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Columbia Sportswear CEO, Charles River Labs CEO, & Off The Charts

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

46:17 min | 1 year ago

Columbia Sportswear CEO, Charles River Labs CEO, & Off The Charts

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Eight hundred seventy three or tweet me at Jim Cramer China in on the senior medical adviser from the Chinese government tells us the corona virus outbreak is being may be over by apple and that translates into a nice vice opening for the stock market. The scientists Zahn Nanjohn has street cred. He's an eighty three year old epidemiologist. who helped fight SARS seventeen years ago next thing you know the markets making a stand although that moved in last with the Dell only seeking less than half a point s beginning point one seven percent and then ask inching being point eleven percent up but at one point the market was flying all this Sunday? You see what's happened is there's a bookcase developing China China bull case. We're getting first data. That shows a much. Higher percentage of people are recovering from the disease while fewer dying which is just that. Maybe we're through the most lethal stage warm portly at least as far as the stock market's concerned a legendary hedge fund manager ray value comes out and says concern about. The outbreak is exaggerate according to Dallaglio L.. Hardly anybody is going to be talking about this fires in your to well. That's exactly what we need. Good old-fashioned Hedge Fund manager tells US fears are overdone in Yom on end water's fine. Okay I know he didn't say that but that's how the market interpreted his comments were misinterpreted. So what happens. I think we've got a sneak peek into what this this market will look like once. This outbreaks truly beat and to me. It looks like a coiled. Spring could tape first. There's the cruise ships despite some unappealing steps recommended by the CDC yesterday they make these quarantines ship sound like floating hospitals and it gives these companies relief is met with Massar short-covering ms of buying hope springs eternal. Now we're all Caribbean. Norwegian cruise. Both jump roughly three percent even the beleaguered carnival with its floating sick day off the coast of Japan. Rally Buck and change. Why not one day? The Chinese will beat this in Dallas. Says it won't be talking about are thinking about a year to next hotels. Move Up for the same reason Mary. I picked up a ton of China when it bought Starwood for years ago stop jumps buck and a half today almost said anti when resorts is worrying too. Why not at the G.'s? Really picking a gamble syndrome right back to Macau. How about the semi's Yes? The semiconductors exposure exposure well yesterday the clouds stocks are while the more cyclical semi's got hammered with wanted the base customers apple today that we saw some excellent action invidia and XP December Andy Scours Cirrus. Logic corvo Brooke though apple wasn't able to lift of course these chipmakers benefit for more than just China when a federal judge blessed the merger of T. Mobile and sprint big surprise there at least a flood of euphoria as Wall Street's now betting the combined company will be a powerhouse of spending for five G. All these semi-state I five jeep at there wouldn't be any rally without China equipment. Stocks are up to two and other sure sign of corona confidence the airlines pathetic hangers one one. The China trade all rallied United States. Cheapest with the most China exposure the Chinese oriented industrials had Super Day Caterpillar. Emerson three I knew comments taking they can always be candidate for dreams of sweet Chinese worse. Same with PG towards the betters of high end autos made in China now yesterday while explain what will get a tax on investment for the long-term I we get a bounce. The stocks that have been beaten down the moment. There's anything PAS about China and that's what we're getting especially if it looks like the trump is going to be reelect regardless of how you might feel personally this. Love's guy with crew briefly making China related stand fifty dollars now now. I'm betting new oil cheerleaders will be out in full force tomorrow. Touting approves is with the big yells and tremendous growth prospects. I don't want you to believe the hype I want you to lighten ain't nothing to any strength. The group's not investable where the big money was made today shorting the China off stocks that meant going against the pop of the opening Microsoft. That was a six point gain if you did that. Then slamming the cloud kings like adobe or Vm. Ware workday because they just don't have that much China business. It meant banging down. The high flying clorox Iraq's because who needs to stockpile bleach if the epidemics peaking the thing about the strategies that can work for day but more than that. I think it's fool's game why we'll tell you why. Here's what you have to do when you have subject this you have to find your true north. You have to find someone you trust someone you believe in someone you fall in someone if you if you have to hang on every word and I've got my guy his name is Dr Tony Fallacy. That's F. C. see I they UCI but it's pronounce algae. He's an immunologist and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases National Institutes of health. He's been moreover air. I've never spoken to him personally but I read everything he says. Now if this were a hedge fund manager he he's been right every single step of the way in on this virus as well as every other one I fought him with a yesterday gave an interview. The Washington Post and my takeaway was you should beat buying the cheinal off stocks stocks. These his message was anything but reassuring listeners says when it when it comes to the corona virus quote the general public is naive with regard to protection and in a serious potential because it's already spreading rapidly in quote so then he's asked to be contained quote the short answer he he says is. We're not past the point of containment but it really does have the potential to turn doing global pandemic and then continues once you get multiple countries that have sustained transmission from person to person. Then it's almost inevitable that it's going to start spreading here end quote. Ouch travel bans now. They're just merely buying time. They probably won't work. She wants to help the CDC wants to help the NIH wants to help the Chinese. They don't want those organizations help. Not Reassure that's why I want to take the other side of today's trip. Why find today's trade just instructive structed? And nothing more. See they show you where the coral springs are when FAU cheeses mind. I don't know when he's going to. He's real good though. Remember or the global economy slowing because of this fires. I spent most of the stocks. Were up today. Have estimates on the streets that are GONNA proved to be too high because of the outbreak. And we need to be. Yes we are chat on the hill that she pals are back if things get out of control what we see in China is a country. That seems a little too out of control to believe contain the disease disease and therefore while I don't WanNa complaint life with money I have to tell you I think when estimates come down stocks go down. Look I want very much throw them all my body and all my brain with the eighty three year old Chinese doctor or break value. My instinct is say the come April will dialyse most flu outbreaks. Although if we don't solve it will come right back in the in the winter but so far so far you have to be encouraged by the travel bans effectiveness in this country thirteen cases cases. But this was way beyond the Ken of most investor commentators. We're not epidemiologist hedge for measures. On plus the disease can the episodic I look at a John Hopkins chart that shows the numbers to recover right. Now they're growing amount of recovery versus the it seems like improving ratio however. Have you noticed after after big flurry of hope. Lots of news articles headlines. No luck with any vaccine. There's no work with any medicines used before for other. What kinds of flu? There's nothing any biotech companies been able to come up with. Perhaps because the Chinese haven't exactly been super forthcoming. I have tremendous faith in our scientists. We're faith in Tony Foul. She tell you it like it is and I don't like how it is the bottom line until foul. She grows more positive changes view until he says something optimistic until he disavows the notion of public health nightmare and other countries around the globe. I'm saying I am staying squarely in the China off-campus you know what I recommend that you join me. Let's go to Ryan in Oregon Ryan Ramos. We thanks for taking my call and thank you for all that you do for the young investors. Oh thank you thank you very much. I'm calling about one of your favorite Sidhu Abuse Docks Marv L.. It's had a good year. Hobart's down about ten percent over the last few months and it just had a double downgrade late last week. It's your favorite go pick and if so is this a good time to buy. Okay we put out a note today for members of the Plus Dot com club saying that. It's still very much a five G.. Play ah now the double. Dan was disconcerting. And we mentioned that and we did say listen. There is some concern because five G. slowing in all these countries because of the virus so so like many companies aren't numbers estimates too. I it could be. Do we believe in this. I think it's going to be a little bit delayed. That said the stock was up. Think today note. We made it very clear that the story is not. Let's say the stories disconcerting and I gotta say that I went every story it'd be great but but they have to be great in order to say great. There's a lot of slow down and five G. around the globe. Let's go to fill up in North Carolina. Phil Hey Jim Yo. Hey North Carolina I in freedom and I and Fleiss didn't know that's right that's right. Yeah remember that go ahead. Hey I'm trying to make a play in the canonists market are noticed that To the four states of visited the demand is growing and growing going strong so I'm looking at Chronic Group C. R. O. N.. What do you think well? It's always returned to canopy. Can't be this guy. David Klein very serious business person former. CFO OF CONSTELLATION BRANDS chromosome not as good of a remember. My feeling on the industry is this is that it got too hot and a lot of people got burnt. I'm staying the China Poff Kim for now considered doing the same omay tonight why Sonnen Properties priest albumin centers by is so important which coop in this market could be ripe for similar consolidation then. The markets tear inspired the corner buyers outbreak the clip we beat Duke for either off the charts to find out and Columbia sportswear tested top but could unusually warm weather be bad news for the company. I'm talking to the CEO to see if it's post. Earnings decline is a buying opportunity. Stay with free. Don't miss a the second of mad money follow at Jim Cramer on twitter. Have a question. Tweet Gramer Hashtag mad tweets send Jimmy Mail to mad add money at CNBC DOT com or give us a call at one eight hundred seven four three CNBC Miss Something Ed Madman Dot. CBC Dot Com. What is decision tech by fidelity? It's technology that can help you find a stock based John. What's trending or an investing goal? It's real time insights and information delivered in your own customized view of the market. It's Smarter Trading Technology Legiti for smarter trading decisions and it's only from fidelity open an account today at fidelity dot com slash trading fidelity brokerage services services. LLC MEMBER NYSE SIPC. The more ready. You make come back. You asked me that question. Last week. Should be absolutely not now became is changed because as yesterday we got a statement by. I'm talking about Simon Property. Group's takeover of Taubman centers one of the Premier Shopping Wall Anderson America for fifty dollars infancy says in cash per share sure that was a fifty one percent premium with stock was trading. It's a monster bid one. That's generous to a fault or at least it looks chairs Italian sock blue right through PRUITT fifty to fifty s now fifty three and change passengers their shareholders. Who want more from Saima or perhaps there's another bitter lurking though? That does seem unlikely. I have no idea. Nia why Simon's paying such close premium but chairman president. CEO Davidson Music knowledged of the industry. And if he thinks it's a good price who am I to criticize it. Is I think the big bid may be recognition of just how cheap this whole groups become and they are cheap even after the Taliban sells well it's sports at five percents you. Why do I call this a statement by because when you listen to the cops call in the merger here Simon Talk about how can fund the deal as he says quote without ever going to third party financing in quote more importantly he's not giving away his precious equity? Danny Simon continues quote if you look at the multiple of earnings ebay. Todd NASA can you Eddie metric you one we are undervalued. I've noticed sorry. She stopped at the start thinking. Hey that's a staggering indictment of the stock market's inability to correctly that he's Simon stock versus assets. I think it's way down but the real estate investment trust ETF's because Hamas the best players in the industry it's paid out a staggering. Thirty three billion dollars indifferences time but a poorly performing fund will crush the good with the bad now Taubman's largely collection the finest malls. I literally block from walk to the Mall Short Hills. Well there's been turnover at the morning and even more meat as an anchor populist suspect because that ugly balance sheet it still destination with going to. They've got a fabulous set of form learn of high informed especially stores Best Apple Retail Alad. I've ever been to and I think that says a lot that's it I think he's more reach get judged. Based on their weakest kissed tenants they have seven that belong to once large a large companies. That have gone too small for me to mention on the show three award. Taylor's and for macy's always places are not so hot but Simon says the replacements these stores that are really fantastic. That's his term. I think he's got something big upper sleep because he was able to capture forever twenty one in bankruptcy you really wonder along with Brookefield property proper smart guys and authentic brands role. What these guys are really smart? A pages eighty one million. I thought that nothing. There's got to be something up their sleeves. Authentic likes brand value so they must see something. Simon Brookefield could stand to make a lot of money. They can lease these properties for much more than they would have gotten from forever twenty one. Now put these together and you can see a picture of determine in smart real estate. Visionary who thinks stock is too low despite the pearls of brick and mortar in Amsterdam world. Simon is an alternative the stores that are close. And if he's right that he can bring in better stores getting out of these contracts for retailers. I think it'd be huge win. So why is it so important besides just thinking Simon Stock is team. Because you know what there's another group that's right for for similar kind of consolidation. Yes talks the fossil fuel stocks have collapsed. But as I pointed out recently and repeatedly I well I think they're uninvested. Able I think they can do something to help themselves if an oil CEO who believes in the industry wants to put his money. Where's mouth is it's time to stand up and make a statement by like David Simon's died the longer we don't get one in the more likely date or you? Stocks deserve to be down. So we'll someone stand up and play simple Simon. The clock is ticking. The bell is tolling toiling for for the entire oil and gas. Is anyone listening stick tomorrow kickoff. The trading day was squawk on the street live from post nine at the NYSE. See and David. I do not think who was going to buy. That's what Dakyns start. It didn't know did well. I just killed a story meeting at four. Four blaming that's where it started all grain. Okay I'm GONNA do a hostile take over you. It all starts at ninety Easter. How can we tell when this raging bull market could be ready to lose steam now? We've had a phenomenal right. The average surgeon your new highs in spite of the corona virus outbreak. Could we do for. Everyone's asking me now. WE WANNA be. You can't be emotional about this. Which is why we're going to take a more quantitative empirical approach? We're going off the charts with the help of Bob Marino Marino. Now Bob is a brain technician who happens to be my colleague get real money dot com where I blog. He's also the publisher of trading dot com now in recent years bomb. Arenas been having some real good calls. She's nailed some big ones. So let's just review his history. I want you to take a look at the daily the S. and P. Five hundred. This is what we've got here right. Remember in December of two thousand eighteen when the whole market was breaking down everyone was terrified. Remember this the Federal Reserve kept telling us they had to destroy the economy in order to save it will. The panic was Powell. But Bob Marino wasn't panicky his indicators told him that the S. and P. Five hundred her was likely near a bottom and that's what he told us. This is a total home. Run Call as a market bottom weekly one last precipitous precipitous drop. I know I used. Ah I use it because I just thought that Bob really had dale the near the five hundred caught fire and we had a terrific v-shaped recovery through the first couple months twenty one thousand nine hundred the best kind nine people made fortunes during that period. How do we know that the payments almost over because he took a longer view when you zoom out late two thousand eighteen decline look less like the end the world more like a garden variety resell officer from talking to you about market consolidated? Some huge gains the fear. Oh my the by fantastic then. Roughly your go Out Party get last. February commentator started having doubts about the rally. I don't know if you remember that but the really really frightened. So what he did was he figured it out and he figured it would fail. Marino told us to be cautiously optimistic though and said the SNP would only take out its highs at twenty nine thirty every levels. He told us to spectrum multi-month period of consolidation perhaps all the way through till September. Why because that's historical pattern? You get a big move in. The market needs to trade sideways to Digest. Those gains turns out that was eerily accurate prediction. We got seven the months of consolidation in the middle of last year. You can see it in the rising triangle. That's the pattern that people call it that the SP makes a series of higher lows under ceiling of resistance. It three thousand two fifty ceiling higher lows okay but eventually the market does what marina predicted addict. It breaks out and resumes. Its Long March higher. This time it came up with a new forecast told us that based on the size of the triangle pattern he expected yes impeded working the thirty three hundred level now. Those technical twos aren't perfect. Because in October he also saw a number of indicators turning negative so he got a lot more bear she got this one wrong. I love the fact that a guy admits he wrong. It's wrong as you said as he sought the NBA another triangle pattern. This time he expected a breakdown rather than a breakout in the that was indeed. Need a mistake. The test is important and we got yet another distant. Have another upside okay. Still you got to respect the fact that he made this big call and he got this call so his track record I think is real good of last year so now at the. SMP's cleared his long-term upside targeted. Three three three. Oh with points to spare by the way where is it headed. Can other some really wants to do something a little different. He's GONNA use the daily chart. I'd never seen this one on the daily charter. The equal weighted S. and P. Five hundred index the normal SNP weighted by market capitalization meaning gigantic companies like Microsoft Apple Amazon. Have a lot of heft basically the normal. SNP skewed in favor of the biggest of the big which we know have been red hot equal weighted version the SNP gives all five hundred stocks in the same way they have it as the Bernie Sanders. I read it looking at the ink weight as some people because it's more accurate. Representations of the market's underlying dynamics. So what does this picture. I witnessed only just now testing. It's January hi just now trying to get back there. I'll get unlike the P.. which is already broken? Two new high on top of that last week when you're on the spot what's known as evening star pattern new patent for me me. This is a three day formation. First you get a large update then you get a sedate day where the question closes not far from where it open and finally get a large down day well and evening star pattern represents a transition investor sentiment from bullishness to a more neutral stance often to outright bears which is WII wildly widely considered to be reliable bearish reversal signal however after the swing. ESPN over the last couple of days. Something like the patterns wrong. I mean. Jeez we're in a confusing views moment. Aren't we but most poorly. Maria have noticed that the equal weight. SMP is currently consolidation channel with a clearly defined ceiling resistance. I'm forty eight hundred where it peaked in GIN and included. If I'm floor of support if forty-six hundred where bottom during recess off if the break out above that Selena Tale Marino that the markets got more room to run his measured who've taken techniques. Just that it could then rally no. The four percent breaks out of this on the other if the equal weight s and P he bounces off the resistance and can't get through that he thinks you'll see a return to the floor of support at forty six hundred which is down four percent from here. This would drag the normal market cap at some point. Five hundred down to and if that floor forces hundred doesn't hold the next support level is the two hundred day moving average which is down seven percent from year nine percent decline in the market cap weighted s and P and. That's an. Ouch understand. Not Saying that. We've gone dividend. Br break to any saying that were important. Decision Point for the market and giving them much which we've run will the risks were isn't in your favor if you just let it ride if you don't take something off the table which is how I feel you should. That's what we talk about all the time. When I meet with our actions could walk him? We take off. What can we take all? We Wanna be disciplined sheets but the bottom line if you wanna get a read on this market Ranger Inter says you should stop watching the five hundred which distorted by the huge rallies and the trillionaires like Amazon. Instead you gotta focus when the equal weighted S. and P. Five hundred the the charges interpreted by Marino just that we could go either way here although the potential downside if things go wrong might be larger than potential upside. If things go right which is why I say you should trim a little bit not a lot but you should win a win a bit. I WANNA go to Nancy in Maine Nancy. I am I'M A LONG-TIME LISTENER and I've been in the market for over thirty five years while my my question is about stock splits. They were common up until around two thousand. But I haven't seen this within my portfolio since ninety. There's a reason the big companies were convinced by the large institutional traders that if they're going to buy stock as a penny or two betty to three cents three cents per share. It'd be much it's better for companies. Just don't split their stock. It's a complete cave in to the big guys to the big funds and leaving me thinking. Well that's just great now. We can't buy a couple of shares. We have to buy a fraction share. Thank heaven some of the Bronx over and fashions chair. But it's the big institutions prevailing until you don't split your stock we you don't want to pay that much per share you gotta help us in. They are and it's really a betrayal. The Little Guy Christo Sin Connecticut at least Christos about Professor Jimmy to how how calendars that is this gentleman. What's very much decor not Jimmy? Chill my wife says. I'm not Jimmy show but I don't care my daughter says I am. Let's Go Jim last year. I may twenty seven percent of my portfolio folio. I did it like mine. Increments and selling an incumbent address walk final fantasy doing my homework other companies on perfect starting December and up to ten days ago I checked spelling to the point that I'm actually eighty five percent cash while fifteen percent stuff Rome early up four point point one percent year today and I bought for the first time last Friday the shoes when the market dropped. Okay point should I hold or should I start right by you. Don't have enough stock. I think the market's going to come down and you'll be able to build positions. I don't like that little stock in that much cash because I still think the market represents a a great alternative. I totally get it. I know that a lot of people feel that. The market's going to park fast but I think we're still okay and that the discipline is try. Yeah to keep some socks on. I want you to call up and buy more or the way down. Right guys weren't important decision points in the walking you keep your eye on the equal weight. Yes and be five hundred. That's much that is really probably the best indicator right now. Hey more money at including my with the Columbia sportswear after warmer winters. Backfield joke on Jimmy. Chill I should know then. It's a company that could help with the development of a corona virus vaccine. What could it mean for the stock who the CEO of Charles River laps and all your calls rapid fire? Tonight's dish lighting ramp to stay with Kramer even after the sport gets spectacular. Run there are still born is is out there. I know what to look for him. Not Everything's making new. Highs day after day take Columbia sportswear the apparel company. You might also recognize Israel mountain hardware and prime among other brands. It's a brand that we use all the time at home last year. Columbia searched the triple digits but then the Stock Pete and spent the last six months trending lower. It's now out them. Nineteen bucks from its highs. But fortunately there's a reason for underperformance. This company was the big loser from the trade war they source a lot of merchandise and China and then they had too much inventory. In the second half Fletcher for getting hit with warm weather which is not great. When you're selling outta where report last week the company delivered a very good? I'd say top and bottom line beep the fourth quarter order but they paired that with. Yes some kinds. That was light for the coming year. The forecast was particularly dispiriting because it doesn't even include the krona virus related disruptions irruption. That could be happening. And that's what the stock got hit forty four percent but now wait a second. This is a terrific brand so the question's been punished enough doesn't represent real value. Oh you got to take a closer look with Tim. Boys the chairman president. CEO of Columbia Sportswear get better Riedel quarter and wears copy said Mr Boyle. Welcome back commit money. Thanks Jim it's great to be with you I him. I want to extend my condolences. You as you said in your conference call you did lose. News are one tough mother who had a pretty good mantra. Didn't she is a matriarch. Yeah you know. It's it's unfortunate. And she she had a great run. I mean you know. Ninety five is a big number. She actually came to work almost every day up till maybe six months or so before she died so you know her her her Persona and her way of looking at things how she and and frankly I ran the business together Hopefully we'll continue and I know that we're going to continue to rely on her her thoughts and mantra about you. Know it's perfect now just make it better For a long time she never seen quality did she know I mean. That's that's how you differentiate yourself as we've talked before nobody needs another brand of footwear apparel there plenty in the globe to satisfy almost every need and so what you have to have as a point of differentiation and for us skirt personified that as well as you know the the other innovations that we rely on heavily but our brand is strong. All of our brands are strong. And we're just GONNA rely on keeping our heads down working heart. Okay so I. I know that when you're making beautiful and it's tough and rugged as you take it does help out a couple of cold days and if you don't then it's not top of mind. Do you think he just weren't top of mind. What did manage to be a pretty warm from winter so far well you know we talk about this a lot inside the company? Because we've been doing this kind of work making seasonal products products for about forty years. So you know if we had been up against a really super cold weather last year you know our numbers probably still look pretty good But you have to have cold weather had allowed a where to to make seasonal products. And frankly that's the reason we have such a strong balance. Sheet is to make sure that we're in the business a long longtime we've got the capacity to to make to whether any kind of storm or or lack thereof and really. That's how we rely on making good product and having it be available and but it does help if the weather is very cold and snowy to some degree. Even though you couldn't tell from the numbers you know a little bit of a perfect exorbitant was tough for you. You do a lot of business in China. We had the corona virus. Not sure that's going to impact yet and you also source some in China. Can you speak to the the China problems in China opportunities. Certainly well You know almost any company anywheres their supply chain ain't goes through China so we're not different from others We do have a business selling product in China it's mid single digits. component of our total title revenues. And you know our our first focus on when we're talking about. The Corona virus is really making sure our employees and our partners partners in China are healthy and and taking care of themselves and I can reply report that they are that have been said We really don't know the impact packed of the full full impact globally because we have China tourists visiting our stores in in Beijing in In Tokyo Jio Here in the US and Canada and other places in the world so it's hard to quantify exactly what will happen But as is it relates to the supply chain. You know any country that can build to hospitals in ten days will quickly recover from from impacts and Our expectation is that once. This settles down That quickly Bring close to normalcy to the to the business. Are Your factories open. Some of our factories are open when we talk about Production that's destined for the US. Only a small percentage of our of our total production from China comes directly from China into the. US There is a larger percentage that goes globally but the biggest impact is on the supply chain and 'cause garments and footwear products that we make all have at least some impact from China production. There are factories that are that are coming back online after Chinese New Year as you know China almost completely shuts down during Chinese New Year so there was an extended period of time where we made sure that our Our employees and our partners employees were were well organized and and safe but some of the factors coming back online. Now some are working at home but but There has been some movement to open these factories or does seem to me that The Times that I've seen warm weather hurt you not to China pop the weather. It's always been a time to buy not sell people like to buy it when it's freezing. They should be by ant right when it's been when you're in. They're buying the company money because you know that it does. There's get cold again sometime. It does and we got to disparage the investing community but when it snows in New York City our share price goes up until that's typical God or we'll look again. Sorry for your loss. What a titan? She was a one tough mother. I like that and that's Tim Boyle he's chairman president. CEO commies greatest sir. Thanks Jim you buy it when it's warm you can sell when it's cold but don't buy it when it's freezing monies back. It is time the Super Bowl and the lightning round is over are. Are you ready Scheme GonNa Light Rail. Ilia Yeah New York. Yeah Yeah Jayme occur. Dave thank you thank you facebook by okay. It's Alpha downgraded today. I really set some negative things I I think about. FACEBOOK is being is incredible growth engine over the long term inexpensive chart van instagram. Good bye if it goes down below two hundred. We sold some. I'm high fraction alerts for the club. I will bite. I want to try to buy it back. Lower let's go to David Arizona days. Hey Jimmy chill going chul-man is good. How `bout you ain't GonNa under thanks as quantity and to get your thoughts on the EM? Where is done? A lot of virtualization was H was mentioned. Many times or many calls about ways to be able to make it to the data center is more efficient. We have sanjay putting on all the time. I think the stock the. Let's go to New Jersey aiden. Hi this is Karen. EDENS MOM Hold on here gate. And he's fifteen hold on. Hi Mr Cramer I'm I'm from New Jersey The stock I have a question on is Amkor Technology Inc corporated Ticker symbol am Kr.. God I'm sorry sorry about yesterday. I had seen the incident and pretty well in the earnings today. So I was up around let me see. There's a couple of dollars I thought I did pretty well. Twenty nine dollars your thoughts on it. Look I ah the White Fish. Stocks fugitive for dessert. He's gigantic. It was a classic beaten race in the semiconductor factory industry. And you've got to go I. I don't think it's done But don't chase don't chase because his stock went up more than ten percent today and how you like to be in your call. Let's go to John and Ohio John. Hey Jim big old buoy up from the Miami of the bed with Cleveland Ohio Day. Go time listener. first-time caller my dad and I go back and forth about this. Rit All the time. And I'd like to get get your opinion so one of the largest excuse me largest mortgage real estate investment trust and they pay ten percent annual dividend the company has a now lead capital medically capital. They are a lot of different kinds of pieces of paper and they arbitrage and it's fine they got a nice yield. And it's done okay but I just feel like in the end I like growth and it doesn't have it. I invest in stocks for growth. Go to Sam to Sam. Thank you Mr Mr Kramer for everything you do that you can share your thoughts on agile it Dumbo. A I have liked tested. Measurement and the added life sciences for ages. This this this was up. I know it I know it ramped up and then came back down I am. I would be a buyer right here of letter. A Matt and Florida Matt. Hey Jim thanks for taking my call. Course wow like that. What's going on virus years down the road four carnival? PTO I Look I think the numbers are too what let the estimates these cruise ships are just as cruises to nowhere now. I am very concerned. I don't want to be involved with that stock right now and that laser conclusion of the lightning round is sponsored by td Ameritrade some stocks. Just don't know the meaning of the word. quit look at Charles River labs. Simliar Sierra L.. The contract research organization that gives universities and Bio Pharma companies the tools they need to discover new drugs and clinical trials. Right right down to elaborate. I walk into. This isn't forms dealer to the pharmaceutical industry. So in the drug stocks went out of style last year Charles River to buy last November. The stock was trading the on twenty but then the whole Pharma Compass Maroon back by last night Charles River was back up to one fifty seven and then we came in this morning in a blowout quarter solid revenue beat with the huge earnings beat management gave us very bullish forecast for twenty twenty. And that's why. The stock caught fire surging. More than fifteen dollars nearly ten percent today to record record high territory Alexander Blair birthday president so can the thinking climbing. Hey let's think of it. Jim Foster the chairman. CEO of Charles River labs to learn more about this triplet quarters. Companies Practice Approximates district foster. Welcome back the money always great to be here to tell you one of the few people I know that has real demand. I mean. Not manufacturer factor to me but real demand to the point where you have to do a program called cradle where you're literally expanding around. The country areas like Cambridge areas. Like South San. YEAH FOR CISCO WHY is it that you have so much business. The the drug companies are growing exponentially a biotech companies Growing by the thousands. They have no internal capability and the big pharmaceutical companies dismantling their own internal capability. And so so when we set up these cradles which these sort of incubator sites in Cambridge mass and we just opened one in South San Francisco close to a whole cadre of of small growing in biotech companies and a few large Pharma companies. Use our space to to do this. Study are people Work on the on the studies would there's and it's it's A way for them to expand their capabilities in a way for biotech not to make that initial investment. When they I just starting out in watching the cash I know that a AH transcript didn't go into this as much as I would like? Would you describe most of these companies is trying just oncological nature. Let's say the vast majority of the work being done now is an oncology and they're obviously have been enormous breakthroughs and in college because of immunotherapy and now with the advent of selling gene therapy. There probably will be more. But there's a fair amount of work and see cardiovascular work and and inflammation so it's across multiple multiple therapeutic areas the innovation that's coming out of biotech right now is really stunning and they continued to be the discovery engines for the big pharmaceutical industry. Dan Making the world a literally a healthier place for all of us a lot of people because of the Cronin virus. Think we've got all these great companies got these great drug companies. They can just turn the research on a diamond. Come up with something. That is clearly not the way the former industry works it but I I think biotech companies are smaller and more focus typically working on a single indication and so often with a smaller a number of people that can move more anymore. Agile fashion A lot of the drug companies so much larger. They obviously have significant breakthroughs clues as well but the combinations of the big drug companies often doing the funding and the biotech companies. Actually doing basic research is working very well. So you're seeing a lot of collaborations you'll also see a lot of big drug companies. Not Kin with the drug is actually discovered or where it comes from. As long as somebody has a drug -able target and then in the Pharma Company can buy the company by the drug a work with them to get to market. So you're seeing enormous collaborations between farmer and biotech academic centers as well and companies like Charles River in the middle of it. All helping them refine their cost structures. Speed up the process of getting drugs for market okay and allowing them to do. oftentimes more with less and our goal is to take a year the drug discovery process which is That would be very powerful. We would be very proud of that. And in addition to work and eighty five percent of the drugs last year if we can get More drugs to market faster that's extremely beneficial and says the drug companies billions of dollars in time and online. I WANNA again. You put a number in there. I think is kind of shocking. You're involved L. with eighty five percent. I mean that is as close to monopoly as you can get well you know. We're we're very proud of that number. We work really. We've worked really hard to get there. We built this big portfolio products and services. So we're more holistic solution for our clients. I would say as best recruiting tool. We have people that want to come and work across a whole portfolio of drugs for a lot of different companies to work for a company that worked on almost all. The drugs were approved last year. I think really lights up workforce we recruit some people out of big Pharma and biotech academia. Who Want to be close to that you? You also have to think about the fact that we worked on a bunch of drugs that never got to market and that's an equally important. It's an equally important UH activity that were involved in by helping them helping them kill the drug earlier in the process. Okay so Jim Oh what can we talk about China for SEC. What I saw that you have China you have this rather small mug detected business? What I worry about is is that when you mentioned Asian China? It's really about making sure. The operation works are the Chinese. I wish I were reading this that the Chinese have come to us and say could you help us solve it. Yeah well I mean I. Chinese operations work really. Well you know we have a research model business there and microbial solutions business stand with regard to research models really helping educate the whole Chinese market on the value of high quality research models to develop their drugs. I think we can help. Elevate the whole craft there and and help them move move forward in a much more expeditious fashion. They've been using lower quality research miles so It's GonNa be a very big drug discovery and development market obviously for a very large population. And so we're looking forward to continuing going to make a difference in China. Excellent all right. That's Tim Foster chairman. CEO Charles labs congratulations thrown. Just a remarkable quarter great run. Thanks you when you have eighty five percent of the market you can have good gross mortgage. You'RE GONNA make a lot of money for your shareholders. Go a lot of good. And that's Charles River lots. I have liked this stock for more than one hundred points. 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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 04/02/19

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 04/02/19

"Brought to you by fidelity where decisions are clear and costs are lower than ever. Learn more about our industry leading value and open an account today at fidelity dot com slash trading. Fidelity brokerage services LLC member NYSE SIPC. My mission is simple to make you money on here to level the playing field, all investors. There's always work at summer, and I promise to help you find it may have money starts now. Crame won't have money. Welcome to Klay, Mark. I'll be wanna make fence is trying to make some money. My job such just entertainment educate. Teach put it in context. So call me at one hundred seventy three CBC or tweet me at Jim Cramer. Let's talk about euphoria. And by that. I mean, the fabulous fabulous lack of you for it. Yes. The lack of you for you in this market. Let's talk about lift if too placid day with the Dow back sloops have nine points. He hasn't been inched up less than one basis point. Nasdaq actually Vance point two five percent. I think the decided lack of enthusiasm for the stock yielded is lift is one of the best things best things that's happened to this market in ages. And no one saying this, but listen up first of all, I know I got it more. I've had to play welcome all with the haters because last week I said lift could be a good trade shortly there after the stock fell disastrously through it's awful price, even as the rest of the market perform well lift was decidedly a dud. Initially. I was too focused on myself. Whereas my wife constantly says, you always think it's all about you. Hey, she's not wrong. It's kind of a wives theme, plural. Once I got over the fact that underwriter JP Morgan allowed lift stock to slice through the Seddon offering price like a dewalt buzzsaw th-wa stickle in lakes. I realized that wait a second. You know, what this be huge positive for the more was grizzled? Then I used to trade with I figured out that the collapse of lift is a powerful sign that there's no irrational exuberance here. We found the enthusiasm is constrained for this market investors behaving rationally that's not what I expected week ago. It's what I was most worried about remember all these abuse. I think this might be fantastic. Now why like lift is a play on the turbo charge of the ridesharing business. I also know that Susie a ton of money not Bolivia's as a commentator. My job is to help you try to game the gamers, which means figuring out what the big accounts will do because they're the ones who move stock prices with their buying and selling with lift I thought the rarest in good Java parson, you the stock meaning the money managers. They allocated to withhold their shares rather than. Dipping them. It. Looks like aimed at wrong. On me. Now, there was some rationalists. Uber's the opening trading. I I heard lift could begin trading at eighty bucks. That's final seven dollars for that. I heard eighty four eighty five that's getting up there. Next thing. You know, I'm hearing it can be neither even one hundred. And that was way way too. I could have been a Facebook like disaster. Then the underwriters Lee some the portfolio managers who promised to hold onto the stock because they didn't want to lose control the IPO process. But it was really too late. It drove lift back through eighty-seven, which I said, it was a good opening because a lot there and that crazy spike to one hundred but the damage was already done lift was in we can smallholders purchase the stock using market orders, not limit orders. Which is exactly the opposite of what I always tell you to do you the sellers go on the offensive and after a stand as was. At eighty bucks lift had a total breakdown. The bids they got obliterated the underwriters in here. I'm talking about Jp Morgan seem to make a half hearted attempt to stabilize the stock around the IPO prices that didn't work either. Now at this is sixty nine dollars stock, which means anyone who got in on the deal has lost money. And the raiders did even try to stabilize alternate. Let find it so natural level so to speak. They were lucky. The stock dropped a sixty six box twenty two points from where traded just the other day, but closed at the sixty nine levels still well below the seventeen dollar pricing. What's so great about that? If a lot of people lost money, and I don't like people losing money. I'll tell you what's great about it. Listen going into the lift IPO. You know what? My biggest fear was it was at the deal. Go off without a hitch that would encourage pounds here. Casper. Slack pinchers. Uber to rush to the markets up all the excess money sloshing around because these countries want to take it while and take its good. And that's why warn you that. Flood of new deals could swamp the stock market with too much supply, particularly because much of the demand would normally be from index. In these aren't in the index. So they won't be now that's much concern for me after the disaster. That was lift now, can you imagine discussions between the brokers, and he's private companies most of which are losing money just as fast as lift. I bet the berkshires saying look unless you wanna lift on your hands unless you wanna look like idiots. We're going to get things under control we aren't going to Lao these big first day pops. Instead, we go into state the market at a level where we we can control it and the companies will greet. They don't want to be too greedy failed with lift, hey, maybe people would want to ride with Uber now who put with you ever thought of that. It's a really bad idea to have what happened with you may have liked with. And then you lost money in the deal. And now you're switching Newbirth exact opposite of what lift what it? So what happens now how about the preservation of the bull market yet? Both had the die from exuberance not we they get slain by excessive stock supply and a shortage of analytic rigor, not a sober reflection botch, lifting lift scourges, the IPO animal spirits detect opposite nineteen thousand nine that was the most IPO market. And of course, it led to this. Credible. Top in the NASDAQ. I'll go on separate when I see the anger on Twitter from people who got burnt lift. And of course, then blame me because I'm easy target. Not the syndicate head of J P Morgan or the investment bankers faceless investment bankers accorded the deal faceless to people. Right. They don't who knows what they look like other. We see him at the club. I know this is going to be total curb your enthusiasm moment, you know. We haven't fallen victim for. But I'm getting this much hate mail only, I would masochist, but actually like that. Bringing on right? And that's what you're not supposed to say. That's what Bush said I say hit me again. Now, it's not just the Liffey ask. Oh that makes me feel more positive. You'll all you've cut this coal thing with the love canal. I'm sorry with Walgreens, it's actually more smells more like the Guam's canal used to here's a drugstore chain that just ridiculous queer one. That showed the company is totally oblivious to pretty much every major retail trend out there. Also, every healthcare tread out there from their insistence to continue to sell tobacco. Hey, maybe they ought to get some of those jewels. You know, like the winner green or the gummy gills, you know, the ones that are like peeps or Easter reference or in the USA clients in prescriptions and the front of the store sales. It was pitiful. I mean, it was horrible. It was really is. Maybe one of the worst covers because they are they should've pre-announce number one of the conference. Call management repeatedly talked about digitisation. Are you kidding me? What were you? So far behind aren't even know what their channel strategy is. Now, I understand how the government one. Reimbursement. Cut back. I understand that Morgan's was caught up against different compared devote comparisons. Because that aleisha is called the flu season. I even get why they could make as much money on genetic trucks. But let's face it. The front of the store is getting crushed because customers simply aren't coming in the door. Like, these why one word Amazon. Yep. All my, Costco, WalMart or target or Home Depot. Wallgreens has no strategy for dealing with the death star retail even CVS at least acquired choir to choir quired EDNA. Although we know that has worked out exactly at the stock was down another two bucks. Larry merlo. Thank you for coming on always the chain that wanted theranos labs thorough. No slabs. Yeah. It all eighty two hundred stores. We lose with homes. Oh, I understand -gratulations in order. I mean best wishes down they distinguished themselves as lift of drugstore chains. Now, like, they're Beth and beyond. I have no idea how to save this month. But I don't for sure that buying back three point eight billion dollars. The stock is not the answer, especially when your own CFO won the comfortable admits that your cash flow was pretty rocky. I like the idea of in store clinics CVS is doing that. But in retrospect, I don't think our nose in store clinics and all stores what to say it might have been ill advised. Sure, there's bizarre good news today from an unenthusiastic place. None other than Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg nailed his ninety five feces to the bed pays at what he bows talking about. Al is company is no longer a higher gun. Well, that's how the stock could rally more than five bucks benign push from Deutsche Bank. Now Facebook's loved their saints. But here's the bottom line. We had a rash of lack of exuberance for lift a loss-making company that seemed like it would be red hot. At least to me. I thought it would work. I didn't or as those incredible stocks sages outcast. Yes. Al kiss so eloquently put it now. What's cooler them being cool ice cold? This was ice cold. And that's great news for the rest of the market. Because a flood of hot IPO's is the last thing is the last thing the bulls need, hey, I want to start the cost with Joanna in Maryland Joanna. Hi. Excellent. How about you Joanna awesome? I have my son of Robert here who has a great question for you. But yeah, Jim awfully finish the failing consumer science class in school where I learned all about the stock market. I wanted to try trading stocks somebody on so I asked her brokerage account for my birthday for my grandparents. My grandfather love your show and told me to start watching it to learn what starts might be a good investment. I know you really like at one so far I thought several shares of apple stock. But now, I want to know if you think that Ford is a good investment. Well, first of all this kid's got worse sense. Right. Thank you. Thank you grandfather's palm afford. They had the expert expeditious making a ton of money for them, the Lincoln navigator speaking of a ton of money for they have big this super duty make money from. But at the same time, they have always other business around the world. So I'm going to have to say we're going to pass right now. And thank you Joe and wanted to oh my God. I guess from two thousand three it. Sure does seem like it. All right in the end. We had a ration lack of exuberance for lift let me some sugar partner. It was just a cold. And that's great news for the rest of mortgage. Oh, man tonight. I'm hopping behind the wheel for test drive off tesla or these textiles while the drive is like fine might take stock that you won't believe this honest, you'd better stick around. And after twenty percent drop on Friday coming might look like it's need of a restoration itself. Almost boiling what led to this? Keep the client and telling you how compares to its peers too. I just base and why yesterday's move has nothing to do with what's happening here at home. Theranos stick around. Don't miss a second of mad money. Follow at Jim Cramer on Twitter. Have a question. Tweet Gramer hashtag mad tweaks sin Jimmy mill to mad money at CNBC dot com or give us a call at one eight hundred seven four three CNBC miss something head to med money. Dutt CNBC dot com. Hey, I'm John Harwood host of CNBC's Speakeasy podcast. Listen into my in depth conversations with political decision-makers, folks. Like, John Delaney, the first declared democratic presidential candidate for election twenty twenty along with Senator Sherrod Brown. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Stephanie shrieks of Emily's list. Those interviews and more on the Speakeasy podcast. Subscribe today. When everybody else is at their most emotional craze moments. That's when you need to be at your most impure, surgical when Wall Street's afraid, take deep breath and try to push things from a more logical, quantitative perspective, and Trump would've stocks trading. Wildly based on fear. Okay. And hope. The best thing you can do is to remove your feelings from the equation. So how do you make that happen? Why got one way you fall back on the charts technical now says far from perfect some would argue that it's the stock market equivalent of astrology. But it gives you a prison that's based on the impure call observations, and that is always going to be worth a lot. It's part of the mix. And that's why we're going off the charts for the help of Bob Marino. He's a brain tissue happens to be my colleague at real money dot com where I blog Malta Tunis hours of the day. And of course night as well as being the publisher of right view, trading dot com. Okay. Right. Trading marino. Call the Marco white bottom into several just everybody else was really just panicking one of the reasons about back. So you gotta pay close attention when he says that. Oh, man. I hesitate to even say this is not my recommendation. Okay. He says that tesla. Tesla electric car maker with the seemingly unhinged CEO. And evolve stock could be ready to rebound here. Are you listening on three in the morning when you told me I couldn't take the heat get this? I am agree with you one thing I'm putting on a shortest who likes your stock. You haven't read a likes Tesla's stock? That's been put through the Meco under recent months companies revolutionized little issue. But right now, it's plagued by endless worries. I mean, you've got founder and CEO Elon Musk just begging to be held in contempt of court last year, we agreed to a settlement with the SEC. We're Tesla's supposed to vet all this tweets about the business that yes, he claims there's this whole pre approval process, and it was this sham. He now it's up to a distinguished Jewish. Judge Allyson Nathan of Philadelphia on Thursday to hold must accountable, and there's a real chance to tesla could lose its visionary CEO. That's going to be a courthouse in the southern district of New York. I'm predicting Circus Maximus say what you will about you on must. He may have the self control say of a toddler, but he's got a fabulous has. Showmanship and a lot of people own the stock because they believe in his leadership. On top of that later this week the company's going to announce production numbers for its new model. Three fill the been all over this. That's the mass market tesla giving it this tends to be very valuable stock that data point is super important if the production figures, your straw, the stock can store, especially if you on is not going lose his job if the figures disappointing and he loses his job that I would call that disappointing even with tesla already damn with ninety points from its most recent peak last December, I don't have a lot of insight into the story based on the fundamentals so what can Bob Marino's charts? Tell us. Let's start by taking the long view with Tesla's monthly chart. What you see? Here's pretty straightforward. The stock has been years trading. Very well to find channels infections can be pretty wide. Basically, it's been brains them. Marina points out that in April two thirteen tests broke out above the Cillian, persistence. If forty bucks. At the top of its rage. And then entered a whole new channel right here. If an explosive move higher this stock entered a multi year consolidation period bouncing between two eighty it's high. Okay. And then I'm sorry to eighty it's high and then one eight slow see this. That's just incredible that tight range and then whenever tesla pull back to its four support. It turned out to be a buying opportunity anytime that was a buying up journey now after the stock bottom in December of two thousand sixteen once again pouncing fluid of the range tests broke out to new highs. I was a lot of thought it was a short squeeze. But it worked rally more than one hundred percent of the first two thousand seventeen once getting ready to point something we got more consolidation for the past two years. Stocks been stuck to forty three eighty two forty three eighty two forty eighty. Now, why does this matter because marina believes that the stock has consolidated long enough at its Lozo this month, tesla once again test the bottom of the trading range, and it also Br. Briefly touched its uptrend line. Pretty positive, Dan. This is looking a lot like the the big white belt before the stocks gigantic rally from slows in two thousand sixteen over tier what else nuts Tesla's formed. What's known as a large hammer like candle that means it doesn't have a little thing coming out of it to hammer like that. Okay. That's one of the stock plummets during a single period, but then rebounds to close much closer to where open. This is a classic sign of a bullshit versus a major reason Rena believes that tesla may bought and by the way, we are the exact same pattern last week with Dow I don't know if you saw it bounce back. And then today it kept going how about we zoom in on the weekly chart? This one gives you much closer view of the channel Tesla's been stuck for the past two years in this star. Shell resistance is up at three eighty. The floor supports down around to forty to fifty. Okay. Now Marino points out. In the final week of March. We got what is known as a bluish engulfing candle pattern was trying to give you new patterns. And that's where that's where you get a week where the stocks opening and closing prices. Totally encompasses the entire range from the previous week kind of interesting. Right. All right. So that's an engulfing pattern in this case engulfing candle open near the wolves for the weekend and closed at the high again that is totally bullish Sigler, even though it's really small it's a Bush single people. Meanwhile, check out the slows to Cassie gloss later, the SS te'o important momentum gauge, it helps us figure out what to stock has gotten overbought or oversold tells you when something's could be poised to change directions. When it comes to test players just only just crossing out of oversold territory right now making down maybe two four two fast two for paths. I said do for the bounce chart, but we always have to check the money flow CMF right tool that measures the level by selling pressure. This one recently crossed into negative territory Rio says it will meet the turn positive if tesla. Is going to have a substantial of substantial substantial rally from his Lewis this all in this whole panoply of everything. The only thing that is not in sync is that right there that shake in money flow. That worries me did not seem to really worry that much fondly. Let's get up close and personal with Tesla's short term daily chart. This is very instructive. 'cause I looked at this and was very negative. But he tells me wait a second when the daily you can see the long-term trading range, but awesomeness Tesla's. Recent decline is formed a new downward sloping channel, which the stock seems to be trapped in I thought that was very negative that negative channel to test the back door down to its long-term floor support. However last week. The stock beta terrific comeback, and that's what he's focused on. According to Marino. This resembles action something this is called a MorningStar pattern. Now, get this. This is a pattern. It's a three day formation. First you have a large down day Paul by day where the stock trades and very tight range Paul by big rally while. Often this kind of pattern represents a reversal in investor sentiment. Just like the other ones reversal incentive right here at the sellers. Got washed out the bars started feel emboldened reaonably points out that we saw the same MorningStar pattern when tested bounced off its lows in September and October of last year. Okay. Pretty amazing. Does the MorningStar patterns? And that's why thinks we would do for another substantial bounce. Remember this is unintentional. He's not thinking about the court suit. Nothing about the before here in southern district. He's not thinking about the models. We put numbers on top of that daily charts. Slows to cast the cost later. The assist has started this show some real positive momentum. Here that's very great recently making Bush crossover. That's the black going over the red. Okay. And it's moving above the centerline, which is really important to that. Just tesla may be getting its grew back. So what does the stock need to do before it can war higher here? Other than also have you must not decrease tweeting renaissance says the first hurdle is the ceiling of resistance created by the high end of the negative channel. It's round two hundred ninety dollars k such radio. Up the five bucks from the stocks trading. Tesla can cross that threshold is Betty the stock will fill in the big gap from January and climb to the three four knees. But you ever want to get that right up nearly twenty percent points currently trading, and in theory of the stock could go all the way up to three eighty four runs in the long term thesis. Don't let me give you the bottom line of. What is frankly? A completely contrary view. We know Tesla's been incredibly valuable not Ed tesla. Also, the founders volatile and could reason, but the charge is interpreted by Bob Reno say that it's time to buy this stock. He thinks Tesla's limited downside and substantial upside these levels, my view is a high risk situation. It's too risky for me readers, cut, a great trachman. He needs to be taken serious. But for mitt money had Birger wars. I'll tell you already Wayfair could make a better buy in this market, then the miracle material noon as plastic has made it possible put us more consumers focus on the farm Cal. How plans to address the problem? I'm giving my cake, and we've all been there. It's a two A M. It's to him and you're desperate for a Chiluba. Supreme I'm talking to one tech company. Nate you dreams a reality. So stay with. Kramer. Fidelity you get value. You won't find anywhere else decisions. They're clear costs they're lower than ever and account fees. There's zero so you can invest with zero trade offs open an account today at fidelity dot com slash trading zero account minimums zero counties apply to retail brokerage accounts. Only expenses charged by investments such as funds managed accounts in HSA's commissions interest charges or other expenses for transactions may still apply. See fidelity dot com slash commissions for details. Fidelity brokerage services LLC member NYSE SIPC. Always puts it to when a well run company blindside you by slashing its earnings forecasts in its stock. Yes. Craters? What are we specific? What the heck just happened to our reach the high end furniture chain, formerly known as frustration last party with a brutal guy down. For twenty nineteen on both top and the bottom line. That's the last thing you wanna hear which is why the stock went into freefall RH losing nearly twenty two percent of value. When Friday from one hundred thirty to one or three minute was indeed that bad. Regular viewers know huge fan of RH ended CEO and not just by the way, the stock. I like to shop there too. I even like eat dinner up there. Gary Friedman who takes very long term approach building values done a remarkable job. I love the stores, they'll take art galleries. I love the catalog. I love ecommerce business not as much as yellow because I'm like I like to browse. But man, oh, man. The stock deserved to sell off after that only forecast. So what do you do now with our H? I it's pretty wanna wants down with a sixty bucks ties here. Why don't we drill down? Let's be analytic. I need to understand that. This is kind of a swoon as no stranger to the artist. Formerly knows versus harbor the high end for gene used to be a high flying, gross doc, but then in two thousand fifteen the biz matured in the close started slowing as a result the stock plunge from the triple digits down to the twenties. It's low in early twenty seventeen. However from those suppress levels are H executed a phenomenal comeback. Really was. It was dazzling stock surged back to nearly one sixty five. It's all time highs last June. How the company kept growing store county modernizer catalog position amid locations even weren't icing imagine, and they these already felt more art galleries than retail outlets. Anyway, the Kuch even better when ours stock was down and out the company put back to normal quantity quantity of its own shares done this convertible bond, buy back stock. And by the way, feeding himself did some insider buying of MAG just of magnitude in the mid twenties that made you say, hey, I gotta go by this fast forward Stemmer when we spoke to Freeman from the company's newest most fabulous store, Manhattan stock was selling off because RH had just reported an imperfect quarter gigantic Ernie's beat on top of modest revenue. Miss remember people like sales growth retailers, even as management, raise the full your earnings. Forecasts prince you're battling at the time. He told eight terrific story about the company's long-term growth prospects. So of one room RH reported again last Friday delivered a fifteen cent Ernie speed off a two eighty five basis with weaker than. Elected sales up just point three percent year over year. We know that's barely growth in isolation. Those would have been solid numbers, but management also slashed their full year. Forecasts indicating future will be weaker than they previously expected rent somewhat. Reminiscent of the Walgreens slash j where we thought they were gonna earn maybe high single digits. And then they told us it would be flat. When all right escape. It's Mary twenty nineteen guide some semi they called for eight to twelve percent revenue growth last week. They cut that to three to five percent range. Brutal in December. They talked about earning nine dollars and thirty cents to ten dollars seven cents per share this year last week, they guided down to eight thousand forty one cents to nine nine. Yep. At the midpoint of the forecast, orange cut its guidance by twelve point five percent agonizing. That's a big change for put Friedman told us, I gotta pay play with soon as a sought most retailers just Reconceptualise or evolve the front end of their business. But because it's it's it's hard to run a business, and then kind of change the engines, right? You know, it was like you're flying the plane. We're we conceptualizing the engines and Reconceptualise in the back end, and then we'll pivot back to more accelerated growth next year on what we believe will be the most profitable and capitol efficient platform in our industry by far. Ouch. Been a low of optimistic. Meanwhile, management's projections for the next quarter. We're pretty lacklustre, and they told us they were going to stop breaking out there. Same store sales numbers missing of an apple side. Stop breaking up the number of iphones. They sell. Gary Friedman says they don't use same store sales as a metric to run the business. Way. They don't care whether you buy the merchandise in the physical store from the catalog off the internet. So it's it's actually not an encouraging sign especially for guy like me hidebound. I'd mitt who's been brought up to believe that same store. Sales. Are the be all end all retail. And I totally understand. I totally understand. If Gary thinks that I'm limited. But you know, what I've been around for a long time in same store sales sumit a lot to me, I can't change my stripes. Now now, what was the culprit for H sweetness on the conference? Call national pointed to the continued meet this in their core. Business in the wake of the market's volatility Bryant as well as a negative trends in the high end housing market when you're the businesses selling Pizzi home furnishings, your business tends to take a hit when the housing market and more important the stock market stalls hit by the way from Ethan Allen years ago. And I always kept it in my mind. That's exactly what happened over the course of the fourth quarter four H at the same time some of the sought this is simply because is exiting some west profitable non-core businesses, most of the analysts pounds they had to cut numbers. Even the ones who liked the company, for example, twitch Bank down. Arrangement by to hold up a stinging. They argue this is the kind of high end discretionary retailer that tends to get hammered during slowing economy, especially with the not so hot housing market. They recommended putting RH h in the penalty box for few quarters until the company can establish that they're on firmer footing. That's usually the reason we're sponsoring a company fat fought does such a huge forecast slash. But if you really want to get your head around the story, I think that'd be a little more outside the box fever Burnett. Something to say on the conference call that I found incredibly womb nitty at one point the call got a little contentious with freemen seemingly exasperated the analysts collective failure to understand how compelling his business model is basically saying that they were myopic. So then he starts talking about Wayfair Wayfair outfit. Did my kids by well. One of my kids buy stuff from the rapidly growing online furniture retail with a stock. That's been on fire me, some months previous said, he'd love to have wait first valuation, which of course, as you mangas he'd never want its margins because a lot less profitable than our age. It was a coup comparison as he's planning to suspend freeing years, we built as possible. So they have some of the best operating boards and the business. Listen to this, quote, we're going to probably wind up with operating margins. Long-term that are double what they would have been if we had pursued just chasing sales, and quote, basically even doesn't want to be the biz. This of chasing unprofitable growth just to impress the stock market and the analyst critics who he thinks are short-sighted he's actually trying to turn profit. But that means Alridge gets treated like a values talk while while something like Wayfair is gross dot and gross. Stocks get much much higher valuations. Like, I talked about at the beginning of the show when we're talking about lift really, I don't think this is a fair comparison France way, I bro in its sales at forty percent, plus clip, even as it's earning money, and for now Wall Street treats it like a kind of a baby version of Amazon or h and the other hand gave us just two point seven percent rhetoric. Worthless. Your and the only four kissing three to five percent growth for twenty nineteen. But you know, maybe it's the rule metro or she's been focused on making self leaner meaner opera, which is how the earnings of Caterpillar from a buck twenty seven and twenty sixteen to eight thousand fifty four cents this you just letting credible. I thought it was incredible. But no one seems to want to give the credit for the magnificent profitability, which is why the stock currently sells for just over ten times next year's earnings estimates where do I come now? Ordinarily, I'd has. Tate to recommend any company just flashed guidance. But if you believe the worst is over in our economy and the stock market if you we've housing can start to rebound with lowered straits in the spring weather. If you leave the fed is now, your friend not your enemy now. I think ours has guidance will end up looking too cautious on the other hand, if you really worried about a slow down and all that other stuff I mentioned origins, not the stock for your bottom line or issued some hideous guidance. There's no question. But now that they've lowered the boom on us. I liked the risk were here. This is not Walgreens people I like it, especially if like me you believe our economy orgies bottom. This company is simply a terrific operator. And it doesn't get the credit deserves because management focus on growing earnings rather than growing sales at any cost like Wayfair, I say stop measuring Gary everyday or even every quarter. This is one of the rare rare people that you just gotta let run I think he's worth it. Let's go to Mason in Louisiana. Mason. Hey, Jim first time caller longtime or I love your show that long time. I have a question about four or a couple of key concerned. I I would like to know if you think there's an inverse correlation between the video game industry and the sporting goods industry, particularly sporty equipment sales, simply put as a video game industry grows. More time playing videogames less time pain. Actual sports will g okay sorry. Go ahead. Second is the concern over the slowing growth in North American sales from Nike and Adidas recently recorded. I didn't of this concern is outstanding quarter by Lululemon taking larger slices out of the fame. Sports apparel pie. That also leads from. Earnings report fits announcer, dropping Reebok's after its licensing agreement expires, dude. The focus more on its own privately owned label about this. Let's see about this. I think that that Dick's did not have a great quarter. I think that Lou had an amazing quarter. And I think that Nike had a misunderstood quarter that gives you the best opportunity to buy right now. And I don't think that the pie is shrinking on pleasure. I think it is growing. We love that Mr. mad money. Okay. I get are a slasher series forecast. And that sounds like a scary thing. But you know, what I liked the risk reward here money. Did. Hey, the last drove when it comes to plastic how could it impact doubts profits? Dogwood tell you. I think it's fair then as smartphones mobile moments and self driving cars become more pocket. Accurate information. It's more important than ever like the facts a mile one company is hoping to back on the trend. Don't miss my exclusive with yes, then what you're calling from. Pirates next edition of the lightning round. So stay with Kramer. Because it makes sense disc is CEO about how as products impact the environment. As someone who's trying to help you make money in the stock market. Is there ever reason to deviate from talking about say earnings sales execution this point on squawk on the street, we interviewed Jim federally? He's the superb CEO of the new doubt Inc. The spinoff of doubt to punt which began trading today on the new York Stock Exchange amid it clear list night show, and again this morning that I think Dallas Trivet investment, especially pleased, the global economy still you rebound with the United States and China at leave something I believe I like Dow's prospects both in terms of innovation and it's bound for cash flow that will allow the company to pay a five percent plus dividend. That's the yield. And it's the highest deserves industrial average this business that got spun off as doubting has always been the finest plastic company around and now it's combined the best parts of the old DOW Chemical and DuPont. I'll be even it'll be better. Hey, look. It's no wonder the stock valley five percent today the first day. But after we discuss Dallas, bonafide, he's turn the conversation. Awkward. I have to MIT toward the future. Plastics. What happens if every state outlaws plastic bags like the band that New York approve last week? What if Dell makes plastic that's recyclable, but recycling is on canonic and people just end up throwing the bottles in the trash. What can they do about the great Pacific garbage patch? How can Dow justify well up making this up at all that's going to end up polluting the oceans now, these are not the kinds of questions I would've asked even a few years ago. They didn't seem equation. They were extremists did not on point because they had nothing to do with your needs for shared. They didn't belong in the conversation. But that's no longer. The case. The environment is a mess, and that has real implications for this business. For example. It's crazy to think the paper, what might come back and take market share from plastic because papers biodegradable, you don't need to care about the environment for this stuff to take a toll on your portfolio. What matters is that. There are governments and regulators around the world who do care, which means these issues will directly impact AL's earnings in the not to do we really believe that California, which led the way and getting rid of plastic bags won't soon. Start going after soda companies demanding aluminum glass containers, doesn't it seem like a no brainer youth those to me. So these issues matter to the earnings per share, but more important, they matter to help future portfolio managers will value those earnings, right? In other words, this stuff affects the price to earnings multiple the P E that will pay for the out years because it makes all sorts of businesses more fragile when I speak younger people. I am so impressed by how much they care about the environment. And I'll adamant they are about not us. Plastic. This is not my usual jokes about millennials. I mean, these are good solid. Young people who teach us they'll go to incredible lengths to avoid buying plastic water bottles. They want so badly to stop the abuse of our oceans, some will go as far as saying the plastic is the new coal. So if you're in the plastics business, I'm betting you're stock's price to raise potable shriek overtime as these people become the next generations portfolio managers with Wyatt is imparted now task these questions. Even it would have been totally beside the point or even out of bounds at previous Europe. I think you render self irrelevant if you don't address these issues. Don't don't get me wrong. I think Dalby a good investment. I believe see you Jim fiddling and his company will do their best to be good corporate citizens. But if I don't ask these tough, admittedly awkward questions, I now believe at a mess in nothing more than giving a free pass. And as the late great. Mark canes. Always told me Jim no free passes that money's back. And then they'll lightning round is over. Are you ready? Okay. Okay. Let's go to Michael in for my call. Greetings to the consulting guru of the stock market. Wow. Okay. My question today is. I don't need. We'll share. It's for doing statement on Thursday after the stock market closes. It will be will be a good buy for me, and my portfolio or do I need to pass it by this stuff. Just talk is dilutes deal. Dude. I was doing my game plan. I said, you know, what my fantastic unbelievable photographer here. He is someone who gave me I blue jacket, and I love it and where it constantly. But I cannot gain the earnings. I do not know they do. Although I will say that. That's gold cost bones on solar people think it's a people like how I look at it. Let's to Montas in California Monagas who your Jim from San Francisco tastic. We'll be out there. Klay under he'll of apathy sent announcement of getting into the credit card business. What do you think is in store for MasterCard? Man pulled it off. He's. -ffiliated with the apple. He is. So good MasterCard. Is so good by it. I need to go to James in Missouri. Jim with oil star. Getting why can't they'll catch a big? Because people think it might be in tried takeover. Talks might be by someone chip Johnson's, really good. I agree with you. I can't believe the stock Stanford is, but that's what's going on. It's all about takeover door in Florida Giora. The. Famish Ceuta gold women. You know, I gotta tell you. I look at that company all the time, and it's going to get taken over it is a decent spec. It actually is losing a lot of money. I want you to be fair full. Josh in Washington. Josh. Big from Washington. Appreciate that show for on fol. All right. Due to looking at companies and the different sectors kind of a beginner prospecting Erta guy on CNBC talk about Nucor, which led me to United States deal company. Looks like a pretty fun company to be invested. But you've got to look at the balance sheet, sir. You look at that town with Nucor it is a thing of beauty. And it's got a good yield. At does not have that. It's of course, sales that very inexpensively. And it's been a great growth play. Take a look at how. Well, if center over the years, you've gotta stick with quality and new quirk is quality. And that lays was other. The big round is sponsored by TD Ameritrade. Some of the biggest winners point nineteen or simply stocks is hold up. Wait too hard in the second half last year. They never should have been down so much in the first place. Consider the case. Yes. The cloud based platform that bills itself as knowledge engine provider and planning Lewis. Yes, ensures that all the information, but your company on the web is accurate and up-to-date Zohar that is to do, but they can do it. They also help the client sync up with hundreds of different services from Google maps to Facebook to Siri that make sense of it now. Yes, saw the stock plummet from twenty seven and change last stand at twelve bucks change. 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EPISODE 71

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EPISODE 71

"Podcast network the voice of florida. I heard mrs america and all ships at sea. This is your captain. Taping bean gene gene gene <music> falling. It'd be a test shit towards all. The stone are alarmed a cable arm and tell make attack alarm good morning. Everybody welcome to talk radio episode number seventy one. We're back live on fort myers beach peach timeout. My name is ed ryan. This is the klutzy wife kim ryan and we're going to tell you all about that a little bit later on the show up for it and ndo you're listening live on facebook on youtube on iheartradio spotify on google podcasts and of course we have our own app that you can download from the apple. Oh app store. It's episode seventy-one dear. We're going to bypass last week's episode and i was gonna say yeah. We can't really call this weekend episode because we got totally disconnected acted in the parking lot of a lot of fun though it was a lot of fun great people up there at the jimmy buffett concert and mansfield massachusetts but we'll talk about that later because we have one of our favorite guests with us today. Councilman rain is i guess back from our one week vacation shen and ray. Thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it very much. Thanks for having me nice to be here. How are things going with you. Everything's fantastic can't complain now now. You ran the council meeting last time because <hes> she stalled vacation i know she was traveling the world but she's back. She's is back. We had a couple of meetings this week and she's back in the big seat doing her usual great job. When is the next council meeting. <hes> there's one monday monday monday yes us now. You said you had a you had a couple of meetings but not council meetings right pride committee meetings and things i can't waller was the council and it was was a management planning planning and management and the other one was whatever was okay. Now what's <hes>. What's your shirt there. You've got your shirt with your name on about that. I i've got the team in colorado. Wow nice. I haven't had a shirt with my name on it since i was the best ball around parish team back in the old days nice now. It's a little big on ya. You're losing some weight there. What's going on now. That's the whole idea that big and black living look good. It was good look good with the gray hair now. Is that a shirt that you're gonna wear the council meetings because you get all suited up. You're the only one there that it's like professionally dressed like you're <hes> <hes> you know that's that's the way i like address for. The council meetings <hes> this. This is the out here <hes> i d- i think the <hes> that's just my own opinion about how i dress at the right council. How i think it deserves the that dignities comfortable in yes. Yes always have always will the dignity of the office exactly so ol- let's get right into it. Ray the meeting that we just i just i i i listened to the meeting mostly all the way through but your in in the beginning when you did the invocation was very very nice and very heartfelt and thank you and that was yeah. Did you hear that i don't i did but i don't remember was. It was half like you went. You did your own thing and then you did the yes okay i <hes> i did the first part ad libbed for the for the victims of the shooting victims so forth and then the second prayer was actually <hes> i have younger brother bobby who was a priest a catholic priest at that that <hes> <hes> prayer came from <hes> from his parish. I credit for it. I i <hes> borrowed it and it was appropriate. It was appropriate for the oh sure for the coming. <hes> hurricanes are able to keep yourself together. When you talk about <hes> said things like that. I cannot do it. I mean you're thinking outside of something l. sir to be able to get through it all or just stronger than most people now now. I'm in <hes> you know. I have a heart like everybody else you know you. I feel for those but you just try to plow through and you just do the best you can you try. Not you try to keep it together. I don't wanna i don't wanna stay on this subject for too along. The beach prepared for something like that for if there's some crazy dude with a gun. I don't know if you can never for be prepared for something like that. You know that that that just happens. <hes> unprepared okay. I don't know about well. The guys in the cops in dayton were certainly prepared. I mean thirty eight seconds is is as you can be. They were and that was really an incredible response. <hes> of course that's that's a that's a defined area where the <hes> get together every friday night and over weekends and they know that's the action much like downtown fort myers. I'm sure sure there are a lot of police presence down there. Were a little more spread out down here on <hes> so you know i. I don't see that <hes> that sort of thing happening but i will tell you on my way here this morning. I people say there's no cops on the beach. Well i passed <hes> my seven eleven down by me and someone must have got hit on the bicycle. Oh no we're <hes> <hes> there were three or four cop cars in there with <hes> with all deputies sheriff deputies and wall so with the fire department they are administering interesting to this guy had his head all bandaged up and so forth and i wanna stop i can to keep coming down here and then i passed a little motel you know pass the the catholic church and there were there. Were three cop cars in there. Something happened so there are there are <hes> deputies around here just because they're not right here always right visible. They're close by so they were here this morning and i noticed every. Is this guy here too. We that's a new spot for the sheriff sign the sky thought they i thought that was the camera for this show. I wish someday someday. We have a brand new camera. Hopefully it's not people yeah. Come along with. Thank thank you. It's due to guess like you keep the show going. Keep an interesting thank you so. Let's go back to the council meeting. After the i know you aren't on vacation but the the council takes a month off for people to enjoy the summer and go on vacations and things like that the first council meeting back. You're the the chair because it wasn't back yet and the one of the first things you had to deal with was dead bodies on the beach according to john hyme the water moccasins so when when you hear somebody say their dead bodies washing up on the beach i mean i've seen some dead fish but i haven't come across a dead body. When i'm running it. What what is he. What's what's what's that all about you know. I don't know what that was all about to tell you the truth <hes> there there was a a a gentleman over on captive atv that <hes> had an incident and they couldn't find them and and he did come in with the tie the next morning they found his body up there but <hes> i haven't heard of one here on the beach <hes> so although there was talk there was a rumor about a body but i can't confirm that whether there was or not but <hes> well. I don't know what he was talking. He was talking about the water being so oh nasty that nobody he's trying to scare people so what i what i'm hoping you can do is. Let's set the record straight on the water. Well you know i'm i'm. I'm not an expert on the water but i'm slowly becoming one and <hes> like everybody else and i will tell you that <hes> that fellow that he had there with the amputated leg and i felt naturally you couldn't help but feel for the guy and <hes> and i don't know what his situation was. I don't know whether you went into the water with <hes> an open open moons owns or who knows what an and i'm not gonna make an opinion because i don't know but <hes> but i will tell you that <hes> i'm in that water every day i fish and i'm we've fishermen and i'm up to my knees in the water every day and have been ever since the order cleared up and i've never had a problem and so you know i can it happen. Yes it. Can it can happen here can happen anywhere around the world where somebody will catch an infection in the water that happens but is it a is it a widespread problem album here certainly not you went to the screening of the movie a couple of weeks ago. Didn't you had trouble waters. Yeah that was great. You know <hes> the <hes>. The movie itself was put together very well. Oh yeah and they have a tremendous <hes> panel there <hes> and not only not only are they panel members but a lot of them are the board members on the clues <hes> collusive order keepers board there and very <hes> very talented group very <hes> you know m._d.'s and so forth and they're all doing their studies and their different pieces of it and i was i came away very very impressed by and <hes> i know that <hes> as they said <hes> you know <hes> you know there's good news and bad news. The good news is we're here. <hes> looking at your problem. The bad news is that we're here looking at your problem and <hes> so but i feel much better that <hes> it is being studied by these <hes> these professionals and it's gonna be a comment from somebody. I don't know show dallas shaw dallas. I don't know if you guys know who that is. Out of. Four years. Lots of bodies have been washed up. I i still i don't you know what that means or who who's talking about wash up but i haven't seen a lot of them. Wash up you know this has been a pretty good year. Though in terms of the red tide that has to do with the rain or the way the governor's change things but i remember a year ago we were looking at dumpsters full of fish and all there was a <hes> a guy came up to me at the outrigger about six or eight weeks ago now and <hes> he came up and put his arm round and gave me a big hug and said you know right you campaigned leaned on clean water and by god since you've been elected the ward has been fantastic and i just said thanks to take credit for that and he said of course i do thank you very much but we've been very fortunate this year in in that <hes> we haven't had the storms and so forth and of course they they lowered the lake increasing capacity and and everything else so i mean they know what to do. It's just a matter of doing it and it sounds to me like they're on that <hes> that path now to continue doing what's right next topic <hes> lawsuit against the city moving. I'm looking at you to see if you had any other questions. I i did one before and you took paid ray for the whole hour right ahead so i mean i mean they don't start that again so go back to the point where the gentleman that was there speaking about things that he wanted as far as showers at the beach and you know sign up about the water quality i was a little confused because there are showers at at some of the at the parks so that people can rinse off so i i wasn't sure if if he was saying wants them you know it just sounds to me like you want them everywhere and <hes> <hes> and i guess you know that that doesn't on the surface that doesn't sound bad but <hes> what i usually do as i look around to our other municipalities palliser santa bell look benita look at us all these other communities long beach. What are they doing you know and and i don't see that i don't jose that <hes> you know but <hes> i suppose if it got to a point i mean they've got down the dog beach. They've got <hes> they've got a shower down there for people to to rinse the dogs off off but that's i guess that's that's given and so forth yeah i mean there's the point of rinsing the dogs off because they're all sandy no not necessarily because they're covered in toxic waste so i mean you and as far as the sign i just i was you can go online. There's a lot of websites that will cause i do before i go swimming. I swim in the gulf quite a bit <hes>. I will just check those websites to see you know you know whether it's the noah website are. There's many websites out there. That will say hey. The water was just tested and here's what's present and here's what's not yeah well you know i think a lot of people think that <hes> you know there's there are these great conspiracies out there where we're not going to tell people about what's safe and what's not safe and and that and that's not the case right and if we have the information we're going to let you know i mean and that's awesome. Here's my thought on that. Why are you people looking to the government to answer every single angle question you have. If you have an open caught on your foot or your leg. Don't go in the water. I mean have some commonsense to instead of saying we need for this. Who needs showers for that. Make sure you come to the beach prepared for stuff and stop thinking that the government's going to fix every freaking problem for you and that's it's just it's silliness something i mean yes. You haven't put signs up all down the beach. That's six hours eight hours later. The the the government have to go back into the town hall to he's something to really go to maintain and yes people have to do their due diligence it part of it is the government making people aware of stuff and people have to find find those resources and make them self aware and use good judgment about a wound or a cat or and if you go in the water and you get a cut in the water get out how you know go get yourself checked out right and and and and frankly the the water is being tested regularly. There's always people from the health department out. They're testing it if not weekly not daily weekly and <hes> and they make us aware i mean <hes> i over the years that there's been <hes> dozens of times that i've heard over. I'm talking about a long time. Now that i've heard reports about you know there was a there was a fecal matter like that that was found by lynne parker marker. There was something found here and they make they make you aware of that. You know they don't watching the water or something like that to have this blue this blue green algae business cyanobacteria. You know i don't know why don't you know i don't know there's there's different theories about whether it whether it stays or not you know i mean i can see that in the rivers and again. I'm not an expert but i can see it in rivers and canals you know where it might settle down to the bottom and so forth but this mexico i mean we're going going in and out all the time with the tides and so forth and i think we clean a little bit better down here to than <hes> than inland waterways so last question on the water ear because we have so many other things to talk about and i wanna know about that seaweed that washes up on the on the beach i complain about and didn't make any sense to me. Why oy maybe you can make some sense out of it for me and i'll shut up about it but it didn't make any sense 'cause i mean you see globs globs of it and nobody's out there cleaning it up and really the beaches what fort myers beach is all about. I didn't quite understand what was going on. Maybe can while there's <hes> if if i if i'm on the same page with you there's there's <hes> there's this red drift algae that comes in and <hes> and i think policy is is that i think is when it comes in you know it's it's a naturally occurring thing comes in and it floats in and creates the rack line and so forth can gets into the rack line and then a lotta times titled take right back out and so forth but <hes> <hes> i think the policy is if it continues to come in and start building up and it gets above the mean high tide line stays there and begins to rot and stink and everything else then the town comes in and the county with <hes> t._d._c. funds and so forth and clean it up so it's just a matter of <hes> timing with that and i'll tell you that that <hes> sarcasm awesome. That's that's another seaweed. That's out there. I see a lot when i'm way offshore fishing but <hes> they tell me that there's a big bloom of that coming over from from mexico. You know that's not good. No i heard about that yesterday how bad that is not good and that will require a a small army of people. That's the first time i've ever heard somebody here mentioned that kinda see we i i. I'm familiar with it actually when we see it out there fishing rushing from time to time you know the small amount of it's a good sign fish and we will always find fisher but when it comes in the way they're talking about it coming <hes> that that's a whole nother story. That's another show. You'll have to look that up. I'm sorry i sometimes i know more than you and it's sarcasm chasms. Let's move on. I'll tell you about it later all right so let's talk about what do you what can you tell us about the lawsuit and where that stands if there's any update eight on that final lawsuit sleepy judge just seems to not get too and it's gonna. It seems like it's just a no-brainer. Check the box off and let's move on yeah. <hes> you know <hes> that's that's my <hes>. That's sort of my opinion as well but but judges <hes> judges work on their own time table i dealt with enough for them over the years that <hes> when judges are ready to rule they rule. They're not going to be told when to rule and so forth and <hes> but you would think that something <hes> this this <hes> somewhat what minor insignificant would be would be ruled upon and get it out cleared off the books but it's coming. I mean she'll still in her time. She'll do it and <hes> we're all confident. Eh that's going to happen and when it does it will and but in the meantime plans are being made to move forward and so forth and and i think everything's moving ahead fifteen fifteen years since that hurricane knocked all those things down over there fifteen years actually fifteen years since that since charlie but <hes> i made a comment i'm at one time at a meeting that that <hes> deterioration was going on long before that was that right that i i called urban renewal in that happened and i mean as far as <hes> taking it taking a lot of it out starting the process but but it was actually deteriorating long before that i mean so it's been going on for quite a long time. One one of the things you guys are working on is rebranding the beach or branding the beach. What is what is that all about giving us. I was hoping you'd be able to you got to committee working on. I mean <hes> trying to find a slug line or you're trying to find a logo. What is it. I think what they're trying what we're trying to do here. We part of the group now now. We're we're trying to trying to make it more identifiable as ourselves a a lot of times. We're we're lumped in together with with whatever the campaign the the advertising campaign of the of the county is for us. You know it's <hes> santa bell and the beaches of fort myers well. What's that what's the beaches a fort myers <hes> that's us but they don't say us and and so oh there's there's things about that and there's been talk about renaming the island that that conversation comes up <hes> renaming the town that comes up every <hes> what what are some of the options. I mean everybody yeah well. There's been a sterile island has always been always been crisis four well. I'm with you on that. I mean i i'm i'm satisfied with somebody from a different <hes> state. That's coming down to visit. Here's a steroid island like the confused. It's for it's been informer's. He's from the beginning well. That's that's called branding brandon in fort myers beach well. If you're rebranding i mean maybe it seems like there's a committee eighty four just to throw in a coal towel on it <hes> i'm open to all kinds of ideas and i'll listen to the further discussion about it and and see what they come up with but <hes> but on the surface i'm. I'm you know you're skeptical. I'm satisfied the way things as far as that goes <hes>. I don't know that we have to where we are for mars beach. We're not naples. We're not santa bell. Were we're not ford myers with fort myers beach so just like <hes> englewood englewood beach is not englewood their inglewood beach benita beach is not benita springs there beneath the beach. It's just the way it goes in <hes>. Put your foot ray over over the just. I'm gonna thank you so speaking of being satisfied to be satisfied with the road construction and how that's coming yeah. You know i am <hes> it's moving along. It's <hes> it's painful. <hes> i mean everybody. Everybody has an opinion on it just like traffic before <hes> everybody has an opinion and <hes> but when people ask me about my standing route answer is <hes> you know we we've all got to go through a little pain before it gets better and <hes> and that's what we're going through now but in other down by past the middle of the island down murphy entry now you know it's <hes> it's getting busy down there and so it's <hes> it's moving along. People people are skeptical that it's going to go on forever but it's not i mean it's a they're moving along and i think really it's going to be a great improvement. When it's all done you wanna take. I know you wanna take a sip of your coffee. I keep interrupting because at the big question coming up now twenty or so is bob konidaris a good neighbor on the beach. They're raking. Take the hardball questions. He's not gonna put the mouth on bob. <hes> he's been here a long time. <hes> <hes> i've i've seen the tapes and the the videos and everything else that's going on and stuff and you know bob bobbing <hes> but <hes> i think the comes a point where <hes> i mean if if i were bob wanna retire. I'm not bobbing. I wanna retire you know but anyhow i think the the days of the past are almost most over the beaches changed its changing and <hes> and sort of that sort of activity is not going to be. It's it's not tolerated anymore. There's there's just not a. There's not a flavor ford not a taste for that anymore. <hes> we're trying to along with this branding. I mean talk about your image and so forth and that's we've always branded ourselves as as a family island and good for families and stuff and we are so we don't need in the the middle of all that <hes> all the nonsense and the the crime and this and that going on and there are places that attract that sort of activity and apparently <hes> <hes> they get their fair share of it and <hes> but that's that's the beach of old. That's not the beach of new. Were you able to have a meeting with them. No i haven't <hes> haven't done that yet but <hes> but i understand there's been other people doing some things and so forth and and like so we'll see what happens. I don't know who they are at all right. Now i gotta ask they're making you uncomfortable but these questions of people wanna know about our murrow over. How did you see the video had one hundred thirty thousand views. You know there's some sixty thousand of those might have been you. Yes somebody touched me. Oh it was like to be touched but i just a couple other quick. Just go ahead that <hes> you know the lani kai is known four one of the things is spring break and when you want to move away from just that one identifier you know and the beach is a lot of other things. It's it is a family place and that's what needs to be highlighted because i think the population outside of fort fort myers beach and fort myers area thinks spring break you know because that's what gets the news all the craziness and whatever so it's way more more than that you can still have spring break without all the nozzle you know <hes> i remember when i was a kid when i was in college down. My classmates ages asked me you wanna go down to spring break in daytona lauderdale or something i said no. I said the why would i want to do that. <hes> we have a place in naples going then that's where we went and had our expert br because my parents <hes> we live the naples and <hes> so i i didn't care for all that and <hes> and and that's not <hes> i mean that's. That's not really all that necessary so raewyn. When tom torgersen was on a couple a couple of weeks ago he mentioned something about the liquor licenses and surprised me when he said that the town has some power over the liquor license and what can be done and and maybe to try and curtail some of the six hundred calls that were being made to the lani kai. Is the town going to look at that or where is town. Gonna leave that part of it all. That's a good question we really. We really haven't <hes> spoken about it together. The council i mean i i suppose everybody <hes> individually has their own opinions but we haven't spoken about it and <hes> and and that's probably really a good question one day to post to the to the town attorney and not just for the high but for any establishment up and down the beach whether <hes> we should get involved in in in the enforcement enforcement of the <hes> of the conditions of the liquor licenses and if we in fact have that authority in that in that power then why wouldn't we why would we we stick our nose into all the other ordinances. Why wouldn't we get involved with that. Speaking of ordinance now so there was a lot the discussion and i think my impression of it was similar but to kinda different discussions that went on <hes> last monday about glyphosate and was presented by shannon <hes> regarding the glyphosate used as fertilizer and you guys looked at the seminole final county kind of model and then there was the whole ordinance about glyphosate as a as a pesticide and it got in the lack of her. No no no i have it. You're in the weeds for lack of a better term on all of that including the attorney. There was a lot of unknowns about what you can do what you can't do so tell us tell us all about that well. That's that's being worked on by the attorney right now and so we're you're trying to rework the wording of the ordinance whereby we're not preempted by by the state of florida on their by their statutes. It's <hes> it's it's a tricky little thing <hes> that there are ways to <hes> to get around it and so forth and <hes> and i think that <hes> in the end we'll have something come forward gordon and vote on <hes> and get past and and the whole idea as far as i'm concerned is <hes> is <hes> it's to help our situation down here as far as the water goes and the <hes> the pollution so forth every little bit that we can do we try to do and that's one piece of the puzzle but it's not just us i mean if if the town of fort myers beach <hes> passes an ordinance against this well then why can't benita to pass the ordinance naples passed the ordinance marco island passenger netscape coral right up and down the coast and then you've got something now you've got something. It's not just little fort myers beach. It's it's everybody so well. I think once you guys get it passed and i believe you know you're going to work diligently towards that the it's it's a no brainer that many of the other are municipalities would would glommed onto that because i think a lot of people there's a lot of people that have a vested interest in protecting getting the waters here especially after last summer and <hes> and that's what i mean we were. Everybody does what they can do. I mean we we don't have control over what goes up up on up in legal jobe except to lobby and give our two cents and so forth but we can do what we can do here locally on the beach and we're going to try everything that we can do and then you know there are things with with my waterman guys offshore. We're trying to contribute to them and help them in their projects and so forth so any anything that we can do locally blue do all right. We're gonna do so right now. It's been reworded and it gets sent back to the dp for an opinion by them. Is that words that yeah. I don't know <hes> i don't know i don't know who's sending off to to be honest with you but <hes> that's a that's a better question question for the attorney off the top of my head. One of the other things you guys are working on ray. Was the election changing the election. That seems to be a little bit of a i. I'm going to say controversy but there's some discussion about whether it makes sense to move the election to november which i think makes perfect sense but also what i don't agree with is changing aging from three years to four years. I mean how representatives can function with <hes> two years. Why is fort myers beach. Go to four years isn't three years well well. The way the original incorporators <hes> set it up in the <hes> in the charter for three years yeah but but i'll tell you in practice a lot of things that were set up originally as time went on have <hes> become not so good and <hes> in my opinion in my opinion i agree with the with the change back to november se- seems to me like every time a new supervisor of election comes in they come down and tell us the reasons why we ought to change the election date. You know when we when does in november they told us you know better better have in march with the other municipalities and save your money. Put it in march now. They're telling us better. Go back to november and have it back in so i have no doubt that if tommy doyle ever doesn't run again the next supervisor will tell us to go back to march against why didn't always in november one point yeah yeah it was. It was in <hes> so that's but i agree. It should be in november. That's the way i feel about it and <hes> and i also agree in the four year terms and it and it's not because myself i mean i'm fine whether year i'm fine with two years you know you can try me for six months back jack amazon and back in the but but there is there are reasons for for four years and it's it's a it's. It's a continuity thing it's <hes> it's it's when you talk about branding and being respected around the county and stuff that they're like downtown in another place as well. Who's who's the mayor this year. Who's on council this year because it's it's a revolving door and we're having elections three out of every five years we're con. It's becomes like election fatigue after a while you know when i don't think we're ever going to agree on that but i think you should have an elected mayor. I think the fact that you have a ferris. Wheel of changes is because every year the popularity contest of who's going to be the mayor is what happens instead of have if you had an elected mayor for three years or four years it would be a different story. The mayor's gotta do the job yeah that it would be a different form of government. I mean we what we have is the <hes> the council manager form of government and if we we would have to redo the whole <hes> <hes> charter to <hes> to set up as a strong mayor that sort of thing and i don't think the beach is really has an appetite for that ed to be honest with you. I don't think so well. I think with this current council may be yes but it's never it's not going to be this kind of council forever so it might be right. I mean with the council now. Is i mean it's been great compared to the previous just one so i i don't know well. Doesn't i guess i didn't extent doesn't the the the people who are on council now represent the collective of the beach because they confiscated them so i think any of you are an outlier with your whole mayor i think well i think i think ray or anita ada right now at nothing against the other folks would be awesome mayors if they were elected mayors so ray of there there are elections coming up soon so will you again to be honest with the i love it. I think it's great for the showdown alexa every year so stop changing what anybody that. You'd like to see ron dan. Dan is running again and he's made that known. I'm not making an right for him right so <hes> i you know i've gotten a no dan through his <hes> last last campaign and so forth and <hes> and <hes> he just narrowly missed which is what i told them what would to happen and i'm not. I'm not sounded like trump here. I just want to tell you that that that's the way i predict the things we'd go and <hes> anyhow he <hes> he did very well for his time out and i have no no doubt that he'll do even better next time but <hes> that's that's the only person i know about running so far and <hes> there's been i need a anita announced that <hes> the meeting the other other day that <hes> or not announced told us before the meeting star there she had received some calls about the trying to people trying to convince bruce nice to <hes> to run again so they want. They want bruce to stay well if he he told us on the show. If you've runs again he's getting divorced. I mean it's going to be between the council and his wife <hes> yeah right right but you know things change i guess but what about megan is megan. Gonna run leave that key push megan into run and she'd be great megan ohio megan. Heil my daughters megan. Oh she running. She may one day. I don't know i haven't heard that should be a great <hes>. She'd be a great candidate. She's a terrific on the honor committee there and she's s she's a she's a great mind and so what has been your biggest challenge so far just getting up every morning at talking about getting older you get up every go fishing. What are you talking about that the biggest challenge as a council member. That's a good question i mean i don't really have how many <hes> challenges yet <hes> i mean. Everything seems to be moving along pretty well. <hes> you know <hes> this this business business of government and so forth. It's all about compromise compromise. You want something. I want something. I'll give you this. Give me that blah blah blah and that's working working right now you know we're we're trading off of each other and without being explicit about it but but that's that's the under the undercurrent of what always it happens and that's that's going on right now and <hes> you know that's the way i want to keep things going <hes> so the challenges is just to keep things moving moving along and <hes> and everybody's everybody doing their thing. I'm glad to see this lady out here. Sweeping up out here this mentioned that at the meeting the other day that everybody ought to sweep in front of their stores for sure. I always out there sleeping this morning rain out. If you live on the beach willing to lend a hand as much as i can good. Does your backup plan for income street sweepers law john. There's been raining so much. It's impossible to molly's he's got our lawn is probably my knee and i don't know how it's crazy. Rain rain yeah so anymore questions for reindeer he's been he's always an awesome guests. He doesn't pull in tourists in numbers but he's right up there. Uh-huh i did meet our new <hes> county commissioner of the other day. Okay i met <hes> we were at a meeting. The the mayor had asked me to go in her stead and i'm glad i did <hes> was the alliance of <hes> south florida lines of of <hes> chambers but bordeaux chamber. They've banded together and they're gonna corporate together. They're going to have do their lobbying together itself. So anyhow they added meeting amongst all the chamber executives and also some elected officials so so i was sitting in my seat around the table round table session to my right was kevin rouen enjoyed speaking with to my left who came in late was <hes> our new commissioner delhi so when he sat down i leaned over before the introductions. I shook his hand. I said <hes> you're never gonna forget. My my name. You said was that because i'm a ready to we're both roads so he liked that and so we got to chat a little bit and then when he left he put his arm around me and said you know i feel like i've known you forever. I think he'd make a good guess or is he a politician. Oh i think you make a great test. He loves the beach. He's a beach guy. <hes> i didn't get to talk to them too much but he's i know he's from the jersey shore originally and <hes> then when he was out west he was on the ocean out there in seattle and and now out up from the northwest and now he's back down here is on the war so he's a water guy crane. He'd be a good guest. Last question will let you go town. Supervisor is <hes> is the town manager doing a good job in your opinion so far as far as i'm concerned he is yes yes one hundred and eighty thousand a year yeah yeah yeah and i'm worth <hes> to fifty but i'm the right now you guys what it is ray murphy. You're the best man. Can you always great to come on and answer all the questions. Thanks so much big hand for ray murphy the the places overwhelmed the birds are coming in. Thanks ray all right dear. You're gonna talk to paul real quick and i'll read the sponsor policy coming on from the ray murphy everybody he's awesome. We want to thank everybody on the florida podcast network for listening in there one of our sponsors the florida podcast network the voice of florida f. b. n. is committed to promoting you while a promote florida and folks. Is the facebook working or is it freezing up. I'm having a hard time seeing might be freezing up on us if you're interested in elevating your florida brand and becoming part of the voice of florida head to florida podcast network dot com slash partner with us for more information to download their media kit and to reach out to florida podcast network and of course our friends at f._m. Be designs and remodeling go and call nikki and talk to nikki and ed about remodeling your bathrooms or remodeling your living room or dining room or your entire house will gut your entire house in rebuild it give the beach flavor or any flavor you want naked. Come over to the house and look at some of our disgusting looking stuff and turn it into beautified looking abode so so checkout f._m. Be designs and remodeling and kim of course. We'll talk more about that. She always does so our next guest. Yes joining us. Now from the <unk> want want us. Yes i had to put on the real glasses now so that i can see all my notes go off script. Yes no so we are joined today by paul mccarthy from the kohana 's and we're so grateful hello and we're so grateful that you took the time to come on down and share some information about the kohana so thank you oh. I'm just happy to be here and promote our club so everyone can find out what we do in the community and i know you said off air. That ray was a tough act to follow. Finally i think you're gonna do so so wonderful so tell us a little bit about coangas kind of in general for those folks who who who aren't familiar with the club sure <hes> first of all qantas is a global organization of volunteers dedicated to improving the world one child child and one community at a time. That's our motto. Okay <hes> here on the beach. Our goal is <hes> children priority. One we <hes> we have been active on fort myers beach for fifty years. Wow we have had a thrift shop for twenty five years where we generate our our income every year we give back about one hundred twenty five thousand dollars into this community <hes> we my husband and and myself are involved with because <hes> we have four children who went to the beach school and they <hes> benefited from many of the qantas programs qantas k kids which is a young organization <hes> we sponsor little league teams soccer teams and then our i think my heart art is in the scholarships. Okay retired teacher so i see how helpful that can be. Did you teach in lee county yep awesome one years yeah. What schools were you at. I was at <hes> north fort myers high school. I was at estero high school. I was there when it opened and i finished up twenty one in years at cypress lake high school. Wow now is the key club part of yes. It is as a matter of fact we sponsor to collapse the key club. Sorry we have one itself myers high school and we are starting one at <unk> high school so i'm really excited about that and dan we also have to k- kids. That's an elementary program and we have one at the beach school and we are just starting one at heights. Wow our goal goal those clubs basically have the same <hes> they do the same thing. Qantas does care we give back to our communities and then then onto the world at large but we start at home so everything we do. We try to do for kids in the three nine three one <hes> zip code and so now tell us about the scholarship okay this scholarships <hes> i'm trying to. It's been a while scholarships. I think the program started about ninety three okay and at that time <hes> the income for the club was selling fruit baskets and christmas mysteries. I don't know how long you've lived on the beach but the trees for sale in front of the <hes> the lot there at the church right so are the lutheran church. I'm sorry and then about twenty five years ago. A couple of the members thought about thrift shop so twenty five years we've had the shop and now we've had multiple locations but this location on summer linen pine ridge we own the building so we don't have any problems with the landlord so initially the scholarship started out at like maybe five hundred dollars right <hes> student wouldn't now because of the income the store generate we are able to give a two thousand dollars scholarship which is renewable for the four years of college to any <hes> any person and three three nine three one zip code. Also we give them to the key club numbers the qualify and that they don't have to be in three three nine three one so that's a benefit joining the key club. If you don't live in the beach area via this year because <hes> doctor leroy ding from the library he was our secretary the and the scholarship chair and he did a lot of work with this program. We started a new program for graduating seniors only okay okay and so out of this year we had only six applicants that are graduating seniors and show the one with the highest g._p._a. One leroy hummer ding scholarship and that is five thousand dollars for the year so all told this year we will we'll give away thirty seven thousand dollars in scholarships to beach kids that money double-checked last night. The money is actually lee staying here. In florida <hes> one one young man goes to the university of georgia but everyone else going florida schools wow and they can use that <hes> <hes> for tuition room and send the check right to the financial office in college with the stipulation that can use it for anything put it in their account and they can use is it and we have had some outstanding beach kids that have well speaking of that we want to thank ginger weber for checking in it on facebook live and let us know that both of her boys are recipients of the qantas scholarships and have been volunteering at thrift shop. Yes matthew and michael. I don't see your son sen yes. Yes well thank you. I'm glad that we are just so proud of these young people and that's it's actually what they have to do. They have to do twenty hours of service at the thrift shop okay so they can see how they're getting the money and here's here's a little more volunteering and <hes> they also have to attend one of our meetings and just so the quantities can meet them and the the school school for it. It can be the university. It can be a college. It can be technical school. Kim be yes any secondary after high school school now the the qantas luncheons and things like that where they bring speakers in yes we do you ever need a speaker a lovely speech that would be yeah actually now. I'm gonna give my flog for. We need new members to keep this berwick. I mean how do you become a qantas is some kind of rigorous. <hes> fitness yeah believable way you have. You shouldn't accept just any mock well. <hes> you know we don't have to actually come to a meeting as our guest <hes> and then expressed an interest and we say okay here's the application and you can be a member and we have our meetings up anita bills which on our next meeting is april twenty second at five thirty dinner meeting and <hes> we just pay for your own food and have have the meetings the grand poobah of the qantas okay right now. The president is roger welton rodger wilton. He has by believe he might have been right around one of the starting members of our club. This is second time he was the president but <hes> his term ends <hes> in october and then see andy leslie well the the president. How many members do you have. We have thirty and we really need more only because the average age is all radio listeners then right. I hope so your club not unlike some of the other clubs like elks. Club are having a harder time getting the young young people. I mean it's it's a different yeah yeah i. It's it's a tough gotta you gotta plug instagram facebook in there somehow and then you get the younger that's on instagram branding. We're not into that you guys do some videos on instagram and the whole thing at the qantas meetings. I mean you get the kids. It's gotta got a glam it. I wonder if there's any qantas club in america. That's on instagram well that that would be a good international yeah nationally personally. I'm sure someone probably in europe food. You guys serve at the luncheons is an order off the menu bill so nice all the meetings in in the evening or no right now. We have <hes> one lunch meeting and one evening meet it. All our meetings used to be at seven thirty in the morning morning and then we decided there's no way we're getting young working people that's right. That was my question like that five thirty. I'm like well. I could do that but if a lot of people oh come on and talk about the meetings and they're like wednesday's at two and yeah i mean you just can't know we could just have lunch because everybody has an hour for lunch <hes> they don't they don't they're coming. They might area ryan. How's season. You're not going to go anywhere kidding now. I know your goal is to add new members and you said the next meetings april twenty six twenty six august twenty. Okay wait a long way. No ex-navy aid it. We didn't really say i buy me debbie. God debbie lawless birthday understanding genova debbie. He's right on it so <hes> oh the yeah but we list <hes> in the local papers. All of our meetings like two or three weeks in advance advance and we have a website meyer speech qantas dot org. We have a newsletter that goes outta thursday so all that stuff more people read the newsletter better than the newspaper so send me all the newsletter is online or send it out by email. Oh okay all the beach people. I only have two hundred people right now. We're building holding it. We're reading. Some of them are younger than you know some of the qantas member so you get one twenty year old on that guangzhou bring average age down quite a bit by the way. Did you vote for ray murphy. He's up for a long time right and it's so you had two votes. Who is your vote dear. Tell him none of his business. I don't know inside baseball so people love this. Did you have a label abel n- no. I don't care okay recommended rate. If you had a third vote. Did you had a third vote. Who would've been now. I forget who they were boring and old dennis bob marino. There was dan and that is that it or is there another one. I don't know that's so. I was glad that it was only too well. There was four but you voted for you to favorites right. Was it that you knew them or that. You recognize their name somehow <hes> both both and they both have been on the council. I raised around for a long time and i <hes> i guess i agreed with how they so aren't involved. You paid attention. You got the only way to vote. Do you use roundup roundup. Don't okay good. Are you in favour of margarita unreadable. I didn't know this going to political <hes> political search get. This cleaned up to be honest. I think that beach people are like margarito. People key west people. We love that kind of stuff and we're just kinda laid back and i think it'd be a great addition and i i'm. I know traffic is a concern but it's always always right. Just get up earlier. Come down early like at three o'clock. I do anything more about the qantas. Let's get right back to the corner steer all right <hes>. I could tell you other things that we help out with three minutes getting in all right. We have the soccer the k kids club club. We <hes> give every year twenty thousand dollars to gaul asano children's hospital. We have <hes> were the years given close to five hundred thousand dollars swatow. Yes we <hes> have another program. We give to it's called eliminate and that is <hes> donations to eliminate <hes> maternal or noel and neonatal tetanus world. That's an international thing that qantas your own podcast because you we get that information out there. That is true. We try a little bit out of time you know. How do you get the information out you mean that's abra abras but you are right yeah more of that's true just this year <hes> used to get in touch with all the call the applications locations for the scholarship by email and it takes you know they don't respond miami. Hill's gone away text them. That's right good at ticks. The answer is right there instagram. Can you instagram the instagram thing. Why aren't you the president of the qantas well. I'm the secretary and i'm in charge arch scholarship and that's where i decided to do that so i wouldn't have to be present. Somebody was pushing you to be the president. No i just you know it's just too much. Did you ever think of running for town council. Oh my gosh no that was a hard. No i don't know if that was a hard-nosed little hesitation. Now there was an oh my gosh political no not at all which is wonderful nine don't and not religion. It's just we are there to help. The kids awesome needy families we also help with you know the service organization service definitely and they do a lot with literacy to write read yes we do. We have to have the kids read. We actually last year <hes> we <hes> gave the money to the beach school to buy a reading program for the third graders. I was very happy to see that their scores went up and yes last year sudi miller general diaz ask judy miller nice comment about the qantas. Do you know judy. I did not see that. There's people out there. You don't know she said that she supported the qantas thrift shop for years so so glad to hear how the proceeds are used to provide scholarships for higher education and other sporting events judy come on down to benita bill on august second thirty the album solitaire recruiter corners that right does the grand poobah of the qantas were like one of those big night outs we don't own. Actually we wear orange shirts that stands out yeah becau grimace color a lot of our the color. I guess every district has their separate. Color and florida is orange because i guess of oranges or it makes you look like a bunch. You're what prison here at work in the fields and they'll think well they let the prisoners out to to work on the faithful field yeah well. We appreciate you coming on and we hope you come on again and just fill us in a more often. Let us know how we can help. Oh definitely that's that's all definitely distribution lists. Her husband is the treasurer and she's the secretary so this is a family family. We really we really really are. We think it's wonderful program and seen so many kids. There's a young man who is a physician and lee county now who got her scholarship from us. I'm not saying that's is how we got. The lawyers and teachers would like all of them to come down to the club right well. We'll coming on. We appreciate it really nervous. Charles rate. Everybody says that and then they get relaxed. I relax lacks people. She makes them nervous. It's just the way things go round here. Thank you very much for coming on the appreciate it well. That was a killer show. Oh dear says murphy yeah yeah was qantas before the airline or after the airline was the qantas named after the airline line or was the airline after the nineteen fifteen. I think in michigan wow yes so businessman wave already member so oh come on people if you don't go to the meetings or get to the free food. You need to just want what they the kids. It's about. The kids want to support kids. That's a great service organization to get involved with. I agree so last week <hes> real quick. We only have two minutes. We're so happy it'd be back on the beach water great day it is thanks to peacetime out for allowing us to sit at a table twenty-three big crowd here today pete's timeout for the weather because it is very nice has been unbelievable down here. I mean i want to date and the day after the shootings as nothing to do with what it was crazy what what was going on down there. I have to tell you the story. I'm staying in the hotel right a like a mile from where the shootings took place and then the next morning you hear the police. The cars were going by at like one hundred miles an hour by the hotel. There are going by one right after another after another after another and i'm like oh my god not again this poor city this city and a <hes>. Somebody stole a police cruiser and they were chasing the guy. I don't know if he stole it from the area where it was blocked off from where the incident took place but i mean couple of days after that he's caught the guy they didn't kill the guy. Luckily they caught the guy they spun them out in the car guy but toes in aden and then we were in boston to see the jimmy. Jimmy buffett show which was awesome. We tried to show we apologize for even trying to do the show from the <hes> the parking lot of mansfield massachusetts tried to tell you that it was way too much and there wasn't going to be a good enough wifi and what was the strangest thing was and our friend chris said well so now people that watch your show that tea or margaritas filled doesn't back your doesn't support you because if they did you'd have wi fi here at the margherita ville or a jimmy buffett concert. I didn't get that right away but then a couple hours later. I got one of those talking about yes and we got to see. We were positioned in the thanks. Thanks to our friends in the v._i._p. Parking lot and we got to see him drive in and jimmy buffett driving seventy two years old guy is still puts on a great show and by the way the parking alone was three hundred dollars i was i not supposed to say that right now the parking some party depends on if you waited till the last minute three hundred dollars to the park in early better d. which was what you're one twenty-five parking spots but it was great parking. It's still a party guy got out. Can you imagine you benefit fit from somebody else's kindness and why would have paid it. I would have paid no doubt about it. I would have paid one hundred twenty five. I'm grateful. I just the we're trying to figure out out how much money like from the parking to the fifty dollars t shirts that costs five dollars to the how much was a beer twenty. It was eighteen dollars for a beer dollars yeah and then of course if you we had lawn seats which means you're still there. Were yeah well. We were watching the monitor. We weren't watching the concert but it was that was great but they were still not cheap right till the launch went for over one hundred dollars so that means that the regular good seats went four to three hundred dollars and do the math there was a thousand feet so the brand that he's built on thirteen songs said he sings without ever being on the radio but for one song wrongs is crazy and then the retirement homes which hopefully i'll be in some day sooner than anyway. We apologize for trying to do the show from their didn't workout workout but we're back at table twenty-three every weekend. Yes nice to be back here where the weather is beautiful wish you were here. Are you going to sing a song not going to say okay so we want to thank re murphy's one of the best guests we ever have on this show so he answers to quest not politicians of people screaming for him right now. He's he's not a politician. Prog goes while all right everybody. We'll see you back here. Oh we're going to have a special show. During the week it's going to be audio only were interviewing a congressman congressman about the water stain on the water so stay tuned for that and we'll be back next saturday with another slate of great guests so we'll see a by the heels down uh-huh.

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Part1:Dick Powell

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:06:22 hr | 5 months ago

Part1:Dick Powell

"Careers xm ports presents at the races. With steve big horse racing and becoming interviews. This is steve very good thursday race. It's serious nineteen xm to a one sports on nights sixty four siriusxm line and at our websites the dot com a really really pleasant thursday and seems like Were in position for a a nice weekend here and not sure. The rain's gonna hold off downstate but we certainly have got a cigar mile and associated card. That came up quite nice. And we'll talk about the revson the moselle and go for wand But it's the cigar that you know to a large degree that gets the headlines and should mcgahey who is really a nice role Performer drew the rail and faces off against another eight and a it. It's not exactly you know it's not i wouldn't call it stars strutted. Let's put it that way but there's some very accomplished horses and it also marks the return to action of kinky ermo and king guillermo coming out of that performance in the arkansas derby and then You know it was going to train up to the kentucky derby. It seemed like there were some issues. The good news is he's had a steady string works and he's obviously ready includes a couple of gulfstream bullets Including a gate blast best of thirty eight forty six four so the return of kinky ermo add some intrigue and you know you heard randy hill speaking randy. We'll get back to him in a minute You heard randi say that the george weaver was going to potentially bring majestic dunhill right back and he did he absolutely entered and in fact there were a couple of names that popped into this. Where you heard steve asmussen. If you're listening to the replay. Steve with that op ed in td n And i i said. I wasn't gonna obligate them to talk Horses although i did bring up clairiere the i'm taking a shine to her But snapper sinclair for jeff blum. We'll say jeff goldblum idea. Why but i came very close to say jeff goldblum. Jeff blow the it. It's an interesting spot for snapper. Sinclair is had these Most recent turf fronts including you know going back to kentucky downs to try to repeat in the tourist mile and was only you know it was only shy of less than a length flavius and then came back in a churchill allowance on Think that was on oaks day for therby and now returns to the dirt the last time. Let's see last time. We saw him on. Dirt goes back to may And a try in the blame owen. Dale a you know he had also gone through. The the oaklawn lead up to the miley participated in the fifth season the razorback the essex and the oakland mile and then this move to the over the turf so snapper sinclair who five years old. He feels like it feels like he's been around for years right mind control. Who was intended for. This is built up in his career A nice resume at on the main and main mile. He's he's got. He's got a winning a placement the including including at at ecuador's with the With the gotham and Trying to think of the other that he Participated in so my control stretches out majestic dunhill has never gone a mile. So you got a couple of those and there's plenty of plenty of interest On the front end with mr baath in ear john kimmel of course for the romans forensic fire as his career seemingly winding down and pleasant acres right headed to Pleasant acres to stand. He's three for six and a mile hasn't participated in a mile event in a while. But we talked to. Kelly brennan a couple of times over the the summer and into the fall and he you know. He said he was getting to know him. And he you know he certainly felt like the the one turn mile. I think this came up with with kelly right. He's coming out of the breeders cup placement of course ballroom zone. Who tried the ambitious spot with the breeders cup sprint. And certainly you know. He's always that that has gone a mile and and has done you know has none the one turn at at acworth duct and the to turns at akwa acqueduct true timber in here as well for jackson. So both of the kalua mets that were considering it participated so there's your field performer with rosario mind. Control johnny v for greg sacco snaps. Claire asmussen franco forensic fire kelly breen wholesale scandal junior alvarado for john kimmel on mr buff. Jose ortiz picks up the mount. On kim guillermo dylan davis jumps aboard majestic hill. For andy an end. George weaver and kendrick armoo. Who's ridden ridden true timber. Bit the summer and into the fall and jose vargas junior aboard volkov off. So there's your cigar mile looking forward to saturday Couple of things about saturday in fact the cigar mile challenge the contest mentioned I think a couple of times already will remind you gotta run by tomorrow. Five o'clock naira bets customers. Five hundred dollars half the prize pool half a bank roll. We'll go through those specifics and some tv coverage as well and there's also even though even though the the empire six Got taken out the other day. We'll discuss that tomorrow. With with dave granik. There's a force out tomorrow of the but not tomorrow but saturday of the empire six starts In race five the revson just the five horsfield But it's a nice five horsfield and show here to ten for ten who we talked about last week How about kelly. Breen time that i mentioned As exiting the kentucky derby future wage. This is the jersey bread home-bred for john bowers junior and a stay thirsty out of a king of kings mare and coming off the national win. Of course the mile and the eighth is the the unknown when it comes to the rim sin but these he's run solid races going to mile the one turn at akwa ducks in the two turns at monmouth known agenda home bred for vinnie. Viola saint allies. This is curling colt that broke his maiden about four weeks ago. Seventy nine by or doing that brooklyn strong. Rosario for danny velazquez. This was the new york bred. Sleepy hollow winner. On the day that velazquez Took down to his first two stakes of his training career and jose corrales with the erawan. The a rockhampton colt son of storm cat going to have to that. We're going to have to look up. And it was the first winner at laurel and then came back and had some issues was moved up on. Just what ten days ago. Two weeks ago f- also at laurel and ten for ten so five pack and then in the girls race in the demo. Sal they got an icefield there and it looks like todd. I thought at first glance. Anyway that The top pletcher down inside malefactor back to for to that resounding tempted win the curl out of dreaming of julia for shad. Well the million fifty thousand dollar yearling and then traffic lane coming off a maiden win from reportedly this at work philly that paid ninety five thousand. Four as a keeneland yearling judd. Mont has got their curl in philly mill fe. Raise your hands if you love a good mill fe. It's a it's a pastry quite good. Usually usually seen as three layers of wofford thin sheet had pastry and cream filled and then with a with a white glaze with striping mill fe. Very nice woods lanes got their home. Bred boyd this thing is chock. Full breads Woods lanes got their kirtland philly at too gotta love this. I mean this is. This is a straight out of straight at the johnson. Kerr playbook third curling four. Malibu curl a maiden winner at saratoga closing week. How about the berry. Jones home-bred upstart philly dollar mountain for george sugar's got cafe society and here i'm telling you sugars suga's got a loaded wagon. This is the empire maker. Philly that was third in the tempted is going to have to you. Know increase Her performance level To get the mouth. That but Joe allen for hundred and seventy five thousand dollar ob s april purchase and mitch friedman with the horse of Rich greeley's the hundred thousand dollar saratoga. New york bred them crafted by the romans. Pioneer the nile car mocha and Jerry maguire comes to town with celestial cheetah a social inclusion philly for designated hitters racing broke the maiden at delaware The beginning of october so very nice Demoiselles and there's also the gopher wind looking forward to dive into this tonight and into tomorrow for weekend preview. We'll talk to date greg mentioned and Nick tamra elsewhere course Los out and we'll save some of the los our conversation for a visit with bob marino. Bob will join us and our three opening day. Tomorrow at low sow as i reach and look for the los out stuff. Let's see what else are. You gonna call it the los outlet sheets there. It is berry. Go sal and tomorrow eight race card starts at four o'clock eastern and then on on saturday the starlight the grade one another kind of shortage field Kinda dealing with this As it happens there's nice full fields of maidens on either end of this. There's cow breads before the starlet. And there's open company after the starlet and both of those races drew overflow fields ten in the body and two as the starlet though A five pack and baffert loading up. The entry box baffert sent three for the starlet. And that includes calypso who the rail. The brody's 'cause philly coming out of the inoki a win having to stretch out princess nor out of the the breeders cup and you know lost in in the conversation about princess nor she ran a career best i. It's not like she didn't even improve quite significantly from her three for three performances. With seventy fires you got an eighty five buyer in the juvenile fillies and you know wasn't enough to withstand request and they at the office and etc and girl daddy etc but She did take a step forward and so she's come back actually fired a bullet at santa anita preparing for this and then the third of the baffler trio varda for bay oma for mrs chew and this is the distorted humor philly that was second to princess nor and ran well in the chandelier but she'd have to improve significantly calypso broke her maiden the brody's cause for rockingham ranch. Dave brinson broke her maiden in the inoki a- seventies buyers. Then there's michael mccarthy For the warrants with the nyquist philly nazran. Dean broke her maiden at del mar beginning of november. And that very nice looking ellen. J foxwoods spikes down philly winstar bread four and a quarter keeneland yearling astute to for two coming out of the desi arnez win and mandela had been unsure if it was going to be too quick member. Jacob discussed this Coming out of the that weekend and adele obviously happy enough with the way. She's come out of that race it. It includes a very sharp forty-six flat half mile before they broke camp at del mar. So five of them. In the starlet and a nice five goodful fields at la salle the first two cards and other than other than the great one with the five of them but Looking forward to talking to bob marino in a little bit so there's the headlines from yesterday out of the draws and of course at gulfstream. You're going to have a another set of full fields with the claiming crown They drew a bunch of horses There's also there's also a couple of good steaks To glance at tampa starts to get into their stake schedule the inaugural and the sandpiper. And there's a couple of juvenile maryland The maryland juvenile juvenile. Filly as well All four hundred thousand dollar events on saturday and then. Today they'll put together the the sunday cards. I suppose the biggest stake really On sunday the by coa for the older fillies and mares go in a mile and a sixteenth los out. So there's the stakes portion. When i when i mentioned the the headlines from yesterday i i guess there was no bigger or more widely more widely appreciated Piece in news than the the tidbit that mike out delivered here Twenty four hours ago when he included as one of the highlights of of starting the winter season at gulfstream. The fact that they were going to run races at the published post times and it was met yesterday with widespread glee and location the lead. Let's call it. People were really The people that hadn't heard it on the show They they were. They were taken aback when they wouldn't tuned in and saw racist going off at the at the prescribes pretty funny and That came off very well so Very well received and you know it it. Obviously players appreciated But also the simulcast the simulcast aspect of this the the marketplace you you know you're interacting with other racetracks amina and behind the scenes while that was going on with a you know with that that post time drag Ah the animosity from that front Not as public as you know the the irking of of players but but certainly just as much a part of the you know the annoyance and frustration with with this period. That you know went on so Very very well received. And i saw where bill finley Spoke to eight and butler and butler said all the right things about running races based on on the put me to the publish estimated post times as as as mike lake out rightly said. There's going to be. there are gonna be circumstances. You know the shoe shoe issues sources. Throw a shoe over the you know step on themselves and pull one off etc so you know there's stuff like that there's those delays and that stuff's going to happen. Nobody nobody's gonna grudge that. And and i and i appreciated that. Mike said when when when they have a rainbow six force outs a give them some leeway. You'll you'll probably get a couple of delays there which okay we can live with that. It seems like everybody on the force. Outs gives a few extra minutes for people. But on a race daily race basis It appears that they will run on time so that that was that was yesterday's Most widespread most widely discussed topic. It seemed Certainly discussed a quite a bit amongst our listenership. Big thank. Yous went out to randy hill and yesterday opening day at gulfstream and randy talked about king of rock and that michelle knew he was going to saddle and that worked out quite well for those that jumped aboard and Smoking joe mckay and joe dutifully records comments of of trainer guests and is is very careful and patient about it and does quite well. This one obviously was you know within with just within a day of discussion but king of rock the race day cold winds that that claimer the nightcap and pays twenty over twenty one paid forty to eighty and The just under even money fave catches french reef so Some people i heard from a few people in addition to to that win there was also at at turf way. The horse that mark. Cassie had talked about it. Come up in. it was either in kassy's last visit or the one before that That horse danger the two year old. Filly broke her maiden at turf way in the and paid well paid better probably than she should have. Wire-to-wire under chris landeros thirty one twenty and this included a forty six to one shot. Second so i know of one I know one listener. that That the tweeted and was thrilled because they wield danger with everybody and caught the seven hundred. Forty seven dollar exact. That was for two bucks. There were a couple of crazy numbers by the way yesterday and that included at turf way where you had you had a monster Tampa to tampa had tampa had a crazy return yesterday. That i got. I gotta dig out. happened to wander into yesterday turf way for opening day. A quick survey before paul is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. And there's quite a bit of international. I haven't even talked yet this week. About almond i going out the way she. She did With a win and we'll let dick talk about that and there's a lot of things to get excited about for next week in hong kong. We got the hksar the international races. You got the jockey competition Lot of lot of cool things going on. And and i also noticed. Probably ask to about A dubai aspect of Who did i say pakistan star. Got gonna ask about that. I so many that at actually have kind of gotten very excited about classic a legend And and those exploits so Dick coming up in about five minutes. Meanwhile here was the turf way in night action and Michael tomlinson with a pair of winners congrats to michael. Open the whole meet with. Joe rocco naff breaking the maiden. Got things going the mile quarter. Start to get the the season rolling this one for diamond f- racing and what i sorta wanted to track as we talked with that derosier yesterday the aware. The winners are going to be coming from. And for opening night Churchill the very strong and of the eight races half of the winners came from churchill But you had tomlinson. And rocco with a favourite. Start things off Then and churchill last out. You had saratoga last out winner for wesley ward. That was that. Mr everything won the second as a favourite then the fifth choice whispering kitten. Michelle braff braford. And it's funny because braford had come up separately on with a different starter and With angel surfer that the angel serpent that little skiff in the in the sixth but here was serpa and braford in the third with a nice price. On whispering kitten paid twenty bucks and that Was last out laurel fifth joyce then you had another favorite drink. John ortiz with album. Ns coming out of churchill so favorites When the three of the first four but then you had the danger you had the cassie last seen churchill as the eighth joyce at a nice number then another favorite color me pretty was just way way too good in the allowance that we talked about with ed Yeah color me pretty overwhelmed. That field with ano- as the favourite then You had to come off the a list with joe rocco and tomlinson so they combined for a pair of wins and direct approach And direct approach was a nice number in the eighth rice. I wanna say was In the fifteen yeah thirteen to one almost fourteen pay twenty nine forty Before the nightcap and as mentioned ship it was way too good the mcpeek with bear on them so Got a few a few jocks that are hanging around as we discussed with chip bok to and with marty mcgee couple of jocks. That are you know. They'll head to warmer climes And more to oakland or oaklawn. But they're going to start the the winter at turf way more good racing to come tonight at turf way and you got the holiday inaugural stake on on friday night tomorrow night so First few cards really good today to actually. There's the quick mentioned. There's a one mile allowance tonight. Nine twelve the seventh race and Kind kind of caught my eye. There was That horse ravelli's got busy channel. Who i kind of like ritzy. Ap showed up in here. Mr misunderstood for cox. Good old pika. Chew brian michael. Peca chew see how he likes. The you know the new surface the new topeka Very very good allowance. Thirty nine thousand dollar purse mile And rated r superstar in here final jeopardy for bill morrie For cox this is a really good group Field of twelve tonight as the feature. It looks like you're gonna have to look at surf way on a regular basis and then tomorrow friday night. Eight twelve post for the holiday which also drew a terrific field and some familiar names like stillwater cove. Princess wesley ward sent three in here Really good good. I found myself. I've kept surprising myself overnight and this morning type of printing out More racist than i. I might have expected so good. Start to the turf. Way season and We mentioned gulfstream in nightcap winner The gulfstream gulfstream had a nice eclectic set of horses to a few that had made starts at calder and anti gulfstream. But i think a couple of came out of monmouth. Kelly breen and steve harris winning races. you had A couple of horses come out of belmont with a pair of winners yesterday so easy winning the first and the fourth at gulfstream. Nice start to the the winter season and else allen. I win ski and rajiv combined to win a nine winners of three at a decent price that was in the seventh who else With the the guardian who seems to be warm up after cool a stretch giordano to joe won the second Paco i think palko had looked like at least three wins. I think yesterday and just got beat in the nightcap so came close to a fourth so yeah the paco victim. Brian edgar zayas sayas vasquez lopez again. Rajiv leucopenia chief for kathy hristo. The reeves's the reeves's of one like four races in less than a week and then kelly brain pock. Oh and then. Victor lebron again. So good start there. And here's that tampa. Here's that tampa piece. I was keeping an eye on it for from the some of the opinions that south offered in the in the tenth yesterday and the tenth. Not the tenth. It was the Was it the eighth. Was i think it was a maiden. Where's that maiden race was. The seventh looks like the right see seventh. Yeah in the seventh race yesterday at tampa. You had ron pots with a temple city philly break her maiden with antonio ardo twenty two to one. So all right. It's going to it's going to be productive. The runner-up she dances. The winner was lenten. Rose a gunpowder farms produced philly Our one hundred zero vergara those but she dances for fate was one hundred and five to one and she was not the longest shot on the board. There was one hundred and seven to one shot but she dances for fate. All hundred and five to one paid sixty one sixty two place and was clear from the there was a dead heat for third. Which i i'm sure. Some people were were disappointed that golden abyss or gaelic tales. one or the other didn't win But because obviously you know it it it siphons out the the payoffs as well as for the super as well as for the try. But here's the mutuals. The one dollar exact to pay nine hundred and sixty nine thirty. The fifty cent try paid nine thousand nine hundred eighty one that was with that was with the gala tails and with the favorite sixty five favorite. Yeah sixty five favorite gaelic tales. That right five to ten five to ten paid nineteen. Yeah paid nineteen eighty-one and with the other debt heater paid eighteen fifty five and the supers the ten cents supers two thousand ninety six and six thousand nine hundred eighty seven. This is for dime so You crazy crazy result at tampa. Yesterday i kind of fun. So i i don't sass It did not have the seth did not have the the hundred and five to one shot. I don't think involved but Anyway i wanted. I wanted that caught my eye yesterday. That you're watching you pay you know payoffs come up and i figured you wouldn't mind. Yeah you'd want to hear about that if you had. If you hadn't seen it go to work reach for case let's get a visit in with with deck this got thick. Now that's all right. We'll get we'll get dick powell wind up there right beyond that. I guess we pause here. Waiting for dick panzer read on. I got market tomorrow Haven't missed them last week. I wanted to talk to marcus But we we couldn't connect. We'll get marcus in and have our first serious fairgrounds discussion and they resumed today to. And i haven't checked haven't checked weather wise All races around the turf in new york today by the way. So that's that was. I don't know. I think sunday appears to be the last day of Of turf they're gonna try They only scheduled one turf race in new york on on saturday There had been potential. There were three raises in the book. And they didn't they didn't card any of those which makes sense now. Unfortunately boy new orleans just cannot get out from under Looks like rain today. In new orleans but Then improving toward saturday so hopefully They they can start in. They've yet to run her phrase every every turf race that was scheduled. Come off dick powell. Good morning steve. How are your excellent hope. You had a happy thanksgiving yes. I did very good ice dive index. We got quite a bit and before we get to the hong kong action and Obviously in addition to what's gone on and what's coming really anticipating a steady drumbeat of of news toward the jockey competition and more importantly toward the the h. i. r. And we'll get to that but how about a quick survey of and final career. Thank yous and salutations for almond i. Well it's it's. It's hard to believe that philly now mayor as good as she was with eight group one stakes wins most in outrageous times. I mean world record. Type times might be considered underrated. That she you know. She was on the radar but not not above it. Too much to go to dubai. One there two years ago Unfortunately she was supposed to go to hong kong last last year at this time and that been excuse me that then workout and domestic races were spectacular. She wanted japan cup For the second time offer a three three-year period very similar to the first one where koseki add just set this brutally demanding pace and opened up his big lead and albany not only random down but held off the undefeated free role undefeated champion. Triple chron contra. So i'm an eye goes out on a high note eight groupon stakes one massive earnings on the track Not sure who they were going to breed her to Damage by sunday silence. So you're you're kinda knocking out The deep impact line stay instead over there for inbreeding reasons but you know. She's brought this show. She'll do great but she just you know she just Just didn't get enough attention that she deserved because on firm turf going to any kind of router ground. I don't know you could beat her. I mean you know. Unfortunately travel is very restricted missile before covert with various quarantines and stuff like that so she never went to the cox play because it kind interferes with the japan cup and things like that and cox played on firm ground would have been right up her alley and things like that and you know then then you're talking and during that timeframe you're talking about her against wang's which would have been. I'm pretty good and She she was spectacular. I can't say enough good things about her and she went out on a terrific high. Now be the solid solid field and that was it. She was great absolutely she. She's one of these. I don't know if we had the benefit of her coming to north america but she she really was hard not to take an interest in her ran like a mile quarter and one fifty seven. She ran a byland half and two twenty two. She had a mile and thirty one and just so crazy times and could just kept going when she was fast but she could get a mile and a half as she did again. Sunday morning in japan. So just Of she was absolutely awesome and An exciting race. Because you watch the rights and us you see koseki is a legitimate horse with this candidly. You know there's a point where you can separate yourself far enough that they can't catch you. That's as tired as you might be in as much as their common and She did and then and then had to hold off and undefeated triple crown. And by the way steve contract who ran second first first defeat he almost certainly will be pointed to next year's octa trump right and that is that is a i can't. I can't describe it how badly the japanese want to win that race. They've come close a couple of times at this crazy loss would ever look like it was a winner and somehow dachshund and a stretch and was racing but contrary will be as good a horse as they've ever sent there that's always they've sent this and steep impact one so that that that'll something to look forward to and maybe the world will be back to a little bit normal and people can go to the octa trump's next exactly i saw Some some pakistan star conversation as well the other day. And i wanted to ask you about What was going on well. Well he may be running as we speak. he's in the fifth race and made them today. Right you buying a good point. I did not pull up out. I was trying out trying to get the results and The domestic part of the made in schedule doesn't get simulcasts. Like i haven't seen the results yet He's i can't. I shouldn't call them a crater yours. But if you've been around. He won two group one's in hong kong one race. He gets left at the gate and somehow rallied in time. Any decides not only. Do i not feel like running. He stopped stirring the rights. I've seen or refused to get out of the game but this one get out of the gate and then he just stopped so the was like that they made them go. Go back through barrier trials. He did it again in a trial and they ruled them off and rightfully so because there is there is money bet on these races. And what how you typed in the public. Unless he ran them for purse money only. You're not protecting the public's interest by avenue may may not want to run that day. So he wound up with doug watson and he's in dubai. He's racing at a mine on a quarter on dirt today which is kind of unusual because third is why if he ever wanted an excuse not to race a mile and a quarter with dirt and uniphase might be it but watson been raving about them and says no problems until he gets gets into rice when a competitive situation. We'll see what he does but obviously a world of talent seven years race that that often and still has a very very high reading one thirteen so silently two classes there and if he are you know get his act together especially on dirty with he would be interesting horse for the rest of the carnival there so yeah pakistan. That's when you thought. He was out portland. I i saw the chatter and And he was. He was a short price to in that race today and i. I'm also a hard pressed to get any any results this morning. on the on the dubai front so i'll leave it. I leave it in your hands. All right let's turn our attention to what Is obviously we're going to look ahead more so than than normal more more so than than You know to the weekend because the international relations starting to have a pretty much take shape and The there's plenty to you. Know to get excited about next wednesday happy valley early in the morning for us wednesday morning. We have the international long jeans international jockey championship. Twelve riders will participate in four races The local contingent as zack. Pardon classiest champion joel moore. Who's killing it this year. Carris heaton Vincent how to best local ride a locally developed rider rider of golden sixty have big shot the following sunday in the hong kong cup. Alex is alexi. But they'll and the ocala they will represent hong kong. And they will be up against ryan moore william buick. Marquand holly doyle. Pr shabu and mchale barcelona. So i i wouldn't say evenly matched but there's going to be interesting 'cause that they'll run four races over very distant distances and As we know happy valley is pretty tough track. If if you haven't been there you know for some of writers who haven't competed there before it's going to be interesting for them to see how they can handle. Six furlong race has like an elbow and then a a right hand turn and go down the backstretch and then a very sharp turn the turn home in a very short stretch. Three hundred meter stretch so home team would seem to have the ads but we'll see how it works out. They got a committee that's going to sign To horses and try to make it as fair as possible within the handicapped races so that should be A lot of fun not competing in international jockey challenge but soon to be on the scene is going to be kristof. Sumio who is gonna ride in hong kong on a regular basis until mid february so he's been granted a license for about two months right from mid december to mid february. He's done this before he is one of the world's great writers Had he not had the covert positive. He was looking at a big big breeders. Cup this year and He should fit in quite nicely. And your domestic racing at hong kong see as my trivia questions steve two parts so me honest from what country me france. The obvious answer belgium. Okay belgian realize that and william viewers from what do are we going to parse out or are we going to parse out you know ireland and so forth but what's he i the uk. I mean. i. I don't know where i don't know where he was born and raised norway. Is that right. He's norwegian by by parody. I didn't know that he is yes. Very cool. pro little heart slider up under the chin. They're very fun. So that the the the international channel which will be great because at least for us in east coast we can watch it live Next wednesday morning from happy valley so that that'll will just be terrific and then the following sunday. We'll have time to talk about this next thursday but the following sunday the four long jeans international hong kong international races. The sprint the mile the cup and the vases They did very well with their recruiting. Got lots of international type horses including some from japan. Some samedan. o'brien magical is in for a new. Brian as as mobile as order of australia so brian will be well represented as he has been in. The past. japanese will be very tough. Again the local contingent gonna be interesting in the sense that golden sixty will will just be awesome. That'll be a spectacular race hem in the mile beauty generation who has not race. This season is kind of race. That the they've just pointed them for this one race and this could be his farewell but he's gonna he will the end that he's run well in that in the past and then we have. As you mentioned classic legend. The winner of the everest and australia is going to run into sprint. For neutrogena casper founds and new jockey. Vincent ho Karen mcevoy right. He backed out with the quarantine that he would have to go through going back to australia. You've pretty much miss christmas. So local benson our who has to ride on golden sixty he. Right classic legend out now. Classic legend ran in a barrier trial. The other day it was five along and straight away he ran third. He looked okay. But when you read the comments from casper founds. I don't think i've ever heard a train of cold. Water all he. He's been doing nothing but co water on him now. He's trying to manage expectations of obviously very high expectations. For horse of this caliber. Not only to come for the long gene in the national racist but he's staying in hong kong so founders just kind of taking this time step by step Had gone through quarantine in australia before. He laughed and Because he's staying. He has a different more rigorous quarantine and But obviously in an immensely talented horse and he will be taken on the best of hong kong sprints and hong kong strength so lots to talk about next thursday with those raises but that's Despite all the issues around the world a really strong international contention was i. Ll make it this year. Well you can follow this. There's a there's the microsite that H j c has set up just for the week too Where everything you could possibly want about the races the sprint the mile the cup in the vase and analysis and the paperwork. It's unbelievable it's fantastic. But they have an and it will constantly be update. I mean they have a form guide out there but that'll change not to bury. A drawer is conducted and final assignments and everything. Yeah that's just a it's a wealth of information just i. there's the address. I'm just wondering. Is there an easier is there is like a sub address and obviously some see. It's easy easier to send people to jc dot com. There you do see plenty of links. Yeah if you if you go to the main page to the just the h k j dot com and then click on any of the graphics for the guy i. r. It'll it'll take it to the you know the separate microsite and all that information is there so you don't have to you know try to try to find your way through what is already the main site already loaded with know with more information overwhelming information. So do it that way. And you'll see we've got We got links up at our website to and seeing it all over. The you know the trade All the north american trade websites to click on it and everything. You're going to want leading up to the next week. Let me deck. Let's get let's get a little bit of a review of what went on. I'll send the link out to on on twitter but let's look back at this past week to okay. Well we had that stretch where forum had kinda left town. Favorites would not winning They they were actually six fifty seven over a six race card. Three week period. Ten point five percent winning favorites and then suddenly it turned around Shotton was six out of ten favorites last week. Happy valley was for a debate which high happy valley this past sunday. A shot ten five out of ten favorites at the fifteen added twenty. Eight fifty four percent favored still last three race card so we had one extreme one way now. The three prior cards were very forceful. Yesterday was your typical happy valley. Two out of eight favorites twenty five percent of that that that's you can almost call that into stone Without having too much to to worry about You know you watch races and you see things and yesterday. I'm watching and casper. Sounds who was just red hot leading trying to by ten. He has a horse race. Four and he's ridden by none other than joe moreira just crushing the writer. Standings twenty ahead. Zack burton and they send out this Six to one shot champ patrol and he just jogs and joe. Joe is in the midst of a three three race. One st there so it's one of those races you look back and say how did found america combined for thirteen dollars winning a little. Thank god i was paying attention. So i hit that joe had the lead in the last race he made it easy lead in sprint. Right now. yesterday was funny because all the races with one exception was slower than standard and many significantly slower so in the last race The favorite had the lead. It was not as fast paced. And he was run down in the last strides by latour. Been how that one up in time but Racing racing was good yesterday that some unusual distances so this coming sunday we are back at shot. Ten we're running at midnight. East coast time nine. Pm pacific time Six races on the all weather for an attorney or did they. They give the tariff a of little bit of a break for the final two weeks in a national racist so raise money three four nine ten on or web act. Pertinent was suspended for yesterday's card and he's suspended again on the sunday that lead. That joe has the right. I know it's early but twenty is cut hard to make up so axeas asking to have to pick up the pace now all weather we have six or weather races. We've only at twenty one for the for the year for this season but favorites one nine out of the twenty one and the average winning price was only ten dollars and fifty cents so form does very well on your weather. Track speech seems to do very well on the all weather tracks. So i will give you a couple of picks for sunday race seven. We're gonna go to one extreme casimiro who as you know used to play for real madrid on a know if he's still there He's a dead close. I mean that he won his last race. He was fourteenth turning foam and he gets up by a neck now jerry chows back so he only picks up the weight of you know by by increasing the rating but he draws post eight. They're going fourteen hundred meters. I think he can rally again and in a race with some first-time starters and a little bit less form full. The normal i think casimiro Hopefully not fall too far behind because he he asked john speed in the past. But that late kick is just unbelievable and jerry chow. Who talked about two weeks. Ago was just killing it now. He's down over the seven pound apprentice right. But he's he's just writing just fantastically so ago with number three casimiro and ray seven sunday morning and then we'll go on to race nine on the all weather and race ni- we're going to go sixteen fifty so it's like to turn mile and i'm gonna go with number fourteen. I remember not fourteen about the postal system is actually draws post to and because it's fourteen this is the lightweight in the race guy supreme. But it's written by joe moreira now. One big advantage. That joe has is. He can make one thirteen now. You've probably will be two pounds over. But joe can ride light with that. Cannot see cannot get under one twenty. So joe can pick up these kind amounts. It's with the france lou who they do a lot of business together horses coming off of really shop. F worried lead every step it away rundown late and i think he comes right back and does does does another good job especially he should have the early pace pretty much to himself from an inside post. I think he's gonna get ignored a little bit. 'cause he's number fourteen and people in the handicapped racing usually. Don't don't go down that far. But all you gotta do is see joe moreira. That's enough for me so race nine. We're going to go with number fourteen skies supreme and we got the one extreme speed and the other extreme deep closer. Excellent well deck. Should we next week Should we maybe get out ahead of Maybe tuesday or or how do we. How should we best attack the action next week. I don't know when doing barry draw for the the funday rights. So let's say we we. We still wouldn't we. Would we would not writer assignments the jockey challenge but we wouldn't know the conditions petitions that everything for the international races. So i'm not sure what we can do. Yeah it's true we could. Yeah you could at the very we gotta microsite. We could have a micro visit to For for for the wednesday stuff all right. Let's do that so we'll do a tuesday. Thursday doubleheader sounds good. Offer super deck. Powell everybody and hse and thanks deck talked to next week. You got to go to the main site. And it'll take your to the the the international races and looking forward to i. I'm all in on a classic legend. I i started following bond. How this the owner seems like a seems like a fun Maybe maybe like the randy hill of of australasia. Von how he's He's got he's two years worth of action to come yet for classic legend. He's got two years of of raising planned on top of the hours here a little past. Let's take a break. We've got to get the tony haven't had a chance The last week. Of course. Thanksgiving thursday and I saw one of my one of my memories. on on facebook popped up yesterday or might have been might have been tuesday. This week has been a blur. I gotta tell you. It's gone by fast and it was two years ago. One of wanna tony's last wins we. We can't call them last with most recent waves. We'll see what he's after He's he's we. Talk to by two weeks so tony black joins us next. We've got a visit to come into with steve and of course bottom of the hour. And i told you. Bob merano los out do would meet advance with bob and rich and it was richest birthday yesterday. In fact i had it on on my little note pat. I had riches name. Cherie cherise birthday to cherie deville. She got a new knee for for her birthday. Back after this. Tony black at the races. Our though the races with steve on sirius. 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Mario Lopez, Actor & Host | Hotboxin with Mike Tyson

Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson

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Mario Lopez, Actor & Host | Hotboxin with Mike Tyson

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Chad is a pleasure to be here. Appreciate appreciate the time living and what you guys are here. Yeah for sure for the awesome. What's going on lately in your life. I'm good man. You know. I've been I've been thank god very very busy right now. It professionally and personally. I couldn't be happier. You know i'm even this whole year during covid man. I was like the busiest i ever been. I was still doing on my shows it. Nbc access hollywood all access and access daily and. Then i got my nationally syndicated. Radio show on with mario that i every day is crazy. Man. 'cause then at the same time i did all that and then i brought back saved by the bell and i did that for a peacock in a new season. And we're getting ready to do the second season of that. And then i just finished a little christmas movie called holiday in santa fe. My daughter comes out and it so you know just been just been real busy. All while always say the toughest thing is trying to find the time to train boxing jujitsu and wrestling the kids and everything. So if i don't train. I don't eat on that day. That's a great. that's great. Amado live by right there too. 'cause i eat eat the day. Yeah that's good discipline and most people disciplined like that probably wouldn't have an obesity. Issue is no that you wouldn't a different. Yeah yeah no lifestyle. I don't feel like ever really woke up. And that's i busted sweat to some people that's just overbearing. Was the switch on some people really different world. I love the sweat. I feel more alive and everything. So yeah that's cool. I also see a lot of your instagram. You you. I mean you spend time with trader roach. Yeah no. I've been in the mike siemian. There have been in there I'm going to freddie's matt for a long time. Like twenty years is man you against the usher farkas each. Oh yeah i it is little. He was training Playing sugar ray. 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Tore my rotator cuff off winds wrestling or anything chris but still get in there even though vice again. That's the calm though. I know you never even. You never had had any serious injuries might did you. god thank god. It's like a blur. Yeah right yeah a lotta this things almost like i think of your story martin and a lot of like from what i remember us from the say by the bell days sure and even before i even started wrestling. I remember you with the first guy that we saw in a wrestling. Singlet right you know on the show and obviously muscle you know. It's funny as he wasn't even supposed to be arrested or like my character and saved by the bell. He was supposed to be like some street kid. Kind of vinnie bob marino and welcome back kotter but they jock. Well you know what they did is they had us write down all the stuff that we were into school so i wrote down. Y'all you wrestled. Dan's play the drums and then they incorporated all that into the character. Corey not mexican mariachi so that into the show and then this kind of made a part of the characters. When people think i was copying the character with the characterised copy me. Hey remember ryan garcia right. Yeah of course. Of course clo- rb. Don't try to mix it up like the way. Those show has flourished with like saved by the bell. How much do you homeless. She owed to that show. That's giving you up. I imagine that really gives you that opportunity to write to start. Now you're an access hollywood. Yeah i mean even before that because now people always say by the bell he he he keeps the name living. Yeah well the show hasn't been off the air since one thousand nine hundred nine which is a trip that old but yes so. What does that thirty something years. And so like i said. Then we're doing like the reboot right now but even prior to that. I was on a show when i was like ten years old. I started a show called kids incorporated. Ammo you remember that. Come on mike we were. 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I've been here some good. Things will be beautiful and dicamba be show with a handful of show. That's what i was hearing. Tell me the difference between that and like when you're going to smoke it out. Yeah mushroom can make you think good you're gonna by he just for your entertainment and stuff and ribs not really real. The world is just here. Why amusement can be blow craig. How long a while sick last year do you sleep. Okay oh you can't sleep o'connell know but that's that's partially what got him into the others. The told us would really did it for mike. Okay you know what i'm saying. That a lot of three hundred thirty pounds. I remember boom smoked the toes to get shaved Fuck from negative up. Excuse me so when you eight. Because of when i was there when you fought jones which by the way. I don't know why now i know. I know a charity but Smoking before Yeah no. I didn't smoke smoke really. I remember the muslim again. You mentioned that being high world war but what about your reflexes mike. How that oh it was good trying to kill him loose. Good yeah okay okay. I just didn't know of you know on point you want to be. I love that she's about. Would you ever want to get into legislative with with mine. You know hi over. Paul brothers hosted those fights hosted yours. Right there look. I'm not opposed to the big events that they have. I think i do agree with. I think all attention is good for the sport. If it's going to raise the sport of boxing. I think it's all good right. Yeah see you get it those guys. Those guys help boxes right. No boxer favorite wants to five seven hundred million views. Yeah he when we eighty million views watching. Yeah i see it. I think it's out of that expression. What is high tides raise all boats. So i think. I think everyone wins so you don't. You don't think it's affecting the you don't think it's affecting the sport of boxing. I think it falls under the entertainment category. And i think like like the movie of exactly exactly as long as they're bored. Look at the fact that i really do. I feel that the fact that the word boxing is being talked about so much in the attention is there and it's raising the awareness level. It can't help but have a benefit towards everyone are you're coming from a place of the fighters who have been this this. I'm just asking you. I agree with you. Yeah these guys. Me buckle awful. Yeah lena boxes get amc. The boxers thrilled champion. Gonna have the many views maybe be happy. They have a million views. Yeah eighty million views. I would listen. I'll thank god. Damn how do you do that. Yeah by wants to kill him. They little white guy bon here blue. I talk all this shit. Yeah everybody wants to kill ya hayes. Clever like a fox. He's been able to guide you what i think on the envious of the hate those guys all right. This is a new era stuff right because they became popular on youtube and they created their own following and allegiance fans and then they brought him over. Could've kind of chose any kind of goes where people in the head with water bottles live. There he's netflix. half killer. No yeah a hat on right there. He has his dome was don't wasn't right but even floyd gets going in there. He sees he sees the the revenue that it can generate and that it's obviously going to be pretty lucrative to him but listen no matter. What all jokes aside anybody that steps in the ring because believe me being in there and straw i give props to anyone have respect for anyone that steps in the ring fan came back little co fighter bum again who had on my first time sparring schick. When you haven't done it in a minute right if but never wanted to say the fucking doing has the. I'm in the right place. Yeah yeah issues. Came back dag. But i will say something about to boxing. I think is gonna help the guys that the number ones like this like the terrorist crawford into aerospace aerospace isn't a forced us to fight sooner rather than later those youtube guys. Well that's where they get the pro. Here's the problem now. That'll be a problem. You know what. I'm saying because that's been fighting all those guys right now. Flew eighty dollars zero fatal even though with forty. He's still in all the phase now. He's fading youtuber Moment of champions make it often flip the other guy. But that's what i'm saying. This is where. I would have a problem if these floors retirement for. We can do whatever he wants. Let me say the guys that are actively trying to take fights with these days. They're going to you know what i'm saying. Terrorists crawford into earl spencer. When are they gonna fight. Well that's the irony and the sort of a policy with the sport too because as opposed to The usc for example where dana white has a monopoly. And all they can control and kind of set the price and do you know do what he wants writing. You can get the match ups you want to see in from a fan's perspective it's crazy number. One number two all the time with boxing being so fragmented and having so many promoters as you know in different factions. It's difficult to make the matchups. But ironically you make more money because of that because you're able to have the opportunity to fight those fighting need trainer and a lawyer. You're exactly right. Need all his buddies bodyguard training. So you can. The fighters can demand it and they can make it happen if they can make it. Go to but you've got to many people in your ear saying all you don't need that or you're worth this you're worth that and then you end up when clean it out for them. Go took all the money now that clean everything out. Yeah demand everything. Yeah about give me this. Give me nothing now right out and it's crazy because it's not so many. Not even guys like jake paul. Anybody that loves sport of boxing. The celebrity can make something big out of it. You know. i'm gonna people will love to see. Did i pay to watch you in nashville fight. That'd be a good young would. I'm downplaying down for to them. They're not i don't know of. Nbc charitable component. Show no. she's my homie. I have no issue with us. You're starting on. But i would be happy to get in there on a charitable know. What i'm saying like somebody somebody that will be won't recognize. That has a background nor no right. I'm i'm getting with anybody down. Know what i'm saying especially if it's going to be in the entertainment field if not i'm dying to get in. There will be that hard to come back to this shit. Your backsta moving people throwing plus. It's hard conditionings different right. You can take your in shape. But then when you're in fighting shape but i could tell you something though like mike does change when he was in fight camp. You're a lot more serious. He he'd go to the gym he trained. You know what i'm saying. We're shit but when he's trading gets in the zone. Of course i never leave on mike Different world you know. You can get humiliated. You fucked up a lot of things happening. That's when you're the most vulnerable and there by yourself. Purest form of sport one. No one to rely on no one to have your back is just you in their man. You know all about that. Also what might say no. It's not the way it is man. This is why you guys. This is why fighters are pretty well respected worldwide. Oh of course. They know that it takes them. Grit some balls mandigo in their fun at twenty. Five thousand people are no. It's big for life. Exactly the metaphor go off fighters right. Exactly right we're all fighters we all get knocked down. It's a matter of. I want to get back up. And you wanna keep persevering and keep moving forward exactly world. Everybody cath mothers dogs. Yeah everybody's badgerland something. Everyone's battling that's why it was important for me to get my kids into it. I got three kids and ten seven in one. Wow so you know there are still you closing the shop beauty. You're going to keep Keep going it was up to me but you know not one having on so what is what is what is your wife says. I'm trying to. I'm trying to kind of work on it. I've been putting a lot of work and so we may get a surprise it who knows later so later on. That's one things enzi. How many how many kids. You don't have any of the kid. I can say right now. You pregnant naive pregnancy. Look go bring your freaking for mexican. That's reality you coming from mexican descent like you know the one thousand nine hundred twenty five kids know lifetime changes people. We don't need depend on people. everybody don't job. They own money so people married later on independent. I've done it right to mike and auto sound like it's thirty four. I you know. I may not the that necessarily want but i have enough money to be like all right man and just start to invest in the next chapter right. Who knows when this right knowing the right right. There is no plan as moves very yup. So i read a bunch of books on pregnancy and things like that. What a woman goes through for nine months says just be there and be like whatever you need honey pose yet. Hey trust me. It'll go a long way later on. That's good i'm actually. I'm going to have a little girl baby girl though. You know louis girl okay. Yeah we did it through wants to pursue brazilian america america. America is your girl's name. The baby already got the name for it. Okay i just you thought about it. Obviously waiting for a minute. I've always wanted a little girl and you know. And i've always thought about it sure. I'm not surprised. I'm having one harmless. I just feel like. I got softened up a little bit. You know you'll see your whole one time that's it you're done. It's going to be easy man. That's awesome man good for you good for you very excited man. First time when you do determine she's doing she's dude november twenty first. Okay yeah for sure mike. I already fleischer. I'm thinking different. Yeah exactly you do you. And then once they're here where i was. I was doing my thing. It was see i. I've always loved obviously fighting martial arts and all that so it was important for my for my kids. My daughter starting to get into a two. That's why i love getting into like wrestling and boxing. I mean obviously not just for the physical aspect but it gives you so much confidence you know what i mean just in light. It gives you confidence. You feel assured. I think just the respect factoring all the disciplines. You need like in life. Don't you agree. I'm filling. i've experienced a lot of cool things dude but having experienced like would the average person would probably experienced thirty four years old and finally i having a kid yeah. That's okay young dude. Yeah no for sure sure. Yeah so yeah no. It's good a little young but you're your little older to appreciate a little bit. More is good the crazy part about away a couple more years. You know what i'm saying because there's some like your your pull out games week then got no gold medals to pull out game. I call it. I call i call it the mexican foreskin real making. We learned about might do that. Was nobody trying to look at your hood monster henry. That's good any. Yeah so. I'm excited because of that. You know what i'm saying. So i grew up. I grew up with a single parent home. And now that i'm going to be a father do dislike do this. This is new to me. We get married. yeah mess. Why proposal went down to brazil before we had the baby. Reveal party man. I had a you know her whole family was how to you know traditionally shoot. I got i got on one. Twenty second century. Where'd you meet. Homegirl you've been a bad name. yes so i. I met her in brazil. She's very should ruled traditional her her. She was raised by her grandmother. Sent her great grandmother just passed away due to kobe like about a month ago. Okay and then she found out she was pregnant with my baby like the day that her great grandmother died all okay so it was weird machete drew about a great grandmother. She said that took a test. Because i thought this was weird nation. Note the next yup sure enough. You know you're pregnant. They she's pregnant. I'm not giving august. You're pregnant you gotta you gotta start saying that in front of her show like that has like a community team everywhere. We're pregnancy mike. Noah's good yeah. So i so going so i did it so mike i did it in front of the family man which was like you know. Yeah bent the knee. But you know had a. I had i had to make. I feel like i old. That possible brothers changer. You're like it just me gonna be a long in life. You have to do something the something behind. That's right are also to the point. Yeah exactly yeah speaking about proposals. Might you ever you ever proposing that mike lutely. Yeah yeah so tell me how was it. How is your proposal man. let's get married. Just like he has reversed bandini. I'll get married. No yeah and took the show. I have put my food. And i believe I don't know what she do. She was coming in from the store. Shoes death let's get married. We have kids. Did she say yes right away. Yeah shoes asking me to get married before fat guy. Let's get married. i just get married. That's tight tomorrow. I know there's this. Rico suave i've been i've been you've got a while had no. I build like thirteen years. It's been a minute. Yes yeah okay on the same program right there but how did you propose some about forty eight or so. I propose i'll tell you how i was in mexico. Two zero two nickel. Remember that that place. Yeah remember in red shawshank redemption wanted to chill down there so we were over the a very good and there was on the beach and the whole so you know had the ring out got on the knee bent. Remember all that remember. Cheese antoniacci ahead. The started and we got hammered. It was great us. How do you bring on a plane was like you'll know the desert in my pocket trip. I remember for some reason when i was going through security at the airport and had it in my pocket. Anyone lose it the good buzzed. And he wanted to seat. And i was like shit. I didn't want to kentucky for a second. So we had to take me around. And i had to send a look. Here's the this and i go. you know. i don't want to bring it out in front of a so. He was cool about it and stuff. Most of the time they would have made you bring it out right there and i wanna to do right there at lax. You just turn into a different kind of show. What else dr phil. But it's kubeck so know mike. You got seven kids right. Mike shooting blanks snip. Why i say having any more kids now okay. Give my wife to pay. Never now. i know why it's like a after his next snapped them all shit. I dunno might know more. That's it anymore kids. I think that's a good number you kids. Oh that's good that's best that's important they ever ask you about dad. Show me kindness. Yeah spoilt kid. Smart kids that's cool. Yeah it's not like. I want my kids necessarily to fight but i do want him to know again. I just think it's important. I like all the the disciplines that it comes with the respect factor right because obviously i keep up with him and i see the we treat your kids. You do a lot of family stuff with them. A lot of dances and things like that daughter and they all have a personality delay. You can tell the shy. Yeah yeah normally. The generation of lopez and shubin. This there you go. That's trying trying to get the whole family. And g right i can. I can see both coup. She comes actually in the new christmas movie with daughter does. He's it's called holiday. And santa fe takes place in santa fe new mexico. She does a really good job in it. Actually she plays my niece more romantic romantic kind of okay. So you're you're the young cool and she's the nissan and we own a family shop and get by corporation but a woman comes and yeah yeah kind of say the day we've fallen a little more to it than that but more babies popular right fun man so yeah so doing all that so yeah so like i said you know blessed in happy to be working and all that but i still love. I still have to get in there to vote the box scene and the jitsu the wrestling the whole thing even little martin. I know that's the thing. I remember the end of the remember the blues brothers at the end the car that comes and goes up for my body feels but right now thank god i feel good. I haven't gotten injured a feeling strong at the gym this morning. I'm sparring wednesday almost part wednesday in the morning so boxing but then tamara. Ju jitsu exit okay. So how many rows typically do when you score. It depends like if i'm gonna go with one guy. Usually he'll get a little bit tired on me. We're gonna go a couple of different guys. Last time i went. I did like six rounds. Six hundred sparring straight. They do the thirty second rests. There's she's hard. Yeah no it. Is you got to build up to you and then you learn like might you start learning how to relax a little bit longer. Why you don't wanna blow your wad. It's selected you sleep so good though at night. He's actually kind of i of actually kinda miss like just sparring but just boxing. Yeah 'cause boxing's so it's only it's it's the hands to protect this at but you gotta just find pockets of worded. Hey when you're training on the you can't obviously go when you're sparring full force with the boxing and the kicks or how does it. How does it work because then you have the big gloves how you gonna grapple know. How does it work. No you could. I mean folks on one discipline it. I don't i don't do that anymore. I ever time everything i do. Now is all based on but you just find bigger gloves actually tour belford created some gloves. Where you're or. They're like normal boxing gloves. But then you're able to grab with the actual. How would a trip. Yeah so you're able to kind of come out of the glove which is cool hit them. That's a true and you can gravel. Yeah yeah yeah so take you believe. Throw four ounce glass glasses you catch. It does need. I even think in thailand the The actually the legitim- geigy out the muslim off. Think oswaldo all mazal. Yeah that was a pretty left hook boom whose moms gotten better with striking. And he looked good and mazda was the one that was supposed to be pretty sharp with his hand but he did a nice little faint a big left hook straight right hand down. The pipe was pretty. Yeah that was pretty. It says leverage bro. I think that's what makes use mine kamaru wrestler. And he's arrested but it's his lavers look at is reach bro and look how big hits for that week. Wrestlers abbey hands dude. Yeah i mean size been asking. Yeah the majority of last that was like how tripping on that like hamas taking shots by robbie lawler all these. Do's devils gonna put you down with the student other mean when i was. I was surprised by that him again. Now i know that was cool. That again smiling afterwards surprised about that. No no news on using again knocked actually call it around to with one shot. Ben has been has no hands like no but he has a good chance. He's showed. That's why i was surprised because you see them. Take some hard shots before. That's why i was surprised but having a good like a good nobody. He's taken great shopping. Us because i figured with what would they find. What ten ounce right. so that was. I was surprised but then he came at hip surgery. And and all that. Yeah no business to apply if he i think he probably made a million dollars. I think it was good for him. You know price fighting just kinda hurts them and make you know it's just now clarisa shielded did you hear about that. My thought on She's going to be funding the foul sometime next june seventh of june as always pf l. She's fighting okay. But as good as she is a boxer mike. I'm not sure. I'm not sure she might. She's gonna be in trouble bro to say the least worth it. Yeah but it's going to show us that but henry and correct me if i'm wrong. It's not like it's very different if you haven't grown up wrestling or grappling because you can't just your instincts to learn how to sprawl and just that takes a lotta matt time just like boxing role am i right. You can't just learn how to sprawling grapple of you're the greatest of all time you can prepare for the pressure of that guy. I do right exactly exactly they grab you hook kuban both your head once you get on the ground. That's it all the boxes gone. That's what i'm saying. So what i'm saying. My prediction is clear issue. But she's in trouble with the average girl in mixed martial arts because of the take thousand gonna. She's he's so mean she does. That'd be like dude. I will bend the knee to her. To end the newseum area. He's married to a harem will be here times. Yeah let me ask you. Would you say how far did you get in. Ju jitsu with your jitsu. I'll be honest with you. I i didn't i use more ju. I wanna hurt people more than actually submitted people. No i know. But i'm saying like in the training. How far would you say i. Even i even go past the white mountain. Is that right. Yeah so that wasn't it so it was more about just the grappling with could submit people. Yeah a blackout. I've actually seen it a world champions before which is some of my wrestling school. Yeah the the the pressure right and then you were amount things just fall into your hands. Yeah let's a trip. Yeah but you're right. That's that's maybe that's one art. That i probably should have but man i want to her people you know just cayenne elbow man. He's violin over here. The last one. I was at the my use. Mariah's yeah i saw wasn't at that one but i saw that one. That was great. That was probably one of the best comebacks i've ever seen. Yeah anyway. i'm gonna give him props on that one. I thought i ain't gonna lie after. I go shit. Kicks you one more time. I say my guy is gone. That was one of the best mexican war. Just had to say. And you've been there before right might be had two nine. Give mike a of guys. Don't know how to make the just fight one way and they don't know how to make just like life if you die. Yup that's exactly like you said fightings like life. You're exactly right if you don't adapt uday denmark. Mike's coming with some knowledge. We'll get them started breaking rules. That s some some who me roomy day giving you pause rose man will any new pro. I mean other than any new projects in the future. That you pl- ponding on baby do what you what. I'm sorry are you working with netflix's just did a show with them. We ended i was producing a show over. There called the expanding universe of asiya. We finish that one but At the moment you know at the moment no but You know we got the new. Like i said of the ball season coming out on peacock. That's those streaming services to for nbc. Someone the car. What's better than courtside seats. Free sports on pluto tv. Hey sports fans get all your sports free on pluto tv pluto. Tv is your home for sports. Watch twenty four seven channels of mlb mls mma sports news and analysis plus documentaries tv shows and movies offer free. No sign ups. No fees no contracts ever download the free pluto tv app on any device so some other fun exciting stuff. Kuma speaking about the like. I i think was Dustin diamond passed away screech. Yeah he just passed away not too long ago ride man. He was young. Poor guy wants to go right. Yes did as a matter of fact he had cancer and when he went to go get a checkup. It was already like stage for two weeks later. Two weeks boom. That was it poor guy to anybody anybody but it was like a i believe like a throat type of cancer or something around this lymph node throw something like that poor guy you never know man you know one of those things. Why eleven food any funny. No no damn dog screech how you fought china. So that's what came to my room. China the celebrity match change. He did my jaw journal. China he fought. He fought horse shack and welcome back. Carter in the match a real concern. Did he flipped him up. But you fight a woman. I swear to you i swear to you you know i got the he check up or whatever is just smoke. Grenell stringing hard man lay change yes or no. He didn't fight china. You never fought china awful. He might have been to china little dude the bagel dude dustin diamond versus china. You got up for charity thing. Would you think stepping. Who'd be cool man. I would love to dj's rappers iowa few against the jonas brothers. I they i think they oversee those. Why you why you to legitimately one of those guys come on man walk over guides. Walk over those guys you an parks no one say i. Don't they talk. I said do they train okay. I'm just thinking of the other guy that i can think of maybe West khalif do saying have a good time after the fight as you got your yes. Yes diverse nick. Jonas wiz khalifa got a lot of henry. Damn henry shoot. I'll try to build a both. Those dudes are both do cool. Bet there's there's a lot of celebrities now like i even justin bieber's around the game a lot to he likes it. He likes a lot he was at the the last seven trailer to i mean. Pardon me Bieber likes to train. Who else have i seen it. Matthew mcconaughey seen the gyms my boy mark wahlberg likes to train as much anymore lead to fight with food with holly berry. Holy fuck you. Highly trained tree halle berry. I'm calling you out. I'm calling you out harry. Lopez legal fight off because they smoking incredible incredible. They look incredible thirty crazy. You've age very very well homeless here. i appreciate. you know tomorrow. But he's still looks like he. He was a kid and say by the bulb. Jim reagan. what's up. They thomason gonna tell you Your diet ben. Hamas she you gotta you putting on what i really don't i really don't like diet per percent try to. I try not to eat like an asshole during the week and try to watch. What on the weekends. I get down and i love to eat control during the week. Control kind of do a little bit. Like i didn't get a chance to train that i won't eat too crazy. No we're about i don. I don't feel like you should ever eliminate any kind of food especially if you like it. I like to kind of pace myself but on the weekends i like crazy. You know i'll throw down with louie crush it. What is it on. Week is that she'd be like man. This is do this thing lemon lemon lemon pie. Key lime pie love. I love crush crispy. Easy good twelve. Thirteen tacos easy. Get somebody schools right there from good pizza. Leave all shit. I like sweets to hang after we like chocolates and stuff. I'm like low. Fat kid sweep great heart. Cookies and hot chocolate chip. But that's on the weekends because then if not be all up hungary up here i know and are you gonna come back and fight or what you keep teasing shave come back. Haven't i'm out of shape. I'm actually i'm actually. I work out. I don't. I don't fight as as much as i used to. Actually been one year since my last competition. You need to get back into the gym. It's getting back shop again. Are you thinking about making a comeback. Think about maybe training or getting involved in some capacity officially retiring right. i'm businessman. I'm in real estate that i i've been russell eleven and then i've been pretty much since age. Eleven to eastern three atop dudas competing. Yeah rustling than emmy. I've been enjoying businessman. John i've been enjoying punahou reminds box with them. But do you want to be involved in the game. Still capacity wondering screening managing not. Yeah i just want to exit out completely not completely but always a fan. But i don't know if i want to be. You know what i'm saying. Yeah 'cause i know. Mike what about mike to a historian the stuff all of this love watching the old fight and you still love watching fights which i love to you know. So that's what i love is like when you're also a fantasy a lotta guys that fight that heated. They hate to watch opponent train. They don't even like to watch this stuff. No he loves it. So that's think but the biggest thing with me is just it's not like boxing man like the. Us's like it has to be worth the legacy man you know what. I'm saying that i've done everything. There is to do nothing. I was just curious if you were going to be involved work to some capacity. That's all Yeah i love to analyze i actually. Espn sports nations are giving like a five minute segment on just kind of like being cringe like gamified analysis being the character that i am also it took a tune about you. See that's right and you see place to be. That's the best. Get a cartoon the best video game ever. I remember when. I don't think i ever told you might when i finally got to you and how to beat fucking took me like months to finally get to get to the code. I remember there was a way to get the right to dig up down up down left right. I just think vitamin c. You around you. But i never got to many on active all right full. You don't what's up. Mario lopez man. It is a pleasure. It is an honor man overtime and we love you man. Leave that love and respect for you and you to henry seriously sitting with real champions not just in the rain and the octagon but in life and real cool dudes so Mad respect for both of you. I appreciate you having me now. I'm gonna try some extracurricular activities like aptx. Don't forget june fifth man. Come to the jovian mound. I love it. tyson's lounge the lounge in the ranch allows aka hansen. Who will you just watch the hot box with mike tyson. Yes yes and i'm here. Mario lopez thanks again for coming. Do as a blast any lost. Let's close it off for about the whole world is looking at you. two point. five billion people faith something. Thank you for having me on the show. Mad respect to both of you gentlemen appreciate the time you find yourself in front of the tv around. Seven o'clock tune in nbc access. Hollywood order radio tune into on with mario or check out the new saved by the bell or the christmas movie coming out. 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Part 3: Johnny D, Jon White

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

57:14 min | 1 year ago

Part 3: Johnny D, Jon White

"Johny Good Morning. We'll be a cell phone I've been I've been I've been told by people I gotta go and I got a bigger name on the other line but not before it's only three days solely three jobs and and by the way in most cases that's been true so taking a back seat And I'm just kidding. Obviously but I've enjoyed listening to the guest you've had on All the tributes to APN Neil Drysdale alway down the line all the bill. Harrigan yesterday who I enjoy listening to as you said he was one of the same song because everyone who knows him knows his work. Seems it's Brayton's but just a little bit unknown people. I think the general Wagering population doesn't really know job that he's behind the scenes and He he's been involved so many top horses and as you alluded to his name shows compares performance with better. Pay attention to So he can train a horse and then listening to Only blacks and Sean Parker I. I was thinking to myself as mentioned Writers he's at the privilege the ride would. I was thinking back to the riders that I had the privilege to be around both as a member of the of the publicity staffs of all the southern California racetracks been in the the early eighties and then John McCain For roughly twenty years at all the solid California. So I'm trying to think of. What is the most common denominator? No Tony was listening. Those guys they they wrote the twenty years and that was it and now they write longer and like you know. Some of them didn't watch their weight and they're smoking in the weight room or taking a sip of alcohol sweat going and all these things I think to myself you have changed now. Obviously employee explained that but I thought to myself what's the most common denominator but I can think of not just jockeys I worked for but jockey's around I was around. I think I think incredible Doxa. Pink tide McCarron Shoemaker. Del Toro dog peers. guarantee a young. Stephen a Fan Hawley. I mean it was just an incredible experience around that I thought to myself once the one common denominator and it was pretty came to be pretty pretty quickly competitive. They're all. They were all competitive no matter if you were golfing if you're playing tennis if you're playing air hockey it didn't let on it didn't matter poem it didn't matter what you're doing with these guys any one of them. It was always the same they had the win and listening to Tony. Talk about riders. That struck me because he even touched on he. Great he didn't he didn't Belabor the point like I am but he greg on it and he said he highlighted it. You know the will to win the competitive you know. He mentioned someone like Bill. Hart I was in Tennessee. Football Eighty was hard tack Hundred Years Back and forth as the football big deal and we. We never draft. And I'm talking. This gotTA BE LATE. Eighties maybe You know before fantasy. Football became sing and There was a minor infraction by one of the more players. One of the team owners in the game. And we're all racetrack people racetrack league. We don't gather at the docks room at del Mar and late summer. Have our drafts near the end of the beating? But there was a violation. And everyone's like the one who cares. Let it go away. And he was adamant no. This is not not the way the rules say it should be is not going to be this way and it was. It was partly to win the what it also was. He wanted to win and he knew that this stepping over the rules was going to harm his chance to win. So everybody all these all these fantastic riders one thing I can say they all had was that competitive nature. The desire to win you know. Here's the guy who won. I thought you Derby Five. And he and his trainer he's a writer so I mean it just incredible but so I don't mind taking bigger name on the other line I'll take back. I appreciate it and you know it's been a week of you. Know of remembrances The circumstance and and Tommy Trotter coming on the heels of Bob quickly now You know in the last couple of days. The of the news of Ray. York's passing a couple of days ago and then yesterday afternoon in New Mexico The sudden death of John. Wayne I also Johnny addition bringing up Ray York with Tony. I wanted to bring up Henry Merano with you. You're the first John Waddell beyond with us next than John John called the charts for some AP and erases at has got you know. Real vivid ties a career but For Henry Marino. I mean that had to be somebody you booked mounts with the and at the bay year round he was about as popular guy around clockers corner. And and I'm sure in Hollywood as well as anybody. Yeah you. Can't you know he was. He was granted with Paul. He was very sick. You know wasn't so much fat was like just Kurt. Who's a big guy he's the wireless chaps in the morning and the ad that cowboy hat on and he had spurs and he was just kind of an opposing figure and I remember early on you know I. I stop by pack. Obviously make me around as an agent. And he he growls something at you as you as you stuck your head in the door and you know and and Kinda. I was intimidated by an early on. And then people say to me all these great guy and fought people talk about and then finally there came to occasion to get to know every little bit spend some time visiting with him and he was a fun guy he was a funny guy and all the time he was intimidating. Because they get out. They did all the jockeying for anybody to came by born. You know he gives you a glare growl at you and and and you you run and hide but then later years he like you like that song and of course he had some wonderful horses Early on and then and then the time I was there also had some good horses saying I guess is the best one when I was around and then before that You know you have to south. America horses did very well with didn't ride then ride much for many riders that I had kind of stuck with the wherever. It was his his wires But he was one of the breakfast club. We call the breakfast club you had. You had warrants. Duty nells duty Henry Marino and then sometimes join in the group Be went use OPTIMA. Joining build place called Cocos which was Not far from Santa Anita and have breakfast air every single morning so when they when they were drawn a racist and anyone go guy. Warren or mel needed a rider hotline. The coach goes to try of them and try and pick up them out But then later years of course he joined that group including you can add. Burials in the group's shedding with a car there and and to sit with them and listen to the story Especially Warren and now and Henry about. I don't want to say the old days 'cause you know we're talking about the fifty and sixty in racing and I guess I guess thirty days now but somebody says the all day that take him to thirty two close to. I don't think they're all day but they talked about raising what was like and I actually at the table. I was sitting there one morning and I actually. I cursed him out. You guys saw the good. Here's what you we must. Because her started was so fantastic. Incredible and and movie stars and and Trips Cheers Party. I said hey what what happened. All the stuff you know been thinking is But it was great to hear that and and listening listening Tony Black. I also thought man. You know the rioters back then mentioned mentioned the names and I thought to myself. You know what we've got. Now we've got you know. The Guy who made there may be deemed in the in the seventies and eighties. Those are those are wide you to join the guy that he talked about the fifty sixty so there aren't new weapons always born. The wheel keeps turning and I I know him he was you know he was a big part of what what went on in California for decades and we can't help but feel sad when we lose guide like that A friend of many and an acquaintance go just a good guy to have a laugh with his. His real is really nice. Horse was Saying right the in the Mid Eighties. That was was very good and he had firearm number. Correct head are really really good sprinter. I can't remember if he if he did much going to hurt Lina Sam but I remember him as being a fast. I haven't looked to saw off the top of my my my father still head but I seem to remember Sambu with a nice APP. Absolutely absolutely Samho was was one of those big ones. I mean saying I just looked her up. She won a million dollars in the mid eighties. So you're talking about the hard way I mean in one hundred thousand dollar steaks are probably the big stage even see here biggest stake. She Participated in a couple of two hundred thousand and then actually Actually at the end of her career at the end well she one let me see. What was this eighty? This would be eighty three. She won a four hundred thousand dollar race. So what was this? Because I'm looking at this from a chart that doesn't have. She won the Yellow Ribbon. She was a multiple grade one winner. She won the eighty three yellow ribbon and it was a four hundred thousand dollar. Steak was the richest purchase purse after. I'M GONNA turn I'm GonNa tear and as as you as you continue to acknowledge. I'M GONNA turn to my American racing manual collection and pull out a charter to and I mentioned the other day. My connection my only connection. Tannery is how you know having gotten to know his nephew Bob Marino at Low Sal. And he's a wonderful guy and everybody loves and I CAN ONLY IMAGINE. And you know what he's built he's he's broad shouldered and and kind of a built like a bull kind of like a folk and by the way. Bob Marino was in that we tend to think that I told you about arquette. Recall Incident I. I've also got the text on that topic from Chad. Checks Nader in New Orleans. Who who says that he was in a fantasy league with with our tack and said that hard tack would do anything to win. He he he'd pull out all the stops including some that wouldn't there weren't legal up really really. Does that will to win? You know to do any. I mean look. I'm no expert on on riding horse because you talked about eleven thousand. Something wins between between Sean Parker and totally black. That's a one thousand something more than I am but when you go back and you watch bill hardback right. I mean he was. He was not the picture of a perfect Z. As Pony alluded to saying you know how he was talked to Horst art technology bounce up and down and it and I called him better only wanted to win and they and I think I really do believe that desire then came then that desire is the competitive fire. He's passed on. I think I think the mouse deal that I really do you know. We know that animals feel so much in the air from us and I think if you're on the facts you know they're gonNA sit on Smell. Fear GonNa you know if you got apprehension that you don't really WanNa be riding their source. They're going to know that if they can if they can run the show. They're gonNA take advantage of so I think. Part of the part of the edge in air quotes that these great writers had or have that intense desire to win. And as I as I remember great ones that I've been around. They've all shared that income. And matter what you're doing didn't matter to the game port. Whatever they had to win. Well I've got good news and bad news on the Chart Front. I cannot I as one of the few racing manuals. And that's a point. Well may johnny one of the few manuals I do not have is eighty four. So I don't have the eighty three charts. You can add John White. You'll give you heal. I well Lee so I'm going to get around in ask. John Field is finishing order. Well I'M GONNA make a point that I is one thing that I do see. Just from from sayings season she picked the she would have been a champion. She would have been the turf mare champion in almost any other season. She happened to pick the year that all along decided to come. After the ARC after winning the Ark came to North America and won the Rothmans international one. What would become the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic and then the DC international and she ends up the filly and Mare turf champion. When Sang had won the Santa Maria Handicap then had kind of middle portion of the year. Where she she had a bunch of placements including second in the gamely and third in the vanity but then she got hot and she wins the Chula Vista the Ramona the Golden Harvest the yellow ribbon and the matriarch and that would have been a resume. I I would say in ninety. Three out of one hundred years would have won you of you know a year end honor but it just so happened that that you know all along. That's tough to argue With what all along. You know what what she did when she came granted. It was only three races between October and November. I mean basically my God in less than thirty days. She came to the United States or North America. She wins the Rothmans the turf classic and the DC international gets boys against the against the males. She was no no shaming being second to her. I really appreciate it Johnny I imagine that John White in his comments will also fold in some thoughts about Merano as well. Let me get some some business done with you as well. And it was a busy week We've got one more week of beat the host before beat the host championship. And Eddie Olczyk will close out the season and last week. Acacia Courtney one winter. But it was a a nice priced winner and so it may have done some damage. Well you know. You shouldn't be slightly McKay. She had to okay. She had frank rocket was short price. And that y'all had unaccountably so she had a total of thirty seven dollars In earnings per day Gelfand a couple of runner up three or four forces to finish second. She could have had a major day. But that's the way the cookie crumbles thirty seven dollars in earnings And and the winner the perfect score for the weekend if you had all the winters all racist. I've hundred four fifty. Which is the the largest perfect score of the season Mostly they're doing any roughly two to three hundred range so this one five hundred and and fifty is way. Above what She total have been so far a weekly winners this week. Marian he told Mendoza two hundred nineteen dollars earnings. Collect one thousand dollars weekly prize. Bruce Barton Two hundred seventeen dollars just two dollars behind the leader. Seven hundred fifty dollars. Alex Valenti two hundred thirteen dollars. Two hundred fifty dollars finishing third and And then the cumulative races without cumulative does this year they're kind of keep a running total of Buchen earn the most throughout the season. The leader the leader. Don't into last week Kevin McFarland. He has five hundred forty five dollars in earnings going into last week he came out of the week with five hundred forty five dollars in earning yet. Zero Ernie for the week Last week Stephen Sang. Yeah he only he only added fourteen dollars and fifty cents. Ruben Gentleman who actually led the cumulative race three weeks January twenty fifth straight. The only posted ten dollars so you had a case where all the leaders Had kind of weeks go by kind of weak so Stephen Jones who had a great week moved from death of the first one hundred thirty dollars a week? Close the gap like that and and is now a leader with six hundred five dollars fifty cents. So we've worked with SIXTY BUCKS BEFORE. Kevin McFarland The big but as you see. It's the leaders that bad weeks. You can make a lot of ground with with one. Really good what? He's is going to be quite see how that one goes down to the finish. I I still think no matter. What happens Kevin? Mcfarland deserves tip of the cat. I probably ended up with some Some money for whitening here. He doesn't get pop ride but he put down two weekly first place route. I you know it's very rare that someone wasn't doing beat the host for a long time now over a decade. It's very rare when someone we actually win two weeks the two weekly in the money part Kevin McFarland one to top weekly so that will contribute did his masters total but he deserved side of words to that great compliment and the sweep the whole read got seventeen flyers chasing Perfect you check. Take on this weekend. It sets up perfectly to become any ono this week. We've got we've got The final chance for you qualify for beat the host championship. All you need to do is beat the host total and you qualify for the championship and basically A free shot other than making wagers at winning Twenty twenty five thousand dollars and five so free roles you can beat the whole how get into the championship and then the top thirty choirs championship. Exact pricing they move on to spread. Showdown which is a two hundred dollars value each. So if you haven't played beat the host. It's not too late. Two thousand a weekly practice. What if you beat the host and move on the championship very nice seventeenth seven? So tell you that. That's what last year what we the last couple of years the Johnny. What did we end up with in terms of sweep the host? Actually it's been it's been growing when we originally started we would have. We would have no one right. I mean that was the way it went off for the first couple of years. No one would get to this point and then it started to be. You know we'd have pain six five you last week. You'd have two or three and you'd wonder if you know one person would survive But seventeen this year. It's kind of a reflection of look. I'm not going to criticize on. Hose but tweeted operator from host. They really haven't I mean the the top total host has been forty eight dollars. That's best any host is done on the karate second-best forty three dollars white thirty seven And quite open with thirty bucks so when you think that we look the leader. Cuba's the rear as Stephen Jones. He averaged seventy five dollars. A It's divided six thousand five hundred fifty. He's averaged seventy five Sixty weeks so you you think not one not one host. You know come close to that mark. It's been a good year in taking advantage of the host and that's one of the best of luck to everybody on Saturday facing addy and he'll make it tough usually does and really. I actually got to get in for because we haven't had a Montauk about his book. Have you read his book? I have I have good reason about you. Know what an amazing career you know to become a little different than others. You know different way to get to the top a lot of junior hockey a lot of you know. Pass different way to the top By the way that reminds me so happy for pursuit on a friend of Joe. I so I never back to handle. I'd never married sons young but as as you said you know people the following this story and followed we and the message and hearing them on your show rooting for him. Never met anyone associated with but to hear the that he signed signed with a debate club. And and don't be signed somewhere in the minors and you try and work is way off it. It's it's I mean. Look how kids. That was my dream to be Major League baseball clerk and I never got there. I I got close enough for somebody say you could find me and I. It's not really what I had I other than being being. The catcher I was excellent. Defensive Catch Other than having a week cards and other times pretty good so I am for for deep while that was when they had sending out a sitting on a bus sitting on a bus for hours on end in Gastonia North Carolina. Actually my brother played minor league baseball. he was a very far he played. Unlv uncoached you all the afterwards and he played in the minors for several years. And you know I. I went to visit him. You know. See a game I maybe it was Sacramento. Somewhere somewhere in California. I drove up to play. I don't remember where And then one was porter's after the game you know couple drinks and some food and I grind wind they go through and especially the catch catcher to You know the Brood feeding that you'd say that any position planning every day bosses aching. I mean it is not not getting paid much more I think he. I think he's I'm for like in dollars fifty thousand dollars. You know this is going back four years five years but you know this dream followed it and I remember when he called me to tell me that his shoulder was shot and he had a company Jackson you've been gone and he was done And he was calling to tell me that he's going to hang it up and then he'll operation was good wasn't gonNA get him back. He's a big. I said. Look that's fine if you had you gave it a good run you try again. But I don't WanNa be sitting around the dinner table in thirty years about how you could've made it. He's he signed the door and move on and he did Frank. You brought that your brother Frank. You knew and you know. What did you do before you know I had? I had believe me I had. I had minor league reference books. I had everything I bill. James Forget it I but he he was he was he was a cubs farm in. And you know you know friends with medical players is now come and gone but you know debates who made it and he thought you know I I I kinda compared to the You know the draft similar to what people go to sell me. Excuse me they picked out that. That's really our draft and and asked him. I said well you know the the guy they give money to make that much better are they. You know really a difference. These he said you know time guy didn't get all the money you're a lot better got exists. It's just the way it all develops save at your differently and it goes by taking the curve ball and the big money guys. Can you know it? Changes things change players teams abilities. Chain Injury Happen You know it's a is. It's not not not sign somewhat attended and sometimes involve no doubt but there's also an art special Art Guy Bill. Harrigan he has he has an art getting horses he could. He could write it all down and handed but you couldn't duplicate because Sharon cocoas close. So you know. I don't know how we got way on whatever it was It and people are wondering as you talk about your brother Playing for the cubs. He he was on a couple of teams major leaguers that That made it Gary Var show named people. Remember your show. And also Darren Jackson was on his themes him to who played later for the for the pods and and in addition to the cops and other Later coaching at UNLV. He had some big leaguers that program. I remember that I don't know if he was a teammate. Or if he coached him. I can't remember which good good player the the big third baseman for the giants. When all to manage. Yeah they managed a couple of years. I don't know if he's still I don't know if he's still I don't know if he's still doing well. Let me the discussion about. That's right. Then we got into your brother and Minor League Fernando where we before that I have no idea but but I may yes that could be but I don't know what the beat. The hosts connection was speaking of John. White is going to stand by Johnny PLOP. Wait wait wait wait. That's it. This was my nights. Who have he wrote a nice autographing? Wrote a nice little section in there. A Nice personal message to me And that I really appreciate and You know spokesperson. So he's going to be tough to beat this weekend. He's tough to beat the stuff to beat in contests the BBC the one of the greatest performances in history of any horse player. Here he doing stuff on air at at the same time playing his card I. It was unbelievable. It was remarkable. Eddie book is called beating the odds in hockey and in life Eddie oh check with curry comb. Who's a top sports journalist for years And of course Eddie battle with cancer and talks about that and and what that was like to get that news at a young age you know at the at the height of so many different things to get that might notice and then this battle through just it just good really good. Johnny de Everybody. Xp Johnny I appreciate it and big Saturday at Gulfstream. And we'll talk about everything on Monday screening from Johnny de Everybody. He'll be back in his familiar Monday. Slot this week so quick turnaround for Johnny. We're going to quickly turn around get Gianni White in here because we got twenty minutes and John's got a lot to talk about Undoubtedly APA at the top of the list. John Because you and I exchanged some notes and you were front and Center for his career. You know you said Johnny and There was only one person in my whole life. That's ever called me Johnny. Joe Hirsch I like it. He always told me he'd go. Johnny and So when I hear that I brought back a very fond memory right there by the way I was glad that you articulated that tremendous campaign by a long nineteen eighty-three because she wasn't just the American horse of the year. She was the horse of the world that year. But you made the point and it's true saying what a won an award in many years. You talked about that yellow ribbon that sang ran for Henry Marino. Bill Shoemaker Rotor. That day she rallied from last won by a length and a half as the two to one favorite. But you know back in those days. The yellow ribbon was really the Breeders Cup Filly America Turf That was the brainchild of Jimmy. Kilroy that race and that race really was the biggest race in the country for phillies. Mayors on the turf. There wouldn't be a philly mayor for the Breeders Cup until sixteen years after saying one. The yellow ribbon. The runner up in that race was light. La Trial Yacht with Eddie Delahoussaye. She was coming off a win in the EP Taylor. Third in the race was infinite and she was only coming off a win in the garden. City at Belmont fourth in the race was Sabin for woody Stevens who would be one of the top. Female grass renders in the country nineteen eighty-four avocation was fifth saying avocation and. Cassia ended up having a pretty good rivalry on the grass between those three in the early eighties. Avocation was trained by a very nice lady. Vivian Poem Charlie Wittingham Train Costanza. Who was ridden by Chris? Mccarron how about this who finished seventh the race coming in from France royal heroine for Michael. Stoute who then turned over to John. Gosden at of course the following year with win the Breeders Cup Mile the first one at Hollywood park so I mean that was just a tremendous field that sanguine but the the accomplishment that Henry Marina was the most proud of he trained a outstanding female thoroughbred in the Nineteen Seventies. That she he brought up from South America by the name of Titina won the nineteen seventy six and gorgonio handicap at Santa Anita. That's now the Bobby Frankel stakes. She won that race under a hundred and thirty two pounds. That's the most weight ever carried by affiliate mayor at Santa Anita not just a victory carried period. No failure mayors ever carried that much weight at Santa Anita and Tuesday carried and one with it the only other philly or married to ever carry more than one thirty in a race at Santa. Anita was way in nineteen thirty one and she won the Santa Barbara Handicap so those were the two most outstanding wait achievements by a female thoroughbred in the history. Santa Anita and Henry was very proud of that. I'll never forget meeting Henry Marino. I was just promoted as I had worked my way up the ladder with the racing form. At in the spring of Nineteen eighty-one they promoted me to the position of the reporter columnist Similar to Steve Anderson these days for the racing form and I worked alongside Mike Barton here in southern California and my first week They were running the spring meeting at Hollywood park and I was going around to the various trainers introducing myself to getting to know them at Hollywood park. There were two sections in the barn area. There was a new section with brand new barnes. Dwayne Lucas was over in that section. Charlie Whittingham was in the news section. And then people like Bobby Frankel and Henry Marina were over in the old section and so I went over to Henry's barn dance produce myself and I walked up and and He was always very friendly to me. Very courteous and I said Mr Marino. My Name's John Wyatt. I'm replacing Howard Johnson's L. With the racing for him and he says all your the new racing form Guy And I said Yes sir. He said He spent the next ten minutes berating. Not Me but a former daily racing form colonised by the name of Pat Robertson who had written for many years and evidently those two had had a number of run INS. And what have you and Henry made it clear that if if I was to become into his barn. I better not the better quote him correctly. A better no one. I'm talking about when I write about courses and so forth and I said Mr Marino I will do my very best enough to not make you mad and we got along very well All through the years I mean all the way throughout his life and he was a real real horse and you know. He started off in quarter horses and switched over to the thoroughbreds. So he he was one of those pave the way for Lucas some baffert that would later make that transition. I you know it. One of the one of the things a- about bringing up the names and the you know the individuals who we lose A. There's there's so many stories because the racetrack. It doesn't matter who you'd ask. I mean if you wait into the racing office you'd get a set of stories if you if you reached out to owners you get a set of stories. I it just it it. It's just amazing. the talk to the journalists. And and you know casual fans that would talk to the horsemen in riders etc it. That's what's that's what's so rich about About the game John I I. We're GONNA have about ten minutes or so. I know the abnd portion of the last couple of days. has has resonated with you because you were on hand for some very big moments as well. I called All of a sudden California charts and it was when he made his debut at Del. Mar is a two year old. He did so with quite a buzz. In fact I would say that there hadn't been as much buzz for first time starter as a two year old in California in southern California since Alysheba in the nineteen eighties. Sheep was a five hundred thousand dollars. Yearling AP Andy was a two point. Nine million dollars keeneland summer yearling at at that. Same Sale Sarah Mulkey the owner from Japan also bought AP jet for two million dollars so we bought one or two point nine and the other for two million. The year before that Mr mackey had bought a Picasso Painting for Fifty one point three million so that guy was spending a lot of money for horses and paintings in those days but when AP Andy made his debut in office the favourite he never really threatened. And you heard Neil Drysdale say he was never really comfortable because he have that undescended testicle they remove that and from then on AP. Andy went on a winning binge. Put together quite a winning streak and But I happen to be in Japan when AP jet ran in nineteen ninety one random the fourth race on Japan Cup Day and I was at the Japan Cup with my wife. Golden Pheasant won the Japan Cup. That day for Charlie Wittingham with Gary Stevens writing but that AP jet WanNa race on the dirt that day and absolutely annihilated the competition and AP jet would go on to Have a pretty darn good career at his own right Made over a million dollars was a group three winner. And then as you've set made the point it's true. He became a very successful sire in the state of New York. But I'll never forget watching that Just absolute annihilation of the competition of AP jet and then that Hollywood fatigue body Caused a bit of a controversy here in southern California but the controversy was not because he was hit a lot of times with the whip it was because he was never hit with the whip. And Eddie Delahoussaye if you go back and you can watch this on Youtube which I did yesterday to to Take another look at that race but Eddie. Dee Rides with ice water in his veins. He's absolutely just measuring the victory over dancefloor with Chris Hanley's down on the rail and at least going to the whip left-handed at any only shows the whip at that never never strength. Ap Andy With whip but showed with them down. The Lane wins by neck and that was a great one six hundred thousand dollar race and whenever I of all the hundreds if not thousands of charts. I called for the racing form. There are very very few in which the winner won by a small margin like a neck that I did not put driving for how the Horse won the race. And in this particular case I put ridden out and I got quizzed on that from these statistical office in downtown Los Angeles because they felt well. How can a horse win by only a neck and not be driving and I pointed out to them if you just read the comments under the The chart the chart comments in in the chart that you would see that He was only showing the whip. And that You know it was a confident ride by it and unfortunately in the great book champions put out by daily racing form that has the past performances of all the champions. I happened for the first time yesterday. Notice that they had made a mistake for that particular race in APN these past performances because they have driving and who whoever put that book together for that Horse in his past performances. Obviously that does not go hand in hand with what the official chart of that race says. And it's a shame because it was a fourteen horse field and you don't see many horses win by a neck and a fourteen or sealed that aren't driving so that was kind of a sign of a p Indy And Eddie Delahoussaye. Once told me that he really shocked his family when he before the Kentucky Derby Nine Thousand Nine hundred ninety two that he had told them this horse will win the triple crown and Eddie just was at that type of guy to make that kind of prediction and unfortunately as we all know the foot problem. caused AP. Andy scratched. And I'll never forget that because three days before that Kentucky Derby was opening day at Hollywood Park Again. I was calling the charts. And that's the scariest day I've ever had racing because as I left Hollywood park on that Wednesday before the Kentucky. Derby would be run on Saturday. That was the day of the L. Rodney King Riots Breaking Out in Los Angeles and The whole city was going up in flames and in fact some people like letter Dorfman. The trainer had been injured taken out of their cars cars damaged and so forth. So that was the scariest drive home from a track that I've ever had in my life. They cancelled racing for the rest of the week at Hollywood Park. So normally I would have been in the press box at Hollywood park when that Kentucky Derby was run that year but instead I was at my home and got up in the morning and found out the news. The had scratched and a good friend of mine that I will get to know years later that I stayed with it. Del Mar In the summers when I worked for the racing form there Retired neutral clerk. He had shown me a ticket that he bought an eight hundred to one fifty dollar bed at one hundred to one in the future book and my friend Roy. He was a fisherman and hunter and so forth and he was out fishing in. Colorado that week of the Kentucky Derby and he went from his campsite at a river and was driving all over Colorado trying to find some place that would have a TV so he could see that Kentucky Derby. He finally found a restaurant along the side of the road walked in and said do you guys have TV in here. And they said yeah the bar so he goes over to the bar and he says to the guy. Will you be showing the Kentucky Derby and the Guy said Yeah. I have the stations on right now. There are commercial than the guy asks my friend. Would he'd like to drink or whatever and then he said. Hey it's too bad about that. Horses scratched my friend. Roy Says Oh he says I knew I was probably dead he says who scratched and the guy says. Ap Andy at my friend got right up from the stool walked right back out in droves two or three or four hours whatever. It was back to his campsite that he'd lost that future but back because abnd scratched and You know AP. Andy of course would win the Breeders Cup classic that year. In in one of the best books I would recommend to your listeners if they do not have this book. It's the Breeders Cup Book. In which J permanent did the writing in it. Jay Preben I thought did the best description of the distinctive running style of APN. Because in that Breeders Cup classic proven wrote the DP Indy. His head low to the ground as if he were searching for contact lens and that was really. I thought hit the nail on the head in terms of trained described that rather distinctive way that a p Indy had of running so a lot of AP memories for sure this week and Boy what a racehorse. What a sire and like you the first guy popped into my mind was lending showman because I know lending. Shulman is like the president of the. Ap Andy Fan Club and Really AP. Andy Was Lenny. Show them with turbulent or was for me growing up so I really fell. You know The think of leading Shulman immediately. When I heard the sad news that abnd passed away but what a life a PNB lived there. There's no doubt you you know you can only I always reference Shug a when it comes to being just STOIC and appreciative of of what you know what they do in their careers and by the way. Pnd has still east tied for the Second Fastest Bell Mind. He's tied with easy. Goer for the second fastest Belmont stakes in history. Behind course the Great Secretariat Secretariat setting that record that. It's hard to fathom it would ever be tied or broken that to twenty four but Then in itself think of that. I have all these years all these Belmont. Ap tied with easy or to twenty-six flat for the Second Fastest Belmont in History Arisen Star in there somewhere too right and and Think of fleet. Alex had a at a pretty fast was clean fleet. Alex too fast one. Or there's somebody there's somebody that I always think of As as close up in there anyway you gotta just appreciate the life that they add as you know. Sometimes it says a racehorse. Sometimes we've talked about the stallions. Here's one that that just did did everything right Whatever his assignment John. Couple of quick notes as we go to wrap up your got about a minute. Haven't had a chance to really talk about Jonathan Wong. Sending out keeper of the stars in the Buena Vista on Saturday at at a big price and It just feels like she got kind of lost on the board. Keep her the stars though she really did you know since she had her last wins he had seemingly kind of Ghana form but she got on form here and because I mean Joey Olympic that was she. Has It all the wrong way? And I mean it's kind of being perceived to be a possible star here and I wouldn't give up on her as as as Jeff Siegel pointed out to you. I mean she's a southern hemisphere bread. So she's really three and a half running against older but you know for her to be such a. You know heavy favourite not be able to win. That race was You know I was a little disappointed by that because you know we love to see our stars looked like we had a you know. She's got she'll have plenty of chances. yes come just got just got nailed late Because I you know graded stakes. Wenden that this is a guy that has really put together quite a training operation up north and He starting to run more and more here in southern California and when he runs a horse she really have to pay attention. He's a high percentage trainer. He always has been and one of the keys to him if he runs horses refills. They're gonNA run well so even when they're big price like that with keep rue the stars. There's someone that you don't WanNa totally ignore. We'll get a chance to catch up with the one and regulate him on this first grade snake. We lost that day on Monday and put us on our heels tomorrow of course weekend preview where we'll be focused on Gulfstream. We'll talk to Jay permitted J just minutes ago sending out the congratulations and the news story of Louis. Ketone yes Being named the George Woolf Memorial Jockey Award winner for this year so congratulations to notice. This was a fast moving and busy morning they just ran that not all Sheba trophy and it was actually secret adviser that Second Choice Spanish mission. Little too far back under Spencer and left a little bit too much to do and ended up. Maybe fifth but Secret Adviser for Good Alvin. Wins that trophy steak today just minutes ago at May Dan WanNa thank Dick Powell and Brian laid out. You'll be able to hear the strike five now USCIS again tomorrow. Tony Black Sean Parker Johnny Dean John White. Good luck to everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.

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Stacebob & The Dweebs - Rambo: The Force of Freedom

Stacey's Pop Culture Parlour

33:48 min | 6 months ago

Stacebob & The Dweebs - Rambo: The Force of Freedom

"Rambo everywhere the savage forces of general warm friendly people world wrestling man to call me rambo info from the canyons of skyscrapers to use of remote mountain liberties champion. His team is known as turtle. Master of disguise has named. Kat took freedom lovely listeners. Welcome to episode twenty seven of spice pulp and the on the spice ball part of that toil and dominate. But he's so annoying owner and the tweets part of that toy is reached. The the world's worst phone have all the world war two and the other dweeby. Stunk Giggle and it seemed like he was poking a lotta pills. Will how was or scratching my head trying to put a little childproof pills and failing miserably. Childproof any kids. It's because my headphones Them i've got the amusement. me phone. so the microphones roy name my head as opposed to like yours where it's at least a bit. Further like sophie was scratching your bonuses Instead can you know say on. No because you've got lucia look for money. You are raccoon at the moment. I think that can strike. Which sorry did you on people from work. Listen to this. Podcast come sensible. Now put fucking ridiculous all Down this is the podcast. Where the do eve's might you watch cartoons from their past and this time it was still concil contents future been. I don't teach ep d route. So well i picked rambos a force for freedom and it was shaped very relieved with that one. Don't compete rambo the force of freedom and incentives for a something of them and and santos portfolio ivan. Five part miniseries to watch. It's seven because i actually wrote dame to i because i wasn't sure what which episode will watch him down fair luck of community the film at the very end genetic abandoning person that goes to the walks into the fact that they started off as a five part miniseries before it was a false areas and the last one of the mini. To even more confusing was like boy. I assume it on know what everything is. Isn't whoever From the final off everyone else. Does you know the the only rumble of saying. Is that shape home alone Last year whenever was the second best. Now it's terrible. Yes except below demolished half how below in tow but goring the papal get funky. Murder really talked all. I didn't like it spicy wrong. i think might be. It would have helped if cena earlier rambos the feel. Rambo is supposed to be like a hero or a sympathetic character university. Dick ways hori your was gonna say this kind of misses the whole point of the actual ram carry especially when it ends with the new freedom my new whatever the fuck he says and his terrible vinnie bob marino slash so vesta stallone action accent so awful. I love it could help him some. Thanks okay we recognise. James ivory my voice man. Excuse me often in the focus on these fucking mana Our these sure he's not the beau coup created the atomic bomb. I don't know creates a moment. Is it genuine e end full. Ignore him it was barry. I said matthew broderick malloy show. He's still police before the freedom. Why don't you call them. The freedom force don't sense well. I don't think a force is really three pay police. It like the greek freak. Did you happen to see what the bad go is called average. Yeah but what that stands for. Isn't it the worst thing you've ever specialist administrative as vengeance on occasion gobble. Extortion definitely didn't work backwards from the world. Supper special administrative is brilliant but also at the end next specialist administrators Do you know what i do. Not get the feeling that they look at gi joe and saw a rambo squad popular and they put us around canal. Made me crazy. Especially at the end. But i know also got no shoes on as well seeing that soon the rest of it. And he's doing he's a he's got notes off on during the day jury not like bit where the guys thank you for getting my country back around and he's still got no weekly muscles films. Genuinely a brilliant film does not take these top off when he asked to like bandaged and rambos rooms arraigned with these top off. More from first bullet part two and yeah to the first one. He's got his co. on yeah forests. Say 'cause i haven't seen any of them. Adapt really no but when i think of rambo i think these top off but with loads of like bouncing bullets while i called. Yeah patriots to them. What donald l. feminine being like in the shadows in some freighters like microalgae. Really shoot the first. Oh yes yeah. Realize the end when he when he comes back to the time. Christianity accent kills one person. The first film doesn't it when he sets off that he's probably gonna eat toward so had a cops crashed his. Yeah i was gonna say one of the culpas or something that time an accident. It's not until he comes back because keep the whole thing. They pushed dupuis dream. It's not very good accident change. That was more common shorts with the tool now. You remember the party. Expert impressions assaulted only. Don't know all can't decide whether i think it would have been better or worse if the go ahead of leighton jade's stallone accent. An exact full on different image. I caught up. He was so not always kinda hope that that was the case. But i bet you any money they must have been some kind of clause sylvester stallone. Had some kind of say. Yeah no you're not doing that now mainly no not really mind you again. I've been to you then. Blows my other theory out the water so they always they didn't wanna pay him too much for likeness raleigh's the books you say. That's the kind of these. Based on that book where famously. He died at the end as opposed to the film ways of always an shoes at the end issues. It was on to shoot him the book and he earned the joke goes into water so also ryan attention to these because he was the fifth part of emerging injuries. Chroma larry jay sekulow and there was a where it goes into. Water uses a net to collect a lotta moines so that they can use some lighter to people online supposed to go off. If you like tucuman she will net. It wasn't until they touch the actual chain. That i started thinking when he was swimming away within the same defect to them together. Also you're going to go. Point of words couldn't stop laughing at that. There are a lot of really was a bit. Wary mike mike. She grabbed in hooker. Vote toyed range oil coating the main villain with general hawk. The first couple of times. I said i couldn't understand what you're saying. Thought i'm calling in general warnock and it was only when the girl said it. Who's my did not pick up cushion very warm yet. I say she pronounced very much. Like wool holck two separate words girl yet to go. I don't know. I didn't catch anybody's. Nymex rumour cat initials k. but also come katherine which is just amazing. East of name. Genucel have initials j. a. n. gen anyway suffer. Drinks provide any of my usual amazing trivia. 'cause my laptop is being a piece of shit on. I don't know if there is any minds interviewed for this. No we've we've made some no gets before in the past hilarious him back because going to wall we can't go to the baths conway's too risque. I'm there was a dole in a bit of this. That said explosives in capital is to slice. You've ever from wondering why the explosives were now. That's why we snuck in any a thinking. Punched him in the face and puts him in a barrel and then stone allowed to their explosive to us on the wia interesting though the series featuring extensive right modern weaponry and acura. Kohl's you want to be trivia and that's actually trivia. You won this challenge. Now that's not contribute. I was surprised. At how many guns were fired in. It realize it from nine hundred. Eighty six is probably why come on. He was definitely jae jao literally. Skin cowpox wasn't it very turbo. That was the name of the guy who was making all the inventions and stuff. We see the one he was james ivory yes yes p voice in this of sargent avak they let somebody and frank welker the few voices i think people in twenty s. What are we talking when did was it. One of the tennis goal was it. One of the mario games mario tenny so mariota dight sifiso's just gonna do into going way. One of my absolute favorite bits of the the to phase in game mariota. One of my absolute favorite bits of this cartoon was when the goal and the golly who will remember john. wasn't is that was that terrible. It's not so racist which city woman just the general be a where they were trying to be stealthy both wearing blankets going. Nobody else yeah. And he kept on number three blankets like nobody else in name. Toya area was wearing. So i took it source and bonk's yet he just won't start up to their tanks mr slapping explosives so tink tink and then she gets in fucking giant. Bright blue hand blown just hand. Boys into their campaign was made of bamboo. As well vaguely. Asian maybe but also hairy gods like just completely blind eye all having a knack or some god on my runner we've said and she just keeps them over. There are girls our from. I'll tell you what made me laugh about this. Show now forgotten because of our md. Bill those three. Oh the characters that were in this miniseries while we got white dragon. A heroic ninja So definitely not a ripoff of what's his name from diario storm shadow. Now that's the bad guy needs Cars that's it. Td touchdown jackson for a native american ally of that's it speaking of stereotypes may was the i couldn't figure out who had the The generals henchmen were from. They were all the slightly so of south america own middle eastern over the place. He seemed middle eastern. They deed but then at one point one of them. I think he's the going barrel. The other guy lifts the lead and he just comes out. And he goes bah Really fringe quarterbacks. What's he didn't american. The barrel rambo punched him. Put him in a barrel and the nato is explosives now literally just spoke of this fringe. He saying did for the why he came at. The battle of went. Hambo was caught and french sandy. That's what was. I was backing up. Duncans point that the accents doubt. Mike sense it. I don't think you both fringe. Don't look it up bef- wrench. He's not he's not safe member of savage character. Ea was just like he did in a barrel. It wasn't hoity got pushed into it. But who european missionary. i'll maybe grandpa voiced by lennie. One wave he's in that was one of failing cold mumbo essay hannah. It was a haitian voodoo magician on. This show is so i-it's jug face Lennie rape that warning rape wait. Yeah yeah what bizarre surname anyway. Let him rib back for. Showtime have. Never adamant rip. Now don't think definitely are sending client definitely fell asleep rome woods when it was someone's birthday a one side might be kim's and you went to somebody's hotel room and you automate rape. You fell asleep. detroit a sex. It me lost. You didn't lose my wallet van. Sarah fell asleep. That's why everybody fell asleep everywhere so high. The music was pretty good in this cartoon. And that's because it was most stay the jerry goldsmith stuff from the films. Although it was pretty good for paul tune this is quite exploiting gave me to find out. He wasn't even might for the cotton. Yeah it was made for a big production. It was this same track akin to the tells or something would beckett more entertaining although it was reared hearing like the fazli patriotic music for the the bugs seems on which again kind of misses the point of the charissa. The plan characteristics anti-government anti war anti bill. Societal do list of did in the film doesn't say yet. This ferry thousand pauline. Stacey should be was supposed to die at the end of the first film first blood. Because that's what happens in the book of the shows on the horizon them and all that kind of stuff and had when she back element. The country don't care about you anymore. That's run by the dwells tables and they changed the ended they. They decided they weren't going to kill him so they can make more films. Hollywood full you. I'm gonna do a quick google of good from both kita Took in the third one. He assists the mujahedeen. Brilliant isn't it and that makes me laugh and he and james bond actually incidentally showing the film first blood he kills one person and that's an accident in the second film. We kill seventy five. That's the easiest shoots gone at the end. He doesn't actually aim antibody does he just want to cause destruction in the town. Run by three hundred fifteen rambo two and fifty four jesus last bloody goodbye to forty six. But i think he kills them all not many period and it's ridiculously goer echoed The rambo full which was gone. What was that. Two thousand and eight museum sane. Is he literally. He killed whole country. Almost there's a scene in it stays where he turns an antitank going around on these cots carbon applaud mission. We've go. can you help us because these are the partner. Couldn't trainees or and angry when he says judy benji in any studi actress. The wary was charlie sheen. No sorry that was hotshots proctor. I'd always get mixed up joke. I'm sorry i'm to the priority of rambo. Judy bend history debates buffet extent shaped taller. Okay fine indexed. It should have been. The geico are dead one no actress. Who's like the same in everything. In the punisher war zone she sees shittiest film texas through tricia. My maybe installers. I seem buffet is i would. I would never took was a dollars. Miss should roy. Yeah unless she's yeah doubt. 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Now only point anywhere on the internet. And i refuse to try and download it because it's not worth it shit absolutely. Don't shit anymore dog. She than anything else. We watched to know if nothing else this. This podcast is reinforced a belief about the wall. Which is the only really really good content from the sixties. East coasters the sixties. Sixty italy on a scale of one to office late because three calls asleep signed bruce same. I'm not sure like any of the cartoons any more. I'll tell you as this made. You hate cartoons. The act of drawing name paper or ask quid made me a little bit. Sad is of just went on the Mister t cartoon wikipedia and it turns out that the first two episodes were written by steve gerber. And all of steve gerber. I mean probably isn't going to be pulled de niro an episode as well focus cold dark of the night and it was the breakout episode. It was caught. Dolphin edgy. New carrot to the really been in mr t. counties until to canada went back long hundred years. Okay the eighty no no. He was mr t. You but he He has a gang of gymnast. Gymnasts that out so crimes. And i only know this because i'm not joking true when i was younger when we were boo. Found it on vhs and boy it was terrible. Even then you'd have to be when you were young again. You can't go in the future and do these things. Salvi believe what's the point of call. You're not hfs on audiotape. Type of other. How the seat. June newseek. Donald e. I mean i did. I did get an l. p. of jasper carrot ones. The kid was the one where he was on top of an aerial changer. Barra yeah because that's what i the jokes. It didn't offer funky moped on it. I know the one was just seemed stunned. That was on. It was a talking about 'cause always looked younger. The older you get news at the neutral the bus. Yes yes same. Joining the first record audible drawn. It was on the tom night. As we've all be back can terrible techno piece of nonsense show talk back. It's really i think. Technically the first album ever owned was the the single of the three little pigs green jelly. That's not bad moon album. This will walk rich my mumbo it may. I don't think she knew what it was. He just thought he was twain. The pigs yep. I think folly star album in my early used as which are never list but epa system out. No he did i. I do not record. And then i went off a breaking his. That's so aggressive these anymore. Smashing give someone will no one wanted to cherish awesome number now in the world like this time music keys and you want to and you just go a lot. Because he's a film of same lattes would you number two the freedom foresee of if you've got a net that you need to collect the minden mafia the show via if you never wear shirts. Shoes shish definitely the shock value. I think if you're a specialist administrator issue probably watch these as well but also don watch each year. I mean more copy walks cutoff at the end of never did day what freedom walser free a creed them was the friends. We made all along down. All chipping be freedom. The freedom an insult is how freida mass sam free so freedom is the ability to say that jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams freedom usability ability to kill when you're drunk driving in timpee. Freedom is the ability to get into. Somebody's jail cell and struggling to make you look like a suicide own. God hey enjoyed whatever. They swaps senescent. Amo will fraud. Stacy's paula stacy's partner at jbl dot com. Give us a manet coffee dot com for there. Stacey paula skates face. Give me some and have a good november in that year that's yes.

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Part 3:Rick Hammerle, Ron Geirkink,  Nick Tammaro

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

1:18:19 hr | 6 months ago

Part 3:Rick Hammerle, Ron Geirkink, Nick Tammaro

"Voices in the words breaking down the biggest stories in the world saying this is at the races. With steve bishop on sirius. Xm radio so baby get help in book and our cat at after trump didn't have a ps five china doll. You compete feels all six bottles whiskey bottle a nice seven horse coming out of the break and i got the new. They had a a special release. That got a couple of months ago. And i really have not gonna put that in the car I have not listened to seven horses. Recent they did like a pandemic Quarantine project so seven horse. The ever heard that in a while. We haven't heard rick heavily all week hammer. Good morning. Good morning steve. How's everything going happy birthday today. Your birthday or the week deal and it is. It is today Nine nine three. Am i was. I was produced at long island. Jewish hospital congratulate can move on another year right. He stopped counting after a while. Right it just just recognize today and For the sake exactly. Although i i have had fun i don't i don't even know why it occurred to me but You know people a couple of people texted and said how old i said sixty one. I said i tied roger mirrors s. There you go. that's good. We're heading into our rt's in here Miss start going and my daughter's birthday's in december. My birthday's in december. We've got anniversary in january and you know so it's All we get it all done in a month but it's a festive time. Are you got what. What's what's your. What's your thanksgiving Itinerary how are you guys it. Well you know you gotta check the underground tunnels around here in la. Because we're on curfew really knows what that means. Just got back into town last night from from arizona and i got pictures. People sending me pictures of empty. Shell down the store and he can't go out and i'm not exactly sure what hand penny. Pm to five am curfew means. You're not supposed to be on the street service or that. They want to dot travel so We usually ugo at a town but for thanksgiving. Is you know going to san francisco for years and years throwing joint new york trip getting there once in a while but we will not tempt that But we're headed over to our Needs his house in newport For the day he's gonna cook. He's a great coke and and that's my my wife's Sisters family and the ns and selby. I can't even number because there's this. There's a certain number over here that you can't go or not going to give you the number but it's gonna be a nice gathering and We'll we'll do the we're not. We're not gonna let this stop us. We're gonna have a nice meal and and Enjoy the day but Yeah i don't know what's going on here. Things have changed. Got back from a little rotten to tucson earlier in the week Carrozza course next the next state over now looking around actually met up with martin panza there of course longtime friends. They both went to school there. So it was kinda neat to to reminisce. We actually had dinner with a person. We haven't seen thirty years of lives. Everyone school with and check on them. Some things there and Mostly you know the possible spot eventually. ended up in and looked at a few houses. And things like that. So it's kind of fun doing that and then drove home. Yesterday and boy had a bad burger in yuma. You guys probably listened to the you have kentucky about the top of the food chain. Well we're talking about the bottom of the food when you're stopping for a burger new mayor zona and Anyway so really have not recovered from that. You had to do the old cool over gene. And what's the matter your drive. Man i gotta i gotta try this but Pretty funny laugh at you know. Come up at three days. A great mail in tucson and and You it's her own fall pulled off the field rest. Stop the area with side. That's got you know everything in the world Everyone you know we win and tested a new five a new fast food that we've never never tested before and it wasn't good so The one thing about mcdonald's. As much as i said you know what you're getting and you go so some of the normal that we would stop at of course as you drive across country are not open the regular jimmy's tacos or the pancake place. Or whatever their unfortunate close down so you you kind of stuck with because but We took a little detour. The took the long way home. You can win actually on a couple of roads through southern california that we'd never been on which we like. Well send show and brawley and that you know. They're growing country where a lot of a lot of protesters there and it's dusty and by the salt and see which is a similar to great salt lake in the fact that it's you know it's it's Salinity is up there and Never been by there and it's a c- it's there. It's salt water. That's only five feet deep but pretty long and wide. And i don't know something different so got home. Actually feel a lot better after talking to talk to you. Dr bic As has made us feel better. Yeah looking forward to a little bit of thanksgiving and you know we have this rush at the end of the year. I guess you don't trying to lock down again and do the do the right thing here. So we will. We will pretty much do that. racing will go on and i heard you talking to j a little bit and kind of whole-home week this week but You know del mar Inherited some some really nice races. That would park hat and their turf festival. They've really done a good job to keep it going. And the last week there will be sounds like jay was saying be pretty darn good and even the as long as you got. Things like These maiden races and another get through this week and then yeah the the way that then that festival always I always been going back the hollywood days. I mean this has always been a really around the country in fact hammer that that sort of mel's us into a couple of topics racing office wise that the jay kind of hinted at and when i brought up the The to grade Actually now a great one and agreed to the starlet. And the futurity at los al and i. I was intrigued. That bob marino split them opt for the first time in memory and they're going to be the the first week in the third week of the meat and and you know i thought jay brought up the very germain point about you know three different racing offices handling scheduling and as opposed to what we have for instance in new york where you know three different venues but the same racing office and so some of the continuity and you know there was a period when we first started going back fifteen years it. You would go down del mar and spend the summer in the office. This even predates the The bing crosby me but Talk a little bit about that coordination effort and You know how we sometimes end up. In a in a spotlight this where the the scheduling might have been more advantageous. Had the starlet been another week back. I think could have been a week back. You mean further away from from the breeders cup. And maybe get some of those. When i do and races here and this race delmar to because desi arnez last week the seven per along rates right so i. I really hadn't thought about it until you. I heard you. I looked him up and he went on the theft. And then the other ones on the nineteenth probably probably been bettered later on but but as a whole even though it's brita for racetrax three of her management you know Three different racing secretaries the core of the opposite the same and lot of communication. You know it doesn't. It doesn't behoove to hear who had didn't behoove hysterics banta you know to run rates on top of each other. It would hurt both so I don't know whether whether this was on the target early and it is. I mean this is the great one too i also. The attorney downgraded let believe last year the year before radio so You know maybe it had something to do with it but but totally agree with you. i mean you want you have time because there's really nothing santa anita that you're really running into so put the race a little bit later. Doesn't quote mess with them. So you know. I don't know whether someone didn't catch it or or made it just meta be the no problem make a phone call to anybody and say hey did you look at your rate there Maybe you want to move it a week or two so Sometimes things slip communication. Generally has been good. But you know maybe things of a little bit since zero been. There haven't been there a few years and and these few tracks usually communicate well so You know i. It doesn't the in even even track. Go back to lay back in when that bomb. It's your you know. Three or four or five tracks ee. Leave and then talk and say hey you know. Can we run the molly pitcher on july fourth. Can you give us a week or two. You know in new york maybe woulda just a little bit or delaware. Make sure their handicap was a little bit further off. So you just help everybody when they're in communication now. You can't thankfully you can't please everybody. But like i said sometimes he just asked believes. Can i just my one race and you know. We'll help you down the line or something else. So racetrax All departments and at the racetrack the racing offices. Talk more than anybody Just because we're we're a lot of friends together. We go to committee together. We work on south. We know each other and you know the last will behave. We're thinking about moving the the hassle from august to You know july. We might call up. You know five five racy segregate when you think about that. You've got some good for us. No no no so. Even though sometimes it doesn't appear that way on paper A lot of communication goes on and to this day still does right. We'll talk to you. Know four or five racing secretaries a week just run things by them and vice versa. So of all departments. I think you'll find that. The racing officers can be Talking to each other more than anybody. Service similarly i the the racing office wreck you know the. There's this ongoing hearing that the gaming commission in new york Finally after an extended period addressing the rather unusual set of circumstances involving linda rice and Personnel in the racing office. And i am not. I'm not interested in in discussing the specifics that i i am curious if you could explain the basic protocol because there was actually a very mentioned martin. Van martin had a very interesting quote in dave greenwich piece this week. Where when he when he answered some questions in front of the commission last week and he he said you know about what is acceptable. In terms of the information exchange between those that are taking entries and then the trainers and talk a little bit about those protocols as to you know what kind of information you know what where the line is drawn. I mean in terms of martin said well. You know you might. You might tell a train. Well there's quite a bit of speed in their or your horse will fit well in here and talk about that. I don't think this is a topic we've ever touched on in in fifteen years. Okay here you go. Funny martin with martin. I only asked him one question about the about the deal. Wasn't we weren't there to discuss. I said why did why were you on stage there. You weren't even there when it happened. And he said l. like you said they just wanted some procedural questions and you know what what what does the racing off his generally do so And then i said you know what i'm not i don't want to bring it up anymore. We're here on semi mike time off. Let's let's enjoy ourselves but Yeah you know raking offices having tough job. Yeah we say i mean. We don't put out our job. What your job jobs. Put out an overnight every day. We don't put out an overnight. We all right. And that's the bottom line so it's a grind and you get into situations or you get into times where the cards coming up a little light and guess what time to hustle and what that general term means in in the racing obvious means it's time to to get out the chart book. Look up some races and find some horses that fit in the races. That are light and Most of the time when you write the condition book year you go through it. And i i include a little bit more people in the final edition and maybe a lot to go through every race on every day. Arcos the printer. Wyatt's there should. It be moved to do this and no matter. What when you're done in the book comes out you know that there's going to be ahead of time couple days in there. That aren't going to be as good as they should be. So most of the time you know. What days aren't going to be sparkling. And maybe try to make those days on a wednesday or thursday or from the racist at are gonna work but anyway beyond that So you head into a day and you know you gotta make nine races at ten thirty eleven. You look at the sheet and you. Have you know six races with more than five or six and someone's with three or four and guess what it's time is basically faded meaning when most of the so what you'll do as jewel assign assigned each somebody in their office the race. The you know Larry you think the third rate you bet noise in their larry. You think the third grade and you know try to get a few courses for that. So th there's various stages of quote hustling one is And most of the time when we're hustling horses and if we're trying to find a twenty thousand dollar flavor and it goes along What are we gonna look. We're gonna look at races that are similar to twenty thousand dollar races. You know sixteen to twenty five You know maybe a short that could go along or maybe horses run on the turf that can run on the jerk for that price and let me this by say all racing this is are when they hustle a horse or asking someone about of course. We are only one forces that are physically extent. Never ever would anyone call buckeye guy and say hey i know of art world that did you just put them in doesn't happen it's just the way it is sunny so when i'm talking about this all time. We are under the assumption. That the horse that we're asking for some good shape. The trainer says he pulled a bad last time. Okay fine goodbye. You know never any any. You know that doesn't go on. That didn't want to preface with that. So when i'm talking about calling guy we're we're talking about alive. You know physically fit animals. So don't wanna hear that vote if he's not fit doesn't happen so the point being when we're hoping is most of the time their faith fit into the category there. We're not picking horses out of the air because you're reviewing jeff sharks. I might run shifts in in the same type of rates and you might call up and say the same race as back. Instead of mom sixteenth of a mile young born. You know just got claimed he. You saw that he also for the rape and it might it might throw in there. You know You know the speeds perfect for you know. He's no speed in there you know. Give them this given that it might give them some light information Very light and You know kind of test the waters and there are certain guys that everybody can go to to to that will be the more than likely to put worse than others so that kind of phase one and From there you get it you get a couple of guys might have forgot or were district back then when it gets a little bit deeper in the afternoon There might be a time where we're forgets to to me or to the racing secretary After the guys you have to called back or similar han where. I might have to get on the phone and say hey look This horse it runs many voices. He's ready to you. Know everything's fine. You know you need to put ourselves. We're we're we're you don't you don't have a spot in many times really aggravate you would help. Hey you're not gonna run your yep spot picked out now. You kidding me. Diverse fit so sometimes a little bit more of a squeeze but never. It's never threatening. You don't threaten anybody but you say hey we nearly need the horse in here and then there's times where i might get on the phone and say listen. I need a favor You're not gonna win the race. I need a voice in there if you can put him in and help us. Athletes do things like that To get the car out and it's a little different out here in southern california where where we're on an island and You smart trainer knows kind of who's in there by talking to the jocks agents You know if you know. Mike smith just throw the worst that was second in the rates that similar up in the in the mike smith agent. Hair your free. no. I'm not pre horse. There will obviously that horses going in and this goes on all over the place. The agents A trainer could find out if the four top agents have called. Well then you know he probably figuring out which forces are in there So you know their information given some of some of the stuff. That i would do what i say. Hey look you know go in here. You're you're going to be four to one or you're gonna be eight to one or you're going to be ten to one you pretty honest with these people with what they are but but Which thin line there that you get your you. Don't cross over but you you you you try. Try to let them be. You're trying to be honest with them. And like i said. Hey you're not gonna win this race but we need you to go in and you know some guys just like the ron. Thank very you know. I've got the greatest because he just figured. Hey i'm no workhorse. For let me run through the worth. And i'm gonna get a check and i pay the owners bill and You know some trainers just you know they. They need that they. Just wait for that perfect perfect time when they're three to one and Tops the hustle but every track has a group of of course you know you hate call them day in day out but they look for horses to put in they wanna put horses in And you know hopefully. Hopefully it doesn't go on too many days in Throughout throughout the year. But you have years in you have weeks and months sometimes where you just go through a bad time and you know coming into the day you know you're gonna have a rough day and You know one of the you know the the tip off is going to dame of four at the draw go at the agents. We've got calling the first you know how many people check them up six. Okay let me a third race like two hands go up like a boy so you know. Hopefully the offices semi prepared for you know a hustle day and you get your list rate as many times. Would you know the night before you look up the third race for tomorrow. The fifth race for tomorrow semi prepared and You know it goes on and on it goes takes place at every racing office cross country and You know it. There's nothing you you'll be watching the race of dive in the afternoon. It'll be somebody in the optima yell at come on come on. It's like who's that. And that we i mean we roof talk win and You know the time train on behavior. Baker via barely got some sandwiches. Don't bring it up. You know you know deli sandwiches or something like that but You know like. I said italian most of the time that we raising house the hustle a quote hustle horse. It's fit because that's where you look when you're looking horses up you're not gonna look in the in a five thousand dollar eight to try a hustle a guy for twenty five thousand dollars spread. He's you're not gonna look there So many times are appreciative. And saying you know. Thank victor pushing it this way. I wanted to go seventy next week for twenty. But i'll go twenty five three quarters this week. You know if you guys need me so Know different offices are different. Different locales are different. But you know that that's that's pretty much what it is You know i i. I don't I don't think that. I always thought back when i heard you know. Get friends with that. Only talk about the case or whatever went on there. Wasn't there so. I don't know but did your money. Involved i do is shaking that but You know we we give our little speech before the before not necessarily for me but when when new people come into the office when it's needed as just remember you know anything anything that toward That looks like it might be questionable. Take a step back. Let me know what's going on and and move on but I cannot say that i was. It was a small community where things happened and it makes it it. It is quicker than the internet from when something happens. A california boy they know about new york which going on in the racing officer marketing anything quicker than anything. So you know once You know. I i'm glad to have you taken any money and You know once you go down that pat. I think you're you're good stuff on this side of things and You know that's what happens You know. I don't know what happened out there in the new york office. But but i took the hustling thing goes on today and it's not a fun thing to do That's why you hope you hope your books in in pretty good in pretty good shape but there are days every single racing office in the country at the hospital race every now and then and You know that that's pretty much what happens now. Now we've tried and there's been there's been a little bit of a movement to to get people to do it this way. Why can't you just do it. On the internet now people have divorces and and it sounds great And ten years ago the encompassed group Started coming out with this and there was a bunch of fodder because he just didn't let was too early. It was too early. I mean literally got kimsey melts duty going to see a computer to enter horse not going to happen We're now a little bit further into this. You know computer age. Obviously and people are much more depth to it using their phones and texting things like that. So there's another there'll be another push in the next year or two. You know maybe even have some like kiosks on the backside where a trainer or his agent you go over and you know. Put five blue boy three quarters named the jockey and hit a button and have come in. And that's all fine and dandy and my always. Was you know this is great but we need to talk to these people always said you know. I need to talk to to You know bob baffert when he wants to put a horse in a. And i have him on the phone i can ask him about state. Reckon asking about another horse lives barn. Or you know. Jill d'amato calls up and you know he might have a question. Communication is the number one thing you need to have a lot of things but in the racing obvious for sure so as much as i will will help push along this. This this Electrons inferring and gathering ventures. I think it's great for that but at some point along the line you still need to talk with. It's called horse racing but it's a people business. You really need to know what their plans are for. Not just the interest today. But what's going on down the line and you don't talk to these people then you never got to find out so You know that kind of what happens in a nutshell And like i said every race country to some degree six one one follow up Wreck before we wrap explain also the what what we hear so often about Writing a race for a trainer That you know a trainer helps you fill the race. And then kind of the the quid pro quo in essence might be that you know the that if if another race a race can be written as an extra That you know that will fill and we'll go You know as a as basically a reciprocate Explain how that works. Well first ball When it's conditioned but time meaning The the the current book is coming to an end. And it's time to write the next book. i mean. i personally solicit trainers to make me a list. I would constantly say. Please please give me your list especially from the bigger bars. Excuse me that might have horses. That are coming back from a layoff. That i don't know about or whatever so i will constantly You know i wanna know. Let me know. Hey you know. I don't know everything but give me your lips and some of the bigger foreign would would With you know the the maiden races the allowance you know one other. Dan short long-term those they don't worry about because of they know they're coming in other rotation those are coming again and then over six furlongs. Last time it's going to be you know five six and a half or then you savage. So i if you some sort of rhythm those rates is they don't have to worry about but if there's a goofball race or if they have a comeback row and know about it So i welcome mat on more to your point. sheriff if you once again talk about communication. I got on the phone bother. We need the sixty cows. Dark glamor man. You know ain't no. Yeah you know put the by the way you know like here hear any shots throwing up you know an eight eight short you look at the charts and you look at the plot to go. You know what you know. What no problem but that goes for anybody at any time. But i if if if you making a deal with the source but you can write this extra for me. He'd done right. I'll do it Then even sometimes the okay. Just put it up please. The even if it doesn't go you know. At least i can you know. Say the win. So yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. Absolutely that's part of part of the deal and you're not which understands. Yeah you're putting it up for this guy but if if there's seven or eight or other guys that that need the right and then it's a home run so When you you put the rates up you don't put this race up for people you put the rate up horses and explain that is like oh you made that rates for for this guy. Yeah but the other stick forces in there you're just as happy the race with two so You're not you're not doing it for people you're doing it for the program and if the horses fit and then on the other guy for raith doesn't stay i'll just say hey bob de second work here but i'll definitely put it in the first you know first couple of days or the next book So you know about it. So yeah that's i mean that's that's it. The the the only caveat goes to that and i'm free time when you promised something you'd better deliver it so you promptly guy you're gonna give them a race and you're gonna try and fill it. That's what you do So but that's totally you know. As far as i'm concerned in in the boundaries of you know the ratio operational absolutely That is No i if it helps. It helps everything that we make racist for the horses To make them go so hopefully they're attractive enough. The people bet on him and owners get around the horses and the players. Get to play and you know all that stuff it so You know it's a rough. And that's why i say You know being in it for so long and then take it a little bit of a break and not be a full time at it You know the mind just never stops. You feel agree. I sleep at night. You know. i don't take it home. And you're constantly thinking about that eight claiming that oh my gosh i hope it goes tomorrow and and things like that. So yeah. It's a constant and like i said i think racing offices Or a lot of places and it's the only the only the only thing that matters if you don't come out with an overnight market all you want you could have great peace and sweets and all that but if there's if there's overnight and there's horses running It doesn't work hammer. I appreciate it This this was something we and we've we've i think we've touched on on Writing races but The protocol on the other end Was was worth doing. Because i think people you know i i think people are are reading grants coverage and you know that that's such of that that case With involving linda is a long way off. They'll be you know there's there's going to be A lot more. You know a lot more wrangling. The before when that comes to a conclusion we can maybe go into the other possible. Nefarious stopped michael on. But i don't wanna. I don't wanna go there with this but But like you said there. There's there's there's times when like i said when we more heart and then the guy wins by go. Thank you and you know people want to help not gonna hear thank art veal and always a go. Buy some sandwiches go bring in you know You know buck Trip coach or whatever and You know and so it works out good. You know if you get people get you wanna do this strange sack they wanna be happy they wanna they wanna share their their their happiness make We can eat well. Then we're we're just you know so You know that that we learned that at monmouth park. We had we actually had a lunch. A lunch hustler. The line wanna take last week. It's age usually you just want to go buy some lunch in here. And they would always say well. What do you want it with a book ago. Update how about thursday. Love it but Anyway that That's how it rolls and you know. That's why i was paul. He's always beeping for give us a break. When i said you know i mean a break. I mean break in the racing. It just goes on and on on and on and on and you know listen A week off here. Ten days off. This would ease the pain for everybody. It a little bit easier. So you know i was. You know when you're there you you're full blast here there's one stop and So that just a little break here and their ease the pain. I mean kentucky. they may they just. They just put from track. They went from getting skirt guard perpetrated kentucky down to churchill keelan back church. They don't stop you. Guys are getting into california there. You need to take a break But anyway it's Hopefully in the end the end product is comes out and and You know it's good for the players. Bet on then that's the bottom line. This was very good i. I'm sure people are going to be good response to having covered this off. The happy thanksgiving and we'll look forward to some straightforward handicapping action. The next friday perfect sounds great to have you give it to you all the listeners and enjoy it however you you're allowed to but Just remember that speed. Be thankful for what we have a lot of other things going on. But it's a good time of year to sit back and and Cherish the things that we do have so enjoy everybody camera folks away. They go on your twitter. Let's stay right here. We've got about forty five minutes to fill out the week. And the weekend preview ron gear kink able to join us. And i'm glad. Because ron yesterday with the news of a covid positive in the jocks room at woodbine and everybody Kind of You know on on alert. mto iran. Good morning steve. How are you today. we're okay. And i appreciate the opportunity to talk. I mean i reached out to you first and foremost because it's a nice slate of four stakes on the card tomorrow and including three graded and you know then you know the backdrop of you know some covid concerns Bring everybody up to speed on on where things stand this morning going into the weekend. The i'm optimistic that we'll get the weekend but the the premier of ontario is going gonna make an announcement At three thirty today regarding partial Lockdown of Things in the toronto area and the premiums like the state governor in the canadian version of the state governor so we'll find out then In terms of if that's going to affect racing and and really didn't help that we had our first jockey mas covert This week Now that was the this jockey apparently drew contract contract tracing a he didn't catch cold at the race track. Which is maybe a good thing but anymore. Positives komo jocks room. I mean that's gonna be You know it's going to be trouble. That's probably going to be a shutdown for us. This is Were after this weekend. We have three weeks left in the meat. So we're hoping to get the whole media and But took him pretty dicey at this point a lot to see what the premier says this afternoon and hopefully no one else tests positive in that jackson who was in close proximity. Does this writer thirty all right. Well let's Let's keep the The fingers crossed on that front. And in the meantime Look at what's going on On the racetrack and that includes today too because the frost king for the two year olds and then into saturday's for stakes. Yeah we got a late late post time today. Four forty five is on on fridays. Now and the king stakes for sire stakes for two year olds was delayed. From last sunday because of a weather cancellation and it goes as the eight. Th around eight sixteen and it's not about field it's led by Broke his maiden in a stake recently on the turf and dragons and stakes winner for bob tiller. He's in the field so that's a pretty good nine horse race and If you go back to the six threes on the carter handicap. It's all gray race with Eight to male gray horses in it. Yes the annual wants to those are fun fun that's if hammers still listening that that that's one of those racing office Kind of a boat that That the fans love and if we go into tomorrow the if we start with the late pick for the eighth races. The derby the grocery derby really really nice. Feel down with mighty heart the queen's plate and prince of wales winner running against ballot check who Beat him in the breeders stakes the third leg of the triple crown I think this bell check. I think he's you know he's lately raised. I think there's a lot of upside here. I really like him again to win. But he's not the morning line favorite. It's actually field pass Mike maker Train shipper From churchill Coming up back to back thirds in grade two stakes at santa anita and churchill and ethical heads. He looks like a turf expert buddy. He won his only synthetic start in the jeff ruby stakes. That turkey back on Back in march so. I mean that that was on track. I think that probably track is maybe quite a bit different than the to pete up here but he's you know he's a fairly imposing horse and i think he's going to He's gonna take a lot of money with the comoran named to ride him interesting. Mike maker hasn't run a horse here since two thousand and eighteen when he he had a stable here for the whole year. So he's got like this mini invasion for the whole weekend running into series of states. Here so and the race also has malibu mambo the who is coming front running allowance. When i think he's a clear speed and he he could He could be tough to catch. So on another horse. That i think is with the launch. Chances minim- bile and a deep closer. He's one when three allowances in a row portraying her julia carry with them with the emma wilson. Rioting and contrasts has been riding him. But he's sticking with dollar checks so that's a really good field steven. I like this race. Very much and Kind of cool to have the canadian triple crown participants coming together in ear that that's kind of an added An added fun element. And you know we With cassie you is sprinkled liberally throughout The the stake sequence. It's kinda kinda funny that he ended up getting that that win number three thousand first career but he got it down to calder. W instead of up at woodbine that that worked out that way but An a mighty heart does have new writer rafael hernandez on him. I guess they were unhappy with his his days k. Fukumoto is right in the breeders where he kind of inherited delete and cut hounded by a one shot and faded to seven so Rafael hernandez picking up the mount on mighty heart and he did work them the other day. How that's interesting. The kennedy road goes is the night that features The the remarkable pink. Lloyd and coming back to this body wanted a year ago and Actually how many. How many times does he run the twice one ten in a role i mean not not excluding of course when he was declared a nonstarter in race last year. So that's right can get open. But he's got a ten a legitimate. Henry's win streak going into this race as an eight year old He's he's been off for two and a half months and that's just because there's been a gap in the schedule. A trainer bob tiller doesn't it doesn't want to run on turf. He's never has so An interesting stat about pink quite. He's he's never lost when he's fresh and sixty six for six off a laugh including among that if you re back when so he's really good fresh and got the outside post. I mean it looks. He's the one to beat and yet. This is a terrific field. I mean silent. Poet has been tops. Tur- sprinter here for a couple of years. He hasn't run on synthetic Since two thousand eighteen and early he's never been better than this year. Coming off a win in great -tuni- arctic He's the speed You know really. There's not a lot of other speeding. Go with them and pink. Quite certainly going to have a target to to run down. So what how good he is on thin. Synthetic is just been a guest but Marquette's got ride a comment to the agreed to del. Mar derby winner from two years ago. He both twice on him after that so he he came off a two year layoff on october sixteenth and was really impressive. Winner of second level. Allowance coming from off the pace Going seven eighths with the ninety three byron. Going six it looks a little short form. But this is a really nice source and I think he's going to be closing. Hit the board and who knows maybe could give the other two a run for their money sale. And and you know. I've talked quite a bit About the super stonehenge since the emergence and marcus really been judicious bringing bringing this gelding along. And this is out of. Mrs weber's one point three carats named Such because she cost one point. Three million As a as a yearling And this is a nice horse and going to be five and mark has been taking his time so Feels like the maybe he thinks this could be a coming out party And they'll be forward. I would think from the inside either. Be fine near the lead. Maybe he's gonna try and soften up silent poet a bit on the league so interesting. Tell don't tell mrs weber that The best arabian. Let's get to the seven furlong gray to as well and here is mrs weber. But with trump batta and super escape super escape has made a meal of of these races and comes You know the not comes back stays here actually and you know comes out of two One upset at at two to five and then got beat. The to one by amalfi coast in the sweet briar too but Three to one here. How about Johnson cora and glenn and company with the hill and dale four year. Old painting as well in here There's a lot going on cassie's got The our secret agent for gary barber mentioned mouthy coast. This is another good group. It really is and you could make a case for almost everybody in the race This might be a good all button. In the core of i think maybe amalfi coast might be the favorite just off of the the ninety eight fire. She got last time and the sweet prior to and she had a great trip along the rail that day and She did win the best. Read this race last year When she got really good at the end of last year. And maybe that's going to be the case again this year. So i You know. I think paintings a little low on the morning line to one but She's very consistent and she's always closing for a piece of it. I think maybe my longchamps pick is going to be boardroom. Three-year-old filly whose only lost once and that that was when she She had broken equipment at the start of the race and finished third to already princess coming off a big win. In duchess stakes. I really think she's a really talented up and comer and Princesses in the race to she. Coming off bota. Ten two and a half months layoff for wesley ward. And she's been working like like crazy at Keelan and then here recently and She won the ruling angel. Stay class time. Sort of with the aid of speed bias The day that she beat boardroom. And our secret agent who was also in this field so what a great field day going seven eight. I think it's going to be a super as well. Earlier on the card to the -tario damsel and here again More more l. a. Down on display with kurla luggage about the old wellings and They're they're all over the map to this weekend. We'll talk about the to sunday stakes in a second but Mergel yo- As well in this spot and and a fleet catherine as well for kevin tarte yeah. They've all been running against each other and burger. You finally beat the kirwan's voyage last time in the when she went up i wonder where on the turf kirwan's voyage got into a little bit of trouble that day on the inside and was hurt. First her start so I think it's between those two kind of looks like a fleet. Catherine is a bit over the top but Yeah both going going back to the peter. I think this is a real interesting matchup between those two and maybe could decide champion year. Filling honors This year in canada we go to To really good two year old steaks on sunday. Steve the great tree gray and magazine of course Mrs weber again has the super sensational. Who's certainly the you know in the best two year old filly in canada this year and she's going for first start around two turns You trying to make three for three I think she's to be tough to beat. But i went with the diner. Ready picking on top in the paper just because This is a really nice. Bruce lunceford Homebrew otaphilly who broker made. First time out on turf. She'd be three next winners. That day. And i think she come back and train well on the pita as well so and the really high on this horse and that might be the main threat to Super sensational and there's even a couple of shippers in the race. You have to give a chance to feel of me and that you buy both coming from hill for different trainers or trump bed and emotions so well and macha is a is a well regarded philly from ocean This is an earl mac purchase and keeneland yearling by pioneer the nile. And she comes out of the gentleman at keeneland. Which of course produced a aunt. pearl and botchy We talked to graham at some point And this this came up. She's serious the problem that anybody's gonna have here. I suppose other than the leak links We'll we'll show speed but there's just not a lot of pace in here and You know there's every reason to believe the super sensational based on watching her in those. Two seven furlong wins You know most notably in the glorious song. I mean she. She gives every indication of being a to turn philly so She's she feels like she's gonna lead them on a on a merry chase. You know that designer ready you bring up. This is a tap it Philly out of. Bruce lunceford is really nice. Belair beauty that i'm gonna find did did barbara trained blair beauty or or or frank brothers. I think she there might have been she. Trained stacked deck out of the mare belly beauty. Yes and valentino. Beauty was takes place. She was one of several trainers for valentino beauty and stacked deck with one the great to candy road for her So i i'm not sure if you train the dam but I think feller beauty was was a was might have been one frank Brothers last Last horses The last big horses before he retired. I am not i my certainly remember And this obviously is You know for her to come from where she came from in that in that mile and a sixteenth debut on the grass It's also the race. That produce mrs franco. So yeah this is a really fun mazarine. And let's talk about the gray which has got a field of nine and it looks like there's a number of horses to watch in here that have got big upside. Cassie well represented. I love that mike. Lan ewing Brings barrister tom to town. That's good for her The old wellings who i mentioned earlier. They've got both stephen and haddassah out of their very nice lady. dasa an air force blue gelding. And here's lunceford again. With an english channel ontario bread That comes out of iraqi mayor and Might be okay. There's a lot going on in the great to there really isn't he's a bruce. Royalties adding blinkers bourbon. Mitchell thought he was too back in the coronation last time and he finished the first race after winning his debut going long so You know he might be in with a longshot. Chance I kinda like the to Welling horses dasa and stephen and they both. They worked together last sunday. And one on one and a cocker told me that had asked actually went to a little better than stephen An interesting that they went back to back races on coronation. Pitcher day When steven one the coronation and then dasa broke his maiden race before with with higher buyer with seventy nine with a great Trip along the inside So those are two Two promising there on -tario breads queens plate type courses for next year but With cassie has the unbeaten helium. He's going along for the first time after winning the display stakes and He's by he. He's got an interesting pedigree by ironic to winning turf millionaire who he shouldn't mind the stretch out and then his other another horse easy time the not this time. Horsey one is. I start going seventy but the seventy two buyer i mean. I don't think he'd beat that good of field that day. But he's another source you should. You should like stretching out so very very intriguing. Race this one. Well that's on sunday and these are these are the gray in the mazarine Always productive so we look forward to it and what a nice what a nice weekend just We hope that Nothing interrupts the you know the final few weeks of the meat Ron ron. I really appreciate this Because the seeing that story yesterday was a little alarming. it's concerning for sure You know let's hope we get this weekend in and go from there. See what happens now and i. I'm gonna confirm because it's the way i am Indeed frank brothers did train belair beauty and that included a win in the in the valley view. Two thousand and seven and the nice. She was an ice kelly. In fact i think frankie even that she come to saratoga remember that but the issue won the also bodies as it has a two year old so There's there's some you know there's some two year old Steak kospi Looking at At designer ready in the mas- marine ron gear cake I can't wish you happy thanksgiving because yours was in october. So i just have to keep working. I hope exactly rod gear. Can everybody the daily racing form and run the tremendous Tremendous coverage of the action in in and around toronto and ontario racing and We don't talk too often about it. But ron's got a strong pedigree when it comes to the standard bread side as well ron gear king. Everybody let's stay right here. We've got twenty minutes to close out the week and nick camera gonna join us next. Good morning neck the morning. We're what are you at at at four seasons landscaping. What what Was casey told me that it wasn't allowed. No i'm i'm standing on the randa. Um and now. I think we're in a better spot. Now the verandah the nice nice is it is you are in texas. So they're they're they're. I guess they're people could be doing yard. Work out there. Oh absolutely beautiful. Take let's be seventy five or Long range forecast for seventy eight on thanksgiving so yeah we'll This is the time of year where i can make. You somewhat jealous but don't contact me exactly. Well let's First of all i gave the recap on yesterday and the you know the funny. The five was not a substantial sequence. It paid the under three hundred but there were there. Were a couple of spots where you know you. You had to make sure to be a little wider covered. You warned about him bree. I i'm not sure you use them but you know you made everybody aware that that he was a bit of a danger in the nightcap than anchor leg yeah and mike makers aren't obviously going incredibly. Well but yeah that sequence was probably a couple of heads and necks away from being you know multi thousand dollar return Princess fawzia starting at eight to one. I think this is actually one of those days where we frequently talk about. How horse in these sequences ends up playing a lot. More actually thinks she played like a lot less I don't think she played like eight to one because even even with the chalky results after her the returns in the nightcap were are the anchor leg in the sequence. I should say we're we're all pretty moderate Pretty modest at best. So yeah you know if bourbon currency catches duress if storming lion loses the photo in the The first leg churchill. Then you're talking about a different sequence but really played out a lot like we. We figured you were able to use the the to palomina and sequent in the fourth leg just to get through that and they were each even money covey c. sequin getting the best her with to blowing the break and yet ended up being a little under three hundred dollar return. If you hit it good I was alive to gun it a few times. And you know. I've grown quite accustomed to being allowed to the best source that ends up finding a way to lose because he was clearly best looping up three ride on pace that was hot enough to really send the other two packing and And then he got nailed late. So yes it's it's always fun when you end up losing sequence because you had a horse ridden by julian peru that was overly aggressively written. Don't see it Too often well Lunar eclipse right. We come back. We got two options To three cracks at it today tomorrow and sunday when it comes to this cross country today. the aqueduct. Seventh churchill theft. The aqueduct eighth the churchill sixth and the akwa duct ninth tomorrow. It's acqueduct eight nine. Then churchill seven ecuador ten churchill nine. And we've gotten some thoughts mardi and from scully for tomorrow at churchill. We'll get your saturday anything for today. Real quick Then the sequence any suggestions you know. I think i think as far as sequence goes. Today is the eight. You're going to have to decide what you're doing with the drop. A dream friend who figures to go off pretty heavy favorite coming off a good race at saratoga but not dropping in for tag and i think we've seen john terranova start to try and turn over some of his stock act this meeting. He had a big win with the fan girl a couple of weeks ago. Doing something somewhat similar to this. So i would imagine even with turf season ending the line to claim during friend might be relatively long especially for anybody going to florida or going to point south where he could still race on the turf towers the field on paper. So i mean if he if he's aureus than i think it makes the sequence quite a bit easier The night is a very tricky one mile race on the turf and you know when full profit and i have a soldier come out of the same race. I feel like slightly prefer. I've soldier of those two. I thought that maybe being pressed into setting the pace was not the most scenario. I feel like she's probably going to be a bit better with a target. You're going to have to use those to fear scarlet. So i think you can get out of there probably three deep. I would say that you have to fear reporte just a bit given that. She's got so much speed and was aggressively ridden. Last time. we'll see posey or teeth. Wants to take the same approach that science than last time. But you know science really got into a groove riding horses aggressively There's a bit of underpaid potentially from gogo shoes and Short poor so those were kind of the liens that i saw at acworth to seven is a very very tough race. The new york red allowance race. And i think you could go a variety of different directions. I didn't really have anybody that stood out I thought that you probably wanted to try. Play tone who was a little bit against it tastes like last time and george weavers barn has cooled off a little bit but really got going towards the end of the belmont meet forgotten heroes that a lot of speed louis. Cardinals is also one. That's been writing a lot more aggressively. I think he'll put her in the makes you would really has got speed a fair eavesdrops in class for red hot barn in rob actress. I know some people might see in their. Pp's actress for ten but in a couple of wins yesterday. One of which was a big upset from the commissioner who fifty some odd dollars. So i think you'll see his forces continue to run well and that looks like fun race. Miss jimmy is actually moving to johnson's ghana's care and and we've all marveled at the consistency of miss. Jimmy who got really just seems to run her race every time and other than a fifth-place finish where she didn't get the most ideal trip to back in a mile. She's been remarkably consistent. So i think she's one that you can find a way to get on your ticket very cool all right. Let's turn toward Tomorrow and Nice That's a nice pick five sequence But both of the as i try to combine. Let me see there. We go as i put them side by side. Get new york. Friday out of the way okay. put them side by side as you've been as you've been stressing really since we got past breeders cup. The the cards in new york have been terrific and now that We seem to have gotten some of that wet weather behind us. You know the both turf courses are going to be in a utilized as much as possible and so you know you look for instance at tomorrow's really the late pick five sequence which starts with a mile and a sixteenth race for two year old Phillies open company Starts the pick five. I mean that is terrific. Then there's The the non to that we're in with chocolate the seventh You've got a state bread. Allowance going six on the dirt than the red smith which came good for late season and Then a closes out with a fairly typical new york bred maiden forty so very attractive. Pick five tomorrow. In new york and at churchill we got the two races the seventh and the nine That are part of the pick five that night thing that you lucky and one of those optional claimer starter allowances as the seventh. So nick attack Attack the combo action as you As you well. The five o'clock is actually is very very strong. As you alluded to and again. I mean you can't can't Can't thank the racing office enough for the job that they're doing. They're putting quality cards day after day. And you know this is an interesting six in that you have freedom of the press coming back off a maiden race on closing date saratoga where she was Almost placed first via disqualification when love's truck created some trouble in midstretch. That day. I think it was a marquette horses. Love-struck came out and hit in stretch and freedom of the press was the phillies that she ran down. Chat brown's giving her some time now comes back into mile and sixteen. Rosario actually obser- different horse but God gets on. This is a horse. You should be a pretty heavy favorite. Interestingly rosario is on our delacour dame of malta dame of malta is out of busy caroline. Who was a stakes winner on the turf and is a hassle lady. Eli so the i. I don't necessarily want to say the interesting thing but the odd thing about it is they graduate. Civility union rags. Who's perhaps the worst turf influence of any major stallion out there. Right now his progeny first time turfed or hover around four percents. So it's not a great scenario from a pedigree perspective but this is a horse who are no delicate. Who i think is very very sharp entered for turf debut. Didn't get there and it was rained off at keeneland during that final stretch of the meat. And so we'll see what she can do getting to the turf. I think you're gonna wanna focus your action on freedom of the press the not that you referenced. The kid chocolate is in is a very competitive race. I think you can go a lot of different directions Give a horse like hard. Cow is owned by handy goldfarb. Who's runners have been doing very well. both in the care of robert falcon and rob address but again. You're you're looking chat browns for favouritism here with traffic pattern. Who comes off a third place finisher to similar level. They don't write thirty nine. Twos at belmont akwa condition only and so this is taking a theoretical dropping class. Beat catcher is also first time turf. I think you can expect him to run well. So the good thing is. I think in those first two legs. You don't have to be terribly deep and that takes you to this eighth race. That's really a lot of fun. And i think i think the main question that has to be answered here is the performance that rick and put forth last time sort of signaled that he's on his way out and rick and has a horse that had run well consistently between belmont couple of sir. Toga were just okay. But you know he was coming into that race in good form and he just didn't have it. We didn't have any speed. He couldn't really keep up with south africa. And some of the other jerry. The nipper early tired pretty abruptly. Now we've seen dave dogs runners do a lot better at acqueduct. But you know that's the kind of performance that makes you wonder if If maybe the clock struck midnight on rick. And the reason why i talk about that at length is because they're avenger is absolutely loosen. Its rates that britain has the speed and adventure actually ran a very race at laurel. Last time against open company. He was thirty three to one coming back off a layoff and and ended up wiring that field. So you know we'll see if he's got that same kind of early foot if he does. I think he's going to be very dangerous. Demography improved in the care of marquette. Glass got back to some of the best races. He's right in the past came from well off. I would imagine he'll be moving late. And i think you're gonna wanna focus. I'm gonna focus your on four or five seven caserta pal. It's clearly the horse to beat. Been in good form going back to saratoga and of that dig maiden win. That turned out to be a pretty key race. He ended up running a good third against open company before winning at the starter allowance level. So he set up well to be in the in the one other condition. I thought the ninth in terms of covering the aqueduct is i. It's obviously stadler's joys race to lose and you know sadler's joy and and joel rosario could just be a match made in heaven. This is a horse that had the style. That joel fits so perfectly and you think about how he's gonna get a decent enough pace in here a mile three eight hundred probably his best trip not that a mile and a half is any kind of problem. But i think he's been most effective at that mile and three eighths journey. And i think it's gonna play out similarly the last year's red smith where he'll get a setup and he'll come with his big running i think he ultimately proves to be too much for these. There's a a four horses. Coming out of the sycamore The one two three four finishers read night. Postulations ziad in north dakota and there's something to like about each of them postulating obviously can be forward replaced North dakota got into a little bit of trouble down. The stretch corey lottery was trying to come up the rail which is something. He's known for doing and ended up hitting the fence. Which was the problem around the eighth pole. I don't know when push comes to shove. If north dakota is quite good enough the horse that i was interested in his eye on and if you watch the replay closely as they go into the turn zayat who had been wide. The entire way was really covering the entire field. He's sort of got lost on the turn and it looked like he might be an international horse that really wasn't used sharper turns they're gonna it's basically going to be the same kind of sharp turn that turns it. He's facing here. But now graham has had a little bit of time with this worse he had no time with them. At all. coming into that sycamore. He'd only gotten him roughly a month before that race. But he's put a couple works into Share hill and so. I think this run quite a bit better. i'm gonna use read night and sadler's joy a seven joys the main course i'll probably back up with red night and ziad because i really don't think the winter can come from anybody else but it certainly is a. It's an interesting group The nightcap is a complete mess but state bread maiden claimer for forty s and brick is probably going to be the favorite. You know berko found a way to snatch defeat from the jaws victory to back at saratoga when myself and plenty of other people needed him Freedom whiskey came up the inside and beat him at forty some onto one and then he came back and ran kind of a dull refined vinik each most of jimmy. Johns barn underperformed at belmont. They haven't really gotten going back up. So you want to be careful with all of these horses but at the same time you have to acknowledge that this source with his best efforts is just going to beat this field. I would say that if you're if you can afford it you want to include horse like spiritual king who's gonna be ridden aggressively from the outside. There's other speed but this is fast. And if barry peterson doesn't ask just in time for wine for speed out of the gate. I could see spiritual king having a very good trip. forward replaced. I think you probably have to include bielfeld who moved aggressively and early to back Faltered a little bit late but again it's a horse with some of his best efforts who can be competitive here as far as churchill goes. I really like these two races. They have in the the cross country sequence tomorrow the seventy six furlong race for fillies and mares optional. Claiming started allowance type. And you know i i. I'm always a little bit hesitant when it comes to backing a ten pound bugs but i think parking ticket had some things going for. She really had no shot with a trip. Last time ended up wide Didn't really make much of a late run. That was a day where you needed to be inside as you get most of those first few days of churchill in this fall me to back she ran a very good race to get up in time against similar keeneland. I think you're gonna get an inflated price on this where she was fired to one. Last time i think price is going to drift north of ten to one. And i definitely want to find a way you include her. I think you have to use. Just fly off the claim who's in very good form. Kissel is obviously dangerous. It looks like there could be a pace in here which means you probably want to consider cold into hair. Don't love cleaning tommy. But this is another horse very good form. Who really if she just duplicates her last race can win and go into that anchor. Leg of the sequence has a terrific race. And i like a couple of horses that are going to be good prices. I'm gonna use finite very well in the raven run. I think that one turn mile might ultimately be what she's absolutely perfect at distance wise. But i can't ignore whoa nelly and the too good races that will ellie ran at oaklawn earlier this year when taxi should have won the by a caller but joe rocco was just a little too aggressive in worrying about the front runners and gogel yourself ended up getting her late but i encourage anybody to give seminars on the outside of very very long look. This is a horse who was close to an extremely fast paced last time. Look through the chart and see where the horses that were placed in that race ended up finishing finishing and one of them was talked to me. So it's not as if there were a couple of big long shots that were setting that pace that ended up tiring late. Talk to me was basically the favorites as she was part of a couple of entry with gold standard to nina's was in there battling the entire way she was jammed inside ended up making a split midstretch it was race to completely collapsed so it had a huge outside flow to it and the want you finishers ended up coming from around the outside. They were last the next last down the backstretch. This is the epitome of a pace. Play that i wanna make. This is going to get a good trip stocking outside. I don't think the pace will be anything near what it was in that race. I think you've got risky. Mandate maybe and crazy sexy money will show some speed. But i could see some nina's getting an excellent trip from out there and i think she should be every every bit of fifteen to one or so and that spices up to sequence quite a bit and you know i. I touched on the presence. I mean. just the fact that Mccarthy it's very interesting what's happened in kentucky. In fact i you and i talked about it or if who had came up with A while back this of of california horsemen. Have you know kind of made things interesting. And then i. I mentioned this to marty. You know with the you know the horses the bill. Motte has got in kentucky and then chad brown sources in kentucky. It's really made for you. Know some some interesting malaj of horseflesh in these spots. It really has and i wondered who is conditioning. Some of these sources including that. Nice that nights richard baltimore sources name escapes me right now. It's a very short name like icon or or something like idol Who want to who want to one other than a couple of weeks ago. He broke his maiden in september. After debuting i believe on dirty day. Derby day on oaks day and you wanna mile and three sixteenths race and i think the clark might be a little tough but you know that's of course. I think who you could see in stakes races. If he ends up relocating to california. And yeah i i think the biggest surprise was all of it is that they've stayed. You know these sort. It's no surprise that these came over. In the spring you know in santa anita was getting towards the latter part of their meat. And then you've got the loselle portion of southern california racing. But yeah i mean. They're all there and unique factors and other examples. She's been in the midwest the entire season so mccarthy obviously has left the nina's churchill she's been training consistently i would guess with an eye on this subject Maybe a horse that they're looking forward to continuing to try around one turn. Maybe see if she can get some graded black kites and the to. Lucy was often a race where i remember in two thousand seventeen. I was churchill watching the breeders cup and it was a race where like six horses that ran in. It were entered in the sale because it was run on on breeders cup weekend but of course sales now happened. There are additional ones coming up. But i see this horse a really excelling. I think at this trip. So she's going to be a good price and mccarthy's a guy who i respect quite a bit and who's not a lot of success not only in southern california but in kentucky this year. Yeah that's The saturday look for their the cross country and the late pick five at akwa docked and then on sunday the academic seventh churchill fifth acquiesced eighth and tenth and then back to churchill For the eighth so acqueduct seven eight ten churchill. Five an aide. So it's kind of a long. That's a a lot of these. Been nice league Sequenced you know. So that they more or less get over in the in under two hours or hour and a half or so Sunday sunday looks like a fairly a fairly long affair. Let me see the aquidneck seventh would be about two forty five and the churchill eighth four thirty six terrible two hours. Two hours or so Neck next week will. We'll come back for friday because it's just too big. There's too much good racing Including the clark and everything going on at del mar and new york to even though new york is kind of spread out the holiday fest concept Over the the end of just end of november and into the early part of december couple of weeks and even though the the cigar mile and ramsden demos elephant moved to the first week in december. I think you still have a good weekend racing. The police the long island the acronym turf sprint championships. Because i mean you're looking for as much as possible. We we can get before the end of season show. Yeah it'll be good. It's a good few days. Nick tammaro everybody and tam one two one five and neck we will love you and the girls are very happy. Thanksgiving family and We'll recap the dining experience next week and everybody listening. Can't wait and we'll talk to you next week. Steve nick tamra folks and tam one two one five. The best that takes us to the top and Send you out into the weekend. Start to do your planning a lot of good feedback to kneel klinberg's visit as everybody starts frapp starts to do some shopping metoo for thanksgiving and i appreciate everybody. Try to thank everybody online but thanks so much for the birthday greetings and the case another good week and we will Take swing tomorrow with you. Talk to you on monday. Thanks everybody enjoy the weekend. Exchange apple with feedback on sirius. Xm radio don't miss. A second of thrilling live racing from ecuador. This fall on america's day at the races on fox sports watch maggie wolfendale andy stirling in the entire all star cast bring you the best of all racing live from ecuador for full tv listings visit. Ny ra dot com.

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Part 3:Nick Tammaro, Mike Welsh, Steve Andersen

"Why are incentives and bonuses. Are the best in north america. Please visit us at pa. Brad dot com nc. Pennsylvania is the premier place to breed them race. Now back to at the races. With steve vic on sirius. Xm radio in a one horse open fields. We go laughing. All the way avails on bobtail making spirits. Bright is to ride and sing singing song tonight. Oh jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way oh not it is to ride at a one horse open sleigh gene goo bells jingle bells jingle all the way it is one in snake conventional version Diana krall go and shot him no. I'm not i'm not. She's all right. Donna calls all right. That's it enough. Thanks stage i. I'm evelyn. I've always been an ambivalent when it came to diana krall service. Yeah i don't know that's a separate debate. Let's we're not ambivalent about nick. Tammaro and tam one two one five. Good morning morning my friend. How are you i'm good. I'm good I'm just trying to think if we had anything any cleanup on aisle three anything from last week. Not much i mean. I don't think we saw anything to notable in new york the performances all in all were were solid and we didn't talk a whole deck. We talked to some extent about churchill but I mean. I think one of the things that i would mention now and we'll talk a little bit more about it. There's really only one horse that that fits this topic of conversation. Is that the breeders cup alums that came back and ran at keen at the churchill. Last week fared poorly. Perhaps it being only three week turnaround versus for a could have made a little bit of a difference but i did think simply ravishing underperformed pretty dramatically india goldenrod and and king fury who don't want to be too tough he underperformed a bit. Of course keep me in mind performed really well so it. It's a performance well from standpoint of that. He won his buyer. Figured they'd go down by over ten points so we'll talk about that a little bit with forensic fire but yeah. I mean thinking about the ecuador action. I thought the mrs danvers is probably the story of the weekend and looks to be a horse that that could be a real player in the distaff division in. Twenty twenty one. I saw a little bit of Discussion that took wants to get her to the apple blossom. Somehow you would imagine that if modern girl is back in training that's a potentially an early season objective for her so that could be a battle that we see right off. The bat could end up. Seeing muslim girl may be taken to churchill for another laterally and rather than having the to toughen objective early. But yeah. I mean you would think that would want races like ogden. Phipps and the personal ensign for mrs danvers. Next year. who maybe is now finally getting to fulfill that potential that we all thought she had as a two year old last year. That was very impressive. Things our own way on the front end. And i think that it. It certainly led to an exaggerated Winning margin and maybe speed figure as well but Yeah no doubt about it. She's equality horse. Well let's let's not waste any time and get some opinions for tomorrow. Yes the card that we sort of. Look forward to in the fall at aqueduct. And it'll be i think the unofficial end of of at least a top level racing last grade one of the year the next grade one. We'll see you'll be the carter on wooden memorial day and the greatest takes portion of the card Starts with the fourth rhames and is just to five so it's not included in the late. Pick five interestingly. I think it's a it's a five horsfield. There's really only one horse that you can make virtually no case for winning and that's erawan. I think that if you wanted to you could certainly make a case for picking time known agenda brooklyn strong and ten for ten. I prefer ten for ten of those four. I think that he was pressed into the the most difficult type of trip last time in going into lead in the national along the inside and ended up tiring a bit late picking time more him down late ten for ten really went down grudgingly and and i think in a situation today tomorrow where he'll be able to control on the front end. I think be very very dangerous. Of course we have this forecast for rain tonight this afternoon tonight and into tomorrow and that could render the track sloppy and i mean in my opinion i think ten for ten is going to go off the favorite here no matter what Shouldn't get sources are just so heavily. Bet every single time. And i think if this track comes up sloppy he'll be bad even more heavily based on the sloppy track wind to back so i thought he was strictly the one to beat. i feel like known agenda is that has a big chance. Obviously having on the trip it helps. But you know i i. Don't i think it was a situation last time where he greatest honor were prepared and equipped to go mile nathan. Nobody else was. That's why there was a twenty one length break between second and third. I think picking time will be hard pressed to backup that win in the national where he really had a perfect trip stocking outside rating off the hot pace and then finishing up I don't think the added ground will be a big problem for him. But i'd be more willing to to bet against that. And i think ten for ten controls this race from the start that that's my feeling i. Just the you know specially going a mile underneath it. he he he gets the you know he gets the control things from upfront. Let's i don't think it's a think it's much of a head scratcher. What else yes late. Pick five get started with the gopher for wand. And i guess i should. I should at least throw in a little bit of conversation on the fifth because the brain boasts or the empire. Six is getting paid out tomorrow. this is a race where you find yourself answering the question of how much you wanna trust summer brew. Who really is an awful over four and she should have won to back against party. Pages hung like lear and last time was wired by ninety nine to one shot that you know you still felt like when they were coming off the turn summer abreu was gonna find a way to beat her and she didn't and that seems to be a recurring theme for her. Maybe being inside was a bit of a negative but She's the horse to be as little confidence as she inspires. I think you have to use law. Bonna as well who was a good second. Most recently got involved in a super hot pace in on debut and a horse. That looks like she could probably move forward a bit. You know the longer shot types of you probably wanna consider a to me. Include marie as gift. Ray handles very good with second time. Starters not so much. Viewing runners. And i think she showed a little bit of life early before tiring on debut and destination winner sir as Daughter stormy smile a palley home-bred stormy smile of course a very talented running for charlie baker These are horses that all the way. Back to dominic luccio and This is a family. That's been very very solid. So charlie baker not really known for having. I was ready to go. But this is a horse that you could probably included a big price the go for wand i think for pick six and pick five players. Mainly you're going to have to some are going to have three gonna use three. Because i'm gonna use puerto creek as well but The winter this racist supposed to be there. No no model in sharp star as much as i would like to pick portal creek. I don't know if she's quite good enough. What i'll say is that she should control the pace in this race. And i think that would make her very dangerous. She's clearly a different horse. once he's able to get things away on the front end. Not madeline was bad and turn back the alarm. She didn't really take any money early and ran a race. I think it was very underwhelming. She's in a bit of a good race batteries pattern. This would be the good race if that pattern continues. But you know i i don't know just how good she is and i know that sharp star ran a race last time that i mean if she runs ninety percent she's going to be very tough and i think puerto creek has that potential pace advantage. So i'm going to end up using three there the seventies race likely to be taken off the turf. If it's on the turf. I have maybe one clever idea. I would use madame mclean and wicked amber along with fetching. I think that we could do was extremely wide last time on on a period of time where you're needed to be inside on the turf. She's actually run their best races on turf at acqueduct. Madame mclean looks like a potential loan speed as this race does not have a great deal of pace. It's more likely to be run on the dirt. And i think if that ends up happening you want to use the twelve sweet kisses fourteen prairie fire. Fifteen jump for joy Jump for joy and prayer and sweet kisses likely to be forwardly placed along with forgotten hero. That should really set things up for prairie fire. Who likes to come from a little bit off of it. And i would think we'll get the the right kind of set up as far as the eighth race goes. Wasp is a big favorite likely winner. Candy winner last time at second asking on a sloppy track. Obviously if the track does come up with a bit of moisture you can upgrade her chances. A little bit. Interestingly courageous girl in bloomington lady who were among the vanquished behind the sharp star last time are back in here. They were the second and third place. Finishers courageous girl is definitely at her best at a mile. I don't think there's a sharp star in this field to make things particularly tough on her. So i think you want us both of those also rans behind the big winner. Amos was an impressive winner on the dirt last time and really has run three dirt races that make her competitive speed figure perspective in this field so i think you wanna find a way to get her on your tickets and one more. I wanted to mention his pure bodey. Who is the daughter of voting meister out of the blue hen mare pure disco for patricia generosity the the late of generosity oh family and pure body is half to pure sensation. Here's station of course. Was that his absolute best. Sprinting on the turf but pearson station was one of the choices in the woody stevens in two thousand fourteen. So he's a horse who was perfectly good on the dirt Was very capable of doing it. He was just better on the earth. And so i keep your vote. He actually running well on a potentially on on dirt and specifically on a wet track the demos l. to me looks like a two-horse race mollazade is supposed to to control it from the inside how hard you'll have to work to get the early. Lead will likely have a direct correlation to how the race ends up being run and who ends up winning and i think if you believe that she's going to get a little bit of of pace battles and it's pretty clear what you're gonna do. You're gonna take mill foy. Who looks like a horse. That's just crying. Extra ground won't have any problem handling it whatsoever and finished her last both of her first two starts including her last racist if a furlong or more was was well within reach so i'm expecting her to To run well and i think she's still got a tremendous amount of upside. I don't think there's a big gap between mal thought and meal foy and and for me. That is definitely gonna take me in the direction of the ladder from an interest perspective as far as multi go. I think you use those two. And you hope the carioca at traffic lane dollar mountain cafe society although sources malibu curl put a little bit of pressure on thought as you can certainly bank on rosario taking meal back in the opening stages and you know the cigar mile is a it's certainly not a star-studded bunch by any stretch but performers a horse that we've all kind of held out hope over time could be really talented in in graded stakes spots his winning. The discovery was solid because taxes horse. That kept good competition throughout twenty nineteen. Obviously things have not gone performs way in in twenty twenty You know let's not kid ourselves. He beat too high level clamours last time but he did it pretty easily and it was just a starting point for his twenty twenty campaign as funny as that is being that it's december already but this is a horse. i think who obviously has a lot of upside. He did not get any favors done to them at the post decision draw. I don't think rails are particularly good thing for him. He's gonna have to work out a trip. Which i think rosario will certainly be able to do and there's some real competition towards the outside. I'll be honest. I'm very concerned about. Mr buff wiring this field. I think mr buff is considerably. Better horse at acqueduct. He's now back in form. He's quick enough to establish the lead in here and You know believe me. He's run pace figures that if he performs at that level. You know just kind of the race that he ran in the jazz will and to a slightly lesser extent in haynes field if he puts those kind of pace figures up. He's going to bury everybody in this race. So don't allow yourself to be beaten by mr buff. My top pick. If i was making one would be guillermo. I know that it seems a little too clever with him. Coming off the layoff. But he seems to be training forwardly. He's a horse. That ran well fresh in tampa derby obviously wanna villa prefers to run this source off of layoffs. I thought he actually acquitted himself. Very well in the arkansas derby off the upset win in the tampa derby. I think he can be ready off the bench. I think he's going to get a great trip starting from the outside. So those are my main three. I'll use true timber and forensic fire has backups. I really can't see anybody else in the race. Winning and my thought on forensic fire y. I'm really only interested in using the backup is because i don't like the quick turnaround off of the breeders cup and i don't care for the way he's become kind of a one run sprinter as i really don't think those kinds of horses excel going the mile and i think he'll end up. You'll end up probably a little too close and not really have that good late punch. That's worked when he's been at his best nice. My one problem with mr buffa isn't isn't true timber going to be employed aggressively by Carwash yeah i think so You know. I don't know it's it's i don't know because he was yes. He was written very aggressively in the forego. And then he was very passively in the vasbert. So i don't really understand what they wanna do. I think when push comes to shove they'll be happy to let mr buff have a length on them if they can be outside talking. So that's that's my. I think mr buff has to be written in such a way that it's like get deleted all cost type of approach. And if you've gotta go forty five and four what you hope. Is that everybody's close enough to you that you're going to bury them as well so no i don't i don't i don't think there's any question that that's a. That's something that will have to determine the good things that if you're if you're taking mr buff and that's one of your big concerns you're getting six five or six to one on him you know if you're taking a horse like that at two to one or five to two it's it's a bad approach I feel like this is the kind of race where you could look up and think to yourself so performer. Off a granted. Certain clearly oppressed a starting point. But you know having beaten musical heart and empty tomb after beating taxing little tots crystal tops. A couple of times was the favourite in grade one albeit a grade one. What was i doing betting him. You know that's that kind of is stuck in my mind and don't get me wrong. He can win I just don't i my blood's boiling tibet performer. At eight to five in this kind of race. They're not so i get it. finally I mentioned earlier. I when you came on. I would one more time remind everybody. Five o'clock cut off to sign up on naira bets for tomorrow's cigar mile challenge. Five hundred dollar buy in two fifty to the prize pool. Two fifty bankroll and to nec seats available. Yeah that's just going to be the final contest of the season these These weekly contests even doing have been great. I hope they look at doing something like that in the in the spring But there's going to be the last one. It's five hundred dollars. Two hundred and fifty two the bankroll two hundred and fifty two the entry fee. The to fifty. You bet fifty dollars five times. So i don't think it's too much to ask on a ten race card and obviously you can get those fifty dollars. Minimums out of the way with show. Bets are placed bets in order to get yourself to where you want to put a little bit more effort into it and you can Get qualify for the nhc. There's two spots available and and if you're listening right now and you qualify for the nhc in tomorrow cigar mile challenge. I can guarantee you can have a photo with steve. The nhc there you. We'll we'll probably bosa can find a way to print it. We'll probably both autograph and you'll probably fast as possible. But i think much enticement as we can offer right we could we could. We could also We could also volunteer taking The winters out for for a meal. in vegas no question about a- absolutely whoever if you if you qualify for the in tomorrow cigar mile challenge. You're in and i can. I got a lot of players to be named later. Throw into that dinner too so once you finishers from this year's bbc are likely to be there too. Nice exactly that's right. That's absolutely the good point nick tomorrow. Everybody and tam one two one. Five neck Good luck this weekend. We'll talk next appreciate it. Thanks a lot good luck. Everybody nick camera folks was staying right here. We got Twenty minutes so ten minutes with mike welsh. Ten minutes with steve anderson mike morning. You know one thing. We didn't do the other day Was remind everybody you know ahead of the start of the gulfstream winter season Sign up for the clock report. Well you can do that anytime. It's still available. It's going to be available daily and what options daily weekend And season policy. This year. I was hoping i could get them to To have at selby copy. But i haven't been able to accomplish that yet but they sell them by the day. The we ten you can buy ten by twenty. You could buy forty. And i'm hoping they put up that option to purchase the whole beat before it becomes a moot point we get too far into the beat but I'm not having any success there but anyway it's available and there are a lot of options that the more you buy it You know at a time. Obviously there the less they cost per copy so dot com slash blocker. And you'll figure out a way to get it done nice monthly quarterly Etcetera and Ten twenty forty up there it is. It's awesome the link. Actually it's just easy dot com slash clunker and that takes you right to it and from that point Let's let's get into this and Mike i also Before we talk about any of the races. I got an interesting Email somebody wanted me to ask you if you had any follow up news about the allowance winner of ronnie spats From i think closing weekend at calder. I get it. It's get stormy that ran a nice allowance race going to turn on the grass. Yeah you know it. Kinda got lost in the shuffle. Just timing wise coming saturday then you know. our next. To addition of the paper was going to feature opening day. Here we get into the beat. So i actually was over there watching the race about ten feet from ron who you know in. The early stages was not too happy with his position at expected to be that far last but it all worked out in the end. It was very impressive. Performance and I up time when things quiet down here. You know once we get a little bit into the beat here. We get through. The clamp crowded. Everything i'll talk to him and see what he's thinking but I'm sure there's a three roles stakes over here. he's gonna be i For her next. Start i i know. He was using the races of barometer to see where to go with her. Wants to main meat open whether to try and get steaks property or you know. Drop her in. Maybe for seventy five tag and that question was certainly answered. well yeah. I would say i've got. I think a setting a seventy buyer and we'll we'll watch i. I appreciated The email and Let's talk a little bit about This this fun card There's two maiden specials. I talked to people about some of the Pedigrees are on display in that first and third race Extrapolated auction In that we were sensitive to so I think there's just a lot of potential ways to go in here. The heart narrow either as down to just a couple of contenders I would think because you still at the mercy of whatever kind of trip to get if you settle in on something you really like. So i actually went for the emotion. I is in both races. I like you know the pattern that works. I like the breeding and You know. I think graham there could be pause for big. So he's He's always wanted to follow down here well and outside. I told everybody to take special. Look at that. Career baby mocha the coffee. Click philly. The uncle from the amens and brian lynch lynch gave us a a laundry list of two year olds earlier. This summer and He he mentioned This one i see you picked the you picture third. The thirty only reason is because there were lack of experience in the morning on the graphs i mean. She only had that one which looks like maintenance work in palmettos. Everything else has been the dirt. I think i did say that. From breeding standpoint. She was probably the best one in here But the little bit of a question. Mark with with such a limited experience Actually being on the turf unless there's more there than meets the eye on a farm or somewhere that this has gotten on it before but Brett breeding wise again. You know she. She certainly fits and you know she's one of many in here. A lot of first timers I also had silky warrior for mark. Cast you Mark i might make your has a kitten's joy Again who's breeding his. Okay works in the morning just so subtle but it's on there you know and this is a turf reading and they reach out. I read there. So you know she wanted wouldn't Wouldn't make you scratch your head either sir. Well there's plenty head scratchers on this card highlights. Yeah give us a couple of thoughts Poke around well. I mean i highlight is obviously you know. Hey zeus team. Being in the in the main event that you don't see many horses going using the claiming crown is a prep for a three million dollars. But that's what he's doing here. Prepping for the pegasus. I mean my only thoughts were from a better standpoint. A he's going to be over. Bet you know coming off that big race in the in the breeders cup be. He hasn't done much since then. I mean not that he'd probably needs it but went clip on. I always come back at the easy work. he's gonna stretch back to a mile and an eight which may or may not be asbestos detainees run okay at mile today but You know we still. He still wants to win. One there to prove it and When you look at his form good as he's been running the other one array since may eighth and that was one of the two twenty five so you know. There are reasons to be skeptical and look elsewhere because of the price. He's obviously going to be somewhere in the even money to send any i i would guess so i. I looked elsewhere to wear out there. If you're not way to go on claiming crown day to the mike maker right so Treasure troves horse. Say obviously claim with this in mind for forty thousand last time in indiana. He's got some races on his from a number standpoint. That are good enough. His works have been. We've been okay. And i think if tyler gets aggressive you know he might be clear off on the lead here too so i just took a shot. I just just didn't want to take a short trace on a horse. Who we know is prepping for something else. Who's kinda been at the farm a little bit since his last night so that just might go out there and his team wins four five minutes. So be it my. Here's a race The the eighth The rapid transit. That seems really competitive. What'd you do in here I'm surprised you skipped over the race before that 'cause turf race i thought is by far the most competitive rates for the day the five mike makers and they're all of which could win etc etc. I went to the yodel. Ea who in this race been fresh shop. I think he is trying to sappy. Joseph kind of been. Probably i in this race all along One two of his last three. Just lots of reasons. I think to think thoughts. It's really well and likes to track the distance. Maybe a bit of a question. Mark for them but Always run well at a mile. So there's no reasonably won't wear them well at seventy s. I agree though. I thought it was very wide open You could give me lots of other options. In other words. I looked at his alma g. Six who i'm guessing also claim that this race in by last out and fresh and up for this race by trying to tie pletcher scott's a big racist back earlier in the year. That would make him obviously competitive year And his works. I'll give a little bit away from o'clock a report. His last works have been with great at stake. Sources up pompey doubts that very tight spot and he's been competitive and it gets. I read so lotteries polite there anyway. All right skip back In between we'll give everybody a pick three look the seventh eighth And talk about that turf race. My god i mean you could use five in here and you can use all five makers still maybe not hit it. But like i said there are five makers in this race where trip is going to be. Everything I did go for the you know a couple of the makers on top. I started with temple. Look i'm hoping tyler kathleen is a big day. Because if he does. I will come pick it up on a lotta horses This is coming off a big effort at keeneland. Go a mile and eight by the horse. Go go who's a three year old in good form that's now won two in a row Obviously the buyer not misfit near the distance is is excellent for him. Loves this course you know and it looks like there might be paid for him so a lotta you get tyler so tyler. It's just been riding terrific kentucky coming back home now so Man you know again. He's my top choice. But there's so little margin for error in this race that and going to have to work out. well argues. Rumor also claimed the sauce for forty kentucky downs. I'm guessing what this race in mind. They got a lot of their money right back when he wanted allowance race at a pretty strong allowance. Race last time out gets iraq. He comes off a nice work. Last time meant that he worked in company. I'm trying to think You'll have to go to the clock a report for that. He worked in company and work. Well with another horse that's on his car makers and makers has got about one hundred on this car. I'm trying to remember who off the top. I had a cat but does last work was good so You know why not always. Rumor has east five or eight at a mile and a sixteenth as well so but you could make a case for all the other. Makers he's got three and here. It's just a terrific race imagine Yeah you mentioned sappy joseph there's the one that's been away Us yeah second in this race last year behind No i'm sorry won this race last year beat I'm sorry no he was third. Excuse me i get so confused because all these voices are coming out of the you know. A lot of them are back from last several of makes one appreciate the second tusk was third. Came back off of that race to win the tropical therapy great through tropical turf and then hit the sidelines. After that. He's training wells screening. Fourthly you know maybe he's going to need a race to get back to be competitive with this caliber horses but You know why not talk to. You can certainly win at his best. He will be giving away though because great three wedding that carry highway tomorrow. Twenty six it This is always. It's always entertaining and and we always seem to find a you. Know a seventy dollar whores. It seems in in the course of a of a claiming ground afternoon. You know what happens when you get all these sources coming in from all over the country And you get full feels like this especially in the grass rates is that just so many variables that You're prone to having an odd result or two or or sometimes it's not even so odd sources to get overlooked because there's so many yeah viable options these races even last race on the car. It's an eight thousand dollars starter. Raise full feel. I mean you can go and million ways in there too. I mean i'm sure frost frippery. Who's nowhere. Because he's going to be trained brad cox's first daughter of the meat and brad is here with Thirty six stalls. So we're gonna see a lot of brad cox a lot of resources. We might not see much grab but we will see a lot of sources you look at this source. He's been to five four to five four to five one two five one to you know. Obviously you know in in great spots you know in all of his last seven races. It'd be that short a price and in great form but last get beat a two five so we you know we might be a bit of a question. Mark coming back and seventy days But again you know if you don't wanna you don't want him in a short christ you've got to search and log because there are a lot of waste here if you don't think thrust of frippery he's gonna win. Mike welsh everybody d. r. f welsh getting the gulfstream season. Going and next thing you did not have shocked tyner well. We broke the story. I when i had. I had Mike waco and lake cow came out with it and and you know they heard it here. First okay. I didn't know that i mean actually caught me unawares. I don't wanna told me that they were going on. I sure a lot betters unaware. Yeah i mean. I would have had it in my opening day. preview by known and obviously caught. You know a lot of the batteries. I sacrificed a little handle. But i think it's a great decision. I talked to mike myself. Story sunday forum and You know it puts them in step with most other places. And i think it's great that that is you know could no. Now you know the the you gotta get your pets in and just the race is going to go up with the going to go up instead of at some own unknown predictable time from race to race. How many minutes drag. It was going to be so great on their part thumbs up for making this decision. This loss of louis decision absolutely. Mike welsh everybody d. r. f welsh. Mike we'll talk ahead of the state's next week okay. There's he'll be there. All winter and steve anderson is always there when it comes to The southern california's scene and of course his name came up. When we talked to bob marino. Yesterday they're gonna open low sow later this afternoon. Steve anderson good morning got what they saw note from asia. She lost him. Okay get steve back and we'll close out the morning just about five minutes left and i think slow might be there. Hey there he is steve anderson. Good morning the rest of the united states. Well you know. We're all out there rooting for you guys and And i talked to bob marino yesterday ahead of todays opener at low sal and i guess you're a little better off i suppose in orange county then that up in in los angeles fractionally however under new guidelines in the ever revolving decision making by the california state government Los angeles and orange county's going forward will be linked in the same group for any policy decisions that are being made that would also affect san diego not racing so In the one good thing that appears to be the case if there is any good thing is that under the guidelines that were set forth yesterday. live professional. Sports can continue without audiences the if the state goes to a strict stay at home policy for certain regions and and The good thing is there's no horse tracks in santa clara county. Which is as you probably know has disrupted the san francisco. Forty niners is home game scheduled and So there's no tracks in santa clara county so there's that issues avoided for example but as for And orange county There seems to be fingers crossed. Approach that racing will not be disrupted if stay at home. Orders are are strengthened. Servewell as it came up with him. Earlier and with bob marino yesterday and then You know in the afternoon. The news broke out of Golden gate that. They're not going to resume racing until the twenty six th of december It's a real benefit. let's be honest too. Low sow filling races Feels like the meat is going to be very good for these couple of weeks. There is some Like you mentioned some strong evidence that that's the case. I just was going through some injuries for sunday. For example and you see horses that were trained by Folks that are up up. North may not have necessarily participated in southern. Cal raises noticeably quinn. How he's got a couple of horses that are entered and There is going to be a little bit more of an effect from that. Andy mathis brought a few horses down. And there's many more instances similar to that so in that regard That's a boost for for low style at the expense of the golden gate picture. You know. they're not racing. Of course that's going to be now seven weeks without grass racing and the north so there's gonna be a lot of demand for that but last year. They took off grass in the north and didn't run on the graphs from the middle of november to the middle of may. So what the wait and see how they manage that decision making a different climate up there. Well steve we just have about three minutes. And i just wanted to touch base and and certainly going to talk to you next week. ahead of the few turnkey and and Bob marino said he really likes the way. The champion of champions is coming up And then of course. We got the grade. One starlet tomorrow. We've got the bioko on sunday They'll look to the future thirty next week but give us a quick thought about The weekend some of the highlights Starting with the great one. You're going to be fascinating to see what students can do going to turns them whether or not princes nor can rebound in. What i thought was a very disappointing was racing in the breeder's cup. Juvenile fillies akilah. So that's a that's a match that looks like it's going to be a very good a good race looking at the a it's interesting there's A nice still called stellar sound xbox baffert now trae michael mccarthy who was stakes placed against some nice sources This time last year and in the winter and she came back and won well at santa anita and on october second for mccarthy and so she's going into the race with strong credentials to her stakes debut against older fillies and mirrors so the little stellar sound Appearance in the by gives that small race stature. And it's a it's a decent field with message and Proud emma also in the running and You know it's a good little free it's nice to see. These older horses have more opportunities. It's needed nationwide and particular out here in california. Any anybody catch your eye among the you got that cow bread maiden special before the starlet. Then you've got an open company made special afterward. Anybody we need to know about really. I haven't looked at it too closely. It'd be honest with you. I've been dealing unfortunately with front office issues for most of the morning which is a setback from my para mutual activity. Ooh all right well the time but by the time they start loading the gates. I've sure you'll you'll you'll have caught up That that's pretty funny Steve well you know you had you had a whole bunch of headlines That you handled but you know what Things like rosario We can. there's plenty of time for that and so forth We'll we'll catch backup And i suppose you would echo Bob marino about the you know the big highlights for the quarter horse Features coming up. It's going to be fantastic weekend next next saturday and sunday over there with The the champions deep is it supposed to be the breeders cup. Classic of quarter horse racing dates back to the early seventies and it strength this year is equal to or greater than some reason seasons that have been very very good for charity. Looks like a very interesting race this year so the strength there is good. What's remarkable about the last month or so here in california. No rain the the wet season if it's gonna arrive late so we've seen a lot of opportunities for people to keep horses fit and happy training and moving forward and you know that's result fields. I've not only during this current loselle meet. That starts this afternoon. But also over the last month at del mar they had really good weather meet and they lost two days of racing in two thousand nineteen but this year they were much better off and And it showed in the in the day to day results in the day to day Fields and things like that so there's no rain in the forecast right now in the next week. So if it's coming. It's going to be a little late. This year on the typical season and i heard from bob. I think i heard bob say that. Zoom in for spuds is still running seven now. If that be ran he won the twenty sixteen champion champions as three year old to clean the three year old gelding title. They do it. A little differently corridors champions. So he's back out there again with good credential. Watch out for powerful favored. I'd like to talk to you about that next week. To watch powerful favorite. Who has since the last of august. He's going great guns for chris. Odell and tell cartel for Matt fails the three-year-old at won. The super. derby is back into the form that he showed earlier this year and having undergone knee surgery in april. And he's going good so those are just three of the ten runners and cool looking forward to it. It's steve anderson. Everybody and d r f anderson on your twitter and He'll be busy catching up on the racing As the winter season at los out kicks off a few hours. Steve talk next week. Thanks so much. thank you. Very much steve anderson. Who boy you wanna talk about a counter. Counterbalance to greg greg anderson trumping the back stretches hope Hope i have a great weekend. Thanks steve and mike welsh nick and scully hammer. Greg and tony l. Abbado talk to you monday.

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Part 2:Tony Black ,Steve Haskin,Bob Moreno, Rich Eng

"Sirius xm forts with steve. Big horse racing handicapping interviews. This guy steve. We're back our zoo at the races. And tony black back with us. We missed the course. Thanksgiving thursday no visit with tony and i think i think tony. I think you had didn't you have you had to think to you. Had a thing with the that. I think I think it's been actually talked to you in three weeks. It's been that long. Maybe two weeks maybe. Two weeks was only a couple of weeks but And i listen and you know what i was telling case when he caught. This is one morning. I i wasn't listening. 'cause i'm trying to get things situated around here so i didn't know exactly what the topics have been this morning but we always figure something out. I miss you but you know what even when you don't have any you have such a informative show such a good show. That i listen and i don't feel like i'm being ever left out because when you don't have me it's because there's something or there's someone or a guest that speaking or they're doing that really has something to say so don't ever feel bad when you leave me out steve beck. You know everybody right if you miss a a a week. Everybody wears tony's tony okay. They your your top of the list right. I haven't been going out to the track for the last couple of weeks well be. This'll be the second week. I was getting on horses. And i really enjoyed it. You know that There's still racing over parks. And i enjoy getting on horses but we had a you know a little flare up of infection rate between jocks room. I was eight or nine. Ten jocks Come up positive There was a couple of guys in the office because They gave it to the clerk of scales. And i guess he took it back to the office couple of guys in the office and then the barn roof vegas bar was four or five people one of the girls come up positive and three or four others and i said you know what is better. I stay home and don't get on. Where is because both kids are out of school now. They stopped the Live school in. It's all remote. And i said i i might as well. Just stay home with the kids while they're doing their remote learning and try to not bring anything back to this house because my mom down here every day and she's ninety five and got the two kids and we i. I didn't want to take a shot going to the track and bringing something back home that get somebody else. I'm not worried about me. Because i'm kind of being visible greek. I always said i'm it's never gonna get me. You know this that stupid arrogance that you carry around with you when you're when you're an old job that's even semi retired gets don't carry the same arrogance around with yet but I didn't wanna bring anything home to the kids are tamang and and prudent and a everywhere. You're you're seeing headlines that we're we're really i mean as bad as things are everywhere right now. it it. It feels hopeful that yeah. We're you know we're heading in the right direction when it comes to. Yeah when it comes to treat and stabbing this off like you said. There's a light at the end of the tunnel with the vaccine in bali ryan the teeth in the priority groups. Get the vaccine. And then there'll be distributing it and they'll put an end to it. I can remember when a kid growing up and You know there was nothing like this. But i mean polio. That was something that they were developing a vaccine. Were they develop a vaccine. And you know you. You saw people were an iron long. I can remember my second grade teacher. At one leg that was deteriorating. The muscles had been affected by the the polio and but we've never been through anything quite like this and anything that quite like this has been prior to us you and me You know and when they talk about epidemics in the past it was we. We probably weren't born yet. And one thing i heard the other day you were saying that in march or so that You're one of the lucky ones the got it and got over it. Is that route right both. we both. Yeah both have. And i guess to some degree of protection. Now they don't know exactly to what degree because they say there could be a second infection but I guess if you got over it then you gender getting infected or especially with the way people are being careful but there's a group of people they're just not being careful you know they don't want to do what suggested and this is one thing we gotta do is follow directions. I know it's hard when you feel it. Being ordered to wear masks. I carry in my pocket in the car and i get out of the car and go into walgreens and i look and i see a mask with somebody and have to run back to the car. 'cause i forget the skin and i've done that at home depot at walgreens and walmart you name any place i go in and it seems like i just i can grab my phone and i even put the mask underneath my phone. I grabbed the phone booth my pocket get into the store and turn around and run back out through the car. But it's just what we have to get into that mindset and habit to do that yeah everybody i mean everybody's in that there isn't anybody that hasn't forgotten and i've done it A couple of types. I haven't Haven't gone in anywhere. But i by the time i get to the door. I'm like i forgot to go back and look at the law then. I don't feel too bad. I was thinking man black. You really had a lot of the cousins. You get things things straight but even us so. I don't feel too bad. I even took the dog to the vet yesterday. and of course Walked in there and three people sitting with mass and the one lady even had a masculine her owner dog aware that and she said oh he likes it and watch me and he wears. I got point. I'm having trouble when they take batty for walks getting her. And there's no way i keep a mask on her. I have to keep it on her. She pulls it on. But you know on the one thing about it as long as i wear to feel like i'm contributing to everyone safety you know and a little but most beat everyone safety of control. Well you bring you bring up. You know your mother and You know she's ninety five ninety five years old at this so my father's ninety one once and we at thanksgiving and you know did the cooking. My greek stuffing. She doesn't even put it in turkey. It's just it's a combination of sausage and beef and all these different meats. And i don't know what she puts in it but they chestnuts when you when you eat stopping and she puts the chestnuts and some of them some of them. She puts an have some of them. She you know you just throw them in there and you can't believe the taste of the stuffing and the chestnuts. You mean the testing delicious and this stuff and and she did all the cooking thanksgiving mom dead ninety five and did all the cooking and then i told somebody that nixon should be ashamed of yourself letting her go. She loves it. Greek lady you don't see loves. It does what she wants. She's an old greek. She's going to do what she wants. And you're not gonna dollar not to and you're not gonna do it. You going to do what she wants to do. And she so so high functioning unbelievable it is amazing and That's funny that the chestnut conversation. Where did this that. I that i discussed this with that. I discussed this with with neil on the air or or was this off air. I had a discussion with somebody and was recalling as a kid in new york city. And i'm sure in philly this is maybe this might have been with jani. The chestnuts there used to be vendors. There used to be people on the street funded that they had the pushcarts and they and they would sell chestnuts a little baggage chestnuts and roasting on an open. Fire that my bags just So common would split. Put them in the oven and that was the snack at night. They was like he had discussed. It was not a night when sometimes he would try different types of a greek cheese or swiss type. I forget what the cheese was but he'd actually fry it. And that was. I thinking back of that. You know chestnuts fried cheese. And i'm thinking you know what it wasn't because of nutrition and health and health and all that it was that was part of the heritage. Greeks and chestnuts lived stuff of that nature. It was good healthy stuff. They didn't take it because it was good healthy something. I don't think eating well. The cheese is one of my favorite things sakamaki Which is out of this world. We will we make prestige. Would you like a greek lasagna. You know it's the meat sauce and the In the end the keys. And i'm trying to think it starts with a c. I can't think. I never can think of the name of jesus in the greek guy at the store. Just that's what it is a cub a cut cut. I forget the name. Jesus makes the by deeds or it's not just the meat in sauce and and then you put a cream sauce on top and you put down on the strategies and the cream sauce and you can do it with just read solid where you can do it with red sox in the in the lead so and then cream sauce on the top of the bus and the other day my mother and i made one and i wrote everything down because i said you know what i'm making this one myself but i supervise me so i put after. She corrected me in a few small areas. I said let me ride artists. Making and i'm thinking you know you're not going to be here to help me. Well you know not not Hopefully not anytime. Soon you know speaking speaking of Somebody departing tony. And i was saving this for you In fact somebody just wrote on twitter about it. I wanted to bring up the word that came yesterday. That keith jones. After thirty years plus is going to retire. And i just saw that yesterday in. And i have keith number. Of course i'm going to go over and see whatever they're i'm sure they're gonna do something short but and I never forget the day that i told him. This horse wins. This was in two thousand twelve. The horse that my son on said that this source wins. This will be my my retirement. My last now is always called smart pori. i think it was two thousand twelve. I forget all the years when and when he announced that he says he didn't say it was my retirement. You just may. I'll never forget The way you may have witnessed anthony flags final ride and he repeated. You may just have witnessed it. Maybe this was. Anthony blacks final riding announcing his retirement. He really that. How'd you like that announcement i go. You left the door open and your brother you he says why would nine with you. I've been around for twenty five. Years does not leave the door open. I know you too well known but i I read that you know. He's going to retire. And i thought to myself he. He's done one hell of a job and there's a lot of memories there. Never forget the memories made when it came to announcing races and horses. that have won Not just that. I was on. But other riders ruin and he always he always always called the races with a lot of feeling a lot of the notion and and He he did one hell of a job. And i would listen to him. Come to the head of the stretch because you could hear it arcs on a clear day and know he he almost let you know who's behind you to worry and try and that was quite a many occasion. I might have been in front of the quarter. Paul and it was interesting to hear what horses where behind or what horses were making a run or what is on the outside or selling so on the inside so even contributed to my writing style at times. Well he you. He has something of a little bit of a different resume because he only ever called at garden state and then and then at parks. And that's it. He as opposed to some of a lot of Race callers you know. Have you know these long resumes and and have gone from various places but Because parks had a year round. You know essentially a year round schedule. He didn't need to have that kind of tenor it scenario he's gonna apparently move to texas he and his wife but His voice in a losing void. Losing him and john current. You wanna talk about two voices that have been you know synonymous and and just identified instantly with you know with two tracks that are thirty miles up not even thirty miles apart South maybe thirty. Saying fred kappa. Sallow densify identified certain announces with new york with new jersey. Pull it off the parks or different tracks. But you know like you said you. Hit right on it Years ago these announcers they might have a six seven eight tracks on a resume because you had thirty day meet sixty day ninety seven days at some drag. You know ninety days some of the meet for ninety days and that was that was a lot you know none of these tracks but then you had tracks. It went to almost year round racing. I can remember when i had. The bug had lost it yet and my boss these me out to a trainer gilbert prentice in maryland who were from new york to maryland. And so i went the marlins with gilbert so here no new york makes the announcement with ducks gonna open up earliest ever open. You know what the date was. After closed the opening date march first. March i now. They had closed. I guess sometime guess. It was like after thanksgiving like most of the tracks closed around here. Thanksgiving or whatever in that area and i went with the bug from buoy. My lease was up with guilt blankets and he was new york trainer. He went back to new york. And charlie coca was my contract holder and garden state opened in april. We went to new york march. I well when you talk about drax that ran you know. In those days there was very few drags. Liberty bell broke some ice when they race through a wintertime or in a winner me not through the wintertime but a winter be and then you had me. That would run. That was a good winter racetrack but new york in run. They shut down and march. I was a big opening earliest ever. And that was in nineteen. Seventy seventy one must have been seventy one. Because i still had the bug and then when when we left new york Sometime in april it was only because state opened in mid april so march. I was new york. A middle way was garden state and Then liberty opened sometime after garden state. And everybody else go to mammoth romantic city. And i think i went to liberty bell but it was different. You know he said nounce had these resumes seven eight eight strikes and so Just strictly because he there was no year round racing. now there is everybody's racing some time for For most of the year. But you know what you think about it and you see these tracks racing three days a week four days a week when i was a kid we six days a week and then they got sunday acing and they made thursday dark. Were monday dark but nobody raised just five days a week. They ray six days a week then. It was great when somebody says well. Five days a week. We'll make monday and thursday. Dr bull race sunday be. That was like being on vacation because when you work six days a week ryan. Can't you work seven days a week. galloping horses or horses so. It was a grueling schedule in those days. Now you're at parks. And i'm thinking when nobody will ever break records over parks because the only race three days a week how they're going to have some jock win few thousand races. You're race three days a week. It'll take him places long to do it as when they raised six days a week. And that you bring that up and and especially at this time a year. You realize i think about Think about poor wilmer garcia. Who got you know severely injured in that car accident driving From a from an afternoon track to a night track and trying to you know trying to hustle rides right. He was driving the penn national. I think listen. There was guys that were riding in maryland in the wintertime at buoy and they would drive the charlestown at night and that I'm trying to think a couple of guys that were either injured or killed. I can't think of their names right now. I mean i can remember being johnson kenny. I can't think of. I don't want say names. 'cause i bet he got killed driving charlestown night. What yeah he. He was coming home. And i worked all day went road on night and drove home. Fell asleep and free. You know hit somebody had on and things like that happened. But it was a grueling schedule. Then you know when you hear when we were in this area you could be riding a like keystone and in. I can remember one day. I wrote sixteen races. I rode Eight or nine at keystone day. I got married that morning. I got married that morning i married. The justice of the peace. Ten o'clock went and wrote eight or nine at keystone and then drove the meadowlands and road. seven i think i wrote sixteen day. I said what are way to start on honeymoon. There was no honeymoon. Got married that morning road. Eight or nine road seven or eight meadowlands that night then held ruling schedules at times. And so it trainers all the people that work with these sources you know when grooms and walkers and people that took care of these sources working on the you know there was very few jobs where they said. Oh you can have one or two days off a week now. He works six days a week and probably seven if he were rubbing horses. It wasn't easy. No no but at the same time it you know for a lot of people it in fact makes said this the other day It you know it's a lifestyle it's nobody you don't really question it or you don't really you don't really think twice i it. Just it's it's the life that You know that you're you're involved it and even the guys that worked in the office when you were taking entries years ago twenty four hour and grease scratch time the morning before the races. And you were taken entries hustling and you racing six days a week. So the guys in the opposite. Even my brother came up the other day because there's been a bunch of people's that he's still in for over the office because they've been some you know some people second out he say boy. I worked with these new guys in the office. And you know a lot of these guys and you know. They're saying how the load been put on them because taken entries for three days of racing during the week he says when we cook and present we raised six days a week. These says nobody even wants remember that. He says we raised six days a week. We had scratched time in the morning of the race is and we were taken entries for the next day. 'cause there was every day was just about an entry day and every day devout scratch day. He saying that. That was a grueling schedule. He says we really had to give a lot that he now the race in three or four days a week and they act like. Because somebody's sick you know. It's it's a tough schedule. It ain't nothing like what it used to be. I thought nick you're a dinosaur. I'm a dinosaur. Nobody with dinosaurs neck resentful of it. We're dinosaurs it's It's you know no other most most of the people that are you know that are involved and and at a certain age. It's the only thing you know. I i mentioned it in passing that Stanley off has has now retired for the second time. And this time it seems like it's for good but Stanley was a good example. He kind of a step aside and he was doing some bloodstock and work and then he got involved with sagamore and next thing he knew the the opportunity to maybe step back onto the and and he had a really nice two year actually more than that. Return a little more than two year. Return one one forty six was the number one one another forty six races adding to his total over twenty two hundred a. It's the only thing that you know. A lot of people once they if they got into it at a at a young age. It's really all they know. That's it the lifestyle is all you know And you came in to it like in the late sixties when i was galloping horses and robin horses you saw Part of the business. That was unlike any part that you witnessed today. You know it was. I mean i remember being in Elementary school and people in this area new. My uncle was a jockey and the teachers. I'd walk in how jonquil do yesterday. Did he win any or only one. The second and everybody knew racing. Yeah you know the teacher your third grade teacher view. I saw the second us today. And i'm thinking jesus you know. That's my uncle sam but it was it. The the following of the sport was quite different. Because you know yeah the newspapers. Every night they would show the feature race from garden state. If you lived in this area you know. And tami. Roberts would be on the radio every night announcing county roberts. Do you know that name more. He would be yeah. He would be announcing a new feature race some garden state or the feature race from wherever and it would be on Probably i dunno. Wip kyw. i forget what he now. What radio station but it was on. Am radio on tv at night. And we've seen the changes in the you know the Ability to view the sport In in the way we did in the fifties sixties even in the seventies and you know the business has changed in many ways but the one thing about it is. It's an exciting athletic events for horse jockey and spectator and has not been like when it comes to viewing this event and The the people that love wagering on horses. It's a. it's a kind of a an event that you go to the race track and you can make you can make a hundred dollars last all day long using casino through and pumped one hundred dollars to dissolve machine and twenty minutes. You'll if you didn't hit you're you're out one hundred dollars but the entertainment aspect of this is something that is still there now. Everybody is knowledgeable of that entertaining aspect but once you get people to come to the draft and see what it is a lot of them really enjoy where you can sit and you can eat lunch or dinner. Whatever track here at and you can enjoy Watching the excitement of six eight ten twelve thoroughbred roaring down the track coming down the stretch at the quarter pole and you can be within Seventy feet of them on the other side of the race racetrack fence here. Impounding down the stretch. it's it. It's an exciting sport. You can see jockeys walking back and talk to him yell at them. You can make your money last and you can entertain yourself all at the same time. If you're a spectator that really enjoys a Physical Highly physical athletic event as racing is for animal and human. Tony black tony I appreciate it as always and how much With the weather setting in you you're going to lay off until spring gonna lay off in. It's not so much the weather's been kinda mount steve. I actually like it. It's not bad weather out there galvin. It's just that the infection rate. Now like i said it's mainly the pandemic that has caused me you know that's really the reason i never minded too cold weather. In fact he used to eat me up at time. The cold weather you know i got used. I actually did some of my best riding where it was in the thirties. I was like a like a race was cold weather. I guess that's why. I got along so good on these race horses. 'cause i was on the same wavelength. Maybe maybe that's not the most intelligent wavelength but it was one that made us be very compatible worse than jockey but i i really enjoyed these sources and i kind of missed the physical activity of not getting out there. I like but i am working out every day. I missed a day working out. I can't remember amazing that boy that and they fear i love it. Tony i have a great week. I'm guy we caught up and we're going to get there. We'll get keep jones on our play before he before he wraps up. We've got two wins. I had two wins with the with keith. At the mike and a red board king was redbird. Kate was both of them. Actually read boy though. I know for one of them was you were and for I think for the win. And then jose flores a time. Yeah he certainly is. Somebody brought him up with. Somebody brought up on either facebook or twitter the other day yesterday. joe in Mcdade flora's and the kids and everything and it breaks my heart skill. I i it really does. And i think of when my last conversation with him and it was a on like whatever the day that he got killed a couple of days prior to that i saw in front of the kitchen and he's He says i'm coming up on five thousand. Whatever the knocking. He's fifty one five thousand. I forget he. As soon as i get there probably going to be done. Donate probably be done. I says yeah. You'll be done like me. But he was aiming to. I think this five. I guess it was and then never got their whatever. The number was but you gotta understand that You know the business at times is hard to deal with and very cruel disheartening at times. But it's a great business. That isn't the business it's just happened to be life. It's life just businesses just prior life. It doesn't separate you from. Life is just a part of life and a ups and downs and whatever life brings you can witness and be part of this business. Hopefully more good than bad. That's it you always just no matter what no matter what aspect you're involved in you want to. We want to just You wanna be one one photo. I right at the end just just slightly ahead on the ledger. Guess right. I just from my back door open and my mother just stuck her head out yelled i'm here what are you doing. I got woods coming. I gotta go see alright so great. Perfect half hour. Keep up the good work. I gotta go and talk to my boss. Tony black everybody with ninety five year old mother. that's great. we'll stay right here. The asking is going to join us and asking nascar banging out the material Secretary at dot com and he was interested in the The group that went through for the first future wager and was watching the kentucky jockey club. Insurers already considered the the remington runners. For first saturday. The i tested a mile and an eighth with stakes level and steve asking good morning. Good morning steve. And how will you excellent. I was thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was very nice. Young went to the market. Got a lot of good food made a big dinner. That's the idea didn't even have to go to boston for it. Take the question everybody wants to know did. Did you get a tofurkey. Of course well. I've got a package of tofurkey slices. Roll them up. Put some gravy on it. You know so it's like You know turkey. It's fine what you put gravy on it you cut it up and you get used to the texture of it but it's got a good taste and It's good the fan. I don't i don't sleep after dinner but everything was got. My spray stuffing nice. It all it all came together. Candied yams i mean. What more could you ask for for thanksgiving. And it really is a great I'm thinking about A one year spencer had Was dating a girl for awhile and and she was a vegetarian. And it's it's you know traditionally. It's a excellent rested excellent holiday for vegetarians. And like you and also much so much like you know. When mandy and west lived in albany we went over there for thanksgiving and we went over to when they live in nebraska. We went there for thanksgiving which makes a big turkey and Turkey bacon. By the way. I i use baking as a schmear i i. I do a bacon guess herbs ever but i mean every thanksgiving thanksgiving. Look don't worry about me. Just give me my stuffing in my wes- with likes his green. You know streaming salad green beans salad. Whatever and just give me Give me all the sides mashed potatoes gravy cranberry. This not not real cranberry sauce. That moldy stuff and you know with the not to the cranberries. Moldy the mark the cranberries in the mold. And it's like floating around in there. And i don't like cranberries. They'll sour can't stand the taste of him but ocean spray. Cranberry sauce sorta greatest different. That's a different entity you know for those waiting for an update i did. I did send taxed For those that heard the conversation with aaron rodgers. The pre thanksgiving conversation leading into you know. They're they're closing action. And we'll talk about the jockey club in a minute. But i try to convince darren of you know the the potential to have a cranberry mold item and he he scoffed at it but i- i twisted his arm and i got confirmation. I think yesterday yesterday or tuesday. They did make. I sent him the instructions they did make the cranberry molt and so You know they had the they had the container minds a tupperware. My mother's and i asked him how he liked it and he he said against all odds he liked it and he said it will become the. My mother's cramped make you feel good. No i believe them. I can t believe me. If darren didn't like it. He would say so he would say it was a washout food items that i can never understand that people. Absolutely love cramped. Cranberry juice cranberries. In a mold cranberries plane. It's so sad and the other thing is rubab. I mean everybody absolutely loved strawberry rhubarb lemon meringue in my pumpkin pie and apple price. Rubab i mean i mean. This is so bitter. Tina likes rhubarb. That's funny and you know. She's mildly allergic to strawberry. And so she generally avoid strawberries. Although when a strawberry rhubarb option Rolls around she. She will go for it. She likes that she likes. A few oddballs loves radishes. People like like broccoli. Rob you know. I mean bitter and it doesn't do but people's talion love it. I mean they. I mean i. I don't like bitter tower type foods. Now that's a that's one that's it was it was silly it was. It was ridiculous because well we had. There was four of us and With spencer and his roommate On yet moves from france. And and she's she's been living with the with spencer. And and the dan another another kid from cambridge and in brooklyn so she had. She comes home a lot of times for holidays to our house Really sweet and it was just the four of us with me. Tina and yet. I couldn't help myself. Steve and i ended up making the normal amount as if there were. You know sixteen people so it was ridiculous i me. What are you gonna cut out exactly. I mean tina said afterward. I took a picture of the table. And like i always do and i said to tina she goes you know. Why did you do this. I said what am i gonna. What what was. I going to eliminate wishing you first of all you like cooking doesn't matter of can you like cooking. If you ever gonna cook thanksgiving you know. I'm sure you enjoy making a fees so so if we got four people big deal so you got got leftovers the next night and you and you joy why. Why scam well not. Was there leftovers for for you know friday saturday sunday but i took the carcass and made i made a vat of of turkey soup and the soup gap actually came out fabulous and we really enjoyed the soup and in fact i think i brought up the that i mentioned who was on with me but I only i only got one bag of egg noodles. Pennsylvania dutch style egg noodles and we went through that on friday night and saturday. So on sunday steve. I made a batch of matsu balls that went into the the last remnants of the soup and it was a home run joma people are that pilgrims actually multiples on the first thanksgiving with the turkey. And that it's a perfect company. Medicos beautifully you do know that there were there. Were i believe three. If i'm not mistaken there were three jewish crew members involved in the mayflower. Those are the ones who made the multiple and they may have had the recipe but I i if i'm not mistaken i can't remember if it's if it's Columbus or and. I think it's the mayflower. I think i think there were there. Were either three. They were either either carpenters or the their their word. Kids aboard that. I that i that i have read somewhere over the years with ancestor of of my mother because they used if they did the recipe was handed out through the generations than they also use the mozzarella cannonballs for the moves. Mum my mother's muscles literally will cannonballs. She this this is a different discussion whether you like them. Heavy in and chewy. Or you like them. Lighten if it's a very different discussion. I don't know i. I don't know if your listeners were prepared for this right off the bat. But they always are. They always having hanging there folks who get to horse racing talk about thanksgiving. I get it exactly exit. We're winding down. I've only got one more day of of recapping thanksgiving with people but no it was terrific and It's it is my favorite I'll i'll be. I'll be happier when we can get a. You know a house full of guests next year that that would be better. I'll tell you what was weird though is watching the macy's parade with nobody. I know crazy crazy. You know that was That was that was crazy. That's the other thing too. Rather you know you watch the parade and the funny thing is is that when mandy was growing up. You know we've looked the parade and gregory going on and mandy being haroon playing. You know it'd be managing. It's mickey mouse mickey mouse. The floats coming. Mickey's it's it's pluto couldn't care. She has no interest in the thanksgiving parade. I i have one memory of the thanksgiving parade. That i i went to live. I went with my cousin and her husband. And i remember very vividly and the only thing i remember about that parade other than seeing santa claus is that i watched the parade on his shoulders and the only thing i noticed from the parade sitting on his shoulders was feeling his adam's apple which is like a rock and i said what is that in his throat. And that's my memory of my my thanksgiving parade. Jailing my cousins husbands adam's apple because have your hands around his neck was that you had your. You had your hands. You were sitting on his shoulders to hold onto something sitting on your neck. I mean that's what you only thing you can hold onto and i'm saying. Oh god what is this thing like a inside of his throat and thanksgiving day. Parade was holding onto his rock-hard adam's apple alley degenerated. Now i never went my brother. My brother was a press agent and for several. There were several years where he was involved With the with the parade and he told me you know all kinds of all kinds of funny stories about how the behind the scenes like the scene in in miracle on thirty fourth street you know with With the drunk santa that that that that wasn't that not an unusual occurrence essentially. I mean there's some crazy some crazy things with the hikes squeaky voice there you know Cody pay you. Got all the parade. The view of the parade. John payne's window. Yes exactly exactly service. Something though was Kramer dropping the empire state building two point dropping out of the window onto the float float. While the speaking deflating. Somebody put up me. And in fact i sent it to my brother. The the year that the The year that the barney float The barney balloon exploded and it was crazy where the lifting lifting handlers up off the ground and it was the craziest thing every year. I've got that thanksgiving thing. I created with that picture of boll ankle. Just makes me laugh every year. I put it up. Happy thanksgiving with winkle so funny one of the longest running balloons well speaking of long-running steve The stars of tomorrow starts crow. There you go Give us give us your take. I i had the i. I think i had robert de niro and ten minutes after he got off the air The got a five thousand dollar fine for those. I don t think that you're inter. They interviewed him The interview after the race. And you know he came across very straightforward guy. And i'm not saying he's not straightforward. But you know intelligent guy and he to talk intelligently and he looks like a looks like a good trainer. I think the only one that does a few view trainers that ran into breeders cup to doesn't think he's a very good trainer running a rabbit choice in killing off warriors reward and classier and know all the all the other speed in the race. But i'll tell you one thing you know if you watch if you watch the breeders cup and you watch the you know the the move that horse made first time blinkers and you can see him you looking. You always look back to see if anybody's doing anything. And you see this one horse. Streaking by horses. And i said well is that and he went wide and the race and he was he just kept going and you know he basically did the same thing in the kentucky jockey club and what i like about him is that i know he comes from fall out of it and supposedly horses. Don't win the derby that way anymore. Which is all about speed but this was. He makes his move early. He's flying around that turn and he just has the ability to sustain it. He just keeps going a lot of times. You see a big run. And then they sort of flatten out a little bit. He just keeps run going. I thought he ran I thought he ran a tremendous race. You lost a ton of ground again and you gotta take him Gonna take them seriously. I mean just leaving it looks. He looks like a really good horse. Read to go mountain quarter. You know. I think you know your door. Looks like it. Looks like he's He's certainly a good trainer. Say you know he's had some decent horses so you know all in all i mean it was The i thought land big smile isa baca battling on lead. The hallway opened up. And i thought he thought he ran He thought he ran a tremendous race. You know hunger in the interest got beat in the final strides. He's also had to run run longer. So we've got to watch Watch out for him. So those basically spirit a couple of disappoints in there sitting on go. Who had you know stakes winner earlier. He really he really didn't do too much he. He wants one turn jay. We talked to jay the other day. And if you're jay Recap you know the j. even said this coming out of Breeders cup was sitting on. Go that that's a. That's a turn back horse Be chilly utility still. He didn't run like a horse. Who wants to go on. King fury who is you know. He had run well earlier but you know he's another voice that was battling on the lead. The hallway hadn't had and you know he finished fifth but he wasn't embarrassed like four lengths. Oh so yeah. He's in other words to watch out for you know. Nobody just blows you away here. And what's your jackie. Cup courses generally don't do well on its purpose anyway even though even though it's churchill downs i like. I like keeping him right. That's the key. Looks like a really nice source. And i think it's great story being written by david cone. Know i'd love to see him. Just stay on torch and he deserves to get a horse under derby trail and get making it all the way to the derby one of the things. That's unusual about this horse. Has been the inclination. And i and i brought this up with the doro in terms of how he has seemingly run to competition and you've reminder that he was a maiden coming into this and yet you know that off the turf debut and they basically entered him knowing the race was to come off and then that good effort in the breeders futurity behind essential quality and then in the breeders cup is so he had run a solid fire then he runs the ninety two buyer in the in the juvenile and then essentially comes back to the pack and runs. This number ended up. Revised i should mention originally was a seventy nine. I believe and now ended up picking up a point to eighty so he got an eighty and the philly race. Got an eighty five But it he. And i brought it up with the doro. And he said he's the same way in the mornings that if he pairs him with a with a an inferior horse a horse it superior to him that he runs with that horse. He is not you know he's not a horse that's going to just go out and blaze away. So he's he's interesting and Yeah the laya ban the laya band. Part of this is fun. Equation and steve. What about Brought this up with sid yesterday. How 'bout victory galloping. The broodmare sire of both stake win saturday victory gallop. I mean all of a sudden these pop it out ever seen pedigrees. Now he's now. He's now he's pop it up in In pedigrees and you look at them and you say well listen. If he's the broodmare sire. I mean that certainly major plus the what's going a mile and a quarter one thing about the one thing about ban you know just like he's one of those voices that just came out of nowhere and who knows. I mean. He may turn into the next into mischief or someone that maybe not quite that extreme. But he's showing up a lot now in top class horses so yeah you gotta look at the source and say know. This was definitely looks like he's going to want to. He's gonna wanna go on for sure. What did you What was your take on. You had the mile in the winter of palo. Lobo that lebron lebron and then the other race among the boys that Got plenty of attention. Seven eighths and there's a lot yet to have to happen but the judd mont home bred out of the empire maker Mandolin that's that's my. That's my star day there. You got divorce. I probably wrote more about him than it in any of the horses. I mean that's what. I was really impressed. Me and again you look at him and you see by mischief. He said okay. Here we go again. You know we are we. Are we going to have to wait to see if another intimacy it's going to be able to go a mile and a quarter but i tell you looking at the source before the race and even watching him coming back and watching him run. What a gorgeous animal says. I mean he's just striking roofing and he's he reminds me a lot of authentic as a big rangy type horse with a big long strike him. light on his feet. I'm saying you know. I don't know everybody's talking about these intimate states. That don't wanna go monitor. Quarter but physically. They look like they do. And i just i just like everything i've seen about this or i mean i love this race He he beat a really good horsing twilight blue Who ran a terrific race. Looks like he's a really nice horse in the making. But i just like the way he was able to show early speed. I mean it was a good honest. Pay twenty two and three forty six flat. I mean you know ten in three and you know he came home. He came home and twelve and twelve and one in that race so he was able to close fast in there. But we start looking at the pedigree young. He's out of an empire mayor and you know me when it comes to When it comes to his majesty majesty's my baby my horse to me. When i see him in the pedigree all i see is class classic type pedigree and stamina you. Know he's a full brother to ground stock by rebe and he actually looks very similar to to this source to mandolin. Also big rangy horse has a white legs and Very similar and what. I liked about this. Horse's pedigree is that there were three daughters of his majesty's in his pedigree so he's inbred three times to his majesty. Tall often has majesty's daughters. So i'm seeing an awful lot of stamina in the source even with the intimacy of he's got very very strong family. Which is what. You're looking for with intimation if you're looking for a strong female family to go with it but Intimacy you could be one of these type courses like distorted humor. Where in the beginning. You start thinking Distorted humor was miler. Maybe amount and sixteenth chilean farther than that in funny side wins the derby and now all of a sudden oh by disturbed humans. So you know he wants to go mile and a quarter you know the whole the whole scene changes you know with one race the whole conception of what a who is and how far wanna go so i you know i i. I think we're going to start seeing a bunch of bunch more intimate strips. Going long i think tank might have started the ball rolling on that because early in his career and i looked at him. I said he's an intimate strip. I know he looks apart physically. But you know he's one dimensional. He needs to lead he can't in. Let's look like he can come from off the pace with his. You know with that pedigree. And he's had mr greeley mayor. I should too much speed. Well look what you got out of it. You gotta derby winner in a classic winner so pedigrees. It's all so crazy now. You really can't tell who's gonna do. What so you do the best you. Can you look at the pedigree. But i was very was very impressive. I thought you know in the other. The other words you mentioned lebron. He was equally as impressive. We who's coming on stretch. And he i think he beat you know he. He didn't run down a speed horse. He ran out of horse. That was closing with him. The shadow voice aqeel. Who looks like a really nice horse and making too. I think he's gonna be very good and actually like all threes horses. What's up for the third horse by the way is what scholars fusion ruin to horrible racist. Looks like a big disappointment. Paid a lot of money for him and and the he just didn't look like anything they put blinkers on him in this race and he was up on the pace the entire way and you know he was. It was a fairly legitimate pace on that on that racetrack and he just kept coming back. He just dug in the stretch you know. He was beaten a length but he would come. Effect was trying to come on again in. Finish so i would watch out for. And he's got the pedigree really so the first three finishes in there you know the blonde s- akil and scarlet fusion all to were to watch coming out of their nice and. I'm glad i'm glad actually you brought you brought that up and it's a good. It's actually a good segue here. You have the the guy who does a lawn is out there making an awful lot of noise and you're coming across extremely Low low so. I'm having a difficult time. Disguise right five feet out my window by the way and now i hear i can hear the humming. Now i either you brought up scarlett fusion and it. It is interesting that he ran north. Better can you can you to do that somewhere. I can't hear what saying will go upstairs. Moving got steve. It's live radio exactly This this makes me for those for those. That know this reference from years ago and i mean twenty years ago maybe Tony kornheiser when he had the radio show and in the early days of stream inc. There was the off air. You could hear the behind the scenes. Basically they would take breaks but if you were listening from the website and listening to the stream you would hear what was going on while the commercials were running and There's the famous. I forget who it was. What guest had to go answer the door. There was having a castro convertible couch bed delivered. And and if he came. If i if you're on twitter and you remember this the tony kornheiser show the the castro convertible. It became a running joke about a having. You know having the castro convertible delivery people at the door. And whenever there's something like this there's a dog barking. It always makes me think of that. It was just hysterical. The the off air stuff was funnier. Sometimes a lot of than what went on air and on air was pretty funny. Guy just came started but i mean he's got my steps. I don't know what he's doing it steps up here. Yeah when clinton cleaning food the birdseed off steps or something. I have no idea. I wanna talk. When i was a kid used to have all those castro convertible commercials you know castro convertible in the first thing. I thi westchester belcastro. Sold beds exactly. That was a certain age. The the the whole the whole gag was when it came to those commercials. The owner was the owner's daughter or niece and east yet pulling out the bed. A seven-year-old could could pull out the bed out of the couch and The if you grew up in new york everybody had lived in an apartment. You know what we're talking about The the the pull out Pull out bed from out. From the couch thousand castro. Even this little girl can pull out the bed right ninety or something she. She's she's like a little bathrobe little. You know a little girl comes pulls out this thing like it was not exactly you know the the fifties right. There might even been earlier than that. I mean there's always been there's all your for those that you know the live in any city where the lived in an apartment and you had either studio or a one bedroom i lived. I was in kansas city. No there was someplace. I lived where i had An apartment where. I had a murphy bed i was just i was just gonna say that was the other one. The murphy beds that was That was the ultimate saving space. The murphy bed literally went up into the wall. And and sometimes a murphy bed would have like a table attached to it and and when you put the murphy bed up the table with snap into place ed. You'd have like a you know it was. It was a combination bedroom kitchen crazy. Just crazy murphy. Bet if you bet is What's the james bond movie. You only live twice. That's true that's right opening. Look at you look at you. I love it steve before we go to the website. I i want you to look at the rebel villages things to be While we're still on that day. I want to mention probably the most impressive horse that this day was not at churchill downs. That day was film with john. Sheriff's coal parnelli. Yes yup and i think that's a horse definitely to watch your first three three races. He ran second restaurants. You got beating neck. Time got beat her neck. My hot rod charlie. He came back in And ran huge. Obviously in the breeders cup and then he runs gets next spielberg who came back in one when a stake so He just looked really really good. I like everything about him. Yeah he would he went. He went wide You know we still green. He was He was kind of late changing leads but he won He won van. Dyke never touched him with the whip. I thought he looked very very good. He's by quality. Road is out of a bernardini mayor ton of pedigree there especially on the female family so Keep an eye on keeping personnel. He looks like he looks. He looks like he's going to be a good one. I brought him up. Brought him up this week too and i saw that race live and I liked the. I liked the looks See where we'll see where they were sheriff and it could be that That he ends up ends up in the sham as well as life is good. You know the that could be the first major three year old showdown west speaking a witch steve as we moved to the revson and going to bring up ten for ten. Obviously shug any any thoughts about the first round of future wager action. I thought there was a lot of a lot of horses. Consider a overlays in fact that one is that looks like it could be a big steel if he runs big into renton is that railways picking time. Let's run number one like ninety two one in this race. I mean he had won the. It wasn't national mistakes and it looks like he was getting good. He started out his career at monmouth park but he moved up into the big time right professional race. Buy stakes thirsty You know he certainly gonna go to distance but that was a huge huge price in them i. That was one of the three horses. That i i mentioned to people and and i thought so. Too that pick in time was a value and That horse of one of the asmussen's midnight bourbon. I thought was throws west race. And you know. I know he was well beaten in there but you know it was one out before they were excellent. I i thought he was. I thought he was a big price in there that they who really i got no respect at all of the california courts i mean which which doesn't make any sense even bauer who ran a really good fifty the breeze cup he was he was the way he close at eighty. Something the one. I mean he was crazy but if you look at them all thought to shovel and get that one racist monstrous prices. Just what about how. Nobody paid attention. Hot rod charlie was thirty four to one What was wrong with his breeders cup. No i love racing. Breeders cup i challenge gonna be terrific course i mean i forgot. I forgot what he went off at but it was like thirty thirty nine to one thirty four thirty four to one four to one You can't you can't really fault was at all you jolly by the way he's last two races you know Doug o'neill he put blinkers on the horse. And and and he broke when he broke his maiden eaten by net. Cody beating their finale. Which makes parnelli look. You know like i said even better so he beats personality. Who comes back and wins by Seven or whatever and then he comes back in the breeze cup. second time Seconds blake is. John goes off at ninety. Four to one and i thought he ran a tremendous race. I think that what happened in that. Racist and i thought he moved to soon shit and bacteria made a big move right up there right. Fighting for the lead at the stretch and essential qualities just came up beat him in the last strides. So i mean i watched charlie price was kind of i kind of ridiculous ridiculous price by the way you know. Everybody sees bathrooms. Got another monster you know. Life is good but favorites. Come on offer one six and a half long race. Yeah you bet you make your favorite over a two time. Grade one winner. The pedigree owned by godolphin. And you're gonna you're gonna make an intimate stuff wins to six and a half long first time out listening. I know he looks phenomenal in the race. But ain't gonna make him the favorite for the derby now. Although you realize by the way you look you talk about prices on the first first pool. I don't people realize this or not but authentic was the first pro and close to fifty to one. Yeah we talked about last week. One hundred and three dollars and only don't only two horses in there. I think it will. I think there were a total of the total of four four horses from that. I pull at made. The derby. eighteen did not make the derby but as for horses you got the first two finishes always eleven to one in that in that first pool so you can. You can find them there. You know. I mean it's not gonna happen every time to me. It's still a sucker bet. You're going to be in november but this if you had last year in the first at fifty to one you did pretty well. I mean it's but it's a nice words as soon so we got to watch the fire. Will we'll see what happens when he goes back to the dirt else assuming they'll put them back on the dirt. Sixty five on all other is crazy. I remember the other california by the way that they told the ignored. And i don't know why is red flag. You took account sheriff's. He's got two big ones right now. He's got primarily an red flag. He wants his last race in the bob. Hope you know he's coming off. The graphs bringing broke his maiden by a neck coming off the grass goes through the bob. Hope and again he's frightened. He's got three horses. Four horses across the crack the whole way asians dresser off which over seven lengths and even changed for each in the race. He's kinda green Again people are gonna look around by camera crews were but but i'm telling you he's female family is is terrific as well. He'll definitely get. Oh definitely get a distance but he was. He was also like we're about thirty eight thirty nine to one or something like that. I mean. i think he's definitely a horse to watch. I red flag jeff's got two bullets authen. Well steve let's round this out and slip in a revson thought and of course the rumson ends up a lot of times being maligned later on but We got five of them. Go in the mile and the eighth one o'clock on saturday the fourth and shook who's been on a nice role and particularly with his stake runners ten for ten in here for don atom This is the frosted coal. We talked about picking time a little bit. Vinnie viola has got the home-bred known agenda Danny velazquez comes back to new york off of the state bread win in the sleepy hollow and then we got pretty much. A rank outsider A little bit with jose corrales. We certainly respect erawan Talk about this revson group before we go. Yeah what i what. I'm not a fan of the ramp. I honestly i'm not a fan of i'm not a fan of or going and a two year old. I mean he look he looks like twenty five years. You realize one. Remington winner has finished in the money in derby. Twenty five years in the money. That's bluegrass cat. It was thirty to one in the derby. I was fifteen years ago. I mean every you have to every single race is what is one one fifty four one fifty three one fifty two and fifty one fifty two every year if I i think you have to go back for like fourteen years or so Fourteen fifteen years before you can find out who broke one fifty and no business i. The renton was great. When it was it was only a mile for fourteen. Years then was a mile is one bike. Damascus carry back northern dancer. Keeping them in jim french. I mean that. That's that's the kind of race. I wanna run in now. I don't wanna run holidays now. Especially now it's it's december. What do you do. You gonna go right into three zero campaigns trainers and you know me and my kick of start now sprints. Trains don't wanna do that. So that's why i think. A lot of these watches they get to the derby mile nice mile nays and adult and they just keep grungy same to turn races and i. I don't know we'll see what happens this year but five horses in here but this is kind of unusual you like you realize but like five of these horse of these all of these five horses three of them a lotta broodmare sires who bred europe that most people don't even know who they are. I mean talking about picking time. He's he's a mayor by king of kings. Who was it the decent awards but known agenda the todd pletcher horse is out of a mare by byron and everyone is out of a mayor by caradoc. Got some strange gets restraints pedigrees in here but You know on the surface ten for ten and looks like it. Looks like we're going to have some bad weather saturday. It looks like Rainy looks like we're gonna. We're gonna get drenched on saturday so most likely it's gonna be sloppy track so on a slop. I mean i don't know who's gonna run with ten for ten a bogus maiden in the slop by eight lengths and killed speed less time out in the nashua. You know you've got beat by picking time but you know he went He went twenty two and came from forty six flags. You know he's gonna go. You know go in this ratio five horsfield forty nine three or fifty or something like that. And i you know he's gonna be out there on the lead he's gonna be he's gonna be very he's gonna be very tough in there he's he's only speed in the race. I don't see anybody running with him. I take that intrigues me. In his and in fact. I talk about mile next known agenda. Not only is running a mountlake. But he's running for money for the second time when he broke his maiden going amount nathan was and one fifty five and four. That's not even good time for a mile and three sixteenths but have to detract was extremely dead that day because that was the same day as the natural picking time when one thirty nine and four so you throw out file times that race but this was coming off of one six and a half furlong maiden race striking out to a mile and eighth on a dead track and you know he showed goop tactical speed and from you know from like the three eighths pole to the wire he was going ahead and had the whole way and out outgained Greatest honor and greatest. Honor isn't really nice. Well she came back and ran huge race to speakers corner. Who's in the future wager. Who looks like he's going to be speakers corner. Looks like he's going to be a really really good horse and he outgained him in that race and great honor ready to start to finish twenty one lengths ahead of the third horse in that race so i thought that was a really really good race for him and now he's You know now. He's coming back at another mile an eighth race. I would just love for you to start him out in the sprint race. Forget about the points already. You know if you look at the points but this that desperately needs to be just sharper. Now we know he's got speed. He was running. He ran second first time out going six and a half furlongs to highly motivated. Who is one of the top. Two year olds now. You know we so we saw what he did. The at canaan and I think this is a really good horses by curling. You know he's added byron man. I'm i'm definitely with With byron but marriage also reddening breanna But i was very impressed with dot. He'd just to stretch out from six after awhile nathan. Show that kind of game this against a really good horse who absolutely demolished the rest of the field And it johnny velazquez. Back to carry moose. Wrote them last time out Whether he wins his race or not. I think he's definitely a horse to watch in the future. I think he could be one of todd's best ones but it wasn't anybody anybody go industry. We don't not much about these horses. I mentioned before everyone. Yeah he's coming from laurel. You never never underestimate the These horses coming from maryland. I mean they were. We always run. Well he ran well last time out but you know he probably be the longest shot in here. You would think even worse like brooklyn strong your bread. He gets or teachers. Obviously writing ten for ten zero ts and but it gets was reo. What i love about this watch by the way is that he's saying so that the oh bs april sale you not to the two year old sale by wicked strong out of your door on me house. Low must've this horse at breezed on the ratio. Show to be self five thousand dollars. I mean i don i. i don't know why but it's a great stories. Come back now you know. He's one He wanted to sleepy. Hollow and i even if even if he runs third in this race. You know to be a great to winner. He's huge bargains. Selling for five thousand dollars. You got the pedigree for sure down. That's over what you mentioned. The other danny velazquez. It's interesting in their own. Right for sure. I mean you can just look at the i. I'm just. i'm just five westfield. I'm very surprised that the only five horses in here but we'll sing. And you know normally the remnant in november. You know now you know now. It's the put it up a week so it's now in december. So what do you do with these courses. Now it's run a mile. Nathan's december he's horses. Don't get any kind of you know break from two to three because you would give given to start back again in january february but just wondering restrained is. Please don't be favored by the way. Start your sunscreen. that's that's a pet That that's the pats i just remember. I'm telling you every year sixty seventies eighties every campion every classic winner started out as a sprint but because the points system i know i know. You know preaching You know from my my pulpit again but year after year. it's the same. It's the same thing you got the points now. We don't wanna go on the screen because there's no points in sprint races. But if you got a good horse you got. You got two or three other races to run into get points. Forget about that. Just shop them up. I mean all these modern eighth races mildest sixteen miles an eighth mile nathan. I don't know. I just. I just remember the way. Wait for it. Used to be everybody started out in the sprint. And i mean everybody you go back to every champion you can name in the sixty seventies and eighties and everyone from started out in the sprint race. But it's different ballgame now. Nobody does it. So i just hope one of these trains gives it a shot. If they went back into spring would be my derby right now. 'cause i just love it when i see what starting at and i don't mean going from to seven or something like that don't she's dropping back from a mile champagne especially if you turn race drop shop john. They root always told me he said. You gotta shock you. You gotta get a horse sharp. You have to look like seattle. Slew wanted champagne. So and billy turner his main thing would shell slow gotta again to go mile and a half. He's got so much speed really. He do runs from seven furlongs. First time out. He went certain seven phones at one. Twenty three but that's the way it was done. You come back you come back and and and you come back back to to turn again and your sharp you shop. You got that good sharpener in you you just. I don't know. I just feel like i said. Find these horses. Just start running. We're kind of dull. But what do i know you've been we've been banging this now you've been you've been driving this one home for a while We're going to have bob marino. Join us here momentarily. Steve and talk about low. Sal and of course usually the fraternity and the starlet run. The same have traditionally run the the same saturday but they split them up this year. So we're two weeks away from the futurity bobble explain what transpired there. And we'll look forward to the remington and the demoiselles and cigar mile day. And we'll recap it all the next week. I didn't even ask you about bodey. Expresses will save post. Corrado ran ran ran his race but not quite the same voices was last year but expressly know he would let them get you talk yet himself. Steve i appreciate it. This was fun and talk next week. Take year steve. Asking everybody secretary dot com. And we'll see what What steve works on coming out of the weekend. We're gonna stay here because we we're now we're getting now. We're getting tight on time bob. Merano joins us from los alamos and the first couple of cards are up and ready and that includes the great one. Starlet on saturday. Bob good morning. Good morning. Steve how are you. I'm good. I'm good and happy to connect and look ahead to tomorrow and the three weeks the first order of business. Explain how you arrived at the decision to break up the two two year old stakes. Strange that kind of throwback from years ago and i. I know chances are highly unlikely that this could happen the way things are but many years ago with hollywood security and the del mar featured in every time when we had people like wayne lukas out here. I can't tell you how many times he won the del mar debutante of the opportunity Wouldn't was about two or three weeks apart with some of those phillies that he had. But i decided if one of these studies would happen to run away from this fill which i doubt if it will now with with bob baffert street phillies and richard mandela's if one of those would run away just maybe they might want to supplement for that fatigue kicking. Yeah yeah those are the wayne lukas days. Maybe they're over with. But you know what i just thought i'd take a shot and and we'd have spread apart and have to good raises on you get a weekend. Well as it happens it it. Just i mean it worked out particularly with mandela. Because he was not sure initially after after his philly one. He wasn't sure iffy. Come back in three weeks. But obviously he's happy and in fact She fired off a very nice half mile preparing for work exceptional work. Yeah i think i think. That's what my the changes minor or tipped him over little bit to the side of runner. She was so impressive at del mar. And she's such a beautiful philly. I just It should be race. Philly of bobby's they're taking Taking the blinkers off of. Maybe relax a little bit. But she She's a special affiliate anytime affiliates favorite to win the breeder's cup juvenile fillies. They're they're good. They're good feeling well. Astute is the mandela philly. She's a spy town. And alan j foxwoods princess nor of course and you know the the Calypso on the rail Broke the maiden in the inoki is going to stretch out and so some speed there. And then there's mccarthy with dean who Nice breaking the maiden right may have to feel pretty good about it because he had a supplement that she was a nominated. Intra lying there. They're they're having to put fifteen thousand dollars by the time they enter and and run so they they have to feel pretty good about her. Put up that kind of money to run against the feature on saturday To thirty pacific so five thirty eastern. So it'll be right right in wheelhouse of everybody's play In the afternoon. And you know even though this race came up with just the the quintet the the maiden race before and after you've got state breads on ahead of it and then open company after and you got overflow fields so you feels like bob. You've got a nice for these three weeks before say at the nita returns. It feels like you've got a nice population. i mean. These two cards are are a great way to start the meat. And we've got some good numbers steve knock on wood Shame by what's happened to the horses up at golden gate and the and the people of their the trainers and owners but It's it's helping us a little bit here. There's probably a probably a maybe a dozen doesn't horses on these policies card that are from golden gate would normally be about that. Made a big difference. That's nice Well i. I'm not gonna i. It's your benefit and to players that are going to attack these carts and how how does the. How does the three weeks. How do they look to you. Overall the way you've got planned out you know what going into steve. I was a little shaky the second week but the way things that were the numbers that we have I've i've got a few years back on today that races that have come close to philly or fill than i wasn't able to use the last couple of days so we've got some. We've got some ammunition of fire here. And i think there's a good shot What's that wasn't Wasn't too sure. Before but i think there's a good chance we could have some decent numbers to the entire two weeks. Maybe the last few days might be a little tougher with getting close to santa anita and some of the doors to stand in the brian. but but We've got a shot at having some decent numbers for the next couple of weeks. What what's the bio will look like on sunday. I've only got a couple of phillies in there so far but We gotta go twelve nominations. I'm not sure exactly how many of them are going to run. It's pretty wide open. There's a couple good calvert. There's to craig lewis and Another facility that mike mccarthy has and i'm not sure if they're going to run but there's there it's a competitive race and i if i can get six or seven on the go. I think it'll be a pretty good right. There's always it's always interesting looking at at the. Pcp's for these races and some of the lower level claiming events and particularly the races that are going short. they're going five and a half There's always the potential for you to get you know some some of the you know the the half the half mile type quarter horses to that. Take a shot at these purses. absolutely the i've got one allows racers. It's kind of a smile race to the year that just five eighth opened allowance rates a couple of times racist when a couple of times. It hasn't but i like fast horses. I'm better anybody. I'm more of a quarter or guy and I like fast horses and The five as race open allowance. You have some of these thousand yard races here at night. Now that they run that They have some restriction races. They have some open racist. They've got some stake races at eight seven and maybe a couple of resources might step up to run against those kind of horses. I've been running down and like the three other. Those type of racist i i'm partial the fast sources. So we'll see what happens you know. I'm disappointed that Really for the first year and probably five six five or six years We haven't you can't come in for the The arizona for the symposium. And and i would pack it together with you know with a trip to los al and the it also included very frequently the night action and You know these these weeks. Overlap very nicely typically. I haven't talked to steve. Anderson probably will actually talk to steve With with jay privet on on vacation for a couple of weeks How how're the juvenile futurity and a champion folding into the early part of this. Both both those racist should be super rice dish. Dave there's an old horse that won. The champion of champions is a three year old. And he's got a little sister named Apolitical patty who was the fastest qualifier for the for the for the security and they're both Zuma for spuds is his name and he's I wanna say he's seven years old now. He's come back this year. Run as good as he ever has and not has an as an share that wants to run a quarter of a mile and a half if he breaks running. Kid be very tough to so They have another race called the southern california that they had qualified the other night. And that's turns out to be a really wide open race. But the paternity. They've got some nice babies and the older horses There's even filling that come from back in the mid west qualified. For the champion of champions. She wanted take the other night and she's going to be very competitive and They they just turned out to be true good racists for the for the by time. I'm looking forward to chapel champions. That's always been one of my favorite races. Well and for me. It was a huge treat to to have that day-night doubleheader that You know i in the afternoon included the futurity and the starlet and then went to dinner. with jape permit and john wieden and tracy and then came back for champion of champions. And it you know i. I can't obviously the situation right now. Makes it hard for people to take things and although you you've got what's the attendance situation In the county are you maintained The opportunity to have patrons and now they're not but what happened to they've made just like its sanity dumber. It made out of for the owners to come in to be on a horse. They can bring a guest and Of course there's the social distancing and but no regular patriots. Unfortunately which a sad thing right now here in orange county but They are able to their owners able to come and watch the voice run and bring guest at least at least we got that They can enjoy their enjoy. The horses well when when things relaxing and Become back to back to normal If you've never been Whether you're a quarter wars fan or or Thoroughbreds more bulky. It's it's a terrific terrific atmosphere going down to to cyprus. I've really come to really enjoy. And so i'll miss it badly but I'm glad it was. It was awesome. I mean it. it's you know. You can't blink. You can't You drop if you drop something if you drop a the ticket. Don't down wait wait until the race is over before you pick up your ticket because otherwise you'll miss. You'll miss every day with us from los allen bob speaking of missing. I do not want to wrap this without giving an opportunity to talk about your goal and it was. It was not a good year for some of the venerable. He was my cousin. Think it's okay. I thought it was i. I knuckle okay. Yeah he ran older than i am. And that's why most people do think that he was my uncle but he was my cousin and the you know he trained some awful good horses at seventy two or like saying inches and and horses and not only was a great trainer. But you can talk all the people around the racetrack. They loved him he will. He's he's missed immensely. Believe me i used to tell my brother and my dad I think he thought the world had me more so than us. I told my brother. I said he would have had to choose between henry and myself. Mine brothers if we'd have been out my dad loved him. My dad loved him but a lot of people did around here. And thank you for for saying that. I know we had a parade of of people that pay tribute and You know and of course with berries passing and with It's just that i've said that they they need to put like a plexiglass box over over the table at say the nita and nobody you know. Nobody melts duty. I mean the for for the three of them to pass within what the four months twice for exactly. Yeah exactly now. It was a sad day racing to lose those three guys. I'll tell you that right now. The sad day they were great guys all three of them and they'll all be messed. They are different personalities. And they're all great trainers into We'll miss him. Bob merano Best a lock to everybody tomorrow and Be watching and looking forward to the other stakes action including the the big juvenile great one great to the starlet and the futurity by cohen sunday. And thanks again to the dock. Allred do deserves endless appreciation from the industry for his generosity and know always there to try to help the the sport in southern california. Thank you very much. Thanks for the time. appreciate it. not at all bob marino. Everybody and los alamos racecourse as we refer when it comes to thoroughbreds and the designation l r c as opposed to la for the quarters I will get steve anderson and we'll get we'll get some quarter stuff from from steve because he loves it anderson. Anderson's unbelievable whether it's thoroughbreds whether it's quarters whether it's international The over the over the hurdles he. He goes to cheltenham every year when he when went allowed and He's he's my My go-to for the quarter horse action. So we'll get. We'll get steve baby tomorrow. Back fact tomorrow. Probably be good because this on break we talk to rich and i guess we're gonna we're gonna stay here for the last twenty that the ticket. Yeah all right. Sounds good and While we do that. I will reach. I suppose rich mate is a chance with things. Not starting at los altos tomorrow. Rich probably did a little simulcast action. And i imagine he might have looked at He might have looked at new york today and There was one race that here. We go the eighth today at the type. I told you i looked at a printed a bunch of. Pp's just you know got interested in and caught my eye the eighth today and they're on the turf new york so There's not going to be too much more. Let's be honest Rain expected to start tomorrow at some point so it might end up knocking out. There's only one turf race scheduled for saturday and there were some turf. Races brought back on the overnight for sunday. So we'll see if they card them and and how they handle it But the eighth today is a six furlong. I read the first Level allowance for new york breads and These are boys and why you're in the background. There was rigging there it is. I do here rich and not only is it rich and saying who's a year older than when we talked to him last. Yeah i count my asian like a tree. So i've got a little rain happy birthday you and you would. Cherie deville share a birthday. That means we're We're happy sagittarian. Yeah there you go yeah. It was Yesterday i had it written on my. I had it written on my pad and then we got the end of the show and i didn't slip it in and enrich we certainly referenced. Everybody before. Breeders cup that You know to to look your way you and gossen And dick powell with the analysis For for breeders cup and And i don't think we've spoken since we. Oh it's been a long. I know i know you know. I've had a couple of people. Are you still on the show. And i actually. It's my fault it's I gotta tell you a part of it is asking because you know ask it. Haskins has haskins like the filibuster. I it i tried. I tried half a dozen times to pull them up. But there's no there's no. And then when i do interrupt them finally he he's like what what what he saw. As i've known for a long time act you work with joe and asking the new york reason you sociation. I love them both. If anyone's going to prison time it he's got a million in two stories that yes so he he he was. He's been a little bit of the occasional blockade That that has ended up making a short for time. Well give us you know. Catch us up rich and not only not only on you know what has gone on Handle wise but You know you've been keeping us all through pandemic. You've kept us apprised as two things at in vegas and Fold that into our our our things up. Since i in in a few weeks i can give updates on iran vegas. One is certainly We're still affected Pretty badly by the pandemic by coronavirus. Is you know until people feel safe to travel. Our our tourism business is really taking a punch in punch in the nose. But you know. I think people are very optimistic for twenty twenty one and you know especially with the vaccine seemingly right around the corner steve which would hopefully open things back up again and make people feel safer as far as in town. I i know on the strip sti example on the other day i had to go to The mandalay bay just to take care of some business and they closed the hotel part of the casino. Gambling part is still open of the racing sports book and all the slot machines table games but i walked around mainly which is one of the you know creamier properties here in town and it so iri was like a ghost town. I mean i feel store. i could've gone around and introduced myself to the people who are gambling. There one by one covered it all and fifteen minutes but You know hopefully things will improve You know some other strip properties you're also You know shutting down some of the Mid week business because it just doesn't make sense to stay open when there is a lack of tourism and gamblers. Real positive note was the opening circa. I i can't remember if we actually we did we did. We might have been the last time. I was on but i i have been over circa. And it's a really magnificent. The brand new facility Really tip of the cap to derrick stevens to Continue to build. Even during you know the way the the past year has been it would have been very easy for him or sale corporation of some kind of put the red flag up the red light and say well. We're going to hold off until you know this thing. starts to normalize but he in an interview. He said that we're we're going ahead. I got too much at stake. My employees have too much at stake. You know investors are too much at stake so he got it on even during the course of this pandemic they open the a month or so ago and it's a beautiful facility The only caveat that i offered the The players listening out on the radio and Series and you know they're going be coming vegas. They do not accept Race betting on what their manager told me it was the big five days. Meaning the two days of the breeders cup and the three days of the triple crown so they will get racing forums and they will take you know or spending during those five days only but you know the rules are not permanent that if if there's enough people who suggest that they would like to play the horses vary who knows maybe derek stephen and the management would change their mind. But let's see how that plays out As far as the locals properties quite frankly i still visit my locals. Casinos the stations casinos a green valley ranch sunset of close to my house. South points also close to my house and We follow all the rules and regulations at the administaff by covering like in the management team of mass and the temperature gauges a check people before they come in all kinds of hand sanitizers all over the place. And all of these casino steve. They've actually helped employment somewhat because they got people all over the place wiping machines after people play and the also suggest if he if you want your machine cleaned before you play you just signaled somebody over and they'll sanitizing for you so we're trying our best. But it's still difficult stephen. On top of those difficulties. I did see. I did see somebody yesterday. When i we were talking about Turf way and somebody from vegas row with you know that they can't play turf way. And you know the signal issue continues to be. You know a spotty situation. No question about that. it's really hurt. Our product here in nevada What the situation is for your listeners. You're not familiar with what's going on. In the dispute is there is no contract between the nevada pair mutual association and churchill downs incorporated tracks so that means For example this past year we were not able to bet on churchill downs and now with the fairgrounds opening we can't bet on that with turf opening we can't bet on that so it it really takes away some really good horse racing from us to actually wager upon I don't know why this is eventually going to take their get these two sides to settle but Someone i talked to on the inside told me that the difference between the two groups is actually really squall. It's not large. It's actually reverend small. So i can. He could say something about. I hope i hope that common sense would prevail in both sides meet in the middle because the people who are getting hurt the most customers. I players. 'cause we want a bit on these products and i think Both sides are leaving money on the table. Let me don't allow us to wager on it. Well you know. Ten percent of nothing or three percent of nothing. Whatever percentage is is is still nothing and Each all right i. May i bring this up with the every once every three to five months. It seems to come up. And and whenever there's a new season you know a change of venue. The it comes up again so I i you know. I know people make do. And they'll you know they'll play know they'll play different circuit but Players should be able to bet on anything they wanted. It just doesn't just doesn't make any sense rich. Add going to add something to steve want. Turf way opens I have a very spot for turf park because pr director there for six and a half years and When i lived in northern kentucky try met my Wife sandy few in the area. And so i've got a lot of connections lot of roots back in northern kentucky and a turf way park and it pains me to not be able to say. Hey decapa here. They got a brand new topeka surface. That i i'm actually one of the arden supporters to the surface. Because i actually liked it when it was when it came out let turf means a lot to me and i i'd i'd like to be able to watch the signal well and beyond just having an appreciation or an affection for the racing From a certain venue the frankly it's gonna be a very good winter of racing turf way. there's quite a few horsemen that are staying. There's other oarsman that have sent horses up there for the first time and i mean the early the early reader these i the these first three cards that are that are out there. We come back again tonight. Giving example tonight again. Twelve by ten by eleven by twelve by twelve twelve by twelve by twelve. And then tomorrow night you got. The state goes the fifth. You got a full a very good field. Seventy five. Wesley ward favored that already princess But tomorrow to you've got one two three four five. Six of the eight races are twelve horsfield and then there's two races that have To allowances that got eight and nine. The the racing is going to be interesting and those that sort of got tired of that you know that that old beat up surface with the clouds You know the clouds of dust that erased behind you. You gotta beautiful new michael dickinson to the surface of the pita footings and People people will wanna wanna play. I feel badly Well and rich. Before i do anything else i also wanna get in because we do every december. I'll do it next week. The fame last minute. Christmas gift for horse players suggestions and invariably there's nothing easier faster and more well received than equine titles and whether they're handicapping books or their horse biographies or anything along these lines and i know that this christmas season you always triple crown season and christmas. You sell a lot of betting on horse racing for dummies. So we want to give push for those. That are have fledgling players on their list. The get rich his book. Yeah well thank you very much. I i give you a perfect example of somebody. Thinking about horse racing was a friend of my brother's Actually bought three of my books to give out to his family members to get them involved in horse racing because he loved horse racing and my brother suggested that he just send the books to me. Male books to me and i would autograph them which i did and i mail them back in the he paid for the postage on the return. But i'd be willing to do that for any of the listeners out there that if they do by the book and would like to have me sign it personally put putting notation it As long as they mail it to me and put in postage for the return. I'd be more than happy to do it. I love it. And there's virtually every predictable find purveyor of of books you you do. See it and i mean if you want the no the no miss campus option amazon. Got it of course and We you know it's a timeless. The way rich approached it. I mean it it's a introductory thome all the dummies books that we've over the years we've talked about how you know how it came to be and and the way you approached it and it's it's good introductory book for players coming to the game i would say i would say up to almost enter. Yeah intermediate beginner. Intermediate type players It's really a lot in it. And i put a lot of work into it in the beauty of dummies boxes. I think almost everybody in america has at least one dummies book on some subject in book. Bookshelf and the way. The books are written the worked with my editor steve at wiley publishing. They said assume that the reader has zero knowledge about the subject. And so as i would send my chapters. They would be circling. This circling circling. This thing yet. Be more specific. And so i think that's one reason why the book is held up so well over the years is that everything is explained in in minute detail as if you know zero about horse racing and that that's how we attacked betting on horse racing for dummies and new copies at amazon for under fifteen dollars actually Just checking so don't Don't miss out if you didn't if you weren't aware and i've got i've got one actually i i. I went to look behind me at my at my longstanding library. That is no longer there because tina When i was away for derby she she for whatever reason she moved things around and so now my library of books is is in the closet behind me. And i don't see them when i looked behind me a. I did childher a little bit for that rich. Did you take a look at anything. Did you take a look at anything today. Some productive some good racing and acqueduct today shoot because Los alamitos does not open until tomorrow. Usually i'll do a southern california. She didn't equity today and so If the people want to invest in it it's available at the race. Las vegas dot com website. This go to my homepage. And there's a pay toweling and It that'd be more happy offer a couple of plays off on my sheets. If you laugh. I'll tell you what. i think. We still have time for the opener. It's coming up in about twenty minutes. Or so i'm gonna use the number ten horse. Rosyth car is probably going to have a big winner. There on all the do voice go south writing for dominic. Schettino blinkers off. That horse has a big shop. Potential single for some players going horizontal and then Let's go to the eighth race. I was waiting to see that they were staying on the perkins Believe they are one of my cutback angles. That i really like a lot. Is the number one easy in race. Eight six prolongs on the grasp but the jose ortiz. Writing for brad cox. I don't think you'll get the eight the one in the morning line because of the connections but cutting back from these to turn around to a sprint. I think he's gonna sort of trip in finish because of the cutback so let's go with the one inclusion racing. My second i. I also Was gonna use. Dan fusi and i was when we were reaching for you. I mentioned that The eighth today was attractive and In addition johnny lands on on the couch the tan horse. Four to one for george duarte and i thought was was usable. Wild williams going to be the favourite at five two to three outlaws for actress is competitive. And you get car. Who you know is gonna get you involved. But i agree that. Dan fusi appeals to me as well especially at that price so the one in the ten. And if you're looking to fill out a try and super The seven eight nine with the other three that i would put in with them. Rich a great to connect. And i'm sorry. We missed her. The last few weeks and We'll finish strong and we'll finish twenty twenty strong right. Yeah no no problem. And i suggest people follow steve on twitter on facebook because i love the pictures of the food. You put up there that you know by the way. We almost almost forgot to include kenny jordan. Last weekend with a big contest win my man. That's my man. Took down ten thousand change. I saw he sees me a christmas card now. I love it rich. Hang everybody rich for pro. Pick on twitter and stay las vegas dot com for riches analysis the southern california and simulcast options. And of course we had to asking it and Got a visit with tony as well as bob marino. Low sal kicks off tomorrow. Dick powell little international conversation. Good luck with your plate today. Everybody weekend preview tomorrow. Plus a visit from tony oliva from the new york racing association kind of close out the broadcast season with tony. Good luck everybody. Thanks races with feedback on sirius. 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Lies for Likes

Bag of Lies

34:33 min | 1 year ago

Lies for Likes

"I am ready misread young joe. I write hello beautiful. People and beautiful liar hire more beautiful liars. I'm alita and i'm sure arena and this is bag of live where the podcast that explores identity and community through the lens of the harmless harmless white lies that we tell and we're talking about the harmless lies people harmless not the whole family on those i that one you know not lying for like work. None of those garbage live is the one that you like you. You tell them you get away with. Yes yes all the harmless white lies and today. We have a friend in the studio. Taylor taylor is a communication strategist strategist and she's like a professional genzer and she knows about tick tock and things and gucci things and all the things taylor. Does hey guys. I'm super excited and happy if you didn't hear but <hes> yeah my name is taylor. I'm originally from kentucky. I'm twenty two. I just moved out to the bay. Okay a almost a year ago so yeah just a small town. Girl china's shake things up over here. It must be so nice to be young age. I will tell you that was such a flag because like i'm twenty two. They throw it out there when you get to like when you become a woman of a certain rene namedrop your age anymore if you're just like on women of a certain age to be honest anything past five and it's not really worth talking about telling people ooh how nobody's gonna know how old i am. Don't even do either girl. We're happy that you're here yeah. 'cause we talk about some today and i think taylor's perfect for this episode. Topic of this episode is <hes> lies for likes and we're talking about the people who lie on the graham you ever clout taylor about that. I can see your face so we're going to jump into that. Ah but first we gotta get to the lie of the week. <hes> about this week melita well serena you you know how you lied uber drivers about the <hes> young divorced say yes ma'am. I lied uber drivers to about what reportedly about being a homeowner. That's a nice place is a black but it's not like i'm out here. Are you telling them like yeah owned property like visa or like. I got like you know vacation. Homes not an simply. You're not taking google image search of bake cows and being like this is mine yeah. I'm not doing that. What happens is they roll up to like my my place of residence and then they observed wow that is a grandiose does house on a lot like is that your house and then i guess what i live at and i own that magnificent property in i mean it's nothing it's not like. I'm new to this like this didn't just start because i'm living in this really nice house at oakland. It's not i mean it is nice house. There's a big house when i lived in new york too and i was like living like with my eyes. She has a nice house as well. It like uber drivers abbas will pull them like ooh why yes yes it is and like i think you know. It's the ultimate flex but it's a live at it. Just keeps happening shape. If you pay a ray might as well be yours especially with this california rent it really might as well bigger house really paying hang a full mortgage. It is mine right right. I'm saying this mike cloud. This is my cloud chasing mine talking about owning property saying i'm doing how stories on social media. That's my next step. That's how i'm going to elevate. This lie gets you a full sold son for yeah. We're talking about the market but you got in right before. Anything happened exactly. It's the market good time to buy or sell. They started doing the property. Taxes are too damn trying words. So is that why you perform this life or oh. No it just happens like as i'm getting up the car and it's just like yes. This is my house fair. Okay cool but we'll start performing cloud as soon. Y'all got got it got. It got it so serene use me. Wouldn't you lie about this week. We own wheel. I was walking home and and a dog ran towards me and i very quickly looked at the owner dead in the eye and said i'm allergic and then scurried away. Wait great. Did you feel compelled to like interact with this dog. We'll yeah because like you know like sometimes dogs. Just be running towards you and there just like pet me and like. I don't touch dogs that i don't know so well because like i don't know you your beagle. I'm gonna touch you like. I don't like being touched by people that i don't know so wait to clarify. You are not allergic to dogs. No no no no. I'm not allergic to dogs at all. I love consent what can say they're so curve ball. Aw what did you learn about this week. Oh gosh we're just lies that you've done in general breakdown the level of the type of lies utah like a small and medium. I am a big one. Yes okay so little is or you know. Those are the very harmless win so those are like oh. I'm gonna call you tonight and i know i'm not gonna call you tonight. I'll probably call you tomorrow yeah or for example okay so i- thrift it this beautiful like silk pajamas a long time ago and it's gold old in red and green and has his beautiful baroque print and ask route out roque wrote not to be confused fused whip borough roque absolutely not that yes this pajamas said it just looks so like lovely and lavish and just really expensive expensive inside when when people like complement me on it and tell me where i got it from unlike its vintage <unk>. That's where i got it. From in all reality it was a fourteen dollar. Thrifty pajamas set like silk upset pantsuit from undisturbed store and it's fourteen dollars so i can relate. I have passed off. Fake should now all of that. I'm gonna kick out here line about that really got gucci money exactly because not me no no cause for baroque. We broke up a rope hashtag for baroque heart here first so what's your what's your medium type of live. Hey so the medium this is kinda. Weird gets a little like sticky in the little muddy but okay so the medium is i typically will usually usually involve like my friends or like people just don't want to say no to or just don't want to hurt their feelings so like sometimes like if people asked me to do things intentionally originally overbook myself so that i have an excuse not to go to it later which may not even make sense. It's just one of those things that i do like. I just say yes to everything so it's hard to plan it out and so when the day actually comes that's actually when i decide if i'm going to do something that a day in that moment and so if i have something double booked. That's already an excuse to cancel on. If i don't want to go i'm going to interrupt for a quick. I don't know so if that's just you being a free spirit or if that's you just being hello flaky god. Are you free or flaky girl for your the both. How does that went. I'm trying to work on that one because honestly sometimes you really can just tell the truth. You don't have to lie all the time that's real okay. That's fair and then what is your your big lie juicy one so i can't can't reveal all the juicy ones because they won't be lines anymore but now there's this one instance for example happened last year so so i basically it's from kentucky which already told you guys that and <hes> the kentucky derby is there every may and it's just this horse race and a lot of people coming to town. There's a lot of money coming in town just a lot of traffic so i applied to be a bartender mind you. I've never ended in my life. I just go to the bar and it just drink but you know these people i can do. You know all i get at the bar is a little ticky pineapple juice. How hard is that to make a little tequila hot effigy did you this is hilarious five bartend i drink juice drink but yeah i told these people you know how to bartend. I was like okay. We're going to i see so they scheduled me bartend at the kentucky derby and <hes> jit the best i could <hes> there was some things i knew how to make and others not so much. Am everyone around me well. At least the people behind the bar could tell that i was in bartender. I literally had to ask like this one girl to open in a bottle for me and that was the biggest giveaway ever. Did anyone call you out so no one called me how l. but i will say that lie kind of spun out into their lives because at that time i was working part time job at dillard so i had to lie to them mm-hmm until them i had something else to do actually go in fake barton and even with fake barton. I didn't get put in the spot that i wanted like the spot with the most traffic and you know all the tips so thank goodness right. Thank goodness. I did actually worked out yeah. I mean i would have some money and i ended up leaving with a little bit of bread but like it just was not worth the lives. I wasn't worth it in the end. It wasn't worth it and you know that's the karma of love lies yeah so don't tell a lie that you really have to commit to that. You're not ready to commit to exactly don't lie about things that you cannot prove out if you only drink and you can't bartender exactly all right. So what else do we have in the bag. Serena okay so next item in the bag as tech companies company's door dash and i think amazon were both found to <hes> use tips as a way to like subsidize wages ages so you're onboard ash you order your chicken vindaloo you tip your door to usher five dollars and instead of giving it to them as a tip hip that five dollars was used as their wage. You know what this is traveling on so many levels wine because hell expensive and one thing and it turns out to be like twenty five dollars you take the extra you know. Change that tipping on here and use that for this after you're already charging me twenty dollars what are those other fees for eh because there's a delivery fee on top of that service and there's all these other beings and then they wanna take the tip but the wages like was me. Honestly you guys on burning a building down like i'm like where's my money. This is predatory v._m. Is just hella. Whack i'm sorry yeah and they're also kind of like essentially essentially like taking money from people that already don't have a lot because if you're out here like doordarshan and stuff like you got dough like that yeah these people are like riding bicycles and crazy traffic when you know they're traveling like rain sleet snow trying to bring my chicken vindaloo lay people pay them people take their tips is this is this is messed up traveling you right yeah. It's trifling all right so the last thing that we have in our bag is a model who lied about being trans after her transphobic comments came out on instagram and so the story goes that she was on. I think it was instagram live and she is making transphobic comments. She got called out. She got dropped by <unk> modeling agency and then she basically released like an i._o._s. Press release that said that she was trans and that's why she she had made those transphobic comments press release while you never heard that term. No that's hilarious. Oh my gosh. It's like that when you take a screen shot yeah yeah. That's an iowa's press. Release a real yeah yeah. I always press release yeah. That's it sounds a bit show. Let's talk about this model because this is a hot mess of story because it goes until several layers of crazy. Let me call her by her full name kariba pinkston. Can you wiling 'cause you had a great career and you made it a hot mess. You did i mean she modeled for like siva lingerie line. She you did stuff with marc jacobs. She was hitting runways and then i don't know what possessor because no one asked her opinion on this literally he was making all these facebook posts. You know that we're like full of like transphobic comments literally. No one has been surfing. Nobody literally no one just keep quiet and then she got fired and dropped her agency yup and you know what she did. When all hell broke loose she wrote. What did you say iowa's press release. Yeah she released. It iowa's especially like saying oh. She said i wasn't ready to come out about it yet but today i got fired and i've been receiving hate mail and death threats ever since i'm being forced to tell the truth to tell the truth. Y'all i'm transgender. I joined us in at a very young age and i live my life as a female ever since it's been very hard to keep the secret but what i said about trans women is a direct result of that sh- arena i am aghast it's crazy because after she posted this people who she knew her whole life from the days of like red light green light school yard wouldn't they were like wait. No she's not this is a woman. Her whole night insists woman this woman and so like people being like lady not only. Did you make transphobic comments now you you were lying about being a transgender one in what is going on. Does she think she was supposed to get her job back after like solved the issue of you being transphobic. I don't know i just it was so it was such a weird poor execution. That's the thing it's just like. If you're gonna lie about something lie about something something that no one can prove. She knows nothing <hes> literally nothing. She doesn't even know what receipts are because i'm so like so she gets called out right about like the transphobic comments and now lying about being a trans woman. This is just so crazy so then. She says she took to instagram again and meet another i._o._s. Press release it was like i panicked and i thought if i came on his chance that i could somehow make things better for myself but it appears. I've only made things worse this. Someone took your phone from you longtime ago truly but before she even made that statement. What did she say serena. She told people that her schizophrenic yeah. Her schizophrenic sister was posting for her see. It's just lie after live to lie and nothing ever comes good after that yeah like this is outrageous like you're being harmful. You're saying harmful things about the trans community <music> now you're like blaming like this behavior on like a someone who could possibly suffer from mental how yup it's just just lots of levels of just harmful behavior here sir and also the laziest light of all time girl ariana telenovela. She says i am truly sorry. I'm only twenty and and i'm human girl when i was twenty. I was not making mistakes that i made was overdrafted my account but i'm not out here doing that. This is you wiling while says yes. I know why didn't she just stay. Hurry schizophrenic sister made those. I post ceases you could've it could've been all over. You could already had a job like we're just admit to it because like honestly one thing about like lying for cloud. Is that like i feel like you dig holes and people will clap back at you and call you out and then you really have to own it exactly and it's like at once. They get to a certain point. You have no choice but to own. It and i do you so taylor. This is where your expertise is comes in. You know you are resident. Gen zere social media guru all around like you know brand strategists. Do you feel like you know the cloud chaser movement like lying for cloud has changed the face of like social media. Oh yes it definitely has. I mean at this point. Almost all of us on social media <hes> have either lied for clo- at some point or like that's literally all people's instagram's like have you guys ever heard. The phrase like your instagram is a liar. <hes> no yeah no that is true. People's instagram's be a liar and i think that like came straight out of the <hes> bowel challenge stuff so when bow was on instagram around flex in like he was in private jets and all of this stuff but really he was just taking images off google search and it's like bre is two thousand nineteen people will literally elite go and find receipts for you. Yeah like we have in your instagram's. We allow your guys also reverse. Image search is so easy it is so easy. I use it for everything everything. Who do you think are some of the social media people who are most guilty of lake chasing in cloud on social media definitely bow out for sure but then <hes> what's his name is also that guy the rapper takashi six nine yeah like the rainbow colored colored hair guy has tattoos all over his face so like when he first got onto the game like that was his whole big spiel was just cloud chasing so he would like <hes> <hes> go out and just talk a bunch of crap about all these other rappers or all these other entertainers just again cloud and so everybody was talking about him. <hes> you know he actually had a good music at one point. I album and it was hoke fan judging you. I'm judging in utah. You were saying he was a lotta yelling. He didn't get enough love at home as a child. No-one hugged him. Yes he was angry. Is he. Just the soundcloud rapper actually it was a soundcloud that he made the jump from soundcloud to like actually being like a rapper after yeah with people but yeah he was he's basically a cloud chaser sir but now he's in jail for him. That's what happens when you really dislike steer so far from the truth in you're actually like believing coming the lies that you're telling or like just like making these gross intentional lies like you're always gonna end up in a bad place yeah yeah so what were the things that he was actually actually doing like as a cloud chaser wasn't example like ways. He did it so <hes> one time he got his beef with chief key who is like this like big chicago chicago rapper and so he went into his neighborhood in chicago. It was like chief kief where i was at your door and nobody came out and did a but in all reality like he was literally in the neighborhood for ten minutes recorded that video and lift while and then he went and started like taking videos and pictures with one of his baby mama and it's just fight doing all of this like hanging ising stuff and just like just unnecessary stuff to gain clout and it worked for a second. He had a good lake. Mike little like dr going on but he knew downloaded his l. I downloaded that album. It was that's hilarious career. So chasing clout can work for some people yeah yes turn extent so it worked for him up to that one point and now he's in jail because yeah i feel like he's in jail offer like an old timey crime too. It's like racketeering records. <hes> another part of it he was like saying like he was a part of this gang and doing all all of dislike gangsta but in all reality he really wasn't he was just hanging around people who are affiliated with that but it's like that's what happens you you wanna claim you affiliated with okay. We're don't drop these charges on all y'all yeah it ain't cloud. No moore's real life now. This sad sad sad dealer. What are some ways that you've told all your social media okay so i guess my allies on social media come from anytime i go out. I'm always gonna flicks like i'm really out and doing pop in like so like if i'm going to the club i'm really going to take videos like other peoples bottles or other people's sections and claim them as mine because aw if you're not there you don't know tell me the same section in my bottles because guess what you're watching me all my story so you do not know yeah respect boom. I'm thinking no way. I have never done that. That does about the only i i i mean there's other times where it's like. Oh i mean i try to like cure a certain things or certain post but it's never extravagant to where i'm like blatantly lying yeah you just flexing yeah. Sly flicks it yeah okay. Let's let's let's do you feel like lying. Slush flexing is the only way to get clowns social media <hes> yeah or one no no not true so like feel like on social media. It's this whole like sheep perfect so it's like people just follow other. People are following so it's like you. Don't even have to lie at this point if you just have people if you just have a whole bunch entre people following you other people are gonna follow. You and that's cloud right there. That's so interesting 'cause it's like we did some research and we found that like only a two percent of people on social media expect like the people they follow to be honest so do you think that everyone's just like already like primed and ready to like like believe anything social media. They just know that everyone's out here just like flaunting and like flexing like they're just like ready for that. I think some of us is like i think that and i think like i don't know i feel like we want. People's lives to be true. We wanna believe it but i feel like that's always in the back of everyone. Ruins had that's like oh. This is instagram yeah. Do you ever catch your friends like flexing or doing cloud things. I remember eh this roommate. I used to have so she's super pretty girl super just like gorgeous superfund super nice and so like our instagram. You know it's just like a typical white. Instagram girl like super q gone money got all this stuff but like i lived with this girl. She did not pay the water bill one day and so. I'm like you over here here on the ground flex in like you've got this. You've got that and you're just like everyone is woman. Crush wednesday but you can't pay the water bill and now i gotta go shower and my friend's in town. Oh turned off and everything yes yes. I will never forget that day. Literally i came home for a workout and i don't work out consistently. It was an event yes. This was an obey and i was spilling myself flight. Yeah you did that today now. Mcgovern homes like a little shower. Nope couldn't even do it. Ooh town she ju- call her out on social media. Do you ever call people out on social media like your friends if they're just like lying for clout now not my friends i would no. I wouldn't call them out online. I mean i would just like tell them to their face that i need. I don't like people who black people also say a._l. Like now because i feel like we all do that. Sometimes you know we all exaggerate things or just like. I feel like there are certain people who need to get called out there. You snow foolery yeah on social media like old grow the transphobic like i definitely need to be able to call her out and they did and now her instagram is deleted but like ah i know you enroll life and i know you're late. Shoot me a text shimmy italian way. Don't tag me in some passive aggressive note exactly <hes> yeah. That's not you know yeah. Only the big like problematic stuff. Let's call people out on yeah. Well you know bottle popping bottles and club that ain't yours stories like keep that to yourself. What do you think social media would look like people just lied less because like eighteen percent of people apparently only eighteen percent say that their twitter and facebook profiles accurately represent them. I feel like social media. Well okay. There's there's two sides to the coin. It's like social media could be a grand place that people just started telling the truth like going back to when instagram. I started like it was super authentic. Take people were literally posting like what they were doing and so it was just you know a very safe inauthentic space boring spaeth boring space this is i was gonna say on the other hand. That's boring. I wanna see the cars are going to see the bottles. I wanna see the money that's inspiration and raising our aspirations. Ah oh okay okay i but yeah it would be a boring place without that. You know now we kind of need like the cloud chasers to keep. We do like social media interesting it. Yeah we definitely do it. Keeps you motivated and keeps you going keeps you. You know just on your toes and up to date in culture was going on those fair. That's fair. I'll take it i mean i feel like there's like you know inspirational racial clout in the cloud that just messes with your like mental health being like a man you know x._y._z. got the new you know swaggie ing burkan skin and i got no bergen. I got back from target. You know what i'm saying like. What am i doing with by life. Lake there comes a point where you shouldn't compare yourself to like the lies that people the fake lives that people are living so it goes both ways. It's like you need it there for like entertainment value but like you shouldn't take two zero asli never compare. I said about my roommate. All-girl is over here. Floss instagram became even pay the water bill. That's a lot of people out here on your flexing and you know you never really know. People's lives like social media at the end of the day is something that you create yourself and it's not real all the time and you just always have to remember <hes>. What do you think is the difference between the lies in curation who okay so. I feel like lies literally. There is no truth to it fair and then curation. I dunno. It's like you're creating like it's like i don't know i feel for me like if you were to say. Curation and curation feels more aspirational here. It's like i'm curious. The life that i wanna live like i want to do whereas lake aac if you're like completely creating this whole fake persona like that's like outright lie like there's no truth in it. There's nothing that i really want to see and yeah. It's more deceitful about like that. Let's agree. That's bad as fair so all right well less right up this time with taytay data with a little game of who ladd who know who lied is the game. We play with guests where we have them. Guess which one of us told this line malaysia stutthof read them lies grow so the first lie we got is since two thousand thirteen. I've been telling misguide that my name is a maya line number. One line number two told people my grandma is white to see more exotic line number three told a restaurant host about meeting a friend at the bar so i could use the bathroom. It was for customers only i i went straight to the bathroom and then i walked out we audi. That's funny because that's something i would definitely do feel like okay so that last night i feel like it's it's not you're judging me saying i save lives but also so at the same time i tell relatable lies. This is something i've probably done before rent up in a restaurant and bin laden meeting but no she reno told that line applebee's applebee's well. You can do it there. Appleby appleby should not be out here being like you can't use my restaurant appleans for everybody signs on the front too and i was like applebee's. I gotta go year like starbucks. Everyone should be able to use. Is your bathroom outta here. Applebee's true went starbucks having the lock on their door and you have to have a code of just like starbucks starbucks a so the second line was told people. My grandma is white to see more exotic like that sharia to what i why because that was just such a sharia like fair to be affair. My grandma is actually biracial so it's only truth muscled wildlife yeah so when you so people that about your grandma db like yeah. That's why i got this hair. You know no. It's really more like sometimes i'll like introducing conversations about race <hes> where people we'll be like being black and it's like my grandma's why you didn't even know that oh you just like throw people off serena out here and then our lasley since two thousand thirteen. I've been telling this guy that my name is a maya <hes> amaya shrina amaya melita leakers if they're doing math <hes> i'm gonna go uh-huh that is i met this guy on like a dating app like years ago and wait. Wasn't your name on the dating you remember. I think i think i might have created a whole different persona. Okay it might have been. It might not have been a respectable place to find someone. I'm not going to go into this anymore anyway. Always i told her my name and then one day turn into two days and three days ago mexican twenty fifteen and he's still my name is a meyer twenty. Fifteen km came away twenty seven. I was maya and so gary if you listen money's melita because it's twenty nine hundred and i want to come clean about it quick. My name is hilarious yeah exactly and this is one of those lives where you just got to commit to it. Eh there were signs to like that one day he's like hey what's up says you know melinda. That's my home my gosh so there were clues gary. You're actually saved on his one of the mayan. Everything wow i was out here. What a whole persona. I ah i like that. Though because i mean you probably wouldn't even attached to him. I mean that's what i start doing. Just giving out fake names attach tair. I'm into it. I mean you have to stick with the same fake name though i remember when i would meet people that i didn't like i would tell them. My name is rhonda. Oughta ought to back when i lived in my name's renata not. I don't know if that's sexy though i it wasn't like the whole thing was just the kind of throw them off and then like i put my i four put fake phone number into their name and with my fake names like there's just no way for them to ever track me. Would they ever like text number before you walked away. That's my fear of asking it all the time. That's what age do. That's what they do is new age yeah. They'll get your number and then i'll call you right in front of you know my gosh. I can't even pay hey gig stressful. I guess a- guy asked me for my number now. I just ask for their g. Yeah and i'll follow all of em. They don't try to do that follow back. I just won't accept walkaway by then. I'm gone by that point. You just got new following exactly exactly we. We don't have to give 'em fake names and numbers no more give them. The i g times have changed yeah what taylor it's been so great having you on the podcast hey guys there's so much fine with you. Liars love talking about cloud and cloud karma karma yes girl aw so shout outs and goodbyes she will before that follow us on all the things follow us on twitter at bag of lies and on instagram at bag of lies under under score podcast taylor people find you you can find me on instagram at say pock t. a. y. P. a. c. underscore underscore a double underscores and now for shoutouts back wise is recorded at cagey p._c. Radio with their generous support. We have our mazing producer goddess lights yvonne lie and our executive producer bob cohen aka bob marino baba bob bobby boo shutouts above yes shout out the mob our theme music is by madly and all opinions and foolish comments expressed here by by no means a reflection of our employers friends family or upbringing. I did our best. It was fun. 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PART 3: Jon White , Bill Downes

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PART 3: Jon White , Bill Downes

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A superstar Horse's name is afternoon delight and kept us on on afternoon delights absolutely galloping and the Hollywood paternity these are the champions that help out the horses that might not have won a great one race but always tried justice Har come visit the mall friends when you're in Kentucky or at our Bobby Frankel till division old friends and Saratoga I know they'll be glad to see old friends equine dot org or call us at five oh two eight six three seventeen seventy-five to take with Steve on Sirius Xm Tau Diamond Ski and I got trumped security the kind stranger Iraq twenty plus it to our three on a busy Tuesday. Thank Marshal Graham did not expect the did not expect expect a full almost fifty minutes with Marshall but the topic is so so furtive and and I mean there's so much about ah these may be given how much of a part of the landscape they are. You know the the multi-race bats and at least the industry failure for those does that are super conscious of the pricing in the industry has tried to respond by in creating a particularly the the pick five low takeout scenario and there there there seemed to me after having three of them in in a essentially a six day period that you know there was a topic to be fleshed out and whenever whatever Marshall comes audit it same thing with Maury Maury will be probably the to in the top racetrack racetrack economic analysis of types out there. You know well see you don't see him and I don't know if if rocky would do it but rocky who's known as math capper affect. I'll see rocky at Philadelphia this week he'll certainly the always uses there and I didn't see him at Saratoga this summer and the anything or anybody but rocky does some terrific rick analysis the same kind of of number crunching and distilling of mutual pool economics and look for his stuff at at the third graph board at the ask the experts board at therabreath dot com math capper but he's it's really rocky buildouts standing by Bill Good Morning Good Morning Steve Yeah you know I I I love when we have a pick five carryover Indiana grant as a matter. It's a couple thousand dollars all of a sudden the pools of balloon up as the better the just I love look on top of carryover 'cause because it's a win for the players especially the sharp layers of law well and in fact you we had one you had one that that didn't seem people might think it has to be six figures it doesn't you had a thirty something thousand the other in the last week the week before and it ended up being a very lucrative opportunity so they come in in all shapes and sizes yet that that I would agree with your take a couple of minutes and before we look ahead to the week. Let's let's go back. Let's go back to last week because I had a lot of fun the week before talking about the two the two big graces winter sunset and of course the D. Q. Elevated crews and came back with another nice sequence coming back with the Deanna breads and talk about the last week racing or yeah we had four Indiana bread. The stakes races a couple for the two year old a couple of four older horses and it was kicked off the city of Anderson stakes big upsets the she's the card came from off the state lady ally the second choice that had elite elite and midstretch but couldn't hold on but they didn't really go that fast it was the the two year old in the Hillsdale stakes that really kind of impressed me they read much faster like a cup to ask second faster and it was won by a to last words for trainer. Tim Shaw second choice in the race. thought the early pace my gem was his favourite gut but down to seven five and he had the lead in the middle stages but to last words wore him down and it was ironic to Indiana bread that was number five and that was the first start against Indiana breadth even though he's based in the Mid West and and to last words took on the stakes company and the last time out our before this last race that Ellis Park didn't do that well but he was obviously a much better than his race at Ellis Park and was able to get the win and the Hillsdale steaks and then the Maryville stakes would probably the race is looking forward or to the most showdown between unbridled class and expect India's Indie defeated bridal class last time out but umbrella L. classes on have a very good start in that race she broke much better to in that race on Wednesday in the miracle stakes had a clear lead lead was a half mile to go and only won by a length in expect any didn't make it close in the end and she was under a drive from the quarter pole the three to finish and she ran a pretty darn good race because I'm proud of classes on her game and brought a class turn the tables expect Andy and then the big big upset was in the brickyard stakes little Kansas came from all the pace and was wide and there was able to defeat Mr Manning another long shot. It was the WHO's trained by Tim Glass Glacier had all sorts of excitement then through victory and the agony of defeat but the Little Kansas was just coming off of a knowledge of three allowance win for state bread a race. I loved him in and then this race. I didn't think he was after the task but double south of the huge favourite at wanted to just never got it going and I don't know if it was just too many races and a period of time. I don't know what the what the the excuse might be but he finished a non-threatening six seconds from the rate operation Stevie. TV came from far back but it was able to to on coil enough of a rally and Little Kansas and Mr Manning was a big wrong shots in the brickyard stakes while going for a couple of notes out of this but that hillsdale where I thought it was I these were all really worth looking at and you know you had a couple of big prices and a couple of short prices says but that by ties gem who I kind of felt would would get you know the lead ended up getting bet favoritism and to last words. I thought TUCK got a terrific terrific ride. The Jose rebel Eh Raquel may exactly and there was there were two things about to last words we had talked not so much about this race but we talked about the maiden aiden raise the one is the fourth and Commissioner and Commissioner just do one after another is the two year olds are just firing and I need to look two three two three times. I mean coming into coming at the last week. I haven't seen all the results this week but coming into into last Tuesday commissioner had thirty four starts from eighteen horses his winning at a twenty six percent rate fifty fifty six percent in the money and this was the this horse this is going to go down as his first stake winner of any kind as it turns out at seven something there breeding wise you can kinda latch yourself on to some of these the new sires before everyone else starts you know getting on board and you know from any camping perspective perspective. That's what I would take from that yeah. Absolutely you mentioned she's the causes and Antonio Duran for owner Robert Saunders. It's almost fifteen to one thirty one sixty in there in the city of Anderson so what would what the pick for pay actually I lost track of that hold on one second here the all sticks pick for it was pretty big. I had a friend actually hit. I can't tell you who it is but yeah he was a thousand nine hundred thirty thirty one dollars seventy five cents or fifty cents Nice Very Nice Obama grant very nice there. It is a forty eight thousand which was nice. You know just the all stakes pick four. I I always love it. When tracks do that? love them when we do it. I love it the handicappers well I. I prefer much prefer the offtake stickler as opposed to. I don't know if it's if it's a big big big field than I don't mind like you know throwing growing in a regular rates in there but if you can throw all stakes pick for you know like they do with the coast to coast fix for that we've been seeing on Saturdays as well Antilles. That's always another thing that I always love per from a personal standpoint as as a better well we should also mention because we did spend time on it that fourth fourth race that Bayden Group Factory Vo came in with a core who got bat an had gone in as the five to two morning line favorite and the money's Philly was very good in here as it happens and one off by by a handful of lengths. I sent Sharia Sharia congratulations but her after a what what felt like a agonizing a slow start their training career cherise horses are are things are starting to kind of knit and come together and this was third win. I think of total of career so far she's one three different racetracks to so far so so congratulations to Cherie also little story that came out of that day was March Lena Petrova had got hurt early on and hurt his ankle and they went to the the hospital. We didn't know if it was thrown or not and supposedly just spraying I won't know until I get the track whether or not he is fine fine head to the ride today and I heard it was just spring to hopefully he'll be able to ride and then also we're supposed to have the return Sean Parker who I think he has a couple of horses that he's named on Day and then he's got five on on Wednesday so hopefully kilty back as well. He's been asked to last I Gosh couple of months. It seems like and so therefore hopefully our top go to jockeys will be an action this week in Indiana grand excellent well here we are and got a couple of ideas what talk about this week and anything we should be anything. We should like today out yeah. I don't think the Wednesday card is a little bit better than the Tuesday card but you know early on I got the unions I just I raised just an Indiana bread and I wanted to three lifetime rates but these are races that that come I'm up all the time at at at a racetrack rented not just for you know what I'm talking about every day condition type claiming races and pass the rush who is is the second choice at five two on the outside goes from an allowance race into a claiming race there were there was a lot of speed in that race on August the thirty first and I just think the pace near the complete opposite were for past the Russian this rate. I think he makes lead G. J Buster comes off a four length. I win but he got everything his own way. I thought in a race on August the thirtieth and so I think past the rush and you get the seven pounds from a very capable apprentice Virginia torme who picks up to ride for the first time for trainer Mike Lower and I think past the rush is a good play in race number one and then in the second race early on it's another one of those state bread races non winters of a raise in two thousand nineteen hours of four races just lifetime but there's not a whole lot of early speed in history either so I be leaning towards a horses with some early speed and a couple couple that struck me was the force colonial Jill who was at Ellis Park this summer ricky shortage tends to run it sources at Ellis Park during that time of year in the money three starts so speed and all three raises and I think in this race there's not a whole lot of early speed still colonial Jilin nine to two We'll see if that holds. You're not a tough line to make but I bought colonial Jill Interesting Fernando de la Cruz is riding smear for the first time no stranger at Indiana grant and easy deer has shown some good speed on occasion comes out of a decent race on August August the thirteenth had to deal with the ball and realize they're like Oh. didn't get the lead in that race in Shiloh who won the race on August thirteen came back have to win the next time out but those are the two I probably probably nine favorites in the race so I thought the banning perspective and then might be good to mentioned you know we're just talking about steep red condition claiming rates well the bunny the money's the same the the money you win will be the abetted on and Conditional Indiana Glamour's or whether you're vetted on grade wants it the six in the first four in the second and you mentioned tomorrow's Card and and you've made this point bill over the course of the season the Wednesday tends to be little fuller field and a little bit you know maybe just a AH little bit more intriguing from start to finish and you do have a sequence nine race card tomorrow starting to fifteen eastern eight horses nine eight eight eleven ten with an entry then ten with an entry ten with an entry and then ten in the nightcap so you've got a very strong series of multi-race wager opportunities in terms of field size have have you looked at that seventh race that you got that five and a half furlong I level they radically yeah I radically that's probably where a horse I like the most is in that red five and a half per along entry level allowance raise one other than going five and a half furlongs and the person. I like well. There's two in favor Sir I think are both legitimate so probable and keeping a class soap opera I think scratched out of a Churchill allowance rates in in in going in this race race for trainer Bret Calhoun but like the come from far off the days but hasn't better didn't fire last time out in mid-july than Austin said expecting a little bit better Graham soap bubble but keep it classy I for me. He didn't have a very good start at all in that rage. I was a very subtle type. Put it down my program. You didn't have to start that. Would you know if you WANNA watch that race back to ahead. you know show made a little bit of a middle move. Fire Crow was of won the race on August twenty seven got an easy lead and so keeping a class he made a Middle Move into fire crows soft early and and and faded back third went off as favorites. I'm hoping for a little bit better off they've been on the last score start. They clean something that they didn't like. They take the blinkers off but I think keeping it classy was a better a better. start is going gonNA run his race and then there's a horse in their interference the one a against conditioning claims last time out but visually Mike business it might have been in his best race ever winning by seven lengths than I can see why generic or a might take a shot against open company because if you win as an Indiana Bread Against Open Company in allowance races there's a forty percent going on top of it so interferences renting for a lot of money so I can see why Garcia's just not playing around anymore with state raises after that last race 'cause that last rates digitally was very very impressive but those are a couple of horses that in tomorrow's tomorrow's seventh grade that I think that she she gets five three eastern time and just looking looking weather wise the the sunlight will be fair along the Wabash and bill. I appreciate it Indiana Grand Bill downs one on twitter and some very good couple of good carts and particularly tomorrow and I appreciate it. We'll talk a couple of weeks. You got thanks bill downs everybody and Indiana grant the action thought you don't have to you. Don't have to wait for the weekends you got Prescott Indiana and finger lakes much much more. Let's take a break twenty minutes and we'll close out the morning's been busy and and John White we'll swing in. We'll get to a couple of things particularly low sal that we hadn't had a chance to discuss mark glac boy. Oh boy it is research a lot of ways. It is really been the year of Glatt another another stake winner for him. 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XM radio the Diet and we're back the racist just fifty minutes the close out this Tuesday and John White standing by and and John is standing by getting ready for the return of racing to Santa Anita but in the meantime another weekend at Los Al the and there's actually some a couple of good spots later already this week that are established they ran that I lo sal special the mile and a quarter on Sunday and I haven't talked about this race yet but John Joins us and John Mark Latte has had just a spectacular a year and here's another one that he claimed for small money and he recognized that that might enjoy a trip like this and he sure did it on the front end under Joe Talal what happened to John John there. I hear I hear sort of that. Sound of you lost John All right. We'll get back that'll happen. We'll get if you hadn't seen this zestful we didn't I the field was drawn Thursday but this is a horse yeah. I've been running a lot of mid eighty buyers seventies mid eighties and they claimed him for or forty thousand random back in a starter allowance which he won and he has been great for for an extended period pretty amazing and glad must've liked something about you know about as potential to go up a router ground. He's been you know you've been running a Mile Mile Sixteen theon he had actually tried a and one a mile and a half race. He's on the grass at Gulfstream. There's there's John White Jonah talking about zestful. What a claim by Mark Lad who's just done everything right all year all willy certainly has and of course very meaningful win for him that lawmakers mile my all time favorite race up into in the Pacific northwest which that's that's the big deal up there in for mark whose father was a trainer long inkers Ron Gland that that just men a lot to the family in fact it was great that wrong Glatt was there with mark on the day for the victory of the long anchors mile by law abiding citizen WHO's going to get get some time off and he'll return this winter at Santa Anita so he's giving some are in our after that long eager smile win but yes indeed this expose on this winning binge now and Senegal sapper out of a smoke lack of Marisa Nice pedigree there and Mark Lance meet some sharp claim and won some Nice stakes races and It's been a big year for mark well. He also has had really a a couple of chances with some big ticket some big ticket babies and it's great one of one of our really favored people and this you know th the I didn't do anything he hasn't been doing ran at eighty four. It's not like you know moved him upper anything it just this was a clever spot to you know to run zestful and he's he's been running in blinkers since January. It's also notable John. This was his eleventh start part of the year and he made ten starts last year and so this is a horse there's just thriving on the work kind of a throwback horses and also WanNa WanNa give credit to Bob Marina one of the nicest guys in racing and who does it just a superlative job as the racist secretary south coast else in that you know that's a tough spot to be trying to fill races and he's very creative Bob. Marino is so that's to his credit to to come up with a race like this so by the way you had bill downs just on. I sat next to bill in the press box at Santa Anita for several years. When I was doing simulcast commentary at Santa Anita Bill was doing the race the phone results trace he would go over and give the results but he was also an aspiring track announcer and he would be out on the we're practicing calling races and now he's been a longtime successful announcer at numerous rumors tracks but especially known for his work at Indiana grand and I also wanted to issue a happy anniversary Steve and for me? This is always each month on the seventeen th this is an anniversary for me and people would say why do you celebrate an anniversary every month on the seventeenth well it was on me teen teen eighteen eighty one that I met my future wife Tracy we have something in common you met Tina at a race track Saratoga. I met my wife Tracy at Racetrack Hollywood park which is just only yesterday. It was announced that site where the football stadium is well on its way to completion Asian. Now has a name so fi stadium is the official name of that New Football Stadium where the Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles charters will begin playing next year and so where I met my wife is now going to be were future. Super Bowls are going to be held and but I'll never forget that Eh Hollywood park and on the seventeenth and it was such an important day in my life and I knew it right away that I've given my wife greeting card on the seventeenth of every month since May Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-one starting kind of nineteen eighty-one given and then she got her greeting card already today thing thing but I kept up all these years as the price of green cards has gone up that is about as that is about as sweet and romantic a notion. I love that that's that's really that's great. Well not only that right but you know I had worked for several starting with the racing form of nineteen seventy four and my goals starting in nineteen seventy four had been to work my way up through the ranks to get the southern in California as a columnist and reporter and in nineteen eighty one I was promoted to that position and for the first person congratulate me on that was Randy Moss now. NBC Randy and I had gotten to know each other at Louisiana downs in nineteen eighty. He was working in publicity. I was a columnist for the racing form there have when Randy congratulated me on ongoing Bombini promoted with the form to California California he also said by the way there's a girl out there you need to look up because I think you two would really hit it off and he had gotten to know Tracy at Kentucky Derbies Irby's because she was the editor of the thoroughbred cal of California Breeding magazine and so I'd already been tipped off to Tracy Tracy by Randy before we met on May Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-one I can also tell you that was a special day of my life because John Henry one feature that day the the Hollywood invitational grade one race and that was the first time I ever got to see John. Henry run live because I had just been working in southern California for a couple of weeks and I here's one for you the winner of the race before John Henry was a horse called me good man Dan who has won numerous stakes Louisiana downs when I was there for the year before at his trainer was Mike Stem who was very young time hours hours of very successful trainer on the national stage so bike won the race right before John Henry won the day. I met my wife there at Hollywood park work back in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. That's many many years ago I love it. John Couple of notes about particularly looking ahead to Thursday low sow and I don't know if you had a chance to take a peek but the phone chatter you come back with the two year old phillies in here. You've also got a couple of good maiden races the fourth which is for the three and ups and then two year olds continued this continues to be a hotbed for the two year old maidens and I think we got a couple in here to to keep an eye on that four hundred and twenty thousand dollar Gingham from Baffert the drew the rail this is the quality road philly that finished second behind. KP Dreaming Eamon at Del Mar Baffert baffled but holiday offers got a pair Seahawk Lisa and this hard spun philly out of Seahawk Walker and then sentimental that Giovanni Franko who's off to a rough start at the meat Franko was over nineteen nineteen coming into Thursday at Los Allan. This is an Honor Code Philly for Mike Stinson sentimental that was an expensive purchase and didn't run great in the debut but looks to work pretty well since the that came mid mid Del Mar so Columbia Gold to for Andrew Learner who's had a very good year very quietly. this is a dial in Philly for Marta wild so you got a couple of good maiden a couple of good maiden races and then when it came to the stake we're looking at seven to five for paid informant for Baltics the into mischief Philly that they viewed really nicely at del Mar back mid mid meet you form chatter was scheduled Joel over the weekend but didn't feel Ambaum. Marino kept his nose to the grindstone and low and behold was able to get this race to go for Thursday so that's good it's named in honor under the nineteen ninety-three beaters juvenile fillies winner that was trained by Richard Mandella and quality response for Bob Baffert Equality Road Philly certainly a contender six to five on Russell who decks morning line coming off the win it was she won by a big margin didn't get a big buyer in that race at del Mar but still was very visually impressive in that race and then you get Pratt on the rail with that paid informant who was a daughter of intimate S. shipping. We hardly see any ot- spring of intimacy if he doesn't break out there so this is pretty ready to see an intimate also coliseum. It's GonNa add some spice to the car to Los Alameda on Thursday in that ninth race. This is highly regarded dirt. Tampa cold that came out del Mar last fall was so impressive for Bob Baffert and one just with authority you got ninety one by or but then be really was just got unraveled during the Santa Anita meet nowhere in the sham when he didn't break well well and then kind of a very disappointing third in the same sentence as well so he went on the shelf. He'll get his comeback. There is nine to five on the line with Joe Talamo writing so even late in the card is that goes is the ninth race on the Card Comeback Race for in for Coliseum Racist for the powerful Godolphin operation in a couple of this couple of days worth of action. This card is nice and I know the fields aren't big and you know everybody should understand and appreciate what Los Al is is doing it as these more or less as these place holding opportunities opportunities at a juncture is on the calendar in particularly the the grass horses they get a chance to to fresh in and come back at Santa Anita. I reference John Before you joined us to their the CHR be meeting which I think is tomorrow DOC allred they re petitioning to get that that preliminary schedule that really short changed slow sal for next year. We'll see what comes out of that. We will indeed we'll see what happens with the with that date situation with the B also looking came forward to the Pennsylvania Derby parks this weekend myself and you know I'm GonNa go with improbable in that race for the Baffler Barn. Baptists had terrific best in the in the Pennsylvania Derby in recent years. You've got Mike Smith writing. I liked the way improbable gut back it winning form with the blinkers for the shared belief leap Adele Mar.. I'm Mike Smith he's approaching Jerry Bailey's grade one stakes record in the United States and candidate. He's got two hundred thirteen and he's only three away from Jerry Bailey's record to sixteen so Mike Smith on the brink of a of a record into I I'm in a goal with improbable that if improbable wins that'll get Bailey even a little bit closer to that Jerry Bailey record absolutely I'm glad you mentioned that to John. I appreciate it enjoy the the week and indeed the three year old seen we'll we'll certainly get either more confusing or more more in focus after Saturday Pennsylvania Berbie and the Phillies to Goran coming back with a chance the really put a put a exclamation on on her credentials toward order. The philly championship is well present happy anniversary wagon to you and Tina the fact that

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Lovers and Liars

Bag of Lies

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Lovers and Liars

"Take and three ready. Hello beautiful. Liars has its melita answering now and we're bag of lies where the podcast that explores identity and community through the lens of the harmless white lies that we tell keyword harmless harmless not these crazy lies at break-up whole family's not those nothing nefarious here nothing nefarious various which is a great word so use that one again shutout in a variant phenomenal well today are non on nefarious topic is lovers and liars and we have the best guess in the world to discuss this topic with we have jack sloman when the queen the legend the god jack is a fulltime strategist and part-time activists. They're known for their hot girl pivots which we don't know what that means so they're gonna have explain to us. Jack was born millennial but identifies gen z. and quotes euphoria as their biggest inspiration. They are non binary and use he they she pronounced and as you were introducing jack he was making all these poses and i loved every moment of it also shut up to you being gen z. Plex so jack toes about yourself so i think the biggest thing again as we listed is the fact that i am identify as gen z. I love my phone. I love instagram and i also am the master the hukou pivot so you're wondering what that means essentially it means that there was a time in my life where i used to get known the quirky funny friend and i was just over like i was. I'm done with this. I don't want to be quirky anymore. I don't wanna be funny. I want to be hot so i made this very very intentional. Move in my life to just be incredibly haw is really really into understanding. How makeup works kind of my body and like clothes fit on me but i wasn't really technically dressing for me. At the time i was kind of dressing for like the boys who had had crushes on and incredibly pivoted into being a hot girl and in my entire thing was being like kind of like this hot narcissist and yeah this is definitely something i've had to work worked with my therapist and we're still going but i like continuously reinvented myself like i've like gone blonde now. I have got gray hair right now. I'm doing like a hoe spooky luke girl pivot where i'm currently so you're madonna madonna in many ways. Honestly you are jax sat out to you. It's working you gotta. Teach me me some things so let's move on to our live the week though serena wouldn't you lie about this week <hes> so i was involved in a conversation station with a colleague and we were talking about portland and i lied and said that i had been to portland and then proceeded for the next five minutes to discuss the the differences and similarities between san francisco and portland as though i had been there i feel like i present as like somebody who's like really well traveled and i've lived in all these places aces and so whenever people co <hes> sort of bring up a city or a place that like it seems very ambrym that i've been there occasionally. I do kind kind of lie and say that i've been there anyways especially when it's portland wait so you basically just lied about going to portland yeah and you've never been now. Can i say that i've done this too to yes. We could've portland is such a city that like i've heard somebody will talk about that. I feel like i can summarize it in several ways lots of bicycles and lots of rain no one whereas jacket lots of greenery vibe coffeeshops outdoorsy portland yeah nike's there yeah now i also have to admit that i also lie about loving portland goo goo gaga for what is it about portland met people who have just like fronton on it like oh yeah yeah yeah. Love portland been there so many times. Has anyone been to portland because at this point i'm starting to think we're all lying about it. Maybe that's the thing everyone's lying my portland. We all are just buying into like this. One ideally painting painting of it. Oh my god is the city of seattle and that's okay fine for portland melita. Would you lie about the speaker speaker. This is so silly so this past week i was in l._a. For work and i was staying at like a really nice hotel. Santa monica and i do this thing where i'm like really nice places where i put on my british accent. Let's hear it had no that's it. That's all you're getting. <hes> basically have a posh josh you're right. It's not it's porsche. Hysteria polish yet k. <hes> in so basically like all my interactions with the hotel staff is basically done in this posh gosh british accent and then i had to talk to a staff person in front of one of my coworkers and immediately just use my english exit and like they were looking at me like melita what is going on oh it happened. It happened because i was like i'm already too deep into this ruse. I can switch it up now. No i just acted like it didn't happen and just kept it moving behavior that actually if i want her here in the situation i would be i would be floored. I should like sharia british accent. That randomly comes out. We're already yard alba control. I know i think that's why me interest click because we both do this weird like british so gorman yeah but it's it's my go-to yeah when i want to be like i deserved to be in this space <hes> so yeah. That's my life a week. Does it make you feel better. Do you feel like like you fit in when you use that accent i it's not that i fit in. I just feel like it just like answer. People's questions like why is girl space <hes> just 'cause i present so so uniquely that whenever i enter like a space where like people are like i don't know very white and have lots of money and they look at me like <hes> what what's this girl doing here here with this malaysia name and these leak dreads. I don't know i just get self conscious in a way which i probably shouldn't make sense so jack. What did you lie about this week. I had a big one so this week. I was trying to kill some time before dinner and i was on the line for your mateo or a diet coke and i am a walking down mission street and there's this new bar that opened up turns out. This hasn't just opened up. It's kind of like neighborhood landmark. That's been around for like twenty years but recently he's been reclosed and renovated and there's all these older italian and french people hanging out inside and i was like oh my god. That's so cool like i'm gonna go get my diet coke. In there well turns out they don't have a diet coke only coke which inspires me to gloucestershire escalated double fisting a joke and the guasta chardonnay and and i'm sitting i'm trying to connect with this community and i'm talking to this older frenchwoman between the ages of sixty five seventy five and i told her my grandpa's ause french and the summer and france all the time and he grew up in niece which is a half y. My grandpa did spend about a two to three years in knees. I was recently in knees. I've never summer but i was recently. There and i did try and visit his house so i i feel like i do have this french connection but next thing i know i'm so deep in this lie that every single city she's listening often franson like oh my god absolutely adore love that blaze ooh my god and i just wanted to be part of this community so bad that i dug myself so deep into this lie of being french and now i know i'm going to have to go back there and and tell them i'm french and i'm going to tell everyone with french because i want to be part of them so back. Did you even like speaking a french accent anything absolutely not. I'd just like really committed to the fact that like oh yeah my grandpa's french but like my parents. Aren't you know so that's why i don't have the accent double down on my lai also also summer in france like that's like a big plex just to say that i summer in france i summit in france and let me tell you when you're swinging around your glass shard saying you somewhere in france you feel like you live the fantasy that you tell to the point where you're like you believe it actually happened rapid deal out here giving recommendations for little cafes in the one thousand nine hundred seventy all right so our next segment is in the bag. This is the part of the show where we share some lies in popular culture that are just like in our bag and we decide whether or not they are harmless or harmful so what's in our bag of lies today shrina well ladies <hes>. We have a bachelor in paradise. I live this has been kind of floating around on the interwebs. <hes> blake who's like a bachelor haughty from becca season and we've got kaylynn who's like also hot but i don't like occur so she's a bachelor thought he from colton season and <hes> they hooked up at stagecoach festival earlier this year and then lied about their involvement to the american public <hes> <hes> and then kaelin cana- dolittle switcheroo and lied about blake and made it seem like they were super serious when they were actually only ever friends with breath benefits so it's a lie on ally on ally on alah so how did this lighted exposed <hes> so it initially got exposed <unk> over the show where they were kind of like talking about it and then this week <hes> blake also released screen shots and receipts on his instagram showing that actually really kaylynn had agreed to a sort of more like friends with benefits loose situation. I'm gonna chalk this up to a miscommunication used to believe that jalen flying about situations. We've okay you know what in love in the time of music festivals were all in these moments where we are. We are hooking up with some guy. You're like oh yeah. I'm a girl. I'm also clean about lying about being an showgirl and you're like yeah you know like i'm totally fine with being friends benefits but then you're in the bedroom you get some bedroom talk. They're telling you about how they're going to take you on this trip to sausalito and the okay. Maybe i'm projecting my own experiences. I'm gonna offend micro ceylan and say that like she probably thought she was saying one thing but like actually believed another and thought she was gonna end up falling in love with this guy blake like i get it yeah. He's a cutie <hes>. I'm a chalk this up to just being messy because <hes> i did a little diving into this scenario because i don't really watch bachelor in paradise island lightweight was happening so apparently it's about a festival right you know friends with benefits situation and the next night hooked up with another contestant from bachelor in paradise so blake hailing kind of knew that you know this was kind of like we're just looking up because it's the festival of love kind of like what you're saying jack <hes> and then they were like in it together like keep it under wraps like on the show and then kayla did a three sixty and was like none of them now. You'd be texting me on the low talking about you like me you into this and then for him to like blow it up. You're like niagara nah. It just feels like they're being messy and they just need to keep hooking up and keep it on the hush like i don't need to know your business also feel like we've all been in situations. Where we've i've been in this situation where someone is like hooking up with one person but they say they like. You and you're like oh my gosh. I'm so india so i don't even feel like him. Hooking up with another girl on the show even like makes her argument less strong team kaylynn on this situation yeah down with blake. The other thing is it's reality tv. None of this is like real life. I feel like the seems to me like if you're instagram the end that's real that's true but i even though it's reality i do feel like we like expect for are there to be like a certain truth about the relationships that they have on the show transparency. Yeah yeah yeah so. I think that's part of the reason why people have kind of got caught up in that because i think it's partly like the like oh it's reality but like they're being fake about it. What's next in our bag the l._a. Dining dasher so so basically this guy was going around on all the dating apps reaching out to like women in their late thirties like mid forties and was like hey girl you. You look good. Let let me take this fancy dinner and basically he would take women to like these fancy restaurants sit down with them order hell of expensive meals and then he'd be like i'm going to the bathroom right back and just run out on them and lead them with the bill. He did this to like twenty two women throughout l._a. Where it became such that's a problem that police got involved and lake. My man was really out here line two women leading them on and then putting them with the bill. I think this behavior of literal sociopath absolutely not okay am i. I am upset for these women and then for myself. Why are you upset at yourself because this guy is hard for your listening. I think we're gonna have to post a photo on the grams. Y'all can realize how this guy. His name is paul gonzalez and you know he he is a haughty. He's got nice hair pretty eyebrows but that's how he got all the ladies. They probably were like oh. This charming handsome man wants to take me out on this expensive meal at this fancy restaurant. Oh my god and he really got them in their feelings. They've he's like karl. I'm so into you. He really was lying to them that there was something there and he was really into them and that he was going to spend the money the coin lane to treat them to this fancy dinner and then pulled the ruse. Yeah i mean i can kinda go to as on this one the fact that so many women is just like your while in bre but to who is this kind of like a rover so because i know friends of mine. I'm not gonna name them that go out with guys because it's like well. At least we'll get dinner out of it. I mean how is that different. <hes> i think that's different because well first of all usually when women do that they at least make it to the end of the date so like i know what your name is. You know what my name is. We had a discussion we talked. We went out you paid then. I laughed not just like halfway through being cool. I'm gonna go to the little boys room and and then never come back you're right because he did create all these fake profiles with the explicit intention of getting a woman to go with him to a fancy restaurant so he can ditch them with the bill. It's one thing if you're like going on a date and you expect to pay so you have that money in your account but it's another thing to like think you're going halfway think you're being treated to a meal and then end up with two hundred dollars. Yeah i also feel like when people are going on dates and just doing it for dinner up just the lie. They're telling them themselves. Also you know they're trying to cope with the fact out there date and it's hard for us. You're trying to act like you're definitely going to get something out of it for. This guy is not getting something out of it but also i'm gonna say i want to be number. Twenty three go on a date with paul. I'm down. The bill seem beggars. Beggars can't be choosers. I mean it's funny but it's also sad because some of these women were actually like traumatized. They were like someone like. I can't get back on the dating apps like i don't. I don't know if i can trust someone again like i'm so ashamed like it got to the point that some of the restaurants were posted pictures of this guy. A police officer like really got involved with the story because one randomly he writes romance novels which i love and to he felt really sorry for these women so he found a way to like find this man and charged him with extortion charges <hes> so that he could stop doing this to these poor women. I'm honestly so impressed with our legal. System covers us like we we don't cover a lot bore really willing to cover like people dining ditching so okay back to at least the legal system is good for something hall is out here while and so he stays in the bag you use the last item in our bag as princess diana lied about prince charles proposal to make him look cold so so in an interview that happened after they had gotten divorced she kind of stated that he had simply sent her flowers as a proposal when in fact he kind of like done a little a ludo bit more like he'd sent his his personal valet and like he'd had a handwritten note and there were also flowers but she kind of live emission forgot about all that stuff and just said it was flowers heartache she she wasn't lying. Everything you said was forgettable. Man did not propose to her. In person like i'm sorry a proposal supposed to be memorable late just because she omitted the fact that he you know not all these additional boring things in addition to like his boring ass proposal like i don't really feel like that's a lot also shout out to diana leg. They put her through a lot like. Let's not sully her name. He just has valet on call like it's not something special like he clearly has it available and like the handwritten note literally anyone can do that. I want a beachfront proposal. Aw i want the fantasy. Don't send your valet with some flowers like that's literally like the bad guy. I'm sure like princess di's every single day and i was like oh. Hey charles like what's good. You know yeah yeah. I'm sorry that was the lazy proposal yeah. Kinda was uh. This doesn't stay in the bag. This is an ally goodbye so jack. We're here to talk about dating reading today and i know you have a lot of experience with us and a lot of opinions on dating so kick us off with like your biggest dating lie hoof so so i think my biggest stating why is during the time of the initial hot girl pivot. I basically was really. I just i feel look. I was going through my feelings. I like had some insecurities and i was really trying to like dress in the way that was like appealing to guys not necessarily appealing to me and being like a non binary mary person i was essentially trying to present myself as like more masculine and if you see me if you know me i am like very very feminine like i definitely been describe myself as like high family non binary like i definitely more on that side but in the queer community like especially in the community of like gay men you generally generally masculinity is like put on a pedestal and as a more fem like non binary person i was definitely not on the top of that pedestal and so i started the presenting myself in this way where i feel like i was never dressing for me. I like look at my outfits during that time and i'm just like who am i kidding worthies. Irvy's looks like i was still like dressing like hit trendy but i was like definitely doing like hit trendy like altar boy. You know where i'm definitely not that like if anything i might have i'd like manic pixie dream girl fantasy you so are that -solutely it's like probably the biggest thing i lean into dating now but at the time i was so obsessed with by getting attention engine from guys and honestly i'll say it sad truth. Is that worked like. I was like for like three months. I definitely had like everyone was trying to date me like i was like hold the phone so it was bad like don't get me wrong but like i've never received much attention in my life but it didn't bring me. Joy is like stress me out. So how exactly did you do that. Would you get on the apps and thank you would like say certain things that can more masculine tony. You would just take pictures like dress more masculine. I think it was mostly the way i dressed and the way like my images because because i like it's really hard for me to hide my like fem self like it just like the way of communicating the way i talk. There's like no changing that like this gas. Voice is not gonna go anywhere but i would focus on building out these that made me look more masculine. I have this famous trap where i'm wearing like kind of blue swim shorts which i still haven't actually she pretty cute. I like this photo where i'm like standing and i'm like definitely like flex those ads but not in the way so insanely masculine like i'm i'm like what is this look like a kayak in the background. What am i doing. I don't know how to kayak like let's get lost at sea like no and i remember taking this photo and i remember catch was a singular peach emoji and i posted that and then like put on all my dating profiles all my like photos were just like i wore a little downs now. If y'all see me i would never wear that like i if anything i'd given all that stuff away and it was part of this kind of like masculine career i was doing but then i feel like it just didn't work because guy people were intimate but like i they were into the real me they were into his like weird like masculine performance. I was doing wing pets so interesting and like a lot of the research that we did on like online dating and like the things that people lie about it the most most of the lies are about like how are we present ourselves online. A lot of people lie about like a little bit like they understand like how much they weigh are like if they how how often they go to the gym or like what activities that that they're in because i feel like everyone lies to a certain degree to see if they can attack someone so you're like portraying yourself as more of a masculine person to see how many potential people you could attract yeah. It was more like a numbers game finding the right matt l. k. which now is actually interesting. There's these studies done. Were essentially if people your profiles osmar polarizing. You'll get more attention which i would consider my profile be very polarizing now. The and i even feel like almost like upped the polarization. We're not really alive alive but it's more like a curation where like i'm definitely like a hawk spooky girl in those pictures to me tell you i feel like we give a lot of people like a lot of leeway when it comes to online dating but i wonder like what type of lies are the ones that crossed boundaries from like oh just like omission to like now. I'm cat fishing you like. Have you ever like how you ever met that. Someone that she felt like was cat fishing. You're like almost catfish and variety for anybody who doesn't know what cat fishing is it just when you're just lying online and assuming a false identity eddie like a complete false identity false like my name is melissa is jamaica and i don't live in kelly. I live in texas first of all if anyone is out there using my photos to catfish people. Please let me know i will send you. Flowers like that is the most flattering thing anyone can ever do. That's hilarious but i have been in a situation -tuation where it was necessarily not catfish but i was. I did meet up with the guy who looked absolutely nothing like his photos like it was it was jarring in the sense right. I show up and he was look. It's almost the photos were taken like five years. That's what i love to excellent. Was it like a five year difference or was it like my man lied about his height his way. The color of his hair was completely different like it was basically all of those things where it's like haircut. I will give you like a pass on because i like my hair is so unpredictable half the time but like things things like if you were like it's not like just the way overall present yourself in it is not even slightly accurate like we're just wasting our time. I like. I want want to like get to know the real. You and ya'll obviously security. They were just meeting each other but don't show me photo from truly five years ago like i didn't even recognize him when he came into the bar. So did you stay for that date or did you call him out. I stayed for the date because i'm incredibly passive. I think other people on this planet would i've called him out in left. I what spent a good two and a half to three and a half hours with him. It was awful. He talked me the entire time. Why and the honestly i didn't even could don't don't even know if i could believe what he was saying. Because of like how i feel like already our relationship was like based off of lives. So what do you think are like the lies that are okay for people to get away with when it comes to dating ben so i think it's okay to lie. If you feel like it's gonna give a misrepresentation of yourself so for example. I ah this guy who i really cared about. I really i really really liked and we're talking. It was very early on we were talking about like when our last relationship was and i'm not someone who dates people a lot. You know like i've been on dates. I love experience in the field but not like a serial monogamist in any way shape or form and it. It just happened to be that the week before that i had like broken up with someone but that was like completely out of character like it's like is so random that i was actually like only dating dating someone like a a a week before and so i told him that my last relationship was six months before which is i know it's like that's real different than yeah but i'm going to defend this lie because it was. This didn't like this relationship didn't mean anything to me. You know it was like a three month. We'll relationship but it it was just like kind of a silly thing where if anything i was tricked into dating this guy and when i broke up with him it wasn't like a big deal to me. You know like an. I didn't want this guy to think that i was a serum documents because i really liked him at i wanted to like i could see things moving forward with us. Interesting like for me like lies that people can get away with is is like getting out of like meeting up with someone even though like i've been like texting with them on apps for a while or if i'm like running to meet with them. I'll be there in five minutes. Really it's like thirty minutes or an hour which is terrible. I'm sorry sorry to everybody who i did that too up done that to me. I have i'm sorry but like i think that there becomes like a a line that you can't cross after like a couple of dates where you have to stop like with the little lies in misrepresenting yourself like get some point. You have to get real. Yeah that's true. What do you think the cutoff point is like. At what point is it like no longer okay. Tell these little fibs on dates. I feel like it's like day eight. I feel like once you have an instagram story posts you can't y ou the second post their instrument them on their instagram story like you gotta be radical transparency honest for america's about pointing already like you like you've already kind of developed some like report like you need to actually be fair. Let's say a instagram's stories like honestly. I don't even know back to my instagram story. I i that's more than day. I don't know where while my social true love your on instagram so instagram stories like the lowest was common denominator of like sharing out your feed like oh my where series but see. I'm flexing okay all right well he. He knows strategy literally clearly. I love that h- what about ghosting do you think that councils like dating lie. Yes i think it will go sing as the definition of lying by omission what is hosting a ghosting is when you disappear just no trace jews. There's no response you send a texan in just like not going to respond to you. I am truly a prolific oester. I know these things. That's terrible should be ashamed of yourself. Stop goes into twenty nine thousand nine. Y'all stop doc goes in just respond to your man's tax. Let's be fair though the worst than ghosting is actually most. What's most thing on my gosh. She doesn't know what most thing is is that when you're texting personalized okay so most hosting is when you like do the most in terms of like acting like you really really really liked the person and then you just completely disappear so you most than you ghost yeah. Sometimes you bread crumb. Oh tell me more basically give half replies back in order to like eat them out and then like have more like natural ghost. Oh yeah yeah. I kind of call that like fading them out because like you know how like all of you go from like texting someone super super regularly to just like oh. I'll send you a text hair there and everywhere and then like yeah you just kind of fade them out a little bit. Why do you think people do that. Though is it because they just don't wanna tell the person like the truth ruth. Is it like an easier way of like just ending like the dating relationship or whatever type of transaction you guys are having or yeah i think people ghost ghost because they're afraid of having some form of conflict where they tell the person the truth that they don't like them but for me like i feel like you should never goes people like i always think you should give them. Closure just lie with what that closer grocer should be like. Don't be like oh. I don't wanna hang out with you because your personality sucks just be like oh god is past lovers. Come into my life. You know like just like give them closure but like you only need to hurt their feelings. Uh-huh jack said it here. Y'all don't ghost just lie heartache heartache jake. I mean i agree with you. I am a reformed goester. I definitely don't do that anymore. Kind of why did you in the past. <hes> i feel like i used to go host a lot just because like it seemed easier particularly with men to avoid the conflict because like sometimes and part of the reason why stop go to this guy and a month later he was still in his feelings about it and sent me this really really long rant that ended in like oh. I should have liked thrown. My coffee on your braids smells like borough. Is that a threat coffee on my brace yeah so like after that. I was like oh ghosting hurts people <hes> insane behavior. You think that that's like a little tenser. I don't know if that's like the pinpoint of like ghosting hurts. People like that person sounds absolutely psychotic excellent. Maybe what's not use that as the case for not ghosting by. I agree that ghosting does hurt yeah. No totally have you guys ever lied about like wanting to be exclusive or non exclusive with somebody. I have not lied necessarily sounds like a lion. I feel like i've been confused. Where i remember like fame like there's this time where this lover i had we had two different dates for like when we went exclusive and i just like and then i definitely like lied and was oh yeah. That's totally right. We definitely went exclusive them because when i thought we went exclusive was a month later than he thought i was dating other people. I usually only date one person at once so it didn't really matter but i just was like this is just gonna go away bigger conversation and clearly a bad listener plus. Maybe he was a bad communicator. The a little bit feel like that's a situation where i like necessarily but i think more confused about the language and terminology like all of a sudden even say yeah. You're my boyfriend and i was like away leaving leaving. No one told me about like when was like the words laid out for me. I'll give you a pass on that because if he was a back communicating katie you're a bad listener. It wasn't gonna work anyway this. This happened twice. Oh that's so jack what's been your favorite lie to tell on a day. Eh what have been some juicy juicy lies told off so ally malone the talent and date is i love the people i love to read books. I've even reading the same book since straight up like twenty sixteen the and there's also when we rise it's a great book. I really recommend everyone reading it for years to read the job doc but highly recommend. It's a great book activism and smile the and i get into these situations where i just like. I think i want to be type ago. Who is again that like manic pixie dream girl who loves to read kind of bookish and i'm cultured. I'm educated and next thing. I know i'm it's so deep in this lie where i'm referencing books. I started eight years ago. This book i finished last week to make me sound the culture and educated and i got to the point where i was seriously dating a person and he was introducing me to family and he started introduced me. It's like oh yeah you know jack like he just got me like really into reading and i was like me like croom. Wa like this. This gal got you into reading truly have not picked up a book once and then the next thing i know like these guys and dating are like giving me books as presents and now never do this whole performance about it. Oh god live and i can't stop in general why outside of like lies of presentation. Do you feel like people lie in order to get love. I i feel like this thing. We're like we want to be someone else. You know like we have this like fantasy of like who like who are relationship is supposed to be with and whether it's supposed to look like so we're even like willing to lie to ourselves about like what we want or like who we actually are in order to meet this goal that we've set but it's like in reality like if you don't love yourself how how you gonna let anyone else like preaching in the words. We love revolve. We stand with paul yeah yeah well. Thanks jack has been wonderful talking to you now. We have a little game free. Call who live in this game. We play where i guess where you have to guess the lies that i'm about to tell in who said either me or serena and kicking off so are two lies are one lied about bumping into shaquille o'neal at a club in miami but the story was actually a friends to <hes> told people that she was related to serena arena williams but in that serena was her aunt so obvious so incredibly obvious and melita belika obviously wide about like knowing shaquille o'neal answering obviously lied about being connected to serena williams because here's my here's erasing purely because monique overhear she loves like a weird flax and like i could just see her flexing about like knowing shaquille o'neal versus history now she would lie about like knowing being released williams but for like no good reason just like there's no reason to bring up like i could just see you saying and everyone like okay like i can't disprove you on that but like you weren't trying to flex you. Were just like saying. I feel personally called out. You didn't have to do any like jack and i have a reason. No i don't have a reason. I thought i had a reason. I don't have a reason <hes> all right yeah well. Thank you so much for coming in. We absolutely adore you. Thank you for teaching us about hot girl pivots and hot girls summers sort of a thank you for having me i love talking about my cell as we all do and i think this has been a really really interesting episode about kind of dating and lies and like i feel l. lake i. I have a better understanding a little bit of like why people lie on dates. I think a lot of it does kind of stem from you know like self preservation asian to a certain degree and then the way that you represent yourself but actually like what you said earlier about the liza. We tell ourselves kind of feels like the most poignant thing that maybe it's. It's a little more aspirational like that's why we lie on dates yet so we want to be those people and we want to attract those type of people. <hes> little white lies for love. You are listening adding to this and think i'm an absolute sociopath. Maybe i am but i am single <music> so again please. You're breathing slide into those the <music> dams that you can sign into my instagram at jack's lost men and if you want slide into my twitter d._m._z. sas to the jack in does occur kill you that those handles aren't the same absolutely makes me wanna die inside and it's because i need to align on a personal brand for myself but i just can't find something that represents me like it's like i wanna be quirky but i also wanna be professional struggle the struggle our twitter handle is at bag of lies and and our instagram handle is at bag of lay's underscore podcasts. You guys can definitely slide into r._d._m.'s with only good stuff about the lies. You told nothing else. Thank you and do our polls holes. People shout you out is true is your although we did a poll <hes> this week and according to our poll results. We're so we asked the question. Have you ever lied on a date and forty two percent of people that responded to our poll said yes and fifty eight percents said no fifty eight percent are liar. That's exactly what i was gary. Stack of liars stop lying keke lying ted. This is back applies. We love you guys. We'll see you later. Bag of lies is recorded at k. G._p._c. radio with the generous support producer goddess flight time we love you and our executive producer barring bob marino bob cohen bob ubi our theme music is produced by my girl madly league and all opinions foolish comments expressed here are by no means a reflection of our employers friends family or upbringing. We're doing our best. Buy guys i e.

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Under The Milky Way

Fame is a Bitch

35:35 min | 9 months ago

Under The Milky Way

"From workhouse connect in a J Benza? Vein he likes to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex keeps is. The Guy put the cock and the peacock network. Okay. Bitch. Hey everybody AJ Benzi here with the original fame as a bitch, the old freebie coming out twice a week. I got A. Good mind to throw in a couple of extra free shows a month maybe make it. We go eight now and make it nine or ten. I just want to expand the audience and. Unless you're out there with a bunch more free content. Tends not to find you because you know it just not. You play into the ban, your plan to your home, your your patriots it patron. So I might throw a couple more in the. Summer winds down. Got Some ideas. The end of summer, it's always a great time to grab some tabloids I if you're finding it easier to get tabloids now that this like newsstands aren't open his march and. Yeah. They're in the supermarket of course, that's always the place to grab him on the way to the cashier But just kind of long for the days when I first moved out to La. It would nice newsstands everywhere one of the joys of. When I first got out here was thought how am I going to get the daily? News New York Post I know I can get him but. You find newsstands and I had one really close to my place in Hollywood. So time I would go every morning to get my post news felt like I was still connected to New York, and while I'm are going to start grabbing the tabloids because obviously I'm always interested in that junk. It's in my blood but for some reason, the summer is more summer. You you. You have a magazine, your hands more often now that phones are part of our lives and forget part they rule our lives now and I'm not I'm not even mad about that because there's so much. There's so much of an advantage doing what I do and having a phone literally in my hand all day long. Shall Not bitching about it but you know I do miss the Romance. So God it's a weird word i. just missed the old manor was which we bought things. We Wanna read things. He WanNA fill our brains with I. Love Scanning. A newsstand for the magazines or newspapers you want. Plus Ya, you get a little crazy and you start finding some that are from different countries that you can go. That's fucking cool out. What are they saying? London. Germany this one's written in English, but it's German I want to read this. It's just great. Now they're gone even Barnes and noble bookstores who even goes to bookstores anymore with fucking Amazon Jeff bezos incidentally if any of you want my book and plenty of you bought seventy, four, hundred sunny even my first book same as Bitch. Do. Not go through Amazon coming not give this motherfucker more money please. Give an idea how many extra billions Bazo. Made during this pandemic. I'M GONNA make up a figure and be wrong. I'm. GonNa say thirty billion dollars in the last four or five months during this pandemic where most of us lost work lost places to live. I'll some people I. You know I can't afford ten bucks a month to do the podcast. Sorry Aj and that doesn't make me angry I. Get it man you gotta cut corners. You've got to cut fucking corners. So. If you want seventy four and sunny or if you want fame bitch, go through me. Go through me, I'll take care of them the fucking postage, and then the mailing fee all at I'll take care of it but do not. Resist the urge to go do the two or three step click with Amazon and make Jeff Bezos more fucking money. I didn't make thirty billion, the last four, five months a close, probably a billion. But I could use you know thirty bucks here and there it's fun. It's nice makes me feel good. It makes me feel like I didn't waste my time writing those books not that I feel that way I love those books but. So, if you want the book. Reach out to me on email or fucking. My emails Pope Benza at g mail or do the typical. Relay, J. Ben's at Instagram or Facebook, you can find me and I'd love to get you to book assign a copy I. Even have some really cool. You know I got. A Guy who listed his show I feel bad. I. Don't even know his first name, but he runs a PODCAST. Co Fascination Street which reminds me are still gotta pay him fuck this poor guy. He made up those things you put on the back of your phone so you can stand him up. While you're doing something you know there's little popper things. So he made a hundred of them that say famous a bitch, the logo of the show I. Love It. Salt throw some of those in the envelopes. You get a nice books for some foam poppers whatever you call them and we're all happy and Fuck Jeff bezos. But like I was saying the end of the summer, it's always a great time to grab some tabloids. You make yourself a nice trait. You read about how fucking crazy Hollywood celebrities are. Makes you feel saying. There's something about the last few weeks this summer that makes it all kind of permissible. And you know they do it to celebrities do it too when you're out there and you're running around, you could see them looking looking at tabloids. FILE IS LOVED GETTING A kick out of watching them read the stuff that I wrote or the tabloids I write for or even the ones I. don't I like that because they act like they're above at all, how do you handle the rumors and gossip in the Tub all what you just can't read those rags you just have to walk right by and it's all lies. The, while you're in it. They're all full of Shit. When I was dating Kara we Couple of summers she had a summer share house in East Hampton. And the weekends were always fine. A bunch of people down there. What makes a nice dinner? Arrogant the pool in it you swim at night it was fun. It was one particular weekend where her sister. Assistant came down with her husband and we were so fucking crazy that tranmere to husband Scott were fucking insane. Somewhere cars got video of me and Scott Skinny dip in and doing the craziest shit while making that polars nighttime but still so He'd be out there in the Hamptons. And you know you always fun to grab a bunch of magazines your big fucking a blender of Margaritas sit by the pool and you read the tabloids and of course, you talk shit as you portion, you gotta grab the essentials back. Then you had to have a big the big sick September Vogue magazine always the thickest magazine of the year I'm sure that's all changed. Now I haven't picked up a vogue and forever, but back then. I was fucking obsessed with models and Superman I love knowing who was in the magazine who got this page who's doing this campaign now I couldn't first of all now it's probably Miley. Cyrus and Arianna Grandba-? Cardi B.. Getting campaigns I. don't even know if they're if models get that work anymore it's so fucking said. She had a vogue magazine that you gotta get Vanity Fair for some reason Vanity Fair reads better in the summer it just does. And I love when you're bringing the Vanity Fair home and you know I, it's a reminder because valley very few of us read every article in a week or two. Many of us don't even finish the vanity fair before the next one comes out because there's a big sick twenty thousand word articles or more. Real, good good writing, Marie Brenner. what's his name seal mark seal good. Some great writers. And I love it when you buy the magazine in September and then like Christmas time or even like January, you find it in the bathroom in the magazine. Rack shake it, and sand comes out. Oh, my God this was the fucking magazine I was at speech this day I. Love that Kinda. Shit. Magazines take you back. You can remember what they look like why the stain what was the drink you had that you left on the cover sustain of Wa. You look at the back page to proust Proust's a questionnaire. You don't get that would stuff to read off your fucking phone astrologist gone. But I love that everything I do is based on nostalgia and thinking back in remembering and anyhow. See you get those two big thanks, basic magazines and You know. Not much talking. Talking going back and forth while you read knows in the house. But then when the you get the enquirer and star and US weekly and the examiner and all these crazy fucked people anything. Not People people sucks. You get these magazines and then you know they get passed around through friends and family. And that's when you go about trying to solve all the problems. These celebrities face. You think you have a handle on their lives you know what I mean. It's always interesting to hear everybody's perspective. Once everyone is read all the magazines as the weekend has ended. The. Start by the pool that's where the that's they begin their journey then that end up scattered around the kitchen or dining room table. then. They end up in the bedrooms of. If it all goes while they end up in the bathrooms and finally in the trash. Or. Maybe outside again, it's it's a wonderful thing magazine just go and go and go but everybody's got opinions. You're reading next to somebody. And someone will just go. I don't I don't think John Travolta's gay I just don't and you go. Are you kidding me my friend's friend is a masseuse and he told me the whole story. He's he's Gay Oh trust me I don't listen he is. then. Someone else about what so the marriage is fake Tan. It's an arrangement it's not a real marriage. Will they sleep in separate beds beds? Now it's two separate wings in those these houses in beverly. Hills. They got wings you forget it plus John's got airplanes he can split when every wants to split and that's true. What about Tom Cruise what about what about him? He's gotta be straight straight. What are you crazy what you think he's a real top gun to come on both gay just that Kinda Shit. Wasn't he was share for a minute. Yeah. Share was also with David Geffen what your next fucking brainstorm. Shit like that goes on everywhere in the country maybe that everywhere. But not many houses can give you the straight dope back. On a lot of these people you know I can. But. Yeah. Late Summer Indian summers when these tabloids category as wait a minute, can we still say Indian summer? That's probably done right? That's GONNA cancel. Anyhow people enjoy the native American summer in a few weeks. But this week's US weekly has a cover story about how our favorite scientologist Tom Cruise. John Travolta and Kirstie Alley Are apparently trapped for life. Not necessarily being held hostage, but they're not exactly free either. Scientology is a lot like one of those things you put on your fingers were they Chinese handcuffs once they're on, it's tough to get them off. By the way can we still say, Chinese, handcuffs every time I make a new thought it's going to be canceled. Indian summers out Chinese handcuffs that's going to go soon too. So is the thing there have been some notable famous people who have successfully cut ties with scientology like Leah Remedy. Lisa Marie Presley's pretty much out even though her daughters in her mother's and she's kind of pulled herself out Jason Leigh, the director Paul Haggis back, two turntables and a microphone. But the big three. Tom John Kirsty. This still going strong man. Or are they I don't know on the surface they all appear to be pretty secure in their positions at the top of Scientology's wild celebrity pyramid. They don't seem to mind being under the thumb of Scientology's fighting sociopath David miscarriage. But I always wonder how they can just ignore. All the bad publicity scientology gets Halley. They just let that shit off them. Because these are people who? If you say something about them and the press, they can't wait to get back at you get their publicist it. You know they go to all lengths to erase that. Bad Publicity but. What it's about scientology pigs let it roll off. I don't know how they can do that. They have to have an opinion. On all the horrific stories and all the allegations like just look at David Miss Miscarriages wife. Shelly. Shelly never heard from again when she. One year she felt scientology might not be her fit anymore than whammo she's gone. And you know this woman. Was a close friend of theirs John. Tom Kirsty. Very close you know. You could see how closely a remedy was to her Leah Remedy. Cried on her an show couple years back when she was tearing holes in the church. And yet these three Tom John Kirsty nothing. They got nothing to say they have no motion about a woman is missing not a dog. Not a fucking Cockatiel, a woman, a wife, a great friend of theirs whose husband rules the church they unbelievable. But you know no matter how bad these things get These two will not say word one of these three Adam Corolla. Had, Kirstie. Alley on the other day probably two weeks ago. Fun into view She's got some great stories. She's an old gal. She's a guide girl I liked. Kirsty. Because when you start talking you forget about this side of her. Not much. I don't think Adam went into the scientology thing although I gotta be honest I think I tuned into the interview when it was like five minutes also maybe he did that up at the top I don't know. Usually, he's a very thorough interview gets everything out of his guests maybe I, don't know. The thing about Christianity though I think people don't pressure her because she was so hot on. Cheers she was one of the most sexy sexist Shuki was Nancy? Pelosi sexy. She was one of the most beautiful sexy women. When she was on cheers man my God. In from shelley long you know Diane with the Blonde Hair Cynthia p white bread and then along comes rebecca, how would the dark hair and the full body Oh my God Suck sellers such a great time and Sitcom History Man, anybody in my age group. It's hard to hold something against her if you get the chance to sit down and talk to it because she's Rebecca how? I think it's more like she has a stock answer about scientology and that's what we all have to go with like she's never, GonNa Stray. They give you that typical. You know I don't know. But for me, it's very comforting for me. It helped me get through my this and I I'm just over that fucking answer but that's all they give you. But she really got behind David miscavige couple of years ago like like like through all of our weight behind him. Because I heard he basically relied on her to Hitman on. Social Media. Like. Lay Remedies. Shell. was taken off and she was blowing holes in the is bullshit lies miscavige went after her co host, the former scientologist Mike Render? Mike was big in the church for years, and he really knows a ton of Shit about David and Hall Shelly thing and but it was odd because suddenly on twitter kirstie alley starts to go after Mike Render. And I could tell she was kind of directed to do. So you could tell it was like she was put on a mission. 'cause there was like a, it was an incident around ten years ago in Florida Mike Renders and a parking lot making phone calls, and suddenly he's ambushed by some scientology attack pitches one of whom was his ex wife Kathy Bernardini. And she got up in his face and he was on the phone at the time. So you can hear the confrontation he was on the phone with a friend and she's an issues in his fucking face and they all this other girl Taryn something I forget her last name. They were giving him hell and apparently rent was like he was trying to get to his fiancee at the time. And Render Palley grabbed his ex wife and she says twisted her arm. Whatever the fuck and of course, they call the paramedics and it got really ugly. But. That's all they want. They want cops to calm paramedics follow report. So it becomes public record then they can go down later on and tell people is the kind of man who's tell poking holes at our church. This is the kind of man you WanNa believe a man who who hurts women that shit me I'll miscarriage made his fucking wife disappear. I think I think his wife with a wish he just twisted or fuck it on. You know I hate when people call the COPS I hate that ticky tack bullshit my arm hurts. GOPS. God don't call the fucking cops if you're the antagonised ladies or men don't be don't be pussies cell. Becomes public record, which is what they want. Then, eight years later, Kirstie alley brings it up on twitter as might render Leah Remedy are gearing up for the third season of the any show. You know but kissed the alley over shares on twitter now more than ever and she felt she had to say something about the rioting recently around America and the looting and all that you she felt she had to stick up for the black lives matter folks and all this Kinda Shit. And she of course invoked the great L. Ron. Hubbard and one of his theories that he ate down in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, nine. So she posted on twitter the Wiseman l Ron Hubbard wants said at best in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty nine, and it's as true today as it was then. and. She lists this thing he He said riots are not always caused by economic deprivation the bulk of Americans raw American. Riots were caused by injustice only the wealthy can afford justice. It may say there must be justice in the constitution, but it can only be obtained in upper courts. The little fellow doesn't have one hundred thousand dollars to fight the unjust actions of those in power. All right. L. Ron Hubbard said that. Gay also started a religion based on space alien. So there's that but you know kissed the alley must know what she's talking about because don't forget guys. She is in o t eight Oh. Yeah. That scientology talk for somebody pretty high up on their mound of. A Couple years ago. That was a big to do about what she attained in a magazine called. Free Wins. Free magazine is a glossy. That has all the churches latest news. Also. The name of their private cruise ship as well. And Kissed. He made the first ever trip on this ship free winds as it sailed around the Caribbean. This is where the wealthy shows go so that they can reach the ultimate step on the bridge to total freedom. An auditing level known as operating. Seton. Level eighths or ot eight. And lately, David Miscavige hasn't been happy that not enough people are signing up for the O. T. eight crews. So he started to advertise a lot of other seminars, chorus packages that the church members can purchase for a week or two on the ship. But what it's really known for is that. Experience which which culminates With a special graduation featuring the new operating theatres giving speech. Now, I didn't see Kirstie Alley speech, but I I I've. Seen someone else's back in the eighties on a tape and it's just fucking weird it's very wild look it up sometime if you can. These people that brands are just shot fucked up people I. Feel like we're seeing now with these people on the left, just believing in a cause that is so plainly fucked up. Wrong. I was told that inner speech Kirsty called herself a scientology freedom fighter, and that's a big reason why she fights David miscarriages battles and also doesn't get in the way of minor details like. I don't know where the fuck is your wife Dude. and Oh yeah by the way, it costs a typical scientologist five, hundred, thousand dollars. To two million dollars to get all the way up to the bridge and through ot eight, and that's just for course, fees and auditing prices. It's also for accommodations at scientology facilities and all the constant pressure fundraising. But. It's so worth it. You see because scientologists really want to get all the way to the away because that's when the superhuman powers is supposed to kick in. You know Kirstie. Alley should now be able to leave her body at will and travel anywhere. She wants to go as an invisible feet. -An. Experiences full perception. She should also have the powder affect matter only thinking about it as well as the benefits of total recall perfect vision and raised I q just to name a few of these abilities that scientologist achieve like Tom. Cruise. Oh, my God, he's sick fucking people with all that juice. You'd think she could maybe get her acting career back on track you know what I mean. Maybe take care of some small shit like dropped thirty pounds quit smoking something like that. None they can't do that, but they can do all the other bullshit. See. I'd like someone who sits down With Kirsty to actually ask her what it's like becoming a superhuman scientologist because now that she's completed that level, she's now perfect example of the product. Of Scientology sees exactly what everybody who joins hopes to achieve she represents everything that can be accomplished in the church. Ot Is the pinnacle of Scientology Perfection. I'm sure she'll do great things with that power. The first thing she should do since women fight for all women and we've been told that women believe all women and we must believe all women she should get off for fat ass and go find Shelly miscavige and settle once and for all what the fuck is going on. Wouldn't that be. Amazing. The whom I can. These fucking hypocrites, John Tom Cures the. They're well aware of the scrutiny and scan those around and they're not stupid. They're not don there just play it that way. They just choose to sit back and silence these little bitches do that because they're all scared of the little runt, David Miscavige, all this little shitty man has to do is snap his fingers and people get punished. With some of the punishments being carried out allegedly by Tom Cruise himself. Matching and waterboarded by Tom Cruise magic getting fucking electric electrode on your nipples by Tom Cruise. Because coal like it's a bad thing. But you can say, you know Tom Cruise put fucking five hundred volts electric through my nipple son I don't know. And they're all afraid of what's GonNa Happen if they? Flip. And David miscavige revenge mode, naturally, scientology denies all this. It's just complete. Bullshit never happens. We know it does. According to them everything is just all everything's Hunky Dory nobody's scared to talk out of turn nobody's being forced to cut off their families or or lose money or even. Stalk some former scientologist like Chrissy. Connell. bixler. bobbitt realities, the ones who I've spoken to finally got their. Come up in spy. Danny masterson being knocked down a few pegged those rape allegations canty. Turns out. You know. Leah Remedy said something pretty crazy the other day, but I believe her. She said the Tom Cruise, scientology's Jesus and he'll never leave. In fact, she thinks one day he'll try to recruit his daughter Surrey. I I'm not going to say it's not going to happen I. could see Tom Cruise doing that look he has the superpower if you can't do something like that with all that superpower, what can you do? So doing her thing, we know Tom Cruise's Jesus according to layer and she knows everything. That leaves John Travolta And a few years ago it was rumored that John was only as dedicated to scientology's he was because of his wife Kelly Preston she apparently was the super scientologists. Some say way more than him. But since she died back in July. My people tell me that John Travolta might be inching away from the church. A dead giveaway was in the way he profusely thanked Kelly's cancer doctors and medical staff in the statement he put out after she died. Because L. Ron Hubbard is against chemotherapy and radiation and a lot of other forms of medicine. That's why some people think John Kelly. Son Jett. died in their home. When he apparently they said I think they said epilepsy seizure he fell hit his head. He had a bad day but you get to the point where you go look if the kid was having a bad day why aren't you two fucking hospital? Now. So, there's been plenty of speculation. That John Travolta might be scared that. Any auditing sessions secrets might be used against him if he walks away. You think it's beneath David Mr to use John's pass to expose and punish him. No, it's not. Be Very interesting because. Kirstie Alley is best friends with John Travolta, and if she one of us, she'd never let a good friend get banged on like that. But she's not like one of us. She's a fucking Kook. And if I were John Travolta. I wouldn't expect her to help when stories and allegations about John's numerous gay love affairs and dalliances with that various masseuses pop up. On one hand some of you might think what could David miscavige that we don't already know about John I bet there's a shit ton. Okay. I'll tell you the truth I like John Travolta, lot. I've spoken to him through direct messages and twitter and. What can I say either he doesn't read or listen to what? I've said about him or he does and doesn't give a shit. He told me he was a fan of mysteries and scandals. He he mentioned he thought I did a great job in. Rocky. Balboa. which is like that goes to your head. And sometimes, it's so weird for me to do and say what I do especially when some of the people I pop off about apparently you're fine with me it's very weird. But even without that? Travolta is the only one I have sympathy for he's been closeted for. So long I I think his wife had a lot to do that I. really do I mean who was Kelly Preston without John Travolta. You can't tell me for movie. She was in that. You love you can't I know I know you can tell me too. But you. Just you could tell me about anybody in Hollywood. Basically she was one of Charlie Sheen's exit. That's about it. I swear to God I'm not I'm not. Really you're not going to sit here and tell me her acting blew you away now. She's very beautiful. Her claim to fame before John was she was Charlie Sheen's that's. Matter of fact. While the exit he shot. It's a whole different story. But I see her as living on the down low more than John. You know she wanted the perception of a traditional family and all the fame and fortune that marrying a megastar like John Travolta would give her she knew full. Well, he was gay. Built Chelsea knew he was ashamed. So she took advantage of all that church search of scientology had to offer in the form of brainwashing on maybe recording sessions to blackmail him making her feel like a big fucking deal because nobody else thought she was any of these special. John Travolta lost his son. He lost his wife he sat and he thinks he has to stay in the closet even though the world new along time ago that he's not straight. Guys wanted America's most endearing actors come on Vinnie. Bob Marino Tony. Minero Vincent Vega. It helps the Italian I don't mind saying but on top PAT, nobody would give a shit from a negative standpoint that he would be gay. Don't. CARE. This world right now with praise John Travolta for embracing his real self and you know, I'm right. I remember something I know happened I, know this happened some years back John was thinking of leaving scientology not that long ago. And always heard he got his friend Carrie Fisher to publicly out as gay because he wanted to kind of test the waters to see how people would react, and literally as as that happened, there was that drama with the masseuse threatening to sue him for sexual harassment and. The lawsuit magically went away as soon as he reinforced his devotion to his wife and two scientology. Listen he could come out as bisexual and scientology wouldn't have anything on them because nobody cares about that anymore. But I just wish he'd walk away for his for his daughter's sake. So, there might be some lawsuits to win or or some payouts to happen if he ever chooses to come out but. I'm sure he'll be happier in the long run. I didn't like anybody can ask Kelly how she feels about his sexuality. But. I think if he doesn't do it at least the next five years or so then what's the point of doing it the guile being his seventies believe it or not? For years, he'll be seventy years old. And then I say, why rock the boat How much more time we guarantee after seventy Be Thank by. tippy top my cream of the crop. It's been a while since I. Thank these wonderful people, Paul Bunch Mark Weiner Jesse Nick Kosta Album Horse Michael Lip tat a net the Holy Cross came Casto. Sherry. Finnity. Gail. Edwards Margie. Brigham Tatas Scalps Sarah Walker Scott. Dylan Pauli whittaker Marcello Martinez Kelly Montebello Alley Chichi Tran. 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Draft Chat For Dollars

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

1:34:37 hr | 1 year ago

Draft Chat For Dollars

"I welcome everybody. I want to welcome. Thank you all so far Not only your contributions but Jimmer say the owner of the Indianapolis Colts donated twenty five thousand dollars to our cause which I'm glad Peter. Schrager is wearing the quick Nelson Jersey areas. Look so you know we think we'd fake Jimmer say and obviously we thank all of you for contributing to fight some very very important artists support some very very important cope in nineteen causes in the United States. So we're going to start right away. I was GonNa Start by asking Peter and Chris US some questions but since everybody is on in everybody is hungry. It's hard to us. We're going to start right now K. So why don't we go first to cliff gross cliff grocer you there and If Don is I'm sorry. Mad is glowing to get you up and ask your question. I am thank you very much. I WanNa appreciate you guys doing this. I'm big fan of all you guys. Thank you again A big Jet Fan unfortunately obviously We need an offensive ACCO. Can you guys the top four tackles and your opinions of each second part? Do you think the jets may have to move up to maybe nine or ten yet? One of the top full war and whether it be worth it Chris Simms go ahead thanks. Thanks clip okay. All right good question. I'm with you. I think in my mock draft up and a half the jets take an offensive tackle to all right so you know. If I had a Wrangham I would go. Jack Willis from Alabama MCI back. Then would be my second one from Louisville Thomas Andrew Thomas from Georgia would be number three and then I would probably go Tristan worth from Iowa as number four. Now the interesting thing I would say to just in that conversation is the worst. He scares me a little attack. I won't lie. Needs a little slow footage to where? I'm not so sure. If you need to tackle I would take him if he was the only one left on the board and the MCI Becton you know. Red Flag. The drug tested the combine might allow him to slip into your grass. There at number eleven. Which could be very interesting. That happens I expect the jets to take it Peter Schrager. It's actually interesting so I did. The preseason games for the jets last year. I had a chance firsthand to see. Just how bad that offensive line was. And I knew in August it was gonna be a long season for whoever is at quarterback. Here's how I look at those four though becton coming out of the combine. I think everyone has a number one and now they're stories coming out. You saw the combine test stuff but also boomer bust pretend potential here three hundred and seventy pounds and always fast the nimble but like. This is Joe. Douglas I pick as general manager the C. Want boom or bust or to see what he knows is going to be a guy who can play for ten years. So I look at a guy like Andrew. Thomas who Chris mentioned and a lot of people are saying he's the cleanest of all these prospects. So here's all odor at I. Also judge Rick Wills One. I've got Andrew Thomas as to. I've got Tristan works as three and I've got becton as my fourth. I could see becton falling in this draft. Just because of all the question marks. What are you getting your getting Trent Brown or are you getting some guy who? You're not even sure it's going to be on the field in two years time Okay let's go to the next question we now have. Koby Meyer from Chicago Kobe. Come on you gotTA steelers question. Yeah so I'll I appreciate of the content. You guys do. It really keeps me Mayes Zoom online school. Because I'm senior in high school but my question is do you think the steelers could take. Jalen hurts while grooming him as a quarterback just put him in like an offensive weapon at sometimes like with the same stewart tasting now because it kind of lacks some offense firepower last year especially like at running back with connor her. Okay so I'll take that one first of all Jalen hurts. Would be the perfect quarterback for the steelers to draft in my opinion not only because he would be a good relief pitcher rothlisburger this year but it gives the steelers an opportunity to look at him and say is he the future. Everybody saw this past year. That when Rothlisberger got hurt they got a little bit of magic from Doc. Hodges but they need an answer at quarterback. If I were them either he'd be a great pick for them in the second round it. Jalen hurts is going to get drafted in the second round. I think probably no later than fifty five by Baltimore. That's my gut feeling and it's because so many teams view him as tastes. Inhale and maybe a little bit more. Thank you okay. You're welcome Bob Marino. You are next Bob Marino. Erie comes hi there. How are you okay? Bob? Thanks for joining us. What do you got okay? I've got a hall of fame question and Peter. I'm thinking this one's for you. Yup I grew up in Pittsburgh having lived there for years but I'm always a fan Grew up in the days of Andy Russell before that actually but question for you is from from a hall of fame perspective. Has He gotten any consideration? He's his stats. Are very similar to Jack Ham and Jack and Lambert from a Pro. Buddy spent most of his career with a very bad team. Yeah I think I'll tell you what I think Bob and thanks for the question. Thanks for joining us. Andy Russell's to me. You're absolutely right Andy Russell head. He played Maybe five years later and he played in the heart of the steelers dynasty years. I think he'd be getting very strong consideration for the hall of fame but to me. He suffers the fate. As Tommy Notice suffers a lot of times when you're a very good player on a mediocre team. You don't get the consideration for the hall of fame. It's one of the unfortunate things that plus the fact Andy. Russell I'd WanNa say suffers but I think generally the people might peers hall of fame committee. I think like if I were looking at it I think the next guy if the steelers ever get any more in people will how will if they do from that era if they get another one in the next one I believe is probably Elsie Green and so I mean. It's just one of those things that I think probably. Unfortunately that had Andy Russell is probably GONNA go. Down is being in the hall very good. I appreciate your question. Andy Warren. Come on board Andy Warrant going on guys again. Thanks so much for doing. This is obviously an amazing. 'cause eagles question probably don't need to refresh anybody about the need at wide receiver. So if you're Halley Roseman at twenty one and assuming those top four which obviously Judy Rugs Jefferson. Lamb are all gone. Who Do you think? Is Somebody outside of that initial tear? That has a chance to come out of this draft being just as good if not better that they could target either twenty one or in the train down scenario Chris Simms. Go ahead okay. There's a lot I mean. There really is the good thing. Is the receiver. You don't want or don't value as far as that first round. Pick at pick number twenty one if he's not their man. There's still a lot of good to be had down the line whether that's even in the second round or trading up a little bit in the second round to get to a spot to where you feel comfortable but here's throw out. There you know Brandon Brandon from Arizona. State I think he's very much on the fringe of that end of the first round. Top of the second round. Peter I had one of the Great Calls Today on on wide receivers drap with Michael Pittman junior from USC. I think he's in that conversation. Along with t higgins and Denzel from Baylor. I think any of those guys really. I wouldn't be shocked at any. Any of them went somewhere between twenty five and forty five really but those are robbing the next names on the list. And don't get me wrong. There's some other ones after that. There is still pretty damn good too but those are probably the next one for me on the list. You don't my gut feeling on this one and I've got a little bit of knowledge on this is that I don't see the eagles trading for receiver and I don't think it would be that painful for them if they took. Murray the linebacker from Oklahoma. Here to wait 'til fifty three. We'll see Let's go to John K next John. Ura thanks Peter. I really appreciate you guys doing this. And with all the stress going on you know these times. It's just great to talk sports for once for an hour and and I know there's a limited amount and I will but I'm one of the few What do you think their greatest need going into the draft is do you think it's a linebacker replace? Littleton. Do you think it's Oh line running back now that they got rid of their running back when you guys think. Peter Schrager is an absolute expert on the rams. Peter go ahead. I know that all right so do talk with McVeigh quite a bit and I know that they wanNA fill a lot of nature. They were excited about that. Brandin cooks trade because they really valued the second round pick so now you have two second round picks I would think they would probably look to build up that offensive line a little bit at one of those picks and I wouldn't rule out a running back at look. This is a weird running backdraft. Where there isn't that Saquon Barkley Slam Dunk? Everyone likes the Andrea Swift. But I know teams that like Clyde Edwards layer at lsu just as much as the Andrea Swift. I know one team that has its eyes on. Jk Dobbins out of Ohio State. I think at the second round selections and I don't have an offhand where the rams are selecting I wouldn't be shocked if they paired one of those types of guys with Daryl Henderson if the running backs are falling and not being drafted it's it's one of those positions where it almost feels like. It's a luxury position now in the draft but for the rams that's how their offense runs they need running back. I think you can look running back with at least one of the second round picks Crawford King. You're all guys. How are you great So I'm a really big giant And then being number four they have You know a lot of things they could do and I would love to take Isaiah Simmons but I feel like they're going to go with offensive tackle If they did go with Isaiah Simmons who would be left that their second round pick at offensive tackle switch Chris. Why don't you take now? Okay I think Josh Jones might be a guy. The kid from Houston is in that conversation. Okay as far as guys that are left over from that first round conversation type. Tackle all right Another name the jumps out to me that I think is up there in. This is a Austin Jackson from USC. All right he's another guy. I don't expect them to go in the first round. He donated bone marrow last year to his his sister. Okay but he's got all the physical traits ability in size to be people say that his body was deeply affected by what went on with the bone marrow transplant so that would be more name. Robert Hunt for movies in Lafayette. If I was in the throw another name out there I think he's a guy that has the possibility to the top forty five fifty picks of the draft and the kids from Boise. I'm blanking on his name. Is Mick Right? I think those of the next group up of offense tackles on the list there but I just say this to you. I'm a giants fan too. I like Saquon. I like annual Jones. Let's just take the freaking or and move on with life. We need it badly. Take the freaking foreign move on with life. Can we put that on a t-shirt okay? Jonathan Hurl you're up. Jonathan go ahead. Thank you so much food innocent Ashley Grad so my question about culminate pay while you were talking about the volume second round or receive is being drafted recently as jets fan. I quite liked what might mcalinden. Did in the two thousand seventeen draft where he took Jamal Adam. Six August may another day at thirty nine wondering if you see any value in teams for example Miami with a lot of pigs. Rolling up on REC- possibly parents judy with a pitman's and things like that I mean. Were you Jonathan? Where are you from? Where are you worried joining us from Leicester England? That's great. It's late at night. Thank someone Peter Schrager. Let's get some jets talk. Yeah I think. The jets are fascinating similar to the giants where? It's one of these things where I'm watching this last dance with with Michael Jordan and I watched a Portland Trailblazers with the second overall. Pick draft. Sam Mbui because they already had their guard and they drafted a position as opposed to just picking Michael Jordan. The jets and giants similar here. The jets at eleven. Everyone says Joe. Douglas wants an offensive tackle. And he does and they're going to draft offensive tackle no matter what but Jerry. Judy and CD LAMB could be game changing players. And sometimes you gotta rip it up and take the best player available however with a draft as deep as this. I think the move is take the tackle and you're right. We'll go back to those second tier guys. The PITMAN's the UK's if he slips I liked Guy Lavish casino out of Colorado. Who's dealt with a lot of injuries but when healthy could really be a game changer and tough as nails and really fits what the jets are looking for as far as a tough number one wide receiver to go with Perriman and crowder. I think this is such a rich draft of wide receivers and both Chris and Peter Kinetico this there about thirty guys who might go in the top one hundred twenty one hundred thirty and you could say okay. Okay okay because at the combine their guys like Chase Klay pull out of Notre Dame guys all showed up the jets can get one of those guys and still get one of those elite offensive tackles. I think that would be the best pairing as instead of reaching and then settling for tackling Elat around Chris Europe where you from Chris a from Buffalo but currently living in college station Texas. Thanks Gary Go ahead my questions concerning the quarterback class of twenty twenty one. If that's having an affect on teams like Jacksonville Miami. Tons of weaknesses but have multiple. I picks this year and next year. If they don't love Herber or two or love is a factor in where they think they have ammo next year to go after. Trevor Lawrence adjusted fields. I think that's a really really interesting question. I'll take that one. My feeling. Is that Stephen? Ross basically Has for the last. Three years has pointed to a time where they could get their franchise quarterback and so this year. There were those inside. The Miami Organization is said whatever we have to pay to Cincinnati to get up to number one do it. We need Joe Borough but the fact is if you have Joe Borough. I don't think Cincinnati unless you offered a seven ones or I'm kidding I don't think Cincinnati is trading the pick okay so next year. Let's say I mean. The dolphins are going to be pretty good. They're going to win. Six seven eight games I would say at least. They were five and four after Halloween this year in their significantly improve this year and they don't have to play Tom. Brady twice anymore so I I mean you're not going to be anywhere in my opinion not going to be anywhere near the first pick in the draft so now it doesn't matter how many ones you got next year and they have to one's next year in two twos when I think my point overall is that you know. Don't assume that because you're rich in the draft next year that you're going to be able to trade up and get whatever quarterback you want because most teams if you've got the first pick in the draft and you've got a quarterback need you're almost certainly not gonNA trade. So if I were them I would do the best I could this year. I think it's probably just in Herbert but it might be too. I just don't know I would just do that. And I would move on and I think that's probably what they're gonNA do Dan to Europe up guys just want to echo what everybody else to say. Thank you guys doing this. Really cool for all of us and happy to help fund. My question is regarding draft trading. Do you guys for see any team out. Side the top ten jumping into the top ten. And who would they be looking for? Have heard Atlanta's name a lot. But who do you think there'd be looking for it that Peter Schrager go I find Atlanta to be fascinating another team that I think could be really interesting if they just want to move up. A couple of spots to get that position is now Tampa Bay if if they religious added GRONK which it sounds like they did and they've got that fourteenth pick and three of the top tax and out there I could see Tampa Bay say okay. We gotTA protect Tom. Brady now or we're all in on this year. Let's go get one of those offensive tackles. I could see Tampa being a little aggressive. We went up a couple of picks and getting into that top ten to try to make sure they get one of those tackles Biz Brady and Gronk thing is wild to me and I. I'm pretty plugged in. I did not see this happening. Certainly not when Gronk was just named the wwe champion or something so things really become interesting. It seems like the buccaneers are all sudden. All in on twenty twenty. When I three months ago I don't think anyone was talking about the buccaneers a super bowl. Contenders I just WANNA. Why no we gotta move along but I want to ask Chris Simms. This question this strikes me as odd acquisition. Because if you were to tell me right now give me three teams in the NFL. Who's tight end situations you really like? Tampa would be one of them. And I'm not. I'm not in any way anti-iraq he's one of the best tight ends of all time. What is he now and do? You really need Gronk on this team right now and I. I Dunno Chris. Let's hear your thoughts. Yeah I mean I think it's a brilliant question first off and as we all know. Let's not be captain. Obvious they are. They're all in for twenty twenty. They WanNa make it happen. It's a super bowl run and you know. Gronk is Brady's Brady's comfort tree or his circle address or whatever you WanNa say now do I that some people in Tampa have been underwhelmed by Oj. Our Hey yeah we all know that you know what I want to know to this point and we haven't heard we've heard that they traded the rights to Gras. We don't know if there's a fire involved. I mean I would be shocked if OJ. Howard is a bomb this trade and maybe is on his way up the New England but I just saw this as we sat down so I don't know but yes I'm just as shocked as you because camera break is a very good football player. Oj How or is dangerous and certainly still has room to improve. Been a little bit of okay bus. I don't WanNa say a bus but just underwhelming to this degree so I was surprised to hear it happened to I would think that New England would be asking for one of those tight ends back if they were gonNA give away. Though it says Schefter reported that it's there's they're sending New England four and weakening to send him back a- seven so I don't know okay. Let's let's go to Kevin Bergstrom Worcester Massachusetts Kevin. Come on ABC. Or thanks for doing this for everybody. Appreciate your time You had the past looking at two in the first round in your mock draft. Let's assume that the top three quarterbacks are off the board Including two at in the first round. Do you think the patch would then look to potentially reach for Jordan Lager Jacob? Easson or do you think they would then use that spot for position of need either potentially wide receiver or in front seven on defense. I don't think they're taking Jordan. Olov at twenty three. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded back because they'd like to replenish their the second round pick that they lost. Everybody knows that that was a trade. That didn't work out in trading to to Atlanta for Muhammad new I might gut feeling is that probably Belichick is just going to go and try to take the best guy in a position of need on his roster the other thing I think you is a patriots fan needs to watch out for in this draft is what in the world is going to happen with Joe Tuning. Their cap situation is in the dumpster. And if they keep Joe Tony this year. That's whatever it is fifty million dollars that they gotTa Chop People's salaries in and pushed off to the future. It you know. I think it's more I would guess that it would be most likely the tuning gets traded. They ended up maybe with a to if they can get somebody's to honor that the Patriots are going to be able even if they do. Go get to which you know. I just threw out there because I think it makes sense if he starts falling. I think what you're going to see. The Patriots do is really replenish their roster. With a lot of guys who can make it in be building blocks for the next generation Let us go to Dan. Glad thanksgivin damned glad you're from Cincinnati. Let's go the CIRQUE. I I just want to thank you guys for Redoing this given us a platform to talk sports with an. It's always a broad great 'cause now as as Natty Bengals Fan. I've seen a lot especially during the past year as been pretty but We were really good early. early two dozen sands We couldn't win. That playoff game came close but even in the past year. Twelve out of the sixteen games we were leading and we were the first team to do that since two thousand and only went to gangs now with Joe Berlinger fresh glass coming in along with the new Free Agency. Free Agency period gunman third fade. How long do you think is going to take for us? And what is it gonNA take to get back to that when a competition that we saw in the early two thousand cents Peter Schrager go and Joe Exotic? What's up I'm really. I'm really bullish on the Bengals at least for this draft. Let me explain why I spoke to another team. Who said the fact that the bangles got to go to the senior bowl coach thing? They had their hands on fifty different players that none of us got to even meet in our facility so the bengals have that advantage also this whole entire technology with the virtual draft. Could all crap out I mean it could go haywire the bengals? They're taking the first day they know who they're going to have on their board first second day and on the third day too so at the very least when they're on the clock is not going to suddenly be this incredible technology hurdle instead. It'll be okay. We've been doing this for weeks. We like borough and free agency this year. I thought they did very well. I like. Dj Reader think. He's a fantastic player. And you can get green back on the field. This team could compete now. It's a loaded. Afc North. It's you could say what you want about the steelers of Ben. Back there improved in the browns should be better and of course the ravens. But I don't see this being a ten year rebuild. I think of boroughs the quarterback in today's NFL. When you have a rookie quarterback who's twenty five years old and experienced that he has he should be able to win some games he's expected to. I don't think it's going to be some dark days For many years it might be a rough first season but I think the bengals will be all right. Peter Schrager using a quote that we use every off season since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. The browns should be better this year. Okay Go Barre. Pennsylvania commodity and carry as a a lifelong for the United S- Fan. I was wondering if the niners draft in a league wide receiver. If we don't treat down from thirteen thirty one you'll have back back thousand yard seasons but we haven't had a wide receiver with thousand yard receiving yards since On bolden twenty fourteen. Can I can I just take this one guys? I was telling somebody today that I went to forty niners training camp last year pretty early and the day I was there I thought the best offensive player on the field was their third round. Pick from Baylor Jalen. Hurd any ended up getting hurt and not playing last year. And the only thing I've been told by somebody in San Francisco is of course you know. There's a receiver need but we don't view. Receiver is something we have to do with the thirteenth pick and I agree with them. I think of Giovan kin laws there. That won't surprise me. If they pick them and I also think that they know that the receivers are so good. Schefter reported this. I I said it the same I had him trade down thirteen. They will not mind trading one or both of those picks Because remember the gap between thirty one and like whatever. It is one hundred fifty. They've got the biggest gap of any single team in this draft Let us go to anchor. Shurmur in Seattle. Go ahead anchor. Hey guys thank you so much again. Huge huge Chris Simms and love the unbuttoned podcasts. And everything else So I know you're a Josh Allen Support one of the few in the media So my question is. What can the bills do this weekend to make themselves a legit super bowl contender? Good question good question all right well. Hey the bills. Their team is pretty. Well built as you know. I don't look at it and go. Oh man they got glaring needs all over the field I guess. Hey listen one thing. I'd beating the drum about a little bit. I'm pulling up my notes to make sure I got a spot on answer for you. I understand Devon single. Terry's a good football player. I get that if I'm them. No I'm adding another running back in the first three rounds a little bit more of a Belco type of running back and you know again. This is New England offense. They're running their right with Brian. Day Ball. They believe in running back by committee and single. Terry I think is more the guy. Hey we're spreading. The field is third down. He's perfect for that role. I'd be able to stand the test the time or get you tough yards all the time. When it comes to running between the tackles that would be one concern for me with the buffalo bills there so I think that's one area. I looked at a whole lot. You know defensive line linebackers or set up secondaries in a good spot maybe a little more depth on the offensive line as probably where you'd look at and after that you know. It's kind of icing on the cake. I don't see anything real glaring. At least that I have in my notes go. Oh Man if they don't address this situation they're screwed over. I think they're going to be in the big of things all year and I of course think at AFC playoff contender anchor. Thanks so much for joining us. Atticus Goldie from Toronto. Now Somehow someway Atticus Goldie up in. Toronto has become a raiders fan and he has a question so about raiders lifelong affliction. This is kind of a two part. I'm starting off the Haiku juicery. So GRUDEN's scares me. Lots may not as much trade for two. Yeah and I don't know like and I also want to stay here. Syllables are all off may either. That's only the syllables grammar. Doesn't count not as much and Mr Simons got saying. I've been following your day one. I'm a huge fan of your dad's Love Youtube anyways. Thank you I earned about. I'm concerned about grooten. Hey and I'm concerned about his love or lack of love for car and you crispy and a quarterback play for him How much does she want his guy? Sure okay well you know I would say this. You know you're right I mean. Hey GRUDEN's crazy. He liked to. I always say I like to say on this. Show GRUDEN's a quarterback horror Dir. Okay that's what he does he he likes. Hormann and yes. I don't think Derek Carr is safe to to you know. Just make that point but I also would say how do you really know what Derek Carr is quite a? You haven't that. We put the best in the world around and I'm not sitting here trying to tell you that a derek cars the savior and all those things but there are certainly has enough physical ability and skills and traits to be a starting quarterback in the NFL and lead a team to victories. I mean we saw that team is a second year with all those come fourth quarter comebacks and he was in the MVP conversation but nonetheless. Would I be shocked? If the raiders took a flyer on Jordan love or something like that the second round in case things Derek Carr didn't work out or even the kid who I like Luton from Oregon state just to bring in some competition and also to have a guy there just in case all right we know Derek Carr is not the guy we like this guy. Maybe he could take over the reins next year. Any things in play at the quarterback position with Gruden. I think he's gotta be careful honestly a little bit because he's he's got a reputation and I think he's trying his best make this Derek Carr thing work so he doesn't scare every quarterback in football away from all of the day. I don't think it was twelve and a one thousand nine hundred ninety. I don't I don't think so no I don't. I don't think they're going to do anything drastic. Like that I hear you. It's always gary there with running back with let them do it either may out entrust right man should trust David raitment. Here we go. Let's go hey. Do you see the broncos trading out to get Judy Judy mock draft and I had judy fall into I if I were Denver unless they absolutely were madly in love with a receiver. I would not trade. They're gonNA very good when fall to them. Peter Schrager thoughts. There's talk of them trading up to get one of these guys but if rugs judy are lamour there at fifteen that's a and they can get one of them and if not look just Jefferson's getting a lot of buzz right now and he's the fourth receiver. One of those guys will be there. Fifteen just in. Jefferson had one hundred eleven catches and eighteen touchdowns last year round said well it was the system the neurons a four three nine forty at the combine and everyone says wait. What was that so I think you now have not just three wide receivers before great wide receivers. I couldn't agree more. And at fifteen you're GONNA get one of them. I if I'm over. Think this cortlandt something. You've got drew lock. Let's go to work and I'll I'll second that I'm would be with the justice. I think Justin Jefferson's better than Judy. I mean if you may choose which one I'd rather have. I'd rather have just deficit. So yes just stay there. Then you'll be fine. Gems picks Harrisburg Pennsylvania. You're the only Jacksonville Jaguars in Harrisburg Pennsylvania per month. Yeah that's that's pretty true Pretty tortured ban is what Mr Jaguar. Right you should see the rest of my basement. It's all jaguars stuff So the question I have for you. Guys is in the draft on Thursday in the first round. Where did you guys see the jags going with? Nine hundred twenty two really in my opinion. They can't really go wrong because they need. Everything had the one question. You're not asking is what are they going to be able to get for a very very unhappy unhappy. Yana can dock. `Way a Tony. Boselli told me a couple of weeks ago. Need definitely will be gone by drafty. So that could even make your position stronger. Let's say adding another two because right now. They're at nine twenty nine forty two. They're get three really good players and they obviously need to be if I were them in the pro football focus way. I will take second best corner in this draft. I think that CJ Henderson still will be on the board when they pick. That's why would take it nine. Peter Schreyer thoughts. I'm curious with them. Dropping Marquees Li. If they suddenly are like well you know we can maybe get another corner at twenty eight J. Terrell or Jalen Johnson. Something like that and maybe at nine they say we love CD lamb like the the the Jaguars. It's so interesting. Because they keep they keep caldwell and you feel like it's a clean slate. It's so rare Peter crisis like the do this all over again with the same guys. It's fascinating and I said it on our show. Good Morning Football. I feel like there's in near in the men's Shoe Jersey. I feel like there's going to be a thirty for thirty on the twenty seventeen. Jaguars whatever happened to this team. Jack wasn't down. Doubt is the only one left is pretty much. That's right. I mean it's miles. Jack and Ali the know is is what was the guy who is returning groceries. Jay Don mickens is still there. I don't know if he's not there. He's not out there to work. But I'm fascinated nine now because you know. Dj Charcoal Nice number. Statistically but is he a number one or do you wanna just go CD lamb and say all right? We'll figure out the cornerback spot. I Love C J Henderson also but but the Marquees Lee movements actually kind of interesting yesterday right away right away. I Jim and I'm sure you appreciate this. I love in Jackson Bill with. Dj Shirk scores a touchdown and they played a baby shirks. Or Yes grace your outcome on. Derek you've gotTA RAIDERS QUESTION. You I was GonNa ask you something. Similar to what Abacus was asking you about Mayock but you already said you trust mayock saw all skipped out and just go to the Jock. Picks the raiders do have this year at twelve nineteen I really enjoyed Peter. Your article on the numbers game this week in Fema and the first first round draft receiver second round receivers raiders obviously need need a receiver. Do you think there's any chance they don't take one in with those first. Two round the first two picks first-round well Derek. I would I mean I. I would think they're going to take a receiver because Gruden really wants a take the top receiver and I think I think mayor would want the most complete receiver. And that's why I think they'll take. Cd Lamb. I understand your thoughts. He's referring to a trunk of my column that I wrote the other day that basically said that in the last four draught classes. The second round receivers have been far better as a group than the first round receivers. And it's not just Michael Thomas. The average second round receiver seasons single season over the last four drafts. They caught twenty more balls than The first round picks and and in my opinion unless you have absolutely desperate need. Ed Receiver is going to be so many good ones left in the second round but Peter Schrager it. You told me right now whether you think. The raiders definitely go receiver in the first round. I do I do. I think they definitely go with at least twelve or the nineteenth what I thought atticus is take was so interesting about trading up for two. It's going to be lingering there but I just don't see it so I do. Think Raiders go defensive player at one of those and wide receiver? Together I have it like this. I've got them going lamb at twelve. Then nineteen going with either Aj tyrel Clemson Guy. And that's what may seems to like or Patrick. Weiner Kenneth Moore even if they got all those linebackers and Free Agency. I guess he Chris Simms raising his and when he got crews they lost me so i. I'm sorry I was just saying I'm back all right. Hey let's go to create Norton Komo not Craig Craig Moore and I'll send their peer. Maybe maybe went off. Sorry how about John? Begley John bigly. Are you still with us? I Peter how are you doing Fan Big Fan? So the Josh Rosen. Whatever happened Josh Rosen? And as a team like Patriot. Straight form to the chargers take as a home town kid and then wait on a quarterback next year if he doesn't workout warrants or justin fields. Peter Schrager got some Josh Rosen Knowledge. Go ahead Peter all right. So Josh Rosen. Last year was the quarterback and by the way I love that Daniel Jones Jersey by the little man's dude. I love that Josh Rosen. Was this player with the cardinals. They they were. GonNa Take Carla. Murray and everyone was so defensive. Josh Rosen of you know. How could they do this to him? What an insult. He goes to Miami and he doesn't win. The job from Ryan. Fitzpatrick never really assert himself as the leader and now everyone's off the bandwagon. But I would say this and Peter. You had this in your column earlier this week. Joe Borough is older. Been Josh Rosen. I would not give up on. Josh Rosen yet. I think Josh Rosen was not some punk. That people thought he was going to be when he came in he handled the Arizona situation. Well and I know that in Miami Likable Guy but we just wanted to go with it so I am not ruling out. Josh Rosen but I would not be shocked. And he's playing for a third team in three years. When this thing is all said and done I think one of the tough things right now John. Is that Josh? Rosen is kind of like the used car you buy a new car a taken off the lot. It's automatically devalued a few thousand dollars. So then you go to trade in Josh Rosen. The next year and you originally picked him with the tenth pick then you trade him for. I think the second good is okay and now now you look at Josh Rosen and if you treat them again what are you getting forum and but but I agree with you. I think Josh Rosen. He's got to take in the crap sandwich that he dealt. Okay and he's got to wait. There's GonNa come a moment there will. There will come a moment in his career when the hand the ball may say. Is Your team for the next eight games. And and that and he's just got to be ready. That's the really unfortunate thing. He just got job here and I mean it happens sometimes in football in life. He just can't get so down on everything that he doesn't show up for work and try to still be great. Patriots would take get a steal. I don't I don't think I eat. It doesn't strike me as a patriot. Just I and I don't know why but I mean nothing nothing. Nobody knows Belgium is GONNA do is rarely. I see bellichik chick. Moore's Andy don't guy even if he's gotta pay a four or five. Let's go to Peter. Katz thanks John. Chrysanthemum Cima Panther Fan. So sorry about that with A. You're looking real good so almost so excited about any bridgewater and you are Peter so two questions real quick. Why didn't we resign? James Bradberry and it looks like we're going D first-round ucs going d. The whole draft. Thanks Chris Bell Okay. All right Hey I'm a big fan of a lot of the stuff they had done. James Bradberry I think you know again. They're just looking at rebuilding their team and think they probably looked at that whereas if hey listen. I think the giants overpaid for James Bradberry. I wouldn't have paid fifty million dollars a year for him. He's really good but he's not a guy that you just go. Hey get on an island and cover that guy and stop the best receiver in football. He's not bad guy so I think that's probably we're starting a new era there and I don't think they probably wanted to send money on a guy like that at this point of this new regime. I do expect it to be defense. A lot in the draft I mean certainly going to be some good corners available at the top of the second round for the Carolina Panthers to fill that hole and then you're sitting pretty in the top ten. Where hey whatever you want you want. Or whatever one's available to me Kim Law Derrick Brown. I think their top five typed talent as far as defensive are concerned but I don't think they're going to go in the top five. I'm not sure if either one of them will go in the top. Five and one of them will be there for you. Carolina and yeah. I think you can't miss their their superstars. I mean Brown and Ken. Lots of me when I watch them. I go man. I've never seen humans that big that athletic in that explosive. I mean they're truly special that way but yes I would expect that top part of the draft. The offense is in pretty good shape. You know some Oakland offense alignment maybe in the mid rounds the top part of the draft. I think you're GONNA see a lot of deep. Balancing thanks Kristin Kristin from Kansas City. Money and Kristen do we have you ever on. Hey thank you all for allergy. We'll get Christie back. Let's go to Ryan mcgurk Ryan mcgurk era Kirsten back. Ok Kristen you're back. Go ahead and ask your question again. We could near you say about that. Kristen here in Kansas City straighten. Happy Birthday we love Kansas City. As soon as you head down bandwagon. We love you a swimmer. Do My best. Nick right impersonation you can you have the chief's trading up last week rugs. What do you think about them? Trading out of the first round for a second Third Indianapolis clevelander Miami filling in not only to the cornerback. Need the running back then with that third round a possibly take off guard sold to try and replace tardy to save up some capitalism. I mean they are going to need some Catherine. There's no doubt about it. But I- Peter before he before he continued is that a Kimble Anders Jersey. What Jersey are you rocking right? Now Joe Delaney good for you Joe Delaney Degrade. The I just say chill. Quick things takes to tango. I do think that Kansas City will have a chance to trade back because the last pigging around means that we take a guy in the first round you have them for five years you know potentially which is a year longer obviously in the second round so they probably are going to have a chance to trade out but I I mean look. I Know Indianapolis a little bit. I'd be surprised if Indianapolis Trades into the Earth's not shock surprise because they've got a bunch of players right in the second round range and I think they definitely want to use both of their pigs in there as far is sort of your future and everything like that and and and won't end down the road in this draft. In my opinion I think what Brent beach does and what Andy Reid does. Is they look at their major positions of need. They'll fill it. But the reason why I think the guy who told me about this bizarre with trade for Henry Rugs in their twenties which is totally weird. It's because they knew that they always want two or three guys. Were three range guys every game and those guys get hurt and that's why even though it seems ridiculous. I think in some ways it makes a little bit of sense. Let's go to Ryan mcgurk. Come on Ryan guys. Thanks for your time today. Funny Click today thrown football. Jimmy was. They're getting his workout in so for the niners fan come on earlier he's He's definitely getting Zorkin. Jets fan here in the bay area. My question is if you're if you're Joe Douglas and you've got five or six years left on your contract. How do you think about this year's draft in relation to cut a multi year draft strategy? You you this your `isolation or what's your kind of two to three times has in terms of building the optimal team. That's sustainable for the long haul. An excellent excellent question. Peter Straight or go. I don't know if the season could have gone worse than I. Eight weeks for the jets last year and yet they finished a season. Well I think they they view this thing as last year was that wash year and this is the year they contend especially with Brady out the division I. I don't think they're looking for some long term thing. I think that obviously they'd like to be great over long term. But there's no doubt in my mind with darnold healthy and the progress made over the last few weeks last year and this offseason with a new revamped offensive line and what some actual health on the Line of Defense with a healthy. Cj Moseley and healthy other couple guys. They think they could compete. They are not taking a Mulligan on this year. And I believe they're going to draft players that can play right away and can actually be impact players in year one for them. I was rookies Ryan. I'll just add this. What is very interesting about the jets? Someone who knows Joe? Douglas very well told me this weekend when I was talking about jets. He said listen if he likes offensive linemen and it's even close just remember two things last team. He was at his Philadelphia. Yes you was. When in doubt take as many offensive line minutes he can. You're always gonNA need X. Number One and number two is remember right now. His franchise quarterback has one of the worst offensive lines in. Maybe the worst even with well not not not right now but he would joe. Douglas has bought is a bunch of C plus guys. Okay flogger guys. He hasn't he hasn't bought in free agency. Free of franchise offensive line. They're still a major major need there. I'd I'd be surprised if you didn't go off into line with it I pick. Let's Go Jeff Jackson Europe. Jeff are there. Thanks guys well Hope Springs Eternal as long Detroit. Lions Fan from Saskatoon Saskatchewan. Canada had all I've ever had is the NFL draft. So I appreciate all. Your folks are doing here today. Also I just WANNA take one second bank all the medical staff everywhere for doing an MVP job to keep us all safe but my my question here is is there a real scenario where the lions trade down and and I know you need a partner dance went to make that happen but is that possible and I hope it's not corner. Do you see Isaiah Simmons in Honolulu blue. What are your thoughts? Guys Jeff. The first thing I'm going to say is you have had the quote of the event you want to know what it was all. I've ever had is the NFL draft this so true way. Hey by the way I have been to Mosaic Stadium. Oh Wow okay. I've been to Saskatchewan baby okay here. We Go Chris. Simms tell me about the Detroit. Lions trading down and Isaiah Simmons and how you look at him. Okay well I love assesments. I don't know if he's necessarily going to be the guy for the Detroit lions again. You Know Simmons I think is more you know. He's a very athletic guy. I don't know if he's quite got. Physicality that a map patricia slash bill belichick disciple will want at the linebacker position. Plus you know with Jamie Collins and some of the guys. You've drafted over the last few years you you got some depth that that position. I Love Simmons to. He's my number one linebacker now when the training down conversation this is interesting to me. Because hey like Peter said it's two to tango. But who is who is in demand number three right. Now unless somebody catches quarterbacks could maybe get traded for anything like that so they need you know someone to have fear of all no. We might lose the Guy He'd one and I'm just not so sure where that happens unless there's a team that wants to move up and get a tackle in front of the giants that feel like oh the giants might take our guy and now they want to trade with Detroit. Detroit trades back and gets down there the first round a little bit you know. That's a possibility. Does somebody fall in love with one of the two defensive tackles from Auburn or South Carolina. I said a minute ago. I think their top optics. They're every bit as good as Clinton Williams last year at number three with the New York jets. So that's the biggest problem for Detroit. I feel bad for them because the two injury hurt. Then maybe more than anybody. A crash that trade market and I you know as I sit here and do my mock draft them. Finish IT UP I. I have a hard time finding a trade for the Detroit Lions and. I think they're going to be stuck there and I think that probably going to have to overdraft corner at three. I Like Okuda. I don't think he's worth the number three pick but I have a feeling that's what's going to happen the Detroit. The only the only way I could see a trade there is if as I wrote that if Miami is so in love and can't with with one of the quarterbacks and can't bear the thought that even though apparently the chargers are not going to jump them in trade with Detroit is it worth just to be able to sleep Wednesday night peacefully. Is it worth moving up or making a preliminary agreement save? Our Guy is there. Would you agree to this deal? That's the only way that I could see. They're making a trade a wait a minute. I don't think anyone's making it through Cincinnati. I don't think Ron Rivera doing anything. We'll take chase young and I think Detroit has been trying to drum up interest the best way they can to say there is. They're open for business or there's a hot trade market but I'm with Chris and Peter here I don't think there's a trade partner I just don't and it's going to be a game of chicken and chestnutty between the chargers and the dolphins from what I gather. Neither team is exactly dying for either one of those quarterbacks. Anyway so right I. It's not like it's this is our guy we need to get him. It's whoever's left all right. Maybe we'll take them I. It's very interesting year after. Borough the quarterback market is not steaming. Right now and that's what the lions needed Leslie. Hang on for I were going to Kevin to Kevin to worry there. Yeah Beater. Hey let's go bob. Cats BABY RIGHT SO MISERY LOVES COMPANY. Were going from the Lions. The browns complete overhaul the Front Office and coaching staff questions. That we finally have the right guys leading. Us doesn't matter as long as either Shriek or go ahead. I don't know if it's the right guys. I know that they're very well. Respected like Stefanski. Was they wanted him as the offensive coordinator and the giants last year. He interviewed with several teams. And like he's a very respected guy around the league but thirty eight old man and he's now coming in to be the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Thirty eight years old spent most the offseason living in Minnesota. So it's not a typical off season. I A fancy But those guys were feeling cousins. Bridgewater those guys all swear by Stefanski. Let's see how he is as an NFL head coach especially as a first year. Nfl coach in a new market with a very fan base with very odd offseason Andrew. Berry we know about his academics. We know about that but again first year. Gm and how? I don't know how much you learned Howie Roseman for the last two years and working with Joe Douglas Nap. But I you know I I can't say slam dunk. This was the number one. Gm prospect in the League. And I can't say that was Number One head coaching prospect in the League. But sometimes that's just fine as long as these players respect them as long as they make the right picks it could be all right. These were not homerun. Hires which we've been used to with Cleveland. You know the one thing I would say is. Baker may feel doesn't play. Well what is what does it matter? I mean I don't mean you know forever. I just mean for the next couple of years. The quarterback got play. Well or else. Stansky is going to be out a outlook for job in two years. And I'm not trying to be overly name. It's just a fact of life. Baker Mayfield is the most important person in that franchise right now and no one else's clothes for second Lesley Allman. Let's go. Let's just go to let's go to Ed Madden. And they're just. GimMe anybody to go as From Mount Airy Maryland I add go ahead. How do you feel about the dolphins rebuild approach? Where do you see them? Finishing a couple years Chris Simms. Go ahead okay. Well listen I'm a fan of just about everything going down in Miami. I'm a huge fan of Brian Flora. Listen I work with them in New England. I think he's a real hard ass no nonsense. Sob who knows how to coach football. He knows how to run on organizational. Also a fan of will greer as well you know. I don't want to see the dolphins to make too many trades in this draft trade. Upper Joe Borough. They got too many holes that bill on that roster but I think things are going in the right direction. I was a fan of what they did in free agency. I think Byron Jones is special. Getting Kyle van Noy down there. So mother Signings like shock lawson things like that so this is a huge draft. They're nowhere out of the woods as we know. But I do know these guys down there and they know how to evaluate football players. They know how to evaluate players specifically to fit what they WANNA do XS and Os wise on the football field and from that standpoint. I trust them. I'm expecting big things here in the first two days. Two days of the draft the Dolphins Sam Ensign Europe guys. Thank you for doing this so much. I'm curious about the draft this year. Of course because it's control and it's going to be a lot different What exactly would be the worst case scenario? Considering there's a lot more technology involved a lot more communication is there a plan B is is it going to be okay isn't GonNa go as swiftly as Sam. I'll take that one. I think I told the Bill. Barnwell today on his pod That is just my opinion and I don't mean to be snide or anything like that. But if you're given ten minutes the first round seven minutes in the second and third round five minutes in the fourth through seventh rounds if you're given all of that time and you are three different ways to get in get your draft. Pickett number one you do it through Microsoft teams which is an encrypted server. That you just type your pick in and it to Ken Fiore the. Nfl's drafts are in New York number. Two there is an open conference. Call Line that every that three designated people for every team will have access to the general manager in two others? All you would have to do is pick up the phone on. Mute era mine and say Yeah this the Bengals were identify yourself. We're taking Joe Borough quarterback Lsu if all things fail you got can fury cell phone. That's the thing you pick up the phone and you call can say we're taking Joe Borough Duke. Tobin with the bengals. I just think there has been so much made of this. You know I think that you don't have to be really that technologically advanced to be able to draft players in two thousand twenty in the NFL draft. So I don't I personally. I think it's going to be much ado about nothing. And if it is something I would more blame the teams are. I blame an act of God knocking out your Internet your phone line and your ability to Yodel your pick to your neighbor so he can call her. Your thank you all right. How ABOUT HUGH NONE? She were you there. Now wait a minute listening all mid we found you leslie and I'm still here. I'm I'm good steelers fan in in Seattle so Thank you guys for doing this. A really my my question was was really follow up with with Sam's You know if if if something happens and and I know you said that that it's very unlikely that it would that I mean. Is there a backup plan is? Is there any thought of postponing the draft? If I believe natwest it's too late now. Okay the postpone it and plus. I think that it was. I wrote on Monday in my column. I talked to Roger Goodell on Saturday. This is really about something a little bit more than replenishing the teams in making draft choices. This is about saying to America. Okay listen we're in a bag of crap time in this country we all know it and but we all have to move on and we've all got to attempt to live our lives the best we can right now and so if the NFL because the technology is weird and they have to get together either conference call or video conference and talk that way versus all being in the same room. I can tell you the. Nfl would view that as you know alibi making and it. You know not not being very wise and I get everybody's concern about it but I'm not and I'm not trying to be flip about it but And again fifty people in the last month said to me man. People got a lot bigger problems than we do. We should be able to figure this out and again. I think that's how that's how everybody is looking at it right now. None your here okay. Thanks guys for doing this. This is uh a pretty amazing opportunity. And and just to echo your what you were just saying the the three hundred sixty five day aspect of the NFL's become as really been just such a lifesaver in the absence of all of sports so But I'm a big ravens fan and would was wondering I know. Peter straker has a little bit of Pissy with Ravens actually met you at the chargers game playoff game on Saturday the Looking at the draft looking at all mocks and all of the all the players that everybody says you know this Guy Zach von or AJ would be great in wings defensive scheme or something like that. What are a couple of players that you know could fall to were at fifty five and sixty in the second round? What a couple of players you see. That aren't the thoughts about that. Could be just a irresistible. Bp A bit right there. Peter Sri go right so I think the Ravens would linebacker and I think Kenneth Murray is going to be gone asked him is GonNa be gone. Patrick Queens going to be gone. I'll give you an Jordan Brooks at Texas Tech. Very fast player. He had a labor injury so he might go down a little bit he might fall. Fifty five I think I think the Wisconsin Kids Akron. He might be there fifty five. Everyone says they have him as a first or second round grade. But if linebackers aren't our position of absolute need he could slip and then I like some of the offensive Lineman If they wanted to add and try to fill in for Janda in some way that Chris was mentioning earlier whether it be hunt. The Big Kid from Louisiana. It's not always anymore. It's just Louisiana. And then I think you get some of these other guys that that really had a good combine experiences Second Round is where they've traditionally done really well but you know with. All those compensatory picks third round is where the Ravens really do their damage and I think I'd be very confident that their group in a year where a GM is new and his scouting directors knew the ravens between Eric. Decosta Georgia Aquinas. And Joe Joe Heart Disease. Those guys know each other and they all speak the same language. I think it's a great advantage in this offseason dinner. You there with thoughts about the cardinals. Cuyler Murray Brandon's but I just got asked to turn them on video doing. Are You Pittsburgh native point from quick Loza but So as much as I love. Big Bang is obviously having needed quarterback Do you think they're likely to address that and stress Go after some agency or might fall next year. Chris Simms okay. Well I've been beating this drum you know. I I don't think you could feel comfortable with the quarterbacks you got on the roster right now you know listen I think Big Ben yes probably got a year or two left and I'm a good football play I would still be worried if that he got hurt again that you know here we go. We're going to have to win games with some invented offense and the defense is GonNa play out of this world so we can win thirteen to ten. It's just not realistic. You just you can't do it. I haven't beating the drum of Jameis. Winston Brendan McCormack. I don't know if you've heard me doing pro. Football talk five in the morning but to me. If I'm Jamie Swinson I take the minimum and go play for the Pittsburgh steelers. Wow and I think one guy like Mike Tomlin and company would know how to handle a guy like Jameis Winston too. I can't tell you how many people in the NFL look Jameis. Winston evaluated go. Oh my gosh. I'd love to get my hands on him. He's so super. Talented is good is great now. I know just as we all know. His bad is like stupidity. Bad where you just go. What the Hell was that? Okay but coaches always have confidence that they can teach that plus Winston has played and he certainly better than Mason Rudolph or DOT COM. So I'm just throw that name out there. But if they feel like they really don't want to go that route then. Yeah they need to start dabbling a little bit here in the second third fourth round draft to figure out who they can hit a home run with. Don't traffic guy and go all. We think he'd be a good backup or he's good in the quarterback rule. He draws nice circles in X. On the board. No if you're going to dry drive the quarterback at that point go for somebody that you think has star potential that might be able to be your starter somewhere down the road. But I think the Pittsburgh steelers would be crazy not to be thinking about the quarterback thing a little bit right now. Let's go to the other brandon. Here we go other granted. I think you're the cardinals brandon. Yes Sir are you guys doing okay? You dress up higher nine. Yeah about the dog. What's going on with the dog little phoebe? She's she fell asleep on me so baby. Good dog are you calling from Brandon? Whenever we're going queen which Arizona Queen Creek. Okay my questions. A two part question one is with us. Get the Audrey Hopkins. Thanks Bill. O'brien for that You guys for seek Kyla. Murray taking the next step in his you know the national perspective on him. Hopefully the same that help you the next combs or Lamar Jackson like league on fire and go off on that. Nfl case that does happen. I know we were talking about. Josh Rosen a little bit earlier you guys. I do the rest of the League saying okay. We can take a quarterback top. Said if it's not working out or we think this might be better change the way they draft and start taking quarterbacks quarterbacks running backs as a commodity while they're on that rookie contract Peter Schrager having. It's a cool question because it's one of these deals where everyone's like if they take two of this year the dolphins all GonNa get what if they take to it as a workout. I think another one next year like it's possible we could do it. I would look singing. Hold on sorry I guess. Can you guys still hear me? I'm sorry we anyway. I would look at this situation and I would say cuyler Murray the I guess the the bar is so high because mahomes in year two goes on and throws for fifty wins. Mvp then Lamar does it. But there is so many expectations in that building. That not only the Andre Hopkins being added but whatever they get with the eighth overall pick they're going to be players and that NFC west. So I would think this is the year for cuyler. We don't get to years of build up. We get it now and I think cliff Kingsbury knows. He speaks the language he knows. He's ready. And with Larry Fitzgerald deandre Hopkins and Christian Kirk. And don't forget this name Dan Arnold. I know cliff logs Dan. Arnold. Who'S THE TIGHT END? Who had a great finish of the season? They feel very confident about their offensive. Weapons Hey listen. We're going to do two more questions for the three of us and then I'm going to release Peter Schrager. It's his birthday. I'M GONNA Release Chris Simms. The reason I'm going to release Chris Simms is it. He has already done seventeen hours of television today. A- wants to go a higher after this we got a couple more. I don't know about a fat tire Peter but something like that. Yes yes Fatty will let me in my mouth later. Yes all right here we go Scott. You're maybe you'RE NOT MEDEA WANNA give out areas. They're Scott Scott. Hey guys going. Thanks for doing this for a great cause and hope everyone. Staying healthy and safe for question is now the Patriots. They liked their linebackers height. Weight will different now if they stay in the first round and Marie or Queen Are There. Do you think they would consider them or would they pass? I think they need some speed in that linebacker group. I think bond is the next is the next tedy Bruschi myself. Well And I think he's he is a really really well respected guy around the league and I desperately wanted to put him in the first round. I just couldn't make it happen. Peter Straight go. I'm just laughing because your take that. Yeah Tedy Bruschi. That's a very good. I'll take that too. That's good. What about sit him? If he came out this year where would you have him? Ranked in the quarterback ranking Chris Simms. Where would you have stood up right now? Yeah that's a great question. First off let me just say this you know if he comes out a year earlier what she thought about he going to be a first round pick. You know then. The team fell apart is last year at Auburn. And we're in this era where the teams good. It's because of the quarterback teams bad. It's because of the quarterback that's all the only thing we blame you know so. That's why his draft status fell to the fourth round. Anyways you know I think if I evaluated for this draft right year. Ooh He'd probably be in a very tight close race for me. I I have Berle one in just an urban too and I'm not I don't care about too is injuries or nothing. He would not be my number one or number two if he had a clean slate so I think would be in that conversation for the next guy up the position you know it would be close between him and I prefer guy like sit a more than I do. Too honestly But again I really I know for my friends in New England working up there they think the world of this kid and I would be shocked if they drafted a quarterback high in this draft. Because I THEY WANNA frame the team around him and give him a shot and see what he's got. Hey Chris Simms Peter Schrager. Thanks a million rarely back up. Thank you guys demand. I know thank you saw. Everybody Happy Birthday. Thank you guys. Have an awesome draft and Peter. What a great idea to you. Intestine everyone back at the ranch. Matt Casey All. You guys fantastic. Thanks for vitamin as blast sweat or because sweat has the sat in it. So I know you haven't worked out a whole lot your life. You're a little confused valley. I was waiting for some sort of rigging. Thank you Chris. You're you're era guys. How are you Thank you so much for doing this. That's of much-needed distraction so A huge Green Bay packers fan. I'm actually a shareholder as well on some obviously very interested in what's going to be taking place in the next few days. So we've seen quarterbacks now playing into their late thirties early forties so at the same time. The clock is starting to take on the Aaron Rodgers era. So I am curious. What do you see the packers prioritizing over the weekend do you see it being skilled positions or do you see them? Maybe going for middle linebacker. Some like Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray see I think the really interesting knackers is that they're in. They're in almost. The exact same position is Ted Thompson was in two thousand five. They know need. They had no desire to take a quarterback in fact there was some of the organization who knew it would piss. Spread far off ended did But obviously it's the best pick the Ted Thompson ever made. And so now you look at the situation and the one difference that I see this here. Okay look if to talk of a low I is there when the packers pick. They should just take out. You know we all none of us think he's GonNa be there with. They should take him. Let him get well and everything and then in two years. We'll see what happens. Aaron Rodgers. Very clear he wants to play. I think he wants to play at least three more years. So it's not the ideal thing but in my opinion With the packers having another pick late in the second round if they desperately WANNA RECEIVER. Of course they want one. I think they could still get a very good one at the end of the Second Brown. So in my opinion I think if they get a quarterback that they really like it twenty four and I. I don't know if they liked Jordan love but if they do take us. You don't have an opportunity to get a quarterback who you really love very often and they're going to be too good. They're never going to be drafted. The top ten you know for the for the next few years so to me. I think if they love one of those guys and he's there they should take them if not don't force it. Thanks Peter Jared Iraq. I there Benji for doing this. Microsoft is about the impact of the draft And so how much of an impact that had on scouts in their ability to attract certain players and Doing virtual meetings with players like how much ineffective that hat on the draft? Ross Irma teams. It's a really good question I wrote in my column Ten days ago or whatever. It was nine days ago about a quarterback for the rams ease their southeast Scout He lives in Daphne Alabama and his job is basically to go to about thirty pro days in March. I like April tenth. Biggest last one was Alabama on April nights and so he now has to make judgments on players without going to pro day without getting that extra contact with and his. Name's Mike Pierce. He said you know I actually like it because most of these guys when you see him when you see them any tarp amid pro days and you know it may be at a lunches setup or something like that. Very practiced very rehearsed. I WANNA know a guy from how he plays and if we're really GONNA pick him for serious about him then let's talk to and make sure there's nothing is background. That would really scare us off about so honestly I. I don't think I don't think a lot of regional scouts are pain. I think they believe that we should just watch the tape. Watch the Games and trust our eyes and pick these guns the beat manure. Hi I'm Jack I'm Jack Beacon. I'm calling from my From Syracuse New York signed ads. Dad's knock book and I. I'm a New England New England patriots fans in. I have a question which of the top second tier quarterbacks would best fit would be the best fit for the Patriots if they draft warm. Thank you so much for doing. This are you. I mean my opinion the one that would fit him. Best is even though need doesn't really fit their mole per se is jalen hurts a thinks he is a guy who one of the reasons that Bill Belichick with like him is that he's played at the top level huge games in college football and nothing about playing a game in the. Nfl IS GONNA bother him disturb him freak them out in any way He's played well in two huge college football places in proven himself twice in those times so if I were the Patriots and again I don't think they'll get a chance to them in the second round. I think he'd be gone by then. He's the guy who I loved to see. Bill Belichick and Josh mcdaniels give their hands Mike Porter Europe. Thanks a lot for For Communist today Jack. All the best to you Hi My name is Tommy border from my tummy. Syracuse New York wondering if you thought that the trade for Stefan digs giving up the first round. Pick which worth it. I thought the bills got a very good player. Tommy but in my opinion I think they overpaid for him. He's a he's a very good player but they traded a one plus stuff forum and I mean when I look at the difference between what Arizona ended up paying for Andre Hopkins. It's almost fifty cents on the dollar appeared to what you know. What Buffalo paid? I understand why they did it. They really needed a receiver and they needed them at a fair price. So and I think he's going to be a good player for them we. I do think they overpaid. Thank both gay Mike McCormick Mike you there I am Peter Okay mine kind. Hi How are you today My question is about the steelers Obviously last year was disaster within going down and all the other issues that had How many players do you think they are away from returning to competitiveness in the AFC north? And what are the key positions? They need to focus on in this drought. I mean I think I think as long as Ben Roethlisberger's healthy they're gonNA win double digits but that has always been the big question They obviously in my opinion with everything else. That is a need on their team. I think your biggest need to get their quarterback in the future because Ben Rothlisberger. You can't rely on it to stay healthy for the year I have written. I've said I think that they should be interested in. Go after James Winston He. He's the one year five million at the tough love for Mike. Tomlin presume said earlier on a you know on this That's what I would do. I've heard that the steelers have zero interest in Janus Winston. I mean Kevin Colbert's a lot smarter about football than I am. I would have an interest Janus Winston at next to nothing price and I don't mean to keep beating the drum for Jalen hurts but I just really liked. This guy is a player. I think he would be a really really good addition for them. If you look at Pittsburgh right now to me I think that they have to start concerning themselves with retooling and rebuilding that secondary If I were them it's not a great year either for safety's or corners with that would be a real focus of mine with that loans. Second Round pick if they go order back. Thanks a lot are are are you. There are not sure that stands for but Europe Matt. Do we have neil sing bequest. Yeah I'm a big. I'm a big Fan My question was do you think Jamal Adams gets traded during the draft If so who do you go to how much we get back? I don't think he's GonNa get traded during the draft. Jerry Jones was asked about him today and he basically threw cold water. All over. The cowboys. Love Jamal Adams but the cowboys are also in big. Capterra A team. That would want Jamal. Adams has to have a lot of capital. I doubt that they're going to trade him. Because Joe Douglas does not want to trade The most either the first or second most popular player on the team in and around the first first draft. He's had for that team so I don't see them trading him. I see some headaches. Jamal Adams going forward. I have no idea why he would say I'm not going to be involved in the off. Season Program. I mean that's that is to me saying you know what trade me on draft weekend. That's what it says to me. It might not be what he means. That's what it says to me Tyler. O'brien era hey My questions about the Cleveland Browns. And whether you think you think it's better value to trade amid round pick for Trent Williams and pay him that ten to fifteen million dollars or n be able to track down from the tenth overall. Pick or drowsy tackle or go ahead and take the tackle them you know in my opinion Tyler I don't think that Washington would take four or five. I think they would sit on. Trent Williams I don't I don't believe that they are going to do that. but having said that. I also think that Washington is very very much in cellars mode for him. If you're talking about maybe the seventy or seventy fifth big. I think that might get it done for Trent Williams but I doubt sincerely once you start getting into the hundreds I think Washington would hang on and maybe trade him for a pick next year of before training camp starter. I don't even know what training camp is going to be this year. But I I think it's going to take a better offer that to you. Know to To get trained Williams away from Washington Our our dear either okay Let's see Matt have we hit everybody. I think What about David Barassie David? Are you there? Don't see that name gate. Is there anybody else now. Who has not asked a question? I think we're I think we hit everybody at least once. Derek Ralph says even gone yes. I hit him Richard Velez. I've not him. Let's have Richard Guys. Richard Horia A. Why thank you for doing this? Peter Much appreciated sure. I'm I just wanted to get your thoughts on Aj Terrell from Clemson you. Think he's GonNa Think Raiders may take a wide receiver and then Mac likes his big corners. So is that someone they can take nineteen or that's I look. I think that they're either going big school corner. Let's assume they take a receiver the first pick in the round and they don't trade out. I think they go big school corner. Clinton's in Alabama right here and it's funny when I when I was asking People about digs in and and AJ Torelli at they. In over the weekend is very very interesting. Level of competition. Everybody started talking about that. Look at Mike Mayock. He's only one draft on his resume with Mike. Mayock loves level of competition. And that's why last year you know. He told me a story last year about the safety they took for Mississippi State. Jonathan Abra about a couple of games that he played last year against the biggest competition. Mike Mayock is one of these believers that if you play against the best competition for three years in you acquit yourself. Well you're GONNA come into the NFL and you're not going to struggle now. Abram had some injuries last year but I think that is what man I put down what I was taking notes. And I'm looking at it right. Now clemes Alabama corner right at number eighteen. So I think they're going to take one of those guys okay. Great a quick follow on. What's your view on T. Higgins I didn't see him getting much separation at all against Ohio state in the championship. Game against Lsu so you don't just two quick thoughts on all right. So I think when you look up and when you look at guys and I wanted to look up a some some of his numbers okay but I think because most people who look at t higgins right now you know what they see they see a guy who they believe is very much. Nfl already okay. And I understand exactly what you're saying but any any needs to fill out some with just just think of a guy who basically is six four and he has done a really good job fifty fifty balls and that to me is one of the things that NFL people like and again I agree with these. Not a real fast guy. He's some people are going to say you know. Even though he's tall he's he isn't going to get that great separation. One one of the things that when you talk to. Sean Payton about Michael Thomas Different receiver. Okay Lee Trump. Sean Payton one of the things he said is says is Michael. Thomas makes the fifty fifty balls seventy thirty and that when people look at Ti Geoghegan's that is what they want to build him into something that it's a little bit bigger guy and they believe I think people will look at t higgins will leave that he can if he fills out a little bit believed that he could be that more physical receiver awesome. Thank you thank you Okay Richard Velazquez. Oh that was you. Thank you man. Do we have anybody else who is not who has not spoken. We've done it now. Hour and a half lousy direct ready. Anyone has anything very one. Speak up in the chat if you haven't asked the question let's go one more we get. Hey wait a minute Andy Beekman you said you have a covert nineteen NFL question. Let's end on that happy. Note off Peter doing any big. I decided my son just broke down in tears. How exciting to US FOR ON SCREEN? Use Aching so much we're here in Syracuse new question. I'm I'm a lawyer by trade and I'm really curious about how the Kovin nineteen NFL. I you know things that we're facing now impact the CBA in the contracts involved if there's no revenue that's GonNa be produced from the stadiums and other of these other ancillary revenue streams. Do you have any insights and how that impacts the CBA? The individual contracts with the ramifications could be there. You know it's interesting. I'm going to be on a conference call tomorrow and with with the D. Smith at the Union and one of the questions I had written down. One of the topics is water. Players writes in a situation like this I mean let's just say for the sake of argument that the NFL plays a twelve game schedule this year. You don't do players. Essentially get get seventy five percent of their compensation or or or will the union say. Wait a second. You know Who we think they ought to get paid in full. So those are things that it's really interesting You know I I can't. I can't emphasize this enough in the last two or three weeks. I have written so ivory three the longest collins that I've ever written in my life and the reason is there is an endless supply of topics in interesting content. In you. Just ask the question. You're not the only one who has that question what's going to happen. Everybody is curious about that. Everybody is in so to me when I look at that. I say that's something that I'm sure. The D Smith and Roger Goodell and and the Players Association Management Council with the NFL. They've got to address that but I think they're probably GonNa wait and see what happens. You know turned the course of the off season because I still think I don't know if I'd say are bullish on it but I still think is a good chance. They're GONNA play the sixteen game schedule. Anyway. Thank you we do have one guy. It was not Iraq. Who has not been called Tom? Cricket or YOU THERE TOM. I think I am how you doing. I'm doing fine Peter Peter in view of the packers that success. Why does Brian Gooden? Kunst now get any love. I mean I think I think he got some last year but I think a general manager who takes over a team with Aaron Rodgers as the quarterback. It isn't that he's not that that he's GonNa have to work extra hard to get love. It's just that I think people are going to want to see him. Want to see them win consistently now last year he hadn't credible off season. You know he made two of the best free agent signings to the five or six best in all football with the Smith brokers and I just think you gotta stack a few of those together. Just a gut feeling. I'm I'm I'm not I'm I'm I like. I like him a lot. I mean I've talked to him at length a couple of times. He's very smart. He's a meat and potatoes Guy Respect. The game learned a lot from you. Know the great mentors in recent Green Bay. Front office history I think he'll get his do if they continue to win. Thank you elicit thanks to everybody and thanks for giving me some really really good content on my podcast this week. That's great. Thanks so much for helping to great causes an emergency causing New York City where island and also The Midwest Food Bay that is I can tell you is is so so pleased that we would step up and do a little something for at the time of the greatest need in their thirteen year history. 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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 10/09/18

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 10/09/18

"The mad money with Jim. Cramer podcast is punctured by Fidelity Investments at fidelity. We believe nothing should come between you and your money. So we're introducing zero counties with zero minimums to open an account all because we want you to invest with zero tradeoffs, visit fidelity dot com. Slash value to learn more. Zero count, minimums, zero count fees, apply to retail brokerage accounts. Only expenses charged by investments, such as funds and managed accounts for commissions, interest charges, or other expenses for transactions may still apply fidelity brokerage services. Number NYSE SIPC. My mission is simple to make you money. I'm here to level the playing field all investors. There's always a bulwark at summer and I promised to help you find it may have money starts now. I'm Cramer. Welcome at money. Welcome to Cray. Mark. Are the people want to make friends on this trying to make some money? My job is not just entertain, but also to teach educate you. So call me at one eight hundred seventy three CBC or tweet me act. Jim. Cramer. You'd have to search farm y defined someone who's been as Bush as I have over the past couple of years. But sometimes we need to step back sometimes can do little reassessment effort day where the Dow lost fifty six points. The SNP declined point, four percent and the NASDAQ actually inched up point three percent. I gotta tell you, I'm starting to get a tad concerned about the health of more and more industries here the universe of potential winners does feel like at least to me that it's getting more now do not get me wrong. I'm saying this right up front. I am not saying you should sell everything. The only time I ever did that was in early October of two thousand eight sell sell, sell, sell, told you to sell everything that you needed next five years because the Fanshawe questions going to get worse before it got better and what's happening now is nothing like what happened back then. If you've been saving up for your retirement by putting money in Espy index fund, something that everybody should do. You don't need to touch that position. Keep put money in over time. That's that's something you try to trade. It's an extremely long term investment, but it comes to a number of individual stocks thinks if suddenly gotten a lot more risky, what's the problem? We've been talking about the fed and insurance a lot lately may have money and with good reason for many years and didn't really need to worry that much about the Federal Reserve, particularly under Janet Yellen back then when it came to admittedly much needed rate hikes, because rates were too low versus the health of the economy you, they wouldn't be raised nilly, willy nilly. It wouldn't just go up with with their eyes closed. They were going to beat what's known as data dependent economy slowed down too much after a height. They put the rate hikes on hold. That's called reasonable, reasonable, and that policy was great also for the stock market. That's not wildlife did, but it was great. And of course, interest rates for priestly lower back then stocks had much less competition. From the ball market. But last week, the new fed chairman, Jerome Powell threw away the data dependent playbook and start explaining how it was important for the fed. Did just keep raising rates for guardless because he communists so strong and even Dover suit in order to cool down the economy. Now that's not the kind of talk. Then dear shoot a Wall Street, nor by the way, doesn't injured drone pal to the president who said this very soon. He didn't like how quickly the fed was raising rates. He said the rates, the rate hikes are coming to fast something. I've been saying for weeks now I know keeping inflation contained is part of pals job. But when he talks about overshooting that's like saying he wants to slam the brakes and the economy rather than gently tapping the brakes because it doesn't matter a strong economy is, hey, it'll Kenneth can handle anything. It doesn't matter that's wrong. I don't like this. I'm like, do any more than the president. Let's when I hear that the fed is going to keep tightening until the cows come home. It makes me think that the cows are actually hit the slaughterhouse. So I grow concern, pals, game plan, sound secure. See like what Ben Bernanke he did during the lead up to the great recession. Oh, another time when economists so strong. We didn't need to worry about it. It's just tightening on autopilot with no real regard for the reality of the situation, but it's not just the financial crisis. When get to be my age, you've seen this story over and over again, lockstep rate hikes from the fed causes an economic slowdown. It almost never has a happy ending something the business side of President Trump knows all too. Well. Now all day today, I got the vibe that I'm supposed to be dead wrong on this that the economy is just so strong and I'm totally off the reservation. But let me say this about the reservation. I don't take my cue from the fed or its data. I don't actually have that what Trump card for top-down macro data about the whole economy, even cleaning the feds data on what's soon as a bottoms up guy. Meaning I prefer to listen to individual company sopping up with eight me like the world's biggest sponge. I suspect I speak to more than just about anyone else in the media world. If not the actual world, I take. What they tell me and piece it together and do a mosaic about the whole country. That's my job, and here's what I know. And what I hear these CEOs have gotten worry, they weren't earlier now they are. They see many things slowing some rather dramatically. We heard from Lenore the biggest homeboy that there's a pause in housing. Some the other home builders are saying the same thing to me. I always point out that housing punches well above its weight in terms of its impact on the economy. I don't like what I'm hearing about loan growth, and I bet we'll be even more concerned about it when the banks start reporting on Friday that could impact the whole construction industry, which is a lot of jobs. I don't like how the airline stocks are trading because they're being squeezed by higher fuel costs books. I can't pass them on. There's a sense that the data center may actually be slowing now, something I disagree with, but I can't ignore the chatter. One of my absolute favorite bellwethers. The stock of FedEx is behaving very poorly down. Another two percent. I'm appalled how terribly the liner board stocks trade and that's because there is too much supply, not enough demand, think about it. If you have something to ship you put it in a car gate a box. It's not a good sign when these stocks take you out their fifty two week lows in violent fashion. Many chemical stocks are getting and nyah lated here. Chemicals and liner board are highly accurate forecasters of the future. And then last night we got the real punch to the kiss. PPG pre-announced is going to miss the quarter big time because this company that makes so many paints coatings for luxury cars, see, soften demand, pretty much everywhere. Now I was this way to bit when CNBC's own filled with Bo reminded me that as long as consumer confidence remains high, we should be able to put up another really good year of car numbers or vehicles that say, however, the stocks of the industrials fell apart today off that PPG pre announcement in situations like this portfolio managers, here's what they do. And then they ask questions later Ford and GM by the way, hit new fifty two week lows, not reassuring many order related manufacturers. So their stocks get pummeled from dawn, kill dust, which full circle back to the fed. If all of these industries are having issues, if p p g which we learned tonight is a big position of the hedge fund trion Nelson partners, investment vehicle, if people is to be believed and there's absolutely no reason not then what the heck is the fed doing with this autopilot nonsense? How can these central bankers talk about the incredible strength of the economy without actually getting their hands dirty and talking to us, of course, host of different industries. I can tell you these executives are plenty worried that the fed has stopped doing its own checks. Again, this is not a moment like eleven years ago where the fed was dead wrong. About the economy and I had to shout from the rooftops, limber Nike got it wrong. Nearly destroyed the financial system pals making the same kind of mistake, but the consequences are far less quake. Thank heavens. We probably won't even get an actual recession, but the universe of companies that are doing well is growing smaller and this is mad money. I'm not here to be communist. I'm here to try to help you make some money, preserve your your capital. I wouldn't be so concerned if not for the trade war against China. I think the president's absolutely justified to go after the Chinese years and years of trading abuse, but context matters. It's one thing to have a trade war when the world economy's fire. It's something very different. If the world economy is sorry, something the IMF told us last night when it cut the global growth forecast from three point, nine percent point, seven percent for this year. Next, I thought that was a wakeup call that strong. Now. Employment may not be quite so strong six months from now. Oh, I'll little worried again. I'm not turning against the whole stock market. There's still plenty of areas that we can. Make a lot of money and Starbucks rallied today off the news. The Bill ackman took a major stake in the company more on that later, McDonald's docs doom wells asks for many of the drug company stocks, but that actually just plays to my fears. Those are the stocks that do well when the fed overshoots the economy slows down. Something to chairman palace is is a real possibility. The overshooting it is the bottom line, calming horses. I think we can go heart, but the stocks taking us higher are the wrong stocks. You believe the economy is in good shape there, the right stocks, if you believe, well, that right, and we could have fed mandated slowdown. I sure hope I'm wrong. But on a day like this, where we get some dire news from PG, I'm feeling right as rain, Brian and Texas, Brian. Jim, we Brian my questions about g g Goldcorp there were some protestors at blocked the mind, and that could have hurt production around the same time in July, the stock dropped by almost thirty percent with the market the way it is and gold cords commitment to environmentally friendly practices. Could this be where the stock turns around? You know what? I'm so fed up with the gold stocks. I like gold. I like GED. I'm a believer in gold. I think it's a good diversification, but the stocks have systematically let me now and I feel awful about recommending any of these. All right. How the stocks higher aren't, aren't this this stocks that should be going higher if he is really as strong as the fed and its acolytes telling you right now, I won't be a little cautious. It's okay tonight. My power rankings have just gotten started house, Amazon stack up against other consumer place. Hey, there's one I like I'm gonna be feeling then is it time to raid, poof, your investment portfolio? I'm telling you the ways to play any outcome in the rate. Bait during tonight's charts and is considered proximity Cottam and its shares just drop the most in nine years, although recovered after hours, what does the move and peeping Jimmy to the overall market I'm giving by so stick with Kramer. Don't miss a second of that money follow at Jim. Cramer on Twitter. Have a question. Tweet. Gramer has tag mad tweaks sin, Jim Email to mad money at CNBC dot com or give us a call at one eight hundred seven, four, three CNBC miss something Ed to med money. Dutt CNBC dot com. Rolling out power, rankings, free sector of the stock market, just like how gamblers use power rankings to gauge the strength of football teams. While teams actual win loss record tells you how it's done all season. The power rankings are designed to give you a sense of how it stacks up against the competition right now at this very moment and stockmarket terms, your stock performance is like your record. It's great if you own something. That's a big during the first nine months of the year, but pass reforms is not necessarily an indicator if you should sess. So in the Kramer power rank is being judged the members of each group by where we think they're going, not where they've been. Last time we started with the communication services Co. that weird agglomeration of phone carrier's cable companies, media place so that we're going to rank a couple more starting with the consumer discretionary sector, hey, by the way, that's just Wall Street, speak for the restaurants and retailers and many of the suppliers like the power companies. Now, the consumer discretionary group has had a real good year. In two thousand eighteen when employment is booming when the garments cutting taxes. At least on corporations, they don't people live in red states. You better believe the retailers and the restaurants are going to outperform in last days, though the group has lost some of its Mo-jo. These names got hard hitting the sell off. So as we head into the end of the year, which in the disclaimer discretion names can still hold up or at least the best place to be diversified portfolio that includes some discretionary will why don't we start by looking at the top performers? Because it's good to know what's been working in what they want all necessarily keep working, presumably enough. The top performer here isn't Amazon. It's advanced auto parts. I'm sixty nine percent. Amazon comes in second up, sixty percent a resurgent to pull them. You had them on last week, not too distant. Third, then there's TJ x. O'Reilly automotive under armor. Target Macy's, Kohl's Nordstrom, Nike, VF Corp, Ralph Lord. You get the idea, some restaurants, water change than a lot of department stores off price plays, you know, the usual. So where do these win. Or stand in the Kramer power rankings for the consumer discretionary space. We're not just gonna crip from what's working right now. We got to think bigger longer term. Well, Amazon may be the second best performer year to date. It's number one in our power rankings happened the retail deaths. Be anything else. Funnily enough. You're actually getting rare buying opportunity here. Amazon dominates every week 'til market. They get into their prime subscription service is essential, their web services division, unparalleled, and they're making more and more money from selling online advertising. Did you know that Amazon's already the number three player. Internet advertising just like web services did a few years ago. The ad business really kinda snuck up on investors. You can place in just where and when the customer's looking to make a purchase, that's hard to beat that the stock is pulled back. A hundred and eighty dollars from its recent highs. And historically Amazon sells off. It has turned out to be a buying opportunity every single time. Now maybe this time will be different, but I doubt it. Now there's Amazon continued terrific sales with the companies. Finally started deliver some fabulous earnings per share to for the last four quarters in a row, they've earned much much much more than anyone expected. Hey, last time it was five bucks and change something for two dollars fifty percents. The bookcase here was always that Amazon could turn on the potential Turner on the profitability spigot whenever they wanted to it just made more sense for the company to continue to spend the money, it needs for growth opportunities. Well, that strategy worked. I think the recent correction I'm calling it a gift. Second in the consumer discretionary power, rankings, TJ x. the parent of TJ Maxx, marshalls and Kramer Fave homegoods. Although I like I like them all. I was just TJ Maxx the other day. I just recommended the stock last week and I like the stock even more now that it's pulled back a bit from its recent highs for those of you who don't remember. TJ x belongs to the one week 'til category that seems to be somewhat immunized against Amazon the off price chains. That's why I've liked this for so long when to. Stores are desperate to get rid of their seasonal inventory that didn't sell so they can bring a new product. They sell it to companies like TJ for pittance. Then TJ x marks it up, sells it to you at a price that still much lower than where you find it anywhere else. The whole model ends up creating pivot, treasure hunt experience. So kind of add that episode of the Simpsons where Marge finds a massively markdown Chanel suit at a discount store. There's some data ship, but I think the numbers speak for themselves in the latest quarter teach x. delivered a six percent increase in same-store sales. You know, that's the key metric and that was much better than two point. One percent number that the analysts were looking for. They're practically Quing money, and I bet America's premiere off price chain is going to have a very good holiday season. How about number three? Okay. Kohl's k. assess the second best performing department store stock. It's a two thousand eighteen thirty one percent for the why Kohl's over Macy's Nordstrom, we've been fired this one for the chapel trust fall won't by joining the action plus dot com club, and I'll tell you why you want some traditional department store exposure going into the holidays this year between the strong job market and the job cuts. I think retail's about to have a merry Christmas. But again, why Kohl's because the value based chain has been making major self-improvement efforts. For example, they've gotten better inventory management bolstering the cross Morton's and Kozo as a bunch of new initiatives like smaller format stores and an actual part. With Amazon with the death star. They've got a pilot program where you can buy from the online behemoth and then return stuff vehicles, which strikes me as a brilliant way to generate traffic, especially given that you need to walk all the way through what's known as the race track of the store to reach the place where you can return your unblocks. Amazon wears the analysts forecasting flat same store sales in the fourth quarter. Thanks to strong comparisons from last year, and the stock has now pulled back, eleven bucks from its highs. Remember we're all worried about a slow down the economy. I still think you should call me a buyer next up. Fourth, the consumer discretionary power ranking is via th- Corp. Yes. The parent north face Jan sport and the red hot vans among a host of other brands. As I said before, I think fans alone is a huge opportunity for VF. See, they take an escape boarding shoe and turn into a lifestyle print at the same time. The company's about the spinoff, it's not so hot jeans business early next year. And last week they announced the sale. The reef sandal business. You know what? Here's what I'm thinking. Basically via Corp. Paring back its non-essential divisions and focusing on their very best brands, creating a lean mean earnings per sheet. The transformation will really start to kick in early next year, which is why I think the port makes so much sense here at the beginning of the fourth quarter. And I know it's run a lot, but you know what? It's changing his stripes in a positive direction. Number five finally is Nike until last week's big market wide selloff. Nike had been fire. The reason they figured out how to fend off the resurgent competition from Under Armour and Adidas by rolling a fabulous new products and selling them Personalizing him even directly to the consumer DC businesses proving I like Nike's last quarter, but the stock has pulled back five percent since then, of course, because of the overall market, turmoil and dip is worth buying, oh, and one more thing. It doesn't show up in the power rankings at all. But today we found out that Bill ackman the hedge fund managers taking a big position. Starbucks. I think it'd be a mistake to chase it appear after the announcement. But Starbucks is a well run company with huge bar back, and I think we'll have a good fourth quarter, but that means you. You have to look through what I think could be a very uneven. Third quarter, the bottom line. If you went exposure to the consumer discretionary space, going to the end of the urine, this is if you're very Boston economy, I'm starting to temper my views. You know, my favorites are Amazon, which works Weller in the slowdown. TJ x. also good to slow down, Kohl's discount or good bef. That's special situation and then Nike in that order. Let's go to Brandon in Pennsylvania, Brandon. From Philadelphia, Jim, good to see it, man. I'm going to be down there again. We just keep going Philadelphia and I love that. How can I help? So Jim, I wanted to diversified portfolio and I noticed that had lack any real substantial holding in consumer discretionary. Okay. As a as a twenty two year old college student, many of my friends are starting to go to casinos veil, and I figured instead of blowing my money at a casino roulette craps that I could invest in casinos instead. So I wanted your opinion on red rock resort ticker are, and whether you thought it was by given it has experienced April pullback in the last few days and it's seemingly insulated from Detroit were issues. They're going ordering. I can't talk out of that one in stocks down a lot I do and have been recommending pinnacle entertainment. Remember I share with you the antithesis toward owning a casino stock that as a major position in Macau, yours doesn't. But I think red rock is not as good as pen. Nicole entertainment, civil p. and k. knowledge people is power. If you're looking for the best of breed and consumer discretionary group, which is under a lot of pressure, I want you to look no further. The nays picks for the long term. All right, much money out of the thirty. Two consumer Staples names on the roughly two-thirds are negative her toward your date, but are they still winners in this basis or something with owning by power Reich's continue. Plus everyone's worried about what's next for interesting until housing. You protect your portfolio because ranks are what's on the line right now. And that's why we're going to chart and peeping me JD this pin an ugly picture when it comes to third quarter, I'm breaking down the company's top forecast and I'm not happy stick with Kramer. As we go through each sector laying out the Kramer power rankings to show you which stocks. I like most as we head into the end of the year, some who flew Netflix look a lot better than others. We just highlighted the tumor discretionary space, a retail, and that court had been on fire until the economy seemed to, let's say, run into a wall, I think because rates are going to fast. But the next sector responsible space has been very different. When we talk about the Staples referring to all sorts of packaged goods and stuff. This incessant think everything from toothpaste. Toilet paper, the food and beverages. These groups have been out of favor with the Wall Street fashion show, which is why two-thirds consumer staple stocks in the five hundred or actually down for the year. Oh, they've been hit with headwind after a head whenever rising transportation costs rising commodity costs, stronger dollar, and now higher interest rates which makes their bountiful dividends. Look a lot less enticing compared to bonds a theme that I will hit on your overhead again and. Again, so you know what's really going on under Neath the market. As I keep telling you, the Staples tend to get crushed. When rates are rising, I'll give you more on that later, but and this is a mighty big. But if the fed tightens tube, Wesley and ends up tipping the economy into a slowdown, what I'm really concerned about, well, you'll feel very foolish if you don't own any of these stocks. The Staples of the one of the few groups that tends to outperform when they caught to be gets weaker because these companies do not eat a healthy economy to make their numbers. You don't stop being just because the unemployment rate ticks higher do now. I'm not saying that that's definitely going to happen. However, it's a very real possibility. Given the Fed's recent language about overshooting when is trying to stop inflation. And this is why I'm always preaching the virtues diversification, even if you don't believe in the slowdown thesis, you should own at least one stock that can work if that thesis Poos to be true. And that means you might want some exposure to a group that nobody likes to the consumer Staples. So what are the power rankings for this beaten down group? When you look at. Consumer staple names that have been actually going higher short list and only seven of them at double digit gains with poop. Cormack the spice and condiment maker leading the pack, a three percent. Thanks to very smart acquisition. Next, there's ADM orchard tangles Midland, that's a crop processing company that makes tons and tons of corn syrup. Then we've got Cosco which falls into the Staples sector because Staples or most of what they sell Paul by the first soft goods name on the list church into white, which is up just eighteen percent rounding out the top five is Cisco a food service play. That makes more much more exposed to the restaurant in space. A lot of its strength comes from the fact that Tryon is been working hard to make it do better. That's no impels fund, and then we're going for which ones to be like the most. My top rank consumer staple stock didn't even make the top ten in terms of the year to date performance. Remember these power rankings, and I'm talking about s. t. z. constellation brands, the beer wine and liquor company best known as the US distributor of corona and Medella by the way, Victoria's. One that's really hot lately. Now constellations been involved traitor, ever since the company decided to take a major position in canopy growth. That's the best that Canadian cannabis producers. The one I think's gonna hold up the best after repeal and repeal of prohibition in Canada. In fact, the stock is down slightly your today. So how the heck does constellation end up at the number one spot of my power rankings because he's rankings. He's supposed to reflect where the stocks going, not where it's been Etta constellation doubled down on investment canopy. A lot of fun managers started fretting that this was a bad sign. Why would they put so much into marijuana? If the beer business was in good shape, it didn't help when the cut reported a couple of less than stellar quarters. However, constellation put those deserves respite reported last week and the stock exploded, higher terms outgrown Madala doing great. Oh, and while the marijuana stocks have been frothy in a little bit too hot for this guy, the farm Bill is currently being debated in congress. Could legalize can Nabet dial. That CBD of oil at the federal level and constellation would instantly be able to get into that business. I think the stocks ridiculously cheaper given that kicker, and there's a lot more room to run. Now I'm going to be speaking of constellations president about the cannabis pisses had teaching. I'm more United in this weekend and I'll report back Monday right before Candida fish legalizes pot later in the week, which is why been so focused on these people because it may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. But remember most of the things that are in their way too risky, we're trying to stay with the high end second. There's Cosco. All right. Cosco is one of my favorite places shot, but it's not like many of the others, consumer Staples names. This is a big box retailer with a terrific business model where you pay them feed, join the club and get the best deals. Basically, this is cryptic servicemen remember where we are in subscription, Connie. And as I've said, repeatedly joining Costco's one of the few spending decisions that I would guard as a total no brainer lease. And I've been fighting about taking a big Costco trip this very weekend because the eagles play. Thursday, and that means I have Sunday to go to Costco. Now the stock is powered twenty percent higher this year. Thanks to a string of very strong sales numbers. However, lately Costco's become a bit of a battleground again with the stock pulling back substantially in recent weeks is number Beatles, have turned on it. Then Costco reported last week in the stock got clobbered was hideous. Why? Mostly because the company told us that while they file when they file their report, they expect to report a material weakness in their internal controls the way that the information technology controls. Basically Costco's having it tech problem that impacts its financial reporting. But when you actually drill down and look at the numbers, you'll find a nice uptick in membership, renewal rates, members per store in sales per per member, all which were up versus the previous quarter. I don't think the IT issue which did not cause a restatement, which is what I most fear will be a big deal. And now the stocks down nearly nine percent from September highs IB at buyer here, careful. Some people think it's a big head and shoulders pattern. Now I point this stuff out because that's the. Better. Third, there's McCormick the best performance to the top dog in the spice industry. And last year they made this gigantic bet on condiments buying francs, red hot sauce and French's mustard from Reckitt. Ben Keyser at the time Wall Street was skeptical, but the deals turned out to be huge win. The stock is giving you some monster gains since the yo gorens Kersey as paid us visit last year to explain the acquisition convincing us it's worth and I bet it's got more room to run. Number four, my consumer statement, power rankings. Many people be from the with this from our constant interviews with this in tastic CEO and that's core ox. This is actually the only typical Staples play on my list. Cork's is a classic consumer packaged goods company with a solid two point, six percent yield. This is the kind of stock you buy when you're worried about the fed, mandated, economic slowdown that I am so concerned about that I've talked about for the last week, but why Clorox rather than say two others that are bigger Proctor and gamble, or this not as big, Kimberly Clark. What? Because this is. Tough environment for the soft goods names. And I trust Clark's is CEO Begnaud door to execute better than his rivals caught survival of the fittest. The company's gotten aggressive about cutting costs. And as a result, it stock is held up better than the other consumer packaged goods plays. Although it's still barely up for the year. Cortisol have been trying to raise price, and I think that will give them some nascent growth for twenty nineteen. So if you wanna protect your portfolio against a slow down, I think you could consider only some Clorox a great household name. Fifth. And finally, we've got one that I have tried to proselytize about because it's so well run, and that's Estee Lauder. Again, this is an outlier consumer Staples sector. Frankly, you could argue the cosmetic kingpin doesn't belong in this group, but for a lot of us make up his necessity these days. Well, let's talk is up ten percent for the. It's been held back by worries about the closure of a major distributor Bon ton stores and the fact that the company gets twelve percent of its sales from perhaps slowing China, even as Estee Lauder. Led by the fantastic, breezy, afraid that keeps delivering fantastic results. The stock just hasn't been getting the credit. It deserves and maybe that's the opportunity. It's been weak of late because the last quarter was not the usual blow out the bottom line. You need some exposure to the Staples for the sake of diversification, which you know we believe it will make money. However, we've interest rates can keep going higher. You might want to stick with atypical one like constellation brands, Cosco McCormack, and Estee Lauder, rather than a standard bomb. Market alternative like Clorox may have money is back at the. Last week, the Federal Reserve made it very clear that they're willing to overshoot when it comes to raising interest rates basically telling the world that they're going to tame inflation, whatever the cost in response, we've got that hideous. So off that lasted until yesterday since day bounce, but then resumed with the industrials today. So where do we go from here book? There's no doubt that long term interest rates. The ones that fed doesn't really control are in the driver's seat here. The question is, where are those rates actually headed? Like I told you last night. This market is three camps, three groups of money managers with very different worldviews, and they come out every day and they put money behind the world views. Now you got the recession. He says, who believe the fed chairman, Jerome Powell is doing the right thing and think is lockstep tightening because economic slowdown, though which ultimately push rates back down, then you've got the inflation nieces who we rates are too low because inflation is really raging here and in their view, the fed hasn't done enough. And then there's the third, the quick, the police rates Pinto, read. Eighty and the ready to go back down. So I think you need to plan for each camp, which is why tonight we'll take him over the pure approach, man, money. We're going off the charts with Bob Marino and Bob is a brilliant technician who happens to be my colleague, real money dot com. The paid side of the street dot com as well as being the publisher of right view trading dot com. We want to get a sense of what could happen under these three very different scenarios saying what the camp followers, your thing. So I what if the recession? Isa's right? And interest rates are older headed lower because the economy's about to go into a rut. That's what I'm so worried about. Check out this week metro, which plots the yield of twenty year treasury bonds against the performance of the SNP consumer Staples ETF the x. l. p. now if he's out, you can see that over the last twenty years. Long term treasury yields have gone steadily lower. Okay. So you can see this is the twenty year that's long-term treasury yields at the same time. The consumer Staples have an almost perfect in. Reverse. No, it's opposite inverse. Correlation when treasury yields go lower the soft good stocks go higher. So off good. And there's the treasury's okay, especially since the great recession got going, this is really been definitely definitely. Let's say stark. This is why I'm always telling you that the Zuber package could plays her bomb market equivalent. That's the term I use their high dividends means that bonds are their competition. Some investors simply want a nice steady yield with relatively low risk. They'd rather get that that from bonds, bright because they don't have a lot of risk and treasury's by the way, a risk free of. But for years now, bonds have been paid out enough to be an attractive option. Remember they don't have a capital preciado stream just the income stream. So the Staples and treasuries have always been position, but Marino points out that this negative correlation really excel rated in twenty eleven when the yield on the twenty year drop below three percent. Suddenly the consumer staple stocks quickfire in a major way, even though the growth tends to be anemic. The Staples index has more than doubled in the last seven years. Because for most of that time, the bomb market competition was practically non existent. I've told you how this dynamic works before, but it's still kind of stunning. You see it Wade out and visual form like this isn't it? I mean to me when I saw this, we got to do this off the charts. This is really, really cool. Hey, now marinas concern because earlier this year, the twenty year cost back above the three percent line. And that's where here you can see that. Okay. And is currently if people in two nine percent? Sure enough. When that happened, the staple started getting slam. Although in the past few days, they've rebounded somewhat in giving base head headed. Still higher marinas chart works. Leave you in no doubt that the consumer Staples are going to get poleaxed. But what if the recession he says a right about fed mandated, economic slowdown, pushes long-term rates right back down. Rena says that if long-term mates go back below three percent, then the consumer Staples and utilities all the slow and steady bond market alternative stocks can go higher again. And when it comes to the stables Renner things. She should take a look at the daily chart of a stock that I'm not going to recommend because this is the backstop, but lets him do the talking here. The daily chart, a Philip Morris, International global tobacco company itself, Marlboros and host of other brands overseas. Okay. And this PM see, we're looking at here felt more sports abound full five for five point, four percent yield. So it's exactly the kind of bomb market alternative stop. We're talking about your ram points out that the stock has been stuck between seventy four and seventy six for the past few months. And you can see that look at this. It's kind of interest right thought Moore's though has been forming, Stockton, forming forming in verse head and shoulders formation. It's like an upside down person, right? And this is one of the most reliably bullish patterns in the chart book will then there's the moving average convergence divergence. That's the oscillators up top. Okay. It's also known as the CD. It's a powerful momentum indicator that helps technicians detect changes in the stocks. Victory. Most importantly, before they happen if it's Quinson, what could that to right Weiner notes that just made a Bush crossover, boom. You see this a boss crossover last month and it's been worrying higher and other positive development. Plus we talked to Mark Marquette, a lot chicken money flow, which measures the level of buying and selling pressure. It went very positive in August. Okay. You can see this right and stayed that way for a while and short Renner. Thanks. There's a lot of buying interest in Philip Morris International. So we see this. We had this and we do this and we get a positive story. Now back in April, the stock gap down from ninety six to ninety. Okay. You can see this. It's currently trading at just under eighty five right here. If won't term interest rates start going lower Reno, police. Philip Morris could rebound back to ninety and then quickly fill in this gap that bef- Ilian the gap that would take it up to here and perhaps even heart. But remember that's a Mitee big. By the way, the same goes for most of the other bond market equivalents from the sooner packaged goods stocks to the Tonys. These talks will catch fire. The economy slows and bond yields go back down. That's what I was. So afraid of today when I saw stocks like McDonald's going har-, those are not the right kinds of stocks if you think this could meet economic expansion. But what if the inflation nieces are right and long-term rates keep rising within the banks and one of the few groups that wins, because when longer-term rates go higher, the financials can charge you more for loans. Something that really need to do with the fed boosting short-term rates, which those determine what the Bank pays you for your deposits. So check out the daily chart of city group letter c. mayor points out that city's been making higher highs and higher lows since Jew. Okay. So you see this pattern. With the action forming a rising channel. At the same time Sydney, short-term fifty day moving average jets, and that is the red just crossed above its long-term two hundred average. The blue and this is like the holy grail of technical analysis. They caught the golden cross, and it's typically a sign that a stock is definitely hit. It harder still sitting that some resistance in the stocks currently cooling, its heels in the low seventies, you see how it got up here and now it's kind of marking time right there. But if long-term rates keep climbing Rena believes that resistance will be broken and this talk will roar his only real concern. What's the cumulation distribution like down here which tells you whether big institutions are buying or selling, and it is failed to keep pace with the move actually going lower as city stock rally, however, thinks that that change that will change if rates continue to go higher. I don't have that level of conviction, frankly, finally, the, what about the moderation scenario? What if long-term rates. Stabilize year. If that's the case, Reno argues that the home homebuilders wow. Talk about down in the home builder's should finally make a comeback. These talks have been stinking up the joint, the group's down, roughly twenty percent for the year because everyone knows that housing gets crushed when mortgage rates become too expensive. You even had Lenore talking about a pause in the housing market last week, Denver, once the hottest market in the country is freezing over, but a freight stabilize Reno thinks that Wall Street may actually be willing to circle back to the home Gorce because it means their worst fears may not materialize. And that case, which one does he like? Well, he takes in looks at the weekly chart of d. r. Horton, which has been one of the better performance and allows goup he points out that the stock is right above its floor of support. This is amazing because I couldn't find a single good thing about this as a floor that was successfully retested last week and afraid stabilize. He can see Horton rallying back to it's silly of resistance at forty six. Now, here's the bottom line. The charts. Has interpreted by Bob arena suggests that you wanna buy the soft goods stocks life, Philip Morris, if bond yields go lower and you want to buy the banks like city if they go higher and you might be consider o.'neil homebuilder they simply stabilize right here. Remember we own city for my travel trust which can follow won't by joining the actual plus dot com cloud and the big bang reports on Friday warning man, monies back to the break. It is. Mandalay. Rounds over. Are you ready? Stig. On my way. Let's talk with cameras on a Cam. Permai Janet, Kim from Arizona. I was just calling what your thoughts are on. That's that would signal to remember seeing literally thirty points though came on the show and it's explain that. And I said. Well, come on. Let's go to Carmen in Connecticut. Carman. Hey, Jim, how are you? Good. How about you? Corman to thank you so much for taking my call my question, a grandson is graduating high school in June. We were thinking 'cause I was thinking of starting a stock portfolio fries. It's out gift them. I had lucky Martin in mind. I was kind of going in the area of defense wanna know what you Lockheed Martin. I want you to do Raytheon. Lockheed Martin's already moved to breakdowns lie. Let's go to Chris crass going surfing. The Lenin ten thousand league. There you go. What's going on? Nothing. I got a high margin, high growth stock called amorous AM are. I don't know it. I don't know. It got to come back is a company that I'm not sure about how take more. Let's take one more. Let's go to Michael in Florida. My call jimbo's from Naples, Florida, good place. What's up? Hey, Jim Cohn about. Byu, thicker symbol out. We love those guys since the beginning of the show, and I have to tell you, I still think the by visit them and. The visit them in Twitter search while that went to our good, and that includes it up. Is sponsored by TD Ameritrade. We didn't talk about PPG, especially chemical company, a us, maker paints coatings really boost. Whack us last night. Which is why the stock plunged ten percent today in regular trading. As I told you earlier, PG is important. I is the obvious thing company put out a note yesterday morning that talked about escalating costs for materials, freight and labor. Not so hot, I know, but then released the whole thing under a simple headline of its own devising quote, PPG announces global price increase for automotive OEM coatings and quote that headline they coming press released, never talked about demand, accepting the following phrase, quote, this price increase is vital to sustaining our history of innovating means next generation solutions and enhancing our ability to continue to me demand. The statement seem very clear to me. The company could put through all the price increases that needs because the demand I product is through the stock rallied nicely news. Obviously, others felt the same way I did. But boy, was that ever role if the coast PG told us what I think is at different story. Companies should to full blown negative. Pre-announced management says will earn a buck forty one to forty. Five wolster was looking for a buck fifty nine. Ouch. And for the next quarter, they're forecasting just dollar three, two dollars. Thirteen. Well, below the dollars thirty, two number. The analysts were expecting. The culprit PG told us that and I quote we saw overall demand in China, soften and we are experiencing weaker automotive refinish levels as several of our US and European customers are carrying high inventory levels due to lower end use demand and quote, oh man, that's brutal. Remember just that morning. These guys have been talking about the need to continue to meet demand. What the heck happened between eight AM when it put out that first release about the price increase and four forty nine PM when we preannounced nasty townside view. Honestly, it's amazing that until last night PG hadn't hurt been hurt as badly as a lot of the other auto suppliers, but what's even more studying? He's just how wrong this company was about. What lay ahead. I know it's been nearly three months peachy gave us some insight into the future on its last. Conference call and Wall Street terms. That's a lifetime ago still, though that call management expressed a lot of optimism about the auto industry. Here's what's CEO. Michael mcgarry had to say surprisingly, the OEM automotive had a good first half of the year slightly better than expectations. And we see no reason why the second half won't continue. The only negative they're of course, is whether or not people were trying to buy a head of the tariffs. So we won't know that just yet and quote, could there have been by a head mcgarry simply didn't know was crystal ball that bad to the change in tone between yesterday's press release and pronounce him. Nothing would surprise me, but these guys, one thing's for certain any company with any exposure to the auto industry or the price of wealth for that matter, not to mention strong dollar and the rising costs. Transportation will now be considered to be something that should be held for sale unless proven innocent. That's what these numbers from PG meet. It turned whole swaths of this market toxic from the get-go today, the industrial stock week. This can be traced right back to PG the saving grace. The company didn't blame housing aerospace to other important businesses. Although the former was already ding and lows drop PPG's Olympic brand paints and stains just last February. That was terrible this week. This seems to be about the orders. It's also terrible, but last that's the really so only saving grace. I can think of that. It was about the orders, especially as the tariff situation with China's only got worse and Europe slowed even more since the quarter ending. In other words, if you think these numbers are bad, just you wait because it can get worse and I bet a whole host of industrials turned out to be a lot more like PG than we'd want, which is why I'm so worried about what the fed is doing owing, yes, the close we found out that Nelson peltz's took a v, six hundred ninety million dollar stake in PG. That's his trion business, and that's at twenty three billion dollar company. So let's not think that much is going to change. I don't know what will happen here with pelts. And with p g the company says, it looks forward to maintain you healthy dial on me. I just wish it's business. We're healthier stick with Kramer. Rallies, put hope he's shouldn't be part of the investing equation. I just went to bed that not be lockstep. Coin guys supreme economy is not that strong to be able to handle all those rate hikes, hey, because it's true. Like say, there's always Morgan summer, I promise not to find it just for you right here, man, money. 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Part 1:Tony Allevato

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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Part 1:Tony Allevato

"Sirius xm forts raises with steve. Big horse racing handicapping interviews. This is steve very good. Friday race bans series to nineteen. Xm to sports on nine sixty four listening to siriusxm online at our website. Steve dot com first friday in this in december that particularly what's particularly unique or special. But this you know. I'm sure i'm sure for somebody first. Friday in december means something. I don't know it's got to be something. I'll look that up later. I'll see what i can figure out what the date means got significance. I can tell you that it's the start of the the nhc winter challenge. I mentioned this the other day when kevin kilroy was gonna join us to talk about his qualifying and in fact i just reached out to keith. sham. I might have a window for keith this hour. 'cause i really wanna go through those details again and there's a lot is a lot going on actually in that so And if. I can't get keith. I'll be sure to give you the details again and of course it's all in anterior dot com slash nhc Nice weekend You know we're we're going to set the stage. I think for the winter and you. Whether it's you know aqueducts and of course we got the cigar mile tomorrow. Plus the two year olds going around ground. The my own the eighth and and more Looked at sunday to sunday. Got three stakes on sunday. Couple of got the stallion series and the garland of roses and got the great one. Starlet out at la salle. Steve anderson at the end of the show today as promised. We'll get a little little. Visit him with stephen fact the strong strong lineup of Strong lineup of the aref correspondent guests. Mike welsh as well at gulfstream. Of course got gate the their second day of racing in yesterday and continue today tomorrow the claiming crown and you know the claiming crown really industrywide. I it has been a big success and has had a you know a a terrific history The origins at Canterbury right canterbury. And actually they moved it right. They moved in a couple of times. I think the alison. Alice ran one. Did ellis run one. I think so but now you know having this home at gulfstream With this you know early winter season first. Saturday has really kind of become a launching point for the winter. And then you you know. It's their starter their starter snakes starter allowances essentially but They fill up. I mean the conditions provide For pretty pretty interesting. Assemblies of of talent that Over the years is been a pretty productive day. When you're trying to find you know. Find pressure to remember that period when a crazy period where ken ramsey would gather up horses every year to have an assault on the on the claiming crown And lucia to right right pay. Lucci has made a habit of putting together a lineup and coming at it too. So we'll get mike welcome and There's also a couple of main races on that card tomorrow early. I think the first and the third tomorrow. And there's some notable couple of notable pedigrees and in fact if you recall from the summer the last time we talked to brian lynch. I'm going to turn the pages here here. We go the last time we talked to brian. Lynch remember we went through. He went through a unbelievable litany of two year olds. Well one of them. That came up debuts tomorrow in that first race This would be kariba. Be mocha the uncle mo daughter. Amerman home bred out of coffee. click. Then i don't know you know don't necessarily is is ready to pop at a mile zone the grass and i don't know if she's ready to pop i out lynched and certainly win with a first stor. That's not the issue Jazz really been flashy in the morning. She's been steady and there's a long string of works going back to the summer but this is one of those there. Were about eight or nine. And i i did tweet. I'll try to dig tweet up to get the rest of them. But you'll remember lynch absolutely was raving about his two year olds Made a point. you know. Sometimes it's hard for me to get them all down or go back and check There's also graham ocean has got a flaxen home home-bred panja proxima this temple city out of enthused making this philly a half to threat of blue and member e. Ea got to be almost ten years ago. This mayor has got to be getting those. She's by seeking. The gold is definitely getting up there in years so if laxman debut in here and gestapo gado claimed a by nyquist the philly and it's pretty interesting that this philly was even offered up three different times for fifty and forty. But this is a nyquist philly out of livy mackenzie she. You know she hasn't really done a lot yet. She's been down in south florida from the start but time sensitive and the pope and his team very good off the claim. I mean very good. So that's that first race and there's also since we went into this. I don't know if i've got time to cover this with later with with welsh in the third race. You're looking for pedigrees how. 'bout chad and seth clermont voter protection and this is a colt by more than ready. Ocala stud bread and was an ob s april purchase. This is a half to musical romance at to forevermore voter protection stretches out after a couple of sprints one off the turf in one on the turf belmont And there's also a pretty sassy pedigree that graham ocean has in the third to. This is some o- uncle komo colt professor mcgonagall and an alex campbell. Home-bred that is sibling to its teatime. Ultra brad so in addition to the claiming crown activities. There's also there's also some nice maiden specials and really there's there's good made special action nationwide los al. I mentioned yesterday with bob marino. Cow breads and open company on either side of the starlet Virtually everywhere you look. There's three of them at tampa and i should mention. I don't know if we're going to get to this. And but i don't know i probably get a chance to handicap. It does feel like there's a couple of pretty obvious players in the two stakes at tampa. They're going to run the inaugural very early on the card as the third race. Smallish field And arrest me. Read very interesting in here for the jacksons and are no delacour coming off the win aqueduct in the atlantic beach. But he's going to try the main track. That's the interesting part. Pioneer the nile. Out of mayor she read five to to actually poppies pride Micheal yates who's on a three race win streak the stone hedge people to one favorite and is you know. Got a string of of dirt performances. So he got to take a referendum on arrest me read moving to the main track and then in the girls race. The sandpiper for the two year olds in here. Who did i see that. looked imposing. There was somebody that At a glance seventy percent has got a windstar. Stablemate i out winner from indiana A union rags philly gulf coast but there was somebody else in here that i could sworn caught my eye and i'm drawing a blank. Guess maybe well mike campbell campbell in with an intimate philly feeling mischief to to. Yeah i guess. I guess those were the two. Those were the two principal. So anyway you got tampa today Tomorrow and The other stake action that we might not have a lot of time for. But i do want to make people aware you've got the maryland bred stakes juvenile championship stakes at laurel and these are fun because they bring in from different parts of the country. If there's anybody Like for instance run it shows up with a keeneland first. Our winter maxine taproom. You might remember from october. And this is a bourbon. Courage that happens to be a maryland bred. So maxine taproom hooligan. Toledo's going to ride four to one you've got a couple of others. Tim hills comes down from jersey. And from new york with liam's missy. This was a country. Life product the fetch ninety. Two thousand two monia tedesco racing with tim hills. And then there's a lot of locals. trump data with the clips and sal cumin that miss nondescript won the maryland million lassie Rodney jenkins in here. How about the jerry. Rob with Jerry rob actually. I saw a st luke air. It is the street magician The bowman's by the way Dr and mrs bowman as well as brooke. Also dr roman they. They've got a bunch of horses. I saw three or four and so this country life actually got quite a few. That are bred of this maryland juvenile filly championship and the boys race Asmussen comes in with jackson travelers horse that toby sheets looks after in. New york broke the maiden pimlico and then came down to laurel and romped to for to colt jackson traveler. Four to five with rosado the sticking with But i wanted to make sure didn't want that to to slip through the cracks so tampa and laurel stakes as well as the the the new york florida and california venues that That will go over a little bit more detail. Let me tell you who we're going to go over with. I mentioned steve anderson. And mike welsh and dave granik dave greg probab- around the top of the hour told you jay when jay was with us the other day jay on holiday for a couple of weeks and you can wish him. Happy birthday on monday. Hammer of course will check in with hammer. And i i'm going to. I don't know could speculate. I guess that We go over the the oaklawn calendar giveaway not this week next week. It's usually usually the first or second december show that we go into the specifics So we'll see if hammer wants to do that Some news actually on that topic And i'm sure we'll get to it with steve anderson to the announcement came yesterday regarding golden gate. They're going to basically table things. Let everybody get their quarantining. don you know given the situation particularly in california They're going to hiatus until boxing day. They won't resume racing a go at golden gate until the twenty sixth. If you didn't see this Not you know not that Anybody wanted to have this happen but the reality is it's a big boost for bob merano and the team at los out Essentially you know anybody that has got horses ready to run here the next the next fortnight They can come down to low. Sal so Based on what we discussed with with marino yesterday at it really feels like los out will have good field sizes and strong carts through their. You know their their brief A little intermezzo between dell marin and the resumption of racing at santa anita on the twenty sixth. So we'll slip that water to slip that in Scully we'll get the scully In our to nick tammaro top of our three saw. Plenty of handicapping specifics. With james and with neck and what Oh are for actually i guess. Then he's going to join us in just a couple of minutes. Tony alvarado from the york racing association and with the the last you know full tv production then. none of. It's not an all day affair tomorrow but the broadcast of cigar mile day and going to wrap up you know the the extra large production that we've come to really enjoy and i don't know if you saw bobby y'all wrote a an extensive recap of of the year And what it meant. And i going to basically you know kind of touch on those highlights with tony and been a couple of years. I think Yeah go back to last summer Might have been the summer before that the last time we talked to tony but seven hundred and seventy seven hours of coverage that What is going to be on fox. By the time the the broadcast the year is over and it has been really important for the business pure and simple And you know. It's one of those scenarios where that much television coverage is just good for everybody and you know they. They forged partnerships with one racetrack after another Depending on the on the season and who was running you know given the you know the unusual scenario But you know oaklawn and we just finished up what this nice churchill run Woodbine was featured With some some cross country pick five tie ins as well and it. It's just been a trait essentially to have what amounts to a network saturday broadcasts day after day And particularly when there was so little other television to occupy and sports at the occupation of us that are true believers. We're gonna watch racing you know where pandemic or no pandemic but you know for people that were that were curious and and just were spinning the dial looking for something to engage them on an athletic endeavor as tony Black explains it These shows were were. God said in fact. Tony oliva is standing by tony. Good morning good morning. How you doing today. Excellent and just There's actually a perfect. The intro and i don't know how much of it yard but just was just just saying that in looking back i mean this would have. This has been a success now for a couple of years but looking back under these difficult circumstances it what was achieved was pretty remarkable. I that you know when we look back we we won't be when we look back ten years now looking back now already at just what. The racing industry has done. And i'll pivoted naira and the shows in a second but just the fact that racing was able to keep the show when i say the show. I mean horse racing. The the the show went on during a time when literally no other sport was operating. And we were the only game in town and you know for for decades racing has been criticized for always playing catch up and you know just being behind eight ball and this was one time that and then in a very critical time that the entire industry really stepped up. Whether you're talking about the people on the backstretch who you know under Incredible conditions came to work everyday. Took care of these horses. That are the lifeblood of our industry To the race. Track operators you tv network partners and i'll fox tv nbc And and the the the players who supported horse racing in a big way during that time. It's pretty remarkable. So you know for us we are we being nyerere. We were just really blessed and fortunate to have put in place a lot of things that had us ready not than we ever anticipated. Something like this would happen. But we had the ability to Produce the shows and It's a remarkable cheated by the the naira. Tv team was know the support from fox that they were able to do. Do the job day out during the pandemic at a time when we weren't even racing. I remember there. Was you know we were doing. The shows out of equinox. That tv truck was based because when the pandemic started we were raising at and we got the word that would be converted into a standby army hospital for the pandemic so we literally had to move the tv trucks which is a pretty big process in twenty four hours and moved to belmont and get set out to do shows the next day at belmont and You talked about the number of hours and you say seven hundred whatever. It is eighty five hours after saturday that we have done this year. That's up from three hundred and eighty five hours last year so we doubled him hours and keep in mind. You know we've worked closely with the state and Safety health department to make sure that our employees had the best working conditions in the safest working conditions so we doubled the ours with probably half to sixty percent of the staff that we would normally have on these on these shows. So you know I'm the one doing the interview. But the people who did all the hard work where the talent producers directors camera operators. Those people really did an unbelievable job. not just for an ira but as you mentioned and a fracking came on for these other tracks that we were able to showcase during a time when the lot of people were teeny looking for live sports and we were the only game down. We'll go through some of the numbers and they're they're amazing particularly on a per race basis given how much of the season we lost than and i think. In retrospect people won't even they. They won't believe that there was eighty days. Essentially that that was lost in new york before governor cuomo kind of relented and allowed The the racetracks throughout the state to you know to reboot but in the meantime the the you know the activity Had already was well underway on your end. I talk about the talk about the execution and we watched. I think a lot of people watched you know full-sized networks to struggle with the remote tie-ins With the you know the patches from their personnel and that you know that to me was a had to be an added element to to the intricacy of this you know to be patching in gary stevens and jonathan and whoever was you know whoever was remotely stationed and you know look You talk about people industries stepping up You know for the longest amount of time. We were actually doing the shows. We were host our talent we were hosting fum santa anita and the x. btv studios so aidan butler with kind enough to allow us to do the shelves from their days when we weren't even able to show santa anita because of their contractual commitments To another network. So you know you know. They stepped up and did what was right for horse race. Even even if they didn't directly benefit from it The allowed us to operate from there. And then you know we had you know once we were back at belmont and we. We had gary you know his home. We had you know different times at tom. Amos and his home in in louisiana. We had jonathan kinchen in austin. You know we had people all over the place and just you know really find a way to make it work and you know we've seen it with other productions like you mentioned it's not the only ones and and We were Just fortunate enough to do it. And i think that i think television viewers have become. Were very patient during the pandemic and and understanding that you know the the level of production there was gonna be a little bit of a technical drop off and you know So we had any sitting on his couch and with an ipad in front of him and headphones on. And you know and people were forgiving. And and you know we. We tried to make the shows as good as possible and make it feel like you're watching a regular show But it was definitely a challenge. It came off beautifully. Talk a little bit about the the integration particularly with your role. I mean you. You've got a handful. Ats ira bats. And the marketing aspects of the naira product Talk about the integration of naira bats into this ad because you know how somebody that campaigns new york breads it it it has to be stressed how valuable wagers through. Naira bets is to the purse accounts and the and the contribution. I you know i i. We got great respect for all the bricks. Bricks and mortar. Entities are are are obviously to me the the you know the number one interest in the game and you know we understand the you know the betting platforms that that aren't necessarily tied to a racetrack but that's through naira. Bats means a lot more to the game. And let's be frank. Well i just put it in. Layman's terms i mean. Obviously you know every dollar. That's bat on a horse race. Money comes out of that. Some of it goes winners. And then the rest of it used to fund the industry whether it steps to pay for The race track operator. The purses at the horses are running from. There's money to goes goes there and it's split up different ways and You know with nyerere bats when you're when you're betting when you're new york and you're betting on ira bed your in your customer. You're betting on line with us. It's the same as an on-track bad. So that there's the highest percentage of money's going back to the industry When you when you're in new york and you play with nyra bats and ignite support and the other thing is get an irish. Naira is a not for profit so you know we are here to ensure that horse racing Not only continues but succeeds far beyond the mount of time our here but for decades to come and so all the decisions that were making at the new york gracing association are based on a what is going to help us long-term with the sport. And what's the right thing to do for the sport and for the so when we started naira bats Four years ago outside of new york. We're playing catch up. Because you know there were major players on the advanced deposit wagering scene and we play catch up and we were fortunate that we were able to Have great partners like msg in state and fox sports out of state and you know when you have an idea for a program and you have to have buy from people so when you had people like Mike multi hill fox executive there is level. Ups goes according producer for the world series and nfl. They're behind what we're doing supporting what we're doing that you know that. Believe in what we were trying to do really allowed us to To succeed and even through the growing pains of first starting off and all along our goal was to do what you said. And i really appreciate the compliment. It was to make people feel like they were watching a network broadcast of horse racing on a daily basis but best compliment that we ever is when people believe that fox's producing the show's not naira and Obviously we have a lot of input from fox and they've helped us and they they do a lot to ensure that shows the heights production level. But it's really a great compliment so you know all that has really played into the success of of naira bats and the ability for horse racing and horse racing new york know finger. Lakes is one of the tracks featured on the shows this year so imagine finger lakes being on national television. What a thrill that was for them. You know if it's really allowed us to take a bad situation and make it as as positive as possible from a racing standpoint and keeping the business going. Well the numbers. I mean just to give not that People are all that concerned with the with the specifics but on a per race basis. I mean if you talk the raw dollars basically was you know one point seven billion versus two billion This is through the end of november. Essentially but eh on a per race basis which is a fairly you know. Fairly benign way to You know try to evaluate it. I mean at the sales companies have had trouble this year trying to equate. You know what's been accomplished Versus previous years but The reality is you're looking at Essentially a looks like twelve to fourteen percent per race increase in handle. Yeah and i think that's really a positive thing. I mean the betting. Was you know especially when you look at like in april and may the amount of dollars that were being bad were just unbelievable because of the lack of competition. But you know there's two things going on here one was about survival and Getting through a very difficult time but also how positioning ourselves for the future and I can't about the other Events deposit wagering companies beck and say it and naira bats the customers that we signed up during that time which we know for a fact we're lower level customers. People that were lapsed fans or casual fads that had come over to horse racing because of the type of offer that they took the sign up offer. You know we have these two hundred. Two hundred fifty dollar offers these people. We're taking twenty dollar offers to open account but the people that signed up for our lowest introductory offer eighty percent of them came back and redeposited with real with real money In addition to the free money we gave them and those people are still playing. And it's that's an a to me. That bodes well for the future of horse racing. These people they came into our store so to speak and started playing they They stuck around when other sports came back and now it's giving us the opportunity to expand market. Which has been shrinking For so long or demographics gotten older horse racing and now we've got an opportunity was with sports betting on the horizon to hopefully get people engaged in horse racing so only it's only alabama with us From naira talking about the season of america's day at the races and saratoga live and one more nice. I show tomorrow for cigar mile before everybody takes a breather. And there's a couple of things that you touched on doni that i i'd love you to expand There's there's the debate around the industry and and particularly people that watched the numbers that have said that You know essentially the the ws are are competing for Either the same pie or a steadily shrinking pie as opposed to trying to grow the business. And i'd love to talk about that retention and you know either customers coming horse players coming back to the game But also integrating the placing of frankly the the takeout issue and it a structuring. Wagers that Players help them keep their bankroll alive longer. And you know this is. This is how we're going to gain new customers especially in a shifting landscape that is going to have sports betting you know ultimately nationwide and You know we're we're an expensive bet. And how do we. How do we make that work out in the marketplace. I mean look it's you know. Obviously you know The brick and mortar is. He has to be sustained if everything shifts to online wagering. We've got to make sure that the model works and that the The bricks bricks and mortar. Businesses are able to function on a daily basis and really that varies from state to state. There's different margin different rates that people are getting paid from state to state. And you know We're you know we're always looking at that. And and making sure that the models correct and i think it's going to be tweaked a little bit here in the future to ensure that you know we're doing what's right by racing i don't you know i think that if you look at what the wsb don i mean. There's been a lot of innovation that's come out and they're you know they are marketing in trying to reach Reach out to some new fans and they've given a platform for people. Look where would we be. If we didn't have any w is one way to look at it. Where would we be. If we didn't have you know multiple networks televising shows. I mean it would have really been the end of our industry so we're very fortunate but we also do have to be have some caution and Check check airplanes. We look at the model and how the money shifts and what it means for the industry and there's look people are smarter than me that are paying attention to make make sure that it's going to work but but ultimately we have to ourselves. i think So that we can be ready for for what's coming in the future with sports betting and you know and like you said that the important thing is always be aware of the players because you know we're competing against other Businesses that are other sports where you know people are playing football games it's a. It's a different kink outright but we all know. That horse racing has the You know the best opportunity from gambling standpoint. Compared to sports betting. I always tell people. Look you better football game. And you're betting one hundred ten dollars to one hundred or you can bet on a horse racing bet ten dollars to one hundred give us a a bit of a survey or or preview of Of what. I'm sure they'll be during the offseason. A extensive extensive evaluation of of of the production from all the different vantage points. But talk a little bit about what you would like to do. Moving forward. and what kind of Elements can be introduced What what can be tweaked. How do you mattia see the productions evolving going forward and keeping people engaged. You know the thing about Practicing life television is All tv producers are in the quest for to produce the perfect show and it's unachievable And in fact when you think you've done the perfect show you go back and watch it a few weeks later a month later and you realize i would done this different indefinitely so it. It's what keeps everybody in television. Going and We never rest on our laurels. We know we have a long way to go. The shows can get much better Everybody on the team. While we're very proud of her work. We want shows to be as good as possible. And you know we look at our. Our competition is other sports Not just other people televising horse racing. So we're when we look you know we look at what things that are being done in other sports and if you watched saratoga live at america's eighth races saw some of the things that we did with the virtual lane so that when there was an inquiry or was drifting out you can see exactly how many patents force when you're out on the head on You know we we. We incorporated you know a plane shooting overhead during The run apple travelers day. So we're looking at everything. We're looking at drones. We're looking at whatever new technologies out there. Different camera angles We also want to be careful not to make some of these cuts to jarring so that people lose track of where the horses are but we we feel like technology is something that we want to incorporate as much as possible of the shows We we always wanna be at the forefront of that from the racing standpoint. that's where fox comes in and really helps us because they're you know they're doing off. Nfl college basketball college football baseball regular basis. There are things that they're doing that they're able to bring to the table that we normally would not have access to and so we. We're looking at those kinds of things for two thousand twenty one and most importantly for us and it's kind of what separates our shows from some of the other shows that are on. Tv is us press are. It's all about quality not quantity of races on our shows. And you know we like to tell stories. We tell the stories of the people on the backstretch we want to. We want to. You know really encourage ownership because as much as a horse shortage in the country. Now we think there's an ownership short and we really want part of the ownership experience to be. Hey when you come to the races. It doesn't matter if you have a ten thousand dollar clamor or you're running in a million dollar as it was shot. You're getting national. Tv and that just makes it a better experience for those of us who have owned horses. I have horses and it's a roller coaster. It's great when they're running and they're winning and when they don't run for three months and you're paying those bills it's it's tough and so any every little thing can make a difference to that experience of owning a horse and that's one of the things that we're really trying to capitalize from a horse player standpoint. You know we're really looking at what we can do with. And how we could find a way to do tournaments on a more regular basis and get players involved and get them on the shows and let them be part of that because It's also very good experience for them. So those are the kinds of things that we're looking at it. It's always gonna be volving. We're going to try new things. Not everything's gonna work But hopefully you know. Hopefully the show will continue to improve and it's really again. It's a credit to the people who are working on these shows. Day in and day out and the talent that do All these things in and really have made an eye red sox look at you know you mentioned just the team of people that that are behind the scenes and essentially made this happen and You know all the you know all the leg work The pre-production that that then gets fed in As as part of the broadcast gotta talk about the on air talent as well because this. This is a grueling undertaking and not to take away from from anybody that does work in front of the camera From a studio sat. This was a little different. And i it it i from so many aspects tony because obviously keeping track of the new york racing and handicapping the cards and you know doing the kind of work that You know that. For instance andy puts in And have to be prepared. Everybody puts in but then to have to quickly adjust and and be prepared to talk about races from venues that they weren't necessarily following all that much to the dive into those those churchill cards for the last six weeks and immediately latch onto the story lines and everything that's happening at other circuits. It's a challenge and From that standpoint it you know it was. As seamless everything else that was spilling out into the into the homes and and computers. Yeah listen in if you look at. What's being done on television from horse racing standpoint and i'm gonna include i. I love our talent talent. We have the best group of announcers analysts out there. In terms of you know and i put him up there with any sport but in just in general if you look at between you know talk shows. Tv nbc's doing and now that we're seeing sports betting Coming around and people starting to focus some of their efforts on these pre in these pre game shows and talking on and studios and talking about sports betting you can really see the difference in terms of how far ahead horse racing is compared to these other Other sports it's it's literally nine-day people watch a pregame show and get a you know ten second Reporter update from kansas city. And they see it snowing and they go running bet the under because they think they've got some kind of a competitive advantage because they just saw that and and It's dead if you're watching The saratoga library. Qarase's you'll hear maggie telling you in paddock. She's looking at a horse. Whose three to five on the turf and the horse doesn't have a turf and the need to wait and bet this horse and the horse runs on the dirt and that's the kind of stuff you can't get by looking in the racing form and so horse racing is so far ahead and then when you talk about people like andy surly jonathan kitchen and what the work that they do To really dive into the races. And and give you information that you need to be able to bat and not talk over. The heads of our audience doubts the key. It's how do you on a daily basis present information to the yours. Some of them holding racing form in their hand. Some of them aren't how do you present. Some of them have thousands of races. Some of them. Watch the triple crown. How do you present information. That's not gonna alienate people like me. New steve who watching all the time but also Give you good information and give the new fans and Laps fans information. That's entertaining and informative and that's the challenge. These guys go through on a daily basis. And i think that they do as good a job. Anybody in the industry and so. That's you know. I'm really proud of that and They they they work very very hard at that. And you know there are crews. They're all very competitive with each other and They have a lot of fun on the shows but they were card. Nobody could ever say that. The people that work on these shows don't work their asses off because they do well and it's funny that you touched on something that was going to include as a follow up which is how and in your experience going back to your. You know your long association with the presentation of the sport on television. How it how do you envision. And how has this changed in terms of being able to engage. You know the most sophisticated players as well as you know. You don't wanna you don't wanna talk down to the people at the same time and you know you don't want to couch everything by saying or introduce everything by saying you know for for those of you that have just started to play the game It how do we. How do you spread that around and is in production meetings. They are their assignments. Tony as to who sort of speaks to which kind of player that that you assume the demographic represents i think that you know we. We're fortunate enough to do shows Essentially three different levels in terms of viewership. You've got the you know. Msg fox to telecasts. Then we jump up to fox. Sports one fox sports one. We know that amount of people watching is gonna be three to seven times higher. And that's you know you. You know then that you're getting more casual fans when you're on fox. Sports one compared to foxsports too and then broadcast fox for the travelers. And we've got over a million people watching you know that a lot of those people are casual fans so you can't just do the same show that you do on a daily basis but having said that to your point you know when i watch the masters. They're not explaining to me. What a seven iron is so at some point. I've got to kind of figure out a little bit about the sport as well. So you've got to walk that fine line and it's not that hard for someone to say You know into mischief whose father of this horse instead of intimacy of. Who is the sire of this. You can dumb it down a little bit without really Agitating the hardcore hardcore players. And you know you look at. Thomas is a person who Really does a terrific job on our shows and you talk about someone to hard. Because you know. He's at the barn at four thirty in the morning and then he's doing the show in the afternoon but he's a person who's really done a great job of being able to explain what we see from horse standpoint and what what it means and how it translates to other sports you know rick seemingly always done that very well as well so you know. I think that our team is always aware of that. And we tweet push hard for that and there's times we can fall into a little bit of a trap where we start getting into the inside baseball as they like to refer to. You know lingo where it starts going over people's heads and you know producers are great and reminding them when that happens and and just getting them to take a step back and make sure that you know they're they're not talking over the heads of the of the viewers. I appreciate it. I i also Curious along those same lines given what is what two plus decades You know in and around the television production how how has how has the presentation of the sport Changed how's it improved. What what still the you think Do you retain as a as a blue sky project to fold in. Well look i. I basically the first show. I ever worked in horse racing. I was still in college. It was nineteen eighty-eight. I did the santa anita. Derby was won by winning colors for. Abc sports is part of old wide. Will the sports telecasts and and you know the first year they worked in tv. I was jim mckay's researcher on horse racing and you know at tv at abc. We did a lot. We really focus a lot on the storytelling. And you know so. That's kind of with my my background. And what. I what. I learned when we started tv. Gee in nineteen ninety nine. I was executive producer. There we did a lot of that and we had you know shift gears a little bit more towards the betting side to You know sustain the business and You know put on seven days a week of programming which tv still does. And it's is remarkable. I mean they're pretty different. Networks you know. And and and it's just that i think the scores of all technologies help. I mean back in the day when we were doing. These shows at abc sports. You know for every horse. You had to literally on the graphics. I type in the name of the horse. The jockey's name the owner's name the trainer you had to manually update the odds and you know you could never have done a a tv or the types of shows we're doing Back then because none of that was automated to spend endless amount of time just building these graphics technology has changed what we've done Tremendously and i think from a talent standpoint. the talent has Is there's more accessible data than there was in the past and Which is great. It's also made it level the plainfield from handicapping standpoint in my opinion And so there's more information that's out there so it's made it's helped talent be able to give out real good information That they're able to present. So i think if you look back at shows the the throughout the different points in my career that i worked on a proud of all all of the programming that i've been involved with and even worked at the nfl network and worked with Professional football players get shows there and again. I put our talent up against any of the people that i've worked with in the past and the and the team that we have Our as professional and and and working as good information as anybody is in any sport. So i think you know in the future. You know the guy. I think we we really wanna make the shows as interactive as possible And make people. I think you want want people to feel like if you're watching total ivory. You're watching america's day at the races. You have an edge you. You have an advantage over the person that's not watching and that's kind of goal we want people. You know our talent. We want them to make the people who are watching still smart. Because they're watching. We want you know back in the day when at some point we'll all be able to go to work and work side by side with our colleagues that you know that war watercooler talk where people sit around and talk about the weekend. Who want people to be able to talk about horse racing and to feel like they learn something and they're able to convey that to the people that they're west and i think that's kind of where we're we're trying to go especially with this new audience. It's going to be coming around with sports. Betting tony al levada with us Nyerere bats and the new york racing association. And tony did. I would certainly be happy to give you the floor to you. Know to go through. You know everybody in the truck and so forth But i i do want to let you take a moment or two to thank the sponsors that were involved because The industry got involved and to make this thing work. You needed the support of a whole bunch of of various entities around the game look at started with clayborn When we you know they were literally the first sponsor on the show and at that point the show is just an idea wasn't even it wasn't even a reality. it was on paper and they stepped up in a big way to support the shows and they always have been there for us and giving us a lot of encouragement run happy. Obviously you could not to watch the shows and not seeing how big of a show was and then of course the jockey club who literally have done a great job. Well the Another element of this that Friend and and listener Leslie naf brings up a great point. tony about the way in which the the show is presented interacts. And that is the you know the real time interaction that the that the team has When they have the opportunity To respond to questions and and real time the things that are happening on twitter which is pretty remarkable. When there's things about the odds and about the the the laze about performances. And i it. It is amazing. When you see you know andy or or maggie and and everybody literally answer questions while they're on the air absolutely. I mean they're always on top of that and trying to keep people with for tony it. It's just a real tribute to the association and You mentioned mike mobile earlier. What fox has done. And let's be honest to you. You really came into the breach for them Filling you know when when they suddenly found themselves With with huge swaths of of airtime to fill and and so this was. This was a remarkable. I must have said it on a daily basis for months just the way things the way things happened a during this very difficult. Set of circumstances The industry wide Response has been remarkable and what You know you and the involved here was Responsible for is a real tribute. So thank you from from players and stakeholders and fans. Listen thanks to all the team at naira and at fox everything they've done and steve thank you for a great year and everything to support horse racing really appreciate your enthusiasm for the game and how much you put into it and It really needs to be thanks. Where everything and and Let's great thousand twenty one now. Best wishes for Thank you and best wishes for Family and everybody Everybody in the truck That has put up with mitch and and and any number of of livewires and And straight from central casting characters It must be. It's got to be a lot of fun and and When we get when we get to come back to the racetrack on a regular basis you know being able to interact with everybody onset saratoga next summer Certainly looking ahead tony alabama. Well done thank you. tony oliva. Everybody and tony almost Well actually it is three decades. I said twenty plus. It's more like years and from from early days Is he explained to me while he was still in college. Seems like a lot of a lot of people that do. The production work started that way right. The started his interns and you know assistance and production assistant so forth and research types. That was looking forward to that. Tony alabama everybody a break here and dave brenick is at belmont given that the weather's supposed to turn rotten downstate a lot of workers and so we'll we'll get the latest on several topics from dave brenick r. F greenwich also coming up. Let's see james scully for some handicapping hammer nick. Tamra mike welsh steve anderson. We can preview at the races back after this hour too.

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Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 02/05/19

MAD MONEY W/ JIM CRAMER

45:11 min | 2 years ago

Mad Money w/Jim Cramer 02/05/19

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Ralph Lauren and Estee Lauder get this day served eight point four percent and eleven point six percent respectively. Capelle better than expected numbers. Well, apple tacked on another one point seven percent with easy. Thanks to the endless parade of by since the company reported last week. Let's take them on by one. Now, you know, I've read I've you before about Estee were, and it's amazing CEO for breezy afraid who is consistent dazzles with his intellect his presence and his innovation. Leave it to the seller of clinic to put on a clinic. Today. Copper school essay glimmered, some blow outnumbers with the fabulous guide up. No wonder the stock soared how about roughly. This was all about the phenomenal leadership. Patrice is young Louis vay. The company's collaborates you who who recruit the code for stiches clothing and his running away with the crowd. Collaborative course with Ralph Lauren Laverne hard work, along with the amazing foolproof reputation of Ralph himself resulted in a spectacular quarter whole new generation of people by wrath, then there's apple the old mass-market prestige brand not only is the apple watch crushing at twelve billion dollar industry with the product looks great. Have you seen that herb MS version, but the watch also saves lives? I just want peace in Europe post this morning about a sixty seven year old new region man who had a serious bathroom and his app. Watch ordinarily contacted rescue personnel yet, not only is it prestigious. It's actually used fall people pay up work. And that's that even mentioned the new iphones that have the same picture quality as a fifteen hundred dollar camera that makes you darn good on Instagram and that's half the point of owning a smartphone. These days at least for the younger generation, you know. You know, what these brands have going for them? And this is really important because this is a way to analyze stocks that I've come I gotta write a book about this. Because it's so good, first and foremost, they hold up when they Konomi gets tough. Okay. That is a major tenant of what I'm talking about. I'm going to quote from Estee Lauder conference call for a moment because for Brazil fade explains his concept. Former eloquently that I ever could. And I quote, I want to emphasize historically, prestige, beauty has been less sensitive economic downturns because as a more affordable luxury driven by repeated purchases and wilty end, quote, so so lasting universality. Esteve orders. Brands as freight explains. Quote, long-term our industry has strong fundamentals including fable demographics that should drive solid growth for years to come end. Quote. See that's exactly what I want. I want long term theory. So you can own something malter not in out in that. That's not what that money's about. I love the art the fate of traces add on this amazing. School that by the way, CEO's watching please. This is your clinic. I'm not kidding. He says a key strategy behind. Our brand success is create significant base of profitable repeat business from devoted consumers. While tracking new users with compelling innovations and marketing end quote, and then the quality of our product turns them into lifelong fans, he says actually this modest operandi every single brand category. It has major channels delivered double digit growth, that's extraordinarily. Well, other companies struggle in China right for that for putting up used numbers. Ivor many tales of wool about the PR C of late. But have you ever heard anyone say this, quote luxury brands have been in high demand in China, and our sales mirrored that trend as they increase strongly in quote, well freighted knows that consumers in Asia, increasingly shopping online ecommerce has been growing sharply in China. And now counts for more than a third of febreeze us sales. It is a fabulous story Estee. Orders in this position. Because freighters the history of backing his best brands with more and more resources. Do what every portfolio manager should be doing. He's doubling down on his winners. While he's leading his losers kinda go fallow. I read the call and I said, oh, I got a call the man, I got a call the wizar-. So I gave him a jingle and just listen for helping here. How's it doing? And he said I said give me the magic give me a formula. He says he's marrying data analytics with creativity to design prestige products, their data analytics creativity data he told me is the new oil. But only when it is connected to creativity. Does it pay off this man spends more time writing his conference call than anyone else in the world? I'm not kidding. So guys you big shots in the valley. Who you think you're everything you think all you need is the data. Forget it. Not true. You need. To look at that data through the right prison. That's why fate is such an amazing teacher. We all should be his pupils how roughly Daba washed away. This Patrice has been standing Ralph forms. Tremendous brand power of late. Philip, of course, decades to a whole generation consumers who crave prestige last spring move eight trace out of very emission turnaround planners investor day, and you know, what I thought it might be to miss that. Last quarter was a little dicey. But he was able to outperform the expectations in this corn pudding. Phenomenal upside surprise raising its full year sales forecast. It's easy for executives to talk. The talk making big plans to be unattainable. But move AWOL when he went over the future. Ralph Lauren at that investor day. He went out five goals. I win over new generation of consumers, right because rows have been conceived to be a little bit too old second energize core products, exceleron underdeveloped categories. It have been to stayed in too many not enough new places third drive targeting expansion in our regions and channels fourth lead with digital cross electives and the app. It's real good and finally fifth operate with discipline to fuel quoth. I know these sound like meaningless business school bromides friv- leaving. But you know, what we dismissed this kind of language out of hand is because most checks can't live on that vase different. He's got a whole new fan base forming over Ralph Laurens merchandise as he said on the cop school one third that consumers who bought product. From the recent holiday offers one third nude arou- floored and a meaningful slice of them under thirty five. Holy grail. People had he do that. Well, one of the main things he stressed in the Kola celebrities, and yes, I love this drives David favorite crazy influencers people. You might have no idea about if you're my age, but they're influencing even as they especially resonate with generations, XYZ, mega whatever versus there's when Pri Pri. That's right. Yeah. Priyanka Chopra married Nick Jonas in India. The by was decked out in the first wedding dress that Ralph Lauren had ever designed outside of his own family. I love this. Influence or mast on this call. It was remarkable. There's Nicole kid-. You Jacqueline Alex Rodriguez g deed chance the rapper. Chris pine lady Gaga lupita neon. Go. Andy Rosen Rachel so Cameron Livia Paloma and Lisa Detweiler. Okay, through 'cause that's my wife because I needed to have someone in that list that I've actually heard besides a ride whose meaningless to me, which is how you know. These people are indeed hip. You combine these influencers with Ralph Laurens classic products and put them in the right places. And you've got the makings of potential Motiur. Move influencers thought leaders you stop laugh stop laughing over there. Yeah. You stop laughing. These are influencers pray pray. You don't even know Cree Prius. I studied this. No, no, no, pre pre that you'd get away from her. She doesn't know an influence from thought leader. Anyway, apple what can I say every day? Every day after my people that apple still an innovative company just think from raise your fate at Estee wilder apples, married data with creativity to bring prestige paddocks that were willing to pay up. Here's the bottomline, branding matters as we saw today, the stocks of copies that no automatics their own prestige can give you some remarkable gains over the long haul. Remember, if your company is pricing power cut thought leaders on board than it has a stock that should go up over time. Let's go to Rick in New Mexico wreck. Jim first of all, thanks for all the hard work. You've done for us. All these years. Thank you, really serve me my family. Well, you're nice. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're welcome. So look public storage for about six years now starch and good to me. Yeah. Yeah. I've also use their facilities really impressed with their customer service and operation, but you know, recently, the until you loop out and new people have moved into these positions in what seems to have been planned successions right long time in the making. Yes, I'm concerned because you've often stated that Exo exits are serious warning sign. Yeah. I did like that previous CEO. Geez. What would do? Hey, that's vitamin and that way, we'll find out brick in New Mexico. We're not gonna let you down. This is an interactive show. I've always recommended public storage just the actual Bonham in two thousand nine I have liked this. But Rick is right. We've had a change of personnel. Let's do some digging people play up for certain things. And if you own the stocks, and these companies you can handle what the market throws at you in that imports list. They do matter, and I'm not anybody lip at that money tonight out of its earnings last night. Make it seem like running a business may not be as easy as ABC. But you know, what you see those more on sellers. One. I tell you anyway, K what to make copies. Okay. What to make copies? In the darkest days. Several one tortoise poked sent you shouldn't fear major Polak is ending this. I'm checking back with him tonight. See what he says near and when Robert her chevik is investing in the next big thing on shark tank. He manages jury for some of the biggest corporations on the planet that we may have declined over the past year. I'm asking him. Why people are facing greater risks in ever of having their data stolen. Hey, and how about this cryptic Erzen? Passwords got any stay with Kramer. Don't miss a second of that money. Follow at Jim Cramer on Twitter. I have a question. Tweet Gramer hashtag mad tweaks sin. 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Let's take the case of alphabet best date, and what I regarded, frankly preteen Dr nasty conference. Call multiple analysts export SKorean them poor at who's like the greatest the CFO. Great CFO. We're gonna steal fit tastic person just excoriate her for spending like a drunken sailor with no end in sight. I was harsh judgement. Then again, when you consider how little alphabets long-term projects soon as other bets have made the company, and how much they have cost the company you can understand what somebody's else concerned. I wish there were more linear relationship between what alphabet spending on these specula- bets and people higher returns at times. It feels like there's no amount of money. They won't spend pursuit of who knows what the only note or the other bet that's paid off for Vida's nest. The smart thirst service that system and that has game changer. However, what really threw me wasn't questioned tossed out by day. Today breath from Jeffries, listen forever. He put it out that quote, the cash position is doubled last five years two hundred nine billion yet in the last four years emanate has been about three billion. Well, which is well blow your peers in quote, anyone to know what alpha plans to do with all that money. I wasn't being put the better use. Why would they just sitting what how it's hardly lunar apples. The same issue now was circumspect with its answer. But I think prince question cuts to the Corto Emma being a big profitable growth company because in a way all that cash can be a curse there's a whole investors who went alphabet to spend less money. So they end up sitting on this mountain Macapa with nothing to play on except the buybacks stock. I need to understand. I'll put gets little no credit cash work because the money's not doing anything for them. They collect a little interest big deal while the company announced twelve point five billion dollar buyback. That's small change that we got enough to move the needle for seven and ninety billion dollar. Business segment comes to acquisitions anything they might be worth buying his already going to be very expensive. We. Out of its spending a fortune are in d that's why it caught so much flak from the analysts even as I told you to buy the darn thing right into the big selloff last night. And again this morning, a call the turned out to be right because I believe in this company, and I believe in with poor. But what should they do with that hundred nine billion? I don't know. It's hard about what I be ended, for instance, over and over again, the NS committee had nothing good to say about IBM's endless by backs and dividends. Which is kind of what they went with poor to give Google the company can paying them out the dividends. Piece Warren Buffett who was the largest shareholder time. But each to be cool taskmaster into dumping the stock unceremonious when it took too long fry be and determine itself around finally IBM changed his strategy late last year, they shelf with thirty by one of the best tech companies. I follow red hat while they're paying full price. You're no doubt about it. The deal mealy put IBM in the mix when it comes to tens of billions of dollars with cloud. Spin uses that previously didn't have enough exposure to at first the market lewd this deal, though, here IBM's finally doing what we want. And then what we want? And like it stock didn't help that this happened in the fourth quarter. When everything was falling apart later, though IBM's come roaring back especially you're better than expected quarter a couple of weeks ago. Hey, maybe the red headed acquisition wasn't good idea after all, but the punishment for taking this kind of bold action was so upsetting the billions of dollars lost instantly. Let's consider apple yesterday. Everyone's going Gaga over this list of potential takeover targets published by JP Morgan. They figured these deals might be the magic elixir for apple company. With the cheap. Stock. That's got two little from its main line of business, the iphone I've said repeated apple shoot make some acquisitions but wave them to healthcare not trinkets healthcare to take advantage of the watches capabilities. But instead people seem to want him to bulk up on entertainment where the copy already has some incredible offers it nobody seems to care how Amazon well it's been fortunate ball. It's cloud in advertising business. They are the best. But because it was a wee bit of margin, we juice we killed vision for the holidays. Nothing else seemed to matter this stocks coming back as I said, it would but it's doing so in spite of the am was once again, it was just finished if the last quarter. So what should these tech titans do with all of their cash? I don't really have any answers here. But I do know that they shouldn't take their cue from the short term gyrations in their stocks were the endless critics many of whom have become increasingly negative or frustrated with these stories might vice you can't fees everybody and the case of out the bit and Amazon. Zahn an apple I think it's a steak even try aren't much more mad money, you might know him from shark tank, but this day, John Robert her chevik works hard to prevent security breaches, what are his biggest security worries and twenty nineteen and I know you can make some money off these style off of the companies that do cybersecurity. Let's sit down with the shark tank man himself. He's not promoting these companies then at the top end to Twenty-eight team up side ahead in this market. I'm going up charts. Find out and bed may not be raising rates that doesn't mean you shouldn't be putting your money in motion on my won't Cup. And it could save you money with just a few clicks online. And the mouse I'd say stay with Kramer. Pizzas, many times as I have to. When you find an incredible secular growth store you stick with. There are some things that can produce truly spectacular multi year gains. Volition don't get shaken out when this dachshund question wanted to little turbulence take cybersecurity one of the most powerful trans out there why. Because within a couple of your cyber crime is going to be a multi trillion dollar business. Every second there's more and more data that companies need to protect and they simply haven't spending enough to do it. They don't want to hurt the bottom line. They think don't take my word for this. Let's check in with Robert her chevik. He's the cybersecurity expert choice fresh on Twitter about an urgent group. Major what largest privately held player in the space. You recognize perhaps is from the short as one of the original sharks? Cerdic? Welcome today. Welcome back to money. All right. Robert, I'm convinced. I am convinced the more that these trade talks go on that with this is really about is our security not markets because those coming go. But the fact is that we when we take some of their products in their products. Find out more about us than they should is there truth to the idea that the Chinese including the Chinese military are behind a lot of the cyberterrorism that they're doing my personal opinion is yes intelligent agency has also warned us not to use these devices. You know, it's the old adage, why are these people getting these products out there? It's why do you rob banks? That's where the money is. Why does everybody want to hack the United States because this is the greatest country in the world for IP for intelligence and all that kind of stuff? But here's what's confusing me. There are plays alpha psych Ericsson and Nokia they complete with this wall way. They could be while with people rather have alway-, it's cheaper people think it's. Better. But now, we are telling you, basically pressuring people we don't want you to use it because we believe our government believes that it really is embedded intelligence. Is there any truth to that? You probably been called into be asked. What do you tell your clients? I would be very careful. I mean, the European Union just warned about using those products. There's a lot of warnings from different governments to use it. But it amazes me the large corporations and governments still use it. You cannot beat the attraction of low prices would advise me if I were about to commit a major amount of money to tell co Queant that I should not use it. I would not use them. I always. But I'm a cybersecurity guys care about what you think would I care about what some salesperson things. A lot of these companies are trying to build a huge infrastructures if they can get it for a few pennies lower. They're putting safety wise and pound foolish. Yes. There are definitely being penny wise and pound. But I must have security guys. I always think you have to build everything we've protection in mind because saving a little bit of money today. And I haven't the right protection is going to hurt your brand is going to hurt customer data. Look what's happened with Facebook and Google Europe, recently, what you in if Facebook it brought you in and Google butchering. Would you not have been told them what the authorities are going to be angry about you know, that to write what I would have said to them is you cannot underestimate the backlash of using consumer privacy. The problem is people think consumers don't care. I'm not sure consumers really care, but governments will care when you've got the government after you. It's going to hurt you long term because I it turns out that the people are still using Facebook. But the governments have the ability put business consumers want the government to protect us. I think this is one area gym where the government has to protect us because we're lazy. We're laziest consumers. We don't wanna change your pass. We don't wanna do that stuff. But we want a rail from the rooftops, and we want the government to step in. And they're going to. I'm so good. You mentioned passwords and what the government's job should do. I read this article Reuters Robert boss dies with password to unlock cutter three seven eight. And no one knows how to get it. But he got the password. What do we do here? I was just in Canada this morning. We're talking happening. But here's the beauty of cryptocurrency. It's built on blockchain. It can't be hacked. That's the beauty data. I want to be hacked complete North Korean. Here's the downside guide. Is the passwords? How do we get at it? Well, how can you crack that? Well, that is the nature of blockchain, but it cannot be hacked. So I don't know how this was built. So I can't comment on this specific environment. But that is the promise of krypton currency can't be hacked. But Jim don't you think when we're creating money or virtual systems that in theory cannot be hacked? But this could be dangerous. E need a way to access some these systems. Even my fire department has the elevator in my building a case of an emergency. This is an emergency. I think there's two hundred million dollars of consumer money out there that people don't know if they're going to get back at the same time. I do read articles about crypt. They're stealing. I mean, people are getting their mining other people's crypto, right? Well, we publish an annual report on what's going on in the world. It's not one of the things in our report that the basis of one of the reasons hacking is so big right now is because of the rise of cryptocurrency before crypto currency if I had to and I want you to give me money. I'd have to meet you somewhere. Cryptocurrency completely anonymous, you can send me lots of money, and I never know where it came from all right now. When are we going to be in a situation where is don't glaze over when we hear that someone hacked our stuff? We're literally it's like, we're not protected where it's like we're out a lot of money, you're desensitized, and you don't share as a consumer. But you know, what if you're an enterprise, and you're a big corporation listening to this you better care because the consumers may not care. We may be desensitized. But if I get hacked from one retailer, you know, I'm going to do I'm going to go another retail true. And so the onus is on the enterprises on the government to take care of us. Okay. Now, let's say I'm I am convinced with the internet of things that someone is going to hack a major double decker tractor trailer with no driver and run it into me. I am convinced that's going to happen. Can we make those hack poof? Very difficult. Very you're assuming that kind of tack hasn't happened. So there was an attack in December on the L A times didn't get a huge amount of publicity. But it was significant because they hacked their back and systems for payroll came in eletronic Lii and affected the printing presses. So the LA times stopped printing for two days, I believe or one day on the surface, not a massive attack. But what's significant is they went through electronic backhand, civil internet internet of things, and because the presses are connected with the internet of things they stopped mechanical systems. So when you go through electronic world into a mechanical world you've crossed over. So what are mechanical systems pipelines all kinds of hospital systems, everything in the world the world is becoming so interconnected and all of those access points can be. Act if you're a big corporation. You've gotta listen to this. You got to take care of it. Wow. Where he about this big. You know, it's big I worry about it too. But it's you know, it's good for our business say like, right? That's one of the reasons you're seeing so much growth in the internet stocks and the cybersecurity stop so they act great consonants Robert hers, they can use these cybersecurity expert that you wanna learn from is it onto purview. Of course. He's a shark. I always get scared. I listened to. But then again, he's got some ideas about how they can stop stick with Craig. Thank you. Can the dark days of December? When the corner seemed endless we highlighted the work of Bob Marino. He's a brain technician, my colleague, real money dot com. I blog their day. It's most being the publisher of right few trading dot com. He told us to bottom would soon be at hand. Number is co wasn't quite perfect. I mean, this wasn't December eleventh we still have more downshift for the app discharge rebound after Christmas. But it really nailed the bigger picture warm portly. Moreno explain that. You shouldn't fear. The major pullback that was coming because any wheat this would represent a buying opportunity in that was right as rate what made him so confident he took a long term perspective and based on that zoomed out byu, he figured that. Even with the hideous declines in October November the average appear to be going through a surprisingly normal period of consolidation. The kind of thing that temporarily interrupts market emphasis on temporarily. And look if you believe in writer's analysis, you would have known that the horrific solve late December was in fact of by opportunity, which is why I wanted to go back to the. Well, so how'd it get it? So right, two months ago. Whereas he think the market's going now I take a look at the week. The NASDAQ composite when we last spoke to Marin he expected that the NASDAQ's of member lows withhold, okay. Because that's where we bought him in February and April, and I've talked to that floor support did fail them. You can see the failure right there. But if you use Klein over very short period of time, that's where I call it. Of course, our own I call that the mini bear, the NASDAQ came roaring back, right? The mini mini-bear did not take out of commission. Now, Moreno points out that the late December decline here was was known as they measured move or symmetry? That's when you figure out the size of an advance or decline based on the size of a pass wing in the same security. This is the Carl Borodin of notch queens off Austin also talks about quite regularly feature stuff. Most recently Tober November the danstett gradually lost about seven points when that floor support was broken quickly dropped another seven hundred point seven hundred okay. By the way, Myrna points out that you saw the exact same thing happened in the Dow and the s&p five hundred these are measured declines once started climbing EMMY roared higher, and it only took a few weeks occur the old floor of support at about sixty nine hundred. Meanwhile, the slow sa- cast off later and important momentum to cater turn very positive very fast. See that the check in money flow. That's our Mark chicken, okay? Which measures the level of buying and selling pressure has returned to positive to momentary dip, and then there's one more point marina wants to make about this bottom. So check out the NASDAQ's logarithmic monthly chart. All right. This is very important this about symmetry again and a lot chart the why axis doesn't show price. It shows percentage move so K so run from five dollars ten dollars same as the run from five hundred to two thousand because these are both one cent rise, Alexa, logarithmic chart because it does a much better job of putting the markets longer term gyrations in context to say when the NASA broke down in December. It dropped another nine percent bringing the total pizza Trump declined to twenty four percent. The thing is a lot of chart shows that even at twenty. Four percent client, isn't that unusual? Okay. We're gonna points out that you have periods of consolidation pauses in a long-term bull run and to him decline. Here looks very similar to what we saw the NASDAQ in twenty eleven twenty fifteen twenty sixteen plus even our lowest out point right around Christmas. The nest egg never broke down below it's eight year trend line. So see everyone was freaking out. But look at this it helped member those days. Holy cow. A member I was standing Costa Rica called in. I said, no, I think it holds. And I was looking something like this because it just seemed to be too far too fast. Why does it mean to bring this up again? Well, because if he's right that the markets in the consolidation pattern. That's not great news for the bulls. He's based on past experience the necessary to trade sideways for at least an accent months why because the last couple of consolidation periods. Each took it least year to play out. We're not even since once this one. So with that mind, where's the market headed a little complicated? Chart. Plays. Okay. Take a gander at the daily chart of the S and P five hundred here you need to look at the support resistance levels. In addition to the daily levels. He also included support resistance from the longer term weekly mopey charts. Now, even after a sixteen percent run from the symbol lows Rena thinks the SNP still has more room to run. Okay. So that's good news. Right. It's still not there. The our site relative strength index which measures price momentum continues to trend higher. All right. And it hasn't yet reached overbought levels yet taking money flow a sword over the last month look at that. Okay. Reflecting massive and Sushil by that's what we see every day facing. These new buyers. The kind of who won't be panicked out of the positions by short-term volatile member last year when we were down Ganic Louis. Biggest decline today you're here today. And that was because all those vixen shoes are still Renner. Thanks. There's perhaps a three point five percent advance before the runs a weekly ceiling of resistance at twenty eight one eight now how. Can the break through the city mayor thanks to twenty eight eighteen target is easily achievable, and if the technical indicators may positively up China's still intact when that happens this silly resistance, it'd be broken pre. Sure that would clear the way for a further. Four percent move taking the S and P back to its Tober highs which most people thought we could never get to and the upper end of the month that consolidation channel. I've got to tell you I've been I was in touch with people said this will never ever be seen again. He's entirely doable. Minor says it's unclear how long's process will take. But he has a very clear idea of what happens when the Espy reaches hold highs. He expects a whole market to be a synchronize reversal basically be as a sealant around twenty nine three. Oh, okay. And because marina beliefs we're stuck consolidation pattern for at least seven months he will head right back down. Once we hit those levels. Well, that'd be horrible. In fact, it says yes and be potentially sink all the way back down to twenty three fifty which is. The longer term support. So obviously, we would have just a massive panic that occurred. That's anyone's looking for go all the way back to the December lows. I know I'm not looking for that. What do you think he says to do look if Myrna's right? We still have considerable amount of upside about seven percent for the run exhausted south. However, you can't allow yourself to get to Zuber people even when he says, thanks, we'll be consolidation pattern until September. So until then he expects the more the trade in a fairly wide range with the meat bouncing between twenty twenty three five. Oh and twenty nine three. Oh from now, we're headed higher, but it says you should use these key levels as entry and exit points until the consolidation pattern from comes to an end later this year and the averages resume their long March higher the bottom line, look bodily came very close to calling the bottom of this ever. And is now says spot if you this thesis about the mortgage, they weren't a consolidation period. One that will last until September then you can afford to be optimistic but be cautiously optimistic right now. However it leases. Till September meter says you should be a seller if the average approach there Tober highs that's around twenty nine three zero s and p five hundred eventually specs breakout from these levels, but it won't happen anytime soon, still even right? And this rally will lose it. Steam, another seven percent game that still pretty good. But I am very wary at it makes me wanna do some selling for this run because I sure don't wanna see this level again. Stick. And then the light res- over are you ready? It's over Johnny Connecticut. John Grenadian, Dr crave. In a big book, the Bhutia from Bridgeport. Well, put how can I help thanks for taking my call for you do for home gamers thacker semi conductor beat expectations on fourth quarter, earnings and revenue. Unlike some others in the sector, I'd like your take on. This fact can go from here. I read a piece in the streets come about it. And I think that the company is incredibly some buying here. I need to go to Tim in Illinois. Please ten. The call. Enjoy your show. Jim why thank you while you had Maury Taylor junior on your show. He was the seal and Peyton international tickets WI now with. Doc is doing quite well at that time. However now, it seems to a fall in tougher times that they lost market share to their competitors. Or is it just the decline in the overall market? What the hell is that stock doing down there five? Holy cow. I gotta tell you got five that man, let me do some work. I mean that is like a major major downturn. Unfathomable we have to do work. Let's go to Ben and my home state of Pennsylvania ban. Jim take. No pleasure. My pleasure. So so all the hype and certainty around the puck, you believe Alibaba with you, but the outcome of the trade war, and what have you seen any? These fashion guys lately, and they are at a lot of retailers. Can't a lot of guys suppliers and they say over and over again, Jim get more positive on Allie Fava. So I will use dago. It's been an amazing mazing way to move product. How Bill and Florida please Bill. Bill. Thank retake McCaw gnawing quite quickly. Very quickly feel remiss. I did. Thank you. You're ten years two kids through college debt free day at the ripe old age fifty seven. This is why still do this darn shell. Thank you so much every game. I wife says why do you still do the show because you that's one? The one I want to talk about it. I don't do this very often. But once in a while back at ticket chanson like your views on Avon AVP. Know, maybe they can make it. I don't know. I saw it the way top where blew up recently. I'm not in a book, you can lose its two buck stop. You can listen to bucks. Can I tell you? That's how I feel about it. Let's go to Kevin pavement comet so Kevin and Minnesota cabinet. Him. A things throw you do man. Love the show, David favorite show on TV. Gonna town many come on. It's through is really think through that. All right. 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The Bill Bert Podcast | Episode 47 w. Jeff Richards

The Bill Bert Podcast

55:22 min | 3 months ago

The Bill Bert Podcast | Episode 47 w. Jeff Richards

"Hey what's going on everybody. It's time for another one of episode of the bill bert. Bod all right. Yeah we got a gas up aghast guest. This guy's one of my favorite fucking stand up comedians. One of the most original darkest craziest people on stage. It does some of the best impressions. I give you intro you now. You're gonna be like. How do i follow this. Please welcome the absolutely brilliant. Jeff richards thank you. Thank you very much. Bill thank you. It's great to be here i Thank you for having me on. Thank you remember a bit you did. I forget quite how it goes but we we working together in brea and you were talking about. People put babies in crawlspaces after they killed them. And you said something like where are they going to stick them next and you said something absolutely ridiculous and then you just looked at the crowd and they didn't know how to handle it. I was in the fucking back crabby. Help if i remember the punchline but i don't remember reminded me of that chick with the big square head that fucking acts like she's a lawyer maybe she used to be one but now she's on tv. It's not judge judy. She doesn't even do a judge show. She's always an ambulance chaser. Jets like she's trying to help people out. Are you talking about who knows. What's what's amazing grace andrea. nancy grace. Your own nancy grace. Yeah nancy right right. I remember that it was something. Wasn't it something about a suitcase to with like like you're going to go to the trouble to chop a body but you don't. You don't yank the teeth out. You don't get rid of the fillings length of you know something like that. This is this started off real you fucking talking about this shit like you would just shooting the breeze about putting a deck on your house. You're talking about the darkest shit and then you could like this. Nancy grace look in the end of it and it was staring at you. Yeah that was it. And i fucking was brian in your commitment in the characters and shit like a fucking travesty than not more people know the stupid pandemic is over to go out and go see jeff richards. Live if you really want something different really like you. you're sierra. this is the guy you gotta see. You're so sweet. Thank you what was what was how. How how do you come up with a bit. I'm just curious. I remember seeing you one time about to go up in the oh and in the belly room and you were in a complete i think blue and gold leotard fox jeff in there like oh he's trying to figure something out tonight and i was like i. Just fuck yeah. That's the music stuff that's like having fun with the music and smoke a little weed before you go up there and just letting letting loose. Yeah he was. Tom penny for like an hour. I sat and i play drums to yeah and he would go up there and he would just sing the song but before the song he would do some story about how he came up with the song and it was the most darkest twisted shit ever and then he'd go into this huge hit that everyone wanted to hear while they had to shake off the store like he get into like getting touched by a relative and the house would be playing like refugee. Don't do me like that although do me like that. That was the one. I played on jokes up. That he's talking about how he got diddled You know my dad was a great guy. Took me out fishing it up one day out of sitting there on on the couch. I didn't really know what was going on. Anyway let's let's don't do you like that here. We go. show me down dairy like that. A podcast that's my favorite thing. Ever the louie anderson point. Joe it what are you. Show me. Bologna xiaomi croissant. Say it's time for the feud guys to play that fear top five enzyme the survey and high demand. The gang guy gotten humane dying yummy water. I'm dying ever do that. You ever do that. What what you been doing. During the pandemic i started this. Podcast with the fuck is going on with microbes saying that a change to a yeti dano flying what do i do here good left it come off. I just little yellow yellow. That only i could see there. It is your default mica foreign exchange. The mac book pro microphone. What do i want to do here. Andrew you sound fine did it. Back and forth keep it says the has your microphone is the input on the charge. The gone out is the same thing. Somebody hacking in here In the corner yeah just enough. Let's just keep going fucking he's done. Good bill okay. All right sorry. What are you doing during this This pandemic jeff. Just the my show just the podcast making these Deepfakes and just banging one out Every we're gonna go to one every two weeks. We're doing once a week. A little little much getting everything together but just just trying to do a new impression. We gave you. How does that take you a couple. Yeah you gotta give yourself time to come up with the impression right. Gotta figure out you know the pairing of of of you know which impression with the guests which would good one. You know like you and louis was good. I thought because. I could defuse you as louis a little bit. You know Just trying to pick ones at that kind of spar weld together you know. Yeah i don t oh i like doing I always like doing letterman. I always like master shake it. You would hope at some point. I don't know how who there's a certain define ability that that isn't quite a isn't quite an apple. Isn't quite a banana who i feel like a buck and i feel like a child whenever i hear impression. I'm always like how do you start it. Like how do you take me through the coming up with an impression. I've always felt like i could do. Notorious b i g singing well but i could never do an impression. I think you just have to have a feeling about that person. You know You know something in you that makes you kinda wanna mock him a little bit. You know something that. You'll i kinda see what this guy is a little bit. You know like You know and kind of go. There like robert downey junior was like that for me. He always sounded like a surfer from southern california. Just in general. You know niche like shaikh. Hang ten you know cowabunga. You know digitisation out surfing chicken metaphor for like Shaikh nearer naci like vancouver post pineapple vibes. I've great you know. Just just kind of fun to get into it. Like always like jimmy. Fallon is fun is so cool. You know as as the coolest thing. The william as i found a paper clip yesterday in an pippa clip. You know little little piece of twisted metal. You when i first saw like oh my god no way to sit at home he to start doing because i like imitate somebody if i work with them but i spent forty hours a week with them and then it was really just everybody's impression of the guy and then just exaggerating a few things. But i've never been able to like. I can do impressions of people's impressions. Do a little bit of a Rare model but it was only after this guy. Rob mag naughty do it. Yeah i mean once they do crack the ad it was a guy Jim lob. Boston did the best fucking arnold schwarzenegger because he just didn't allow he had the he had that lower register of aukin when he was being firm. Everybody was all about that how he would he would. He would have tone that right. Yeah we're like craig. Gas was the only guy could see do pacino like taught like post like ninety s pacino. Talking right like that gravelly sort of cadence that he got into the way he would do like everybody sort of does the hacky version of it. He actually literally sound like you have like that gift. Is that something you're just born with it. I guess yeah a little bit i. It's like getting the town right. You're just talking about getting getting kind of likes that that that impression. That people haven't seen yet like hoffman. Dustin hoffman as you hop. I there was a long hallway. I didn't i was going. I own so we try. We try to open. We try to open the different doors but they wouldn't open. Nobody had key. We couldn't open the doors to wear go back out. We had to wait for a while. We wait for a while. Don't tell me what you don't know what i know. Don't look like that a a great. I don't fuck you do so you just watching you just notice. I never noticed. He shook his head twenty. Or those lips. What gets little thing. Yeah that little. It is what it is i want. I want some cotton candy. You can't just get caught and candy. you can't just buy cotton candy guy. Yeah you know a cotton candy guy isn't just fun you know mocking insane man. He noticed that there are. Do you notice that there are guys that catch other people's cracking the code and then they steal the code cracker. I mean i don't know. Yeah maybe it's hard to prove for right. But i don't know yeah maybe some time you're one what's your favorite obscure willem dafoe. Oh my god. How do you wanna do that. You just i just. I just wanna ask you questions But but do you like to do for fun. I do it out of a wellness. Defoe from american psycho. You know he's a detective. Yeah is like so. We got pretty good and then patrick. Bateman crystals lucy's the sky room. John is don't you already know all this and he goes. I just wanted to know if you're new to sit at home and can do the whole fucking movie. No i just this certain ones like speak to me. More certain ones grow on me. You know certain ones. I can are in my wheelhouse. I can't do everybody. Just certain ones come in like david attenborough. I don't even okay. Okay i know that is now a snow finch. I'ma curiel creature and still not yet bone is tiny. Speck of dirt is not just a speck of debt inside a mustard. Spiders millions of them. You know kinda fell a one zero four. Oh one zero four. And how much did they use you. I was in pretty good for you know first few years you know not all the time but update a lot because i would just think that you like like debts. They could just write anything. And then i'll stay willem defoe and it. Also the impression guys had the best shot at getting on that show. Yeah and that is what got me on. I think you know. I got to do like a bunch bunch of different ones. I'd i would read one at the at the read through and so the table can maybe kind of hear it for maybe next time then. Yeah they would. Kind of. Put me in different sketches. You're in like at the height of will ferrell. He was on his way out and bill hader and those guys came in will ferrell's last year was my first year. Wow i remember like being on the show with him and king was great great just to watch him watch behaved and how funny was and cool and yeah it was a great guy to to mir. Tried to me a little bit. You know what he crushing those table reads. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah who could you. Can you do impressions of the people. You're on our I could do darrell a little. Bit darrell hammond's interesting now it's like it's like a whole thing you know. The mafia was for years they had wild embargoes and these weird parties. And you know it's kind of weird because things stand up is you know. It's i don't know what's happening with. It never seriously. It's like you know like the godley. Family was for years. Trying to china to infiltrates this massive extinctions of propaganda i if anything but it has his essence so essence a little bit. Yeah i don't know the voice quite sounded like on that out. The essence of it is there yet first time i saw him doing. Stand up like who do you like the impressions like you manic fucking. Kills it. josh. Robert thompson Evan frontier does amazing. Tom cruise there's There's a lot of guys out there. obviously called on agains great and oh god. Cows kellyanne joe and yes. What was the one that the the the most recent one that was just so i would think would amongst impressionist the obscurity slash level of difficulty. Sorta uncharted waters of people. That you've seen anything stick out that you just saw somebody doing like. Oh my god It's a good one Me think well dunnigan is always surprising. Me you know. He's always doing somewhere near his like his biden. Thousand fantastic you know You know just do something. Different with it and You know. I loved his ray. Liotta does awesome fucking smoking with jan. Takes your with the cigarette going out of a going in and out. He's smoke smoked while he's doing it. Ain't fucking fucking green screen it up my message. You went when someone cracks the code. Do you go fuck it. Was the lip and your shed. It was right there or do you go. They missed it. Yes it just depends on what what impression it is. If it's like it's been how much it's been done and how you feel about it yourself what you can do with it like as far as making it funny. I don't know just just depends just depends I need to try to. I want to try to buy. I gotta figure out how to do biden. So that's that's the answer your question. I yeah up against that like everyone is version of them. But i just watch interviews. And i was like watching interviews of the best to try to get down on impression. Yeah while you know what's weird is just like that. I will always amazed at like when somebody's president and then not president like they go away like a fucking boy band. Yeah except for bill. Clinton that guy just know hound. He's always sniffing around the parties right but like everybody else is just like. I don't think. I've seen george w bush like three times since he was president because he was hanging out with allen. Just go into the ether. Yeah this is like you are so like maybe like burnt out and just the level of fucking fame that that is and then no matter what you do. Fifty percent of the country thinks have fucking head up your ass. You gotta be the craziest gig age in the way that they age and all of that stuff. I was just thinking that you know we said biden is the first time i thought trump in a what know since he left closing the ether trump. Yeah though they'll be so fucking coffee did that. What do you mean goes out in the ether. What do you mean just like just never never tweeted a kickoff touro right yeah like just never heard from him again and i swear to god. I'm fucking talk. And even cnn after a while the curiosity factor would get to them and they would wanna go talk to him like how they always no matter. How like whenever disgraced. You are whatever if you just shut the fuck up for good. Ten twelve years people go. Well we fair to him. They'll come back around. So what are you trying to do with your life back together. Yeah it was the time out. Long enough be funny to see him. Sit down with that. Was it rachel. Meadows wanna cried when he got richard really a low point journalism. I always bring that up. It's just like jesus fucking christ crying on the fucking news sorry anyway. Hey do you have a this is gonna sound super obscure. Do you have impressions of people. We don't know that it like you grew up with a really funny Like you do you have to have impressions of like This is like 'cause like for us i do. Sometimes i'll do an impression of brody and my daughter's did an impression brody one time. Yeah there's someone that didn't who brody was because brody's live bias so yeah across the street You know where his starbucks was. My daughters would always go. Dad brody stevens and someone heard their impression of brody and goes. Who's that and they go. It's a comedian. You would know notes. It's like if you did an impression. The ambig- it's still funny even not knowing him bag right. Yeah yeah franscisco. Rama's you guys know francisco. Yes my at big. For my mom and france v ahram. Oh my tongue until big for my mouth other guys like me me a necks so okay relief band everybody. Did you know that. A third of americans regularly suffer from nausea third. What does that three and fifty million people. That's like one hundred million people a lot of people. I get it sometimes bill. Sometimes i'm driving the back seat of a van and i can't see the front Dashboard and stuff. I get nauseous. Why do you think it's bad. And what do you think causes it bert. 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That's the bottom layer and then and then there's the good the good crack is yeah like yours takes a Yeah like they'll always k. k. k. It's far off this is. This is building the skeleton. Yeah you build a skeleton that way. Yeah so if you just watched him for like how long couple of weeks you get app. Something got something for you. I could bring something back to you trying to add to your workload man. I was just curious. No yeah i mean. Yeah if i had to do it. Like that's how i did one bill o'reilly once on snl and that's that was like. Can you learn this. And then i. I did learn. It really can happen. How long did you have to learn it. The week Yeah i'll just no specific time just like try to get this down if tried to see if you can do this one you know but i got a pretty pretty quick. Is there someone you can't crack like we go. I've been trying forever. And i can't get that guy I don't know i need to. I need to be more aggressive about you. Know like like breaking bad like pink manatt. That one took a little while. you know. you're right bitch. I don't care what you know. Tell me what i needed now. right. I don't even care. Okay all right you have a long time ago fucking thirty something years ago i worked in a warehouse and we all. We had an impression of everybody down in the warehouse people. We had never even talked to out in the suit area. What we just thought and we built backstories. I never even realized it but like some of those guys that i work with could have been comedy writers. What are the guys really had a good ear and he came up with this impression of this guy. We all started doing it. He had this weird way of talking. Like you call his name and he got. yeah what. hey it's jab so we started talking like that in his whole batch story was he was a vietnam vet rapist. We used to say as it got. We would sing. You can do this at work. We would sing along to the radio changing the lyrics making it rhymes singing about his rapes in vietnam. The top of our fucking lines loading loading and unloading drugs holler you like nineteen twenty. I remember he was like six and one day. I pissed him off any fucking threw a punch at like. I thought he was too far away. He was so fucking tall. It just kept coming at the last second one house. He fucking budgetary right in the back of the head. there was like i swear. There was like a person a workstation between me and him and all was lean forward. I remember yet. Yeah the keys. Any ad like debt. One of those fucking little exact was quick knives on his fuck and hip and he had had enough. I was running around christmas so every song. If i had a hammer crime that he would commit. I don't know but i i. That's the only people i could ever do. I only do people i ever worked with. You know club owners or something like that but even then but then the second. I leave after the weekend. I can't fuck a dorm anymore right. Yeah that happens. A wanted to be able to do impressions so bad when i started because i could do impressions of musicians of. I sang the song. Like i had a great Impression of eddie vedder. When i when i was in college i had long hair and i put my hat on backwards. Tuck my hair by mayors. And i started going even flow and i could get. I could get into it and everyone you like. You can't tell how. I feel like i was strong army. My impressions bulich fucking identical. But i think it was that i committed. They felt embarrassed not to like. They're like he's really like too. I did look like him. That the guy from the beefy twos. I used to do This is my impression of the fifty. Two singing. Jane says and i a giant says was gio awake. Does this happen you all the time. Jeff people do bad impressions back to you like my about a guy you never met ray eat doing. Yeah you dislike. I'm sure that's right on point. That's nice yeah you know. These are good impressions. There's there's no a bad. There's no bad impression really sure there is. You don't know the guy but this is what he sounded like. Yeah can you accents then like can you do like the perfect russian accent per like across not really i mean it just depends it depends sometimes. Sometimes i read this woman. We live next to his really talented but she was a fucking character she just said yeah like it was their anxiety thing like you come home. You go talk to you like yeah. Yeah yeah yeah as you were talking my favorite one was she. Would she said yeah. 'cause yeah when i was talking to one time she goes back. Is this like that. I remember when we moved into the house. The guy who sold it said. Yeah he goes. The neighbor says yeah lot the great disclaimer. I dropped something you. Where did you grow up. Where did you grow up in walnut creek california in the bay area so you don't kind of born without an accent. Yeah i guess yeah california. I say like a lot. Yeah i feel like. I feel like i wonder if it's harder for people that are like come from like texas like arguing just can you do. Is it an inappropriate to do. Black dudes good question. I don't know. I think you gotta get it. Just right. he with the voice if you just ends the makeup yeah he got a nail that But i do like east coast nike. Do this guy. Ronnie fucking ronnie dirge arden to nash. Like sure i used to wear pyjamas pajamas. Toy fucking realizing anywhere pajamas anymore. Shop wearing pajamas. You know it's it. You find yourself not listening to people in you. Just you're more trying to pick up on what they're doing you really. I don't really do it on purpose. I kinda liked just naturally study people. I think it just kinda just something. I find myself doing. I just imagined being other people. I think it's maybe the root of it while shape shifter from another planet coming to get you i'm coming to get. Yeah what's the name your podcast. The jefferson show. And you just bring on bring on a comic but then you do the character then all in all. It's basically the guys that i've never that my own show. And each week i get a guest host and that's like me doing an impression and then have the guest so the guest host interviews. So you when you're on with harland williams that's harland williams right yeah interesting and then And like with bill. We had louie. Louis what if you had louis who would you do. That's a good question. Maybe you do bill. it's get you down. i wanna learn you. I don't. I don't know if it's i don't know if i'm i don't think i'm ready to do it right now but the seems like the right time. Let's hear it. well i just. There is a moment that you said remember. When i said as louis. I was like like i said. What's your relationship with sunscreen. And you go. I don't have one. And then i go. Will you know they have. They have moisturizer. That has built in sunscreen. And you go. Yeah that's like shampoo when they put the conditioner and the shampoo together. It's never as good if you just have the shampoo or you just have the conditioner on their own says i can make. Trump is the worst i watched. I watched bill special with my girls the other night it was it was really fascinating to watch. Cause lianne is my wife has doubled over. Isla is lila's things it's hilarious and georgia's laughing but you can tell that her her son like when he goes out winning soccer something and you can tell georgia sixteen her social justice warrior pops up but as i'm watching it i'm like god damn it man. I bet there is an impression here like bill. Bill's laugh that. Got to open up at work on your impression when i'm not here. This is like the fucking brutal couple of guys. I've seen have done like did it better than me. A couple people like just people on the internet like random people. Yeah yes some guy. In germany i wife senate threw me. And i was just like whoa like he sounded exactly like me fun right. It's fun to hear yourself right. Yeah but you know what. I listen to too much because then you don't wanna start like either leaning into what they're doing or stop doing what you're still have to kind of be self would you don't you. You must find that a lot like people. Listen i love the impression. I can't listen to one that you're doing. I'm totally flattered. But i can't be then i'm like outside of me watching me. Yeah okay here you go you ready. I'm going to teach you how to do. An impression of the comedian bill. So put a hat on. So you look bald. Bill is so bold and you went to can and you know when you have the right and right. They're freaking holden. I'm chairman and i do impressions of comedians and shove schnitzel dumb face franken brutal the right not trying to fantasy bill that sound fuck. That was sounded amazing. Now that guy was like he dislike carbon copied. It like that was like the best one that i watch a bunch of them but like my wife came in. But you gotta see this. And i thought it was just thought he was mocking doing impressions in the beginning because his voice was so high up and then out of nowhere which was really a great misdirection. Then he came in. I was just like whoa all right. Let's see if there's a me no my my impression. I've always been insulted by an impression on me. So he's like me me me me me me me me me me like that. You're listening to you inside your head. That's why much the first time you listened recording a self according to your act like tummy voice was a lot deeper than that right. Donald was talking a lot slower. Go ninety miles an hour. I feel like i hit a took a hit a fucking helium. God i want. Jon favreau be a good impression because i feel like john got. He's super identifiable. you know. Bon john fabbro fab roby hard because his energy is like really super super chill. Like i got to work with them a couple times. And even if there's like a stressful thing going on he's just he's thinker man. He just like super smart and just kind of takes it in like really like Like i don't know really like measured like I just remember that because i- spire to be more like that rather than flying off the fucking handle like i want to this stupid. Little fly keeps go by my scrape. So wait how you you've been doing your podcast twice a week. No once a week by start at Once every other week workup impression. Yes just too much too much in book and all the gases you know is not easy to do and you script out pretty much all of your parts or get i'd chunks of ideas or do you just free form it. I write some questions couple people helped me with the questions. Kelly carson a couple of people. And i get the questions. Put it on the board some key words and then i just try not to go to the questions right away. Like with bill. I don't think we even got into a question halfway through or something. Now he was amazing. Us just riffing the whole time. Yeah thanks yeah. I can only walk. Short god vassals. That's what it is. It's back i was going up. It's back. he doesn't even doesn't move anything but but the elbow just about two inches which is on just this. This insist xiaomi laundry man. How often like like. How many times did you watch the few before you got that down you. Just start looking at demand. Li like high level acting. I feel like those impressions. Because i remember the first time. A joe rosa told me. I watched a sing john travolta and he showed how each of these different icon characters. He did how they walked a. He walks every fucking thing. I've ever done. The guy walked exactly like me right. And the fact that like character actors and impressionist that you guys get all the way like it's it's unreal can fucking zip up just somebody else. I don't know. I don't know how you guys do that. Shit hat my hats off to you to show you my bald head. Thank you ever do that. I think he just kinda get into it. And just you know just just because you don't have time to think with this show you time to think and you're trying to throw me off so all my friends come on. They're trying to throw me off right so so you got that challenge of it. It's fun. I just really hasn't throw you off. I just no good way your plant. You're playing with me. You know okay right so it's like you know you're trying to get me to break. You know i got one can. Can i throw out a scenario and a guy and maybe you can do it dry. Can you do dustin hoffman. If he was working security at the capitol when all those lunatics came in to break in the breaking the windows. Shit this is. This is dustin hoffman. Can you hear me coming in loud. It's dustin hoffman as so as we had a meltdown baby coming up to stop some of them repainted. And some of them got sticks. Summum got little tasers though. I don't know what the dough yeah bench. Wait on going around the corner wait. I'll be around the corner if you need me. Dustin hoffman climate. Sounds like berry cats. a little bit once owned It is what it is year. You woman to give you manager manager advice get added the business get out of the business. It outweigh you. Can you give me a broad as the best berry. Cats jeff at one point at one point. Yeah yeah brewers does a total tell you what honesty i do the best berry cats but you have to have enough mind fox from berry to get to get it. I let me hear it okay. so then i'll do mine. Everybody does a bear. So this is how berio is talked to me. Okay so jeff you play me and i'll be berry. Okay okay berry. Hey hold on hold on bear with me for a second bear with me for all right. Hey you drink last night. Yeah little bit. Why is that. The bad i drink lose it because i would mel down every time i'd be like i was drinking. I mean we got some weed and a little bit of coq. Jesus christ barry what do you want a fucking. It's a technique when you don't say anything to someone they just let let a meltdown. Yeah he wouldn't say of fucking word he just sit on the other end of the phone and i was like he's still there. I remember taking a meeting with that guy on his coffee table. Hit a book on mind. Control right out there in the open. Let me hit. He's to call me up like two months after. I left him a message on something important when he managed to me. It'd be like yeah. Bill this is gary cats calling a return your phone call from a stray sion. He did that joke. Every fucking time from the carter administration. Listen i'm all covering it okay. They decided the past. But don't worry you're going to be a big star k papa all right. I'll talk to you again soon. And then i wouldn't talk to them again for like fucking six months and i'd call them like a month after that would hear him from four months is very cats calling you back from the carter administration. He did the same fucking show every time. You're incredibly talented in year. You have a villa knees than i want to be able to exploit on hollywood. I want you to give yourself to me. And i'll make you our full good night. I'm still waiting around the on the bed yet. I would make sure when you get the check tonight. The college gig. You don't open it up. It's made out to me off my gonna be a big star of us as star mill the thing. I love about burt. He loves the pressure he. I'll tell you what man for as much as everyone shits on berry and right now is going people should only. I gave me some of those most moving speeches the most moving fucking like just his cadence could get into my head top yamashiro on to tell you a story about head. Deo nomo i tell you. What's great. can i tell you what's great is is. It was one of the best speeches. I've ever gotten don't know mortgage gets traded to the gets traded to the fucking red sox or whatever and he because he hasn't done anything in the first game out he throws a no hitter. Dino in hawaii threw a no hitter. they didn't see him and papa. No one expected anything from him. That's why you're gonna go in and you're going to book this fucking part you're gonna show last munez that you're a mother fucking rock star and then i booked goddamn part and i'm talking to someone like six years later. I'm telling him about buried cats and i started. Tell the story and he goes. You got the day on almost speech too. Ever worn time fought me the money. He owed for me at the one when they came to pay me back. I didn't know what they were talking about. I just just keep the fucking money. I don't give a shit. What is it seventy five bucks. Did some hell gig for you in new hampshire. Make it right. I'm trying to make it right. Well barry what did he didn't make it. You would have left with my money. Stop me now that you've fucking got all this. Money was predicting armani block in boston. Guys manyika thing. I love barry. I did his podcast one time. And i just should on him for fucking an hour and a half. And i don't think i've ever seen anybody enjoy more. He was dying laughing. I listen to podcasts. google podcasts. We had a great time. I love berry. I love very i would be business. I wanna open bucket lemonade. Stand with the joke. I said but i can hang out with him. And i love berg eleven. Oh body i don't know what happened. i came here. Also the lemons were gone. We don't have any more money. I just. I'm i'm sorry. Can you get rid of this. Stand for me. A big star. Someone told me someone. Campbell earl campbell. Got traded to the saints. Bum phillips in us had no hips left. What's going happen you here tonight. Fucking you fucking joke. Starring was it grower. Brewer told me and this is like the best especially like when you're young when your young client bury's like pompa how. 'bout the grammys. You wanna go and you're like we added. They invite me like am of course so when you get. They're going to have you put on waders suit. Listen here's the deal l. cables or the first thirty minutes and then they're gonna get you see you. He's a character. it's people that are characters are easy to kind of like. I don't think berries aware that he sounds like that even he doesn't sound like i'm just doing. I'm doing a bad impression of brewers amazing impression option. I don't know. I will one trick pony inanimate shit after fucking presence all right. We'll work in the so weird to end his podcast. Because nobody has any fucking gigs anymore. The jeff richard. Shell see on apple and all your streaming devices. Just if you go to the jefferson show dot com. Take it from there and Youtube and spotify and all those things. Yeah all right last question your favourite impression growing up to do just that you saw somebody do like when i was growing up. I love vinnie. Bob marino and ted baxter were my two favorite all. It's easy to grin when your ship comes in and you got the stock market beat wanted to mow my lawn in. He's got married when he was on mary. Tyler moore. I worked with a guy who had that fucking laugh in the way up top and then common down it was just fucking fucking bananas. So what about you when you growing up like. What were the ones phil hartmann. I of phil hartmann dana carvey ones. I love those. Those guys Like frank sinatra and You know all all dana carvey stuff. I really zoned in on him. As being like the one. I wanted to try to be like the most. Gotta every bike i think on the mount. He's on the mount rushmore. Belushi eddie dana carvey and. I don't know maybe we'll art arab or something like that. Yeah so many good ones. There are too many good ones. Didn't name any women there. So now i'm going to get shit. What about the ladies rivers and yours really great. Yeah sharyo cheri cheri. Oteri was great. Rachel dra- ch- is one of a sleeper. I i've always said the women. Debbie downer is one of the funniest characters adverse the funniest fucking. I mean mercer initial. I can't have kids. And i gotta say this before. I forget the guy does all the deepfakes scott welch Is doing the deepfakes frog area. Very reasonable price and It's awesome for yours. Yeah oh really yeah. that's awesome. yeah. I'm going to need to pay someone to do. Some deepfakes me to say some really outlandish shit to cover all the regular outlandish a name. I thought he was an snl cast member. Oh yeah yeah all right got a rabbit readily waiting for your rogan impression. Okay you start incubating all right. We got iraq. You guys everybody. Yeah dude i when this fucking thing is finally over you know what i mean. Thank god for schwarzenegger. Jesus christ did you see the logic disguise. Tweet now can just google it. Because i don't want to read it and ruin it. Because he fucking he just put it perfectly. Why should be listening to doctors. Hopefully you listen to doctors all right anyway. We have the wonderful jeff richards here. This has been another amazing episode of the bill for pod. Cast all right. Please please check out the jeff richards show on all your streaming networks that i all right next week.

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Ep. 3,087: UFC & Bellator cards recap, the NFL is back, Jon Fitch retires, more

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Ep. 3,087: UFC & Bellator cards recap, the NFL is back, Jon Fitch retires, more

"Title Roll Baby on May Junkie Radio with gorgeous Georgia go. This is what we do in why we do it baby. We're. Covering Ma from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and casino. In the fight capital of the World Las Vegas Nevada, the lights are on at the Mike Sir hot it's tied to get your ever may fix junkies take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready? Junkie. From the fight capital of the world inside our beautiful home in Mount it's the enemy junk radio show the only show that matters. I'm your host gorgeous Georgia with me as always is the devious industy goes well, some goes hello. Hello everybody. Hey. How about today Sunday? Football kicked off we kinda took our mind off a busy Ma weekend but that's always like a a favor day of the year, the officials starting day of the NFL. I have a couple of things to say before you tell people to buckle up OK NFL. At first. I wasn't digging it with. No fans was the first sport that I felt like just felt weird without fans But then I was getting into it, and then I'm trying to think we don't need preseason. The level of play was not that bad. Being wilco outweighs and I've always said four games is a lot. But I think two games nice. I saw a little bit of rest just a little bit little but but now considering you had no preseason considering I know he's good. Yes. Yeah. So we buckle up I haven't. Okay. So. Anyway that with the English premier league kicking off I. Mean it was really really an action packed weekend. and. You know we're slowly closing. Bidding due to the end of summer. To summer I should say. A lot of people say Labor Day man that's it. That's when the I think back in the Midwest they say the leaves Change Colour shut up. It's still hot out here man. people were still. In pools where they could be at beaches where they could be. And plus our birthdays at the end of September and I I've always wanted to be included a little bit in the summer not that I hate the fall. I love the fall in love. The fall is my favorite August winter's best winter I love winter. I don't I mean if someone throwing a blanket, you put on A. The heat sometimes you get hot, there's nothing you can do. With because out. True. One of your jacket. Yeah I guess. All right. So folks buckle up it's going to be a fundamentally Junkie Radio show as we can't built or two, forty, five, Bell Tortilla forty-six and of course the UFC. Fight Night whatever they call themselves. It's Watterson versus Hill Espn plus something fight night series number this. I don't know but we're GONNA go over of it. And it's going to be great show. So Of A? Gouda, let me go cigarette here. Just want her to drop in and tell you about a new show coming to enemy junk. It's our Lemus, MMA weekly Spanish language podcast dedicated to all things professional fighting on this show, we'll be covering the biggest news and topics of Emmy plus highlighting the most relevant stories happening in the growing. Latin American see. Lamy may will also feature interviews with some of the best fighters, coaches, personalities, and experts in the game you can find us every. Monday on your favorite podcast. Starting July light twenty-seven fuck you then. Before we officially dive into remain. I wouldn't mind. If. I know a lot of how to reach us on social media. I sure would love to know your team now. Don't. Your four known go by the way that's my squad I'd like to know who you're rooting for. I'll remember some of them. Some I won't some will just be. refresher because I know that. I know a lot of junky nation and who they root for Longtime. Junkie Buffalo Blue Route's for the Carolina Panthers. Longtime listener of the show. Dante from the San. Fernando. Valley. He amazingly I don't know it doesn't make no sense to me, but he's Indianapolis Fan. he was an ALZ fan. An ultimatum yeah. So what happened was he had two teams He liked the chargers and the colts. But. So he just an old team but when the chargers left San Diego, he said forget them. I'm just in Indy Fan. So now he is in San Diego left two or three years ago right and all the time I've known them for like ten years or so I've never heard once bring up the chargers or even seen them wear like a lightning bolt. That must have never seen him where but he would be Kinda for both of them and then but he always said like Indianapolis is the one what is What is old small, the bolts and the cold And old span at all tone. Okay. Yeah. So yeah. I. Mean just tells on Social Media Hey I listen to junkie radio I'm at MMA junkie Jordan on Instagram and twitter. And then I'm on facebook as well. I, mean if you go to Junkie Page, you see me commenting as Gorgeous George. On the Junkie Page and at the goes on Twitter O. Z.. Instagram T. H. G. O. Z.. You want to know my idea football. Sure K.. So I don't think we need a preseason anymore. But here's what I would like to see. Happen you now their spring training in baseball zero preseason I'm saying zero preseason so you know how there's A. Spring Training and baseball I. Say you just pick a bunch of places in the US and do almost four groups to send four teams just say Arizona Wherever Right And those four teams they scrimmage just happens or something like that. So you show up and let you say in one do that anyway. Minnow. Yeah. But fans are allowed to come out. Okay. So it's like A. Four team. So you have, let's say the Buffalo Bills, the San Francisco, Forty niners though football club and the bearish right. So in one, you pay a ticket you get to see. Two teams, scrimmage a day, and then the next day different teams are not next day but you know a couple of days later, something like that and you make it like a fan experience right? I. Seen a few of those scrimmages on hard knocks or whatever they're fun. They're usually not all the way padded I believe. They're PATTA. They just don't I think you can't hit the quarterback. I think is the only role, right? Well I've seen them without the the pads I've seen and was shoulder pads and helmets what What I would like is, I think I think mostly the exhibition is where you find out hey, who's that fifth or sixth linebacker were keeping WHO's at sixth or seventh or Eighth DB where keeping depending on the defensive package? Iran who's that tenth? Lineman verses the third tight end you know some right or run wide receiver spread some are more are running you know running oriented. So I think that's where they get their looks the you'll notice especially towards the end like week four you'll see the starters come out and run one series and they sit week three. They'll usually make it to the half that's kind of the apex of what they're going to show you. And then week four that's it because you're you're playing a little bit of the injury game more than likely quantities like or three, one and two, yet they're just easing into it. So I think who would be good and I think that's what they were trying to negotiate was, hey, give us eighteen weeks during the regular season, but we'll take to off here and I'm like, no that's not what we want the players already at their Max, and we already adjusted the record book one time from Fourteen Games to sixteen games. So when guys rushed for like when? OJ Simpson rushed for two thousand yards was like two, thousand and three the amount of the year. He did that in fourteen year games fourteen game right and then they went to sixteen a few started rushing for two thousand what yeah you had the extra two games what I'm saying. So we already adjusted a once dirty forty years ago. I wouldn't WanNa do it again and That's why cy youngs record will never be broken by the way the guy would pitch like a lot five hundred eleven wins known even gets over three hundred now. So What I would like to see him do as a second bye week. So you WANNA stretch the season out US fans we you may have a bye week a second by week, but we still get football 'cause other teams are playing. So the League still generating money the teams are going, but we still only have our sixteen weeks. We'll sure. But I think you can get a little bit out of television. You know but but I I don't know that I wanna see them play another week. I. Think the we already make it to the finish line with a lot of injuries unless you're gonNA, expand the roster's maybe a little bit. but. I at least two exhibition games I if we ever make it to goes eight zero I I don't know what the see what it's like but let's ease into it but that's all we had this year are the way I had fun watching ball today well, my team loss but I still I watched a competitive game and and I saw some other competitive games and that was fine and I'm not even a fantasy football player anymore I'm just a little light gambler but I just needed that I'm an tightest into enemy. Okay. This is a trap. Really what I want to get is comments Dana. White made a while back ago about an hour majors being the biggest sport in the world overtaking football overtaking soccer. Never GonNa Happen And even today just seeing the buzz around week one. It's just it's so much bigger. I think than even most big fight cards. So many people I mean even like even girls that that don't normally why like they have their team, they throw in their jersey, they're talking about you know their fantasy. To your favorite shopping the worrying their jerseys like employee day where you get to where you're jersey, and I think of you wear one, you get five percent off I. Don't know but you're not gonna catch me will never catch soccer right what I'll give you if things were to just completely blow up maybe you didn't catch the big four here. No, no calls getting caught but while I'm saying you're. Yeah. You're nowhere close to it. You can only catch baseball. Hockey. Because they're dwindling but they're still popular especially again if you I mean. You know I don't know. Pros I'm talking about. And what's the other one basketball? Let's Kinda worldwide that one's a tough one to man. All right. Let's talk some. MMA WE START OFF on Friday with Bell Tower to forty five, Redo some results I'll. Talk about the fights that include names that we all recognize keithly he's a friend of the show. He climbed seven and three. He defeated Vinicius Johnny be a decision. That's Kevin. Lease younger brother He's been in our studio. We've seen him. We've met him when he couldn't come to the studio because he wasn't even twenty one. we call this fights tough enough enough. So we'll always root for keithly. Sweet kid man honestly Tiro Fortune. Versus Jack May. These are two guys big heavy weights that we know. Jack. May Cause we call this fights beat. And IRA? Fortune. Is a NC two, A. Wrestler who's been coming along. He got by to Johnson took his I lost a few months ago. He's looking at bounced back but that fight ended. In. No contests accidental low blow in the first round. So hopefully, they run it back I mean I don't mind the pairing Leslie. Smith. Got A winner Amanda. Bell Leslie Smith Says Hey it'd be an honor to fight in Ghana all right Alex police seat defeated Hoffy Carraro Corral. The former middleweight champion for ballatore. So that's that's a big loss to him because. Again, these divisions aren't that deep over bell tour, and if you WANNA get a title shot like Michelle Waterson requesting an all address that later on. It's not inconceivable bell toward just. When you lose a big fight, win two in a row and your your seriously being talked about maybe with the exception of the federal Eytan while toy division, they're a little deeper. But he lost. So that's a huge loss for him. Raymond. Daniels and Peter. Stana stanic. That ended in an accidental low blow as well. That's what we. Not, we're getting Chrysler. So that what what that ended up being was a testicular contusion. But the testicle. Yeah but. I've never seen anything like that I mean. It was brutal. The poor head was rolling around agreement. Not. He's rolling around. Scream gotta Hey Paula Abdul Dances. I duNNo. I I can do that I can do all of that. So silly to me what she does, he used to be a laker girl everybody respected or do you can't do that so it's the dumbest things. I. Am instructed it was it was probably the worst of oversee and and reaction to it was just so uncomfortable I felt so bad for that kid man, it was brutal. Yeah. All right. So that ended in an accidental low blow than Taylor Johnson defeated Ed Ruth Ed Ruth came along around the same time as tyro fortune. At Ruth. I know a little bit more about him. He's from Penn state national champion. He's now eating three. He was part of that welterweight grand. Prix. But now he's had those three losses when they nowhere like I wonder if he could be the next big thing all a pseudo. You. Know a wrestler with huge accolades. Then transferring over actually came to the student wants did an. Did an in studio interview in Super Cool Dude but he just get friend Richard Hunters. Right. Yeah Submission via, he'll look he just has these holes. He needs to plug because what I've seen shows me promise I hope it doesn't give up on himself. But. Taylor. Johnson moves on. Next One Cazin Garnell defeated Gabrielle Holloway. I couldn't have been more board. I've always liked canton Gano because she's got dislike. I always use the word Swag and what by that I mean like an edge tour. An edge worse. You can tell she's trying to be lady like you can tell she's trying to be professional. You can tell she's trying to say the right things, the way, her managers or her advisors of told her how you speak you know because you never know who if there might be a potential advertiser or you don't WanNa make the promotion look bad but then at the Same time, she wants to be yourself and she'll just go I fucked up. You know she just let's go like that and she just I don't know plus how can you not always kind of have a soft spot for someone who's been through so much tragedy you know her husband took his own life years ago they were in our studio. We got to meet that guy's name was Maurice. Zingani Zenana a Brazilian to Black Belt So You Know He. Like I. Say she had overcome that she had a little son. And and I remember at manly she had a great fight with me should take I mean it was just Pulling out favorite female fights. person's really good. Yeah. Violent and she always had that thing where. Hey who Amanda Nunes is like fourteen and one in the AFC and that's the answer to your trivia question who gave her the loss cats in Ghana. So you always felt like if she could bounce back from that fourteen second loss thirteen second loss to Ronda Rousey and get a couple of wins. She had the perfect card to play against the man that hey, you you know and maybe Amanda Would WanNA event that I don't know. But she just kept losing fights and. She didn't really settle in on a division. Apparently she's been battling a lot of health issues. And look this almost sounds terrible because she won the fight but. I think she could have made a big splash out there bell tour and instantly like. Instantly just. Go out smoke this Holloway. Lady. who was six and five coming in, and then maybe get a shot at Cyborg you know life changes. If she beats Cyborg I don't think she can beat her but. you know. As. You can see a little more warmed Leslie Smithers is Captain Gone. CYBORG, they already announced the fight for her anyway. So yeah. Let's get these two veterans. WHO HAS IT SMITH IN GONE? Let's pray. That in Ghana wins because we've already seen Smith versus CYBORG and that didn't go well for Smith I don't WanNa see it again. At least I haven't seen Zingani Cyborg and I have a feeling that it would be very similar. But until it happens, you know who knows because in Ghana. On the ground is not bad now that said so the cyborgs I was pretty much good at everything. All right. So now we get to fill Davis versus the Auto Machida the main event and again. I wasn't impressed entertaining fire right? Right. These guys. Not that they don't deserve the money they get. They've spilled a lot of blood. Shed a lot of tears. They've put their bodies through the ringer, not training camps, but with Weight cuts you know getting beat up all that Shit. So when you hear about some of the money that bill tour rights for them to come over to the UC. You get excited 'cause a good second promotion pushes UC to get better. But I haven't seen a lot of these guys and gals deliver goes for Bell battle-torn I feel bad for bell tour because they're fucking doing their end of the writing the big checks. Saying, go ahead express yourself. You WanNa you WANNA come down with bitches and an umbrella. You WanNa be a pimp cool used to be in the military right man we'll put we'll put the American flag and some tanks and you can come on your fatigues. Cool. Oh, you know you're a martial arts, you WANNA come out and your key you know art. Cool. Whatever it's like they really give you the platform to give to be your best and like the shackles are gone and not all of them but a lot of. Just I don't know man the a lack that fire the fire that they used to have that. We all know them to have and I think it's because they get that initial payday so much more than probably what they used to get. I think they just Kinda lose it, and like you said, you can lose a fight and UFC of us a fight. You're really soul-searching trying to figure out God I gotTa go through three four five more guys just to get the shot ever again you said it yourself earlier and you're right. To fights you're right back where you need to be in most divisions almost all of the division. Let's be honest. So I think there's just not that. From fighters and they have been champs the Oto. Their wars bell tour could it be like they don't really know the bell like I don't even think they get pay per view cuts because. Rarely do they have a pay per view? So I don't know if they get some sort of a bonus for being a champ I don't know if the belt means anything. But how can you incentivize guys and girls to go out there and make sure Hey Man. I gotTa Win this next fight and I have the answer but unless you want to answer it. I would say. That first initial paycheck Shin be that big and I think being champs to get you a lot more money. Is the only way to keep it. That's what gets them over is that first initial but now the US's being a little bit more hardball with you know we'll get to that even later in the show will here's what I was getting that. Grand Prix. With a million dollar payday get some big sponsor. To award, these fighters a million buck I think everyone I saw it for the way and at Heavyweight and welter. Although only two of them got millions right the feather or the feathers not done. The welterweight got a million heavyweights didn't but I think something like that might be enough to go. Hey, look. They already came out with the brackets. There's eight of us three hard camps I just got to push myself to go out there and fucking give it my all I think maybe that might be it and. Many Michael Are you fucking nuts George of you lost it? No I haven't not why. I think I was more excited goals for Grand Pres in the pride era than actual title shots not that I wasn't excited about title shots. But how many times do we ever go? He was a five time pride champion he won the bell he had four title defence. I don't think most people can remember how many title defenses fade or really had 'cause somewhere non-title some were. Maria those. Those clown fights complex addition fights hung men choy, and so yeah and but but remember I still remember like the Open Grand Prix, the middleweight Grand Prix when they would release who was in it we'd all go why how something like that Ryan Ben in Frank trigg would talk about for a whole hour talking about and we're taking calls and who do you WanNa see you know stuff like that. Grand Prix think is something maybe bell? Torque. Just do you know and maybe you? It's nice if they start January and then December I mean. PF L. has something like that. It's the season in the tournament I need to just go straight tournament. Award, a million dollars and then. If there's injuries you stagger around, and then the next year starts differently but. Granted if you get eliminated, what do you do? Well, some some guys and gals can just take fights You know wouldn't be much pay check Congo bigger names could be rewarded in these grannies. I agree because really. I'm sitting there watching bell storm giving them my all on Friday and Saturday on delay by the way. And I? I just think the fighters let down the promotion because I think the promotion tries. Scott Coker hand like a fucking five man team was like a basketball team over at strikeforce and they got fans really excited about their cards. They just shove staggered their cars to like Paul Daley. He's fighting some guy in Italy or Paris. I should go countries, Italy or France because they have two cards coming up Italy and France. And the other Guy Michael Vana page he's fighting someone else put them against each other. What are we waiting for? You know what? I mean. One guy's already threatening to retire I think daily say and that's it three more don or something like that. What the fuck are we waiting for? have no idea. You know I like Congo versus Johnson are call Johnson's on a roll. I'd rather have Congo versus Baiter and just run back back settled that one. But. I'm telling you. There's really really frustrating moments. But anyway. That was there you go. That was Bell Tower on Friday Night Phil Davis One I honestly thought Machida one thought he. The. Twenty nine, twenty, eight. But I mean it wasn't one of those were I wanted to. The bell or headquarters like I just accepted decision. And Bar we're going to get to that that same feeling almost with the U. of C.. We are. So let's go. Let's go bell tour again, and we'll finish up with UC belt or to forty six the next day. Bill tour took thirty, six, Saturday all of a sudden Cassville Connecticut. The Mohegan Sun that's that's built towards home. And We had let's see here debut on Franklin beat Ross Hilton. Tie. Gordon are defeated George Tokyo's Daniel. Madrid defeated Pat Casey and Kiani digs defeated Democrat compos i. sort of God when I bet against their compos. He wins when I bet on them, he loses. Guy Man Liz, Karma Deanna Bennett. Neiman Gracie. Retired. You could say John Fitch Heat them and then Jon Fitch Retired And want arch Aleta defeated patchy mix in the main event. So I think we can pretty much skip to. Got Anything to say about Kiani digs versus Derek composts or lose Karma versus the Bennett well, just when you tie in Liz Car Moosh, you look at cats in Ghana is car moose. Big signings for them for females and neither one of them. Really. Looked all that great musgrave Carmen. So she got the finish but the fight itself wasn't that great and there were moments where she got taken down put on her back so. I've Kinda feel bad for them. Sometimes you know with. The way some of these pan out but That's all I wanted to about this. Yeah. All right NEAT Niemann Greasy. Beat John Vich submission heel hook happened in around two. towards the end Jon Fitch usually was one of those guys that was very, very difficult to submit. I remember at W. S. O. F. We got to see Josh Berkman submit them and. Can't remember Berkman even WanNa title from that or what but I was I remember going all the WHO because Fitch was just one of those guys that was really really hard to submit mostly because he was always on top beating the shit everybody. But interesting career. Glad. He got grab the major belt I. Know People Are GonNa go. It's W. now man that's a promotion that's got a lot of resources and a lot of money and they signed some good fighters and that's about that you have to. Respectfully. to talk about it like that. You Know David Branch wore one just engaging Marlin Ryan's Jon Fitch. They wore these belts and. Deservedly so at the called a major bell, just like the WGC, just like the NFL is it a UFC? No, of course, not no one saying that and is it a pride? No nobody's saying that either. But still he won a belt, it was a huge moment for him So he accomplish that he got a lot of skins on his wall. He just happened to be in the AFC at the same time as GOP. Yeah I mean I think overall you had a good career I thought it was a fun fight with team Gracie. Just 'cause it was pretty tactical but you could almost see that that ending coming it was kind of funny when they were talking not talking tonight but just talk to each other. I mean he's a good guy it's nicer Josh Thompson. was there a lot? If you see twitter, a lot of people come into to support. The Guy Yeah forty, two, forty, three. So it was time. Want Archer let defeated patchy mixed goes I. got that one wrong. Mix. If he takes his back or just dominant position I, thought he could finish one archer Lettuce Warner chocolate as. How. Do I say this without disrespecting them? I think he's pretty good. A lot of things what he's not. A. Difficult puzzle to solve you kind of know what he's GonNa do you know what I mean but patchy mix like he's just going to be up over time patchy makes the threat of just really really. High high to me seems like level Jitsu Couple Times he did take the back but he had moments now he had his moments you just didn't capitalize. Lot of experience to artillery away more finance, he's twenty five and two patchy makes us thirteen Lonzo not twice as many but. Almost. One is always been the opposite. He just sometimes brain fart doesn't capitalize on his moments, but this is the one time where he was able to put everything together and worked from an he's got a belt now. So cool. Yeah. I. Agree. CONGRATS. So now belt or has a bantamweight champion. Bill to add another announcement. I duNNo. If it was during Fi- weaker now, weddings Chris cyborgs an opponent. And then we know DOUGLAS IS GONNA move up to fight Saucy, and I'm not a big fan of. Champ Champs. Because you leave a division behind. Sometimes. It makes sense about thirty minutes ago I. Actually tweeted. Henry Pseudo really wants to fight woken off ski and I don't be Holloway deserves it so i. You know I'm warm to it. I'd rather have Holloway fight cater or wants Z.. For Gopher it I mean, he already let go the one, twenty, five belt and the one thirty, five belt. So it's not holding that up he's going for greatness. All right. Cool. Kinda earned it. You know he made something of his persona and he's one fights and he's been finishing he fought tough dudes that were bigger than him. plus in the meantime it looks like Zambia Year, we're GONNA do their thing you already got the Zombie and. Set Up. So I'm like if you're GONNA, do it pick a date sometime in November let's fucking get it over with and then let those guys that really deserve it. The the caters is a beats the years all them someone be rewarded with an actual title shot to start twenty twenty one that's the only way. Now, go guess what it's welcome ASCII versus who next June I'd be like fuck because then that holds everything up all because of this guy chasing a dream that's when all of a sudden his dream interrupts the flow. Of. A whole division. That's when I have a problem with it. I would only be down with it under those circumstances just because the guys that are trailing are just so even the four of them that it would be nice to kind of see fight play out and then something really happen. Yeah. Now Bella Tornado middleweight champ but I don't think they need a champ champ I'm not saying I think. I. Would Still Take Moussawi over Lima but I don't know 'cause Lima's really been good lately but Lima's in a division that's got. well. Guys in their fish just retired and ruth took a loss. But I guess Neiman Gracie, MVP I, Dunno whoever Arkan the Rensselaer, and that's that's the one. Get them in there. Get them fighting. That's the division that's got activity. Let the division. Sorry the champ defend fill the middleweight with someone else You know I don't know. But. Whatever on the one hand? I'm saying he was great fights. That is a great fight. So maybe I should just shut. Your hard to please Moving on. Moving. The sneak is true crime podcast from for the win in USA Today, and this season is on a surfing champion. His life took a violent tragic turn but then thirty seconds, they're both dead the sneak murders. Whiskey Creek is July twenty ninth wherever you get podcasts. Beltway out of the way. Let's talk about you see it was an ESPN plus show. Waterson versus hill was the main event member. This was gonna be theatrical. Santos versus glove to share to share. Got Kobe. We hope. For, quick, recovery and I would love to see that pairing. Book Soon Nights started off with Jalen Turner defeated Brock. No wrong So being muscle defeated Justin Kish these were flyweights goodwin for Sabina motto nine in one. Now just in Kish falls a seven three Brian. Barberini. On vinnie Bob Marino. He's fifteen and seven. He defeated Anthony Ivy who felled eight and four. Jalen. Went to ten and five, he defeated Brock Weaver. The Barberini five was a Welsh fight. However, the Turner we refi fight was fight at one, sixty, five We had two submissions there within those first three fights. Any comments goes on Barbara, arena turner motto. I thought the Turner fight was interesting Brock Weaver took a lot of shots. There was one where there was almost like a a walk off where he probably could've finished. The officiating. That night was kind of awful. It'll be a little strange a lot. A lot of weird little things happened but I don't know brock levers the guy that came from contenders and a lot of people thought he had some promise and thought he would kind of fit in a little bit but it hasn't really worked out too well for having our own. Attorneys Fun to watch moving on Alexander romanoff defeated Roque Martinez Romanoff is now twelve know Martinez is fifteen and six. It was an arm triangle around two. These were heavyweights Kevin crew. Steps up man he fights see wins he's twenty, two and twelve. Now he defeated Roosevelt Roberts who fell to ten and three. These were lights light weights and it was a standing guillotine choke I'll tell you what. Roosevelt rough. impressed. The hell out of me in Jacksonville he's lost two cents goes. I know it's weird. Yeah. The stock drought drop big. He's a Florida kid if I'm. Not. Mistaken, there Roberts. CRA eubanks, defeated Julia of. Now a decision and went three rounds. These are bantamweight any thoughts on eubanks croom or Romanov eubanks I think somebody that if she just had a little bit better luck I mean. She just turned things around for the better I think she could be somebody that I see a lot of people like online I see a lot of people get behind her Hopefully, she turns a corner crew was slick. Fifty thousand dollar bonus for him for submission of the night. We move on. By Carlos Pretty. Good actually. Yeah. We're not even at the at the main stuff here billy quarantine defeated Kyle Nelson. This was a Ko big right cross. He landed on him in the in the third round he goes the fifteen into falling Falling to thirteen enforce Kyle Nelson Bobby Green defeated Allen Patrick Green now twenty seven and ten Patrick fell to fifteen and three green by the way won three fights in four months. Big Big summer for him. Guy had some injuries personal problems. In used to go a year and a half without fighting and now three and four months. Show money. And Win Bony when money's me three times. He usually makes it entertain got opponents, Oscar right Oh he might have. Yeah. I can look it up and And he's had a rough story. We know we know him from the so cal days. So I'm happy for him. Honestly you have has another decision to make and it's kind of along the lines of He has this type of style and this type of swag doom reminds me a little bit of Maswadeh where. If, you promote him properly. I'm not saying he could be a super megastar anything like that but he could be a lot bigger than what he is. I think as long as he stays healthy. Fights on like that I would agree. Ed Herman defeated Mike Rodriguez. Look I like it I remember he didn't win that fight. He's going to be the. The Victor Record Climbing to twenty five and fourteen Rodriguez falling to eleven and five. But I thought Rodriguez finished on what those shots to the body Ludicrous Tony who we've known for a while because he's called fights all the way from top of got promoted to the professionals I thought for the most part is done a good job. I don't remember too many glaring mistakes, but this one was bad I wish Dana wouldn't just. I guess you have to compare in a Maserati, but what happens is Dana has got such a powerful influence. I just hope he doesn't bury this guy Because it was a bad call but I don't think it makes him a horrific raff either but he's he's adding fuel to the fire because. You'RE GONNA see. Cristiani. Probably this coming weekend. You'RE GONNA to see him over and over and over again all you're doing is probably damaging dudes Convert confident. So. it was a mistake. He's he's the type of guy that I think will own up to it. So you just move on a really really sucks. So for Rodriguez, at Herman kind of crack me up I'm glad they asked him in the post flight you know but. Growing on my body, Phychi know that have to go back and watch it like. I was in so much pain. I don't know where he got me. You know but even then I. Remember getting hit in the Nano. Right. There's not one day where you go. Nuts. If you hit, you remember that ship for about a month two weeks who knows right right. But it was just kind of funny to see him play along I can't hate them do that candidate I've always liked a lot of people would have done. The same thing in that situation is not as fault but basically, he was in pain from the two shots to the body. One was a or were. They know they were both knees? That manual spun arm all the way around and he's not hurt by the way they said Rodriguez his arm is alright. So the shoulders okay. an Rodriguez goes home with a window. So props the Dina for paying his bonus and acknowledging that what he was saying was even more reasons to really get to be able to use the instant replay cause instant replays used at the end of the fight. And in this case with that big time out and everyone looking up and seeing that they were shots to the body with Dana. Saying can we it now? That's a whole other conversation that we can't spend now and I off the top of my head. It sounds like. Like a good idea. But at the time. man we would be stopping a lot of fights folks and. I've seen what it's done. Basketball football and baseball and then people complain the fucking nights too long you know what I mean. Yeah. This is Deborah Finger pokes and. You get you get a bad call, a clipper game they're going to play tomorrow the next day I. Know they'll be right back. This is a little different. This was I'm okay with doing that. Yeah. and I wanted to be across the board all commissions. The Boo you gotta sit there and watch fight for you. All right. So we got the Herman Green and corn until anything else on on any of them goes before move thousand. Good Win for Korn. Tila Yeah. and since I, really one of the bonuses is a legal mall So croom got fifty grand for that sub and then as the tar fifty grand for his knockout of Ottoman of comma. Worthy. In fact why I do that because I spoiled that. As we move on Roxanne modifier he defeated Andrea Lee Jews a big underdog I better. I won money I'm GonNa give her a high five the next time I see Roxie Andrey lease, pretty solid all the way around except she just tires you should pick up trash with her I bet she would really like that. You ever seen that? No, I think almost every day she goes out and just picks up trash in Vegas. Has Our neighborhood or she picks differently I think kind of roughly around her neighborhood. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I think I mean if I had that little. What is it like a little level where you clip it was like an extension of. What do you call it the hoof? It's like a little robot hand. Yeah. Something like that lasker gloves. Go back once the bags full I'm done I do it. Sure. I just don't want some drug needle Polka me or whatever. But yeah, I think. That's what the. The grabber is right. What's the official name of that grabber? Cloudy Cooler sentencing that I don't know. Yeah, it like tongs right that that affect Kinda anchor. All right. So she wins and. We move onto Ottoman as Atar. atman excuse me defeated Comma worthing. Beautiful Kale TKO stoppage. In, round one, these guys have been talking it up man. And by the way wrote rocks what very now twenty, five and seventeen I think she fought as a thirty eight year old by the way lease eleven and five as a thirteen and overall or the false sixteen in seven. That was the coming event we get to the main event. Michelle waterson defeated Angelil Michelle Watson goes eighteen and eight. His twelve and nine. These were five rounds. It was a split decision. I thought he'll one me too I thought it was pretty close by. The. Way Hill. Close in the last fifteen seconds she kinda Nian and. Thrown some shots against the cage I thought that was enough that. it was just enough because it was that close and that's why like a lot of people online were saying I. got it wrong. You did this like I don't know that I thought hill one but I can't even say like. It, it's just that close that you really have to pick that type of fight with a fine comb. And I I don't think you can really say robbery or somebody. Got It. Wrong. That close. Yeah I'd love to see him do it again though. ME. To here's how the judges had it. The. I guess it didn't matter what Saudi Amato he turned in four tens for Waterson. and. So his car didn't matter by that I mean that. Even if he give hill that round, she still loses on his card. However, Christly Derek leary were identical they both had. Ten nine ten nine for hill in rounds one, and two, ten, nine, and nine for Waterson in rounds three or four. That's waterson started taking her to the ground. That's where I. that's exactly how I. had it meet and but I thought after round four for sure. But even after round three, I said, wow, if Michelle can keep doing this, she's GonNa win this fight. Because he'll had no answer now the ground. Yeah and then in rounds five league gave Hill Round Five. Cleary gave Waterson Round Five D'Amato had already given waterson the fight basically so it didn't matter. It's just I guess if he gives hill round five, she wins now the media scores we had about twenty media turn in cards it was about fifty fifty man for Watterson. And anhil. We did have pretty much ninety, percent ninety, five, ninety, nine, percent either forty eight, forty sevens. So shout outs to. All these people that turned in their cards, Morocco over their enemy fighting good friend of the show. including him Sean Sheen from severe. I remember him. He's good Nick Baldwin. I've always liked that guy from the score. So you know very, very familiar names. We did at one maniac drake. Rigs. From the body lock, he had forty, nine, forty, six waterson have I'm calling him a meeting I'm calling style D'Amato Maniac Saudi models been in our studio very, very nice. Man respect the judge. I disagree that. That waterson one round too. But I don't think he's Amini so I take it back on drake rigs I guess he's not a maniac. Now, he's just I just disagree with this scorecard I mean. I just don't. I don't see how you wouldn't give round one into to hell yeah. Same. Same thing the other way for three and four. This was these were strawweights I wouldn't say it was like you WanNa and John Wiley but they fuck and went to the end. They showed a lot of heart they emptied the gas tank. If I were to walk behind the curtain and see them both hooked up diabetes I would believe it because. That's what I like to see of you know putting it all out there and giving it your best till the very end both ladies wanted to win and it's unfortunate. One hat only one could win. but they both got bonus I. What Dana why did say was that? No one stock dropped. Let's get. Yeah. Hill now has lost the gut daily fight and the WATTERSON fight there've been talking by. Yeah and. Both were you had credible journalists scoring for hill but she hasn't gotten either one. So I don't the hill do she must be beloved by the UC she stepped up on eight noticed so many times. She can afford a bump like this. You know. Yeah. I. Mean She doesn't have the prettiest record but still and you know he'll wear to retire today. She still has INVICTA belt. I like that little Vignette that they gave her where she was just kind of explaining. It was way before they I think they even got to the main card, but just talking about how she came into martial arts and she was a fighter i. Even know that. You and I saw land firing I. Think. So yeah. I'm almost positive with it. So that folks is the UC. Fi Card, it really was good and a man, this weekend's by the way which will talk about on the Thursday show is a really good card. So. The UC's picking up some old minimum as they do contender series. On Tuesday. So we just had the great fight car on Saturday that we just talked about contender series on Tuesday. Then they got the fight card with Colby and Tyron Thou on solid. And after that they suspend. Contenders. So as the last contenders. Until, they come back in five weeks price something like six weeks in November sometime they come back from fight island. And then they'll renew it and finish out the season because I think they want to do their ten episodes. and in five fight island it all starts on September twenty, six with UC to fifty, three, izzy versus Kosta. Then they have three fight nights at fight island and then they have, UFC, two, fifty, four, which I think is October twenty fourth with gay G. Versus Habib Dana. Says he's going to be out there for all five weeks and he's there's going to be the fight cards remember last time they they floor e four year because they're the ones they show the do three another thing he clarified the second one, the gauge e Habib is GonNa be prime time for Europe. So we're going to get one of those bj Penn Joe Stevenson from Newcastle's were were watching a title fight at noon over here. That's not so bad. I don't care. Yeah I'm down now whether to I'll just be watching some college football with it. So. Those are really all the details you can give us because he hasn't put any details. Have you noticed they haven't really publicize these cards too much Jon, Morgan as Dino like something a little bit more official than we're going. He said. Almost, something like shut up and wait in a coming but today's yesterday was September twelve. And this card is on two weeks later, like you would think, we would see a little bit more ship soon, they gotta start flying there and filming the. The film beds and ultimate fighter when they come back to. I know it's a big yawn or for me. I'm starting at just thinking like, oh good for you. You know what I mean. So anyway folks. That's kind of it right there. Man That's that's you have sir. Let's Junkie Radio. On a Sunday night. Sunday September thirteenth hopefully enjoyed. The first Sunday of the NFL, the English premier league came back. Same. Thing man you adopted a team. Let us know who it is. Man You doesn't play till next week. Because they had. Some extended play in the summer tournament. So they were given an extra week off to recover. And congrats to the Lakers they made it to the Western Conference finals. I've never said that in September, before the nuggets are showing heart goes they were down three one and down twenty in the in the in game five, I was longtime listener of Junkie rate even he listens still he these the calm fish, but it's slick rick. He I found him on twitter. and. I was like Tottenham have fun fishing you know and they came back and won and they won a couple more times it's now three three in they have a game four man against the clippers. So shot out to them. One last thing man, these fires, California Washington count. In California Fuck, my heart goes out to you if you've been affected in any way not just by. The fire itself attacking your home. Of course, you know those are the biggest. Let's us. Those are the saddest stories one here. But to all the firefighters that are out there. I mean these these are like every year we say this, but I believe the records have been broken for the amount of acres that have just been ravaged lives lost homes. destroyed. So a big shot up to those brave firefighters that are out there just battling man anyone that's been affected by the homes and like I was telling goes. About, ten years ago. Our mom drove on a freeway through through a kind of like Valley I. Guess The freeway splits to mountains in there was a fire. and. Just her driving through which took about twenty minutes. She had this lingering cough for like a week. I can only imagine these people man what that That what's it called the not the carbon. The, you know the the actual smoke inhalation con God man you know are affected like that too man. I hope you have a smooth recovery 'cause that's brutal. We didn't interview with Eric Del, Fuego who's fighting that fire on the aircraft carrier. And he was talking about how closely was the retirement and like. God. He's had to work pretty hard to. Twenty twenty man. Yeah covert and because of that. So folks we're GonNa Bounce on Outta here that's our recap of the weekend and don't forget to join US Wednesday. At. Noon eastern nine am Pacific for live Junkie Radio Show on sportscaster. we don't have a guest yet, but we have every week last week we had Joe Luzon. And Again it's live it's on video and the last one hour. Meantime. We're going to balance out of here. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and go out there. And

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