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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast

Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast

"He plays steel guitar and Manson got lessons from him. This is also where Manson learns about scientology Manson is particularly interested in the theory that your body is a vessel that you are temporarily in and greater. Things are always possible. You have the opportunity to be this great Glory as being and you have probably seen this before and it's just a matter of accepting your nature. Charlie gets out in 1967 and he grows his hair long and he sees what's going on. He heads out to Berkeley. He looks like he fits in except he didn't care about Vietnam War and he didn't care about the other causes of equality. He saw with free love that he was going to have to revamp his ideas about being a pimp again. The thing he can work with is the fact that young people are feeling alienated like they don't belong Mary Brunner is a librarian in Berkeley when she meets Charles Manson, she's from the Midwest and she is dressed like a librarian not a hippie. He met her when she was walking her dog and he used the dog something to talk about use the Dale Carnegie techniques. They become quick friends and Manson tells her that he doesn't have a place to stay at the moment Mary offers to let him stay at her place for a few nights off they start to sleep together and it becomes more like a relationship. She goes to work and Charlie goes out to work on his music. Then he starts bringing other girls back with him. He uses the free-love ideas of days to convince her that this is okay and she eventually comes to terms with sharing him. Gurus were a big thing. Then there were many philosophers speaking to the kids in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. Charlie hangs around the park and listens to them. He gradually started his own little group Mary Brunner a wholesome looking blonde then Lynette Fromme who was a runaway and what time Known as squeaky with a short red hair pixie cut Patricia krenwinkel long medium brown hair and sturdy and Susan Atkins who had long dark hair and quite a background Charlie still wanted a music career. So they moved they went from San Francisco down to La they picked up another girl there Diane who was only fourteen or fifteen at the same time and she would have sex with Charlie that very night. She said she was already sexually active at this point, but he made love to her that night and it was magic Paul Watkins met the girl when he bought some weed off them. He became Manson's Chief recruiter for young women Bobby beausoleil entered the picture not long after that. He was nicknamed cupid is all the girls liked him. He was a troubled kid who had gone to reform school, and he wanted to be a musician like Manson there were more and more young people joining the family. They soon found Spahn Ranch and they moved right in and took over. Some of the girls were hitchhiking one day and got picked up by Dennis Wilson the drummer for The Beach Boys. He met Charlie and somehow hit it off. And then Charlie in a group of the girls were practically living at Dennis box house out in the Pacific Palisades for a while. Dennis was the one that got Terry Melcher to come out and listen to Charlie's music this gave Charlie a lot of Hope for his music career Charlie wrote his own songs and performed them for all of them. Dennis was generous to the people. He tried to help Dennis has friends at the time said that people would come and listen to Charlie to humor Dennis Wilson had a sort of habit of finding this fits in wage and trying to help them in some way Charles Tex Watson is picked up hitchhiking by Dennis Wilson and Dennis takes him back to his house where Charlie and the girls are he was from a small town in Texas and the people back there..

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

14:00 min | 1 year ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"He signed onto being LAPD double agent. Basically that was that was the end of his freedoms now back to the altar and all that I did find a book called spiritualism or SPIRITISM BY G H S. Two books are you follow. ESTA Brooks Yeah I'm sorry to tell you that. ESTA Brooks in. My research is one of those guys even middle of mind control. He's like Sidney gottlieb kind of character. He's like the Louis Jolyon west of UCLA who did Mind Control Control Experiments. You know the CIA gave huge amounts of money. The Not only to you know what you would think be. You know typical prisons prisons but also to universities you know to journalists William F. Buckley was on the CIA payroll Eric. So you get a sense of how insidious their influence was back. Then the unabomber. If I recall was part of the experiments show me say. I've heard that as well home so so I guess you get A sense of Reagan and of course Nixon being president and their sense of militarism and paranoia toward what was considered to be a possible revolution. And I don't think we'll ever see it's like again in. US history for literally. Yeah yeah literally I was just GonNa say Eric People like Reagan and younger and Richard. Nixon believed there was going to be a military attempt at overthrowing the US government which I think is absurd. Well they were being. There was a a lot of people who are feeding that stuff too. It's like I couldn't help but think of parallels with Colin Westbrook and how he was sort of running you know donald freeze but then. There's some speculation about Krishna. VENTA being influence on Charles Manson and all of these guys had this running theme of well. Okay I'm it's hard to get my thoughts together but I found it very interesting that you were talking about the worries of I guess you say Black Revolution and they were emulating the situation with the SLA. But Charles Manson was emulating that situation or his family's emulating that situation as well in the opposite one of the things I talk about on the Etro tour a bus tour of Manson land God bless Richard and Kim because they have introduced me to people in the La Sheriff's department and the it once again it's the Black Panthers it turns out that there's an angle by which Manson's since followers especially the quote unquote girls were trading dynamite found in abandoned gold mines in California uh with Black Panthers And in exchange the girls brought back to Manson's group guns and one day the Black Panthers there's greeted Manson's girls with the dynamite and said thank you. Now get the hell Outta here or before we kill you. And that was the end the relationship so the L. L. A. P. D. and the La Sheriff's both could have arrested while they did arrest Charles Manson and his followers initially and then let them out and then the infamous murders happen they could have kept them in jail and basically my research reveals through. You know Richard in Kim helping me that the LAPD and and the sheriff's Department thought that there was going to be an a violent engagement between Charles Manson's followers and the Black Panthers and they left them out. They're hoping for that engagement. So that they could sweep up and arrest any black panthers so so there's a similarity in terms of the theme of we'll do anything to break up the Black Panthers enters Between revolutions and and of course the Manson murders and would it be fair speculation. I've always kind of felt that Charles Manson himself was nowhere near as dynamic or fantastic as as billing. Well if you're talking about as music music Eric I would tend to agree with you. I think it's pretty bland Charles Manson again. I like because I've I started writing in writing feeder when I write a non fiction book I want the protagonist no matter how negative to be three dimensional. Sure and and without apologizing Charles Manson. You've got to remember that. His mother was a prostitute never knew his father he was raped in jail and within the reformatories and he was not a normal guy before he got out of his teams. I agree so one thing he learned was how to manipulate violate young women to to tell them they were beautiful. He learned from Dale Carnegie. He actually worked for a while for scientology. What was wild he were you got cut off? Yeah he was he was a guy who worked for scientology in Hollywood. And we're and we're trying to recruit people and that didn't work out so well my good friend Paul Krassner who we lost. Not Too long ago had done a lot of really great articles about the SLA in about Manson found out that Manson was let go by scientologist because he was a a little creepy but he wanted the reason he studied. Eric is he wanted to learn how to manipulate the the women that would basically become his family and again without going. Too far down the rabbit hole. The Manson land tour talks about the fact that he watching completely in control of the family. Exactly why Tex Watson and Linda Kosabe Ian were running drug deals without his is knowing it Tex Watson introduced Charles Manson to Sharon Tate. We wasn't a random murder so if you take week if you take Quentin Tarantino's amusing movie and you take Tom O'Neill's chaos book which is twenty years of here. All all the people I met and I still don't know what happened. And you set all that aside and say this guy was a lunatic who manipulated people. And he was burning people on drug deals and the people in his family got out of control and and killed people without his authorization nation. You have a better understanding of what Manson was about. And if you look into then Bouli. OC who wrote helter skelter which sold a couple million copies sir. You understand that. He was accused of prosecutorial misconduct. Because he he was trying to use Susan Atkins as a star witness. And the man tonight said you testify against Charleen. You're in big trouble. So all of a sudden she was unreliable liable and Buluwayo say was stuck with Linda Ca Sabin and he said you know. Put your hair up in pigtails and look innocent. Well forget the fact that you were one of the biggest LSD dealers in Boston will forget the fact that you and Tex Watson were burning people in drug deals in Los Angeles Angeles and you will testify that Charles Manson ordered the murders. And if you do that we will give you immunity. And if you don't do that you you will never see the light of day again. This pretty common honestly it's unique to The Manson family. I mean they're always trying to flip somebody sure but in essence they're flipping. Linda Kosabe Ian to lie so so actually Bouli. OC is also Guilty of of Leaking stuff to the press which could have created a mistrial and Charles Manson could've walked and and part of all of this. I guess the best way to wrap this part up part of all this is that they had a legitimate fear the LA DA's office and that fear was if Charles Manson was ripping off people with drugs and Tex Watson and Bobby Beausoleil went crazy in drug burns and killed somebody in a panic. Charles Charles Manson is an accessory and in one thousand nine hundred seventy and accessory to murder could get eighteen months. Can you imagine what the world interest in the Manson murders. What would have happened if the La da even if they got convictions actions against the others? If Charles Manson only got eighteen months they had to lie and say that he ordered the murders nothing. He's a good guy and then it should have walked free but there was no way in hell and again it's ever younger. Are Powell who worked with Ronald Reagan and the SLA Soleil was ever younger. Who basically went to Buoy Osi? Who was two years in the? DA's office went around the DA. who was in charge? WHO said? Hey it's just a bunch of drug burns and and younger realized that Bouli Osi was saying not only. Could it turn our reputation if Manson gets accessory but it will make our reputation in our careers if we say. He's the Spin Golly who hypnotize people to murder rap thing. They're just a bunch of burnout to screwed up in drug burns. And that my friend is the inside nine-story of the Manson murders. Since truthfully nobody would really care if it wasn't for Sharon tate same way nobody really care about the SLA without Patty. Hearst this is this is very true which is a kind of a sad comment because when you when you think about you know what the LAPD in the CIA a were doing. It's terrible it. It's a horrible history and people should know more about this stuff but again people perceive it as radical politics and it doesn't sell and so forth and so on ask you about that a little bit because you you know admittedly elise year I guess Somewhere to the left of Bernie Sanders. We're looking at practical guy. I know that when Elizabeth Warren says I I want Medicare for all that she's making a huge tactical error the politician because to not recognize. That's how powerful the health industry and big Pharma is in. This country is to just be naive. Like they're the things that you and I want in World Eric and then there are things that are possible given the system. You can't boil the ocean now. That's not where I was going where I was going to sit. I I look at you know a lot of stuff. There happened there in. It's obviously from the laugh. Door would be perceived as left. But they're also have been some Bruce Miss Justices or you know real questions about things going to the right and you know a lot of people say that Waco way out of hand and there are there. Instances like that because Waco kind of generated forget the other one ruby rich sorry Ruby Ridge route in college by most as terror waivers and they were hard core right winging borderline Nazis. I I know of that but I'm kind end of wondering if this is not a government. That's anti laughed. Maybe it's just it's a government that's anti anti-government does that make sense it. It's kind of. I'm curious because I've been on Shows we're the host is far right but what they appreciate about. My research is that I'm saying look at what these agencies have done in the name of justice and the law so you it's kind of you all of a sudden there's a middle middle ground shirt now of course if I talked about you know forgiving college debt. They go get off my show. But you know there's this interesting middle ground on of of people who do not trust the government and of course you know if Congress is at sixteen percent and you know. Donald Trump's impeached reached obviously. There's a huge movement in this country. Rejecting trust in government. The question is how do you change the system to make it better. there's so many things that prevent that lobbying You know campaign finance reform. you know citizens united there. There are so many things that enabled this system that a lot of people say. Hey lobbying thing is a form of graft it's a it's a an industry paying someone in order to look at the bills that they wants. Shouldn't it on the floor of Congress. Well that doesn't sound very very democratic to me. But that's the way our country operates so wild well DI radical but then you say okay..

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

09:57 min | 1 year ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"A list of episodes that we used. We'll be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics criminals use to deceive of course and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses is aggressiveness cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage wjr cultivating followers or seducing a murder victim is the driving force behind criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over for their prey psychologist. George Simon identified many tactics manipulators use to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim victim to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gas lighting. So who manipulators target. How do they select the right white person to fall PREY TO THE SCHEME DR? Harriet breaker identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please low self reliance desire to earn acceptance of blurry sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today we'll walk through a variety of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with the a clip from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cope leader Charles Manson radicalized its follow worse worse and cultivated an intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding. While the most famous killings committed by the Manson family where the tate labianca murders in August of nineteen sixty nine their first victim was drug dealer Gary Hinman Hindrance murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine. Charles House learned that the two men were in the midst of an argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased at thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs six were tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund. The families families 'cause in exchange Charleston over a few family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him. Charles knew that Henman was particularly clearly attracted to Manson family member. Eligible Bailey. So he suggested she go along to help persuade men but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests at the visit might become violent she later said she witnessed the family members arguing over which guns and weapons they would bring Henman's Henman apartment instead Charleston family members Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held the drug dealer. Taylor up at gunpoint while the spurn bobby. Beausoleil beat him senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment mint. But when Bobby called Charles to let him know he wasn't satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage in his home. They continue to make demands for money. Any while bobby relentlessly beat him when Henman told them he'd go to. The police. Bobby was spooked. He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before four. Continue with Bobby Psychology. cleese note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism. That people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless countless examples of people falling under a violent Colt influence and going on to do the unthinkable. Licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use the rise above all Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside information and instilling an US versus them mentality. Charles Manson uses same tactics family members. Look to Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance some even thought he was the reincarnation carnation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against the rich and powerful pigs of the outside outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word word bobby readily obeyed. He stabbed Henman than dipped his hand in the dying. Man's blood to draw on the wall. He wrote political piggy and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating incriminating the Black Panthers he hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter. Then the group black taking Henman's cars with them in this episode covering bring the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people people all in a bid to kick start. Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals medals of the Hippie era instead. They capitalized on the prevailing philosophy of peace and love in this next clip from colts. We examine Zaman one of the most iconic psychedelic colts. One thousand nine hundred seventy s the source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker relied on ideas. Like Enlightenment and free love to buy his disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior became their spiritual father offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this this manipulation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. I was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems of subjugation education as a cult leader Baker had developed a codependent relationship with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have has god. I'd like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being with the memory of total dependency comp leaders tap into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche followers are encouraged to become regressed and infantilized to believe that the lyft fifty pens unpleasing the cult leader and quote and just as much as the source family members needed Baker. He apparently needed them. According waiting to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March of Nineteen seventy-three the fifty one year old Baker managed to find the second home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home in the hills near the source restaurant. It was significantly -nificant smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother other house. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. Am am meditation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but another ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new beliefs constantly constantly with an ever expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself by the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers the pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Cults

Cults

09:57 min | 1 year ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Cults

"A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics to criminals use to deceive coerce coerce and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses aggressiveness Restiveness Cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage cultivating followers or seducing murder victim is the driving force behind the criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over their prey. Prey Psychologists George Simon identified many tactics manipulators used to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim to to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gas lighting. So who do manipulators target. How do they select the right person? PERSON TO FALL PREY TO THEIR SCHEME DR. Harriet breaker identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please these low self reliance desire to earn acceptance of blurry sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today will walk through a variety righty of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with a clip it from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cult leader Charles Manson radicalized as followers and cultivated and intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding while the most famous killings committed by the Manson family where the Tate Lubyanka murders in August of nineteen. sixty-nine their first victim was drug dealer. Gary Hinman hints murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal. Oh killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine Charles learned. The two men were in the midst of argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased a thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs were tainted tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund the families because in exchange Charleston over a few family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him Charles knew that Henman was particularly attracted to Manson family member L.. Joe Bayly so. He suggested she go along to help. Persuade Henman but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests. That visit might become violent. She later said that she witnessed the family members. Arguing over which guns and weapons. They would bring Henman's apartment instead. Charleston family members. Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held the drug dealer up up at gunpoint. While the spurn Bobby Beausoleil beat him senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment. But when Bobby called Charles let him know he wasn't satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brenner and Susan. Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage. In his home they continue to make demands for money while bobby relentlessly beat him. When Henman told them he'd go to the gleese bobby was spooked? He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before I continue with Bobby Psychology. cleese note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The the American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism. That people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless examples of people falling under a violent cult influence and going on to do the unthinkable licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use we use the rise of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside information and instilling an US versus them and Talapity. Charles Charles Manson uses same tactics. Family members looked Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance. Some even thought he was the reincarnation nation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against rich and powerful pigs of the outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word bobby readily obeyed he stabbed Henman then dipped his hand in the dying man's blood to draw on the wall he wrote a little piggy and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating donating the Black Panthers. He hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter. Then the group left after taking Henman's cars with them in this episode covering the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people all in a bid to kick-start Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals the HIPPIE era instead they capitalized on the prevailing philosophy of peace and love in this next clip from cults we examined one of the most iconic psychedelic cults of the Nineteen Seventy S. The source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker. You're relied on ideas. Like enlightenment and free love to bind. His disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior he became their spiritual father offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this manipulation installation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems of subjugation. Listen as a cult leader. Baker developed a codependent relationship with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have as God like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being with the memory of total dependency cult leaders tap app into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche. Followers are encouraged to become regressed and Infanta licensed to believe that their life depends pens. Unpleasing the culture and quote and just as much as the source family members needed over. He apparently needed them. According to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore your him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March one thousand nine hundred seventy three. The fifty one year old Baker managed to find a second can home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home. In the hills near the source restaurant it was significantly vacantly smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother house else. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. Am Meditation Tation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but in other ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new beliefs constantly. Instantly with an ever-expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself by the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers. The pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew the rules.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

04:12 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"When the grand jury reconvened on Monday December Assemble Eighth Prosecutor Bouillaud see presented witnesses who provided more evidence against Charlie and the four family members responding officers described describe the scene at Cielo drive and the discovery of a latent print matching tex watson's from his April arrest gun expert Ed Lomax asserted that that the gun handle found at the tate residents belong to a twenty two caliber bunt mind Longhorn revolver Joe Granado of Lapd Scientific Investigations Division gave testimony on the blood evidence and the rope tied around tate and CBN's necks Greg Jacobsen talked about Charlie's Charlie's relationship with Terry Melcher former resident of the property straight Satan biker Danny dicarlo testified he had gone with Manson to buy three strand nylon rope and had witnessed Charlie and text taking target practice with a bunt line twenty two caliber revolver at the spahn ranch. He also confirmed that Charlie frequently wore leather thongs around his neck similar to the ones found tied around lean law Bianca's wrists. It was four seventeen in the afternoon when the grand jury began its deliberations took them only twenty minutes to reach their conclusion Charles Manson. Listen Tex Watson Susan Atkins and Linda Ca Sapien were indicted on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy spiracy to commit murder Leslie Van Houten who had been present only at the law Bianca's scene was indicted on two counts of murder and one count of conspiracy commit murder four months after the murders that had shaken Hollywood and the country to its foundation formal charges have been brought against the five suspected killer's. Gary Hinman often supplemented lamented music teacher income by dealing drugs to his to Panga Canyon neighbors. One recent transaction involves thousand tabs of Mescaline that fellow musician Bobby Beausoleil Beausoleil delivers to the straight Satan Motorcycle Club acting as a go-between for Hinman. When the bikers tell bobby the product is substandard and demand their money back Charlie season opportunity. He tells bobby to take Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins over the Henman's place. They are to demand not only the thousand dollars is owed the straight Satans but the money Charlie needs to fund his Death Valley operation when bobby calls a little later. Charlie isn't happy with what here's his. Gary refused so bobby beat him until he signed over ownership of his two cars that might cover what he does the straight Satan and does nothing to satisfy Charlie proceeding yet another betrayal Charlie rides over to Henman's brandishing twenty and sword ord. He demands that Gary turnover everything he owns to the family when Henman protests that he has nothing more to give Charlie slashes him across the face with the sword partially severing his ear Hinman Begs for mercy reminding Charlie that he's always been a good friend of the Family Charlie heads back to spine leaving bobby with instructions not to leave until Hinman has signed over everything. He owns the next time bobby calls. It's with the news that after repeated beatings Gary has failed to come up with any more money and is now threatening to go to the police. It's clear to Charlie what must be done but he decides that him men's death will serve another larger purpose. Charlie prophesied a race. I swore and it shows no sign of happening on his schedule. If bobby can make it look like Gary Hinman was killed by the Black Panthers it might just initiate helter skelter.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

04:26 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"Of police of the city of conference answering no comment most reporters questions. There were however a few tidbits of new information. It was revealed that the weapons the cutting weapon and a firearm had not been found that the killer or killers. I did not appear to have been wounded and that narcotics were found in more than one part of the estate detective out and said that personally he doubted one man could committed the crime at his press conference chief. Davis told reporters that his men were doing as good a job as can humanly be done. Unfortunately the murderer or or murderers did not leave calling cards. The times article made no mention of the lobby onto killings in the first time he picks up a guitar. Charlie can field a new world opening up to him. The smooth would of the neck the curves of its body like a woman shape most of all the electric tingled passing a newest fingertips from the strings every time he strums a vibration gratien connecting him to some universal force that goes past thinking and straight to the animal so this power there he can sense sitting in the little room room he and rowsley of rented the power to change him and the power to change the world. Wherever looks now young people seem to know something. Their parents don't don't music wakes you up and freeze you. He listens to frankie laine on the radio. In the words feel more real than talking answer me creams frankie thank you and it's like he's asking the sky and stars charlie teaches himself some chords and when he opens his mouth to imitate frankie his voice surprises him like it's not really coming from him but tapping into the same forces frankie's a force that connects everything to everything he has things to say he feels for the first time in his life and there are people who will listen music is different from earthly the comings and goings of men like the words of the nazarene minister becoming more than just words he remembers feeling even when he was sitting at andt glenis piano yeah no little legs dangling off the bench tiny fingers pressing on those keys in him closing his eyes and these sounds wafting up toward the heaven that grandmother nancy see believed was reading and he had no opinion about facing murder charges in the death of music teacher. Gary hinman bobby beausoleil received his trial date on september fourth bobby had been in jail for about a month since the fiat station wagon he'd been driving had had broken down outside san luis obispo to highway patrolman had pulled up and when they checked the license plates they discovered the car was registered to the tha panga enga canyon murder victim. A quick examination of the fiat turned up a bloody knife hidden in the wheel. Well bobby was arrested and the l._a. County sheriff's department was notified. Detectives hall whiteley and charles guenther working on the hinman investigation drove up to interview the prisoner bobbie told them he'd recently purchased the car from a black guy when the detectives informed him that his fingerprints matched a bloody thumbprint found at the scene of the crime crime. He changed his story. Now he claimed that hinman had signed over the car to two girls he knew whiteley and gunther had beau soleil brought back to the l. a. county jail and booked for the murder of gary hinman. His trial date was set for november twelfth. As bobby sat in jail detectives whiteley leeann gunther were looking for his pregnant girlfriend kitty loot singer. A possible witness to the crime but kitty was nowhere to be found. Los.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

13:49 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on 790 KABC

"In minutes. But right now, we're going to go out to our friend. Westwood One news correspondent Jim Rupe? You can follow him at Jim Roope news. Jim Roope dot com. Shimron let's do it. A we have a for the third time now, Leslie Van Houten. Former Charles Manson follower has been recommended for parole. Now two times before that governor Brown overturned, it she stayed in prison. So this time is going to be up to Gavin Newsom. But this is the third time could be the charm for her and she makes the second. Well, she was the first so called Manson family member to be recommended for parole. But she's not she's not the only one Bobby Beausoleil was recommended for parole earlier in January earlier this month. So he could have to a former Manson family members walking the planet here in about two months or so now, why do I read it was the fourth go round for hers. This is well she's had twenty to nearly two dozen parole hearings. This is the third time that she has been recommended for parole. I see now Debra Tate. Jillian barberie friend is always up there and her position essentially is yes, she's become a model citizen. Yes. She is rehabilitated. Yes. She's in there. Helping other women sort of manage their. I don't know what addictions or personality disorders, whatever it is their spiritual crises, but she still has a debt to pay pay that payments should be life in prison. Yes. She in many others believe that no Manson family members should ever be allowed to be out of jail. Not governor Brown one of the things he noted when he denied for the second time her parole is at Van Houten still puts a lot of the blame for her actions on Charles Manson his influence on her. She's never really taken full responsibility. Now, what does that mean? That means she's never said, you know. Yeah. Now, her lawyer says it differently, but according to governor Brown anyway, in in his the reason for his denial is that she's never really said. Yeah, it's it was my responsibility. I did I chose to follow Charles Manson. I chose to listen to him. I chose to go out that night in that too. Nice spree. The second night, I chose to do the things he told me to do. It wasn't about my addiction my drug use. It wasn't about Charles Manson. I made the choice according to governor Brown. She's never said that. I would argue that's a naive position. And he also said that just by her actions alone. She is demonstrated how violent she can be even though she was nineteen. She put a pillowcase over Rosemary labianca said tighter, a lamp cord around her neck us, even though she was probably dead by the time, Leslie Van Houten stabbed her under Leslie Van Houten own admission she stabbed Rosemary labianca, fourteen sixteen times her back. So those reasons were what governor Brown used what she struck wishy strung out on drugs at the time. I don't know. She said that they were smoking marijuana taking LSD at the time. Whether she was actually under the influence that night. I don't know that for a fact, but that was their practice. And this was that whole thing that Charles Manson tried to get going that helter skelter the the race war. He believed if he committed these murders of these murders were committed that they could blame it on the African Americans and this would start a race war. And it would be eventually white people would overcome at all so Leslie Van Houten believe that she would be living after all this revolution was going on in a hole in the middle of the earth with the rest of the massive family members and later because after the African American people realize that they can't run society on their own. Why this is this is Charles Manson's philosophy? That's the stuff that she should be apologize. So that they would emerge that they eventually would emerge from this whole, and they would be, you know, the supreme rulers of the planet or at least. Mary Scott that was the actual that was Charles Manson's philosophy. Start this race more black people would rise up. They would this war would happen. They would defeat the white guy. They would run the planet realize they don't know how to run the planet, and then the the massive family would emerge from this hole in the middle of the earth, and they wouldn't run everything. They go back to some of the old interviews with Leslie Van Houten and Halford describe this Charles massive describes it too. But it is it's it's chilling and stomach wrenching all at the same time. And so how do we do? I don't I'm asking you an unfair question. You're just reporting on this. But I don't know how to manage my feelings about a nineteen year old who is severely mentally ill and drugs nippy related by crazy, man, severely criminal and violent murderous. Yes. Of course. Okay. Who spends sixty or seventy years in jail and rehabilitates the entire time. It is now seemingly a different person. And let's just for the sake of argument. Please don't get on me about this just for the sake of argument. Let's say she is a different person. Is that enough to say she should be out? Okay. Hardcore about this. Sorry. Is your loved one. I don't know how to assess it I don't know how to what to do with it. Because I know how people can really change. I'm sure, but she murdered somebody part of the show. But she. Well, I had to be very simple easy. But you have do you have input on this? Well, this is the dilemma that the parole board has that's the reason why it's not just one person with the ultimate decision by the governor. However, the this not just one person who denies it. And that's why there's this one hundred fifty day review process. One hundred twenty days are all about this review to see if all the facts and all the matters of law related to the decision actually were in place before the parole board this and this is a small unit of the Pro Bowl, not the entire parole board if all of that falls into place, then you have another thirty days at the governor gets to take a look at it and decide now the governor can do several things he can either uphold the conviction the the recommendation he can deny the recommendation, he can modify it. He can send it to the full parole board to review or he could do nothing which means Van Houten would be released. So there's a whole lot still that has to happen here. But that that's an. An interesting question is how as a human being do you process another human beings growth or non growth, or whatever? Yeah. Whatever it is or violent murder and when. When you that responsibility to make that kind of decision, how do you then reconcile it with yourself based on the fact of the murder conviction itself? Oh, yeah. Right. That's really really tough. And I you know, you gotta you gotta give it to the people on these parole boards who take that responsibility. And that challenge on I'd be interested to know how they make that decision and how it compares to other. I'm certain there are other murderers walking amongst us how they made that decision for those folks why this one is different. What did they mean? You said return it to the full parole board was that me. Well, remember, this was a committee a panel, a not there's the pro-aborts pretty large because there are several paroles parole hearings that go on throughout the state every day. Right. Yeah. So if if the governor says, well, this, you know, you guys were great. I appreciate your recommendation, but I'm going to send it back to all fifteen or however, many there are. And I want all you guys to take a look at this one particular case, that's what we mean by he can return it to the full parole board every member of that commission, then gets together. And we've used that case let me take a little call here. If you don't mind, Matt go ahead. Yeah. On the point with Leslie Van Houten, not taking full responsibility. I don't I don't disagree with that. But then if you then Charles Manson Manson can't be accused of having extra influence over people at the same time. Those are kind of logical contradictions aren't they? In other words, you can't willfully take responsibility. If Manson and was Manson convicted of having undue influence. No, no. I don't think it's a conspiracy. But in the world of ideas, he's he's, you know, supposedly this monstrous person, you know, almost Hitler Reich with with his influence over other people. And so those are contradictory ideas. Right. And and you'd have to argue not everyone can be influenced, and so he clearly attracted and had his way with people that were predisposed to be influenced and then you throw in some LSD. And maybe maybe that enhances it, but what you got to remember that most of these people in his so-called family were young female troubled and susceptible to drug use by troubled. What were they sexually abused physically? Abused? It could be that could be broken home could be anything that they were starved for love. Yeah. You know, and. Van Houten hurt. She was devastated by the divorce of her parents. She ran away with a boyfriend of the age of sixteen to the Haight Ashbury district of San Francisco. That's when she got in to drug somebody introduced her to Charles Manson immense, and eventually, and this is where it all started to fall into place. I know it is obvious that Manson had an influence. I can tell you. It was not the break-up of her family because kids kids leave home and stay away from home after they've got a lot of kids runaway kids run away and stay away when there's abuse in the home like overt, physical or sexual abuse. That's when they run away and stay away. So we can surmise. That's what was going on with David. You may comment. Go ahead. Hey, this is all about clarity, great subject. You guys are talking right in my alley. By the way, mansion the reason why his whole life and everything came about. And all this destruction is because he was rejected as a failed artist. Ultimately that was the impetus of it all. Wait. He was a he was sexually abused by his mother was a prostitute. He was violently Brian. And he was a psychopath. He had all he had everything. Remember it was because you know, he was rejected and much not too dissimilar to Hitler names. Should be erased. Forever was rejected as a failed artist from Australia and utilize the semitism and the anger against people at the top. Ultimately, it's the same thing sociological. Chaudhry people at the top naturally. David logic thing that we seem to be big on again. These days is erasing people from the record. That's what the Egyptians is to do. And now we can't figure out what the hell happened to them. And no one remembers the horrible thing that they should have been thinking about. So it didn't happen again. But go ahead. Again, with a broad picture, we need clarity in you know, on the subject, by the way. I'm a twelve step junkie twenty two years, clean and sober. And the fact is my dad who just passed away said the definition of adult is one takes responsibility for his or her actions, the twelve step teachers, guess what we get your own up. What where where was I full? And if you remember in Shawshank, Redemption when read Morgan Freeman Scherzer got rejected. Finally, he got accepted because he told that little Sonny boy says listen, I that little boy I wish I could take him and tell him, but that little boy is gone. What you have here is this man now and this woman, unfortunately, the person she's become right? Is a good thing. And she's done good. It's fine. But she needs obviously to own up and take responsibility, which I heard you said that she hasn't done. But even if she does is she's responsible at the end of the day. But maybe the person she was is responsible. And now the person she is much pay that price. It's a good point. So that's I think leeann would agree with you on that. So so the point of view is, of course, Jim Roope about the potential for parole is that it doesn't matter who she is. Now, she is connected to the person. She was and that person needs to pay the price in the cloak of that individual. And if she is doing good in prison litter, stay there and do some good until or not only that you can find meaning in your life peace and spirituality there. But you have to do it while paying the price of your nineteen year old self. That's right. I wish I had that much clarity these next. Couple of months are going to be interesting to see you know, kind of where it goes. Yeah. It will Newsom as new some shown his cards at all. No. And he has fifty days he well the process one hundred fifty he's got really the last thirty days. I'm sure he's thinking about it though. But he wants the first one hundred twenty days are done with your ear marked for the review of the law, the facts and all that kind of stuff then he'll have thirty days to make his decision. Governor Brown never used all thirty days. That's what's he got onto his desk. He said, no. Yes. Yes. Whether it'd be it whether it. Got to do some follow suit. It's going to be still at a decision. He's going to have to grapple with. And if I'm if you bet man, what are you betting if I'll bet man he won't let her out. Okay. There you go. Jim. Thank you as always, my friend take care of that. Right. Jim roope. Westwood One news reporter you can follow him at Jim Roope. R O P E. Jim Roope dot com or follow me on the Twitter at Jim Roope news. We are going to have Michael Broderick in here. Just a minute. He's an actor is a marine veteran. He's a father vein autistic child. He's trying opinions about that. We'll get into that with him. She's leeann tweeden. I'm Dr drew in. This is midday live.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

04:29 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

"This midday live. We are talking to a friend. Jim roope. Let's twist. Reporter. And we're going to hear now about another story regarding a Charles Manson follower is this that same woman that keeps coming up for parole, and she's a model citizen and Leslie Van Houten actually parole. She was I'd forgotten that. Yeah. How is she doing about? We haven't heard much. So she's out and about doing her thing is stealthily as possible. But this is Bobby Beausoleil who was convicted of the July twenty sixth Nike sixty nine murder of musician. Gary hinman, Gary him in you may you may know, he played with the beach boys a little bit, and that kind of thing Beaujolais himself was a musician. But and I guess everybody kind of knew each other than that compare to paying a canyon area. Yes. And allegedly or what the reports are is that hinman sold booze in the Manson family because Bush was a Manson follower some masculine, and it was apparently bad so booze lay in and Van Houten. I think in in another woman went to get their money back from the bad drugs. Hinman wouldn't give it to them. They called Manson over Manson came down to Hickman's house, and they tortured them for several days wound up stabbing him to death in then so. He was convicted on that murder in many believe that's the very first mass family murder because just a week or so later around the first week in August, August eighth I think was the Tate lobby the Tate murders, and then the next night, the lobby Janka murders. So that whole that whole helter skelter thing began with this Bobby Beausoleil and the Gary hinman murder. Has she been a model citizen through that? Or is this you're going to be like, let's see Manhattan, or is there bobby's a guy, but but there wasn't much. Information given to us about what kind of prisoner. He had been Sharon Tate. Sister was out there opposing the the parole because now the the the board recommended parole, so he's seventy one. Now, he you know, he apparently has enough credits. As far as his behavior in prison, or whatever he has learned education that kind of thing same deal. It was about how. So she was must be it must be an old, man. Now, seventy seventy one NATs. Manson was Eighty-three when he died in two thousand seventeen imprison. And so the governor Newsom though, he takes office on Monday. He couldn't fix the whole thing. You know, he's still has one hundred fifty days once he gets an office to decide if the booze lays Pearl can move forward the parole board recommends parole is up to the governor to actually granted. Icy is the family of the of the victim spoken up at all now. Well, person we've heard from has been Debra Tate. Yeah, she's against it really calls into question. The issue of Justice and the weighing out of Justice versus rehabilitation versus what are we used to call it where people pay their pennant penitentiaries how much penitence people pay. And I don't have the answer that Debbie Deborah feels very strongly that these people, you know, they they did what they did. And they must pay for life. And that's that in whatever the whatever gave the board the indication that he is either remorseful enough or has reformed enough over the forty plus years. I guess he's been in prison. All spend a lot longer than that. But all these years he's been in prison, then that's the reason for the parole. But we don't know the exact ruling from the pro board just yet because this was just handed down. I think Wednesday, but we'll find out. I would imagine at some point. And then the governor again has to weigh in. So we'll see if he actually gets out and on well, Jim happy new year. Good to hear your voice, and we'll talk again soon. Thank you so much Jim Roope. Westwood One news contributor, I'm willing to take your calls at eight hundred two to five to to the Butterball controversy has heated. Everybody up all day long, and whether or not the shutdown is an appropriate response or whether an emergency Nash, the government emergency being declared as way that the Mr. Trump may get his wall funded is an appropriate way to use his executive powers all important issues. Eight hundred two two two five to two this midday live..

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

04:36 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on 790 KABC

"Radio seven ninety KABC. Talk talk talk. This has been we are talking to a friend. Jim roope. Westwood One news reporter, and we going to hear now about another story regarding a Charles Manson follower is this that same woman that keeps coming up for parole, and she's a model citizen and help Leslie Van Houten. Right. He's actually parole. She was I've forgotten that. How is she doing out on about? We haven't heard much. So she's out and about doing her thing is stealth we as possible. But this is Bobby Beausoleil who. Was convicted of the July twenty six nine hundred sixty nine murder of musician. Gary hinman Gary him, and you may you may know, he played with the beach boys a little bit, and that kind of thing Beausoleil himself was a musician. But I guess everybody kind of knew each other than that comp- to paying a canyon area. Yes, and allegedly are what the reports are is that hinman sold booze lay in the Manson family because Bush was a Manson follower some masculine, and it was apparently bad so booze and Van Houten. I think in in another woman went to get their money back from the bad drugs. Hinman wouldn't give it to them. They called Manson over Manson came down to Henman's house, and they tortured him for several days wound up stabbing him to death. And then so. Beausoleil was convicted on that murder in many believe that's the very first mass family murder because just a week or so later around the first week in August, August eighth I think was the Tate lobby the Tate murders, and then the next night, the lobby Janka murders. So that whole that'll helter skelter thing began with this Bobby Beausoleil and the Gary hinman murder. And has she been a model citizen through that? Or is she going to be like, let's see Manhattan, or is there bobby's a guy, but but there wasn't much. Information given to us about what kind of prisoner. He had been Sharon Tate's sister was out there opposing the the parole because now the the board recommended parole, so he's seventy one. Now, he you know, he apparently has enough credits. As far as behavior in prison, or whatever he has learned education that kind of thing same deal with Leslie Van Houten. So she was must be it must be an old man now, seventy seventy one. Yeah. Nats Massimo's Eighty-three when he died in two thousand seventeen in prison. And so the governor Newsom though, he takes office on Monday. He could Knicks the whole thing, you know, he's still has a hundred and fifty days once he gets an office to decide if the booze delays Pearl can move forward, the parole board just recommends parole is up to the governor to actually granted. Icy is there's the family of the of the victims spoken up at all. Now, personally, we've heard from has been Debra Tate. Yeah, she's against it really calls into question. The issue of Justice and the wing of Justice versus rehabilitation versus what are we used to call it where you people pay their pennant penitentiaries how much penitence people pay. I don't have the answer that I know Debbie, Deborah feels very strongly that these people, you know, they they did what they did. And they must pay for life. And that's that in whatever the whatever gave the board the indication that he is either remorseful enough or has reformed. Enough over the forty plus years. I guess he's been in prison. Also a lot longer than that. But all these years he's been imprisoned than that's the reason for the parole. But we don't know the exact ruling from the pro board just yet because this was just handed down. I think Wednesday. But we'll find out. I would imagine at some point. And then the governor again has to weigh in. So we'll see if he actually gets out on well, Jim happy new year. Good to hear your voice, and we'll talk again soon. Thank you so much Jim Roope. Westwood one. News contributor, willing to take your calls at eight hundred two two two five two to the Butterball controversy has heated. Everybody up all day long, and whether or not the shutdown is an appropriate response, or whether an emergency Nash, the sort of a government emergency being declared as way that the Mr. Trump may get his wall funded is an appropriate way to use his executive powers all important issues..

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Manson family follower recommended for parole: media

Dr. Drew Midday Live with Lauren Sivan

00:46 sec | 2 years ago

Manson family follower recommended for parole: media

"Liz Warner California parole board has recommended parole for a former follower of late cult leader. Charles Manson, convicted of what people believe may have been the very first so-called Manson family murder helter skelter, that's what Matt's and call the chaos that would ensue if the murders of actress, Sharon Tate, Leno, and Rosemary labianca and others would be pinned on African Americans. The first murder, however on July twenty six nine hundred sixty nine two weeks before the Tate lobby slayings was at the hand of Manson follower. Bobby Beausoleil who stabbed musician. Gary hinman at the behest of Manson because Inman reportedly would not give them back money for some bad drugs. Lay told the BBC years ago that none of the so called family members really knew what they trust in spite of the recommendation, incoming governor Gavin Newsom could still

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

01:31 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

"Ten. Ten. Good morning. I'm Brett burkhart will get you back to Ethan Bearman in a moment. First though, a Hayward man has been placed on three years felony probation in order to serve thirty days in the county jail for brood brutally beating his nine month old pit bull puppy because the poppy defecated in his house the Alameda DA's office says the twenty four year old Joshua Tadic pleaded guilty to felony animal. Cruelty charges. In addition to the jail time. He won't be allowed to own any animals for the next three years. A former follower of the late cult leader. Charles Manson has been recommended for parole. Jim Roope reports Bobby Beausoleil was convicted of what many say is the first of the so-called Manson family murders. Beausoleil was convicted of the July nineteen sixty nine stabbing death of musician. Gary hinman inside his Los Angeles area. Home after him and refused to refund money for some bad, drug cinnamon sold to Beausoleil and the Manson family. The now seventy one year old has been recommended for parole after last being denied in two thousand sixteen but that recommendation is. Is not a guarantee. Incoming governor Gavin Newsom who takes office on Monday has a few months to decide whether or not to block Beaujolais's parole. Jim Roope, Los Angeles net. Flicks says it can't believe it had to do this. But it is putting out a warning for fans of the smash horror hit bird box, blah. Scotus company is urging people not to participate in a new online challenge. People are apparently wearing blindfolds just like, Sandra, Bullock's character and snapping selfies of themselves. They are also visiting the Monrovia California home featured in the.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:54 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

"At K G O good morning. I'm Brett burkhart fingerprints helped the Alameda County sheriff's department identify her as Twenty-three-year-old Carina Bonte of Hayward Bontes cause of death is still not known, but officials are awaiting results of toxicology tests, they say she had problems with substance abuse and mental health a former follower of the late cult leader. Charles Manson has been recommended for parole. Bobby Beausoleil who was convicted for what is considered the first in the so-called Manson family murders that started what Manson called helter. Her skelter stabbed musician. Gary hinman in his Los Angeles area. Home in July of nineteen sixty-nine that booze late told the BBC twenty five years ago to bed now, seventy one year old was reportedly demanding his money back then for some bad drugs. Him in soul to him booze lay was lasted denied parole in two thousand sixteen he could still be denied, however, incoming governor Gavin Newsom could Knicks the parole. Manson died in prison in two thousand seventeen Jim Roope, Los Angeles. San Francisco city leaders have officially opened the five hundred fifty million dollar expansion of Mosconi center. The building is environmentally friendly with breathtaking views and above ground pedestrian bridges. The expansion adds thousands of feet of additional meeting space not far from there. A team of engineers has approved proposed repairs at the new transbay transit center in San Francisco. It was only open briefly before cracks were found in a couple of key beams that support the structure late last year engineers floated the idea of shoring up the cracks with steel plates. A team of independent engineering experts has. Now approve those repairs, but it's not known win. The new center will be reopened from repairs to recalls Ford is recalling nearly a million cars because the air bags can explode and spray shrapnel at passengers similar problems with Takata airbags have killed at twenty three people around the world. Ford says it will replace the passenger air bags and the edge ranger fusion Lincoln Milan. And Mustangs may between two thousand ten in two thousand fourteen and speaking of repairs and upgrades. The San Francisco Giants are installing a new high-tech billboard at AT and T park, the bigger bolder brighter video debuts March twenty fifth when the giants host the as for spring training. The new scoreboard will cover ten thousand seven hundred square feet, and it'll be the third largest in the majors behind Cleveland and Seattle events are getting underway in the south bay for the college football playoffs. Tens of thousands of visitors are arriving in the bay area for college. Football's biggest game Levi stadium on Monday night. Parts of downtown San. Jose have already been transformed, including San Jose's mckenry convention center. Which is now been dumped as playoff fan central offer an interactive fan experience positive seizure. Shabas and San Pedro square are also spots for football team activities that night. There will be free concerts at discovery meadow. Cagey is Terry rouse reports. Alabama and Clemson face offer the title, it's the third time in four years at two faced off in the championship. We are looking good up there nine.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

03:52 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on WJR 760

"Fifty thousand watt voice of the mid west. This is news talk seven sixty WJR Detroit. Thirty six degrees and sunshine at eleven o'clock. Good morning. I'm Marie Osborne. Well, let's talk market make up for yesterday's big losses. Will only time will tell the prices got a good start in the process when trading began today one day after stock prices dropped like a rock. They shot up the moment. Trading began the Dow Jones industrial average had a two percent rise early in the morning. There was definitely some bargain. Buying in the wake of Thursday's plunge. But the better than expected jobs report from the Labor Department bolstered confidence in the underlying fundamentals of the US economy, even apple stock which posted a substantial loss on Thursday. Thanks to an anticipated disappointing earnings report for the fourth quarter was up this morning early in the day. Apple had risen more than two percent. Steve Kastenbaum, New York. And. Another business news US employers dramatically stepped up they're hiring in December. Adding three hundred twelve thousand jobs, here's Christine Romans, two point six million jobs created in two thousand eighteen that is the best since two thousand fifteen when we saw two point seven million twenty fourteen weeks off three million jobs created that's where we are a very strong finished a two thousand eighteen and another strong year for hiring in two thousand eighteen the best in a couple of years. This is a driver of the American Konami all kinds of different jobs in healthcare that continues to be strong construction manufacturing. That's also a strong sign in the market, Paul Whalen of former US marine from Nova remains in custody in Russia. He was arrested last Friday accused of being a spy his family says he's not a spy he was in Moscow for a wedding, former congressman an FBI agent. Mike Rogers, telling Paul W Smith from everything he knows about this case of Paul Whalen of Novi. He doesn't believe he was a spy. It is a very difficult thing to do for a. American spy to be in place like Moscow, and then go out and meet in exchange anything that has some value in it some some information because both people are subject to arrest. And so that's why I'm just a profile of the way that thing happened. Just doesn't make sense to me. A former follower of the late cult leader. Charles Manson has been recommended for parole. Jim Roope reports Bobby Beausoleil was convicted of what many say is the first of the so-called Manson family murders. Beausoleil was convicted of the July nineteen sixty nine stabbing death of musician. Gary hinman inside his Los Angeles area. Home after him and refused to refund money for some bad drugs had been sold to Beausoleil and the Manson family. The now seventy one year old has been recommended for parole after last being denied in two thousand sixteen but that recommendation is not a guarantee. Incoming governor Gavin Newsom who takes office on Monday has a few months to decide whether or not to block Beausoleil parole. Jim Roope, Los Angeles. WJR news time eleven oh three. Let's get the update on sports. Here's sean. Well, good morning everybody. Big ten basketball action last night saw the Michigan wolverines improved a fourteen in o- on the season with a sixty eight fifty five win over Penn State in Ann Arbor. The wolverines are now in a three way tie. In the big ten with Indiana. And Michigan state speaking the Spartans are back in action Saturday right here on your home for the Spartan Spartan radio. Seven sixty w j are big matchup down in Columbus against Ohio State. The wings are in action tonight. Look at a break that six game losing streak. They have a chance to do. So against the Nashville predators the pistons have the night off, but they returned to action Saturday night at Little Caesars arena when they host the Utah Jazz. I'm Shawn blagent seven sixty WJR sports, traffic and weather first on the fives..

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:37 min | 2 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on KGO 810

"I'm Wednesday in the video you can hear him pleading for help as the driver of the Honda that hit him and a passenger get back inside the car and drive away. Our which may have been stolen was found abandoned nearby Oakland police spokeswoman Jonna Watson says they are asking for the public's help. Any piece of information may help you may have witnessed it. You may have taken photos Watson says they are confident they'll find the two involved in the incident. The teen is in critical condition. This morning officers say it's looking more likely that murder is not the cause of death of a woman whose body was found in a landfill. In Livermore, the body of Twenty-three-year-old Carina Bonte of Hayward was found on New Year's Eve. The Alameda County sheriff's department used her fingerprints to identifier. They are awaiting results of toxicology tests. In the meantime, they're asking for your help and piecing together the last days of her life. They say she struggled with addiction and homelessness. She was from Hayward. These state parole board has recommended parole for a former follower of the late cult leader. Charles Manson, convicted of what many believe is the first so-called Manson family murderer helter skelter, that's what Manson called the chaos that would ensue if the murders. Of actress, Sharon Tate, Leno, and Rosemary labianca and others would be pinned on African Americans. The first murder, however on July twenty six nine hundred sixty nine two weeks before the Tate labianca slayings was at the hand of mass and follower. Bobby Beausoleil who stabbed musician. Gary hinman at the behest of Manson because Inman reportedly would not give them back money for some bad drugs. Booze told the BBC years ago that none of the so called family members really knew what they were doing. In spite of the recommendation, incoming governor Gavin Newsom could still block the parole. Jim Roope, Los Angeles. President Donald Trump will meet with congressional leaders later this morning to try and find some solution to the two week old partial government shutdown. Bob Costantini, says the fire remains over whether the president gets money for a border wall. E news briefing room statement surrounded by border patrol union. Officials the president suggesting he senses the American people want him to hold out. I have never had so much support as I have in the last week over my stands for border security for border control, and for frankly, the wall or the barrier, Mr. Trump took no questions. So there was no explanation of what he meant regarding supports democratic leaders who don't want to allocate money specifically for a wool will meet with the president here late this morning in negotiating session. Joined by GOP leaders to Bob Costantini, the message and data rates may apply. Individual results may vary. See website for details. But.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

01:51 min | 3 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know

"I took her back to talk about trust me it's a little bit yeah list so like well let's recap real quick caveman soon his shot um lots of papa crowe in his stomach loss popcru has vowed to kill the whole means a family bobby beausoleil killed gary henman tried to frame of the black panthers by writing political piece in blood on the wall bobby beausoleil is arrested um the manson family supposedly trying to make it look like a somebody besides bobby bo salih might have killed gary henman um kill the people at the tate residents kill the people at the lobby janka residents right things like political piggies in rise and pig in blood on the walls there and and that that's where we've left off so far the mensah family hasn't been caught yet let's talk about charles manson all right so manson um his sort of mixed up on what you want to believe because a lot of the information about his life came from him and anyone who knows anything about charles manson knows that he had a a tendency to overstate things uh certainly lie about things about what we do know is that he was born in nineteen thirty four to a to a teen mom and dad and the dad basically um would not assume any paternity irresponsibility more sort of split his name was colonel is actual name was colonel ann he convinced people that he was an army colonel uh even though he was not so he was just never on the scene at all and um he ended up taken a manson from his stepfather who you know his his mom marriage he was an alcoholic may have been a prostitute she was in and out of a jail for most of her life and uh or most of his young life and it was just you know a truly bad scene for a young charles manson.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

Hollywood And Crime

02:14 min | 4 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime

"It was four seventeen in the afternoon when the grand jury began its deliberations it took them only twenty minutes to reach their conclusion charles manson tex watson susan atkins and linda kosabe yin were indicted on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder leslie van houten who had been present only at the law bianca c was indicted on two counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder four months after the murders that had shaken hollywood and the country to its foundation formal charges have been brought against the five suspected killers sir jerry him often supplements is music teacher income by dealing drugs to his to pangi canyon neighbors one recent transaction involves a thousand tabs of meskel in that fela musician bobby beausoleil deliveries to the straight satan motorcycle club acting as a gobetween for henman when the bikers tell bobby the product is substandard and demand their money back charlie season opportunity he tells bobby to take mary brunner and susan atkins over to henman's place they are to demand not only the thousand dollars owed the straits satan's but the money charlie needs to fund his death valley operation when bobby calls a little later charlie isn't happy with what he hears gary refused so bobby beat him until he signed over ownership of his two cars that might cover what he owes the straight satan's but does nothing to satisfy charlie perceiving yet another betrayal charlie rides over to him men's brandishing a twenty in soared he demands that gerry turnover everything he owns to the family when henman protests that he has nothing more to give charlie slashes them across the face with the sword partially severing his ear henman begs for merson reminding charlie that he's always been a good friend to the family.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

02:04 min | 4 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"When the different teams compared notes there were several discrepancies danny decarlo had maintained that no women had gone along on the murder spree while susan had claim that she and two other girls a katie and a linda were ats yellow dry atkins had also talked about stabbing gary henman though bobby beausoleil had boasted to decarlo that he had killed the music teacher the details of who had been at which murder scene were still fuzzy but detectives now felt confident they knew the identity of the killers and at least one other matter was cleared up decarlo told investigators there was another charles in the family the detectives had heard of a charles montgomery from kitty loot singer and asked if that might be his last name danny said it didn't sound familiar but everyone knew that guy s tax by late sixty seven mary is overjoyed the learn she's pregnant she may never be able to contain charlie spirits but she will always have this part of charlie tells have at babies are the only creatures that help you and in the new world he has set about creating children will be raised to be the free beans their meant to be with their growing family they trade the vw infernos school bus and paint hollywood production on the side the street corners indive clubs have behaved might be a place to hone your craf but if you were going to be bigger than the beatles san francisco doesn't cut it banned after banda's realized this big brother in the holding company the jefferson airplane even the grateful dead charlie knows his destiny lies four hundred miles to the south and that beckoning oasis between desert and see armed with the name of a produce.

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"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

01:43 min | 4 years ago

"bobby beausoleil" Discussed on Young Charlie by Hollywood & Crime

"From him but tapping into the same forces frankie's a force that connects everything to everything he has things to say he feels for the first time in his life and there are people who will listen music is different from earthly thing the comings and goings of men like the words of the nezarim minister becoming more than just words he remembers feeling it even when he was sitting at and glenda's piano little legs dangling off the bench tiny fingers pressing on those keys in him closing his eyes and these sounds wafting up toward the heaven that grandmother nancy believed those renew and he had no opinion about facing murder charges in the death of music teacher gary henman bobby beausoleil received his trial date on september fourth bobby had been in jail for about a month since the fiat station wagon he'd been driving had broken down outside san luis obispo to highway patrol men had pulled up and win the check the license plates they discovered the car was registered to the two panga canyon murder victim a quick examination of the fiat turned up a bloody knife hidden in the wheel well bobby was arrested and the la county sheriff's department was notified detectives home whiteley and charles guenther working on the henman investigation drove up to interview the prisoner bobby told them he'd recently purchased the car from a black guy when the detective's informed him that his fingerprints matched a bloody thumbprint found at the scene of the crime he changed his story now he claimed.

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