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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"But And you know, the other thing chuck brought up in the first segment of the show. And if you missed that conversation, go back to the podcast after I finish up here this morning. Horse racing radio dot net, you can listen there. The other thing you brought up is when trainers, a smart guy, like a Bobby Franco, for example, started to kind of make it a tail wagging the dog situation here. When they went to racing secretaries and said, okay, I have all these good horses. I'm not running in this race. If you put this kind of weight on my horse or if I have to give up that much weight to the other horses in there. And things started to change. Wood trainers like Bobby frankel. All of a sudden it was the horseman calling the shots. And saying, hey, we're not going to, you want our horse in this big race. You want to draw the crowns. You want the big name there. Don't put that much weight on my horse. And all of a sudden things started changing. And I think that's a legitimate point that chuck brought up. Anyways, continue to weigh in on that poll question. I think there's some going to be some more interesting takes. I'll try to get to them throughout the remainder of the show, sport of thoroughbred racing better when handicap races were a part of it. Keep them coming, I'll try to pass along the rest of those results later in the show. But coming up next, it is Kentucky, state senator Damon thayer, lots of things to discuss with Damon a couple, maybe controversial topics here coming up. So stay with me. That's coming up next here. The equine form on this Saturday morning. It's all presented by twin spires right here on H RN. It's the twin spires where
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Between prince Khalid and Bobby frankel begin? Do you know how that all got started? What I know he was looking for another trainer in California and basically again looking for the very best and that was the time when people started looking at statistics for the first time and they ran all of the statistics on the trainers that were out there and bobbies were rise up at the very, very top. So they decided to give him a shot and at the time there were rod mcnally was out there I think Austin had just gone back to England and the. Best horses probably I think in the first couple of years might have been with other trainers and Bobby detrimentally well with export in the very first year and once that once he proved us, then gradually he started getting better and better horses and started doing better and better as the time went on. So that's pretty much how it evolved. And things have continued. That prince Khalid philosophy a judgment has continued since his passing in January of last year. What's been the key Garrett to keeping things consistent in keeping things rolling in that same direction? I think the enthusiasm of his sons and from the moment of his passing once they got involved, it was very made very clear to us by them that we want to continue the legacy and we want to do it exactly as our father did it and they were engaged and they were had the same conviction that he always had and hopefully we'll continue on the same vein of success because of that. You know, it's interesting. By the way, visiting with Garrett o'rourke, who is the manager of Judd mount farms. As I was thinking back on some of the Judd mount runners that I'm always going to remember and I started looking at champs elysees, certainly being one of those, you think about all the great grass horses that Judd has campaigned over the years, but my goodness, when you start thinking about the dirt runners, horses like arrogate and tacitus, close hatches, sightseek, empire maker, aptitude. The list goes on and on. There have been some tremendous tremendous dirt runners. There have been and I think something that people forget is when prince carlot started to develop his broodmare band, he came to the U.S. and bought some absolutely elite brood mirrors now a lot of those were brought back and read to at least European runners and developed families that could run very effectively on turf. But as we allowed the ruder principal to load the broodmare band over here to evolve into a certain portion of it to evolve into producing exclusively dark runners by breeding back to the mister prospector as the Seattle sloughs, the AP Indies and all that and then up to the modern day as well with the top stallions now. A lot of those families really were only gone away from dirt producing dark runners for a generation or two and it was pretty easy to bring some of them back. And I think that's where we are now. And in order to expand this a little bit more, we've been allowed to purchase some mayors like Paula silver lining and we're going to in order to try and bolster the Dirk broom airband over here as well and make sure that every year we can be producing a high percentage of horses that can compete in the dirt races. And obviously. Some of the best races in the world now are Dubai World Cup Saudi cup and they're on Dirk and they were racist that weren't even in existence 30, 40 years ago. So goals can change a little bit and we tailor the new plans to try and achieve those goals. I would never ask you to rank your top Judd mount runners. It's like picking your favorite child, right? You can't do that. How about some of your favorite memories or performances that you've had the opportunity to witness working with Judd and seeing some of those horses do their thing on the racetrack? Since we're looking back on those three wins in the Hollywood turf cup, some of the other moments that stand out to you personally, Garrett. I'll go there a lot of the Mike, I suppose there were horses that were some of my favorites. I mean, empire maker was a huge favorite of why not just for his ability. But from the day he was born, maybe from the day we even planned his amazing I almost thought it was while this could grow into something nice and then he arrived on the ground with a beautiful appearance exactly as he would have drawn it up and he was just a beauty all the way through and how lovely personality just a real character loved being around people and so we had a very high opinion of him here on the farm and Bobby knew that and then we got him all the way through to get to the Derby that was probably the biggest disappointment I would say on Derby day of all of the horses and I knew it as well from Bobby's point of view because Bobby taught the race was in the bag already before and but so I would say then when he won the Belmont, yes that's a very, very strong memory because that was the real arrival of what we felt was a horse that was destined to be a really top class source and obviously went on to be a top class stallion afterwards. One of his obviously sister on this lady was one of my all time favorite mares. As well. As was flute, he was also by. Seattle slew and they were both magnificent personalities very intelligent sweet marriage to be around. They were nearly like dogs. They were so intelligent. And obviously flew within the Kentucky oaks was a huge moment with all of the farm. And attendance and we just had a classic on our doorstep was a very proud moment. I think Ventura within the breeders cup. It was a very exciting win. And I think arrogance within the breeders cup was all of the hype of California chrome and California chrome running his absolute best race. I think it was his best buyer and drag is in figure ever and he absolutely brought his a game and
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"That saved for maybe The Kentucky Derby that's even in the same breath as what we've seen from flight line. Where do you stand on this Vance? I mean, just from the, you know, in the time we're not going back to war admiral in round table and depending on how old four go winning horse of the year 5 years in a row or whatever it was, something like that in your racing lifetime. Have you seen a horse that's better than flight line? And if so, who is it? Well, my time observing the sport goes back to the mid and late 1980s. And so three horses that come to mind, I think, that were probably not only more accomplished, but just as fast as flight line, I would throw out Ali sheba at his peak, and then I would throw out Sunday silence and easy goer. Tom that I think the comparison with flight line probably should only go back to the late 2000, maybe the late 1990s. We are in a different era of campaigning horses, their campaign much more judiciously, I would say, almost European like where it's kind of stealth targeting horses of flight lines caliber, you know, they're only going to run about a handful of times every year. And if we go back to 2000, I would say, yes, flight line is probably the fastest or one of the perhaps one of the most natural talents that we've seen in the last 20, 25 years. And I think the horse said a lot of people have been comparing him to over that span is ghost zapper whose campaign just as sparingly by trainer Bobby frankel had a wonderful but brief 2004 horse of the year campaign. He threw up big speed figures, set a stakes record in the breeders cup classic against one of the deepest classic fields that anybody can remember and then closed out his career with an unbelievable performance in the Met mile. So, you know, going back to 2000 late 1990s, I would put flight line right up there with go snap. Yeah, go sapper retired 9 wins from 11 starts over $3.4 million in his career. His only defeats in allowance race the second race of his life and the grade one king's bishop the first time that he tried graded stakes competition. But after that, nothing but good stuff and obviously really fast races as you mentioned in the breeders cup and the Met mile. Let's go back out to the phone's Paul in Connecticut. You've got Bobby and Vance on the brisket dot com call in show. Vince took away a little of my thunder, but I go back to the late 80s and mid 80s, I would say. And he did mention Ali shiba and it might be the 5 pimlico special or I forget the year I was there. I think it was 87. But it doesn't matter. It was like a 5 horse field that twice in a few other great horses. And I'm going to make a point that I'm flight lines of brilliantly fast horse. Okay. But what drives me nuts is how big was that field 6? I think these horses like Ali sheba were warriors. They had a lot thrown at them and they still survived and were quite impressive. And I wasn't into it with secretariat, but as Vance, I believe said it's a different era. They're a little softer. They're well placed and I think it's not an equal comparison. So then you read these history books, the top hundred greatest of all time and all that. And when I was volunteering at the racing museum, I've mentioned this before and was sitting with a fella who's a reputable guy. And I go, who's the greatest ever. And the person said, oh, it was no question. It was that Philly. No, I forget her name. This proves I'm getting old. You know who it is. Who broke her leg? Ralphie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought because you saw her. Okay. So you guys bring up baseball and I'll kind of wrap this up. Sports radio guys often go, oh, this player is great. But they don't have they have data, but they haven't visually seen it. Now, I've gone back and watched numerous times. The doctor patch is defeat of Seattle slew at the metal end. I go back and watch all these races and get chills sometimes like with the secretariat thing. So between you two guys, if you look at it all, the data coupled with replay access. This horse hasn't run enough times and didn't beat not enough by challengers to rank him even close to Ali sheba. Borderline goes after. I hope he does shatter the track record in the breeders cup though. It would be great. Okay, that's my thought. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the Paul call and the call Paul I apologize for that. So before we go to breakfast, so I agree with what he says. And there's different ways when I say, is he is he the best horse you've ever seen? And people have different qualifications. So Ali sheba was more of a war horse, like Paul was mentioning there. You know, he kind of danced every dance and he really wasn't that good at the beginning of his career. He had a lot of in the money finishes and not a lot of wins and then he turned out to be a win machine, obviously grinding it out against some of the better horses. But everyone's going to have an era that
The Final Furlong Podcast
"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Chad Brown. At the moment who's being in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. So I think broom sorry. It was just going to say for those who are going, what are these two boys talking about? What are they banging on though? What's all this innuendo about Chad Brown? Chad Brown, how do we put this? Delicately. Was involved in an entanglement. Which then led to another entanglement of a not so nice nature. So he was having an entanglement with a lady. Another lady turns up at his house. And has a key for this house. And finds him engaged in the entanglement. To which he then entangles her by allegedly choking her and allegedly throwing her down the stairs, both of which he's been charged for. And the pictures were a sorry sight. Now I've got, if he did this, I have no bloody time for him. Because the last thing that I would ever have any respect for is beating a woman. Innocent and proven guilty and all of that stuff. But it's worth pointing out as well. If you're being pleaded not guilty. He has pleaded not guilty, yes. And that you're a 100% right to bring that up. It should also be mentioned, Chad Brown has a wife. His wife is not either of the women we're talking about. So he says that she broke into his house. And he was defending himself. Which is odd because he didn't ring the police. To say somebody just broke into my home. But she did. She ranked the cops. And they came arrested him in charge. So a leading owner has a leading owner who's got horses, mister Brown, who's got horses in training in Ireland. And in the United Kingdom in France, he's come out and said, I spoke with Chad. He says he didn't do it. He said he was defending himself. I believe him. I would. I would shut up if I was him. If you've got all that money, I wouldn't be going out there potentially giving someone a defamation lawsuit. It's a mess. And American racing has been rocked by it and shocked by it. If he did do this and it looks very, very bad. Again, instantly proven guilty in east said, not guilty. Then, you know, let's see what the American justice system has to say about it. But if he did do it, fuck this guy. We've got a saying in Yorkshire. The saying is it all come out in wash. We have that saying in Ireland as well. And it will hit a 100% well. You were saying to me beforehand, how will he be handled in America if he is if he is found guilty of this? And my initial thing was the Americans love a good comeback story, but not for a domestic abuse. No way. If he, if he did this, if he's found guilty of it, came over. Do not ask me if he is tried and found guilty. It's going to be very, very difficult. To hang on to his business and all these major owners. When if I've seen Chad Brown interviewed, he always seems like a really good guy. He looks like one of the good guys he learned from one of the very best in America. He's a system. Train as a Bobby frankel. And what he's done with his turf horses in America has been nothing short of astonishing. And hand on her, I hope he's not guilty, but if he is, you just can not see anyway, but for him. No. If you've got very powerful owners, they'll back you now where nothing's been decided and nothing's come out. But if that gavel comes down with a guilty. And the battle is as soon as the gavel knocks. Those horses are already being moved. So we'll have to see. And he is a genius of the turf. There's no question about that. What he's done in turf racing in America. He's an incredibly talented trainer. Bobby frankel, one of the greatest trainers of all time. But you couldn't have
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"You know, not always. And he may not be who knows what he's going to be. I mean, I think this race is going to be interesting because the Japanese horse has a lot of followers, and he may take a lot of money which may skew the bedding. The Japanese bet a lot of money and then, you know, Americans now think Japanese horses are the bomb, right? They win everything all over the world. So that horse could really skew the betting anything. We'll see what happens. You know, I think kind of tying in with Chris mccarran said to zanden, the break is going to be big for this horse because he's had a little bit of an issue in a couple of his starts leaving the starting gate either hitting the gate or just being a beat slow. And he's got more speed than people think. He's not a horse that needs to come from 17th and a 20 horse field. He's just kind of put himself in a bad spot in a few races, but he was fast enough to win a sprint race in his career debut, and even last time out winning the bluegrass, people say, oh, it came from so far back. He was 5 lengths back. He just happened to be behind everybody else and having to weave his way through and I'm sure flabby and Pratt and Chad Brown don't want that, but if this horse can somehow break evenly with the field, I could see him being mid pack not in the last three or four horses and boy, that's a big deal. If you only have to pass 9 or ten other horses as opposed to 16 or 17 runners. Well, you know, it's interesting too. Chad worked for Bobby frankel for many years. And he always credits Bobby with teaching him the ropes of training horses and whatever. And Bobby used to fall in love with jockeys and have a rider. Remember one time he had Fernando toro writing everything and he said to me, you know, if I knew about this guy earlier, I might have never lost a race. Well, he was in love with three electoral for about three weeks and then moved on to somebody else. But do you think that the fact that flavian is writing so many horses for Chad has to do with this horse that he picked like handpicked him? All he's in. He's ridden Chad's horses for a few years now. Yeah, but I mean he's just such a good writer. I mean, he's Chad knows he wants him. He's like spinning irad for flavian Pratt, which is kind of interesting. Flavian's a really good writer. Oh, I understand. I made a lot of money with flavian Bret. And Xander may not win the bluegrass without flavian Pratt in the irons that day too. That was fantastic. All right, when we come back, you're going to hear from James Scully, who was with bris and with twin spires, you catch him every Thursday with us on the network on our bris net dot com Collins show. Dwayne Lucas coming up at 9 O 5 and then toward the end of the program at 9 25, you'll hear from trainer Brad Cox. So plenty still to come. This is the Derby countdown on the horse racing radio network presented by hillendale at a lapa. There's.
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Tell him I was wrong, you know, but it works good. You hold the Trump card, though, don't you? Because you told me your dad's never trained a Triple Crown. And he's constantly reminded of that, I'm sure. Correct. I always tell him it's a black and white. It's a random brother's on my name. But it's all found the assault together. All considered one. Are you tired? Are you talking to me? Yeah. Well, I've worked with my brother. He was my assistant at one time, and now he's a fantastic bloodstock agent. But a couple of the biggest fights we've ever had have been over horses or jockeys or in my other brother Mark, he was an owner and we used to get in fights over where to run the horses and he always would come up with some crazy spots and I'd want to run them cheap so I could win. He always wanted to run long on the turf so I know what it's like to be with family and especially like I respect both my brothers, bob and Mark, they know about racing and I know they're not idiots, but when you train horses and your names on the program, you're the one that's responsible and you try to do the best thing that you know how to do too, so it's an interesting dynamic, but at the end of the day we still get along. What? What do you want me to say? I don't know. You're talking about are you talking about? Who do you want me to go with that? Talking about your brother, bob. Safi, what are some of the things that your dad has taught you over the years that you're still using here when you train horses? Well, he's always taught me his approach was always take care of the horse. A happy horse and a song horse is going to run for you. And I mean, I mean, he always says less is better than more. You could over a train a horse, but it's always always air on the side of caution because when a horse is overtrained and overboard, they're not going to run. They're tired, they just need to break. So it's always about train less. Keep them happy. That's what you've always said, JT. Yeah, I have a tendency to lean toward less Bobby frankel was a big influence in my life. And he used to pony horses a lot and jog and they weren't out there galpin two miles every day, like some people do. And a little easier with the workouts, nice start and a big finish kind of a thing. So I think that's probably best and of course the happy horse thing. There's nothing that beats having a happy horse and a lot of times people say, how do you know they're happy? And when you're around horses all the time, you can just tell. How do you know? That they're happy. They just show you how to eat in a harder doing and their attitude. You'll have a horse, you'll have an ache and pains, and he'll be happy and he'll give you his all. And when you have a sour horse, they can have no aching pain and you're not going to run no matter what a sour horse is sour horse. Like a sour human. What makes a horse sour? Just sometimes they get overtrained or just too much, you know, you put too much towards them and they become and they started resent it and I saw a horse is not a horse. Can you bring a sour horse back the other way though and get them back to being happy or once they go sour? You could get them happy. Most of the time I find one hour ago, sorry, you need to turn them out in a paddock, and that'll just be a horse for a couple months. And they come back, eventually. They come back. But if you keep going on with them, they just keep running worse and worse, they'll train good. Until a run by, I don't know why, but that's what normally seems to happen. I know you said you weren't around your grandfather a whole lot, but do you see any similarities or did you get a chance to go back and study your grandfather's style as opposed to your dad style? And now the way you train horses too, where they all kind of the same. Well, my grandfather didn't really train. He owned more. He owned more majority. But my dad basically my styles, he's a big influence on his style of training on my style. What's the big difference between training in Barbados and training here? I know that in Barbados said there's a little bit different style that you have training as opposed to when you come to the United States. Well, Barbara, that's the training track over there is sand and it's not very good. You have to the forest, we have a breeze of horse and barret believe it or not, it's three apes. Over here, Bill breeze mainly housed and sometimes even 5 ace. But Barbara is because of the track. Not being the best training service. You've got to just easy three as easy threads. Yeah, 'cause it's inside that 6 for a long grass course. So it's a very small track. And the horses are running on the turf, but they're training on the dirt. So it's a little bit different dire sand. It's a little bit different. And there's so much Benz there. They're always turning. So I think it puts a lot more pressure on them. Funny enough, and Barbados, you'll see horses get a lot of tendon injuries. And over here, not wood. That's something you don't really see over here with horse skin and a lot of tendons where you see other engine that more bone injuries over her. How difficult was it when you first came here and started training? I guess it was what mid 2011. Yeah. In 2011, came to the United States was a difficult to adjust to the style of training here after doing it the other way for so long of Barbados. We basically kept the same style, the only thing. You probably got to train a little harder to run on the dirt. But when we came over here, funny enough, we were like, how are we going to win in a dirt? We don't know if we're going to win on it. And we're like, we're going to stick to the turf. And then our first horse that won artifact though, the race was a turf race and it rained off. And he won in the dirt, and then the second race was a turf race and it rained off, and his third race was a terrorist, and I ran off again. So you became a dirt star. And the funny thing is, our dirt starts over here, are really good. On our turf stats are horrible. I don't know why. I don't know if we just don't have turf horses, but it's weird. And I was our biggest worry coming over here that would be able to win on the completely opposite. Dirt is your thing. Well, the horses that you bring over here from Barbados. You don't do that very often, but you do shuttle some back and forth once in a while. No, we don't need a couple first couple of horses when we came up very artifact. We bought them and it would be awesome and we turned into Barbados and then we were coming up, we decided to bring them back up. So when you go to a horse sale, are you typically looking at two year olds, you're looking at year links, what do you prefer? We tend to buy more tour rolls, more in two years sales. We just looked at, obviously, we are not buying a high end or a buying horses between from the 20 to 60, $70,000 range. So mid to lower range. And we just try to find horses that are athletes that can run a bit, obviously. We want runners. So for us, it looks like a athlete. It doesn't have to have the best pedigree will take a shot and it's funny. You're not the first trainer to tell us that either. And Jude's brother, bob, who you mentioned earlier, tremendous bloodstock agent, and he's told us multiple times that it's not so much about the pedigree. It's about the athletic ability of that horse. It sounds like you kind of fall into that same philosophy. I think that's most important. I mean, obviously, sometimes everyone wants to be good pedigree. But you have to pay millions for those that are going to run. And if you check a majority of them, they're not that good. Yeah. Well, my brothers bought four or 5. I think 5 readers Cup winners. But he doesn't really pay much attention to the page, and sometimes we joke about it because sometimes he'll buy a horse that's by a stallion that people don't like or whatever. We laugh about golden missile was one that mister stronic owned golden missile. And he was a good horse, but he was not a very good sir, but my brother bought one and somebody asked me to sell you buy and he said, oh, I bought this horse by golden missile and they go, oh, golden missile. And so that's like our big thing. He'll tell me who he buys and it'll be some weird stallion..
The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Seems like the maiden turf ranks going along at tamper pretty much equal to what they have here at Gulfstream. Yeah, it's funny. Graham motions had a feud. He's had a little bit of a slow year up here and I always think that because so many of his horses are made in special weight turf types and they just keep running in a bus size that are just tough to beat. And came back, like I said, real tough. Graham was there a tampon Davis day and he barely got beat by Chad Brown. And one of those, I think it was a maiden turf phrase. How are you going to shake Chan? He goes, they ought to make a law against him running over here. So he's going to talk to he said he was going to talk to Margot or Alison or Peter booby or somebody about it. No, he was. Yeah, chit chat, not welcome west of the okeechobee. Stay in your lane, man. I'm excited to hear the thing about charging because I was kind of wondering because it was almost, you know, based on the problems, it was kind of shaping up as though classic causeway was going to be a pretty low price favorite because he was obviously very dominant in the same F Davis and it just didn't seem like a lot of the big names were planning on coming. I think charging adds a really interesting wrinkle to this race. Yeah, I guess he'd be second choice. By the way, Jay prim was going to be doing a real nice feature on him Wednesday for the Friday editions and forms. So be on the lookout for that, but I don't know much about his trainer Eddie Barker. I know he hasn't started many their campus, so maybe he just sent that horse and a couple more down there. I don't really know the story on it, but I'll be interested to read what Jay has to say about Eddie Barker. Brian lynch is a trainer. I don't know a ton about, obviously, you hear his name pop up. He's had some very good horses, but I was trying to think, is he really had a Derby trail type horse? It has not maybe something on the fringes that was eliminated kind of early, but Brian's a great guy. He worked from Australia originally. I think he's been in this country about 30 years. He worked for Frankfurt for Bobby frankel and certain period of time and somebody else I can't remember, but he's become a staple of my circuit down here. A Gulfstream and up in Kentucky at both Churchill and kalen and he's a fun loving guy and he says you haven't seen anything yet until you met the two owners of the course classic causeway. They're supposed to be there on Saturday. Yeah, I know. I saw one of them was interviewed the day he won, they were out at Santa need. I don't know if they're both based out west or not, but definitely had a character kind of feel. Just a unique personality, at least in the interview I saw, which I thought was great and they were like, I think he even said he said, I've never been back there. I'm excited to go. If we go, you know, originally Brian said they were gonna come right back and I know that, you know, a lot of times whenever a track publicity person I ask you, of course, oh yeah, of course we're thinking about coming back because, you know, he said at one point, you know, maybe the Florida Derby is the spot to go. And you know, I guess there's a little gamesmanship and that you can't just say, oh, we're going right here and then that's it. Well, classic causeway is such an interesting horse. You got the 90 buyer first time out at Saratoga, then beaten favorite although Iran respectively in both the Redis charity and the Kentucky jockey club any the way he won Sam Davis, Jason was just so impressive in that that looked like on paper there was a lot of speed in there. He made the lead turn them all back and still finished like we were talking about some of these other horses Emmanuel, he just finished full of run. So it's going to be interesting to see how he does. And also what Brian chooses to do after this because if he wins around second, it looks like he'll have enough point. Would he run back in the bluegrass because that's a one race he said would be the stepping stone because it's kind of an awkward 8 week period from the Tampa Bay Derby that Kentucky Derby. Yeah, three quarters of a $1 million doesn't hurt either. That's the funny thing about these plot in the trail. I know you don't want to think about money, but there's so much dough up for grabs, especially these last, you know, 5, 6, 7, 8 weeks that it's like, I mean, it's kind of hard to just train up when you maybe turn it away 500,000 for winter shares. Yeah, the thing we got ahead of us, all of us, everybody in this business though is the whole backward issue and if something comes down, the Monday or two, the Derby week, this will make for yet another hugely bizarre kind of Derby that we've already had three or four of them or. Yes, we had Darren Rogers on the show last week. About that in terms of weird derbies and they're always like, boy, you ate. Yeah, I've said it on a few shows before. I long for the days of spectacular bid and unbridled because those were the, you know, you weren't thinking about some of this crazy stuff that's happened last few years, especially The Rain and the DQs and everything else..
The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Years. And worked my way to Churchill. I mean, I've got a sister who always wondered what I did, but the minute you get the job at the home of The Kentucky Derby, they finally get it. When you can say you've done that, and that was in March of 2008. So I'm coming up on my 1530 this year. Yeah, it's funny. My first job in racing, which is kind of the turf writer for emerald downs. And I remember the guy that hired me specifically saying he goes, everybody we've interviewed, they either can write and don't know anything about racing or they know about racing and can't write. And so that was how I did it. It's a little bit of both. That's how I ended up because you work with them. You work with Vince maroon? No, so this was a little before. Well, I worked with Joey, but grant Clark was the guy who hired me and he was not really a racing guy. He actually, I think he now is in politics or something in that realm, but Vince was the guy after grant, 'cause I remember when they hired Vince because Vince was a southern cow guy, right? Yes, he was. We worked together in that publicity office. It was very interesting time the mid 90s out there in California because you had to get two different managements at San Anita and Hollywood park. Yet in a kind of a cost savings move, but also made perfectly good sense. You got a joint publicity department for both Santa Anita and Hollywood park and I always used to joke. It was like being a campaign manager for a Republican and a Democrat at the same time. They just didn't always see eye to eye. It was a little awkward at times, but for ten months of the year there was continuity and it was a great time for me. I mean, I grew up out there and just to be able to be around the sport and all these people that you absolutely idolized from, I mean, I just think about the jocks room at the time would be pin Kai, Gary Stevens, Eddie Delaney. Chris mccarran, Alex will lease. I mean, it was just it was such a fun, fun time and a great way to kind of cut your teeth, so to speak. And at high level too, I mean, that was the world to me. I remember being young in that job and for me, I've never been good about going up kind of cold to ask someone for a quote or for a press release story or any of that kind of stuff like that was always difficult for me. I remember asking Jose valdivia because he was at the long eager's mile and he was on the favorite and he got beat and I walked, I had to get a quote from him and as I walked in the room, he's like watching the replay and he's like this blank, like he's just cursing mad and so I was like, mister valdivia, can I get a quote? Completely switched it on to being like super professional, gave me a good answer. It was really respectful and stuff like that. Did you have any troubles with that early on? Especially just because like you said, these are all huge name writers like is it intimidating going into those guys and asking for quotes, especially after a loss? I'm going to tell you a story about the great late Bobby frankel. I mean, when you come into that publicity role, usually the low end of the total poll is you go down and you have to get the losers quotes. Like you said. The veterans got the winners, the new cubs got the losers. And you learned real quick. I mean, you want to be respectful. You know, they've gotten beat. And so this was back when the matriarch was before the breeders cup filling in merit turf. The matriarch during the Hollywood park turf festival would decide the Philly and merry grass champion every year. And I can't remember the Philly. It might have been cost trauma or some Judd Mont Philly that I'd go to Bobby frankel and he wouldn't give me diddly squat. Mister frankel, can you take me through the race and your eyes and what do you think he just light India and just after a tough beat? So finally, after getting my head kicked in, probably about 6 months. That grade one matriarch, nakatani was trying to go up the inside. If it was on the favorite, got shut off and I remember I was in the grandstand watching the race and frankel through his binoculars. Oh man. And I got to get a quote from this guy. And I said, you know what? I got to start thinking like these guys. And I don't know what hit me. And I just went up to him and I said, can you believe that bleeping ride? He pauses and he looks at me and he goes, I know. And then he goes on with a whole speech of a quote that I can give and so you just start every horseman has its own, their ticks and quirks. And it's tough to you always had to be respectful, let them watch the replay, the jockeys. Even going by the barn in the morning, you knew some guys just don't want to talk while they're training. You'd wait and they'd give you all the time in the world at ten O 5. You just have to learn how they work. I wanted to ask about lone star because I was thinking timeline wise, did you work for Steve Sexton there 'cause he's not a name that like he's a little before my time in terms of his career, so he was a name that used to pop up a lot what I would hear people talk about working for him because I knew if you guys had worked at lone star in those early years, was he someone that you worked for? Absolutely. I'd run through a brick wall for Steve Sexton. Worked with him here at Churchill too. Yes, Steve was a great man. In fact, the one two punch of Cory Johnson was the president. Steve Sexton was the general manager at the time. Jeff Greco was the assistant general manager and between those three. I mean, Corey was always a big kind of idea guy and Steve was the guy who figured out how to make it happen. Type thing. And they were a great one, two punch. Those times out there. I mean, I look back on that so fondly, in fact, to this day, I was there for the 2004 breeders cup. Well, the fact that lone star was ever ever able to land that. I still look back at it and go, I can't believe it. I mean, it was great. I mean, we had Willie Nelson playing at the press party at Billy bob's in Fort Worth, we did have unexpected Dallas does not have a reputation for humidity. Like other parts of the south. I mean, Houston, humid, Shreveport, Louisiana down is very humid. Dallas, not so much. And that one week that one week we had a unique front blowing through up from the gulf and it was just we had The Rain and all the temporary structures and I thought it was it was a great experience..
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"And I was going to bet on them and just try to have about 15 tickets. And of course, being a gambler at that time in your young Cavaliers had a horse in that I thought was an easy winner. His name was Carney's point. And I decided that some of my money on carnage points and my yeah, if I recall correctly, he got beat and I only ended up with three tickets on secretary, but that was all right three was enough. But it was a great experience. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. But just to be so close to him, didn't you even witness a young lady pulling a piece of hair out of secretariat? Well, that's a long time ago, but I do recall that. I was in the paddock. I was grilling a horse named fave count. It was one of I was very young. And so I was grooving this horse and I was working for Jerry Levine. He got a more experienced room to take the horse to the paddock. So I was walking around on the other side. And I remember turning and watching their secretary in front of me and they said he reaches up and just kind of turned one of his hair from his tail into her finger and just kind of give it a little Paul and he didn't even yeah, I didn't move an inch in L and of course she got something to remember for the rest of her life I guess. But I remember seeing that and it was quite I was impressed with how come he was in the paddock. He not much bothered him. Yeah, people will do just about anything for a souvenir like that, especially from a great horse, like secretariat visiting with trainer Dan vela here on trainer talk presented by facing tipton if you're just tuning in, Dan has been doing this since 1972, so a 50 year career and he has so many wonderful stories. Real quick before we move on, Dan, I want to pass this along a bit of housekeeping here for our listeners. This show, of course, presented by our friends at phasic tipton, facing tipping getting ready to host their winter mix sale in Lexington, Kentucky, which is supposed to start next Monday. We are under a ice storm advisory here in the bluegrass. So because of that phasic has decided to push the sale back one day. So the sale instead of being Monday and Tuesday next week, it will now be Wednesday Tuesday and Wednesday. February 8th and 9th to allow everybody to get in here safely and I think a wonderful move by facing tipton. Let's talk a little bit more about your relationship with Frank stronach in the horses that you had the chance to be around with him. What do you remember about the first time he met Frank and how that relationship came to be with you training for him? Well, I had I had it started a gentleman that worked for him. His name was Don Amos. And I had trained a little bit for I was just getting going and I had training to horse that dawn had sold at auction. And I got to know dawn, he would come by the barn. So yeah, I called him up one day, and I said, general Don, I'd love to get to meet Frank, strong. And I'd love to, you know, I mean, you got to be aggressive sometimes. You got to sell yourself. And Dons got me an interview with Frank and that's where it all started. We sat down and talked and we kind of hit it off right away. My father had been a machinist. He was there was a connection there. We talked a little bit about that. Frank was a machinist when he started out and yeah, next thing I know I had four horses in the barn and had some great success with a couple of them and it moved up from there. Which are some of the horses that you're never going to forget when you think back on your career, Dan, whether they were a dean of spring's horses or horses that were owned by other people that you were around, but some of the horses, when you say, boy, I've been doing this 50 years. I'm never going to forget this horse, or these horses. Yeah. One of my first jobs, I trained for Steve stab. He had affiliate names, agriculture. She was not a very big silly, not imposing. But might have been the fastest horse. I was ever around. We took her to I was training kind of in tandem with another trainer at the time, and for her staff role. And we took her to Europe and she got beat ahead and Frito obeyed a long shot. She was an absolute rocket. So I'll never forget her. You know, probably the best horse I was ever around. Well, not probably. He was ghost sapper was, you know, I mean, if you categorize horses allowance horses, their stay courses, there's grade one horses. There's classic horses. Then there's that category that's kind of mysterious almost. And I called them freaks. They're just rigs. They do things that your whole life, you watch horses and they can't do them. Secretary, it was that way. And I go shopper was much the same. I mean, you could watch him and some of his races and he would, you know, he'd run three quarters of a mile in sprint time. And then just keep on going. And horses shouldn't be able to do those things. And he could. I had the pleasure of breaking him as a baby and getting him ready. And send him out to Bobby frankel and it was kind of he was a bit of a lazy horse, so it took a while for him to really clue in, but of course, Bobby was one of the greatest of all times. And we would chat about him and stuff like that, very interesting, but if I'm not mistaken, first start of his life, I think he run one of the best buyers for a first time starter still ever. And ghost rapper was he was a top end horse that you only see a couple in your lifetime..
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Well, I'll just try to get my hopes to try to understand my horse, try to understand what he can and can not do. And from that point, just advise and you see what happened, but yeah, I feel like he's my old friend is a performance well then you know you get bit, but at least if you run in a performance you give him a chance. Which is quite hard, but that's what I feel. So I meant with me here on the horse recent radio network. Let's talk about the horses that you'll be very comfortable aboard coming into today's races at Santa Anita and let's just start with the three year old race. The grade three sham and we'll talk about Rockefeller who you'll get a leg up from Hall of Famer Bob Baffert two for three lifetime. The only time you were aboard him the American pharaoh was the only time he didn't win, and I don't point that out because you were aboard him. But he just didn't fire for you that day. What did you feel that day and what are you thinking coming into this year's race with the sham? Well, if I remember, well, it was the first time going long and we had to chase cronies. So which it was not an easy task. But I remember in the bethel was really high on him and was expecting a good run, which didn't happen, but he came back and won in New York. So it seems like he's a talented horse. So he should run a good race. I mean, I don't know exactly as another horse in that race. And there's also the house of Doug neon who has been a really good horse on the grass. Going to the deltoid there's some question mark as far as the film, but it seems like you should run a good race. Have you gone back and watched his win in the Nashua at Belmont last time out? Oh, yeah. I did when you wanted keyboards to repay. I thought it was a good run. Are there things that you try to pick out when you're watching a replay like that to help you when you ride him coming up later today? Yeah, I'm totally absolutely it seems like there's always going to be shortly because he won. So it is always some stuff that you want to pick up and see if you can do it in a race today. Yeah, we'll see if Rockefeller can find his way to the winner's circle. He is the morning line favorite. We'll see if he can pull it off. And no corniche in this field later today to flavian. Yeah, that'll be helpful. How good is that horse? I mean, obviously you competed against them that time. You know him too. How good is corniche? Well, it seems really good right now. I mean, it seems like it's the best of the generation right now, but. I can't read telling you much about him. But I know as much as you do, I didn't see him from behind a little bit. Yeah. Well, let's talk about some of the other horses that you'll be aboard. Several greatest stakes at Santa Anita the Joe Hernandez takes a grade two that's on the downhill turf. You'll get a leg up from Mark glat to board beer can man. What can you tell me about him? Really like the whole utterly run really good race at park really soft ground. He couldn't handle the ground and run a good second. Then came back at Denmark. He won the E one and it seems like he's in the right direction. The race is pretty open. I think there's a few horses that could win to be honest with you. We're not the only one. But with a good trip, I don't see why you couldn't win. You come back later in the day in the Bobby frankel stakes that's another great mistakes. Richard Baltus will give you the leg up aboard luck who you been aboard the past couple of times narrow defeats both times on luck. What's the key to getting over the top with him later today? Like a little bit disappointed last time it was a slow pace with spring home and couldn't get there. I think the cut back in distance is going to be helpful. And she's training really well. So expecting a good run from like I said, we only thought she was a good host and just last time there was no pace. She needs to be covered up. So I couldn't really do anything about it. But I think the distance going to be a game changer. Well, assuming that you've won with each of those first three horses, you're going to be looking for a fourth greatest stakes on the card with as time goes by another Bob Baffert runner. And this is a 5 year old mayor that you know well from riding her last time. He won the grade three by a koa aboard her at Los alamitos. Tell me a little bit about as time goes by. Well, as time goes by I'm pretty straightforward. How does she run a regulation last time? She brought inside and on a pretty, pretty fast pace. She took the lead and then she lost it about 8 of my and big demon and took the league better back. I thought it was a really good effort. And I really love the way she digged in. And get the win. So hopefully if she can repeat the ratio, she should be on it. Yeah, we'll see if we can win all four flavian Pratt here on the horse racing radio network flopping. It's always a delight to catch up with you in to spend some time and I know you're one of the hardest working guys out there. So keep up the great work and all the best for a successful and healthy 2022 and happy new year to you, my friend. Well, thank you, Mike. Thank you for having me and please everybody..
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"Don't ask me who's winning in baseball and who's winning in football because I couldn't tell you. But I find it to be a challenge we had a fairly recently love you. She ran, I thought she was a nice horse. She broke her maiden at Saratoga and we ran her in the goldenrod and she ran very poorly. She got beat 50 links and but in the meantime, I had got the greens to buy her mom or we bought her mom. I didn't get them to that was John John came up with that decision. So I said, well, we got to write this ship. And so we shipped her down to she's a Florida Brad. We shipped her down and she won the stake easily on Saturday at golf stream. So those are the things that I do and I get disappointed when we get beat, but as I tell my son who's a big baseball player, I said when we win, we win when we lose we learn. So I try to learn from something and build on it. And it's all I do. I may go to I may go to sleep early upset that we had a bad day, but I can promise you this when I wake up the next morning, I'm going to figure out how I'm going to fix it. That's all I do. One of the earmarks I think of Hall of Fame trainers and you're a double Hall of Fame trainer, which I love. Is single mindedness, right? The guys in the Hall of Fame, that's what they do. You do it. Richard Mandela does it. Bobby frankel did it. Charlie whittingham. Those guys always single minded horse racing. That's what they do. You know, I don't do anything else. I do play chess online on my phone. But the good news is I'll have to make one move every 5 days. So there's not a big rush. And speaking of a chest, it's funny, you know, credibility. Harry, I was playing Harry, chess, I didn't know anything about Harry. And we're playing and he texts me. He says, do you train horses? Or do you know Mark cassius? Well, yeah. Next thing I know he bought a horse send it to me and now we're in the breeders. It's a crazy world. Talking about Harry rosenblum who owns credibility, postposition number 12, one of the long shots in the juvenile turf this Friday goes as the tenth and final race on the card mentioned that you have three horses in the race, grafton street credibility and coinage. Here's something you don't normally see Jude. All of them in the breeders cup will be written by jockeys who have never ridden them in any of their previous starts. We're just trying to give everybody a chance. Makes a trainer look better when you have a jockey on there that nobody knows. Well, I think they're pretty capable of my gate. You've got Tyler gaffe Leon, who of course was the runaway winner at the keyman mead as far as top Jack Hall of Famer Mike Smith writes credibility and flora Giroux, who certainly one of the top writers of my first breeders cup on catch a glimpse. And one of the reasons why I kind of got him on coinage, I can see some similarities with catch a glimpse and coinage. I think flow will be a great fit. I mean, how can you get better than Mike Smith? And then I don't anybody that knows me knows how I feel about Tyler gasoline. So we won our first classic together. To talk about that for a minute, like your experience with one horse and how it leads you to make a decision about another horse. Like you did with everything we do. We go into our memory bank and look, I do it when I try to when I go around and watch big races. I try to look at all the horses see what they look like. So when I'm out there trying to find a yearling or the thing I do every evening at the end of every night, I go through and look at every major racetrack and I go over to the charts to see what's winning. What's winning on the grass? What's winning on the torpedo? What's winning in the slop? What combinations? So I do a lot of that as well. And so far it's worked okay. Yeah. Well, I always tell Mike Smith, nobody could have won the race in Dubai and irrigate except for Mike Smith because when that horse broke badly, Mike said the first thing that came to his mind is I'm just going to write him like zenyatta. And there's only one guy that could say that. Yeah, because there's only one guy that wrote and so you find that I think to through training through nothing is every smooth trip. And when you have things happen along the way, you reach back and you think, now how did I handle the situation in the past and you know, you draw from that? You have one horse running in the breeders cup events on Saturday and certainly a horse that's near and dear to your heart, the mayor got stormy, who would I know she's only a 6 year old. It seems like she's been in your barn for ten years. She's facing the boys in the breeders cup mile. It seems like she runs against the boys more often than she runs against the girls. Is that something where you know a head that they have a certain disposition that it will not affect them, the girls running against the guys? I actually think that's a little overdone to be honest with you. I think you just look at it and say, is she good enough? And she's proven that, you know, time after time, with her, it's more about the distance in the track and the turns. So I can't be too choosy. I know what she loves. And so when it presents itself, you got to go for it. You made no bones about it last time. She's won for one here at delmar and you said that you know she likes a firm turf course. And I think all along you were looking for was that the matriarch that she won a couple of years ago here she was, yes. And I think after she finished second to uni in the breeders cup mile in 2019, Mark came on record and basically said, you know, we're going to the matriarch because that's a firm turf course and the way that that is the kind of turf course she loves and she sometimes so if you want her to get a mile or more, it has to be firm and you need sharp turns for her. So she can handle a softer turf, but she can't go as far. And you know, there's not really a lot of mile races out there. Last year a lot of people were saying, well, you decided to make her sprinter. We simply made her Springer last year because we knew there was no way she could get a mile at keeneland in the fall because there was no way we were going to have a firm turf. A keen living in the fall. It's not going to happen. So this year was a different story. Every said, oh, well, you're going to keep her sprinting. No. Because I always have we have a long-term plan and so that changes things. By the way, I think they didn't have one day at keenland this fall where the turf course started off firm. It may have been firmed for one race at the very end of a car during the meat. So I've been in Kentucky for a little while so. You know, I'm not first took a pounding at Keenan. Getting in the problem is there's just not enough sun, not enough daylight to ever dry it up. So before we let you go, Mark. It was a pretty good story of how God stormy is still in your barn..
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"And then that that second. The major leaderboard the top leaders. It's static and then the there's a scroll to the right and it goes through all the leaderboard. I you know what i didn't notice if there was in fact a bar and that's a great question because the old style leaderboard used to have a a search bar c. You could put in yet. Well this is. This is interesting. So right now the dairies has reverted to the old fashioned The one you Are used to. But i'm sure that when we go live later you'll be able to. You see the same. The same thing you saw yesterday which was which was really good and really An easy way to to track everything all right. So there's there's just a little contest we got obviously. We got three days a contest conversation. That will keep us busy couple of other couple of other notes from yesterday particularly saratoga. It included Cleared a couple of prices right away there as well. In fact that eleven to one winner moallem the twirling candy. And how funny was that john. Nicholson i we had. It wasn't forty minutes later. After we talked about orazio depaz moallem comes rallying up the inside under jose ortiz At so that got the room right away first race of the day. Got the room. Good rockin With a twenty four dollar winter then game. A twenty dollar winner in that clear vision in the claiming Second this was The tony gut throw. That rallied up the inside. I think Chad had another three wins yesterday to go with the five with the five on wednesday. So he's I think it's fair to say overtaken and and and potentially pulling away from mike baker and todd There was that orchestration of his For steph garmon flatter colt bred by makmur hall. Who road very confidently and fletcher for the lows with keep calm. Carry on the two year old as well at three to Maker maker did jump back up and grab a win. While chad was rallying. I think chad might have thought that he was going to get even one with life on top and High tide came flying flying for maker and gaffney own and max's stable to snatch that one and Union maiden that. I brought up yesterday in that interesting. Allowance was a winter. Nice comeback race last seen november and chatted. Peter brant's rosca. Fara goes favored in the risk. Averse and then wins there and there was a funny was the funding nightcap winter. It's airtel yesterday when you look down the chart and you see that joel. Rosario wrote a winner for david in holly wilson on a horse for vladimir syringe. Where would you think you were. That's that totally california Of course the wilson's have been with the with surrend for years and years And i i texted ron anderson to ask i said you know i went looking at some wilson winners at del. Mar the last fifteen years. And i couldn't find joel. Had ever won for them at del mar. I thought that would be a cool parallel. But he he really didn't ride for serena west. Jose cuevas is handling the horses for syringe in new york. And of course Long associated with bobby frankel and so Ron rod said the rosario has been getting on horses for the syringe barn because of the tight relationship with jose so that explained it. But i just it was such a california Set of connections that made me smile. hope to make everybody smile as we get ready for the weekend and when you go play some bats and Dave greenwich is going to join us. I as we talked. Travers of course and everything that comes with it the showcase day today Which is a nice card and see if they've got any anything he wants to slip in about that James scully scully. Always comes for travers and he is in saratoga. So we'll get a set of opinions from james hammer is on his way getting on his way. Not sure if he's in the car yet six fifteen if he's on his way yet to kentucky downs but It'll be in the car soon enough so we'll check in with hammer and speaking of contests i know. He'll want to the the big kentucky downstairs championship that they're that they're doing again. This year the national turf handicapping champion Three contests so six days thirteen seats three. Bbc's and a hundred thousand added an additional twenty five thousand four the biggest combined six day bankroll so incentive to play in In all six cards and also thaw three desk jape ribbon at the top of our two. And i didn't have from ed but i imagined adult. Turn up you're going to. you're going to get. I think a pretty special pretty special travers preview at about eleven. Because i'm going to turn it over when nick tammaro comes down and Would nick turns up. Will we'll put him on with andy. Excuse me andy serving. Who's doing plenty of work You know he's a. He's isolated for a week on kobe protocol and but he said i said yesterday i said the the up for a for any gabbing he said. Do you want me to do the whole show. He's i think he's climbing the walls a little bit and i can understand it. So andy and nick tamra do like a stakes talking horses for you In the third hour and And we expect. Mike welsh as well so robust travers weekend preview. And it's not just drivers we wanna slip in you know many anything else that As we mentioned yesterday with that air exhibiting visit the charleston classic action tonight. They'll look forward to and We'll watch for that night. I've got the couple of pieces of a couple of pieces of news And.
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast
"The scene mai cong melody. Tom durkin with a call. That was the two thousand eleven running of the great one diana and zagora getting the victory under heavy air castellano. That day. You think okay. Great zagora wins. What does it mean. Well it was the first win in the race for trainer. Chad brown sense that day in two thousand eleven. Were sitting here. Ten years later chad. The all time leading trainer in the history of that the diana. Let's say that slow. The diana chad has won the race six times now more than any trainer in history that went in two thousand eleven with zagora. He had to wait four years. Five years to get another one came in two thousand sixteen with deceit. He has not lost sense. Yeah chad has won each of the last five runnings of the day diana who have a chance to do that Coming up again later this afternoon. At saratoga. And i'll talk to chad coming up in just a few minutes. We are attempting to get him on the line now. It is a busy morning for him. So we appreciate the visit chad. By the way fresh off of his sixth belmont training title won thirty two races captured his six consecutive trainer's title at belmont with the spring summer meet that opened on april. Twenty second concluded Last week and look i mean. We know chad brown multiple eclipse award winner. Fantastic trainer learned from one of the best of all time. bobby frankel. He took those lessons. He learned and he's doing things the right way now and we are trying to get a hold of. Let's see what just got a text from chad. Lee just got a text from chad brown saying that. He is tied up with an owner at the moment. Not going to be able to join us here this morning. So we certainly understand that He told me when. I asked them to join me on the program. He said well training hours can be tough. Let's shoot for ten forty. Should be free by then. Obviously not and When you have this type of operation. That chad brown. Has we certainly understand when these come up. He did say he'll have to reschedule. Which by the way. I was all set to make chad. Our industry star of the week presented by stuart morris. So there you go chad. Take that now. We'll still make him the industry star of the week. How about that. After winning six consecutive training titles bow. Park chad brown. Your industry star of the week and stuart morris as so many of you know offers a boutique full-service bloodstock operation and he wants to thank his owners his clients and his team. He knows his success is because of you and with multiple stakes forces over the past several years including henley joy our brain trust male agasi south bend and recent two thousand twenty one stakes winners pacific gal and nikki. The vest stewart morris is absolutely your source for success at the highest levels. You can visit the stewart morris consignment at all of the upcoming major sales. We'll catch up with chad down the road. He did say he would be happy to reschedule. So we'll catch him and talk more which had brown up the road. But you take a look at that. Diana today mylan eighth on the turf course obviously. I joked earlier that it should be the chad brown invitatinal considering the success these especially in recent years. It's much like we talked about with the belmont derby and the belmont oaks. Y- you start to kind of get a sense of where the american turf forces rank with some of the europeans and it's not like we have a huge european presence in this race today. But you have tika. Who is trained by charlie appleby who is one for once coming to the united states won the just a game at belmont and belmont day june fifth. So we'll see three to one on the morning line You have lanista. Who is trained by chad brown. One of a couple of here for chad brown. She began her career in europe. Came here was second in the bogey in her. Us debut that was back on may eighth summer romance. Another one for charlie appleby second behind stablemate al tika in that just a game stakes at belmont back on june fifth. She's going to get a lot of respect in here too. That is her only start in the united states. And then you have pocket square for chad. Brown also began. Her career in europe has had two starts here in allowance win and a fifth place finish in the justice game. So chad brown versus charlie appleby. I think those are. That's a fair way to look at this year's diana i think of anybody else wins and you have some big names in here with shag. Mcgahey and arnaud delacour. But i think if anybody else were to walk away with the title. Other than chad brown or charlie appleby. You'd be a little bit surprised post time for the day today. Six sixteen eastern on. I'm going to get to another break. I'll come back and take a look at some memorable dates in racing history as they apply to today and tomorrow. Then get you ready for our number three. This is the equine forum on the horse racing radio network your home..
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"People back in europol so And you just hope it goes on Just a fantastic fantastic life in the sport lenny. Schulman everybody and lenny will catch up with you down the road and out of you know on a cheery next year exactly. We'll talk to you next january. I would tell everybody to visit lenny on Twitter but there's no point buried in a snowbank. Well i i do. Have if i may yes. I do have a book coming out later. This year called the head-to-head compilation events reviews that i've done Through the years In the blood horse of which. You know the bobby frankel was certainly one of them. But it's collection about forty five interviews. I've done and so i hope to be coming back and chatting with you about that at some point without stale and so a another another lenny. Shulman thome and this that same company that that put out justify the university crashes kentucky is terrific terrific. Yeah very excited about it. A lot of great interviews People like david milch. And sam sheppard and rick pitino.
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"Behind in a kind of nine hundred. Finish second we of year filmmakers. These these were some suffering of the week before the force. Yeah the these are some solid runners. Yeah this is. This is a nice field. Let's listen to durkan here. Is prince colleagues intercontinental. Bobby frankel and full house at beautiful belmont park the two thousand five years affiliate mirror what samara speed but is there risk versus in between those two. When does not far behind mona. Lisa's forwardly placed today but there it goes intercontinental out to race for the lead as they make their way for the i heard so it's intercontinental on the outside up the lead wendy's second and mona lisa. Not far behind on the outside. Third risk-averse opposed today fourth toward the head and then inbetween. Horses is flipped running along and fifth position. Now on the outside. It's karen's caper. She's four wide around the first turn running in six hundred seventh and on hold on the inside. We keyboard right there and mid pack in this bulky field. She's running along eighth position. Not far behind us wonder again. And then on the outside filmmaker watching a bid from about ten legs out of it followed by lewis line favorable terms and gara trails. The field and very keen upfront is intercontinental. Who's the pace year. Rafeal bay around china's settler dom which was able to negotiate a half mile in forty eight and four fifths new seconds over this off going that's attempted pace for these leagues up top intercontinental now being challenged by wind as they race. For the half-mile pole parents caper looms on the outside right. They're running at third mona lisa. Underwrite a stamp with mild ago. Flip-flop continues to run. Well boards only five lakes behind as they enter the far. Turn by lewis line filmmakers launching. Her bed wonder again still about nine. Or ten lakes. Send drop threads her way through risk versus tailing off followed by terms. And at megahertz is wavy. Megahertz has been trailing update. Turns for all still shakes took now the worst case he says. He's says they're buff. They youtube buffering. The thing that's not here we got almost thing we love. Well yeah i mean she. She.
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"Of uninterrupted and i on alloy success exactly and not to not to belittle others accomplishments but there have been. There have been initiatives From other particularly from from the middle east that just have have not had the kinds of continuity and success that that judgment has enjoyed and there was a there was a consistency and apply to the way in which their operation went about the business. It seems to me that that up. Until bobby frankel passing and and henry i mean he. He basically had the same people around him. Just you know from for the entire breath of of the operation. Broadly speaking yes. But it's very interesting. I interviewed cricket head. Marek this morning. She trained for comment but my parents career try him. Classic winner special duty and great one sprinters like african rose many other quality horses and cook at train them. A number one is probably people wouldn't even put in that top fifty colored abdullah and horses of all time not simply house dominant is operation was but she.
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"bobby frankel" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network
"That they don't seem to get the opportunity to have some happy days in the in in the back paddock so this was This was notable and also in japan These i'll die was of the year not not surprisingly And since we went in this direction And certainly off of yesterday's gold cova news and featuring and even though we're we were saying goodbye and sad about her passing. I it still to me was a lot of fun to talk to nick. To listen to those three replays. Hope you enjoyed those That cut of freddy had Tickles me to no end. And then this morning the through the magic of a the memories feature on facebook it turns out that the Fourteen years ago fourteen. No two thousand seven. Yeah two thousand seven. Fourteen years ago on january six the same day as golda kobe yesterday on january sixth two thousand and seven to saad had passed and the next day afterward circulated the next day fourteen years ago today. Bobby frankel the was on and bobby for about ten eleven minutes. We talked about two so and her amazing career as a broodmare. And as a racehorse. And in fact i listen to it again this morning. Because i it just a your bobby's voices fun. You know that that very familiar delivery and you know kind of i don't wanna say world-weary but it bobby had a certain certain patter that when you hear it you just smile because you can really pick your with that with that impish grin and dad you know or or scowl at times right so if you wanna if you wanna hear bobby frankel voice from on this date kind of thing. I put up the lincoln. The twitter feed and it's also Facebook page two. So yeah the memories. The varies feature that has its moments. not not all but sometimes it reminds me of something you know sat. But you'll you'll you'll really. You'll really appreciate the if you've never heard it if you're never heard it it's new to you and if you heard it the you can hear it again along the lines of of some other names. There were two passing. That i i think i mentioned it just kind of quickly the other day when we came back on monday i mentioned wills way. And i'm gonna bring wills way up with steed asking later and and you know we'll try to get at some point. We'll try to really should get jimmy bond on as well but wills way at at old friends and mike blowing. Promised mike that we'd get him in for a visit. These first two weeks of the year wills way it comes from i guess you call it a golden era but it it it certainly for me personally as as somebody that was really going to saratoga and two triple crown races on a regular basis by then not so much Derbies i didn't go to my first derby until two thousand and one but you know plenty of preakness belmont and saratoga as many as four or five weekends a year and in the nineties. I was living in montreal. Also are easy the come down the three hours That that season that summer And then the next year to really Wills way at three and four it was. I guess it is twenty minutes twenty years ago. Twenty plus years ago it feels like a a pretty. You know guilt tinged Few years you know the the kinds of horses that were banging heads on a regular basis. That wills way was part of and i mean that he could do a special one of those specialty shows with with wills way and skip away and and former golden. Please editor's note and louis quatorze. I it just crazy. There were so many good horses the right in that in that period and and wils way and maybe it was because he was a son of easy goer. And new york's easy goer. Maybe that contributed to his particular pension for success At the highest level in new york his drivers win and then you know a year later. The unbelievable thrilling whitney with formal gold. Where the two of them were were but does not a dozen th skip away was was tied to a post in that whitney self wills way and jimmy bond and choppy choppy and Choppy won the travers with him. And bailey won. The the whitney with them barely broke his maiden to really remember. That bailey broke. his maiden. has a gulfstream february of his three-year-old year. Then smith won an allowance with him Then correct piret wrote him once in the flamingo. Elementary one that and then allowance with joppy child. Shabazz wrote him seven times after that Through the mass gap the mass gap between cigars at at. Skip away a mask apps. Unbelievable so wills. Way i'll let. I'll ask it handle this the than haskins wheelhouse. He's probably got. He's probably got a binder. I'll guess it's two and a half two and three quarter inch thick of notes on wills wave there's also one more to since we're in this in this arena before we get the dick powell ear and the elmhurst and i and i i kind of happened on this accidentally i didn't i hadn't seen this I guess the other day when it when it announced when it was announced. But i think i saw that somebody you know either liked it or or re tweeted the the blood horse case but almost died on the fourth nine on monday and he was at our mims.
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Remembering Trainer Bobby Frankel
"Who had a chance to to meet late probably frankly he had a very rough exterior but he absolutely the teddy bear description I if you bobby liked you it was probably nothing he wouldn't do for you but you Kinda had to break through the the crushed on the top I but he had a heart gold and he sincerely loved his animals and the he absolutely loved the people that work for them there were people that were bobby Franco who you know basically stayed there forever because bobby was sold warrior was on employees and took care of them that they had no reason to want to leave he was just a superb horseman super person and I was very happy to get to know Bobby Frankel on real positive basis absolutely another one and I got the same I've got the same story and I had the advantage of Siaka introducing US and and Lula's narrow and there there were a bunch of people the dotty and Gordo here there were I already had had a relationship with a lot of people that he was very close to so it was easy to have an entree that way but you know he's another and and I you know we had conversations on the air but I would also call Frankel off the air ask him for insights and you know on topics that were a lot of a lot of cases a topics that you know I I was grappling with understanding about you know about the game or or you know trying to formulate opinions medication issues and so forth and you didn't have to worry that that Bobby Frankel wasn't going to give you the you know that he wasn't gonNA shoot from the APP going to give you the gut reaction level the best the best story ever I wish it's too bad that asking is traveling we we were sitting we were having there was a big group dinner I bring this up with ask it every chance a group dinner at the Novi and still Sergio's at the time the Louis Louise at one end of the abol the Angel Cordero was there and they were all there's a whole by those big mix of people and Steve and Joan and and bobby and I can't remember Frankel was sitting across from or next to me I think across from me I think casket was next to me and we were talking we were talking about the election about the election and this would have been this would have been something with with Rob Haskins comes out with how he's voting for Romney and Franken Frankel looked at it said you gotta be the worst it's W. I'll never if people would be surprised but maybe but Frankel was was very very liberal and progressive and I don't ever ever forget that the world's top is Joe for that more I was the greatest great story I I was excited to see that site of bobby as far as politics concerned but it's really interesting to hear too