to get thirty. Points in a game that helps but it was it's everything we had to beat that team. They were so good, and they were winning, you know, they all that whole year and they won the championship the year before. So they just expected to win. And they had you know, they had that team. So it was it was a heck of a battle. It was one of the greatest games that I involved with just in terms of quality of play, you know? And so I I just I surprised at the end when I got that last rebound and the clock expired like they the the game. This can't really be happening. It's on over on. And it was it was such a great feeling. Yeah. You you're looking for for some place to go with the rebound. They had to tell you the game was over. Yeah. It still dribbling is just you know, just your stun. You're so excited. It's like when your dream of, you know, a young kid playing so be in that spot where you're playing against the team so invincible, and you know, you you play his. Close to perfect maybe as you could play as a group to to win a game. Like that. If it was so so satisfying. Now, we're speaking with Bobby Hurley, the head coach at Zona state, another successful season out there, and I would expect you to say, this is still a your life. You're still in the game that it's not what it was. But for someone like me, you know, I'm a little bit older than you. I'm forty nine the excitement around college basketball in that era in large part because of you and your teammates and those epic games. You guys played against UNLV in Michigan and others is the same. Now. We're how has it changed in last thirty years? Yeah. I just I mean, I in that way that you see these stars. You know that that you get to watch even for me as a young kid. I got to watch Michael Jordan, mitigate when it shot. I got to see Patrick Ewing play in the final four which orange sound. I you know and Villanova upset Georgetown. I got to see NC state upset Houston like all. All these tremendous final fours. I think my first final four was that. I remember was was Larry Bird versus magic, you know. So I got to see all these these great events, you know, gray funnel floors associated you know, with the NCAA tournament. And it was just became a dream of mine. Like can I ever do enough? Can I can I ever as a player get to that point where I'm playing in a final four? And and I think it was similar in my ear. Oh, just with guys will in the wanna stay year or two, which is wasn't a culture too. You know for players to look to want to go to the NBA, and and that landscapes changed dramatically, but I don't think it's taken away from you know, how badly you know, teams want to compete and their fan bases. Get excited enthusiastic about the tournament. And just all the great things that that the NCAA tournament means to so many people you're Arizona state, obviously now is the head coach, but Duke is still a big part of your heart. Your oldest went to do. You were legend there. What were you feeling when when Michigan state won last weekend? Yeah. Just it's again, it's it's it's the it's the the heartbreak, you know, that you feel when when the season ends, and you could see it, you know, with a lot of the players and the closer you get to the dream of plane and a final four th the the tougher. It is to you know, to lose to have have those feelings and the hurt that's societas with it. But you know, you could see that it was it was two teams that are, you know, high level teas that very competitive game. And it just comes down to you know, who can make a few more plays. And that's why there's such a fine margin between advancing winning a championship. And and you know, just being one of a bunch of teams that didn't accomplish that. It's it's amazing. I mean, I I just got greater appreciation just being a coach for the number of years. I've been a coach and seeing how hard it is. Is to advance to a tournament and get your team ready to win. I think I had a really unrealistic perspective as a player, you know. This is pretty easy. We're going to go to tournament. We're gonna win a lot of games playing for national championship. And so much goes into it so difficult. It was a reminder of of of how hard it is to advance as as talented teams. You might have if you're not at your peak, you know, on the day that you need to be at the time. Then then, you know, someone else's moving on in our last segment we talked about that. I shall title you one when you were a sophomore in nineteen Ninety-one, you guys repeated the next year against Michigan. And a lot of people were talking about those Mishkin teams this year because of the spectacular freshman, the fab five it what was going on at your alma mater this year with those remarkable freshman is well what parallels? Did you see between the freshman this year Duke in those guys that you? Feed it for that second consecutive national title back in one thousand nine hundred to. Yeah. I mean, it's those guys are so advanced. I mean, they they don't play like freshman. They'll look like for do up built like freshman. I had one of those type of guys in Gaunt's. Or who I I was blessed to coach this year. That's a freshman that you know, doesn't look anything like freshman. So talented says and I think players are just more advanced. There's more cutting edge techniques of how to you know, develop earlier and become better earlier. You know, I needed every bit of my freshman year before I stopped playing like a freshman. You know, these guys walked in the door right away. You know, Barry and anxiety on and and you know Jones, and and they made in reddish they made all their impact. And they were ready for you know, the highest level of college basketball and really made their Mark on on it the season. It was it was exciting. Watching those guys when I could you. Oh, Bobby you come from a place in highschool where basically you never lost a place in college. Where you rarely lost it. Oh, it's a different situation going into a program that needs to be a restarted and reconfigured and you're working on it. How how do you deal with the losing that comes with the process of getting great? Well, it's it's the first two years you'd never accept losing. But but you could tolerate it. If if your players are competing, and and give it everything they have, and you may not have the right mix of guys that you need as a coach where your vision of how you wanna play in order to get it to where you need to get it. And I think those first two years were struggle in that regard. But I still felt that our players competed and gave me everything that I had in those years, and then as we were able to recruit, and and upgrade, you know, our talent than we were in a position to. To have the combination of competitive drive, and and work ethic. And and then you know, the talent to win. And then then you have to learn how to win you. Gotta learn how to break through when and beat the top to your in your league. And and to, you know, win at places like Allen Fieldhouse, or you know, we we've won a couple of of holiday tournaments in November the last two years so just continue to reinforce that to make that the standard. And and but at the same time losing, you know for me, I don't tolerate it. And you can learn some lessons if you lose the right way. Sometimes you go in that locker room say solids, you know, we did everything we could I saw that you gave everything you had. And if that's not the case, then then you have to be, you know, you have to address it. And then everyone has to have accountability to it. And they have to see how painful it is for me to to lose. And what that means and. To be uncomfortable. If we lose, so they'll all those things, I think are pretty visible. If if you're around, you know, me and my coaching staff. I can vouch for that, Bobby. It's not a good place to be in your locker room after a loss. Bobby Hurley is the subject of the east sixty documentary Hurley, which is available on demand on ESPN. Plus, and I gotta say Bobby one of my favorite things in that documentary that we did which is I I love that show. But one of my favorite things that a lot of people responded to the great shot of you, add Danny your brother now, the head coach at uconn at the time the head coach at Wagner when you were in his staff, and you guys reacting simultaneously to perceive to be up a bad call. I mean, and of course, everybody knows your father Bob, the hall of fame coach from Saint Anthony. Now that you guys are separated by basically, the full continent meeting you and your brother and your dad who are the east coast, your your dad's now retired you how do you guys communicate with each other about what's going on with your program is it you can't be in the same place reacting at the same time. But what's it like? Yeah. I mean, we do we have so much the same mannerisms, you know, even even my players they were kind of like creeped out like when Dan was in Dayton in a new he was great to come out. And and and give up some time that he needed for recruiting to to see our Saint John's game, and they not only like his physical appearance just how he walks how he talks and the whole thing. Like our players got a chance to meet him a couple of guys did on the floor after game. And they they commented to me like, wow, I can't believe like he's just like you talk. Like, you looks like you. It's crazy. But yeah, we talked down. I talk all the time about a program since. Just really everything, you know, we we would probably be five or six days a week that we're on the phone bouncing ideas off about our program things. Relative to what we're doing and Dan's more in a situation. I was in like my first two years where you know, you kind of venting about issues and things that he's got to change because you know, he's gonna turn that program around at uconn. I have no doubt about it. It's going to be it's going to be a special place like it was many years ago in the near future. It a pleasure Bobby it, always is speaking with you. Thanks so much for joining us here in the sporting life for our final four special and hope to speak to you again soon down the road Virgo, Jeremy enjoyed it. Thanks. I'll be on. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. The final four will be bringing tens of thousands of troops fans to Minneapolis where our next guest reigned supreme as the chef king of the twin cities. He's won four James beard awards. He's a star of just about every medium. You could think of he is the one and only Andrew Zimmer. Andrew thank you for joining us. Good to be with you. It will last year. I saw you. I was privileged to get a chance to spend a few minutes in your company very busy week at the Super Bowl, the beginning of twenty eighteen how does the mania preceding the Super Bowl compared to what's going to come up with the final four, Minneapolis. Well, it's the I just got back from Utah. And I walked in I arrived in the MS p airport, and when I had left there, none of the posters in the signing of the welcome. And all of that was was on display when I left, but it was there when I arrived, and it it it for those who live in a city. That hasn't hosted an event that the whole world kind of tunes into it. Really it. There's a lot of civic pride involved in people especially here in the mid west. I don't wanna be cliche, but sometimes cliches true for reason, we take these things. Seriously, we break. Volunteer records, we roll out the welcome wagon. I think in a way that maybe some cities on the coast with a little bit of Don chalance, because there's so many exciting things going on in those cities made out embrace so fully. So Minneapolis, the twin cities are ready to embrace all the fans that come here it it doesn't approach Super Bowl level by a long shot in terms of grabbing the the daily consciousness of the of the average twin city in the Super Bowl. You know, we we pitched it, you know, we. We formed a committee with Maryland Harrelson. You know, we pitched it, you know, years before the the game came here we won the the we were ordered the right to host the Super Bowl. And it is a massive undertaking. Much much bigger nuts and bolts was and I was lucky enough to be involved with that that Super Bowl event here. But we're really excited about the final four on a personal level. I can't wait. I think it's just going to be an absolute blast much better than being in the metro as it was many many years ago. I didn't Chris wasn't that the Duke Christian Leitner team that was here. In minneapolis. I'm I'm trying to recall him I basketball history of top of my head. You know, I don't remember they won the title in consecutive us ninety one in ninety two I against I can't remember the second one was against Michigan. The first one they beat in the final they beat UNLV in the semi's. I can't remember who they'd be the, but it was a long time. Co all the phone call tweets an angry, but I think within with the old Metrodome. Anyway, we're excited to have everybody. We're excited to have everybody here, and it's going to be warmer than it was for the Super Bowl. I can get breaking degrees right now at sixty five and sunny, so Donald should should be very excited. I gotta tell you speak with Andrew Zimmer Zimmer and the great chef restaurant for a TV personality, author and the face of Minneapolis too, many people which will soon be playing host to the final four one night at the Super Bowl last year. It might have been the night ESPN at a party at one of your restaurants. And then I went to a steakhouse, and I walked into the restaurant, and I had on a big park because it was minus five degrees Fahrenheit, and it was snowing and I said, where's the co check? It was nice new kind of fangled steakhouse in Minneapolis. Forget. The name. It was good. And I said, where's the coach? They said there's not a co check you just put your coat on that rack. This is Minneapolis. Nobody's gonna steal your coat. I'm like, okay. If you say, so so, of course, I put my coat up there. Three hours later after this long dinner. I walk out. My code is gone. And it's ten degrees code is gone. There's a pile of two hundred other coats, my code is not there. I say to the the hostess, you know, I guess it was the hostess or the manager. I said what about my code? They said nothing we can do about it. Sorry next morning. Some person found I guess they found my credential in the code they call the SPN, and they got the coat back to me. But they were too embarrassed to say who they were. So anyway, that's my story about Minneapolis and friendliness neither here nor there. Now the Super Bowl was in Minneapolis in nineteen Ninety-two for the first time. I was I was at that one. The Redskins beat the bills in the food scene was not what it is. Now. Bliss. Changed a lot. It's remarkable. Well, you know what? I mean, it's and it's not just Minneapolis. I mean, it's Milwaukee, and Indianapolis and Kansas City, and they're all these these smaller cities in the middle that we're people who have a dream of opening a restaurant, and I'm talking about everything from someone who wants to make great barbecue to somebody who wants to do really emphasise astronomy, you know, rents are cheaper. We have very successful fine dining restaurants that that pay rents for a month. What it costs to operate a restaurant for one day on central park south in New York City, and we have millions and millions of residents here who are very savvy until the big tech explosion several years ago, Minneapolis or Minnesota was home to more fortune five hundred companies than any other city in America. Seem had a lot of traveling executives. You had a lot of people now in the why call it the food network generation when great pictures of food pop into your, you know, device on Instagram, you can watch something on YouTube of Japanese chef creating some incredible piece of you know, food art history, you know, just with a couple of clicks on your on your hand held device or phone. It's it's changed the game. When it comes to what the audience is expecting. So the food especially in our town. I think is an I'm a little biased. But I think the twin cities is the hottest food destination in America right now, we have so many awarded restaurants here. Gavin Cason left Daniel balloons empire in New York City, and came Lear now has three restaurants here, we have incredible Asian restaurants here of all stripes. You know, if you want something Vietnamese. As you go to high. You know, if you want something sort of, you know, pan-asian you can go to Popo wvu, if you want something Chinese go to our place lucky, cricket and Kim's P has a hybridize pizza, and he gets the mies restaurant called young Joni that has an incredible Speakeasy tucked away in an alley down behind the restaurant. You know spoon. Stable Bellcore, great steakhouses because people like to eat here in the twin cities. But they're dozens dozens of of restaurants. We may not be as broad and deep as I mean, we definitely aren't then, you know, as New York or LA or Boston or Houston or by AMI, but the food here is extraordinarily regardless of price range, and I think visitors to the city are going to be really excited, and if you're coming for the whole weekend you're getting here Thursday or Friday, you're not leaving until Tuesday. Right. So you wanna lot? Unless you're team lose us. Then you might find a way to get home. We're speaking with Andrew Zimmer. And and of course, many people know you as a champion if that's the right word of bizarre foods, what what are some of the bizarre foods that that people in Minnesota grow up eating. Well, it's you know, it's funny. I always liked the idea of our show is as be about. I mean, look some people see it as fat white guy goes around world eats buck because if they. They want that kind of entertainment. That's fantastic. But you know, I really wanted to challenge people to start thinking about you know, what's unique and different cultures. Why is something that odd us here in in America? Somehow, you know, beloved in another country, the the the skit live, the one dish that comes to mind here, the twin cities, of course, is, you know, the Scandinavian staple of Luda Fisk. They're more terrible. Eight terrible my friends in Scandinavian countries, especially Finland Norway joke with me that more Minnesotans eat it than Norwegians and thin. Combine what what is it would? It reminds them of the old country. They need it the nostalgia. That's why if that that's exactly right. And I think it's a way for grandparents to show up the grandchildren at Christmas time. But for those that don't know, it's it's salt cod. That has been treated with lies has become sort of like a fish jello. And it's just Abbott Louis. It's just absolutely awesome. As they can't Leach. So they use lie. Yeah. That's true. We're speaking with Andrew Zimmer and the James beard award winning chef restaurateur, we didn't even get a chance to talk about disc golf baby another time if. Have you back on Andrew Zimmer? Anytime. Thank you so much. Andrew Andrew Zimmer. The great chef I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.

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Hour 3 - Bobby Hurley (03-23-20)

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Hour 3 - Bobby Hurley (03-23-20)

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Patrick made it to the final hour on this Monday. Hope you're doing well and the Danettes Dan Patrick Show. If you're watching on YouTube dot com slash. The Dan Patrick Show. The setup is similar to around the horn. Which would make me Tony Reality. Unfortunately I don't have a mute button here but fritzy's at home seats at home McLellan's at home Paulie is here about fifteen feet away from me in the man cave wherever you are of your safe and hope. We're an outlet for you a distraction if need be that's what we're here for Bobby Hurley Arizona State head coach and former Duke all American. He's gotten a lot of run here the last couple of weeks. Where we've been watching replays of Duke Tournament Basketball Games. And I think the greatest game that I've ever seen was Duke. Against Kentucky will talk to Bobby Hurley. Joining us about fifteen minutes from now also meet Friday songs. The meat madness bracket challenge has is underway in full steam ahead. It's great got some great songs. We got Four more songs to play just today the Memphis region. You have two weeks to vote on the opening round of Martin March Madness. Our version of that with meat madness will have the final fork. And then we'll have the national champion that we hand out a traeger grill. That'll be coming up pulling the elite eight e Ata. Yeah yes can't wait thank you. Let's see what's poll question? We're going with mclovin final hour. Okay I have a couple more options. Okay does Jameis Winston ever make another pro bowl? Yes or no kind of a random question for a Monday. But I'm going to say yes. He does wow. What are the reasons I ask? Is Tony Dungy's statement that Jameson? Payton had the same careers caught fire on social media. People are really into that. And Wondering. Wow could james turn it around? Well you know Peyton. I think they had to see that. This was kind of the embryo stages of somebody who was going to be great. I don't know if teams have seen you know. The colts stayed with Peyton. You know even when he over those first five years. He threw one hundred interceptions. I gave the numbers here where they're very similar. If you look at at Janus over five years I five years Peyton manning over the first five years. Peyton played ten more games you know. He threw seventeen more touchdowns. I'm going off memory here. At one hundred interceptions he had a better won. Loss percentage by far but he was probably on better teams. There you know I think James will get a chance as a backup. I think he's going to have a career that might be similar to Ryan. Tannehill that you're there. You get a chance you play you play well at times then you get kicked to the curb you go in as a backup you wait you get your chance. And he got paid again now. I think James has a chance to be better than Ryan. Tannehill but Ryan Tannehill. I think has the advantage of. He's been through. This any knows what his strengths and weaknesses are. And I think that's Jameson biggest problem if you go back to peyton manning. He came in the League and ninety eight. He wasn't an all pro in our pro. All pro until two thousand three at age twenty seven he led the League in passing percentage passing yardage. And you got to twenty nine touchdowns and ten interceptions and from then on it was generally ten eleven. Twelve thirteen interceptions and thirty plus touchdowns for the duration took him a while but then he wants he did and that you know put back then. If you through thirty thirty touchdowns that was a great season. Now you have to throw thirty touchdowns. The Olympic Committee is looking at pushing the Olympics. Back for a year the saints quietly added Emmanuel Sanders so the niners have lost deforest buckner Emmanuel Sanders. Here I believe Sanders has an opportunity. Maybe our stats INC can figure this out. Maybe you know this mclovin. Has Anybody been in four consecutive super bowls because I think Emmanuel Sanders has been in the last three? And if the saints go that would be four in a row. I guess the Buffalo Bills would be the last ones I'm trying to think Andre Reid maybe Andre but this is with four different teams for manual sanders. Nobody's done that certainly it wide receiver. I don't think mclovin but he missed the year with Denver where he tours. Acl He wasn't in that Super Bowl. That was a couple years ago. He was on the roster. Yeah I think he was. He taught midseason December fifth or something. Okay so there's one break there okay. Patriots brought in Brian. Hoyer and I guess. They promised Hoyer that he was going to get an opportunity to start which saw goes back to my question that I don't know if anybody could answer for me but if Brian Heuer's Godunov to maybe start for the Patriots. Why wasn't he good enough to start for the colts? Seems like you'd save a little bit of money. And Are you getting sort of the same kind of quarterback there that you are with Philip? Rivers this information rappaport. Xfl News Houston roughnecks QUARTERBACK PJ Walker expected to sign with the panthers Not Surprised at that. Think all is left was would vince. Mcmahon allow his players to try to seek an NFL job and PJ Walker played. Really well in the XFL and going to get a chance as backup there in Carolina. Yeah Paul Greatest quarterback and roughneck history in my book. I'm going with that okay. Let me see. What else do we have here? Poll question a trade Jones Duke going pro and I think that's a couple of phone calls here best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked. You didn't like Jason and Florida's off this final hour Jason Kidd Ed. How you doing today five Ken? One Eighty My Best Australian rules football Fox sports aired six games this weekend. Pat McAfee actually live tweeting Game Friday night we didn't and Fremantle Was great to parlays hit. I was a great weekend and then Sunday afternoon. My worst Afl suspended their season until at least may thirty first so it was good while it lasted. I guess all right well. Thank you Jason Degenerate Australian rules football. This reminds me of what He. Spn used to be like when I first got there. Espn had all these sports where you go. Who's watching this? But they couldn't get the rights to some of these other sports and you had to fill twenty four hours. You know back. Then you had one network the strongman contest. They had like a cliff diving from POCO. They had What was it like chainsaw? Races or something lumberjack lumberjacks too. But you had to fill up all of that time that's why when. Espn got the Big East and they got the big twelve. Maybe it was the big eight back then but you got the big east. It was so important for the network because the big east at that time that was must see TV. And you had Patrick Ewing yet. Chris like you. Had you had great teams in Syracuse in Villanova Saint John's where else Syracuse Georgetown. And we had that great Ledin on Monday night and you were watching great basketball. And that was that was essential for them and then they got baseball. You know they started to piece things together. I think they realized how much money they were making in like. Maybe we should spend some of this money not on our anchors but on rights do Other sports and they loaded up on all the college football and basketball they could and that just filled in everything. Yes mclovin yes mclovin. I've read that CNS. I decided not to buy game rights. Do you remember that? And that's what eventually costs a network. No I don't remember that but I guess it makes sense at the time because Ted Turner had tbs and he had the braves in the Hawks and people thought maybe he was going to have an all sports network there on TBS. I I think it worked out for Ted and CNN TBS but with what ESPN did you know to be able to get those rights. That was the difference and then all of a sudden sportscenter became popular. I think the sportscenter commercials like it. All kind of came together back in the early nineties and that's when it exploded. Yeah mclovin so. Why couldn't you get so much talent in the building and CNN? Why couldn't they become? Espn with you. And Gary Miller and all the superstars. Why did you leave? I left because I wanted to do sport and I was at CNN. We were the sports department in an all news network. And you knew where you were on the on the totem pole and we weren't up very high and I thought you know I can go and I can be on Sportscenter and they have sports twenty four seven. That to me was the natural progression. Yes that's so interesting about the development of ESPN. Is that even now? You know your local news. Crams the sports into what two minutes of the entire broadcast? So the idea of doing twenty four hour. Sports was was pretty revolutionary. And I get why a lot of people just didn't see it as being possible. Well I remember when Steve Bornstein who is the president of ESPN? He said we're GONNA REAR SPORTS CENTER IN THE MORNING. So the last sports center would be at one or two in the morning and then it would replay when you wake when you would wake up so you. You kept that next generation engaged. You couldn't stay up to eleven or one o'clock and that morning you could watch it before you went to school and it was brilliant because it was okay to watch it and then watch it again if you wanted to. Yes see but that was exactly. You're speaking exactly about me. I wasn't able to stay. Up and watch. Tv that late. But if I stayed home from school sick or you know air quotes sick I would watch. Sometimes it's like three hours of sports center because it would just go over and over again. Yep Dan you describe my college career. We get home the bars. You know one o'clock at night and you beyond from your eleven o'clock sportscenter beer and we watch it. We see it at the bar and then we go. I want to get to sit and watch it and then we watch it again at two in the morning. And then you get up and I knew like Oh to forty five. They're gonNA show that cub highlighting. I wanted to watch the entire co-pilot. I thought the Genius Sportscenter College Basketball has when you guys would have a good game. Let's say was Georgetown versus Syracuse is a great game. Really Nice Yellow. Whoever BILLY OWENS? Whoever the minute that game was over whoever was the play by play man with throats you guys and you guys would react to the game you back. Wow what a night at the carrier Dome Blah. We're going to get to that and Blah and you. It was seamless and your energy fed. Right from the game to you guys doing sportscenter. They and we stumbled upon a lot of this but there were some very brilliant people there who had an idea of who we were and what we could be at sportscenter but it all kind of came together. When you had the espy's you had the ESPN commercials doing sportscenter with Keith Olbermann. You know we became sue pseudo celebrities back then and all of a sudden I remember somebody saying you know how much you guys make on sportscenter. I go what do you mean like how much sportscenter makes and I go? I have no idea and he goes. Here's a Guy. Right for the media he goes. Do you want to know and I go do I go. You don't want to know. He said sportscenter made four hundred million dollars one year. I went wait a minute. What weight well and we were. They were nickel and dime us when we're going in for negotiations and They were trying to keep is all under their thumb there and I went four hundred million dollars on just sportscenter because everybody wanted to have you know they wanted to be on countdown or Game Day. Or they wanted to do Remote stuff with college football and I realized one day I woke up and I was like. Where did everybody go? That used to do sportscenter. They all they all have their own specialty shows. I was last one standing there from the original group because we had to. Rico Berman bobbly Chris Fowler. Chris Myers Keith Olbermann. Linda Cohn Steve. Levy Reese Davis Rich. Eisen Stuart Scott like everybody wanted to do a specialty show. Nobody wanted to do sports center. Because you had to do five nights and these guys realized I didn't. Hey why don't I just gear up for one big day? You know one big show or something. I'm like I don't do sports center. Two hundred and fifty days out of the year work second shift man quite an experience though glide experience Let me see how about Sean and Arizona? Hi Sean would he have today? Hey Dan how you doing? Good Sir. five ten one ninety degree. I've got to best of the weekend one from Friday one from yesterday Guy My Friday one would be Watched again back to back. The thirty for thirty s on hank gathers and Len bias Friday night and really good wondering pretty depressing. I have an opinion one or both what they could have been going forward. Well lend biased. Leonard Len bias had the talent to be hall of Famer. Hank Hank was a good player. The team was a novelty but that that was one of the more exciting teams that I was ever around. Len bias to me was probably going to be a hall of Famer. I thought that if you had a healthy len bias with Reggie Lewis and you had bird Mikaelin perish sort of in their twilight and you're handing off the baton celtics saw would probably pieced together a few more championships there. But Yeah Lenny was lenny was as good a player as you've seen out of the ACC in history. And that's encompassing a lot of people. And I I love Hank. I grew to be friendly with a Bo Kimble. His teammate and that was fun. It was fun basketball. That's where you go. Somebody is a mad scientist here and his name is Paul Westhead. Because he'll give you two. He wants three and all I want to do is run. You just keep running. We'll give you two. We're taking three. Gary in Indiana is back. Gary what do you have for me today? Hey Dan good morning. It's eight a very soft one. Seventy two points. I think you got todd setup there sorry car Toddy Okay. Fine. You don't lean in member. We talked about this. We did you just shot. Just no no no. I'm trying to help you know about the everything's Everything's cool now. We're we're we're we're working this out in real time where we are. One thing I told you about the microphone was what Natalie an exact normal voice and pick it up fifth space between my mouth and the microphone. And so it's not a dig. I just I'm not just reminded me speech. I wasn't distracted. Thankfully I've got everybody locked. Upstairs families they just want to make sure you're okay Tom. Do you WanNa come in tomorrow. Maybe so we said how about I go to Your House. This perfect all right so I got the Memphis region a couple more meet Friday songs. I got the three six matchup here. This is Sarah and Jason in Ohio Avenue. It seems meals John. Jay throughout the gas. In John McCall see. Dan and the boys gather round the house. Why would pretty good there? Three seed man. The members region is stacked really in a broken out. Our lighters on that. Oh I know here is Glenn in Michigan Sixth seed title mob. Wrap them up and I think a Master Gone. How TRAEGER GRILL? I smoked with Hickory. Sometimes Mosquito Myself Glenn in Michigan. He's a six seed little. Louis Armstrong. There had is really well. Done even got mosquito in there. Which one will play Scott in Tennessee and Derek and Oregon coming up a little bit Two seven matchup. More phone calls on the way. We'll take a break and Bobby Hurley will join us. I WANNA know bobby was watching the Duke Kentucky game like sit down and I'll down and watch my movies. You know if a sandler movie is on and I'm in it like I'll watch up into the point when I'm not in it and then I go on and do something else I wonder if Hurley all of a sudden goes or maybe somebody in his householders brother says. Hey you're on TV on. Cbs and then you tune into watch it. So we'll talk to him the Arizona head coach Arizona State head coach. Jonas coming up twenty after the hour. This meet Friday or Monday or whatever it is Dan Patrick Show. 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They have nothing to lose their. Have nothing to risk. It's not a moneymaker for the Ivy League and I was like okay. Let's see which is see if it starts to grow and then all of a sudden it went crazy and then it was a week ago today where we came in. And we're talking about Tom. Brady's buck near last week Sean. Payton tested positive. He's in quarantine. Deandre Hopkins got traded to the Cardinal Kevin Durant tested positive Cam Newton Jameis. Winston lost their starting roles in looking for new teams. Philip rivers became a Colt. Nick foles Chicago bear the niners. They traded to force Buckner to the colts Stefan digs became a buffalo bill. Teddy Bridgewater a panther. Todd Gurley Falcon Amari Cooper. That's all in the span of a week now crazy and I remember people saying well. What are you going to talk about? My friends were saying. What are you GonNa talk about it? There's lots of talk about whether it's something happening now. Or maybe something that happened back in Nineteen ninety-two when Kentucky Played Duke. And I think the greatest basketball game I've ever seen and one of the stars of that team is the head coach at Arizona. State Bobby Hurley. Good morning coach. How are you more? Dan? How are you? I'm doing okay? Did you watch the rear of Duke and Kentucky this past weekend I did? I couldn't resist him. What did you notice that you didn't notice before having played in that game just a greater appreciation appreciation for? I think all the shop making especially late in the game All big plays In this day and age with the game of basketball even how much I like my guys to go off the dribble guys like Grammy Bar Alonzo. Virgin I coached that. Have a tremendous ability to create offense off the dribble. Just the all the passing in the game there was The Ball Movement Was was pretty incredible and then It reminded me that that was pretty good in the old man so good but I do too many bad passes tonight some awful turnover soon. I came to well. You hit a big shot. I think the second biggest shot in that game obviously. Leitner shot to win it. But you miss a three rebound back to you. Top of the Kate Nail the three. I thought that was the second biggest shot by by Duke in that game. How did you feel like that was a big big moment? There you know timing of it was certainly but I was I was powered by coach K. He just always gave us a lot of freedom. He trusted us. You know instilled confidence So even after this though there was no hesitation by I made a few big shots in in my career so it was It was something that you know I felt like it was my time to contribute and I think that was the beauty of that team. We had so many guys that could make plays that would step up. You know in in big moments and even coach k. Taught hey if we get along offensive rebound. Let's look out to the three point line. These guys could make shots. Were you disappointed? All leaving the huddle that you weren't going to be part of that. Final play where grant throws the ball to Christian look. I sat with my family with my wife. Leslie my daughters my son and we really never watched that game together and I was so mad at myself for missing my pull up. Jump shots in regulation and But it did help make to make that game even more special. So that's how I looked at it so I had my chance. I didn't cashier and so someone else's turn but nobody guarded grant hill in the baseline. Like I'm still yelling out. Not like the game of course is decades old and I'm going. Nobody's guarding Grant Hill. Nobody knows nobody fronted Leitner and nobody guarded grant. Yeah I think some of it is is a feel thing and and even I do as a coach. I don't have a set guidelines for how to handle that situation I think it's more on the personnel and You know but but it's it's tough when you have a guy that's made every shot in the game and he's straight you're all his free throws and your first instinct is coach. Rick Pitino is like. Don't foul him because the the likelihood of getting a high percentage Shaab without amount of time very low so you can understand why that maybe they didn't do a better job of not letting Christian touch it. Yeah I was just curious that if as a coach would you have if you had one option that you had to pick you either front Christian or you could guard the baseline with Grant Hill's throw but would you? I mean I most likely in that situation. What would have a guy on the basketball but my my best jumper most Lenz to try and even make it a worse. Pass a less accurate pass Without amount of time but again. That's that's up to to every individual. I. I've been burned that way as a coach back in Buffalo in a very similar situation my best player went for steel at the opposite foul line and didn't get it and the player from the Ohio University. You're winning dumped it. The buzzer. So I've had both ends of we're talking to Bobby Hurley Arizona State head basketball coach and they would gone to the NCAA tournament that would have been for the third straight year Stated not done that since the early sixties so about fifty five years. Weren't you the most outstanding player of that final four that we're talking about Ya Dan? I broke my foot in the middle of that season so I missed like three weeks and I was just starting to to get back to to where I was prior to the injury after Christian going ten for ten from the field temper. Temper line thirty. You Know Bobby Knight was a pretty good coach. So he wasn't GonNa let Christian beat them in the national semifinal. I probably had my best game of the season against Indiana enough on afford that you'll we went on and grant was outstanding. Grant Hill and the in the Michigan Game Thomas Hill and Tony. Lang's we've got like a lot of our our other guys or you know that's why we're such a team really stepped up and not final four to help your when Christian was not as fast was Leitner. Upset that you got the Most outstanding player. I don't think so. He's she had enough awards Dan Appreciate you see. He's pretty competitive punches. Pretty Pretty Old. He's he's pretty competitive though body. Yeah but he was a winner man. He just wanted to win and he just really wasn't for him about the numbers and and accolades appreciate it that stuff but it was. It was more about winning. I still fascinated when I watch. I Hate Christian Leitner Guide every year. It just feels like you know. Hey March madness is starting Wednesday I hate Christian Leitner document thirty for thirty coming on. What did you think of it? Well Yeah I mean. Christian was was very polarizing in and You know especially opposing crowds. You would be a magnet for You know their Venom And so I think he enjoyed that role to to to a large degree. He talked about the feeling of of sending everyone home. That just yelled at him for about two hours. He enjoy those last few minutes of those situations. When's the last time you talked to? Coach Guy A while back we kind of attacks more than anything you know. During the season with both super busy you know with everything and So yeah it's it's it's been a while on the phone book. Yes certainly we keep up with some tax. What do you do since you can't get out of the House as a coach? Well I mean it was tough that that lasts day and so much was known about the virus of the impact. It's having so. It's completely understandable understandable. Why the PAC twelve tournament was cancelled. That they were supposed to play. We were there in Vegas ready to play and just being having to go into that room and tell our team that the season's over and all they worked for it was going to be no NCA tournament and you know like touched on. It would have been the first time since nineteen sixty guy like Martin is one of the best players in the PAC twelve. Didn't get a chance to to play in the tax bill tournament or the NCAA tournament Our Seniors you know Rob Edwards Mickey Mitchell that their careers were over and so's the tough day. And and then you just move on it's You know you you stay in touch with the guys. Make sure they're well like we. We have a meeting today with with all the parents on the phone on a conference. Call just to make sure they have all the information that we could provide for them as we go through this. You know difficult time for the country trying to take care of ourselves take care of our players would focus on getting through this you got a basketball hoop but the house. I don't there's a little park down down the way you know my son has been going to. I haven't been able to even you know. Get myself build myself up to go to a court but we plan on on getting out to the to the Alto. Call it again My son and this week when it's nice time you've played a pickup game. I played in at the final four last year. Was it was? It was like a celebrity game And I think my coach was shocked. Shocked and magic. We'll see other coach so it was pretty cool. You know I didn't do very much. I just tried to keep the real basic Just my game is deteriorating. Who Did you pattern your game? After I mean he loves Thomas. I thought I could watch. I tried to use my machinations. Dribble the basketball and you know in my neighborhood. I'd be traveling to the to the park every day and my neighbors talk about. They were so happy when when I went to Duke. Because they don't have to hear you know the ball bouncing up and down the street all the time so. I really gotta joy out of out of dribble the ball and being creative dribble. Yeah good stuff well. I hope you're doing okay. There sorry about the tournament another Great Year for you with twenty wins. But thanks for checking in with us. Bobby you Dan and stay safe and healthy everyone out there divy Hurley Arizona State head. Basketball Coach won two championships at Duke. Ninety one and ninety two. He didn't say too much about Christian later. I think that he just sort of you know they. They survived each other because Christian was really really tough on Bobby Hurley. Really tough to the point where you can have a big brother little brother but probably no love lost there with bobby with even looking back on that is Christian might not have made it enjoyable playing with him. I mean great player. But you know you watched that documentary near Bobby Hurley. Probably tough the all these years where you're GonNa say something Nice about Christian. Yeah Paul Hurley was a fascinating player though because he took a lot of heat and he gave it back to people. He was like you know. He wasn't a pushover in any way. When you'd watchos Do Kylie this guy. Six foot one seventyish. He's not muscular at all. He can't jump obviously but he was eating people up against Kenny Anderson Georgia tech like. He's he's right there. I mean he was a tough kid. Way Grew up in Jersey City and he was used to playing on the playgrounds Jersey City back then was a really tough place and his dad was a legendary high school coach. But in a bobby and Danny Hurley. You know they weren't afraid of anybody. They might not have been as talented but they weren't afraid of anybody and you certainly saw that. Did you get an answer for me with a manual sanders? They're mclovin yeah. He did not get three years in a row on three teams. They're a bunch of no one's ever done that they're a bunch of players who have been in three super bowls with three different teams but never consecutive okay. So he's he played with the steelers. He played with the broncos player. The niners those three super bowls and then if he gets to a super bowl with the saints he'd be the first ever do it with four different teams. I think so I'm GonNa have stats at some of the players by way. Bill Roman add Romanowski Preston Preston Pearson. Berry let's see Harry Swayne. I don't know these guys Rod Woodson to all. We'll take a break last call for phone calls best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked. You didn't like by the way if you're watching on Youtube and we're GONNA play the final meet Friday songs a two versus seven match up. We have a cartoon you know. It's called we cornea damnation and it's a cartoon from the show and it's You know could be an old clip from the show or it could be something recent. You know it Charles Barkley when he was talking about in sync and Joey fatone and Lance Bass with Draymond Green. We have mclovin breaking his glasses. Oh we're going to show that in the live look in damnation. That'll be coming up. We'll take a break last call for phone calls back after this. Do you own rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you're already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you can save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT com once again. It's GEICO easy. Visit GEICO DOT com today. Geico DOT COM. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners. For supporting this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you. And I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show. Page at podcast. One DOT COM clicking on the support. This podcast button and there. You will see all our wonderful sponsors that helped make this show possible. Thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting and now back to the show we just had Bobby Hurley on the former duke all American he won eighteen of Twenty Games in the NCAA tournament. Playing for Duke won the national title in Ninety one ninety two more career minutes than anybody in the history of the tournament and more assists than anybody in the history of the tournament. He ranks in the top. Ten in several categories games wins minutes assists three pointers and steals. So those two losses his freshman year the national title game against UNLV. That was greg. Anthony Stacey Augmon Larry Johnson Anderson Hunt and then his senior year. Second round against cow. That was Jason Kidd and Lemond Murray. But those are the only two losses for Bobby Hurley. All right. I got to meet Friday songs. This is the match up in the Memphis reason region. This is the two verses. Seven here is Scott. The number two in Tennessee with his version. Zo fritzy polio. Everybody gather round Trisha chicken sausage and some stake in the best grill chef. In towns right they be driven so much saw Scott Depot. Looking Ragu trae talking about college basketball. That's cool. Maybe so if I'm grilling everybody. Ghana Chad from traeger. Cooking outta recipe's backroll put some sauce on that like KC masterpiece. Everybody knows that Friday's made Meat Scott in Tennessee with his takeoff on loose. Oh here's Derek and Oregon number seven seed with Old Town road. Dp show yeah fire to check if all the DP show. I can't no more. I got the on the TAB police history facts. Susan's got the Tad's Mario should pass. That's come with the t-bone bothered. Oh won't your grammy something and his son. Chad won't you grammy something Derek in Oregon Old Town road and you can go to the website. We've got the brackets up there and you've got two weeks vote on these songs in the in the first round a couple more phone calls here. By the way I was going through the attic I was sitting around yesterday and then my wife goes doing a clean the attic and I go no and she goes well. You may not want to but you should so all the stuff I have here. I still have Atanas stuff at my house so I go up there to the attic and I'm going through stuff and I find all kinds of stuff and then I see this blue envelope and it says the SP and then it says men's pro basketball now. I was a presenter back. Then I believe with Bill Murray and so the thing was still attached the back part of the sticker and I opened it up and it goes the and the. Sp goes to Michael Jordan. So I for some reason I took the the Envelope home with me with Michael Jordan is the winner. Might my wife always goes you. Why do you keep all this stuff I said for moments like this? This is why I don't think Jordan is going to want. Let's try to send it to them. Everything yeah well. He's GonNa have to give something to me. He wants it he has to come and get fritzy call for Michael Jordan and asking if he wants the envelope from when he won the Sp. Monica SPANK UTAH. Uh let me see. Shawna in Wisconsin. Hey Shawna Hi Dan. I Sean. I'm calling I'm calling in on behalf of our new little boy proud parents with Corbin James from Wisconsin coming in at eight pounds three ounces twenty inches long well congratuations. Sean thank you very much. We appreciate it. He likes to give his best. And worst of the weekend He was really looking forward to watching EP today. After nine months of just listening to these bad jokes and worse than the weekend not being able to watch basketball with Mommy and daddy all right. Well Tell Dad. Congratulations as well Sean. Thank you for the phone call. Stephen Oregon. Hey Steve Hey. Dan Six foot one ninety five very golden waiting years to hear that What are some of the weekend? The passing of K Rogers got to see him in concert at the memorial coliseum. Thirty plus years ago and The Best of the weekend for me is after thirty four and a half years. I am retiring from the postal service as a letter carrier. Well Congratulations Steve. Seton O'Connor certainly understands. How long were you a mailman? Seton TWO YEARS. Maybe not very long. Yeah This Day in sports history. This is a good one Dan. Here's the headline on nine. Hundred seventy two evil knievel memory. The motorcycles evoke an evil broke ninety three bones after successfully jumping thirty five cars. How many bones do you have? If it's a success how you break ninety-three bones if it was a failure how many bones able to died. I how many bones do you have a third of them anything else? That's that's too good. All right this go around the room. What seat are you guys? Feel impressive it goes back to you cleaning out the Your attic but are you feeling pressure to be especially productive during these times where you're sort of stuck at home because my neighbor's yard looks like a million bucks. All they've been doing is raking their leaves and stuff and I've been sitting in watching movies and I'm starting to feel that pressure in the house of like. Maybe I should be doing more. My wife wants to do beehives. Like it's just it's out of hand but what does that mean. She wants to get bees and have honey. I said you already got it right here. Yeah she's I won't bees and I said no no. No no sorry go horribly wrong. Yep Oh my wife's Food I can you give me a beer. You're the best I'll marry you again So I guess it was a success. The Home Studio. Would you todd in? His his office had a tough. First album rallied. A little bit you did you did you got you know the microphone works better when you turn it on a really does and don't lean into it. 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Bobby Hurley, Arizona St. HC

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Bobby Hurley, Arizona St. HC

"This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy shop. We are honored to be joined by someone who knows what the final four is all about. If anyone does he played in it three times. Winning two national titles is a pleasure to welcome to the sporting life, the one and only the great do point guard. Bobby Hurley, Bobby thank you for being with us. Go problems. Every now Bobby, of course, as head coach, Darin a state where you have had unprecented unprecedented. If I could speak properly success the last years you were hoping to be playing in the final four yourself this weekend that did not happen. But you guys made the tournament you lost in the first round your old team buffalo. What was that like for you? Yeah. It was it was a roller coaster really starting with our last three regular season games. We were we needed to win as down the stretch. To put ourselves position to get the NCAA tournament. We lost Oregon, and we and going to Oregon state and get into great win. And then and then winning our Sonal the last regular season game was real confidence boost or you know, for for the program and got the number two seed and get a bye in the conference tournament beat UCLA in the quarters, and we lost a heartbreaking overtime game to Oregon again that was playing at a really high level eight season, and that put us in a position to have to you know, sweat it out a little bit until the last BRAC came out on Sunday. But we were thrilled to be in the tournament. And you know last year we were in we didn't get a chance to win a basketball game. And and this year, we take another step and and winning in Dayton. And you know, the buffalo game was difficult. They're they're really team won thirty two games and had a lot of seniors. And so that was a tough game for us. But that's what it's. About it's about taking steps as a program and and building off that. And that's we hope to do next year. I should say you did win a game. I I get confused with the nomenclature Bobby that's called a play in game still. But I guess technically the first round was was the buffalo game. And a lot of those guys over there guys that you knew, but you burst onto the scene as a freshman at Duke it's twenty nine years ago when you made your final four debut, you freshman at Duke starting the fall of nineteen eighty nine it was a different world back. Then we knew who the players were because many the best one stuck around off for years. It was different kind of situation. We weren't talking about one in done. Everybody knew Bobby Hurley, everybody knew Christian Leitner. Everybody knew you know, the following year. You know, we Grant Hill came along for you that formative experienced losing in the in the championship game is a freshman UNLV how big an impact that make. On you. Actually, it was a lot of pain and suffering. And and you million you get humbles like that and stage with that many is on the game twenty million people watching they watch the worst version of yourself, and you know, as a competitor, it was tough to take you. He felt humiliated out there times. And remember coach K left me in, you know, at the later stages of the game kind of maybe the soak in, you know, all the misery of how I probably felt that that woman just once I got over that. And my confidence took a hit. I think initially for a few weeks just got back to work. And I think it it drove me more drove my teammates more so to wanna get better. And and hopefully redeem ourselves at some point Bobby your your journey though from that that experience which you took so hard is a freshman to what happened your sophomore you with the epic upset of. One of the great teams ever symbol d- in the history of college basketball team, the jury arcane, Ian had assembled which was probably even stronger than the team that defeated you guys in the national title game the year before can you put into words what it was like to be on the court against them again year later in the final four just think painted a younger to that. That was really fun. And it's best friend season. We have taken some hits to them away. That's twenty four to Carolina AC tournaments lead against the NCAA tournament. But once we got through the first game, I think we started playing like a much higher level than we were at any point that season. The addition of Grant Hill is going to change any team immediately. You know, the that gave me more confidence as a player that I had that guy in the program going into these wars, you know, Christian was was a year older. As a junior at that point and playing like when we're best players in college basketball. So we had ran through our region and one, you know, by double figures in almost every game you've been pretty dominant. So we were confident, and then, you know, we had a dish motivation, you know, that came right in and and told us we could win. And and you know, he said it in a way that that we believed that and we got the work and put a good game pleading coach K put on believable game pleading. You have any like Leitner to get thirty points in a game that helps, but it was it's everything we had to beat that team. They were so good, and they were winning, you know, they all that whole year and they won the championship the year before. So they expected to win and they had you know, they had that team. So it was a heck of a battle. It was one of greatest games that I involved with this in terms of quality of play. Way, you know. And so I just I listen prize at the end when I got that last rebound and the clock inspired like if the game this can't really be happening on over. And it was it was such a great feeling. Yeah. You you were looking for for some place to go with the rebound. They had to tell you the game was over. Yeah. Was still driven is just a, you know, just your stun. You're so excited like what you dream of you know, a young kid playing. So being that spot where you're playing against the team so invincible, and you know, you you play as close to perfect maybe as you could play as a group to to win a game. Like that is so so satisfying. Now, we're speaking with Bobby Hurley the head coach Arizona state another successful season out there. And I were expect you to say, this is still a your life. You're still in the game that it's not what it was. But for someone like me a little bit older than you. I'm forty nine Dc site -ment around college basketball in that era in large part because you and your teammates, and those EPA games you guys played against UNLV and Michigan and others is the same now or how has it changed in last thirty years? Yeah. I just I mean in that way that you see these stars. You know that that you get to watch even for me as a young kid. I got to watch Michael Jordan nigga game winning shot. I got to see Patrick Ewing play in the final four which Ord town. I you know and Villanova upset Georgetown. I got to see NC state upset Houston. Like all these tremendous final fours. I think my first final four was that. I remember was was Larry Bird. I magic, you know. So I got to see all these these great events. You know, great final fours associated, you know, with the NCAA tournament, and it was just became a dream of mine. Like can I ever do enough? Can I can I ever as a player get to that point where I'm playing in a final four? And and I think it was similar in my era. Just with guys will wanna stay year or two just wasn't a culture too. You know for players to look to want to go to the NBA, and that landscapes changed dramatically, but I don't think it's taken away from you know, how badly you know, teams wanna compete. Eat and their fan bases. Get excited enthusiastic about the tournament. And just all the great things that that the NCAA tournament means to so many people your aunt Arizona state, obviously now is the head coach. But Duke is still a big part of your heart. Your oldest went to do you were legend there. What were you feeling when when Michigan state won last weekend? Yeah. Just it's again, it's it's it's the it's the the heartbreak, you know, that you feel when when the seasons, and you could see it, you know, with a lot of players and the closer you get to the dream of playing on a final four the the tougher. It is to you know, to lose to have have those feelings and the hurt that's societas with it. But you know, you could see that it was it was two teams that they're, you know, high level Teves that very competitive game. And it just comes down to who can make a few more plays. And that's why there's such a fine margin. The tween advancing winning a championship. And and you know, just being one of a bunch of teams that didn't accomplish that. It's it's amazing. I mean, I just got greater appreciation just being a coach for the number of years. I've been a coach and seeing how hard it is to advance to a tournament and get your team ready to win. I think I had a really unrealistic perspective as a player, you know. This is pretty easy. We're gonna go to tournament. We're gonna win a lot of games playing for national championship. And so much goes into it so difficult. It was a reminder of of how hard it is to advance as as talented teams. You might have if you're not at your peak, you know, on the day that you need to be at the time. Then then, you know, someone else's moving on we talked about that first title you one when you were soft more in nineteen Ninety-one, you guys repeated the next year against Michigan. And a lot of people were talking about those Michigan team. This year because of the spectacular freshman, the fab five what was going on at your alma mater this year, those remarkable freshman as well what parallels? Did you see between the freshman this year Duke in those guys that you defeated for that second consecutive national title back in nineteen Ninety-two? Yeah. I mean, it's those guys are so Vance. I mean, they they don't play like freshman. They look like for built like freshman. I had one of those type of guys and against or who I I was blessed to coach this year. That's a freshman that you know, doesn't look anything like freshman. So talented says, and I think players are just more advanced as more cutting edge techniques of how to you know, develop earlier and become better earlier. You know, I needed every bit of my freshman year before I stopped playing like a freshman. You know, these guys walked in the door right away, you know, Barrett and. And zone, and and you know Jones, and and they made in reddish all their impact. And they were ready for, you know, the highest levels college basketball and really made their Mark on on it the season. It was it was exciting. Watching those guys when I could what is it gonna take your program? You know, you're doing things that have not been done in a generation there at state is the head coach, but you've seen up close. Obviously as a player would it takes to get all the way, how close are you? Well, I mean, it's for us. It's it's a process and having guys like silence. You them this year who was a graduate. I was transferred from San Diego State that one year with us that is going to have opportunities professionally what he mentor program in terms of his communication is tangible 's his commitment to work his desire to get better. All the winning quality bought, you know, he brought to the table. We have to continue to find. Players like him. And you know, I will say that, you know, we brought in a good class with Remmy more, and and camonte Lawrence and Rabelo white, you know, all freshman and sophomore instead of experienced two straight years of NCA tournament appearances. And there she oh able to win a game in tournament. So that was become the new standard here. And I think for us to again, we talked about as a program, we need to make a move in the conference, you know, we can't be in the middle of the pack anymore. So this year, we knew we won twelve games in in in the conference and and finished second in the league to Washington. So we're we're making progress we just gotta keep keep taking steps. And we're we're we're understanding what it takes to win. You know in these tournaments and big games beating Kansas. This year was was a big win for us in the non conference so just continuing to try and make strides and continue to bring players in the program that that expect to win and and wanna play say term. You know, Bobby you come from a place in highschool where basically you never lost a place in college. Where you rarely lost? You know, it's different situation going into a program that needs to be a restarted and reconfigured and you're working on it. How how do you deal with the losing that comes with the process of getting great? Well, it's it's. The first two years you'd never accept losing. But but you could tolerate it. If if you players are competing, and and giving you everything they have, and you may not have the right mix agais that you need as a coach your vision of how you wanna play in order to get it to where you need to get it. And I think those first two years were struggle in that regard. But I still felt that our players competed and gave me everything that I had in those years, and as we were able to recruit and upgrade our talent than we were in a position to to have the combination of competitive drive, and and work ethic, and and then you know, the talent to win. And then then you have to learn how to win you gotta learn how to break through and and beat the top to your in your league. And and to, you know, win at places like Allen Fieldhouse, or you know, we've won a couple of of holiday tournaments in November the last two. Year. So just continue to reinforce that to make that the standard. And and but at the same time losing, you know for me, I don't tolerate it. And you can learn some lessons if you lose the right way, sometimes going out lock say solids. You know, we did everything we could I saw that you gave everything you had. And if that's not the case, then then you have to be, you know, you have to address it, and everyone has to have accountability to it. And they have to see how painful it is for me to to lose. And what that means and to be uncomfortable, if we lose, so they'll all those things, I think are pretty visible if you're around, you know, me and my coaching staff. I can vouch for that, Bobby. It's not a good place to be in your locker room after lots Bobby Hurley is the subject of the east sixty documentary Hurley, which is available on demand on ESPN. Plus, and I gotta say Bobby one of my favorite things in that documentary that we did which is I love that show. But one of my favorite things that a lot of people responded to the great shot of you, add Danny your brother now, the head coach you at the time the head coach at Wagner when you were in his staff, and you guys reacting simultaneously to perceive to be a a bad. Call. And of course, everybody knows your father, Bob, the hall of fame coach from Saint Anthony now that you guys are separated by basically, the full continent meeting you and your brother and your dad who are the east coast you dad's now retired. How do you guys communicate with each other about what's going on with your program is it you can't be in the same place reacting at the same time? But what's it like? Yeah. I mean, we do we have so much the same mannerisms, you know, even even my players they were kinda like creeped out like when Dan was in Dayton in a new you was great to come out. And and and give up some time that he needed to recruiting to to see our Saint John's game, and they not only his physical appearance just how he walks how he talks and the whole thing. Like our players got a chance to meet him a couple of guys on the floor after game. And they they commented to me like, wow, I can't believe like he's just like you talks. Like you like you. It's crazy but on. Yeah. We talked down. I talk all the time about our programs and just really everything, you know, we we would probably be five or six days a week that there were on the phone downton ID is off about a program things. Relative to what we're doing and Dan's more in a situation. I was in like my first two years where you know, you kind of venting about issues and things he's got to change because you know, he's gonna turn that program around at uconn. I have no doubt about it. It's gonna be it's gonna be a special place like it was many years ago in the near future. Is it a pleasure, Bobby? It always is speaking with you. Thanks so much for joining us here in the sporting life for our final four special and hope to speak again soon down the road Virgo. Jeremy enjoyed it. Thanks on. I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.

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05/27: Mac McClung picks Texas Tech, but will he be eligible? Plus: Pissed off Bobby Hurley, and remembering Eddie Sutton's HOF career

CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast

1:14:04 hr | 4 months ago

05/27: Mac McClung picks Texas Tech, but will he be eligible? Plus: Pissed off Bobby Hurley, and remembering Eddie Sutton's HOF career

"Hey there it's scary Peres. Wins Day may twenty seven two thousand twenty welcome back to the CBS Sports College Basketball Podcast? Where we sometimes discuss cable fighting an leaky black norlander is here with me. And I guess we'll just start with what feels like the most significant news of the day. Macau has transferred from Georgetown to Texas Tech. Another nice pickup for Chris. Beat AUBURN MEMPHIS. Usc BYU ARKANSAS. In wake forest land the instagram sensation so norlander. We'll get right into it. Here's the question. Do you think Mac McClellan will get a waiver to play immediately in Lubbock? No I don't believe that McClellan will get the waiver you have I believe what is the definitive column on Magma Clung to Texas Tech? That's available right now on the Internet. Let me see you back up one with the column but to just keep in mind for everyone that there is another player that's guard that's high profile. That already transferred out James Kinjo he's at Arizona. We don't yet know if Kim just further along the waiver clearance process than MC lung. But it wouldn't surprise me perish if Akin Joe is further along if whatever decision he gets from the waiver process was the same as MC lungs. But the answer your question. I don't believe that Maclean will cleared. I think he will sit a season and then play for Texas Tech in two thousand twenty one. Twenty two twenty two. But what say you and you touched on it in a column so enlightened thought. The first thing I would say is that it's it's baffling to me. How people in our profession report on these transverse because one one nine Grad train? Okay so everybody understands the deal with transfers your Grad transfer. You're going to transfer. You're GONNA play immediately clear. Cut and and then there's everybody else and everybody else by rule is a quote unquote sit out transfer. So it's just wild to me to watch like one guy who was a quote unquote sit out? Transfer were announced he's committing to some school and people go you know. He has committed to this school. He has to sit out next year. But you'll play. He'll sit out one and have to to play and then like a player with the exact same situation. Dreams for this is a transfer and go. Oh He's GonNa be really good. Protective texting season. Are you guys just handing out waivers on twitter you call? Are you calling me out because I tell you what this is what I actually did this unintentionally but I got my four year old crawling on my shoulder and I see the news and I'm just like hold on hold on hold on? I'm just going to send out a tweet about Mac McClellan and then I'm like Oh yeah you freaking idiot. He might not even be so. I did what you're talking about. I know but it's not. It might have been you but it's not just you almost everybody and it and they're not consistent with it at all. It'll be like well. This player is transferring. He'll sit out next season. And then there's a player with the exact same set of circumstances would transfer and be like. Ooh That's a big get for next season's team looks like what we like. You can't handle waivers on twitter. You can say he has a good chance to get away or why you think he's going to get a waiver but just a signing players to next year's roster who sit out transfers is wild to me and yet it happens all the time. My favorite was our buddy. Jeff could today so this this nerd tweets magma clone transfer. It's official going to Texas tech going. Be Really Great. With the Red Raiders. Next season or something like that and then literally comes back four minutes later and says a nobody knows for sure if mcleans go to get a waiver. They're just assuming you're talking about. You're you're the one doing that if he was criticizing like it was a tweet designed to criticize. Adams the GORIA or something. But he was like he was taking aim directly at his previous tweet. I don't even know what's going on. I ha just make clear. I want to get the scoreboard clear. Here you got a problem with people handing out handing out waivers on twitter. But you're okay with giving yourself a doctorate on a podcast. I am Doctor. And a rising star in the field of meteorologist. I just WanNa make sure all right. I'm not saying I'm consistent across saying I got these things that I'm okay with other things that I'm not like if we're going to discuss it out. Transfers by NCWA rule currently employs. Let's just all discuss it in the same way. This is a player who just announced. He's going to that school unless he gets a waiver. He'll have to sit out. That's fine but like all the time it's he's going to be great nick season. We just decided he's GonNa get away. We're were like you already figured that out. What are we doing so anyway? That's just by by bothers me but I understand. It probably only bothers me. So let's get back to your question. Do you think mark McLaughlin is going to get a waiver to play immediately next season? My answer you ready for this. I don't know but I will say he seems to have set the groundwork for a compelling case which is the point I made with the column when he announced a couple of weeks ago that he was leaving Georgetown. He was asked for his reasoning. And this is what he said quote. It was a number of different events that made me feel. I had no choice but to transfer from Georgetown. I really wanted to stay but things throughout my career made me realize that I couldn't in other words and this is the point I've made before I made in the column today. Like that's the way you do it. You don't start talking about playing time or I want a bigger stage. I WANNA play point guard. You say there were things that happened. That made me feel like I couldn't be there anymore now. Does he have actually have examples of those things or documented examples of those things? I don't know is he being sincere? I couldn't say for sure but I will say the fact that he stayed away from any sort of basketball reason at all and his publicly known reasoning for leaving. Georgetown is rooted in different events. That made him feel. He had no choice but to transfer that sets yourself up to get a waiver. Now we'll see if he can submit these events in a convincing way to the incident of play but I guess the main point of the column was just if you're a basketball player thinking about transferring cut and paste that statement. Because that's where you start if you start talking about like landers. Nali transferred to Memphis. He's interviewed by by Memphis media and he's like I just felt like I was playing at a position at Virginia Tech. I'm a guard like you should never say that you are. You're submitting tying your reasoning to basketball reasons. That's how you waiver gets denied. Olivier saw talks about couldn't pass on the. I'm paraphrasing here but talks about like how awesome it be to play at Kentucky which would be but. That's not a good enough reason to get a waiver to play immediately so. I don't know what's going to happen with MAC MC long but I just know that he laid a foundation to build a case on in a in. What is I think a pretty intelligent way? Sarah also said that if he doesn't the waiver that he'll have intentions to play basketball. No matter what next season so that would be professional route as well which Certainly wouldn't seem to help his case. Overall it is interesting. We also have to acknowledge that because of the cove in nineteen era that we are in predicting these things becomes a little bit of a fool's errand because we don't yet know how the instability is going to react. When it comes to this stuff. We have an interesting weaver situation. Just a few here but just keep that in mind as just real quick whether he plays next season or not going. Texas Tech is interesting. I would have been most excited to see play at Byu. Because I think that would have potentially opened him up for the biggest kind of offensive firepower. Green light kind of situation but for all we know MC lung one. He's going to coach. Who's well established as one of the best in the game and Crispier? Only you know five seasons in as a d. one head coach and he's done wonders for his reputation. There maybe he is going to be that committed on the defensive end. This doesn't seem like a surefire win for both parties. I don't think I think he can be good. Listen Mc Lung Average fifteen point seven points three point one boards two point four assists and he shot thirty nine percent from the field at Georgetown and he was a volume player out of desire but also became a volume player out of downright necessity. Once Kinjo bounced and left after seven games last season. So I don't know I don't really know of Texas tech whether he's GonNa play next season or the season after that if they're going to have the right kind of guy on or off ball to totally complement Tim so for the Texas Tech Fans that have checked in here just to get a take on McLaughlin how he fits with crispy system like I think that he will be a fine player but I don't think he is the kind of addition no matter when he is going to play and for how long that will be one or two years. We'll have two years left availability regardless that he's going to be the kind of guy that flip Texas tech season and makes them into a surefire final four contender. Anything like that. Nice player needs better defensively. You have to play hard. If you'RE GONNA play for crispier clung has a really awesome motor. I think he'll be fine piece but I'm not convinced that he's going to wind up. We're GONNA look a year from now for. That's what he's planning or two years now. Gp and Oh yeah. This was one of the two or three best year fire transfers. I'm not quite there a colleague. David Cobb is kind of with me so just keep that in mind going forward but but it was an intriguing intriguing commitment on the lesson will wait to see how long we even find out when it comes to these waivers to keep that in mind as well. It can be a long process and I wouldn't suspect I would not suspect that we'll have any answer on MC lung. I'm going to be conservative here. Gp I like. I'm talking like mid August at the earliest. I wouldn't think who knows. There's no timeline to follow on whether you gonNA waiver or not. Sometimes they drift into season and the Johnny juicing situation that will get to in a minute captain for you on May twenty seventh. What seems incredibly early. I don't know anything about the timeline timeframe but I do agree with you about Mc long as a player like listen. He's a nice player. You don't go to Georgetown and then have options to transfer to Texas Tech Memphis Auburn. Usc Byu Arkansas. Wake forest. If you're not a nice player you can't score fifteen point seven points per game in the Big East if you're not a nice player but that said is more famous than he is great probably probably and why is that. Well incredible high school career. Let's be honest. Little White Guy who dunks played at Georgetown he's Instagram. Celebrities got hundred thousand followers on instagram. Because he's a little white guy who dunks so I think he's more famous than than great but still good but but like this was the biggest college basketball headline today probably And I it if he if he goes to Texas tech well he ever be the best player on a good Texas tech team. I'm not convinced that GP neither me. Neither but I will tell you I wrote that column and it's already gotten about seven times as many views as a normal column So there's an audience. There is a lot of people know who this is. And it's May twenty seventh. Might as well write something but I thought it was interesting that the you know the listen I know when a great column Okay Columnists. It's perfectly reasonable column. But it's not like seven times better than what I wrote last week but it has gotten seven times more views already and I think that speaks to the celebrity of Mack. Mclarty HE IS HE IS A. He's more well known than he is. Great but still. Let's not get a twisted crispier. You take him and you're glad you got without a doubt a real quick before we move on. I do we. Should we should note here. I mean it's been a few days since a case five days we learned but Patrick Ewing Contract COVID nineteen Contracted coronavirus was diagnosed with coach. Nineteen That was on Friday heading into the long Memorial Day weekend. He has since returned home. Which is great to hear. It's obviously been a rough go for ewing. I guess in general Because he had to live through the documentary then agree to about five or six interview talking. About how great Michael Jordan was beat him in college obviously and then the next could never get past. Mj In the Bulls specifically their loses McCloy was a whole bunch of kids to transfer Georgetown. I think is easily easily going to be the worst in the big next season here. Noble Clung a huge Stinger. He had mentioned he'd gone on record to say McLaughlin the draft process. But he's GonNa come on back to school. Obviously that's not happening there but at the top of the list though glad to hear. That ewing is recovering Apparently recovering well from having contracted the virus but that when when one of the greatest college basketball players. I'm really one of the fifty best. Nba players of all time and one of the few active head coaches contracts corona virus. That's legitimate headline just happened to land right heading into three day weekend. I do WANNA bring that up real quick touching on leaving. Georgetown glad to see that. He is better. But in basketball. Sense Ewing has a lot of work to do. He is a huge rebuild ahead of them and now trying to get any sort of momentum to build next to next one two or three years I know Georgetown fans are kind of hurting with this. Because it's not going as well as they had hoped and the clung stuff as we sit here talking about it. They're sitting there thinking well. Let's flashback to where we were back in November. Gp All eight months ago. When really looked like Georgetown was going to be sending to something of a decent season completely flames. And now the program you can easily make. The argument is probably as bad. If not worse position now than it was when you took it over it just shows you are is a reminder of how delicate this profession is for these guys like it really did feel like in the NBA players. Coming back to coach through a modern like. It hasn't always been great. Chris Mullin at Saint John's was not great but it felt like Patrick was like right about to turn the corner like had it really close to becoming relevant again and then it just blows up on it and some of it happened midseason. Obviously the mccomb thing happens after the season and now isn't a bad spot. Obviously is health is the most important thing that's the priority but You know after that is a you know in his past and he's up and running again he's got a basketball a historically great basketball program to run and you're exactly right. It's in it's in a bad place right now and that's not good for college basketball. We don't need to spend much time on this any more time than the on this but it is better when Georgetown Matters. That's a big brand from my childhood and the idea that it might be finished last in the big east next season. That's just not where Georgetown basketball could be. Should be so hopefully do this like Patrick. It's better and I hope that he gets that program back on track one way or another. We mentioned another transfer who surprisingly. I think already got a waiver to play immediately next season. That's Johnny juicing at Ucla. We're GONNA get into that next but first let me remind you that college football is inching closer which means is the perfect time to unveil offseason rankings. And that's what the Cup three podcast doing one episode at a time this week. I don't know if you've been following that. But they're dedicating fifteen minute episodes every day counting down the top. Five Georgia was number five on Monday. Oklahoma and before on Tuesday Alabama number three today so I guess by process of elimination. They're down to Ohio and Clemson for the top two five unless you think what is going to be southern miss or something. So those episodes they're to wouldn't that be something other missiles number two. Elian the guys. That'd be great so those episodes are drafted. Thursday Friday number one number two on Thursday number one on Friday and like I said they're an easy. Listen just roughly fifteen minutes each so go. Check out the cover three podcasts. If you haven't already downloaded subscribe on Apple podcasts spotify stitcher and wherever else podcasts are found so Johnny Dude Giuseppe got a a waiver to play immediately which might not independent of everything else be the most surprising thing in the world but the idea that he got it on. May Twenty seven. That is a little bit surprising. How did they knock that out so quickly? I think I have an answer to the question of the question. Go Pretty Simple People. The answer to the question. Why did ask somebody connected to the whole situation like a good for you because I always root for the players to get waivers I? It's crazy that they have to so. I'm never disappointed when somebody actually gets one but I a little surprise. Sometimes when people get them and especially surprise what had happened to May twenty seventh. What I was told is that from the NC Double A.'S PERSPECTIVE. It was a softball case and the case was rooted in this. Johnny using is from Southern California lives like fifteen minutes grew up fifteen minutes from UCLA campus. He was in school at Kentucky. Pandemic hits he wants to get back closer to home. Any literally. Early goes as close to home as he could get which is. Ucla young man during a pandemic. You want to be closer to your family. That's fine with us. Stay up approval. You get a waiver to play immediately now. If we're being honest we think Johnny dusing really transferred back home because of the pandemic like the way I would apply for the waiver as well but like it's also true that he didn't play very much. It's a freshman probably wasn't gonNA play very much as a sophomore. He was going to get out of there anyway and I think it's interesting that he might have done exactly what he was going to do. In fact I think probably would have even without the pandemic which is leave. Kentucky go to Ucla but because of the pandemic you can say well. That's really why I did it. And what does the instead? We're GONNA do argue with your motive. So they stamped it. He's good to go good for him but it is an interesting situation. It is an interesting situation. I got a question for you John Wooden Ever GonNa sit out transferring eligible. No I read the wikipedia. I read the set Davis Book and it wasn't in there anyway. Johnny Jews Zang's getting immediately eligible in nineteen sixty seven are they. Hey old timers tell me give me an example of John. Wooden Johnny dusing eligible in May sit out. Transfer turned into an immediate player. Just like that that he thought John Wooden on the sidelines and twenty twenty right now you throw Johnny choosing in his backyard. He doesn't know what to do. He doesn't he's lost. He does not know how to handle this. Mick Cronin I mean. Parents gave a nice answer but come on. We know everyone knows the real answer here macron and he got it done. You know what the rules don't apply and that's going to be forever the case with Mick Cronin at Ucla because this world is going to go away next year he's going to be batting thousand at UCLA. Sit Out transfers you. Mick Gangsta. Love Janis by the way average. Two point nine points. One Point Nine Rebounds Play Twenty eight percent of Kentucky's minutes. I would be listen. I'm sure he the formerly obviously a well rounded player he gets to Kentucky. That's kind of the deal there. He had a couple of moments. I think in a UK uniform where I could say. Yeah Dude seems like he's good. I have no idea how much of an impact he's going to make a good on. Ucla in getting him though because if he can tap into something that can provide potential eight points ten points points a game obviously. Ucla would really prefer to have that after losing. They don't play the same position or anything. But you know you get what you can get. Here they lose Dacian Knicks now. They get juicing immediately eligible good on him but what you did say is important to keep in mind when we talked about Mac McClellan and James Kinjo in any other high profile guy out there that you wanna that you WANNA pick out. That's going to apply for a waiver if they are not transferring back home truly back home to a school exceedingly close choosing you say grew up fifteen minutes away that might be nor star for anyone. That's seeking immediate eligibility in college. Basketball suggest be sure to To keep that in mind and if we look up at the end of October November whenever the season is about to start and most of these waivers have been handled. A common thread there. I wouldn't be surprised. Giuseppe is just the first we wait and see philly the last but like every. Here's the problem because I had a radio show this afternoon Memphis and they were like some listeners. Like hey if the kid from Kentucky got a a waiver to play immediately at UCLA. Then what about landers molly or Andre Williams because Memphis has to sit out transfers right now? Who both of them would probably start from emphasis at this point like they. They matter lender. Sallie averaged fifteen points per game the ACC and the problem is landers knowledge from Atlanta transferred to Memphis. It's not really any closer than Virginia. Tech is and the Andre Williams is from Houston transferred to Memphis if he wanted to play the pandemic guard he needed to call Kelvin Sampson and go to Houston Not Memphis. So it's interesting like it just works perfectly for juicing but the idea that it's going to work the pandemic quote unquote pandemic is going to work. Perfectly for all other transfers or even most of the transfers. I'm I'm not sure I see that. Yeah the you could be correct about that. And I assume we're going to this player next week when he expected to commit. Who was a twenty twenty one top ten guy reclassified twenty twenty and so classmates with my son? That's right we've talked about on the before. That's that's correct so anyway. Untutored him so well that he was able to get out of high school a year early. Put that on your college application. You got to be breaking the skits commitment okay. Thank you know what I'll be completely honest with. Stayed completely out of it and the reason is because fans are crazy it is true. It's not only that my son moved to go to the same school. They were in the same year. They were both juniors this year and they were in the same classes and my son literally helped tutoring after school. Sometimes right and so let. My son could text him right now. I'm I'm assuming that you're certainly hit him up on snapchat or something like their their best friends. Movies never been to my house but they know each other and so my fans are so crazy. Here's what would happen if he goes to Memphis Kentucky fans will be Parish had a was it using his son and what if IT GOES TO KENTUCKY MEMPHIS FANS will be the same memphis terrorist hates his alma mater and he pushed because he loves John. Calipari pushed him to Kentucky. Like people are just wacko. They Co doesn't matter. What would happen somehow? Somebody would want to say I had a role when make it happen? So I'm like I haven't even asked. I actually asked my son today. Did you see or did you hear that moves to finally reclassified? He said Yeah I saw it and then I left it there. I didn't what do you think he's going to do or have you talked to him about it. I don't even I didn't want to get involved. You might have a rough next week coming for you though because like people people I swear to God like whether it's message boards or social media or like a facebook fan page. I don't see most of it because I just I. Just stay away from it but I. I'm not exaggerating. Eighty percent of the things I read about myself not about my columns or about my radio show but like hey I heard Gary Perez said this or did this. I'm not exaggerate. Eighty percent of it is completely made up. Like there's no truth to it whatsoever but these people have a unique ability to just imagine things and so when there is actually a situation where my son is classmates with the five star prospect? I was like I don't I don't I never met those see say and I have no intention of doing it. And delivery pigs college man connections all over the place. Josh Perish. Obviously your half brother going to play for San Diego which is a big news. We talked about last week on the pod and now Mussa say who is expected to make his announcement next week But anyway the bring the only reason why I brought him. We'LL PROBABLY NOT PROBABLY. We'll talk about a more next week If when he does commit For MEMPHIS Particular situation if he does go there. It will lessen the blow because I personally don't see how a player like landers gnarliest eligible. I think that you are going to have him sit. And then he'll be available and eligible to get on the court a year from now aside from that. I think I'm tapped out on johnny juice. Content my man. Then let's move on to another pack. Twelve school bobby. Hurley hates his Athletic Director. Or at least he did back in. December. We'll get into that next. But first check us out. Oh yes you boy. Bc HOSTS OF THE STATE OF COMBAT WITH BRIAN. 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We have in the twenty four seven sports office every week. Subscribe to the Barton and Bud show wherever your podcast? So there was an interesting story published. By Pete Thamel. Yahu sports he published an email sent from Bobby Hurley to Arizona. State Athletic Director Ray Anderson Again. The email coming in December in which Hurley accuses his athletic director of having quote disregarded safety. And show no sensitivity towards the women that have experienced sexual assault in quote. Bobby also in that same email told Anderson. He felt like he'd been lied to. And this is all connected to a situation that broke earlier in the season earlier. In this year I believe does a guiding bar wear who is a or was a Arizona. State Booster Guy. Sounds like a real creep boat three different women. One of whom is Bobby? Hurley's wife accused him of sexual harassment. Now to be fair to Bart wear. He denies the allegations. He's suing Arizona State for damaging his reputation to the tune of like five million dollars. But let's just keep it real. You think three different women are lying on this dude. I don't and now Bobby Hurley is pissed or at least he was pissed. I should say bobby released a statement here on Wednesday night that read this way. My relationship with director Ray Anderson today is strong and we will work together alongside. My outstanding coaching staff toward the continued. Success of Sunday will men's basketball so the most important word in that statement is today. My relationship is strong today because on the day that he sent this email which I believe was December seven. It wasn't strong. He was flat out accusing Athletic Director of a whole bunch of stuff. And doing that knowing bobby. See Bobby popping off in person when you sit in that email you are creating a paper trail intentionally like you're you're creating a paper trail intentionally so you can have what you want on the record. And it's almost looked like he was setting up a situation where I think I think power play you right now and get you out of here and this is the first step in doing exactly what. I thought when I saw this. Okay and also really good on on Bobby Hurley to do this. Frankly like you know you don't get extra get extra credit for for paying your taxes watching your kids or sticking up for your wife. I get all that. But if we put ourselves in his shoes and most other men would just be enraging. Absolutely infuriating to the point of like boiling anger. Okay the kind of treatment that significant other would would would fall under allegedly. So but yeah. I thought you know what bobby can run hot. He's developed a reputation that in the coaching realm. In some ways it's very entertaining endearing comical. At sometimes he goes overboard but he is super super passionate. I actually think he's the wilder of the to early brothers and each of them have have their own quirks. There's no doubt about it but when I did see this I thought all right. He's rightfully pissed off and he is definitely setting up a path year. To where if stuff if more stuff comes out or if he knows more that what was even then what was even forth year. That's even known to the public now. he is setting up a way to if he thinks that he did. He shouldn't have the athletic director that he should. And he and Bobby Bobby. Hurley has already established himself as one of the two or three best coaches in the history that program. I think relatively easily at this point Then then he would have had a case. Now it's good to hear that their relationship to day is good. And hopefully all is operating. Well there within Arizona State. But this was I just I found this to be obviously compelling because the subject. Y'All you normally don't get this kind of stuff out in this kind of way it can be made public through foia obviously and through other Through other things but yes I thought it was very interesting. And obviously the the alleged behavior involved here is is grotesque. And you've got a situation with a booster who's going way over the line and the fact that you know his wife and the other two were ever subject to this is completely unacceptable. The the the the booster to put some details on what he is accused of doing. So there's named David Cohen. Who was an associate ad At Arizona State he worked directly with the men's basketball program. He got fired after he reported the harassment. He's filed a lawsuit and accused the athletic Anderson of covering up but one of the allegations. David Cohen is a is that. So they're out of Arizona State game. It was packed with tournament and his wife is sitting on the same row as Mart wear and you can just imagine you're sitting on a you're sitting on a I own a basketball game and you gotta get up to get to the to get out of the aisle you've got. You're sitting on a road to get to the got pass people that we've all done that a million times. And so she's walking past him. And this creepshow allegedly puts both of his hands on her hips on her sides and then runs his hands up her side to her breasts and then looks at her and says Dave is lucky to have you like. That's incredible like I don't even know how you. How could you be comparable doing that right? You know when you hear this kind of stuff on top of just the completely demoralizing fearing fury eating stuff that we see in the new like it's just like I can't just I just can't where do people get off. I just don't understand how you could ever ever ever ever. I just understand. Gp Just it's just not compatible with my mindset like how could you ever act like that with a woman? Who is in your own life? You know just unbelievable. It's so it's three different women. One of the Dave cowens wipe is one Bobby Hurley. His wife is another another woman. Connected to the program was another. They all accuse him of different things but all under the same umbrella of sexual harassment. So let's go back to this email that Bobby Hurley sent. So it's December seven. They just want a game and I can. I can picture it bobbies on fire after the game because as bobby tells the story. The athletic director had come to a practice earlier in the week. And by the way that it's been months since Bart wear had allegedly done. These things and bobby already upset about the whole thing because he didn't feel like it was being handled properly but the eighty comes to him and says listen here you. He's not going to be to. He's not GonNa be around basketball program anymore. We'll keep warm and then in that same week. Is this bar. Where character shows up at an Arizona state game and he's sitting like front and center right by the cheerleaders. Embodies like what? You told me that you were going to keep them away and now. He's sitting courtside with the cheerleaders right. Bobby and Bobby's fired up at CNN. So he sits down computer banging on email and one of these claims. Is that ray? Anderson went on a golfing trip with Bart wear six weeks after learning of the allegations. So that's another part. Were bobbies like what are you doing? We told you this guy did these things to our wives and you're still golfing buddies. What they go on his private plane. What and so I I do. I could bobby credit. It's like as you put it. He can run hot. But when you run hot in defense of your wife or other women when you feel like someone who is acting undeniably inappropriately is getting away with it. Well THAT'S A. That's a good place to run hot. And not all of us would have the whatever's to stand up to our boss because when you're a coat that athletic director is your boss not all of us would have the whatever it takes to stand up to our boss in that way in defense of those women but Bobby did and I know now. He says that Henry Anderson are good but they clearly weren't on December seventh. And I understand why they weren't if I were Bobby Hurley. I'm fed up innocent. Yeah well said they don't really have much too much else to add From from all of that but yeah Arizona State in terms of just real quick on the program. I mean It's I think. Asu Fans realize that you know some of the stuff with bobby on like there are definite moments during games really like. It's just too much and I would even say that you know we don't know when Mike Will retire but I think. Because of Bobby's side he's one of the best players in that program's history That actually might be working against him being the successor but he is certainly doing things at Arizona State on the Court. An recruiting that are Quickly making him one of the best coaches in program history. I actually recently did a did a whole story on. Cbs Sports Dot Com about a look at the power conferences. New the best coach in each of those Schools was that's currently active in earliest. Not There yet. But he certainly getting there and I just thought the story was obviously Interesting that we just almost never see something like this if you tell us that there's a major college football coach at a power institution caught up with his athletic director. A scandal that has to do with sexual harassment. It's almost never the coach. That's on this side of the conversation and so You know credit to Bobby for acting the way that he did and I certainly hope that he and his ad are on good terms but You know when you take Bobby Edwards and an Anderson It's a clear pecking order in terms of who the WHO truly are the most powerful people athletic department like. I don't think I'd ever seen like listen. There are plenty of hate their athletic directors. I don't think I'd ever seen yes in email or a text message or or proof. Evidence of a coach going at his athletic director so brazenly and so aggressively an accusing him of serious misconduct. Like a you went on a golfing trip with the guy who we told you was sexually harassing our wives. Six weeks after we told you like. That's you know. That's I'm sure. Ray Interesting can rationalize it at his own head in my head. It seems like unacceptable behavior for Bobby to call him out on it. I thought was again just a a an interesting story. Let's move onto the sad news over the weekend Saturday night at the age of eighty. Four Eddie Sutton died Hall of fame coach. Who had an incredible career? That was yet teamed here and there was scandal. But when you talk about one of the all time great basketball coaches like any sudden is on that list. He coached at Creighton. Arkansas Kentucky Oklahoma State and finished his career as the interim coach at San Francisco which is where he was able to a clips. The eight hundred wind marker which is why he decided to coach that one season at San Francisco. He made three final four. He's the two-time. Ap Coach of the year. And so I guess the good news is that he was elected to the Naismith Memorial Hall of fame this year and so he lived long enough to know he was a hall of. Famer but the sad news is that he didn't live long enough to enjoy the ceremony. It was scheduled for this year. I don't know if you saw this. Jackie macmullan reported earlier tonight that that ceremony is now being pushed two thousand twenty one just so that that is the Kobe Bryant ceremony right. Well Tim Duncan Tim. Duncan I guess Kevin Garnett but Eddie Sutton was part of that and so just like a tweeted Saturday nine. I'm glad that coach Sutton was able to die knowing or I should put it. The other white lived long enough to know you were recognized as Naismith Memorial Hall of Famer but it kind of made me a little sad that he'll never get to experience that ceremony because anybody who's ever gotten to experience that will tell you it's. It's a pretty pretty incredible night. No doubt about it Obviously Doug Gottlieb is is one of his more well known players And as as vocal about Sutton as anyone given GOTTLIEB's prominent role in the basketball media For more than a decade now And he said I called him saying that that he thought that you know for much of the past year or so you're two years or three years One of the biggest things that might have been driving. Eddie to keep going was just waiting to see if you would get into the hall of fame. This was a huge deal. He's Sutton is had. I say for probably nearly a decade and with increasing volume in past two three or four years a very vocal and adamant and passionate crowd. Just guys that played forum but other coaches and former coaches that have been pushing to get him into the hall and while the Naismith Memorial Hall of fame the voting body that the members are not made public which something I've constantly criticized but that's just how it is Behind closed doors. There are enough people in basketball power circles that know who votes and who doesn't and clearly those words eventually had enough influence that he finally got in this year He had been in failing health. he was married to a woman patchy right for fifty five years. And so you know. Imagine you know living living with and loving for someone for so long more than five decades five and a half decades and He's now at peace there but certainly Titan in College. Coaching one of a handful. Eight ten twelve guys ever To win eight hundred games at the D. One level in in men's basketball he was born Buckland. Kansas died in Tulsa Oklahoma when he played at Oklahoma state in the nineteen fifties. It was actually called Oklahoma. Am HE LEARNED UNDER HENRY? Aiba not such a detail One of Sutton's biggest claims to fame is that he started at Creighton. Coach Arkansas Coach Kentucky and then Oklahoma State before finishing at San Francisco which is just. You're right it did get him to eight hundred and I wonder if that's a huge detail in terms of him getting in eclipsing that number GP So the fact that Sutton finished his career San Francisco just one of the more random coaching tidbits out there but with Creighton Arkansas Kentucky Oklahoma state he was the first coach ever to take four programs to the NCAA tournament there started at Creighton in the sixties Arkansas in the seventies got the hogs and the final four hundred seventy eight core four years of Kentucky but there were Kentucky is an interesting one because he brought about a scandal. I mean academic improper benefits some proven. Some weren't but a lot of people that are listening to podcasts. Now that are under the end. This is something that I barely even remember. But you know over the years to come to to read up on the stories and all that so anyone. That's over the age of forty will remember anyone. That's under the age of thirty s for the most part Kentucky was hit so hard by the instability that it actually there was a gossip and conjecture that it was as close to death penalty as a program as you could actually get at that point because it was a multiple offender and remember that's Gb that was on the heels of smu actually getting it and football. And that's what led Rick Pitino to getting to Kentucky and it's why the ninety two elite eight game against Duke is so heralded not because it was amazing game but the backstory about Kentucky getting gutted and Patino bringing all the way back and then losing in overtime at the Horn with the with the unforgettable is there but but yeah I had a quick but somewhat accessible and then Oklahoma state in one thousand nine hundred thousand six. He had the AUX team. They made the final four hundred ninety five team that also made the final four. They're So he finished at eight hundred four wins three hundred twenty nine losses one seventy percent of his games. I don't know if he was. I don't think he was ever for sure when he was coaching. Like the best coach or the Second Best Coach College basketball at any point. Maybe not even the third don't think that was ever the case like right now as we sit here if you want to say who are the best active coaches right. Now may twenty twenty. You could say well you know what I think. Is Tony Bennett? It could be Mike Chassis. You can put Crispier J. Right there. Y- names that you would throw into that conversation. I don't know if Sutton was ever at that point truly but when you look at his career is resume into toe totality GP. It's damn impressive. I do think that he is easily one of the twenty or twenty-five in the history of college basketball men's or women. You mentioned one eight. Two of the coach of the year twice in seventy eighty six and He did a great reconstruction job in Oklahoma State when he got there and finally earned induction into the Memorial Hall of fame. So I'm glad we just took a few minutes to talk about him because he is a big name in the history of the sport and his name has legacy his family will at least get the Get the nod their and get to experience that in twenty twenty one but Gone at the age of eighty four. And you know this is a cliche but I find it to be in talking to people who knew him they just probably don't make coaches like Eddie Sutton anymore. And I don't say that pejoratively He definitely was not a guy that was caught up in a lot of the The smaller stuff with the job if you will coast in a different style So Thoughts with him and his family and And produced a heck of a few good players. They're among my favorites obviously One Tony Allen so Recipes Eddie Sutton Certainly big legacy and soon to be in the hall of fame. He was great everywhere. He coached other than San Francisco. But that was like whatever and then Kentucky obviously turn bad had a losing record in that last year. And you've got a two year postseason ban and it's why when you hear somebody say the incident play never hits the billboards like Kentucky. Got A two year postseason ban like they buried that program and it took an all time great like Rick Pitino to get it back so quickly. But that's what it took somebody is great As as Rick Pitino and you mentioned the thousand and four final fourteen. That was my first dealings with Eddie Sutton because I was the Memphis beat writer at the time. They played Memphis in the second round of the of the into play tournament. Oklahoma state was the to the East Memphis was the seven and John. Kelly had just one is first into turn a game? Since arriving at Memphis this was year four. It took to the fourth year that John was at Memphis from to win a tournament game in the second round. They play Oklahoma state. And it's Tony Allen Joey and Stephen Graham John Lucas Ivan McFarland just men against boys the Oklahoma state up forty one nine hundred the half they win seventy fifty three and then trivia time. That's what I'll have to give it to me. Who did that? Oklahoma state team beat in the elite eight to get to the final four. I mean what are we doing here? This question is way too easy. I'm offended okay. Can you give me something? That's difficult Easter at the Saint Joe's undefeated team losing the ALITA. Billy Packer Nancy. Not Worthy of Trivia time. We've long since moved past that. If you ask me who they beat in the sweet sixteen that I can't tell you that would actually be difficult. I can't. I cannot recall offhand who Oklahoma state would have beaten the sweet sixteen that year. Well I let me tell you. Saint Joe's was not undefeated. That's right. They lost Xavier. Who was an eight seed in the eight ten undefeated in the regular season? They were somewhat of a controversial one seed heading into the Oh four tournament in fact famously. Packer completely dismissed them and it only took until they got to have that great game at home. That packer publicly commended. That Saint Joe's team who I also love. That's one of my favorite eight games of all time. You write that. One loss randomly upset in eight quarters by savior. Saint Joe's team that finished thirty and two they were thirty in one entering that Game Jamir Nelson National Player of the year now works at CBS sports network with me and he and I just randomly started talking about that game but at some point this season and he was like we knew like I knew when it started like this is a different level deal. He's like he's like all the people who said we hadn't been playing against great athletes. He was like I. I doubted them up until we got. We Got Oklahoma state and I was like okay. Maybe maybe they knew something because like we were just physically overwhelmed by them but they made it close. It was a final sixty four. Sixty two an answer question. Oklahoma state their path to that game. It was eastern Washington than be used to Washington by Nineteen Memphis Bite. Seventeen hit by twelve pit. Is that bin Halim pit or Jamie Dixon pit Jamie Dixon pit s. Jamie Jackson pet appears to be Jamie Dixon. Pit in two thousand four Jamie Dixon. First Year I think it probably was. Yep Amy Dickson first year at Pitt. Thirty one and five Manno man and then Oklahoma state goes to the final four and plays who trivia time this is all four and they lose to Georgia Tech. That's right we'll buy them in the Luke Shan Sure Luke. Censure going in the teeth the podcast. That's an absolute automatic. That Georgia Tech Team. Listen they had a couple of guys I get it but really I think the most just I listened shots Paul Hewitt but like a lifetime contract incredible incredible job but like the most uninspiring underwhelming nationals Semi runner up. The ever. Like just just completely. You knew you can't have that game. You knew when they played UCONN title game that Georgia Tech had absolutely no shot. It would have been a much better game. And i contend that oklahoma state would have had a real real chance to actually pull it off a win national title if it played uconn and oh by the way if that does happen then i think eddie sutton's in the hall of fame like ten years ago personally right but One last Eddie Sutton story so I get the job at CBS. In two thousand six. And I guess it's two thousand eight when he takes over at San Francisco. I don't even remember the details but if somebody got fired. They needed a interim coach like the pump brothers. Were involved in it somehow. Like Hey we get ready to San Francisco and we can get into eight hundred wins. Like that's all they wanted to do was just get him to eight hundred wins and so I was. I might have broke the story. I don't remember but like I I was I was in there the whole time with it and at some point after it's been reported Dana Pomp. Hey do you want us to get coach? Sutton to call you. And I don't know coats up at all. Like I had my job for two years. And like he was out of the game by like we didn't really cross pass much and so I didn't really know him at all and I bet you. I've had dinner with my father-in-law my wife's father five times ever. Okay he lives in Arkansas and this he happened to be in town this night. And so we're sitting at dinner and my phone rings and it's Eddie Sutton and he just thought that was the coolest thing in the world because he's from Arkansas and he like idolized Eddie Sutton. And he couldn't believe his daughter was married to somebody who was on the phone with Eddie Sutton. He never quite grasp what my job was. But the idea that Eddie Sutton called me. I don't remember a million of games that I've been to but I can vividly remember sitting with my father in law and saying excuse me I have to take this `cau- it's Eddie. Sutton what you're playing around like Eddie Sutton released dowdy thought that was the wildest thing though and I remember like Eddie just being real that he was gonNA coach again because if you remember it ended badly in Oklahoma state to. Yes just for different reasons. There was a drunken driving incident and it was just is ugly scene and so he'd had the thing in badly at Kentucky and then it ended badly at Oklahoma state. And here's a guy who's just going to to me. That what I remember about is he just sounded like a basketball coach like man. I'm going to be coach basketball. And I'm you know I'm GONNA be able to get paid under winds and that's great but I'll be back in a gym coach basketball. Is it going to be on national television? The way used to do it. Is it going to be inside? Rep Arena was no but man. I can't wait the coach basketball again and I know that season didn't go perfectly but it did get him above eight hundred and enjoyed it and he for to be at such an advanced age. At that time he could not been more excited in that moment talking on the phone to to to stranger. Because that's what I was to him. I just remember really pumped up and really just kind. He was genuinely enthusiastic. I have good memories of Eddie Sutton fan good deal all right. One more bit of news item. Actually like this podcast. You if you were on a bunch of different topics it's busier than I thought On a late late Wednesday in May but here we go So official word. You can inform the people officially here but official word came down on Wednesday. I in what for you and I think wasn't inevitability but it does impact college basketball. I think in a very significant way. Tell the people would happen. The into announced today that there's going to be a moratorium on evaluation days until at least July thirty first which essentially means July recruiting officially done. Now none of this should be a surprise. It's just like at this point the NBA draft has technically been moved. But it's going to be moved and I talked to Jonathan Cavani earlier today and he predicted that it would move to September. Like like like move really moved and so this is not surprising news but it is more official news for the first time in. Jesus you tell me. How many years is they're not going to be a peach. Jim in North Augusta South Carolina. Well I think know the answer. I think it's twenty two because I think it was two years ago that it was the twentieth anniversary of the Peach Jam. But it's the first time I don't even know how long this you'd need someone who's been on the beat for a long time including The legendary Tom Konczal Chelsea. Who recently retired. But why not gonNA shouts to Tom? You ever shaken Tom. Stand by the way of course legendary handshake. You're in you're in there for at least forty seconds gets he gets. There's no get now. It makes me uncomfortable like the president. Does that too? Apparently it's just hold onto you. Yeah just Tom. Such as we truly legendary evaluator He might have the answer for the last time that there wasn't age alive period the college basketball recruiting calendar. It truly is a live organism like it changes every two to five years in terms of when you can't go out when you can't go out with events allowed what aren't allowed live here. That periods will change and all that stuff. So it's constantly changing but I couldn't tell you the last time that coaches were actually not on the road whatsoever to evaluate basketball players in July. I mean we could be talking like six decades. Here I don't know but that wasn't inevitability just like you said with the draft That is absolutely accurate and it now leaves the question and I talked to a couple coaches here on Wednesday one since it came out in a couple earlier just kind of casual and on background but we did get just talking recruiting and listen. It's significant because first and foremost coach say this was some interests but they also say on behalf of the players that the recruiting the ones that they're not what you've got here is most particularly kids that are going to be seniors. Classic Twenty Twenty One. They were robbed of April and now the robbed of July. These are the opportunities where you might be seen as a to scar kit or a three star kid and then you get yourself right in three games or two games or maybe even one game and it changes your entire life because the right coach saw you and suddenly you go from having either no offers period to get in a son and southland offers or whatever or you're a south level player to the ten or your eight ten level of the ACC. I mean these are life changing things that happen every year. And they are documented frequently by you or me or people in the media recruiting writers. Obviously it's really awesome. It's sure it's it's it becomes a bit like okay. Yeah another guy. No one knew who this dude was and now suddenly. You've got blue bloods on them. Like almost happens With the turning of the seasons but still every year that it happens when you see a sixteen or seventeen to experience that and particularly if you talked to a parent that's on hand. It's awesome to hear those stories so they've been robbed of that. So what coaches want to know now is okay. When ARE WE GONNA HAVE CLARITY ON? If we're going to see these guys at all in a competitive environment like are we going to be able to push back the skull the non-scholastic calendar into September? Gp Or. Is it going to be me? Mike Brady told me a couple of months ago. He's like. I wouldn't be surprised if we got to October November four. We got to see these guys in in a weird way. Maybe this one year old almost like how we used to recruit in nineteen eighty-four like we're going to the high schools and that's really. We're getting the majority of our live action. No has those answers yet but Wednesday did bring the official end of July period and that is a significant thing. For how programs operate and how they're able they're chasing and there are probably GonNa be lower level schools that are going to be in on guys that bigger schools are just not gonna be able to see. And so they're gonNA benefit I think in the short-term they're keep an eye out for that and just to kind of loop it back to what we talked about the GP. It wouldn't surprise me at all. And I don't know how you could track all this data but if you just looked up in December or march of next year and just saw how many players just opted to stay within thirty miles sixty miles ninety miles a home just out in a either concern for what we're going through or just local schools being more in on these guys Just keep an eye out with that because there are not going to be a lot of schools like in Arizona. Oh by the way just a toss it just a an afterthought of a headline so to speak here. They got another commitment. Arizona has six players who are from foreign countries. And they have been able to get in the Legwork with their class of Twenty Twenty. They got like nine kids. That are GONNA turn over here including a Kinjo who I mentioned. But that's not going to be the case with a lot of schools. I think for the next season. Gp You're not GonNa have an Arizona Flush among them where you're going to have these big programs that are going to be able to real in international pro prospects left and right the leg work that was done with an Arizona getting six guys from overseas two of them. I think even played in the state of the past two years so it's not like six truly do like packing up and leaving Europe in the next two weeks or so But yeah it will. I'm being long winded here. Gp To wrap the pod. But I do think that it will have actual impact on how it's recruited and when that comes down to it I think there are long term effects are short short long term effects on how these teams perform one two and three years from now there are stories literally. Every summer of a coach happened to be and Jim when somebody plays well and next thing you know. He's on the radar. Next thing you know he's visit. He's committed like those opportunities. Not Existing really does change the landscape of college basketball like somebody who would otherwise. Be on your favorite teams roster. Two years from now is not going to be there because the coaches didn't see and stinks it's important to remember like on the list of things that salk about living through pandemic not going to peach. Jam is way down the list and player prospects not having that event is way down the list but it does suck plus. I want to go to boll. Weevil Miss. The Ball Weevil cafe. I'm sorry what the Ball Weevil cafe. You lost me. You don't know the boat. We will cafe in now. It's should i. It's the little cafe right out of the back door the Marriott talking. He's talking Augusta proper. Yes out of the back door or are you talking about the actual restaurant inside of it? No you walk out of the back door of the Marriott and you walk right into the Boll. Weevil cafe have never eaten there in my life. What I go there every summer. What you're not you're not with any of us. I try to go by myself. Yeah that's what's going on. I've been I've been there with quite a few different people. Maybe maybe not. You have been at the restaurant inside the Marriott many times as well boy we've got a million stories about those but that's maybe maybe not but that's always seen that is that is quite the scene that restaurant especially at night after the game. How do you spell this spot by the way? The Boll Weevil cafe it's a the be. Oh L. Okay W. E. E. V. I l. the Boll Weevil okay. It's right there on the little river. Walk thing right out the back door Marriott. Look it up one day. Maybe one day we'll be able to get back there. I hope because like okay. I flew home on March eleventh. I flew home on March. Eleven tournament was canceled the twelfth where you at home and it was cancelled. Yeah because I was at the CIA tournament with. Were you at home the night that we talked about Rudy. Gobert at home that morning. Yeah Okay flew home that morning and yeah we were pocket multiple. Podcast we did we did. I think we did too in a day and then you needed me to do a third and I couldn't so you third yourself I think that's right and so I haven't been. I haven't been away from home since March eleven in now. No Peach Jam. This is the longest. I have been home without leaving. I think in my entire adult life in terms of getting on a plane. Yeah certainly since. I've been at college really. I think so new like you've gotten home at like get home on April ninth after a final four not hopped on a plane until June July. You've done that but this is now going to go just feels like six years. It feels like six decades. But it's now going to go to I mean I don't think I'm GonNa get on a plane. We had a beach vacation schedule for June. We cancelled it and so now. I'm not going out in July. I really don't know when I'll get on a plane again. And by the time I get on a plane again. I suspect it will be the long largest amount of time between flights that I've had in my adult life. I JUST WANNA get out board a plane skin a drink and then I'll just go get off the plane. I just want drink on a plane. It on a plane. That's what people are talking about what they miss and miss being able to hug my parents or you know. I miss being able to you. Know have get it cut. It's true yeah I I missed drinking on a plane. That's number one minutes I can do. I can do without having people over. I don't really care. I don't have that many people I like. I Miss I MISS DRINKING. Apply first of all. You're a couple of one. I got a damn stink bug on my laptop right now. You GotTa Stink Bo problem by the way. I don't know how these efforts getting my house is that A. Is that a thing in memphis familiar with stink bug. But it's not something that I it's not something. Anyone that lives in the northeast is GonNa like this thing is crawling atop a photo. Windows are closed. I don't know how it's in here and I I'm killing like one a day. I don't know how they're getting into my house. I don't know what's going on. Just one thing after another here and what was that what was I think. Oh I do envy you in that. your hair situation is normally not something to envy. But you're able to maintain just keep like I'm it's. I'm going on Tuesday morning. I have to do a facebook watch video every Tuesday afternoon so shaved my head every Tuesday morning. I picked a good pick a good time to go ball. You did pick a good time to go bolt because you know what my lettuce is is starting to It's getting into a weird stage here. My wife is insisting on buzzing my head. This thing is attacking me to see this this. Oh my God like. We don't have oddly and Mississippi. We don't deal with it. Oh my gosh is mosquitoes and humidity. Yeah we do. Have THE MOSQUITOS UP HERE? But it's not. It's not southern. Tally just like it gets to be six ten. And you can't be outside anymore like horrendous. We don't have it that bad here. Are you guys allowed to go get haircuts yet in Connecticut? That's a good question. We were the last state to open up early. Loosen restrictions if you will and so. I haven't even tried yet so I don't I don't yet know are still wearing masks thirty. I mean it's super respectful and that is highly highly appreciate like everywhere I go. Everyone has a mask on. Because I went to the grocery store last time I went to maybe two times ago. There was a guy must have been eighty five years old willing himself into the grocery store. No mass just doesn't really cares. Nobody cares I'm on a different planet down here but I will say they have loosened restrictions and so far nothing bad like we haven't had a bad spike or anything like that could become but we haven't had it but my wife went to salon yesterday and got her hair done for the first time since the pandemic and she said it was but fine like wearing a mask while your stylist is doing your hair. She said it was weird. Weird but fine but I did. I wouldn't play golf so that I played Monday. When did you play Sunday Sunday morning? I still stink. What did you shoot we? We were playing match place. I didn't even keep a real score but it was. It would not have been good whatever it was. I did find somebody. Who lies about their handicap? More than I would Tom Brady Tom. Brady says he's eight hundred zero. I mean listen I understand the nerves you know you know that you're being watched by millions and millions. I get all that but then again. You're Tom Brady like you know you're being watched by exactly exactly. I have gophers a different deal. But Yeah No. I hear that. I played Monday Brother took me out for my for my birthday so actually played on on my birthday. Shot at one. Oh One after not swinging the clubs since September. I guess So when we went out one car per person which is by the way should be permanent. Like that was awesome. I assume you had the same deal. One Carpenter we had one we go. You know one person per car we also had. We're playing at southwind. That's not a humble brag. It's you it's a really nice course and so it was carpet only L. Boy. We were walking around. Okay Yeah Did your which was another thing. I should be permanent. Did your flag sticks have the little The Little Hook obviously just lift up the putter love. It love it. Great to know. Rake Golfers. I'm for one hundred years. We've been waiting to that so we had no obligation to rate when you leave the trap. Yeah no but we were. We were instructed to remove from the trump's. Oh Yeah we were not we play. I headed in an and I think you're not supposed to be in the trap. Well there were death that may have been the case but there are definitely had been people in the trap. Sauce it is. I hit plenty of balls in the trash but then we were instructed. Pull them out and just play them like you know no closer to the whole but you play them. Drop ticket drop. But you don't take a penalty you just pulled. You're not playing trump's leaving I gotcha you still. Are you still hitting Jeff proper irons? He's still going with the with the hybrid. Hyper band this duty. This never seen whip someone whip out African eight iron hybrid course. I don't know how you play with those clubs man. I don't know how you do that. But more power to you. I will say this though it fell like I'd been itching to play and then I would watch the match to on Sunday and that was a that was really fun to watch. Made me all the more excited to get out and play But once I was out there was like what did I need this? Like my thanks to my wife. She's like you know what your birthday go. Ahead go out enjoy with my buddies in my youngest brother and And once once you're out there like boy I just like in a world but does not fill the normal normal if it did it was It was really really good and You know no frustration. Over botched four iron approach or anything like that so that was That was pretty pretty cool so Dig that if you are if you're able to get out I I would certainly suggest it in a socially conscious way. It's actually the one sport that really enables itself to To all of that so I did a. I did have a good time with that thing. I'll tell Ya yes I have started. Billions O- how many episodes okay hold on hold on? I like little. I like our little offseason. Tv Ketchup things. So you're caught up on succession loved it. Okay well if you have not watched accession if you're not caught up just fast forward for the next thirty five to forty seconds or just real quick okay so you did love it. I actually thought like I liked the show. I didn't love the show in the final two episodes of the second season. I was like okay now. Let's get going now. It's actually now. I'm like okay now. It's starting to get good. I called it when Kendall did that. I knew he was GonNa do that. Did you sense that he was going to do it? And when he left the boat I did not see it coming. But let me ask you this. Do you think do you think is? Father is pleased or upset. I think he's upset because there's some I I liked. I read all the yeah. I read all the reviews. Dad knew what he was going to do before he did it. They thought that dad pushed him by saying. You're not a killer pushed him to do it in other words. Got Him to do what he really wanted to do was like let's keep this thing in the family. I'm not going to survive it. You Kill me. Keep it in the family interesting okay. Well I was once that finale aired I was like we gotta wait even longer. 'cause because of all the coronavirus pushing back all this stuff okay. How many episodes into billions are you? I'm on season two through this first of all. I'm not injured by nature so like you're GonNa be you're going to be ahead of me. No time like two episodes into season. Three we just watched the I two two nights ago here but yeah it's it's better than do you like it more than succession already. Here's the thing. I like succession more because I think it's smarter. I think it's actually like it's dark. Funny Kinda it is. Yeah so I think. I like secession more but I will say this billions much easier to fly through episodes days zip to meet my favorite character between bull shows. Is Bobby Axelrod me for sure? And it just seems a little. I like windy roads. She's also very good. Yes Wendy rose very good. I'm glad you're on the bill. I would not steer you wrong men. That's you're going to be all caught up before I am because I just can't keep up with that for a four hour long. Show they really do fly by sometimes long shows. It's like a forty five minute show. Yeah you get a thirty minute. Show no problem sometimes. The hour-long shows even it's a good show like he just kind of drag but the billions does not at all. It's like it's constantly moving. It's going it's it's never rarely boring. Yeah when you This WON'T SPOIL ANYTHING AT. I'll just But by the time we get to the end of season two I think you'll like how plot where it goes and where it moves in what the characters are doing and how things twist a little bit but good to know all right caught up. You're catching up billions. I'm there with you. And once they do and the next thing and I might hit the Paul's billions the new Jeffrey Epstein documentary. Dropped on Netflix's Today. Oh it did you get into that. I'm interested in that I'm fascinated by the whole story. How boy yeah like? I listened to three different Jeffrey Epstein. Podcastone man what doesn't like that. It's incredible how that guy got away with it for so long. That is for sure just hideous nece without a doubt because everybody knows the surface level story but like these. Podcasts broke it down from how he got his money. How he built this thing is just like what like what? How did people allow us to go on? Like it's one thing if you just kind of a creeper with kids. Yeah what are we doing now? I'm just fascinated by the whole thing and so I might have to break from billion Paul's billions knockout four episodes Jeffrey Epstein Documentary Divac. But I'm I'm Dan with billions. We're all will we'll recap missy see. You're you're just tearing through this on your own time. Billions is is a show that my wife really really likes so I GOTTA. Watch it with her. So I'm on their schedule. We're getting and we do like to week. 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Virginia Avenges Historic Loss With A Championship

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Virginia Avenges Historic Loss With A Championship

"Hey, what's up? I'm jerry. Oh, hi there now, and we do a podcast like almost every day. But not quite it's the Alan Jerry post game podcast. We really started to talk about things we didn't get to on the boomer and geo shell but now it's really just us talking about robots rats in New York City and dome people in Florida and porn sites. That do studies and polls. Yes, studies and polls you can download and subscribe on radio dot com and the new radio dot com app. Why investors Bank studio boomer assize Brexit, Audi boomer and geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports that work. Good Tuesday morning. A great national championship game in college basketball last night with Virginia. Completing these story line of getting knocked out by a sixteen seed and coming back the next year and winning a national championship. It takes over time. It takes a little bit more controversy with a replay. It takes being down three when fifteen seconds to go and another big jot, and it takes a lot of luck to get there. And they got it throughout the tournament. But a lot of great players. Well, so Virginian getting it done and also the Yankees with a really bad day all around yesterday, Severino not feeling right? Another MRI and a game may never should've lost to the Astros yesterday off three one with Tanaka cruising. They go to the bullpen. Zach Britton doesn't get it done. And then ought to beat all can't keep the game tied. Good morning, boomer. Our yet, y'all doing great jail. You know, unfortunately for you. And I that gang goes adult time that I was thinking about you. And I was like all my God. He's going to be picked. He's not gonna be getting any sleep. And certainly I felt the same way about myself because obviously it was a great end of that regular. You know, the regular time game, you know. So it was it just goes in overtime and everything else. And now a couple of things that I took out of the game is night. If anybody really cares. But one of the things that I hated was the replay on the on the ball that won't office supposedly Moretti's pinky. All it did. I supposedly day supposedly it did. And Jean search was trying to explain the gymnasts that you know, it has to be definitive. And I'm like, I still haven't seen him really definitive look at it. And then as now we're into like, how do we each like see the replay? And I get that. And that play like ten years ago is never replayed. Oh, no way years ago, never replayed. It's just it's it's easy to understand that that boggles off to Virginia player. He's the he's the one that knocks it out of bounds. And and quite frankly, they probably could have called a a foul, but they didn't. And I and I appreciate that. They didn't do that. They let the kids play. But at the end of the day, I'm thinking to myself this thing that's going to ruin this game. It's going to be the stupid replay. They're going to overturn a. Play where kids pinky is hit the ball. And I guess if you really wanna be hard core about it. Okay. And went off of him, according to the officials, but I don't know just one of those places where I just felt like it just took the entire kind of excitement out of the game. Like a gave the ball back to Virginia. And then they and then they go down, and quite frankly, Andre hunter is a stud that kid is just awesome. He had to utes threes. One at the end of regulation tie the game. And then he hit another one in overtime. That was just an awesome shot from the right side. Then they kid. Matt Mooney for Texas Tech. He s great took them a while to get going. But he was sitting big shot after big shot late in the game. Don't you feel like, you know, of giving it to, you know, Jared Culver who was I think five of twenty two for the game. I mean Mooney was the guy that was making all the place. Now, he also took a three point shot from seem like from Mars, which offer in overtime what you probably shouldn't have done, and they also kept trying to force Carver's hand. And he just wasn't having a great game. Now, he wasn't and now is really disappointing for him. And there's no doubt about it that, you know, de'andre hunter you wanna talk about the NBA guys the entree hunters going to look back at this game and say, I did everything I could to win the championship. And and Culver is going to say, wow, you know, I had more opportunities here, and I didn't get it done. And as far as a replay goes this reminded me of reminded me of in baseball when you guy will slide into a bag, and then his foot will come off for like a Bill. In the gloves on it. And he's cold out. And you're thinking, well, this is what replays for I clearly safe. Now, we're basically splitting hairs looks like forensic team comes in and decides it, but also if you're going to replace something like that you're going to look at it. You can only judge what you see and come back with that. Call and that's what they saw. They said that it went off his hand. I mean, I I don't know what you make the decision to look at that frame by frame. You can't come back. It'd be like well the spirit a replayed. So you to call the ball out. And let's just let's just leave that as as the replay shows you I for me, maybe they were looking at a different angle or something. I don't necessarily know that I saw a definitive evidence as Jean star or kept telling gymnasts than than I did. I well, it is what it is at the end of the day. It was a great game up until that point. And that's where the game kind of got away from Texas Tech. And and quite frankly, the kid that I was really really really impressed with was. The kid tied Jerome shell. I own a prep kid, and I'll tell you what that kid he made so many really good passes. So many good decisions forced the issue when the Virginia needed the issue to be forced on offense. I just thought it was everything that we thought the game was going to be. And then all of a sudden that replay kind of just I don't know just kind of took Texas Tech out of the game. I felt and from that point on Virginia basically showed their their their championship chops. And that was a really gritty game by all those kids, unfortunately for and so I don't think he was one hundred percent. No. And you know, he ends up fouling out. And that's a you know, he just never really got involved defensively like he had been for so many games. And he was one of the key defenders of the remedy against the team, Mike Virginia who does what they do when they drive to the paint. He would be a great guy when he's one hundred percent to be in the middle there and to kind of affect some of those shots. But I I don't know. It was just it was a great great game. And then all of a sudden that replay happened and kinda just took the the excitement out of the game. That's all. Well, I'm big especially after you feel how Virginia got there too. I mean, I think that that was still hanging over the whole double dribble thing. And there were some people. We did not agree with the people who said that wasn't a foul on guide to send him to the line for the three shots in the game against Auburn. But that definitely was a foul. So I think that was sort of a cloud that was hanging over it. I also think the Texas Tech in the biggest moments defensively came up short. If you think about that possession that led to the hunter three to tie the game in regulation. If you go back and watch that and we did before the show guys standing around confused, not close it out on that. Not sure exactly where they were going. And then in overtime, here's Virginia who yes, this is one of the best Virginia. Tony Bennett offensive teams. We've ever seen for sure and they win a national championship. But they scored seventeen points at overtime against Texas Tech, which is a lot five minute. And a bunch of those were free throws where they made their free throws. As a matter of fact, Virginia's twenty two twenty three on free throw threes rose, and really you could take thirteen and fifteen protects tech. They hit their free throws as well. But right, there is the seven points. Now, it's twenty two thirteen and really when you think about the at the end of the at the end of the regulation, Wendy, Andrea hunter is open. It's almost like Texas Tech for how to play defense and that kid hit a money shot, and he was wide open. You hadn't seen him wide open shot like that. Because the shot that he hits in overtime. He's got like three guys right there in front he and he elevates above all of them and just hits an absolutely perfect shot from the right side. The I don't know why culvert and close out with confidence that he was the thing about cultural what he was doing. And I could see it, and they'll they'll replay it again for some reason he felt like you had to get down load at the stop the penetration when an actual they're up by three let that kid go. Let. You know, I think it was tied Jerome. Let them go and let him shoot it. And let them make it. And then you're still up by one. But he just he lost where he was for God who he was covering and forgot the situation in the game where you're up by three you're late. The last thing you want is to have hunter have the ball and have a wide open attempt. And that's exactly what happened you think about Virginia in their journey last year. Of course, you know, you NBC it's so embarrassing for them once going down to a sixteen for the first time ever really a one though in the hunter is not on the court. Sure. Now, if they didn't make it past the round of thirty two or they didn't make it to the Sweet Sixteen or whatever that would have been one thing to lose to a sixteen. They still should have been able to do that. They were still a heavy heavy favorite. They come back. This year, you're down thirty six thirty at halftime did Gardner Webb. You come back in that game have a huge second half. And then you've got all these other instances last night. Of course, then the Auburn game. Of course, the Purdue game and the way the data ended. You gotta give Tony Bennett. And that group a ton of credit for not folding in moment after moment after moment. I think about it. They blow another lead here. They blow lead the Texas Tech. I mean, they're up nine they're cruising about five minutes to go. And then you're comes Texas Tech. They don't fold again same thing happened in the game against Auburn. The same thing happened and the game against produce. So it's just it's it's to fight through those moments after what happened to you last year to have the confidence still after what happened last year to go and win a national championship is just it really is remark. I think Grant Hill said something last night about Tony Dungy call and Tony Bennett after the loss last year, and how Tony Bennett handled it, and then Tony was talking about how it brought them closer to his fate that brought them closer to his team. And and it was a very painful lesson learned and all that kind of stuff, and and he took that lesson and very very rarely does that does this opportunity ever presented itself is lucky at a lot of guys coming back, and and certainly guys a little bit. Older guys who were battled tests because they went through it. And they and they live to play another day. And then get the championship that they thought they probably should've won last year. But I don't know. It's just it was just a tremendous tremendous Ron it was a great tournament this year. There were a lot of great games. It's unfortunate that the overtime ended up the way it did with about a minute to go. The game was in the hands of Moretti. And then all of a sudden there comes the replay. And it's overturned the balls given Virginia and I felt like at that point in time. Texas Tech was taken either game. Now Mooney attempts a couple of really bad threes. But I don't know it was exciting. But it was also it was unfulfilling unfulfilling finished away at ended the last minute of overtime. Yeah. I that's why it looked these. These are one thousand nine hundred zero rate game and a great. I mean, this was this was an unbelie the only thing that this tournament. Didn't have was a true Cinderella. But I was fine with that. I mean, you didn't have right basketball. Right. But in the first couple of weekends you. You didn't have the. The sister Jean storyline. You didn't have you MBC? Didn't have that all about basketball. The only thing we had that we didn't that that was a little bit of controversy was the Tom Izzo Yona's player in the first round. Yeah. There was that. I was at on after that. And then you had design Williamson Michael avenue, Nike disaster story and all that trying to come out and just ruined the tournament. But again, the turnament is bigger than any other off the court story and all that other stuff. And I I just think that when you take a look at college basketball you watch for forty minutes. How important the point guard is and decisions that they have to make the amount of times the ball is in their hands. And they are required by their head coach to take the ball to the hoop. And then if you if you get there sure, of course, you could shoot it if you want, but on your way there you got to keep your eyes open. You gotta keep your awareness about you got to see where the double teams are coming from. And you gotta distribute the basketball. I gotta tell you tied Jerome was that guy for Virginia. Oh, yeah. Local kid, man. And that kid I he just jumped off screen last night. Yeah. I mean, he he's one of those guys who always joke around about the spark plug guys or the scrappy players on a team. He is he is everything and that four Virginia. So this was one hell of a storyline. One hell of a tournament one of my favorite tournaments, not only because I picked for Jinnah beginning and ended up winning some money in a bracket. I did have that. But also the fact that you had great games. Great teams. It didn't have the sex appeal in the final four one Duke went out. Hey, you didn't have Kentucky your North Carolina. And the blue bloods, weren't they are fine. But you had one of the best elite eights I can ever remember every one of those games was awesome. You had Duke and UCF Duke in Virginia Tech, which was just another unbelievable gaming. This was this was a really really good tournament. You did you had a great national championship game. Even know of these word the biggest of brand name so all around. This was a great tournament and locally in college basketball shocking last night when I see John Ralston tweet out. That Chris Mullin is going to step down. And he's not going to be the head coach, Shane, John. Here's what I think happened, and you may know a little bit more than I do. But, but I I just think that when they're logic director came out a couple of days ago days ago, he's going to be our head coach and then Chris Ball and decides to step away from being the head coach that means that there are alumni that are upset with Chris Mullin somewhere along the line somebody who gives money to the program or somebody who is a supporter of the program is upset with either the recruiting or the way that he's coaching or or something like that. And while the athletic director is showing solidarity with his head coach the head coach is hearing the whispers hearing the negativity and says enough of this. I don't need this. And that's that's what I simply think. And I'm speculating here. I don't know any inside information. But just understanding that the situation at Saint John's that's what I think is happening. Yeah. There's been some talk about contract extension and philosophy on that. That Mullen wanted a more years on the contrary. We had two full years left on it. And that the new AD Mike crag wasn't comfortable and giving him that. And you know, my Craig has got do right by Saint Johnson. I think he does your Saint John's here I've been on a magic Chris Molin those going to be demanded a contract extension in two years left in the season that they had where which was okay. But certainly didn't live up to expectations is telling you this. This is what goes on. And I'm sure that there was some sort of alumni pressure. And Chris probably wasn't feeling the overall love that he was feeling for years ago. You know, and then all of a sudden, you know, the. It's just kind of gets a little bit foggy. And then you start feeling a little bit negative feelings towards each other. And then and before you know, it, Chris, you know, look he recognizes it, and he probably feels like I don't want to put up with us. That's what that's what I would think. Yeah. And then the the first name that pops up in every article to replace Chris Mullin is Bobby Hurley, and I'm Bobby Hurley's coaching out and Arizona state income here. Bobby Hurley's making two point one million dollars man coming here. Bobby Hurley's buyout for his contract because he signed an extension January twenty eighteen is two and a half million dollars. You're telling me Saint John's who still sells dollar hotdogs at carnesecca arena is going to be paying this guy five million dollars for one year just to get them here. And then beyond I hell, no, like the bad thing to now for Saint John's because all of a sudden anybody from a smaller school that would be looking at Saint John's is an upward mobility for the coaching ranks all of a sudden gone already like the buffalo coaches. John, right. The Wofford coach is gone all those guys are resigned or sign with new schools for big money. Most of those guys. I don't know where the next coach is coming from. But what Bobby Hurley is not leaving Scottsdale. Arizona or whatever wherever they are Tempe. Arizona he's not leaving their no believe me. Well, not to come to his means. He's not he's got a good life right there. He's well. I don't think that Saint John's could pay imperial, even if you wanted to Arizona state is not like something, you know. It's a big school. Yeah. Of course, it is. I know. Absolutely. I would also thinks that maybe their standards are a little bit lesser than Saint John's. So you're probably getting a few more kids. Yeah. Who knows I I know that that sounds like a sexy name Bobby is going to come back, home and all that stuff. I don't see that happening. Welcome to the tash with multi time crow wrestling champion, celebrated color commentator award winning podcast and morning show host on CBS sports radio. This is tad. And we'd like it all in the world of sports entertainment wrestling. And beyond with special guests and more. Listen anytime on demand radio dot com. This show always rock you to the call with troll, the pinions from yours truly. It's body slamming excite, but I promise you download subscribe to the patch show on the new radio dot com app.

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The Evolution of Virginia Basketball and the Art of the Altercation with Justin Anderson

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The Evolution of Virginia Basketball and the Art of the Altercation with Justin Anderson

"Today's subsidized today. We are talking with University of Virginia Basketball Legend. I'll say legend all use. The L word just Anderson. He's he joined us for a pretty long discussion. We got into it about Bennett. Ball the rise of Tony Bennett. The Virginia Win in the national change of I keep asking guys Basically argue annoyed that your Alma Mater. One after you left I. That's a common question. I ask guys never says No. Everyone's like I'm very happy for them. Absurd into feel like date. Maybe I'm the only person the world that has that train of thought it's a very one and done train of thought during my year. We didn't do it so I'm good on that but I kinda. I respect the fact that he was incited and Justin Anderson. I mean he's one of those guys that I dream that would go to Carolina but they took jp Tokyo and said you remember that and He terrorized on we. We did a thing with him. Where we went through all the altercations. He's been in his career and we had him explain. Why it is the is gets all these altercations. That was pretty funny because you just got to see him slowly realizing like yeah I do kinda mix it up a lot. But but the funniest part though is that it's like not all his fault so trying to try to rationalize how can you get in so many altercations? But it always not be your fault. What's going on here? Was it was a fun exercise. I it's it's a sign of right logic wrong. Place de happens to be the wrong place. A few too many times on a basketball court We're GonNa talk about the NBA. Come back maybe a little bit of time Bobby Hurley Story. He's got a little beef gone with his death. Arctic Record Arizona State it is an absolute. It's your we're to get to all I would. Durham all right day before. Get into the Bobby Hurley situation. Which I know anytime. A coach K. Disciples. You're you're I WANNA I congratulate my sister She had a baby this week date her second child. I have another niece that has been brought to the world. In under normal circumstances I would not mention this. It's not exactly worth mentioning other than yeah. It's just not worth many. What there is some controversy tate and I WANNA get your thoughts on this. So the baby was born Tuesday nights slash Wednesday morning. The official time that it was born was midnight Wednesday morning And they obviously my. My sister went into Labor before the she went into Labor. Deny she went to the hospital Tuesday night in her mind. She had the baby Tuesday night. The baby officially comes out on the DOT at midnight. The nurses in the room after the fact explain that the clock in the delivery room is actually a little fast my sister. My brother-in-law are of the belief that the baby's birthday should be Tuesday that was born like at eleven fifty eight eleven fifty nine Tuesday The the official birth certificate says Wednesday morning. It has become a massive controversy in our family. I'm asking questions of I. I'm saying review the tape. I'm asking like wind. There are a lot of questions. Where does where does? Where do you stand on this and then also like win? Win is a baby born in the first place. Is it like a touchdown situation where it crosses any part of across the plane? Is it like soccer. That the hall Ho Ball has to be out of bounds for be. I think the whole Baugh baby has to be out and it's funny because as you say this my brother and his wife announced that they're going to have another daughter so we're both going to have to these. So this is what is going on in the world I think the baby has to be completely out. We have to confirm that. The baby is healthy And then we say the baby is born to. The baby was born on Wednesday and confirmed Boorda Woods. Okay all right because I said cutting the court. I think that that's a pretty. You can't dispute that. It's like whatever the whatever the scissors that's how it works right just use get like some substandard office supply a cut it. That's what I thought it was but apparently it is with a full babies out but yeah there's a big controversy. My brother in law is very adamant about celebrating the birthday on Tuesday Twenty I believe it's the twenty six then. My sister says her birthday will be the twenty seventh so that this is going to be fun. This baby is going to have a fun life every first round two birthdays. I mean that's that's true. Going to be a double double birthday party so anyway. That is a enough that we have to talk about Bobby Hurley. Take so newsbreaks. This week that Bobby. Hurley December sent an email to his athletic director. Ray Anderson about we remember the story. There's a booster enters. The state was basically sexually harassing slash. Allegedly sexually assaulted where reform the spectrum of of what was going on. Disturbing behavior was just very disturbing creepy behavior towards the wives. The wives of a Amazon staffers including Bobby Hurley's wife including Hurley's wife so they address the situation Anderson. The Athletic Director Apparently Tells Hurley. It's going to be taken care of. And then the next game happens and this booster is sitting very close to the core making everyone uncomfortable yet again so hurley sent an email basically saying what the hell's going on here and it's it's very. I don't know aggressive. We'll say a through a freedom of Information Act. Y'All who believes finds this email of course publishes all the details says this is going on and then tries to turn into a thing and Bobby Hurley released a statement this week. This is my relationship with athletic director. Ray Anderson today is strong we will work together. Alongside Mild Standing Coaching staff towards the continued success supplements basketball which to me read like a statement. Says I hate this guy so much. It is the exact statement you put out when you're like I hate this guy and I'm GonNa Overdo it on purpose my statement So there's trouble in paradise state because Arizona State. They're on they're on. They're on the come up. Just wait till Bobby Hurley gets his recruits in their what. This is your to him. You're third third here. He's only he's just got higher. I'll let him get his recruits. Their Amazon state has a good thing going. But now all this other trouble trouble in paradise right because Bobby Hurley. As we've talked about plenty of times he is. Mr December and trouble happened during the paradise of December was December Seventh. So while he's on his throne while he is taking over. College basketball. Not Losing Games watching Martin shots or maybe we're on the floor. He's also dealing with this. He even mentions in one of those emails like it was directed the athletic director's daughter and wife. How how we feel about it. It's about a sliding scale. He granted tour three on a scale as far as what he deemed to be disturbing. That wasn't great And like you said just the idea of scale not ever mind the three but like just the scale in general of on scale of one to ten. How no one's ever like you know that. That's not what we want to see. This puts. We talked about it. We texted off. When I saw the story it puts a weird spin on all the positive stuff that's going on. Hurley would have made the tournament three straight years. They got top recruits coming in It was all spinning the right way. I on a state and now this whole story you could see some programs that probably one top coach Bobby Hurley. Maybe reaching out devolve early and saying. Hey you don't Wanna deal with disturbing behavior from boosters at your school why don't you come to USC not a? Why don't you come you know? Do I mean we can listen? A myriad of schools may be duke in three years But Bobby Hurley. I think this being public opens the door for people to try to recruit him which I think is interesting. Well it which is how I see this plane out. That's that's how I see this which is a bomber because for all the jokes. We like to make about Bobby and boy. Do we like making those shows I have paid more attention to Arizona State basketball in the last few years than I have in my entire life. Probably and it's not just because Bobby Hurley is Bobby Hurley. Like they're actually. It's not just empty calories in and we love the Mr Similar thing and he does have a knack for getting very very hot December and then just fading once. starts but in general the job he is doing. I think you have to agree that he's doing a great job yesterday. Like he's making them relevant. He's they`re. They're winning more often than were accustomed to seeing Arizona State Basketball Program win and it just felt like I don't think I I. I don't think there's anybody that thought. When he took this job that he was going to retire at Arizona. State but Anytime you see a guy like kind of building something like this you start thinking like may maybe could. Maybe there's something here. Maybe this is a long term player. But Yeah I'm with you. I think this is the the beginning of the end of the State Bobby Hurley relationship. And that doesn't mean. I think it's going to happen before next season. That doesn't mean it's going to happen in the next two years but I think the clock is now ticking on bobby early exit or or maybe not. Maybe maybe athletic director. Maybe Anderson leaves but I I am not buying statement whatsoever. My relationship is strong. We will work together You can't send those emails and have that I I don't know I just don't think you can come back from that all that you can't you can't unring that bell of basically emailing your your boss saying what the Hell is going on here. I don't think that bill and I think Yeah the clock is now ticking. But it's just a matter of of win at this point right and there's a there's a countersuit going on with the booster. He he suing for damages. Up The five million dollars at this point saying that it was all overblown and all this sort of stuff as well. So like this thing is going to draw out this is going to be a continued story and To be quite honest with you if I was air zone was the wildcats and I saw this whole playing out in it. I know that I have a lot of heat on me with with the incidental. A our own code for Shawn Miller. Why not go? Try to poach bobby early. So you WANNA stay in this television and the premier program. That's a Blueblood. I mean why not why not. That's what I think will happen with this though. I think it's just this is so that Y- private this story Legitimately dirty laundry that comes out as public. Who knew that we all you had to do is do a freedom of Information Act. We didn't have to ask people to sit a stories. All you gotTa do is ask the public records request at least emails. Yes please we need to see the tapes and Bobby Hurley. After we've seen the tapes I think he is one of the top coaches on the list for people you want to reach out to. I mean we saw the under forty list of Westville. Our number one is that much. Hope for guys to come save a program. I think Bobby Hurley is one of those guys. I don't even think Dan Hurley's one of those guys at Uconn but I think bobby is like I said there's a like a school like have. Ucla didn't get Mick Cronin last year. And they're still wound with Steve Off. You're trying to keep him out less really all. I think that was because my mind immediately. Anytime coach K. disciples news anytime. I started to sniff a divorce between the coach k. Disciple and the school that he's at my mind is going towards what? Where does he fall into coach? K. successor power rankings. We have an updated those in a while by the way. Should we do this? How do we see this right now? Because I think Bobby Hurley might be at the top of the list right now as you not. Who How do you see your better at this than I am? Where what is the coach k? Successor as of today if coach K. announced today Corona virus situation has be freaked out. I just I've done a lot of thinking and I think I'm just GONNA hang up now. I'M GONNA turn it over to you guys want to hire. Where does it go? Who who is the number one guy on the list? The number one guy on the list I think is I'll start with three. I think there's a top. Three number three is is capable at. Pittsburgh and he's doing the ACC You know let let's see if I can build it somewhere else can build a stalwart. Acc to prove myself you coach k. That I can do this. Ike recruited this level. Whatever whatever that's number three number two is Bobby Hurley. The better version of cable any e comes at Duke he has not been in the ACC he is not tainted his image within the ACC comes. Clean it doesn't have the stench of the Oklahoma exit evacuation. Yeah yeah there's not. There's not all the hang ups that come with with the cable re entry into the Duke. Seen Right Bobby Hurley calms. I Remember Volley Bobby Hurley. Remember late near the those of the Duke Teams People Endure of love so much he comes in and and clean things up but number one is simple in its for legacy and that's what coach k. Cares about this bill. We're talking about this is coach K.'s. Empire this is not do helps K. puts the K. In do it just should just be K. And let me just tell you what he wants he wants Larry. Brown has the dean. Smith is coaching tree. He wants the idea that someone can win in the pros and the winning knowledge. I know where you're going with this in the guy that can do that and he has a player in Utah. Donovan Mitchell in the team. That could be built to make a run for title out. West depending on how you feel about the Utah Jazz. When Snyder has always been number one and I think coach K. loves Quin Snyder because Quin Snyder doesn't want to be number one and everyone everyone likes. Who got away. You know what I mean. Everyone's like it was going to call him. What's talked to Kuwaiti? Let's Talk Strategy and I think if when was able to win in the NBA and then come back to college and when it do get that Larry Brown check mark. B The second guy to do that coach k. Has Coaching Tree is? He's passing Smith all across the board in his mind and he's done you can rest in peace. I like it I think I think you're you're onto something happened. What about Whoa Jello? Whoa Joe I feel like the last time we did. This is probably probably well over a year to be honest with you. Would you probably at the top of the list? Well they're four and five right calendar toward your four and five and I think they both like you said with Bobby Hurley. They You know. Put the flag down and said. I'm mark basketball I Love Chris Farley Chris Collins Casey saying we went to the incidentally tournament that one time you guys remember that please believe stay there dark ends an amateur. Have to be off the list at this point. Are they old? Have they been around through lot like you? Don't walk INS is off the list. I think anchor a chance just because he's doing at Harvard. What you have to do it do yeah so I think he's playing the same system and then I would say shire is way too young. They're not going to get the shire anytime soon. But like coach k. Is Not going to retire anytime soon. So I like right now. Shires very low on the list. But what about a world where I for twelve for the next twelve years K Still Koji and Shire is suddenly like forty five and he's been an assistant coach for the last fifteen years. Maybe shires maybe mix shows you what you like Mike White so you always throw Mike White's name out but that's that's the Kevin One. Obviously but that that kid that's not going to be the successor right. Yeah he's the guy after the guy. If nepotism works at Duke what we think it may There's a chance that Kevin. Why call the shots and have coach k? Is that far removed? Let's say quit. Snyder's just not call him back he still chasing the NBA dreams. Will Chris or done capable final? Pittsburgh Bobby Hurley. Said you know some other big time school. And he's at Texas or something he was like. I don't I don't WanNa go back to do. I'm good thing coach. Baby says Kevin. It's your pick Yeah you know and you got your Guy Mike White. He goes up there but yeah it's definitely going to be coach. K.'s. Call in so Mike Way is not happening but yeah I think Bobby Hurley might be. I don't know I I. I'm with you Quin Snyder. Probably Number One but if coin. Snyder doesn't want. Is there even all the other guys on the list? I feel like the one hundred I mean capable one hundred percent. One cable wants it early. Wants it on down the on down the line So of the guys that like actually actively want it early might be the number one and it's just a it's a again. I don't expect anything to happen anytime soon. Hurley's to coach some states issue. You might even coach next year. I don't know but I just I don't any anytime athletic director to coach or getting into this. This is not a I. Don't think this relationship this going to last much longer than a year to especially when the fans are all on the side of the coach pretty avidly. They're basically like we love what we're doing. We're recruiting top. Guys are winning games. What's going on here? Like I said the might be Ray Anderson Leaves Arizona State Bobby Hurley sticks around the he he gets to Higher Bobby. Hurley hires his own boss. And he says you're bring a hand. He Goes Bill. O'brien he is the he just takes over the entire program. Yeah so I stay. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to get rid of Bobby Hurley out of your program. I'm just saying the way the way the power structure currently existed on state. I would bet the House that that's not going to be power structure two years from now. I JUST. I don't I don't see that. That's that's how it's going to work out but I don't know I've been wrong before all right. Let's talk to. Let's talk to Justin Anderson Showy Burr. Manderson Nathanson Yeah. Let's do it are joining us. Now is a university of Virginia legend. He is one of the founding fathers of of the. Tony Bennett will say that. The Tony Bennett era of Virginia basketball I would say it's what's eight Malcolm. Brogden Joe Harris Justin Anderson. Kill Mitchell or those. The four RENTA's may be London. Davey throw parenthesis in there His name is Justin Anderson Justin. I want to start here Your Alma Mater. One Twenty nineteen national title. I just want to get your general thoughts on on how this all played out. Your thoughts is the guy who has I said you were one of the founding fathers. You built this program into its current state and now they win the national title after you graduate. Was there any any sort of resentment where you where did you watch the game? What were your feelings? I'll feel like you deserve a ring. Give us your just overall thoughts on Virginia one in the two thousand nine hundred zero and I mean you just kind of brought back some memories of Paying Michigan for me my Scott Johnson. Those guys those guys really paid the way. They kind of had a slogan they They con the Wa It was the turnaround year. I was young Malcolm Team younger q really young Joe. So those guys really Kinda they they had emission turning around but I came in with the mindset of this is where I'm from my state like they can turn it around when I'm going on a mat so we came in with the same goal in as far as the between one thousand nine hundred who are still ring Jenkins because the grown Iris Those guys were incredible. Like those guys that I helped recruit is so that was kinda sweet in itself so I felt like I was part of it in the sense of like actually knew the guys that knew where hearts and they were really loyal dedicated basketball players and I think that means a lot in the world now because usually guys who wanna come in and make it all about themselves and I wanna go one and done like these guys were on Gaza educated to their process. They all they went through so special connection with me guys. That is well out so I was there at the final four luckily plane in Atlanta in we were Kinda in that. We're at the season. I don't WanNA use tanking but you can with that where you want but at a really cool coach Lloyd Pearson Close we affiliate. I was hearing landon with him as well as I. Your Head Coaching. J. You'd better be gone to the Actually I'll take you back. I didn't know how to ask. How could go to this? Game in Minneapolis. And he breakfast before game. Play Milwaukee Jeddah. Better be going to the game tomorrow. I was like really like I can go is so he agrees to go to fly out there and be be there for for. There are a lot of you guys. They write a lot of the former players. Were were in. Minneapolis for the title game Yeah Me Malcolm Joe Hall in a few of the guys that are. Maybe it's a habit. We were really strong. Yeah that's cool man. That's cool that you guys like all. I don't know I don't need to explain to you. The perception of what Virginia Basketball was before the twenty nineteen title happen. And you guys just all be that family and You know stick behind each other even after the thing I don't know I feel like that was almost a blessing for Virginia. Basketball is like all of the like the narrative of West Virginia basketball became. It's like everyone who was in the program or part of the program. It just made your circle that much tighter than to see you guys all show up at the twenty nine hundred thousand gave state and I were there to we city up. We actually got our tickets and the Virginia section. We're probably sitting not that far from we started pointing out. We saw Malcolm. I know I saw Devon Hall there to I. We just started pointing all the guys. Are there just. How cool was that? I'm not sure if every program would have that but you guys seem to have that. And that's that's one of the coolest things about Virginia thing. It was super worked for us. Because like you said we kind of saw the groundwork that was kinda late to give their name at go you know my curtis unbelievable strict goes obviously. Tv His name his ASS for themselves. But we I was our motive is like we're GONNA get coach a new weight room in the only way they can get a new weight room as if we were national championship. Point hopefully been working on his weight room now but you know we kinda saw everything we have been visioned it for ourselves and it's kind of like I want to play like caring a little bit right on a going. He do something you know you achieve something a High Level ACC championship. We got the chance to be able to accomplish. It will be like all. We're going to go get this championship. We kind of fell short. Have Someone Your family member your child or whatever kind of come up and do editing. You feeling that kind of You replace super proud of those guys demanding to this day like continue. This is something that we could just talk about in for next wiped down yet. You mentioned Family Justin and one of the things that we talked about Once upon a time was that Tony Bennett is very similar to a modern version of Dean Smith. Right needs is had. This controversies this early on people don't like the system. You know there was some some of that that happened with four quarters Carolina. Run up and down the run. Four corners people take Was Cheating the game that way people said that about Tony Bennett in decision. That Virginia was running. Maybe not that far but they were just upset with how they they were playing. But now you see you guys have this podcast together. You guys are all talking to each other. All the time. Coach Bennett is is always hanging out in it. It just seems like Virginia like Duke as the Brotherhood. Carolina has the Carolina family. What is the Virginia version of that? What would you guys call yourselves or is it just a family? And he don't nickname her Monica or a Hashtag or anything like that kind of goes with are also is boring as it comes. I mean we're just support. He is at were band of brothers We don't have any hashtags anything kinda going for ourselves. We're just a bunch of guys who we came together. We were kind of you know use force in we use defense to help us land. We just knew that if we did this together we get we can enjoy the rest of our know being able to bond over championships own wishes cool nicknames early. Bang we have any Becomes much did you guys pay attention to the outside noise a particularly in twenty fifteen when when I think. Twenty fourteen was the breakthrough year for Virginia basketball. When you guys he doesn't want to. Acc that you're right. Yeah Yeah you want you want. Acc twenty four. That was kind of like the put. Been a ball on the map of two thousand. Fifteen was the year you guys like had high expectations. Of course you have the finger injury and we all know how it happened there but throughout that entire season off it was basically like you in Kentucky. The to you guys had to the greatest defenses. I've ever seen and all my. You're watching college basketball. Were basically you in Kentucky that same season and a lot of the narrative around college basketball. That you're was how unwatchable became a lot of it. Was your fault you in particular. You Basically Malcolm Brogden That became like the narrative. College basketball was like you. Malcolm Brogden Willie Cauley Stein. Ruining College basketball. Nobody can score on these guys An in Virginia just the perception of West Virginia basketball was Kinda. Got Out of control. There how much you guys pay attention attention to that you like revel in. This is awesome to see that. Like you're driving all these people in saying that they can't even watch if they feel like you guys are breaking basketball or you just block out all the noise and just focus on winning and that's pretty much it. I mean I remember I think. Put an article the club. Trillion or Yeah right boosted on walkmans crazy. I mean like everything was just fallen into place. Everybody felt a part of it on which I was and I remembered beaten. The apartments Best Friend in college and I remember watching the news. Gaza just like babies ruining basketball. You see article on twitter. These guys are ruining basketball. And at the time we're just twenty one year old guys trying to make it like we're trying to your family's lives we're trying to change our own on not only that where institution that requires so much from you from scholastic standpoint right like finished my degree as we speak in. We're we're doing all of this and for people to just constantly disrespect. We were number will behind the team in Kentucky. Excuse me we're number. Two of them. Were behind the team conflict. Run we're watching. Tv just like please just lose lubes Lube these guys. Obviously that teams town. The second book was coming off the interim tells you a lot But it got to applaud. We were just like yellow. Let's see him like let's figure way to make this thing happen. We wish college basketball work. That way. Obviously schedule's been the line way we need to but at the same time it's like man we're putting in all of this. We're doing all of these lateral slides in practice man. We're doing all of this stuff. Practice athlete disrespect so we kind of took it personally. Put that Shit on shoulder and we were like are human respect what we do now. I think it's Ross. Seen I believe is his name. He always sweets up Virginia basketball a thing of beauty Rusting rusting is a little late to the party. I mean if Tate Nike Patterson justice why this is where we were very early. Adopters to the to the ball. We we loved what we saw. I'm glad you brought up the article. I didn't want to be the one to bring it. Yes as everyone was saying you guys are Breaking College. Basketball's like this is actually amazing. Like I love how Virginia plays on. You guys played so well together. Particularly like twenty fifteen year that was. I don't know it was so fun to follow you. Guys all season and then take night became so invested in Virginia's program and we want to Tony validated. So badly and then it just kept not working out in March. Basically every That's that's part of the reason we were there at the title game was like we sat in the Virginia Were idiots that that that felt like we were somehow invested in this even though it was really no rhyme or reason why we should have been so invested. Yeah I mean it just. It just finally came to play. We just started to like I said use that as a chip on my shoulder man. We just started to finally realise are we talking buys his great. I grew up in Virginia so we will talk to my shots. Seecretary is the individual. Weren't talking about bridging program. You know it's a situation now where we put a program on only for each other so it all makes sense. I wish we could get past Michigan State of the two years in a row. They couldn't handle us. That was a great program they did but you know. Got The radio supposedly champions champions. I WANNA take it back just to the you mentioned me from Virginia and when you were young kid you're in fifth grade you decided the dunk basketball and from there. The legend started to grow up. You decided that's how it worked as you said you know what I might as well just dumped his basketball and let people know what's up And then from day the legend Kinda grew a little bit around you in eighth grade. You know a lot of people. There was a lot of hype. You go to Montrose Christian Academy there's terrence Ross Grievous Vasquez Kevin Durant all these guys. All these names were there. And you know you're an athlete. You're you're known as an athlete. But then you have to kind of grow your game and you earn your role there and you grow into your role and then you decide that. You're going to go to Maryland and Gary Williams is the coach in Maryland at the time. And they're still in the ACC in that whole situation is totally different dared mention Grievous Vasquez. Who was rate at Maryland will? What was that process like growing into the basketball player that you become right? Go from fifth grade all that hype and dealing with that and then obviously dealing with Gary Williams because he's one of our favorites here on the program. There would be so super cool to play for him. I remember him. Grapes always going at it so much energy in that. That's my that's my character like I was like I got to do when I get to do it. So so that would have been able to do but I grew up in a small town Much Rosser Population about eighty four hundred people on even to this town so to get wherever you needed to go. Arms form area was allowed back roads and things like this brought a lot of bikes into the play of dunking. If agree brother was in school bills in the middle of my favorite year in a row for will run off from couldn't necessarily afford the remote front we had the crate. You had the milk crate of necessary. I think that's that's probably the hardest room I've ever shot on issuer but that graduated to get into Ram also that we were super dedicated to playing every day. We got Ram we. Kinda just started succeed dunking different trades and watch it honored on contests and kind of just like trying to emulate things. Were smaller insult jet. Moving out and then fifth grade. We were auxiliary gym at. George Watt is naturally Washington. University was on that now. Drawn a blank. My brothers played in May Washington. University were playing. He was laying. It's another school and joining. Blankets is frustrating. Kind of blacks. We're of auxiliary jam and I remember my house like Y'all go get it like you can do it. I was like Ireland Dry Right Donald Dunkin and I think we both each other. We can do this and everything else. Just kinda history Spent a Lotta time dedicated myself to the crash in. Obviously you've athleticism as long as I could. I had to grow something else in the shortly after the three ball came in. Obviously defense is something that is just a will to warrant is a to on missile. We pair of with Virginia's boring they need so flair. They don't have any athlete. So just go be an athlete there and try to speed them up a little bit and trying to make them more interesting to wash. Kristen the jumping more things can work out the way they did. I'm just picturing the the opening scene of space jam with you. Say you're in fifth grade and you're like I think I'm just GonNa go and you're just looking at the rim and that messed me up space. Jam Messed me up so bad when I was little I watched that movie and I was like I think. I'm just going to be I if I just go out there and I put our Kelly and my headphones in I'll be able to. I'll be able to jump and don't I believe you. That's Zia except for us reality. It's like me. It was kind of Riyadh you mentioned development of Virginia. You're three or guy So we're currently in the part of the the college basketball calendar transfers are the the big thing and and everyone's talking about which programs they're going to and then it becomes like a larger discussion about transfer culture in so many guys are transferring. You feel like a a case where you're the argument for not transferring where you show up. Virginia you don't start right away you end up starting at the end of your freshman year than your software. I think he came off the bench. you're playing time is like kind of a little bit all over the place You're playing behind Joe Harris. He leaves you. You said you retool your jump shot coming into your third year and you turn into first round pick and it seems like you know like that. That is what a lot of the college basketball coaches. That roller is it transfers. Like a guy like you'd be like that is the the moderate there so my question. You justice is transferring. Ever enter your mind when you're you know you're you're your sophomore in your plan behind your your coming off the bench and you know how good you are or is this. Did you foresee this the entire way that you could just develop your game and stick it out like that absolutely a game? The Mind Remembers Muscle Law Year. We got blasted by Tennessee. We talked about this a little bit on our casts in London. He was the Gordon that we needed in going into this season. We just kind of went off. What happened last year and We knew Malcolm's working on His hammered relentlessly and we knew Malcolm wanted to try to show that he could be appointed so he can help his back. Then Malcolm Tuesday Malcolm a little bit ease up but he still stressed out about making being eligible back then. Malcolm was suber locked enemy. He's probably lacking been around in everyday. He's working his handiwork. In San got complete. I WANNA MAKE. Insulin are will let this year is the year to prove it. You'll play line Joe. BIG ORLANDO. Go to see. They just show how just not. We're not ready to play that one at all in London's just a freshman in his Kelly pace was perfect at the opposition in our office because he hasn't dogs wing next time to get after the so for me are to that to that really like offensive. I was like here. I am Kinda take an insulin. This university taking a chance on this program to be from here and come here and use it up. After leading Maryland in control for Jason La Costa recruiting me in that moment he realized that McCain Kinda went on be caught a little bit because I started to be my own head. I knew Burnett Coupla the big time schools that I won't mention because obviously Virginia her into pop song to me in my pops like well. You know there's this one team that that that they're dying. Have you like they keep calling? They WanNa Championship the year before. So you know. Who's you know? They are hungry. I'LL GIVE A. They were hungry. Ima- you know. What like their athletes. It just came across not. I'm not one that's going to run away from any type of competition. I'm not witness. Go wrong with any type of versity on which to me. I haven't had to experience Montrose. Waves in anywhere in my playing career. So this is so actually this actually change everything once I realize it's six million a year trophy in. Acc Awhile Nice it kind of all once. I realize like you know what I'm GonNa do advocating to feed in and I just put myself in a position to say I'm GONNA do whatever it takes for. This seem me Anthony Gill action. We're going through the same thing. At that time we just would be like. Yo should be dolls. The Bachelor sticking this thing out shortly after this war came. They called me one day. It was like get your finalists and they just wanted. I was like okay. That was never my old on. It was cool to be able to go through that kind of path that experience and it helped me because now I'm in the NBA. The constant down in the cost. You have to be the fifteen may one year in San of Maine another like it. All of it has really helped him playing career. So so the guys who were just you know I'm GonNa transfer because I wanna do me this and that this was never been. Yeah and I remember just in the few in that six months of the year trophy right this summer. Going Joe Harris leaves he goes to the NBA. You're going to the starter. That's moving into the starting lineup. And Tony Bennett tells you that coachmen and tells you that and then there was a story of right that you went to Chicago and you worked out with your cousin who was playing for the bears time and and work with with the trainer that was like civil trainer and all sorts of stuff. I can't remember the name of it was but I remember that story because you guys beat North Carolina in the Dean. Dome in two thousand fifteen and and I was at that game and I was like how did just get so good at shooting the basketball from the quarter. What is going on here? That you had like seven assists in that game as well and What was that summer like it in the coach Bennett? Put that on you to go in and do that or did you do there on yourself because like you said you're making that transition from six started. Well you kind of know the reason why Choose up a little bit for that. Unc game we talked about it. A little podcast token so I'll but outside of that me I went into the next season in a new job was leaving so we knew there was opportunity but versus Before the communities as the first year was nothing that you get here will be given like you have to earn so my new joe new going to be lacking shooting and I always been able to shoot the ball and I actually like the ball on from Beyond College Ranger. Nba Range on. It was just a matter casino ahead to figure out consistency on at a younger stage in my life than a Lotta people do. Because if I didn't I wasn't consistent you know shooting the basketball and Clinton work I could have lost my again potentially that I still have been already so what I did was my cousin. Place in innovative Career Champion germont wrong with New Orleans Saints Finished with Miami Dolphins on. I got the chance to go out there and spend some with him because two summers in a row now here at UBA. We had some success. But I can't be on this campus. It's again I come from here. I've been Jima whole And he was living in Chicago at the time. Claiming debaters in it was just a discipline that he showed me with his wife in cases of waking up every day. Same time breath is prepared. We're going to do our job instruments. Then we're going to go to the court and I decided to work Steve Out of Chicago. Who's phenomenal shooting development coach so when I came back from Chicago Sprint maybe three or four weeks when I came back from Chicago Mandatory Beckett? This time everybody in the email schedule. I came back in the gym doormat routine and I remember remember coach. Been Anchorage Wilfred kind of watch our neighbor laughing and I took offense to Ecorse so you kind of to devote my game but this is funny to you in kind of pissed me off in the sense of art like he'd laughing. GonNa you guys that I did without supposed to came back better. So coach Bennett actually kind of started to like what I was doing. Like Jerry Lewis. Es Drill where you lounge lunging set aside and shooting Hop forward spin with Kevin Durant pre-game like drills that Steve Kerr nominal when it comes to teaching shooting the basketball and So started to work in our remember. Coachloads came to me would coach. You have to say because I realized that Christina was in my case as my year what is going to say about me. Shooting forty trying to beat his forty five percent. I'm trying to beat his record. His College basketball record like he told us not to say anything to just let you go going. So the recipe season could vindicated. His lead me go. He knew wasn't taking shots. Trying to put myself in a different category in Asia. It's GonNa take the shots. I was actually pretty pretty cool story. About how our out in that? I think he actually started to a dachshund or sensitive to this. Oh that's great so I WANNA talk about this. Because you you're part part of what stood out to me in two thousand fifteen team. Maybe Fall in love with Virginia. Beyond all the reasons we talked about where I kind of just felt like I love the style play but like you and Malcolm Brogdon in particular. Were the two best player on the team in Twenty fifteen. You guys were both so likable. There's something about you guys like you didn't I don't know there's something those very very easy to cheer for you guys you had great personalities And you seem to just be a great represents representatives of Virginia. What was what was always fascinating to me. Was you always seem to have this edge you just in that? Lake? You not afraid to mix it up. We'll say and that has become true as you progress in your career. And so what I wanted to do with. You is basically this just you. You've been in a handful of. We'll call them altercations on a now that now that some time has passed in your emotions of calms. I WANNA revisit. Some of these and I WANNA get your. I want to get a breakdown of what happens and you look back on it. How how much you feel like you are to blame for what happened. That makes sense. Basically what this is my first trip to Charlotte Do Game when justice winslow grab your leg and you stood over like you're gonNA rip his head off and then you help them up and that whole thing and then I I was going to look back on. I was trying to find that today as researched everything and I typed in Justin Anderson altercation or something and there are so many results that came up that I was thinking to myself. How does this happen? How does a guy like this? That is a you know so mild mannered in this interview that we're doing You get caught up in this. But then at the same time justice wins low grabbing. Your leg is not your fault so I wanted to go through each of these individuals. Two instances in in you explain what happened. And how much was your fault now that we're looking back on it. So the Justice winslow thing what happened here Instigate him in any way. Give us give us the rundown here. Their game was college. Game Day right. Yeah it was college game. You guys were one thousand nine hundred at the time and number four in the country. Yeah I yeah yeah so I guess I'm beginning by saying like I think I've gotten to like eight too many altercations in basketball playing career. But we're from and playing at the Ymca Planet we call them. American family fitness another gym that we had in boys and girls all that you get into into these types of things all the right you this will bring so many vowed hard and push a push back but at the end of the you know the people you know the people at the club. You know the people that you know center. You know the people who you're playing against the justice winslow's whoever else were about to revisit so it's more just heated a moment in sometimes. I like to say like a black belt right. Sometimes you like blackout in the moment and then like reality sets back in. You'd have to understand that there are people watching that you know this. Obviously we're like you said nineteen and no country like their people constantly watching in. I can't go and be one person community in the show Out On the court so for me. It's like my parents. Were both of my parents together in everything to this day. They raised me to be respectful. But at the same time. Like you defend yourself when the time is right and for me. It was like in that moment absolutely risk at all. It's like all right justice. Like why would you do that? Shit like bullshit like so realize are he know what so you're in you're in Charlestown? Jp J just like come on man like that's uncalled for and afterward have the conversation with a Florida competition. But if I couldn't imagine if we're I would be right now. That situation plant out and I just thought on. Yeah Yeah Well. Those one of the funniest one of my favorite clips is just just because you had the visceral reaction readers. Like I'm going to kill this dude and then you call yourself into split-second or you know what instead of that. What if I just help them up immediately? Went from like war to like add. Never Mind I'll I'll let cooler heads prevail all right so so that that was that was the genesis of this idea and then as I started investigating more the one the other one. That's Kinda funny looking back on. Is the one from the preseason this year Marcus Morris bounce the ball your forehead? Wait before you go into the Marcus Morris okay. Here's one that you're missing the one that I was tripping on was that was I have. I have that on the list. We can do that one. Go to the new one. Yeah you were. Boxing out and your arms get tangled up. What what happened there so already knew he was a big dude. In can't I can't even like a kind of wish I could see again but I just remember. After the Game Darren Williams vet grey. Goose still talks to him to this day. I remember Darryl's like Yo you know he's like blacked-out or whatever it is that he has now. It's like well. I don't know how you're mad strong. You just like take my harmon. Lock me up Romola Rolla. Yeah so in the moment I was just a young kid. I was young. I kinda hot headed and now like I commend was so bad and they you know how. Nba fights are right like right. Created a whatever on. But it's like it's more just an intense heated conversation. You know right in front of each other but that that one that one I think that was the only one that I will say restricting because this is as Jalen Jalen rose says hold me back right around only back. Yeah I had on the list. Art Will Save the Marcus Morris. One for less about that. What about the Dwayne Wade One? Where the way way just inexplicably grabs your arm and you into the first road during the playoffs. What happened there? What's the story behind that? Well that was. That was the media row. Not The first right. Pay All right in that. That was another situation where asylum later actually end up coaching sign in the NBA. Top one hundred and it was kind of apple in cried down in house. Joe was is everything. Whatever we With that was just playing basketball. I remember Lloyd Coach he's a defensive coach in in Philly and he grabbed a hold of me and TJ McConnell He. He talked to revoke individually but he told me he was a hey TJ in talking to you we're GonNa need you both offensively to try to stop you. Wait a second unit which one you were put. Over keeping Thirteenth Man is going twelfth thirteenth man and out. I'm trying to. I'm trying to concede Stephen. Aba and trying to keep my career up in so he right book. Do whatever you gotta do. I need you to get in his head and you lock them down. I need you to do whatever it takes to kind of. Keep them from killing us because he's coming off the bench second unit when they win they win the ball games based off weeks so I kind of initiated that one lead you waited goaded. He's wanted are always growing up on initiating. That won't because when I came into the game shared right at his at it is. Kinda yeah type stuff but I just wanted to prove to my coaches like look whatever you guys need me to do. I'm willing to do. We ended up on. Win that series But I think because I kind of initiated by just touching them too much kind of buffing was doing everything just to get under. His wing was on a box out on to boxing form in. He showed me how strong he was in that. In that instance then fast forward a few plays later. He comes down he young. These are all like Internet. Means that you never want part of the I guess. In now he crosses over in. He misses the shot so I was good he made. It could've been sure. But that's what you want though if it like that him throwing you into the media. Isn't that validation that you're doing a good job like that's exactly what you're trying to do is frustrated right and with all due respect obviously hall of Famer like Bishou or they're even laced On it he wasn't able to do whatever he wanted. If you know the season before that I mean he was healing guys especially Houston big time my gang winners against a silly He was doing against us in so. I'm sitting on the bench like all you have to do this. And so now is my prove that is a matter who you are. I can gorge. Yeah Yeah Yeah all right so I had I had a few others are associated. Carmelo Anthony Guys WanNa really an altercation. it was just a back and forth in guy heated guys had to come in and that was a hold me back for sure and like no one really didn't really get physical but you guys were definitely John. What what was the story there? Twenty seventeen I believe because I think I got into eight too many of these things. Well that's what that's Hilarious to me. I didn't realize that this was her thing with you. Until and what's funny about? It is so many of them are. It feels like they're not your fault. You're just trying to block out the way and you described your arm but throws you and justice winslow's grab your leg Blake I. That's why I wanted. I wanted to get to the bottom of this. Justin is this. Your fault is our just a do. People Hate Virginia style of basketball. Before like what's going on here I think the biggest thing right is like nobody likes to be touched like I was watching the Jordan documentary in. I think my pops was preparing me for that. He didn't see the game changing this. We're GONNA pull up two steps over half core. You grab it by the before your head back. It's automatic file. He didn't prepare me for that. I mean I was playing against grown men emphasis was like ten or eleven years old and like I said rec centers former pros You know play two years up or three every year like I was a freshman playing seventeen Williams kindle Marshall and James Do and Travis Mataya Andre Dawkins I mean these are guys that were just bigger stronger fashion to me and I had to figure how could you know. Hold my own in a guy like mellow. I mean when he's Range if you don't touch them a little bit he's going bare issue in our. You know what I'm trying to carve out a better way for myself in you know but food on or played my family take care of. Everybody had to go out there and do whatever it takes against us. And that's one thing I think that a lot of teams and people respect me for that unwilling to card wherever point guard but with the whole thing was the same scenario it was kind of a running joke. Joel about it and then we liked joked about it for the rest of the season because he kept saying. Don't do that do that. Don't do that and it was like how great you have to be. Just three words in in Ysmael just like I like you. GotTa Make It easy for. You was just trash-talking man. It was just a lot of buffing. them later again at the end of the season career high against them in it was distract enemy. Necessarily IT WASN'T. It was obviously no disrespect or anything you know. I obviously have once again hall of Famer. Huge respect for mellow comes from the same area Maryland Baltimore area so I mean huge amount of respect. But it's just competitive fire in for me. Every night is a playoff game. When you're thirteen like I said thirteen fourteen fifteen guys. You don't get time to just go out there. It'd be cool and try to just you know trying to play everything own ear. I mean for me. I have to be able to gradient. Sometimes it gets you in a little bit of trump all right so the one I would say might be your fault and you can. You can disagree with me. It was the Russell. Westbrook dancing in the play offs. Where he he was dancing villain away like kind of walk in front of them. And you're trying. Antagonize them justice trying to listen. It wasn't muscle the day before we are in the playoffs as a as a rookie. Dallas Riccar loud legend. The Boston Celtics in two thousand eleven. Mba Champion loved my time in Dallas love coach. Carlisle Mark Cuban. All those guys the meeting before we play. Okay see coaches pissed because campaign and Russ West for. Do these dances before every game. He's like I'm just waiting for one of these suckers that just go out and interact one of those days. Charlie and the waiver says coach. You know what I mean you got it. What is so Charlie? We do our handshakes with our own team wrote. Let's go like I'm like. I'm like whatever so Rome bagging. Videotape cut short. Come right back. And he doesn't say complaints were with. That was twenty one and I was. I was real funny. Yeah you trying to play it off as though like you don't realize right there is so funny. Okay let's do the Marcus Morris one. We'll end on that one in the preseason. This year everyone seen the clip. If you haven't disco Goule Justin Margaret it's objectively. Just I'm sorry you fell victim to this but it is objectively funny. It's something in all my years of watching basketball. Never my life seen a guy. Just take up all BOP a guy in the face of you really must have been pissed off like what the Hell is the story here. I know you guys like getting into it a little bit before that happened but we never got into actually was interesting to me. What was really weird to me is human like I'm trying to make it seem and I'm not gonNa make any rainy to happen but at the same time like what happened happened in. It is what it is right and so the game. I'm trying to make the team in. I'm not sure asking brand like yellow. Like what are you GonNa do? Whatever so he like just killing killing the training Camp John Wall saying the same thing on. Just keep going to kill us so we play these guys who've been in there on this tough guy saying already right we remember probably for this kind of talking about some of that stuff earlier so before to gain. I was like I I see him started. That game matchup was a Muslim is so we started the game. And he's like I'm like A. Let's go look this year whenever stay healthy. He's like you too young fellow keep going. I see its on like like I didn't think anything of it. Whatever so at the time he wanted to prove himself for being like a score for them. If you watched the first half of that game he got a jacket. Obviously the second that but if you watch that like. I Made Everything. Tough made it very difficult. Come out of the game and he just goes on this chair. Somebody else's Garda. He goes on a tear. He's getting fadeaway breeze turnaround post up the only two voices scores on me which was a bad call. He got he gets to the cup foul any gets an one goes through my mind. League is the Emlyn no trash talker. Anything he said but he bounced me a is a we call him back. I would like is part of what it is right so then we come back out now. We're not doing that. We're not GonNa what I'm like. What am I just avenue? I like? Where's Charley Villanueva? I didn't need it because somebody going to sticking the only time you do. That is that you're crossing he also. Yeah Yeah so happen so we I I would say on a pressure up because I'm not sure he's already a seventeen year a great first half not against me. But I'm going back to do. My job is so a pressure up in droves the elbow and I look at me. I'm like ed by that. Was this close down the fingernail closer to take him whole knows off the mind. This is the most random you're not. We're not doing that. We're not doing what like. There's no doubt I don't also we should say it's preseason yes that matter is is so you know look at it. I'm like Yo. Ed What's going on and by the time. I look back in. I'm getting hit. Handled the ball in my. I'll even the make of it in like. Of course like look after the fact like everybody has twitter rangers come back into the reports blasting in now. I will say there was a moment where I was really embarrassed and I wish I would have done something about it in the moment but then look back at it and it was just in a bunch of guys around Lee. Hit me up whenever in. That's what kind of made me realize like I cool. Whatever it was like for me I was like like. Where did that even come from? I don't like it's never been any whatever so when I hit I don't even know how process it is. So you guys you guys have got game right. Yeah of course I if I could go back ruined excited to I don. I forget who it was but the guy that you start playing on these things man with should I hope? So we'RE GONNA we're GonNa Lord Immigra- throat read. That's where you're GonNa go quick when you of look back at it. He kind of look back on it. You say like you know what it is what it is glad that you know where I wanna be in life once again with the justice winslow distract where you wanna be is so much further than like Chris Johnson. Kobe Bryant Right Chris the best to pieces Koby Bryant. That's not what I'm here for like rations that go far beyond being just NBA basketball player. And I I to be able to get broadcasting and do things at the highest level so like that's a part of just who I am. I'm Kinda forward baking. That's not the message that I wanted to send other people on but the worst part about it is that like it comes across Baio sweet. We're just so wild to me is. You're obviously a nice guy a off the court. At least you don't have a reputation as far as I know is like being a dirty player. It's not like it's not like you're giving these guys. Cheap shots retaliating. You're just kind of Italianised. And you just gotTa play good defense what it seems like. What is this phoney? Look at back when you when you kinda stack them on top of each other. It's like is this do just that unlucky guys snap and just throw start thrown around. Wanted to fight him or see doing something. That's why I had to ask us. I decided to ask what no it's actually great. Because I never really talked about it like I refuse be I see me after. Choose to be that guy like when the moment comes That's what it is but is lawrence like trying to make it a big Ole public thing because knowing that kind of was the victim. If you will like that's not really why is it is what it is it happened? It's GonNa it's GONNA retire. It's our media. Right is going to recycle. You've got to kind of do. It's really like you as you know that these things happen off these things happen in practice all the time as you said you're growing up playing against guys older new. I'm sure there's a ton of altered like this is not it's not like there's the I don't know any cause for concern. The Guy's playing basketball will get into it every so often. That's a that's a normal thing to happen on basketball courts but anyway I don't know I just thought I thought it was pretty funny. They are the Larry's when I when I when someone put together the compilation of me getting into with everybody is like I gotta chill. Yeah I mean that's what comes with locking up and that's a good that's a good thing. Yeah that's a good thing. You're gonNA spend the narrative and say that you would have been great nineties basketball player and just pander to that era you know what I mean. Start talking to the Charles. Barkley of the world yes Akilah Neal's of the world start sending them tapes of you playing hard defense. You know what I mean. That's that's the next move. If that's the case they moved the first thing that they will say to me is lying should push them face. Flew back to back the those. I can't even handshake. I definitely can't punch right before we let you go. I I'd a couple of other questions number one. Can you give us any insight into Tony Bennett? That people don't know. Is there anything to Tony Bennett? Does that does not fit with his image line with his image does he have. Does he have a back Tattoo does he? Does he ride a motorcycle? Does the you know is. Is there anything to Tony? Like will be like wow. I didn't see the smoke cigarettes. Is He a chain smoker? Like is there anything that like or is really just as like straight lace as as we as we see on. Tv will if there were if there were over top. Hollywood even share it with you. Yeah you'd you'd be trouble if don't know if I'll get in trouble but this is family right he's like HAMAS figure. It's not only need office but know I mean. He's just a solid comment. He's a great example. The religions say through competitive. He he always talk about how. Jesus was this great man when at the same time she's Walker Ryan like he will come back and you know. Show fight when it when it was time is right and everything Season he you know He. He's just a great duty super competitive like he plays Ping Pong in. He tries to take it down on. He competitions trying to kill you. Any your trash talker. Yes yes 'cause you don't expect it though. Not like he's GonNa he's GonNa get a hold jim behind him in everybody's always talk crazy today. Now it's like you you'll get you'll get into a competition with you if you might. His game starts wearing you out your tongue hanging out. That's when you just saying things like will get so he'll wear you out kind of like you just lie. He's who guy like he you know everybody wants to be like TV nowadays right his job. Well all right. That's good. My other question was I was not aware that this was the Virginia tradition until I went to Charlottesville for the for the title Parade Celebration Day and all the fans. They're trying to get me destroyed the lawn and they told me about what the strict law with Kyle. Guy Came on the podcast. We asked him if he if you street the lawn stroke. Long stroke If the did he ever streak on he. He confirmed that he did Justed have you ever streak the lawn and for those? That don't know this means like what you get naked you run across the quad basically average. This is the traditional. Yes it's like. It's like the Rotunda the back of the room these steps. I guess the traditions from our taught you take your clothes off at the top of the steps rundown this stairs as they get you run around big statue at the end. It's probably sixty yard run. Maybe in run bag so my first time doing it was in the rain. I knew I was going to. I knew I was GONNA have to do it. S them myself. More year went in. I did it because I was in the rain and was a group of us than win winded in that came back and it was just it was just also junior year earliest junior year actually had to go the second time on because I was out ran into a beautiful lady. I have my friends in the restless history so actually Actually restrict actually want twice. Removed counts for anything inputs meeting in the legendary board on his definitely. I wonder what I wonder what the record is the all time record for Virginia students. Probably thousands is. That doesn't every hole this things that you're supposed to do before you graduate in. I don't even know if on the third of that list complete. It's it's it's a lot but you gotten drunk and gotten on the tables at the Virginian. That's the thing to or have you have. You fell down the stairs at Trinity. Those are the three things I was told her. That is slip when I caught myself. I didn't have many times I've seen people though. Yes I'm UNMADE. People bust their ass. I lived in myself. Luckily but is lawyers drinkable any surgery. when actually? I didn't enjoy that was waiting for drafted so I never did the drinking on top of the Virginia Obviously because I wasn't a fourth year like we have these heat tunnels that run all through the bottom of the the the the grounds in you're supposed to like go in one of those tunnels which sounds dangerous but people all the clapper so like I said. I'm not even a thorough week on review to make sure I got that undermine that is pretty much every tradition that every college is is sounds dangerous but people do it all the time that that is how you some of the College Experience. I think in this country back right now. Working all citizen might be Undergrad. Degree also won't be able to do this from my parents. They didn't go through this whole process for me to go three Not Given a chance to finish it up so hopefully some of these things when I graduate from we get goal. We'll tell you we've got anything else for him. The now I was GonNa say I appreciate you coming on justice for people that don't know you guys have the podcast right locker room access. And it's all of Virginia guys. It's rotating in and out talking about basketball so if you already enjoy. Marquette is an talking in fawning over Virginia Basketball. Listen to Justin and all the other guys actually yeah. If you like US talking about Virginia basketball you might like guys that actually know Jack over Justin. Thank you so much for joining us. Contenders success Please continue antagonize people. Let don't let me pointing this out that you should stop. That was not the point of this. This is just a funnel exercise for doing here. We Love Your brand basketball. We always have both Virginia. And you individually Thanks for joining us. Good luck with everything appreciate you appreciate absolutely. I'm I'm not initiate anything but whatever happens it. Kinda comes with the territory. I appreciate it sir. All right thanks just Anderson coming on and Titus I have to tell you that story. He mentioned that Carolina game in two thousand fifteen. He went off and he was like you know the reason for that. Tatum was because North Carolina. Jp Tokens over just neighbors and in that specific game. He decided to remind him of that and I was there. I saw it on person. It it it still hurts hard to the. So is the implication there that he wanted to Carolina or he he wanted he just wanted Carolina to hand he wanted. He was Vince Carter Fan so he was like. I'm a big North Carolina Basketball Fan at one point but they didn't prioritize top fifty guy. They took token toe. And then like I like what you mentioned during the interview that he needs to rebrand himself as like a guy who would have thrived in. The nineties is dislike Try TO TRY TO MAKE HIS WAY. Onto every one of those lists where people are like which which players would have been awesome in the nineteen nineties. He's got the Jordan attitude of being offended at all times. How many times did you mentioned kind of I kind of took that as a personal affront personal slight to me. You're like okay all right. They took JP Tocado. And I took that as A. Yeah I love it. Love the attitude. I'll take suggests that he's he's great. I I love. I don't know if it's cool to have him on Vividly remember watching him in Virginia. And I don't know that that's one of the that's investments. You and I made very early was Virginia basketball. That'll be paying off for restaurant. I it's so great that Virginia Suck this year. We didn't talk about Virginia at all season on the podcast. A Virginia fans care because they were in the bag for them and they know yeah not for the rest of her life and they also knew that they were very good. This year also agree. That's the other part of it the whole thing so all right. Let's wrap this thing up outs. Closeouts what we get a shot off for me Mac Mc lung he commits. It's Texas Tech Chris. Beard The King of a transfer portal King of transfers the king in Lubbock all around and crispier obvious McClellan coming in return to the MAC. I don't know how this really fit but team. He's trying to get the waiver if he plays this year I saw a lot of college basketball. Hoop heads Very excited about the fact that it would be saw. Johnny Jews ain't got the waiver the Kentucky Kid. Ucla he just got a waiver. And I don't really think he had much of a leg to stand on and I don't say that because I didn't want him to get the waiver. I want all the guys who get the waiver but I just as like a an objective bystander. I'm like why I don't understand why you gotta waiver so the fact that Gave him one. It bodes well for all these other guys that are just going to do the pandemic route I think is that the move your dislike. I have corn brain and I I need to change of scenery so I gotTa Get. Outta here like all right. Yeah that sounds right. Chris Beard Walsum. Let's go so who's left to the transfer portal at this point. I'm trying to think of who the top guys are. I wouldn't even know who would be what happens. What if the transfer portal? What if you just unplug the transfer quarter? What happens are all stuck there forever like it's like a Black Mirror episode. I forever the transfer portal. I wish I could get out. Yeah I don't know who's I don't know who's left to. We have to figure that out for for content purposes so he can ham it up and draw author. Recruitment put out their top seven. Kind of stuff. I WANNA shout out the NBA The the National Basketball Association announced this week that they may be potentially might be coming back. Eventually that's all. The chatter in the sports world is that the NBA is throwing out all these plans to come back. They are good friend. Kfc But article how they're considering this World Cup type format of having groups that then the groups the winners of the groups then go onto a bracket and play in and have a real playoff and then there are other people are like no that will never happen It's going to happen this way. But the everyone's arguing meanwhile woes. You're saying that it's probably going to be August if the season comes back because if it's going to be any earlier than that they probably announce it now to give enough of a runway to have all the guys get shaven logistics in place So yeah that's cool. It feels like it's coming back but it's also not show to MBA. Showed THEY'D BE. There's a lot of hope and optimism but like you said not a lot of answers especially specific answers about what it will actually look like in you know. I think the one thing that I have to say about the the so quarantine and professional athletes is a Lotta people. I've I've seen it to think that you can like flip. The switch guy like guys just Oh Green. Light the playoff. Let's go like we're going to be exactly where we were before again. I want to remind people to Gupo. Best Player in the Eastern Conference did not have a basketball goal at his house. Hasn't been able to play basketball. I mean I guess he's been able to go the facility at some point but like there's a there's a myriad of reasons for it to be kinda crazy and kind of wild and if football really is ago like everyone's saying it is you get into August in the NBA could competing football season. I here's my fix for the day. Here's what I think they should do. I think they should delay it until like Season in like. I don't know late October. And then from there just like play out like a full season and then have the playoffs in April or May and then have like the championship. Have the finals in June of next year is when I think should happen in other words? Just cancel the season. I felt like the right plan. You know just like I feel like does for read. I don't want them to cancel the season. I feel like you need to make that clear that that I as a sports guy do actually want the sports the comeback I want I want. Nba back but like it feels it just feels like classic like NBA Dominate. The conversation. Get everyone talking about how coming back. But there's no concrete plan in everyone's arguing about like what the plan actually is. Are they going to Disneyworld? And are they not and It just feels like it's inevitable that is gonNA drag out forever individually no one's GonNa and then you have like Damian Lillard coming out like I'm not GonNa play if what am I gonNA play. Three Games definitely not making the playoffs like the at stupid. He'll put myself at risk to other teams are like. Why would we try to win? You're pretending like we have a chance to make the playoffs. We all know we don't. We're not even GONNA try because it's going to ruin our lottery. Physician is this is all absolute Lord draft and we definitely want. Lamelo ball coveted. It's just a it's just of everywhere you turn. It feels like people have a problem with it so I don't know it's it's a bummer. But I don't know they'd be as coming back though. That's the headline. That's that's important tickly. Disneyworld that was the greatest headlines. Been of all time and Yeah it is funny because like in college basketball. Said we don't have a champion. There is no shaping. We've already seen it at one major basketball a venue. I think we will probably see some people some players specifically that may start with an L. That will be very the season is canceled and they may he may claim a you know an AP type title like the One thousand nine hundred eighty four. I think that's what they're trying to avoid as well like players upset that sense but it's I don't know it does feel like the. Nba has a better shot of coming back baseball though which is absolutely staggering to me and very frustrated. That baseball can't figure this shit out because Yeah it feels like baseball is nowhere close to be figured out a as a baseball game. Not Happy about that but I'm not either but it seems like fans can social distance in the stadiums. It seems that there's enough room usually especially at a Tampa Bay Games sticky marlins man and I guess that's never mind that's the MARLINS. Aright what else are we got? Jason Terry Assistant coach. We mentioned Arizona earlier. I'm hoping that he can stay there. When they hire bobby early he's going to go down to Arizona to beat assistant coach and You know he's trying to bring back that old. Lute Olson style we we love that style down in Tucson and I'm excited about Arezzo Zona got commitments from these Lithuanian twins. They now have six international commitments in their twenty twenty six international guys in there recruited class very Gonzaga very west coast. I kinda like it as an aside has nothing to do with the point completely separate point for completely separate thought from what I just said the F. B. I. has no jurisdiction in Europe date. Throw that out there. As well has no no relation whatsoever to the Arizona Point. I just wanted to also bring that up that a six six European guys on their European or International. I think six year International. But you know who does the CIA? And I think I think they're mixed That's the next big scandal. I'll I wanNA shout out Aaron. Who tweeted today that her dad laughter a briefcase at her house and before she returned to her dad's she went through it and found money. I retweeted it with eyeball emojis. A which as we know as Chris. Mack taught us doesn't mean anything just means I see this tweet it. You're you're not offering any commentary whatsoever. You were just saying I have read this tweet which all ever saying And then she deleted it date. She deleted the tweet but apparently Aaron Calipari is Lloyd Christmas. It seems like John. Calbury drafted trust a briefcase full of money somewhere in an air. Barricade sprinting through. The airport did a sliding grab a briefcase. And now she's going to have the Gasman follow her across the country to ask them. I guess I can't believe that there was not the one to one where it was like. Maybe this money could be related to something else I find that. Actually Kinda flattering. You know kind of quaint. That there was no thought of of any business which makes me think that maybe no coach catches so clean. You know what I mean you could never think about. I feel like that but yeah this was a great tweet. This is a great moment for you and I were like bag dropping but but I don't Wanna a briefcase being drive case does not yeah. That's that's that's solid fit as much money in a briefcase as you can in a bag so I think I think there should be the line for say is finding it hard to police all of this and they're trying to figure out what is acceptable. What is not in it in? My mind goes to lay drug possession tate of you find a guy with a little bit a little bag of weed on most of the time the cops come on and take they take it they throw it away they save you gone with you You have a lot. The the intent to distribute you get busted so what if we draw the line at like if you have a briefcase? Full the cashier giving recruit. It's just like a little slap on the wrist. They confiscate the money. But they're like come on. You know better than that once. You have a Duffel Bag. It's an intensive distribute. And now you're seeing real time. I think that's what we should. I think that's for lunch. The Godfrey Calipari and then the Calipari is not as offensive. But you're also come on and the Godfrey you're like come on dude seriously. I WANNA shout out. Tom Crean as well Tom Korean. I found out this week As unblocked me on twitter. I don't know how it happened. Sent me a tweet from Tom. Green I clicked on it and I could see it and I. I have not been able to see Tom Tweet. In seven years. I want to say I think the two thousand thirteen season when I was shitting all over him for Syracuse I think that's when he blocked me. he unblocked me. I don't I don't have any idea why so it's come with the podcast. Tom. Let's talk about. Let's let's let's talk it out. I think he unblocked you. Because of the MAUI INVITATIONAL. We saw him there across the room. He gave some looks. He's like why are these people still involved in the sport how to get him out of the sport but like you said we were still there. We were so given by and You know he finally is accepting the fact that yes come on the show and address it. What if Cody Zeller made it happen for us? What those. Why Cody Zeller told the story about the bat and then Tom Green on black military? I don't know but he unblocked so I'm excited about that. Because he is my white whale interview I think SOM- create and I have had a personal rivalry for professional rivalry will save for that his term personnel at times for very long time. So I don't know olive branch being extended. Thank you. I think you coach Green. Please please share your gift. Anything else before. Go Shots Dwayne Wade as you talk about Tom. Crean I just want to remind people. He did recruit Wayne Wade and took him to a final four and Dwayne Wade through Justin Anderson into the first year of the media. Yes yes yes it. All comes full circle. Circle shutout NASA SPACEX launching. Doing the relaunch. I was geeked up for on Thursday or on Wednesday was a didn't happen. They've postponed it to Saturday beside for that so I just want to get on record that space guy a big time space guy and I'm excited to watch that shuttle again rocket. I am a little hesitant Elon. Musk who's just trying to get off her. Then that makes me worried and you know that I am excited as well. All right. That's a show. They suggested innocent for coming on. Thanks to you guys for listenable.

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Hour 2: 3/27/19

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Hour 2: 3/27/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Listening to call finebaum show podcast all run. How the song goes? Hey, I'm Ryan McGee sitting in for Paul today. It is the Paul finebaum show. I am Ryan Mckee sitting informed. But you the the numbers still work eight five five two four to seven to eight five say five to four two Paul with a you. And the lines are loaded. That's always encouraging when I first started sitting in for Paul at always the case actually last week. It wasn't always. Yeah. But yeah, you're right defense determine what was going on. So that's what I'm gonna go with anyway. Ed, ingredients sip is on the line up on how you doing buddy. You know, when you first daughter wearing that goatee in that beer, dotted like, but it's kind of like those little under wack grows on you. I like it now offers count rule me too. Yeah. Well, listen is all say last night doing the Auburn Alabama baseball game. Tom Hart mentioned how excited he was to go down to the Mississippi State gain this going to be broadcast thirty nine on the SEC network. And you know, we're all excited about that here because Ryan to tell you the truth. This is the showcase well, Tom and using Tom hearts war. This is the this is the you know, I toll of baseball. And you know, it's a it's just a show place for college baseball, the house Mahal college is what he said. But I will say this, listen, I wanna thank you so much for your. You stores that you do these SEC stored about thunder line, and then the alcohol man, those are just tremendous those were just medicine. I wanna thank you because you are the one and not credit you and everyone else should to you the one that credited the term when thunder Liden on those playing this guerilla ball. And that is exactly what we're going to get back to with. So proud of the stadium is a showcase for the SEC to bring baseball to the front of the nation again. Thank you for your commentary. Hey, yeah. Percent. You you percent that a lot. And listen, if you know me at all, you know, I love college baseball. And the reason I love college baseball was because of ESPN, and I grew up in the triangle and North Carolina. So we would go to games, you know, at the schools right there in the triangle, but thanks to ESPN. I would see games from Mississippi State with Ron Paul coaching. I'd see games from LSU. Get Vert Manatt see games for Miami. I'd see these games from all around the country. Wichita? Ah state USC, and all I ever wanted to do was find some reason some excuse some way to get to start Ville for a gain or to get to Baton Rouge for a game. And now sometimes the pay me to do it. And it's pretty nice. But I say this all the time college baseball is what it is now because of the city of Omaha and what they did. But it's really because of what they did in the deep south with LSU and Mississippi State, and it really started in Miami. And we're talking about these disciples of Ron Frazer Miami. And it was the first time anyone really stood up to Texas and the schools from California Arizona, and now when I travel out to the west coast, and I get to go to some of these legendary old west coast stadiums that have all these college World Series banners, but they're all pretty old. And then I go to South Carolina to LSU Mississippi State and ole miss and Arkansas, I go to these places. Narcan CD stadiums, Georgia where the plane abolish just it's unbelievable. So the commitment to the sport is while the SEC is the number one baseball conference in the country, and that's not just because I'm sitting here on this network. That's a fact I wrote a worst selling book about the college World Series. Justin read that time. Bill in Atlanta, Zona liabilites up. Thanks for taking my call. Just certain. I want to invite you to Nashville Vanderbilt PR place. I've been there a hundred times I love it there. Okay. I I'm probably make make some friends bad friends LSU that play a smart did he take money, and if he took money how can he playing games? NC double as he's eligible you talking about the LSU basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the listen to investigate is still going on. And obviously you're in the past. They would have shut that down right away. Having been other Stu and set it down real quick gase. See used to do it. None of them. But now, but the eight hundred dollars I mean. Today. Bali he's turned purlee. Oh fan having pride down at the school. And I'm off. Bill bill's gone, so Bill lizard Lanta. He won't make sure I will this Vanderbilt, and he's someone else you that was that was quite the continental trip right there. But yeah. Bobby's online, Bobby what's up. Hey, how you doing right? Listen all the show. You've talked about the teams that aren't in determinant. I think it's time to talk about the teams that are in his. Nice fair enough. I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. I have a question for you turned over to the big ten network earlier today. They're spending the whole day with specials on the teams that are playing. I even had to turn over to big ten channel to see the Tennessee press conference. Why is it the SEC network showing any respect to these teams? Was this you no, we're not showing respect to the teams that are into turnament. Exactly. I there is nothing on your network about deterrment into turn on eleven thirty at night, but thirty minutes, and it's the bad in between four we end schools and three or four women schools, plus the baseball and everything else, we're not getting the respect. We we we we I appreciate Bobby. We've been talking about it plenty, and I can't control what the callers call in about. And if the callers are calling in about these other schools looking for a head coach, and that's what we're going to talk about. But I'll say this. We only have a dedicated like multi EMMY winning award film crew following each one of the schools, and they've all got multiple specials this year shot on film. I mean, I don't I'm not sure sure what else you looking for. But I appreciate you calling and asking a question about the teams are left in the tournament. And then not asking a question about the teams that are left in the tournament. We're talking about a plenty listen, there's two stories this time of year. Just like there's two stories at the end of the football season. Just like there's two stories at the end of the baseball season coaches are being let go or they're moving on to other jobs who's going to be the next coach. And then there are teams that are still playing. And that's just that's how that goes. But I will I'll feel free to walk down the hallway and tell them the UA happy. RJ online RJ what's up. How you doing? Ryan good. I have just listened to the news today on lexin news. Scott are aid. Kinda gotta question. But the that he was alleys boot PJ Washington was I mean he was in the boot Alba cast. Yeah. It's pretty playing man gains. These other coaches, or you know, he'd done this last year needs they turn turned with the kid the Vanderbilt kid, and we just wondered this cow parade just Trump play mind games, but Houston about I mean, couldn't you let us know the day that he's gonna play this week the Friday night or a lot a lot. There's a little bit of that. I mean, listen, I don't I don't think that I don't think he's going to do anything obviously to hamper the kids, you know, recovery or they all know what is doing. But, but if if not letting us know and not letting the public know makes Houston after practice a little bit harder, or or has the coaches up till three o'clock in the morning watch a little extra film because they don't know what they're going to have. Yeah. That's absolutely what it's doing. I mean, I. I can't believe that too right now. I'm with you. But I I I would be surprised if we didn't see him play over the weekend. But, but I tell you this even if he does play I suspect we won't know until the last putt, whatever the rules allow the last possible second that's what we'll find out. Okay. Ryan. Thanks, a lot about sir broke. Now. Listen you about call. Listen, college baseball is the worst about that. Because there really aren't a lot of rules, and when you're out in Omaha for the college World Series, and you're worried about lineups not just injuries. But you're worried about lineups and lefty righty and who's going to pitch. I mean, it's the biggest shell game you've ever seen in your life. And yeah, we get irritated press box. Because I want to write about who's gonna pitch tonight for whoever. But he don't want you to know. That guy Robin North Carolina's on the line. Rob was up. Hey, ryan. How're you doing man? Thanks for taking my call. Absolutely. I don't know what you think. But Rosenblatt stadium might need some help right now with all that flooding out there, man. I'll tell you. Tell us to I've been Omaha when they've had flooding issues before and that airport. I love that airport. Man. It is. I mean, it gets under water and hurry. So I've been thinking about this folks out there a lot. Yeah. It off it in eighty one eighty two and eighty three and live between the Missouri and the dyke so anytime they have icebergs in the big chunks is started pound up. We hold us to side of the dike be wrong. Honky bit about Holly. Yes, sir. You know, we're we're not we're not expecting greatness here. We've done had our bumper coach between Pat and some other coach we just need somebody that can get in there and make these girls play. I mean when the girls aren't paying attention during timeouts, and you can sit and to be honest the last year or two it didn't look like Holly was having a whole lot of fun. What do you think? No. I'm you rob in his hard to say. And this is where we had to walk that line between the respect we all have for Holly. But then what was actually taking place on the court. And I with you. I mean, if you if you were there to game like I was a couple of times or or you watch on television. It was pretty obvious at some point the connection was lost a little bit between Holly in the team. And we don't know what the reasons behind that. But but yeah, I'm with you. I don't think he's having a whole lot of fun. And and also we all know well enough to know, she was here what everybody was saying. And the last thing in the world, she wants to do is the damage, you know, the greatest brand in the history of women's college. Ball. And and then she kind of. There were still under the bus in that interview saying that Tennessee needed a culture change anytime ago contain it's going to happen. They're going to throw the leader out. I well, listen to this. No secret. I've had my issues fill fomer over the years. But I know nobody has has pained over this struggle with this like he has because as you know, he was there for the glory days. And he was there for now. And I know he's known Holly. And they've known each other tire dot lives. So yes there I think he'll do a good job and Kennedy's like the football team. The lady vol's presented Colorado. And we have breaking news in the Alabama coaching search. But I ain't gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna tell you when we come back. It's the Paul finebaum show. Ryan McGee sitting in for Paul. You're listening to about Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to the Paul finebaum show Ryan McGee sitting in for Paul again. And man, I'm so excited because I don't have to fake like I'm talking expert football anymore because I have an actual football expert here, gene Chizik will you doing? All right. I don't know if I'm an expert or not, but we'll have some fun talking about some football. Will you you you talk it? Well, so appreciate that you bring the Chisholm as a try to just little wisdom. Yes. Rolled out there. See what have I appreciate that? All right. So pro days did you see done in Gainesville? And I mean, obviously, there's always dudes. But what was the story line come here today? Well, Bilbao Bill Belichick was there. So you know, there's some headliners air right with his with his Alabama hoodie on note today. I think he's switching into the Florida. I'm not sure, but. Anyway, it was it was interesting Ryan, I don't think there's any kind of new revelations. I think the guys that were supposed to do. Well did. Well, I got to give credit to the guys that are really potentially high draft picks that do well at the combine. And then also choose to go to pro day participate because you know, this is a day and age Ryan with agents and the trainers are saying, hey, you've done enough don't do anything and some guys literally don't do anything these days. Other guys want to jump in there with their teammates. They wanna say they want to really kinda give the picture to the to the pro scouts and the head coaches that are there that hey, dude, roll a ball out here, and I'm ready to compete. I don't care where it is. When it is. And I think you saw guys like John Taylor who couldn't done anything today to really probably up his stock any more than it is. He did. Well, Chauncey Gardiner Johnson. Same thing competed. Well, today Voshan Josephson guys like that. I think. Up their stock. So it was interesting it, Florida. But again, I gotta give these guys lot of credit because they didn't shy away from the competition. And again when everything's on the line they were willing to compete as a head coach. These guys are leaving. They got literally have one foot out the door. What can you do because I've talked to players in the past say, I wish my coach done more to prepare me for the combine or for pro day, especially college coaches with NFL experienced, but what can you as a head coach do to get these kids ready for what could be a life altering, dick. Well, I think there's a lot of conversations that go on, you know, things have changed these days Ryan because where normally you would back in the day, let's say fifteen and twenty years ago, a lot of these guys would stay around stay on campus workout where your strength coach do things there. Now. What happens? Everybody gets an agent. Everybody gets a trainer they go to Zona. They go to Florida. They leave you in in. And quite frankly, we were laughing about this me, and some other coaches the other day, we were laughing because these guys leave. View after the bowl game. They come back two and a half months later. And you're like, where's this guy been? I mean, these guys on the best shape I've seen since we got him for fast, twitch muscles. I could've used these back in October. Hey, Ron they've eaten. I mean duct out this diet were they down there. Cut up like where was this in college? But that's what they do. Now, they go and they go off and they trained and when they come back for pro day, and they come back for the combine typically, I mean, they should be in the best shape of their life. You know, look they've been trained in for two and a half months getting ready for these moments in hopefully pays off on. So Florida is used to have in gigantic pro days, I have been to a couple of Mississippi State pro days, whether it was like me, and like the guy that cleans the place when it's over with and one guy that was not the case Dennis starkville, today's different different age Downer. And know when you had your one on one with them back in whatever year that was it's definitely changed. I think that this is really kind of falls back on what Dan Mullins testament is. To being able to turn programs around and get them to the point where there's a lot of interest. And I don't know the exact amount of numbers today. Ryan, but I know there was a bunch of guys competing at this pro day bunch of first round draft picks. It was really good to see Montana's wet. You know, you talk about a guy who blew the combine out this guy ran four four one Ryan into give people perspective those are better times than Julio Jones. Odell Beckham junior Antonio Brown. That's what he ran in the forty at six six to sixty. So he goes out there today, and he decides he's going to compete Jeffrey Simmons who was not invited to the combine. Everybody's looking at where he is rehab wise with his knee. The only thing he did today is he he got onto the bench and threw up to twenty-five only twenty eight times. On one leg basis one leg, you know, basically, non existent, but he did. Well, Gary green did. Well. A bunch of them. I could go down the list, you know, Jonathan Abrams was was really good. But they all competed. It was really good for Mississippi State because I want to say all thirty two NFL teams were represented in the big news of the day was Nick fits going next. Yep. Yeah. So he worked out at the end of the combine is tied in which you didn't want to do at the combine because they sprung it on him late. Any did not have a chance to prepare to do that. So I understand that. But I think today he was compliant and did what they want him to do. And I think that would be. So the most frustrating part for me when we get to the draft is and I can go down a list of Russell Wilson, Nick FitzGerald predecessor, Mississippi State. I mean, there's guys all over the league right now that the NFL experts all sat and told me, that's they're probably not gonna make it in this league. They're not the right kind of player, Nick FitzGerald is he the guy that we should be barking. Alec. Listen give the kid a shot to play. Behind center or to see need to roll with whatever they tell him to do. Well, I I think that you know, his inconsistencies quarterback have reared their ugly head for three years. And and I think we were looking at exponential improvement and there's times when we saw it. So it's not like he can't do it. I think it's consistency. And then look Ryan, you know in the league everything is about decision making number one. And accuracy, number two. And if you aren't really really efficient at both of those you can't play in that league. So I think that somebody that's gonna take a chance on Nick either as a late draft pick or free agent quarterback. He's gonna get into camp there. Someone's gonna take up and he's going to get a shot in the NFL. You know, he's going to have to he's going to have to consistently demonstrate that he can make quick decisions and he can be accurate. That's the bottom line. So and look I think the tight end thing is kind of a fallback deal. He ran four six four the combine he's six four and a half. He's two hundred twenty six pounds. He caught the ball. Well today, I'm telling you now he caught the ball yet. Some soft hands his routes weren't that of a perfection tight end or receiver. But he was pretty fluent and fluid and he caught the ball. Well, so, hey, I'm like you. It's not an exact science. We've all heard the there's no way he can do it and you turn around and he can do it. And we've all heard the boy, he's the greatest thing. And then he turns around and can't do it. Who knows I was on a point one time going somewhere and had several scouts on there. And they're all running down dot Prescott. I text them all all the time soon to be working out. Okay. Russell wilson. I saw here in the studio with a bunch of geniuses. Tony Russell Wilson camp on short. Every time. We throws for his fortieth touchdown of the season group tax nays and just check in with everybody watched the film, Mississippi State, fascinates me. I love job warhead if you sitting here with us right now. It'd be one of the greatest conversations ever there's entrance mission. That's no secret this spring would they need to be working on. And what have you heard from down there? Well, I I don't know that I've heard a lot. I I know that when you lose that much talent that's a that's a heavy load to replace now. I mean, especially when you're talking about your offense of line losing two or three guys on the offense of line that were critical critical players down there. Look at this defense. I mean everywhere you look on that defense Ryan, whether it's safety whether it's corner. I mean, you got Jamal Peters at corner who's a six to two hundred twenty pound guy. He's gone look at Bo safeties who between MacLaurin and help me out. There would say Abrahams. Both of those guys were probably tandem wise, the best to safeties maybe in the country together. And then when you sit there and you're losing to draft picks up front you're going to have to really kind of reload in look schematically, they got to see where they fit now after all these players have exited in then what is going to happen with Kitone moving forward at quarterback next been running the show for three years off open spots. So I believe Joe Moorhead. I'm with you. I'm a big fan of his and I hope that he's given the time to at least see what he can do. We all we all know what he did before he got there. So the coach that recruited all of these guys that we're talking about is the guy that we started this conversation with and that's down in Gainesville. What do the Gators need to be focused on this spring to be happy heading into the summer if a coach can possibly be happy? Well, they can't no one's happy. You know, they'll always find something to pick. It'll be very interesting again. You know, I predicted that Florida. Was on the Florida bandwagon early in the year. I thought they'd win nine to what they did in Michigan in the Chick-fil-A class bowl game. Was I thought it was unbelievable. You talk about momentum. This is a program. That's got great momentum moving forward. We he came in Dan Mullen and did at the quarterback position. Exactly what we thought. He would do. He would turn the quarterback position into a position that was much more efficient that he could. Really moving offense with that. He could you know rely on some skill people around him and don't forget there's every Joan sit in their this right behind him. And this guy is a talent. So how he handles that situation. Who knows but let me give you the big win are the big recruiting win for the university of Florida came because they kept Todd Graham Dahlia he had a chance to go to the NFL coordinator in that was maybe one of the best and most important recruiting jobs that he did all year to really keep that defensive staff intact that was huge those moments right for the we're the coach told you or the or the quarterback that could lead to nothing I'm gonna stick around for at least another year, and you just go that's cool. And then you go in your office, and you do happy dance. All right percents. He was happy dancing. Did y'all Watson Chisholm because that was Chisholm right there. Hey, give it my best shot. Ryan coach. You're the man we'll have more coming up spot bomb show. You're listening to Paul finebaum. She oh podcast. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Everybody to the Paul finebaum show. We do have breaking news. Nate oats is your new head basketball. Coach at the university of Alabama. And. It will be interesting over the next couple of hours to hear how this plays out. We started the show with a lot of a couple of calls about who could be the next head coach as university Alabama and see so her joins us. Now. I don't know that Nate oats was on was on anyone's list, except obviously Greg burns. Well, he he was certainly. Talked about a good bit during the NCI turn to not necessarily in connection with Alabama. But really in connection with the five-year extension that he sounded buffalo, but he had buffalo in the top twenty five all year that they represent themselves well in the tournament, and and in the MAC, and so he was considered a hot commodity. But I think what's the the contract extension was signed people people felt like well that or at least agree to now. Whether it's been signed or not, I guess we'll find out, but people sort of took him off the off the big board so to speak to us Mel kiper, e- and. Looked at other candidates. So Greg definitely pleading close to the vest. You can go back and porous Greg burdens press conference on Monday. And I would say that the the two things that you take out of it are I he said he wasn't concerned about geography he was concerned about the best tire available and second. He said he was concerned about the the long term and not necessarily making the biggest splash in the press conference. I don't I think that that made out certainly on basketball media and people that followed of the season is pretty well regarded higher. But it's not it's not a name that's been in the final four, for instance. So you would you would you could have maybe fun with those threats from press conference. But he he surprised almost everybody to death. Well, for those of you who cover the team, I'll see a lot of congratulations already from our colleagues. That cover college basketball. Elsewhere saying you got a quote machine rolling into town. So that's right. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Of course, every was that too. So yeah. So at least maintain it though, you Avery was always great with the media and want to be sure it mentioned that. But yeah, apparently oats has won a lot of press conferences on his own. So I'll hadn't gotten a time schedule set up yet. But I imagine it'll be sooner rather than later which may mean tomorrow, but I'll be interested to see how his press conference goes over. Well, and I want to go back to NATO to the second. But you mentioned every Johnson ultimately, and I know airborne world ask you this over the last week. Why ultimately do you think it just didn't work out? And while it was time for the for those to depart ways. I think that the transition from from many many years in the NBA to college was was tough in some way, you're just coaching at different style in a different kind of player. So I I think that was I think that was part of it. And sometimes it just doesn't it just doesn't work out. And and the excuse me, the SEC has gotten very much tougher over the last four years, and I think every kept them competitive, but he couldn't get them over the hump. And then things we're very disappointing. Is you know, you you follow it follow? This. You see, you know, she know that they were really poised with one more win from about February the second on to to get into the NCAA tournament, and they just couldn't add three home games. And again, very good teams, Florida LSU and Auburn NCAA teams, but you need to take care of business at home. And then even at that. Then I think that they were so. Lackadaisical in some ways or or looked a little bit lost against Moore state, nothing taking nothing away from Norfolk state. But I think that was a cause for concern and several games, and and every had really for the push the United is a chance to Bill for next year and show was going to happen next year. But it was obviously obvious that the player pointing gauged, but I think that that, you know, Greg didn't wanna spend the amount of money that he spent on both ends to to make this happen. But his main concern is the long term health of the program. He felt like this chance to to get best available guy that that if you waited one more year, you might not be able to land. So I would think that that was the thinking that's what happened with Avery. But everyday get things now. Bam and raise the profile got him in the tournament with Colin sex than last year. And so he'll he'll end on these see NATO's got buffalo to the. Tournament with three out of the last four years on to Tom Matt coach this he he's a he's a mid western guy mean he spent time in buffalo. But the reality is he's born and grew Wisconsin, he coached high school ball outside of Detroit for more than a decade. What do you think is going to be like for him moving in Susko, loosen? Do you think Tuscaloosa is ready to embrace NATO's? Well, he'll get better better weather than buffalo. That it's seventy two today. And so it's it's a little bit different in that sense. But it's also a different culture. It's also different guys. Not necessarily at the other end of the hall anymore in the other building building. And that's always going to be the biggest part of the culture is going to be football, but nickleby supportive. There's no question about that. But it'll be interesting to see the highest for a staff it'll be interesting to see how he answers that question and his press conference, and it'll be interesting to to see what his impressions were of this area. And what led him to make? What is in in fact, dramatic career move. We'll see Sahar we appreciate it. And I know you got to get to work to to fill in the details of your stories coming, but I'll say this about NATO's. He's quick on Twitter. He's already changed his out picture to the to the to the a so he's is official now. There you go. So he's he's ready to get started. And there's a lot to be done. Yeah. There guys to be talked to that are in the transfer portal and guys to be recruited. So he's going to have to the ground. All right. I presented by thanks so much. Glad to do it. All right. Thanks. Yes. So we'll give give you a little background. We were getting this a little bit. But here he is this four seasons of buffalo. Three out of those four years. I've made incidental a tournament. He was an assistant of buffalo under Bobby Hurley, y'all remember him from Duke when Hurley went out there as a state he became the head coach back to back Mak champion back-to-back MAC coach of the year two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen and has reached got out of the first round of the tournament. The last two years. Yeah. I mentioned his background. So he grew up in Wisconsin. He was what's Marinov Baptist was an assistant coach, it was constant whitewater, and then was the head basketball coach at Romulus high school, which if you're a high school basketball fan, you know, that school it a chore area. He's there for eleven years before he went to move in with Bobby Hurley at buffalo, and he's been there ever since. So this is a mid western guy coming from the MAC coming from Detroit raised in Wisconsin. And now somebody's go have to show him where the good barbecue. Joints are Tuscaloosa because guarantee you. Here know where they are from Wisconsin whitewater, no offence to those good folks up there. All right is the Paul finebaum show. Breaking news. You wanted to know who the next head coach at Alabama was well now, we know call us a listener, which take eight five five two four two Paul. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back visible ball show. On the SEC network and found radio stations around the nation. I'm Ryan Mckee sitting in for Paul today. Honest with you every time I come in here. I'm like, yeah. This would be easy to nothing today. Other than Tennessee parting ways with the women's basketball coach in Alabama. Hiring a men's basketball coach NATO tes, Alabama fans. I'd love to see all the people in Tuscaloosa right now googling Marin autho. Far enough, the Baptist Marlin naphtha more. Nothing more nothing. That's a that's where NATO tz what school played was assistant coach. And now nineteen years later he is the head coach of university of Alabama crimson tide basketball team. Jacob Florida's online Jake up. And this amid Janas wanted to say that I'm a fan of your's like sand. I've been following. There's pretty closely at buffalo. I actually had buffalo going into my Sweet Sixteen bracket. Unfortunately, they didn't get they didn't get there. But you know, with with Alabama, you know, traditionally in a football school and the basketball culture, not necessarily, you know, being what it is and other SEC schools like Kentucky or Forida. What what do you think are so realistic expectation for oats that Alabama? Lisa. Great question, Jake. And when I was here last week, and the kind of the official conversation had started because Alabama just lost in the NRT in the conversation. Kind of started about what's Avery Johnson's future. And I asked that question and heard from a lot of Alabama people that night, which is, you know, who are you as a program like what's what's legitimate realistic goal as a program artless win twenty games and make the tournament. And then see what kind of bonus we can get from there. I mean, what do you think? I mean, I think I think we're close. I mean, I feel like we have the talent this year to be a little more competitive than what we were. I think with some some better coaching. I think it's definitely possible for us to consistently consistently make the tournament. I feel like that's where you have to start you have to fist and we'd be competitive and consistently make the tournament. Yup. Naga that you have to be a no brainer in March. Like, like, the selection committee system looks at it. All right. You know, what they're in. And there are teams that are always gonna get the benefit of that out on that. Right. And so you got to be one of those teams I in the suit what you can get from there. I agree with you. Correct. And also, I wanna see us become one of those more talked about schools, and they asked you see you have as far as basketball terms. We have to start competing with the Kentucky's Florida's Tennessee. That's where it starts agree with that percents. Call jake. Thanks, man. See Jake pay attention. Everybody's level is Alabama. Who is Nate oats? Jake nude had been head of in the Sweet Sixteen Jimmy and Chicago's online. Jimmy, what's up? It's probably the best young coach in the country. Yeah. For bird hit a home run. I I knew I had him as a possibility, but I knew about the extension with buffalo. But I knew that Alabama would be able to pay enough if they really wanted him to make that irrelevant. And I I mean, I, you know, I was thinking maybe Marshall Dawkins even always Berg, maybe but Kronen, but I knew really that if they had to be coach Hussein was out of the tournament because they're the situation right now where they have two critical players on their roster that have entered the transfer board all they gotta fix that right away. They got they needed a coach the first thing he was going to have recruiting job. He was going to have to do is to keep petty. And and Louis and not to mention, you know, the recruits. You know that that have already signed. I I keep forgetting, you know, if they've already if they're still stuck even though they haven't even played the game for the you know, and the coach they sign was no longer there. I only know how they handle that anymore. But but nonetheless, say had the get for the late signing period they had to have a coach. And he reminds me a lot of my quite, and I think he's he's probably got the highest trajectory right now any coach in the country. And of course, you took took over for Hurley and really race Fuller's level too from what it was to Hurley who really build it from scratch, and they annihilated Hurley's Arizona state king last week bentzi AA tournament, I say just just crush them. And golly, I mean if there, and if you're thinking about long term, you could you could. Hired a better guy for the situation. And again, you know, I think the west right now is really right for a program with a a really good coach to come in and make some serious headway because I think LSU's really looking at some difficult times with the FBI situation. You know, I I I think Sampson would be really do a great job at Arkansas. I think buzz is going to be the guy, and they're going to be I think they've been the sleeping giant. He'll do a great job there. So thanks have just gotten really interesting. Really? Cutoff. We're we're up against spray. Always a great call you. And. Yeah, I mean, listen, you get oats and Samson, and maybe buzz all in the western half of the conference. Not just as he was. Yeah. Man. Plays hoops Sapporo bomb show. We're not Bob mom show. Yes. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast.

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He hung on his defensive stopper later in his career since we couldn't get Christian Leitner, Bobby Hurley or Aala Abdul Nabi. Please. Welcome. Oh, very loving. So. I feel Turner sports basketball analyst grants on the call the final four national title game for the fifth consecutive year. Man. What bothers you the most about that introduction there. I think it's all true. We had later on that was yesterday or two days ago. I never know when he serious when he's joking like, he's he's cocky, he's humble, I I I don't know how you read him when you played to with you. Right. I think he's more humble now. But when we played, you know, the this so much about Layton, it has been discussed, and you know, he was this. He was that. He was a great team. He really was. And he was a super super everything was a competition everything who's bag were come out. I at the airport. You know, you know, who could see a, squirrel. I see everything was he was his hyper competitive, and I don't feel like he's as competitive now. But he said he told you first day I want you to dunk on me. Yeah. No. I I saw that. It is true. He would he would try to contest and try to. Block it and. You know, it was a little bit different little bit weird. And most people don't say try to dunk Duncombe. But he was just competitive. He wanted to try to meet at the rim and see if he could block my dunk. And then I think after a while I was dunking on pretty easily and talking a little trash tool. So that ended after that point, but that was Christian. I mean, he I'll say this. He got more excited for migrate plays than anybody else. I think that image from the tournament of when RJ Barrett had a reverse dunk. He's jumping up and down. That was Chris. So. He was complicated in a lot of ways. But he was a great teammate and a lot of fun to play. And we did that documentary. He did it the everybody. Hey, raising later, and but you have teammates, but they sell me for two hours. I said great things about them. And they just like five minutes supported their their thesis and ran with it. But, but what did you have players who you played within the NBA that ask you about him? Yeah. I think so there was some players early on who asked about him. And he he was just one of because he's an 'nigma. Yeah. Here's here's here's a little bit. But he's he's I think he's a good person at heart. He had great things to say about, you know. I mean, I have great things. There's a story we played at Caen Shas his senior year in buffalo. He's everybody's all American. We go to buffalo to give key to the city. We go out in the first half. You know, we're blowing them out. He's taken. He took one shot at halftime. I remember coach getting on. I'm like, hey, this this game is for you. You look like you don't wanna play. And he's like I want my hometown and see how good my teammates on. So like there's that side of Leitner that doesn't give played up. But he was competitive he he put it all on his shoulders. He endured a lot of abuse on the road. But as a team mate, he really was a great team made fun to be around. Bobby Hurley say the same thing. Yeah. I mean, look they had their moments. I mean, just like any, you know, I'm sure like the, Dan as I'm sure you guys, you know, get get after it wasn't a while. Yeah. But I mean, look they play great together. And I think there was more good. A lot more good than bad, but they had their moments. I mean look krizner we had our moments. I mean Christian, but you didn't fight. Did you all the time? We fought all the time. I mean, like throwing punches every okay? So I'm gonna tell you a little story. So. My first ACC game. We're getting ready to play for Jinya averaging. And we're in Christians room Christians rooming with Tony Lang who was my normal roommate, but we had different roommates on the road and the beds were were pushed apart, and we're fighting each other like there's about five or six of us. And we're taking turns fighting each other. Like what how does it start where you're I don't even know how started, but the manager knocks on the door couple times, we're making all this noise. Wrestling were fighting. It was almost you fight each other. And we'd go at it. And no punches are thrown. But we're wrestling and trying to like, whatever. And so we go out the next day, and we lose by twenty five like we get blown afternoon game. So we bust back to durum. No, one says a word for three hours pull up to Cameron, and coaches, I want everybody tapes ready in fifteen minutes, and that was the worst practice that I've ever been a part of and I broke my nose in an practice. And so I manage to stay away from Christian on the road. From that moment on. But but yeah, I mean, we were kids we were juvenile. We did silly things. And obviously things that in the social media age you can't do now. But we fought every day Christian could actually fight. He was good with his hands. He used to box growing up. So we slapped box. And you know, it was just kids we had fun. And you know, and so, but he was you know, he he could he could what does it talk. It like you walk while he he could back it up a little bit talk to the exact certainly talk. Yeah. That's for sure. Grant Hill's with us Turner, sports basketball analyst, and of course, on the call for the final four national title game Tuesday's poll question was most talented Duke player vol- time. Paulie? Yes. Okay. The most talented Duke player of all time is this just a way for the media to get zion's name into whatever their show is. Because you're the most talented player that I think ever played it too. Yeah. You know, Christian said that as well. Okay. Do you think you're more talented than Zion? I mean, it's hard to make this debate. I mean, really when you start comparing different eras because what Zion has done. What Marvin Bagley did what kyri did as freshmen? We didn't do that back. Then in his greatest Christian was junior and senior year his first year he played with Danny ferry. Danny ferry was college player of the year. Christian was in a comp a complementary role much like I was in a complementary role until you're in Israel. And so that's what happened freshman freshman waited their turn. And so and so to think that this kid can come out and play at this level as a freshman national player of the year all this hype. All this attention on him as an eighteen year old like we never went through any of that. You know, I was shielded by late. Her late was shielded by ferry ferry was shielded by Johnny Dawkins. So it was a difference. Interesting. We're real different time. So insane that I mean because I would look at this in this is the argument I would make let. Me sees ion on as finished product at Duke, or at least have a couple more years because you were finished product at Duke person was a finished product at Duke Johnny played longer Batty played longer. So we saw you guys became men zion's eighteen right? If zion's twenty one or twenty two what kind of player is he while he's still playing in college. I mean, he may be considered not only maybe the greatest do player, but could possibly be the greatest of all time. I mean, you just you never know. I think his potential is is at lettuce schism is explosiveness. Have you been around him? Yeah. I hadn't been around a much of this year. But with the tournament run with them, and you know, the thing that was impressive was like with all this going on. And all the exposure. It was almost like he's oblivious today like he and RJ and those kids, and but I like Zion. He celebrates his teammates RJ is not as celebrate. Sorry. I think Zion loves playing basketball. I think R J loves shooting score. I mean, I think I think we all celebrate each other in different ways of anxiety on is more stress. He's definitely comes across as more the emotional more vocal guy. I think RJ's a little bit more cerebral in terms of his personality. But like one story I heard with the people that do that with all the exposure. He was getting he went to s I d say, look it's too much about me. It's got to be about the tea. And so there's just like he's genuine he's pure. He's a great teammate. And I think he has obviously a great future in front of now because of his talent, but because of his his work ethic and the right mentality. I don't know how many guys are on this list who have guarded, Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant, right. So you're on that list. You want to be? Because you didn't normally guard Jordan, author that was a Carolina shirt. I'm done. No, we wouldn't do that. Don't play with fire. We we wouldn't do that too. Okay. But if you said, and you would be the one of the ultimate people to ask like the best offensive player you faced who would that be like the toughest to guard. You gotta go with George. I I didn't guard Jordan a lot. But when I did it was definitely Jordan. She Kobe wants to know helped me so Kobe was because I guarded Koby a lot, and I was sort of like on son's like that was my role to guard Colby, and so that was Kobe's relentless. And every every time down the court. He's trying to score. And he was the one guy. I felt like really didn't have a weakness. He could go, right. Go left over either shoulder in the post could hit crazy shots, you know, contested from three pointer like you just you just had to like you had to sort of have nesia. Sometimes you had to just get over the fact that he was gonna hit tough shots. And but he was the ultimate challenge. No doubt not not to take anything away from LeBron. I didn't guard Jordan as much but Kobe was plus I have one ankle. I got a bad ankle. I'm thirty seven years old. You know, and they put me on Kobe Bryant like that was unfair says bass me feel sorry for you feel sorry. I mean, I think there was a respect there. But he, you know, he was relentless and Leitner said, and you watch the interview with later that you were pressured to come back after that first surgery on your ankle. They never come back. Yeah. Nah. I remember he wouldn't tell you wouldn't name names and tell the whole story need a whole hour to go through that ordeal. But yeah, that that whole situation, and I'm gonna tell it at some point write a book about it. But it was horribly mismanaged. And I I still remember we were in the play offs against Miami. And is in my ankle had been bothering me up until that point. And we were coming back from a practice late. And it was like, hey, man, like need to take it easy. Like, you're not right. And you know, and so I ended up playing that game too. And that's when I didn't play any more, and I had to have surgery, but I should've but he thought you might lose your foot. I mean like this was really serious upset staff affection. I I when septic I it was. The whole and this was three years later after numerous surgeries of so. Yeah, it was scary. And it was a point day where you know. Yeah. You kind of thought I would possible. So because you were people don't realize, and maybe they forget you were on the road to be. You're not Michael Jordan. Right. But your your ear in the conversation of most complete player in the game, you know, rebounds. Assists scoring you play defense. There's no weakness your great teammate. And then this happened like you had four five years. Can I get that site know, my kids here because he gave my daughter my seventeen year old she'll every once in a while, she'll go on YouTube or something like that? You actually were pretty good player. You weren't. You weren't always a scrub. You know? Probably seeing you. They saw me like he saw Kobe tortured me when I'm thirty years. They didn't see that. So I appreciate that show or G Q magazine or show her that the kid in play haircut. Well, I won't show her that. But now, I mean, it was it was a good. I think for me four years in college coming into the league having success early on and getting better. I felt like my six year in Detroit. Like, I finally got into a point where the game was really really you were an and then you know, then I had the injury. Ordeal. And did you think you're was good as Jordan? That time, you know, what I think certain players would you had a certain level and top five ten whatever top twenty in you feel like you're the best player on court. And so when I stepped on the cord even against Jordan we felt like I was the better player. And when I came back whether I was the better player or not that's what I felt. But when I came back after four years, we think Derrick rose and all the stuff he went that was years. I had four years of just, you know, injuries, you know, the body betraying you you lose the confidence in your body, which you also lose the confidence in who you are. So instead of feeling like I'm at best player. Now, I'm I'm just happy to be back. You'll meet a guard. Kobe. So I lost a little bit of that edge. That's necessary. I think to be at that that level you were gonna tell me Jordan story when I first saw you today. Right. You want? Let's let's end the segment with that. So by the way, I have a basketball court here. Right. I would like to recreate the Duke Kentucky play. But I'm going to have you run the defense like what did Kentucky do wrong on that play where Christian hits the shot? Okay. Okay. By the way, Leitner didn't that wasn't tough Leitner. Did right? You had the hard thing. You had to you had to find the open man, you can't should be called the pass. You can't make this out without the. Yeah. I mean when the big deal later church one way. Healthy guard Leitner later. And then as he caught it he took a dribble. I'm like, no. But now he that was that was an unbelievable moment and unbelievable performance. Right. We'll we'll show that during the live look in your Jordan story before we take a break. So joy, I'm playing in. Orlando is his last year. We played them in Orlando. I and I'm blocking shot like, I'm locking them up. Oh, I'm doing my thing. Again, I'd like to shot like three or four times. Oh, I'm having my way against them defensively. Now granted he's forty years old. But I'm feeling good about myself so fast forward a month later, we're in D C my ankle. We we go to the doctor in Baltimore. And basically tells me I'm done like my ankles. You know, once again, it's not healed. It's broken, and I have to have surgery, but I wanted to play against Jordan one last time, and we're playing the wizards is a t and t game to go out where you dominate him talking to Sean my ego like Adam the last year. One ankle give me a bunch of MO Trump came out here. And when I tell you he torched me in that first quarter like literally he gave me twenty points in the first quarter on the same play. Like, he just ran the same play every time and did and I could not guard them. And so literally I checked out of the game at the end of the first quarter at it. Even go to the I just walked back to the locker like I was. Had surgery a couple of days later, but it was like I wanted to guard Jordan one last time. And you're right. I shouldn't have I should've just let that go. He know you were wounded animal. He did. Because he went at me. And he didn't saying move. It wasn't. He didn't do anything different. It was the same. And I had nothing for Jordan. Probably had your x rays in the locker probably probably knew exactly of surprised he didn't send somebody for me to come back out. All right during the live look in. We'll recreate the Kentucky Duke play where grant makes the unbelievable pass and Leitner hits a decent jumper. We'll take a break. Also, Dan dockage public enemy number one on this show. He's going to join us coming up a little bit as well. We'll take a break nineteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Guys. Sixty six percent of men start losing the hair by age thirty five the thing is when you start to notice hair loss, you might be too late. It's easier to prevent to keep the hair you have to replace hair you've lost. So as it slowly going back. Can you just see inkling of the crop circles? If you know what I mean any bald spots. I gotta solution four hymns dot com. 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So he'll be on the call for the final four and the national title game with Nance Bill Raftery already during the live look in. If you saw if you're a Kentucky fan sorry about that. But we were trying to recreate the play where Grant Hill throws the ball, fillet, dinner and Leitner just got the ball. Nobody was there in front of him. And then grant said no, we're double teaming Leitner. He didn't put somebody on the ball, which I thought was a big mistake. When I threw it in. Yes, mclovin. That's ridiculous to Grant Hill saying you should put a guy right in front of a behind Christian late. And now he says that but he made the shot like he wouldn't have known at the time. Well, no, we we thought that somebody should have been on the ball. And then you can't let Leitner get the ball later had missed his shot the entire game. He's nine for nine from the floor ten for ten from the line. And then they let him get the ball and Leitner with. He he actually dribbles once turns and then shoots and or John Pelfrey. Yes. And McLellan's wrong Kentucky fans. One second after that shot screaming at the TV. How did you not have someone in front of back leader? It's the worst moment Kentucky basketball history. You you. Well, losing to Texas. Western was bad for Kentucky basketball yarmulke. I was so excited reenacted and hit the shopper later the first one Politik on my hands. Then I air balled. The second was not good. I know if you missed any of our interviews of from this week, the Mercedes aim man, cave, go to the Dan Patrick show app where you can watch. And listen from inside the Mercedes AMC man, cave, Mercedes AM G driving performance continental tire coaches corner brings us well should be continental tire former coaches corner because he not really a coach really player. He's an analyst ESPN college basketball analyst, Dan dockage, continental tire coaches corner. Former bowling green head coach. Indiana coach. See? Uh-huh. We did a video are this are distract video and over one hundred twenty five thousand people watched that video that we sent to you guys bother me so much you my friend Jimmy visceral every other morning says, hey. Those guys are killing you. I'm like, okay. Why did I started because you watch the show and you kept saying, hey, tell those guys to stop shooting the only one now I said what I said was only Dan shoots on TV. But that's basically what I mean. Like, I got all these text messages, I say and you rip these guys and then rhythm. I just said only Dan should shoot on TV take that however you want, but that was a compliment to you. I took it. I know that I I'm a good shooter. I just felt bad for the look at these guys they have nothing going on in their lives. And then you are ripping them. And I thought why are you acting like Bob Knight all of a sudden here? Well, I did act like Bob Knight one time in the locker room. I was I was doing an imitation him when I was a player and he walked in Ono. Yeah. So he was he was behind me. Let me see your Bob Knight. I you can't do Bob nine less. You can swear I'm being totally. So I ended the whole thing by pointing at my chair, and you mother dockage. And he was rolling in the background. He was I had my I like I was looking like an offers like you're good. You're good. And I'm like. So, but you can't you can't do nine less unless you're swearing. It's just no good. So Bob didn't say anything to he laughed like crazy, and he laughed so hard. And then he said, let's go it was before practice. A so let's go because he coats not used to do was. He was like literally if we had a meeting at six he would show up at eight, and you would all be sitting there like just like dummies literally you'd be sitting there like we kid Chuck France who kept a blog we had these notebooks. And he would keep Holly coach night was for me. And it was all her day. We sat in their store. So what's the message that he's sending to hunting hunting? And he would come in today. Like, he just got back from Beirut or. You know, and he would literally you would come in and say we'd been hunting gear. It'd be like all right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. And that'd be the hell, we're we're. Okay. But then I practice where you start to hear that language, and you know, Bob is let you knew what you were getting into when they right like the idea that kids get bothered by is so disrespectful to kids. Like, I didn't come to Indiana. And all of a sudden a guy swearing at me. And I'm gonna be upset by Aaron Henry isn't going. I can't do it. Now, you can you just can't do it on TV. Hello, Tom is. But yeah coaches are little bit. I think a lot of it actually certain coaches, are you know, you are behold into your team. I'll tell you this. My first practice on never forget it was the year after is Ahah one national championship. So it's eighty one. But it's in the fall, right? And you couldn't you didn't have workouts. Like you do. Now, you just simply started practice October fifteenth. We had some running stuff, and I swear to God my first practice I drill. I'm in a stance. And I think I'm doing good. Stop. Did you ever play defense in your? Okay. I'm I'm I weigh one hundred ten pounds. Literally. I'm in practice. And I look at Mike FOX manager. I mind I'm gonna die how much more. He looks at his watch. You couldn't look at your watch and practice with coach nine he kind of looked. He goes we've been going forty five minutes. You've got to our. I'm not kidding. I literally literally was going to die. It was. So it was so hard. Did you ever make you cry? No, no, no hit me in the face with a ball twice here in Minnesota. It's season on the brink. He got he got in. He got any wanted to play. And I was a freshman and we're playing zone play Minnesota zone. He gets he's gonna show. Ted kitchen. Rainy, women how to passing I strip it from. He's on top. I'm in zone, steal it. So he gets in can tell he's man. And he goes again he goes make pass. True story is gonna sound bad. All right. He takes dribble and I'm gonna stance. My face is exposed takes dribble. And throws a ball hits me right in the face. That's what happened here face. Oh. The mystery. And then so I give him the ball and I'm really into stance. And he does it again drills me right since season under the drills rent a face. And now, I am like cousinly mother. You know, any spins me around my shoulder, and I got my fist Lynch because I'm on that was in any Exxon back up, and he's like, all right? We're going onto something else. Well after practice he calls me onto the court over here Williams arena. And he says we're gonna punch me. I, you know, I'm a fresh as a coach is gonna knock your ass. I'm sorry. But you just hitting face twice the basketball. And then all of a sudden, I'm spun around, and it's kind of funny. This is how sick I am. I was really kind of happy about it because I didn't play the game before. And I knew he was gonna feel so bad that I was doing the game. I got into a few minutes as a sickness played at Indiana in the eighties, brother. But you think that he was testing your toughness? No, I think he literally got mad because here's a freshman. Stealing the ball from me. Okay. I wasn't. I guess later. Rainy, women and said kids told me whenever he gets into practice. You just let him make pass like oh. And you whipping over your shoulder lays, I didn't know that. I was just a freshman. Are you worried about his legacy? I mean, I don't wanna sound harsh. But I I I don't like him. I don't care. Okay. Anything? I don't have a relationship. I don't want a relationship. I won't be around him. I don't wanna see him. I don't care when did it change. You know over years. I was there sixteen years with them. And when I left he was really nasty. He really said some bad things about me too, high school coaches, and I called him on he and his son TIMMY, just because you left, and you were going now, we're going to get good dockets didn't do this. I'm like why was there sixteen years? I mean, and then so I called him on it any policy is. But are you doing that for and then when when he got fired in the end, it wasn't his fault. It was all our fault. It wasn't Isaiah's fought. It wasn't Buckner small, and it was it was the guy like me who worked for him who he could cast this. And then when I went the SPN he. I said a lot of things behind behind the scenes, the people that I didn't appreciate he just he just hasn't been very loyal guy to me. And I feel like it was sixteen years. I was very loyal guide on stupid law. Like, they my book is no man is a hero to his valet because it is pretty much valet. And. You know? I just I just don't I don't like why did you stay so long because I was told I was going to be head coaching Indiana by him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you stay here, and I'm gonna quit midway through and maybe through year, and then you're going to be the head coach. So I thought, you know, martial law for me job twice once before Billy Donovan got it pi four five schools, and then when when bowling green came open I had to get out. I'd had enough of him. And he probably had enough of me. I just had to get out of we're talking to Dan dockage looking at my face. There is something wrong. Wait is it. Are you just noticing? You're usually my mind, my hair looks good. No, my no, it just looks bad Europe Cosso painting in real life. Again, you're all like your stuff's all over the place. I'm saving my head. When the season's over and coming home. Really? Yeah. It's you that I'm gonna put some advertising on the Hong. Hong. He didn't frizzy looks really good. You done. Can. I say one thing about for instance. Yeah. I love how much he loves his family. I do I love when fritzy gets going about. So what you're saying is we don't love our. But he just says love how much he talks about his bar mitzvahs. And what he does for his kids that he asked you to do a video. Night. Then why why do you hear isn't going to help me too much? She have more sympathy for your wife. Now, you're looking at yourself on Cameron you're going God. She's got a look at this. If you look at my wife's in this is true. She literally gets mistaken constantly for Jennifer Aniston shoe store. Look up Lee Ross on Twitter picture on ESPN is right next to Jennifer. And I look at it all the time. Not not great selfish. This what's how'd you pull that? You know, I'm not bad to hang out with fun to hang. I don't want to marry you though. I just hang with you. Well, one thing I look I'm not gonna say it. My wife is is. That's okay. It's almost like she special for doing. Yes. She. Maybe she thought you were like make a wish kid, that's my she she fell in love with you. It's not the first time that's been said. We get caught up in Zion. Williamson and Zion Williamson's in most exciting basketball player in history that we've ever say is there a college basketball player you remember now wouldn't have this hype? I don't or you know, social media made Zion explode, and the fact that dukes on national TV, but from the entertainment aspect of this as anybody ever, come close to perceive. We're talking to Grant Hill, I think Christian Leitner did back in the day. I mean, you think about if you really think about Duke in those days basketball was great. I think grant played up to three years. You know, I mean Calva Cheney played for us for four. We played them in at the game. After Leitner hit the shot in the final four here in Minneapolis. The truth of the matter is late nerd before. So if you would have put social media into that era. Don't you think Leitner would have been probably beyond even what Zayn Williamson because you gotta remember the highlights. Oh, I think he's got better highlights than Zion. I'm not talking about dunce. But I'm Tom how about Seton Hall is freshman year. How many Jane winners this guy? He'll I know the biggest moment I'm not talking about beating commission. I'm right there with you. So I'm saying to us talking about excitement, the blocks and the dunks was I on I get all that. But you, but I'm I guess I'm answering more let's just say Instagram followers. Okay. If Leitner did what he did for four years now, right? If Leitner did what he did in this era of Instagram and Twitter. I think he would I think he would be now I get what you're saying little rising. He's polarized people love Zion. When's the last time we love to do player? Gotta go back to Grant Hill. Grant Hill was the most lovable Duke player. Heels iron Williams. I mean, how do you? I don't know. What is what role is parents played in just how he could stay sort of in that moment of being a kid enjoying celebrating knowing what he's got coming down the road. Maybe that's why into good mood like what you've been. Yeah. But he doesn't play selfishly, Dan. I've said this. I think Zion will the smartest basketball player in college basketball this year. I know he's the most talented. I know he runs jumps and always straw. But I think he's the smartest basketball when you watch him play basketball. I saw this in Syracuse game. This is gonna sound really nerdy basketball stupid. But there's a loose ball on the floor and watched this for myself. He didn't just dive on. Pile for loose ball, he dove where the ball was understand what I'm saying. Like he and then I'm watching him in the middle of his own. And I'm watching them in the middle zone catch basketball, and what you do with. It you shot. You look down. You look opposite. Did all that with poise took his time. And then I'm watching him on defense and the balls. Opposite him Duke has a rule that it gets. It's basically this to passes away you're in the middle of the lane or maybe he's always in the right spot. And that's is intelligence that to me is basketball smarts. I'm telling you once you coach any more me. Because I like my life. Nobody's offering me a job. Okay. You every verse over there? I know I didn't. But yes, I did. You know what? I mean. Like, my wife is there and I'd like my life. You're doing great. I'm having fun. And I can't tell you how much I don't know why you guys bothering me so much. I'm just look at it. Because you're you allow us I'm Bob night with the ball. And throwing it in your face is really figured if I'm not going to reenact that like you did what do with grant. Yeah. I'm not doing during the live look in we want. If you've ever wanted to see Dan dockage shoot in. Nobody's Indiana to coach tonight didn't wanna see him shoot. I'm going to have you go against the dannettes and then. Just you just you just shoot. Let's see what you got shot one ball in five years. No, no, no, no, no. Now. No, let's bring down. Let's bring out the violin. Yeah. You're sad. You had sent me. You sent me a picture of you with a basketball on your Harvard t shirt on a sense. You don't ask me yesterday drilling? A three on the court over here, it I will tell you took one take with the truth is about twenty takes. That's what I thought McGrath who was videoing. It says man, you're swear. Whereas it getting. He's Dan dockage ESPN college basketball analyst joining us continental tire coaches corner. We'll come back by way, Bruce Pearl top of the hour and Chris beard will join us in the final hours. Well, Dan, dockage puts on a shooting display that would make Stevo for jealous right after this. Everybody's got it to do this. 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It wasn't permanent that I think they did an experimental year with the three point line back then and Indiana had great shooters. I think that that might have been the first year fulltime, but they had Randy Wittman and Ted Kituyi believe they were really really good shooters. How different is a game. Now, like a guy like Radi Whitman would've shot five hundred three's and shot eight dances. Yes. Yeah. But you had offered I mean Bob Knight embraced it because he had offered and let him shoot. And that's when they had that up-tempo style when they played against UNLV. And everybody's like you can't run with UNLV. And then Indiana did ended up winning. Yeah. I was just setting you up to say that you didn't have a three point three point line, which might have been nice. Yeah. Yeah. When the only way to. Stop me was with a handgun but league rules frowned upon. Yeah. Paulie? I just looking back to see how many shots per game threes per game guy like Steve Alford took because you're right. Eighty six eighty seven was the first year. College basketball had it so offer its first year he attempted six threes game, which was top three in college basketball that year. He went in heavy, you know, his three point shooting percentage was his senior year at Indiana offers. Yes, this is nuts. I just double checked at fifty five percent. Fifty three percent from three. They must not knowing how to guard it back then offers one of the great shooters who's ever played the game. Not me. Really? He's up there with Rettig. And some of these other guys that are just abs- knocked down shooters. Do we have this day in sports history, by the way, continental tire proud to be the exclusive tire the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive what you drive how you drive continental desires for what you do. For more information. Visit cut military dot com. Continental tire for what you do by the way. Dockage was correct with his wife looking like, Jennifer Aniston. She's very striking. And weird that she gave me your digits. So that was kind of awkward. Yes. Yes. Mclovin. You have sort of Ross. I did she said you look like David Schwimmer. I said well, thank you, can we let's be friends. All right, bowling. What do you have this day sports history? Dan, you're gonna love this one nine hundred seventy four Hank Aaron tied babe. Ruth's major league home run record with seven fourteen. Was that on live TV or do you? Remember it? I was I think during a day game against the reds, and he homered off Jack billing billing ham, and then they they made him play in those games in Cincinnati because they they were going to have Hank. Aaron sit out those games and go to Atlanta, and then try to break the record there. So he homers seven fourteen goes home, then it's a night game against the dodgers and Al downing. And I remember watching that game. And because I was a Hugh the his ability to use his wrist to hill homerun now because guys talk about torque their lower body, Hank. Aaron and Mike Schmidt were the two guys who hit home runs with their wrist. And Hank just had because he wasn't a big guy. And he just had that. Ability to be able to use those risks to hit home runs. Also on this day in sports history. Infamous Carl Tuffy Rhodes nineteen Ninety-four Chicago Cubs in his debut with the team being became the first player nationally history. Hit three home runs on opening day. So in one game with the cubs. He had three home runs. How many home runs the finish with on the season five? He finished with eight. Oh did. Well, he went to Japan and like a week later. No, no, no. Because if little longer than that before he went this day in sports history. Brought to you by continental tire. They remind you to take five minutes at the beginning of every month. 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Not only do you have to deal with the kids you have to deal with all their parents to. But in basketball, you only have to recruit like five or six guys each year. So it's different imagine. If you're in football, and you're out there recruiting thirty. I can't imagine that gamma clump, college coaches sweat through nine shirts. The MBA guys just sort of stand there. It's much harder chop the guys we have in everyone seems like they're on the verge of a stroke every every day. Well, Bruce Pearl, Bruce Pearl. Always looks like that. It's like, you know, this walking corpuscle when you're going on like that was his nickname walking corporal Senate. See, yeah, he'll be joining us coming up the top of the crispier. I don't think we've had Chris beard on before. But the Texas Tech head coach will join us coming up as well. What other questions do you have? Okay. If you have tickets to one big event the final four the national title game. In college football Super Bowl World Series. 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The Maui Bump Returns!

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The Maui Bump Returns!

"Title since he won't be covering how the Maui invitational the Maui bump is back all all of the teams that we saw in. Maui are doing big things in college basketball. At the moment we are also going to have tate's PAC twelve update which we put on hiatus because Doug Gottlieb never we were talking to our last podcast. I just thought about that today. I learned so much that amount of but I feel like we didn't talk about anything college. We did it no I asked you why don't you go to UCLA? And then the podcast into your question. We still know but we loved it. Oh Yeah we did not do the PAC twelve update Thursday sedate. We have a lot of my God. The PAC twelve were out for Kim Palms like undefeated teams. You know that. That's all done all right. All right we're gonna hit everything going on in the PAC twelve. We're GONNA hit the wildest Saturday we've had of college basketball yet this year I would need. Saturday is better than the one before it. You're not it only gets better number. One team in the country loses number two team in the country. Yes the number. Four team in the country lost other wish begs the question or any of these. Tv We're not sure we're going to cover as much as we possibly can but first would you do all right before we get started. I WANNA give a shout out to. I WanNa make sure I do. I always going to do it at the end but I WANNA make sure I get it out of the way. The club showing scholarship that I started and we have our three finalists. I WANNA I WANNA announced that three finalists are on the show so that way people can kind of follow along. There's nothing there's nothing they can do at this point. You can't vote. I can walk out. No so we we had. We had Multiple people will put it that way. We had a lot of people apply for the scholarship. Had to tell a lot of people know a lot of great candidates didn't read over the application so I'm just assuming they were candles. Titus applications get enough the committee sorted through it If you're new to the program the committee has all former division. One walked onto themselves. They were voting on the scholarship And here are three finest aid mcquaid from Colorado. He's he's one of them I hope I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say this butchers name on you. Bucci Isa Kudo from pit. I actually think I'd nailed it. He's a coup on your Bucci. Kudo from from Pitt and Tate Clayton. Well threats from Mississippi State. Well my family named Clayton family. That's my dad's mom's maiden name Clayton and then Romell. Yeah Yeah my grandma yeah. He's no longer with US recipes But Clayton family and then we also have a taped which is also you know linear. Wow who take so is this. Is that me. I think I need those. Those are three fought us. I want to give those guys a shout out. Only one is going to win. Only one of them is going to get the fifteen thousand scholarship. Unfortunately I can't give all of them but one of them will win. And when are we going to get your tolerance you? We're going to have the winner. The winner will be on the program here. And we're going to. We're going to Dang so if you're Colorado pit or Mississippi State Colorado is going to make the tournament right so yeah they're fine but maybe they could win a little more but if you're a pit or Mississippi state fan like man. I wish I had. I think Mississippi State might make the tournament. Actually yeah they may yeah. I think they're on the I I haven't I haven't we don't do bracket allergy here. You tell us the point is none of these teams are GonNa win the If you're a fan of one of these teams who's going to win a scholarship? That's what I meant. So none of these teams are going to win the title but speaking in Colorado Do you WANNA start the update or do you. WanNa talk about the big Monday that we just saw where your beloved. Acc title is now within grasp of the Florida State seminoles every single year at going in the AFC sort of happens in the NFC south and football. Everyone's like I love the buccaneers this year. You know what I mean but you don't really love the buccaneers you know they're not probably going to win. Because you know you have the saints and these other teams in the ACC every year. It's like of course due North Carolina North Carolina this year sleeper. They're always the pig we sleeper. Pick the seminoles. But they're not going to actually do it right and this is the year that they may actually do it because Liu was we saw this game as soon as you kind of push back against Louisville when things go Louisville the most mets no we team in college basketball. It's Bill Murray's in the House you got to play these bad luck. We have to. We have to talk about this. I swear every game I've watched every game every Louisville game. I've watched where they're not at home. They lose Jordan were like Shit and Bill Murray's at the game and I swear it's every day I must have only watched three games. You're this happens every single time Louisville. Who said it's not that they lost they lost is that they came out playing really well as soon as a little adversity hits they fold and have the. They are unbelievably mentally weak. It's very concerning Mike. Rutherford is back did not carrying about the title anymore. It's a flip on Saturday. If they blew up North Carolina Rutherford's putting out to the so fresh is Louisville is stacked on paper. You see it in flashes that they should be so so good and they're just not and they don't have no. I mean if that game would have. They would have kept playing ten more minutes for some reason if the scoreboard like during the time out. The score operators would editon ministers for fun floors. They would want to buy sixty. Let's Louisville thrown in the towel. Long ago they were done. It was basically a fifteen overrun from far to say where they started just throwing each other and every single time they decided. I guess I can Doklam this. Possession Trim Forest Jay Walker. All these guys running Patrick Williams. Yeah that's the only way we scratch. We talked about the classic celebration. Watch your head. That was all over the place. A Florida State. People love it. They were you know chaining. Fsu which they love. They love that chain like they love it and they got that thing rolling which is nice. The Real Big Story is that Louisville Dino Gaudio and Dino Gaudio is responsible for wake forest is collapsed to five and in two thousand nine both times they were number one in the country just like Louisville. Is this year and it all connects and. I don't know what's going to happen because like you said Bill Murray's bad luck gaudio may be bad. We're not sure. We have not confirmed that the Louisville needs to turn things around and when he hits in the tournament inevitably will. It seems like they absolutely are the perfect to seed in your brother. They're going to fold. They always do. I mean this team is we saw last year with do. That's what started the whole thing. It's just like it's ironic. That they're the cards because they will guard. Yes that's exactly. What the heck over here folks in talking about the ACC but can we can we get past the ACC? Does anything else. Can we get to the real conference that matters in this country which is the PAC twelve which I wanna I wanNA start with with an opening word? What you know. I just wanted to say this start as a punishment but now I just WanNa start with an opening sentence which is the UCLA bruins coached by. Cronin have won five games in a row and are currently one half game behind the first place in the PAC twelve standards. That's it that's all that's all. I wanted to say that. That's the only note I have. That's not true but it is the only note that I put in bold. That's the only one I hadn't bowled here. Well I have a better new for you because I have two friends of the program that we both adore in love in the world of college basketball the first one is of course a dick. Vitelle Aka dickey V. We all love him. He tweeted the wide open. Pac twelve has a big match up between a player's program Arizona versus Oregon. Who's also at the time nine? Four nine five. Obviously we know that game. We'll talk about that. Game is part of the update But he also says Colorado Arizona have four. L's hottest team is UCLA men's basketball who have won four in a row which now five in a row. Yes now five in a row. This is going into Saturday games. Part of the pack of updates. So Tom Henry His name is Tucson. Twitchy is a handle. He responds back which we love on this program. When you connect things that goes dicky Dicky Nicky? How hard is it to look at the conference? Standings under the heading streak and properly report. Oh wait the same alpha that employees Mark Schlabach so I guess probably reporting is an important hate. Asu but have to give them respect. Who WHO's this? What's The guy's name? This guy's name is Tucson twitchy and we have him on the phone now. Let's actually apply for the scholarship. Also very upset. Where's the fourth zero? Kelly uses? The guy comes out and says this. Ucla is the hot ticket right. Everyone wants to pick a UCLA. Set Davis comes in after that he goes hottest team in the country. Ucla bucket we know this Arizona State Sun devils are coming in hard. They're like Bobby Hurley. Doing a great job. They blew out. Ucla February six like eighty four. Sixty six homie to that something like that. Anyways that can I just point out. It would be hilarious that you started. You've done a shift in your strategy that you don't have no no no no. It's not I don't want to pack updates when you had notes we're getting all sorts of facts wrong just became part of the Pack Twelve. Update everything wrong. It would be beautiful if like you're looked at it. You recall off eighty four to six February six. Look it up. I think that's the score. That's what happened. Gigi says set Davis says the. Asu people are coming in hard. They're like we won six zero. We're the best of the fact. Well why do you not respect us? Dickie said Davis read all the replies and then they come back said Davis basically qualifies as whole Stevens saying. Here's what I exactly the best of the hottest okay. Not the best but the hottest and people obviously were like. Okay thank you suffer clarifying Dickie. V CLARIFIES comes back. Says there's a lot going on in the paper. A lot of teams contending organs evolve. Colorado's beautiful people need this. Dickie said Davis. They are the two that you can just like banter with on twitter. You can just make a full loop like trying to explain this. They're like you remember like when people will get the Alexis and they have the Alexis talking to each other and they're just be like back and forth where the Alexis hurt. That's like Dickie Davis on twitter. Just like set them. Both up several rows will set up next to each other and they're just watched them talk to each other. It's a feeder system in content. And this is what we need and we always talk about. How do you connect the tissue between all these characters right mark? Schlabach we call in this program release. The tapes released the tapes Passenger Mark Sleigh botch because he was accused of not having these tapes that Shawn Miller was apparently had. We talked about money that was apparently being paid to someone that it'd Arizona. Who HAPPENED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE? Pick all in that world right so this says you know. Our boy puts it out. Tucson twitchy response and the Arizona fans are fired up right so Arizona State. They have some news coming out about sanctions and nobody cares about the. Do you want to talk about? I care that was part of the update on Friday yes. Ucla the the media the media won't use dollars. And I want to point this out is 'cause I went on a golf trip with their buddies Arizona State along the coach the guy who Who had the tweet about Kobe with the flowers and all that he's he's a good friend of ours. We're worked together at the ringer. He's a big mistake. I was a manager on the team for her Sunday. We're up in Ohio this week in golfing and he he brought it we. We were talking about this scandal. We want to call it. I Don I think scandals too strong work Arizona State booster that is sexually harassing was sexually harassing people including Bobby Hurley's wife including a an associate athletic director's wife. That associated electric was fired and now he's suing the school saying the reason was fired is because he went to the athletic director said this. Mantis harassing my wife. Do something about it. They said yeah but he gives us money so we're not going to do anything about it. There's this whole story. It's bad it feels like they kind of have taken care of whatever But the noteworthy thing to me was Schwartz. Who is sort of plugged into the scene? He said to me when he saw the story he knew exactly who the guy was and then he read the story and it was actually a different guy. Just never. That's never good. That's so apparently there's multiple people in the sports. I was certain it was this guy but it was actually a different guy. Which makes me really worried that this other guy there are multiple Arizona state. That was the that was the PAC twelve updated. They've won six games in a row. Ucla first place by themselves. Yeah that's great. Yeah the eighty four eighty four to sixty six. We always have to bring that up because Ucla fans were at the very excited about this whole new run which gets us to UCLA RIGHT. The darlings of the media. Everyone is right there with Mick Cronin. They're like he's got this team playing defense. They had zero turnovers in the second half against Colorado on Saturday. Zero turn grow and if you watch. Ucla play this year. That seems like the most made up. You told us in December when we saw the North Carolina at the CBS Classic. If you came up dozen said. Ucla against a ranked team web zero terms in the second half. I'll probably would have bet my life. That's impossible yeah like ability but it's not because Mick Cronin has these guys buying the power of negative thinking threatened to be murdered Charles. Your coach I'm going to turn the ball down and then you build them back up and apparently. Ucla has built back up. Which is that. It's more news in the PAC twelve again Arizona. State the hottest team not the best team. Ucla maybe the team also is not in the tournament quite yet yes where we are but also Oregon has the best player and is also hot. Yes because they are also getting crunch time in overtime this their fifth overtime to win in overtime right but then Arizona is literally the hottest. Because Sean sweats on the sidelines. Absolutely sweating a lot of hot dreams of the packers we currently. I have the standings in front of me. Are you ready through them? Arizona state ten and four first place by themselves yes. There's a three way tie for second between Colorado Organ in the Ucla Bruins. The aforementioned UCLA Bruins at ten and five there half game back and Arizona's nine and five so a four game back Arizona of Arizona State but we have a lot of action this week and we have you and I are we. Are we committing going to both these games? I think we are yes. Ucla's hosting the Arizona's schools is also hosting terrorism schools but USC cares Arizona State at Ucla on Thursday so that's first place versus tied for second place and then Arizona is at Ucla on Saturday. Wow Wow this. Is The a lot of basketball left over the hottest team in the pack twelve will be this Thursday night and we will be there. We'll be in the building. We'll be able to report first hand. Who is in fact the hottest Bobby Hurley Cronin? Who WILL GET MORE UPSET? Who will sweat more? Who Will Yell more? We don't know Bobby Hurley my favorite gifts like on twitter of all time of anyone is Bobby Hurley. He's yelling at the REF. The ball gets hit over claps him knocks him out he goes down and tell the REF is just like thank. God like this guy got knocked out and then he gets up for a split second. Baba hero is not happy at all but he is doing great speaking of Hurley did you see the Bobby Hillary's brother Dan? Hurley has been subpoenaed by Kevin Ollie. It was handed to his house. Yeah you got served at Your House. You Got Sir. Literally got served at his house by Kevin Ollie. For the the Kevin Ollie Arbitration. He's going through with Yukon. Because you can't fired him said we have caused and said what your cause and then we all got to make the joke of. Its Causey sucks coach basketball and remember the story. That was a good cause. I think a lot of people were like. I don't know that whole lawsuit going on. It's a read on what people what people think should have because in my mind like yeah of course. Kevin broke some rules. He's a college basketball coach. Like you can't believe a fish for swimming. You know what I forgot. What are we doing here? Pay The man that was my stance but then you go on twitter and people seem to be split like even Yukon fancy split as to what should happen like whether there should be paid the money he was owed or if he did breach his contract. Whatever as it's going back tug tug of war like you know what I'm GonNa Introduce Dan Hurley into this mix because Dan Hurley was the Rhode Island coach as I was going through all this and I don't know but also he's getting paid by the squeeze getting my money and he's not trying to pocket watch but he is also say you got my money and I need that and I need that right now because that's my money and Dana taking charges on the sidelines. Like this is your Mans like this is the guy that's taken. This is taken charges. I'm out here winning National Championships and this is what I'm dealing with. So I think Kevin pay them in. Give him his money he does. This is the day we've gotten to UCONN. Yeah so that's always always. Do you WanNa talk about the other teams packed. All the the last undefeated team in college basketball. Yes because again. This was a big day for us because we had talked about going to the weekend for the listeners. That don't know we were going to go to this game. We're going to go down to San Diego State. We'RE GOING TO WATCH HIS UNDEFEATED TEAM. Soar into the annals of college basketball history. And what did they do? Mark Titus a West Coast. Us put up done. They ran out of time. What they did they ran out of time. They did not lose why they were coming by. And we didn't even talk about it because we're like we WANNA Jason. You know these guys. They got a lot. Golly talked about it we came on the show. Guys go to a game there. Were like what we're thinking about it. And then he has the audacity to put it on us that we use them like we didn't. We weren't gonNA talk about it. He's one of brought it up in the now it falls on us We're still going. I think right yeah I think so. I think we're GonNa see I feel tomorrow morning. One see two or three seed and then I still see bragging towel again. Put out there them as a one-seat one game three seed eating. I mean admit it. I feel like whatever their resume says. The committee is is licking their lips. Condoleeza Rice as she watched that game. They're living their lives at the opportunity to do state. Of course I was very disappointed. I think this is this is this was a game where you talk about when when when people talk about how like teams should lose before it's not good to go to the NCAA tournament undefeated a game like this. Why because you're watching the last five or six minutes senior status panicking like crazy? They're not playing. I mean it was mind blowing. The plane like they were downtown. Ten with a minute to go say they were not playing Aztec new that we understand. This is not as not not not our guys. What is going on now? Let's figure this out. You're playing Cougar Basketball Malachi. Yeah no but they panicky like crazy. Matt Mitchell was like Outta control. It was unbelievable and I was thinking like it was. It was pretty clear that they weren't trying to stay the course and win the game and they were. They were very clearly like shit. They're going to blow this undefeated season. They were playing to win. They were playing to not lose. Whatever the terminology was. It was very clearly like they had a different vibe of the kids at home. You play to win. Yes and I think this is what you talk about because like when you go to the tournament and your undefeated and you do have the extra you can say as much as you want to like. You're trying to win every game and NCAA tournament just like you are trying to win every other game. But if you're undefeated there is extra pressure it's like Shit we've come all this way. We can't live blow it now right but yeah you can get it out of the way blow it now and then now you can now. We can proceed more loss. I think this this is a good loss because again they were down and they made a nice little. Come back again again. I sent you the screen shot of the score because again planning to go to the game on Tuesday so I'm court let me check in on this. Cbs sports hard to find The CBS sports channel. That they were on anyways. Pull my phone look it up. I'm like wow course it's going to be L. But then they make a nice little. I turned it on and they make a nice little run and I'm like they were making a nice run up. They didn't ask basketball. They were they were simultaneously making nice run but also panic. They're nice run was spearheaded by great defense. It was really by Penny. They're like pressing and then they were planning bomb. Unlv was Blowing it. They couldn't make a shot Mitchell long so that was helping matters then when we get the ball they were also panicking on offense. Yes it was just full blown panic and it helped me come back up the rush and no one really understands what's going to happen in the end because all these teams are jumping up together. Yeah Mitri Long said I did see this quote after he did the interview with Andy. Katz the like the is the post game interview on Skype with indicates. The new like Jim nance tight. That's the regular season gymnast tie. I think if you find yourself at the end of the night do a skype interview over grainy video on with Atta Yeah. Yeah with with Eddie. Cats he made. You're like the play of the day. Yes congratulations you win. So meter long doing the interview and he said we match up well with them and that stood out to me because you could make the argument that saint of your state didn't actually lose. It was a bad match up and and you throw that out. That doesn't count as a resume. Okay so they're still undefeated still undefeated. Okay is where I stand on and also ran out of time. They were coming back. They would have won it just. They just ran out of time still undefeated in the PAC twelve. As is the other team that we're talking about right. Now which is the Gonzaga bulldogs in the PAC twelve? And they had a game going into this where we are with split. This is hard divided on this program because we do love one program. We learned this Maui and we love one coat. He's the young pope and he's Mark Pope and he has Jake Tulleson and all these guys fired up there wiry characters but they also didn't have yellow child's in Maui so we knew this wasn't the fully for Byu team but they're also getting chippy. There were also learning how to lose there. Were also coming together as a team. Mark Pope speaks in front of the MAUI crowd and he gets his team to answer. Like what do we need to do guys? And they're like rebound and thing and bill sells like. I wish I get my team to say in Unison. You know. And that was what we learned about. Byu Really Oh this a real team. And then they show up they beacon Aga-. I'm not sure it matters but made me believe. Oh it matters. Byu Is legit. Child child's makes them a great these the brain Davies of this year new Genera- I'll say this I cannot remember a time when catering to finish the joke. Okay you can remember the time when I'll say I'll finish the show. I can't finish the joke. My mom would be very mad any Laura I was gonNA make it okay. Here's the here's the job you're ready you. I didn't say the joking. I'm giving you the pieces if you're listening to home constructed as you see fit fill in the blank. The joke is a pope was excited to see childs. That's the joke boom. I mean they're the joke has been filled and they're real. We Love Mark Pope in Maui Not just the way. He coaches the team. But the like in terms of of the sets running for Tulleson and Hawes and and just the way. Byu's fundamentally sound as you might expect Kubrick TV like to call it on this program. We love his personality. We LOVE IN THE POST GAME press conference they lose. Who DID THEY LOSE IT? They lose a Kansas. Yeah they lost a Kansas or lose Dayton. I don't remember. I think they lost Dayton actually lost their mind Anthony and grant. It was great press card for a losing team in a winning team. But the way the way pope just like carries himself so impressed us he was. He was so much. Fun at the the Luau before the whole event. He was very personable very just outgoing He seemed like a guy like you and I were both. We fell in love them. Nothing about the guy before he got there and we love them and then they begins agitate and he goes to the local bar. He picks up a sixteen hundred dollar tab for all the student section. Did you see this? No I didn't really believe after the game you know get yet. It sounds like I saw the video. He said he got a brand new custom suit. Made for the game and then he got Alston Water and he was worried that he he ruined a suit. So but that's okay mark. It's okay mark sort of the program win a signature win. These are the things that we count on this program of things. Keep your round Shaka. Smart's looking for him everywhere scrambling around Mark. Pope got one against Gonzaga. It seemed like the Gonzaga team at one. Point was kind of tip of the cab. I mean this is a Byu team. They're playing at home. They're fired up. I'm never seen the rage in energy in fans like the Byu game. And I say that as both a compliment in both of. I don't know if I need to go there to a game anytime soon. Because these kids are fired How do they do it on their heads explode on? Mike? Let's are they doing the are they doing doing acid that Grand Canyon but I know I know I know. That's what I'm asking is like the Mormons and you can't do like all these drugs but like is there a synthetic drug that is not in the golden tablets. Is that the idea. Is that like it's called Caffeine. They have the set rules of what you're not allowed to do. So let's figure out a drug that does not fit in no set rules and let's do that. Let's get let's get rocked shop. We're slapping floors. We're coming for you. Watch out of fruit stripe going. That's what I'm saying anytime honestly anytime anytime college kids get that rally by far my favorite pack twelve crab. We'll say that my favorite anytime college kids get their rowdy. And you're telling me they're not doing any drugs like I'm trying to figure out what's going on here. There's gotta be something on here. Yes Jay Tulleson addict. He said that they're here. Ready to play I had I had a bit of Trivia for the PAC twelve. If this is the real this is a real PAC twelve not west coast PAC twelve actual facto of Washington as of this recording. Washington is fifty seven on Kim Palm. Washington you might remember dead last in the PAC twelve three and twelve. I believe the wheels it completely fallen off for Washington Washington state. They are higher in Kim. Palm by twenty nine spots there twenty nine spots higher on Kim then. Ucla who is oh poster. Just fill. If you're listening we're good. Washington is ranked fifty seventh on campus. As of this recording. Ucla's eighty-sixth us. Sixty I and Washington is fifty seven. They are only two spots behind Arizona. State WHO's fifty five? Who is in first place by themselves? That is State Pactel basketball team. That has three and twelve actually might be better than the team that is in first place by themselves returned at night. You all get in the middle. It's all be average and let's all see who's the most average at this point in time and that is what packed will basketball is the beauty of it at some point It's also why can be taxing at times. But Bill Wada's very jacked up about the PAC twelve the state of the pack twelve about Ucla. Being bagged which I have to bring this all back if Ucla makes the tournament. This is one of the biggest. Sa- greatest stories sports. I mean it might. It might be the most shocking turn of events it may show how bad college basketball is because basically Mick Cronin convincing. Ucla to just simply play defense. That's all he had to do this. Please try on defense and I promise you something good will happen. And he was right. I I am very excited from Cronin to be about Bob Knight young crowd. Ucla doing yelling at this team everyday. Practice Bob had no microphone trying to silence the entire waves. Excuse like shut up shut. And he really honestly thought when defense it's going to reverberate throughout the entire did my mind. God. I had one other. No it was a trace tinkle son of of Waiting head coach Oregon State. Yes was he from the game at Arizona this past weekend or less there's was thrown bows and I noticed in the post game press conference Shawn Miller said that it was what was what do you call it. He said it was a common move back in the day he described his communist. Shawn Miller remember played at a school called. Pittsburgh which you might remember. Oh biggies wasn't old big east. I like that. From from Sean Miller bring it a little bit biggies back saying that trae single should not have been injected. 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Google impact will basketball turned up. This headline the pact will finally has twelve football head coaches for now for so those are the headlines. Impact will basketball. Who's leaving the next? We'll find out next week. Let's talk about the Kansas Baylor game. Kansas Yes Beats Baylor EPA Baylor's twenty three game winning streak snapped Kansas solidifies. Their position as the best team in college basketball have been they have been all year. Yeah we just don't want to put the pressure on them have been the best. We said the Maui Bob Frisch. Let's let's let's revisit. Who was in Maui talk we have Kansas? Who is the number one team in the country? Okay yes we have deigned the only team in the country that is not lost steam Gonzaga. Okay have not lost and regulation. They're the only team in the country now and other than San Diego state which. Byu WHO's the hot new thing? Yes they're coming. Up Ucla. Who's the real like? The greatest stories sports do we have Georgia. Who did you see Anthony Edwards Dunk? Vanderbilt yes do you know Georgia's and third place and that's I do not. I mean they WANNA game thing I was GonNa say I don't know what they are in the rankings. We also know that they should've lost Sharon lived next to last Georgia should lost eighty to seventy seven again. Don't check the facts but on somewhere. Nova say November twenty seventh day loss or they won eighty to seventy seven three to win the game. Tom Green acted like they want my thirty points. And learn the SEC. Michigan State. Virginia Tech. I smoked by Duke. Shamanov is John. That's actually undefeated. Did you know that just made that up? I hope I love that every time. I say no silver sorts. I mean honestly the look like you believe in maybe notes. I don't know being the Maui. Bump is back Kansas. The best team in the country Bouquet is has has established himself as he suddenly getting your bus from just not just from this one game maybe from just this is that what a great year obviously like for the player of the year and Azabu gave you know we know him? He's a familiar character interact. He gave the perfect message to the haters which was basically like. I hear all the noise. I hear all these people trying to say. I can't move my feet. You think I can't move my feeding. CaN'T SHUFFLE MY FEET. Watch me shuffling my feet which to me. I Say I'm pretty sure. Those are all the coaches telling you that the other people are saying. You can't move your feet. But he listen to them. He did it. He moved his feet. He got a lot of rebounds had nineteen rebounds had a great game and we learned why the pick and roll works because he said a Boston. And I love this. This was my favorite takeaway from this entire game was like the discourse in college basketball the understanding by Golly back in here so he could roll his eyes at the XS and os of all this. Yes the understanding of of schemes in college basketball is at such that the bar is so low that bill self setting ball screens in the middle versus on the side has like revel has blowing everyone all. That's all the talk about this game is. I'm bill self playing Chess Scott. Drew was playing with food or because he was so much smarter than Scotch Ruin. This game really boils down to Baylor's defense is literally called no middle defense and they say we are going to not let you in the middle. Kansas tried to set ball screens. And the first game. It was not working they were downing slash icing. Whatever you WANNA call it So BILL SELF SCOTT ICING BILL SOLUTION TO NOT BE ABLE TO SET BAL screens in game. One was what if against the no middle defense we start in the middle and then that way the no middle has to allow us to be in the middle and everyone's like cultural. Yes brilliant bill. That's brilliant and it actually. I mean it actually was just like not like we were watching the game tonight at Oklahoma State and Holly Rowe like a skype session with bill. Self we did mills looking at her late retirement. We said fucking ball screens in the middle. Oh Boy Elbow. Devin calls him up. Here's a little screen. Fill the basket. Here we watch film for two minutes and we didn't. We realized that could be wide. Open the entire game No that's basically what happened was was just when your defense. This says we're not GonNa let anybody on the middle and in Kansas alike. We'll watch this dribble the ball in the middle of the possession than Baylor looks. It's the sidelines to Scott. What do we do? It's got to like he's like lose twenty three in a row. We've had a great run. Let's let's wrap this so baylor in Kansas now tied atop the big twelve Baylor. Scott drew has never won. I assume Baylor hasn't either schedule has never won a big twelve regular season or tournament title. He's never made fun of Forte. To continue so badly as this would be so perfect if Baylor has like a season for the ages a season where they're the number one team for a long time where they're so so good and discovery streak continues of him not actually winning anything and then we can continue to ask you coach. I don't know we need more time. Well the best thing that he did in this game was. He didn't make any adjustments. So the good news that maybe just maybe in the tournament if they play each other and championship he can make those adjustments and then they can win the tournament and he gets getting some serious 2014 Florida vibes from Baylor. Yeah we're like this. Not even an insult. What's funny is I bet? Some people probably took that as an insult. It's not an insult Florida's the best team that the entire season in twenty fourteen. They lost in the final four. They made the final four. That'd be great you're familiar but if you look back on the twenty fourteen Florida team. Their best players were Casey Scotty will begin and and I think finish. Smith was on the team but he was came off the bench. They did not have the show. Walter discount double check year reign. Yeah Yeah they had a Michael Frazier your guy. Because he was he was also on the team. They they're only losses. They lost at at a gamble pavilion. They played uconn on a buzzer beater. I WANNA say Shabazz hit it I probably Shabazz. Yeah because he had the ankle Shabazz. Hit it with the bomb ankle. And then they lost at Wisconsin who is also final four and then they lost it you kind of get in the final four. The point is they had like an unbelievable season and they went to the final four. They want eighteen. Sec and they're going to be forgotten in time like as as time progresses no one is ever going to look back on twenty fourteen Florida and be like delve a college basketball team. I feel like the same. There's going to have to Baylor because they don't have any guys that are going to be in the NBA. In seven years that you would say like that guy's an NBA player. And you'RE GONNA look back on this season when they go thirty six and thirty five and three or whatever it is fun record and I'm not impressed. Yeah and transfers sexy Perry Ellis or any of these other guys like they had back in the day quincy. Ac where you just. Kinda like knew. These Baylor faces. And you're like I can't believe that guy plays at Baylor. What a what a fascinating situation. This year I mean obviously we know the names we know the you said Perry Ellis. You met a pair of Jones. Perry Ellis clothing brand and maybe they sponsor the show because obviously without notes top of mind. Perry Jones Quincy. Ac August guys. That went to Baylor back in the day. Like you said there's no face of this team other than the schedule. We all know. Scott drew is on the line of being good for being great or being whatever he also is at a point where he's got to get over the home so this is a final four type here. I think they made the final four. People will remember which is interesting about the fourteen people. Don't they don't they? They had the weird thing. 'cause they did back to back. League eighth. I want to say with that. Same core like the Patrick. Yang has his strongest meal. Ask Young and pray there. I think we're the three seniors and they went to like three three two elite eights and then they finally the final four but it was also like kind of a choke job because they should have like boat right put the clamps on will begin. I remember this very vividly. Obviously because I was I was heartbroken. I love that Florida team but but it was sort of a job in the sense that you felt like it was inevitable that they were going to win the thing because like Yukon was not a highly seeded team. Kentucky was not highly eight-seater. Right so the final four it opened up and it was like this is Florida's Delusion. They blew it and I think that's probably part of it but Yeah I I'm not. I don't say that it's a bad thing to say like man that would really suck if that's what the destiny is is like Kansas is. Now what's the word Surp- them again? Let's just say that Served Kansas has usurp them as the top team in the country. In the top team in the Big Twelve. So there's the general public's like. Oh are you saying in the Maui opinion of the man who literally tweeted? Kansas is the best team in the country. You're going back on it now. I know canes is the best you know that's what I'm saying. Yes so so Baylor. I'm saying I never had baylor above Kansas. Oh you never in front of Kansas regardless. I mean Love Baylor Happy. There were the one seed in the country. Congratulations they're actually the new wake forest of the mid. Babb school number one seed in the country. But also it's gone that's how it's GonNa Roll. Yeah they I hope I hope. They hope they win. Something big twelve totally. I hope they hang on because they still have to play at West Virginia Kansas to Texas Tech. So who knows? Hopefully Baylor can at least turn the co-op. I just flipped on it. I said I don't want to know anything. Now I do. Because if they're going to be forgotten about and I don't want this team to be forgotten because there's a lot of fun never forget. All we want is bill self standing on the stage winning the championship. Saying thank you Adidas. Kansas Paul Rudd. Rudd's plan get the get the Kansas City chiefs. Yes we still want this. We still won't bill self at the top. There's still a chance chance what else we have to talk about. Well I mean that was the biggest news honestly. We didn't do it justice that that was such a big game because it wasn't inspiring game. Here's a question for you. Who's the best player on Kansas? Where do you stand on this now? I mean it's definitely Dotson. I think he's the best player in Kansas. But I also I'm a guy you know what I mean like. I Love Budget Nobel Eastern. So maybe but I would say Dotson. I still think Dawson should be the one considered in the race. Nash whether anyone on Kansas is really in the race Nashville ears kind of like a Oh. They're here so they need to have a guy they're going to have like to first team all Americans and neither one are taken seriously as I think I'm thinking too but as a bouquet was proof I like his Mo three ninety nine or something like that. Yeah I I really liked that. So should we do like a a a quick recap of where we're seeing? What the player of the year. I will happen toppings winning it. Of course like contain printers and a good job of of repackaging his case to be in the discussion right. I mean yeah at the moment is big stage. Gets a nice win against zone is the big brand against Nico the everyone's it won't stop Nico Anyways how dare you back? We've already begging the twelve Yes so I guess. That's an exciting run. People excited about as a bouquet like you says entered the race but like there's no one that's real people are going are are miles power. We talked about but people are turning on Garza because Iowa isn't winning quite as much. They're still waiting but not quite as much. I think the secret is out that that team zero defense whatsoever and Garza himself lease era. Defense being so abrasive. They've turned people away demarcus. Our cat fans are holding all sorts of media. People Mad Right now. They're like we did not do this. You did this. Nowhere kidding. All the media that love Margaret's Howard are being held at gunpoint Margaret. Tweet it but it's interesting because Kansas might have frame for shield was hitting this point tonight a lot that they might have the best point guard and the best centering basketball and I feel like for me. The Guy the only point guard that I I like better than Dotson is maybe pain. Pritchard and the only big. I would like better than I was. Maybe Garza Garden play. Defense is a bouquet does play defense as long as it's not a ball screen Wa. He's got calls him out for not moving his feet then he will play defense. Whoever put that together that package whoever showed that him before. That game gs so yeah. Can't this I I've been consistent with this? You've also been consisted of this. We think they're the best in the country. We have all season we since we saw them in Maui. They passed the test with flying colors. Their are extremely long. They have if they do have the best point guard and Best Center or second best. Point Guard second-best whatever it is they also play the best defense in the country. They play by far the hardest schedule in the country I don't know it seems to me that Kansas is pretty clearly the best team. And that's that's wherever getting come back. You know I mean you like you know he did. All this has happened he side. There's still you got a twelve game suspension. And he's going to be back for the tournament so Kansas going to get better and I think that's really the takeaway is that Kansas is really good Kansas. We'll get better in Kansas the best team in the country. What what other. What other Games we need to we need to talk about Penn State blowing to Penn State? Did I feel partly responsible for this. I did the fake Report returned to the Camera Day. Did they follow you? Did it work? It was semi successful. I got a lot of traction. From Penn State Penn state accounts like the Penn State. Big Ten network now. Talking State barstool account early all these little like affiliated Penn State unaffiliated but still affiliated but the Penn State hoops account itself did not bite so I feel like it was a failure for that reason but the point is I did the rent. I said Penn State is a national title threat or Final Four. Whatever they lost to during night in the country highest rates ninety-six highest ranking ever. But they also had it and then they lost two games to unranked teams back to. We'll look sometimes when you rise the fall and And I think with that team you know the nittany lions of course. I'm talking about a team that we both love Pat Chambers a coach that we respect I think this is probably the best that they could have hoped for Everybody wants banner you having a good year in. It'll be fine. You gotta turn me coming up the They played at Assembly Hall. I forget what the game that was used right now. Definitely come on come on yeah I'm not a bracket allergist Archie Punch the clipboard out of his assistance. And we were told to bring this up because Archie Miller being both the millers honestly they do such a good job. I mean being show themselves and I think in college basketball coaches are the shows. They are the talent people were lacking in on in both those guys deliver. If not by accident. You know what I mean. It's Kinda like what's the beauty of both in like argies actually so invested. Shawna so invested that anything can happen in fact punching aboard as possible Yeah Online TV. It it it. It conjured up the Bob Knight. He should have done that against purdue he really should`ve. I don't have a problem with a lot of people. Talk about marketing and branding and having guys in the room. You know if if you're in that room you tell Archie when Bob Knight comes back and yells deepens route you yell Defense Harder. You Del L. Deepens Louder. A lot of people were upset because we live in a society and and people don't like it when coaches get. I mean we live all the p the same people that were like crying when Tom Izzo Henry and then they asked. Aaron Henry felonies like air balled out right after that and this is all things fall. We know tate this this might have been orchestrated for all we if you if you watch the video. The coaches like holding the clipboard. In a very very like karate. Teacher and coaching third graders all perfectly to be punched out very well could have been orchestrated and and I am of the opinion that maybe it was. Maybe Archie turned his guy and it was like. I'm Jason Kidd buildings that board. Yeah there was some Norman. Dale like telling the REF GIMME attack. Was Jason Kidd. I'm going to build a lot of shenanigans going on on the sidelines. He told his assistant all the board. I'm GonNa Punch it and get the guy's going. That's what he did and now. I use rolling in there we are. I will say you think your coach is a guy that's not fired up and he's worried about facilities all the time you know. He's worried about ping pong tables and things like that. As soon as he punches the board when where he's been drawing up plays like you gotta be far we gotta get we gotta get Bill Titus his takeoff already know. Mark you fire. We've been talking about for the past twenty years. I didn't see it was Samson. I didn't see it with career but I've seen it with Archie and he takes a deep breath news. Now devante basketball back to the real spin of. Can we talk about creating for a second? Are you aware of what's happening with the creatively aware that people once again are willing to overlook anything surrounding a program for success because with Creighton? There's on a state you know what I mean. The no one cares about the or Kansas cares about all the other stuff going on with the with the bubble of conversation everyone cares about. Are they playing good basketball? Are they winning? The game is what college basketball is an crates playing great basketball the dark hausky Ziggurat Ski microscopy carter-williams Brother. Yes seven for seven from three point. Line I look this up because of the opposite of Michael Carter Williams again. We need the ancestry dot com to see if they are actually brothers. Because there's no way microbiomes could have ever done that. We love him. Look this up because you look at your watch creating enough. And you're like I mean. They got they got a tie. Shaun Alexander Mitchell ballot. They got these guys could score and you watch them enough. They show a Kansas like great player. That just came together like Tashaun Taylor Cliff Alexander Small Yard Yard and a big man very forgettable year but he also put up like eighteen. An awesome. I think about that Tashaun Alexander Year two thousand fourteen Kansas. Oh mega run. So I had this suspicion and I looked it up I did. I did. The fact shaky myself kicked Creighton has four guys on the Roster Tate who have scored thirty points a game in their career before Four Times. They have four guys who can give you thirty on any given night. Those guys are cigarette. Ski Alexander Ballot in a dense. O'mahony I've mentioned Ed. All four of those guys. Mahoney transferred in a free where he came from but he scored thirty years old school. The point is that's pretty good. That's pretty four guys. Consumer thirty points They absolutely lit up Butler. They are on fire. They're ranked hit than the country. I tweeted as watching the flipping back and forth between Maryland Ohio state and the Butler a Creighton game and I tweeted this and I believe it to be true. They created the best team in the country. By far that literally. Zero people will put in their final four. Because that is kind of where we've arrived at the same time I'm cognizant of what Crayton is doing. I see that they completely other. I see that they're on a roll. I see that they're right there in the big east race and yet when I get my bracket and Creighton is the three seed. They're losing in the second round. I'm one hundred percent because they're playing. Ucla Ones I love that UCLA tough. We're GONNA pull for them. Yeah I do funny funny. I I kind of felt the opposite. I saw everyone gonNa jump. On the bandwagon of creating from this weekend. Which I always find fascinating like who was watching college. Basketball on Saturday's see the opinions of the large set Davis and Dick vitale coming in and just being like hold. The presses phone basketball is back. You know what I mean. It's like those moments whereas this one day this one guy. There's a website somewhere that just have an active winner. Lost Streak Blue Bloods you. Just Click on store by best and then like whatever has the top win streak. You're like all right. I'll pick that team. I really love what Stephen F. Austin love that team they're doling now on a roll. They've won like there's no way you're actually falling this. The only guy believed that follows rusting. He's the only guy that's like actually knew that we plan that to say at the same time absolutely not. We just know that if any man is watching stony brook play this weekend it's gone rusting corner. I was waiting for you to bring it up. You did not so fortunate thing of bringing it up myself the Buckeyes. You're backed tape. Okay I mean for God's sake say hi. What are we into this thing? And what is the role this program? I do not watch mark turgeon better so I don't watch Maryland play. I don't have any time for that. I'd like to these are precious moments on this earth and I will not waste them watching But congratulations to the buckeyes congratulations to minos eastern of your team Luther. Muhammad we should do. We should do the nose eastern of every team. That's the guy that you gotta believe you sell for three minutes. You said that an all American League North Carolina. Lock it in all Megan. But I don't understand why is coming to fruition. You know what I mean. That's that's my new thing is like how do I get them? They're Luther Mohammed. He got there. I don't know why I guess. He was watching. Mark turgeon coach. I can be that guy. Yeah this'll be the day we have twenty two points at twenty. Two he was he was he was hot from three playing good defense Wiggins was going off Maryland but Yeah Jane Smith Ivy Game. Cowan was not playing well but then he was about to. That was the thing. Excuse me all the Maryland thing. All the Maryland Mellow Trimble. It looked really good happened yet. Then he got the technical foul bogus technical that all the Maryland fans were losing their minds and they said that even though how state was kicking their ass the entire game and was up fourteen in the second half change momentum. If you've been watching Maryland this year tate. They get down a lot and then they come back and win so they do. They were about to flip. The Switch Urban Basketball Terrapin basketball they purposely suck and then they don't suck anymore unfortunately the rest got in the way and wouldn't let Cowan Cook like he was going and that's that's the takeaway from Maryland and to that I say maybe don't be down by a lot. Know what I what I appreciate for. Maryland fans is the perseverance. You know what I mean because like I put up. I'm like cans. Basketball is the best team in the country. Kansas is number one. You know this and you see the replies from people and people are like what about Gonzaga were about Dean then I saw some Illinois fans and I'm Kinda like obviously you guys but I love it I love it so Illinois fans with during their never will you see in Maryland. Fans stick their neck out. You know what I mean. I don't know if it's a turtle thing I don't know what it is. But they will not stick their neck out for mark turgeon. I agree with him for not doing that. And they know in you know and I know and Mark Turgeon knows That they're not gonNA do anything but we'll say this but okay. I like to see more than their other teams. I doubt this is my favorite mark the ever. That's I don't know how I don't know if that means anything but in a world where Mick Cronin has brought. Ucla basketball back. I do not doubt that margin can revive Maryland basketball. I do love how much Maryland fans seem to be into winning the big like this is a big deal to them which is great for the big ten because there's still like element of of Maryland and rutgers don't belong it's not because they're not good feel right you're right. Yeah but it an for Maryland. I rutgers to the ACC bring Maryland to the ACC and get them home where they belong. That's where they should be and then trade maybe some other teams as is up there. You go back. I believe Maryland's up two games in the big ten race but their first place by themselves. They give it three game lead. And they're right there. They're probably going to win. The big ten and I. It warms my heart that it matters to them to matters to the fans that they. WanNa win the big ten. That is that because that is something I feel like the biggest as Maryland Fan Zoo Rosenberg fans but big Dickson is the only conference in the country where like winning the big ten matters to like to the big ten people in to the like you can win the big ten and lose in the first round of the tournament and be like hell of year for us we did. You won the big ten so from Maryland to feel that way over Maryland fans to already be in a position where they're like well maybe. Maryland is a big word executive. We're going to win the big ten and we're GONNA to lose in the second round but it's going to be a hell of a year. That is a big thing. Mindset welcome to Maryland. You're officially in the big ten. Come on Maryland. You can do it when the big ten guys are. Also back side of of the most important thing. We don't have a meal with the bucket. Graduations Coleman Anything else before we go honestly. I just WanNa shout out the fact that we watched. We didn't watch this together with the Kobe. Tribus was here today and it was a beautiful scene with so many people there that were given their appreciation Kobe. So many great speeches Michael Jordan. I'm North Carolina Fan. I want Michael Jordan Fan. He's I've seen him speak a lot of a lot of public events and boy has he'd never delivered like he's he's always been really like really nervous starts licking his mouth. He just looks like he doesn't want to be there and I was. It was to watch him there in that moment. Actually have those real emotions live in stable center in front of such. A crowd was beautiful moments. I just WanNa shut like Jordan means acknowledging the mean people were excited about that but I it was cool because I think if you ask Kobe. Bryant was the one that you always wanted it was Michael Jordan to actually knowledge that he was his brother in front of. Say That at the moment. Yeah also yeah I agree I WANNA shout out. Murray State for blowing a twenty seven point lead with eleven minutes. Thirty changing the racers mercy blown at twenty seven point lead with eleven minutes to play at Eastern Illinois and Eastern Illinois one regulation. They were down twenty seven with eleven minutes. Left that is not razorbacks. They were also down twenty four less than a down fifteen if I believe three and a half to play. So what is it like it when you need it? Yeah that's all I was saying it was bad. I WANNA shout out our good friend. Robbie Hummel who was inducted into the baseball hall of fame joining legends. Such as my mom Laura Titus he finally he finally got into the hall of fame. I will I want to say this. Now because rob is gonNA come on the show at some point. He's been saying that for three years. I want to say this now so that I know he won't actually here if I say now if I wait till he's here than Alexa here Robbie's awesome. He's a big fan his he he deserves it. He's a great dude. I really really like him. And that's the only nice thing I'll ever say about him because he's not gonNa hear that so there you go. He'll never listen to that. But we should point out that Robbie Hummel was supposed to come on this podcast. I mean I. I've lost chimes in multiple times and he always says I'll I'll do la and he's always says he's always an la he's never around we with the final four. You're on work with him. We do show with him. Live on the air where he has a microphone where he just started. We should just do it this year on the air live thing. We should do the podcast on the air. The best case scenario is that ice cube who hates the FIBA Three whatever they call themselves the three on three people that play in. Fiba the world right. That's Robbi homeless team. He's only he's the captain but it's the quote unquote best player. Ice Cube hates that team. Yeah so I want to see the light that ice cube to come to Atlanta joining us better than anything feeble could ever produce including their best player. Join US onstage. And let's all talk shit on and he'll drink fireball will shoot the fireball will change the three x three you. I also WANNA shout out my dog. Moses alleged famously on Friday made us pick. He picked one gay he. He abstained from the Georgia Tech Game. I believe he did pick the Bryant. Saint Francis Game Brand. He picked Bryant a win tate. Bryant one at Saint Francis they go on an eighteen to five run to win the game. That in of itself is kind of noteworthy but the most important note of this game. Brian has never in the history of the program. They have never wanted Saint Francis. This is a rivalry dating back a hundred years they have. I'm just making it. Oh Okay I was GONNA say. Honestly Congratulate Probably. They probably join conferences. Two years ago. They'd never ever one at Saint Francis and Moses him to win and then they WanNa say Francis so so Moses again something dog I also WanNa shout out. This grandma from we'll miss you see this video. Yes yes yes. And then Who is Jim Cunningham in front of the program? He's in the shooter mcgavin. That's always good. Good good to see that she she yes. She made the ninety four foot. Putt as as the ball was was rolling along. Jay Bilas was walking with someone asking questions. He was walking next to the ball. So you're red or blue. Who which which one is your favorite also shout cash? Kobe white back to back thirty three games. Do I have to say that because there's a lot of people in the NBA that they pick their favorites early on and they don't watch these other guys and they disregard them and they're like your dot com and Mitchell. I don't care you do and I'm not one of those people I'm like. I believe that there was learning curve. I feel like you figure it out Kobe back back thirty three point games. I guy would the bulls do that since Michael Mile final shoutout. Sabrina rescue basketball. Two thousand points one thousand assists one thousand rebounds Sort of a Michael Different ways. It's air last name. Yep Sabrina Iowa sort of a Michael Strahan Brett farve situation with the one thousand rebound that gave her the threshold but she's GonNa get in any way so who cares but those an airball again. I'm not saying I'm not accusing. But my God did that. Stanford girl like. Throw the ball right to her. Right to was way wasn't even close to hitting around. But let's be honest if you're playing for Stanford you know. She's the one rebound away. I'm missing that show. Yeah she competed in my rebounds. That's what I'm saying this picture this give me that Yes yes. This was. All orchestrated along with Archie Miller pointing the clipboard punching the entertainment. This is nothing else. Entertainment speaking of entertainment. You wanted to your James Harden travel rant before we get out of here honestly. I mean girls look. I'm not upset. I'm just saying I'm never in my entire life. Ever been at any sort of basketball place where people are playing basketball playground. Ymca College Highschool anywhere. Elementary school recess. I'm never in my life. Heard anyone be like. Oh that's just the gathers together step. Yeah ever never my wife. Has anyone ever said ever? You might you might. I think nobody can defend you. Could you go? 'cause is a travel and turnover and give us the ball together. Get Out of here so and I say that. Say the is in the rules. The rules were presented to me. Kevin O'Connor friend of ours tweeted out the rules. I looked up the rules and confirmed that he didn't like type of a word. Doc and then put it out. There is actually a gather step in the NBA rule. Book I don't know when they put it in but they should have let everybody know what I was going to get the back story to this which is take take comes in tonight. We're watching the big Monday and comes in the room just hot. He's just absolutely hot. Kfc tweeted the clip of harden the jazz the NBA where yes three step euro step and then. Kfc is is carried water from the as he does come. Defend Yourself Casey. Come on come on the show. And he's saying it's not a traveling. Here's why tape was hot tastes like we we got we got on the show tonight. So Reggie Bush. A football player. Says that's a good Juke? That's a good football move nicer with like come on. Come ON WE'VE BEEN. We've all been taught billion times. You pick the ball when you pick the ball up. If if your foot is on the ground that ever ever taught me about gather step and in fact if I had to gather step I might be playing right. Now catch me. I'll be bouncing all over the place like no way no way no way no way. That's all I have to say about it. It's okay I'm not bad teams are. I'm not mad at anybody. Get your money. Get Your Buckets. Do All that. But we all know that. Whoever wrote that rule in you're done you're done we're done with you. It was like okay for at least two tapes. It might not be a travel. Technically but nuclear changed. The rule change the rule bank because clearly. That's the messed up part. They already change it in Tony Llama basketball game. Aba anything else. That's it all right. We'll be back on Thursday. We are going to if we will be. We'll be in San Diego state tomorrow for today. You're listening to this. It's already Tuesday. If you're hearing this it's too late it's already too. We are going to the Colorado State San Diego State game to to watch stakes clench and undefeated season to either season to save their season. Yeah Yeah I mean if you really think about it. If you're coach you say each game is like its own season trying to so we're gonNA watch them having undefeated season tomorrow and be Colorado State and then Thursday and Saturday. We're going to be in Pauley pavilion. Yes we're going to see the hottest team in the country and let me just say this whenever I watched. Ucla never have. I ever thought best hottest even the well. You're about to Thursday and Saturday. We're going to see only person And we're going to try to sneak into the post game. Press coverage so keeper is what Mick. Cronin'S SAY TO THE HATERS AKA US. But we will see you guys. Friday. Yeah that's it.

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Hour 2: Iggy Or Steph?

First Take

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Hour 2: Iggy Or Steph?

"The first. Last night pulled even. Spicy for Pascall scam. Right now. Yeah, that's ridiculous. That is the wax nickname I've ever heard by C T. This ridiculous. Make no damn sense. I mean about peace pieces little something like this by CP, spicy ping who for the hall of Famer. Isaiah thomas. Call today, spicy t would that be the nickname? That's a terrible nickname is even as what's going on. I'm good. How you doing? Here with us. I'm gonna start with you. I how important was it? Or is it for the warriors to win game three? I think it's very important for them to keep the momentum going because right now you know losing losing game one here game gave Toronto tremendous confidence. Then they come back and they win game two and I always believe that the team that's able to put back to back wins together in a series. That's normally the team that wins. See for me. What I love about this is one. I'm one of those guys I really wish Katie was hit just because I just wanna see, I don't want any Asterix I don't want it issues wanna mismanaged as well. Of course, it will be misread to mention but I guess what I'm saying. I just don't want to use injuries or whatever. But even with that aside saying, assuming K D doesn't come back. Let me tell you something. We don't find out something about Toronto. When you go state wins game three that means they want to straighten gay four is at the oracle on the road that's similar to what transpired is seventy Sixers to a lesser. Cannot transpired against Milwaukee Golden State Warriors and not Philadelphia, seventy Sixers, and they're not the Milwaukee Bucks, you want to really, really find out what your Toronto Raptors are made of let them lose game three and half to find themselves in a situation where they're trying to avoid going down. Three one at the oracle, we'll find out then what they made up their minds to mention but, you know, they, they may, I would say Golden State, they may be due for a stinker at home. Sure. Because, you know they've played so well throughout the playoffs, Houston Portland, then they had to lay off, they may be due for a stinker at home. So Toronto may catch him on the right night in terms of three or four. I think about your pistons team. Yes, you're the you're the MVP caliber player. But you had a crime partner on any given night, who is a reliable all star or else killer, Mark Aguire, Joe Dumars, Vinnie microwave Johnson, right? Who is that guy going to be for Kawai? We saw PASCAL Siachen game one, but he's not at that point yet where he's going to do that every day. Can Kyle Lowry be that guy can vanfleet be that guy who to use see who can step up for co y you, you wanted to be Lowry. I mean he's the guy who has the most experience. He's the guy who's played in head some some, some terrible, you know falls within the play offs. But yet this year, I think he's played pretty well particularly in the Milwaukee series, you want him to be able to get up and be able to do it. He's a guy that I root for I don't know if he can do it. You know, I'm being honest. I don't know if he can do it and not on a road. He's the guy that you're going to have to. I think it needs to be yet that he needs to play Wales. And he needs to score the ball, not at a high clip, but at a crucial clip right van Vliet, max van bleeders shooter in a scorer. Norm Powell is a score. He's an aggressor collar is your lead. He's your playmaker. He somebody that hip rim the shots to run a team. Plus he has his history with this franchise hit. But that's also why cholera last night may have been my biggest disappointment. He came out all tra- aggressive, cholera, not go back. I covered them in high school when he was Philadelphia before he went to Villanova. What is right for the Philadelphia Inquirer, call our not go back a long ways, always at the heart of a lion real guts. I real but I was real disappointed in him last night, because you've been in the league to log, you're too smart to come out so Oltra aggressive and I know they were complaining afterwards about the referees and some of the calls, but Larry put himself in a position to be. Thousand at least three of those foul calls these three. There was two points in that game that I was disappointed in Lowery and also Toronto starter, the third quarter you, you go down on eighteen. Oh run. I mean, you, you have to somehow manufacture get a bucket. Get to the foul line do something. And then at the end of the fourth you, hold Golden State scoreless for four minutes, and you're down six but you continue to come down and take loan contested three point shots. You don't slow the game down. You don't really get into a point where you need to score. And when Golden State was up six and they didn't score for four minutes. The champion in you says, I gotta score. I gotta get to. I gotta get one. I gotta get that this morning was sued in three and that wasn't the thing to keep you. And I have you've scolded me about this. But I do agree that mid range block. You know. Down the block in crucial situations. You just can't overuse it. But in high leverage moments when it gets tight score another way. I totally agree with that. People aren't paying enough attention to that this morning, the eighteen run the twenty four one run. What about the fact the last five minutes of the fourth quarter, the champs didn't score a point, that's until accidentally on a near turnover? Iki got the ball. I mean so defensively Toronto's defense vase stepped up and did what they needed to do the last five minutes of the game offensively. This is when your point guards gathered take control the game. And again, it's always time tempo and score in you gotta understand down six. Don't eat it three. Now. We got we got plenty of time. Okay. Put the ball in Kawais hand Kawais getting to the foul line. He's drawing to he's dishing. He kicked it out a couple of times. They settle for the long three as opposed about it on the flowing into let me tell you why they settle. They settled because when you talk about kuwa- they panic. Right. Kuwa-. Yeah. That's true. But what I'm saying used this. Kowa has the skills strength, etc. Etc. But they doubled him got the ball out of the hands. The. The big he picked, he, he kicked the ball to and got that kind of heart. The other guys kicked the ball to shoot as they ain't going to the whole of leading trying to go to the whole of, you know, empower, even though he could do it ain't really trying to go to the whole, they want to shoot the rock. So to me when you talk about getting to that whole having a willingness to get to the free throw line. You're talking about Siaka of Bacha Gosol, and those guys got a little bit tight, and they gotta get the mindset and you gotta have the mentality that you don't win championships. Take championships. That's how you get. I wanna wanna stop you right there, because people are quick to say other, the Magic Johnson Steph curry, the greatest point guard of all time. And I actually my thoughts often go to you, because I think in the crucible of this level of competition, you find out what's what maybe it's because I cover the fight game for so long. But in US, Aw guy, even if you were hobbled you were clutch when it mattered most Steph curry, is this unbelievable mobile artillery unit. Right at all times, except I saw four twenty to go by against the Cavs game seven at home. Not a point scored and they lost seventy three win team. And last night, I saw Steph. You're the conductor of the greatest half court orchestra of all time. Why in five minutes do I hear no music near turnover winds up in hands accidentally and he hits a shot? Otherwise, maybe you lose that game. Why do you think as someone who's been in that exact position? Steph kick can. Doc, the band for five straight minutes under those circumstances. I think he can. You know, I look at Steph and I say Steph is the leader of the team Draymond in clay in this order, heart and soul letter team in Durant is the best player. And when you really get down to, you know, who's the secretary of defense that's Iggy. I mean, when you want to drop the bomb in this town to push the button, call Iggy because he gonna push the button and drop the bomb the clutch shot last night. All right. The warriors have now won thirty two of their last thirty four when K D is not on the core and Steph curry plays. I can't believe it. Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit how long until it get their loan. Get there. I'll get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button, do what's this button, do what's this? Believe that guy. Go. Good. Save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Really a day to day thing. And it's we had a crystal ball. We would've. Would've known a long time ago over you're dealing with an injury. That's. There's been a lot of gray area literally as just day to day. And how of how the progress is coming. And at this point he's still not ready. Right. It's still has not been cleared for practice. Practice. This city will be coming back here. That's for sure. Still spirited warriors even. The north. That's where that's real nice. Make sure your show up in the second half. Next time. The raptors online was renewed half at the start of the second-half yesterday. I think everybody was in shock. I mean really consensus fans at the start of the second hand wouldn't even stand, and it was probably trying to get that autograph from Obama. Bobby? All right. Guys, let's get into it. So the show by the way, everyone does he does. Wow. Told me that, that great honor. I just watched a great interview with him. And David Letterman that show on Netflix. Check it out. It was great. Okay, I'm gonna stay focus is I'm looking at you because we don't have you the whole time here. Do you think the warriors need, Kevin Durant to win the series and is Kevin Durant coming back? I believe they need him to win the series, particularly now that clay is a little banged up. Also, you see they need parameter scorn. And when they only have Steph and clay, that's not enough. Cousins came in and gave him a big scoring punch. So those ten to fifteen points. They actually need that off the bench. I thought cook came in and did well, but, you know, with the rent, that's just a totally different animals. So they definitely need him out on the floor to win this series in my opinion. I don't believe that I believe that Zeke on a tough that the players of all time to Tom champion. There's wrong on this one. I believe if Klay Thompson, and bogey and ego dollar healthy, they will win the side of what? K- D. In six. Hamstring. Let me let me tell you why I'm not bringing the hamstring into the equation because coming into the series you pick Toronto and six Clayton have a hamstring injury. Can you tell them rooting for Toronto? I got. That's all I'm saying. In other words, we understand that without clay Golden State's toes. We get all the equa- dollar competent we get all that. But I'm saying without K D, if everybody else's, they're picking the war is to win those that he will pick to Rondo and six strictly because the K D And I'm saying that's what the prediction is. That is clay. You're saying what if he's just physically compromised, but he's out there is does that count to, or do you need them? Healthy. You need them healthy Kawais, not healthy brother Kurai is not right. But he's so tough. You knew that coming into the giving thirty four and Zeki has to bully his way to the line. He has to get into the paint because his shot isn't falling because his legs, he shoots line drives. Gets the shooter's because it's not right. Or left. It's true. It's straits. He usually gets shoot about he's not getting that because he's got no legs right now. And yet he's willing his team to a game one victory. He had a lot to do with it. I know Siachen was the best player and he kept them in the game. Right. Till the last possession, then game six against Milwaukee that didn't stop them. I'm saying at a certain point, though, it's going to he's, he's got he's doing all he can do. He's got somebody else got to step up. We talked about Lowry. We talked about the Saul who had twenty in the first game second gain. Not so good right offensively. They gotta be to step up and they gotta step up in the crucial times of the game. Not when everybody's cheering not when it's all going good. But when it's going bad, you need someone other than Kawai to make shot for you agree to the foul line. All the fans leave to go get the Bracco bomb. Autograph? That's right. What we assume it was probably out. They get some hotdog stuff like that, too. Not bring you some sushi courtside or something. Right. I mean, it's not the same kind of party. Hey, third quarter for Golden State. I want to know what you in the locker room. Well, it's the second second right at the Datino run. It's almost. Toronto has outscored the war is in the first second fourth quarter two series, the warriors, plus sixteen against them in the third quarter. That's what everybody they do. Every they kill everybody in coaches quarter, the third quarter, the coaches quarters as the coaches quarter, but it's consistently. They come out with a different kind of bounce different kinds of energy. To her credit for that as the coach of the team, we looked at quarter after halftime. What adjustments are made seems like you should get some credit for that. Okay. They get credit for. But at the end of the day, right? Draymond clay staff. All of them. They come out with a different energy a difference way. For you guys in the bad. Boy, pistons, did you sometimes sit there after a rough I like let's stop playing games. It just go get this. Like, how does that work? Now, we always knew that we had a run in us. Right. And we always knew that okay, we'll stay close. And then in five minutes, we'll take a five minutes Burton saying. All right. Let's turn it on video, and we'd had conversations, but it seems consistently with Golden State. It is the start of the third quarter. I mean it it's like it's like a Broadway play. They do they think first second quarter, and then the third quarter they go in and, you know the phantom opera comes out at dawn, I mean, they do they think and it's consistent. You think that's more mental or you think it's more adjustments that they're actually making? I would say that it's jesmyn, but I think it's more mental because it's too consistent for them to, to reform on this way for that to. Well, you have to give the players credit who in particular, do you think it's Draymond? Or do you think it staff? I think it's I think it's a collective think it's a collective thing where I really, it's a different energy to different switch. It's a different swag, compass. Listen, listen. This is not complicated y'all where you can make shots, you can scare the living hell out of people think of. I want you to watch sometimes when clay went went clay or Steph open. You usually see people lunging out at others takes shots, when no dude got us. A little bit of base. And they literally the day this is what they do. Because they're more C'mon and the difference, you can listen Toronto heart things scared. They got skills, but they can't score like that. We're Mark these causing Hiddick shot you like this, Dan. Do I will give you the exact feeling because they got they got three guys like that in terms of Steph Klay into rant right when we were playing against Boston. They only had one guy every bird when he got the ball you was like damn. He got the ball. That's right. And the other guy when we played against Chicago when Jordan got the basketball, you would like Tam called it. Not not that getting ready to shoot. He caught it. He got you do you will look over there, and you'll be like I take back. I'll take a ball taking back anymore. But you may not remember this is college, right? This is in the nineties. I never forget, as long as I look because one of my favorite old Tom college moments. Kenny Anderson, folks, may not remember that name playing at Georgia Tech, he came down on the great Bobby Hurley to Tom national champion body early. And literally, it was a one on one and Kenny K and day. It's behind the vet crossover put it behind his back them shimmy, and then dipped it and Bobby Hurley literally ran to coach K, practically cry. I think about that moment because when I see guys at today's NBA and what they can do, because they ability to make shots is that Kana heart that they take from. That's what I'm talking about. Stereotypically weinhardt somewhere else. It's got to be a yes or no. Are we gonna see Kevin Durant? Yes. Okay. I like it. One game doesn't define a series they got rings. They can be confident I four not, first of all. Lucky? This series is. Murphy here with your sports center right now. So the warriors trailed by double digits early had one made shot, you'll go or free throw in the last five thirty nine and they won. But that one made shot was three point dagger yet another clutch moment from Andrea della. Yeah, he'd missed thirteen his last fourteen from deep but Steph curry still thinks forgetting about Dray was a bad idea. Of course, the game disrespect for Levi's it would open like that with the game on. He's made big shots like that before and. Got it done. Tonight. We weren't disrespected anybody. We were up garden, heart, and we put two on staff, and we hell he threw it almost right to Kawai, right? Pretty good defense. They were scrambling around running around, like crazy, but. And they found a right? They found him, I'd like to go back and try that, again, about ten times, and one of them, doesn't go away. That's it for your sports center right now. Let's send you back to I take at the finals. Look at that. You're ask park fans are out there. Good morning, everybody afternoon for some at this point. Welcome back into I take care at Scotiabank arena. Mr. wanna remind. Just one of remind into national audience that you have people out there because we were supposed to be outside in Jurassic Park. It was so hype that was going to be so many people out there that cop said, they didn't think it would be safe, so they made us come back. And we go outside. I have to talk to the, the mayor and some put us outside talked to some people to work with concerned with other they could do it. They never thought of whether they should see y'all think I'm joking on. I'm trying to make I'm trying to speak to some elected officials. The people in power to make to make a hap- if a game up, I'm trying to be outside. I plan on having a Cup. I think you should go one hundred percent. Yeah. I'm with you. We should be with the people to be off with the people to rot. So let's stay focused now. Good in the studio. Into analytics is. Olympic. These two eighty had only twenty four percent chance of making that three point basket, yet he delivered max with the game on the line one shot. Who would you rather have taking Iggy or curry of everyone on Golden State, open shot fate of the universe on the line, or the martians? Have the death beam pointed at earth? You better hit it. I want Igwe Dala. That's right. And I know what that sounds like Ed. It's not fair to Steph because so much defensive attention is paid to him. And I'm not saying steps not a better shooter. He's a way better shooter dollars ice water in his veins Igwe dollars, that type of player, let me give you some examples. I'll take some baseball examples a rod was an MVP hit fifty home runs. Isn't that ask any Yankees fan from, you know, ten fifteen twenty years ago, would you rather have bases-loaded World Series? You need a run Luis Sojo the middle infielder up or a rod hardcore Yankee sense, to tell you Louis SoHo because when under pressure, it was something about that, dude. That was cool and something about a rod that wasn't. I mean that's what it is Curry's. The greatest shooter of all time, on till it matters most, I've seen let me tell you something, something. My dad used to tell me about Billy Martin and. And big fan of yours, by the way here. He's a big fan. Know he's mad at you right now. Billy Martin manager for the play second base for the championship teams used to go one for four in the regular season. Two fifty average lifetime one for three in the postseason three thirty three in the postseason. Not a power hitter used to say whatever it was one for four one for three my one hit would kill you. Mark Jackson was here saying he's like good for great defense and eleven points every single one of eleven points will kill you high leverage moment, fate of the universe on the line want open shot not go get it. I want it would Dala taking that shot for me. My money is on them thirty Steph curry opus faded a universe online. Give me a third. I'm going with number thirty every single time I bought a hot water. No water warm water in the desert. If it's a opus shot, give me number thirty to take the open shot to make it and win it. Well, see the problem that I have with journalists. Isaiah thomas. The fact that you have a smaller your face while doing it like it's funny to entertain this nonsensical take by my partner here, max Kellerman. This is a guy that religiously leads on numbers and numbers show that Steph curry is arguably the greatest shooter we have ever seen in our lives. But max Kellerman wants to ignore those numbers when it comes to an Andre equal dollar. There is no doubt. He's an MBA people reads it. He makes a matter of fact to give credit. I've lied. Don't equal dollars a big reason as to why I've got them winning this series. But why why because he's gonna be left open. Why is he left open because curry teammate? That's why what did Nick nurse say in the post game conference. We doubled Steph. That's what he said. In other words, we'll conc- we'll leave anybody open anything, but allow him to have the ball eagle Dala when he was MVP. He was wide open Cleveland left wide open because they had to concede somebody at the shoot the ball and they want clay, and they want step to shoot. Steph curry is so great as a shooter, they would rather mug ham. At least somebody else wide open then man up against him at the risk of somebody else taking. It's not. All right. Hong backs. I cannot miss, too. I can't do any of that. Let me ask you let me, let me say this. Livingston made the play to the ball to prevent steel. But the second part of that was he looked at Steph and everybody went to Steph so he made the no look in hit Iggy. That's what gave Iggy tan the most important part of the play. Let if you go back, and you look at the film Livingston gap, the basketball, okay? You gotta win it back a little bit more. Gotta run the point back more. What's it? Look, you see. That's what gave him the time. It was the most important part of the play was the look of which gave Iggy another second. And you hurting their gear ready does not get hurt. Nick ner saying, like this is our defensive strategy like it's not disrespected Igwe dollar. I'm not denying any of this. But would you concede this was Robert ory the best three point shooter in the league? No. No. With the money on the line, who you want taking them out. Tom out money on the line shooter, his what you're missing. Here's what you're missing Robert ory without those clutch moments that you're talking about without clutch moments with a better shoot at any dollar. Yes. So, in other words, what I'm trying to say to you. He was the threat at any point in a game Egwa dollar as the pressure mounts. He rises to the occasion, but he's not a shooter. Robert ory was always shooter for a big guy. He was always the big Hugh. Hugh. But he later but a lot like Iggy and he had or had. He was a defensive player who shot under pressure. Let me give you the huddle. Let me give you the huddle if you sit in that huddle and Steve Kerr designs, the last shot, but Iggy and don't go to Klay in Steph Iki goes say, no, no, no, no. I don't want that Robert Horry goes say, no, no. I don't want this shot. They get those shots out of because a clay because a Steph because the lies Awan because shack, then ain't no pressure. Right. So missed the shot long rebound to Iggy. And he wins the game. And then what you're saying when you sitting there, and that coaches calling your number you hear it loud, in the Rena, I gotta make this shop the pressures on me. Everybody else. The other pivotal point to bring up is this with a lodge was shack, and all of those guys you're looking for something on the interior. In the case of Steph curry, Klay Thompson, you are looking for something on the perimeter and equal Dala wooded death think he should be. Steph curry any Cirque of ten shit. Alex Louise SoHo for Alex Rodriguez with the bases loaded either no manager would do that, about example, ho came up the Yankees fans that have been happy. There are some dudes this what we're arguing about. We're all conceding Iggy is clutch, right? But you're saying, but it's kind of accident, he'll get the accident. They do. You're happy. You're analogy using it, as a bad one, because guess what? Steph curry is covered doing anything that can keep the ball out of Alex Rodriguez gets the chance to come up the back. He gets the back cover. They like you get the ball. We will mug you before we let you get the ball, the difference. I guarantee you all these fans sitting behind that sin behind us tonight. I mean it's in behind us. When Iggy get the basketball they were happy. It wasn't still. Let me tell you anywhere. Happy. Dictate predicted would win. When I saw the ball in his hands. I thought that's it. They're going to get the split. I knew he was gonna hit that knew he was gonna hit it. However you didn't you didn't move Steph to shoot it alone rather, have you taken that shot going step to take. I understand I want Iggy to take it. Thank you. So let your being with us. Appreciate you. Defined. Toronto's shit Bank arena, where it all went down last night. Colli in the raptors could not get it done. Rafters chant. Everybody Stephen, I want to start with you here DeMarcus cousins got start last night. Certainly paid off eleven points, ten rebounds, six assists, and just twenty eight minutes of play. Tell me this will this decision to start cousins be the turning point in this series, Podvig will be. But it's not because of starting whatever it's the mount of minutes that he played and what he was able to do when he did play. The fact is that he was exceptional in the second half last night. He took over point bullet rolls from Draymond green. That's number one of because of the assistant he was recording. He was grabbing key rebound. Because at one point Toronto seeing the beginning every offensive rebound or whatever. And you just said, all right? Somebody's got to help them out on the board. He came in and offset that more importantly, his defense on pick and roll situations by the Toronto Raptors you didn't expect him to be able to move so well, but he did his defense was definitely up there and last, but not least it served to neutralize soul. And the Bacher those guys will pivotal and game. Even though Siachen went off the soul did have twenty points in game one he vodka did make a contribution as well. And when you look at markets, 'cause it's in the post all of a sudden they were limited to one shots, all of a sudden the path to the lane wasn't as easy as it had been with the undersized Kvant looney knows boys. You can't say enough about the job to markets cousins did in game two last night. I thought he was the MVP the game because of the way that he played in the second half. And I gotta give love to Quinn cook as well. With those two big three's, of course. Equal dollar hit a couple of big three's in the second half. But the Marcus cousins to me, was the key X factor in all of this. I cannot say enough about how he played yesterday. I would say this is the boogie cousins game, maybe along honorable mention Dala because would not only hit the, the nail in the coffin, but also played excellent defense when it looked like out anymore. If you play the series after injury it may wind up being the difference in this series starting boogie. Because if you recall game. One boogies passing. And he's a brilliant passer. He plays the right way. It was almost overdone like they were passing up. Good shots for bit. No, not for better shots for no shots. They were overdoing it. But after a guy's been out for a while he needs game or usually a couple of to get his rhythm to get be integrated into the team in bookies cases basketball IQ is so high took him one game by game to as even said he's running point forward. He was the Draymond green on both ends of the floor. Like, who would think that boogie could be dream on both ends of the floor? But he was the question is can he do this consistently after sitting for so long after being hurt for Sola members coming off catastrophic injury and then got hurt and that hasn't been playing so like for him to do it? One game is all well and good. Can he continue to do this coming off of all that? Yeah. That could decide the series I think so definitely could decide series because you're going to need something from Zola Bacher. You gotta remember, you know, when you look at them with how boogie because and by the way. For the not forget to give Andrew bogut props. He only played about six or seven minutes, but hit all three of his shots hit all three of his shots. And spelled four boogie cousins, so to give, because once a looney went down with the collarbone injury, courtesy of koala colliding into while driving to the basket. He certainly had to leave the game. He didn't come back. So it was about bogut. It was about the markets because and you didn't anticipate in a series like this to Golden State would be able to do that. But having a big body that you could put in the post area, whose girth and mass not to mention skill with something so formidable that Toronto would have to deal with suddenly assault. Baca seemed ill equipped to do. Also consider the starting five, they're all like, oh, my God with K D, right? But now just swap K D out for boogie cousins, if Claes healthy, you still have Steph clay, Iggy dream on boogie cousins, like can't do much. Let's look at the skill set, but I'm gonna tell you what. I, I don't think it was so. So much. Just cousin skills, it I thought it was time he played twenty seven minutes. Thirty eight seconds. You could not have planned for that. If you're Nick nurse because he was gone for fourteen games straight in the postseason. He comes back and game one only place. Eight minutes who would've thought that suddenly he starting the next game? And not only is he starting, but he's going to give us twenty eight minutes. Nobody with that so important for him going into a contract. You're by the way, we always anyone with eyes, new boogie cousins was a devastating talent. Right. You could see that not the most athletic do. But his skills were unmatched his size. He was great. The question is could he use them in service of a winner of champion? And last night, what he showed was. Yeah. He was the best player on the floor on a championship team in a pivotal game. And that really is answering critics who had questions, not even answers just questions. Can he do it? The answer last night was the curry Andrey. Mom being a plush toy. Twelve on the floor last night, and Marcus all in thirty one minutes in thirty one minutes at six points, and Bhakkar in seventeen sixteen plus minutes had seven maxim, ask you this who's the MVP so far on the warriors who. I mean yesterday it was boogie cousins and they lost the game before. So can you say boogie can you? I mean, maybe Igwe dollar because he's played both gaming. This last game was hurt. Let me tell you this for me dream on Raimo. I think dream on has been consistent last night. He has seventeen ten and nine similar numbers did a triple double twice in Western Conference finals, obviously damn they had a triple double in both games this series. This dude is playing lights out. The guy is a point four it. He's running off half the time he's defending he's rebounded. He's assisting a couple of sloppy turnovers along the way. But for the most. Right. Not only that his speed and quickness, because he lost twenty three pounds. They can't win. He's got the ball near the top of the key. He's blowing by some of their bigs. They don't wanna come out and get them, but they have no choice because even though he's not. Threat to launch a perimeter shot. He's finding the Oprah perimeter shooters better than anybody. No argument that is the right answer. It's dream on. And consider this. I thought he was the MVP of the Portland series. He dominated the offensive glass. He was great. And now in this series, so far he's probably the MVP of the warriors, consider had it not been for the Cavs winning game seven at oracle dream on would have been the MVP of those finals. That dude is historically. Great. Clutch onto Steph curry had never wanna finals. VP K D one to Iggy. One, one. Thank you so much for coming out to things that, what should the rafters feel Anchorage or dick at this point in the series, the raptors should be encouraged think of these facts, Kawai, shots, not falling? No teammates stepped up. The warriors went on twenty four one run to start the third it was a one possession game at the end of the warriors got lucky that Steph didn't turn it over. Maybe the wrapping all those things to get out of here by the skin of their teeth one one provided, oh, the raptors should be Inger, right? Yeah, that's funny. That's really funny. You know about a blonde y'all should be encouraged because Klay Thompson might not be held. That's about it. As long as Klay Thompson shows up and boogie cousins shows up and Andre Igwe dollar shows up, y'all will be down to one come Wednesday night. What about? What about? Coming back to Toronto to to coming back to Toronto calling it right now. To me. After game three. Let me see how healthy a off. Golden State is healthy.

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Ep. 90 - DUKE Head Coach: Mike Krzyzewski

The Sidelines with Evan Daniel

21:32 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 90 - DUKE Head Coach: Mike Krzyzewski

"Coaches national champions lottery picks the best minds in basketball. What is Senator sidelines with every what is up college basketball fans? Welcome back to the sidelines podcast. I'm your host Evan Daniels. College basketball insider at F S one as well as the director of basketball recruiting at twenty four seven sports today's episode. We have a very special guest a five-time NCWA champion. It's one multiple Olympic gold medals. Of course, I'm referring to Duke head basketball coach, Mike sure, chef ski we had a twenty minute conversation that touched on in-depth on Zion. Williamson the competitiveness of RJ Barrett. Plus coach K gives his take on the revamped recruiting schedule before we get to that conversation. Wanna make sure that you are subscribed and supporting the sidelines podcast the best way to do that as shoot over to apple podcasts and or your favorite podcast app. Hit the subscribe button for me leave a rating leave a review, you can also shoot me a note over on Twitter or Instagram. The handle is at Evan Daniels. Would love to know what you think about the podcasts. Now, let's. To that conversation with hall of fame basketball, coach Maestra Shatskikh. It's time to go with Evan Daniels. Send it in big fella now. Let's welcome in five time in CWA champion and hall of fame basketball, coach dukes, Mike sure, chef ski to the sidelines podcast. Coach welcome back to the show. How were your holidays? Good. Yeah. We've had this big break because of having DC we got our by the first week. So what turns out to be usually eight or nine daybreak is a fourteen daybreak. And so we're trying to get back into shape. But family wise, terrific, I have all ten of my grandchildren right here. So we yeah. If you don't have a good holidays with them, many, grandchildren and some. No question that sounds awesome. Coach let's talk about this team. You know outside looking in. You seem to be having a ton of fun with this current group. Well, dare easy to like, you know, because they like one another day, we pretend to like us, and you know, so every day is like you enjoy being with one another, and they're willing workers, very unselfish kids, and and going, and you know, they have great chemistry there all secure kids. And they've been a pleasure to work with you recruited, your fair share of talents over the years. But this year, you could make a case that you have the best two players in all of college basketball. Have you ever been able to say that before why I'm not saying it right now because I haven't seen everybody in college basketball. But I do know I have some really good players to cool thing about it is that they're players. They're not positions. And so they mash real well. And that they can make each other better. And it's ironic that it's not common to have two kids of that ability be like brothers and RJ Inci and are like that. It's kind of amazing and it sets the tone for the rest of the team along with the relationship that Cameron reddish and trae Jones have where they're white brothers Wata. Good stuff. Really? And and I think they like growing up as players together that they know how they can make each other better. Did those guys have those type of relationships before they got on campus or just did it escalate once they got into practice. So. Yeah, you know, I don't think anyone can have as deep relationship until you are actually with one another on a day to day basis, but trae Cam had outstanding relationship before r j along with those two guys once he committed and then Cy and a really good thing. Thing that were you know, we try to do if kids commit early is have them get on a group chat. And we're again, we're not on it. You know, where they get to know one another throughout the the remainder of their seniors in high school. And so that one day come on campus, there's a real familiarity there. And so I think that was enhanced by doing that. And then once they got here at the Canadian trip helped to in that tray and Cam or gone, we're not allowed in injury wise to play and so- science and RJ each scored about thirty points a apiece, but they I think they got to see how their games could work together right hand. I think that helped to let's talk about Zion for a second. He's been. Mendes this year. And quite frankly, coach, I didn't think that he would be this good how Xilin different than maybe you expected. And did you think that he was going to be able to come out and play the way he has to this level? Well, he's better than I thought he would be in a big part of it is he you don't know you can think that a kid is a great kid, and you hope that he's a good worker. You can see the talent. But then when you have them into holy macro. This guy is an amazing kid. He's upbeat all the time. And he's been a great worker. And I don't think you could see that in a you because he or in highschool because he the competition level, and he didn't really have to run the core at all the time, and he doesn't like to single and self out. So he got his teammates involved more, you know, and he's been a great worker of. And he he's everyone say some as dunker and how hike and jump, but he's an incredible athlete in lateral quickness. You know, his feet great hands. Ability to second jump and move from side to side. I didn't know all those things. Yeah. I knew he could really jump right? And you know, that he was going to be really good. But he's he's better. There's no question about he's I think by not positioning him like we don't have a position for him in this that. Yeah. You know, it doesn't put a cap on what he can do. He I think he's the most unique prospect that I've ever scouted. What what was kind of your? I like. Wow moment with him. Well, I just that guy. That would look like that could jump that high. You know, like how does he do that? And I've had a number of wow, moments coaching them. Because again, I can't over emphasize his or quickness, and he has hang time, you know, not just because he's up that high. But he he can maneuver is body. Really? Well, I know in our last game against Texas Tech. You know, you got to. Of charges, including his fifth foul, but people. Yeah. I would hope they weren't how to officiate him. You know, because you know, when he makes a spin in full court like that a kid can't take charge unless it's a secondary defender because it's so unique move like you only gifted right athlete could could make it at that level. Yeah. He has a number of wow moments. You you've obviously coach some ridiculous athletes both at Duke and with the Olympic team. How does he compare athletically to to some of those guys you coach on that limping team LeBron and Kobe not saying he's those players, but just from a leaping athleticism body controlled that type of standpoint. No, he's right with all those guys now thing those guys developed it, you know, those guys are disciplined where every day they know they have a gift, and they don't take it for granted in its people would be amazed at the war. That all those guys were there'd be were Bronco bay Durant. All these guys put in to enhance what God has given them. And you know, Zion still need. I'm not saying he won't do that. And he's doing it at our level. Once he gets to the next level. He, you know, for him to reach the level that those guys have reached he'll have to win that maybe committed to that level of of preparation, and I'm not saying he won't do it. I think he will do it. But he will have to were these guys ready. Already. They they've already done it and shown the the benefits of doing that RJ Barrett's averaging nearly twenty four point seven rebounds a game statistically, no freshman has ever been given the green light in your system. Like RJ beer at has averaged over nineteen field goals attempts to gain for comparison say coach JJ Rettig his second attempts at just under eighteen what made you so comfortable and just letting him go. Well, he, you know, he so unique player, and he's a gifted athlete. Sign wasn't on a team. You be doing I still do wiles. With some of the things he goes too. He's really a complete basketball player. He can really play. He's not gonna play center, but he could play anywhere on the court and guard anyone and he's way ahead in sureties because he mom Ferdie played for great coach and Kevin Boyle. He played for the Canadian team. And you know, he's played up. His whole life. And so he's a head in that regard. He's been terrific to coach. You know? I think he has a real good intellect for the game. One of the reasons he gets a lot of you know, we we play as uptempo as anybody right now. And so, you know, we want a lot of shot attempts. And and he's able to manufacture things better because of his ability to penetrate than anyone on our team. So he's gonna get more. And when he gets there to make the decision of shot pass, jump, stop, whatever, you know, that that's something that will continue to grow for him. You mentioned kind of freedom. And that's one thing I've noticed not only with this group. But but others you've had as you give you guys a lot of freedom on the court, especially considering how young not only this team is. But some of your other reason teams how did you get so comfortable with giving them that time? Of freedom. Well, I have whether it's Johnny Dawkins and Mark Owlry. Early or how late in her plate or Hurley or Rettig and Batty. A and those guys you have to wear talents. Do things that talent can do and you can really over coach talent and limit it. And there's a creativity that these kids have that you would hope if you can get to that long with what you do in an organized fashion that combination will create some special basketball. Yeah. I can remember coaching Grant Hill, you know, who's as good as anybody that's ever played here. And I would tell them at different like a time out. So for next four minutes just. Every time you touch the ball, do whatever you feel you can do. So what do you mean? I it just do something. Where once you do at someone will say, I didn't think coach K could teach him that. And be right. And they would be right right there. Certain things you can't teach that level of talent you have to give it an environment in an atmosphere and the freedom to do it. And the thing that you monitor is shot selection. So when they're doing it. It's a good shot. Yeah. It's not, you know, something, you know, while obviously you've given RJ that type of freedom, and this is a relentless competitor. Coach just from scouting him in high school. I mean, he plays not only on offense. I don't know that he gets enough credit for now. He's a heck of a defender. And we put him we put trae on a ball in R J on whoever isn't the best player. And sometimes the best players the guy with the ball. And Trey what happen but the best score are chase gonna get them. And I know we we be Princeton pretty good. But their kid candidy is really the best three point shooter. In the Ivy league really good player, and again, people would say, well, you should beat them. But well, they'd beat Arizona state to and he had twenty one against him. And it was hard for him to get his shot off against our chase. So RJ place a complete game. No question about you mentioned trae Jones, and I felt like he's really starting to come on. And it seems like he's had his best games in euros. Biggest games? I it must just be Jones, gene. Right. Well, I think he does more in the big games in and not that every game is not a big game. But some have been, you know, pretty big margin of victory and in that when he has that he he didn't shoot the ball. Yeah. And he still has to shoot the ball because like against Texas Tech. His scoring was critical us winning the basketball game. And when we played in wausau against guns aga- in a really big time game. It was trade that turned the thing around. And and you know, we want him to do them. We're actually we're we continue to adapt our offense. And that is we see these kids grow. And so there are a couple of things we're trying to do with trae to make him even more offense oriented for us. This group seems like they jailed so quickly which I think is really rare for a freshman center team. I guess how difficult is it? One to put together a new roster like this every year with so many fresh to rely on so many freshmen in to to get that roster to mold and jail. The way you want it to the seems like this group has done that early. Obviously, they're not where you want to. Well, they they get along. The main thing is developing team chemistry, and that with this group is really good. And hopefully, we can take it to an extraordinary level. You know, every coach has difficult things to do. And so for me, I don't look at it. As like, boy, this is going to be a problem. This is an opportunity, and we get a different opportunity every year because of the influx of talent. And so far the guys who've been successful and going early in the NBA to the NBA. And so I like it. I mean, I like. I like to coach first of all and I like to coach talent. And I liked coach kids that want to be really good. And so as long as I have that then we need to put in the system. And if it's them not a system that I just have and I tried to have them fit into it. And. Yeah. I I've tried to do that pretty much my whole career, and I've really done it even more in the last decade with our teams. But also when I had the honor to coach the US team you have to do that. With all all five of the championship teams. We have coach I want to shift gears a little I wrote a column last week and shared a pretty strong opinion on the revamped recruiting schedule that the commission on college basketball came up with the changes include just one eighty you evaluation period in July and the other two are being replaced with regional camps and to high school weekends in June. That a lot of players won't actually be able to participate in. I'm curious your thoughts on it. You know, it's one of the things I'm gonna just see. What happens? I thought that they went to quickly to change the knee jerk reaction about a you in. And like that was the only that's the thing that's wrong with basketball. And and I that's not my belief, and there's always something wrong with something. And but the the opportunity for kids to be seen by the three hundred fifty three division. One. College coaching staffs should not be messed with like their thousands of kids out there who want to be seen, and we should look at we can work with the elite players, obviously and give them USA or whatever the heck you're gonna give but eighty you gave all these kids and opportunity to be seen, and I worry about that as soon as it came out. And they talked about June. And I don't know exactly how I think it's eliminated certain groups certain schools that can't put them on. And I'm just saying like, what are we doing? You know, what we did June thing does doesn't seem right? You know in what we're what we're doing? And I it's almost like. Instead of having a m b we had to put c and d and there as far. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, and you know, I'd rather. And so would I s the army coach go to an a weekend to go someplace where I can see if I'm the army coach or many of the mid major will major division ones. They wanna see a lot of kids they'll sit in the gym or gyms all day. And and and that's what they do. And they we should give them the opportunity to that one kid and the exorb- Jim at eight PM on Saturday night that you know, you see say I've loved that kid, and we don't have to do that at our level. But hundreds of coaching staffs have to do that. And I think we're robbing the opportunity for those kids to be seen and the staff's the Sam, and I I I don't think that that's good. No. I completely agree with you. It's your seemed like change for the sake of change. Not yet, the betterment in my in my opinion last question for you coach before I let you go on this is completely off topic. But at this stage in your career, you have a long list of former players who are now head coaches. How important is your coaching tree to you in terms of your legacy? And who of you particularly been impressed with and proud of you know, it's not just DiPoto ching trait. Work Quin Snyder, Tommy Tucker, Johnny Dawkins. Whoa. Joe, Chris, you know, all these guys are all over the place and doing while Bobby Hurley who didn't coach here, but played here. I'm really proud of them. But also proud of the guys that got into management in the NBA who are working as a system or or managers who are video coordinators. Are we have a lot of people in in basketball? And I love the. Fact that while they were here, they weren't to love the game more, and they chose it as a profession, and I'm very proud of that. I'm also proud of the fact that my former players bond together, you know, it's my thirty ninth year. So I have a lot of former players, but we do a bunch of things to make sure that they interact and they're the ones who formed this what they call a brotherhood. And and it is it is and I'm proud of that. And I love the guy I I've had great guys here too. And I've had great guys that army and to maintain those relationships of and his. Is very important to me and my family and my family. I'm sure it's pretty rewarding coach I really appreciate your time. And thank you for jumping on the show. Thanks. This is coach K and you're listening to the sidelines with Evan bangles. Like once again, thank Duke head basketball coach, Mike sure Shatskikh for taking the time out in job on the sidelines podcast enjoyed that conversation before let you guys go want to make sure that you were supporting the sidelines podcast. And as I mentioned in the open the best way to do that is to go over to apple podcasts and all your favorite podcast app. Hits us. Subscribe button for me leave a rating leave a review, you can also shoot me a note over on Twitter Instagram, the handle is at Evan Daniels. Would love to know who might be a great guest. 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Podcast (04/09/19)

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Podcast (04/09/19)

"This is Seth Payne. I played a long time in the NFL. And now, I talk about it three times a week on the deceptively fast podcast. I bring you the biggest football stories in a light hearted, but in-depth manner, but also the world of health and fitness and a bunch of interviews with successful people from all walks of life. You're going to hear from current players and coaches as well as my former teammates and experts from the national media subscribed today. It's the deceptively fast podcast on radio dot com. Why investors Bank studio Bora size at Brexit Audi boomer and geo on the fan simulcasts across the country on CBS sports that work go Tuesday morning. A great national championship game in college basketball last night with Virginia. Completing these story line of getting knocked out by a sixteen seed in coming back the next year and winning the national championship. It takes over time. It takes a little bit more controversy with a replay. It takes being down three when fifteen seconds to go and another big shot. And it takes a lot of luck to get there. And they got it throughout the tournament. But a lot of great players. Well, so Virginia getting it done. And also the Yankees with a really bad day all around yesterday, Severino not feeling right? Another MRI and a game. They never should've lost to the Astros yesterday off. Three one with Tanaka cruising. They go to the bullpen Zach Britton. Does it get it done? And then not to beat on can't keep the game tied. Good morning, boomer. Our y'all doing great jail. Unfortunately for you. And I that gang goes adult time that I was thinking about you. And I was like all my God was going to be picked. He's not gonna be getting any sleep. And so I felt the same way about myself because obviously it was a great end of that regular, you know, the regular time game, you know. So it was it just goes in overtime and everything else. And now a couple of things that I'd together game is night. If anybody really cares. But one of the things that I hated was the replay on the on the ball that won't office supposedly Moretti's pinky. All it did I mostly day supposedly it did. And Jean Saratoga was trying to explain to gymnasts that you know, it has to be definitive. And I'm like, I still haven't seen it really definitive look at it. And then as now we're into like, how do we each like see the replay? And I and that and that play like ten years ago is never replayed. Oh, no way. Two years ago never replayed. It. It's just it's it's easy to understand that that boggles off Virginia player. He's the he's the one that knocks it out of bounds. And and quite frankly, they probably could have called a a foul, but they didn't and guy. And I appreciate that. They didn't do that. They let the kids play. But at the end of the day, I'm thinking to myself this thing that's going to ruin this game. It's going to be the stupid replay. They're going to overturn a play where kids pinky is hit the ball. And I guess if you really wanna be hard core about it. Okay. And went off him according to the officials, but I don't know just one of those places where I just felt like it just took the entire kind of excitement out of the game. Like it gave the ball back to Virginia. And then they and then they go down, and quite frankly, Andre hunter is a stud that kid is just awesome. He had to utes threes. One at the end of regulation to tie the game. And then he hit another one in overtime. That was just an awesome shot from the right side. And they met Mooney protects us tech. He has great took them a while to get going. But he was sitting big shot after big shot late in the game. Don't you feel like, you know, instead of giving it to Jarrod Culver who was I think five of twenty two for the game. I mean Mooney was the guy that was making all the place. Now, he also took a three point shot from seem like from Mars, which offer overtime what you probably shouldn't have done. And they also kept trying to force collar vers hand. And he just wasn't having a great game. Now, he wasn't and that was really disappointing for him. And there's no doubt about it that, you know, de'andre haunting you wanna talk about the NBA guys. The entree is going to look back at this game and say, I did everything I could to win the championship. And and Culver is going to say, wow, you know, I had more opportunities here, and I didn't get it done. And as far as the replay goes this reminded me of reminded me of in baseball when you guys will slide into a bag, and then his foot will come off for like a Bill in the gloves on it. And he's cold out. And you're thinking, well, this is what replays for I clearly safe. And now we're basically splitting hairs a forensic team comes in and decided, but also. If you're going to replace something like that you're going to look at it. You can only judge what you see and come back with that. Call and that's what they saw. They said that it went off his hand. I mean, I I don't know what you make the decision to look at that frame by frame. You can't come back. It'd be like well the spirit of replayed. So you to call the ball out. And let's just let's just leave. You know, it as as the replay shows you I for me, maybe they were looking at a different angle or something. I don't necessarily know that I saw a definitive evidence as Jean star or kept telling gymnasts than than I did. I well, it is what it is at the end of the day. It was a great game up until that point. And that's where the game kind of got away from Texas Tech. And and quite frankly, the kid that I was really really really impressed with was the kid tie Jerome shell. I own a prep kid. Yeah. And I'll tell you what that kid he made so many really good passes. So many good decisions. Forced the issue when Virginia needed the. Issue to be forced on offense. I just thought it was everything that we thought the game was going to be. And then all of a sudden that replay kind of just I don't know just kind of took Texas Tech out of the game. I felt and from that point on Virginia, basically showed their championship chops. And that was a really gritty game by all those kids. And unfortunately for Trico, I don't think he was one hundred percent. No. And you know, he ends up fouling out. And that's a you know, he just never really got involved defensively like he had been for so many games. And he was one of the key defenders of the remedy against the team, Mike Virginia who does what they do when they drive to the paint. He would be a great guy when he's one hundred percent to be in the middle there and to kind of some of those shots. But I I don't know. It was just it was a great great game. And then all of a sudden that replay happened and kinda just like the the excitement out of the game. That's all. Well, I think especially after you feel how Virginia got there too. I mean, I think that that was still hanging over it with. The whole double dribble thing. And there were some people. We did not agree with the people who said that wasn't a foul on guide to send them to the line for the three shots in the game against Auburn. But that definitely was a foul. So I think that was sort of a cloud that was hanging over it. I also think the Texas Tech in the biggest moments defensively came up short. If you think about that possession that led to the hunter three to tie the game in regulation. I if you go back and watch that and we did before the show guys standing around confused not close out on that. Not sure exactly where they were going. And then in overtime, here's Virginia who yes, this is one of the best Virginia. Tony Bennett offensive teams. We've ever seen for sure and they win a national championship. But it's scored seventeen points at overtime against Texas Tech, which is a lot in five minutes a bunch of those were free throws where they made their free throws. As a matter of fact, Virginia is twenty two twenty three on free throw threes rose. And really you could say thirteen and fifteen protects tech. They hit their free throws as well. Right. There is seven points. Yeah. It's twenty to thirteen. And really when you think about the at the end of at the end of the regulation, Wendy, Andrea hunter is open. It's almost like Texas Tech for God. How to play defense? Yeah. And that kid hit a money shot, and he was wide open. You hadn't seen him wide open shot like that. Because the shot that he hits in overtime. He's got like three guys right there in front. He and the elevates above all of them and just hits an absolutely perfect shot from the right side. The I don't know why culvert it and close out with confidence. He was the thing about cultural what he was doing. And I could see it, and they'll they'll replay again for some reason he felt like you had to get down load at the stop the penetration. When in actuality up by three let that kid go let you know. I think it was tied to Rome. Let them go and let him shoot it. And let them make it. And then you're still up by one. But he just he lost where he was for God who he was covering and forgot the situation in the game where you're up by three you're late. The last thing you want is to have hunter have the ball and have a wide open attempt. And that's exactly what happened you'd think about Virginia in their journey last year. Of course, you know, you NBC it's so embarrassing for them. Once he'd going down to sixteen for the first time ever, really a one-seat, though when the hunter is not on the court. Sure. Now, if they didn't make it past the round of thirty two or they didn't make it to the Sweet Sixteen or whatever that would have been one thing to lose to a sixteen. They still should have been able to do that. They were still a heavy heavy favorite. They come back this year, you're down thirty six thirty at halftime to Gardner Webb. You come back in that game have a huge second half. And then you've got all these other instances last night. Of course, then the Auburn game, of course. The Purdue game and the way the data ended. You gotta give Tony Bennett. And that group a ton of credit for not folding in moment after moment after moment. I think about it blow another lead here, they blow lead the Texas Tech. I mean, they're up nine their crews in about five minutes ago. And then you're comes Texas Tech. They don't fold again the same thing happened in the game against Auburn. The same thing happened and the game against produced. So it's just it's it's to fight through those moments after what happened to you last year to have the confidence still after what happened last year to go and win a national championship is just it really is remarkable. I think Grant Hill said something last night about Tony Dungy call and Tony Bennett after the loss last year, and how Tony Bennett handled it, and then Tony was talking about how it brought them closer to his fate that brought them closer to his team. And and it was a very painful lesson. Learn and all that kind of stuff, and and he took that lesson and very very rarely does that does this opportunity ever present itself is lucky at a lot of guys coming back, and and certainly guys a little bit older guys. Who were battled tests because they went through it. And they and they they they live to play another day. And then get the championship that they thought they probably should've won last year. But I don't know. It's just it was just a tremendous tremendous Ron it was a great tournament this year. There were a lot of great games. It's unfortunate that the overtime ended up the way it did with about a minute ago. The game was in the hands of Moretti. And then all of a sudden there comes the replay. And it's overturned the balls given Virginia and I felt like at that point in time. Texas Tech was taken either game. Now Mooney attempts a couple of really bad threes. But I don't know it was exciting. But it was also it was unfulfilling unfulfilling finished away at ended the last minute of overtime. Yeah. I that's all it looked these are one thousand nine hundred hundred okay great game. And a great ornament. I mean this. This was an unbelie the only thing that this tournament. Didn't have was a true Cinderella. But I was fine with that. I mean, you didn't have great basketball. Right. But in the first couple of weekends. You didn't have the. The sister Jean storyline. You didn't have you MBC didn't have all about basketball. The only thing we had that we didn't that that was a little bit of controversy was the Tom Izzo Yona's player in the first round. Yeah. There was that was at on after that. And then you have design Williamson Michael Nadi, Nike disaster story and all that trying to come out and just ruined the tournament. But again, the tournaments bigger than any other off the court story and all that other stuff. And I don't know. I just think that when you take a look at college basketball you watch for forty minutes. How important the point guard is and decisions that they have to make the amount of times the ball is in their hands. And they are required by their head coach to take the ball to the hoop. And then if you if you get there Schorr, of course, you can shoot it if you want, but on your way, there you gotta keep your eyes open. You gotta keep your awareness about you got to see where the double teams are coming from. And you gotta distribute the basketball. I gotta tell you. Tiger rome. Was that guy for Virginia. Oh, yeah. I mean local. Kidman and that kid I he just jumped off screen last night. Yeah. I mean, he's one of those guys who always joke around about the spark plug guys or the scrappy players on a team is everything and that four Virginia. So this was one hell of a storyline. One hell of a tournament one of my favorite tournaments, not only because I picked Virginia beginning and ended up winning some money in a bracket. I did have that. But also the fact that you had great games. Great teams. It didn't have the sex appeal in the final four one Duke went out didn't have Kentucky your North Carolina. And the blue bloods, weren't they are fine. But you had one of the best elite eights I can ever remember every one of those games was awesome. You had Duke and UCF Duke in Virginia Tech, which was just another unbelievable gaming. This was this was a really really good tournament. You did you had a great national championship game. Even know of these warned the biggest of brand name. So all around. This was a great tornament locally in college basketball shocking last night, when I see John Ralston tweet out that Chris. Mullen is going to step down. And he's not going to be the head coach, Shane, John. Here's what I think happened, and you may know a little bit more than I do. But, but I I just think that when they're lot director came out a couple days ago days ago, he's going to be our head coach. And then Chris decides to step away from being the head coach that means that there are alumni that are upset with Chris Mullin somewhere along the line somebody who gives money to the program or somebody who is a supporter of the program is upset with either the recruiting or the way that he's coaching or or something like that. And while the athletic director is showing solidarity with his head coach the head coach is hearing the whispers and hearing the negativity and says enough of this. I don't need this. And that's that's what I simply think. And I'm speculating here. I don't know any inside information. But just understanding that the situation at Saint John's that's what I think is happening. Yeah. There's been some talk about contract extension and philosophy on that. That Mullen wanted a more years on the contra. Read two full years left on it. And that the new AD Mike crag wasn't comfortable and giving him that. And you know, my Craig has got do right by Saint John's on I think he does your Saint John's here, I've done imagine. Chris Mon those going to be demanded a contract extension in two years left in the season that they had where which was okay. But certainly didn't live up to expectations is telling you this. This is what goes on. And I'm sure that there was some sort of alumni pressure. And Chris probably wasn't feeling the overall love that he was feeling for years ago. Yep. You know? And all of a sudden, you know, the. It's just kind of gets a little bit foggy. And then you start feeling a little bit negative feelings towards each other. And then and before you know, it, Chris, you know, look, he recognizes it, and he probably feels like, you know, I don't want to put up with us. That's what that's what I would think. Yeah. And then the the first name that pops up in every article to replace Chris Mullin is Bobby Hurley, and I'm Bobby Hurley's coaching out and Arizona, state income and Bobby Hurley's making two point one million dollars man coming here. Bobby Hurley's buyout for his contract because he signed an extension January twenty eighteen as two and a half million dollars. You're telling me Saint John's who still sells dollar hotdogs at carnesecca arena is going to be paying this guy. Five million dollars for one year just to get them here. And then beyond like, the bad thing to now for Saint John's because all of a sudden anybody from a smaller school that would be looking at Saint John's upward mobility for the coaching ranks all of a sudden gone already like the buffalo coaches. John, right. The Wofford coach is gone all those guys are resigned or sign with new schools for big money. Most of those guys. I don't know where the next coach is coming from. But what Bobby Hurley is not leaving Scottsdale. Arizona or whatever wherever they are Tempe. Arizona he's not leaving their no believe me. Well, not to come to his weeds. He's not he's got a good life right there. He's well. I don't think that Saint John's could pay imperial even if you wanted to. But Zona state is not like something, you know. It's a big school. Yeah. Of course, it is. I know. Absolutely. I would also thinks that maybe their standards are a little bit lesser than Saint John's. So you're probably getting a few more kids. Yeah. Who knows I I know that that sounds like a sexy name Bobby is going to come back, home and all that stuff. I don't see that happening. It's the morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo. So there's a couple of coffee places that are outside one across the street is Gregory's coffee, and then we have a Starbucks Gregory's coffee. Has sent me something on Twitter. So we gotta get you guys some coffee. I agree. And I'm like, that's great. We are in now. It'd be awesome. And they said send the address, and we'll send some stuff up to you. And I'm thinking you've got a location right across the street. I thought that's why you were tweeting us, then I'm like giving the address out and I had like a key Hernandez moment where I'm thinking, maybe I should be giving any information out here. Now, I guess if we give the address to Gregory's coffee, it's a lot different than what Keith did. Right where he put his cell phone out on Twitter to someone named yoga girl yoga girl who wanted to get him on a Matt. Right. So this is not the same thing because it's public information where WFAN DM them. Yeah. I could do that. But then it's like, do you think it's Gregory himself on the Gregory coffee? I don't I think it is possible. I think it's very possible. All right. So what I'll do is I'll I'll follow him in. And that's probably the best way to Gregory. We also wouldn't mind some chocolate chip cookies. Yes. They do have fine pastry. Yeah. There's many many pastries just did. Now. I once went there a couple of months ago, and I ordered a chocolate chip cookie. And they said, we don't feel these up to our freshest standards. So you could have the rest of them free about that. Yeah. Wow. That's right. You don't wanna impressed by Gregory's golfing. You've got Starbucks downstairs Dunkin donuts a block away. And then there's still there's still and by the way, promos. Yeah. However you. Your internship this year by Coffey, intern ship before five guys four five said, okay. I'll want to come in. No problem. It's right next to them and has a train station. Long island. L how serious to house get on the one go right into the Penn station. Take the train right out. The manhasset get off go there worked for about four hours to get the understandings of mad house. How many days would you say like ten twelve days he could do for like a real internship? And actually, you wanna you wanna take a couple a couple of weeks off and stay out there. And then you can just go there and just work in our days. Just to see what it's all about like a vacation. Yeah. So use my vacation here to learn the coffee business, if you want to get into business, you Jerry wanna get into business. I think Jerry should be open at a top golf similar. I do too, you know, because investors eight or nine years ago. Didn't you not a top golf, but you wanted to do like driving? Try your golf would be awesome. If you know some people to get it rolling. Let's go I know investor's Bank banking in your best interest. Here's here's the thing. What then I got to pay it back. If it doesn't work out. I'm looking for some private. Is to pay somebody back so for sure, and that's why you do it legally. And that's why you set it up. Right. And that's why the private investors legal what he talking, but I'm just saying, but you're going to have to set up a whole partnership structure and everything like that and go to the Bank, they small banking. I'd rather have somebody retrench outbound back to the important stuff. And I'm telling you don't wanna do is there a specific pastry that you would like Al for meter request from Gregory's chocolate chip cookies, a classic Gregory's coffee is going to send us over some stuff specific pastry. Boomer anything? No, I'm fine. You know, you're sure the I'm fine. I mean, now's the time to take advantage of this come on. I'm not a guy that likes to take advantage of things like that Jerry pay drink good. Just the coughing. What's real? I mean, I'm willing to eat a pastry here. And I'm the one that's been off this stuff night while great. Wow. This weekend. You kind of I did through that. I do. I did I ate doughnut holes that I don't in two different sauces that were had powdered sugar. So I saw someone order this, right? And it came in a paper bag, and it was a bunch of freshly fried doughnut holes like homemade in a paper bag that they throw the powdered sugar and they shake up, and then they give you a little fork and then to different dipping sauces. And I was like I'm sorry. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. It was it was amazing. So the nice thing though, he broke down. And then he decided say, you know, what yesterday was a nice day. I'm going to get on my bike. Yeah. I'll tell you about that later, and it was not pretty good for the five borough bike tour that again, that's may sixth may maybe sorry soon. Yeah. I know that's perfect. You can finish they mile go. It loaded. All right, Jerry. What do you got? For me. Your brought to you by winner brothers waste systems, creating a cleaner and greener Long Island to learn more. Visit winters B R O S dot com. We'll start with the NC double A tournament Texas Tech leading late but Virginia the answer Joe bringing up the floor Jerome attack. It goes past kicks. Brady andre. Tired sixty eight twelve point nine seconds to go net is Kevin Kugler Westwood One. Got the game. Even Texas Tech, though the other way had not one but a couple of opportunities. They misfire on an open three ball goes out of bounds. They have one last chance in regulation to try and win it. And this is where Virginia's defense stepped up. Looney. Looking Mooney over shot walked over time? Curic pover- shot is blocked by Braxton t who saves the moment for Virginia and overtime beckons in the national championship in the OT Virginia wines, beating tech eighty five seventy seven the final again, Kevin Kugler with the call Westwood One. As the Cavaliers are national champions. You had a very excited Tony Bennett as you can imagine on CBS with Jim nans afterwards. So he talked about what he tells his players at the beginning of the season. When you start the grind they come into office. I gotta poster Iraqi on the steps and the message of that poster of rocky on the steps I said, I just want a chance at a title fight one day. That's all we want. And these guys came to fighting this title in our the champ. And they certainly got done. He tried to motivate them a little bit before the game. I play the song for them today. Now, we just heard about rocky once. So do you think he went with this to motivate them? Right. You got the poster on the board. And the course that would make all the sense in the world makes their own right? It's quite a song for them today called hills and valleys by tower wells, and it just means that you're never alone in the hills or the valley's only. Christian. In this Jesus guy. Deal the kids. I mean, we can't we can't hear what the Jesus guy. You're talking about. There's stairs. Knows that talk about their savior. And God bless us. All that stock. Gas and he did do that. And as I got guys who play there's a song to their team before national championships. And there's guys who play Feddie wop before the national championship game. The you know, the different. So that that's what I'm saying. It's not judging. It's just a he believes in confirm. Yes. But it's he seems like he's he's the of the bigger Jesus guy variety. Not just your run of the mill Jesus guy. You're a big Jesus guy. He's a bigger Jesus guy. Oh, I get it. Okay. But would you describe yourself as a big Jesus guy? I don't I don't necessarily know that the the you believe you don't right. No, no, no, no, let's leave out on the street corner preaching. That's for sure about doing that. Right there listened. There's all different degrees visas. Do you think that Mark Jackson would be interested in the Saint John's job? I'm sure he'd be interested in any job that I mean, he seems like a guy's been wanting to coach constantly for years and years and years. I don't know if that's the I have you could you imagine Saint John's going down that. Road again with an ex player. I don't necessarily know, you know. Yeah. I mean, speaking of Jesus different like, that's not the Catholic Jesus guy. You know what I'm saying? There's a different that's the born again Jesus guy. So, you know, which Jesus exactly is. Okay. Your non Jesus guy. I have atheist. Yes. You guys mentioned Chris Mullin? It looks like he's stepping down. Right. Not official yet. I mean, that's what the story says. I don't. Yeah. I don't know. I about I think it's more about staffing and the internal relationships with guys who decide not to spend time on campus and contract extensions. And they just lost their top recruiting guy. The Fred Hoiberg draft. Right. He just left. And I mean, there's there's a lot of movement going on over there right now and things are, and I think if you're the athletic director, the new guy, right? He's been offered you might crag. He's at Duke guy. Right. So there you go. He's not going to be standing around waiting for somebody to show up when they're not there. So it's time to put your foot down and start have more expectations for the people who work there. That's what I think is probably happening. Yankees Astros last night in Houston Yankees. A three one lead into the late innings. You'd have hero Tanaka gets out of a mess of jam in the sixth inning takes three one lead into the seven. But the inky bullpen could not hold it. Chris britain. I is access. One one. Swung at high in the air to deep right center. Veal Gardner back a way back and it's all four two runs. Scored a tie the game. Torino the second with a double that is John sterling with the game-tying Fain made it three three there in the seventh. You take it to the eighth and you had another opportunity for the Astros to score. And this time they do and this time, they take the lead. And it'll be an old one Korea. And it said weekly on the ground to I. And there's no one no one there. Golden dribbler at Thursday's on birth fielded. But he had no way so give Toya Basit and Astros take a four three lead. And that would be your final score again. John here on the fan four three Astros take these series opener from the Yanks. Here's Aaron Boone bullpen can't always be awesome. Unfortunately today, they got to Brit. But you know, that's going to happen. Every now and again written out of vino did not dot. Of ODA Reno Reno what Tapio? Tell me how to go about pronouncing auto venos- last name. What what was what? By the way, this is how the Yankees are built. Right. This is way they're supposed to do. And you're someone I was reading this morning. This a little bit of a question as to whether Tanaka should have come out of the game. You only through seven. Because I thought the same thing. But I I don't know. Here's what I was gonna say. I was going to say that the Handke's are built to win games. Just like this. You're started goes six innings, and then you hand it over to your big money bullpen, and you say go and win the game. The also just didn't do it last time. He got out of Jayme in the six to first and second. Nobody right. And I thought at that point. All right. Even with a pitch count. He was done. Not. That's what I thought. He's got out of that jam. And then now we're gonna go to the bullpen. Because of who they have in the bullpen. Exactly. Right. I just watched the inning because I didn't see it live last night. So I just watched the inning in the in the newsroom, and it's like, yeah, they get the first and second situation, but it's like we hit balls to get out of the inning. And you think boy he's still got a lot of guests in the tank, but that said he he was asked himself. We should have stayed in the game more come out of the game. No, I don't I think that was the right timing. He was showing he felt that way. Yes. And they probably ask them in. I would think that would have asked them in the dugout, right? I would think so. Yeah. How do you feel is everything? Good. I mean you worked hard in the sixth inning. You got out of it. A great again. But they're built to do exactly what they had it all set up last night to win the game. Just two guys just got hit in the walks again with the walks. It's it's like watching the Mets the other day. And that's why Aaron judge says you just have a short memory foam. No move on and win them. All. And there you go, and that's it. So that will be tonight Jonathan Leisa takes Garrett Cole on the fan at seven thirty Luis Severino back in New York. MRI to be reevaluated says the shoulder still doesn't feel right Mets home for the twins coverage in WCBS eight eighty Jacob degrom. Kyle Gibson at the starters. They're elsewhere Phillies. Get another big night at the plate from Reese Hoskins and beat the national to swung on hit high left field that will untie game. Raise Hoskins has given the Phillies the lead yet. Again. He would Homer again on the night to home runs for Hoskins fills beat the nationals four three Phillies radio with the call there. The fills out to a seven and two. To start now on the season. Angels beat the brewers five two to the giants had Madison Bumgarner on the mound. And they lead the Padres five to nothing next thing. You know, they were trailing ran meal swings at the first pitch and launches wanted. Deep left if it's fair. It's gone. It is fair. It is gone. The Padres lead another pinch hit home run. Yeah. This time. It was Fran meal race who is the pinch at two run Homer. And they want up winning the game six to five as they beat. The giants. Padres radio with the call their Braves beat the Rockies eight six Mariners smashed the royals thirteen five Edwin Encarnacion two home runs in one inning in the sixth inning. The Mariners have thirty two runs now in twelve games. Cardinals over the dodgers four three Chris Davis, three hard balls. And then struck out twice. He was over five. He's now oath record forty nine. He indeed sets the record here. However was his manager Brandon Hyde who basically says the guy can't buy one right now three bowls in the nose and for three best. We're. Really good. So I'm taking that as a positive moving forward. How about the defense? He played right. Mid diving in a couple of really nice place. So we help us help us win the game. Did he just he just can't hit the ball or getting? It's unbelievable, man. But and you know, just go back to Seattle second. You know, who is leading Bruce. Jay, Bruce, Jay, Bruce on fire. That's his leading the Seattle. Mariners. You got six. They played a couple extra games right in Japan. They didn't get a head start. But still pretty good. Pretty good. Also pirates lost to the cubs. Ten nothing. Not a good day for the starting pitchers John Lester left with a hamstring injury. And I swear to God. I don't know how these guys get up. James Tien got hit in the head with a line drive actually finished the inning. And then came out of the game. I think it was the second inning said the be okay. They will reevaluate him today with the cubs did when at ten zip raves over the White Sox. Five one Blake's now six innings. He struck out eleven no games in the NBA. But tonight, your Knicks are in Chicago was that season on my gun to keep going games. But they they've they've secured the worst recommend matter anymore, and by the way tonight as the NHL draft lottery, Jerry, I don't know if you knew that you told us yesterday. Yeah. Okay. We will report. For sure right. It's the morning show with Boomer Esiason and Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo Virginia Wednesday national championship last night on the Texas stack overtime Yankees with a bad day on the field. Ceferino injury another MRI blowing Atta lead to the Astros wanna shut out. What a shot at one of my listeners. Deanna who is doing great work with memorial middle school and fair on New Jersey. It is autism awareness month that is April April is autism awareness month. And now, she's working very hard and closely with the students the teachers and the families at memorial middle school in fairlawn, New Jersey and a wanted to shout or out as she listens every single day, and I know many people that are living in their families with autism. And this is a big deal to get the word out continually. So great job Deanna in those who are helping out and getting the word out and talking about autism during autism awareness month. That's exaggerated the so the month of April starts, April second, I think it's the international autism awareness day. And then it kicks off the entire month to show the struggle of living with autism and trying to get through a daily day with an autistic child, and how difficult it really is. So good for them and keep them out in the forefront. And to keep them. In our in our thoughts. Eight seven seven three seven sixty six six six to join the show and say something out you gotta get somebody to things that need to get done. Here. Somebody's gotta get in there and get the garbage stinks. I mean, they don't want anything. They don't want the garbage. I mean, I think somebody would have to straw sandwich. Exactly what it smells like, exactly. Can. We get it out of here. Please number two. I thought Marty was supposed to be changing. This keyboard. Oh, I didn't know while he was in here like three days ago. Okay. I got it. I got it. And then basically hasn't done a thing. So maybe the person who eats the salami got stuff into the keyboards the whole thing. Look like they've been changed. Here's one. No, it's not. I don't understand if someone hit us. So it smells like a like a back Contessa. Yeah. Maybe someone hit us along fours head. Yeah. Really like, you're waiting at the counter. That's what it smells like, maybe. That's why maybe that's why you wanna Gregory's coffee to bring you something to eat. Oh, by the way, it is Greg from Gregory's coffee. It is the guy who has reached out and he's a big listener and get an internship over there. L A little that's right across the street. Perfect. I'm sure he'd love to add. You said you all set up ahead you overall like an apron and everything with your name on it a little coffee apron. Yeah. It's going to be ready to rock and roll. Just gotta look the part of that barista want to go back to something that you mentioned when you were talking about Chris Mullin that was a little bit alarming to me. So you brought up the fact that maybe Chris Mullin and other members of his staff weren't as committed as the new way d would have liked to the program meaning. That they weren't there as much or there wasn't as much coach. What they have already had some movement off of that Steph. Right. The the big recruiter went to Nebraska and the Hoiberg stabbed right to work for the school. And you know, there's there's you know, there's a substance people. And then there's the people that are the face of the of the program. Right. And you gotta understand that you have a new athletic director that comes in and he's evaluating people. And watching how they do their job whether or not they are committed all into the school because at this level you have to be all in you got to be committed one hundred percent. So here's a guy that watched coach K, build a behemoth of a program and spend every waking hour, probably on basketball and look at all the great coaches. He has spawned over the years and all of his former players and how good they've gone onto be as coaches. So I would think that okay now, you hire that athlete director. And that's a good higher by Saint John's. I think because it's very similar in terms of school size and everything else and. History of the basketball program. But he also inherits a hall of fame NBA basketball, who's on the dream team for God's sake and know, he's gonna do his thing a certain way and Mitch Richmond is going to do his thing. A certain way he's going to leave and go back home as opposed to be around the program all the time. So if you inherit that as a athletic director, and you see that then you know, what the problem is. The problem is is you don't have everybody that's all committed all at once. And all in the be the best they possibly can be for Saint John's disappointing to me. I love the idea. I that's part of the program. I believe that that's part of the problem. And it's all about like, hey, look, we want to keep you here. But are you going to do things that what you've been doing it? Or we changing the way we're doing things because the way we're doing it is not good enough. Yeah. I it. So that the two emotions that I have here is one. I love the fact that the is looking in that direction of all right? If we want to be the best of the best. We have to do things this way he's coming from Duke. So he knows that. So I do like that the other side of it is really disappointing to me because I believe that Chris Mullin was doing everything that he needed to do it. I absolutely was in love with the fact that he was the head coach at Saint John's, and he was going to be the guy that turned it around. I knew that it wasn't a lock I knew that. There was a chance that Chris Mullin come in. And this could happen where you have one season where things have gone well for them. And even that seemed like a little bit of a disappointment. But I also think that I think and I'm not sure, but I think Christmas family we've back out to California. Yeah. So you have this really weird dynamic that setup at a school that can't be set up that way. If you are a Saint John's, and you're trying to be legit, and you're trying to be big time. And you're in the big east, and you want to be making it to the final four can't head. Right. You can't have people that are not fully vested all the time. And all in, you know, I often refer to coach Bela check and coach Bela check says no days off, right? Who your job all that kind of stuff? Right. And that's the message that he always says he's he's grinding every single day now professional football little bit different than college basketball and get it. And Chris is not a he's a basketball coach. So he has only so much time and he can spend with his players. You know, it's he's restricted out there for ten hours every day with this players. But I would I would like to think that what you want if you and by the way, if you are the director your s online too. By your alumni. Right. It's a very very difficult decision to come in and say, all right. This is what we need Adia. Kristen if not we're going to have to part ways, especially with how legendary I mean, he he's the guy. I mean, it's Tim and coach carnesecca I the two guys. So now all of a sudden, you're inheriting something that you're looking at. And you're saying this feel right to me. And I either got I got to put my foot down and restart this whole thing and be ruthless. If we're going to be anything worth anything, and I gotta start making some really hard decisions. And if a guy wants a contract extension. I am not giving it to him. If I am not comfortable with the amount of time and effort that I perceived that they are putting in. That's that's the crux. I think of what's going on here at Saint John's it's go to veto and Brooklyn joins us on the fan. What's happened in veto good morning? Good morning, gentlemen. How top of the brother? Yeah. Last night. I'm watching the game boom jail. And I'm listening to stand by west commentator, make a comment that I couldn't believe when he said that the super slow MO could be distorted and I said, oh my God. I've been watching the NFL on the foot on the sidelines for so many years and the super slow MO we always thought like the begun spoil. And now he's saying that you could it could be distorted the free veto. I think what he's talking about. And you can see with your own eyes is when they zoom in with it. I don't even know if it's so much the super slow, but with things zoom way in like they did on the hand of the player, then the video gets a little grainy when you zoom in. So I think that's what territory was talking about. I don't I don't believe that it's a distortion of reality so much. There's been wrong calls that are made. You know, whether it is not I understand your point. But the fact that year it from refereed, I mean, that's. Like shock waves. Like, I think you're overreacting at veto is this was not. Here's the issue last night. It's what boomer brought up is this what we're using replay for we're talking about a frigging fingernail and a national championship game. When clearly the Andre under knocked the ball out of the hand of the varieties knocked it right out. I mean like that that to me like any other time before replay. That's Texas Tech's bowl down to would a minute to go. Let me ask you a question. Let's say there's ten minutes ago in the game. They replaying that no one hundred hundred exactly so that that that is the issue as far as like the zooming in super slow MO and that stuff, I if you've got the technology use it to the best advantage. I wish every person could have the. The experience that I've had in talking and sitting down with gene s- territory and having him explain the actual referees point of view about pretty much. Every one of these situations. He is so thorough and so detailed. I don't know. If that really comes across in the thirty or forty seconds to talk about it would Jim or Jimmy Tony or with anybody for that matter during the football season. But when you sit down, and you listen to him talk, and you listen to all the different aspects of everything that they have to deal with you'll come away by saying, I'm glad you do that. And I don't have to do that. Because it is it is painstaking. It really is. And most most if not all referees. Maybe except the guys that refereed my hockey game. But anyway, all referees are beyond reproach, especially at that level. They are they'll make mistakes. They didn't they missed the the double dribble they missed the and the New Orleans game. But the really all. Very good people. And they're and they're above all of that nonsense. They don't listen to it. They don't they aren't affected by it. And gene would teach you that. And you'd be amazed. No, you I wish I could just sit just sit in our just talk to him away from the microphones and everything else. Just get a sense of what the referee still with heats the mooning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo. Squatted when we came in. We were going to get into the basketball and everything else. But I knew that it was going to be a Yankee fan that was going to be upset yesterday sucked man and a great game. But you know, they're they're glorious game. Look at it from their perspective. One Tanakh is deal in the. Know, you have Britain ought to be known. You ready to go Chapman's going to be set up to get the save and everything else? And unfortunately, not everybody is going to do their job at all times. And there's going to be those days as of. Aaron boom was talking about yesterday after the game where you know, they got to they got two guys right happens. And by the way, you're not playing the Orioles you playing the frigate Astor, I know, and it would have really been nice to come out of that series. You sweep the Orioles you go down to Houston, you'd get divert. Lander you win that game and it slipped right out of your fingers. And then before the game, the Severino news is terrible. And this is something in and right away. And I know I know you don't wanna be right about him being hurt. I don't tell ever you right away that first day when we talked about the rotator cuff, you said that I would not be surprised if this was something that lingered around and eventually they have to get surgery this year. Well, guess what happened long toss and didn't feel great needs. Another MRI the first one. There was no structural damage for Severino this one if he comes out of this one no structural damage at least a good step in the right direction. But I mean, the fact that he's getting another MRI when things were moving in the right direction. And now, they're not. I mean, that's scary. So I don't think everybody's saying. Michael, Michael, they're going to go out and get a joke. They already signed GIO Gonzalez. And I know they really like her mind and the sokaia so I don't think that they're going to this point address it now if Severino's out for the year and the Yankees are in the thick of things like we expect them to be I could see them trading. They'll make they'll make a big trade Wheeler somebody like us. Let's go to Mike and we hawk and Mike. What's happening, brother? Morning guys. I just want to talk about the Yankees. Listen Astros got away with this win. I'm a big fan. And it bothers me every time they take out. The starting pitcher way wehrley I to knock out at a six inning unscathed. They they shouldn't use them come back. He was at seventy eight inches and your and you've got three runs against the Justin Berlanda when does that ever happen for those Yankees? I know did you hear though, I might want to ask is did you hear what Tanaka said about being taken out of the game. After the game was over Healy. He was okay with it. He understood I think that was the right thing for him to say, you know, but he's looking for his manager. I think he believes that he listen, Mike, you're watching this game. I guess or second guess because you know, as I'm watching in the six as he gets out of that jam he's fired up coming off the mound, and they just showed on CBS sports network. I'm thinking this is perfect. He's gonna come out at this point got his job done a low pitch count, which is fine. Even though he probably could have come out there. But. Not all about the pitch count. Got out of that six go to the poll pen, you got one of the best bullpens in baseball. If not the best on paper go to the bullpen win the game. That's what I felt at the time. You're telling me you didn't. You know, this is why. And this guy's pointed it out earlier before I got on. You can't ask these bullpen guys. Perfect every night. I mean, they're going to give up one or two one run to runs and it doesn't mean that the bullpen imploded. Just means you can you can expect the Bopenda be perfect. But might use it the last game you played against Baltimore was a hundred and ten to five right? These guys were fresh. They were ready to go. It's a close game on the road. You got sixth grade innings out of your starter? This is the. Probably it was perfectly set up about this is also full. But the one thing I will say now. Okay. So let's take it to the next step. You have Severino you've got issues if he comes back is not going to be for at least another six weeks. I it becomes back at all dump Matanzas. You still have issues with him. Right. We still don't have answers for him on top of that. You have a bullpen out of you know, I think is appeared in six out of ten games. Yeah. And this is basically the way major league baseball is going these days, and we're only in April. We're ten games into the season. And I understand why Mike would say that. Maybe Tanaka should go another running. But think too I think is that Aaron Boone is trying to protect Tanaka. If he feels like, hey, man. I just got a good six innings out of him seventy eight pitches. I get out of there. That's good. That's all great. I'll give it to my pen, and they blow it they blow. It just happens to be they blew it last night. Like either way someone's going to get more of a workload. Whether it's your starting rotation or at your bullpen at some point. Now, it was seventy five appearances for on vino last year sixty three the year before he's used to it. I mean, yeah, I mean, not quite at seventy five all the way back in two thousand fourteen but it had sixty three or more earlier in his career prior to this year. He's not going to go like eighty ninety appearances. And by the way, there's going to be time for the Yankees blowout teams. Like they did on Sunday against the Orioles were none of these guys are going to get used. So I this is the. Time when you go to your heavy hitters, especially a good team riding on the road race going starter. Get the Verleger I just to me, that's total second guess, and I actually thought, you know, David Cone was making the case last night during a game that that Tanaka once he got the first two guys on in the six that he should have been taken out right there because he felt like the game is getting away from right and third time through the order, and they put up the stat that third time through the order Tanakh. It's it's basically the same batting average against is the first and second time through the order, and that was a discussion point, but this was to me a pure second guess ANZAC Britain, by the way, you know, he has an opportunity to get out of that inning. And then, of course, gives up the big base clearing double to tie the game. And then it's out of you know, who comes in and gives up the of of ODA Reno Reno what Tapio. Tell me how to go about pronouncing venos- last name. See I think that this is Steve messing with us. I think it is. I think that he heard us do LeMay, Hugh, and he did this on purpose. I can tell. Dave. But they see that. I that is a mistake right now having worked with Steve and knowing him, I think what he's doing here. Now is he's messing around without a venos- name because he pronounced tell me how to go about pronouncing auto venos- name correctly as last name. He thinks out of no is his first name. Oh, really? Yes. In this was told to you by his producer. No, his producer when he he acts the full version. Yeah. Because I went and got it. He asks if Mike fliegelman how do you pronounce on venos- last and fling is on the phone does? And he's like you. You said it, right? Okay. Interesting because it sounds to me like he's he's messing around here. Yes. I think it is. He thinks his name is up vino Octavia or something on. The free agency signing for the Yankees octagon on arenas women, Hugh, which is a guy that very very cumbersome than pronounce but a coup for Brian Cashman. All right. Let's go to wars. As Sal jersey shore. What's going on, Sal? Hey, good morning guys everybody. All right. Sal, what's going on brother show? I'm watching the game last night. And I'm saying to myself geo Chiyo point, you know, that was on a man that was the why store in the mount he goes to finning gets out of that. Jim good, take him out at seven thing. But this is not that guy battle-tested they may let Berlin for what one hundred ten fitches Jeanine. Yeah. They gotta let them out to work out there. We send them out. And it's never dinning. I mean, forget about the bullpens forget about all these nice pitches. But the guy go to work that put he definitely he's the. Yeah. I mean, listen, I understand that. And this is just a philosophy thing us, let them guy go to where I say let the bullpen go to work you re signed Britain game a ton of money. You throw it and honest vino he gave him a ton of money. I mean, that's the time. And I gave and you've got six innings atom. Forget about the pitch count. Don't forget get Sal, Sal. We're also just an April. This is not like an August. Or September game. You know, this is like you. You wanna stretch your starters out? There's no question about it. But you also you need to protect Tanaka. You gotta make sure that he's going to make it through the season protecting yet. But we were sluggish coming out of the gate. Why not make sure that we get invited before it gets out of hand? Again. It's early. Well, let's go to work with them gain. Yeah. I know. I still think this game was set up the way that the Anki are built. That's exactly the game is set up and. Then of course with David Cone saying what he was saying last night. He's there. He knows it. He's been in this situation while why would you even second guess what David Cone of San at that moment? Right. I mean, he said this is I said it would be a little bit unconventional because of his pitch count. But to me, you could make the case to take to knock out right at this moment. And then he ended up getting out of the jam. And then at that point. I was like all right. He's done. I that's just what I thought it kind of felt that way Joe and hop. What's happening? Joe? They were grooming hill night 'cause they a couple of point. I'm a one time Yankee fan websites game. I gotta be saying they lost. But I gotta say it was a great game Quinn. Frazier. Looked great against ROY Lander. You had judge who will great again. You gotta you. Gotta you guys hundred percent, right. You've got to protect Tanaka with especially with the injuries hitching two guys dealing early. Just gotta say overall Yankee fan great game last night happy with the wind Asia. Clint frazier. What he's doing right in my condemn very quickly. What do you got Mike? Hey, guys, come on. I won't take much of your time. I just wanted to touch on the Yankees last night. So I think this kid Clint Frazier the real deal. I mean, this is a sign of things to come. I I mean, this this could start like every day is young he's hungry. He missed most of last year. And then in regards to what you're saying boomer it was the right time to take to knock out he labored through the sixth inning. And I mean, that's that's the formula or the Anki drop. I mean it touched on. I mean, they signed Britain. You know, they got out of you know, that's that's what the suppose it over to the bullpen Frank. And then one other thing, I don't I me personally. I don't want Dallas Tyco. I think he would be a bust in New York special without his beer. Heard. He's just not gonna have it. I'm hoping GIO Gonzalez postal, maybe he can provide some magic, you know. But overall, I mean, there was a tough loss. But they gave it all. And it's the tenth game of the season. You know what? I mean. I leave it to you. Don, I appreciate it at the end of the day. Clint Frazier is making a case for himself. Yeah. And I'm not a big test guy. I don't like to throw that out there all the time. But honestly when I look at Clint Frazier. He looks like he belongs. Sure does. And this is an extended look that we're getting against him against a tough righty. He'll Inver Lander last night. I think that was really nice to see him. Excel in that spot. He's just his bat. Speed his confidence at the plate. He just looks like a guy when the when the ball jumps the way the bull jumps off his bat. He just looks like he belongs. So any hustles, and that's the thing and he'll run into the wall couple times, and he'll get injured as long as he stays healthy. You know, he's a guy that is making a case to stay here. Now, this is going to be interesting. If. He is healthy gardeners. Healthy Hicks is healthy Stanton as healthy healthy healthy not out to they're all healthy. Then what you do. I think if you're the ankles you figure out a way to keep Clint Frazier in the lineup yet. I don't care about you know, options and all this other crap this is about trying to win a frigging World Series. And given the state of the Yankees pitching staff with batons Severino. This thing has taken hit, you know there. There's a big hit that they have to overcome now. And if Frazier is giving you the energy that he's giving you you got to keep them here. Yeah. I mean, it reminds me of a couple years ago twenty seventeen at the Yankees and all the young guys coming off the energy that you had in. Clint Frazier could be this year's version. You gotta look void at the end of last year out of another organization, but still younger guy a lot of energy. You know, you need that you need that on a team. It's still mooning show with Boomer Esiason and Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo. Jerry Recco is back with us. Lot happened. Yesterday include that national championship game that goes into overtime is nothing like at nine twenty tip then in overtime game on a Monday night for guys who do what we do. But they listen, I wouldn't have it any other way. Right. This is what could we will sign better? I grew dairy. But at the end of the day, I don't know how you turn the the TV's off. You can't especially game goes into overtime. I will be completely honest with you that when Virginia was up nine with five minutes to go. They had gotten it to twelve or thirteen I was done. And that's what I was rooting for because I had Virginia my bracket, and I wanted to go to bed and when Texas Tech was starting to storm back I got pissed off. And then when a gun overtime and got even more pissed off. But that's okay. Because it ended up being a great game in everybody survived. All right, Jerry, what's going on. And we are brought to you by the raycatena auto group, schedule an appointment today to Ray Katina service center for first class service at affordable prices, and the Andrea hunter is what is going on. He had the game tying three late in the second half. This was after Virginia had given up the lead, Texas Tech, another nice comeback. You go to overtime. And it was hunter. Again. Here's hunter shooting at three over the Zona the right? This. And it gets back on top seventy five seventy three two minutes to go in overtime. And that is Kevin Kugler the call Westwood One. In the overtime a nice job by the Cavaliers they pull away for the eighty five seventy seven win, they become national champions. And here was Kevin Kugler the final seconds as heard around the country. Six seconds to go up the floor three on the left wing. That is no good rebound. Hunter to dip Shen the Virginia. Cavaliers are the two thousand nineteen NCAA national champion lashed years. Well, horrendous loss as you would in the first round of the tournament losing to the sixteenth seed first time that ever happened. Hunter went for twenty seven points a career best for him. He says he went right after that is to be aggressive. I was aggressive in the first half believe, but my phone, and I decided to do the same thing to say. My phone. Here was Kyle guy who added twenty four he says the team matured every step of the way, we've taken, you know, every experience that we've been through together and tried to use it away that could propel us to a national championship. Certainly did here was Jim Nance on CBS after the game is over. And we got these brackets you got a complete it and he allowed them to do. So we have one more thing to do. There's a printed up here. This is calm here in his us. This is Tony we went to the put the sticker on there. Make it official. Cool there on CBS with Nance the decade get a tie that did one of those kids get his time in the warm up show. Do you ever find out? I never looked. I forgot I didn't see it. He I think I think you want to stop doing that you stop the tie thing bull. He at least stop telling people who gave the tie to. I remember years ago. He was talking about I felt like he was under fire for giving a kid a tie the young man, and I'd get the kid my tie. I mean, it is it's. Right. Yeah. I actually been officially labelled as a weirdo. That's so good. I take off my shirt day. And throw it to tape up after the show. That's my new thing now. So I mean, listen, it's cost me a lot of money getting a new wardrobe, but you gotta do it. I mean, let's it's a special moment. The thing that I think strikes people about this is feels so pretentious. Like, why would a college basketball kid who player who just want a national championship? Give a crap about this old dudes tie. I mean, that's really what it comes down that college kids could be watching a masters this week. And there's Jim. Yeah. Thinking, oh, not maybe not you're right. He certainly he's not going to Kenny bump, bumping or. No, it's not going to vineyard vines. No. He's not. I'm try- can't fi you might be right. He might have stopped the Thai bit. He either only thing. I would say though, is there were predictions that cash. Winston was going to get the Nance tie. Yes. Yeah. But is it does it give it after? I don't know round. I don't know the answer to that. That's what I'm not. Sure. Yeah. I think what happened is he became very secretive about it or he stopped doing it. Because he got made fun of it. I know I know I know he's done something with a vineyard vines. And I want to say, it's maybe for Alzheimer's. Maybe we talked about this during Super Bowl week got his whole thing with a whole cause marketing program around that because that's what his dad suffered from. And so he wanted to get involved in vineyard vines, and he formed a great partnership. So that's why I do think that he probably gave the tie away. But just probably not talking about it as much. Yeah. I don't think he I think he probably just slips the kid. The tie says don't tell anybody about this. The kid throws the garbage. And that's the and I know it's it's the whole pretentious thing the golf thing and all those up, but I'm just telling you when it comes to gym, and it comes to the whole vineyard vines and the whole, you know, Alzheimer's thing that's a serious thing for sure that is yes, the type thing silly. His vineyard vine clothing line for charity. That's a serious. I will continue to try and figure out the Nance tie. If we can. But as of now, I'm not aware of the tie going to anybody Yankees were in Houston last night taking on the Astros Yankees led this game three one along the way. Clint Frazier had an RBI single Aaron judge did hit a home run. Unfortunately for the Yanks to the bullpen could not hold the lead. And it said weekly on the ground to. I there's no no one there. Dribbed at baseline bird fielded it, but he had no place. John, sterling. That made it four three Astros in the ninth Yankees had a chance mention that Aaron judge had a home run already. Well, here he was with two outs. And Roberta Osuna on the mound. The pitch. The judge is line to right field. And it is. By Springer line drive. Right. Adam Hoge game over Houston win take the series opener again John on the fan. Four three. The final score. We played the Carlos Correa. Go ahead infield RBI single prior to that in the seventh inning. It was Robinson Torino's with the two out two run game. Tying double off of Chris Britton that got Zion Braxton. I'm sorry, right. Zach Britton the game even at three at that point smoke too. And here was right. Halfway up the wall. He was adamant Avino. He was the one that struggled in the eighth. He says should have been better losses count the same. So, you know, we'll get ready for tomorrow. But you know, obviously, we would have liked to tour job a little better there at the end and here was Britain tough to deal with he knows should've been better yet loss at their game. And speaking of Masa, seventy eight pitches came out after the sixty says, yeah, I was done. This is through his translator. I like I gave everything I had. And you know, that was anything that had to kind of come out. So he admits that son of a bitch. Wound took me out too early. Ben socks in transit. No about the right time to come out of the game. You know? But that's one of the callers, we had earlier said, well, he's just saying the right thing to cover for his manager that doesn't sound like that to me. It sounds like he's being real I needed to come out of the game. And I bet you they asked him in the dugout when you think listen this this to me is silly. I maybe other people were I guessing it I was not this is why you put all that money in the bullpen. You didn't use them the day before and a blowout game. He gave you six really good innings. He got it Adjame in the six they didn't get the job done. It's as simple as that. The guys that were called upon to fill the roles and everybody expects them to fill most of the time didn't get the job done. And you lost the game. That's it. That's the decision making process shouldn't be under a microscope. Like there was like a two base pass ball or getting caught between first and second place. There's a foul tip or some crowd. Like this wasn't a good baseball game. The other team won. This wasn't like the series against Red Sox in the playoffs. Where he made to really agree GIS Aras with starting pitchers has he didn't have a feel. That's not what this was last night. He was asked if the game could have been different had Britain, not fielded the gurriel ground ball in the seventh where he went to first base for the out with a man on base. Right back up the middle. It was. Right. I mean, I think if it probably goes through it's probably a chance to double play ball. But that's one of those as a pitcher, you know, you react to that. Yeah. And he says the team really did kind of what you guys are pointing out. They really did do everything except just win the game thought our plan was was good. I thought guys execute. I thought guys played well Moscow is terrific. Just came up run short series continues tonight with Jonathan Louisa and Gary cole- on the fan at seven thirty Luis Severino was scheduled to come back to New York last night for an MRI end to be reevaluated because as he put it to his manager the shoulder still doesn't feel quite right? Elsewhere in baseball Orioles. And as last night the Orioles scored twelve runs they blow Oakland out twelve to four. Chris Davis had to of snap that. Oh for streak, right? Wrong to pitch the TC. Davis swings. Ropes peeled. Grossman goes back to the wall. He makes the catch. Chris davis. Hits another bowl about his heart. As he hit one all year. And yet Grossman makes the catch in that seals that unfortunate bit of history for Davis. Who is now over his last forty seven got to getting close though. Right because he hit those balls pretty pretty good. Gotta hit him where they ain't as what they say didn't last night. And then he struck out his next to at bat. So the record streak is now over forty nine. He hasn't had a base at eight months going till a temporary. It's really September fourteenth. So it's horrible. Isn't it? How do you doing bring? Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Did you? I'm being a jackass. I'm being serious. Did you ever have a stretch of let's say, I don't even how you acquit this six or seven games were you were just trash. He were God awful. You weren't hitting anybody in stride. You just didn't have it. No. Okay. What was the longest stretch to three? There were stretch. Was just kidding. You go out and throw. Yes. I there's oh you lose your confidence. Forget that. That's not where I'm going. Do. You feel weird. When the check comes in. He's he's on one hundred and sixty one million dollar contract. He's over his last forty nine. I got it. You know, I think that there's got to be a little level of a guest guilt associated with getting that kind of paycheck when you're not performing. So he's feeling it. There's no question about it. He's hearing it. It was interesting listening to big head and Ken singleton the other day. They were talking about him not changing his approach, and how mind numbing that is to them. Like, you got to change something if it's not going, right? What does he care at this point the guaranteed contract carries toilet? Again, doesn't care. He case in there smiling. Back that what he's terrible. There's no expectation, Molly. Because he's like I can't believe this is going on. I it's not. It's not a smile. I k I'm happy that. I'm still getting paid just belief is what it is. Yes agreement. He wants to do. Well, it does it may not look like at the way his body languages too. But the say that he's happy. You're just gonna be embarrassed. As all hell, I don't think. So he's not at this point nine. I don't think at this point. I think he's beyond Barish -ment. Now. It's just like whatever who cares seriously this ten socks. I suck. I'm getting paid a gazillion dollars to play baseball is awesome. Yeah. You don't get it. But I understand why you wouldn't get it. And that's why you would have had. So that's the way I played just during a softball season. I was like who cares? I hear like here. You know, what you know? It's great of just considered me like the AD at Saint John's eye care. No. I like, boomer. Did you ever throw ten straight incompletions? No rain. Probably somewhere along the line brand straight. I don't know. I would think so somewhere. I don't know. He makes he makes for him. And I was like it was like, you know, years ago, it feels like now he makes four million dollars a month during the season. You gotta be kidding. Like seriously. You've got to feel weird. No at least embarrassed. Yes. A lot of embarrassed. But you know, everybody's looking at you know, everybody's talking about you. You know, everybody's got something to say behind your back. Very people come up to you and go. Hey, Chris, you know, you suck. Very true for someone on photo. Mariners beat the royals thirteen to five Phillies. Go to seven into a four three win over the nationals. Angels beat the brewers five to Padres. Come back and five nothing down. Knock off two giant six to five cubs beat up the pirates ten nothing Jamestown of the pirates in this game. Took a line drive off his head in the second inning did finish out getting and he will be evaluated today. Raise beat the White Sox five to one and the dodgers fell to the cardinals four to three no games in the NBA Monday night tonight. The Knicks are in Chicago Packers quarterback Arron Rogers was on ESPN affiliate and Wisconsin came to the defense of former head coach Mike McCarthy called that Bleacher report story, a bunch of nonsense and garbage also asked the fans to show McCarthy respect for the job that he did for thirteen years. And the other thing was he was asked about I guess, you're Michael Finley and Greg Jennings were the two that really criticizes leadership with the quotes, I suppose, so he went after them for I don't understand why no one question. My leadership wouldn't Finley broke his neck or. Collarbone whatever it was. Yeah. I was the guy there in the hospital with them. I was the guy when he was playing that was going over the plays on Saturday night, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he came to the defense there and Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield, not your why he did this just having some fun. A little message for the fan base as we get set for these off season workouts that guys just really excited for the season. Just want you guys to know that I'm working really hard. This was sucking down helium at a balloons, and then he thought he wouldn't put an Instagram video together and talk to the fans so Odell Beckham junior Baker Mayfield. Enjoy your time together and repeating the big story here. Chris Mullin looks like we'll step down at Saint John's. There you go, and it was definitely helium sucking that wasn't like they know for sure Graham filter. No, no, watching it. He was just thinking about you over here. Okay. That was sucking the air out of the balloon. Now. Maybe you could do something that for like that for our fans, a helium balloon speech, get helium balloons from around here is there. Any place over in Tribeca that balloon place over Tribeca. Can I make you horny? Can I chased some candy? Handcuff you and spank you like we're in fifty shades of grey. We've Kerala dance with me. I'd like to thank you for a dance around the ring. Why don't you out to basking ridge and have some Thai food with me? Yeah. Baby. We did we did that. I actually have no recollection of that. I think the NBA had sent a ton of balloons at the start of the season had every team had their own balloon. So every time because I had every I remember like every single team was represented sees about that as you know is the Stanley Cup in chocolate coming to our study are now not that I'm aware. Nothing. Did you see the capitals put together the Stanley Cup? Dress. I did not see that. Yeah. Baby. See that I'll give Stanley Cup cupcakes in the past sometimes the big chocolate. And when the Rangers are in the playoffs doesn't matter that the islanders in the playoffs. It's a big deal, man. Tomorrow night at the Coliseum. Yes. It's the morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo Virginia wins national championship last night Yankees. Let one slip away against the Astros. You got Jacob degrom back on the mound tonight. And that is always something that's going to catch your attention. And we're going to be locked in to watch that even going to get a walk up crowd. I think every single time now for Jacob degrom home start. There's no doubt about it. It's not going to be the nicest day or the warmest day to day. But you're still going to see that. Because this guy is in his prime best pitcher in baseball at the top of his game. And every single one of his starts is a spectacle. He's at good Colin in Marlboro, New Jersey was on the fans going on Colin. Hey, guys, how you doing today? I was watching the Texas Rangers game the other day. And I don't know if you saw their new celebration after a whole month. Yeah. So talking. Yeah. Go forward. You could explain we'll go. All right. We're talking right after the home run the next guy staying in the batting box. He comes into their little handshake. And then they do well full like we're talking Donald Trump. Grab him in the crotch area. I'm I'm not talking like we're doing a Cup check here. We're talking full grabbed each other after their home run. It was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life. Exactly what. Alan Jerry do after their warm up. They're not wearing cups. That's right. Even more disturbing. Yeah. So I went and watched this, Colin and your description is apropos immune. It is. It's not just like a tap. I mean, these two guys they come ahead. Yeah. Right. And they grab each other's cross. You'll I mean, it is that major league baseball put an end to that. Now that we're speaking about it. I'm sure they already know about it. Do you think they'll be a letter sent from the commissioners all this on major legal letterheads, saying not the grab each other? When you hit a home run. I think it's a big it's a phone call to the general manager is probably what it is. I think about this stuff. Like, I guess, you know, Bryce Harper has his own handshake with every member of personalized J with every member the Phillies. So have you seen him in a home run? He does a different thing with every guy. Well, dude, they got a lot of free time on there. Right. That's the thing. I mean, my point is like how do you come at like these two guys? What could we do could the jungle area couple of slaps Pat on the, but I don't know something. A little hand gesture. No, she's grab each other's junk. When you get home run just running the on deck circle. Like what you grab mine. You don't just grant vine great idea. I'll grab yours at the same time. So instead of a handshake we basically have like a bowl grab on the on deck unzip, my pants and look at my junk like, well, you know, what it is. That's a great idea whatever level of decency there used to be just out the window now. Right. Heavy just who cares sled. It all this. Let it all hang out. I I always said, we're we're closer to a guy pulled his pants down while running around the bases after a big home run than you think. And this this I've said this now for years there's going to be a guy wearing women's lingerie while I who knows. But I think that at this point we're going to see a guy hit a home run in a big spot and just pull out stuff and then run around a basis. I don't know if that's stuff supposed to touch your wiener like he's good. Like, this guy is going to be it's going to be. A along like contentious relationship with the pitcher and he's gonna hit a home run to win a game. And he's just as he's than the basis. He's gonna take it out. And he's days. It's like that sounds like a scene in slapshot. He takes off all of his closes got women's undies on these skating around the ice, right? By the initial just proves my point of two guys grabbing crotches celebrate then I think now we unzip my pants and take it out how much how would you like to bet that they don't do it again? Have they done it only one time. Well, now that we're talking about it. And it's out there. I'm sure it's all over social media and everything I would imagine that major league baseball or the owner of the Texas. Rangers is like boys knock that off. Magin that like sitting there got family of four sitting there and get your six and five year old. And then the little team starts doing their daddy that and then you're here little league team that sponsored by the local wheel alignment place. Now, all of a sudden has all the kids grabbing a rage. Did it like who cares? Exactly. Why? I don't think we'll see it again. He I could just hear rob Manfred. Now, I don't wanna limit your expression, but we have to make sure that these crotch grab and has to stop normal high five maybe the bash brothers like you guys did where Harry here's show them. Video bash brothers back in the day. They used to hit their forearms. They didn't grab each other scrotum. They didn't do that. So if you can just any other if you'd like to smash buttocks. We would take that as well. We'd ought to stifle your creativity dividend expression, right? This the crotch grab. Just a little bit too much little bit too much. Yeah. I mean, I I was shocked when I so I thought I was just gonna be like a little tap like one guy the other joke because you ever you ever get that back in the day. Little like back back of the hand. Right. Always. Sure. Yeah. That's right. Always come up with stinking. He'll hurt down growl, my gut it hurts question. What is going on in sports math? People are losing their minds all over the place. Well, everything's on video now. And then we all see everything that had everyday Packer thing. The Pittsburgh Steeler thing the OB J thing you've got this thing out in Texas. Always something. I mean, it's crazy. I mean. Yeah. And then I think it's combination of everybody on social media constantly, right airing. Every at also there's nothing that can happen that isn't recorded in out there for everybody to see true. You know, it used to be where you know, something like that can happen on a TV broadcast. Someone would need to be taping it in with a VHS and show their friends. I mean now boom instantaneously you can be out. What makes two guys think or come up with what they came up with? Yes. What is the mindset? I'll tell you. What will grab each other? We'll be all over social media. How you think that will be awesome kid? I can't wait to see the all the positive reaction. We'll get from this morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti boomer and geo rough day for the Yankees yesterday. Great national championship game and Chris Mullin stepping down. Now, we haven't heard a thing from Chris Mullin the Saint John's yet officially this just Jon Rothstein report. And I tend to believe Jon Rothstein man is plugged in. He is on the phone constantly. So he shows up here to do a weekly spot with Joe and Evan. He goes in does the interview for an hour and in the brakes, he's on the phone the entire time, and he walks around with his bluetooth in and he talks to people, and it's just stuff like, yeah. Unbelievable, bro. Never saw that coming. So what's what's the latest with that thing? Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. But it was I Lois rated second ever. No, you guys think he's boring. I he's a college basketball Nuri. So if you're not into it, then, but I mean, seriously the guys plugged in. He knows his stuff. He was doing that stuff in the I wrote it the elevator up with them the other day. I was pretending. I didn't know he was he was he was in a crowded elevator. He was on headsets gone. Oh, really? That is breaking news. Yeah. He does this all the time. He's showing off. He's I think I'm the man I got something hanging out of my ear. And I got information. See, I don't know. I think he actually does have information. I think they have information. But that's very do. She to do it in an elevator. I mean, really, honestly, how many people are in there with you about five people in there. Yeah. I yelled at him in Wally tonight on the double dribble. They were talking to each other. Because I think they were on the phone with each other. Right. I told the wall he told of Rosty, and I said, it was a double dribble, and what it wrote Rothstein who Judas hold on a second. I've got breaking news talking about this double dribble Hamadu stuff happening. He puts his feet up on the CBS sports. Radio newsroom like the other day. You said his feet up on the desk. He was like he was on the headset. It was like get outta here. Really really do gotta know source on that. Oh, man. Wait till the people here this way today here it is. So he was just sitting in there with his feet up of the. Yes, I could like that talking into the bluetooth thing. Oh, yeah. Then he did this on the DA show DA had him on for a segment and was like all right. Thank you very much. He's like I came all the way up here. I'm only getting the segment he goes, I really wanna stay for second segment. So DA was forced into taking a second segment and in the second segment he took personal phone calls about breaking news. It wasn't even on. He just seed now. Now, we're sure you know, I believe he's doing it for show. He asked for the second segment just to show how plugged then. He was now I do believe he's plugged in. But I think he likes to show everybody how plugged India's. So it was the John rod seem report for Chris Mullin. So I tend to believe him. But, but yeah, I don't know if he's going to be around today if he's going to do like a recap with Joe and Evan or whatever, but we can bust his balls about that. But to no, no, no. I don't think that's fair. I liked you a little over the top. I like John Ross, Steve, and John he's a he's a listener. John too. But I mean, if you sitting around here like he owns the place. I don't know if he's doing that. I just think he's he's not doing it. All right. Here's the thing. If these doing it on purpose, that's one thing. I get it. All right. You're a big shot. This acting the part of whatever. But if he's not doing for he has no self awareness about himself. Now, maybe he will be self aware because just made himself aware. He's doing it in the elevator. Amongst you know, sports strangers is in there. And he's going man would do again. I get it. He also he does this thing on Twitter where he tweets out like he schedules. The same tweets every day at the same time in the morning has that kind of time. And who's folk like that focus? I'll tell you what they are to. It's every it's every day is a gift he tweets that out every day and also stay hungry. Stay humble, those are the two things he tweets out, wet stays stay hungry. Stay humble. So when you get on another better with the thing hanging out of your ear. Yeah. That's humble that's homeowners. And every day is a gift and the other thing he tweets out every day is leadership and learning are indispensable to each other. These are the three things he tweets out every day at the same time yet like one after another every single all around like ten AM or so it's very early and so seven AM, stay hungry. Stay humble, okay. All right. Every day is a gift comes at seven. Oh one. And then seven oh, two is leadership and learning are indispensable to each other. I was drunk on life. So every minute those three minutes. Oh, let's go to Damian in bellmore Damien. What's happening Damian? Hello, boys. What's up doing? I'm good. I'm good. I just wanted to bring up CBS sports. You know, I have it on all day during work. So I had all the programs on nice. And you know, I watched as here knee and Brandon was going off yesterday about like a hypothetical way that he would be better than Mike on the air. And he would whip him and it was like full. He's got this whole egotistical thing. Like he kind of just let him from the lie yesterday. It was weird. Things going on radio. Hold on the time. It seems like yes. Brandon Tierney on Tiki and Tierney yesterday was talking about Mike francesa WFAN host and how he would beat him. If he was going against him like fight or in a file fight situation. It was just like, you know, like he like he was he was giving him praise for all his years. But he's like, oh, I'm definitely better on the radio personality with him. And I you know, I wouldn't. What really braggadocious? Now Tierney is a very he's a very cock shore. Man, like, that's the best way. I could describe would be. So unbelievably cuck shore like in everything that he does like when he takes a bite of a same wage when he opens up a door when he's he's like everything he's just exudes confidence. So it doesn't surprise me. But what was the entry point to this conversation with him and Tiki barber on the day the national championship game and Tiki Virginia Lum, and they're on a national radio show. How do they get him competing with Mike? I I really don't remember the Oregon. It was like, you know, they were just going back and forth. He's in a way. So it was a split screen. And he was just he was in radio Siberia by himself. I think I think all the nicer lady she didn't got him like egotistical. The room with them will. That's funny, man. That's awesome radio isolation. Siberia, well, they got into it big face to face those two years ago. Yes, they did. Yeah. And they were screaming, and it spilled it Eric spits his office. And he didn't know what to do when he was here. You don't remember this out they play along with about one? Let's go Tierney was interviewed. It was like, you know, that little thing in the post where it's like TV and radio five questions. Yeah. Right. So he was asked to five questions tyranny, and it, and he said something along the lines of I don't even want afternoons on WFAN. I don't even so something like that. And then Mike took that in some way slight about him. I don't know how and then Mike, you know, ROY turned into like, you know. You know, he sees done. That would be awesome here. Right. I tear, you know, because the Cuc shore man that he is not back down. He was good one. Nobody likes you. Short off putting. You know, it was just like back and forth. Like, you will get wicked. He Mike sewed up clown who's just back and forth going very separated. You know, just flying and insecurities the air. You know, it's just like unbelievable. But just the hijinks at the fan the fan. I just I couldn't leave like that. Like, I don't really like just don't understand people live like this. I'd love to hear this. Now. I don't know if anybody's got that audio, but I'd love to and how does this even come up on TV would have it wouldn't they? Yeah. I mean, I would assume so it was on. It was on that right up. You got to believe that somebody over at the radio has it. Yeah. You yeah. You would think. Yeah. No. I'd like to six per tree falls in a forest. I know that's the way it used to feel over. Here we go J C him pro river, JC what's out see? Hey, hey, boomer geo love you guys. Doing what's up not much wanna real try me? Real quick. I had a guy just came on about a here. Nian incessant twenty include let you guys know you didn't hear I happen to be watching yesterday. And it's all started out with the comments that Paul Pierce made in relation to join. Wade. Then of course, head was asking with asking Tierney, you know, comparing himself against these peers that's out came out. That's so far fict-. Thank you. Jesse cleared that up that's. Don't like isn't that such like, a talk show host thing. Like like, these two hall of fame basketball players now, I'm going to compare their situation to me what I can what was Paul Pierce thinking about. Anyway. I mean, why would you go after Dwayne Wade? Well, they set up. They asked him, right? Yeah. Exactly. They said who had a better career and sitting there, and he was like, listen if I would've played with this guy that guy who did I play with them beginning part of my career. I would have had these championships. That's what he said. He was a Braun Bosch prior to that shack. He's like I didn't have that only had that for short amount of time with with the big three in Boston. So so why he's defending himself? He had a great career people lost their minds over it. Because they thought it was the wrong time to do it. They should blame the producer on his show for asking him who had a better career, many wasn't. He was not at any point being disrespectful to the way, it came out and the way that social media just got caught on fire over the whole thing. You would have thought that in some way, shape or form? Paul Pierce was just totally ragging on. Right. Exactly. So that's what I thought. And then Gabriel union who of course is with the way with twain, wait. I don't know if they're married yet. You know, she tweeted out this whole thing with Paul Pierce. Why you hate not another main to prop yourself up? And I'm like, what did he say? So went and found the videos like, wow, this is a total over-reaction about it. He was just asked a question and gave an answer. And he just said, hey defending himself because I didn't get a chance to play with these hall of famers, right, right? Yep. Let's all right TJ in Woodbridge what's going on. Hey, what's going on guys? And then. Hey, I just remember specifically about Brandon Tierney. It was two years ago when he was it and before you got on and they did a moment of day segment, and it was the worst ever because he had no reaction. He was just like all right moment of the day. You know, you guys go crazy. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And remember when you say it was like you guys stare at each other. And you're like moment of the day. I remember that. But poor brand that was a day that was day he came in. And he was sweating and then Jean-Michel had died the day before. And he must've said stick about fifty times. I felt bad Brian blessed? I love Brandon actually, I think he's great on the CBS sports network on the on the top show, man. I can't believe on. I'm having to defend everybody here. We're all Steen and Tierney and everything this, and that was a tough spot, and I know about tough spots during that time because they come in here to why did that tough? I don't I'm trying to figure out. What was I that demanding that demands nothing to do? Appreciate it. Thank you. Right. I mean, you're you're a part of it. But way down the list on the list. Okay. No. I just know be how far there's. This is like never mind. I was going to say a kid. Was it that was a compliment because you make for a welcoming atmosphere, but I'm working with you is a little bit more intimidating than just any other person. Because you are who you are. But you are a welcoming person you make for a soft landing spot. But you're a part of that list of why it's intimidating but farther down the list is what I'm trying to say. That makes sense. Yeah. To Terry in Indiana, Terry. What's happening? Hey, what you guys did? I don't know where hanging out don't aren't thing. Yeah. I watched you about four times a week night in Indiana and the last four day it'd been hospital. Oh, gee, I had no clue that Chris Mullin lives mowing and around these head who or whatever that last night's game. If he thinks just a minute, he said announcer. Looking Nancy the other ones said about Mr. huge, whatever said what a transfer from Saint John's all the way to Rico wins. You're talking about. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Been Saint John's to hear to transfer, and I told my wife and the people around us I said, he'll quit in the next two week. He watches he let the air out of his double. And I didn't know if you guys caught that on there or not the end going I like the end with special. Thank you from the bottom of my family's heart murmur. The reason I've been at the hospital. My get a two year old grandson cystic fibrosis, and they said yesterday for jacket or he's going to have vast. It's time playing God bless you. Thank you. Thank you, Terry. Good. Good luck to your grandson. And. You know, listen, he's got a whole different life ahead of me. He's got a got a lot to look forward to. But as far as Chris Ballance concern to recons. I I don't know what happened there, do you know, what happened there? No. I mean, there's a graduate transfer and he left to end. I don't know anything but stuff that people assumed it sucks though, because they had so much talent on that team. And what did they miss this year in a big way defender, protect the rim. Yes. Because they were too small. Yeah. Yeah. So it was really unfortunate Jimmy in Long Island. Jimmy, what's happening, brother? Hey, doing I wonder if you can help me about my head around us. All right. All right. All of these scandals going on with the bribes for the colleges, right? Yep. People work hard to hold lies to paint these colleges for these kids to get in is it, right? I don't think. So of course, what if right? Get gates and decades of athletes who can't piss SAT forgery of grades and everything else using abilities allowing these colleges to make billions of dollars off them does not the same thing. We've you know. Well, I mean, I think. That one major difference is like so there is a unique skill with an athlete that's beneficial to the university right at some universities. Do have. Emissions allowances for certain kids that don't measure up, and then they have to support them when they get there. And because of all the money that is made they do have the academic sport to help them, right? As opposed to where all this person was on the crew team. And never was on the crew team. They've been athlete is good enough and provides that skill. Yes. That is an entry point for maybe someone who doesn't have that skill and that seems unfair. But it's a little bit different than straight up lying about things or buying your way in right? That's the thing that goes on here and doing it under the guise of giving a charitable donation and then writing off on your taxes. You're so Felicity Huffman, basically is going to. Plead guilty. She's out in front saying, look, and she gives this heartfelt sympathy letter and apology letter to everybody she's offended, including her child. And I kind of get I think I appreciate what she's trying to do here. Trying to get out in front of it and try to mitigate the circus. You know, the the penalty that she's going to get and I think she's being very smart about it. I don't know what the hell is going to go on with Lori Laughlin that her daughter is basically telling everybody that her parents are guilty, by the way, she's reacting to all this. Yeah. Rough spot but girl scam chocking eats the morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo got Jerry back. I got your pastry over here. Al if you'd like your pastry. Mentioned before of the Gregory's coffee guy was going to give us a pastry. We got more than that. But here you go. Here's pastry. You can bring that in there. That's a lot of pastries its entire box of patient. As a coconut doughnut and something else. I like coconut. Oh, yeah. I could try that. All right, there, you go wasn't aware of that was on the menu. Sarthe? Here you go. There's no cookie I'm gonna go. Oh, jesus. I don't wanna touch it by your hands. Put it the box. I listened just washed my hands in the box. Where were you during your hand? Because doozy just went to the bathroom. I did watch. There's another one in that leaving the box. Guys. Sounds good. Just so what do you think's going to happen to you? So this is cool and all but no chocolate. Chip cookie. He worked for right? That's what you want it right chocolate. Chip cookie. Anything yet? Sorry hell outta here. So I do have some audio for you and context. Yeah. Mean I could just play audio without the context, but having that would be rude. We're brought to you by two by London. Visit the engagement experts at Americana manhasset, east Hampton, and Westfield World Trade Center, so Virginia one we'll get to that in a minute. So you had to call her the talked about the Brandon Tierney audio from the Tiki and Tierney show yesterday, and maybe TV can get it while I went and found if okay nice, also here's the context Tiki is talking about they bring up coming out of a break the Paul Pierce. Dwayne Wade story about here's believing that he had the better career than wait. Okay. We know about that story from last week. So Tiki was trying to bring it back in terms of self confidence. Like, what is he supposed to say kind of like boomer, you should think you a better quarterback than Sean Salisbury? Whoever. I'm just throwing out a name. The reference. Top wish right, whatever boy whatnot. Mario montana. Okay. Fair enough. So it was all about self confidence. And so here's how the comparison when I had to edit a little bit because it was the end of a half hour, but you'll get the point. Okay. Let me ask you this though, BT I wanted to ask you directly. How do you pay your career to whoever? Like really anyone anyone? How do I position my career against Mike francesa? No, no, no. No. No. No, no. I'm talking about. Mike. All right. That's fine to me that confidence. And then they come back to it a little while later because Tiki says no really talking more at and then they were thinking about it because all right? So in your business in your field. And this is where if you just hear this what doesn't sound great. But here's what Brandon Saad francesa is truly the king. But and I'm not just saying this if you put me on the radio, and I go head to head with Mike, and he doesn't have the reputation I believe I would destroy Mike. He's I believe four more interesting and far more energetic and better, and and certainly more diverse. And so the whole point was if you're going to do this you better be self-confident. What what you're do how sure cocksure word for specially for him and everything that he does. So I could totally see if you turn on the TV. And that's what you hear. This does actually all right. That was the audio. It makes more sense. Now heard heard that contact you still went in. I mean, he did not just dance around it. He went in more diverse, more energetic. More interesting. I mean, my good you certainly said some things there. Yeah. But that was the audio and there might be more. I don't know. I ran out of time listening to it. So mentioned Virginia did win the national championship. A big player in this night was the Andrei hunter a huge game-tying three late in the second half. And then in overtime hunter shooting a three over the soda. This. And it gets back on topic. So. So you guys as. Let's Kevin coupons. Ask you question. I I don't know why I guess I don't know enough about Texas Tech to know this. But I always felt like their strength was their men men defense and they got into the zone, and that's one hundred just basically went crazy now the one that he hit at the end of regulation to tie it. I think that was man-to-man defense in Culver drop them for whatever reason to try to stop look -tuation. Yeah. He looked confused there. I don't know why didn't close out on that three. He looked a little bit loss. They'd it's confusing because where else are you going to go because he's got another teammate to his right? And he's sort of like goes, right? A little bit. And I don't know why doesn't just sprint down on that three. You know, what's great about that? But to go play from the Virginia standpoint is that tied Jerome could take that right to the hoop and laid it in and got it to right? But instead he sees hunters man leave him Culver leave him. And that's the quarter weirdness that whereas. About earlier this morning that Jerome had. And that kid made so many good moves in decisions last night. He's a local kid the August this last night tide Jerome eighty five seventy seven was the final scores. Virginia Wednesday, go thirty five in three on the season. Here was hunter on CBS as champion missile. Ru is a goal. We set out at the beginning of the season. We knew we were going back from last year. And we achieved our dreams when they lost in the first round last year to a sixteen seed, here's Tony Bennett their head coach hunter was simply amazing. That was a great to way performance defensively and offense in this game in this setting. And he saved his best for last. And that tells you there's something in that young man, and he's got more. He scratching the surface man for critic seven hundred and thirty pounds. And I look it looks like he's well built. I mean, he's the same height Zion Williamson, but fifty pounds lighter. Here is Chris beard tech head coach had a chance to come down to one last possession. And it did and regulation and in overtime. It just got away from us a little. But nothing but respect for their program, and he really did with Tracy Wolfson on CBS was gushing about Virginia. And Tony's question. Would you take in the draft? If let's say you're the next on your fall to four are you taking call over. Or are you taking hunter were you taking Cam British from Duke? Throw up those straws out. I don't know. What do you think? I'd say that again, if you're if you're over there eating or something all of a sudden, but if you're the Knicks and you fall for you don't get the one of the top three spots. That means you'll have hunter they're most likely Culver. We'll be there. And I Cam reddish. We'll be there. I don't know. Culver was not great last night. Hunter was reddish was someone that had more hype going into the season. I I'm thinking hunter right after what I saw last night now hunters a sophomore and he's twenty one years. So he'll be twenty two years old at this means anything culverts a sophomore as well. And reddish a freshman so all about the same age. Yeah. I dunno reddish had a little bit of this. I mean, that's the Andrea hunter look good less. Then he not look good. I mean, you do whatever he wanted on the basketball court. One other note from college basketball on certainly it's of local interests with Saint John's and Chris Mullin likely to step down after four years, something you guys have covered all morning long Astros Yankees last night in Houston and the Astros got one run on the board on Masahiro Tanaka, and it was a long home run from Jose altuve, and that was pretty much it you Tanaka throw six good innings got out of a jam in the six, and then he was done left with a three one lead. Unfortunately for him in the Yanks the bullpen could not hold believe or is acts one one swung high in the air to deep right center field Gardner back way back and it's all to store to tie the game. Torino's the second with a double tied the game at three in the seven, John sterling. Zach Britain struggled there at amount of you know, in the eighth would give up a Carlos Correa. Go ahead infield RBI single gave the Astros the fourth relief and four three was the final Yankees. Go down one two three in the ninth though. Aaron judge today line drive, but it did not go over the wall. Like they needed four three the final score. Here was Aaron Boone did you think about leaving Tanaka in for the seventh couple on? Yeah. And working hard in the fourth. We're pretty convicted on that was it. He says Tanaka that is the Astros are starting to figure me out. They were starting to just so obviously, that's why I guess that ending was a little bit harder on me. That's translator. Of course. Here's more boon. He says, you know, what we got the ver- Lander a little bit just not enough. We couldn't quite breakthrough. And really, you know, break it open. But we we did a good job of making it real hard on them. Obviously getting them out of there with the lead six in three months for the no decision. Here's that Britain mid some that pitches early on, especially. To create a start dating. Oh to to guy got to put away you get that. I out that ends a whole lot different. And then there's out of you know, what can you do in the infield? Put it in a wreck in a great spot. Obviously, I think maybe I could have played the ball, but it was kind of no man's land. And they wound up scoring the runs of that series will continue tonight this time, it'll be an eight ten start. We'll have it on the fan at seven thirty Jonathan Lewa got taking on Garrett. Cole Luis Severino being reevaluated with the shoulder. I guess we'll call it not want to call it just as feel right? So he's not all the way back yet. And we'll see where that goes Mets home for the twins. Jacob degrom looking to extend his scoreless inning streak. He takes on Kyle Gibson. That's on WCBS. Eight eighty also from baseball. Oh one. Oh, two three four five. Oh for five for Chris Davis last night. Oh for his last forty nine. But the Orioles beat the as twelve four the oh for forty nine. And we'll over forty seven set a new record that record now at forty nine hitless at bats for Davis. Mariners mash the royals thirteen five couple of home runs in one inning. Fred. Here's Mariners manage your Scott service. Thirty two homers and twelve game. So far. Awesome. And put it off -fensive role. We are on right now. Guys, don't lit up, man. Not too bad. They're ten and two to start the season pretty impressive. They're also the Phillies are seven and two. Is they beat the nationals four three two runs for res Hoskins Oduber, Harare, a two run Homer. And the angels beat the brewers five to two five to two in this game. So Christian yelich makes a diving catch out in the outfield early part of the game. Then you've got Mike trout with yellowish at the plate trout in the outfield. This doubt towards sadder tasting trout back. Tracking goes leaps up. God. It'd be peas doing MVP things tonight. Christian yelich outstanding play Mike trout this same over the wall. Takes a home run away. Angels wound up winning the game. Let's still a and Simmons all hitting home runs. They're also of note, the raise beat the White Sox five to one Blake's. Now six innings. He struck out eleven cubs over the pirates ten to nothing and Packers quarterback. Aaron Rodgers spoke on a radio station in Wisconsin about the Bleacher report article that basically said he had no leadership and the relationship with Mike McCarthy all that stuff wasn't good. He defended McCarthy said fence should respect him and shake his hand, if they see him in the streets, and he's still lives in Green Bay and also went after Greg Jennings and who's the Mike Linley for the comments and the quotes that they gave about him not being a leader. And so you have there with Rogers. There's a playoff pep rally. Coming up for the nets. Really? Yeah. We'll get us on Thursday, April eleventh and a loser. And. Three hundred twenty students from PS one thirty five the Brooklyn nets with the Brooklyn. Nets like any t t s right team hype nets announcer, Olivier Sedra and Brandon Bassett or Joey badass Joey badass, Joey badass will be there. Who is the brand ambassador had also be at PS one thirty five huge in Brooklyn in on Thursday from nine to ten AM. You put Joey be up bad. S comes right up. Yeah. The brand ambassador Joey bed s I'd love to see Evans out. He's a singer. Oh is he yes? Joey badass stick my hands down. My oh, tell you when I think about it too. He spells bad ass. Be a DA, right. Dollar signed. Also who will be there is Evan lay mass. Well, if you'd like to get a picture with them. That sounds perfect. A bad acid Lamey. All right, boomer and GIO van CBS sports network. Congrats have been nets. I don't believe you can be by people to. I mean, it's going to elementary school. I mean, can you play the music now? Maybe I have to see it. It's I don't know. It's I don't know is bad one word to ask the second. It's all one word. The dollar signs, but the A S S or all capital, right? Well, the yes, the SS or two dollars. But. What are they put ball dead as? Joey. Bad as pep rally. Brooklyn nets Joey bed aspirin ambassador bed as. Bad ass will be in Morrison Colorado next week. Really? Yes. Okay. Have you ever been there to red rock yet? I have not all right. It's the morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo Virginia national champions are talking about that all morning with the replay review Severino in the Yankees bad day for them yesterday. Should've won that game. We Severino with another MRI. We will await those results and see if there is surgery awaiting in or not we are off CBS sports network. They're doing some masters coverage early masters coverage all week. So I think we're going to be off at nine o'clock every day on CBS sports. I for this week is that right Thursday and Friday, we're off at eight thirty. Oh, gee, oh, really cut. Not be here on Friday, really, cutting it hadn't Lake Placid, boys. Oh. Hockey tournament. Yep. Like, I feel liberated right now. I haven't been off television doing a radio show in a while. I feel like I want to take my shirt off or something. Why don't you know? One of those coconut balls that they left over the buckwheat ball, whatever. Yeah. I did have a buckwheat ball to buckwheat Bill. Well, it's pretty tasty. Right. Yeah. I enjoyed that. I mean, it's it's a little bit a little bit healthier than the other pastries that came along with the Gregory's coffee. But yeah, I mean buckwheat ball. It's like a munchkin, but dense. Yeah is filled with protein fills you up got some buckwheat in there as per the name. Right. And and there you go. So I'm sorry to break it to you bloomer. But. Is Duane Haskins. Love affair, I yelled at you. You were right about the Patrick Mahomes thing, right? And you can gloat about that from now until the end of time. But this Dwayne Haskins thing you're way off base. Okay. You're way off base because Peter King Peter King. He came out. And did a, hey, yes. Him came out and said Dwayne Haskins dropping like a rock. I hate this. I hate stuff like this for these kids. And I hate when everybody's talking about what their shortcomings are in. You know, why they can't make it here? Or why this guy doesn't like this guy at the end of the day. What I see is. I see a six foot three two hundred and thirty pounds seventy percent completion percentage of fifty touchdown player at a major college at stands in the pocket. Fourth quarterback, take it. Okay. Why? Because he does it meet a K. I thought the idea was to stay in the pocket, right? Sinking men. Listen, if you want to sync with them, you can't know. On you a life jacket? Right. I'm not no. I am not often him at all man. I'm just telling you. I would like the giants the draft him. But at the giants don't draft him. They better get themselves a young quarterback or trade for Josh Rosen. They might be able to get them in the second round. Yeah. Maybe even third with the way that he's saying pending where in the third round. Maybe if they got kids should be New York giant quarterback. And I just think I think the world of the kid now, I have not met him and Peter King is saying that he is pitas camping because I just want to hear the quotes second to give you the whole they'll give you the quote here. All right. Yes. From from Peter King. He goes. In fact, I keep hearing Dwayne Haskins is sinking. And maybe the fourth passer picked in this draft pick 'em somebody. Who sunk I know what it feels like to be called out like this. It's not who else sunk Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Right. And I would also say that homes in his own mind. Probably felt like he sunk, you know, but I, you know, all I know is what I see on the field. And I see a kid that can make every throw. I saw watched his pro day. Look great is it because of something else that's going on whether it be his board work or whatever. I don't know every I don't know. But my my thing is I just I look at the performance on the field that I look at the performance in big games. I'll look at the performance when the team is behind all of those things he checks off all of those proverbial boxes that you need to check off. And then when I hear about what is headmaster from the bullet school says his high school coach says opposing high school coaches say about the young man the fact that the kid wanted to go to Maryland. But then ended up saying, you know, what I'm going to go play for urban Meyer urban Meyer had think differently about his offense with a kid like this stuff. It's this is all in the past. And we're talking about we're talking about. NFL value. A reason why I want the kid I'll find more reasons why I want him as opposed to looking for reasons, why don't want them. Well, listen he is sinking. And you have to come to this really, maybe Peter King may feel that way. But I don't feel that way. He's he doesn't feel that way. He keeps hearing that. He keeps Healy saying here's what I hope. I hope the giants quarterback, right? I'd love to take twain Haskins. I've been on him since January second I've been all over this kid, and he's gonna end up somewhere. I hope he ends up in a good spot. But if he ends up with the Redskins that would be awesome. Because then we'll get to see him twice every year against the giants. So he thinks that Peter King does that the giants should take drew lock at number six overall. He's always got the arm town. You don't seem to be high in as other guys Murray. Locked Jones, you don't seem to be high. It's just Hasek's. I mean, you've got is for one man in one man only, and that's the Wayne Haskins. So if the giants were to take one. Of these other guys. Now last year, the reason I bring this up last year you liked all those guys. Yeah. You like darnold. You like Mayfield. You love. Josh Allen did. So I feel the same way. Now, Josh Allen was a little bit different. Because he was six foot five he's two hundred and forty five pounds. He ran like a four seven forty and you knew he was just like a bona China shop that it was going to take time to kind of just reform him a little bit and get him used to playing in the NFL. And fortunately enough he was able to play last year, which I think is going to have a big pay big dividends for him this year much like it will for Baker Mayfield and for Sam darnold, and I'd like to think the same thing for Josh Rosen, depending on where he ends up on saying is that I would love the giants to take Haskins 'cause I like to see him for the next ten to twelve years. But if he's not here, they need to take somebody. I mean passing again on a quarterback again, they did take one last year. I mean, I mean legitimately come on. Now this kid Daniel Jones, he ran a four six five four seven forty. Cares about a six foot four kid. He played for coach cliff down there. Who's a manning guy? I don't know. I could see that. Maybe I don't know. But. I'm I'm not shocked that you read all these things even last year the night before the draft supposedly, you know, or not supposedly. But Josh Allen tweeted, something of what racial out or something. It was a kid. He did that that was all of a sudden that came out the night before the draft right at like did that affect the decision making for Cleveland? Did it? Yeah. I mean, I just it's okay. You know, you can't hit you can't Batu thousand on these things, boomer. That's okay. I'm giving you the opportunity to hop off. A hats on not hopping off man, I'm not once I'm in. I'm in I'm committed the lifeboat is here I'm committed. The captain is here and hundred percent committed and I'm pulling up to a sinking boomer who's Dwayne Haskins dragging him down to the bottom and giants get Dr Haskins poll. I don't think so. Traded with the Redskins. And then the Redskins got twain Haskins at number three. That would be amazing. Wow. I need you. I don't know why you are so hell bent on certain guys. What you've been right about most of them. Yes. So you have to I'd like to feel like my string. And my my critique will continue. I will say that. I did have inside information on one Carson Wentz. Okay. I had very inside information on him. All right. And what about Patrick Mahomes was there inside information on Patrick Mahomes? No that was just a feel was a smell that was just watching his tapes. And then getting the chance to meet the young men and knowing that being around his dad and being around the Mets, and the, you know, the baseball diamond shag and fly balls what he's six years old that kids mean that tells me that that kid is been exposed to all of that stuff. I mean, just Wayne Haskins know that you love him so much because he might now seeing these reports he might need you to boost himself back. Yup. I don't this is another one of these things where if we got him in here. This would be a whole big Dwayne Haskins coercion. I would say this. I would say you. I still am seeing so much more positive reported about the kid. It's just that every now and then when a negative comes up it makes the headline because it's going against its bucking the trend. He's not going after seeing him at the pro day. The giants get a draft Haskins poll. I don't think so. All right. Thanks, man. Gary in New York, Gary what's happening, brother? Boomer. Scary b I watched my my daughter's senior at Ohio State. Yes. Ever since the very beginning. When I saw Zeke Elliott like lacking. Like unbelievable. I swat guys amazing. But watching J T Barrett. You know, good player. Nice moves very fast running a lot. Then go he graduates and half. And this guy's in there. And we so slow he can't run. And then he starts throwing the ball. And he's fell in the pool. And you, you know, he was you know, and I got used to at first I wasn't used to that Spain taste of the game. So she was terrific to one game that you probably remember is when they play in Maryland, and they will little lucky to win that game. They weren't. But you know, what you you know, you create your own lock. And the fact that you went to school at Maryland. And almost almost went to the university of Maryland and had that comeback the way played was awesome. He was great in the Rose Bowl too. My thing is gut saquon Barkley to run the freaking football Manning's not running the football. I don't want to hear about it. You know, non movement quarterback suggestions have had one for twelve thirteen fourteen while they need a guy who can move. Now. They can't have another statue in there. Yeah. I don't wanna hear that guy would ankle weights on sitting back there in a pocket. That's what they need. The guy's got a little bit of pep in his step, man. Let's go. That's what I still see a lot of positive things about Dwayne Haskins. A lot of people writing them every now, and then you're going to hear a negative thing. I get it and Peter kings are very well established and respected reporter that covers the NFL, and he'll tell you what people are telling him Peter King. So it's not his perspective. It's he's telling you what he's hearing from other pe-, which is worse. I think which I think is too. But I also I also know that there's a lot of people that probably put a little smokeout there as well. Oh you. So you think that there's a team wants to take Haskins in the top ten you. Remember? There was a team that wanted to go up and get Mitch. Trubisky. That happens to be the Chicago Bears, and they moved up one spot to make sure they got the guy that they wanted. This could be somebody that's going to be in love with each one of these kids and somebody will come up most likely and get him. Well, maybe and you mentioned this before. But maybe if Haskins does slip the giants can get him it's seventeen and then take their edge rusher slip in that for. He might be the fourth quarterback taken said, Peter. Yeah. I don't believe he's giving three quarterbacks before seventeenth. I do not believe that. So you think that there's no as the fourth pass. I don't they. I definitely the second. I don't think I don't think. Either. Here lock are going to get past Denver. And then he or locker get past Washington. If they stay where they are right now. And then there's Miami in the mix too. Don't forget about them. But are the giants get draft a quarterback pill? Oh. Listen, it's going to be twain Haskins. Maybe second round for the giants. What number do they have it seventeen? It's not on the second round. I said, hi pickers. Let's see. It's too bad that the af is gone. Just in case it doesn't work out for Haskins. It's not a landing spot there. Yeah. Okay. The exit XFL you. Next. Yeah. I guess the world league of American football still thing. I, you know, I don't know. So the giants have six seventeen thirty seventy seven six that's the one thirty seven. That's where he's going to go. So that's what ghetto men can do is. He'll be dropping like a rock, and it'll be like cement shoes. Sure right to the bottom. Sure. And then six you can go to edge rusher. Seventeen. You can go hog Molly bright and then get them. It'll be like, oh, man. Asking still there kinda don't want to do it because he lies great. And boy, he just looks awesome. And all this tape that I see him. But I'll take Wayne hats because we never thought he'd be here at thirty seven. Yes. That's the way it's going to go. I got it. Right. I hear you. Sorry isn't working out for you, man. Hey. I really am. I feel for you. It hasn't happened yet. So don't worry about. Oh, it's happened. Peter King knows you talk to me on draft day. And then I try to but you don't want to do the show with me right now, the toss around all sorts of names for me to co host with. I said I wanted to do a draft show. I thought we we're going to do a draft show together the Yankees are on. Yeah. We're going to do it on a damn where by the way. Yeah. Good luck sixteen days until the draft sixteen days. So Dwayne Haskins drops like a rock gets a little chip on his show that maybe he'll do it with you. Boom. I've heard. A couple of names have not heard brand in a couple of names. I heard my old partner Brian Jones who hasn't done a show since he left. They're going to dust him off. There you go. And then Amy Lawrence was the other one that I heard so those are the two that have been banded about. But on the in. I said I'd do a draft show. I just don't really disappointing that that former doesn't want to do with me if he thinks boomer is gonna do it. She being sure course. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. She do twenty four hours straight with fomer for free. Who wouldn't honestly, you know? When they offered me the job. I was like listen this whole contracting. No worry about it. Let's just do it for free just. Yes. All right, boomer and geo on the fan CBS sports network eats the morning show with Boomer Esiason in Gregg giannotti, boomer and geo Jerry Recco. Back with us. What's going on, Jerry? All right. Well, Greg brought to you by the raycatena auto group, schedule an appointment today to wake at tina's service center. I bus service at affordable prices, I found bad s. Oh, you did. I went and got dad's. Yeah. I got you some Joey, and we'll have more of this coming up in just a couple of minutes. Oh can imagine for people who don't know. I had this place in front of me because we are the flagship station for the Brooklyn nets and they're going to the playoffs. Right. So they're having a pep rally. The nets on Thursday pro eleventh and a bunch of students from PS one thirty five in Brooklyn and the Brooklyn nets. That's very conclusive clinics. The brooke. Klin? That's that's the way you say team hype the nets announcer, and then brand ambassador Joey bed s is there. So we didn't know much about oh, Mr. bad ass. So Jerry has found some of that's a couple of songs. I got for you one has on YouTube fifty million plays or something like, wow, there's a bunch of different guys named bad ass though. Joey bada. Oh, you that. Okay. Good. There are multiple Joey bettas data. I'm not sure I just googled bad s. Okay. This song is called devastated. Okay. This seems pretty pod. Then nets. Visit. This. This is Joey Bennett. Each day. Cheesecake. Trying to seize and swim. No, no, that's nothing. No. The name. But this was this had fifty million. He's huge. Sect of sex. Gave it to me. Fan sites like mass. I mike. Joey badass lay mass. Yeah. Grabber kids. Love this music grabbing guns stuff like that tremendous Jerry on Spotify that I played devastated. One hundred seventy nine million or you go dreams. Very popular. Yeah. That one I knew that second one. I'd never heard that first one that devastated on YouTube and more views in the first one, then devastated curses in gun reference. Well, yeah. Sale. Yeah. Very anyhow Virginia's your national champion. They'd be Texas taking overtime eighty five to seven joy that kids. We still go with this any. Really bothered any for some reason. Usually don't care about the the children's well-being. You're not the guy who's looking out for the kids. But right now, you are what if they love Joey badass the kids will be so excited to PS one thirty five that as. Minka Carino and cap straw, their kids that that'd be exciting. What if that telephone instructor hates our guts, if she's going to be I wish she was a Brooklyn it, right? Yeah. Right. Allie. Love who can't stand us. Andre hunter big game for him twenty seven points career-best game-tying three late in this game. And then in overtime at the go ahead three as they pull away and win by eight thirty five and three on the season. Here was the one hundred afterwards. Can you describe the feeling of being champ? This goal we set out to begin at a season. We knew we're going back from us here. We achieved our dreams was tied your own can you describe it? I can't I can't and this more than ever to share with this group of guys, and these coaches and this whole program. It's a dream come true for sixteen point six rebounds, eight assists. Tremendous all around game. Kyle guy adding twenty four here was Tony Bennett with Jim Nansen CBS talking about the message gives to his team when they come into the office to start the year come into office. I got a poster Iraqi on the steps I said, I just wanna chance at a title fight one day. That's all we want. And these guys came to. Fighting this title in our the chance and now they are the champs indeed. And then lastly, Jared Kover of Texas Tex go pro now that is over the decision still to be made the all season. I'll just focus on my team. And I imagine that decision we made relatively quickly. But that's it. The college basketball season comes to an end last night in Minneapolis Saint John's season came to an end losing that plane game of the tournament few weeks ago and the news last night and into this morning that Chris Mullin expected to step down after four years on the job baseball. The Yankees took on the Astros on the road in Huston had themselves three one lead Masahiro Tanaka left with that lead and the bullpen basically Britain and Adam out of vino gave it out. Deep right center field Gardner back a way back and it's all to scored a tie game. Sereno second with double three three. Then in the eighth. Houston would take the lead for good. And it'll be an one career. And it said weekly on the ground to. No one no one there. Based on birth fielded it, but he had no play. That's because he didn't get over to cover first base. But the run those score regardless four three Astros. Take the lead beat the Anki by that for three scores. Aaron Boone bullpen, not always gonna be awesome. Unfortunately today, they got to Brit. You know, that's gonna happen. Every now, and again here is Aaron judge says, you can't think too long about this tough. No move on and win the mall. Here's Adamawa vino not covering I on the good sense of where the runner was on third. So just kind of got out of the way regrettably a little bit now. Of ODA Reno Reno what it Tabo tell me how to go about pronouncing venos- last name. He thought his was out of that was legit. Yeah. I guess. So I thought it wasn't at first. But now he's out of knows last name. So he thought his first name on a vino on contain VM the very expensive relief pitcher Brian on God. What? Vino shit about all command coming out of the pen with on this Chapman with Zang Britomart? And he. Another man than Brian Cashman brought in a very expensive. And in the year prior Jean Carlos. He came. Also reno. Let tino. Tone the Tino joins us now. Paul is Dwayne has drop in like a rock. As. It's paulie I'm the spot. Wow. Boy, great joy in delivering that answer this morning. That was the the most Schorr fired answer he is ever given us. That's not true. I think the giants thinking quarterback Paul. No question this. What was like? Oh, yeah. He is here. He said it was mile hitter. King is saying is that he must be cane. He sure is Jack ass a word that he didn't. He implied something there with that one by the way, something to investigate and I'm did you see him BS today. Put marash on. I know he's producer. Yeah. Okay. About Joey Waller got married for the weekend here about this. Yeah. Marash and Jay Berman update anchor over there like they gave speeches so Joey clearly, no friends, but that's fine. Just look into the Berman one. Apparently, it was cringe cringe-worthy, and he should have just gotten up. Really? He was so bad at the speech. That was now why were they has to give speeches they in the wedding party or something? Apparently, there was no wedding party. Sean, it was just ten minutes lovely bride getting married to Castres. Maybe they can get up and say something and marash killed. Of course, he did. Appreciate our low key wedding. But then J J issues just look into it. And then decide if you'd like to go forward discussing. Jay is a stream. You could say that. So you ain't but he's tonight. Jonathan low is to taking on Garrett. Cole eleven on the fan at seven thirty Luis Severino being checked out because he still doesn't feel right with the shoulder. So he will get an MRI reevaluated by team doctors. Jacob degrom on the mount tonight taking on Kyle Gibson Mets and twins. You CBS eighty also of note Chris Davis for five he's for twenty eight this season for forty-nine going back to last season sets new record for futility on a night with the Orioles actually twelve runs and they beat the as twelve four. Here's his manager Brandon. Hi, hit three bowls in the nose and for three Beth, really good. So I'm taking that as a positive moving forward. How about the defense? He played right. Mid diving a couple of really nice place. So we help us help us win. The game did help them win the game. You just can't buy himself a base hit right now. And then you had the Mariners. They were in Kansas City. They beat the royals thirteen five Edwin Encarnacion continues for this team to mash you'll one swaying clobbered high field. Tell left here at coffin. He has Homer twice and a six errors now lead. It twelve to four radio with the call a couple of home runs in one inning. And the Mariners go to ten and two on the season. And their first twelve games Phillies. Beat the nationals four three couple of home. Runs for Reese Hoskins. Angels beat the brewers the Padres over the giant six five in a game Stanford school at five nothing n Madison. Bumgarner was pitching cubs. Beat the pirates tend to nothing although John Lester suffer a hamstring injury in that game. And the raise beat the White Sox five one other good start for Blake Snell, six innings struck out eleven Nixon Chicago tonight. The nets will wrap up things tomorrow before the playoffs and Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers as you did and your CBS sports minute. And I guess you have part two coming up later this hour about Rogers, and what's going on there? And the Bleacher report story from last week time now, which will bring it full circle for moment of the day. Brought to you by Resorts World casino in queens with over six thousand games this NYC roles. Take it back to the nets. 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Episode 72 - Let Me Be Great with Josh Christopher

The No Chill Podcast

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Episode 72 - Let Me Be Great with Josh Christopher

"Misstep a soda, the show podcast joined by one of the most sensationally talented players of his era Josh Krista. Top rated super skilled incoming freshmen headed to Arizona State. Only the isn't planning on staying there long Josh. has all the tools inability to early making? For the kid that goes by Jacob. He's not only looking to make it. He's working to be great. As guilty. Wanting to be an Alzheimer means you're already on your way there? At this point building on a solid foundation over the next year we'll get josh pine for the jump. Also as Kelly. Kid Josh is made to shine when he gets there. If you haven't seen Josh get familiar and get ready to watch a few more. Arizona State Games next year. It's a no show podcast. Remember you can get every episode as soon as they come out on the me APP wherever you get your podcast, also be sure to check out the video version on no chill YouTube channel and don't forget every Monday eight PM Eastern no-show with Gilbert Arenas on Fubo TV. Welcome back to know chill with Gilbert. Arenas I'm Mike Fellow. He is Gilbert Arenas. Gilbert still don't even know your last name though. You just amazed that it's Italian. Is Somewhat to be some things never. And today we have Josh Christopher. Literally in the House wearing Gilbert's out. Different Times but welcome to the show. So we got, we got something to get into here. Gill, but before we do, let's go through Josh's resume. You're a five star. Recruit incoming to Arizona State. You're at Mayfair here in Lakewood California Senior Season Stats Gill Twenty nine point two points per game eight rebounds, three point nine assists in three point one steals. We've. been here. Had Layoffs in there. You guys went to. Semi finals and then. Corona happened in the. I finished my season. We lost, and now we love you. We lost in the semis. But yeah, our season. In, early before corrupt champions this year. Except for regionals regionals, Yeh. Southern section reasons they do that. I would know nothing about none and. First round and that was out. Would you be your first round. Pick what you would know Gill. And what I wanted to get into Arizona, state I know I, know I was like man who? To Air Zone, stay, Russell He. Yeah, we talked about where you're going. You didn't really say anything and I. Just kind of knew there was something boiling underneath this. So what are you gotTa to say? Sunday listen listen I. mean the be honest. Rival they sucked well. We I mean they had any housing, but we just smashed on them. So it wasn't really competition for us to actually be rivals with our rivals with Stanford, you know that was pretty much it other than that going be able to do much to detain us. Nobody wants to be it's. True. We used to drive up the you all the time. Fleet is the spot. Went into decisions. For for one I wanted to again. He's a sophomore there so to be able to reunite with him. Bobby Hurley. That's guard you. you know they pushed the pace. I do well and like the fast break transition. The faster we're planning and more possessions get. Scored a Baltimore on the board And then I think it will just be fun to be closer to home I don't want to go too far. McAleese kids I didn't want to go somewhere or the east coast and be homesick, so being comfortable is important to me as well. That's the does a smart decision. Always ass. CATIS KS. What made you go to that school neighbor? And then you said it style. More possessions means everyone gets the eat. Everyone looks good. Everyone has a chance you know. To make it, and that's when your style is up and down. That's exactly the type of systems. You WANNA BE WANNA be in some have court system just because you know they. They've got this name on them. Not that doesn't fit my style. I'm going to get lost in a short and also the fact that you said that you picked because of the style of play and you named everything that has to do with was going to make you look great. As. Hard. I think I made the right well. He's a Kelly kid, so SC UCLA. I know they were options. With you know. I I wouldn't. I wouldn't go to another school in the PAC twelve with my brother being an issue like that. I wasn't going to do that. That's weird. Luke could go the other way rivals. It's hard. It's hard to get a west coast kid to really leave. The West is saying you can't put me in, California. They want me to go. Somewhere far where snowing. Look. Like people don't understand that's that's a real thing that west coast kids there rather go to Fresno little schools here before they goal. East Coast even Arizona's pretty much west coast. Cool Western. That's it's not on the coast. Like Kelly minded beach, maybe a little hotter with. Same Lakes right, but also you touched on the important factors, a coach to the you want to know the program that you're going into. I would think that any coach you tell you come here. You get the ball more. We'll play your style game. Not always the case. That, is usually you know. Parent has the see through because you know if you're five star, they're gonNA. Tell you whatever you want to hear. You know what I mean. They're going to tell you that. All you do just look at the system like. Is this really going to change his whole system? Just for me, we be in a one and done or to like really going to do it. No, you gotTA, Watch. You gotTa Watch for yourself and see how they play? How many plays Gopher digital shooting guard is it a guard offense as a big man? You gotTa really pay attention instead of just looking at okay I want this name I want it's. Like. I told. You. Even though I hate Duke. Go to do what pros. What pro success have those guys actually had? Like Kyrie. Irving by himself tops. Every Duke played has ever been here in the all-star game. If you take out grant hill, there's not the other ninety five players. Don't have more. All Star Games in him. That's that's says a lot like no matter what names you get whatever you're doing for those. Nine. Ten months in college does not translate an NBA for some reason. You know those types of things I. Look at you know when I'm looking at you know colleges like. For your skill said who what what type of players are generating and when they transfer. How does that game transfer because she's eight months of a game? Can really you know? Really hurt you or make you all right? First of all he hits, do so. Tab. Why Well the thing about do. I think they have coach. K. has progressed to where you think some of the guys that he had trash Jason. Tatum has made me and that's my Gosh I know he is this through match. It Zaim it made also getting. I'm just saying, but look look at this wave. That's coming pretty much. You probably say since Kyrie. Ours. Future Stars, no all stars already trust me. I didn't do the research I. Know You didn't because again you? He'd do, but the point is you look at Duke and then a program like Kentucky which I would say just a major feeder for the NBA. It also depends on what kiss come from. Like. If you look at all stars in. All NBA players. There West Coast cates for the most part we eighty percent do so wet, so the West Coast produce the most NBA players. They produced the better of the. then. You have Chicago, fallen second. Jersey overtook New York. Got Atlanta Boys. You got the DMV. TORONTO DMV over land at this point. Different to look at the list you got all Georgia. You got all the country country. Bama's. Kelly has all around game because the weather, so we can play outdoors indoors. We can long around versus everyone else, so you were Calico when you're counting men now I. Guess We call you. are you at this point? Just like. Part December call you. Know. You're getting? You know. When they would call you. Online they call it an uncle snoop. Someone called me. What's on? The news like if he's. He's in his fifties but I. don't think your own. Category maybe but your kid as a calculus. What is that like? Speak to that? I mean I can. How can put on some pants like here's an east coast new. ME. On that's that's the base they we just had a swag like we have that extra sway I could walk into a June. I could wear. A chain could have a smile on my face and then still come dog. And they're going to have a problem with Kelly. We don't really care we do it. We weren't we play. We go home I fly. It makes other people were mad. I feel like that nausea. Character about Kelly kids like. That swag was onto what confidence? Another way saying that so, but it's over the top confidence. But on the basketball court doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. If you shorts up, you know rolled up high so much talent is so much talent here that when you get to the top of that, you know you are at the top so when you go east coast, they might be grimy. And Eighty, all fears, but when it comes just natural talent even better. Around and We were talking earlier today about timberlake like you don't see TIM's out here in La. LA, so fans, we're. Big boots back nineties that was it was just a different basketball. I know you, but new. York players. Guys coming from near Marbury Sham. Still wear boots. Yeah, for sure knew we don't. We're no boots and much. Of Ninety five hundred. Put your finger on the mindset of like the East Coast, toughness, greediness, right and L. A. What it is. You decided swag. Confidence in you have to be a character so more than ever. I think that's Walkman as a as a player. I think it translates better to realistically, and we could shoot the war better. Yeah, for sure the we have the the best all around game without a hundred percent. Hometown I'm hometown biased. US FROM NEW YORK. Jim Around and. That's that's a city. You just want a Gerbil around the shot clock out like that going to translate see. That's the problem with New York basketball. What what they do in high school does not translate anywhere else, so you can have this one guard. They can just drew o'clock out thirty thirty two minutes just traveling. When you get to college shot clock. Now you've got to change your whole game an NBA. There's another shot clock. That's even lower than that one, and you have never prepared for none of that because he was too busy. Just you'll know how to finish days three to one. You Ain't doing that in the backyard because Youtube is driven. Fell off gene. Was It last twenty something years Kemba. Walker is the best player commander. Killed Logger Kyrie. CARRIES NEW JERSEY, so New Jersey doesn't count tristate area. New York. Kimba in Land Stevenson one into. Kalinda Nina who call Anthony. Who you know who? May come here is an one. The draft happens yes. This who I'm just wondering if That was the next New, York. It just won't be a brace. You just can't give everybody this you got. You got wasn't name it lands. I've never really introduced over. You don't want to name stars ahead of time. No Jason Tatum. Yeah, until he's an ulcer knows. I until he's all starbucks, Iverson will look at me and my face until I made the All Star game. You be talking to him he. Like. Command his face with. As glass zone looking right through your brother. You feel that. Different now. I might go ahead. Like I got to see it I got to see it. That's just what it is is the best thing about basketball as? When you get to the big level. It's all placement. Placement in hunger. The the will to want to get better because what people don't understand is. You have it'd be the first time in your life where you have so much free time. So much freedom so much free time. That's what you have. You. Wake up each breakfast. Don't eat breakfast. Go to practice at ten o'clock. You back in your car by twelve. Does it, you done got extra shots to shower, Gotcha massages and twelve noon. So new. To ten in the morning. Is Free Time. So. When you watch NBA players you. How he ain't getting better. Because, he's sitting at home working so now home playing video games. When you when you get to those next levels, even college you gotta understand like this is. This is a one and done for this one, and this is what I need to be doing. In I need to figure out. How to get better. And I mean yeah. I did five classes they I'm kinda tired I. Still GotTa get extra shots, 'cause. Team practice does not get you better individual. So you're going to have to get your individual work in. On Your own, and then the next level same thing it's you are your own business. You know what I mean. You have to sit there, yo. Trainer. We're GONNA. Work out this, they they they. Come in issue free those on. It's really is really just fine. Tuning your game where every single day or you know, you just won't be sitting there playing video games all day. Because you got to do. Is One of those lies where you you're. Team. On this born. because. It's not like college where you know you're going. You get to go to the student union and sit there all day. Have Fun. Go to class, and you're interacting this. You have nothing to do. But sit in the gym. You know that's why you can tell you can tell Jim's. Game changes overnight. You know what I mean. Just. You said a plan. You set goals and you attack them. Josh Nine College but I don't know who goes and hangs student union. Nine. You don't do this. Don't do that with do people do that? is now maybe they did maybe they? That's. got. Student anyway, but so you are an incoming freshman incoming college athlete. What is your approach now from what Gill said before you enter your this college era, as a player. What are you gonNA use in that time as a launching patent college in to be locked in told Hurley late when I first committed I was like whatever you got like. Give it to me like push me like I. Don't think I've been like pushed hard enough. I think Kylie rely on myself. Myself like push myself shotgun better, but as far as having a coach, my high school coaches good but I think to go to college, and then like an NBA brain, and he went to Duke, and then for him to pass on whatever yes, to me, that's GonNa be perfect and just handle business. That's why I'm there. Eight nine months I gotta be different. Two years. I'm trying to handle business. Then I mean that's that's that is the key like you you have to keep. Your goal don't get sidetracked easy to get aside. You know what I mean. You know you want to go there. Play with your brother and they're trying to get journey. As you had to put the plan in place you know. When I, when I went to college I was going to be a redshirt. So, I was going to be richer and I was gonna go to four year. Plan B., Jason Terry. So when I got there by I don't. Mi-. I mean. Aren't just get shots up, so I was so obsessed with just trying to make it four years instead of five years that I ended up taking it the Takhar car position. Starting the team scoring. Just because I was obsessed with just cutting that five-year-plan into four years. You know what I mean and in just. Three o'clock in the morning five o'clock in the morning running shooting night. I got when we when we got in trouble had Landrieu's. That was fun for me because I didn't look at it. As punishment I looked at it as I'm just getting more in shape. You know if I'm if I'm sitting here doing Lonzo's every day. WHO's going to keep up with me and on other on other side? So I'm sitting here just. You know. What I mean so, it's just when you get. Did just figure what you weaknesses? What are you weaknesses? I gotta get my my three ball back Prior to finishing at the room. Having a good layup package. probably playing off the ball just like moving, and then I got you better than the pick and roll. I never played like a dominant big so just to be able to play an PR. That's that's all it is in the league pretty much. Yeah, so to be able to master that I get. There s important. Sufficiency tonight now colleges. College is going to force you to move the ball anyway. So. You're going to get that just being in college. When it comes to work nine. Package spend the first twenty minutes just. Just lay you know you know how you warm up. Just work on layups just the first twenty minutes every single day before practice. Just you know when you're warm up, just work on spinning and getting the fill of it. You know just getting that movement because. To be honest. At your level. How often do you do lay ups? When training you don't give them. It doesn't every day Stop No. It's no point Doug. Don't take. No, does your. First Twenty minutes. You work on getting a feel because. Th- When we're working for some reason we lose. We lose the feel of the first like eight feet nine feet so little so of you're not really practicing floaters and training on floaters. Your lose. You lose that touch so like somebody like Kyrie and. Can I think of his name DC. John I mean strickland. Rod Strickland. Laya packages. Today's like Rod was probably the best. He's talked hiree. That all spins. Who Just Work Twenty minutes every day just working on them? You know Steve Nash Same Beam First Twenty minutes of practice. He just worked on all the little weird stuff. Getting better like you can work out for a year and not actually getting better ending. And I mean you hit you hit better, but you're not whatever you're good at now. Just you don't really need to work on it over. You know you work on things that you're not good at. That's what actually get you better. You have six things that you need to work on. Try to try to knock out to of summer. And then work on that during the year next summer before the draft to. Have the first year two more. I'm GONNA work on all sixty S. you know this. Isn't that how that works I mean take one two and then just focus on that the whole time then once. That's in once. That's in your package. Another package. And I mean that's like that's why I hate like the new trainers now because most of these new trainers. Never what they're teaching you. They've never actually done it. And they got all the skill that they wash them. Youtube and they practice. They've never done it in games. So they don't know how they work. Give it to you. And they don't teach outta executed because they've never executed it. Means so you have you know most of these have all these tools? Everyone's everyone's go-to guy. When in reality that there's only one. One and a half go to guys on the team. But everybody's go-to guy in training so now you've got all this training. You doing all this teams and then. We're GONNA. Sit Unicorn and you've never ran off one pick in last year. Practice and Ucla not do I'm not atmosphere. Player, just put the ball in my hands, so you know like when I trained. I trained as a two-guard. Because I'm since I'm the point I have the ball so I'm gonNA train as a two Gar so I did every all my all my workout stuff was all to our stuff. Coming off the pick and roll, coming off the pace, coming on downs, spot shooting curl shooting, so if we ever had a point guard come in, that can push him into the two. Was Klay Thompson, And I mean that's why clay instead worked so well together because they Damon cj because they both know exactly the same positions. So, as you gotta look at the same thing, you gotTa. Know your players better than they know themselves. And it's also time for you right like there's obviously you can do all this stuff, but what you're focusing on, even talk about your package things that you have to simulate things like contact things like gain going out of game speed. There's differences to what you're doing that, but that's what you're saying. You need to get into more probably high schools like high school. You told me it's time for a challenge I really be tested now because like. I'll see how good I really am. Once I. Know I'm good, but I'm really see when I get to cars, and that's where we'll be able to tell you whatever you better gives me high school basketball. Was So funny. This is the funny part. Of the report. College is this GonNa. Be just as easy as. High School. Players! The same players I mean, it might be bigger. There might be better players, but at the end of the day is the same. It's the same group so you. Your mindset is dominated them here. You changes here if I'm working nothing. You hear you hear. Different. And that was what I found out when I was in when I was going through that transition because I'm thinking the same. Manager told different spot right and then when I'm getting and I'm watching practice like I'm sitting here watching line. Crossover still like. He's GonNa hit him with the. Same, but yeah, you went to one year college, but you still can't. And then now you'll competence goes. Like soon as you dunk on a big man. Waiting. Because, remember in college. They're forced to jump jump. You know the difference the only thing that like slows you down and just play when teams play zones. Younger, can we? Made Range doesn't it is like it's? It's two different worlds. We know until kid when kids have NBA talent. Sometimes, you just got to get through this around. You know you just gotTa. Get through this round because this round might be difficult, but this around. Your skill levels at you know like somebody like Zach Levine comes off the bench. And it comes off the bench. In NBA. He's the best point of. Hear! Somebody like better. Players not better pros and college. And it's also the idea of is almost like video game like how high school you've got that level check college. Let me check off this level and get pros. Obviously, it's a whole new ballgame when you fit in at that level. Sometimes you know sometimes for your skill level. You just gotTa I. Just GotTa do enough like like. If you look at any James Harden, you would have thought this would have been a James Harden from net on those. You know what I mean because it's just two different. The floors opened up his one on one skill level work so easy right here. You know they're you know you pack it in zone, a bunch of try hearts. Go sit there and his own and. Laze pay, but now when he gets the Shimmy Day nobody there becomes. Lens Open? This year is tough, too. Because your name to McDonald's all. American Jordan Brand Classic the Nike Hoop Summit obviously because of the pandemic, those games didn't happen, but that's another example where you can come out of high school before you go to college, and you can measure yourself against all these other guys in the country that eating exposure to. Make it to McDonald's I was I made I was I. was number one hundred I'm proud of that? I? Mean that's. The last. What? You made it in an needs, so I didn't get to really so most of those guys that was on this I'd never ever seen him into. We played NBA. which is crazy, because maybe he wasn't. How was yeah now so back? Then you know like some of those teams. They were planning Lee circuits. You know so unless we seen them in like bigfoot Vegas or they came down here in a like I never seen Joe Johnson was like top ten. Never I'd never seen who he was didn't even know. He existed into draft time. You know so. Now you have the Internet. You really hit the like. Is that highlight. Like looking. Are used the mix tapes. Stay good or is it mixed? You never know I. don't even watch like most of the kids in high school. I promise you I'd be so focused on what I'm doing and get my grind on, even like I tried to watch a high school. Basically they couldn't get through it I was like. I don't know I think I keep up with. Maybe like one person and that's detailing Jalen. That's like that's my job. I really don't unless I. Know You like based off the strength. I'm not really watching us. I've been paying too much attention to high school i. Is Even valuable to watch a mixed team, so study your own. If you're that guy, you're going to be with those guys at those. USA Cams at the academy. Potentially could be McDonald's like when I see you see you, this is what it is. Is Video Okay even entertainment. Mix It. Like say you can get an idea where he likes to do because you gotta remember, it's all his plays that he's made, so you can see if he's a left hand. Favorite Guy, you know what? You know if he jumps off. You know if he's an awkward jumper. If you likes to pull up, you can, you can gauge it depending on which channel look for if you're just looking for highlights. See if he's good or not. Then you don't get that says it's a highlight tape. We also look good, but you can see okay like out of these twelve clips eleven. He favored his left hand. Okay, you do face him. You know no matter what he do. He wants to go back left. How many times have you seen you jump shot in. Your life mix tape I watch. Maybe three doing the thing about it is i. don't even the Dunkin is cool. That's entertainment, not need to watch the. One. For comments and stuff like that I mean. I'd rather see a juncture. Rather, see jumps Dunkin. This cool I like it, it looks. Rather, see jump shot because think of the thousands that you put up. A basketball player like dunker. Who So Duncan I'd do it, but I think. I shoot the ball more than Dunkin game, so they. They post with what they want to get people. It's Arezzo stadiums or for you. See He, talked about them. But we also. Mentioned talking about swag and gets an LA thing. Let's just let's just face that, but you come in. The idea. I WANNA. Hear the story of this that. fish in guppies right so jay is your your handle all right. And what's the story behind that? So my brother Pat was I coming up. He was like high school. You Got Big Lips, so they called him. They caught him and then they will just tell him I wanna his I want to. Be and he was just like yeah. Pat Fish or came was a little bit, and then there was like I was. So I think I was at A. Camp I was already just going by Guppy that I. cut it down. It was killed like one of the home users just like he just started calling me when I say oh, that's hard. Copies. Toughness fish in the ocean now. I was I was telling me growth the baby. Comes down to the water and I think. means a million fish of. Millions. Rooms. So, you come into it with your own nickname, we have we have the. This is a different level now that you're coming as your own package. Severe I don't know I've always been just super like flamboyant. Who who I am I think I've always been like steph stylish kit before like branding was anything. I was putting on clothes shoes. That was my brother. Pashas closet when I was like a size eleven fourteen I couldn't finish stuff, but I was going through his stuff when the shoes I just always been like in the clothes and shoes and stuff. I think it's because you're younger. The younger siblings you look up to. Have and you WANNA to be like them, so it's like off dressed like them or Come up with my own. Hours also about okay, he dresses, but because we are addressable addresses waiting for their brothers, Patrick's like super like elegant Caleb. Is Lake straightforward thing? I'm the one that could more creative with must've. Do, you watch other guys like a guy like a shea. Alexander Young guys that make a statement when you when you get there. You want to be one of those guys. I mean he alex over the next couple of solid office but I wear clothes with me so I'll put on what I like. To See those guys where? Today You know the funny thing about. Outfit. It's only the team you see. It was to the point where I was buying suits, and I'm sitting here like. What am I? Spend money listen. No one sees me go to Jim too early for the cameras. And then on a roll. Same thing so I was like you know what let me see if anyone ever noticed that. I don't actually wear clothes, so I was coming to the gyms like this, but because I was getting the gym so early. No one ever see me so the cameras pick me up because you know on a road I go to at three thirty. Same thing dirt never wore suits. Steve Fashionable were soups Tim Duncan everywhere because they're in a gym so early that why are you spend close on? Most. Once Anyway I. Have T shirts that I'll spend money on and are only wear once and I'll be there I was like do have to. Fees. Fashion. Get it and you live with it? You don't ask the questions. that. We would. If. I, were certainly look Nice I'm winning tomorrow. I wear. Don't serve that I'll be waiting for once I got. I got I was waiting for about like six months and then I finally got it where it once. I haven't tested since. There's another direction it can go in, and we can give some more backstory to it. You played on the drew league team. Do you know about this, okay? He played on a daily team most hated. With Nick. You posted a video. Because I thought it was nick and I got. Your wait a minute brought. Zoo that I'm trying to say and even you'll see. Out. What was going on I was like okay. Familiar grown man I was like. Okay was just going. It's cool whenever I saw. Yeah, the okay, that's okay. Kind of weird. You know got my brother Neat, trying to go to the name and I'm realizing like. Say No NYDIA you'll move like this year. I? Think it throwback. DUGOUT air. If. You were commenting in there and. People are saying for me so. Go it'll realize. Obviously. Right very true. Nick in his what you said to him about his perspective on looking good and feeling good, and that's really who is as a player in as a person you know. Also the. Can you spend too much time on that? You're over thinking that. No. Well. For an NBA lifestyle. No 'cause you gotta remember. You have twenty two hours to yourself. You have twenty two hour. So the hobbies you you you. You don't realize you. Have you need you need have to have. That this would understand like you. As as technically like being homeless for twenty two hours a day. Because you go to work for two hours. If you go to work for two hours. Like if you if you watching the clippers in doc, we're. Thirty Games into the season DOC, said Quiet Leonard and Paul George hasn't practiced together. No one caught it knowing caught what he said, they haven't pregnant. So what are y'all doing in these two? Play! Seventeen Games together. Hasn't practice together, 'cause they only do an individual work. The team we're. Getting James Harden. Houston they'd go onto the same player day James Hardie up by the. Everybody goes to the. You'll need to have a team taxes for that. Let. Me just get individual work so. You have to have something Jason Richardson was a DJ. He's been on a plane in his room at. He's spent his whole time making DJ mixes. For Summer. That's what he's been his whole time on. You know yeah, jared jeffries would fishing, so he's trying to go find lakes. And like you know you gotTa, you gotTa. You gotta like try to craft some of that time out. You can go like this team. You can go like three or four days without a team practice. Lakers golden state you go get a veteran coach who played in the NBA. You go through some days where you? Practice in two or three days y'all had two games. My rookie season coach Guy so mad that our team is horrible. He's no more practice. To your rookie, no more practice what? I'm driving the LA. Is is say as Friday. We'll play again to Tuesday no practice. In Sunset Boulevard! All the way down here. Down here on the boulevard, go get someone. A little car washes clean up all little busby here in his trip when his overdraw all the way back. Come back Saturday. Do it again. Because I was dumb enough. I wasn't smart enough to get hotel, right? Just fly is just. His. Car. Powder as a young guy. You're not really ready for that because you're thinking. I've I've lived in breathed basketball all day every day for for so long no I'm telling guessing crazy. You gotTA. You gotTA. Be You know you had to have a plan? You know what I mean you gotTa. You gotTa have. Rules. I mean rules is like as an NBA player going in rules. Your brother, your family, all stick by the same rules understand the rules and don't break the rules from near. You, you have no limit in like I have a rule that I didn't. There's no on Game Day. Like no phones on the whole Game Day, there's no phones because I realized that there's nothing that's GonNa. Come good on. There's nothing someone's going to text me. Actually have me play well. You. Know what I mean. There's nothing I can. Get the ball. There's nothing that can come to tax in. Make you play well, but you can be something on the test that can make. You played bad. You know so I just. There's nothing like takings. Dad Brother, y'all figuring out whoever ever need tickets y'all figured it out or do the night before. Don't don't call me about tickets on Game Day Game Day is just for me to focus I'm GonNa Watch my movies EMA food. Don't you know? Don't even talk to me on Game Day I need my thoughts pure. and. That's how I was on. Game Day in order to me, so I didn't talk to the media before game I only tell them question on. who asked me that's GonNa make me. Oh Yeah. You didn't pass the ball. How do you fit like? Before I came. Here none of that if I'm selfish, let me be selfish. The game thinking about shooting thirty shots over here, talking about passing and team. fucking whole game and I mean, and that's bad why that's how I approached it, and then I you know I was so. Into Preparation that I. Ate the same food on game. Day At home drove the same way. I don't care if there was a car blocking. My this is Elena was in and some happened to this car I'm Gonna I'M GONNA move? We move to the side such go by there because I'm not. I don't know what is going to do the maximum. Yeah, I mean you know just one of those it I was just. I was just into. I was just so superstitious. Once I seen once I seen like why don't use my phone and a half forty? Oh. Is that the biggest difference at the pro level your mental. Really they. They soon as ninety percent ten percent physical. Every everyone getting everyone has a resume. Everyone was someone at this is the level. Everyone's trying to get to so if you take someone like. PJ Tucker. If you look at his high school resume I'm probably shaped like. Was that good? He's a role player here. Right and then you had James Harden, who came off the bench to Katie and Westworld. At Him. The mental part of it. who were who who's mentally stronger than who? I mean who's who accept challenges who bags down from challenges. It's got all the Tigers. In one stage. In. Cooking, kill who who's going to be covered in who you know what I mean they you know when people say well. He beat him and beat him. It means I'm better to him Oh. Not That's not technically how that works. You know he lost the him because he has something over him. You have something over here. What makes you better than him? You know what I mean just matchups. If if you if you hit that match when people say Kobe's a great defender and I'm like not. Not Not not to me. He's great in possessions. He can't move left right fashion to me so any crossover I'm going to get him if I just blow. Pass him so as defender Yeah. He's a one. Not to me, you know what I mean Roger Bail. He's one not to me in other means, so it's like you know, so we're knows. Defensive players came off. I got forty tonight. I hated the lazy defender. You score. You score school. Because Lazy Finger when you try to cross over. Anyway, so he just did this. Try to try to try to cross up a lazy defended. They don't go nowhere because they don't WanNa. Play defense. Is that over high when you get. Out? and. Go for everything lazy. I hated ladies defender. Wants to stop me. Put so much effort into that shape. Happen. 'CAUSE! Tennis. Worse. Worse! As, you mentioned this when you get there, you have something in my. What do you want? Accomplish beyond basketball. Beyond so bad note nothing. Basketball basketball can get you there. That's. For sure. So on my my grandkids to be able to eat off my name, I went down. I think he'd do whatever they want like. Make sure my grandkids. I set, so it's like to be H. Dream nation me financially stable I'd probably getting them all kinds of faster. That'll be a big deal for some reason like. I've been like thinking I can might entertainment. Sailing came for. US. Thought like that. Thought like maybe could be actor when they. See I don't know it's just like you cross my lately. maybe write a book to. Someone like that, so a biography or yeah, probably agree. My English told me like I think I wrote an essay and she was like a one day I. Think you should write like on your life. I want us all said and done just a really fun active like writing style. So that's since I. Don't know we'll see. GotTa Handle Business I. I, okay, we'll get happy with those put yourself on. Don't buy a house. On your first contract. Owned by housing first contract because. You were you'll be working backwards? Because when you sign your contract. Right you, let's say you're making three million a year. Whatever you buy, you buy on credit. Right. So you can end up spinning your first years money on a house and decorating the House and doing all that and then during that same year. You're still on now. You're on your twos money, so just get your nice little condo. Dismiss inlet that money banking. Let them money banking and banking. So you can see what goes in goes out. Put yourself on. An allowance reasonable allowance right you know. I need five ten thousand dollars a month for spendings. You start you know you start? Doing appears like that. Trust me. It'd build because. One hundred and one hundred fifty thousand dollars a month, and you're free money as ten plus bills and other. Let's say fifteen. That's only twenty five thousand gone. I mean he's your banking. In another. Bank Bank Me Bank. You know what I mean. You don't really have no as I said. Don't get into the house judiciary. Wait you know. They said Jordan and buy a house for seven years. Saturday in the broad lived condo. The Lebron lived in a condo. FOR MOST OF HIS CLEVELAND. Has First Years Cleveland days. No just it's just. It's just an them big purchases that that make you by credit like you know just trying to stay out of that credit that credit around you. Like Like entertainment, just be you. Know be huge, just be like like be dead, loving due to smile and dude you know because. Everyone's looking for the next personality near. You know who who? Who what face can I sell to women? They know it ain't always about who can I sell to women as can I sell to women because you remember, women spend the most outside you know when you're cold and brands come, it's. Them, it's you know so. They're gonNA. Push the faces like I wanNA. I WANNA push the face to face. You gotTa push the pace and you might have trimmed down a little bit. Trimmer down, semester. Train Visit Cumberland I'm away. It gets out of. This, they don't say it. They don't be saying it, but if you look at everyone, they push. Do they have. No I not. Go I'm listening. Bro clean-cut. America's clinker like think about Bosch Boston. Get all that endorsement money into what he did he. Couldn't take his. And I mean the only person who like. Who like gets away with? Dennis now. Iverson Hawaii Iverson Michael. Not one endorsement deal besides reebok. As I say. I didn't get. He couldn't get an. Because, he wouldn't give. And don't don't well. You can't give me notice, Lebron. Didn't really have the NBA wasn't pushing the brand like that they any wait. Wait was clean. steph curry is clean. You know so they push you know. They're trying to sell it to the masses. They tried to sell it to the mass. All they try to worldwide. You gotta be worldwide sellable. Shot not. For yourself out there. Where's the guy like is guarded? He wasn't really looking for those things. Maybe doesn't have the same interest like you're talking about so that's on him, he just. Who really let's face it you do you like like? Like westbrook go go after I go after all. You don't want these bills go get. Get Them Eliot I'm. GonNa go get them. And even the idea of entertainment. It's also a great outlet. I talked to two Daimler about this and he was in his. With hip hop. Yeah, it was look. He said. I don't want to be a rapper full-time, but it's outlet for me because I don't play basketball twenty four hours a day. That's what people think you do. For, me like if I want to unplug yeah, I'll go. And that's his. That's his hobby. That's his hobby that they're closing from the space because people really think you really think you spend twenty four hours. Working out then thinking like when you comment you always on these agreements to be working on your game. Twice. Day! About because it's not a nine to five job, there's plenty hours you put into more than a doesn't. average person thinks it's a nine to five. That's the problem, even though it's a two hour forty five minute job. You know what I mean that's that's really all it is. It's it's. You have to want to be great. There's no coach. That's going to help you be great. There's no. There's no trainer that's going to be. That's going. Have your talent. That's GONNA. Say Yeah, this is what you need to do. If. He averaged six points. His mindset is six point. Six. I don't care what he talking about. Whatever he says is six points, and as I looked at my coaches like you like I asked him. How would you rich? Eight! You'll need to what passable. I'm doing the opposite way. That six points doesn't six point mice ready it is. That's how I look at it I. Don't read. The dude average thirty uncles. Trying to ever starting I'm gonNA listen to what he say. The average sits, and he was twelve. Assess and I'm a score. No hidden on the talking about if I want to be John Stockton Forget. That Alabama score. I'M GONNA listen. To, me. And Josh for you you're you open yourself up to exposure at all things, not just basketball, but will bring them back to basketball. Is You put yourself in situations where I think he's? You want to be uncomfortable because that will allow you to grow, and allow you be better place playing with playing up Mike withdrew in the summertime where he played indictment or going all over the country that you can learn from antique from other players. We the guys that you're working with that that you're drunk from. as far as learning from their game. for sure for sure why you're still Kobe Fisher footwork stuff. I, think like as far as my like. My funds of basketball watched a lot of Nikko to watched a lot of Dick without a doubt. What do you think he got that from? Nick was serious right when he came came in. Who Nick No. This is. According to him though you know. He would have been somebody else if he wasn't with you know nick was what nick sounds record. Nick! Silly was in that's. Okay, so you're silly it until the one hundred you met you, but okay, so nick, so you Lou will Fiji Kobe Jordan. That's that's like the basis of the guys I liked to watch. For sure you should, you should watch. Just for. Someone, who's not you right? You take away all the athleticism and he had go why someone like Joe Johnson? ACID WASHES JOE Johnson. How he came off pick and roll. He was amazing and. You the other ones your name. They're so different than you know how you play, and that's how you get better. Just watching watching how he uses the screen a because, he doesn't have this watching the setup watching you know his finishing move watching his feet. You know what I mean and that's that's. That's how you do. It is like when people talk about Kobe. He, wasn't he? He wasn't as great as Jordan. That wasn't the point. The point was. He was competing with that greatness in his mind. So as long as he's at the top, it forced him to get better every year. I'm watching Jordan this year. His ninety his ninety nine year by year. He's challenge himself against Jordan. No one else in NBA because no one in. The Resin Mba. Wasn't on the level of Michael Jordan. So why am I? Competing with them? There's just in life I gained. Way is how he looked at during my way. I'm competing as Jordan stats every year and that's how he did it. You know what I mean, so you you you even if as Kobe Kobe's Jordan in you, this is who I'm going against. This is what I'm going. I'm going against you all. This good or better than no. It's rare I'll give it that like. Like over, just see. It's hard because evolution gives Koby more moves. More create workers. You know, but when it comes to engines, just a body say way more know what I'm saying, but the body type himself here you talking about someone who had a forty cents since vertical versus thirty eight inch vertical. Mean? It's you know someone who has fast twitch muscles like Westbrook. Versus. White, boy, player, right, you know what I mean, and so it was two different body styles. If you took away the game and all the attributes and you say all right. Who Do you WANNA be and you're looking at their body type. What else should this one? You know parts of the? Business average, you know. He just had a motor of one and it'd be great. You know what I mean so. Now you gotTA. Honda chasing a Bugatti. And as what it is is, that is that that's guy I'm Honda and I. Aydin willed my way to get to. A Lamborghini. If I, if I wouldn't have looked at that but Gadi apart, he would've stayed of Honda. Because I'm chasing him and I WANNA be as great as that. My engines getting bigger, just trying to keep up with it, and that's that's what got him inside. The I'm one of the greatest rooms. He didn't have to be the greatest. I got in a room y'all got to get into this room. I'm going to roll. Thank you appreciate it. To. Josh was saying about Kobe. Anything about Jordan was, he had the freakish factor where he his lay package was something. You really wouldn't. It was all reactionary. Go Up under in. His spin where Kobe really wouldn't look at it that way. He's more of a perfectionist, yeah. It's the. Muhammad Ali Mike Tyson. Super Freaks. And then you have mayweather that's Kobe Kobe. Right, you know I'm not the biggest strongest, but I'm GONNA perfect. I'm GonNa Perfect my style and my craft versus these guys. Frequent their God given athletic. What, is it for you about colby that stands out above everybody else. Meg! Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like. Maybe? Jordan was ahead of his time, but I feel like he wasn't pushed as much as I feel. Like Jordan. Play as good as competition as Kobe like I watched I watched clips I guess when they played the Pistons, the whole. Thing, it was cool, but him up there. That wasn't basketball. That wasn't basketball. They were trying to kill him literally. If I want to credit or play basketball for new, tell me go. F- him up. That's not going to be hard. I gotTa make sure I hit him but like. But think of it like this how you looked at high school. Is How Jordan was in NBA because I'm so. I'm so much. Was the head of his own my attributes. You've gotta remember his attributes. The closest person I came to his vert since him is Zach Levine forty-five. Vince was forty four. You know what I mean, so you're talking about some guy who stale the highest jumper. So you can see when he decided to go. There's really no force that was stopped with him, so he? He made it look like high school. So he was at the end of his time and then just. Dropped if you drop, this is what I used to tell people. Okay let's drop Jordan Here in, give him all Koby's. All of Kobe's. Creativity. Oh! That's a problem, right? Now what is called Kobe all of Georgia's natural ability. You know what I mean and that's that's. Giving us. He just so physically gifted in every day, and that was the problem. Your hands. That's Georgia's hands. Kobe had his hands. That's all you never seen Koby System? You never seen. Joining Georgia. It wasn't that fast. So when you're when you're when you're lacking something, you have to make it up so when you say. Oh, Kobe have more skill. Kobe needed more skill because Kobe. Jewel and just jump over everybody. He couldn't come in a lane and do all so he had to come with. The pump fakes hesitations of reverse because he had to figure out how to get that shot off. It wasn't like it's like Kyrie versus Westbrook. They're both in the same error, but one just says I don't need all. She I just. Meet mini at the RIM type of game doesn't shake and bake you. Kobe had the commitment to do that. Dedication and work on scale where there's guys in no shade to him, but guys like Vince, Carter, Iguana. They're just freak athlete. NAGINA. which again when you're free, Kathy you don't really have to, but when you have the bouncer bro You. Are you like you're out of the roof own? You have the athleticism. Enjoy. Like. If, you take Vince right, and you take Vincent said all right. I'm going to take all your attributes and we're gonNA give you. Kobe's mindset. Vince would have been considered. The goat. Because, his attributes was almost better than Jordan right because he had bigger hands. Longer arms I mean has one to bounce his shot. His creator like he was, he just didn't have the mind and heart to one A. B. as great as that. You know what I mean in some some some some guys. It's so easy to them. That they don't only work on that man. Everybody everybody. Don't care like wasn't air by you. Get in their. Room. For sure. I'm going to be in that room. You WanNa be in that room. That means you're GONNA. Put the work into being being. You're on the way to ensure homeland. Do something from all to get the best out of it. Point. More game recognizes game there for for what you've seen on Josh okay. Nick what you posted. What have you seen in his game? Who are some other guys that you want him to study? Like for him because he has a D. Wade De Way like the way hit lanes and hits the the basket. That was what I told him. You know watch Joe Johnson people who are slower. You know because you know trying to get all the fundamental win. You don't need to prepare for what you do now right now. You're freaking nature. You know you you prepare for when you're slowing down in life, so if you already in if you already put it into your body when you do down doesn't affect you. You know like. With Jordan, he'd learned to turn around and back to the Bassett all his way before he slowed down so when he turns forty he's. He averaged twenty points a game. The There's a reason so you. You're preparing for now, but you're preparing for the future. Your skill level, so you know you watch guys who who have us more footwork than their natural ability. I got one brought up, and I didn't think you'd like it, but if you watch a younger Milwaukee, Seattle Ray Allen. People remember him as the shooter that he was. He was very. He was on lending. I sit. UPS. And just his release was so quick, and that's the thing that that takes a lot of work to get his shot that he got refined when he was older, but when he was younger, his release was so quick, and that was his really ultimate weapon. I'll tell you look. He was a rival. Take a listen I mean. Your debt, you're. He jumped too high. He jumped to high. which tire him out for the fourth quarter. Our Game Plan. Too High because. But it was a jumper got a member to more energy. Use It more injury. You're wasting for I. don't even WanNa Doug I do. I. GotTa remember every, Time. You putting on a show. That's one thing that you got to look at from that Jordan thing is. Remember every time you step on the floor. You have to play like someone is seeing you for the I. Mean like this is. This is the first time I don't know. Where Does Person Camera? This is the first time this person me so. Might be the last time this person's name so I need to go out and show like. Go like like I remember when Vince Carter was doing that. Vince Carter or Be on a fast break and when? People Start Blowing I knew. Fast. Once, you give something new Bagel. Keep expecting so yeah. You GotTa do. Not Dunkin. I. Got, like I'm trying to look. You're trying to sell shoes NASA. Merchandise, you need you need occasional i. it'll be good. Seventeen. Dunker Duncan anytime you can. Take you? I give is do it. It's time for some. Ask Aging Zero. A. One question you. We talked about hobbies. What was your hobby when you're playing basketball? I was a halo fanatic. So what I do is I wired my whole house. I can have tournaments at my house so I had like I. Mean it was? It was so giggle, but it was like at that point it was it had wires coming down the stairs around the corner floors of just TV's and X. Boxes, and then I just invite people over, and we'll just have like sixteen on this battles and I'll at three four five in the morning. That's Halos online. That's why before yeah, no halo was online so called before call duty. It was called duty before right. That's all straight xbox Hamilton. Online, but not like. It is now where you can connect to party. Reach Your own party, but you had people in your house. We have people in our house. Because we're playing with local clinical look, so we'll have sixteen on sixteen in a house or have eight on eight versus someone else. Be Part of our sixteen verse Sixteen Online that's created. Used to be this Kore-. Hours that's been hours on it because I didn't have nothing else A. That will call. We're talking about hobbies. I was like man. It'd be looking for clothes, and we'll be on call of duty on my playstation, and that's about it may may not. Like I was getting I was so upset. I was getting cheap xboxes like I'll have like nerd like Riga xbox so like when I should pistol. Rocket or sniper. Disease! Imagine call of duty. You picked up. It's a rocket. Watch it like you. Guys. season. What were the WHO is your vets? Then at that point was the Koran and. What were they? Were they saying when you're married? Yeah, so you're all night playing video games were. On House? See. That's the difference you're not around kids so depending on what team depending on what your what you're introduced to you coming in and you go to. Say. Might Toronto right mostly veterans. Got Girlfriends Mary Kay so eight or dangerous time. Family time. As? A law that's why like that's why you know my like Leonard Baio I'm bored here. You'll bring in George something so I can have somebody to talk to, and they have Because if you don't have nobody, that's that's you. Know, that's probably not started winning. HANGING OUT! But when a team like that, that means that veteran. That veteran. is forcing everybody to all. Hang out together. You know what I mean, so like Lebron we don't Taco Tuesday. We're all GONNA go together. You know all the people who's married got a member. He's the older now, so he's thirty five so everybody. WHO's young like? No, no, no, we all do it together. Bring your wives your cage government. Because usually they're veteran. He's a family man so. He's sitting there twenty one. We're going to the club and he likes. Well, I don't do that in a Mo-. Fatemi so that's what ends up happening. You push straight into adulthood. And so much time yourself. But. You don't want to go to, but you want to go to a team like the PELICANS. Have Fun and. To be to stay young you WANNA go to a Pelicans because that's all young kids. You get the. All vibe with each other you get to grow. Eagerly and it, two ways and also Josh defend your generation here. You could go to a team and you say I WANNA. Make my team with the guys that I want to play with. That was kind of what the brand got a bad rap for with Miami the super team right so, but it makes a lot of sense for fact of chemistry. The way you play together guys that you want to actually play with. Hang out with and live with like as a professional. went to strangers row nobody. was when anyone's a strange to you. But the. Funny part about like we'll take the PELICANS right. You have all those young kids. Way. They're like together all the time. You're going to be good. Business is going to break them up. Because, you've got to remember if y'all good y'all Ballin y'all worth smuggle. Pay, all all worth, there's one there's one do can't pay you. Two, hundred, two, hundred, two, hundred, two hundred, and we'll get the thunder. Katie wrestling art can afford them. Four million dollars, yeah. That's all you know James. James Harden or they had to do match four hundred four million dollars a year for him. He's out of there. You came match for. What I'm saying the business. The business breaks it up, you know. That that's why I say sometimes you gotta understand the business to. Business. Inside of a business and you just got to focus on. You know you go. So, there's no. You can't get too comfortable. Way they're. Close now you. GotTa enjoy comfortable. You get comfortable with getting better. That's all you can come to getting getting better. You know seeing seeing the results of all the hard work you put in. You know what I mean, because no matter how good you are, no, you average. US Thirty, one, thirty, two thirty. No matter how much you have, you got to get better because you gotta remember. If you dog meat a day. And you Laffan, I'm training for the next time, so you gotta think everybody you don't conquer come in. They come in. You just gotTa. Keep coming, so you gotTA keep trying to. Like you like you heard about Jordan on. It wasn't that he made them anything to get mad at somebody you. Close the door fast. He. Wants me to me. In. That's how you do it, you. You don't go to a team like played his milwaukee. Or Detroit. MEMPHIS they nutting in the cities. Or some sorry team. There's plenty his Cleveland. You gotTA figure out something to get. You might because you're gonNA be ready for the Lebron's in a cage. And you'RE GONNA be ready mentally for old instant. Teams were Dana Star on there. He averaged four points. Now you gotTA. You gotta get. Yourself ready for that game. Because, you got me looking at you like. They're making name every. You know you gotta be rated Oh. He said what about. Okay I got him. to me. If you have that in your character, your fun guy, you can have the idea like I'm going to a small market I, WanNa have put him big show. They. Don't get this kind of entertainment every all the time where I go to Miami. Place. I'm going to step my game up in a live place. You might not be the cycle path that hurts. Somebody said Nice game. Would you mean night's? But remember that's about you know what I mean. The only thing that separates everyone. Everyone. Your superstars of eighty two game. They're mentally there. Seventy seventy. Superstars you're all SARS. All NBA players seventy four. All Stars Sixty eight. And, then you have. Your you, you're good. You're good like an. All Star but he you know he shoulda made all NBA Buddy. Those are those are like sixty two's. Fifty those guys yo he's. He's nice, but he just ever gets over it, and he just doesn't get over to. Those are the guys that like you mental digits not mentally ready all the time. You know they're they're. Going to get there good for those good days, but when it went, they're not playing someone who's going to challenge them. They'd check out. All Right Josh the skeets you out on this, so the point is wherever you're at. Enjoy it at any level. Always looked for that challenge. It comes back to that at any level Lao. Keep you get your business right business I. Take Care of the family. What else you got. Those no, no say those those that don't on too long. To the three of us on the couch. He's just going to be the way he's going to be. Around. BE, they're. GonNa! Trojan colors. Maroon and gold. Can. Really ours is like Whoa. It's like it's wines a wine cooler. It's like wise fire Rose Talk La. Red White and blue. How original that! UNORIGINAL ARIZONA. wildcats so many wildcats in college is so many walk. into. Two. And there's only one Josh, Christopher. Guppy is becoming the big fish. pissed. Because the big fish. I saw him aware yet. Food chain. His coach. Size Bra Jordan. Plane my culture. I'm not even going to get into that with you. He Wear Adidas Pants Puma Shirt Nike shoes. You have. Goes you. have to. You have to pick. Air? No kidding. We're white t shirts. Wear white to. That's that's. That's that's that's like going to the club. FAMOUS RESTAURANT WHITE! In Cleveland low jacket on. All the other stuff, I? Just can't I don't know how to, but that is. That's. A little goofy trying to dress up like yeah, it's like everybody got it like. Sometimes you just got. That's what made me laughing at. What? The Yoga Yoga Pants at the bottom and Bathroom game. Now that was. That was tough though I. Don't care for Don. Worse than. Worse Than Duke or Arizona State. Is Nick wearing a bathrobe to of playoff dad's row from target? Sancho. Give Him some credit for that. I'm to be watching. Watching this this a, Who We should have some games on TV. Should. Have enjoy. Enjoy enjoy it was so enjoy experienced in college and I mean like. Like trying new things like. When? You gotta remember that. I told you what the NBA looks like so college you all the phrase make friends have fun that life experience while you still maintain them because. The real world is different. So you know you you one year two years enjoy have fun with your brother, y'all y'all y'all make memories and. Those memories in you know, and then from there y'all just start going into your next next chapters. Means him today. To Join. US Mike von Bulow. Was He Nixon. Moment you.

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What's Up Doc

Highly Questionable

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What's Up Doc

"Hello and welcome to highly questionable. This maiden voyage over here. Poppy, who is this guy and stumbling on the is in your you don't have to respect them like that standing what do you like on the show today? I like talking about the Lakers and the clippers and what's going on in LA. Oh, look at him. He's doing some television for you. Poppy. Well, we'll then be coaches and executive be looking for one day watched the AA tournament. If only we had an NBA executive and somebody who was qualified doing such things here to discuss that we don't because he got fired from doing their job and his instead sitting next to us on television. But what I'll be looking for in. This is much the same thing that what these scouts will be looking for which is the three guys on Duke, and John Moran because he feels a little bit like Russell Westbrook. And those are the four guys that it seems like have the best pro potential. We don't want to talk about middle of the first round guys. We're talking about top five dukes got three of them. And Murray state's got the other. Yeah. I think John Marantz probably one of the most intriguing guys in this tournament. Tremendous f- lettuces them can score can really pass. I'm looking forward to watch more of him. Because didn't get to see a lot of during the year. Very exciting guy. I tell you who I'll be watching watching fairly as the team that predictive was going to win last night. He that's right. Stan he went to fairly Dickinson. Look at that poppies, always right? And they finally got an shea win. But it was a sixteenth seed beating another sixteenths there's that there's that part these going away to the final four I'm telling you Trump these ear. I win is one to stub their they're going to keep on winning probably I think they're done. Now, they have one more game. It was a great win and the rights over and the bearer of bad news comes writing here. Disappoints the old, man. How rude? Really? Yeah. You working in the NBA right now. No more credentials than he does. It's a lot more fun sitting next to you than working in the NBA. It wouldn't be if you drafted better. Shoot reverse have even want to the Lakers. Okay. If only we had an executive up here who could have had the Golden State job possibly, but instead took the Detroit Pistons job because of the relationship with the owner, Doc Rivers has a very good relationship with his owner Balmer, even though the Lakers have all the pedigree. They're kind of a mess in a mom and pop shop a family organization that doesn't have this relationship with its code. So now, they've said that Doc Rivers is going to be there a long time and contractually extended, and it makes sense he survived one of the worst scandals we've ever seen the owner getting kicked out of the league and having his team taken away for racism. He has withstood that and says he wants to make the clippers the place that matter I love that. He has the relationship with the owner that allows them to do that. I don't know if you can ever make the clippers the franchise that matters in LA, no matter what he does. But he certainly right now coaching the better team. And maybe even a better future. Everybody's talking about. What are the Lakers gonna put with LeBron forgetting that the clippers can go out and possibly attract to max level free agents? They could have the better team going forward. Why would Doc Rivers wanna move across town to the Lakers? I know someone who will be perfect for the Lakers to hire. He's last name. He's Van Gundy jet back. Yeah. He he has not failed recently. No, not as recently. Has the young yellow Roussel begun the start that the Lakers needed? If only we had somebody here on set with us who could have traded for the ngelo Russell and changes entire future in Detroit. If he had known anyone in the league known what we saw last night that the Angela Russell can outscore the kings by himself, and he's almost single handedly responsible for the nets being one of the surprise teams in the league. I don't feel like anybody really knew that the ngelo Russell was going to be any good otherwise somebody other than the Mets would have had interest in it. We'll Sean marks new and he did a great job bringing him into Brooklyn. But look people always assume that because the guy went to Brooklyn and became a really good player. He would have been just as good in LA. Maybe he needed a change of scenery. I think in the Angelo Russell's Casey definitely did. I think that's all helped him. He's playing great. But I don't think it's a bad Mark on the Lakers. I know what they should do that should train bro for him of the health at trait. You know? Oh my gosh. Seriously. Seriously looked Dangelo Russell Goodyear. Poppy. James as maybe the best career ever can't make that train. I'll make a trait in a heartbeat. Just like that. Who has more indefinable tell me that the ngelo Russell. Check. Gashed. And there's a good reason for that. Poppy, what do you think it is? Because the Angelo Russell's the greatest. Is going through lists. Well, he says lake say shall to their young core. Coby was talking in Spanish and talion while talking to my Greenberg, and what looked like a closet, but I was actually just an NBA merchandising store and Kobe's saying, basically, what a lot of people think which is that the Lakers core beyond. Lebron isn't good enough to bring you value? So that you should just get rid of them and start over. And I do think STAN once you've had this spectacular failure on your resume. The Lakers are no better this year at this point by record than they were last year. I do think you have to say you don't need much of anything that's around LeBron right now to stay. Well, maybe not. But they still do have value. Kyle kouzmine Brandon Ingram. Lonzo ball. Those guys have value. You can't just get rid of them. You're going to have to try to bring something back. Hopefully, better look, it's all about how good can you? You be over the next few years or you reverse course. And like, my brother suggested trade LeBron and start rebuilding. Again, the hell the van Gundy's are blasphemous with this trading. Lebron stop. Jeff trae, LeBron rebuilding again. That's it. No. You wanna do that you want to trading for the ngelo? Move. I don't think that's a hell of a move. No, no. But the Lakers have to decide what they want to do. I would think what they wanna do is maximize the rest of LeBron's contract in that case they've got to turn those young players into guys that can help them win right now. That's what he says every time he touched the bowl show. What he would say. The double make divide this issue by letting Tate Martell played immediately. Okay. This was a loophole. A bit of a loophole poppies very excited because the you is back in play. This is a good quarterback. They were trying to hide their quarterback for the last two seasons. And he's basically arguing legally that urban Meyer left, so I should have the ability to transfer and the NCAA agreed with and he was unhappy with where he was at Ohio State. But putting this out there is a precedent that can be set to be exploited in the future. If you care about the kids at all, you should be happy about that. Absolutely. I mean, this shouldn't even be a question should he be allowed to play? They should be allowed to play when they transfer. We let coaches move from job to job with no penalties whatsoever. What's good for the coaches should be good for the players if they want to move to a situation. It's better for them. If they wanna play at four schools in four years, that's totally up to them. This is. A great precedent. Let's hope it continues. I can get stand started on the NCAA. He hates the NCAA. He calls it the most evil organization. The history of sports. I it's pretty close because I would just say their mission to me should be to take care of the student athletes, which they love to say, but in reality, they're just working for the institutions and really against the athletes and a lot of cases. A message for all the Alabama players, you know, the US up and for basis come down the faction in south. A lot of. Four seven. I'll go with you on the daughter. I went to the you went to. Stands developed three addictions since he got here. Three addictions, come on down. Knicks highly questionable. And this is who is the stand. This is Josh heart, Josh heart right here. Is that a shot or a pass? Go ahead stand. Absolutely. Bigger problem is Josh hard -absolutely, no idea stand. You are an expert in such matters having opinion, please is that a shot or a pass which one. Time to play again wishes. Jeff, we'll see here in the state. The question you give us topics and events. We question them. I wish your in Gundy was here too. Do you question if this will shot or pass? Okay. This is where we've come to with Laker basketball. They were playing the bucks and neither one of the stars for either team played, but the Milwaukee Bucks ended up winning. And this is who is this stand. This is Josh Josh heart right here is that a shot or a pass at sand. Bigger problem is Josh heart. Had absolutely no idea stand. You are an expert in such matters having opinion, please is that a shot or a pass which was it. I think it was actually a past. But I'm not sure Josh kit answer that question, then that was bad but have seen worse. Oh, let's see worse. Let's see Japan the game. No. Oh is that? What is that? I am not sure I do that is my first year in Detroit L ever, and you get sick. That was standing Gundy's defense was just gonna say force that. Question which dress over was more embarrassing. Okay. You guys might not know this. But we're going to put up a YouTube video right now, if STAN Van Gundy, he's got handled here. He's got handle where he can dribble. A basketball not just love handles. He's got those too, but he's got handled. So he's here to help us with these crossovers. What do we have? Here's Patrick Beverley here. What do you think of that? I'll come on. That's just clumsy Disney. Isn't it wasn't even a crossover? He just drove the wall. Donovan scott. And you're still right. That wasn't even a crossover. So this other one must be better. Let's see what we have here. We've got James harden. Who'd he put on skates. Oh, lord. Oh, he turned him in a circle all the way round. Look James harden does that to somebody once or twice every single night? So he's the guy who can make you look silly. That is how I stumble outta here on Friday, happy hours just like that on defense and just Brisa did that without traveling. Wow. Puppies, just hating. And he every everybody not realize Papi was a player hater, I really didn't. Question. Patrick Beverley played these off. Well, we are covering the holy hell out of Patrick Beverley on this show. No other place where you find it on the network that we have more Patrick Beverley coverage. Let's go back again to Patrick Beverley. Beverly? Still liquor gang. Just walk away on Ernest. Borgnine furious with Patrick Beverley. He's got wearing my shirt is he he's wearing. He's a stylish as you are. That's not insured at all. It's just the shirt. That's vaguely the same color. Do you question if the guy on the white shirt show? Okay. We've got a guy in a white shirt. He's in a slap competition we go out to Russia because why wouldn't you go out to Russia for a slap competition? Oh, wow. Really think nece slept competition at is it appears to be thing. Yes. Certainly thing to the guy in the white jury. Wow. And so the question is if we're honoring the question do you question if the guy on the left choked, really, I don't know if he choked. But he certainly went down. He didn't choke stand. The point of it would just to show you a slab competition from Russia. That's on my favorite slap. What? Wow. Acidity moving. Okay. I think this guy's head is gonna move. Let's say this. Better slap Stanage? Justice covering slap competitions right here on television with the rest of you. Oh. Just knocking out with the slap Diddy. Just dead. Oh xactly. What you just saw. Any question broadcast from the Cleveland, their hotel busy feel south beach. Miami them to begin these so happy that you run out of the playoff in two thousand and nine C. You did you tell us what to watch on television to we tell you for intrigued puppy love stand for that. Say gonna. Tonight on ESPN raptors and thunder surge Baca has a cooking show. I'm interested in this game. But I'm also interested in the cooking show. It's about hunger in the history of highly questionable. There is never been rounder set it usually looks like the number one hundred days just three zero up here. We love cooking shows. What do we have? Coming back next year. That's why Leonard. Yes. That's an excellent episode Leonard more revealing than you've ever seen him saying. Are you intrigued I am see the broadcasting crew is outstanding. Particularly the analyst Mark Jackson is great. Poppy. Are you intrigue? Oh CC. What kind of kooky chilies threat, you see it. Heard me sleeping. You know? What I mean? I see look you tell me if here it looks like some expertise with these bodies with food and those guys look in those bodies, what do they know about food nothing? Tonight the NCA tournament playing game Saint John's vers, Arizona state and North Carolina central North Dakota state come on the tournament has not started. It will not start until the real team star playing. I'm not interested in sixteen seeds. I don't have any interest in this. But Bobby loves those underdog stand. Are you intrigued in this? I am see look I'd rather watch. Chris Mullin the coaches say John's play one on one with Bobby Hurley to coach Erazo state. But with that not happening all watch the game. You know, what I'd rather watch that too. And do you realize how pathetic an indictment of these games that those guys are fifties? Lauper you intrigue all CC. I'm telling him picking up sound one. That's my number one. And then I'm going to south that God, I stay. You know what I mean? Those are my two picks for these still games KOTA states, not playing. He's saying. That same thing except it's not. Tomorrow one. Oh, five PM in Florida Orioles pirates, Bobby what is the name of the pirates catcher, what's his name? Cisco valley as my father loves those names. Let's check in with his workout. What's that look like? Okay. They're hip openers. I'm gonna go ahead and say, they're hip openers. I can't say that this is a hippo. I don't know. What is it? Okay. Very good. Okay. That is okay. That's going to be his doctor stronger. There are a lot more efficient ways to do that. Okay. Very good waste of standing Gundy's time saying are you not buy that workout at all? I would love to watch for it. Cisco survey play baseball. But I have no idea. What that was. He's not interested in any kind of work out at all. That's poppy. Tree. Oh, CC very in too. But you know, what is my favorite workout, you know, between between two, you know, as my favorite workout. They want inside James, let's show it. We all. How does have the cliff? I knew they were going to show that that favorite worked out father really thinks that when he points to things they actually appear really thinks that we cover the secret for. Tonight on Fox Sports west angels and Indians what a cheap excuse to show you the manager of the Indians flying out of an airplane. Skydiving? Let's see what Terry Francona busy doing. About what I thought that would look like. San would you ever do this? Would you ever do anything like that? Poppy, how about you? Would you ever do anything CC? I wasn't really asking that. I just wanted to talk to you and watch Terry Francona cheeks like that watch. I'm here we got panic right there. That's very right there that hurts your stomach and now all your fear is in your mouth. Oh, yeah. Not the most flattering appearances for Terry Francona. Okay. I thought my head was gonna explode. And that you know, why none of us want to do that stand or you intrigue. Not at all. Okay. Very good. Like, you said he's not interested in the sky diving you already heard from my father prematurely. Let's them clip that way. That's only time. We'll have today. Thank you for what. Thanks to STAN Van Gundy for being around here with us wasting his time, we'll talk to you tomorrow choice. Thank you. Oh. And I watched that. Knew it was coming.

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The Sports Reporters - Episode 162 - College Basketball Oligarchs. Trout's record breaking deal. And how will the NFL punish Robert Kraft?

The Sports Reporters

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

The Sports Reporters - Episode 162 - College Basketball Oligarchs. Trout's record breaking deal. And how will the NFL punish Robert Kraft?

"The. Winning journalists New York Times fillers topic abound. No opinion, left unsaid an institution for sports talk in information. This is the sports reporters. Here's Mike Lupu. Mitch Albom at Bob Ryan on Bob. Ryan of the Boston Globe and ESPN Mike loop again SMBC in MLB dot com. I'm Mitch Albom of the Detroit Free Press. Welcome to the sports reporters podcast, the podcast incarnation of the long running TV show on ESPN. That was always on Sunday mornings. This podcast is on Mondays and Thursdays as we speak. The tournament is beginning to Rev up and rather than focus on any one or two particular games. I think the one universality that we can say about this tournament year after year is that there's a handful of coaches that you can argue steer this thing. And for all the teams that come out of the blue or having a great season or the underdog. It always seems to. Come down to chefs Cala pari is a B line. Right. Handful of other guys. Yeah. Williams. I mean, I is this one of those rare cases where it's kind of an oligarchy. You know, there's there's multiple people ruling this sport. And it just depends on who has the recruiting year. And who's got the players. Are you saying it's like Russian oligarchy because if it is I just wanna say, there's no collusion. No, collusion and college basketball. Okay. Hey, here's the thing. When you look at these guys. Nobody looks at baseball managers quite like this. Okay. And Mitch talks about this all the time. There's Bella check and pro football. And then there's everybody else. Okay. But there is this group of guys. And maybe if we stretched it out we could make it into the gang of eight and be line of Michigan belongs in this conversation. Even though. He has not one national champion. But in baseball, it's the general managers who have sort of become the stars. Now, not in college basketball. And if you've got one of these guys, you you hold onto them my party shot today is why it's perfectly natural that you started to hear that UCLA might come after John cale Perry. Okay. If you got one you hold onto them and most of the time cows kind of the exception here when the school gets them, they stay there. Yeah. Well, they make it work. They're wild to stay there. And yes, and you know, that's the thing that the esscalation of salary thing is is, you know. It's amazing. No. And it can you Can Tho behind in there. You know? 'cause you always want is when he won win he won one. And there they they win twenty relentlessly. And no matter what you think they always wanted to find a way to do that. And and and we very recently they came out of a very modest circumstance to make a run of as an eleven seed when he can now he's he's he can coach how close she was to winning to Jerry calm gonna make free throws. Would it be Komi key smart shot? Wouldn't wouldn't Amanda that night? That's correct. Derrick Coleman brick in nineteen we but he felt like it nineteen MRs that they too. Yeah. So no, he's an see. I know this is very good premise there is an oligarchy there isn't elite, and and and Mikey. I know you've touched on it in very recently in in here. Annotating who it is wins the championships and going back twenty years twenty five years, and and and and you know, the common thread is it's big state use plus Duke now Pless Villanova. But, but these are the coaches still who have done it. And but Villanova deserves a couple of the guys in the oligarchy deserve a little special credit because they don't rank number one in recruiting classes, Mark few at Gonzaga. Okay. What was the last time you heard Gonzaga had the nation's number one recruiting class doesn't doesn't have camel? I'm not even convinced that there is against. Mitch I know that they are goes into turnament, but they could be Mitch could becoming from anywhere monopoly on Japanese talent, you'll have to say that. But here's Jay writes, recruiting classes. Okay. Consider this two thousand thirteen thirty six two thousand fourteen forty eight. These are the rankings two thousand fifteen twenty nine two thousand sixteen forty fifth two thousand seventeen twenty eighth. Okay. The they didn't even bother going down that far when they start printing up who had success on signing day and yet year after year Duke is there Kentucky is there. So what right has done with Villanova with you know, if you just go back short term, he's one more than all of them to the last three. I think that he has to have a special not on the other hand he hasn't done anywhere near as long as a chef sqi or as a Williams in multiple places or even as Tom Izzo has been. In arc or Cal. Cal going to the final four with three different schools. That's right. That's right. Do you think it's good that these guys stay where they are as long as they do it really is the only sport where you get that kind of longevity. You know, even even surpreme court Justice. But don't you the reason I ask you guys is it good is. Because it also tends to breed. Relaxed oversight on certain things, and it's not a it's not a mystery that some of these programs. Suddenly have these assistant coaches making these payments or arrangements or things like that. And that's how they get knocked down. I don't know if that comes me cost guys just are there for so long that they just figure they can, you know, they're ruling their own kingdom. Or what what are you guys humilate? You know, I guess we'd have to call it power influence at the very least they accumulate capital to Bobby. You know? And one of the threads with over. That would make some interesting that there's a culture that's the word that gets thrown around loosely, and I'm not sure I can even define what it means. But I think you'd agree that that Villanova has had a culture they won once before thirty three years thirty to thirty four years this year since they beat Georgetown to Ryan. Join MacLean he got it in that basketball to clinch it white to feet in front of me. I was up -solutely, but they have a culture that at matters. They want bet that the going back into fifties for my father was just not letting director when I was six years old Villanova. They cared about basketball. They Cooley care about it. And and they've always cared about it and Jay found a place, you know, the full satisfy his ambitions. But yeah, that that's part of the deal here. You know, Carolina's the tradition is goes back into the fifties. They want in nineteen fifty seven with Mike McGuire. You know? So that's. But but back to the question, but coach cumulate the power sometimes you get into that. Lord acton. Power corrupts absolute power ups. Absolutely. And you wind up with Joe Paterno in football. But and it wasn't entirely there's a name that would be part of this. Because some guys don't stay an and accumulate longevity and capital and power, Billy. Donovan Billy Donovan Mitch it gets forgotten sometimes that the most complete NCAA champion. I have seen in the last twenty years, and it may go back for the net are the to Florida teams that won under Billy Donovan those teams had every single element. You did they had the shooter. They had the point guard. They had they had. No, they had Al Horford. Okay. And and those back to back titles stand with any thing I have seen in college basketball and Billy just decided he wasn't going to be one of those guys. And he nearly went to the magic one time changes might now he's with the thunder and doing a fine job there. But he he could Mitch he could have been an oligarch. Yeah. No. He was fantastic. Coach. I was just goes almost I'm about to contradict myself. Interesting. I was gonna say none of these guys are west of the Rockies except Mark few is west of the Rockies. But I'm kind make a point about the fact that there's no power, but there's no such person in the Pac twelve all now which oughta be a better league. That's another story for another day. That is another story for another day. It's something I've wondered, you know. Okay. John wooden comes along once in a century. But the way UCLA Mike ano-, you're gonna do a parting shot and later on UCLA has fallen off the map the way entire west coast is falling off the map. But the exception of is incredible. And by the way, it's not just there. It's in football to to a large degree, and I'm looking at a list here on my screen of the top football coaches that I'm holding up against the top basketball coaches in college sports, and it seems to me that they move around a lot more with the exception and Nick Sabin. They move around a lot more in college football than college basketball there. They're all urban Meyer, Dabo Sweeney. Brian Kelly Lincoln Riley, a lot of these guys have have moved around in the last few years from school to school. The even though they're considered great, great coaches is that because. In the there's almost like an out in college basketball. Everybody accepts that winning. The tournament is such a crap shoot that you could have the best team in college basketball one given year and just not go home with the title. Whereas in in college football, if you have the best team you're supposed to win it. And if you don't patience runs out, and they want you gone. Do you think that's why guys hold onto their jobs? More in college football in college basketball. It's very interesting because I think you might be surprised about saving because saving is the model for this. Sapien has had three college jobs just for this. Right. And and and it's only been only only in Alabama since two thousand and seven and before that he was at Michigan state and before anyone in national champion LSU and he coached the Miami Dolphins. So even then I mean, there's no coach case I mean, Ryan basically made to famous stops. And there's other guys who. Can talk to. But when you look at saving. Okay, he now becomes the gold standard for stakes. It's it's been a little over a decade for him. There's no coach K's there aren't there. Just aren't in Bejaia. Why do you think that is you think it's endemic to the sport that people just aren't they want change? They want the new thing they want the new offense. They want you know, and they just get tired of people after a period of time. I don't know Mitch I wonder I actually think I think this might sound counterintuitive, but okay, I actually think it's harder to do what? Nick Sabin has done in his sport than even what Mike chefs key has done. I don't know what you guys think I think that that what saving has done in that sport in this time. And maybe Dabo's about to do it at Clemson. Okay. Is even more remarkable than than college basketball because going back to Florida when you do get the right five guys in the right coach, you can do it. There's more to it in college football. And it's not I mentioned culture with regard to Villanova villanovan basketball. And we certainly know that could as football culture at Alabama. But the fact that a matter is that there were many fallow years in there, and there were people there were coaches people forget coach it Alabama. It wasn't a given it now. Bama was going. He is restored the the luster. He is restored the luster that same Ohio State. A Brian the real down period where Michigan just look forward to going down and beaten up on state. And and now, of course, you know, they're they're on beatable. I think there are two things that argue one for each side first of all in college football. You're not considered a success. Just because you made it to the final four. Whereas in college basketball, you are if you get to the final four eve had a great season. And if you didn't end up winning the title it still goes down in your resume is like he's been to five final fours. No don't say how many times you had a win them been the final fours. If you've finished number four in the country and got your tail blown off in the first playoff game. They're unhappy with you in college football. Conversely in college basketball, you generally if you have a really good teams, you get one year, maybe two with your players, and then they're off. And when I say players, I'm talking about your players. It's essentially your quarterback you only had a quarterback every year for one year that would be the equivalent, and by the way, that's what's happening with Oklahoma. And places like that. Let me ask you guys this. Let me ask you guys this, and I'm gonna throw a name at you. And despite as demanding as the fan bases, and I contact as the places in the fan base. Don't you think that Notre Dame even though they have gotten their doors blown off twice in the final four? Okay. Don't you think that that? Brian Kelly has some cap. I mean, do you think Notre Dame fans are? Realistic enough to have seen the disparity between the talent level of Alabama. When they Notre Dame down a flight of steps. And Clemson when they them down a flight of steps, or is it not enough that Kelly hasn't one very interesting case. That's very good question. Because all kidding aside. You use a word that I don't ordinarily associate with Notre Dame fans. Will you know, there's some offshoot of the word real realistic. I I would think Mike that there's a growing number of intelligent rational Notre Dame fans who understand what you just said. Because they never have the best team. Bob aman. They never have the best team. Nobody's ever said. Well, Kelly have the best team. And he didn't do that. We'd have to check and see about, you know, the recruiting classes, and they still are in the top five or so often right in the maybe one of the year somebody said they had the best one. But they, but they, but I agree with you that that that's the way it should be viewed. And I think that there's always. Going to be a hard core. D- bunch of domer- who are not going to be realistic to think that Notre Dame. She win the national championship every year as opposed to the I think growing number a reasonable people that are going to be understanding new landscape that they're living in and unhappy with what they've got. I think far now set with Jim harbor where what does he have to do? Now at miss. Well, that's clear we has to beat Ohio State now with over Meyer Aaron has to compete for a national championship. The patients on him is run out. But I would I would say that. Too bad seasons and Kelly's gone from Notre Dame. I just don't think there's there's patients in college football. Like there is for the body of work in college basketball. Interesting, by the way, you mentioned Notre Dame used to be pretty good at basketball too. And you know, it's been a long time since that. And they've been okay. But you know, they're not worldbeaters generally losing ten ten or more games year. But I it's just an interesting comparison between the two sports, and you get your kingdoms for for longer in college basketball. But I think you have to do more work recruiting recruiting recruiting recruiting, you know, and then out there going in they come, and it's just once more we'll see when this is all over in three weeks. We still looking at three of the four teams are going to be amongst those names that that we mentioned there, by the way exhibit a Mitch of the premise about the getting to the final four is in of itself. A great triumph and sufficient to to secure it would be. Tom Izzo gravy, nineteen years since the one since the wing, right? And yet he's going back and half dozen upwards of a half dozen time line who hasn't wanted it. All. It's it's guess what? It's been awhile since behind one two I got. All right. Let me ask you a question this because this place into the exactly the way Mitch teed us up today. Okay. If coach K wins number six, okay? And he might not have to win in in light of how the sport has changed. Since wooden won his ten is Mike chefs greatest college basketball coach of all time unequivocally. Yes. And it's the people who don't know the some of the young they path for UCLA and not for one instant we disparaging what they did they they played by the rules of the time. And they may very well have one under the kind of circumstances that Jeff ski as had. But the fact that matter is that when he started the running nine hundred six games, I find four was nineteen sixty two they were beaten and sixty two came back to your Slater in one at all. It was a twenty five team tournament you a strictly regional and. So they were placed into the regional into the west regional they had to win four games to win the national championship not six and they were placed in the west, and they were often playing at home in LA and sports arena. And they didn't have to play national teams until they got into final four, and they were beating likes of Santa Clara with the Ogden brothers and Long Beach state. No one hiring game that I'm sure coach tar canyon took to definitely takes was grave. But point is it was easier. Now, he had and still winning all those championships is still exemplary what coach case had to deal with the tournament. That now has got six ounce. You gotta win. And by the way, that's that's harder, and which is set up far differently to make it more rigorous as not regional anyway. So it's yes without question. Dispute. It's not it's not in dispute you you have to take time, Bob, you're right. And you have to take the time and the air is into account and Mike chefs John wooden coach particular was famous for coaching a particular way and bringing a particular philosophy, and he was able to employ it for all the reasons that you just listed Mike chef had to shed his skin multiple times over the course at Duke to become a different type of coach, I'm not just talking about offense of teams versus defensive teams are uptempo where slow I'm also talking about dealing with four year players the grant hills and the Christian leaders in the Bobby Hurley's versus one years out. And he made that turn without you know, in the blink of an eye. He became that guy. And that coaching was able to win with them. And I'll give you an interesting numerical statistics. I'm staring at it right here over the course of the last twenty plus years, he has never had a team with fewer than twenty five wins. When the season was over. That's pretty damn amazing. You know, I I mean not one season with less than twenty five wins. When all said and done. So he's he's in a world by himself against the Senate, wouldn't okay? But the other part of that conversation is, you know, the relationship in those days with a booster named Sam Gilbert and how and how those kids were getting funneled think about the scope of what you said, and I'm not handing him the national championship. And we know anything can happen. We saw anything can happen. The night that Zion went down. Okay. He became the coach of Duke in March of nineteen eighty. Think about that on my God March, and then the other thing you factor into the conversation. Whether the best of all time is him. Bob is in Mitch is work with the national team. I mean, which is only in Hance his stat. That's the Trump card. There's nobody like that is equally conversant and comfortable with the the seventeen or eighteen year old freshman and LeBron James's the gained respect of the James's of the world. While you're you know, you're dazzling eighteen year olds why he's he was the perfect choice to the become too. At a point in time. Remember when we were floundering there was a point in time in two thousand six when the United States of America was the championship of nothing in the international basketball. Right. We were we were neither the champions of the of the world the world champions, nor were the Olympic champions. And and we and he he had to coach game where we lost Greece. I was there and to know what we had to do to get back on top. And he got us there. Two quick things on him in nearly thirty years on the same job. Not a whiff of controversy or import friars. We gotta tell twenty forty sorry here forty. He's been touched. He's not haunted percent. He's been touched. And if in a minute he got involved with with Myron piggy and recruiting Corey mcgarity he entered into that other world, however, much you just stepping his toe in the water. There were other things that happened such as the time that we got the woman's and the story was Chris do Hans mother get a job and Dharma and he's. North Louisiana things happen at Duke, occasionally, okay or two years in an only a brief with of controversy and van record. And let's remember you can't just get anybody into. All right. Do you do have to meet certain academic standards there? So he doesn't pick. He doesn't have the pick of the entire country the way some schools can I know that it's never the same for for college basketball players or college football players may be for the student body in general, but dukes pretty elite university. And and you can't just have a kid who can't spell his name come into the come into the school. 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Because there was a time when I thought Bob Knight was going on his way to being the greatest college basketball coach of all time by the time he'd won three championships at Indiana and the other guy, and I'm telling you for all the reasons we've discussed today, I believe that when this season is over you're going to hear Rick Pitino name back in play. I honestly believe that because he's one of those guys despite despite all the baggage. So we'll be ripped Patino back and play at a at an Indiana like school when when Indiana was good or is it Patino at Texas Tech, which is where Bobby Knight think minor league find a job because nobody would take him. I've heard some of the Texas schools mentioned. But I just all I'm saying is and I'm. Not endorsing this in any way. All I'm saying is for all of the reasons, and it's a perfect way to get out of this conversation for all of the reasons that we have talked about today. I believe some school is going to Bob. What do you think I've thought that the beginning that he would make it back only for a wanna be on on the mid major level that would wanna go that's my guesstimate. So we'll see I I I can't I just find it hard to believe that now that they an jobs open. So let's see. Well, I I'm going to be the detractors here and say that it's not the sport that has changed. The sport would welcome him. If they could figure out a way, but it's the college campus in general that has changed college campuses are incredibly intolerant of anything that smacks of certain types of controversy, particularly sexual offenses and harassment, and that kind of thing I just can't see what school is on the landscape out there that his presence would. Wouldn't ignite Secchi a protest that would be covered on such a national level that it would make the college president run. I I mean, I'll believe it when I see it. And there may be one exception to the rule with college president doesn't care. So he or she is so in love with Patino, and what he could bring to the program that they just weather it and people do get tired of complaining after a while. But boy college campus mentality now is different than it was. And that's what I would keep him out. Okay. Let's jump over to the world of baseball didn't take very long to break price. Harper's record that that didn't last real long. And there's part of me that just says that just envisions this this cartoon bubble over Bryce Harper's head on the phone with his agent, saying, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Where's my money because Mike trout, just blew the doors off of of money becoming the first four hundred thirty million dollar, man. Poor Bryce Harper. Mitch. Aren't you feeling a little sad about the way? He got low balled by the global. Well, not only the local. But now he looks a little foolish. As when his first official act is Philadelphia. Philly was trying to Mike trout, and you know, what I wanna say is having grown up. Exactly where Mike trout grew up. All right. That's where that's my region. I grew up in south jersey and everybody kept saying well wise is he going to to go back there. That's where he grew up and poise. It's just a shoe, and I don't live where I grew up. And if someone had said to me, you know, you have an opportunity to go back to within a couple of miles of where you grew up. And that's okay. I grew up there and I'm living someplace else. Well, apparently, Mike trout didn't his number one desire in the world wasn't to move back. Exactly where where he lived when he was eight years old. He likes it in Anaheim. He likes southern California. He's now going to have actually enough money to afford that lifestyle out there and why not stay? He's going to be there for twelve years. We not corrected. He's been spending off seasons up to now back home already. So so so so once it goes eagles games, he say now. Question. Do you think this might be the the portent that perhaps this team is is going to make that move to Long Beach that has been rumored for longtime and get themselves basically, really into Los Angeles. Long Beach isn't loss. I know. But it's I'll tell you. What's not Anaheim, not Anaheim's near the Orange County? Angels period end of story. I mean, at least the Brooklyn nets in Brooklyn borough guy, like Mike trout, who is notoriously camera shy and doesn't like to endorse. And all the does do you think that matters. I think the bigger question is are they going to be able to win. He's replay off games. He's played three playoff. He has hit one postseason home run. This is this is an again, he's still young. I get this. But he is you would've thought the angels wanna World Series in two thousand two they were a playoff team often under Mike socia-, but he is doing what he's doing. And he has commanded this salary with basically not a whiff of October. No, he's basically not played on the sports grand a stage, and he's clearly going. Against the grain of modern athletic whims, that I'm gonna go hook myself up with a winner. And God how how much how many trillion words of spent talking about what goes on in the NBA ever since? Gentleman, James, you know, put the heat together. And so he's not one of those guys. Clearly, you know, he's he's he's comfortable in his own skin. Doing it the way he does it. And and, but he's obviously likes everything about the circumstances. Got he would commend, you know, I don't know on the open market. God knows you know. But I wait a minute. He would command on the ope what open market is going to pay him more than he just got. Well, Mark it are you talking about. I'm just saying, I know I just thought it out there. I don't know something obviously is agent. Craig Landis must have explored to see what was whether it was any possibility anybody else, but what is a lot of play here. It's him. And it's what it says about the angels as well. And what they think they can accomplish, you know, in in the near future as era member they're very much involved as much as they are not. And I totally agree. I've been I used to call them I used to when they were calling himself to Los Angeles angels. I started doing it. I used to use that when I would I would write the Orange County American League baseball club. That's what I seriously. I call them into any of us have been privileged enough to live the life that we lead and travel and know that the L A that Orange County and an LA don't even like each other. It's not it air separate markets, baby. Not the same. I like the ball. You know, what I actually liked that ballpark? I liked it. When you go there you can walk to the ballpark from your hotel. There are charms about being the angels, except they don't win anything. They have won more World Series into twenty first century, then the dodgers will school give them that. Yes. That will. It'll be seventeen years though, this this October since that happened and one manager away ago. So yes, but they haven't fact one more recently ended dodgers, although the dodgers sitting on seven state, six straight division titles and being frustrated beyond that, but they have had their success. But clearly right now. No, they're not. I was shocked. I did not see this coming. I thought all the big contract news had been made. I thought that might trout was at least going to explore the opportunity the first chance he got to come east this one this one honestly gobsmack Mitch I did not see that coming. I think people have misread Mike trout, a lot of people people presume a lot of things about Mike trout that he continually sort of disproves. And I think one of those things is that they think he thinks like everybody else thinks which is. Go here one and we'll go with the winner. Like, you said, Bobby? I wanna go home well might try to clearly zone guy, and despite many many attempts by his agents and the people around him and the people in southern California, and he's he may not be in L A. But he's close enough to drive up Mike if they wanted to turn them into some kind of Hollywood movie star if he wanted to go to the parties there if he wanted to he could do all that. He's that great a player he has no interest. None. And they fight with them consistently. The try to get him to do anything, you know, to even endorsed. And I love this think about this. He's the little Braun of his sport. Okay. He's the brawn minus the play offs. And how many people who read about that contract? We got the big wild factor. Mitch how many people who have seen him play five baseball games in their lives? Right. Right. Well, some of that is because of his low key fashion some of it as because they're on the west coast, and nobody sees those games. And a lot of it is. Because they haven't been in the postseason. Remember remember that you know, back in two thousand five six seven eight nine and they were a good team. They finished first place. A lot of the times they went to the playoffs. It's not as if there's some kind of poison to Anaheim ever being in a postseason for about six years. They're five out of six years. They were in it. So why can't the way they're looking at this? I'm sure is will why can't we do that? Again. Why can't we have a fertile period? Here. I have read I don't know that they have a decent farm squad. Now coming up, they got some good prospects. They've been working on that for a while. They obviously have Shohei Ohtani once he's healthy. It's not going to be this year. But, you know, talk about a one two punch in terms of draws if he does come back healthy and just focuses on pitching. You know, you got guys to make people come out to the park. I have seen articles granted written by five thirty eight and things like that. That have said that this is a bargain that that when all is said and done because of how young he is. And this contract will only take until thirty eight. If he sees the end of it that this will prove to have been very prudent business deal to do this now in lock him up. If he continues in this kind of fashion on it's while it's hard to believe the four hundred and thirty million dollars is ever going to be considered a prudent business deal. Who knows maybe they're going to be right? No people. There are people who claim that it is a prudent business deal. And in that regard that he's actually be might even be dare I say underpaid. That's that's that's theory. It's not my before we leave the national pastime today. And what Mr Ryan calls the greatest game ever, invented by mortal mind, let's talk about an immortal who is nearly two decades older. Than Mike trout is each Suzuki who played his last game in one of the most theatrical baseball goodbyes of all time because it occurred back in in Tokyo, the only sad thing. And if you saw the pictures, they were wonderful and emotional and spoke to the beauty of this game. And it's love for history in two countries. Okay. Is that he finished with an offer today? He went over four against the as in Tokyo. The thing is is remarkable. He comes over here at age twenty seven as a eight or nine year veteran of the Japanese lake. We had had success. Japanese pitchers had had prior success. But no Japanese position player had chief anything of substance in America. And always does get two hundred hits the first ten years career win. Win rookie year at the same time. When we went to the guy in the history, you can argue about you know, that the semantics of whether we should have been a rookie. And I I would probably if I had to take a vote again vote. I would've said no this is not a, but I. Against the fact that seven years of his career don't count on our numbers. And if he had come here as a legitimate rookie with the kind of talent that he had to be had been playing when he was twenty one or twenty two God knows what records he would own in in baseball. I mean, his numbers are are off the chart. Good. And also he ushered in it's hard to remember that you know, it was there were rules about win. Japanese players could come over back then. And you know, we still had a bit of a wall up around are quote, unquote, national pastime when he first began his career here. And now it's such a given that baseball and all of our sports really are so international, but he was one of one of the real pioneers of that. There was resistance to it back. Then we forget that. There was resistance in the NBA. There was resistance in in in in in baseball too. You know, having the. The far east influence and guys coming from other places. And and he broke that down any broke it down not only with this talent. But with his absolute professionals, Mike he played for the Yankees. A couple years I presume you got to know him a little bit. I know it would be silly for me to say that. I did. I mean, I don't think anybody really got to know him. Well, I let me temper observe him. Never. He never. He never did anything that wasn't. I mean, it's kind of reflective of if you read his life story, you know, as father was one of these guys who just two hundred two hundred hits off the tee in two hundred hits from his throwing them every single day of his life when his a little child, plus fifty ground balls. It was it was all very methodical. He likened wants to hazing like his whole childhood was that was a college hazing, you know. And his father told his coaches don't ever praise him. You know, he needs to develop a spirit where he's not pricey could see how he became very sort of methodical and mechanical about it. But he was always gracious. He was always always had you know, it was not unusual for Japanese players. The whole notion of humility he didn't wanna take was Randy Johnson's number. Remember that you know? And he wrote a note making sure that it was. Okay. So I think he he wore the mantle. Well, and you know, young people may not appreciate how much he meant to the game because they take it for granted so international, but he broke down those Bob four thousand three hundred sixty seven hits in two countries. Okay. Rose was forty to fifty six and we can only imagine. And there's nothing that we saw in the big leagues for us to think that if he had started in in the United States when he started in Japan that he would not be the all-time hits later leader from baseball. Oh, no, no question. Let's not forget also he was excellent defensive player with one of the great outfield. It's a great arm, and he he was proficient base. Stealer. Very proficient bass. Dealer, and you know, it so also just looking up curiously in the first ten years of his career the most times grounded into a double play was eight and in one year grad once we know how well we could run. He was no this you're gonna look at some future generations and look at this numbers and say whom I got and you do you do realize I got because there are going to be. Say disparaging people, but yeah. But people who may soon may have a vote when hall of fame comes in terms of unit. I hear his voice he doesn't he didn't Johnny walks. That's such a big deal in the modern game. Oh place three. You mean walk into the hall of fame first year of eligibility. No. He are you kidding me? The unanimous unanimous thing that's all. I'm just preparing you. You will hear this his OB was three fifty five lifetime. So that don't dumb just preparing you some idiot is going to try to look at this man's career. Okay. What he did from the age. He was when he got to the United States, and we'll just take Japan out of the conversation and say, okay, he what we know about him. We started knowing on day one in the big leagues. What he did as a hitter was the same thing that Warren Spahn basically did as a pitcher which was winning three hundred sixty three games in the big leagues pretty much starting at the age of twenty six because he'd been busy with a little thing called battle of the bulge. Okay. And this Bob, I agree with you. When when the time comes there will be dissenters. I don't think he'll be unanimous. But in my book, he's a unanimous first ballot hall of Famer to me, I mean, I would not be one of those people, but I'm just. Warning, you're going it someone's going to throw this up. He didn't walk in. And well, if they throw it up, I hope they say it exactly like, you just said it because that's how it should desert. You know, there was a quick way. You could save money. Switch to Geico. Oh, it takes fifteen minutes to find out if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. And Geico offers coverage for more than just car insurance. Got a motorcycle. Geico's got you covered. Got an RV covered got a boat covered. Now. How about homeowners or renters insurance? You bet. Geico's got you covered. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. That's geiko dot com push shift here to your backyard. Bobby and Robert Kraft, the developments on this story, and Florida are are only interesting from sports point of view in that what is the NFL going to here. He was offered by the thirties down there a plea deal that basically they would they would expunge the record and squash the evidence and all this stuff. If he basically admitted that. Had he gone to a trial. He would have he would have done something wrong. He would have been convicted. And apparently Robert Kraft said I'm not having any of that. I'm not having anywhere on record that I admit that I did anything wrong or whatever. And now there's a tempts by his lawyers to squash this evidence, which let's face it. If if somebody got a hold of this tape and put it out on on Instagram YouTube wouldn't matter no matter what he said. And that's the way a lot of things in the being done in the world today and in the NFL. So my question that you guys is what obligations does the NFL have here, regardless of what ultimately happens with his legal status. I don't think anybody thinks that his lawyers can't outmatch the lawyers down in Jupiter Florida area when all set and done, but the NFL doesn't need a conviction as it's proven to to take some serious measures witness Ray rice. Against its players, or it's they say the players are the same as the owners. So how much is this lack of a legal, you know, stamp going to let him escape punishment gonna scape. Do you think he's escape up? No, I don't I don't see how they can. Although it's going to be interesting because we're talking about here was punishing him for lack of discretion. He's going to get off legally. I think we know that he's going to get the he's not going to spend a second in any kind of incarceration. What kind of you know, the wind up with some community service stuff on? But the point is they have to protect the image of the league and the image league. It's not going to be enhanced by the idea that one of their two most famous owners and influential owners was caught doing stupid absolutely idiotic mindless stupid thing, you know, for person of of the age of seventy seven with with the social status of him. He this is not the way that they wanna be. I think of Boston as now the red light district of sports. I think Ryan is talking to us today from the red light. And sure do they win all the championship? Just they do. Do. We win in New York and Detroit. No, we don't Mitch. But you know, what our owners hanging around at massage parlors. Do they still have the combat zone down? When I was in college. It was you. It's six thousand years ago. It's been gentrified. It's no more. That's a phrase that would be unknown to today's collegiate. Yeah. Well, billy. We all certainly knew it. Well, then but he's not going to get up. He's I no way that that just if you use Jim Ursa as an example that he will clip or say the way he did Goodell and not clip Robert Kraft for this, and what's going to get even more interesting. Now, the story is that Trump still wants to come to the White House. Oh, what a photo op that will be. Well, I don't know. I hear what you're saying. I respect with both of you were saying it's likely but without a tape without an actual legal. Arrest? And I again, I don't know Bob how we went from a they've got him dead to rights. They've got tape of him twice doing this to. Oh, they have no case. I mean, if you if at some point, they say, okay, you're not gonna take the plea deal that we have here. I I mean, what basis do the lawyers have to say, I'm sorry. You can't use that tape there. Still the authorities aren't they if he really did something wrong. How is it that doesn't find its way to a court? I've always thought he was going to somehow in some fashion lawyer himself out of that because I just that's where I have the bar set to the legal system. But what I will say is could Dell has made it quite clear in the past that he is not bound by indictments or arrests indictments or convictions as he himself is acting as judge ROY bean. That's all I'm saying, right? But but doesn't he okay? Ray rice situation, they had the tape. So every. Saw the tape. So no matter what ended up whatever everybody saw the tape wasn't. He really wasn't convicted of anything member. He basically from the New Jersey legal system. Get a slap on the wrist. Right. That's what I'm saying. But they have. But there was a tape and everybody saw the tape and Goodell saw the tape. He's not seeing this tape. So my question to you is like, okay. What is he basing his punishment on if he doesn't see the tape either? So all he has is Robert Kraft saying, I didn't do anything and some people in Florida saying he did do something. But we can't show you what it is. How does Cadel meteoroid punishment based on that? And what does he exactly punishing him for? League. There has to be no elastic clause availability here for any Commissioner Goodell included. Yep. He's embarrassed shield involved on this just for being involved -solutely. I mean, that's it's unseemly. We can go. Search the dictionary. What is mine? No. He's going to get suspended. I believe suspending suspending he can't come to his own games for a couple of games. That's what happened couldn't be involved with the team, right, Mike. What was the scope of steinburner back in the day of the punishment? And he got a year. Yeah. But I mean, the, you know, we all know, you know, he had to turn over the running of the team. And basically it changed the history of the New York Yankees because that is weighing Jean-Michel in Buck Showalter rebuilt the Yankees. Yes. Remember when just remember jimmer say was find a half a million bucks and a six game suspension hours after he pleaded guilty to a charge of driving while and toxic. Kate it in an Indiana courtroom. Okay. That's a lot different than what's going to happen here. He's not going to court. According him. Don't forget that the x factor. Here is how much the commission will take a new idea. They sex trafficking thing and the nature of this. This is the scope this is the haunt tested. Now that now they're saying that the women involved here weren't victims of put that come. But maybe those two specifically weren't, but the fact is that the the other employees were an en- him to have any direct or any involvement in this is entirely shocking and for the league from the league point of view, and and and disgusting and a fly off to a playoff game. You know? Context is gonna matter here context thing of the sex trafficking thing, it's not just a guy wanted to go get a can I say, you know, what job? No, it's not that. It's more much more deeper much deeper than that. And Goodell will have to know that if he goes light on him that is going to be thrown back at him big time, and it's going to it's going to be. He's got no Mitch I really got to come down fairly hard on equipped here for that reason. If no other reason, we'll see no-one complementary in their paycheck is correct nobody does. But make one mistake, and you risk alienating your entire workforce. With Kronos, we make sure your payroll is done, right. 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He sent the tweet out because of those stories circulating that UCLA which got rid of Steve Alford right before the start of the new year was interested in trying to lure Cal away from Lexington. And it would have been a smart play by UCLA and tells you everything about them as they once again start all over again in the endless search for the next wooden. They've made final four since when retired that even wanna title under-, Jim Herrick, but it is a longtime since they have felt like the royalty. Of the sport. What wouldn't did feels distant there? What Lombardi did in Green Bay? Now, it UCLA the looking for the latest guy, they think can lead them out of the wilderness as another tournament starts without them. Now little bit more. Basketball. You know, the may have heard guys the NCAA tournament is with us and so much at stake. The referees will be scrutinized. Now, I'm always eager to be of service. You know that? So I have a few helpful hints. Could I love the oft beleaguered officials number one Mike you may have heard this before ask yourself? Why the bleep am? I here. The answer is not to show off how much and how well memorize the rule book. I am here to adjudicate. The smooth flow of the game. Got that number to go easy on the rebounding thousand especially when someone has clear possession of the ball and an opponent, which is in with a little slap or whatever play on the specially in the final two minutes of close game. Number three. Do not help decide the game with ticky tack foul. Forty feet from the basket in the final minute of play. Yes. The final minute is different than the first. You're damn right. It is. And finally led a coach whose team has just lost a close call. You know is going to piss off someone blow off some steam walk away. Don't be altering games with unneeded self aggrandizing techs any other questions. Well, you know, where to find me, I'm always here. So I'm reading about Mike trout and his massive contract. And I figured record. He just smashed must be that of Bryce Harper. But no truth is the previous high Mark in terms of total dollars belongs to are. You ready Cannella Alvarez the red headed Mexican fighter who into three hundred sixty five million dollar deal with the zone. A streaming service out of Britain. Now, be honest. Did you know that Alvarez was considered that bankable? It's a five year eleven fight deal three hundred sixty five million dollars. Remember the days when promoters had a scramble to fill up the per one fight at a time not anymore. Streaming is the way to go and does owns fights aren't even that expensive. They did one of Alvarez's recently for nine ninety nine. How did they do it volume and with HBO out of the boxing business? Now does almost figured it's got the market somewhat corner still with boxing so off the map. We forget. That there's I'll vote load of money still left in it Alvarez's considered by most to be the best pound for pound fighter out there. Although he did lose to -ployed may weather. But did you even know what titles? He holds. Do you follow the catchweight division? Well, someone does they don't hand out three hundred sixty five million for good looks frankly, I'm surprised Scott Boris allowed Bryce Harper to fall short of this Mark who knows maybe he didn't know about it either that's going to wrap it up for today's program. And we thank you for joining us on the sports podcast, which we do each Monday and Thursday. So we'll be back right after the opening weekend of the NCAA tournament talk about all that you can catch us where you popular podcast, including on Stitcher. So make sure you do that. We will see you in a few days and until then good luck to your team in the tournament. Good luck with your brackets and behalf of Mike Lucan, Bob Ryan, this Mitch Albom. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Doug Gottlieb and Robert Klemko (04-16-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Doug Gottlieb and Robert Klemko (04-16-19)

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Where he cited the interview the Cuyler did with this program during Super Bowl week, and that had some fallout there with Kyle Murray, and the people representing him, and even the NFL front office is close watch of that interview he conducted with us whether that will prevent him from being the number one pick overall what it does to his draft stock as we get closer to the NFL draft less than two weeks away. Day. So we'll talk to Robert clump co about that profile. Russell Wilson has signed a huge deal and it's a four year extension. So he's in Seattle for five years. So so much for the rumors that he wanted out so his wife Sierra could be closer to New York and have more opportunities for her career Zion. As made it official. He's going pro Sixers beat the nets clippers come back and beat the warriors. It's the biggest comeback in NBA history. Thirty one points down at Golden State. And it looks like according to reports from Christine's on yahu sports that boogie cousins could miss the rest of the postseason tonight magic raptors Spurs nuggets thunder and trailblazers if you'd like to watch you can I like to watch be our live dot com and audience that we're channel two thirty nine. That's direct TV our Twitter handle with DP show. And we say good morning to our three hundred sixty radio Phillies around America. Mclovin update the poll results, and then we will resume the Twitter war between Doug, Gottlieb and stuff on marver. If you could have any of these three quarter. Max for the next five years. Andrew luck Iraj IRS or Russell Wilson. Who would you take like is still leading? Russell wilson. Second Rogers there. All right. Well this day in sports history coming up, by the way, we did invite stuff on Marbury to join us and for t- tried to track down we do cover both sides here. But what happened was Doug Gottlieb tweeted out that biggest myth is New York City basketball. And what it was in reference to that. I was looking for was this was about the Saint John's basketball job that Bobby Hurley decided to stay Zona state, and you know, Doug, put it out there. And then all of a sudden stuff on Marbury started crushing Doug Gottlieb, personally, never answering the question that Doug posed in the first place or the statement that he posed and then Baron Davis even came in for you know, a late swing at the knockout here with a godly. So I thought wait a minute. They're they're not answering the question. What's doug? Doug is talking about. There have been great basketball players from New York City historical ones. But they're over hyped. I can look at you know, as many as you can say, all you got Kareem. And you got Bob Cousy you've got Chris mall, and I got fully pay. Lopez Sebastian tell fair, you know, there's so many guys who've been over hyped because it's New York City. And I think that appeared to be what Doug was trying to say it's a fair topic there and Doug Gottlieb joins us now. Well, you started at Doug or you happy. Yeah. I don't I have no problem with it. I mean, you know, like, you know, I I actually really enjoyed watching Baron Davis play growing up. My dad thought he was had a chance to be the greatest point guard to ever play. And maybe he didn't hurt his name in college. He would have been. But I I don't know where he he obviously just has no idea what he's talking about my dad's actually a New Yorker he was he he's not alive. So he can't defend himself. But he told me he was the first white guy ever played at the Rucker. His nickname was though the white boy from Long Island. So we used to go back every summer, and he'd get me in games at west fourth, which is a famous pickup all area go to Harlem and play whatever. So it's not like, I don't know what I'm talking about New York. It's it's just the idea look around the NBA playoffs, and you tell me where all the New Yorkers are, oh, the great New York City point guards, you know, of the past there of the past the past ten fifteen years where are they? What is the reason? And. I think there's a myriad of reasons. I would guess a lot of it's at the grassroots level. I know, you know, a lot of the kids, you know, high school they end up going to New England prep schools, but it's got to be something. In terms of the cost of living in the city that people are spread out to different suburbs. I think allow the population obviously, looked at Texas and Florida I mean, those are in California, those are wellsprings for, you know, great talent. But I also think the way in which the game is taught. And I mean, just I mean think about think about who's playing right now in the NBA plaster sixteen teams is fifteen guys on teams where the New Yorkers whereas play guys Seattle guys dudes from Texas guys Florida, and then Charlet and DC and Baltimore and Philly. There's lots of Billy dudes, you know, where there's plenty of of European players. And so, you know, the thought is well like Saint John's jobs open. Why would anybody take it because you got all this ball players? They're just there's not the depth of. Talent there's coal Anthony, Greg, Anthony, son. And that's about it in terms of the top level guys that just they're not. They're not popping up the players like they used to. And yet east coast guys were always over hype. That was kind of part of the deal we own their ring. Great ones. You know, you got Kenny Anderson Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, runner tests, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I mean, there's there's a lot of players. But you know, the the point that you're saying is where are they now? And maybe that Saint John's job is not as coveted as it would have been when Louis carnesecca was there. No, no question about it. No question about it. I think it's funny that Steph started by talking about how he he kills me every time he played against me. I was gonna same basketball floors in one time once it was gonna go round ball. Classic Chauncey Billips got hurt. And so I got a late minute. Call last minute call and I got selected Sonny Vaccaro always sponsor our teams, and you had to be a sunny guy in order to get an invite to that thing. Let's you're like a top five, dude. And I own my own he didn't play. Well, he's like one of nine from the floor. Jeff. She jump shots to get missing. And, you know, so this idea that that they would take turns like, okay that that's not the way. I remember it and I got I have pasted every game. So that's okay. You know, like, look, this is this is the untold story about, you know, if you wanna be a white point guard in basketball, you're going to have to have guys that come at you because they think well, your dad got you there. You're only there 'cause you're the token white, dude. That's okay. Okay. Like, that's part of the trash talkers part of the sport very much of the you can play you can't play an ultimately that gets exposed, you know. So I if he had all world town. I thought you said it best like if I was born with his athletic gifts. I'd still be playing in the NBA first ballot hall of Famer, but you know, I'm not gonna sit here and turn it into personal, you know, for for for Steph, all I can tell you is he said on Twitter as you said, he changed what I was discussing and may personal about me and about my late dad and was just not true. I mean, look this tape it exists. It's the nineteen ninety five Magics around ball classic. And he didn't do and he didn't do any. There's nothing really special about the game that day. So I don't really know what he's talking about. Did you whether you can just make things up but did you play against him in basketball Cam? No, not once CD. We never we literally never he was on the other court. But again, this is kind of typical for New York is right. Like, there's a famous game the ABCD was fairly Dickinson my single into my senior year, and he had he had a move where he crossed up to dudes and dunked on Donna foil, and they like stopped the game with thirty seconds to go. It's one of the best ever seen my game just finished on the opposite court. But like again like that's New York City stuff where they would rather stop a game to the guy dumped on somebody then actually play winning the basketball game. The Dow so Doug what what more I gotta I gotta go in the Newark out shows had a team with shit Shammgod Welles, God sham gone Felipe Lopez and stuff on very and everyone said like, hey, if you wanna play the gauchos playing in the morning 'cause those dudes they who the owls and sure enough they got beat by think Mayfield Bassin's team in Dallas like we were at the same turnament their head more than hamlet talent. They just didn't win anything 'cause they were so busy being your dudes and hanging out. Do you? If I could set it up on west fourth street you against Steph on Marbury one on one and I'm four blocks away from the west fourth street cage. Would you take on stuff on Marbury right now? I came home, and I get beat. I mean again like. That's five on five game. And he's still a professional basketball player. I caught for a living. I don't reliving. My my plane is are are are over. I'm I'm I play in celebrity games against against TV hacks. Only only and dudes that are badly out of shape. But I play I'd have fun. It'd be great. I have no doubt that he is. He is still athletically more gifted than I would. But I'll tell you what you give me four dudes. They can play and you give him for that can play. We have a chance. I love it. Last time we play sports to have more points than the other team. How about you? Get the danettes against stuff on Marburg. I said guys that could play. Okay. All right. My my my. Yeah. Can I can I get you? Can I get used funded up in the corner? Yeah. That's me in the corner. That's that's three and a corner. Yep. I'll be there. I'll be more than happy to help you out a little bit against Moore. Very I still think that was the point. I was trying to make stuff on more berry better be better than you. It's they're missing the point. Nobody answered the question of what you said. And it's a valid question. Saint John's is not a coveted job. Well, look, and in fairness, like, I didn't contextualized it that's at Twitter or on a forty characters you want, and you know, but but the idea that you take that make it personal thing. And then the lack of you know, it's like no disrespect disrespect to Baron Davis. I've forgotten more about basketball and even York basketball than he he no I, and I was a lot of things the player like I couldn't shoot. If you left me alone in the gym. I'd struggle to score ten points. But I definitely was not a soft basketball player. No one ever accused me of being song. So I I don't know where where that jumps from right? Like, I think he thinks I have it out for them because I wanted to transfer UCLA, and they chose him over me like they'd have to be idiots to not choose their day. Right. So just to prove that that that Jim Harrison lavon were not complete idiots they chose correctly. Anyway, the the point is I look I, you know, I have contextualized it and said, hey, where the players last ten fifteen years wise. Yes, is, you know, and and and I mean look Toronto's pumping out player after play after looking all these guys the GTO the greater Toronto area. There's ten times the players coming out of there. Then are coming out of New York City. I I don't I'm not doing a history lesson as to why. But just look at the numbers of college players that are contributing and then the NBA players who still playing where they from. And why is that let's trace that back and for a city that boasts itself as the greatest producer of basketball talent that that that is all huffing blaster that that lacks reality in the last ten to fifteen years. Thank you. We appreciate it anytime. Oh, yeah. Doug did leave out a small item like this in relating to the Saint John's John that you know, why would Bobby Hurley turn that down? He's from Jersey City. You know, the context of it is lost. And that's where he got torched. Because now all of a sudden Marbury thinks you're criticizing me. And Doug is not Doug saying, you know, the contrary there are no more stuff on Marbury that's part of the problem here. But that's that's lost. Because it wasn't contextualized. And then I like Baron Davis swinging from the west coast there with Doug Gottlieb, if you're not better than Doug and your Baron Davis and stuff on Marbury, you know, come on. That's not what Doug is saying. We know that they're better. God. God I dragged you Dougie doodoo like come on. We did call for Marbury. And who knew he had this kind of personality like he was those are hall of fame tweets there. I started reading an I go wait where did this come from? Where it was about a godly. All right. We have this day in sports history. Pauline got anything. Good for me today. It's not great nineteen thirty nine. Boston. Bruins beat the Maple Leafs to win. The Stanley Cup was the first time a best of seven series was used to be best of five nine hundred forty the first no hit no run game to be thrown on opening day for major league baseball season. Bob, feller ob- Cleveland Indians beat the White Sox one zero and nine hundred ninety nine Wayne Gretzky announced his retirement from the NHL after game on April eighteenth number ninety nine in one thousand nine hundred nine it is announced his his retirement this day in sports history. Brought to you by the great folks at continental tire the extremecontact DWA so six the ideal all season tire to get you where you need to go from Sunday rain to snow continental tire his engineered to tire for what you do. No matter. How you drive where you drive what you drive continental tire has a tire for you. More details continental tire dot com. Yeah. Doug talked about west fourth street. I I've told the story before the movie sex lies and videotape was playing across the street at the theater, and my wife said you wanna come in and watch this movie guy. It reviews, and I said, no, I'd rather go over here and play basketball. So she goes in and watches the movie two hours later, she emerges. I've yet to get into game at west fourth street, and it if you've ever been in these scenarios, even if you haven't been all enlighten, you you had guys who would be playing in saying that they were losing guy would was dribbling up the floor. And he goes I got next. So so he's losing. And he's already saying I got next and I couldn't get their attention. I was doing everything possible. You know, when they they go to the other end. So the, you know, the so they're one end, and then you shoot around when they go to the other end. So I'm shooting three you. I'm like deep. I'm dunking. Like, I'm going anybody. Just noticed me. Nobody noticed nobody cared. And then I couldn't get in the game. My wife comes out. And then she said, you're not even sweating. I said I haven't played yet. And she goes put there were only like twelve. Is there? So there were there were ten or eight on the floor, and then there were four waiting. So then they just kept changing teams that I'm like. Hello. Hey, I could not get into a game. It was four St. how sad is that? I got to shoot around. They're mclovin. We walked by the other day. There was literally no one there. Oh my gosh. We just reenacted we get you. It's not to say. I've broken down, man. Yes. Yes. For did. You have enough courage to say I've been waiting all day. Somebody get me in here. What's going did? But it fell on deaf ears. I get one point I walked on the floor on the court, and we were getting ready to play. And so there were nine guys on the floor. And I was the night guy. They just started playing around. I walked off the floor. And I said I'll be and there were you know, guys who and they argue over everything. So the game a game to like eleven takes an hour at feels like because they argue over every call the score. Every it got to the point. I was keeping score. Just so I thought it could expedite this. They're like eight seven now, it's. When you're doing. Now, are you doing the possession arrow? Number was. Yeah, paulie. We went by west fourth street. It's a lot different than it was twenty five years ago twenty years ago. There's people standing out there with kale smoothies and Pottery Barn bags watching. And there's no basketball going on is empty. Well. They play a lot of handball over there. Yeah. That that's big to clean is different. Yeah. But this is back in the eighties. And it was a little CD your time there, and they just kinda sad. You know, a golden boy I had my fingers in the the chain link fence, and I'm just looking on. And I I'm so close, but I'm so far away from getting in the game Yanic club. You know, where the real games at right now here in Brooklyn. Hey, thirty Saturday mornings. Led by one guy you'll he's like sixty seven drinks Gatorade. And Pepsi before. He gets on the court a giant thing that just drained forty footers, but can't cover anybody. Have you guys like oh baby strollers by the court? I love that. All right. More on Cuyler Murray the profile in Sports Illustrated, sl dot com. Robert Clem coat did the deep dive on Cuyler Murray. And the interesting part is we probably wouldn't have him on. If he didn't mention the damn Patrick show interview during the Super Bowl, but hey, you know, we're transparent here. It's one thousand nine after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. 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And now I thought from Geico motorcycle it took fifteen minutes to click on the banner ad entitled, you won't believe what these child stars look like now be dissatisfied and kinda sad about how the child stars look. And now your computer is plagued by incessant Papa bads can't be to add insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen click bait minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance to gyco. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. I got a stat of the day here. Christian yelich hit three home runs last night. He drove in seven runs since the twenty eighteen all star break. So that's eighty two games. He's batting three sixty four with thirty three home runs. So thirty three home runs in eighty two games. Eighty nine RBI's all of those marks are tops in the National League over that span. Days of the day that best out of the day stat of the day. Here comes that. What stat of the? Also, there was a story attached to Christian yelich because there was a girl who had a sign that said to two young. I think there were sisters. Hey, if you hit a home run, my data bias, a puppy and yelich went out in hit three home run. Now. I don't know why they didn't get three puppies. But then he went and got the puppy to give to the fans. I would think dad would wanna be the guy who got the puppy for his kids. But you know, yelich come on. I mean. You have hit a home run. Usually, you're hitting a home run for somebody who's on their deathbed or something you get a puppy. How about a pony. I'm going to go all in. I'm gonna pony. I don't wanna puppy. Hey, if you Homer get a pony, then yelich springs pony to the game. Yes. Paul. He'll be bringing in banners dad sent me to private school. If you go yard dad dad will pay for me to get into USC. If you Homer, yes. Bryce harper. Please donate to my five twenty nine fun with good double, by the way. Bryce Harper struggling a little bit, mclovin. Honeymoon is over juicy. Oh, I was watching Clayton Kershaw. Megan. His first start for the dodgers. He went seven innings allowed two runs. Five hits. One of the home runs. Aseel going. First pitch you ever saw from Kershaw home run, but jock Petersen hit the home run to beat the reds. I mentioned the article with Robert Clem co on the Monday morning quarterback where he talks about Kyla Murray. And specifically mentions the interview that Keiler Murray did with us at the Super Bowl. And and I've mentioned this for a while. I mean, it was awkward. I wasn't quite sure what was going on. But something was going on because his dad was on present there. But Robert clump, go rights, then at at an appearance on the Dan Patrick show. The host brought up spring training pro football the possibility of doing both all of which left Murray visibly uncomfortable. The prep flew out the window Murray. Went quiet stared off camera towards his father Kevin Patrick adapted. Redirecting questions at dad who said, no comment. No comment, Robert Clem coach joins us. Now. How important was that interview with Cuyler Murray? You know, I think a lot of people around the NFL executives GM's owners looked at that. And said, you know, this is weird. It's it's very odd to see somebody who who seems so unprepared to answer. What was what had to be? Everyone's number one question, you know, when he showed up to Super Bowl week pushing Gatorade. But I also I don't know if that impacts what happens in the draft. Is there is there any impact you think on if Arizona's gonna take him or somebody would would normally want to go up and getting but won't because of that. You know, I think that there are teams that might have fallen in love with him as a player who don't love his personality. And that's not just you know, the interview on the Dan Patrick show that's interactions with him and his family at the combine during the top thirty. Visit you know going up to places like Texas mino- you and talking to people there about, you know, his career, you know, I think what happened with you is symptomatic of this larger thing where Keiler is very unexpressed give and there's this impression within a fell people that his dad is is driving his career and his career decisions. And that he just along for the ride, and I think that that has scared some teams, and maybe not necessarily dissuaded somebody from going up and getting him. But you know, if he does fall, I think that that would contribute your April third mock draft had the raiders trading up to get Cuyler Murray. You think there's? Are still interested in doing that? You know, I I think the cardinals would be interested in doing that. You know, they've trade partners for they've got to find a trade partner for Josh Rosen. And and I think until they do that all these mock drafts are are moot. But you know, there's a scenario where the raiders could get him at four, you know, if he falls if the cardinals ultimately decided not to pick him, you know, these mock draft, I please don't hold me accountable for them. Nobody ever gets them. Right. Yeah. But I I'm just curious the philosophy behind some of this that, you know, Oakland down saying they're not interested in a quarterback or they may trae down. Like, I don't believe anybody at any time, certainly as we get ready for the draft. I just there's no reason for somebody to be transparent here. I'm also speaking of transparent you have Cuyler Murray's dad his involvement. Did you get a chance to talk to him for this article on Kyla Mer? Yeah. So I wrote the article, you know, we we've been working on it for two months. And then as a reporter, you know, you take the findings of a story, especially when they cast somebody in a negative light or questionable light, you take those findings to the person. And then say would you like to comment, you know, confirm deny what have you? And then that's when the Murray said, okay, we'll talk to you. And so I you know, I got a chance to briefly interview both Kevin Missy Murray and Cuyler Murray. So that that's that was kind of their contribution to the story was was this effort to refute. Some of the things that were written. I never heard we tried to get Kayla. Marie on again. I don't know. We will. I I hope so do they do they blame me for how this played out because I I never heard from their side. No. You know, I think they blame w EMMY IMG the marketing people that that that had them. And and I think they probably feel like Kyla was unprepared for that interview. But you know, people who were familiar with that whole process that he was prepared. It's a it's a big he said, she said, it would shock me that he would not be told going into this whole thing to have some sort of answer for the baseball question, especially at that stage when he he hadn't fully committed to football. Yeah. It's weird. And I've said this before when he came in to our studio there at the Super Bowl, the first thing he said to me is I hear your tough. Now. I'd already done an interview with him back in November. And I thought he was, you know, nice, you know, affable, you know, had some fun with it. But his dad being there. I think is cannot be overstated. I thought that he was always sort of looking making sure. Your new whereas dad was and you know, what do I say not say, then even that's why had to go to his dad because kinda what answering and I thought well, let me go to the the puppeteer here and say. You know, what about this? No comment. No comment. And then I knew that we were in trouble there, and I was trying to help him a little bit. I just you know, he he didn't want to be helped or couldn't be held at the time. That story is really complicated. And you know, he's a huge part of college life as you saw, you know, going back to their is you football days, but they run pretty parallel paths. You know, dad was drafted by the brewers actually went in and played minor league baseball for a time at in their rookie rookie league club. And Kentucky bailed on that kept the signing. Bonus money was sued by the brewers. They eventually dropped the suit. And then he goes to play football at Texas am, and he has this devastating ankle injury comes back from it is an all American conference player of the year, and then leaves after his junior season availability, which was pretty rare back then and then the NFL doesn't draft. And there's all this question about, you know, whether or not he could've come back because the program was under investigation and eventually the hammer would come down on the program for impermissible benefits, but his head coach says part of it was race. You know, being a black quarterback with all these question marks around him. Mm injury and character wise, and it all contributed to him being undrafted. So you take somebody who's been through all that. And then he has a son who says talented Keiler is. And and I think, you know, it's a complicated process. If you're going to bed a week's pay Cuyler Murray goes to whom. A week's pay. I've never been a week's pay. Okay. I think the love affair with. Cliff Kingsbury Israel. You know, I think the cliff has always seen Tyler is the perfect quarterback to run his system. And now that he has this opportunity with the number one pick and an NFL team of his own and to finally get this player that he recruited and turned him down. I I think that that's going to happen. Robert. Thank you. Great job with the profile. We appreciate your time. Thanks for having me. That's Robert Clem co writer for Sports Illustrated, the QB and sl dot com with Cuyler Murray. What does Cuyler Murray really want is the name of the column? Yes. Mclovin man that that interview is really impacted a lot. Did you know at the time? I. It's weird in the moment. Because I thought you know, what he's not. He's not looking good here. But I wonder if somebody's gonna look at that and go man, I do I want to I want him as the face franchise. So in the moment during the interview, I remember going and he's looking bad. And then I thought, you know, that's that's when I and we had a crowd there. And normally the guest will play to the crowd because they want to entertain he didn't want to entertain now he entertains when he plays football. But he didn't want to entertain every person who came through their shock came through. Drew Brees like they all played for the audience and he didn't play to the audience. And that's why I kept wondering. Okay. Do you realize where you are? And what you're doing? And how you're doing it. And I don't know if he understood the scope of it, and look, I don't know what happened behind the scenes, I hope he does. Well, I've said before I thought he could be the number one pick. And that was prob. You know, two months ago that I said that three months ago, and I hope he's successful in the NFL. But that was one of those moments where I was getting embarrassed, and he was getting embarrassed. And that's where you just have to cut your losses and say, hey, you know, we're done. Thank you. And you know, he even thought he was doing. Well, I think when he got to Gatorade. Like, I think he that's all he wanted to hear that. Hey, tell me what you're doing with Gatorade. Because I thought maybe I can get him to get the plug that's out of the way. And now we can do an interview because some athletes are so nervous that I'm not going to get to their plug. And then they'll they'll like kind of hijack the interview and go, hey, so tell me about you know, your seize your senior season. Well, you know, it's great. But I'm here to talk about gator it. No, no, no, no, no. That's not how we do it. We'll get your product plug your endorsement there, but you've got to answer these questions, and he he he didn't. Yeah. Pulling it is kind of funny because I don't think the interview was the worst thing in the world, and it may being blown up proportion, but rarely can you put your finger on something and say, there's awkwardness the awkwardness we'd that people have rumored about an any athlete a base in answering Pauley on what I'm saying. That's the different. Oh, yeah. What I'm saying? It's like a brutal awkward moment. Rarely do you have any tangible evidence of that? And you can just cue it up on YouTube. Anytime you want we rarely have that. If you critique critiquing when people critique Aaron Rodgers, or wherever may be they there's rarely a piece of video you could say there it is. That's what I'm talking about. I'm okay with awkward. I I am. But I'm not, okay. When their silence there when you're not answering a question in the fact that he froze up, and and I thought that's why tap the microphone like I was doing anything. I could adding levity even going to his dad almost as if to say our kiss the ring, can you? Now have your son answer question. It's the questions weren't that hard. Mclovin. It reminds me when you say this a little bit of Matt Harvey, obviously in Qualcomm dislike the police that you can see the awkwardness, and that's why it resonates so much and so long. Well, I thought Matt Harvey being in New York pitching for the Mets would understand how to pitch a product. And the fact that he said, well, I answer those questions about my shoulder the day before. No, no, no, no. And he says we'll answer those at the appropriate time. You're live. This is there is no more appropriate time than right now is the very reason that we've called for you that may this the line. We'll get to that at the appropriate time or another time Kelly thought gosh, you know, these guys just want to interview me to talk about Qualcomm nothing else. Like, you can't be that naive where you go. Yeah. We have all these interviews lined up. And at some point, don't you go, and they all wanna talk just about Qualcomm rave is a word for it. When even most accurate, I think eight years ago, and I still don't know exactly what Qualcomm as what they sell. I still have people who bring up Qualcomm to me just just on the road. They'll just say, you know, I'm here on honor walking when we did the meet and greet in Minneapolis. There were two people came up separately and said I just showed up on. I said well, thank you. I appreciate that. We're in New York just today. And then we're going to do to shows tomorrow that will be radio only as we get ready for the man cave with the TV cameras on Friday. So we'll be live on radio tomorrow and on Thursday, but Friday, we'll have the cameras ready. And then we welcome you into the new man cave. So putting the finishing touches on that. And you know, the danettes of uprooted their life here for the last ten days to be here, New York City. So we could do shows to get the man cave reading. So thank you for doing that. We'll take a break will close up shop last call for phone calls. We're back after this. Have you checked out the big podcast with shack here at podcast one? Yeah, we talked basketball. But we're a lot more than just sports Magoo's Febres lady shoes, a seven it's knew everything about me, everything sports. And the last thing she says, I love you podcast, and all, but I hate that John. 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I'm stopping at my new house, I taking my new car up to my old house. So you get the Mercedes. And then you're going to drive it home. Yeah. Yeah. Pick up the wife and kid couple of pups on. I gotta let my wife know we lost the house yesterday. Sorry. Yeah. That's all right bets. Bet you had a good run there. Yeah. But the stakes were high. I mean, we play for keeps on this program. You guys can like lease it from me or something if you want very nice of you stream live sports on our lives second leg of the Champions League quarter finals are coming up this week. I purposely put this off until the end of the show paulie last night says solid celebrity citing solid. And so I waited until the final fifteen minutes of the show to build up the potential for disappointment here. I think he succeeded. Okay. Okay. Solid celebrity sighting last night after we went to dinner go in the hotel get in the elevator guy goes in front of me. This look like you just came from the gym, very good shape had workout gear on and as we enter the elevator. I don't make any small talk. He looks is it rain outside and as it yet. It's sprinkle little bit. He was cold. I'm like a little bit. And I looked up and I recognize them pretty quickly. And then I referenced that we had a co worker of his on the show not too long. It was really good. How was he? And we joked back and forth for a few minutes. And he asked what show I told him? Oh, yeah. That's fun. He was you guys have a good time there and the door open, and I got out now this actor. Is on a very well known very popular very hot NBC show at the drama. This is us. Yes. Anybody know who's on? This is us on the EMMY for outstanding lead actor in a drama series. And I think you wanna Golden Globe as well. Sterling K Brown. Oh, that's big. Yeah. That's engine. He's been he's he's having a unbelievable run. Now. He initiated the conversation, by the way, he's in disturbingly good shape. It would really bother you. And he's very gracious and nice. And he said he goes. Oh, yeah. You guys have fun of why didn't you say? Would you like to join us on the program? It was I didn't have a lot of time because the door opened up in my stop I and I didn't feel like doing the elevator move because there was a solid conversation. But I figured I would let this gentleman had the rest of his name. Yes, we can still reach out to his handlers. People in and say that pull you ran into him in. We didn't it was a short visiting. We wanted to know invite him on the show. We didn't want to bother me at that moment to you know, start asking booking them on the show at that. I told them we'd had Justin Hartley on the show one of the. The co stars. And he had a good time here. And and he goes, yeah. That's my guy. And it was a nice conversation. Really nice guy. Yes, we love. He's also a Black Panther, which paulie would know if he'd in rejecting tire marvel universe. Yeah. But I I watched a little bit of Black Panther. But I I don't watch any of the marvel movies the scifi room. Yeah. Yeah. I I just don't do the scifi except for the one deadpool because it was hysterical. Yes. But I thought that he was mocking this superheroes. And I and I appreciated that I didn't like deadpool two. I still expect you fully to spoil the next vendors movie at the end of the month. I don't even know who's in the event, you don't know who Thanos is is is Chris Hemsworth in that Albert down junior on Scarlett Johansson. Oh, okay. Paul rudd. Yeah. Can go to listen Beykal. Douglas will probably be in it. Okay. Michelle Pfeiffer name a major actor there. I back. She's a buckle Douglas's wife in real life or in the movie. No, I don't know move you Catherine Zeta Jones is his yes eaten one sterling K Brown. All right. Was in a movie called the predator? Okay. Not the Todd Fritz story, by the way. Hey, guess what? His character name was seen O'Connor Saad Fritz traeger get. That that's the way accident. He was also he played Chris Darden in the people vs OJ Simpson that great really. He was fantastic. Yeah. We went into this restaurant last night. And it's one of those where you know. It's the right restaurant when you start to hear the music, and if you would have said, hey, pick out your own playlist here, we couldn't have done any better than what we did with that. And all of a sudden I start talking about the new Elton John movie that's coming out. And I said, you know, I wonder if if that it hurts that you had the clean movie that was so great all of a sudden Queen creek came on. And then then they played rush, Tom Sawyer. And then I said, all right. We're good had, you know, had some beers had some oysters. It was good night. Good food. Fritzy wasn't there? We had this idea. What if what if there's? What if there's a sensory app that could sense your musical tastes off your phone when you enter the restaurant, and they could change the music going on to be more pleasing to add to the experience because we were having a great time and how they get around to your playlist when they have everybody else in the restaurant. I don't know what it is there. How do I get my playlist ahead of somebody else's? I don't know the number of times you go to the restaurant. Oh, a loyalty program. Yes. Yes. We everybody wears headsets. No, no, no that we don't have to talk to jelly, just sit and smile. Yeah. And then our waiter looked like Patrick read the gopher. And then our bartender was in some TV shows. I believe he played a FBI agent and sopranos. That's why I recommend it because paulie goes ninety five percents. Sure that our bartender is an actor. So then I ask our waiter. I said CNN actor goes. Oh, yeah. And he's been in quite a few things there is name is Frank pando. And he's he was in a bunch of movies a Jake in Wisconsin Jake joins us now. Probably in attendance to Christian yelich is three run Homer night last night with the brewers. I Jake what up TV about. Yeah. Last night was pretty insane y'all Chad had had himself a night for sure to talk about that story with the puppy. It was a game earlier in the season the family was there the little girl had the sign so yell at you only hit one home run that game. And then he gave the puppy tour prior to wet thanks game. So maybe a little girl at something going. So I'm at the stadium right now. Making my sign saying yellow hit a home run today. My student loan. So. I would have asked for a pony not a puppy. But that's just me. Go big or go home. Yeah. Thank you. Jake. Good to talk to you Wesley in South Carolina. Hey, west what do you have? Was I was. I was calling guys I was actually in attendance during the collar Murray interview. And I remember looking at my brother afterwards, and like me, and that was really really awkward. I don't know if that's one of those guys that I want to be leading my squad. I feel like I'd want someone at least a little more vocal to be able to give me something. Yeah. My only concern. And thanks west was that he he froze up. That was the odd thing is I'm I'm looking at him going. I hope you know, what you're doing to yourself right now. And that the fact that you're on live radio and TV and I've heard people say boy, you know, it made for awkwardly great radio. And I said, well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Because I didn't and I felt bad for him. It just felt like there was so much pressure on him. Because at that moment is he going to go try play both. What's he gonna do? I just I kept. I kept coming away going. I don't think it's your fault. Like, I almost wanted to console him and say, look this wasn't your fault. It was some other people. Mclovin. 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EP. 421 - Power Project Stoicism

Mark Bell's Power Project

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EP. 421 - Power Project Stoicism

"Hey everybody. Welcome back to mark Bells Power Project PODCAST hosted by Mark Bell Co hosted by seeing himself. Andrew Zaragoza this episodes recorded on August twenty fourth and it is with just the power project crew in today's episode in preparation for Ryan Holiday which we have on the upcoming episode the actually episode following this one Ryan holiday of course, is an author and has. Written and done a bunch of stuff on stoicism. Awesome prep for that. We actually talked all about stoicism today a couple of STOIC quotes that we like a couple of things that we implement every single day and just overall the impact that stoicism has had on us and what it can have on you guys. So short and sweet today. So without further. Ado. Ladies. And Gentlemen please into this episode with Mark. Bell ENCIMA. Yang. Myself. Andrew Zaragoza talking all about stoicism right now as athletic like Lebron right or. Any of these other crazy dudes, but he just has such amazing fundamental since he's been playing pro for. So long right he's crushing everybody I'm happy that the that there's some sports going on now like I'm not I'm not too caught up in what it says on the court and what people are wearing and stuff. I just don't I, don't really care I'm just pump that there's some basketball on male I like watching sports. And then frustrated because the kings passed on Luca know yeah he's a be. That's okay. We got Marvin Bagley alway he's always hurt. Food the Kings have bad. Mojo, they really knew. You Pass on that he's going to be one of the greatest players of all time. He really will be hindsight's always twenty twenty Joe Klein over Karl Malone I mean the list goes on and on Bobby Hurley and number seven th pick. Lionel Simmons. Had opted with your heart. Yeah. These are all picks that I had high hopes for that ended up being. ANYWAYS, Bobby. 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And then and then one of the Jayson Williams I think he ended up dying unfortunately the I think he had a motorcycle accident something like that to right and look that one of I'm not sure. I don't really super confused on what happened all these something happened to him. I WanNa say like maybe he got in trouble with the law to I'm not one hundred percent sure. I'M GONNA pray for Tom After his podcast this imagine that there is too much motorcycles. Yes. True. Is a black and white mark. Bell. Or Black and white insieme. Saudi. Multi versus probably I mean the name Mark Bell. Black Mark I could I could Google search on facebook Too. Yeah There's a few female encinas. Is there a black mark bell and powerlifting though I guess I be question right now might be that'd be hard goods common. Yeah. Please right in right out mark. Appreciate it. There might be yeah like a couple but like if you google search them. 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I mean he's big and he knows everything about like fighting and war and I mean, he seems intimidate and he seems really freaking smart to yeah. He really is he rougerie's now week? No I know Rogin talks about how the? Broke somebody's neck. Rolling or something like that people were like, yeah the he. They're like don't just don't roll with him. He's like he's like he's like a solid to forty something again I'm sure he's Berry de seems like he's very nice I guess. Don't roll. Them. Literally. He can kill you in many different ways like he's adept with dazzling. That's not good. Now. Ron Panic and kill people in a bunch of different ways to, but he's just not as big and menacing. He's menacing in certain ways when you speak to him. He he's super cool. But you get this feeling like he's thinking things like, yeah of all the ways he can hurt me he's thinking he wanted to kill you. That was weird. When he's talking about flexibility. Blow your brains super. Flexible. Why don't we gotTA kill insieme for the demonstration I don't understand. That was pretty crazy. Do you remember when necessary do you remember when Phil Heath? Phil Yeah though he looked at me and he thought he was GonNa kill me that was really scary. What happened you were like taking video he was I. I won't take too much. We're just. Him and mark we're working out me and Chris were doing media. And then I think we're just talking about fans how like sometimes they dislike won't get it and he like he he's like sometimes after turn and look at them and you know his freaking bright green eyes he's like say listen and he puts his hand on and I'm like Oh shit he's really going into character. I. Shook up because here's this. Shit. Marcotte it right away to he starts laughing house like oh There's nothing I, can do. Yeah. His eyes get wide before person. So that like two feet from your face, like why me what did I do wasn't? Maybe. My flashes bothering him. Yeah. I've done that with some fighters before just to kind of like see like all Cisco like toe to toe like doing the pictures. nope. Yeah. It's a bad idea they stay right into your soul. Burn a hole in it and it's like, oh no. I shouldn't have done that. What am I doing? They're gonNA kill me. Kick me upside my head. Yeah. Thanks. Sick. They everybody for checking out the the livestream today Bono's is in the house. Yeah Godwin. Chat. Out To those people's. But what you guys have your minds today but we got Ryan holiday coming up. So and brought up that we should maybe talk a little bit about stoicism kind of. Elite into that. I think later this week actually the next day I think we have Lane Norton and And we got shoot missing missing his first name Feldman. Is I know the cholesterol guy name will pop up in my head at some point? but be a great podcast as well because we can talk a lot about damn Dave fell Venero we could talk a lot about You know how much influence it has if he don't overeat on impacting your health impacting your your lipids because Dave knows pretty much everything about. US everything about lipids I mean just about. So I think he'll give us some really good information. He's done all kinds of weird tests where he's like eating bread for five six days straight or eaten like not just bread, but he's eaten like a lot of bread. Like a few thousand calories worth of bread leading into a lipid profile and it just it can throw away off from what I remember I. Think his cholesterol goes way down. And So he just tries to show how how jacked up it can be. Your cholesterol can be really jacked up if you're fasted adverse if you're not fasted so he can give us all the details I know he's also eaten like. Four hundred grams of fat for five or six days. Straight kind of see what the impact was on his he's had he's had his own blood work done like I don't know two, hundred, three, hundred times. So, and then also he he he's not just doing that but he's a researcher and he has like a he and other colleagues or like research and some stuff. So I think it'd be really cool because I think it's just such a misunderstood category. And maybe we can find out what the hell means. That self experimentation. So it's really interesting like every individual has their own reactions to stuff like that like people respond very differently but it's still useful in and of itself had you know if he's done like big group research like what I know that? So I know like He'll be able to answer a lot of this when he's on the show. So I know that he encourages people to do stuff with him. And they do Whether or not it's like clinical and like really you know subject to a lot of criticism in terms of People being held accountable for the exact protocol of they're following and so forth I'm not sure but I know like going into like a A seminar symposium type thing these low carb events that he goes to he'll say like a doing this for the next twenty days like who's in who wants to join in and he'll just collect as much data as he can. Even, if it's like you know maybe it's not. maybe it's not the greatest way to collect some data, but he he does. So through some of that as well. So. Yeah I. Think it's I. Think it's GonNa be really interesting. We've got Lane Norton kind of on the other side of things where you know lane obviously is. Insanely. Intelligent knows ton about nutrition and his The Lane that he is enormously is usually in reference to caloric intake, and so it'd be cool to know you know if we. If we're not going over calories which I think it would be really hard if we try to do that with junk food but if we weren't going over our calories how much damage how how dangerous is it? Really you know? Is it really dangerous thing or is it really I? Don't even know if any if either one of these guys I actually would like bet my life on it that neither one of them have the actual answer because we just don't really we don't really know. but I would assume that it probably just not that it doesn't matter but it's probably There's probably so many factors involved in that that it'd be hard to really tell or safer. Sure. Any which way. But I think we'll learn a lot and then yeah, having Ryen holiday on I think is going to be great because we hear a lot of people talking about stoicism and philosophy in. How to approach and deal with things a little bit better. in this day and age, and I think I want to say that I, I would have to credit my buddy. Just because I'm impartial. But I'd half the credit tim ferriss whether they think pop the ball up in the air. That's where I heard it. Kinda Kinda I he now like a couple years back and then Ryan holiday, and there's been a bunch of other people to. The Ted talks, I mean Ted if you guys haven't listened to some Ted talks. I really suggest that you do. So I mean just you know honestly just look up just go onto youtube and type in stoicism. And washed the first two or three videos of pop-up it'll either be some sort of Ted talk or Ted Education type thing, and it's great videos gives great insight. Sometimes, they're only just a couple minutes sometimes, it's a speaker. Like Ryan holiday but. Yeah I'm excited to talk to Ryan holiday I think maybe one of the one, one of the fun things get into is what are some of the Maybe things that people are missing when a hear about stoicism because. Stoicism is to represent kind of an kind of more even mind. that you everything is open to how you interpret it how you how you take it in. So nothing is really necessarily good or bad. We can make sense of that and we can say, yes, there are is good and bad you know but. It's it's ultimately what you end up dealing with whatever this information is the IGA or whatever it is. That has happened to you. Because we know people that have been abused as children. and. We know that they have. ended up in drug and alcohol facilities we know that they've or maybe they repeated the same thing but we also know people that are. Movie Stars based off of that experience or they're just You know they live live a normal life. They're super happy. They're super content with everything that's going on in their life, and so it's all everything that happens to us. Whether is whether you've viewed as good or bad It's your own mindset that. MAKES IT SO No like when you mentioned temperatures name that's why I heard from to initially from one of his podcasts and then I started trying to dig in on it and I think you know when you mentioned having that even mind one thing that. When I initially started trying to learn about it. I got wrong about it initially was not just being kind of even Keel but almost I ended up going on the side of just not letting things affect me in a way. So I I ended up going towards the colder out bright and that's not necessarily how it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be that you're cold and indifferent your stone block and nothing ever gets you or whatever, but it's just. Allowing yourself to feel certain ways but not necessarily I. Guess Reacting and judging yourself for these feelings coming up more. So being aware like did something when someone says something did it How did it make you feel and what's your reaction? Could it be because it's your reaction to that that matters? Okay. You're. What your your significant other says something to you. You might feel a little bit angry about it might make you feel something initially. But how are you going to respond? Are you going to respond in a massively over the top emotional way? Are you going to let it sit and try to respond intelligently to the situation trying to see exactly what happened here and respond accordingly So I took I took that initially in the route of just not carry which you're not supposed to do. Yes. Can you don't WanNA stuff down emotion In a lot of studies that they've done over the years on emotions and the role of emotions I mean people still don't really know. There's so much stuff that we don't know about our own minds and stuff it's hard to figure it out but. seems like that without emotions, it'd be really hard to make decisions. and. So it's it's kind of an interesting thing because of decisions that we make are based on emotions, but emotions can be. they. Can. Be. I mean some people would go as far to say that all emotions are irrational but. I don't know if I'd go that far because I think that there can be some rationality to the emotion because it can be based off of previous information that you had. Like A computer you're kinda reading it and you're interpreting it and you're like, this is my best interest. So I'm going to decide to do this and then there's even some people that you know going beyond the scope of this podcast that will say you don't have free will control over any of it, which is another topic probably for another day with a much smarter guests than anybody that we have in the room. But Anyway, you know that's that is the role of emotions as they they without them you stuff them down too much Maybe you're missing out on life and maybe you're missing out on the part that makes us human because that's that is the part that we don't know. We don't know for sure about animals That's that's another topic for another day probably but it seems like like it it appears that humans have more. Choices than animals though, yeah and see my can real quick to pull the mic from a little bit closer to you because I moved everything around got. Yeah. But along the lines of what you're saying you know about like not necessarily caring less but as somebody who. I've been anxious before I have dealt with that, but have also been very pessimistic. So I would look at things sort of like all the Internet's probably GonNa go down today and the livestream streams can get cut blow like whatever it may be. Now it's like because of stoicism it's like, okay. The Internet's probably going to go down how can we fix that the conversation you know whatever might go this direction which I'm not very familiar in. So maybe I'll prepare for that so. It's sort of like I can't exactly put it into perfect words but kind of like expecting the unexpected but expecting the worst of all things so that we can deal with that and prep for that, and then when it doesn't go that bad, it's like Oh, shit that wasn't as tricky as I thought it was gonna be yeah or having no expectations. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Too I. think that's that's that's one big thing of that's really helped me out with that because. Especially, like from people right from people close to you. Sometimes when you hold somebody close to you in high regard, you may have very very high expectations that individual and then when they don't meet those expectations you become, it's somehow affects you become disappointed in how how can you do that? Why didn't you do that or how could you do this? Because you held all these expectations? Well, people are fallible will make mistakes you make mistakes and to have all these expectations which a lot of them will not be met. Like why put that y let that happen I think that's one big thing. I took wake us that there were people that I had very high expectation or. Expectations from they weren't met and it did affect me. But why just Kinda like go of that idea you know. It makes a big difference. There's people who utilize stoicism over the years to help with many atrocities that. We've faced throughout human history Nelson, Mandela one of them Viktor Frankl being other one Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for like twenty seven years or something like that. And I wish I could find like where I heard this. I don't even know true. But, they asked him about being completely isolated. They asked him like his thoughts on that. And There were like how did you feel being like in solitary confinement being completely being completely by yourself for so long and he said I was by myself. You know that's whether he whether he really believed that or not. That's a good fuck. You'd everybody you know what I mean like this not even not even acknowledging that he's going to even that he's GonNa even let that enter into his system and supposedly the room he was in he could put his arms out and touch the wall. So when he was in that fucking box for that long, it's pretty it's pretty crazy story and then victim breakthrough Frankel was in now see Germany and he was in concentration camp. And so I mean these people are in the worst scenarios ever and just try to think how can I think? Can I think about this a little bit better? Can I think about this a little bit differently and? I don't know if I would be able to but shit, they were they were they were able to they're able to find a a better route and I think on a much smaller scale. you had plans to do something outside for a particular day and it's now it's raining or here in. California. Everything's on fire and it's it's really smoky outside and. You don't want to be outside can't breathe and so. You can make a huge deal of that. The you know. You can say, fuck like can't believe you know why is this happening to me whatever Or you can just realize that being really mad about it being really. Just isn't going to change the news at all. Going to change the fact that it's raining outside. even if you were to spill your protein shake in the morning, which can be really frustrating you might. let out. A few cuss words or something but again, it doesn't help. It doesn't actually change anything. Maybe, somebody argue that pound their fists on a table or something for a quick second to let let something out. is is kind of human and natural and. Maybe. Maybe blocking that I don't know I don't know what the answer is that it may be blocking. That's not the best thing to do. but you know what? If what if instead of pounding your fists you hit somebody because you were angry or you threw something across the room now you're now it's now it's fairly obvious that. That's irrational or at least I would think that most people would agree that that starts to become irrational really quick. You know I wonder though with in situations like that feel like. exercise is great. I mean you know some people they use the gym to to let out that anger for me. It's like it's not letting anger, but it's letting out energy like I noticed that when I don't have the gym, I have all this excess energy and things can get to me a little bit easier right when I when I don't have just a way to exert myself so. I think that that is part of it. When you don't have a way to exert yourself, you don't do things in that way. I think you might end up being a little bit more wired up I would assume though you worked through some of that though through training like when you're younger, you may be trained with a little bit of. A little bit of a chip on your shoulder or did you maybe not even like necessarily? But were you like? I am going to like kind of stick it to myself today I am going to make today as I'm going to put myself in like a living hell in a sense to realize that it's exercise and that. We get to do it I understand that but. Just, kind of just bomb yourself. Yeah Yeah No. then. Now, I don't. I don't approach my exercise with a lot of like crazy motions or donatus lot. Yeah. You don't need it anymore and maybe back then maybe kind of get you started or go on you did yeah I that's. That's very, very true but like you know back to now your big though too. So it's all right. It's like you're not. You know maybe maybe you were like. Prove myself. I'm going to get big I'm GonNa get a strong I'm going to get jacked, and now you know most of us can agree that your big strong jacked. By the gals relating to your the pounding of the table type thing like you know the. The Gym Kinda does do that even if you're not expecting it to you know even if that's not your intention getting getting some exercise like all those intense walks and stuff you do that's gotTa do something for your just emotional level, right? Yeah helps I mean it's called. It's called working out. You're working shit out right I. Mean you're you're working it out I think I think it has improved on the way that we think about stuff and and maybe. Maybe, it just makes it a little more tired for other things. So I mean how many bodybuilders and powerlifters do we know that? You could tell him just about anything and they don't want to waste energy on anything else other than their exercise right I mean how about the bodybuilders have to park super close to the gym I mean Flex, wheeler talked about he talked about waiting for half an hour. for a for a spot right in front, of Gold's gym when he could have just easily parked across and across the street at Gold's gym is. It's only a couple hundred feet and like it's not it's not a couple of football fields lengths away that you'd have to park. And these guys they don't want to spend energy on anything and so they'd rather just. I. Mean I know a lot of people that live there. Really Chill I'm not saying that lifting makes everyone jokes I know a lot of maniacs to. it seems to work pretty well and a lot of times the bigger the person is and more accomplished. They are a lot of times the the calmer they are, but again, their career probably didn't really start there. It probably started with a little more intensity and a little bit of you know. A little bit of a chip on your shoulder when you're younger. You said that with a lot of people that fight to you know people that learn how to fight the tends to be the least confrontational individuals you know what I mean like you'll see that a lot from boxers, Jujitsu, guys, etc. They know what to do. You don't see them getting themselves thinking drives, people crazy George Saint Piero he says, he hates fighting. He's like he he's like I hate it. He's just like training for fun and then you know destroy anybody but he's like, I, hate the actual fight he's like I'm scared to fight using I don't WanNA fight terrified. Doesn't look like you're terrify looks like you're a savage. Truly understands first off the amount of harm he can do to another into, and then the amount of harmon end of another individual could do to him like when you understand like that, it's hard to WanNa do that like for example, if you were to get in a fight with somebody and you're on the street and you know, Jujitsu, you know the. The what can happen if you take somebody down their head hits the concrete by somebody that doesn't really fight doesn't understand that if they bash the hound, the concrete something bad could really happen and you're not gonNA like you're not GonNa get him in a hold and break their arm and then get up and break their other arm. No, I mean like. You might break arm because they might not stop doing whatever they were trying to do. So you might say, Hey, like you know I got to kind of go through with this but you're not gonNA. Yeah you need it's actually really interesting. You need like a willing participant that can be competitive with you otherwise he really and maybe that's part of what because he's is very talented, oh? Yeah. But I do remember was one of the brothers Jabs somebody to death and that was a hard fight to watch because remember that no, not literally death but but just jabbed them into the ground he jab jab somebody the whole fight and the guy's entire faces just. You know legendary and other legendary. You have guy he was just he just completely destroyed him like. Damn looks like he kinda likes bite me. I've heard him talk about stoves before too. Yeah. That's something a lot of fighters a lot of athletes a lot of. NFL Coaches I've heard have really tried to impart that to their athletes It really does it it it it makes a big difference especially like if you're an athlete. You tend to look at your progress emotional way for not progressing the way you want to you get angry messes with the way you approach things and if you just have like somewhat of a an indifference, he just do what you need to do daily and not let against the. Not Let. The outcomes affect you emotionally it can that can help with your progress drastically you know that's a big thing I mean even if we're gonNA, take that to the idea of trying to lose weight a lot of people get discouraged on their journey because things just aren't moving the way they expect them to or they want them to there may be. Progress that's actually being made, but it's not at the speed that they're looking for, and then it'll disheartened them they'll quit and then they'll come back later. But if you look at things through that lens of not having expectations, the doing the things needs to do day in and day out. No matter what ends up happening it helps everything run in a much smoother fashion. I think we have a tendency to. Use, the words should could and would. You know us we ought to do this I should do that. And then what happens when don't you know when you don't do that thing then you end up in a You end up in a predicament I, mean, just think about. Think about stuff that you think about things that you haven't liked in your life that you were forced to do. That never really turned out that never really ended up. Favorable for me school you know. So if I think a school. school is one thing that at least in this country you're. Completely forced to do most that most other things in this country you don't you're not forced to do much of anything. unless you're going after one thing then to have the opportunity to do that thing, then sometimes you need to do another like you're forced to like get insurance if you want to drive your car Those. Those sort of things but you have to you have to go to school. And when I think about the Forceful nature of that. And how it doesn't really work. The white worked for some people. but I don't think it works as well as wanting to do something maybe why college would be. Better for for a lot of people just because they get to kind of pick their courses, they get to pick a an agenda, they pick an interest or trade school. You get this. You know I'm GonNa go to a trade school to be an auto mechanic. Well, that sounds dope because I love cars you know or whatever. Whatever. The thing is that you're really attracted to but I think the sheds and woods and coulds that we might try to maybe be careful with saying to other people we set ourselves all the time, and then when you don't follow through on something, you feel like shit about it and what I always go back to. What I think is maybe more accurate is that it has to do with your interest level and it's Ok that if you're it's OK that you don't come flying out of the gate and get something right the first time. Anyway because. All knowledge always comes from error correction. and. Every time every time you solve a problem for yourself, you're not really solving a problem necessarily you're making your problems smaller, but I also believe that's where all forms of happiness come from they come from solving problems so. You have to maybe just understand like this whole thing's GonNa. Take Time you're trying to lose weight. Trying to be in better shape, you're trying to do a bodybuilding show. You're trying to do a power to meet. You have to understand that this stuff is going to take time and when you don't do it, it's just simply a lack of interest and it's going to take time for you to be more interested in it the more that you lean into it and the more that you better understand it the more you. Can make a decision on how much you actually like it or love it, and you could start to make a better decision better choice towards that. Maybe like you did with bodybuilding maybe like he did with powerlifting like he did with. Jujitsu as you do it, you know you're like, I'm to do this twice a week and do it twice week and you get twice week results and you're like twice a week results doesn't work. and then I don't know you do it for. Three Months Maybe the instructor tells you have a lot of promise and you're like. Look around the room and you're like that guy said he's a black belt said he's black belt like I did seven years eight years I think I. I think I have pretty good genetics. I'm young I'm hungry to do this. If I come five six days a week at six days a week I can do this and five six years in that kind of thing I. think that's The then like even even if you do mess up along the way. You don't get yourself. So bummed out about it now like Oh should we go to practice today even though my knee hurts like. You're like now is this process. I gave myself couple years and I was there already four times this week I don't need to freak out just need to get back in there as soon as the next opportunity comes my way. Yeah. I think that that's again what you just mentioned there. That's a that's a big tenant of the whole thing in terms of the things that you. Control quote unquote and one of the big things that you control is not just the react to things but the decisions in the choices you make about certain things. So of the first things that I think I grabbed from the whole idea from stoves and because when I when I learned about it a few years ago I, came from it from the viewpoint of I want to have more control over things. So it was more like I want to have controller things not the best way to come at it but that was my initial idea and that whole idea of you know you can't control the decisions the people make you can't control the things that people do. But you can't control yourself. You can control your decisions you can control your reactions and in and of that self that's a big power. If you can realize that and just understanding that I can control the choices decision I make towards the things I do was even though it's obvious like when you say that out loud anybody's like Duh, you would eat philosophy four but when you really think about it, it, it kind of helps clarify. Your Direction you know it helps clarify even the way you look at a when other people in your life helps clarify like the the effect that these people can have on you in terms of your direction no can really stop you. You know nothing. Anybody, says or anybody does to an extent can really stop. You just depends on the choices you make the decisions you make and how you go about doing that yourself. Because as it pertains to your relationship with other people I've heard so many people. Over, the years say I couldn't do that. My parents would kill me or and these are people that are like. You know they're adults the our they're getting close to an adult and here like. You know you'RE GONNA have to lose that at some point so you know. When To shake that is is ultimately up to you I mean third the. We. Don't really have to be forced to do. Shit, you don't WanNa do especially as you become older I think it just gets to be. Really interesting when you start to try to think about all the different things that happened in your day and how you you have agency over how you think about your thoughts kind of all the time. Now, there are mentioned this many times our thoughts pop in your head random. We don't have a lot of control over those. You might think seventy thousand thoughts in a given day and. You don't have control over all those things. A lot of thoughts that never even really come to the surface they never even really get get up there in terms of their priority. But when something does pop in your head as priority, you're allowed to think about that you're allowed to take your time with that. And That's what I would suggest. The most is who really just think about it like. Why when they said that that I get so anxious why when I thought about that thing that I just Like I felt paralyzed I thought about that public speaking event that I had and I started to. get nervous as if it's actually happening happening at that moment I started I, mean some people get really crippled by it. And so it's something to think about like what? Why do I feel that way and then also? What are some actions might be able take to not feel that way? You know I remember being fat Little Kid Getting Ready for for football and you know like. Running, and doing all this stuff that we did for a practice and just not being in very good shape and the next year that I went out for the team. Know all during the train all during the off season I was like I'm never gonNa feel that way again like I love football football's fun by didn't really. I. Was Kid I didn't know what it took. You know and so I was like well, I can do some of that run around and I can probably get more used to it because once the season started I was fine but in training camp and stuff like that it was it was tough. And so I was like I'm just never gonNA fill it wegener and every single year I tried to get in a little bit better shape. I was like you know I'd be like in the middle of the pack running with some of the other like linebackers linemen or whatever, and the next year I, was like I want to be like towards the front with the receivers and the running backs like I I know I can do that I just need to work harder and I was interested in that so I would work hard to try to. you know be more fit and being better shape so that so that it was easy that way I could have fun at practice rather practice being like Oh my God we got to do all this stuff and I got to go against this guy again and that kind of stuff and it brought down it crushed the anxiety because I like lifted I got strong and. It. Wasn't a it wasn't a thing. I was probably making other people anxious to go against me rather than vice versa. Mark you've been really good at this like even when we were talking about You know the virus like how you said that you've already come to like grass with idea of losing family members and stuff, and that goes back to like Memento Mori. Right like you're GonNa die everyone around who's going to die. How have you been able to get? So I don't WanNa say like extremely comfortable with it but the way said it it came off as like I already like I've dreamed that they're going to die and I've moved on very lived with that outcome I'm okay with it. So when you were talking about it, I was like Oh shit like dude I can't do that right now. How have you been able to build up like the the the capacity to do something like that. Well I experienced it. So hopefully, other people need to go through it to get there but. my dad my dad died basically I mean he he died a couple of times when he was in hospital in New York, city couple years ago and I you know. I wrote him letters you know I you know I said goodbye to him on the phone even I mean, we thought he was. We thought he was done. You know I told him. I was like dad you did everything I need. You know I know how to be a man because of you you can like if you need to go. Though for you know, don't be hanging on for me because I don't want you to be around and and be week and be in pain and so if you need to. If needed to go I'm good. You know and I I didn't even know he heard of that. But when he came awake and we we talked and stuff and he was just in tears and he's like, I always worried about you the most because you're the baby of the family and I was like Holy Shit. I was like, why are you worried about me? I'm good. I know what to do you know but You know I had unfortunately had kind of. Walked down that road before and having my brother die and stuff like that too and almost losing my brother. Chris. Life Life can be. Human beings are amazing because we can take a crazy amount of punishment anything take crazy crazy shit can happen to us but then we're also so fragile you know like your temperature, right? It's like ninety eight point six point seven. What does it whatever it is? And if that's off by two degrees, you're like, you're really fucking sick you're. Like. None of us would be in this room like if if I had one hundred or one hundred and one fever just to two or three ticks up. I'm calling you guys saying, Hey, man or a mom probably, not even going to call you I'm GonNa have my wife text you guys or something? No I'm going to be like I'm shop can't even get to the phone. So we're very like you know we're very fragile I. think maybe it's understanding that. We can all be in compromising positions at some point or another, and then maybe On, maybe even more of A. More general thing is like. You don't WanNa ever looked down at anybody due to their position. You know you see homeless people on the street and you like those people are those people are crazy those people. Date it's. It's easy to say that it's it's easier just to say that and to say, Oh, you know get a job. You know these bombs you know they they need to go. They need to go do something for themselves. Why? Why am I gonNA GIVE THEM MONEY? They're just going to go get drugs or they're gonNA go to to whatever with it you know I I may have even used to think that way to some degree because it's hard to understand when you see people living that way. But as I got older like I'm forty three years old so you just grow up at a certain point. And I understand that that could be me. That could be my children. You know that that could that could happen to anybody nobody wants mental health disease. You know nobody nobody wants to be addicted to drugs or alcohol and have it get clinched throat of their life every single day and Like they're they don't want people don't want to do fucking heroin and crack maybe at first they are interested in some way. Maybe they're like, Hey, man I need something to get through my day, right? Yeah but I don't think they WANNA be hooked on it and then I don't think they wanNA. Give birth to a trial that's hooked on and so forth and so. I've tried to just kind of in more general terms just. Just know like that. You aren't shit I ain't shit. I'm I'm nothing I'm on the same as everybody we're all we're all very we're all very level and some of these people that you might look down upon. that might be on the streets. Some of these fucking people are actually really happy. You know I pass by every day Davis I say I don't say what's up. He's like good morning how you doing today you know he's all fired up he's all excited. I don't know what he's got on, but he to be one of the happier people that I encounter on a daily basis. So. kind of walking through the steps of death, and then also just kind of recognizing that I. Guess You. If. I don't like if I don't amplify an overvalue what have going on then it allows me to. Part ways with easier. So what I have a bunch of stuff. You know what I mean. That's society determine that that's a level success. I didn't make that up. You know somebody else did. I. Just happen to have a bunch of it. Yeah I. Think that answers the next question I had for you but on the the most recent episode of Saturday school. The question that I had posed was like, okay. If if you're not being if you're not successful yet and you've been grinding nonstop and this is not happening you said like one just get better but also you have to believe in yourself and then just to Kinda, you know throw it out there and be devil's advocate. You just said right now like you have to realize that you ain't shit either. So it's almost like they're conflicting. So how the hell can somebody balance those two thought processes. I think we're all like you know walking contradicts contradictions you know. The way we feel in one moment is not the same as the next there's A. Old saying that I like the says. Shit now, I'm starting to forget it, but it basically says something the effect of no-man's steps in the same river twice basically meaning that because you will be a different person. The next time you step into the river and the water beneath, you will be different everything about it be different. At least that's my interpretation of it, and so I think you know we change a lot and so. If you ask me the same question tomorrow, I'll probably give I'd probably give you a different answer. It just kind of depends on your your mood and your mode and how you're interpreting everything but I would say that You know sometimes some of these questions to their hard to answer because I think people need to recognize that there. My answer you know in my answer might not have anything to do with they are answer. So, many listeners could be eighteen years old you know. By the way we have a lot of lady listeners 'cause I. Saw when I was in Utah. There was some chick listeners they're like, yeah. Listen to podcasts of like damn. Say We're blowing up. Wow. What was the question again the for? The the how you're contradicting yourself a little. Can't sound very extra, but it was between between what two things. But your success, right? Yeah you ain't shit but. Believe in yourself. Yeah. Yeah you have to be after I, mean you have to you have to believe in yourself and the only way that you're going to believe in yourself as do stuff. what that stuff actually is. That will increase over a long period of time. It'll take a long time for to for to grow and for you to get better at these things but. in order to. In order to like. Be. Somebody. In this world, you have to just simply believe that you are, but you can't fake later falsely believe that you are. Doesn't work that way. I can't look at myself in the mirror and tell myself I'm beautiful unless I actually really think it or allowed unless I think I have some beautiful attributes that the world could use the only way that I'm GonNa actually believe that is to actually do that stuff to actually provide for the world. To say, Hey, what you did the other day it was beautiful. That was great. You know that was cool. I, if I could if I can actually say the sentence and without stuttering and believing it fully that I'm GonNa feel fucking amazing about myself. I. Guess Maybe something people need to understand to. I could be buried right now and I'd be totally happy like I. Feel like I. Feel like I've already lived a great life. I feel like there's still so much more life to live. There's still so much more for me to teach. My children are still so much more for me to. Pass on but if If got shot leaving this building because the east coast west coast. Rap Battle goes off again. If that happens again, I, I get I get I get mobbed down like that mowed down like that. Then you know that's just that's just the way it is but like I have a bunch of stuff. That will live on forever or live on until until is not there any longer and then if you're not putting in a putting a lot of way on material things or like the bank account stuff like as if that all goes away he said you'd still be happy. But how can someone find happiness then if that doesn't matter then what is it that they're striving for like how? What's that thing at the end of the road that they're working their ass off for because they think that it's GonNa make them. Happy. my belief in is that it's It's annoying to hear it, but it's it's always in the process. It's always in the journey is not in the actual attainment of stuff. When ENCIMA GETS HIS BLACK BELT? He's not even going to like we'll see on Instagram, but it's not even going to say anything. He's not gonNA come in and be like Yo. You guys remember like I've been talking about this ship for he's GonNa come in wearing his black belt. Like how like that would be so gross right? He comes in you. No Right. There'd be a little bit less girl. Cringe you mean like yeah. That'd be so girls I met like you're just going to be just wearing that that'd be fine I'd show that party. Yeah. It just reminded me I used to, I, used to work with the guy he did like a half marathon came to work wearing like the metal that everyone gets no man though so bad. Did He have a desk next to that? Bitch. Sue. This was an office prior to. Yeah. Just reminded me of that anyway. Yeah. I think a lot of fulfillment will come from the journey and it's my belief that happiness just come from continuing to solve problems and the only way you can solve problem the only way you can create knowledge to be able to solve a problem in the first place as the mets up. This understand that messing up as part of the process back to dieting you know is used dieting as thing people like how do I get back on track? Well. You should not have a track that you're ever off. You know like there's no, there's no off like, yes, we call it cheating and yes, we make jokes about it and we have fun about it. But I'm sorry peanut butter cups are part of the equation. Ice Cream Ben and Jerry's stuff we talk about pizzas cereal. All this stuff is it's part of the equation. It's part of it's part of the journey. It's it's. Maybe. It's a detour you know but you're not really getting off you look at it as as if you like fallen off the wagon. Well. That sounds terrible like, yeah. How are you going to get back on how you going to get? High. Are you gonNA figure it out to pick yourself up and and get yourself. But you didn't really that bad. You just ate a bad meal or two or maybe even three or maybe a bad weekend or whatever. But. That's all part of it. You know why went from three thirty down to I'm about to thirty right now it took me that was twelve years ago that I weighed three thirty. So it, it didn't take me necessarily twelve years to do it but. It's been a long process and I still go on and off you know it. You know if you WANNA Kinda. Say it that way but I don't I don't view it that way I view it as if I'm just. Kind of on this longer journeys I think I'll just try to always get in better shape until I can't anymore. I mean look at Marxist and he's like sixty two or some thunder sixty one looks amazing crazy or look at Every time Stan efforting comes around he's in better and better shape like he's a leanest I've ever really seen I mean. Obviously like he He got a pro card you know in my time of knowing him in bodybuilding so. He most likely will not ever be that big in lean ever again, but he's pretty much as lean. As I've ever seen him the last time I saw many looks he looks healthy. Looks Great. Sorry to will come back. What's the paper Towel Guy? Come. One hearing, he has one airing mister clean. Whatever yeah? About. Mister. Clean, immediately, think of Mr Clinton. He he might have to start to clean the place when he comes here next time. Yeah. She just next time he comes you just wear very like very tight white t shirt maybe a fake earring if he doesn't brings already. But also the person that I know. The beyond smokey. That's a skill. That's what I said. But okay. Now, coming back to what we were talking about Your like that. But that all again leads back to like interpretation like when Andrew asked the question what How do you get to happiness? It's your interpretation of the situation that you're actually in. You know you could look at all of the bad things that are currently happening to you. And I know some situations are much much much worse than others but then there's also a lot of underlying good. A lot of things that are there that are very positive for you even like when when you're looking at. Goals you want to achieve or something that you haven't done just yet the whole thing of like you ain't shit. That could be seen as like a good thing because a lot of people When they're trying to go toward something, they give it all of this power and like they make it bigger than it actually is. But if you realize that you know first off, people have done it before that's one thing but number two it. What you're doing isn't necessarily the biggest deal I could. No, one's going to be greatly hurt greatly I. It's not GonNa do anything crazy right if you if you don't get it or if you achieve it, it's not going. Nothing crazy is going to happen if you break announced the most simple aspects of it. So then just Go towards it. Mo. We used to think that Earth was the only thing that was here. You know we used to think that our civilizations the only thing the here, and now it just seems completely. Ludicrous to think that even though we don't have as much proof. as maybe we would like we. We learned planets and they're like, oh, there's like seven or eight planets right? And then we learn okay well at least the earth is in like the center of the universe. And turns out. That's not true either and it turns out that and I'm like, okay well. We're the only. We're the only planet that has a son. Turns out that Sinead true either turns out there something called the Milky Way and it turns out that there's billions. Billions of sons. There's billions of planets. Solar systems may go on like in like we don't even we don't have any way of knowing. You know so I think when you start to, there's actually Think it's called like humility is on Youtube. I'll give you the link. IS A. Thing, but it kind of describes all that describes. You know how we're just this Pale blue dot you know in in the grand scheme of things when you if you've us from. Zoom, out on stuff and you were to think. If. You were to see like a short video of the last couple of weeks or months that you had. and. Let's say the last couple of weeks or months you had are just horrific but say that they're really really bad. He got divorced you lost your job like you can't even you can't even like. Write a script to make it any worse, right. Now imagine if you saw. If zoomed out and you know you're watching your TV but you trade places with somebody else's to watch their video. And you see that they lost a child. You see that they their dad guy hit by a car. Then you just see like all this just crazy shit that happened maybe they grew up in a different country maybe didn't have access to books or maybe the access the school and you just start you start to watch all this shit and then you move on to the next person and that one's worse you move on the next person that one's worse. And now you're like Oh shit. You know it's not just me that has suffering. Most of the most of what happens in humanity is. Is there's a lot of suffering with some happiness sprinkled in. Periodically most most of the world most of the universe is just space. There's like nothing there it's nothingness. Most of America as populated as America is most America's nothing, there's not there's nothing there's just like Buchan fields. You know across America and you'll see there's like Like wow this is really fucking huge but compared to what compared to the whole entire landscape. It's nothing you know it's all. So I just I. Guess. My point is just perspective. You know you start to have per se applicant thing started time perspective on all this stuff that we're just like this little. Little Blip I I love campaigns campaign says you know no one cares keep hammering No one cares keep. Hamra like just shut the fuck up and just keep going because no one gives a shit anyway but it's important for you to do it because you know that it's GonNa. Make you feel good. That's all you're trying to do. Is Try and make yourself feel good. So, does that answer this question? It's from Matthew Balcony. He's how do you come to terms with trying and failing? How do you make yourself focus on growing instead of failure itself Ninety professor. Part of. That's part of the problem like like you said, you know that track it's part of the track so. You don't even necessarily need to look at as a failure as fair like if you're being realistic. Okay, you didn't. which wants to achieve but you learned from that. which will help you continue moving towards whatever it is you're trying to do you know you haven't stopped you don't have to stop. It's your choice it's within your power to continue to try to move forward so. I don't see that as. I don't see that as a problem. I don't even know like. The failure I think is like. You know you can view it as a loss but it. Rather than like the l word for a loss, I would turn into like learn like you just learn from it. You just I just I just learned something new. You Maybe maybe you went in jamming, you try to dead lift three plates. Just learn that you're not quite ready for it because your hip shot up a little bit earlier in your background did over we'll now like. Can you live three plates? While you didn't right but can I do you possess the ability to lift those three plates? Yeah of course you do It a could have been just a rough day maybe enough sleep there could be a bunch of things like that but you could also just analyze and you can reframe you know maybe. Maybe, you go back and you paint a different picture of what your training's going to look like so that you can So. You can figure out what was the kind of weak link in the whole thing what what am I missing? You know? How do I make this? How do I make these problems that I have with lifting three hundred and fifteen pounds? How do I make them smaller? and. So you go to lift three, fifteen, three, four weeks later after you did forty five degree back raises holding some way and after you did some maybe ABC training and after you just home in your form and technique a little bit better maybe had maybe had someone else give you some criticism because criticism is going to criticism and conjecture is going to help really help you to gain more knowledge in the more questions that you ask in the more. Off The beaten path that you go with those questions, the quicker you're you're GonNa get to your solutions. So you get to your solution as quickly as you can through a lot of trial and error the error. Is Not really a failure it's life I think is is just about Eric Correction I think that's really all that were. You know the meaning of life gets to be really complicated but I think that I think. Maybe. The meaning of life is just simply the journey of life to continue to solve problems for yourself and to Pasa- information on other people so that we can just be happy so we can just get through this life. Because if you sit around and think about it a lot, you could end up. Being saddened depressed anxious, and those kinds of things know what man does it seem to Doesn't seem to others I should use a more pg word for this I'm sugar coating things too much thinking that we shouldn't even really use that word because we can. We can reframe the idea of failure but when you think about failure, right, it's so just like negative zad like it it's it's just it just really sucks because when you really think about. Failure or the idea of failure You know they're they're. Usually. If you just continue trying to move in the same direction that you've been, it doesn't lead to anything negative usually leads to a positive. Right. Because like like, for example. Had the goal of doing certain things as far. Strength is concerned but then I started doing Jitsu and love that and now I'm just I'm so much in a much better place focusing on that. Did I fail at that that thing in terms of powerlifting like you know when you decided to leave your job and do stuff here did you from the Elektra last job or? What Right, like I mean. It's like whenever we whenever people usually talk about failure. It's always like Oh. This is the end it's drab it's Glenn and it just it feels like we shouldn't even be looking at failure in that way it's not necessarily a bad thing. Yeah I guess perception like you know you talk about how people? Like in your family like like you're supposed to be a doctor all he he failed at being a doctor he just talks to into a microphone like. Maybe some might see that as a failure but yeah, no, some some people do see that as those scared automobile group we'll see that as a failure yeah, I know mark has said like turn your L.'s into. Lessons or something like that in the past and it's it's totally true. That's how I've been feeling for a really long time now. Yeah. Like there's like no such thing as a bad experience because you're gonNa take something from it. No matter what you exactly. Yeah. So yeah, I think perception Realizing what you can learn and Keep pushing forward. So I got a chance to talk this weekend and at this BITCON thing that was run by Robin Dalen Bailey, and the muscle, and it was it was a lot of fun I was on stage with the Muscle Mike Rasheed, Rob Bailey, and Matt Vincent, and we were talking about like building business, and this kind of thing and I mentioned in in my. Portion of it that I was in I was in I was an inventor. And I mentioned how I struggled in school and kind of told my story and so on. Afterwards this little kid came up to me and he said I'm an adventure to. And I was like that's awesome and his dad was explaining to me like a you know he he really struggles with school. You know he's got attention deficit disorder and. you know these kinds of things and So I got talking to this little kid and it was really funny because he was like What did it? He's like, what did it take to? Get your first invention going and is kind of funny because I mean he must have been like eight or something you know. Wow and I was like well, I was like it really just took. Just like just making it happen. Just like just. kind of taking that first step and actually doing it, and then he's like. He goes well, what lessons did you learn along the way you know he he's like a little kid. So I'm like completely blown away and so I explained to the kid you know like all you know I I had to fail a little bit. I had messed up a couple times but the first creation of it because it didn't come out right and And then I landed on something that worked and that provided for people and then people were excited and then the kid kind of like he kind of got behind his dad he was kind of messed around doing some other stuff and I told Dad I was like you ain't got nothing to worry about this kid I'm like he's clearly like really like intelligent in. The fact that he has the ability to communicate with people and the fact that he has kind of like an emotional intelligence about him that might be far superior than a lot of the stuff that he may. Not Pick up in school and things of that nature but. I like seem as point right there I. Think. Failure is a human word you know A A computer. Error Error Right can't compute. but like you know your your computer when you go, if you go to search for something in it, like doesn't find it or something you computer doesn't like put Oh fuck on the screen or or leave me alone like that's annoying or he doesn't get frustrated at you if you had a computer that was I don't know if you had a robot that was like, I dunno squeezing you orange juice or something if it like man stop, it wouldn't have a feeling one way or the other like let's say it was learning how to make orange juice for you wouldn't have a feeling one way or the other it'd be like, okay. Error like I I I S- mashed the. the orange and I squeezed it. But then a bunch of Orange Peel landed in the cup and computed that was wrong and it would like keep trying trying trying until until it started to get it right but it wouldn't feel one way or the other about it wouldn't be like Oh that was a failure it would be like well, that's just not the correct way. You think about, why is it so difficult to teach your son, how to throw a football or to teach your daughter, how to catch a football or throw a baseball or Whatever it is, and it's because. When you point out an error to them? They think that they're doing something wrong they think it's a failure. and. Then they get sad and they wander into the house and you're like. Like fuck man is just trying to. Like then you like was I too aggressive. I mean I'm really just trying to teach them throw the damn ball. Then you don't know what you did, but that's human right that's very and plus they're five years old. So they're they're really really delicate who the hell knows what they're thinking Normally. Normally, kid will like you know they'll. They'll play with stuff and they WANNA play with it their way, and we've talked about this before they kind of like start to make their own rules especially once they lose some in something, they start kind of make their own rules but I think a great way to just look at stuff in general. Is this really look like? I got a lot of errors to correct, and if I can correct these errors affecting correct these maybe they maybe they've turned into kind of long-term flaws and long-term habits that you have but everyone's got him. Everybody has everyone has. Just, look around, you will not find what you'll never find one person you never find one human being that is as perfect everyone has advice. Go, go out to eat some time. You know whenever that is the thing again. Go out to eat some time and and look at how many people have fried food on their table. Look at how many people are eating a bunch of bread and butter. Look how many people are having drinks you know maybe that's just a one offer them maybe catching them on a weird day like they might be catching you on a weird day having a drink or eating whatever but. Even just with our food I mean that's just one tiny category of everything that we do. It's just the were have errors all over the place and then you just try to. Think about those errors and you mature and you turn into somebody who's like you know what? I can't believe I. Wow, I'm actually really ashamed that I used that these. I can't believe I used to do that Damn I wish I wish I didn't have that against me, but it happened and they but you corrected it you may switch gears you moved over doing something slightly different. Yeah. As an adult, you have a tough job is many of us were raised by individuals who are also raised by individuals who when you see failure or when you when when that happens, it's you got very negative reaction like as a kid like when I would throw away my Kumaon packets which a learning center or whatever I would do bad on something right? My mother always wanted me to do better. So whenever like I would? Fail at something like you. Do you do you want to end up like this? All? Right so you become scared of that. But the thing is like if if a child learns when they're failing as a kid that. Happens you can just learn about this and you'll be like if that continues to be drilled into them, like that won't be an effect as an adult like that. That's just part of the whole process but myself and millions of other people right. As adults Y- you have to kind of rewire yourself not to look at failure in that way I'm still going through that whole process because it's still stings a little bit when or there's still this this a little bit of fear to do certain things. Because of that failure but you gotta continue to understand that that is just a part of the process and I need to make sure that when I do have children I need to teach them that failure is not necessarily failure as we see it. I, think that's the biggest thing because you mentioned like you're talking about kids and whatever, and I just think that's such a big deal to just have help kids have that mindset of growth and failing through everything and that's okay. That's just part of an all. I it does it. It's really good for kids because like I've been this sounds messed up but I've been trying to figure out how to. Find ways for my daughter to lose because when she does lose at like even just like whatever we're doing playing like wiffle ball or something, she gets really frustrated on my wool like we're supposed to be having fun. So little things like that but we're we're co-parenting. So sometimes, it's really difficult when I'm like, Hey, like if you get a D. minus or an F. I. Legit don't care. Whereas the other house is like, no, you're you need to get straight as and you're going to college. whole `nother situation. But yeah, I think it's yeah. It's ingrained in US right like or maybe it's part of like are being humans like Oh, we can't. We can't not go get the freaking Gazelle because we feed our family or whatever it is what people eat back in the day but yeah. Yeah, my my. Nephews and Yeah I was talking about Monday about like school and stuff like that and. He was my nephew ham bone he was like Hamish. Said A. I'm going to I'm going to go to college. I'm going to do this I'm going to do that and And then he said something about how he had like I don't I mentioned something else to him and he then he said he had to go to college i. And I was like Oh okay I was like You don't really you don't actually have to go to college for what you're talking about. he's like, no, no, no. A half to go to college because Dad. My Dad said I have go to college I said Oh that's different. You know that you don't you don't actually have to go to college. But. You know in your case, you're saying that your dad, you know saying that you need to go or whatever. He's like. He's like I have to go to college like what do you want me to be a loser? Jeeze. I told him I was like well, I said I said, who's GonNa to at Your Dad's gone to college right in and he's like, yeah and I was like and he said he's like my mom went to college and Andy went to college and. He's like it goes to college noten. He's he's is kind of lit up news like, oh. I. Don't I don't feel like a loser. I was like, but maybe you're right. He started laughing meanwhile your brother-in-law's like, what are you doing? Exactly what else speaking about like what the Hell is? Dad Thinking right now it's so funny here we're. We're around each other a lot and with With My niece it's kind of the same way too because she loves to like bake and stuff, and they're like, Hey, you need to go to be. And I. Actually think that's a great idea because a lot of times people are passionate about cooking food and they make great food but you ever go to a restaurant where you're like there's something off about this place. This place as having hasn't figured it out. They don't have good service or some as like you're like, I kind of enjoy displace food's pretty good. But something's weird about those are people that are probably foodies that never learned the business side of it. So I think sometimes, it can be really beneficial to like You know as we as we saw in that bill and Ted Clip. Know that you don't know anything. We're know that you don't know enough and try to figure out what you can learn. No. Before the podcast started I showed Encima bill and Ted's excellent adventure we're talking about. So crates. Socrates and that's kind of where a lot of this stuff stemmed from I. Don't know how much further back it goes but. Socrates. I. Believe was from Ancient Greece and then I think we'll actually actually stoicism was made famous by Zeno And I think he was he was from Greece's well but I I'm losing track of WH-. What who did what but Anyway. I think that Zeno was the one who popularized he made it. He made it famous. He's the one who kind of read different books on it, and then he started to teach it outwardly and it kind of grew from there and know what was called before that but I should probably look that up and we'll figure it out theodore MINET before. Yeah. Let's see. I I'm going to try to pronounce this Agua. Oh Man H. L. A. N. Z. E. L. A. from south. Africa. Brings up my favorite STOIC but mark you had you had mentioned stuff about like Oh go when you go out to dinner whenever that happens again Whether or not restaurants opened up is out of our control. What good does it do to be so frustrated about that I'm not really frustrated about I I actually have been able to still eating because you can still eat but still eat at restaurants because you can eat out you can also order out and now I don't. I, don't if I sounded frustration I. No, no, No. I was just trying to bring a general thing that somebody might be. I can't travel to Europe right now like getting all upset I just think. Yeah I just think. That, we are just giant babies. You know we have like. There's so many like. Is Is. As annoying as it is to see that there's like such different views on this pandemic in that, we can't come to a more clear resolution. There's information on one side and then there's information that's completely opposite and so from the very beginning I've been like all right just kind of. Confused on what on why that is and then in having some people on the podcast explain some of it a little bit further you know it it. It started to make a little bit more sense, but in general Our lives are our lights are still really good. Lot of people have their jobs and. they're frustrated but again, I think there's still a lot of people being protected from you know collecting unemployment and from stimulus packages and. Like the United States still rocks you know like still like the I from from my vantage point, you know maybe other have different vantage point they don't feel the same win. That's. That's totally fine. You're entitled to Your Own Opinion, but I think in general I think things are still really good. I think things are still like I still feel good about everything and even if things were worse. I would. Still. Do my best to try to choose feel good about the situation that I would do. What I fell is in my control exercise, take care of my brain, take care of my family and still trying to figure out a way to feel good every day. Yeah. So this all started from the question. Well, the quote you know from the last of the five good emperors except what you can control let go where you cannot control Marcus Aurelius Nat for me especially recently with like you know the buying and selling a house. That's been huge in the probably the best thing about learning this was helping my sister go through the same situation she was super stressed out. You know like, Oh, I don't know when we're GONNA sign I don't know when people are going to move in when we're GONNA be homeless and edited until we get the new spot and just kept telling her kind of the same thing over and over like, okay. What can you control like? Okay can do X. Y. and Z. do that. What can't you? Okay don't worry about it. Then I know it's impossible because you're stressed out but for somebody again like I said earlier like, I, I have dealt with me like some sanctions about certain things. Understanding this concept has helped me. Man More than any kind of antidepressant, anti anxiety medicine whether being natural or not like this right here like that's been super beneficial for me. You know our our boy that we have coming on the PODCAST MR I in holiday It's in his book the obstacles in the way there's this chapter on questioning yourself. I haven't read individuals by the way obstacles the way egos, the enemy and Johnson the great books and then there's the daily stock I. Think you also have that one row really dope read it to my son everyday it's like a Bible. Everyday but anyway, but I was going to say was there's this chapter on questioning yourself and it's like a really good thing to like attacked right If something does happen and you feel angry, you can I say okay. What I feel angry because it happened. That helping me right now no what can help me right now doing this as this happens to other people before. Yes. Are they alive? Yes. Are they doing okay. Yeah. Like you can legit just question the whole thing down to it really doesn't matter like the it's things are fine. You don't have to be you know. Or Angrier whatever about this, you can literally question the whole thing and you'll be okay and it's it's I know it sounds like super I. Guess Simplistic because like Oh you're gonNA question yourself every time you get mad about something or sad about something but really that can solve a lot of if you just questioned down, it's absolute simplest form. In the start it's it might be like this is going to be weird like tracking your macro like I'm not GonNa do that every time, but eventually you get really good at it to where you don't have to. Yeah. So you you speed through. So when you question literally everything, it's like royalty. At first but then. Starts to make sense and you start to Kinda just kind of handle yourself that way a little bit better. Yeah. I mean, what if you're someone who's just explain to you? You could just. Go through the rest of your life being undisturbed by pretty much anything. Anyone ever says. you can go the rest of your life without really bothering to argue with people because doesn't really ever I mean you do need to sometimes speak your mind and you speak up for yourself either like sometimes defense sometimes needed defend yourself. but you need is just understand like I dunno or or about how valuable is that? When it comes to like on, you know being doing something online you know doing something on the Internet like is there Arguing. It somebody on the Internet that's fourteen. You know. Get listen yeah like. Does yeah. and Y Y. You know what's the arguing four? Are you trying to create your own like Echo Chamber he wanna make sure that you comment back on everything that someone says about your diet or about your clothes or whatever it is that you can make sure that they understand that they're wrong and that you're right I mean the anxiety, the emotion that's created by just that. One thing I believe can be eliminated almost completely from a lot of people if you work on it. There's a word that I really liked that I haven't heard many people say before but it's a word as called equanimity and I talked about it on my own YouTube channel before but I have the definition right here and it's having. Says having an even mind is a state of. Psychological state of psychological stability and composure, which is undisturbed by experience of or exposure of emotions. Pain or other phenomena that may cause others to lose the balance of their mind. Now, you're not going to be able to do that all the time. You're not going to be able to be undisturbed from every single thing. That you hear you're not going to be able to. The you know it'd be. Read nearly impossible to have that much composure to where. You know you. You just don't. You don't care you know That's what separates us out from other animals I. I I. So I think. If you're thinking about. A SLAUGHTERHOUSE THAT HAS CATTLE If we are being slaughtered in a similar way and insieme was in front of me. I'd be crying, it'd be screaming I'd be like it. You know I I try to run away. I tried to get him with me and we try to escape right the animals they don't even if they were to see the other one you know they don't they just don't think that way. They don't they don't maybe they don't have the ability to. You know but we but we do and we have the ability to think about. Every single thing that happens to you everything. Every single thing that has ever been the said about you. Everything. Has Been said about you. If it's It doesn't necessarily have to be a truth through that's up to you to on whether you want to wear that and carry that around with you. but a really weird interesting thing is the you that you think you are isn't even real isn't even it's barely real. It's only real in your own exists in your own mind because encinas view of me is different than my own perspective of me. And I'm in the same room with you guys all the time. But Andrews view of means different. My view of you is different than your girlfriend's view of you your mom's view of you like it's just and so I think you know when you try to start to. He starts to think about all this kind of weird. Weird stuff that being human being can really be they just try to figure out how do I just I just live the best life I can live. How do I occupy my time? OCCUPY MY MIND WITH With Feeling feeling good about myself because if I can feel good about myself, hopefully I can make others feel good about being in my presence and being around me and hopefully, I kinda bring those people up because if I can bring you up and I can bring you up. And I'm I'm already up. I'm already excited than the whole room is lifted, and if you're thinking similar thoughts and if you're thinking similar thoughts then right now are now our audience is listening to our conversation. Now they're brought up and that's Kinda of gets passed around I mean it doesn't always have to be about. positively and that kind of stuff but. Why not choose that? It's feels better. Heels much better. Yeah. Then, my the other. Like super just. Probably the second biggest like impact that stoicism has had on me is marcus released talking about waking up early. Oh. That's huge because I'm I'm just like a lot of a lot of people like ice to hate waking up early it started with mark getting my ass up early to come train and then I started realizing do there something different about being up at four like it's? There's some special. What did he say about we? Mark or? A. Hey. There you go. I can find the exact quote but. Basically. He's just like like why would you stay in bed like where you meant to sleep under the covers all day long you meant to go out and do what you're supposed to what you were put on this planet for that. Short. I'll get the exact quotes because I just butchered it but it makes so much sense 'cause like. Am I put on this planet to hit the snooze button and to stay in my saying my bed and do nothing or am I put on this planet to get out this conversation to as many people as possible. Secure, that's why I've got up really early train and then get here on time to make sure that. Everything runs smooth possible. I'm not meant to just not do anything today and so because of that like, yeah, waking up early, it's just something new every day now weekends doesn't matter although this Saturday was a little bit tongue because I I didn't get home 'til midnight how it comes out hails so that like that day we found out in on vitamin C in. Eighteen. Love. I, inject it. That way. Creating injected, you're not supposed to. Claim, natty just why even bother. In, meet. That Mexican meet something weird. Going on. Yeah that's anyways. That's cleanse. What's Use all the Mexican fighters, boxers and stuff they'll get it Clinton. No. You don't understand in Mexico. It's in the beef like that's just the way it is. In no wait what. How did that get? To follow up while you're saying about waking up early I, think it's just about you know being respon- responsible. And, and maybe not necessarily waking up. Early for each person, I just want to specify can be a little different for you. Don't necessarily have to wake up early to be really successful. my father in law was a good example that he wouldn't get to work until like eleven. He'd wake up like nine thirty. He just didn't. He didn't like going to bed early. So stay up a little bit later. It's important that you make sure that you get. You know proper amount of sleep but what I would suggest for people is to work on earlier. So just like you know if you're used to waking up at like nine. And Your Day is kind of you know by eleven o'clock you just haven't got an a lot of stuff done. I would suggest if you have the capability to go to bed a little bit. Get. Your Butt in bed a little bit earlier because I've talked about this before on this podcast but. Normally, it's the cascade disciplines that ends up being the most important thing because there's a bunch of other things that surround that. So when you go when you have to wake up. or maybe half twos not the great word for it but like when you feel the need to wake up early. You will start to feel the need to get to bed earlier because we know we talk about health nutrition and sleep on this podcast all the time that we need a certain amount of hours sleep. So don't. Don't feel like you need to really sacrifice your sleep. they need only sleep five hours every night you know just to try to get ahead. That's going to be tough and that's going to be putting yourself in that category of the woods and should and could send your policing yourself too strongly to too hard Your success isn't going to happen from one particular day anyway and so you know get your rest, get your sleep in, but maybe you can start to. Hear Andrew Said and say Interest talking about four am that's a little crazy. First of all, I would suggest trying that at some point just as just as see how you feel with it you might feel like total crap, but try try it a couple times but I'd also just mainly recommend just trial earlier. That's what that's what's worked really well for me over the years it just Kinda got earlier and earlier and earlier the point where it got ridiculous when training with o'hearn I was up at like three forty five every morning and I was eating breakfast and it was. Like I just had a time perfectly because when you train with him if you don't have food in your stomach, you're gonNA feel like you're GonNa die if you have too much food in your stomach puke everywhere. So It was a tough thing to to figure out but find your sweet spot is all. I'm really saying you know wake up might be a good idea to wake up a little earlier than what you're used to. If you kind of feel like your little sluggish in the morning So the quote is at dawn when you have when you when you have trouble getting out of bed, tell yourself I have to go to work as a human being what do I have to complain of? If I'm going to do what I was born for the things I was brought into this world to do. Or is this what I was created. Was this created for to huddle under the blankets and stay. Warm. That does feel good though it feels amazing. Warm blanket especially when it's all three of us. Remember that yesterday. Feet are cold sometimes all the time man that's one thing. That's why. We're socks. I should start wearing socks again, the ones that you got. Cold feet on me. Got Me. And you make it hard to breathe. Covered with blankets don't like it. Oh Okay I'll fix. You don't always have to be in the middle, but that's usually where you let's not get too crazy. What do you mean like the Middle Okay Good? Good. Good knowing that. Not want ever want you to be uncomfortable. That's weird when I told him to get get us a bed. He got us a twin bed. kind of small but not really just allows us to really use our our heat I guess it just depends on how you interpret it. All depends on the bed might be huge. At least this podcast ticket detour went right down the toilet. Hey, there's a lot of people that would love to have a twin bed to share between three people. See. Bam brought it back. All right and you WANNA, take us on out of here. Absolutely they everybody for taking out this especially those on the livestream. If he has did catch this live please make sure you guys come back tomorrow because we have Ryan holiday on and then if you're listening to this on itunes side check our youtube channel right away because of maybe we're live currently but please make sure you're following the podcast at Mark Mills Power Project on Instagram at MB power project on twitter linked in facebook youtube. was at Andruzzi insieme, where you at NC Maniac on Instagram and Youtube and union tokens with mark. I WanNa, give a shout out to my boy Sean provost from Dutch. You know we had him on the podcast many many times. And he good friend of mine but. So what happened was he's the person that sent me that documentary of the WAS IT Lawley if I think I saw hopefully it's off from fat Lawley to six pack Lawley area. So he's the one who sent me that documentary in watching that documentary. I, was like well. You he he paid to have people with him, live with him, and he paid for people to train with him and all these different things. And but the person sending over to me with Sean and so when I? When I thought about it a little bit later on I was like. Actually know someone that can do that for Sean. So. Mike I'm just going to set him up. So I sat are Boy Sean with George Lockhart Oh Shit and George Lockhart and staff are going to go and like just give sean the full treatment and I think it's great because I think it's very brave of him to step into those waters of just saying like Hey, you know I'm GONNA turn my nutrition I'm GonNa turn my fitness somebody else and let them let the professionals handle it and let them come through and let them Them help me out is lighting. It's great. It's great. It could be you know super beneficial for the whole family and I think it's i. think it's awesome. So I just wanted to give. Michelle. Thousands I I admire that I think that's a that's great and then with awesome is actually Wayne had tagged all of us and the podcast on I believe his name's Anthony Lollies Post one m saying like, oh. Yes. You GotTa get him on Mark Wells Power Project, and then he responded and so we're we're working on scheduling him so. Shout out to Shawn's Co host Wayne, Jensen who actually set that all up our boys got our backs and so hopefully, we can return the favor and get him does know about these secret message day morning workouts they have over there at the hangar at the Dutch bros. hanger. They got this secret workout going on I got a Selfie from Wayne with your brother in the background I'm like, Whoa like, Hey, what's going on here? Yeah. They built their own gender there and everything we gotta go over and check it out sometime. Yeah it's pretty sick. Very cool. All right I'm at. Bell strength has never a week this week this never strength Catchall Ada.

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The Tony Kornheiser Show

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"Go to Duke's!"

"Act. Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show. I'm picking Duke to win because I hope I'm wrong, and I never win the pool and I've got to win. I think Duke will women Astle championship and hope that Carolina us just gotta hate. Different different route with exact same as berry game as berry berry. Carolina dance. Caroline. That's. Luga is for Luga is so sick of me texting. Mentioned that. This is General George Washington. And you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. Alrighty, then we are live at chatter. We're at the corner of Wisconsin avenue northwest and Jennifer streets northwest this Orleans show this week we will come back on Monday and do the show again. We are a full service wreck profit restaurant. No more brackets after today today. We spike Braun shock Todd doing brackets everybody on this show will have a bracket in by noon today. I want to go over the specials here. And first of all we wish Steve the sycophant. Steve halter. Yes. He birthday today. He's here. Hey, great jobs for all of the NCAA tournament games, which you can watch because we have eleven TV's. We also have twenty one beer taps. We have three dollar Bud Light drafts during games during games. Three dollar bug light drafts. Five dollar bold rock cider drafts and twenty dollar buckets of Bud Light, bud and Michelob ultra that is available for you here in honor of world water day and still Artois has something to do with this world water day is tomorrow. I think you can get this today. And I think you can get it tomorrow as well. Three dollars Stella drafts. You get a complimentary listeria chalice each poor will provide clean water to one person in the developing world for a month. That's really that's really cool. It's awesome. The hashtag is poor at forward. Stella Artois, will donate. Seventy-two cents to water dot org, providing clean mortar to one person in the developing world for one year one year, clean water isn't that expensive? You just have to have the right process. I'm sure and that's met met team is huge on this in that campaign day, which is tomorrow. We are celebrating it here in Washington today by being poured on with two inches of clean rain water. This is the are the mornings I remember best for the last year. No, light in the sky at all and just pounding rain Constan ring, so make this your NCAA tournament headquarters chatter that'll make me happy and will stop all of the money that we lose which would be great when you decided on these beer special. Stay aware that there's twelve hours of game time the next two days, right? Yeah. Say did it'll come as price and no one that I'm a big bold rock site or fan. I heard that yesterday. They have that on tap. I may get on the way. So course, you haven't heard of. That you're not. Stay in fried are the best days. Thursday Friday the best day of the tournament. Yes. You get to see teams have a chance you never thought. You don't know anything about him. I will get to this. The play games later. I have enjoyed the plane games. I've watched the plane for shrimp. I've enjoyed it's not the it's the play in game. Yes. It was so great because we had Grant Hill on the show haven't heard of him and and grant referred to them, and he's paid to to do the games and grand referred to them as the plane. That's happy because they are coached you still get paid your bonus for tournament win. I would say Belmont is considered to have won their first ever tournament game. And I'm okay with that as long as people know they wanna play in game. That's that's my kids. I my kids were all over me. Daddy got to fill out your bracket on Tuesday. And I'm like, no what learn a card but important lesson these games do not matter, but they're fun to watch fun to watch. I so so we're going to start today with something that I wandered into yesterday. And then wandered into this morning. And that was the opening of the baseball season baseball season is officially on. Now, not in the United States of America. But the standing these count in the standings there to games are being played between the Oakland Athletics and the Seattle Mariners there. Being played in Tokyo, and they're being played as an honor to each euro. There's no question that that's what this is about each the greatest. Some people would say, Sarah Harrow is the greatest hitter slugger certainly ever in Japan. But each Suzuki is the greatest overall player from Japan. He's going into the baseball hall of fame and Cooperstown first ballot question, he's got three thousand eighty seven hits. And he played seven seasons here. He'd be probably four thousand. Yeah. He's got over four thousand fifty four. He's like forty five forty. He is reports are that. He is retiring after these games. Right. Well, this is what's. So I'm watching I wandered into it yesterday. We had this discussion. And this is a discussion that I wanna have here. Do you think the wilpon went crazy against this will bond said this is the worst thing ever you cannot open the season outside the country. Even though the NBA does it, but but the NBA gets a special pass from Mike no matter what the NBA does. And I said, Mike, it's a business. Unlike American professional football and the business people actually play baseball in a lot of countries around the world, and it's a business and you're expanding your business. Why shouldn't you be able to do this? And might you said, no. The NBA. Does it are you at their tone? Okay. So we will we will get to that discussion. But how does he think the NBA has gotten to the point where they have so many great international players by making that product available for years communities to those audience. I mean, it's the same make a world sport. Yeah. Elevate. This is the person who doesn't believe that free agent. Trauma is good for other sports only the NBA, even though free agent drama is good for all sports. All the time. That's up scientific. We'll get to that. Just keeps the sports. I just the more. You are in the news for things that aren't someone being arrested usually the better, right? I just don't understand on the other side of that. Like if Tony. Shrugging here. Explain something that I can't explain. So anyway, I start to watch today. And I watch each euro get his first at bat and in the first inning, and he pops up large foul line large area in foul territory in a lot of major league parks. This would not have been an apples out. And then before he gets up in the fourth inning, the people in the booth are saying that BUSTER only is up early always up early because he learned to milk cows morning. Yes. And BUSTER only is confirming something that was a local story in Tokyo that each euro has told the Mariners. He's retiring after this game after this count. So I watch his second at that hoping he gets a hit. He it's sharp ground ball to second base. He's he's thrown out in the moment. You say to yourself that. Wow. That's pretty cool. He's going to retire. He's got over three thousand hits he's going to the hall of fame. He led a tremendous amount of people from Japan into the major leagues, and he's a really great player, and he's he sort of hung on last year briefly. And then became a member of the coaching staff is that forty four at battles. The last couple years have been right? Yeah. So I think he came back for these two games. Whether he gets a hit or not, he's cheered, obviously Japan. So the whole issue is he didn't get one yesterday. He's presently as we record this. Oh for two what's gonna have? When you hear this? It's going to be overly. I would think that if he got a hit that they would take him out at that moment, I base. So what let me go back to the original premise, what do you think about opening the major league season a week early and out of the country? I don't have a problem with it in. The main reason is that there are so many damn baseball games in a season that I get the argument to snot starting the football season. Maybe know. I wouldn't know even here for but to me, you know, there's a hundred sixty two of these they are by by nature there and for somewhat less valuable than each game. So I like the opening day but not every team plays on opening the tickets note at right? And then there's they're off they often do that they play they play the Wednesday. They're off until Friday. So I mean, it's kind of an Iraq. I have no problem with it. Because I do think it's all aimed at both rewarding a a region that is baseball crazy. But then also trying to spread the game around. It's great that each euro will I guess if bussers right finish his career in Japan. I'm pushback, I think. Could just as easily have been an exhibition series. I mean, you can still do it. I'm not against doing it. But it's for me. It's largely lost. I mean opening day has that cachet but to be opening the season essentially against the NCAA tournament as a sort of semi starved sports fan who's gone through sort of the desert of Super Bowl to now March madness. I mean is it is it any less of any less import? Let's remove each arro- from the equation because it's not this isn't why they're doing they've done it before. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I believe I think they have done is Mexico. I don't know if it's of any lesser value to the to the audience over there if it's just a premier exhibition series. But I mean, you can do it. If you want Michael I don't think it could work every year. The each euro story makes us work. I was against this until I saw the visuals excuse me when I saw the frames of what what the stadium looked like it is packed in there. It's not just that. It's packed. It's the billboards. It's local sign it's everything that you love about baseball. It brings me back when you think about like Yonki stadium when you think about all these all these big ballparks. And it's so I actually saw it working. I'm all for it. I don't know from a structural standpoint. What do you do after this game? So they have on their schedule. More spring training games are these just split squad? And the major league squad just goes back home, and they have a full four or five days off opening days. Not what it once was as soon as it dipped into March. I think everything changed and you're going to see more of these glorified exhibitions where they do recognize over under sixty two. We can we can play with a few of them. But but from from an actual standpoint of how you use spring training. What are they doing with the roster because you're still trying to get a couple roster spaces nail down what he'd doing for the rest of spring training? How are you making these decisions as to where you're going to send some your minor leaguers? But once you see once you see the video of this. I think it changes your mind. So my position on it was that I don't like it. But I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. Because it's each euro. And it's Japan and honor should be paid to him for what he's done, and I'm okay with it. Because it's Oakland Seattle. They're gonna play each other nineteen times. They're in the. Same division. So if they play each other a week early and they play in Japan. I'm completely okay. If this had been Tampa and the giants like some inter league. I would've said what do you do there? Also, west coast teams, right? As you can guess, yes. It's the travel isn't onerous for them. I mean, it's all of these things lineup where you get to say. I don't love it. Don't love it. Because Michael twins out. They come back and they've got three or four five days of train, which I assume now will be done simply around their home park. Yes. Roster decisions. But when I saw each row playing right? I really liked it by the way Healey each row in what figures to be his last at bat top of the seventh up three to just struck out looking. And that was that was surprising. Because the as brought in Brett farve. I did think about that that, but it is a major one. Yeah. But it is a major if it's not a three two game. Maybe he gets that three to game with a runner on second. So I thought that was interesting to me his, and I wandered into it because I literally at five thirty. I was from starting right? Clicking on started a little while before that. But I was clicking on to find sportscenter and I found this game. And I did not know yesterday. I did not know that that was beginning of the baseball. He had a few years there where when his swing was completed. He was a third of the way to I. I'm looking at his career numbers. I mean, really a over two hundred hits a lot three fifty one fifty two three seventeen lifetime. Batting average in the last five years again player. He hasn't right since twenty tw- the last year he had over three hundred twenty twelve. Could steal a base. He had a great. He he stole fifty six. Yeah. Thirty one thirty four thirty six forty five forty three forty two. He still obviously older. I'm just going to read a bunch more numbers. You make them. When we come back. Chuck Todd will give us his bracket. I'm real news, worn Heiser. Listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the ZipRecruiter app. I'm going to take option. Number three. This time hit a hiring used to be hard multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes, confusing review review process, but today, hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. 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What people say people say people say we don't care what people say doesn't matter. Mattie way. This is a band called cookie coaxed, obviously the name of the songs people say the album is put the night on their starting live show. Isis early this year playing at the parlor bar and kitchen the Newport, Rhode Island tomorrow as usual playing great music this summer at the Ritz on Martha's, Vineyard and Fridays at the landfall foment, they extend an open invitation to us. But the odds are they'll see Brian Bowman before. Vampire, k will most likely you'll say the same thing you've said the last few times you've played us about having never been the Cape Cod. I have never been Cape Cod. House from Lulea, then who are crooked coast. Chuck Todd joins us now for his bracket to we thanked Chuck for being here on the live show last Sunday night. And if you're ready to go we'll start with the Virginia side of the bracket and what he got in the first round for us. All right. My upset. I'm going with Oregon Irvine. As my two sets in that first route. So everything else Chuck, but Oregon over Wisconsin and vine over Kent state. So this is interesting to me a lot of people have now they have gone for Oregon. This is a terrible conference. Although Arizona state wanna play in game this terrible conference. Why do you what do you like about Oregon because you have Wisconsin is in competitive in a good conference? If at look this is I'm revealing a tiny bit of I'm very dangerous. I read just enough information to sound knowledgeable and also about sports. But. Oregon if we had gone at the old ways they used to the which is your record in the last ten games. Oregon wouldn't have been a twelve organ would have been eight or nine seat. They're playing much better in the last twelve games than they did before they're on a roll. So that they look they they they look like the type of team that gets streaky. There's always one of those gets in. They have that streaky field to them. They changed their lineup and they've been good ever since. And then obviously that Irvine pickets because looks Kansas state's not gonna have their best player. So let's let's go out into the round of sixteen who do you have? I am putting I'm advancing Oregon over on that. And then I got billing over over Purdue and Cincinnati over Tennessee and taking Tennessee out here to those those are I you. V8. right. I do. I do I'm hot on on Villanova. I'm I think they're they're like I would that's a team. I'm sure nobody wants to produce hates the fact that that's their if they get through that that's their six, you know, that that familiar coach with how this works anyway. And I love that Nick dot so intensive Cincinnati, man. He's very he's playing Columbus too. To take like here. Just take a part of a season off because they were worried that he would like stroke out on the sideline. Now. He's back. I agree and he went into all right for junior, Oregon. A change my TV because the tint of his body very red. Genial? Yeah. You've got up got a favor here in this bracket. Not a single AC. They don't have to pay single teaching took to that. You know, what I heard about the Virginia bracket, which I thought was really interesting ten of the thirty slowest teams, meaning take the most time off the shock most half Cortines are in that brand every well for them. You would how over Cincinnati. Gotten villanova. So who and who do you have coming out? And then and then the coming up, look, I'll admit the one thing. I did. I think the toughest game is a game. I didn't have him do, which is Wisconsin. Yeah. Yeah. But I had mitt that that that scares me. Organ doesn't take Wisconsin outside that seems to be UBS puppets. Okay. Let's go to Carolina bracket. What he got? This is pretty Schalke. I only have one upset in the first round northeastern. I got I'm watching out the big twelve. That's that was that was one thing. I noticed I was doing I didn't even plan on it. But I've noticed that when in data picked against the big twelve any particular reason will get in Iowa State over Ohio State, right? Yes. All chock to the rest of the the rest of the way. You're right. I didn't do that. Only Ohio State. I I don't understand how they're in the terminal. Neither do I neither do I. And I would say playing pretty well in and my grandparents my grandparents went Tyler states. That's fine. Then that's resin. Can I do that? Yes. So. Yeah, met there. John Carolina, Utah state assume Carolina Carolina there I have Auburn in the sixteen and then I have Iowa State not gonna Houston only 'cause I just don't buy Houston. And that's probably my own. I didn't watch them by. Kentucky. And then Kentucky over Wofford. I'm bumper Wofford that they play Kentucky in the second round. Or in the first round. I had new mix of New Mexico state of mind just played their gates. North carolina. Go run burn Chuck who you got North Carolina airline at the bottom. Where you have the Kentucky Kentucky. Yeah. And this is this is the there. I really really really wanna take North Carolina here. And I just I didn't wanna do all ACC final four. So I I panicked and went Kentucky over Carolina. Really? But yeah, I'm going I've been going back and forth because I just don't want. What care minor? He works in. He flopped. What's word? Good job. Beat the pret-. Cool. I put Kentucky my final four you Kornheiser. It's iraq. Mind. This is this is fun. What about the Duke bracket? Okay. My upsets, I got I got Belmont over Maryland, though, is that an upset anymore. And I'm doing Yale over LSU, even though I should know better. But I just I just I'm sorry teams with drama. I mean, it just feels like you sort of know where this is headed there. Yeah. They're coach is not there. Somewhere else? Maybe jails. And maybe it does Gary write it rarely does. I think when when the coaches away like that works. Yeah. What about you have move over Minnesota in the Patino bowl? You've got that. Yes. I do. I do. Yeah. Okay. I am I'm kicking Michigan state with Louisville real room. I only only to make it a little bit easier. I think for Purdue CT, but I bought lable. The only thing here other than I think they can be Michigan stick. Okay. So you what about Mississippi State Virginia Tech? I got Mississippi State winning that one. And in the great Belmont Gail match. You have. I'm gambling on Yale to get to the Sweet Sixteen. It's a nice little process. But I'm putting Bill. You know? I just thought I throw the monkey something. That's great. That right now, it's a good one be Reginald. So I'm I think you'll have Duke beating Mississippi State, but I'm I do little over Belmont over Belmont. And then and then do Duke over local. So now that's three ACC teams in the plane. Chuck Todd's final four in the bracket. Go ahead. What do you got? All right. So this is where we can have fun first round. Just Murray day is my only again a naturally call that up that. At this point, but underdog giving the twelve five. Yeah. Technically. Technically. Then next round. I got Nevada taken out Michigan. Wow. That's a well. I think Nevada I think under kind of like to. The way under seeded Nevada's the team that if some teams that from a non power five gets to the final four, I would put my money on Nevada Tang. I got Texas Tech speeding buffalo and then Florida state over Murray and Gonzaga over to us. And then. Well, I got Florida state, and I often Dauga. I got Nevada knocking off Texas Tech United not gonna go. I'm aiming to Florida state, and I'll again in reality. So I don't know if they can beat Michigan counting on Nevada. Not cat piece in this house is wife is a Florida state. Yeah. A little bit. He's also trying to try on nuts home. Cooking. All come on an all final four. What does that do to the big ten standing work rushes? And this was the exact final four of the ACC. Wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where are they playing the final four because now I would suggest no no just go to Raleigh, totally Charlotte. Mike ski to be the comments. That I think is the way to go, Greensboro, Florida state. Duke, and you UVA North Carolina. Over UVA give the give the people what they want vision shows here. Yes. I got to buy one point and everytime recovered a by one point. Larry king. Yeah. Glad you're still with all right about that. Soda to be Carolina by one in the in the final game see tournament. So it it it it's so it goes, so I know by now because enough people have told me that Duke and North Carolina have never played in this tournament. But I I that was a real head scratcher for me because they've been so good festival long. I didn't know that. I would never have assumed that right? They never played watch. I watch too much ACC basketball sort of in the same way. Probably the only guy that the next Seton Hall. Because he watches too much biggie. But I seen any team better than do. Kronos, Carolina's here. There's so much talent Kentucky has maybe equal talent. But they just you know, they, and they may go a run late that and North Carolina that I it was most basketball game. I'd seen in a while matchup that semi that was what happens here, and we'll ban leads this charge. And Grant Hill we had him on the show yesterday. And he said the same thing he said that people doubt dukes shooting outside shooting isn't very good. It's really not very good at all in making threes. But if you make forty two tools go to win. Yes. You know? I just going to win the game. Because. They zion. Williamson shoots like seventy percent. And you can keep giving him the ball as long as sneakers don't blow up. He'll be out there. I watched I watched the one game. I went and person happened to be dukes Turkey Turkey's game that Turkey's one and Zion had thirty five and ten I think that night. I mean, he was staying to starters out that night. Yeah. That's right. And they had their guy. Owed for ten from three point three pointer still scored eighty three point. Yeah, they lost by two because Syrah to shot out of their mind. Like Duke was so physically better than Syracuse. But then circus just could mitt, but the point was even then they were like something like one for sixteen or some ridiculous three point, you know, terrible. And they and they scored eighty three points. So and by the way, every time you say, oh, they can't hit the three. I watched Zion hit a three, you know. He's like a sneaky good report shoot or two and nobody ever see the coming. When he does it probably trees. We'll they really have to do to win. This. You. I think the rank like three hundred something in shooting threes if they were ranked two hundred and fifty shooting they would win ornament, John style. I think is on staff at Duke. I mean, literally put that he'd probably thirty some put it in a year for Shire refined style. Tire is deeply effective impeachment campaign. Thank you that guy could hit from anyway. Thank you, Chuck Chuck Todd boys to meet the press that sits it's just a wonderful thing that we never ask him any political question. It makes me so happy. I we will take a break. And we will have news returning. Do the news. I am Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is hot pink. Hangover guitarist Davey is with us today. What Nigel and I will packages of gifts which were very happy about this is a song called baby girl. 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Oh, so if your brackets already busted, go online and via self new pullover. And to celebrate all this rain. I'd recommend you look into the Noah striped polo shirt. That would be great. That would be great Noah four national organization atmosphere dealing shirt, or the that's the one there is there is a Noah, right? There is a federal agency. Yes, national county, Eric ducks you have some news for us. I do Mr Tony. We'll start off with college basketball game locally. Here did not go the way most locals hoped. It would Georgetown falls to Harvard. Chris Lizzy your thoughts. That's tough building to play him. It is still little better school. So I've got that going my kid last night. It's like Harvard tartar to get into Georgetown, right down. Getting in either of them. Yeah. Yeah. Not a good game loss to add McDonnell, which is a twenty five hundred seat on campus arena. I didn't go in person those many my friends did because I knew that my rage could not be bottled. If we lost in person is not a bad snow a kid. They've kid named Brice something or other who's very good. Who scored they've been in the NCAA's a lot lately. They were they were better. Everyone a play Harvard on neutral court this time of year. You know, Michael your words hurt, and yeah, it's not great James Kinjo is the freshman of the year in the beginning. So we got that going for us really even though he dribbled twenty five seconds at a time. Yeah. And he does the great thing where he over penetrates. And then throws the ball five hundred miles an hour at the guy's head right next to him. But yes, he was a freshman year. A couple of playing games last night. Both North Dakota state tight the hallway Carolina central came back in that game. Took the lead North Dakota state ended up winning that game at the foul line. Good round one games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Saint John's is going home Zona St. Pete's them seventy four sixty I told you they speak, and they was never close. The bigger was now close the big east is Owen to tournament games. At this point. This does set up Bobby Hurley coaching against the school buffalo where he started that is ranked team with the players he recruited. I don't wanna go crazy here. I don't wanna diminish the job that the current coach is doing that would be very foolish to think that will Bobby Hurley just handed him this great playing staff and anybody can coach them. That's not true. But that will be interesting to see how if Hurley has insight that maybe somebody else does I believe I'm checking this. But I believe Bobby Hurley Bobby Hurley landed on the state since twenty fifteen so his players are not. Well, maybe that seniors are guys. Mostly. Yeah. I never you. Never wanna diminish the job done. Right. Coach. Right. I mean, I think as far as motivation goes beating buffalo is more important to Bobby Hurley personally than than beating Bobby Hurley as personally to the players at buffalo. Yes. That's probably to go ahead to basketball misses. Tony another was a few games that you wanted to talking. Segue the leg to to professional level. Maybe. To give you this quote. I watched this on TV today. I watched Joel Embiid say these exact words come. I'm the most unstoppable player in the league. I watched that. He said, I'm the most unstoppable player in the league. This is after the Sixers beat the Celtics. He had thirty seven and twenty two. I mean, if you're ever going to say, you're the most unstoppable player in the league. That's what he had. He had forty and fifteen. Yeah loss. He's very wasn't. Once they beat. They won seven seven two seven three. I don't know. I don't happen. Out there shooting threes. Okay. You are a good basketball fan, and you know, basketball, well program height seven foot, if what you have the option of taking either onto combo or Embiid who would you take Janice? One hundred percent based on injury history. I mean. Embiid missed two full years effectively. Right. He did not play his first two years in the league. And he's a big guy is I guess. On us in here, basically, similar height it. Although I think you're probably a little bit shorter. Here in this. Right. Right. And beat is a bigger body. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think if you want anyone for the next ten years it's Yang which would take either. And you take in. Karl Anthony towns as well. Yes. These are asking say if it's illegals NAACP draft, you can have Jaanus. I'll take Embiid. And I don't think I don't think it's. I don't think it's Kevin Durant. And Greg Oden in retrospect. At least been paint, man. It's not that it's one in one or one to two is close to one. But I still think Jaanus me to James harden younger I believe not not by a lot. But I think he might be a little young James harden at fifty seven points and Memphis beat us at the end of the game because they had on a rebound. A one of the Houston players one of the Memphis players was fouled. And he went to point though, wanted to go in a game. So. Although it's been very good thing that you can make that call. You don't make that call would point one the go. You just don't make Houston has been fifty seven seven eight. Yeah. I mean, he's crazy. Like watching him play. I do. I would you wanna play with them? Yes. Because I don't think he's I know we talk about his ball, hog ary. But I actually don't let them in assists. He. When he was playing with basically me you Nigel in Michael's shouldn't have passed now that Capellas back. Chris Paul is back. He passes more. Okay. What else tough loss for the wizards? They fall in overtime to bulls. While the bulls are outstanding Jordan Scottie Pippen heaven game one twenty six twenty two. So Otto porter who was traded to the bowls and has done pretty well there did not play in that game. That Levin did not play in that game the two leading scores. The two people who came to the wizards in that trade, Bobby Portis and Jabari Parker played dwelt had forty three points between them the wizards lose again, they had you know, they've had a season. It's very tough season. When you best player is gone for virtually the whole season, but they're eight and twenty eight on the road. That's really bad. You can't be playoff team. Yes. You can't be playoff team there and everybody, I don't know. I mean, we talked about this with David all. Dirge the other day. This is the end of the third year of Scott Brooks. He makes seven million dollars a year. He has two more years left. That's fourteen million dollars. I don't know that he's a bad coach. But I don't think he's done anything, particularly well, not appear to be the answer. And and John wooden. John wall comes back. You don't know how much diminished capacity. He's going to have physically. This does not look like a team. That's built to do. Anything is coming back next year. I don't think so. Okay. So he'll another year. Well, I mean, he tires at in a month and a half ago that you know. Coming back to bad because Dwight Howard really help this year. He was a really big and those. Very serious injuries. But out this even talk about him, assuming at this point. He just doesn't want to saving him for next year. Well, that's true too. Is is that a Scott Brooks said Monday, the wizards haven't shut down Howard back for the season. Despite being limited to non contact work. Fiso play with nobody else. What do you do with him? What are you doing with him? I think he just took the money. I think once once the stories came out about him after the they basically reached an accord that he would not he would not be on the court better for all parties involved resting for the playoffs. What else? This is a great headline, though, why Dwight Howard's continued absence likely increases chances he returns for the wizards next season. So that's been tastic fresh Howard jump. Yes to baseball. Mr Tony was a great day for Eloy Jimenez who has yet to play a day in the major league at bats. No at bats go to six year, forty three million from the White Sox. Michael. Can you explain this is this? They just sort of fooling around with the service rules when they do this because they really like him as a prospect, and they wanna make sure that he can't leave at a certain point. Or does this just mean we love this guy this much? I hope it's the. Second. You sort of always see the service rules that they do and usually people try and hide it a little bit more. Yeah. And they come up with injuries. I hope it's the latter. Just for the just for the or not a single major league about twenty three million way guy should make that money would no career at bats. If he's a pitcher. That's crazy. Seems it seems crazy too. Good to be him. Yes. The white sex also washed out on their attempts to land Machado and Chato and Harper. They obviously have a bunch of money kicking around and wanna make some kind of splash this kid. That's a plus ways to split up money. And we'll get to this story Anthony Ren dome. Guess has rejected the first offer. I don't know. It's the first offer rejected an offer by the NATs. Anthony Ren don't is represented by Scott Boris who famously signed Stephen Strasburg to an extension and more famously got Bryce Harper outta there to get even more money than he was offered by the nets at more years, though. We don't know how that's going to turn out. I don't think if you're and I love the nets. I do. I'm a fan. If you're the NATs. I don't think you can lose Harper and Ren don't. I just don't. Don't I think you're gonna won't lose her in don't? Yeah. They made the conscious decision when they did not go all in on Harper that they were putting that money aside. Foreign don't now in these intervening months. What happened you had two big extensions with bregman and with air Nado that is completely changed trout. And then you yes, you can throw trout, and you can even throw the third baseman Machado and just as some of these comps that are out there. Now, I think rejection is the technically correct word, but it doesn't it doesn't kill issue going. It doesn't capture the mood of this. If you don't if you're not from this area. He's a relatively spoken player. He seems to want to be here. But I think he also wants fair value for his services, particularly because he's been snubbed by all these postseason awards and all star game appearances. And I think he wants that recognition. But you also have to take into context that a few weeks back. He reminded everyone knows Scott Boras works for me and Boris doubled down on that saying follow my player in this. If I'm being very cynical. I. Worry that Boris is in his ear saying I'm going to I'm going to get everything I can out of these guys because they did me wrong personally with Harper. And I want to get them back. Now. I don't think I don't think Ren don't really be part of that. But that would be my one where here I think those talks are going to continue. And I think they said renting's perfectly perfectly comfortable holding onto those talks about this. I think the I think the Strasbourg thing is more anomalous in the Harper thing is more the rule for over Morris because I think that Strasbourg wink to him and said I'd like to stay and again Strasbourg with his history of injury. You know, I mean on the open market. I don't know that he gets as much money for as long. I think Boris is thing is push people to free, and I'm really hoping that's not the case with Ren dome. But I the Strasbourg thing seems to me to being except and we talked about that time like for some of these guys good enough. Is good enough? I wouldn't describe Boris Weightman for some of the players. Can I say one thing about the White Sox guy? You were just talking about whose name I've already forgotten. You law Jimenez. Okay. Six years forty three million. So Bryce Harper two months after being drafted I overall in twenty ten signed a five-year nine point nine million dollar contract with the nets and in twenty fourteen signed eight to year, seven and a half million dollar extension with the nets. That's insane. What is happened to that market? And this year's we'll get outta here. We will have spike Braun, right? That's radio and old guy radio. When when we return, I am Tony Kornheiser. You'll listening to the Tony Kornheiser show admitted you think that cybercrime is something that happens to other people. I think that yeah. I admit it. I think that he's on the record. He admits you may think that wants data or that. Hackers. 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One more time spike is with us unexcused absence from school for ten minutes while you ready to start with with the Virginia bracket. Are you ready? Tell me spike, tell me your upsets in the first round including nine over eight. All right. Have you hear knocking off kid sneaks? Okay. I have I one off Cincinnati. Sid. Ten seven ten seven. I will lead by marinas own Luke Garza. You got the rest of it is chalk. In other words. You have Wisconsin over Oregon. Right. And you have all miss you. Gotta ole miss. Okay. Take take us into the next round. So for Virginia omega. I've virginia. Okay. Contin UC Irvine. I still Irvan they're playing in San Jose. I think they'll make the exte-. Steve what else you got? Purdue over Villanova. And Tennessee over aisles. Okay. Do you have do you have Irvine going even further and beating Virginia? No. I don't think Virginia will do they last year? I think at least negative feeling okay? What about at the bottom of this strong? I tennis not Purdue. I Admiral show field. And grant Williams, and I like, Tennessee. So do you like Tennessee over Virginia? Yes. I do. Whoa. Knocking out for Jinya with Tennessee with an SEC team. Okay. Let's go right to the Carolina bracket. Give me everything in the first round. I have no upsets chalk. That's okay. You don't have to. Yeah. I won't be back next year. You can do this. Can do this. This is okay. I'm writing feverishly. Okay. Then give me the second round in this region. North carolina. And i've. Right. Auburn beating Kansas to that's a five. Yeah. She his beating I was state road. And I wanna go with Walker, and I like Fletcher McGee so fun to watch. But I have two kids. So this is this one has a one two three five Auburn UNC Auburn spike UNC Davey. Okay. And at the bottom, Houston Kentucky. Can touch and who do you have coming out into the final four North Carolina? Okay. I would have gotten worried if twice he picked an SEC team over. Let's let's go to dukes region. Go ahead. Give me the top first round stuff. I attend your phone not eighteen you talk. 'cause I like the name taco bowl, but to any seven seven. Seventy six fake news. Is that is the only one you've got in the first round. Liberty knocking off the city state. Okay. Twin flow. Yell knocking off LSU. I think I did that in my bracket as well. So you do keep Maryland and keep peace in your own house. In the car with me right now. So I'd be kicked out if I didn't choose nearly done. It's a rainy day so pick Maryland. Okay to central Florida. He got. And liberty Virginia Tech. I got Virginia. Check Maryland against jail. You could probably go one more round with Maryland. You're going to do that. Yeah. I think I will, you know, pretty good. But. China's in happens that's going to be expensive for me. Because then he's gonna wanna go to dries in and see them play the Capital One where they call that thing. Now, do you love your kid or not Michigan state Louisville? I think I'll be close game. But I've Michigan state, okay? Duke for Jimmy tech. They played a bunch this year. He got. And at the bottom, you're going to take Maryland over Michigan state or be safe. Yeah. How does she winning now? And Duke Michigan state. Now in like in the first couple of ground you have to choose better player, but I just think Michigan state's better teeth. And I think they'll not to go. Such. Okay. The tag bracket ahead when he got in the first round I in the Zanga bracket. I ain't nothing Arquette. And. That's it for. Okay. So you. I'm writing. So you have Nevada against Michigan. Spike loves. I didn't sad. Syracuse. Good coach. But you can't go into team the averages eight twenty game. So tons Agassi's. Okay. Molly state, Florida state. Galvanise gotta go within Murray. State buffalo, Texas Tech. Sorry to moms, but Texas Texan. Nevada michigan. See this year. I believe told my dad that is going to the final four I like that they have twins seizures. But Michigan just to talented. So we have outta train sag Murray state that this is the end for John Moran this games at it. If it is. Texas Tech pretty good team against Michigan. Yeah. Texas Tech is good. But michigan. I like the big I have Michigan took Michigan over gun sag. No. I did not send to setting the watch. I like really and Zach Novell I think is going to make it. So I'm gonna say this all the brackets. I have written down. I believe that. This is the first one with schools from four different conferences in the final four leave everybody else. Doubled up on the ACC or the big ten got vic- SEC. No. Oh, yeah. You're right. He's got he's got four the only person out there with four different conferences. Michigan state Gonzaga's by got. I got Jaga. And Tennessee UNC. I got UNT. I think they carry the load. There is done jagged north terminal rematch. Who do you live? I like the team that's going to most points. I'm going with. Nobody has done that. I would never do that. Because they played no has been around a long time. Last. Nobody just played. Nobody. That's great. So we like one this thing. Yes. Two thousand fifteen he could win it again. Thank you so much go back to school. No, no watching games on your phone. Wait till you get home today. This is the here's a fine. He's the governor. Right. He's the only one that took. No, not just to took the form. Yeah. Right. Is there anybody else that we have do we have everybody up, and we can see that? I don't think anybody L we can research that. And maybe have that for you. I don't like how good he was. He was good. I take him. He's an active threat to me at this point. He was good. He will he will point out when he won. He was a little baby. So now now he feels like he knows something watches, which is hurt your ability to win. I think the more, you know. That's right. That's what I except for last year. Dudes like forty and wilbon at the bottom. But forty two yes, he did forty one last year. Well, aga- wins the kiddo in this year. I mean, you just gotta be right. There is something out there there are there are so many stories about how Gonzaga this year has more talent than they've ever had. And how Mark few is a great coach. I don't know that. That's true. I mean, I think he's a fine. Go kid. They have really had to more be he's in the top five in all almost all mock draft. Yeah. Joe weather than Adam Morrison, then work out all that. Well, but other than that a Morrison they've not had a kid who's projected that high. No, I don't think they have. I don't think I mean, they've had talent. But you know, but they've only once made the final four they've been to one or two or three seat a whole lot. Yes. And they've only made at once I think not last year, but the year before they get to the final game that was the South Carolina, Gonzaga, Oregon. South carolina. Yes. South Carolina, two years ago. Zona South Carolina, Oregon Carolina and Gonzaga on Carolina Gary guy, he used to be the Kansas state coach Frank Martin. Right. Who is a man who's at South Carolina. Yes. Very controlling nuts. We will take a break. And I'd want small story. I wanted to share with you. We didn't have time to do it in news. I wanted to take you to Abilene, Texas where a homeowner was used some cleaning in a crawlspace underneath his house. And notice the snakes. Yeah. You know, cooled snake guy. So we call Nathan Hawkins who think who owns big country snake removal, coal that guy Ryan movie, and he didn't find Brian Reeves if I wanna big country, but that's a long way. Well, John, Oklahoma state baby. All right haircut number. So he didn't find just kinda Messner exist to guess how many snakes found on any house? I'm gonna go underneath the house. You're you know, you're in regular land Magor less live one hundred fifty thirty Chris. One twenty seven forty five snakes forty five rattlesnakes rattlesnake. Yes. Yes. Rally video of reaching in with this tone, and the snakes are not very happy about this. Removed from their home. I said well during the winter months, they all congregate together for warmth. And then after that they spread out and do the thing countryside creatures. Yes. But he said this is an average day for me is the most of ever removed from a house eight rattlesnakes from just specialize in rattlesnakes. I think because that's the area. Yeah. And then he takes me doesn't kill them. He releases them out into the wild as or so there can be more rattlesnake. Sure. Emmys. Yes, they can grow to more than six feet long and live for twenty years. These Reynolds nights. Thank you. Why do we want to have them situation? What they must help us with something. I'm sure in the ecosystem there are some help us with something. Yeah. But maybe they killed people who are trying to take selfish, and we need that by the way, mentioning Abilene, Texas gives us the opportunity to to remind people that Abilene Christian place Kentucky today. Thursday in the tournament has the coach with the one suit who tore his pants. You saw this. He ripped it when they won their celebrating. So he's playing with he's coaching with the ripped pants. This. Last night from North Dakota state than teaching advertising. What was going on? Whether you really want your coats wearing that t shirt, I don't like play Mike Bray. Remember, Mike, brace startled, the mock turtleneck finally Leonard Hamilton doing the t shirt, and now this guy actually, I thought it waiters Lewis. It was very odd. So have Email jingle when we return. I'm told me Kornheiser you'll listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Graduate. Journalist. Therms? Liz. But. Red. Wonderful. Before we get to the male dead. We thank meet the press host Chuck Todd, and spike Braun who will someday be the meet the press. Yes. Offer coming on with us today. Let me also today sponsored ZipRecruiter and express VPN. Remember to listen and subscribe to archived episodes Tony Kornheiser show wherever you listen to podcasts including apple podcasts. Spotify Google play and radio dot com. And if you listen to show through tunes, please leave us a review we were talking about the coach at North Dakota state wearing a t shirt, and Chris did some research, and we we find I hadn't I hadn't seen it. So I just looked it up, and it doesn't like a beer t-shirt. It's it's the full writing on. It is Landon slight in. It's a they're being sold as part of a fundraiser for a kid named Landon sober who's from Fargo North Dakota who has a rare type of brain cancer. So I stand totally corrected. Although it did look like as a teacher. It's a cool t-shirt so too. So we're happy to make that right? Yes. As continuing news Richman is the name of the North Dakota state coach Brett Bazi in Buffalo, New York. I see the Georgetown lost at home in the first IT. This must be devastating to solicit hope. He found comfort in at least being able to chant safety school to the fine. People are. Got her first devastated. She hadn't build Plainfield Illinois as a fan of fills mom, I was here. She's under the weather this year. If it's not too late. I'd be happy to submit my twelve year old daughters bracket predictions as an alternative option for my fellow little conflict chosen a final four saying Louis for months, Saint Mary's and own awhile her knowledge. Spoil maybe limited a recent star making turn as the Cheshire cat in middle school production in wonderland shoot. Me enough to qualify. Ours. Celebrity expert PS despite me weighing slightly less than my one hundred twenty pound dog, the dog often Hines be hides behind me when he encounters such terrifying. Things parked cars strangers and dogs that bark at him are fifteen pound dog is afraid of nothing. This is sent to us by Matthew odd during bracket week. I thought you'd appreciate the chalk Innis of my dominant this morning one to one one to one that's pretty chunky. Yeah. That's really good. And that's a Honda Civic from Eric Wooten, Charleston, South Carolina are Charleston newspaper the posting Currier recently uncovered questionable spending behavior behavior by various sheriff's offices in South Carolina. They turned up records revealing the public funds for what you might expect lavish trips expensive meals luxury accommodations, etc. In short the full TK lifestyle. But one item court, my I in addition to the typical illicit emolument, embezzlement, and or strippers from Vegas, according to the paper records indicate that since two thousand fifteen the sheriff in Richland County, which is Columbia spent ten thousand six hundred dollars at a golden corral. He typically went there two three times a month with tabs averaging one hundred seventy five dollars stoneleigh argue do some not a lot of good eaten yet. Keep your private. Lecops to bathroom situation. Just keep that truck found come baby. I'm just that's amazing and drive. It message to his nephew eat it pool. Holden Kevin Quinn in Long Beach, New York where I owned a home for a long time. Sees episodes are truly insufferable. Thank you from further. Boy birthday. Boy, see the sycophant diedhiou says, he's he's looking forward to finding a nook close to you. So I can observe your magnificence. Michael Hodson in Austin, Texas, Mr Tony all of a sudden brackets this week is great. You really should think about doing this every year if you could add a weekly gambling segment when genius in there that would be the cherry on the sun from grand Morton in Raleigh, North Carolina. Did you pull a will bomb by failing to listen to Tim Pertz? And last time he was on with you. I believe Tim's exact words were might trout is Mickey Mantle come back to life daybreak is Babe Ruth. Okay. So I I'm overstating how good Mike trout me. Right. From Aaron golden Sioux Falls, South Dakota on Tuesday's show. David Aldridge, spoke of his disdain when a woman named Kate spells her name with a C. I played the segment from eight year old daughter Kate spelled with a c she let it be known that. He is not a very nice person when I explained to her he's on her brother's NBA video games. She said that she needs to stop playing that game immediately chill said she would not be subscribing to the Atlantic. Ever. I told her if she means it might be what Mr Tony likes referred to as a snow shovel situation, full disk. Closure. Her full legal name is just Cape. We spelled it with a C for two reasons. One to prevent people from calling Katie which we didn't want to because the first and middle initials would be CJ. 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Too Ambitious?

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17:46 min | 6 months ago

Too Ambitious?

"I will on third week in the attic. We're going to begin with golf appropriately. On Masters Week the British Open cancelled the PGA tour rearranges all the majors and they are apparently hopeful of starting the actual tour in June. Does that seem realistic to you? I don't know Tony about June. I you know you you hear the reporting. Even though I'm two thousand miles away plus from New York I hear the reporting coming out in New York City. I realized that's the epicenter. No places in the United States is suffering quite like New York. But I hear that and I'm like June. That sounds very ambitious. Tony like everybody else. I hope that can be the case. But I'm of the mindset that whenever you can resume these things I mean. God bless I mean. That's a wonderful thing and I know they're still looking at a calendar this compacted we get three of the four major championships in the masters in November. You still have the cup. I get all that June I mean. How great would that be if the PGA tour or anything else could start in June so golf golf and tennis but certainly golf there among the easiest sports to restart? Because you have the natural distancing on a golf course you can put people ten feet apart on the range if you want to. You can play a one some if you want to or guess and nobody has to touch anybody. You don't have to have fans if you don't want. Golf is a great television event whether without fans they don't play defense. There's no pick and roll. Nobody's touching anybody. There's no sweating on somebody. So Golf is the one in DC. Where I live until this week you could play tennis. You couldn't play golf. They figured tennis a lot of distance. Put like you. There's a word that goes around all the time and it's aspirational like you sounds a bit. Aspirational I loved the notion of all the majors showing up harder. They just canceled the British Open. Which is played in mid July? Cancel so I I want this to happen. You want this to happen. But I I don't know I reiterate something they'll Tony which maybe makes both of us more hopeful golf their space and space base the golf courses behind me in Arizona. Most of them are opening certainly allowed to be open and I have taken my son out to the golf course every couple of days. You know why because there's sunshine and there's fresh air and God knows there's more space for social distancing hundreds of yards on a golf course that you can find in the center of any major city in America so I am hopeful like you are but when you cancel the mid July and say you're hoping to a stage something in June. I don't know I really. We both would love to see the masters in November. It's apparently scheduled there on a Sunday so. Cbs Logo Football Masters. Campway can't whatever they can have it. We'd be happy Tony. Let's go to football actually bill. O'brien says he loves the Andre Hopkins and De'andre Hopkins had three years left on his deal and he wanted a raise and so Bryant says. We were not going to be able to do that then. That's a quote. There's o'briens explanation of the Hopkins Trade. Because he wanted a raise. Make any sense to you all the rest of the quote where he talks about team. We do everything for team team team. It made perfect sense to me because if you read between the lines what Bill. Brian is saying is John. Jay Hopkins is not a team player. And I don't want him around here because he's GonNa ask for more money he's going to be a disruption he may be to this team. What Antonio Brown was to the Pittsburgh steelers? This is what bill. This is what Bill O'Brien is saying. Now here's the problem with that one. Is You traded him for running back? He's a great offensive receiver. Where are your explosive plays? And you had with him into Shawn Watson. You had something that looked like it was ten years of greatness. Now what do you do about that Tony? And that's why it doesn't make any sense to me. None whatsoever with bill. O'brien the coach. He's been pretty good. I mean he's been pretty good. He's not the other bill belichick but he's he's not in the dumpers in a pretty good coach Bill O'Brien. Gm has been nothing to write home about at all and to say if he's if he's thinking De'andre Hopkins is as disruptive as a be that would be he would be and I think this is one of those cases where a coach GM. And you know how I hate. People having both those gigs thinks. He's more important than that. Now Tony you can make the argument that the Andrea Hopkins who has got a little thirty one touchdowns. Last three years is the best receiver in pro football any. He's twenty seven years old Tony. He's at a sixteen hundred yard season. A fourteen yard last year. Nearly twelve hundred yards. He's all pro every year to last three years. You WanNa give me. This is a steel for Arizona and it doesn't make any sense at all. Okay so there's there's ramifications down the road it first of all it makes it hard to get free agents to come and play for you if you're Texas because they're not sure that the Shawn Watson wants to stay because you took away his best receiver if I am Kyle. Orient Cliff Kingsbury. I am thrilled at this absolutely yielded. This we'll move on we're GONNA move on. We'll bond you have company in the Basketball Hall of fame and you're entering class and you've got three people who we want to talk about the WanNa talk about. Tim Duncan Kobe. Bryant elected posthumously. Obviously and Kevin Garnett. You study this kind of stuff. Is this the best class ever a wonderful class? It is a wonderful class and Tony has. I shouldn't say more significance but I'm gonNA save more significance because of the presence of Kobe Bryant And it's just it's just amazing and I hope that the last Friday in August as scheduled but whenever it happens it happens the induction and it's amazing but I don't really know that I feel this the greatest class because it was a class in two thousand nine that have three dream teamers on it. The greatest actual team ever assembled with Michael Jordan. David Robinson John Stockton for me a heroic person in Jerry slow and so am I going to say any class ever is better than that. Hasn't terrific classes Tony but I find it hard to put anybody above God knows again. Kobe and Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett. That's a show stopper but that two thousand nine class. I don't know how you get better than that. Go in like others. I got older. I'm going to the glasses. Nineteen eighty seven rick. Barry War Frazier Pete Marriage. It's Great Eighty Oscar Robertson Jerry Lucas Jerry. West people need to know what happens in college matters for this particular hall of Fame Schedule Serving Bill Walton Calvin Murphy. Nine hundred and ninety three. And I'll give you two better. Just because one person is in them Bill Russell when he also won so lame. I'm sorry Koran right. This is this is. This is a great class and I'll say this Kevin Garnett at Minnesota. Statistically he was wonderful. He didn't do that much. Winning in Boston puts him over the top and we both understand that but Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant. They had five championships. Five number. Where you get to say this. Hey shut up ga five that that's also correct disposal all these classes because it's the hall of fame. It's not just all star game. Install the finish the guys ever in these classes. You're right I looked at the classes. And it's just like Oh my goodness and this one is oh my goodness as well. We're GONNA move sure we're GONNA MOVE TO NASCAR. I thought we shed this last week. I tried to smack this down the I race. Where but will wallace gets into a little crash with? Clint Boyer. Then Wallace just quit the race while it was still in progress. They call this rage quit. Tony does bubba deserve heat for this in I race. Not a real race. Are you going to give him? He'd anyway so when I heard about this this morning. My reaction was good. This isn't a real race. You get hit in a real race. You hit the other guy in a real race and if you walk away could you think it's junk and here is an actual quote here and I love this quote. That's why don't take this bleep. Seriously Pena soft too. So why for what I? That was a great move but then then Wilburn I find out he was sponsored. People put money up for him to do this thing on television. He agreed to do it on television. And once there's money involved and you say I'm GonNa do it then. I don't think you can walk Tony. I walked down that same road as you did it. I'm reading I'm reading reading because I'M NOT GONNA lie about this. I'm not watching this stuff. Okay it's not four wheels on the ground. I'm not watching it but I know we're going to talk about. I know other people like it. They're finding entertaining particularly in the circumstances in which we now live and I was like good. I kinda liked it that he had this sort of. I rage if it's I raised as I rage but then tone if you've got a sponsor you've got responsibility to that sponsor and so no. You can't just quit and just turn you can't and so no I'm going to. I think he deserves some heat for this. Don't you so I should point this out? The sponsor is blue and blue EMU said and this is a great quality. Another email I bought by by bubba. We're sitting drivers not quitters. I should point out that blue. Emu is a topical thing. You know to take away pain. It is not the Li Mu Imo from chamber him. Oh no no. No the Lima. 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Julie irks urges a midfielder on the United States women's national soccer team that won World Cups in two thousand fifteen and two thousand nineteen in fact earn some never lost a World Cup matches played in. Although she's not nearly as celebrated to say Nagin Pino where Alex Morgan was named. Us Soccer Female Player of the year in two thousand seventeen in two thousand nineteen in two thousand eighteen. She was awarded. The Golden Ball is the best player in the CONCACAF Women's championship. She's married to Philadelphia Eagles. Pro Bowl tight end. Zach herd's will von. Which do you think is a bigger deal? New York's household the two world cups the Julie One or the Super Bowl exact one tony. I don't know what their household is like what I know that the World Cup is bigger than the Super Bowl. So two World Cups is like three or four super bowls. I'm sorry I mean I'm going with Julia Roberts on this I don't know about you. Happy Anniversary due on what should be the night of the National Championship game? We look back to twenty eight years ago and Duping Michigan for the title. Duke won back to back championships having beaten Kansas the year before the top players for Duke for all Americans Kristen Leitner Bobby Hurley and grant hill but the Michigan team. That lost was equally famous. Maybe even more so they were the Fab five starting team of five freshmen limb by Chris. Webber Juwan Howard and Jalen rose long before Kentucky started having five fresh almost annually Michigan. Did it here? A little known fact about that Michigan team was that Rob Pelinka now. The general manager of the Lakers was an upper class. Non and he got some time. That was the second of five national championships tone. The kids on that floor. They're still with us. You Got Presidents of teams guys on Network Television Calling Games and multiple guys in the hall of fame. I mean you can't get them. By the way Tony Tonight would be the national championship for men's basketball division a melancholy trails. Tom Dempsey in one thousand. Nine Hundred Seventy Dempsey kicked a sixty three yard field goal to lift the saints to one thousand nine hundred seventeen victory over the Detroit. Lions in the final seconds. That was then the longest field goal in. Nfl history. A record that stood by itself for Twenty eight years what made it even more extraordinary with. Dempsey had been born without toes on his kicking foot and had to wear a special shoe. Dempsey is a member of the Saints Hall of fame and played for four other teams in his ten year. Career died at age. Seventy three little more than a week. After being diagnosed with the Corona Virus Dempsey's kicking shoe is on display at the football hall of fame in Canton. Tony for so many years. All the New Orleans Saints Franchise had was Archie Manning and Dempsey's kick I mean that's what they have and thankfully now so many more years later. Yes the record is not his anymore by the saints. Have so much more to celebrate celebrate. Tom Dempsey as they can't sadly we have another melancholy trails. Bobby Mitchell a member of the football hall of fame in the first black player on the Washington redskins died yesterday at eighty four. Mitchell was a great running back with the Cleveland browns where he played alongside Jim Brown with the Redskins Mitchell played flanker and though he is remembered for being a racial pioneer he always felt that aspect of his career tended to overshadow what a great player was at the time of his retirement. Bobby Mitchell ranked third in NFL history and purpose yards and fifth and touchdowns. Mike I know you knew him very very well. Tony did I covering the redskins. I knew him a little bit because he was assistant. G MUSIC CLUB EXECUTIVE. He should have been at some point the GM of that team and then tone. I wound marrying someone who refers to him often as uncle. Bobby because Bobby Mitchell was that close with my father-in-law and I will join them. Sometimes on Golf Trips Bobby Mitchell and my father in law and it was amazing to get to know him. You hear the stories. Tony and one of the stories. I know from him and Mo Siegel who we both know very well. The Great Most Seagal sports columnist for the Washington Star is that the night before Mitchell's first game. They were in a restaurant maybe zebras in downtown Washington and this was before his first game is a risk and the risk is never had a black player at that point and a guy comes over introduces himself and says are you Bobby Mitchell. The new redskin and bobby steak sauce puts his hand out and he and Moe Segal stand up to say hello and the Guy Spits on. Bobby's shoe says we don't want you here Bobby Mitchell the next day and I know this out of his mouth and from most seagal Bobby Mitchell thought he went out there he performed and he had just an unbelievable game but tony part of him. Always wonder I'm doing this. I'm giving this all. I've got two people. A large percentage of who don't even want me here and you know who wanted them. Robert F Kennedy. 'cause Bobby Kennedy told George Preston Marshall. The owner at the time of the redskins. We're not GONNA have a lily white team. We don't care that you don't want Black Player. You're going to have one or your team could play into parking lot. Because this is a tax funded stadium. Is You know having lived in DC. For as long as you did. And Bobby Kennedy and Bobby. Mitchell became fast and profound friends over the rest of their respective lives. Geico gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that. Geico is always there for you. 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Must win situation but had they lost obviously Portland one game one had they lost they would be in trouble from the standpoint that there would be down. Oh to and would have to win four out of five to basically. You know move onto the next round, but they got it done. They came out jumped on. PORTLAND. Let them know it wasn't going to be there night and even before Damian Lillard went out with that index finger injury. The Lakers already had a thirty point lead Lebron play great didn't shoot well, Anthony Davis was big for them wh what was your takeaway because some people are looking at it as maybe the Lakers righted the ship Kazan played poorly in the bubble for the most part during those nine games eight regular season and the first playoff game but fred today, right? The ship where you on that your panic meter or you with the Lakers now or or still not sure rob let me give you this right off the bat a some people say it's a must win. It's not last night was huge. It was a giant win for the Lakers they had to win that game they look terrible in the bottle and If you follow the team. You realize that they struggled they played no perimeter defense. They couldn't hit the three and the keen with the Lakers nationally as you watch them, you have Adm Lebron James Somebody else needs to show up and it was as if nobody else was getting on the bus to go to the bubble, they stayed back in quarantine in. The hotel so you'd have Lebron playing. Well, you'd have a d. playing well, and then it was a crap shoot whoever was available that actually showed up to play might play well. So we created a panic meter for the Lakers read with severe panic orange was moderate panic and green was all good i. put the Lakers before the game last night in orange. Trending toward read now, I have moved them still an orange trending toward yellow last night was big. Anthony Davis had to assert himself in a D who had been in the witness protection program for years in New Orleans never has been on the giant stage. He's a, he's a great player, but never played on the giant stage. This is the biggest stage under the brightest lights for him in his career, and let's be honest in the fourth quarter he's been vacant. Shown up how surprising is that to you fred for guy of that talent you know what I mean to. Really he's bigger than everybody he got shoot he can do everything and yet we've seen him time and time again. Delivered two points or no points or you know it's pretty amazing. Well, it's simple. FOURTH QUARTER THEY'RE GONNA double him. They're going to throw bodies at him and the pressure is greater. Pressure is never face before also I think there was a learning curve to adjusting to playing with Lebron James. And it's not gonNA happen overnight remember the season was basically postponed. Then they had eight games to fire it back up and the playoffs people are a lot tighter on defense. So Anthony Davis has struggled in the fourth quarter Lebron James Played Well Anthony Davis has struggled and the Lakers need more than guys to be last night Anthony Davis came out, and that's why this was so important and basically put it on Portland the Lakers succeed because of their lane. There probably, the tallest team in the league. In critical positions, they succeed because of their length and physically punished the blazers. Now that doesn't mean they're out of the woods because they're not. Damian Lillard injury that's a problem. And it's his left hand, not his shooting hand and it's a dislocated finger line pop back in. But we don't know how effective he's going to be. Well, we did get word that he will play game three and you're right fred. If it was on a shooting hand that would be totally different and could wrap that bad boy up and you know he can still. because x rays were negative he could still get there. But if that game three, obviously a huge game and if he's not as effective or you know looks like he's injured or whatever, or just can't get it together. They might fold up two tenths. Of the Blazers realize we can't win without God whether they can't win without him. I mean if he couldn't go or is not as effective at another problem Portland had last night rob. You live by the three out of three, and it was a death for them by the three last night because they weren't falling. So of Damian Lillard can't go or is not as effective they should just save the per diem just go to the airport, get on the plane and fly back to Portland. There's no reason to pay for the rooms and there's no reason to pay the per diem for guys to eat because if he's not. Really, effective, it's over for them anyway I. Now this was what was interesting to after the game we have Lebron James Talking about the importance of ad and he's dropped this nugget on us of has not made in my career. Eighty is one of those UNICORNS. And he does things that some other great teammates are not capable of doing. The same sense. Play would do anyway and he could do some things that you know eighty not capable of doing and also play with. Kyrie Irving. He can do some things that delayed and eighty is not capable. So I've had the luxury of playing some great players and as does his three. So first of all, he called him a Unicorn Idi me Nebraska or what was that Fred? Live. Each Unicorn Unit Brown. Thanks guy we I, mean Unicorn? Okay. I got an issue with this I. Think it's premature. And when you talk about the great you the best play or the greatest play you play with. And you played with guys who helped you win championships. I think I, understand how talented ideas? So I'm not trying to poo poo talent for it. I'm not he's a talented guy. But really liked Dwayne Wade not only did he win a couple of championships with you down in Miami? He also WanNa Championship before you got to Miami. Anthony Davis hadn't done anything to get to second round one time in. New Orleans. KYRA was a part. Of A team that for the first time in NBA history. Fred. Came back from a three to one deficit who made the biggest shot and one of the biggest shots an NBA. Playoff history. It was career right point win the game. Yes and go back and look everybody raves about the Warriors Kyw we average twenty eight points against the warriors in the finals he won just on the bus he was driving the bus help drive in the bus where Lebron. So I think this is premature. Speak by Brahm. I think in that because if Anthony Davis comes up small. In these posts see in the play offs at some point gives you a goose egg in the fourth quarter gives you two points disappears or whatever and they lose. His minions of call Lebron, of course, go still and they'll call A. D.. The scapegoat. So I don't know how you can already say the great o