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Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro League Baseball Museum

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Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro League Baseball Museum

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So, this year's Bullseye Baseball Week is going to be a little different to we're GonNa talk about baseball's history I up an interview with Bob Kendrick Bob is the president of the Negro League Baseball Museum. He's had that job for almost a decade. The MLB M is pretty much the only place in the world dedicated to telling the story of the Negro Leagues. The leagues that gave rise to players like Hank Aaron Jackie Robinson. Willie mays and Satchel page not to mention of course, the many players who were never allowed to play major league. Baseball. Bob and I had a really great conversation so I won't say much more than that because I want to get out of the way but. I'll just say that even if you aren't a fan of baseball I, really encourage you to hear what Bob has to say about this remarkable piece of America. Let's listen. I. Welcome to both I am so grateful to have you on the show. I certainly appreciate the opportunity to join you. Thanks for having me. So Bob, this is the one hundred th anniversary of the start of the Negro Leagues and I want to talk about the Negro Leagues in a minute but it occurred to me that I should ask. In what context were African Americans and other dark skinned people in the United States playing professional baseball before a hundred years ago before nineteen twenty. Professional baseball goes back decades before that. Oh absolutely and African Americans. Playing professional baseball goes well before the actual formation of the Negro Leagues here in Kansas City in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty. Jesse we've been playing baseball since the late eighteen hundreds and actually there was some evidence of African Americans playing even while being enslaved. So it was certainly not a new phenomenon for black folks to play baseball. Unfortunately, it was so haphazard and booking agents were taking all of the money. So you had all these independent blight baseball team. And it just like the organized structure and even the the Negro Leagues Performing. Kansas City there had been some failed efforts to do a structured Negro Leagues but in one thousand, nine, hundred, twenty on the Brilliance of Andrew. Foster. Got, the necessary guidance, and structure that it needed to succeed where they're integrated teams before. One Thousand Nine hundred twenty at any point. Yeah. There were there were several instances where blacks had gotten onto what would be considered a major league team Moses Fleetwood Walker playing for the Toledo team in the late eighteen hundreds every white who was very light skin. I'm not sure they knew that he was black having played on what would be considered a major league team even before Moses Fleetwood Walker Bud. Fowler. Guys like that who did integrate teams prior to Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in nineteen forty seven but as we like to say Robinson. Broke the color barrier in the modern era of Major League baseball after those players have been banned, and so that's sixty years later that Jackie comes along after Moses fleetwood Walker and break the color barrier with the Brooklyn dodgers. To in a thirty or forty years before nineteen twenty when professional baseball was being played pretty extensively in the united. States mostly African American players were playing on kind of. Wildcat barnstorming teams, teams that would come to town and play the team that happened to be there. Yeah, you had a combination of you know. So you did have these independent like baseball team owners, but the challenge will county get games and so you basically taking on all comers and like I said, earlier booking agent as they were trying to set up games were taking all of the money and so it just didn't have the guidance but yet you did have these games going on where barnstorming even after. The formation of the Negro. Leagues. But still always a central part of the Black Baseball Experience Major League baseball did a little barnstorming but not nearly to the degree in which they did it at a Negro Leagues, because the Negro Leagues were just prolific in a barnstorming as they took baseball into Canada and would often times be the first Americans to play in many Spanish speaking countries and Jessica the thing that blows. Way A lot of the visitors at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum is that it was actually a touring team of Negro Leagues that Introduce Professional Baseball to the Japanese going all the way back to nineteen twenty, seven, the seven years before Babe Ruth and his all stars. But visit Japan, they have been commonly credited with having taken professional baseball to the Japanese, but it's not true. It was actually a team called the. Philadelphia royal giants who would go to Japan in one thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, seven play at Twenty Four Game Exhibition Series they go twenty, three, Oh and one on that tour. The tour was so successful that several years later ruth and his all stars get invited over so yeah, you can see that barnstorming became such a prevalent part and really the game. Our game is a global game because of the Negro Leagues. So you mentioned rube. Foster Rube foster is a huge figure in Negro Leagues Baseball History who was he, and what was his role in helping to create the Negro Leagues. Absolute. Genius. Yet Rube Foster, I think you could make a legitimate case is the greatest baseball mind this sport has ever seen and Jesse people still don't really know who he is even though he is rightfully enshrined in the National Baseball Hall of fame he was just light years ahead of his time. So Rube Foster had been a great baseball player himself in the early era of black baseball prior to the formation of a Negro Leagues. So Rube foster with Ed been a pitcher great pitcher. As a matter of fact, he earned his nickname room when he beat the Great Major League pitcher. L. In a head to head matchup and then rube foster is. Credited with having invented what we now know to be the screwball back then it was called a fadeaway and rue perfected this pitch so much so that the great, Major League manager John McGraw Would Sneak Rube Foster into his camp so that rube foster could teach Christie Matheson how to throw the screwball. Christy Mathewson do the pitch all the way into the National Baseball Hall of fame that he learned from Rube. Foster but foster was best known as this visionary. This tremendous leader he would organize an establish the Negro Leagues here in. Kansas City in nineteen twenty. So for those who sometimes wonder why they need relieves museum is in Kansas City is because Kansas City is the birthplace of the Negro. Leagues so rube foster leases contingent of eight independent, black baseball team owners into a meeting at the Ymca out of that meeting came the birth of the Negro National League. The first successful Organiz Black Baseball League Rube foster would become the league's president. He owned Chicago American giants, and he managed the Chicago American giants and Jesse as a manager Rube foster was Sosa Rude, rube foster was known to. His ball players in the early nineteen hundreds as much as five dollars. If you were tagged out standing up, you're supposed to slide rule would draw a circle down the first base line and a circle down the third base line, and if every one of his players couldn't drop a bought inside that circle, he would find them. He was adamant about the style of plea became signatory Negro Leagues Baseball Fast Aggressive Daring they bumped away on they still second they'd still third man if you weren't too smart, they were stealing home and that believe it or not was the style of play that drew both black and white fans. who had been segregated in Major League ballparks if black folks were allowed into those league ballpark. For Major League. Games, they separate about chickenwire Negro League gains. We said side-by-side Watson truthfully the best baseball being played in this country without question the most entertaining brand of baseball being played in this country and so fosters brilliant led the Negro Leagues to his early Heyday. Was Did these teams especially in the early days of the League and eventually leagues play. You interesting enough. They were using a lot of major league stadiums and I. think that's part of the reason why the early efforts to do a Negro Leagues failed because they did not have enough access to stadiums and so when fundamentally I think the to the biggest thing that separated major, League, Baseball and Negro Leagues Baseball was funding. All the major league owners had their own stadiums. The Negro Leagues didn't, and so there are only a handful of Negro League teams at ultimately had their own stadiums a home, but by and large, they were renting the ballpark's from their major league counterparts, which is one of the reasons why took so long to integrate the game because the Yankees were in no hurry to see integration because the Negro Leagues were renting to Ballpark for them they were getting. A percentage of the gate and likely all of the concession. The same thing could be said in other cities across the country and so that had as much of an impact in wide took so long to integrate as anything because many of these mateen were making money off the Negro Leagues I mean it speaks to the legacy of systemic racism that one of the greatest differences between these two parallel sets of leagues was that the the white major leagues had access to capital, be it through inheritance businesses or loans to acquire real estate and develop it, and then you know use use that power to extract rant from the African American parallel. I can said it better myself. That whole aspect has always been a part of. The african-american plight in this country, and so while these African American businessmen were certainly shrewd enough to be able to generate capital to put these teams together. They still had to turn to Major League baseball in order to have the kinds of places that they needed to play these games and so when I hear people say, well, you know the Negro Leagues scheduled was so haphazard. No, not really they just had to wait until major league baseball set its schedule so that they could see where the open dates were because they were using so many of the of their stadiums. How many people were going to Negro Leagues. Man Filling out the ballpark's matter of fact, in many cities across this great country of ours they teams were outdrawing many major league teams and so here Kansas City, the Kansas City great city monarchs played at that time you'll backfield and then eventually municipal stadium. The stadium before they put on the epidemic for football held about seventeen thousand when the monarchs played their Jesse Seventeen thousand plus standing room only well when they go to Yankee Stadium, they're putting forty thousand in Yankee Stadium at Comiskey, on the South side of Chicago they've got fifty plus thousand in for the Negro League's version of the All Star game, the East West Classic. So they were filling up these ballparks in Washington DC home then the Washington senators. Clark Griffith was watching the homestead grades outdraw his Washington Senators, which again is one reason why he had tinkered with the notion of signing. Buck Leonard and John Gibson well before branch rickey made the move signed Jackie Robinson but again. He's watching Leonard Player dazzling space and he's watching Josh. Gibson hit balls where no mere motor had ever it them but he's also watching all of these black fans feel up his ballpark and if I put the Negro Leagues out of business. I'm cutting off a source of own revenue plus the risk of being ostracized by your peers to make the move. So he backed off of this, but again, the Greys were outdrawing the Washington senators. You started career as a sportswriter and the Negro Leagues were essential not just to you know general cultural and economic life as you know as a source of entertainment but they were essential to the black press in the United States during the time they were running. It gave them. You know it was something that was not extensively covered in the quote unquote mainstream press white press at the time but was extensively covered in black newspapers, which were a huge business in the early part of the twentieth century and in a way that the existence of these leagues was. was essential to those newspapers operation because sports pages sell newspapers absolutely, and when you think about the formation of the Negro Leagues it was actually Jesse at the urging of the black press. They pushed for the formation of an organized body so that Negro Leagues Baseball could be mirrored after Major League baseball and yet had it not been for the black press we know very little about the Negro Leagues for the reason that you mentioned. Mainstream papers just simply weren't covering him. So if they were playing in a town that had black press man, they were basically ignored as great as the Kansas City monarchs work and we're talking about one of the greatest baseball franchises not in black baseball history but in baseball history. There was very little on the monarchs in the Archives of the Kansas City Star. And the Canyon call the weekly newspaper. Itself still publishes a weekly newspaper right up the street from where the New Orleans Museum operates. They were the voice they were the voice and that was saying with whether it was the Chicago defendant, the Pittsburgh Curia to Amsterdam news these were the voices of Negro Leagues Baseball. My father grew up in Kansas City in the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties was a big baseball fan as a kid. and. I will say that the the local team at the time, the Kansas City as was truly horrible team that. Essentially operated as a as a farm team for the New York Yankees though they were a major league baseball team, so I will say. And this pains me as a native San Franciscan in San, Francisco Giants Fan and my dad died a giants fan. But he grew up a Brooklyn dodgers fan. It's hard for me even to say aloud but he grew up a dodgers fan and his his favorite player in the world was. was perhaps the greatest of them all Jackie Robinson but. His. Favourite Kansas City I. Was the first Baseman, Vic Power and take power vic power helped integrate the Kansas City as but was not himself African American he was actually Puerto Rico. Yes what was the role of Afro Latino People in the Negro Leagues folks whose race could could be read as african-american by White, people of the twentieth century. But who actually represented a a a whole other African diaspora? It was huge. It was huge because what the Negro Leagues did particularly for that Darker Skin spanish-speaking athlete was it provided a sanctuary for them to play? Once upon a time, White Cubans could play in the major leagues, but that was really it, and so if you were darker skin and you play baseball in this country, professionally you played and integral. So the Negro Leagues opened its doors to virtually any and everyone who could play their only criteria was, can you play and if you can play, you can play and of course, when the Negro Leaguers who has a mentioned were some of the first Americans to play and many of those Spanish speaking Countries Jesse when they went. To those countries mandate treated like heroes they're staying in the finest hotels they're eating in the finest restaurants that those countries had offer, and then you come back home and you'll be treated like a second class citizen and so a lot of Negro League players would call those Spanish speaking countries home for one simple reason in those countries, they weren't black baseball players they were just baseball players that's auto ever wanted to be, and you speak big power vic power was part of the Yankees Organization before he comes over to Kansas, city. The power was way too flamboyant for the very conservative New York Yankees. One of my favorite stories he goes into a restaurant and it was. That you know for white only. And the power goes into the restaurant and the lady said, well, we don't serve Negroes. I'm sure he didn't use the word Negro but for this was a, we don't league rose and the power in his Puerto Rican accent said good. I don't eat them. And so that was big power. So he was way too outspoken way to gregarious and flamboyant for the Yankees but big power. Your father was right was outstanding baseball player Vic Power out play, and I don't think he gets enough credit for how good he really was. Bob. You're not a young man, but you're far from an old man and I wonder when you were growing up. What you knew about the Negro Leagues and what their legacy was to you as a you know whatever age it is that one becomes really identified with sports if you do become really identified with sports like twelve or whatever. Yeah exactly, and the thing is just I didn't I didn't identify I only identified when I started volunteering with the Negro Leagues. Baseball Museum going back to nineteen ninety-three I consider myself to be a baseball fan. And he was his entire chapter of Baseball in American history that I really did know about now I knew the name Satchel paid cool Papa Bell Josh Gibson because those names they trend transcended mainstream league most baseball fans have heard those names even if they don't know how great these players were you've heard those names but I had no idea about the breadth, the death, the scope, the magnitude. That this league represented both on and off the field, and then I started to meet the players and of course, one player in particular my friend the late great John Buck O'Neil and as I said, on many occasions once you were bitten by the buck books man it was a rap you just wanted to be on bucks team the charisma, the passion, the commitment that he had to building. An edifice where they would not be forgotten and I do think in the final equation. That's what we all want. We want people to remember US and bunk wanted people to remember them for what they had accomplished in this country, and then to also embrace the life lessons that come from their story because to me, they're safe. The story is the fact that these athletes never cried about the social injustice. They went out and did something about it. You won't let me play with you the analogize just create a League of my own, and then my league will rise to rival. You'll Lee and when you stop to think about that, that is the American way, and so while America was trying to prevent them from sharing in the joys of her so-called national pastime. Spirit that allowed them to persevere and prevail what's not to love about this story. All BASEBA- in all professional sports are an entertainment I. think There is a sliding scale of the extent to which a professional sport is an entertainment in the extent to which it is I don't know quote unquote pure athletic competition and there were a lot more baseball game specifically in the early part of the twentieth century and going earlier that were more dedicated to entertainment. You know there were barnstorming teams where Everyone wore address and pretended to be a woman except for a few people who actually were women. There was there was a great legendary one of the most successful barnstorming professional baseball teams was called the House of David and they all pretended to be observant Jews. and. Some of them were involved in unusual religious organization. But they also had a lot of ringers who just wore fake four locks. There were all kinds of entertainments. If you went to see a a Negro League baseball game in nineteen, thirty or nineteen, thirty five, maybe you could describe both a a proper league game and a barnstorming game since they were both such big parts of how baseball players and teams made their money what would you see and and how might it be different from what you might see at a at a major league park? Totally Different Negro Leagues Baseball was the pace of the game was just different and just I think they understood really understood that baseball was entertainment and that means that you weren't going to see. Great. Fundamentally. Sound Baseball. Man You WanNa be thoroughly entertained or again as my friend Buckle Neil would say you couldn't go to the concession stand because you might miss something you ain't never seen before you know that's what they brought to the game. So the taste of the game was faster Major League Baseball was essentially a base to base kind of game. So a guy got on base you moved them over to second and then the big hitters came up and drove him in net brought with that. But again, the Negro Leagues would drop that button and then they were willing to steal second still third. Smart they still in home. That's the style Jackie took with him over to the major. League Jackie Robinson and so the pace of the game was just so fast and daring, and so the major leagues would oftentimes accuse the Negro League players of showboating. Yeah. So if a guy went into, Ho dove flipped behind his back started to double play the major leagues would say show boat they just showboating well as again my friend buckle was a number one if you got something to show show it. Again is homeless show boaty when you can do it and today is sportscenter top ten highlight every night of the week. When you see that happened that was commonplace in the Negro Leagues and so yeah, the styles were different. Fans flock to those gangs because it was so exciting, you mentioned the House of David. The House of David plays a great role in the story of black baseball because they would barnstorm all over the country. Playing with and Against Negro League teams most notably our Kansas City monarchs and Jesse one of my favorite stories associated with the House of David and ever those I know you mentioned them and kind of gave a little bit. But for those who might not know who the House today house of David was a religious sect based out of Benton. Harbor. Michigan who would typically characterized by the very long hair and very long whiskers. Well, they're mimicking David from the Bible and so they did use baseball to spread the Gospel. But as I mentioned, they played a great role in black baseball because they barged on REC league with Negro League teams. And? So In nineteen thirty, four, the Denver Post Tournament the comes the first organized baseball tournament to integrate. And the House of David would recruit the legendary Leroy Satchel page to pitch for them. Now. Lesson has it that Satchel wanting to look like his white teammates and tell people all the time. You can't make this stuff up. It's good. Sacha. Wanting to look like white teammates put on a week. Anna fake rid beard and was strikeout some fifty one hitters in three games. The House of David would win the seventy five, hundred dollar prize money for winning the tournament and you can rest assured that Satchel got a large percentage of that seventy five hundred dollar prize money is what about favorite story because it's so indicative of the showmanship of Sancho but also the tremendous talent of Satchel and the House of David would actually tour with the monarchs when the monarchs introduced night baseball in nineteen thirty. The monarchs in the House of David took night baseball all the way out to Seattle this is five years before the major leagues ever had a Nike. Major. Played their first night game in nineteen thirty five to Kansas City monarchs introduced night baseball in nineteen thirty and by the time they played that game in Cincinnati in the major leagues, the monarch's and the House of David at going all the way out Seattle. With night. Baseball. If you're playing professional baseball and you're black in Kansas City or in Chicago. There is a world of African American business infrastructure to support your life there or your visit there. Right. Like if you go into Pittsburgh, there's a restaurant for you eat at a hotel for you to stay at and so on and so forth. But if you're playing a few games in between your scheduled dates in Kansas. City. CHICAGO. And you're in Springfield Illinois or whatever was that always the case Yeah it was challenging for and so that challenges didn't come on baseball field the baseball field in many respects Jesse was sanctuary there challenges came as they were travelling highways and byways of this country. Not Knowing where you could stop and get something to eat or have a place to stay, and the irony of this is that they would ride into a town. Fill up the BALLPARK. And yet not be able to get a meal from the same fans who had just cheered him or not have a place to stay. So they slept on the bus and would eat the peanut butter and crackers until they could get to a place that offered them basic services. But. The thing that I share with my guest is what you have to admire about. The spirit of the Negro Leagues is they never allowed that to kill the love of the game baseball kind of became that place where they could get away from that. But when they're playing a major league stadiums, they can use locker room. They couldn't take a shower. You know those are the kinds of hardships and one of the great quotes from my late friend John Meal Mile. And my different Lauren Mayer, who's a filmmaker? Has a wonderful film called the other boys of summer and in the film she interviewed John Mule Mile and as he says, I'm not complaining, I'm just explaining yeah, because I want you to know what it was like I'm not complaining about it. We dealt with it. We did what we had to do, but I do want you to know what life was like. More with Bob. Kendrick after the break stay with us. It's Bullseye for maximum fund DOT ORG and NPR. AM allegations and I'm Julia Prescott and we host round Springfield. Round Springfield is a new Simpson's podcast that is Simpson's adjacent In its topic we talked to Simpsons, writers, directors, voiceover actors you name it about Non Simpson's things that they've done because surprise they're all extremely talented absolutely for example, David x Cohen worked on the simpsons, but then created a little show called Futurama. Larry. 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Because if we're lucky, we live to be seventy five or eighty, five years old. But there are who can maintain professional level athletic skills beyond their thirties. What was it like? For Negro League players who were dealing with the fact that they were re entering quote unquote normal life burden both by racism and its attendant lots and structures in the United States and the fact that many of didn't have skills event sports you know they hadn't gone to college some some had. And you know one of the wanted to interesting the facts about the Negro Leagues and I'm so glad you mentioned that. Is that some forty percent of the athletes who played in the Negro Leagues had some level of college education. Less. Than five percent of those who played in the major leagues had any college education for the simple reason that the major leagues Jesse didn't want you to go to college. Then they got you right out of high school if. They got you write a high school, put your farm system, and then you work your way too big leagues. Well, the Negro Leagues didn't have that kind of sophisticated farm systems so whether they do they trained on the campuses of historically black college and universities, and then they would play the Black College baseball teams, and then they recruited a great deal of their workforce from those Hbo. So. They actually had a disproportionate number of college educated athletes in comparison to the major leagues but you're right when you're talking about a Po- sports career and I think this is what any athlete that transition into normal life is never easy. Because they miss the adulation as well you have to remember they were stars they were stars in their own communities, but they were stars and as we say when they went to the restaurant, you'll get to find his table, the waitress give you the best service you just as it is today and so when you're transitioning away from the limelight, so to speak and into a realm of. Normalcy, you know you become one of us normal working class citizens because none of made enough money where they would just be institutional a wealthy after their playing careers. So they did transition now som- became scouts in our sport buckle Neil transitioned into the major leagues as a scout became the May, just first black coach but not a whole lot of them. So some became school teachers and educators others went into doing work. Cool. Papa. Bill you know in some guys were janitors you know later on in their lives just trying to. Take care of their families. I think in many people's imagination, the Negro Leagues ended with the Integration of Major League Baseball in nineteen forty seven. That's not the case they continued for more than a decade after that. What was it like for the players who were great players perhaps were for whatever reason not willie mays or Hank Aaron or Monte Irvin players who got the opportunity to play in the major leagues for Baseball Integrated but works still great players when. Major League Baseball started to block the Negro Leagues Shine and when the Negro Leagues I eventually folded. Yeah, yeah and you're right. See that transition took twelve years. You know before every Major League team headed one black baseball player Boston last integrate when they signed pumps agreed in nineteen, fifty nine. So with a very slow meticulous process as related to bringing black layers in now, the only exception really really was the Brooklyn dodgers branch rickey was very aggressive signing black talent the rest of the major leagues Kinda came along. You know kind of like Johnny come lately they were very slow, and so basically you bring a player up and then eventually you bring another player so that that player wouldn't be so terribly isolated but. It wasn't as if Jackie Breaks Color Berry and black folks just ran on enter the major league and there were a lot of Negro League players who did not get the opportunity they didn't have like a big tryout where all the African American national baseball players got to come and they they got drafted onto major league teams. They were major league teams that still had one or two black players in the early nineteen sixties. Oh. Absolutely and teams like Boston who was last could have had the pick of the litter of star black talent. And passed on them. because. They really didn't want a black player. You know they were the last because. They ultimately felt like, okay. Everybody else got one. I better. Get One now too and that was really the case with the American League by and large the National League was more aggressive signing black players, which is also one the reasons why the pendulum of power shifted to the National League but that really good Negro. League. Clear. Most of them know Jesse were passed at prime. You're the superstars. The need relief really were past their prime. Time to make, he's got some really good players who became great players, Maze Aaron and Ernie Banks Roy Campanella, guys like that. They get Monte Irvin Monte Irvy's thirty in when it comes over to joy the New York giants and he still has a really good career at thirty. But man, if they get money when he was twenty or twenty, one years old, that was nothing that he couldn't do you. Know, Monte urban had been kind of tab the guy to beat the first. He was ahead of Jackie and really the Negro League owners. If someone was going to break color barrier, they wanted it to be Monte Ergen but monty had the same pedigree to Jackie Robinson. Ahead you know Montier was college educated had served in the military was married stable good-looking gas. So he had star quality written all over him. And he was a better baseball player. Jackie. Robinson was at that time. Monty was a superstar for the Newark Eagles. Baseball was Jackie's Weakest Sport, which again tells you how talented Jackie Robinson was because he becomes a hall of fame caliber. Baseball player. So there were other guys in the Negro Leagues who a better baseball player. Jackie Robinson. But that that really good may Negro League I didn't get a chance and then there's other superstar guys were too old. You get Saturday when he was reportedly forty two years old. He was likely fifty two at that time because most new will believe is at least ten years older than what he claimed to be and only bill vague would have given. SATCHEL. But some of the other guys from the Negro Leagues. They just didn't get a fair shake. You know a guy like Ray Dandridge who was a tremendous player in the Negro Leagues well when he he gets up to the Minneapolis Millers. And the Minneapolis Millers were the New York giants triple eighteen. Well Dandridge his name MVP of the millers when he was almost thirty eight years old. You know as well as I do they were not going to take a thirty eight year old black man to take a young white kid job it wasn't going to happen out. Okay. How good he was and so yes, he was bitter about it because he would play out playing all these young kids and there was no realistic chance for him to get their. SATCHEL pages may be the single most legendary. Negro Leagues Baseball. Player. One of the most legendary baseball players in any league. and. He's an interesting case to me because. There's besides him. Simply having a record of extraordinary performance particularly when he was younger as a barnstorming player in the Negro. Leagues. There's these two really interesting facets to him as a guy one is he had extraordinary success in the major leagues as a middle aged man. But there's this other thing about him that I think is really interesting which is. As extraordinary as he is player, he's perhaps even more extraordinary as a story like he obviously understood his brand and. He was getting a cut of the game and he knew how to make his his life into a story and was one of the most you know, no pun intended colorful baseball players who who's ever played baby. Right. And that seems to me like it is reflective of a two sided coin, which is on the one hand. There is no doubt that in the Negro Leagues, they were playing a more entertaining form of baseball that was more fun and more exciting, right? On the other hand because. Disaster page. Could strike somebody out with his hat on his foot, throwing it backwards through his legs. Whatever like because these guys could do anything But. Those stories is amazing as they are I think in part became the story of the Negro Leagues and can run the risk of. Diminishing the quality of play in the the extraordinary qualities of the of the business and its significance in American history. And also, in some cases, reinforcing negative stereotypes that white people have propagated about people of Color through American history certainly, you know the like. All smoke no fire, whatever. Voting and so forth, and that's why Jackie had to be the first guy. And again, that doesn't mean that others couldn't have done it. But this was so much more than about baseball ability. And for everything that you just mentioned. Jackie defied the stereotypical depiction of African American athletes. SATCHEL. COULD HAVE BEEN I. Am Buckle always believed because Sacha was such a big star. White folk knew who SATCHEL page was. That, he would not have gone through as much of the racial hatred that Jackie went through. But there's also to greater risk that a pitcher could fail and they, of course, satchels age and the showmanship and flamboyancy of Satchel page. Too closely adhere to that stereotypical depiction of those black athletes. And here comes Jackie Robinson who is polar opposite Did Jackie Robinson is you know has some cachet surrounding him because he had been an all American football player at UCLA. And so he's college educated. He had served in the military he's disciplined. He would become married to the beautiful Rachel. Robinson he is stable and so when Jackie Robinson walks into that dugout with the Brooklyn dodgers. Halley might have been the most intellectual being in the dugout and so many of these sudden born. Ballplayers were in the major leagues. Black man up close and personal for the first time and he's nothing like I heard they were. And so yeah, that was so important in this equation, it really was and so. You know admitted respect Satchel was the Negro Leagues. He was the Negro Leagues Biggest Star. But you couldn't take Satchel and that's why breaking very smoothly. Chose Jackie Robinson. It's Bullseye I'm Jesse Thorn. My guest is Bob. Kendrick Bob is the president of the Negro League Baseball Museum. I just wanted to give you a heads. That we aren't recording our guests in studios these days for obvious reasons, Bob recorded this interview himself from his home in Kansas City and at about this point in the interview Bob's recording equipment stopped working. Now Luckily, we had a backup recording of him talking to US via phone. So the rest of the interview will sound like him on the phone because that's what we have a recording of. Bob I think often the integration of major league. Baseball. Is told as a almost like a founding myth of Americana that it is a triumph of dispirit of America and. As often told it's a triumph of. All the young white people like my dad who were rooting for Jackie Robinson and branch rickey. Know an older guy who was looking for competitive financial advantage and maybe also. Fine with the social justice implications and and You know a and a player who was both an extraordinary player in extra by all accounts and extraordinary human being and fulfilled the role the singular role of that was asked of him to be a credit to his race in in quotes. But. There is also. The reality that when that happened. It's not like when they started adding A. Black Baseball players to major league baseball. They started adding white baseball players to the Negro Leagues or they started adding black owners to Major League Baseball So. What did we. Lose. When Major League Baseball Integrated and as the Negro Leagues Faded and eventually. Closed up shop in the late nineteen fifties well I. I'll be honest. I don't know if the African American community realize what it was losing when it lost or leaks because Jesse wherever you had successful black baseball, you thriving black economies and so what was good for the soul about country? What was good morally what was socially was devastating economically, and so when we lost Negro Leagues, we lost that catalyst that was that spark for. A thriving economy and and I don't know if we realized that and then the final equation. WE ASK FOR INTEGRATION What we wanted was equality and we're still fighting for you quality today and so yes, that was absolutely you know I referenced as a bitter sweet story because there's no question that this change things dramatically and our society, and we do make the bold assertion that Jackie breaking color barrier wasn't just part. Of the Civil Rights Movement, it actually was the beginning of the civil rights movement as you well know, that's nineteen, forty seven. That is well before those noted. Civil rights occurrences. Brown versus the Board of Education and that's before Rosa Parks refusal to move to the back of the bus as my friend buckled neal was. So eloquently say Dr Martin Luther King Junior was only a sophomore at morehouse college when Robinson signed his contract to play in the dodgers organization President Truman would not the armed forces until a year after Jackie. So for all intensive purposes, this is what indeed started the ball of social progress rolling in this country. That spun integration in our society and wants this our society became integrated. Those small black businesses could no longer compete and sad to say black folks. Fan went to these businesses that once upon dot would not allow them. To think about this. A woman could go into a store and if she touched the hat. She had to buy. That was now permanently stained and so now all of a sudden you could go in and so. You know that's a whole nother social logical kind of issue, which is way too sophisticated for my country boy feeble mind. So. Yeah. That was a lot loss when we did lose the Negro. Leagues but again. It moved our country in ways in which I don't think we ever fathom possible from a social standpoint. By we have to go but I just wanted to mention to you that. I mentioned to you that my father was from Kansas, city and night. Sorry. Now, I don't understand. He passed away relatively recently and When I went up to my hometown where I I was born in. San Francisco to his house to take him with my stepmother into hospice. and. When I was leaving to drive back to La I, looked around his room and I thought. Is there anything here that he saved? That I wanted to take home with me. And He and I and my brother had gone on A. He inherited some money so that he by a two year old car, which was the first car we'd ever had worked and we decided to take long driving trip from San Francisco. One summer. and. We decided to go to as many baseball games as we could. And, our goal was to drive from San Francisco. All the way to Kansas City where my father where my father lives a child. and was born and It was a long and difficult trip. But also was an. Amazing trip and When we got to Kansas City, one of the places we went was the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. And it had just recently opened at that time I. Think this was nineteen, ninety, four or five. and. I got to meet Buck O'Neil. Briefly he was just around. We do just come. Hang around. You know to shake his hand and I'm. Sitting next to my dad's bed when I. When I was looking around at this room that they wouldn't he would not occupy again was A. A Little Souvenir Baseball Bat. From. From that trip to the museum that he had saved for those. Twin now, twenty five, twenty, six years. And It was one of a couple of things that I brought home with me to my house and I, just I wanted to thank you for that. For that experience, you're already involved in the museum at the time though you you you weren't working a for money yet. and thank you for stewarding this wonderful place and this amazing American story I. I really appreciate it. It has a lot of. A lot of meaning to me personally. So thank you. Know. Well, it's an honor for me to do this work It is absolutely a labor of love not only for me but I think our entire team and and and I think they Jesse that is not lost on any of a and and this is kind of what drives and motivates us is that we have an opportunity to leave a legacy. we understand that this museum is so much bigger than any other US and that if we do our properly, we have an opportunity to secure his future so that it will be here for future generations to enjoy and I think any time that you can leave a legacy in this world that is something that is so meaningful and so. You know every day it's as we're motivated to keep the legacy of these legendary and courageous athletes alive and and and it's an honor to be able to do this work. Bob I'm sure that you wish you could be welcoming more people through your doors during the centennial of the Negro Leagues and that. More of the celebrations that you had planned in partnership with Major League Baseball could take place this year given given. The way that the pandemic has affected going to things including baseball games and museums although your museum is open. For visitors now in a relatively limited way. But I hope that some of those centennial. Activities can become centennial in one activities. Next year. Absolutely. We've already come up with the concept of Negro Leagues One oh one and those are stepped foot on a college cabinet one or one class where the only ones out that. So we're GONNA, use a create an educational initiative that will kind of carry and drive next year celebration. As we keep create a continuum of things that we weren't able to get done this year certainly doesn't diminish the fact that there's still a mouse year and the launching of our tip your cap. To the Negro Leagues. Campaign really gave a boost to this milestone celebration this year you know there's virtual campaign it just really took off and it was a crazy idea that I had that after we couldn't do our national day of recognition with Major League Baseball we're all thirty teams were going on the Negro Leagues and and essentially do an in stadium tip your cap with fans and players, and as you will know in our sport, there's nothing more honorable that a ballplayer can do. Simple tip of the cat, it is the ultimate show of respect and so I came up this nose into virtual tip of the CAP? Could we get fans pass a few players current and former to take a picture or video of themselves? Tipping, their, cap. And on the Negro Leagues. Well little did I know that it would go viral and when we lost his campaign on June twenty ninth of this year, we lost it with four US president tipping their Cap President Obama President. Bush President Clinton President Jimmy Carter and then we even Jesse went into outer space and God a literally how to worldly tip the cap from astronaut. Chris. Cathy. who was aboard the International Space shuttle when he tipped his cap I, think at that point we realize we have something pretty doggone special year and that effort is. Still continuing, and so we're keeping the tip, your cap campaign going certainly through at least August sixteen. But with the popularity of this will likely to keep it going through the end of the centennial year, and for those who might be interested in tipping their Cap, You can upload autograph of yourself or Short Video. You know to photos at tipping your Cap Dot Com, and then the website if you WanNa, go on and look at these amazing folks who have tip the cap in honor of the Negro Leagues. The website is at www dot tipping your cap dot Com. and. I was excited because most recently, we got a I had to from the tip tastes motels temptation. So there's big has been amazing. Well, Bob I sure appreciate you taking all this time. It was great great to get to talk you about the museum and the history of the Negro Leagues. Yeah. No. I appreciate the opportunity. Thanks for having me. Bob Kendrick President of the Negro League Baseball Museum. If you're in the area and you're in a position to visit the museum is open for a few folks to look around safely. You can also donate to the museum by going to its website and L., B. M. dot com it's been tougher this incredible museum to lose their hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues Year And your support makes a big difference. That's the end of another episode of Bulls Eye Bulls eye is produced out of the homes of me and the staff of maximum fine in and around greater los. Angeles California. where. As of this recording, the giants are six and seven and the dodgers are nine and four but. The giants are fundamentally good and the dodgers are fundamentally evil. 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Negro Leagues Baseball Museum President Bob Kendrick on Josh Gibson, Hank Aaron, Satchel Paige

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Negro Leagues Baseball Museum President Bob Kendrick on Josh Gibson, Hank Aaron, Satchel Paige

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Monday. Twenty seven two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in Connecticut. Taylor Schwenk buster only working from my home studio. He just north of New York City Taylor. I remember early on during the lockdown. That you were every Friday every Saturday. You're taking a long drive. You still doing that now. That we're more than a month into this. The drives have dried up in the last two weekends. We might go for one this coming up next weekend but I'll pull back the curtain a little bit. My wife and I are two consecutive weekends to different people We've done these like zoom murder mystery parties which are a lot of fun. Actually I know that people do them face to face in real life. But we've gotten a little creative here and if you guys are looking to do something like that I would highly recommend it. It's fun to dress up a little bit. You know we did a twenty s era one and a seventy era once we made some different cocktails for it and My first time I wasn't really sure what to expect and I enjoyed it quite a bit. So that's taken over the drives a little bit so that's your recommendation. Mine is digging up. Dandelions which has become an obsession for me. Because you know because I'm home I've made up my mind. I'm going to have the best lawn in my neighborhoods and so over the weekend. My fifteen year old son who certainly has moments. When he doesn't like me very much. This weekend I assign him digging up two hundred dandelions. I dug up that many myself. We are on a hunt for Dandelions at our place. Is that sound. Like Fun Taylor It sounds like a negative fund. But where do you think you are on your quest to have the best looking lawn in the neighborhood like are you like seventy five percent of the way there or where where do you stand? Doodo mobster good start like my lawn is looking really good like I cut around the edges. All the things in the past where I get back from Sunday night baseball and Monday and I'd be tired and I'd see some clipping that I need to do and I wouldn't do it now. Like up at five in the morning just dying for that. I like to get out and do it so trying to make the best of it so you got you know. Murder Mystery Zoom. I've got dandelions it's all what whatever you need to get through it. It's it's dragging on here so you gotta you gotTa take what you can get there. You go well this is contributors week. Folks who helped the sport of baseball not necessarily as players managers are front optics executives. And we'll start with Bob Kendrick. Who is the President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City? In Alaska who he thinks is the greatest player of all time. We'll hear from Sarah Lines as well. I The news and notes retired Los Angeles dodgers broadcaster. Been scully's back home. After falling and being hospitalized the team quoted scully in twitter Saturday saying home and resting comfortably with my wife and we are both eagerly awaiting the time for dodger baseball. I almost can't say without trying to imitate. I'm not GONNA do that. The Cape Cod Baseball League. Renounce Summer League for top college stars cancelled. Its Two thousand twenty season due to the corona virus pandemic. It announced on Friday. The Cleveland Indians will pay regular salaries to full-time employees through June thirtieth. But the club has had to furlough others due to the Kobe. Nineteen pandemic the teams that senior executives took voluntary salary reductions to ensure the team could continue to pay staffers. The Indians confirm they furloughed Many of their part time employees and interns those will take effect on. May first and there is sad. News Steve Del Hausky a while. Left-hander was said to have been dubbed the fastest pitcher in baseball history. By Ted Williams died this week in new Britain Connecticut. He was eight years old. Before we get to Sarah into Bob. Don't forget about Jalen and Jacoby. The after show the guys are recapping episodes. Three and four of the last dance. The shows went up right after the last dance aired. And they'll continue doing that throughout the run of this Docu series Jalen and Jacoby. The after show is brought to you by State Farm and at and T. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts numbers game. They're laying say reporter producer for MLB DOT COM. And Sarah in a moment. We're GONNA be talking about Kendrick head of the Negro Leagues Museum in Baseball Museum in Kansas City. And so Sarah what I sent you an email over the weekend saying you know what? I'm curious about your perspective on who or the Five Best Negro Leagues players of all time. How would you rank them? Starting with number five. Yeah so I love looking into this and I love thinking about this because you know this is an area of baseball history that we don't know quite as much about and I know I personally have learned a lot about maybe over the last ten years or so but I feel like I'm always learning more and more about these players in reading more of these legends so it was a great great opportunity to dig back into this and I love it so my number five is Oscar Charleston. And you know they're so many great comparisons when you read about these players. Everybody is compared to some absolute legend and the one that I have for Oscar Charleston. Buck O'Neil said. He was the greatest player that he ever saw. He was compared to tie Cobb interest speaker and he was considered the Negro National in Israel. I real- superstar back in nineteen twenty and he could hit close to four hundred played a great outfield. Iran. Base while and Satchel page side. You have to see him to believe him anyway. And so the hall of fame in Nineteen Seventy six and of course buck. O'neil was a longtime first baseman and a manager and he we scout. He's got it later in life. There's actually an award at the hall of fame given every year now That's name for Buck O'Neil. Whose NUMBER FOUR. So number four. I've got cool Papa. Bell you know legendary speed one story. I saw said that he went from home home. In twelve seconds which is really fun. You know we can actually contextualized that now whether or not it's true we don't know but you know the fact that people thought that was true. I mean that's right there with the fastest home-to-home times who see on home runs you know now a stack cast so and he taught. Lubar have a steel basis. I think that almost tells you all you need to know in humans. The Hall of fame in Nineteen Seventy four and cool papa. Bell of course. The great story about said tongue in cheek was that he was so fast when he turned off the lights which he'd be back under the covers before the late actually went out. Who's number three so number? Three is Buck Leonard. He was the homestead grays first base for seventeen years which made him the longest tenure player with one team in the entire history of the Negro Leagues. He Josh Gibson were outstanding. Duo led the team to nine Negro nationally pennants and five world series. Aaron says and he went to the hall of fame in Nineteen. Seventy two number. Two number. Two is Josh Gibson so dizzy Dean called him. One of the best that he ever saw it for a ton of power. The legends are absolutely incredible. They talk about five hundred foot home runs and maybe he hit nine. Hundred home runs in his career. We don't know you know for sure. But he certainly was. You know an absolute outstanding catcher an outstanding a power hitter and he wins the hall of fame in Nineteen. Seventy two as well number one all time. So Am I number one. I have sexual page. I'm not sure that he was the absolute best player in the history of the Negro Leagues. But I think he is certainly the most famous on so I was sort of going back and forth between him Gibson whose number one number two I ended up with Satchel page number one. He was the first to go into the hall of fame. He's the most associated with the league. I think a lot of ways and you know a lot of people thought he was the greatest pitcher whoever left and I want to ask you about the greatest player of all time in any league for me. It's always been willie. Mays who to me? He did so many things well he was fast. He could play defense. He hit for power. He won the Most Valuable Player in the National League. A couple of times Led the League in a home runs multiple times. He won a batting title in One Thousand. Nine hundred fifty four. It's six hundred. Sixty homers had three thousand two hundred eighty three hits scored over two thousand runs in his career. That would be my pick for greatest player of all time. How about you? Yeah I mean I you. I have talked about many times on here. My mother grew up a huge giant. Stand a huge giant fan. Let's hear about Willie mays since I you know basically couldn't talk yet and I've always always default to him but I will say that you know as I learn more and more about these Negro Leagues players. I mean I do think that you know there are so many players who you hear that you know could have been the greatest of all time or would have been considered the greatest of all time in major league history. Had they gotten the chance to play their gotten a chance to play. They're in their prime. So I think that there certainly are You know other considerations to take but I always go slowly mace yes. Some people would argue Babe Ruth. Some people would argue Henry Aaron. I'm going to put that question of Bob in just a moment. Sarah thanks for doing this. Always great to talk with you. Basis for having me investor. Kendrick is President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City. Missouri and Bob. Thanks for joining us. Sit at time when everybody's looking for distraction and I know you've got a lot of stories always exciting for me because I'm looking forward to those same distracting about these baseball and baseball history because the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum like everybody else has been so greatly impacted by the health situation that we're currently under yeah and with various states have each state having its own You know time line governor's making decisions about one to open up businesses before we get into the storytelling. Where do you guys stand now? And what what you thought as we move forward where I'll say a comb order is supposed to end may fifteen which is not exactly an ally with the state of Missouri. The governor who is I think went to loosen up by May third but we're under a May fifteen protocol and so we're starting to make preparations now to see what happens when we get to make fifteen and how we'll be able to reopen the you know the best breakfast are going to be at removed back into hopefully operations The certainly being very kind of cautiously optimistic about this now and preparing for this hour Writing notes back and forth. And we're GonNa have stories about Satchel page about Hank Aaron But one of my favorite discussions to have and you know I enjoy it with Tim. Kirk Chen or you know my Former broadcast colleague. Dan showman are sort of those Bar questions like who's the best player of all time and for me? It's always been Willie mays because I always thought Willie mays. Somebody could do everything he could run. He can hit. He was obviously a great defender. You won awards you WANNA World Series. Emailed you that last night. You work absolutely unequivocal about who you think is the best player of all time and it read. Brooklyn meal and I disagree and he knows a lot more about baseball than I ever will know headed Oscar Charleston. He Thought Charleston was a great baseball player. He ever saw including nate that he was really amazed before we knew who really made. What but for me as a student at the game and learning about the history of the Negro League. I am absolutely enamored with the Great Josh Gibson. Because if a catcher could be five school guy was gifts it and what he did to me. Buster from both an offense and defensive standpoint in perhaps the Games most difficult position to play he dominated on both sides. You know everywhere. Josh's plane hit lifetime batting average. A three fifty four and in countless exhibition games against Major League allstars hit over four twenty and he was doing it as a catcher and he wasn't a good catcher was a great catcher rifle on he was throwing guys out from the crowd as buck with so oftentimes say he had complete control of its pitching staff so he called a great game. He was a good running catch. He's GonNa Steal You. Twenty twenty five days ago were that big bat and buster. When I say bad I mean big. Bats forty hours forty one inches man you know. And and so everyone Josh played. He hit they recently found his Puerto Rican Winter League records. I believe it was from nineteen thirty five. The only hit four eighty five season. He was while what are a couple of your favorite judge Gibson anecdotes that you heard In doing your work you know the thing about Gibson and power it almost mythical but when I tell people you look at him you can see in the photographs. That's the power was very real and you know he is believed. That'd be the only man to ever hit a ball completely out of Yankee Stadium. He hit what in the Polo grounds bus that they estimated to travel over six hundred. But what buck with describe and this is how he would describe gypsum predicted. He would describe Josh in this matter that he had the eyes of Ted Williams and the power of Babe Ruth Road into one dynamic. Package my dear friend the late Great Monte Irvin who I have the utmost respect for he would say this'll jockettes he said I played with really made and of course he did. He really made with the New York giants and I played against Henry and neither of them are. Josh skips it. It just makes you wonder. Damn how good shock. I don't feel so good about my case for Willie. Mays were monitor disagrees with Bob. You remember red. Smith used to write for the New York Times. Okay well read came and spoke at my high school about a year or two before he died. I was fifteen years old and so the English teachers decided. Well we got this fifteen year old baseball nerd. Who who would enjoy sitting next to the sports writer who was first sports writer ever went to pull it surprise and so he sat me. They sat me down next to read Smith. And somehow some way the conversation for me came around to. I don't think rob a rabbit. Miran bill do belongs in the hall of fame. He's not good enough and then his red began to defend the selection of Rabbit He began to speak in first person. Well this rabbit did as a player and I remember going. Oh God that's right. He saw him play. I didn't try and that's right there. When Your Tub Amani urban you know having played against Hank Aaron and against Willie mays against us and so I I defer to Monte Irvin with that Look at you know but but after Charleston though because you know what busted most spokesman. They look at the greatest. They always look at that guy who plays center field so whether it was made with Oscar Charleston that the Glamour Defensive Position. That's probably why I didn't get nearly enough credits as being the greatest major league because he played a corner outfield. But as you know in a game of numbers and baseball is that they gave up numbers. No one's numbers are better than him. And you got a chance as you. Romania not was your childhood hero What was that like when you got to meet him and usher them through the museum perspective. We've been so blessed here at the Negro Leagues. As far we've had two American presidents and former President Bill Clinton former President George W Bush Vice President Al Gore First Lady Michelle Obama General General Colin Powell. They've all to the museum as you. Well know a plethora of athletes and entertainers make their way to the museum. Oftentimes say with no disrespect to any of them. They not Henry. Air Not in my one of the most amazing and most memorable tourists from the ever. The year was nineteen ninety nine. The late great buckle near was out of town. Baseball was celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of the hammer breaking. Ruth's record and I draw your sign and touring my childhood idol. I was a kid growing up in Crossville Georgia about eighty miles east of Atlanta almost twelve. When when this Aaron broke roofs record a record that nobody thought whatever broken have perhaps the most prestigious record in all sports at that time so baseball to celebrate celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary? So let's say it took twenty five years before he actually got an opportunity to really celebrate this tremendous accomplishment and so address your sign and and my wife could attest. I've got everything laid out everything I see like looking at me like what's wrong with you know what I'm saying. This is Henry Aaron and so I get to the museum they get. They wired up. We might go up we got a throng of media following us. And so this Aaron and his price billy or with me and I am taking him through the museum and I'm sharing history with him that he didn't know about even though he was a part of the stories. Some of your audience may not be aware that he started his career. Nineteen fifty two with the Great Indianapolis clowns when he came to the cloud. Or the skinny cross had a hitting infielder healy away. Two hundred and fifty but those risks man those risks for specimens. We're walking around and I'm telling him stories and we get to the picture of him standing at the train station in Mobile Alabama. There's very famous picture this very frail kid standing at the train station. The nineteen fifty two about to board the train to head to join the Indianapolis clowns and all he has bustard is a Duffel bag and his nickname before he became. The Hammer was put chops. Because apparently Mr Aaron had eating pork chops and fries and a team with with them because anything I guess that was all I knew how to order from the menu so he found with it but he also told me that in that Duffel bag she may have had to change his clothes dollar fifty cents in his pocket at a ham sandwich. That Mama head made going to go chase that DRI. It worked out pretty well so to happen and so it was an amazing day. We had a public event right across the street from the museum at the Gym Theater. Five hundred people feel the place to the rafters. My Good Friend. Joepat get a great writer. Jason Whitlock also great right now. Tv Guy both writing for the Kansas City star at that time. They hosted discussion with miss to Erin but then afterwards we go up to the mezzanine level of the gym theater and Henry Aaron. His wife is enjoying a platter of dates barbecue ribs so after they toured by euro and eating. Rian protests that. Get any better than mass. Were from Crop Georgia. That is the greatest day in baseball. That's awesome boy. I'm so glad you got that experienced on curious about if you've got a chance last year when Espn had Henry Aaron in the booth with Tim. Kirch in World Peres I think Carl Ravitch was there. Buksh Ambi- but either way What was so striking to me. Was Of course as a player. He played in such an understated style when he hit a home run. He just dropped his bat. You know he had those elbows move in the way that he did going around the basis. It wasn't a bad flip. There wasn't anything. Look at me about what he did. He was just such an understated player and I was so happy to hear the joy in him as he laughed over stories from when he played. And you realize that one thousand nine hundred seventy three thousand nine hundred seventy four. The days leading up twenty broke the record. They were no fun for him. I can talk about the relief to get past that record on April. Eight seventy four. I don't think people because they've been removed from this now for quite some time. They don't understand. The ANC said he was going through at that point in time because I experienced it. They're in tiny Crossville Georgia which was still very much segregated at that time and so he you had this black man in the south about to break this. Almost mythical light figuring they re record and people were not happy about this so Henry. Aaron had to have family in hiding. He was getting bags and bags of hate. Mail and death threats. So I mean honestly nobis go around the basis or not. This is nine thousand nine hundred seventy four at this time you know. And that's why I say it took him almost twenty five years before he could finally exhale and enjoy. This almost unbelievable accomplishment. She did it. With such crass grace and dignity the entire time. I think that to struck me of out the man you know. Obviously I admired him as the baseball player. But I think I admire him as the you know just as much and perhaps even more and I think for me. Every time I'm around in it we had a number of together and I'm still at almost twelve year old kid every time I'm around my never been struck with anyone we've ever had involved and he believes Baseball Museum move. Come to the museum except for Hindi Harry and on the old Tory of your kid. Every time I've been his press I WANNA go rapid fire with because they have so many questions for him not going to get to the mall embalmed. We'll have time to get to go through the rest of my list. But tell me your favorite Satchel page story so many. We could've talked about SATCHEL forever but y one of my favorite stories and buck. O'neil told me this story statue was playing buster. Had his own team the Satchel page all stars and they'RE PLAYING IN THE DENVER POST. Turn it and so broke. Julio playing first base with satellite all stars and they're playing an all white semi pro team in this tournament and from the Coors Brewing Company and so because I kid from the coolest team gets into the batter's box he digs in Santo throws a fastball. Kids wonders heart. If he could dribbled down the third base line will stay fair it out and get the infield hit about that time one of the kids from the coolest dugout steps out on top of the dugout steps and he yells out last me. Nothing but an overrated tacky. Well Vassals nickname famously for buck with Nancy which is a whole nother story and so but over the first base he says man said. Did you hear that book? Say yes I heard he said Man Brigham and so he turns at First Base. He motions for the outfielder. Take a couple of steps in fact to look first days. Plus he said Nancy Brady go all the way. Out of the GUY's guide. Milling around in the mouth. Satchel pink and the catcher and SATCHEL strike houses size. Oh Nine street pitches. He's looking at the coolest dugout and says overrated dark you. Hey a book already said. He supported the day died if he had one game to win and any choice of any pitcher. From any era it would be the legendary Satchel Page said. You guys beat him when he was out there messing around when he was locked and loaded. Forget about it. You tease me with this line. And a note you sent. You said Satchel page at one a bet with Whitey Herzog of course the longtime manager of the Kansas City royals in Saint Louis Cardinals Served as a general managers. Well what was that about wilder? They're playing at trying for the Miami. Both playing for the mining ball Satchel nineteen fifty seven or so. They're playing right. He's young player for. The marlins are playing in Rochester against the Rochester team. Triple eight baseball well. Rochester had a hole in the outfield wall and they had a promotion. Buster said if anyone could hit a ball on the flat not whole Baker win one hundred thousand dollars whether it was virtually impossible. But why did he says you're not in the outfield jogging? When he decides to see if baseball would actually fit in not whole and there was just enough to conference with this bond fit through the hole he goes and gets Sacha he sat. You always brag about how Rachel Control and how you can throw a baseball and over two hundred m rapper and he could. I bet you a bottle of old granddad bourbon that you can throw a ball through that hole again. That's what have the nickname everybody nickname for hers. Aw With wild child he is wrong. Child wilder ball fit widened. Show them it's just enough to concentrate that ball. He says route child. I'll take that bet. So right. He says next day gets to the BALLPARK. He steps off sixty feet. Six inches puts down the pitching rubber. He's don't give the old man three tries to throw that ball through the whole he says Saito. Take the baseball like a hunter is looking through the telescope of his life and he misses and the first pitch goes into whole suspend backout. Now Mr Hers Actually. It is infrequent this leads. He says the various neck. Pit Right through the whole factor. Look South picks up the bottle of Bourbon said Rao child. I'll take that and wow boy. Can you imagine and Satchel pages one of the great characters in American history? Besides the fact that he was one of the best pitchers of all time he was one of the great care. Can you imagine sexual page in an Arab social media like the attention he wouldn't dominate that forum? He would be the biggest on the face of the planet were did he would be even more so now and era of social media because he was a built for social media he was and he loved the attention. The more the merrier. And the moment the biggest stage the better he worked so now he would have been one of the big decide on the face of the plant. Give me a couple of experiences. You've had with current players coming to the museum for the first time. And what are typically questions? They have artifacts that they That they are drawn to well. I think they all mobile of the equipment and as you will know that old equipment that not only Negro Leagues playing for the Major Leagues. Play with that same old equipment and it's hard for them to even imagine a guys playing baseball with those kinds of glove and the old heavy cleats in these kinds of things. No less how good they were with it so they bobble that you know we add Tim Anderson. And we've had. Obviously bryce Harper has been there was also one of my favorites because he such and historian of the game. And mookie Betts and Jackie Bradley and David Price. It's just an plethora of young athletes who've come but I think the thing and I tried to express this to the thing that they have in common with the players from the League's is love of the game. That's the common denominator love of the game. You play this game because you'll love it and sometimes I think we as fans and get a little fickle because as we typically do in our society we equate everything to money and because these athletes are forwarded an opportunity to make a great living his game the assumption is. They don't love it as much as the guys of yesteryear yet do there just afforded an opportunity to make a great living but if they had to play the game for free absolutely would but as I also share with him you will never see a great example of love of the game. Then you do when you walk through the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. They had to love it in order to endure the things that they would have to endure. You know going into a town and filling up a ballpark yet. Not being able to get a meal from the same fans who had cheered him or not having a place to stay so they sleep on the bus and eat their trackers until they could get to a town that would offer them basic services but in the midst of all of that social hardships. They never would've allowed that to kill the love of the game and that the prevailing spirit that you see the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum and I think they all gravitate to that because they know how difficult this game is baseball. Tuck game play under the best of circumstances no less against the backdrop of Jim Crow in American so I think that all resonates with every one of the athletes who come to the museum and for me. It never gets old man. I love sharing the stories. I love seeing a reaction to the story and I think it gives them a better perspective of just how good they really have it. And I think that's the thing that kind of rings true for the athletes when they come to this Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City. And I recommend everybody to go see it when they're in town and I'm going to have you back okay. Because I am the list of questions I had for. You was enormous and you tell such great toy story. Thanks for your time. Both Job Ed. Thanks for having me. Here's Tim Curtains Daily Baseball. Fix about former manager Bruce Bochy. Hi this is Tim. Kirch in and on this date in nineteen ninety. Five Bruce Bochy reporting his first manager real. He's a first ballot hall of Famer. He won two thousand and three games. He won three world series in a five year SPAN. And nobody but nobody ran a bullpen. Better than Bruce Butch. He'll also tell you that. No one in baseball history has bigger been he does. It's roughly a quarter. He told me he got traded twice in his career and the answering bringing his helmet with him and they would spray painted the new colors because not had a helmet when he also hit a walk off over once against Nolan Ryan and the pirates ran a red card from the beginning of the Valles all the way to poachers locker and in this locker include a six pack of beer. When ice in boches helmet Terry Kennedy told me look you can get a six pack of beer and a lot of guys elements but only can you a six pack of beer with ice bleacher tweets already buster bleacher tweets four Mundy Robbie parks rates in at Robbi parks? Oh nine a very valid point. Now tweet here. So are we just going to ignore the fact that the only person punished in the red SOx Weinstein scandal was jt. Watkins the replay. Operator it is a little bit hooky. I'm glad Robbie pointed that out to us. We didn't cover it in full. Well we did say I say do as I mentioned when we're talking about it that do we really believe that we know everything. There is to know about what happened either. Houston or Boston. No we don't know everything there is to know right. We don't have all the facts. I would agree with that Now it there is no indication that what the Red Sox into this this point. There's no indication that the red sox and what they did rose to the level of what the astronaut is in two thousand seventeen so all the people are wondering why we're not hammering the red sox in the same way that we hammered the Houston Astros. It's because we don't have any indication that the red sox are doing any real time stuff consistently throughout the two thousand eighteen season if someone develops that information. Maybe we'll try. Then you know what we would talk about it more fair enough last one today. A little bit of a ballpark nostalgia from Amy Chapman. At Amy Chapman she asks. What are your favorite ballpark snacks? In which ballpark has the best ones? Well I don't really have a big ballpark passport but I would say across the board chicken tenders and French fries and soft serve in a Helmet Cup. My problem with the chicken tenders and French fries though. Recent scourge across all stadiums is that they're only giving you like three chicken tenders. I feel like if you're paying ten to twelve dollars you need four chicken tenders. And that's that's really been bugging me recently. I've got more specific memories. But they're they're more tied to sort of a romantic notion than actually what good food is. Okay growing up dodger fan. I'd always heard about dodger dogs and Vin scully doing dodger dogs and former John etc so when I went to dodger stadium for the first time and think I was twenty. What would have been twenty six years? Old Ed Grainy. Who worked with me at the San Diego Union? Tribune and I went up to dodger stadium. I had to get a dodger dog. That was really cool. So that was the best tasting hot dog I've ever had. I do love getting brought Milwaukee that that's something always aimed do when I'm there and coffee in Seattle. Of course you have to get that when you see attal right. Yeah for sure. Didn't anticipate that as a good ballpark perk. But it makes sense to me. That's it for today. My thanks to Serta Bob Taylor have a good day. Everybody thanks for listening and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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The One With Joe Posnanski and #TipYourCap2020

Girl At The Game

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The One With Joe Posnanski and #TipYourCap2020

"Off, you know, you don't know mama song Welcome Back to the girl at the game podcast the sports podcast by women for everyone has always I'm your host Gabrielle founder of girl at the game and I'm flying solo for this week's episode 5 hours with her family, but not too worried. I am not actually flying so low because I have an incredible guests with me for today's episode Joe posnanski senior writer at the athletic and whatnot. The spear headers behind the tip your cap initiative to honor the Negro Leagues baseball Centennial this year. He is one of my favorite writers to read one of my dad's favorite writers to read and we had wage. An incredible conversation about tip your cap baseball in the type of coronavirus. Rob manfred's stunning admission yesterday about the 60 Game season and bad faith we get into all of it and it was so much fun and such a treat to talk to somebody who I look up to and admire so much. 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That's baseball bbq.com. And now without further Ado Joe posnanski. Guys, I am so excited to have on as our guest today is Joe posnanski a senior writer at the athletic. He is The Man Behind Some of the greatest writings about the greatest baseball players of all time. You've probably read at least one of his play-off files or one of his sixty moments about some of the greatest moments in baseball history and he is now spearheading a really amazing campaign to honor the Negro Leagues in their Faith Hill season before baseball comes back, please welcome Joe posnanski Joe. Thank you so much for being my guest. Absolutely. Thanks for having me. It is such a treat for me because I read your stuff all the time and a treat like I told you from my dad who is probably one of your biggest fans as crazy as that is to say about someone's dad, but no, that's bad. That's awesome. That that's it's great to here. So can we start off by talking about tip your cap? Because it's been all over social media. BoB Kendrick is actually a friend of mine and he's been on this podcast before to talk about the name that we examine the Centennial but how did tip your cap come about? Why was that the Avenue that you guys chose? It was its I come to you at a time where I am thoroughly exhausted cuz it has been three weeks of just pure 24 hours a day working on this which has been so rewarding and so wonderful. I mean BoB Kendrick is a go back twenty plus years. He's he's one of my best friends we call each other brother and because we're both consider ourselves children of Buck O'Neil so long it's a you know, he's always coming to me. I mean, he you know him the way his mind works. He is always trying to come up with creative new ways to tell this this amazing and important Story game. Out about the Negro Leagues and and you know, when you talk about what the Negro Leagues are, I mean it is it is many many different things. I mean, there's the the obvious story of of Jackie Robinson and Euro player finally breaking through and breaking the color barrier and playing in the major leagues. And of course Jackie Robinson played for the Kansas City monarchs and the Negro Leagues and then Larry Doby comes along and he played in The Negro Leagues and and so did you know the first two dozen or so players and in in baseball who were, you know, black and and and dark-skinned Latino as well so long, so he's always looking for new ways to tell this story and one thing that has been a focus of his for at least a decade is he really loved this idea of having people kept their cap off to the Negro Leagues. It's just such a symbol of of respect and and honor and you know, he had this thought where he would he wanted have players in the major leagues go on the field and Tim. Happy he had various other, you know ideas about how he could do tip your cap. And then this year it was finally going to happen. There was there was going to be a nice legs day in Major League Baseball to salute the hundredth anniversary of the formation of the Negro Leagues. And on that day. The players were going to do that. They were going to step on the field before our game and took their cap. And by the way, I think this will still happen, but but it was scheduled to happen on June 27th. And Bob was very very excited about it obviously and thought of it as sort of the centerpiece wage for for this important year for sharing the story for raising awareness of the museum and and of the end of the Negro leaders themselves, and of course it all got canceled and postponed not because of because of covet and as everything else has and at one point Bob came up to me and he said, you know, I don't know you've been doing some things cuz you know as long Should be a writer a friend of mine Dan mcginn and I started a company called passions in America where we we were looking to sort of explore passions and and trying to sort of find causes and you know ways to sort of bring a little bit more joy and love and to the world and as part of that we had done a different campaign. And Bob said, do you guys think you could come up with a campaign for for tipping your cap? And so that's how it started and Dan and I Dan is is a long time Communications manager and Washington very very successful and off. He thinks very very big and so when I came to him and said, you know, what what could we do with this his like literally his first thing is when we need to just get President Obama to do this. We need to get President Bush and President Clinton to do this. We we need to we need to get you know, we need to start at the top of the presidents and and everything else will follow and so that's what we did. We started with the presidents and they were all dead. Incredibly gracious and and very very quick. They they they all did it incredibly from what we were told from from their offices. They've never done anything so quickly and wage. Usually anything a president has to do goes through about 7000 different channels and and permissions and waivers and everything else and they they just fast practice. So we we got Obama's video within a couple of days of him agreeing same thing with President Bush same thing with President Clinton. And and then we we song reaching out to two amazing people like Michael Jordan reached out reached back to us Magic Johnson and then Henry Aaron and and the you know, sharing and Rachel Robinson and and this thing suddenly wage it was not just a campaign it became a movement. And and now we're just watching it all, you know, we we've lost we've lost control not that we ever felt like we had control of the first place, but we're just dead. We're just in the car. Just watching it go because it's it's become a phenomenon. Yeah, I was so blown away when I saw the president's doing it. I mean, I don't know about Clinton, but I know that you know Obama's a baseball fan and Bush obviously was with the Rangers like was an owner of the Raiders. So that wasn't surprising to me. I mean, he's always been a baseball guy and I think either he or his dad played for the Yale team. That's right. That was so exciting for me to see I'm curious. I I think I can guess the answer that I don't want to get too political or but do you reach out to the current President? We did not but but well, we we can we can probably have a longer conversation about that. But what we decided very early on was we were not going to reach out to any current office-holders. I mean the the key for us was that this was this is a completely a political campaign. We want everybody involved including yep. President the president wants to do a video. We would welcome that I mean it's but we didn't reach out to to the Biden camp. We didn't reach out to any of the senators or any anybody Politically Incorrect some like John Lewis who who obviously would have made a tremendous amount of sense to do this, but we just felt like this thing should be completely apolitical. We reached out to the former president's office. Simply for the reason that they are former presidents. And and we do we you know yesterday we saw that Ben Carson put out a video of himself. We know that Tim Scott the Republican senator from South Carolina put one out. We know that you know, the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer pull one out. So people we encourage that we encourage everybody to do it. But God for when we were going with the Outreach especially at the beginning of this thing we want we really wanted to be sure that this thing had no politics in it at all. Which is an interesting thing because I think a lot of people are very adamant that Sports and politics should be separate. You know, you see people on Twitter always telling athletes to stick stick to sports and stuff like that. So I think it's interesting that you had former presidents because for some people I mean that's still going to be political obviously because you're the president but that's an interesting thing especially right now when it seems like there's no kind of separation of the church and state with the church being Sports. I guess there's no no that's a hundred percent and I will say from from our perspective. I mean, of course it is political in the sense of you know, this is this is speaking out of sports. This is speaking about wage even though we're celebrating these these great athletes. We're celebrating them for so much more than that. And so it is political when I say we didn't want to go into politics. We didn't want to go in anybody who could turn off. Into an actively political things for instance, right? Let's say we invited President Trump and Joe Biden and only one of us sent a video. Well suddenly that feels like you're getting in the middle of the race, right you're getting in the middle of the politics of it. So when I when I say politics, of course, it's political but when I say we didn't want anybody who's an active office holder off, we didn't want to get involved in the political process at all in this in this thing. The last thing you want is this turning into some kind of Sideshow exactly exactly. That's like the opposite of the goal. But I I also I mean when I spoke to Bob he also was hopeful that maybe in September they would be able to do tip your cap. We're obviously seeing lots of MLB players already doing it like Mike Trout did one. Yeah, there's so many it's been so many it's been hard. We we really excited to see Yu Darvish do one yesterday just felt I loved it. It was so great and it off. Beautiful version of it too and but it just felt I loved when this thing goes International, you know, this thing has become a little bit of a of a of a touchstone in France interestingly enough. It was picked up by some people there because you know, and I think that's great because this is beyond baseball and Beyond Sports. It's it's really is a great American story about people's driving against Injustice and refusing to be denied their opportunities in their rights and and eventually being so good at what they did that they broke through and changed baseball and changed America. So so it's such a great story we've gotten so many and we haven't even been able to keep up with so many of the of the baseball people and and throughout Sports really doing this Thursday. It's it's been really really good. But I am I am I do understand that baseball is assuming there is a season assuming that you know, the 60 game thing works and assuming that they can play them. Will be a a salute to the Negro Leagues day and I do believe that they that players will step on the field and tip their calves. I do believe that there will be an actual. You know, this has been a virtual campaign. I believe they'll be a bow actual version of this at some point. I don't know when but at some point during a baseball season assuming we have one. Yeah. Well, yeah having a baseball season pass is still somewhat of a question mark but I I actually think in a weird way doing the virtual or the social media campaign of this in a way. I feel like I'm more people saw it or maybe it's just I think that's very creative just because you know, a lot of people don't actually watch baseball games, but they don't watch them regularly or you know, they're blacked out by MLB TV Etc. So in a weird way, I think that having this like ongoing campaign. Yep. People people saw those videos of the presidents and of Michael Jordan and the picture of Mike Trout and Yu Darvish all of these amazing people doing the tip your cap like it's kind of like home. I said to Bob when we were talking a few months ago. I was like you I was like you have a unique opportunity here because like, yes people can't come to the museum right now. But you can set up all this social media stuff and use social media to show off the museum in ways that you might not have had the time or focus on before and like for someone like me in Boston, but it's not easy for me to get to the museum even though I'm dying to go sure and I've been promising Bob for like two years. I'm like I'm coming this year and then I'm not able to get there and it sucks being able to do the campaign online with millions and millions of people who aren't even Baseball fans. They'll see it and then they're like, well, what even is the Negro Leagues and then maybe they'll Google it or they'll go to the museum website and to me, I mean, that's what time. Like the message of the Negro Leagues is more important now than it ever has been. I mean, we're we're we're seeing the black lives matter movement and people in sports. A lot of them don't realize that the Negro Leagues even existed know that's a hundred percent. Right? And and your we have we have talked about this very specifically Bob and I and Dan have a Volvo Log Cabin around and talked about this that you know, of course what we wanted was there to be a season of what we wanted was for everything to go the way it was supposed to go and and and all of that but faced with the situation that we're in faced with with with the global pandemic and and all of the the significant issues that are that are arising in our country, you know from a social justice standpoint as well. We do believe that this way we are reaching so many more people. We are making so much bigger an impact than a simple a simple tip your cap during a baseball season would have been found and I think it's it's touching and it's and it's and it's humbling to see that and we saw yesterday a bakery in Pennsylvania put on their back on their Marquee outfront, you know, happy hundredth anniversary to the Negro Leagues nineteen twenty two twenty twenty and and you know things like that wouldn't have happened. If if it had just been a a simple salute to the Negro Leagues day. It would have been a beautiful moment. And again, I hope we we have that moment still but you're right this thing, you know, and and this is this is I think because of the month we're in it has taken on a completely different life and it is reaching, you know, vast vast vast numbers of people that never Not only would never would have seen it never would have been you know wage. Come close to being touched by by a simple salute on the baseball field. So, you know to to see like I say across aisles to see senators from from 5 from all parties to see, you know athletes in all sports to see, you know, thousands and thousands of people just tipping their cap. It's dead. It's pretty wild it's pretty wild and wonderful and and I I talked about earlier today already and we were we were discussing just just how you know, we have no idea that that it was can come this far. We don't know where it's going to go from here. But but we do know that this is the single most significant thing that has ever happened. Not only for the Negro Leagues baseball Museum, but for the Negro Leagues themselves and wage and those players and and the the, you know, the the awareness of that story is is definitely being being Amplified in a way that never has before birth. There is no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partner. 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And so I learned about them as a kid a little bit from him and I was just fascinated and also, you know appalled that course baseball didn't want black players to see all of this coming from it and also knowing Bob and how he's able to make an incredible situation out of a rough situation. Like the first time I ever interviewed him was actually after we had we had chatted like, you know, like unofficially before but the first time I ever actually interviewed him was after the vandalizing in 2018 at the Buck O'Neil Center that hadn't even opened yet and all I came away from it. I was like something terrible just happened to to this incredible place and you know, they've been working on this for such a long time and Bob was still so positive about it. And so knowing him and reading your work for such a long time. I'm home. Prize that an incredible movement came out of it and I just I'm like so happy to see it all over my social media, especially at a time when social media is so overwhelmingly negative. Yeah. Yeah. I'm seeing this every day for the past week or so two weeks. Like it's been very uplifting. It really has I mean for me to you know, even even being in the middle of it just just seeing where life is gone and seen where this is going and you're right. I mean, it's it's like you go through your social media and and your Twitter feed and it's just it's it's terrible thing terrible thing terrible thing. Oh, look who tipped their cap off there. Is this this beautiful little pause in the middle of a pretty Dreadful, you know, pretty Dreadful timeline. So, yeah, it's it's it's great and and, you know, Bob both tell you but but Bob particularly, you know, this comes from Buck O'Neil, I mean that the joy the optimism the refusal to be to allow bitterness to overtake you I mean wage You look at a guy like Buck who you know never got to play in the major league and was you know, almost certainly good enough never got to manage in the major leagues definitely was good enough to manage in the major leagues off because of the color of his skin and it wasn't just that he you know moved on he embraced his life and embraced the joy of his life and and and held bitterness, you know that he would that he would ever publicly display. I mean, he he believed the world is always getting better and and you know, Bob and I Bob often said, you know, I try to be a little more like Buck every day, you know, and I think that's that's a hundred percent. Right? And and I think that that spirit is what what really infuses this campaign I I think back and I both know that buck would be the happiest guy in the world to be seeing to see this, you know to see to see people respond the way they're responding and they gotta put him in the Hall of Fame after that. Right? Wow. So I guess the temper I guess December he's made on the ballot. And yeah, and of course, of course, you know, I my first book was of course about Buck O'Neil this all the baseball and did ended with the disappointment of him not getting into the Hall of Fame and you know, he handled that with the same Grace. He handled everything else. But yeah, it would be it would be fitting here in the hundredth anniversary with all of this going on and everybody, you know, embracing this story and these people who who weren't embraced when they were when they were playing it would be really fitting for them to go in the Hall of Fame this year the whole environment of the Negro Leagues and inclusion is actually how Bob and I became friends because I wrote an article about Mamie Johnson Jersey and I and I wrote about the fact that the Negro Leagues which was a league born of exclusion became the most inclusive of the three leagues, you know, the All American Girls Professional Baseball League game. Didn't allow black women, right and MLB clearly didn't allow black men or women or women at all and the Negro Leagues was like if you can play baseball we want you to play baseball which is how it should be but as a woman in sports, that's spoke to me. Just seeing women play baseball. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that's the way you know having met met me peanut Johnson a couple of different times. She she was such a joy and such an inspiration, you know home so much like buck in in in those ways and you're right. I mean, you know, the great thing about the Negro Leagues was that that it was inclusive, you know, and and the thing that thing I love about that is people often said, well, you know, the new rulings did whatever they had to do to try to get fans in the stands, you know, they would do whatever they needed to do. Well, Isn't that the point I mean isn't that the point of of sports is to is to do whatever you have to do to get people to come and care and and you know, I think we forget that sometimes I think people talk all the time about wow, you know that that wouldn't be that wouldn't be super meaningful because you know, you just doing it to get people. Well, yeah, let's get people to come to the ballpark, you know and and wage in my daughter's ask me all the time. I mean a surprising number including my oldest daughter who has never been a particular sports fan. You know, when will there be a woman in the major leagues? I mean it is it is it is a question that they think about and and I know this is something you've written about a lot. I've seen you writing about it very well, you know, and that is but that is that connection that connection I mean as a woman out for you as my my daughter's is you know as a young woman with both of them, I guess, you know young women at this point they can love baseball, but they don't feel like they can see themselves in baseball, you know, and I think that's why it's so important issue. That some of these women coaches some of these women in the front office. I mean baseball has to do so much better job when it comes to that. I mean and that is it's it's really funny Buck very rarely would call me to talk about something I'd written, you know, we would call and and talk about other stuff all the time, but he very rarely would talk about stuff that I had written off. And and I remember I wrote a column about Annika sorenstam. Remember when Annika sorenstam the woman one of the great golfers of all-time played in the men's PGA tournament and there were some of the men who who were pretty dismissive of her and pretty dismissive of her game and it was it was pretty gross to be perfectly honest and and wage not surprising but not, you know at all not even a little bit surprising but I wrote a column about how I don't remember the the overall tenor of it, but I remember it was dead. Was essentially about you know good for her and these people who talk about her game. They don't know what they're talking about. And it's it's amazing. You know, she's she's going to go out there and she will be very good job. And you know, I like I said, it was it was a calm. But I remember that was the common that Buck O'Neil called me about to say right on, you know, if you ever get to talk to to Annika could tell her that Buck O'Neil says you you keep the fight up that she's fighting the same fight that we were fighting and I thought that's right, you know, there's a connection here, you know that you can see and Tony Stark and maybe Johnson and and Connie Morgan but there's a connection here. It's the same fight and you know, I hope that that's coming across in our campaign. I mean that that this is so much worse than baseball. It's a fight to not only be respected but to be in be included but to be you know treated fairly it's it's it's it really is a special thing off. I actually wanted to be the first Red Sox pitcher like female pitcher when I was a kid growing up I could throw well, but my arm wasn't strong enough. I just never got off early. Yeah. Yeah. I've never been a particularly like strong like athletic person, but I always want that was my dream and when it was I was the narrator for the 2018 World Series film which she did a great job, but the actual film itself wasn't good because it was just a recap of the World Series. They didn't even talk about do damage or 16 runs against the Yankees. They didn't talk about anything. It was kind of disappointing. But when when it was announced that she was going to be the one to generate the film. I wrote an article just talking about what it feels like to see yourself represented in the field that you love. Yeah, you know to hear a woman's job Voice narrating a baseball movie instead of a man's voice and she actually ended up reading it and reaching out to me and it was such an honor that she did that. But you know, that's I feel like that's how a lot of us feel is that they don't think that they have a place in sports because they don't see other women represented in sports who they can look up to and say, oh there's a woman announcing this game. I could be an announcer off until until just Mendoza started doing her thing. It wasn't even something I had ever thought about really and then she was on ESPN just absolutely crushing it and I was like, wow, I love Donna brazile. Oh, you know and and Dennis Eckersley is like my favorite person to listen to give color commentary cuz he's so funny and he just give a crap about rules but you know hearing a woman talk about baseball. It just means something different and that's kind of how I've always tried to model girl at the game too. Because people people will be like, oh you only let women right for the website so either Only a site for women and I'm like no the tagline is its Sports by women for everyone because the point is like if women are excluded from sports, but then I go and create a space that's only for women loves sports. I'm doing exactly the same thing that men do to us, right the point is to show that women have a place in sports. And so while it's a safe space for women writers, it's a nice place for everyone to enjoy and I just want Sports to be that place too. Of course, of course not it's a hundred percent. Right? I mean exactly what you're saying, I you know, and and of course you see things differently as a father Looking Through The Eyes of their daughters, right and I know people always say that oh, you know, I have daughters but you do see the world in a different way and I can remember very very young the first time that we watch the Olympics, you know, and and of course there's a sports writer Sports was was always sort of, you know in their lives whether well You know, they wanted it in there or not. And I remember the first time that we watch the Olympics and suddenly you see these extraordinary women sprinters and these extraordinary women swimmers and and extraordinary women gymnasts and and and on and on and on and obviously the the Olympics being the one place where women and men are on the same stage in the same way and their eyes just lit up in a completely different way. You could just see it you could just feel it. And and of course when the when the women's soccer team was was playing in the World Cup again Thursday same thing. It's it's it's not that they you know, hey, I only care about you know women's sports. It's that they see themselves and and you know, it's something I I hope that I've always known but when you see it up close like that, it really is extremely powerful extremely powerful and I feel you know, it's different but the same wage With African Americans in baseball now everybody talks about about how do you get more African-Americans baseball? Well, one of the ways is for people to see themselves in the game is for for Young Americans to state but they look at the NBA and they look at the NFL. They look at college football. They look at college basketball, they see themselves and they see their potential future and and and it's you know, it's less true in baseball and it's less true and baseball now than it has been in forty years or fifty years. So so yes, I totally applaud what you were doing tell you keep it up because because that is that's where Sports needs to go with sports needs to go is where everybody can see themselves in the game. Well, I appreciate that and I know you're a girl. And I'm the daughter of a girl dad and it's it's a really special thing to share that relationship with your dad. But you know, I never I never really felt different. You know, he never You know, he we would play catch in the Park after synagogue on Saturdays and he taught me how to catch pop flies and how to throw and we'd watch baseball games together and we walk over to Fenway and he we'd score plays and it was never like you're a girl but I'm going to teach you this anyway, it was just what we did and then I got into sports and it was like people were like, why do you know so much about sports and like why should why should I know so much about sports? Exactly, right? That's exactly right. Yeah. I mean, you know, all you could do as a dad and a mom obviously is sort of Follow Follow Your Life your children, you know where they take you you know, and and with my older daughter she didn't have any use for sports. We used to take her to baseball games. She would she would she would love to go as long as she could bring a book to read. So he would just read during the game. She would not even know what was going on and the other one was more interested. But now the older one has become a much bigger sports fan particularly football game. And the younger one is is become a tennis player. So, you know, it's just you let them go where they're going to go. But I think that what's really important is there only so much we can do right? I mean, I think what's wrong important is that they that they can see a little bit of themselves. I mean, I just think that's so critical. I mean when I was growing up, I you know, I would look for people who thought I thought. Oh that that's there's somebody that sort of represents what I might become someday. I mean for me that was the light hitting but but eternally wonderful Duane Kuiper home played second base for for Cleveland when I was growing up and I looked at him and I thought I could do that. You know, I could be that and and of course I could not but but it's a matter. I mean it gave me something to shoot for into dream and and and I want that for, you know, my daughters and and their daughters and and you know, everybody I want I want them to be able to log See more of themselves in the game and and you know, because I love baseball so much. I just I just find that to be so important and so crucial and and I think it's you know, it's Thursday. We're celebrating the Negro Leagues and and what they were able to do. I hope that we can celebrate, you know, some breakthroughs for women in in baseball and and because I think it's so important. It's just so great to hear someone of your stature say that because it's one thing for me to be carving out my own space, but what also is so important is to have that support and the voices of people like you who agree, you know, there are a lot of people who are kind of like in the old Club sure for the Old Guard where they're like baseball is four months old white dudes and it's like oh cool. And so when you guys died what's going to happen? There won't be any baseball. There won't be any paying customers if if that's how baseball works. That's right. Well on the when and I mean there are there are poll. There's poll after poll after poll that show that's exactly what's happening. I mean, the the average age of the baseball fan is much older than it is for football basketball hockey particularly soccer which is which is skewing very young and you know, these are not just Trends. I mean, this is where reality going. I I have a a friend well damn again who's done this who's running this this tip your cap campaign with with us. He said to me, you know for the last thirty years more women have graduated from college than men for the last thirty years. And that number is as completely grown. I mean the the the disparity between the number of women who graduated from college and the number of men or graduating college that disparity has grown significantly, but but you can go back 30 years more women were graduating from college than men wage. Last thirty years, so he says to me and he's a hundred percent. Right? What are the boardrooms of America going to look like in five years ten years twenty years. I mean, it's so cold air and so vivid where this is going. This isn't a trend. This is where the world is going. And and I think it's the same way with baseball you look at baseball and baseball is very old and very white from a fan perspective and we know where that's going that that there's there's you can't you can't fight that Trend. There's no way to keep going the way you're going as baseball and maintain your place in in in the nation's, you know Consciousness. So so I do think it's hugely important and you know, we're talking about different things when we talk about African Americans baseball. We talked about women in baseball. We're talking we're talking about different things, but we're also talking about the exact same thing, which is that the game is is aging out wage. And unless baseball can find a way to embrace the future Embrace diversity Embrace youth particularly Embrace young people. It's it's a game a lot of trouble. I've been very concerned and you know, I try to it's hard to stay positive people be like, you're so negative and I'm like, well, I'm just stating facts. Like there's not that much I can do if I if I just posted David Ortiz home run videos everyday people would be like read the room. So, you know, you can't please everybody but it seems to me that there are so many obvious logical ways that MLB could be growing the game and promoting the game sure and they just don't do them and I'm curious what you think about that because to me than a lot of other people that I talked to in the industry. It's like well for example teams that don't have High attendance records like the Marlins for example could offer super low price home. Kids for kids or even free tickets for kids like the Marlins last year. I think they were the first team since the 04 expose to post under a million in home attendance for the whole season. Right? And so it's like okay you clearly have the room. Why don't you let families bring their kids under, you know, ten get in free. Yeah, no one sitting in those seats. Anyway, that's right though. There are so many ways. I mean that's one of them is kind of like a million. Yeah, but but but a good one, I mean but but you're right look, I think the part of the problem is that baseball the structure of the game, you know, you really have 30 teams that are sort of thirty individual businesses in some ways. So it's hard to bring them all together. But yet on the other hand smoke is an industry and that industry is also fighting the players as we've seen repeatedly over the last few weeks. So it's it's a mess as far as like, where is the central? Location of baseball and the answer is I don't know where it is. And I think that's a real problem when you're trying to change the game. I mean one thing you can say about the NBA just as an example NFL to but particular could be a when they want to change things. They they know exactly how to do it. Right? I mean all the owners are are are under one. Umbrella the players they they they are sharing revenues. So so it is an interest of everybody to make the game bigger and better and and so they can go together and and do things they can take this to a worldwide Market they can they can really work hard to promote the players and and and make them big stars. I mean there are lots of different things they can do and baseball every little thing is such a fight. You know, every little thing is such a you remember last year when the commissioner came out and sort of lightly lightly insulted or or or criticized. I guess Mike Trout Not being more out there. Well, first of all, it's ridiculous, but secondly, you know that's baseball's job is to put Mike Trout out there and you know, and and and I just I just feel like so many of these things that you and I and many many many other people would do to bring the game to more people to make it more interesting to make it more diverse to make it more fun and and and and and thrilling for for fans. It's it's like you don't even know who to present them to because who can make them happen like who who could you go back to you know on on our on our website for tipping your calf or tip your cap 2020, which is the hashtag we couldn't get tip your cap for the for our faith our website. So it's tipping your cap, four people. We'd love for you to come on the bottom of it. We have a double entry a video one with Tony Clark The Players so off. Executive director and one with Rob Manfred the commissioner and we have them side-by-side and I thought that's pretty much the only place they've been side by side. You know, all year is is in the back of your cap campaign and and you know, that's it's really really hard to make changes when you're so despair it and everything is in so many different Afghans and and there's so many different requests. You need to make and permissions you need to get it's very difficult to make big sweeping changes and I think baseball needs some big sweeping changes. Yeah and speaking of big sweeping changes. What are your thoughts on commissioner manfred's kind of admission of guilt yesterday talking about the 60,000 thing. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I kind of seems like he just totally outed himself and Major League Baseball, especially when Major League Baseball was accusing the players themselves of months. Negotiating in good faith and it seems like MLB was doing exactly that the entire time. Yeah, I you know, the whole thing was such a disaster. I thought I wrote about it a couple more to finish start to finish from you know, a couple of different times I've written about it and it's so frustrating to me because really from the start. I mean this is this is an aside wage, but from the start, I think everybody should have been a well aware of the 20/20 is going to be a completely different kind of cease and it's not going to be anything like any season we've ever had in the past. It's not going to resemble any season. We've had passed, you know, everybody should have realized very quickly there weren't going to be fans understands. They should have realized very quickly that that Not only was there going to be a smaller number of games played but even those games were going to be subject to health risks and health questions that are still unanswered. You know, I know that that you know, they're talking about a 60 Game season now and starting July 23rd, and I hope Do it and I hope they can get pretty far but we're also you know, we're also coming off a day where we just literally have the highest count of covid-19 cases that we've ever had in this country home. And and so so that's that's a trend that does not Point. Well the July 23rd, so so, you know, I realize that there's so many complications but I just I couldn't believe that from the vein restart. They didn't try to do something special with this season something unique something unusual something try throwing things against the wall, you know, I suggested why don't why I have a College World Series type tournament with all 30 teams and you put them in different regions. And and that way you can limit the the number of stadiums involved and number of cities involved and you can keep them together and and somewhat you know, and it's in a short period of time it's not that they didn't choose my particular idea or some of the great ideas I saw out. There it is that as far as I know. They didn't try anything else. No, they just kind of decided to fight over the few dollars that they're going to come out from this season and buy a few dollars I of course mean millions and millions but but yeah, right but for them relatively few dollars and and it's incredibly frustrating to me that that there wasn't a sense of the game being bigger than than than this Petty arguments that they would have. You know, that this moment being something more significant than than fighting for for nonsense and you know, and this is not a both sides thing. This is directly completely and utterly on the owners. They're the ones that have have thrived off of this game in a way that that owners and football and basketball have not you know, they're the one that that that that do not include the players in in any kind of Revenue sharing and of course that's in part because the players, you know believe that that would be a salary cap and they won't have it but dead. They've given the players no reason whatsoever to feel that. They are Partners in baseball. So if you're not going to ever have your players feel like the partners in baseball, you can't ask them to be partners. When that when you're facing the season like this and and yet they kept insisting and insisting and and dealing in bad faith and trying to cut salaries even more than they've already cut them and and it was it was shameful was absolutely shameful. And you know, I don't know what the reality is. I don't know that there could have been a season any longer than 60 games. Maybe maybe that's a hundred percent right off. They had some information that they were not publicly sharing from Health people saying that that it was never going to be anything different than it is but you're right. What was what were all the arguments about? What was the fighting about? What were the discussions about if at the bottom line you were never ever going to have more than 60 Game season? I don't know why there was any why they were any negotiations to begin with, you know, I mean this this whole thing. Feels completely as an effort to make the players look bad to make the game look bad and and it's it's very very sad. It's painful as a fan sure to see baseball treat its own players, like there's but also to turn fans against the players. I mean the way that fans quote unquote fans because I don't think anyone who's a really a fan of baseball would have the audacity to say some of the things that you see people saying, like I saw somebody say that Sean Doolittle should dump his wife because she has black lung problems and she's severely immunocompromised and they were like, well just dump your week wife and get back to playing and I'm like anyone who says that couldn't possibly be an actual fan of baseball. It has hurt me so much to see how baseball has treated its own players and manipulated fans against the players during this time, and I think you're exactly right place. That MLB just either had information that they weren't sharing or that they just never intended. I mean, it seems pretty clear from what Manfred said that they never intended to play more than 60 games. So they were just using all of this as a way to mess with Claire salaries and not spend money on them and all of this kind of stuff but it just seems so unnecessary to me that well, I think it's partly where's a money thing? But I think I think even more it was a you know, what people are not going to take this. Well who's going to get the blame we would rather players get the blame for this then the owners. I mean, I think I think it's it seems like it has been such a fight for for the moment and also a fight to sort of Muddy the whole thing up a oh a pox on both their houses which you know, a lot of people are saying and and you know that that way you can share the blame with with the players though. The whole thing has felt like a claim chasing excerpt Eyes, which to me is is terrible. I mean if I'm sort of saying what I think Rob Manfred should have done okay specifically as commissioner of baseball. First of all, as I was saying to to my friend Mike shore on on the podcast, it's absurd that we have a commissioner of baseball who's who works for the owners and the commissioner of baseball should work for the game and she gave it should work for the players and the owners and the fans and that should be that should be the job and the job should not be representing the owners in in negotiations or fighting for the owners. But if I'm I'm saying what Rob Manfred should have done Rob Manfred should have come out very clearly and said we are facing a global pandemic. We are facing a crisis unlike anything anyone seen in our lifetime and in that kind of Crisis baseball doesn't matter baseball is not a significant part when you see so many people in pain when you see so many people dying when you log So much economic hardship baseball, but we do know that baseball means a lot to so many people around this country. And what we're going to do is do the very best we can to get baseball back on the field and and you know, and I hope people will be patient with us and understand that there are huge limitations that we're dealing with but I can promise you I can give you my insurance as commissioner of baseball that we are going to have the best effort possible to play baseball and and to make this season a memorable one that are Baseball fans and then back those words up it is so frustrating to me that nobody was willing to go out front and do that and and you know, if you had to pick what's going on with the game and why the game is using trouble I think you know, that's as good that's as good a good assign as as as any really baseball had such a great dog. Trinity here too. I mean people have been saying this for weeks now, but they're like baseball had an opportunity to be the first sport back in America and they had an opportunity to at the very least. I do creative and positive things before the game actually came back. Yes. I did instead. They spent three months in fighting and backbiting and and just like walk through the offseason that we had with Brandon Talman and then to cheating investigations sure. I was like waiting for spring training because I was like when there's no baseball. The only things that get talked about are the problems that baseball has but at least when there's baseball being played, you know, I mean, it's kind of like a Band-Aid on a bullet wound, but at least there's actual baseball to talk about and we had it for like two weeks and then it went away again. Obviously it had to go away but you're kind of like I can't believe this is how you chose to spend your coronavirus off. There are so many other ways that they could have been functioning during this time and it just kills me to watch baseball just continuously kill itself. Yeah, it's incredibly frustrating and I and I have to tell you and I don't want this to come off as as immodest in any way cuz I don't mean at this way, but putting together this this month campaign to celebrate the Negro Leagues and celebrate the Negro Leaguers and see the response that is, and see how many people have stepped forward and see we did this on nothing. We we had no budget literally the website I do it has I I designed it. I I bought the the the the the domain it's I do the entire thing and and to see what we were able to do how much joy were able to spread how much awareness we were able to spread with nothing with absolutely nothing. And then to see how little baseball was able to do during this time. I have to tell you it's very frustrating to me. It's very frustrating to have unlimited resources unlimited reach. How did they not try to celebrate the game and bring some joy to people all across the country. Look it's nobody's fault that they're not on the field. This is a global pandemic. This is a terrifying virus that has overtaken everybody and it's nobody's fault, but just sit back and bicker and and fight off and and people just just beating on the game day after day after day, you know, just being in the middle of this campaign and how good it feels it reminds me so much how much people want to be inspired how much people want to be in the middle of something that they can feel good about and baseball had that opportunity and wage. And to watch him squander it was as just been very very frustrating for me as a fan not as a writer, you know, I you know, I write about the game but as a fan very frustrating to see that happen. Absolutely, it's not only that they wasted they squandered the opportunity. It's that they did like the polar opposite of what they cuz it's not like they just did nothing. It's like they actively made baseball in the news for all the wrong reasons and just like like you said, we're already living in a global pandemic. There's already serious social justice issues in you know over taking the country and rightfully so because these are things that are important it's like we didn't need baseball destroying itself on top of all of those things. We needed baseball to either like kind of put up or shut up, you know, like you're either making things better or you're part of the problem. That's when they they really just went all in on like making themselves look as bad as possible and like use as a fan as somebody who covers baseball but also as someone who just loves baseball so much has it been hard for you to get excited about baseball coming back. I mean setting aside job The obvious health concerns because we have no control over that obviously, but when they actually finally announced that baseball was coming back. How did you feel I have felt so often reflected. Yeah. Yeah. I I feel like I could get excited about baseball game as if you know, once we see people on the field and and and you know, even even just seeing people it camps throwing the ball around I think will feel really good. I'm I find my biggest conflict to be that I don't believe it, you know, and it's not this one. I did not blame on anybody. I don't believe in anybody in baseball. I just don't I just look and see where the country's going and I don't believe that in a month. We're going to be in a position or I guess now in three weeks we're going to be in a position where we can play baseball. I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I hope that that that that we can we can stem this this this recent song. This recent rise in cases and and and hopefully get the the death count Lower and all of those things that that I know some some brilliant and wonderful people are working on but it doesn't look that way to me. So, you know my daughter graduated from high school this year and and so we are we're trying to figure out what college is and you know, we've been given a plan for we're off for her college and where she when she should show up and and how it's going to work and here are going to be the social distancing rules and we want to get excited about it for her, you know to be going to college but none of us believe that that's the way it's going to be. I mean, we you know, we'll get a lot closer. Well, no, but none of us believed that and that's sort of how I feel about baseball right now. I you know, I mean everybody's going at it with with the best of intentions. There are some players who already say, they're not going to play and I don't blame them one bit. We got yesterday a waiver. From the baseball if you want to go to the park to cover the games, there's a three-page waiver sort of saying, you know, you acknowledge these risks and and you won't Sue and you'll do all these other things off and all of that feels very rushed to me and very sort of like well, I mean, that's where we are on July 2nd. Where are we going to be on July 15th to be on July 23rd. I mean, I don't know so so it's hard for me to get excited. It really is it's hard for me to feel like we are like we are definitely had the right direction cuz I just don't know but I will say look I'm as a baseball fan and I know you're the same way. When we actually start seeing people throw the ball and hit the ball and and and field and run the bases. Yeah, the juices will start going again. I mean, it won't be the same as as the past but you know, it'll be new and in a different way. I think it'll be it'll be wonderful to see this game that we love being played again. So, you know, I'm I'm hopeful but I'm also I'm also skeptical about a lot of the things that we're hearing. I actually saw while we were recording Florida reported ten thousand new cases in a day. It's crazy. Wow, and you have two baseball teams that play in Florida. So like how are you going to have teams from other places going to Florida those teams going out of flourish? What this is brought into Focus for me more than ever is that germs are everywhere and this world is absolutely crazy. And so I mean I was surprised that Canada's even letting the Blue Jays place. Rogers and have other teams come to Canada like even the way that United States are handling this I was shocked. It's like why would you want Americans coming to your country right now? Yeah, it's it's it's well, you know, I was thinking about this you remember at the very very beginning. I mean, I think you're going back to April now probably one of the one of the the very prominent plan for that was in place was for the players to play all the games with Florida and Arizona. Remember when they were going to do that they were going to they were going to they were going to basically pour in a bubble plan right in Florida and her some of the biggest thought beds of now they are two of the biggest to exactly it's not even like part two of you know, like foul. She said he's like this isn't even the second wave. He goes, it's just this is your first wave part too because you guys didn't comply and that's what's so crazy is people are acting like this isn't going to happen again. It's like working when we didn't even make it out of part one successfully home. Could write well, but I mean that just tells you so so you know how How can any of us get super excited about a baseball season when two months ago literally they were saying to play all the games in Florida, which is you just said reported ten thousand two cases, Arizona, which is an absolute petri dish right now. I mean, it's absolutely horrifying and frightening. What's happening in Arizona. You got two teams in Texas one owner talking about having fans in the stands in a state that is absolutely in free-fall with with covid-19 so long. So yeah, I can't I can't get excited because I don't believe any of it. I mean, we'll see I know that these are the best laid plans of this what you do. I know there are people out there who are mature listening who are saying, oh, you know this come out. We're just making too big a deal out of this it'll be fine whatever but I don't believe that I just don't I just feel like We are we are heading the absolute wrong way with with covid-19 and summer has not brought the relief that I think so many of us hoped it would and and I'm I'm scared and and I feel like baseball isn't the only sport in play here. You know, the NFL you hear whispers about them talking about shortening to season the NBA plan is is is dead varies. I mean, they're going to do that, Florida. Are you kidding? I mean, does that make sense to anybody? So so, you know, I think we're talking a lot now about what might be but you know, it just makes is an awfully long time. It's funny because I actually originally was so first of all excited about the NBA's plan but also jealous because I said, it's such an incredible content opportunity for the NBA like they get to be at Disney World trip players get to have the whole park to themselves and the contents going to be so fun. And I said, Wish MLB could do that because God knows they need a marketing opportunity. They need a good content opportunity much more than the NBA. I mean the NBA does pretty much everything from that standpoint. And you know now it's like well how I don't see how the NBA can go to Florida like the Celtics reported 0 positive tests from their players, but going down to Florida right now is kind of like seeing the mouth of hell and being like Oh, I should just pop in for a second. It's it's definitely the state struggling the most right now and and and they don't seem to know what to do about it down there. And and so, you know, I mean, it's just like I say, I mean one thing that I think does get lost and and I fall trapped to this sometimes and I think it's important not to fall trap to this. This is hard. Stuff it really is. I mean, I I know you know, I I beat up on baseball and and you know, like like the rest of us do and I can't stand the way that they may have presented this but this is this is really unprecedented. The stuff that we're facing is unprecedented. The health risk were facing are unprecedented the the you know, the way the counter the moment that the country is in right now is unprecedented. We've never been in a moment like this before and there are no easy right answers for anything. Everybody is trying their best and wage and I I do think it's important to acknowledge that I do think it's important to say, you know, hey, everybody is trying to figure out what the right thing to do as I thought the NBA plan made great said when they announced it, but that's my point when they announced it is three weeks ago four weeks ago you look at it. Now. It looks like you would never make that plan now and dead. Three weeks four weeks from now when the plan is supposed to go into effect or when the season I guess is supposed to get going. Who knows where we'll be. I mean, there's there's just no telling where will be so I you know, I yeah, I know these people cannot take it day-by-day like the rest of us do but but realistically I just find it impossible to believe that anybody feels like they can look into the future ahead and tell you where this thing is going cuz I don't think anybody knows it's crazy. I mean, I agree with you a hundred percent that obviously I mean the only precedent for this is the influenza from like nineteen eighteen thousand and there are so I mean, you can't even compare because no I mean most people didn't even own a car television hadn't been invented like to compare that to now is such an insane comparison, but I think at the same time it's like when you have new developments every single day, what you have to be able to do is adapt to them. You sure just double you can't just double down and so we're going to have to see what happens. with these sports leagues because doubling down right now is the the worst thing that they can do, you know, they're going to have to roll with the punches and they're going to change to adapt and they're going to have to change what their plans are because you can't I mean like we're seeing experts saying that we could end up with a hundred thousand new cases a day. Yeah, if the country keeps going and it's I mean South Florida alone had ten thousand new cases in a day. So you have to you have to say OK like three weeks ago even two days ago things were different and we have to Pivot. Yep. Yeah, that's odd percent, right. You have to you're going to have to adjust everybody's going to have to adjust and and it's not easy to do that. But but you know adjustments are going to be constant and they're going to be mistakes made that just are there's no way around it and everybody's going to have to understand. The risks and and and the risks are are you know pretty Monumental so all of us want baseball back all of us want basketball back all of us want football all of us want these things to happen all of us want to go back to something resembling what life used to be like it is there's no nobody is against that all of us want these jobs to come back all of us want these business needs to be thriving again. But you know, you can't wish this thing away. You can't wish away or force it away or you pretend it doesn't exist. You can't walk in those those things just will not work and we'll see because I mean baseball we've definitely been you know, pretty upfront about how we feel baseball has mishandled this but the reality is the last 3 months of arguing and fighting it'll go away. It really will like that stuff doesn't matter. It's a lot like a lot like, you know, really really nasty negotiating. In between ownership and a player and everybody goes a little carry-over and it really does and I mean, you know, maybe in tiny ways but in general everybody moves on I think everybody will move on from those things, but the real test for baseball is how it's going to handle it from here on in the real test for baseball is how it's going to handle starting a season and then having you know eighteen players test positive and how do you deal with that? And the real test for baseball is when if a player gets very ill and has to be hospitalized and and what is the game do I mean these are these are very very real possibilities and and things that that all of us could see I mean it's it's it's very frightening and and and it's going to have that handled with a Deft Touch with adjustments all the time and I hope baseball's up to that task because it's it's not an easy one at all. I don't envy anyone in these positions. Of making the decisions about these things because there I mean there's obviously the right things to do in the wrong things to do at a certain point. You have to listen to Medical experts and make a decision. But in general it's hard to know the right path overall and I don't envy them having to figure that out when there's zero precedent to handle this. It's it can't be easy. But but before I let you go, I want to go back to your writing for just a minute because we went down the covid-19 hole. Yes, and as someone who has been an Avid Reader and admirer of your work for such a long time, I would much rather talk to you about like your own work than the global pandemic that is surrounding our lives like the pink slime from Ghostbusters 2, right? So the baseball 100 for people who don't know you ranked the 100 greatest baseball players, who is somebody that you put on the birth About 100 that you don't think that like people didn't see coming or that you were particularly excited to cover because it seemed a little bit more unexpected. Yeah, the baseball one that was what a what a thrilling and and wild project that ended up being. I mean, you know something that that for years. I've been I've been you know talk about raining the hundred baseball players like started projects in the past and and gotten reasonably far but never got to the end and and and then we came up with this idea at the athletic to do it in a couple days. So we were going to do it literally one a day from December whatever it was to end on opening day. It was supposed to end on on when baseball's regular opening day was and you know a hundred stories in a hundred days and these are all extensive, you know deep dives into people was the job Exhausting. I mean it was it was something you know, I I can't believe how many times during this time period that I was doing it that I would say to myself what what the world why am I ever have agreed to do this? I mean it was it was incredibly involved in intense, but it was so much fun that it just kind of get me going and you ask which players took it out. I mean the truth of the matter is every day. I would be energized by the player that I was writing about, you know, so so because I learned so much about them even players they felt like a knew a lot about so I remember early on I mean relatively early on maybe 20 and or something like that. I was already beginning to get tired. I mean that's three weeks of writing a literally every day and like I say these these pieces were, you know, 2500 words three thousand words four thousand words. So these were these were very involved stories so long I remember about twenty in or so. I got the Carlton Fisk and I you know, I already had the list of players that I you know, I I drank them and I got the carltun faith. Can I you know, I felt like I you know, I wrote a book about the 75 Reds, which obviously was the year the Carlton Fisk hit his homerun. So I had done some research on Carlton Fisk in the past days Fair wage if it stays Fair have you jumping up and down down the down the first base line? But I dived in till like real like deep research and I came out of it with this really touching beautiful story about Carlton Fisk and his dad and his father was such a you know, he was tough and and and he expected a lot and and and you know, the young Carlton Fisk was a brilliant brilliant basketball player as well as a baseball player and I mean good enough to play in college at Notre Dame and as a basketball player and so on but he never felt like he he impressed his father. He never felt like his dad his dad never really said, you know great job. He never got that from his father and and there's just this beautiful moment. We're we're Carlton Fisk is going into the Hall of Fame and he he's gets to that point where he's thinking his father and he says to his dad something to the effect of birth. You know what? I know you always tell people cuz there's there's famous stories as a Red Sox fan. I'm sure you know where we're Carlton fisk's father was walking through the Red Sox Clubhouse. And and one of the players she came up to him and said, oh you're Carlton's father and and his father said no Carlton's my son. You know, like let's make let's be clear what who's and life-altering fist looked at his father on the day goes into the Hall of Fame and he says, you know, I've always been proud to be your son. But today you're my dad and I just there's that's There's Something Beautiful about that. And and if every if felt like every story had enough like that that just completely energized me, of course writing about the Negro Leagues players wage was particularly special to me. I think there are eight in in the list maybe nine. So each of those because those came as a surprise. I'm sure to a lot of people so suddenly you're dead. You know, you're reading about Rickey Henderson and George Brett and and and and Walter Johnson and these great players but then pop Lloyd Pops in or Oscar Charleston pops in and and and you know, I think that that makes me feel great when I can really put these these great players in context, but every one of them was fun and exciting and and the response to them were was just absolutely enormous. I mean, like I say in a lot of ways again and the timing of it was probably it probably worked out well because people were at home and they wanted to read about baseball and and this was something that was out there for them. So that was that was pretty good for for the series bad for life, but good for the series and and and it was really special. It was really special. I mean as I knew it was going to be a a fun and challenging series, but it turned out much wage. Tip your cap campaign to be so much bigger than I'd ever expect them. I mean, it was such an undertaking. I was like, oh my God, he's really doing one every single day. Yeah. This is this is incredible, you know the top five any one of them could be number one as far as I'm concerned. I mean, maybe even the top seven or eight any one of them could have been number one and I could have made a very strong argument for them to be a number one. So when it got to that point, you know, you start putting them in order and and and you know that people are going to respond when they see Barry Bonds and number three, you know or Ted Williams at number six or whatever the case maybe people are going to respond and be angry, you know, because they believe that you'd be number one and that that's the kind of anger. I love right? That's the kind of those are the kinds of arguments. I want to have rather than some of the arguments that we are having so long, so it was very special for me and very fun for me and then of course to get the number one and have Willie Mays number one and have all the Babe Ruth people, you know up in arms, you know, which I understand is dead. Is it was a perfect ending for me for the whole thing? It's also interesting and such a like a an undertaking to do that kind of list because baseball has changed so much and players are so different over the last, you know, a hundred plus years. It's like the whole like when Adam ottavino said that he could strike out Babe Ruth and you know, of course the internet like them into flames, right or you know, people comparing one of the biggest things that kind of made me a little crazy was when shohei ohtani was coming up. Do you remember how everyone was talking about calling shohei? Ohtani the next Babe Ruth? Right? Right and I wrote this whole article and I was like guys shohei Otani is doing something completely different because Babe Ruth didn't start, you know be coming off in the SWAT until he basically gave up pitching all together, right? Like I mean, he he still he still hit a lot of home runs with the Red Sox, but those crazy Offensive stats only happened once he gave up the mound. That's a hundred percent. Right? Yeah, but the Babe Ruth thing is a whole fun conversation. Anyway, because you know, you always have these people to go he was he was the one of the greatest pitchers and he was the greatest hitter. So, how could he not be number one? Well, he wasn't that good a pitcher. I mean, he was very very good in the end. He he had the the the the world series record for four scoreless innings for a long time, which was great. He was very good. No question about it, but it wasn't Walter Johnson and he wasn't he one page taking nineteen ninety nine, Martinez or Babe Ruth a day. Well, forget all I mean, yes, Bob Gibson and Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson and Rodger Clemens and Pedro and I'm not even talking about them in his own time. He wasn't Johnson. He wasn't paid Alexander. He wasn't you know, I mean he was young. He was once a young he wasn't Christy Mathewson. He was good. He was a very very good picture if he had Eat a picture. He might have made it to the hall of fame. I don't know. He might not have but it certainly wouldn't be remembered as as as anything, you know, as as people wouldn't be talking about him to this day. He said they're talking about him because of what he became his hitter and and he never really did them together. He did hit as a picture and his last year as a pitcher. He was sort of a part of both ways, but you're a hundred percent, right? What's shohei ohtani was trying to do and is trying to do and hopefully we'll continue to try to do is pitch and hit in the same year that that had favorite did not do that. That is it's just different just as an aside one of my favorite Babe Ruth stats is that aside from his twenty-nine home run season in nineteen, nineteen. No Red Sox batter hit more than 30 home runs in a single season between 1901 and 1921. And then the season that he hit twenty nine home runs. None of his teammates hit more than three. Yeah. Yeah, and that was still shut off. I was still while he was pitching. So like you know that that to me like is a sliver of the shohei ohtani thing, but that was the only year so it's still not it's not the same know. I mean looking that was the one year that he really pulled off the show a Otani the double duty right that even that was the one year. I mean, you know he hit he led the way home runs and in nineteen eighteen to but it really was Nineteen nineteen and he was mostly a hitter by then in nineteen. Nineteen. I mean he in fact in nineteen. Yeah, Mom was mostly it looked like he got he pitched and I'm looking at his numbers now and he was good. He wasn't great. He was good pitched in 17 games that year was nine and five of the 297 are a witch 297 tra in nineteen. Nineteen was barely it was average. I mean he was he was fine. He was he was a good. You're like, oh my God that oh, yeah. Yeah because nowadays wage. Grow up with runs, right? But you know Rick Porcello has a for you're like, oh, that's really good. No, it's not it our standards are so low now it's like someone makes it through seven innings in baseball. You call it a good game. I'm like, that's just the facts used to go out and pitch complete Game shutout on the regular. Oh now it's like if someone lasts past the sixth inning, it's a quality-of-life. It's it's a very different time obviously a red. But yeah, I mean, you're looking Babe Ruth. He had one truly epic year in 1916 as a pitcher and then he was he was good as a mature. But but people of people have tended to exaggerate how good he was as a pitcher and how long he did it his his greatness. If you want to talk about Babe Ruth and his greatness. It was about adding was not about as pitch. I I did love though that you know in the 1916 World Series, he pitched all 14 Innings. Yep of that game. And he also I think had like the loan or bi or something. And and that was the longest game in in postseason history until the 2018 World Series and the opponents were the same. It was the Sox and the Dodgers game. I loved that symbolism so much. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. But yeah baseball was completely different back then. So before I let you go we ask everybody this question on the show off. What is your favorite sports memory and it can be a game that you played in a game that you covered a game that you were just at literally anything but we always want to hear what everybody's favorite sports memory is I've written about this so it doesn't have to be baseball or does it need to be baseball? No. No, it doesn't. I mean like we asked Keith foulke and I was pretty sure I knew what his answer was going to be down. And he goes he goes. Oh the Olympics watching America in hockey in the Olympics and I was like, wait what I'm like your your favorite moment wasn't reverse the curse. He's like, well, I guess that too but the Olympics for hockey and it was totally unexpected. So literally anything yeah. Well, I've gotta go similar I've written about this numerous times. My my definitely my fav moment ever was at the 2000 Sydney Olympics when I went completely out of the blue to cover a wrestling Greco-Roman wrestling match. It was the same night that the United States was playing for the gold medal in baseball with with time of the sword as the manager. And so all of the just about all of the American Writers went to that and I don't want to do that. I wanted to try something different. So I went to to a great control Greco-Roman wrestling match to write about a great Russian wrestler named Alexandra, correct? But who at that point was going for his fourth Olympic gold medal. He had not given up a point in any number of years. I don't know anything about Greco-Roman wrestling at all. Even now. I don't know anything about it. I don't know the rules but but the guy was a very easy like a very interesting guy. I went out there to watch it and the crowd was crazy loud and it was just it was such an amazing atmosphere and he was wrestling a guy. I didn't even know his name and the guy was an American and they started wrestling they were doing whatever it is that Greco-Roman wrestlers do and I'm watching and watching and nothing is happening as far as I could see and then all of a sudden everyone in the crowd Like goes hush like like like it was this huge cheer and then everybody went silent like it was it was like the like the the Albert Pujols home run against the Astros, like everybody goes silent and then there's like this huge cheer and I look up and I see that the American had scored a point cuz they had a little scoreboard there. I don't know how to this day. I still don't know how he got a point but he got a point it was the first point that Carolyn had given up in in many many years. He had not given up a single point. So now I'm watching it and going wow, something weird is happening here and really cool and then they they go at it for for however long it is that these these matches last and then suddenly I see karelin bow his head in defeat and like took his hand and the crowd is going absolutely crazy and I'm going what am I watching here? And and it it turned out to be perhaps the great job. Upset the impact in the history of the Olympics. It was when rulon Gardner beat Alexander karelin in the in the gold-medal match of Greco-Roman wrestling heavyweights and off the afterward I've read about it many times not going to go into it. But but all sorts of amazing things happened afterward be running into his mommy running into his dad just it's just all sorts of crazy stories about him growing up as a Dairy Farmer in in in Wyoming. It just turned out to be the most ridiculous amazing incredible stores that I've ever been around and ever will be around and in fact Olympic channel is doing a a big documentary. It was supposed to come out a couple of weeks ago. I believe it's coming out later this month on the Olympic Channel, they're doing this big documentary, and they and I'm in it. I mean the documentary talking about being there when rulon Gardner beat Alexander karelin, so I've been to school Amazing amazing baseball things. I've obviously been to a amazing football and basketball and hockey and Golf and Tennis and and horse racing and all sorts of other incredible things off. But nothing for me will ever Todd top watching rulon Gardner beat Alexander karelin and the Olympic gold medal. And this is why we ask that question because you go what an unexpected and so such an interesting answer. Yeah. Yeah, it goes in a completely different direction. But I also think that some of you including you and Keith are just going for shock value now because I was like, I was like Keith are you just choosing this so you don't say mm wore and he's like maybe marginally know my boss record this I would love to say. No. I just that's so cool. Yeah, it's so cool. Where can people find you on social media and give us the URL for that tip your cap again. I'm going to link it in the show description also, but just just for the listeners, where can they find you know where they can find me a cheap house and ski everywhere. I mean, that's basically I'm the only one but I would definitely want to read word about the about the campaign. If you go to Twitter or Instagram, it's a tip your cap 20/20, which is also the hashtag. We're asking people to Use what we'd love for you to do is post a photo video of yourself tipping your cap to the Negro Leagues. If you have a little story to tell please share it we're asking people if they would send them to us at 4 close at tipping your cap, that's photos at tipping your cap, That would be great. We would love to have them. We have a website dipping your Capcom. We're we're sharing off of this stuff. But really we're interested in people spreading the story. So so being out there telling your friends putting it on social the campaign is going to last until July 23rd, which we hope is opening day and really the idea is just to just to give these great men and women of the Negro Leagues their moment where they're in the conversation where people are talking about them people are respecting what they did and thanking them for changing the game and making the game a better and and the country a better place. Amazing Joe thank you so much for coming on for talking to me for over an hour. Oh my God. Thank you so much for being our guest and for always being so encouraging and kind to me it honestly means the world. I can't even put it into words and just thank you for all of the writing that you do for everything you do for the Negro Leagues and for baseball, it's just thank you. Thank you Gabrielle. I mean you you keep doing what you do. It's it's awesome. So, thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Joe. It was such a treat for me to get to talk to him. He's somebody that I've looked up to for a really long time and I've always enjoyed his writing songs and I learned so much. It's just great to get to talk about baseball in a positive way at least for part of the conversation with somebody else who loves it as much as I do and wants it to succeed even when it is run by people who don't want it to succeed. Don't forget to check out the Tipping your cat movement at tipping your cap, That's t i p p i n g y m o u r c a p. You can also check them out on Twitter at tip your cap twenty-twenty send them your own video or photo of you tipping your cap and check out all of the incredible people who have done so already including presidents Bush Clinton and Obama Nick Offerman and Rob Lowe from Parks and Recreation and players like Yu Darvish Mike Smith. The goat Michael Jordan everyone is doing it and it's just such an incredible movement, and I'm so happy that I got to talk to Joe about it and that they are doing it to honor the Negro Leagues because the lessons and the values of the Negro Leagues are more important now than ever as always. You can follow me on Twitter at GFS t a r r one and you can follow girl at the game on Twitter and Instagram at girl at the game check out articles on girl at the game. Have a great holiday weekend, but make sure to wear a mask and social distance and just remember that this country will only be able to heal if we can follow the rules together and in honor of July 4th. We will send you out with Miss Independent by Kelly Clarkson. Have a great and safe July 4th off off.

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Make The Call

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Make The Call

"Listen up fellas DAX cells built for big and tall guys. Okay. Which means they've got closed built for style built for comfort and festival. Bill, three you get this DSL spent years developing their own sizing patterns, to deliver a great fit every time and every size. And with over one hundred brands DSL, have you looked in great? So head to excel dot com, and check out a store near you, d excel big and tall built three you at DSL dot com. These baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast for Friday may twenty four two thousand nineteen BUSTER only producer day is Josh macaroni, Josh, you and I have some business to settle. I agree with you BUSTER. Let's get to it, please. All right. So earlier in may. I made a statement that the Milwaukee Bucks would win the NBA championship. You said the Golden State Warriors are win the championship. Now, let's face it doesn't look good for the box adults. They lost game five last night to the Toronto Raptors but we never really settled on a couple of things one what happens if the raptors advanced and the bucks, don't advance and then the warriors beat the raptors what is the result of that, because I think our that was implied that it was more of, of warriors versus raptors. Here's the other question. Now, if the raptors advance and the bucks are not out, and then the warriors lose to the raptors who wins. That, that I asked this really is a series open question. How do we resolve those things? Well, logic would suggest BUSTER, that if you're bucks, don't even make the finals that I win the bet now because I'm a good person and because I liked to do things fairly alcohol you that regardless of the Eastern Conference opponent. The warriors will still have to win now. I'm not telling you that, if the raptors end up beating the warriors that you suddenly have won the bet because you have not. But I'm yeah. But I'm still saying that the warriors will win the title, regardless of opponent. But once the bucks lose to the raptors in either game six or game seven which they will you are eliminated from contention. I'm eliminated from the possibility of winning rides what you're telling correct. But the warriors have to win the title in order to for you to win the bat that is accurate. Okay. And we need. Folks on Twitter to weigh in on this question. What, what is the all the Gatien, and I'm asking this question, earnestly, I'm not trying to get out of it. I basically want to take some direction and Josh you and I agreed on the Milwaukee Brewers cap being a payoff for you. If in fact, the warriors were to win the title, did you see the picture of the London Yankee Red Sox hats? I did. And I think they are glorious looking BUSTER. I think they look really are you going to you're going to have one of those caps, maybe replace the brewers cap or what? Well, no. I, I don't want I already have a brewers hat. I, I don't need a brewers hat. Okay. But yeah, I would certainly take one of those Union Jack Red Sox ads. Yeah. Those are those are sweet. They really I emailed you last night saying, I don't wear Yankees. Red sock cap. I never have since I was a kid. I hated the Yankees as a kid because they beat up on my dodgers in the World Series. And just, you know, the whole Red Sox Yankees vortex. You wanna stay out of that. I don't have a Yankees cap. I don't have a Red Sox cap. Those ones are sweet. They really Don. Seriously thinking about getting those go over to know they really are. And obviously, it's been established on the podcast that I am a Red Sox fan. So I wouldn't wear the Yankees version. But I must say, yeah, I think the Yankees one actually looks better. I think it looks more balanced with the Union Jack in the interlocking N Y. Okay. Would you ask your wife to wear? No. What would you think about your wife, wearing it? I would hate it. I think possibly could be grounds for divorce. Maybe even deployed. Well, we don't want to go down that road. Oh my goodness. All right. Let's gives us a baseball. Let's start with this. Look as g Lido he was the man against the Astros. Two and two. G Alito Lucas has strike out number nine and he's one out away from a complete game. Shutout April fifteenth two thousand sixteen as the last socks complete game shutout. This is in the air, third base side on Cada is underneath and doughnuts on Lucas four nothing. Socks complete game shutout but transformed Lucas jail Lido that voice, of course, Jason Bonetti, NBC sports, Chicago man, a Yuqin shut out the Houston Astros. Would with way that they're rolling that tells you something, by the way, Lucas, g Lido a high school teammate of max freed and Jack flaring of the Saint Louis cardinals. I know this because we got Jack Flaherty on Sunday night baseball when the Atlanta Braves and max. Face off against declaration, the cardinals just to be clear, max rate is not going to pitch. But that, that school those three guys were high school teammates out in California, the Phillies played the cubs and early JT real Mutel got everybody's attention. It'll be struck out his first time that one to well Dato left field for Caterpillar. To the trees water, shut by Jake's real Mutoko, other Phillies, take a four nothing lead on the way to a nine seven victory that the voice of Tom McCarthy on NBC sports, Philadelphia, the raised Indians, one of the most exciting plays in baseball happened in this game two one swing and a fly ball of the cabin. Let's center-field Jason his Martine, and they can't get him or keto come together. And they are down the ball skiffs away to let field care, my around second. He's his way to third. He's gonna be Wave Home. It's going to be an inside the park over a three run Homer and the raise of a six nothing lead. Yeah. From day will six twenty w DA the twins play the angels and the twins. Did what they always do. And that is hit a lot of home runs. Matt Harvey was on the mound early for the angels at second Beguel at Peru's one nothing twins. One out top two and the pitch of last to let feel deep Beckett goes deep it goes gone long. Home run for Jonathon snow, way up into the seats in left travel beyond bold bullpens, and it's wins handled four nothing lead in the second grade. Provost Treasure Island baseball network and the twins just kept on getting home runs even after Matt Harvey was out of the game. Swinging to blast in the center field. That's it. Well goodwin. Going back good. When racing at the wall that is gone. And it's wins Homer again any resort to the trees to the right of dead center field. Fifteen to, to the eight home. Run the eighth home run. That's wins if it today as Eddie homers for the fourteenth time as I may eight final score. They're sixteen to seven after the game, Matt Harvey with a seven point five year a talked about his performance probably one of my worst innings ever. One of my worst starts ever. You know it's, it's frustrating and there's. A lot of this team. And, and the organization is one me to do. And I just haven't been able to do that. And especially today, that was those pretty embarrassing for me. So it was it was a rough one. We'll be talking about Matt Harvey coming up, and what his future looks like the Marlins playing the Tigers in my goodness, right now with the Marlins, you can't stop them. You can only hope to contain them. Here's the pitch. Swing here and a ball drill down that left field line is this, fair or foul, it is going to be up up and away. It is a grand slam for Cooper. How about this show the Marlins put on here in the ninth inning? Dave an hor nine forty WINZ the Marlins win five to two Josh a sentence. I never thought it would have uttered in two thousand nineteen the Marlins have won six straight games. I'll be curious to see where they land in next week's power ten BUSTER, man. They have a chance to pass the nationals in the nationally standings this weekend. Speaking of the National League as the Mets and the nationals play the final game of their four game set on Thursday before the game. The Mets announced the UN assess what is had surgery. He's likely out for the season he broke his ankle in incident that the Mets haven't fully described yet. The Mets also lost Robinson canot to a quad injury. Jeff McNeil to a hamstring injury. They're both on the injured list. Now is this game played out the national head the leads, and then the nationals bullpen came into play? And this happened, here's the pitch. Swing and a drive deep to left center going back a way back. Do you like that? Scopus goes, Steve and the midst with four eight fitting magic have taken a six to four lead. And they win this game six two four how he rose on WCBS. They sweep before game series. We'll be talking about the future of Dave Martinez. The nationals manager coming up with Carl Ravitch the Yankees played the Orioles game as a back and forth affair. The Zadie lead the Orioles came back, and then in the night dinning, the keys loaded the bases because Michael Gibbons the best reliever in the Orioles, have lost the plate and this pick. The Yankees take the lead six to five. And they would win six to five that Ken singleton on the yes network Satterfield team. The day. The game of the day was out in San Francisco. The Atlanta Braves playing the San Francisco, Giants and Austin Riley has greatly improved the Braves since he was called up from the minor leagues about ten days ago, spend doing it. Well in the field and left field. Not his natural position. This one's off his knuckles into left. Riley still come looking for help diving try and he came up with what a catch by Riley, scooped it off the turf that was chip. Gary Fox Sports southeast. The Braves are losing forty two top of the eighth inning. Who's at the plate that guy. Austin riley. Hi fly. Ball launch deep lifts centerfield Riley has taken a deep. Love home run for Riley. That again ship Carey so is four two four. The two teams played in extra innings. This is what happened in the top of the thirteenth, use the to pitch to Riley line base. Right field line chasing it down as the quarter into scores swamps in and the drought has ended on a rocket down the right field line by Austin, Riley. What a to strike approach with, with the pitch barreled and got the Braves in front five to four. The thirteenth Jim pal. Six eighty the fan, the life of Reilly continues, he has transformed the Atlanta lineup. He's been terrific as mentioned. We're going to be doing a lot with the Braves on Sunday baseball. When they play the Saint Louis cardinals talking a lot about Austin, Riley, who after that great performance on Thursday, spoke with Fox Sports, south. Means a lot. I mean you know to, to do that, especially with, you know, some of the, the Braves have come through here, Chipper Jones, all those guys, you know, it just, you know, special, and, you know, tribes soak it all in face them, two nights ago. I believe and started me out. I think it went three sliders in a row. Then come back with the fast ball. I just told myself, you know, not going to be laid on the fast ball, you got down to found off a slider. And then, you know, was able to catch up ninety seven in, you know got you know, I was telling myself because I was sitting on a pitch. I was I even backed off the plane, and I was like I can't hit it. And sites are was looking at some video, and he said, I'm just swinging over the top of China. Honestly, uppercut it and, you know is able to the actually through fastened. My hit was a fast ball sized kinda thankfully through through festival along gaming Rondo talking about man were tired. But you know bullpen was outstanding. You know, every everyone they relied out and, you know, it's expected of them because the arms are there and they're that good. Coming up a great conversation with Bob Kendrick, the president of the negro leagues museum about the great outpouring of response that happened after a case of vandalism at his museum last June. We're also be talking with Jake Kaplan athletic about the best team in baseball. Let's get you it. It's the Rabbie tray with Carl Ravitch. Colorado. So's the baseball tonight, play by play man for ESPN joins us via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Where's the Rabbie train going this weekend? Carl grabby crave. Busy Memorial Day weekend. We got a graduation, that barest which were all excited about on Saturday, Sunday a little studio baseball tonight leading into your game. Monday Fenway park for eastern time. The Morial day, the train is rolling the big time on one of the great one of the great holidays for what it represents, as well as the symbolic kicking off of summer. We, we have played so many baseball games had called so many games BUSTER, that felt like it was the middle of November that I'm excited about having some warmer weather than, of course, celebrating our heroes on this Memorial Day. It's a good weekend in no question about it looks like we're gonna have great weather, and I thought that the other day when you had the the cubs game. And it looked like it was about thirty degrees. And I was thinking that you needed to put ten. Kirk tin inside the heater. Right. I mean, sometimes you put blankets on it, but the other day when it was that cold in Chicago and looking at the play I thought, Mike, Tim must be miserable. He wasn't pleased. But I will say this to the credit of our great crew, and we have a great crew, because part of it is like babysitting for us, especially Tim. They had a heater underneath the the table there. So it was relatively warm in the bizarre part of that game was the next day. It was eighty one degrees. So we went from two eighty one. Welcome to may in northeast and the midwest. All right. So I think you'll appreciate this player. Superstition is always a concern for people who do interviews like yourself like me yesterday. We interviewed Josh bell at ten fifteen in the morning. Okay. And the pirates scheduled for twelve thirty start ginger damage to the pirates squeezes in a week in which Josh bell is getting a lot of attention. And as you know, when you do that sort of situation, you don't necessarily root for a team. But Mandy root for players. I was saying, I really hope Josh bell has a good day, and this is what happened in their game yesterday. Okay. The Senator Kerry. Jim. Homers again. Even count, unless he hits it like out of the ballpark, that AT and T sports that the pirates television network. Yeah. So the next time it request comes in for Josh bell become on the podcast. I don't know means superstitious or not Karl in the back of his mind. Is gonna think yeah. The last time I talked to BUSTER I hit a home run afterwards. So that increases our chances. We talked yesterday Carl onto pod with him about the homerun derby. And he was very respectful of the process. He talked about how he's focused on yesterday's game, but he also said, you know, that, that sounds interesting. And this year you'll be the host of the homerun derby, again. And I think we're reached that time of the calendar, where we start to think about that. Josh bell? Absolutely would have to be one of the guys get an invite. Yes. Yeah. You know the grid part of the call. The guy had there on the radio was the idea that it was hit. And he said, okay. And then he's like, carrying carrying and bell has that extra Kerry. It's unlike the pitcher that, that people say, well, the perception, is it picks up speed when it gets the home Nells homers keep flying, and they sort of added another thirty to forty feet of what you'd expect it off the bat. I think Josh bell would be great candidate. I think people like Josh bell and Michael Chavis. You know, to me, the homerun derby, has relied press wise me, so on the stab names, but I think the homeland derby would benefit by a real good mix. And I think Bill, given that he plays in Pittsburgh, given the year these other would be an ideal candidate to go along with one or two or three of the established guys. But this game is so young now I'd love to see some of the young budding superstars in the in the homerun derby, I think it would be great. And belt. He you know, his he hits the majestic homers, he hits the high, you know, the far will add, he'll get the bonus time. Yeah. I think he'd be a great cat of it. But I also I lost her because of what you did yesterday. Josh bell may call you every day. Now you made. There you go. I'll give you some names. And see if we're thinking along the same lines about the potential homerun derby field. I think automatic invites go out to guys like might tragedy. Martinez Nolan are not. Oh. And in all likelihood, those guys will turn it down because that's kind of what they've done in the past. I think he'd be creek if you if you're if you have to be, but you gotta have Aaron judge on the list. I know he's I it's never to happen, but he needs to at least invited to every every homerun derby. Right, exactly. As John Carlos Stanton the same thing, you invite him to everyone, you invite Brice Horford, everyone is going to turn it down as well, Christian yelich, he has to get invite this year. I would hope that he would accept how cool would that be after the conversation you had, and I had with him a few years ago in Marlins camp when he was talking about twenty home runs like it was the most unreachable thing ever. And now he's one of baseball's best home run hitters, George Springer. The Astros would be a great one Cody Bellinger, obviously with this, first half, you'd be terrific. And you you mentioned some of the young guys. Let me throw. Some other names that you sort of off the beaten path Pete Alonso, the midst, he would be a blast in a homerun derby. Great Ronald the Kuni junior of the Braves. He'd be the little guy with a huge power that everyone would be excited to watch Joey Gallo, look, we've been talking about him forever. He would be a lot of fun. And how about Austin Riley, like coming into the big leagues right away reminding everybody of Troy gloss, glosses, big hulking, eventually, it'll be third baseman for them. He's been playing left field later but this guy hits the ball so far. He's already got five home runs in the big leagues. You like my list. I love your list. I again, I would put Michael shavers on it. Yeah. We see the Mets Yankees and Red Sox every night. All he does is really hit homers. He's got a tailor-made swing for a homerun derby. He'd be another name to go with those. I think you're right about Alonzo, and how much he would embrace it all you remember that conversation, by the way. It Marlins camp about yellow because that was when Stanton was there and Dee Gordon was there and Stanton. And Dee Gordon stood next to each other and one will look like a match like live like the match thing you used to use to delay candle. And the, the other one looked like the Eiffel tower and yell, it's sort of like closer to the match than he was the Eiffel tower. And he's always got that, that attitude in that look about. He just woke up. He always says the just woke up look about them. And yet, he, he is turned into an absolute terrific power hitter. So, yeah, that's it's a very, it's a very good list that you have and Gallo name has come up, historically forever. I think we have Joey Galloway assumption is if he's healthy either Santana or Ramirez. We'll do it from Cleveland. I'd love to see Linda do it, but I doubt that they'll let him do it, depending on where they are. And I think this season. You have to have one of the twins in there. You know. And I I'm not sure which one of the twins but they all hit homers two now and I think you probably need a twin in there. Yeah. It's funny you say that because I actually went through the list of twins, you know, potentially CJ krone might be a guy that you would take a look at maybe Eddie resort area would be taken guy guy. You take a look at Nelson Cruz potentially mighty mad. Yeah. And you're right. Because the twins are absolutely killing it. And I think to you. He just want guys who you know, are going to have fun with it. Which is why Pete Alonso. You know he'd be like a ten year old and a wiffle ball game. Just bouncing around getting fired up. Oh, Christian yelich would have a great sense. George Springer whatever great time with that. I think Cody Bellinger, I kind of wonder what his his attitude would beat toward that given how he's done so well in the first half staying with his approach that might be a case, where the player said, you know what I'm going good. I'll just I'll stay with four any guests four and he, he didn't have a great deal of success. I the the beauty of the Springer is that you then bring all the other Astros, because all that they interact with each other into it. So that means bregman involved with it. Vern Lander Astros. Yeah. That, that, that's a big part of it is their level of Volvo with all right. Josh before it gets to one other name. I wanted to bring up, you get any other names. You wanna throw in there, too. I think you guys have covered it. Josh bell, obviously, is is a man for me. Yup. Yeah. Especially with all the home runs hit into the Allegheny. His biggest problem would be home runs. Go so high and so far that he would lose time on the clock. Waiting for them to come down. Okay. So a few years ago, the hot and heavy conversation about the derby, was whether or not to have a pitchers derby, you and I would agree. That's never going to happen there, probably know pitcher would ever have it. But yesterday I was listening to the Braves game on radio Jim pal and Joe Simpson. We're talking about how before the game Madison. Bumgarner was out there taking batting practice and they said he was just killing it. And look over the next two months Madison Bumgarner is going to be one of the most talked about players in baseball because he's going to be traded before the July thirty first deadline. I think that's pretty clear and he's said into free agency and again, I always get back to why not it would be something that we would all be interested to see he would be really into it. I, I strongly suspect that if the giants had reservations before about letting them participate now for hand would say. Say Zaidi, who's head of baseball ops would probably say white. My number one trade chip is going to be in the home run dirty or wants to be in home. And every forget it I still love to see it Carl. Yeah. I hear ya. I'd love to see. It's funny because I before you before you ran off on medicine Bumgarner dialogue here. I was going to cut you off and say every year you fall in the Madison Bumgarner sword. But you haven't brought him up and I figured just out of deference to his inquiry on it had gotten off that train but, but you feel right back on that sort, again, Bumgarner would be cool just see yesterday. The Joe Madden pinch Tyler chat wouldn't today, basically after the game said he, he might continue to do that because he takes legitimate swings to me. That's a separate kind of competition, the pitchers involved in a homerun derby, but yeah. And Bumgarner is just so big, and so strong. It'd be fun to watch all the time. Yeah. And we got this great tweet when I sent out the question about the derby this morning. Excuse me. I've mispronounce his name show. Sh others Kleinman tweeted at us and said he nominates the Orioles pitching staff to be on the other side of this. What do you think for the homerun derby? That that was. All right. I'm sure you, did you watch some of the yes, you're is you watch some of the outfielders for the Orioles after a ball when over the center field wall. They just would collapse against the wall as if to suggest, you know, uncle can we just stop the madness here? This is depressing. Yeah. It's depressing. And we only have four more months ago on maybe three years after that, as long as we're going negative. Let's talk about the nationals day Martinez. Yesterday's the nationals bullpen blew another game. This is what happened give a listen after how Kendrick argued about a check swing. He was elected from the game. The day Martinez came out of the nationals dugout. And there goes the skipper. Get your money's worth now Davey. There goes tap after kicks dirt on home plate. And he pursues, Bruce Dreckman. Just ask for help. It's always asking is ask for some help down there. Gucci Palumbo coming down the line. A lot of frustration right there in the NAT skip reconsidered understandably. Yeah. So that was Bob carpenter. Santangelo describing day Martinez. He covered up home plate. Kick dirt on own played. He threw his hat the whole thing. Curl. I was watching this live. And I thought he came out of the dugout with the way, the nationals are going, you know they get swept by the Mets and a four game series. I thought for sure he was going to get a jetted. It was going to be like, you know what? I'm just going to let them have it. And Dave Martinez is you. And I know is probably the most positive person you ever want to meet in your life. But even for him at this point, it's got to be like, are you kidding me? And there's all this conversation about whether or not, he's going to get fired Thomas Boswell, the columnist for the Washington Post wrote the other day that, you know what he's a terrific person. But he really shouldn't be a manager in, in Tom's opinion. I don't know what that would solve. I get it. I get it. It's kind like with Mickey Callaway yours. Yeah. Let's do managers bringing creek Kimber with them in a variety of other bullpen arms, not a manager issue. I mean they historically loss games here with the bullpen construction that they have and to his credit to his dying credit. He continues to say I think we have the people here. We just gotta find the right ones. But yeah, it, it clearly is, is apparent that he's not going to be one of the right ones to make those decisions. And to me, the question, then becomes, you know, whether it's just him that goes, or is the ownership group willing to knowledge that as, as Mike Rizzo has built this team into the power that they are. They've, they've not been able to take that next step. And here's another season in which I think today, you can say feels like they ain't gonna take that next step again. And you know, that's really to me where this conversation goes, because I think everybody acknowledges, this is not a managerial alone issue. No. And you. Reference, the bullpen Paulin bikinis Ford this number from the last sports bureau. The nationals ERA for the rotation to this point is three point eight nine. They're both penny area seven point zero two, which would be the second worst since nineteen twenty that difference between the rotation area and the bullpen area of three point one three is the largest fifty games since the nineteen fifty to Philadelphia Lennox. That's how bad this bullpen is. And as you say, that's, that's not a day, Martinez thing. But we've reached the stage where I think you and I would agree, whatever happens. We wouldn't be surprised if there was a change of some kind today, we wouldn't be surprised not at all Finn. Look, you know, the ironic part is gut through them. They played the Mets in the midst, of course, we're in a situation where it felt like prior to Brody coming out and saying, you know, Mickey's our guy that one of those two managers were going to go, and now it's the Marlins that they get and you look at the Marlins JIRA. It all of a sudden they're playing well, so Mattingly, this is not another one of those will at some point, both managers are going to be on a real hot seat. That's the division that those guys are in. It's ironic that those two Calloway and Davey were the ones whose were sort of circling around there as who's going to get fired. I and now it appears as if Calloway is, is very safe. And we haven't seen that type of public approval for Martinez from the nuts. It is long as you're going down the negative path. Let's talk about Matt Harvey after historic yesterday in which the twins. Absolutely hammered, and Brad offices manager was asking answering questions about whether or not he's going to stay in the rotation. He's got a seven point five O E, R A in ten starts. He's got a whip of one point five two hembo set along these numbers about how he just absolutely lacks a put away pitch this year in two strike counts. Coral in two thousand in nineteen opponents have to seventy seven batting average a nine forty nine Opie s that's more than double the opium against Matt Harvey in the first seven years of his career, four fifty four and two strikes situations because he used to be the guy who when you got the two strikes. You're dead, Matt Harvey would finish hitters better than any other pitcher. And he's thirty years old Carl, and you're sitting there asking the question is this it like is he done and you and I talked this spring a couple times about these, these contracts that young players are taking. Because they wanna make sure they get paid in some way. Well, Matt Harvey's a cautionary tale because five years ago he was the guy everybody wanted. And now we're wondering if he is a role in major league baseball and move forward. Very fair very, very fair and look, we operate in a results oriented business. If if the numbers say one thing and the results say another, you can have a discussion in his case the results and the numbers both tell you that things have the arrow pointing down and, and he's not alone. I mean there are a bunch of teams that are questioning whether their starting pitchers should stay in rotations. He's, he's the headliner on a team that's probably played a little bit above. It's skis. And I think that's that adds to the, the frustration with, you know, his inability to, to perform, so, yeah, I you know, I it just doesn't feel like I think the difference is when you have these young guys they can either be sent down to work on things or you give them the benefit of the doubt. When you're. Matt Harvey's age the experience. He has, it's, it's very difficult to come up with a new trick. You know. So it's very hard to turn the page on consistently bad performances with regards to the numbers, you're putting up. I would agree unfortunately because I he was when he was good as fun to watch as any pitcher in baseball. No doubt about it. And, you know, every winter, a deal goes down where you get a bunch of text from executives who are not involved saying, what, what were, they thinking a couple of winters ago with the winter meetings when the Rockies gave in Desmond five years, and seventy million dollars. That was the response when the Mets made that huge Robinson canot trade and gave up to top one hundred prospects got a lot of what were they thinking, and I gotta tell you when the angels gave Matt Harvey that eleven million dollars in one year. I got a lot of sex people saying what in the world were. They thinking Carl have a great weekend. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you Sunday night. That conversation was brought to you by Pennzoil. The first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas. The proof is in the Pennzoil. 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E R, ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. It's time for some inside heat on baseball tonight. Jake Kaplan covers the Houston Astros for the athletic and Jake. Let's start with this, or get the question of whether this year's team will win the title, a separate question in terms of affected this in your eyes to date or the two thousand nine nineteen Astros better than the team that won the World Series in two thousand seventeen. I think so. You know, the offense you know to, to, to think that it could be better than twenty seventeen is seems like a stretch, but it might be I think Michael Brantley hot that big of an impact on in the middle of their lineup. Yeah. I think there's a there's a, there's a decent chance. It is. I mean, I think last year's team was was probably better overall based on the rotation strength even though their offense regress. So right now, I would say, yes, and then they're certainly on a pace to win more games than they didn't twenty seventeen. And it seems like a part of that is the fact that Carlos Correa moving a lot better than he did last year. Do you see the same thing? Yeah, his swing looks a lot better. You know, he's, he's already hit as many if not more balls a hundred and ten miles an hour off the bat, then he did all last year. The back issue obviously sapped a lot of his his rotational ability and strength last year. And he's he looks back to being the player that you saw the first top twenty seventeen before he he, he suffered the injury that year. So haven't him in the fourth and fifth hole right behind Brownlee has been a big win for them as well. So what are the ways that you feel like Brantley has helped the team? Well on the field, obviously having the left handed bat in there. They, they got really right handed last year in their lineup. Especially when Josh Radic regressed and Brian McCann regressed and got injured so having that left handed badges, you know, makes it that much more balanced than you have Alex bregman and Michael Bramley back to back to the best contacted or is in the game back to back up. That's really difficult for the opposing pitcher. And in the clubhouse, it seems like he's fit right in, especially with, you know, helping out George Springer in terms of funding routine, and the day to day stuff, sprinters talked a lot about how much friendlies already helped him in that respect. So, you know, he's been a I don't know. It's underrated because everyone seems to recognize it, but he's been a huge addition for this team. So we've seen the last couple of summers. Jeff Luneau has been a big game hunter. Her when it comes to trade market. And we're coming up on that conversation as we get into June and July a couple years ago, the Astros, and I understand it's not only Jeff, it's also owner Jim crane, and other folks in the organization volved that conversation about Justin Burland or last year. They talked about possibly Quiring Bryce Harper before the nationals pulled back on that conversation from the outside looking in it feels like that the area potential area of need the most and this could change with injuries would be starting pitching. Do you see them again going after, you know, a big name one of the best guys in the marketplace? Yeah, if there's one of elible, I do agree with you. I think starting pitching is the biggest area they could stand up great as they kind of look to improve the roster for a potential playoff series. If you got us number three starter there behind Justin Verlinsky, Garrett Cole push Wade Miley. Or Brad peacock that four spot and the other other guys the bullpen. I think that's the biggest where they could strengthen the roster. I it's just a matter of who and I'm not sure, you know, if that caliber of, of Justin Verlander, guys out there this trade season but you know, they have plenty of ammo in their farm system to trade from, and I expect that, they'd explore, you know, all those possibilities as they emerge, and probably the most intriguing possibility would be if the Astros are the team to make a deal with the Cleveland Indians for Trevor power because of all the history that you have there. Do you. I mean look we saw last year. Jeff did not shy away from adding Roberto as soon a- it at time when no other teams were willing to take them on. Would he actually think consider adding Trevor Bowers too much there? I don't know that can interesting one. You know, I think that at least consider it right? I mean he's back good of a picture, and actually Brent Strom. The actress pitching coach is known Bauer for a long time back from their days at the Texas baseball ranch. So be an interesting possibility if, if it was viable there might there might be too much there in the in the back of background. But I don't know that that's an interesting hypothetical. All right. Forty five seconds left eye earlier in the year when I was around the dodgers, it's clear that team has a big chip on a shoulder losing the World Series two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen and there is a lot of motivation in that clubhouse. What's your sense of that with the Astros after they weren't able to go back to back last year? Yeah. I think even last year it was still there. You know, I think part of it is they, they have a bunch of guys who weren't on that twenty seven team who were core parts of this team like Garrett Cole and Michael Brantley those guys have never won World Series. So I think that, that helps kind of keep that fire going, and these and these players also just, you know, they they've felt that sensation. Once they, they wanna win again last year. I think it was the injuries just mounted on them, and they they their offense regressed they, they didn't have the same offense at that your before, but this year, especially if they add a another starter trade deadline, I think they seem they seem plenty hungry to get back there. Well, as you know, Jake is you get asked the same question. I do who do you root for. I always say roof for interesting stories, and the most interesting outcome at the trade deadline would be Trevor Bauer to the Astros. That's what I'm rooting for. I don't know about you. Thanks for doing this. Thanks buster. Are you a big guy fed up with clothes that don't fit? Here's a tip head to d- XL, anyone can make a bigger shirt, but DSL makes clothes that actually fit. It's all they do want to know their secret. Okay. They've spent years developing their own sizing patterns to make sure it's a comfortable fit every time and every size. Good luck finding that anywhere else. So head to d- XL dot com and check out a store near you, d excelled big and tall built for you at DSL dot com. Baseball tonight weekend warrior. Bob Kendrick is the president of the negro leagues. Baseball museum in Kansas City, Bob, how you doing today? Booked up to a great man. Thanks so much for having me on the show. Absolutely always love talking with you. All right. I wanted to get John because we're, we're coming up to the to the one year anniversary of the negro leagues museum being a target of vandalism that happened on June twenty second two thousand eighteen take us back to that day, if he can about how you heard the news. And, and what exactly the damage was. God to play at an early morning around of golf and was that one of my favorite breakfast by eating some breakfast with my coupley, Dr Raymond dies will come and say, man, you gotta get down here in a hurry. The buckle. Neil center is flooding and BUSTER, that time we didn't know exactly what was going on. We just knew that, that was what all over the place. And so, by the time I got there, it was the aftermath, and so they had called a fire department in and you know kudos to the fire department who came in and found a water shut off valve and turn it off, and then they were literally in they're trying to squeeze you all of this massive amount of water that had guiding into the building. And the building that was speaking of is the former Pacelle YMCA, which we've designated as the home of the buckle Neil education and research center, and for those who will be listening, the YMCA Priscilla, why MTA is the birthplace of the negro leagues. That's where the leaks were formed in nineteen twenty we started restoring that. Abandoned building historic landmark, and so when I get there is the after man. And it was really only until we started to explore the building that we finally realized that this wasn't just flooding that the building had been vandalized that someone that very Stephanie got into the building cut a main line waterpipe turned the water off, then cut the pie turned water back on and intentionally flooded to building. And so I think at that point my heart just sank into my stomach. You know, I tell people all the time had it been just an accident. We would have had the same amount of damage that we occurred, but knowing that it was done very maliciously and deliberately hurt even more. And at that point buck the United way to white flag, man. You read to give up old people, and, you know, you can't give up old people if anything that I ever learned being around buckle Neil for so many years. You can't give up on people. But at that point in time, I read the weighted right? Flank, you know, you're just saying that people will do some despicable things who in the world would want wanna hurt this building that the community was so excited about the effort that the museum put into it to save it. And so, and that's when we saw this incredible outpouring star to occur. And so, and I want to get to that in a moment. I wanna ask you first off what have we learned about possibly the person or persons responsible for this not only for this, but that happened the vandalism at the museum happened just a month after. A police believe that there was a fire set intentionally at the homosexual page. Yeah. People, I think, if an eerie coincidence, 'cause I don't think that you had anything connected, but it is just that a very Erie coincidence, that two of the most renowned names and black baseball, and particularly at release to Kansas City black baseball history. Both had something with the names associated to it vandalize in this case Arsim at the former home of the legendary LeRoy satchel page. And then the flooding damage to the buckle Neil education and research center. And again, I don't think that they were connected. But again very Irie coincidence, and to this point, we've not learned very much about either. I'm not sure we gonna have a find out who did these despicable things to those two historic landmarks, and truthfully bus, I've kind of moved away from trying to figure out who did it and why they did it to just trying to get into a mode of resolution. Let's get it fixed and move on because I think what we have to do. And this is something that you kinda. Of hopefully embraces that you cannot allow the hater to win. And I think that's the spirit in which we've kind of kind of looked at this, and the resolve that we have, and I think giving us even greater resolve to make sure that we get this building finished, and that buckle Neal's dream will certainly be fulfill, and that was the most important thing to him outside of building the current negro leagues baseball museum where we are. He wanted to have that education research center built in his memory because education was always at the forefront of his coexistence. And so we're determined even more. So now to make sure that hits his dream becomes a reality. I thought of you and I thought of that, vandalism actually when we saw the fire in France, with, with Notre Dom recently. Because you mentioned that sick feeling in your stomach of all my God, because no matter to some degree, no matter what you do. They're going to be things that are lost that you're not going to be able to get back. What were some of those things at that time for you? Fortunately, fortunately, FIS very fortunately FIS, the buck O'Neil Senate where they still developing center, so beyond just some of the infrastructure that was no artifacts memorabilia, anything like that. And the building, thank goodness. So we didn't have any of those kinds of laws. It was just more structural laws. But we had taken, and if you're familiar with ole YMCA's, they all had the gymnasium in, and then they had to track that ran around the top of the gymnasium as a matter of fact, you couldn't shoot a jump shot from the corner, because the track was through lower overhead, forget, everything straight away. Well, we had taken that. Oh, gymnasium BUSTER and turn it into one of the most elegant events basis anywhere in the city and, and for all of that word was destroyed. I mean, we're talking about this beautiful custom parquet flooring would have imagined the Boston Garden where you walked in just absolutely gorgeous. And as negative can say when. I walked in that building and seeing all that water on that custom parking. Oh my goodness. One of the one of the reporters say, well, you know, you taking it pretty good. I say you don't understand. I've crying on his side. I'm. Smiling outwardly. Keeping his optimistic outlook on his side, I cry because I knew that custom floor was going to be destroyed. Any was. And so we got a care of everything that was had been done and redo it again. And so that always, you know that, that hurts. But again, the pain has been lessened by, again, to support of so many people that from across the country, who heard about this, and wanted to try and eat a little bit of that pain and angst for us here at the movies baseball museum. Yeah. Let's get to that good stuff. Okay. Tell me about that response. And if you can't because as a lot of times donors, they'll give things they don't want people to know. Some, some people, I'm hoping to do give you things that you're able to talk about specifically about the donations in the aftermath of this. Yeah, it was incredible. Because as I was probably it was probably one of the lowest point in both my professional impersonal career here at the negro leagues baseball museum. I don't know if I felt anywheres perhaps outside the date at my different buckle. Neil did not get voted into the national baseball hall of fame. It was a similar kind of Philly. And when you fill your lowest, and as I said, you're ready to give up on people what happens people step up to the plate, and they stepped up in wage, which just renewed spirit in mankind, because all of these people, very Seth Asli from around the country started an outpouring of donations to the museum. And you know what BUSTER, it didn't even mad at what the amount of money was because what we were literally kids raising funds to send to the museum and you had individuals who just felt so compelled and at that point in time we weren't even asking. For the support because we're still trying to wrap our arms around everything that happened. But people felt so compelled by this that they just started sending in contributions, and, like I say, even more than the amount of money, and we're talking several hundred thousand dollars that were raised by the time you factor in the support of major league baseball who is so very generous and the players association of entities around the country. We're talking several hundred thousand dollars that were raised to help offset the damage to this building. It just renewed your spirit in people, and your belief in people, and it was something that we are ready new deliberate. Buckle Neal was so beautifully and elegantly say that people will do bad things, and good people will fix them. And the good people snapped up to help fix them. But even more importantly, for me lifted not only master, but I think in the spirit of entire group of us who apart of this organization and, like, I say it. It's made a big, and even deeper. Now to resolve so great to make sure again at the hater does not get the last word this building will be done in the spirit of buckle. Neil, and so many others will benefit from it as a result of, but it does not happen without the good wheel of so many people the majority of them, we've never met before, many of them have never stepped foot inside as museum. They just understand how important these things are so that we can continue to help educate people about the richness and the history of the negro leagues and what it meant both on and off the field. And so it was just overwhelming the support was overwhelming. I'm still overwhelmed by the outpouring of love that we got from so many people around the country. If our listeners one some of our listeners wanted to, to help out how would they do that? No, they could go online to it. L B, M dot com. They will baseball him dot com. There are places that you can donate, if you're so inclined and certainly those contributions are always welcome and needed, as we are now in that cleanup phase for the building. We have a goal to have that building open by February thirteenth twenty twenty and that Busta will mock the actual one hundred anniversary of the founding of the negro leagues in that very building. How poetic would that be? Wow. Have a ceremonial circumstance in the very building which rube foster formed, amigo leave here in Kansas City in nineteen twenty on that actual date to have the buckle meal education and research center, opened in some capacity and a ceremonial event there one hundred years later and that's our goal. And we're working. Diligently to, to make that happen. And thanks to so many who have supported this, and others who may consider supporting this, and our friends at major league Baseball Players Association and the city of Kansas City, Missouri, who have been tremendous partners through this entire ordeal. Let's make that happen. Bob, I've really appreciate your time. And I'm so glad that, you know, I mean buck O'Neil resonates his words, resonate even after something awful like that happened. Yeah. No dispute of buckets deal very much alive and well and, you know, I know you had not notebook and for those who didn't get kids book, you know, his spirit is still playing here. The legacy of buckle Neal is alive and well here at the Middle East baseball museum. He's one of the most incredible people ever had an opportunity to make great baseball player. But an even greater human being fully cheer tweets. All right. Bus your let's go into the holiday weekend with some good Bleacher tweets. We got this one from cross fit school of sweat. He's at school of sweat says, if things progress as they have to this point, who's going to win American League rookie of the year will Vladimir Guerrero junior. Get the votes based on all the high peace add over the past couple of seasons or will Michael Chaveas get the credit that he's earned. Well, Michael J is certainly going to get the credit that he's earned. But in the end, it'll be bled junior last nine games hitting three oh, six three fifty nine base percentage, five homers and thirty nine plate appearances. Now, e you wonder sort of the impact of playing on a bad team. And that's what the Blue Jays or this year. There's actually good and bad to that on a daily basis. I think there's more energy, if you plan on a good team. But Josh I've seen this place before where a good hitter on a bad team that's getting blown out day after day, the opposing pitcher and manager like just Rama heater. Yeah. Like just Roma fastball. He and because of that you see the players get opportunities to do damage in one-sided games. And I think the Blue Jays are going to be in a few those and Vlad junior will do damage. That's interesting. And you mentioned the bad team versus good team. Dilemma, I feel like in terms of perception when it comes to voting on stuff like this, a lot of times we've seen with the trout argument is he really the MVP, if the angel stink, I feel like that's less of a factor for rookie of the year. Than it is for 'em. VP. Would you agree? Yeah. I would agree with that, for sure. No, no no doubt about it. I think it's an open editing. And in fact, I don't think raiders really care that much about it. All it can be like an extra Chit like if you had a young ace pitcher, leading a staff that makes the playoffs that could be a plus. But I agree with the generally. It doesn't apply Rena at Rena banana says out of the teams that are likely not in playoff contention, which one is your favorite to watch and why angels trout like all every night. I'll spend the spend two and angels game on television to see trout's at bats because he's fun to watch best one to follow those the Mets because of the soap opera. I mean it's you can't take your eyes off it Brock Hoover, at smooth who've says are the royals along just a little bit of pitching away from being a playoff contender. Or am I just a salty cardinal fan after watching a couple of games with the D H Brock? I did think they're putting some stuff together. When you look at the guys in the top five. Spots are likely that, you know, that, that looks like a core of guys kind of, like, what when they put the Ha's Moore's Staka says, and those guys together you could see that coming together for the royals, but they need a lot of pitching, not a little bit. Yeah. David Cooper, at D underscored coops underscore seven says the Rockies are struggling in a similar way to the Mets with veterans such as Chris, I Etta, hitting about two forty five in Desmond around two thirty, Mark Reynolds right around the Mendoza line of two hundred and Daniel Murphy below that at about one ninety with these results. Will we see the end of contenders? Acquiring veterans know we're going to see a lot of good veterans on the move before the July thirty first deadline. But you're right about the Rockies with some of the guys that they invested not pay off. And we set it. I remember that the moment that he and Desmond when you heard about that deal, five year, seventy million dollars. People were texting me with other teams going. What are they thinking? They were just surprised. And that's deal hasn't worked out Danny Murphy was hurt early this year. So. You give that more time. And you hope that he bounces back. More Reynolds is kind of a hot and cold guy, and remember, they're not paying him a lot of money. But to this point you right. The Rockies have not gotten the production, they may have been -ticipant and finally, this from Tyler Greenall at Greenall Tyler we got into it with Carl about the nationals, and Dave Martinez. But Tyler says it even fair for the nets to fire Davey. It's not like he put this joke of a bullpen together. Now, it's not fair. But what did they say about what life is not fair BUSTER? You took the words right out of my mouth. That's what I was going to say that, that, that's exactly right. Life is not fair. And it's, it's the way of the world. Also the way of the world to have a long weekend here BUSTER. We will talk to you again on Tuesday. And when we do, so we will need your Bleacher tweets. So get them in using the hashtag Bleacher tweets. Yeah. Memorial Day for me. I'm my son is going to be a band in a Memorial Day parade. Something that was really important to my mom is a kids go out and put flags in front of headstones and cemetery just. It's an important day to think about people who lost their lives in the service of this country. And that's awesome. Not all kidding aside. Hats off. That's that's really cool. That, that you guys are doing that. Yeah. So that the definitely lined up for Monday when I get back from Saint Louis, and what about you just taking a long weekend and doing some stuff. But obviously in my mind going to be thinking about what the holiday is really about in. It's not just about picnics and barbecues, there's some real meaning to it as well. And going to keep that in mind, and I think about Jerry Coleman every time the former Padres broadcaster, he's one of two major leaguers, who served as a flyer in both wars, the other was Ted Williams. And, and I was around Jerry so many times when people would come up to him and said, it would tell him, you know, thanks for being a hero. And he would always say time and time and time again. I'm not the hero. The heroes of the, those poor guys, this poor people who lost their lives in service of the country having great weekend. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball tell forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout, all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pod center. Baseball tonight, the podcast.

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The One With Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum

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The One With Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum

"Men who are above a certain age like having a Snapchats creepy. That's what I said like when athletes put their Snapchat and like their bio of their Instagram and Twitter and I'm like, oh how I know you're a hoe exactly like no one has ever Snapchat was invented for people to send nudes without repercussions. No one has ever had a Snapchat for Good Intentions, right? It's June and actually not true exactly off. The main lights. No, mama family was watching a show me what song you're welcome to girl at the game the podcast by women for everyone in partnership with clns media where your host Gabrielle founder of girl at the game and a log Send and this episode is brought to you by BetOnline your online Sportsbook experts Shadow bet online for continuing to just keep on when there's no Sports. So impressive just like us surviving means people are finding ways to gamble on like anything now. So anyway, first of all, I just want to say thank you to everybody who listen to our most recent episode with, Austin and gave us feedback and engage with us in conversation. It was a really special episode for us to put out and we are committed to continuing this conversation moving forward continuing to educate ourselves and we'll talk a little bit later in the episode about some progress that's being made in a lot of things. We still need to keep fighting for this isn't like a one-and-done situation. But before we get to that page just a few quick updates sports are coming back NBA season looks like it's going to be moved up not by much just today, but we'll take what we can get right and also Shams charania of the month. Athletic reported today that teams will be allowed to take up to Seventeen players to Disneyworld for the return. So that's noteworthy for Celtics fans because it might mean that Taco Fall season is not over to Taco Bell. Taco Fall is a time to a two-way contract. So those players split time obviously believes in the NBA and the g league but aren't traditionally allowed to play in the playoffs. So part of this expanded roster is that two way players will be allowed to participate in the return. So hopefully we see him down in Disney cuz that makes for some great content. Yeah. I I mean we've been talking about how much we are excited for NBA Disney remember those commercials when we were kids where it was like, I'm Hannah Montana and you're watching Disney one, then they draw the mouse ears and it goes to like the globe music. Yeah, so I did that for Kemba LeBron, Chinatown. Also did it for I did like five or six of them because I was having I was like texting him all videos. Like I'm having so much fun with this. I love so now I can do one for taco which makes me really happy. It's like if they're allowed to ride on rides and stuff right keep the park open like would he even be allowed on a single ride with how tall he is like imagine that took a roller coaster. Well, I was thinking about that cuz it's like, you know how they have all those signs where it's where it says You must be this tall to ride but what if it's like you must be not this tall to ride cuz for taco he legitimately I feel like if he was on a roller coaster or like Splash Mountain or something like you said the force of going down a steep incline in like one of those tiny little cars would just snap him in half cuz he's so I'm thinking his page would just hit break backwards. How would his legs fit in the tiny little rides. Can you imagine Taco Fall In a Small World afterall? Yeah, right or that I mean, I just need a photograph, Georgia. I need a photograph of him sitting in like a tiny little teacup spin ride or something. Just someone make that happen someone please make that happen. We could call it. It's a fall world after all. All right get on that some other news today the NHL plans to open training camps for July 10th. So things are happening all around me. That will be of course, but that's a different story except for baseball unsurprisingly. Maybe we'll have Rachel Luba back on soon to give us an update on those negotiations between the players and the league office. I mean Something's Gotta Give and next episode. We have Jessica Kleinschmidt on of NBC Sports formerly of MLB cut for and she and I talked about this at length because we're both losing our minds with all the back and forth. But I if we open up the door to the baseball conversation even like a crack you won't get me to stop so we just need to not talk about it today. Yeah, we're going to close that Pandora box then birth. And let's get onto it's more the passive. It's for it's in everybody's best interest. We can't hit them with like a great episode with an amazing interview. And then actually what ends up happening is it's 45 minutes of me screaming about how bad it was running itself. That's not fair to the listeners will move on. Did you see NASCAR is Banning Confederate flags? It's both like a big deal and also congratulations on doing a bare minimum of removing an extremely racist and traumatizing object from your business, but for them, it's like a big deal. Honestly, I will say that NASCAR NASCAR obviously, but I've been kind of impressed with their reaction to this whole Scandal they do only have one African-American driver at the Nascar Cup Series level bubble Wallace and they've allowed him to put black lives matter all over his car for his next race. I don't know they're I mean, I like their job Better than the NFL's which is made up of like seventy percent African-American players. So good job. NASCAR keep progressing. We like to see it. Yeah, it's I mean, it's like the whole point of this is Thursday. We're seeing progress. So protesting works. A lot of the stuff is working. We just have to not think that okay. So we fixed one tiny thing. Like that's it we're done like we just see that the progress work. So we have to keep doing it and I mean speaking of the NFL which first of all like hypocrisy their name is Rodger Goodell, Joe. Kennedy says that the Patriots should sign Colin Kaepernick. I know very little about him as like a quarterback as I'm sure everybody knows football is not my forte my Matt Forte he's retired. Yeah. I don't know how oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. He was a running back. Okay, I did it that was good. He was drafted by the Bears and 2008. Okay, I tried. But anyway, Colin Kaepernick birth. I've seen some NFL players on Twitter saying like Colin Kaepernick was an elite quarterback. Someone should sign him. What do you think? I mean, he brought the 49ers to a Superbowl at the top pretty freaked. Yeah. I mean at the time he was starting protesting and kind of beginning all this it was up in the air whether or not the Niners would cut him or keep him and was playing shape. He's in four or five years later. I mean, he hasn't taken the Reps. He had that training camp this offseason that all teams were invited to attend a month. So I was actually going to ask you about that because I've seen this a lot on social media this idea of like performative activism and like performative Ally ship kind of like going through the motions but not actually seeing anything about it, which is problematic and I feel like that work out that NFL teams were invited to for him is such a prime example of performative Ally ship because first of all, I don't know. A lot of teams showed up, right? Yeah, and they were some weird logistical things with like the venue being moved and it getting like pushed back or something. This is a few months ago already off. So I'm forgetting the details of it, but it was just really not like a fair shake for him giving him a chance to like Shop people up but not actually giving him a chance right? I mean, they came out recently and said he's like in the best shape of his life, I believe so, I mean, I would like to see a team sign him for sure the packs given their current situation under Center. Like I don't really know how much you have to lose at least to bring them in for the preseason, but we'll see how it plays out. I feel like unfortunately, it's just kind of go lose-lose situation because if a team brings him in they're going to get seen as like being performative and only doing it kind of to make themselves look good and smooth things over like no matter what the reason is part of that is dead. Either reason because of the story of like this whole situation with him since 2016, but the other thing is like if cap doesn't do well if he gets the chance to play then it's going to give us more Credence to that narrative that like, he wasn't even good to begin with or whatever. So it just sucks. It's a really unfair situation and it's he had another reason why I don't like the NFL and I mean, Rodger Goodell talk about this stuff. I was just kind of like, oh my god, dude, no one wants to hear from you. Yeah, and the fact that like his big video statement that he came out with the other day. Am I apologizing to players and admitting the league was wrong for how they handled the protests back in 2016, like he never even mentioned Kaepernick's name and come to find out that video off like he got stiff-armed into making that by the players because one of his own League employees a content creator for the NFL just went rogue and texted some players and was like dead. I'm a league employee and I'm not happy with their really watered-down statement. So I think you guys should make this video to kind of force their hand and demand they take a real stand on Thursday. And that's exactly what happened. That's like when you saw that I am George Floyd video with odel and Gilmour and all these star players it force cadel to be like, oh shit off. This looks really bad. I better come out with this another statement and that's exactly what happened. So it's like would he have otherwise? Yeah not to go back into the baseball Pandora's box. But I feel like we should just touch on this page second because I wrote about it for girl at the game.com yesterday the Red Sox put out like a statement in response to Torii Hunter's remarks last week about how the Red Sox were one of the only teams that he had a no-trade Clause 2 in his contracts because he experienced in during racism when he would play at Fenway like repeated racial abuse and home That though he did experience it at many ballparks. It was the worst in Boston and it was like quote so consistent and honestly, I mean, I don't know about you but I was actually pleasantly surprised at the Redbox responded the way that they did because like they literally said Torii Hunter's experience is real if you doubt him because you've never heard it yourself take it from us. It happens. Yeah, considering you've been really annoyed with how basically for the last three months throughout all of these player owner negotiations. The Red Sox are like meanwhile watch another clip of 800 David Ortiz home runs today, and I'm like dude read the room. So for that reason, like I'm pleasantly surprised and also just because you know, Boston has like some really bad races history and I I said the Red Sox admitting their racism exists. Boston is kind of like me saying that often times are beautiful blue sky has clouds in it. Uh, but it's still important that they set it. Yeah. You can't solve a problem. If you don't even admit that you have a problem. Yeah. Yep. It was a strong stand too and it wasn't just like a half-ass quick know I mean, they literally don't like take it from us. We know that the races should go down to Fenway Park. It's like oh damn. Okay, I think that went a long way or Torii Hunter and also Adam Jones he came out and also said the Red Sox saying that was huge. So it was like a bunch of years and also shout out to like the Eleven Hundred plus athletes and coaches and 300-plus front office Personnel across football basketball and MLB who signs that players Coalition thing I get Congress to pass the ending qualified immunity act just like really amazing to see all these athletes stepping up LeBron doing that voter thing to end like voter suppression and make sure people vote just so many amazing athlete activists out there doing stuff. It's great to see we just have to like keep going. I mean like last week we dedicated our episode to Brianna Taylor and the police report came out today and like dead. They honestly have the audacity to say that she had no injuries and that there was no forced entry when they broke into her home while she was sleeping and shot her eight times. Yeah, she was literally sleeping in bed. And also like the person they were looking for had already been arrested was in custody then it turns out one of the cops has been accused of sexual assault by multiple women and like nothing has come from that either and these guys still haven't been fired or suggested and the new Cycles moving on and like it can't move on like we have to fight for this woman. Absolutely this woman and her family deserve justice just it's inexcusable. There's so much wrong with the situation. But basically we need to email call sign petitions donate to important causes organ a link to setting a freaking rooftop. Yeah tweet about her just like took her memory alive and we're linking the same act blue racial Justice organization page in the podcast description. They split your donations between multiple very worthy causes that are working off. To dismantle systemic racism and just make this country a better place for everybody and get Justice for Brianna. Just like do everything you can don't let this stuff happen. I mean, this is Sade acceptable. It's so beyond unacceptable. So we are continuing with our initiative to pass the mic to black people and we have another awesome guests for you guys this week, I grew up playing this game called stratomatic which is like a baseball board game apparently now, they have an online version, but I played it the old-fashioned way with my dad on Saturday afternoons after synagogue. It's how I fell in love with baseball. You may have player cards. They're kind of like Advanced versions of baseball cards and my dad being like a collector of all things educational had literally 30 different debit cards, and one of the decks of cards was like different from all the rest. I remember asking my dad about it and he was like, well, this is the Negro League. So I learned about the Negro Leagues from playing strat-o-matic with my dad and he told me all these stories. Yep. Asked BoB Kendrick who is the president of the Negro Leagues Museum one of the most incredible people in the Baseball World. He's been the president for over a decade. He's been volunteering and working for the Negro Leagues Museum since the early nineties. He has the most incredible stories and I am fortunate enough to have become friends with him every time I've talked to him. I interviewed him when the Negro Leagues Museum was evangelized in the summer of 2018 and the racially-motivated vandalism and it's like they were just about to open this brand new very expensive part of the museum that they'd been working on for years and it got destroyed by vandalism. So like such a depressing moment and he was still so full of Hope and then I interviewed him during this pandemic just to know we recorded this interview of a while before George Floyd's murder. And so we do talk about racial issues, but this this was recorded before so we unfortunately did not get to speak with him about the black lives matter. Their movement and the protests just for clarification, but you know, we're like recording in the middle of a global pandemic and he is so full of Hope and he just improves my mood every time we talked and he just bring so much happiness to everybody around him and you will literally never meet a person who has a bad word to say about Bob. He is just one of those incredible people. So it was such a treat to have him on and off to just instead of talking about how incredible Bob is you can here for himself. Like we'll just play the interview. BoB Kendrick president of the Negro Leagues baseball Museum and Negro Leagues historian and baseball historian. I am so excited to have you on thank you so much for being a guest. It's an absolute pleasure to catch up with you again. Thanks so much for having me on I'm cannot express like to listeners and to you. I'm fangirling right now. This is such a such a treat to get to talk to you again, especially because you recently celebrated your nine year anniversary as president of the museum. Yes. Yes, you know time flies. It seems like it was just yesterday. I was sitting my boxes back down. I had left the museum in 2010 to take on another role with another not-for-profit organization and then thirteen months later. I am coming right back to the Negro Leagues baseball Museum or coming home to the Negro Leagues baseball Museum, and it seems like I just set my boxes down and literally hit the ground running. We've been running ever since but it's been a match. To call nine years as we've had, you know, a really significant turn around here at the Negro Leagues baseball Museum. And so I'm really proud of what we've been able to accomplish over those nine years. Now that being said we still have a lot of work to do we've just scratched the surface. But yeah, it's been nine amazing years for me as president. It's hard to believe it's been I ain't twenty-seven years of affiliation with this Museum. So I got involved with this place almost from its infancy going all the way back to 1963. So it's been a glorious ride for me working with an organization that I am just absolutely passionate about and never in my wildest dreams. You have your own what I thought that this would have turned into a career when I began volunteering with the museum way back in 1993, but it's done just that and it's been one of the most rewarding and gratifying things. I think I could have ever met. They're so lucky to have you I was actually going to say you began as a volunteer when you were working with the Kansas City Star. Correct? Yes. Yes. I was working for the Kansas City Star and it's promotion Department which function as its in-house advertising agency and I drew the assignment of promoting the Museum's first-ever traveling exhibition. It debuted in the storefront space right across street from home currently operates inside the Lincoln building and it was an exhibition called discover greatness, believe it or not that exhibited still traveling and touring the country right now. It is at the Yogi Berra Museum. I was playing to rave reviews before coronavirus shut them down as it has, you know, everything else in our country right now and and we've extended the state of our Discover greatness exhibit there at the office there a museum. And so I drew the assignment of promoting that first-ever traveling exhibition. We had some great success we drew over 10,000 people here to Historic 18th and Vine during the month of August to see that off. Sufficient and you have to understand that at that particular time. There was nothing else at historic 18th and Vine outside this building called the Lincoln Building 18th. And Vine Gabrielle, like a lot of urban areas in this country had died and it had been left abandoned and we decided that we would build a museum and what was once one of the most proudest prominent African-American communities in the country and when we made a decision people thought we were crazy the late great buckled meal for all of his infinite wisdom said this is where we will build this Museum and when we do so, we will help resurrect what was once a prominent community and we've done just that thirty years later and so but that's how it all started with me by nineteen. Ninety-eight. I had become the boss is first director of marketing and and really been involved with this project ever since and a professional capacity outside of that thirteen months that I was gone to run the national sport Centre wage. Disable and it was so funny because when I made the decision to leave we had a big going-away party, they gave me all the nice gifts and said all these nice things about me and Page thirteen months later here. I am coming back and I'm saying to myself. I wonder if they're going to ask me for my gifts back for this has been a joyous ride home institution very near and dear to my heart. There is no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partner. BetOnline sports are slowly making their way back with the UFC NASCAR and soccer leading the way that online has all the best odds and lines for the upcoming matches. This weekend need more about online has simulated NFL NBA and UFC happening every day live for you to check out and if you're looking for something else other than Sports about online has hundreds of Live casino games poker tournaments and all the best props in the business visit betonline.ag or use your job. Device and join now to receive your new welcome bonus and start playing today that online your online Sportsbook experts. You're so synonymous with them at this point that I cannot imagine them without you. I didn't even know until I was you know, preparing a catch up with you that you had ever left the museum. You went to the National Sports Center for the disabled in Kansas City. Yes. Yes, wonderful organization did provide a therapeutic Recreational Sports Programming for folks with disabilities and it was very heart-warming and very gratifying as well. But, you know to be honest, my heart was always here at the Negro Leagues baseball Museum. It's following in the footsteps of my friend My Mentor am confident the late great buckled meal. And so when I left it was under some circumstances when the museum was not doing well. They had brought in a new leader of the organization and to be frank. Can I just did not see eye-to-eye and I just felt like it was going to be better for me to give him the latitude to run the organization the way that he felt like he needed to run the organization without feeling like I was laughing. Over his shoulder, even though I did not believe in what his vision was and so it was just best for me to get out the way and so that's what I did. I made that cognizant decision to move on and unfortunately, it did not work out and the museum was really starting to struggle and so they called and asked if I would consider coming back and I made the decision to do so and I think a lot of people thought it would be an easy decision for me because they knew how much I loved this place but it may have been one of the most excruciating decision that I've ever had to make, you know, again given circumstances. I had missed getting the job by one vote way back in I guess 2008 or so and and a splitboard vote and I missed by one vote. And so which did you know, if you missed that one vote is not a even if you win it. It's not an overwhelming show of Confidence from from your board members. So it may have been a blessing in disguise that I didn't get it the first time around but I had left off. And so you start to Grapple with yourself. Obviously. There's the the ego side it says well, I wouldn't good enough first time around even though I thought I had done everything that you could possibly do to demonstrate thought I was ready for this next step. So they thought otherwise and so you kind of take solace in that and you you said, okay. Well your picture self up that stuff off move on and so I had a pretty much done that but again, you don't just Divorce Yourself from an organization that you've given so much to just because things may may not have worked out the way that you thought they should have worked out and so as things were really starting to take a turn for the worst here and it really was The Perfect Storm. I should say, you know, we had lost Buck O'Neil new transition that wasn't working and the economy was tanking at the same time. And so it created a synopsis that really kind of help kind of turn things the wrong way for this Museum. And so when I'm sitting there now trying to make the decision Whether or not to come back you, you know, you never make these decisions with your heart at least you're not supposed to and so I am trying my best to be as rational and trying to talk myself out of coming back because the thing that I think I was grappling with with fact that what happens if you can't fix it because you you know way we are in our society. We never remember the person who mess it up. We just remember the person who were there when it falls. So whatever little Legacy I may have had, you know working with Buck O'Neil for all those years were still in place. And so if you come back in this thing that we're going to point the finger at oh Bob and so I'm trying to talk myself out of it and the more I'm trying to be rational I swear bucco was standing on my shoulders and come on back home. So if I tell you I made the decision with anything other than my heart I would be lying and and I finally just said to myself you've got to go back. And you have to track even at the risk of failing you have to try, you know, you knew how much this means meant to Buck and how much he put into this and you've got to go back and try and see if you can do this and I won't back in his office April of 2011 and we've been rolling every sense. You know, it doesn't mean you don't run across and bumps in the road and not nature of the Beast of what we do but we really made some tremendous strides and keeping box Museum healthy whole and you know, I'm excited about the future of our great museum am so excited about it too. And you and Buck O'Neil. I mean, I can totally see that being the way that you ended up coming back to the museum because from our conversations and just the way that you talk about Buck O'Neil you had such a special relationship, but I don't think you've ever actually told me how your relationship with him really began because it it blossomed into something so spectacular. Sure, but that doesn't happen overnight know it doesn't you know, and I didn't meet Buck until I started volunteering with the museum back in nineteen. Ninety three, which is amazing. We had never in our Social Circles and Kenzie's not life, you know in in grand scheme of things and so you would think over time that we would have been in the same place at the same time, but I had not met him. I'd heard the name but I did not meet him until nineteen ninety three thousand. So as I got involved with the museum and that volunteer role serving on his board of directors and so forth. Uh, we started to grow a relationship. But then after I became the Museum's First Direct marketing a 1998 tax when it really took off I think he saw something in me. He saw a spark and he saw something in me and I remember when he gave me the heart back copy of his acclaimed book I was right on time. And that's the only thing that I have signed about who knew all these years of hanging out and traveling with people think that I'm dead. A lot of things that's autographed by but but I don't I never asked for anything because we were just doing what we do. You know, he was my guy we were hanging out and having a great time in in process of doing so it was never about the odds and those kinds of things is about an experience that I still hold near and dear to my heart. But the one thing that I do have signed by Buck O'Neil is the heart. Copy of his book. I was right on time and he signed it to the money man. And and that's perhaps one of my most precious possessions and at that point he and I started traveling all over the country, you know, he's gallivanting preaching the gospel of or release and the virtues of his Museum, you know to any and everybody will listen and I guess I feel like one of his disciples, you know, I'm there for the ride and and I'm soaking it up every step of the way and so it moves Beyond a business relationship. We played golf together we hung out together. He became really one of my best friends and as I mentioned in the in the lead in my job Confident and my mentor I learned a lot and as I tell people all the time when the smartest things I think I could have ever done was I kept my mouth closed and I listened because there was a lack of wisdom to be imparted if you wanted it hidden force it on you but he just threw out these little nuggets these little jewels and you just soak it in and I'll be honest Gabrielle. That's not a single day that goes by that. I don't think about the late great Buck O'Neil. I really do feel like he still there with a governing my steps when I have difficult decisions to make I try to draw inspiration from what would bucks a what would bug thing what would bug do and so he's become an incredible part of me, even for almost fourteen years after he's gone off and for me, it's all about making sure that I keep the memory and the legacy of Buck O'Neil alive the man who built this this wonderful edifice known as The Negro log, Museum and he did it because he wanted the other twenty-six hundred men and women to not be forgotten and that drives me every single day, you know, as it relates to the work we do here at the league baseball Museum, but you know, he play he played and he still plays an important role in my life. It's such a uniquely special relationship that you guys had and I think it's definitely fair to say he's not only kind of your guardian angel but he's the Museum's guardian angel I think so, you know, even in the midst of the disappointment wage that has hit us as a relate to this coronavirus and as you touched on a hundredth anniversary celebration and even in the midst of that, you know, there's still this level of optimism. I was off some folks the other day as I was doing some interviews and we were talking about how much of this year that we might be able to salvage will we be able to salvage any of it? And as I told some folks in December 3rd Will learn is Buck O'Neil is going to be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame all of us obviously still remember or were very disappointed by what happened the outcome that happened in 2006 when he missed my one dog from getting into the Hall of Fame and the effect and the impact that had on a nation of Baseball fans and certainly one of the most difficult times in my life both personally and professionally because we didn't know about the end of the year. He would be gone he passed away but there's this possibility that buck may get inducted into the Hall of Fame. Well, the the announcement would come in December at the winter meetings and that will give me another celebration to orchestrate in 2021 if it does indeed happen, and so he seemingly always brings joy out of the spam and at what is now one of the doctors times for us because so much was riding on this centennial celebration. There is a light possibly at the end of the tunnel for us and it seems Thursday. Always happen that way and I tell people all the time. I don't know if you believe in divine intervention, but there's always something very Divine about Buckle Neil and his imprint and certainly the imprint he has had on this Museum. So it gives me calls to be optimistic and hopeful and and I think in this time that's what you clean to you need and and I think that is what lifts our Spirits here at the New Orleans Museum. Absolutely. And the first time we spoke on the phone we were talking about the vandalism that had happened the new Buck O'Neil Education and Research Center. And the thing that I came away from it was that amidst this awful setback you had just so much passion and perseverance and hope and that was so astounding to me because this was something that the museum had been working on for a very long time. Yeah and right before it was supposed to be ready this month. Full thing happened and yet you only had the most positive things to say. And and I think when you are a steward of this story, you just kind of understand and you embrace the fact that you can't wallow in self-pity because these athletes never did they never cried about the social injustice. I went out and did something about it. Now, I'll be honest when I walked into that building the first day and saw it one in the building. I was a disheartening as I've ever been in my life particularly after we found out that it was done deliberately cuz I tell people all the time. I had it been an accident and accidents do occur. We've had the same amount of damage but I wouldn't have felt the same way. Of course once you file. Yeah, once you found out that it was done deliberately and heinously am Alisha SLI it hurt you to your core. And as I tell people I was ready to wait white flag at that point. You are ready to give up on people when you know, you can't give up five people and what happens out of the darkness comes as a ray of light people started to literally no pun intended stepped to the plate and all of a sudden this Groundswell of support from people we knew and others who we didn't know started to come in and what does it do it renews your spirit and people yeah, and it reminded us of what bumper always say bad things people will do bad things good people will fix them and the good people started to step up and it lifts your spirit and now yep. You have even greater resolved because as I've said on many occasions, you don't want to hate us to have last lab and so now there's even greater resolved to get this project done and to go and make sure that bucks dream of having is Education and Research Center becomes a reality. And so yeah, but again, it was just amazing to see and we always know that there are more good people than there are bad people but every now and then you need to be reminded and so yeah, it it lifts your spirits and it renews your your energy level and that you're ready to go out and tackle the world and try to make these things happen. So yeah, it was a setback and we just kind of now I've dug in and we're moving forward again and I think same thing will happen with this coronavirus pandemic. It has derailed some of our plans but it hasn't totally killed our soldiers. And so we still believe and I think we'll be able to salvage this thing and we'll be able to turn it into something great and we'll be able to use this platform that we had to continue to do great things for this Museum and and and at the heart event is setting it up to operate in perpetuity. I think that's the thing that we wanted to see happen with the Centennial Celebration is that we finally raise the resources needed to make sure that the museum will operate for a long long time. And so I don't think that opportunity has been lost and so we'll just dig in and I'm hopefully it is this coronavirus situation will pass sooner than later, but we'll get back out there and get the ball rolling one more time. I mean if anything this is an opportunity wage kind of Market the museum in a different way because you have all these people who they might not be able to afford to travel to the museum but they're stuck at home right now with not a lot to do and you're spending all their time basically on the internet and yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. You are absolutely right and we are learning a lot of things. We've introduced a museum digitally now in ways in which I had never even really thought about because you always want people to come through your doors, of course, but these kinds of opportunities that I have with you today, and I've been doing a number of these interviews and we spent Jackie Robinson day pretty much all day talking about the museum and Jackie Robinson's connection to the Negro Leagues. And so I think more people now may be aware of the museum never before at a time when we're shut down people are looking for things and for me, it was important that we at least stay on top of mind for folks who were interested in, Georgia. The subject matter and this story, you know, that makes me so happy because I like a lifelong fan, but I do think like you said out of a dark time. There are so many possibilities and so many reasons to hold on to hope and that's exactly what this time can be for the Negro Leagues Museum because you have this chance to spread it around the world for parents to be like instead of letting your kids stare at Call of Duty or I don't know what I don't know video games. I've I've honestly never fucked up my life but to offer them the chance to like learn about an incredible piece of sports history. That's an unbelievable opportunity for families that might otherwise not have the time or resources to be able to familiarize themselves with what you guys are doing. Yeah, and it's given us a new business model to kind of now look at and so now we're starting to look more at digitizing some of our assets even the traveling exhibition log. And I think we're finding some avenues that could be revenue streams for the museum through that process. And so, you know, yeah, we've had a little time as a result of the shutdown to kind of think about other ways in which we can enhance the museum experience for folks. So I do think out of this shutdown, it has given us an opportunity to challenge ourselves to find new and creative and interesting ways to not only Market the museum and provide access to the museum, utilizing a digital platform. And so now we're starting to examine other possibilities even without traveling exhibitions and digitizing them and creating an experience where people who may not get a chance to see it in a forgiven sinner. You can still see it and experience and still generate some revenue for the museum in doing so and so yeah, there's already been something positive that has come out of this page. Coronavirus shut down even though as you well know I can't wait for this to be over and I want things to be back to normal and I want to be able to hang out with people here a museum and shake hands and high five and take pictures with people again. And you know, I miss that immensely but at least that while we're in there's down time. We're we're trying to be inventive and creative as we can and it's helped shape a new business model. I believe for the museum. There's going to be beneficial for us for years to come. Yes. Will you are a very Hands-On president. So it's not like, you know, you're just like I want to get back to work to sit behind my desk you're out there every day. You're you're not only the president your life the I don't want to say mascot cuz that's not that doesn't give you enough of the glory that you deserve for what you do, but you know, it's important to me and I've never been one that just says, okay. I'm going to sit behind job. The death and tell other people what to do. I just want to be out there in front as well. And I love I mean some of the most special days for me is when I'm in the exhibition in walking around the museum with people and not seeing their reaction to this story and telling the stories that I love to tell the stories that I learned first-hand from the great Buck O'Neil and Monte Irvin Minnie minoso. The Ernie Banks is of the world and sharing those stories. So I enjoy that immensely obviously the role itself takes on so many different levels and needs and so I don't get to do that even that much as I like to but I am very Hands-On and I do think people appreciate that the look on the eyes and a surprise on their and their eyes sometimes when people say well, you know, you you just walk around the museum with the president of the Negro Leagues baseball Museum and they're blown away because I don't really ever say a whole lot. I just thought running my mouth and and people start to kind of gather around and we yep, Talk to a storage and have a good time and then somebody will say or maybe at the very end of the experience. I will thank them and and then tell them who I am if they don't already know who I am and so I enjoy that as much as anything I could just never sit behind the desk and and bark out instructions for other people. I try to get out on the front line with my team and cuz of our team and there's no task that is too menial for me to do and and so, you know, I think that it's been part of the reason why we've had so much success with these last nine years. I can't imagine the Negro Leagues Museum without you, but that's also because I have been fortunate enough to hear stories from you firsthand, and it's actually very fortuitous. We are recording the day after Jackie Robinson day, and I'm sure that usually the museum does special things on April 15th every year. Yeah, we were we were planning to open a brand new exhibit both here as well as a new a traveling a new traveling exhibit called Barrier Breakers and the barrier breaker exhibit Gabrielle. Will Chronicle all of the players who broke their respective major league team color barriers going from Jackie Robinson in nineteen, forty-seven through the lake Palm see green in 9059 who of course was the last player with the Boston Red Sox. And of course, we lost Mister green last July sadly. And so this exhibit was going to Chronicle all of their own stories because as I tell people all the time, it didn't get any easier for pumps and green when he broke the color barrier with your Red Sox in 1959 than it did for Jackie Robinson in nineteen fifty-seven. These athletes all had the trials and tribulations as they were trying to navigate their path into the major leagues and yet as we so often times doing our society, we just only celebrate wage. First and and rightfully we celebrate Jackie Robinson for it being that pioneering first, but it doesn't diminish the others who also were the first with their respective major leagues. And so Larry Doby would break the color barrier in the American League just weeks after Jackie. He is almost an afterthought. But again, that's how we are now Society. Remember the first month. We rarely ever remember second and God knows if your number 16, you can pretty much forget it and so I mind set was if we don't tell these stories who will and so we we offer created is wonderful traveling exhibition called Barrier Breakers. It was going to debut in Los Angeles on April 15th. And of course the coronavirus situation has now delayed that that's what I'm excited about is there's certainly been a lot of interest in our traveling exhibitions, not only barrier breaker, but all of our traveling exhibitions, you know, as people been kind of piggybacking on this hundredth analog 3 and they were looking for ways to celebrate with us which we are absolutely delighted about in this case. It's absolutely the more the merrier we didn't want this celebration to be isolated in Kansas City. And so yeah, we're excited to give people an opportunity to see it both in a permanent capacity here at the Museum and then also have it hit the road one of the events that Dodge did get postponed because of the coronavirus was our annual Jazz and Jackie celebration and some folks may know Jackie Robinson, of course spent the fifteen forty-five season with the great Kansas City monarchs and it's something that we're extraordinarily proud of the fact that it was our great City and the Negro Leagues that gave America arguably his greatest hero Jackie Robinson. Well the year that he's been in Kansas City he fell in love with everything in Kansas city is famous for barbecue and Jazz and and so each year now wage. You kind of a celebration to help people understand his Kansas City Roots because I think when we talk about Jackie and the grand scheme of things is rare that we talked about his Negro Leagues career wage is always based on the first day that he stepped on the field as a member the Brooklyn Dodgers. Well, we don't think that you can exclude the year that he played here because had it knocked off the Negro League you don't sign in Jackie Robinson. And so we do that event called Jazz and Jackie to draw the parallel the connection of his can see ties and his log Jazz and of course New Orleans, will they claimed the Jazz, but we certainly believe that jazz got it sold in Kansas City. And so we always have an annual Jackie Robinson concert jazz concert and so we've postponed that and moved it to October 24th. And so we are hopeful that we'll still be able to do that some of the other things that we had planned off. Particularly our national day of Celebration with Major League Baseball, you know, June 27th was going to be what we call a national day of recognition for the Negro Leagues where all the 30 major league teams were going to where our Centennial Negro Leagues patch on the sleeve and we were in essence creating kind of a tip your cap to the Negro Leagues and it was going to be an unprecedented show of solidarity among players and fans and teams and and as you know, as a fan of this game, there's nothing more honorable than you can do in our sport than typical cat and to see the players and fans all together and essentially tipping their cap to the Negro Leagues. I think we're going to be a watershed moment for Negro Leagues history and for this Museum and so we don't know what that situation is going to be if and when we get baseball restart it or started in this case and whether or not we'll be able to do that or Thursday. But you know, we certainly hope we remain hopeful about that opportunity. We still right now planning our November 214 Centennial Gala here in Kansas City. So that is still being planned and we'll obviously have to see how officials deemed this virus situation and to make a determination but we still got a little bit of time as I relates to that but a lot of our spring summer events, we're going to even have to cancel or postpone them to some other time makes me so sad. Oh, this was such a big year for you guys. I mean you're super hopeful about it, but there is always like that twinge of sadness that these things are postponed and I've had friends that are postponing their weddings and people who have not been able to have proper funerals for a loved one. It's such a crazy time and I think you know some people who don't understand or didn't grow up loving Sports Don't Understand Job. So mixture of pain and kind of confusion about this time without Sports because for people who love them, you know, we kind of live our yearly calendars around Sports, you know, spring and fall are for baseball and fall winter spring is basketball football hockey and without them, you know, we all kind of feel adrift. No, it's not and I think that's probably the one of the biggest challenges, you know to be isolated at home. You don't even have sports to watch and so, you know anytime that I've taken and it's rare that I take time off you can really just sit there and you can watch whatever whatever season is was football basketball baseball. And of course this time of the year as baseball season rolls around this is our biggest tourist season time. Yeah. So as we move into May and June and July month that is the height of our tourist season built around the baseball season, and so yeah, it certainly creates a level of sadness and for us we were on such a wage Bindas Hai, you know when we had the hundredth anniversary commemoration on February 13th here in Kansas City. And of course February 13th 1920 was the day that route Foster southbound a Negro Leagues into existence. And so we go right back into the Paseo YMCA where that meeting took place and we've got the commissioner of Major League Baseball and Rob Manfred and Xavier James. Who is the Chief Operating Officer for the major league baseball players Association The Honorable Clinton Luke is the mayor of Kansas City Royals Legend Hall of Famer Frank White and who is now the Jackson County Executive. Is there Lieutenant Governor Mike Kehoe is with us the new Royals owner. John Sherman is all their all their life with me for this 100th anniversary commemoration. And and of course it was at that event that major league baseball and the Players Association announced a joint 1 million dollar contribution. To the museum, so we are now off and running. We got this new exhibit black baseball In Living Color that features the incredible works of great Chrysler on display here. Yeah. Yes. Yes. People are just flocking to the museum. Yeah, they flocking to the museum to see the exhibition all the excitement and energy and then when you know a month later, it comes to a screeching halt and so now it's about okay trying to ride this storm out and then see if we can get regenerate this incredible momentum that we had built. We couldn't have gotten off to a better start and as you've touched on this is such an important year for the museum because the Centennial Celebration was providing us a national platform unlike any that we've ever had it is perhaps outside of the grand opening the establishment of this month. I am in nineteen. Ninety the grand opening of the new facility in nineteen. Ninety. Seven the death of Buck O'Neil in 2006. This was the largest platform the museum that had and you know, you're trying to build your strategies and plans around executing a sensational centennial celebration and then getting that be the thing that was springboard your long-term Financial fundraising strategy. And so we off to a flying start and a month later. We got it all knocked down. But you know, we're going to pick ourselves back up and get ready to to roll as soon as we're able to get back out there and start this thing rolling again. I'm sure that eventually people will be so excited to have sports back that they will be there in droves and I I hope to be one of them but I have to ask what is it like when you have a kid come to the museum? They don't know anything about the new girl leagues because I'm sure you guys get tonnes of families but also school trips and summer camp trips and I'm sure a lot of its don't know about the name leagues because we're already very far removed from the existence of the active games of the Negro Leagues. Yeah. Now you're absolutely right and it's mind-blowing for the kids who come here because as you touched on they've been removed from these kind of struggles, they can't even fathom that our country was once separated by color. So segregation is something that absolutely blows them away. And as I tell people Most of our children summarize segregation quite simply that was dumb and they're right it was done. It was absolutely dumb but it's important that they understand that life hasn't always been as good as it is for some of our citizens in this country and that you could go to jail for life in the wrong section of a ballpark or drinking from the wrong water fountain or using the wrong restroom and quite frankly going to jail with some of the good things that happen. A lot of people lost their lives for breaking those simple societal standards. And so what we've attempted to do here with this amazing story of the Negro Leagues is kind of help simplify segregation by telling it Through The Eyes of these legendary baseball players, and so when they come here and they see that there was no plane. For these athletes to eat between St. Louis and Chicago or between St. Louis and Kansas City unless they could find a black owned establishment. It blows them away. But what we also demonstrate to them is they never allow that social adversity to kill their love of this game. So if I've got to sleep on the bus and if I've got to eat my peanut butter and crackers, I'm going to keep playing ball and that's the prevailing spirit that you feel here. This is not a woe is mine kind of story. These athletes never cried about the social injustice. They went out and did something about it. You won't let me play with you. I create my own and I think there's a dead rooted message there. And for our young folks who are being introduced to the story likely for the very first time just as many of the adults are being introduced to It For the First Time. A lot of people did not know a Negro Leagues existed. There's these life lessons that stem from this story that I think are still very prevalent today and off. Yes, they come in and they learn it for its Rich educational value but there's an inspirational value associated with this Museum and I think for the more majority of visitors. When you walk away from this experience, I think what the Negro Leagues teaches us real simple and it applies to our young people beautifully in this great country of ours off. If you dare to dream and you believe in yourself you can do or be anything you want to be. They dared took a baseball that was their dream. They dreamed to play baseball. They had no idea that they were making history. They didn't care about making history. They just wanted to play baseball. But again the pride the passion the Courage the determination the perseverance that they demonstrated in the face of adversity and as I share with me, I guess all the time at the conclusion about tour this story transcends race, it transcends age and it transcends gender. So What's not to love about this story? And I do think it can be in some ways life-changing life-altering because again, the more majority of the people that come here did not the story and they certainly didn't know the story to the magnitude in which it exists. And this is as triumphant inspirational story as you will ever encounter or as again, like I'd like to say it is the power of the human Spirit to persevere and Prevail and I think that's the thing. That's the most amazing about the Negro Leagues and the museum now is that they took things that were so negative, you know, exclusion and segregation and instead of being beaten down by them and and letting that kind of those forms of hatred win. They turned it into something so beautiful inclusive and that's not to gloss over of course the hardships that Negro Leagues players endured in terms of you know, they weren't making the kind of money like not everyone was making such a game. Page money and there were plenty of times where they experienced awful hate and terrible conditions. But Negro Leagues was the only inclusive League that allowed anyone who wanted to play they had women they were the only League that had any women and that's because Major League Baseball wouldn't have them and the All American Girls Professional Baseball League wouldn't have the women and they said, okay. Well, we'll we'll have anybody yeah. Yeah, they didn't care what color you were and they didn't care what gender you were and you're right. And and I think that's the thing that I find amazing about this story. Here's a league born out of segregation that would essentially become the driving force for social change in this country. And again as you just mention a league team out of exclusion would become perhaps this country's most inclusive entity, you know, it opened its doors to women both as players as well as Executives wage. And so they were head of society and to me that's a beautiful aspect of this overall story. They failed to succumb to track the others the way that they were being treated. I always say a person treatment of you speaks more about them than it does about you, you know, if someone treats you with hate and we see it all the time, you know with bullying online and the Resurgence or I mean, it's not like it never really went away. But the the rise in hate crimes and racism and anti-Semitism in this country today, these people are acting this way because of who they are not because of who you are and exactly as hard as it is to remember sometimes I mean that is that is the truth of it is just absolutely that and and again, you know, I hope that what the museum can do and continue to be is just wonderful tool of demonstrating why diversity and in clubs You are so important in our society. And so yeah, it's it's a special plate on a lot of levels and that's why I say you don't have to be a baseball fan too long for this exam. And of course, we certainly believe that if you're not a fan that's sacrilegious, but that's okay. You don't have you don't have to be a baseball fan. If you are a fan of American History, you're going to love this Museum. If you are a fan of the underdog overcoming trials and tribulations to go to go on to Greatness. You're going to love this Museum, but if you are a baseball fan to boot you are in hog heaven, it provides everything that a baseball fan can absolutely love but it's there for any and everybody and I think having met so many people in the museum. I've met a lot of people in who have expressed the fact that they're not sports fans or baseball fan at all. But as one lady told me I just spent three years. Hours in your Museum and I was absolutely blown away. Well that is one of the greatest compliments. I think we could ever get because that's how we tried to build this experience so that when you walk through this Museum you were going to learn not only about these legendary ball players, but you're going to learn about the history of this country simultaneously, that's exactly what it is because baseball is kind of a microcosm of this country and of like life in general that the lessons that you learned from both the history of baseball and from how to play the game of baseball and be in the game of baseball to be a supportive teammate to play the game honorably to be inclusive and fair. Those are lessons that take you Way Beyond the baseball diamond those are things that you know play into how you become a person and you learn a lot. I think that the the museum teaches you a lot of those things in the frame of this very epic story. Yeah, and I think that's why I thought Eight people leave here cheering a human Spirit. That's where I just wholeheartedly believe, you know again, what's not to love about the story? It is everything we pride ourselves about being American because it is about money. It's about passion. It's about perseverance. It's about refusing to accept the notion that you're unfit to do anything. So I'll show you absolutely we ask everybody. First of all, I want to ask you to just tell us quickly like one of your favorite Negro League stories because I'm sure a lot of people won't know the story that you tell because you have so many of them and then the second thing is your favorite sports memory is something we ask everybody who comes on the show because we know that everyone will end up having a different sports memory or a very least a different perspective on the same Sports memory. Yeah. Well and I'm going to start with my favorite sports memory cuz my favorite sports memory just happened last week and that was Henry Aaron wage. Breaking a Babe Ruth's record. I was nearly twelve years old when Henry and hit record home run number 715 in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium. I was a kid growing up in nearby Crawford Georgia, which is about eighty miles east of Atlanta and I told him this story when he hit record homeruns 7:15. I'm in my parents living room and bath. He's circling the bases in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium. I am literally circling the bases in my parents living room. So the old couch was first base the old TV was second base. He had another account that was third base and my mother's recliner was home plate and so as my childhood Idol, Henry Aaron was tension them all I was touching them all jumping for joy and nearly twelve years old. I would toss twelve in June of that year. And so that is I think my greatest sports memory Of all time, you know and because again even in my little town of Crawfordville, Georgia, there was a lot of separation and there were some angst because he was this black man in the Deep South about to break a record that nobody ever thought would be broken. And so even in the 1970s there was a lot of racial tension going on particularly in the South and so there was division even in my little Hometown and so this was an epic moment for me as a kid to witness because you know Hank Aaron is my all-time favorite baseball player. And this was before I even knew he had played in The Negro Leagues. I really learned that he played in New Orleans until I got involved with the Negro Leagues baseball Museum. And so and that was one of the most eye-opening things for me and it set the stage for me wanted to learn as much as I could about this Rich history. So that's my favorite sports memory. Oh, there's so many great stories that I like to tell and one of my favorites Satchel Paige stories of many Satchel Paige stories is a story that Buck O'Neil tow for me because a lot of people because Satchel Gabrielle was so outgoing and so gregarious and so charismatic that and they for men who didn't have a formal education. He was as wise-beyond-his-years and so Buck said there in Florida and Satchel says the night before he called buck nasty. He's an answer the home who was sacked his wife. The Houma is going to cook fish and grits for breakfast. Well to catch you we got to go catch the fish. So they hire a guy who had an old outboard motorboat that going to go on the Tamiami Trail and Satchel not only thought he was great at pitching the world. He thought he was the greatest Fisher and Hunter in the world and so yep. Everybody's fishing and Gabrielle. Everybody's caught a fish except for such and they're rats and satchels Satchel. We thought you were the greatest fisherman in the world. You came cheese, you don't and and box are satchels got a line in the water and the line has three hooks on it and he says wouldn't you know three fish with hit off at the same time after pulls out the line. He jumping around in the boat. I told you all I was the greatest fisherman in the world. I told you I'm the greatest of all time. And so he takes off one says she takes off another fish and he throws the other fish back into the water and Bucks. That's after what are you doing? He said Nancy, it's just me and Lahoma. We don't need the third fish and so bucks says as they're now started to head back to go back to the hotel and they're in the water. They get into an area dead. Where there's this cluster of black snakes? I mean, he said must have been hundreds of them as if they were mating or something and and they had a nose single repeating 22 rifle off a boat and but gets up and he's going to shoot this Nate and he says Satchel pushes the gun down. He says Nancy's don't shoot the snake if the snake is a truck for John hotel where they were staying then you shoot it. But we are The Intruders here. Don't shoot the snake and sat there was a lot deeper than a lot of people ever gave him credit for and and that's that story stuck with me, you know of all the great pitching stories that I tell because the stories around Satchel the man are not as prevalent and not one of my favorite Satchel Paige stories. I love that so much. Wow, and I knew that you would have the most unique stories. When I asked you these two questions. I was like, I'm going to get the best ones from Bob. No way. No one else is even like no future guess is going to top that. Wow. Thank you. Hi, I mean, this is welcome such a treat and I hope that we can do it again sometime and I hope that you're staying safe and that will be able to do all kinds of Centennial celebrations very soon and safely, of course because the world just needs more of this Museum and needs more of you know, I am really looking forward to it and we're going okay, we're going to be okay and I'm looking forward to seeing you here in Kansas City at this Museum and you know again, I want to encourage everybody to to stay safe. We'll get out of this thing. Hopefully sooner than later dead. Yes, thank you so much and Bob before we go just tell everybody where they can find you on social media and how they can virtually say connected and educated the museum. Well, you can find me on Twitter a 10lb. I'm pretty easy. That's the same username on Instagram, and then you can also visit the Negro Leagues website at ww.w. Thank you so much times a million and I will talk to you soon. All right, dear. Thank you. 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Local Hour: New Day, Same Dysfunction

"God's diehard batteries of the MVP of reliability the durability player of the year year after year are in the starting power hall of fame and the best part. Now, you can get them at advance auto parts yet diehard batteries are now at advance auto parts and you can score free testing and free installation with purchase of a diehard battery without an appointment put a winner under your hood adventure auto at advance auto parts and participating carquest locations most vehicles most locations I'm going to start in an unusual place because some of the people on this show. Right now have not seen what it is about to talk about, and most of you listening for sure did not see what I'm talking about but billy and Chris and I were roaring with laughter during the Marlins game because of something that happened and Stugotz you're going to be made so uncomfortable and the discomfort was so funny I suppose at some point we'll get to the he'd play. But so all of us Billy Chris and I are sitting there riveted by Marlins Game Chris what is director now they're still tied for first place my wife was. Singing all weekend. Hey Zoos, Aguilar Marlins, first baseman. For no good reason just because he was on the screen, you like singing his name. When you explain to me where they are in the standings right now beyond first place, what is their record according to your math? Well, they are. They're forty games in forty and a games in they've played their twenty four point three and sixteen point two, which is a lot better start than their nine six record would appear okay are going well, they lost two out of three of the braves but we're still in this Dan in the conversation. So billy was excited Scott's because they are still tied for first place but billy, do you want to try to explain? What it is, it happens. During the broadcast because it was a glorious and all three of us have the same reaction like you're sort of watching a game the way you watch baseball, which is you're watching it. There's a lot of time in between and then you check in like twenty five seconds of your like wait a minute is what I think happening here actually happening and it was happening there was there was a hijacking during the game of someone conversation. What would you say how would you describe the audience? It was it was odd. I would say this is. Guys Welcome. This is a new era of the show. Starting with Marlins. Kinda. Strange Energy. Okay. This is what happened. Okay yesterday major. League Baseball was celebrating one hundred year of Negro Leagues Right. So the Marlins were wearing an old Miami giants I think Miami giants uniform there. Other teams are wearing patches. It was like a big celebration, right? So during one of the innings, they had the president of the Negro Leagues, Baseball Museum on Bob Kendrick, and they were doing an interview with him now with baseball. On TV, it's finally you can do that because you see the action radio, you wouldn't be able to do it. If you're calling game right now normally these are interviews that you have with whoever it is and not much going on. You can kind of follow along with what's going on right. So they had on for an evening. Now, his answers although he was on printing seem to last three innings each. One The Sunday night broadcast. He was a bit of a year, Mer yes. He and they were teasing. So we will have this guy on they were teasing the get to him the head of the media. Now that's fine. Except would happen was. Don Mattingly Donny baseball was in a dugout arguing balls and strikes, and you are you balls and strikes in baseball, and now there's this whole situation with social distancing in you have to wear a mask. So He's screaming from the DUGOUT. He's covering his mask he's running out on the field the umpires there he's covering his face and they're going back and forth and you have no idea what's going on whatsoever because they ask the President Bob Kendrick a question and he's talking about you know he's answer the question but he's going off for like two or three minutes, and this whole fight is going on Nolan's explaining what's going on. No point said Hey bob, just wait a second. Let's take a look at what's going on here. Don Mattingly just got ejected. So you don't really know that Don Mattingley was objected either you assume you is because he laughed. And then they showed them walking in in the Dugout, the show mock-up the tunnel have no idea what's going on you just all of a sudden don mattingly loses his mind he's screaming Madonna he walks out to the field. He stays good free feet away which by the way too close donny baseball it's supposed to be six feet away from the umpire. Then he covers his face and they make sure to let you know he pulled it out because. It wasn't one of those like regular facemask was one of those light buff type things. So he pulled it out so you could see no. So I guess he didn't want his sound the sound of his voice being inhibited by the masters was a good Mass Dan I. Don't know if you know how good masks works you do the Kennel test you go up to a candle with your mass you try to block the candle on we can't allow. Again, just acquired. So here's what happened. John didn't miss you at all I. Wish You'd been gone. You clearly have a week of occurred in your system that you just need to spend all over the place Canada's. This is the part that's funny about what happened there. He's sitting there as the head of the Negro Leagues Museum and he is talking. For a long time as you're watching on your screen and this isn't happening on the braves broadcast on the brave as you hear all of his F- bombs, you could hear him just launching. After after f-bomb but on the marlins broadcast, what you see and hear is simply this hijacker from the Negro Leagues, talking in a on a day. That's already awkward. Right because you want to celebrate this before you're celebrating is, Hey, remember how white people black people play baseball like it's just an awkward celebration beginning and what happened is the marlins broadcasters while manningly is being injected or simply afraid to interrupt this way I'm. Telling you all quite birth like from the ground. An extraterrestrial and. Not Going to interrupt what is he was saying so it's Screaming fire all without audio. It's all just. A moment to be like. The wrong game could. Feel and you're not hearing the. But, today go three days without. Area Commercial. What? The best part was that it lasted even. Bat after the ejection. So it was like two at bats. Later, the guys answered finally ended and they were like by the way three at bats ago Don Mattingly got ojected sorry that we didn't get to tell you before now that was the longest answer in the history of television. What happened in the brace broadcast? It seems like someone else lever the wheel I take. Hijacking air on the brave. opposite. Diabate, so it's GonNa be manager of the year. And he had such a point I am done with umpires calling balls and strikes. There's so many goes both ways old teams ended up getting screwed but there are so many pitches I'm telling you umpires you're struggling after this quarantine I'm you I believe it's been the same crew, the last three series, which is odd that the same cruise been falling team around. So he is so fed up with these UMPIRES. This point because they have been a little rusty there have been some bad 'cause. We see every game is bad calls by he's at a breaking point with these guys like he is not having any of them more billions gotta be donny baseball Dave, Ross Rossi right or the governor's. Live. With that JOE bad. Guys were already at the quarter pole. All right. Like we're here like I just wanted to say quarter bowl. Nothing else we're here quarter polling ejected on the entire thought I would have paid a great deal of money honest guy. I would have paid a lot of money to just have a camera on Hollandsworth during all look back to and both just a one zero imagined that's being in this position because they were in it and we made a choice and I would have loved to heard but producers in their ears saying, Hey, guys can't interrupt or you guys need interrupt and making their own decision about eight interrupting this. Offer innings. For, the State Literally Hundred Years Hundred Years we've been waiting for this I am not interrupting this with everything that's happening in America. Negro Leagues Museum and Celebrates Negro You guys remember Jesse James. Motorcycle custom guy that was like a thing like fifteen years ago. Remember him. Now. Well. Then, this isn't GonNa go. Well, I sent you guys in the group Jack Because I was seeing it this morning. You mentioned Joe matted Jesse James like this cool like motorcycle custom guy and he was like had all the Tad's and he had like the beard all stuff it was like Joe Madden. Now essentially, guys are the things that you could see him but you guys who he is. So this probably isn't going to. Follow. Fly started by you billy can you go back on Vacation Pasta? Who Do you need to work today? Feel like everything would be going better if you are in logic, what you we have no idea what you're talking about throw out for us to Rian. I'll we're doing the radio? It's a visual thing which again doesn't isn't great on a podcast if you're at home right now just Google Jesse James. And tell me that guy does guys quick battling. told me that doesn't like Joe Matt and now. Check out right now by computers a little increase. Come in and you just you start like we did a good week of shows less. We can you come in here and you? Now I. Disagree in Billy's bringing the energy I, like what he's doing so far buildings right there. Now back to the Marlins real fast back to Francisco survey I figured something about him this weekend every baseball team needs a guy who respects the game on their roster were Francisco survey, respects the game. He does this thing his first at Bat. Billy of you noticed this first bat every game he he he tips his cap, his helmet to the pitcher before his first at Bat. That's a guy that respects the game and that that I just I saw him do that and I'm like I knew I like this Cisco's belly every June these Brian Mackenzie. You're right. You get a little too far. Sorry somewhere between a survelliance McCann. So Valley Nice. Guy He he. He's basically saying to the pitcher. I bid you good battle like. What he's doing. Our. Karate kid before the Russo Johnny Lard swear off back to each other right at a respect. He knows them watch that we'll be back Larussa is giving everyone the proper bath the Cooper Guy Gauge. Respect the resort all they barely bowed that it's very disrespectful and guess it all matters where he's batting though right because like if he's batting six and it's like the second inning, not the same thing Mike kind of get it that it has you the road team and you're you're at the top of the first inning that you like. A well, let's go to battle. It's the extra step because I think that the respectful thing in baseball that's the common thing is when you step into the batter's box, you tap the catcher on his kneepads with your bat and you do the same thing with the empire. It's like the way to show respect. So the tip of the cap is just the next level of wow. This is really really right. You gotTa Bet Savelli leadoff if you want the proper amount of respect doing it in the second inning, I imagine exasperating that respect while the from the Negro Leagues Museum was talking sudden. Right off the top of the game. When you need your bank capital, one is right in the palm of your hand. So you can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money from your phone with top rated APP and when you're done banking, put back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. What's in your wallet capital one in a member FDIC. It's a new season. And Sport clips, haircut all of our stylists cleaned certified and guys smart. So come in and get yourself back in the game with our legendary MVP experience it's a man. Keisha. With our hot steam towel relaxing shampoo in a winning cut check in online and walk out with Confidence Oh sport clips. It's good to be a guy. I, feel like I want to object to what? Chris Cody said in the first segment and almost everything billy said in the I. mean. Jesse James. I'm telling you just like Joe Matt and now you see what used to look like it would be shocking to you. All right I'm telling you. Listen to me billy. This is how this is what you've done to the show here on your return -cation because you're sitting here, telling everybody to look at how much Jesse James looks like Joe men, but all I see in this chat. Okay and this is why I don't know what you're talking about is a link has James Monkey breaks the neighbor's house erection aroused horny. That's what showed up in the chat. What is in the? Disney will fire if I if I call it what is that? I don't write the headlines, the stories that I didn't read the story. Joe Matt looks just just like Joe Man and Look I. Love Lovie. I love how billy stumbled upon this headline and just took away what he looked like as opposed to the very interesting sounding. That the story actually is Billy I. Need You Click on this actual story? This is what did the first segment. What did you ask to radio audience something that was visual and the story the headline on tmz is Jesse James Monkey breaks at the neighbor's house erection aroused horny i. don't have any idea what's in that story after the break get well, here's a, here's a problem, right? So I see Jesse James I'm like man is that show Matt on TMC was Jesse James. Former. Sex Symbol I guess it can be a former sex symbol. You're always a sex. anyways. So I'm looking at it and it says here, that's my monkey in your house and yes, he's very happy to see you. There's nothing in there about the link the you were saying there's nothing. So I didn't see the link when I spent this I just want you guys to see what Jesse James Likes today. That's all. Is Little Monkey Toby Toby James Yeah. He did he looks like Joe Matt You're right at toby that loose went to a neighbor's status we did and get excited in the way you're suggesting he gets excited monkey just excited in the form of us not number. God's Property Lineman all over the house excited to be anywhere but with Jessie, J's at the bare. So. I want to get back to what it is that Chris was saying there because I think it was just a throwaway line where he says every team needs one guy who's super respects the game I don't know that that is true. That he was just saying that because he wanted to do a riff about Savelli tipping is. The pitcher I'm I've been only screaming on the air for decades says it. You don't have to respect the game and it's not blasphemous to just enjoy the game as opposed to respecting again. Dan It's about balance like every thing in life it's about balance. You want the fun guys who respect the don't respect the game, but you need a see that's why the key is being a backup catcher. You need a backup catcher who respects the game everybody else can do whatever the hell they want it. You need a backup catcher who respects the game who just ranged you in every once in a while when you need it, you tips the capture, the other team, the other team members, ex you I'm just telling you one guy backup Catcher, respect the game would you spend the league interning the misdemeanor? Hold on a second I need to stop second because people want a whole bunch of karate kid references. They can go to bill simmons in the ringer. Is that what you're doing today you're just gonNA. We've seen for. because. It's about referencing movies that are thirty and forty years old. Billy have you seen Rati? Jaden Smith. Great. Jesus Christ. Please get closer to the microphone for those of you who do not know we have all manner of audio difficulties in his first segments to God's is speaking into a microphone that we have told him for one hour does not work, and now he's walking around his room with microphone. When he needs. Into Zuma microphone we're sorry that is sound as bad as it does we're not doing this on purpose although it's perfectly symbolic as espn goes in another direction on ESPN radio we go from ten to noon and debut what it is we're doing here today nobody's audio is working in if you wonder why you're not hearing Mike it's because Mike is just he's done he's door deep down below the clevelander. He's like in wires. He's like in a computer right now he's like he's like scuba diving in a computer right now trying to. Explain to the audience here. Let me let them look behind the scenes here. Real quick on what it is that we were doing before. We got here and Chris. Totally, right. Mike Ryan. 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A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum (Rebroadcast)

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21:43 min | 5 months ago

A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum (Rebroadcast)

"The Today we're replaying one of our favorite episodes of the lead, which originally aired back in February. It's basically tour of the Negro Leagues Museum in Kansas City. Athletics. Nate Taylor was our eyes and ears, and he joined us to relate stories about Jackie Robinson the Rockstar status, many Negro League players and some of the women who made an impact on and off the field. Here's the episode. You're from Kansas City. Tell us a little bit about you and your background in KC. Yes. I'm born and raised here in Kansas City for me. my connection to the Negro Leagues. Satchel page the wonderful legendary pitcher who's in the hall of fame. I actually went to his elementary school that was named after him in Kansas City. Our Mascot was named the monarchs after the Kansas City Monarchs, the famous nearly team at central taste, pissed on for a good portion of his career, so that was sort of my introduction and mate, what what was it like growing up black and a baseball fan in Kansas City? I was taught as a Kansas City born and raised kid. That like you know? Hey, there was this great world series in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five between the royals and the Saint Louis Cardinals. And obviously we hate Lewis because like they're on the other side of the state, and they think they're barbecue was just as good as our barbecue, but hey like the royals were terrible, the nineties I can't stress that enough. They were awful, but I did watch baseball. For the All Star game for the Homerun Derby We the as a family go out to the Ballpark, and you know you mentioned that you went to an elementary school named after Satchel page. Were you aware of Kansas City's history? When it comes to black baseball, I'm in a unique setting where? The Negro Leagues started in Kansas City one hundred years ago. I was fortunate enough that black history month in my school was a little bit different where we got talk. I think tablet more than the average kid. I learned about the Negro Leagues and its impact, and because museum is a Kansas City. It was a easy field true for a lot of kids, my age, so you took this private tour of the museum led by Bob. Kendrick museums president. Described Bob for us. He's a character. Well he is someone who I've written about as being the most authoritative order of the Negro Leagues, and he does with a flair, and and of course like a kid growing up as I did and small town Georgia. You know whoever you were. I was always Henry Aaron on WanNa play grounds, and you know never never struck out. Never got that important that you know on that three to Pittsburgh with the game on I. I never struck out, and he has a great cadence to him. He throws in joker to that is still fact base that surprises, many people who take a tour with him, and so you can ask him just about any question in relation to the Negro Leagues and you mentioned that the Negro Leagues started in Kansas City and that's why the museum is there. Can you tell us a little about the beginning of the League? The Negro National League began in nineteen. Twenty when it was clear that the major leagues at the time didn't want integration the country itself really didn't want integration you're. At all. I think segregation. What about this business that a lot of people say about being created equal. But your feelings about that. They are. So. These are all black teas in a time that there had to be all black because they were forced. To sort of create their only, and also to understand too that you know. These guys had the play in a manner that was so different than the major leagues they had to do it whether you call the showboating whether you call with charisma or swagger. They had to play the game in a certain style that was so drastically different from the major leagues that in invited people to come watch them. They still second. Third and if you weren't smart, they were stealing home and guys. That was the style of play. A NEAT, the museum was founded by Buck O'Neil, who played and managed in the Negro Leagues and later became the first African American coach in Major League Baseball. How did he get the museum off the ground? Buckle Neal was trying to go around to a lot of his friends and say hey. We're all getting older We're all not gonNA. Be here much longer. Shouldn't we create something that honors what we did for the country and what we did for baseball. We we started the. Museum in Nineteen Ninety so actually celebrating out thirtieth anniversary as an institution, we started the museum. Yes so it opened as a one room. Closet Basically Office Building with artifacts and at that time there were a group of local Negro Leaguers Nad by late great buckle Neil, who literally took turns paying the monthly rent to keep little office over so that's how we got started. So from that respect, we are as grassroots organization as you will ever encounter book O.`Neil, health bringing into popularity with Kim burn documentaries. That were Put on PBS. For Years Andrew Rube Foster and other black stars had organized dozens of barnstorming teams in the hope that they might one day play in the major leagues. Buck O'Neil had the personality sort of share with people any store you wanted about a legendary baseball player you may have read. About are seen on baseball car. And all that information was then transferred over Bob Kendrick before he died, and it's basically Bob Kendricks responsibility and onus to make sure that these baseball players legacy, and the overall importance and development of Lee is carried out for generations. We'll say let's let's talk about. The tour may be be our eyes and ears when you first entered the museum. What do you see the way the museum is structured is that it's built as? As. If you're walking into a small ballpark and so in order to purchase your way into the museum, it's almost as if you're buying a ticket. And then there are turnstiles old ones. I should mention large green turnstiles that you have to use to incher the museum so essentially you just walk into an old ballpark. You come through the turnstiles. The first thing you see is this map and is board that highlights the number of teams that were part of the Negro Leagues and the map gives you an indication of where those cities were clustered, and as you can well imagine they. They were primarily east of the Mississippi. River and then you're sort of in that small concourse. Right behind home plate the way Bob describes it is chicken wire that separating you from the field in this chickenwire is sort of symbolic, because it was the barrier that was used to separate why fans and black fans from Major League Baseball Games now. This is the centerpiece it is called the field of lettuce and a field of legends as you can see is a mock baseball diamond that houses ten of twelve life-size bronze sculptures of Negro League great, and so as you're starting to learn. Learn that hey. The Negro Leagues was born out of segregation before integration began. You are now being separated in a similar fashion, and the museum is built in a way that you have to learn every step of the Negro Leagues from when it began in the nineteen twenties all the way up until Jackie Robinson all the way through the League's sort of dying in the nineteen sixties. You have to learn all that information before you ever step on that field with all those bronze statues, nate, the Negro Leagues had to separate themselves from the major leagues in order to get noticed and. Innovative and one of the things that you you learnt. Is that the Negro Leagues Invented Night Baseball. They were playing night games in the Negro Leagues five years before they ever play the game in the major leagues now our history book is going to tell us that the first professional baseball game nine, thousand, nine, hundred five Crossley feel Cincinnati, reds versus the Philadelphia Phillies while the history book is wrong the first professional baseball. Baseball game. Nine, thousand, nine, hundred thirty, and it featured are very young Kansas City monarchs, so there's these power generators that costs a lot of money, and they would sprinkle them throughout the Ballpark Jail Wilkinson, who owned the monarchs literally mortgage everything. He had to pioneer night. Baseball portable light generated towers, so not only. Could they play night game here? They can note them up on the truck and play a game virtually anywhere. Those things were heavy, and those things didn't project as much light as you would think, but enough that you have a spectacle that baseball had never seen before, and we'll nate. The location of the museum is really interesting to. It's in this really historic neighborhood in Kansas City eighteenth and vine. Eighteenth and vine in his heyday was a cultural crossroads where jazz baseball intersected, and it was jumping. Anybody who was anybody way to historic eighteenth five, and there's a part of the museum that has basically a replica of the hotel lobby bar where these very prominent black entertainers would hang out and drink. The street hotel was the black own hotel. Right here on the corner of. And let me tell you. It wasn't a travesty to have to stay at the street hotel because of your black and visited Kansas City. This is where you stayed that house. Every prominent black person you can think of in the nineteen thirties forties and fifties, and you could walk in the sitting room of the streak on any given day you might see sitting in one of these shares former heavyweight boxing champion Joel Lewis. With. handed. or at that time, the fastest man in the World Jesse Owens whether you are an actor whether you were a comedian whether you were a musician, you wanted to be a ballplayer because you knew what those guys could do was pretty electric on the field. Well, there's this wonderful photo of Lena Horne at the legendary Lena, Horne in a fur coat and kitten heels on the mound, throwing out the first pitch at an all star game surrounded by Negro Leagues Players. It is the equivalent of beyond. Say hanging out with the NBA all starting jozy wherever you ask successful black baseball, you had thriving black economies, and so businesses like the street hotel were essentially emerging to meet need. Negro Leagues Baseball brought them built and clientele that let those businesses to the economic heights. It wasn't out of the ordinary for these athletes to go into a town. Fill up the ballpark yet. Not Be able to get a meal from the same fans who had cheered them or not have a place to stay, and so you know. The barbershop needed the ball players just as much of the ball. Players view the barbershop. But one of the more fortunate things is once Jackie. Robinson breaks the moby color barrier. You start to see that some of the black businesses in the cities such as Chicago Kansas City Saint Louis new. York, PHILADELPHIA A lot of those businesses started to fracture and a lot of ways and to a great extent. Black Economy never recovered from losing the Negro Leagues. So what was good morally what was good, socially was devastating economically but it was good for the soul of our country, and it moved us in ways socially that we never ever dreamed possible. When you make your bed in the morning it starts a chain of daily successes I mean what feels better than making your bed every morning and kicking the day off right? What about the sheets that go on it Brooklyn, and his home to the Internet's favorite sheets, and for me it brought new life to my sleeping space now I can't wait to hop into bed every night. 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Everyone remembers forty two obviously. Major League Baseball has retired the number on every Jersey except for one day when Jackie Robinson Day in the major leagues, but one of the things that Bob has to explain to anyone who will listen is that no Jackie Robinson at the time in nineteen, forty five was not the greatest Negro Leagues Baseball Player. There were other Negro. League players who could make a legitimate argument for better baseball players than Jackie Robinson, but this wasn't just about talent. You had to have someone who had the intestinal fortitude to deal with the adverse social conditions that they would be faced with as pioneer breaking the color barrier and Jackie had A. He wasn't a guy that was going to go out and party. It was gonNA make an embarrassment of himself. Once he got to the major leagues instead he understood the entire weight, the gravity that was placed upon him by saying. Hey, you represent not just yourself not just your family, but you. Present a whole race of people in your own country. Yeah, you had to have the entire package because I can't fail. I cannot fail I. Guy Failed. There is no second guy and so that was the enormous weight that Robinson was carrying on his back when he took that challenge becoming baseball's chosen one. And another important player you learn about during the tour. Is Hank Aaron a player? That Bob just talked so lovingly about yeah, his all time, favorite player. Yeah, this is my favorite picture in the entire exhibition because I'm a huge. Fan He is my all time, favorite baseball player, and my childhood idol as a kid growing up in Crawford Veal Georgia That's who I wanted to be in. It matters to Bob Kendrick, because he grew up in Georgia, and of course, when Hank Aaron broke. He majorly Basil Record for the most home runs. He did it as an Atlanta brave so bob griese disgrace story about how he was inactive, what occurred on the field in his own living room when he record homerun seven fifteen, he's circling base in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and I'm circling the bases in my mother's living room in Crossville, Georgia, and as he was touching them all our testing all, and so he holds a special place in my heart and eight. One of my favorite things about the museum is. It does justice to. The role of black women in the Negro Leagues. Know if you all were where there were three women who played professionally in the nearly. Tony, Stone Connie Morgan and Mamie, peanut Johnson, pioneers women who competed with and against the men in the one thousand, nine, hundred fifty Tony Stone, took the roster place of Henry Aaron when she joined the Indianapolis clowns, so Hank Aaron goes onto the major leagues. The following year comes Tony Stone someone who had played barnstorm as a woman baseball player for many years and finally. Finally, the opportunity to be sort of a crowd pleaser and a really talented baseball player who got a chance to play in the Negro Leagues and is not just the women who played the game as well in the it was a very power nearing league. They also have female leaders executives on in the Negro Leagues Way Ahead of Major, League baseball most notably EPA Manley. F Amanda and a husband Abe Own Newark. Eagles, but it was Mrs Manley. Who ran the day-to-day Operations of that baseball? Team. Considered Bob the first woman general manager in professional baseball history. She own and she knew the business of baseball as well as in. The only thing that the nearly cared about is can you play or do you know the business of baseball? If you know one of those two things, and if you're pretty good at it, they included you in a way that few other businesses were allowing that occur in the nineteen forties and fifties. What is your lasting impression of this museum and the legacy of the Negro? Leagues it's what it does to children, honestly and I'm saying that because of what I observed at the tour, you know one of the interesting things about children is that they don't know the racism, the prejudice the segregation. Thankfully, they can't even fathom an America that was divided by color. uh-huh segregation summarize through the eyes of a child is done so very simply. That was dumb and the right. It wants dump. But it was also the way this country was, and it's very important that we allow children to look back in time. If they are to appreciate how far we've come when Bob Kendrick gives a tour. You know he's not shy about saying. Hey, there were white baseball players who spit on Jackie Robinson when he was slide into second base, and that's just a a a small detail. Detail of what he faced throughout the course of his rookie season, so they're blown away when they come in and learn you go jail. Sitting in wrong section of Ballpark are drinking from the wrong water fountain are using the wrong restroom. Lot of people as you well know lost their lives for breaking no simple societal standards, but the other thing that you have to admire his. They never allow this to kill the love of the game baseball, so if I've got to sleep on the bus and eat my peanut, butter and crackers. I'M GONNA. Keep playing ball and really that's the prevailing spirit that you feel here at the Negro Leagues Museum. And, so you see these kids have fun. When they get on that field. After learning all that history, they WANNA play baseball. You will see mimicking. Hey, here's how I'm going to swing the bat and I'm going to run the first base and I'm GONNA. Get this head off such pave and again. We hope that we can be part of that equation that gets kids excited. Excited about playing our sport and but it's important that they be able to come here and see themselves when they walk through this museum nicely, people look just like them so to see how it transforms children in a way that you can see them. See themselves in these nearly ballplayers win. These men weren't able to get the same opportunities that we now have as Americans. And while America was trying to prevent them from sharing the joys of her so-called national pastime. The American spirit that allow them to persevere and prevail, and I think that's what makes this story so triumphant and so compelling and so. While nate, thank you so much for joining us for giving us your perspective, and for being our eyes and ears into the Negro. Leagues Museum. 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A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum

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00:00 sec | 9 months ago

A Trip to the Negro Leagues Museum

"The earlier this month it was the hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues and at the Centennial Celebration in Kansas City. Major League Baseball the MLB Players Association made a million dollar donation to the Negro Leagues. Baseball Museum come behalf of the players. the MLB Major League baseball have pledged additional million dollars to the project here in Kansas City. So as part of our black history month coverage here at the lead we decided to send the athletics Taylor a Kansas City native to check out the museum today. Nate takes us back in time to hear why Jackie Robinson was the one selected to cross the MLB color line. How Negro Leagues players were like rockstars in their communities? And the stories of some incredible pioneers there were actual women who played in the Negro Leagues from wondering and the Athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm beat the Davidson. It's Friday February twenty eighth and this is the lead it felt like something was there is something of emotion. That's not good this. This isn't a story here it stays with you. You're from Kansas City. Tell us a little bit about you and your background in KC yes. I'm born and raised here in Kansas City for me. My connection to the Negro Leagues Do Satchel page the wonderful legendary pitcher. Who's in the hall of fame? I actually went to his elementary school. That was named after him in Kansas City. Our Mascot was named the monarchs after the Kansas City. Monarchs the famous nearly baseball team. The central taste pissed on for a good portion of his career. So that was sort of my introduction and mate. What was it like growing up black and a baseball fan in Kansas City? I was taught as a Kansas City born and raised kid. That like you know. Hey there was great world series in one thousand nine hundred five two in the royals and the Saint Louis Cardinals back to work. Obviously we hate Saint Louis. Because they're on the other side of the a barbecue is just as our barbecue. But hey like the royals were terrible. The Ninety S I. I can't stress that enough. They were got awful but I did watch baseball. You know for the All Star game for the home run Derby We would occasionally as a family. Go out to the BALLPARK. You know you mentioned that you went to an elementary school named after a Satchel page were you aware of Kansas. City's history when it comes to Black Baseball. I'm in a unique setting where the Negro Leagues started in Kansas City. One hundred years ago I was fortunate enough. That black history month in my school was a little bit different where we got taught. I think tablet more than the average kid I learned about the Negro Leagues and its impact and because museum is Akin City. It was a easy filter for a lot of kids my age. So nate you took this private tour of the museum led by Bob. Kendrick the museums president Described Bob for us. He's a character. Well he is someone who I've written about as being the most authoritative order of the Negro Leagues and he does with the flair and of course but like a kid growing up as I did in small town. Georgia whoever you were I was always Henry. Aaron on the playground never never struck out. Never got on that important. That is you know on that. Three two pits with the game on the law. I never struck out and he has a great cadence to him. He throws a joke or two. That is still fact base. That surprises many people who take tour with him and so you can ask him just about any question in relation to the Negro Leagues. And you mentioned that. The Negro Leagues started in Kansas City. And that's why the museum is there. Can you tell us a little about the beginning of the League? The Negro National League began in Nineteen Twenty when it was clear that the major leagues at the time didn't want integration the country itself really didn't want integration at all that would. I think Beijing. What about this business? That a lot of people say about being created equal. But your feelings about that. I don't think they are. These are all black teas. In a time that there had to be all black teams because they were forced to sort of create their only and also to understand too that you know these guys had the play in a manner that was so different than the major leagues. They had to do it. When you call the showboating whether you call charisma or swagger they had to play the game in a certain style that was so drastically different from the major leagues that invited people to come watch them still second still ter- and if you weren't smart. They were stealing home and guys. That was the style of play. The museum was founded by Buck. O'neil who played and managed in the Negro Leagues and later became the first African American manager in Major League Baseball. How did he get the museum? Off the ground buckle new was trying to go around to a lot of his friends and say hey we're all getting older We're all GonNa be here much longer. Shouldn't we create something that honors what we did for the country and what we did for baseball we started the Negro Leagues Museum in Nineteen Ninety? So wet actually celebrating out thirtieth anniversary as an as we started the museum. Yes it opened as a one room closet. Basically Office Building with just artifacts and at that time there were a group of local Negro Leaguers led by the late great buck. O'neil who literally took turns paying the monthly rent to keep little office. So that's how we got started. So from that respect we are as grass roots organization as you will ever encounter book. O.`Neil Health bringing into popularity with the. Ken Burns documentaries. That were put out on. Pbs for years. Andrew Rube Foster and other black stars had organized dozens of barnstorming teams in the hope that they might one day play in the major leagues buck. O'neil had the personality to sort of share with people any store you wanted about a legendary baseball player. You may have read about are seen on a baseball car. And all that information was then transferred over to Bob. Kendrick before he died. And it's basically Bob Kendricks responsibility and onus to make sure that these baseball players legacy and the overall importance and development of Lee is carried out for generations. We'll say let's let's talk about the tour. Nate B B. Our eyes and ears when you first entered the museum. What do you see the way? The museum is structured is that it's built as if you're walking into a small ball part and so in order to purchase your way into a museum. It's almost as if you're buying a ticket. And then there are turnstiles old ones. I should mention large green turnstiles that you have to use to enter the museum so essentially you just walk into an old ballpark. Come through the turnstiles. The first thing you see is this map and is board that highlights the number of teams that were part of the Negro Leagues. And the map gives you an indication of where those cities clustered and as you can well imagine. They were primarily east of the Mississippi River. And then you're sort of in that small concourse right behind home plate. The Way Bob describes it is. It's chicken wire that separating you from the field chickenwire is sort of symbolic because it was the barrier that was used to separate why fans and black fans from Major League Baseball Games. Now this is the centerpiece. It is called the field of lettuce and the field of lessons as you can see is a mock baseball diamond that houses. Ten of twelve life-size bronze sculptures of Negro League great. And so as you're starting to learn that the Negro Leagues was born out of segregation before integration began. You are now being separated in a similar fashion and the museum is built in a way that you have to learn every step of the Negro Leagues from when it began in the nineteen twenties all the way up until Jackie Robinson all the way through the Negro Leagues sort of dying in the nineteen sixties. You have to learn all that information before ever stepped on that field with all those bronze statues and nate. The Negro Leagues had to you know separate themselves from the major leagues in order to get noticed and they had to be innovative. And one of the things that you you learnt is that the Negro Leagues Invented Night Baseball. They were playing night games in the Negro Leagues. Five years before they ever play the not game in the major leagues. Now our history book is going to tell us that the first professional baseball game nine thousand nine hundred five Crossley feel Cincinnati reds versus the Philadelphia phillies while the history book is wrong. The first professional baseball game nine thousand nine hundred thirty and it featured our very own Kansas City monarchs. So there's these power generators that cost a lot of money and they would sprinkle them throughout the Ballpark Jail Wilkinson who owned the monarch literally mortgage everything. He had to pioneer night. Baseball Portable light generated towers. So not only could they play a night game here they can know them up on the trunk and play a game. Virtually anywhere Those things were heavy. And they'll these didn't project as much light as you would think but enough that you have a spectacle that baseball had never seen before and will make you know. The location of the museum is really interesting to it's in this really historic neighborhood. In Kansas City eighteenth and vine eighteenth and vine in his heyday was a cultural cross. Rose where jazz and baseball intersected and was jumping anybody who anybody made their way to historic eighteenth and vine and there's a part of the museum that has basically a replica of the hotel lobby bar where these very prominent black entertainers would hang out and drink. The street hotel was the black own hotel right here on the corner of and let me tell you. It wasn't a travesty to have to stay at the street hotel because you're black and visited Kansas City. This is where you stayed that house. Every prominent black person you can think of in the Nineteen Thirties forties and fifties. And you could walk in the sitting room of the street on any given day. You might see sitting in one of these shares former heavyweight boxing champion. Joe Louis Twitter wake left at that time. The fastest man in the world. Jesse Owens whether you're an actor whether you were a comedian. You were a musician. You wanted to be a ball player because you knew what those guys could do was pretty electric on the field innate. There's this wonderful photo of Lena. Horne the legendary Lena Horne in a fur coat and kitten heels on the mound throwing out the first pitch at an all star game surrounded by Negro Leagues Players. It is the equivalent of beyond say hanging out with the NBA. All starting jozy wherever you ask successful baseball you had thriving black economies and so businesses like the street hotel were essentially emerging to meet me. Negro Leagues Baseball brought them a built in and clientele that let those businesses to the economic heights. It wasn't out of the ordinary for these athletes to go into a town. Fill up the ballpark yet. Not Be able to get a meal from the same fans. Adjust CHEERED THEM OR NOT. Have a place to stay and so you know. The barbershop needed the ball players. Just as much as the ball players knew the barbershop but one of the more fortunate. Things is once Jackie Robinson breaks the moby color barrier. You start to see that some of the black businesses in these cities such as Chicago. Kansas City Saint Louis New York Philadelphia. A lot of those businesses started to fracture and a lot of ways and to a great extent. Black Economy never recovered from losing the Negro Leagues. So what was good morally? What was good. Socially was devastating economically But it was good for the soul of our country and it moved us in ways socially that we never ever dreamed possible as most of us have found out the hard way getting into debt is easy getting out his hard especially if your credit score isn't great thankfully now there's upstart dot com the revolutionary lending platform. That knows. You're more than just your credit score and offer smarter interest rates to help you pay off high interest credit card debt. 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You wish you knew like Kristen Bell Jonah Hill in Neil Patrick Harris in relives the most interesting in hilarious moments in their lives subscribe to life is short with Justin long on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever? You're listening now so we can't talk about the Negro Leagues or the Negro Leagues Museum. Without talking about Jackie Robinson and the museum does a really beautiful job of chronicling his transition from the Kansas City. Monarchs to the Brooklyn Dodgers and I think people think Jackie just walked out of nowhere and started playing for the Brooklyn dodgers but Israel rookie season was nineteen forty five. Yeah tell people all the time before he was number forty two. He was number five for the Kansas City. Monarchs and of course the year that he spent in Kansas City. He fell in love with everything that Kansas City is famous for Barbecue and jazz. Everyone Remembers Forty. Two obviously Major League Baseball as retired the number on every Jersey except for one day when Jackie Robinson Day in the major leagues. But one of the things that Bob has to explain to anyone who will listen is that no Jackie Robinson. At the time in one thousand forty five was not the greatest big rallies baseball player. There were other meagerly players who you can make a legitimate argument for bed of baseball players. Then Jackie Robinson that. This wasn't just about talent you had to have someone who had the intestinal fortitude to deal with the adverse social conditions that they would be faced with as higher near breaking the color barrier and Jackie had him on. He wasn't a guy that was going to go out and party. It was gonNA make an embarrassment of himself once he got to the major leagues instead. He understood the entire weight the gravity that was placed upon him by saying. Hey you represent not just yourself not just your family but you present a whole race of people in your own country. Yeah you had to have the entire package. Because I gue- came failed. I cannot fail I guy failed. There is no second guy and so that was the enormous weight that Robinson was carrying on his back when he took that challenge becoming baseball's chosen. What and another important player you learn about during the tour is Hank Aaron. A player that Bob just talk so lovingly about his all time favorite player. Yeah. This is my favorite picture in the entire exhibition. Because I'm a huge Henrio Fan. He is my all time favorite baseball player. And my childhood idol as a kid growing up in Crossville Georgia That's who I wanted to be in it matters to Bob Kendrick because he grew up in Georgia and of course when Hank Aaron Broke immeasurably baseball record for the most home runs. He did it as Atlanta Braves. So Bob Griese disgrace story about how he was enacting. What occurred on the field in his own living room. When he reckoned homerun some fifteen he's circling the bases in Atlanta Fulton County Stadium and I'm circling the bases in my mother's living room in Crossville Georgia and as he was touching them all hours testing them all and so he holds a special place in my heart and nate. One of my favorite things about the museum is it does justice to the role of black women in the Negro Leagues. Were where there were three women who played professionally in the Negro News Tony Stone. Connie Morgan and Mamie Peanut Johnson Pioneers women who competed with an against the men in the one thousand. Nine hundred fifty. Tony Stone took the roster place of Henry Aaron when she joined the Indianapolis clowns so hank Aaron goes onto the major leagues the following year. Comes Tony Stone? Someone who had played barnstorm as a woman baseball player for many years and finally got the opportunity to be sort of a crowd pleaser and a really talented baseball player. Who got a chance to play in the Negro Leagues and is not just a women who played the game as well in the it was a very power nearing league. They also have female leaders executives owners in the Negro Leagues Way Ahead of Major League Baseball. Most notably EPA Manley effort manly and a husband Abe own Newark Eagles. But it was Mrs Manley who ran the day to day operations. That baseball team consider BOB. The first woman general manager in professional baseball history. She own and she knew the business of baseball as well as any man. The only thing that the nearly cared about is can you play or do you know the business a baseball if you know one of those two things? If you're pretty good at it they included you in a way that few other businesses were allowing that to occur in the nineteen forties and fifties. What is your lasting impression of this museum and the legacy of the Negro Leagues? It's what it does to children honestly And I'm saying that because of what observed at the tour you know. One of the interesting things about children is that they don't know the racism the prejudice the segregation thankfully. They can't even fathom America. That was divided by color segregation. Summarized through the eyes of a child is done so very simply that was dumb and the right it was dumb but it was also the way that this country was and it's very important that we allow our children to look back in time. If they are to appreciate how far we've come when Bob Kendrick gives a tour you know. He's not shy about saying. Hey there were white baseball players. Who Spit on Jackie Robinson? When he was slide into second base and that sort of just a a small detail of what he faced throughout the course of his rookie season. So they're blown away when they come in and learn you go jail sitting in wrong. Section of Ballpark are drinking from the wrong water. Found using the wrong restroom. Lot of people as you well know lost their lives for breaking those simple societal standards. But the other thing that you have to admire is they never allow this to kill the love of the game of baseball. So if I've got to sleep on the bus and eat my peanut butter and crackers. I'M GONNA keep playing ball and really that's the prevailing spirit that you feel here at the Negro Leagues Museum and so you see these kids have fun when they get on that field after learning all that history they WANNA play baseball. You will see them mimicking. Hey here's how I'm going to swing the bat and I'm going to run the first base and I'm GonNa get this head off such paid a and again. We hope that we can be part of that equation. That gets kids excited about playing our sport and but it's important that they be able to come here and see themselves when they walk through this museum. They say people look just like them so to see how it transforms children in a way that you can see them see themselves in these nearly ballplayers when these men weren't able to get the same opportunities that we now have as Americans and while America was trying to prevent them from sharing and the joys of her so-called National Palestine it was the American spirit that allowed them to persevere and prevail and I think that's what makes this story so triumphant and so compelling and so are inspired while nate. Thank you so much for joining us for giving us your perspective and for being our eyes and ears into the Negro Leagues Museum. Yes thank you so much for having me and I hope. This encourages people to check out the museum for themselves. While Taylor clearly loves baseball he covers the Kansas City chiefs for the athletic and you can read his coverage of the chiefs at the athletic dot. Com here are some other stories. We're following at lead. Things are getting testy with the. Nfl's proposed new CBA. Which would make the season seventeen games? Instead of sixteen quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson took to social media denouncing the deal with Roger saying the length of the season was quote. Never something to be negotiated. Meanwhile Wilson tweeted quote the NBA and Mlb are doing it right. Players come first. All players deserve the same. We should not rush the next ten years for today's satisfaction. I vote no but despite this opposition. Nfl PA Executive Director. Demorris Smith told reporters Thursday that he's confident. The deal will be passed. This has been happening in Indianapolis where the NFL combine is also going on but interestingly enough. It's not the prospect workouts that have the football world buzzing the Athletics Lindsay Jones writes quote with apologies to Joe Borough and the rest of the rookies who have traveled here for the NFL scouting. Combine the most interesting quarterback named here in Indianapolis. Is Tom Brady? Where Brady ends up. And where Philip Rivers Cam Newton and Jameis Winston end up have been big talking points at. The Combine Jones writes that quote. It's all these. What ifs and speculation combined by a top heavy draft class of passers headlined by Borough and Alabama's to attack of Aloha? That make this. The most unique quarterback off season possibly ever. That's it for the week. Thanks for listening. Everyone producers. Caitlyn plummer Chris. Siegel and Chris Olen editing and production by senior producers Lea Hernandez and Matt. Strap fact checking by Ian Sound Design and mixing by air in. May Jake Gorski and Joe. Richardson the executive producer of the lead is under Calcio. Could beat the Davidson is our editorial director. Our Show is executive produced by Lea Hernandez Marshal Louis and earn on Lopez for wondering from wondering and the athletic. I'm under SCELZO. I'm could beat the Davidson Sia Monday.

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Da In one of the southeastern county's district attorney right even when he returned to the district. the cops found him after he was called on he was swerving against the cops found him Sitting on the ground beside his car parked alongside the highway and he was drunk. And there's so. They charged him with aggravated. Dwi and also wrote them up for firearms charge because he was drunk and he had his head his handgun on him so they got that one too but the funny thing is while I was googling him Turns out that it was just last year where there was another Deputy District Attorney just a couple of counties over from him a Franchesca somebody or another Flipping back and forth anyway. So there's two D. as it are drunk driving in New Mexico. Of course that's nothing nothing exceptional because the New Mexico. I believe leads the nation in drinking and driving and always has this must be why Sarah demetrious pardon. This must be why Sarah from New Mexico was so worried about pedestrians. 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That had he had he indeed said that and he confirmed the up. New Mexico is the most corrupt state in the nation according in his opinion and he was heading up the FBI in New Mexico region and then the reporter countered with well. That's the same thing that the FBI has said about uh about illiinois and the the the FBI special agent said well especially agent in charge of Illinois has not been to New Mexico. It's very funny David. Thank you so much for the call. I hope things get sorted out in New Mexico but it doesn't sound like short of abolishing the state. That's not going to happen. I mean corruption happens everywhere. That's true but it does seem to be a particular problem in New Mexico a lot of politicians and DA's and things like that getting in bed with each other which perhaps figuratively people that work for these systems. They're crazy and it weighs on them. Well it's not it's and it's it's not just that they're the they're crazy drives them crazy. 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Usa here's Ron Bar Major League baseball celebrating the one hundredth anniversary of the founding of the Negro National League and the Commissioner of Baseball says it commemorates baseball history and it's a tribute to African American entrepreneurship in the culture that existed at that particular time comments from Rob Manford Major League commissioner and the Negro League National League the first Major League we have with us. Bob Kendrick President of the Negro Leagues Museum as the head. Negro Leagues Historian. And that museum. By the way if you're ever in Kansas City be sure to check it out Bob for our younger listeners. Who may not be familiar with the Negro Leagues and everything? Give us a brief history of the Negro Leagues. Ron were formed in Kansas City in nineteen twenty as a matter of fact right around the corner from where we operate the PASSAIC. Ymca building still stands. We now dedicated that building to becoming the buck. O'neil Education Research Center so the Negro Leagues Museum is actually going to expand our operations into the buildings that gave birth to the story that would now charge deserve it but it was in that very building on February Thirteenth Nineteen Twenties that Andrew Rube foster medic contingent of eight independent like baseball team owners into Kansas City. They met at the old for sale. Ymca and of course out of that meeting came the birth of the Negro National League the first successful organized Black Baseball League. The Negro Leagues would then go on to operate amazingly for forty years from nineteen twenty until nineteen sixty and of course it would give a plane graph and some of the Best African American and Hispanic baseball players to showcase their world class baseball abilities. Tell me a little bit about what is in the museum itself. I know as you walk your way. Make your way into the stadium. You kind of gauge through a window at the center piece of the exhibit. Tell everybody what that exhibit is well. It's an amazing experience. And essentially we immerse you back in time and so you walk into an old dollar park and and it's all about the first thing you see is his incredible baseball dying and we call the field of legends on the field of legends is a mock baseball diamond. They'd houses ten of twelve lifesize bronze sculptures of Negro League greats significance being that they represent ten of the first group of Negro League players to be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of fame had cooperstown and the statues are casting position as if they were playing. Jane obviously biased. But I think it's one of the most amazing displays and any new them anywhere in the world. Well you're on the outside looking at this fields but you can't get to the field and you literally have to earn your right to take the feel by learning their story and this story is set on a time line of American history and so you're able to parallel what was happening and Black Baseba- the rise and subsequent. Follow the Negro Leagues with the rise socially of America's simultaneously and so it's an all encompassing history. Lesson that is highlighted through Audifax and script of pieces that bring this story to life and then visitors literally earned the right to take the field. And I'm not lying when you get on that field. It is almost this triumphant like feeling I would say that it was very much on par to what it felt like when Jackie Robinson walked out on the feel as a member of the Brooklyn dodgers. And I've had people who have literally been moved to tears when they take the field by different. The Great Ozzie Smith. When he was here we had a opening of the museum. Way Back in nineteen ninety seven for the new facility. We started this museum in Nineteen Ninety. So we're celebrating the thirtieth anniversary but in nineteen ninety seven when we opened a new facility when he walked out on the field of legends. He said it was one of the most areas feelings that he ever had. Because I think rod what he realizes that he had stood on the shoulders hub easy motor giants to be able to fashion a hall of fame career to become the wizard and he knew that he owed a great deal of gratitude. Ten had a lot of respect for those who pave the way and something that buck. O'neil oftentimes say you know in our society. We more times than not we. We celebrate the people who cross over the bridge but here the Baseball Museum. We celebrate the bridge. Builders they're the ones who allow these other athletes these other African American Hispanic athletes to transition into the major leagues so it is really a very inspiring experience but let me preface by saying this fit nothing sad or somber about this story and even though it is anchored against the backdrop of American segregation retrieved. The story like today celebration because it is just indeed that it is a celebration of the power of the human spirit to persevere prevailed. These athletes never crowd about the social injustice. They went out and did something about it but baseball was very important to the black culture back when you had the Negro Leagues what was the meaning. What was so important about baseball for the black culture but you know baseball was important in society at large. But you're right. It had an inherent value and the African American community and the Negro Leagues were at the root of that. Because what baseball did for this community at that time was it brought great joy to the African American community at the time when it was very challenging being African American in this country as we were dealing with a segregated America and Jim Crow Law but he was something that was intrinsically hours even though it was shared with the rest of the world that that I mean we're talking about black churches would move to service time up in our so people go to these games and and they attended these games in large numbers. One of my pet peeves is the fact that people are and I know they may say were about the same that nobody saw play now. There were a lot of somebody's that happen to be black. They fill it up Yankee stadium. They're filling up the stadiums all over the country. Many of the same stadiums that major league teams playing and as a matter of fact they were outdrawing many major league team so there are a lot of some bodies that saw them play. They just happen to be black and mainstream America miss. Some of the greatest baseball players ever played this game. And so. But you're right it. It had a tremendous impact on the African American community and impact really was the catalyst for successful black businesses. So wherever you had successful black baseball you had thriving black economies so when these people fill out the ballpark. Guess what they come right back where I am here today at eighteen divine. When monarchs played. All these folks came back and did business. In this community that was a segregated mandated community but as a result the community was flourishing. I gotTa tell you I so admire what you're doing as far as capturing this history your big admire an historian of the pitching Great Satchel page and you want said Satchel page. Never really told his age. He was believed to be closer to fifty to forty two when he made it to. The Big Leagues and Satchel was fond of saying. Mind over matter. If you don't mind it sure doesn't matter the also said that you know. How old would you be if you didn't know how old your work? And so he is do the ageless. Wonder he was special. I tell my guest all the time they will never ever have the another Leroy Satchel page not someone rod who combines the longevity about his estimation pissing over twenty six hundred games. The great stuff recorded some fifty five no hitters. That only God knows how to strike outs and the charisma he could sell it. Yeah he said but he can back it up the late. Great Buck. O'neil says but his money the three most charismatic athletes that he ever saw but Satchel page Dizzy Dean and late Great Mohammed Ali. They all sound but they could back it up and Sacha whether it's good as he was as good as any you know. I think we all wish that we could have seen him in his prime because he had the dominating stuff I mean. They clocked his fastball. At a hundred and five miles per hour but wouldn't really made it so special and as you know one. Five is pretty. Don't grow special. But what really made him so special was one. Oh five with ten point control. He put it exactly where he wanted to put it ten even as an old man. He never lost the control. He couldn't throw it. Hardy wants to see it but he can put it exactly where he wanted to and he was still able to get guys out at an ungodly age for pitcher whether it was forty two or fifty two and now closer to the fifty two. We only have about forty seconds left. What do you want people to take away from a visit to the museum in Kansas City? That the Negro Leagues were important and not only Chena game of baseball but even more importantly for helping change this country. This is as much a civil rights story as it is a baseball story and we cannot allow the legacy of the Negro Leagues to die when that last Negro League elitist the face of the Negro Leagues Museum has oftentimes say that need to survive. It has to survive so that we don't lose precious piece of baseball and Americana and so we encourage those. We'll be listening to your show to consider becoming a member of the Baseball Museum and join our efforts to keep a legacy of the Negro Leagues Alive. And you can learn more about the museum at. Www dot l. b. m. dot com. I WanNa thank you Bob. It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. I'm a big supporter of the museum. Take care come back and visit with us again. Our Rob thanks for having Bob Kendrick the President of the Negro Leagues Museum and is the head. Negro Leagues Historian and also. The museum is located in Kansas City. When we come back we're going to share with you an interview. We did with one of the former Negro League players. 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He is a former Negro League pitcher and he grew up down in the south and Mississippi and then about seventeen years old he moved up to Chicago Leah. Let me take you back to Mississippi because I think we all know when you were growing up it was not a very tolerant time for African American people. Tell me what that town Ola was like. Whoa ended no. That was not that bad town. It had its ups and downs. And and I I would say that Our wellbeing had a lot to do with our mother. She was a hot Cohen Lady. And she you know demanded a lot from us you know as far as working and and being young gentlemen and We Was able to do things with the white kids and adults and and and I'll tell you this story. Real quick we lived in the country You know a good while early on and the first football baseball and basketball I touched was Young Whiteboard at lived up right over from us. His parents owned a plantation and His mother and father they allowed us to come over and play a gym quota. And it's just it. Was Kate allowed us to come over and play with With him any time we wanted to and we were able to we had was that limited to do whatever we want to do as long as with dead. What young kids supposed to do? And I never forget. This is the thing I remember the most we had clay outside for. Hyderabad was hot. And we Jim Say well if I get a break. Let's go in and get some something cold to drink this. We said okay so we head to the back door. Because they're all gone said we go into the back to You said Noah what he's retold it were Jim We don't know that you know as professor comp he said look he said Real and Joe. There's love you here playing with us. This is totally Appropriate and I don't ever want to see that heading to back door not here so And I try to look him up and let him know how things what he'd done What potted play with my brother and I what we don after. We left the south so 'cause he became he. He didn't play professional but he became my pollute a police force and chief of police in a small town in the suburbs adult and so. I just wanted him to know that what he done for us did motorized was that the exception or the rule generally speaking in Mississippi at that time. Well it was the exception because To be flight with you when we was playing the gym. His father instructed him to not to allow any sub in the country A white boys to come and play with us because he knew that this would set too well with their craft with them and their parents. It just didn't take that chance and and GM you know followed his instructions We always played There was one other black young fellow that played with us and that made the four of us so but it was always strictly gym and Suntan cake and we played hide. Go seek the bond. And then you know if some of the White Sam is in the south if they had. I think he was playing hide. Go seek with Kate and Von. Crowley would have had a problem. Let me let me let me ask you something about Sports in about baseball because in to the other Negro League baseball players. I've always come away with the impression that it was an avenue. It was something that gave a self esteem to those that played. They also played baseball and it was something about that game. Was it because it was the national pastime and they wanted to have a sense of equality me some insight on that Leo. Well there's some new right. I'm doing a speech in Purulia Sarah Day and And that's the I'm going to include that You know in the country we played there. Were what they call a sandlot baseball teams around the country and that was high baseball playing in the south so From what I understand that Some businessman's got together and put together some teams that turned out to be enough. Stretch Socks Birmingham barons and can't sit him on on and on and from that baseball Begin to grow. And we had no coaches manages. They had inexperienced in baseball. But we was able to get Our knowledge from the older guys that I guess they just Kinda learned it on your own and and that's how We really got started. And that was the pretty much A big thing you know. Bow near that Satellite Baseball playing out in those passes and different wherever they did enough. So I don't know if that answers. Your questions Yeah you'd really. It really does but I'm wondering also about what baseball meant to black fans who were able to see some of their own to be able to play our national pastime. Because I know I've had some talks with some older major league. Players now retired and they told me about the fact that the church was always very important that you would go by a black church and then after church services they go out back take off their jackets. Roll up their sleeves absolutely and play baseball absolutely and usually skew could sign a baseball ground Right behind the church. I can remember just like We was getting ready to go back then. Play right now and this Kind of was the beginning of a lot of the parents who did it. Wasn't that interested in baseball. But it was kind of the beginning of them Getting polite baseball and they saw that Their kids Were stayed out of trouble. The one that I was engaged in in baseball so It began to grow just from that The churches you know having The space in the back and enabled us to play and we had some pretty good just a little boy but we had some good teams back there. The other thing I had heard the other thing I have heard from the players that were the people that played in the Negro Leagues was that they got paid. I mean I remember talking. Willie mays is a friend of mine and I remember talking to Willie about the Negro Leagues. And he was saying he was sixteen years old. He was playing professional. Baseball with the Birmingham Black Barons at that particular time. And I'm just wondering that's amazing to think that all these players when they were sixteen seventeen even younger fifteen years old. We're playing professional baseball. Well he's absolutely right because In this speech did okay do I'm GonNa let these kids know that while in school and and that's you know I was playing list. Lots of full grown men at the age Probably Fourteen and fifteen years old and bay. will come to I can't remember them. Come into our home and begging my mother to let us come out and play and included playing on Sundays and rejected to that. But they were so Insistent that eventually she's well Allow y'all go to searching you know. Come to church in the morning. I'll let you play in the afternoon. So that's you know that was the breaking point Thought and we were. It was a mixture of Thirteen or fourteen year old kids like myself and my brother and others That was playing like I said playing worth These grownup someone probably unnecessary does a maid before it is and they were very good ball players but we were able to Compete and I remember when I came here at seventeen was An Chicago area. It was almost like a class a AA baseball. You know and immediately after Act Guy here. It was a teen by the name of Chicago Cardinals Mr Thomas and soon as that guy he made it go out and pitch and I wanted to well. I'm not sure how we're going to stay out because these guys probably have much more experience than I have but I was able to go out there and compete and it turned out That I ended up being his number one pitcher. Leo Westbrook is with us on sports byline. We'll talk about his career in the Negro Leagues as we continue on Pylon. 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Then to to add to the likes of loop rock new BRA- played With the team called Chicago athletics and I was playing with the team. Congress Chicago cardinals in both of those trials because white socks young boy still in high school and they didn't find either one of those So you see what happened. Was illu bracken. And this could be they. They have signed him after he went back. And you went and played in Panamerican game but it was a less more widespread. It was Much more competitive because That was many more players. That was available you know to So many park districts and other areas and and city and south suburbs and that was different I would say In the south they had a lot at a very good quality of baseball teams but it just was not spread out to the degree that it was in Chicago. I get one example. That's suburban town Call Lansing Illinois Middle Odeon Illinois. And he'll get a little ways out of Chicago and those teams. We compete against them. We had a regular schedule against them. So that's one of the big differences Not as is the the when you got down to the the best ball players you know. It's a pasta. It's just that Here in Illinois it was admitted more to choose from and we had I would say a little bit more. training Like must've Thomas. He was an ex baseball player himself and he was a good teacher of baseball. And most of most of the teams in the Chicago area you know and Serbs. They had guys that You know manages and and try and hold just was operating like a full-fledged nonexistent Lemme ask you something Leo about the fact that once baseball integrated with Jackie Robinson. What was the general reaction? Among African American players baseball players about that integration the selection of Jackie and what lies ahead for for black ballplayers well to be with you when it says happen and I think there is no not everybody but a great number people know that you know the things. That jacket went through and And how that you know your vault with branch Rickey and and And he had that I don't know He. He was smart enough and strong enough to to Take a chance on a jacket and But you know what happened? I mean they went through a whole lot and everybody was pulling Jackie and Now after it got going and the number of players Begin to start a scouting you know. the Negro League very heavy which means that More blacks were you know Well actually the negrete selling selling players actually one of my best friends. was the highest so far more than anybody including Jackie and as and on and on it was highest in what up to Boston for a short while but he didn't study that he was found alive but people in the south I would say everybody became a dodger. Thank you know because of jacket. LemMe ask another question. And that is the fact. Let me take you back to the Lexington Indians. You played for them and you got a couple of interesting stories there and they intentionally over work to Did they not? But tell me about some of your favorite short stories about the Lexington Indians. Well I'll start with Opening night and then I'll get into the over being overworked opening night we open at In Lexington North Carolina and it was only four have been Americans that was on that team and I was the on the kitchen and I didn't start the game But when they introduce C. Three that was starting other three black players The Home Lexington thing is Buddha and when I was called in to relieve the starting pitcher They said put all those and they used it. Were you know? Put all of them in you know one and that was me too so So that was one of the Things that took place and I'll never forget I think that was shortstop. Was Jimmy Durante. From sumpter South Carolina. He hit a home run and tenth eleventh inning to win game and after the game was over I got dressed and he had a jimmy and I was out and and you know talk after the game was open. You know the people that was always people that was friendly into the game and So one came up and and he stated that he said that saw and so that usually in where he hit that ball about disappeared. Jar and so You know my mother always taught us to you know. Just be cool and and deal with themes Tactfully so I I got a place away. Asset what in that you Talking about and it is actually That's David Jimmy walked out and I said that him right there you said you went over there and put his arms around him after what he said and he pulled away. I said Jim you from sucks up to South Carolina and I lived in Chicago now so if I can Headed I know you see this a lot more than I do now so if I can take it you should be able to take. Ideally we WANNA play our way out of the The Carolina League into a higher class and hopefully into the majors. So Jimmy was okay after that. What happened with your arm? this is One one night The Manager Asks Leo. You throw strikes and I need these hit as to You know started hitting a little bit better. And all the way they're going to do this They GonNa have to have some Good stripes thrown. If you've got very controlled so I like you to throw batting practice and and And but you've y'all to shift as far as starting it game you know for the next two or three nights. I said Okay and So I threw around batting practice and he came over and asked me. You said You'd think you can go another round. I say yes you say hostage show so Through two rows about a graph is and you know around it batting practice actually speech hit a getting at least fifteen twenty Swimming so by the starting pitching got knocked out and he called me. You say you think you could finish this up. Oh yeah and that was say Kinda naive. I always said But I told him and I didn't want to be a guy that That's it no didn't show a heart try just told him I figure. That's after pitching to now the batting practice and So after that the next time I went out I felt a you know Paid up I wrote into cut and from that point on The only way I knew what that really happened. was when I went back to throw a fastball and through straight overhand accent Colfax. My curve ball fastball was straight over the top and acts. Napping thing you know. Don't teach guys at throw us that particular delivery along because it was so hot on on so it got to the point where I get took Not just three days. It took five bays a longer before All the inflammation Got OUTTA MOM and and that was it. I never from that night on. I was not able to throw the fastball and I thought it had totally healed until I went to American back centre and they had to catch on to some house. They've you know stretching the out than And I caught onto all with with my right hand and And they pulled me and I had pain and I said no I. Can't you put me in a current but that that But you know really Brought again before I have to ask you before I let you go here. What was the contribution to baseball? Do you think of Negro League Baseball. Well I on us not make the contribution that That negroes Made to baseball is A big time up tip in attendance. And that's what branch rickey was thinking about. You know any Jack asking. Why didn't he? Why did you sign him? And you wrote this thing. He was told him it. Trues MONEY AND So more blacks began to Show up at Baseball Games because you had the lack of you know Well after Jackie Don Newcombe and all those guys So it was it made. It was much more And our minds much more reward into blacks to go to a baseball game. Yes in about ninety seconds Can you tell me a moment throughout your baseball career? That has kind of ingrained in Leo. Westbrook's mind well what's really ingrained in my mind More than anything else is something that Jack Jack. Ross is to at Jack. Ross says Baseball School. While we were sitting in the stands he told All of the Fed just so just a few of your may fan of baseball contract. And if two or three signed outfielder that I would have Been a success and he said I suggest to you that if you don't make gets God just make it and I suggested to go back home if you haven't finished school you know. Go Back to school and get your job and said if you get a job and take care of your family you and what they were called Major League of life and he said that is minimal. People into in the major league of life Just not working a chicken education and working a job then the major league baseball lastly the The fact that I was used to that degree And at You know brought Speeches Hawk and baseball career. Leo I WanNa thank you for sharing your time sharing your career and sharing your life with us. It's been very inspirational and of course the Negro Leagues are something that A very important part not only of our entire sports culture in this country but particularly in the history of baseball. I WanNa thank you for your time. Sir. Take Care Chiasso Leo Westbrook with us again former Negro League pitcher he pitch for the Memphis red sox also the Raleigh Tigers Lexington Indians and also the Indianapolis Count Clowns and after. His career was over with he also worked Booking artists appearances and part of the people that he worked with or one of them was Berry Gordy so he was involved with music as well. We continue across the country and around the world. It's good to have you with us on America's sports talk show remember in the beginning when you first started to build a life for you and your family. You never imagined it would come to this instead of living your dreams. You're living with debt in fact it's smothering you now. 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He was nicknamed the Bayonne Leader for obvious reasons because he was out of New Jersey. Any blend ally former professional boxer who boxed for fifteen years and he was the inspiration for Sylvester Stallone's rocky movies. He had a record of five wins. Fourteen losses and two draws reportedly eight of those losses came during fights because and in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy five he knocked down the champ. Mohammed Ali in the ninth round with a right hand that landed underneath. Ali's hard now. I'll lay claim that wepener was standing on his foot so we will talk to him about that and after weapons third marriage. Ali sent him a picture of himself with the inscription. Chuck Linda Good Luck to my dear friends love Mohammed Ali. After me there will never be another. Get off my foot and then you know that I love good sports books and I get a lot of 'em across my desk and I read a lot of them. Believe it or not but I always liked talking to the authors and John Florio Has COME OUT WITH A book? It's called one nation under baseball. How the nineteen sixties collided with the National Pastime and this book highlights the intersection between American society. America's pastime during the nineteen sixties when the hallmarks of the sport fairness competition and mythology. All came under scrutiny. The book also examines the events of the air that reshaped the game the Colfax and drysdale million dollar. Hold out the encroachment of television on newspaper coverage the changing perception of ball players from mythic figures to overgrown boys the arrival of the every man mets. And they're a free spirited fans and the lawsuit brought against team owners by curt flood and One Nation under baseball also brings to life the seminal figures of the air including Bob Gibson. Marvin Miller Tom seaver and young portraying their roles during a decade of flux and uncertainty. 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And this book highlights the intersection between American society and America's pastime during the nineteen sixties when the hallmarks of the sport. Baroness Competition Mythology. Came under scrutiny. Now you know I read that where you said that one of the influences in your life was being raised in flushing New York. Explain that a little bit more to me. Well you know flushing Queens back. Then was an interesting Kind of area. It was a very insulated area and it was. It was one of those those towns. It was a suburb kind of new suburb. Really kind of blossomed with the world's fair coming into town so it was a lot of young people. A Lotta people my h hanging out so even as a as a teenager you know there was always big groups of guys parties hanging out but when I was younger the way it relates to this book is that I was a baseball fan in the sixties. I was just a kid and the sixty nine. Mets won that year and the whole town was going crazy. I mean that was really a miracle year for listeners. Who weren't around back then in nineteen sixty nine. Mets were really truly an amazing story. I however was a Yankee Fan so for me. That was not the greatest moment of my life. Because you know at that point you know when you're like seven or eight years old you you're either Yankee Fan. And you hate the mets or mets fan and you hate the Yankees so I was actually rooting against the mets and sixty nine. I'm sorry to say because now that I look back and we do some research on that team we do quite a bit of talking about the sixty nine mets in the book. I realized what like a great story it was and and what underdogs they were. I wish I could go back. I'd love to root for the underdog you know when I read the title of the Book and I thought about the second part of that How the nineteen sixties collided with the National Pastime? When I think about baseball and I think about all the different decades. You're absolutely right. The sixties probably more than any other decade. That was the case You think about the fifties and Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier but if you take the totality of the entire nineteen sixties it was a dynamic decade. No doubt run. You know when we have the writer of the Book Is Easy Shapiro by the way And she's fantastic and we when we were sitting down and talking about what book we were going to do. I started not with how the sixties collided with baseball. But we were interested in telling the Jim Belton story because we said you know right at the end of the sixties. Jim Belton came out with the book ball for that was that I tell all memoir that really totally inside story. There had been a couple of others but they didn't really blow the locker room door off the tinges. The Way Boughton dead. And he's telling stories about Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford and these guys are up on the roof of the hotel of Shoreham hotel in DC. And they're they're looking into windows trying to see women on dress. I mean this was salacious stuff and we said well you know that's really an interesting story. Because at the beginning of the sixties Jim Brosnan and other pitcher had written memoir more innocuous but it was very interesting and it told the life of a pitcher going through a very long season. He said I drank Martini. And you know major. League baseball was going crazy that he admitted he had had a Martini. And over the course of ten years we got Jim Bowden. We said well what happened in the decade. Well you start with Brosnan you go through new journalism. There was some newspaper strikes. You go through the phase of New Journalism Gay Talese Tom. Wolfe in all of these guys. And what are you come out with you? Come out with Jim Belton. So we're thinking well. This is a great story. But as we're thinking about it we said well you. That's not the only thing that happened in the sixties. We just started at one point and you ended in another I mean. The the league unionized in the sixties. Right you start out. Was the reserve clause where players were slaves. They're there to do. You can never nowadays. You're not a slave. Your contract runs out. You go to a different team. You make a lot of money back then you will be holding a team. If you didn't WanNa play for that team you weren't GonNa play baseball at all and then by the end of the decade this free agency just about around the corner but the players Associated Association has unionized. Then we started thinking about race. Well you know. Yeah Jackie Robinson integrated game at forty seven but in sixty one teams were going down to the South. They would still. There was still segregation in Florida. The black players like Hank Aaron Bob Gibson. They weren't allowed to stay with their team and sixty one. And then by seventy one. You've got an the Pittsburgh pirates fielding an all minority lineup nine minority players on one lineup. So mean all of those changes came and you would think it hit us right. You know instantly. Hey let's do a book on the Sixties but then we were thinking well which one of these three things do. We WanNa do that. We WanNa do out and we wanted to raise we WANNA do unionization and then we realized wait a minute. This story is about the sixties. The hero of this story is not one person here on this story. The person where tracking is is a is a calendar page and we went through the decades. You know showing how walls came crumbling down on many different fronts. John let me clarify something I might have said. I alluded to the fact about Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in the fifties. But actually it was in the forties as. Well let's talk about what was going on in the sixties outside of sports in baseball. Okay well I mean you know. You're talking about first of all the assassinations right. I mean that's the first thing that I think of. When I think of the sixties I think of the Kennedy assassination and I think of the Martin Luther King assassination and of course Robert Kennedy as well so there were three big Assassinations that happen. But you're also talking about the Vietnam War right. You're talking about the draft. You're talking about You know the Nixon Kennedy debates which were the first on TV so you have the advent of television which changed sports journalism but it. But we're talking about outside the baseball you know. It changed the culture. The American culture. It changed the American living room because she went from radio To TV baseball fans went from going to the park to see the game to staying at home and watching it so these changes that were happening happened through all of society and of course what we try to address how they affected baseball or in some cases how baseball affected society. How did it change the game to any degree? The changes in well. I think the biggest change really Is unionization of the game. I mean the game. We know today with baseball players. Making millions and millions of dollars Going from team to team and I'm saying that in a way I don't mean that this is a negative thing but the way we know the game and the way the game was at the beginning of the sixties really changed because of the Players Union and Marvin Miller starting a taking over the players association in the mid sixties. So that's when it went from really an owner run game too. I dare say a player run game now but at least players have their own you know have their union and they can They have their. They have an equal footing the owners. But that's the biggest. I think changed had the longest lasting effect. And how did the unionisation come around? Well that's you know a reflection of society as well because it sooner or later the game was going to get unionized. I mean you know. The unions were forming and Hollywood unions. Strikes were happening. We cover the the The New York newspaper Strike In the book but there are other sit INS and strikes. And people workers people students citizens becoming more vocal. It only makes sense that sooner or later the players were going to start becoming more vocal and standing up for themselves. But of course it will happen in the sixties because that's when this was on the public consciousness they talk about the MESSERSCHMITT decision. That was very important of course with free agency and everything but in about two minutes before we have to go to a break I really thought the curt flood Story is really one of the key key moments in the change in baseball. Sure well. That's really the same when we talk about unionization and the the control going to the players that really comes back to the flood. Keisha you know. Marvin Miller took over the players association. And here's curt flood saying well. I don't WanNa be traded to another team. I don't want to go to Philadelphia. And he comes to. Miller says you know represent me. I don't WanNa go there. I want to challenge the reserve clause. I want to be able to say where I play. And that's not case in Miller said look you're gonNA lose but what you do. They pave the way for the future. And that's what it ended up They went from playing like slaves to playing us. Free people I mean. That's his famous quote right. I somebody how cosell asked him. Howard cosell said you know you make a million dollars or whatever he he didn't make a million dollars. Maybe one hundred thousand dollars a year and flood said well you know. A well-paid slave is is a slave nonetheless. You know in about a minute before we break here why do you think curt flood sacrificed himself? Well I think it was a couple of. I think it took a certain person was going to do that. I think it's a I was going to take a black player. Who you know because they had they had suffered so many indignity is that one who at that time in the late sixties when race was when civil rights issue and players. Were starting to stand up for themselves and it took somebody at the back end of their career. Curt flood was really on the foreign because his career and so he wasn't risking his entire future by challenging baseball he was risking like a year or two perhaps playing but he was really at the far end so it was. It was the right guy with the right personality at the right time and a guy who was pissed off enough to do something about it. This is a fascinating book. And I hope you'll check it out because it will give you insight beyond the playing field it'll give you insight into society and the Culture. We happen to live in back in the sixties and how baseball kind of intersected with that culture at that particular time we continue across the country and around the world. John Florio is with us as we move along here on sports byline. It has been said that everyone has a book them. But you have the time or the ability to write your book. Maybe you picked up some skills or head. Alight experience that you want to pass on in the form of a book to help others. Maybe you WANNA leave autobiography for your family. Or maybe you've built a successful business and you want to share your story at Dorrance Publishing Company. We HAVE PROFESSIONAL WRITERS. Who can help? 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Which includes Bob Gibson Marvin Miller Tom? Seaver and Dick. Young portrays their roles during a decade of flux and uncertainty. Give me a little more information about how they factored into this. Well you mentioned there were what sticky on and he was a really interesting character because he was kind of the the old school in that he was from the Jimmy Cannon back in fifty s Jimmy Cannon would come and he was a sports writer and he had a lot of power because he wrote these Inciteful pieces about Players but he also had a way of mythology ising players you know like Mantle and Dimaggio. These guys were kings. Dick Young was from his school. He was a a for lack of a lack of a better expression. Let's say a blue collar writer for blue-collar New York and he was covering the players and telling more about their lives now he wasn't really Not He was still a mythology builder but he was starting to get into More than just the game. You know one of the things that was happening newspapers back. Then would you started having morning editions and afternoon editions. So the morning edition guys would cover the scores and the afternoon addition needed. Something else to write about because the scores already covered. Well Dick Young kind of was the Passed the baton from Jimmy Cannon. To a group of sports writers called the chipmunks. No that's an informal name. But these guys like Phil Peppy Stan Isaacs those are the guys who were the afternoon writers who really started writing more about the personal lives of the players. This is something that never really came out before if you were a fan in the sixties to find out what these guys were doing at home To find out things that were happening off the field but they were looking for stories they needed to fill the paper and that of course Really paved the way for Jim down to come along and start telling stuff that's what's happening off the field but it was stuff that was a little more You see so to speak. You know it wasn't. It wasn't as harmless what those guys were writing but what is interesting about is that what made you think. Young and interesting character is he was kind of in my mind. The the pivot from one to the other you know he kind of took the baton Jimmy Cannon and passed it off to the chipmunks. I don't know if he weren't there Whether or not that that move would have been made smoothly. One of the things I like about this book is. It's not only about things serious but also it has some very very funny stories and I've always said I think baseball more than any other sport lends itself to Great Sports Stories and one of the examples you have is about the nineteen sixty five world series and about Sandy Koufax. I'll let you tell story. Well Colfax the interesting thing about that story with Colfax is that he didn't WanNa Pitch. Because it was Yom Kippur. So he sent him not going to pitch in the world series because it's a holiday and he was Jewish but he was not a really religious guy He he just felt. I don't pitch on Yom Kippur so one of the things. We talked about in the book which is not the story. I'm sure you're referring to but is that to this day rabbis. We interviewed rabbis for the book and they sent to this day. Children come in when they're getting by Mitch fit or botnets fit and they say that one of the most important Jewish role models. They have in life one of the top. Three people are Santa Colfax to this day and he had no idea of the statements. He was making and tire community when he said. I'm not gonNA pitch on Yom Kippur. So that really had lasting effect on society in Jewish Society but he didn't pitch so don Drysdale took the ball that day and he goes out and he gets shellacked. So we'll allston comes out so the mounts take non drysdale out because he's not getting hit and because he's getting hit and Drysdale look sediments says I bet right now wish. I was Jewish to any other stories in this book. That kind of leave you chuckling today even when you think about them well. I kind of dumb. But I'll tell you one story that I was thinking about before when we were talking about Dick Young Is that there was a writer. Joe Trembled. Who is sports beat writer? Who was covering the World Series when Don Larsen fifty six when Don Larsen throws the perfect game and he's got to get a story out right away? This is one that would just the morning writers. We spoke about morning afternoon writers. But he's got to get something right away because it's going to be in the morning edition the next morning edition. And he's stumped. He's looking at it. He's got a deadline. The clock is ticking and somebody just pitched a perfect game in the world series. This is an unbelievably big moment. That was handed to him and he froze and he couldn't come up with anything and he turns to somebody and he says get me. Dick Young young comes over. This young was not a veteran at this point but he was like a cool customer and tremble. Sentiment says I I'm stuck so the youngsters are typewriter sits down and he hammers out one cents and when Trimble looks at the sentence he says okay. I got it from here. Don't worry your your work here is done and the sentence done Dick. Young hammered out and that typewriter was today. The imperfect man pitched a perfect game and that was the line that's set tremble tremble on a lot of words for that story and young never said anything in fact when it was Dick Young's trembled was retiring. Kyung was there trembled. Says you know I have to admit something that I never admitted to anybody else. And he tells the story. I've won many awards for this particular. Gave me the first line he said? But I've never told anybody that's story and what makes me What makes me Love Vic Young? So much is that he never told anybody that story either. I'm also interested in the integration of baseball because I was a youngster growing up in Washington. Dc and Calvin Griffith was the owner of the Washington senators at that time and He was not a very tolerant or open minded man and there were a lot of owners that were like that so as the integration of baseball came along I think they went kicking and screaming some of those owners in baseball. Well you mentioned Calvin Griffith. I mean he moved the senators to Minnesota. They became the Minnesota twins but the reason that he moved them out there because he wanted to move. The demographics were wider so he took his team. He just upped and left What's interesting in the book is that we talk about in nineteen sixty six how the Milwaukee braves came to Atlanta because entry young and others Atlanta civil rights leaders and the mayor of Atlanta Ivan Allen. We're trying to build an integrated city from the top down. And they said well. We need to legitimize. This is a baseball team and stadium. Because that's when you really on the map and they had to woo Hank Aaron and the braves to Atlanta and iron was didn't want anything to do with the south. He had grown up in the sally at suffered enough as as a black man in the south but he came and that ended up really legitimizing the the city. And what's interesting is that now this this season Atlanta is moving out of that stadium. And they're moving to a white suburb but COBB county. I'm I'm not saying it's for the same reasons as Calvin Griffith. I mean. I'm not accusing anybody of anything. But it is interesting that the very reason. The team came there in nineteen sixty six. I guess those reasons don't matter as much anymore or maybe time has passed but for whatever reason they're now moving out to Cobb county so whatever. Edry young had done is kind of being raised. Now we have a little bit over. Two minutes. Left at the issue of race also touched other sports as well such as football because the Washington redskins were described as having the team colors of Burgundy gold and Caucasian. And I think about the issue even today about the use of the word redskins and I just shake my head. Well Yeah I mean and also now rob. Manfred just came out. I think it was last night was talking about the The Cleveland Indians Insignia to the the has the native American there. But it's the it's a very stereotypical image. I forget what they call it. They have a name for it. Well let me interject. Let me interject this. I had a discussion about the this sort of thing on the show one night and a woman called me from Milwaukee and she said I'm part native American and she said I just want everybody to know. How do I describe to my daughter that we don't look like the Cleveland Indians Character? Right exactly exactly right and yet you know there's still there's still a struggle over it so all these years later that's one of the interest. I have to say. That was one of the most interesting things about researching and writing. This book is how many of the issues we were talking about. Atlanta coming into building their stadium. But there's so many issues even with riot race and civil rights that are still around today. It's amazing to read what was going on in the sixties and to see so many of the same things popping up now. It doesn't feel. It felt very topical even though we were writing something that was fifty years old and we only have a minute left. But what do you want people to take away from this book John? Well I think that There's a lot of people in that book that deserve a lot more credit than they ever got. I think Marvin Miller certainly belongs in the hall of fame. He he turned the game on its ear and I don't think he ever got the recognition he deserved. And I think guy like Jim Belton who came along and wrote what is now that the New York Public Library calls one of the one hundred greatest books of the twentieth century most influential books of the twentieth century. It's still Ostracized some degree for Major League Baseball for writing this book fifty years ago but look at what he paid for other people so I think a lot of things that went on in the sixties and the people in the characters involved people today fans today don't realize that what they're looking at as a result of the the the stands that people like curt flood took and the risks that Jim Belton took in the heart sweat that Marvin Miller put into the game. This is the fruits of their labor. What we're watching now John. Congratulations to you. And it's an outstanding book. I'm looking forward to reading it from cover to cover because I know your work and and this is just another aspect of it and it's just an outstanding book. Thanks a lot for joining us. John Florio with us John Florio with US and The name of the book is called. One Nation under baseball out the nineteen sixties collided with the national pastime. I urge you to read and check this book out. 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Just twenty four ninety nine plus double over awards points which means you'll get your next reward even faster o. Reilly AUTO PARTS BETTER PARTS. Better prices every day parts. This is America's sports talk show sports byline USA. Here's Rhonda Chuck Wepener joins US on Sports. Byline the former professional boxer who boxed professionally for fifteen years and he was the inspiration for Silvester stallone rocky movies. He had a pro record of thirty five wins. Fourteen losses and two draws and reportedly eight of those losses came during fights because of cuts in one thousand nine hundred seventy five. He knocked down the champ. Mohammed Ali in the ninth round with a right hand that landed right underneath. Ali's heart and his life and his career is now immortalized in the movie. Chuck with live Schreiber playing chuck. And you know with this movie coming out about your life in your career chuck. Did you finally say to yourself? It's about time something about I would launch. Well on the forty eight you know I. I've held a job the same job for fifty years in February. I worked in the liquor industry and I was anxious about getting this idea. I worked talk for and I had to be ranked dates in the world and I was on nine winning streets and When I finally got to train full time. 'cause that's the only fight my whole career avid trained full-time because they have to run in the morning or goals a and then go to. Jim Night a lot of times either not much but the don kings sent me up the camp. I spent seven weeks up there. I got great shape and I. I gave volley You can handle you know. He was still too great for me but I gave my shop. Tell me a little bit about Bayonne New Jersey. Well it's blue collar town. We have about sixty two thousand people living here Right now I've lived here my whole life. I came here when I was a year and a half old with my mother and my brother who is a year younger than me and We live with my grandmother. Who Says Superintendent of the building on Twenty Eighth Street and we say you you know a great town? It's good people and take take me. You know one way I mean The town works haunted the Blue Collar Town. And that's the way. I thought I would never great. I'd just a pretty tough guy who can take a punch and I was only done at one time. When Ali in the Fifteenth Round and You know that's the only time I was down. And unfortunately fortunately they stop to fight with nineteen secs go but you know. I gave my shot and he was so you just came off the knockout of George Foreman. He was telling great fighter. What was the appeal of boxing to you? Chuck you make some money and I was. I was working two and three jobs. Most of my life and it It was a chance to to make some extra money to begin an answer when the golden gloves in New York Madison Square Garden. Matter of fact I was the only man Saturday Jersey ever to win that title. And since then to no one's ever wanted kept me in the heavyweight division and that was a white commodity to be honest with you you know they division was mostly black And that's a great fight. He's and that's one of the reasons they gave him a shot at Eilly. 'cause I was Kinda world and a fight to fight for the title but because I was a white guy and a division that was ruled by most of the Black Guy. You know I have a friend of mine who. I'm sure you recognize the name Barry Tompkins. Who does play by play on boxing for HBO Showtime as well? And I was having a having a chat with him. And I think it really sums up boxing. He said at a heavyweight championship fight. It's one of the truly great sporting events because it's only place you can be there and see a pimp sitting next to a preacher. It's it can think about it. He's probably right to get all different cross. Sections of people air and It is a one on one sport and I think that's what draws people so he's not defend that depend out four other guys or ten of the guys. I can put all the chips you your opponent to now and I think that's why people like it chuck also when you think back you know. All boxes like the fight in their hometown but you know Bayonne New Jersey and everything smaller atmosphere. What was that club like atmosphere fighting in one those fights in Bayonne New Jersey? Like tell me about the crowd tell me about the atmosphere Alec Crowds Naturally Oil for you. You know your home town and They own a lot of good fighters through the couple of low rank. Lightweights a couple of middle weight that were ranked and Durant though and Jimmy Soda We've got some good on when you fall down my face. I sold out every twenty four locally so it was great that crap behind you one hundred percent. Tell me and everybody else how. The nickname leader came about studying listed in Jersey City and Let's go let's talk and sprayed blood all over the The Guy was sitting near the press and everything as ringside and Rosey Rosenberg the editor of the time. So Jesus blood all be calmer kinda bail leader and that's how I got the next thing you were nine hundred seventy five taking on Mohammed Ali. Tell me how that fight was made. I was We took on Canada's got promoted and I was climbing up the ranks because I had one sit around and there was a guy terrible Terry. Heiki out Salt Lake City. Utah another white guy and To be out there looking for a white guy fight the champion George Foreman and won't be old high. I go out to salt. Utah KNOCKED OUT. Eleven grant down seven times and higher my shot at the time again. George Foreman three weeks later former fights Ali in Zaire and He gets knocked out. He knocked him out so Jon case it to me. I promise you shot at the titles. You're GONNA fight Ali. I believe by three months and a day later it broken in the New York News and all the papers and Out that I was getting shot title. You know you mentioned that. Fight one fifteen rounds and now. He was in his prime at that particular time. And that's impressive. Say that you went fifteen rounds with Mohammed Ali. Tell me about how that fight developed as you went along. What was it that you did? What did you see in 'em why were you able to go the distance with him and in a sense well the reason? I think the big responses against the train full time the only time in my whole career. I got to train time so I was ready for him. He might look past me a little bit. He just came out to knock on a knockout as good form and and I thought he I thought he thought he was. Cut Me up and they stop it early but I dated didn't stop it. I got a couple of seven CICCIO. Total which is I used to get that on a weekend on our guys you know. So those cuts it bother me. I kept coming Adam and we were trying to wear him down. Get him into the lead rounds of maybe a chance to knock him out but he was still too great for me was a great pre one of my all time favorites and I got to know him better and I I got to look. The guy was just shoot up in. Kentucky the myself and about seven other guys of four sent them all to having a one time and we were out. We rounded to be up to after that fight. What type of respect What was your life like that because I mean I remember seeing that fight and I know everybody was impressed with what you had been able to do with Ali. You know by my my life really turned around not only the fight came all but the IAEA later so that's the Salon wrote the movie rocky and said that I was the inspiration and now I'm fifty Ravanelli. The what are the Academy Awards for Best Picture and my Wi- my life on a little crazy and I went a little crazy hannity for about four and a half five years and got involved Kane and partying the room. My marriage and I guess I thought I can handle that but I couldn't send thirty years later. Turned it all around and they're making a movie about me and I'm very fortunate I. I'm really blessed. You know. I've always found the boxing game to be fascinating particularly when you were in that game back in the seventies and the eighties as well. Can you give some insight as to what the game was like? Because we've always known about you know about the managers and about everything and rock about the the fighters that lose all the money that they made or they didn't make any money at all. What was the game like? They're not I will never made a lot of money. Yeah that's why I always held a job and box. The hundred thousand dollars for the fight imagine gets a third. He's training attempt to Santa Government. Takes Twenty five thirty percent so you don't really wind up with much but in that era People say the greatest here for the heavyweight division history we have myself Holly Flaumingh phrase that no one listened. Terrell I mean anyone these guys could have been a champion of the world and it was a tough division. Nowadays they've got to. They've got a couple of good fighters but they're not for me as safe and that era. Though my era we had could be added to ten guys from the I take a great division. You know one of the things I do know about you. As you've already alluded to is that after that fight you did have some problems dealing with all of that. You went to prison for a short period of time but it was your wife. Linda that really brought you back to Earth almost in a sense tell me a little bit about her and how that worked out Alex. Linda was a hot ten twenty four years and Anthrax came home from vacation as I call it too. Because it's not really that bad if you go to prison. You're a tough guy. Nobody bothered you. How is it top cat and It time time wouldn't that bit is the corrections officers were respectful and avoid respectful. And I don't know if you saw the movie but still own actually came to know the State Prison in film the movie laptop there while I was in and I got to see him It was it was a different era than you know what I mean. People had a lot more respect. Now what happened here? There was a bombing name. I mean what is going on in this world. I mean you know I. It's it's shameful but it was a different era in that time. You know there was some guys around the mob connected is at all but I never got five with that the two. I didn't like those people very much but I think come in contact with him after I retired and it was. It was a great era. Here is not compared to now. That's for sure. Schreiber is going to be playing you in that movie or has played you and I'm just wondering I love him on television and I love the series that he's been doing on television as well. Tell me Ray Donovan yes. Tell me a little bit about your interaction with him. Well first time we met they. They told me over the phone My producer my head produced a Called me up and he said to me. Chuck where we're for interviews the most people and we've got another script because he turned down three of them and the actors that take pick tie. I wasn't crazy if that we turned out about three or four. And Anyway I got a call and They have we. We've got a guy that's willing to play a lot to try and I said leave tribe. Are you kidding me? The guy is great. I mean I'm still. I'm in the ALLMAN. I saw him in the Manchurian candidate over even wanted so he was he was just the kind of guy I figured complaining. He looks like a rough and tumble guy. And I was thrilled to death. And they brought them on and we met met over his apartment and We sat and talked to them. We went out together. We talk and Told my all of my producers will be about five or six of them but Mike told him was the head guy of course and I said to Mike. You got the right guy. Stick with them and Let's count for this movie. We only have a minute left. But what were you like people to take away from this movie? Chuck I like people. Stay away the fact that hey even though you get knocked down. I got knocked down. You know I I guess jail and everything but even though you get back down you get up and you can go forward and you can. You can turn your life around. That's what I did. What is that moment in your career? Chuck that is kind of ingrained on your mind. Makes you smile that you'll never ever forget ever climbing to rain that night Cleveland. We'll talk across the ring. 'cause I was always afraid someone happened to leave because her Saturday and it was a lay the announcement saying it's going on that cornices and we would get rid of that was just throwing my life. I couldn't wait to sought. Are you happy with the way the movie came out? Yes I am very happy They could have been a little kind to me but you know what they told the truth. L. Knows what would happen to me if I didn't get jammed up and You know that that. Turn my life around Linda right here in the matter of fact just may Jennifer. It's while I was writing a while. I was cleaning. I T shirt Italian princess Shock I wanNA thank you very much for your time. You've always been very gracious to me here at Sports byline take care. And congratulations on the movie. Thank you very much. How did I say Chuck Wepener with US again? They called him the Bayonne leader and he really took it to Ali. It went fifteen rounds He finally lost the fight but he knocked Ali. Down in the ninth round. 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Three two fifty five seventeen. This is America's sports talk show sports byline USA. Here's Ron Bar. That's going to wrap up this sports spot on where we talk boxing with the baone leader. Chuck wapner former professional boxer. Who fought for fifteen years and he was the inspiration for Silvester Stallone's rocky movies. He had a pro record of thirty five. Fourteen and two and reportedly eight of those losses came during fights because of cuts and in one thousand nine hundred seventy five knocked down the champ Mohammed Ali in the ninth round with the camp claim that Wagner was stepping on his foot he also was convicted of cocaine possession and was sentenced to ten years in prison but he was released after eighteen months and John Florio. The author was with us. Check out his book. It's a very interesting read. It's called one nation under baseball now. The nineteen sixties collided with the national pastime. I'm Ron bar good to have you with us on America's sports talk show. 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Four seven hundred seventy one thirteen lot worldwide sports byline us. And here's host Ron and good to have you along the right here on sports byline. I think you're gonNA find this our very very insightful and interesting one of the things I've tried to do with sports byline over. The years is to look at stories that are off the beaten path when it comes to sports give you some insight one of the segments we have on Fridays on sports. Byline with Roy. Eisenhart is inside angle in which we look at some of the issues in sports not from the traditional way but from a different perspective it may be illegal way it may be an educational way it may be a syam away and I. We've gotten a lot of response than that and I love to do stories like that because yeah you can do the interview with the mainstream athlete. But there's also a lot of things that you can do with athletes that are probably not well known that. I think he'll say Gee. I did not know that the other thing I loved to do is to watch documentaries. I mean Ken. Burns certainly did a great documentary on Jack Johnson. He did a great documentary on baseball as well. And I came across a documentary. That was on showtime and it's outstanding documentary called prison fighters five rounds to freedom and this was about prison fights the take place in Thailand and if you get through the whole gamut of fights and you win the last fight then you are released from prison no matter what the crime was and of course. There's a lot of things that go along with that whole atmosphere such as the atmosphere at the fight the notoriety but prisons or like in Thailand. And then what about the family of the victim if you happen to kill somebody but yet that person by fighting ends up getting out of prison a fascinating documentary and mark? Kriegel is the author of that critically acclaimed New York Times bestseller. Nemeth pistol a life of Pete Maher Vich and the good son. The life of Ray Boom Boom Manzini. He's done all of those and he's been part of the Emmy winning teams for the NFL network and also showtimes outstanding documentary series as well and again. If you have a chance to check out this documentary on showtime it's called prison fighters five rounds the freedom and then right after that a fine author is going to be joining US Rob Garret. The mariners professor of English and humanities at the University of puget sound is baseball articles appeared in nine also sabre bio project. And he's written an interesting Book called Home Team. The turbulent history of the San Francisco giants I think Whether you're a giants fan or not you're going to find this inciteful again from a emeritus professor of English and Humanities Rob Garrett so we're ready to go good to have you along for the ride here on sports byline a little story about Bruce Smuggled Davis I am feeling pain. What your dog died. Your girlfriend left. 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Mark Kriegel joins on sports byline. He is the author of critically acclaimed New York Times Bestsellers. Nemeth pistol the life of Pete Muravich and the good son the life of Ray Boom Boom Mancini and he has been a part of Emmy winning teams for the NFL network and also showtimes outstanding documentary series and he is the writer for another showtime outstanding sports documentary called prison. Finders five rounds to freedom bark? This story is so out of the norm of what we think of when it comes to crime punishment and release. Tell us the story behind this extraordinary documentary. There is a free lance Shooter Producer Director. I seem once every once in a while guys name. Is Michael Brown? Young Kid play football. Kansas and I'd see him Doing something for the NFL network. On say I ran into him doing a piece on Shane. Ray and he's a devout Christian played briefly for Kansas opposite The cornerback keep delete. Receiver ran a four to forty not great hands but He was knowing about wondering. What's the best story I can find any came up with this prison? Fight tip and he went back and forth for a period of promptly about A year or two to Thailand. Trying to set this thing up. You've heard that there was A system in place where inmates in Thailand could essentially fight their way free Fight their way to to parole and his instincts were really good and but he but it was sort of in the in the Netherworld of Thailand. So he himself like meeting with promoters and stay steam rooms and alleys and all sorts of stuff. Finally he he gets enough together. He comes show tar. He approaches my producer on all access. Jason Jason called me about writing and helping to produce and he gave me the pitch me too stuff. I'm looking over the material and I I knew it was but my first reaction was. I'm in and I think that What I saw initially stands the whole holds now that basically as a as a dramatic construct. It's it's like Dana White meats. Dust Oh yes. De- climb in punishment to the elements of a fight movie and a prison break movie so it's hard It's hard for right to screw that up so I I was in from the beginning. That's how that's basically how it came to pass but how it got started and we sold. It's showtime the thing that surprises me. The most is prison. Fight is not reserved for petty criminals. Actually violent criminals including those convicted of murder and sexual assault had been freed and in some cases fully absorbed their crimes through their participation in prison fights that is just the opposite of what we think. Why is it done that way constructed? That way I mean the. They're they're they're absolve some of them can get a royal pardon which actually means nuts. It's not just Europe's off your records expunged because is rather extraordinarily circumstances. The Guy we use at the center of this name was noise. Cow Pond was was essentially gang leader and Fatally stabbed someone in the neck. So you you you have. Everything is set in starkly. You're the murderer trying to go free. He's been in Five seven years but one thing to keep in mind is it's it's a different culture I don't think it's quite a different As we'd like to think I don't know I mean how old you are. But I remember in the seventies there was a guy named James Scott and he fought as a light heavyweight title as a light-heavyweight while serving time in rockaway state prison in New Jersey and ABC and NBC televised Those fights and they were very popular today. You know if you if you did it. You probably have paid. People picketing outside the prison Now he wasn't fighting explicitly for his freedom. But I'm sure fighting you know while on. Tv helped helped his cause for for parole and Neither the sanctioning bodies the networks had any problem make money off it that being said the construct is explicitly different than it is in in the United States. And you know Moi I is It's a sport. It's an art. It's it's really a way of life in Thailand in united so much of uptight culture. There's the religious images woven through it nationalistic tales But ultimately it's not a sport like baseball or soccer ultimately a combat sport is violence all the other sports metaphor so but something like Tyrolean which is hurting another guy So that ultimately begs the question again. It's difficult for a writer to screw this up. Kim violent men redeem themselves through violent acts. And I'm not sure we come to a neat A NEAT resolution of the question but It it's an interesting. It's an interesting question to pose and the story. I think it's compelling enough to keep you following throughout and it's only one fighter who ultimately gets released then after the competition. Well in our case we followed followed. One Guy. Top pond there. There are a couple of other Lives we profile. There was a guy named. Oh nickname. Oh who had been a WBZ CHAMPION? A conventional boxer and he popularized notion of prison five his famous before he went in and Entitled Talents Been Just savaged by a methamphetamine epidemic. So he he was caught with with math. He kind of intimated that the police put it there because famous whatever the case may be got sent to twenty years and because he was famous for these exhibitions while in prison he popularized this notion of prison fight. which actually goes back to the original legend of how? Moi Tai started a tie. Prince was captured in Burma. Burmese kings at fight. One of my God four one two three four five. Actually ten of them beat them. All the Burmese king said. Okay your free. So there's a sort of Liberation Theology at the At the Beginning of of all ties stuff so Nor we follow annoy through this entire process. And he's he's been in five years he has A five year old six year old son who he sees in prison we we see them. We see the kid visit for the first time since he's been two years old And it's it's an emotional really heartfelt scene and You start rooting for annoyed. And then you go into noise backstory and figure out what he's really done we only have. We got about two minutes before we have to break here. But I want to go back and get a clarification and that is as I mentioned. It's people that have done critical bad things like murder but why not the petty criminals as well what eliminates them from being able to be in this competition it? It's not just it's not just a petty criminal. I think it's it's open to anyone who can fight In general the people in Prison Matai system and we had we had a couple of penitentiaries rather extraordinary People are in prisoner in prison. Usually serious stance Many drug offenders because again society has been ravaged by Meth But there's also some violent criminals as well so you don't. You don't see that many people in for petty crimes doing long long stretches. That's that's why I in about a minute. One is the general reaction of the populace of Thailand toward this. I don't think people have much of a problem with it. There are other. Social injustice is The criminal justice system and explore this pretty explicitly in the dock starting bribery one of the reasons nor is in jail not just because he deserves it and did the crime but also his parents couldn't come up with enough money to bribe cops to make the case. Go Away now what we did along the way is you see more. You see his son see his parents you become to come to sympathize with me becomes an empathetic figure and then you introduced to the family of the victim. There you know as you might imagine Entirely against this. I think it's a horrible thing that that That you can find your way out of jail. But the fact remains and other people in in Thailand. Buy Their way out of jail. Yeah let me get into that after the break here. We're talking with Craig. Oh He is the writer for another Showtime Outstanding Sports Documentary. It's called prison fighters five rounds to freedom. Make sure you check this out. It's one of the best that I've ever seen. Showtime is certainly putting out a number of outstanding documentaries. These days we continue across the country and around the world we've got you on sports byline. It has been said that everyone has a book in them. But you have the time or the ability to write your book. 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That's eight hundred five eight four twenty five nineteen. This is America's sports talk show sports byline. Usa Appears Ron Bar. Mark Kriegel is with us here on sports byline. He is the writer for another Showtime Outstanding Sports Documentary. I want you to check this out on showtime and certainly on demand it's called present fighters five rounds to freedom. I'm sure mark when you go into a project you think about it. You kind of wonder which way it's going to be. Maybe you have access to the direction it's going to go. What were the surprises here for you on this project? I think that the surprises but few one was. I mean dealing with the bureaucracy. The prison bureaucracy was was difficult and somewhat arbitrary. I was surprised once we were in the prison How much work. We were giving them the place how much you're thirty. The guards had Without any guns or they were outnumbered they had you know batons rake during the shoot. Have a rather elaborate lunch with the warden The pace of the bedding in the Big Moi ties stadiums in Bangkok the frenetic quality to it. The the the bets changing the odds changing between rounds guys shouting the odds that shocked me somewhat also and I think that this is really important to understand. It's it's the national pastime. It's like baseball but again it's not like baseball because it's violence And it's but it's held sacred in this society. What you have. It's not just you know guys and and women to fighting their way out of prison. They have produced some Olympic champions from this system. But you have kids. Who are eleven twelve thirteen fifteen years old? Who were put out by their families to fight for money in the big stadiums in Bangkok local places in the countryside. It's an accepted way of life. It's central to the to the Thai condition In in the way of way of thinking about not just sport but about things things that are tied and ultimately what your that you pose in I guess in a more existential sentences you know at what point does does victory become virtue and what price. It's not just you know again. It's not just any victory. It's a violent. Also I WANNA ask you about the atmosphere at a fight at one of these fights and I'm assuming that someone who is successful in this sport It becomes somebody of stature in prison and my correct about that. It's it's the way to go in prison The it's an incredible spectacle to see the fights in one of these stadiums and again I'm taking the bedding And and the guys holding cell phone taking bets for guys who are not on site. It's it's just I I I have to see it. It would imprison the the fighters are very incentivized to join a multi unit where they can enter the prison program. Many of them will pros before or a trained in way tied. Before before incarceration. But if you're a normal type prisoner you have a cell. I don't know twenty by thirty. Maybe maybe less eighteen by thirty and about sixteen sixty guys in their fifty to sixty one little hole one of the room. The bathroom If you're in the multi unit and you're training guys all day long you're maybe Twenty to twenty five in these dormitories shells. So you know you're like spooning the guy next to you So that that's it makes a huge. That that's a much lighter burden right there You'd better food higher protein content. So if you're in the multi unit basically do is train all day. You don't have another job that is you guys your job The other thing that struck me was there's a whole class of foreign of expatriate foreign fighters who come to Thailand from. I Dunno Marseille from. We had a kid from Wichita Kansas. Who go there to find themselves to train. In our case the fight was noise against an American so we had a character who could go against noise and translate everything into you know a American vernacular and he'd adopted all sorts of Buddhist ways of looking at the world and again he was engaged in his final combat and he said something. I stayed with me if noise killed somebody. He's he's fighting for his freedom. I can't let this be easing him. And you know the the American kid. His name is cody. He's from Wichita. Kansas I thought that he was enormously articulate and compelling As a former school up pu found his way to Thailand. Found something himself Because he has to put on display in this climactic fight scene knowing that so much is at stake in a fight. Like this and I'm not going to give away how that fight ends. Because he did go up against the American cody moberly In the in the final fight those that lose and do not get their freedom. What effect does it have on them? Did you witness anything along that line? Mark basically going to the back of the line as far as your if you win so many fights Getting enough publicity very conscious of the wardens a very conscious to bureaucratic very conscious of how this reflects on the prison. Does this bring glory to the prison? Bring Glory to the Morton's And strangers that may sound. I I have no. I have no doubt that in American Beer Prison Bureau Cracking Jersey focusing. I'm worried about James. Scott I'm the nineteen seventy it's just the parameters of the equation weren't made as explicit so that's basically what I got. You know also as well as I do no matter what the sport is in the world. There's a political side to it a political angle to it. I mean we've seen it in figure skating. We've seen it in boxing We've seen it in every sport that I can think of. What's the political stakes in this competition? Well I mean the political stakes is is for the prison system. To look good is what you're what you're hoping for ultimately is a royal pardon which expunges record But it's a it's a country whose it's a country struggling some good publicity especially around its criminal justice system which is based in good measure on bribery. And it's a criminal. Justice system is confronting this after death epidemic of of mass so all of that is is intensified. The Need to put on a good face. Were we've got about three minutes left and you know as you were talking and I'm thinking about this in the final analysis. I think it boils down to you. Have somebody that committed a crime. A SERIOUS CRIME. Maybe even murder. And you've got as you touched on a little bit earlier. The victim and the victim's family is doesn't strike you as somewhat unjust to have this type of competition to get your freedom just because you happen to win a sports competition. I mean I can't you know I mean but but I can see all the arguments four noise freedom when I see with his kid when I see Norway and his parents when I've seen how hard is parents work in the chicken shop. He's a basically simple virtuous people who love this on want them out and wonder what more if he's in fact reformed. What more harm to me done now. I mean I've been if you've ever done any reporting in imprisoned is usually two things are true. Anyone you interview any made you interview is charming an innocent in this case more. I really couldn't make the that he was innocent. It was again 'cause interest but he was certainly charming and good enough to make you believe that. He was if not rehabilitated. In on the way to rehabilitation. See if you look at this from a purely utilitarian point of view I god. This guy's this guy's this guy's reform and you can you can see he there. There are elements of good person. It's not until you hear the basically the testimony of the family of the guy he killed. You have to really really examine but you think about noise and you wonder is the right guy up his freedom. You not that conflicted when you hear about those stores. Because he was a famous fighter may or may not have been framed its drugs. It's not the same type of it's not the same type of prime. There's no there's no real victim you can point to and you have a crime of violence like a murder. Now you have a real you know you have a real story and story depends on two things conflict in del Mar. I've gotTA run. Both of those in abundance is a pleasure. Mark you very much mark. Kriegel with us again. The author of critically acclaimed New York Times Bestsellers Nemeth pistol. The life of Pete Maher Vich and the good son the life of Ray Boom Boom Mancini but check out this documentary from showtime. It's another in a series of outstanding documentaries. 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That's up in the Seattle area and is baseball. Articles appeared in nine and also sabre bio project. And he's written a very interesting book called home. Team the turbulent history of the San Francisco giants Rob There are thirty teams in Major League Baseball. So why did you pick the giants for this book? Well honestly when I gave up. I I'm a recovering. Irish lip professor and my last book was on the Irish novel. And I decided you know. I've long in the game and academic life. I'm GONNA write something I've always wanted to write and I started reading books about West Coast. Baseball how Major League Baseball came to the West Coast? Because I was a kid at the time I was a field fan when I was in high school and then the giants came and change that. Well I started doing reading and I found out that the storm is dominated by the dodgers in fact One book call is called. The dodgers moved west and there's a slight reference to giant somewhere about one hundred and eighty page one hundred eighty four. So I began looking into this and realize giant story had never really been told. Walter o'malley had overshadowed KARSTON A- and and La. You know the story about them getting settled and so I began doing my research Started interviewing my first interview was Monte Irvin. Who taught about the New York years and then I I just began working. It took six years to get book ready to go I did a lot of interviewing a lot of research but I wanted the giants story sort of brought out and told because they they are very important. Part of a great chapter in making the national game truly national geographically. So you grew up in the San Francisco area. Then I get it. I went to high school in San Mateo. I was born and raised in San Francisco. My parents down the peninsula when I was about twelve and When the giants came I was so. Let's see I would have been a junior in high school? I remember the parade and then I became of course the giants Fan Followed them for years. I asked that question because I came to San Francisco in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven and the one thing I knew about the city has had a very rich tradition when it came to baseball. Not Major League Baseball because as you pointed out they moved out from the East Coast. But can you talk a little bit about what baseball was like in San Francisco as you were growing up? Well we were When you look back at the old PCL which was the game we knew kids and also my parents and my grandparents my my first professional game. My grandfather took me just feels play on and they were legendary players. Of course the Dimaggio's all places steals but they had gene would lean in Sarah Spain and the number of great players it ended up in major league baseball but oftentimes The quality of the game was so good at the PC L. That they would come back often players would be shuttled back and forth many even preferred the West Coast and the rivalries were wonderful. We had the Oakland Oaks. There was a Hollywood stars the La Angels the San Diego padres Seattle rainiers the beavers of Portland Sacramento Salons and of course the seals and of all those that I've named all the two are in the major leagues right now although cities so it was it was a great west coast rivalry and and so quality game so it was wonderful. You mentioned that in nineteen fifty seven Horace Stoneham brought the giants out of New York and San Francisco. Tell me a little bit about him. And how that transaction took place. Well you know he was the guy who was shy and reticent Many many people who talk about horror still in immediately talked about his drinking but he was of course a man of his time. If you want it to look at owners who drank you you'd have the lineup. Pretty much all major league baseball but he was an incredible person with his teams and in the loyalty he had to His players was something of Legend I had the Privilege and opportunity to interview both willing to cover him Willie mays and that's one of the first things. They brought up about stone loyalty to players He was also a pioneer on ways. That baseball I believe is not giving him credit. He really broke baseball second color barrier when he got all the Latinos it was it was really the giants to broaden the Great Latinos of the late fifties and early sixties and. He did another thing. He made the game global by bringing the first Japanese player ever to play in the major lakes but must county so are in addition to signing many African American players in the late forties He was you know the second play of the second team besides Brooklyn internationally to bring African American players. He was visionary in an open to the game in many many ways and of course is gay. Gig great contribution is to bring a West Coast to get major league to West Coast Baseball. So that's another thing should be given credit for the I was just going to ask you. Is he a contemporary to the pioneer branch? Rickey with what he did with Jackie Robinson is he considered in that same light. Well no he's not. That's that's kind of the problem stone sort of in the shadows and although he doesn't get credit for the first Players of course branch Rickey You know we know about bridging Jackie Robinson but I didn't take some time to sign money urban and Hank Hank Thompson and then of course with the Latin players he was. He's truly one of the pioneer so That's a great a great moment so I think that this is another thing that he should be given credit for. You know what surprises me about that? Here's a guy that was steeped. I guess you might say in the East Coast. And yet he comes out to the West Coast and he does something like this. What was the influence while waiting so comfortable doing that? Most people Certainly when they own something like the stay with what is being done. The norm that particular time. Are you talking about location? Or are you talking about his his his visionary ideas about players his visionary idea? I'm talking about stone of himself. I think he was a guy who wanted to win and he was truly colorblind. He didn't particularly care about many owners. As you know if you're studying history baseball late forties early fifties Were were quite reluctant to Signed black players and Never Mind Latinos and Stone. Just never felt that way. He felt that he wanted the best players you could get. And he was loyal to them. Some say to a fault Wonderful stories about stolen carrying contracts that are getting for a couple of years and rewarding people with better contracts because of the year they had in this sense he wasn't a great businessman but he certainly was the player first owner. How was he received? And how was the team received in San Francisco because I understand and talking to a lot of people in those early days because of I guess as you mentioned the the PC L. League and all the great teams there. They weren't really embraced were they. Well they were. I mean everybody kind of knew the wave was here. There was a sense of course of great history with the seals but the inevitability of Major League Baseball with something was on people's minds and it was a famous writer the editor Sports Department at the San Francisco Examiner. His name is curly grieve. In fact they named the press corps have the press room after him. In chemistry he started pioneering this effort in nineteen fifty and fifty three. And the lighters were on. You know behind this And when the giants came There was quite a bit of public assignment about king the writing And it didn't take too long in terms of fans for The turnstiles to be worrying if you will But there was a little reluctant to take on a New York team. They wanted the team to be their own team and Willie mays was was in some ways. The only superstar they had and he he received the kind of mild one one writer called Reticent for Reception I would say to the team as a whole was was enthusiastically walking but I think maze because he represents a New York They they didn't have the feeling in San Francisco was we don't need New York to tell us we're we're a big league city We feel we're we're we're all right to ourselves so but nonetheless they took to to the younger players very well by the time May Put in a few years With the giants he was. He was a native son and there was no restraint anymore. They admired him as a great player. He was yeah. That's what I was talking about and talking to Willie a number of times. He told me the same thing about those early days. Rob Garret is with us. I want you to check out this book. We're GONNA make it a selection of the month on the sports byline book corner. It's called home team. The turbulent history of the San Francisco giants and I guess when we talk about turbulence. Where does that come into the history of the giants? Well on one of the problems I think with the great success of the last. You know recent seventy eight years where the giants have been on top so often And the fan base is so secure and you have three million people coming through the ballpark almost every year. Since it opened in two thousand we forget that this was a very very rough period for the giants in many many years and They almost left town not once but twice and it was very precarious and the city. Relationship between the team of the city was fragile Nineteen seventy six. When stone went basically went broke. He needed to sell the team. The only offer to get no local stepped up. Toronto came and there was a dramatic moment. When when finally Bob Lurie Steph Oregon and check the team and getting ninety two when the team was sold to the Saint Petersburg Group again? No local owners at first and eleventh hour movement giants were out of town on their way and the city was going to lose. Its baseball team. That would've McGowan. Took over in ninety. Two one of their right. You might say first. Charges was to get the new ballpark. And they they worked hard at it and once they establish that of course things changed dramatically. Yeah of course. Part of that is the fact that Bob Murray tried to get funding for a baseball park in San Francisco. A COUPLE OF TIMES. It was rejected by the voters in San Francisco. It was rejected down in San Jose as well and it finally got built a new stadium because they build it with the the money. Mcgowan group And everything and I think that's one thing's probably turned for the San Francisco giants everything garage. Everything about the west of the early just had to do with with where where the team played the There was a lot of discontent with Polo grants for for stone. Hand Phil Malley. There was a lot of discontent with With ebbets field so the promise of new new ballparks was foremost in the minds of these owners and the giants took a quick fix. They went for candlestick location. That was very very poor The ballpark was a terrible place to play baseball. And they endured for forty years and their troubles really had a lot to do with where they played once they got established at. At and T. Things just dramatically turned around for in every respect success on field. Success at the at the turnstiles The the bottom line. The stability the franchise the connection with the city fan base is just remarkable and they In in early years seventy six storm had trouble connecting with a one year. They do less than Wall five hundred thousand people can through and in seventy five most internationally. So it's pretty tough and really was tough and it was a terrible stadium. There's no doubt about it. I mean for those people around the country and around the world. Listening there is the infamous story about Stu Miller. Windy do Miller getting blown off your I. I put I put it in the book this way and of course the I talk a lot about these these sort of a baseball war I say having to do with the elements that at the park and and and the most the most famous or infamous depending on your point of view is to Miller's balk at yeah and I say you know he might still be up there in the jet stream blowing around candlestick fashion. You know it was all kinds of things. Casey single one said he saw something in his fifty. Plus years of baseball that he'd never seen before during batting practice so rogue gusts picked up the batting cages puttering around and put it on the pitcher's mound. So these are these are moments. That are pretty strange indeed. We only have a minute left rob and I'm just wondering. Is there a way you can capsulize this book? What do you think you know? The readers will take away from it or you want them to well. I hope they take away a couple of things. One is that Walter. O'malley did not lead Horse Donen by the knows how to California style at him. In fact I decided much earlier than o'malley to move and I think that's one I talked about puts to rest. The other is the importance as I said. Before about how why ballparks were so crucial the both the dodgers and the giants and how the dodgers took their time didn't rush and how the city of San Francisco was so concerned about getting the location getting started that they really put the team more in jeopardy for a good long time and I. I think that's an important point in the final point. I guess is that given the success in in the way that the ball. The team is connected with with The city recently. How fragile this turbulence the word I use the title but how fragile that was for so many years. And what a great franchise giants are today. Well I WANNA thank you for writing the book since I sit here in San Francisco and been around for a good part of their history down here and also for coming on and talking about a congratulations rob. You're welcome here anytime on Sports byline. Iran. Thanks lots a pleasure talking with you. 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It's not gonNA equal anything for the Milwaukee brewers and that's Kinda thing about this you think that these teams that are spending nine figures on one single player that they've got world series there the one player away from the world series and they need that one player to get there and the bruise really. Just haven't been all that close one. I'm pretty sure I can do this from Vegas because I think they have like Internet there to to fifteen come back when you're three thirty two fifteen four Christian Yelich. It's the best that they're gonNA do in the thriving metropolis that is Milwaukee Charissa avert you ever heard of care sliver before watched him dropped fifty one on the ugly clad Boston Celtics at the garden on Tuesday night. No idea I wasn't even positive I was saying right. You didn't say it right. I said it that way Karras liver fifty one points. They didn't have Kyrie Irving At Boston gave the nets all kinds of business about it. They were up by thirty one point. 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Now here's JEN and Jeff. Talk to the hand. Everybody welcome back. Gandhi is solitaire. Three on sports overnight. America you'd be listening to us on Sirius. Xm Channel Two eleven for streaming live on iheartradio and catch archive shows on iheartradio. Just search for sports overnight America and we are always streaming live at sports byline dot com and Jen. I gotTa tell you I was not expecting to talk. Brewers I was not expecting to talk Christian Yelich on this particular evening but Milwaukee's ready to cut the check used to twelve and a half million this year. Fourteen million the next. And the brewers had the option whether they were gonNA give him fifteen million or buy him out for one and a quarter million. They wiped all that clean so for the next seven years. Ker Chanel is going to get two hundred and fifteen million dollars from the Milwaukee Brewers or whoever decides fixed contract? Josh should they trade him? He's twenty eight. He's twenty eight so this is kind of a risky deal assuming that it gets done You know he's GonNa be thirty five at the end of it premiers. Kinda behind him so you're paying for what he's done for you the last couple of years rather than white. You really think he's going to do for you. This is not four hundred million. This is not three hundred million mean two hundred yards but it's only seven because the three thirty was what thirteen years? The three will the four thirty. Oh yeah the three thousand three hundred right. Yeah and what was tried truck guy like four? Something ended up being way north to over thirteen years but much much longer amount of years but to let him a million dollars is almost the norm. This is you know he played was injured last year. He still played one hundred thirty games. I thought that he missed a lot more time. But the then injury must have happened later. Do you remember. Do I remember what the injury that he had? The injury was a foul ball off his knee. Okay so probably something. That's not likely to have plaguing itself towards something or crazy surgery. You're right. He's still finished second in the. Mvp votes he still won the batting title. He wasn't National League in Batting Average. Two years in a row in fact Three Twenty Six and three twenty nine as best two seasons. And you know those Milwaukee so he was sitting to eighty two in Miami and it's funny because he was playing with Zona and Giancarlo Stanton down there but the lineup in Milwaukee little more protection around him and you know he's he's been a decent player but I don't know that I mean you could say that it was kind a no brainer for the brewers. Because they just haven't had a player to his caliber. That's made that much of a difference. But you know for the Milwaukee brewers. I'm trying to look at his game logs here. They had Brown Road Brown for awhile. And he's still around but slightly tainted tainted what counts as tainted. I mean so. You've got the runner up to yell to bellinger in the MVP battle a year ago and again in two thousand nineteen he. He didn't miss that much time to to injury. He played right on through to any play basically every day. Didn't miss didn't actually miss all that much time. At all the fall off occurred. It's hard for me to even find it. It's hard for me to even find where where he missed the just at first glance but Hundred thirty out of one hundred sixty two games. He's given Milwaukee a lot over the last two seasons. He's been on the upswing but the Milwaukee brewers themselves are not old. They're not on the doorstep. They are you know. They need to add other player. They Dad's pitching their eighty nine seventy three last year. They were only a couple of games above the the the watermark. And you know. They went to the wildcard game. 'cause 'cause they didn't win the division over the cardinals they did lose to the eventual world champions Washington nationals. And by the way we're going to WE'RE GONNA visit teams like the nationals when we get to It's been awhile since we played played a game while since our last Trivia Tuesday night excited for that of course. Am So we're talking about relocated franchises. And we're not going to do the easy wants. We're not GONNA DO IS GONNA be all I'll Cleveland of Baltimore differently in fact I've got the I've got the Trivia Tuesday script right here at Cleveland Up Baltimore and Look Rondo Miami to Baltimore. It's it's just teamwork relocation entire. It seems not just building super teams. The teams yeah no Phoenix. No no Cleveland on the list. That doesn't take Baltimore. I mean I might ask you where the Baltimore stallions ended up moving in media you will. I will give you fifty bonus points right now. If you could tell me what the Baltimore stallions played in China. We are no points and they don't matter it's kind of like whose line is it anyways right exactly like. Whose line is it anyway. The Best Games are the ones where nobody understands the scoring system bike. Whose life is it anyway. Around the Horn horse racing. Boxing soccer soccer's nobody understands the scoring system soccer or the xfl points after touch duck did not watch an extra value Too Busy Vegas ing all weekend. You can catch any of it. He's literally. Tv is plastering every wall. Well the the sports. I didn't spend much time sports. I'm trying to figure out what exactly I did. I mean we went a baseball game. Saw the Indians lose went to hockey game? Watch the home team. Leaders full athlete have seen for the first time eating. We ate a Lotta food. Lots of eating a lot of this is the first time there was more eating drinking easily easily a lot more eating than old. You had a pancake the size of your head. I'm still eating that panic and you're still taking the week. Hash House go fifteen dollar pancake. I'm eating every damn bite of that thing. So I thought that the Vegas Buffets where open twenty four seven so we're go to the carnival rolled buffet at the Rio. I was to be right about. Yeah E. You. Will you ask me if I looked it up and you know? Of course. They didn't like like most things on this particular show and we ended up playing being into something pretty nice the Hash House ago. Definitely it could fall back at at the Rio Hotel. Of course we will problems getting to the Rio. There's apparently another Rio on the in downtown Vegas off a freeman poorly planned trip. It was poorly planned trip. the NFL labor deal. I thought that it was a no brainer. That seventeen game stupid. But now you've got some of the lesser players trying to speak up because they don't have three million twitter followers and try to say you know maybe we should take a little bit more money. Maybe we should deal with this seventeenth game and you know if you're making the league. Minimum Salary is the League minimum divided by Sixteen Games. And you get a game check every week. So you are adding one sixteenth of your salary on top of the full sixteen sixteen salary and some of these guys saying maybe they'll take it so there might be some fighting in the ranks in the NFL. But this isn't affecting guys like Tom Brady. And Derrick Henry. Who are free agents? Tom Brady allegedly on the move. I'm GONNA go with. I will believe it when I see it. And it's a little bit about it and you got scores on the other side spurs big winners with a I face Leading the bench. She's Jen. I'M JEFF. It's all territory. This is sports overnight. America won't be right back. Drives wanted right center field. We are as relatives on his way to second mixed the terror. Third ex-rebel cycle for Christian. Yelich you're listening to foul territory if you or a loved. 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Eight hundred four to six to three zero one. Eight hundred four to six to three zero one. That's eight hundred four to six twenty three o one talking about the defense contributing offensively throughout tonight's game and Alex colleague ask. He gets a chance to the shootout mark's now up top cyber say the same except for lead. Gen rich here reminding you to catch my husband. Jeff and I- weeknights at ten on foul territory. Jeff the playoffs and ultimately the championship game or series are generally the biggest draw to the sport. You get some of the more casual observers to tune in for the postseason. What do you think the most intriguing playoffs are? And what do you think of the research tweaking? We've seen discuss college. Basketball has the ultimate tournament. And that's a sport where you've got an inventory of three hundred team so sixty eight teams is not that big a deal. Not so sure what I think of the play in games surly. I think the season supposed to play into the tournament. I think that it's a way that we can take some of these lesser conference champions of these teams Kinda steal their conference tournament. They go maybe fifteen and seventeen during the regular season. We've seen worse. But they tend to put those teams invading on Tuesday and Wednesday. And I don't think that that's necessarily fair to those programs. Put those programs that are automatic qualifiers on Thursday and Friday I. The playoffs are concerned. I think it's the NFL. And I think that it's perfect the way that it is. I don't care for the tweaking and football I don't care for the tweaking in basketball and baseball I think that ten teams is enough out of thirty. I think twelve out of thirty two is enough. We already have sixteen thirty sixteen out of thirty one in basketball and hockey. I don't like it but it's always. That's Jeff Rich and I'm JEN rich. Reminding you to tune into foul territory Monday through Thursday at ten PM Pacific on Sirius Xm to eleven and streaming live on sports byline dot com part of the sports overnight America Block on the sports byline live broadcasts at work picked off by ready to build trust funds. But in your home is your bottom scores. They chanted his commute. Fifteen minutes on the other side at three player gathered pocket number twenty three march to sell with Carlson offensive zone. And they're joined by Smith. Marsha I so looking long able to push it away vice against betting got coming with him on the rush period looking shots. Golf Brandon Terry. Three goals in two games where the Golden Golden Knights quit show. They put on up there. It's like a high school football game against your rival. If they ever twenty thousand people that cared about your high school football team. That's incredibly accurate. Because they had drumline marching through the stands leading up to the game. There's cheerleaders everywhere distraction. Showgirls there were some robots and Elvis impersonators yet Jeff Jeff Jeff Dunham going way too far with the bit which is grand for Jeff Dunham the troll quist. He did an entire stand upset. There's an entire motion. Picture was a fighter. I had some points. No it was fun. It was fun. It was fun seeing. How much locals are into it and one thing that I really noticed. John was the diversity. Psychic its reputation as being very Caucasian. Is Sport Canadian a Very Caucasian occasion Canadians? But I'll tell you what man Las Vegas it's such a melting pot. I mean you you consider everybody that lives there full-timer everybody that works the Strip. It come from all over the world and this is their team. You know they they. They have the one team. They're on the really dedicated to talk a lot of Vegas Here on the at the top of the hour. But let's let's get some other things that we got charissa vert. You hadn't heard of him. I hadn't heard of him Celtics. Probably add nerd of him because they didn't notice just running by him. Lighten him up for fifty one points big comeback for the Nets Celtics look ugly and like you know I try not to get you caught up in uniforms and I get that the kids like we're on the alternative uniform. I don't say anything about the College Football College basketball uniforms for you know the Celtics really had. I don't like the Celtics I don't like getting bosses for you but the Celtics have really nice uniform both home and away you either. The green with the white lettering or the white with the green muttering. And you know it says Celtics on the home and away jerseys early gum up the works. I did it with you know trying to do the black jerseys with the green writing in the Green Jerseys and now they got these gold. Uniforms are just kind of look. Like kind of look like what you'd expect to find in like Mexican like bazaar or Middle Eastern bizarre where they send stuff that They didn't win the championship. So licensed gear. This doesn't look like it's gear but they're wearing it on the floor. It's looks so stupid. I mean it's definitely better than the black and green ones yet. They should only wear the white and green and the green and white. That's all Boston should wear. So you know. We don't think it's that bad. It looks like perpetual Saint Patrick's Day but there's a celtics what he want. I want them not to look stupid. I don't want the Yankees wary worry blue tops and I don't want the as inspecting clovers to be all over. It's like you've you've really kind of built it up like it was is it Saint Patrick's day super bad. Well Yeah Yeah. If they were wearing like Gucci style uniforms I would have even bigger problem with terrible but no. It is not Saint Patrick's Day inside Saint Patrick's Day so they've won these a lot if one of these like they're like they're the regular uniform but I guess you've already sold you know so many old Bill Russell Era Larry Bird Era Jersey said maybe need to mix it up. I I consider me old by you. WanNa get the Gordon Hayward one 'cause cheapest right now coordinate busy. The cheapest of the Goldens are the cheapest period of the alternate green goals. If she wants to hear things prosser just hasn't been able to put it all together. They see that they have a good coach. I could see that. They've found the way to get good players. But you know you could say that. They've won a championship. But that was back in two thousand eight. It's it's twenty twenty now brooklyn the Brooklyn has no identity as the nets. Yeah but that's we're that even Jersey. They were blue and grey and red. Nobody really cared about him. Nobody Chris Christie said good riddance when they When they moved to Brooklyn and now they've got kind of like feeding that graffiti style. Jurors I I actually liked what Brooklyn was wearing because Brooklyn doesn't have any tradition. So they're creating it what they're doing right now is what the. Hell is building the foundation. The Celtics already out of the Foundation Celtics are like the twenty seventh floor and now they're trying to build sky walks and they don't need to do that. It's rice tradition. Goes out like it would have to like it. Either your about this thing with Spike Lee New York Knicks. They're most notorious fan since airy new stuff about Spike Lee. While he's not GonNa go to the Knicks Games this year because ownership surprise James Dolan. The idiot has had a problem with the way that he's been entering the Games he says it will have a VIP entrance which all arrive VIP's years and he wants to use it in slightly once using employee entrance. Now they're the problem with this yet. Yeah implemented started the air. You don't just decide on game. Sixty six that spike Lee can't use this entrance. And am I gonNa Miss Spike Lee on the on the sidelines? Know why because I don't watch next games? niche games the Knicks. The Knicks are the Knicks. Are This thing that is supposed to be better than it is. So it gets archives attention. This is how I would feel about the coverage of the browns. Get if I weren't a die. Hard Cleveland Browns. On the Knicks are the Knicks. Are What Matt Damon? The Knicks are Matt Damon. Movie to me. Only those movies were a little bit worse. 'cause they're built up to be like something special at. It's the same boring thing year in and year out. The Games go on for way too long so management instead of the instead of handling this right way they they mock him and they mocked the situation in their in their press. Release they take an old picture. Spike Lee shaking hands with the owner of the team players aren't gonNA mess him. The fans aren't going to miss him. Fans wouldn't miss the Knicks of F. They moved out of New York. If the ARC suddenly basketball team so you give the the the the knicker sonics they could be the Seattle knicker sonics and they can play a few games at Madison Square Garden. They're just such a joke of a franchise. Maybe they need to lose their team for a few years so that somebody puts it together. They're not. That's what happened with Cleveland. And Not that. It's worked out at all with the knockoff. Football chapter there. That's been back since nineteen ninety nine. I shared this joke with you. I'm not sure that too. Many people are going to quote unquote. Get it but Steph. Curry was supposed to come back on March first delayed his return. And I I don't have the tweet is named out here but I. I did sure it's my facebook. Feed that Steph. Curry blew a three one return date. It's it's pretty good. I I know that you're not on this in the same place with a three one jokes. About three hundred jokes are still funny but my three one jokes involved the Indian. So because you don't have any jokes it's just something that happened. There's not like this big joke around it. It was a it was a copy cat thing with with cubs fans like you can just enjoy one hundred eight years of the world series. We just had listened to you guys all summer. Long tells you all. This is basketball the basketball all summer long laughing at Golden State about blowing a three one lead along comes October. November played series. Stay was about how it was a man's game and how somebody got their feelings hurt totally different apples to dump trucks. She's John. I'm John Trout Chair three at sports overnight America and we'll be right back drawing traffic. Who's GonNa take the shot tatum? Haywood is having something. This is sports overnight. America magic trick. We are the debt destroyer network. 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San Antonio is now one three in a row and taken over the age spots in the western province. You're listening to foul territory with Jeff and Jenrette GAM. Now you're talking buddy. Welcome back yet. It is foul territory right here on the sports byline broadcast networks can catch. Us Live at ten. Pm Pacific Time right through until midnight. Pacific Time. Monday through Thursday. You get Jen and I you're surely Jeff Ridge on the microphone and Joey didn't get to this while we're talking. That'd be a got caught up in in three one verbiage by we've got We had an opportunity for the San Antonio Spurs. You're not drinking out of this particular evening. But I I know that you do have a Spurs Tumbler somewhere around the studio here and the follow the steam. You're familiar with the legendary. Tim Duncan and the Innovative Gregg Popovich and his lead assistant coach. Becky Hammon top misses the Gaming Charlotte on Tuesday for quote unquote personal reasons in the Internet is up in arms. 'cause it was. Tim Duncan the assistant coach. And now Becky Hammon. Who's been there for years? Lead assistant since two thousand fourteen says twenty four key so six years six years five years plus so it it's Dunkin. Doug Duncan actually filled in for pop back in November and the claim was that he had scouted the team he was most familiar pop gotti jacket and Dunkin takeover. Nowhere took over so he did it for a little bit. They lost one twenty one to one sixteen in that game but also he was a loser in his first win as a head coach because he has had coached previously to now that they lost for he coached He goes just one wire-to-wire and even he claimed that Heaven and hardy. The coaches made all the causes. You know obviously being becky. Hammon made all the calls and he just stood there and yelled at the players that he wasn't going to address the media half the game which which he actually did do and everyone was upset. This game back in Carolina where Dunkin played his college ball week for us. I'm not sure if he's from there but he did plays college while they're so a homecoming of sorts. Let's see you on this because because Gregg Popovich didn't want to hear any of it. I think Gregg Popovich said something along the lines of You know I'm not here to make history something that effect and I hear this. I'm not here to make. History is what he said no question about having to the Washington Post. I get that it could be a little bit of a distraction especially last minute. Fill in like this. But were you with this. He's from the Virgin Islands. Tim Duncan Okay but okay so this has happened it was on a whim one Putty jetted in November this one. Obviously they kind of had a little bit of a plan that they were going to put him in no. He has not been coaching in any capacity since. Twenty fourteen Ever however he wore a spurs uniform for nineteen years so I think maybe we give them a try and for all we know. Maybe the next time pop has to. I don't know sell one of his cars offer. Whatever personal business. He's conducting. Maybe they plan on letting Beki have a shot at it. Who knows this one instance? I think maybe it's not fair to you. Know to put the team and to put her under the microscope. Wayne you know this is a last minute kinda thing. Even if she's even if she's doing everything other than your blowing the whistle. You know having the clipboard. She's going to get a head coaching opportunity. She's going to be the first. Nba head coach. I was thinking it with the best that happened in Cleveland. Coming out of the All star break with Beeline Lindsay GOTTLIEB head. Coaching experience at At cal I was thinking that she might get the interim tag but I don't think that they WanNa do think that when a woman does get the job that they're going to have every opportunity to succeed which means neither one of those two ladies should or or any other female should take the next job when it becomes inevitably open again I think. Form of protests. I think that there needs to be a you know that it needs to be a solid strange. I think that you need to give a female chance to succeed so that you don't end up with John V line situation where it's just not a good way. I think dad is what makes the most sense is promoting Vaki within when pop steps down even if Dunkin still there and I think the Dunkin would remain as head coach and I think that the players would play for La. There'd be any issues with that but I think you're absolutely right. You know when you consider that Becky Hammond has been there since two thousand fourteen. An assistant coach. Tim Duncan has been there since nineteen ninety seven. I don't know how long time of POPs been there for all of it by. He's obviously familiar with hop system. The players playing pop system. They're both familiar her from a L. You know from the assistant coaching perspective. Which gives her more of an intimate knowledge of Game Plan and strategy? And things like that. But Tim Dunkin's also there. I mean he's been there for five. Minutes is one. Somebody tweeted out or you know. Beckingham is not invisible and six for Popovich. That's when he took over the spurs ninety six ninety six so the year before Duncan so every championship. Okay so anyway that's That's the Hammond versus finding things to get mad about for the sake of getting mad. I this is more people than the spurs replace attributes. Yeah okay so we'RE GONNA play relocated team of this evening. All right. We know that the Winnipeg jets moved you. Arizona became the Phoenix. Coyotes who eventually became the Arizona. Coyotes we know that Winnipeg had their team replaced by the theme. That's no longer in Atlanta. Thrashers had moved to Winnipeg. So we're not going to give you any low hanging fruit. You've heard all about me talking about the browns moving to Baltimore Finger. Placements a knockoff. Expansion Team Aditya I. I pretty sure that you're familiar with the history. Colts moved to Indianapolis in the middle of the night from Baltimore. Yes so they lost their team. They added replaced by the browns and the browns. Actually we'RE NOT THE FIRST TEAM TO LEAVE CLEVELAND. The Cleveland Rams actually existed there before the browns came into the NFL in nineteen fifty the move to La in nineteen fifty to allow room for the browns blame the NFL. In Cleveland in nineteen fifty where they won the championship. I believe the only trip. But that's no that's part of Trivia. Tuesday's just everything's GonNa be from your lifetime. Which of course eliminated the opportunity to make our favorite Joke about the jazz moving to Utah. What are they don't allow music? Do you recall where they came from. You call the jazz city that they Write all over all over. Okay no those were pretty points but And you you didn't get any points. Five o'clock offered them get them so it was money that it was one hundred hundred bucks at that point or like a thousand bucks. Oh if it's off. We're just talking about fake money. Let's week and a half and a half mil with a for the first question. We gotta make sure we get these in all right so This Sacramento friend. The Sacramento Kings moved FRAUM VICINITY. Where they had to be renamed the Kings as to not be confused with the baseball team. That was also in town in one thousand nine hundred five. They moved from this city to Sacramento Kansas City. I've no one was expecting to get that. I don't think anybody was always there on. The BUZZER She knows there's a baseball team in Kansas City. Bonus follow up from nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy by by the way it was the cincinnati royals that moved there. They were formerly the Rochester. Royals and moved to Cincinnati royals moved to Kansas City where they couldn't be the royals anymore. Because you have the baseball team there. So what they split time with this. Nebraska city from one thousand nine hundred eighty two to nineteen seventy five. Kansas City kings were the Kansas city slash blank. Kings God the only have two cities. You're all over your Oliver Lincoln. All right never no question number two. The New Jersey devils moved East Rutherford in nineteen eighty two and they were formerly named of the same name. Azam existing baseball team from a mountainous region in the western United States coming in rockies all over Colorado rockies existed as hockey team before they just sort of. You probably didn't know that if all right strategy by LEMURS number three number three and two thousand five this Canadian franchise moved to Washington. Dc. After splitting time between their Canadian city and Saint Puerto Rico in two thousand three and two thousand four Canadians he moved to DC and became the nationals. Expos Expos three out of three three out of three plus the question which was only worth like six points so number number four the Houston oilers left to your staff. One thousand nine hundred sixty s and became the Tennessee oilers. They intended to play in this Tennessee city for two seasons before moving to their new stadium in Nashville in nineteen ninety nine but they only stayed there one year due to poor attendance which Tennessee city to the initially moved to Memphis. It is really support now. Well received at the Liberty Bowl Memphis where the University of Memphis Place. So they played hat. Everyone probably got the deal street and then just stopped there. They just got they actually had to play in Vanderbilt. Stadium in Nashville. Nineteen Ninety eight so that people would come out and watch the Tennessee oilers so the Tennessee oilers played in Memphis for years. Then they played in Nashville Vanderbilt Stadium. And then they became the titans in nineteen ninety nine and moved into their current stadium which was originally. Adelphia Stadium Nissan Stadium. Now all right this one promises to be a little bit more challenging super confusing you ready. That's that's kind of what I do ready if I say no I mean do we just have until I am ready you just ramble on about something else until I say. Let's just get a flirt with some bonus points out in front and then we're GONNA go anyway word it more difficult if you're not ready so since you already you already. I will be as clear and concise as possible the Charlotte Hornets. You remember them. They you know -til uniforms and they're back. They're back as the Charlotte Hornets so still hanging out. Yeah so they They left Charlotte after the two thousand two season move to New Orleans became the New Orleans Hornets and then in two thousand thirteen. The New Orleans Hornets became the Pelicans becoming the jazz again. Because Utah really likes that name. Apparently even though they don't like music music or alcohol about three point two percent or so there was actually a season where there were no hornets. All because New Orleans already the Pelicans and Charlotte in the meantime got an expansion team in two thousand and four. So what was the name of that expansion two kind of other stupid bird like a Charon or something the Charlotte is it the show not the Charlotte? They're the Charlotte bobcats. Now vaguely familiar to you. Were you were really awesome. You got five out of five points because you bonus question you got you gotTa Omaha Omaha. That's that's really awesome. I couldn't do but I kept everything in your lifetime and changes for. Let's quickly becoming a long amount of time. Yeah in fact the only baseball team to move your entire lifetime two thousand five the expos moving to Washington. Dc we're throat you break. That is Trivia Tuesday. Jen riches your winner. I'm your host Jeff. Rich will be back to wrap it all up right after the break into. You're listening to foul territory. Hi Dr Robert Clapper Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at Cedars Sinai Medical Group in Los Angeles California dedicated to your health. Your life and your sports as a weekend warrior. You know about sports injuries and pain exercises important element and keeping your body's core in good shape to minimize sports injuries. But when you are in pain there is one product. I recommend to my patients and that is blue. Google blue consists of proprietary formula. Developed specifically for the treatment of inflammation and general muscle aches. 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They're not gonNA play him at all and I say good riddance to the Olympics altogether and finding that all right. What's everybody watching on Wednesday pizzas bucks visas and bucks on Aspen? And I'll tell you what the Miami Heat just incredibly great at home this season. Twenty six and four. They knocked off the bucks the other night but I expect the bucks to bounce back gets pace against the blazers. And we'll see the Blazers in Phoenix on Friday night for Gen rich. I'm Jeff Rich. This van all territory on sports overnight. America stay tuned for more sports coming up next hour on the sports byline guest networking. You're listening to sports overnight America. Talking about the analytics. Gps technology don't try to throw the game back in nineteen ninety eight where the rubber meets the road. Actually I'm not even sure what that means. Speed Radio Network. Live at heart. Fees DOT COM. 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Mike Cohen reports for pianists in recent months of National Latino groups said they didn't receive any feedback from certain candidates when submitting surveys or trying to schedule meetings Francisco. Segovia runs an outreach group in the twin cities says after trying to get more Latinos to participate in elections. He is found. It's not always a priority for them because they feel ignored. I realized that I wasn't alone. That often times People running for office are not connecting with our communities. Segovia says while it may take some time for his demographic to become convinced to participate in elections. That doesn't mean major candidate should avoid them. According to the Pew Research Center thirty two million Latinos could be eligible to vote this fall. The report says that would be a record and would exceed the number of eligible black voters for the first time the same Pew Research Center Survey found that more than seventy percent of Latinos favored the government playing a larger role in providing healthcare. A majority also said they supported Surkov. Laws COLORADO'S FIT communities stepping up efforts to ensure that historically undercounted racial and ethnic minority Collins Participate in the twenty twenty cents. Auxiliary Bishop Or. Hey Rodriguez with the Catholic archdiocese of Denver says all people regardless of race religion or immigration status are made in God's image and deserve to be counted. He sees participation as a moral obligation because of the impact it will have on programs. Families rely on this. What is at the heart of the senseless? It's not about numbers is about how this numbers will help us to put in place programs. According to those numbers according to those families and children long standing and largely substantiated distrust of government remains one of the biggest barriers for participation among communities of color and faith leaders are reminding residents that all personal information collected in the census is confidential and cannot be shared with other government agencies. I'm Eric Gladys this month. The Census Bureau will send out invitation by mail to every household Colorado received thirteen billion dollars a year in federal funding based on census numbers. This is p. s. the FDA has recently approved a new heat doubt burn tobacco product. It's called I coss for sale in the US but some Kentucky Public Health officials say consumers are being left in the dark when it comes to knowing what the side effects long term health risks of the new products are Elizabeth Andersen Hoaglund of the Kentucky Department for Public Health Notes. The tobacco industry is focused on creating more high tech purported alternatives to traditional cigarettes. The more products introduced in the marketplace. The more confused the public is going to be. Because how do you keep freight what tobacco product is? What what the side effects are what the consequences of youth are she says low income Kentucky inns tend to disproportionately used tobacco products according to the latest state data forty six percent of low income adults and forty two percent of those with less than a high school education currently smoke cigarettes. I'm Nadia Ramlogan. These States Department of Public Health currently runs three quit line services it also offers. Free Nicotine. Replacement therapy for people are uninsured or on. Medicare. We need a sweat bill. Now that's the message. Workers delivered to Governor Cuomo Monday in New York. 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The State Board of Land Commissioners also known as the Land Board decides on issues that affect state owned public lands. It's made up of five members holding statewide offices including Governor and attorney general head of Aaron Murphy Says Support For. Protecting public lands was critical for their endorsement. Public lands are part of a seven billion dollar per year outdoor recreation economy. So we're not just talking about conservation issues. We're talking about strengthening our economy. Mcv also looks for candidates to acknowledge the threat of climate change and the importance of clean air water and abundant wildlife. Last month's Colorado College Poll Shows Folks Montana to factor in the environment. Clean air water while life in public land's important when deciding who to support I Mike Clifford for public news service. We ARE REMEMBER. Listener supported online at public service DOT. Org here on the sports byline broadcast network. Jeff Rich here with you from Phoenix Arizona. I'm joined in studio just about each and every night by my wife Jen rich. And we've got a special topic to discuss with you here. This hour Janet. I recently spent some time in Las Vegas. Not EXACTLY THE FIRST CITY. That comes to mind when you're talking about locations for professional franchises but it is a big deal in the world of sports primarily because of the gambling aspect but they're also hosting events go beyond just the price fights anymore posting regular season hockey. Stanley Cup final in there the first year that they had the National Hockey League there in Cincinnati and Minor League Baseball always going on college tournaments in basketball gotten a little bit bigger march madness. It's the place to be Super Bowl Sunday. It's the place to be for. Not Sports related reasons. New Year's Eve it is also the place to be add. Really you know if you're doing it right jen wherever you are it is the place to be. I miss it Miss Las Vegas. You're not a degenerate gambler. No I just like fright pretty flashing lights and people watching and there are plenty of that going up there. They've had they're about to get there are about to be the future. Home of the raiders are the current home of the NHL. Las Vegas Golden Knights Experience. Check out a hockey game up there. That was insane. No hockey game will ever be the same. And you can understand the hype when people talk about it but until you live it you don't truly understand everything that's going on they've always had UNLV They've had NASCAR track. They hosts Golf Tournaments. Of course they host UFC and they host boxing the host the conference tournaments but now they're getting a football stadium. They're going to have the national football league which means that they can host super bowl pro bowl They're gonNA host the draft here in April of twenty twenty and who knows what the future holds as far as the NBA and Major League. 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However you'll get Jim Monday through Thursday right here however you're listening right now and right now. We are talking about the city of lost wages. Las Vegas Nevada and it just brings a smile. Your face the very mention of Las Vegas. Sports ties are are quite obvious. There's a sportsbook in every casino where you could bet on the games that are happening that night or you could bet on. Futures. What's going to happen later on? Of course there's anything that you can conceivably put a wager on Las Vegas lessening the ready to take your money and they're a little less willing to shell it back out if you do. Guess right or wager correctly. I feel that they've had a lot. But you've really gotta try like I'm never going to be a millionaire playing those pennies slots that I love so much. I'm excited when I went twenty dollars but I'm never going to win thousands of dollars on my penny slots and I'm Never GonNa win a lot sitting down playing poker for an hour and a half at a time. There is the pros or pros is because they go and they spend hours on end at the at the table sessions Poker used to be a big fat back in two thousand two thousand three two thousand five it hit its peak where every time deck and area that played online believed that they could be the next world series of poker champion just because some online online player did take it home. Chris moneymaker back in two thousand and three but It takes a lot of things a lot of patience and it takes a lot of losing to get you where you can be professional poker player professional gambler. The the guy from the jeopardy greatest of all time was able to pull it off the greatest of all time jeopardy. But it's got a pretty good life Dave's able to move to Las Vegas and become a professional gambler poker because it involves entirely too much paying attention and following what is there like checking in doubling or whatever. I don't even know going down Chadwell poker and I know I'm out well. It's all math. Oh all gambling is math. Understanding point spreads its understanding. You know situations how points scored. That's what I think that the xfl is an interesting element that you add into the lexicon of things that you can wager on because it's football but it's it's a new dynamic to football because touchdowns could be worth anywhere from six to nine points. That's a that's a huge variance. You've got to figure out what team and you gotta figure it out from nothing. What teams are good from two yards out from five yards out from ten yards out? How these kids are you know that that failed to the point where that they make it in the NFL? There's a lot to take into account It's the same way with blackjack similarly poker and like it or not. It's the same way with your slot. Machines Roulette The rolls of the dice. You know crafts. It's all just chances all numbers and it's all figuring out what those numbers mean and the the common man can't do it no and that's why they keep building those buildings up there in southern Nevada. But that's not why like gambling is part of it but I the food. The food the lights the people watching just so much to do sports and your clover either no. I'm not really much of a club either. I mean I will dance anywhere but I'm not paying someone fifty dollars to go into a room and dance with other people were. I'M GONNA pay like two hundred dollars for a bottle of vodka driver. Do you remember that time? Where inappropriate for entry to the club. That was ever one in. Vegas was actually with money. That was not mine that was supposed to be buying new shoes. Just drunkenly on like twenty six. Maybe relabel possibly. I don't even know decided it'd be ended up the only time I've ever won one hundred bucks and we pretend like it was like a million. Let me tell the story here. Because we're we're giving this without context is that you and I met some friends at the club but some friends up in Vegas that subsequently invited us to the club and they looked at you and they said come on and they looked at me and they said there was no way and and to be fair I was wearing open toed sandals and to be fair I wasn't even wearing shoes and might not even had a top on who knows so we were giving cab fare to go back to the hotel and put on appropriate footwear and we walked so we pocketed that cab fare and I think that that's where we were able to finance the rest of our evening because we see what we can do because we went on foot and we gambled away the the cab fare so anyway moving on a few things to get you Las Vegas. I have actually had actually caught US pouring that in Vegas prior to the NHL arriving there We saw the cubs play the mats in Spring Training in Twenty fifteen. Now at the old ballpark at cashman field which was right off the strip. Your thoughts on on the old ballpark down there. I liked it. It had a much Victory Field Finger Lawn. There was more seats but isn't as park is building one thousand nine hundred ninety four the Las Vegas Stars who were San Diego. Padres affiliate the franchise itself had started out in nineteen nineteen as part of the Pacific Coast League than the Portland Beavers. In one thousand nine hundred seventy three they. They moved to spokane where they were the spokane Indians and then I got to move to Las Vegas in one thousand nine hundred eighty three at the newly built cashman field where they competed as Las Vegas Stars part of the Pacific Coast League San Diego's AAA affiliate from Nineteen Eighty. Three to two thousand in two thousand one. The dodgers took over and rebranded the stars to be the Las Vegas fifty ones so for two thousand one to two thousand eight the dodgers AAA affiliate was the Las Vegas Fifty one plate at Cashman field in Las Vegas in two thousand nine. The Toronto Blue Jays briefly or the parent club of this triple a franchise from twenty two thousand nine to two thousand twelve and then from two thousand thirteen to two thousand eighteen. Which is why they were hosting a game. They're playing against the cubs who had a guy in their in their system named Kris Bryant. Who was from where Las Vegas? Hey phenomena how it all comes full circle so watch the public's way the mets there in two thousand fifteen the mets would only play there for another couple of seasons in two thousand nineteen. The the Oakland he's took over the Las Vegas Franchise with the mets moving their AAA affiliate to Syracuse. And the as decided that they weren't going to be the fifty one's anymore. They didn't know what they were going to be right. No there was a long period of time where they didn't know what to name a team. I think they actually held a fan contest to name the new team. And what did they land on a ended up on the aviators ended up being the Las Vegas Vietor so the competed for one season as the Las Vegas? Aviators there at the new Vegas Ballpark It's pretty far out. It's it's not exactly right off the strip like cashman field was I have ever been in that part of Las Vegas because it was pretty closer by the mountains. Those wins were pretty wicked within down at the end of the game. But I don't think we've been in Vegas before and we've experienced the winds being you know kind of out there were nothing else is around in Arizona with goodyear with surprise that. There's just nothing to stop the wind other than the mountains. Off in the distance we didn't see any spaceships landing. I don't know if we were close to area fifty one and Las Vegas or the United States government wanted the team not to be the fifty one's anymore. Take the attention off of whatever's going on behind come and take our fifty once gear from us and like wave a little men in black like this never happened. Oh that's right we pick up LAS VEGAS fifty one zero one. We were up there in because we knew they were reaching the end really end. We're coming up on the end of it but We'll we'll pick it up a little bit more about our Las Vegas ballpark experience. Watch the Oakland Athletics. And Cleveland Indians Place of Exhibition Baseball. The reds and the cubs are going to do battle up there as well. She's General Jeff. It's foul territory on sports overnight America. You're listening to the sports byline broadcast network and we'll be right. Back is sports overnight America. What a fly somewhere looking for flights or cheap tickets then call. That's right call. The low cost airline travel hotline now for prices so low. We can't publish them anywhere. 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Staffy with Tatar puck kept alive by the Golden Knights Marketer across opportunity for our our stars. What Does Vegas Will You Act Ready? You're hooking into foul territory. Now here's Jen and Jen and fish. Welcome back in everyone. It is the Vegas our on foul territory. This part of the sports overnight America Block on sports byline show airs live at ten. Pm Pacific Time seven nights a week but you only get yours truly jeff rich and over on the couch. We have generally get us four times a week. That's Monday through Thursday nights at the Archives on Iheart Radio and gentlemen pick it up right where we left off talking about baseball in Vegas Talking about the Las Vegas Ballpark. The Las Vegas Aviators and Mubarak new ballpark versus old ballpark definitely upgrade and we've got The as which you know depending on how you look at it upgrade or downgrade from the New York mets as a parent club There's a lot of runs that are going to be scored out there. When the winds blowing it's certainly blowing hard. It is and it was cold. It got cold really fast dropped. Probably about fifteen degrees from game star to game end gusts were about thirty miles per hour when we left any comparison. It's a AAA BALLPARK. In comparison with other AAA ballparks. I'd say it's pretty Nice in facing with some of the nicer spring training parks that we have down here in the Phoenix market. I would say that. It kind of pales in comparison. You don't want to do too much with a minor league ballpark. They had a nice balance there though there outfield wisely instead of just having a whole bunch of grass that maybe nobody's GonNa sit on. They had half of it as grass. Where you can sit out in the berm and the other half of it was a little pool or the the other half of the right center. Field area in the left field was Kinda like it is at Oracle Park in San Francisco Where it's a walkway where you can stand over on top of the taller wall out there in left field at I think for Minor League Baseball You know comparing it with what we have to go against Albuquerque Reno Tacoma you know. I think that it's par for the course that it's nicer because it has las Vegas but it's not so nice that you like a little too much minor league baseball field like we had. Oh we did a rough. Riders was double a doctor wicked part. They like a water park in their parking. I mean the pool is unique. Let's undersell the The the pool that they've got of course it's going to be limited access. It's not a public. You know certain inning and then my carry on your way. You're going to run out the whole thing for the game and nobody was swimming in February and early March up in Las Vegas. I said addicted cooler in all fairness it only was sixty five to begin with. But it's sixty five and sunny and it was about fifty an hour and a half later. It was fifty drizzling. And the coldest Gamblin's you've ever felt before in the time that it's a to get from our seats behind me. Third Base Dugout to wrapping ourselves around the left field goal. It went from probably fifty eight degrees to forty five degrees. If you're with us to curl up in just just call it like. Do you want to just curl up together and just freeze to death like? Is that how you wouldn't go because that's how cold it felt. Charlotte through my brother for his presence. Saving our life there. Apparently all right so a lot of y'all WANNA sock. Unlv basketball was good. Once upon a time. That was the only thing that they really add going on in town. Played at the Thomas and Mack Center which I've not seen and their football team late at Sam Boyd Stadium. Football teams never been anything to speak of However their basketball program in the early nineties F- Boy Jerry. Tarquinio eighty nine got onto the elite eight in one thousand nine hundred ninety. They wanted all the beaten Duke by thirty in the National Championship. And then in ninety one dude got their vengeance as to see coming out of the Midwest Our party they beat them by two points in the final four and I think you went on to win the championship game in one thousand nine hundred ninety one and then the program probation because a small school in Las Vegas shouldn't get that good that quickly so something was up. They had a lot of NBA players on that team. They haven't had many NBA players. Ever since Shawn Marion comes to mind. They played an all star game. There in I believe it was two thousand seven it was an NBA All Star game and they finally got professional two years ago three years ago with the hockey of all things and it was kind of a shock that Las Vegas got a hockey team before basketball team or football or baseball team. Were doing really anything else. Hockey seems like it was the least likely thing to land itself in Vegas but there we were yeah I. I'm really glad that's what they chose because that was fantastic. But that was incredibly weird they built a nice arena. Right off the Strip right behind the New York New York casino off of fifteen and the Tropicana Tropicana Boulevard down the street from the Tropicana Hotel and casino. And it's it's kind of amazing I I. It's in your face when you're in front of it but just being a half mile away it gets hidden behind the buildings we see the lights of. T. Mobile arena sticking out between like two of the buildings. And the only way you see that it's there and you see it from the Tropicana sinuses through the hotel in the parking garage like hey arena. This way. We kind of followed a bunch of people know. Considering how the casinos you know go out of their way for the reveal the market themselves to you and it looks nice when you're looking at it from the right angle but when nothing's going on there it's Kennedy Kennedy eerily quiet over there You were back in the in the room My brother and I wandered through the MGM. Casino crossed the bridge in New York New York. And really what I wanted to. You know what I was trying to get you when we started to and my brother and I was the rollercoaster at New York New York because of seeing the traps for it. I've just never seen. Were you catch it? And how go about doing that but they rip you off with a really this roller coaster? We've never gone up to the arcade level of New York. We have to walk through this Sotero Arcade which is a good. You know it is an actual kid. Arcade this isn't like an adult arcade. 'cause you're in Vegas? It is a part of the casino that is designated to be like Carnival Games and rides and stuff for children talk through higher arcade. And then you have to buy a package which includes some arcade amenities along with a single rollercoaster ride. But you know the fact that you started forty five dollars ahead. That's a little bit much for what can't be more than three or four minute ride on the rollercoaster. I don't even think big giant roller coasters are three or four minutes. I think the biggest ones theme parks are like a minute and a half this one has. I mean it's tiny. It's the size of a third of a casino. It's a small roller coaster. It can't be more than like thirty seconds. Probably they do. They do take multiple APPS. It's tiny there's because of that reason I don't trust it either. I've I've never wanted to ride the roller coasters in the Vegas Casinos. Because they just don't come in crazy. I just don't trust rollercoaster. That are inside of casinos. Doesn't spell a good time for me. But beyond that arcade walk across the bridge to the parking garage that sits behind New York New York. I guess that would be to the West to the last and you walk out. You know you go down. The escalator outside the parking garage and you are in the plaza for T. mobile arena. When we went there the night before the game when nothing was going on we had car. We were the only two souls with within shouting distance statue. They have in the middle of the plaza. There's a statue in the middle of the presents a weird. It's like a naked lady made out of wire like a giant naked lady made out of wire in the middle of the planet. You didn't see them. I guess all ladies made out of Wire Diamond Dozen Vegas. You didn't see that. No I have no recollection that we've ever seeing seeing a sports arena and I guess that's what What drew my eye. But the next you know however the next night when you're there were there. Were people walking down Tropicana Las Vegas Boulevard in all their gold nights gear like three hours before the game. It was four thirty in the afternoon. The puck drop was at seven thirty and I also saw the ticket. Something called Nighttime K. And I G H T time Started a half hour before the game. Now you were surprised by it all together though you may have been taken back by the pageantry took place From the second that we set for in the arena Questioned the fact that The Golden Knights have cheerleaders. Because you don't see that all I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that you don't see that all over hockey y'all have cheerleaders by Pommie that run around the stadium which they did do there but there is also a platform on the behind the net on the one level in the upper corner of the stadium. The fortress where it's just a constant stage of blue man group and cheerleaders and men being swords and showgirls hanging out. I mean we walked in and there were ladies with pompoms. There was a drum corps and there was a night in full armor leading the charge of your. Let's go nights And this is forty five minutes before the game because I got there earlier. Figured tickets like an hour before the game. Yeah Yeah just just didn't take us very long to get there because it was a short walk to begin with but we didn't encounter like hordes of people walking slowly. It's like no time to get their incredibly convenient to get their walking through New York New York. Because you know if you're there during hockey season you have the means. Please attend Las Vegas Golden Knights Hockey Game. Even your favorite sport it is just an experience To to take in and you know ticket and just watch the beginning. Watch the half an hour before the game starts and then just leave your only talk. I you know I. I've seen what they what they are on the broadcast for the playoff games. But I didn't know that that kind of thing happened during the. That's just what they do every game. There's there's a Susan motion picture. There's like a whole motion picture that they play beforehand and then a bunch of guys get on the ice and sword fights and there's fire glitter rockets and it's everything you would expect out of Las Vegas or more on the Golden Knights on the other side and we're GonNa talk about the biggest aspect that Vegas plays in sports and it is the gambling aspect. She's Jen. I'm jeff this install territory. You're listening to sports overnight. America on the sports byline broadcast network. We'll be right back stories. The type of guy that wants to look put together but doesn't want to spend hours at the mall finding new clothes so he can look great at the office on the road or even just on the weekend with friends and family I hear you. This is why they're stitch. Fix Your personal. Styling service delivers handpicked. Close right to you stitch. Fix a simple sign up in just a few minutes. 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I guess that's New York but they'll sleep much in Las Vegas either and that's what we're actually focused. I'd Talk About the Las Vegas Golden Knights a little bit before the break a lot before the break and we never actually got into the hockey game itself. Because we're talking about the the night fighting. Do some things that are a little bit campy with the cheerleaders out on the town but everything else is like vegas-style. It's it's a little bit bigger a little bit more of a show the you know the pyrotechnics the just the excitement in the arena for a regular season game on Sunday night in February versus like the worst team in the western conference versus the worst team in the West that that team is the L. A. Team so there's a lot of La presence in Vegas. It's a short drive by. I imagine that they have their share of La Transplants. Just like we do here in the Valley of the Sonnen Phoenix Arizona and not none empty seat in the house. No not one. 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Pete Sweeney joins 610 Sports Radio's The Drive ahead of the NFL's Scouting Combine

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Pete Sweeney joins 610 Sports Radio's The Drive ahead of the NFL's Scouting Combine

"Drive everybody, Brad fanning Brandon, Kylie, cdot dot has the day off today stick it's the negro leagues baseball museum, which by the way, if you never been down there you need to get down there. The cool thing about that place. You go down see something every time. I love it down. There. Also, see dot B. Bob, kendrick. Yeah. Bob's the oh, I guess they're talk baseball with Bob Kendrick, all the time. But yeah. So there he's gone today. Brinkley's fill in and now, we've got the one and only Peter Sweeney editor in chief of era had pride in studio today. I heard you or not this morning early this afternoon. You're all about the downtown stadium. I appreciate that. So y'all of that too. I would love that. But I'm not again, I'm not a Kansas City. I'm I'm willing to I'm willing to Pete. The possibility because you've got the greatest minds in the in the world when it comes to sports architecture here in Kansas City. Don't tell me aero head. You do that. No, not God. No. You gotta leave at stake. More. I think baseball with the backdrop it just feels like it's time. Yeah. I think it's time. Maybe that's the best way to put it feel. It feels like it's time to have that discussion. So piece witty and studio for the next thirty minutes. Talking cheese football. He is the editor in chief of aero head pride. I want to start you off with this one of my favorite off-season NFL Aussies chiefs offseason. Thanks to do is to keep an eye on Patrick Mahomes on social media. So there was this video from the forward star telegram and Mahomes took his puppy to the gym are. Yeah. So he's the you know, what happened to the rest of us took a dog the gym. They're calling the cops get thrown out a call an animal control. No doubt. Does it? He can do it in Mahomes on a beach in LA with his girlfriend and two other girls modeling his gear now as well. We're gonna get to the point where it's we're getting Mahomes lash like like Bush last from Jerry Maguire, he certainly feeling himself. I think a little bit more than he he was last offseason. And he's a twenty three year old. Of the National Football League. So I think you kind of expect that but you are starting to see a little bit. I wouldn't say jealousy. I think that would be stretching it, but you are starting to see little nudges on social media with Tyree kill joking about hey, can you push my gear? Anthony, Sherman tweeted the other day. Hey, by the way, we're working out to just in case anyone else's worried about it. So there are these little nudges from these teammates. I am wondering what version of Patrick Mahomes that we get because you get back off an MVP season. You're in your early twenties. There's certain ways you can act. I really don't expect the homes to be jerk by any means. But there is that percentage of him. Maybe coming back a little bit full of them. So I just wonder why how you ended up a Collins. You see that he's but stay there with the Forber or the he's hurting so far walking his dog one time it's crazy to say in Kansas City, but he's one of the most popular athletes in the world. You know, if you want your art, you're starting to even think approach top ten top twenty if he's not ready. They're already so I'm sure. There's athletes from other sports that are reaching out to him says, hey, you're in Texas one issues my place. I'm shocked Mahomes. Benjamin cereal is not out yet. Because I talked to Steinberg said it's gonna hit the shelves. I have been there looking every night. No not every night every week. They go to the store. I look for Mahomes. Magic crunch time out your Steinberg, man. How can he picked hand pick these ingredients? Stein invited you'd like a Super Bowl party. Go me the cereal. Yeah. I wanna see it too. Then there's the video of him playing video games on an axe. And turn on the light off. You think you really did? I mean, I think it took several takes. Yeah. Social media, though. Everything's perfect going to. Come on. I it's it's interesting. I think you know, you saw him when he was behind Alex. He didn't take a lot of endorsement deals and now he's the guy. He's one of the best quarterbacks. Not the best quarterback the National Football League. And he's getting the endorsements and the reaction on social media when it comes to chiefs fans because I do get an opportunity to see all the mentions, and so and so forth as the hope is. Okay. Well, maybe he'll get enough money where he takes a break contract. And that's the wishful thinking, I don't think you can reasonably expect that from a players first contract, especially with the skill of Patrick Mahomes. But maybe a second or third maybe you start to talk about that. But right now, I think you gotta take all the money. Steinberg's plan prove yourself. I gotta prove he did that Wednesday MVP now the endorsements, but they've been very selective of what they they didn't want the whole Brady Quinn billboards situation before you prove yourself. They didn't want that. And they didn't do it. They had a plan for marketing, Patrick, Mahomes, we're brilliantly. And I think there's an aspect to the Kansas City Chiefs fan, right? Who who thinks this is really cool. I mean the last quarterback that was I think this cool in Kansas City was Joe Joe was Joe Montana. I mean, Alex you'll had four rings and Alex tranfer winners. But this is you have the list player in the National Football League. He used to be maybe like a j water von Miller. Now, you have the coolest guy National Football League. And can you say that about the chiefs last time was Joe Montana? It's been a long time swing from head pride up until four o'clock today. He's in studio with Jay Bank. Leeann I maybe this is in an old guy take, and I hope it's not. But do you think that? Him living. And maybe this is just the way it is. Because again, I have step kids that are teenagers. Right. And so I see social media all the time. And the impact it has any time that they spend on it is this just sort of the new normal. No matter if you're a superstar, not videotaping yourself playing video games, you know, doing what he's doing. Or do you think he's the older version of the chief's fan is going to be like come on, man? I'm like, just cool. It a little I don't need to see your. I don't need. You videotaping yourself with your dog in the gym. I don't need to see video view playing video games. You know, or is that just kind of the way we're going, and maybe maybe it's because we haven't necessarily experienced in Kansas City star either. I turned thirty years old and November and this whole twitch video game thing is it was my first indication. I'm sure many that are to come of your old because I don't get it either. Where kids go online right now, and they watch other people playing video games, and that sort of their entertainment for the day. I like video games like Madden. I like to play them. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's a common thing. I mean is a common thing that kids are doing and they enjoyed it. And I think what the draw is if you add Meyer them in another way like Tyree killer. Patrick, Mahomes, you go on and watch the games. Or if the person happens to be really good, then like they had this guy called ninja does the fortnight Syria, and he makes millions of dollars crazy for him. Hardships. Now for please sports. And I think it's going to be a bigger and bigger thing as time goes on. I mean, I find video games fun. But just the dry I mean, and they're even in our line of work. So to speak commentators who are making a living off the stuff and their play by play guys for for twitch. Yeah. That's unbelievable. I remember what poultry came out that was a big deal TV when it initially came out years ago. Like why in the world, you wanna watch somebody play cards on TV and a lot of really into it. I think the draw is that anyone could do it reasonably like so you look at professional poker? You're like this fat guy with these googly eye glasses is about to win the million bracelet. And then now you look at video games. Like, I play mad, and I could one hundred thousand dollars like you may never be able to play the National Football League. I think that's the case for a lot of us. But you could maybe get that good, Matt. And I think that interests people as well. I would like to see more realized of mom's going to do this stuff on social media. I'd like to see at some point more real. Realized of show cook dinner doing something like that. Because here's the fear. And this is again, the stepparent me coming out is that I think kids they create this perfect profile that they have on social media because nobody shows their bad days on social media. It's a highlight reel. It's a highlight reel of your life on social media. And then when real life kicks in some people don't know how to handle it, you know, because it's not the profile, and the things that they've that that the image that they've created on social media. So I would actually like to see Mahomes, if he wants to have an impact on some kids because I think there's a lot of people that watch, and it's not his responsibility. He doesn't have to do it at all. But she'll be bad day. You know, let me know when the perfect Patrick Mahomes. I mean, I'm sure he gets a flat tire too. You know, there's certain days when he burns, his eggs. I've actually wouldn't mind seeing that part of his life. Instead of throwing an accident hitting and hitting a light, even though that's fun to watch. I I mean Andy Reid would be the furthest from being a fan of this type of therapy. But if Patrick Mahomes was willing to do reality show with Britney. I think there's a person out. There was an internet company or all over it. That would do it in a second. So there's a possibility that exists out there. I don't I don't expect it anytime soon given Andy Reid as head coach. And that would be something that he would hate. He just just come home. Just come across as such an every man, you know, so far, and I think he's starting to get away from that a little bit. And so I'll be curious to see what this thing go. I've always said this. I think the power structure out. There's Clark eighty re Petric homes privy each and he's elevated himself to to be able to walk in the office and tell him exactly he could have been the one that said we got to get rid of Bob sudden, right? It could have been Mahomes. I wouldn't put a pass them. Chiefs have been very weird about this. They've been weird about this from the beginning when it comes to this player in particular like feet, they were the chiefs. You know, Brad went from your days doing the local TV show like the chiefs never hype anyone up even before this kid play. They're the best player we've had ever. And and it had to sell tickets, though, they, but they treat him a little bit differently. And I. The difference with him handling all this. And this is something that's a blessing doesn't happen for every every kid is he's PM to like his data ready through this. Of course, not to the extent of being the number one player National Football League. At least he's been locked rooms. He knows Regan. He's been around fame. So maybe hope that humbles him a little bit as finds success because he's just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger for sure we'll continue this conversation on the other side peat, sweetie. From had in studio. We'll be right back on the drought. Dr presented by Takata. Go back into the drive was playing a couple of games today. The split squads down in Arizona. They trail the Chicago White Sox eight to four and one game. And in the other game against the dodgers believe that game is still scoreless. So the rose planets split-squad today, we've got a spring training game tomorrow here on the dry, but believe it or not we actually have a full show sterling's for the cover off the ball still today is that does that make your heaven Arizona where baseball games at once. How could it not be? I mean, that's amazing. You have great weather in palm trees surprise as well. You'll turn around one royals game turned around the better. The weather in the palm trees, we all know about the baseball come on about the old people because he feels young down there young. You know, it's funny. When I this is how corny I am. I took threes vacation last week. And actually went down to watch baseball. All my -cation is to get out of here. But it is funny like you go out and have dinner, and it's like six thirty seven o'clock planning, and I had dinner one night cleared. It was Pat when we got in there named and well plans, do, you know, so literally forty five minutes after we got their place was empty because all the all the old people down that were done eating dinner and going to bed by eight thirty to watch the Gulf Kurds there. Yeah. Golf Carleen down there to spring training. Makes you feel like you're at seven it does right. Even on five six and a half, they stolen inch from in the combine which is not failed shorter newer onto. Absolutely. I take into the rack. I I did some minor league work for the for the raise. I talked about this before on the radio, and we were in Charlotte port, Charlotte, Florida and. Same thing. I mean, besides the baseball is just I mean, the median age that there might be like sixty five I know nothing to do the really isn't. And and especially surprises royals. It's actually starting to grow grow and build out there. But I love it down there. I just I just love being around baseball and winters winters gone. We got sweetie from our ahead pride in studio. Coming up in about fifteen minutes or so they've got some wheat take about the big twelve race. And how it changed and whatever I'm sure you don't want to hear that. It's going to be amazing bribing as hot hot smoking. Hot piping. Take got about the big twelve race of based on the K U K state game last night. But peace twenty. Studio want to ask you a couple of things we talk about Brett vs being aggressive is this the off season that he needs to show it. I think it's interesting because what's the chiefs biggest need. It's the secondary. And you know, I was telling you guys off the air. I mean detailing prospects is not necessarily my game. I got hold team for her at pride. But you from what you hear is. It's we so weak cornerback drafter aren't a ton of safeties. And the chiefs are picking till twenty nine and they got to second rounders. I wouldn't rule out them finding a way to get into the top. I mean because your biggest need is what a starter and secondary on defense and bread veges aggressive. He likes to go after guys that he really likes. There aren't a ton of quarterbacks that are exciting in this draft from everything that you hear. So you wonder if he goes, and and gets his player that he likes and again it all connects right? So you have to think, okay. How does this work with free agency? How does this work with the status of Justin Houston, and Eric berry so on and so forth? It's fascinating. I mean, we are in the peak speculation season used to work over there for the cheese. Here's what I'm curious about it. Maybe you don't have the answer. I don't know would cease back Knowle's defensive coordinator. And the fact that let's be honest, and she's done a bang-up job drafting defensive players under the read early -ception. Maybe Marcus Peters. Chris Jones how much Spagnolo in your opinion gonna factor into what they do in the draft. I think it's gotta be hand in hand. And from what you see and hear out of you know, the cheese facilities. It is going to be like there was a really good nugget. And I think BJ had it on his Twitter, and I get it. You know, they're putting out a lot of positive stuff about show. So you gotta keep that in mind. But that being said, it was a really good nugget about how bread VH and Steve like from the second that he's walked in the door. He's been in draft meetings. And I think you have to have that. And I you know, we have an article right outright upright. Now. Just to be quantifying the debate between Brett beach, and John Doe. See, and that's fine and good. But one thing that you can't lie of yourself about as when Dorsey and Reed were here Dorsey reader here, I wouldn't say it was head to head. But they each kind of reported a Clark, and they were had their own agenda a little bit. I think this is the closest spin to a marriage of offense of appall defensive football personnel staff than it's been in Kansas City since Reid came and thirteen and I think that's what you want given. Now this small window that you have with Patrick Mahomes rookie contract. I definitely think there's a separation of power. He kept saying on this side reads on this side VH such eighty regain. I'll see this about spags. He is said this several times his trust level in his assistance. You don't need talked about taking a year off he'd go to NFL films and watch what other teams are doing. I think that did him a wonder I think Bill Snyder learned a lot by watching other teams we took a little hiatus when he took time off from Ron prince. But he really listens to his assistance. Just like what he's breaking down the Ford. Don't talk to my defensive staff. See what the spill talk to my linebackers. Coach defense Blake's about Brennan daily in madhouse come together and figure out what to do with the Ford tag him not wanting the hand in dirt or not I think he trust is assistance lot. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys are very instrumental in looking at certain pieces for Steve spagnuola, I think is whole staffs going to be involved in this. That's how much trust them. And from what you hear the chiefs were enthusiastic about getting that staff here. That's why they were. Went above and beyond anything picks up a phone one hundred fifty grand. Okay. And and I think that's important because it defensive coordinator can't do anything and for him to basically clean house and say, all right. We tried to change the personnel. A little bit last year that didn't work. It's clearly staff problem. He cleaned it out completely except for Britt Reid who moves position. So if our the coach's kid really what this is for the defense with is actually what the chiefs needs. Kaman hip fire wanted state coach only one that fact, man. It's true. That's true. Yeah. But demoted. Yeah. Yeah. Pay ray. A little demoted for but but he's still here. Right. Yeah. All that being said, would it provides wiping, wiping, the slate clean and having all new coaches as change of scenery for every defensive player without moving them. So you I think players that maybe weren't as good last year. The slate is clean. They may be good. I'm looking Anthony Hitchens, for example. He may be good under this new scheme this hybrid four three under type deal. And so I'm excited about that. I'm excited to see what this new coaching staff does with these players, sweetie marrow. Head pride Pete. There's a story out there today that the Bengals are willing to listen to trade offers for John Ross who's just grease lightning, man. This guy's fast. I mean, he tyreek hill fast or is he close to that fast steps l- steps lower. But I think he automatically becomes the second fastest player in the team or two and they're talking what fourth round draft pick something like that. Is that the talk for him became on top of this fourth round draft pick potentially for John Ross. He's gonna take more than that to get. You would think late rounder Elat rounder is that something that she's do. I don't think you can rule. Anything out would Br. At VH. I mean should be fair. I think going after a player like that shouldn't be a priority. But if it fits and makes sense, maybe they go and do it. I don't think you have Sammy Watkins there for reason. You can't move semi. Yeah. Given that contract. And so it'd be a reach, but you never know visas been if he likes a certain guy, he'll find a way to get it done. And I think a lot of chief sounds like that about I think they got big works Robinson's pretty prefets combine time when as a four five, but they've got the speed on the outside, and they have it with tyreek hill, I think even more possession type wide receiver for Patrick Mahomes than another speedster kill in DeMarcus downfield as well. The only thing that makes us the question like of Chris Conley another year in his deal. I think there's no way they don't get them. But the fact that a UFA makes it more interesting like how much confidence do they have Indira? We're about to find out this offseason to to let me get you out of here on this. What are the cheese going to do with Justin Houston? I know. This is the speculation time right now don't have football with exception. The lines which basically loves, but what are the cheese gonna do? Justin using your. I think it's an interesting case. And it's because he was an above average player this year. I still think he's an above average player last year. But I think they ultimately have to cut them because the money doesn't match the performance anymore, and they're so far up against the cap. They can't afford. It would be great too in a perfect world with a lot of cap. I think he's still on his team wants to pay cut either. He's not a guy who's taken a pay cut. I mean, if you know him easing eating taking a pay cut. So I think ultimately he gets it's hard to replace the top twenty seconds last year. Fourteen of them were first round picks for or second round picks. Two of them are third round picks. Nobody in the top twenty and six was past the third round that is helped up that position is the film. There's a good amount edge guys in draft again from what you hear. So there's a lot of options of the chiefs have I hope they end up using the top three picks on defense defensive players. And then maybe look at offense the rest of the big league. It's cocky with staff that he looked up shake his head. He's so proud of it. I love it. It's one of my favorite things. I love you, man. You don't like dealing in facts, you got you guys are match made in heaven. You don't like facts. That's Pete swing from our ahead pride. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Spencer hall by name is Jason Kerr. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined. We form the shutdown full stride. Keep telling you novel. The forecast is technically college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster regional grocery stores. We love Tennessee Batman, homeowners associations bears in video games. Pittsburgh Batman, the hell of being trapped group test unreliable legal advice. I mean, there's also some actual football discussion about coaches, having us contracts coaches making terrible decisions or coaches, saying really stupid things or the NC double A's saying released. Yeah, there's lots of stupid things in this big dome. 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Okay. And then it's gone within like twenty four hours much lingers a little bit. I have a little bit of Mediterranean blood in me. So, you know, I get some color, but it's not that olive color that that is ideal. It's more. It's more of a red in it. Yeah. Certainly within a week. It's gone. No question about that. Yeah. Good thing. The tan was never allure for you single. Right. Good. Then you good thing you found someone who will take pity on. You know, no question about end. She gets nice. And bronze unlike myself, so I guess I won the end of that deal. Well, you know, what April fifteenth means, right? It's tax day. They pay debts men, his Manny. Josh if you paid demand the money. Oh BUSTER I done paid the man his money. I paid them in his back in January already cash my refund check, and you're kind of laughed off you. That's that's how you went on vacation. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's twenty nine ten BUSTER get that done. I don't know where you grew up. But the folks farmers I grew up around the believe me they were waiting till the last possible second to role in their return. Maybe maybe they called her change in Vermont. I don't know. It's also baggage claim Monday, and it's Jackie Robinson day across major league baseball in the legacy of Jackie Robinson will be celebrated in the game today. Some news notes as we get going. Angels outfielder, Mike trout is improving. He will travel with the team. He did not make the trip to Chicago with the angels over the weekend. Clayton Kershaw will make his fourth start of the season Monday coming off the injured list in. Lanta last night on Sunday night baseball, man. The Braves went after Jacob degrom. Swing and a high fly ball well-struck right field towards the corner. God Nick marquess turning on one. Marquette is so touchable. And we're tied up. One a piece is he takes the Cy Young award winner. Teeth to swing and a drive well-struck left center field that one back there, and that one is gone. A line drive home over the left center field fence, a rocket off the bat. A Josh Donaldson. The Braves of added another and it is now three to one Atlanta. Jami the legend on ESPN radio the Braves take game for that series. So the two sides split in Jacob degrom last two starts. He's allowed five homers. And if you remember in two thousand eighteen he loves ten for the entire year. He talked about his outing after the game. Right now, kind of cut the fastball. The yank- in the slider. Changeups good at times. But other times, it's not. So I don't know if it's something mechanical to get in there and look and figured out. I didn't really look at it. You know that was. I go back to the year. I had those two really bad ones in a got looking at too much video. So I was just working in between trying to get everything where I wanted to. And I felt good warming up. They'll good first couple innings even the pitch that Nick. It was a good pitch. Obviously went and looked at that. And don't really know and kept it very just got to it and was able to hit and then. Donaldson that will was supposed to be in. Jacob degrom had an unusual path to becoming the best pitcher on the planet. We're going to hear more about that later in the podcasts. The Rangers navlab explained in the Rangers came back in the eighth inning. Simplest story of the pitch. Swing drills. The right fin that is up. The alley. Debases Tuesday's reinterred. He's being weighed with the plate. Here comes the fro the slide. He gave his time. Then all the way to third goes Debbie Santana when Baldwin strike the pitch the shields. Butts third day side out the gate at the catch integrity. Throws the first pitch late out the puck and the Rangers lead eight two seven. Perfectly placed blood up to three baseline Begley did a great job to get out there. But he had to spin around with Roe and Delano simply beat the grow to give the Rangers believe arrogant L the hall of Famer on one of five point three the fan Texas wins add game. Eight two seven in Kansas City Royals walked off against Cleveland, lined up the left the allying fair. Utter dosier bullet. Over the third baseman Wilde's have slept to series. Denny Matthews zone. Six ten Casey SP, the Padres have been hot. But on Sunday. David Peralta, slow them down. In a pinch hitting appearance of the I wanted to Peralta and David swing sits down the left field line at ball's got a chance, and it is gone up. Three rack bitch over David Peralta. His second round of the season and atlas the Diamondbacks to a six two lead over the Padres. Greg Solti Arezzo sports ninety eight point seven FM Arizona wins eight to four the Rockies and giants game her mind Marquez had a no hitter through seven innings and Nolan. Are Nado kept it alive in the eighth. Brandon Crawford swing sits a smash knocked down by not. Oh, bare hand pickup thrown a first. He got them Nolan. Are Nado keeps the no hitter alive with a terrific play. My goodness that on eight fifty KOA. But the no. Hitter. Wouldn't last comes swinging to grab onto the home? Not this time. It goes by him to basically. Longoria hit a sharply and right through the whole. John miller. I'd can be are. So the giants get a hit. But they also go to lost. They dropped the game to the Rockies four to nothing pirates in the nationals and in the top of the night dinning Jason Morton came through for Pittsburgh. Here's the pitch and I fly ball toward left-center going back and toward the track. And it's over the head of the fielder. Soto bounces onto the track it over the wall Jason Martin just doubled home Josh bell with the go-ahead run. It's four to three sports radio ninety three point seven the fan. Pittsburgh wins there for two three the raise. When again the Red Sox took care of business against the Orioles in Yankee Stadium. However, the problems for the Yankees continue and the oh one swinging a line drive right center field. Visit well fifth attrac- at the fetch slam such late on a grand slam. But Tim Anderson over the scoreboard, right? It's actually poured it to turn on fire. Works at farmer on WGN. Came. Of the day. So the game of the day the Astros and the Mariners and Josh I know you've been on vacation because you constantly tell me all the time. How you hate pitching highlights when we come back on the first day and you pick the game of the day. What did you pick? Josh I picked Garrett Kohl's fantastic outing against the Mariners full of pitching highlights of core. What did that sound like like kicking three to that is on the outside corner for strike three or goes down looking? He can't believe it. He thought it was off the plate thought he f- all four but goal picks up his nights strikeout as he is retired the last seven in a row one streaks. They tied a franchise record with twelve straight wins back in two thousand eighteen swing and a mass Haniger goes down on an elevated fastball in her stem. He's been retired today. In the tent strike out for coal one out a really impressive off of a good hitter. Here comes the three two on the outside quarter for strike three Vogel. That goes down looking at nine mile an hour heater wasn't happy God tissue and last one. Yes, the NFL has over eleven strikeouts. For Cole who set down Senator row rate calls author less. Unless you're part of Garrett Cole family or unless you remember the Astros is that that exciting Robert Ford KBM e seven ninety AM all kidding aside. Those are great calls Garrett. Cole was terrific. He set up the Astros for this in the top of the seventh inning V as will leave things off for the Astros and seventh-inning Brennan Brennan back out there after striking to is laugh dinning and the as rich win the left Beal looking up Santana this. Children three to lead with the whole world. So they Astros are rolling again three to Josh. I'm glad you joined the dark side, you know, with your your independent highlights. I like that I can count on that moving forward. I'll listen BUSTER. I don't want to bring listeners to deep into the weeds here. But the difference between the pitching montage that I presented on the pitching montages that you regularly present that pitching montage was full of radio calls, whereas the pitching montages that you like to play our TV calls while although great they need that visual element. It's just the ball hitting the mid we got some we got some great descriptors there on the the back to back to back ks by Garrett Cole. Yeah. Okay. Curious as we move forward. I'm curious as we move. How many more times you pick pitching highlights in your game of the day? Garrett. Cole AJ Hinch talked about those amazing highlights after the victory. I'm just trying to stay under control and the scheme executing as many veggies. I could there. Offense indiscipline offense and kindergarten Santana the top. Gimme some today. But we're able to navigate around and hold the lead. Our whole the deficit rather as long as you could thought command really of all four was pretty good. I was able to just. Kind of be on the corner and didn't really throw too many non-competitive pitches. So I was pleased that we got an leadoff runner got on base. And we just put a little bit of pressure on them. We weren't really able to do that. And he was on a good job of getting some pop ups of this on a little bit and he was pretty efficient with his pitches. So we put a couple of things together got into got in got him in some trouble. And and then and then got got a couple of runs across. Now, we get to see a company him a couple of times and then put up better as the game went on it. He didn't make many mistakes. I'm not even sure that the pitches that he gave over mistakes, and then were able to capitalize on the on the small opportunities that we had. So the bottom of the order did a really good job. Obviously. Briley comes up with the big hit DS gets the home or to get ahead. We ended up having a good win seen heads ritual. Timmy tied this great game. Or what with tin kurkin on baseball tonight. Tim coaching covers baseball for ESPN. And Tim Jackie Robinson day. You're going to be part of that discussion today. Celebrating the legacy. Jackie robinson. Yes. Yes. And really looking forward to it. We could have Ryan Howard doing his first game from the booth tonight, which should be fun all sorts. We're gonna have all sorts of people helping us on this Doug Glanville from the studio we're going to have Jamie, FOX come upstairs, and he's throwing out the first ball tonight. And he's very much into African Americans playing baseball in a big baseball fan himself. So that's going to be cool. It's going to be a great night in Philadelphia to celebrate just the impact that Jackie Robinson had not just on the game. But on the country also. Now, we talked about Jagger Robinson a lot in our broadcast last night. We had the same experience that you guys got last year. Actually when I say we I felt very jealous because I was down on the field. I actually asked her producer Andy rice world, if I could go up to the booth to at least listen in and shake the hand of Hank. Aaron who is in our booth Tim that was amazing. And as I said, I know you guys have experienced last year he told he talked about Jackie Robinson told a great story which told you guys last year about watching Jackie play a game of cards. And he told the story that I never heard before in the how in the hours after he broke babies record when he got home he and his wife got down on their knees and prayed, and you get the sense when how he talks about that now. And now he talks about Jag Robinson that he really is is only come to grips with what he experienced during that home run chase and what he experiences an African American player. In retirement, if making sense in other words, it seemed like when he played he just kinda put his head down any played. And he didn't really listen to things that were going on around them and tried not to really take it to heart. And he's done more that it seems in retirement. What was your sense? You're absolutely right about that BUSTER. And if I may I've covered forty years, and that was the professional highlight of my career sitting next to Hank Aaron for four and a half innings last year. And just ask him all the questions that I've always wanted to ask him I've interviewed him before. But not in quite a setting like that he told us the praying story that you guys heard last night he told us that last year, and so many other stories that I had never heard from him before including where he got those incredibly powerful hands and risks from his dad used to carry giant blocks of ice up long sets stairs with ice tongs. And that's how he developed that. Hank would go along with his dad. He was so great last year. And I'm sorry. I missed last night because I was traveling to get Philadelphia. But I'm sure he was extra great last. Night. And just another reminder how great baseball is when somebody like Hank Aaron who has been so important to the game of baseball can join us and explain some things which very few people can like he can't, you know, what's really cool. You know before the game last night. We're talking to Brian snicker the manager of the Braves, and he talked about his relationship with Aaron how Aaron was the one who actually hired him the first person to to hire him to be a manager in the minor leagues. One. Aaron was the farm director of the Braves, and he just talked glowingly about how you know. Aaron would call them every week to ten days and ask how he was doing checking on he said, but he would pretty much. Let us do our jobs, and he just spoke so powerfully about him. But is immediate member through the years. I would number of times I try to reach out to him. I'd leave messages form I wouldn't hear back any seemed like more of a distant figure in the media, which is. Why when he dated segment with you guys last year when he was on air with us last night. It was so cool t hers laughter and his passion. And just the joy that you know, he looks back on his career with. Yet, the smile he showed us last year. I expected it because I interviewed him a Cooperstown one year with Willie Mays. How cool is that? And the the smiles those two guys share together was unmistakable for me. And then we saw last year, and he was just so an ease with with his career with his life. And with the game today. It was it was so so good. And it's again, something that I'll never forget because I've never had a night covering this sport in forty years. Like I did last year in Atlanta. All right. Every week. You get the first crack at the poll question that we posed for the week. We have next Sunday the Braves for the third time this year on Sunday night baseball playing in Cleveland. And in light of that the question is who has the best rotation in baseball. And I only have four options in a Twitter poll Astros, Indians nationals and raise and I picked those four with all due respect to the Mets pirates because you could make an argument that the Mets are played should be in that group of four but Astros Indians nationals raise Tim who you got. Well, I've got the Indians when everybody's healthy. Of course, when Bieber is your fifth guy with that stuff. That's absurd. Cleven gers. Indeed, your fourth guy with that stuff. That's ridiculous. So I'll take the Indians with Corey kluber at his best which is not been this year. But will be and caress go and Bauer to go with those five. I mean, you I'll live with any of the four that you put out there. And at the beginning of the year the dodgers were saying they had the best rotation. The cub saw that they had a really good rotation. It just shows you how many great rotations are out there. But I'll take the Indians assuming of course, everybody's at their best. And everybody's healthy. Let me ask you because I got a lot of pushback on Twitter in this. Would you have the raise in this group of four and leave the Mets and pirates out? I would have the Mets in there instead of the raise even though of course, the rays of pitch better than anybody this year. But they've also done it with that amazing bullpen that they've put together, but those top three guys in that rotation for for Tampa Bay is really good. And they only use the you know, an opener twice a week. Sometimes. Only once a week with the other people they have. But I would have put the Mets in there. Just because when you can start with degrom. Syndergaard Wheeler Mads Vargas, I think that that belongs in the top four. I hear you in the last year overs Tyler glass now, perhaps the most improved pitcher in baseball. He's been great. I had somebody tell me who went to scout the pirates couple years ago. He said whatever they do they need to keep back. I because it's going to happen. And when it does happen. No one's going to be able to hit him. And when they moved him the same guy told me, I can't believe they traded him. You can't trade that guy. That's how good he's going to become. So BUSTER you're in you're perfectly within rights to put the raise their because nobody's bitch better than them. This year is just that. I think when you're looking at five you got to have five major league starters, not openers involved. Okay. Thanks for making me feel bad. I appreciate that getting of a long week for me. The Houston Astros are playing great. They're eleven and five now in a love seeing the fact that Jose altuve as healthy off to a great start. He keeps hitting homers. He's got seven now betting three twenty eight and Tim we talked about this on the podcast a little bit at the end of last week to me when you look at it about Jose altuve AA, it's amazing even at age twenty eight how many boxes he's checked for hall of fame election. He's three time batting champion four times. Led his league in hits. He's an MVP then two thousand seventeen he was part of a World Series winning team to me. And this is someone who's coming up on fifteen hundred hits. Once he gets the two thousand. It's a lock what do you think? Yeah. He's going to the hall of fame BUSTER, there's no doubt in my mind about that. Especially given the position he plays which is a defensive position for the most part. And to be that great of an offensive player already. Is remarkable. These last five years have been a joke. How how good he has been. And you're right. He's checking all the boxes, but I'll never forget a couple years ago three years ago when they got knocked out of the play offs by the royals. He came into AJ inches office with tears in his eyes and blamed himself for the Astros not winning that series. And that's how that's how personal and important. It is for him to carry the team and AJ have to wait a minute. You're not blaming yourself for this law. You didn't lose and that too. That's who L to bay is. But you look at these numbers adding up like this at this position and tap and so quickly. With the power involve don't forget outscored told me a couple years ago pound for pound the strongest player in the major leagues, his Jose altuve may that's with Aaron judge and and John Carlos Stanton around, but he was one hundred sixty four pounds, and he just had a home run in five straight games. He's an inch taller than me. That's pretty amazing. The most surreal conversation. They had with any player baseball. Last year was with Jose altuve a win in the aftermath of signing that one hundred fifty one million dollars extension. He looked at me and said, you know, what I'm overpaid. Like, I'm make too much. And I said Jose if you never played another game in your career, you'll have provided more value to the Astros than we'll paid you in salary, according to how they calculate these things. He's been amazing right and not to get too corny about this BUSTER, but this should tell every little kid out there that it doesn't matter. What you look like you can be five six one hundred sixty four pounds and be the best one of the best players in the league is long as you have the skills to play this game and the commitment that it takes. He is the perfect example of how you can be really small and be great at this game. And that's what all our little kids should understand if he can do it. They can do it. If they put their mind to speaking little guys, you got paid ask questions, and we talked a little bit about Ozzy Albee's seven year thirty five million dollar deal that agreed to with the Braves last weekend. Tim, you know, that he's gotten a lot of criticism for this contract. You know, the Braves have gotten some criticism for this contract. I felt at the time when the deal went down at some of the a lot of criticism was out of context in unfair and to hear the stories over the weekend. And you think to put Ozzy in proper context someone who right after he signed professionally his father died at age forty of a heart attack. He was the oldest of three children growing up, and he told a mutual friend this growing up his family often struggled for food once a month. They would go to McDonalds and that was like the big treat of each month. Growing up it at the end of two thousand. And sixteen when he was playing in the minor leagues. He took a swing and he fractured his elbow. He plays with a screw in his elbow Ozzy. Albee's terrific player. He's not Ronald Kuni junior in terms of being an absolutely surefire superstar because he's hyper aggressive at the plate. And that usually doesn't change. He's had this injury history and second baseman have not necessarily gotten paid that great and free agency last few years DJ LeMay hugest got a two year deal after being an all star. You saw Jonathan scope non tendered given what he's gone through. I I don't know anyone could take issue with Ozzy Albee's taking this thirty five million dollar deal. I'm totally with you on this BUSTER, look could he have gotten more. Of course, did they did the Braves get a bargain. My guess is as we look forward. It's going to be a bargain, but a kid grew up with nothing is offered thirty five million dollars a year. And we criticize him for taking that when he knows now he and his family will be set up for the rest of their lives. Whether he gets another hit or not, and he's going to get a million more hits. But he's had trouble from the left side. He's a little guy. He's a free swinger. And he was not a great player after April last year. So you have to look at it that way, even though he's betting on himself. And he's going to be good. And I'm sure he will be he's also best friends with rumble kunia junior. They they are inseparable. And now here's a chance to make sure he gets seven years next to his best friend, not everything should be. You know looked at. At in. Where does he compare what the other salaries, let's looks look at personal happiness here. Once in a while. I think we're allowed to look at that. And how could he not be a happy guy to get seven more years with the kunia junior and make an enormous amount of money. Yeah. So last night, you mentioned this relationship as Ronald Kuni junior. I've never seen this before where in the middle of a baseball game. And there's competition going on you look in front of me in the dugout. And there's a Kuni junior and Ozzy wrestling. Okay. The wrestling is the game's going on to kinda push into shoving. And then you'll Hong Camargo got a big hit. And they both jump up and they both celebrate. If anyone goes to Braves Twitter, they can see this scene right after the wrestling match took place. Tim, I I said on Aero's like two kids you have to separate in class. Right. They're like they're like two brothers one just a tiny bit older fighting down in the rec room before. Mom calls him up to go eat. This is another reason why he signed that contract. So he can be with his buddy. Like that for all those years. I I think that's a great thing for baseball. And I think all of these extensions keeping star players or really good players in one place for five six seven ten years. I think this is good for the game not bad for the game. All right. Speaking of the hall of fame Reena Benin a- tweeted at us this question, and I found this absolutely fascinating. You're the one who's better than anybody else. Putting history in context and she asked despite struggles in two thousand one thousand nine hundred four is Corey kluber a legitimate candidate for Cooperstown. Now, I hit you with this question. Tim sort of a blindside I'll give you the career numbers ninety seven fifty seven and two hundred and four games. Two hundred ninety nine starts in ER a three point one, oh he has just thirteen hundred and twenty two winnings. But in a five year period he won the Cy Young award twice twice. He finished in third place is an adjusted era plus of one thirty seven Tim. That's twentieth. Best all time. I for me. He still two thousand any short of were a lot of hall of famers are and that's a lot of work to do. But man, he's had an impressive peak of his career more than an impressive peak. But he's not a hall of Famer yet, and he shouldn't be a hall of Famer yet dizzy dean has the fewest wins of any starting pitcher ever to go into the hall of fame. And, you know, kluber got a long way to get to even dizzy dean. This is what you have to do is a starting pitcher is you have to go out there. And if you're two thousand inning short, I'm not so sure about that. Plus, you know, the Tim Linda comes of. The world would then say we'll look at my five year peak. I should be hall of Famer also, but it's it's career value. Not just peak value. There are a lot of guys who belong in based on peak, but career is even more important to me, how long do you do it? How good are you for long periods of time people people penalized for longevity. I happen to give extra credit points for being good enough to be in a rotation for fifteen years some guys for twenty years that stuff matters. So according kluber is not a hall of Famer yet, but the on the path have -solutely, but he needs he needs several or really good years to get there. Now you and I are wrong about so many things, but I gotta give you credit. You're right about Byron Buxton when he told us in spring training that he seems set up for a good year. This was the play that he made yesterday that got everybody in baseball talking to reach a fielder's choice. First time of a drive to center Buxton going back still going back. He's at the long way. Catch Byron Buxton with a great page right before crashing it along. Dick Bremmer on Fox Sports Minnesota with that call yet, Tim Byron bucks. And so far this year hitting three twenty four three seventy eight on base percentage. The twins are playing well, you're gonna take a victory lap. Go ahead. No, I'm not taking a victory lap. I told you I'm not apologizing for be wrong about things, but I'm never gonna say. Hey was right about that. Because I might be wrong. Anyway, all I'm telling you is when he took his shirt off. It was ridiculous. How ripped he was any completely different body type than the one that I saw last year, but more important than that BUSTER. He was angry this spring. I had such fun loving conversation with him the previous spring about football. And how hard baseball was. And there was none of that this spring. It was like I'm not talking about anything funny because I'm he didn't say it. But he was angry about the way he'd been treated. He was angry by the twins not calling up in September. And I just sense. This guy is angry enough to go show, everyone I'm going back to the way that I used to play baseball. And I'm going to go back to my old swing and that's what I've seen and saw from Brian Buxton this Frank. So it's. Really impressive. And I want you to throw this out there for your all your Twitter, followers, and everyone on this show mister freeze in Atlanta. And we ran Byron bucks in against Mr. freeze. Head up. Does the Mr. freeze win that race or does Byron Buxton win that race? I think widely competitive, but my wrong about that. We should do it at the all-star game. Am I wrong about that? That would be really cool. And I think that Billy Billy Hamilton would fight people to be in that race up corner. Said this on the air the other night when we did a game in Atlanta. We should do this at the all star game where should get Billy Amilton Vira bucks in, you know, Gordon, or, you know, somebody else deride Dyson or Terrence gore and raise Mr. freeze at the all star game. I think it would be really cool. And I think Buxton gives them a run for sure. So Tim you of course, participated in the great hotdog race in Milwaukee. Right. Guess as what the request? I got was on. Friday. Would you ever had race race Mr. freeze, its yes? Yeah. Thank asked me that. No, you said, no, right. Like god. Of course. I said, no. Are you kidding? Josh you want to chime in here. I knew you'd want to raise the freeze. Yeah. Well, I would have accepted because I fear. No man BUSTER, and you're talking to a guy who ran a five to forty in high school. So I think I I I would have stood a chance to against him. Absolutely. I'd I would put my best foot or feet forward and giving them all I had bustard just make a quick point about the hot dog race. I had zero interest in running in that I resisted, and then Mike mcquaid our boss who I'm afraid I was afraid of them. And I'm still afraid of even though he's not my boss now told me you are racing in the hot dog race. I said, no, I'm not he said, yes, you are. So I did I only did because I was afraid of my boss. Apparently, not afraid of anti rice. Well to the point that I submitted because I was like, no, I'm not doing that. No. There's no chance, you know, maybe thirty years ago, but no chance now three quick ones before you go Kershaw pitches for the dodgers tonight returns the rotation. There's a great piece on ESPN dot com about Kershaw and he's need for change up. What do we expect for him as he works his way back into action? Well, he's still really good. So I expect him to be good. But I think the key like with Dustin Pedroia almost every game. What's he gonna feel like tomorrow after he pitches tonight? Let's say he goes five innings and pitches. Really? Well tonight, what's he gonna feel like tomorrow? How is that body gonna bounce back? Because now to me that's more important than does. He throw hard enough. Does he need? Another pitch is physically can everything. Hold up for the next start can it. Hold up. The next day. And even though he's in tremendous shape. I think that's the bigger question. How is he doing physically the day after he's he throws? And let's just get it out of the way. He's going to be throwing eighty eight to ninety those days of him. Throw ninety five are past. Yes. Yes. There are over. But he so good that like others have figured out how to win with five miles eight miles an hour less. That's what he's going to do. Yep. Sees a bathroom and a great example he showed that the other day the Yankee Stadium. I heard over the weekend that Dallas Kyko at this point is bullish on the idea of a one year contract. They're certainly number of teams that could use them in that regard. And maybe the Phillies you'd be good fit for maybe be good fit for the Mets. But I hear that the team that might be the best fit the San Diego Padres. Which makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know about you, Tim. But just knowing how excited that ownership group was in spend all that money. Manny machado. They're off to a good start. Heck, yeah. I think it would make sense. What about you? Right. Just look at the east though. I what if he went to the Mets what if he went to the Braves what if he went to the Phillies. I mean, it might change that division. He's good enough to add an element that all three of those teams need. But the Padres are the perfect team for him. They have a bunch of young guys on that club. You bring in a guy who's pitched in one some really big games in his career. Here and you add it to a younger team like that. That would be the perfect spot for him. But again, if he's indeed as you say gonna take a potentially take a one year deal, I think that's the best way to get this done. And then try it again next year. And before you go I'm gonna make you answer. This question Carl ravage brought up the idea you guys probably will talk about it on air tonight. If you came up with a baseball mount Rushmore who the four being for baseball history between Carl and I we came up with of course, Babe Ruth has to be on there. Of course, Jackie Robinson has to be on their Hank. Aaron and Willie Mays. What do you think? That's the four BUSTER for me. Jackie's number one Babe Ruth number two, Hank Aaron's number three four is debatable. There are a bunch of great options for number four. But I would put Willie Mays on there. Because when he came up in one thousand nine hundred eighty one baseball had never seen anybody like him. No, no player had ever combined that kind of defense that kind of power, and that kind of speed with baseball had never seen an athlete like Willie Mays when he showed up and given everything that he did in his career. I would put him fourth. Although I'll listen to all sorts of offers at four I just don't think you can you can change. Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron especially with how great Hank Aaron was and what he did for the game and the country with the way he carried himself during the chase and the passing of Babe Ruth. And it could be that. There might be. A day where you consider Mike trout in place, a Willie Mays is what I'm hearing. Right. Certainly certainly because of the way he conducts himself that's part of this. If you're going to be on a mount Rushmore, you have to change the game in your own right and Mike trout is in the process of changing the game and showing people that you can be great player. You can be a great guy, and you can stay your entire career in theory in one place and not be overtaken by the money and everything else that the game and just play so sure fifteen years from now, we may say Mike trout's on that list. There's no Millard Fillmore on mount Rushmore. That's gonna be Hynde, buddy. Like that on the baseball mount Rushmore, Tim, thanks for doing this. Okay. Buster talk to you soon as we Worsley suburban garden, Catholic Catholic without stubbing. It you notice moves like an awful toll. It's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got Nomi is about how gyco not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer on second thought. Maybe don't watch garden gnomes to carefully people might talk. This is Jackie Robinson days. We've been talking about Bob Kendrick, the president of the negro league museum was on into the night on ESPN radio talking about Jackie Robinson, give listen in your childhood. What was Jackie Robinson to you? How did he affect you? It was really interesting because as a kid growing up in Georgia, I saw effect more all my parents, you know, because by the time Jackie dies, so young. And so I'm probably twelve or so by the time Jackie passes away. And so his impact really was seen through my parents. And I think that was the case particularly for for black folks all over the country, but particularly in the south Jackie was a hero and Jackie Robinson's. Breaking the color barrier in many respects was as paramount as the first man landing on the moon in the African American community, and they were no excess. And I so I think that is what I learned, you know, growing up as a kid, and then as fate would have it now working at the negro leagues baseball museum and having an opportunity to to get a much more deeper and richer appreciation for the entire story. And then to be able to put it in context with those heroes of the negro leagues. And of course, those leagues in which he his career started. And so it kind of all has come full circle for me in many respects. So when it comes to painting the full picture of Jackie Robinson, the man he was where he came from what he was a part of before he became the legend our baseball annals today. How important is it for you to use Jacky Robertson, and and everything that he's done as a tip of the iceberg to what all he has accomplished in. What all he came from. Well, the first and foremost you can never reduce what Jackie did so courageously to Jess baseball. And I think you guys touched. On it in your intro as you were coming in. This is what sparked the civil rights movement in this country. And for those who believe that one person cannot invoke change you need to look no further than Jackie Robinson. And when someone the magnitude of Dr Martin Luther King junior, the greatest civil rights leader in this nation's history said he could not have done with Jackie did that tells you the challenge that was a head of him because when Jackie walked out on field. He's by himself and literally an entire race of people were going to be judged by his ability to play this game. So if he fails an entire race of people fail and so in a game that is a game of failure. Your baseball is is game. A failure at his crux and he cannot fail and he was literally carrying twenty one million black folks on his back. When he walked across those lives as a member of the Brooklyn Dodgers. And so what he did with. Absolutely. And we should never forget Jackie Robinson. Job. Raynham is chief executive of our weekly quiz graphic artists whose work can be sued on ball fields all across America all around the world. Todd. Welcome welcome. Thank you busker. Good to see you here. Josh is. Well, likewise, right. Every week before we get to our quiz, and I'm now to behind Josh in this year's quiz tally. But before we get to that we always have cap talk in this week's cap talk is about defunct caps. Yeah. And you know, I think that the defunct teams teams like we'll throw a couple of out there. The one year wonder Seattle pilots the Houston Colt, forty five's the Brooklyn Dodgers Expos etcetera, etcetera, etcetera thinking this equity in the afterlife, and there's a mystery to them to me. So I thought it would be a good topic to talk, you know, couple of our favorite defunct caps. Maybe if you could put it down to one imagine a world where we're seeing go throw out a team. There's something really cool about that old pilots logo is funny, coincidentally that was just when I was in Seattle recently in a looking at that too. You know that that's pretty neat. Certainly in recent years, you've had some, but for me, no question about it. The Brooklyn Dodgers cap which on today pro fifteenth that would be appropriate. I don't have a Brooklyn Dodgers cap. It's it's one that I made a note during the course of the winter. I'm like, you know, what I get gotta get one of those next time in dodge. I'm in Dodger Stadium, whatever. Josh. Yeah. I mean, I clearly the the dodgers cap is classic. It's a great look the be certainly different from the Red Sox be which makes it cool. Yes. The low hanging fruit here is to go Expos just a great logo. Great hat. I prefer the all blue Expos hat as opposed to the red white and blue one, but I'm going to change a little bit. I actually like the old angels hat the navy angels hat with the red Bill with the capital with the halo. Not the lower case. A but the all red angels hat has never really done it for me. I like the blue and red one. Wow. That's a good choice. And it's interesting to just because if you remember a couple years ago, and we were talking greatest logos of all time. I had that angels Mark from the Nolan Ryan years say a very very high at the top of the list and was questioned in some instances, I'm gonna throw a couple out there. And I'm just going to say that you know, as with all of these things are personal memories. And how old we are. And where we. Grow up interest into it. I have a brother who's four years older than me. And I remember inheriting one of his like major league baseball season preview nine thousand nine hundred seventy books this tattered paperback and seeing you know, this is like well into the seventies. And seeing the Seattle pilots like what the heck are the Seattle pilots. And why do they have these hats that looked like airline pilots? So it was just there's this like I said enduring mystery about the Seattle pilots that intrigues me. But I do agree with Josh I think that the standard of the Expos as I had in my book last year winning ugly. There is something about that. And you know, it's within our collective memories. So, but I do like the white panels. I just think you know, you put a propellor on top. They're talking about low hanging fruit. The Houston Colt. Forty five's this forty five with an S just bizarre kind of put very direct messaging, and I think on the day of all days on Jackie Robinson day to acknowledge the greatness of Jackie and how he elevated that Brooklyn Dodgers cap and the uniform it is wholly appropriate. So one of these days will really dig deep, and we'll talk about like, the the the nineteen o o nine Tigers caps or will twisted around forget those. Yeah, that's right. There you go. Now, you mentioned that a lot of your memories are your favorite caps are tied to memories. I wonder if the Seattle pilots logo would be as noted as it is in be embedded our memories if not for the book ball four, what do you think they would? Of course was a a landmark book in baseball written by Jim Bowden where he? It was the first one he was a tell all let's face it. And all of a sudden Mickey Mantle became a human being with that with the release of that book to the degree that for decades Jim out was not allowed back at Yankee Stadium. He was not welcome in old timers day is that do you think part of the the legend of that team unquestionably? You know, right there in that era of new journalism. We can compare Jim Belton to you know, Tom Wolfer any all right. But yeah, I mean, he talks about the uniform, and they had these wacky uniforms. The uniform an were designed in such a way they were supposed to wear metallic belt buckles, like actual airline pilots where and the American would not let them wear that. You can imagine the glint coming off of that potentially in the day game. But yeah, I think he talked about that. And it's a franchise that lasted for one hundred sixty two games. It's just it's it's there's weirdness attached the visuals and the story, and of course, Jim bounce really getting on top of this thing. And and letting us. Into a world that none of us knew about before has definitely a lot to do with it. All right. Let's get to this week's quiz says I mentioned him to down now to Joshi's off to an early lead as he was last year. All right here, we go this team removed the image of their mascot from their uniforms because they deemed it, bad luck. And then they added it back seven decades later is it the White Sox. The giants the athletics for the pirates took the image of their mascot off of their uniforms because it was unlucky. And then they added it back seven decades later White Sox giants as higher. Oh, not feeling confident about this one. At all. Josh you wanna go first. I I know the answer. So I'd be happy to. But those aren't the rules BUSTER and I play by the rules. So you you still need to go. I all right. Gosh. Gosh, I'm gonna go athletics. I actually didn't know the answer. I had it between two the the as were one of them. But using history as my guide, I'm going to say the White Sox. Buster your manure? Yeah. Maybe. I was thinking black SOX scandal. And so I was thinking after that happened. They would take the little white sock off their their uniform. And then obviously they've they have since put it back. Well, it was kinda neck. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say Connie Mack nineteen twenty takes the elephant because you know. Okay. So he sold off the entire dynasty and the athletics. Basically, you know sink into the the the the the swamp of MLB for years. So they take the elephant off, and it kind of kicked around for a few years after that in the twenty s but if you remember in the late eighties on the cusp of another little dynasty, the as bring the elephant back. I think it was nineteen eighty seven and they appear in the World Series. Those couple of years and win the World Series in eighty nine over the giants. There you go. Speaking of dynasties headed toward another championships getting awfully cocky for still being down build them. I that. That's okay. We know this trajectory amused to it. We've seen this story before we read this story before Todd thanks for doing this. All right, boys. Always good talking to you. Jacob degrom was at Stetson university. He was a shortstop and for months, he resisted the idea of pitching. He flat out did not wanna pitch. I spoke to Pedone grams coach at Stetson and Steve morning ham. The Mets southeast crosscheck over in preparation for peace. We ran onto grom on ESPN dot com. Sunday about two grams reluctance to pitch then on Sunday followed up with the ground. Please give listen to some of that interview. If you can't eliminate it from the story that the summer before you junior year when you were gonna play summer ball. And coach said, hey, we don't have a best shortstop. We'd love to Eddie pitch. And you're like now, it's okay. I'll take some off is that. That's what it's been told to me a couple of people. Yeah. I didn't really know fitch- going into my junior year. That was the first I had really heard about it was once the fall practice started. Like, hey, you might use you to close, but you know, kinda struggled offensively and freshman and sophomore year. So I wanted I had a batting cage at my house, and I would take round balls almost every day with my dad. So some really thinking I was going to be playing some infield and being able to at least hit before pumps and stuff. And when I found out that wasn't the case thing since I figured I should probably work on what I thought I was going to be doing in college. But there's times when I look back at like, man, I wish I wouldn't have left. And then there's times I ended up having Tommy John surgery. I ended up getting hurt was that July and didn't have surgery till October. So who knows what would happen to Kelly kept throwing you know pitching. Yeah. You're right. The timing. You never know. So looking back. There's part of me. Like. Have playing in part of me is like, you know, maybe able to flow in sooner in the baseball gods. Never would've had he was a pitcher. Never what did you do that summer when instead of play on the summer both hit I would hit every day. And then like, I said take grounders almost every day. You know, something I did from when I was little with my dad and. The ended up putting a batting cage up at our house. And it was just something. We did he would be home from work about four thirty five over there to hit and take rounders Ebro. Do you have any kind of a summer job or anything like that? I don't know if I work that year. From when I was sixteen. I started working six fifteen or sixteen. I started working summers. Doing what I worked in a furnari for two years. And then I worked. At a sports complex into land Spurling's complex. We would know just take care of the fields in. It's all fields baseball fields and soccer fields. He said you were at a furnari. What's that? I never heard of that. It's plants. That's well. Okay. School Gaffey, Orion them, definitely furnari. Yes. And ferns. Wow. I never heard of that Pearson. Is right down the road from me. So it's Dilan Leon Barbara Bill Pearson. Think it's the fern capital of the world they ship all over the place to go on Clough arrangements. So when and the way that he described it he said when he asked you initially about being the closer you said can I still play shortstop? And then he goes. Yeah. You can. And then when they brought to you fifteen games into your junior year. And they said we're gonna move into the rotation. Yes. The same question about shortstop. He said well you can't play short on Saturday. Maybe on Tuesday and Wednesday. You'll be fine. What do you remember about that conversation? Yes. I didn't love it at first because I really did enjoy playing infield at the time. I mean hadn't pitched much, you know. I think the main reason they moved me there because I knew where else don't wanna baseball. So it was a work in progress with off speed and. You know, it was never really good in college. I didn't. I don't think everything started coming together. Till after I had my Tommy John surgery. The rehab crew that I had down. There knows some things with how through move my arm slot. The little bit to take some stress off my elbow. And that was really the first time that I had like a pitching program because that would play so I played some first after pigeon. College played Ryan a couple of times plays short fills. Never really, you know in just a pitching routine. So. Trying to figure out how to get out setting playing law was kind of tough for me. What was your? I mean, it's stab everyone says you you love to play shortstop. And you love that part of it. Did you have an inversion to pitching was at boring for you. I didn't wanna have to sit there and watch a bunch of games. I'd rather be playing them. You know, now, it's not bad because I have a set routine that I do to get ready. So it's like, I'm doing something, you know, in college, no clue really. I was very new to pitching. Thought it would be thought it'd be more fun. If I was able to play those games that I wasn't pitching. Have you back and say, boy if I hadn't switched the pitching what you what should be doing in life. You know, even when I was little the the dream was to play major league baseball. And you know, there's a lot of kids that say that. But I don't I don't think I ever had a plan before it it was that was playing a, and that's what I was going for whether it was once, you know, whether it was I wanted to be an infielder. But once I started pitching and got drafted as a pitcher of you know, I felt like it was time to really figure out how to do that. And try to learn everything I could from the people around to try to be the best. I could be on the mound. He said that he led watching you pitch last year. The thing that made in the most proud was how you reacted to the versity. I mean start out that it was a close game often runs wouldn't be scored. He said he could never see change in your demeanour. Where do you think that came from? I try to keep it pretty, you know, not get too high not to get too low, my dad's real low key like that easy going, and you know, I had a bad temper when I was younger real young. And then kind of grew out of it and on the field. No, not really on the field. I don't always played pretty even keel. Just I never wanna let anybody on the other side. Let them know that something bothered me. So it just try to keep it keep it under control out there. You know, there's times around very frustrated, but you know, like I said about last year. These guys they were more frustrated than I was you know, they were out there grinding away trying to score run for me and just weren't able to do it. And you know, I I'm very appreciative of how they went about it. They all all of them chew professionals. You know, they all felt that. But it's part of the game. You know, it seems like every time I matched up with somebody. They threw the ball. Really? Well, and we paddled we just weren't able to win those baseball games. Thank you Leach, your tweets rests of the Bleacher tweets busters start with this one. From the starting block fittingly at the starting block Czyz the talk before the season for the giants was that Madison. Bumgarner would be the player to bring back decent prospects. Given the struggles of so many bullpens and the giants bullpen actually being pretty good. Do you think the pen will actually bring the assets at the deadline block? You don't have volatile bullpens can be and you get the feeling that a guy who's really hot right now. Who knows where he's going to be in June, July. That's what it's gonna come down to for so many of these relievers in what their actual value is once we get closer to the deadline. How healthier they and how are they throwing PK Steinberg next up at PK Steinberg wants to know, what do you think is the biggest reason for you on mancado hot start in nineteen because to me it seems like a complete one eighty from previous seasons. I didn't check the numbers became on this. But I guarantee you that if I went into that fan grabs paid for a Moncada the percentage of him chasing out of his own would increase dramatically. I've seen so many hitters. We've seen improvement this year and you go back and you're like, Yep. That's what the guy's doing Moncada. It's always been about the chase rate, and you're assuming if he's having success that's probably gotten better a lot of Bleacher tweets came in BUSTER about that mount Rushmore of baseball one of them is from Robert Beretta at holler at rob says BUSTER, I noticed there were no pitchers mentioned in the mount Rushmore of baseball. All can we get some love for the hurlers? Please. Josh I'm gonna have you chime in on this in a second to give me your mount Rushmore. We're going back and forth with Carl the other day. And I mean, Babe Ruth has to be on there. Okay. Hank Aaron has to be on their Jackie Robinson is historical figure has to be on there. And I've got Willie Mays on there. But I can't think of a pitcher and look sandy Colfax amazing career. Walter Johnson sei-hyung, I can't think of a pitcher who would supersede any of those. What about you me neither meeting there? And I'd love to say that I disagree like yourself. I'm a huge Colfax guy. But he just in order to put him in. You're going to bump somebody off. And you just can't do that in. I got love for hurlers to obviously. But I just can't see sandy Koufax or any other pitcher superseding any of the four guys that you put on there. My mount run. Ours is exactly the same as yours. I hate to say it because I hate to agree with you. Finally BUSTER this one from Toaff at t Jost fourteen with all this talk about game. Of thrones bustard has me wondering do you watch anything other than sports sitcoms? Dramas maybe some law and order brands a lot of movies watch a lot of movies. I came thrones. It's funny because everyone's excited about I I have never seen an episode of game of thrones. Meaning there, and it's not I'm we're kind of losers. I think right. But here's the thing. I have a good at I have a good excuse this runs on Sunday night. Right. And I've been working Sunday baseball for nine years. So probably not a surprise. But yeah, I'm a big movie buff. And I'm sure Josh you can recognize this line from one of the greatest movies of all time you ready for it. And I'm ready to days ago. I saw vehicle that could hold that Tanka. You wanna get outta here? You talked to me. No my cousin Vinny or saw we're talking about road warrior milk Gibson, the critical scene in the movie come on. Yeah. And you're stralia you crap about my Australian accent, yours is way worse way. Worse of mad. We gotta here from Bleacher Twitter about that. Please. When you do when you talk smack, Tom. It wasn't good. I need I need to heart and head up a little bit. And tonight. Can I get a reset tomorrow? No, no, no. Your one chance. I can't wait for people to get after you use the hashtag Bleacher tweets. Man. That's it for today might thanks to Jacob degrom to Bob Kendrick, Tim Kirk Jin to Josh macrey. Who else we think in here? I take oh. And Todd rate up top radio quiz. I know exactly have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast if you'll playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pod center. Baseball ten night the podcast.

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NPR News: 08-16-2020 10AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 3 months ago

NPR News: 08-16-2020 10AM ET

"Live from NPR news I'm trial Snyder Democrats in Congress are pushing back against the controversial cost cutting moves at the US Postal Service. They say they plan to introduce legislation to address the cuts widely blamed for male delays. Ahead of the November Elections Virginia Congressman Jerry Conley chairs a House panel that oversees the postal. Service. In the immediate run Congress has limited options, but we're clearly going to highlight this issue. We're going to introduce legislation to roll back these so-called operational efficiencies. We're GONNA work with the men and women who worked for the postal service to ensure that they will continuous. They always have in the past to make mail in ballots. A priority only spoke to NPR, this weekend Democrats accuse the trump administration of trying to disrupt mail in ballots and there are reports this weekend that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi may call house members back from their summer recess president trump is defending his postmaster general and speaking from his club at Bedminster New Jersey this weekend, the president sought to blame Democrats for the postal services financial problems. Last week the president said he opposes Democrats oppose proposed a funding for mail in balloting because he doesn't want it used for the election. Democrats hold their presidential nominating convention this week the coronavirus pandemic has forced organizers to make the convention of virtual event instead of holding it in a packed arena. NPR's Don Gonyea reports the plan wise for a big democratic gathering in Milwaukee chosen because Wisconsin is a key battleground state. Instead delegates will watch online speeches will also be remote Leah. DAUGHTRY was in charge of two previous democratic conventions. She says, even in this virtual format, the conventions still needs to send a strong message but at the party's values, what does the party's? Vision, how is this nominee going to take us further? How are we planning to move the nation vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris is scheduled for Wednesday night presidential nominee Joe Biden is on Thursday don GONYEA NPR news president trump's younger brother has died NPR's Frank O. R. Donas reports on the President's emotional response president trump released a statement Saturday night stating that his brother passed away peacefully the president wrote that he was not just his brother but his best friend that he will be greatly missed but that they will meet again. His memory will live on in my heart forever the president said, what else statement on Robert Trump's death did not give a cause the president visited his brother in the hospital on Friday before going to his golf club in. New Jersey for the weekend secretary of State Mike pompeo is now when the Dominican Republic has plane touchdown in Santo Domingo a short time ago he's leading a US delegation attending today's presidential inauguration there, and you're listening to NPR news. In Michigan, the white nationalist group, the prow boys clashed with counter protesters in the streets of Kalamazoo this weekend. Nathan. Danson is a pastor of First Congregational Church. Says he helped organize what he thought would be a peaceful counterprotest and then things escalated. Boys had with him some glass bottles that they were using to smash people in the face of course, carrying flags they use those to beat people up. It was pretty horrific police say there were cast, but it's not clear how many wing demonstrators also clashed with counter protesters in Georgia and in Portland. Oregon Portland has seen nightly protests against pres police brutality for more than two months. Portland police declared a riot overnight. Major, League Baseball set today to recognize the founding of the Negro Leagues One hundred years ago in Kansas City Greg excellent reports move comes amid calls for social change pushed. In the wake of George Floyd's death in May. The Kansas City royals are playing their Sunday game in Minneapolis. Negro. Leagues Baseball. Museum. President Bob. Kendrick. Says there's an important connection between today's occurrences and the social conditions the Negro Leaguers played under a century ago. Yes we preserve very precious piece of baseball Americana. But. We're also here to help people. What others have had to endure. To go onto greatness. Jackie Robinson broke Major League Baseball's color line in nineteen, forty seven with the Brooklyn dodgers twenty seven years after the Negro Leagues were founded for NPR news I'm Gregg in. Minneapolis. This NPR news.

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Graig Kreindler, Baseball Painter

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

00:00 sec | 10 months ago

Graig Kreindler, Baseball Painter

"No one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open and secure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot com slash flexible these sporting line on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. Here's Jeremy Schaap as we speak this week in one hundred anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League is being celebrated particularly at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City Missouri. There's been an exhibit there for the last year celebrating the history and the rich traditions. The legacy of the Negro Baseball Leagues. Of course we're so. Many brilliant African American players plied their talents before the integration of Major League Baseball in the twentieth century by Jackie Robinson in nineteen forty seven with the Brooklyn dodgers. One of the remarkable aspects of the exhibit. Taking place are a series of oil portrait's of prominent players from the Negro Baseball Leagues by the artist. Who JOINS US now? Greg Kreindler Greg. Thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. Jeremy Greg you paint these remarkable These remarkable oil portraits and scenes from baseball's history. How did how did fine artists such as yourself choose baseball as his primary topic well You know it kind of started with my dad's baseball card collection You know when I was very little He He grew up in the forties and fifties and collected baseball cards. As you know most kids aged it and his mother Summarily through most of them out like most mothers. Did I had that? Experience is a little more complicated. But it's the same general store. Yeah yeah same. Same kind of thing But Yeah he was able to hold onto a few of them and I guess when I was younger I kind of discovered them and and you know he used to tell me about the players that he watched and and loved you know Mickey Mantle. Yogi Berra's was the Yankee San still the Yankee Sam and that's why you're greg but GR AIG adding the third Baseman Greg. Now you're the only to gre. Aig's I think I've ever heard of Craig's it's so well they're not many of us. We're speaking with bread Kreindler. The artist The baseball artist remarkably gifted painter at this point in time two hundred thirty portraits of his are being exhibited at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City Missouri It's Tackler Museum and it celebrating right now. The one hundredth anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League which was organized by Rube Foster in nineteen twenty and February nineteen twenty of course Negro Leagues Existed Before Nineteen Twenty. But that was the formation of the preeminent Black Baseball League. The Negro National League in Nineteen Twenty and there are two hundred thirty two hundred and thirty portraits. You've done right there. Five by seven. They're amazing. How long does it take to pay two hundred and thirty portraits? Oh Man Well the project was about a two and a half to three years long so yeah it. It took a while Each painting took you know. Probably at least five to six hours. But you know some. We're ten hours twelve hours but then the research that goes into each painting that can usually that can usually go past You know any painting time that I put it to easily. In some of these players of course are are very prominent figures known by all true fans of the Games. Whether it's a Josh Gibson or a Buck Leonard or a James Cool Papa Ballard Oscar Charleston but some are more Obscure at how were these players? Chosen as your subjects Well the the fellow who put the Who put the show together? The Guy who commissioned at all Jay Caldwell he he kind of had a vision for This thing you know not only representing the stars of the Negro Leagues and you know the outside or leagues but But also you know kind of the role players or people who had interesting stories in one way or another and I think the scope of it. He just kind of wanted to to show. You know a slice of everything if that makes sense. We're speaking with the artist. Greg Kreindler about His paintings which are now being exhibited starting this week in celebration of the one hundred th anniversary of the formation of the Negro National League being exhibited at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum it is in Kansas City Missouri. Correct correct yes. It is okay. I'm not being facetious. The museum is in Kansas City Missouri. I think it's been open for about ten years or so They do great great work. At the museum celebrating the rich heritage of African American baseball predating the integration of the game in nineteen forty seven. I'm looking now at your twitter. Feed at a portrait of the Great Buck O'Neil Who is one of the better players in the Negro Leagues in its waning days and then of course became Kind of an an eloquent Historian of the League's spokesperson for the League's later in life and Was among the key figures in Ken Burns documentary on Baseball. It's IT'S A. It's a great portrait. obviously A none of your subjects were sitting for you. Most of them are no longer with us. how did you go about finding the photographs that you would model your oil portrait's after well. Luckily I do a lot of friends. Who are you know into collecting people who are in the memorabilia industry and they were able to help with a lot of those players? But you know it just. It took a lot of digging. You know whether it was old newspapers or or you know whatever I just I kind of went to basically every length like could to find images of some of these guys and it was definitely not easy these You know the Negro Leagues were not As well documented visually as As the Whiteley so it it was just kinda tough kind of finding the look of this history and trying to get it right. Is there a way I mean I? I don't much about portraiture but obviously it's more than just It's it's about finding a depth to the subjects that goes beyond the physical characteristics of whoever it is you're painting and when you're we're painting legendary figures such as a Josh Gibson or an Oscar Charleston or a Satchel page whose personalities are even well known These days along after their deaths. How'd you imbue those portrait's with something beyond just what they look like? Well it's you know. I think what I what I would try to do or what I did try to do. Is You know I would read up on on each painting or on each subject. I was painting and I try to kind of internal wise. I guess the character that that they were or at least from what accounts tell us and I I kind of. I hope that some of that kind of gets imbued into the painting. You know it's kind of an intangible thing I find I think my main concern was actually just trying to to depict them you know kind of accurately as accurately as possible so so. You're giving the viewer kind of a look at what these guys actually looked like. And you're showing them that they were real people that breathe the same air that that we actually breed. So it's you know it's it's kind of like I'm trying to act like a a visual reporter if that makes sense just kind of showing what life was like and what it was like speaking with Greg. Kreindler the oil portrait painter If you WANNA look at some of these I it's it's always challenging having a radio segment about something visual a photograph or painting but but if you want to see some of these grey paintings and they're beautiful you can go to Greg's Twitter Account. It's Greg G. R. Aig Kreindler K. R. E. N. D. E. L. E. R. on twitter his twitter handle and and. I think you have a website as well and I'm looking now at Your portrait of the Great Leroy Satchel page. He's not wearing a Kansas City. Monarchs were I think. You also pitch the Pittsburgh Crawford's uniform. He's got the bees in. That's that stands for what Greg Well the beans are just the Birmingham Black Barons and basically I did. I think I did about sixteen portraits of Satchel in sixteen different uniforms. Because as you've mentioned he pitched with the with the Crawford's on the monarchs and a bunch of other teams there are actually there. Were actually more that I could not find images of him pitching with them. There were of ones that I could so You know there are sixteen. Tortures probably could have been about fifty. What did it mean to you to be part of this celebration at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City Well I mean to say to say that it's an honor. It doesn't really do that. Were Justice I mean the fact that I could be involved in anything like this to celebrate you know not not just the Negro Leagues but You know not not just impact on baseball but just you know when the country as a whole world as a whole you know in civil rights. It's it's just something that you know. I'm going to look back on years from now and I think it's going to be one of the highlights of my career and my life and you know the fact that that Jay the guy he put it together Jay Caldwell he the fact that you know he wanted me to do this and that he kind of was the architect behind it. He and Bob Kendrick road is well. It's just it's just. I think it's something that's that's Kinda magical and I think it's just so important to kind of show people that these these guys old names you know that they that they were real but they were real people and and things back then. We're we're very different Greg Kreindler's portrait's of two hundred thirty figures from Negro Leagues. Baseball are on display at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City. Starting this week. They're really remarkable. Greg and they're just bursting with vitality beautiful It's it's It's a pleasure having you on the show and thank you for this great work. Thank you Jeremy. I appreciate you having me on. I'm Jeremy Shop and you listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN APP. Beginning at six am eastern time.

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Not Wearing a Seatbelt

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

00:00 sec | 3 months ago

Not Wearing a Seatbelt

"Baseball tonight, the podcast this is the baseball tonight podcast for Monday August Seventeenth Two thousand twenty producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut is Taylor. Shrank. I'm buster only vac-vacation Taylor at you know it was it was fun being away but I gotta say I think more than any other year because it's truncated season I found myself paying attention to what was going on normally when I go away and vacation one, hundred, sixty, two, game season. You really do turn off the phone you you keep the laptop close. You're not watching television in every day. I was following the news I could tell I saw you tweeden i. saw you re tweeting you know, and this is after you got on meet you told me to put the phone down on vacation. Obviously, you're a little bit more important than I am but I I definitely noticed that. So I hope it didn't impact your your time off negativity. Man I'm telling you if I had been sending pictures of the great weather and the beautiful. Lake George like eighty degrees. It was amazing. You would have been jealous. When you went on vacation weeding out pictures look at this beautiful place a man. And you guys are not. Oh Man. So let's get the news notes of the day. The Blue Jays have played top hitter Boba shed on the injured list with a knee sprain he was sent for an MRI. There is concerned that this is more than a minor injury. Jet Leaves the Blue Jade's in average at three, sixty, one on base percentage three, ninety-one in hits with twenty five homers he has been tremendous at the outset of his career. The braves placed Ronald Cudi. Junior on the injured list with a sore wrist they'd been hoping that it would get better hasn't they made his assignment on the injured list retroactive to last Monday still hoping that maybe it's going to be able to play in her upcoming Sunday night game between the phillies and the braves. The national splits pitcher. Stephen Strasburg on the injured list with a nervous you in his hand tape Martinez, the nationals manager address the injury get follow up Monday. Nervous on his hand I will say what happened. So I don't think this is going to get better soon we tried all right now we're just going to try to save get healthy, and we're going to be talking with Tim Kirk about that injury about the injury to Dj Lemay Hughes placed on the injured list with a a thumb sprain the Yankees are going to release more information about that situation later, today Aaron judge who is on the injured list with a calf issue. told reporters yesterday that he feels one hundred percent and it's clearly disagreed with the organization's decision to place him on the I L. Aaron. Boone. told reporters yesterday that role this chapin they're closer will be activated today they played game three of their four game series with the Red Sox last night on Sunday baseball and Mike Ford did a Babe Ruth type thing the two Oh and that fall hit pretty hard outdoors right-center field that one back there on its way and that has gone. Homerun for Mike Ford is of the year at the Yankees at two more, and it is now four to one. POOK SHABBY ESPN radio with that call the final score therefore to Oakland took care of the giants again, market semi and helping out. Only triple two homers single here's a deep drive to left way back Dickerson will turn and watch that one fly. Do you believe this? It's eleven to two in favor of the as Simeon on low is with a two run homer and that's his third of the year three long balls for the as in the inning an inning in which they've scored nine times. What a weekend for the is in San Francisco. Gay destroyed the giants that from the as cast and we're GONNA be talking about the as in relation to there whether or not. They're the most prohibitive favorite in baseball to win their division a dodgers rookie catcher made his debut in style. Hits one deep down the right field line that. OUTTA here. Does I career majorly get back. Home Run for cable relays. Come to the majors in the biggest way. In the biggest way on your first swing, the Astros and the mariners tied to all bottom of the ninth inning when this happened. At Tucker, hit high in the air to right field that since back four ATHOL wall looking up say. See you later. Nile. Tucker with a walk off hold on the bottom of the night and the Astro's beat the mariners three to. Robert, Ford KBM seven ninety and the white sox and cardinals the white sox bounce back from losing a double header to the cardinals on Saturday you MOCATTA and US monogrammed at homered in the bottom of the fifth inning Jose Bray was next to the plate. And pitch lie down the left field line singing, the corner and this ball is. God. Back. To back to back. As A. Lies wanted to the bullpen and left it just state. Fair. Three homer inning and it's six nothing white sox had from wgm and you know what? White Sox weren't done free to Lord I fly ball down the left field line. All is hooking toward the corner and it's going to be. God. Foreign Roe. v Law Jimenez just kept it fair to the bullpen. Now before we get to Tim Sarah One more thing, the NBA playoffs tip off tonight from Orlando who's poised to make it through the first round Doris Burke brings her analysis of the playoff field that's an espn. Subscriber every get your podcasts. Talking about erectile dysfunction is easy. 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He's never started a lawnmower in his entire life and he told me if he never drives a car arrest of his life, he would be a happy man. So we learned a lot about who we had a tremendous amount of on but he even weirder than me and if possible he weirder than you. Up telling you like I, get it that he's a city kid. But really never at some point at a friend's house like, Hey, do you mind if I mow your lawn just out of curiosity I, get the cow thing like you need access to cows right but. Along come on because, I know you you and I, both have refused to pay anyone to mow our lawns. Yes. well, I'll have to explain that things change but but pod I asked him also if ever changed, the oil is our. And there was this tremendous pause and he said Oh God. No. Like. Like it was it was the stupidest question ever out. So we had we had a lot of fun on the podcasts buster, but either say were very, very happy to have you back. Well, again, thanks for filling in I. GotTa Tell Your name came up behind the scenes during our Sunday night broadcast last night we had on Bob Kendrick the president of the Negro Leagues? Museum. Jeff define is our producer and I mentioned to me as I was hearing Bob Kendricks great array of stories and he goodness he tells them so well, he's always so much fun to listen to and I'm like you know what a great pay per view event we ought to have like dueling banjos, Tim Kirk and Bob Kendrick storytelling showdown would you be in for that? Yeah I asked him last night about Oscar Charleston. Who Buck O'Neil told me is the greatest player. He's ever seen better than Willie mays asked about Oscar and it was fascinating. Stats numbers, stories about everyone in the name League and probably the big too. So count me in anything to help with that easier, which is a work of art. Yeah one, hundred percent of man. Some people are just good at telling stories. You are one of them, Bob? Kendrick is one of them for sure and Jeff. As soon as I mentioned to him, he was laughing behind the scenes and actually was gonna work you in but of course, in the third out happened and we had to move on So so last week was having a conversation with a general manager about what the way the seasons playing out and he posed it this way he said, who is the biggest favourite to win any division given what's gone on in hit in his mind? The answer is totally obvious and I'm curious to see if you would pass his quiz. To me the most the easiest team to win the division is the dodgers I think the the rockies are pretty good and and padres are pretty good but the dodgers are great and they're starting to pull away. So to me, they're the most obvious choice to win the division and obviously you disagree with me I. Well, I'm just going to defer to this general manager who would tell you tim you were completely wrong. The answer is the Oakland athletics okay. In his mind because watching what's going on with the Houston Astros, these guys are dropping like flies in their pitching staff. Some of the veterans on the team have really struggled questions among evaluators, watching them how many guys really want to be there at this moment given all the difficulties that they're going through. You know the Rangers aren't very good. The angels aren't really that good right. Now, the Seattle Mariners are rebuilding and on the other end, Oakland is just killing it. Yeah. Buster I I need you need to. We need to tape the SA- get because I forgot about the a he as are the answer to that question mustard there are they hit the ball in the ballpark with anybody there infield defense is Great. They're pitching their power arms into rotation frankie montage, and in the bullpen are spectacular and we just saw the astros the other day buster and I know they're starting pitching has been much better lately fact said really good lately but. They don't look like the same. Of Team to me Jose, Altuve Bay who's a great little player had three of the water swings. I've ever seen him take in the same game the game we did last Monday. I am not worried that the astros aren't GonNa make the playoffs I think they'll find a way to do that but they're not going to beat the as in that division of I could have answered the question again I would've said, yes, as are the answer. Sorry. We continue to injury news over the weekend. We learned that Stephen Strasburg is going to be out in the estimation of manager Dave Martinez Awhile that that to me if in fact, he doesn't pitch again this year that I would probably take the nationals off off the board is a team that could win the the back to back championships. What do you think? Yeah I agree buster in fact I worry if for their sake, if they're gonNA, make the playoffs without him because with losing red zone and other injuries to their team, I, want. So can't do this by itself even though he's trying to that the only way that the best way for that team to repeat go to the playoffs to a budget good things in October was with those three great starting pitchers at the top. We can't forget how great Strasbourg was half especially last year and especially in October, you take him out of the equation and I just don't see them out pitching people deep into octo concern in the eighties organization about. LA- mayhew takes his swing on Saturday they senate protests. Aaron Boone yesterday before the Sunday night baseball game all he would say was it's a sprained. He wouldn't be specific you wouldn't give it time line. He also said that unlike the two thousand eighteen injury that Lemay, who had the same type of injury he didn't break his thumb. So that was good news, but it does seem like that he's GonNa wind up going on this ablest maybe for two or three weeks he's GonNa be out for an extended period for the Yankees Spoi- I you talk about an important player. Yeah and buster. I. Loved Your note last night about the first thing that Dj does when he shows up at the ballpark as he puts his hat which I love and and I I know he showed up to camp for the first time this spring after his cove experience the look on Aaron Boone's phase and the the glee in his voice that the machine is what he called him. The machine has showed up. That's how much lemay you mean to that team and to take him out of line of even for two or three. Weeks seriously affects our offense, but I think it affects their entire countenance what he shows up everything changes. So they're still gonNA make the playoffs. They're still GonNa win that division, but they're not the team that they need to be unless either to top the order hit line drives all over the field city. What you just said, maybe feel good about you know at least being a nerd to some degree. Okay. The fact that that story I talked to Zach Britton on Saturday and he told me that story about how when DJ shows up. Guys Walk into the clubhouse maybe some of them are checking their iphones maybe then some of them are going through the mail they're Kinda lounging his teammates have noticed that when DJ walks into the club, the very first thing he does is reach up on the hook, hold down the Yankee cap and pull it down on his head and that amount of Vino played with DJ Lemay, of course in Colorado and he told his teammates. Yeah. It's the same thing he did in Colorado exact loves that and he Talked about how old school that is and I'm I? I said to him I said it's like that kid who you know in the first day of Little League would wears uniform to the school because he wanted to be ready by five thirty for that first game and he laughed he said that's exactly what it is and that's that's the type of guy. He is just absolutely no nonsense that I've heard from people on the team that he's absolutely willing to call guys when he feels like the effort is lacking. Right Right He is a baseball gym rat on the highest order. I don't think he said a complete sentence since he arrived with the Yankees which is so good. He just keeps quiet. He says, he speaks twenty two shows up and kicks your butt at all. He does you know I had an interesting exchange with him last year during the the postseason when I was doing post game interviews. remember the player that interviewed was it might have been gleyber Torres, but DJ was next and he was waiting in the wings and before we started before the camera was ready he looked at me and he said Hey. Interview and I said he did really well. and Dj's just looked at me very. Again, I'm not very good at that. was I was really It struck me he wanted to know how is young teammate did? And at the same time he was like, yeah, you know I that's just not something I'm ever going to be good at and that's fine. Right and to interrupt Buster Chase Utley did that to me very early on in his career I went to interview him about what a really good player. He was very early in his career and he was most boring interview of all time and at the end of the interview he looked at me after we were done, they said sorry about that like I know what you wanted from me but I'm not gonNA give it to you because that's not what I do. That's not what I care about, and there's certainly some DJ lemay you or chase utley Dj mate. All right. This was Aaron Judge yesterday talking with reporters. Of course, he's on the injured list with a calf thing pretty clear. There was a difference of opinion between Aaron judge the Yankees give. Listen Tim. I've been healthy and. Then feeling great, who was the Best I've felt in a while you know so it's Pretty frustrated. You know. The input on the I l. or something it's just A. Couple of days thing, but you know just working with the Yankees staff. Doctors it's just. More precautionary in probably best overall the mess you know one week push through it and eventually. You know miss three to four weeks so. Yeah anytime office is not good. You know that's why I was begging for Just a couple of days you know not really been dating I. Don't need ten days to be feeling good artificial hundred percent now. So It's tough being away especially now with G OUT AND DJ? Out. It makes it tough but it's all precautionary stuff and we'll be back there on Saturday Tim I. They were putting on a good face for the public. I suspect it was less polite but behind the scenes. Yeah I was surprised because I did not see them putting him on the injured list after the people I talked to him in the next day he went on and this is frustrated Aaron judge as he should be having a great year. He's been hurt a lot he loves to play by Air Booth Brian. CASHMAN. Too Smart to make the steak with judge all they're thinking about is we're good enough to make it to October but we gotta have this guy a thousand percent in October and the best way to do that is to give them a week now an extra week. So. When he comes back, I'm sure I'm sure he'll pull it together very quickly and he'll be a great player the rest of the way. But I was surprised when he went on the. I. L.. So, before the Sunday night game I, I reached out to Alex started as a great job of the Elias Sports, Bureau and asked him about the Red Sox is six one year a going into that Sunday game and look you can't compare what happens during the entire two thousand twenty season to any of the season because the context is so different but I. Asked him Hey, through the first twenty, one games in any red sox season have they ever had any are a as bad as six point one zero and the answer is no this is the worst him my God they are terrible and as you watch this team and you think about where they're pitching is I don't know when they're gonna be competitively relevant again. Yeah Buster those gave up eight runs in six consecutive games eight or more. They never done that in the history of the red. SOx. They gave up forty two run in a four game series to the raise the last time they that was during that Yankee amazing garage in one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight arrays had never scored forty two runs at a four game series. The Red Sox are set records every day four futility. When it comes to pitching and you're right if there were a light at the end of the tunnel would be one thing but they don't have anything coming in the minor leagues and I told you we we did a game on TV Josh osage started and then Matte Hall started the next day. These are the red sox. You can't run that out there every day at Fenway and expect to get away with it and I. Think, we all better get used to the fact that they're going to be terrible terrible pitching team the rest of this year, and they've got a ways to go to get that corrected for next year. So the craziest story to follow from afar when I was on vacation was what was going on with the Cleveland Indians of course Zach please sack the team found out that he broke protocol left the team hotel and So they sent him in a rental car back to Cleveland and it was not meeting Mike Clever who's friends with police spoken his behalf defended him, and then the Indians subsequently found out that he also had broken protocol didn't mention that in the team meeting and then in the middle of the week, exactly sack went on instagram probably not a good idea to his case here was exactly sack talking about the media him. The media really. Terrible. Man The the media's terrible and they do some evil evil things to create stories and make things sound better. Mace need hours. And truthfully disgusted the way the media's handled this whole situation surrounding thirteen. Any sort of explain what happened in regards to the CDC guidelines media is portraying meaning my. Best friend and teammate to be malicious with our actions. We're really. You know not justifying what we did because we left the hotel. And according to new rules reward supposed to leave. But according to the CDC and these guidelines with around. We were practising safe practices in a small group with people who you know have been tested. and. Came back to to our our curfew lay, which was ten PM. And are. Clearly been exposed as being bad teammates, bad people and. Dragged across the mud. and Tim there was a t meeting among the Indians players subsequently, and the Indians decided is and Mike Clovinger Zach. To incredibly important members of team to the alternate site they basically temporarily kicked them off the team and from what? I. Understand. Some of the teammates were so mad at these two guys that if they had been allowed on the team there would have been other people that opted out of the season. They were so angry with them and that's what I when I saw that sex video I was like, do you not understand? It's not the media criticism that you shouldn't worry about it's the your teammates are furious at you. That's worthy animas really coming from, and that's what you should be dealing with. What did you think? Buster it's easy to not like the media, but that please act is so far off base on this one, and then to do his rant while he's driving in his car maybe. On my gosh, he's it's his you're exactly right. It's one thing to go to war with the media, but when your teammates are. Angrier. You than the media is really have problems. He should've thought that through and that's part of the reason they sent him away was because not only did he make a mistake and no one call him a bad person either they said he made a mistake which he did. But to make it worse with that, that's the reason he got sent away and you know those are two good pitchers clever a great pitcher. They really need those guys but I was told from the beginning of this Tito Prank Conan. told me right before the whole thing started I'd say what to expect. He said if we start getting sick our players, that's what you know the Games in big trouble. He said because nobody nobody has taken better care of the safety and protocols than our team and that was part of the reason that those guys were dealt was. So harshly as they should have been that the Indians have been so diligent about doing everything right and then those guys did everything wrong and then Zach Zach made it even worse. I. Asked someone who has knowledge of that of that. Team about you know the level of anger of the players toward these two guys and I was told that on a scale of one to ten toward cleven jer because he was not honest with his teammates in that meeting, it was a ten on a scale of one to ten with please Zach. It was a six and a half on a scale of one to ten and then the video. came out and then ratcheted up to a ten. If I were. You know buys the guys if I were friend of these guys are firing agent to these guys. I would say you both of you have so much work to do in terms of making it right with teammates and you better you better basically league move forward and do everything you can to satisfy them forget about the media forget about making. Your your case publicly. If you WANNA join this team, you have to make it right with the guys in the room. What would you say? Yeah, but buster comes down to one thing. The best thing anyone could tell you as an athlete is your team. The worst thing anyone can tell you as an athlete is you're a bad teammate and right now those guys are viewed as bad teammates by their teammates. They got a lot of work to do good luck. I. Was really happy that the cardinals swept that double header on Saturday as they return to action. How about you? I was too I was worried buster. I was worried that Adam wainwright. One of the great guys you'll ever be would would get hurt or something bad would happen with that much time off I was happy that nobody got hurt and it was built tribute to those guys to go out and play as crisply as they did against the good team because and they better get used to it because they had more double is to go from here and I'm not sure how close to sixty aims they're GONNA get but they've got their hands full now and at least they got off to a good start with. All Right Tim thanks for doing this and again, thanks for filling in last week. It was a block buster. Thank you and if I may all kidding aside, we really miss you but your boy Taylor is way better than you at this. He set it up. So easily that all add to sit down with sit down at my computer and he took care of the rest. 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Yeah thank you so much yet last Thursday I got to call the national debt scam with cliff floyd and Brian Kenny was kind of a stack cast broadcast a little bit like woody spn did last night and it was a lot of fun I mean got to get in a lot of great numbers. Obviously, it's not math class is not too much with numbers as sort of the way I see the game which you're pretty familiar with this point you know. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. That's why we've been having you how many years on the podcasts like five five years at this point, four, five years you digging into all your your knowledge in your information. Yeah I think it's four years now and exactly I mean you know I feel like sometimes people get. Turned off with the concept of analytics numbers, any of that, but people love history and that's Hafer baseball just talking about it right and the rest of it were just analyzing what's going on right before we play the numbers game today one, oppose the same question to you that I did Tim after conversation I had with the general manager he said to me that there is clearly a pro one significant prohibitive favorite to win its division. Okay and I asked him the question and he got the answer wrong according to the general manager I spoke with going to pose that to you which team do you view as the most prohibitive favorite to win their division? Interesting is it the AIDS? That's exactly right. You got the answer right? Tim didn't get right. They are just rolling in general was stuck in about the astros with all the injuries and You know different veterans struggling with like there's no way that anyone's GonNa Catch Oakland at this point what do you think? Yeah, I mean just looking at second place teams I feel like you know it's not at all what we expected from the Astros but they're they seem like one of the week or second place teams, I. Mean I suppose that the cubs are in pretty good spot you know the brewers happen it looked great. As. Early, as you said, absolutely, rolling in I've got some numbers about that much we'll get to. In a minute or two, but it just there one of those teams that feels like really can't lose can't lose two in a row, can't lose that many games after getting off to a little bit of a shaky start. But since those first few games they've been outstanding let's play the numbers game number three, number three is ten. So the white sox hit bore straight home runs yesterday they were the the tenth team to hit four straight home runs in a game. They've done it once before on August fourteenth two, thousand eight knows were hit by Jim Thome Paul Jericho Alexi Ramirez Wanjurri Bay the only other teams other. Only other team excuse me to do it twice as them in the national. So ten times actually ten instances I should say and it was off this poor rookie Roel Ramirez who's making his major league debut I felt so badly for him watching this play out nobody expects this to be your Major League debut. He was the ninth pitcher since at least nineteen o one to allow for more home runs at his major league debut the first of the allow them consecutively or even in the same inning, and he's still a major leaguer which I certainly am not none of us are so still an accomplishment but quite the inning. Number two. Number two four. So speaking of as they want on Friday and on Saturday despite trailing by four more runs in the ninth inning against my mother's giants. So they became just the fourth team in the modern era to in back to back games despite trailing by four more runs in the ninth inning the twenty seven angels did it Nineteen seventy-one Tigers and nineteen thirty three pirates and on. Friday Stephen for Scotty. Hit another Grand Slam joining Rondell white in two thousand and three as the only players in the expansionary with a walk off Grand Slam and a game time Grand Slam in the ninth inning or later in the season and nobody's ever had three ninth inning Grand Slam season. So if he hits another and it feels like hit a grand slam every week. So it seems pretty realistic than he would set that record. Number One. Number one hundred fourteen point one. So that was the exit velocity unfriendly vile his second home run on Sunday against the Tigers. It was an absolute shot. It went into those bushes in Centerfield in Detroit is the hardest hit home run by Indians player cracked by stat casts, which has since twenty fifteen and on Friday he hit a home run that was four, hundred, sixty, two feet, which is the second longest home run by an Indian player tracked by Stack cast and I just absolutely love this quote he had after the game about the. Home run yesterday which Mandy Bell posted up. He said it was a fastball right in the middle. Wow that was great I got really impressed I had that ball really far I. got it right on the barrel and Froemel. Race is just one of those really fun guys. So for him to be hitting home runs like this and us to be getting quotes like that I just absolutely love it. All right before we go and ask you about a pitcher's off to a tremendous start randy DOB NAK of the twins who I think is He's he does have such an unusual background undrafted born in South Park, Pennsylvania So far this year four, point four, one record with a one point four two hear a exchanged messages within the other day about the improvement in his sinker and he's always been a ground ball pitcher but this year has rates have jumped significantly what he's seeing him. Yeah so as you said such a great story and he got, he got his start in Pittsburgh this year and I was watching the twins broadcasting. I had all of these pictures of him like sitting in the stands as basically an adult because of story, everything and I just absolutely students I just wanted to say that first of all but as you're saying I, mean his ground ball rate even having always been a sinker baller kind of pitcher whose ground ball rate has skyrocketed this year at six point five percent right now, which is checking among qualified pitchers only Lance mccullers I think. About the twins defense I mean we all expected that getting Josh Donaldson was going to help that didn't feel defense. Obviously, he's hurt right now but the team overall is still doing really well, defensively, he got a great Katrin Eddie Rosario yesterday the outfield twenty, five percent catch probability on that one, a five star catch it really feels like the defense is helping him a lot more. So than anything really changing with his pitches and I think this is the type of story that everybody is rooting for. But I will say his ear as one point four to the expected era based on the contact he's giving up is three point eight, which is still very good. But that's basically showing the effect of that deep pronounce right there. It's the same concept as if we talked about building independent pitching his back. And shows that the twins are definitely helping him out which is great and if the twins have improved defensively, that's huge and he's been huge for them with odor izzy being hurt with rich hill being hurt. So it's a really fun story. Right Sarah. Thanks for doing this. Great to talk with you again. Thanks on buster. Bleacher tweeds. All Ready Buster bleacher tweets, four months d good to have you back and it is a shrink family tradition. So I, kind of want to make it a little traditional baseball tonight podcast. What was the peak in the pit of your of your week off at Lake George? Boy, we had some great hikes I. Think the most enjoyable when there's this place in Lake George called divers rock. Okay. It's like twelve to fifteen feet depending on where the water level is twelve fifteen feet Leib. Off a rock into the water and normally we get there by boat. But we found out that you can actually hike there and we did that and it turned out to be a hike. Wasn't that arduous and so like moving forward like all my family members who who made that hike with us we're like yet we're doing this every year that was really cool and there's nothing better than jumping off Iraq like that going into the water did it five or six times? Nice. That sounds like a lot of fun. What's the? What's the pit? What's the pit someone someone make some bad eggs someone banging around a little too late for you at night what was it call your family members out of? This sort of tongue and cheek I would say at the end of every day man I was sore. And so I was digging the advil bottle but that's the way it should be when you're on vacation right? Be Sore every single day I can't really relate because when I go on vacation I, like to chill I don't. I don't like a lot of I mean I do like some activity but I don't know if I'm reaching for the advil bottle, it's not vacation for me that that is that is hard labors walking every walking every day six, six thirty in the morning and then going for a hike and then playing tennis and. Swimming and then going and doing something else, and then swimming again I I just I just love to get outside ocal bust buster looking trim I'm sure after all that let's get to the tweets. Corey Rupert writes in our the Yankees ruining Clint Frazier's career. He could have easily been starter for a lot of teams for the last two seasons. He will be over thirty before he even gets free agency are the Yankees Ruining Clint Frazier. Now I actually and it a great question because you're right with other teams, you might be playing but it feels like that in part because of his experience with the Yankees and being surrounded by veterans, he's really turned a corner in the last year in terms of his maturity even mentioned the other day. Then in the past, he may have pouted when he was sent to the. Minor. Leagues. As he was the beginning of the season, but he didn't write to scranton right to work. He's adjusted city swing air moons excited about how he's driving the ball the right center field. He's a beast and I actually think he's GonNa people keep writing about him being traded I don't think he's going to be traded. I. Think he's going to be there leftfielder next year. Next up Andrew Campbell at real camp drew writes in Hey buster which up our the season has impressed you the most the emergence of the young and exciting padres lineup. The performance of the Yankees be at lineup or the surprising production of the little known orioles lineup no doubt the orioles and that's not playing to the audience with you Taylor I mean we we knew last year the the Yankees beat line was good. We've known for the last few years. The padres are collecting talent. I cannot believe that the Baltimore Orioles would be in the playoffs as of this morning. That's incredible. My Guy Anthony Santander leading baseball in RBI's with twenty two of them. Are Fun to watch last one knitting. Daddy Greg at knitting data rates and Hey Buster I. Hope you're having a great vacation catch any fish with the trade deadline approaching what strategies are teams using to ensure they don't trade for a player who immediately ops out. Yeah I caught a few but I've done less fishing this year or in part because I struggled to get through the process online to get a license did catch one fish my nephew. John caught a ton of fish. She's a lot better fishing than I am and maybe after my experience with Pete Alonso's ashamed and realizing just not very good at. Your questions a great one, and it's actually there's so many variables when it comes to trade deadline this year will a player opt out if you make a deal for an important player and then you give prospects form what happens if the season shutdown and you just going to give value you know what's the new financial landscapes are very interested in a guy like jd Martinez is his contract going to be really outside by the time we get to the beginning next season. It's why I think and we're only two weeks away from the trade deadline I. Don't think they're going to be a lot of significant deals I think they're going to be a lot a very small. deals or players with comparable service time are dealt, but it's just so difficult I. Think this year to assess value in players in two willing to give up. That does it for bleacher tweets, subscribed rate and review to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome back buster. Happy to have you although Tim Tim and Dave they did a great job in your absence. Well, I appreciate it appreciate you. Appreciate them that's it. For today I'm actually going back back up to the lake during the week but we're GONNA have podcast from there and you're gonNa hear the sound of the water during for through the rest of the week my thanks today to Tim and to Sarah, and detailer have a great day everybody stay safe and remember Payton inequality based on skin color something we should fight against every single day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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Pit Stop in Kansas City

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Pit Stop in Kansas City

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST is. The Baseball Tonight For Friday September Eighteenth Two, thousand twenty producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut is Taylor Schwenk Buster only working from my home studio in New York I'll start out by saying it again. Thank you to the listeners for the tremendous support. This year is you talked about on the podcast yesterday our listener ship is up thirty percent year over year. Very exciting numbers especially in a year that has been so strange and it was no baseball for so long to get that kind of support is is so amazing. Some notes as we start today, the padres Mariner series for the weekend has been moved from Seattle to San Diego because of the air quality issues that we're seeing in Seattle, the dodgers reliever. Kayla Ferguson is going to have Tommy John Surgery. His season is likely over He the other day, Dave Roberts told reporters that the I had come back not very good saint. Louis Cardinals right handed to co two Hudson had to leave his start yesterday due to elbow tightness this course at a time when the cardinals are dealing with all these doubleheaders it. Really does feel like all the extra games they had to play in the aftermath of their shutdown have started to catch up with the team. The Indians had lost eight straight games going into Thursday but Shane Bieber stopper took the mound for them yesterday and he was terrific seventy two thirds inning three runs allowed ten strikeouts and he got help from Jose Ramirez. Here's the three to swung, and there's a high fly ball deep right field way back haul run Jose Ramirez. `nother two homer game for Ramirez as he takes my steep for the second time tonight at Wti am eleven hundred Indians win that game tended three bryce Harper had a big night against the mets and it was punctuated by this home run. The air to right field. Wa Forget about that. That is. Off. The facing of the upper. Four hundred forty five feet. His second home run of the game? The phillies lead five three. Yeah with the end of the day, the phillies would still be in as the eighth seed in the National League but Joe Girardi their manager told reporters yesterday jt Real Mutya will not be available through the weekend in all likelihood. So that's a concern for the phillies as they move through this completely wide open wildcard race. In the national, league, the Yankees have been on a roll and man therefore fourth-inning yesterday was a Walker Driven deep to right. Center, Field Very. Into the Yankee Fan. To run shot Gordon her and the Yankees now lead by the two. Major. Fights off fly deep. Right going back. God. Get out off home run for la you and it six to Yankees as they go back to back. Look for wraps one deep into. Right. Center Field Very. Took back to back twentieth home run for point and the Yankees are pouring it on as they lead seventy-two. High Fly ball right field there it goes they've done it again they said a big league record seventeen runs at three games and the Yankees lead ache to. Fly Ball deep left center. There it. Burke Labor. Torres. The bronx bombers flexing nine two. So, five home runs for the Yankees in that fourth-inning, they had nineteen home runs in a three game series. That's the most in a single series of any length in major league baseball history, and they crushed the record which had been held by the nine hundred and sixty three twit seventeen homers in a four-game series against the Washington senators. The Yankees Nineteen home runs the most for any three game span in Major League Baseball history the Tampa. Bay. Rays moving closer to clinching a playoff spot face the Baltimore Orioles looking to sweep doubleheader and it happened. Now the one to pitch on its way swinging a ground ball right side to do Brasil has it grows i. Raise. Wed. raise win for the second consecutive season the Tampa Bay rays are going to the postseason for the sixth time in team history as a high rise ahead shakes the Tampa Bay rays around in the postseason once again. That from the raise radio network and via MLB DOT com, the white sox and the twins, the score was tied to all in the sixth inning and a bizarre play happened. This. Deep down the left field line haul broad. Donaldson with a solo home run and the twins hit three against Lopez this afternoon and what a move by manager Rocco Ball Deli come out diffuse that situation that Donald said focus back in on what he's trying to do. And then the spark that he needed. Donaldson didn't Miss It. He tossed him. They just tossed Donaldson for kicking dirt on home plate as he crossed home plate. So now here comes Rocco Bald Elliot he's likely to get tossed to. Donaldson kick dirt on home. Plate as it crossed and Dan Bongino just kicked him out of the game. You see something you may never have seen before I have never seen a guy get thought out after hitting the home run. But. Obviously fired up. You. Don't like to see him getting objected but. To, have motion just gets the best deal. Yep, that's what happened. Just Donaldson didn't like a previous strike called made by whole played prior Dan Bongino and is he crossed on played he kicked dirt on on home. Plate. Beleno injected him at that point the twins held a three to two lead, but the white sox would come back. And he rips wound down the left field. So that's a fair ball under the Corner Sanchez turns third. He's on his way to the plate Bre-. You gets the stop sign at third another run US home, the white sox untidy. It's now four three here on the seven. The white sox with the lead that from wgn and that move the white sox to within just a handful of outs to clinching a playoff appearance. Swings and hits a high fly ball handle left Centerfield Lewis Robert he's there. He's got it. It's playoff time for the Chicago White. SOx. have. Qualified for the playoffs for the first time since two thousand eight. And they get a four three win here against the Minnesota. Twins. And take three out of four. FROM MINNESOTA WE'RE GONNA be talking about the White Sox is the number one seed in the American league with Jesse Rogers and we'RE GONNA be talking about that. Josh Donaldson injection is well as a conversation with Todd Radim the chief executive of our weekly quiz before it gets all that check out the latest episode of the low, Post Zach Lowe discusses the end of the clippers season in previews the western conference finals with TNT Stan Van Gundy who by the way is a huge baseball Fan Taylor I. Don't know if you knew that I was down in spring training one year and Stan saw me came over and it was like our conversation was him asking me baseball questions? Him NBA. Getting the behind the scenes talk may I think that sounds like an amazing podcast I love Stan Van Gundy that that could be good buster. You know what we ought to have mine. Let's do some observations from that. That actually would be fun. You can listen to the low post wherever you get your podcast. Jesse Rogers. Coverage Baseball ESPN A Jesse new. You're chomping at the bit on some particular thought because you sent me an email yesterday saying you had a thought about playoff strategy. Yes I get buster. So hear me out on this one I. IT involves starting pitching and who your top three starters are going to be. Let me use the White Sox as my example team that just got into the postseason they have to solid starters, Lucas, G, Lido, and Dallas, of course, the guy with the most experienced team in terms of October now. After that they've young guy staying dunning and doing he's good young starters. So this is my idea in the best of three. If you win game one with Lucas, G Alito. Would you consider starting to be less experienced pitcher in game two and saving Kaikal for a win or go home situation and game three if you win game to always sudden Dallas Tikal Opening the next round, you lose game to the guy that has pitched in the World Series Picking Elimination game any team with a young inexperienced third starter I. Think should consider that. What do you think? You know that's interesting and as you said that I thought, you know who we have on the podcast next week is Tim Corbin who's the head coach at? Vanderbilt because of course, in the championship round at the College World Series. That's the sort of quandary that they deal with all the time like how do you line up your best pitchers and you know it'd be interesting to get some insight with you. But I I like that idea you know where you roll the dice and hope that you can get it. You. Know I just pulling a team out of the mix. For example, you know the Yankees will start. Garrett Cole Let's say they win Garrett Game One with Gary Cole then game to go bullpen game and try to wrap it up there, and then maybe you've got to knock in the bag, and if you win game two with the bullpen game than potentially you could. Start to knock in game one and you're better setup that series but there's a lot of stuff I think that's going to happen with the starting pitching because of the fact you know in that first the first round is going to be three straight days but then later in the world series are GonNa have seven straight days. I. Really liked that part of this postseason. Yeah, that's really going to be different for executives and managers. When they set up, they've been so used to the off days. This is going to be really different is why around deadline I think I was on with you. I was harping on starting pitching the cubs had enough and I kept asking Jed Hoyer, did you go out look for more? That's why the clemens trade was. So huge my point being you absolutely need for more than ever in their pass to get away three. You've an extra around and you have less off days you need for starters And so back back to right yeah look. We always talk about the ninth is different right that's why you have to have a special guy in the mall and there's a closer elimination games are different to you need a special guy on the mound to take the ball on those and I. Just if you're one nothing, you have some some some ways to to work this. Now you're down one nothing you have to start Dowse Geico game to you have to start knocking game to obviously, but it's that up one nothing scenario I think team should should consider fuster. He up and I think they will. It'll be interesting to see how the different managers handle that how the the analytics department. Of Front offices handle that you mentioned that you feel like starts teams need to have four starting pitchers they're going to need five. Like. This is the first post-season because they're not going to be a lot of teams especially with these analytically driven front opposites who are GonNa be like, yeah, you know what? Let's start our number one on three days rest there might be some guys like a Garrett. Cole. You could see that you know Trevor Bauer B. All in on that like right away with the reds he'd be like I can I can throw all day but then there'd be other teams that wouldn't have that which is it's interesting that some of the teams that have the deeper rotations, the Minnesota twins come to mind actually at the deeper they go. They may have more of an advantage because they have more options. No doubt about it you're so right I mean that second round best to Fi- five straight days. Are you going to start your number one starter on short rest or go with your number five what a tough decision to make I take the of tea? My covered alice mills is their fifth starter. He just threw a no hitter. Okay. Now I don't know what he's GonNa look like two weeks from now but is he the guy in a game five elimination or is that you darvish one of the all world pitchers going right now on three days rest it is just Decisions, are GonNa be crazy when it comes to the Elimination Games. Right yesterday the biggest moment I think in baseball was when Josh Donaldson hit a home run for the twins to give them a lead in the game over the White Sox After he had disputed a couple of calls made by Home Plate Empire Dan. Baleno and his Josh Donaldson Cross on plate he kicks hurt on a beleno objects. Him Donaldson very angry about the previous strike calls and I gotTa tell you I love Josh Donaldson I mean. This is someone who has so much passion. For what he does, he really is one of the pioneers of the the launch angle generation but watching that play out yesterday I was like Dude you can't let yourself get thrown out of that game in that spot and I love Justin Moore No doing the the serving his analyst on the twins broadcast basically saying I've never seen that before guy hits a home run and he gets objected and on top of that, it's a big game for the twins as they angled for playoff seeding. Yeah I was watching it live as well as having my Second Cup of coffee in the afternoon I literally spit it up I could not believe he did and then, and then he came back you know when a couple of towards the dugout came back and did it again. So that that was a and look they got down after that. That was I think the go ahead run they were up, they got down his spot in the order came up in the eighth or ninth inning, and that was that could have been a difference maker they lost by run that was a huge little turn their when he. Did that. So a terribly selfish move from a guy that isn't known for doing that but obviously, he was frustrated it was a terrible strike call. There's no doubt about it but look you hit a home run should be water under the bridge at that point Big Mistake is like I said one run loss and is he came up in that later in the game responded. So I haven't seen many of those at. All right I mean it happens once in a blue moon but I loved it I gotTa Say I. Loved It. It was an entertaining moment to see a player kicked dirt on the On home plate after hitting a home run, here's my question. Does he he doesn't get one more day out of that right for showing up the umpire that that but that? Now I don't think. So I think that'll. I, think if there's any ramifications it, it might be in a nice way for me inside of his clubhouse like I would love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday. In the late innings and then after the game someone is respectful as Rocco daily a great team like Nelson Cruz Santa Josh, do we need you like we need you on the field and you're right the the call made by Dan Marino that he was most upset about was definitely outside the strike zone the other part of that that surprised me a little bit. He's like I got know Dan Bongino the empire who was involved in that he's like a nice guy. He's not a confrontational guy. He's not one of the Empire's who are in players faces all the time and so josh, really did kind of pick a fight with them. Yeah. If that's true and I don't know Dan then that that's that's Josh know that as well. Right. If you know that he's a nice that that that's really sticking it to a Nice Scott. You know what I mean. That's showing up a guy that I I it sounds like most people kinda like and and and whatnot. So very surprising to see that it may have cost his team McCain. Now we have no idea he could strike out that last at Bat, but it could have cost team game. because. The guys got home on power. Okay. The White Sox with that win yesterday they qualify for the play offs and here's a comparison that I wanna make that you are better qualified than anybody to to assess I feel like the two thousand and twenty White Sox who were at this point might be the number one seed in the American league are a lot like the two, thousand, fifteen cubs, a team you covered where they have arrived on the scene maybe a year sooner than what people thought. Yeah. That's a that's a good observation. I think a lot of people in Chicago feel the same way. I think there's some comparisons even to like you know they signed Dallas Kyko just like the Cup Sign Jon Lester as sort of a final peace number. Two to elevate your team there are a little too young maybe to go all the way, but you never know the cubs got to the. That that first year because sometimes you know you're dumb and naive about these things right what what's really impressive about the white sox buster is how matured within the sixty games they had a couple rough spots early when the cardinals came out of there Kobe. Situation they swept us the white sox and a double header, and it seemed like the White Sox weren't ready on all of a sudden when there were games like that possible letdown games they started to overcome. They weren't very good against right handed pitching. They were below five hundred against plus five hundred teams and the reverse those trends they've come up big and learned how to hit right handed pitching a little bit better and it's not all about home runs for them which was earlier. So there are some comparisons. It mostly comes just kind of maturing and and I can remember a series two, thousand, fifteen, the cubs against the giants in August that really elevate the member of the giants. The giants in the middle of their great run the White Sox have had a series like or to like that they just got through a huge one against the twins just grinding out these wins for series win. They also had a couple of against the Indians that they've played. So I do see similarities but but in this in this postseason, anything is possible and I mean if. Their offense shows up and we know it doesn't always Kober Sky's the limit for him I. I'm sure for enforced series coming up in the playoffs at some point you're going to have to rely on pitching and there is a lot of inexperience outside of Dallas in October and of course, game one if the standings whole is they are right now game on, they'd be facing Shane Bieber. Who's going to win the CY young in the American League in who knows what's going to happen at that point? The white sox could have this tremendous season of progress and run right into the pitcher. You do not WANNA facing the American League playoffs this Sunday we've got you darvish pitching against the Minnesota twins You know as part of my preparation I went back and read your story on Darvish and how he's made Progress I. I've talked to some other people and what I've really sort of gathered was that it was almost like coming off the two thousand seventeen world series where he was a starting pitcher and game seven you know he mentioned To two staffers and the dodgers before that game. Hey, are you sure you wanNA start me in? So many words he said that just before the start of the game you know they had Clayton Kershaw, they could theoretically gone to that day they wind up losing that game and what I've gotten back from a lot of people's they really feel like that. In some respects, he was kind of knocked back on his heels from the two thousand seventeen world series experience even after getting that big contract from the cubs and it took him a little while to get comfortable and and for lack of a better way to describe it recover from that experience. What's your take? Yeah I think that's part of it. I think there's two other things involved one in terms of his confidence when the Astros got caught cheating that Kinda helped him like a lot of people were on his side from that moment on right every it was everybody against the Astros Darvish Kinda got let up there. Okay. Maybe there was more at play than meet tipping my pitches. They were stealing the sign that was one thing that changed and also he got completely healthy finally in his mind and when you are healthy and have that kind of ability man, you can let it fly I think the most. Surprising thing or interesting thing for me covering Darvish these last few years you know sort of the second portion of his career buster is how sort of I don't insecure. He was even in Texas when he came over from Japan when he got even when he got his feet under start pitching won't Texas he's he said often up here with the cubs that this is the best ever felt or pitched like and he has said that early on in his cups career once you got past the injuries like Texas wasn't just he wasn't completely himself down there certainly wasn't himself in La now it can finally be himself and documenting the peace know he could pitch backwards now which in two thousand twelve, we wasn't really the norm he can work slow and he wasn't a lot really loud to. Do that back then. So there's just a lot of things baked into this thing with with him elevating his game having said that by the way he said to starts that have trended a little bit different. Now, maybe he couldn't keep up the pace that he was on last star he came out and said, he was terrible. He was got off all yet nothing having said that he lasted seven innings and that's the other big difference within buster. His floor for any outing is now much higher than it used to be either six or seven inning guy even on his worst days, and that is not something we saw early cups career. So the last time, we had the cubs, Sunday, baseball. Alex Rodriguez conversation about hobby or buys, and it just mentioned to me. So look you know there's there's no question. The no fans in the stands is a completely different experience, not only for for baseball, but for the players and not having the juice of having the the instant feedback from fans when you make a great play in one of the guys that I wonder if we talked about this that I felt like was potentially most affected was heavier bias like he absolutely someone who's built for a stage. Alex agreed with me. It is interesting in the last week. It feels like he's starting to turn the corner a little bit. What's your what you see in an? Yeah Ah. Let me say this. I. Don't a hundred percent agree with that. Obviously guys like that. Feed off the crowd for sure there's some elements to that but I think. The thing that he complained about the other day is more important the lack of ability to watch the at bats. In game to go back to the video replay room and watch and think about this with him in particular. Here's a guy that is missing swinging and missing it those outside sliders often. Don't you think it probably could help guy especially that that does that to go back and Hey oh my God I missed that by foot a misstep by two inches I gotta I gotta get back within myself. You're like I think the lack of in game video he replay affects some guys more than others and I think he's near the top of the. List the crowd certainly must affect is some guys more than others and maybe he's at the top a-list there as well but it will say early in this thing, he actually not applauded it but he's like well, we can communicate better on defense without crowded not so bad. So I, understand the idea of high energy guys missing the energy of a crowd that just. That makes sense but I do think there's some other things in play having said that look if on Sunday you seem going to right field whether inside outing pitch or just taking that outside pitching driving you to right that's the sign that is the sign I don't care if it's a ground ball through the whole sort of shift or inside outing doubles down the line that's what he needs to do obviously taking that out outside pitched to right or laying off of it is what makes him you know that's the Siamese coming out of he's doing that a little bit more. Starts and stops within buster. John Lester after his start the other day spoke pretty openly with you guys about feeling some emotion. Knowing that it might wind up being his last started Wrigley Field and never envisioning of course that would happen without fans in the stands. He the cubs signed him as they were beginning to turn the corner in the winter of two, thousand, fourteen, two, thousand, fifteen to a six year one, hundred and fifty five, million dollar deal. That's one of those the the small handful of deals that absolutely paid off for the team. In a big way where you can go back and say that that certainly was worth what a the investment was. Initially, we could say that about Max Scherzer and the nationals that that's the case how important you think. John in a he lived up his end of that bargain. Immensely immensely important He really has found a home here in Chicago and man that guy's got a lot of pride right what he has done just this season to turn things around a little bit because he had a stretch of four five games where who's kind of bad. I mean he really went to work and found some mechanical changes that needed to happen and he fixed it between starts from September six December eleven you fixed what was bothering him. Rest free agent signing the city of seen on either side of town Chicago cubs or white sox. One of the best in any sport in this town at least to live up to two six years to be the leader to help you win a world series ending that drought to leave money on the table, the giants were offering more money I mean he wants to come back and win number two hundred and it cuts uniform. We don't hear about. Win totals very often do we buster? This is a guy that wants to win two hundred. He's at one, ninety two he wants to do in a cubs uniform and then he hopes to get like a C- Sobat Pierre Kinda the end of his Yankees career. Let's give a one year deal and he hopes that happens but I'm not sure the finances of baseball and allow it to happen. He's a ten million dollar buyout. So salary has to start at ten. Million returns. So all of that is in play, but he lived up to everything if not more and I can't stress enough how much he's found a home near nothing against the process and red sox they drafted him has an affinity there. But this is you know like I feel like if he goes to the hall of fame, you might wear a cup yet he might WanNa, wear upset or whatever. The case may be this really home for him right now. In the last one before we you go, we got about a minute left I've been talking this week about how it feels like the playoff seedings generally speaking the American league really don't matter because you know whether the one seat of the eighth seed you get the best out of you got the best out of five. There's no real homefield advantage because they're not fans in the stands I'd say this I feel like the seating that currently stands which has the Yankees, the Yankees at five and the Minnesota twins at four that matters. Is that would mean those teams who play each other and the Yankees time after time after time the last twenty years a beating the twins I gotta believe the twins one place somebody else. I guess. So I mean you know you'll talk the twins players and say, well I wasn't here for most of those. But I I don't disagree with that thought I. think There'd be a lot runs scored in that game. In that series, I mean a lot a lot of home runs in that series. But you're right. That's that might be the one up I can think of that that you know they want to avoid just because the history of it all but I am so looking forward to next month I don't think we know what's going to happen I agree with everyone the dodgers look that world-beater spy foster festive three best of five I mean, no I two rows are going to be wild with no off days who knows what's going to happen injuries within series all sorts of crazy things. But certainly, the dodgers look at look like the cream of the crop in both leagues but there are contenders and certainly there will be some upsets. Jesse great to talk to you. Thanks for doing this. Talk to you soon, enjoy Sunday night. See A. Dodd Radim is the chief executive of our weekly, a graphic artists whose work can be on ballfields all across the world all around America, or you can go to his website, Todd Radim, dot com, and of course, he's the author of the book winning ugly which now todd is coming out of paperback Yester- have ugly ugly uniforms and just kind of a general overall history of the baseball uniform coming out in paperback September twenty-ninth wherever books are sold. Yeah. And I saw the couple people were tweeting at you the other day you had signed copies. And I know you well enough to know that that's something you would facilitate easily for anyone who asked. All right before we get to this week's quiz our ballpark study. This week is around the Ballpark in Kansas City Kauffman Stadium and I gotTa, tell you I have a very specific memory. This ballpark you know as my awareness in baseball was was formulating in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three, I remember listening to the All Star game that year on radio and it was coming from Kansas City and They, made such a big deal about what a beautiful ballpark that was in everyone just raved about the waterfalls and You know how wonderful the place looked at night. Tell me about that. Ballpark. Bolster. You hit it right out of the chute here. It is a really different kind of ballpark. It's got that very sleek modernist design aesthetic and I think one of the things that's really noteworthy nineteen seventy-three. This is an era of concrete cookie cutters. The vet and Philadelphia had recently opened Cincinnati Pittsburgh we lump them all together, but the case was built specifically. For Baseball, and that's one of the things that makes it special is a suburban ballpark in a certain sense. It's outside of the city You know where the Oakland Coliseum for instance was eventually closed in same with Angel Stadium in Anaheim Kevin Stadium, you still can look out there and you know, yeah, you see the highway and you see that. Darren's hospital across the highway, but it has a strange defined sense of place. It's not a city Ballpark, but embraces that it's an outlier. So in a lot of ways, it's more like dodger stadium than any of its contemporaries right and it was built well and it's outlasted all. Couple of things here in the Ballpark went through very extensive renovation about a dozen years ago and you know. I think they did a pretty good job diminish the look of the place to some extent particularly the exterior with really clad in glass. It's a little bit of a different thing but the signature fountains are still there and those giant swooping sharp lines that form the upper deck. Those are the signature elements for KALPA stadium the angular light towers right and left and right fields really is a different looking kind of place and of course, you can't think about the K. without these things the the water and Fountain Display Kansas. City is all about fountains that giant logo scoreboard, which was up gradation HD dozen years ago I mean you know talk to me your buster That's twelve stories. I. Come on I? mean. This is. And I love the fact that they maintain the buck O'Neil legacy seat they have special person sit in Buck's seat to honor his. Him and his legacy and they have a really good hall of fame. They're so calvin. Stadium the summit up scores, High Gimme the fountains Gimme the gigantic logo give me the book seat those modernist lines it really feels like a different place and the last thing I would say buster is along the lines of what we talked about with regard to Angel Stadium. It faces somewhat of a murky future. The lease expires in twenty thirty one. There has recently been a change in ownership when the club which has not happened too often across history and there are rumblings of a move downtown. Wow That would be interesting boy I hadn't I haven't made any calls on that I. I'm going to have to after you say that I'm curious about what the future would be that Roy I I just love that place so much you mentioned the Buck O'Neil seats when I was covering the orioles and then it covered the Yankees when those teams would go in there, buck would be there every day he'd be talking to people behind home plate sometimes through the through the screen from from their first row of seats and Bucco Neil to me was like Vince, gully like he was such a big personality that I was afraid of him and I never. I think I said Hi a couple times but I was like embarrassed to like take up as time. 'cause I just. Wanted to talk with them. And I. Felt Like I. Don't know you felt is a red sox fan but I was so happy when they went to grass in that ballpark because for years that was one of those astroturf surfaces and those old royals teams actually had an advantage because they were really fast. They were very good defensively in guys like Willie Wilson Amos Otis in the outfield Frank White bought. It seemed like such a miserable place to play for players because it was so hot and when they put grass on there, it just made it feel a lot home here. Yeah I. Don't think you're wrong I. Think you know to me watching games from afar on TV It was part of that sense of place to me that carpet and boy those royal teams in the seventies late seventies, early eighties, world champions eighty powered Fred Yeah I mean how can you say without George Brett absolutely a newest as part of the whole thing. I know we're prosper time, but you got time for a quick Buck O'Neil story. That's here it. All right I knew buck. O'Neil you know I v our friend Bob Kendrick I did work with the new release Baseball Museum back in the nineties and I would see Bob Kendrick and Mr Book and Mister Motley out there all star games all this kind of stuff. So in two thousand, one in the aftermath of nine eleven I had. My stepfather passed away in New York at. Nine eleven but he happened to be there for surgery at the time and I have to take my mother back out to their home in new. Mexico, and waited for you know waited to get out of the New York area flights, of course, didn't happen for several days but I got her back out to New Mexico and I took his car back to New York. So I drove by myself from New Mexico back to New York to four days, and this is you know September eighteenth. Two thousand one seeing army trucks on route thirty five just so weird worlds right and in breaking the trip up a little bit a made a pitstop in Kansas City and spent an afternoon with with Bob Kendrick in book. O.`Neil. At the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum and They. They had apparently run a contest and blockbuster pure familiar and or listened to familiar with what that is like their these. Statues of Negro League rights warming a field. So this little kid five, six years old comes with his parents. They had won this contest and see Buck O'Neil out of the corner of my eye talking to Bob wanting the basis kind of pretend running the bases with this little five year old kid and I have to say buster it. Revived my faith in humanity in the the the the week after nine eleven and it just stays with me. I, think about him all the time. Oh, boy. Yeah. That's a great story and it's so so much of you know Bucko Neil anyone who's who saw Ken Burns Documentary Baseball buccaneers played such a big role that and if you watch him in that that that was him and he had such a big heart. Wonderful Person Thanks for telling that story. All right. Let's get to this week's quiz. Here, we go Royal Stadium Now Kauffman Stadium Are you called it they hosted the All Star game in the stadiums first season nineteen seventy-three here's this week's question. This ballpark hosted the All Star game just two weeks after it first opened. Was it a SAFECO field in. SEATTLE. The Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati. See Toronto's Skydome for de Marlins Park Miami two weeks after the stadium opened hosted the All star. Game SAFECO field in Seattle Riverfront and CINCY Toronto's Skydome or Marlins, Park what is? Wow. I Ha-. Golly I. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead Taylor I have no idea. I'm GONNA give to. Skydome see. And that's what I'm GONNA go to. You're both wrong because it was riverfront stadium. In Cincinnati, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy. Imagine opening a ballpark and then two weeks later hosting the All Star game. See, that again. Now I knew it wasn't Safeco I. You know thought about Riverfront because knew played the All Star game there that of course was where Ray Fosse. Got Run over by Pete Rose Yes am I right Yup and that would have been it, and I completely blew it another opportunity typical for two thousand and twenty. Love what roles thanks, Todd. Thanks, Taylor. Please leave me alone. Thanks guys. Bleacher tweets. Already Ready Buster bleacher tweets for Friday. Coming at Ya. I one up we got Josh Neufeld at Josh Neufeld he writes in just curious this season we've seen some players who wear face coverings on the field and even while batting, but you know of any pitchers who have worn a face covering while on the mound I've not seen anywhere. What about you buster know and I've been in ballparks in what's guys through a bullpens I don't see it there either and. Look. This is apples and oranges, but I I went out yesterday to fairly crowded park, and so he's wearing a mask while I was running and that was hard like it was hard because you know you sweat and then your mask gets a little damp and then breathing becomes more difficult and I was thinking about that in the context that question Josh 'cause I'm thinking if you're a pitcher and you got sweat born down. You know you're having a hard time breathing I'm guessing that It's probably not something that we're gonNA. See before that because nobody is expanding more energy on a baseball field in any given time the pitcher. Next one got Jesse pruitt at Jesse underscore pruitt in is Freddie Freeman. At a disadvantage in the MVP race because of his position, he's leading the league in offensive war but gets no value defensively even though he's one of the best at first base that is a great observation Jesse and I don't have the numbers in front of me but I wrote last winter when I was doing a top ten ranking of first baseman in Freddy, Freeman wasn't. Number One that in recent years like in the last decade last fifteen, twenty years you've seen first baseman fare worse and worse in the MVP voting in part because teams don't really just keep one guy a lot of teams won't keep one guy is their first baseman they'll go with tunes they'll go with matchups they'll move guys around, and so you're not seeing as many first baseman as say, forty fifty years ago who were in the MVP. Right now he's got a legit shot As. We talked about yesterday with Peres feels like that Fernandez Junior, it was his award to win but his struggles in this month that have brought him back to the pack absolutely last one for today. Don Vine writes in after this law season, what will the nationals have to do in the off season to get back in the top tier of NFL teams? They gotta get another hitter. They got to get somebody to complement want. So somebody who's going to help protect wants soda in the lineup boy what a difference it makes to not have anthony ran down which we shouldn't be surprised about because ran down is probably the best secure hitter in baseball but manner they need another thumper cause want Soto. He's so good that moving forward he's is not going to get pitched to he's going to get to Barry Bonds treatment unless they wind up putting someone at least near him, that'll help give him more pitches to hit I. Wonder if the nationals have any buyer's remorse with the big Stephen Strasburg contract and not giving that money to anthony reknown. Yeah. My sense is after talking with people that ran down was kinda out the door on the other hand Stephen is made it clear that he really likes to play in Washington. So in remember, they were both represented by the same agent Scott Boris. Tricky situation there. All right everyone that doesn't for bleacher tweet. Thanks for writing in. Keep them coming over the weekend Hashtag bleacher tweets on twitter. Please subscribe to rate and review this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts tell friend as always. Thank you very much. That's it for today. That's it for this week. My thanks to Jesse Todd detailer have a great day everybody I have a great weekend stay safe and remember hate inequality based on skin color. Something we have to fight against every single day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. 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The One With Kemet Alston and BLM

Girl At The Game

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The One With Kemet Alston and BLM

"Off, you know, you don't know Mama song. Welcome to girl at the game the podcast by women for everyone in partnership with C L & S media where your hosts Gabrielle founder of girl at the game and a love Nelson. Hey guys, we took the normal show for you guys today tons of NBA news. They have a format for a return. The WNBA is in talks of doing the same thing, but it doesn't feel right to talk about how Major League Baseball is ruining itself. There are so many more important things that we have to talk about and we have an incredible interview later in the show as well. But this episode is about racism peaceful protests problems that have been going on in this country since before this country was even founded it is uncomfortable stuff and it's difficult stuff and as two white women, we know that it's not really our place to talk about a lot of this stuff which is why we have a guest whose dog. Talk to us about it. But we also felt like it was important to talk about the ways that were educating ourselves and some things that we've learned over the last week. It's been really thought opening learning the things that we've learned this week and it's been really hard to watch a lot of the things that are happening in this country, but this country can't stay the way that it's been weaned off and every person in this country needs to feel safe and accepted and loved we can't if we talked about wanting Sports to be a safe place for everybody or Hypocrites. If we don't talk about the world's leading to be a safe space for everybody, right and things have been said about the murder of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis or up in me of in Minneapolis Police Officer things have been said much more eloquently than the words we could even construct. I would like us to talk about some of the things that we've learned over the last week because I've log So much. I'm not going to make this about being Jewish. This isn't about anti-Semitism or Judaism. But somebody that I really admire wrote a nice thing on Instagram just talking as a Jewish person about all of this and said I'm writing this only a short distance from the reichstag building where Hitler first spoke of his plan for the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe in the following years the world watched a six million Jews were murdered in a barbaric effort to restore racial Purity across the continent in the last few days of reading and reflection. I learned how Hitler look to the Jim Crow laws in the United States and other legal codes based on white supremacy as inspiration for the first anti-jewish laws implemented in Germany to designate my people as subhuman. I am not trying to plug the Jewish plate into the current narrative for black lives. This isn't our struggle with one we must fight in because we too were once desperate for active allies and still depend on them today that really just stuck with me because it's true and at the end of the day what time? Keep coming back to is that all human beings underneath the color of our skin eyes hair the way we look we all have blood and bones and hearts and brains and that's what we all need to remember. Yeah. It's really sad to see for whatever reason that people have turned this into a political issue when it's a human rights issue. It's not right or left. It's just a should be outraged at the loss of life at the hands of our government and specifically right now, we're talking about black lives innocent black lives moved and that shouldn't be something that divides you but like I said, there are people who have said things so much more eloquently about these social justice issues. I grew up in a pretty small suburb of Springfield Mass. So very high African American population and my hometown in high school offered a pretty different experience than the city it bordered, you know dead. Like Christian Wilkins of the Miami Dolphins via Clemson is from Springfield and throughout the course of this entire week. I thought back about Christian because when he was young and in school, he lived with his grandfather for a while in Framingham, Massachusetts and the Framingham SWAT team just bombarded his grandfather's house one day and bought a stake in the killed him right there and on his own property in his own home my God, and that's something Christian Wilkins has had to live with and in spite of all things grew up to be just this incredible young man, but he spoke out the other day and it's well worth your time to seek it out on Instagram because I don't know of an athlete that it takes as close to home. There's men like that in the NFL and that's also why like for Drew Brees then to come out the other day and take it back to the 2016 protests and talk about how he doesn't agree with that it off. Like Drew Brees read the room like I really respected you and it's just how tone-deaf could you be? Somebody said he donated five million dollars to covid-19 and I replied being charitable is incredible. It doesn't buy you a free pass to say whatever you want. Especially when what you're saying is factually untrue moment of super honesty here because I got called out for this on Twitter and I don't agree with digging up people's past tweets from years ago to attack them with it when they're clearly not that person anymore. But when Colin Kaepernick was kneeling at the time I was dating a guy who I didn't know happened to be a trump supporter. I knew that he had more conservative views than me, but I didn't know that he was going to vote for Trump and when he told me that I ended up breaking up with him cuz I was like, I can't date a guy who supports this presidential candidate and We've joked about this before but now it's more serious. Like I don't follow football really dead. Didn't follow it at all in 2016. Like I've never been a football fan. And so I had no idea what was going on because I was in like my own little world like most of us are when it's something we're not a fan of her Wheels. Like like I didn't watch football. So what I started seeing people talking about Colin Kaepernick kneeling like on social media and stuff in the news, I asked my boyfriend because I was like a dating he's a huge football fan. I would like to know what's going on. And so I got bad information as a lot of us do when we ask a person that we trust instead of just like looking it up for cells. He said that Colin Kaepernick was kneeling because he was disrespecting the flag of America and being naive and not really focusing on it. I believed him. So at the top I'm that's what I thought and then when I found out that I was wrong I was so ashamed and I became a huge supporter of what Colin kapernick was doing because you know what I have family members that have served this country in the military wage. My cousin Mark died in Iraq. He was the first Jewish servicemen to die in Iraq. You're not disrespecting them because they're fighting for all Americans. He was protesting police brutality and for somebody to say 4 plus years later that that's what Colin kapernick was doing when it's not like for Drew Brees to say I will never respect anybody who disrespects the flag or this country. It's like you're just respecting what this country should be about and what this country was supposed to be about by saying that so annoying to me like, it's Drew Brees. This is not some. All right, that doesn't get that Colin Kaepernick protesting by kneeling was never about the flag or the anthem like you said, it was about police brutality Colin Kaepernick home early said that and it's like someone tells the thing is million times. I'm doing this for this reason and you say to them know you're doing it for this reason you don't get to tell them why they're doing it home. So many people don't realize cap was just going to sit on the bench and like not do anything and just not stand for the flag at all, like dunno demonstration. Like the demonstration was just going to be him sitting on the bench. It was a Green Beret Nate Boyer who played for the Seattle Seahawks that had a conversation with Colin Kaepernick about the protests because Kaepernick suck out his advice for how to go about it and it was the Green Beret that recommended kneeling for the flag because it was a literal sign of respect to fall in service members home. So it's literally people took the exact opposite of what he was trying to do also named where is well? Yeah. That's why it's so disappointing for Drew Brees to not understand that you are a future home and quarterback and the way you lead the the diverse locker room that every NFL team has is by not even understanding what they're actually fighting for dead. You got four years to have these conversations with your teammates or even just to like listen to Colin Kaepernick saying over and over. This is why I'm doing it. How many times does he have to say why he was doing something if you're taking offense to it for something else that's inside you Drew Brees being incensed by what Colin kapernick was doing speaks to what's inside Drew Brees home and that that's his priority more than listening to what Colin kapernick was saying he was doing and the reason he was dying and that's the thing is yeah Drew Brees both of his birth father served in World War Two when he looks up at the flag or here's the national anthem before he goes out and takes the field. I'm sure he gets a very patriotic prideful feeling and I think what this week if anything, I mean it should have happened four years ago in cap was doing this, but I think people are finally starting to realize that not everyone has to have those feelings when you look up a flag and I think song Adrian Foster really articulated this best if you didn't hear his interview on pardon my take on Monday's episode seek it out. It really says everything that needs to be said listening to him will really give you some perspective. I think like one of the biggest things that we're supposed to be doing right now is listening and to that end. I want to just quickly touch on a few things that we learned this week because we made a list hopefully it helps some people who are also trying to learn right now and then we are going to play this interview for you guys. This interview is really special. It kind of came about in an interesting way because Celtics Superstar Jaylen Brown used social media in the best way possible. He used social media to organize a peaceful protest. He drove 15 hours from from Boston to ensure that he could leave a positive and log Peaceful discourse during this protest and that just speaks volumes to like how much he cares about these issues and his native Georgia and the Atlanta area these incredible photos of Jalen at the March. He shared them on his social media and they were kind of going viral. So I reached out to one of the photographers just bought on a whim being like, I I really your photos were incredible. I would love to chat with you about them. His name is, tolston and it turns out that he is the grandson of a famous Civil Rights leader Andrew Young close co-worker and friend of dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And he went on to become a congressman for Georgia the United States ambassador to the UN and a multiple term mayor of the city of Atlanta. I had no idea about that when I reached out to him. It just turned out to be an incredible coincidence dead. And you'll hear his interview a little bit later in the episode, but I think to go back to what we've learned a little bit one of the biggest things I think for me definitely. And for a lot of people is Thursday, we don't speak out because we're worried that we're going to say the wrong thing and because a lot of the times people do say the wrong thing even with good intentions. This has happened so many times you say the wrong thing when you have a good intention and the way that social media and cancel culture works you get absolutely raked over the coals for it and took it is a huge deterrent for people who want to help want to support want to be an ally but we don't know if we're going to say the right thing. We don't know the right thing to say and one of the things that I've heard so much this week, it's it's okay to be vulnerable and honest about a the fact that we don't always know the right thing to say and be that we're probably going to say the wrong thing at least once but that's part of this month. Process one of the educational materials that I was reading and I shared it in my Instagram story. They talked about shame the shame of realizing white privilege and racism in society and it said that page is paralyzing but that ends up being counterproductive and the quote was remember you were brought up in a racist world that thrives on a lack of compassion you are deserving of compassion because we're both deserving we need to treat ourselves with compassion so that we can move towards action basically talking about that when you let yourself get swallowed up in the shame of realizing like the foundation of like your life is a white person you end up not doing anything about it which prevents change like right now we like with every thing going on in the world right. Now A lot of people are just forgetting that we're living in a global pandemic were not supposed to be around other people. We're supposed to be social distancing and so my situation having immunocompromised family members. I can't go to a protest wage. And I felt guilty about that this week because in normal times like I was at Women's marches a few years ago. I would be at these protests but I can't be and instead of beating myself up for that long to remember that small actions and things we can do at home are just as necessary and important as big actions. So if you can't protest you can sign petitions you can donate money you can educate family members and have difficult conversations with people who don't agree with you and try to help them understand you can make calls and emails to elected officials in local and National offices and you can support Bush says owned by people of color. It's not a one-lane highway. There are so many ways that you can help make a difference. If you can't protest I've spent my week donating money signing petitions reading listening to podcasts ordering books because those are the things that I can do instead of focusing on the things that you can't do focus on the things that you can do and I do want to say also log Like I think it needs to go beyond posting something on social media and make everyone making a statement and it's I mean the Charities absolutely deserve the money, but it needs to be more than just throwing money at the problem. You know what I mean? Like a bunch of white people on Instagram like oh this is how much I donated like what are you doing in your actual everyday life? Because we always have something no matter what job we do what hobbies we have. There's things we can do in our daily routines to affect positive change and you no matter how big or small your platform is. Yeah, and I've kind of looked at myself and how I can do that and I think about the foundation of my job or at least what I aspire to do with the ideals of journalism, right and it's to tell stories that bring different people and perspectives together and to hold companies organizations and the government accountable. And perhaps most importantly to give people the information they need about our society in order to help them make an informed decision and I'm really fortunate to get to do that through the lens of sports package over the most diverse products the world has to offer right? So, like I said, I'm from right outside of Springfield and after graduation from college one of my first jobs was covering High School sports and getting to tell stories similar to Christian Wilkins sharing these stories of the people that have different perspectives than us is just it's so in life, you know, and it's like athletes and sports are just one of the best vehicles I think for talking about these issues and making people care about them. Absolutely and like I said, everybody has a different role to play. I think that another thing that's really important is remembering that people can change. I see this so much online people want to dig up old tweets. They want to cancel people if you see that somebody tweeted something stupid like five ten years ago, but they're clearly not that person anymore. You want people to change but you don't allow for the possibility that they have changed that they become a better person. It's not productive to be canceling people for who they were as opposed to a using your own time in your own life to make this world a better place and be allowing for the possibility that maybe somebody else wants to be a better person and is using their time now in the present to make this world better for the future somebody tweeted something like normal eyes changing your opinion when you learn new information. Anyway, the last thing that we want to talk about before we play this interview for you is today is Brianna Taylor's birthday. If you don't know who she was she was a black woman who was murdered by the police in her own home. It is such a messed up story. It's the kind of thing where it really makes you realize how twisted and messed up America's police system is like legal system is that this happened? Because Brianna Taylor was asleep in her own home and the police were attempting to complete a drug sting two months ago. They broke down the door to her apartment and shot her eight times. She was murdered and the thing that is so awful even more awful about this. First of all is that she was a BMT. She was on the front lines of covid-19. Team saving people's lives and not only that but the man involved in the drug ring that they were looking for had already been arrested earlier that day and was in police custody. So they murdered her for no reason in and absolutely nothing to do with her to begin with. It was yeah. It's like what happened to them and Wilkins grandfather and his home own home just years later and months ago with the African American man in his own home that was killed by a drunk white police officer that stumbled into the wrong house wage. Like it's just this is a pattern and we need to break it. Somebody made a beautiful website with all of the ways that you can help with Taylor's case which has officially been reopened as of yesterday. The link to help is in the episode description for today's episode. You can sign petitions you can send off There are a lot of things that you can do and we hope that you will do them with us. I celebrated my birthday yesterday and I couldn't stop thinking about the fact that this beautiful young woman who was trying to save people's lives was brutally murdered and wouldn't get to celebrate hers today. So this episode is dedicated to Brianna Taylor that might sound hollow off or not enough. I feel like basically nothing we ever say is going to be enough because there aren't any words that can make this better coming from us, but we want we just want to help we want to do everything we can and that's why this episode is the way that it is today. And with that we're going to play this interview for you with the wonderful come at Austin who really opened up to us about his experience and we were so honored to pass the microphone to him off. All right, we now welcome on combat Alston commit you were down in Atlanta in the last few days is and you happen to photograph the peaceful protest. That was led by Boston Celtics Jaylen Brown. We would love to talk to you about how you got involved with that. If you guys haven't seen the photographs that he took they were really powerful images of this protest. So for me, it was it was random a friend of mine reached out to me and said do you want to go to a protest today? You know, I said sure I've been wanting to go to a view and there was one before that actually that I had missed. I'm going to know how bout no human the detail she found out through Twitter So lately, you know, Twitter's been that place the place you go to to find the news to find the protest to find people who want to make money. Saying and so, you know, I saw it said, you know Jaylen Brown and he said, you know, I wanted to be a peaceful protest and for me that's that's what I want to be a part of. I understand they have not going on. But in my opinion there's different ways to go about it. And you know, if you can be applied to them as peaceful but still, you know, speak the truth speak your mind. I feel you know, that's where I'm all about. So, yeah, so I saw it and I decided to go and that's how I found out about it through Twitter. I found it out about it the same way as you however long in Boston. I'm interested to hear from your perspective because all I saw was limited Instagram lives and video. So your perspective on life kinds of things he was saying and the way in which he was leading this protest. Were you a Jaylen Brown fan? What did you think of him kind of prior to this? Cuz I know he's in Atlanta, Georgia. Area native, correct. Honestly, I didn't know he was from Atlanta. I kind of found that out, you know that day. I do follow, you know, I love for God what you know, I don't necessarily follow him and typically what when I saw that, you know, he was doing this I said, you know what that's powerful because we need our young people we need our Pikachu have to have that flat one to come out and speak and it's generation in the aren't there aren't people like we had you know on this device movies. They don't have these mountains between we don't have the I don't have the Bonaparte you don't we don't have these people until who are these people that have a platform that are willing to take on me because we all know that Jessica have a platform doesn't mean a thing, because we might not have the right thing. So for him the things that he was saying one of the biggest things I took away was well, I'm twenty-three. I'm just like you guys don't look at me. Indifferent I told $15 a year because I care not because of you know this person and I can you know, I'm a celebrity this time. I am twenty-three young like new guy, you know, I understand. What about the fighting for don't look at me any different and the biggest thing, you know, I want you to be a peaceful protest Speak Your Truth speak with on your mind off the right way and that's when you pressing the whole time and as you know walking, you know, and it's different, you know, like you hear, you know in any protests, but you know there weren't anybody's name what name Bonnie trying to connect with these people and I think I like the fact to that instead of starting to CNN. Like we're supposed to start off. You know, I'm okay Memorial and so that whole District the whole area that we were in marketing towards the capital, you know with black on the whole street black on stores their birth. Fine or whatever you call it, you know it's a black one area. So, you know, of course, we're not trying to we don't we don't want to mess our own space. But but outside of that like judging people who appreciated the fact that looked at these people none of us want, you know, anything wrong to going on. I thought that was great and I thought that was something that I was proud to be a part of. Yeah, that's really incredible stood out to me the most was like you said jailen took the initiative to drive 15 hours from Boston to Atlanta. I've never really been to Atlanta Beyond a few hours wage on a few layovers. But I mean what everyone knows about it is it it's a champion city of black culture and African American culture. So the fact that he would feel so compelled to drive down make sure that protests work done peacefully and try to at least have some part in making sure of that be a leader for that piece, right? I I totally agree and you suck. The fact that he let everybody know this is also my town. I'm from here and you know, I'm not just saying look in Atlanta for a hot place to be when you coming here because I can bring a few years now knowing the news and the signup know like well, I'm from here and I know for a fact that I care enough about what's going on and I want to do it in my own soil because you could have just he could have put together in age. Could I put together a protest know in Boston and you know that and done the same thing, you know make it a peaceful protest, you know doing in boxes like that know like I care so much for what's going on and I can check what I see in my city of Atlanta and I have to be here I see so I heard that I've never seen in Atlanta. You know, we see all these things that happen, you know in other cities which is it's it's awful terrible, you know, what's going on is it's hard to deal with but I'm twenty-nine. So in the last twenty nine minutes what I've seen in the last couple days in Atlanta, I've never seen it seen on T was dead. That is not home town and know that wow, this is really happened in my family my town where I live where I'm from. So I feel like you know that right there trucks coming in him and said it's holding powerful, but for me to feel like I'm doing something I have to take it back to my hometown have to take it back to where I was raised to where I became the mayonnaise. I don't let people know that my boyfriend even heard I'm with you and I'm going to come back in my city and show you how serious I am how much I care. That's really incredible before we started recording you were talking about how the media is portraying these peaceful protests and these protests in general because some of them have become not so peaceful. I'm curious what your experience at the protest was like compared to how the media has been portraying it because I think people aren't asking enough of the people who are actually their proteges. Sing what their experience was and they're just listening and looking at how it's being portrayed online and in the news and I think that's a big problem. Right? I agree for me. I find what you know, if you mean I mean we forget that a lot of these do start, you know, ask people protest we missed that part because the media in the news are so engaged on the edge of my turned down over this and so drawn into it because at the end of the day with new unfortunate, but it's about ratings, you know about keeping up, you know with the ratings and about how long we keep you know, our people engaged and how do we treat you know inspections going and you know drama unfortunately is what keeps me going so I can go back to the first day that we have that here, you know in Atlanta Friday. A lot of people don't realize that outside of seeing over at Centennial Park. There was a whole other protests that actually the city of Atlanta knew about You know, I don't very peaceful. It was something to the capital and it went right. I wish I would I would have been a part of it but it was beautiful, you know had a friend that went and did and when a great job on the way back, you know other people started coming other people started, you know going towards me and and so even when there's his powerful thing going on over ten ten year old wage people speaking people trying to figure out how do we make change wouldn't accept the new can't do anything but go over here because this is the Hot Topic this is this, you know, fortunately he went to sleep. So for me wrong with the news, you know, my camera to Showcase that looks there are people protested are people that do care that do want to see change unless you change the right way and it just goes back to the media to having, you know, having the time to speak to these people, you know, there's no busy on you know, just things near people who are in that fight, you know, oh the so-called, you know negativity, you know, I think that wage So much tell from me saying apart by Jalen did and being able to show how poor photos outside of police brutality without outside of you know, from time in the church has a Superior Funeral home because even have powerful moment that don't necessarily need a heavy artillery or need climbing or need people yelling or people under stairs yelling cuz going is okay. But what happened is Henry confrontation between if you want to please, you know, you don't necessarily need that to Showcase how strong and how powerful, you know protest our flag and their time and time of positivity and what people are doing, you know on the front line and what people are doing, you know, as people trying to make change you to protest So to go off what you just said after the protests Jaylen Brown was tweeting that three people had been wrongfully arrested and he was looking to get their information and presumably to help them out if they needed bail or anything, but he was kind of vague about where that all went down. So I'm wondering if you were able to see any of that or if that happened with the protests that was being led by Jalen. So I befriended I mean I was there the whole time and then I kind of tipped off for you know whole Car Fax thing, but I will say this as we were walking, you know, we did have a moment when we when we get stopped and you know, he was like almost like half half the people weren't wanted one area wage other half on you know, what back door and turns out be with you in with the police at that time from what I know one person almost got arrested, but you know as I was walking dead. You know it all kind of happened so fast, you know what I'm saying, like five or so minutes the situation was kind of over with and we can't marketing and so they could have been something you know that happened after I left but I did not know that jailing was so heavy me about making sure that this was a tawdry protest, you know a safe one. So, you know, that's just wasting that only lasted five minutes about somebody who's really really wants to see it being a safe and you know positive protest who know they could have gotten worse but I mean for me, like I said, I only know that at that time one person off the tank we weren't getting arrested like didn't you know and we kept him moving and I left and I I didn't think anybody did did get arrested but like you said, you know after the fact I thought you said three people I didn't see anything. I didn't see three people are here about that until after the fact better that people didn't get arrested, but we just hope everybody was safe and able to log Protest peacefully, I know that in Boston there was peaceful protesting and then some buildings got set on fire and looted and that of course then casts a bad luck on the entire beautiful peaceful coming together of people to fight for a very important cause right. I'm going to see someone that's true people want to forget that, you know, a lot of these protests are people. I mean, I would probably say 85% you know, I mean protest or whatever 90% you know, their intentions are very peaceful, but then I you know it just something giving group just seem to come in and put that little flame or that little spark in somewhere and you know with what we're dealing with what everybody's doing with, you know, they starting to get this rain, you know from their heart and it's because everybody has a reason to feel like you have a reason to press the way they want. You know, what we do have people who rely name. Certain people to react on a little easier until they want to put the extra flame in and then allow for it just to blow and it's unfortunate, you know, because like you said it takes away from all a great thing that you know people in organizations are doing in America. Absolutely you said on the caption for your beautiful photos this camera of mine is my weapon and I choose to shoot people for good not hate our voices need to be heard and these photos are my voice for the people and I think that's so beautiful because you marched peacefully you protested peacefully you took these photos to commemorate and share with the world. It's just I'm just blown away by what Jalen organized and what all of you did we would love for you to tell people where they can see photographs where they can find you on social media so that they can support you and just anything that you think people should know about these protests or a message that you have for this month. Yeah, I'm making is right now. Everybody's going through something everybody. Something is different in the way they feel so we we have people can't get along with each other about how we want to agree with this point America in a situation where you know, people have done so many different things and so many different things haven't worked better than others wage is hard and so we we people have to sit back and tell you know, what I get it and understand you are allowed to cry. We all have our differences in the what I might be but we would just have to tell you know, what America and you know as a whole in going to get better as far as what's being torn down or this sign up there, you know, we have to realize sometimes you know, a life is more important than you know, and they building over here what not, you know that time and it's hard to say but you know, we have to allow people to time and green and whatever that is for them. You know, we have to pay know what that's how you want to dead. I'm not allow you to grieve right now, you know and so for me when it comes to my photos, everybody has a purpose, you know, not everybody's perfect is off on that front line everybody, you know to go out there and help people, you know, your presence might be, you know, donate your purpose might be to put out a post your service might be just to play with em, you know, but for me, you know, I sit here and grand time, you know, I was like, what do I do? You know if I ask me so much of what my grandfather's doing and it's like okay, you know he had time now. What can I what can I do? And so for me it's photography, you know photography and Powerful things. We you know, the way I started was doing things in Africa and shooting and so I've I've always had this love for telling, you know, positive stories and telling stories that wage. You know might be a little scary but you know in the meaning behind it. So for me in this moment the way that I help me is you know and take it slow and allowing people who maybe don't want to see the negative with the positive and can see the positive grieving and the positive hurt, you know in a scent and so at the end of the day everybody has a purpose and you can't tell from what they should do. What they shouldn't do as far as how to help. You know, that people want to see my photos, you know, they can they can check me out on Instagram then a few places. You can go chaos and photos K and N A l s t o n photos or they can go to my media page and my phone will be up in the rep named diverse. Mini d i v as in victor e r s underscore media and that's how they can you know, check out my photos and on my main page. Pain, I mean I'll be putting a I'll probably put out a little more. So yeah, that's where you know if they want to you know, check out what I've done and hopefully, you know in the next few days, you know, I can make it to another protest and do my part, you know by you know, speaking my truth speaking how I feel and being able to document, you know, the positive it's nothing wrong with documenting the hard thing too. Because you know people have to understand the reality for the same time though there I want to be able to show a balance a balance of here, you know the positive side when understand that everything's not perfect. And so there's going to be this song and America, you know, I I think we it's time to figure out you know, what that next step America hears our cries, you know, it's beautiful how many states how many people that come together, you know, never have I don't think we've ever had nothing to protest years. And so I think people are here. I think people hear the cries and now, you know after the new guy off. No, what do we do next? You know? What? What's the next? You know, I can't just be like processing the media's out here. What do we do next? What are the next steps? I think we're going to be I think you should find a way it's time. I think like I said people have heard the cry. They they've heard the cry. So I think we're going to be on like we're going to find a way it's not going to be a fast. It's not coming in fast anything but you know, I think we don't we don't we don't take that and and thing things going to start but I think the biggest thing that we can do first outside of protesting and God and that's what it is, you know, it's you know in our town talking to a little TV box not counting without a boat without a Boat Boat Boat and let me do that, you know, we can bring in the fact that we feel like can help make change. And so yeah that pretty much it. Come out. Thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us and share your story. You mentioned your grandfather. So just for the listeners who don't know your grandfather. There was one of the early civil rights leaders and he worked closely with Martin Luther King and then went on to become actually the mayor of Atlanta. So the fact that you're speaking to us about your peaceful protest experience in Atlanta. It's just a really powerful story and we're just so grateful that you shared it with us. Thank you so much and we're so grateful that you shared your faith Fe with the world. The photos are incredible. That's not me. I I really appreciate you know, you guys taking out the time that you know, speak to people who had some choice because end of the day we just want to uplift I'm going to make sure that positivity comes out of it, you know, we want to go back, you know, seven years one hundred years, whatever maybe we don't we don't want to go back to that page. No, I mean, we just want to change what part of table and you know, you guys been able to talk to people who want that change and one in a positive way. That's a big thing and tell you I appreciate you guys for that are slowly The Only Way Forward is with love and kindness not with hatred and violence, and we're just so grateful that you shared all of this with us today. Thank you so much. No problem. Thank you. We hope you enjoyed that interview. I know it was pretty powerful to kind of get that first-hand account of what it was like to be with Jaylin at the protests and just so admirable now we want to direct you guys took some resources and places you can donate and further educate yourselves join color of change its free and they'll direct you to online campaigns and power and help fight Injustice and black community that all you need to do is sign up and they'll literally just email you important petitions to sign and things that you can do. So it's a really for lack of a better word convenient way to make a difference without having to seek out a lot of external resources. That being said you should still be seeking out other ways to help but It is really great that like I can wake up in the morning and there's petitions in my inbox that I can sign and I know that no matter what else happens in my day. I have at least done that long. So bare minimum join color of change and signed petitions that they send you. It's 100% free and you can also invite your family and friends to do it too. And then of course just like read books and listen to podcasts like the one I was just mentioning about Arian Foster that just are from people that have different perspectives and backgrounds than your own, you know to just broaden your horizons, especially talk about these issues donate to fail funds. I know here in Massachusetts, you can do Mass bail fund act blue has a page where you can donate and they'll stick your donation across multiple organizations. So you can kind of sprinkle the love all over. Yeah, and we're going to link that to in the description friends of mine and family member. Asked what they could do for me for my birthday and I sent them the ACT blue page people who have the ability to donate donate or support businesses owned by people of color. People are making lists of black owned restaurants in different cities that you can order takeout from to support them businesses online that you can shop for clothes jewelry candle beauty products. HomeGoods all kinds of things that are owned by black people and you are supporting not only small businesses, which has been like a huge thing during coronavirus of supporting, you know, shop local support businesses, you're doing that. You're also supporting black people and helping them just do your part to make this world a better place for yourself for your future for your children for Humanity at the end of the day just like what kind of person do you want to be? This is not the time to stay on the sidelines. This is the time to stand with Humanity be on the birth. Side of History we need to make the world. We need to make the future better than the present. We have two. That's the end of my rant and that's the end of our show. Thanks so much for listening this week. We hope you got something out of it and we have another pretty cool interview for you guys. Yeah, BoB Kendrick who is the president of the Negro Leagues museum has been a friend of mine out for a few years. I'm lucky to call him a friend. I've interviewed him for girl at the game.com a few times and when we started the podcast, I really wanted to have him on as a gift because I admire him so much. 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Hour 1: Anything Can Happen In The Bubble

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That's twenty percent off anything you water when you use Promo Code Dan Liquid IV DOT COM store fuelling your adventures today at Liquid I-i've dot Com Promo Code Dan PC's the Dan lebatardshow with this two spot podcasts. This is so good if you're just joining us right now I strongly urge you to go download the digital our that we just did the local hour we just did because as. The new morning show was starting on ESPN radio four hours of keyshawn Jay will and Zubin with one hundred guests including Bill Belichick we are stumbling around in a way that is uncommon even by our standard of Sewage K. J. Z. I may new morning show? Fed Essay. They looked better while you do not sound fantastic. That is just perfect. What just happened there let me watts yes I'm being Scott you're just incompetent like this. This is where we've arrived. No. This is where we've arrived and I want to get this out there because this is why your sports flashes were taken away. This is why they did. You just hear Mike did you hear how wonderful Christine Lisi sounded doing that update and how terrible stugatz sounded with his very first sentence that was soaked in the Corona Virus I was rolling on that let me get the audio suits. I want you to be able to hear I want you to be able to hear how bad you sounded Mike while you're at it as if you haven't done enough this morning, if you can also get me Christine Lisi real quick because I want to talk to her I've been still got. She's so professional. I go way back with her we used to do the Sunday. Morning shows where she was the update person I don't even know if she was just starting his career starting career then or not. But Christine is there now she has replaced you rightfully earned on merit We sound much more professional with her doing the sports updates. There's no shame in hurry placing me. I am happy to pass the baton to her again just to recap from last week she's third all time in my sportscenter anchor update anchor. She is third all time in my power rankings behind the make man John Mako Wfan Bob use slur of Wfan as she's just ahead of Bob because he used to work here at ESPN. This is an legend I disagree. Dan The Duke Davis Needs. Interestingly she is at the top of the list, he's not anybody's a third. So Christine. We are delighted delighted to have your professionalism involved in our general sewage. I hope we don't stain you in any way with all of this stuff around here. That is not as professional as you are good morning I'm so happy to be with you guys. I'm really excited. Okay. So this is going to be goods through God's because we don't know what the rules are. Christine like. We don't know. Do you know what the edict is from on high on why it is or how it is that Stugatz got replaced on this? We saw an email chain that said that what he was is not professional enough that it's it doesn't live up to the ESPN brand standard is that something you've heard discussed in the hallways up there in Bristol I have not heard anything. I was just presented with this opportunity and I am more than happy to take his updated. God. Season and I don't think anyone else can kind of. You, that sort of thing no no, you're right vigils so gentle you're so nice. Thank you for just making that a so antiseptic you went into almost coachspeak there in terms of protecting our players she did thank you for the compliment but you have the updates and I wonder from someone who is third all time power rankings I on Dan third for me you can move up the chain here but I am wondering, do you find them to be unprofessional? Do you feel like this was a decision by ESPN or what do you think? Well, I I think that again you are a very unique, you approached the updates and you do a great kicker I don't think anybody can do a kicker like you. All right That's very nice of you to say but I'm going to now We did not plan this. It's just the way it worked out if you're not with what's happening around here ESPN is debuting a new radio lineup. The morning show looks fantastic it didn't sound so great. They had some audio difficulties when they started today but So did we and so this sort of thing tends to happen but I, want to compare Christina wants you to enjoy and understand why it is. God's was replaced doing this your update there and some people didn't hear it. But it was flawless. It didn't have a single hiccup in it, and then we started our show after their professional morning show and I want you to hear Stu Gods I want you to absorb. Okay I sent issue spoke and how it sounded this sentence with both your audio distortion and just the general illness that resides in your throat Jay Z.. New Morning Show, they sound fed asset they looked better. Off. Just. Zorba again, the juxtaposition of Christine Lisi not a hiccup in her update and then Stu. Gods morning hose very first word. Hey, Jay Z. I mean new morning show. At sick they look that. And I'm on my third show. My, can you pinpoint please the exact moment that the flim closes completely got his throat. Hey Sam fed asset they looked better. It hurt yeah. All right. So Christine welcome aboard. Thank you for being with us. Can you tell me though? Are there any rules? Can we like put some and finalize in there in the update for you or does it have to be like totally serious thing just can report a couple of sentences in your updates or is that not allowed? Well we'd we might have to do it outside of the updates because they're. In their only supposed to be fifty seven seconds but we could I mean I that would be a decision that's above me to make. We can always cut some sports news if you. Dangerous timer here. Illegally Totally deserves the CACKLE I. Know that that's not the way the company is shifting into. But he could take out a little sports news. Well, we'll talk about over time. To put you in a bad position with management so we will do late. Christine. All right. We'll check back with you and we will see if we are allowed what we're allowed to do and what we're not allowed to do. But the thank you and welcome aboard. We are happy to have you on our pirate ship. I'm delighted to be working with you. I'm excited. Thanks guys. All right. So put her a of spots immediately. Yes Chris I feel like she was probably looking forward to today like an crew but I feel at this point now she's already like what have I gotten into Yeah. WE'RE GONNA ask uncomfortable questions on air about what's happening up there in. Bristol. But this is Stugatz right here. Again, I just want you to enjoy on the day. Show gets demoted on the day. stugatz loses his updates on the day. ESPN radio is rolling out a beautiful looking new lineup. This is how Stugatz the boulevard show comes out of the Gate K. J. Z. I may new morning show ISAF head fantastic they look better. Choked up I'm happy Zubin. When you need your bank capital one is right in the palm of your hand. So you can check your balance deposit checks, pay bills, and transfer money from your phone with a top rated up and when you're done banking, put it back in your pocket, a banking experience built around you and your life. This is banking reimagined get started online anytime. 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You've already got you through the distorted baseball games with fake fans in the crowd and the Basketball Games where the audio drops out and the players looked like video games in the virtual fans after all of this after all of the movements in the street. ESPN is trying very hard today to announce to everyone sports back beginning today there's a new morning show. It looks really glossy. NBA Playoff game immediately after we go off the air the NBA playoffs comment and games with stakes not these distorted baseball games not fighting over in. College football. Games with stakes after months of ESPN being a place where there was a lot of social justice commentary, the machine is trying to get back into place today and so. The morning show. Ended Teasing Greenie at noon as if we don't exist if we're not here so I need to promote to you guys in the audience because they're not doing it for us here at ESPN. I mean to promote to you guys that are local hour today was fantastically awful and you're gonNA love it. If you're a fan of this show and the digital, only our is fantastically awful and you're gonNA love it. If you're a fan of this radio show but where we are right now, Stu gods is right now the machine tries to get back into place sports today things get back to normal. When we sign off should we should we just promote ourselves that we'll be back tomorrow at ten am as it's no one. Else's promoting US I'm excited that sports is. Is Back and I'm excited for this quadruple header today on ESPN I mean you get NBA playoff basketball from essentially one thirty in the afternoon it's all about eleven thirty at night, and it's literally like Christmas Day visit it's what the NBA is on Christmas except it's playoff games all day it's games with steaks I I did and when you take the fans at home court advantage and all this, we'll see how it plays out but I have. Never had less confidence in the one seeds coming out of each conference than I do right now like it feels like anything can happen inside of this bubble like I'm excited for the eight one matchup Portland. Lakers that's going to be fun. Window I is saying that never has a one C bought you less than what the Lakers have bought themselves because now they get Lillard in the first round and because there is a shift in a movement. Despite all the noise outside the bubble, get the sports bubble live in this sports bubble with us. Stu got wants to give you sports. stugatz desperately wants to get back to and I couldn't believe it. When he said before the show, I'd rather have Lillard 's career than Kevin Durant Stugatz wants to he actually said it something he believes go ahead, make the argument please make the argument prisoner of the moment because you desperately want to get back to talking about. Sports just like everyone else around here Damian Lillard please please hear this and experienced this. The right way he is stayed put. I believe he'd CJ mccollum I've taken shot subtle shots at Kevin Durant his decision to leave Oklahoma City and joined the Golden State Warriors. Who did not need at the time because people like damn already calling them the greatest team he's ever seen. Play in the NBA and so Damian Lillard at Kevin Durant or to totally types of different types of competitors. Katie is a guy where if you can't beat them join them. Damian Lillard is a builder. He might not win a title, but he'll stay put and he'll do his best to win the city and the organization Jim that drafted him. That's been loyal to him and try to win that city a title. Now he might not but he made it to the final four West Europe and he did so dramatic fashion sending Paul George and all those guys all this is all I'm saying Kevin the ranch, the better player Kevin. Durant GONNA end his career having more rings. Accolades going to have more stuff. But Damian, Lillard. Has What Kevin Durant will never have the respect of his peers. Full respect from his peers I don't believe Kevin Durant is ever going to fully get from everyone in the NBA Damian. Lillard already has it. I would like to step back. And look at the macro and everything that just happened here because as ESPN CHANGES ENTIRE ESPN radio lineup to give you a fresher different sports feel stugatz decided to recycle his Kevin Durant take and make an argument that could have been made about anybody in the last decade since Lebron James did the decision you literally just broke in as if the first segment wasn't bad enough where you're first words are just a horror because. You can't get them out. You think you dale that point and it's a point that echoes across the entire decade of tired STU got. So in the first segment, you give this K. Jay Z. I may new morning show south as they look better and in the second segment as ESPN tries to revolutionize the ESPN radio lineup, you recycle decade-long take in order to swipe at Kevin Durant again, which people can't hear enough from you. What have you given just out of curiosity. These show aim free time for some ads. Resentment yeah. Just resentment and how it is you do the job. That you get to work less than foul everything up and it always works out for you adds a good take. I'd rather have Damian Lillard score was one nothing give it the Red Damian Lillard will probably never wanNA. Thank you Chris. I see your non of approval they're Gods I'd say he's he's got respect the rams as I understand God's but it's the same thing we were arguing about ten years ago when it came to Lebron James did he take the respect or not because he took the coward's way out to he joined another team everyone crushed him and what ended up happening what because you're saying this about Lebron James Ten. Years ago I was not I totally different circumstances the broad created a team. The heat weren't good before the brand got there. He created a team with way to know what I mean. All Day was historically good. You know what? I mean Lebron and Kevin Durant the two of them over the last decade they have been the story today. The playoffs are something different Lebron is weakened. Kevin Durant is not even in them and you prisoner of the moment immediately lands in a place where you give give him a week he's going to say in a week the Damian Lillard career was better than Lebron James. This is good stuff. Higher. Whole. Dawn upon florally the range zone of sports regards to Lord segment cars. Running mate CJ mccollum good enough to give them you look. All. To God's love your toward more tell me more is coming next factors you thirty Tim how? Right now, making informed decisions is more important than ever especially when deciding when to return to the workplace and how to do it safely. That's IBM. Watson is helping businesses prioritize employee safety, manage facilities, and trace potential exposures with Watson works a set of a infused capabilities. Your Business can protect the health safety and productivity of its people. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT COM Slash Watson works to learn more. Billy why are you laughing? What? Who are you laughing at? Why are you laughing? Keyshawn J. Will Zubin have better Kevin that you guys one day in. This is what is great about what is happening here in the first segment here of this new ESPN radio lineup. This is what Stu gods gave you a voice covered in disease K. J. Z. I. Mean New Morning Show. Hey, sound. Fantastic. They look better. The second segment you decided to reheat recycle a ten year old Kevin Durant Lebron James. Greatest. Hits from the stugatz album and then the third segment because you're not here in the studio, and this is why you lost your updates I feel like the third segment you start out by just reading over a bed of Parody Song Christine are you still there because it was a joy to hear how professional your update sounded are you still there with him? Yes do you think you should start doing the reeds for souks to God so that you so they don't get read over parody songs when he's not supposed to be reading whenever you need me to do I can do but I don't want to take anything away from anybody you already have so. It's too late for that Christine Yari you've already come in here with your professionalism and Stu gods seems to be maximum countering you by just being on what has been a really dreadful day for us just being maximum Stugatz so far today so We. Appreciate everything you're doing here. Did you get any answers for me on whether or not? We can do and finally in your sports updates or can I just ask you that every time until we've got an answer? No, I haven't I haven't yet. I'm just waiting for my my boss to get in to come in and see me so and who is that pizza on? Okay. So we'll see we'll check with pizza and we can blame him or not blame him. If we do not get the end finally, he's probably got a run that up the chain a little bit right I I'm thinking maybe I wonder where that will die. where? where? where? It might be with me because I might not remember to ask him. Okay. Thank you for being on with his Christie and I'm going to keep going to you at every turn when I can because it's vastly more professional than the rest of what we're doing around here. Thank you for being on with us. We'll check back in with you. You sound good. We do not sound good. Students I want to get back into something we were talking about in the local hour because it's not something that people would be privy to nationally but it was a rory ously funny in terms of just general awkward okay. So you've got two different broadcasts during the Atlanta Braves Marlins, game. The braves broadcast is. Don Mattingly being from game and because the Acoustics in the marlins stadium, which is always empty. Are Wonderful. You can hear him just. F- bombing again and again, and again, ojected from the game comes out has an awkward social distance argument with the umpire in which he keeps pulling his mask down over his nose he's too close and F. Bombs all over the place that's on the braves broadcasts. But on the marlins broadcast, they had been teasing. This was so funny Stugatz they had been teasing for innings that coming up next was the curator in the head of the Negro Leagues Museum and you know we're GonNa do this awkward celebration of one hundred. Years of Negro Leagues and it's a celebration even though what we're celebrating really is that black people weren't allowed to play with white people hundred. Years ago like it's pretty just an amazing thing to have happened one hundred years later in the middle of what we're going through right now that it's sort of a celebration of something that was truly awful. One hundred years ago. But it's been a hundred years of Negro Leagues Baseball that was being celebrated and they brought on the head of the Negro Leagues, Museum and they asked him a question. They had not accounted for this man being a bit of a year and they could not interrupt him while on the a totally empty fields to God's Don Mattingly is storming out of the dugout. He's talking about the Negro Leagues and Josh. Gibson and Willie mays and Hank Aaron and the two white announcers. Wild manningly is pointing at the umpire while Mattingly's dropping f bombs all over the place while you have a moment of genuine baseball excitement where there is rage on the field and it's not just shifts and strikeouts and the game slowing down but the two white guys in the booth simply cannot interrupt. Who is celebrating the Negro Leagues and so what you have happened is don mattingly a check from a game and this guy just keeps talking about the Negro League keeps talking about the Negro Leagues the next at Bat starts and neither the play by play man nor the colored guy. Neither one of them can. Get in a word edgewise and Chris, and billy, just furiously texting each other because they're sort of disoriented by everything that's happening here. Chris. What was the funniest part of all of it imagining producers yelling at Hollandsworth get in there get in there and islands were saying, no, I'm going to check swing on this one. I'm going to let this guy there'll be plenty of arguments social distance or otherwise I'm going to let this talk for as long as like the talk it was. Either it was either the conversation that you knew was happening in the headsets between the producer and the announcer says, you knew you know that the producers were like jump in, they're jumping now and Todd Hollandsworth and Paul. Severino were just like Nope I'm not jumping in right now. But the other part was don mattingly continuingly having to lift match up and then them realizing that they got to close. So they had to separate and all this is b roll to a very serious that. Actually, think they were telling DOT Hollandsworth don't jump in there because Todd Hollandsworth has his default where he chuckled before he says things sometimes. So he would just interrupted what the guy was saying Bob Kendrick say with A. By, the way donny, baseball out there. The whole? Unbelievable. It was so funny to watch as an honest moment on television where they simply were afraid to interrupt. The Guy who's the head of the? Negro. Leagues Museum and isn't that perfect in these troubled times that you can't even get to a baseball argument without the social stuff interrupting. Photo thrown off your game stick to a winning game plan with odor eaters featuring three advanced wetness fighters. The lineup provides long-lasting odor control plus more to keep your feet on their game odor eaters. Powder provides outstanding moisture control cleaner drying sprays, the MVP and preventing athlete's foot while insoles were continuously to manage wetness while adding a layer of comfort, pick up today at Walmart target CBS, dollar general or other fine retailers. Odor eaters destroy foot odor with the best in odor defense. A tweeter writes in Stugatz. When will Dan ever realize that everyone does not work for Dan? You don't get the show. I'm going to have to explain parts of what we do to some people around here. This is the show about a show. That's what we do here on a day that has dawned here that is a new radio, Lineup Chris you've written in the chat I wanNA show everybody what's happening in this chat right now let them behind the scenes here on the zoom. First of all, Chris Cody has said if you drink every time. Dan mentioned. ESPN's new radio lineup. You are already hammered I. Don't know why anybody would be playing that as a drinking game but have you not realized that we need to promote everything around us. Chris. You not realize that everyone needs to be supporting everyone else here as the corporation decides to celebrate a new lineup and forgets about us again and again from ten to noon even though we are the biggest radio show in sports radio in America they keep. Forgetting that we're here and they've got glossy sets and everyone is dressed up and we'll see we'll see how it goes for everybody on their glossy sets all dressed up when they haven't worked together before and we will see how they endure the inevitable rage that they're going to get because they haven't worked together before and it's not gonna be pleasant at the beginning as it wasn't for us because people will make it real unpleasant before you can. Find Your. Voice, those guys have not worked together in the morning give them some time. Please to work together before you start with your criticisms because this is what it sounds like after seventeen years of working together I'll remind you the guys after us by the way to worry about that. They are doing solo shows. Okay. That's right and it's just wonderful that you would say after the show you've had today that this is what it sounds like. Seventeen years of chemistry but Chris. What's the problem with me advertising ESPN'S NEW RADIO LINEUP? I'm being corporate help pool here you know what? Dan this one's on me your tone is great promoting this lineup. And I'm out to take a look in the mirror and it really assessment my assessment do please look in the Mirror Chris because you and everyone else around here works for me even though you don't work for me now something else in the chat though, and this is me of being a letter Faucet i. don't know whether this is supposed to be on air or not you mean leaky faucet. Card. Whatever you guys know you know it's not supposed to be on. You're just GONNA do it should I not put this on air. I'm going to say with one hundred percents certainty whatever is about to come out of your mouth probably should be private. Are Well who's going to get in trouble for the back and forth on the slot in the hours you guys are talking about we don't do that. That's that's that's a private conversation. We can't say anything around you. I'm just going to have to back channel. Okay. So but I just want to know what interfering with our ability to do the show become a thing I can't I have to be careful with what? I say around you, it's not mine tire life. Isn't fodder. Okay. It's not content. Sometimes, people have business conversations that are just meant to be closed doors. Why? Why am I the only one tire life is over for Dan to do whatever he wants with why is that that a rule on the show because we have bosses and some of the back and forth here is about the technical ways that we do a radio show and it's being infringed on from a number of different angles and so I want to. Know what's happening and I want to show the audience so that the audience can see what's happening around here because I like to be transparent in the doing of this radio show and so I don't think that's wrong for me. Just ask your objecting to house something's going to sound on the air because they're making yet another change to how we do the structure of the show I have to do this okay up in a minute so we have a live now. At the end of the first segment, I don't like how it sounds having a live read the box. In the first segment we use sportscenter read that would get some advertising in there, but it would mainly be content. I didn't WanNa live read in there I asked Roy could we move it because we had an open slot and apparently we can't it sold in has to be ten fifteen I'm really glad the rest of the national audience got to find this fascinating. Is this transparency rabble rousing Dan. Put It on the pole. Guillermo. At lebatardshow is Dan interested in a transparency or rabble-rousing. What a great expression by you billy seriously nobody your age uses that expression. Who who is rousing rabble what is a ravel and how does it you are? How does a rabble rouse put it on the poll as well at Lebatardshow? How does? Get do you know how a route around? Clearly you do you how a rabble gets roused what I'm not leaky faucet tarred.

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This is inside the Parker you give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop on Major League Baseball now here's baseball hall of fame voter. Number. Eighty six. Rob Parker I welcome into the PODCAST. We have a great show for you. Today I am your host Rob Parker and forber astros manager Bo Porter will stop by and give us some playoff insight also Newsday baseball columnist. Dave Lennon, Hill, also jumping tell us about the Yankees and what they didn't gave one of the Indians that and much more. Let's go. To lead off, it's getting raw and keep them up. Rob's take the three biggest stories in major league baseball. Number One. Oh my what a Baseball Plethora on Wednesday eight playoff games a just a just a smorgasbord of games to watch action to. Take in. It was incredible. But unfortunately, for the Minnesota twins in their fans, it was the same old same old story. The twins were swept by the Houston Astros. Twins of now lost. Are you ready for this hold onto your bonnet eighteen in a row? It's a North American sports record eighteen playoff games in a row more than any NHL team NBA team NFL team I mean they are in first place by themselves. With the record of eighteen in a row, and it is just just embarrassing I mean they played well down the stretch won the division out of nowhere when it looked like they weren't going to win the division had the home series and then only up scoring two runs and their bats just went totally silent the Astros who just didn't look like a good team. Came into the series. Two Games under five hundred and they sweep them. So here we are. Again, if you're a twins fan, you know what? You might as well cry in your beer because they just seem like no matter what team is put together how potent offense is who's pitching for them? WHO's the manager none of it seems to matter they keep losing. Number to say it isn't so. Yes the most hated team baseball AMERICA DOES HOUSTON ASTROS MOVE ON They didn't even have a winning record. Go look at the stats I'll to had a terrible year. George Springer struggled. They didn't have Garrett cold who of course, went to the Yankees in near rotation ver- was heard the dude what the cheating scandal they were berated and embarrassed and talked about and. By. All the players and the fans of Major League Baseball. Day Luckily. Back their way into the playoffs everybody thought maybe the twins with beat them and that would be the end of the twenty twenty Houston Astros. We wouldn't have to see them or hear from them again and that they basically got off Scot free because they didn't have to face the wrath of fans. But no, they're moving on to the division series Saudi. Astros on going anywhere anytime soon, they advance and they continue to rub it in the fans the face of baseball fans number three. It's been an incredible ride so far for the Miami Marlins who won game one of their best of three wildcard series against the Chicago cubs at Wrigley on Wednesday and the Marlins when you think about how to season started for them. With the Cova did they had. Eighteen players. Test positive and think that they couldn't play games early on the outbreak. Derail their season coming into the season they were twenty two one. That those were the odds of them making the playoffs. You Know Derek. JEETER has been ripped up and down about all the moves how they've gotten rid of the big stars that the Marlins had and. All these young kids they view sixty one players this year on their roster because of the Kobe and because of other things in injuries and they just had to keep digging, it tells you how deep their farm system is. But there they are with a chance to advance and knock off the cubs. You know after game one victory and you gotta give Jeeter some credit because he was getting all the blame and the one thing about the Marlins don't pooh-poohed them the last two times they've been in the playoffs. They've won the world series each time. Yes indeed they have. Here comes the big interview. Listen, and learn so good. All right. Now let's welcome to the program former Houston Astros manager blow porter who has a new project we'd want to hear about are called core magazine. He's also a baseball analyst for the Washington Nationals Hey Bo welcome to the podcast. Robert Thank you so much for having me on I've always always a pleasure to be able to sit and talk baseball and sports with with you. No doubt. Let's just go real quick the. San Diego padres you know made the playoffs great exciting story, and then they get bad news there as Mike cleven who they got from the Indians couldn't pitch as off the wildcard roster. They put in Chris Paddock who gets beat up in the first in and how devastating is that not to be able to have your ace going game one. Shocking news I mean whatever you look at you know teams that have good seasons and you think about the guy that you from a standpoint of being confident every time they take the ball it's the confidence. It's a confidence boost to the ball club when you have your own amount and when you lose that component is shock shockwaves throughout your ball club. Speaking of pitch and let's get the Tampa Bay a lot of people like Tampa Bay lot of people think they're going to get to the world series. We know about snell their race and they're pitching how good is their pitching and is a good enough to get them to the world series. What I think is good enough, and when you look at Tampa Bay, the strength of their kitchen is. And it's not just the deck when you look at this starters and their convention too at the same time meaning they're not afraid to use the opener. It's all about matches and they have one in the baseball. Hall. Our guest is Bo, porter former Houston Astros manager, and MLB analysts. Let's talk about the Oakland as. They lost game one of the playoffs and for years ago when they got in a lot of time they win and as a wildcard and it only have that one game and they've wind up getting knocked out in the playoffs. They finally win the West and it would have been a one game while they would have been out because they lost game one but they bounced back in game two. How good are the Oakland A.'s and? Having a series finally looks like it might help them out. Yes I think the series it's definitely gonNA. Help them out when you look at Hoaglund Age and the White Sox I think is by far the best match in the first round of the playoffs and either one of these teams whether it's whether it's the white sox or whether it's the Oakland either one of them can run the table to the world series but I think Oakland built they Ross you a little bit different this time I think this roster is actually built for the long haul and I, I have to come out of this series against against the white stock had been able to advance. Let's talk about advance in one team and we all know the Los Angeles dodgers are stacked. They were forty three and seventeen by far the best team in baseball record. Wise. Put, do. They have to win the dodgers have won a world series since one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, and they've also when you look at have been the world series two of the last three years and haven't been able to win do they need to win this year? I I've never won rob that's a world series a bus because I realized just how hard it is to win the world series and when you look at the law dodgers and the tremendous success in which they've had, you know on this on this run in which they'd been on I would say that this is a team that has been best suited to win the world series I think that there are more balanced now when. They when they add mookie Betts and they went from a left handed dominant lineup. So where now they have to balance that they've been missing when you add mookie back into that lot of which have been turner and the other guys that they have. So I think when you look over the course of you know the successive with the dodgers have happen joy I believe that this roster is the best roster that they've taken into the postseason. Let's talk about the brewers who they're facing. The brewers were under five hundred Christian Yelich struggled no Lorenzo Cain. He, opted out during the season they were twenty, nine and thirty one. Do they have any shot at beating the dodgers? What do I mean when you look at that's why you play the Games the Games and not one on paper I believe the doctors better team I believe that the dodgers are gonNA come out of this year's, but they won't come out of this series. They take the bruins lightly if they come out and they take care of business, I believe that they should be able to batch against the brewers into games I don't think it goes three but that's why we play the game are not gonNa roll over. So the doctors are going to have to beat them. Last thing. About core magazine and how people can. Subscribe and find out find it. Core core is a magazine that's It's about champions of real excellence. We have five pillows with the magazine and its business it's sports. It's leadership is philanthropy and it's marketing. It's the website is www dot core hyphen MAC dot com it's. A quarterly periodical in which even we're to feature you know stories about champions first publication as the apex of Sports Mike Rizzo. Apex of leadership, Bill parcells we have beaches, stories caught both the business, and that's Clare who have champing at their ball, their career, and now they're champion the business base and be Armstrong will be featured in that. We also have our champion for causes. And that is people who have champion their professional career, and now they're champing filter blocks face. We're going to honor Negro, League Museum President Bob Kendrick with our champions for call this. It's all about when I. When I thought about, you know launching this magazine Rob it was about tried to inspire empower people to do more and be more, and that's what being a champion. It's all about. Men congratulations best of luck. I can't for a way to look at it and get it subscribe. Thank you. Bo Bo pours his name. Thanks for your insight and your knowledge. appreciates. 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Make it up as we go drops October eighth only on the PODCAST Network Association with audio of media created by Scarlett Burke and Jerry Juiston. Says we? It's time for the pocket protector central, the analytic numbers you need to know well, maybe Anthony masterson is name BS analytics is his game. What do you got for me? Anthony. A twenty twenty regular season is in the books and it works storage if not wildly unorthodox champs finished in last the Marlins are in the playoff one soda posted the highest opiates for any player under twenty two in MLB. History. But I'm here talk about chain Bieber again. Yes. The Indians Ace will likely lockup beside young probably unanimously by virtue of winning the pitching triple crown leading the league in wins. And strikeouts people were so good. He didn't just leave the AL in those categories. She led all of baseball something that has not been done since Johan Santana did. So for the twins in two, thousand, six looking even farther back the previous American League pitcher lead all of baseball in those categories was the Tigers Hal new house back in nineteen forty five. Now bieber became the fastest player to reach one hundred strikeouts in the season doing. So in just fifty two and a third innings and his thirteen point two K for nine set another ultime. Besting Garrett Cole number from last season his one point six, three era was the lowest by an Al pitcher since they lowered the mound in nineteen, sixty nine to make it easier on the hitters and the real. The analytics is L. A. Plus which takes league and Ballpark into account and every number over one hundred is a percentage point better than the average would they monstrous to eighty one? That means he was one hundred, eighty, one percent better than league average and that number was only eclipsed by Pedro Martinez back in two thousand. So even though it was only twelve starts, it was one of the most remarkable seasons for pitcher in MLB. that. Was a big week in the big leagues. For is it fair and now? Shadow league, DOT COM, and it'll be insider JR gamble. The Astros barely made it into the sixteen team play offs and really haven't looked like a team capable of winning a world series especially considering that they don't have the advantages that they had in the past but they swept the Minnesota twins in the wildcard series. Jr is foul or fair to say that manager Dusty Baker has enough to lead Houston to a world series title. Winning the world series comes down to pitching in Houston doesn't have dominant staff twelve in being era without. And Coal, they had a pass run is still have the competence staff. A Hall of Fame Coach with more playoff experience than any of the other managers. And they have some of 'em vs theft players who have already got the job done and collect situation. Springer the former world series MVP Michael Brantley still hit machine and Jose out October due to get hot, and now might be the best time for him. Out Bregman also be. Despite the accusations to ask after having winning culture and then this wacky season anything can happen. There's no clear-cut favorites and if a few things for the Astros Way, they could definitely ended up in the world series. Besides Ross they have a lot riding on this respect legitimacy and the championship legacy of Dusty Baker. It's time for trash talk twitter with your chance to trash anyone or anything in major league. Baseball. This week's trash comes from. Ajax in Detroit. He tweeted me this the dodgers better beat the brewers Milwaukee didn't even belong in the playoffs. The brewers were twenty, nine and thirty one worst in a five hundred record. If the dodgers lose again and don't get to the world series with this squad, they have to say bye bye to manager Dave Roberts. If you want your tweet read here on trash talking hit me up all my twitter at Rob Parker F s one and you too could be like agent. What Rob was a newspaper columnist he lived by this motto. If I'm writing I'm rippin. Let's bring in a writer of broadcaster older new I. Now let's welcome into the podcast of mine I used to work with them at Newsday define baseball columnist for Newsday in New York Dave Hennen Dave welcome to the podcast. Hey. Rob Hardwick. Oh, man men doing great. I love to catch up with you and talk some New York Yankees Baseball. So let's do that and I I WANNA say Dave was game one a statement sent out by the Yankees to the American league that when healthy and got all their pieces they're dangerous because they beat up on a shame bieber who everybody thinks will win the American cy young how impressive was that game? Rob. You York is I mean we were we were really giving it to the Yankees pretty hard back here about how this was a team that was only creation of the Bronx. You know they needed to be in their comfy stadium with the Short Porch where they were twenty, two, twenty, two, and nine this year they were terrible on the road. If they get home field advantage, they were going to get knocked out quickly and of course you know the Yankees are telling us. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be fine short season when the lights go on, you know we'll. Be Ready where did they do rob? You know they made us look stupid. Once again because you know when they showed up in Cleveland and you're facing, let's face it. I mean Bieber's young. We don't have to say things like presumptive or favorite. He's winning. He's winning the CY young and what the Yankees did to him on opening night of the playoffs you're right hundred percent statement game four pitchers in judge takes over the wall and rob when Aaron judge does something like that. You see the rest of the Yankees lineup pretty quickly to follow him four home runs. Never really a game even when it was close early, it just didn't feel like a game with. Garrett Cole. About. Speaking of George let's go there i. think that was his night postseason home run. If this guy could ever stay healthy I mean and and you're right he's a lightning rod for that team and when he plays well, we I've seen this guy and you have hit big postseason home runs to tie games to do things. How good can he be if he could just stay healthy? The problem rob is that you know we forget sometimes because he's like in and out of the lineup so much because he's been hurt the past couple of years I mean this season Robert he was headed for the MVP you know before he suffered that calf straight I. mean he was putting up trump like numbers before he went on the. Injured list then he comes back and in the last ten games, you know he came back for the last ten games. Regular season didn't hit a home run at one extra base hit I think he was hitting around one ninety and again, everybody was wondering Ed judge going to be okay for the playoffs does he still need more time to get ready? Against some guys just have it rob right I mean some guys in October shows up or late September wherever we are right now. They're ready. You know I don a switch goes off them and judge is one of those guys and you just can't hit a bigger home run for his team than he did on Tuesday night. No doubt about it I'll guest is Dave Lennon baseball columnist for Newsday in new. York let's talk about Tanaka who was the game to start for the Yankees and people might not realize how brave he's been in the postseason impinge drive with coming into Wednesday. Night yet a one point seven, six era. He's been lights out. I it's hard to believe rob is that when the Yankees I signed Tanaka to that one hundred, fifty, five, million deal. You know he was the big. Ace in Japan that they got. Within the first couple of months you know they thought he was going to need Tommy John Surgery, and we're talking seven years ago. But what he did was they decided to do you know the the platelet rich plasma injections he did some Rehab came back. Elbow is never bothered him again and the guy really he's been the ace of the staff You know you've you've seen it through CC went from being a kind of moving further down on the rotation you know they have cold now. So he's moved up to be the number one but the real constant here rob all along has been Tanaka and with the Yankees as you know. The greatness of a picture or player is always measured in October. The regular season is fine. Whatever number should put up toward the regular season is fine but you really separate yourself and you really become kind of a a Yankee legend with your performance in October and that's Tanakh is done i. mean he's been a big game pitcher for them since he's arrived and you know they're hoping for the same thing with this. Lasting Dave when it comes to the Indians. Just, offensively when I look at that line up a lot of guys scuffling, do they have enough hitting 'cause? I know they have pitching but do they have enough hitting and the other thing going into game two on Wednesday night? Is that they had lost their last night? Elimination Games. When you look at that lineup, is it as weak? To you as it is to me. Rob If you talk to people around the League when you know when the playoffs seedings and starting to kind of come together. He didn't WanNA play the Indian but it was because of the pitching staff. They're short series. Nobody wants to face their top three guys in. Bieber, Carrasco and please act. Those are the pictures that scared people in the short series that was enough especially with their bullpen to with their top bullpen guys. So you know you talk to any other teams around but. Offense Rub. No I mean this lineup falls off pretty quickly after Opie Ramirez who you know. She should be the MVP in my mind to the American league. The warhead really down here for him Rob. So No, it's just not. There's just not a lineup that scares you. You know in years past the Indians have really been known as kind of an offensive team because really kind of knock you around progressive field that's not the case this year and and if the Yankees come in there and beat them up like they did in Game One you know they can they can do some serious damage. So I it's just not a deep enough lineup. Even if they get by the first round I, think to really be a threat much further. Art His name is Dave Lennon. He's a fine baseball columnists a friend of mine we used to work together when I worked newsday and Dave thanks for joining the podcast man, we appreciate it. We Miss You rob Becky have a good time out there on the coast and and stay safe. The Planning Charlemagne to God and it is a privilege in on it introduced to you a new podcast traits shot no chaser hosted by queen named Tesla Figaro. She is the hood whisper in this game of politics debut and on my new black effect podcast network on iheartradio. 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Red Sox Groundskeeper David Mellor on Fish in Fenway and Helicopter Field Drying

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Red Sox Groundskeeper David Mellor on Fish in Fenway and Helicopter Field Drying

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST visit baseball tonight. Podcast for Wednesday April Twenty Nine. Two thousand twenty a producing from his home studio in Connecticut. Is Taylor Schwenk? I'm buster only working for my home studio in Just north of New York City and Taylor. You know what I was doing this morning right. I have an inkling. The war continues against dead alliance this morning. A predawn raid fifty down and twenty minutes as had might say I went through the dandelions like crap went through a goose and feeling. Good about a Taylor did you. Did you count all fifty of them? Oh yeah you lay them out for body count. The I had a discussion about this with my neighbor yesterday competing with the best lawn in neighborhood he said you know. I started counting the Dandelions. Because you've been telling me that you've been counting on me. Said I stopped at three. I'm like what's the point of counting the Dandelions but for me it's you know manifestation of my work. That's how I'M KEEPING TRACK OF IT. I. I can't count at bats. I can't town innings. I can't tell looking for things to count and right. Now it's the Dandelions you should ask Tim Kirkman what scorebook uses and by one of them and then keep track John's book. I didn't even think about that. I'M GONNA keep Dandelions Oklahoma. You're right all right. It's appropriate conversation because today as we continue contributors week. We'll be talking with the head of grounds at Fenway Park. David Miller and I'll ask him about dandelions warfare. Also some stories about his time in his work in Paul indicators will jump in with a treetop on the latest news I some of those notes We heard from Baltimore's outfielder trae Mancini. Yesterday who revealed that he's recovering from Stage three colon cancer in doubts. He will play this season. If Major League Baseball returns the twenty eight year old made the announcement in his story he wrote for the Players Tribune. He will also speak later today with members of the media in Baltimore Major League Baseball's allowing teams to offer refunds to fans for games currently not being played because the corona virus pandemic previously games were considered postponed instead of canceled allowing teams to hold onto revenue generated from ticket sales. The pirates are suspending retirement benefits for members of the teams baseball operations staff in an effort to cope with the economic. Fallout of the pandemic general manager. Ben Harrington said Tuesday that the team has been searching for ways to find savings with the two thousand twenty season on hold. I heard about this. That owner Bob nutting has been looking for ways to save money and this is the route that they have chosen. Usa Today reported that appears the hall of Fame Ceremonies for two thousand twenty will be postponed the hall of Fame Board. We'll talk on Friday with an announcement likely to come. Friday perhaps Monday. One of the alternatives being considered is to just postpone the two thousand twenty ceremonies and fold them into two thousand twenty one by the way in the regular Writers voting. It looks like one candidate is likely to get in this winter former pitcher curt schilling and Bob Nightingale USA Today also reported on the three division format Major League. Baseball is considering. We'll get to that in a moment and before we get to David. Hembo a reminder that the F. e. p. pod presses on through the pandemic this week. Sbp AND STANFORD Steve Discuss. Dennis Rodman taking a midseason vacation to Vegas the Pistons. Not Shaking hands with the Bulls after losing plus Scott Yells at Stanford Stephen Big cat over. Ncwa fourteen. They talked to John. Salley Michael Wilbon Jackie. Macmullan find it wherever you get your podcast jumping into the numbers matthew evaluating millions. He's using data in the the Cincinnati by two hundred points. This is Hembo knows and AMMO. Is Paula McKee's researcher and ESPN? Who's a hot show in the show? get up. He says he's ahead hunt show. We have not confirmed that Hembo everytime at and we Bob Nightingale wrote a story of USA. Today about this. He dug more into the idea of three divisions. Possibly if baseball restarts and I feel like every time. One of these stories is published What is lost a context for no fault of the Writers Just because it's published it carries a weight that maybe doesn't necessarily have because they're talking about so many different plans in each has to be discussed. Each has to be vetted each has to be broken down each has to be explored. They're incredibly fragile because he's one executive said to me Yesterday if they restart baseball in one person gets infected. Then they have to shutdown like the UTAH. Jazz did back in March in the best comparison to me is a drowsy clerk. Win that drug. That was has been mentioned in the fight against the corona virus. It's one possible solution but they need to be studied. They need to be vetted they need to look at different elements of it and because it's one thing being discussed doesn't necessarily mean as we learned with the drugs a clerk win that it is actually a solution. What do you think we're so eager for solutions? And that's why we're so eager to jump at the possibility that baseball might return in whatever format soon as possible. But I think that you're right in saying that with no fault of the writers. A lot of these ideas are for lack of a better term pipedreams and we're so eager like they're almost being interpreted by the public as reporting and that's just not the case. I think if I were running Major League Baseball I would obviously be doing the same stuff in terms of outlining all the possible scenarios and. That's good I'd probably be a little bit more vigilant in ensuring that leaked I probably leaked a little bit less or at the very least provided information to the people I wanted to. That was a little bit more in the reasonable side and a and a little bit less on the really type side because a lot of these things that I read are just so And the question at least based on where the world is now that it seems to me sort of a waste of time. I think mainly League baseball should be focusing on a couple things here in particular the first how could we limit travel as much as we possibly can obviously the bubble city the hosts those hosts type cities format like that would be like a World Cup style round robin or whatever the case may be just past him. Get up today talking about that. I think is sort of foundation of something that could work. You obviously have to limit the travel. The second thing I would focus in on the the assumption the assumption that we're not going to play in front of fans. What we need to do is have a plan in place for whenever that does happen. Whenever we can't play games lord willing to we can to enhance that experience as much as possible. Buster everything's on the table. Something as wild as getting ballpark food delivered to you to your home while you're watching baseball game sometime in August should be on the table. If I were major league baseball those two things. The limiting of travel in the in the watching the game watching experience from your television should be the two things to be focused on all right. We've had a great parade of contributors on the PODCAST. So far this week that'll continue in a moment with David Miller. Who's ahead of grants or Fenway Park? On Friday. We will be talking with Janet. Marie Smith who of course was the person the architect who designed Camden yards. And I know Todd Radio. I feel the same way believed that she should be honored the hall of fame because that. Ballpark was a crossroad. I think in fan experience. What do you think dusty the best compliment that I can provide a new stadium that I visit for the first time is every reminds me of camden yards? There's so many things about it that you'll see across the league now in though it's only was built ninety two though it's less than thirty years old. Two thirds of the stadiums in the league had been replacing. There are a few things I'd like to point out just in my travels that I would say Remind me of Camden yards and in all cases. It's a good thing. Exterior brick facade is very similar citizens. Bank Park was the first thing that I thought when I went to my first phillies game in target In Minneapolis targets field both more has that beautiful skyline the way that field position to so perfect and strategic. That was my thought when I was sitting up in a four hundred level at target field. It reminds me of Camden yards. They had these open concourses. These stadiums for often very cramped in the concourse very challenging to maneuver camden yards gets footprint was huge. In relation to some of those older ballparks in reminds me a lot of great American and Suntrust Park in Atlanta and lastly I think the coolest thing about the stadium and I think a lot of people agree is the warehouse. The way that it's positioned it's an outline in relation to the field is so smart and obviously in San Diego. Petco has the warehouse in left field. That's built into it in a similar way. I think that's really cool that they were able to use the The building that was already in place to be a part of the ballpark experience and a half to say the warehouse is probably going to go down as one of the more conic things. That's ever been put in any ballpark because of the character streak like when you see the numbers changing on the warehouse as he does he approaches have been breaks Lou. Gehrig's that is an extraordinary thing bus there and you know to the genuity. Think of that. And then years down the road. It'd be able to be executed in that way. A truly brilliant thing that I don't think it'd be overstated now. I I agree. I'm really looking forward to that conversation and on Monday we're going to talk with Jeff Idelson former president of the hall of fame. We're GONNA get a lot of his stories and he's got a ton of them What's your take on on the in relation to hall of Fame Right Now? Well people ask me what my dream job is there and they usually say I would like to be the shortstop for the Phillies Given the fact that's probably Unrealistic they approach each season be hall of fame. President which is what he was formerly. Would be up there on that list. Field to play golf at those guys and to be you know fraternizing Like that is sort of like the dream for for for someone like me and for a lot of other baseball fans and I think I have. I have to give him. Credit Hall of fame receives a lot of criticism. And some of. It's fair for the way that the way that the last Inter fifteen years have gone specifically as it relates to the steroid users. But I think that's a good thing. Buster because when tells me that people care about the baseball hall of fame way more than all of the other ones and there's real value in that the stringent process for election and away in which voting goes is so much better and more controversial in baseball than any other sport and that's why the Baseball Hall of fame is infinitely better than any other sport and I think? I think you'd agree with me and saying this. Every baseball fan in every baseball writer should visit at least once because it does provide you a different perspective. I'm so tired of hearing the arguments. It's just a museum that is not the case. The Baseball Hall of fame is not just museum. It is part of the Baseball Hall of fame. But the busted a plaque room is holy ground and the way that I view the platform is very different. Pete Rose's represented and Baseball Hall of Fame Museum but he doesn't have a plaque the distinction. There is very important. It's something that you don't really feel unless you're in the building right. You and I are going to have an argument next week. Then 'cause I have always been a baseball museum and and that whole I mean when people use the word holy that's where they cross the line for me but you know what We hit on that next week. Thanks for example Looking forward to it. I'll bring my incident. David Meller ahead of grants for Fenway Park. He's also the author a book published last year. One base it at time. How do I how I survived? Ptsd and found my field of dreams. I in Dave. I was noticing on Amazon a bunch of reviews and pretty much all of them five stars like I've done a couple of books. I didn't come close to those types of reviews on very humble. Thank you for the opportunity to be on your on your podcast. You don't have I'm very humbled by the response we've received you know we. We wrote the book with the that if we could have one person Learn from our challenge it was worth writing and the response has been very powerful. So tell me in your interaction with folks a reaction that you've got that really stuck with you one person who connected with the book and came up to talk to you about it you know. It has just been really The response we've heard from people in all walks of life from the first book signing we had Two people drive up from Washington. Dc was in the CIA one was an FBI agent who had been dealing with PTSD and came to see us. We've had people From Highway Patrol and firemen from people who've dealt with sexual abuse to Rape two fires in their own home to car crashes to all sorts of trauma in their life. And I had someone reach out to me two weeks ago who work was dealing with. Ptsd from cove it and You know we want to let people know that they're not alone. That helps available and that treatment works. You know it's nothing to be ashamed of to ask for help. You know for over twenty years. I kept all my emotions deeply buried inside because they thought it was a sign of weakness to ask for help and now I know it's a sign of strength to ask for help and the response we've gotten from the book Is is shown that that people can relate to that and there are resources in the book to let people know that. Ptsd doesn't just come from From war it comes from any life threatening trauma and it's a natural response to the To trauma and there is a help available and I thought all along when when you when I first started talking about this and you mentioned that you wanted to write a book I thought boy year are in a perfect position to connect with people because of your work. And the fact that Fenway Park is so recognizable and because baseball that people can relate to you. You know through those through those avenues. Is that the what you've experienced? It really has You know the first. Espn e sixty piece that we did with you Literally the very next day The Red Sox Was We're in town and a visiting player? I walked out of my office and my office is right across the concourse from visiting clubhouse and a player from the visiting team was coming in from the team bus and stopped me and said David You know my teammates and I saw the piece last night and I wanted to stop you until you Thank you for having the courage to share your story Because of you sharing your story you know Many of my teammates and I realize that it's not a sign of weakness to ask for help and many of us are going to see our team. psychologists also and realize. It's a sign of strength to ask for help. If you can do it we can do it. That's really great and I see all the time when I'm out on the field that players will stop by and they'll say hi to us they walk by and I'm curious about in in your time in your position. A story about a player that you connected with Players you see and it makes the point coming in saying hi you know. I've been very blessed this. This'll be my gosh thirty. Sixth Year in the majors and I've been really fortunate to you know some great players through the years. You know it not only guys it have great stats through the years. Just you know. Great People From Robin Yount to require Selo Just people And all all stages of their career just been really fortunate to Make some friendships with guys that I say they all put on their pants the same way we do have life outside of baseball. I've been fortunate to Make connections with guys and and You know stay in touch with them. A lot of Will Stop over the office to see Drago Lance mccullers a lot of times. We'll stop over to say hi to Drago You know made friends that way. Too and and If you can exist explain for listeners. Who Drago is and when when you met. Drago. Yeah I'm sorry Chocolate was my service dog. Drago came into my life May Ninth Two thousand fourteen Geragos my service dog. He helps me with post traumatic stress. as well as mobility and he goes everywhere with me Other right now during covert he stays at home I go out of the House but he He's trained not to go to the bathroom on grass and so he goes everywhere on field with me and He is just absolutely other than my wife. My Best Best friend and He's on the field with me. A lot of the players will stop over to to say hello. Get to know them and He's really been an important part of my life. I'm pretty sure that he he's a German shepherd right. We had German shepherds and I'm assuming that's what he is he is. I'm sorry. Yeah he's a German Shepherd. He's he's seven and a half years old and he has literally he's changed my life he. He's an important part of my life and You know there's another DSP and feature called David Drago that. If you're interested you can find a lot more information on how he's touched my life. Yeah and he is is a great personality and I see players come over and and pat him all the time I I'm guessing. Also a lot of your connections with folks on the field through the years have been through the weather You know with a storm front coming in that. Sort of thing I if you had any stories about managers or empires you've got to know a little bit Through three work in that regard. Yeah some of my best friends are umpires. Who I've gotten to through the years and you know one of the first things I look at in the morning other in my wife and Drago is whether and letting the last things I've Work Look at is whether we have some great Forecasters so really get to to work with weather. Shout out to all my co workers who've helped make connections with that and Different people you know through the years really are into whether remember Joe Kerrigan. Pitching coach was into whether I've heard my Mike. Trout is into whether they'd never talked to him yet about that and You know it's interesting. David price was always interested in whether APPs but You know speaking of weather. I remember this morning. I saw on twitter Mlb CATHEDRALS. They talked about They had a picture of a a flood at county stadium on June. Twenty First Nineteen Ninety. Seven in which county stadium Flooded in which. I think we got over four inches of rain that night overnight in which you know forecast was for thunderstorm so he put the tarp on overnight but the rain did what was called training where it just kept raining over Same Line of Pathan has a travel over Milwaukee in which it just didn't stop and so the water kept rising and rising and County stadium was kind of in a low spot came in from the parking lots and just flooded the park but do the hard work of the crew. But we're the water drained away and well that days game was rained out. We're able to get the field ready for the next day and once again it was just a lot of teamwork and That was a fun experience and funded part of how in that situation. How long did it take you to get the feel ready? I had a game on a Sunday in Wrigley Field last year. And I can't remember the circumstances but they basically had to play and so for two days. The brewers in the cubs essentially played a steady rain. And I remember talking with the grounds crew there about how many how many tons of material that they put on the field they literally replace the Infield overnight in terms of material that went in there. So in that situation. When you guys had that Milwaukee New York and how many hours did that require and the amount of labor involved? There's a lot of labor. Fortunately the there was a field ahead of crown to it so the high part of the field was infield skin so the infield skin state pretty much dry but the outfield and home plate were soaked. We actually brought in a helicopter from. I believe it was local channel. Four and as long as they were not having a covered. Emergency around the city We had a groundskeeper in the helicopter. Cab with the radio and they flew over different parts the field We would communicate with on different parts that were wetter than others. They literally hovered over the field. Six to eight hours kind of like a big hairdryer. Downdraft Helicopter was I think. One hundred forty eight hundred fifty miles an hour and We helped you know. Blow dry the field and There was just a lot of teamwork to get it ready. You know while some other rain games you know here the old field. When I came to Fenway Park did not drain. Well the most antiquated field In baseball at that time the last major renovation. When I came to fenway in two thousand one last major renovation to the field is nineteen thirty four it did not have subsurface language so when it would rain hard being on landfill water would be waked up from the bottom as well as water. The top would not drain away so we would often put ten tons of drying agent on top of the grass. And then the next day take backpack blowers Blow a lot of that Drying agent off and save it for Future Day and So it was a lot of challenges with the old field ownership invested in a new field that was put a modern field that was put in after the Oh four world series and so fortunately feel does drained a lot certainly a lot lot certainly a lot of teamwork keeping field zone going with Mother Nature. Well and you told me. A story wants about how The the with the old field that the drainage a backup so much that they would be fish near second base at Fenway Park. You know that is that is a great story and I started At Fenway I sat down with Mr Joe Mooney who was groundskeeper at Fenway. For thirty years and One of the first days we sat down we were talking about how ballparks were similar and different and Joe Said David when it really rains hard but dugout for flood because of the Infield crown and he said Okay Mister Mooney you know. I've seen dugouts flood before you said it's a really really rains. Hard water from the street outside the park will back up from thunderstorm. Come Underneath a city drain and the manhole cover and the concourse will flood the whole Third Base Concourse. We'll fill up with water and I said that a lot of water. He says it really really really rains hard. The first base camera pit or backup with water. From the city streets infill all the way to the top with water and the fish from Charles River which is about a mile away. We'll swim through the city. Drainpipes and swim out on. The field was in January of two thousand one. So I stop Mr Looney was pulling my leg and I went home and told My wife you won't believe the stories that Moody tells well fast for that year. In April we opened early April on a Monday and on Friday night. We were supposed to get a couple inches of rain so we put a tarp on Friday before opening day and sure enough. We got close to three inches overnight Saturday morning when it stopped raining I went out to the edge of the tar early morning around seven and sure enough. We had close to three inches of rain. I walked behind home plate on the warning track. Got Near the first base dugout and there was a fish about five six inches long. Oh my Gosh Mister Mooney. Set me up for a joke. Three months ago so I looked up in the upper deck and yelled his name and I couldn't find him anywhere and walked over to the camera. Pit and sure enough. It was full to the top with water and I looked between the camera pit in the second base position. There were seven more fish on top of the tarp. Absolutely true story I. I wish I would've dry mounted a fish for my office for his office for ownership but the sun came out in the Russia getting ready for opening day through the fish way but luckily I took a picture of the fish and it hangs in my office. Fenway Oh that's awesome. I was GonNa say you know like the Boston Globe? Absolutely love that pictures of fish on the field at Fenway Park Oh yeah absolutely. Now you've given you and I have You give me the tour of Fenway Park in different parts of it. I've been lucky enough through my work to go For example inside the Green Monster in left field of curious. In your time being at the park Is there been like a person. You've enjoyed Giving tour to celebrity. I'm sure that through the years. Some people who work in politicians are in politics might have done that or maybe some former players Because Fenway Park is such a unique place. I've had the honor to meet a lot of Incredible people and and veterans and people you know from the Jimmy Fund really Very humbled to beat a lot of people and I my first year. There was a gentleman in the stands That I got called over to meet and his name was David. Cheer and Turned out he had climbed Mount Everest at that time for different times and they Someone asked me if I could walk him out to the field. He was a huge red sox. Fan and so I walked out to the field and and that they were working on the pitcher's mound I said. Would you like to stand up on the PITCHER's mound and get a picture and he got to the edge of the mountain and took a deep breath and and he says you know? I have chills running through me says I have more emotions running through me to climb up that ten inch mound then I ever had climbing up Everest and I just literally I mean I kinda gives me chills right now just think how special you know Fenway Park Mound is no I dream was always to stand on Fenway Park bounded. I get chills. Every day. I walked down the field and and just to think you know you know somebody who's climbing Everest five times now You know has that. Kind of feeling for fenway really Put things in perspective again for special is yeah and soon as you said his name. I was thinking that you're talking about the climber who is in the book into Thin Air. In part of that movie in the that was shot. That's incredible exactly exactly. You know just always remember that day when John Wayne came here and and I don't know if he remembers saying that. It struck a chord with me. And and I've I've met some incredible. I say wounded warriors and veterans and and and incredible children from the Jimmy Fund. And and you know like you say politicians and athletes and just Some wonderful people who help pre game and I just happen to remember that quote That you offend way has an aura to it and you know you say I get chills every day or walk on field and always remember that that quote now you got into this in part because you love baseball and I was thinking about this today. That In two thousand four. When the Red Sox had that incredible comeback to beat the Yankees they finished that series on the road When they won the world series that year they finished world series on the road in Saint. Louis in two thousand. Seven You know they weren't you know they finish that on the road if I remember correctly in two thousand thirteen though they wrapped up the world series at home. So I'm wondering what you remember from that moment in where you were because your office is down inside Fenway Park and you wouldn't necessarily be at the edge of the field. But in that moment when they wrapped up the world series in fenway. We're worried what he remember you. I remember coming out of the Dugout And it was just magical and You know we had to set up The infield to get The MVP truck on the field and For that celebration you know with the crew on the ground crew hustled out and set that up and then shortly after that was set up My daughter and wife We're able to make it down to the edge of the field and security them out there and So that was really special to have my wife and daughter be able to celebrate on the field with me. That's awesome before you go. I wanted to ask you and I I again thought about this morning in this spring because I have nothing else to do. I've decided I'm going to make the best lawn in Westchester County New York so every morning. I'm out at dawn. Fighting Dandelions and as they prepared myself to ask you this question like Oh my God. He probably has so many people asking him so many questions about lawn care all the time. It's like a Doctor. Being asked for advice on handle a headache or something like that before you answer the questions about Dandelions. How often do people asking you questions like that about their lawn? Oh that's fun. A lot of people ask me questions about about I care and lawns and you know that. That's fun part of the job and you know you ask them about daddy lions. I'll tell you a funny story you know when I was in college I couldn't wait to get my first home lawn. You know I dreamed of I was. I was dating my wife and could we had plans to get married and and I couldn't wait to get my first home. Lawn wanted should be like a pool table with not a weed and site and then when we got our salon we had our two daughters and and they taught me through. There is how they would pick They would find dandelions on the side of the yard and picked these bouquets of Dandelions and they just thought these dandelions were beautiful with these curly stemmons and all the flour and when the dandelions would go to seed and be that big puffy ball they would They call them blow flowers and they would chase each other and they would make a wish and then they would blow the seed heads all over the yard on Giggle and run around and if we could find clover we would sit for. It seemed like hours looking for four leaf clovers and making necklaces out of the flowers and the stems and I quickly realized if they were happy I was happy and my my war on. Weeds was over the literally. My favorite flower right now and ever since has been dandy line in fact. I posted a picture on my instagram account Just the other day of Dandelion and so when I see a dandy lion now makes me smile It Brings Back Wonderful Memories. And you know like life Lawns are all about tolerance. You know it doesn't have to be the the lawn sign in Your Yard. Keep off my grass. Lawns are all about creating memories you know and you know it's about having a healthy actively growing on invest in quality grass seed. You know you get what you pay for. You know investing quality grassy. Now's a great time to change the oil in your lawnmower. Sharpen your mower blades. In fact get a second set of mower blades and once a month. Change Your mower blades. You know we sharp on our plates Regularly and check blades every day. We Mow Because you know we have a clean field it at home. You're hitting Sticks and ACORNS and walnuts and dog toys and those Dang up your blades and make your not sharp so you think of cutting your hair or shaving. What the DOLL BLADE. That you know is not good for your hair let alone your grass so if you cut your grass with a dull blade today it may look green when you mow but tomorrow. Look Brown because all those crafts blades are going to be shredded and those ends dry up and they do two things that don't try your grass out quicker and those sores on the grass. Open it up for a disease and GonNa be injured injuries to your grass And then now's a great time to do a soil test on your on your soil and that's easy to you can contact your county extension agent and do a soil test and that'll tell you the percents sand silt clay in your soil and also a nutrient analysis And you can use that as a base and they'll give you recommendations on what you need for for fertilizer. Never think a little bit good. A lot must be better with whatever fertilizer use whether it's organic or synthetic and never think you know I have a half a bag leftover. I'M GONNA go ahead and use it on my lawn or I'm gonNA throw it in the trash and always be respectful that you're not spreading someone your driveway and leaving it there to wash down you're down into the street or into the gutter. No follow the label on whatever back product you're using the labels the law so be respectful there The spring is a good time to Core Air Rate Now it's still pretty chilly. It's been chilly spring. Certainly in the northeast You can see in the spring. The best time to oversee the ball because the soil is warm The Fall Frost. You know September. The northeast is a good time if all frost will take care of weeds but you can certainly see now Coming up in and when it warms up just a little bit but once again Follow the label on whatever fertilizers. You're using You have lots of options on on weed control you can mechanically take it out You could use corn gluten for An organic crabgrass control. Or you know when it comes to clover and Day No end. You could leave it. You could Spot spray you don't have to go out and broadcast something on your whole lawn But you know it's it's it's certainly wants against about tolerance and you know thinking about the environment when you care for your lawn guilty about my war on Dan now after hearing your story too but I my memory for my son. Now About Dandelions. You're going to be about sending them out to gather a hundred every day. That's his assignment boy. I always love talking with you. I always learn something David. I appreciate your time. Well I sure appreciate all your support in health book. One day at a time can be of support to people going through these challenges with bleacher tweets already buster bleacher tweets four. Wednesday quick one here Adam Smith at Schnittke F. A. Rates in first of all love the conversation with Bob Kendrick enjoy hearing about baseball museums and there was great. He was incredible and he wants. No I guess it really unrelated to this. Could you tell us the story of how slush y you became a vikings fan? Yeah when I was a kid I got my first football cards like baseball cards and One of the cards was gene. Washington who is a wide receiver for the Vikings at that time and I just like the logo. I thought the logo is cool and it probably didn't hurt that at that time. That team was pretty good. The the Purple People Eaters Alan page. Carl eller Jim Marshall and they were successful. I caught because of course now. They played in four super bowls and they've been beaten every time. But I love the logo and I am a crazy biking span love kirk cousins last one today and really just a comment here. Tim Rates in. Hey Buster the fisker hs four claw. We'd Wieder is the best purchase I've ever made for lawn care. I love the pod lot. Thanks a lot of Daniel and Tim after I saw your bleacher tweet one online. I watch youtube and how that works and all I can say is for all my neighbors and family members. They'll be getting a present courtesy of you. I've ordered a lot of the foreclosure leader including one for my son. I'm trying to figure out how to put a titans logo on one to make him really like it. That is in for Bleacher tweets for today and just a heads up you know. We're we're R lean times. We don't have a ton to talk about so bleacher. Twitter's now's the time to get your questions in. I mean we're talking weeds and Vikings today so so ask whatever you will probably making the pot all right. Thanks for listening today. Have a great day and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball. Don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus. Podcast CHECK OUT ALL PODCASTS AT ESPN DOT COM. Slash pod separate baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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Presidential Name-Drops, Ian Desmond Opts out

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Presidential Name-Drops, Ian Desmond Opts out

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight podcast or Tuesday June thirtieth two thousand, twenty, producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut is Taylor Schwenk Buster only working from my home studio in New York teams are physcially set to open for players reporting on Wednesday, but some veterans hip, or opted out with more expected as we move forward the nationals Ryan. Zimmerman enjoy Ross the diamondbacks. Mike leake all opted out Zimmerman walking away from about seven hundred and fifty thousand Mike Leake, who's thirty two years old member of the diamondbacks walked away from. From about five million dollars and late on Monday night? The rockies and desmond opted out in a long instagram posts that I encourage everyone to read at the any cited it four kids, and Chelsea his wife, who was pregnant, but he also had a lot of observations about race in Major, League Baseball. They're going to be talking about coming up with Tim Kirch in the Blue Jays are close to receiving approval to play in Toronto, according to Ontario's premier. It's a really complicated situation because the federal standard is anybody coming into the country needs to self quarantine. For fourteen days, and obviously for a baseball team for players going into Canada or visiting team's going to Cana- Canada they're gonNA need special dispensation for now. The Blue Jays are gathering players in Dunedin Florida. Where of course in that state? They've had a lot of hot spots lately of the corona virus. San Francisco giants prospect. Hunter Bishop tested positive for the coronavirus. That's what the giants told reporters yesterday, and if baseball happens, the mets are hopeful that UN assessment is can contribute as designated Hitter Brody bandwagon in the mets, general manager talk yesterday about the progress that cesspits is made as he comes back from basically a two year layoff. 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This is the hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues in honor of the Negro Leagues Major League Baseball a lot of folks under the umbrella, and outside the umbrella, gave a tip the cap to the Negro Leagues, this real starts with Hank Aaron Derek Jeter, and along the way you're GonNa hear the voices of three presidents give us. Got My start in the Negro. and. I will be forever evergreen. Thank you, congratulations. Floreal Derek Jeeter. Truly appreciate where you are must have a four understand who working before. So I just want to say thanks to my capped. Year anniversary, I Magic Johnson and I'm ticket Marquette. The outstanding players of the Negro National League today. To the my hat. Everybody will be released. But to sexually long legacy talented spirit dignity. Wanted, my cats. My Cat. Thank you guys. Great, cry, I took my cat to the courageous players of the Negro Leagues. Tap to you for that. I WanNa tip, the hat or my favorite baseball team the Texas Rangers. To our one hundred years of the new. Took my cat meagerly happy one hundred years. The, didn't they believed? Piece? I did my tap on this the one hundredth anniversary of the Negro Leagues. I don't just tip I doubt it to the Negro Leagues Eagerly Agency Hi. Stephen Colbert on the centenary of the League. Just WanNa tip my hat three. PERSPECT-! So I've. The. Hundred Years of the Negro League celebration. NICCOLO De. I wouldn't be in this position for you. Baseball better. I. Tip my hat to you. Place. I like to congratulate the Negro Leagues on their hundred year anniversary. Thank you. Tip My. disliked. The tip my hat to the Negro Leagues Hundred Year Anniversary. We all stand on your shoulders. So? Here's my tip to the one hundred anniversary of the Negro League I. Think a simple tip of the hat says it all want to tip my hat back to the. So tip my cap, and I said thank you I wanna tip my cat to the hundred anniversary of the Negro Leagues. Thank you and tip the CAP I. Join me tipping my cap to the one hundred anniversary of Negro League Baseball. I want to tip my hat and my cap. On the one hundredth anniversary of the beginning of the Negro Leagues and I will always love and respect everyone that played in the Negro. Leagues gave me the author doing anything. Again game. Thank you. I'm sitting in my capsule in the League. Happy one hundred years for you guys to another one hundred years. And took my cap one hundred anniversary of the Negro Leagues Negro the one hundred year anniversary of Tippett Mike. I'm keeping my cat the meagerly. One hundred year anniversary this once they thanked him. Hit my hat. All, of us at Major League baseball, tip, our caps to you. Vow To ensure that your stories come to life for the next generation. SEAM. Heads rejoice not markets timmy time. That's great game or what with Tin Kurkin on baseball tonight tip Jen covers baseball for ESPN and Tim first off how you Don. L. I'm still healthy buster. Which I think is the most important thing for all of us, so let's socal uniform house. Yep One hundred percent yesterday. You know how difficult day because we're getting word about players who are going to opt out of playing this year. If in fact there is baseball but before we get to that the coolest thing without a doubt was the tip of the cap that was going on all around baseball around the the country to the Negro. Leagues in its hundredth anniversary and I. Don't know about you, but you know it's always cool to see Hank Aaron and it's always you know cool to see folks like Derek Jeter, but when you got three presidents jumping in it tipping their cab. That's especially cool. Right and that is so cool. You know during the CAL ripken streak President, Clinton came to the Ballpark a couple of times, and it was really neat how he engage with ripken and Brady Anderson ripken's best friend or all that they had a couple of good chuckles together he. The president really enjoyed that President Obama. Of course loves to throw out the first ball. I went to the White House. Sorry dropping game and I saw him welcome the cubs, the championship cubs, which was a very cool thing. He is so presidential and three different times I went to the White House when George W Bush. Bush was the president and one of the time we went up to the private residence, and an intern took us all around showing things with the delightful Mrs Bush. And what are the insurance at this room right here? This is where he watches baseball. We kind of challenge. Have you said no? No, he only watches baseball in this room. And then we had this intimate dinner for seventeen with President Bush and he told us a whole bunch of baseball stories that none of us had ever heard because he used to own the Rangers. Had his own baseball stories to tell and it was it was priceless, and and I have met many president, but I can tell you George W. Bush loves the game legitimate. So. How many times have you been to the White House? Let's review this again. How many times we invited to go to the White House Tim. You, asked me to tell the story I had to tell the story five times, and it was really cool each time so quickly George W. we asked him to tell the jeeter story again at President Bush has thrown out the first ball. Two Thousand One world series game three at home against the diamondbacks nine was only a month earlier so and. Tutor tells him like. Hey, you know you better get loose. Corey, go out there and he said I. Don't grow from the top of the mound. Whatever you do just throw for the front of the dirt and he said we're ever. Don't bounce it. This is bizarre. They'll booze you here. So the President Got Loose Unto Stadium, Walk to the top of the mountain, remember Buster Heathrow an athletic strike to the plate is one of the great moments ever, and he retold that story that night at the White House. It was really cool. Green was the catcher of that night very cool five times invited to the white. House uh-huh. I've been there. Wine I bought a ticket. I bought a take one time I went. Right now, let the understand. Let's understand of course George. W Bush own the Rangers. When I covered the rangers, he was around a ballpark all the time. I knew him as the Rangers owner, not the governor, not as the President I got to know him when he owned a baseball team. That was my connection. Till you! You grew up in that area. How many times are you been invited to the White House? I went to the White House one time it was on kind of special pass. My grandmother worked for Jeb Bush for a long time, so not quite an invite, but maybe a rung above that so tim, we can hang together. No big deal man I'm kinda starting to wonder what mailing list I'm on. That doesn't get me inviting to the windows. I would say this. You know just all kidding. Aside I remember one time when I was covering the mets Bill Clinton, who was actually Jackie Robinson Day nineteen, ninety-seven, covering the mets for the The New York, times and President Clinton came into the into the clubhouse and know all the players responded to him. You mentioned President Bush Tim. Jealous like I'd love to talk baseball with him, and especially about his dad, who you know played at Yale. Tim, I can't tell you that president. Obama's especially good at throwing out the first pitch based on what I've seen. No. He's not at what we did. The game in Cuba Eduardo Perez of course who is with us and we inter the president of the United States during became and it. Says President something effective. Very, good throwing are by the way your first ball effort articulate good. Right to the president and President Oh Bob, a look at Wierdo, and said look. I'm sorry. My father is not a hall of Fame Baseball Player like yours. I Apologize Not as good as you. It was it was a priceless back and forth, and only at Wardha would say something like that kidding, of course to the. President Oh, before we go is just GonNa Mention Bob Kendrick who of course, the President of the Negro Leagues Museum in Kansas City I think you'd agree with me. He's building a heck of a resume to be honored at the hall of Fame Someday based on everything that he's done and if he were to be Honored Hall of fame, probably would be with the Buck O'Neil award. Absolutely the job he has done with Ziam and with eagerly baseball is so so impressive, and if anyone never been there before, you really got to check that place out, it is terrific. All right so yesterday we get the first round of names of players opting out I don't think there's any question. We're GONNA hear more names Minnesota twins also benched. to their coaches basically informed them that they're not going to be allowed to participate. Ryan Zimmerman Tim had signalled the possibility that he would opt out when he wrote a piece diary for the Associated Press the other day Mike Leaked Joe, Ross, in Desmond. Those names are coming out. What was going through your mind? Well the first thing that went through my mind with the first three guys came out I, said all right. This is going to be an avalanche now. Players once somebody is done it a bunch, and I mean a bunch more going to follow. But as soon as I saw the two or three come out, I started checking around and a lot of people said no. No, no, that's that's not. Not GonNa Happen, it's GONNA be, they're going to be more of course, but this is gonNA start a tidal wave of players saying I. Don't WanNa play in Ryan. Zimmerman case we know this buster. He's one of the great leaders in the game. He's one of the great good guys in the game and given his family situation three week. Old Son is mother with multiple sclerosis and he's. He's extremely close with his mom. That really didn't surprise me, but it's really important to know just how Quality Guy Ryan Zimmerman is maybe more will look at him and say well. Someone of that character decides baby on next, and he's good of course when Ian Desmond, who has similar home situation for children, so I think more are coming. I'd thought that would be an even bigger title. Title I. Think is a good sign I think. Do you think that they're the peer pressure? The situation is going to be a factor in other words. Some players feel like you know I. I have to play for my teammates. I gotTa tell you. I'm not convinced that there's a lot of that going on I. think that players are going to be respected for whatever decisions that they make. Yeah I miss. Read this buster I just thought. Factor the competition factor that the guys factor. The clubhouse factor would trump everything. Okay, we're all in this together. We're GONNA. Get through this together. Team and teammates is all that matters I'm this read that I? Think we're GONNA. See players say I love my team. I loved compete, but I've got more important things here, so that's why I think we're going. Going to see some more players and I I obviously. I have no issue with any player who picks his family situation. The health of his family over baseball I. Just didn't see it happening this quickly. I thought once we got to spring training July the first. Let's say guys looked around whether safe enough and they said I'm going home for four guys. All them promising in their own way to say no, I. Think might be a sign of some things to calm. I get the feeling yesterday talking with people around the game that everybody's Kinda holding their breath. Right at this moment and they're waiting to see what the test results are going to be. Because of course is players travel and they rejoin their teams They have to be tested and I think there's a great curiosity about what those numbers are going to reveal. Tim especially because these hot spots that we've seen in recent days are all so important to baseball, Florida and Texas in Arizona and California some trepidation is what I'm sensing from folks at the team level. Right I mean we're talking over. A third of the teams are affected by the states that have really had a spike here very recently so again. What are we GONNA do with those teams? What are we gonNA do with those states what happens if a team has a real issue with all this and more than one player, ten or twelve players? What do we do then? This is why I don't you sleep? They can't release any schedule information until they can see exactly. What spots are the hot spots? And when it's California Texas and Florida those are not good places that have hotspot. If you're a major league organization, and that's the tricky part now. One thing. I mentioned on the podcast Monday I. Wanted to get your perspective on this. I'm hearing a lot from the players side from players from some agents. They WanNa make sure that when these results are discovered. In. The results are sent to Major League baseball teams. There's absolute transparency There are players who they think that Major League Baseball owes it to the players and the staffers to give them the exact context that they're. They're radically participating in. Whatever those numbers are whether they're better than expected whether they're worse-than-expected or whether they're as expected. Those numbers need to be out there, I. Know. Some of the teams who told me that there was pushback from Major League Baseball about releasing specific information because of hip rules, but under the current context him. They have to be one hundred percent transparent I think. There's no doubt transparency buster has been a real buzzword last year's all over the country and especially and also in baseball, of course, but it transparency is more important now than ever these players and everyone else around these organizations needs exactly what is going on. There could be no hiding anything at this point the players if they're gonNA, go out and play in the people around the ballpark are going to work. Everyone needs to know. What rules are? Where everybody is so I don't think there's any doubt transparency is critical right now. Especially for the players all right, let's talk about what he and Desmond Road in his instagram post because the news that he's not gonNA participate was only at the very end of a nine page instagram post first off. And I knowing desmond but I'd like you based on your experience is someone who lives in the Washington area to know him when he was with the nationals. Tell me about any desmond the type of person that he is. Well. He's a great dude. There's no way around that and I had a veteran player on the baseball and say this was a couple years ago and you know why. The nationals haven't figured this out. They lost the Desmond and Desmond last. That's how much of a character guy this. This current player thought in Desmond meant. To the nationals in the clubhouse and a very good player, although the numbers are going down, but I also know him very well as a father as a husband, and he's got a slightly different look at these things, and each just basically said look, this is for my kids. I, gotta be their father I gotTA show. What's going on here? So he left a lot of money on the table, and I'm not shocked that he did that because knowing him the way that I you. You. That's kind of the that. He's built and Ryan Zimmerman. Kinda taught him the way so I don't think it's a complete coincidence. That Zimmerman goes home, and in Desmond follows yet to not play. This year is GonNa cost the desmond something in the range of five to six million dollars. If in fact, they're able to play I've you know since he got to the Big Leagues? He has absolutely used his platform to help people. His charity work is unbelievable and I have friends. Mutual friends with him that he doesn't know that were mutual friends and the stories that I hear about eating, and how he's extended himself throughout his major league career are incredible like this is someone who really cares about other people and I. think that context is important they to to set up what he wrote a part of what he wrote about all This is one of the quotes that is certainly getting a lot of attention today. He wrote that in club houses. We've got racist sexist. Homophobic jokes are flat out problems. We've got a minority issue from the top down one African American GM to African American managers less than eight percent. Black players know black majority team owners. Heat spoke specifically about the access to baseball Tim, four kids who are minorities. and. I gotTa tell you. That absolutely reflects conversations I've had with people in the game recently about how they feel like especially this year with the drafting cut to five rounds with minor league affiliations going down, that baseball is losing by through those decisions, the ability to connect with minorities because baseball in the United States and Canada is sport generally played by class kids in a lower Upper class kids as described to me? You've got a lot of country club. Kids who are playing baseball now and being able to do that because it costs a lot of money to travel. Right and sometimes buster as we know, you're really gonNA make a point. You have to be very dramatic about it and do something that really gathers attention and for him to give up almost six million dollars to not play this year, and used his platform to say no I'm not playing because of my children and health and everything else, but making a clear of his protest of things that are going on within the game that people really listen you give up six million dollars like he'd and not play a game that he loves to play and play for a team for which he loves to play, so this is a very powerful statement from the. Again and not a giant surprise here Theo Epstein. The head of baseball ops to the cubs recently spoke with reporters and paraphrasing area, basically said that he has to re examine what he's done. And he said you know I look at the a lot of the people who I've hired, and they look a lot like May and I think a lot of that examination. Tim is going on in the game and has really. Gathered momentum since George Boyd was killed, and I would not at all be surprised as we move forward that there is a greater effort and then folks like Ian Desmond are part of that. Right well, obviously, there should be a greater effort. We all know that the number of African American players is down significantly from say the mid seventies, and that needs to go back up, but like Ian Basma saying and like feo Epstein is saying can't just be the players. It has to be people who worked for the club front. Office people owners people like that. That's what needs to happen. If real change is going to happen, and when a future hall of Famer says something like that as an executive, Theo Epstein and again a really good player in Desma does that's when people really started to take notice, and obviously it's about time. I don't think there's any question that part of the reason why the numbers of African American players started to go down in baseball. Is that baseball like a lot of businesses began to look at at cost efficiency, and so they began to invest in a in a Kademi. Dominican Republic because quite simply they get more volume of players, potential talent for less cost. And it's why you've seen baseball. In the last thirty years. Really Begin to shift a lot of its dollars. In developing minor leaguers to countries like the Dominican Republic because they can get them. At a cheaper cost in part of the conversation, I've been having with front office executives in the last Couple weeks has been about ways to foster more inclusion in bed in four baseball in the United States in Canada and some of the ideas I've heard. That and some individual teams already do this for example. The Yankees do with the Red Sox have a team The royals work with some teams, but you'd almost like like a sub league where you know the thirty Major League, teams within their communities develop their version of AAU teams and pick up the cost of travel. which prevents a lot of players from playing? I also think scholarships potentially some funding Ju Co level. Maybe some scholarship you know for Division One because the feeling among a lot of front office officials is that with just eleven point seven scholarships available to each of the division, one programs that inevitably they're going to be players who say well I can get a full ride playing college, football or I can take a partial scholarship playing baseball in struggled to find the rest of the money and so I think there's a lot of brainstorming going on right now about how to make baseball more accessible. What are some of the ideas that you've heard that you like? Well bustard needs to go back. You know way earlier than collegiate days. Even though everything you said is right on target there, but I have a friend who coaches A. Until this year coach, they travel team of twelve year olds and he told me it caused each kid. Roughly ten thousand dollars year play on the travel team. And he said, and that doesn't count. The travel for mom and dad go see all the games to me. That's where one of the biggest problems you talk about country club kids. Many families can afford ten thousand dollars for a twelve year old to play baseball and then add. Goodness knows how much on top of that, so mom and dad can traveled all those game stay in hotels and everything else. That's a real problem, and I know baseball is understanding of it and looking into it, but to me. It's gotTa Start Before Scholarships in College. It's gotTa Start With our Little League program. And hopefully that conversation that's been redoubled. This year will lead to change because I agreed in Desmond, one hundred percent there needs to be changed in this regard. And it needs to carry all the way through front offices all right Tim Cross. Our fingers were hoping this all works out. Yeah let's hope so bust. Your let's hope July. Twenty third is opening day. Let's keep our fingers crossed. I worry but Let's keep keep a positive attitude here now before we get to Tim and his baseball minute reminder that you should check out the latest episode of the Hoop collective ten years