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The King of Pirates

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The King of Pirates

"Welcome back jack for episode two hundred and nine of the ross bohlin podcasts otherwise known as rb p two. Oh nine presented by bowling media. I'm your host of course ross bohlin here with mr anthony johnson aka j on another monday. How are you sir. Hey i want to briefly continue our discussion about chance the rapper from the last episode only ooh. I don't know if we ever done like a carryover before was a couple of points that i wanted to make all right. We're one main point really yeah. I've been reading a lot of reviews and just what people are saying about the album okay and i'll just say at first i thought the whole running joke about chance loving his wife yeah the whole yeah love my why i thought that was funny at first but now looking looking back in hindsight is actually kind of starting to piss me off 'cause listen p people are really throwing shade at this album because a lot of the materials owes him talking about his wife and about his religion and his faith and just it's just a very happy album and i think kinda messed up that that's the reason why people people are so turned off by this. That's fair. That's almost like if you were to get on here on the podcast and the whole episode like we have a whole episode about you talking about your wife right and and people are just like that was the worst episode ever. You just talked about your wife and how happy you are the whole time we hear about but here's the thing with chance his he's. He's sort of <hes> outlook in energy. <hes> people get upset by that. They don't they don't but why why do people get mad at positively. Most close people are unhappy in angry i think and when they see somebody that isn't unhappy and angry and seemingly is a very are you able to express the joy they have in their life a relationship or religion or whatever it may be <hes> sometimes that can be annoying i as a as is a perennial hater. I've been a hater my whole life. I've been in active in minne- player haters balls. I get it i don't. I try not to do that anymore more obviously but i get it and it's honestly it's part of the reason that chance sometimes cannot hit for me it because like he doesn't. I don't know man. There's he's like you made the comparison to old chance right. We discussed his old albums and how it was more about like yeah. It isn't evolution of a person just going through life really absolutely and i think that's the unfair part as a but be real most of those people it's like how many of those people making fun of chance and bussing out the memes teams in doing that. I love my wife thing. How many of them you think jam the album energised trying to have like it's part of the fun of chance the rapper at this point i mean i guess you can look at it from a from a p._r. Standpoint like great promotion and marketing for him share because once you get once you get turned into a mean then like it's all it's all uphill from mandrake makes his own memes. Now i got four people employed on the drake millimeter team yeah for real. Have you listened that <hes> that compilation album by the way yeah have that was was asked a nice little surprise for me. I didn't know that was coming all those songs or at least most of them anyway have been obviously previously released like dreams money can buy the opener is like one of my all time favorite drake songs as a really good and it just never been put on an album and i guess he finally realized like armory was sitting at home counting downing stacks of money and he was like i need more of this arguably. This is some of his best work really put all put together. I mean once when you listen to it in this form cohesively yeah. It sounds really good. Isn't that a little surprising because they're all random tracks. Yeah it does feel like a pretty complete album. I liked listening to the whatever the what's the the name of thing <hes> the name of the album drop. Oh the was a care package. Yeah care package. I enjoyed care package as a whole oh more than his most recent album. It's also weird too because like you said these songs are all old so we heard the rely younger listening to it now. They kinda kind of take on a whole new meaning dude also with you especially because you're married now yeah and he talks a lot about marriage and relationships l. It's probably hard to relate to back then but now kinda hits different. You know begin stuff hitting differently like after it's been given time i watched no see or not country for old men. Excuse me also a great movie. <hes> i watch there will be blood over the weekend for probably like i don't know fifth time i've seen it but over the course of since its release i saw it in theaters when it came out at one point like a it tastes old company they took it was oil and gas company. They took us to go. See it in like a private theater at one point randomly like i've seen it at home a couple of times we own the blu blu ray the point is this i watched it and for the first time watching it a whole bunch of shit hit me differently like i kept finding myself brealey understanding the deeper meaning behind scenes and why <hes> the the main character does the things that he does why henry plain view does the things that he does yes and <hes> that was strange for me. It'd been awhile since i had one of those moments where i'm like. Damn i've progressed or age or experienced enough life or enough. Shit has happened to me. Between the last time i saw there will be blood. In this time i saw there will be blood that it took on a completely different meaning for me in almost every way play was crazy and that's how you know movies good by the way the if it continues to take on that's just that's what art is right. That's that's that's art. It's supposed to make you feel a certain thing or a certain way or learn something about yourself or other people every time you look at it or watch it or viewer enjoy it or whatever and there will be blood man and i know that movie gets made fun of a lot and it's funny. Actually when i saw it in theaters i remember leaving the theater and me and my buddy will win saw with like this is gonna sound like brag rags not well fuck that would like four's eight as there's something for sorority girls when we were data yeah when we were in college and for the record and none of us none neither of us had any <hes> luck in that in that regard there was no dating or anything that took place after the fat before girls hate them to go with you not pay them to go with his a._j. That's prostitition or escora tation. If that's a word but when we left the theater all four girls were like what was that actually ten minutes and they were like can we leave it was because it's a very weird artsy fucking. It's just it's a weird movie. These young very young be open minded going into yeah. No those movies where you just have the kind of clear clearer mind with no expectations. Watch it and for me after i finished watching it. I was like i get how that was well done and acted obviously daniel day. Lewis is one of the greatest ever do it but i don't really know what i just watched or what the point was and that's the thing. Is you know so many times removed so many years removed watching it over this this weekend. I was just like fuck. This is good and it kept hitting all these different ways from me. All that is to say it's interesting. How things change in your perspective effective can change on movies or any kind of art as you grow in life. <hes> life throws different. Shit your way as a human being. Can i just say a little personal anecdote dovan with today too often overlooked and often general managers new jersey coaches and players take the brunt of the blame when sports franchises go horribly awry but ownership. If you don't have have good ownership you have nothing when it comes to a sports franchise and look at it this way if your company has a c._e._o. Or an owner or founder whatever that makes is all the decisions right. One guy in that one guy is a mess. You companies fucked right if the head of the snake is sick. What's the rest. The body of the snake is fucked. If you don't have good ownership of your sports squad <hes> that's likely while your squad sucks if you have a great sports team. It's likely because you have good ownership. Even if you're owner is a moron many cases these billionaire sports franchise owners are or seem to be. They have the ability to make good hires. Didn't that makes them a good owner. I'm gonna give you some examples. Look at my birthplace my hometown houston texas for example. The astros are owned by jim crane and run by jeff who to two guys who've clearly what they're doing clearly wanna win who've gotten one world series ring together so far. They're chasing another this year. They're willing to take calculated risks. <hes> giving up future assets to bring in another stellar pitcher this past week that grungy to give it another shot to win again this year. The rockets now owned by tillman for tita eh run by darrow maury. They've been perennial playoff contenders. My entire life championship contenders the last couple of years. If golden state didn't exist. I'm almost positive they would have gotten one and then they went and got russell westbrook. They're putting themselves in a position to have a chance at another trophy this year maybe their first since the mid nineties and then you have the texans owned by son of former owner bob mcnair. You may remember bob for <hes> well. That's not even fair. I'm not going to say what you remember. Rebuff for. Bob did a lot of really good shit. Let me just say that. I think bob got a bad rap in the media but his son cao dude named cow who looks exactly zaki like what you think he would look like and has the mustache to go with it. He's the owner now and they don't have a g._m. By choice no g._m. G._m. and their best defensive player hasn't signed as a result jadeveon clowney floating in the wind and now they've cut their backup running back <hes> that's fine though right. You just need one more miller. He's not that old. It'll be fine in professional. Sports ownership matters to an enormous degree if your owners don't care about winning if they're just there for the money or the status of being like an n._f._l. Owner you are screwed as a sports fan. There's nothing thing you can do about it. Point is enjoy appreciate and praised praised like in a religious sense. That'd be strange. Don't build any false idols or anything weird like that. <hes> <hes> some people do please don't bill bob kraft statue in your front yard. Don't do that if you have a good owner though go spend that money on those tickets and support fort that team because you're lucky if you have to good teams in two good owners like the people of houston do at the moment for the love of god support them in shame came the bad shame. These old wealthy fucks who are ruining your sports teams for real. I'm i'm not joking. Shame these old wealthy men making horrible decisions on account of your sports franchise that you love and care for but also remember when your team sucks that's part of the fun of sports that makes me think about <hes> cleveland how they're on the down on the decline for a while but now things are looking ok really are live the cleveland browns. They're projected to like win the division and go onto the playoffs you how weird team team is stacked. I don't know if you've been following. The like op rejected the. I'll make a prediction right now. We'll do an n._f._l. Predictor the cleveland browns sounds are gonna win at least nine games this season man. I was worried you were going to go to high no no no they'll finish nine and seven okay and they'll squeak their way into the playoffs. Maybe wildcard sure they may be win the first game but then that's about as far as they go free my my i on his prediction. I think that's fair. I would look at this sort of as a year one almost for the browns now that they're bringing in odell and it just feels like i mean there's a lotta talent but it would definitely be an improvement. They'll definitely went a lot of games and it'll be a huge step up from when they're out before i would think so too. I think we can all agree on that. I i would think so too. I'm excited to watch brown this year. 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Actually the victoria's secret fashion show is canceled. So have you heard about this. No yeah the greatest show on t._v. What happened so according to them. They want to take a step back. I can kind of reevaluate the way they were doing the show and like branding and marketing and what now there might be a deeper reason that we don't know about well you know but either way like i said the greatest show on t._v. It's not going to be on t._v. This year <hes> are you a fan. Did you watch the victoria's secret fashion show. Oh i'm trying to look into the reasoning behind this. Is this related to jeffrey epstein. I'll take it is here's the thing they yeah. He has ties to this okay so the c._e._o. Of l. brands corp which i believe owns like a an affiliate abo victoria's secret secret anyway ceo les wexner has counted child sex trafficker jeffrey epstein stein whatever as a close business associate <hes> victoria's secret get fashion show model chanina shake told the pro what i'm confused anyway. It seems like it looks like there's some type of there's a reason for this. Is that what you think it would make sense. Yeah that is that is interesting. I'm going to have to look into that. Some more. I had no idea honestly it's funny because the victoria's secret fashion show as a show in general doesn't doesn't play in two thousand nine hundred anyway unless you're gonna what makes you say that it's just forty <hes> six foot tall one hundred and eight pound <hes> you know models with great tits and great ashes. It's that's not a normal women's body image. Let's bring that up because i think one of the points they made in there was alive. Critics have said that this show displays women it does in a light to where it's like. It's not unattainable beauty. Oh yeah things the way they put it if you were we're gonna women. These women are perfect. I don't typically buy into this whole narrative about like showing a bunch of beautiful women together is bad for the world because it makes other women look at those women compare themselves like if you put a whole budget on stage and they've got six packs in great bodies and huge cavs. I'm not looking at this stage but i also also get that. Everybody's different all right like maybe my self image in body issues and i've got my own set of problems that being said i get it. <hes> it doesn't really makes sense to have one body type seemingly presented as the perfect body type represented on stage in what is the grandest fashion show in the united states it every year i get it. I get how that could be perceived as <hes> an issue. It's not that i don't see it as a damn. This is a hell of a thing to lose. Oh yeah definitely dude me and my friends naive and just me and my boys like girls to we would all get together every year to watch the yes we will get a couple of twelve packs packs beer wings like an actual treated like a sporting event yeah and we watch the whole thing and it was just one of those one of those things where you just watched. It was like a social event. It was a point about it on twitter yeah. It was a point in college where like it turned into people would have victoria's secret fashion show viewing parties yeah and like the girls will wear like lingerie and shit. It's honestly pretty common taboo. No no that was the greatest night of the year. You know we used to do this last thing. I'll say about victoria's the secret before we move on <hes> when we were in college. I had like you know few different sets of roommates over the years. Some guys went to different. We lived in a house at one point within apart anyway. Point is this we had a d._v._r. Right that went from place to place like the d._v._r. Was in a house that we lived in when we moved to our next place. I took it with me. 'cause we use the same cable company sure that d._v._r. A._p._r. carried on it each three or four sets of <hes> victoria's secret fashion shows what we would do we'd we'd d._v._r. Him that night and obviously watch and and then whoever needed to watch would watch whenever they needed is is as as <hes> cranks became necessary or whatever it would sit on our d._v._r. For the course of the year but then what we'd do is we'd get home blackout drunk from the bars or like people to wear whatever over and we throw it on and let like pit bull or bruno mars or whatever fucking musical guests they had that taylor swift riana yeah we let them be our background music for the after party and you'll get a crank off no or weed or we'd mute it and play our own music and just let it sort of serve as like background eye candy for the after part oh and then get a crank call and then we'd get a crank off as a squad to like everybody in a circle called the rookie cookie so the beatles used to do it is so they made their music. Nobody ever talks not talks about that that that's the thing that was the creative i i just want to say. I just want to talk about this. Now 'cause very weird but they used to turn off the lights. They'll be together in a bedroom. They would all turn off the lights and one of them would like yell out a girl's name and they will just crank it wet yeah. It's do document man's like in the book about them. The beatles yeah wow allowed. They always shut the lights off. Just some it'll be like i don't know who is a big off time yeah and they will just all crank well to the name. That's so weird. It's very weird. Actually what i do with my friends. This is just strange. Is this just a strange coincidence. Isn't it what you did before the internet you job out female names and then you cranked into space. Excuse me i haven't amend <hes>. This is an oh yes. It is parker from last week. A city went to u._s._c. and then. I said that i was sure that was the university of southern california and i said grow go trojans. I was wrong. It's the university of south carolina. I knew the second the words came out of my nago nocco cox that there was one hundred percent chance i was wrong. Indeed go cox hashtag cox. <hes> actually yeah parker goes to that u._s._c. not the u._s._c. in california. I listen clear with this problem. Though why are there two u._s.'s. I'm still not okay with also a couple of u._t.'s out there. It really university of tennessee. You can't do that man. You pick tennessee. You gotta be something else just t. u. T. t. is what the aggies call. You t- ten sold them the taking maggie's yeah. They're very bitter people. The bitterness goes both ways just to be fair anyway. That's enough of the show in announcements amends and randomness. It's time time to get serious for a minute and it'll be our only really serious segment of the day just to four warning but it's a fucking series one and he probably was coming here it. Is i segment fuck your politics. Let me start by saying. This is the written version. <hes> what you're about to hear now is available to the public in written form. This is the audio version. I should say the audible version. It's available to the public in written form on patriot dot com slash. Josh ross bohlin podcasts for free. It's not behind the subscriber wall or the paywall or whatever and discussing. This is obviously not a good business decision. It's not a business decision getting anywhere near hot button political issues immediately presents the opportunity to permanently lose listeners or subscribers potentially sponsors as well because unfortunately that's where we're at as a country in twenty nineteen in terms of sensitivity and political correctness but some things are more important than money and are bigger than business and frankly thanks. I don't really see gun violence in the mass shooting crisis plaguing our country as a strictly political issue which is something. We mostly tried to steer away from here politics. 'cause we wanna bring you light brevity to your life that you know we wanna bring enjoyment some happiness to you day not not have to focus focus on all the seriousness and the horse shit that goes on in the political arena but i don't even see it as strictly political issue. It's a cultural issue to me first first and foremost and really i see it as a fundamental human issue even if it is spotlighted in america in the united states it is a worldwide issue and just to focus back on us here in the united states so many of us are fundamentally missing the point to a potentially really damning degree it does not matter if you have pale skin dark translucent black white brown yellow purple cream whatever fucking color you are. It does not matter. We're all americans world human beings in every single time. One of these mass shootings occurs whether we want to admit it or not we we are losing a little sliver of our freedom. Same thing applies with terrorist attacks really in aliens looking down at our dumb asses like <hes> <hes> do do they know they're all the same like we're on the same team. We're too stupid to realize it and there's a great rick and morty episode that highlights this hypocritical conundrum pretty flawlessly feeling anything towards someone based strictly on the color of their skin is strictly illogical. It doesn't even make sense and killing someone because they look differently than you is. Patently ridiculous act like yet every day. We grow grow further and further apart through systematic devices. We implemented ourselves. That's the great irony in all this. I have close friends on the far left. I mean mean very best friends who are like family to me without being blood also some actual family. I have a not who's a proud gay woman woman living in los angeles which is known bastion for for liberal nut jobs and she's been there for forty years or some shit. She married another proud gay woman in los angeles and shockingly. She's not a huge trump fan. I also have close friends on the far right and i mean pretty far to the right not into the white supremacist area that i didn't even know fucking existed until this past five years or whatever but far to the right on the republican republican side i mean very best friends family to me and then some actual family there too in every single one of them on both sides is missing the point because you cannot be on the far left or the far right without missing the point anymore. I'm sorry you you can't it's not about your political local party. It's not about republicans or democrats or liberals or conservatives or senate seats or presidential elections. It's about human life and we are choosing politics over people in money over our fellow man and we focus on petty differences like race or your stance on foreign policy issues issues or geographical location in which you were born which is not something you choose instead of coming together in an effort to better understand each other and he'll in progress focusing on those differences and look for the record. It's not like things like foreign. Policy aren't important. It's that you can't have a sound foreign policy without first having an even remotely acceptable domestic one so fuck your politics because this is about fundamental moral morals and values in the value of human life for that matter we clearly at this point value value the wrong things we value money and power over right and wrong. We value perceived received greatness. What do people think about me. Would my social posts look like what what's my outfit. Say about my status. We care about all that shit over actual greatness. We put our own selfish interests in front of the greater good and we have truly lost our way as a result potentially actually forever. I'm not joking. I don't know if this is fixable. We may fucked up so bad that there is no going back all that should i just spoke to by the way i would just bring this up now. I was going to save it to the dan patrick lieutenant whatever i'm not even gonna say. You're fucking position that you have sir. Dan dan patrick went on tv. Yesterday i guess i don't too angry to think straight and he brought up immediately after the shooting immediately apparently after the shooting in texas he brings up video games and prayer in school video. Video games in prayer in school didn't say a fucking thing about guns. Isn't that what how sir sir. This is exactly what i'm talking about that man dan patrick in arguably to an insanely transparent degree <music> values money and power over right and wrong. He values the money he receives from his backers in the n._r._a. In sometimes by the way sometimes fam it's not money there's no paper trail. It's about votes and power. It's not always financial backing so if you like the receipts where's the buddy they sometimes it's not about money in arguing that dan patrick is not in the pocket of the n._r._a. Is simply asinine thing to do. These politicians don't give a fuck about us. They don't give a fuck about you care about them. That's a selfish man. Broken morally corrupting lost lost getting on t._v. And bringing up fuck in video games and prayer in school. You know why brought those things up. He's paid to bring those things up by lobbyists his backers supporters they don't want him pointing the finger at guns or gun companies or all the this is what i'm saying. We're we get swept up into this political horse shit instead of the part that really matters which is first and foremost getting rid of that guy how the fuck are. We supposed to get better if that dude. It's still sitting there doing that job and that should is replicated in a million seats in every fucking potential office in the country politically in every city in the in the country. We can't stop voting for terrible people. Why the fuck would we let that dude have that job when that's what he brings up that's what he brings to the table this guy who's supposed to be a leader of men and women in our community. Keep our kids safe and shit that fucking slimeball. It makes me sick it. We we lost. That's it. We have to admit it's time to start admitting in where we've made huge missteps in the past so that we can fix them in the fucking future. We have lost what is actually important in the shootings this week. Begin defend a little bit differently. Didn't they been awhile since you felt that in the pit of your stomach is scary. You're afraid and i'm afraid and we're all frayed and that's natural true. That's the problem. Fear is natural. It's a natural response to scary things but our failure to fight that that fear has fucked us because fear drives the anger fueling the hate behind all the nonsensical violence violence and suffering in our world today that's it. It's very simple. We always fear what we don't understand. Fear leads to frustration leads to anger or leads to hate which in some cases clearly leads to mass shootings and sure if you sprinkle in some mental illness with a dash of broken mental health care and at the very least would have to be defined as weird gun control laws at a national level then that certainly doesn't help things but we can't treat any of that other shit without first treating the root of the issue the fundamental flaw the baseline sickness and clearly there is a substantial lack of understanding between between us as human beings at the most basic level in whether that lack of understanding is due to inexperience with people people that come from other ethnic backgrounds or walks of life or a failure to free to think freely instead choosing to just take on the t._v. Narratives from you know quote unquote news channels that are probably financed by morally bankrupt lobbyists and applying those thoughts and feelings and takes says your own excuse me in some cases it could be a lack of education or just terrible parenting or in some cases all all of those things combined that should has to be treated before we have a chance in hell of solving the intensely complex issues plaguing our nation today if we don't start to come together if we don't find a way to actually start listening to each other's issues and differences and he'll with one another and start to pick up the pieces this slowly but surely we're fucked. I guess we can continue to keep screaming at each other and killing each other. They're over over red and blue and black and white and green and all the other codes the fucking rainbow but i would ask can we please for the love of all that is good and decent. Stop doc making this about politics. Stop immediately getting on twitter and firing off your political takes and try something new. Can we try something new a desert governmental system feel like it's making progress fixing these issues too you have these politicians ever even tried tried to pretend they have your best interests in mind that some of the dudes i'm looking at in my state never tried. They never even had to try. We didn't make them try why we didn't even make them try to lie. We just said yeah you got this. Dan patrick fucking joke. Why the fuck would we continue you to put all of our eggs in the politics and laws will fix this basket because that's not working down the line. Obviously we need good leaders. At all levels of our our political system obviously and of course we want laws in place to help combat needless violence in our society to help. Keep us safe but right now. None of these leaders in our political parties are getting us anywhere so we need to start with each other almost almost two decades of focusing on foreign terrorism since nine eleven. It's time to start looking in the mirror. We got a lot of problems right here at home. Most of them stem around race and anger and frustration and like i said fear because we don't understand each other because we don't even know each other. We don't understand each other at all. Look how divided we are lookout divided. We let these fucking people whether it's the terrorists or the fucking politicians that are sitting in these seats that are supposed to be protecting us. We letting all these people drive us further and further apart and we're feeding into. We're just doing what they want us to do. In letting it divide as even further every time something happens. It's it's it's disappointing is. It's disappointing to have to turn on your t._v. And see a guy like dan patrick. He was like smiling and shit man. People people being murdered in your state because they were hispanic because they're mexican specifically murder because they're from another country or that. They look like they could have been from another country. I'm sure the shooter didn't induce due diligence in researching each human being. He murdered because that's not the way things work look like i said we're not going to get into any further or their conversation around this today unless a._j. Has a thing he wants to say but but i just have one thing that i wanted yeah yeah. It's not even really related to that per se. It's just more more of a called a call to action really but like if you're able to do anything to help out the victims and their families then i would say please. He's do so give blood yeah. It's a big one yeah easy why the number one. We've all got blood. You can donate to the red cross honestly really if you can give someone see if you can lend someone a shoulder to cry on really have a close relationship if you live in these areas and you see the people around you that are affected acted right. Just give someone some comfort and look and peace of mind at least a little bit to some degree by just being there for them. That's a good example of like some positive action. You can take because just trying to be nicer to people today too seriously. Just be nice to strangers and try to help people and care for people and if you build that pattern up we're all the world will be a much much better places that result. We cannot all i'm not. I know i'm not presenting plan for fixing. The human issues that exist in our the world today. I'm not presenting the specific plan but i'm what i'm presenting is this. We have to try something else. Focusing on politics in hoping that republicans look into democrats are gonna fix us. This has not worked. It will never happen. This will never happen ever that. Things are not getting better in washington in our respective capitals around the world in the country andre they're getting worse. These people are lost their done. It's time to replace them with younger. People who give a shit in who actually who have have not been sucked into politics for so long. They've completely lost their original purpose in way. You know i think politicians like a._f._c. I don't know if you're familiar with alexandria cossio uh-huh cortez. I you're not real big on politics so i mean the only reason i know about is i watched your documentary on netflix. I know minimum amount about it. Yeah i watched a documentary on netflix believes called knock the house down or bring the house down or something okay but she was just. She's one of the politicians in new york. I don't know what district she's also. A female knock down the house yeah. She's also a female. She's also hispanic and i watched a documentary and it just talked about how you know. These the people obviously under represented you know in in congress in politics or whatever mel hispanics for sure so it just showed her story like shoes shoes a bartender in new york and and she just noticed you know everything that you just said everything that's going on in our world right now or in america and she decided to step up and do something about it and she you know ran for for house ran for the house the seat and she won and now she's in. She's in the house right now. She's doing a lot of just incredible things. She's real active on social media and just really trying to help out the working class and just different ethnicities different genders good for is just. It just made me think of her yeah. She's definitely one. All those politicians like. You said they're positive approach. They're pushing things in the right direction. You feel like she's doing it for the right reasons the deaf for sure. She seems it's very genuine good. We need more people like her. Every eventually the goal should be that every single person in this is unrealistic goal as many people as possible in the senate and the congress in your city council should actually care wouldn't that be something and make decisions nations for the right reasons without moral guidelines. Money cannot be our moral guideline if that hasn't been obvious for the entire existence of humans than i don't know what you're paying attention to money can't be the guideline. That's not the thing that we use our odometer for where the fuck we go or compass for life is not money you will make all of the wrong decisions visions and you will die miserable. If you go that route. We need people making decisions for the right reasons trying to help our societies neighborhoods communities to hugh grow ooh in come together and we need leadership at this fucking. I know this is very much more easily said than done and very basic as a thought at our innermost base levels and all the whole system is poisoned baby. It's not and that's not a dramatic conspiracy spiracy theory st podcast type of thing to say anymore it isn't you can still try to make it that if you want. You can try to sit there with your fucking blanket pulled over your head. Stick your head in the sand and pretend ono this is the way it's always been. It'll get better blah blah blah. These things work themselves out. They fucking don't you're just just lying to yourself and you're scared and that's why you're lying to yourself because you're fucking scared so let's all just acknowledge it. We're scared because things have gone completely out of control will. Let's try to help each other because these dudes on your tv and in washington. They are not going to save you because they don't even give a fuck about you. In most cases in a strong majority of cases we try to change that to you can stop voting for people who who aren't doing dick to help you. I'm gonna move on but that was our serious fucking spiel for the day and also one more thing can and read the entire thing at patriotair dot com slash ross bohlin podcast what's up. I think we should dedicate this episode to all of the victims and their families and everyone that was affected. Course i think go ahead and declare that pass owed dayton sure there'll be another one before the episode ends knock on wood that that isn't the case. People are gonna keep dying. People are gonna keep getting shot <hes> by by people who are incredibly misguided whether it's because of racism or hatred or anger or retaliation or response or look. It's not going to stop unless we do something to stop it. So far. We have done next to nothing. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense sense to me so let's replace the people who are choosing that option doing nothing overdoing something because they're not doing their jobs and they don't care you're about you or me or any of these people that just died the care about using tragedy as an opportunity to further put themselves in a good position to get reelected theodore make more money or receive more under the table votes or influence or power or cash or whatever the fuck the whole thing is crooked fix it fix it vote these people out dan patrick at least him please rb p. to nine is also brought to you by bespoke post host with their box of awesome bespoke post sins guys only the best stuff every month. They test everything in the box of themselves from style in grooming goods. It's to bar where got cooking tools outdoor gear. Every product gets put through the ringer before it gets put inside a monthly box of awesome two in my favorite boxes. 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This weekend was like in the last week. <hes> expressing how much they've enjoyed the show early and how how i think we got a lot of momentum going the past couple of weeks what exactly they said that they like that they enjoyed just the episodes. I guess <hes> straight up just the content. A lot of people were super psyched about the cipher p._k. Interview oh yeah for sure i mean i feel like we've just done done some good content vaguely but lot of expression of of of missing older like some of the old classic segments that we do you were animals are animals and pirates and i was like you know what in all fairness that is a completely fair criticism to me like more cowboy yeah. No we need we need our staples involved in every episode every week. We need an animal of the week every week. That's why it's called animal of the we a wikipedia so i'm gonna make sure that we start to work the look i get very excited to talk about all the things that i get to talk about and sometimes it's easy for me to forget to include the staples in in time crunches and such and thank you my my point is thank you because it really inspired me to remember what what the point is here. What i'm trying to what i wanted to do with the show was always be able to do exactly this. Go from talking mass shootings two <hes> silly pirates segment because i believe that's the show the world world needs is the ability to go from very serious topics too light hearted in funny shit that doesn't necessarily matter so much roller coaster ride. That's the way life works a lot roller coaster of emotions. Yeah you gotta be able to handle this shit so today. We're bringing back bad ass pirates. You haven't heard of in his name the one we're going with oh by the way sam w. W is the guy that got me hooked up with this pirate today. Sam thank you for the suggestion today. As bad as pirate you haven't heard of is henry every okay his last name's every which is a real bummer 'cause very intimidating no and when you're reading about him stoned. It's literally spelled e. v. e. r. y. Which looks like the the word every and so when his last name is used at the beginning of sentences of okay i see he gets really confusing the word a._m. Like every every who every what right oh every it was anyway. Point is very confused and smoke weed and research pirates unless you're equipped to do so. I'm not sometimes he was arana's. Erroneously ashley erroneous on all counts sometimes erroneously named jack avery or john avery he was in english pirate in his name was henry every every any operated in the atlantic and indian oceans in the mid sixteen ninety s. That's quite a long time ago. I can't do the math quickly. Cleveland certainly been hundreds of years. He probably you several aliases throughout his career. The other one's side from jack avery john benjamin bridgman see i like that that sounds like a pirate name. I'm playing pirate video game in the avatar pops up and says name yourself next time. I'm i'm going with benjamin bridge. Bridgman can't even say it easily <hes> he was also known as long binh to his crewmen and associates. We all know why those was hanging. We know why they call them. Long been slang in the fuck. You get the nickname long been when your actual name is henry. Every man is due. You must've been next level because you're a piece but somebody looked at it and when dude you've seen henry's cock that's been that's what we call big dicks through now on bins. That motherfucker has been on him anyway. The point is his real name is henri every he was dubbed the arch pirate and at another time. Apparently i don't know how you get two things the king of pirates that's a bold statement. Yo that's the nickname you want. Pirate yes every was infamous for being one of the few major pirate captains to escape with his loot without being arrested or killed in battle and for the being the perpetrator of what it has been called the most profitable act of piracy in history which is big. Obviously we're gonna talk about that so although every career ear as a pirate and this is what's funny pirating. It turns out not a long winded career. Most of these guys didn't go twenty years on on the high seas. You get a couple of years. It's like being a running back in the n._f._l. Then you got that yes you either get arrested or you. You find your smart enough to escape gabe into hiding which no one does every. It's like being a drug dealer right from the black plague or you die from the black plate but it's like the scarface thing like look. It's always the conundrum with illegal activities. Did you have great success and you get you and you gain great wealth as a result of that great success in that illegal enterprise. No one in the history of illegal enterprise has the wherewithal to pull allow out before it's too late literally every gangster story yes. It's like every gangster movie ever and in many cases. It's just it's so difficult the things you have to do due to get yourself into the position then prevent you from ever and also maintain that yes they prevent you from being always look over your shoulder to escape in a lot of cases your own people turn on you. It'd be your own people a._j. Sometimes every point is every career as a pirate only lasted two years snow now longtime no his exploits captured the public's imagination became obviously sort of a celebrity pirate type of motherfucker and he inspired others to take up piracy in which had to have been a point of pride for him. I believe is a pirate. That's like the best thing you can accomplish. You're such a bad ass pirate. Literally other people are like i. I wanna be a pirate. He was like the michael jordan pirates. Yes and it spawned many works of literature about him. In such a he began every he did his pirate career while he was first mate of the warship charles the second as the ship lay anchored in the northern spanish harbour of karuna the crew it grew discontented as spain failed to deliver a letter of marque and charles a seconds owners failed to pay their wages and they mutinied charles. The second was renamed. The fancy in every elected was elected by the crew as the new captain are boy every his most famous raid was on twenty five ship convoy of grand mughal gal vessels making the annual pilgrimage to mecca which is kind of fucked up but it's also kind of funny including the treasury late in this is good. This is where things really take a turn including the treasure laden ganga dow gun e sow y and its escort the fateh mohammad. The ships called ganga any human find. If you're a pirate and your pirating on the high seas out there singing yoho joe jojo pirates i for me and then i met runs up and he's like we see a vessel and you're like what's it called and he's like gone joh- you take that fucker you gotta go get that bitch be whereabout jamaican pirates and that's the one thing though you gotta in you don't know who's on there you get the telescope i you confirm the whiteness of the people on board and then you go take. It sounds like a jamaican ship. You do not wanna fuck with the yeah with a jamaican pirate ship but they will fuck you up. No joke jamaican can pirates not not the ones you wanna mess with joining forces with several pirate vessels every found himself in command of eventually a small pirate squadron <hes> they were able to capture at that raid that twenty five ship convoy the grand mughal vessels making their annual pilgrimage to mecca including the treasure laden gun joh- they were able to capture <hes> looks like up to six hundred thousand pounds in precious metals and jewels which equivalent to around in twenty nineteen eighty nine million six hundred thousand pounds so obviously that's why i was the largest pirate hall in history eighty nine million dollars as an a pirate pirating. That's a lot of l._b.'s. That's a lot made in the richest pirate in the world. It also caused considerable damage to england's fragile relations nations with the mughal who i don't even know who they are or i'm saying that correctly moguls muggles harry potter fans a combined bounty of this is funny. He's still six hundred thousand pounds right eighty nine point six million pounds in two thousand nine hundred they put a bounty of one thousand pounds on his said that doesn't make sense slightly less than the eighty nine point six million six hundred thousand six six hunt. He's still six hundred one six hundred of the amount he stole the amount. You went with for the bounty on his head anyway. Obviously that was an immense sum. At the time it was offered up by the privy council in the east india company for those who've seen pirates of the caribbean the east india trading companies inspired by the actual east india company for his capture led to the first a._j. This is the other crazy thing about our boy today henry every pirate pirate. You've never heard i haven't heard of i ever worldwide. The manhunt recorded in history. Ever oh ever was for our boy henry. Every wow yeah big so not only was he. The king of pirates not only was he <hes> at one point the wealthiest pirate in the world's richest pirate in the world with that six hundred thousand pound hall that would have been eighty nine point six million in two thousand nineteen also so the first worldwide manhunt was spawned as a result of his crimes. I fugitive yep. <hes> a number of his crew were subsequently arrested but every himself self was able to elude capture vanishing completely off the face of the earth. Nobody ever heard another thing about him again. In sixteen ninety six completely disappeared from the records. His whereabouts has activities totally unknown from there on out unconfirmed accounts state. He may have changed his name again. How many names this guy got so many to pick from. He probably changed legally too long. That was the one on the tombstone first name long last name been <hes> made his peace rest in peace may may rest in peace and in one piece forever sees me he may have changed his name and retired and then quietly lived out the rest of his life in either britain or an unidentified tropical island. I hope he chose the latter. That sounds not much better than i went to jamaica then britain he's now. He's fumble quite <hes>. The alternative accounts consider that every may have squandered his riches. There are people people who believe maybe he lost it all and then that's why we never heard amount of again. That's fucking ridiculous. That's patently. Insane should invested. He didn't blow it. He should've though stocks and bonds god. Gotta diversify you got to diversify your portfolio would tang he <hes> he's supposedly died between sixteen ninety. Nine and seven fourteen is trevor treasure. His is treasurer never recovered still out there a._j. Hey i know what we're doing for the rest of the day hunting for henry every slash long bins a never recovered treasure. There's got saying more than a day his jesuit and while i never recovered ever governed ever. That's how you win a bad ass pirates. You haven't heard a boom moving on rb to own is also brought. If you buy one of our new sponsors hellofresh it's america's number one meal kit baby hellofresh cooking delicious meals at home a reality regardless of your comfort in the kitchen from step by step recipes to premeasured ingredients. You'll have everything you need to get. Wow worthy dinners on the table in in just about thirty minutes to which is crazy. Even if you are an ignorant person in the kitchen like i am and you're afraid right now like oh god don't be even i the man who routinely eats like a six year old and who can only hashtag cook mac and cheese or so i thought i was able to conquer incredible meal from hellofresh afresh with with help from my wife last week. 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I played golf with dave this weekend. Yeah come joke extraordinaire. Yes a running joke on their show. Yeah the circling back. Guys may come jokes far far too often every time we say the word tom yeah any in any context <hes> there was a point in my life where i was obviously where we i work together with those dues every day and that became like a regular part of my life although the bit back then too yeah oh for years this has been going for years brought. This is not a new bit <hes>. This is literally like that's part of what people are missing. There is an even i think there's even some some people who like supporters their show or whatever who don't realize we've been making that joke since two thousand fifteen and two pretty much the same degree they do now. Let's funny every time yes and in varying waves it is so stupid and so funny anytime you say come <hes> i still to this day. It's a problem for me. I'll be like in the grocery store and i'll be at the pharmacists right and and they're like it's going. Could it be about twenty thirty minutes <hes> when you think you can come back to pick up your prescription and i'll be like i can what so that but that's not funny. It is funny what it's so funny and i'm never be able to to explain it better than that anyway. That is to say i played golf with dave on saturday and i feel it's been it's been in my brain all august long. You will call your grandparents trying not to make any more come jokes <hes> look. This is very important. <hes> first of all age have you called your grandparents yet so m- only grandparent that i have that still alive in my grandmother on my dad's side okay and and to be honest with you my relationship with her. Things are a little little messy really the least. I guess without getting too personal. It's a long story but i do support this movement. It's just i don't know if i'll be able to do it well. That's a good point yeah. I support it. Even i don't think i'll be able to do it in my life by support the movement because old people are very wise they give great advice and you know they just appreciate the time you know dabs dude. That's just night. Even just your grandparents. Let's just say any elderly person. Yes you run into the grocery store post office. Whatever and you jus- us casualties <unk> conversation with them that can make their entire day and honestly it's just the conversation yes and it'll probably benefit you as well and that we got hit bilad people. Obviously we've been promoting. The august is call your grandparents month on social media over the past four five days and i get a lot of people who hit me up like oh cool man. Both my grandparents are dead. Guess i'll go fuck myself and i'm like yeah you could do that. If you really want to or you could call <hes> like i mean there's a look people win. It's black history month. I don't go. Hey i'm not black. You know what i'm saying. Does that make sense. I <hes> you some things aren't about you so if your grandparents are gone or perhaps you never had any because you were born from eggs or some strange laboratory birth do. I don't know all the different ways that people come to be a store dropped up you off. That's cool man. I am sorry but also you're missing the fucking point. It's not about you. It's about the existing current grandparents that are <hes> living in in dead and need to be respected and talked about and that's what this month for exactly the reasons a._j. Sit elderly people not all of them but look if you look around you on a daily basis most of the dumb dumb idiots that you deal with our younger sure i must say somewhere between fifteen and and fifty generation z. What will you win a little bit beyond include but yes sure young people are typically dumber. Were less wise. We don't know as much we haven't don't have enough life of experience so learning yeah man perspective as a human being isn't always your fault very limited. It is like as a as a college student. There were points where hit me like oh god. I don't know anything and i get down on myself like fuck. What the fuck i need. Figure it out. That's how life works. It's slowly but surely you'll learn when you can. You become a little wiser eiser as you can. As long as you're making the effort to do the right thing if you'll be fine you'll be fine and that's sorta ties back to what we discussed earlier with where basic senseless violence of late do the right. If you make the right decisions on a daily basis we all just try a little. We'll be so much much better off your grandparents old people elderly people they've seen shit. They used to probably be dumb ass younger motherfuckers just just like you and i right. That's how life works typically. They've gotten through all the stuff that we're currently battling in some form. These issues that we face as society in two thousand nine hundred they've all existed before i was going to say in a lot of ways that originated with them and their generation had a version of each issue. We face a lot of a lot worse than what we deal with this. If you look at like the racism dude and like the whole political everything that was going only facts now alive. It was horrible and they're calm. They're comparisons and parallels in line to be drawn and lessons to be learned there and that's part of why it's so important important you talk to these people because they know shit that you sure as hell that i sure as hell do not just to speak to my personal relationship with my two three surviving grandparents actually <hes> i lost my dad's dad several years back. When i was in college. He was a great dude. I respected him. A ton still do obviously love him very much but we had special relationship different kind of relationship than i have with my other grandparents to where it wasn't super personal. It was more like respect based like i knew he was my grandpa and he was the patriarch of my family and he made sure that i saw him that way. Through the way he carried himself and that was always super important to me like i was like like okay. This guy is leading. It's not about me liking him. Although i did very much it wasn't about that though it was about leadership so you're saying about status now sort of but it was more about like i'll give you an example when i got in big trouble in college. My grandpa was a man of few words to me. You didn't say a whole lot and at one point. He sat me eric. He came into this guest room in their house and he sat me. I guess i was already sitting. He sat down. It was the first time or the only time i can remember him having a very personal one on one conversation with me where i was the only person who was addressing and he was saying something that was beyond like you old school man we the only time we spoke. It was like watching football. It'd be good run. You know what i mean yeah. He didn't say a whole lot and he sat me down and and he was like hey listen. You got e. Basically i'll give you the long the to the to london read. He was like you've got choices here. You got a great family great opportunities in front of you. You've got a great brain. <hes> in a great heart and your total piece of shit right now on your blowing it you can either continue to go that route or you can turn things around in you you can either. He was like basically he was like life is going to present you with hard decisions and choices and challenges and you're gonna have to figure out what is important to you in what you want to accomplish russian what you wanna do and then he got into the story about for me for the sake of me sort of understanding sacrifices. He had made a different point in his life. He spoke to how i think he knew how much i love my grandma like <hes> up there with with my own parents my wife my i mean she means the world to me and he wanted to tell me a story that would rela- delay what he had to do to secure my grandmother in his life to make sure that she was a part of his life moving forward a told me the story about how he basically basically busted asking college to work to be able to buy a car to be able to pay for the gas to go visit her like every weekend or whenever he could to get their relationship going and it was just super meaningful to me to have him connect with me on that level my my mom's dad my pappa is a super religious man who you know i grew up in the church and he was a big part of that but then then he also taught me how to play golf. It's not the taught me how to play golf. My mom would be upset with me and last time i spoke to this. She actually made an amend for me. My mom technically got me into golf. She's the you wanna put me in like the little p._g._a. Camps or whatever bought me my clubs and shit and she's the one who encouraged golf more than my my my dad's saw golf is like a fancy antsy dandy sport he was like you're playing baseball and soccer and basketball with the fucking man spor yeah he was like i don't know about all this and he never played golf. You didn't give a shit not that. My dad doesn't respect at golf. I don't know if he does maybe it doesn't. I won't speak for you. If you don't like golf that's fine. My papa taught me golf <hes> in in he taught me a lot other shit to but i'll leave it at that mimi. The one who i speak about all the time <hes> on our lisa reads is is the one who lisa was kind enough to hook up. Lisa mattresses was kind enough to hook up with a with a matches actress. She has alzheimer's now. It's my mom's mom and she's in a memory care unit and obviously i don't get to share is many moments with her anymore because she's very sick and it is a horrible disease and one of the worst ways you can watch a human being lose. I don't wanna say lose fade away sort of slowly over. It's a very slow long for long death. That's what it is and it's horrifying. It's so fucked up for everybody around and it gave me a special different kind of i also watch taylor's lose. Her grandma alzheimer's <hes> four five years ago from a very first hand perspective. I never seen anybody dying before and in it is something i'd found dead body before which i told her i remember the story on a shot episode like ten to yeah real i. I found a dead body before but i'd never i'd never been in a room with somebody who's actively dying and it is it is something. I don't know if that's something i'd ever want to experience. It's something <hes> you probably will at some point. I think we all probably have to at some point. It is a brutal thing but all that is to say alzheimer's and the way to fix is just if you if if i had to throw out a random here's a 'cause you could go support today outside of obviously giving blood and and trying to help the victims of horrific violence in our world i would say <hes>. Would i say j what was i saying. You're about to bring up a supporting alzheimer ahead one of my brain brain farts. Oh thank you. I would supporting the movement. Get out and find a way to contribute to the the alzheimer's research community or give money to alzheimer's research anyway. You grandparents are incredibly important. They offer a ton of wisdom in in in perspective that you don't have to go back to a point earlier about your conversation with your grandfather father yeah. There's nothing like when an elderly person gives you advice like that especially a grandparent that really makes it's like a wake-up call. <hes> it really makes you realize is like hey. I gotta change like something's got a something's gotta give here. There's wait. There's more weight to hearing something like that from somebody who has look look at that point. I'm sitting on the couch that man. He's done right for the most part. He's accomplished all the most difficult things in life. He has made made a career for himself. He's built a home for himself. He created a family from self yet three kids. His kids ed kids. He's three levels deepened his family's the patriarch he's moving towards retirement etc. He's enjoying his golden year. That dude doesn't need or omi anything. I'm here because of him and he he still took the time to sit down in explain to me what he thought i needed to hear to snap out of it especially you saying that he was a man of few words then he actually had a conversation with you about that. Yeah holds weight in it so did and that's very important and it's so important for for it's such a it's that doesn't fit in my world right like anyone who knows me knows that i like to talk the fact that turned into careers still shocking to me but i'm a talker i. I've always been a talker. It used to be that i'd get blackout drunk and that's when i do my talking and understand what you were saying that sometimes i probably didn't make much sense apologies to all the people who had to over the course. There's like ten years there. Listen to me speak drunk. I don't know if you understand me. I understood me. I was having a hell of a time but i've always been a talker if you let me talk in a conversation if if we have a serious serious conversation you'd better come with points because if you don't start talking i will talk the entire time it's part of it's partially anxiety thing because it makes me feel better right common defense mechanism and a lot of ways to just a related to what you're saying sharing in some ways. It can be yeah it. It can can be a defense mechanism. I try not to go like i can usually feel. If i'm talking just to talk. I try to stop myself because that's horrible will only get you in trouble in your personal relationships in your podcasting if you're doing that when you just hit a like a realm of stream-of-consciousness we just literally just pop into your head. You're just talking out loud. It can get dangerous <hes> you you wanna make sure you've got purpose behind. Your words is all i'm saying i'm just gonna leave it at that. I will talk forever if you will allow me to okay. Don't don't let me talk forever. Call your grandparents though all right. They're older wise. They have wisdom to impart. You don't have better shit to do you jack off and play video games all day. This is probably the least physically taxing and most productive thing you could possibly possibly do don't crank in terms of the scale and also hashtag. Don't crank. If you're on the look think about the amount of effort that goes into picking up the phone you don't at the dial anymore. Notional dialing you just press grandma grandpa or nursing home call a random nursing home and just say random name be like <hes> miss misora and don't connect you to somebody talk to that old lady or man named sarah. Do something is the point get out there connect with an older elderly person somebody who can import. There's some good also. If you have a good story about your grandma grandpa call the hotline share it eight eight eight w._r. Bullet. I don't know that we'll get any but if somebody has a bad ass story about your grandparents. I had that one about my my grandma interviewing john wayne back in the day. That was oh yeah. That was tight. Call eight eight eight w._r. Bowling give us a story about your grandma your or you know what better yet. If you have like a bad ass grandma or grandpa that you could get to call in and and say i'd say whatever honestly i don't even care what they say. I love that idea. Actually we'll put grandparents. I'll be awesome all up and down the show man eight eight eight w._r. Bolan either college college would take stories grandparents. Elderly people related or get your actual parents on the phone. You know what here's what you do. You're all supposed to be hanging out with your grandparents this month and calling them and going to see him spending time with them and making sure that you talk with them. If you're lucky enough to have the opportunity to spend time with your grandma grandpa this this week or month any point in the next few weeks and you think they have something good. You ask him grandma grandpa. Do you have a piece of of really good advice that you'd think you could give the rb. P gang in and try to if you go down the rabbit hole of what's a podcast. It's gonna end up really long in. Don't go that route. Don't go that route. Just lie say it's a radio show. That's the best way to explain it. Sometimes you just gotta light old old time radio. It's doing a call your grandparents months segment that ends with me encouraging you to lie to old people people but seriously just lie say it's a radio show and then give him explain it to them grandma grandpa. I'm gonna call this number. I want you to give that piece of advice and then have them share with. There's maybe we can all get a little wiser here and again. If you don't have grandparents is fine. Many many people no longer have grandparents or never even knew there's call a nursing home asked to speak to a random person. I call another older family member like an aunt and uncle or an older friend yeah friends with grandparents or a._j. Said man you're in the grocery store best. Buy or wherever wherever you go. There's the early people everywhere in the crank store. There's old people in there say hi to somebody. Do you have a little conversation or go plant a fucking tree. I don't no i can't solve every problem but it's call your grandparents month in august. Make sure you call yours i._b._p. Tune is also brought to you by another actually none of of our new sponsors care of care of is an incredible subscription service that delivers vitamins and supplements customized for your specific health needs you take a short quiz. You answer some simple questions about your diet. Your lifestyle your fitness in your health goals and care of put together a personalized plan just for you. 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Were six away from it thousand by the way we've never hit thousand people. I'm super pumped to have grown as much as we have over the past few weeks and obviously that's been a result giving you more so i'm gonna continue to do that. I'm going to continue to write more. I wrote fuck. Your politics. Yesterday is sort of a. I don't want to say spitball reaction because i thought about this is for the record. I didn't write this column as a response. It had like a direct response to the shooting that occurred over the weekend or shootings use that occurred over the weekend again. I i know thoughts and prayers. Don't do anything to all. Y'all who don't do anything but they do. I'm gonna be praying everybody in in in daytona and obviously paso as well and i i don't. I don't like that we've shitting thoughts and prayers constantly now like yes. Dan patrick offering of thoughts impairs does absolutely nothing for anyone if that's what he's getting on national t._v. To do is say thoughts and prayers to the people of el paso no that's not productive but what actually praying is think actually thinking about what happened and giving your thoughts to the people lost in to those hurting. That's not the negative people that's a good thing to do. It's just the version of it that we've made our goto response. That's bad right a._j. Do you agree no. I agree is become like this watered-down thing to where something bad happens and you just kinda. Shoot it out there in tweet and it's like oh and then you move on right yeah. That's not how it works but you should be thinking thinking and praying about people who are suffering that's not i shouldn't have used the word shoot. That was probably a poured out of whatever would you say a while saying like shoot a tweet out there i should i just sent a tweet out yet. One person probably heard that brad word choice but again. It's like come on. Sometimes it's not about something is as silly as that. It's about what somebody's intentions. Sometimes you can tell somebody's intentions are good which you should be able to tell in this case. You don't have to fucking go off on every single person who miss speaks. I've been getting this for almost nine years now on the internet. Come on man sometimes you. I knew what i meant hair. Just add one more thing to you all right our leadership in texas. Just it sucks dude. It's nationwide the problem but it's like a sex 'tatoes lives. It's been like this. It's a massive bummer there. We've had guys that i th- in different levels of leadership at our state level that that i have respected in in in looked up to over the years but not very many is mostly dudes like dan patrick where i'm like. I honest greg gavitt to god. Don't know how you got there. How you convinced anybody you deserved avenue ability to make choices for other humans is is crazy town to me. <hes> he blamed video games. You mentioned video games but you didn't necessarily like pinpoint in point. He blamed video games as the reason. Why a lot of this like crazy violent yeah he. He brought up duty in particular. I'll give you this okay they didn't of this is going to be a longer thing later that you're going to mention no video games planned violence or whatever but the whole narrative that's the part that he tried to pass it off off as being the main source of <hes> look video games and violent video games and violent movies and violent entertain. Yeah those things can be incredibly negative. If you you are <hes> doing a terrible job is apparent and like not making sure that your children understand the difference between reality and fiction and letting your kids play too many violent video games for too many hours in a day or like watched terminator thousand times in a row or whatever then yeah sure okay fine that can definitely have have negative mental health impact so can eating ice cream for twenty four hours a day. Anything in too big of a <hes> dose is bad. We always talk about like everything in moderation nation. <hes> do too much too much good thing. We'll ruin it. It's not like that's just pretending that video games are the thing causing causing people to go and murder large amounts of humans with <hes> with with assault rifles is fucked up. Look i just don't like when the media tries tatting adding it off the wall. Try to dig into the psyche of these killers and try to figure out. Why did they do this. What motivated him do that. Honestly they're just sick. Evil demented people out there in case. That's just what it just comes down to. That's just sick. People out there that do these horrendous acts in for those of you who are like how do you time mental health offend all of this. How do you tie. I mean there's look there's a million facets. Mental health plays a part for sure are broken mental health system the fact that we are only just now getting to a place place where some people are even willing to admit that they're mentally ill or get or seek help or don't feel ashamed to go get help all that is like very much a new part of this problem right right like the mental health stuff it plays it plays for sure but they're leash that it's not just your mentally ill and then you go in a mass shooting like a hundred thousand things go wrong along the way for for a human to end up deciding that the way they want to die is by taking out another above other human beings with them. It's not just you mentally ill in the that's the next thing that happens a lot has to go wrong and i'm not saying it's always the parents but a lotta time. It's the parents a lot of times to community a lot of time. It's family and friends and people turning a blind mind. I in deciding not to do the right thing and that's really the big big route issue here for me. Still it all goes back to if if we all just did a better job of making its look people. It's a complex issue with a million facets to it facets. Excuse me there is only one way to address this bullshit at this point and that is with the basics back to the basics the simple things taking care of all the shit that i spoke about in my long winding monologue at the beginning the episode. Just go back and listen to that again. I won't repeat myself and we gotta go but followers on instagram at ross bohlin podcasts twitter facebook dot com slash fuck you mark zuckerberg patriot dot com slash podcast a._j. 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Is it really bad for business?

The Stephen A. Smith Show

24:11 min | 2 years ago

Is it really bad for business?

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Of course, on the NBA side, there's LeBron James and Luke Walton calling him a close in saying, that's the main this Kevin Durant saying he's under appreciated in an estimated as a defensive player. This kyri Irvine talking about the Celtics and what he expects from them this year. And one of those things include winning the championship because they're more than capable of beating the Golden State Warriors. But the first order business, the first order of business, of course, I got Tedy Bruschi coming on our number two as well. The first order of business ladies and gentlemen, breaking news over the last hour and a half or so ago, the Carolina. Panthers have thought, four, nine, a safety, former Ford honor of safety, Eric retail, one year deal. If you recall, Eric ry was without a job, couldn't find a home despite being a quality safety in the National Football League. Now, there will be people that will point to what he was it some mistakes that he made on the football field, etc. Etc. And lament the fact that everybody was going off about him, not having a job, but the fact is those people would be informed because while you look at him and see a perennial all pro or anything like that, the brother can play. He could play better than a lot of people that were in the National Football League that are in a National Football League. And the reality is, is that he shouldn't have been without a job buddy was, and we all knew why. Because every greed was one of the more prominent players who joined Colin capper Nick in kneeling during the national anthem in two thousand sixteen to protest social injustice and racial inequality. He had gone side throughout the off season and into the start at a regular season despite up Follett season playing multiple roles in San Francisco last year, reading from NFL dot com. But we also know that the Carolina Panthers needed help that to save these because the research thirty one on injured reserve before week three with looking cushion. Carolina safety struggled last week against the Cincinnati Biggles backup. Colin Jones. Got the start. The team turned a rookie Shawn golden during a win, but they're not ever agree. And if you the Carolina Panthers. When you consider the kind of trouble that former owner, Jerry Richardson got into because for some reason over the past decade. He was, let's say, acting inappropriately toward women and ultimately was forced to sell a team. As I wanted to under new ownership here come the Carolina Panthers and overall story. All of this transcends particular market. It ain't about Carolina is about the National Football League, and it's not just about the National Football League this about the public launch. As we sit here today. And if you turn CNN Fox News MSNBC or anybody else, you know what's going on supreme court justices and testimony being given. We don't need to get into that. But the fact of the matter is with all of that stuff going on for some reason, millions upon millions of people were preoccupied with supporting Colin Kaepernick and anybody who supported him being without a job. Because they had the merit, the unmitigated, gall exercise their right as American citizens and take a knee during the national anthem. Now on the record saying it's not something I would have done. I understood how it would be interpreted. I would have deemed it not worth it, and it's not something that I would have done not to mention. I wouldn't wanna be a distraction to the national football because my protests would not have been against the National Football League protecting. Social Justice issues in racial inequality issues against the National Football League. Then I might have used the National Football League Sunday afternoon sidelines as a platform, but because my argument was never against the National Football League, if I'm playing for the National Football League, I would not have chosen that venue to make that point out of respect and support of the league upon which is a neighboring meet and make millions upon millions of dollars. That would have been my position. But that doesn't mean that I'm devoid of recognizing the fact that it was perfectly within his collar happenings, right to feel otherwise and to exercise, right, not just as an American citizen, but as a National Football League player because there was no rule in place prohibiting him from taking a knee. If he worked for the national for the National Basketball Association, he would have been in violation of their rules. Because it's in their contracts to stand for the national anthem, the same as applicable to the major league baseball. The same is applicable to the National Hockey League. So had he done it in one of those things he would have been in violation of it, but the same National Football League who Senator John McCain, former Senator, John McCain, God rest his soul who just passed away recently want purported the National Football League, like other leagues heading gauged paid, patriotism, courtesy of the defense department who was given the league's millions of dollars to do that to promote the military to promote patriotism. And since they was doing. So to me, it was incumbent upon the National Football League to make sure it was inserted. In the player contracts that to had to stand for the national anthem dammit. They've been getting money from the defense department since two thousand seven or two thousand eight and never found it within themselves to compel a player to stand for the national anthem. It was never in their contract. It was never in their contract. What the NFL said is we strongly encourage, they never mandated. And if you never mandated, then that very player that you chose to ostracize, you chose to ostracize him instead of pointing to your negligence and deficiencies in not making sure that that mandatory clean was put into these contracts. So why should you be allowed to hold it against college? Captaining. Or anybody like Eric Reed and others who are willing to support him. Now the owners Iden turn around and say this business, and they have a good point ladies and gentlemen, it is about business. It is about their bottom line. They didn't give a damn there. Colin Kaepernick was kneeling. What they care about is once it came to the attention that it may have been affecting their bottom line. And as a result, the Bob McNair is in Jerry Jones, and others were saying though you will not do that. Jerry Jones don't give a damn about patriotism. Jerry Jones gives a damn about green. Jerry Jones is in the business of making money. You just saw everybody bloviating about the fact that the Dallas Cowboys are worth five billion dollars right? That's what Jerry Jones cares about. And if his bottom line is going to be compromised, as I was told, he told to the Dallas cowboy players in a meeting last season. This is not a football meeting. This is a business meeting, and if you take that position your bottom line, and if you affect my bottom line, gonna fix yours, that's business. You may not like it, but you gotta respect it. But here's where the times have gotten tricky for the national football. Member, how we all made the noise about Colin cabinet being the face of Nikes thirtieth year. Commemoration of the just do it campaign. And we lamented how Nike was going to lose money. Well, lo and behold is the other sneak accompanies. There's been losing. Nikes made billions. Since having that commercial at commemorating Colin cabinet would it's just do a campaign. They've made billions. Nike's chilling. So if you are the National Football League in your Jerry Jones, if you want to National Football League and you Mr. Bob McNair owner that Houston, Texas, who can't seem to win a damn game these days who sitting there talking about how we can't let the inmates run the prisons. If you're that guy. Oh, anybody that feels like him in Jerry Jones purportedly feel. What do you have to say today that Nike's making money because of Nikes making money, that means they have support and if Nike is making money and has the support who's to say that you would not have if you're Jerry Jones or your Bob McNair. But why Latino and beyond in the state of Texas stand up. In a state of Texas stand up because you've got to owners in your state who was swearing up and down. That's supporting color. Cabinet was bad for business. And if it was bad for business, how come Nikes not being affected. And if Nike has proven is good for business, maybe as good for your business, maybe Jerry Jones. You might make more money supporting collar cabinet. Maybe Bob McNair, you might actually be relevant. You'll team. I actually be relevant if you supported Colin cabinet ever thought of that. See, we thought that it was bad for business and then NFL owners revenue went up four point, nine percent last season and each owner cash. The check for two hundred and fifty five million dollars a piece. And now Nike is made billions off a Colin cabinet commemorating. Thirtieth anniversary of the just do it campaign. So guess what? It ain't bad for business. Now, what's your excuse. Now, what's your students. He the evergreen signing transcends him being employed by the NFL. You don't want it also does. It also shows everybody in the NFL in on the same page when it comes to college cabinet. It also buffers, Colin cabinets case because of air agree can find a job particularly considering the plethora of safeties that actually exist in the NFL. And I'm not saying that they aren't some scrubs up in there. But the bottom line is there's more scrubs at the quarterback position than they are safety positions. So why would it Colin cabinet Cava job which buffers his argument about collusion being exercised against them and remember what collusion is all about. Ladies and gentlemen, it's very, very important. It doesn't have to be a Qadri of owners communicating with one another throughout the league. All it takes a couple of people. If colleague, cabinet, compute improve via emails, text messages, or whatever the case may be that there was actual communication about him amongst a couple of owners. That's all he needs to prove collusion. This is a big day. This is a huge day because the National Football League is in a world of trouble. Now, this is a step in the right direction, make no mistake about it, and I'm not talking about the league office when I'm talking about the National Football League. I'm talking about some owners getting exposed and not just because of their business acumen or lack thereof, or commitment to the bottom line and nothing else, which means they're probably a moral as opposed to moral or immoral. It might be flat out prejudice. And it might Trent and it might. Be transitioning along state lines. It's not an accident to me. That the two most outspoken owners against Colin capital happened to both becoming from the state of Texas. That's why I'm challenging the state of Texas stand up and make sure your voice is heard. And make sure that it's not Jerry Jones. Mr. McNair speaking for you and I'm not accusing anybody of being prejudiced. I'm talking optics. I'm talking about how something looks. We get to pay attention to that, particularly in this day and age. The particularly with the metoo movement, which has nothing to do with Colin cabinet by the way and beyond. How things look evidently matters. It of how things look, evidently matter then how does all of this look right now? Colin capital is making money for Nike hockey can't make money for the national football. The who the hell said endorsing Colin cabinet supporting Colin Kaepernick is going to be bad for business. Where's the proof? Where's the proof? And if you don't have that proof and it's just an assumption, why would you make that assumption. These are questions that are legitimate. These are questions that can't be esteemed. I know we've got Mr. Morrow with the New York Giants who was on the record in the immediate aftermath of Colin cabinets. Initial protests saying that he received an abundance of emails. Unlike he's ever seen before where people were swearing not to support the New York Giants. If they were to bring him on board, how they feel now and where these people when it comes to Nike where these people when it comes to the National Football League. Are you sure it's collar cabinet? Was it the rule changes that have softened the sleep like the swearing the DJ swear inches of the world and the Josh Norman's of the world. And clay Matthews of the world have been complaining about who to say, it's not they could Cussing issues an effect that people aren't comfortable with these guys heads collide with turf and being woozy and discombobulated in disoriented and not knowing where they're coming going, who's to say, it's not that. We got a lot of stuff to get into today. We really, really do. This is what this is. What talk radio is made for right here. What is the real reasons for the struggles of the National Football League? Cicada cabinet is their protest or has he been used as cover to gloss over and disguise? The real issues contaminating the National Football League as we speak? Is it about Colin cabinet? Whatever about Colin Kaepernick. It about concussions. Rules changes. And the NFL's apparent insatiable appetite. To protect themselves from lawsuits and beyond by softening the game to such a degree that you'd literally have defensive players past and present speaking about the NFL, comparing it to the potential of becoming flag football and talking about how the game is disrespectful to the players. That are promoting it and uplifting it by their mere presence in the National Football League in this day and age. Edit eight, say ESPN that is the number to call this editing seven to nine three, seven, seven, six subjects, not going anywhere. We're going to entertain the subject throughout this show today because we don't run of stuff on the Stephen Smith show. Let me be very, very clear. I'm a proud employees of the Walt Disney network ESPN, but ain't nobody ever accused me of being Mickey Mouse, and we ain't about star today. Once again, another call eight say ESPN. It's edited seven to nine, three, seven, seven, six. That's one of the things that we'll get into. Another thing we don't get into as Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant spoke to media the other day, and I'm not sure we have that sound, but he spoke to the media yesterday. About, you know, essentially being disrespected. He was asked about being a defensive player of the year being recognized for being an elite defensive player in the league. Listen to what Kevin Durant had to say in response to all of that. Do we have that sound new? No. Go ahead and play that sound for me, please. Right now they're not going to give me anything. Even if is on a fence. I have to be clear cut better than everybody from medium and get a look. So that is, I mean, it's just pure hate for me obviously in no not appreciation, no appreciation for my real skill for the game, but I get it understand where we're coming from, understand what we have here in this building that scares everybody, you know, regular season awards. I mean, I'm never gonna look when it comes to especially plan here for the words. That was Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors. First of all, Kevin Durant, stop lying. Everybody's not against you. Some people are though. People have. You know, come to the conclusion, you know folks, hey, let me be very, very clear. I've said it before, and I say, again, out of respect to the wonderful in the lovely magnificent MRs mama Durant door this woman. I'm not going to be disrespectful. That's one reason. The other reasons I happen to love Kevin Durant contrary to what y'all wanna think I happen to love LeBron James. I happen to think that he's addicted to controlling narratives. And he's a bit too damn sensitive. But what he has met to the African American community, what he has meant to the sports community in the sports world. The role model that he is how he represents himself as family as loved ones. It's friends, etc. It's to be nothing, but admired I'm just talking basketball. When you consider the expectations that were placed on the showed us when you consider the expectations that will placed on Kevin Durant shoulders, I can't say enough about who they are. And how phenomenal they have been. To the NBA to the basketball world. To to America as sports figures and specifically to the African American community remind in the world out there that for the most part, damn it. We know how to act. In a stigma that has been put out there by so many people, angry black folks don't know how to act and all of this other stuff kick rocks. Damn it. Most black folks do know how to act and we act ourselves according to quarterly and we conduct ourselves like law-abiding, God, fearing lawful citizens. And role models like Kevin Durant and LeBron James remind the world that we do just that. I love them, brothers. I'll give a damn how they feel about me, don't know, don't care. I know how I feel about them, but we're just talking basketball and I have always lamented the fact that I thought it was the weakest move that I've ever seen by superstar. Kevin Durant leave Oklahoma City and go to a team that just lost to engage seven of the Western Conference finals. Three weeks later at a problem with that is the only problem I've ever had with Kevin Durant. Of the day when he accused me a line, of course. Kevin Durant is a phenomenal player second best in the world as far as I'm concerned, arguably number one. I think you'll go down as the greatest score arguably in the history of the game. And Kevin Durant has elevated his level of defensive play to the point where he warrants consideration for defensive player of the year. He's a rim protector. He blocked shots. He takes on tough defensive assignments. He runs from no one, and he's willing to defend against anybody. Kevin Durant, this phenomenal. He ain't average, ain't good. He's not great. He's phenomenal. He's great at it. All of that. He's on that level. And that makes him absolutely right about what he's saying. Not about everybody because some of us like myself give him the credit are willing to give him the credit. He so richly deserves Kevin Durant is special and he's not just a special special athlete and basketball player. He's a special person and a special role model. The reason why I say he might be lying is to say that nobody says that about him. That's a damn lie. I reach millions every day and I'm saying Kevin Durant, something special, and it's an honor to cover him and I will miss him when he is gone. 'cause he's that damn gray that was straight talk wireless nationwide coverage on America's largest most dependable for LT networks. Do you ever even heartburn? Like the con- we have an acid stashed everywhere in case it pops up. You know what I mean? You keep something your bag or your desk, or your car or your nightstand. 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Advance Planning

Outside the Lines

24:33 min | 2 years ago

Advance Planning

"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical Regionical. Found guilty of paying money to players. Nobody cares. They only care if their school my staff, and I do not offer improper inducements past anger sadness, disgust regular people have Christmas. We have free agency think the plan. Here has always been set themselves up for the summer of twenty nine thousand nine hundred am looking forward to next summer. We live in Texas. But this is our state this place all of us played in the state of South Carolina. Their willingness to give something that was such a horrible tragedy is just unbelievable. What you see change your perception of any sporting event. Get this. Outside the lines on Fagin sitting in for Bob Lee, the NBA in it's infinite storylines is today's big story from studios e the freshest news comes mostly from the court where Steph curry made almost the season's worth of threes and just three quarters. He finished with fifty one points eleven for sixteen from beyond the arc and moved up to fifth on the NBA's all time three pointers list. Oh and the Lakers finally won their first game back. He was LeBron James after the victory. Great to win period. But as feels good for us to know what we've been doing over to training camp means first few games that continue to get better. I think we've got better tonight. And we want to continue that. But then there's this former NBA Commissioner David Stern during an indepth interview with Sports Illustrated attempted to explain what he infamously vetoed. The two thousand eleven trade of Chris Paul from the then New Orleans Hornets to the Los Angeles Lakers, which was orchestrated by current pelicans GM del Dem's stern said New Orleans wasn't getting enough in return, adding quote, del Dem's is a lousy general manager, and none of those players are currently with the team anymore, and he may lose Anthony Davis serves criticism prompted the pelicans to issue a statement. We are very disappointed to read the inappropriate and inaccurate comments from the former NBA Commissioner regarding the New Orleans pelicans organization as the utmost confidence in our general manager del Dem's in this storyline. Dovetails perfectly with another the tantalizing twenty nine thousand nine free agency class, which includes Kevin Durant Kawai Leonard Jimmy Butler, and apparently is impacting how most teams approached the ongoing NBA season. And even though Anthony Davis is a member of the twenty. Twenty two c class. Our very own. Brian winters believes many teams are already scheming on how to trade for the games. Best. Big, man. The future is impacting the now. And we are now joined by that very same. When her senior writer and host of the ESPN podcast. Brian winters in the hoop collective Brian. Those were really strong words from the former Commissioner David Stern about pelicans GM del deaths. Howard Stern's words landing around the NBA today. Well, I miss David Stern. Because started he said this kind of stuff all the time when he was the Commissioner a lot of it was off the record, obviously, the pelicans weren't happy. And I also part of that statement was we're glad to have Adam silver's the Commissioner now a little jab at him the thing about the history of this Kate that I think fans, especially Laker fans will not remember is that when David Stern vetoed that trade. He didn't veto it as the Commissioner of the NBA. He can be vetoed it as at that time, the defacto owner of the New Orleans pelicans at that time the pelicans were owned by the NBA because had essentially gone bankrupt. And we're taking over now whether or not David Stern should have had that role. And there shouldn't have been third party. Who was watching over the team, that's a different discussion. But he obviously made it clear that if he had the team for much longer he might have fired del Dem's seven years ago. But it is a tremendous moment. NBA history of big what if moment and clearly he did. Unlike the job that del Dem's was doing which is why does that trade, and I will say this. The pelicans are phenomenal team. They're undefeated and Dell Dem's still has the job. So I think they'll dumps gets the last laugh on this one. Yeah. And part of his job going forward is going to be dealing with Anthony Davis. But let's for right now put a pin in Dem's and Anthony Davis and talk about the broader free agency issues because you wrote this week about how teams are obsessed with the coming free agency class how is free agency the upcoming looming class actually affecting how teams are going about this season. Kate. So this is really just an offshoot of Kevin Durant going to the warriors in the first place. The league has been sort of in an a by for catered situation realizing the right now, the warriors were head and shoulders above everybody and looking forward and realizing the Kevin Durant may move next year, and that may trigger a massive change in the league and not just Durant. They look out there, and they see Kawai Leonard possibly on the move out of Toronto. And they see. Yes, Anthony Davis. He has two years left on his contract, but he has an extension zone next summer. And if he does not extend there's an expectation the league that the pelicans will have to trade him. And so there are teams out there scheming. How can we maybe get our hands on Anthony Davis? Even though the pelicans are four. No. And even know the raptors look great, and even though Kevin Durant potentially be walking away from three championships. I can tell you by talking with out there to multiple teams not one not two not five. They are really. Skinny excited about the way the league can change hands and twenty nineteen. If for no reason, then the maybe Kevin Durant will leave and change the balance of power away from Golden State. I mean, some of this is the quality of the free agency class with some of it has to be the shifting power structure that the league has gone through over the last five or six years. What exactly is it that's causing teams to really believe that the Lee can change is supposed to just feeling like things might say the same. Well, one of the reasons K is at the big markets are going to be in the game. So you're going to have the Lakers and clippers the Lakers wits. Lebron both having cap space to make bids and right now, the Los Angeles has never been more popular amongst players. You also going to have the Knicks and nets available to make a bids on top players. Now, granted the nets aren't exactly a jug or not. And the Knicks have been terrible free for years. But it's still New York. It's going to be an option then Philadelphia. Still one of the biggest markets going to have the best team. Amongst those teams going to have cap space to add another player. So part of this is it's really desirable markets. No offense to a small market like Indiana. It was going to have a big cap space. There's not going to be a major free agent probably going there. But it's the combination of of big name players the reality that a big name player may leave the best team and the big markets. You put all those together in a season where the warriors look like they're going to win. Again. You have a lot more excitement about the future than the present in NBA general. Manager's offices, right? Brian winters. Thank you very much. And people can check out the podcast the hoops collective, thanks. On Wednesday in New York. A jury delivered guilty verdicts in the FBI is college basketball pay for play case against three men James to enroll code who worked for decent Christian dockets who worked for an NBA agent. The men were found guilty on felony wire fraud charges and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. The jury deliberated for nineteen hours over three days. Now, the details of the case can feel dance and hard to process, but the reality is that this verdict strikes at the heart of big time. College basketball, a sample of the allegations that the men conspired to have Adidas pay one hundred thousand dollars to the father of recruit Brian Bowen to influence him to sign with Louisville. They conspired to pay ninety thousand dollars a mother of former Kansas prospect, Billy Preston and twenty thousand to the guardian of current Jayhawk Sylvia to sue. So this is a since been held out of the lineup by Kansas. Coach Bill self pending a review of his eligibility. In fact, if we focus in on the shifting tone at Kansas. We can get a sense of what might be happening behind closed doors at many. Grams across the country. Let's listen to Bill original reaction to the FBI's. College basketball. Pro this is from last year. I don't think our fans at his point time have anything to worry about. I'm much more concerned about our sports. And now here's Bill self just last night. When recruiting perspective student athletes, my staff, and I have not and do not offer improper inducements to them or their families to influence or college decisions. Nor are we aware of any third party involvement to do. So it does bring some closure that you know, as staff, we can certainly. You know, look forward to and prepare our team probably in in as motivated away as we have since I've been at the university of Kansas. Life comes at you fast, and many big time schools have been linked to illicit pay for play schemes, and yet coaches of schools whose names have yet to appear are still downplaying the swirling news such as North Carolina. Coach ROY Williams. This is also from last night to world not familiar with of never talked to shoe company about helping me get a player of never told an agent about helping me to get a player. I've never had a family offer not offer. But asked me for anything that shouldn't be asked for it. And so it is a world. And I don't think that all of college basketball's like that. I think that what's going on. It's very very sad. It's scary as it can possibly be not favor of what's going on. But at the same time does not go on everywhere. I've got some tremendous friends coach. Profession we've had this discussion and more people agreed with me than what's going on in that trial. And the way it goes on everywhere. It does not go on everywhere. So to offer us perspective on all things. College basketball. We are now joined by ESPN analyst Jay Bilas, Jay how does this verdict impact college basketball? Kate. I don't know that it impacts college basketball right now, the curious thing to me is that very few people, especially fans seem to care about this that if an less it is your team, and you will defend your team to the hilt or unless it is a rival team that you can point to and say see, I told you they cheat. The fans don't seem to care the NC. Double A is not doing anything about this. Because they've been asked to stand down in institutions aren't doing anything about it and claiming they were asked to stand down right now, the only people being suspended there's one player Soviet associate Kansas other than that. It's it's business as usual. What is the reaction been like behind closed doors in the college basketball world 'cause you write that the tension of media pressure is not there, but these are possible jail sentences being handed down. Yeah. And there's no question that the three defendants that were convicted on those seven counts of wire fraud and bribery. We'll do some jail time. I think it's an open question as to what the remaining defendants will do even these defendants whether they'll cooperate with the government and give up other people that that have knowledge or were involved in this, including sitting head coaches. That's really the open question is how how much further will the government delve into this because if it just stops here, which is a possibility I don't see anything changing in college sports that look this cheating has been going on forever players have been paid under the table forever. I still don't even the government takes forward, and some coaches topple from this. I don't see it changing in the long term. I think we're going to continue to see this because there's just too much money in the game for business. Not to be conducted earlier this week news came out that new balance would be paying high level prospect areas base. Really a million dollars to be an intern obeys. He's rep by LeBron James agent, Rich Paul and he's going to skip college in work at new balance before he's eligible for the NBA draft. I don't know if you saw this tweet Jay, but stadium basketball analyst, Jeff Goodman. He tweeted a quote from Syracuse coach Jim behind you see that. They're LeBron did nice job helping his client. It is LeBron's client. Right. Lebron re tweets it, he says, oh, they big man now, then Wednesday Rich Paul made an appearance on the jump. And I just went take a listen to this Kobe. I'm actually called me and apologized to me. But interesting, but my response is look again, we're talking about a system here that's been broken for a long time and these kids and the families need option. What was your reaction to seeing this Bazeley news? I'm not surprised that someone took advantage of this kind of option. It is an option, but Kate it's a minor league option and minor leagues is you know, are for the development of talent. College basketball is not a minor league. It is a major league. Minor leagues. Don't make billions of dollars. They don't have multibillion dollar television contracts, and they don't pay their coaches millions upon millions of dollars in the issue really is the economic rights of the players in until that's fixed. We're still going to see players going to college for their brands rather becomes major league rather than than going the minor league route. And we're we're still going to see one and done, and we are still going to see money moving under the table. You just can't it's kind of like Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park. Life finds a way and in college sports multibillion dollar business money will find a way it always has always will. But we seeing these small shifts when it comes to the G league announcing that they're gonna pay six. Figure contracts and now this with Baizley, and then of course, the FBI investigation. Do you think that where do we go from here? And do you see any actual significant changes on the horizon? I do I think there are the Allston case is being decided right now by judge. Claudia Wilken in the ninth circuit back could see further movement where players have more control over their economic rights, even Condoleeza Rice and several members of the rice commission said after they did their work that they think that the player should be allowed their name and likeness rights to some degree. That's a lot of movement from some of the rhetoric we've seen from the answer AA over the years. So as the disparity continues to grow between the revenues and in college sports and limiting players to a scholarship only as that gap continues to widen. I mean, it's not even a gap. It's chasm. I think we're still going to see this tension. Does it mean that we're going to have a free market system anytime soon? No, of course, not. But I think I think we're going to continue to see movement toward the players having more economic rights certainly that they do. Now, Jay Bilas. Thank you for your time. And. 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The Orioles Rangers and Blue Jays the big ten handing out penalties for last week's pre-game dust up between Michigan and Michigan state. The Spartans were fined ten thousand dollars for initiating contact with Michigan players who were on the field the pregame warmups. In addition, head coaches, Mark dantonio Jim Harbaugh were reprimanded by the conference. As was wolverines. Linebacker Devin Bush for defacing the Michigan state logo in the center of the field. In Houston last night. Donovan Mitchell paying tribute by writing more and mccloskey's name on his shoes for the jazz game at Houston. A plus e the twenty one year old university of Utah runner was shot and killed Monday night on campus, the university's athletic teams will also remember mcklusky by wearing special patches and logos in her honor. At times what happens on the football field or even before a game can seem all consuming, and the sport has even started to divide us, but a trip the Houston. Texans shared this summer, six players with owner, Bob McNair, helped bring people together after one of the worst moments in recent US history as Michael Smith tells us in this NFL films and Sunday NFL countdown presentation with the Texans witness and South Carolina. This summer is a lesson of hope and forgiveness for all of us. Thank you so much for being sports. Thank you. Well, when I mentioned it. He said count me. We'll get a count me. And he said let me tell some of the other guys. And so the number expanded. This past summer. Bob McNair and six Houston Texans players mall with ties to South Carolina traveled to Charleston to visit historic mother. Emmanuel church. We live in Texas. But this our state this place all of us played in the so, Ramone. So new he came to the goes came. They were joined they came to support the church congregation and Charleston community. A community that suffered one of the deadliest hate crimes in our nation's history. Your car's council murder and one count of possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. On June seventeenth two thousand fifteen nine African American parisioners were murdered during a Wednesday night bible state. But mother Emmanuel this. She is most unspeakable heartbreaking tragedy through tears of grief. Members of the victims. Families showed moments of an amazing grace during the killers bond hearing. Curse. Want the whole team? Kiffin you we have no real. Kids. Good. During the darkest hour, the unconditional love and forgiveness of these family members brought hope and healing to the palmetto state. I heard about it. And so the reaction of the people here. I guess I was stunned their willingness to do something that was such a horrible tragedy is just unbelievable. Mcnair, but university of South Carolina graduate was so moved that he and his wife. Janice quietly paid for the funeral expenses of all nine victims. I didn't know about it. But it doesn't surprise me. Because he is the kind of may is he's a standout gothic, Bob McNair, Jim Neal again. Everything is going around, football and social media. You can easily jump to to say. Well, you know, hey, I sent this. And I did that. But he did. Away until he does and he never most take much credit for. He just does it because he has a generous. He's always been that way. And that speaks volume about him as well. Let me just tell y'all appreciate very much y'all take into time and coming over here. I think that the example it has been set at this church is just such a wonderful example for the whole country. The uniqueness. Of course. If mother manual is the response of the families, as we all know because so many people tuned in thinking that they were to hear this families being outraged and say, how dare you how did you do this or why did he do this? But instead they saw remarkable act of forgiveness and that forgiveness continues to resonate. Been able to forgive a person of what he did in the hurt that he left and this this community in this church is very powerful. If we all can just put our differences aside if from time to time and be there to embrace each other as human beings, I think this world will be such an far better place. I wanted to make sure that the words that were shared mid something that would kind radiate within their spirit that they'd be able to carry. But once again, we were excited for them to be here. And I know the kids had a great time. These people they lost families were broken, and they're still moving on this to find a way to smile. You can tell this family here everyone. So I Susan brothers soon as you walk into his touristy feel the love. This is the big for me. Thirteen years in the NFL. Then a lot been around a lotta people. But. Thanks so much for coming. Did shows you common players. We have just great players. Good experience to have them with us. I think is a very valuable experience for them. Mcnair, a university of South Carolina alum also donated one million dollars to the mother Emmanuel memorial to be built on the church grounds to honor the deceased tonight the first place Texans host the Miami Dolphins on Thursday night football. We'll be right back. I can't believe it. That Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until it? Get there alone. Get there. I'll I really get there. Now, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do what's best button? Do. Believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. After PTI sportscenter at six PM eastern with Kevin and Gandhi and Keith Olbermann, LeBron the Lakers Brown Steelers rivalry less. 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Trumps Impeachment Continues, Chinas Mysterious Outbreak, and More

The World Next Week

32:30 min | 8 months ago

Trumps Impeachment Continues, Chinas Mysterious Outbreak, and More

"In the coming week the impeachment of president trump moves to the Senate China tries to suppress a mysterious illness ahead of the lunar new New Year and the World Economic Forum. Annual meeting is held. Dabo Switzerland is January sixteenth. Two Thousand Twenty in time for the world next week. I'm Bob McNair Jeans and Jim the. US House of Representatives has voted but to send the impeachment case to the Senate which will decide if president trump is to be acquitted or convicted on two counts. But Jim can you give us a sense of what will be looking for during the week ahead on this. And what is most notable certainly bobbing. Let's note that the trial process is actually going to begin today. And by the time this podcast airs. Three things have happened. Okay one chief justice John Roberts will sworn in all one hundred senators who will have pledged. Make coat the oath. We're here to do impartial. Justice according to the Constitution and laws to the Senate will have adopted by simple majority. Vote the rules that will actually govern covering the trial. And the third thing is that the Senate will ev- issued what's called the rid of summons we'll go to the White House inviting him to participate in the trial and again. There are two accounts that the house has brought against President Trump and impeaching him. One involves the issue of abuse of office the other one involves obstruction of Congress. And and already you scoped out. What looks like a very different process than what we just witnessed in the house over? The last several weeks writes a very different process because one the Senate has a different role. Here it's its role is simply decide whether the facts of the case merit the President's removal from office a keep in mind. The president can be removed if either of the. The articles of impeachment garnered the support of two thirds of the senators. Okay so does it require conviction on both counts. Just one count. The the other reason is going to be different of course that the House representatives is controlled by the Democrats in this case in the Senate it's controlled by the Republicans and so the Republicans. We'll be responding to leadership of Senator Mitch McConnell but obviously to president trump. Who is the leader of their party? Now the actual mechanics of the impeachment trial which probably kick off on. Tuesday are a lot different than we're used to and a couple of things one is. That senators are expected to attend the trial. It's is going to run from Monday through Saturday. Once it gets underway senators. Don't have to worry about getting up early in the morning because the trial won't actually convene each day into one a PM. But here's the key thing. All senators must attend. They have to sit at their desks. They can't talk or even ask questions. Let me quote here on pain of imprisonment imprisonment. They could only read impeachment related materials and this may be the killer for a modern politician. They are prohibited from using their electronics. So no no IPADS no iphones. No Sim some notes or anything. Quite like the sounds like a different world than we're used to a different world and again the senators are supposed to sit there air and act as jurors not being engaged in other business now support not the case can be dismissed it any time by a majority vote but the Republicans skins currently don't have support to do that in the way to work as the house. Managers will present their essentially indictment of the president. That's expected to take several several days. It will then be followed by the president's defense also expected to take several days. Senators will then have an opportunity to ask questions but again there questions must be submitted in writing and the managers and defense lawyers can respond verbally now. One of the big open questions here is whether or not we are going to see. See witnesses come before the Senate last one of the big questions is you know. It's been a lot of talk. On Demands by Democrats at the Senate should bring in witnesses. For example join Bolton former national security adviser Republicans have been very reluctant to agree to bringing in witnesses. But at some point there's an expectation that the Senate and it will vote on whether to bring in additional witnesses to testify and again in this thing if Democrats maintain solidarity to be able to call witnesses. This is they're going to have to get at least four. Republicans to switch sides in vote for bringing in witnesses and so. There's a lot of attention being placed on senators like Mitt Romney of Utah. Susan Collins of Maine Cory Gardner of Nevada the more Alexandra of Tennessee and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska as a Republican to be the most likely likely to vote to bring in witnesses but were probably a couple of weeks away from seeing that happen once that portioned. The trial concludes assuming we do bring in witnesses. And I should note. That won't be like a moment from Perry Mason in which witnesses appear before the full Senate most likely they will give depositions on the sidelines guidelines to small groups selected. Senators that which we videotaped in those portions relevant could be used in the trial. But it's not going to be certified big Hollywood moment so this wouldn't be like what what we saw in the house hearings which involved these in many cases these lifelong civil servants who were coming in to testify about what they knew or heard about this case which is which at its core involves Ukrainian officials who who may have been asked to find dirt on presidential candidate Joe Biden and what the president's role was in that it. It will be different than that if you go back to the impeachment trial of Bill Clinton didn't have live testimony by witnesses. And I will note and this is one of the hard things to sort of gauge is. We'll public pressure build on Republicans to call witnesses now. One of the things that's happened in nearly month since the House voted on the two articles articles of impeachment is that more information has come out about what happened. The dealings between the trump administration and Ukraine most notably in the last couple of days lead partner. Who's WHO's under indictment apparently turned over a variety of documents to the House that had been released which tend to buttress the argument being made by the House? Impeachment managers injures also gave an interview last night to Rachel Maddow. MSNBC which didn't help the president's case in also just as we were sitting under the podcast news broke that the General General Accountability Office says the GAO which is a non-partisan operation of Congress has concluded that the administration violated the law in holding up aid into Ukraine. So how that's going to play out whether that moves the needle publicly remains to be seen yawn and on the Ukrainian side also coming out today. There's been a flurry of news. And I suspect we'll see see. More Ukrainians themselves have announced their mounting an investigation into whether or not the US ambassador at the time was being improperly surveilled by Ukrainians. So there's there's a great deal of concern about improper behavior happening across the board and it's adding to as you said Jim the pressure that is going to mount on the senators about about the extent to which they they dig further into this case or not one thing I just know that people are watching the proceedings on television and one of the interesting questions to fall the will be. What percentage senator of American? TV's tuned into the impeachment. Trial the cameras in the Senate chamber are operated by Senate employees none of the networks or or cable news channels. Have a say about where those cameras are pointed and indeed the president is. CNN has been arguing that CNN should be allowed to have cameras in the Senate so he can make its independent editorial decisions about where to focus cameras just before we wrap the session up. I think they're really sort of two other issues. To think about. One is the question of what what impact is the trial going. Have on President Trump in the conduct of American foreign policy. And I think that's very hard question to answer. We're not really sure but what I do know. Is that every move. The president makes informed policies is going to be subjected to intense amount of media scrutiny and speculation nation about his motives. Well we've already seen the attack that killed custom Sola money. Some people were using the phrase wag the dog in terms of generating News in such a way to divert attention in and support the president's case and so forth. Yeah we're GONNA see a lot more of that because again. I think once it goes to trial with the attention being focused on it everything goes up to to eleven on the one to ten scale. You're going to point out one other thing Jim. I would just one quick question though. Is that a chance. This trial goes up to and beyond the scheduled state of the Union address on February fourth. Because I would be quite interesting drama as well. I think right now nobody knows. How long does trials going last? Sort of the betty money going in is two weeks however. I just think that there's a lot of moving parts here and could end up in a situation where it runs longer than that I think. In that case there may be a move to postpone or delay the the the state of the Union address. We'll sort of see how that plays out and again we don't know what other information may come up in the next several weeks again flipside. Is this trial. How could be over in less than two weeks? I mean the range of possibilities here is quite large the other thing. I just wanted to point out about thinking of how the trial is going to play out in its consequences. Consequences is the effect is going have on the Democratic presidential race. You mentioned February. Four th scheduled time of the state of the Union while the day before February third. That's Camila Caucasus. Correct and you basically have of the six leading Democratic candidates freelancer United States senators. You're thinking senator. The club Char Senator Sanders and senator. Warren they're all going to have to be in Washington. DC while Joe Biden. People to judge and Tom Star crisscrossing is crossing. Iowa were dropping in on New Hampshire visiting South Carolina. And so you know. There's going to be a lot of question of how does that affect dynamics in are we going to see Z.. Disputes breakout in. The Democratic Party will believe the trials being used or delayed to hurt the candidacies of more progressive candidates. You you can see a variety of ways in which this could become very controversial and I will note that Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee Republican yesterday. She called on Club Shar Sanders in Warren to recuse themselves from the trial citing let me quote her here unparalleled political interest and quote in removing trump from office. Now I don't expect Senator Klobuchar Sanders in Warren to remove themselves from the trial but I can also magic on twitter cable news where people feed on controversy discount becoming bigger and bigger issue. Wow high drama indeed okay. We'll hold on here. We go Bob. Let's move away from the impeachment process and talk about China issue. This year. The Chinese Lunar New Year falls on Saturday. That's the twenty fifth and this will mark the transition from the year of the pig to the year of the rat now amid the preparations nations for the Multi Week celebration. There is a concerning mysterious pneumonia-like outbreak in the city of Wuhan in the WHO Bay province of China. This virus is captured tension because it's similar in many ways to the virus known as Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. SARS people boomer member over a decade ago. Saw can you give us a sense of how the outbreak might affect China and surrounding neighbors as literally millions of people travel travel throughout the region. During what is a big time for celebration. Absolutely jemma is very much a time of of movement and usually a very festive atmosphere atmosphere. Both in people travelling to see relatives to go to other places in the country but also that the types of foods they eat so there several issues that are raising concern. Here one as you say. This illness bears very sort of uncomfortable similarity to stars however big difference being the human to human transmission is not been born out in any fashion that we've seen yet it has been cases that have been reported outside of China now at latest report both Vietnam and in Japan people who were afflicted seemed to have recovered covered fully and not spread it to anyone else nor do they seem to have gotten it from another person That is being watched extremely closely. But it's happening also at a time in our colleague John. John Song is written about this for. Our website is happening time when there's also been a really devastating outbreak of swine fever in the country. It's are the two related or there's entirely separate issues that the moment it looked to be separate issues and again this is something that involves pork and involves the spread of illness via the consumption of pork or the proximity to pigs. Pork stocks have plummeted because of the culling of herds to to try to cut down on the incidence of this and we should note. China has is now had because of SARS in particular it has really ramped up. Its ability to respond to this. There were still a number of concerns that it was slow and reporting this latest illness. By a couple of weeks they were oppressed by global. Shed some light on what was happening. Now they have doesn't have the most open discourse within the country on media but they are reporting diligently by appearances appearances where the cases have seen keeping an eye on what's happening in Hong Kong or some cases have been reported or suspected cases When people arrive in Hong Kong there is this whole screening process? That goes is on where people are checked for this illness. And it's it's it's a concern to throughout Asia. Actually I mentioned Vietnam. It's actually was Thailand and then Japan where other cases were seen but there are concerns earns that suspected cases also in Singapore just given the nature of travel given the nature of ethnic Chinese movements of marketing this Lunar New Year which is mark basically until up to mid February they There's just a great deal of caution about not assuming that there is no capability of human transmission of this and so they have to take these precautions. Jim But there has been just far too many of these types that's about breaks in recent years causing a huge amount of unease. And so it's like it's it's it's a test for a country that still has places like Wuhan where there's these major major open marketplaces where disease could spread the animal to human possibility that human to human and it just the general closeness of people travelling together raises the the specter of some sort of infection spreading. So it's being watched very closely again. The good news is that it's not protest levels at SARS SARS ended up killing more than seven hundred people and really caused People recall in the early two thousands of calls the kind of a clampdown on lockdown on travel for a while a while they were trying to get a grip on it and again did trigger better reporting mechanisms for China the whol. Uh other world. Health Organization got heavily involved in pressing Chinese authorities to to monitor and report on this. So we're hoping that this year of the rat kicks off in a way that's not marred marred by any sort of mass illness. I think it's been very interesting to follow this. Both in terms of what happens with this virus and how long it takes scientists to gain the necessary understanding ending of transmission lethality ways to respond to it and the like. But it's also going to be very interesting to watch how the Chinese government handles it. You mentioned you and John Wong Our colleague WHO's written about a lot of this and he has noted that at least this time around the Chinese government seems to be a bit more transparent but sort of the whole all nature being transparent leading information flow letting people know that perhaps the government has done something wrong. Isn't the way of the Chinese Communist Party so in some sense this. This is the exact kind of problem that points to real weakness. Indeed Brittleness in the Chinese political system in one can imagine a variety ways. This could play out. They increase the stresses on the Chinese leadership. Now it's a really good point Jim and again. It's when you have a public health crisis that can jump borders like this. You just can't be in the business of controlling rolling information and so we saw just thinking of another example when the Ebola outbreak occurred in these destitute African countries in that for all the problems there in terms of the way information formation was conveyed. At least you did have pretty up to the minute reporting on where a Bolo is being cited and also the quashing of reports of of a bowl of spreading to places like Nigeria. where it it was pretty much? Any sort of a susceptibility. There during the thirties reacted pretty quickly. Again we're waiting to hear will rely on the fact Chinese authorities not only having a capability to counter after the illness through their own healthcare skills but also the information flow being such that you know people can be at ease and also can make plants whether it's people traveling on holiday or ORB or businesses. Or what have you it has a whole knock on effect certainly does and I think this is going to be something to watch and obviously for people who are in the public health space traditional traditional concern for a long time has always been the appearance of a new virus a new disease particularly Fowleri that spreads easily and that would go from being a localized incident to a global pandemic. That doesn't seem to be the case here but I think watching how governments respond directly to China's come respond to this issue can give you some sense of whether or how confident to be in how governments respond to the potential for a pandemic like instance Jim another migration Gratien of sorts that occurs. This time of year is to Davos Switzerland and that would be the World Economic Forum annual meeting this year about fifty or so heads of state from round the world travel there the focus. This year is supposed to be on sustainability in the environment. President trump plans to make the trip to attend the conference. So a lot to talk about. Obviously can you tell us a little bit about what to expect and why this Conference Matters Da. VOSE is probably the International Conference for Globalization and during the nineteen nineties going in the two thousands. It was the place to see and be seen was really sort of the physical manifestation notion that we were going toward a more integrated connected world with people in ideas and goods going across borders course for the last decade. The trend has been exactly the opposite direction. We're seeing serve the renationalization of politics. We are seeing a backlash against globalization. And that's why in some sense there ironies here in Davos and you note that president trump is going to. At least I should say as of now is scheduled to go to Davos whether he sticks that plan given the impeachment trial beginning next week. Is it's an open question. But as you mentioned the intro. The theme of Davos this year is sustainability and the environment. And there's going to be a lot of work about about how to improve or track progress on Paris Agreement and Sustainable Development Goals but obviously president trump is somebody who a I think embodies ladies the renationalization of politics trend but also is somebody who's been quite hostile to the idea that climate change is a real issue where the one that requires wires action by individual governments just last November. He formally notified the international community that the United States will withdraw from the Paris climate agreement at as soon as possible time in about two years. So it's a little bit of a disconnect between we're global trends are right now and certainly what the president of the United States champion. Uh and we just come through a decade. That's now been marked as the hottest on record so plenty to mine out of that conference that's supposed to be dealing with the environment. But you're right. I mean it's I think about what as you described as sort of the focal point of globalization and discussions and it used to be people who tended to be known as quote Unquote Davos Man. Even if they were woman was Davos man was this sort of symbol of the global figure astride the stage and when necessary Davos man would also exhibit aspects of Corporate Social Responsibility. It's not really clear. What's GONNA emerge from this year's Davos Jim? Even if president trump does not attend a certain land. I think you know one of the big questions that's going to obviously happen. Here is what kind of conversations are going to be happening on the side. These by lattes can be as important if not more important than whatever's formerly on the agenda now. I haven't seen any schedule. Come out of the White House in terms of what president trump's via lateral meeting schedule might look like I do know that at Davos. They're going to be an awful lot of trade and finance ministers gathering around and obviously for president trump trade policy is a big issue. He has been very critical international trade system. We just had the deal wrapped up with China. The so-called China Phase one trade deal which is either a major breakthrough according to the White House or not much of a breakthrough indeed even retreat. If you talk to the president's critics but obviously potential for a lot happening on the trade front as this goes down. I will note that Greta Thunberg the Swedish teenager who you caused some of us in sation. Last year was named Time's person of the year with Dabo's she other climate activists are going to be pushing very hard word for all the Dabo's attendees to halt all investments in fossil fuel exploration and extraction immediately end all subsidies to fossil fuel companies. BINNY'S I don't expect that effort to go very far in indeed. President trump represents the other end to that political debate because he has championed and and highlighted what is a trend that long predates his administration. Which is fossil fuel development here in the United States the development of fracking and the United States? It's really emerging as well. I think now we're the world's largest producer of oil and gas so that's another conversation is going to be at Davos and just to confirm you will not be going this sure Jim Bob. My rule is to go away from snow not toward snow got. It also wasn't invited Bob. Let's move onto our figures of the week. This week's audience figure which comes to US via via our twitter poll is deemed Putin Bob Wisey audience pointing to the President of Russia. Well to the surprise of exactly no one. The president of Russia has signaled that they're going to be some changes involved that position him to continue to serve Russia beyond the constitutional limit of two terms as president so his term as president runs out in two thousand twenty four. He took steps this week. That seemed to look like they will be enhancing the role of prime minister in Russia and in such a way that when twenty twenty four rolls around he himself could assume that role for the time being he has nominated the head of the Russian tax. Service Mikhail Shusen if I got that print station correct to step in and replace as Dmitry Medvedev in factories replacing the whole cabinet and there's a whole sorts of speculation. Obviously there's all it's all about president for life aspect but as well as why now what are the signals domestically. It's not really a surprise in some ways that he might want to shop around things. Domestically Russia has been striding the world stage in in a more muscular way. Recently whether you look to the Middle East or elsewhere swear by domestically its record is quite different. And it's I think the president is looking to maybe read things up on the local front meacham admit of it. The now ousted prime administer had a very low approval rating. Think he was sort of although he's been very loyal supporter of president is now seen as sort of sacrificed as part of this move. which is again is years ahead of time is setting the stage for Vladimir Putin to pivot into a next Sort of position of power. We should know he did this several years ago. I think two thousand eight two thousand twelve period where he was a prime minister who essentially lead the country while Mr Mendieta was president and then he became president again. It does not ogre well for Democratic trends in Russia. And it's a question Shindo about again to what extent these shuffle at the moment is going to lead in any policy change direction that not domestically internationally Bob. If we've seen any early reactions actions among ordinary Russians about this decision I asked because last year Russia saw fair number of local protests about the failures failures of the government are people turning out in the streets saying we want to keep the old system of government not change it not have a leader for life or war is the sense at least now for most Russians just shrug. Your shoulders is the way the world works at the moment appears to be a bit. More of the Shrug Jim than it filling up the streets in protest us. It doesn't mean that people are not concerned about it and that the people who were part of those protests have not voiced concern. We've seen discharge constitutional coup raised and also concerns about Out further clampdowns on public expression among the areas there's concern about is Internet. Russians are still able to convey formation express themselves on the Internet more freely than say China and Putin would like to emulate China model that Xi Jinping Model we should Xi Jinping is a year younger than Putin himself as orchestrated leadership for life model there and and he in prison she and President Putin have been making more common cause recently we should say so. Yeah I think it remains to be seen what steps might trigger Street Creek Protests Jim. But it's certainly a bit of angst by. I'm not sure whether it's going to end up to this point. So that doesn't look to be a viable anti-putin force operating operating in Russia. Right now no I would say now Jim Who or what is your figure? That week Bob. My figured week is a number and I'm going with the number three as in the e U three. That's a term of art for Germany Britain and France and their role in the Iran. Nuclear Deal in the e U three made news this week because they formally formally accused Iran violating the terms of the two thousand and fifteen nuclear deal. They did so extensively in response to Iran's announcement instrument back on January six that it was no longer going to abide by the deal and in fact had scrap limits on enriching the uranium. Now now I want to be very careful here that this move sets up the potential underscore potential for the enactment of what are called. Snap back back sanctions that is to reinstitute the sanctions that the United Nations had placed on Iran before the deal and that were lifted because of the deal it doesn't make that imposition implementation of snap back sanctions inevitable. All this is going to be subject to negotiation and also want to be clear that in doing this the EU three isn't joining the US maximum pressure campaign against Iran. I think what London Paris and Berlin are trying. China do is to get the Iranians to take a positive step that might be able to stimulate potential talks negotiations on this to get a new and and better deal. We will see how that plays out. I will note that the initial reaction from Iran was denounce the European move and so the initial situation doesn't seem conducive to a settlement but obviously when you're negotiating there's no incentive made the other side think you're about to give given or concede something even if may be willing to do so do the European states or the e three at least have much leverage at this point in terms of what kind of business they were doing or conducting their on. It seemed like there was a great deal of if not official and unofficial obeying of the US sanctions. That had been ramping up dramatically over the last several several months so that European firms wouldn't do business even leadership was was saying. Okay reality is no. They don't the fact is the United States is a dominant player in the international economy enemy. Certainly in the international financial system the trump administration is quite happy to impose so called secondary sanctions that is companies that aren't US companies. If they engage in traber there on the United States. Just shut him out of the. US market and as you point out most European firms looked around and said Iran markets small potatoes compared to being in the US market. So doesn't matter that Berlin or Paris or London want us to work with Iran not in our own corporate interest to do so. I don't think any of that is is going to change but I also think that if you look at the European Union it has served two big concerns one is that it worries about what will happen if the Iran deal in fact does come apart. They don't want a nuclear orange and they are skeptical that the maximum pressure strategy can produce regime change that will somehow how save us from having confront the fact of Iran moving toward a nuclear capability. I also think Europeans worry given their proximity to Iran about Aronie and operations clandestine operations on their soil in movement last several months of European countries publicly pointing to malign Linux activities by the Iranians in Europe so I think they also see it as a security threat. Now I guess the consensus in your it would be great if we could come back and get ah a better deal with. Iran's give up some more. The United States and Europe gets more from the Iranians and I think Prime Minister Boris Johnson of Great Britain said he wants to get trump deal and so maybe we will get a trump deal but that's by no means certain and we should note that Iran has always maintained. Officially it is not pursuing a nuclear weapons program not interested in such while it does resent the sanctions against a civilian nuclear program does not intend to and at the moment it also remains within the nuclear non-proliferation trees. UN inspectors are allowed to inspect various sites is correct. I think that's important to state that the Iranians continue to allow I e a Ian inspections and the Iranians have not do this point conducted anything to the best of our knowledge that would qualify as a breakout or surge in nuclear nuclear activity. But what about you Bob. Who are what is your figure? The Week Jim. I figured we person. And it is Mustafa custom this is an American citizen. WHO DIED in Egyptian prison this past week after he had been engaged in a series of hunger strikes protesting his imprisonment? He had been arrested and detained since two thousand thirteen sort of caught up in a crackdown by corruption President Abdel Fattah see after his military takeover. He was visiting at the time. And just as I said got caught up in something that truly seem to be beyond him and yet despite various appeals including right up to president trump he was never able to get his freedom of the president. We should know was able to secure the freedom. Some other Egyptian Americans in recent years but the case of Mister Qasim was not resolved it is unclear the extent to which official US channels are pressing Egypt on what happened here and whether or not there's going to be any a follow up to this but one would think that would happen given the sort of outspoken nature of the president's comments on other Americans held elsewhere in his touting of his track record on freeing them his UH national security advisor actually Robert O'Brien played a role previously in freeing Americans held unjustly and other countries including Iran. But this is a real test for the administration in some ways it also could could be interesting to see whether or not this death and the treatment of Mr Qasim because he was reportedly tortured repeatedly whether this sort of magnitsky style measures by the US Congress businesses in reference to Sergei Magnitsky. The the Russian lawyer who was killed in captivity and has Israeli triggered at a series of serious targeted sanctions against individuals in Russia and elsewhere. Why haven't we heard more about this case Bob particularly given two things one president trump has been quite happy to apply maximum pressure and lots of other governments we certainly have leverage average over the Egyptians but the other thing is you just mentioned? It's American citizen. Who have good reason to believe was being tortured absolutely Jim? I don't know I've been looking for more details on the case it does seem like it's a sort of thoroughly averaged guy who was tragically caught up in this case he was a I think he was a taxi driver back in on Long Island and perhaps APPs didn't have the sounding board he needed to get his his case Sort of escalated. Whatever appeals were made and there were certainly a number of reports from human rights bodies and himself in his own backers? It just did not seem to resonate. I will be curious to see how far this particular case continues persists in whether or not again there is some movement towards getting accountability from the Egyptians options. But the We should note. There's strong security relationship between the United States and Egypt Egypt was a very large recipient of US military aid and so that is a factor as well so it remains to be seen. Jim It's at the moment. It means a tragic case and a case that should cause some alarm for Americans to travel in countries with authoritarian leadership. Certainly really shut. Well that's our look at the world next week. Here's some other stories to keep an eye on U K Africa. Investment Summit is held in London and Russia marks the anniversary of Lennon's death. Please we subscribe to the world next week. Can Apple PODCASTS spotify. or every you get your podcast in Lima's review while you're at it to help us get noticed improved. Show please note that opinions expressing the world next week of solely those of the host or guests not of C. Afar which takes no institutional positions. Today's program was produced by so he calls with senior producer. Jeremy Sherline our recording according engineers were Anthony Berry in Sander special. Thanks in a short bridge assistant. Our theme music provided by Gail Herrero licensed under treated DOT COM. 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And I it's like I said, the quietest time of the year if you're a beat writer for seventy covers a team or someone who covers the league, this time, typically maybe to go on vacation, this is your rare chance inside or outside the league to kind of get a break. Unless you're team fires their general manager with no notice. And we're gonna talk about that today. We're gonna have the Cleveland Browns a little later on their situation. But I can talk about the Houston Texans talk about their GM situation today and cloudy situation in all kinds of stuff with their off-season with our ESPN reporter Sara, barshop, Sarah, how are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good. I have to ask you, so, you know the draft happens with the Texans simply it's kind of a quiet offseason, still a couple of things to get to, but nothing crazy, and then June seventh suddenly, the Texans, I believe on a Friday if I'm not mistaken fire. Their general manager Brian gain with very little notice. I mean how, how shocked were you that they made that decision when they did I was absolutely shocked? I mean one he was less than two years. This contract, he signed. So it's not even on my later. I mean, people are asking about Bill Byrne contract last year because just rebelled the beginning of the season, and I was like there's nobody who could fire there's no way count McNair would fi, you know, or Baba's Harewood fire Bill, so in the contract, and now you like, oh, well, maybe names business, and he doesn't care about that. So I was absolutely shocked everyone around the building was shocked even after I saw the news, because the team announced it, and I thought this is. This joke. Everyone I recap some people in the organization they're like, yeah, we just found out right before you guys did. So it was absolutely as fries for a lot of people, including myself him, seems like this is an organization that under Bob McNair was almost to a fault, really conservative when it came to the coaches GM's, someone like Gary kubiak, for example, his run as head coach. I mean, there are people calling for him to kind of move on years before he actually ended up being fired Rick Smits, someone who went through some controversy here. And there went through some lean years, but kept his job until he decided to leave last year. It seems like they have been they were really patient under McNair until he passed away. And now it seems like maybe that could be changing or is it just you think a one off? I think the fact that Nick that count McNair, even his big thing was he went through a he looked through the entire football organization, innovated everyone. I mean to even do that. I think shows that you just wanna make sure you're on the right path, and you're winning. I don't. I mean maybe a lot of teams owners do that. But in June, that seems kind you know, it seems really interesting. So I don't know that this is gonna he's gonna get be, you know, firing people left and right. But I think it signals to everyone organization that you're being evaluated and you're not safe doesn't matter. If you're under contract, you have to win. You have to prove that you belong here every single day. So in terms of evaluating game and you're really he said into his second season with the roll a guy who took over general manager, and then in last year's draft in the twentieth team draft and not have a first round pick or a second round pick, if I'm not mistaken. From the traits up for Shawn Watson Brock Osweiler. You know, some ups and downs certainly but guy took over a team that was not in the playoffs and that team that did make the playoffs a year ago. I mean is there can you piece together independently a case, I would make you think. Yeah, you know, this guy probably hasn't done enough and deserve to be fired. Or, or do you think there's just something else, sort of apply here? Did. She did the drafting. Well now other that is just hammers biller the stack you put together, you know, certainly everyone's involved. He took Justin read into third round to teach you in the fourth round the year, though. And then Gordon, Thomas tie-down who's probably gonna start from this year and the six round. I thought they had a very good draft last year. Obviously, we have no idea about this year. I think maybe free agency could be the area that the Texas ownership wasn't happy with. They were very quiet now. Other heave and hut. The tools to go out and make aggressive offers. I mean they were outfit for tire. Matthew, who a lot of people around the organization hopes to be back. They lost Jackson without even really bidding for him. So I would say frequency, probably had a little bit to do with it, but as the Texans as every other teen their cash budget is very different from what the actual cap spaces. So I mean, I don't know that was gained if he was handcuffed or what that was. If he didn't want to spend the money, but I think you can point that slow free. Maybe the reason they took a look at the. Yeah. I mean, I guess that makes sense and certainly they were holes in that roster last year that they did try and get Nate solar, and that deal ended up going to the giants and doesn't look right after year. Matthew, I mean signed for one year last season but really good deal. It seems like turned out really well Aaron Kovin not so much. I mean, the guy who was really wasn't even playing the end of the first season with the with the team is certainly some ups and downs there. But it's really interesting. And of course, the natural progression was okay. We'll who were they going to hire good came pretty clear pretty quickly, that they were going to target an Caserio from the patriots? And do you think that they made this move sort of thinking, okay, we're making this knowing we're going to be able to or thinking, very strongly, we're going to be able to get Nicotera? I don't believe you can make that move to fire. Fire Brian game, who from everything? I've been told it was not something. I mean it was just that they didn't feel he's doing good enough shop. It wasn't no scandal, wasn't one big thing that they said, okay, you've got to go, so if there's nothing that really pushes you over that point, except that you look at us work as a home and you just side. You're not happy with it. I mean you have to believe that you're gonna get Nicosia area. I don't see that there's any other reason that you make that move if you don't have the person in mind, you don't fire someone on June seventh. If you don't know who you're going after. Right. I absolutely agree. It just it just makes no sense. Right. Like, like the fact that they came out so quickly afterwards, it wasn't like they went through an interview process, and then suddenly realized they wanted Caserio. It seemed like it was almost you know, by the end of that weekend. It was okay. Well, they're going to be going after Nicosia. Did you think they're going to have the same sort of troubles, ended up having do you think that they kind of figured? They were going to be able to get Caserio without paying compensation. I think the. Come out is that in his contract, he has this quad. This says he can interview with their teams. They said they worked with leak calms down near set in the statements of the league, make sure they were born all of this. You're telling me that if they did that and they went through the league they didn't know about this clause in the contract to me that doesn't really add up. So I have to believe this FA we're going to get him. But either I mean I don't know what happened there. But the fact that this painting get vetted before and all came out, seems kinda crazy to me, it does seem bad. It does seem like they should've maybe figure that out in advance before they fire their general manager when after Caserio at this point, it seems like it's not going to happen at the very least this off season. So given where they are now given that they fired given that they're not going after Caserio or they can't get Caserio right now. Do you think they wait? Maybe wait till the off season after twenty nineteen to go after Caserio again. Do. Think they go after someone else now. Or are they going for a temporary higher? I mean, what do you what do you do at this situation that's developed into such a mess? Out of nowhere. Adam Schefter reported that strongly considering having the team in place in the staff in place. Take over the roles of the GM split amongst everyone to me that seems I mean, everyone has a general manager is like I don't doubt that the staff they haven't played can do this. But there's a reason that everyone else has general manager now, if because here goes your guy, and you believe that you can get him after the season. And there's no point in hiring temporary Jenner voter. Can't do anything really until tan cuff in the writings on the wall that they would then if because hero became available. They would then try and hire him in fire this temporary higher. So right now, looks like going garden to be in charge of personnel. Jack Easterby who came over from New England so season he charged football operations Chris Olsen was doing contracts, which are does now. And then, and that's an error all our McNair. But to me, what's interesting does that the day, the. The first press conference we had after dragging was fired. We talked to build bone, and he said, someone asked him about, like, do you feel like you're going to get more time out of the situation, basically? And he said, I don't even think about power, but you look at this Bill O'Brien is in charge of all of the personnel. I mean essentially use the general manager right? I mean in all practical matters, it seems like he would be the general manager in that situation. And I, I will just say, I find it hard to believe that Bill O'Brien has not thought about power when it comes to the football operations of an NFL team, let alone this very particular NFL team. I mean, do you think. It seems like there has been some criticism levied towards Brian that he may be difficult to work with. Do you think that's fair, given what's happened over the past few years in Houston, or is he just someone who you know, maybe demands a lot out of the people he works with? I probably, you know, everyone looks differently with other people now someone asks them about that. And he said, I mean depends who you ask right? Like I try and be, you know, to work with but I know on demanding sensually, and he said that when thing he feels like he needs to work on his communication. So if you read between the lines there, maybe you know, he feigned didn't have a great relationship didn't communicate well towards the end. Maybe that's reason why. They felt like each other were difficult to work with. But yeah, I like you don't believe that he has never thought power and thinking about the only other team in the league, I believe right now that has the head coach of the general federal managers came person. They'll check in New England. And certainly it seems like Bill. Bell track is someone who over the years is sort of earned that, right? Right. Like, like you can't really argue with Bill Bill check success, but Bill O'Brien. They've been successful franchise, while he's been there, generally, but not necessarily the best with personnel and not necessarily a team that has been quite as successful as the patriots have been burnt, Sarah. Let's talk about the rest of the Texans off season, the and clowney contract situation in a moment, but first guys, they say a great offense starts with a great defense, and that's especially true. When it comes to the fuel, you put in your car shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline is engineered with four levels of defense against gunk, where corrosion, and friction to help keep your engine running like new, and now you and your car have even more reasons to celebrate with the shell great gas giveaway your chance to win free fuel for a year or one of thousands of. Prizes with a total price value of over a million dollars. If you a fuel rewards member, you'll automatically receive one entry every time you fill up with eight gallons or more. 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If healthy you have a very good offense Fullerton say healthy KiKi to say face. But that's a big if so I think there are still a lot of the biggest one was the offensive line, and they dress that, but I don't know that they did enough to address it. You don't who knows what these draft picks? You know they tackle with they had three picks in the first round, and they took Titus Howard in the first round pick twenty three in the fifty five took Matt Scharping from northern Illinois. Now, those guys who maybe we'll be ready. Maybe they'll play guards this year but I don't know how many tackles in their first uses are ready to provide the same production that Shawn Watson needs. So I don't know how much offensive line got better. No. You don't wanna pay overpay freeze for tackles. It hasn't always works. Fast melt Silva. But I think they need to do maybe a little bit more on the offense of running, and it's showing off and doesn't have time to throw the bell. No, he owns the phone. It's the bed for vile because of the style plays very mobile quarterback, six then plays, but if they can't fix up part of the offense, it doesn't matter who you're throwing to necessarily, if you, you know if he's getting hit, and he doesn't make it through the season healthy this year. Absolutely. I mean, those guys Titus hired you mentioned Maxx shopping, I think they'd both be, you know, sort of charitably described as projects guys who could turn out to be incredible football players down the line, and no could be molded into, you know, very valuable offensive lineman guy. So you would not necessarily expect to like you said, make that sort of immediate impact as starter week one of twenty nine thousand Nick, it could happen, certainly. But I don't think that's one of those guys were evaluated heading into the season. The guy who did bring in a veteran, this off say, someone Matt Kalil who didn't play last year that major injury issues. Jeez, pretty much his entire career after the first season and. A guy who has not lived up to expectations after that, first year in Minnesota, and then most recently in Carolina. So it really does feel like they're sort of, you know, they're, they're sort of on a precipice here where if you have guys stay healthy, and you guys not, you know, guys stay healthy and then guys development quicker than we are expecting this could be an absolutely terrifying. Offensive if all these guys are on the field at the same time, but it's really scary to think about the same time to the offense, lineman don't work if it's just Watson running for his life guy, who you know, has an injury history himself offense could go south really quickly if they can't keep Watson on the field. Data that data to absolutely if the pick our division winner. And I hope I mean I just think with watching Andrew luck last year tells me he's just as good as he was foreign is geared impressive games. I saw place. And some it's not like you're beating up on the teams in your division anymore. Jacksonville Nicole, so those are not tougher gains and it's not just necessarily get passed to the playoffs as a baby was a couple years ago for a little easier, you know. So I think it's gotten harder and you can't discount that when you look at what the Texans are going to do here. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean this was a division that sent to teams the playoffs last year. You know, obviously came within a game of Sunday, thirteen possibly as a wildcard. I mean this was eight or not a game but you know, certainly a winning record in in. Third in Tennessee. Jacksonville was a division winner as recently as Yuriko almost a Super Bowl team out of the AFC. So the Texans finished anywhere from first to fourth, honestly, n. Any of those positions wouldn't shock me. And I think let me ask you this, if they do struggle, if they do finish third or fourth nece division, if they don't make the postseason new think they will be at least from the fans side of things there will be sort of a inquest towards moving on from Bill O'Brien and sort of blaming him for the issues with this ball team at don't have hired, Jim. Like, I don't know how many decisions he can actually make now in terms of who we can add the rest or just because where we are in the year. But if he's had what seven months of being in charge of personnel, and they don't win encountered near is now shown that maybe contracts don't really mattered him and you just want to win. I'm not saying that they will fire him to stay have a bad year, but certainly the fans that Houston will be calling for him. I think it's absolutely fair and the other issue that still has to be sort of decided this off season. That is the contracts that associating cloudy who. Franchise. I think that makes sense, given that they were not close to a long term deal someone you don't want to leave by any means. But there's been very little movement. It seems like in his contract negotiations this deal that I figured it'd be very tough to negotiate heading into this offseason and really has not looked any different over the course of last few months. Do you think they are any closer to a deal than they were two or three months ago and sort of what's the most likely outcome of the Geneva inclining situation, both in the short term for Houston in nine thousand nineteen and then in the long term. In fact, that they didn't regain Dreamin last year before the season, kind of tells me, how far apart decides her. I mean typically, that's when they extend guys, that's when you hook and got his big contract. Now, of course, Hopkinson very healthy and very consistent Connie hits of injury history beginning career. But he's missed his lung game in the past two seasons. So he's proven himself. He's proven how good he can be in the fact that they weren't ready to pay him, then tells me that key, perhaps wants more money than they're willing to give him now I'm sure that is for almost any contract negotiation. But, you know, he's probably looked at the number. That's who he'll MAC daughter earned that he wants that. Now, I don't believe he's the caliber, he's shown that purview those players, but they look at the money for, you know the year he was drafted in the position he plays. And then that's the number out there right now. If the Texans don't wanna play that I just I don't see this getting done certainly before the. July his kids up on everybody. Took this. You're on the franchise. I think a hold out for training camp. I don't think he'll miss regular season games and more than a million dollars a game. I think he'll be out there, especially if he wants to contract, and they'll have to cap space to franchise them again. Now he doesn't want to be here because he's frustrated about that. You know, maybe you try and trade them. I think they wanna the field more than they'd be willing. They want anyone for him. So I don't know. I, I just up this point signed it hard to believe that he'll sign a long term deal in Houston based on the negotiations offense afar. Absolutely. I mean, they think about even even beyond that sort of top tier of Cleal MAC and von Miller. Look at Trey flowers, a guy who know very underrated player with the patriots, someone who was very valuable in the playoffs. Is this a solid to a player but doesn't have the sort of upside, or explosiveness that has different cloudy has he got five years, nineteen million when he hit free agency client is gonna hit rate, and see if they don't if they don't franchise for the season? He'll be twenty seven. I believe hitting free agencies with the prime of his career someone who has been healthy over the past couple of years like you said, wildly explosive guy who could be, you know when he's on his game possible defensive player of the year candidates that good just hasn't been necessarily putting together full sixteen game season any point so far. I mean you know, he's I can see both sides of this argument. I just think that for the Texans I mean. Are you really going to be happier if you let him go? I mean this is a team that has the shown Watson right now making a fraction of what he's worth in terms of his contract. So if you're ever going to go out and pay to incredible pass rushers, JJ watt and cloudy, you know, sixteen seventeen million dollars a year. Well, this is the time to do it. So I it sort of, you know, I can understand why they don't want to buy him at that level. But I think it's pretty clear that if he hits free agency, someone is going to value him at that level. Right. And that's why I'm assuming that he and his sides are not willing to settle because they know if he is a free agent dictate. But if you're the Texans is this not the time I mean, this is your Super Bowl into right? You have to expect and hope that he'll be very good for many years. But this is the Tom like you said, he's honest repeal. They have the money to put guys around him to pay clowney. If it's a seems like they should. I mean and certainly it seems like if they don't pay him. And they end up having a disappointing season and cloudy news on after the year, I think someone's going to get the blame for this and it's probably not going to be Brian game who's no longer there. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I think this is a really important Caesar Bill Brian. You told us that after Amos fires Cao sat down him and said, I've got some very, you know, these are the things you need to do to improve and Bill wouldn't tell us what they were. But he said that calendar. Very clear vision of what he wants his organization to look like in the goals. He wants to hit and I have to believe that Bill, Brian does not either show progress or hit those goals that, you know, McNair, we'll do another thorough evaluation next off. So, what would be not knowing would necessarily that criteria were what do you think would be successful season for the Texans? That would satisfy the fan base and have them excited about, you know, the twenty twenty season by the time twenty nineteen is over. I think a playoff win. You know they have one unload Bryant. And that was over over Connor cook in the raiders last you know, in twenty six with Brock Osweiler. So they've been blown out multiple times in the house, you know. So it's one thing to have a good regular season but I think they need to make the playoffs, and I think they need at least a win now they've never been to an AFC championship game. And I'm not saying that's what the next step is in terms of it has to happen this year, but I would think in the next couple of years. That's what McNair listen for Jeff talents there. I think there's very few teams in football. The have the core of young top level talent that Texans have. It's just whether it's Brian, whether it's the holes in the roster something else, they just haven't been able to get that next level. But we'll check it out this upcoming season and Sarah, if people want to check out your Texans coverage where can they do that? Find me on Twitter at at, sir barshop and between no my stuff fair. Or if you go to texins page on ESPN all be there as well. Eric, thanks much. We're going to get back here on the Bill Barnwell show Jake Trotter talking about the Cleveland Browns and their off season in a moment, high Fuster, only here and my friends at marathon, are really helping you save. 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But no, that's very nice of you to say happy to have you on the college football for us for a long time. So happy to have him on the NFL happy to have you on the Browns and you're joining the cover. I think one of the most fascinating teams in football at the moment, which even a year ago would have been crazy to say about the Cleveland Browns, but a lot has happened in twelve months, a lot has happened. They finish incredibly well last year, and then had arguably definitely most interesting off season. I think if anybody and maybe the best depending on how it how it pans out. But I think when you stack what they are on paper with the narrative of it'd be in Cleveland having been so long since they were good. I think makes for an extremely compelling season in Cleveland and probably the most intimated one since the Browns came back. In the late nineties down. And it certainly seems like that. I absolutely feels like this is a this is one of the Martines in football right now in a way that I think it hasn't been like you said, really made any point since the Browns came back from there, there's sort of hiatus in between the, the old Brown two years in the this new Browns franchise. You talked about the off season. And when we did grades for the offseason, they SPN the Braskin on is I believe the best if not one of the best grades of any team for their off season, the work at I can't find a reason to poke a hole in that there's nothing about this offseason that makes me think, oh, well, they screwed this up or, or they necessarily the overpaid for this or that, I mean, if you were playing devil's advocate, if there was something you wanted to point out and say, oh, well, maybe that might not work out as, as Browns fans are hoping or maybe there's a reason to be skeptical about this. There was something that, you think you know, one of the moves they made might not work out, perhaps as promised. Only as a, you know, it might seem on paper at the moment. I it's really hard to make that case. Now to get Odal you had to make a trade, right? And you can defensive line a little bit offensively. That's, that's clearly, the big question Mark came. They protect can they block defensively. I think they're couple areas where they traded some depth away from safety, but no I mean, I think the big moves they made the defensive line to me has a chance to be in. This is Freddie kitchens opinion, the strength of the entire team and one of the best in the NFL and then you add a talent like Odell. I mean, you know, we'll see how the chemistry works, but when you have an opportunity to add a player like that you have to you have to do it, and I think, you know his comraderie with, with not only Baker Mayfield. The Jarvis Landry has the chance to form something really special in the passing game. Yeah, I think I have -solutely. As, as someone a group at the giants fan. I, I would say, I heartily that went Oto Beckham is available that you should trying to choir him, or perhaps you should keep him. But unfortunately that that move is made that the ship is sale. No Beckham is a member of the Cleveland Browns on the flip side of this, there certainly made a bunch of additions and most of them were pretty well known player. Sherwood Beckham's, your Sheldon, Richardson's, your VA Vernon's, is there, someone you think they added this off season whether was in free agency or in the draft that you think might have the opportunity to explode a little bit might have the opportunity to break out more than than Browns fans. Exactly right now, as I think about the roster and who might be oppressive for them this year. Well in order to acquire a deal they had to trade away first-round Ron pig. So they weren't able to draft anybody until the second round they moved up into greedy Williams out of LSU. And that was a guy that I think a lot of people felt like had a chance to go in the first round. I think he's a first round. Talent and he was one of the big storylines at minicamp. And you know, had to pick six in one situation and just made a lot of place was competitive, and I think they feel like within zone at one side in greedy on the other for that, for the next few years, they have a chance to have a formidable cornerback duo, which I think would really complement their defense align. Obviously very well. So I think really in the way that Denzel emerged for them early on last year. I think has the chance to do the same thing. And you know he's not a first round draft pick, but I think he has a chance to make that kind of impact for this team. I mean, you think about Cornerbacks and the NFL usually they do struggle as rookies even even your role Rivas guys who ended up being phenomenal players. They're pretty bad. Usually as rookies you look at Denzel award. He was excellent as a rookie cornerback. So you would hope that really Williams can deliver that, that same sort of impact, and then suddenly, you have to really impressive cornerback on the division where. You have wide receiver. So we're going to move around. You have your AJ grants. You have your Tyler Boyd Cincinnati. You have of course, Jewish Schuster nine Antonio Brown anymore, but juju over in Pittsburgh, who's going to be a player who can move around and sort of challenge you on both sides of the fields. I you know, you need to Cornerbacks went in the NFL at this point. And this was a team that they were getting by at the other corner facts about last year without Denzel award. But I think certainly the upside there and that's secondary is so much higher than it was even when year ago. It gives them more versatility to so they can they can play TJ Carey in nickel spot. They can play three corners feel confident and playing three corners more. So just having a guy like greedy at the other spot. I think will allow the overall unit to be better not just that particular one as well, urgent. Let's talk more about the Browns off season and their expectations for twenty nineteen in a moment. But first guys, finding a new job is a lot of work. And what if you had your own personal cruder to help you find a better job now ZipRecruiter's technology, which, of course, we used to talk about from the employers side of things can also do that for you? Potential employees to get that just download the ZipRecruiter job search app. Let it know what kind of jobs, you're interested in and its technology starts doing the work for you. Sip recruiter finds jobs. 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Replacing Desmond Harrison who was recently cut, but the guy who was committed more penalties than anybody else in football. When he's been on the field and committed the penalty, I believe sorry. No. Getting rid of the penalty, I think in every game he started last year. It could be mistake on that, but pretty close a lot of penalties. Do you think there's another position, besides left tackle that would worry Browns fans? Or do you think it's just going to be the offense of line? That's that's really the biggest concern for them heading into the regular season. Well along the offense align, I think, right? Guard is is a spot to watch which the Vernon trait created a vacancy and it looks like Austin Corbett is going to get the first crack there. But, you know, he's an unproven player, they drafted drew Forbes in the middle rounds out of a small school in Missouri. And I think he's more of a developmental guy at this point. But I think in time, you know, he could he could really bolstered him in a lot of versatility, as well, whether it's inside or outside, but, you know, I think I think you know safety is, is a little bit of a question Mark, if we're going to expand it out. It's talking about them addressing the quarterback situation, but they have got a Morgan brunette. They've got the mirrors ran on a contract year. They have confidence there. But I think if you're looking at the defense. Okay. Like, we'll see how that works. They traded for Eric Marie from the chiefs with Dorsey avenue connection to him back in Kansas City. So again, like I this is not a perfect team Bill. I mean we can we can pick at a couple of spots, but I don't see like any overwhelming glaring weakness item, which I think, is important as well. It's not like there's an area on paper going into the season where you say now they've got to do something to address that, at least early on at least in the off season it looks like even where there may be a little bit deficient. They look okay. Yeah. And I think this is the vision where there aren't you know, there's no perfect team in this deficient. The Bengals have, you know, their offensive line has been a mess really worse than the Browns up lying on paper heading into the season. And certainly some holes there on the defensive side of the ball. Spell Baltimore loss ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball, several valuable starters, most notably. CJ Moseley and Lamar Jackson entering his second season. As quarterback they're they're in transition on offense. And certainly we've heard reports that there are some struggles there in, in sort of installing Greg Romans offense there in Baltimore. And then Pittsburgh again, team that lost Mike munch on offensive line coach Lebanon Bellas on the roster last year. But they lost Levy Balan. Of course they traded Antonio Brown for a couple of mid round picks lost a superstar wide receiver so reasons to think their offense might not be as good as it was a year ago and they had holes in the secondary and at linebacker last year as well. And they they've made some additions, they may end up working out, but this is not a division where it feels like the Browns are significantly deficient in terms of talent, relative to the rest of the division in a way that has not been the case, maybe ever during their run on the AFC north since coming back the window is there, and I think we're talking about expectations really to me, there are three factors that go into it how they finished last year with with Baker quarterback in this success. They had with Freddie kitchens as the OC in some. Of the things they did the last half of the season. What they did the off season trading, Adele bolstering the defensive line drafting green Williams, and then what has happened to the AFC north and, and those teams in chipped away against a little bit. So. Are they the favorite to win the north FBI thinks they are at thirty five point five percent? You know, even they haven't wanted division title since eighty nine which is, I think the longest active drought. It would have to be right. Nine wins feels like sort of the barometer for them. And I look at the schedule. It's not it's, it's, it's not it's not the most difficult in the NFL by any means it feels like they can get their to ten wins. I mean, I think that that is there for them because of who they play. In the division. But also, you know how much better this team is compared to what where it was two years ago. Yeah. I was gonna ask you. I mean I, I was gonna actually with that. But I'll just get to it now. In terms of fan base expectations. This is a team that was seven eight and one last year there year removed from being an Owen sixteen team. And then, before that, I wanted fifteen team, this is eighteen is I've had a winning record since two thousand seven and before that two thousand to do think that a nine seven record will be satisfying result for Browns fans, if they don't make the playoffs or is it really just playoffs or bust sort of satisfy expectations heading into the season? I think it's a disappointment if they don't make the playoffs. I don't I don't think so I have to win the division but if they're not in the playoffs. It's a disappointment given everything that they have done. And you know, it's interesting when you look at this franchise and just be new to the scene. There's this weird combination of like just bridled excitement about what this team could become with a sense of a heavy dose of it, like ominous fatalism. And I think that on paper if you. If this was just like a team vacuum. It wasn't Cleveland, you know, we'd be saying, okay, this is a team that has a chance to make a deep run in the playoffs. But because it's the Browns there's always a caveat that well they look good. And I can go through a bunch of different numbers, that would suggest that they have a chance to be top ten authencity defensively this year without that much difficulty. And yet, I think that because it's Cleveland people are waiting for it to maybe not work out something to happen with ode L Baker at a regress or whatever. But I mean I to me given what they have on this team if they don't make the playoffs a disappointment. I agree I agree with you. I think there's some element of which is Cleveland, I know a couple years ago, I wrote about the Browns and their one or fifteen. And I said, hey, the numbers say this is the most likely team in football to improve and they went and sixteen. And then I. And then I. You know, may babies just maybe it's Cleveland. And maybe I'm just the numbers can account for that. But then the never say they were going to improve last year. It's hard to get worse than on sixteen and they went seventy one so. There. It feels unfair. Right. Like Baker Mayfield has not been a member of the Cleveland Browns for twenty years Oto Beckham has been there for a matter of months. I mean, there's, there's nothing to stick these guys with that should have any sort of stigma. They have been successful players at the college level and at the professional level. So you would figure that, that there's nothing to really define extent. But it does feel like they're going to have to make the playoffs for that to go away. And once they do you would figure if they're competitive team this year if they win the north if they make the playoffs, they'll be in good shape going forward. They have Baker for two more years at a relatively cheap cap number. They have a very competent general manager. It looks like in John Dorsey. The only thing you might look towards might have questions about, I guess would be the coaching situation where you have Freddie kitchens, who was not, very experienced coach at this level, and then they Brigham Todd monk, and as the in their reports from NFL networks, make silver that there is some difficulty happening in their, the tide and has been struggling to. Get the offense going ask the offensive coordinator, which granted seems very early in the process, but he's been struggling, and it's been more, Freddie kitchens, and perhaps people were expecting. Do you put a lot of stock in those reports? It's something that you think Browns fans need to watch for. Is it just sort of a quiet time in there? Some people have to report something kind of feels like the ladder to me, and I'm not comment on the report itself, but, you know, Todd monkey and, you know, well respected NFL coach had a chance to be a head coach this go around, and I think has a terrific chance to be head coach down the line somewhere as well. You know, OT as they didn't have very many guys there. They didn't have Adele. They didn't have do Johnson. Jarvis Landry was Nick dub. So we basing this on three days and minicamp, really two and a half. I, I don't know how you can make that determination. Just yet considering how short it's been with this group together. So I, I think you have to give it way more time before you make a determination that it, it's not working or that there is some trouble at the same time, there's a lot of pressure on Freddie kitchens, right for as a rookie head coach to produce because of like, like, like we said, you know, everything that they've done leading up to this point of the last twelve months. So he he's going to be under a lot of pressure to win rookie head coats on a franchise that hasn't been in the playoffs in forever since two thousand two but I do think that his personality seems to mesh pretty well with this group, you know, lot of big personalities when you talk about Baker when you talk about Odell and others. Freddie is more low key know pretty pretty straightforward comes off very down to earth. And, you know, like with the first minicamp is my first day on the job, basically, and it was like Duke Johnson reiterates he wants to be traded. You know, it's on salvageable Baker Mayfield says that, you know, he's basically tired of this, and, you know, it's time for him to get on the train like it's all this drama right off the bat, and then you look out. And you can't you're watching practice and fried. He's got his arm around. Do Johnson know talking to them and not ostracizing him by any means because that's a guy if he stays in helped him because they don't have Kareem hunt until the second half of the season, potentially. So I think that just my survey shin. And again, it's a really small sample size. But I think his personality has a chance to mesh really well with the players that they have in that locker room. And at the end of the day, it's going to come down to those players in producing to their capability. And I think with Freddie, there that has a chance to happen quickly as an aside. I mean, do you think there's anything to that Baker Mayfield? Duke Johnson story or is it sort of just it's already in the past, and it was just a sort of a tempest in a teacup. Yeah. I mean, I it's interesting, I've covered Baker since twenty thirteen. I mean my very first assignment as is our ESPN's big twelve college football reporter was Baker Mayfield verse Garrett Gilbert, Texas Tech process, and you actually covered LSU TCU the next night in Arlington, which was they had these two receivers by the name of Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham. It's kind of come full circle. It is interesting. So I'm very used to Baker in the way he talks. I mean he yesterday he's, he's bussing same etlinger the Kodak at Texas State. He doesn't like him. I mean this is just Baker beat himself and having fun. And I don't know that he's quite done that yet in Cleveland until recently. You saw it a little bit last year with you. But you he comes in. He's not really given a chance to win the starting job. He's a rookie and I think that he's we're starting to see Baker again who he really is. And it's just stuff that he's going to speak, his mind. He's going to be candid and. That never affected the locker room at Oklahoma. I mean those guys loved him and they went to the playoff two out of three years. That's just his style. And I think is like oh del Jarvis. I think they they are really going to be drawn to that and really have so far. So. I don't think it's it's going to be ultimately big deal. And if it becomes a big deal, they'll just have to trade him for a death round pick or whatever and make do but you know to me right now just in the off season. These things seem like a bigger deal than they may be really are. And there's something that lingers in the training camp. I think it's something they'll address them in terms of Freddie catch him except finish here in terms of this season. If the Browns don't get to the point, we're expecting if they don't get to that nine seven record, if they stacked in, if there's seven and nine seven eight one again, if the take a step backwards in their six and ten or five and eleven do you think they're that Freddie kitchens is going to be the one who takes the blame for that is something where you could see them, theoretically, at least considering making a move after one season, which they've done under this ownership grouping in years past. Or do you think it's sort of turned over a new leave? And they're. Going to be patient with Freddie kitchens. Even if it doesn't go as well as maybe we're expecting at this point of the off season. What he given the track record of the ownership, you would think that I mean, if they go five and eleven Bill and it's a mass on the I could see them making a move couldn't you? I, I don't think his job is safe. No matter what now you know, if it's eight they just missed the playoffs. I think that's a different conversation and they'll have to evaluate it based on, on how they think the season went. But I mean if they go five and eleven that's that's a, that's a disaster for this team. And I think they definitely would have to evaluate the situation. Now, I don't think you are predicting that's going to happen. But if it did then then with a rookie head coach, they're going to have to say, okay, where did things go wrong, and where can we right the ship because they're not going to get rid of Baker and Odell? You know, those the players are going to be the players, you know, if there's an adjustment, that's gonna come. It's gonna it's gonna be the coaching staff level. Absolutely. Well Jake, I think a lot more brand stuff to come during the season. What have you back on during the year to chat about that? But if people want to check out your Browns coverage work, and they do that they can check it out on ESPN dot com. The NFL page, the Brown stage on ESPN and then, and then obviously, you can find me on Twitter, Jake underscored Trotter. I've got a lot of new Cleveland followers in the left. Month or so. And it had some great restaurants, Jessen. So keep those coming the only place I've been to in Cleveland that I can recommend the, the Michael Simon barbecue restaurant, which was awesome. Okay. And that's that's been on that's on my list. So now that you've brought it up definitely gonna hit it up and now barbecue in Cleveland is I mean, you know, I'm, I'm from the south west, I lived in Austin, so I'm tad bit skepticism know like with the Browns this season far Cleveland is a little bit of skepticism, but I'm definitely going to give it a shot so about it, too. Yeah, you gotta leave. It's belief lately. That's true. I didn't even occur to me, but that is really pointing, thanks so much. Okay. Thanks bill. We're gonna come back next week. Get away a little bit from the Texans Browns, maybe some other elements of the NFL. So a lot of stuff happening during the quiet time and more NFL coverage, like I said along the way, so thanks so much for listening. Thanks for sticking with us during that three pages. And I was on vacation back with weekly coverage of the NFL and often sports here on the Bill.

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And of course simulcast over the live national television airwaves of the SPN news number to call triple eight say ESPN that's eight, eight eight seven, two, nine, three, seven, seven, six jam packed show coming your way today time for straight. Talk brought to you by straight talk wireless, best phones, best networks, no contracts, lots of stories to get into the day. Make no mistake about it. Stuff to talk about Zeke. Elliot had to say about Dak Prescott some games to get into featuring. We've got the Rams going up against the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday night football today, definitely stuff to get into James. Winston had a few things to say, yes, they will be talking about that. Of course, on the NBA side, there's LeBron James and Luke Walton calling him a close in saying, that's the main this Kevin Durant and he's under appreciated and underestimated as a defensive player. This kyri. Ervin talking about the Celtics, what he expects from them this year. And one of those things include winning the championship because they're more than capable of beating the Golden State Warriors. But the first auto business, the first order of business, of course, I got Tedy Bruschi coming on our number two, it's well. The first order of business ladies gentlemen, breaking news over the last hour and a half or so ago. The Carolina Panthers have signed forty, nine or safety, former forty, nine and safety. Eric re to a one year deal. If you recall, Eric ry was without a job, couldn't find a home despite being a quality safety in the National Football League. Now, there will be people that will point to what he was it some mistakes that he made on the football field, etc. Etc. And lament the fact that everybody was going off about him not having a job, but the fact is those people would be informed because while you look at him and see a perennial all pro or anything like that. The brother can play. He could play better than a lot of people that were in the National Football League that are in a National Football League. And the reality is, is that he shouldn't have been without a job buddy was, and we all knew why. Because read was one of the more prominent players who joined Colin capper Nick in kneeling during the national anthem in twenty sixteen to protest social injustice and racial inequality. He had gone side to out the off season and into the start at a regular season despite up Follett season playing multiple roles in San Francisco last year, reading from NFL dot com. But we also know that the Carolina Panthers needed help that to save these because the research one on injured reserve before week three was looking cushion. Carolina safety struggled last week against the Cincinnati Biggles backup. Colin Jones. Got the start. The team turned a rookie Shawn golden during a win, but they're not evergreen. And if you the Carolina Panthers when you consider the kind of trouble that former owner, Jerry Richardson got into because for some reason over the past decade. He was, let's say, acting inappropriately towards women and ultimately was forced to sell it easy. And so under under new ownership here come, the Carolina Panthers and overall story, and all of this transcends a particular market. It ain't about Carolina is about the National Football League, and it's not just about the National Football League this about the public launch. As we sit here today. And if you turn the CNN Fox News MSNBC or anybody else, you know what's going on supreme court justices and testimony being given. We don't need to get into that. But the fact that the matter is with all of that stuff going on for some reason, millions upon millions of people were preoccupied with supporting common capitec and anybody who supported him being with out of job. Because they had to d'amerique the unmitigated, gall exercise their rights as American citizens and take a knee during the national anthem. Now on the record saying it's not something I would have done. I understood how it would be interpreted. I would have deemed it not worth it, and it's not something that I would have done not to mention. I wouldn't want to be a distraction to the National Football League because my protests would not have been against the National Football League. If protecting. Social Justice issues and racial inequality issues against the National Football League. Then I might have used the National Football League Sunday afternoon sidelines as a platform put because my argument was never against the National Football League. If I'm playing for the National Football League, I would not have chosen that venue to make that point out of respect and support of the league upon which is a neighboring meet and make millions upon millions of dollars. That would have been my position. But that doesn't mean that I'm devoid of recognizing. The fact that it was perfectly within his colleague happenings, right to feel otherwise and to exercises, right. Not just as an American citizen, but as a National Football League player because there was no rule in place prohibiting him from taking a knee. If he worked for the national for the National Basketball Association, he would have been in violation of their rules because it's in their contracts to stand for the national anthem, the same as applicable to the major league baseball. The same is applicable to the National Hockey League. So had he done it in one of those in us, he would have been in violation of it, but the same National Football League. Who Senator John McCain former Senator, John McCain, God rest. So who just passed away recently once purport it, the National Football League, like other leagues heading gauged paid, patriotism, courtesy of the defense department who was given the league's millions of dollars to do that to promote the military to promote patriotism. And since they was doing. So to me, it was incumbent upon the National Football League to make sure it was inserted in the play contracts that to had to stand for the national anthem dammit. They've been getting money for the defense department since two thousand seven or two thousand eight and never found it within themselves to compel a play to stand for the national anthem. It was never in their contract. It was never in their contract. What the NFL said is we strongly encourage, they never mandated. And if you never mandated, then that very player that you chose to ostracize, you chose to ostracize him instead of pointing to your negligence and deficiencies in not making sure that that mandatory clean was put into these contracts. To wash, should you be allowed to hold it against Collor capping. Or anybody like Eric Reed and others who are willing to support him. Now the owners identifying around and say this business, and they have a good point ladies and gentlemen, it is about business. It is about their bottom line. They didn't give a damn that Colin Kaepernick was Neilan. What they care about is once it came to the attention that it may have been affecting their bottom line. And as a result, the Bob McNair is Jerry Jones and others were saying, no, you will not do that. Jerry Jones don't give a damn about patriotism. Jerry Jones gives a damn about green. Jerry Jones is in the business of making money. You just saw everybody bloviating about the fact that the Dallas Cowboys are worth five billion dollars right? That's what Jerry Jones cares about. And if his bottom line is going to be compromise, as I was told, he told to the Dallas cowboy players in a meeting last season. This is not a football meeting. This is a business meeting, and if you take that position your bottom line, and if you affect my bottom line gonna FEC yours, that's business. You may not like it, but to got gotta respect it. But here's where the times have gotten tricky for the National Football League. Member how we all made the noise about Colin capping acc- being the face of Nikes thirtieth year. Commemoration of the just do it campaign. And we lamented how Nike was going to lose money. Well, lo and behold is the other sneak accompanies that's been losing. Nikes made billions. Since having that commercial at commemorating Colin cabinet would it's just do it campaign. They've made billions. Nike's Chilin. So if you are the National Football League in your Jerry Jones, if you want a National Football League and you Mr. Bob McNair owner that Houston, Texas, who can't seem to win a damn game these days who sitting there talking about how we can't let the inmates run the prisons. If you're that guy. Oh, anybody that feels like him in Jerry Jones purportedly feel. What do you have to say today that Nike's making money because of Nikes making money, that means they have support and if Nike is making money and has the support who's to say that you would not have if you're Jerry Jones or your Bob McNair. But why let Tino and beyond in a state of Texas stand up. In the state of Texas stand up because you've got to owners in your state who was swearing up and down. That's supporting colored cabinet was bad for business. And if it was bad for business, how come Nikes not being affected? And if Nike has proven, it's good for business. Maybe it's good for your business. Maybe Jerry Jones. You might make more money supporting collared capital. Maybe Bob McNair, you might actually be relevant. Your team might actually be relevant if you supported Colin cabinet ever thought of that. See, we thought. That it was bad for business and then NFL owners revenue went up four point, nine percent last season and each owner cash. The check for two hundred and fifty five million dollars a piece. And now Nike is made billions off a Colin cabinet commemorating its thirtieth year anniversary of the just doing campaign. So guess what? It ain't bad for business. Now, what's your excuse. Now, what's your excuse. TD, Eric Ries re-signing transcends him being employed by the NFL. You don't want it also does. It also shows everybody in the NFL in on the same page when it comes to college capping, it also buffers Colin cabinets case because of Eric re can find a job particularly considering the plethora of safeties that actually exist in the NFL. And I'm not saying that they aren't some scrubs up in there. But the bottom line is there's more scrubs at the quarterback position than they are to save people's issues. So why wouldn't Colin cabinet job which buffers this argument about collusion being exercised that gets them and remember what collusion is all about. Ladies and gentlemen, it's very, very important. It doesn't have to be a Qadri of owners communicating with one another throughout the league. All it takes a couple of people. If colleague, cabinet, compute improve via emails, text messages, or whatever the case may be that there was actual communication about him amongst a couple of owners. That's all he needs to prove collusion. This is a big day. This is a huge day because the National Football League is in a world of trouble. Now, this is a step in the right direction, make no mistake about it. And I'm not talking about the league office when I'm talking about the National Football League. I'm talking about some owners getting exposed and not just because of their business acumen or lack thereof, or commitment to the bottom line and nothing else, which means they're probably a moral as opposed to moral or immoral. It might be flat out prejudice. And it might try and might. Be transitioning along state lines. It's not an accident to me. That the two most outspoken owners against Colin capital happened to both become a from the state of Texas. That's why I'm challenging the state of Texas stand up and make sure your voice is heard. And make sure that it's not Jerry Jones of Mr. McNair speaking for you and I'm not accusing anybody of being prejudiced. I'm talking optics. I'm talking about how something looks. We get to pay attention to that, particularly in this day and age. Then particularly with the metoo movement, which has nothing to do with Colin cabinet by the way and beyond. Have things look, evidently matters. It of how things look, evidently matter bin. How does all of this look right now? Colin cabinet is making money for Nike hockey, Cam make money for the national football. The who the hell said endorsing Colin cabinet supporting Colin Kaepernick is going to be bad for business. Where's the proof? Where's the proof. And if you don't have that proof and is just an assumption, why would you make that assumption. These are questions that are legitimate. These are questions that can't be escaped. I know we've got Mr. Morrow with the New York Giants who was on a wreck in the immediate aftermath of Colin cap and initial protests saying that he received an abundance of emails. Unlike he's ever see before where people were swearing not to support the New York Giants. If they would bring him on board, how feel now and where these people when it comes to Nike where these people when it comes to the National Football League. Are you sure it's kinda cap, Nick? Was it the rule changes that have softened the sleek like the swearing the DJ swear inches of the world and the Josh Norman of the world. And clay Matthews of the world have been complaining about who's to say it's not the in issues and effect that people aren't comfortable with these guys heads collide with turf, and then being woozy and discombobulated and disoriented and not knowing where they're coming to going, who's to say, it's not that. We got a lot of stuff to get into today. We really, really do. This is what this is. What talk radio is made for right here. What is the real reasons for the struggles of the National Football League? Cicada cabinet? Is it protests or has he been used. As cover to gloss over and disguise. The real issues contaminating the National Football League as we speak, is it about Colin capping? It wasn't ever about Colin Kaepernick. Was it about concussions. Rules changes and the NFL's apparent insatiable appetite. To protect themselves from lawsuits and beyond by softening the game to such a degree that you'd literally have defensive players past and present speaking about the NFL, comparing it to the potential of becoming flag football and talking about how the game is disrespectful to the players. That are promoting it and uplifting it by their mere presence in the National Football League in this day and age. Edit eight, say ESPN that is the number to call this editor seven to nine three, seven, seven, six subjects, not going anywhere. We're going to entertain this subject throughout this show today because we don't rougher stuff on the Stephen Smith show. Let me be very, very clear. I'm proud employees of the Walt Disney network and ESPN, but ain't nobody ever accused me of being Mickey Mouse and we ain't about start today. Once again, another call eighty eight. Say ESPN. It's edited seven to nine three, seven, seven, six. That's one of the things that we'll get into. Another thing we're gonna get into Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant spoke to media the other day, and I'm not sure we have that sound, but he spoke to the media yesterday. About, you know, essentially being disrespected. He was asked about being a defensive player of the year being recognized for being in the league defensive player in the league. Listen to what Kevin Durant had to say in response to all of that. Do we have that sound? You know. Go ahead and play that sound for me, please. Right now know they're not going to give me anything. Even if is on a fence. I have to be clear cut better than everybody for medium and get a look. So that is a man is pure hate for me obviously in no not appreciation, no appreciation for my real skill for the game, but I get it understand where we come in from understand what we have here in this building that scares everybody, you know, regular season awards. I mean, I'm never gonna look when it comes to especially plan here for the words. That was Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors. First of all, Kevin Durant, stop lying. Everybody's not against you. Some people auto. People have. You know, come to the conclusion, you know folks, hey, let me be very, very clear. I've said it before and I'll say again and out of respect to the wonderful in the lovely, magnificent MRs mama Durant. I do this woman. I'm not going to be respectful. That's one reason. The other reason is I happen to love Kevin Durant contrary to what y'all wanna take. I happen to love LeBron James. I happen to think that he's addicted to controlling narratives. And he's a bit too damn sensitive. But what he has met to the African American community, what he has meant to the sports community in the sports world. The role model that he is how he represents himself as family as loved ones. It's friends, etc. It's to be nothing, but admired I'm just talking basketball. When you consider the expectations that were placed on the showed us when you consider the expectations that will place on Kevin Durant shoulders, I can't say enough about who they are. And how phenomenal they have been. To the NBA to the basketball world. To to America as sports figures and specifically to the African American community remind in the world out there that for the most part, damn it. We know how to act. In a stigma that has been put out there by so many people, angry black folks don't know how to act and all of this other stuff kick rocks dammit. Most black folks do know how to act and we act ourselves to quarterly and we conduct ourselves like law-abiding, God, fearing lawful citizens. And role models like Kevin Durant and LeBron James remind the world that we do just that. I love them, brothers. I'll give a damn how they feel about me, don't know, don't care. I know how I feel about them, but we're just talking basketball and I have always lamented the fact that I thought it was the weakest move that I've ever seen by superstar. Kevin Durant leave Oklahoma City and go to a team that just lost to engage seven of the Western Conference finals. Three weeks later at a problem with that is the only problem I've ever had Kevin Durant. Other than when he accused me a line, of course. Kevin Durant is a phenomenal player second best in the world as far as I'm concerned, arguably number one. I think he'll go down as the greatest score arguably in the history of the game. And Kevin Durant has elevated his level of defensive play to the point where he warrants consideration for defensive player of the year. He's a rim protector. He blocked shots. He takes on tough defensive assignments. He runs from no one, and he's willing to defend against anybody. Kevin Durant, this phenomenal. He ain't average. He ain't good. He's not great. He's phenomenal. He's great at it. All of that. He's on that level. And that makes him absolutely right about what he's saying. Not about everybody because some of us like myself give him the credit are willing to give him the credit. He so richly deserves Kevin Durant is special and he's not just a special special athlete and basketball player. He's a special person and a special role model. The reason why I say he might be lying is to say that nobody says that about him. That's a damn lie. I reached millions every day and I'm saying Kevin Durant, something special, and it's an honor to cover him, and I will miss him when he is gone because he's that damn great mortar. Stephen, a Smith show on ESPN radio with guests and your phone calls coming up in a minute. Don't touch that down. If you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes Andy, six, they just didn't deliver the satisfaction. You expected jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette. 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I've been great man, blessed man families getting good with our families. Good kids getting big man. Can't complain. I got. You is great to see you, man. It's been a long, but listen years phila-. Let me just put this out on Front Street is one of my favorite people. I worked at Philadelphia Inquirer for seventeen years. This brother here was always so so good to me, man. I'm so thankful and great to see as part of the family buddy. I really. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Let's get right to it because I got now you now you used to get on me when I used to be in the clubhouse what you go? Philadelphia. Because you know, I'm a dollar Yankee fan. I used to Philadelphia. I used to Philadelphia. I used to say to Philadelphia and look, y'all talk about baseball in July June July. I wait till October because I'm a Yankee. We could afford to do that because we know what they're going to be there. Right. But I gotta admit to you. I'm pretty damn concerned about these Yankees because they got a one game playoff coming up Wednesday night against the Oakland a.'s, and I'm very concerned about it because I don't. Trust them, right. I don't trust them how you feel about the Yankees, considerate, Boston and Houston, and Cleveland on American League. I like their chances in a wildcard game. Really. I like the chances in a wildcard. Okay, Oakland at home. Okay. Because like you said, you'll Yankees. That's right. And when you're in Yankee Stadium, it's the mystique, even though it's the new Yonki stadium, the mystique is always there. So I think I like what they're what they're going to be going up against in the wildcard. Now, once you get out of the wild card, it's going to be a completely different story. I think they go against Boston. We've already seen what's happened during the season a few times. I don't think the pitching is going to be able to match up with what Boston has. I think the the Yankees get out of the car, but I don't think they make it out of the division series. Got one hundred, seven wins on the season. They've been absolutely phenomenal. We get all of that, but I gotta tell you something. I think the fact that they've been so phenomenal during regular sees Ryan puts them in a position where the pressure has mounted. We all know what they say about pressured breaks pipes. Okay. I'm. Listen, I'm going to Boston breath. I'd be a little bit nervous particularly considering the way Chris sale struggled last night with his velocity. You're not concerned about Boston, it'll well, like you said, it's pressure does break pipes, but it also makes diamonds if I am correct, sir. Yes, you're correct. I know why are you making your face like that? Trying to make that gives me like, you ain't got to be like, you gotta be like, go ahead, go here, but but but just like you said, I mean, it's going to be. It's all going to depend on how Chris sale is when he comes back and then also David price getting off the snide because I don't believe that David price has won a game in the postseason as yet great pitcher during the season, but has yet to be able to go out and kind of prove himself this post or in the postseason. I think he does. I think he breaks that breaks us not and gets off of that, and and he goes out there and I think he has some good showings out there in the in the postseason this year. We're talking to Ryan Howard right here with Steven a. on ESPN radio and ESPN news as I scoured the rest of the American League outside of the obvious dominance Boston during the regular season, I'm one of those guys. I've been fixated on Houston, Houston, it's quietly one hundred games shit while they want one hundred games this year. They're forty two games over five hundred. And once Todd would Oakland, they now got a four and a half game lead. We see what they've done and you know this well as well as anybody I don't give. I don't give a damn how prolific hitting is pitching. What wins championship reigns. So when you look at Houston, starting rotation, I gotta admit to you. I still give them the age mobile Boston over Cleveland over the Yankees over the aids. Your thoughts about that. I agree with you. One hundred percent. I agree with you on percent last time that Houston was defending champion and Boston's had a great season this year, but you can't write off the defending champions. These guys are, hey, you guys wanna focus on Boston. That's fine. That takes a lot of the heat. I think off of Houston because of what Boston has been able to accomplish this year and the season they've had, which allows them to be that team that's lying in the grass and just saying, okay, hey, we'll see what happens. But like you said, you gotta face Verlaine you gotta face coal. You gonna face kaikal Charlie Morton was unreal last year. So I mean, going up against Houston, their lineup, I would say their lineup goes toe to toe with with Boston's Dino Ryan. How would right here? It was even and ESPN radio, ESPN news. Let me transition to a couple of other individuals stories away from the t. Just a little bit degrom up the graph in the New York. Mets. Eight more schools innings last night. A one seventy ERA is the fifth lowest ERA system. Ow was lowered in nineteen sixty nine. I've watched this guy. Listen, he's the only reason I watched Mets. The Mets are completely irrelevant. You know this? Okay. And I'm from Queens, New York damage, and it's almost blasphemous that I gotta pass city field into the city with how pathetic the Mets have been, but I will tell you this right? That brother is special, still special despite how awful the team has been any issue with you at all. If I say it should be a no brainer that this man was National League Cy Young, not at all. Not at all. I mean the Graham has been, he's gone out every single time done what's asked of him, give his team an opportunity to go out there and win games. Shut the other team down. That's what he's supposed to do. That's what he's done. You can't help if you're lying, doesn't go out there and get on get runs for you. I've been on teams where we've had guys like that where they've gone up, they've thrown well for us. We just couldn't get runs across warm. So I know exactly what that's like. I mean for degrom you go, you pitch about off, do what you're supposed to do every night in night out. Your team can't get you runs. So I don't think he should be punished for that in in terms of the Cy Young with what he's been able to accomplish this entire season. You know, I'm going to switch to Bryce Harper tune because Bryce hop obviously is going to be a free agent and you know, last home game with the nationals. You know, he bloviating about how much he loves the nation's capital. First of all, nobody loves the nation capital in this day and age. So let's stop lying about that. I mean, we ain't complaining about president. We complaining about politicians complaining about traffic in DC, something. Nobody is just completely happy and DC. That's a lot having said all of that, I will say this Bryce Harper hasn't had the kind of year that I thought he would have once upon a time. We were talking about him in my trout. Now it's clearly just Mike trout. How much is Bryce hop worth? I'm not talking about dollars incentives to. I'm not asking me to go there, but in terms of his value as a free agent. Right. Now, how much do you revered this guy compared to what we all thought about them to three years ago. Okay. So. Having been able to have shared the field with Bryce Harper? Yes, I've seen the highs. I've seen the good Bryce Harper and I've seen the bad Bryce Harper off seeing the hustle. Bryce Harper of seeing the somewhat lazy at times Bryce Harper. Ooh. Okay. What we'll say this. I am a Bryce Harper fan and to me when Bryce Harper decides that he wants to play and goes out there and does his thing. I feel that he is a better player than my travel. What you heard me, what heard me better than might use route when Bryce Harper. That Bryce Harper wants because Mike trout has been so consistent year in and year out. And we've seen what what Mike trout is able to do. My child is is you might as well put them down every single year as a top two top three for the MVP vote. And because you know what you're gonna get out of my Trump Harper's at up and down seasons. I get it, but the year he also went and won the MVP if Harper's able to go out there and have that same consistency of what Mike trout does to me, I feel that Bryce could be he could offset Mike trout as the best player in baseball. You, you know something right now, I listen. I want you to know that I'm proud of you be, you know, I'm proud of you. Yeah, you might. Somebody might think you have to look just got the big. Better than Mike trout. Make no sense. Look like we're talking about a career three. Oh, seven hitter. We'll career to seventy eight hit a. We're talking about Bryce Harper bat and to forty four. This year might trout bat three eighteenth talking about a model of consistency who has who's effort has never been questioned to a guy that you said of just that no matter how much love them. There have been times when you call out his laziness, right? You're going to tell me that. Listen, I asked this question. A hundred sixty two games. I understand. But if I got a question whether or not God's gonna give it to me every night doesn't tech, disqualify him from the statement. You just may. It can. It can. But I mean again to me if Bryce was somebody who's going to go out there and he decides like you know what? I'm gonna go out here. One hundred sixty two games. Put it out here every single day, right? He's easily top. He's he's easily to me. I think he can be the top player. Okay. Let me ask you. Let me put the question to you this way. Okay. Talked him my truck if he wanted three hundred million dollars and he was on the free agent market. Yes, by all means well known. Actually I will give him more than that. Well, this is what I'm saying. Player number. So you'd give them more than three hundred million, which for Bryce hopper, would I do it for Bryce? Are what I do it for Bryce. Yes, I'm asking Ryan. How if I was in the front office? Yes, right now. Probably not. Thank you and I'll probably know. Thank you. Thank thank you. And that's my point that blasphemy coming out. I could you do that Ron Howard right here with Steven. I gotta get ready. I gotta get ready to get on of here. I'm going to definitely talk to you again just before the World Series begin, but for for now, I'll ask this question who you got meeting in the World Series from each man. I like I like the dodgers. I like the dodgers do I think I think we could have a rematch. I think it could be the dodgers in the the Astros again, I would love it. If dodges that he, I would love it if you know you see, that's what I told you. The Yankees Yankees aren't going to be like that on these calls, giving him as money. I mean, Aaron judge's, Dan bread, Sanchez back tourism, those boys there. Why can't the Yankees making? I mean to happen, they're not going to have the pitching. They're not going to be able to take them all the way to the World Series. I know last year they made it to the ill she has, which is kind of AOL. She s or bust or whatnot. You want to get at least two where you got the year before, but I don't think they're going to have the pitching in and just that much tougher this year with all the talent that's out there right now, it was supposed to be born. Boy, you're supposed to people you you because Barham attend purchase. Would you impertinent bus? The only love bringing me bad news about the Yankees, even talking to them. I Ryan, how would the I love you bro? Having to have your board, but manager right now, goodbye. Ryan. How would former league MVP in two thousand and six led the league and almost twice or three, Tom knows baseball does a damn good job. I mean he's gonna be a star. You could tell it ready as speaking of blasphemy that he's actually had to destiny getting sit up there and talk about Mike trout. Not being better than Bryce Harper. Oh my Lord. Oh, my Lord ended eight say ESPN inundates ever two nine, three, seven, seven, six mortar. Stephen, a Smith show without blessed for me in a minute. I just saved hundreds of dollars by switching to Geico. I'm as happy as a clam. Geico cannot guarantee. You will be as happy as a clam on vote. Like legal team cannot accurately verify claims even experience the complex human, emotional state, known as happiness as an invertebrate. 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Deshaun Watson Is Ready To Be Heard

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Deshaun Watson Is Ready To Be Heard

"Breaking News on Sportscenter the Texans Shawn Watson are finalizing a four year deal worth north of one hundred and seventy seven, million dollars. So Watson trails only quarterback Patrick Mahomes and his twelve year deal with chiefs as the largest in NFL history. When does Shawn? Watson takes the field tomorrow night to kick off the NFL season. It'll be as a college national champion, a two time pro bowler, and now the second highest paid player in the game. Rudolph Watson has remained quiet and reserved rarely sharing the frustration felt at times as a black quarterback in the NFL. Today. A different side of the Shawn. Watson courtesy of ESPN's Tim Cuban who sat down with Watson to learn how the Texans quarterback is finding his voice. I'm Pablo Tori. It's. September nine. This. IS ESPN daily. Tim. Queuing. Thank you for joining me man Hey Pablo. Good to be here. Thank you for having me. I want to start our conversation with a moment from your interview with the Shawn Watson for your latest ESPN cover story because you talked to him in July over zoom from your home in northern California where you are now and he was two thousand miles away in Houston and you ask them this very pointed question you asked what? Mean, challenges does a lack quarterback face when decided to speak up on social issues. How did this Shawn Watson answer that question? Pablo he answered it in two different ways and to very illustrative ways I would say. He started by saying I. Think you have to watch what you say sometimes. See I think I think you have to watch what you say sometimes. That was the the standard answer. And then he stopped he looked down is if almost to chastise himself, he slapped his hands on his knees and he said, honestly I'm GonNa take that back I felt like. I felt like. Whenever. Black. quarterback especially speaks up dowse world sometimes on their educated enough to know what's going on. So in reality they like, Hey, all. Black QUARTERBACK S. Shut up I know talking about. That switch that he made taking it from what the outside world would think of him to what he thinks of that I thought was was really indicative of this change that he's made personally in the last say six months. It was like he's still a work in progress. He's twenty four years old. He's a young man and he's still sort of has to remind himself that he's no longer straddling this corporate line that he's had to to straddle for three years as an NFL quarterback. Let's trace that trajectory then because in profiling Watson, you traveled to his hometown. Of GAINESVILLE. Georgia what did you learn about his thing? He started out in a public housing project pulled Harrison Square, and if you watch to Sean play, you'll see the wristbands that have eight, one, five on them, and that is as a Al-Majd to eight one, five Harrison Square where he started out with his mom and three siblings. Everyone says to Sean was was just this facilitator. He was everyone's and. He had this charisma about him where he would bring other people along just because he was confident in how good he was. He had been developing as a phenomenal athlete, not just a football player, but he was a great basketball player. and to Sean was just had this ability, he could do whatever he wanted even at that age. He would always pass the ball. He would always pick the kid at the end of line and bring him on his team. He just had that welcoming personality and he was not boastful he was quietly confident. And he became the star of Gainesville. Georgia winning a State Championship in football and taking his basketball team to the final four. From the outside, it appears that he had sort of a gilded life. We always start positive. We always you know anything any -versity of negative stuff that hit us. We always make sure that you know we learn from a real quick and then we turn to page and keep it pushing and keep moving forward. You've painted this relatively rosy picture of Shawn Watson childhood where he gets celebrated early for being this great athlete. But. Is there a moment where he realized how his race in particular could impact his life? He started in high school actually Pablo understanding that he couldn't speak to the media or school administrators or teachers, or or really people in the white world. The same way that he could speak to his friends and his family that he developed this different way of being socially acceptable and it Clemson it became more a part of him. He he got to the point where he didn't even have to think about. It he just when he got into a press conference, he spoke one way when he went out and got into the locker room with his friends, he spoke another way knowing that he couldn't. He would not be accepted or seen as this leader that a power five conference Clemson quarterback is supposed to be if he was essentially himself the way let's be honest. A white quarterback can be himself wherever he is. So this trickles down even to his wardrobe right this changes how he strategizes around what he can even wear. And more importantly perhaps the way people view what he wears, which is just remarkable to think that a college twenty year old is being judged when he goes to the White House. After they win the National Championship, you can see the pictures online he's wearing a very nice red tie and Blue Navy Blazer and a white shirt, and he was criticized because his pants were too tight a year later after he won the national championship when he was with the Texans as a rookie, he went back to the national championship game with Clemson and Alabama for the coin. Toss. He was out. It's at midfield. He was wearing a purple eight hundred and fifty dollar of Volun- SIAGA sweatshirt that he had borrowed from De'andre Hopkins because he had forgotten to pack his outfit and it was deemed not worthy of a leader people were looking at this sweatshirt and how could you wear that to this such an important game and to think of being that scrutinized with everything that you do from one thing it has to be tiresome. Secondly, it just has to be such a burden to be as you said, so aware of every little aspect of your life. So, when to Sean gets to the Texans he experiences to relatively public incidents involving race. What were they? The most obvious one came when he late in a game against the titans. They're down twenty, two, seventeen he ends up throwing the ball to Andrea Hopkins for a thirty, one yard gain should have thrown it to the end zone, but there was just nothing there watson with five seconds asked to throw it middle of the Field Hopkins, it's too late. Wow. Big Mistake by the Shawn Watson now the Texans and a superintendent of schools in Texas went on facebook and said this is why you can't ever trust a black quarterback in a pivotal moment of the game And Sean was asked about that. Superintendent. North ear saying can apply. And he he just kind of smiled gave that sort of Koi to sean look and said May. Be Him. I worry about me so I'm not worried about what he had to say. That's the whole thing in a nutshell is that he can't at the time, find it within himself in his position to say what everyone else was thinking, which was that this was. Unfair racist and borderline say. The other incident is even crazier in another way Tim because. It involves the owner of the team lots of tension at Texans, Campbell Friday stemmed from comments from the team's owner Bob McNair at NFL meetings last week during a discussion about player protests against police brutality and other injustices McNamara said the quote we can't have the inmates running the prison I actually was there in Houston reporting story, Unto Sean. When this came out ESPN's Don, Van Natta and seth. wicker Sham reported that in an owner's meeting that was in discussion about protests for the national anthem the kneeling that whole thing. that. Bob McNair said we can't have the inmates running the prison. This obviously became a huge topic in the Texans Locker Room however to Sean refused all comment about it actually interviewed him two days later in the precondition of the interview was that you can't ask him about that while so it was something that was that was very hurtful to the to the players in that locker room and I, asked Sean about that this time I said, would your reaction have been different if that happened right now and without question just immediately he just said, yes, that it definitely would be any express some regret that he was silent at that time. That's a crazy detail that a precondition was that he could not talk about the thing that he is so passionate about talking about now but that precondition seems like came from a sense and instinct of protecting. Shawn Watson. What was he afraid of? What did he need to be protected from at that point? Well, I think we only have to look at Colin Kaepernick for that answer he had to be protected from. Somebody would decide his punishment would be if he went over the the company Line, the Colin Kaepernick shadow has been such a factor in a lot of players willingness to speak up about social justice issues, their willingness to take on their own management of their teams in the League. I feel like there's there the capper nick example was used as sort of this sword to hold these guys, heads and yes to Shawn Watson is a better player than Colin. Kaepernick. was at the time that he was taken out of the League. But I don't think that anyone had real assurances that talent at that time was going to outweigh whatever public relations problem team thought it might get with a player speaking out. I mean that soared tim the threat of it the gravity of it it was palpable even as late as January of this year because Watson was featured on ESPN undefeated television special on the black quarterbacks specifically, and he said this from me personally anything on the air politics religion. I stay away and that's the safest way to go why because they're really. They can be a right and. A right and wrong or yes or no but Riyadh everyone is going to be how own opinions you're not really you're fighting about it as you can't really win. This is so clearly now a different answer than the one he gave you in your interview with him. Did he address specifically what the precipitating cause of that change was? I? Think it can be one name and it's George Floyd. I. Really think that that changed so many minds and it made so many people like to Shawn Watson in and out of sports not just sports say something needs to be done and if I feel repercussions for speaking out about this, it's on you and no longer on me. The business of that event really caused to Sean to say, okay, you know I been heading this way. I feel this way I'm going to say what I feel. Coming up how does Shawn Watson has reacted to this moment in history and the changes he's helped bring about at his Alma Mater. 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You know the parade went on it was just basically that guy never existed. and. They had a conversation to sean in Quincy did about what they had seen and how. That man knew that he was he knew what was in store for him when he when he made that decision that really struck them as as powerful and is something that kind of lingered in their mind this is before to Sean started speaking out but it was something that really stayed with him in that vision of that man kind of became a little bit of an inspiration as the events of the past six months start to unfold. Tension building tonight in Minneapolis after an unarmed black man died after being arrested and pinned to the ground bite officer, he can be heard on the video saying I can't breathe. That six month period. Touches off with the killing of George Floyd on May twenty fifth of the year in the immediate aftermath of Floyd's death. What does Shawn Watson Do? First off, he reached out to the family of George. Floyd knowing that there was going to be a march through the streets of Houston, which was George Floyd's hometown. And he marched with now. Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson was among those supporting the Floyd yesterday during the march he shared a photo of him saying prayers for the. Floyd. He stood side by side with George Floyd's family marching through the streets of Houston peacefully protesting. His presence meant a lot to that family but more than anything I. think it meant a lot to him to be able to not take the spotlight away but simply march with them, show his compassion, his support and sort of ease into this new role that he's willing to take on. He did it with purpose and he did it without question. He said that that was just something that he felt he had to do as a representative of his team and his city. So that happened relatively quietly as you alluded to. But soon, enough the volume on the Sean Watson's voice begins to increase what else did shawn do to demonstrate his desire for change. Public going back to his time at Clemson. He always had a hard time going into one particular building on campus. So he had some classes in the honors college. And on that college, the name John C. Calhoun is prominent in the Front John C. Calhoun who was the seventh vice president of the United States was not only pro slavery but he was someone who said slavery was actually good for black people. So he took pro slavery to another level and the Sean and De'andre Hopkins were teammates at Clinton, and also had this same same idea that they they felt like that name did not belong on this building and de'andre lent their name to a petition to take that name off that building. And again, we talk about breaking down barriers. Clemson is a place that Desha considers his second family. You know this this Gaden country Dabo Sweeney world that has been created there to Sean is a is a valued member of it and for him to turn and say, look you guys are doing this wrong. You need to address this for every day Shawn Watson. de'andre. Hopkins. Comes after us. I think took a lot of courage and a lot of You know it broke those barriers down and in the end that name came down. It is so crazy attempt to contemplate how long. Traditions like that have lasted how did he address the change that he directly influenced at? Clemson with you? He discussed it very matter of factly, and said, you know this was something that always made me feel uncomfortable I felt that it needed to come down. There's a statue on on campus of Thomas Green Clemson who is that the colleges obviously named after he was John C. Calhoun son-in-law and he was also a slave owner. He actually inherited Calhoun slaves and that statue was kind of this iconic thing on campus where before you take a test, you rub it for good luck and you get your picture taken with it after you know when you graduate. and to Sean very pointedly said I know for I never seen a Black football player to put you in front of it. I can speak on the other athletes but I'm not black. Football player at least my we never took a pitcher there. There was never a black football player Clemson got his picture taken next to that statue in his time there, and he's never known any you know before or after, and you know it makes you realize just how different people perceive things in the fact that to Sean had this in him, he always felt uncomfortable around those things he he's not just coming to these realizations. He's basically just coming to the point where he ceasing to suppress his voice. Now that's done. He is going to speak up for when he sees injustice and even when it hits close to home which definitely Clemson, qualifies. Ten the NFL. Season starts tomorrow and the two highest paid players to ever play the game Patrick Mahomes into Shawn. Watson facing off they're both black quarterbacks in a moment where races once again at the center of so many different conversations across the country. Does, the Shawn Watson look forward to wielding the power that the quarterback position in specific has in American culture. He does Pablo and and and I think he does because he has lived it internally he has always felt this pressure to be. Better and to be different and to put forth an image of himself that will be palatable to the general public and I think that there is in him this this desire to use that person that he is this dynamic energetic person for good. and. So I think that that Sean and Patrick Mahomes is good friend. They've talked about making a lasting difference in coming together to to address these social ills in a more comprehensive way. Again twenty, four years old. He doesn't have a master plan in front of him. He just knows that the response he's been getting from what he's been doing has been positive. So maybe that cloud of capper nick is slowly dissipating and these guys are feeling that they can use their power in their voice to effect change. Tim Q. and tracing this new trajectory of the Shawn Watson with us. A thank you, Pablo, appreciate it. Coming up. The latest plays college football coaches are looking for an edge might be putting everyone at a competitive disadvantage. You ever wonder just how far an extra mile really goes well, drive a Mercedes Benz van and find out start with a network of over two hundred and fifty authorized dealerships backed by salesforce ready to help you with everything from customization to service on vans like the Mercedes. 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Here's another story I'd like you to know. Oklahoma football coach Lincoln Riley is just thirty seven years old and he's rightfully hailed as a progressive thinker and innovative play call. But yesterday when asked about the number of active Kobe cases on his team Riley, lapsed into sounding like so many of the coaches that have come before. As far as Active cases I think we're. We're we're to the point now where we're playing games and and obviously an active case contact trace is is is GONNA have game. Repercussions and. So. You know dislike for we would with an injury are gonNA. You know we're just made the decision not broadcast I, don't know we'd be. The most transparent school in the country up until then but you don't WanNa give compete or your team a competitive disadvantage or not going to do that. This hierarchy of concerns with competitive disadvantage for above transparency has been standard operating procedure in football forever now and Riley is far from alone. In this ancient approach, the rhetoric has simply been retrofitted onto this pandemic as a staggering number of college coaches are often to no longer tell the truth about the virus case load inside their programs. Just last week ESPN's Paula Levine and March Schlabach reported that almost half of the sixty five schools in the power five conferences declined to share the number of positive tests in their program to date and that twenty one of those schools are in the three conferences that planned to play football as soon as this weekend, the SEC ACC and Oklahoma's big twelve. Now. Many of these schools site federal student privacy laws to justify their opacity and confidentiality is a valuable concert. But it's also valuable to know that legal experts told ESPN that because the requested numbers don't even identify specific students, those laws an those concerns don't actually apply here. The real concern instead seems to be sheer competitive advantage as Riley. Put it. And that's not just an advantage over. His opponents on the field shielding the public from the death of these numbers also offers an advantage over those critics and scientists who are logically concerned about the sooners competing during a global pandemic at all. In fact, it seems telling that the last two times Riley, offered transparency about his team's positive tests last month. The total number of active cases jumped from nine to seventeen Riley. Himself had just disclosed that he lost all but one person at a major position group on the field. and. So now, Lincoln Riley and dozens of other coaches like it. We'll be keeping the truth about Cova to themselves from Huron out hiding the highly contagious corona virus like some normal football injury as he said yesterday. and therein lies the entire problem. Because sometimes, the solutions of old don't actually solve the problems of right now. And sometimes having something to hide. Is the entire? Problem. In the first place. I'm Pablo Tori and this has been ESPN daily. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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1947: Mark Leibovich: "You can't fire" NFL owners

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

30:24 min | 2 years ago

1947: Mark Leibovich: "You can't fire" NFL owners

"Ladies and gentlemen, we invite you to meet the meet the Prentice depress. Welcome in nineteen forty seven. The meet the press podcast. My guest today is Mark Leibovich. He is the chief national correspondent for the New York Times magazine and the author of big game. The NFL dangerous times leverage is also veteran of DC politics in two thousand thirteen published. This town a book about the political culture of Washington DC. He thought studying the NFL would get them away from covering politics. But thanks to a certain president in a certain Oval Office that is proved to be untrue. Markley barich. Welcome in nineteen forty seven. Good to be here. Chuck. So let me let me ask it just not bluffed way. 'cause out be honest. Mrs Todd who has already read your book cover to cover says. Yes. This town for the NFL. Wow. She just she just took my soundbite. Now. It actually is. It wasn't my intent. But it turned into it is that what did you look look might sort of initial idea for this as I love football have always loved football. I figure I just need a little break from the swamp. Right. Just need. I mean. The two thousand sixteen campaign was sort of kicking up, and I just found it very dispiriting. And and it was wanted to focus on something else a little bit. I mean, you know, it wasn't a fulltime job. But it was a nice side project and one thing I realized immediately is this too is a swamp. I mean, not only takes Trump out of it. It is a club. There are insiders. They're the same sort of fish bowl of media. People owners money people hangers on players coaches league office people team office people. Same rivalries sounds like K street Mitch congress in some ways, it is right now we have the White House to white has jumped in. But. No. So I that was the initial it wasn't dispiriting. But like, wow, there's a lot of politics here. And then you literally had the president or candidate for president of the United States. Just discovering football is a great sort of wedge issue that he just he rode well before Colin Kaepernick and decided that this would be a winner for him in that continues through this mid-term, you know, it's interesting. Book on one hand you look at it and like the NFL dangerous times. But the whole reason why we write about the that the NFL is having books written about this way is because it is so dominant. It is arguably the single unifying cultural recreational activity, we have in this country. Is there anything that comes close, no note hats, and if you look at TV ratings, I mean, the top seventy or seventy six of the top hundred top rated TV shows in twenty seventeen we're all football games in the last year fell or college either NFL or college, correct? And the one word that I would quibble with in in the description, you just gave was unifying. I mean unifying would have been true ten maybe twenty it now is as polarized, and you know, it's largely because of Donald Trump and not entirely it is now as polarized a cultural institution as we have. I mean, you have traditionally the left has really sort of been suspicious of the NFL. It's been you know, over the top patriotism. Yeah. Militarism violence, and one of the things Trump has done is. He's turned a good portion of the right against football too. He has sort of said, okay. These have been this is now I mean, look there does not firing these these anthem protesters. This is now a a great example of how we've become soft. It's it's permissive liberalism. It's political correctness every time someone wants to sort of be themselves. Someone throws a penalty flag. So that became a template through a metaphor for his larger make-america-great-again K. Feels like the reason they NFL is such a target is that they just haven't evolved, and I say evolved in this respect, I don't want to get in. There's a lot of ways to describe it. But number one in the way, it's financially set up. Okay. Let's just start with that. The fact that it is it is such a throwback. The fact that players have no very little rights compared to every other team sport. You know, no guaranteed contract. All of it. It it just feels as if and they've been slow on the medical responses and slow just they've been slow slow slow slow on the politics low. Not understanding the moment that we live in. They just seem to be is it is it just ten year is pick your pick your metaphor head in the sand. What is it? Well, first of all it is it is a league that is conservative. It's run by especially owned by thirty two owners, and they hire a Commissioner and the commissioners paid very very well. But the Commissioner Roger Goodell I'm here for the good of the game. I'm just looking sheets lobbyists for the thirty two owners. Correct. Who's the rain association? He has literally has a call sheet on his desk in which he knows exactly which owner he wins. The last time you talked to the, you know, Martha Ford the matriarch goal movie. The owner of the Detroit Lions Terry the owner of the buffalo. All right if like two three four weeks passed but before the buffoon then. Last conversation. He'll get on the phone. Make sure he knows what they're worried about what they need. So in in some ways, it's very insular. These are extremely I mean, they don't these people don't have to face election. I mean, you cannot I mean there's there's line from jed York who's the CEO of the San Francisco more than two years ago after he fired his third Goten three seasons. He said, well, look, you can't fire the owner. This was in response to the owner. We joked about it as fad he and look he was widely mocked for saying that. But it was the one really undeniably true statement, he made an whole press conference. And it's true. I mean, you cannot dislodge Daniel Snyder if you had to run for reelection in the you know in Redskins nation, he would lose like overwhelmingly would lose. And so there's that there there is I mean Roger Goodell. This is the second biggest entertainment company in in the country. Arguably after maybe, you know, Disney AT and T FOX push, you know, few in there, and they can have any CEO or any choice of CEO's thing. Why they they took someone they know Roger Goodell someone that has really he grew up in the league working then twenty three years old or something like that. When he started, and yes, and he knows the league he knows that. He's no nothing else. He's no nothing else. And look, I I don't think I mean, there's not a lot of fortune five hundred companies that would hire him to be there, you I'm obsessed with getting to know Roger Goodell for for for a variety of reasons, none of which have to do with football because he's the son of of a former US Senator and that just any US center. The first US Senator to stand up to Richard Nixon. I Republican US Senator stand up to Richard Nixon on the Vietnam war. And when I watch Roger Goodell, and I think about this. And I and I know how old he was when that happened. It was thirteen fourteen fifteen so you're as son you're very aware of your father. You're very aware. It is so clear to me he took leadership lessons from his father and his applied it and how he runs the league and how he handles things, but I'm cure. If the lessons are to be to do exactly the opposite of what his father did what an is that the lesson? That is a great question. I mean, he is obsessed with his father the fact that I have publicly mean why I've never been able to get Roger Goodell to do an interview with me. I the NFL Commissioner will just will not come on. He's come a previous NFL Commissioner's have done meet the press. He's done it before Charles Goodell did meet the press. I bet he would've Abedi did. And I've just because I wanted to have this conversation with any other. Yeah. I, you know, it's funny. I asked him a lot about his political background because I spent a Fairmount. I wouldn't say a few interviews with him. He's never he's not a great. Let me let me tell you the way. He's not a great interview. No, it'd be fun to have. I guess is. It's a book interviews a better interview with him than anything to his father was a US Senator from New York for me was appointed after Saudi case. Okay. So he replaced Bobby Kennedy was a Republican governor Nelson Rockefeller named him. And he was the first Republican was on board. That's right. He ended up losing to built a Buckley's brother if I'm not mistaken. Right. But this is after he turned against the Vietnam war. Nixon and all the anyway career Curto Roger Goodell Braxton with his father go obsessed with his father, and he saw his father. He spotted did the right thing you Roger Goodell has lost his career and lost his career. But Roger Goodell keeps on his wall of his office a copy of the Vietnam disengagement, actor whatever that Bill was called that his father. I think co authored or co cosigned, and he so he's obsessed with doing the right thing during circumstance like that having said that he just has been wanting to get reelected. He wants to keep the thirty two happy. Perfect example. Okay. Perfect example last year, he got a fair amount of credit for not caving to Jerry Jones Daniel Snyder, Bob McNair through the more conservative owners in the league McNair owns Houston. Texans Snyder the Redskins Jerry Jones the Dallas Cowboys. They all wanted him to just sort of put the hammer down and say, everyone must stand for the national anthem. This is an important issue. It's causing a lot of problems for us. We just got to resolve this. He didn't do that. He thought it would create a backlash. She also thought it would be the wrong thing. I mean, Braga Dell is a sort of patrician Republican. He's part of a wing of the Republican party. That is shrinking if it even exists at all anymore. He is very much of that tradition. But he's alternately propeller Republican he's he's a Rockefeller Republican. But he's a very conservative guy in his own sort of Rockefeller Republican sorta way he didn't think that was the right thing to do. And he sort of road that out Trump after a few weeks kind of lost interest. Penn State his walkout thing in Indianapolis. And that ended in look the numbers were sort of back to where they were by the end of the year the great playoffs great Super Bowl. And you know, I it was and so people I know a lot of players I talked to then if most of the owners are a lot of the owners, I talked to said look Roger actually kind of held firm. He did the right thing. He's got a new five year contract. Maybe we're going to see a Roger Goodell that actually may be AXA Cording to principles more in line with his father at this point. Then I don't know what happened. But in may like some owners, not the whole ownership it like a few powerful owners. And Roger Goodell said, okay. By the way, if you wanna protect you gotta stay in the locker room, otherwise we punish you. And it was a bizarre. And that the league office new probably within about a second maybe four hours that was a dumb idea Ma many of the owners were taken completely back. It totally pissed off the players it. I mean, it was a bizarre thing. I mean, they had road the thing out. I mean, they knew Trump was going to pipe again. But look Trump Trump's attacks on the league does it's proven that has a shelf life people who love football want to go back to football. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people who are going, absolutely nuts. When like the Vikings beat the saints on the last game in the first round of the playoffs last year. Head like a few weeks earlier vowed to be done with football because there was some terrible referee's decision or players. Healing or or something? And so that's where people want to gravitate back in for some reason. He just in Iraq Odell has I don't know if Jerry Jones got to him. I don't know if Rupert Murdoch got to him as sort of a condition of you know, FOX giving billions of dollars to the league for Thursday night office. That come from it might I don't know. I mean, but people like a large organization like five they were terrified of losing the NFL, even they are the worst slate of games of the week. So I I it's he has proven again. And again that he has he just wants to survive. He's like a lot of politicians today in which you know, in this this town principle itself perpetuation, Colin Kaepernick big court ruling. He he's going to get to depose some owners get to depose Roger Goodell. How petrified and they going to be on this. They're pretty petrified. I mean, they thought I mean, everyone I talked to up until this decision came down this week thought that this thing was going to go away. I thought there was zero. I mean, that's sort of thought. I mean, I didn't. I mean, and I don't think they had like some smoking gun Email where Roger Goodell. Hey, by the way, Elway situation that wasn't helpful. Yeah. John Elway said something to the effect. Well, he could have been in the league. And that was very, you know, it was misleading because he was referring to you know, a situation where I guess if he had. Left the forty nine. He would've had to take a huge pay cut. So it's like saying, yeah. Like, you could be in the league if you wanted to make like, you know, nine if you wanted to ninety percent pay cut or something like that. Anyway, that sort of indicated that there was a league that was a legal problem for them. He kind of backtracked. But he didn't really so that, but I don't know if that actually was was involved in the decision, but what's interesting this. They will now have a lot of very bad. People are a lot of people who are not great under pressure on the stand who could say some really goofy things as NFL. I was just gonna say these NFL owners really seem so out of touch. Yes. I mean, we've heard we've seen that the leaked audio of players owners where they were trying and Bob McNair, just keeping. He's comes across like. Yeah. Some southern white guy from the fifties. I what else to describe it without making disparaging. Well, he he bumped narrow and I spent time with him. He is he is that. He is. Okay. There was one moment. I'm a throwback. He's a throwback. Well, he's yeah. He's eighty look. He's eighty one eighty two years old. It's like he's in. He's not how many owners are over the age of seventy. I would say more than half. Maybe maybe third. Okay. Be m- aroused. We're getting the US Senate a few years ago when like, you know, Orrin Hatch was middle age and letting seventy two year old man. But you have people like Tom Benson of the saints just passed away last year. I mean, he was in his nineties marked the Fords internet nineties, you have a lot of people a lot of the owners who can't really come out in public for a lotteries. And I mean, you know, like, very sad. I mean, Pat bowl and the owner of the Denver Broncos has Alzheimer's. I mean, so it, but it's, but in a lot of cases, you have someone like Mark Davis in in Oakland jimmer say Indianapolis, Mike Brown's insanity you pretty quirky characters. Right. And I, you know, I got Kim Belsen my colleague of the time. I got this tape of this meeting this private meeting love when get tape of a private meeting between owners and players last October during the anthem crisis. And somebody's owner. I mean, look Terry Gula of buffalo was calling for. He said, we need a Charlton Heston, we need, you know, an African American Charlton Heston to be our spokesperson the way the NRA had Charlton Heston to be their spokesman said well, first of all Charlton Heston been dead for ten years. Second of all way. What has? All the players the meeting. We're like, well, why why can't like we why does that spokesman have to be black? And it was and he said, well, no not being. And then there was another moment. Stephen Ross the owner of the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. Called he said, I think we need to have a March on Washington with players and owners. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. Mr race. Look like, I don't quite know. But Mr. us had a dream. It seems like the that as much as we talk about the anthem and the culture wars, and there's no doubt. I think Colin capitals lawsuit is going to make it more problematic. Doesn't matter whether he wins or loses because the depositions are going to be problematic. Yep. To are to me, the real the real black Mark on this league. The real demand on this league. And how they run themselves these days as as a as an employment ploy is an employment institution is they do not pay the players for the risk that the players are taking with their own health. We can at some point you're going to be able to handle the concussion issue. If you pay the players for the risk. Commensurate to the risk. Okay. We, you know, you pay people more money, if they're willing to climb a light pole, you pay people more money if they're willing to to be far they're up on the building. NFL players are risk are shortening their life. We now know this. And they know some will are saying, okay, I'm willing to shorten my life in exchange for x. The NFL. No, they're going to have to guarantee contracts. They will resist it at all costs. I mean, it'll be really interesting to the next collective bargaining negotiation. And to the players who have never been United on this. I think they're gonna I think this is Kurt flood territory. I think this is and I think they'll have on their side. I mean, listen compared to when the west CBS was was renegotiated, you know, it'd be ten years by the time is comes up. There's a lot more known scientifically people just players are a lot smarter at least they should be a lot smarter. And and you're right. And and also, I mean, they see what contracts. I mean what Garin every every year? I mean, there are guaranteed contracts and other sports that just kept getting flashed before them. And there are some NFL players that are getting guaranteed contracts. Now, this has become something that, you know, certain star players are asking for and our place. Get it exact linemen need to get it. I mean, you know to be a DOE fits the quarterbacks to safest guy in the field these days, right? I mean, I'm not saying quarterback. They all are putting. In their lives. It knows putting their physical to safer. It's a it's certainly the they are the fine China of the football field, and there are all kinds of rules to protect quarterbacks. But no, it'll be look, I look I would demand it if I were playing I mean, but at the same time football is a really tough sport to union their union, but to strike on because very short season, very short careers, and again, it's sort of the military structure. It's like, this is there's sort of a, you know, command control like ethic in football that that, you know, prevails in in many, many ways we're going to see a lot more people that look like Aaron judge looked like defensive ends decide to play baseball. I'm just convinced that and I I don't blame him Garin. Judge would be a hall of fame defensive end. Could he's going to make. It's a lot safer for him to play baseball her Gibson. Yeah. Bron james. What do you wouldn't you love to see LeBron James of Android tight, end or? Yeah. You know, it'd be great. And of course, you know, LeBron James one of the many star. You know, celebrities said that they'd never let their kids play football. A little lighter here on this book since it's a heavy book. It's a light book. Heavy heavy topic about our about a sport that I love, and I just don't want it and be fixed. There's goofy stuff when every page Tom Brady. Yeah. This is your your your hero your idol. And yet you've got to be serious newsman. Mark leibovich. How do you did the snarky Markevic come out? Now sort of saw a little bit of Brady's Cortez Radi. Oh a little bit. Maybe a little bit. Look Tom Brady. I I'm very. The when he'd greeted you at the door. You know, it's funny. I did not get this. But people who have been to his house, currently, there's a Big Ben of the Giselle likes people to change into them because she doesn't like like regular shoes. Treading through the house, by the way, feeder ugly, and disgusting and gross. She's right. I'm with her. Gimme I that's a great idea. And I have a collection of eggs shed. Do that. But they'd sponsor meet the could get all kinds of cross perfect. And then you'll be you know, it would be it wouldn't be too ugly. You know, it might be actually it's interesting. I was Tom. You'll be glad note Tom Brady watches. I don't know if it was meet the press. But there was some morning show. I was like doing some goofy talking head thing on. And I got an Email from him saying, hey, look on TV talking about the election today. Look good. And I felt I got all fan. Boy. I said, hey, I saw you on TV on Sunday, Tom. You look good too. Like, hey, he thought I looked good. But no, he. Yeah. He's a I spent a fair amount of time with him. I liked him a lot. I am unabashedly. You know, we're best friend. I don't know. But you think you say you, and I both have spent so much time around politicians, and I feel like I know the ones that I thought let me in a little bit. And I know the ones that haven't here. Here's the thing. Eighty let you in in so much as I think he could look he he knows I'm reporter. He knows that. This is not a normal transaction. And I knew that, you know, writing story about him. I'm writing a book about him. So, you know, obviously, you have to be aware of that. I got I mean, the owners are much more political. I mean, were they're much much more like politics savvy little savvier. I mean, Robert Kraft spent a fair amount of time with the owner the patriots. I don't think he likes me. Now. I don't think he liked the way he was portrayed. And there was a big. I guess Boston is such a great parochial sports. And like, you know, I think I'm gonna cover the sports page today with Dan Shaughnessy column. It's great. But Jonah pathetic. Pending you should you should read. It does me a big sell if you're listening. Thank you, Dan. Honestly, sean. But, but no, I mean, it is it is interesting because in some ways as a political reporter over the years have tried to much as I can living here and being among the, you know, the world that we live in try to stay somewhat as an outsider if you can if it's possible, and it was much easier than football because that's not my world. I'm not a sports writer, and I think that made it easier in many ways because people figured okay, they didn't really know me at all they figured all right. Well, he, you know, politics. He covers politics. They all wanted to talk politics with me because you do realize that people care about politics, even if they're not political like, Tom Brady's always saying, I'm political. But like so what what's eating Donald could do it. You know, you say, hey, what's what's Brock Obama like, and and there was this weird scene? A couple years ago when the patriots won the Super Bowl and went to the White House, not not the Trump won the Obama one. And there were people just milling around afterwards. There's like Bill bell check meeting like Elizabeth Warren for the first time in like Bernie Sanders, like hanging around like like was sort of like awkwardly looking at Malcolm Butler who had just like, you know, nowhere by a few weeks earlier one of the and it's just like, but they all kind of curious about each other. And there was sort of looking at each other like what is going on here? And of course, you all thinking the other was zoo animal. Yeah. Or just not knowing what to make of it. Now is this watching. I mean, it's just I love those events. You just see everyone because everyone's like a fan of each other. But they don't know what to make of each other weirdly geared. Yeah. So I'll never. Yep. Anyway, that's a whole other thing. You did a you didn't exit interview with Paul Ryan. And you've done these interviews with Tom Brady who gave you more. That's interesting. Wow. A let me put it to you this way. The people came up a lot more people can up to me afterwards and said my God what was Tom Brady. Like, so sorry, sorry understand the risks level. I mean, did you feel no Brady gave me more Brady game more because he he can be very expensive. I mean, what's interesting about a guy. Like Tom Brady is everyone sort of there's a lot of people who assume he's just an airhead people just assume he's just a pretty face. He's not terribly. He's he's one track mind. Well, he is one track mind, and what's interesting gearhead. I think though that if he put his mind, whatever, you put his mind to I would take it that he would be if he were a Cy if if he were a chemical engineer. That's all he would think about the rate. That's what he yes. He reminds me a little of a computer programmer longtime ago, it was like a tech reporter, and you'd see these I there's this great little seen in this this documentary on Tom called Tom versus time. It was like on Facebook Facebook, and it got to let goofy attention for. Goofy things ago. He says this about how he might feel under appreciated his son. Weird. But the most fascinating scenes, and I've seen him do this. He was watching film on the computer and his dad, and he was just looking at it. He said, you know, I literally hours could pass. And I and like I would not notice that any hours pass it could be two in the morning, and I could be doing this for eight hours, and like no time, I'm just obsessed with and then you say he won't be on the phone with his his offensive. Josh Cincinnati preseason game number three two thousand and seven look at that. Look how the tell of the defensive back on third, and it was like, whoa. He's looking for things. Just and and that was a computer program that was like that was a coder at four in the morning who has the entire game in his head that I could never see. But like there's just like there's a glazed unis in his eye. That was just an incredible thing to what I don't know if we realize how I think some of the smartest people in. The country our quarterbacks, I don't think people realize the visual, my guess is most quarterbacks have a photographic memory. It you know, what saying not just quarterbacks though. I mean, it's linebacker lineman. I mean the level of sophistication that most of these positions require especially through middle linebacker the quarterback of the. Yeah. I mean, I would I wouldn't last a second in there. I mean, I wouldn't let second with a computer in a computer light place. I mean, you do realize, and that's I mean of the sort of classes of people I met in doing this book owners, you know, league office people the players to me are the most fascinating. I get the sense that when you look at the major sports that actually the most intellectually challenging sport for the player, not just the physical challenge. But the, but you know, is football football. Absolutely anything else. Not only that. But like, you know, the the level the studying they have to do. I mean, you cannot relax. It's the everybody would assume all the baseball players of the smart ones, the MSA not. They're not. You have to have a a brain that is highly young shinning. There's no for football than any other. There's is not think that it's the one that actually put your brain at that put your brain the most vulnerable, the sport that needs your brain. Yes. That's I didn't even think of that. But it's true. Wow. Yeah. No, you do you need a pretty sharp mind to play football. And and yet now, you're right. And it destroys you. It's it's I feel the guilt these days when I watch it when I see a hit that you think oh my God. That's really going to impact is and at the same time. I just love the game so much. Yeah. This is the same. My daughter's will sometimes say to me dad, how can you do that? Like, I get this a little bit this slow my wife same thing, and it's the same. And and you know, I'm lucky I have daughters Beauge. So so he didn't wanna play doesn't wanna play. Okay. And his grandfather played in the AFL is that right? And he sees Buffalo Bills Richard ta no, no, no, no, no, no. This is my my my wife's side. So I can't claim it. I always wanted to claim John Danny the long standards. Davis reading also is named Benny Russell. And he was a star quarterback at the university of Louisville. He replaced a guy named Johnny unites broke all of Johnny United says records at the time. That's an effect. Lamar Jackson only last year broke a the last record that my late father in law still held at the you're rushing touchdowns in a season. Really? Of course. Lamar Jackson broke it in the six game of the year. But wow. Anyway, he was it was a backup at the Bill. So we've always any good athlete. And so my wife has always had this. It'd be football. She's like, well, if you want, you know, he doesn't want to. So it's okay. Went out there. He loves baseball. He loves watching football. But he doesn't he doesn't want the physical. But it would have been. We were glad we weren't. I don't you know, there's a lot of peer pressure not to put your son in football and special judgment. There's a lot of judgment about it. And I believe in it as a team Bill nothing made me a better manager, I hope and working with others than football. There's but there's got to be a way to do it safer. You would think I mean, there might not be. I mean, look, it's an it's a dangerous sport. And we'll be at any speed. And we're just learning more. You know, you can do I think, you know, say for helmets rules. I mean, there are things you can do around the Mark. But then just competent just make sure people know what it is. And then you compensate them accordingly. I I would hope I mean like these owners are not they're conservative, they're greedy. They're so wealthy. And look, I it's just not gonna I'm gonna leave it with us. The number one thing I hope that happens way for your book is that you you have shamed. The networks into stop showing owners the owner. But you hope I hate that. I hate him with you. It's so who grass? That's what bothers me. I so I went off on this. So Robert Kraft head of the bri-. We're wrapping up here. I'm getting all Bill Simmons like we're just gonna see the owners like, okay, we have to see like the billionaires highchairs you do it Yaman craft. What do you write the check with your right hand or left hand? Does this kalibbala? Like we have to like in the Roman in the color upper thumbs down from that plan actually comparing any owners to collect. It's just make that perfectly straight. And every anyway read the book, it's I think people like it. It's actually people people the early feedback spin great, and I need to like be excited because I am. Well, you should be congratulations. The next Sal paolantonio, Margaret, which is going to move from politics to sports like our buddy essay paolantonio, South County. I knew the hair already I need the hairpiece. Yeah. Okay. We will leave it there really going to get a piece, you know, whatever gets me on TV to like just on the sideline. Bob wanna fit in as long as you. Look like, Mark Davis hairdo. It's great. It's actually the first page on the photo insert. And we could talk all the living daylights outta me. The Mark Davis photos. All right. Thanks very much. John in nineteen forty seven. Meet the press podcast subscribe for free and apple podcasts. 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Bruce Gradkowski

Ross Tucker Football Podcast

38:36 min | 1 year ago

Bruce Gradkowski

"Ross Tucker podcast is but it's not just any Ross Tucker football podcast. It's a Finnish strong Friday presented by Cameo. What Cam you I'll get to that in a second? Prey evidently on Wednesday we had one listener say. Did I say monster Monday on Wednesday. I remember you said it but I don't know if you meant it in regards to that episode I mean I know you said it but it could have been referring to the Monday show. I'm not positive but I saw me at Ross Tucker N._F._l.. Bribes at R._T._F.. podcast same on instagram and facebook by the way and said that I said it was a monster Monday and they were really confused so my problem my bad. Although I guess I would say if I really did say monster Monday on Wednesday I would have thought I would have gotten more than just one tweet about it but I don't know I'm too lazy to go back and check the tape. It doesn't really matter we are here on a finished strong Friday. I should mention by the way I said presented by cameo not really we don't really have a presenting sponsor for this show right now so I just kind of make one up every every episode just for the heck of it and I am on Cameo. Now you familiar with Deborah now. Tell me more seabright now you just said that like they are a sponsor and like no tell me more that was that was fake when I'm really like we're not getting any money. They're not a sponsor like why. Why would you have that? No tell me more Ross voice now making fun of me. You got me curious. Maya ten is up. Oh you never heard of it. No I have not it's new. It's really sweet. Actually you can basically get video shouts from anybody. That's on there and actually right when I some doing more speaking engagements now and the guy that's helping me with the speaking engagements told me hey you should be on cameo so I said okay. What's that because I didn't know what it was either? It's really cool. I mean it's an APP where I literally just someone will say and I got an order. I order like within three hours of when I first signed up for it. So I set a price point and right. Now I said like a twenty five dollars just to play around with it and anybody that wants can get me to give a shout out of video shoutout for whatever purpose and then they show it to whomever whomever for whatever reason so it was one of our listeners from Australia his wife's getting married twice getting married his what that reminds me of the fancy feast his wife is having having a birthday and he said you know he wanted me to do a cameo for her so I can't remember her name or whatever and I just said Hey. It's Ross Tucker. Hope you guys are having a great time for your birthday a appreciate you putting up with whatever his name is. Joe Is Joe listens all the time hope. You have a blast which I was hanging out with you guys. It's like a thirty second video cam. He'll video shoutout. No doubt that you congratulate someone or wish him happy birthday or happy anniversary. Whatever whatever you the person wants it for and it's Kinda cool they pay? I guess he paid like Twenty Five Bucks and I dunno cameo. Take some money and I'd take I ended up getting twenty bucks out of it or whatever which not a lot of money but it's cool for him to get the video and it's fun for me to do it and so now you know what it is but you can like they have like legit like they have like famous. The people on there and you can get them to give a shout out. It's really cool. My Buddy threw a party for his wife recently and it was like Snoop Dogg and ice tea and people. I can't even imagine what their rate is or how much they cost but it's a very cool concept very cool concept you get it now. Got It. Yeah that is really cool. Yeah yet another I. We should try to get them as a sponsor but yet another business. It's like a lot of our sponsors where I sit here and I think why did I not come up with that. That's so simple like video shoutout service for people. Gosh people love that anyway. I'll just have to stick with go big recruiting and my front page story DOT COM BRI. It's a Friday. What do we want the big show no wrong thing again? Guess again Friday. What do we give out because we want them? Mike Single Terry. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. I want winners. I want people want to win. Well we want winners. We want people that want to spread the word via social media media. We want people that want to take advantage of our sponsors so boom Becky Thomas. WHO's a TUCK head? She's amazing. I love Becky by the way but she re tweeted. I solve she re tweeted the hazard ground podcast. We don't talk much about the hazard ground podcast or College Football Bros.. PODCAST as we probably should because I'm not actually on them but they are part of our network. 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I am going to be wearing marrying sacks tomorrow when I go to an amusement park can nobles up in like an hour fifteen minutes north of here so taking the girls up there to nobles which is fun kind of Keto Wissa Pennsylvania Leesburg Pennsylvania so you know what they have their Bri that I love what's that what's like your favorite carnival or like amusement park food. Can you think of one EP Cotton Candy. Wow really yeah like you would rather have came in a funnel cake. ooh Yeah that's I. I am not picky so mine is waffles and ice cream. WHO CAN I change my pick Yeta what yeah that so warm waffles with debt ice ice cream inbetween when we get there? That's the first thing I'll do and then we'll have the day we'll go around. All Day and girls go on the rides right for relief. I'll get another one. I will double down on the waffles in ice cream at <unk> nobles tomorrow so if you want to meet me when it opens and when we leave be at the waffle and ice cream stand because that's where all be baby anyway congrats to the winners excited about today's big show by the way I we've got former N._F._l.. quarterback Bruce Gronkowski. He's now teamed up with the guys over at pro football focus. He's in charge of their quarterback evaluations which I think is pretty cool since bruce played quarterback for so along. I just wanted to talk to him about that and about evaluating that position so that's why we have these big show shoe so I bring this guy on about once a year because number one I loved him as a player loved his style of play. He's an awesome guy. His restaurant in Toledo is phenomenal best food ever. If you're ever in that area you don't go there. You're just doing it wrong. He is of of course the Great Bruce Grad Caskey. Hello Bruce what's up. I'm out. I was GONNA say you're still trying to keep those free meals coming. That's why you have me on this show. I I enjoy it. I know next time on paying next time I'm paying I promise but take care of the big offense alignment so it's all good man. What did we have last time? It was like some type of fishing tackle tacos yeah. Oh my Gosh Gosh. I Love Fish Tacos like that because it tastes so good but you're also like you feel like you're getting you're getting your healthy on. You Know Oh exactly well. That's the best thing about it. You're like my trick yourself. You're right. I you know what I'm just seeing some fish tacos good for you but you don't forget all the like the the Coleslaw that's on it. That's May were like mayonnaise and the to pull away a only dressing on it so <hes> but it is man. That's one of my favorites so I had to take care of you though when you rent down so I'm glad I'm glad we could break bread together. It was awesome. It was awesome well. I wanted to bring young because I saw recently. You were part of the crew from P._F.. That wrote <hes> in fulfilling in for Peter King this summer for the the football morning in America. I didn't even know you were with P._F.. Pro Football Focus so once I saw that I wanted to reach out to you and get you on the show at some point. How what did <hes> tell me how it all went down -gratulations yeah? No thanks brother so you know it was a while back you know in March after the season when Sam McVey re stops me to interview me for this thing Q._B.. Job and I went out there. We hit it off. You know we know a lot of the same people we came from the kind of same coaching tree with the Gruden brothers and all that and <hes> hey great meetings with him well. <hes> you know long story short. He went a different direction hired. ZAC Robinson who I played within Cincy in Zach at the time was working for pro football focus <hes> overseeing all their quarterback rating <hes> and when I didn't get the GIG with with the rams you know because I love this media stuff Ross like you you know I love being a part of this. I do a lot on <hes> Siriusxm N._F._l.. Radio did some stuff for N._F._l.. Network is that last year C._B._S.. <HES> and but like with pro football focus I'm like man I have have all these resources in my fingertips. I can watch every every and any game. I want and really see any college player N._F._l.. Player <hes> so I looked into that into that and I hit it off with pro football focus okay and so so what's going to happen during the season as our oversee the quarterback grading <hes> because they have a ton of analysts all around the country and these guys <hes> we have a system of how to great players go. We're grading every play every player every game every snap I mean that's insane. Do the amount of information <hes> so. I'm going to be a part of that. I'm looking forward to because you you know how it is you missed the locker miss being a part of a team and working towards one goal and cause and I just felt that would pro football focus. You know Chris Collins Worth <hes> being you know his company. You know he's been in that locker room. He understands so it was just a really cool environment and and ah so I'm just happy to be a part of it and do some stuff with those guys so <hes>. What does that really mean overseeing the quarterback grading so you know every week <hes> everyone's you? You know there's there's certain guys focus on certain things throughout a game but everyone's go. There's a bunch of guys going through in initially grading each play and that's you know guys looking at the quarterback the receiver the offense a line wind deepak defense the primary coverage die all that and I will be the is that it comes to me last so Sunday night. I'll pray start getting a few of the Games around eight o'clock at night and then I have to to have all the great overseeing and done by Monday around noon so I have to get through about fourteen games in a manner that span and <hes> so it it's already graded you did and I'm just kind of matching up and watching the plays with the grade and making sure the quarterback grade is accurate. You know I might see something that you know I might look and say you know what can't pin that on the quarterback because you know I I've been in that kind of offense and that receiver went to deep or it could be the reverse that quarterback totally miss at throw and we didn't great him appropriately on that so <hes> that's kind of several be doing <hes> on a week to week basis that is awesome and I liked it. They have kind of a cross checker or oversight like that. I remember talking with Neil Hornsby man probably ten years ago after I retired and just talking with him about the concept and my concern was it's not always easy when you're watching other offensive linemen to know what what they're taught or what they were going to do on a certain play so let alone somebody that didn't play. I feel like that would be tough and I've talked with him about it and they've said you know we really we just grade guys on what they tried to do as opposed to trying to figure out what they were supposed to do and so I think that's probably fair because when it comes to mental errors errs on the offensive line. There's really not that many of them. I mean if you're making multiple mental Ariza game. You're really not playing anymore. I mean they're not gonNA. They're not gonNA stand for that. Although I do remember having a G._M.. Tell tell me that you know a guy that P._f.. Graded very very highly you know that he was good for a couple devastating mental errors game where he didn't even he didn't even know who he was supposed to block and a guy would come free free and whatever but obviously I can't know that and I would think maybe the only position maybe secondary but then other than that obviously quarterback is the one where it's more more than anything. It's the mental part of it. So do you grade them on. This guy made the wrong read or is it just when he actually makes the throw ball placement etcetera etcetera yeah not too much on if they made the wrong re because you know you can't say no their system now if I was absolutely sure and I've been in the system before I know the offense he's running you know or maybe it's a protection. Eh You know it's a five-man protection. It's an empty protection and I know that should be on the quarterback right there. That might be a different story but you know we're you know I'm taking into account <hes> their their accuracy. There throws throws you know I mean you can even look at how they're forcing it. In the coverage and man that is not a smart decision right there the situations in the game when it comes down to what kind of <hes> what kind of decisions they're making a key moments and things like that so <hes> you try to just great on on what they're doing on that play not too much. Did they ask you what their coaches town because even if you know Ross if you and I were with another team and we're scouring the player player because he's going to be a free agent this year not a lot of times you you exactly know <hes> he made the wrong read. You know whether it's an offense lineman or <hes> the quarterback <hes> but you're you're Kinda judge. I'm great. I'm on what would you think of his abilities and you know he's GonNa fit in with the new team. I think it's you know it's not super prepared but in a sense you're you're you're. I'm making the read off of our system. How are our system grades players and then I'm taking account what they execute on that specific play yeah and really it isn't any different than people evaluating college tape or N._F._l.? Tape for free agents. You don't even like season scouts or coaches there. They don't always know for sure what the guy's doing so. They're grading him based on what he does so even the the weakness risk or the part about P._F.. That people might say is flawed is that same flaw is inherent in any evaluation process where you're not actually the the guy that coaches that player on that team and even then I can go the other way bruce and I can tell stories about coaches that they thought they were being objective when they were doing the grading but I know for a fact guys that they liked more than others one guy plus and for the exact same thing he'd give another guy a minus for the exact same thing because it's a subjective deal right and that's and that's one of my like pet peeves to like when I and that's why I'm glad how does it they have you know one set of is <hes> looking over the final great because you want it to be accurate. You know Tom Brady. You know you know dirt's pass and we might thank you know what a smart decision. Tom Brady mate. You know not taking the sack right there and destroying their well then you might watch Blake Bortles make the same play and you just automatically assume Oh what an idiot Blake bortles dirty that man he's so dumb he just missed that girl well no like you have to grade it both fair and accurate you know if it was the same and playing the position you know I understand when a quarterback's trying not to take sack just trying to throw the ball away not necessarily. He dismissed that thrill but he's preserving the sack right there and he's being smart about it so whether it's Tom Brady Blake bortles or all the other quarterbacks in between you WANNA make sure it's accurate you know and of course there's you know there's reasons. Why drew brees Tom Brady those guys are always at the top of the list because how smart they play and how accurate they are but you also want to make sure <hes> you're not looking at the name on the back of the Jersey your your your grade on their performance and now and that's Kinda parent how Brady's getting up in age same with drew brees you know so you had it'll really give me a great feel how these games how these guys are playing on the week to week basis acis and that that's what I'm looking forward to yeah? That's awesome. What would you say are the biggest misconceptions of of P._F.? Now that you actually work for them <hes> <hes> you know like the thing that got me when I first started meet with Neil and the thing that I thought was like super cool is getting to know them is man. They're so knowledgeable. I mean some guys that haven't even played the game. You know what I'm talking to them. Like oh man that's yeah. Actually that's a really good point. You know and so I'm I'm having an opportunity to learn from them as well. You know like a lot of teams. They have how many like quality can control guys and things things like that that are breaking down film. I mean that that's pro football focus. They have a bunch of guys that just love the game of to be around the game on a study at when continue to learn and grow from it <hes> and that's what's cool to be a part of you know and that's what I felt being being there is they. You know what these guys whether you know they've played you know one snap in the N._F._l.. or no snaps in the N._F._l.. You know some Wilcox doing stuff for P._F.. And so I it's just cool to see everyone around but also I I guess my biggest take from it. So far has been wow these dues do study it inside and out and no ton about the game and it's like it's just very impressive. You know I it. It's just made me. We believe in their system that much more I love it one of the other questions I wanted to ask you bruce and probably the last question came in the news some point over the summer late June. I I saw where John Robinson. The general manager of the Tennessee Titans was talking about Marcus Mariota and he talked about how Mario to really has to learn to to live to play another down. You know not take shots and throw the ball away and I think about all these guys you know Lamar Jackson Cam Newton Lock R._G.. Three I mean we can go on and on Josh Allen in Buffalo. Hello I guess my question is. Let's say you did get hired as a quarterback coach for for one of these teams. Would you be telling guys you know like Wentz or whoever would you be saying look. You do what you do man you go out and make plays play the way you play or would you say man you really got to learn to live to play another down. As a guy that played ten plus years what would be your advice to these young quarterbacks. That are Kinda trying to navigate that hat yeah. You know it's tough to because I always had the mindset that if it was third and six I had to get it no matter if I die for risk my head my shorter Jon Gruden always you know would would instruct me me that you know you have to preserve your your your head and your rights to you have to protect yourself and that's one thing I learned you now looking back at my career. I wish I would have been a little bit smarter. You know when I had my opportunity opportunity with the raiders that was probably my best opportunity right in the middle of my career fourth fifth year in the League. I was starting to grass offenses and understand what was going on and just understand the N._F._l.. But I- sustained you know a few you injuries and you know and I I'm in that mindset where if I'm talking to Marcus Mariota or you know Carson Wentz look man you're more important to this team longevity wise so if it's thirty five and you're going to throw the go away to live another down do it man we need your more port of this team to be on the field sixteen games out of this year then the miss a few games because you take unnecessary hit now on the same side though to you don't want to take away there grit their determination of what has got them to this level and to this point in their careers of how well they can play so you never WanNa take that out of the player but you also have to coach him the best game trying to start them. Look man make make smart decisions but you're more important to our team the healthier you are <hes> day in and day out so just remember that if you take off in his third and five hell yeah go get that first down but I also don't want you to go you know shoulder <music> soldier with the Middle Linebacker and now you're going to be out three to four weeks and that might cost us a playoff game you know so I always try to struck the young quarterbacks that I want them to play aggressive whether it's throwing the football down the field but yet being being smart with it and the same thing to get outside the pocket making the right decisions on maybe throwing the way the ball away a little bit earlier if you're <hes> Deshaun Watson with the Texans and not taking that unnecessary hit on your legs or your body just throw the ball away and we'll live to play another down. You didn't have to take that unnecessary hit so I'd like my quarterbacks to stay healthy especially. If you're the franchise guy you're more important to the team when you show up week in and week out. Do you think that's something that they just kind of figure out over time. Yeah you know you know how it is made you get in the league and you're just trying to number one. Make a name for yourself number two a lot of US trying to make the team so you have to do whatever you can on each and every play each and every day so I think as you grow and learn and develop more knowledge is being in the N._F._l.. You learn those things the thing Marcus Mariota James Swinson appoint their career where they know it's make or break for them. I mean Tampa Bay and <hes> the Tennessee Titans. They have to take a hard look at this year and say are these is this are is this our future or these are franchise quarterback so if you're those guys clues you're playing your careers online so you have to play an essential with a sense of urgency but at the same time to you have to stay healthy for your team <hes> and I think just continue learn those things as you play more and I think St. Carson Wentz you know he's been through the wringer last couple of years <hes> fighting some some you know tough injuries and you know injuries will happen in the game but Carson has to sit back and think. How can I prevent that you know they're things that could be a little smarter play a little smarter that takes away some of these nasty hits but at the same time to I want you to play aggressive and take those chances down here with a football and use your athletic ability ability but be smart about it or here's what everybody needs to do? You got to follow Bruce on twitter at B.. Grad Caskey five awesome dude husband father eleven year N._F._l.. Vet He's got working for Feth now so it's a great time to be able to follow him and his information and he's got the most phenomenal restaurant in the history of Peiris Burg Ohio. It's called Social Gastro pub no. I'm not just doing this so I get free next time. I'm doing this because I already got free twice. I'm trying to pay you back. Check it out social aw gastro pub dot com great beer selection to by the way Bruce you the man always appreciate the time thanks Grad. Look forward to break bread with your gamma man and I'm looking forward Bruce to football season when can finally take all this knowledge in my big dome and go to bed online dot A._G.. On weekly basis using the Promo Code podcast one to get that glorious fifty percent welcome bonus. It's that easy bed online dot A._G.. And really if you saw the latest N._B._A.. News it's been crazy like the player movement in the N._B._A.. 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Futures and Click on use the Promo Code podcast one to get the fifty percent welcome bonus before before you change your bet from whatever team to the rockets or whatever you think I got a decent amount of news for Friday in mid-july which is pretty cool start with Melvin Gordon which his agent says he is knocking report reports the team until he gets a new contract or unless he's trade to a team that will give him the money that he's looking for so here's what I would say bri number one if you think about sort of Todd Gurley and his knee and what happened there right after the rams gave him that deal you think about Flavian Bell and you know the rather tepid market that he had this off season and even you think about the fact that Melvin Gordon had microfracture surgery back in two thousand sixteen missed four games last year. He is absolutely doing the right thing. He is going in the last year of his deal. It's his fifth year. I think he's made like ten million dollars. This'll be five million and he needs to try to get some more money now and the chargers really don't WanNa play this year without him. The chargers believed they have a chance to be a super bowl team and so- Melvin has leveraged now and and I think is rightfully going to use it now to try to get some new money and a new deal now because frankly really they shouldn't even be able to have the fifth year option year if it were up to me. Rookie contracts would be three years three because frankly there are guys that get fully guaranteed four-year deals that donor that don't deserve the money. You know there's Leonard Fournette. There's other rookies. They don't even deserve to have that fourth year guaranteed. Sometimes I even the third and then conversely there are guys that have earned more more and they've heard and the right to hit the market after their third year you know team could still franchise tag them but they should at least be at that point so I don't blame him flipside. If I'm the chargers I don't think I I don't think so oh. I'm not talking about both sides of my mouth. If I were Melvin Gordon's agents I would hold out if I were the chargers. I'd say I'm sorry Melvin. We're not doing anything you know until you come in and even if when we do here's the deal we're looking at and try to go from there so if both sides go to the Tucker School of thought because if you're the chargers after the microfracture and stuff you you still pay five million with GPS amount of money. You want to see him. Stay healthy and play well this year. You Have Austin eh color. I'm just not breaking the bank. I mean it. It has not proven to be a sound decision to. You pay a running back a lot of money. It just really hasn't so I'm not doing it. If I'm the chargers so if both sides listen and subscribe to the Ross Tucker Football podcast the both know that they're doing doing the right thing and it could be a while because they could both be firmly entrenched in their positions. The other big news isn't really a surprise Houston. Texans Not GonNa hire a AH general manager this year instead split the duties among four executives. This is just weird and this just shows you. They clearly really want to hire nick caserio whose contract I guess expires next February after the season and not to the Texans want and they're willing to wait for him but this is also. It's kind of ironic to me yeah. You have four guys running a franchise no G._M.. Now that there's a new owner it's kind of the inmates running the asylum. Which is the metaphor that Bob McNair used so they have a G._M.? We got five different people running around doing the different jobs. Isn't that interesting that the term that Bob McNair us. I think he said inmates running the prison which is not. I don't think what he meant. It's not really the expression it's in May turning the asylum talking about players at any rate. I don't think it's that big a deal. I don't think the G._M.. Role is that big a deal once the season starts anyway but it just goes you how much goes to show you how much power Bill Bill O'Brien actually has some rookie needs to get to the cardinals drafted Washington State Safety Jalen Thompson in the fifth round of the supplemental draft and Jaguar Sign West Virginia Wide Receiver Marcus Sims. All the raiders gave number twenty four overall pick running back. Josh Jacobs a fully guaranteed for your deal right in this goes back to my story for the athletic where yes N._F._l.. Players can get fully guaranteed contracts. People don't realize that they just have to be willing to negotiate it and make it an important term of the negotiation but now we got the first twenty four dude in the draft all get fully guaranteed for your deals literally nobody else in pro football gets four years fully guaranteed other than guys that have wait for it never actually played pro football or show that that they can play pro football kind of wild if you ask me but good for Josh basically played like very little college football and now he's getting that Marcus Sims and Jalen Thompson I would encourage you to listen to Tuesday's college draft podcast with Dane Burglar. He gave a great breakdown of both those guys especially Jalen Thompson so if you're a cardinal's fan or Jaguar's fan definitely hit up to college draft podcast from this week nights and other news include Bucks Cornerback Ryan Smith suspended for Games for P._D.. Use for N._F._l.. D. Tackle Albert hanes worth is in need of a kidney and the N._F._l.. Hiring to former players Nate Jones interior killings as officials the cornerback. Getting Four Games is always interesting to me because I just don't think of cornerbacks really when I think of P._D.. T._e._D. US you know like when you think P._D.. Usually thinking steroid that using bigger faster I usually thinking bigger people than a corner no word on what he tested positive for I don't I don't even think he's given even the supplement excuse yet but maybe very sad news about hanes worth. He's he's like on dialysis in a hospital. I had no idea suppose the a lot of people have called the number that was available cable and have volunteered. I don't know how that works. I guess you have to be like a match to be able to donate your kidney yeah. I think they have to do some compatibility tests. Yeah there's some type of compatibility tests so but there's a lot of people that said they would they would they were willing to do it so hopefully he finds a match. That's really special those people to do that and I do think it's cool that some former N._F._l.. Guys are GONNA become wraps. I think that's that's good because then hopefully those guys are good talkers and they can talk to players or even talk to the media and just make sure people understand just how hard that job is. It's really really hard. It's a really hard her job by the way speaking of you know what it's like as a player giving examples sending new newsletter email out yesterday so check your inbox from Ross at Ross Tucker Dot Com and if you're not signed up we'll send it back couch the people that didn't open at the first time on Monday. We know people get a lot of emails and people are going away on vacation and Blah Blah Blah so sign up before the resend goes out on Monday. It's really about N._F._l.. Fell players in the off season and taking the next step in life. Maybe like being officials in just something that I witnessed in terms of motivation. 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Hour 1: Eric Reid Problems

The Stephen A. Smith Show

37:53 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Eric Reid Problems

"The stephen a smith show podcast is brought to you by the new capital. One safercar earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other all the purchases. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the stephen smith show podcast stephen even hey what's up everybody. Welcome to the latest addition to stephen smith show coming at you as i love to do every week they always e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News two hundred and fifty plus. Let's markets across the united states of america. Check your a._m. F._m. listing nearest you plus e._s._p._n. Radio siriusxm channel eighty plus e._s._p._n. Radio simulcast over the live national television airwaves of e._s._p._n. News number to call up. It's always triple eight say e._s._p._n. That's innate seven to nine three seven seven six stephen a smith show obviously straight talk talk wireless one of the people that we communicate with supports the show time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless best phones best networks. Let's get right to it lots of stuff to get into a lot of n._f._l. Action to talk about tonight <hes> derek carr oakland raiders antonio brown. They'll set go up against <hes> kala murray and arizona cardinals. We're looking forward to that for some reason. Aaron rodgers playing a preseason game is actually news which is very very insulting the me one of the greatest quarterback i think the greatest talent at the quarterback position we i've ever seen is playing in a preseason game tonight a meaningless preseason game y'all wanna act like it's back page news. He's erin frigging. Raja's okay preseason game means nothing to me has nothing to prove his greatness has been validated authenticated throughout the years over the last two two years broken collarbone week three or four against minnesota and anthony ball he goes now for the rest of the season last year he gets engine game three into the season and still plays the rest of the season season and oh my god stop depresses because he was got off where he was absolutely awful right completed sixty three percent of his passes during twenty five touchdown just two interceptions in all sixteen eighteen games just two interceptions and we gotta stop the presses. We acted like this brother. The second coming in lamar jackson can't throw right now and that's not the disrespect lamar jackson the baltimore ravens because i think he's going to be really really good. We know that he's got those wheels on them in these special but he's gotta learn a tour to football based on what we saw in the playoff game against the los angeles chargers. I just for the first three quarters but just absolutely asinine me why this kind of stuff is news but that's neither here nor there later on in the show. I will tell you think that the los angeles lakers should favorites to win the n._b._a. Championship i will tell you i think the brooklyn nets should consider giving carmelo anthony and opportunity to be on their squad awed so that's some of the other things that we're going to talk about today but obviously i gotta get into a couple of things because i'm a bit agitated. I'll be the first one to admit this. I'm a bit agitated and stems from our conversation about this whole jay z. situation with the national football league collaborating with them to address social justice issues or what have you <hes> <hes> definitely being a part of their have. You know you know bay being an influencer somebody that's going to be in control of their halftime entertainment as well so obviously these kind of things that we're gonna talk about but the first order of business <hes> in a relatable item is to talk about dolphins owner. Stephen ross and dolphins sends receiver kenny stills finally meeting up with one another as you know <hes> stephen ross one for the miami dolphins scheduled to throw a fundraiser for the president donald donald trump kenny stills the wide receiver was opposed to that because he pointed out stephen ross is a work throughout the years with the rise foundation which promotes social associate justice and racial equality and sports and how he felt that was inconsistent with throwing a fundraiser for the president and he spoke out against his own in that regard basically with those words he did it without meeting with stephen rossi did it on twitter and finally the two met with one another and according according to kenny stills dave agree to disagree according to an article in pro football talk to men have met since last week's controversy fueled by the owner's decision decision host a six-figure fundraiser for the president stills told the palm beach post via e._s._p._n. Dot com did he and ross quote agree to disagree still say quote. There's not much to argue about. He has this feeling about it and he stands firm and that and i respect that but i disagree and i told him there's no hard feelings this no beef and let's win some games this year end. Quote daughter goes on read stills agreed to agree with coach brian flores who has lamented effect is still did meet with ross before publicly commenting on a perceived disconnect between creation by ross of the rise foundation quota definitely from a professional matted a right thing to do would have been to reach out to ross. I still said but through conversations that we have the history that we have it gets to a point where i'm just a person that is sharing the message letting other people know what's happening and what's happening. Is that the n._f._l. Owners who have openly supported president trump without backlash are beginning to experience some of it and n._f._l. Players are increasingly unwilling to stand silent. That's according to pro football. Talk good job on this story. Here's the deal. I don't disagree with kenny stills message. I do agree with coach live prior flora's who said you should talk to the owner i e his boss have have a conversation with him. Let him know where you stand as opposed to him finding out on twitter that one of his employees is calling him to the carpet for something and see this is where we get into dicey territory we get into dicey territory because when you talk about the national football league working in partnership in concert with jay z and roc nation you have some people i believe some people have gone too far. I really really have because when i see some of these comments by guys like eric reed who need who's famous for nearly you know. Don't get me wrong. He can play football safety for the carolina panthers but he spoke out against jay. Z says he's burying collins career. That's what he accused of doing. Now okay. It's going a little a bit too far colin kaepernick's lady who's known for speaking her mind and by the way i you know listen highly intelligent young ladies definitely entitled to her opinion and standing by her man the way that she does personally speaking. I think it's admirable. I've got nothing bad to say about her but i will tell you this. I just think that that people are looking at this picture. All wrong and i'm sick and tired of folks getting away with it to be quite honest with you. I'm really sick. Totta folks getting away with it and looking at this picture all wrong a guy like eric safety for the carolina panthers blast daisy for his new partnership with the n._f._l. Saying it looks like the rap mogul is selling out and helping berry colin catholics career really we mentioned a word sell out jay z and the same same sentence from the streets rapid bizarro mogul businessman. I'm i'm a business man not right a- justice ryder that's what he was when he worked at the new york daily news show on king who i got tremendous disrespect for he sat up there and said jay as a capitalist no arguments there he is he's right on point with that but it seems like people are lining up to go after jay z and i don't want to said i'm really at a loss for words about it first of all if you ever agreed think about some of the things that this too has said and done yes. He's taking a knee mukalla capital. Yes he's bringing attention to to racial inequality and injustices that have been exacted against the black community. I'm a black man. What what could i possibly say negative about that. Of course i appreciate where eric reid is coming from but it does get to a point where it's a bit excessive. The play coalition led by malcolm jenkins. You had a problem with thank. You felt. They co opted the movement. So what do you do you confront. Malcolm jenkins on the football field at lake financial field and philadelphia a game mm-hmm is about to be played hasn't started yet and you turn an n._f._l. Gain into something like that and then you wonder. I wonder why somebody like you or call. A cabinet would be frowned upon because you have patriots out there who pay to watch a football game eight that didn't come to the stadium and n._f._l. Stadium for that why is that relevant because agreed is on record saying they did not have a problem column. They did not have a problem with the national football league. That's what creates that that's what he went on twitter and said we didn't have a problem album until and i don't have the tweet in front of me but he was basically saying the n._f._l. Promoters systemic racism whatever listen here's the deal you didn't. I have a problem with the n._f._l. The n._f._l. Really didn't have a problem with you until they felt that their bottom line might be compromised colin kaepernick manila for weeks. Nobody said anything marshawn lynch admit it or never on several occasions. He didn't stand for the national anthem n._f._l. In say anything why because because of collective bargaining agreement unlike the n._b._a. and major league baseball which mandates you staff at the national anthem the n._f._l. Did a mandate it. They strongly encouraged it but it didn't mandate it it because it didn't mandate it. A player was free to exercise their right not to stand for the national anthem n._f._l. Anything it wasn't until it was brought to the attention of the masses and the president sat up there and said he fido's s._o._b.'s that all of a sudden. The issue took on a life of its own. That's the fact let's get to some of the facts while we're talking about this because it's time to people wake up and recognize what the hell's going on here. Eric reed black bolt. Don't you have a job in the national football league. I'm sorry did not see eric. Eric replaying for the carolina panthers last year is he not still collecting a check for the carolina panthers. Is he not still employed by the carolina. I think he is common. Capitec blackballed okay. I kind of believe that's happening as well but are we going to ignore where in castro cert- in miami walk contemplating being miami dolphin when the cuban populace there exceeds thirty percent are t-shirt a castro t-shirt in support of fidel castro and miami. Do we forget that the baltimore ravens were going to sign him but the girlfriend his lady no disrespect to her but she went on social media. Let me correct it was either her or him. I'm not sure i don't recall but they both of them. Were associated what comparing array lewis and own a steeper shoddy to the characters in django samuel jackson and the caprio samuel hello jackson <hes> pity me of a quota cow and leonardo di caprio being a slave owner. Do we forget that. Did we forget that he had an opportunity to land in denver with john elway but didn't want to accept the deal. Did we forget the fact that he had an opportunity to end up in seattle and pete carroll said what is your plan and he didn't have one. They didn't know what we're we're going to continue to nail and not they didn't know what kind of trouble you are going to be willing to 'cause. If football was going to be your priority leader not just named. Did you fourteen months seattle miami denver baltimore. All of them were going to bring colin kaepernick on all of them every one of them and evergreen still. Oh has a deal harry reid's plan in the n._f._l. And by the way it goes on twitter yesterday and said i'm going to stay in the n._f._l.'s. You know what while he's collecting a check from an n._f._l. T laser gentlemen when it comes to get in trouble and that's not these guys. The character is not to be impugned stephen. A smith is not on his radio. Show talking about the character of colin capital and eric read it is not to be impugned and i'm not talking about colin capital at all with the exception of pointing out. He did have four office coming his way as it pertains eric green. I got one problem with evergreen and one problem. Only it seems as if you don't do exactly what he wants you to do exactly the away. He thinks you should do it. You sell out you coopting and we're has that gotten us out history history. You know not to get too historical with y'all but i remember how the great malcolm welcome x. Who i revere and deify once called out dr king. I also recall them later. Lady is apologizing for that and they're being a meeting of the minds where people understanding there are roles roles that each individual has to play martin luther king play one row malcolm x. played another martin luther king. Give peace a chance malcolm x. Are i'm simplifying it. Obviously it was more complicated than that but you get the message last time i checked. We revere both who's to say that there's one way to get a cat. Here's the reality -ality when you look at a jay z. In partnership with the national football league what what was jay z. essentially saying keep on protesting. I have nothing against any kind of protest. What i'm saying is about. It's all about things things turn into actionable things at some point in time. Yes you protest but now what is it about. Where's that getting you. If you're calling cap apathetic the goal was to bring attention to addressing racial inequality and injustices in in our nation hasn't he achieved that. I'm talking about specifically what he said. His intent was to bring attention into it. There's a deal with the player's coalition for eighty nine million dollars to contribute to causes pertaining to african american and desolate communities within our nation. It doesn't stop there. There's a plethora of things that the n._f._l. Has been doing. I'm gonna talk about that a little bit later on in this show and jay z sell out really all the things that this man through his music music to his entrepreneurship the african americans he employees he not just cashes checks. He cuts them talk about from rags to riches where he's from to where he's asked what he is done what he has a pit amassed what what he has represented in our community. You call him a sell out just because he did a deal with the national football. Have you lost your damn. Minds really the n._f._l. Is in partnership with the national upside with jay z and roc nation the checked if the objective is to do things that make a difference in a positive way towards community munity. There is no question that the cachet that the n._f._l. Has been the number one sports brand in our nation. There is no question about the positive impact it can ultimately have if committed to doing the right things. J._c. wasn't talk in front of that microphone and those cameras by himself. Roger goodell was sitting right next to him on behalf of thirty two owners who by the way most of them might not give a damn about these issues but who are we to legislate people's minds and hearts at the end of the day if they're donating their resources to the right issues and the right causes is this. What the hell are you care. What does it matter. Do you really give a damn that i think i care what bob mcnair they are. A texas actually thinks or daniel snyder or somebody else if they're pointing their resources in a direction shen that ultimately benefits communities isn't that the bottom line who the hell told you anybody else that you get to legislate what's inside people's thoughts and oh by the way forgive me if obama bit pessimistic or skeptical about my ability ability to affect an eighty year old billionaire who happens to be white and a separate and apart from the a black plight as you can get as a white billionaire in his eighties or the seventies forgive me if i'm not optimistic about data but guess what there's a younger generation on a come up and if those resources appointed in the right direction connected with the right people whose hearts are in the right place and they're committed to doing good and that an essence has the power to influence the the younger generation on the come up white black hispanic in thin and otherwise what do i care and if that ultimately is what it's about. What is your problem with it. Are you going to tell me you're going to sit here with a straight face. After all the things that jay z has accomplished in his career after all the things that he has a has achieved and has gone after the issues that he's to his music and beyond all the things that he's addressed as it pertains to the black plight the minority already plight in this nation and to out this world. Are you going to tell me you legitimately associate the word sell out with him. How fair is that every read. How fair is that as a black man. I appreciate the fact that eric ries hearts in the right place i truly do. I appreciate the fact that colin cabinets hot may have been in a right place. I truly do but if i disagree with an approach or if i disagree with this one thing that you may do that doesn't mean i'm against you it means i respectfully disagree with that. I i disagree with eric reed going up and malcolm james face on lincoln financial field before game to address this issue. I disagree with that. He's role oh. You can't run malcolm jenkins at any other time. You're gonna jump in his face. Before national football league one o'clock gain gene on a sunday afternoon on the field and lincoln financial field in philadelphia to address this it a right. You think that your way is the only way it ain't right. You think everything about colin cabinet getting a job when colin kaepernick himself said it ain't about got me it's about us. I don't like the fact colin cabinet because without a job. I think he deserves look. You can't tell me that colin cabinet can be backup quarterback in the n._f._l. Right now but four teams wanted to bring him on board. He wanted the uniform. He wanted their money without wanting to give anything in return as to what they felt. They would need to make sure they're bottle on isn't compromised. Who do you know gets to take that position and get a job. In america white or black or hispanic or asian american or native american jud gentiles doesn't matter who gets to do that who gets to have their hand out for somebody else's money and before they even get get it say look kick rocks. I'm gonna do what the hell i wanna do. Suck it up and deal with it. Gimme your money who gets to do that. Who do that your answer to that question grow to help stop acting like you don't know it at eight say e._s._p._n. It's inundate eight seven to nine three seven seven six you listen to the stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News that was straight talk wireless everything for less only at walmart. We'll get to your calls and more than a minute before. John fox comes on with us to start our number. Two talks fell action by the way. Do you have frequent heartburn like the like the conway you have in every case. It pops up. You know what i mean. 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I can't believe it that gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Here comes one point seven percent decrease in overhead. Hello everybody no. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds hundreds of dollars on car insurance. We'll geigo you dope projected increase in organic q. Three revenue believe that geico co could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. You'll seem to the stephen. A smith show podcast by stephen smith show thirty two minutes past past our number. One stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance. Pick from a range of coverage options with the name your price tool the found price that works for you before i go on. Let me make sure that everybody understands. I was speaking about bob mcnair in general. I am fully aware that he passed away last december. Okay so my condolences again him and his family. We talked about that when it happened and i was on the radio show at that particular moment in time i was just speaking about the bobbing in general because of what his position was <hes> <unk> at that particular moment in time before he passed away but i'm fully aware that he passed away in december of two thousand eighteen so i just want to let anybody notice before i get to the calls. Let me read a couple of things too because this is all public knowledge any n._f._l. Obviously having to pay attention to some of these issues. Let's keep mine because remember colin kaepernick protested racial inequality racial injustices police brutality <hes> the incarcerated in some of the unfair sentences of that have been handed out to <hes> black americans and beyond <hes> the n._f._l. Obviously politically charged issues issues of race immigration gun control of things that they needed. They felt the need to address that was brought to the attention plays coalition and remember when they made a deal with the player's coalition the goal of making an impact on social true justice and racial inequality and racial equality at the federal state and local levels through advocacy awareness education and allocation of resources okay. I'm reading from the n._f._l. I mean this is public knowledge. This is public knowledge about n._f._l. Operations okay when you talk about the situation in regards to their partnership with the play his coalition okay play coalition coalition members have directly lobbied elected officials prosecutors district attorney's attorney generals and worked with established proven grassroots advocacy organizations to address the affirmation affirmation issues clubs have provided funding and grants to grassroots organizations and their markets with a proven track record the social justice space play his legends have provided funding to additional grassroots social justice organizations across the country far beyond club markets. Okay the let me give you some example november twenty eighteen voter rights in florida. The players coalition led by anquan boldin pushed for the restoration. I voters rights to convicted felons who completed all terms of their sentences including probation and restitution but excludes those who are convicted of murder or sex crimes the ballot measure passed on election day last november with more than sixty percent of the vote it restored the voting rights to one point four million floridians but additionally adele is thomas takeo spikes algae crump provided support voters in georgia and malcolm jenkins and chris long helped with voter transportation in philadelphia pennsylvania march two thousand nineteen education policy and state legislators in massachusetts new england patriots devin mccourty brother jason mccourty and doron harmon testified before joint committee of state senators and representatives in the massachusetts legislature in support of the education promise act seeking to bill oh by senator sonia chang-diaz reps aaron vega and mary keefe addressing funding disparities in the states school funding formula woah april twentieth nineteen mandatory minimum sentencing reform in philadelphia malcolm jenkins and former pittsburgh steelers will allen partner partner with the advocacy advocacy group families against mandatory minimums to spring garden area philadelphia school zone and discussed the impact of drug free school zones on on urban communities with heavy minority populations from one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand and two families against mandatory minimums found that eighty four percent of drug possession offenders in pennsylvania school zones were residents of color in the two eighty percent of school zone. Drug offenders are people of color and new jersey. It's that ninety. Six percent both both jenkins and allen expressed concern opposition to the mandatory two year prison sentence added two sentences a judge prentiss for the charge of drug possession in a school zone. The pennsylvania lawmakers lawmakers in attendance were representative. Jason dawkins senator anthony williams representative joanna mcclinton and senator sheriff straight twenty nineteen an august. That's this month prison overcrowding in alabama takeo spikes in the dallas. Thomas authored an op dead in the montgomery advertiser. The state's largest daily newspaper paper calling on alabama governor kay ivey to call a special session of the alabama state legislature to address prison overcrowding additionally the n._f._l. L. support federal criminal justice reform in december of two thousand eighteen. The first step act signed into law by president trump gives federal judges more leeway. Hey when sentencing some drug offenders and boost prisoner rehabilitation efforts it also reduces life sentences for drug offenders with three convictions or three strikes to twenty five. Ah years allows about twenty six hundred federal prisoners sentenced for crack cocaine offenses before august two thousand ten the opportunity to petition for reduced penalty it also incentivizes prisoners participate in programs designed to reduce the risk of recidivism with the crowd being an earlier with the reward rather being an earlier released either home mm confinement or a halfway house to complete their sentences if you recall van jones of c. n. N. who obviously is no trump supporter absolutely positively applauded president on that particular issue. My question is simple is to part number one. If you call and capita eddie or ed reed eric reed. I'm sorry isn't those kind of things you were talking about addressing and number two number two having said that all of that is there any other league doing all of this you see. I don't know the answer to that question the second question i'll let the n._b._a. M._l._b. and others speak for themselves on that or if there's anything that they wanna enlighten me light me about in terms of what they're doing. I'll be happy to get it and read read it on. The air is went to the n._f._l. Website for this one. What i am saying to you is that they are plethora of things going on. Then then are directly addressing the concerns coller capital and eric reed purportedly half. It's not like nothing's being done. It's not like it hasn't gotten any attention. It's not like it doesn't continue to need attention but the point is if you're jay z you could potentially take this to another level title. Why do we have not earned the right for us to actually see what he does and new producer. Could you please put that quote up. That evergreen agree just sent out twenty minutes ago because he's talking about jay z again talking about him again safety for the carolina panthers employed in the n._f._l. Talking about the n._f._l. At every turn quote this is evergreen twenty minutes ago. Jay z. doesn't need the n._f._l.'s help to address social social injustices. It was a money move for him and his music business the n._f._l. Gets to hide behind his black face to try to cover up. Nope blackballing colin abba question particularly for the black community out. Dan jay z. deserved the jay z. Deserve that you. You haven't seen what he's done yet. You have no idea what he's going to do. Does jay z. Really need the money at the n._f._l. I mean can we be real here for second monte grab. He's not you eric read. Jay z is worth close to a billion dollars. You act like he's you. He's jay z. A money grab. I have no problem with shaun king statement about him being a capitalist because obviously businesses apart of everything he does but it's not everything the way agreed stated it. Is everything jay z money grab. He deserved that see. This is why i have a problem with agreed. You have to do things exactly the way he thinks otherwise your fellow and for you you know black folks out there. Let me tell you something. The one of the most heinous things you can call a black person if you are black is to call them. Sell out is one of the most heinous things you can do eric. We just flippantly throws that out. There like it's no big deal jay z and sell out. That's what he's saying. Put that back up again new. No i read it again. Jay z. doesn't need the n._f._l.'s help to address social injustices so says eric reed. It was a money move for him and his music business the n._f._l. Gets high behind his black knight his face his black. Let's face to try to cover up. Blackballing collar era agreed. Do you need the n._f._l. Football field to take a knee. Do you need to play in the n._f._l. In order for your message to be hurt but it ain't stopping you from taking the knee in stopping you from playing in the n._f._l. So you get to do what you wanna do while getting paid to do it because correct me if i'm wrong anybody. I don't think eric reid is playing for free in the national football bullying. I think he's getting paid to do that but you want to count other dues money and how do you realize influence. I don't see how y'all doc in support that we haven't even seen what jay z has done yet is wrong. Screw screw unfortunately on yet the latest occasion we've also seen it's eric reed. Damn there physically attack. Malcolm jenkins verbally assaulting jay z. done it. It hasn't even seen what he's done. You wow wow guess what you're in the middle title of stephen a smith show podcast from the biggest concert games the hottest theaters and show did a shows and more vivid seats has it all download download the app and joined the vivid seats rewards loyalty program fifty two minutes past one back in astonishment show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News at the top of the hour. We'll have john fox n._f._l. Analyst the s._p._n. On discussing tonight's game it's gonna take place colin murray going up against john gruden's oakland raiders <hes> we're going to see a aaron rodgers this preseason as well talk about some of those things and obviously i'll get to the calls as well. My last point about evergreen is simply this. You know what you can disagree greet with the deal. You could disagree with jay z. The disagreement is not what i have an issue with the disrespect and basically calling him a sell out what i disagree disagree with and i would like to add you believe jay z. Did a money deal. He's getting paid the n._f._l. How you gonna say something when you get paid by the n._f._l. Every does play in the n._f._l. He is in n._f._l. Play how how you going to excoriate and vilify a man for taking a check from the same entity you're taking the check from you can say that he doesn't need it but it doesn't negate the fact that you're getting paid by the n._f._l. To just thought our number two of next year steven is radio e._s._p._n. News.

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MGA KALULUWANG LIGAW COMPILATIONS PART 3 | TAGALOG HORROR TRUE STORIES

Stories Philippines Podcast

44:28 min | 3 weeks ago

MGA KALULUWANG LIGAW COMPILATIONS PART 3 | TAGALOG HORROR TRUE STORIES

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Compliance?

Outside the Lines

22:27 min | 1 year ago

Compliance?

"You're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash outside. This is outside. The Lines Ryan Smith here. What makes Baker Mayfield tick joins us with that story but our big story is another one from the N._F._l.? Have the Houston Texans run afoul of the Rooney rule and their search for a G._M.. Here we are fifty days from kicking off the regular season with fourteenth today beginning the steady stream of squads reporting to training camp but only one team in the League is without a general manager the Houston Texans after firing Brian Gain in June. Now you can argue the team has made some internal bungling as of late perhaps evidenced by not getting a long term deal done with defensive engine Avian Clowney and perhaps incurring a grievance for their linebacker franchise tag designation presumably to save money but now they are facing questions about their search process for the G._M.. Job The team interviewed two African the American candidates for the position Ray farmer and Martin Mayhew then tried to hire Patriots Director of player Personnel Nick Caserio but were blocked by New England who later filed a grievance for tampering against the Texans over the situation well. Did they ever intend to hire one of those men of color and do their actions violate the N._F._l.'s Rooney rule so let's talk about this with Fritz Pollard alliances new executive director Rod Graves congratulations on the new title the New Job Rod. Let me ask you what specifically concerns earns you about the way the Texans high handled their G._M.. Search in terms of respecting the Rooney Rule Orion let me first point out that Houston is in compliance with the Rooney rule they did in fact interview a couple of outstanding minority candidates and with that they are in compliance our concern as the same concern we would have with any club is that they're checking the box with no real intention of hiring one of those minority candidates that in our opinion circumvents the spirit of the rule and that's the biggest concern that we have but let me point out that Houston's track record under the McNair family has really I've been respectable. They have a long-term longtime G._M.. In Brit Smith who served that organization I thought extraordinarily well for twelve years and they've got female representatives at the highest level food chain but what we've noticed is that there are no individuals of color at those high level positions and we hope that they will readopt the strategy that they want to add onto Bob McNair. It's a story that's been coming up in the news surrounding the Texans recently so just fans who are looking at this and wondering how it all works. How do you judge if you're looking at this as the head of the Fritz Pollard Alliance? How do you judge whether or not farmer and make you were given that kind of consider that kind of consideration that you require well? I think I in talking with individuals that were interview both of those guys Oh veteran N._F._l.. Executives and they certainly know whether or not the interviews where a show show or whether there was any real intention. Both men indicated that their interviews were well thought out <hes> they covered a lot of content. They were given a chance to talk about their philosophies. News and and what they would bring to the club and in speaking with them I came away satisfied that the approach of <hes> the interview itself with each candidate was certainly worth <hes> the time of those men and was in essence a thorough interview process okay and by the way we reached out the Texans for a statement they won't be giving us one at this time you mentioned the seriousness. Seriousness aspect the idea of four show versus not where is the line as you see it. When you have a situation like this in terms of whether you are satisfying those requirements or not where is that line where it's for show versus <music> serious well I think first of all this has to be a sincerity by ownership and other key decision makers within a organization to make diversity of priority and we we believe that diversity should be at the top of the business plan of every N._F._l.? Franchise ultimately it's our goal to see it in all of sports but I you know when you have of individuals who are qualified and we believe that with those individuals if they are in a position where you given a fair chance of fair opportunity <hes> to interview and to advance. I think that that leads to positive results for the game so then. What do you do to make sure that happens with an organization like the Texans well? We need to keep harping at it. We need to in impress upon the owners that diversity is good business that it's good for our fans. It's good for our players. It's good for our stakeholders and all we can do is continue to work with on his ship to impress upon them the the nature of that but ultimately we believe diversity is good for the game all right Rod Graves. Thank you very much appreciate it. We'll keep an eye on this situation. Thank you for joining us. Thank you well if you believe the pundits Baker Mayfield is expected to lead the Browns to a division title but how does he feel about the words franchise quarterback. We'll see next when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com. Tom Post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try for free at indeed dot com slash outside. That's that's indeed dot com slash outside terms conditions and quality standards apply. Here's more stuff that matters Ohio state is reviewing donations received in two thousand seven from Financier Jeffrey Epstein and affiliated foundation five a million dollars were donated to support the Woody Hayes Athletic Center and the Les Wexner Football Complex in a statement the university called the convicted sex offenders connection to the gifts concerning Epstein was indicted last week on charges of sexually exploiting and abusing dozens of underage girls between two thousand two and two thousand five today's b-block Baker Mayfield expectations are high in Cleveland and Baker. Mayfield is one of the reasons why Baker Baker Mayfield's play as answered most of the questions. He's faced over the years talent check. The two thousand thirteen walk on Texas Tech became the first true freshman quarterback without a scholarship to start a season opener at A. B. C. School Swagger. Swagger check skills and big playability check and check after transferring to Oklahoma and starting from two thousand fifteen to two thousand seventeen may feel one hundred nineteen touchdown passes forty-three of which came in two thousand seventeen for he walked away with college. Football's highest honors Heisman trophy winner is Baker Mayfield of the University of Oklahoma yet that season had its share of controversy as behavior kept him in the headlines February twenty fifth two thousand Seventeen Baker Mayfield in trouble with the law may be was arrested for public intoxication disorderly conduct and fleeing charges September nine two thousand thousand seventeen after a thirty one to sixteen week to road victory over Ohio state his three second half touchdowns more at the talk. This was two months later November eighteenth after getting snubbed. I'm for pregame handshake. He led Kansas know how he truly felt about it. Behavior like this lead to one big question right there n._F._l.. Gyms are GonNa see that could he be the face of a franchise or would he become another cautionary tale. The divide on Mayfield continued for months leading in the draft. I would take him. I in issues draft Baker Mayfield at the bad yes one team at the top of the draft seem to think he could be the one Baker Mayfield Square in the conversation to become the number one overall pick. Could this guy be the savior for team that had gone eighty eight and two hundred sixteen since the turn into the N._F._l.. Of Nineteen Ninety nine fourteen that had twenty eight starting quarterbacks and at twenty nine at season can start two thousand eighteen N._F._l.. Draft the Cleveland browns select Baker Mayfield under then coach Hue Jackson Mayfield Rookie campaign began on the bench as you watch tyrod Taylor lead the Browns to an old one in one record then when an injury knocked Taylor out of a week three game versus the jets it was Mayfield. Turn a chance say what Baker Mayfield down fourteen nothing who the proven collegiate winner lead a team that had not won since week sixteen of two thousand sixteen and yes choice led the browns to twenty one seventeen win their first victory three to six hundred thirty five days with Mayfield under center the browns ended the season seven eight one three more wins from their last three seasons combined still there was some controversy with Mayfield's actions after the browns Relieve Jackson of his head coaching duties in week eight the former Browns Headman during the Bengals coaching staff and found himself on the receiving end of a Mayfield staredown following a week twelve matchup nevertheless after a few big name off season Pickups Mayfield has people belief in the browns. The browns are the hunted they are not the hunters anymore. People expect them to be good with eleven wins dogpound think about the last time you heard that about Cleveland when Meena Times Times recently sat down with Baker Mayfield you gotta check out our excellent piece on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com right now. It's also the cover story on the upcoming issue of E._S._p._N.. The magazine and we are pleased to have with us right now so meena I found it interesting you talk to him in the article all about being a franchise quarterback. What does he think of that term well? He rejects the traditional connotations. Even though it's long been felt like everybody wants to be a franchise quarterback right. It's the steady reliable guy you build around but I think. In Mayfield's is the way he expressed it. He sees it as maybe not being yourself having to hide how you feel about things not speaking out because the way he talks is not like really any other quarterback in the league and I think it's what makes makes him so unusual at this moment so you talk about the way he talks but you also talked to members of his family. Tell us what he was like as a kid and and how that compares to how he is now. I was really surprised when his mom I'm Gina described him to me as a rule follower and then she left she knew his yeah right. It's obviously ironic seed said this didn't make the peace that he was the kid in class kept everyone in line and made sure everybody followed the rules which is hilarious right knowing who he is now. He told me that he was shy. Growing up he hated public speaking obviously none of that squares with the Baker Mayfield we know today but he also said that he sort of found his voice and became more of an extrovert introvert when you went through that college recruiting process because we all remember he was not heavily recruited. He felt like he was kind of unfairly treated only got four offers from S._P._F.. Scholarship offers from F._B._i.. Schools and I think that's when when he became the quarterback he is now. You know you mentioned that idea of keeping everybody line as a kid but I think about what a quarterback needs to do on a great great quarterback needs to do in a great team. They need to do things that are similar to that. What do you know what did you learn about Baker Mayfield and his personality the knowledge that we don't often see on camera that sort of might show people his greatness but may come as a surprise well? I was surprised Ryan to hear that coming into the season you remember we showed the video. He was not the starter even they. They said the Browns said before he was drafted. tyrod Taylor is going to be a starter you know if we draft someone they're not going to start and he was pretty quiet about it and he told me he felt like he couldn't really be himself at first like he felt like you know. Rookies are told be deferent. Keep your down and he did all that but he also felt like he was suppressing personality. Then the jets games happens he becomes the starter. There's massive term loan the browns but he really sort of becomes the face of the team and you saw him exposing more of his personality and yeah I think acting a little bit more similarly to how we knew them in college so the Hugh Jackson Situation I always like to give athletes a benefit of the doubt in the moment you're all fired up does he look back on that and think maybe I would have handled that differently no not surpri Bra- no but I think actually hugh I talked to Hugh for the peace and he said when he said look I took the job it was the right thing to do for me. I wanted to rejoin the organization that I had been with but I really I thought it was very interesting and telling how he talked about Mayfield. He told me look what happened between us in those final few weeks he used that to fuel the team because with Baker Mayfield. It's very tribal everybody who knows him says this you're either in or you out or you're out and Hugh Jackson knew oh he was out and I think while obviously probably didn't like it. He understood he understood. That's how he leads in how he operates a couple of seconds left. What does he think about the expectations on him and the browns this season of course? He says he's not afraid of them. He's he used to win in his past. He says everyone else in Cleveland needs to get used to winning as well. What else is going to say but that's what you expect out of a franchise quarterback whether he likes that term or not Meena thank you so much folks? Don't forget to check out our excellent article on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com. Turning now to the W._n._B._A.. Los Angeles sparks card required. A Williams has been suspended for ten games without pay resulting from a domestic violence incident involving ex-girlfriend in December now Williams who was arrested on felony burglary and aggravated assault charges after allegedly striking Curia Davis in the head and pointing a gun in the direction of a man breaking up their altercation was re signed by the sparks in late May and has been playing for the team while the criminal cases ongoing the W._n._B._A.. Says it conducted its own investigation making their own decision based on the nature and seriousness of the conduct at issue including the involvement of a firearm the W._n._B._A.. Players Union intends to file a grievance on Williams's behalf executive director Terry Jackson stating we are disappointed with the League's actions there is an ongoing criminal proceeding and in fairness to the player of the League could have and should have awaited its completion before taking action now as we discussed yesterday on outside the lines the W._N._B._A. Doesn't have a policy specifically addressing domestic abuse but they we do have a personal conduct policy so what should be done about players accused of assault and how should the W._n._B._A.. Address these issues now and in the future to answer those questions we welcome in N._B._C. Sports Washington basketball analyst Christy winters Scott Christie. What was is your reaction to the suspension? When you come down well? I was actually pleased that something was done about it because it really didn't look good for the League to have those charges hanging over the head of and active player on the sparks roster so with that being said today is the first day in office for the W._n._B._A.. President Cathy Engelbert and so I think that will be something that she will address immediately and terms of having having more than just a player conduct code in writing so I think obviously domestic violence it oversees everything in terms of gender and race and everything else wrong wrong so so I think they're right in the ten game suspension which is the most in W._n._B._A.. History Yeah you mentioned the how this looked. What do you think of the optics of a situation where you've got arguably the most well known women's Sports League in the country without a domestic violence policy Housi- particularly against women in the height of the metoo movement right well here in D._C.? There's Becky's Fund and I am very actively working with them to draw awareness and and create some kind of a sounding board for the people who are in situations of abuse and that be children seeing their parents having issues or just any kind of situation like that again regardless of gender but with that being said I just think that it really needs needs to be spoken to across the board. It's a societal issue obviously and require Williams yes with a ten game suspension but then Natasha Howard also now with the allegations over her in her divorce situation in Seattle and those are allegations nations no charges but require Williams with the two felony charges and the gun charge. I think that's a bit egregious. You know the Union is filing a grievance. They're obviously in a tough spot. I mean it's not like we're surprised that they've done that. They have a defend their players but at the same same time what do you make of that call in this environment. Is this a situation where maybe they shouldn't do that or try to find another way now. I think there needs to be a light on top of the situation across the board again. It's a societal issue but I think that the League is doing the right thing in terms of doing a thorough investigation in all charges and allegations that have been mentioned with their players of the League and I think that it just holds players accountable to their actions. And again it should be a societal thing where everyone is trying to be more kind and compassionate and understanding and situations like that you know I know I'm putting you on the spot a little bit here but I'm assuming that this is GonNa come up in the next C._B._A.. Negotiations Association's. What do we think should happen to people who are accused of domestic assault? What should the policy be well? I know that require Williams is already actively in the consultation peace and she is getting advice and she is getting counseling with the issue that she had but I think something like that needs to be in place prior to issues occurring. I think you need to be preventative more than using something and a retrospective aspect so I think the more we can do ahead of any issues is the best this thing and I think that's definitely something that will be on the table and the collective bargaining agreements for sure okay Christie. Thank you very much for your time appreciate coming up. He was a legend on the Supreme Court but it took him over eighty years as a fan one of his the biggest wishes to come through. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. 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Can Always Watch this game on the APP of course from anywhere few in American history of done more to shape society than Justice John Paul Stevens the third longest serving Supreme Court justice in history who died on Tuesday at the age of ninety nine front and Center for some of the most controversial issue legal battles in history from the treatment of inmates at Guantanamo Bay to the decision on who would be the president in two thousand Stevens also decided cases integral to the sports landscape. He wrote the majority opinion in a Supreme Court case allowing schools and conferences to to make their own TV deals which is why you watch the S._E._C. Network Year round and scores of college games every weekend but if you've ever spent years rooting for bad team with seemingly no chance of ever winning the title here in Good Company with the man who spent thirty five years on the Supreme Court bench because through all their trials and tribulations the good and the unspeakably bad justice Stevens was a die hard Chicago cubs fan saw his first game in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine and at twelve he was sitting in the stands for game three of the nineteen thirty two world series when the legend into Babe Ruth was cemented with his fame called shot the roof actually call one of the greatest home runs in baseball history was an issue of intense debate but the justice never left any doubt the put the bed in his right hand and pointed that right at the center field stands and then of course the next pitchy hit a home run and Centerfield and there's no doubt about the fact that he did point before he hit the case closed. 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Mayfield Of Dreams

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In fact, I was gonna say for about ninety nine percent last night, I was very confident you would be heating, some amount of humble pie instead taught. I was going to be just against all odds. Well, except for the odds in Vegas Vegas I desert. They did agree and props to you. But we got a name and that name to your credit is Baker Mayfield because after Toronto Taylor got hurt Mayfield Denver last night's game down fourteen to NADA in the second quarter, led the Browns to their first win in six hundred thirty five days Bomani. How much of a believer did Baker make you less? Well, the thing that I took from that game is that he's pretty decisive, right? There's a criticism to be made to rod Taylor is he needs to be wide open for he throws the ball Mayfield. So in that ball with the antecedent patient and Robin at badboy down the field like you see why it is the he got drafted in the place that he was. He's also rookie though, right? There was some other place that were not so great. The protection seemed to be better in the second half in the first half, which obviously helped him is not his fault. It was bad in the verse, but I mean if he looks like that, I am surprised that he did not start from the beginning. Yeah, and Cleveland and Ohio. And I think much of the NFL fan base is now super high on Baker Mayfield. They're super high on him for the reasons you said. And there's Hooper high on him in the sense that I feel like they're chemical arrangement over their brain is being re-engineered like, this is what a guy who looks like a superstar seems to look like because his charisma after the game watching introduc- there is some old moneyball baseball scouts stuff that's going into this and that's part of his charm. He looks like he looks like an alpha quarterback. A danger is everybody falling for that right? And there is certainly how ever so much what was discussed. Last night was about Mayfield and aesthetics in the ideas of energy and everything else called down. Does this do to still a rookie quarterback? There are going to be games that don't look so good. They won't always be playing a team that's playing its third game in eleven day. Eleven, right, right. So what you saw was certainly encouraging for the what we do with all these dudes is you see a little glimmer of anything and we'll just can't help ourselves. Everybody involved with the broadcast last night was invested in selling the Baker Mayfield story in a way that was actually out of line with what was actually a very impressive performance. Everybody just which Joe bug was talking about these Baker chance that none of us on TV could hear, oh, and speaking of people who are now high on Baker Mayfield I give you JR Smith. If we can roll that tape. This turned off. They won. The game has been popped up that would have been a more risky bed. If you work like September was eighty. One degrees at kickoff, he looked, they finally got a win. Maybe we don't away episode all they got a their number one overall, big quarterback. Enjoy your weekend, Cleveland and guess what? JR Smith finally cannot be the top story in every Cleveland sports fans is brain for once. Sam darnold the jets rookie quarterback struggle for the second game in a row going fifteen to thirty one. Four hundred sixty nine yards. No touchdowns and two interceptors Pablo after week. One jets fans for sure they had found their savior. How should they feel today? So the thing about someone who is wandering through the desert and finally getting their thirst quench. The next thing that happens is they get hungry, right? And this is what happens after the honeymoon period. You've got to produce. You got to produce. And right now, Sam darnold is the ghost of Christmas future for a Baker Mayfield or for any other young quarterback who thinks once your debut is in the books that it's all smooth sailing very clearly despite the Browns being a very good defense, he's nowhere close to being the savior. No. I mean their third game eleven days. Right? Like this is a factor work discussing the other thing though. Is this Sam darnold experience, right? I guess. So in anointing him as saver, talk about how good he looks. Out there and how there's a whole different vibe and everything else. It doesn't change the fact that when he makes bad decisions, they are the worst decisions. Right. And you saw that in his first pass an NFL player. You're going to see big dynamic plays outside of that, but this is the do that you've got. This is what he is. Well, he's now how much that will change down the line. I think we'll have to see, right, but this is what the experience is of having a rookie quarterback and you said that we saw it in his first game, and we saw all throughout his last year at USC when he tied for the lead in the division formerly known as one a in turnovers, twenty two. This is going to be part of his style as a quarterback. And yes, there are caveats that say, give him room to grow, but this is why it's good to tamp down those expert. Yeah, but we don't know how to do that Seagal. We did last night to Baker Mayfield just have no idea how to do. Yes. Mark Sanchez was once a beloved jets quarterback and kind of know what happened after that Carson Wentz is the next name because the eagles franchise quarterback will make his. Debut this season on Sunday. When the colts come to Philly, you had not seen the field since December twenty seventeen when he tore his ACL and l. c. l. Bowater fair expectations for this quarterback on Sunday. Because at the end of the game, bright, I mean, look, this is a quarterback who's mobility is a big part of his game. It is going to take some time to develop a level of confidence in the need to get this done. He has played a game since last December. It is possible that he could be great this week. It might look super rusty next week. But if you're expecting him to pick up where he left off, you were asking for far too much. Yes. Carson Wentz last year was eighth in the NFL among quarterbacks in terms of rushing yards per game, which I think is surprising to people who see him as a guy who was really good in the pocket as we see him on video there, and he is really good in the pocket, like in terms of his ability to fit balls into tight windows, he is the best in the league, went healthy at that. The good news for eagles fans is that I think they took the abundance of caution approach here. I. Think you're getting Carson Wentz probably a week or two more than Carson. Wentz was comfortable sitting out. So I think it's fair to expect him to at least arm wise be close to something like he was last. I don't think this is the abundance of caution approach because I think this whole industry in game the ACL used to be year in change injury right now. How much of that is science? Yeah, part of it is science. The other part is just because you will get hurt by playing. Does it mean to you should necessarily be out there playing? So he told that what a December. So now looking at about nine months and chain since the injury, that's at the front end of the timetable on an ACO recovery, right? So I am not expecting to see him. Look, quote, unquote, healthy out of respect him to look perp, but I don't expect him to look healthy and by the way, all of the possible complications that exist in front of this team center around the idea that Carson Wentz actually isn't looking as good as he did last year because then the question becomes wait a minute is Nick foles actually the better option and the president is it doesn't matter if he's a better option. The president's like if you think Carson Wentz is still your quarterback. In the third year, you want a Super Bowl last year. If you think this is what's necessary to get Carson Wentz up and go in for year four, then that is the thing that you do. You don't make no decision that involves. We're playing Nick foles. Just try to win some games right now. All right. Next name's Connor McGregor. Greg. Bieb Nova Gobert off healthier, press conference yesterday, head of UFC two twenty nine on October six and Connor brought his brand of whiskey watch. Oh, brand I belong. Tonight's Lynn. Tonight, his own countrymen his own people that he's that he's turned his back on. They wanna see him gone to and I am going to do it in the name of the Russian people disrespecting your President, Vladimir Putin know why are you disrespecting your President Vladimir Putin? Then what do you mean by that? I don't take picture with all known for. They were chased from their land. They were chased from the land to the age of cliffs my family, my pollute line McGregor clan. We stood and we fall, we fought the English empire so much so that we are name was banished for one hundred years by King James at the time. Okay. Okay. What? Why you change your language. Home language. Talk English and speak. I speak my name. Go on macaque. Ken talk with you. You know, Greg, Sauter laugh in there. He started laughing. 'cause I got finally got you. Try to rattle fraud. I Tom, but he finally got, but does this intrigue you? Does this make you wanna watch the fight. It certainly makes it all feel more dangerous and it was plenty dangerous because previously, of course, Conor McGregor was seen throwing objects into a bus window, but when you invoke the name of lead Amir Putin and your opponent, who is there being like? I thought this was sort of pro wrestling anelle. This seems to be a little bit too real. Kind of intrigued by what happens next, is he? I don't even know if he thought this is pro wrestling. He looks so annoyed from the beginning conifer Gregor is the drunk dupe. Right? Who's just starting a conversation, at least in the behavior. Behaving as such. The guy that comes, it just starts talking crazy to you, except the problem is you can't just walk away. He has to sit there. He has to continue to do this throughout the whole thing as he insults your whole nation. Yes, became very awkward. Geopolitically, Drake, demands, Muslim and doesn't drink though. Then this is the problem when the guy who's drunk at the bar is the guy who was also responsible for paying your tab. Yeah, that's the problem have to ride this thing. All the way out is not along and hope you'll get hit on by. I'm going to watch. It must think I've problem here we go. High noon is brought to you by McDonalds. Did you know ADT can design and install a smart home just for you a new smart home at your service customized for your lifestyle. AT's automation, even unlocks the front door for friends who arrive at your place early for the game while you're still getting snagged. Now that's what I call game day service. It's all controlled from the ADT app or the sound of your voice and backed by twenty four, seven protection visit ATT dot com. Slash smart to learn more about how ADT can help keep your home safe and smart about what you know, the NFL robbery and the league is playing this weekend. You know what that is. Right. Well, we got it is falcons in the same. So let disease coz buys fool you. The bayou classic of the NFL ain't nothing better than to buy. Classic urban street has never steered me wrong. Although I guess it has gone dangerously close to steering me into a gutter. I wrote Minnesota is telling teams that Butler's in elite player and a franchise intends to keep them. Tweeted Adrian wars in our skeet Bomani. The think there's a chance to timber wolves will really just hold on Jimmy Butler and ignore his trade request. No, because I think they fired Tom Tippett. Oh, before they allow such thing to happen because I feel like the only person who looks at this and says, yeah, we gotta keep is the guy who feels like his job security is tied to making the playoffs this year. And all these seems to care about by the way is making the playoffs. Now you'd be a championship contender. He's not here to lose, not here to rebuilt, but he's got to go. I got his. They'll see any way that there is around. Yeah, they have different time arises. Tom typical is a guy who needs to win in the present and Glenn Taylor. The owner is a guy who will own the team until it turn ity. That's the difference. But I think it's funny to look at the life cycle of how these trade demands rise because guy asks for a train. We all dive in and figure out, okay, why is he unhappy social media beef emerges, and then the team is putting the author's position of trying to convince other teams, other suitors that actually all is well, please don't try to get a discount on a guy who clearly. Wants and look. There seemed to be a lot of teams that are interested in gimme getting Jimmy Butler, right? Like a six, eight two way wing, right? They're not that hard to fund man. That's an easy to fight. So they're going to go ahead and try to make this work thing. I do think the typical understands that it's important is that do right there is by far the best player on that team, right? Like maybe the day will come Carl towns that guy and maybe the day will cover edgy Wiggins becomes better than an average NBA player. Jimmy Butler is the best player on that team per one hundred possessions. They were thirteen points better with Jimmy Butler on the floor viruses with him off. So if they get him outta here on one level, it's rebuild except it's not a reveal because they're already already paying all this money. They enter Wiggins. And what is crazy is that this whole conversation can't take place. Third, biggest name in the conversation has been Karl Anthony towns who is the franchise player, and who is the guy incidentally, who went on social media to deny the rumor that Jimmy Butler had slept with his girl. Well, hold all. There's a lot of the argument or idea the chrome, Anthony towns. Is there Franch. Chai's player is their second best player. Yes, but also the most valuable. Bring the other guy wants to go for now quote, I would just say, stay tuned next week. There may be some news. Ghana cafe. Next attorney, Mark Garrett goes to TMZ about the possibility of two NFL teams being interested in signing cap. Let's listen. Year ago, he was going to get a contract in ten days. I would just say, stay tuned that next week there may be some news you might want to join the dolphins if I can. I wouldn't say join the dolphin. I've got two other teams that will remain name. I'll come on, give us a hand. I'll just say this if Al Davis was still alive, that's all I'm gonna say. Oh, Wow. Did you hear that mill wants to do a? He's he's going to do an anthem Colin Kaepernick anthem. I've heard that you know who mcmil was visited by when he was in custody. Tell the folks at home. Oh, bingo. What are you doing? First of all, it is a remarkably strange strategy to start with. Remember that time I told you something was going to happen, and then it didn't happen the now I'm going to tell you something is going to happen. What are supposed to believe you? So if I am a fan of football and I hear a Colin Kaepernick attorney dropped, hints about teams wanting to sign him during a collusion. Lawsuits, I am skeptical because the guy is still suing the NFL, and that's suit is obviously proceeding because the arbitrator said that after deposing Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft in Bob McNair and John Elway that their stuff here, it seems implausible that he may be signed. But the other thing is like if you're him right, do you want him to get a job or do you want him to win the collusion? Lawsuits? Is there a conflict there? Because I do feel like if they're interested, then maybe that undercuts his whole argument, the other direction. Does he the conflict at all? If teams are interested and then do not sign him, what's the prob. Maybe just maybe collusion. Right? Like the idea that interests from eighteen is not a refutation of the idea of legit inferior, right? You should look the job if the job is what you want, but none of that means they didn't collude against it before. Right. And I would say, by the way, like one way to make this go away. Last quote, this could get worse before it gets better going up to play a really good team. Nebraska coach, Scott frost, get set to play at number nineteen, Michigan on Saturday. They felt, oh and two after losing to Troy last week, ocean coach, frosty commended, for being honest with the fan. I mean, there's an argument for that, but we need to be real about the very particular circumstance that is at play here, Scott frost quarterback of the nineteen Ninety-seven brass the last Nebraska team to win a national championship. I think that guy can come in and say, hey, this is going to take a little while it may be, then people believe it, right. The thing is I don't have an answer and I've been trying to figure this out now for a long time. What does the ceiling on the brass kid twenty eighteen in the few this. This is not what it was in the seventies eighties or nineties. You can't play like they did playing in the big eight. So what is the ceiling for a school with no natural recruiting ground that isn't quite as a tractor, two kids from the sun belt as it once was. But let me make the argument for why. Scott frost is a good stock to buy because it stock, obviously after losing to Troy. Oy is real low. The guy went to UCF. They were Owen, twelve year one. He goes six and seven year to, of course he goes twelve thirteen in omitting some sort of a bonus game there, but that's still within the window that he has right now, right? Where's UCF? UCF is in Florida in so in their conference, they are at the top of where guys wanna go this schools into you can download behind him podcast on apple podcast. On the ESPN app Bomani is too. I also have one just in case you were wondering. This broadcast is brought to you by the thirteen heavy machinery operators who Doug this radio stations foundation, the fifty three ironworkers who laid the rebar, the twentieth cement workers before the floor is the twenty four electrons ten elevator contractors, twenty three carpenters, nine plumbers, twenty Mason's twelve glaziers nineteen mechanical contractors and the hundreds of thousands of workers to maintain the nation's power grid and radio towers. Also, you can hear me, say words like terms and conditions, limited time or Cohn c-. Fresher. Trump's do. Be there. There are talkers and their doors timberland pro work. Apparel and footwear always do never done. Vaga fans. Thanks Hayden to buy. It is like real in ways that people don't see the stay. And so which is more fun to watch. One of those games I try to avoid makes company for you though. Those fair point. Today's number just wealth. That's about how many TV in film broad LeBron James currently has in the works voted. We underestimate how serious LeBron was about the Hollywood like, yeah, you know, guys, I'm starting to think that maybe just maybe this whole I'm going to LA may have been playing years. Been there for two months. He's already got that that cover shop for the Hollywood reporter and all of that magazines don't turn that around and like a couple of days, right. Like like LeBron being Mr. Hollywood, maybe it's coincidental that he then showed up in Hollywood, but he's been ready for this. This does feel like his ambition and by the way, what's interesting about all of Hollywood doing this, treating him this way to me is that he's getting to do in Hollywood when he cannot get done in the NBA which is make money from everybody who values him in accordance with his actual market value. He is an owner in entertainment in the way that he cannot be in sports. And yes, he has shows with HBO and Showtime years shows with NBC ABC and CBS. Andrew. Glenn, Amazon, everybody wants a piece of LeBron James and the attention economy because guess what he gets all of our attention. Well, now's the next part stuff needs to be good. Right. Is the next night this shop the pig. Ears to be good. I'm encouraged. I've enjoyed an athlete documentary, but that's the next level. Is this good? I have no real indicator when LeBron's taste on when it comes to programming. That's what I wanna see. Well, the good indicator for that is, you know, Ryan Kugler is a producer on Space Jam to their sprinkling in a little bit of highbrow amid globe route. And so that to me is a sign that maybe he's actually going to try and push the John four. See, that doesn't tell me anything about good taste, hey, get the guy who directed Black Panther to come, do a movie that everybody loved in the first place, right? Like that, all that one, eight hard like this other stuff like Muhammad Ali documentary, that is an ambitious undertaking and not that easy to get right. Antoine food was doing that. I have faith that that's a good choice, hopefully. All right. In closing, I like to thank Jerry Stackhouse whereas new foul role as peacemaker. Now, one would think at least those of us who know they would kiss the together. Now, you know you in Trump. The kiss North Carolina's though Stackhouse call Port Arthur Texas, Stephen Jackson to squash, whatever that was between Jackson and the Wiggins brothers sea, Andrew Knicks, Dan Mitchell is from Kingston and his close with stack. So Jerry made the pizza. And I'd just like to say to the Wiggins brothers seems you boys know stat. You wouldn't have said anything like that step. Steve has stacking his phone OG Stackhouse because he's a lot like step you feel the number on screen shot is telling to me one minute and three seconds for Stephen Jackson to commit to the idea of. To stop doing this because this man, Jerry Stackhouse is one of the few people that apparently can have that influence on a guy, even Jackson that everybody. Otherwise I imagine I don't know how the call right, but I imagined the call is Jerry Stackhouse a man who lets nothing slum called another man who lets nothing slide and saying. Now you know how to let nothing slide right dude for me, man. Cool with me, you know, the so wall and then go from there. But I do feel like the young players in the NBA like this new cycle is your opportunity to appreciate that. If you're playing streetfighter main of MBA characters, Stephen Jackson is maybe not the final boss because Jerry Stackhouse maybe that also the teachable moment here is don't everybody reply with means? Okay, don't don't. Don't have these people fool. Some people were with the good old fashioned. Yes, and it's not going to be so good for you in closing. I want to invite America to join me in Conteh. To marvel at a tweet that I did not believe was real, to be played honest with you here. It is for years. I have stayed away from Twitter because there was very little positively. I will stay completely away from cynicism and destructive words. I hope to bring a spirit of optimism which is so needed today. Now let us reveal who this is from. Oh, it is our whole check now, old friend, Rick Petito Bomani when we saw this tweet appear yesterday, there was no blue check. We thought this was fake. It might be right. It seemed to pitch perfect. It does seem to pitch perfect also team nonsensical, because if you are this man, Rick Pitino who has traffic din inspirational books for his whole life, Twitter, right. To avoid cynicism to avoid insults is like going to the sewer and saying, I am not here for sewage. We also if he wants to avoid the cynicism and don't tell him what mentions are because they are going to be shot. Full of them? Yeah, live sub it fifteen seconds on Monday.

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Hour 3: Can't Question Giannis' Competitiveness

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So the nuggets get it done eighty to seventy eight. Now, an Opportunity J. for James Harden to get it done this game seven this is against his old squad. There's a ton of people that think hardened just as out there scorn a ton of points and that's great and nobody doubts his individual talents but this is a big spot in round number one for one of the greatest players of his era. I think James Harden legacy of winning having a chance to win a championship is on the line here and look his legacy has cemented as as one of the most gifted innovative scores. We've ever seen in the history of the game. He's proven that right multiple scoring titles, MVP he's incredible. But at today we evaluate teams or players on how many championships have you one right? It's things that have haunted players in the past. It's Charles about that. We, probably will. Right. And I think when you look at James Harden. The way things went down last game with Russell Westbrook taking the last COUPLA shots those last couple possessions me as a basketball player recognizing an and key and I talk about this is I think we're above Alice when we're on the court and James Is Alpha and the way but I felt like at times James becomes passive around Russell Westbrook. Now I thought it had to do with coaching. It did I I really think that at that time you needed the head coach to say, Hey, give the ball to James Harden but also. He's not the only one at fault. James. Harden needed to say to Russ. Give me the ball Russ Take Gimme the ball. So I think tonight if we have. Okay see actually this key would it's shock anybody here if we woke up tomorrow morning if you didn't watch the game and the headline was okay see wins. Game Seven. Shock you I wouldn't be shock-and-awe isn't that a problem? Isn't that what a problem we you're thinking about multiple MVP winners on the same team having a chance to do to win a championship the Houston Rockets with the style in which they play well, when they got Westbrook the first thing people say can they co exist to ball dominate players can? They coexist. We saw what happened with C. P. Three in hard right they had golden state in in headlock and then when C. P. Three got hurt it kind of got away from him a couple of years but he got her. Yeah. But he got hurt got way from a couple of years ago. The marriage ended they moved on sentiment. Okay See. Now when you look at it, you say to yourself. What is James? HARDEN WEARS THAT LEGACY If you don't WanNa Championship or you don't put yourself in a championship position People GonNa look at you as a regular season scoring champion. That's pretty much it an MVP. So you don't ever want to be known just based on statistics. That's why always when we talk about winning championships man. It was so damn important for me to win a super bowl. It was so important. It was important not only to win the Super Bowl but be an important part in this. To make sure that I had a great season, all of those sorts of things. So when you look at it, our defense was dominant but I played a very important role because important to be able to how to championship I don't care about him. Pro Bowls in playoff appearances and. Can Finish the deal with a ring on because it's like a degree nobody can take that away from and when you win a championship, nobody can take that away from you. You can talk about the regular season and your champion regular-season your MVP and comeback player to hear. But it's different when you got the ring on your finger backs and I think the narrative that. Is. Correct. Faxes correct and I think the narrative then becomes if they lose game seven to Chris Paul. What kind of player this James Harden need to play with that can help him do that. It's not an Alpha. Nine Alpha right and he's looking to the last two years. Look at the last two years CB three was an Alpha that was a problem Russell Westbrook, Alpha? James. Harden take the last I. Don't Know James. Harden is an Alpha all the way. James. Harden is an Alpha and the way he scores, but I don't know if he's a demonstrative meant how? Give me the Damn Ball, Alpha, that's that's Russell Westbrook. I think. He I think he is that Gimme the Damn Ball Alpha I. Think he is I've seen times where he's just basically game took it and took the shot. You see what type of player would you need to play? It's not who he needs to play with him. A certain way if you go back to his days at okay. See when it was him Katie Perk in obviously in Horn. When you look at that, he wasn't the main focal point. He was kind of a guy within with a bunch of guys. That's what he needs to be able to do is get with a team that got a couple of guys that will allow him to do what he needs to do not trying to do too much. So yeah. You're right. So maybe we need to if this happens then I think you have to start resetting expectations yes or James. James Harden to score forty points every night we're not GONNA win here we're not gonNA. We're not going to win that way how. So then the conversation becomes is James Harden our second best player third-best. Championship man s okay. There's nothing wrong but you know there's Nathan. will go crazy with a guy who can score forty, five, fifty, one of the most. Gifted scores we've ever seen in History Essex saying. Hey I, if we're saying a I become a second option, I wanNA championship being that guy. Which is Down so You're right. You're right. You're right. Championship. Finals. Time lack of sleep. Stuggle Mickey cut me. No, you're right. It's all we make mistakes and we correct them. That's what we do. But if you think about it those e and you go back to his okay see days. Those the way that they style in which they played. That's what he needs. Not the Dan Tony System that allows you to. Jack up threes all day long. No. It's not gonNA work with him. You can't do it. It's. It has been proven that that is not the way to win. A championship could be the final game for my can't Tony as well. He's sixty nine years old his contract is up. There's been a lot of discussion around him. keyshawn Jay Wills Zubin presented by Progressive Insurance Progressives homequote explorer is changing the way you buy home insurance. Now you can go online and get a custom quote and save both time and money learn. More progressive DOT COM Doris Burke is three minutes away Tim, legler echoes exactly. What J. Will said, he said this Mike Greenberg Radio Show greenie yesterday essentially, the burden on the beard is heavy. So he gets them all the way and I mean talking about two finals he's GonNa continue to deal with this every time there's teams come up short in the postseason. I think a lot of it's GonNa fall at his feet he has. To have a big time performance when you've done when you put your offense Greenie that much in one player's hands, the way that they do, it's unprecedented in NBA history the way the operate their offense around one player will then you need to come through with a huge performance when your team has to have it So it's GonNa fall in large part at his feet, and I think obviously with Mike Dantonio, not having A. New Contract I. think that would lead to a coaching change as well. So there's GONNA be some definite changes the way you look at everything and there's no question hard can't escape this if they don't win this game J I think that is put super well from the standpoint of yeah. Usage all the nerds, the numbers guys they love the usage rate at the end of the day here talking just what am I is showing It shows you that. He gets a lot of shots up he scores a lot of points but at the end, they can't finish in. You can't win that way long-term. Any MBA. Planning NBA but I'm not a damn fool. I know what I'm seeing her I know sports and you think about it whether it was the Great Phoenix teams of Steve Nash with Dantonio by the way Antonio. Was Out in La when he was coaching with us in couldn't figure it out or whether it's here in Houston or whether it was with the Knicks you're going to always be at the top of the leaderboard scoring. But at the end, you can't finish the deal I. Know CPI three Adam in a position, a couple of years ago and he's got. Hurt and it kind of just disappeared but you've got two guys and MVP's like you said Jay, in Russell. Westbrook as well as hard that are high octane scoring machines, you can't have that without having a sort of plan in place when that doesn't go the way you envisioned to go in they do not have another plan in place you're all or nothing. You're all or nothing. There's no adjusts the scary part about all of this stuff Zubin is that we still haven't seen the all yet. We haven't seen the all yet. We haven't seen both Russell Westbrook and James Harding get hot and. An avid die hard basketball fan is a fan of sports there nothing better. You have to high caliber players that get hot at the same time if that were to happen because look two, thousand twenty. Expect the. Unexpected. If that were to happen that would be. I would give them a chance to beat the Lakers. If were to happen if they got hot at the same time if they got hot, they have to be extremely hot but here's the thing you're always on the edge of your seat waiting for the happened because of the potential of happening but got to also take into consideration. One of them get hot they GONNA stay hot or not shit Iraq. That's not necessarily true. Pointed a prop mom part of the problem that's necessarily gonNA. Try to go sixty, thirty, five I. Hear You Harden is at thirty five you're GONNA try to go hunt with their bring gains in both those guys have had thirty, five, forty points where he just everybody else gets him where they fit in. That's what they have all the answer Larry piece. But has that been in a situation in a game seven where all their pressures on you now? No. But I'm saying once again, the mentality is look survive in events. My thing is you need to get to a new day in order to see what the new day brings you, but you need to get to that new think. So you need a big time game from James Harden tonight, an Russell Westbrook the by game seven in order to get to a new day with the Lakers think about Brooke and game was five game five with the last shot was fired rotate you mean game six game six okay. Think about Westbrook I mean he Shot the ball. He didn't it up. He decided he was gonNA take the last couple of shots. That's all I'm saying when you got that type of mentality you you it's hard to change your mentality but that have you. Might be in. Tony's problem though that's why he needs to be that person that is demonstrative that actually specifies give the ball the game as he ever done that. No, but that's the that's the problem you can't. Then my point is not going to change your not just all of a sudden change, your philosophy, your thought process in your style because your system, you believe works and it's in place to win championships even though you've never won a championship with it, but you just won't change in. That's Dantonio. Let's get doors his opinion on this because she always gives it right down the line. Yeah. She's twenty seconds away the twenty fifth anniversary by the way the rockets last championship keyshawn Jamile Zubin. Reminding you to check out ESPN audio at home by telling Alexa to play news from ESPN ESPN audio at home is brought to you by Mercedes Benz Vans, driving mercedes-benz Van, and find out how far extra mile really goes from customization service to financial assistance. Mercedes. Benz vans are ready for anything and we are ready for doors Burke Hey DB. Good. Morning. That's twitter feed. We were talking about this morning doors I. Know you're in the call for the raptors and the Celtics I called Brad Stevens, the Kawhi of coaches he's quiet. You don't hear from them. He's not demonstrative but boy is he effective? You're on the call last night take us inside y he has been so successful with this particular group. Just, WanNa go to your first point. That's okay. Zubin because it's fascinating. You just said that about his temperament and I'd love to hear what Keyshawn J. we'll think about this because day passion I off camera in between quarters were we were talking about this and sort of you know Jay there's always this talk about a coach has a in the NBA has a window in which the. You know if you're not pop or Rick Carlisle or one of these guys whose tenure is so long that there's a window and then your voice starts to not resonate a little bit I think because Brad's temperament because he doesn't seem to get too high or too low. He's never swimmer like he's always going to make this point I've been in this training camps like there's this. evenness in the way he addresses these men that I think can help his tenure. So let me just throw that back up. The guys. Do you think is Kenya could be sort of like a pop because of that. I I. Do I think eventually he wins the championship in in we're not even having this conversation doors I. Think when you look at it, he also has the support of Danny in the front office there's. No grumbling going on in front office, the coach coach plus players of bought in from day one, right they they. They like him there. You don't hear any complaints about him. They're listening to him because when you believe coaches, you know you'll run through a wall for him and I think that's what we're seeing in in Boston and Andorra's I would throw this back to you I. Think after watching how turbulent the row was a couple years ago with Kyrie and seeing them grow through that those relationships bringing Kimbe in. Watching Brad Stevens managed that. Had to be difficult because the outside pressure on that relationship and how he dealt with that I thought was was critical and I gave them, I, give them a lot of credit for managing that that that was challenging for him and I I think players have bought into him for how he managed that. And I think you're pointed salad like he's a guy who's always going to do a level of self examination. You know, where can I get better? What are my feelings have I fallen short and I'm sure he looked at that relationship with Kyrie and every guy on that team and how he managed each each one of those because that ecosystem obviously is constantly changing and just to keep Shawn's point about you know grumbling so. At. The center spot, which has been the one question hovering over whether they're championship caliber. Look at what he does. You know cantor is critical in the last series He basically in the eight seating games splits the minutes at center between Cantor and Williams because he knew might meet each in a different series and so Robert Williams is perfect right? He goes for ten in the first quarter they had to endure what they knew was coming, which was Toronto was gonNA throw the First Punch last night I just think you know his handling of of the players and and cantor being. So genuinely enthused for the success of his team and Robert Williams is telling and. No I'm curious I think what you've done as you forced. Toronto to execute and a half court they are nowhere near as lethal. You, you've helped him twice now with a with a high number of turnovers and they they paid a little bit more last night but not as much as required, and though I know this team as a championship pedigree and they've been down before it feels different than the season to go to me guys. DB. Let me take you over to the game tonight six thirty on ESPN network the versus the bucks. The other day Jaanus was asked by a reporter how commuting Gar Jimmy Butler and I think you know his response is responsible because well, coach tell me to. What do you? What do you take about I? Mean obviously, it's not the only reason they lost that game but ultimately of Jaanus in the mentality and answering that question, what do you make of that? Yeah. I'm not going to go down that route only for this reason. Okay. You know number one I believe he should have probably said I'm going to guard him right or coach. Just, I want that guy let can I have him for the next five minutes of this? Okay that's absolutely one hundred percent agree with that. But in no way, am I going to question this guy's competitive fire I? Think his major is and his belief in but is so fundamental and so pure that it wouldn't cross his mind to to maybe challenge you know the match up in the moment now in the aftermath of this and the chatter and everything else well now it's brought to his attention and I'll be very curious to see Do those matchups change particularly in those moments? Right it go back to when Lebron James Wins the battle against collide finally before the season shutdown and the battle against Milwaukee and he goes. And seeks out those two stars because he's like, okay, it's my time I have to do this. Whether they score on me or not, it's my responsibility I just wonder if that wasn't a sign and I've not spoken to. So I'm not close enough to have this kind of conversation. 'cause my my level is different here in the bubble it would be something I would ask him directly like did it cross your mind? Why should do that? Well, you know now now. That you've had chance to think about it how different do you think about it? Like let's I'm going to give the guy a little bit of a runway here just because I know how competitive he is individually. So wasn't a mistake in that game unequivocally, but I think Mo- moving forward. You know that probably changes now Doris Burke is joining us here on Keyshawn J. Will Zubin. Let. Me Ask you about tonight's game. Okay. See Against Houston and for whatever reason or however you may unfold C. P. Three takes care of business we wake up tomorrow. Is in moving on and James Harden Westbrook and dantonio packing their bags. What's the narrative that would be set about those guys in Houston? Yeah I mean listen. It's a great question number one I would say fundamentally like I in no way put put. What happened at the end of the last game on James Harden Shoulders you know Russell I thought struggled throughout the course of the game that. They. Run that particular action keyshawn we're Russell starts with the ball. He sort of gets himself to the elbow and throws it back to to James that never materialized and to me that's on Russell like hold your dribble, get it back out and you know find a way and you know Russell is beating himself up in the aftermath of that game and he'll come back like a house supplier tonight. this. This will be interesting because. I think the long view of history will will you might Dantonio? He fell short in Phoenix if not for a Robert, ory hip check and in the ensuing, you know sort of fracas that the develops. Do they win a title that that went that year if Chris Paul doesn't pull his hamstring in that series. And this is the fine line between winning or losing. But when I talked to coaches Keyshawn, they say this man was revolutionary to the game. So it's the long view of history that or the lack of success in his particular spots like the system only works so so so hard. So I don't know the answer those questions I think it's obviously something up for for long and strong and passionate debate amongst fan basis. And I just going say this about crystal Paul. You know. All they do is they hang around long enough for the Maestro to take over. His ability to get to that poll up game his ability to manipulate the game. The little shot he took in the post game interview, some guys are built for that. You know he's trying to get in their heads after game six, four, game seven like the Guy He makes me laugh he's a joy to watch play and you have to admire the competitive spirit DB what what does that say about CPI three not only has he taken? Okay. See to game seven. He's one of the leaders in the NBA this team is one of the leaders in MBA in clutch points. He's handled a boycott. Essentially, he's been on the phone late night with Lebron James Brock. Obama he's having so much on his shoulders, but he's still plays such a high level. Looks from you know obviously I feel. You know quite lucky to do what I do to watch. It's men you know hone their craft and do all these things Chris Ball in particular I've been covering him since he was wake forest you know going against your dookie, which were always incredible matchups. You know he's always been a leader I think he's always been somebody who's been an unafraid to challenge teammates to challenge coaches and now to challenge society, and the fact of the matter is very little. Change happens without somebody directly standing in front of you and wanting confrontation and you know I'll go to Jimmy Butler for across comparison you know Joel Embiid tweets out heading tweeted months, and after he watches Jimmy. Butler closed the Miami game he tweets twice. Like when you have a crystal Paul or Jimmy, Butler Lebron James Those guys and Kevin Durant and it goes something Steve Kerr said about Kevin. Durant. Like there's a handful of guys who can do these things. And It's you know we're watching the best in the world do what they do, and yet there's this cream of the crop level like for ten years Chris Paul was the best point guard in the NBA is he the Best Point Guard in the NBA? No, but you know what he does. He fights on the margins for every inch and millimeter because he knows he's on the back nine of his career shoot. He's almost to the nineteenth tee at this point. But like he's still fighting for the margins, he's trying to get better and look where he's got his team. It's really something special and we should appreciate Jay will know so well said so well said Doris will be on the call tonight for Miami will walkie against six thirty eastern on ESPN and then the big one, nine, o'clock eastern game seven thunder rockets Doris was brought to you by the new Ford Super Duty. Built Ford tough doors. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys, thanks be more NBA chatter with Charles Barkley on the Shell Pennzoil performance line at nine thirty A. M. Eastern doors is so good. The best is so good. Just their ability to articulate people in their emotions and and what they're thinking in those moments doubt. We'll see you tonight on the call again still dot Com Russell Wilson ranked ahead of Aaron Rodgers on our ESPN top one hundred NFL players list for twenty twenty head key all fired up. But what is our resident quarterback Guru? Think the guy that played the position is onboard with Kyrie we'll see Gijon Jay Williams. The. PODCAST. Never wonder just how far an extra mile really goes drive a Mercedes Benz van and find out start with a network of over two hundred fifty authorized dealerships backed by a salesforce ready to help you with everything from customization to service on vans like the Mercedes Benz sprinter, it's tailored to your lifestyle with auctions like blind spot assist an NBA voice command for. 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So you can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money from your phone with a top rated APP and when you're done banking, put it back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life this is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your wallet capital? One, and a member. FDIC. Key we're GONNA talk straight with one of your NFL Life Partners Dinner Lobski here in just one second on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. But to recap our conversation and fell top one, hundred list is out one hundred players ranked by our forty-six analyst on exactly who will be a best performer in the NFL this coming season. Russell Wilson is at four Aaron. Rodgers, finds himself outside of the top twenty and that's your biggest burn. It really is in there's nothing against Russell I like Russell Wilson. As a player I, take him in a heartbeat the would love to have played with them but Aaron Rodgers at that position just different and I know people say well and won WanNa Championship in a long time and his team struggling Mana, do NFC championship game with us is receivers and I'll say that to the cows come home Jay was on one using the slot and I was on the other side. That's what we was thrown into a bunch of broke bound players. Outside of anti-atoms, atoms is. So when you look at it now, I don't know the parameters of why or how they get to the rankings in the position that they put the players in. But. If you ask anybody and we'll ask Dan this you take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers let's bring him in to find out dinner. laskey joins us on the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line keys teammate on NFL live four PM Eastern every weekday on ESPN I quick Atlanta probably should've asked you this in the commercial break. The forty-six that voted this. No No. I haven't climbed that wall yet to have that distinction. So No, I did not vote. So keys in the same boat there. So what do you think he's comment here. Wilson versus Rogers. Yeah I mean I actually would easily take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers I don't. See what he's accomplished and how great he's been, and he's still a really good player but Russell Wilson's the. At worst the second best quarterback in football right now and so you know the what has been the towards four is making something out of nothing and he'll kind of these these inexplainable type of plays. We see those routinely a Russell still and last year you know for everything that went against Seattle, he had them in the divisional round on the road against the Green Bay and I and I know keys point of NFC be or the packers being nasty title game is valid. As there's a lot of fool's gold there as well. I. Mean I think they won like nine or ten games by less than six points or something like that got to win the game. So I'm not gonNA knock them for that but like this was a thirteen and three team. And Thirteen and three team they did not go thirteen and three on the backs of their quarterback and his dominant play their skill position players. So Russell Wilson will have the better season Aaron he's got a much better team around him. Complimentary pieces wise as well, and that's why you didn't get a vote. Okay. Anyway. Let's move on. Did you. Yeah that's true too. So Dan let me ask you this column, Mary Jones Drew Lock and Garnham issue which one of these second year quarterback is prime for big time sophomore season. Yeah it Kinda Murray for me. And there's something that Carla Murray can do that will take him on a rocket ship and he'll be in the running for you know fringe MVP or offensive player of the year we they obviously ad hoc right and so I think the biggest adjustment with him hop comes from. John Hopkins isn't this timing type of receiver it's not like he's you know Sh- ordinaries, more of like he's never covered. He's such a good contested catch guy ball is in the area always makes the catch. And it's really like tyler getting comfortable with that like when you often see, you know a quarterback looks receiver. It's like well, is he going to get open doors and separations that doesn't really matter with Hopkins? You just make sure that you throw it in his vicinity give those one on one opportunities that takes time for quarterback to get comfortable with I'd say this was the most stack quarterback in football last year forty, eight sacks right and so as you watch the tape you go how many are on the offensive? Line stinking in how many are on the quarterback thirteen times Carter took a sack last year we're just didn't need to it just like the ball could have gotten out of his hands as a receiver open at four or five yards, just get it out and just the impact that has on his offense. Lamar took a massive jump Lamar Jackson massive jump from year one to year two near one he was sacked sixteen times in one hundred, sixty pass attempts. So one every ten times Lamar threw the ball was sacked. Twenty. Three times in four. I'm so one out of every nineteen. This massive jump that you could take a quarterback when you realize getting the ball out helps last year Kinda was sacked 48-times so and a five, hundred, twenty times one out of every eleven tenths so like if he just clean up those little things with the addition of the talent, his growth in the second year. This kid's GonNa. Be. Conversation, he's going to be that good I say caveat with they took the kid out of Houston Josh Jones or the offensive line as a tackle if he plays really really really well, some people thought he was a first round pick Charles off and it's going to be scary. Yeah Dan Dan you're you're breaking up a little bit there. No that Westport service have the same thing I feel you on that I. Want to ask you your big Carson Winston the company, my man, the biggest one I hear you talk about all the time. Dak Prescott is ranked twentieth on this ESPN NFL one hundred this whence comes in at thirty nine your thoughts. Yeah I mean Zubin could be ranked twentieth Spurs. The talent. Like. I would say this if Carson Wentz was on the cowboys this year you WanNa be ranked twentieth. He'd be ranked in the top six or seven in the NFL I mean their offense is low did loaded and so any quarterback is going GonNa go and play well, there will play well but there I'm actually surprised Jack is not rank higher because the talent that they have they have you know probably a top three receiving core Darwin's baller tight end that people don't know about their offensive on top five in the NFL and obviously top three back so. Carson Wentz a better player. This is not a discussion. This is not debates. This got solved year we if Democrats loses. Mario Cooper. Gallup and Harvard Smith and the for sometimes and leave this team to a division title and accomplishes things historically that hasn't been done at the position like Carson Wentz last year in Philly then maybe it will we will revisit. But for right now, this conversation has been closed. Okay. Dan. If you say so but let me ask you this question. Let's see if you can close this when the chiefs obviously gave the big deal to Patrick mahomes big money monster deal. Now Watson is up for extension. Will he get treated the same in Houston and if so should he take it or she looked go somewhere else? That's a great question I would look to go somewhere else There's a lot of there's there's a lot of lack of structure in Houston right now I and I'm sure he loves that organization love that steady but. You know ever since the death of Bob McNair, Russia's so there there's doesn't have have been front office. There a little Brian's good coach, not a great coach but a good coach and I would just sit there and go man I. Don't know if I really trust that this organization is going to put me in positions to play well and succeed the way Br v-chip, Andy, Redo, and the hunt family in Kansas City. I will say this about the Shawn Watson he is absolutely phenomenal. He's actually my sleeper pick for MVP this year. Best Offensive Line and most cohesive authentic lines. He's had three big time receivers that can go vertical. So will he be treated the same way they better? They better than Houston better because you know he's a main reason why they're even in the conversation to win their division and go to the playoffs keys that spectacular he's going to be. in the breath of Patrick Mahomes for the next dozen years in the NFL. Now, dependent on how they support him. We'll be if he elevates to that level or not, but he's he's spectacular. So Houston should get the deal done because don't wait till the end of the season to get the deal done because he is going to be in the MVP conversation this season I'll talk to some people about helping you get that vote. On. Keystone. Like Meyer and key I think yeah I like this. We let it in you. We will see key Dan Lonski, the whole gang, every weekday afternoon four PM Eastern on Espn for NFL live Dan. Thank you very much. Afternoon various already mentioned Bob McNair the late owner of Houston Texans who has passed away. We'll see what happens with the organization moving forward still to come one of the all time great intimidators on the court is dancing back into our lives if you love watching one of the most popular shows on television that's next Jeon Jae Willing Sylvan the podcast. Volvo help protect what matters most your family. The Volvo xc ninety. SUV offers a range of advanced safety features like an available built in booster seat for your kids safety and comfort, and the blind spot information system that has your back and alert you to cars in your blind spot. Wherever you go summer safely, explore exclusive offers on the xc ninety during the Volvo summer safely savings event visit Volvo cars, dot com slash us to learn more. Let's roll and we will start this morning with tennis. The US Open. It is day three in flushing Queens not too far from where we are at the South Street Seaport Studios in. Lower Manhattan we're going to start with Serena defeating Christiane in straight sets seven, five, six, three in her first round match on was around sixteen player last year. So she's a very good young talent Williams one hundred second victory at this major breaking tie with our Chris ever for the most us. Open wins by a woman in. The open air she's looking for that elusive next Grand Slam, which would put her in company with Margaret Court and the all time list at the very top of this is the years e for her no fans all the intensity. She could just deal with it herself and get that intensity going without the fans I think it's going to be perfect and it's awesome for tennis fans you know Wimbledon this year but at least got the US Open, every single point streaming somewhere on the ESPN networks nuggets in jazz who? Last night on ABC what an ending in a final seconds? Mike. Conley could've hit a three to end the game and end the series and give it to Utah in seven but instead it rims out Denver overcomes a three one deficit for the first time in franchise history it's only been done a dozen times in playoff history period they'll move on they got the clippers in game one of the Western. Conference Semifinals Yokich Murray PG colleague. was going to say last night you felt like when Utah was charging back. What would the energy in the building have been like in Utah they were playing that game at home game seven with the series would have been I just think you know if you had energy of the crowd, it might have been different scenario, right. But for the next forty days, we're GONNA HAVE NBA champion here in forty days. It's GonNa. Be a tough to just watch it without fans. Game. Would have been Denver read with the seating there Denver to three seat. So we'll see what happens but both passionate fan bases dancing with the stars speaking of passionate fan base is you can't be on TV this long without ever changing your format and be successful dancing with the stars is back September fourteenth on ABC. This season, we've got Nellie by the forty five now if you want to feel. Great Charles Barkley Charles. Oakley Cool Excuse Me Oakland? On with us at nine thirty excuse, me darkly would be great on their too though Bollywood Super Bowl champion Vernon Davis. Tiger King Star Carol Basket I need a little bit of a lesson on that. We've also got the figure skater Johnny Weir. You always seem now commentating during the Olympics and I would be remiss if I didn't mention that one of us three has personal experience on dancing with the stars key take take us a trip down memory Hollywood. SPF News, if you turn on the ESPN news right now you know. Collar popped no, it was. It was fun. It was. You. Know it was one of those experiences that you just step out of your comfort zone and you try to. Talk. News. So you know was just one of those deals. Uncomfortable but I was able to get it in but you know the interesting thing is I was the first one voted off right I in usually when you the first one voted off, that's because you're bad but this this. Is. What the stars is really geared in terms of voting and stuff like that social media and at this particular time, I wasn't a social media social media guy now. So people that were there. Have, big social media followings plus not only that they put me on there with about six professional dancers that had. Professional dance experience whether it was kristen. WHO's a? RB singer who dances and videos or Corbin BLEU or? Who else was on their? Amber from Glee who actually wind up winning so I'm up there with all these dance a lot of excuses to managers say look man I'm up there with all these dancers I have fun though it was it was a it was a lot of work. What was the practices like I've heard Jaclyn? You're working on ESPN two towers ESPN. So I would at the time when we first started, I was in Hawaii on vacation. So they sent my partner to Hawaii to interrupt my vacation to dance. So I would dance I would practice probably six hours a day. Wow. Hours and so when I come to when I would come to the city go to Bristol. Our get in on Saturday I would have practice on. Saturday. Due to show on Sunday then practice again on Monday before the Monday night show fly home to La Woozy went. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like. It was a lot of work, but it was fun man you get to experience something that. Otherwise I wouldn't you think I'M GONNA sign up for dancing and it took me forever to do it because they have been asking me for like ever you WanNa do you WanNa do and I'm like no, I'm good. I don't do it on what eventually they went to your agent what turned the tide for you. I. Just I got tired of him asking hold on hold on, I'm going to zoom and keep asking you questions what's going on he's never watch tiger king is this true Side Z. Carol Baskin like I knew who she was but I have no idea who she is. So how do you? Okay. So first of all, we are in a major pandemic in the middle of the spring. There's only two things that you should have really honestly paid attention to were under rock. There's tiger kings in the last dance well I saw the last if you didn't watch that. So. Carol Baskin allegedly fed her husband to these tigers allegedly don't know if she did she did and I don't really don't care how he's dancing and now she's on the only place in America that you can. 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NFL Free-Agency Provides A Welcome Distraction

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NFL Free-Agency Provides A Welcome Distraction

"Live from the Investors Bank Studio Woomera size in Gregg Giannotti boomer and Geo on the fan across the country on radio DOT com across the world on radio DOT COM opened to be back on. Tv as early as next week but we don't know NFL taking center stage admits this corona virus. Reality that we are living in. I saw funny tweet yesterday that said at about ten. Am people were writing? Nothing will ever feel the same. Nothing else matters. It's all about this corona virus and then at about one PM. It was what an idiot bill. O'brien is Oh my God. How could you trade? The Andre Hopkins shows you still in this weird time that we are living in this Black Mirror episode did we are finding ourselves in right now at the. Nfl can still make some news. Good Morning boomer our you I'm doing alright. Geo and I will say that I was thankful for the NFL to keep this free agency thing going and right now we haven't even gotten to legitimate free agency and the start of the year. That's tomorrow we are still in the so-called what they call legal tampering period. We're just oxymoron. Obviously so we kind of know where everybody's going and what's going on so far and there have been some amazingly stupid moves in foul. Yes over the years This I'm not really sure what's going on down in Houston and you don't have a general manager there so it's Bill Ryan is basically run the whole thing and remember last year. He made some controversial trades. 'cause he kind of went all in. Laremy Tunsil. Yeah you went all in and trade away first. Round draft picks and all sorts of stuff and now he decides the trade one of the best wide receivers right in the middle of his prime at the twenty seven. Now the question is I believe that the Andre Hopkins was GonNa want a new contract so that that that was going good be- down the road maybe a year or two but I if I'm the Shawn Watson Mike what the Hell did you just do. What did you just do to me as the quarterback? I can't even imagine what he must be feeling like right now. So they trade a wide receiver for a running back When did that happen? That happened back in one thousand nine hundred five when the New York jets decided to trade our number one receiver rob more to the cardinals for Ron more. The running back. And that's essentially that's how like you never know when things are going to break one way or the other and who's going to benefit from decisions like this but wink Rabat. Really benefited from that decision. Because we got rid of all of our experience wide receivers and Wayne made the team so and then we can turn out to be a great pro really turned out to be a great jet. So you just never know what's going to happen but that's just for one player overall for the team the morale of the team the morale the fans and everything else. I think that Bill O'Brien is just like taken so many chances over the last two years now. This draft class is supposedly loaded with great wide receivers. All the way through the first three rounds. Is there one that even remotely is remotely close to what the Andrea I mean? Th there could be but that that's a big could and I think that a couple of things come to mind right away one. You hear that De'andre Hopkins want a new contract here that the Andrea Hopkins Bill. O'brien didn't get along all that well and this is exactly why you need as you say all the time. A ruthless general manager. Who is in buddy buddy with the players or isn't someone who's emotions are going to get the best of him when making personnel moves head. Coach can't be the general manager and also it's not so much that he traded De'andre Hopkins. We've seen guys get traded. The past in their prime he got nothing. He Got David. Johnson who is slowly turning into a pile of dust and he got a second round pick plus he has to pay David. Johnson guaranteed money this year. What joke is that and then later in the day defined digs? Go to the bills in this. All I mean Stefan Digs. I love as a player. He authored one of his part of the in one of the great moments. I've seen as a fan in the last several years of the Minnesota Vikings. I know he was disgruntled. I like him as a player of memories. But my God. He's not the Andre Hopkins Hot. I rent you got all the stuff to Vikings got back including the first round. Pick this year in that deal so by the way the cardinals did not want Johnson anymore and the team. That's why they I think they transition tag Kenyan drake who they traded for from the Miami Dolphins. But it's amazing to me that if if this is what you were giving up to get the Andre Hopkins more teams worn in on this. Unless he zeroed in on David Johnson for some reason maybe it has something to do with money or something but I think the jets are on the giant well not giant so much maybe but because the giants really need defense. And they're really trying to go after defense would bradberry Martinez signings. You could see in the Leonard Marshall Leonard Williams tag and all that. That's all defensive stuff right now it just to me. It's amazing that that's all they got back for him now. There's gotta be some something else to this story that we saw. I'm not so sure I mean all right. Let's what could it be the Andre Agassi Bill? O'brien didn't get along right. That makes bill. O'brien look like more of a fool in doing this. I mean it's it's so easy to find the road that leads us to how this happened. You have a head coach. Who has already made these awful moves making another one? I mean that's what it comes down to. You can't be both in the NFL. Unless YOU'RE BILL BELL BILL. Belichick is the only guy that's been able to do this correctly. Bill O'Brien is an equipped and then after this season where you saw the clowney deal you saw the Tunsi tonsil deal Bob McNair. The owner should all right enough. We gotta get a general manager and here. He decided not do continue to give bill. O'brien the power and this is what you got. I mean I don't know if like David. Johnson won the fantasy football championship for bill. O'brien back in two thousand. Sixteen or what? The fascination is with David Johnson. But I mean this. This could possibly go down as a top five worst trade in. Nfl history. The Andre Hopkins continues to do what he should do out there in Arizona with column Ryan Cliff Kingsborough Air Raid Offense. He's either the best or the second best wide receiver in foot right now as we speak. It's either him or Michael. Thomas those two guys and two just trade 'em away at twenty seven when you not gonNA give a new deal. People Thought Odell Beckham. Junior's return in that trade with the BROWNS was bad. Yeah might WANNA rethink it after seeing this situation. But I would tell you that Odell Beckham. Junior really didn't have any impact on the Browns. Anyway right so actually looked like it was the right deal especially when you were trying to work in a new quarterback here. Could you imagine Odell Beckham Junior with Daniel Jones? Sure I know I mean. Listen time has been kind of that. Deal is my point. Yes Times been kind. So the giants. The giants basically tried to are trying to shore up their defense. You know so you can say whatever you want about Leonard Williams. He's a defensive tackle. He is a run stuffer If you if you look at his numbers over the last two years he's he's not GonNa while you he's not Aaron Donald. He's not going to be deforest. Buckner who the colts traded for. Who I love that trade. They traded their thirteenth overall. Pick for the defensive tackle for the San Francisco. Forty niners gave him a twenty one million dollars a year deal. He's twenty six years old today. Today's his birthday so he is right in the sweet spot of his career says a smart move. I think by Chris Ballard. I also believe that the colts are going to be very heavily in on Philip rivers. Who They can't if Andrew luck is out if he's out if he stays retired then I would think that their first option is going to be Philip rivers because of his relationship with Frank Reich but for the giants what they did is they went out and they got Blake Martinez. Now who is Blake Martinez? If you are a hardcore football fan you know. He is a very good linebacker. I'm not GonNa sit here and tell you that he's Carl Banks or Lawrence Taylor or even Harry Carson. I'm just going to tell you that. He is a solid linebacker. You know this from seeing him. Every year Dr Troy Aikman said his name probably more than he says. Own name over the last couple years. All the packer games top crew is called Multiplex Blake Martinez. So he got a three YEAR THIRTY MILLION DOLLAR DEAL. And what's interesting about him? He's been one of the leader in tackles in the NFL. Over the last three season he has had two seasons of one. Hundred and forty four tackles each one hundred. Fifty five tackles as well. He's played sixty one games in the NFL. Had Fifty seven starts. He does have ten sacks. Seventeen pass breakups three interceptions and he led all linebackers in Solo. Tackles this past year in the NFL. Solo tackles with one hundred and fourteen. So He's a very active player and I think he is going to be one of these guys that is is kind of an under the radar signing under this really that all that expensive either with it's not and I was Kinda surprised that the packers didn't keep him at that price at that price because they went out and got another guy to replace them two years. Now the interesting thing. I was asking Joe about this morning. I haven't seen any reports from anybody. Remember the new. Cba now is been agreed upon between the NFL PA and the NFL owners. Which means that in twenty twenty one most likely there's going to be a seventeenth regular season game. Yeah some of these contracts go into that season and passed it and I'm wondering if there is language in these contracts to pay those guys a certain amount of money or is the contract just going to be pushed out over seventeen weeks as opposed to sixteen weeks. I haven't seen that anyway. I sent a message out to somebody who would know. Yeah waiting on that. I did send it at a five in the morning but someone who would know the answer to that I sent it out so I'm awaiting but that is an interesting thing. I'm assuming and this is not really safe to assume because it's very complicated. That agents know what the deal is with the seventieth gain negotiated something into the contracts passed this year that reflects the fact that their clients have to play regular season. Let's say you're Blake. March is pretty easy for three years. Thirty million in year three of that third year deal. There's GonNa be an extra game he's playing in. Is there going to be extra money for that game or does that ten million dollars a year what bonus and all that stuff but is that is that just going to be pushed into that seventeenth game? He's not going to get extra money for that. Seventeen hours at the thing that we were talking about where? There's a cap for that fine where everybody gets two hundred and fifty thousand four that game and that was in the CBA wasn't it. Yeah but then I also. There was a loophole in the CPA. That you could actually negotiate that that seventeen game differently. I I have not seen the total agreement yet. I just I just get these little updates every now and again and that's one of the interesting well for me anyway. It's just interesting just. I wonder how. That's impacting. Some of these negotiations and some of the stuff. That's going on right now. I just haven't heard I haven't heard anybody in the NFL network talk about it. Yeah I haven't seen it on PROFOOTBALLTALK PRO FOOTBALL. Focus any of those great websites. I haven't seen any of this question. It seems to be unanswered right now. So I'll try to get the answer to it. I did like what the giants did. I liked the Blake Martinez signing I liked the James Bradberry. Signing James Bradbury is a guy who is twenty six years old who is a solid number one corner and someone that Dave gettleman drafted so he knows. What type of player is a person's right? So I I like both things that the giants did yesterday. Of course there's many many holes but they had hoped that you Norris Jenkins could have been the guy to bring along all those young corners. He attempted to do that. Didn't work out all that. Well you know James Bradbury as a season guy even at twenty six years old is hopefully the guy they can help the Andre Baker and Corey Balentine and the rest of the young players in that secondary. So it's a star. It's a good start for the giants. Now you know yesterday for the jets. It was a lot of frustration for jets fans because they wanted to land one of the top offensive. Linemen available I think Jack Conklin was the guy that everybody had their sights on. He ends up going to the Cleveland. Browns the Cleveland browns continued to make splashes there in the off season. We'll see if it turns into anything but you know it was six and ten seventy nine season again But the jets out on on Conklin the jets miss out on grant McLennan cow which is another guy who had high grades and Free Agency in one of the top two or three of Lyman available in free agency and everybody imagine with Joe Douglas's history of offensive lines and wanting to build that up that they would spend the money and instead you know they go out and it's a it's a shorter deal with George fant cheaper deal it's a cheaper deal and shorter content and got a three year deal so did fan three years and got forty two million and thirty million right. So you know the the interesting they. There is a ton of three year deals interesting. A ton of three year deals and I'm wondering if that has something to do the cap going on with the CAP on the seventeenth game there. Are you know there was The Byron Jones zeal from Miami. That was five years. Colvin for Miami was four years. Vitae for Philadelphia was five years but I mean seventeenth games going to happen when for four years so then the seventeen game will happen in the third year of these contracts. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm assuming not this year not next year but the year after or is it the year after. I thought it was going to be as early as twenty twenty one. Twenty Okay Isis. So then it would be in your of these of these graduates. Yes so I don't know I don't know but I mean I. It's it's very early to judge. Joe Douglas's job because there's been one day of free agency so on that hand I say give them some time the jets made splashes the last couple of years and CJ Moseley in Levian Bell and Tremaine Johnson and the like and really none of that has worked out so far for one reason or another. So just. Because you're spending these big box doesn't necessarily mean it's GonNa turn into production but you on the other hand I can. I can understand the jet Fan Frustration. Because you know they look around and see. The Miami Dolphins not messing around go bringing in three impact players in Byron Joe Jack Lawson and Kyle Van Noy well. We'll see you know winning the free agency. Derby doesn't always mean that you're going to win the Games you know. Come the fall but I will. I will say that I liked the colts. What they did they sign their tackled. Costanzo and then they trade it for Buckner. So that's offense blind defensive line. I love that at that. Colt defense is going to be really good. This year and adding buckner right in the middle of it is exactly what they need because I like them in the Baltimore. Ravens are really fighting to stop. Patrick Mahomes you're trying to figure out ways to get him to stop him and what they saw in the Super Bowl was pass rush. Got Up the middle. And that's where buckner was coming from. There was a lot of twisting and stunting with Armstead and both and I mean they hit patrimony quite a bit so I think a lot of a lot of teams in the AFC especially are looking at that saying we got to get those guys if we wanna beat or even have a chance to be Kansas City in the playoffs and I would say that Robbie Anderson staying with the jets after what happened. Yesterday is more of a priority now. We both said that Ravi Anderson left in free agency with an expensive deal. Your it might not be the worst thing for the jets at this point with the way things shook out yesterday and also some of these available wide receiver. I didn't know that the Andrea Hopkins was as availability was but apparently was stefan digs getting traded. I mean I don't know exactly Amari Cooper signing re-signing with the cowboys right and the jets need a guy. Ravi Anderson the beyond the team right. Now there's already chemistry between Donald Anderson. I think it's a it's there's a priority on getting that deal done now at least after one crazy day of free agency. Well you know I would say that since he did not have an agreement with somebody else that kind of tells you that he's probably stuck in some spot where teams are afraid to give him a lot of guaranteed money as he wants to stay with the jets and jets would like to keep them but they're not going to overpay to keep him he's not going to and especially with the wide receivers that are going to be available in this draft. That's not going to help. Sam Darnold 'cause he's GonNa have to help those guys as opposed to having a guy like Robbie Anderson who does have a relationship with so I I still think that core heads will prevail assuming that somebody just doesn't go overpay and he'll remain a jet but and I know they like speed and everything. It's just it's just a question you know. He's had a number of issues off the field and you have to be really really careful about how much guaranteed money. You'RE GONNA give a guy that you know you you want and you WanNa help and you want to help move forward and help him grow as a man and all that other stuff but you also have to be realistic about some of the things that have gone on in the past and you just got to be really careful about that. So hopefully will get his money and hopefully he'll be able to stay with the jets and and Sam Darnold now the interesting thing. I'm ask question. Can you see for the life of you Tom in a bucket near uniform? Yeah no kidding me. I know that that makes even have been saying. He's been gone now for weeks. If the box are the leader in the clubhouse. That's a tough thing for me to to figure out. I I can't no I. It would be bruce. Arians and Ham Byron left which is the offense coordinator. Yeah and have a good offensive team. There's no question about it. Great Wide Receiver. They throw the ball down the field with arens. Well well with crazy James Right. They always down the fiel- down the field down the field. Then Brady's not down the field thrower you know. A lot of his passes our ten yards or less now. He's incredibly accurate thrower and can read any defense. You throw at him and this will. He'll be going into a new offense. They're not going to change the offense to to meet his style his vocabulary and all that other stuff but I just can't see them in a book your uniform. That would be ridiculous. Well you can eliminate the Las Vegas raiders off that list. Marcus Mariota back. They're bringing in a Mario with car. And you'll see how that thing works out but I think they realized that Tom Brady thing is over for them so it comes down to three teams comes down to the chargers. The buccaneers and the Patriot. What would what would you think if I told you the dolphins yeah? I don't think so what you want to go in the same division right now. Calvin oil went down there. Bryan floors is the head coach. You know they're spending a lot of money trying to rebuild this team. They've got their stopgap guy. Tom Brady's GONNA WANNA go to a team. That's ready to win immediately. But I don't know how he or is he gonna go chase the dollars? I you know I don't know if it goes at Tampa Obviously Tax Free State and Florida and all that other stuff if he goes to the chargers to me. That's the one that makes the most sense because he just opened a production company out there. Twelve productions so that would make the most sense assuming the chargers are going to pay him because New England is not paying him. You a one year. This is what we're going to pay you and it's going to be in conjunction with what was already on our cat because of what we paid. You Bet is that that's a general manager. That is saying guess what I'm making deals here not you. But he'd better be careful because right now. There's not an option. I mean they're going to have to take a massive step back because there's not another option that could starting quarterback so I mean I I get it you want him to come back at your price but at the same time in the window now is then is shut completely. I mean there is some leverage there for Tom Brady because of Tom Brady goes back to the Patriots. They got a shot. It makes a noise in the AFC. If he doesn't they're done. I thought actually Brady had a really good here last year with a very suspect cast that he started with Josh Gordon. And then they brought in a crazy man. Tony Brown Antonio Brown and areas is subpar year subpar year but he gets the PL- The teams have playoffs again every year. They're in the playoffs. The question is you know. There's no way that the that the the New England patriots are going to give him thirty million dollars in real money this year. Now if you told me they were gonNA pay him seventeen million dollars in real money and have the thirteen million dollar cap it. At Up to thirty million. I could see that because I think that's what they're probably offering. But if you are the La chargers and you were trying to sell season tickets so you gotta get you. GotTa give them like a two year. Seventy five million dollar deal. Don't you have to? This is their opportunity to strike. They've got to do it. They've got to break the bank. I it's boomer and Geo on this Tuesday morning with some. Nfl News. Talk about we'LL GET JERRY RECCO in here with an update in just a couple of minutes.

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Coaching Changes

Outside the Lines

23:34 min | 1 year ago

Coaching Changes

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These kids kept talking about King James, I'm finally stopped one his his life. Who is this king Django says that's what Brian James people were wear. I in dead. He laughed again. That's what they've been following. What you see your perception of Patty sporting event. Get this shoot. Wasn't the outside the lions Kate Fagan college football, the chaos on and off the field is today's big story from studios z tonight, the thirteen member college football selection committee will reveal their assessment of what's been happening between the lines Michigan. Al breads Georgia and bringing us one step closer to our football. Final four in the news surrounding the gain the college coaching carousel big money for signing big-money for leaving body between oh out at Louisville taking fourteen point one million with him less miles in Lawrence, Kansas and former Texas coach Mack Brown. Welcome back today as North Carolina's coach here, he is at today's press conference in Chapel Hill, you start asking yourself why coach again, maybe done enough and you start looking at being out a few years, and you really miss the players are common purposes for them to have a great experience here for them to learn to be better people when they get out of here and. We want him to win. I've tried that both ways and winnings. A lot more fun than that other stuff. It's it's not even close. It's not even the same ballpark. Here to deconstruct everything college football is Paul finebaum. Host of the Paul finebaum show. Paul. Let's start here with the news out of North Carolina. What was your reaction? Do you NC's rehiring of Mack Brown? Kate. I thought this was a phenomenal higher for a number of reasons. It was outside the box and people say, well, what do you mean? Mack Brown sixty seven years old. He's already been there before. But in my mind, it it really showed some some creativity by getting someone who's very comfortable with the fan base. He he was there a number of years ago. He has great relationships with high school coaches, and he also has experienced Mack Brown is sixty seven, but so is Nick Sabin. And he's only the best coach maybe of all time. What I think MAC is going to do is bring in younger assistance, especially at the coordinator position and be somewhat of a CEO. That's what he was at Texas. And I think he'll do a really interesting job here. And I believe he he will he will improve this program which has suffered so much off the field with the NC double A shoes in Larry fedora, constantly putting his foot in his mouth. All right. Let's put a pin in the college coaching carousel and just talk about the other news that will be coming out tonight. What are you into the college football committee deciding about who's in the? Top four. Yeah. I think what we'll see is pretty predictable at the top Alabama. Clemson and then Notre Dame the number four spot will likely go to Georgia, but that will be temporary because Georgia plays Alabama. The real action tonight is at five and six the committee will likely put Oklahoma at five Ohio State at six we'll that hold up next week is really the issue there couple of things at stake here. Oh, Oklahoma has a narrow loss to Texas by three points. Ohio State lost by twenty nine to Purdue. And that's really what's hurting them. The plus for the buckeyes, however, Kate is that impressive win over Michigan on Saturday that very few people saw maybe a few people thought they could win the game at the horseshoe. Nobody thought they could blow out Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan wolverines it was simply one of the great performances of the twenty eighteen season. All right back to this coaching carousel and the money flying a lot of times out the door at these athletic departments. We saw Patrizia walkaway with an absurd amount of money fourteen million dollars. Why does it seem that coaching buyouts have been more and more expensive? What is this trend? I don't know the answer to that. Because I can't explain why athletic directors give coaches who really have no market value. These type of these type of back ends Ed ores, you're on who frankly nobody wanted. He didn't get a single head coaching offer a couple of years ago when he was elevated to replace less miles had a ten or twelve million dollar buyout on the back end. You'd mentioned portray Gus malzahn. Let's talk about him for a second a year ago after a good season. And he has not had that many even though he played for the championship in his first year. He ended up threatening to go to the university of Arkansas a fairly new president gave him a seven year forty nine million dollar deal with a thirty two million dollar buyout and a brain athletic director or president would have said, you know, what go I don't really care. But the problem nowadays, he's athletic directors have very little spine. They reacted Twitter. They react to show social media. They don't wanna. Oh, look bad. They don't want to get stuck in a situation like a year ago where Tennessee's athletic director conducted a nationwide. Search and ended up getting fired before he could make the higher. So that's the reason it's it's unexplainable. And it's also free money. It's not like, they're really accountable. It's not like a family business Kate where they have to account for it at the end of the day. It's like spending the government's money school money, and they don't really care right in a lot of times, it can be the government's money. How do these huge payouts? Like, some of the ones that you mentioned upwards of twenty million dollars that someone can be offered for a buyout. How does that actually affect the school going forward? Well, it does affect it. Because let's go back to the Auburn scenario had not been for the thirty two million dollar buyout. I believe Gus malzahn at Auburn would have been fired this year, but the school can't afford it it thinks that's so bad yesterday with boosters making phone calls and having secret meetings that Bob stoops had to issue a statement last night that I am not going to Auburn. I have not been contacted. Nobody even had heard his name before the day. Began. That's how crazy things have gotten a, but they they will keep a bad coach there. And they'll also the school will end up paying someone off less miles had a big bile to couple years ago. They finally negotiated a down, and he went to Kansas, but it puts a tremendous burden on the school and for the life life of me. I have no idea why these ethnic directors do it. All right. Paul finebaum. Thank you for your time today. Thank you. The look people in the left side. Touchdown jacksonville. Got to push it each other right now. Real. But to throw this one out later for. Later for Bill. Punch punch. It look like. Was on the field for the point of my brother. My brother. The NFL at the three quarter poll that of course, was the scene this past Sunday in buffalo resulting in a one game suspension for Jags star running back Leonard fournette, but there's plenty of other stories bouncing around the gridiron. We got the Texans winning their eighth straight in the latest just days after the death of owner and founder, Bob McNair, the Panthers. Eric Reed who has protested racial injustice by kneeling during the national anthem city. Feels NFL has been targeting him for additional drug tests. Here's a tweet from the Charlotte. Observer's Panthers beat reporter Eric Reed was randomly selected by the NFL to take drug tests today, he told me it's a sixth drug tests and signing with the Panthers on September twenty seven fifth random this is supposed to be a random system. He said it doesn't feel very random and the spiciest for last Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield not a fan of former Browns head coach hue Jackson who was fired by Cleveland midseason who then took a job with the rival Bengals. Here was Mayfield after the Browns win over the Bengals. Didn't feel like talking lift Cleveland goes down and Cincinnati somebody that was in our locker mask and for us to play for him. And then goes do different team. We play twice a year. We are now joined by the undefeated senior NFL writer Jason read. Jason let's start with Leonard fournette, we just saw footage of that fight. What was your reaction to the fight into the NFL's response? Well, I wasn't surprised by what for net did the Jaguars mired in a horrible slump. Right now. They can't win a football game. They fired their offensive coordinator they've bench their quarterback. So you look at it. There's a lot of frustration there. And when you see that type of frustration. It's not shocking that this something like this would happen. They also lead the league with twenty two personal fouls. It's just a mess of a situation there right now. And this is something that came of it and also real quickly, our colleague, Adam Schefter reporting that he will appeal the suspension if appeal is not successful he'll serve at this weekend. Good news there with Adam Schefter because it seems unlikely that a one game suspension would be overturned when you see that footage right there. But. Are let's turn our eyes to Ohio with all of the drama coming outta this weekend. What have you heard about the relationship between Hugh Jackson, former Browns coach and his former players well talking to people in the browser organization. I know what one of the things we'll tell you about Hugh is he was very smart guy. But he gets involved in everything. And he has rubbed a lot of players the wrong way. There's there's been stuff coming out that the team really likes Greg Williams that he's he's the more disciplined on a Greg Williams. And that Hugh Jackson, quite frankly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And a lot of people think that he was all about Hugh. I'm not saying that I agree with that necessarily. But that's the feeling. So when you saw that interaction Kate would Baker Mayfield. It wasn't shocking. And then you hear what Baker Mayfield said after that. They do look at Hugh is a guy who okay, you weren't all about us when you were here. Whether that's fair or not now, we'll say this Baker Mayfield making this comment about he went to work for a team that plays us twice a year. Hugh Jackson was fired. Let's not forget that. There's been speculation that Jackson could be in line for the Bengals top job. How do you think that all of this world of conversation around his style as a coach might affect that going forward? We'll K clearly this is not the thing that helps you when you're up for another potential job. Also, what doesn't help us that coming into this year. Hugh had one victory in two season. Cleveland, I think for the Bengals fan base. It'll be a very hard sell after Marvin Jackson who I think is a very good football. Coach let's face it. He did not have success in the playoffs in a very long run there. Now, you're potentially going to follow up Marvin Jackson with a guy who into this year with a winless season and a one in fifteen season. I think it's a very difficult sell to a fan base. All right. Read air greeted said he saw this at the top of the show that he's been quote, unquote, randomly drug tested six times this year five times really because one was going to mandatory the beginning of the year is this happening with other players. Or is this read situation actually specific to him as he suggests? Okay. Under the under the testing policy. It is supposed to be random. I can't say that the union is looking into this. And you would think that they would look into it now because whether or not Eric Reid is actually right in that. He's intimating that he's being targeted the reality. The reality of the situation is it does seem at least somewhat questionable this many times for a random system. So the union is looking into it. They'll if they find something that they believe is a problem. Clearly, they'll bring it up to the league. But I do understand from Eric Reed's perspective. Wyatt doesn't feel quite very random right now. All right. Jason read. Thanks for joining us today. Coming up next very curious move by major league baseball. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent lightning storm here to describe the event a TV tray. I was watching football and holding a plate of Meatloaf wind Cup. Bam a bolt of lightning slams into the apartment blowing out the TV and surround sound anything. You could have done to help, ma'am. I'm a foldable table. Not an electrician you were TV. Trae can't help you in a lightning storm. But the co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Go to Geico dot com to see how affordable renter's insurance can be. In Mississippi today votes are being cast in the special Senate runoff election between the incumbent Republican Cindy, Hyde Smith and her challenger democrat, Mike Espy. So what does this have to do with sports? It was earlier this month when Hyde Smith's campaign fell under a cloud of controversy after the candidate made a comment about attending a public hanging. If invited a comment caught on video video which soon after went viral. So again, what does this have to do with sports well over this past holiday weekend? It was reported that major league baseball was one of the many donors that contributed to the Hyde. Smith campaign gifting the maximum five thousand dollars after public outcry regarding the controversial campaign, just as many other corporations had done MLB has requested a full return of those contributions now here to give us more perspective on the stories ESPN MLB insider BUSTER only BUSTER, honestly, when I first read this. Port. I was surprised just because I didn't even know that major league baseball or any sports organization was making political donations really of any kind. So how common is it for a major sports league? In this case, major league baseball to be making these kinds of donations gate is very commonplace. In fact, in the most recent election cycle, major league baseball donated to over one hundred candidates mostly incumbents both sides of the aisle like a lot of businesses. They are trying to sway legislative agenda. Okay. So four major league baseball. If it's not specific to certain candidates, and it seems like it's it's sweeping donations. What exactly are they hoping to get out of pouring money into congress? Baseball has an antitrust exemption that it would love to maintain. You've seen a lot of the ballpark's used in major league baseball are built with public funds. They're very interested in the labor laws. You've seen the controversy in recent years about how minor league players make. Less than minimum wage, and they're looking possibly to form a union earn more money major league baseball would like the status quo. So they have a lot of different issues where they've constantly pushed back, for example about fifteen years ago, you remember congress got involved in baseball with the PD issue. All always believed. The Mitchell report was generated by baseball in order to satisfy congress. Why do you think this is something and it's in this specific case about baseball. But I think the same could probably be said for NBA fans or NFL fans. Not understanding what the league is doing. Why do you think fans are so unaware of this particular side of the game? It must be because folks like me have not done a good job reporting on this. But this is something that has been going on for a long time. It was just two years ago. The major league baseball announced that they opened an office in Washington to help with their lobbying of congress. What was the reaction inside the baseball community to this story? Or maybe the question is more like the media responding. This story in this way. Well, within baseball, I can tell you this. There was a lot of anger and frustration because there's a feeling that this particular donation, given the context was not vetted in the last forty eight hours. Major league baseball has been looking into that coming up with a different system as opposed to just giving autonomy to lobbyists that worked for them. The most interesting player reaction that I saw was actually from Adam Jones, the former center field of the Orioles who's African American. He referenced his donor event that major league baseball contributed in. And he said, I wonder why I wasn't invited. What types of things, and you mentioned a few of them when it comes to stadiums. And when it comes to the anti-trust laws, but for the layman baseball fan, what types of things do you think that this lobbying effort has actually influenced when it comes to their game? Look, I think the the case the minor league players is a classic example that HBO real sports did a a great piece on it on how major league baseball has worked hard to. To hold down wages four minor league players because from a business perspective baseball wants to keep that the payments of those players is lowest possible to make profits for the minor league affiliates. And that wouldn't happen if minor league players, of course, are traveling all during the course of summer were actually making minimum wage, and maybe some of the donations that they've made have influenced this major league baseball part of the choices that they make in terms of who they donate to is the congress persons who are people who they believe really like baseball. And and we'll favor baseball BUSTER only. Thank you so much for joining us today. Coming up the world away from the court for one king. Lebron James that's next. Tonight. We have the twentieth annual ACC big ten challenge. Ninety three Michigan state taken on the cardinals at seven thirty eastern than it. Cihan Williamson RJ Barrett and the number three Duke squaring off against Indiana at Cameron indoor here on ESPN and the app. Sportscenter at six pm with sage in heaven, the three scenarios that would cause pay us for the college football playoff many, plus the lessons. Duke learned up losing tickets to last me in a preview of the nuggets taking on the Braun and the Lakers. Sportscenter six eastern after PTI. The sports world knows so much about LeBron James we followed his every point every game every decision, and perhaps more than any other athlete. The world has been curious about his moves away from the court his effort to build a business around his game. A new eight part series on ESPN, plus more than an athlete documents the journey of LeBron James in his friends, turn business partners. Randy Mems, Rich, Paul and maverick Carter. Here's an excerpt from episode three which became available this morning on ESPN. Plus it became clear to me how big Brown was freshman year. He maverick won the state championship together. And these kids Kim like running around a hotel talking about King, James. I'm finally just thought one of these kids like who is this King James you guys. And you're like, you don't know King James LeBron James, I checked in I go this room. The craziest thing is going on downstairs people running around your calling you King James, and he laughed like. Yeah. That's what they've been calling. And I'm like at that point. I realized like this is a real thing. Basically brought us all together one day. It was like really feel like we can do something special as a team in running my business, and you guys kind of managing me. We were kind of blowing back for a minute. But were like, yeah, we can and keep in mind like, none of us had experienced. So we like we can without really knowing if we could. With the first pick in the two thousand and three NBA draft the Cleveland Cavaliers select LeBron James. On the Bronwyn pro my life changed that day because became a row. Joe? I mean, it went from a pipe dream to with the first round pick Cleveland takes the Brian James to rainy Mems you now have a real job, and you have responsibilities to this kid. So yeah, it changed instantly. What do you do about all the people surrounding him? He's got quite an entourage for an eighteen year old. How do you make that goal from an entourage to one guy? Now being a member of your team. What assault according of what he does on the floor. Lebron is you take the court for your first game. How are your nerves tonight? Gallow my stomach right now. But you don't want to jump balls start up. I'll be ready to play. Career. We had an agent at the time who had people in place that were doing things that we were just kind of assisting them anything Braun obviously began to make money, but none of us had anything. We got a little routine going. I was there everyday at the practices. You know with him every day mave is learning at Nike and riches learning at CA. We're all in school. We were grooming ourselves to be the LeBron's of what we do. Yo you got the wrong number, sir. Does he know? In the process of signing with Nike going into one of his first meetings. Take me to the side and said, what questions should I ask in this meeting to stay focused on it? Brown was one of the first athletes, and I've worked with was committed to impel he begin to talk about how could he incorporate his guys into corporate America? So I took them on as enters those guys really picked it up fairly quick do gills huge, very functions. Vigils time you want mine faulty times all times. We have played different coach. I don't want to know what time right now, we call people at home like oh, sleep. Randy's job was really kinda unique. Randy was the glue that kept the system together early on. You can watch episodes one two in three of more than an athlete only on ESPN plus in the ESPN app. Now, you can subscribe that'll do for outside the lines today on Fagin NFL live with Wendi. Nix is next.

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Inching Closer

Outside the Lines

22:56 min | 1 year ago

Inching Closer

"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash welcoming to outside the lines on jason fitz. Today did a front office without a g._m. Mortgaged org is the texans future and which n._f._l. Teams are better in love with but first a developing story out of dallas where another day closer to the cowboys starting their season against the the giants but the big contract news out of dallas. This morning wasn't what most people expected right tackle. Leo collins signed to a megadeal that ensures. He's going to stay with the cowboys for the the next six years and it's been reported the deal will make him a top five paid right tackle in the n._f._l. Now we all know we can't talk cowboys and contracts without saying the words zeke elliott i'm. I'm pretty sure that's a law now so it's being reported zeke has left kabo and is headed to dallas to give us the latest in the zeke saga were joined by e._s._p._n.'s ed werder cowboys headquartered in frisco texas so ed. What's the latest with ezekiel. Elliott will jason. I got a text a short time time ago from a source who told me quote this is not done. They're serious work still remaining now. Jason garrett and his coaching staff are involved in their game planning meetings for sunday's home home opener against the giants. If elliot is signed before tomorrow's practice that means he could be a full participant in all three workout specific to playing the giants and on his weekly radio. Oh show owner jerry jones said of those game planning meetings. We are working with the people that we have out here now and the ones that we know are going to be on the field. That's how we're we're preparing. It'll be great will be and would be great. He said if before a short period of time passes that zeke would be in that group but again a source with direct knowledge of the negotiations actions between the cowboys and elliott did tell me today that the sides are now working well together but again said there is serious work remaining and another source believes jason that agreement is imminent that person characterized negotiations by saying. I think this happens today or tomorrow virtually no chance in my mind. It doesn't get done this week. Well we heard that conversations intensified saturday than sort of broke down on sunday. Why is this such a teeter totter in these talks. Well you know in in the n._f._l. Deals of this magnitude jason. It's it's not usually the overall contract value that the issue it's in all the fine details and and in the case like this it would be about you know the guaranteed money not only the amount but how it's vested what guarantees that money and by what date going forward the cowboys would be maintained some flexibility and quite honestly another issue given the fact that ezekiel elliott has been suspended before and that as recently as this off off season he was up in new york meeting with commissioner roger goodell about another potential disciplinary matter is the forfeiture language as pertains to guaranteed money. Should there be another issue. Issue regarding misconduct off the field obviously last week jalen smith linebacker gets a megadeal today as we said earlier collins gets a megadeal. There's only so much money to go around around so how do these contracts affect dak prescott with his well talking to jerry and stephen throughout the process beginning thing in training camp. They made a point of saying you know we've got a salary cap management plan in place and so they've made certain allocations wins expectations are all projections at this point as to what they're going to be paying certain players jerry jones after he signed jalen smith said look it's more important than it's ever been given the talent that we have and the young players who are coming up on contracts that we wanna keep that we do our best job ever of negotiating these contracts and managing this cap so while they might say that there's less money now you know for ezekiel elliott dak prescott amari cooper the three players that they really wanted signed before the season season began. The fact of the matter is they've already made allocations and signing. One player is not going to impede their ability to sign their quarterback their best receiver starting running back. Eh what's the significance of the fact that so many of these negotiations with jalen smith collins dak. All of these negotiations have been so quiet compared to the negotiations with z well the cowboys have done a magnificent job of you know creating a lot of attention on one player and we've all been distracted by that that player being zeke elliott because he's the only one is not here and he's the only one that had assigned to get on the field on sunday. Everybody else was ready to play and dak prescott. I expect he's going to be paid a a significant sum of money as it relates to quarterbacks. They said they're willing to pay him in the top five <hes> and so whether that deal gets done i think remains to be seen there is the the possibility that dak prescott is gonna play out the season on his rookie contract now that there's a gamble he's taking there to make just two million dollars this year when he could get you know forty fifty fifty sixty million dollars guaranteed i mean if he doesn't play well if the team doesn't perform if he gets injured all of that could affect negotiations going forward so there would be a significant get risk that he would be accepting but i'm telling you make so much money off the field that the two million dollars he makes on his cowboy salary is something he's easily able to balance out with with his opportunities as cowboy's quarterback off the field in regards to zeke and being able to come in and contribute. I know you said earlier. They expect to be quick and easy for him but kelly moore is a new offensive coordinator. What's the impact of a new offense on a player. That hasn't been around for training camp. He was here for all of the off season workout program in the minicamps. My understanding based on conversations with members of the coaching staff is they've provided elliott film anna playbook so he's been able to keep mentally aware of what's going on obviously been in kabul. He's been apparently working out with marshall faulk. A hall of fame running back and their expectation is based on the fact that he returned after a six game suspension in two thousand seventeen and was instantly successful unable to play right away is that this will be very short transition and if if he comes in sometime in the next forty eight hours they'll be able to get something out of him in the game on sunday. That's the latest directly from dallas as always we appreciate your insight. Thanks for joining us my friend. You bet the cowboys don't get to have all of the phone when it comes through dramatic n._f._l. Storylines the texans who fired general manager brian gained back in june made some major trades this weekend that have some people scratching their heads remembered today. Cloudy went to the seahawks after a contentious summer of franchise tag negotiations and then when the team traded two first round picks and a second rounder to the dolphins for star left tackle army tunsil and wide receiver kenny stills texas head coach bill o'brien and defended the move. These moves were part of a plan something that was well thought out. It's been a lot of time on it and tried to execute the plan to help us break it all down. We're joined by aaron wilson houston chronicle aaron. Thanks for the time. Bill brian just said there's a plan. What was your reaction when you first heard about these trades right when i first learned the trades. I thought that this was something that bill o'brien had one too aggressively they accomplish and it carried out his plan when you look at it today and cloudy whatever reason bill o'brien did not want him here. There were problems at the beginning of his career career with work ethic durability. I thought he erased those concerns but not to the bill ryan and not to the point where they would value them enough to pay him the way he wanted to be. You paid in that khalil mack aaron donald demarcus lawrence frank clark kind of elite category so they had this major disconnect on a contract extension in the talks hawks went nowhere and then they decided to just basically unload him. I thought they gave up a lotta draft capital. I think it's a win right now. Approach and it's is kind of what you would expect when you have a coach. That's trying to win right now versus. When you have a general manager they take more of a pragmatic big picture planning signing two three four years down the road in terms of cap management future draft picks what those draft class for like yes. They did analysis no. He doesn't do it all by himself. If he has a team he has jack. Easterby has chris olsen. He has james lipford and he has met bazargan to help him with these things. It's not like that's all he does is work doc trades but he's heavily involved and he has all the authority has as much authorities anyone the n._f._l. Short of bill check and this is kind of you know the move what they've done and this has been going on for months where they have been aggressive and are trying to make changes you know a lot of people say they gave up too much coach for the laremy tunsil kenny stills trade and then get enough back for jadeveon clowney. I'd say it's a fair assessment but if it works on the field and learn console finally you have that elite left tackle to protect the shawn watson to them. It will be worth it and their opinion is what matters in this they're not concerned earn about outside perception or anything like that there essentially just looking inward and staying focused and trying to get ready for the saints game but they have a lot of moving parts and they've got. You know these guys ready for that game. Well air new said he's got several people bill o'brien head coach to help him but who's who's supposed to hold them accountable like a typical g._m. Would to make sure he's not leveraging the future of the organization right. I mean he talks the owner kalmyk near a callous signs off and all of these things but in terms of the usual checks and balances is when you have that push pull no you don't have that. You have obviously people that are like it's a dictatorship. I mean people can disagree with him but ultimately he has the final final say so it's just like any other place where one person has final say one person doesn't he has that authority so but yeah if there's something major of course she asked run it by cal mcnair the son of the late bob mcnair and their chairman and chief operating officer when you look at the way it works yeah bill o'brien they're giving him all the trust and they're saying bill you run. It and we trust you to do it. Obviously all work out or the pressure on him. Intensifies defies. We've been through two general managers ric smith brian gain now. Essentially you operate as a facto general manager without that title aaron. Thank you so much from the inside from houston. We appreciate your time next. Rejoin us. Thanks for having me. It's an interesting situation for the texans to be in because frankly the texans not only signed laremy tunsil not only tracfone but they had not yet signed him coming up next. 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Chris middleton hit a pair of free throws with two point one seconds remaining overtime to secure the forty fifth consecutive win for the u._s. In world cup and olympic play turkey had a chance to ice the game but missed four free throws with nine seconds left in the extra period. Jason tatum sent the game into overtime hitting two or three free throws after getting fouled on a three point attempt with one tenth of a second left in regulation. He sprained his left ankle at the very end of the game had to be helped off the court next up for the u._s. Japan on thursday remember better to be lucky than good. Jamaica's famed reggae girls are on strike three months after becoming the first caribbean team to participate anticipate in the women's world cup. The jamaicans women's national soccer team is on strike claiming they have not been paid. Midfielder codija shaw said via instagram. The strike is not about the money. It's quote about change in the way. Women's football is viewed. Also purdue will open its new tyler gate at ross ade stadium prior to this saturday's game against vanderbilt tyler. You may remember the beloved produce superfan who gained national final attention for his devotion to the team during his battle with a rare form of bone cancer. He was even named a team captain for the ohio state game. Last season trent died in january from the aziz the one hundred n._f._l. Season finally gets underway thursday night with the divisional match up between the packers and bears its it's soldier field the failings ear favorite team or a distant memory now and all of the realism you had back in january about how good your team really is has been washed away by the hope created needed from free agency draft and even training camp. Luckily for us the gambling experts. Don't see the league or your favorite team through fan glasses. So are the browns for real real. Are the dolphins going to take. Who is the a._f._c. favorite. Let's get a breakdown from a professional david purdham writer for e._s._p._n. Chalk joined in his david. Thanks for the time with week one upon us for the n._f._l. And given how little preseason action starters actually got how how actual professionals handle week one. It's difficult everybody is trying to figure out the market. <hes> the sports books overall when september have done tremendously it is their most profitable month of the regular football season as everybody just tries to figure out exactly how good or bad these teams are so. How do you evaluate new new coaches like matt leflore and green bay that we have no proof of concept with again. It's tough. It's not easy. The odds makers are looking got it <hes> trying to do their best to ave look at aaron. Rodgers still have him in the fold. The packers are probably a second tier third-tier favorite to win the super bowl <hes>. Everybody's just try and kind of playing a guessing game right now. Usually the boot makers have had the advantage in september so early early. Betting action typically comes from fans that are just casual. We'll better as we get closer to the season. It becomes more professionally based. So when do those scales tend to tip the pub- budding public always overwhelms the amount of money wagered by the professional bettors they make up probably five ten percent at max of the total <unk> handle about in <hes> but when the odds start took to tighten up later in the season and that happens in november december <hes> you start seeing the sports books winning percentage they just go down <hes> you start seeing more sharp money in the markets at that time and less public and that may be because <hes> the public right out of money in the first two months so oh. I think it's interesting <hes> on the article you have on e._s._p._n. Dot com you mentioned the bears the most bets place to win the super bowl but the chiefs had the most money but what does that mean well it means the larger bets are on the chiefs. Larger bets are on the chiefs and the patriots at most books. Those are the two top favorites you throw the saints in that top tier as well whenever you have teams with low odds six two one five to one like the chiefs and the patriots you're going to attract your larger bets and a larger bets at this zayn get into the five figure range a ten thousand dollar bed or so some of the longer odds teams <hes>. You usually get smaller pets now. The browns owns <hes> on the other hand have really seen overflow of money interest on there. They had ten beds but thousand dollars or more at m._g._m. Sports books in nevada including an eight thousand dollar bet bet their odds dropped from twenty two one two eight two one to win the super bowl so if you have a public darling or a public bathing favorite that may be the browns right now and the article states bookmakers will get killed. If the browns win the super bowl explain why well they have a lot of liability again when a team starts off off it's twenty two to one and you start taking several vets that size that adds up pretty quickly now the books are going to have a whole season to mitigate that liability in work their odd so they can attract on other teams <hes> but right now there is a serious liability in fact the new jersey sports book points bet so this is the largest liability hi ability. They faced on any teams and started offering last year jersey. So what do you take away from the fact that right now. There haven't been many bets placed on the rams. That was a little surprising to me. I mean those everybody is back for that team a team that made the super bowl one at the new orleans <hes> in the n._f._c. z. championship game you figure that the talent is still there and they would have attracted some money but they just haven't <hes> one bookmaker. Vata says he can't buy that on on the rams no matter what really does you've seen their odds drop back to fifteen to one a team that was in the super bowl last year is back in the back behind the browns behind the bears flew surprising listen to me so what particular prop stand out to you going into week one the b._p.'s been allowed generate a lot of interest interesting year <hes>. It's one of the first years nevada sports books have offered the second or third year <hes> and the bears quarterback mitchell trubisky actually got a lot of in early interest interest. He opened up at fifty to one at caesars sportsbook. He got all the way down to around. Fifteen twenty two watt at some places twenty also happens to be the same around. Is tom brady so hugh mitchell trubisky and tom brady the same odds that sound a little weird. That's the doubt to me david. Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate you. We all get ready for week. Run coming up one of the best college football minds of e._s._p._n. Said something. I absolutely disagree with it. You'll hear it. We're going to debut a new segment. We'll tell you what's wrong with the next. Your home is important. That's why geico helps make it easy to save on condo insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you took minimalism yeah melissa too far because there's only one chair in your entire condo in your only entertainment is one card not even a deck of cards but a single cart and all your guests have to share one plate and one fork but you're convinced winced less stuff means more freedom. 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App when they take on portugal the lions field in saint paul minnesota eight eastern five for civic for all your soccer needs checkout e._s._p._n. Is p n._f._c. on e._s._p._n. Plus every day. Paul finebaum was on. I take on monday in discussing the potential for notre dame football and he said something even is a joke that is significant. I think they could be ten into but they are not going back to the plasma and frankly they should never be allowed back to the playoffs after their embarrassing loss last year the clemes and they should be given a five year probation. We talked to paul this morning on winco lingo and everyone understands what he said is largely ingests regarding notre dame but it's important to clarify this. The college football playoff committee has one job and one the job only to pick the four best teams every year to make the playoffs. I've sat in the committee's room for a mock exercise to experience what this is like and believe me. 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Week 12 Breakdown

"Trey broS. Ferguson is proud to be a part of what you do with over one thousand one stop shop US counter. Locations expert associates and an unmatched selection of the go-to and hard to find OEM repair products, you need visit Ferguson dot com and find a counter location near you. On this Monday afternoon. The Jaguars offensive coordinator, Daniel Hackett Doug Marrone, says I have to do what I think is best for this football team. The chargers announced that running back. Melvin Gordon did indeed suffer an MC L sprain in his right knee on Sunday. His status apparently evaluated week to week. Hello there. We're glad to have you with us as we begin the post thanksgiving portion of the NFL season. Tim Hasselbeck Ryan Clark, Adam Schefter. I'm Wendy next. We will start with what happened over the weekend at one day once for Philip rivers who completed twenty eight and twenty nine passes, including one thousand five hundred row is ninety six point six completion rate the highest single game rate in NFL history. Tom Brady had a pair of touchdown passes and a win over the jets after he had thrown just one in his three prior games with Pittsburgh losing New England takes over the number two seed in the AFC Cleveland cooked down Pinson Atty behind four touchdown passes. From number one pick Baker Mayfield the Browns in their twenty-five game road losing streak, which was just one game shy of the week record and the Seahawks won their second straight by three point since two thousand fifteen Seattle has played an NFL high nineteen games with a final tour margin has been by three points or fewer. And then there's the Packers quite hoax took. Hit with a loss to the Vikings. Green Bay is lost eight straight on the road there. Long extremes since losing nine in a row on the road in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight and seventy nine so it's there we'll pick up overreaction Monday. And here's what we'll start with Aaron Rodgers done after just one Super Bowl, Adam Schefter overreaction or no windy. He just signed a five-year extension. Thirty four thirty five years old. The Packers didn't sign them to that rich extension without the belief that he couldn't get them back there. Oh, look this team has disappointed. They've lost each street road games, which is the longest road losing streak since nineteen seventy eight and seventy nine when David why I truly white David wide. I was the Packers quarterback that tells you how long it's been since his team has lost so many games in a row on the road. But to think that Aaron Rodgers never is gonna wanna shoot a one. I mean that might be. But that's our imagine. Well, this is an overreaction for me in the reason that you think this team is disappointing. Adam is because they have Aaron Rodgers. And when you. I've ever Rogers. You think it doesn't matter who else is around you. It doesn't matter that you decimated in the secondary. Or that you don't have a lot of weapons on the outside or can't generate a run game. Because we think you have Aaron Rodgers you shouldn't lose games like this with someone that talented. Do you know who won the Super Bowl year before every Rogers and the Green Bay Packers? It was the New Orleans Saints. And it was drew Brees. And they went through a slump in a time in his career that team wasn't playing at a high level and look at the New Orleans Saints know and look at what age drew Brees is doing and maybe playing his best ball. So to say the Aaron Rodgers won't continue to be one of the top quarterbacks. And that this team can't turn turn it around and get back to Super Bowl is an overreact two first round draft picks this year. So they're already looking to the future. They get the extra one from the dress last. It's an overreaction from really. I mean. So much can change in five hundred if we were to go back and look at twenty thirteen season, right which teams were good. And who I mean, it's this big difference. Yeah. So I mean that's longer than the average career span the running back or a tight end. We've never heard of before. I mean, I just I think that so much change within a single season two years for years for short five years as turn ity in the NFL there there. There was a day when we declared Tom Brady's career slowing down or almost over. And we see how that worked out. I will ask you this though, is it realistic to think the Packers will make the playoffs at this point. I mean, it's a long shot at best. They can do it. It's going to be tough to play flawless football. And you don't lose all your rule games in ear their own six on the road this year. And I mean that's hard to bounce back from it. They have winnable games down the stretch. You actually have to go to the bears play their, and obviously that's the team you're chasing. So you're wondering can you catch? Carolina Panthers team. Can you catch a Seattle Seahawks team or even whoever falls out of the NFC east? I just think is going to be very difficult with the way this team is playing right now to play themselves into the playoffs. You factor in some injuries that we saw last night along that offensive line. Don't know the severity of those. But if they're banged up all along that offensive line, the no they won't. Well, let's take a look at the NFC playoff picture the saints. And Rams, of course, both in very good physician at ten and won the bears are at the top of the north and the Cowboys leave east Minnesota and Washington hold the wildcard spot right now. But that rates could heat up down the stretch, they see hawks and Panthers on the outside looking in. But they're both six and five fairly five and six, but have a very difficult schedule the rest of the way. So here's where we will continue with overreaction Monday. Regardless of what the playoff fixer hoping. New Orleans is in the Super Bowl. Right. I think this is an overreaction. But when you watch them play football right now, it's hard not to think that this is the team to beat the weight in the world is states are playing on both sides of the ball deficiency. Which drew Brees is playing with in the way that show. A Payton is calling plays. Manipulating the game getting the best ups for this very talented off. It's it's hard to see a team beating them. But when you look at the Los Angeles Rams and the chance that they have to host the NFC championship. I think that is where this could get sketchy. Also look at having to play the Sakado bears who's a team that has the great defeats. If the Rams can get the NFC championship versus the seats to not be in New Orleans. And I'm not saying that the saints can't go to Los Angeles and win. I don't think that's a great home field advantage. I'm just saying that if you have to go into New Orleans and try to beat that team. It is almost impossible in that environment to win that game. The Rams over opportunity down the stretch to. Continue winning. They have a game with the bears in prime time to continue winning host playoff games. I think that's the best chance for the NFC. Yeah. Their path is better certainly going through New Orleans. But it's an overreaction for me. Just because I think there are really good teams in the NFC. I mean, just okay, I think the bears because their defense can be so dominant. I think that's a tough team the Minnesota Vikings or really good balance football team. I think when you look at the Rams they obviously have as much firepower as is in one. And so I just think that the competition in the NFC with you're playing in New Orleans or you're playing somewhere else. Think is is tough. It's just one of those years. It's a bad year. One of the best teams in the NFC. Do you think the NFC the NFC's top teams are better than AFC or do you think it's a tougher road on on the AFC the NFC? I think the NFC on a whole I believe in the NFC teams are are the tough. I mean, listen, you go to the top three teams the AFC you're gonna say Kansas City New England. And pittsburgh. Maybe I mean, give me, you know, the saints. The Rams Viking, right? Over those things to me, we're gonna make it a clean sweep again. Not in a restaurant says the saints will be in the Super Bowl. Let it might be. They might be. They are the best hard to say never. Hard to say, but see they Wilby that they're going to beat out the Rams, I mean, we look at the chances to reach the shoe bullets forty nine percent. Okay. Forty nine is one way football laundry. Go, and that's what we're saying. They will be in the seasonal forty nine means they have a good chance to reach the Super Bowl. They play the way they have. I think they will be in the Super Bowl. But again, that's a lot of football. That's left. Some good teams earn their way. He's playoff games. They get going strange. Anything can happen. It was Aaron Rodgers. In fact, he said we just gotta get in. You know, we as difficult as that road is once you get in. You know, what all bets are off? We've seen some crazy things happened. That was the NFC. Here's how things are shaping up in the AFC chiefs run it by last week, but still sit atop at nine and to the patriots win means they are the two season because of the Steelers losing to Denver and Houston leaks doubt as it stands the chargers and the ravens will be AFC's to wildcard spot. This is not the same kind of patriot team we've seen, but that does not mean you should count them out. Here's what we'll stay on overreaction Monday. The patriots run game shaping up to be more important than rob gronkowski, Adam Schefter is that an overreaction. I don't think so Russian because they went in to play the one thing that this team wanted to do was get it's run game going and it did. And if Sony was shows running the football that way and Rick's Burkhead comes back, and he's running the football. And James white is coming out of the backfield. Well, they've been. Playing without gronkowski for a lot of the time. And when it gets cold in December and January they want to run the football effectively. So I don't think it's an overreaction. It's not an overreaction say that the patriots run game is more important gronk is great. But the patriots this year are when they're throwing passes to grunk in the red zone. If completed one of those ten passes, they're still in three. So they've been able to win games without gronk producing if gronk produced will be that much better up with their own games. More important. I'm going to have to go with that's an overreaction, and the reason is the type of attention. They rob gronkowski attracts. When you look at this game yesterday Jamal Adams who was probably the best extra defended. At the New York Jets have was on gronkowski ton in men to men. So now that gives opportunities for Julian element that also gives you an opportunity to run the football because he is a training so much attention, by the way, he's a great blocker. There was a state sportscenter this morning talking about. In with your own hausky. His QBR. Tom Brady's QBR is drew Brees without him is is Andy Dalton. So when you telling me that you say what's important if I could be drew Brees with and I'm Andy dotes without no disrespect to him. I think I want rob gronkowski on the field. There is a considerable difference. Fair point. It's an overreaction for me was grunk changes everything he absolutely changes, everything in terms of how you have to defend him is he's too big for secondary players when they isolate them, and he's too fast and too long for linebackers at aren't used to playing in space and quite honestly, they're run game benefits significantly. You lose to this. Ryan, not only when you remove gronk from the formation, and you take somebody with him. But he just tremendous in line block little move him. He'll lead on stuff. He's actually a good walk around the perimeter some of the perimeter screen stuff that they do rob gronkowski since he's been a patriot. I believe has been these second most. Important member on their roster. And when he's able to go there a completely different team to face. Well, they're certainly better off with rob gronkowski health healthy and on the field. I don't think there's any debating that. Doug Marrone has made an announcement. And there will be a change. He says that it will be Cody Kessler who starts this week. Instead of this is just for Ryan Clark, by the way, like Bortles. So they're making a change at quarterback Ryan face. It did it, and I just take this is just so so so late you took a team that had pieces to be not only a playoff contender. But to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl in you invested in Blake Bortles after you were scared to to to put it on his shoulders last year in the AFC championship. I just don't know what took you so long. So now what you've done is. You've wasted a year you've gotten people fired in the day you had who's the office coordinator. And now you go to Cody Kessler who cannot be your long term answer. This was botched in. The off season. And now you've made this thing last a lot longer than needed to. And you have to move on for Blake Bortles now and go out and find you a quarterback. Can you do that and continue to keep this roster tech this was botched from the beginning? And if you the Jacksonville Jaguars and Tom Coughlin you made a mistake. Listen, there's been some changes today. If you missed it at the top of the show they did choose to part ways with their offensive coordinator, and if annual Hackett so now wholesale changes, and it's interesting because the Jaguars are already projected to be over the salary cap for next year. There's one of two teams that are in that position right now. And they're about six to seven million dollars over the cat. So they're gonna have to make some moves to get under the cap and clearly now one of the moves will be to move on from Blake portal's. Now, they've had other moves in mind, and it's not difficult to recapture that cap space. What again this tells you that this team is going to be making a lot of changes during the season during the off season. And the number one's going to the number one change. Is going to be at the quarterback position. And I think we could start trying to figure out who's going to be Jacksonville's next quarterback who the candidates if the giants move on from Eli manning would he want to go down and finish his career in Jackson. I don't know that he would would they want them. Here's the here's why Ryan's point is is the right point. And there's nothing you can do about it now. But the reality is this Alex Smith case keenum, Kirk cousins, teddy Bridgewater, all of those guys run the move last all of them all of those backs were on the move in Vail. But that's a lot of guys with, you know, starting caliber play that were available that you that you could have had that you that you didn't get involved with in. So now your options. Adam is you're saying you're gonna turn the page who are the candidates not right? Who those guys have teams? There's no question. I have the same. You know, when you talk about when you see when you hear that teams are already over the salary cap for next year. That means what they did was they put all their chips into the middle of the table. Right. They went out and acquired all the people. They thought they needed to win the Super Bowl. And then you keep Blake Bortles. And even though you have all these pieces around him or you think you have all these pieces around him. You don't have the most important piece in honestly, the worst thing that happened to the Jaguars last year was getting to the AFC championship because it made them think they had enough. It made them think that they were just a couple of plays away from it. And then this happens in no, you're stuck having to retooling rebuild. This thing. We say winning cures. All it can also disguise some fatal flaws, and I think perhaps that was the case Jacksonville. So again, Cody Kessler start set to start in week thirteen. Starting the season Owen. Three texans. Turned it around in a major way. They're staring at their eighth straight win tonight. Standing in the way, though it titans team that both the second best scoring defense in the league. Lisa Saulters days in Houston at she has every Monday night. Lisa an interesting situation in the AFC south Houston can hold onto a nice to game cushion with a win. But it's a game. They will also play in honor of the man who brought the league back to Houston. Yeah. One day like you said Houston riding a seven game winning streak but head coach Bill Brian quick to caution. We haven't done anything yet. But if the Texans were to win tonight, it would be the longest win streak in franchise history. This team, of course, born in nineteen ninety nine when Houston businessman Bob McNair, brought the NFL back to the city after the Oilers let the Texans played their inaugural season three years later in two thousand and two like you said Mr. McNair passed away on Friday after a lengthy battle with cancer. So of course, the Texans would like nothing more than to honor him with. A win tonight especially against this opponent once the Houston Oilers now the Tennessee titans. Second year quarterback DeShaun Watson was taking a lot of hits earlier in the season including one that resulted in a collapsed lung broken ribs back in week five. And although he hasn't missed any game time Bill Brian admits they've adjusted the game plan in recent weeks to keep their quarterback. Healthy Watson has averaged twenty three pass attempts over the last four games and his taking just eight sacks compare that with twenty five sacks that he took over their first six games O'Brien said we've got to keep to Shawn Watson out there. Because he's the guy that gives us hope when it makes sense at least in terms of the titans. We saw quarterback Marcus mariota leave the game last week. It was an injury to his throwing arm. What's his status? Yeah. Like you said he left last week's game against the colts late in the first half. Didn't return initially. The concern was that it was a reactivation of the right elbow injury suffered in the season opener that caused him to miss the first meeting between these teams back in week two. But mary. Told us last night that the injury was different this time instead of having numbness in just his right fingertips than hand. Like, he experienced before the numbness went from his right shoulder all the way down through his arm now mariota's said it felt like a dead arm. Believe believe it or not. That was good news because it turned out to just be a stinger and not something more serious. Mariota told us last night that he feels fine now that he was able to practice the last couple of days, and he's having no problems at all gripping the football. It sounded sounded serious to me anyway. But he says he's having no problems at all Wendy, Lisa. There's no question is sounds serious. But certainly good news for the titans, Dan their quarterback some other notes of interest from this game. The titans defensive coordinator dean piece had to miss last week's game due to some medical issues at them. But I believe he's back is that correct? Well, he's with the team. He's with them at their hotel today and the plan is for him to coach the defense, which is good news. Because that was a scary situation last week literally before the game begins at Indianapolis cubicles. He's taking. In by ambulance to local hospital in Indianapolis for observation now, everything checked out. Okay. But at that point in time, basically he did not coach the game. They had to make a ton of adjustments on the fly. Fortunately, he's feeling better. He's feeling okay. And he deemed piece is feeling well enough to coach tonight. So that's good news. That is good news. What would also be good news? Ryan. I think if this titans team could become a bit more consistent. They have been very good at times. We've also seen the contrary to string together in this stretch. They're going to need to play more consistent football. I mean you rise in fall with your quarterback in this league. And in this case is Marcus mariota one. It's his health. You know, we were just talking about it. You heard him just say he had the dead on. It was his shoulder. He was out early on this season in Blaine gabbert had to come on in relief. But when he plays well, so does this team. If you look at the Dallas cowboy game the New England patriot game where you play will not turn over two touchdowns in each game. This Tennessee titans team got rolling. But when he doesn't play well when he can't complete. Passes. Winnie isn't protected as we saw early on in the season against the Baltimore Ravens when they tied his sack record or had eleven sacks. You can't win football games. Keeping more Marcus mariota upright healthy on the field. And giving him opportunities to make plays down. The field is how this team can win. But when he's not out there. And when he's not doing that. That's when he run into trouble look to shine Watson season cut short last year, the same injury Tammy hiding college it came back. And there was some question marks early on 'cause they start. Oh and three and you say, oh, no. Is he gonna be the quarterback we saw before? Now they've won seven in a row. What have you seen from Sean? Watching the hold on the football is long. And I think that that's the key. I heard Lisa talk about the sack numbers which twenty four sacks. And the first six games versus the eight since then or something like that. Look, there's a there's a difference. When your quarterback is is getting hit and talk about him driving the game set a flying because it collapsed lungs will look it's because you're holding onto the football too. Sometimes the quarterbacks fault to just you know, the. Not get rid of the football. Just punt it and move on the last few weeks they've been better at it. Whether it's been, you know, more progression read, so the ball can come out quickly or whether it's you have an isolation, and it's basically picked the match up that you want like you see here. The good news for this. Texans. Offense is that the ball is coming out in rhythm. And on time. You see it gets hit there. But it's not a sack and it's on time in rhythm. You can just be more efficient offensively that weighing quarterbacks gonna stay healthier that way. And so I think that's kind of what Bill O'Brien's alluding to in terms of some maybe some changes they've made authencity watching also been very good outside of the pocket. This year not surprising to six best QBR in the league in that situation. Trae rose, Ferguson is proud to be a part of what you do with over one thousand one stop shop US counter locations expert associates than an unmatched selection of the go-to and hard to find OEM repair products, you need visit Ferguson dot com and find a counter. Location near you. Listen to what the giants did not know what to come when they started this season. I mean, it has just been one thing after another a week continue with overreaction Monday. Here's what hotel Beckham junior had to say about the giants play calling on Sunday. Monaco, the place. I just do what I'm told to do. And and go out there and execute whenever I get opportunity to do some trauma. Try and make the most of it. If I don't have to all I can do is is what I came when I do have an opportunity. So as more of a question for coach, you know, coming in knowing that they struggled in the secondary. Personally. I would I would have loved to take them. But. But it wasn't in our game plan. Well, let's talk about the game plan, shall we say this. The giants game plan is all wrong when I say that Tim do you think it's an overreaction? Yes. It's an overreaction. Honestly. Like, I I'm trying to figure come up with a word to like this is absurd. I mean, it's it's okay to why. They you're not trying to attack the opposing team secondary. Like threw balls down the field. There were -tunities. In fact, they threw one right before the half. They cost them points where they're trying to get him the football, and he lied just kind of under throws it also the coverage dictate. Shouldn't have gone there. You have points the notion that the giants were not attacking the eagles secondary. I I'm I'm trying my best not to call stupid, but stupid. It's absurd. It is. Dip for there. That that the case. So I guess part of for me is I think we're getting to the point without Dell. Where like it just you're getting the point where it's just an IRO where it's like, I just like everything is is just the absurd in terms of ideas. Just being critical of things that one you shouldn't be critical of in two. It's just not even accurate, you know. But this is not an overreaction for me. He was right. They should have did something different like give the ball to saquon Barkley more. It wasn't about what dill Beckham. Julia was able to do saquon Barkley was out here. Given dudes the business. I mean, like he slashing kidding big place. If you want to do something different in the second half give it to him more than five times. It wasn't about trying to attack them down. The feel is that you have one of the most explosive players in the league period, not just at his position. But period, this guy needs to touch the ball more. And when you get it going the way. Going in the first half you continue to feed him. This is why you go get him second. This is our opportunity to validate drafting him number two and not getting one of these quarterbacks. He is that special, but he can't be special in less. You give him the ball. It's Tim's point about dill. He did really will into he stopped doing. Well. And what I mean by that. He kept saying, you know, what I don't call please. I just have to execute. When I'm giving opportunities. That's a coaching thing. And then he got into his personal feelings don't get into your personal feelings talk about those things with the team with your coaches as a hey coach, maybe we could attack this. Maybe we can try this. This is not for the media when you already having a tough time as a team keep those things in but that showed L Beckham. No. I mean, that's what we have come to. This is kind of become him this year. But when you look at the first four years it was kind of outburst on the sideline things dealing with him. So he business seat in which now all of a sudden he's coming out in airing these grievances with the coaches, and it just doesn't make anything better, Adam Schefter. I think it's an overreaction in the sense that he shouldn't be reacting in that sense in any way. You should not be calling out the game plan, the coaches that's not his job. His job is to go out there and play. Well, there's no need to say anything that's going to be an indictment of the coaching staff. Even if you think it, and there are plenty of players thinking about their coaches, you shouldn't say because when you say it, especially in that market. Now, the New York tabloids have fodder all week long. I mean, even rash evening. Jalen Ramsey, who were very honest about most quarterbacks lied about his and sitting off season, even hinman even. Nice Beckham junior's been targeted a hundred and fifty one hundred fifteen times this year. Fifteen one fifteen he's been targeted them. He was targeted nine times. Now game against the eagles. They are trying to get him football all of the time. So to come and say that stuff one you shouldn't say to your point on to expand even accurate like the end of the year. And we look back at guys in terms of targets. He will be within the top seven targets, you know, in terms of wide receivers. I what else. What else are you looking for? I I don't know. What else anybody can do for you? Okay. It doesn't look good. He doesn't sound good. And it doesn't help. So, you know, where's harm don't press in case anything? Nice to say don't say, Adam Schefter. That's exactly right Farren. So glad we don't really live in that world. It'd be in trouble, right? The division and I'll say this reaction Monday. Because I think it's certainly is the I am talking about the NFC. Somebody's gotta win. The eagles will win the NFC gentleman. Is this overreaction? I think it's a no reaction because I can't believe I'm going to say this. I really like what the Dallas Cowboys door right now. I believe they're playing really good defense. Scott Linda Hannah, Jason Garrett have decided that they're going to start an end with Zeke, Elliot and we've gotten to see what Dak Prescott can look like with the true number one in Amari Cooper. And you see some of the routes. He's running we've got to see some of the big place against the Washington Redskins. And I think that right now this division is for the Dallas Cowboys to lose. And I believe if they continue with the same game plan, which I do believe that Jason Garre is smart enough to do that the Dallas Cowboys will take this division and not the Philadelphia. What a difference a few weeks makes over the other group Ryan on this. I mean, I just I think when you when you. You look at this division. If you say, okay. Well, yeah. The jumbled in here pretty close. But who's the team like I'm seeing them improve at this point in the season that I feel like over these next five weeks. They're going to play better. I agree with that. I think it would be Dallas. I'm gonna look at Dallas like their offense is coming alive there defensively in very good when you'll get Philadelphia. It seems like each and every week it somebody else injured on the defensive side of the ball offensively. You know, they may be have it figured out at running back, but they've been playing a different combination of backs. What seems like the whole season. You know, I think they're trying to find their way with their receivers and how they all fit together. So yeah, I just don't see this ascending team in Philadelphia. Should this? The eagles play the Redskins one week from tonight on Monday night football. They win that game. They put the Dallas Cowboys the next week if they win that game to ifs air in first place. Okay. And they're coming off a victory where nothing is going right this season. Now single that. I still think it's over. Say that they will. I win. In position. Yeah. They don't try to win the NFC's. They are in a spot that I think they're fortunate to be in considering how poorly laid me this gin. Yeah. But to say that they will win the NFC east is an overreaction just because you cannot be that authoritative on a team that has been that inconsistent this season. So you're staying there's a there's a chance to change a legitimate chance. But it doesn't mean that they will win it right at him. Which is why it's overreaction Monday. Now to the ravens let's talk quarterback, shall we? Lamar Jackson started the last two for Baltimore. They've won both. Lamar Jackson will start the rest of the season. Tim Hasselbeck overreaction for me. He's done a very good job in his two starts, really. Even in the limited play. They were giving him prior to starting. I think there's obviously a lot of room for improvement terms of the passing. And I think the other aspect of it is late in that game against Oakland. He looks like he pulled his hamstring until sidelined. I can't run. So if he can't run you shouldn't play then. Some quarterback got bad him. I'm not going to scream man. Right. Like, that's really what he's done. Well, and I, you know, waiting for the injury report to come out and see his participation, but he looked hurt at the end of that won't listen to that in his one hundred ninety rushing yards last two weeks the most by any quarterback in his first two starts in the Super Bowl era. Just to your point. It has been a huge part of what he does. Yeah. I believe it's an overreaction as well. But I do believe he has given Joe flacco the opportunity to heal. I do believe that he's also earned the opportunity to get more playing time and do some different things within his offense that I don't believe he was doing before. Joe flacco went out what he's allowed them to do. And even if he's he's he's hurt now with a little bit different. But if he's healthy enough to go this you could make sure Joe flacco is that one hundred percent and ready to go. You have the falcons coming up. You have the chiefs coming up two teams that I think at least offensively Lamar Jackson could play well against but he's earned the right to play more. He's earned the right to get more snaps in different situations. And I believe. Coach Hobo in speaking. After the game saying he's not going to give his his opponents an opportunity to prepare for whatever quarterback that he's starting is smart. These guys are so different as their said, right? If these guys are so different make the next teammate the Atlanta, Falcons, try to figure out how to defeat as a defender. You hate it practicing to get two different teams in one week. There are times when that's lip service from head coach when there's not all that much difference. But this is apples and oranges in terms of. Adam is in an overreaction for you, their next two games are Atlanta. And at Kansas City. Do you want a rookie quarterback leading into those games? Or do you want a veteran quarterback? Now again to your point if he's healthy. I think they might Mike in the chance to play those games. But I don't know that he's fully healthy right now. And if he's not fully healthy thing, you have to go back to the veteran and so on that basis law. I think it's a reaction to saying that Lamar Jackson will start. First season. I I can't believe that a SuperBowl winning quarterback. Even if he's not playing great this year his reign in Baltimore. Just be over. Just like it just taught me to imagine coming to an end like that. But look Lamar Jackson played well enough to continue to play and to be out there and to get another opportunity, especially if he's healthy. I don't know that he's healthy right now. Well, that's a question with Bo quarterbacks the hip with Joe flacco, of course, the hamstring or potential hamstring with Lamar Jackson here is what Kotaro had to say this from Jamison Hensley with Joe flacco close to coming back. John Harbaugh was out. He believes the notion that a players shouldn't lose his job to injury and to which he replied, so we're going to go back to junior high school cliches Harbaugh said we'll do what gives us the best chance to win period end of conversation. There has been a change at the quarterback spot in Jacksonville. Doug Rowe and making the announcement just a few minutes ago, actually that it will be quarterback. Cody cat clerk who will start Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts. Jackie hosts Indy and Blake Bortles will back up. Cody kessler. Yeah. This is obviously some big changes in Jacksonville. I know Ryan got some strong feelings in this which he can touch on it again. They they've changed out their offensive coordinator. Fire Nathaniel Hackett. They said that Scott Melinda is going to be the play caller starting on Sunday. Cody Kessler takes over as the starting quarterback. And that tells you that there'll be more changes coming to the side of the football in Jacksonville this off season. No, absolutely. I think this signifies the end of this run of offense at least for Doug Marrone, Tom Coughlin and the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you know, Tim spoke to it. It was probably overdue and they had an opportunity with all of those quarterback. That he named in the off season. And not just like you just set your team back. You put your seat your team in a very difficult position in organization a difficult position when you had gone out and assembled pieces that can help this team very successful. And some of those names, of course, Kirk cousins, case keenum, Alex Smith, and I'll give you another one following the conversation. We've just had you know, who is linked to the Jaguars leading up to the draft. Lamar Jackson drive three agency. Then there's the draft. Well. Let you look at it. And he's like, I don't think there was anybody that watched that team last year that didn't feel like that way. They were playing on defense how they're running the football. Honestly, the way the receivers were playing the have anyone that watched. It knew that the quarterback was the big wild card thing holding them back in. So I don't know why you don't solve the problem when you have a chance to yet. All well. And I think. For me among the more cogent points made today was Ryan's in that getting as far as they did last season, perhaps perk them in their decision making preparations go think about your Nathaniel Hackett who was fired today. Go back and look at that New England Jacksonville game in in the in the playoffs last year like the meals with you in some ways, it was brilliant yet there. Yeah. Yeah. And how much bleed in the plan in that game? And some of the the different run stuff with the screen stuff. They had all they actually were really create him. Did a good job Nathaniel now fired his quarterback just he he played poorly. I mean, I think he's had three different offensive coordinators. Blake Bortles and they still owe him six and a half million guaranteed money on his fourteen million dollars salary next year. So they're on the books from next year even for redoing that contract this past off season, and he'll miss who else wanted them. Seriousness who else would assign them what kind of money would you be competing with design? I to me, it makes no sense. What they did a year ago makes no sense who's a competition to on them. If he had gone out there. If you go out there, we weren't hearing his name talked about the way you hearing Kirk cousins in case keenum, and teddy Bridgewater, and I don't know listen teddy didn't have a landing spot Tarrant signed a one year backup the jets and got traits and roles because he had nothing because Denver took case keenum Minnesota through cuddles. It was Blake slant as like together you look at Jacksonville. What will you do it? Probably would he would probably scared there. Somebody was going to say he was the third overall pick of the draft and draft. And he thought he was going to be been rothlisburger, and he has all this talent and fix them. And then you have to you when you're drafted there. You have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you stink. They signed him to that extension very early in the off season. And so the more you may be right? There may not have been a single team interested in him. But we don't know that we've dingy number. It. Never got to the point where he was not circle of conversation. I again, you may be exactly right. There may be as much as you think. So. It's like look at the league and just fi- find the landing spot like it shouldn't be that difficult. Like, listen with cousins, you could set my. Hey, listen. The jets might be an option there might be an option Minnesota like they knew that right away. Yeah. Because you because everyone used to think that the Niners were the landing spot. It's like well that wasn't the landing FOX Jimmy Garoppolo ended up there. It's not hard to look at thirty two teams figure out like what their quarterback situation is what their needs are who the people that are that are making decisions there. And if that guy that might become available would even fit in any of those places like so I if you're Jacksonville, I don't know who that tees now, my friend spill. Right now for it. Now, Cody Kessler stern unless of course, you're Jaguars fans. We all just get along. Shins ran high on Sunday the bills and the Jags and yesterday fight broke out on the sideline between Jags running back Leonard for net and the Bill shock Lawson of role, by the way that resulted in to Jackson's and it nearly continued into the tunnel as the two were brilliantly escorted off the field through this same half. Here's an idea. Let's don't do that Adam Schefter. If we say Hello from the Domino's headquarters. I are we likely to see further discipline. Adam from the league will wanted to league is going to reinforce the notion of don't do that. And it will do it in the form of fines issued later this week to the players involved. The question now is whether the league would take additional disciplinary steps after shack loss and Leonard fournette both with thrown out of the game. And then met again in a tunnel. The is fortunate that this didn't spill over into the stands as close as the stands as the players were you saw shack loss and that to be restrained there in the tunnel. And again, I think that they'll be. Definite finds that come out of this. And we'll see whether any additional discipline. Does is. Well, my guess is that the objections from Sunday suffice, but we'll see from the league soon enough again the dominates pre-game. It's Q Schefter. Let's go through some injury reports. If you well, let's start with that. Andy Dong don't sprained his thumb yesterday. And the initial x rays were negative. He's continuing to undergo evaluation to determine whether or not he can play Sunday against the Denver Broncos. If he cannot play than Jeff Driscoll would be cold upon again to replace Dalton in the starting lineup for the Cincinnati Bengals. But don't miss them injuries in the past. We'll see whether or not you get through this current version of this thumb injury as for the Chicago Bears and their quarterback. Mitchell Trubisky sat out Thanksgiving Day due to a shoulder injury. He's hopeful that he'll be able to play on Sunday at New York against the giants. But does not know yet whether he can do that if he can't play Shays Daniel would obviously get the turn again, he lived bears to it. Thanks. Giving victory for Bisky will try to come back this week. But there are no shirts as you will. And if he misses this game, it'd be just this game as the chargers never any back knowing Gordon, he's still pretty Spreen MC L. The chargers are calling. It we week, but MCI are tough to bounce back from right away. I think we don't see Gordon for a couple of weeks minimum here. And then they'll evaluate that without him Austin Ecuador and Justin Jackson will be called upon to get involved in the chores offense. And should also note today that the Detroit Lions wide receiver Marvin Jones on. I are the Denver Broncos placed their tight end Jeff Ireland on I r and the Jacksonville Jaguars replaced their high price guard Andrew norwell on IRR more season and the injuries Wendy chef Diana's that time of the year. Is we make the home stretch here? Rivers. Meanwhile, has had a very under the radar season. He's thrown multiple touchdown passes in all eleven games this season. He's just the fourth quarterback to throw at least TD's in each of his team's first. Eleven games of a season. He joins Aaron Rodgers in twenty eleven Peyton Manning in two thousand four and Johnny United in hundred fifty nine this is notable. Because all three of those quarterbacks went on to win the NFL's MVP award as we say elope from the film room. Brought to you five Reisen. Listen is Philip rivers are MVP or does he deserve. This is that an overreaction. It's an overreaction. And this is one of those hard questions where it sounds like you have to talk bad about the guy. Why do you think river, right, right, right? Who who does Ryan Clark? Philip rivers has been amazing this year. It's a huge reason why this team is eight three. The only problem is the year that those guys won the MVP. You didn't have drew Brees with twenty five touchdowns in only one interception. You didn't have Patrick Mahomes starting off the season at a record pace in now sitting at thirty six seven touchdowns is just very difficult. When those are the two guys that you're going up against an old, by the way. Those guys teams are. Also, having excellent years is just very difficult. But Philip rivers deserves to now be in that conversation the conversation perhaps in over overstatement to say, he's the one. That's why it's an overreaction for me. One hundred percent in the conversation with Ryan's point. It's not just about the amazing year that one guy in this case, Philip rivers is having. It's the fact that you know, all these other quarterbacks are kind of blowing numbers that refuse to seeing out of the water is well, and so, yeah, it's great that you know, when you look at this the distant goal, you know, kind of things that guys that down the path that are compared with a what? I was looking for. Thank you very much. I am here. Appreciate your help. And. Compare all those other guys compare what drew Brees is done. Compare this crazy Mahomes has done. It is crazy. So because of that, I don't think Philip well, and it is true. We sort of set things things these things up to where you think you have to say something negative. That's not the case. We're just talking about the very very best still absolute in the mix and having a a remarkable season. If you love football yelling television screens with rims and wearing clothing with someone else's name on it. 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The coaches addition got there be without candidate. When you're doing you miss it. I'm more interested in is because a good colleague of mine a very intelligent former quarterback named Tim Hasselbeck always talks about Cam, Newton's, costumes. This one is Sherlock Holmes, and listen, and I like to call it Sherlock, homey. Check him out, man. So we got the we got the code on coldest fire. Beautiful black. I bet it some type of material I cannot even afford great collar, right? You love it. When the colleges lay straight down the best the black tide of match the glasses. Right. It's the glasses to let you know. I'm looking for. I'm looking at you and the beautiful heads added on samba when I love about the head, Tim. Here's what I like about the head that it doesn't just go matchy matchy wouldn't write a different color to the head. You add something different to it. Because he is truly Sherlock Holmes. He's looking sure who what have you? What if you're looking for a win? For him on Sunday. Right. So MS guy, which I only to this guy with the hey, I know it's a tough year in Green Bay. I understand that Mike McCarthy habits. Some place. But look at my guide is not the Cam Newton. Heck, would it still the cool king gold room? You know, what I'm saying a little whom OD? I love it. L O J. He wins. Simple. Right. He went with the solid coat color. You know, why he's a Super Bowl champion. Right. He doesn't have to be flashy. He doesn't have to show you that he has money because we already know the guy so like and he's not skinny. Good. With the goal tally Cam. You know, why because grew up with his words Steeler fan. Lena's wanted to represent any represented will know to the Knicks coach this guy Costa great game. And I bet you wondering why would I use von Miller as a coat Kelly play the sound, please. Channeling built Elettra. Onison smith. The cincinnati. And you know, what they say that, you know, imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and we are imitating Bill Belichick. So he got to be a part of the coaches sex look at the sweatshirt look into hoodie. You know, that's what it's about. But you didn't see the sodo change here. What is Bill Belichick? He's thinking news. He's rude to the media. He's rude to everybody. Getting doesn't sent all the people that he doesn't wanna talk to. And von Miller did a perfect job even down to the sky. And this is coaches addition. I'm glad to be back. I guess we'll guys his own decision in. That whole been you know, we have to be nice, and we don't have anything. Nice exact very complementary. Very I don't know. Can you say something nice about Bill them? A lot of championship knew you were going with that short. She thought sorta like home call me my favorite line of the season. And he whites in fact, looking for that he lose to win. Don't sleep on Baker Mayfield the Browns quarterback completed nineteen to twenty six passes two hundred and fifty eight yards and touchdowns and a big win over the Bengals he'd led his team to Twenty-eight first half point. That's the teams highest first half scoring total since nineteen ninety one. And it does his play any weight justify John Dorsey decision to part ways with Hugh Jackson and Todd. Haley Mayfield has completed seventy four percent of pants in the three games since those two were fired with nine touchdowns. Just one interception. His ABA QBR since week nine the third highest in the league behind to pretty good quarterbacks. Drew Brees and Andrew luck. I don't know. Live Cleveland goes down and Cincinnati. I don't know. That's just somebody that was in our locker room asking for us to play for him. And then goes to a different team. We played twice a year. Everybody can either spin on it. But that's how I feel. No. I mean, it's just like any rivalry game. That's just how it is. Now, that's gonna treat it every time we plan. But it's it's nothing. You know, there's no hate. That's just how it is. That's gonna treat it. And I think that's our team street. It too. Response to a question about his Baker mayfield's choice tonight to speak a whole lot with with Hugh Jackson after this game. I'll say this reaction Monday Baker Mayfield criticism of his former head coach was warranted. Adam schefter. I don't think that's an overreaction at all. I mean, basically, he feels bad. This guy went and changed teams in the division so close now Hugh Jackson did what he had to take care of himself. But basically they can make field. No, he usually to feel the way the second. I need a job. Hugh Jackson Lee, they find. Okay. He's allowed to do what he was fired. It wasn't his choice to leave. It was like it was like he had a choice to be a Cleveland and he did. And he did. Right. He didn't have the choice that just any say. And he said it's a team that they play every year the big twelve Texas Tech's in the big twelve right? Oklahoma is in big tool as your opinion short. Do this talking about Hugh Jackson which teams teams, right? Differs this him. They come. Did they did they cut him off team or say you couldn't play for Texas, take any more you just chose to go to a better place. And that's okay. You're allowed to do that as Hugh Jackson is allowed to go coach and have a job anywhere else. He can possibly get one after only winning three in three m and health because he was fired. I just listened. I I think this is a sign of immaturity. I understand feeling some type of way about it. But I think in in the dressing the way he did Israel. If you don't wanna talk to him and hugging shaking hand if you got like the code. Don. Right. But the switch at teams thing is one of the dumbest things I've ever been around pro football. Young. I mean, he he can feel that way. Sure he can feel anyway. But it just it sounded a little young to me. But yeah. Hey, teach him. He didn't he didn't get forced. Thank you card. All right. Todd Bowles says he's not sure if quarterback Sam darnold we'll practice on Wednesday this rich to menial stretch of border says Josh mccown right thumb, it's fine and should not keep him out of practice. The jet coming off a loss to the patriots here. Now towns of week twelve. So what it says for the wall? I thought he was gonna leave you almost off to Chris Carter and he peed leak. Well. Are you kidding me? Three sixty year. Holy can't be the mom krizner providence. She said. She said on the crown give an auditor. I give them nine hundred ten. Oh, yeah. You know, my skills or Mississippi. You got one withholding call, but. Oh. You don't have to play today next. It is running Mitch. To see. Jackson here. His study. I didn't. Oh, jeez. Somebody said this was supposedly go half hour slapped. We all on on the Cincinnati cat told me to smile. We're just to the tunnel and bag almost field. Don't run up bills. Thankfully, colle- kind of a little bit little bit of. Sucking the most aren't they should go into thanking look. Four hours late may soon. Go. Spotted the kick is away as a kid. You know, when you're supposed to it was supposed to be the lightest guy on the field. So digs was supposed to be up there. But Belvedere one to do it. So I jumped up. So this it. Onto cincinnati. We're onto Monday night football. We've got the titans and the Texans. Remember Houston started. Oh in three. They've turned it around won seven in a row, they can win eight tonight. What are you watching as you mean emotional scene there with the passing of Bob McNair on Friday? And I think that this Texas team will look to join spray for that pay to honor that man's memory megawatt that organization the titans get back their defensive coordinator as you mentioned earlier dean Zo DB's comes back in the Texans. Get emotional boost here on Monday night. I think no question the man who brought the NFL back to Houston big questions tonight. All the way around. We'll be health. Marcus mariota. Tim says he'll be fine. But what will you watch for with the titans quarterback tonight? I just think how accurately is thrown football had the, you know, the elbow injury earlier this year now a stinger, and, you know, most quarterbacks aren't playing through sting all the positions seem to play through that type of thing. Just can't he accurately throw the football. I think is going to be the the key for that offense. Yeah. For me. It's about Kim. This texas. Continue to win games with the coats coming up in winning the way that they are as you look playing how we is. Can these teams get a win tonight and stay in that race? Or if you stay up on the coke. How far we've come since you are driving to a game because you can't fly. Right. You have a collapsed long or a problem with your lung. 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Hour 1: MLB Opening Day

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Hour 1: MLB Opening Day

"Good Morning. It is time to get up with words I've waited one hundred nineteen days to say all baseball is back. I'll tell you. Why might really be better than ever? Plus they put together a list of the best and they left. Who off it? It can't be, but it is. We've got all the reaction. And then the latest cowboys controversy can be answered with one simple question. The answers pulled. Decide everything and they're. They're coming up in this hour as we get with you bright and early starting right now and this. My friends is the room where it happens. Major League Baseball's opening day. One hundred nineteen days after it was originally scheduled comes your way tonight with a double header on ESPN. It will begin with the Yankees, and the nationals right there in our nation's capital. Mike Greenberg in Bristol delighted. You've chosen to get up with us. And according to the Elias Sports, Bureau this is the first time in one hundred years. We have gone this long. It has been since March eleven hundred and thirty three days since any of the major sports had a competition in this country. We've waited a long time for it and tonight. It is back. Let's get to it baseball tonight, and as I mentioned, you will see the defending champion nationals opening the baseball season against the Yankees and what a pitcher's duel! This has the potential to be. You will see Max Scherzer facing the newest Yankees as in Garrett Cole. So that's the opener and then the nightcap tonight equally good. Dodgers hosting the giants dodgers. Gangqi is our plus three fifty co favorites to win the world series, so you will see what most people think are the two best teams in baseball tonight and thinking of the dodgers. They made a little transaction yesterday hitting looking bats a twelve year, three, hundred, sixty, five million dollar extension is total contract value is now the second largest in baseball history. Just how good is. Is Hokey bets. Glad you ask look at the company. He meets on a per game. Basis is the seven best player of all time ahead of Willie mays, and just behind Lou Gehrig, so the numbers are extraordinarily Mark Sharon is here. We'll get betson second blisters. Start with this tax as I said. We've waited one hundred nineteen extra days for this. What does opening day twenty twenty mean to you? This is a huge day for all of sports. Major League baseball the players. The fans I'm excited about today because. We talked about it a lot this off season, and through the spring Greenie. We didn't know if baseball was going to be played. And the fact that the players and owners finally got together that we're going to play baseball. Tonight is so special for this country, because a lot of people use opening day in April as time to get excited about their year. It's been a cold winter. It's maybe been a little bit depressing especially. If you live in the northeast like I do, but it's been depressing. Depressing for a different reason now greenie and I think our entire country and baseball fans. All over the world are really excited about tonight. Let's hope and let's hope that it is the beginning of of more good things to come meanwhile I mentioned. We've got the Yankees and the dodgers in separate games in a doubleheader tonight, and they are the Vegas Co favorites this year for those who haven't seen it. What is your world series prediction at the end of this unprecedented sprint of a baseball season? Will Greenie everyone's talking about the Yankees and dodgers and look at their rosters and their stars in the Yankees Got Garrett Cole this off season. The dodgers got bets so I'm going Yankees dodgers and they're just so stacked greeny and Sprint with sixteen games. I'm not sure what's going to happen. There's a lot of crazy things that could happen in two thousand twenty. At those two teams on paper, you have to say they're the world series favorites and you mentioned bets here. Let's get back to him. I don't know that anyone was really expecting on the day before the season began for mookie Betts to sign a three hundred sixty five million dollar contract extension. What was your reaction? First of all good for mookie Betts he's one of the top players in the game at a historically great player, and he's getting to play for the LA dodgers one of the top teams when the top franchises in all of baseball and so men good for Mookie Betts and I. Think a lot of fans are gonNA. Say Oh, well, look you know. Baseball's going to be fine. Players were getting paid, but you really look at why the players were so upset. This off season, and in all these negotiations with the owners is that salaries have not been really increasing with the state of play in Major League Baseball. You look at revenues have pretty much triple. Since Alex Rodriguez's huge contract twenty years ago, franchise values are up seven x in the last twenty years, but yet our top players are still just kind of making a round the same. They've been making for decades, so mookie Betts got a great contract, but I think what you've seen is a lot of teams are spreading these deals out. He's got twelve years right there. Spreading these deals out to stay under the luxury tax. This luxury tax is a problem for major. League baseball players and MOOKIE got his, but a lot of players won't get. There's this off season. That's a different conversation for a different day for today we'll just. Just be excited. They coming back to play, and we will check in with you tomorrow morning. Mark as we will actually have major, League. Baseball highlights to be looking at and speaking of highlights. Look what I've got here. I've got actual NBA players playing actual NBA. Games last night were weak from the regular season openers were they tipped off in the bubble last night with the clippers and the magic playing in a scrimmage, Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both played nineteen minutes each in the scrimmage. George led the way with eighteen points. Clippers, one, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety. Look a pool. The court looks you're coming nuggets experimenting starting five bigs with. Nicola Yokich at the point. Two Thousand Nineteen Second Round Pick Bowl Bowl who stole the show in a win over the wizards in his NBA debut, had sixteen points, ten boards and six blocks, so that was fun to watch, and then there's ion. He may be away from the Pelicans, but the team didn't miss a beat in their first scrimmage without him, they blasted the injury-depleted and otherwise depleted nets nine to sixty eight Brandon Ingram, one of five Pelicans in double figures, twelve points and eleven minutes of action, and you're interested in the NBA. We will have Jalen and Rachel coming up. Up a little bit later, first names only for people of their stature, and they will be along in our program this morning with a look at the NBA a week before the season starts what to expect from Zion, who to expect to win and a whole lot more. That's coming up later this morning. Here on, get up meanwhile CNN as you've probably heard. Is reporting that Woody Johnson? Who was the owner of the new? York jets so subject to state, department investigations following allegations that he made racist and sexist comments while serving as ambassador to. To the United Kingdom and that he sought to have the open championship played at a resort owned by President trump. The president has denied these allegations and NFL spokesman said the League is aware of the CNN report and referred questions to the state, department as far as woody Johnson himself. He posted this on twitter yesterday. Quote I have followed the ethical rules and requirements of my office. At all times, these false claims of insensitive remarks about race and gender are totally inconsistent with my longstanding record and values, maybe the best of all of the players on the. The jets Jamal Adams. He reacted on twitter. And you see it there. We need the right people at the top wrong is wrong. Right is right. Wrong is wrong if you don't think this is wrong, you're part of the problem, not the solution so a lot there to unpack. Let's get our football. Conversation started. Our insider Grazziano. was here in the big swag Goo Marcus Spears as well, but Dan I will start with you. What can you tell us about the reaction from the League yesterday in anything else? You heard about the story involving Woody Johnson. Green you when you look at the way. The League handles investigations into these matters. The first thing they always do is they defer to. Whatever the law enforcement entity in question is right if someone gets in trouble with the police player, a team employee owner, the League. Will I let that process play out with regard to local law enforcement? Now we're talking about the US. State Department and obviously according to their statement. The League is going to wait and see what the US state. Department does before deciding whether to take any league. Against a team owner, it's a tricky spot obviously for commissioner Roger Goodell he works for the owners and we've seen in recent years. Owners getting in some degree of trouble here and there and. Some discussion that we've all had obviously about whether. The League's gone far enough, or as far as it would have gone with players in similar situations right now early. In this the league's finding out about it will there be an investigation leak investigation woody Johnson's behavior at some point. It's entirely possible, but I don't think we're at the point yet. Where the NFL office knows that for sure and Marcus through the eyes of an NFL player, and in particular as we see the reaction of the highest profile of the New York jets Jamal Adams yesterday. What did you see in this yesterday? I mean if if it if it's true, Gee, I'm I'm assuming editor, try to be a mass exodus of players are either try to get woody Johnson out of there and I know. Those are extremes, but that is the high emotional value that we have right now especially for stuff like this and Johnston's apology. I didn't think it needed to be said all of that if you didn't say just say, I, didn't I didn't say. Make these remarks and the truth will come to the light. All of these eloquent apologies and trying to save things, so everybody understand it is what it is man when you think about the climate of what's going on right now. A lot of these things are going to come out, and I'm not saying if it's true or not true. I don't know that but a lot of things. If things like this happened in the Pairs, a lot of people are feeling like they need the exposed these things, so I'll be interested to see how this plays out. I'm not sure if you can prove woody Johnson say anything if you don't have it on tape, or if you don't have some type of video to go along with it, but I'm sure it'll be, it'll be. I'm put it like this. It players. You saw Jamal Adams tweet, but his players in the jets organization right now that that believed this probably, and this is players that either want to hear a statement for the Johnson WanNa find out if it's true or they want to get out of there or get him out of there. That's that's where we are now so I'll be interested very interested to see how this plays out, but but in in me and what? I'm thinking I don't know if anything's. Anything's GONNA. Come of it because if you don't have proof of video evidence like I, said is he say she say and that will stand up. When you try to make a judgment well, we'll see so so to be clear a couple of different things here. The statement that Woody Johnson release which I read a moment ago, there is no apology in it whatsoever. There is a very simple. There's a very simple denial if you will of any wrongdoing here in a suggestion that his record. Suggests otherwise Dan what I would say about this. A lot of people were reacting to this and asking me questions yesterday. Could this be another Donald Sterling Situation? And of course it's far too early in the process to know if it will get anywhere near that, but what I would say, Dan is that that became what became because of the reaction of players, and that's where this will come from right Dan, and I think in our experience it will be the players who will drive the reaction to this first and foremost. Obviously Donald Sterling there was audio recording. Everybody heard what he said, and obviously the reaction to that understandable and up forcing him to sell the Los Angeles Clippers in terms of NFL. Roughly similar situations and please I'm not trying to equate any situation to any other, but this reminds me of a couple. One Jerry Richardson, a former owner of the Carolina Panthers. An investigation sports illustrated found that he was guilty of making remarks around the team facility to team employees. He ends up selling the panthers. Bob McNair the late Bob McNair who was the owner of the Houston Texans was found. According to our own reporting, ESPN to have said something in an owner's meeting. About can't have the inmates running the prison. His team reacted very badly to that. Several players storming out of practice and relationships obviously had to be repaired there, so yes, you're absolutely right if there are players on the jets. Jamal Adams trying to get traded. So that's a different matter. Altogether, if players on the jets are players who were considering going to the jets, and this is a factor in their minds. It's very damaging for the team to be very clear. I don't know what he did and didn't say it would be unfair for any of us to prejudge that, but I think that if he thinks that just putting that statement on. On twitter put an end to the story. He's got another thing coming. Meanwhile, we get ourselves started to come back to you on that I. Promise I gotTa take a break. We'll come back to this a little later in the program as we continue on, get up. They haven't been in a super bowl. Since the days of Aikman and Emmitt, and can the cowboys possibly return to glory? We'll talk about it, and he might be the greatest talent. We ever saw if he didn't win enough. Whose fault is that? We'll answer that question and many more as we get rolling opening day. Get up. On ESPN. Back on, get up where we're brought to you by GEICO. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. And back to the NFL the cowboys looking for their first NFC championship. If you're in since the nineties, the the twenty four different teams have played in a conference championship game since the cowboys last did at the end of the nineteen ninety five season, but with a stacked offense, and they're all young. The future seems bright for Dallas, a bright enough that when our ESPN panel of experts put together our future power rankings meaning projections over the next three seasons they put the cowboys as having the fifth brightest future of any team, which of course raises a lot. Lot of eyebrows when you consider just how little success they've had steven, A. Smith in particular was perplexed by these rankings, and so it seemed to me as we bring Rodney into the conversation with Marcus and Dan today a very simple way to judge whether they belong on that list or not to frame the question, this way and rob. Nicovic will start with you in the next three seasons because that's the length of time that the panel was using. Will they break that string? WE'LL THE DALLAS. Cowboys play in the NFC championship game in the next three years. Yes, I think so and I want to start with the first guy that I. Think's GonNa make a change, and that's Mike McCarthy in the head head coach, look. I think he had an unfair shake at the end. There in Green Bay didn't work out that he comes to the cowboys with a young roster and you look at. Back's against the wall on a franchise tag. He's going to come out swinging. season, Zeke kind of feels maybe a little bit disrespected that he's not getting the respect as maybe the number one running back in the NFL, so he's going to be also motivated this season. I think they're built to win. Now you look at their offensive line very strong, dealing with Lawrence linebackers strong with vendors young so I. Think they're built to win, you see. Jones talking Jerry Jones talking about he wants to win now. He doesn't know how much time he's got left to to win again back the way they were in the ninety, so they want to win now I think that they have a chance to do it. Maybe this year, because a lot of guys are motivated and you got Mike McCarthy's your head coach all right, let me turn my former cabinet and the panel marcus spears, yes, or no cowboys championship game the next three years. No no and it's tough for me to say that. Because every year we pick the cowboys to go deep into the playoffs. Here's my issue. Number one is defensively. This team is ranked eleven sixth and thirteenth. Then you would look at that and conventional. Man That's not bad, but if you look at them against top tier quarterbacks, they've struggled mightily and that that is my issue Aaron Rodgers may not be in green. Bay, he may go to a better team. That could possibly be in the NFC. Let's not forget that we what was going on with Jordan Love Russell. Wilson Seattle getting better and by the way they just signed Greg Olsen. Tom Brady is in Tampa Bay drew. brees is still in New Orleans. We don't know what Matt Ryan and the Falcons are going to do. They can jump up, so it's not necessarily that the cowboys aren't good enough. They just haven't proven that they can win. Those type of games to get to NFC championship and three years is a long time and I know is drawn out, but defensively is where I think you have to come a big and make plays I go back to the Patriots. Game go back to the jets game last year. Those were gains for. For the defense to themselves and people look I'm a defensive guy like meet and I'll look at this offense and this prolific, and these guys can play. They had all of those stats. All does yours last year and win eight so I gotta give him a boy some tough love, and just say no I. Don't see it because they haven't shown that the past three years when they've been a very good team. tyran Smith is getting older, Travis Frederick retire. There's a lot of things that they have to fix in the NFC championship in the next three years. I've won Novo Dan Grazziano. Break a tie. I'm voting Yes for a couple reasons one is a team. That's always kinda right there right I. mean the they've had only one losing season in their last nine, and they have a quarterback situation that right now at least is is stable. We'll see how long Dak Prescott is there, but they believe he will be and then the other thing green i. it's not that hard. I've covered the NFC championship game five years in a row, and for those years it's been a complete blow out. You don't even remember the team that lost the NFC championship game to the to the Carolina Panthers to the Atlanta Falcons, which by the way it was a Mike McCarthy packers team. So I'm saying the NFC championship game, yes, they can get because there have been some teams net game recently. That really weren't all that memorable, so even if you don't think much of the Dallas cowboys over the next three years I don't think it's crazy for a team that has always five hundred or better to find a way to win a playoff game or two at some point and get into that game. Here's the part I'm concerned about and obviously this remains. Remains to be seen, but if they don't work out some sort of long term extension with Dak Prescott, then all of a sudden keeping DAK Prescott becomes a financial burden. He's going to cost them a fortune. Every penny of it against the Cap Graziano, so if this year made the point, this is the year to do it. If not this year, do they get in trouble or are you? Tell me you believe he wants working out an extension. That's more cap friendly. Faces around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM Dot. COM SLASH SMART to learn more for businesses around the world. Today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work. Visit IBM. Dot Com slash smart to learn more. I believe that he's he stays in Dallas. Is still there plan long-term. Obviously, it depends a lot on whether it's his plan long-term and the ball is kind of in his court right now given as you mentioned the significance of another franchise tag on their salary cap next year, but I do believe at this point we can forecast back Prescott and Dallas for the much. Much is this. Go Make Dan Orlovsky Happy Carson. wentz is still going to be in the NFC wail, and the Eagles and Doug Peterson over those next for years, so the only person on our panel. Cowboys Marcus Spears who was who was touting the evening I'm back. This was a day. I did not believe I'll put this situation all right. We will continue rolling here. We can't cheer Marcus up a little bit coming up. Is it possible to have a list of the best quarterbacks and leave the greatest of all time off it? It actually happened. We've got the reaction to that. Coming up on the way, and we have a little sneaky Hembo, time busters going to jump in here on opening day and trying to answer this question, which pitcher started the most opening day games. That's the question. The answer is coming up on an opening day addition. Get up on ESPN. Finally we've made it a day. That looked like it might never come and opening day like none ever before the starting line for a sixty game sprint to the postseason designed baseball's best entered it all begins tonight as four teams take the field. Are we witnessing the start of a dynasty in DC? Nationals have their work. Cut Out for them. Yes, they were able to overcome loss of Bryce Harper, but now Anthony Rendell has gone to so who's going to lead the nats affects one soda hits it. A ton just looks like a superstar. In the twenty one year old phenom is getting on base at a rate similar to Ted. Williams Mel Ott and Jimmie Foxx. Fancy company combined his. His Bat with perhaps the Games best pitching the naps may be able to relive the magic of twenty, nine, thousand nine, the Yankees on the other hand, try to leave the two thousand nineteen postseason behind them, and they turned to their former Fo- to do just that signing Garrett cold to three hundred twenty four million dollar contract, but will three twenty four equal world series. Number Twenty, eight. Meanwhile the dodgers hoping an off-season move of their own, we'll bring them their first world series, since eight may begin to as the definitive and L. favorite to make the impossible happen one boards time the dodgers archrivals in San Francisco where certainly hoping Ryder days after three straight losing seasons offseason filled with dollars and cents, tattoos and trash cans trades Sinek and so many questions all the answer tonight. The Twenty Twenty baseball season is here label. And no better way to start. They went sneaky Hembo trying to get one past. Robert Stanbury only the third roster. Here's the question which pitchers started the most opening day games. You know there are better ways to start my day. Go run around the bond units here in Washington could do things that make myself feel better about myself, but instead of going to answer this question and say Roger Clements and be wrong, Roger. Clemens, is not a bad guess. He's three away, but it is wrong. The answer is Tom seaver. SEAVER started sixteen opening day games. Eleven a met three is a red to Chicago White Sox Roger Clements Thirteen Jack Morris Walter Johnson Randy Johnson Steve Carlton Fourteen, so all Hembo will remember busters that you got it wrong, but opening day is upon us is a bunch of storylines here. One of them is the Toronto Blue Jays who are not going to play in Toronto this year are now also not gonNA play in Pittsburgh this here. The State of Pennsylvania next to that so how are the blue jays going to handle home games in the season of twenty twenty? Yeah greedy, they are scrambling now. One potential option would be to play in Baltimore, but the same dynamic wouldn't be there as there was in playing in. Toronto and playing in Pittsburgh and that the governor of Maryland may decide to nick sat out of concern for the health of folks in his states, another option to be played buffalo, their minor league affiliate, but the players have told the front office. That's not something that they WANNA do. They prefer to play in major league parks and the absolute worst case scenario, but it's a very. It's a distinct possibility is that they play their schedule, but? Play all the teams under schedule, but when they go to Yankee stadium for some games or Fenway Park Day would play as the home team, which would mean, they would be on the road for sixty six days, so they literally would not have a single quote, unquote home game, even though they would have the home team rules in their favor, but they would play all of their games as the visit or at least in visiting ballparks, so it's certainly something we've never seen before, but as I've said many times in pandemic, you do what you have to do, meanwhile, baseball and the Players Association. I was following this on your twitter. Yesterday are expanding talking about expanding the postseason from ten teams to sixteen teams this year. There's obviously a clock ticking down to the first game tonight. Where do we stand with this? Yeah the expectation is this is going to get done. They talked about this when they were having their financial scrap. During the summertime, they didn't reach an agreement dad, but it makes too much sense for both sides at a time when they're trying to find ways to increase revenue in a year, in which so much money has been lost, and you talk about potential excitement in those first days of the playoffs, because if you have sixteen teams in all likelihood, the first round would be best of three matches. Between the teams in each league imagine an eight seed against the one seed like the Yankees and the dodgers will be playing to their lives right off the bat. Absolutely something they have to. If they're going, do it. Do they absolutely have to do it before the first pitch of the season tonight? Yeah in theory, I mean look, these are two sides. It could always break their own rules and rewrite as they go, but the aim is to get it done before the start of the game tonight. Keep a close eye on this this. This could be huge news at some point during this day and then speaking of huge news. What was the reaction you heard around the sport yesterday to the mookie Betts contract that comes down the day before the start of the season, three hundred and sixty five million dollar extension. Greenie people with other teams absolutely shocked. By the timing of this given, what's going on with covert given the fact that even know when there's a vaccine. That's GONNA. Come in. They don't know when fans are going to be in the stands, and so there's surprised that the dodgers spent this kind of money at a time when there's so much uncertainty, look. A respected player, everyone knows why the dodgers WanNa keep them, but the expectation had been among other teams that they would wait and play it out into the off season, and the thought is that maybe they were far down the road in terms of talking about an extension when Kovic shut down the sport, one way or another, he's now got the second biggest contract in the sport buster. Only do a rain dance. We need baseball tonight. I know their. Major questions about whether we need these games tonight and we will see them here on ESPN Max. Scherzer and Garrett Cole tonight. Nationals Yankees -buster will be a part of the broadcast at seven eastern followed by Clayton Kershaw on the dodgers. In the giants tennis turn both Games are here on ESPN ESPN, two deportees, and the ESPN, APP. Back, to the NFL talk about Aaron Rodgers, he has one hundred thirteen career wins second to Brett. Farve in Green Bay history third in the League, since he became the team's starting quarterback in two thousand and eight under Rogers, the packers won fifteen games in twenty eleven that was the most in team history. He led them to thirteen wins last season, which was tied for second most all time and of course Rogers did lead the packers to a super bowl forty five win again the steelers at the time. Time that gave Green Bay. It's fourth super. Bowl win its first since the ninety six season. They won one with Farve. They've won one with Aaron Rodgers and only that one, and despite having just the single super bowl appearance, pro football focus graded Aaron Rodgers as the best playoff quarterback of the last decade. This barely beating out Patrick Mahomes. This is a list came out the other day. I just take a moment and look at it here before we take it off the screen Rogers Mahomes Nick foles. Eli Manning Russell Wilson, so just sort of put that in the back of your mind cause one very named one name that is very obviously knocked there that we're going to talk about a little later in the conversation, but I want to start with this notion of Rogers because we brought this up a little bit yesterday and I've tried to bring it up a number of times that we've never really been able to dive into going to do it now. Rodney Vich. You're talking about pro football focus telling us that Aaron Rodgers was the best playoff quarterback of the decade. Almost any of us who watch the sport we'll say he is as talented as any quarterback maybe that we've ever seen. So the question is to have made to just one super bowl with him. Would you consider that an under achievement by the packers? Yeah of course, I mean look if if he is the according to pro football, focus the number one quarterback in the postseason. You would think that they'd have more than one super bowl appearance I mean think back to two thousand fourteen onside kick we should have been. The Patriots should have been playing the packers instead of the Seahawks, so you can't blame it all on Rogers, but I think that the organization should definitely have had more than one appearance in the super bowl, since Rogers has taken over so yeah, definitely I think that they should have one super they have. Have two three at least appearances, so they definitely underachieved with the talent of Aaron Rodgers yes. Yes. We could we have a different discussion about whether how much of the blame goes on Rogers himself, and how much of it goes elsewhere, but generally speaking marcus spears. If you have a quarterback that good for this long, and I would even add to it. They had Brett farve before that they've basically had first ballot hall of fame quarterback play for the last thirty years. They've made three super bowls in that time in one two of them. The you consider that an underachievement. And it's not even close. Listen when Aaron Rodgers think about this right now right now. This climate that we're in what Patrick Mahomes didn't we say all about air rouses then we say Raja's William. Multiple Super Bowls in Green, Bay as long as they kept people around him. I remember playing some of those Green Bay teams with the great defenses with Matthews and B J Raji and all of those guys on the back end of Woodson. was there like? That one team got it done, so it's not like green. Bay hasn't had guys around here Raja's all at all times. They haven't done a lot of things that you probably should do when you have a talent like Aaron Rodgers. So Yeah underachiever that is that is at the baseline of what Green Bay. Problems have been I mean. People have had this conversation to your point. Jiabao Brett Farve as well like. Shouldn't we have one more with some of those teams with Donald driver and all of those guys? They had as well throughout his tenure, but when you look at Aaron Rodgers ability to play this game. At the high level like he does at quarterback. This is whatever franchises looking for. Every franchise wants a guy. They feel like they can win. The Super Bowl we every year and Green Bay has had that for number. Using couldn't get it number once very quickly before I bring Graziano in here because I think he's going to take a different position, but marcus you play in the NFL longtime. He plays defense. He played against a Lotta. Great quarterbacks and Brady is the goat. He's the greatest of all time. That's not debatable, but was Aaron Rodgers best quarterback. You ever played against. How would you describe what it was like playing against him? No question, best quarterback I've played against the best quarterback I've seen in person because I haven't seen patrimony person lined up across the line of scrimmage from me, g his ability to run his ability to throw the ball in any type of window. And just his improvisation. was playing in Raja's eat. He was out running linebackers and secondary guys to pick up yards plays broke down and the like all of these things that we see for Patrick. Mahomes Air Raja's was doing net is not is not that much of a difference between what Air Rogers had the ability to do on the field as opposed to what we're seeing Patrick Mahomes. Do Right now. The game was different, but listen. He's the best I- of a across the line of Scrimmage Harry Graziano. Do you agree with this idea that it has been an organizational underachievement to only to one super bowl with a quarterback? This good this long. I don't agree green and I'm disappointed that I'm on a show with two distinguished former NFL, players, and I have to be the one to make the point that it's really hard to get to the Super Bowl the Tom Brady Rob Nicovic new. England patriots have ruined it for everyone because they're the only team that was able to consistently get to multiple super bowls win multiple super bowls. The colts underachieve with Peyton manning because they only won it once. Have the Seahawks underachieve with Russell Wilson? Wilson 'cause they only want. It wants I mean look. These are great players and great quarterbacks, but the fact is you cannot engineer a roster build in the off season that ensures a super bowl title. All you can do is build a team that consistently wins consistently gets to the playoffs. That's what the packers have been. Rogers been in the NFC championship game four times. Somebody referenced the midst onsides I mean this is the kind of the playoffs are casino if you go play Roulette. You keep betting on red and keep turn up black over and over again fifteen times in read underachieve. No, you just got some bad breaks, so I think it's. It's foolish to say. They underachieve when you're looking at a team that has been to the playoffs as much as they had i. really disagree with that and I know that Marcus does to go ahead. Swagger who? Growth. You, your heart-to-heart. You don't believe that. This please tell me you don't believe that. Breaks to win the playoffs. That you need some. But. If somebody told you go ahead. Z. Y. Hardaway I believe is what I'm going to say. I'm going to say when you look at the all time. Great quarterbacks and Rogers to me is as good as any of them. They make it to the super bowl a lot. I mean that's what these guys do. It is so noticeable that Marino didn't because the rest of the did John Elway got to the Super Bowl repeatedly. Great quarterbacks if you just go back through the history of the sport that great quarterbacks, well, there's a big difference four and one. You're holding up four fingers. I actually got there five times. I think he lost three, and then won the two at the very end. I think if you have. Manning into Andrew Luck disappointing not to get there more than one time. Go ahead, so I go. How many how many times did you go with the broncos to? Do, so he went to another till Tacoma net in that period of of no logo plan with the colts, and technically under a team because he was there for so long he went to Denver and went to two. And Will you tell me air? Rogers been there this loan and he's been the one, and that's not underachieving Russell Wilson Been Tool, even though he lost one two, and he sent a lost that one if they handed them ball off the marshawn Lynch, but he's been to like Carson Winston. For All intents and purposes has been to a super bowl. Has almost been. The two had enough been a guy lining up all sides couple of grass, one super bowl I arrived. underachievement. Almost I do want to get one moment. However, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. We gotta get one moment in if we can for our friend Mr Gingrich on on the elephant in the room. The list is an. Exactly what to say about a list that grades the best quarter postseason. Decade that does not include. which we're former teammate, Tom Brady who owned the decade of the twenty tens, and won multiple super bowls, and made it. Every year made the playoffs every single year. What do you think of the fact that Brady is not in the top five? Nine Super, Bowl appearances, six wins I mean does that even make sense? The most highest winning percentage of wins yards touchdown passes. Does it make sense I? Don't think so certainly doesn't and again this this only takes into account the decade of the twenty teens, so it's not all of those Super Bowl appearances is not all of the championship sort. There was a run during this decade in which he made the Super Bowl three consecutive times one two of them and the one that he didn't win. He threw for five hundred yards in his team. Never punted, so it's very hard to suggest. He was the reason that they didn't beat the EAGLES THAT YEAR SO I! I. Like Pro Football Focus a lot and I find a lot of what they do fascinating, but I need an explanation niche. We need an explanation of how Brady is not in the top five postseason quarterbacks of the decade, but Nick Foles Eli Manning are all right. We'll leave it there for the moment as we continue cutting up, would patrick mahomes struggle if he switched places with Lamar Jackson Ninkovic said something that made. Marcus Spears head explode looking. Let them discuss this. As we continue next and much more on opening day, it's get up on ESPN. Padma homes on the Ravens in the mark. Jackson on the Kansas City chiefs Lamar. Jackson would be back to back. You out of your Damn Mind, Pat Mahomes struggle in the ravens offense. This should never have been a swag, says this was robbed. Playing to have this swagger said Swag and Nicovic together. Tomorrow on, get up. That should be a lot of fun. And tomorrow is now today. Let's see if it will be fun so here. We have these two dear friends who clearly have a disagreement so the other day and you saw it there rob which suggested that if you flip flop, Lamar Jackson Patrick mahomes contrary to conventional wisdom, it would be mahomes at Jackson. WHO WOULD STRUGGLE MARCUS? What's your reaction to that? First of all I don't know what to say. I think rob did. Know, me and you know that. I'm online when people say things like that first of all rob, let's go football right. We would not see the same offense in Baltimore it Patrick Mahomes was the quarterback, so it ain't as simple as flip-flopping them and the same things are happening I. Don't think Lamar Jackson was struggle at all. In Kansas City's offense are if rain and the recreated around him? But the Mark Jackson no need his legs in Kansas, city offensive as much as he needs in the ravens, all fit and would would off grid has done over there. I have no ideal okay after watching two years with Petro MOMS. And two years a Lamar Jackson. You cannot say these guys get flip flop and beat the Saint. Patrick Mahomes is a different animal brewing the ball. He is for eight of the more Jackson. When it comes today, you can give me. Statue can give me numbers all of that we watch Patrick mahomes throw to football. Is owner level unlike we've ever seen that does not be la more can't throw the football and vice versa when the takes Iran's, he is not there has never been a Lamar Jackson, ever athletically at the quarterback position, but flip-flopping. Those guys rob you OUGHTA. Go ahead nick. Marcus is Kansas City's offensive skill position. Better true false is Kansas City's offensive scope. Better Ravens yes. Lamar Jackson Excel with the offensive weapons in Kansas City. would be up with Lamar. Yes, he would now if you take pat, mahomes have put him with the Ravens with they would. They had the same offense. No, they'd have a different offense, but would you have the same weapons? That he has in Kansas City. He doesn't have tyreek Hill with the Ravens. He doesn't have Travis Kelsey with the Ravens so what I'm saying in Kansas City. If you put a quarterback like Lamar who can move in the pocket, who can get out of trouble and throw the ball down the field? Because let's not get it twisted. Now. He could throw the football and I think this year he's going to. To throw the ball down the field, even more and be even smarter in the pocket and get out of situations with his legs, and told the ball down the field. So what I said was look. We switch these guys and we put this quarterback. We put Pat. Mahomes on the Ravens in you. Take Lamar you put them with Kansas City that I think Lamar would take those weapons in Kansas City. And be the MVP two times in a row. That's what I think probably aware it's Marcus. Course. Do you think do you think Patrick Mahomes in that offense with the Ravens lose to the titans last year. Oh! Yeah because it's is running the football all over them, so yeah. Okay? You too low raw. I thought you. Thought you had a knicks really handle of wealth through this whole thing. And I thought you had it was like that moment at the end of a legal drama where the lawyer asked the question. Stand for a second there. I thought naked couldn't handle the truth all right. We'll done meanwhile. Some other. State well, guys get up ago Russell. Westbrook says he's quote thankful and blessed after participating in his first practice yesterday since recovering from the coronavirus, it's not been determined yet whether he will play in the rockets scrimmage on Friday, but he is in the bubble, and the is doing better. Meanwhile, the Pelicans announced that there is still no timetable for Zion Williamson to return to the bubble. However, he quote fully intends to rejoin the team. He's been getting tested daily for covert nineteen while outside the bubble. Rachel Nichols Jalen rose in. In our next hour. 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