35 Burst results for "Bob Muller"

"bob muller" Discussed on Game of Crimes

Game of Crimes

07:44 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on Game of Crimes

"I I the first thing i did was talk to lieutenant perkins now earl worked in a fusion center at his job was to recover video at homicide. Seems that was one of the main functions. He was performing at that time. And i said listen here. I want you to grab a trooper in an fbi agent. And i want you to hit every restaurant every store everything around here. It's not to download the The the video information that we f- that's going to solve the case. And he said on a commissioner and he went out started to do that And i'm happy to say that one of the first downloads. They did was the forum restaurant which really was the video that identified the tamil in the joker at good. That's that's a point. I want to kind of emphasize video on the day that this happened right but it took. But where did that video did that stay with you or did that. Go to the fbi for analysis heard the story. Well we do currently trying criminal. Investigators exactly so We started to collect video and By that time at about seven fifty or so that afternoon the fbi. Taken over the case so for second. Because i you brought up something and want folks to understand one other clear distinction to this has been work involving terrorism but there was an issue if you declared it inactive terrorism you guys were very careful about the wording. Why was that and miniature up yet. But i thought this is so important to understanding. Why words mean things even in big investigations like this right. Well i thought later that if something is designated a terrorist event A lot of insurance policies will not cover any damage that occurs result of it not only losses from the explosion but financial losses afterwards a lot of people that have business insurance if if that's the designation then you don't get your coverage so political officials are very very hesitant to to declare something like that And hurt people that that would normally be covered by insurance. Wow i never knew that till you told us that during our pre call about floods. You know you'd look in flood plains or certain stuff. But i never knew that about the terrorism stuff because now victimizes them all over again. They didn't set the bomb off and now they don't get coverage but you know we were talking now so about seven o'clock that night the fbi comes in and you'd mentioned before is that there's always this hesitation sometimes. Well the feds came in and take over but like you told us earlier you really actually welcomed the fbi to come in and head this up. What happened why were you so glad to have them on board and what happened. Starting at seven o'clock that night and we started talking about the evidence here will a few things one is. This is a massive undertaking. I had a city police of six hundred and fifty thousand people fifty square miles Would taking calls. We have the largest crime scene that we have a process that was like twenty blocks long. It had to be secured Twenty four seven We we had a a significant number of people engage in pursuit of these. Two bad guys And so the first federal of official that stepped up was the general from the national guard. And he said he. I i knew him. Tremendous guy It worked with them on a bunch of different things and he said. Do you need any troops. And i said yeah. How many get me and he said i can have. I think it was eighteen. Hundred two thousand. I can have them here by seven o'clock tonight and i started thinking about it now. You know it's it's kind of a big deal to call military into city. But i had those all those responsibilities and i said yeah You know general. Let's let's get them here so so he brought them in and then they were the ones that secured the the crime scene forest. So that we could. We could go on to other things but the bottom line was it was pretty clear to me right. After i stepped on the ground this was a terrorist attack. Let's the only thing i could. I mean it certainly wasn't organized. Crime wasn't some bad guy that That i could see and the reason. I thought that is because it really required to people to set off two bombs at that distance away from each other so i knew that there was a conspiracy and And i thought you know i i. I'm certainly familiar with the legislation after nine eleven. So i know would go their way eventually. But they had to have internal debates and in conversations. With the attorney general eric holder called me In the command post Bob muller eric holder was the attorney. General Bob muller was the the fbi director The the vice president called back. Joe biden call me personally You know said. I can't believe this happened right after we were talking and we had that conversation and then president obama called Called the mayor so The federal government responded very quickly. But the point about the fbi is that you know i was. I was looking for all the help i can get. I is happy. They stepped up. Because i thought it was responsibility. Legisla you know not legislatively but Basically legally by that they were supposed to lead terrorist investigations. Yeah so it was just. I expected to happen But when when they did Picking up all the evidence started to go to the fbi so we had collected two days worth of video information and didn't have any capacity to look at it other than there. You know we had a. We have one computer station set up at the police department but now the stuff was going to the fbi so we sent it to them and they actually fluid down to quantico and then you know. I had when they when they were doing that. You know you have checkmark checkoffs in your head. And you say okay checklist. Fbi's handling that. We should know soon But i didn't know was they didn't have any capacity to look at video either so They turn the plane around and flew the stuff back and they said you guys are going to have to take care of this. So it was at that point. We teamed up with them and set up black falcon terminal as a It was a it was already evidence catchment site. We were laying out a evidence. They're just like you wouldn't plane crash of where different things found at the scene and then We started to set up a these computer stations. That could handle video. We had two or three of them the first couple of days. There were like a dozen of them that will go in around the clock Processing the information so took a couple of days of the of the video of washington ship back and then Being reviewed at the at the black falcon facility before i got the call on wednesday From delory in my my representative at the task force that they had found a picture of the guy. And i should get right over to. Fbi headquarters you say. Say that again. They had found a picture of the guy. This is on the the monday or wednesday thursday when they would they the voice. The president arrived. Well the out the press conference on wednesday at five pm wednesday morning okay. No would have been tuesday. No no no. There's something wrong with the timeline in the press conference that showed the video was thursday. Wasn't it see april eighteenth. Oh that's right thursday at five. Pm yeah because yeah you're right..

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

The Charlie Kirk Show

05:24 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show

"Bundle in so you guys start looking into this. And then bob muller comes onto the scene in the spring of seventeen after president trump fires komi right and paul ryan and too many republicans agreed to put muller on all under this cloud of the multi. What you're trying to tell me is the millions of dollars that hillary clinton pumped through was also maybe used to sweeten some journalists to write stories about this russia. Thing potentially right. I mean this story was so totally artificial. We got bob muller of yeah. I would go one step further. It's not even potentially it happened. Look we took sixty depositions under chairman newness under oath. They're all public now. Adam schiff didn't want him out. Rick grenell allied declassified them two years later and we put him out there online you can read the sussman deposition that i took that cited. In the durham indictment. That says he was talking to members of the media at the behest of client the client being the dnc fusion gps. Doing the same thing taking the same false sturt going to media and saying you guys got to put this story out and then. Here's the kicker hillary clinton and jake sullivan come in and tweet out information. As if they've never heard of it before and say look. President trump has a secret back channel to russia. If you remember this stuff in the fall of sixteen and they were the ones paying for it they pretending to know nothing about it and then they had a willing media. This is the stuff that mobs do literally. I mean this this monkey. It really is so. Let's now get to the present day. I kind of sets the table. You have been one of the few people that has have been bullish. Maybe i'm seeing it. Wrong on durham and kind of how this is preceding talk about the indictment of sussman. And what you think that might lead to. Yeah and let me just set the table real quick. When when i was running large scale. Conspiracies were prosecutions. Charlie these are cases. That took me two three four years to conduct and to get to an indictment. Because that's just the amount of work that it takes durham's on basically year two and he's already issued two indictments. I know that might not seem like a lot for people who aren't familiar with the criminal justice system but that's moving pretty quickly for doj not to mention. This is the biggest political scandal in us. History so he's taken his time now. Turning to the sussman indictment sussman was the lawyer for the hillary clinton campaign and the dnc. What dermot legend has died in his indictment that michael sussman lie to the fbi. Usually that's a pretty short indictment. That's a to three pager. I used to do them all the time. he wrote. A twenty seven page indictment and as you said basically laying out a mob conspiracy. He went so far so put all this information in the public view. Because i believe it's what i would've done. He knows there's more individuals involved in this conspiracy. Michelson wasn't the only player so do think this is durham. Going after the bag man to possibly get to somebody else. Is this part of the strategy. Yeah you don't even have to be a lawyer to figure that one out For all your viewers like you go after the easy target you go after the case you can make and then when that guy's phasing federal prison sentence of five years he's probably gonna flip and say i don't want to go to jail not for anybody not for hillary clinton or anyone. I got a family. I'm not going to prison. And that guy starts turning information against you as we say you flip up you get to the bigger fish by going up the ladder and i think. That's what a durham is building here because identified eight people. Not by name in the indictment. But i can tell you who they are In that indictment because he wants the world to know michael sussman worked with all. These people got paid by all these people and was was dishonest to the fbi. That's the kicker and the deposition he sites in the suspect indictment is the one i took of michael sussman in two thousand seventeen circle. What do you mean. He identified eight people were they were they redacted. Or what do you mean. Yeah so if you look at the indictment the practices. You don't put people's name in there if they're not charged. So it's like researcher number one media company number two on things like that generic labels lawyer number two. And i can tell you what i believe. Lawyer number two is marc elias. I believe susman's partner at the law firm who ran the entire. Dnc hillary clinton campaign stuff media company. Is i believe fusion. Gps blend simpson's operation that funneled. This nonsense by getting paid from the dnc to the media and then the research companies are are less important. What is important is what they say in the indictment and this is what the guys who did the research say they said Our information that you want us to say is true. We don't think it's true and if you say it you're basically committing a fraud. So that's how bad the so. I see this in two different categories. I see this as the hillary clinton world the sussman. And i i don't know what to expect out of that. I would hope to see glenn. Simpson held accountable but the one that terrifies me. More that i am very pessimistic is the abuse of government. Power is strong page coney or there is there anything in the indictment of show that durham is also focused on federal agents. That.

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'This Is the Stuff That Mobs Do': Blowing Hillary's Russia Collusion Conspiracy Wide Open

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:29 min | 1 year ago

'This Is the Stuff That Mobs Do': Blowing Hillary's Russia Collusion Conspiracy Wide Open

"Bob muller comes onto the scene in the spring of seventeen after president trump fires komi right and paul ryan and too many republicans agreed to put muller on all under this cloud of the multi. What you're trying to tell me is the millions of dollars that hillary clinton pumped through was also maybe used to sweeten some journalists to write stories about this russia. Thing potentially right. I mean this story was so totally artificial. We got bob muller of yeah. I would go one step further. It's not even potentially it happened. Look we took sixty depositions under chairman newness under oath. They're all public now. Adam schiff didn't want him out. Rick grenell allied declassified them two years later and we put him out there online you can read the sussman deposition that i took that cited. In the durham indictment. That says he was talking to members of the media at the behest of client the client being the dnc fusion gps. Doing the same thing taking the same false sturt going to media and saying you guys got to put this story out and then. Here's the kicker hillary clinton and jake sullivan come in and tweet out information. As if they've never heard of it before and say look. President trump has a secret back channel to russia. If you remember this stuff in the fall of sixteen and they were the ones paying for it they pretending to know nothing about it and then they had a willing media. This is the stuff that mobs do literally. I mean this this monkey. It really

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Mark Levin Show

The Mark Levin Show

02:40 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Mark Levin Show

"On the war. I believe he was signed off on is one. I have four well. I'll give you that. I'll give you a headline from cnn. This is from june. The third twenty twenty rosenstein acknowledges problems with fbi's russia probe but defends the molar appointment former deputy attorney general. Rod rosenstein said wednesday. He would not have signed off on a foreign surveillance warrant using the fbi russia investigation but he defended his appointment of former special counsel. Bob muller to investigate the russian election interference and president donald trump's associates. Well if you knew the entire thing was a hoax why did you then weaponize the fbi. Because he wanted to get rid of donald trump he wanted to. That's it this is overthrowing the will of the people. I'll say it again. Because i think it's important for your understand this take download out of it. The whole concept here is that a man won the presidency and the federal government at the highest levels. Said we don't like the will of the people so we're going to impeach him and we're gonna make up a story to do it. That's not true. That's exactly why this is a conspiracy at the highest levels with everybody involved. Go back to lindsey graham south carolina republican he even press rosenstein on whether moore should have appointed at all given that no conspiracy was ultimately found between trump's team russia quote the whole concept of the campaign that the campaign with the russians. There was there was no there there in august two thousand seventeen. Do you agree with general statement. Grandma's i agree with that. General statement. rosenstein responded but the former number two the justice department who supervised the more investigation said there was reasonable suspicion. What because you didn't like trump to investigate the probe that was properly open even if no conspiracy was ultimately found. Appointing more was the correct call. Rosenstein went on to say. I believe quote at the time senator and i still believe it was the right decision. Under the circumstances. What were the circumstances. You had something in january. The fbi knew was not credible. You doubt say that was not credible. You had to hillary clinton campaign if you wanna probable cause for look at who paid for the dossier lou financed. It was a political ponant. Rudenstine went on to say quote. I think it's important established that an independent investigation found the russia that the russian sought to interfere in the election and that no americans conspired with.

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"bob muller" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

08:42 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

"Newsrooms in america Our our liberal people and they increasingly weird on their sleeves it infects the stories. They choose detail and it taints the way they tell those stories with me. Very conspicuous bias. And so they were all in And really tragic for journalism is a whole is. They abandoned any semblance of fairness and objectivity and neutrality And they either. They relied principally on their anonymous sources without doing things like finding a separate source or independently investigating the veracity of what they ru being fed and most of their sources were simply lying to And in many cases you know the journalist jump runniice conclusions on their own by being sloppy and unethical. Or did they actually. Yeah wittingly at join into a propaganda campaign. The two books are witch hunt and the russia hoax. Check them out right now greg. Let's let's jump in with all the Materials that you have worked on so diligently that provide the backbone to Your works and you'll publications and your op ed pieces and everything you do at fox talk to us about the utility of let's talk about special counsels. Let's talk about mullah. Let's talk about the mysterious. John dharam. I don't know if he actually exists as a figment of somebody's imagination. And then i g reports. That i put them all out. I read them and they're fascinating and the detailing their rarely makes it into any media coverage from the legacy media but what is the utility of three hundred page. I drew report. On hillary clinton or russia hoax is when they seem to have zero consequence. So let let's talk about the mechanics of a bureaucracy and how we become as a hungarian. Philosophy used the phrase to describe post-communist nations after the the fall of the berlin wall where nobody was punished for. Anything have we become we becoming greg. A nation a land of no consequences in many ways. I think you're right about that. I've never been a fan of independent counsels or a special prosecutor were given carte launch and know for people who've read both my books witch hunt and the russia hoax predicted With the appointment of baller that he would find zero evidence of collusion. And i i also said wait a minute. Let's examine the facts here. There's no obstruction of justice. Under the law and i went through the fax compared to the law and drew the inexorable conclusion that too was a hoax in both turned out to be true. Let let me ask on muller. Because his tests and they're still people think he faked his doddering testimony. I don't think so. I think that man was not in control who ran the mullahs pro. Was it vaisman what it seems to me. That muller was a figurehead. What what is your conclusion as to. Who really call the shots. All i think it's true i think he was Suffering cognitive difficulties. It was readily apparent during his testimony. Afterwards look the first thing muller did when he was appointed in a he should never have been appointed as i explained the book multiple conflicts of interest that prevented him from doing so and not only that mere appointment was in violation of the special counsel but once he was appointed the first thing he did was call up andrew weissmann weisman was a guy who was hillary clinton Pretend supposed election party on election night in two thousand sixteen. We're in the end. She lost and he's a partisan and the kind of guy who hates trump so he he was appointed to basically lead the muller special counsel investigation and muller left it to weisman to handpick all of the people on the staff and they were you know ninety three percent of them were liberal trumpeting in a partisan and and yet that team composed as they were could still find no evidence of collusion between trump and russia. And we're forced to admit it in the report. But i think you're right about bob muller i mean i'm not even sure. He was acquainted with the report that was published under his name. It's clear that he he didn't know what was published under his name when his response to the questions on on capitol hill. He just simply didn't talk to us about the utility of the the south policing of bureaucracy. Is there any validity to inspector general's g reports. And what is your prediction or. Do you have any expectation that john dharam will deliver anything when it comes to the russia hoax. Well what point. I was optimistic. The durham would end up doing the right thing and crossing all the people. Identify my books as having in my judgment broken. The wall surface originally prosecutor one person who who clearly fabricated documents to implicate donald trump. but i-. Jeez i do. I do think they have great value because many of them not all but many of them have uncovered wrongdoing and illegal conduct And i think it's necessary to have a watchdog within a particular agency whether it be you know within the department of justice inclusive of the fbi are elsewhere Because you know. Our bureaucracy is so enormous there's so many people that there will be some malevolent characters who abused their positions of power for either personal or political gain. And that's certainly what we saw in the great witch hunt. The books are the witch hunt and the russia hoax. Get them. if you haven't read them you need to read them and follow this man at his website and on twitter as well great. Let since you've been doing you've been a watchdog for decades now. Can you tell us when it comes to the balance sheet of corruption Is it totally bipartisan. Or do we see more of it when a democrat is in control chairman of a committee. What what's what's the trend line being. I mean there's always enough corruption to go around on both sides of the aisle. But i think democrats demonstrably Have a greater track record of Engaging in illicit activity In in many ways because they can get away with it. They're partnered with the mainstream media and that has the ability to drive the narrative in the nation which furthers You know a certain level of corruption and so yeah. I mean you're always gonna find people of republicans democrats independents in in american politics who will breach their sacred duty of trust now and that's a shame. There is another individual. Who's a very good friend of the show. Another truth teller products alonso. He's america's mare and he's trying to uncover what happened in the last election. The left as the result is trying to destroy him. Please favor to me. If you like this show please support our good buddy rudy. Giuliani goto rudy. Giuliani freedom fund dot com. That's rudy giuliani freedom. Fund dot com. 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"bob muller" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

01:32 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

"Did say that there is ample evidence entity there is of collusion of people in the trump campaign with the russians. Loads of evidence everywhere from a man with top secret clearances. You've written two books. The russia hoax in the witch hunt. Whatever did you find of any kind of collusion on either side greg. Well zero collusion. On the part of donald trump with the kremlin would i did see was collusion among various characters in our government the author of the dossier and the hillary clinton campaign and our acolytes to frame donald trump for crimes. They made up that he never committed. Adam schiff is you just played it truly one of the most notorious liars and biggest fools in washington and among that crowd. That's saying a lot but he's head and shoulders above everybody else. I take direct. Aim at him in this little thing called witch hunt story the greatest mass delusion in american political history and he was one of the big proponents of the russia hoax. He drove in many ways. The witch hunt by lying to the american people saying he had solid evidence that trump had conspired with russians. When in fact he well knew he had no such

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"bob muller" Discussed on PM Mood

PM Mood

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on PM Mood

"An issue reports with findings and recommendations about how to fix any problems that are found. The muller investigation had a very Narrow investigative mandate all the all the letter of may seventeenth. I think it was Granted to bob muller and his team was to investigate any contacts between russians and the trump campaign and prosecute any cases that are necessary to develop that investigative mandate the the muller team did not have a broad and sweeping mandate prosecute all crimes. You find and. I think we lose sight of that and with what bob muller did was. He followed the rules that he had to abide by and that left us all frustrated. Because it's like there's a whole lot more crime out there that seems to have gone unprosecuted unaddressed uninvestigated. And if bob muller could respond he would say. Please look at the may. Seventeen letter giving me my jurisdictional marching orders. And he followed them to t- though it ended up ultimately doing a disservice to the american people in my opinion not that he followed it but the narrow mandate he was given in the first place. So this would be a wide open. No-holds-barred task force. Maybe we shouldn't call it a commission because that conjures up notions of congressional commissions. This would be a prosecutorial task force and their mandate would be investigate all potential presidential crimes and any trump associates enablers co conspirators. Who may have been involved in trump's criminal shenanigans still because this would be outside of congressional purview. Right so how would this. how would this be formed. And who would be the person or people that are able to appoint the members of this commission so that it wouldn't turn into what we have seen right now with the congressional one six commission which is just a partisan nightmare. So i think this would be.

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

07:37 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

"My lyle law offices and that bill team and i didn't hear that launch. You didn't have your window. That's not an unusual role. When i came on board the reagan white house of former ambassador. David abshir and charles brower were already serving in a role of coordinating with independent counsel. Just to make sure that all document requests were properly handle that sort of thing and Bill clinton fell. I described Stepped into that role. I think lanny davis certain extent in the clinton white house Serve that role. I mean you think of it. this way. Every day that that special counsel does not receive documents that he or she wants every day. That a witness steph arms. Some white house employees. That's a it's a day where the presence political capital is being. Frittered away Because the the existence of these investigations erodes public confidence. They erode approval ratings. and so. i think it's a very critical role. that tuykov is filling so sort of moving to to the issue of special counsels. There's been a lot of Public reports about have special counsel muller being a particularly aggressive or moving quite quickly with respect to to paul manafort or others as your counseling president in this sort of intensive investigation space. How does being confronted with something like a very aggressive special prosecutor sort of shade the device or shade. The job look me. Get the softballs right. I've known bob muller. He was deputy assistant attorney general for the civil the criminal division. When i was white house counsel have immense respect for him but he brings with him all of the dynamic flaws of a special counsel office that justice scalia in morrison bills and described You set up a officer. Seventeen highly high-powered excellent hard-nosed prosecutors to investigate a single matter and i single a small group of people it is It is dangerous. It is something you need to pay attention to one bob. Mahler and his officer under aaron the fishbowl too and they're going to be second guessed to a fair the will of whether they investigated every facet of this that That ought to be investigated. They're going to be second guessed as to whether they've turned over every grain of sand. Not whether they turn over every rock and every pebble So it's it's it really changes the dynamic It is something that is also very difficult in a white house where you have the business of the most powerful nation. The world being conducted twenty four seven time to separate out the president seeking advice from people who who don't have a privileged relationship with who are not his personal council Is is very difficult to do. And you can in. An apparently with with a bob muller wanting to see the records from air force one When the browser apparently dictated a response relating to his son is an example of that it's really hard to maintain the the requisite discipline To keep the government business from the private business separate as i should be so you mentioned sort of obviously there wasn't a special prosecutor but but i really am quite aggressive congress and that was really interested in investigating a lot of different topics. Is that so different than something. Like a special prosecutor image. Did you feel that. That same dynamic player. Is this really something kind of different. I think this is very different. My one experience with anything like what he has described was the starr investigation of president clinton in that circumstance. I didn't represent the executive branch i represented. The congressional leadership represented dick gephardt in assembling the defense team in house and i went to the and represented the senate democratic majority during the impeachment trial so my experiences from that side of it but of course we could absorb it close quarters. I think many people could see around the country dynamic that ab describes here. There's an enormous amount of pressure on the executive branch. I can't find anything to disagreeing with. Abc's about the challenge must present to the lawyers. The one the one important legal issue. Susan is executive privilege of executive privilege visited the grand jury supreme. We know we know from espn nexen Trump made your ski got the tax right in in dicta and and usb necks and the senate watergate committee case in the dc circuit. There's a very strong suggestion that the house judiciary committee sitting and impeachment sitting in impeachment trump's executive privilege on the other hand the senate watergate committee and i worked for howard baker on his senate staff when he was vice chairman of the senate. Watergate committee lost its subpoena for the watergate ticks. So the You do have certain. Executive privilege gives the white house a a defense that you don't have in these special counsel case or impeachment case i with his ab. But i think it's interesting. You water getting i. I think the winds have really shifted against the executive. I think that's a political cultural change. I think it's very difficult to go before the court with before court and And basically have the executive argue that on a matter involving the production of evidence that may be relevant to a crime that you know the privilege in effect. Trump's i mean i could be wrong about that but i think it's very very difficult. It'll be interesting to see whether any of these issues were served up. In the current administration both view in some ways had kind of easy clients in the sense that you both served under president who were really quite quite disciplined and quite concerned about Soliciting and accepting legal advice having any precedents as a client cannot cannot be easy they must all be sort of difficult plants in their own ways is the relationship we're seeing between trump and magana trump with trump and legal counsel. Is it really so unusual or no. When you're the president of the united states and your lawyer says things that you don't agree with you don't necessarily like. Is there always sort of that. That tension did you guys have those moments of feeling like god. Being the worst president is a really tough job. I was very fortunate because the president that i served was a lawyer. Not only was he lawyers a constitutional law professor. So i didn't have to labor to translate of the concerns that i had about the law in a in a language that could understand. We often took pride and this is just the way to work out this way. I'm not suggesting that every president has to be a lawyer a much less of a constitutional law professor but we took pride in being able to draft memoranda. Say about constitutional issues. We wrote them the same way. We would have written them for colleagues at the law firm or for the general counsel of a large corporation. We didn't have to go into an explanation of what it meant that there were different standards of review rational basis versus me. All of that well known to the client. The other concern that i have that i have no way of knowing..

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"bob muller" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

03:35 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"If you simply declare your election failed then you can throw your election to your republican controlled legislature and they can decide how to select the electors and cast their votes for the president This was an effort to use the justice department to provide just cover but directives to these states to throw the elections to trump. Thank goodness we. Some people have interpreted like jeffrey rosen and others who refused to play ball. I just wish they'd come clean before the new happened in december and early january and not. Not now i said that. Aren't you supposed to blow the whistle while the rape is happening or to prevent it now. Okay i'm just asking so It's interesting as a professor you know and At a you know it's the wolverines far superior to the role tides in alabama. That joyce fan you know. I concur. i'm going to say the opposite next week to her. But my point is but i just as you're talking. I started thinking like how do we teach the history of this era. It really is quite extraordinary. Legally isn't it that he was installed in office through cheating. Accepting the help of a foreign government to legally be elected in my opinion only through giant ten council obstruction of justice. Was that not prosecuted. I guess he tried to cheat ukraine to to you know to stay in office. And then he tried to overturn election when he lost. I mean it's an extraordinary legal story. Isn't it it is and let's hope it stays extraordinary. My concern is that this becomes the new normal that there are people like trump who maybe a little less clumsy about it in a little more sophisticated than he was but follows that playbook To use disinformation to bully people get a political support from a fringe groups. Who want to marginalize others finding a path to victory there by you know busting all the norms all the values that we have as a country. I think that's the goal is to make sure that this doesn't happen again and one way to do that is by deterring future. Thank you bye prosecuting. This one so quickly. Let's do this piece that you you and joyce vanson tribe growth everybody's talking about so just such great points by failing to investigate trump just to demonstrate objectivity would itself be a political decision and a grave mistake if we are to maintain our democracy and respect for the rule of law. Efforts to overturn a fair election simply cannot be tolerated. Trump's conduct must be investigated And you you say all you talk about a lot of the facts already say none of them you know. Prove a crime beyond a reasonable doubt but together. They clearly merit a criminal investigation. Which as you said we hope is ongoing already So then you talk about phone records emails memos witness testimony to obviously do the investigation. So let's talk about just quickly. 'cause i know you mentioned it. But the conspiracy charge. It's a federal crime for individuals to agree to defraud the united states. So in you said. Bob muller included again talking about the book ending of this extraordinary story. So that's one and then you said another possible charge obstruction of official unofficial proceeding. Which would be january six. Then you talk about rico which we love just because we get to play this for you. A rico charge. They would need to establish trump was associated with enterprise victim affecting interstate commerce such as the office of the presidency and committed at least two racketeering acts bra..

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Rubin Report

The Rubin Report

05:57 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Rubin Report

"You guys are all bad guys nazis. Whatever nonsense you remember when it happened. Well i mean i would probably point to november eight. Th two thousand sixteen when donald trump got elected president because we know what president trump an an individual by the way i think was did an amazing job. President did more than any than present certainly in my lifetime accomplished so much with relentless attacks from the left in in the in the democrats and the media and frankly too many republicans and still got so much done But i think it probably started then now there may be something else but the first thing that popped to mind was today he wins. Election democrats have been going after him and continue to do so now five years later and then of course there's that moment when rashida to leave the night she got sworn in saying is going to be the guy. You're a crime before the guilt right. If i'm not. I'm a simple guy. Yeah but then we also learned you think about it. We learned that the fbi was spying on a presidential campaign. Like that's not supposed to happen. In our great country a major parties political our presidential candidate. Their campaign was being spied on by the other parties. Justice department. I e the fbi. Jim komi i mean that's scary and you talk about you. Know all the misinformation. It's funny too. Because this is the other thing i'd take away from from jim sakis comet. They're the ones identifying misinformation. Well how many times have they been wrong on that over the last forty. They told us. The protesters were peaceful last summer. They told us that. Republicans defended the police. They told us the dossier was real. They told us trump colluded with russia. Bob bob muller did a thirty million dollar investigation said that's not accurate. They told us trump cleared lafayette square. for a photo op the inspector general set. That's not true. They they told us how about this. One hundred biden was russian misinformation holy cow. We had an eyewitness. Tony bob alinsky we had actual documents. The e mails. We had a laptop and we had the fbi investigating but somehow it was russia misinformation. I mean time and time again. Every major story. They told us was permission. They lied to us about it. And now they're the ones telling facebook. Oh you gotta take down misinformation. That's frightening if i could add a couple to your list brad. Kavanagh the covington kids. Jesse smell it. I mean the list. The list goes eight so as you are seeing sake say okay. We're flagging things for facebook or other one last week which was even worse in a way which was banned from one social media. You should be banned from all as if that has anything to do with her with her job is i mean. Are you shocked. Like i think i'm not shot right like i've been doing this for a while. I've been sensing learning about this stuff. But i think a certain amount of people are like you. That voted for biden because they had whatever their aversion was to trump tweet. Or whatever. But i think a certain amount of people actually are shocked right now. Like how out of control this thing feels. Yeah i think you're right dave. You're not because you follow it and you know all these issues so well And frankly most of us in an elective office who've been here a few years. We shouldn't be shocked either because we we saw the trend. We saw the irs target conservatives. We saw what the fbi did with the dossier with the trump campaign and we saw what they did with..

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

07:59 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

"Just the brookings institute alone has right not gonna be a fundamental deterrence to their behavior if you want to Attack them or impose consequences back to deter that type of behavior in the future. You need to instead focus where we're strong which often is in the financial sector. They're week to change behavior. All right. so let's talk about these indictments When you guys brought the p. l. a. indictment and for those who do not remember this was the first case where we and by we here. I mean you since. You were the Assistant attorney general for national security at the time named names of individual hackers working for foreign intelligence agencies to steal. Us intellectual property and the indictment was an uncommonly good read just as a as a matter of of prosecutorial storytelling about something. You know how this operation had happened. It was it followed A pretty amazing bit of private-sector forensic work on What has a on by the citizen lab and you know And you know other kind of private sector groups on on this particular advanced persistent threat And there was a lot of criticism of it including from my law. Fair colleague jack goldsmith which you know the nature of the criticism was. Hey you're never gonna get custody of these people you're giving up significant intelligence Secrecy in order to do this. It's not gonna change china's behavior and so other than sort of the us government thumping. It's chest what does it do. So i've been thinking about this debate in you and jack had a kind of public back and forth about this and i. I've been thinking about this a lot. Because of course you could make exactly the same criticism of bob muller for the hacking indictment and the the internet research agency social media indictment in the russia investigation case. Both of which we don't have custody over the people it's presumably not going to you know vladimir putin's not going to say. Oh my god. They've prosecuted people. I can't keep hacking people anymore so we now had a couple year. Few years of these indictments happening And the responses to them happening. And i'm interested for your thoughts on first of all. What is the history of this type of indictment so far. And what is the evidence that it does anything other than make us all feel good so i think you're right and then back up that that is where the justice department is now. They're moving full speed ahead with this approach that began with the the first public. Indication was the indictment of those five members of unit six one three nine eight a specialized unit of the people's liberation army. You can say ugly guerrilla gig by the moniker ugly gorilla there to make you Make you happy. But my favorite part of that indictment. I always think too i think Former director comey talked about china chinese economic espionage. Being so noisy it was like a guerilla going around your house in this case literally what he called him so ugly guerrilla when. Run your house so so you can draw a line from there to the justice department now continuing a strategy of figuring out who did it making it public and in seeking to us not just the criminal justice system and i'll a back up on that but but not leaving the criminal justice system off the table and instead using an all tools of government power to raise the cost. And you see that. Not just with the case. That director mueller Brought in his role a special counsel which i would argue vital to not just Whether or not we bring them before a court of law but to educating us about what the threat was and now you've seen that with a case that was moved from the special counsel to the national security division. The current deputy attorney general rod rosenstein announced a new policy at the justice department. Which said we are going to our policy. Presumption is is around september. Twenty fifth gonna make public science of election interference that we see before the election then under seal at easter district of virginia not brought by the special counsel was a case that was returned. An a complaint that said they laid out how the russians activity wasn't just in the past but charge someone with attempting to interfere in the twenty eighteen election. This is the atlanta luciano of her case. Exactly in that that strategic announcement that we're gonna make it public and then follow following through shows that they're committed to this approach and let me back up on why. That is the right thing to do. Yes so i like. I have no doubt that it exposes information. It put stuff out there. It really like i mean shows that there was this operation which has important collateral domestic political effects since the president denies the premise right. But i'm interested in it from a cybersecurity code war point of view. What does it get you so one. This is about bringing it out of the shadows one. It educates those who need to protect these systems on what the threats are by giving it in real incredible detail so when a company is trying to figure out how much to budget on putting in new systems to protect itself from cyberattack or and in twenty fourteen this was still very much the mindset needs to move from a mindset of thinking. Hey if i just get the right. it guy. i don't understand what they say. But if they just get the right guy they're gonna fix this so In keep the person out of my system changing that mindset to one that recognizes there is no government or private sector system that can keep a dedicated adversary like the second largest military in the world out of your system so you need to move more towards a risk management resilience mindset by the way a change that the government Needed to go through as well which we saw in the office of personnel management so when educating number two alpha use this example for non-lawyers you've Many lawyers who listened to your podcast but think of an easement. So this is the idea in common law that if you let someone walk across your lawn long enough they get the legal right to walk across your lawn and that's why we put up. No trespass signs won't international. Law is fundamentally a law of customary law and while we were accepting the gorilla banging around the house where everybody could tell that it was china and they were stealing and weren't even hiding their tracks. I mean they weren't even using proxies. They weren't even using service that hid their identity. Real you knew. It was coming from china when you're a company as long as we were tolerating saying nothing keeping it classified keeping an intelligence space. We were making international law. Doing nothing did something. It created international law. That said it is okay to use your military and intelligence services just like traditional.

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast

09:55 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast

"Law fair archive. This is author intern. Sarma with the podcast. From the law fair archives for july twenty fourth twenty twenty one thus far twenty twenty one has seen a number of high profile incidents in the world of cybersecurity earlier this month. The russian hacking group are evil launched debilitating ransomware attack on visa that affected businesses and organizations around the world and at the beginning of this week the us and its allies accused china of a massive cyber espionage campaign including the microsoft exchange. For today's episode from the archives. I went back to november twenty eighteen when john carlin assistant attorney general for the justice department's national security division from april twenty. Fourteen talk over twenty sixteen and the current principal. Deputy associate attorney. General sat down with law fair at during chief. Ben witness they discussed the book carlin wrote with garrett graff. Don of the code war l'affaire listeners will hear harlan discuss how the us government engages with cyber threats specifically those coming from china and russia which allows a better understanding of how the us government may respond to some of the more recent attacks john. I'm excited to talk to you about dawn of the cold war but before we turn to that. I would be remiss if i didn't start Your by your one of two people to my knowledge who has both run the national security division of jets of the justice department and served as chief of staff. Bob muller i'll do a quick correction 'cause believe there are three because ken weinstein lisa. Monaco and i also served as both chief staff to director muller and had a nascar ely. I forgot that can had also served as chief of staff to bob muller so fair enough. It's still it's still a very small group of people. And i want to ask you first of all about the mood in your former division at justice you must be in touch with a lot of people. It's difficult time for the justice department that are holding up. It's a fantastic group of prosecutors. Who are motivated by mission. Like bob muller himself and so i think there's a lot of right now discord between between parties but the folks in that division are focused on those who want to harm us as americans so when you get up in the morning and your job is to protect innocent civilians from being killed in terrorist attacks and you know the stakes of getting that right you stay motivated and similarly There was an initiative. We can talk about a little bit more later. That really springs from much of what we talk about in the book in terms of the threat. We've been seeing front in cyberspace from china. Russia north korea iran. And you look back about two weeks ago now to the initiative that the justice department announced to crack down on economic espionage until the behavior changes. That's the sort of a threat that gets those prosecutors and trial attorneys up in the morning but surely amidst the business as usual which is what you're describing in the counters counterterrorism and the counter intel. Space it is not business completely as usual when the president is you know publicly undermining the mission in important respects. And i'm you know i'm curious. What the what. The normally the intersection between the work of of of the division and the sort of public politics. Except when you have. Like edward snowden like events is pretty near zero and now it can't be near zero because you have the president out there publicly commenting on all kinds of pending matters. And so like. I'm just interested. What does it do. Yeah people are still motivated. Get up in the morning. Do their jobs but it can't have no effect on the way people think about people think about what they're doing every day. Yeah let's divide it into two things so one are the prosecutors and trial attorneys the law enforcement agents the fbi intel analysts. Are they motivated and going to do their job. No matter what type of crazy talk there is in the restive washington. Yes i believe that they are but that's different than the attacks on our institutions and the undermining of public confidence in those institutions undermining public confidence in the institutions can affect your ability to develop cooperators witnesses foreign partnerships and ultimately it's a strength of our country and one of the reasons why our country is both envied and feared by authoritarian countries. Is because we've been able to carve out a political institutions of the department of justice is the envy of the world for that reason so just like those agents and prosecutors are to protect us from terrorists and those who would harm. We need people on both party in both parties of good conscience to stand up and say it is utterly inappropriate to direct the justice department to not bring a prosecution for political purposes or vice versa. Your successor in that role as head of the national security division. Is this somebody you look at it and say this is in the bipartisan tradition of leadership of that department as it should the average listener of this podcast. Think whatever's going on at the You know between matt whitaker and and the president but with the muller investigation the national security division of the justice department is in good hands both at the career level which you've already said and at the political level yes the assistant attorney general now charged in nashville division. John moore's is someone known for a long time Dating back to law school and worked with when i was at the fbi and he served in the national security division. Under one of those other muller proteges can wayne stein and he is someone who is dedicated to protecting the national security interests of the united states and not political and if you look at the leadership below that of the national security division it has stayed almost entirely in place as it should be. And we've seen this. This'll be the third administration now where there's been a continuity because national security professionals are not driven biparti. Let's talk briefly about bob. Muller who shows up periodically throughout your book. You were his chief of staff and he has gone on to play a role very different from the role in which you served under him. How do you read from having worked very closely with him. What is your read on the state of play with with respect to the investigation. You'll ben easy good example and tell some stories about it in the in the book of not just a person who does his job with extraordinary competence and when you meet him and work with him day in and day out he someone he seems like he's sprang from the pages of history book he someone who's utterly dedicated to the mission at hand to trying to follow and solve the problems and facts and apply the law and as humility about the application of the law. So that's him just in terms of being a competent individual heading this investigation but there is also what he represents and we talked about a little bit in. There is this Increasing better to try to turn the justice department partisan he personifies and motivated people not with a great speeches though with the life that he led to dedicate themselves to a non-partisan mission oriented justice department and that dates back to his service as volunteering to go into the marines or he ended up not just risking his life but saving the lives of others. Something he by the way did not talk about is almost impossible to get him to talk about that time in his life but it had a great resonance for him his pride in the marine being marine he would talk about to his time as a career prosecutor to the legend that i knew when i went to the washington. Dc us attorney's office as aligned prosecutor. Exactly what led you to say. But it's a great. It's a great story so flesh it out. So this is someone who had risen up to Something that required senate confirmation in a presidential appointment to be the top official at the justice department in charge of all criminal prosecutions. He then left. Tried going to a private firm for a little bit. Decided he hated it. Miss the mission and went back to be able line prosecutor doing the equivalent of state and local crimes in washington. Dc to be a homicide prosecutor. Because he'd always wanted to serve In that type of that type of job. And so. When i joined the. Us trees office. Everyone knew about Bob muller who is their truck and his lip bag over to court and trying trying homicides. Let's.

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Daily Beans

The Daily Beans

01:55 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Daily Beans

"Transparency. We need information from our high government officials. And i don't think that's too much s now. It's not a number one for me. Is the insiders. Funders of the insurrection and number two for me is obstruction of justice. That even the extremely conservative. Bob muller said you could prosecute once he leaves office. He laid it out just so pretty. It's all there and there is no further investigation that needs to be conducted. Those are ready made charges for prosecution which gives me some frustration. And i'd like to know why mark merrick garland is not moving out. If there's a legitimate reason please tell us because the headlines are there. Yeah and they're in there. They're in black and white. The investigation has done. They've got additional testimony. Now from don mcgann which were the most regis obstruction of justice charges. That were laid out in volume two. They've got his testimony. I don't know if a criminal referrals been made. I haven't even heard if the inspector general is looking into this which seems to be his to move. Have the i g look at it and if something comes up maybe i'll take maybe i'll take a look but it is extremely frustrating but those are those are the two things i'll be looking out for so everybody check out justice matters glenn kirschner. I appreciate your time today. thank you everybody. stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Hello everyone. it's alison from the beans recently. I upgraded my mattress. Got my he looks midnight. It's amazing as you know. But now i want the entire amazing sleep experience and that is why. I ordered some stuff from boll and branch. Oh my gosh. I was looking for the cream of the crop. That's what bollandbranch is they started with a mission to produce the highest quality sheets on the market and make the world a better place in the process. There ultra soft organic sheets not only look and feel absolutely incredible. They're also transparently sourced and produced in safe fair conditions. That's very big for us here. Daily beans by boll and branch sheets. Look and feel amazing. The ultra refined lux fabric is a spectacular drape and a silken..

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"bob muller" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

04:59 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on Stephanie Miller's Happy Hour Podcast

"I think we are distracted. By how many crimes he has committed. I mean new york is about before he was even president. He is a lifelong criminal. So yes justice matters on every level for everything but look at this story this morning about the kremlin which looks credible that which we already knew from the mall report and the senate intelligence report. But that's is why you've said we have to at least prosecute the obstruction of justice. In that case that this book ended with treason this presidency and illegitimacy and it is. i just. Don't see how we can just say. Oh well let's just move on. I mean not as you said some say. We shouldn't prosecute from for his crimes against the united states and we the people because it will inspire his reporters to violence. You can't declined to fight for what's right for fear of how inspire those were in the wrong. Thank you thank you. Isn't that exactly yet. And i read the reporting on russia orchestrating trump's election victory and i'm like well yeah da. Let me turn to the box scores. We knew this because muller documented it in his investigation he concluded he found evidence that russia engaged in sweeping and systematic interference. to get donald trump elected. This just reinforces it from documents. That were somehow leaked from the kremlin but this we already knew. So merrick garland has got to move out. I know you don't want to be perceived as political but there's nothing political about indicting folks who committed crimes even if they happen to be politicians so if you were attorney general i wish you were. Oh did i say that part. Okay well god bless america. My point is clinton. What would you charge. And when how do you pick. I mean that's what i don't even get. There's so many crimes. what do you win. If your attorney general. I would charge every crime that i had a reasonable likelihood of success on the merits. Because that's the standard by which federal prosecutors are obliged so we have to believe that we have sufficient evidence basically to persuade a jury of guilt a reasonable likelihood of success. I sure would have started with the campaign finance violations in the conspiracy. He was in with michael cohen. Because that case has already been proved courtesy of michael collins. Guilty plea he's already individual number one. Thank you so that has already been investigated and proved. I would've brought the ten obstruction of justice. Counts that have been documented by. Bob muller why because that investigation has concluded. There's absolutely no reason to decline or delay bringing those charges and then believe me. I would turn my attention to the avoidable cova deaths because death is different and we have six hundred thousand families who lost a loved one and many of them didn't have to die. They died at the hands of donald trump. Jared kushner and mike pence plain and simple. Put me in. Front of a jury. And i will prove it. There's so many crimes that could be charged and should be charged. Is it premature to charge for everything. General milley said any insurrection on january. Sixth okay they need to continue to build the case steph..

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"bob muller" Discussed on Diane Rehm: On My Mind

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

07:02 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on Diane Rehm: On My Mind

"Here's abreast of my conversation with democratic congressman eric's wall well California he's author a endgame in the impeachments up. Donald j trump. You know in your book who write that. Donald trump with skilled at getting people. Some people to quote over. Think how did ill with him. What do you mean by that and give us some examples. Ci during the two thousand sixteen election an example i think of is that donald trump said over and over and over again that the election was going to be rigged that it would be stolen. Just he didn't twenty twenty but that the election was going to be stolen there. Were going to be millions of illegal votes in that. That was how he helped explain even after winning the electoral college. The difference between the popular vote in toro college. He had kind of laid up that argument and as we investigated what the russians had done in two thousand sixteen. It was very clear that the obama administration was hesitant to attribute russia's disinformation campaign and its efforts to help donald trump because donald trump was saying during the campaign. The election was going to be rid so it was in their head that donald trump had seated this and they were afraid that if they were to forward leaning about what russia was doing that. You would almost validate what donald trump was saying in a different way that russia was interfering in the election. May be rigged. Bob muller on. I think made the same mistake. And as he testified to the house intelligence and judiciary committees about his report he was asked. Will widen us. Subpoenaed donald trump. Why didn't you essentially cross the red lines that he had set about going into his finances or asking him about what he knew and muller said that it would have taken too long and anyone who's been involved in a white collar investigation knows that these investigations take years and muller had moved at a record clip however donald trump had said for months that this was a witch hunt it was taking too long and so donald trump had set this artificial deadline for when the investigation had to end and muller was following it and so donald trump was masterful. I think at giving very smart reasonable persons with integrity to kind of follow. You know his artificial deadlines or to take on the straw man that he would create and it always would end up benefiting him In hurting the country. How much did ukraine chambers that you know ernest. Hemingway roads in the sun also rises to characters. Were discussing how one character had gone bankrupt and the character asked the other. How did you lose all your money. And he said two ways gradually and suddenly and that's how. I felt about the first impeachment. Which was how is donald trump impeach. Well two ways gradually and suddenly there was a build up to it from what we learned in the mullahs report from what he was doing. Almost daring us to impeach him with his engagements with russia and vitamin putin and suddenly when the day after muller testified to congress july twenty five he makes us call two presidents alinsky in ukraine and recognizing joe biden is probably going to be his political opponents asks zielinski per put dirt on joe biden so once we had that evidence we thought there was no other alternative and when you saw the national security damages is i called them in the book. The seven members of the freshman class who had a national security background in the military and intelligence. Come out and say that you know that was their own redline That was the impetus for us doing that. You have filed the law suit against donald trump truly out donald trump junior and republican congressman mo brooks of alabama for their role in inciting january's x. Where does that stand are filed that lawsuit because of accountability and wanting to make sure that everyone who was principally responsible for january six was held accountable in a civil lawsuit like that one of the most difficult hurdles is what's called the motion to dismiss and it's the first motion that has to be decided essentially in the preceding and so donald trump and mo brooks are asserting that because they were holding a public office they're immune from such lawsuits their immune from being sued for disrupting the public act of counting the votes that their immune from you know intentionally inflicting emotional distress on myself and the others who were there day and so if we survived that motion to dismiss which i do believe the courts are going to find that There are acts that are well outside your official duties like when you have a political rally outside of your public office and he fire up the crowd and you spend twenty days and fifty million dollars in ads to have that crowd common. Aim them the capital that that is indeed outside of the liability protection that you have Then we would move onto what's called the discovery period so there would be depositions and evidence that we could ask of those plaintiffs and then the court would rule on what's called a summary judgment so looking at the facts most favorable to me the plaintiff should this case. Go to a jury. Typically that motion goes in favor of the plaintiff. Once you've gotten past the motion to dismiss and then it's in the hands of a jury so if we survive the motion to dismiss. I do believe this. Would you know hurdle toward a jury trial in the district of columbia. And i do hope that you we have our day in court where we can have that one truth that one version of the truth and the facts come out his attorney floyd abrams on your side. How soon do you think that particular issue.

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"bob muller" Discussed on Skullduggery

Skullduggery

06:29 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on Skullduggery

"Not to cross just because he created out of thin air and back. Baird out muller's testimony to the intelligence and judiciary committees that They recognized you. Know the pressure of time that donald trump was constantly calling it a witch hunt senate had gone on too long when most white collar investigations take years and this one had moved at a record. Clip that the most bob muller was intimidated by donald trump. I think i think the molar. I think bob muller recognized that the longer it went on work political pressure he would face and he wanted to avoid protracting the investigation with the financial investigation and subpoenas trump and trump's banks. So he didn't go that direction. So yes trump won. I don't know if he was intimidated. Or not trump won. That was that was If you follow the sean maloney questioning of bob muller about why didn't you ask from testify. Essentially biden go after finances. Muller acknowledged along. It have taken to fight that in the court and so that was You know point to trump because who the hell michael who the hell cares if it takes too long right like you. Just do it like if it was any other white collar criminal you just fight them in the courts and then you get the bob muller in his day as fbi director. for years. i don't think with a back down. If he thought he was so much. Respect for crucially wanna give michael. I don't wanna give equivalence between bob muller donald trump because bob muller was a hero on the battlefield secure at the fbi. He's a national treasure. I'm just saying on that on that match. The point went to trump. And i think that was a loss for what we have learned about the finances. One final question as you. Look back on the to impeachments. Is there anything that you would have done differently. I think impeaching bar. I wish i would have been more vocal about impeaching bill bar. I think that may have slowed. Donald trump down. If if we took his attorney general you know who he thought was one of the best Weapons someone who weaponized justice department if we took him off the field or at least subjected him to an impeachment trial for his conduct. I i wish i had been louder about that. At the end bar stood up to trump and refuse to go along with his. Stop the seal nonsense but to me to me michael. When you see that berry blunt interview that that bari's lee had it looks like he stood up the trump because they were afraid of losing. The senate i mean. That's what's so frustrating mitch. Mcconnell was concerned about that mcconnell mcconnell shrewd as the as smart as he is recognized trump was reliability because all he was talking about the steel when he needed law floor and purdue to win those early january runoff races and so i don't even know if bars stood up for the right reason appeals like he just stood up because he needed trump to shut up so that they can keep the senate. Well maybe because there is absolutely no evidence to support but trump wanted to do so amid may have been as simple as that anyway. I want to thank you for joining us once again. Or i the podcast and thank you guys for asking the tough questions i wanna know. What what dinner with With sheldon adelson. Kellyanne conway and john bainer really was like what was it. Really like victoria. This was january. Twenty twenty seventeen so donald trump is sworn in a lot of my constituents ashley not to go to the inauguration and i insisted that it was our job to watch the transition of power to hold him accountable. What i did not realize was that after the swearing in as a member of the house leadership a you host a lunch for the new president and vice president and so i'm going to table assignment like you're you know you're at a wedding. Have the ceremony nightmare going to the reception. You look at your table card. And i see my table. And there's one empty seats and it's next to sheldon adelson and kellyanne conway and i just thought boy. I must have pissed speaker. Pelosi off if she as part of studying the table. And i said the kellyanne said you know kellyanne. I'm so high eric soil. I'm so sorry that you won a presidential election and your first reward. Is you have to sit next to a bay area Democrats and she wasn't amused in really didn't engage instead leaned across me for most of the conversation to talk to shelter. I guess she read bed where i landed on the congressional like i really like sheldon adelson suggestion about the phone number system at the at the white house. So maybe you can fill. In on what castro. He was complaining to her how hard it was to get hold of anyone there. And he said that he just he made every number of his business essentially sequential so if he couldn't get you know the senior. Vp who was one two three four. He could call one two three five and get the mex. You know Senior person and just go down the line and he was recommending the kellyanne that they create that type of system. I just remember her again agreeing with anything he said. Because he's mr moneybags and sheldon. I'll tell him that and she likes well. I'm i'm i'm shocked congressman swale. Well that Your first act as member of congress in that new admist june that new administration. You didn't introduce the the sheldon adelson house telephone reform anyway. Lots of lots of nuggets in garza swallows book. It's called endgame inside the impeachments of dull j trump now in paperback. And until next time. Thank you again. Thank you all right. I'll see you guys. What's new in podcasting. Here's what we love. Courtesy of cast recommends.

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show

The Dan Bongino Show

02:26 min | 1 year ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show

"We. So monaco named deputy chief of staff and counselor to fbi. Director robert mueller. Oh yeah look at that. Check this out. Look at that refugee director at the time. Robert s smaller. The third has appointed. Lisa monaco to be deputy chief of staff and counselor to the director. Monaco muller buddies remember monaco. Worked for anti weisman. Muller's pit bull on the muller special counsel remember. They worked together in the enron case. Oh he didn't know that lives lisa. Monaco should be embarrassed lisa. Monaco should be humiliated. She was a deep state spy gator. She was deeply involved with the obama administration collusion hoax. She was deeply involved with bob. Muller has a history with bob mueller lisa monaco involved in the collusion oaks in the obama. White house the spying operation on donald trump. dob bob mahler's former chief of staff of the muller special counsel. She's the one you put in charge. Are you trying to humiliate yourself. They don't care they are going to stick it right to you. Because the democrats play for keeps and republicans play for the washington post editorial column and you can never ever win that way. They are fighting. We'd glass on their gloves. And we're fighting with twenty ounce pillows on our hands know what's even more fascinating about lisa. Monaco how these people again. They all know each other. Isa monaco worked for bob mueller lisa. Monaco worked with andy weissman. Andy weissman was bob. Muller's pit bull lisa. Monica worked with kathy. Rummler president obama's lawyer in the white house on the enron staff. Remember that in the enron case weisman where they all got thoroughly rebuked. Remember that these people all know each other they stick together because they know they're all loyal to the cause and the causes. What destroying this country making it. A third world republic and weaponising the government to attack their political opponents and they all onboard little fired up. After last night's speech. I gotta get in the public last night. And whenever i give a speech at wake up the next day all fired up you know let me get to third sponsor because now i want to open that i mean this can of worms. Even you'll never believe who. Lisa monaco took the place of and who took her place. They just jump around in each other's positions here there is.

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"bob muller" Discussed on The Book Review

The Book Review

05:41 min | 2 years ago

"bob muller" Discussed on The Book Review

"Joe klein joins us now to talk about a new book. From james comey. It's called saving justice truth. Transparency and trust. Joe thanks for being here screwed to be with you. All right joe. You don't need any introduction but for those who are not familiar with. Joey is a former writer for the new yorker former columnist for time magazine author of many many books including perhaps most famously when that did not appear with his <hes> byline primary colors <hes>. And a follow up novel running meat and this week he reviews for us at james. Comey's second book so the obvious question. I have to ask i is. How does this book differ from his previous book. Well it doesn't differ very much at all actually except for one thing. He rehearses all of the confrontations he had with donald trump in both books but in the second book he places that in the context of the need for truth and transparency in government. Which i think is a valuable thing. The book is the repetition of the first book but it's not an insignificant repetition because of the the context that he now placed it so the first book higher loyalty was kind of hybrid memoir both from his earlier days as a prosecutor in the department of justice and then for his brief period at the doj under trump but it was also kind of manifesto about justice. It feels like on the surface this new book saving justice is kind of exactly the same thing. Well yeah it is. It is the same thing and it's obviously something that cody feels very strongly about. But i think you know the important thing here is his view of justice and his view of the fbi remember he was the fbi director. Whom trump fired because he allowed the russian investigation continue which resulted after he was fired in the hiring. A bob muller as special investigator but komi has a very distinctive view of justice. And i and its ecclesiastical he sees the members of the justice department all the way down to assisted. Da's out in the country as being part of a sacred priesthood sworn to absolute honesty to complete probity to conducting the business in entirely facts based and nonpartisan manner and you can see how that might conflict with donald trump right. Does he talk about what's happened at the department of justice since his departure. He doesn't talk about that all that much except to say that it has been corrupted by trump trump spent the last four years trying to make it into a partisan weapon to go after his enemies in. Kobe is appalled by that. One of the things that you do in your review is draw the distinctions between trump's view of justice and company's point of view. Is that something that komi himself dozen. The boker was that you. He doesn't to a certain extent. But i teased it out a little bit from me. The most important thing that is kind of gone overlooked about trump if anything can be said to have been overlooked is his view of the world which came out in the second debate with joe biden where he said only low. Iq refugees showed up for their refugee hearings in other words. The smart ones absconded. Only stupid people abide by the laws. Smart people get around it. Only stupid people pay off their creditors. Smart people stiffen and that is donald trump's operating philosophy and unfortunately it seems to be the operating philosophy a lot of his followers and that stands in direct contravention of commes operating philosophy. Which is you gotta tell the truth. I don't think you could find two more temperamentally opposite. People trump and komi. But what's interesting at least in the little bit of this book that i read it seems is a slight shift in tone from the last book i mean in part it seems like he's he is trying to draw contrast he opens up the book with donald trump sort of leaning back in his chair and telling him that putin showed off to him apparently about russia having the best prostitutes in the world. And he's telling that james comey. Yeah that would not go over very well. Comas is a religious catholic and <hes>. And as i said he's religious about the notion of justice and truth. I mean he tells a story about his early days as a us district attorney where he was working a drug case and he had a government informant named vinny and it turned out that they put vinnie in the witness protection program and vinnie took the opportunity to get married. The problem is that he was also married in his former life which meant he was now a bigamist which is a crime and komi says that it was his absolute responsibility. Even though the bigamy had nothing to do with the drug case in question to tell the other side the defendant's lawyers that vinnie was a bigamist. And that shows you the degree to which komi will go in the defense of the truth almost to the point of myopia. I

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James Comey and Truth in Government

The Book Review

05:41 min | 2 years ago

James Comey and Truth in Government

"Joe klein joins us now to talk about a new book. From james comey. It's called saving justice truth. Transparency and trust. Joe thanks for being here screwed to be with you. All right joe. You don't need any introduction but for those who are not familiar with. Joey is a former writer for the new yorker former columnist for time magazine author of many many books including perhaps most famously when that did not appear with his byline primary colors And a follow up novel running meat and this week he reviews for us at james. Comey's second book so the obvious question. I have to ask i is. How does this book differ from his previous book. Well it doesn't differ very much at all actually except for one thing. He rehearses all of the confrontations he had with donald trump in both books but in the second book he places that in the context of the need for truth and transparency in government. Which i think is a valuable thing. The book is the repetition of the first book but it's not an insignificant repetition because of the the context that he now placed it so the first book higher loyalty was kind of hybrid memoir both from his earlier days as a prosecutor in the department of justice and then for his brief period at the doj under trump but it was also kind of manifesto about justice. It feels like on the surface this new book saving justice is kind of exactly the same thing. Well yeah it is. It is the same thing and it's obviously something that cody feels very strongly about. But i think you know the important thing here is his view of justice and his view of the fbi remember he was the fbi director. Whom trump fired because he allowed the russian investigation continue which resulted after he was fired in the hiring. A bob muller as special investigator but komi has a very distinctive view of justice. And i and its ecclesiastical he sees the members of the justice department all the way down to assisted. Da's out in the country as being part of a sacred priesthood sworn to absolute honesty to complete probity to conducting the business in entirely facts based and nonpartisan manner and you can see how that might conflict with donald trump right. Does he talk about what's happened at the department of justice since his departure. He doesn't talk about that all that much except to say that it has been corrupted by trump trump spent the last four years trying to make it into a partisan weapon to go after his enemies in. Kobe is appalled by that. One of the things that you do in your review is draw the distinctions between trump's view of justice and company's point of view. Is that something that komi himself dozen. The boker was that you. He doesn't to a certain extent. But i teased it out a little bit from me. The most important thing that is kind of gone overlooked about trump if anything can be said to have been overlooked is his view of the world which came out in the second debate with joe biden where he said only low. Iq refugees showed up for their refugee hearings in other words. The smart ones absconded. Only stupid people abide by the laws. Smart people get around it. Only stupid people pay off their creditors. Smart people stiffen and that is donald trump's operating philosophy and unfortunately it seems to be the operating philosophy a lot of his followers and that stands in direct contravention of commes operating philosophy. Which is you gotta tell the truth. I don't think you could find two more temperamentally opposite. People trump and komi. But what's interesting at least in the little bit of this book that i read it seems is a slight shift in tone from the last book i mean in part it seems like he's he is trying to draw contrast he opens up the book with donald trump sort of leaning back in his chair and telling him that putin showed off to him apparently about russia having the best prostitutes in the world. And he's telling that james comey. Yeah that would not go over very well. Comas is a religious catholic and And as i said he's religious about the notion of justice and truth. I mean he tells a story about his early days as a us district attorney where he was working a drug case and he had a government informant named vinny and it turned out that they put vinnie in the witness protection program and vinnie took the opportunity to get married. The problem is that he was also married in his former life which meant he was now a bigamist which is a crime and komi says that it was his absolute responsibility. Even though the bigamy had nothing to do with the drug case in question to tell the other side the defendant's lawyers that vinnie was a bigamist. And that shows you the degree to which komi will go in the defense of the truth almost to the point of myopia. I

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Revisiting Criminal Obstruction of Justice in the Impeachment Inquiry

Sean Hannity

02:20 min | 3 years ago

Revisiting Criminal Obstruction of Justice in the Impeachment Inquiry

"Twenty sixteen mana for was the chairman of the trump campaign anti corruption prosecutors in Ukraine disclosed that a pro Russia Russian political party and you're more payments from manta for it from an illegal slush fund manifold resigned from the campaign two weeks later do you crazy members of parliament and press for investigations into whether the prosecutor's revelation of payment records which were first published in The New York Times it violated Ukrainian laws that in some cases prohibit prosecutors from revealing evidence before trial both lawmakers asserted that if the release of the slush fund information broke the law that it would should be reviewed as an illegal effort to influence the United States presidential election in favor of Hillary now then I would then guide the not only that court decision I would then guide the director of the FBI to January eleventh twenty seventeen and politico that's where they discuss the NC operative contractor Alexander Chilumpha meeting with the Ukrainians in the Ukrainian embassy in Washington for the purpose they say in politico hardly a right wing outlet that for the purpose of getting dirt on trump and trump associates to help Hillary Clinton and that it all backfired because they backed the wrong horse and well Donald Trump one now they're in trouble so I'm not so I'm not sure why director ray is having a problem with this but him not knowing this to me is like the equivalent of Bob Muller not knowing what fusion GPS is or not knowing that genie ray was once Clinton's attorney at the Clinton foundation and by the way and now we're gonna get lectured by the wing man for Barack Obama Eric holder he's lecturing bill Barr about who's fit and not fit to be an Attorney General I guys so when the tank for Barack Obama that he called himself all bombers wing man is now complaining that the president's Attorney General bill Barr is not independent enough you got to be kidding me former Attorney General Eric holder Billy's bar is unfit to serve as the nation's top law enforcement officer writing in The Washington Post not bad a recent controversial comments you mean the

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Former FBI lawyer and frequent Trump target Lisa Page speaks out

Pat Thurston

01:35 min | 3 years ago

Former FBI lawyer and frequent Trump target Lisa Page speaks out

"Lisa page does the name sounds familiar to you Lisa page Donald Trump brings up her name a lot and that is the reason that she is now speaking out she did an interview for the daily beast recently is the first time she has gone public actually spoken publicly about herself the way the president is treating her and what what happened between those text messages between Lisa page and Peter Strock Lisa pager Peter struck were having an affair Peter straw was an FBI agent he was somebody who was working and she was too she was an FBI it lawyer they were both working on two important investigations will miss the investigations and Hillary Clinton's emails the other was the investigation into Russian meddling in the election and specifically into the potential that members of Donald trump's campaign had been meeting with had been somehow unwillingly or willingly cooperating with Russia in Russian interference into the elections so they were the two two of the people who were involved in this Peter struck ended up on Bob Muller steam later and when Bob Muller got wind of these text messages between these two people he's all right away that this it would raise suspicions of potential bias in the investigation he didn't want that to happen he immediately pushed us struck off of the team so struck was no longer a part of Mahler's

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Democrats Stuck After Mueller Testimony

The Ben Shapiro Show

03:27 min | 3 years ago

Democrats Stuck After Mueller Testimony

"Democrats are sort of stuck between Iraq and a heart place. You spend two years telling your voters. The president trump will be ridden outta town on a rail because muller you're more shows up and it turns out that he is not solid it turns out that he is wavering it turns out that he doesn't know his own report. A Demo Republicans were basically able to establish that he was not familiar with his own stuff which means that it kind of felt like this was politically motivated and we're about have to find out in the next month whether this investigation was properly initiated and conducted Inspector General of the D._O._J.. Michael Horowitz is about to bring out a report about the beginnings of the trump Russia investigation. I'm sure that will be fascinating. Stuff is reported certainly on the Hillary investigation and was fascinating reading and pretty damning for a lot of the folks involved in all of this well Democrats are not going to let go of this and that includes the people who are most closely tied to it so Andrew McCabe who was fired from the F._B._i.. For lying to the F._B._I.. He lost his pension over it and that was because he lied to the F._B._i.. About whether he had spoken to the press with the permission of James Komi About Hillary Clinton's investigation well now Andrew McCabe is back on television suggesting it's time for Congress to pursue impeachment based on what he really can't explain not based on anything Muller said that we didn't already know for sure from my own experience at the very beginnings of this investigation we confronted some very hard choices choices that we knew would have negative repercussions on our organization on US personally and we made those choices anyway because it was our job and our duty to do so <hes> I feel strongly that that's the same position Congress's in now and they should step up to the plate and do their job. It doesn't mean that the president will be removed from office or should be removed for off from office or we'll be impeached but it is absolutely clear to me that the time has come for Congress to pursue a dedicated impeachment inquiry. This is becoming a talking point. People who are very invested in this thing are not going to let it go. It's good for trump because he can point to them. You can say listen you petty jerks. There's a full investigation. There is no recommendation of Prosecution Muller himself would not even answer whether he would prosecute me. Why in the world are we still still doing this routine? If you don't like me so much you can beat me at the ballot box by the way trump is beatable if we're all the talk about the Democrats being cast which is true right now. Trump is underwater in Ohio by four percentage points according to variables including morning consoles. He's he's underwater in Iowa now. He could still win those states. He's expected to win those states in fact against Democrat those just as popularity ratings still trump is vulnerable and yet democrats don't seem to want to run against trump. They seem to want to impeach him or at least talk about impeaching him for the purposes of smearing him as a Russian catspaw. Even though that all fell apart the other folks who were invested in this members of the media deeply invested C._N._n.. Everyday Breaking News Wolf Blitzer. We have a brand new piece of news. I work out every day and unfortunately the gym that I attend very often as C._N._N.. On and so I'm well aware of the chirons that C._N._N.. Runs every single day and the chirons for two years were about breaking news bombshell report trump's presidency over the Russia scandal explodes and then it turns out that the thing is a complete waste of time pretty much and C._N._N.. Ain't GonNa let that go because it makes them. Look bad so here on C._N._N.. Or folks yesterday trying to say listen listen listen just because Bob Muller appeared to be old and dithering doesn't mean that the underlying content isn't important guys. You're building this up because you thought that Bob Muller I was GONNA walk in like Tom Cruise in the top gun trailer and just own it and that is not the way this worked here is C._N._N..

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Former Federal Prosecutor on Mueller Testimony

Ethan Bearman

13:27 min | 3 years ago

Former Federal Prosecutor on Mueller Testimony

"Is the day after now we have the benefit of following up on the testimony of Robert Muller yesterday in the two house committees the judiciary in the intelligence committees immediately afterwards but now people have had a little bit of time to ruminate about what they heard what went on what it all meant and we have a couple of people who will be joining us this afternoon the first one I am delighted to say is Laurie Levenson Laurie Levenson is a professor of law at Loyola law school and she's also a former federal prosecutor and she joins us right now Hey Lori welcome to KGO thank you so much I'm so pleased to be with you I am pleased to have you as well I I don't know why but I didn't realize that you were a former federal prosecutor and I just think that gives you a different kind of look at what went on yesterday than those of us who are lay people especially those of us who aren't even lawyers so from the get go let's start it it out easy what did you think what was your overall impression of his testimony you know you're right I see things a little differently I think lot of people when they tuned in wanted to see the show and I was more interested in the information that we got so I so what mother many other peoples you know Bob Miller is not a great witness most lawyers are not that's not a comfortable role for him but that's not what mattered I think what was important was in the first session they were identifying four to five instances of obstruction and laying out what they believe the president and all these men did in that regard and the Republicans were using it for a totally different type of hearing they wanted this hearing to be held at the mall or investigation get started so was much more of a political show than it was but as we would say a legal proceeding I saw the hearing though before Adam ships committee a little differently for small Adam is a former federal prosecutor I had the pleasure working with him and his family just like that you know he sat out the theme that this is about this loyalty to the country and line and greed and I thought the questioning was much crisper at that point and I think Miller was giving up a little bit more than he had in the morning yeah in the morning it seemed as if a specially at the outset his questions were so limited and there were only certain areas that tended to animate him so a lot of the criticism that we heard immediately following and even into today and if you're reading newspaper articles today and especially if you tune into fox which I really try not to do that a lot of the criticism really does have to do with the performance of Robert Muller and not with the content the context of the information that was being presented what a lot of people say is that it didn't make any difference to the viewing public that most people had already taken a side on this and that based on Muller's testimony nobody is going to change their opinions you agree well I think that there is sort of this entrenchment in politics and along the parties we certainly saw that among the you know congressman who were there and they seem to just follow the pod poly it party flying but you know I am a little more optimistic I mean some of the messaging I do think that across there was and has been and continues to be tremendous Russian interference so to the extent that it gives the president stopped to acting cavalierly about his relationship with pollutants and stop saying things like well yeah I take that information again maybe that's a little bit of a step I don't think that people are going to believe that there's an exoneration but on the other hand I don't think a lot of people here so in the big steps now I don't think it moves the needle in open court and closer to impeachment in fact we may back off from it but the facts are a lot clearer having heard them from Bob Muller yeah I would have I will I want to believe this and so maybe that's the reason I say I would have work I am a member of the Judiciary Committee I would want to move forward with impeachment increase with it with the hearings not a voting right now on articles but moving forward and getting some of the other important figures from the Mahler report and others you know this doesn't have to be limited to what was disclosed in the mall report other witnesses to come in and to testify as to the corruption and the potential criminality in the high crimes and misdemeanors of the of Donald Trump wouldn't you well I think that's where they're headed I mean and I heard that during the hearing name suspect they really want don McGann to come in and testify I don't know if he's any better than Bob Muller is as a witness but I suspect he might be and he certainly had the direct contact with the president I'm here is that nobody got the president to actually provide a statement in person I think that's the biggest lacking in this entire investigation I don't disagree with you that continuing the requests for subpoenas makes sense but there's a trade off and that's what Nancy Pelosi saying she saying are we gonna lose our own people will never get the trump people but will we get lose our own people by being so busy focusing on that and not moving the needle on some real issues that need to be addressed problems out of the house out of the house they can do whatever they want to Mitch McConnell's going to kill it right and I'm you know and that's what the the patch for those who don't want to do impeachment is to say why are we going to do this when we know what's going to happen in the Senate but the outlook tournament of argument is we still don't have all the facts yet you know in my mind do you bring in more witnesses didn't have hope picks come in and don McGann but he just go for like the tax returns because if you have to pay that there are other directions all right lord let me ask you this and I'm I'm very serious about this were speaking by the way with Laurie Levenson she's a professor of law at Loyola and she's a former professor of federal prosecutor now I forget residents saying it was a so utterly important I don't remember anyway altera plunging okay you didn't mention well you're coming back here thought which is you know there was some discussion yesterday and whether he could be charged when he got out of office right and one does wonder what's happening up in New York that would be a normal jurisdiction for that to happen so you know all of this might just sort of be a way to say he's got to be held accountable when the hardest way but the way that's most important is that the coming election and it's frustrating I think that we didn't hear any of the major candidates yesterday remark on the ceiling two yeah none of whom said we second this is the guy who killed said scire Muller this is a guy who told people to lie and he's still somebody you're considering this is a guy who cozied up to the Russians welcome their information I just thought there was a huge irony when the Republicans were saying exoneration doesn't mean anything what was the president himself will interject at that so I nobody called him on the double speak they came after the hearing yeah and I I was very disappointed the democratic candidates because if they want to become president they will also be the head of the Democratic Party and so it's time for them to show that sort of leadership capability but in your comments you did remind me of what I had forgotten to say and it is important and it is bill bar bill bars the Attorney General of the United States and I suspect that he is somebody who can more readily more easily should he choose to obstruct investigations obstruct justice when it comes to president trump including those investigations are happening in federal courts outside of Washington DC how much should we be concerned about what bill bar is doing behind the scenes I am I'm actually very concerned you know when he first came into office I thought well you know he's career he is going to be loyal to doing what's right I don't have that same confidence anymore the what I'm most worried about is the investigation into the steel dossier in the beginning of the investigation I wanted to if you want to play politics he could twist that right against the Democrats and that would be much more damaging than anything that's happened up to now I think that's what they're attempting and there's another thing too and that also relates to some of what you were talking about when the president leaves office and and it Robert Muller made this clear yesterday certainly you can pursue criminal charges against him when he's no longer president except for the statute of limitations and he did not have an answer to that question the LC memo really didn't adequately address that so what does happen doesn't doesn't that by abiding by the LC terms you're assuming the president's only going to serve one term in office and otherwise if he's reelected is above the law well I think that's right I mean this all comes down to the election because I don't agree that that somehow and you told the time while he's in office if he gets a second term he's never going to be prosecuted and that's just a clear message that maybe has to go out to the public yeah I think I think that's absolutely true and I really appreciate you bringing that up listen let's get a one quick call here from one of our listeners before we go this is Lee calling from San Jose Lee welcome to KGO your own with Laurie Levenson go ahead that's wonderful I called the other day and I was very upset I read Gibbons decline and fall of the Roman Empire I could just about Roman history yeah are it and Bob and Cicero on duty right okay yes I'm scared but was just sort of had a scared chopped off are you are you we're gonna take Donald Trump to the guillotine no no well what's your question professor Levinson there's money and power yeah and and the thing is it is but err I will I used to be in touch with senator Robert Bork yes and we were we were to change letters in mail right yeah and he wrote losing America and that was when bush was president right so do you have a question for professor Levinson because I have limited time with her right now only no I understand I'm sorry it's okay I mean I I would like to respond to him yes please thank you Sir thank you Sir for realizing that what we face now is something that we've been warned about for centuries and then it comes down some of those basic values I think when Adam yes didn't get into the details but he got into what is at stake here as you mentioned before that really is what's at stake it's not about an individual prosecution it's not about an individual count it's not about about an element of the crime it's about the really big pictures and a threat to democracy so I don't mean to be overly dramatic but I think you're right on the spot I think we're being unduly dramatic at this point I mean it is turned into what some people view is a political game and the stakes as you said are so much higher than that we all need to pay attention and I do believe that Congress has to do its duty under the constitution and so do we as citizens we have to clamor for the kind of for the Congress to do its job and for the president to not be above the law and unless we do that man we set a precedent that I think it's scary you know I heard somebody that I respect tremendously yesterday he was actually in studio with me he's one of my colleagues and he said I'm opposed to impeachment Pat I'm opposed to impeach with because it overthrows the will of the people and I boggles my mind as well is it ever appropriate then because anytime you impeach an elected representative you're gonna overthrow the will of the people but there's a reason for it well you know I think that what we've learned is impeachment and politics can I like law a lot because it's a lot more certain were in really uncertain times thank you for having me on and thank you so much so it's been a pleasure talking with you eighty eighty a tennis or telephone number will come back with your telephone calls as we talk about the aftermath of the molar testimony and where do you think we go from here will the Democrats do you think by pursuing impeachment inquiry will they begin the hearings the hearings which really will allow them to get more witnesses and more information because the courts are going to be tilted toward what the Congress is asking for when what they are asking for is part and parcel of an impeachment investigation which is which is entirely within the purview of the Congress eighty eighty eight ten is the

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Attorney General William Barr says Robert Mueller asked DOJ for guidance on testimony limits

Red Eye Radio

05:48 min | 3 years ago

Attorney General William Barr says Robert Mueller asked DOJ for guidance on testimony limits

"Over in the states Mahler's five our testimony today here is the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee Jerrold Nadler no he does not have to comply with that lady doesn't work for them and that letter asks things that are there to be on the beach the power of the of the agency to ask even if he still work for them seems that nobody neither side knows what really is going on here on that particular point from Jerrold Nadler one of the new developments in the molar testimony is the fact that the story had come out where borrow the William Barr the Attorney General had sent Robert Muller a letter showing what the boundaries were of his testimony and it was assumed that bar send the letter which he did but what we found out yesterday was according to Robert Muller that it should be according to William Barr Robert Muller requested to the guidance from the department of justice Attorney General bill Barr told fox news on Tuesday but it was former special counsel Robert Muller Steen who asked the justice department to send Muller letter telling him to keep his upcoming testimony the house lawmakers within the boundaries of the public version of his Russia probe report the letter provoked criticism from Democrats you just heard some right there from Jerrold Nadler who also called it incredibly error again asked by fox news why the Monday letter was sent Barr said Muller staff as the department for guidance at his press conference Bob referring to Bob Muller Robert Muller had said this is a quote here at his press conference Bob and said that he intended to stick with the public reported not go beyond that are said in an interview and in conversations with the department his staff was reiterating that that was their position and they asked us for guidance in writing to explain or tell them what our position was so we're responded in writing the department sent the guidance that they had requested end of quote asked directly if it was mother who asked for the latter bar would plied yes the letter said by the way she should you testify the department understands the testimony regarding the work of the special counsel's office will be governed by the terms you outlined on may twenty ninth specifically that the information you discuss during your testimony appears in and does not go beyond the public version of your March twenty second two thousand nineteen report to the Attorney General or your may twenty ninth public statement end of quote speaking of fox news bar also hit back at Nadler who during a CNN interview called the letter incredibly error again for trying to instruct Mahler what to say Barr said quote he was misinformed as to the facts now that does show something it shows that Robert Muller apparently if that's the way the whole thing went down Robert Muller apparently wants that out that he can refer to over and over and over and over again wells with your request letter except the whole of the letter and say this is the official written guidance that we have gotten or you submit it if you have an opening statement you submit that with your opening statement and say requested the guidance here's a guide so we got back and then you raise it if you need it is that were Miller's going I don't know is that a possibility as to why you ask for of course it is I'm the other thing is that the reason I said that the Republicans know what's going on is because president trump on Tuesday blasted the house judiciary committee's decision to let former special counsel Robert Muller stop aid on the Russia investigation accompany him during his testimony before house lawmakers on Wednesday the skin from fox news he requested that Erin's doubly his former chief of staff and top aid be at the witness table during testimony fox news has told the intelligence committee will swear Sibley N. before sharing now will they ask him direct questions or will Mahler just referred to him if there's something that he's not clear on and therefore he will answer at that particular point I don't know from derided decision as unfair and a disgrace to our system hi a source close to Mahler told foxnews Erin simply was the deputy special counsel and had day to day oversight of the investigation conducted by the office he will accompany special counsel Mahler to Wednesday's hearing as was discussed with the committee more than a week ago Republicans have spoken out against a last minute change well they're claiming it wasn't a last minute change well they would know because of the committee was there and that agreement was made was a Republican the room word no Republicans in that room when it was done was it a week ago was that last minute so like I said can it seems to be confusion on on both

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House Democrat says support lacking for Trump impeachment inquiry

The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer

03:43 min | 3 years ago

House Democrat says support lacking for Trump impeachment inquiry

"Jerry Nadler, here in the situation room, just moments ago, telling me and I'm quoting him, now, it may very well, come to a formal impeachment inquiry. Let's get some reaction from our political and legal experts, and Gloria borger. What do you think he's, he's holding out that possibility? Very clearly, but he doesn't seem in any rush. You know, he he says it might come to that. But not so fast. I think he's in the Nancy Pelosi school here. How it'll end that is I'm gonna try and get people before my committee. He said to you. It's important that Bob Muller testifies. He thinks he's a public servant he thinks he's going to be able to get them to testify publicly because that is what they want important for the for the American public to hear what he has to say because not everyone has read the Muller report is imported out. So I think what he's saying to you is one foot in front of the other, and we're not going to be pushed into this. But first, we have to tell the story to the American public new also make clear. He wants to make sure that. There's a consensus among the democratic leadership that he and Nancy Pelosi the speaker on the same page. That's right in one of the things that he said, was at this point. There's just not the support in his caucus. Their course or this very vocal minority of folks who do one and peach man inquiry do one. I'm peach mate charges file, but they're not enough of them yet. We'll see how this goes day by day they're doing. They do seem to be louder and they do seem to be more of them. But I was just sort of struck by Jerry Nadler's basic tone. I mean, there was no sense of urgency really. If you've certainly compare him to what we hear from progressives in the folks, you really want to March and worth impeachment. He was very measured almost diffident in terms of where they stand right now in terms of this impeachment incudes interested. Bionic is nearly half of the Democrats on the judiciary committee want to begin some sort of formal impeachment proceeding, fifty nine Democrats in the house out of two hundred and thirty five want to do so, so it's not it's not happening yet. Well, and he made. They have been addressing some of their concerns by seemingly stating that what they're doing. Now is not so different from an inquiry. He said, they're just maybe a few levels of the process that would be different. If in fact, they did launch an official inquiry, but he made it seem I agree with the panel as if they are making inroads, and they are continuing to do the work that they are focusing on right now. Now what did stand out, and maybe it was just an oversight. But you specifically asked him if he was on the same page with Nancy Pelosi. He didn't say, yes, he also didn't say, no, but, but he did say, you know, if if that's what it'll take, we will get there. We're not there yet, but it didn't give you a yes or no definitive answer. Also from the legal standpoint, allure coats, would it make much of a difference in obtaining documents from the administration in getting witnesses to appear before the committee if there was a formal formal proceeding underweight as opposed to the informal employee that's going on. Well, yes, I mean the participator prosperity saying they've done their nose at it. Can. Continuously because they have to rely on the court to kind of enforce it and hope that the courts will say, there's no good legislative reason to have this and kind of dismiss it. But in reality, the impeachment inquiry, gives a great deal more power. They don't have to have legislative purpose as their basis. That is the constitutional purpose. That's there also opens the floodgates you don't have to the rule, sixty there have to think about the notions of whether or not they have to have is an oversight function alone. Is it tied enough? They need all these details for legislation. They could simply say, look the constitution guarantees the right to have oversight and accountability in the executive branch of government. We're doing just that. So it does open more avenues. But remember again, as we're all saying, this is the political process and political processes, don't have the same level of common sense, perhaps, as the judicial process going

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'I Don't Do Cover-Ups': Trump Storms Out of Meeting with Democrats

America Trends

03:25 min | 3 years ago

'I Don't Do Cover-Ups': Trump Storms Out of Meeting with Democrats

"Trending in the news that big face off between President Trump and the democratic leaders, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, again, just minutes after democratic leaders arrive at the White House for a scheduled meeting today on infrastructure, all the attending press were told. Hey, we're inviting you to the rose garden. Now no explanation as to why. Well, the mystery was soon solve turns out, President Trump was upset that the Democrats had had a meeting earlier that day to talk about impeaching him. So earlier this morning before his meeting with them off, they go, you know, he feels like stabbing him in the back or whatever. So he found out last night and had this sort of thing plan where he. He walked in and said, I'm out of here. So some sound now here's what happened. And why Trump says the investigations on him should end country. Companies are moving back in things are going well, and I said, let's have the meeting on infrastructure. We'll get that done easily. That's one of these e ones. And said of walk it in happily into a meeting. I walk into look at people that are just said that I was doing a cover up, I don't do cover up, you people know that probably better than anybody. And I was just looking at a list of some of the things that we just did more than two thousand five hundred subpoenas qualified for, and I let everybody talk, I let the White House counsel, speak for thirty hours thirty hours. I have nineteen special counsel lawyers forty FBI agents. I said, open it all up. Let them have whatever they want nearly five hundred search warrants think of that as search want to give you a search warrant before neither did I this was over five hundred search warrants and of the nineteen people that were heading up this investigation, or whatever you wanna call it with Bob Muller. They were contributors to the democrat party, most of them into Hillary Clinton. They hated President Trump. They hated him with a passion. They went to her big party after the election that turned out to be awake. Not a party was awake and they were very angry. These are the people that after two years, and forty million or thirty five million dollars. Linda being a lot more than that. By the time all the bills paid this is what happened. No collusion. No obstruction. No, nothing. They issued fifty orders authorizing use of pen registers. Think of that, though five hundred witnesses, and then I have dancy Pelosi go out and say that the president of the United States engaged in cover up down, we've had a house investigation. We have sensitive. Instigation. We have investigations like nobody's ever had before. And there's nothing we did nothing wrong. They would have loved to have said, we colluded. They would've loved it. These people were out to get

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'I Don't Do Cover-Ups': Trump Storms Out of Meeting with Democrats

America Trends

03:25 min | 3 years ago

'I Don't Do Cover-Ups': Trump Storms Out of Meeting with Democrats

"Trending in the news that big face off between President Trump and the democratic leaders, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, again, just minutes after democratic leaders arrive at the White House for a scheduled meeting today on infrastructure, all the attending press were told. Hey, we're inviting you to the rose garden. Now no explanation as to why. Well, the mystery was soon solve turns out, President Trump was upset that the Democrats had had a meeting earlier that day to talk about impeaching him. So earlier this morning before his meeting with them off, they go, you know, he feels like stabbing him in the back or whatever. So he found out last night and had this sort of thing plan where he. He walked in and said, I'm out of here. So some sound now here's what happened. And why Trump says the investigations on him should end country. Companies are moving back in things are going well, and I said, let's have the meeting on infrastructure. We'll get that done easily. That's one of these e ones. And said of walk it in happily into a meeting. I walk into look at people that are just said that I was doing a cover up, I don't do cover up, you people know that probably better than anybody. And I was just looking at a list of some of the things that we just did more than two thousand five hundred subpoenas qualified for, and I let everybody talk, I let the White House counsel, speak for thirty hours thirty hours. I have nineteen special counsel lawyers forty FBI agents. I said, open it all up. Let them have whatever they want nearly five hundred search warrants think of that as search want to give you a search warrant before neither did I this was over five hundred search warrants and of the nineteen people that were heading up this investigation, or whatever you wanna call it with Bob Muller. They were contributors to the democrat party, most of them into Hillary Clinton. They hated President Trump. They hated him with a passion. They went to her big party after the election that turned out to be awake. Not a party was awake and they were very angry. These are the people that after two years, and forty million or thirty five million dollars. Linda being a lot more than that. By the time all the bills paid this is what happened. No collusion. No obstruction. No, nothing. They issued fifty orders authorizing use of pen registers. Think of that, though five hundred witnesses, and then I have dancy Pelosi go out and say that the president of the United States engaged in cover up down, we've had a house investigation. We have sensitive. Instigation. We have investigations like nobody's ever had before. And there's nothing we did nothing wrong. They would have loved to have said, we colluded. They would've loved it. These people were out to get

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Nancy Pelosi, Robert Muller And President discussed on Markley and Van Camp

Markley and Van Camp

04:35 min | 3 years ago

Nancy Pelosi, Robert Muller And President discussed on Markley and Van Camp

"Trump, little speech today. Yeah. Not happy. Maybe some political theater going on as President Trump called off a meeting on infrastructure with Democrats barely. He told Chuck and Nancy to go pound sand until these investigations end. Well, they were supposed to have this meeting today. And then he says, I'm I supposed to feel they're talking about I'm, you know, covering stuff up there saying, I'm engaged in a cover up there, saying that potentially I need to be impeached. I mean, here's the president in this last minute rose garden announcement caught everybody off guard. It seems so I came here to do a meeting on infrastructure with Democrats. Not really thinking they wanted to do infrastructure or anything else other than investigate, and I just saw that Nancy Pelosi just before meeting made the statement that we believe that the president of the United States is engaged in a cover-up. Well, it turns out on the most, I think most of you would agree to this. I'm the most transparent president probably in the history of this country and instead of. Walk it in happily into a meeting. I walk into look at people that are just said that I was doing a cover up, I don't do cover ups, you people know that probably better than anybody. I wanna do infrastructure. I want to do it more than you wanna do. I'd be really good at that. That's what I do. But you know what? You can't do it under these circumstances. So get these phony investigations of with get the phony investigations over with quit doing this, 'cause can I work with these people when this keeps going I can understand where he's coming from because if you have if you're really trying to, to meet in the middle how can you have a conversation with somebody like that when they're saying that I mean wh-what Nancy Pelosi say this morning? Not only that he's engaged in a cover up. But I pray for the president of the United States in this whole country. Oh, gosh. When you have the melodrama going on. How are you supposed to actually try to get anything done? When you have people who are acting unreasonably at times, how are we supposed to actually come to the table and negotiate. What is this really about this is about Democrats going to Nancy saying, we got a beach, even though she said, for while this is a bad move. We should not do this, and now you have so many. Crafts, knocking down her door saying, we've got to do this. Nancy, right. And so then she comes out with her statement to fees people, and, yeah, it gets in the way of working together on pretty much anything ask you this. If you are the GOP. And if you are the Republican party is this something you welcome almost? I mean I'm not saying you open the door, but I'm saying is this the worst thing, because isn't this already one of those things that we've decided this one time. And now you want to reboot on the whole investigate. And now aren't the American people are gonna go okay enough already? Yeah. I mean can't this bite you in the tail? Absolutely. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I welcome it impeachment proceeding one. Because if there is, if there is something still somehow that wasn't uncovered by Robert Muller, we should know that. But then also because politically assuming there isn't anything else. It helps Trump, and it helps the Republican party, because they can point and look at the Democrats say even after you had one guy, who's entire existence was centered around investigating this president in Bob Muller. Right. That's all he did for two years. Didn't come up with enough to consider charging the president's apparently and Democrats want the do over it was ridiculous duty rat. Yes, exactly. I mean, here you, are you are charged with a crime. The crime is investigated your vindicated and the prosecution doesn't like the outcome and they want to retry you for the same crime, but it's because there were some very concerning things. And in fact, Robert Muller wasn't going to be the final word on everything. He just left us a roadmap. That's what Democrats are saying. But what did we know Rafter it happened? Okay. There was no collusion obstruction. Well, you may have tried but it didn't succeed. There are people to stop him. And so then you're getting into well, it was not enough for Muller to say yet, we're going to charge him with obstruction. That's up to you bar, and he knew exactly where that was going to go. So how much do you want to say? No. But he dried. Yeah. The cartoon balloon above his head. But I think as far as, you know, Democrats that may play to the base, but you got to have more than the base when you're looking at him the twenty twenty election. We'll see where the whole

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Showdown looms between Congress and attorney general over Mueller report

ABC World News This Week

03:22 min | 3 years ago

Showdown looms between Congress and attorney general over Mueller report

"It was a week of mounting tension in Washington between the Trump administration and Democrats in congress attorney general William Barr refused to testify Thursday before the House Judiciary committee in his place. An empty chair chairman Jerrold Nadler says if bar does not hand over the unredacted Muller report and its underlying evidence. The attorney general will be held in contempt of congress history will judge us for how we face this challenge. We will all be held accountable. In one way or the other. And if he does not provide this committee with the information at demands and the respect it deserves is the bars moment of accountability will come soon enough. The Justice department objected to Democrats demand that bar take questions from staff attorneys who worked for members of congress. House minority leader Kevin McCarthy defended bars absence, one time has staff question the cabinet level of oil. And that was during the impeachment hearing that same day speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi accused of committing a crime or from ABC's Mona Kosar Abdi on Capitol Hill. House speaker Nancy Pelosi says the attorney general line to congress about his handling of the Malla report. The attorney general of the United States of America was not telling the truth to the congress of the United States. That's a crime below sea. Then accused bar of now being loyal to his oath of office. But rather to the president nobody is above the law. Not the president of the United States and not the attorney General Motors are Aldi ABC news, Capitol Hill. The Justice department called Pelosi's words, reckless irresponsible and false many Democrats want the attorney general to resign are did testify about the mother report Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary committee where he faced tough questions about the Muller letter. ABC's Mary, Bruce, covered it all from the capital just hours before news. Broken Muller had complained to the attorney general about bars decision to release his own summary of the reports conclusions Muller voiced his frustration in a letter to bar on March twenty seventh writing the attorney general summary did not fully capture the context nature and substance of this offices work and conclusions. Adding there is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation, the letters its navy, and I think it was probably written by one of his staff. People Muller wrote his own summaries of the report and twice as Barda released them, but Barr refused. The two men later talked on the phone and bar insists Muller did not accuse him of misrepresenting. The report there were not taken of. Of the call. May we have those notes? No, why not. Why should you have bar new of Muller's concerns when he testified last month, but he didn't reveal them when asked about concerns from the special counsels team members of the special counsel team are frustrated at some level with limited information included in March twenty four th letter that it does not adequately accurately necessarily portray the reports findings do you know what they're referencing with that. No, I don't Democrats demanded to know why he didn't tell them about Muller's letter. You say you were not aware of concerns by answer to question. And the question was relating to unidentified members. I talked directly to Bob Muller. Not members of his team for your

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Rep. Adam Schiff: Mueller report condemns, it doesn't vindicate

Forensic Talk with Jim Campbell

00:57 sec | 3 years ago

Rep. Adam Schiff: Mueller report condemns, it doesn't vindicate

"More. Now on our top story reaction to the release of the Miller report, California, congressman democrat, Adam Schiff chair of the house Intel. L committee still floating the concept of impeachment even though the report finds no evidence of Trump Russia collusion. Here's congressman Schiff. We need to look at the full report, certainly what Bob Muller has revealed on the obstruction of Justice issue is the most concerning because that of course involves the president's own conduct his own falsehoods. The American people is efforts to get other people to tell lies is effort to deter people in cooperating with the investigation is effort to reward those who stuck to the party line and congressman Schiff continues those acts of obstruction of Justice, whether they are criminal or not are deeply alarming in the president of the United States. And it's clear the special counsel Muller wanted the congress to consider the repercussions and the consequences. It is clear the special counsel believed that no one was above the law, and that includes the president of the United States.

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Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan says Mueller report shows no collusion

News, Traffic and Weather

07:53 min | 4 years ago

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan says Mueller report shows no collusion

"President Trump down in Florida yesterday about to head to the golf course. Couple thumbs up mostly quiet though this weekend. But we're joined now by one of his top defenders in the house, the top Republican on the house oversight committee. Jim Jordan, congressman. Thank you for joining us your best morning, you're you're championships. Right there. He says the fact that there are no new indictments is not necessarily vindication for the president. You agree. Well, we got to read the report, but what I do know is to date not one bit of evidence to show any type of coordination collusion conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to influence the election, and that was the charge George when this thing started almost two years ago. The Democrats were all saying that the president of the United States work with a hostile foreign country to steal the election. And again, there's not been one bit of evidence to suggest that any of that happened. Well, there's been a fair amount of evidence that fourteen fourteen associates of Trump had over one hundred contacts with the Russians even though you're quite right. There was no charge of conspiracy. Does any of the information that's been revealed? About those contexts are about the fact that so many in the Trump world lied about those contexts concern, you well, I mean, look the central charge of of the special counsel was to see if there was conspiracy coordination or collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to impact the election as I've said that was the focus of the of the entire special counsel investigation. We've not seen any of that. And again, remember, this is Bob Muller. This was the guy the Democrats and the Repub everyone in town said this is the guy we need for the job. He is the best person we can pick. He is. He is right next to Jesus he can almost walk on water. This is the guy and he will have the definitive statement on that fundamental question. We'll see the report, but all indications are that there's not gonna be any finding of any collusion whatsoever. How about the other concern that one of the other concerns the chairmanship raise right there? The fact that President Trump might be compromised because he was pursuing that Trump Tower in Moscow during the campaign, not telling the truth about it may still be pursuing it today. Come on. I mean, look, here's what's happened. They they don't think this Muller reports going to be the bombshell, they all anticipated. It was going to be. So now, they're launching all kinds of other charges all kinds of other investigation. They bring in Michael Cohen a few weeks ago. This was their first big hearing their first star witness there. First witness of the one hundred sixteenth congress a guy who's going to prison in six weeks for lying to congress. They bring him in. And what does he do he lies again, we think at least seven times under oath in front of the congress again? So that didn't that didn't work for him. Now, what's chairman, neither do Eighty-one different letters to sixty some different individuals starting a whole new fishing expedition, this is how they operate. So if it's not the bombshell, they wanted they bring in Cullen that doesn't work that hearing is a flop then they go with chairman Nadler Eighty-one different letters sent out there. This is how the Democrats are going to operate. We just got to be used to it and understand that that's where they're gonna go. Do you stand by your vote that the country should see congress? The entire Muller report the turning Jenner was clear in his letter. A short letter Friday. There was a lot of important things. He said in there. He said he's going to consult with rod Rosenstein, he's going to consult with the special counsel, Bob Muller, and he's going to release as much as he possibly can consistent with the law. I think the Democrats should be that should be what we all want an attorney general who operates according to the law. So I'm I'm for airing on the side of transparency the whole thing released. You didn't have those qualifications in the vote. Yes, we did consistent with the law. That's what we want. And and I think the Democrats would want the same thing. But I'll tell you this, George if he's got a release all the information that I want all of it released. I want those three, oh, I want the conversations between Bruce or and Christopher Steele the guy who wrote the dossier. Glenn simpson. The guy that Clinton campaign hired to put the dossier together. I want all those conversations that Bruce or had with Glenn Simpson. Christopher Steele, those recorded those notes from the FBI I want all that. Application to be made public when they use. They use that dossier took it to a secret court didn't tell the court the Clinton campaign paid for that document didn't tell the court a foreigner. Who was who was desperate to stop Trump from being elected, president wrote, the document I wanted that information released to the breeze thing. Let's let's release it all let's be clear on that. Then. So you agree with the Democrats all the underlying documents should be released top to bottom. The Muller report should be released. We've just gone through the special counsel regulations. There's nothing in the law that precludes the attorney general from release that I'm saying that the attorney general said follow the statute. And that's what he's indicated. He's going to do in consultation with rod Rosenstein and Bob Muller. I think the Democrats should be happy with that. They said Bob Mueller was the guy that they wanted to do this investigation. Billboards Bill bars going to consult with him and decide what he can release. But if they do release everything then by golly release, it all show is application show us two three. Oh to show us the information. They gave the gang of eight the gang of eight with Adam. Mm ship was a part of that the gang of eight when they talk to them way back with about this dossier about what took place at the a court and about the start of this counterintelligence investigation show us all that information to the American people deserve we've asked for that information to be made public a long time ago because that goes to what these top people this cabal top of the FBI what they did when they launched this thing. Clear back in the summer and fall of twenty sixteen before the election, the president could order all this released on his own all of the declassified on his own. We urge him to do that. I've urged him to do to release this stuff. I just described. I sure have the stuff that Jim call me Andy McCabe. Jim Baker Lisa page. Peter Struck all this stuff that they had started with the dossier and all this stuff that they'd started initially with this investigation prior to the election. We urge him to order the release of the mullahs report is well again, that's the attorney general's call. And he's gonna do that consistent with the law saying is if the Democrats if the Democrats are gonna call for all that to be released, then they should call for everything to be asking you a different question. Now, the president has this authority. Are you asking the president to order the release of the Miller report, that's the that's the president's call? He said he wanted to be made public. He said that the other day when he was walking. I think out in front of the press. I think last Wednesday he said that. So that's that's the White House has called you mentioned the here. Michael Cohen a couple of weeks back as we know from the southern district of New York. They concluded that President Trump was individual one who directed. Michael Cohen to make those hush money payments to influence the election, essentially, directed a felony. Does that concern you, look, I I like I said Michael Cohen came in front of our committee, and he lied, we think at least seven times, that's why congressman meadows an ice in a criminal referral letter to the Justice department. We know he lied about his when he said he didn't want a job in the White House. We know that was a lie. Every every media outlet in the country had reported that is the conclusion of the southern district. Prosecutors they're the ones who said that individual one President Trump directed Michael Cohen to do this. Well, I mean, there's they have their investigation that they're doing in the southern district of New York. What I choose to focus on is the fundamental the charge of the of the special counsel was to look at collusion. We have not seen any of that. What I also know is Michael Cohen cannot be trusted any prove that when he was when he came back in front of the committee and several times lied under oath. I think the real question years will chairman Cummings. Join us in demanding that Michael Cohen be charged for perjury by the Justice department. I think he should do that. He was very clear at the start of the hearing. He said, Mr. Cohen, if you don't tell the truth, I'm going to hold you accountable, and we've seen nothing from chairman Cummings to do any of that any kind of holding him accountable at all so just to be clear the president's involvement of those payments doesn't concern you the president has had an amazing two years. He was in. He was in Ohio last Wednesday. And what I saw was people lining the street is he wrote. From the airport to the tank plant where we build the best tanks in the world. I saw people cheering him because they understand that this presence committed to fighting for the American people and getting accomplish the things he told the American people he was gonna do it was an amazing reception. He received from all kinds of folks here in the fourth district of Ohio just last

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The Mueller Report: Ball now in Attorney General's court

WBZ Afternoon News

02:03 min | 4 years ago

The Mueller Report: Ball now in Attorney General's court

"In Washington all eyes today on the Justice department once again as attorney general bar and deputy attorney general Rosenstein continue to review the special counsel Robert Muller's report on Russian interference in collusion with the Trump administration in the twentieth. Sixteen presidential election, Democrats and Republicans ally calling for the AG to make the report public to the fullest extent possible. We get the latest now from CBS is Wendy Gillette sometime today will likely learn more about what's in special counsel, Robert Muller's report. The attorney general is expected to release a summary. Democrats want the full report, the chairman of the House Judiciary committee, Representative Jerrold Nadler. I hope the department of Justice will not leave things hanging by seeking to keep things secret. He spoke on NBC, California Democratic Representative Adam Schiff says he respects the reports findings the issue of indictment of prosecution of that is Bob Mola's decision. And I have great confidence in him. He was interviewed on CBS face the nation. Republican Representative Jim Jordan on ABC. He said he's going to consult with rod Rosenstein, he's going to consult with the special counsel, Bob Muller, and he's going to release as much as he possibly can consistent with the law. I think the Democrats should be that should be what we all want an attorney general who operates according to the law. CBS news update. I'm Wendy July, Massachusetts, congressman Stephen Lynch saying he'd like to hear firsthand from the special counsel about his conclusions. And the contents of his report I would be shocked if we did not have Bob Muller, sit down the conditions of that whether whether it's public or whether it's private. And which committee she might sit before I think that's all open to debate. I know there are four or five committees in congress that would like to have shit for an interview. And then I think in fairness if there are still some underlying questions, I think probably a public hearing within at attendance as as the primary witness would be

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Impeachment Begins, Sort Of

The Erick Erickson Show

07:28 min | 4 years ago

Impeachment Begins, Sort Of

"So I think that might be Cohen will only be ineffective witness to the extent he's independently corroborated either by other testimony, meaning verbal testimony or by documents or both because he's got an awful history. Now that doesn't mean that everything he says is ally. But what it does mean is that you have to corroborate him. And I think any any prosecutor at certainly someone as careful as skilled and as objective. As Bob Muller would never use someone as Michael like Michael Cohen unless he could crop rate them. And I think in general the same thing about the folks at the southern district, and she this this is the problem here. Remember, what all the spin was on bubbler going back only two weeks ago? We don't have to go that far back Democrats were saying that in the Manafort situation and the Coen situation in the Roger stone's situation that all of Bob molars allegations have multiple corroborating witnesses. All of Bob Mueller's charges or not based on one person. But on three four or five people that Cohen himself by himself as unreliable Cohen by himself could easily be dismissed as liar saying with Roger stone, Roger stolen could be dismissed buzz Aligarh Jerome Corsi, whoever. But there are multiple people who can paint the picture multiple people filling in the billings, multiple people back in each other up through separate independent investigations. So to have built that entire case into trotted out. Michael Cohen last week for Democrats to now be saying, hey, we gotta do this ourselves. Pretty big indicator. They're not going to get what they thought from the the Bob Mueller investigation that all of their hype about the Mueller investigation really doesn't live up to it. Now. One more clip Sarah Fagin is she's a Republican right of center strategist, not a Trump fan on with George Stephanopoulos over the weekend. Only the rest of the extent to Matt's point. If there is some real they're they're in and right now, we don't have evidence of collusion. Most Americans manafort's evidence of collusion. Will you have manafort's crimes, but that doesn't necessarily extend to the president. And we'll see what the mullahs report says, but one would think after a year, plus eighteen months, we would see something if it was directly connected to the president

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Markey says Congress will fight to make Mueller report public if "sanitized" by DOJ

The Mom Show

00:39 sec | 4 years ago

Markey says Congress will fight to make Mueller report public if "sanitized" by DOJ

"I'm Mona Rivera. The Justice department is being put on notice about the special counsel report house intelligence committee chief Adam Schiff, we will obviously subpoena. The report we will bring Bob Muller into testified before congress, we will take to court if necessary and in the end, I think the department understands they're going to have to make this public shift on ABC's this week where attorney Alan Dershowitz, a Trump supporter. Agreed. It would be a mistake to keep Muller's finding secret. If his information is not released to the public, and then goes to congress to conduct the investigation. I think there'll be a question of credibility to report on Russian interference into the two thousand sixteen election is

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Roger Stone in court as Mueller probe nears conclusion

The Beat with Ari Melber

02:50 min | 4 years ago

Roger Stone in court as Mueller probe nears conclusion

"Tonight with breaking news in an open case in the Mueller probe Trump adviser, Roger stone. Just took the stand for the first time. He was just grilled by Muller prosecutor for the first time and he was rebuked silenced by federal judge. We are reporting on a truly wild day in federal court where judge Amy Berman Jackson took Trump aide Roger stone to task. There's really no other way to put it pressing him in public court proceedings on whether he was today lying to the court. And then she shut him down supersizing partial gag order into a full gag order against Donald Trump's longest-serving advisor. What does that mean? It means tonight. I can report for you. Roger stone can't say anything else in public about his case. The judge also suggesting this is the final warning and clear suggestion the next time that stone would be punished it will be with immediate jail. Todd now, Roger stone is a defendant in this Mueller probe. So these developments happening late today are obviously progress for Bob Muller, and they come in an extraordinary afternoon that revealed the legal limits on Roger stone's very well known effort to turn serious proceeding. Into a baroque theatre of the absurd. This normally voluble dirty trickster turned mournful and morose says he pled for mercy from the court while taking the stand again as I mentioned for the first time today and Winstone did leave as you see here with his freedom hanging by a thread. It was noticeable. He did not say a word in the departure. You see on your screen from the courthouse? Mark today as the official end to Roger stone's attempts to publicly attack, the Miller probe and the judge or the FBI as he did in releasing this video and going on and on about his arrest. There has been weeks of those attempts to use that footage. Well, we are now a long ways from Roger stone's antics that you may have seen on television when he was first indicted from the Nixon victory salute to holding impromptu press conferences at the courthouse. Now, let me tell you all of this obviously right now, which is big news. No matter how you slice. It is happening has Washington and the legal. And political worlds around the country buzz over whether this long-awaited Bob Muller report is coming soon. But these issues that all came to light today are a reminder that even if large parts of that probe are heading towards some sort of resolution this Roger stone case which touches on WikiLeaks and alleged potential attempts to collude it's open it is alive, and it is putting heat on the Trump world, which makes understanding today's developments, very important. So let me take you through some of them in detail. Roger stone came in today and began by telling the court, quote, I'm hurtful e sorry for my own stupidity.

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