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Hour 2: Curvature

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

35:30 min | 3 months ago

Hour 2: Curvature

"This is the dan lebatardshow. With this. to spot cass. Just read the most pretentious article about people wearing midriff. Tops in new york city in how street wear has become more revealing. Just a guy pearl clutching. It was an old man who's is unnerved by exposed skin. A man whose name is literally guy. Oh an article. Let me just read prices. It's pronounced it says. As recently as a decade ago it was a rarity to spot people on fifth avenue in washington square park riding the subway or milling about at airports in various states of advanced dish apple says dish hobble dish. Shambles dish habile. I don't even know how to say this word says anyone who's taken a stroll in new york lately can tell you that's not true anymore. People in other words are running around half naked. God lease shabbily is the state of being. Only partly or scantily clothed. What do you do if you went to south beach for a day. Yeah be mortified bra. Lots itty bitty bandeaus in crocheted bikinis are everywhere so to are daisy. Dukes cut high enough to expose buttocks curvature and these items are by no means relegated to people who identify with the pronouns. She and her. What is that supposed going on right. Now what are you reading. What was that. It's a new york times article by a year. What year is that from like literally today. July twenty second twenty twenty one is not limited to your her buttocks furniture. That's something i never thought i'd here. But ox curvature was at times today it's like basically this guy just criticizing how street wear has gotten more revealing and this never happened in my day. You should do back in my day about that. Greg didn't daisy dukes. Come out like nineteen eighty something. What are we talking. Yeah maybe new york city maybe earlier. Not i mean i'm out here. Learn five inch seems like seems tony. Yes i'm so happy that we're not all wearing knee length shorts anymore. I have like one pair of shorts. That are knee length. That are in the back of my closet that i don't wear flame. You were yours higher. Oh very high very high. Na dog yeah no very high bench roy. Count count five inches. Whatever that would be. And that's where the shorts are so from your hip five inches length. Yeah oh it's it's amazing makes me so much more free i just wouldn't do it. that's fine. But i feel like roy. You're not the type of person to write an article criticizing other people for doing it. Also tonight i don't care. No which is what this guy is doing. That's a great question. i'll i'll read. I'll read the kicker seen in that light underwear on fifth avenue was probably always logical. End point in a progressive blurring of distinctions between public and private or so. I imagined until an afternoon last week. When glancing up from my harvest bullets sweet green. I spotted through the window. A young woman casually crossing astra plays wearing a pair of cutoffs some sandals and it was fully legal to do this naked above the waist. He basically wrote an entire article. About how like. Suddenly people are wearing more revealing clothing just to be like. Hey i saw a naked lady. Last week they just write an article about the naked lady. Because that's kind of interesting but it's new york city right like don't you see weird shit all the time. Yeah weird people all over the place doing weird things i. Why would you write about something. Just kinda normal. I feel like he specifically mentioned fifth avenue for a reason. He's probably like protecting almost like a classism about what that is. Isn't it yes. Fifth avenue is like the wealthy shopping district in new york. That's where all the flagship stores are for saks. And all the fancy stores but it's also like dude it's july. There's been three heatwaves already this summer like it has been in the hundreds here for the first time in decades. What people wear a bikini top on the subway if they want like the subways aren't even frigging air-conditioned. Who approved this as an article. It makes no sense to me. I mean it does. It does reflect the sensibility right like there are many millions of americans who find exposed skin to be unnerving right like it is is reflective of some people's way of thinking. You're you're it's because you're a classic new york elite you know who thinks that you know every everyone thinks like you. And you know out mitigate out in middle america you know there's a different sensibility to the one that you have jess. I actually disagree. I think that this is the opposite of that. I think this is him being elitist. Who thinks that you need to wear a petticoat entails to go outside to get your frigging harvest bullets sweet green whereas we live in a selfish bullets sweet green. That's how you you wrote. That's that's why he wrote that was in his his article. Thank you tony. Tony was listening. That's that was in his article that he saw a woman naked from the waist at astra plays. Guess what there's probably fifty women naked from the waist up at astor place every day. It's astor place like you get what you signed up for. But he's not even funny. I live in new york of course only new yorker you sound like a self floridian sometimes cool from nobo- what you're saying is detached from a reality in most places in the country right. Most places in the country would be unnerved. If all of a sudden they started walking around the street and there are people not wearing clothes right. I am saying that that is the only part of this article that is like remotely interesting to me is that this guy saw some naked lady and was like Naked lady. I guess it's not that interesting though because i see naked people all the time in new york but my point is entire ronin. I mean yes like newark. There's just like this is the reality here. Do you believe what are you talking about. From new york miami and think we're all naked all the time. New york's not naked all the time. Do you see people dressed in miami. Have you not been a hollow of beach. Well that's a nude beach. I that doesn't quite greg. Cody has been doing nude have really. How'd that go went pretty. Well actually. did you partake. Here's a thing about a nude beach most of the bodies there. You don't wanna look at there. There are a lot of people my age. They're like big overweight canadians. I mean it's not a pretty sight. I'm telling you. Oh you smearing the canadians. Just use an example. They walking around a flag. You know yeah they do. Give him on how he started. Essence here's a weird thing about a nude beach nudity. Well it is. I mean. I think most people who've never been to a nude beach have a preconception about it. That's totally wrong. You're saying they romantically think that they're gonna see beautiful. People nude pretty much at a nude beach. Wentz not reality. I've actually been to nude beaches one with edwin pope and barcelona nineteen ninety-two cowboy. Not naked jess your new york usa. You slow down marriage and barcelona ninety two. Just slow down because you just said. I went to a nude beach with edwin pope in ninety. Two right god rest his soul. Indeed i would like the audience. Now since we are doing a copy and paste show to simply go go image edwin pope. All i have in my head is the tiny picture that goes when next to his columns. When i was holding the newspaper at the barber shop. That's what i'm imagining just like. A one hundred by one hundred picture like googling edwin pope nude. Please don't do that. please don't do that. I think i think in this. We got in trouble here with howard. Schnell burger and You know and bob greasy. Who didn't like the way that we remembered the memory of edwin pope at marlins park they wanted something More noble less Dirty like cody. And i are. And so we just did it. By cleveland or pool at marlins park and they i think they came in suits. They were and we had an open bars a party. But did they know where they were going to cleveland. Or marlins park. What kind of memorial was that going to be. Well it did not become the memorial. They were thinking it was going to be because they were there to remember the great and graceful edwin pope. But they also didn't know edwin the way. Let greg and i did and so what i remember so there's a lot in that. Oh yeah well this is. This is why. I want you to put all of you. Put it on your screen now so this can be shocking to you. As it was to me as a young reporting edwin. Pope was old the entire time that i knew him. Edwin pope was an old man but he was an old man who drank when he was way from his wife so that one night he drank with cody. I'm pretty sure and drank so much came home. And he fell over drunk in the hotel room and hit his the front of his pack with the corner of the dresser and when he got home and told his wife what happened he said he was coming out of the colts elevator and he had been impaled by a forklift is what he told his wife got very yes because because he was a partier and i want you to now with this image in your head. Imagine me typing cub reporter. This is the top of the profession. I want to get up there. This old guy has been all the entire time. I've known him his grace and class. All the coaches love him. He's an icon and a pioneer in miami and he's typing and he's typing and typing and he just turns to me and he says apropos of nothing. We weren't talking about or anything when i was younger to rattlesnake. If you held its head for me gracing class you said stugotz. Let's minute for my friends. Over a draft king sportsbook draft king. Sportsbook is not only my favorite sports book. 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Um what have you been doing eight as well. So i know yeah now i'm not i haven't been up to you know just Sports i really like watch a lot of stores or binge-watch shows apple. Tv shows are my favorite netflix originals. But the fast and furious series didn't tickle my fans. Even though my fiance is in like a cameo in there i still hold mean just a quick cameo. She's one of the car girls. One of the racing things and So i haven't even seen that that whole movie of that one just to give you guys an idea of like not really watching it but yeah that's a little nugget to drop on. Might be accident stuff in sings and she's a entertainment entertainment yet. There's that and you haven't seen it. I mean i know they'll maybe feel like i know is i'm going to watch it. I'm gonna watch it binge-watch happening do you know. Which one are you trying to get me in trouble are. Y'all usually try to give you trouble. Look i know. She's in the one Where paul walker ended up passing away. She was set with him before he passed away. So it was not a good situation H he's talked about that so that one while you through a real dead fish on our lapeer sitting here we want to talk about the ego. Vin diesel and the rock. And you throw first of all. I need to backtrack for a second. Because jessica and billy billy's behind the mask. And i saw his open mouth because of how delighted they were to learn that your fiance is in these movies. You swept joy swept through this rain. Jessica why why did you react like that. And she can she get us in one of the billy. Get a cameo listen. I mean. she's not the starting back into entertainment. So maybe She went to school and ended up being like a journalism. Major as he's into that type of stuff so she kind of put entertainment to the side but yummy must get it. Poppin back in there was so. That's what i'm seeing. I mean there's a million journalists. There's only nine fast and furious. She always like this overachiever. She's like on a good trajectory that she just wanted to go to school and learn journalists and learn all this stuff. And i'm like oh. I needed overrated. The rock school ever knew anyone exactly. That's what i'm saying. Yeah i want to know whose side you're on here. I want to know who you who you side with. Because these guys have substantive ego and we were talking about with iraq goes on the set. And he's like a bigger star than you are and vin diesels. Like not here. you're not. That's tough. Because i you know i'm probably team the rock just because for personal affiliations on team the rock so i'm gonna roll with the rock and and but the reason i say that is because in sports we had this thing called like a pecking order. If you're an eleven year vet yes that trump's your nine year vet but it's a particular thing because if somebody was drafted to team they were at that team for nine years. Then that's kind of their team even if you come in as the eleven year vet so in the sports analogy of it of because that's how the world works in sports times to me is tough because if you are the you've gotta be respectful of somebody set like we know. Vin diesel is mr fast and furious. He's the main character on. But i just some of the respect your elders type of situation respect your ranking so even if you know i'm wanna team and a vet came to my team in there like this mega superstar. I'm a show some type of hospitality to them. That's just me personally. Like even if i was on the team for nine years straight they came in and they are the ultimate superstar. I just kind of like pay my respect. That's just what i do. I feel like dwayne not paying respect. Vin diesel here. Do you know the rock by the way. He's a person. It sounded like you knew the rock to recently i had to. Danny garcia is the ross ex-wife and they recently invited me outs like the premiere of the washington highs and i couldn't come so i do have affiliations with them so i just omitted. The rog. invites you somewhere. You say. no what's going on. How you so busy book listen. Everybody in my camp was mad at me about it. We really wanted to go. But we couldn't move the schedule around told me a week and a half before and it was in la hollywood. I guess that's how it works in hollywood where they kind of give you a two week warney. But that's hard for me to week warning hard. Let's backtrack for a second. Because i don't think that people maybe they do understand the story but maybe they don't. Because i believe that renee montgomery's world and life has sped up a lot in the last three years. I would imagine if you don't know her story okay. She was an all star in the wnba. The wnba is increasing. In ratings. it's getting more popular. It's hip and it was at the front of the movement that changed america. They got that owner out because that team was so strong it's players were so strong and they changed georgia and they changed the election. They just to humanitarian award and now she is a minority owner of that team. After sitting out a year sitting out a year in embracing the change of america so seriously she doesn't have time for this shit like she has like last like to have a half hour with her as a bit of a treasure. Because the last three years. Rene your life has been turned upside down correct now. I mean it's really accurate in in all honesty is kinda crazy to me like my family when we just went to. Wnba all-star you guys got to remember. It was a pandemic for a year and a half so during the pandemic when we were all in the house. That's when you know my like everything started to rise starts to rise. So i went from when i was in the house. Things were pretty normal. Now that things opened up. Yeah i get interesting invites from people that i wouldn't even know my name like that's just that's just how i'm being honest like when people invite me to some stuff. I'm like oh gosh. I'm still a little bit surprised. So yeah i mean in a good way though. It's great our team just won the the humanitarian of the year award for espn. So that was pretty big for our organization but yet to will smith. My life got flipped upside down in. I'd like to take advantage of civil right there. That's really like it's really happening over here in atlanta's so it's it's exciting. I've been trying to get her to do one of these post game shows with us on When we've been doing with haberstroh enemy and she loves basketball. So i wanna talk to her. About what jaanus just did but She hasn't had time. You gotta you gotta get it in the calendar months in advance right now because the shot somebody like the day before day of x ray realistic. We play things around here get used to. That was notice around here. Rene like that. They couldn't believe we were doing two days of planning. It's my fault. I shouldn't be the one planning it. Yeah i'm not. We're not we're not. We haven't been planners historically who someone that you would break that schedule for the legacy will smith is like. Hey renee can you come out on the yacht or something. Let's just chill. We were working really. Are we gotta relax. All of us bring your fiance. Everyone will be there. Would you say like s array easter right easter. I'd have to. I'd have to cancel some things. If easter race as she's turning up somewhere and she wants me to come through. I'm gonna have the really call my manager paul and be like you're going to hate me but i am not available that day like yeah. I'll s array. I would break the schedules for some isa. Ray yeah. I think she's hilarious. I think that we will be really good friends so yeah i think that we just need to meet and then we're going to it off. That's just my opinion but east rate holler at me if you need me for project at me because i love her whole eat those of what she did with insecure and awkward black girl turning into insecure and how she set her own roles set her own tone for a big network. I'll my girl you better so yeah. Easter egg is all the way on surprise. Obama didn't make that list. I guess you minimum ready. Yeah vet obama place in pig horse with a mom at the white house so i did get to do that. I got obama's baugh his campaign ball. Because i just asked and he said fortune favors the bold and he gave it to me for asking so yeah. Obama is not on the list. East right eatery guys. That's it you beat him in pig. We didn't get to finish because he's obama and we only got to like pi reloaded. Yeah yeah yeah thanks obama. Yeah yeah president. Obama gotta go. He they didn't even want him to play in the first place. Let's be clear they he was like. Yeah y'all guys wanna go. we're like yes. And his people like no we can't and he's like what does playing a couple couple of shots and they're like no. We can't so we went and played just for a little bit. You didn't bury him. You would have buried him in jumpers. He wouldn't have beat you. He's i you know what i don't know where he finds the time because i know we've all seen clips of where he randomly goes to a gym and he's like shooting in making it and we're like what because he makes shots i don't know he must he finds time sometime. Because there's no way he just goes to the court and he's net and like he is so he's practicing on the low i would like to say that because he made didn't beat him you were taking it easy on him though right like you can't go to the white house and beat the president i would. That would have been my claim to fame. I don't know what charlie. I'm not that tight. I'm going to the white house trying to get that dog and then tell everyone that i beat them but we didn't get to finish renee. How often do you just go. Because i don't think people understand what your skill level has to be to reach the professional level that you did. How often will you just go into a local gym pre pandemic and just torch some dudes because you can. I did it. A couple of times celebrity games But i don't really go to the local. Jails because guys they get in their feelings so if you score on a guy at the ymca he's gonna try to do the most cross you up block your shot value to where they could accidentally hurt you. Because they're just doing too much they'd be doing the most guys can't handle that type of situation where they're at a random jim. They're not expecting a pro baller to come in. They handle it. You know even sometimes our practice guys have gotten in trouble for in the wnba. Because they're like all right they their ego comes into a. We're running our plays. We're running through. Somebody makes a shot in their face their ego it gets really bruised and so then they start to go hard so tricky situation. You know guys. It's a different world. When a guy gets gordon a girl renee we can all agree that the worst guy at the gym is a guy that tries way. Too hard undercuts you and fouls you're gonna fast break and he's undercutting your legs fouling hard for no reason diving. That's my one thing. I played a lot of adult rec lease and the guy that dives for the ball at my knees is the worst guy ever. And that's the guy that no one needs to pick up but that's awesome guy that has the mo- swag in the gym. He has the head band. He has the arm sleep jordan. He got the new jay's everything that's that guy and that's the guy that i always try to stay away from but you know that's what i'm saying that guy that you're talking about that guy is all guys a woman's they're like when a woman is in the building every guy turns into that guy. 'cause they don't wanna be the guy that got scored on so yeah. That's the worst. I once unsurprisingly. Got torched by a university of miami women's basketball player when i was at the gym and every guy on i knew because i covered the women's basketball team but every other guy in the gym was getting matt. Peroxy that anger towards her and then she would towards them to your her name. Was morgan stroman. Played at the university of it is so funny that we are frail. Male egos would deny. Deny rene the delight how delightful would it not be for all of us to know that we're going to go into a gym we're going to be underestimated and we're going to clown every person in this building and she's not allowed to do it because we will awkwardly hurt her with our injured pride and our elbows and our knees denied you like you wanna go in there and do that. How fun would that be That'll be great. I only shoot threes. When i play against some little some little pickup games. It's threes only. You can't drive to the basket. Someone will try to tackle you. Take you out at all costs. So it's even fun though that you know you just they guard you at the three point line. You take a step back now. You're shooting from a step behind the three point line. They look at you like shoot it. Yeah i'll give it to you so that you make the first one and they the dare game where they want to dare you to make it again and if you make it again yeah just like that. Yeah are she can't is that it's fun. It's fun dan. i have fun with that. We're terrible due to the tourists heroin. Honestly i honestly. What is the matter with us. Grenade go to do exist guys right. Jesus she's not me the worst. Do you believe the yawn is eight fifty minis after the game. Yeah my son eats twenty by himself and he's thirteen so i like yeah i do. I think that like he should have remembered each bucket as he ate it. All my first two points were this my next two points. You don't when he gets to the fifth yeah. He should like give us a narration. As his even the nuggets of the buckets he got during the game. So i like. I would if i scored a fifty fifty piece nugget and a series winning game. I'm talking about it every nugget of it. Let's talk about this for a second. Because i don't believe people properly appreciated what we just saw as a lover of basketball right rene like that. I mean that dude being that good in that situation is is is one of those sports things that you should remember the rest of your life. Because it's how you'll talk about wilt fifty years after wilt one hundred percent and even when you think about it i'd like to make a psa I don't feel so bad that. The atlanta hawks lost to the champions. It's always better to lose the chance so that was easier for me to swallow but also like to apologize to the. I thought that there was no way in the world at the milwaukee bucks beat the phoenix suns with a chris. Paul led team. So i said out loud and i had to admit out loud that i was wrong. I didn't see it happening and having said that. Janas i'm mean again. He's dead at allied and he talked about his media interviews. He was letting people know all right. I didn't wanna do with the super team way. So we have to give him all the flowers that he took it team and a small market that nobody really goes to a free agency. He didn't even get very many recruits from his superstar. Friends that come through and he just wanna championship. I don't care that this was the year people got hurt. We don't play those ashdod games. Like honest did something that if you just really go back and look at it with his skill set you know. A lot of people thought that he could win with a skill set that he has he can't shoot from outside even though he's nice his likeability he the dog. And i mean that in a good way like janas is a dog and he showed it to everyone to billy's question though rene. I don't think he understands the athlete's body. The coal that that furnace requires and how ridiculously ridiculously fit. Janas has to be to do what he did. In that game on both sides of the court so that actually fifty nuggets wouldn't be something other than him like popping right popping eminem's because he needs to feed the furnace and. I don't think you can explain to people what playing at that level for. Forty six minutes that in a way that we'd ever understand yet. Listen not just that but everybody has to remember in the atlanta hawks series. His knee bent fifteen degrees. The wrong way like it bent the wrong way. We all saw it. Even when they said that he was gonna even said that he was going to be back. Everyone was like what will he looked like the clearly. He's not going to be that good so for him to come from that series where it was questionable if he was gonna play and then to play forty six minutes at the highest level they were calling them mcnuggets. He said he's gonna get a fifty piece mcnuggets at chick-fil-a law people should tell you honestly the mcnuggets mcdonald's but yes he deserves to get every single one of those. I love that the fans came out there because janas a once in a lifetime generational talent but he's that type of talent. I don't know people don't we don't recognize it as such. Because he's not flashy the razzle-dazzle like steph curry. But he's do. He's not do for real. Rene said you know that chris wittingham so that he's a to. He's a too. Yeah yeah i can to guard. No no i said he was a to like. He couldn't be the best player on your team and you win a championship. I mean but there's truth to that he's even said it like i mean. He's even acknowledged that. Yeah chris nelson down the stretch when. Chris middleton scored ten points in a row in the fourth quarter and different things. Yeah every batman needs a robin maybe janas and kris which outfits throughout the game. I think that's what it is like you batman. Now i'll be robert. It's kind of like they got this little thing. Going on but yeah. This is not your typical kobe. Bryant star type where. He's going to get the shot at the end of the game. No matter what that's not gonna sustain you tried to get there right. Jason kidd tournament to a point guard and he became the ball handler never was asking for him to shoe and in some. Who's him reverting to an old skill set where he's just going in eight and over and over again and phoenix could only throw kaminsky adam or like they had no answer he just discovered if i just keep going and going and going at the rim that they're not going to be able to stop me for four quarters but i mean you know to that point the andre eight and we all saw throughout the games monty williams was giving a pep talks. The team was giving him pep talks. Don't realize it. Milwaukee watches game film to so they probably went back was watching. Everybody try to pep up and cheer the andre eight and they were probably in the locker room like yawn is go at his head. Look at this guy. He doesn't want any parts of it. So i think that the andre eytan struggles kind of fuel yon is because he was euro and spinning around him. I mean it was like a highlight. Reel for janas but to that point. They saw something that they could exploit and they did it. The whole game after that. Rene i want to play something for you of us. Being loud wrong of in a variety of different ways about this series of the price of gas bags is very popular around here. And this is just sound from us analyzing the game. Before i do that. I do believe that what i was watching there and i do so little of this saying what an athlete's thinking or feeling but because of what you're talking about with the eighteen pep talks what i thought to myself while i was watching that as de'andre eight and is by any reasonable measurement more athletic than anyone in the world any other human being and he does not have the skill set. This other person has who can do all the things he does and this on offense and so it's just fouls and eight and used to being the best. He's the first round pick and he's he's coming up and he's telling us that's the best draft ever and you just showed him no. I'm bigger stronger faster everywhere. And it's a masculine. You're just talking rene guys at the gym it's emasculating. Jaanus did de'andre eight and who doesn't get emasculated by anybody. I saw a young player. De'andre eight and i could see that he's young. You know. I've been around those young teammates that win. You look in their eyes like they call it a deer in headlights almost to wear. It's like this is a big moment. He's young maybe he's not not saying he's not ready for the moment but you could tell that that was a big moment for him and he was frustrated his emotions were spilling out all over the place and jaanus yes said. Oh yeah i saw barbecue. Chicken gonna saw barbecue chicken and was like i'm going at him. Every time he was blue. Youngest was blocking shots. Janas was everything that the andrea eight needed to be in that series for phoenix. So it was. It was like a man playing against a young player. Because you could just see it. Let's play the parade of gas bags. Here means gonna lead it off right. This should be fun. This is always a delight to recap the year with a bunch of sound where we got it wrong. Cortez you honestly think that. They're as good as the top. Three teams the sixteenth better than the top three teams. That's right bucks and nets become afraid of the box. They're better than they were last year. Are the heat better than they were better than they were. If you've been watching the nba this year hasn't been no. That's not true. See we're going to do this again. The bucks are just as good as they were. Just as good okay. So we've already talked you down. You wanna take a look at the standings here about the standing on talking about the team that they have out there in the players that they've got improved the worst. They're not winning as much. They don't have the same point differential. They were having one of the best regular seasons ever last year until they weren't. It's kinda turned out in these playoffs. Jaanus is probably the nba's best number two. Oh because i think it's kind of been determined that he can't be your one in of his specific skill set and the areas of the game which he struggles you can't rely upon him to get baskets at the Little coulter chatter. Here guys bounce. Back win rookies. I will not accept as an answer from the group. That the difference between what i saw between heat and bucks last year and what i saw this year's drew holiday get the get out of here. All day middleton or just inconsistent. They're just too inconsistent. It drives you crazy. Sometimes you know who they are. The hardest working condition most professional and selfish meanest nastiest most disliked team in the nba. Milwaukee doesn't look like itself against he defend it seems like such a dilution the product for me. It feels like an nba two k. Finals after a lean simulation as opposed to what really happens in the sport obviously in the case yawn as we know he wants to is playing at the highest possible right now but i just don't think he has a reaction time because he's not moving as well defensively he can't keep anybody in. Fundable is closed very tentative. And kind of he's moving gingerly and then when the when the player attacks it's done the boxer died the thing about this is drew holiday that the reason why they paid four first round picks in the off season to get your holiday with that he would be a stopper in the playoffs. And he's not doing that. I think injury that the bucks suffered is actually showing. Its ugly head here in the finals. And that's dante jeevan. I'm beginning question. Everything i've thought about the milwaukee but the level of basketball that. They've done dare. I say this this. This is one of the worst teams in finals. His you're playing a dangerous game changing your mind in the middle of a series which allows you to be wrong number of different times and ways to be honesty dan. I have zero confidence. The bucks came in a game a game.

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The Steelers Retro Show: The Steelers mix up a KC masterpiece

Behind the Steel Curtain

31:36 min | 4 months ago

The Steelers Retro Show: The Steelers mix up a KC masterpiece

"Support for this episode comes from t mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans were baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five g and more places. T mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five g network. Don't get caught looking. Switch to t mobile the leader and five g today fastest according to open single awards based on average speeds in usa five experience report able two thousand twenty one tv device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com pittsburgh steeler fans. Welcome once again to the retro show. It's the show where. Brian anthony davis. That's me tony julius steffi. Oh that's him. Hey tony a man with going on yes. What do we do this show. We go back in time and this time tony. We are going back to an era when the delorean was brand new. Because that movie just came out tony. I'm doing well. I hope you're doing well as well. This is going to be a fun time. It's not a celebrated era for the steelers. But it felt good to you and me did it. It sure did. This is the my my formative years has fan ten years older than us. You got the experience super bowl years whereas we got to experience a little bit of rebuilding and and transition and this was part of that and this was actually very interesting. Pittsburgh steeler team that we're going to talk about because they were just coming off a season where they went nine and seven but ended up in the afc championship game where they lost to the miami dolphins. It was a really fun time. Very interesting team. Didn't start off to well. They started off the season at four and five bay. Were having a chance to get to five hundred not only and stay top of the afc central and we'll talk about that in a second but let's give the date here. We are going back to a time when the number one song was from one of the hottest tv shows in the land. It was an instrumental. Tony how much do you remember. Yon hammer wow an instrumental keyboard synthesizer adviser. I can't say that word yup. Yeah okay. I remember that song. Yeah wow i forgot about that. The theme from beverly hills cop nope. That's that's herald waltemeyer. But that was nine hundred five as well. No tony come on. Could you imagine you. And i in silk suits t shirts and no socks on doing the beat in miami miami vice. Yes let's show you would've loved identity. I did love it. Oh man. I haven't seen that show since the eighties. That's probably the problem. I haven't gone back and watch it again. I need to absolutely great show and not a lot of people realize that sonny crockett the character played by don. Johnson was a wide receiver at the university of florida. He was a florida. Gator one of those people who did not know that until just now. That's that's pretty solid to information. That's a good. Thanks so there you go. We talked about one of the hottest movies at the time movie of the summer. It was back to the future. And that's where we all found out about a delorean but the number one movie at the time was in the crime franchise. It was a movie named after. What would happen. If i ate my mother-in-law's cooking it was charles bronson in death. Wish three my grandfather loved rose bronson because he found out somehow. I don't know how he found out that he was polish and my grandfather was pulling anybody that was policy. He was a big fan of He really loved those movies. Do you know where. Charles bronson hailed from tony. I want to say it was somewhere in pennsylvania that accurate. Yes charles bronson was from erin feld pennsylvania. So he was a western. Pa guy kinda sounds familiar. Not not not the name of the city. But the fact that he was from western. Pa but i. I never knew the town. Charles bronson was probably one of the great tough guys ever in the movies he was he was he had that persona that you never. You never messed with him. There is no doubt that who was the alpha male in any scene and he was in. So let's just get into this game. Tony the steelers came into this road contest. Well depending who you ask. It was a four way tie in the afc central for either first or last place. They were all four and five so the steelers the browns the bengals and the houston oilers sitting four and five. Something had a break. Well the chiefs were sharing the city with the newly minted world series champion. The kansas city royals who had a stunning seven game series win over the st louis cardinals in the battle of mazura. Well here we go. The chiefs started off three and one but a five game. Losing streak had casey reeling and needing a win against a team led by the number three defense in the league including being number one against the pass. That's how good this defense was back. Then tony deaf to make matters worse for the home team. They lost all pro. Defensive end are still and wideout. Henry marshall for the season in the previous week's game. That steelers defense was really mega. Tough tony yeah. We don't give that defense a lot of credit in that era but they were really good. They were good in the previous year sitting up to eighty five. An you said coming into this game. They had to number three defense overall number one against iran and they had a really good squad a promising young defense and it was exciting to watch on this drizzly. Thirty nine degree afternoon gary anderson would kick off the ball to the red-clad home team outcomes veteran bill kenny. Who was a draft. Pick of the miami dolphins and marv albert in the booth along with bob greasy reminded us of that because bob greasy was a super bowl champion with the miami dolphins and bob greasy remembered catty in training camp. So kenny goes immediately deep to stef on page. He slowdown down to catch the ball. In front of the much-maligned harvey clayton page. However he was out of bounds. After kenny was hurried by by the great keith willis member nine then threw incomplete to anthony. Hancock who was covered well by rick woods. Who was subbing for an injured. Dwayne woodruff one of the great holdovers from that nineteen seventy-nine super bowl team. So casey had a punt and that was the result. The steelers were going to get the ball but that defense came out harassing bill. Kenny keith willis is a guy that you don't realize is in the top five all time i believe he's still number four in sacks for the steelers. He is a great player number. Ninety three tony he certainly is. He was an undrafted free agent at northeastern eighty two. And he just. He made his way onto the roster and he wound up having much better career than keith. Gary the other keith. Who was drafted in the first round a year before. So yeah keith. Well as wendy unsung heroes. The nineteen eighties. After a short return by the league's leading punt returner lewis lips. Yeah he was doing it back then they would woodley another guy who was drafted by the miami dolphins. So we have miami vice being the number one song you have former miami dolphin. Quarterbacks you've got a miami dolphin quarterback in the booth but david woodley comes out and leads the steelers out of the huddle and he subbing for mark malone mark malone was home injured. What happened to mark malone the week before he suffered a concussion. I was not a mark malone fan. I really wasn't tony. He had an arrogance about them. The steelers really lacked from a true number. One quarterback in the nineteen eighty. Something we're going to talk about a whole lot later in the show. But i was really rooting for david. Woodley and those guys went back and forth here. Man they did. He had a quarterback position is inflexible. All throughout the eighty-five campaign. And that's the problem. And you don't have stability at that position. It could really affect the franchise and as we were seeing up to this point in the season. So the steelers also came out with an all. Baylor backfield of walter abercrombie and frank pollard. And they combined for a first down on the initial three plays on the ground but on a third and seven near midfield the chiefs. Blitzed up the middle with greg hill and mark robinson who just subbed in as defensive backs and the league leader with five interceptions. A man named deron cherry number twenty. This guy was fantastic and pro. I have him in my sticker books. So i knew who this guy was. He stepped in front of john. Stallworth and what's he do tony. He picks it often takes it all the way. Back for a touchdown forty seven yards and just like that. The home team is up seven and talk about a stunner in the beginning. You're right to run cherry. He was one of the premier quarterbacks of his day so yeah he was no stranger to big place and they lost a guy named gary barbaro to the usfl. Gary barbara was a great defensive. Back forum and durant cherry comes in today. No problem guys. I've got this in the stands in a private booth. There were some guys celebrating guys at war. Royal blue hats. Light blue jerseys. The kansas city royals bret saberhagen. George brett guys like that. We're celebrating as the chiefs. Took a seven. Nothing lead on the steelers. It was the third interception return for a score against the steelers in one thousand nine hundred eighty five at that point. I said this was game number ten. So that's not too good after a todd. Spencer returned to the thirty yard. Line outcomes the steelers once again and they return to the ground but to not much avail on third down in a passing situation woodley through an absolute beautiful strike over the middle to the league leading receiver. And that was the john stallworth for thirty three yard gain in front of another very good chief. Defender albert lewis after completion for fifteen yards. Stallworth would li had the black and gold at the kansas city. Seventeen after running. Play the duo said. Hey guys we're not done woodley stallworth. Let's do it again and they absolutely did. It was another fifteen yarder to number eighty two to tie the score at seven but there was a nervous moment. John stallworth was lying on the field on the back of the endzone. Tony what happened. You said it was a beautiful play on both ends. A great pass by woodley and a great catch by star throughout stretched out and caught it and landed on his knee in the back of the end the problem was while ending on his knees sprained his knee and anxious moments to follow. The bluebirds came out as bill. Kenny continue to struggle and the chiefs punted again with good field position. The visitors came out with john. Stallworth injured knee and all coming out to play. And he would not take the rest of the day off. You'll find out what he did later on so he seemed to be okay but there was a problem. Another guy who had a injured knee all season long missed the first five games of the year. He was another former first round draft. Pick from nineteen seventy six. It was benny cunningham and he hobbled off the field and he was gone for the rest of the day. That's leaving the team with only one tighter now in preston gothard a guy who was not known much as a receiver so tony they were losing guys at the tight end position but they had some great receivers. They would pay dividends later on in this game. So here comes the steelers trying to get back on the board again. Despite a seventeen yard pickup i- abercrombie and a juggling first down by number twenty four rich ehrenberg unsung hero of the teams of that day. The drive stalled here. Comes the struggling. Gary anderson tony. He wasn't doing so well in one thousand nine hundred five at this point he was not up to this point and again gaming he's doing his best roy guerrilla impression. He came into the game. Twelve or twenty which is so unlike premier kickers of his day when most accurate of all time in this era but he did hit from thirty five yards out so the steelers took a lead ten to seven with one thirteen left in the first period. Another three and out for the chiefs ended the first quarter as did one for the steelers to bring out harry. Newsome kick away from the forty two yard line back to field. It was the chiefs garcia lane. He fielded the ball to nine and got popped by a sea of white jerseys and coughed up. The pill the steelers recovered and were set up at the kansas city. Fourteen yard line. What happened here. Tony play by special teams and they really set up the offense in prime field position at the fourteen yard line. it was. It was a big break after after bouncing back from a seven nothing deficit to take a ten seven lead. They have a really great chance of take neutral this game at this point but they could not really advance the ball into the end zone. Though here comes gerry. Anderson once again. It's a thirty one yard or to increase the black and gold lead to thirteen to seven. Here's the problem. The home teams like man. We've got the world series champs here. We've got a lot a pride we're not going to go away on third and five from the forty five yard line bill. Kenny found jeff smith who was being covered and covered well by mike merriweather but found a way to beat them and the nebraska rookie pin pinball into the end zone for a forty five yard touchdown for his first. Nfl score both teams then traded the three and outs than the chiefs. Kicking away to louis. Lips couldn't contain the second year. Man as he did this. I forgot all about this. Hummer turning went seventy one yard up the left side and just like that. It's twenty to fourteen the good guys. I couldn't believe it was. This was such a great return by him. And i thought i had all louis lips punt returns memorized but this one slipped my memory but it was a thing of beauty and he was one of the best all around weapons for his day. He was really a special player. He got a critical block from the second year. Man from notre dame. Chris brown on that play and he was off and running. I'm gonna dare and say this. I'm really thinking. The lewis lips was the best punt returner in pittsburgh steelers history that includes antonio brown. You get an argument for me. He's he's probably my favorite steeler of all time so in this little period of his career. And i started out. He was an all pro and had he not been besieged by injuries. He might on to be one of the all time greats. I always have that argument. It's really tough to say who was the best number eighty three. And i don't even want to have that argument. Because i love louis lips and heath miller equally and it's really hard to do but it's funny when he would catch a football in three rivers stadium you would just hear lou asked miller. I caught balls. You would swear they were saying lou but it turned into heath but he sounded like glue. And i think some of them were doing that on purpose. It was awesome. That's a great tribute of you're getting compared to such a great player. In lewis lips against great steeler so after anderson converted the extra point the steelers had a lead twenty to fourteen as the first half was winding down again. The pittsburgh defense stifled the chiefs to force another punt by jim arnold with three fifty left in the second the steelers set up shop at their own twenty yard line. And we're going to find out what happened at that twenty yard line and beyond for the rest of the game when we come back right after this on the steelers retro show from behind the steel curtain dot com support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is sports. Fans dream come true. It's a live audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together in real time as you celebrate a buzzer beater or suffer the agony of crucial bricks. Free throw. and if you've got a bunch of supremely spicy takes you'd like to fire off during luck you can even record the conversations if you want and released as a podcast so it's time to start thinking about catching titles. It's all totally free and available at the app store right now so go. Download it today. Locker room changing the way we talk sports. Welcome back to the steelers retro show. My name is brian. Anthony davis that other voice that you hear is an all time great from behind the curtain dot com ten plus year veteran. Tony deaf yo. What's going on man and having a great time chronicling game with you. This is this has been a placid talk about. Here's something so very interesting. That i want to talk about that. I did not even put it in my notes for this game. The steelers had a great special teams day here. They had a fantastic time with gary anderson. Going nuts kicking. You had louis lips that just took the seventy one yarder. Who was their coach. The man himself the emperor check no. He was the special teams coach that year and it was really cool. Because you saw him coaching on the sidelines. He was coaching. This guy four super bowls. He was a legend wanna just delegate and let things go one of his great years one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and i love watching that season. I love watching the seasons especially even the year before nineteen eighty-four where you had teams. That had no business going as far as they did in. The playoffs and chuck knoll was constantly teaching. You not the warm and fuzzy guy that you would expect out of anybody you know we had more warm and fuzzy guys i mean i know it'd be hard to say that bill coward mike tomlin or warm and fuzzy guys but they really are compared to that of the emperor. Charles henry noll. Tony check navarro. He said that his favorite part of coaching was doing even after a super bowl when he would just feel deflated he would just feel lost and depressed because he just loved to teach you love the coach and he loved to be hands on. And that's i. The i think few people realise about and they think investors stoic guy with the with the grimace and the players made a mistake but now he was really passionate about his job. Man you just said grimace. I'm thinking about mcdonald's that's really. That's really funny. Let's go back to this game after getting a break. When an apparent fumble by louis lips was ruled. Incomplete and woodley went deep to we g thompson for a forty two yard gain down to the thirty number. Nineteen zero to twenty four yard to lips down to the two yard line. Then comes walter. Abercrombie a favorite of yours and mine. Not one of the all time greats. But still i mean you know. Top fifteen in pittsburgh steelers rushing he caps off the drive with a score for his fifth touchdown in six games with forty nine seconds left in the half. So there's a lot to talk about from this last paragraph we g thompson number eighty seven. That was a big dude from florida. State tony he was in his first couple years. He promised a fourth round. Pick out of florida and florida. Florida state florida state florida state. Yeah ronnie lott paying the ultimate compliments that eighty four victory that they had at candlestick he said that we d thompson an entire day block them and blocked him. Imagine that somebody like ronnie lott remembering weedy thompson. Many years later. I thought that was pretty interesting. He went six five. He was a physical guy. This was only his second catch of nineteen eighty five in a second season but it was really interesting to see is going to be a guy that you remember as an all time. Great now no. He's not gonna make he's probably not going to make your third team at wide receiver. Make your four team but right but he was one of those guys one of those anonymous guys that came up big one of the reasons we remember we g because he was a six five guy and he was one of those players that get a code name weedy thompson would probably be a star in two thousand and twenty one but back then i don't even know if they knew exactly to do with them but a forty two yarder on this day set the steelers up in good field position to get that touchdown from abercrombie. What was the problem with walter. Abercrombie tony because he's a guy that was a number one pick in one thousand nine hundred eighty two out of baylor. He shared the backfield with frank pollard. Out of baylor. He never had the thousand yard season but he was very valuable of this team. I think those guys might be the best platoon in pittsburgh. Steelers history next to a franco harris in a rocky bleier together. Yeah absolutely i. i'm not sure i mean. The talent was evident even see it every now and then it would break out and have a great game or make a great run. And you're like man you know this. Is this the first round. Pick from one thousand nine hundred two. You could see the talent. He just never quite put it all together. I personally think first of all he had a tough act to follow him. Franco harris offense flowed through franco in the in the seventies and he was a fullback back. Then fullbacks could be the primary back and the offense whereas abercrombie was a tailback. And i think it was harder for the. Maybe chuck nolan. The offense to try to devise game. Platform behalf is almost ready to end. Bill kenny throws up a last-gasp almost a hail mary to end the half. The legend hall of famer donnie. Shell pulls it in. That's it for the half. Its twenty seven fourteen at the break to start the second half of the steelers set up business of the twenty nine but had to punt the ball away. The kansas city chiefs still could do nothing whatsoever. Against the likes of brian. Henkel on defense keith willis as well after only a thirteen yard punt yeah only a thirteen yard. He shanked it the steelers with plays by lips. Stallworth woodley pollard. Abercrombie march towards the touchdown zone. When the drive stopped at the nine here comes south african gary anderson from syracuse to convert again to make the score thirty two fourteen with six minutes remaining in the third. Wow tony if they could convert these field goals two touchdowns. This is a blow up of epic proportions. That's right. I mean you take that away. And they're more proficient with scoring as you said scoring touchdowns when it got down close. This would have been one of the all blowouts at arrowhead stadium so both teams traded punts again is the fourth quarter began and we had a rare sighting. Darryl sims. the number one pick number ninety nine had a tackle on this day it might have been one of his few in his career and we also had the cameras showing a man up in the box with a headset on. He was the steelers defensive coordinator. You might have heard of him. He was a former minnesota quarterback. Stay was tony dungy. Yeah pretty good careers head coach. He got his start with the steelers. He was the youngest coordinator in the league. I think at that time he was. What twenty eight. Twenty nine years old and he went oddity pretty pretty good for himself after this. I loved seeing tony. Bungee in that capacity. Dundee's did show some cracks though on the series is the chiefs marched down the field in less than three minutes. The seven play drive culminated in a jeff smith. Thirteen yards from kenny. So jeff smith the rookie had his second career touchdown against the steelers if he had many more in his career. Tony but on this day jeff smith was pretty darn good at thirty to twenty one. The game was far from over on the next drive. The steelers kept things alive with rich ehrenberg from colgate making a gorgeous thirty four yard. Grab and another first down to get progress down to the three yard line. So they went to ehrenberg a lot on this drive. But the chiefs stiffened in anderson came out again and gary converted again this time from thirty six yards for thirty three to twenty one lead in this ball game tony after thirty seven yard return by garcia lane. The chiefs looked like they can get back in the game but another three and out forced punt. That defense was smoke and like we said they were the number one defense villa. Good on this day. tony did they. Were dominant the chiefs. Had a hard time running the ball all day and one of those things that we i think a lot of people forget about how good they were on defense because they didn't have those perennial may remember from the seventies but this defense was tough. We'll six minutes left. The steelers had a chance to wrap things up. It looked like they could when woodley launched the ball stallworth. And this was not your normal. John stallworth catch. This was his buddy lynn swann. That's what it looked like here. What happened on this play tony. He initially went up with the defender that they try to catch the ball and tipped and he's going down he he had great presence of mind. This is a great president minded the typical just right hand and keep it alive and as sliding on his back. He caught the ball. It was actually a thing of beauty. Prizes play doesn't get talked about more. One of the greatest catches franchise. History forty two yard gain was absolutely incredible. Nineteen to eighty two at the two minute warning number one came out again kicked number five on the day. So going from twelve for twenty. Two seventeen at twenty-five gonna make your a whole lot better at this point. Tony absolutely too bad fantasy. Football wasn't as popular back dinner. I don't even have existed back then but that would have been a great day for anybody. Who had gary innocent on your fantasy had a. It was a great bounceback game for him. After struggling with the steelers now leading thirty six to twenty one. They were in firm control in a last gasp attempt for some points. Kenny spray. the ball around down the field and with eighteen seconds left the chiefs scored when number nine connected with anthony hancock for meaningless thirteen yard score a woman on a horse named war. Point galloped out on the field in a fruitless hopeless celebration. I thought that was quite bizarre. Tony it was because back then. There wasn't a two point conversion so yeah it was a to scoring game with seconds left there. There's no chance at the we're gonna come back. It was a weird thing to see back then. Well let's bring up the horse. Anyways the steelers even their record to five and five as the clock struck triple zeros. It wasn't a great rest of the season as the steelers did not win. The division did not go to the playoffs. Abercrombie had twenty carries for sixty seven yards and a touchdown pollard. Seventeen for fifty three. Which ehrenberg tony. Four for twenty on the ground averaging five yards per carry and he was two for fifty in the air not a lot of people realize how valuable he was in the mid eighty s number. Twenty four from colgate tony. He was in a lotta ways. He's kind of like a precursor to merrill haji really. Was that kind of good all around player. Who could catch the ball. The backfield i i think he he was a kickoff. Return her to. He was a promising young from eighty four draft class really promising young players on the team at this time in asia and look like the rest of the decade would be really good so tony i've left the guy off the list here for stats so i'm gonna throw his stats out here. But i'm not going to say who it is. Because i have a feeling that this is your game baugh for the day. This is a guy who never won a super bowl. Mvp but really should have seven catches for one hundred and twenty six yards on the day. My correct tony. It's man john stallworth. The old warhorse guy who was a comeback player of the year before this guy was had such a phenomenal career when he retired. He retired as the all time. Greatest receiver as far as stats and in franchise history and he was still going strong in the mid eighties and it was. It was a great thing to see. So tony this team had some firepower at wide receiver had a really good running game. They had a very good offensive line. The defense was number one in the league. So my question to you is if the steelers had dan marino or rothlisberger in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. This would have been a different story. would it have been more. I watch these games. And more i learned about these mid eighty steelers team see the roster and you see how much promises there guys like at defense. You mentioned mary weather. Bryan hinkle. keith. Willis you know it was such a fantastic young defense and of course the firepower offense you mentioned the name a star wars and lips and and had a solid running game. They like to run the ball an that missing the missing link. Apparently that x. factor was a really really good quarterback. If you get another franchise caliber quarterback marino in there might have been a completely different story and for the steelers in the eighties but it will never be in. This remains the sad decade of the last five six decades. But i will say this. Tony still one of my favorites and i believe it's yours as well and absolutely and this is where it all started for both of us i mean i started following them in really on a regular basis in one thousand nine hundred eighty after last super bowl against the rams. That's when i really started following them. This is where it all started and it made me appreciate the nineties. Even more of the fact that they had to struggle through some ref years in the eighties. Even though it wasn't all that bad i mean. They still made the playoffs four times and they were a game away from the super bowl again so it was a fun decade to be a fan and a little kid too it was. We will always go back to the seventies. We'll always go back to the nineties. The two thousands but on the retro show the eighties is always fair game and we go back there a lot because these memories are so much fun you and i. We were thirteen years old at the time. And it feels good to hearken back to those days so four tony jeffey. Oh my name is brian. Anthony davis from behind the steel curtain dot com catches here every single week. As we go back in time and relive dandy from the pittsburgh steelers so as huey lewis and the news would say from that year when that movie came out about a delorean and going back in time you can take us away. We don't mind but you better promise us. We'll be back in time.

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Dameshek on Steelers, Betting Week 1

You Better You Bet

16:00 min | 2 months ago

Dameshek on Steelers, Betting Week 1

"It's nick costas and ken barclay on you better. You bet from becky well yes. It is our number two here on this fantastic football friday nick. Costa's can barkley with you. We spent the entire first hour. I had a lot of fun going over. Almost every single preseason game. We're going to see this weekend. We still gotta hit the bears in the bills. That game coming up tomorrow the mitch. Trubisky of revenge game. We've got the arizona cardinals and the kansas city chiefs the cincinnati bengals in the washington. Football team coming up tonight. We'll hit those games. Give you our bets in the power hour in the final hour of the show. Still to come this hour. Two a days baltimore ravens. Cincinnati bengals are cleveland browns. Excuse me are takes on those teams in the afc. North brad evans is still to come from bali sports. Dave sharon former vegas oddsmaker still to come as well but right now we continue the nfl conversation with one of our absolute favorite guests. Here on you better. you bet. That is our pal. The great the very entertaining very informative is a huge pittsburgh. Steelers fan as you can see if you're watching the show on video right now. Our pal day of damage. Dave dozen outstanding job at the extra points podcast network with our buddy cousin. Sal minus three is his podcast. He also is on cousin sal on the extra points podcast day. We'll come back to you better. You bet happy. Football friday. My friend nick and ken beck. You'll what's going on. You guys are talking my language. I love to hear it yes. Baseball season is still going on. But it is my mind. My heart my gut. It is football season fully. Yeah we had a big argument on minus three yesterday. The red sox fan kevin hanson the yankees fan eddie. Spaghetti went added for the millions. Time you've been a part of that costa's yourself you've been in that mix turns out red sox fan still hate the yankees that's That's basically the update. Let's stop paul. Yes red sox fans definitely well. Maybe they would've told you they didn't the yankees and then they've lost like twenty out of twenty five games now. They probably really. The guy has something to do with it. Might be related. Might be related story. They we spent if you can believe it. We spend about an entire hour leading into your interview talking about betting angles for this weekend and the nfl. Preseason the bevy of games that we're going to have hoping maybe you can give us a little bit of insight. I didn't have any bets on the steelers. Lions game. That was not a game that i had a bet for. And steelers are out to about a touchdown favourite. It doesn't look like jared goff's gonna play for the lions total. I think he's like thirty. Six thirty seven any anything. We can glean anything. We can look forward to betting in your pittsburgh steelers. Preseason i mean listen i you know i just singing songs here about my enthusiasm. For the arrival of autumn twenty twenty one because it brings with it. Football college and pro august is alive for your is. How many times do we have to talk about this. Fella's it's a civil war reenactment. It only looks real air go. Wagering big dollars is a dangerous game. All that being said you know. I laid out all the precautionary notes to the would be. I actually do like first. Quarter for the pittsburgh steelers dimension that you can't be preseason the first quarter dealers question. I'm trying to be a gentleman and respond to it first. Quarter steelers. They have their starting quarterback playing the lines. Don't have their starting quarterback that's pretty straightforward right. That's about as it's about. As deep as i'll go now you wanna talk about what's going to happen once. The games actually cow. Now i have some some stronger opinions for you that stuff. Well let me let me ask you this and then we can. We can bring this into the steelers week. One game against the bills. Sunday september twelfth with our a touchdown dog. So what a what constitutes for you like. What will you be happy with from ben rothlisberger when he when he has his first action. The mad candidate system. So what are you going to be looking for from van. Obviously like who cares if they win the game. Like i guess veterans do and maybe you want them to win the first quarter. But what are you looking for from ben and then what you expect england. Pittsburgh travels to buffalo in week one. Well of course the trick is always that no team is going to show you anything that they intend to do in you know with any specificity In terms of play calling as they the one of the more popular words in the month of august is vanilla. Because that's odd because that's what they want. You vanilla the nil offense vanilla schemes. That's all anybody's going to see. I mean i mean the the smart aleck but sincere answer to is i. I want no one to get hurt. because it's a shame for these guys to to Get banged up before the games. Actually start the matter is is the answer there. But legitimately at this age for rothlisberger. He's not been a guy a pro. We debate whether it was his choice or randy feet near the former offensive coordinators or some combo but it was pretty clear. That rothlisberger was more against going under center than just about any quarterback in the league. He always liked them. And you know and it it makes all the sense in the world that you that you don't want to turn your back on the defense and play action And you like to take the direct snap. I do legitimately practically have some concerns for a guy who's played it a certain way for so many years. Now how fluidity is plus. We know he had something with a knee a year ago. you know how how sprightly will he look How nimble will he appear going under center. Turn around to give it to niger. Hairs or I don't think we're going to see some of the candida wrinkles of You know the jet sweep action or anything tonight necessarily but you know how ready rothlisberger is to transition to go and under center debut kind of alluded to it already but obviously like one of the better games of week one and for people who didn't listen to the podcast. Yesterday we're doing. Two teams everyday preview is and we did the steelers and the bengals yesterday ravens and browns days so right in the middle of of afc north talk. Which is the perfect time to ask you this question. You said you had thoughts. Once the games get meaningful and serious everything counts. You have a lot of thoughts on that game. I think nick. And i are going to be on opposite sides. I think he likes buffalo or at least would only bet buffalo in the game. I i like pittsburgh. I have a bunch of trends early season stuff that points in their direction. I know who you're going to be rooting for. What will you be betting on in week. one. Well i think we can lure. Perhaps we can pull our pal nick into into this with a with new game teaser. Or how about this. And let's fly to big blue showy. Let's not argue. Nick will come on. We're you know we're gentlemen you and me let's join forces here and do this first of all whatever whatever cynicism you have for the pittsburgh steelers we also happening in heinz field january at the hands of the of the woeful cleveland brands. So i get. I get why people are suspect of what's going to happen this year. Do you really think the pittsburgh steelers. How many times in mike. Tomlin or bill cower era. Do you recall them. Losing by two touchdowns. Here's what we'll do. We'll tear tease the steelers up to two plus thirteen and will take the home dog giants to what did did did the bookmakers forget that. Aaron rodgers didn't go to denver there. Why why are they giving points to the giants in new jersey in week one. I don't understand but here's what we'll do will benefit from it and we'll tease the giants up to seven and a half at home. This is a winner. Let's get out of the gates with a little bit of luton. Our pockets right on. I think we'll want one of those sides. I think will win. That could be. That could be the giants. Well let's see. I mean maybe. The bills are such a juggernaut. They're just going to house the steelers. Maybe also won the mighty. Afc north a season ago. Your that down on them. They're gonna lose by two touchdowns to the bills away. He's very typical statement. I hope you don't mind because when you say certain words people mad that you brought the but these teams for real. That are not vaccinating. I it's a legitimate thing in football terms. This has nothing to do with politics or me. Counseling what you need to do and shouldn't do but in football terms if you are close contact you cannot play football for ten days. This is bound to impact some teams along the way the the the lower vaccinated teams. The bills are one of them as it happens. And i think there's a legitimately going to be if you saw beyond dockings earlier this week talking. About how bad it was for him. I do think there's legitimately remember the whole kneeling thing a few years ago. And it's like this is going to divide the locker. I think that there is a chance. At least that could be a real headache for head coaches to try and manage if there are if this does continue to go on here with positive tests springing up all over the country we did see by the way some of the bill sniping at each other on twitter with the beasley situation. So there may be some merits that speaking politics. I thought for sure when you were like some of canada's wrinkles universal healthcare was going to be thrown in there but you decided to skip past that one here on you better. You bet bet you'll mukasey barclay talking. Nfl here with the great. Dave damage on twitter at damaged of the extra points. Podcast network. dave. I wanna stay in the afc. North and ken. And i are going to be talking about the two teams. The market expects to finish as the top two in the division. That's the baltimore ravens. And the cleveland browns. Who do you like more this season. And why baltimore or cleveland's by time it's the browns that roster is you know it's got to be in the top three top to bottom rosters if you remove quarterback from the conversation. I just think you know. The browns are hard to poke holes in the one potential question. Mark is the sport's most important position. I think he's a middle class guy that they're trying to convince themselves is A high class guy and worthy of that big second contract same thing is going on in charm city with lamar jackson and whether or not he's gonna get his big second deal way. I think the beneficiaries of both of those things that are bound to happen eventually are going to be the bengals in the steelers because as we know and that i know that sounds like a knock on the two younger quarterbacks i guess name. They're drafted back in twenty eighteen. But you know facts are facts and they're pretty straightforward that once you get into your second contract that diminishes the rest of the roster and i think we're right on the cusp here of the lamar jackson issue. I the baker mayfield stuff is more straightforward. I just think that if you put him behind mediocrity mediocrity on the offensive line and otherwise he will be revealed as mediocre. Lamar jackson is the infinitely more talented guy. But i do think he needs really strong offensive line. I think their questions there. The ravens need to play complementary defense one of our favorite phrases in football season. And i think that I don't know that that front seven long in the tooth in baltimore as it is. I don't know that it's up to the challenge either. I think they're going to be a little under what people expect. I think the browns are the real deal that they're going to win that division. I think pittsburgh's second. I think the ravens. If you wanna lock somebody and you can Circle exact place in the division as a as a bad. I think there's value in taking the ravens air at number three because the odds are are pretty juicy and then the bungles the bungles but even there interesting on paper this year more interesting than they have been in at least what three or four seasons. Dave not sure if you If you caught patriots game last night obviously against philli where jail hurts ended up not playing but the patriots. No what did i tell you. I don't watch you to trick me if i start watching. You don't even have it on though like it's not even on running can't he's. He loves football too much. He was watching the nothing for the aesthetics. Because i enjoy looking at it but it doesn't mean i'm reading into it like whoa cam. Newton's ready to go man like room act. You're not there's nothing to see. I the reason. I like cam. Newton as nfl quarterback is because i've watched him play for the carolina. Panthers and i watched him last year about until about halfway through the season when things went south pretty quickly for him. I still say you wanna hot. Take here's one. I think that cam newton with one more really good. Nfl season goes to the hall of fame. That's what i think. Okay well then. Let's the logical follow-up to best would be is. It is that this season so we did the patriots already. As part of our preview series windows nine at bet was used over nine and a half and most other places just under I think they're really really tough team to figure out. I think it's a really tough team to bed into. You seem to think cam might be headed to. The hall of fame gives you another really good year. Is that this year. I gotta think mack jones might start week one. How do you feel about the patriots. Well there's a name you guys might be familiar with. Its billy brinson. I think says that what he calls them. Bill brinson we we got. We got lots of by the way. He's got a really stupid hall of fame. take also matthew. Stafford's go into the hall of fame. So you guys can be the door all you really argue that one. If he goes to the super bowl. Matt's matt stafford is go into the hall of fame. These are what happens. I know. I love the analytics. Gang has now so confused. The argon about him i the analytics gang am i the analytics game. I watch the games. You all of famer. Come on man come on. If matthew stafford takes the rams to the super bowl he's gonna be a hall of famer and listen and by the way if he wins it it's a certainty and as much as people like to argue it and get all wound up about. It doesn't matter what you do in the postseason those. Qb wins no matter. Of course it does eli manning would how much can we confuse ourselves with arguing against beating. Tom brady not once but twice. Of course eli. Manning belongs in the hall of fame. And i don't care what he did. Any other season knows dude. Things are enough to put them into the hall of fame. now. I think what this bill brinson. The aforementioned one floated to me is is a sound point. Is that all of these head. Coaches are incented to ride the vet as long as they can. until it's untenable. I think even in san francisco jimmy g. until it's like wow. That was bad. He just cost us a game. Go with the kid i think. That's what all coaches kinda are predisposed to do. As long as they can ride the vet. I think that's what happens. In new england the first sign of trouble for number one. Then they'll go to number fifty in the red practice jersey matt jones. I hit my general. Just thought is if brinson got some kind of like air brain. Thought i'm just like. I'm it's immediately disqualified. Stay cam and stafford. What are you doing here to this glorious hall of fame. Damage guys pathetic. Honestly i refuse to take any nonsense from anybody about the pro football hall of fame until they remove bob greasy from there. We can like these. How dare you suggest that name for the hall of fame. Hey bob greece's in there. He's a four rings. Like like costa's oh well the two rings yet talking about on passenger talk about a passenger on the way to glory. Look up ob- greasy stats do yourself a favor. The undefeated the seventies band or moral played and then greasy came in and they won the super bowl games. he was he threw he threw. I can't even we got. We got i. We gotta go. We're running out of time here. But i know these are these are like classes. He's on twitter at shake. His podcast is minus three. And the extra points podcast network. He's the absolute best. We love you buddy. Thought you soon on you better. You bet enjoy this. Weekend's all the best fellas that's our pal damage shake love dave all right on the other side. Afc north breakdown. Two days that we start with the baltimore ravens. You better you bet from bacterial. Download the becky. Ul app today to get the latest analytics to help. You beat the sports books.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - (01-24-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - (01-24-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log this is firefighter Raphael Pori yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new spicy Cajun chicken sub Cajun seasons grilled chicken, breast zesty cherry peppers and housemaid Cajun mayo just five fifty five for medium. Remember a portion of every sub you buy cups provide life safety equipment for personal sponsors firehouse subs. Enjoy more subs. Save more lives. Limited time only. Plus tax participating locations by ourselves with. Tony the minimum of one million dollars in two thousand nineteen thousand firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one one percent of every purchase broadcasting from the Mercedes men. This is Dan Patrick our two on this Thursday. Still a man down for tease out for the day. And I'm gonna tell him stay home tomorrow. Pretty stay home. Tomorrow. Can't afford to have anybody get sick. You need to get better. Before we go to Atlanta, though, the happiest guy in the man cave is mclovin because fritzy's not next to him coughing. Seaton's invitation of Todd's cough. He's only had that cough since two thousand eleven I think it's longer than now. And I say to him Todd. You gotta get that checked in any goes. Yeah, I know and then he'll promptly cough right after that. That's not natural. I could be better about feel ever. See like it hurts to imitate. But Todd will say I could be better about that. Because I'll say Todd go see a doctor. You're right. I could be better about that. Just no just go. See a doctor. And then fritzy doesn't tell the doctor. What's wrong? I it's amazing. He'll go in and the doctor will say, well, what's your diet? Then fritzy lies about his diet. And I'll go you got to tell the doctor the truth functions in mountain. Do you gotta tell him. You're you're drinking and eating that. So fritzy's out for the day, then hopefully going to see a doctor I could be better about that. It's like when I ask for it's yours that are you working out or you walking you're doing anything. I could be better about that. Then that means no. And he's got a wife, and he's got a mother. I don't know why I have to play this role who wouldn't want to go. See Landon down in his last career game, ever, five minutes or house. That means he's not going. No, he's not going. No. I'd like to. But I can't. Yes. Mclovin. Won the funny thing is he actually went to that game. But every day people understand everyday you'll asked how to direct question and get an indirect answer. Have you ever seen that Saturday live skit where Martin short plays sixty minutes executive who won't it's a sixty minutes. Get a cigarette burning downing won't directly. That's Todd Fritz which is unusual. Why wouldn't we want to cover that? You're saying. You said we covered it up and not say Todd loves that skit. That's why he's a great Booker to have you ever seen him work the phones. It's unbelievable. He is very very talented at that. He's not Scott Shapiro. But he's very very. Don't do that to poor little guy do that. That would hurt. Okay. Two thousand nine scotch. Shapiro used to work for Mike and Mike at ESPN. And he was there Booker. He now works for Fox Sports radio with us. But I think it came out in Sports Illustrated or something where they're talking about the best radio Booker, and they mentioned Scott Shapiro over. And it it crushed. Fritzy? I can't was worse than a Bronco Super Bowl law and doing this one thousand nine hundred eight at WFAN like it was it was worse than any anything. Like a woman not a supermodel not hugging him was less painful than this. And he just so whenever you brought that up for T guide real serious about that and very defensive. So don't don't be mean spirited to. Fritzy Shapiro never gets sick. He's never even had a call now. And it's not do this. We can't do this. I gotta have him ready to go on Monday in Atlanta. And you'd like to join us, you can Dannon Atlanta dot com, and we got room for about fifty of our listeners and. See that's another thing. If you're bringing your wife or girl, you may not want to show up. Where when I was little mass little surgical matches before Saidles up to your. I know you guys will come up and say, hey, why don't you hug, my wife or my girlfriend, and then Fritz you'll walk up and you're going to hear the following when he comes up. If you heard that in the wilderness like, you would think something was shy better. I don't think it was dying or something was coming for you like a dead. Ryan. Did you hear that? Did you did you write what was? Oh my God. Let's get outta here. No sudden, fritzy comes out of the woods. Feel better Todd. Yeah. We're thinking if you'll better toddler rest up. We are thinking of you thoughts and prayers. Yeah. I hope the garage door is opening today. He's a complex guy is very complicated guy. But that's why we love Todd feel better by the way. Dear we know thing or two about beer the finest quality craft beer available is golden road. We love him the mango cart unique brew received a gold medal at the twenty eighteen world beer Cup inspired by the iconic fruit-cart benders of Los Angeles, mango cart incredibly Chris refreshingly, light wheat ale, bursting with lots of fresh, mango, the wolf pup session. I can't go wrong gonna find it in cans or draft, man. The draft was so good. When we had it. We'll pup session IPA Bruin craft beer since twenty eleven California inspired golden road. All right. Few tweets here. We'll get phone calls. Mclovin. The poll question. What are you and your friends still talking about the bad call and NFC title game or the Super Bowl matchup Seventy-nine percent, the bad call, and I think it's going to continue because I was told yesterday just keep an eye out for this that the NFL has to look at that play. And see if the Nicole Roby Coleman hit was helmet-to-helmet. I don't know if anybody is calling for this. But I was told that the NFL has to look at this. And the saints are asking from what I was told the NFL to look at this. Because it I don't know if it helps you hurt you if you're saints fan like they're not gonna fix the other call. But if you know, the NFL is going, basically, yeah, we admit we made a mistake. We know they made a mistake. But this is the league then saying we made a mistake, but does Nicole Roby Coleman get fined for the hometown. And if you admit the helmet to helmet, then you're admitting pass interference and probably hitting a defenseless receiver. But that could happen over the next twenty four forty eight hours as early as today. Mike Florio from pro football talk will join us coming up a little bit later on spent some time lot of time in the first hour talking about James harden, dropping sixty one it's a career high on the Knicks Victor Oladipo looks like he's gone for the rest of the season. Knee injury last night. Number one, Tennessee, it's weird saying that beats vandy and overtime tonight. The warriors in the whizz timber wolves Lakers and Michigan state versus Iowa say good morning to our radio and TV partners three hundred thirty seven cities around America, and our TV partners, the NBC sports network and direct TV audience channel two thirty nine. I just saw this tweet from an Tonio Brown the Steelers wide receiver and the tweet says open for business. Cryptic. Open for business which is goal because now you're hearing where some of his teammates say, maybe this can be worked out, and you can come back to Pittsburgh after all of this everything that's happened. Maybe hey, I'm open for business or is he opened for business. Elsewhere. Yes. Mclovin. Open for business to me means I'm open to leave for somebody's. I've without any reason. Just feels like, oh, I want to go somewhere else is he asking for a trade? I think so. But you know, the sealers have set a couple of things that hint that they might be interested in bringing him back this week. There's been some cooling off of the feud. So maybe he's saying I I don't know. I mean who knows? Yeah. I'm just I'm trying to figure that out. You know of what he's trying to say what he what he wants you to understand about his situation but open for business. Not quite sure what that means. Yes. Satan O'Connor, isn't it possible that he just woke up and was like, hey, I'm up and open for business as a small retail shop. In the suburbs of Pittsburgh somewhere AM eastern. What do you what what exactly is he selling his business, Iraq, Paul? He has a cupcake shop. I don't know maybe Antonio Brown. He forgot to switch accounts or something. And the other one is his. Secondhand clothing store that he operates on the mclovin. Would you check on it? Does Antonio Brown of a small business that he's running that? He's he's open for business today. Actually, he's doesn't he wake up at like six in the morning and do some insane workout every morning and put it on Instagram. He's probably okay got three. But yet it could be. I mean who knows do you think he wants to leave their? I don't know. He's one of those guys when we only see him music at the Super Bowl any comes in and he lights up the room. And you've got a great smile, and he's got this big personality. But, you know, something happens with these guys like we met Carson Wentz at the Super Bowl in Houston, any came in these kind of goofy funny didn't seem like he was an egotistical guy. And he said he, you know, he's glad this season was over he wanted to go hunting. And then you read this story where you know, Nana sources in Philadelphia's teammates were talking about him and his ego. And you know, he'd changes the play and he plays. Favorites. And so you're never quite sure. I can Tonio Brown is a star. He looks like a star. He would be a guy that, you know, would be a lead singer a solo performer, and he would be a star. He has that charisma that star quality. But I don't know what it you know, these wide receivers they they are dependent on their quarterback. You gotta get me the ball. Are you looking my way you're having that in Philadelphia where feels like some of the other wide receivers weren't thrilled? That Carson Wentz would lock in to Zakar innards ended up with over one hundred catches feels like in Pittsburgh. Hey, we got some other guys got to keep them happy here. I got a tight end. I got ju ju I got you know, I can't I can't find it all the time. But a wide receivers mind is I'm always open. I've never met a wide receiver who said he wasn't open your point. I also wonder if Antonio Brown it's like, I just want a new stop here. I you know, when you go to a new town, they lavished praise on your the. Home fans by your jersey. It's like a refresher for your career, and he just wants to be anywhere else. It's not anti Steelers. It's like I want the relation of a new place. How can we say that anti sealers he skipped four practices? He's he owed at the team. Clearly. Yeah. Maybe for me. I feel like it's a shame. You can't quit on your to. You can be upset. I understand that. But you can't no show. 'cause 'cause now you're you've made it all about you. And you don't care about your teammates and your teammates trying for a playoff berth. You don't care. That's what you're saying. I put myself above you. Now, I wouldn't go to the extreme Peter King did and say I'm not going to vote for you for all pro or Pro Bowl honors. You know, he's still one of the best receivers in the game. But he was selfish at the end of the year. I would try to work it out because in what will you get in return if you trade into Neo Brown? Like a second round pick. If I'm the forty Niners. I go I come on in come on in. We're ready for you. Jimmy's. Happy to see you. He'll pick you up in the airport. Richard Sherman will pick you up in the airport. I would go all in and say come on in Yemen club. There is some people reported. I think we talked about it that he wants a new contract if that's what this is about. Yeah. That's and that's what always happens in the NFL. You know, he got paid big at the beginning of this contract. But it looks more moderate now. Yeah. But don't sign for five years. That's why why not do just a year to year. Now, they want their guaranteed money. I get that. But why not just year to year? If you're going to bet on yourself to say, I want I want Dell Beckham junior money. All right. And then at the end of this year, then we can talk about next year. If you wanna bet on yourself, and you don't want to have a contract. That's outdated bet on yourself, but they want that upfront money, and then all of a sudden, they get towards the end of the contract, and they go, wait a minute. It's not commensurate to what I do. And the other wide receivers that I, you know, I'm in competition with yes. But they why can't they try to leverage themselves. It's I mean, it's the only little bit of. Sort of power. They have over the situation. Why not be able to do that as a player? Yeah. But I don't want him to leave. Pittsburgh. And he's going to he's going to talk as way to go shade his way, it seems like out to Pittsburgh because his contract doesn't match up with these other wide receivers. I would love that they got guaranteed contracts. I would love that. Then they should of all the sports they deserve guaranteed money. But it's not going to happen. And if he wants to leverage this, then great he can it just he leverages himself out of Pittsburgh. And that's where I think it's a mistake. You want to go to San Francisco or you want to go to the jet. First of all Pittsburgh's not going to trade him in the AFC. Feels like if you're going to ship him out you're gonna ship him to the NFC. And maybe at San Francisco there around Robert in Wyoming joins us this morning. Hi, Robert, what do you have for me? I just wanted to talk about James harden a little bit. We gotta seriously think about maybe he being the most elite to our Scoring-wise of all time. You know, they talk about the free throws in the flop, and he's flops in his days, and okay, see and the free throws like that's what scores do they get, you know, they get to the line to get things going, and I just wanted to throw one more thing Jamal be enemy from the university of Oklahoma. Last night was he went six for six from the field to for two hundred free throw line, the euro turnovers in the game clinching still and I'll bedlam. Okay. So we'll go boomer sooner baby. Yeah. Thank you Robert for that update. I was wondering about Oklahoma basketball last night, Dan. Yeah. Paulie? What are you doing is a producer sleeping? Yeah. Obviously sky. Didn't miss a shot. From the field. Yes. Mclovin. I could ever take Oklahoma or even number one Tennessee basketball seriously to be those football schools. I don't care what this caller says the Icee has got good basketball this year. It's not just Kentucky. It's hard to believe it will ever Pat out though, because it never has grant Williams went twenty three for Twenty-three last night from the free throw line in the win against Vanderbilt. That's the second most free throw attempts without amiss in division. One history. I wasn't done with the stat of the day. Seaton's are the only player to attempt more without missing Oklahoma state's Arlen Clark. And I remember it. Well, March seventh nineteen fifty nine when he went twenty four for twenty four. Now, seton? Best out of the day stat of the day. Here comes that what status? Yes. A football school winning a title basketball, Florida ten years ago, Billy Donovan to back to back. You know, they were primarily football school had pretty good basketball. But they went on that little six year run. Yeah. Noah and those guys who else would be up there football school Ohio State when a head Greg Oden, Jimmy Jackson. They're very good. Yeah. Jimmy Jackson days, Michelle, Michigan, whether sort of a football school o kind of had more of a basketball school. Aren't they how that's cruel is? It is on the phone right now star. Okay. But who's had more success bigger success? Michigan's basketball team, they're football to the past generation in the past twenty years, right? Who else would be up there by Duke has a first round quarterback potentially Daniel Jones. So maybe that's a football Etta basketball school. But they haven't contended in football. You know, by the way, speaking of quarterbacks, Derek Carr. Derek Carr wants a piece of the guys from I take guess we'll talk about that. Very surprising. I wasn't sure if he was serious or not. But Derek Carr the raiders quarterback is calling out the guys from I take and playing right into their hands nineteen after the hour. We're back after this on the Dan Patrick show. Let me tell you about the best sounding most innovative headphones. 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Chris Carter is on the list at five Jerry Rice at four Marvin Harrison at three west Welker at two Antonio Brown. Number one Antonio Brown. Five year span had six hundred eighty six catches. Even more mazing Wes Welker and a five year period had six hundred seventy two so fourteen less receptions than Antonio Brown. Then it's Marvin Harrison, Jerry Rice and Chris Carter. I was also wondering about this with Larry FitzGerald coming back, so Larry FitzGerald, and I was looking at the quarterbacks that have thrown him passes aside from Kurt Warner. Who's he really had doesn't that make it even more amazing when you consider the numbers he's put up not necessarily an passing offense or having great quarterbacks or even a fellow wide receiver who was a great receiver or tight end to take the pressure off of him. Larry FitzGerald had Kurt Warner. But he didn't have Kurt Warner for a long time it John Skelton and some of those acts hall. Carson Palmer for a real small window. We L spa in that in that. He was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. But if I look at his quarterbacks like if you compared his quarterbacks to Jerry Rice's quarterbacks. And then I compare that to some of these other quarterbacks it's pretty impressive. You know, Tony Gonzalez. Did he have great quarterbacks hall of Famer Matt Ryan probably, but that wouldn't now was not the majority of his career Ojos he within Casey like try and green and those guys like Elvis Gurbachan? But then he also had Brody Crowell or a couple of weeks. I I don't know. I think Kurt Warner on Larry FitzGerald, Kurt Warner. And Carson Palmer threw him the most touchdown passes. Then you've got Josh mccown John Skelton, Kevin Cobb, Matt liner, Derek Aniston, drew Stanton. Blaine gabbert, max hall. Josh rosen. Yeah. Sandra? And as bad as all those quarterbacks were their offense was famously worst. Remember, they didn't invest in that for years. Yeah. You know? I it should be graded. Your your stats should be great at a little bit there. If you're a wide receiver who was throwing you the ball. I it's a little system argument. Dan, do you think Larry Fitzgerald's in a system? No, you're saying that he did that all these other great receivers or an assistant in. Larry's even more impressed this system once they had good quarterbacks. Yeah. If Larry FitzGerald was a patriot for his entire career. How many how many catches do you think he has? Does he have more than he has now? He would have been the ultimate slot receiver that could do more, you know, because it lasts seven eight years you'd kind of kind of a slot receiver short, man. Yeah. Because Larry FitzGerald had one hundred hundred and three catches at age twenty two and one hundred and nine catches at age thirty four he had a few like his down years are eighty two catches eighty catches, mclovin. If Jerry Rice desert hook up with Bill wash Joe Montana, Steve Young as he rewrite the record book five times over. No, no that helped him. He had a perfect system. Perfect storm. You had an offensive genius. You had the second greatest quarterback of all time. And you had Steve Young another hall of Famer in there. That's pretty good and he had respectable wide receiver. John Taylor was a good wide receiver. But they they had a system there with great quarter. The the system was you had great quarterbacks to throw the ball now with Jerry still a been a great wide receiver. Yes. But would he rewrite the record books? I don't think so. Like if he played for the Cleveland Browns is Jerry Rice going to be one of the all time greats. I don't know. I mean, we all Brady said if the cardinals drafted me things might have gone a lot differently. He told me if he was drafted in the first round, he he wouldn't still be in the league because he he wasn't ready in and you have to be ready when you're drafted in the first round, and you might have been a bust in. So Brady said I benefited from being behind Drew Bledsoe that that you know, I have a chip on my shoulder, and I had to work to be the starter. And then I became the starter. And even then he wasn't. He wasn't convinced himself that he was great others. Looked and said, yeah, I see greatness there. I remember when Brady one is first Super Bowl we were in New Orleans, and I remember we were talking about that the day after and I kept asking whoever we had on. Do you think Brady is going to be great? And everybody said, yes. Like, the NFL people said, yes. And this is really early by the way, because you know, put it in context. John Madden was doing the game. And John Madden said with I'm paraphrasing. But with a quarterback who's this inexperienced? I'm playing for overtime. I'm not going to try to win the Super Bowl here is basically what he's saying. Is you gotta play for overtime. You know in the final two minutes. This isn't the time that we're going to let Brady try to win this. Well, bell. Check let Brady try to win. It got into field goal range vegetarian kick the field goal. So that's that's John Madden assessing Brady because we still weren't. Sure. What Brady was who? He was. Yeah. Polling in two thousand one. Tom Brady's first playoffs. They went three zero obviously won the Super Bowl. He was a sixty two percent passer net postseason. He had one touchdown one interception. They were not crazy numbers are good numbers. And that's why John Madden was saying. What most of us thought just play for overtime and let your defense try to win this game for you. And he led Brady lead the two minute drill. And of course, you had Viteri kick in the game winning field goal. Doug in Montana joining us. Hi, doug. What do you have for me? I want to get to that. Derek Carr story where he calls out the guys from I take. Yes, doug. Good morning. Good morning. Quick comment. Quick comment on the on the PI. They have that rule where when there's intentional grounding the often don't throw the flag nail huddle up talk about where people were oftentimes they look up the Jumbotron then they throw the flag. Why can't we just do that with PI? It sounds simple. But you're not allowed to look at the Jumbotron, Doug. Now, you're not supposed to look at the Jumbotron. I just don't want to overhaul things just because of one bad call. And that's what everybody wants the chiefs didn't get a chance to get the ball in overtime to overhaul over to know because overtime worked in New Orleans. You may not have liked how we got to overtime. But it worked the Rams lost the toss they played defense. Got the interception kicked the field goal, and they want it can't sit. He didn't play defense. And when they did deformed was on sons. Derek Carr wants to fight the quote clowns on TV who think he's not a good quarterback. So the raiders quarterback is heard plenty of criticism after the team went four and twelve and six ten over the last two years. He was told that the host of I take at criticized him car wrote on Twitter that anyone listening to that criticism. Should consider the source. It's because I blocked them both for talking trash about our team. Those two clowns don't know anything about this game would love to actually sit in breakdown film with these two on TV just to show their viewers. How incompetent they are about our game. This is Derek Carr. Mild-mannered? Derek Carr Carden tweeted to UFC president Dana white saying he liked to get into the octagon with said clowns. Hey, how do I challenge? A couple of these clowns to a TV on TV to a fight. I think we should start a business together where pro athletes can challenge some of these people to an octagon fight until they give us an answer car road. Now, it's not a bad idea, by the way, and I agree with him that the guys on. I don't know. Oh football. Max Kellerman has been saying Tom Brady is finished for the last. How many years I mean, he's going to be right? Eventually. I mean, Tom eventually will not play anymore. And then he'll be correct. Stephen a has had some mistakes this year on dealing with rosters. I don't think they're big football fans, but their job is to bait. Derek carr. They did what they set out to do skip Bayless invented this. So you're playing right into their hands. Derek this is what they want. They want you to react remember when skip Bayless called out, Terrell. Suggs. Well came on the air next day, and it probably goes back to win. Jim Rome called out Jim ever calling him Chris Everett. So he goes on Jim Rome show. And Jim Everett says idear you to say it again, call me, Chris again and Rome called him, Chris. And then Jim Everett. Flip the table. And it was going to kill Rome. But Rome got the reaction and became a household name. Because of that now didn't look good during the process of it. But he got what he wanted. And that is to get under your skin. That's what skip Bayless tries to do. Now. That's when he calls out LeBron he'd love nothing better than LeBron to come on the show. And skip is made a career out of doing this. He's going to be the contrarian he wants to do this. He wants you to get upset. He wants a reaction whether he believes it or not he wants to get a reaction. And he probably doesn't believe what he's saying. A lot of the time. But he gets a reaction. I understand it. It's not something. I subscribe to. But that's his career. He may not like how I do this job. Stephen A wants you to react max Kellerman. They want you to react. So Derek Carr, you're playing right into their hands. Unless you're in on the bit. I'm gonna guess your contract with the raiders would preclude you from getting in the octagon, even though I like your chances in the octave. Gone. I like your chances against both of those guys in the octagon at the same time. Now, I might tune into that. But if Derek cars that upset play better, you'll shut them up. And you guys deserve to be criticized. Because of what you were on the cusp being a playoff team. I know you got injured. But now I can't hold him accountable for everything he's not the one who traded those players. But yes, the the artist formerly known as the raiders, yes, you deserve to be criticized. Now, if they're calling you out saying, you're not a good quarterback. Okay. I'd have a problem with that too. And you are a good quarterback. But the raiders are not a good team. And they called you out for whatever reason, I I don't watch the show. It's on when we do our show. The only thing I'm curious about when I see these shows is what are their topics and they're using the same topics the Cowboys and LeBron James and maybe Tom Brady, so they they're baiting these fan bases here. Stephen a calling out the Cowboys. I don't know what he was calling out the Cowboys. But he was calling out the Cowboys apparently. So you're just all you're doing is playing into their hands. That's what they want. They want you to react they want you to be upset. They want to tune in to see what is your argument against my team or my player gambling this little side. I'm still a big dare car guy. I think he's great. I I like him. I just don't think Jon Gruden is going to keep him. I just get that feeling that he's going to he's going to get a quarterback. He's gonna have a new quarterback by the time. He gets to Vegas that is not a negative on Derek Carr. It's just an opinion on Jon Gruden. Derek Carr last year four thousand yards sixty nine percent passer. Nineteen. Touchdowns. Ten picks know he's down in touchdowns. But after they dumped all those players, he's not awful. I mean, definitely no. He is a good quarterback two years ago. We did a poll at the end of the two thousand sixteen season. If you could start your team with any quarterback. Derek Carr won our poll that was two and a half years ago to actually it was two years ago. Gavin in Georgia joins us. I gaven. What do you have for me? Cool on Dan. I got a question. Okay. And my friend. We're having a debate the other day. All right. And it was about James Hardie. He said the James harden has more inefficient of scored than he is. And he gets a lot of credit as far there by saying. He's the greatest of all time now when when you actually look at it, he his his still go percentage in these games where he's going all this point is actually terrible. And he was gay. He gets to the line. So it makes up for his Bill. Go percents now is basically saying I mean, he does get to the line. You have a good point on the would if you didn't get to the line. But he does because he was trying to say to Klay Thompson as far as like scoring is way better. Klay Thompson Kanaya Klay. Thompson could not do James harden still if I put Klay Thompson on the rockets he would not be scoring anywhere near with James harden stone. He's not he's not that kind of player. And I mean, he's a he's a pick and pop guy. You know? I mean, James harden. He has to do this watch the games don't watch highlights. And don't listen to these shows where you have a haunt take watch the game. And you'll see he did try to throw the ball to teammates last night. They can't shoot. Not you're you're not winning with this style. You're surviving with this style. That's what James harden is doing. He's trying to keep the rockets in the mix for a home playoff. That's that's it. When you have Chris Paul back in Clint cappella, then his scoring. We'll go down it should go down. And maybe as field goal percentage. Does go up, but this is survival mode for James harden. But you know, let's not confuse Klay Thompson does with a team. That's got all these all stars there. And I'm gonna guess a lot of his shots or wide open. He's not beating somebody off the dribble creating off the dribble. Yes. Mclovin. But could hardly ever do it. Steph curry did and bring in a Durant and put himself to the side and share the ball. I don't know. I I don't I don't know. I don't think so. But he did lead the league in a cyst. So right because he had the ball in his hand. Okay. Russell westbrook. Led the league in assists. Right. They don't pass. They don't move the ball. That's why the warriors would never have the assist lead. I I mean, we can be hypothetical in our answer here and say, you know, I don't think he could. But I don't know, you know, you get to a point where statistically you've done everything. You wanna do you want an MVP? You're an all star. You wanna win and Jordan had somebody who told him this early. You know, you're a highlight reel Mike you got to win championships. He was gonna be the the great talent. But he wasn't gonna win anything. I mean, if you look back there, he took less money. He realized that I can take less money. I'm making all this money off the floor with Nike, and I can bring in other talent here or I can keep this talent here, and he was lucky that he had a great front office. Who was really good at finding the right people and that helped him and he had Phil Jackson. So you you had all those things come together. But Jordan had to realize I can get thirty seven. Tonight. Hell he could have gotten forty tonight. But what did it mean he had one of the greatest performances in playoff history against the Boston Celtics, and they lost. I mean Boston's looking at it going. I mean, this is great. He's awesome. But they're not a good team. In James harden is in that survival mode right now of trying to keep his team in the playoff mix. When we come back. Mclovin has a hot quarterback take that will upset us. I know it's a list from NFL dot com that I will guarantee you will get aggregate. Wait. Are they hot quarterback would arts pretty high? Are they good looking quarterback note? It's going to say what it ranking all sixty one Super Bowl quarterback. Quarterbacks who've been in the school. Okay. Onto sixty one. And you will get mad I prime go to get mad at one particular ranking. Yes. Okay. All right. Well, we'll have that for you coming up right after this. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing. You don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? 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I don't know skip very well when I was at the mothership, I didn't cross paths with him very often. He was always, you know, professional with me. I like Stephen I've been around him a lot and I like him. I think that he has made a great career. He's probably the most valuable voice at the mothership. And so I don't be grudges success. You know, some people said, you know, are you sound jealous? No, not at all. It's a different style. I chose to do this style. When I was at the mothership, and I hosted a radio show. I wasn't good at it. I I was doing sportscenter and doing the radio show, even though I love radio. I just didn't like what I was doing. Because I sounded like I was just a mouthpiece for the mothership and have just ESPN guest on. And I you know, I wasn't really putting my personality into it. So when we started the reincarnation when I left the mothership I wanted to do it differently. And it's. Based off of how Howard Stern does he show where it's a collaborative effort? And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to have guys that I liked being around. And we approached it in, you know, in a conversation. And you know, I wanted to have guys that I like, and I ended up with these guys. But you know, we somehow made it work over the last eleven years. But this is why I you know, if I continue to do it. It's because I enjoy doing it every day. I don't need to have a hot take. And I tell students at my broadcasting school. You don't have to have a hot take on everything have a hot take on something that you really believe in. And we get in trouble there times when I got I don't have an opinion on it. I need to know more about it before I have an opinion on. But you get in trouble. When everybody's got to have a hot take on something and Steven A and max, that's what they do. That's their job, and they do it. Well, skip and Shannon. That's that's how they do their job. Jim Rome calling cow. I heard they do it differently. But that's good. There should be variation. There is room for everybody. So I have no issue with Stephen already McLennan just gave me this. So this is all time Super Bowl quarterback rankings. Yeah. So the Greg Rosenthal, really good writer, NFL dot com ranks the Super Bowl resumes. So their entire careers of all sixty one quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl. This isn't how they played in the Super Bowl. Okay. This is their career. All right. So Tom Brady's number one. Yeah. He does tears by the way. So he has like goat tier second level except. Okay. You have to explain it's T I E R, right? Alright, not tears like crying tears for fears. So Tom Brady's number one all time number two on the list is Johnny United's. Okay. It's a you know that it was different football back then but what Johnny unite is creating the two minute drill. And. Yeah. All right. And he won. He won one Super Bowl. He lost. You know, the jets one on the losing end on the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Joe Montana is three on the list. Peyton Manning is four. Dan, Marino five Brett Favre is six. Now, I think you're going to be mad when you get to the next tier that some of those guys in the next here are not up with farve Marino Payton in the in the next year. Okay. Steve Young Aaron Rodgers John Elway Roger Staubach to breeze. Bart star. Elway should be higher. That's the one. I thought that you would always should be higher. Bart. Starr was great in his his Packers. Okay. He was I think great in one Super Bowl maybe at big numbers in both because they blew out Kansas City and the raiders, but Bart Starr was more of a field general. He didn't have great numbers. So it's weird to put him in there with this group B because Bart star Johnny United's. Bob, greasy. You know, that's different. It's a different style of quarterbacking. Although United is had really good numbers. But I just wouldn't put Bart star in there with these guys because it just a different game. What do you think about drew Brees being a little bit below say an Aaron Rodgers and a Steve Young? Well, we were talking about you know, drew Brees was the one quarterback who had the most to gain if he went to the Super Bowl and he won the Super Bowl. And, you know, do I think he's eleven on the list? No, I think you should be higher. You know, Terry Bradshaw. He was foreign over the Steelers. He sixteenth on the list. Joe Nemeth, it should not be. This is seventeen. You know as much as I love Joe, he's not he's not up there. Number seventeen you know, he orchestrated the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. But I give credit to their defense in their running game. You know, Joe Willie's was great. He was the real deal. I mean, he was he was that flamboyant guy just throat for more inter- more interceptions than touchdowns. I think Lenny Dawson's better than Joe Naboth. Bob. Greasy is eighteen Len Dawson nineteen Jim Kelly is twenty Kurt Warner twenty. One can Anderson Ken Anderson, you have to do your homework on it. And if you do you'll realize Kenny Anderson was a great quarterback. He was great quarterback. Kenny stabler is in there as well. Earl moral is twenty eighth ally. Twenty-ninth Steve McNair thirtieth. Russell Wilson junior. The third thirty first rich Gannon. All right. Whole place. Yes. Russell Wilson is thirty. I is visited clear is only halfway done. Yeah. I wonder now he's you know, he he'll end up being is one of the best starts in NFL history. He'll he'll be up there a lot harder. It's a list. You know, I'm not a big list guy. We need to have a list of the list that I don't like that's a long list a big list there. All right. Mike Florio will join us coming up final hour, Dan Patrick show. Move over YouTube. 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He'll join us coming up not much of a game last night but it was great to just have the noise. There thought the interviews that were interspersed throughout the game. They were great as well. The steelers beat the cowboys. Not quite sure about dak. Prescott injury feels like. There's a little bit more there than what they're letting on. And i'm not the only voice saying that troy aikman said that last night during the game there have been these reports. I'm going to have that not in capital letters. But there have been reports on shawn watson and are things starting to heat up. Are the eagles going to pony up. How many draft picks to get to shawn watson. Is it inevitable. There's something going to happen and everything that i've been told is. No nothing is inevitable. In fact mike. Florio reported on profootballtalk that. Hey the texans aren't even returning calls now. Jay glazer talked about this as well from fox sports that because people are low. Balling the texans for the shawn watson. The texans are just not returning those calls. You call leave a message. Hey you have a crappy offer for shawn watson. Leave a message after the beep. Because that's what's happening right now. They just don't want to engage. But the m you know something that's imminent with shawn wants it just not happening right now it because you know there's a great mystery here of is he going to be charged the indicted his. He's not deposed until february. I mean there's just so much going on here and what's the nfl do with him. But that was one of the stories last night the dak prescott injury. They say day to day but they don't know exactly what it is therefore it has to be day to day but it could be weeks. Two weeks could be don't know but the fact that the cowboys reached out to the texas rangers to ask about arm injuries that they've had with their pitchers. And is this something similar. That dak prescott is going through. That doesn't sound like it's a man. I warmed up. I warmed up a little awkward there. Then there's a little bit more attached to this. I think than what the cowboys are leading on. Let's see got our poll question. Mclovin had changed the third quarterback in the modern era. Your choices are john and peyton manning. Dan marino drew brees aaron rodgers for leaving anyone off. I gotta tell you always early leader on the third quarterback of all time. Nobody is doing that. Poll question today. Nobody our businesses asking. Who's the third best quarterback abol time. That's what i love about this. Show yes he. I don't want to jump ahead a whole hours of content but is the real question between four the fourth best quarterback of all time. It could be because. I think elway is either the second or third best quarterback of all time. Then that means. Obviously dan marino was for So are we jumping ahead to five hundred about peyton. Though at four sounds good with a five degrees. How about on monday. We'll have the sues the seventh best quarterback of all time breezes six. I don't know tune in and tune in on monday. The seventh best quarterback of all time stream the new peacock original series heart to heart where kevin hart sits down with today's biggest celebrities for unfiltered conversations. New episodes premiering every week. Go to pick tv. Dot com sign up now. Football's back at least a reasonable facsimile with the cowboys in steelers last night. The hall of fame game. I wanted to see it nausea harris for pittsburgh and they featured him early and often and it looks like he's going to be impactful player from day. One dwayne haskins getting a second shot as a backup quarterback in pittsburgh on dallas's side of the ledger here. I wanted to see mike parsons. He did not disappoint in fact he was told by the cowboys to slow it down a little bit. He was playing at like. It was week one of the nfl season. I think at ten tackles before halftime. But you know. The backups. There with cooper russian garrett gilbert and ben danu she if you're dallas fan you better that prescott stays healthy because that backup is there's no threatening backup there in dallas overall. It was sloppy. But that's okay. We have a lot of nfl every week until february thirteenth. It's just the beginning. It doesn't quite feel like summer. Should be coming to a close but the schedule doesn't lie. Ready or not. Football is here. So we'll talk to sal paolantonio coming up team. Usa versus france for the gold medal. Tonight that'll be a little bit before. Eleven o'clock eastern will talk to vince. Carter vince is covering basketball. Nbc and we'll talk to him coming up a little bit later on as well. Some phone calls here dane in texas. Leads us off this hour high dane. What's on your mind. Good morning dan. What was on my mind is. It was one of the funniest things i ever saw. Was when you were contemplating who the best college coach was who became the worst pro. Football coach really tanked it up in the pros and he was right in front of your face and he was raising the little hand as if to say call on me down. It was in nineteen seventy six jets coach lou holtz and you missed him. You overlook thank you dana. I i forgot about lou holtz. Who's by the way. This is arkansas. Lou people think this is bob knight. If you're watching the show that's lou holtz. His figurine is little doll. Yes i collect dolls. And i have the loophole bugbear parents waco but Yeah he didn't do. Well he basically quit on the jets. Bobby portray no basically no he did. Quit on the falcons. Nick sabin said if he knew he was gonna get drew. Brees miami then he would have stayed in the nfl. Yarmuk love lou holtz in nineteen seventy six three and eleven. It's the jets coach. Oh yeah not good to me. I don't think people realize how big a deal spurrier was. When he went to washington. That was as an eagles fan. I was terrified of that because he was so good. Let's see darren indiana darren. What's on your mind today. First time caller longtime listener. Thank you heard the previous caller talking about kenny anderson. Twelve twenty eight hundred four yard with so the most ethics passi and nfl district. We were between helmet. Dan house they were lighting it up nine hundred thousand your path him so i don't know where that getting. This statue kenny anderson. Yeah and thanks for the phone. Call darren look. I got a chance to watch. Kenny anderson because i was growing up in cincinnati. It's just the bengals. Were so bad. And kenny kenny. I think held the record for most consecutive completions. I don't think he's still holds. That it was like twenty one consecutive completions. He was a very good quarterback. Didn't didn't beat montana and the super bowl then. Nobody else beat montana but he was very good and check out the numbers on ken. Riley the defensive back for the bengals. I thought that he was a great defensive back. And maybe he gets hall of fame consideration. Yeah polling ken. Riley played his entire career for the bengals actually made all pro his last season at age. Thirty six he had sixty five interceptions. Top four five all time. Because paul krause does he still have the all time record. At eighty to eighty one eighty one. Riley i have riley is fifth. Yeah he was craig player it was. Just you got overshadowed by the steelers back then because the steelers were so donnie. Shell is going into the hall of fame. This weekend donnie. Shell didn't start for the steelers fulltime like that defense. Was that good. If you brought in an extra defensive back donnie. Show was the guy you brought in and he could play safety linebacker. It was just that steeler defense best defense ever saw. And here's a guy who couldn't make the starting lineup for a few years and he's going into the hall of fame paul and easy. Hi paul what's on your mind today. Hey dan good more than six five two zero five i. I'm longtime got a top free quarterback for you but i got an An idea for you to make money the what do you say. Sometimes you answer them you say what do you have to the to the person calling in nobody ever answers with paths blue ribbon. What do you have a pabst. Blue ribbon there. You go some money for you. There's an next six pierre. Thank you but My my quarterback is one that nobody is mentioned. And he's the one of the only two quarterbacks i think that's led the detroit lions to a playoff how it's gotten it's not be mentioned. I mean he's one of the greatest quarterback handing off football very huge sanders. One of the greatest running time and think paul has been drinking is pam slough rabat. But thank you. Paul except for a little bit of humor. They're very little bit. And i've come accustomed to that right you have. I appreciate very little humor. We get motivated or were motivated in different ways and the eagles are getting motivated in a way that i don't know if any other team is getting motivated has ever got motivated this way nick. Serianni is the eagles head coach. In case you didn't know and he had this to say about motivating his team in what they're watching our core value of his fundamentals and kobe. Cheers this video of kobayashi. And joey chestnut competing and they go and like. Why is kobayashi wise kobayashi. So good at eating hot dogs well the detail in the fundamentals that he puts into it. And you're laughing. He has to have the right temperature water to dunk the thing. He's got to break the hotdog perfectly in half and like so my point on that is we're all watching. It's like what's the point of that. If you wanna be the best in the world at what you do right on the football field it comes down to the little things and that right there was talk. So it's all those hot is it. Go i kind of what i want to get across. And there's just we learn from great players in the past and great teams in the past. We've said it here. A million times dan. Winning is in the details. It is in the hotdogs. That's a coach is talking about. Winning is in the details. Yes we love. And i'm a little confused like practice still going on right behind him. What's he doing talking to. The press should be watching practice. I don't know if anybody else. I'd that's something dan campbell. The lion's head coach would say you would expect that to come out of his mouth. But nick serianni who i don't know much about but you know. He's motivating his team by the attention to detail with the hotdog eating contest. Yes did you hear dan campbell the other day. He had this big cup of coffee and some guy just goes. How many coffees for you today. So you know starbucks better than i do. He has what. What's the biggest size of the bendy venti. That's like two cups of coffee right because it's so babia. He has a venti which is two cups of coffee with two shots in it and he has two of them any drinks that before noon. I like well before. That is eight cups of coffee correct. Basically yeah yeah with a lot of sugar in there to keep you going. Yeah but i feel like there's like office workers all over america. Who are like do that. And go. Sit in the cubicle and work on account receivable but i used to drink four vincis every morning on this show. Yeah so dan campbell. Has nothing on me. Did that from about. I would say oh four about four years ago. I've years maybe my wife just said look you you gotta gotta cut it in half at least half in and half. Yeah but i i. Now i have a full venti in then. I have half the venting. I'm having one and a half then. Tease every morning. But i used to drink four of those in the from seven thirty till noon. Yes he like oatmeal common. Milk almond milk all right. Yeah yes paul. When we'd be on the road on the west coast for this show. Let's say like a decade ago. Just let them behind the scenes. We would have to get up around three forty five in the morning to be on set and there's not a lot of starbucks open in the four to five. Am window just generally but People were assigned the find those starbucks and and it was whenever they're open. You'll be the first one. They're like help them open up and it would be like something we'd send somebody out at like five fifteen just to find the starbucks nearest to You know where we were broadcasting from yes and there would be nothing more crushing them. When you're like you're that guy and you're like oh no. There's a starbucks right down like two blocks from here. I'll go get it and you run over. And it's you know the one in the lobby of a bank or something clo- crammed oh during the pandemic. When the pandemic i happened we went on vacation for a week and i went up to vermont and i got up there and i was with the dog that was it just mean the dog and i just thought you know i gotta protect myself. I you know. Immune compromised here. So i just go up to remind stay and then the next thing i think of is. What am i going to starbucks. And there's no starbucks like they don't have brick and mortar starbucks in vermont. But they had one in a grocery store about forty five minutes away and They might have been in new hampshire. But i would just get the dog in the car we road trip. I'd go over. And i'd be forty five to an hour back. I'd have two of them. I'd finish them on the way back. And then i was. I was good to go. It's almost like you start to shake a little bit. Start to panic a little bit like ooh. What am. I gonna do about starbucks. When i went to the olympics and in sochi it's not like they're you know teaming with starbucks over in so cheap and then i find out that. Nbc had a starbucks in the commissary. Well you just go in there and you order. It was awesome. It was order your own. Venti skim chai. Yes book if someone were trying to give up a serious coffee addiction. Will you tell them to wean off over a long term or just cut it well. I went cold turkey on drinking coca cola and i had the shakes and headaches for about six weeks and i was drinking. Four twenty ounce bottles a night. When i was doing sportscenter. I would be wired. I would be on fire. When i got to sportscenter and then i would i would call on my god leave messages for paulie b twelve thirty in the morning and i'd be like let me 'cause i got a call people and then i would also play songs and then i would. I would try. Hit the post on the song. And i would do that into pauly's answering machine. The songs playing like. I knew the song was going to start and then i call leave a message and then all of a sudden i talk right up to the post and then i just leave these nonsensical you know thoughts on police answering machine ample. I will find the someday. Because i have been. But you're sitting there at the. It's on ninety-one south at the bottom was about to Do beautiful hit the post like. Nobody's freaking business. Yes i do things like twelve thirty five and forty eight degrees at light fm. Here's kenny g. And it's an hour drive like eighteen of these yes but i was so wired up and i get home and then i would have two beers in the span of about twenty minutes to then try to bring me back down now. Good times that's not going to have a lasting impact on my body new way by the way we have skewers today on the traeger grill and that is different than what we what we said. He has ops kebabs. It's the same thing it's like. A kebab is the concept of putting meat on sticks and vegetables. Skewer is the thing you put it. Some people say were finance obscure okay. So we have Barbecue chicken and pineapple skew. I don't like pineapple. Asian style grilled beef skewers yet. That's where it's at and spicy shrimp skewers. Who has it better than we do. Body take a break sal. Paolantonio is next an one hour vince. Carter will join us as we get ready for. The olympic gold medal game between the united states and france. Back after this. Dan patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out a basketball fans. If you're as pumped for the tokyo olympics as we are you're going to want to sign up for peacock the streaming service from nbc universal peacock. That's the home for us. 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I talked to mike mccarthy on sportscenter jones talk to the dallas media that kind of stuff minos now and i asked him What kind of advice or you know. I know you close to your players especially deck. And he's in he when he talked about decks injury then about how cautious they are being. He reached up under his arm and pointed to his latte muscle confirming that backs injury is not necessarily a shoulder elbow or arm issue. String black on the right side and he also confirmed that had happened when he threw a long hail. Mary passing practice this or four pack. This started when he got on the day he got hurt and as you know from latin injury. It's it's all about rest because it can impact your shoulder your arm army back your hip. Everything and that coming back from that gruesome leg injury. It's all about rest in icing it and getting some stimulation but the basic bottom line is read anything about it and get any kind of advice from the doctor. they'll tell you do nothing until it's completely healed. How much pressure do you think. We love to rank things people but as far as individuals with pressure on them. Where does dak prescott rank in your opinion. Pretty near the top of the list right Got the money has gone a lot of Components around him. They've invested a lot in. This team changed head. Coaches kept his offensive coordinator Obviously the gruesome leg injury that he suffered in week. Five last year resulted in growing six and ten when they were on their way. I mean the offense looks so good. And i really liked back. I think he's super tough He's obviously a very smart and capable player but he's just a great leader. That is one of the great leader's that we have in the nfl. Dan and i he's going to come out of this. He is totally committed to making sure that the injuries one hundred percent he understands. He's heard from the team. That coaches doctors that this is the kind of injury. Where if you you know are not fully healed and you re injure. It could really last for weeks and weeks on you sat down with ben rothlisberger what was the big takeaway from that. Well bench thirty nine. He's basically hitting the reset button. Like tom brady brady did it. When he was forty three went to a new team had a new offense and new offense coordinator. Here's at thirty nine. New offense coordinator new offense that canada is the new offensive coordinator and the dictum from ruby. On down is we will run the football. You know when you're last in the league and running the ball and they were weighed last in the league by a wide margin than in play action pass. And so if you're lesson league and running the ball and you're not providing any deception at all out of your running then they're just coming after you. Everybody knew they were going to throw it and they just ran out of gas as for how he looked. I thought he looked excellent. I really did. the ball. had great trajectory. The ball had terrific accuracy. Deep and short benji great passer his movement which is always great subtle in the pocket. Look good i was there on the day they were hitting. He wasn't touched. Obviously but that was a day where you know the energy was high and i thought that he really looks good and he sounded good a understands what he's up against really is taking the year-by-year years that one year weeks our belief. I wondered if they didn't think they could get a quarterback they wanted or they just didn't like the quarterbacks that were going to be available and that's why they decided to stay with ben. Well i think they decided to stay with ben because she's a two time super bowl champion. Best option yeah but you guys think. Start thinking about the future here. If you're pittsburgh you do and then you definitely do and You know they do. Have they do bring rain haskins reclamation project and if anybody can reach him. It's my tom one and there were saying all the right things about him now. I watched him in practice so watch them very closely last night. And when i watched him in practice they were implementing some of the stuff that he was doing last night over and over again. Canada had him rolling to his left and throwing outside the pocket and moving the so-called platform to launch platform for him You know partially that is because they've had some problems you know protecting the passer and the other thing is like athleticism. And he's turned into a very good passer outside the pocket on the move so You know they're working them to try to see. How committee is to dean. How is how we will take the coaching. How we will pick up this offense. And he's got the best of the best to learn from. I mean i just have a high regard for mike tomlin. I think he's one of the best coaches all time in the nfl. Ways hall of famer. If bill kaur is going in the hall of fame then so's my common and so he's been rothlisberger voter and you know that and i will vote. I balance both of them. Would you take a look. I don't know how this works. Is at the veterans committee that kenny anderson and ken riley who played for the bengals. I i don't have any. I have a platform. But i'm not a voter but i'm just curious how that works with players like that of just getting the attention of the voters and say is anybody talking about them. Has anybody spoke on their behalf. There's a huge cool of senior candidates and both of them are innocent okay and it's you know their names come up. There's definitely legitimate discussion about both. I can tell you from personal standpoint. I'm a big believer in cut. It agresson i think kenny anderson's should be an all the time i mean. I don't know what the debate will be about. Riley but i think anderson has been overlooked for way too long and should be that. Do you have any hesitation voting for eli manning none okay none whatsoever. I think You know i'll vote for him right from the start and he'll there'll be a discussion about him for sure. Man is going into all fan. He's gonna get in. I don't know if it's going to be first. Ballot might be a little bit of a struggle for the first year or two because of the debate that will go on about his career. But i will vote for him right away and i will push hard for him to go in and he should go in and who will go in talking to sal paolantonio from the mothership. Give me give me the player. Who's not in who should be boy. Who's not in who should be That would have to be tony. Boselli okay i think tony boselli you know is obviously injury history with that shoulder And length of service that he had. But we set a president with terrell davis with td but the broncos and but silly silly dan. I mean. I don't have to tell you when you watch the selley. He was just better than everybody in his era shutdown. Bruce smith He he was just great and he's very close very close to getting in it. And i'm not gonna make addiction because it's a very unpredictable room and you never know what's going to happen with the vote but i think tony boselli has a very good shot of getting in this year or next any whispers with deshaun watson you being based in philadelphia. I i don't know if the eagles are completely sold on jalen hurts doesn't seem like it. But what are the odds. You think that they take a run at shawn watson. Well the beautiful thing about working for. Espn is got. Chris mortensen it. Adam schefter so i'm gonna let them handle that. That's way beyond my patriot. As far as shown watson but i will tell you this about genuine hurts. I was there last. Friday talked with and one on one. And i talked to jail and it was the first one on one interview. He did and i watched him in practice. So he's trying to get his feet under him. In nick syriyani offsets and jalen is a tremendous athletic. Talent who last year was on pace to put us a great numbers now. Completion percentage. I understand below sixty percent. But that's just such a small sample size for dame's that shuts tremendous pressure cooker situation with kobe. Nineteen and carson wentz getting hurt and all of the controversy surrounding carson wentz so jalen hurts was thrown into the fire and passed all the tests. Pass the eye test passed. The leadership test passed teammate. Test was embraced by his teammates. And jalen hurts right now trying to got a new coach and a new system. It's going to be run heavy. They want him to be more over pocket. Passer you saw than the comments. He made last week where he said he's learning to appreciate. What the coaches want him to do while not sacrificing his athleticism and what are those code words for. I'm learning how to be a pocket passer. But i want to show off what i can do all. Leave you with this. Our poll question today is not. Who's the best quarterback second best quarterback in nfl history. Who is the third best quarterback of all time in your opinion Bart star so. I'm gonna go. Did i shock in asia. Yeah did i think yeah. Yeah i i'm going montana. Brady and bart star. I think montana's old time greatest If i had a game to win it would be montana game championship game. It would be joe montana. Tom brady would be number. Two and then board star look at his post-season numbers in record his his efficiency and production in the postseason and not offense was amazing and he had in my view. The most iconic quarterback sneak in football history. And the great thing about it as we now found out is that he audible. At the line of scrimmage he was supposed to hand it off. Chuck marsin decided not to do that. And then on his own that story. Yeah selfish me. I mean all the glory right so just just like bart stores personality. Exactly exactly. He was the john. Glenn of the nfl in the sixties and a brief story very brief i was with i was in a restaurant in atlanta and a super bowl. I don't remember what year was star was quietly having breakfast with his wife and every time she left the table he stood up helped her out of her chair and then when she came back to the table he stood up and put her back in her chair and pushed it back in. He was just the consummate gentleman even when nobody was looking. That's what the danettes do for me. When i get up from the table they stand up. And then when i come back and it's not they don't do it on their own. I basically order them that that you stand up and then when i come back then they all help me with my chair. That's sweet yes. It is very very heartwarming. Very heartwarming and by the way. I know if you had any vote on this but thank you to. Whoever voted on the roselle award with john. Because i i made it a mission that i just wanted people to a just. Let's reexamine this. And the fact. That steve sables going in his father's already in and i just thought you know make trilogy. The john deserved to be in the Pro football hall of fame. I'm i think it's wonderful. He'll be honored tonight. Why did it take so long. I don't think. I thought that he was in sal and then i said to make love and i said would you can see of. John does in he goes. He's not i go. We're right in a letter. And i wrote a letter to david baker and i just said just just bring this up so people know that john percent is not in the hall of fame and he said that he would and you know it's. It's awesome that john. You know that voice will be heard on those loudspeakers tonight and it will bring back a lot of memories for a lot of people there then. It'll be great. It was the voice of god and it was the soundtrack of our lives. Yeah yeah that's awesome Have fun this weekend. Always great to catch up with you. Sow thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me on the program. Dan that sal paolantonio the mothership always great to talk to so bart star third quarterback of all time. No but i. I love the passion there. Little bit of a curveball. Their bart was great. Those two super bowls what you were. I do think this is something. That's really hard to quantify. That's being a floor leader of floor. General of field general and i complimented alex smith and said that he he ran an offense in a similar way to guys like bob greasy and board star. Now he didn't like being called a you know kind of feel general because that meant you weren't graded passing but to be able to to run an offense and that's what it used to be. You ran an offense and now it's just different. It's you know you're you're throwing the ball but bart star. He wasn't asked to do much during the regular season. They had a good running game. Lombardi believed in running the football. Same the the dolphins say ran the ball dead three great running backs czanka kick and mercury morris and bob greasy was a field general and that sort of a lost art troy. Aikman was sort of like that. Like what do you need me to do and in today's quarterback has just basically. I'm going to be throwing the football but now being a field general. That's what bart starr was. Would you need me to do. We're not going to win this game by running the ball against the kansas city chiefs in super bowl. One we're going to throw the ball or super bowl to like. During the regular season bart star had a season. I think where through nine touchdowns in eighteen interceptions but when you got to a big game. He was a big game performer. We'll come back more phone calls coming up right after this. Dan patrick show. Thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. Hey this jason mcintyre join me every weekday morning on my podcast straight. Fire with jason mcintyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat. Every day straight fire gets you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines accurate stats to help you win big at the sports book and all the best guest. Do yourself a favor and listened to straight fire with jason mcintyre on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. 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Bradshaw for super bowls montana's value is high due to his championships but bradshaw doesn't seem to be held anywhere near the same regard. How close is aaron rodgers. If he keeps this up for the next couple of seasons i'd put roger staubach. It's three troy. Aikman asked to be in the conversation for number three all time. No because troy wouldn't even put himself in the conversation for that. Assuming it's brady and montana then manning followed by elway. Here's another one elway. Manning big ben out about that no no no no what else do we have. It's already mahomes. I say this as a die-hard broncos fan staring down the barrel facing him twice a year for the next decade mahomes does things no one has ever done. I'd hate to say that. Icm finishing with at least five rings puke but true okay. That's what you think. He's going to do an ability as well. But no mahomes not third best quarterback fall time. Who else gets mentioned here. Curtis painter curtis painter gonna mention there. A lotta joke mentioned like i'd hundreds of the match here's a couple it's gotta be cutler okay. Fair enough gardner. Minhsiu got a mention and so two derek carr. That's the poll question today. If you would like to take part you can. I actually put up. Who is the better car brothers. Aside poll question too. so that's the carr enter. Wait just kidding okay. All right why people feel compelled. We got about fifty backup quarterback for being way mowing arizona's back with this. What's on your mind. It's more money than they care for one. You can't put anybody above my panties four. No no interceptions okay. I'll give you the brady debate. Kind of like Jordan and kareem. Two toss up but number three Guys are forgetting about steve. Yeah i love steve but he known. I love steve but now he hall of famer. Ano- great you know. That's another argument. Where steve had five five great years and i know that he was in the us and then he was with tampa then he got there and i think he. He took over for montana age thirty. But if we start to look at these windows of trail. Davis gets in steve young. It's and then. I think we have to start looking at other positions because we love to look at longevity. I i understand that. But steve. Young and terrell davis got in. And they're probably looking at five years. Maybe maybe four years for terrell davis but they were great. That's where tony boselli if you say well he's alimany only played five great years okay. What's the difference in that position. And terrell davis and you know somebody else who had a an abbreviated career because of injuries. Gale sayers was spectacular abbreviated career because of injuries. You can't just pick and choose and go. Well he's a running back. I mean this is an offensive lineman a left tackle in an athlete. So that's where. I would argue that. Yes paulie steve. Young skiers really nuts his entire hall of fame. Resume is age thirty one to thirty six three time off for all pro seven time pro bowl or in seven years. Ledley percentage touchdowns quarterback rating like his. six years. Might be the best six years of any quarterback of all. I mean i mean i. Know percentage wise. Steve was the first guy remember who was completing look like close to seventy percent thirty one to thirty seven. He's proble every year history. Time all pro. He also had no losing seasons. As a starting quarterback zero losing seasons ninety four and forty nine and he led. The league and touchdown passes four times in his interceptions. Were always low. He also ran for like five thousand yards in in short window in his in his thirty s. Not in his twenties could've rushed for. How many years did he rush for in his career. Z like he's at four thousand yards and almost all came after the age of thirty he could've and back you know prior to thirty. He was a runner when he got to the forty niners. They were trying to keep him in the pocket and go through progressions. He could've rush for eight thousand yards in his career. I mean that's not a stretch. If he had gotten to the niners when he was younger he ran for his life in tampa but he was also in the usfl. But now steve young was great deal in west virginia. Hi dill. what's on your mind. Hey dan i know. Somebody mentioned law. Go but fran tarkenton. Never gets the credit. Should it all six one. Ninety nine pro bowls three time. Nfc champion quarterback fourth your quarterback rushing all time exciting this committee and didn't always have the best offense to but they it's very good receivers times and never gets credit. I don't think these lists. Yeah i remember that. I think it was three hundred and ten touchdown passes that he had i just remember like nobody will ever get to three hundred touchdown passes but if fran was if he was six feet now but he was a scrambler. 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Problems and Solutions

Two Old Dolfans - Miami Dolphins

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Problems and Solutions

"You're listening to dolphins talk dot com podcast network Hello and welcome to the two old dolphins podcast a proud member of the dolphin. Talk podcast network. Show is hosted by alec signs in meals. Scott low and welcome to tool dolphins podcast. How you doing this evening alex. I've survived the last Couple of days of the fiasco that we witness sunday. So i'm happy i'm here. I'm a bit beatdown myself. Takes every ounce of energy to be positive they they say things happen in threes right when you live and die by the dolphins like i used to when i was younger. I think it would be even worse than it was but it was kind of the culmination of three things. I don't want this to be like all negative podcast but we've got a gigantic elephant in the room and we talk about. I figured i'd start with a little story. We've sort of told it before and in the first episode that we ever did right how we met yes over twenty some years ago Closer to thirty than twenty point when louis. The coach was the quarterback still at that and at one point. I for interrupting. There's gotta but at one point. We were the winningest franchise in football ever since the merger of the afc with the nfc. So yeah you're damned. Good reason to be positive. I would go to a sports bar. It was much harder to see a game at home directtv right now And so you know. I'd map out where the game was gonna be and i was yelling at the tv. I was passionate. You know it was when we when we met. I was probably because not only. Was i wearing dolphins gear. But i was loud but the things i was yelling at the tv actually made football sense to some degree delivered with passion and stuff. Yes i gotta tell you. In my living room on sunday it was like a morgue all of that loud all of that passion all of that the yelling and the out loud analysis in all. You know everything that i used to do that. What made it so fun to watch the dolphins back then was just crushed underfoot and then just to you know poor lemon juice in the paper cut you know. Once again i got slaughtered in in fantasy. I guess that happens to tickets zero for your quarterback you're brave enough to start to. Yeah well we're dumb enough on the. I didn't have many choices. Let's put it that way. So and then. Last night. I tried out for an auditioned. The jam was fun. I addition for a new group A rock band. I was interested in becoming part of it was. It was pretty fun. But i didn't prepare enough. I ended up doing honeydew listings and other projects and fixing stuff and cooking. And of course you helped me poor. The the the concrete slab that needed to be done. And i just never got to the rehearsing so and then of course i found out today They didn't choose me as drummer so their loss. Yeah i yeah. Yep yep so it's just things come in threes and william william three things in three days not to not so great. So let's let's overcome and get past that and get directly into this game. The first set of downs that we had the ball set the tone for the entire game. When you say yes yes. The first play from scrimmage sazak. The third play from scrimmage was a sack And then a bad punt which was returned to the forty so and you know in a repeat from last week there. I play no there. I play was little different a little different. Yeah all right in my notes. It just says single terry runs on their first. Play was an incomplete pass today which i got really happy. I said look. We're we're blanketing him. And then the settler play was the forty. Six yard unabated run for a touchdown for by single terry similar to what happened with the new england where they ran thirty five yards On the first play He he just busted busted us for for forty six plays in a touchdown immediately. We're down seven zero. So but scotty let's go back to that first drive sugar. The dolphins will quick it was. It was borderline insulting. Would they were doing. Because they're saying we're going to blitz the hell out of you. You're not going to solve this problem and you're not ready for not ready for us. We're we we scouted you figure out what you want. We're not gonna let you go through. Your progressions is bottom. Line is we're going to blitz you. We're gonna get you and there's nothing you can do about it. We know where the weak points on your your line is. We know you're in a lack of capacity for being able to read you know angles. You know i gotta ask you. Because i heard a lot of people. Even some national pundits say you know it's too that two sacks i two sacks to his fall no way because he didn't make a read no emma db no way you know in. Maybe this is just old school but didn't dissenter. Call out the protections. The mike linebacker the protection package wasn't at the centers jaws. We had a running back back there that had to pick up those blitz. And we're gonna talk about that because gasping now okay. Gaskin has been horrific. I looked at his pro football rating for pass protection and it's like thirteen like negative. That's it's horrific with every single john. He's given up seven pressures this year. The only guidance given up more pressure than him is. We're going to talk about nano mr jackson. Oh mr jackson's giving up nine pressures. He gave up like eight or nine in this game alone. So so i. That's the people who you you need to be blaming. Not not to faulty. Didn't you have a second to breath. Even if you wanted to throw the ball. They were cutting off. I is. I believe me i was getting there. I was commenting on public opinion and it seems like people are just so easy to launch those rockets. It's it's the cheap easy way to to blame the quarterback so maybe he didn't make read he should have made but in the end. It's one boom unblocked when guys come at you unblocked when guys beat their balking scheme right out of the gate got both sacks where were the guys. Were not touched. There was nobody like they are even touch them. That's how you get more touching and flag football than this. It was it was it was sad and that is the reason why i get so pissed and were later on. We should ask the question. Will we ever win a super bowl. Would we ever win the super bowl with this front office. Will we ever ever. The front office is another issue. But let's say Let's say this front office leaves tomorrow. New front office comes in and to as our quarterback can we win a super bowl. And i'll answer that question so moving onto the game. They scored a touchdown and we get the ball back right. Yeah so this time. We actually moved the ball a little But it was apparent there was pressure onto every play. He had no time and we made our first go for it on fourth and to do you know happened on this play. One of our starting lineman completely whiffed on a block Davis yep our our captain by the way and he's our offensive captain. He got any guy the guy by the team. The guy who should have been our captain gets killed by him yes yep and this also is the end of two For the day. And you know we got to elaborate on that a little bit because the i hate to be addressing social media or even our own group. But everybody's saying to us too fragile too small to this. I don't give a damn work. Quarterbacks out there the hit that he took was so brutal. I'd like to see tom. Brady take that hit. He'll be hospitalized. Okay i understand. A bigger quarterback can take some hits much better but not when a guy is coming at you on abate it within a second and just crashes launching into you landing on top of you which by the way you weren't allowed to come down with your full weight on a player i i do remember us getting called that penalty a few times in in the past so. Yeah i mean it was. It was nothing. I mean roberts got call for mickey mouse. Play that you. He was being blocked into into jones. Last night was on his way down. Yeah and this guy drives imp- pile drives him into the ground. All no call. So i you know again the haters all that about two and believe me i have my criticisms of some things have to but that kind of a hit that that kid took. I don't see any quarterback that's gonna walk away out. That's nothing yeah. I how is he going to have a shot. How's he going to develop at all behind this offensive line. Ju- breeze a few years ago took a hit. I remember that didn't look to me as vicious as this. And he was out for what six eight weeks i remember. Come on okay so to it gets taken on a cart Bills have the ball and we get to see x. get burned by sander's kinda strange. Yeah yeah we did. Get a little pressure on alan. We chased him out of the pocket but then as this happens he throws cross body back to the middle of the field which is supposed to be a big no. No to perpetuate a joke. One of my coaches once told me you shouldn't throw the ball into the middle after being on the for a long time especially cross body. Yeah doesn't work very well. At least we didn't have that awful of the analysis. They're pretty decent. And then you know it was a touchdown so fourteen nothing buffalo. And by the way I blame x. for this one too. I don't know what was in his head but he quit on the play goes Digs fell down in the end zone and then x. just pulled up while diggs got back up and ran open wide open. You know overall. Are you know we're going to go through the whole game. But i i think our defense really played outstanding outstanding. If i would have given you some of the numbers that i saw the end of this game and that i was analyzing i i think our defense we had a little lapse here and there but jesus i mean we're on the field. Oh you know seemed like the whole game and yet we control the clock but he looked like they were controlling us left and right and it really wasn't the case it was that we kept. We kept shooting ourselves in the foot or especially offense so percent marches onto the field. Well now we've got a bigger quarterback. Maybe he can take a hit or to Almost maybe yeah. And he almost got killed on this dr sacked for yet. Another three and out Is i was resolved ghanem. Russo ended up with two sacks five tackles he had a hell of a game And where was phillips who we feel from the same team Earlier in the draft. So far i mean if i just go into the numbers i mean. He had like one tackle. I think the whole game That's it no pressure nothing either this. We're not scheming him. Well or whatever's happening but right now it's it's pretty obvious that rousseau would have been a better choice so far. Hopefully that's gonna change. Yeah well. I don't think you think it's going to change. I was a rousseau. you know. Probably his biggest fan out there. I mean they remember. I heard about it for years. Guy needs semi has sure just because of all the plugs gay for him I love the guy. And i think he's a very polite hard worker but he's a bill and i'm not i'm wanna root for him when he plays other teams somewhat But i never roofer for him to win so but he's he showed a lot of hard. He played really strong but so did the entire buffalo defense. They scheme was perfect. Yes the shit out of us they did. And you know that's the one thing. I really again fell in this trap that i really thought we were going to allow you know not coaching but coach par with them and we didn't come close so after two weeks you know we'll just pause and say what do you think of our two. Oh see Now that we've had two weeks to check our offensive dual offense coordinator situation. Well i'll tell you this or averaging four and a half points each pretty much pretty much. What they're averaging for the season Little bit a little bit on the to feel goes each seventeen points in two games. That's what they've mustard. Okay and not only that. The offense just looks like a shell. It looks on unimaginative. The the the receivers have forgotten how to catch the ball. It's just that was something that just blew my mind. Two we had plenty of opportunities including touchdown touchdown. About how about the one that Wilson dropped he wasn't gonna caught that ball and jumped on the ground just crawled in. Nobody was around him. Dropped it parker dropped and it was guilty all the way round ups all over the place so waddell. You can't bottled water. Wally draw dot. He dropped out before the halftime. Yeah i'm getting ahead of ourselves. So i know so. Let's just go. Yeah honestly this is so. We don't even have to walk the game like we usually do. I just have some notes. And things i want to say and so that's why i refer but let's ask you another question right. I was sure that grant was not going to be on this team. Based on money on contract on you know maybe get something out of him in a trade that we had other plans for special teams in you know. So we're grant skillset is special teams. I said last season. You know what i don't wanna see him on the field as a wide receiver anymore. The only way that happens is as an emergency. You know. he's he may be quick but he's super small and he's got stone hands dropping especially in critical. Right after wilson drops a sure touchdown we hid grant and guys. I don't know man. I mean the guy who's fighting for extra yards and he fumbles. We don't see him the rest of the day's not on specialty now because then the special teams waddell and again people say we don't want to see our receiver out there bs. He's a rookie. Put them out there. If he's going to give us a spark in this case he gave us a big negative a big negative as he drops a damn punt. Grant's been gr. He's been near great. So why not use them to his strength and just relegated. I agree but i'm not to be the coaching staff on that one because if they see waldo can break one and they need. The team needed a spark. That's what they were looking at but grant could provide that spark. You're right you're right. So get this ari. I think that's a bad coaching decision. Whole damn game a long. We'll be here for for ten hours now. I wanna i wanna give your own baker props. Because he forced moss to fumble. It would have been great if we didn't see moss for the rest of the day because he ended up punching his in the mouth a couple times. He's such is such a violent run and holland seems to be a guy with a nose for the ball. He ended up with that the with the ball. And he's always around the place. So you know as critical as we we are have been are gonna be of our front office and greer holland. Looks like he may end up being something. That's so early. It's so early but but but The key would our team as we did get three church. Well we got two turnovers. We gave them the ball three times. in the first half i believe all of them You know we holland holland is is one of those players is starting to rise up and his ratings is starting to get stronger and stronger in in pro football focus and really looking like we got ourselves a in this kid. Yeah yeah. I like him. I think we're lucky on the field. Let's see more of him. Let's put him in a position to succeed. moving on. we actually got a taunting call against the bills that i had a comment on because i thought it was terribly weak. Comment was can you. Please let these guys play football. It's an emotional game. it's physical it's hard hitting. it's painful. I remember the pain playing football. I was pain all the time. Well the the guy made a play and he stood up and he did like you know the right. Yeah and a flag on com- on stop doing this to the nfl. I took the penalty happily. 'cause we needed we needed it every weekend. Yeah cheap call. Yeah so i just. I commented on. Because i don't like this brand of football that it anyways. There's some things that should be called but that that type of thing has got to be allowed as part of the game so fun. This is the drive where reset floated. One and terrible pass intercepted. Had that been a bull over the shoulder. You know whatever it would have been complete for a big game but it just floated up there. You could see the gave the corner at the time to break off his coverage turnaround run back. The receiver didn't know the guy was coming behind him. So it's not like you get accused him of stepping back and being aggressive and reaching for the ball he just no. I mean besides visit percent had forty passes completed twenty four for one hundred sixty nine yards one interception. It was brutal it was awful. It was brutal. I it really. Those are the kind of numbers that we wanted to see to get towards right now. The the passing wise yardage sucks is awful. I mean it's awful. I'm talking about attempts. Yeah the attempts. Yeah we'd like to see that and well well look at the whole game. I mean the rest of the game was a fiasco but if you look at the the the gist of this game and important parts of the this matchup total yards to tell you before the game started. We're going to hold First of all we're gonna hold the entire team to three hundred and fourteen yards passing. It's not awesome but it's awesome. It's it's buffalo. we'll right who is crossing tattooed us for five hundred. You're right and then we say of those passing yards. They're going to do one hundred seventy one yards passing. You're going to go like holy shit. We just killed them. We just crushed us that we we did it. We actually have with the offense. We have on but not with his office. But but that's what i'm saying. The defense held his own. We held the ball for thirty one minutes. They held it for twenty eight. We change so we we actually. I'll play them there. They rushed for one hundred and forty three yards literally forty five of those on the first play now after that we held them to one hundred yards the rest of the game. I mean we on thirty attempts so basically not that great but not not super bad but the passing we held we held them. We we really held our own. I really think our defense that enough effort that we should one this. Don't you think it's odd. Here's another comment from my notes that it was the middle to late second quarter of our second game before are quote unquote star tight end catches his first ball. Now there's no star. Tithing stop stopping. People are saying seki was the next coming right. This of what. I saw listed as one of the top five joe. Rogan's tight ends having super high expectations. That don't know football because seki is not a sec. He's not being used that way. And it's not it's not going to happen. I don't know whether this is a comment on his improvement as a player or just how bad our entire team blocks the path. Hey look you wanna talk about who are best past locker is oh god yes we will but before i talk about now. We're in the subjects of tight in hundred long was inactive. Just like noah or our number one pick for last year and last year was inactive for the second draft is looking like a major major slop and and that was a draft was critical is it was the one that everyone was cheering. Greer on. Oh you made this trade. And you set up the perfect condition for rebuil- blah blah blah that he had to draft. Yeah he had to actually know tonsil- trade but terrible at at all those picks he's gonna hit a fifty percent. Look we we talked about the tight end real quick here close to loop hunter long inactive i mean but all those other titans in their smyth was in there and carter cart harder. That's crazy. I mean what's what's amazing is hunting. Shane look great. I mean his blocking has been outstanding. Okay and People have their things with him with the vaccine. Whatever that's his damn choice. He went out there. He balled out. He blocks like crazy something that consecutive ought to do just. I'm just amazed because hunter long we we invested capital of a third round. Pick on this kid. When we could have had a running back we could have had so many other people. Come and help us. And he's an active. They'll get it. I don't get it. But i know what he is an active so because he sucks yup and god. I means what an athlete can't look. Here's our blocking okay. Robert jones rated us our best blocker. And that's interesting because he only played like whatever you know three place here and three four plays and running barely had any place but he made it out at seventy six. I can burg rate it in rated out at sixty four point four. It's time to get that kid in their place if somebody else and he's not start. He only went in because davis got hurt. Who after you almost killed two okay. Then the leader came over when he whipped hang now but then came in right at sixty point two and he's ready to number one nineteen. I can burn number one hundred. The one thing. I worry about dealer is is. Is he the commander of that line. Not even the captain. While i know he's not a captain is the commander he's nothing is at the centers job. I already mentioned that. That's not what it is. But i don't know i don't know i mean obviously nobody's calling these blitz davis's but hunter long came in with fifty six point three. I launched us me. Robert robert hunt wrote and then at forty two us to jackson at thirty five and davis at forty one. I mean they all suck except for except for and he's starting starting. It's amazing. I mean i don't know what the hell are. Coaches are looking at when this kid i mean we keep moving them around nowhere where we put him he does. Well yeah. i'm a little confused about the overall approach to starting and where people are going you. The preseason certainly didn't line us up very well with. Who's going to start where you know. The preseason is for seeing what people's capabilities are another position. So i guess. I'll countermand what i just said. I read a thing on limb jean-pierre today that said he was like really young co- thirty four years old. Yeah and the. Everybody loves him that he's like an outstanding dude and and so he can't pick out. Starting lineup. I just can't help. I worked for the french at some point. So i don't have an overall positive attitude just based on my like. I said he's probably. Is he ready to surrender. I don't know man. But i can tell you one thing to get the guy. The guy never had a head coach an office of line. Coaching job at this level and it might be an might be in over. His head has our fourth coach in three years. Yeah that's just the thing right. So all this stuff around the staff and the coaching and and i don't i don't feel as knowledgeable about what's going on as i used to. It's all cloak-and-dagger and who's responsible and wanna disaster like this comes. I mean a fan's perspective is to point the finger blah blah blah but we're analysts to appoint i mean you know it's a hobby for us We don't have access to gain film and stuff like that but we do with eff. now. I guess and i'm just you know let we'll talk about what we think we have to solve it. What what approaches we might take. But i'm sitting there in dead silence. You can hear a pin drop in my living room. And i'm like what the hell are we going to do at that point. The line the line definitely. We were all concerned about the line. We you and i talked about in this podcast several times. The offensive line was our primary concern. But now i'm having my concerns about the you know everything from our front office to our coaching. Because when you got a kid like i can burn. That looks like he can play and he's not playing and take an injury to get him in. I don't know what's going on. And then we keep bringing jackson out. There and jackson is rating the one of the worst lion in football. And we we keep out there. And he doesn't lose his job. He keeps playing the game. And he's getting our quarterbacks killed a scientific birkhead left he needs to be yanked. He needs to ground and and reestablish himself and i dunno get stronger and smarter i. I don't know be coached all that stuff. Chance of coming back coach him up. Whatever it is but you know what you cannot keep them on that field disgusting that they have him on the field and that he's performing that poor little today was rumor mill around shuffling the offensive line. They have something. There has to be changed. You can't just keep from the same thing out there and expect things to get better right. I mean it's got little. What are we have. This is scoring league. Obviously we have eichenberger. He needs to go in there. He needs to go left tackle in hunt at right tackle. I don't know why the hell we're not doing that. Hunt played damn well last year tackle. And so what about kenley. Do we stick david. I will keep an eye would put kenley left. Guard guard left guard and maybe davis at right guard. Let's say that's one of the formulas i saw today. Well that's the one. I like this one i feel i just say jackson whatever equation you wanna do. I heard one about putting jackson guard. I wanna throw up. You know out. He's gotta be out if this is for a while until i until so consistent in practice that they're like okay he's now dominating we're ready to put them back in whatever. Yeah until until that moment happens in the light goes on but we cannot keep this this weakness on our team at this level now so i still want to give a little props to the defense at this point. I know i know you started to in the end. We kept giving buffalo all these chances in the second quarter in the defense just kept shutting them down and it was a variety of people making plays you know. I picked on exit couple times but he had a pick. Scotty even that turnover nice pick even the turnover right before half day. We put them in a prime position to scoring defense. Did the job. God bless getting into a by the way the backfield getting pressure on agua has right now number. Twenty one in football force the bed throw he's rating seventy eight point two by pro football focus games him and van van gingko number thirty five. I mean that bad. Oslo warranted the rare success stories for free he was he was he was he is. The is the jones by we paid. We paid so much for john. Yes you byron jones. Yes here we go second half You know there's lots of cliches. The wheels came off the bus. There you know The train caught on fire in the second half garbage can whatever. The second half was a complete fiasco. Okay i mean it was from giving up a touchdown right there. Eight play seventy five yards. Total dominance and then the rest of the time basically they just cruised. We lost the ball down. So you know again a couple of times. Yeah we can't we went for. We went for it on fourth down three times in this game for thrilled every time. Our offense is an achilles heel. I mean we're we're averaging under nine points a game and the arkell run on fourth and two brown made me want to throw up for two reasons one. I hate the call to begin with to. Isn't brown's kind of tagged or identified as our power back by our coach so he got off tackle And had one person to beat for yards a defensive back and he got if you are a power back. Aren't you running through that guy for at least three yards for a first down there. What else touched him. Only number twenty the defensive back. But i think touched him. I think brought him right down scott right after that that that is not a power back but after that happened later on the game i saw braun run authority really strong and he finally got. What is it didn't matter but the point is maybe somebody says you know what buddy. We didn't bring you here to to be tackled by by some hundred and eighty pound defensive back we brought you in here to be a power back and break through that and he started running like the real men. I wanna tell you something else about about brown. Tell me his past with positive okay. His pass protection off the charts pro. Football focus has him like in the high eighties. Okay i mean he is blocking. Efficiency is off the charts. I mean so my thinking when we get to it he's going to be involved in part of our solution going forward because it's important. He's really blocking while protecting the quarterback and he was known for that. You know. remember we talked about that. He was supposedly known for that and his his numbers show eighty four. I believe it is use them as that. Every once in awhile is surprised. The defense with i said delete hand up. I'm always hated those shovel. The number of the marie asked the shovel member marino breaking that out with. we don't have a home freeze. I haven't seen us do a shovel pass in a million years. I saw someone else. Do it the kansas city. Does it all the time. Yeah it's a version of it. Yeah just and and green bay ran. I was gonna say i've seen rogers. Roger does it too. yeah. I miss that nice. It was exciting. It was different. It was took people by surprise when we took. We got one of early free agents moves in. Nfl was when we got humphries from from denver and that's what we used them for so little history again or anything else from the game. I saw some more pressure. Ogbeh and van kinkel met at allen in the backfield at one point for a sack to end a drive. Our best best rushers. Another another important and wilkins has been giving a pretty good pass. Rush wilkins has been coming in from. He's them rated number. Twenty one in pass rushing from from the tackle position he is rating seventy one point five. He's doing great so sigler I mean we really you know. I think our line is solid. When davis comes back really solid defensively not cost us to lose this game. Yeah yeah so. I said that the the first down is that the refs gave the bills at this point another questionable call but doesn't just. Hey let's just keep giving bills opportunity to keep scoring ogbeh. Alan rate as he released the ball looked like a good hit to me. He didn't land on him or follow through like they did on tour. You know he kind of put his arm down and and baird the weight of his own body and rolled over him and they still do the flag so you know for our defensive. Play this just not at the point. Is this equitable. Just doesn't to me this bogus taunting make up for but at the end the day. Buffalo buffalo coach outplayed us out that everything. How what do we do going forward. Are we done with this game. Because i'm i'm done with this game yet. One more okay. So three times. I saw x. Get smoked last. Just a little concerned about he had a peck and he should had to. He won but it's okay. He smelled them on a fifty one yard pass. Although smoked is the wrong word. I mean he had pretty tight coverage in digs made a spectacular catch. And we gotta give allan props listened. Now i'm done a great. Because i'm done with this game. But but you know allan allan is a good quarterback. They're a good team. They're gonna get there's At the end of the day. Like i said our defense that everything to make this game victory and we talked about it before lasts less than a last podcast. Said we weren't gonna win this damn thing scoring seventeen points. We're sure as hell not going to win. It's point zero addicted a lost but neither one of us not seeking shellacking nut this that this spanking not this embarrassment the lack of respect. And you know one thing that pissed me off. I'll leave this game. We'll we'll get off the subject but how they kept passing the ball in us late in the game. They kept trying to work harbaugh coaching. They thought they wanted to stick it to us and they wanted to embarrass. Read the game against them this year. But the ravens. They do that every time. I do that all the time. But i mean that's still coaching college punk. But but you know in the nfl. You gotta show more class than that. And i was really surprised at the lack of class that these guys showed And i hope walk and i for team has damn long memories and some damn pride that next time we play them. We correct some of this but anyway so how do we correct the problems going forward and should we answer that the golden question. Can we win with tour. Sure i have an opinion who wants to go. I well you're all lined up your stacked up. You know what it is man. I took a look back at at three super bowl hall of fame. Quarterbacks and i looked at their super bowls yes. And let's start with the only quarterback to win super bowls in miami bob greasy. Yep okay super bowl. Seven eight you want me to do both or just one. Pick one for both. Okay super bowls seventy undefeated year. He passed the ball eight times. Eleven times completed. Eight for eighty eight yards dominated. It was a totally different game. We had different type of team. We play to our strength the next year we want again. He threw the ball seven times completed. Six of them for seventy three yards. That's amazing okay. Okay we say well different time. Different arrow new. You're gonna say that about the running game and we had songkok mercury all this great guys kick but now let's talk. Let's go to super bowl. Thirty two and john elway superbowl champion right. Yeah hall of famer on his arm that they dominated aid. He passed the boston and run game. He passed about twenty two times completed twelve of them for one hundred twenty three yards for a quarterback rating of fifty one point nine. Let's go to peyton manning pretty good quarterback hall of famer super bowl fifty. Now we're talking about just went literally from eight to thirty to twenty four years and from thirty to fifty eighteen years. We're going back in football right a lot of years right and back and forth okay. Manning isn't that long ago the so let's look at manning. Thirteen completion of twenty three passes for one hundred and forty one yards. And i remember those floaters and ducks that he was throwing at that point. His arm was pretty much dead. Fifty six points in mind. He still had the brain now. But in those four. Super bowls scotty. Four soup four superbowls. That were one. Right how many touchdown passes you think were thrown. Take a guess. You're on the spot. A four super bowls four hall of famers four super bowl victories harmony touchdown passes thrown one one by bob greasy. That's it to jim manage. I think was right. Okay my brain works. So here's my point guys. Why did we go through that. Exercise is because to and we can go into the names of the lesser known. The bad johnson's of the world rippin in yeah mark. Okay doug williams well doug helga quarterback okay. I liked him. I always day. Trent dilfer There's a guy. Lots of are mediocre. Guys have one super bowl. Other parts of their team were spectacular. And i i don't think to. We have to be that spectacular. I think we need to have a better obvious offensive line. Yes we need to have an alpha number one receiver which we don't have if i asked you today. Who's our number one receiver. Who would you say we don't have one is what i would say. Yeah but but but would you. you'll start thinking fuller. He hasn't even played a game. Not a down a down. I wouldn't answer for okay park. No maybe six games from now. I'll see fuller. Parker parker parker's got decent numbers. But he's he's not a number one receiver no water not even close. He's still has separation issues wattle. no he's got a number one. He's a nicer complimentary. Received right. he's not a number one credible. And are you going to beat the chase drum again. No what i want to say. We need someone like that. We need a person like that that we've already blown the opportunity to get jays that we can we. Can we what we need to get that kind of a guy like that. We need to also definitely surround to with a better offensive line. Every four other people say oh the formula for getting a bunch of weapons for two is not the answer we. We've seen that. We didn't get the right weapons. No that's the issue the issue is we need to move forward. That's part of the forward solutions. Okay and i looked at solutions. Okay can to a win the super bowl. I answer to that is one hundred percent. Yes i totally agree with you. Point to as the number one evidence when he had a good offensive line and weapons he awfully dominated in alabama. Everybody called them the second coming of whatever. Yeah he was the best so if we can give them that line and weapons then he'll and really we're only one weapon or maybe two away because the one is the number one receiver and the maybe is featured running back. But that's a maybe and even the fashion running out that look. Kansas city has proven that does not that important the ravens have proven that that that important your scheme we need without that office of line. You got nothing zero right okay. We have been trying to fix that offensive line with every gm that we've had since jimmy johnson a you know what the the vested capital that we've this group has put in the last two years in offensive line draft choices and an free agent draft choices. Although this year's free agent attempt was the lamest i've ever met last year last year was flowers and then we cut him and now he's starting and playing. Well now. why did we cut them. I don't know. I never figured that one out. It seemed weird. It's it seemed like it was a money issue. I don't know but you know i. We weren't paying them that much and we didn't save that much while he was a free agent and we paid But yeah we didn't save anything by cutting him. It's unbelievable everybody kept saying no because it wasn't terrible and the excuse. We were us that we were told. Is that well. Our young guys have developed so much that we need to remember that. But that's a lie. That's a lie. Who says that though. Yeah we heard his media. Everybody say a young is developing so much. Mondo didn't see you know. He did not but he's okay to negatively but moving forward. I can't read them now. But look bullying forward What solutions let's look though so long term solutions. Let's talk about short term solutions. Well we do have to be agile about the offensive line. Look at the stats. Look at the numbers. Look at. who's performing rendez. Make some adjustments and put the best combination on the field number stored eichenberger. Stop this shit. How can we not start a guy who rated our best lineman and week one. And he's now starting to you. Explain that to me. Start looking at trades at this point. No no okay. No you don't why i've seen a whole bunch of okay riled. I don't trust. I don't trust i don't trust our front office to make a good trade right now but you just punch line. But i don't want us going to get there. The reason i wanted to say no as i don't trust our front office. Eat making mistakes especially in free agents. Here's my solution okay. Immediate solutions to make to correct the ship so first of all we've established a two or cam win a super bowl with the right the right around the people. We all were both confident. How do we win. How do we save this damn season. Okay i'll tell you. What number one and foremost. Maybe i'll start with. I'll leave that one for last number one fuller has to play and play. Well we got the news today that he's he's ready to go yes. He's going to be practicing. Yes i hope. Whatever issues mr fuller. You had god willing as behind you and i'm glad that you were able to deal with their play. Earn your money and come and come professional yup. Give it your all. And i'm sure he will and fuller could be our number one very quickly. He could be okay. So i'm very happy. Thing number two bench jackson yes hundred percent. I don't wanna see him on the feel matter of fact if he's in acts over the in here that disagrees with us. Yes if he's going to do if i'm the coach scott if he's inactive. I'm happy i'll be honest with you. These should be inactive. That's how bad he's been playing. He's killing piece on them a message. Send them a message and say either. Get on get on get on board. The ship starts little our football coaches to say. Get with the program. Yeah i heard that many. And he's say all the time. Get with the program and you know what mr jackson get with the program. Okay number three. We got to put brown in passing situations us gaskin. You're done. i used to. I thought you going to break a all. These records catching the ball with you. Can't block worth a damn okay. And you're getting quarterbacks killed. Yeah put put brown chuck. He's going to do when watches last week's buffalo game all god he's going to be blitzing us left and right and killed her saying same thing and i want to leave you with the fourth thing that must happen to save this season. Okay must play this sunday and let me tell you why that's so important number one heart number one coming injury showing leadership. Yeah i get it hasselblad not play. That's where you earn your stars. Earn your badge of courage. It's where you earn a captaincy. I'm not on the rest of the team. I'm not a physical therapist. I don't pretend to be one. But i'm a guy that has learned a lot of injuries and i can tell you i i was looking for the cartilage damage. Right okay good. That's very frigging painful. Because i've had it. Yes no number two cracked ribs. No i'm sure he's paying. Because i was a hell of a hit a you know what buddy suck it up. Suck it up and show that you're the leader that this team marine awareness flack jacket back in the day when his ribs got. Let me tell you who brees played like that You know i remember him. Getting chased all over the field by the incredible new orleans defense at the time they had a terrible offense back but they had a stellar defense and marina was getting sacked and he got battered and they hurt his ribs. I don't remember whether he missed game or not. But i know he came back and played through that with with a flak jacket on. But you know the the thing is this okay regardless of of what am sorry. Because i'm so focused on tour right now is that you should be. It's a look at the parents do. I don't give a damn what happens this sunday. If you're does not play. I see it as a twig mundus. Detrimental blow to the dolphins. Yeah number one is now you gotta ask yourself. I'm going to interrupt you here. Sure okay is it on a rampage. Right or is it flows decision. Jeez right through a curve at me because flow keeps people out if he thinks they're injured. I mean he put davis on irr for three weeks. And i think davis could've played through that injury to i don't know i'm not top-tier but just eyeballing it. He was ready to come back in his helmet on but then again athletes adrenaline and the middle of the game. Listen and then the next day you wake up in the morning. If you're like i can't if i'm too. I'm campaigning from today. To every day to the coach and i know that athletes should in campaign because it out there he lost. You're going you still this. You gotta be because look. Your team. didn't vote you. Captain mr tua. Your coaches didn't think of enough to somehow bend the freaking rules. And thank you captain. We had this discussion should have done. That flows should have done that. So if no one has your back that reporter saw hate you the everyone. It seems like every damn national pundit guy can't stand you okay you know what you got a great family you got a bunch of people like us to believe in you got get out there and play a go out there and really show the world who you are grit your teeth. You have it up. Lift your skirt. If two does not play in this game. I am convinced that the season can slip away from us. Not only that. But he's not our quarterback of the future it's over perhaps early perhaps but if it's a flow decision than florida's and know anything about him and this type of situation to a has to go out there and gut gutted out it is a flow decision. But where does you know. How strong is that how. Yeah this is the same. The same coach that benched him every time he could and you know try to shatter the kids in the off season. It took a week before the season started before flow. Said he's committed to them. I mean listen. He may not flow. May not like to We don't know but it is what we have. Sometimes we have to coincide this to a niece. A- show up he needs to play. We need to make those adjustments on our offensive line and and fuller nieces. Showa big big-time has spread the field. So that water can destroy them underneath. Hey it's scott. I wanted to take a moment to jump in here and say we recorded this. On tuesday night and on wednesday we learned that to a dozen fact. Have a cracked rib. I thought about Editing out the entire section onto. But i thought it was important that alex make all four of his points so we kept it. I'm not sure what that says about the competency of our medical evaluation that took place the original injury or the following day. Yes and we wilson and the nfl will be shocked and people will stop saying to showed up and he played. imagine that. Imagine the story lines and how quickly we flip the seekers. You can't point Week ones w as a good showing. But the bottom line is this team needs to be better. This theme these to these to improve so many facets And and the number one in foremost is this office. This office needs to get together. So we believed in this offense in the offseason to recap again fuller. Needs to play play bench bench jackson get brown more involved in the passing police especially protection and get to to play sunday. Come hell or high water. that's it. I completely agree so we pick on something and argue with you. Just make this more entertaining. But i i can't. I can't even would sound terrible if i started arguing with you at something. We love to to look at power. Rankings yeah par- this weekend only gonna touch it. I'm only going to touch on it. We're not gonna span. You mean we fell from from where we were. Es i'm just gonna look at one. I'll look at the nfl. As our our grounding source right there then nfl power ranking extra stupid network. Nope no cbs extra stupid. I'm just going to look at one. Okay okay last week. We were thirteen after beating the patriots. Say we're twenty worse. Wow twenty-four split. The two twenty two. No kidding we serve it. Yeah that's okay we're gonna bouncing. It was just an embarrassment. It was turn the lights on the dolphins shrink up. So yeah we we should. We should do well now. The raiders is an interesting series because both of in our preseason episode predicted. A win here. Yeah get through your talk and then we'll see what happened. I mean if you look at our last one two three four five six seven eight last eight games. We've won seven of them against the raiders. Yeah and in vegas. Last year was a miracle in vegas. We are undefeated against them. Wanna know goal the miracle play. But here's what scares me about the raiders. Guess where their offense is rated in the nfl for total offense and i need to remind you who they've played. Yeah they play good teams right and they even though they what they want one in las one. They hung out to an know. Oh they won both of their undefeated. Oh yeah we underestimated them this year and we overestimated us. So that's not good. Well so marty s.'s. Number four number one number one offense number one offense in the nfl moses and this is what they've done they got more more yards almost one gain than we have in our entire season but anyway are two games. Yeah but they've got nine hundred sixteen total yards so far played to good teams. Okay yes four hundred and fifty eight yards per game passing seven hundred eighty two yards three hundred ninety one average almost averaging four hundred yards. This may sound weird after a score of thirty five. But i still believe in our defense. I one hundred percents. Defense played phenomenon of the balkan. I if the office could actually ball a little like Time of possession. You know marched down score not turn the ball over all the time you know all those things then. The defense numbers will look much better. Okay car is on pace to six thousand. Six hundred and forty seven yards not going to happen no. Hopefully we don't add to that. Yeah but i mean but they can't run the frigging pelota now. Here's what i'm getting at this game place to our strength right because we don't have the best run defense but we have a very solid pacifists. Yes and if we get takhar who was a little banged up last week and if we continue the pressure we could keep this game. Very close on van gingko man we could keep this game close. I mean. I wish i could say for what the rushing yards have been one hundred and thirty four yards. Total told games now. If you look at miami our offense is rated thirty first second to last second worse than us said i can tell us. We have more than us. The jets no of course not jacksonville. Nope you won't believe tell me. You'll be tortured new orleans. Wow because remember. They got all of the other day. He got five. Whatever four touchdowns on one hundred and fifty yards passages. See the superdome on fire today. Yeah i saw that spot. The heck you know probably partying down there and decided fire the super bowl. Control the power on issues. There is new orleans. But now here's the thing. Look at our total yards. Four hundred seventy five total yards. They have nine hundred sixteen. Almost almost double like i said. Now here's the interesting part rushing we have one hundred and forty five rushing. They have one hundred and thirty four. And i said they can't russia balls but passing three ninety. One i mean are passing where i was way off is one hundred. Sixty five yards per game sterile. I mean the bears have better office in us. Pittsburgh jacksonville donor and like we did in the second game. It's just as well every team with a rookie. Quarterback has a better better off than us and that's of those rookie quarterback's looked like crap. They looked like rob and they still got better off than us. I mean come on stopping. We have to correct the ship this week and i think if we play into our strength like we said i mean. They're they're they're passing the passing the boss what we should do better and should get those turnovers and cover waller. Waller's the nightmare words which is also a very fine young receiver. The row holland. I dunno so finding solutions. We gotta scheme it. We gotta do it. But they're they're the number one offers going against the number thirty one office. Ouch yeah again. It starts with a protection on the offensive line and not just protection opening some holes for when we do run. Well this tickled quick. Look at their defense where it's rank compared to us that's worth looking at We are ranked down here fourteenth in the nfl. They're ranked fifteenth. That's pretty close. Their defense has been playing incredible. Yeah they've given up seven hundred thirty seven yards we given up seven zero seven five to close to darn close. This is in the offense. So so yeah. Both teams have compatible defenses. Looks like yeah but one team. Has i think our our differences better than that. And i think tanks number skewed that is that i think we have a top five defense. Honestly do they have to prove it on against the run before i really commit to that. And they haven't so they have not. But that's it buddy. I think we both predicted that we were going to win this game. And after what. I've told you now. So whoever listening at this point we're not allowed to change that pick in terms of the season predictions but then week-byweek when we analyse at the moment juries you know we can make our prediction. So i'm gonna give you. I'm going to give you a politician answer if to a place we win. If he doesn't we lose. Hausa is a politician. And well not really. Because i'm not saying we're going to win. The wind blows right. And we're not. i'm. I'm saying if to a place where winning if to a dozen play. We're losing in more ways than i can ever tell you. We're losing our leader. We're losing our season. We're losing our entire focus as a team. I think it's this disaster. If you wanna play the political game. I then i'll say this. If our defense scores we end up winning the game if our defense does not score we lose. Now i think our could be. I think our defense is going to well. I don't know if they're gonna score but young right. I could see that being a a big difference in the game like this. It's very special. Teams makes a big difference. Also all right. Go off the dolphins tool dolphins. Podcast is proud to be a member of the dolphins. Talk podcast network. In addition to our website at two old dolphins. Do l. f. a. n. s. dot com. I tunes spotify and google play. We can also be found and dolphins talk dot com could reach out to us to our website and email address. That's there or find us on twitter where we're very active We have an instagram account. 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5/14/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 4 (9am-10am)

Boomer & Gio

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5/14/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 4 (9am-10am)

"Hi i'm jon meacham. The host of canes thirteen's new podcast fate of fact on how america and its political parties. Got to where we are today available now on odyssey apple podcasts. And wherever you get your podcasts. Remember the other day. we're talking about zack wilson. And who's going to wear number two or not gonna wear number two. He's going to wear number two good for him. Yeah is there. Who's the most famous number two. Doug flutie quarterback would have to be doug flutie. We actually found one that we had overlooked jerry in iowa and we were trying to figure this out. Don't tell them okay. There is a high quality quarterback. A number two triumphs matt ryan Can't get that by boomer. No way i would have taken me a while to. I completely forgot that he. I mean that's how much of non personality yeah famous. Doug flutie or matt ryan It's interesting it's generational. I mean for me. You saw them both. I think i think the statue they had doug flutie just because of the play in matt ryan at one that super bowl and they didn't blow it that i would say matt ryan. Why number two. Because doug flutie. Because they both went to boston college. Doug flutie more famous number two doug flutie is well known enough that they want them for that for gays testosterone commercial. Yes that's right boomer. And i love johnny manziel. Johnny manziel wore number two. He did interesting. Nobody's making those comparisons. Zack wilson though. There's no zack. Wilson johnny manziel comparisons anybody else. Did you look things up on the warm up show. I didn't look them up. We were just trying to think out loud. And that i think actually jerry looked up and discovered the matt ryan and nobody else popped up. That seemed interest on. Yeah let's do quarterback. This'll be fun quarterback on number association. I'm going to throw out the number and you tell me the first guy who wore that number will skip number two guy that wore the number of the first guy. That comes your mind. And i didn't finish my sense. I gotta that comes to your mind. The war that number all right. I already one. Warren moon all right very good. Three daryl lamonica russell wilson well generational four far. Now you're gonna get thirty. Five terry collins carry cons. Oh man five eighty wins because he got there. Yeah i know but five. Why am i have a tough time with five. Joe flacco go on. He wear five. I think so. I guess you're right for the ravens. You're five six sanchez baker. Mayfield go on sample. Mercy's aka kirk cousins. Yeah nine mcnair. Mcnair mcmahon mcmahon. Yes thank i go mc memory big man goes yeah mcnair though yes. That's exactly. What was the next one's going to be a tough one. Ten fran tarkenton belie manning steve bard gallinsky low. Wow anything as a lotta tens. Okay you said it was gonna be tough. I mean yeah. I'm saying it's tough. Knee some one right away. Eleven danny white. Yup sam's l. sam's come on studio here. Yeah the butt of a lot of our jokes. No no no no no twelve. Everythi brady starbuck greasy name. We all have different ones. Well i just think name it because he was the first one okay of that groupings. And yes you could say. Tom brady the greatest of all time. That's the eh bump. You could say that. Bob greasy undefeated quarterback i mean. There's a million again about jim kelly. Yeah another one yeah number. Twelve one just one of those numbers. All right. here's bradshaw. Yep of course the original tb twelve if you will thirteen anybody of any different for thirteen. Marina was quickly about him. We see any other thirteen's no right. I can't even think of another kurt warner and yeah go. Kurt warner has a good one. i four. nothing okay richard. Todd neil o'donnell vince ferragamo. No he was fifteen i think. Oh was he about to that. Neil o'donnell come on boomer. Fourteen anybody anybody pop into your mind. How 'bout kenny anderson. Okay all right out. Dan fouts good one good. One kenny. Beat him in the afc championship game. But dan fouts went to the all candy. Didn't i this this one. i don't. i'm not having a lot of names pop into my mind right away. Fifteen fifteen quarterback or a moral neil lomax niaz lomax assets. Go on and wow man oh man was. i know. we're missing a million of the hat. You gotta know the social media's on ripping on fire now you sports show for people who've tim tebow fifteen That really a quarterback. Yeah i mean he beat the pittsburgh steelers in a super. Nfl playoff game. Yeah the mary is. Thomas caught that touchdown pass over about the aaron rodgers. Twelve yet debt to a lot of twelve Twelve quarterbacks wearing fifteen guy do a better job than net bart star has to be the one. He's the one he's the one he is the one. Oh patrick mahomes. he's wearing fifteen i just. He's always number one to me. Of course yeah. Sixteen months tanna you in the san francisco forty niners just won the superbowl. What are you going to do next soon. You say we're gonna watch boomer sports. Seventeen dave craig. Philip rivers developers going. What was andrew locks number. And why why can't you. Wealth is twelve as well as also twelve another. Seventeen another cardinal quarterback. Jim hart one jake plumber. What was len dawson was six hundred sixteen with jake. Plumber was sixteen seventeen other seventeenth. Philip rivers is the one for me. The eighteenth and obvious. Jake del home j. Seventeen yeah jim taylor. Whom while peyton manning peyton manning eighteen. There's nobody nobody else. I can't even think of another one and then nineteen johnny. You there you go. Those are the ones. Nfl quarterback number association. Who knew that me so much. Where do we start doing number association for outside linebackers this year number nine nine the mic the mic. Tom brady is gonna have a hard time identifying people that's what he said. It's going to be an issue for him. Jon meacham welcome to fate of fact season one. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Please listen and follow fate the fact a presentation of shining city audio a john truman. C thirteen original studio available now for free on odyssey apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Each morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg hardy boomer and geo his go against the grain is rubbing against us the wrong way always going the other way man i tell you i mean all of us want to fund the now. I'm kidding i know i know that's eighty trigger. He gets upset about that one. So i'm not real. I pay my taxes. And i'm happy to do it. Unlike other i'm boomer esiason mind paying taxes. Just don't hate the people spending money to anyway. We love you luke bryan. We hope that you're listening. I heard a fan of the show. That's good very watches on cbs. Sports nice joe montana. Did i guess so all right. Jerry got an update for us to you by flagging anthem. Spring clothing collection visit flagging anthem. Dot com jerry. One thing to is so they're putting all these teams schedules out there for the nfl. You know it just seemed to seventeen. Cada is like a lot of game it does look like it. It's only one more game. But i mean for me. I played sixty games. Seventeen games here. We are yeah. Green rejang ninth the final week of the season that is a grind and only one by for each team which is really surprising. Yeah why i thought eighteen games would have been good with two by now. You play eighteen games while you get to buys during the year yes out there. Put a helmet shoulder pads on. You remember when used to play. I'll tell you what for thirty million dollars. I'd be happy to well for thirty five million. You do it again too. I know i'm right thirty five just five would you do it for five million. No he would. No of course. I i would well my die on the field but at my age of it. Just take a look at the jet schedule at cbs. Sports network just put up there just goes on and on and on by the way. There's a simple answer to don't play right. You know you can quit and go. I don't know work for a living. Yeah i just man it's going to be it's gonna be of eight. Could you like to and fifteen and one in six but when you two and fourteen going in week seventeen. Would you be okay with diane on the field at this age kids. Five billion dollars. No you would not be okay. No he's worth more than five mil to his kids. No i know but thanks for his boys who the number two number. There's not a number now. there's not hundred million and more than capable of working for a living thing you got to keep it under twelve million taxes. Get john kass left and right or you want to take it toward they wanna get. A twice from you selfishly. I want to watch them. Grow up so nope just make it. Sure save about football jailed. Leave a legacy. Because you're big on leaving a legacy you're right you think most don't most. Don't you went from radio personality to nfl. Football player and millionaire died on the field. People talk about you forever. That's fine there are those that will leave a mark but many of us will not you could you could. As time goes on. We're forgotten again factual though that is true it is yeah confucius g who is your great great grandfather. I don't know exa-. I don't know i'm very bad with that family stuff. I gotta be honest with you. I think but. I think most people don't terrible with it. I mean my my dad is way into it. He's the the ancestry stopping knows everything about it. He could tell you how his great uncle died in a fishing accident and where it happened. Like he's no last time. I can't i don't we're all just here. And when they will not and the world's gonna keep spinning and we'll be forgotten will be forgot see know fuchsias. Jerry said cherry deep intruding. What it is. Yes it's honest your move lived you've loved you're gone it's over don. Yeah how's that sound says mugs still selling well on wfan. We stopped pushing it. Yeah why. I don't know because we sold for four hundred fifty of them. I think yeah. We stopped sold four hundred and fifty mugs. That was where. I just was working the last night with a with the t shirt guy. A t-shirt idea for warm up show. Oh wait a minute timeout. Are you a part of this show or that your show. And that's what you're showing that you're doing. That idea just sparked for good friday going but if you guys have a short and a hat. They're just actually trying to get some money from we don't we do not have hurt. I don't think we work with somebody. I have a boomer and geo shortage t-shirt guy. Stop change with the t shirt guy out. A t shirt for that one hour show ya which is fine and i mean problem with that but you also work for hours on this show. Yes been working on a shirt for this thought of one yet. This one hit me last night. When i was taking a shower bottle one yet. Well i wanted to get a feel good friday shirt for the summer. That'd be nice like colorful something like that but we also have a warm up show a tank top that we've been trying to get done for the summer. Zachariah tank top warm-up show tanka where you're you're bathing suit show your harry shoulder maybe towel. Beach towel beached. Alabi another one. It just says right on it. that'd be great beach town. That's an idea all right jerry. It was an update review on the chew swung on and drill deep left field that ball as high as far as gone. Hit a three run home. Run gore a arosa reno and tampa has broken at wide open. They have a seven nothing. Lead and that is john three one with the call on the fan. That made it seven zip as you heard from john Turn out the lights. Yankees wound up losing nine one though. They did take two to three in the series. Here was aaron boone. Rich hill really had the yankees twisted in the wind. Why was he so good. Very speeds in his fastball. Plays up a lot more than than the number would suggest and two nights in a row. Just one run for his club with with the offense in general just kind of not everyone clicking at the same time they've also had covert issues as we know. Here's dj la- mayhew. It's been a bizarre few days busy days crazy stuff going on no player who are going to have available but You know through all that. I like to stay very focused. And that leads us to gleyber torres who does have covert and. He's on the injured list Aaron hicks did not play. Sore wrist be evaluated again today yankees or in baltimore tonight. Corey kluber facing dean kramer. We go more on mr cramer. Coming up The mets meantime were off. They'll be in tampa. It is tyler glass. Now against david peterson mets. Take a seven game winning streak into tampa bay later. Tonight in the indians beat the mariners. Four to zach police actor no hitter into the eighth inning than on giving up a two run homer but cleveland has won nine of their last ten games They have been that good one of the hottest teams in baseball for sure. One of the best teams in basketball especially the second half of the season. Been your new york knickerbockers last night. A win over the spurs as the hope alive for the four spot. dr randall. still on the floor. Girlish though allies replaced taj gibson. Five on the shot clock. Randolph front frayed. And that's kenny albert and msg and i saw during the game last night. Mike breen going into the basketball hall of fame this evening. So congratulations to him. He deserves so he was off kenny. Filled in with clyde Knicks run up winning one thousand nine hundred a game. They trailed by seventeen points in the second half. Alec burks have thirty Julius randle nine rebounds nine assists here. Was randall always knew the game would be. There is in the end. Never was here's rj. Barrett still working hard at this juncture of the season was definitely the voice trying to get home court over. You say we got a lot more work to do. Some more games will be ready to now his baron. Msg ally this clip from. Randall too. Because you've got atlanta playing last night. They wound up winning. You've also got miami. Playing also wound up. Winning and randall was asked about scoreboard watching and he gave me an answer. That most probably would not honest. Answer you're watching watching for sure or liar. So atlanta is a half game ahead because they've played one more game than bolt miami and new york but the knicks are sixth or third in that trio in terms of tiebreakers. Or if they all end up with the same record They will end up with laker loss to be the thing that you look back on one. That game four c but you can make the same case last night. You know you come back you blow a game in l. a. but then last seventeen down but they're also favorites last night supposed to win understood. I yeah but you know what you make the case they should on the laker game. Nola bron anthony. Davis hurt down the stretch. That balance didn't win enough for you. I mean or by off. I mean all. They know exactly what i'm saying. They wanted to get the four seed. Jogi reagan they'll get it. I know they could still get it. Bought worry about the wards now and just one game at a time. This season is not over. Relax it's a silly statement. Destiny is out of their hands. The atlanta finish with milwaukee. They got down. I'm not worried about it. Worried about miami. No talking about getting a four atlanta police. Houston now i know so. They had washington washington but atlanta and austin atlanta and the knicks tied. The knicks have the tiebreaker. You need to fund to the three. The three way tie. Which means you need milwaukee to beat miami but look at the end of the day you gotta take care of your own business and you win the games that you need the win and obviously the hornets are up next than the celtics when those games. Let's see what happens on sunday that we come back in here monday morning walnut where they are and hopefully i believe that they're going to be the foresee. Okay i hope that'd be great very might be. Then we shall see The islanders penguins begin their first round playoff series. Sunday in pittsburgh as we know and then before gets a moment that actually gonna lead right into it which is beautiful Tom brady on the complex sports podcast. Now they talked about a variety of different things. They talked about You know why the hosts hated him. Because he was a giant fan blah blah blah. They talked about apparel. They also asked. Tom brady about the boat parade. Remember that yeah yeah. He enjoyed a tequila his favourite one. I've been a cost. Amigo stricker for oh. I had seven nights so tom brady. For casa migos. He says he's got one specific choice to that. Got the moscow which is a really good product. They got monkey. How about that. This county believe it's scowl. Ms cow you listen. You say he says here's the thing he's been reading. Our book live on a friday. Sure to me go trick or very much. Get that breezes that on his own things one hundred percent now. I bet she's saying. I tell you this the way the conversation went. Yeah it was very. I mean it was really right at nowhere and it was a lot of what they were talking about and they were talking about. The boat prayed how cool it was. Because it was different. Wasn't like a regular prayed in the flowed blah and that just i know how perfect is that a cop amigos trick or for a while and the boat parade right in our boat parade is going to have a major costs amigos influence on the latest. I mean we have. Tom brady the boparai but then again no not not. At that time he'll be in training camp. But i will say that george clooney who is one of the part owner of casa. Migos didn't grow up rooting for tom. Brady no he did not two goats man. Tom brady. And casa me goes where he grew up on died. I don't remember cincinnati dedi. Fan huge bengals izzy. He doesn't promote that a lot. Wonder why what do you mean. He's promoting other things. An ardent. i mean. I know that other actors and actresses would they root who they root for. Has it been a lot time for. I haven't heard a single thing about george. Clooney being bengals bengals fan. Okay all right. I'm going to grow up in. Cincinnati very well known family is dad was a longtime news anchor in cincinnati and his mother was a famous actor. That's right and his is his. He and i are the same age sixty years old. Like within weeks of each other right all you guys hang back in the day. I don honor remember. We'll see on er at that. Time was the on er in the nineties. Probably right after you know use my is age so nine thousand nine hundred eighty four twenty three years old. He's probably. I don't know if you was the college whatever. But he's a huge bengals fan. You guys were tearing up the natty. He's probably some soap opera. Something back then. I started in nineteen ninety four. Er right you are so yes they have. It's a moment of the day is brought to you by tom. Brady's favorite tequila trick or for a while in custody. He goes to kill brought to you by those. Who drinking it. Tom brady. who knows. Maybe even the orioles pitcher like consummate goes to kill his name is i thought was dean. Creamer We were trying to figure out how to pronounce it because creamer is pitching tonight against the yankees turns was wrong. I've been with jerry. I would've won creamer as well. Right because kramer is k. r. e. m. m. e. r. A great so. Do we know what it is cream in the middle. Not go by creamer. Why why not on the is god. Because he doesn't have a krimmer folder. Jerry that's why you don't go by cream okay because there's never been terrible names in the history of mankind. I know there's been rusty. Kuntz sierra dick. Butkus i understand. Isn't it amazing you that just shows you. You can be tough and it doesn't matter what you name. It while magazine was off. Dick kiss and we don't even think about that anymore. Kick your ass. That's fine but maybe he was topped because of his name who add a whole lot of things that always used to blow. My mind is how guys with any magic johnson in. I've never thought of that. You know we never talked about their american prince pronunciation. Dean creamer creamer. Yeah cream pie. It now that i'm not saying that's how he pronounces it. But that's this says. American pronunciations says yes creamy protein. Now's it turns out. It's kramer that's great but who's counting. It's one of the day brought to you by five and told you not tom. Brady's favorite tequila migos trigger for a while. And by the way. I told you. Mlb was wrong. No they said kramer they say grammar. No i think this kramer they sent kramer and then we got that all sorted out. Not somebody right now. Very show the last name creamer. Very paula creamer golfer. Creamer that's how you yes. cesari a. m. e. r. creamer. That's cream. her name is still creamer. Yeah but that's you say creamer but your point was yeah who wants to be known as that maybe pronuncia. She doesn't go kramer. It's paula creamer hall of creamer. Is it not boom creole. Those kramer paula. Creamer is we gotta get an nhl. Gory this one. Call her up. Creamer kramer fix kramer. It's paula creamer kramer. Creamer i want to kramer. I'll say creamer tell anybody who's got another option other than creamer. They're in it. It's gotta be creamed creamer. The gotta be it's kramer paula. Creamer kramer it's not. I'll take the l on dean kremer or creamer or whatever. His name is that. This is paula creamer. He's not by the way. I figured out the Tom brady connection casa migos. You have yeah one of the partners. Mike melman Discovery land corporation is a good friends with tom. So i think. I have a piece here about the golfer jerry's or go back two years to revisit a memorable weekend for american paula. Creamer at the crema she said. I think i'm with jerry scottish soon. I'm telling you this one. I'm sure of. This is from golfing. World paula creamer for american paula. Creamer at the two thousand fourteen. Hse creamer take a look up. Somebody's last name. I know you were out. Doing six shows came into my mind. No i actually wasn't all right very good. Women's golf is like one of my guilty pleasures. Love watching it really. Why guilty because no one watches it. Okay who's your favorite women's golfer of all time on a sorenstam's she is a great one. What about currently. You have no idea you know. Is it dominated by korean women now. Women's go what you watch women. I'm not that. I'm not all the time you're say you watch like do not know. This is not like alan. The ninety day fueled say this is when i see it i will keep it on for a while for sure those breast they play the game all right. Never mind you guys you all right now know. I enjoy watching women's golf s idea right. Okay pull paula. Creamer out of a big fan of creamer. Yes but we're in jio coming alive and built ford tough studio. Oh boy natalie goldman's back in the day. Yes natalie gulbis question for anyone who loves golf any kinda golf. What is your paradise actually looked like chances are looks a lot like naples. Was that idea pronounce. That exactly is it. Naples sparkle the everglades jerry to is designated is the number one destination in the us. All right can you hear it. Offers wear after paula. Creamer nipples that we start right here. It offers stunning courses designed by such legendary names. As jack nicklaus. Tom faizo greg. Norman paula creamer an arnold palmer. Some busy bazi. Old guys playing golf. For christ sakes don't know any of these people. It's a great place each the morning show with boomer esiason and giannotti boomer and geo we've got conflicting reports here. We have that english guy that al found on youtube saying paula creamer. Then we had a very high ranking. Cbs person. say paula kremer spelled. Creamer pronounced kramer. So i said there's only one way to break this tie and that's to go to the wfan golf and tennis expert. She has been here from the beginning. She has been here from the start. One thousand nine hundred eighty seven. She is going to know she has to settle this. And that is ann liguori and create rammer corey marr. Kramer kramer. I knew us yes. It's gone now. That was very nice for him to do that. And thank you and we appreciate that. Oh what happened god. We have jerry redo that song. Guilty pleasures the lpga interest in working with him for what fourteen years now. I never knew that that. Al i did not hear what he said was if he was clicking around and he came upon women's golf he's not changing the channel to me and gio and here that it was because of the way that they played off. It's more like the way we play golf. Not sure they're pros just picture jerry sitting on the couch bowl of popcorn on his lap to cover up his watching the lpga. Good firm breast. Feed off. baby. Kramer kramer doesn't mean anything to me. Bend over and pick up that something from your breasts down to you. He just said it. You know what. I mean i stay. I feel great about that too. Yes but i knew when. I nobody if there's another choice other than creamer you're going with it. Nobody wants their last name to be creamer. No way even people's last names are spelled. Creamer gone different direct each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg nadi boomer and geo I'm john mitchum. Welcome fate of fact season one. 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607: Paul Henderson Goal Anniversary; Devils Prospect Quits Hockey to Become Influencer

"The steve one projects sports. And whatever all right all right all right all right. Welcome to the wpa show with episodes every single weekday and it's oozing with tales of sports auto sports and whatever it steve warren of his jim jerome schmooze ended up as we always do power. You ladies and gentlemen rate. You're grit you're here james. How are. I'm good stevie. Yeah yeah you'd mentioned maybe you felt like belching maybe you don't have to bring that onto the show or what we're recording. Oh i thought it was. I thought it was all done and it. It's one of my of the worst. But my my worst is pet peeve one of my worst pet peeves is. You're sitting around eating in a restaurant or someone's house or something or or i don't where golf course you know halfway hut. Maybe steve grab sandwich is the the belcher 's okay. Stevie i don't like it. I don't like it you know the guys just farting belching stephen hate saying the word. Yup you know that that one really dude really you know with no with no apologies. Deep so much on his own. Yup yeah i jeez. Oh you're gonna belched there we go. Yeah you're going to a beautiful understand what's going on. We see each other. We're on we're on video so this is a terrible start of the program is terrible but anyway yeah that's brought up a pet peeve of mine no belching okay. Don't do it okay. Don't let like even in the locker room. Stevie some of it's really really you know when we worked at tsn twelve hundred with jr. there was always a a golden rule. It didn't seem to matter much but what was said on the air as you working there successfully for ten years would prove but there was always a rule you can't in this tiny little dusty studio. We had to work in right. You can't be in their passing wind. No you can't. You can't doesn't stinks. It's not just the fact that it stinks. We can all live through that. We've had kids know it's just something about it. i don't know it just. It's so disrespectful and But i think trying to decide which of our co hosts because you me and jr. We kind of broke up and fragmented off. You went back l. Berta jr whenever to bob fm. Somebody along the way. I don't know it was buzz or stew. Someone who filled in came in and drop one and it was like i wanted him terminated at that very moment they do it. They do it like the little the little. Chevy shire grinned comes over their face. You know like okay. Who was that okay. Who was that. It's the due to hold it up stevie like like like they've won the ryder cup. You know yeah as me really. Don't do it. I told you what i do on a plane. Stephen happens because everyone does it on a plane. Right you'll be sitting there. You've got your headset on reading a booker looking at your foreigner and all of a son's like oh my god. Are you kidding me. Are you kidding me. David right away. It's my go-to right away. Loud and clear you think not. I don't think that's a good idea. Whoever that was that loud stevie that loud you duck. You know it's embarrassing if you're with me if you're flying with you but i do that one. I don't think we're gonna continue that for the flight. Are we you pig. Go to the bathroom. See people are disgusting. One of the worst examples of that was and you'll see it every once in a while on. Tsn's top ten or something and it's it's a baseball game and the broadcast. Is the cameras trained on the batter. You can see in the background fans in the stands kind of on the first base side. Churn see guy in the background. The zoom in on it of course for the purposes of top ten list or something and some due to the mustache and he's wearing a t shirt with no sleeves and he goes to the armpits and starts rubbing the armpits. Oh no and then he goes like this off smelling it worse. He takes that same hand reaches over to his wife under her nose. Oh no like pulling the blankets over the dutch oven or whatever they call it. It wasn't disgusting enough. He just decided it was such a such an interesting original aroma that he had to share it with his wife off off the grossest things i've seen in sports girls can ever can. You can have your clint millar chuck. That was grocer. jesus okay. we're off to a gross. start to the shell. let's go let's get into things. It was actually on the state forty nine years ago james. That paul henderson scored the goal in the summit series to win it for canada in game series. And i was thinking about it today. I mean even talking about it now. Are we alienating. Half our audience people just people for completely forgotten this Or i mean were they not alive for it even appreciate it. I don't know i. I think that we may be getting an oversaturation where we we fifty years. The fifty year anniversary of that comes next year. It's now so far in the rear view mirror. I think unless you're forty five and over here and really have no appreciation not really for what this series meant. Well i still have a hard time understanding what it meant. I you know and you were at one of the games. I was at one of the games. Yeah in toronto. At maple leaf gardens With my cousin because it was first time was on a plane it was in the it was the first week of school. So in september and We my my father got tickets So whatever you whatever year though how old he great six so while it's nine hundred forty nine years ago so there you go so i nine hundred seventy two summit series. Yeah there you go. So i'm ten years old and we sat so high stevie and maple leaf gardens that the the beam in front of us. A girder was in front of us. You couldn't see the far side of the rink. Okay that's how high up yet to duck down yet. Deduct down to see all the play which i remember fondly i. It wasn't that game. I don't think reply andersen did it. But now i just. I just never i can be sarcastic. I can be a little a little unexcited about stuff that other people are and it was still at it was an exhibition series You know the russians Surprise the the canadians it became That became the riveting side right because it was going to be okay while they're throwing this thing together. Alan eagleson did it. I guess it and they're going to take on the russians. But the they're going to get malt right the russians were gonna get mauled. And of course. That wasn't the case. And i think a little i don't think a little kid could fully appreciate the politics behind it and the cold war and all that so i i fully understand when he stayed in you know at the time but you came to realize in the years to come. Big dealer was right. But but really this paul henderson grew legs. I was like i say it was an exhibition series. And and yet this thing. I would be in the unpopular opinion. Steve ovett that okay. I just you know should be in the hall of fame for it and my answer. All the time is no. It didn't know no. But anyway i'm wrong. I guess i'm you know. Most people think it was an extraordinary feat that he scored a goal against the russians in this series. Not just i goal scoring the game winning goal in game six. He's scored the game winning goal in game. Seven scored the game winning goal in game. Eight that last one being obviously way more famous than any other. Yeah i i guess i guess you know i never. I never glommed onto stevie. I never can't pretend to think it was the one of the greatest things in canadian hockey. You know i just don't i just don't i. Never you know. I think the series was. I think it was incredible. What they did to to get together and do this thing. And then for The russians to display The skill and talent in canada's game stevie right this is this is nine hundred. Seventy two man. No one is going to ever be canadian team. This is ridiculous that they would put this series together. So i get that. I get that but just like why. Why paul vanish. What about all the other guys. What about all the other guy steve. Yeah you can all entertain a debate on paul henderson being in the hall of famer not one way or the other but what it won't entertain his anybody coming at me as though it was not a big deal what i remember. Most of it was my dad night. Collecting newspaper scraps basically buying all the newspapers. We could through the twenty eight days of this series and And his every game we watched in every game. We cut out newspaper. I don't know if i still have it anymore. All these clippings from papers and stuff. But i said i remember most about it it was supposed to be cakewalk for canada. We had an arrogance about us. Guys are game. We're the best at it and you know any olympic victories. The soviets had enjoyed over the years that came because all our best playing in the nhl right so suddenly they come in and they looked so good in the first game And again the politics of it all the cold war all of that. It just felt like it became a threat to our way of life. Which is of course a bit melodramatic picture. But that's how it kind of felt at the time i think so. That happened forty nine years ago today as we head to break Want to get a quick note on facebook from david and good. Listen to the program. He wants to weigh in on the show. He's a loving the content great stuff on yesterday's show. Jimmy share that. He believes that he is an acquired. Taste no kidding. I listen to t.g.i.f. Since i moved to the ottawa area. In two thousand four in my opinion jimmy. At that time you're the villain of the show if you were if and when you were there. I haven't listened. Tsn twelve hundred. Since steve was dismissed and i was a little worried when his new podcast included jungle. But about a weekend. I was sold. Jim russ on the suspended is also gold. Jim you often bring perspective to your takes. That really makes me think differently. And i appreciate it. I know i don't need to tell either of you. You be you and if people don't take the time to figure you out and acquire a taste for your takes. You don't need them. Keep up the great work that is from david. Thank you david. That's a nice thought. Obviously in our generation there's going to be geniuses everywhere. Steve that's going to be the next big thing you know david. Being the first david being very is that his name david david rhys. He's a genius for recognizing your genius. Exactly exactly a big day big day. It's like the forty nine years ago. The russians here mark this day or david. Thanks a lot david. I'm pulling your leg. felt brilliant. You really argue all right. Let's take a timeout. When we come back on the show we're going to talk a little bit about evanger kane in a new segment. 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Ford dot com by the way my thought earlier about how we're just I wonder about alienating certain listeners. Who are of a certain age. Don't fully appreciate the seventy two summit series right point. I wanted to make on that. Was that for example. The rcaf flyers they were based here in ottawa. They were a senior amateur canadian team and they went and won the national senior. Title the allan cup and then they later on when the gold medal for canada at the winter olympics. Eighteen forty eight pretty impressed story there. Grab that from now yeah. I don't think anybody listening right now. Would appreciate that in the least. Just because time has marched on and leaves these wonderful sporting moments In the rear view mirror. And i feel like the way that i feel about the rcaf. Flyers is probably how a lot of our listeners currently are feeling when we bring up the seventy two summit series not really rattle appreciation for just based on age. Yeah you will be stevie the the big this gaming thing right. This just in right is huge. Everyone's heard now where the gamers video gamers where they have. These tournaments steve where people packed arenas to watch these guys game you know. And they're making e. sports. It's and i think it includes not only like guys playing actual sports like Nhl twenty twenty two or whatever but it also includes them playing warcraft against each other and things like that right. Yup so that'll be the what you know that these kids now in twenty years from now the kids who are eighteen nineteen twenty and twenty years from now going well. Let's not forget. You know that. That guy from egypt who won the first gaming title or some you know. I don't know if it's a territorial thing. I it's just obviously it's not so much change right with social media right and the internet. So maybe maybe there won't be. Things appreciated down the road like like they are for us when we look back. You know that sports thing is fascinating to meet that my son for example. He really enjoys watching youtube video of somebody else. Playing mario brothers my kids to interesting when you bring that up and sometimes people will watch the various sports products. That are out there as far as ea sports and you you question them on it. No come at you with housing any different than watching like people. You don't know. Play play hockey and i guess the big picture. It's you know if you're joined that it's it's a competition going on so it's an i mean you're just watching your eating popcorn. You're just drinking beer and watching. Tv how is that any different. I guess i can't argue with that. That and the social media influencing that's going on right now both Interesting trends have been going on for quite some time but the interesting thing was the devils prospect nikita pop guy of public guy of has announced his retirement at the age of twenty two because he wants to be a social media influence her he was drafted by the devils in the fourth. Round of the two thousand. Seventeen nhl draft. He played three years of junior hockey. Spent two years with two cage l. teams. He was with the devils in their american hockey league team. Then he went back to the and at twenty two he's announced. I am quitting hockey. And i'm going to be a social media influence her. What do you think of that. it's either it's either. Yeah here we go right. Just what we're talking about. This is the future for our youth or it's like the saddest day ever for our youth. You know what. I mean like this kid. This kid made it to the nhl. Okay he he acquired a the dream he got hooked into the dream of. I don't know steve. Six jillian kids You know that that that he made it there. would would would probably whether gig somewhere so he gets he. He achieves that and then when he does he's living the dream says no i'm gonna. I'm going to do youtube videos right. What what. I never ever heard of that. Steve never have heard of a kid who who's got a shot more than a shot. You got drafted right. Got by the devils. I i can't think of. I can't think of anything so is it. Is it a telling story of what what lies ahead or is it the saddest date for youth. I'm going with the saturday ever i you know. I think that's you know you and i were talking yesterday. Offaire about You know our youth and how some of them some of these people. I i know on examples of some of these people were just. They don't have the direction that they want. They're feeling peer pressure You know they're surrounded by Success special social meteorite. Everyone just put all their great achievements. But they're kinda struggling to find their way you know and What what what they ended up telling me was. I got to meet more people right. I got. I got to figure out what i wanna do. Young guy twenty two years old. I got to figure out what i want to do. I'm going to meet more people got to college and thought i'm going to join these social club stevia college all right making an effort and then came away saying i tried to meet people but after class. You know you know how you because you went to college after class. You're gonna mosey up to a couple of guys you wanna say hi to her. Whatever you guys want to go for a beer you know wasn't out of a considerable lecture. Or whatever or or trying to try to nudge alongside a girl or meets up and he said that everyone says they left. It got into their phones and had no interest in talking to walking from like everyone walks the hallways looking into their phones so we can keep complaining about it right. We can keep being disgusted by and this story you know going. You gotta be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. It's like an astronaut. tv. You're going to be the next guy to land on the moon guard. No passing. i got twenty thousand dollars instagram. I'm going to do that for yup. And do stupid tic tac videos but but it's reality so well it's the reality but it's still not a big sample size. It's just surprising when stuff like this. Happens you wow everybody listening right now. I'm in for over a thousand bucks to play men's hockey this winter like i. That's i enjoy playing hockey that much. That i'm willing to make that investment and And and go out and still play the game because a lot you'd have to think that somewhere along the way he just fell in love with the sport. I don't i don't see being social media influence or as being such a draw that many pro hockey players right we'll bail specifically for that. It'd be nice to know his full story. Maybe you know mitt overbearing. Parents or coach didn't like someone who just smashed the love of talk yet of his head and just decided to turn his back on hockey. And not so much that i love social media influencing i just wanna do something else. Now yeah you bring up a great point you know of the seven hundred and fifty players or whatever. There are a year who play You've seen these you've seen these breakdowns of of you. Know the odds of you making the nhl and how many kids start out doing it. And you know so it's thousands and thousands and thousands. Okay who are eighteen year olds okay. So let's do the math thousands and thousands thousands of you. Don't have a shot okay right. You're not you're not going to be able to do it. Surely some of them who do end up there steve goo gotta be because of pressure from their parents right. You could never say anything can never seen anything. So maybe maybe that's the case right anyway. Quite a story quite a story is always fascinating to us. I think when when players walk away from the dream the apparent dream young age. We saw it with barry sanders. Who who's the guy for the phoenix cardinals who who went away and got deployed pat. Tillman is the name right. So that's what he did back then stevie So so. I can't help but think when i hear this story that i'm kind of going like being punched in the diaphragm. Yeah to be honest. That that i don't think while the kid was under pressure from his parents although that could be something but i think you're going to do this to fuck around on your phone all day language. Yeah and one's a little different. Because he he is not like he didn't like football he with the whole nine eleven attacks he just. He felt like he wasn't doing enough for his country and was deployed afghanistan and died. Still still to do that though after making the nfl. Who do it yup Also wanna talk about a vendor kane as mentioned going into break in a new segment. I call what's vander being investigated for now and the latest is of course you know the stories last week and we actually didn't update this. we've been. We talked a lot about of andrew keen. So it's important that we clarify this. The nhl announced last week that they did an investigation and it cleared evander kane of allegations that he gambled on league games. But at the same time they also revealed to new inquiries were underway. The first involve serious accusations relating to his past behavior toward his estranged wife and the other involving allegations of inappropriate behavior potentially jeopardizing the health. And the safety of club members. This is all The second investigations involving possible violation of nhl cova protocols and details of the violation is While just saying it's being investigated and they're not releasing any other details on that. But i mean what next with this guy. James with i keep your powder clean. What did they say. What's that expression. Steve you keep your powder clean nose clean. Keep your nose thing keep your powder nose clean powder you know what's powder after you. Look that up. Steve there's going to be a look it up right now. Going to be something about. Keep your powder clean. I'm telling you it's some sort of expression keep one's powder dry there you go. What's that mean. Keep your powder dry means to remain cautious and ready for any emergency. There will so remain cautious. Evander this poor prick you know. Why why would he. Why would he go against covert protocols. Now i don't know what to say about this guy. I don't know how to say. I think he's troubled. I've heard from a couple of credible sources that he's very troubled. But i don't need credit. I don't need like inside sources to figure that one out right. Just look at a newspaper every day true true. Anyway it's not all a bollettieri's steve. Speaking of kids who do make the and get in there and are successful. You know it's not it's always great stories. I guess amongst many many many great stories that are but this one. Everybody's got their stuff. It's unbelievable like just everybody's got their stuff whether it's personal demons or troubles in their lives you know. We're giving a guy a hard time last night because He gave us a but an hour before. Gametime senate the mass email can't make guy story and then we're giving her a hard time in the seats to give us the reason he can't go on. I'm not going to tell you what that reason was but it was like we're going. Oh my god embarrassing but hockey man. That's right dealing fat. But we've all got our stuff the and the big dilemma for these guys. Right is you know what my father used to say to me right. Who was who's a federal politician. And you know he was. He was a dark horse at one time for the the leadership of the liberal party. There you know there was a lot of stuff that was dangled in front of him and You know he always said he d- he didn't have enough hate for other guy right. He didn't have enough hate for that. Which is a sad statement about politics that you regardless. If he's blue and your read you gotta hate him okay so that that was one thing but the other thing he said where people are sometimes calling for the head of a leader of a party you know and there you think you got to get rid of the guy parallel to this event mccain story some guy starts to get in trouble or you know you gotta get rid of. You've got to step you know you're gonna tell him to resign. You gotta tell vander. Kane's got to get out of the games. Do the shit my dad said you know what human nature when you arrive at the pinnacle. Seavy when you get there okay. Who amongst this is going to say. No problem will walk away from that right right and it ain't happening ok when you become the reach the nhl when you become the leader of a country or or the president of your company or whatever in your digging in man. You're digging it ain't it ain't quite that easy no problem. I'll walk away from this. My life long dream right. So i'd ask the question. Do you think if bell media didn't come along with their restructuring and their cost cutting and you and i are still doing that never happened. You think today we're still rolling through that show still doing that. Show is i think the answer probably yes because that's that's that was a pretty good gig for a long time paid. Well you got to talk about sports effectively. What we're doing now. Do you think you'd still be in that position if if the restructuring stuff didn't come along well. I don't think i would have survived. You know in our minds hundred desire. You wouldn't have walked away from it is my point. I'd never walk away from. This is the best gig in the world. Yes to your point. Yeah once i got. Is this any good listening. Don't take this away from me okay. There was nothing bigger in my mind that i loved it. I honestly think it was a good thing for me. Because i done morning. Radio for thirty years people. In canadian radio period have done that morning slot for thirty consecutive years. Yeah killer now that on the other side of it. And i've got the clarity of not getting up at four in the morning and being late watching hockey and then getting up at four in the morning again and again and again is it wasn't easy physically after a while and so it's been good from a physical and mental standpoint. I'm now at the time no and brought about a year afterward. No but now that. I'm two and a half years clear of it. I'm thrilled that. I'm not doing that. Slot right more. I would entertain going back date daytime shift but certainly t- gore and that early morning slot. It was time right. You did it for thirty years. You know get up that early. I'll tell you what what i agree that you just. You just can't do that day after day after day and so about day. Three stevie. I said. I just can't do this. Okay i'll tell you what man. This is brutal longer. Do i have to get up stevie at five thirty in the morning for a five o'clock show. Yeah okay how much i can't you know. We all admired your stick to it of new sports. You as we back final thoughts after these words. Are you looking for a better value on your insurance dollar if all the companies are charging close to the same price. Who would you pick. What if i threw an expert on your side for the same price. Caller texts me today. I'm gerard all insurance ontario. Six one three eight zero one two six five nine all insurance ontario. Your modern boutique broker it. You know the gym kaye. Ford has been around since eighty to one of the longest running dealerships in ottawa. the k. 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I bet a little bit on the football so i turned on and then came across their deal. That they're doing. I was kind of immediately frustrated. What one is because. I just wanna watch the football game right and originally i thought okay. 'cause i texted saying the you know the guys who did the game last night again The dallas game. I just can't i just personally. Just don't like them. I it's vanilla. You kind of agreed with me. They don't give him much. We've got the tony romo's now of the world who are coming in to do this and when you see what he does Boy the bar's gonna go way up for these guys. So when i when i was looking i go. Oh these drive me nuts. You know this guy. Steve is just giving every stupid adage after play. You know going good run there. I'll tell you what they're going to need that guy to do more of that in this game with the this guy's this guy's gotta bring it st all that shit right. It was just like shut up now. Brian greasy by the way the so bob greasy is the guy who led miami to their perfect season in the early seventies and brian. His his son. He was briefly an nfl quarterback and just kind of getting his feet. Wet the monday night booth. He's not gonna last. I don't think so anyway. So i said well. Let's check this thing out the eli peyton thing and one of the things that struck me right away. Steve is is the quality they've they've got. Those guys are sitting in a room somewhere and then they'll have onscreen. The game will be gone on like you know. They have a picture in picture. Almost right and they're they're kind of talking to someone else they'll be interviewing a guy and sorta doing this interview with the guy and then throwing a little commented really nice play there. Yeah good pass. Rate in the blob blah. The quality was terrible. I thought you know zoom camera. Whatever they use bats brutal. And i'm going. You're doing a national broadcast here or you know. Probably even bigger than that. It's probably going to other places in the world as you gotta be. You gotta be joking. This is shitty. But i never gave it a chance. I guess i. I lost about thirty seconds going. No i don't like this. Give me back to the game. What you think i find it distracting. I really like peyton manning. i don't know much. But i don't have much to say about. Eli one way or the other. I don't i don't love him. I don't hate him or anything. He's fine And so but peyton. Manning is just so quick and eloquent. I always enjoy his commentary. I'd like to see him in a more standard format talking at the right times. Because i feel like these guys are distracting. Me is like it's like you have five guys over your house in a sunday afternoon to watch football on your you know the when the place happening. I'm like gallon watch. Meanwhile they're they're doing something entertaining over here. You know with a beer. Or something. I i really would watch the play here and then we could talk during between the place I find it distracting to have these guys talking off to the side in in a kind of an unconventional way. I'd rather see peyton manning on monday night. Football taking the job of brian greasy. Who we just talked about right right and and it isn't a world where they're signing superstars right to know yep You're you're good and great friend wayne gretzky for example. That's that's coming up. Hockey game started stevie. Hobbled that two nights ago or three nights ago this just in we talked about that sends jets game. It's well underway for sure and on the sense front of now decided. Because i've been optimistic. Every analysts keeps telling me to stay optimistic. It's going to get done. It's going to get done well. I'm starting to move in to the mode of. I think there's a real chance just given the way the chuck's seem to be having this. We're going to have this whole thing and wearing it. Like a magic of honor. And and just being grinders by nature. I would not at all be surprised to see this dragon and and wipe out some regular season games for the kid. There's a deadline. I think it's the end of november or december. First or something like that for our f- as to sign of they have to sit at the whole year. I'm not sure what the deadline date is this year. But it wouldn't shock me. If the ca- chuck camp goes right up to the deadline with this thing because it hasn't been signed by now unexpected. I use every bit of leverage. They can yeah. I i i the only the only thing that makes sense of this is we gotta gotta see comparable deals right. We gotta wait and see what he does. Go back guy does. Go wait and see what this does. So it's who it's who moves. I right yep who twitches i though so we shall see sign the frigging holy while they want to man. He wants to sign. They want each other but Everybody wants the best deal as we had the door. 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"You're listening to dolphins talk dot com podcast network Hello and welcome to the two old dolphins podcast a proud member of the dolphin. Talk podcast network. Show hosted by alec signs in meath. Scott aright daleks are back as scott game. Yesterday it was It was a real high low high roller coaster As as i expected to some degree level before we get into the game. I just thought we open kind of as we usually do. And talk about Some stuff that's just under going on human side the yeah yeah. I had one of those last few days. That you kinda like scratch your head and say wa. What else can happen I had a My daughter as i said in the last part because he came home and it was fantastic. everything's been great except on friday. Morning britney comes running up the my daughter's britney's you see him running up the stairs. As i was sleeping while i think you have a faucet running and i ran l. to see what she was talking about and there was a pipe broken and the water was flowing everywhere from the downstairs bathroom avenue upstairs so that turns into a little bit of a challenge of fiasco. Whatever you wanna call it and you know getting it. I repaired tried enough to water. Would having britney and her friend over and you know a house full of people and that was a very very challenging couple of days for me before the dolphin game and then But to make matters completely interesting my radiator was damaged in my on my car. So they have to get a new radiator so it was like one of those like ouch. What's what else nothing else can happen. Right boom it happens. So and the third i was fearing was doffing game and third disaster. But it wasn't a disaster so that said in a nutshell. That's what happened with you. Anything you for some reason every year at this time of year. I say okay we. We have this tradition with our christmas cards. We take picture of the kids and and maybe whatever pets and and You know get it onto a card one of the costco services type of thing and and try and get those things out to everyone you know people do letters or christmas cards or whatever and every single year i do it too late i get the process started too late for whatever reason and so finally last night We got that picture taken on. I ordered the cards. And you know who knows when they're actually going to get here. I gave up saying getting cards. It said like merry christmas. On 'em or happy new year or anything like that. I just get happy holidays and then something like we hope your holidays were good because we know the you know with the unsaid because we know this is coming to you after the holidays. So if you're on our list don't think that we've forgotten you where just late a bit of good news is After all this time after everything we went through. When i was in new york in august and then all the surgeries my mama's had and on her back and It looks like she's going to be released tomorrow. Yeah yeah she'll actually be doing host for the first time since late. August september and that should you know should be good. I mean she's walking and Getting around. I mean not quite like she used to but that's great news. I'm so happy for her and for you. I met my my oldest daughter's new boyfriend yesterday. That god i don't have anything good or bad to say it's just a you know just one of those things as a dad. You know it's scott. It's almost happens but you know to like any guy dating a daughter. Just you know pretty difficult you. I'm always picking and looking in just a anybody dating a daughter. Should i dunno. Let's let you know it's just like It's got to be like a perfect guy. Good yeah i don't know this must be a natural instinct or something get of this. You know squared up fis- titan. Whatever you know i guess you just a born with an instinct to protect protect your children and for some reason daughters more so yeah understandably so and daughters You kinda also goes Hate to say but we know how guys are like you do have a little bit of experience we have a little bit of experience on that and typically You know we look at them and we gotta go. Yeah right you know what would you know it just. Yeah i said it's a difficult. It's not a is not black and white for sure is not one of those things. But anyway so yeah. That's pretty cool stuff for your mom's information that's really great. That's really cool And now we also on a on a global scale now. We got a vaccine finally deployed this weekend. That's just the news was first official. Injection of the vaccine was to a nurse yesterday. Can i can i can. I just plead that every football player guesses shot except the jets but anyway they don't need one already. They're very quick for the season. what of what. What the backle did you see them. yesterday we of course you watch a little bit of so in san diego for whatever reason the cbs and the local cbs station gotten some kind of a conflict with direct tv in so savvier could be everywhere. I guess i don't think it's everywhere. Has it on a national scale. I don't know why i thought it was strictly local. But it makes sense if it's as the problem was with. Cbs that that they had it wasn't cvs san diego What i read was a problem with. Cbs yeah so i just i just. It's so irritating. It's so incredibly irritating so I have the direct tv package. Obviously so we can watch all of our dolphins and That was blacked out because it was being shown in the local. Cbs station but the low cps station is not available on tv anymore. So the first instinct was. Oh my god we can't watch the game I was going to have a major freak out. Yeah that's what happened. Yeah we do have Sorta cheat solution. Maybe i shouldn't say it in a podcast know has to do with zoom or Facetime with friends that we have all over the country so So as a possible solution but You came up with a. I didn't even think of it. Because i i almost never put on those first two. Nfl channels worthy called. Whatever all one in seven oh two. Oh the numbers are seven one seven two you know. What are they a name for those channels red zone. I know that's not the zone. What does that called. It's called every every every game is on us. it's it's called. Yeah it's called the if you're if you're if you're a fantasy nut does the station. This is the how to watch the game. No i was just or football nets like we are both so. I had to like sit up close to the tv. 'cause it's in the upper right hand corner of my tv. Rather than i. I watched a whole game in the bedroom for the first time. Is you know. I like to watch downstairs. 'cause i was standing up and sitting on my bed and a standing up the whole game mostly standing up because that game was very tests. What a hell of a game it was. It was superintendent. Yeah so i did see a bit of the jets game was was of course i kept the tv on and i liked that channel jets jazz for games. They don't have am not particularly invested in that. I don't wanna focus on necessarily but still see stuff from them. So yeah you liked that channel So what. I do doing the game from now on when the dolphins game is not on that channel will be on. This is what i do. I put i bring a another. Tv downstairs. and so i have to fifty seven inch. Tv's the one that's over the chimney and the one on the left in the one on the left always has that channel on perfect and so that's really cool and then a big one has the king of them. All the dolphins right right. Yeah so so. Scott getting into the kansas city game. Let's start yes. Let's start at the beginning. Start before the game starts petrifying. So i had a of dread and a stomach ache almost with with the knowledge right before the game kind of. I don't know saturday. That vinoy roberts flowers flowers. That's before the game and gas saturday. We gaskin which was totally out of the blue. Yep yep because he's he's tested positive for kovac that means in all likelihood he's gonna miss next game too and and we're going to get into the game here shortly but hell do. We need gaskin. Geez oh we have no. We didn't have a great running game to begin with and every time he goes out it just got. It's such a difference and we talked about his numbers last week. Over one hundred and forty yards Just showing that toughness that he has that hands the great hands that he asked we starting washington. We thinking revenge game. I that i definitely don't believe in revenge games as they always turn out to be a flop more often than not. Yes me to lose that fans always have and i think they're entertaining illusions but they're not real. No no there's no. there was no revenge revenge. What he was on there he. He was on their practice squad and we picked them up. I whatever it's not like the cut them and says xactly you're done in football out of here you're loser you can't run the ball. That wasn't a game. Wait until the get you and they know you really can't run. The ball club. Bell facing gays might be a revenge game. I think more the the the the seattle gain where we're adams Setup to the other atoms. Yes you know. And he was on fire number thirty three i as as he goes out and he gets eight and a half sacks for the season sets a record or something for safety for safety. I mean that guy played it but anyway back to our dolphin. That's a real revenge game that one. I could see because he hated gays. He's still hates case. It's probably we love. We love gay so you know. Listen before we get into the game. We just i gotta talk. We've gotta get our gaze thing out of the way all right. Get out of the way okay. So he got his ass kicked again team. Quit again but before that happened. I text you about a certain reporter that fired in new york. Yeah what is the story. Did you dig into that at all. I the more i dig the more. I get scared because it got rid. Miami fans have heard his voice for years because w. a. m Brings many mehta onto interview especially post prior. Whatever to jets games right. He is the Was the post guy that covered the the beat writer the covered the jets and he had was intelligent and smart things to say and And was brutally honest about the jets every time and he was the the jet Beat writer or so. We thought What's happened is allegedly. Manish was taken his credentials. Were taken away from him a long time ago and another guy would show up and give him all you know. Put the phone live ca. Have all the press conferences which earned zoom show. kind of. Do the same thing you were doing. you know allegedly. Yeah i mean this is one sick situation. I mean this gets darker and darker in. He was out there Threatening people just host whole allegation now we don't know what shoe and what's not true. So i'm not going to throw this guy under the bus but what you know because they don't just read the stories all in the washington post game out with it. It's just crazy. The the story gets sicker and sicker as you read it. You know this guy hasn't had any credentials and yet he's faking to be the beat writer and and of course he hates the jets and they just eight the credentials away. They take it away because he hated the jets and he was critical. Does this set a precedent that we don't want that you can't be critical of team in new york or reporter being critical shocking. I couldn't i. Couldn't i was like what the hell are you serious. I press in the country. Friendliest press in the country all of a sudden now has a bad guy. A bad apple in the big apple you know with the maggots. I mean it's just crazy. The whole thing was like hysterical right But this is where it gets even darker for me. Okay i never in a million years would have thought that manila would have been fired for gays so it only strengthens. My beautiful believes. That case is the untouchable one case is the real teflon man. Gays is the greatest salesman. Ever gas will survive all of us. Incredible that's what my guess is. Gas is now he just grew in my eyes. The legend the myth the man. The greatest coach ever to win a game. That's gate ask my man. Oh my gosh for for those few of you. That don't know alex is sarcasm. It's as deep as it goes now. I'm just saw gets classic man when that happened. I was laughing. Scott i was i was. I couldn't control myself. I was just going. How the hell how. How could it possible that the reporter. That's literally head hunting case. You know running to really shop his head of having fired he hated when he got hired right. We talked about that other. Yeah right when he got higher. He's how the hell we hiring a guy that sucks. The that failed in miami was right about that. But ensure was we all encourage that that hiring and glutted and listen to them exactly and then they pull his credentials and nobody knows about this. Nobody knows about it. Had to be news in new york at some agnes in new york knows that we know it w would not have brought him on as your the beat writer that doesn't have credentials anyway and that thing just when you think. There's nothing to talk about gays because he got blue blown out. They scored their scored. They're averaged three points. That's what they scored against us. You know they scored less than three against us. They're going on. Yeah in an average. Yeah one and a half just when you thought that. That story can't get any stranger here. we go. I mean so so anyway. The gift of gifts on giving the case bug. I let you're going to be able to. i'm confident. I mean in realistic terms that on black monday. he's gone. Maybe even you know as a precursor to black monday begun raw the minute. The clock hit zero on the final game of the season. Out of there. But you'll be able to mock me for an entire year if you're in fact right. Oh for lifetime if he if he's not fired one minute after black monday starts laughing like there's no tomorrow and i'm gonna be so grateful. The football god's will keep case around as the new york jets coach for many years to come dip anyway. That's it okay. Let's on onto the beloved dolphins so so we talked about. You know coming into the game with some key already. Gaskin was a nightmare that that that was unexpected. We'll to has been a well even more of a contributor and a leader and everything then gaskin has this year but we knew that he was digging dinged up and we did but i thought he would talked about it. And he. he's a gamer. Yeah but then you know roberts and and we know flower so so essence we have at some time doing this game. We lost our our leader the biggest acquisition before you know before the game started lists as well he last how fair it seems. I mean we're going against the super bowl champions. And they have all of their weapons and him and and more and more got a running back that they drafted in the first round. That's pretty good. Yup they got more weather. We've got all these. We've got all these key guys out already and then during the game they just keep dropping so we'll talk about that as we can. But here's the thing what was what would you say the number one. Acquisition on offense was for us. Yeah and the free agency. Excuse me in free agency. While was the number one acquisition on offense flowers. The by far he was our most expensive. He was a guy we gave the longer contract to. Because we carries. I believe one year. A come in and show me. Show me i mean we we so we have one guy that we gave the largest contract to mess flowers and he was out and on defense. Who would you say are free agent. acquisition number. one was vinoy. Vanoy benoy right indisputable. He's been team captain. He's been incredible. Although the joneses is actually making more money than vanoy moneywise. you're correct. I think impact wise. I will pick vanoy. He's just been unreal. he's been. I mean last week spoke for itself right three sacks that we were talking about i mean the guy is a hell of a player and there's a reason why he was named defensive player of the week. Yes i haven't heard jones been named defensive player. No okay no. But i can see howard getting it. Yeah but you know. Howard was a keeper that we just say acquisition wise. What i think our biggest acquisition best acquisition performing acquisitions that we had our from the free agency. Sam point voice them out out before the game are leading our leading rushers out for the game. Roberson are are the guy that hit the hardest. I just ass Gore nevada the guy that hits hardest. He's out I mean that's a hell of start right near you say boy. We're we're we're double. We're dogs by seven and a half points which is important. I wanna talk about that later but remember the line seven and a half points. Yes okay yup okay. So we covered the cbs thing The one more thing that i wanted to say at least is still in regard to. Cbs is it is it was so nice to get the. Cbs team broadcasting the game. No romo is is isn't can we get romo just permanently that guy. I learn things from him. Every time i watch a game that he's brought he has real insight. I mean i don't know how. I guess you're not a coach because you don't want to be a coach but i mean he doesn't want to work hard wanna work that hard he teaches you s. He's a fun guy. You could voice to this antonius showing gronyea's schilling doing his car his corona commercials by drinking beer and getting paid and then he does this broadcast where he doesn't really need to prepare that much for it but he knows this game like the palm of his hand and he's so good at it. I really no. I mean madden was the first guy that really taught me things you know. He is to do the diagram the plays and you. Could you know see things. And at that point i was already a student in the game and i knew plenty of you know how to draw plays and driving and i used to love the way he would draw playing. Gwen powell you hit the guy boom right here. That's not right out of him. You know love them. The only bad thing about who is a raider. But yeah yes. Oh romo's that guy now and he's different but i he's fantastic. We've heard so many i. I don't wanna be overly insulting but we've complained in many episodes about stupid things that we've had a bunch of bozos are that's where we have. We have a bunch of jerks. That that You know we're making stupid comments from the before the game started to. After the game ended it was terrible. Thought this guy was so enlightening beautiful. It was just gymnasts and ham and dance is smart guy too and he's done all of his homework and he play by play. Great play by play and then with tomas rosny The color you can't ask i. I was beautiful to see that. Yeah hey look this defense to is going to have to do this. And that because of the way the safeties are creeping up and talk to us. Congress coming motion because motion reveals. You know where your coverage is in terms of right here. Yeah all of it. Yeah so needs to get rid of it quickly because there's not enough guys busy. I'll be those blitzer guys on the line right here and and only five guys block in. So he's got to make his quick reads and fantastic. Yeah so enough gushing about tony. Romo never a cowboys fan. So now but i like the guy. The guy's likable. Yes even though. He fumbled a snap is ruined his team's playoff chance. Do remember as he was holding the extra point or whatever it was. It was terrible really bad but tow but as a as a quarterback and has this as a color commentator. Even more i i would say. He's even a better commentator than he is quarterback wise but he was a good quarterback man just brilliant. But anyway we get the ball we get the pelota and immediately go three and out which i hang my head. I'm like terrible. What would really bad play calling again. And so exactly. What i predicted and complained about in the last episode is exactly what happened. I mean if the defensive coordinator listened to our podcast that chiefs defensive coordinator. Then he knew what plays. We're going to open the game with a couple of runs inside. The tackle doesn't matter what running back we have. And so i think at opening and scripting needs did get still needs to get some A big old stir stick in there and and things need to get whipped up a little bit so we didn't open the creative way that I was hoping and expecting us to open knowing that we're going against the super bowl champs and and then You know immediately. i'm getting. I'm actu- i'm getting down on. Grant is a wide receiver. I'm beyond down on him. I don't want to. Because i keep seeing him dropping stuff. The challenge you know is a challenge in so speed is the benefit that beats the height challenged that he has if he can get the separation. No one else get because of pure speed good but if you're wide receiver you better catch the god freaking ball You know in the end and we've lost some significant play opportunities because he can't bring a ball in so and he dropped a you know last week you drop that pass. I was dying to see his. Do the full stride bomb. And this week i down drop rate here to to elitist to three now. Yeah yep still love him on special teams he is a special teams guru. Yeah that's what he is. He's really good at that. But you know this drop was just it was bad it was. Yeah there's one later was later on this. Even were probably worse. It's not a straight up drop. It was challenged but yeah so And then of course you know the night it looks like the nightmares going to begin at this point. Mahomes going right down the field hitting kelsey hilaire bell bam bam bam i am i don. I done i done. And then my man. Andrew van halen genk tips the pass. So you gotta give him credit because byron jones. You knows a freebie for him and and credit to jones. His hands were not stone for the first time but however what did jones do on that. Return fumbled it. There's the stone hands did come in on the played wasn't that stone had he didn't know what the hell what to do running with his he has. I was a suitcase. I think the first time he ends at that anybody says he was saying peewee wall or something and he's running this ball. My god i caught it. I caught him. What do i do now. And this people look people flying all over him and he's holding a loaf of bread and i'm thinking to myself. Holy would you talk that thing away all my boom. He fumbled and i i when he fumbled. I could've sworn i saw kansas city. Pick it up and it was probably because my mind was already going like you. You know you you really blew this But somehow we did recoup. I don't know who who we covered. That i was Oh octa i remember now. Yeah i looked at my notes. I looked at my notes in there. I remembered real quick. It was but so he recovered again. Now that's a revenge for recovery. Have i ever saw one. Yes works Right was it. Okay yeah so it was interesting to see us try we we get the ball back. Obviously as a result of that first turnover and Are broadcasters are getting excited. oh there's he doesn't throw interceptions and there's one already in you know the first quarter and And it was interesting to see at this point. i kinda wish they'd open the game with it right The boden trick play because boden has played quarterback so it's not just like any receiver rolling rolling out in jet sweep and then trying to throw the ball. It's guy that actually has thrown the ball as part of his career But the problem. That's persistent with our team is that no one was open thank. I am so thankful that it was not a true wide receiver who had just forced the ball in many situations. actually it. yeah. It was actually a guy who'd played quarterback and said no one's open. I'm throwing it away So right so the same. And by the way later in the game and it didn't work the second time for the same damn reason when we're on the subject of boating and and you know that i i've been a big fan of his before the draft and when we acquired him i greer that a great job acquiring him. I thought that Can i ask you this. Isn't that an perry the same guy. Well no i think. He's much warmer quarterbacks. Now in the receiver position. I think voting bonin boat into my. My opinion is more dynamic player. He's more playtime. And also okay. One guy played a navy and one guy played in the sec. There is a little bit different one one guy. One guy had an incredible numbers against pretty damn good competition and and he showed it yesterday. This is the first time we've really given this get a chance but we had other choice but the point is he came through even before some of the people started to drop. So it's yes incredible. This get he's got all the talent in the world and i can't wait to see him development Which you're this drive ended. Sadly it was another little rock in my gut when sanders and missed a forty five yard field goal. and you know it definitely had an impact. In the results of the game. Different things would have happened. Different plays would have been a. Yeah yeah of course we would have been able to come back Possibly and to tie the game you know that was pretty nasty so yeah it was an unfortunate missed opportunity that we know how the now we know how the other teams in the nfl feel. Yeah we're like used to automatic. We're spoiled by him. I was i was. I was having my eyes glancing at this one game. I saw this kick of his four field goal. he's the lido. How rational yeah. That's i mean sanders has missed. The sandman has missed what two field goals and we and we were all crying over this one. You know what. I mean it's fine. He came back within himself. Yeah yeah so. That's where the kansas city gets the ball and we just we smother them out again and we have the fatal a fun one too. There were two things that happened in the kansas. City's possession both that i wanna wanna call. You wanna do the sack because it was wonderful. I love this act and was funny because when it occurred. I was thinking of the bob greasy. Play and i really thought this. I haven't seen this happen since that. Misa bill bob lilly. God bob greasy on a on a twenty nine yard sack and and it was pretty close to the same three yard line. Where greasy was sacked. If i recall and was watching it going and then when the when the announcer said it i go got him listening to really these. These guys are just awesome. Yes that they knew that they knew that he called it. That you know we knew it. We were reliving the moment although was thankfully not a dolphin. The got that loss that got sacked by also big props to baker man. We every week we notice how. How many tackles how fast he is. He's been playing so well. Yes hampton. cossack that's right. This sack was a little bit on. Mahomes ego bingos. That guy felt like. Hey i can loop around and outrun these guys and baker wasn't having any like nope i'm faster than you. You're going down. You're going down here. i'm gonna do around. And then throw a kelsey fifty yards off by has to get a little credit for this too. Because he's the one that forced him to scramble to begin with putting the that was absolutely brilliant. And it's kind of funny that they got so many yards at the end of the game. Abide health statistically having this type of a drive. You know negative thirty play. I mean that's amazing. Yes it is. It is and and boy. My man van halen almost changed this dr even before that the the He got penetration when When they miss. Snap the ball which you don't al- either right. And it was between him and getting on that ball homes just barely and i mean barely got it before he did so. I don't think it was a very good snap. And romo says he took his eyes off he did but that will that person that good to begin with to give them a little credit on that but yeah he jumped on it and he was fastballs. Did a great job recuperating himself and getting that ball because they would have been a used turnover but it didn't matter we got the ball back and we execute it then we did but i got mad again again so we opened the drive. This is seems to be the pattern that i recognize and we talk about and and again if this is all with the play call. Yes so we open. This drive was another. I what am i not say. They say we open this drive with two runs. There's eight defenders in the box in a fourth. String running back in. You're trying to run between the tackles. How stupid is that isn't that it's negative one. They put eight guys in the box. They're there for their cy. We're their daring you to pass on them and you know what they'll take advantage of it. Switch play you know what those two. Those two carries netted right one yard or something negative one year. Yeah i i don't even have that in my notes but i remember it so i remember because it was you know i. I know it was terrible. It was like i was already like okay. We're putting you know it's just like these guys are just you know we're going to tell them stupid. Little bubble screen or something here but no we went down field and we hit a second second. Yeah and so this is we can start to introduce the topic of the fifty fifty ball because this was one of them I mean you seki wasn't really open a second you know. He's a big boy but he doesn't have a lot of people say i've heard announcer. Say he gets this grade separation. I've never seen it. Yeah me either. Now i don't see it. And i think one of the things that he was criticized his rookie year that he wasn't able to get off the line of scrimmage very well because people were chuck him and he he was not able to get past it. He didn't have the astral. Move or what. It's too slow out of his gate or whatever it is about. You know lacking a just the initial quickness guess he's not perfect but man can make some amazing catches and the reason that that first down happened was twofold one. It was a perfect pass. You could not have put that anywhere else and give him a chance to catch the ball and then guess Goes up and makes another great catch to make that happen. So it was one to you know really greatness. I'll bet you. The percentage on that throw and catch is very low stances. Yes yes. And and what. I what i saw in the game. Is that what we've talked about that. There's a great chemistry between him into a and two is throwing those fifty fifty those throw them. Open the tight windows. Whatever you wanna call those things. But i've heard a lot of people talk about to his game and without fast forward into the end of the game. We all saw to a. Did i mean. He threw some passes. Then you know they look a little risky and that same thing now. The people were criticizing him of the same thing that people were curse him before but opposite we was before saying. Oh he's not making those throws he's not taking the chaz. He's not throwing them open. He's not giving the people. The fifty fifty shot is literal literal growth right before our eyes. We we saw and we saw him do that because he had to. There was no other way around. We receivers not getting the separation. And he has confidence in koseki because parker given the chance he didn't he didn't deliver. If you guys and girls are watching this game another reason. I i like a romo so much. Come the low romo love train today. I guess is one of the things that you and. I have been talking about in this podcast week after week after week after week. About the lack of separation the need for wide receivers. He highlighted it he drew sighs s around all of our receivers out in the field and every one of them was covered and that was awesome when he did that. I was so grateful for the fans that talk crap about two two had nowhere to go that time he just instead of eating the ball he threw it away And he says and when he said this is terrible My heart stopped a little bit. Because i was like. Oh shit going to criticize tour. We not that you know. Just who is our golden boy we we. We don't wanna hear bad things. We don't want to use our our hope. We are invested fully in him a hundred percent and to an and when he said that i was like thank you. Tony that makes so much says look. Nobody's to us facing more often than not. That's what he's and when they are open. They dropped the damn ball. The i mean it's like You know okay so anyway. So that dr he he does do stupid place and then he runs washington. He is a completion in anyone's washington. The middle right again but this time at least there was a game so six yards i was. I think that was his outburst. Washington's numbers were really pedestrian. Yeah i don't know if you wanna talk about it now but they were not doing some reform well and well in some reforms is very. Here's here's what we're looking at with. He had thirteen carries for thirty five yards average. Two point seven yards a carry and in similar to what we had last year tour had twenty four yards on six carries which is what we expect. We expect it to to run the ball. More yes than than he ever has and six carries i think is his career high. I'm pretty sure it is. I don't know. I'm never sure career. You'd think i would remember. I read lots of interesting details. But that i you know i don't think ever counted is runs on the other side of the coin Their number one draft choice as many people have have have said that Should yeah clear that we should have actually had him and we should have picked him and well. He had sixteen carries for thirty two yards. His his average was worse than than washington. Yeah yeah. In fact hill one carry had as many yards as you remember the consensus during the draft. Was that he was not the best. He was a surprise pick right. He was not ranked the best quarter best running back in the draft. He was drafted. He was considered the best catching the ball out of the backfield which is of course a fit for their offense in which of course they don't really use that much. i mean. did they did yesterday. He caught five balls for fifty nine yards. Yeah that's certainly made a difference. Ensure that sure did he played. He played finish this drive. Because it's an important one right. Yes take another observations and we'd have to cover every single drive by In the end we scored so yeah and it was it was a it was a well-designed play. I'm not sure who actually buys gives seki staying into block but he's quote unquote state into block and then released and that was that trickery is what created him being open and And got we had was able to go up so we had we had grant before that. Catch a nice pass from eighteen yards. We did and he caught it. And i even wrote grant caught a ball. Yeah i know a little bit sour that point so yes Yeah i mean if you ever have the chance to be in a room with me. While i'm watching the game instead it's definitely i get pretty emotionally invested in nodded. Not as calm as he was out on the podcasts. I witnessed that myself several times. When you and i have screaming at the tv at the top of our voice. Like what the heck just happened so then these guys get the ball back and one more time our defense comes through man yes and not only come through but another turnover of the second pick now matching his season total and it was kind of the same situation Row ended up with this ball. But it's not because of anything special he did I think it was a zone. D if i remember correctly and he was in his own position. It was because the ball was tipped once again. Now I didn't go back. I was intending to go back to see who tipped it. Do you know no. I don't all right. Well i wanted to give credit where credit is due. But we're going to miss on that one for now but it was pretty cool that we actually got a second interception when he like. We said like you said he never had the whole season. He had to in assumptions. Now all of a sudden he's got to in one quarter in one quarter match. The whole season watt. This is This is not mahomes making mistakes. This is our defense. It's every player stepping up and given the extra effort and it's a it's a result of head coaching and culture change. You know people aren't taking place off. They're making the most of every opportunity just little that little slight edge right and we've got it and the slight edge like that comes from People believing in an giving extra. So i love this defense there so exciting to watch. That's a great defense or watch and imagine how when they actually play together a little bit longer and really get to know because you know in sports in life but it's especially sports When you know what your partners doing when you have a feel for yes so much easier. That's right yeah. I i teach that you know when i'm when i'm cheap. Teaching an agile transition at bringing Transition company and. I'm i'm teaching teams. We go through the four stages of the team. You know from Forming storming norman and performing right. And it's real. It's a thing that actually happens with teams of people who work together in any profession longer. You keep them together. The more you pay attention to High positive culture and high letting things the better off you in the performing in. It's certainly works that way with sports. I mean a lot of the metaphors that we draws Coaches adra coaches in in a business coaches. Come from sports. i love making sports metaphors. Football's perfect to you. So that's what's happening here you know. And that's i think it can continue to get better with exactly the thing that you're bringing up only get better. I'm going to beat a dead horse here. And i'm gonna do it intentionally. Right because we get the ball back and gaily continues his pattern of play calls. We opened up the next washington. Running between the tackles on. First down I why does why does every drive. Why does this happen so frequently. Because he got really good results on this when he got to yards. I if i see it finally are planning about it. Aren't other coaches studying. This recognizing the play call pattern. I just you know. I kept waiting for the play action on that on that play. 'cause just just yes. That's the bay one right me doesn't want me to. I mean the defense will probably just be frozen forever and on the tracks. Yes you think we're gonna come out so maybe we'll come out and run you know. Run up the middle and then the next time around you you think this is a pattern that gaily just doesn't break and then we did play action in it it you know. And then we start seeing between runs and play actions and pissed off. Run often enough for for defenses to really get into fight mode gaily said that we were going to go into that quick mode that we were going to go into that you know no huddle mode and we didn't until it was. We were way behind and it works are no. We're going fast forward here but it seems i gaily doesn't get a feel for the game and he doesn't seem to understand who the hell is tour and what to can do well to lebron's and no huddled damn well to a runs a bronze the harry up. Blackie was doing this the entire life to that. He was doing this when he was in hawaii. I feel like galea's rhythms are Oscillate just like a lot of other things. Like sometimes he gets in a great play them any in he's done designed some good plays any makes you know consistently good calls but you got him. It's not all it's not all coordinator it okay but it is all coordinator because what has worked for to where we have seen him shine and just look back at the games that he's played extremely. Well it's been it's been in a hurry up. He's been killing people on that Why don't we see more often seat in the first half. Yeah i mean we got ten points in the first half. that's it yeah first quarter and the first well the second the second quarter but to drive started in the first third the third quarter. We laid a doughnut. And we still didn't go hurry up and finally we said it's time to do it and then we start moving the ball scoring and we really make a game so i don't know jim nance through in there something. I didn't know lee score demon. That's where you're going. Yeah you gotta to yeah. I'm like i. Yeah he's done his homework. I actually didn't know that that the leading score in the nfl the whole league are the in. The first quarter is the dolphins. He take dad. Kansas city i did. I had no idea honestly had no idea i know we were doing. I was so much happier than previous years in how we were doing. But i never thought we were number one. I think we were one of the leaders in the league and and putting up doughnuts in the second quarter. I mean i don't know rollercoaster a thing i mean you don't but yeah so so we did get the ball back i we know on the on the inception we drove it down we worse. Yeah you're right. you're right about that. Be doing it intentionally right so the first of two weird things happened during this dr twice in this game a guard gets downfield on a quick pass. Play not a guard. Yeah one guard is the guard. Yes guard davis. And how the hell that he get down. Feel on the on the on a quick. Pass play shocking. The second one is even more shocking. I don't it doesn't even it's totally illogical it doesn't make sense you know it's a passing play. You're you're not running down the field for any reason if it's a run play that's when you're running down the field because you're chipping. A you know a defensive lineman you're headed immediately for a linebacker because you wanna take the linebacker out and give that Give that running back a chance to get to the second level and beyond you know that's your job especially as a guard or pulling guard is is to run down field but only on running plays. You're going to do in that on a passing play so it happened one and then once again later i don't get it but when it happened we had just done the play that had just been completed. A sixteen yard pass Took a seki. Yes bound to kansas city. Twenty yard line. I down here. We go everything great and called back. Yeah yeah and so. Then you know then again we We get to see boeton. You know growing as well. Because he. I wanna call him out again because yeah 'cause we got him the ball and a quick pass and he made a move that just faked brillon right out of his shoes. It was a great move. He's early. He was leading receiver for the game by the way And he played at indiana. I think next he he probably will be again unless anew england tries to do something to take them out so the end of this. Dr has one of the To his key mistakes one of his two key. Mistakes in the game He throws a ball. It's challenged in the end zone to parker who should have caught it. You know under duress even and He dropped a tough. Td pass but if you just took a glance to the left there is janine grant all by himself. Nobody close to him. Okay so grant. Either grant would have dropped it wide open or erupted. Is that what you're saying. I mean i. I think he made the right choice in going to throw to wide open receiver as krant okay. He was going to the number. One was covered hands on that ball. He should i think to and he's brought in in the past. It's not a consistent. Problem with him is not well. You know i. I don't know i mean he. He got injured this game. He went out and the report is going to be playing next week. Hopefully nano. it's pretty much. He will be less thing. I read said we hope not. It could happen pretty. It was pretty from what i read. It was not one hundred percent but damn close that he'll be able to suit up and play next. We need somebody. Might be a decoy for for boating. But i don't know yeah. Whatever works men. Draw up. Make it happen. We need to beat the patriots we must. It's a we want to go to. the playoffs. must win game next to are must wins. Both of them. Yeah and then and then. Kansas city got the ball back and they did a one of those typical. Kansas city drives for place. Boom boom blackout. Kelsey and i just and i just put a techs out to the group saying we're stopping hill and and it wasn't like like a like on q. City says okay. yeah. I know you're stopping him. But you know what we're gonna do. We're going to run them instead of your obviously shutting him down with the past. We're going to just run him around the end and he's going to get away from everybody and use his to speed and tiptoe the sideline and he got a touchdown thirty two yards. One play boom. It was and it was. Yeah it was. It was devastating. It was boom boom. yeah the whole unfairness world. Why what a difference it would have made if if we'd had vanoy and they didn't have hill or something like that we're talking about a hill was he was sick for one day or something. We don't know what it was for. One day they said was illness illness. And we all race and broaden you date or relax or whatever. Yeah because i think our defense could have focused if kelsey was out focused on hill and then fill was out on kelsey and it would have made a massive difference in the result of this game but It was not to be. They had both Monsters out there and both of them killed us so the next two possessions You know we are a couple of months. They stop us. We stop them. We get the ball back and their grant. You know the guy you wanted to throw to wide open He gets thrown to and he does the typical grand thing. He can't come up with the damn ball a jumps up in the air wing the tour intercepted and he gets blamed with his with the interception. That should have been a catch. He did under throw him. We romo kept bringing that up. It was underthrown but then romo said but he should've had it. Yeah that's exactly it it. It reminds i keep mike wallace. I don't know why keeps bobbing his weight and reminded me a little. Bit of the mike walls thing he'd get open but then wouldn't come back and aggressively fight and fight for the ball. And i think that that he fought for it yeah ryan. He got hit him but he doesn't have great hands if you're playing madden Grant has a lot of speed but bad hands. And that's exactly what he did. It was intercepted and date turned that interception which by the way is to his first official interception of his we both know he should have had a couple of more and has been very lucky in which you know what i take luck you know what i do. I love luck. Um if you have if you're lucky person in life a lucky quarterback mike guy. Give me that guy. I wanna hang out with that guy you got people out there. There's the results are ws if you have a friend that's lucky a you have a friend. That's unlucky. hang out with the lucky one. Okay yeah yeah you might have the unlucky one. You guys will be stuck in some elevator having knows what could happen to you. The lucky one. You'll be walking down the street and you win prices. You walk into a place. You know you lucky. Things are going to happen because the person's got to has that to a hasse luck to do to throws the ball. It looks see. It looks like it's going to get into september two goes to the guy's hands and boom we get it marino marino those ball. He's going to get into something tipped all note. Chicago bears touchdown. And that's what you wanna see. You wanna have a guy like that because you know he he is skill is now you gotta have the skill. He's got all the skills to a show that he can make the throws he was going through the progressions per perfectly. You know one two three boom. Make a few mistakes this game when i'm gonna call here shortly. He knows he did but he put us in a position to win. Her coordinator woke up. You know this. This interception it goes on to are they. Get the ball and in typical. Play this disk-drive they'd really took it to us. There's nine play drive. Yeah they just took it down the field and boom Scored the tashjian. That's it the same day elsie. Yeah they hit the hit kelsey. We know you can't cover kelsey that long as he was when he starts doing that. Little running around to the right to to his right side and then he just hits the perfect Passes calcined sober is for. The last mistake was a mental in an awareness mistaken on the ball back with thirty seven seconds left in the half and no timeouts and were moving the ball and then to a hang holds onto one for too long and takes us when with no time tele. Yeah we were close. I mean we were one more play away from being in field goal range and that would have been one point game going into the half instead of four point game going into the difference at the end of the game again. Yes the end result would have made a big difference there so it was kind of a missed opportunity in an an a mental error somewhat onto his. There are times where he needs to. You know understand what's going on in the in the greater picture of the game and make sure that if if he's not gonna throw it that he throws it away doesn't take a sack in that situation. It just wasn't like it was boom. Someone was immediately in his face. He just held onto that one to a bit too long with pressure Yeah he did. He made a mistake. And that's what happens. All right the next whole part of the second half you know the third quarter might notes are pretty smart sparse. it was a it was yuck okay And it started the moment. This is another reason that The both the coaching of the chiefs and the play of moms is so good right. What happens when your safety goes out of of the opposition. Yeah well immediately go there if you can call a play. That highlights the strengths or weakness and puts pressure on that position and they did and immediately mom sees it and goes right at him And it was hilt and he blew his doors right off for another long score. But you know that play us. Two things jumped out number one mahone. Is you know the best quarterback. Like i said in the park as i possibly in the history of football you might eat. Bite ended up being that guy he could least. He's just. I mean. I never saw brady throw the higher skill set than brady does. That's for sure. So earned it but he did it again against us when i when i know and i see a lot of games that he plays when i go like oh he just threw it away and all of a sudden you see kelsey catch the ball. Forty years down the field. What the hell that ball looked like. He looks like he's literally just flinging it like i'm just going to throw it away. Because and then he hits perfect scenario and by the way the quarter scoring. I took a look at this. Oh well You were speaking in number. One is miami but you know who's dead last the jets. Yeah i know you would think that right you would. The jets have scored a whopping three point. Five that means the all the all the scoring half is in the first quarter you know. They're averaging three point five points per in the first quarter but funny enough. The team with the worst first quarter is a team that we're third quarter first quarter first quarter oak. The i say third quarter first quarter. Okay the team with the worst gory in the first quarter in the. Nfl is a team. Were playing next week mainland. Wow wouldn't have guessed and then washington jacksonville denver new york jets in chicago philadelphia. And what are they all have in common. They all suck yeah. They're all suck except denver. Who could upset anybody and philadelphia. Who is a big surprise. Yesterday with jalen hurts it. There might there. One of my favorite teams woke up. We're gonna get into that y philadelphia's one of my favorite teams now. I wanted to win out. Men do. I want him to win out. I hear you. I know it's coming okay without you without us talking about it in advance. I already know okay. So here is where the injuries really start to hit us. Parker goes out. Grant goes out so we're down to what are six or seven th. What did you say. What i know is hand eric. He's like that where you know our our number one receivers now our number seven receiver. Something like well. I mean it's funny but it ain't funny man. I mean what we do. The injuries this crazy part about that. Is we now. You have a rookie quarterback with no safety. Valves they're gone. Dare you now have a rookie receiver. We've got out yet at this point but yeah keep going you. Have you have a rookie receiver. Who was a quarterback being your leading receiver thinking about that. He was a water back in college. Now that is not president that we've seen it happen a million times having knows we've heard about ten hill. Oh yeah we had a quarterback who was a wide receiver in every single Moronic pot Podcast yeah broadcaster. Get bringing answer brought that up so we heard ten thousand times through his entire career you know he was a wide range. Even college shot up. We had two guys that were legitimate. Quarterbacks played wide receiver for the dolphins marlin briscoe was one and the other one was freddie. Solomon and they. Both those turned out to be damn good yesterday did privacy. Wide receivers yes. They both turned out to be damned. Good so maybe bolton's number three. That would be awesome born and we'll be number three i. I'm sure there's been others. As that comes to mind. Freddie solomon he i think he played for south florida and he was a quarterback. Can he was a very you. Know you're running style type of quarterback and chula took converter him and he did great. Yeah yeah same thing with briscoe. So yeah so we have The mischievous scored twenty eight unanswered points at this point. Twenty eight unanswered points so the blowout is on full. Blow out his on the wheel. Come off the bus like what another donut in the third quarter. I'm texting to the group is like This is the point in the game. Where i have to keep watching because i have to do a podcast but i don't want to and well. Yeah good that. I kept watching and then the safety happens. Oh jeez just insult to injury there and that again was another mistake of till so the tube glaring mistakes. That was a big one. Yeah that's what. I saw those two mistakes that that that two points you know. They come successfully read the defense. He didn't successfully react to the play happening around him. He held on the ball too long when he could have gotten rid of. It should have gotten rid of it. He had enough time to get rid of it. You know given the circumstances knowing that you cannot take a safety. It's worse than any type of sack and yet terrible there was so that was a f- you have to rank the mistakes definitely the worst one in the game. So but we know. Rookies will be rookies so And we have to expect stuff like this. We've seen veterans. Do the same mistake. Sure sure learn you live you learn and You know he was trying to make a play for a while. We we just had green bay's number. I can remember green bay coming to miami and and everyone's you know farther such great quarterback and they're gonna kill us and you know i was living in bill's land at the time and you know there was a lot of back and forth and i remember farve. You know taking a safety that he shouldn't have and just going nuts over it so okay but anyway we then punt it again or after the safety and they were driving the ball on us and i was like this is over. This is this is going to be another touchdown. In looking really bad they were moving. The ball will and one key play happens that sparks the whole team And it was amazing. It was probably this man's best play if i had to pick one. This was his best play. This was in the fourth quarter because remember it was at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Yep and now we go into our hurry up after we do that turnover by mister howard. and our third interception of homes which is now we're we know we've probably going to intercept him down the field and it was miserable. You know oh yeah yeah we we got intercept mahomes by the end of the day this when you look at his career. Statistics miami will be up there with three sessions. I mean that's that's absolutely crazy. Howard is just he's magical. How does a guy just consistently keep doing. This gives visiting away. balk man. The best ball hawks the we have par non and and and and you know now we take the ball back and we drive on them. Eight place eighty yards boom touchdown. Seki again again. Yeah and it was another amazing. Catch going up there reagan. That thing in yeah third. Thirty to seventeen is still not a game at this point but it was nice to see that and and perry hollins and she shaheen shaheen. Shaheen's a big name man. Keep that guy in your mind cause next week. If you're you're playing fantasy there's a good guy play because he's going to. He's going to have to get a lot of volume a lot of volume. Yeah we're tied in short again so Yet oh yeah. Geez cheesecake the ball back and they can stop us away. And and and this drive ins in a sec by wilkins. So love calling out wilkins or something. I don't know why. I love this guy so much. You got a man crush on him and he he makes plays but i i just find him in incredibly entertaining so whenever he gets in front of a microphone. I i like to tune in in here what he has to say. It's like a a happy funny personality. When when i'm you know became good at reading people's body language and tone of voice and energy and stuff like that when when somebody's like him really positive really good energy really good body language. It's a it's kind of a joy to watch and listen to them and he's one of those humans so he's definitely a very positive person And in high energy high mortar guy but But then the next drive we get the ball back That was an amazing drive. I mean that was to a they were. They were putting the situation difficult to miami. There were actually you know there were there were. There were been stopped the blitzing but they were really discussing everything up trying to really confuse to a to a went fourteen. Play seventy five yards in almost six minutes. One of the comments have on this drive to put on a show. He murder now. We are now seeing what his capabilities are because koseki got hurt on this one after being thrown on his head right and it looked ugly and was ugly and the results ugly. Who knows how long we're doing this podcast league day earlier than average and two days earlier than last week and so We have less information at our fingertips to we. Don't know but we do know that koseki in all likelihood is going to be missing next week and we sure have him out. We're gonna have gaskin out most likely and so it's going to be a positive test that means you. It's going to be longer for him to come back. And hollins actually got behind the on on this drive and And to under through him because that actually would have been touchdown if he let him just kind of weird that to us had a couple of under throws i think he's trying to just put it in their little bit perfect and he doesn't have the right timing. What is there. your ladder is what i think. Because he hasn't had a lot of time with them and he's down to the seventh and eighth depth wide receiver and so even the guys that he did have time with are all gone so but he this dr. He uses legs. He he ran. He didn't i mean he did everything. Man i mean he. He took this dr. He hit I don't even oy. I can't even count here. But i think like six different receivers. I mean it. Just hit receivers all over the place shaheen he. You know everybody. Everybody got hit Boat and of course made another play. That guy's incredible. Yeah he's shows he shows are good future so lots of things to think of when when looking at who we do have and the growth that can come out of these young guys And the last comment on this drive to after scoring the touchdown was. I'm so glad that this team has a culture like this because they never give up the never give up. Give up hip and and that's something that we've talked about and that We were we ever see miami. Give up. We'll be shocked in just not that culture team has that fight in them and the team has that grit. I mean it's a gritty team. It's a it's a. I mean they have a lotta dog in them and they just do not give up this team place all out the end sixty minutes the nightmare for anybody to face us. I was very happy with this. Especially our fearsome defense that can turn a game around instant so you know. I thought the chiefs were going to. There's very little time left on the clock. The chiefs are martin right down the field again right down to the twenty yard line. They get. I think just inside the red zone is right around there and i and i'm like okay so this is easy and the game for them. It's over right. I was still holding out hope at this point. Thirty twenty four only six points the defense cranks it up again in him for a loss and run and then another loss and pushes hits them for a couple of losses. Moves back behind the thirty yard. Line i'm like well now. They're going to line up for field goal and the defense was so aggressive that we pushed him back far enough that they have they could miss it. Unfortunately they deny date like a good team. They have a great special team. Yep yep and the special team is really would want them the game. Yes that and we didn't even mention they're a punt return for a touchdown. Yeah i mean their defense and special teams has got him nine points and that's a mistake on our special teams that we have not seen all year so so special teams like now but you know this is a special team and this is a team that has weapons all over the place. Weapons a galore. But we held them to twenty four points of you know defensively. Our defense held them to twenty four points. We scored twenty seven had our. That's the bottom line. Yeah that's the reality. We held him under thirty points. Like we talked about that. That was our goal. Offense gave up to and our in our special teams gave me seven. Yeah so so basically you take nine away from thirty three. It comes out to twenty four and we scored twenty seven. So who wins that game. Yes right so ways to look at this if you're a fan and you're down because we lost don't don't be no you can't be because future is bright man that in itself was my number one thing and we were talking about the moral victory. Yeah here's one of the things just like the trap game. I don't believe in the moral victory. Well and i do but i'll draw a line so you can start and then i'll counter. What here's the moral victory is. This is the super bowl champions in a in a must win situation against a team that could have every excuse on earth to be a loser. Say y'all we're missing so and so we're missing. That's why we started the podcast with those people. So i wanted to show how the odds were against his team and easily of a past off team or a gay sled dolphin team will with and we were going to ask you. Just like just like the ravens. It wasn't that thursday night. Yup from years back that it was just humiliating. You got no fight. The team is laughing in the sidelines. They don't care i mean. Can you imagine somebody laughing around floors. No no need laughing around shula. You feel the same yard. Yes exactly i on these two guys laughing around gays. Yeah okay yeah okay. Next right okay. So moral victory emmy okay. Nobody wants to lose. Nobody says that this is a feel good lost. But i felt so good yesterday after this loss in the sense that of course i wanted to win the game and was ten. Nothing i had the grand lucia just like all dolphin fans. But what i saw today was or yesterday was A great victory that it is to me a moral victory The fact that our our team just because of our special team which never really. Let's now like we just said that. We all scored in twenty seven twenty four big victory right there the fact that we did at seventy seven total place to sixty one. This is a team that i know they score fast but we we. We control the ball against them by three minutes. Thirty one and a half to twenty eight and a half. I mean we had more first downs in kansas city. Twenty seven to twenty two when you look at all the numbers scott from up and down this whole thing is social also penalties. You say you know well you know. This is a a a read coach team. Well coach or this is a florist coach team and they did three penalties for thirty five yards dolphins They did eight for fifty six. Yes so you know again. Showing signs of all the signs are up on miami to running that office to bring it back. Floor is not taking out because after that donor in the third quarter. You were worried about that man. I was petrified. I was like oh shit. Here comes here. Come fits and and he and he might as well draft somebody next year. Because it's over a quarterback. I mean it would have been just disaster. He we kept them in there. And we're all feeling damn pretty well about ourselves. Had to a plane with no receivers and all i kept thinking about was. Oh my god the draft. We're going to get this guy. Some weapons and this is gonna be exciting. We know running backs all right. My turn offensive line decimated and we still play. Well yes. so here's where what. I think about the term moral victories. Moral victories are for the fans. Only they're not for a coaching staff. And they're not for a team and I read. I already had this argument in mind and then i post. Read our monaco's article which bradtha said the same thing and it reinforced my thoughts already. So i'm not giving armando mondo the credit for putting that into my brain already had it in my brain and it's such an important distinction if you're a fan and i encourage you to do so take all the positives from this and look into the future and and think about what this means right there. It's it's amazing to see what we did even in a loss and and look take it and look forward with it but Coach floors delivered the right message to the team. As don't feel like there's any such thing as a moral victory you lost and you lost because they were place to be made. That weren't made and there were mistakes. Made that shouldn't have been made. And here's how we go and here's how we get better and do not ever accept a loss because that's the culture that's the never give up culture he's continuing to instill in this team. So the team itself should not feel satisfied that they hung around with the chiefs. The teenage needs to be hungry to sade. Damn it we just a couple of different plays a couple of non drops couple of smart decisions That we need to do right. And we're going to be anyone out there. Anyone i i agree and i think that that's I agree in the sense that that is the attitude to take. And i don't believe that when you say moral victory for the fans know as a coach you're going to be you're going to be doing that improving thinking but you also thinking holy toledo. Were not that far off. We got all these odds and we overcame them to a large extent. Okay we outscored them. Offensively reserved their defense. I mean there's a lot of positives to be little to look at and things that you can work on so to me. This was that to me is a definition of a moral victory is. You're not feeling happy you're not. You're not say. Hey we want. We're both titles both get a trophy. But we're saying that loser attitude to everyone a geography now that real life that no they beat us. They deserve the. They deserve to take all the marvels home. But you know what we are the we. We're a real team. And that's something to be reckoned with. And i'm i'm a dolphin fan. You walk out with your shirt today. Nothing to be ashamed of. that's right. that's okay so moving along quickly because we're running out of time scott quickly. I want to touch base What's happening with the draft. Okay and philadelphia one yesterday. My guy we need to cheer for philadelphia because looking at the teams ahead of us quickly. houston continues to do a tremendous job in in losing and losing their. They're looking like a team. That can beat anyone right now. I mean i now have some sincerely. I have my my vicious that. Cincinnati can beat them special. That'd be good. They are so bad. But what i did is i took a look at the teams ahead of us and who needs receivers because that's going to be our number one big well. That's the certainly. The alex signs is the gm number. One pick by far indisputable. So we look at the jacker. Scare greer team have been doing a pretty good job recently. Especially i mean if you think about all the picks they hit on this year than ones that we didn't even expect that we didn't like like rick. One davis a holy cow player. I saw a picture of him. Surrounded by other dolphins linemen and linebackers and stuff and he's like head and shoulders. He's a monster. He's like an ogre. He's a giant is a large human right there so so as solomon kinley. I mean th the somebody's draft. These are animals. It's just beautiful giants. I love it but look quickly on this. The jets quarterback jacksonville has to be quarterback. Cincinnati does not need a quarterback but they also. I don't really feel like receivers. Our weakness is defense office of line. Right i see them taking an office of linemen number one or they're gonna kill this guy. Yeah they're going to kill burrows you might have you know then you've got. The chargers definitely not not not not a quarterback but also. I don't see why receiver us or weakness. They have kita now it right. Who's number one. But he's age on them now. Okay but i don't see. I just don't see it. Dallas cowboys just drafted a number one receiver. Their defense cannot stop a paper tiger. I mean they're they can't stop anybody. Mice see them carolina. I see them going. Quarterback atlanta falcons have more wide receivers in any other team. They have two number ones. Then comes the dolphins as it stands right now now. The eagles guess what they need. They ne- why receivers they need office of linemen That team scares me. 'cause they could go for receiver. The new york giants a quarterback after what they did. They need a quarterback in detroit. Lions all these guys need. I think quarterbacks. And i see the big need of why receiver as philadelphia are the things that are And you think maybe the chargers. I don't see that the chargers may go. I'd receiver to are. They need to give they definitely need to give the young quarterback more weapons. That i don't know how you could say that when they have a great tight end they have a number. One can't stay on the field. He her every year. He's not this year and he's a top five receiver and the nfl is getting alan Well yeah the argument. Keenan allen but mike williams is not lived up to the bill. I don't see them taking a high pick anyway. So my but what i see here is the office if we can maintain this eighth or maybe even move up a little because for some. I don't know how philadelphia's behind houston their records four eighty one And houston is four nine new. Somehow somehow we jumped him. I'm not gonna argue. I'm going read into it. Maybe somebody made a mistake and now now every every single draft has a draft orders. Seems to have that for us all right. Well that's another. There's still three games left I think there's only one potential win on houston's calendar so are likely to end up a five win team but they could lose. They could end up before win team in that would make a big difference but his a cool thing about the eagles. There's gonna be a lot of cannibalizing we talked before. One of our broadcasts. Radio's playing the cardinals. Which should be a loss eagles. I hope the eagles are then playing the cowboys. Which is flip the call for the divisional that might be for the division title. Right now the redskins maybe op. Sorry the washington football team. I live on you on. You look at data okay. So washington football team They're playing the eagles in the last game of the season. Right washed factor washington game. Probably i think that game is the one that's going to determine who what loser team from the nfc east goes to the playoffs. So so you know. The giants are five and eight. David playing good football. Troy's five eight. San francisco's five eight. I mean this is really crazy. Denver's five and eight and all those things are behind us or behind houston right for nine And atlanta's bad as they are. I think they should be pushback. And we should move up atlanta carolina and the and the cowboys in the chargers are for nine. Tie with houston. Is that crazy. All of those teams could win a game left on all of them. So it's it's really. I mean we're we're looking like we always said and people laughed when we first said this we were. We're gonna get a top ten pick from houston and that's what it's starting to really shape into that More realistic now is. There's only three games left so quickly scotty. On the new england game before we had that pennsylvania's a victory. Then we had it pencilled. In as my god new england just came up and then new england came you know. They they crushed. The chargers destroyed them took them. You know Demolish them and then new england guests demolished by the rams right just owned doubt the team that we owned. Yes oh so now. I think the balance of the scales are again tipping in new england favor just by the fact that we injuries we are so injured. And we're not that good of a team to withstand these injuries on offense on offense and on defense. I mean well really early in the week. It's it's keyed the jury still out on. Who will play won't play. It will be great to have robertson vanoy back. i don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully it's likely we look at it. This way. dolphins vans if we're going to be in the playoffs. The next two games are must win. The must these are winnable games. Given all the circumstances we must beat the patriots. 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Fifth-Year Options Picked Up & Declined from 2017 Draft

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

40:16 min | 1 year ago

Fifth-Year Options Picked Up & Declined from 2017 Draft

"Hey what's going on everybody? Welcome to another edition of the move. The sticks podcast. I'm right Lewis in four. Dj Today alongside my Guy Bucky Brooks Bucky. What's happened to man we are? We're working our way further and further away from the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft which means we are closer and closer to the twenty twenty one nfl draft. That seems weird. To say doesn't that's preferred to look at it like look. Twenty is in the rear view right through the windshield and man. Twenty twenty two twenty one. Yeah talk about quarterbacks and excitement and guys and all of that other stuff like we have plenty of time to talk about it this summer but it looks like it will be very easy to keep listeners. Engaged with quarterbacks talk about next season yeah no question and I think I speak for just about everyone planet earth. We cannot wait to get rid of twenty twenty as fast as we is has been one heck of a year man and we're still right in the midst of it but we're GonNa make the best of it here and look at. It also turns out to be a year in which we unfortunately one of the legends. Not just of the NFL but of the game of Football Don Shula passing away this week. The coach of the Miami Dolphins and guided them the only perfect season we've ever seen in. Nfl history seventeen in NFL title Super Bowl Championship and the Patriarch Bucky of the first family of football coaches. Both of Don's sons Dave and Mike both coach and super bowl his dave son. Chris has coached in a super bowl. They've had generations of Shula coach in a super bowl. I mean this is a family unlike unlike any other that we've seen in the NFL and And we lost a great man and a great coach and the stories have been pouring in the tributes have been pouring in bucket you entered the league and and Kinda right in the midst of of the Don Shula Heyday there. Yeah it was crazy about it. I actually have a a game ball somewhere in garage. Maybe my parents house where I fumble recovery was actually against the Miami Dolphins special teams back to the Miami Dolphins and Don. Shula three things that come to mind excellence. Perfect season most wins of any. Nfl Coach in history. I think about consistency. Thirty three seasons on the sideline only two losing seasons source wanting to be excellent of. But it's another thing to be consistently in the hunt always Kinda in range to be able to compete for the title. And then the last thing is adaptability the adaptability that he displayed going from Baltimore whereas pounded with those players. Running the ball. Earl Merle Come into Miami. Then is the Miami Powell machine. Larry CSONKA Chik Mercury. Morris. You had two quarterbacks and Bob Greasy and being able to have the the no name defense moving onto the killer bees when I was like a like I wasn't even a teenage maybe ten eleven twelve then changing the style with Dan Marino. And those guys and throwing it all over the yard. Good coaches put players over system and Don Shula was the master of being able to assess the situation and then put in a scheme that enabled his guys to play at his best. So excellent adaptability insists those things come to mind when I think about don show man. That's a great way to put it and like I. I unfortunately never had a chance to meet Don. But I've met his Dave who obviously we know as a coach with his dad and Miami Through some of the super bowls and then went on to coach the Cincinnati. Bengals is now the wide receivers coach. Believe at Dartmouth with buddy evens. Got Back into coaching in the last couple of and you can see the type of person that Don Shula was by by meeting the other members of his family. I think a man that was built for others that love to engage others and an organiser was a guy who brought people together talking about Dave here. I saw him every summer at the manning passing academy and I just I loved being around him he loved. He loved coaching wide receivers. You Love Coaching the young kids. I think that's probably why he got back into it. And I think everyone that Kinda came through there and had a chance to spend some time with David was better for it and then I had the chance to meet his son. Chris who kinda worked his way up was a graduate assistant. Mile will moderate Indiana under Kevin Wilson and then jumped into the league and ended up being an assistant position coach with the rams worked his way up to a full time assistant coach. Now with the Rams says the outside linebackers coach there for Sean McVeigh. So like he's just a a you know it's a family that understands what football is all about the understands what relationships are all about and I think that that is a credit to their the patriarch of that family and dawn and I think his legacy will obviously go on forever here in the NFL and in NFL circles and his thought highly of. I don't know anyone who does not think of Don Shula in the highest regard. So certainly our condolences to his family in thoughts. Go out to them as they as they mourn the loss of a great great man so with that guy. Let's let's move on here on the six podcast here and one of the bigger news. Items in the last couple of days was one eighty getting released by the Cincinnati Bengals Bucky. Obviously one one move that we expected little bit unexpected though to see him sign so quickly with a team in which he doesn't have a clear path to the starting job at least in the near term. It would seem so to two ways. You can look at this as a surprise one that well the cowboys got an actual another starting caliber backup quarterback and then the other piece of it is wonder Andy settled. I guess for that kind of role. Do you look at it. That way at all. No I don't I don't look at it as dead. I think there are a couple of things that are at play with the Dallas Cowboys. Making this move So often we we view the backup quarterback position. We don't necessarily give it the value that it needs because a lot of times if it goes down we just kind of throw away. The team's chances of being able to compete at a high level for the Dallas Cowboys. I think this is insurance. This is like insurance on your whole. No one wants to pay the premium but then when the House has a catastrophe you'd certainly want to cash in on the policy. The Dallas Cowboys. Were able to get something that you rarely able to get. That is a backup quarterback who can actually play regardless of what you think about Andy Dalton in the last couple of years to fall out for the Cincinnati bengals kind of collapsing. The last three years the first five years of his NFL career he led to Bingos into the playoffs. He had the third most wins of any quarterback during that period The first five years starting quarterback and when he is surrounded by a very good supporting cast Andy Dawn absolutely came Wayne Games. When he's not he just doesn't have the talent to elevate an average squat without a playmakers on the outside and that is fine. I think in this situation what you have for the cowboys is insurance against Dak Prescott. Getting injured insurance against a long drawn out Hold out or or it's not even a holdout. Whatever he just doesn't show if he doesn't sign and come to camp on time and you have an opportunity to take a team that on paper looks very very talented and at least be very competitive team a team. That can win games in a short term. Stretch any dawn as a quarterback. You okay so I should clarify. I meant I wasn't surprised to see the cowboys. Make the move right. That's a little bit surprised to see Andy. Go that route now. Maybe that was the best deal that was out there and he wanted to sign quickly. You want to drag this out for his family in these uncertain times. Let's get in. Let's go go go back home to the state of Texas where he grew up in Katy Texas and played at Tcu and that that tells right sort of make sense right. I guess I just thought that he might have an opportunity to go to a place where a starting job was more in his grasp than like. Okay that gets hurt or doesn't come to camp on like I thought. Maybe you know maybe Jacksonville with Jay groome there. We thought that might be an opportunity right so anyway. So that part of it just surprised me from Andy's perspective a little bit. But I guess seeing the way that this is dragged out for guys like dragged out for Jaimes Winston still going for Cam Newton. Maybe we shouldn't be so surprised in and I. I think I think what Andy Did was took. The security of this deal is all on the table. Let's take it also. Let's understand WHO's coaching Mike McCarthy if I get a chance to get in there Mike McCarthy has enough experience. And how put me in a situation where I can look good? This good jumpstart the second part of my career as a starting quarterback we saw what happened with Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans. Drew brees goes out for five games. Teddy Bridgewater gets stance and LO and behold. Teddy Bridgewater gets an opportunity to be a starting quarterback. Andy Dalton Agree Situation. In that vein. Dak Prescott has been durable. Yes missed start. He's been there just in case he gets hurt. They have a guy who can go in and for Andy standpoint man. What better way to do it into play at home? There's stability because already have a home there. I don't have to worry about like my kids. And changing and all of those things so it is a perfect situation for him to be able to jump in and step in and kind of like make the best of a basset yeah. I think you're right there so like once you dig in. You can kind of see the reasons why and so now the cowboys again this. This is a great opportunity for them to just kind of continue to stack that quarterback room in the event that they end up needing some of that depth there with Andy Dalton. All right so let's move on to one of the other big kind of topics these last couple of days which has been the fifth year option. Game which is due now overdue for the members of the two thousand seventeen draft class. The deadline was Monday for teams to decide whether they would pick up the fifth year option for those players which means the option year. Twenty twenty one right so they were drafted in seventeen. This is the myles Garrett number one overall year and then you play that seventeen. Eighteen nineteen twenty season the fifth year for all those first round picks is an option for the team to decide whether they want to pick up or decline that is then guaranteed for injury only so if a guy gets hurt and can't continue to play. He's on your books no matter what for twenty twenty one if you end up picking that up if you don't they're free agent unrestricted free agent in twenty twenty one right. After this season we saw that happened this past year with Jack Conklin and the titans. They declined to pick up his option after making him a top ten. Pick back in two thousand sixteen. He ends up having a decent year in his fourth year. After a couple of down once following his rookie season ends up signing a huge deal with the Cleveland browns. So having a team decline your option is not a death knell it can in fact be very lucrative windfall for you in fact that was the case for Jack Conklin. We've seen that. We've seen other other teams decide to extend their first round players before they even have to worry about picking up the option. So that this year with Christian McCaffrey. Who was the eighth overall? Pick who was extended and the panthers then didn't have to worry about picking up or declining the option which they obviously would have picked up if they didn't have the extension so let's dig into some of these players here mentioned starting at the top bucky miles. Hold on let. Let's talk like just coming from a a community standpoint. The reason why the fifth year option pickup or the client is a big deal is because in most counting circles people say it takes three to four years to really determine if a player can play really three years because three years. We'll give you forty eight games to be able to look at a player. See how he grows in your system see if he is being able to be a viable contributor. Meaning the thought is if you tear the first round meaning in the top ten the expectation guys drafted in the top ten if you have a top ten greed. You're expected to be guy that kind of falls loosely in the top five or top ten of your position throughout the League at that position. Meaning you should be a high end player at your respective position as we cross reference your talents all around the league from ten to thirty two the expectation. You expect those guys to be solid starters and key contributors meaning. They should be on the field. Seventy seventy five percent of the time if they're rotational players but they should be start as you expect them to be starting lineup. You expect them to start making ways and really kind of solidified themselves as foundational pieces to your franchise and so when you're making these decisions on the option year. A lot of it is. Do we view this player as a foundational piece? Like we can't live without this player. This player has so much value that we have to keep him as a core player as part of a nucleus that is eventually going to put us in a position to win championships and so when teams are making these assessments when they turned down the opportunity to extend them in some way it is a failure it means either. The player didn't work. The SYSTEM DIDN'T FIT. The player is but it's an acknowledgment of A. We might have got this wrong for a number of circumstances and instead of extending trying to make us right. We're just going to move on and see if we can find another player that can give us what we were looking for the position. Yeah and I'm glad you set the table that way that's That's an important perspective. Have as you kind of assess some of these guys that were picked up or or decline here. As I mentioned this is the myles Garrett draft number one overall this look. This was a no brainer pickup for the Cleveland Browns You don't pass up on edge rusher talent that that's why they took him number one overall. Despite what happened at the end of last year I think all can expect myles. Garrett to return to some sort of dominant dej rushing form in which he had for the last couple of seasons. That was that was the no brainer. Right now the next the next four players of that top five I mean. Wow Wow four of the top five players picked in the twenty seventeen. Nfl draft had their options. That means a team again. For whatever reason deciding that they wanted to forfeit the opportunity to keep them under control for a fifth year. That's Mitchell trubisky with the bears traded up one spot with the forty niners to select it number two that Solomon Thomas with the forty niners their number three John. Lynch is I pick as a general manager Leonard Fournette running back from the Jaguars who just had a serious roller coaster type career with the jags and then Corey Davis which was a bit of a surprise. I think to a lot of us. There ended up going number five to the Tennessee Titans. So let's start right there with that. Cluster of players. And then I guess we can kind of role in for the forty niners fact. They came back into the first round and Got Reuben foster their ended up having to cut him for the off. The field issues redskins picked him up his option declined. Also so just to kind of bring that full circle but what sticks out to you there but that top five bucks man. What sticks out to me about this draft in general is just how all over the place we were when it came to those prospects myles. Garrett was a talent I think most people could agree. Mccue talent super explosive. Athlete has some production out. Still say like he was probably drafted on his athleticism more so than his playing ability because he's such a remarkable athlete and Freak Athlete. It is is But it worked out Mitchell trubisky. Bisky is a tough one because Mitchell trubisky has earned a pro bowl ed elation. He's been to a global. He's missed selected for that and people can say as a fans vote or whatever you still You get that the the tough thing and why he is so closely. Scrutinize is because the bears not only moved to get him but they bypass the opportunity to get to Shawn Watson and later Patrick Mahomes. Oh by the way things were picked up you picked and I think the big thing is like the Pat Mahomes thing because I think Panchmahal is actually a hard evaluation because he was talented but he was so i. Guess Sandlot freestyle in his play that it was kind of hard to see how he's going to play because we hadn't really seen a player that came that came into the league with a game like that translate and have Big Time Success. Does Shawn Watson was the one for me. That was tough because this Shawn Watson Mitch. Trubisky played in the same conference against the same players to Shawn Watson not only lead his team to conference championships but he clearly outplayed. Mitchell trubisky was a better player and so for the bears to see something that most of the outside world didn't see that was tough and so because of that he has come under. So much scrutiny. The scrutiny may even exceed how bad he may have performed based on expectation. But it's hard for people to look at him and look into Shawn Watson and Pat Mahomes and say that he is in their same class that quarterback that quarterback draft is a tough one for bears fans to stomach. No question but again. You're right about the Patrick mahomes thing. I don't think anyone mocks or talked about the chiefs flying up from the back of the draft to come up to the tenth spot and take Patrick Mahomes. So you know. It's tough to say all the bears go to take too well yet. They could've but nobody was no-one. No-one knew right in going back. I I'm looking at this thing. That back at the time so I wrote a thing on all pro's pro bowlers stars and on that list there is no pet. Hey I don't have homes listed in pro. I don't have them listed as a pro bowl about two two guys added to position listed. We're Shawn Watson. Had Mitchell trubisky at the bottom of that list so I was like a is a huge miss only and I think the thing With Pat Mahomes. I have notes from scouts that talked to like man to talent is immense but good luck fixing them. Other guys saying man. The talent is crazy like whatever but how would want to draft him and so like. I don't think anybody new and a lot of it. Now is a perfect storm. He went to the right situation with the right coach who was able to tap into his creativity without having to put them on the field early. And then it just were in fabulous player. And I'm not saying that he couldn't do it in other circumstances. Sure but for us. Our imagination didn't allow us to see him as an MVP in Super Bowl win in three years. We just couldn't see that like I mean anyone who says they could see that he would do all these things I mean. I challenged them on what they saw. How anybody could see it translating like that. Yeah I think we could make the argument that Solomon Thomas. Actually had one of his better years as a pro this last year in a rotational role though for the forty niners. And that's probably not something that that the for whatever. That number is for Sally. A number at the fifth year probably not worth it as a rotational player. Right and for a guy that was drafted third overall the whatever like when you drafted and that ranger expected to be to be a takeover player and he hasn't shown the ability takeover. He's been a good player. Not a great player and at that that That where he was taking you expect them to be a great a dominant player like a transcendent type player. He just hasn't been that He EOS coming off a solid year. But if he's still playing import as part of a rotation it's hard to justify paying him what you have to pay them on the fifth year option. Yeah and again you know the forty niners have done pretty well up front since that draft pick. I mean they had you know Eric Armstead deforest Buckner at that point. We were Kinda surprised you know. Like oh wow. Do they go defensive? Line for the third straight year. They ended up doing it and it doesn't end up working out but it does worked out with Nick. Bosa this last year and then perhaps with Japan Kim law this coming year so the last one here that I want to get to as a singular item of the top five is Leonard for net because You know it's just it's a little bit of a mystery to me. He was such a dominant college football player when he was healthy. And I think you could say the same in the NFL when he was healthy and he was right with himself with the team with the offense with the philosophy was a good. It was a good deal for the Jacksonville. Jaguars and ten years is ten games his rookie year. It five a couple more than five hundred yard games. He had one hundred yard game in the playoffs. He was a big part of the offense. He limited the exposure of Blake bortles. And the jags made a run in the playoffs. And and that's what kind of thing you started to expect. And then whatever reason. He ran sideways with Tom. Coughlin and with coaching staff and he had suspensions. And it's all this stuff that I didn't. We didn't talk about a lot leading up to draft as possibily like is this a red flag character. We just I never heard that leading up to the draft and so as a shock to see it it is a shock to see it and I think if we go back and we look at his collegiate career. I think you could probably make the argument that his freshman season at Lsu might have been his best season in terms. Yeah how impactful he was and because he was a right now star. I mean you're captivated by the way to the play toughness. Eddie played how he did the dirty work and all of those things he was. He looked like a much boys when it came to to play that their freshman year. I'm going back. I'm looking at. The numbers actually wasn't a freshman sophomore year. He went for nine thousand nine hundred yards. My Gosh he went for ninety nine hundred and fifty yards and and in his junior year he only had a hundred and forty three yards. And or something hurt. He played seven games. He was her durability things came up and we kind of gave them a bit of a hall pass. But you know what's about that? We did the same thing with Christian McCaffrey. Because Chris McCaffrey's last year was not his best year sophomore year. He was amazing that's when he challenged Barry Sanders record. I think he surpassed is scrimmage yards record or all purpose yards record at Stanford with a ridiculous season that he had and then this final season ankle injury never quite looked right But look he he strung together as a pro. I think the bigger thing is stylistically. Delete has continued shift away from the Lynn for net. Type at running back and quietly Leonard. Fournette has seventy six receptions like but we we still have the vision of him being the one dimensional classic hammerhead running back and he is caught the ball. He just doesn't look like the cameras McCaffrey's in terms of the way that they use them and so it it will be interesting how you plays. I still think he has value but his value is to a team that plays like the Tennessee. Titans a team that is old school grind it out physical football team. He would do well in a in a situation like San Francisco Minnesota I believe he has been hindered by the office of coordinators that Jacksonville. Jaguars have had in place John. Defoe Lippo was not necessarily a grinded out. He wanted to throw it and run it the game through the quarterback running back and so it just makes it so it just makes it tough because I don't know if his talents have been fully utilized but he also has done himself any favors with his behavior so the next kind of group of players that I want to look at it the wide receivers in the top ten I think we I know I was surprised to see Corey. Davis go five. I mean we hadn't seen him workout at all in the run up to the draft. He had the injury so then you had Mike Williams go seven to the chargers and he had a little bit of a back injury concern. You know coming out that last year at Clemson Right. We kind of wondered you know. Might he fall chargers end up picking him at seven and then also picked up his option. He's had some really good years and it kind of seems like he is still on the upward. Climb in his. Nfl career. John Ross for to to get it speed I get it I I missed I missed. I missed on on John. Ross and I missed on him because I thought he was a more complete receiver than he has turned out to be. And also he he wisconsin behind able because he had the shoulder injury that he waited until after workouts. These right worked on so he's always kind of been behind the eight ball but he certainly hasn't been what you would expect a top ten receiver to be. The speed has been there. But he just hasn't made the plays you thought he would. He would be a bigger more impactful Playmaker and it just hasn't worked for him Done in his first but not enough for Corey Davis my biggest issue Corey Davis when he was in the conversation as the number one. Corey Davis played at Western Michigan And lookie came out of nowhere here to really good years those final two years there but in the comparison between Corey Davis and Mike Williams to me might we play against tougher competition and dominated and I felt like if we switch places and put Mike Williams at Western Michigan. He will put up even greater numbers. We put Corey Davis there. Maybe he would do the same thing. And so I had a tough time with that and then when you think about not being able to work out and those things I just worried about it. He's still has talent. He is flashed the connection between him. Marcus Mariota just wasn't there and then this year. Aj Brown Brown's began to Alpha and there's a comfort level with him and Ryan Tanna Hill. Then he just Kinda took over and so you just. Kinda wonder about Corey Davis. He just hasn't played up to expectation. Yeah and just kind of going back and looking at John Ross's career as well your APP. So that was my. That was GONNA be my point. There Corey Davis. I mean we watched. Aj just completely take hold of this. Is that number one which is strange to see for a number five overall. Pick to sit there and kind of let that happen. But that that's the way it is and so now he'll be corey. Davis will be an unrestricted free agent following the twenty twenty season. So on John Rossier. He broke out in a big way. And we kind of forget that we won this past season. Seven balls hundred fifty eight yards and two touchdowns and you're like oh here we go. Here comes John. Ross next week four catches one twelve and a touchdown. Like all right. Here we go. This is the John. Ross that we thought we were going to and then just nothing he gets hurt Mrs ten games or nine games and then you know kind of almost never really heard from again so you know that's kind of been the Mo for for John Rawson. That's a big reason why he does not have his option picked up and so we get half of the top ten having their options declined and you set the table for us at the beginning. Those ten those top ten players are franchise building players. They are franchise player. Plays you count on to to reach your goals. And that's clearly not the case for half of the players in the top ten of the two thousand seventeen. Nfl draft all. I want to single out a couple more here. And then we'll get out of here the one that's that was has been interesting to me. Kinda since. His career came began because we had a mocked sometimes up at number two with the forty niners before they traded. Either I'm talking about me hooker. The safety from Ohio. He had the injury hit the growing the Labor from the hip that I think precipitated his fall to number fourteen in the fifteen in the Indianapolis Colts that year they by the way have declined his option and he was hurt again. He get an acl a second year so his career started with injury. It's continued that way. And I don't know that that has played into his inability to impact that franchise bucky but clearly. They've seen that. They are perhaps preparing to move on. Yeah is weird because he was such a talented athlete. Even when we had urban Meyer come on lashing. He talked about me. Hookers basketball background. How explosive an athlete he was. And when you at a state he had natural ball skills and just picked it up really really quickly and when I look at what he's been able to do for the Colts yes seven interceptions in his career. He has gotten his hands on balls. He has been active and around it. He just hasn't been available twenty seventeen. He missed most of the year. He's missed a handful of games in the following seasons and you just have been necessarily seen it. That's it. The talent is there and if the light comes on you can just see how he could be a really good player. It just for whatever. Reason hasn't fully come on but the dude is talented and certainly worthy of being picked where he was picked he just man for whatever reason like it just hasn't worked and it's really unexplainable. Yeah it was part of some trade Of scuttle around around the draft. Might they be trying to move on from him. beforehand. You know before this season I also I. I don't know that this draft gets the credit but man really good cornerback. Draft Marshon Lattimore at eleven had. His option picked up Dorie Jackson. It's been a really good player for the titans at eighteen. He had his option picked up. You all the way down to Davis White you know arguably the best in the class at twenty seven race no question and then I think during commonly for variety of reasons You know it was kind of bringing up. The rear in that group. Had his option declined by the Texans traded for him last October. You know what the surprise to me this. This whole deal was the tight both of the first round or two all tight ends. I should say in in the first round of this draft. Had their options picked up. I think no shock to see the giants. Pick up on Evan Ingram but the bucks picked up. Oj Howard and the browns picked up David Giokoo especially for the browns after signing Austin Hooper to that contract. I thought those two particular Bucks Picking Up Howard and Browns picking up in who bit of a surprise. Were a bit surprise. Based on the conversation that had come out of their those buildings or leads conversation. And come out of those bills about those guys being Kaunda underachievers based on what we thought they would be coming into the league but The teams picking up the options speaks volumes. About how the those teams viewed him I think in Oj Howard's case He kinda has been viewed as expendable because of a rob Gronkowski thing and I would contend that maybe Rob Gronkowski is kind of like the designated hitter and that lineup where he's going to come in and out of the lineup in stretches not be four-time player for the bucks and Oj. How will have an opportunity to be the OJ Howard that? We thought that he could be in David and jokue. There's no doubt that he's talented. And it'd be interesting to see how they pair up with Hooper. Both guys have similar skill sets but we have seen chemistry fan skiing. The KUBIAK system utilize tied ends effectively. So we'll see what they can come up with twelve personnel package in. Evan Ingram Hampshire and a little bit plane with a younger quarterback a season ago but now he should be ready to rock and when I think about this offense and the weapons that they have he should be a primary in the past. They should really jump around him because his ability to control the middle of the field it shows is shown flashes. I would think that he would be a key. Part of the rebuild. Joe Judge is doing a New York. I mean arguably number one receiver in New York. Not even really. I mean it's kind of been there most talented guy and could be their number one target for Daniel Jones in his second season Let's see I think you could make the argument. Maybe not even an argument here but TJ WATT at thirty two the steelers and Ryan Ramczyk at thirty two the Saints Warranted First Round Selections. Sorry warranted top ten selections in this draft. When you go back and look at it hindsight's twenty twenty but those were terrific value. Picks at the bottom of the round terrific value picks. And you know as one of those things red light we when we talk about it all the time on on path Those guys don't get enough credit like sometimes like those fixed aren't viewed as sexy picks. But they ended up being the best ones. Tj What I remember The challenge was it all kind of came together for him. His last season The production jumped out. You saw him make plays but you just wonder it took a long time for him to pop as as a college player. And why and would you get this in kind of Production as a pro. The degree thing for him I feel like he went to the perfect spot. Because Pittsburgh has always had a knack for being able to find three or four edge rushers and they put them in positions to grow Ryan. Ramczyk was a bit of a surprise. And maybe because he wasn't an athlete. And maybe some of it might have been The Wisconsin Orelon shirt. Where you wonder a is it. Is it really him or do they get coast up? Do they have any more upside? Had they been maxed out? Because Wisconsin's coaches do a great job of really developing their guys to that point and I think sometimes I were autism. Liming Kinda get the same pushback over there kind of Max out because those those staffs have done everything in their power to squeeze out all of the juice out of the player and so maybe he didn't get his fair his just do when it came to his ability to be a a longtime started in a really really good player for the. Yeah and I. I should go back by the way and 'cause I I skipped over Marlin Humphrey at sixteen. Who's been terrific player for the Ravens? That was a really really good corner. About how about how about the class. Humphry Davis White. Adobe Jackson has been good particularly as a return. Sean Lattimore Marshon Lattimore. All of those guys have. What did it come to nominate is like looking at those traits interesting to see? What does it come like right out the gate? The first thing that stands out to me I think Marshon lattimore and Adobe Jackson were very talented track. Athlete very athletic Morlin humped reinsure Davis White. We're very skilled technicians Their technique stood out. And maybe it's a mix. Great athletes greet technicians. Those guys play I I. I do wonder but it'd be a fascinating deep dive into their first round in the house and wise. Yeah and just the one guy. We didn't talk about in the top ten Jamal Adams I mean I think that was a no brainer. He's been a culture changer. It seems on that defense in New York as a safety from. Lsu Remember we had we interviewed him and Davis White Bleed together on path to the draft and that was quite a talented secondary that year for Lsu any of these other ones stick out to you. There was a trio back to back to back at twenty twenty one and twenty to the broncos declining Garrett Bowles the lions declining jared Davis linebacker and the dolphins declining Charles Harris the linebacker from Missouri. That year I mean Gosh I mean Harris barely barely heard of him. Down there my. He'd never never got a chance to really do anything. Yeah no never really gets you instance show and I should say the Falcons actually opted not to pick them up. They ended up trading for Charles Harris. So maybe they see something in him but it was their option to pick up. The Falcons decided to decline it yet. I mean and they just don't have enough experience with them to know who he is and what. He can't be sure that makes sense. You know but is definitely interesting to kind of watch it play out yes so let's see And that that pretty much covers we Taco Charlton. I think we all Kinda thought was a little bit of a reach at twenty eight. Maybe more of a second round player ends up getting released by the cowboys waived by the dolphins and now the chiefs have signed Taco Charlton but his option was voided. So he he didn't. He didn't have an option to be picked up or decline. And then I think that that's pretty much most of the highlights from that one Anything else that you want to dig into here before we We say goodbye. None and I think I think it's a fascinating study. I think everyone who loves the scouting game has gotten in business. Should go back and look at the two thousand seventeen class seventeen first round and just kind of figure out some of those lessons. Yeah we did that. Last Day of path of the draft the lessons we learned from this year's draft and what we saw again bucky wrote about that and his scouts notebook. Nfl dot com slash scout notebook. There for Bucky Brooks to check out. Some of those lessons learned from this one and and see how they help us as we try to predict the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft in some three hundred days or so but Bucky good to hang out with my man again. We'll get Daniel Jeremiah. Back out here. He's just taking a little time to decompress and he'll be back next week to dive into all things move the sticks so again for DJ. I'm right Louis. Thanks so much for hanging out with us here. You're listening to the move. The sticks podcast.

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The Old Man League Episode 6  The 2019 NFL Season

The Old Man League

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The Old Man League Episode 6 The 2019 NFL Season

"Over the hill but still feel like a baller. Welcome home friends. Join Mike and Lee as they bring you the most entertaining stream of consciousness. You can imagine grab drink and stay off the line. This is the man league. Welcome to episode number six of the old man league. My name is Mike. My name is Lee. It's like first grade. Are You doing man? I'm very very good. How's it going good? I'm doing really good. I'm glad to be talking to you again for sure. Our holiday season started today. It did man. What what did you tell me yesterday? We we don't have a weekend without football until after the super bowl. Yes Sir Buckle Up Dang I love them and it just makes the different does. Although I'm going to admit something I feel slightly guilty about is I. I feel like I'm just. Ill prepared for the football season. In general I feel like this year. It snuck up on me. Yeah I agree. But that's a good thing that means we're living life. That's the buckle get serious. Yeah buckled down and get serious which we never ever do. We'll try your best anyway. Yeah what are you drinking the night in honor of national? Ip a day? I have edrich theory. Which is an amazing brewery in Virginia Some of the best artwork. I think I've ever seen on cans. It's called all shall perish hazy imperial. Apa yet other stuff is like futuristic. robots zombies. This has got a guy with a mask on with a gun okay. Yeah it's a de Oro. It theory check out pretty cool. Interesting eight eight point one percent. Damn Yeah. So I've been on a Paleo Diet and I'm choosing right now not to have beer for at least a couple more weeks but I'm having a sugar. Free Red Bull with some Cherry rum in it so I mean I know you know. I realized alcohol is alcohol but it's less bad than beer right now so I'm just trying to behave as much as possible. Statistic Sugar Bomb Red Bull Monster in Rockstar. Just something with rebels flavors syrupy to me Adding that Cherry which I also can't stand just the so perfect you just hate everything. I originally the Dr Pepper or anything like that. I don't like it. The Sugar Free Red Bulls are a lot less harsh. I don't know if you've ever had them but not to get on an energy drink like tirade here but I've gotten onto these one's called Bang. I don't know if it's a local thing or if you have them there but they're frigging awesome. No sugar no caffeine no calories none of that. Shit. It's they're awesome. I keep trying to quit my monsters and I just can't yeah. It's the one addiction sound so without beer for a couple of weeks. That's all right. That's fine we're coming into fall. So you're you're the good stuff really gets. I'll make up for it for sure. I'm just trying to be healthier and less hefty. Mike you live buddy. That's it so as always. We are sponsored by Pie tailgate. Three sixty five decipher stuff you like. You can find them at tailgate. Three six five dot com or APP tailgate. Three sixty five on the socials. If you're interested in having his check something out for you the product talk about whatever it is up at Info at the old man league dot Com. Obviously you can find us at the old man league dot com where you can listen to us and you can also find us on all the socials twitter instagram facebook at the old manly and of course our favorite color text line two zero four three three six seven four and later we have a couple of weeks and four voicemails that. I have not listened to at all so it's going to be a surprise for the both of us Europe. Oh yeah people come and keep them coming man? I do need to say we will get to the baseball rants. We did not have a chance to put together so we did not forget but we will get that. Hopefully next week yeah. We'll hit that this week. Though this week we're talking about something that we both love very much the NFL. Yeah we're going to spend a lot of time on that today. Offer some really probably biased and uninformed opinions and I'm going to say highly uninformed because I'm with you I've got big time and no one cares about this but our traditional fantasy league that we had this year. I've had it for fifteen years. I could not find a weekend for us all to draft. And that's really a big part of it. So we're switching to Fan Dole for just for this year which means I don't have to sit around with stats and trying to find sleepers rookies in so I just get the focus. We'd want billeting so I think that's also pushed me back and I'm not doing that research that I usually will be doing right now to finish in tenth place so well. It's a different research. I don't know if you've ever used like any of the tools that are out there for for daily fantasy stuff. I have for basketball. I'm doing football I built it myself. There's all formula that I've read. Actually I found it. The football guys. Football GUYS DOT COM. They're actually tremendously. Awesome fantasy resource. That's just a shameless plug. They have nothing to do with us but they're great. They have a book that I think it's called like one of them's cracking fan. Duel MOANS cracking. What's the other one good thing of it? Yeah cracking cracking draftkings. And they talk about the different strategies and just grading the players based on rankings. It's it's pretty awesome like amazingly simple. So I'm in that league and I'm looking forward to what you're going to do with that because I've never done a season long daily thing like that right now. We did one last year. It worked really well. The big thing is remembering to set that lineup in time. Because we haven't been at least two or three instances where someone didn't get there one o'clock's in actually didn't get anything in so once it locks down it locks down damn so. I think it's going to be different cool. Yeah I'm looking forward to it. I actually sadly this year after yours which I obviously won't be drafting in because we're going to do. I have one at work that I'm going to be a concert the night. They're drafting So I have to auto draft which I absolutely like hate and I was in the Super Bowl last year in lost so I was totally looking for some redemption. I'm pissy about that. So yeah all right. So where do you want to start with? Nfl We have. We have a couple of topics for sure and we could. We have something that our good friend. digital ciphers or we all did send us on our discord talking about a certain list that will get into. Would you like to talk about that or would you like to do it? Just kicked off wrong topics get right into it. Because it's just yeah. Yeah it's not great so some guy from bleacher report which I'm not a fan of them in the first place but whatever right. I'm not I'm not going to bash. They work a lot harder than I do what they do. Put out a top twenty five. Nfl quarterbacks of all time list there are some. I mean this is this is a highly debatable thing in the first place right. I mean you could usually. You can look at this and see the top ten and go okay. I mean you could argue the order but yeah. These guys belonged there right. I mean that's normally how these lists work and then it just becomes a little bit of homer ISM or whatever and but my man. There is some stuff on this list that when I first saw it I thought it was the guy fuck controlling everybody but I don't think so. I think this was legitimately. He put time and put this together. Do you want to start with the biggest elephant in the room? Some of the minor debatable issues. Yeah so you want to start with the biggest elephant in the room for this list to me and the most egregious entry is number twenty five and mind you. This is an all time list number. Twenty five on. This list is no other than Alex Smith. Now when I sold that my thought what okay. So He's got a top twenty five in the ways that things laid out in two columns wanted twelve and one's thirteen So I thought it would make more sense like a top twenty four and then this troll pick the bottom. I don't because like you said it's a lot of it makes sense. Can debate of these can defend some view head scratchers. I don't know where this came from. I don't the articles like ha ha. Just kidding I like Alex Smith or he really thinks. He's a touch below Warren Moon. I mean he's he's not even the twenty-fifth best right now it you know he. He wouldn't even be to me. He's not even a starter. At this point you know area. You can't really run. Well I mean other than you know the whole the thighs MMA treatment. He it's and I'm going to say this. And this is the God's honest truth I actually like Alex Smith like when he was kind of pissed off the way. The San Francisco did him because I thought that was wrong right. I didn't I didn't like how they handled him. I didn't obviously root for the guy when he was in Kansas City. Because I hate the chiefs but I still don't think he's terrible. I mean I have nothing against the guy but for the love of fuck he does not belong on any top twenty five list unless it's like like like top twenty five number one draft. Pick disappointments or something. You know what I mean. I don't I didn't even look at the author of this this thing. He has to be a redskins fan right. So or one of the teams played for. I don't I don't get it. I don't know how it's inexplicable this list. I don't see Tarkenton. I don't see low-end Dawson. I mean yeah. I don't know I don't know that's it. Alex Smith isn't even the best chiefs quarterback. You know what I mean like I. I'm at a complete loss. Honestly it's I would even take there's quarterbacks that are playing right now that have played for less than like two or three years Wilson. Give me Patrick Mahomes. I mean he would bury him in a list right now. I think we need to find out. Just this thing. Some more art star. I mean at Banana. What let's just? Let's just go through a little bit okay. So all right. It's the top ten so yeah Brady Manning Montana Marino Unites Aikman Nemeth Staubach regio. Kurt Warner K. I have some problems is not a top ten quarterback all time. Come on. He's not today. There's Joe names truthfully. I don't think I honestly have a hard time getting aikman there but I would. At least maybe put him closer to ten. I mean you. Here's my problem. Yeah Nemeth for sure. Nemeth Nemeth is there because he's Nemeth you know what I mean that's a nostalgia. Pick Bradshaw pisses me off because to me. It's it's a pretty close between him. And and Troy Aikman as to the most overrated quarterbacks in the history of the NFL will get an argument at all especially Bradshaw. I mean if you had put a guy like Marino on those same Pittsburgh steeler teams. You'd be talking about him in the same breath brady in terms of championships. You know what I mean. So He makes me insane and that has nothing to do with with dislike for Pittsburgh. It's he doesn't belong on there. I mean it hurts me to say this. Ben Is better than him. Yeah I mean Ben comes in fifteen. Yeah so when you when you look at times when Ben his head like what you come diva whatever. A nightmare The guys animation career. Say what you want about him. But you know he's got it done You know the interesting one on that top ten to me is Kurt Warner okay. It's had a big lull. You know it's it's Kinda Weird I mean was it great. That's the weird thing. He didn't have this. This fifteen years of greatness. He had a explosion of greatness on an amazing team. I mean I'll give him that and he came out and it's a it's a it's a top ten story for sure and I I really actually like the guy. I don't think he's top ten though. No I don't think I'd put him there. I mean I know you're going to put their well so we'll get we'll get to that but I don't know that I have a problem with one through three at all. I mean I. It's the you could debate one way or the other. I think Marino's definitely I would say he's top five. I mean I don't even count championships. Honestly when I'm judging some of these guys but right then again I watched a good bit of these guys play too. So it's it's hard to. I would bet that the guy that wrote this didn't and so it's hard to put like a tired to rank them without going off of you know the name value versus you saw the impact that they had you know what I mean. Marino was just unbelievable right. I mean flacco either well so now in fairness it's not the top twenty five. Nfl elite quarterbacks of all time. Let's one right okay. So what do you think about the rest of this lists? I mean so. I don't think I would put on way higher. I mean I would probably put elway. I think he's gotta be top ten. He's gotta be over Warner He. In my opinion he would be over Warner and and Bradshaw for sure you know. I think you could make an argument one way or the other. The name of thing that annoys me. I think that's just a name choice. Breeze breeze should be in the top ten. I think we should be higher coming to me raises. I mean where do you go? With brees and Marino I mean looking at passing yards breathes count it but breezes got the titles he does. I mean different. Nfl and everything but for sure yes with his. They didn't want because it was like look what he's done. Yeah Yeah doing it. Yeah he was cut and you know. Nobody wanted to sign him. Can you even imagine that? Yeah so I I get him a little more just because of what he's done with right he's got. You know the one the one on here that I personally feel belongs in the top ten if not I think I can almost make an argument for him tops. Six is Jim Kelly who well? Let's read the next five okay. So eleven is breezed. Twelve Zohreh Thirteen Steve. Young Fourteen is Jim. Kelly and fifteen is big Ben. I think Kelly should be top ten. And here's here's the thing. Here's my two minutes me. I almost I look at guys like Kelly Marino and elway. The same is that elway ended up getting super fortunate and had an unbelievable team so we got some championships but each of these three guys at one point. They were their team for a while. I mean Kelly had an unbelievable team in the nineties like they are probably one of the best teams ever easily the bills of the nineties. They were so dominant. They just couldn't pull through so I look at those three guys and I think to myself after watching them. Play these guys I would say mostly Marino and and no way. They carried teams. That sometimes had no business being there into a conversation and to me. You know. It's like the Jordan argument. That's what made him so good. Was He took guys? That maybe shouldn't have been there and made them fucking great and I do see that and I guess another factor. I've witnessed columnists he you know. He's playing football buffalo in the winter. does energetically MADDEN LOVING STATS. You're going to get there so he was just getting it done. Yeah to your point. I mean he was just. They were just winning So I'm comfortable with them. They're okay I mean but do you think. He's better than Steve. Young or do you think young quarterback think young have more skills More dynamic game but he had that talent around him yeah. He inherited a good team. Yeah so it's tough fix radio at all. I look at it because he could do it all. Yeah he's probably one of the most complete guys you know. He showed Russell Wilson what he could be or Mike. Vick right he was Vic Vic Vic right insane I mean you know what the doesn't that Piss you off to think about the niner's get to go from Montana to stay on the good Lord. Yeah that's what is beyond with Indie. You're really GONNA GET LUCK. Well and then yeah. I'm not sure that's working all I think it will. I think he's fixed. But that will get it that next anyway. So we believe off here Ben at fifteen okay. So the rivers are Aaron Rodgers. Romo in Tony bledsoe drew bledsoe percent. I told you enjoy okay. What do you how you feel about that? I have a couple of problems here but this is just me go ahead. I mean I'm a big Warren Moon Fan so to see him lower than all of these guys bothers me a little bit. Moon is top fifteen without a doubt. I don't like where he is especially behind. Bledsoe in I and this God's honest truth I'd put moon above elway honestly and Elway I would. He's right there. At least I could at least make the argument that he's right there. He was unbelievable. I think that I think is playoff. Record is what hurt him. Though right he was never really good in the playoffs. That's always gonNA dig. It might not be fair when you look at pure quarterback stats. But that's what people are gonNA look at. No that's fair. I mean he could swing it he was. I think he led the League in the yard. A couple of years so he can just throw the ball. It was beautiful right so I I would. That would bother me a lot. He okay. I know we're we're giving back a little bit but so let's so rivers far. Rogers Romo bledsoe him. I think I think rivers is about. We should be I. I don't know I feel like he should be above. Ben Probably a bit. Then then. You're talking what you just said you know. It's IT's playoff performance. It's you know I guess championships. Although it's hard to pin that this is this is a kind of sucky thing. Because I mean the quarterback's they take the heat if they if they win or I mean if they lose super bowls and they get all the credit when they win and it's borderline on fair. Farve and Rogers is interesting. I think I think if we had this discussion a year from now Rogers at eighteen could either spike up or drop a little bit in my opinion it. Because he's it's it's all new He doesn't have as much talent around him now. So what are you GONNA do right? Let's see BARF gunslinger. You know. Probably not the most perfect quarterback so I guess you'd be looking in terms of quote unquote quarterback probably fair. You know he had his weaknesses. Turnovers killer yeah so that could keep him where he is. He's one of my favorite players to watch so but yeah. He had his his weaknesses. What do you think about Romo? I think that's too high especially especially seeing some of the other guys below him. I think it's too I and I like Romo. Actually I know a lot of he catches a lot of shit but I like the guy a lot. But he's this hurts me to say it. He's not better than Phil Simms probably. He's definitely not better than Warren Moon. I mean he I would say probably top twenty five yes but not not top twenty later. I mean this now now. We're getting to the point where I start to have a little bit of a problem with like the Kurt Warner top ten because as much as I like the Guy I don't feel like he was better than brees. Elway young Kelly. Maybe Big Ben. I don't think Philip rivers so I think this is the area where Warner belongs and then a guy like rivers or far or even Kelley should move up. Maybe a couple spots. I don't know if I'm if I'm if I'm finding a good spot for him. It's probably close to twenty twenties Totally bledsoe we ain't got that whatever patriots. Yeah for real. I mean. It's not that bad. But what did he do I? Yeah I'm sitting here and I can't tell you why he was good or bad other than you got injured and and let Brady thanks. Drew done there. No Yeah. Those were not good. Patriot teams a for a while. I mean I I get that when they got him. They're getting better but I'm just sitting here like looking at his name going. It's not like he was a bad quarterback. What did he do? I don't know I can't argue it I don't know all right now now comes the the last five Carson Palmer Bob Greasy Phil Simms Warren Moon and Alex Smith. And you know as I read these out loud. It almost makes me more mad that Warren Moon is below a guy like Carson Palmer. I mean what the fuck did Carson Palmer ever do you had? I came back from an injury. Got Cincy a bunch of draft picks from Oakland right and I don't unbelievable quarterback looking guy. I don't know not impressed. What about the wrist? Alex Michie Higher. He I mean I I. Almost I can't even believe he's on. This list does look at the source of this thing. This guy was just on heroin. Yeah I mean Bob Greasy. What how do you feel about that? I kind of feel like he's there because of his name probably. Yeah I mean just the era. He was in with them. I need look at his stats a little more I mean. Wouldn't you think a guy like boomer size and would belong on this list more so than maybe a couple of these guys But again even like I go back to this Russell Wilson. You know he's limited. Time should be on this list. Yeah so that's true. You bring up an interesting point though. There are what let's see one two three four five. I mean five and a half if you can't Alex Smith active guys on here unless my math is off. There's active guys right now. That blown on here right like I'm sitting here thinking you have no Bart Star right it. No Sammy Baugh. We could probably sit here and go through a bunch of names that are not on this list. And you're right. The current guys should be on here. I I don't like some of these. It's almost like they throw in. Some nostalgia picks to make it make. It seem like it was well balanced. May I know everybody hates the guy but I would say ally manning was a better overall quarterback than Carson Palmer. You know I realize not the greatest. But it's like if you're GONNA put Palmer is a frigging top twenty one all time quarterback you know. I WanNa know what list this guy's basing this shit off of like there's gotta be stats or something like he's looking at all time something all right. What no more anger people talk all right there you go. We'll move on from that. So how about this? Let's move into Let's do a little bit of. Let's do some predictions because I think fucking rocket those man. I called the NBA finals on the money. So let me. I should put my money where you you tell me. I guess I don't know. Where do you WanNa Start Let's go NFC since you and me or both AFC fans will save that all right so we're just GONNA do divisions we'll come back and we'll hit playoffs and super bowl next week. It was drag it out. Could I content? I like it all right so north. Nfc North You AMIGO. I go whatever Divan. Airs coming. Off A heartbreaking loss. Wink BEARS VIKINGS PACKERS. Lions okay So a couple of quick thoughts. I think the Vikings I I think there. I think it's going to be the bears and the Vikings fighting for one and two. I think it's going to be just like they finished. It's going to be the packers and the lions fighting for three and four. What makes me nervous about? The packers is like you said he lost. A bunch of weapons has a new offense. We'd have no idea how that's going to work. I mean in the lions just have to prove it honestly. I don't there the lions right. I don't have anything against them necessarily but I think it's Chicago in Minnesota's division to lose. I don't think it's that far apart though. No I look at it. I think it's three horse race with the Lions bringing up the rear. I could see I think the bears the bears like nine or ten wins. The the Vikings will be somewhere around there but the packers. I think they're they could they drop but I don't think they get to about over fourth So I'm going to say bears when a division Probably the packers finishing second fighting lions. The lions are just lines. Do they always do flowers? Big money they always find one. Big Guy doesn't help because they don't build the rest of the team properly and then they just suck right and it's Patricia another bell. Jack probably fail experiment as the head. Coach never works them. I mean the closest that's been working is Houston but he just got gifted and amazing quarterback so yeah so okay so we're not too far off. I mean I just I think I have less faith in the packers. I feel like it's either Chicago or Minnesota and honestly I think it's going to be Chicago and I think they're Gonna. I'M GONNA SAY THEY'RE GONNA end up with probably eleven to twelve wins. I got him a ten okay. That's fair we're right there all right go to the east the east. Ooh This is a fun division. Yeah we've got a lot of reasons a lot of a lot of our boys root for some of these guys here. Yes they do. We might hurt some feelings. So I'M GONNA put my division winning. Pick out there with a huge caveat. I think the eagles waited again but can win stay healthy. They've got a really tough schedule. I was looking so they got Dallas twice bears Patriots seahawks and then the packers on the road. that's not fun. No so if when's goes down and that schedule they could easily crashing burn. But I think if they if everything holds true. I seem division with ten or eleven wins. Yeah I agree. I agree with the winner. I think it's going to be philly. They Jeez they got Jordan. Howard didn't they I am I. Am I think that right? I'm pretty sure that they got Jordan. Howard instantly I might be talking out of my ass and that's fine but I'm with you. It's our show. Yeah Fuck. Yeah they got Jordan. Howard I don't know I'm too lazy to Google so I agree. I think I think Wentz is going to come back. You know big time because the kid was awesome. You know before he got hurt. I think that they have a good coach. They have a great offensive line. Still they still have a tough defense. Very winnable schedule. I mean it's it's a little tough but I definitely think they're going to win Dallas. I think I mean I want to say that it depends on the Zeki Ali crap. I think they figure that I think figure that out but I just I don't see them. I don't see them any better than they were last year and they were only a game better than Philly last year. Right and they didn't really lose a lot of guys that's the key here. So they held together so they can get him in camp and figure out paying their big three I think they've been a second if they can't get them in camp. There's GONNA BE I. In my opinion I think. New York's going to finish over Washington so I think Washington brings up the really I do. And here's why I watched fucking case. Keenum play here and as much as I like the guy personally and was rooting for him. He's not good and he's not he can't. I don't think he can lead a team like that. Okay I bagus surprise me. Rece- kindred six and a half wins. Giants are six. I didn't think it'd be that close I at the giants at like three to four wins. But I don't think is a proud people. I I honestly don't know if there's nothing there or Saquon. Well that's why I'm giving them the edge against over over. Washington is Barkley is just all world and so I mean. I don't think they're going to be good by any stretch. But I think they're not gonNA finish last dysfunctional. There's no literally the put this thing is ugly. Ride be very upset if I was a redskins fan. Oh for sure and as much as I like case as a guy. I don't think he's going to finish the season. It'll be what Haskins right He'll he'll end up taking over and it's not like Haskins isn't good but we just don't know what he is so it's Philly in Dallas. I think it's Philly though taking I agree with you it was. I write about Jordan Howard. I didn't get lazy do no. I'll say okay all right going south all right I think the saints easily win. This division They lost Mark Ingram to the Ravens. Michael Thomas just got paid like six billion dollars in. I just think there's still too much talent for them to falter. They're like ten eleven wins After that this division is weird. It really is. There's there's so much that could go right. Could go wrong in the falcons. I don't think have been right since the super bowl so they I see them kind of a five hundred team. But the panthers it's all in camps shelter. He's looked better but their team that I think could be seven to nine but they could also sneak into the playoffs So I don't know where to put them but I just know. I don't like the Falcons I think they're Blah and they haven't really haven't stepped out so the team that I'm watching is definitely the panthers. Yeah I agree so I think that it's an I promise. I'm not just being lazy. I I think it's New Orleans Division and probably not even close I I mean depending on Cam I could see them. Being a potential like wildcard team maybe But I don't know he's just he's just not a von Miller broke him an in super bowl. Fifty crushed his soul and so he. He's just not been the same sense. You know. I'm a huge McCaffrey fan. I think that they have the potential to be like a super. You know offensive Juggernaut if they got their shit together but it just doesn't seem like they can I think Atlanta's going to be you know probably in the same conversation as Carolina. In terms of it it depends. I mean they could be a wildcard team. They could end up. You know up five hundred like they did last year. It's Julio's not getting younger. They're GONNA end up. You know backing up the truck for him here shortly because of Thomas. But they didn't really I I don't feel like they upgraded whatsoever like they. They lost Kevin. Coleman Freeman is always a question mark for me and I'll admit that I'm biased because a fantasy because I swear to God he's never healthy. And the buccaneers. Were just a mess. They have a lot to prove whether you got Brazilians. I mean at least it's someone who has one I. I don't think they were as bad as what five and eleven. But they didn't really do anything to improve awareness. J. MISSES A head case. So I don't know what you do with him but I don't see they're just a fun team to watch us there. Is there going to sling so I just don't they don't have a chance? I mean Winston turns it over way too much and I really wanted to like the guy after watching hard knocks a couple years ago. I was like okay. I hope he's turning it around and he didn't so I'm with you. Yeah I think New Orleans. Just they'll probably finished the same order as they did. Last YEAR NEW ORLEANS ATLANTA AND CAROLINA. Tossup it'll come down to a tiebreaker and then Tampa New Orleans New Orleans to me is probably still the best team in the NFC. You could say that. I'll give you that all right. Let's go out west. It's go out west okay. Let's see we got the rams seahawks niners cardinals. Yup I would say I'm going to say the Seattle takes this division. The Rams I you know this is going to go right up there with my Zion thing. I feel like the Rams fucked up their window because I said it last year I mean everybody saw. There was something wrong with girly and they hadn't come out and said what it was but there was clearly something wrong and I told my wife I'm like he's injured and they're just not saying like they're they're hiding it. Which which is fucked up. But anyway he's not going to be the same wants wants these guys start having knee problems. That's it I mean he'll have maybe a few good Games here and there Petersen's a good example of that but he's not going to be the same todd Gurley. I think no I agree. Can I think now that we've seen the Patriots blueprint on how to shut the team down if we're going to watch that film? I think it's going to be a lot different this year. They're still going to be. There's still a ten win team. I think but I do like the seahawks this year. You know they didn't lose a lot. Russell got money so I don't know those two could be a toss up my heart leaning Seattle me too. Yes me too. I mean not just money he got a big ASS. Receiver a decay. Metcalf man that dude. He's looking hoping he'd follow us but if if he holds it together and I heard that like it was just kind of some route running type stuff that he needs to work on but the kid is a physical fucking like freak. I think it Seattle and I don't think it's close. I think it's going to be. I don't know maybe twelve inch wins. And then I think the rams after that but like you said. I think they've been sort of figured out on offense and I'm just not one hundred percent sold on I mean I like their quarterback but I'm just not sure I'm not sure he's he's he's like I don't put them in the category even though they were drafted right there. You know what I mean. But when the coaches got that magic touch you gotta wonder so. I think Brussel gets it done this year. Yeah going back to the BIOS. Though I do like the fact I the niners are going to be fun this year. I think so too. I think they I got him somewhere around. Eight am Garoppolo and it's just fun to watch you know so I really. I hope they don't shift the bed and keep his big going the right direction. But now you've got a good front office team. Seems like it's going the right direction so I don't know what do you think about? No I agree I I feel like they'll be right around there. Like five hundred ish. Maybe maybe even a little bit better. I mean truthfully if if it comes down to Shanahan if he can implement that he's you know he's had some time to install it he's add some time to get his you know personnel groupings. And all that crap. I like Garoppolo a quarterback also so I think that they could be giving the rams a really hard time honestly and he's he's a he's a good coach but we're about to find out how good because you know. Last year he sort of had a pass. It was just kind of built in and this year he really doesn't you know. I love kittle. The dudes like a game changing my weapon out of Iowa He destroyed us. I mean it was like I turned that game off fucking halftime. I was angry. I was mad. He will truck Utusan. Oh God trust me. I loved him in College. I watched him and to watch him. Rip My teams heart out was. It was hurtful the cardinals. They're going to be fast. They're going to be last. I just don't know how last you know what I mean. It's I can't get a read because I need to see Murray play against. Nfl Defenses Right. My whole thing with this clip Kingsbury is failed upwards. Oh Yeah and I. It must be some magic sauce that I'm not getting So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA put a little star next to this will because I really want to see if there's some magic happens between these two and they can. They can make something some miracles happen. I don't think it's going to happen. It's going to be fun. You know at least a c two C Murray play. I think I mean he lost more than half his game to Texas Tech. What what am I missing? Yeah I mean they complain about how he looked in madden high. No it what I love David Johnson like. He's I don't know about you but I have several guys in the league. That are not on my team that I just really like. And he's one of them. I Love David Johnson. I love way the Guy Plays. I love his attitude. He's just to me like I'd kill for a dude like that. And if he was on a better team he we'd be talking about him you know in the Zeke Elliott type ways honestly. But he's not and when you don't have a decent quarterback you have a year like last year I that's going to change a little bit. I mean they're going to be a to me. This is a classic example of there'll be a fun team for fantasy purposes. But if you're a fan of the actual team you're probably GONNA hate it my team and it hurts my feelings because our boy Mike. The knife loves the cardinals. And I really like Larry Fitzgerald to me is. He's one of my top ten all time favorite guys just as a person as a player. I mean it's hard to find a good humanitarian type. Guy like him right that talented. You know who I don't know we'll see I mean we don't get many afternoon four o'clock games here so I usually Karnal Games. We'll see all right so there's there's NFC right so we'll start with her not our division that let's leave ours for last. Pass this one. Afc East yes this blah. I mean it's the Patriots for sure it the second easiest schedule in the league this year you know well but bringing that he gets six games against these schmucks. That's why they have the second easiest schedule. I mean it's it's bullshit because they're not that they wouldn't win other divisions so Fucking Patriot fans calmed down. But it helps you that you're playing in a division. That's just complete ass. Yup I I don't WanNa talk about so their first. Let's let's Where it gets interesting is. Who's after that I? My Gut says it's buffalo until I have. I am a game ahead of the jets. Yeah I think Miami's bringing up the rear. I just don't believe in their quarterback situation again. Miami's going to the number one pick. Let's just let's just say that right now this this tanking. This is a bad team. Yeah to three wins Max. They're not they're not great. It's it's I think Buffalo's actually going to be. I'm going to call it now. I think they're going to be over five hundred. I think I really love. I really love their quarterback. He's a guy that I want to Denver to go after and I just think they have a talented team. They're I think they're going to be fun to watch honestly do I? I looked at their schedule. I mean they got the pads twice Ravens. Eagles steelers in the cowboys in Dallas. So that's that's a tough road. Sure I'm not sure if they get the five hundred. I got like six or seven but I think they're still at me. Josh Allens not bad I mean it's it's they have something they can build around So I think that's their head in the right direction. Now jets who. I am no idea. I really don't have any idea they've got a if you on paper the jets win again. We stand darnall. He's got his weapons. He's got bally's crowder you know they took. Cj Moseley from the Ravens on defense. I mean they've they're doing jets things they always. What is it going to mean? Yeah they always went on paper like even when Rex Ryan was there. You're always like man. This team could be good and then they're not. I don't get it I. I have no understanding of why this team can knock it either on way. My asterisk here is is living on bill because if the guy performs at all like he did which. I don't believe he's going to because it's a completely different system and different offensive line because Pittsburgh had a pretty decent line if he goes off you know it changes things dramatically. If if he's all they have though it's all gonna come down to Darnold and I just don't know I don't think he's there yet. I don't either and I like the kid but you know right now. You're just a guy that looks like the fucking bad guy from the original incredible. You know what I mean you don't it's it'd be another can be fun to watch. Yeah but you have Miami Division. So congrats the jets. You will not finish last area. Go all right over to the south. Afc South your favorite team. I Love Them Leeann. I have a running joke because for the longest time he would tell me that he thought every year it was Houston's Year and God damn if he's not finally right but I don't think it is no Oh let's I'll let you start it off. Then it comes down to one factor for me. They didn't fix the offensive line. That's where they gave up sixty two sacks last year you and you can't you can't do that no not with. Watson's play style. You have to break him in half which would be to me criminal because he. I'm GonNa say this right now. I think he's a better quarterback than Mahomes. He's ridiculous but he's also built like rg three so you can't let them get hit like this right and they are. I mean this is not going to change so I when I sat down with the records. I've got the colds coming out about a game ahead of them Okay now they have a tough schedule. Dicusss amount of cap space and they didn't do a whole lot with it and I just think they're they're you know with luck is a hate this 'cause. I hate the calls but I think this is a very very dangerous team and I think you're GonNa win the division again with the Texans finishing a very close second I could be way wrong because the Texas could light it up and find that special sauce on the line and and just do it but I don't see them overtaken the colts. Were both probably way wrong on this entire thing. So that's fine but the jags division. No I mean like every every pick. We're making probably way wrong so hey I like that. You're taking shot there. Who else do you see a fallen out? Then I'll give you my impressions the debtor too. I think they're they're interchangeable. The jags and the Titans Nick foles. Who who knows? What is he going to do in the regular season? I mean we. Nobody knows they've got some pieces there. Same thing with the titans. They lost them their pass rushers. I think they signed Cameron wake So they've kind of replaced a little bit but I'm just I don't think either team is complete enough to Kinda step into that battle for second just yet. It's going to be close. Yeah they're both around five hundred. Which in this division. It's sort of keeps you there because you don't have that run away right. You know the winters probably going to be nine to eleven wins. So if you're at eight or you're in the hunt but I don't know if they have enough to take that leap yet. Yeah I mostly agree with you. I mean I think this division in a nutshell when I was looking at schedules and everything it's GonNa come down to your division games. I realize it usually does but more so in this. There's a couple of divisions where I think it's brutally important and this is one of them and I'm going Texans finishing I I just think they're going to be an offensive juggernaut this year. I really do I think i. Just Oh my God man. I mean I like the colts. They had an incredible draft last year. I mean like not not twenty nineteen but the year before that I mean ridiculous. I think they're second I. It's a toss up to me though I mean. I think that it's a game at most. That's GONNA separate them where it gets interesting to ME IS I. Just don't believe in Tennessee. This year I just don't Run tannehill well. That's fine. I mean their quarterback's can never stay healthy. Henry's now getting dinged up a little bit. I mean the dudes unbelievable but you have to be healthy right. I just I think they're finishing last and I don't think it's going to be close. I think the Jacksonville is going to be third by probably three games. But I think they're going to be probably. I'm going to say like eight or nine win. Team Jacksonville Yeah I I think is going to be the difference there. Okay that stability. Yeah a little bit of stability. I think now it's GonNa depend on for net to a very large degree because when the guys plane right he's awesome but last year was just not awesome. So right yeah. I think I'm going Texans Colts. Jags and then titans are going to be sub. Five hundred colds Texans. Jags TITANS I think one two three four will be within one gave each other. I I could see that I could I can. I'm going to say the Texans Colton. Titans are going to be the difference. Between Not Titans. Jaguars the difference between third and I was going to be at most two games and signed up to. I'm a two games. Yeah ten to eight going. I think you're divisions more interesting. So let's finish on yours. Okay Zephyr. So we'll go. West throughout the floor is yours. Oh this is where I have to say things that fucking make me feel bad about myself and make. My friends dislike me okay. So here's one of my bold predictions. I think the chargers win this division. I actually think the chargers in in my opinion and I'm not foreshadowing here. I think they're gonNA make it to the AFC championship. They're a scary good team. With or without Melvin Gordon. Their their offense is clicking. I think rivers as much as I think. The guy is just like a whiny bitch when we play. I have crazy respect for him as a quarterback. They're super as talented on offense. They are ridiculously talented on defense. And honestly I think there are thirteen win team this year. Second Place. It's probably GonNa be the chiefs. I think they're going to take a little bit of a setback. Mahomes is probably GONNA have a sophomore slump but when you're the fucking MVP and you just three fifty five touchdowns. Yeah I'll take a slow. Yeah a little bit of a slow. Okay I'll throw forty this year and four thousand yards. You know what I mean. It's like the kids ridiculous. And he personally is. I can't hate the kid I can't. I hate the chiefs more than anything in the world but I can't hate moms. I'm not sold on hill playing the entire year. Quite honestly I think either the law or Karma is going to catch up with him and that's not just wishful thinking. I really believe that so. It's wishful thinking. Well yes he's he's a fucking scumbag and I honestly would love out of the League. But I digress so I think the chiefs are going to Hover. Right around eleven wins. This is where it's GonNa get interesting for me. And this is not my disdain. For the raiders. Speaking but I think the BRONCOS ARE GONNA Finish Third. Probably around eight wins. I would say our cap our absolute maximum and this is if the Elite Dragon. Just fucking burns every city down. I'd say the Max that we're going to get ten wins but I I see as around five hundred honestly because new system new coach. Some new pieces new offense. They're going to be feeling. I don't think we're GONNA be terrible but we're also probably not going to be much better than that so I think right around there. I think the raiders are going to be an absolute fucking dumpster fire again and I don't care what moves they made. What coaches they added. I think their top five pick again here this next year. Okay can argue. Hard knocks is going to be great. Y'All I can't wait. I was to get rid of. Hbo After Game of Thrones Adding now I GOTTA. Watch this them being on. It kept me as a subscriber any other team. Oh to cancel it. I love that. So so I'll I'll give you my feelings and that's what Vegas thanks very interesting. I also think the chargers win the division. They've really good schedule. I think like you said they are such a complete team the they're going to go deep. I think homes does regress. Their defense is not great The broncos you got the second heart schedule League. I know it's tough well. The part of that's built into our division right. We're playing the charge. Of course the place so so. I've got the chargers. At like twelve wins the chiefs around the Lebanon Kind of falls off the cliff. I want upset you with my big. You'll not I've got yourself five hundred okay and and honestly I could see that because it's almost like what you said about the jets. I have no idea what is going to look like. Yeah so I'm thinking like seven or eight wins so we're not borrow right now. Get the raiders at like five. Okay so vegas thanks chiefs. Ten and a half chargers nine and a half broncos seven raider six. I think that's why I like the Onder. On that raiders number. I'm telling you I really feel like. They're a top five draft. Pick team next year. I would love to put some money on at six number so much dysfunction. I mean I don't think that and I'm counting the coach. I don't think that you can have all that in the same facility and make it work. I don't get through hard knocks. I mean there's so many persons this thing is going to be the best season ever let so many personalities let's called the over under right now because hard knocks is probably going to start. What like isn't it usually a week so should start next week? Ish Okay. Let's call right now. What do you think the over under is for Let's say inner squad incidents on her and I'm not talking like little fucking slap fights and shit like that in practice. I'm talking like like drama. Let's let's call it right now. What do you think of over under his weight? They signed incognito didn't they? Oh yeah they have a loan. Yeah this fucker gets into it. At funerals buddy him tonio. Perfect off silhouette five. Let's set the over under five. Okay I think that's I I. I'm taking the over. I think it's going to be could be Shitsu. Their personalities are too big. Just too big. Oh Yeah isn't branch opened a blimp or something? He showed a fucking hot air balloon. Yeah I mean it's it's a shit show Jenny so yeah so fun. I'm taking the over on that Shit. Okay all Right Buddy. Bring US home. Afc North Ayrshire hurts. I don't know the browns are just legit. I don't I think this is the start of Iran that could last a decade. They don't screw it all up Baker they got the weapons and everything. I mean they've put this thing together so brilliantly that it's it's just hard to fathom that ravens dealers aren't going to win this division. Okay but be honest with me here. Okay and and try to put your Phantom aside because this would be tough for me also but I can relate a little bit too something like I can say this if we're not gonNA win the division. I want the chargers to win it. Not because it's not the raiders of the chief but because I think they would represent our division the best and I can be happy for them. Okay sort of feel that. Do you sort of feel the same way about the browns. No not at all. Because because of the history. Oh well okay. That's fair because they and look. I can't blame them. They hate our city we hate. There's I mean look judge from our site. He's many times that he would piss on Adele's grape vita chance so now I can't if that wasn't there I would guess one hundred percent go forward browns. You guys do it. But it's not I I can't stand them but the thing is I like Baker. You can't not like I. That's what drives me crazy love that I'd like to play. I like him as a player. Es Fun you know. He doesn't. He's not getting trouble he just having fun. He's low Nana's ellings. He's what Mandel should have been. Yes one hundred percent. I was watching actually today. I was watching someone in the way he plays around with the press and has fun with it he just gets it in his age for someone to get it it. It's huge so I'm with you. I'm a big fan of the kid so I got them winning the Division. Will they fuck an added everyone? Yes they added everyone. Let's just put it that way there. Is there nasty on offense dude? I eight saying that. But they're they're going to come in here and kick our ass all right so so you think it's Cleveland Cleveland. Okay I now ravens and steelers. I just have a huge question marks next to each one because I think okay the Ravens. We've got a ridiculous offense now but the chargers just boot stomped this team in the playoffs. Instead this is you're not doing anymore and now teams have had an all season to study Lamar to study the offense. I mean we're not gonNA start. Stop running I mean this. The numbers are probably going to go up from last year. You at Ingram so it. The run game is really dynamic in Hollywood as the receivers are strong. I just don't know again. He's got to stay healthy. So that's that you know the steelers. I think they missed the playoffs again. I think either one of these teams could very easily make the playoffs. I think they could miss the playoffs. I've got both teams somewhere. Seven to nine wins depending on what happens. Okay steelers just with their what they picked up just didn't I don't think good enough to really improve. The Ravens did improve. But I don't know if the model is going to be what it needs to be so you lose mostly middle you get all Thomas. Which is you've got a leader back on defense. So that's nice as Ed re goes in the hall of fame so I don't know I'm this is one of the first years I've I don't have any sort of feeling about the ravens because it could be anything. It could be eleven win team or could fall apart and he goes down. It's crushed week one. I just don't know who who's your backups. Up Our three now he's hurt. Oh so why wouldn't academy anyway? Who's the Third Guy Sorely from Penn State so sorely skid. Yeah so of course. The rumors start as soon as rg three concert. Signed Kapernick. Do do it so I haven't heard any more about it but we're GONNA have to pick up another number to at least for training camp so In in any got the Bengals bengals right now. Marvin Lewis so at least that's something different you know. They've still got some talent agent. Green and Tyler Boyd. Their defense is the defense is just. It's it's borderline being able to call it a defense at all yet. It's not good. I mean they are probably the worst in the league. So the Five six wins. Maybe yeah that's that's if that's if green can come back healthy too right. I mean he's been dinged up a good bit over the last couple of years. Still Bernas for eighty are bomb so I see it sort of like you. I think it's going to be the browns. I think they'll win the division by a couple of games and when I say that I mean like ten to eleven wins right there. They're going to be. I know this hurt you. They're going to be fun to watch. I can't deny that I will like watching their games. Yeah a big Baker Fan. I can admit that he's just he's just a I mean he's got a little bit of cockiness to him but he also like you said he understands it. He's grounded enough that you can tell he's doing it for that's part of how he is but he also he knows how to play the press he knows how to be the guy the NFL has to love him. So I think they're I. I think second I feel like it's going to be like it usually is between you guys and the steelers you're either. GonNa have the same record or be like a game off of each other because that's what always happens. I feel like you guys have the edge and I think you're going to be second in the division. But it's all gonna come down to the health of your quarterback because I like Lamar. I was actually hoping that. Denver would have traded back into the first round to grab him but I just don't think it's sustainable. What they did with them is amazing. But you can't I mean look man. I lived through. Tibo and I love this guy. But it wasn't sustainable. And I look at it sort of the same all of the Lamar. Lamar is a much better actual quarterback but so I think it's you guys and then I think the steelers are GonNa take a massive drop off just not in terms of record as where does this is gonNA sound. I think like I said they'll be right around. Eight or nine wins. But they're not going to even be close to the same team that they were you. Don't you don't lose Brown Levy on bell and maintain you just don't know 'cause Juju was now on an island. I mean he is the guy you cover and as much as I like him. You're not Antonio Brown and I- Lake. Who's The fucking running back? Is it God Connor? Thank you I wanted to say cooper. He's good but you're not bell. So it's it's I don't I just I see them. Finishing third and the bengals are just a mess. I I don't believe in. I don't believe in Dalton I don't think grains gonNA be healthy again. Did he got hurt at the end of last year too. Didn't he like end was? Yeah so they're running situation seems always to be a mess you know. It's not like they have bad running backs it's not like they always have this weird fucking committee thing and maybe maybe you know. Louis not being there will solve some of that. I don't know but like you said their defense is complete ass and let's be honest in your guys division defenses. What's going to keep you in it if you have serviceable offense? That's what will get you above five hundred and I don't think they have either. I'm with you I screw CINCY. Yeah Yeah I don't. I've never cared for them all that much. But it'll be fun to me. I always I always root for you guys just because you but if you guys aren't going to get it I would love to see Cleveland. Make some noise honestly just because they're fun to watch so just as a football fan in general and it's something different. Yeah it's different and that's partially. Why like the chargers like I? It's okay for me to root for them a little bit just because well it can be honest. And this is petty. I love that. They're probably the best team in La but the most like underappreciated team in La. You know what I mean like. They're just dumping money into the rams and the chargers are playing in a fucking soccer stadium and not even selling it out and they're the better team if though Larry go car shots I like it. It's actually audio this year. Audio yes somebody can transcribe that for us right so this is normally the time we get into our weekly rant. But we're going to consider our quarterback discussion as covering that this week. We ran a little bit long on Footba. I like that yes. We'll joe bag into that next week. So I guess. Let's get into some text. Voicemails tweets questions all that good stuff. Sounds good What do you want to start with? Start with Let's start with the tweets and then we'll we'll we'll finish. We'll start with the stuff we can read and we'll finish the stuff we can hear that sound. I love it all right. So we'll start with the tweets Yelm. Who is our Resident Patriots? Fan But beloved by all. He tweeted US an asked. Why Do you hate my beloved patriots so much okay? What's next week? Yeah that's that's such a wide question. Why is the sunshine? Yeah I don't I don't I honestly I have no good answer for that without i. Just don't have a good answer for that because I just do right exactly because because fuck them yelm also asked on our discord. Am I wrong to be excited about Nikiel Harry? Who was there draft pick this year? Okay you know much about the kid but I'm GonNa just ignore the question because news that I heard in the past couple of days. Oh I want to. Here's though I have not been paying attention. Tell me this news. So you know. Eshelman was a quarterback bell. Jack does his thing makes him a wide receiver and he's amazing. They're doing it again. Get this kid Danny. Etling WHO WANNA say purdue judges a quarterback switching to wide receiver is he. White is white. Well Jesus of course. Because that's all they do sixty two to eighteen. Okay so exact same. So He's a slot guy dislike Harry. So that's what I get excited about him. That's the one. Forget your draft pick. You got another slot wide receiver. It's hard. Yeah I mean come on history you know what I mean. It's an Harry is. He's he's a physical kid. I mean he's he's got great stats. He's not like the fastest guy in the world but he's got pretty good hands and it'll be interesting to see how this works as I didn't know about that I honestly haven't been. I had just a ethically shit last couple of weeks at work so I haven't been paying attention to the sports news but that makes it interesting and I think you're right about that right. Well all I can say is. I can't wait for that fucking team fan base to come crashing down at some point and Yelm. I love you and I don't mean anything against you but anyway moving on so we got a couple of texts. Um One of them I believe is somebody you know. I don't have name but there's a picture and it's a picture of what looks like Queen Elizabeth and she's Got Kinda crabby face. An assist cheers above it. And it's a tattoo. Yeah it's it's a big tattoo. Now what this says underneath it is fellas I a ping pong bet to a god Damn Brit. This was the result. What's the best way to tell the wife and I haven't followed up on this so he? He sent me this picture. I believe a week after he'd had this dog and he's already got I dunno three-quarter sleeve arm in and hadn't noticed it yet. I don't know the answer. Yeah how do you explain this to anybody really I? This is one of his very good friends that he lost his bet too. So I think at the end of the day and if the other two are like tributes to his kids and things like that and you've got the queen next to it. I don't know I look. I say he's got a big set following through with this. Oh Yeah I was about to give him props off a tweet this thing out rapid on instagram. A good permission to see what we can do that. Because it's a big these artwork. I can see that I mean there's bets in there fucking bets and this one is like damn he's someone I'm not going to enter into a major bet with yet don't I wouldn't. I don't even know who you are. Sir But hats off. Yeah all right so we have one more text and this is from our good friend Bain. Who I'm shocked. He actually asked a sports question. But you're GONNA like it purely on an NFL suck versus NHL. Sucks SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE? Which sucks worst the buffalo bills or the Buffalo Sabres? I'M GONNA go bills only because of like I think the sabres they were historically pretty fucking good for awhile but right now maybe I guess I don't know I don't even know what the sabres are like. I don't either. We used to ram of Buffalo. Remember that podcast. We had to segment a weekly hate. Buffalo segment no was. This is what we had a weekly. Why Buffalo Sucks segment come from? I don't know anger. I guess I was just a weird place. Direct anger does in hindsight. It seems I don't know I mean at least a bill stage. You're having fun out smashing tables eating chicken wings. Okay you know what I actually just changed my mind. I'm GONNA give it. I'm going to say the bill suck He asked a weird question on a scale of one to five. Which sucks worse I? It seems like two different things. I'll just say the sabers suck worst props to the bills. Mafia those fuckers tailgate like they don't care how shitty their team is or what the conditions are they they tear down. A good day is getting suplex through a table in the parking lot. Pre-game unbelievable I. It's one of my favorite thing like when when they have to in Florida. Have the home depots card people and not allow you to purchase a folding table because you could potentially be from buffalo and you're going to destroy it in a parking lot. That's fucking amazing. That wins that wins. I didn't know that as of aging you don't remember that this was last week. Yeah great when they went to I think they went to play the dolphins. They know Shit. I don't remember who was that said it but home depot was carting people and would not let you purchase a folding table. Unless you're like a Florida resident or something like that that's beautiful purely because of the bills Mafia and they win at any rate incredible. Like yeah I WANNA party with these fuckers or drip. Yeah do some voicemails Like I said I've heard none of these none so it's all surprise. We have a three from Mike the Knife and one from our good friend. Yelm same night you know. I don't know I'd have to go. Look I believe that I believe they are all from the same night? Yes okay. I closed the window. Okay here. We go alert alert feeling Pumpkin. Chunking got more runs in the copter ended up in donut shop. Oh my God alert. Oh my God we should make that one of our segues. We should make that like. Hey when we're about that'll be are going into. Iran are Ranta Lurch Hurricane. Warning and we got to Karaoke there towards the end here is. Here's number two from MT K. I WanNa rock right now. I'm basically came to get down. No I'm not internationally known but I'm not sure that the Mike Phone I mean. I get outrageous field for me to get some some leader known follow African here the end. I've forgot impromptu and he's not cheating with Google lyrics. No He's just going straight nineties. Memory I love it I love it. I have one request now on before you start singing. I want to know the number of beers. You've had the beginning of the voicemail. Yeah for real. All right number three from empty K. I hope it is another a karaoke jam. I remember that I remember. 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09/01/21 DPS Hour 2 Sean Casey

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Terry ford thank you for taking on this product. Give you my full voice here role on this at this zone in lexington wanna welcome in our new affiliates. Ninety six point one zone in lexington kentucky where rock lives. I don't think iraq now maybe not maybe not sounded good. Yeah iraq lives Poll question mclovin. We're to stay with what we had in the first hour. I actually haven't put one up yet. Because i need your guys input two questions i have. Who's going to have a better rookie season mac jones or trevor lawrence. Okay the rookie. Of the year odds list trevor lawrence number. One mack jones number two. Now what's it mean to have a better season. That's a good question is now not wins and losses but overall production who has touchdowns how about that. Well mack jones could have a lael. He should have a better record but he probably won't be asked to do as much as trevor lawrence is going to be asked to do. Trevor lawrence could end up. With twenty eight touchdown passes and they win. Five games mack. Jones could throw for twenty five touchdowns and they win ten or eleven games. Who had a better season zack. Wilson is going to be asked to do an awful lot with the jets. How many wins are they going to have. I think we can look at the stats and think matthew stafford had a great year every year. We'd always have big numbers they didn't win. And when you're losing you're going to be throwing even more. Does justin fields get a chance. When does he get a chance. But i i'm guessing mack. Jones has a chance to have a better season because his team is better Trevor lawrence is behind a spotty offensive. Line you got a rookie head coach. And you're being asked to make some magic here. Then you've already lost travis at ti for the season. Yama club so. I guess the question who wins rookie of the year. Then if they're wanted to zach wilson probably round third. I would imagine would if give you. You can have trevor lawrence of the field for rookie of the year. Does anybody want the field. Mclovin does fritzy does okay. Seton does polyester dot running backs used to have a good shot because the a feature back like saquon nausea. Hera's yeah but the steelers. What if. I gave you mack. Jones trevor lawrence or the field. Anybody interested in the field. Seaton's interested in the field. Mclovin is interested in the field for. It's not his mom riding with trevor. If you throw mac in there that's a different ball game for me. Oh okay we'll take trevor and mac. Does anybody wanna piece of that pie to the face. Rookie of the year. Seton does seton against the back row way within the anna andrews with malls so left side verse again left side versus right side. Okay so right my right side and my left side okay. So it's it's mclovin and seton versus paulie fritzy. You guys got the field jones and trevor lawrence for pie fair enough. I don't know if paul ever agreed to. That police definitely did yeah. I'll just throw them. you'll throw pies. Yeah well are you gonna throw a. You're so for you involved in out of okay. You're so just hot okay. And it'll be pi from each of these guys and then if you win then you get to pause to hit. These guys sounds goods all right. Yes mclovin. I'm looking at the list of rookies of the year. And there aren't a lot of number one overall. Like kyle murray one in nineteen okay but the bed is already firmly cemented here like he can't wiggle out. No my point is travel is not have a great chance. No i'm saying todd. Who's the most conservative guy. That i've ever known would try to wiggle out. They've already agreed to thank you him back by the way peacock original series. Hard to hardware hosts. Kevin hart sits down with today's biggest celebrities for unfiltered conversations. New episodes premiering every week to peacock. Tv dot com. Sign up now. That thing with the two tires spins and spits out. Footballs that call. The jugs gun jugs gun. I think i thought jugs gun was to do like radar on the on the pitch. Anyway that thing with the two tires spins and spits up football. Yeah can we find a way to see fit a pie in there and have that fire on aleka. Tv maybe maybe. It's like a gigantic cupcake or something that you put it in their fires it off. That'd be fun. What about those those guns that they shoot t shirts into the crowd. Yeah like a potato gun member potato gun you could make you press the button. And but we get cupcakes. We stuff at fully cupcake grace. I love it sounds like fun. Yeah point i wanna tell seat. And he's right. The jugs gun is also a football thrown. By the way. I typed in jugs and hit searched and it was a whole different thing but the jugs sports dot com makes the football thrower. They call it the football throwing machine football throwing machine. By the jugs people. Oh jugs makes those. Yes great and radar archives. Yeah they do it all when the patriots dolphins face off in week. One two former alabama quarterbacks to a tongue of iowa and mac will face off jalen hurts. Who was in the same quarterbacking room in tuscaloosa starts in philadelphia. That's surprising because you don't think of alabama as quarterback you but certainly during the nick sabin era but save an open up the offense a couple years ago when he brought in lane kiffin he knew. Hey i can run the ball and have a great defense. I gotta get caught up to speed with everybody else with offense and then those recruit showed up as lane kiffin said now. It's not fair because it used to be. You could get a quarterback or wide. Receiver couldn't get a running back or defensive players. If you were recruiting against nick. Now nick goes and goes. Take that quarterback take that wide receiver super bowl winning quarterbacks alabama's actually tied with a man. You wouldn't get this one purdue for having the most super bowl winning quarterbacks alabama's joe named bart star and kenny stabler purdue has three. You're gonna get one. I don't know if you would get the other two drew. Brees went to purdue the other two purdue quarterbacks in fact we had a guest on recently who talked about his dad. Going to purdue bob greasy went there bryan. Greasy talked about lenny dawson of the kansas city chiefs. I went to purdue this pac twelve school has the most super bowl appearances. And here's the hint. It's not usc paulie stanford no. Oh cow jared goff aaron. Rogers joked cab craig. Morton vince ferragamo about that. One not exactly quarterback you nowadays but there are as many super bowl starters in today's nfl. From miami of ohio as there are michigan others come from eastern illinois. Boston college texas tech alabama might be having a run starters. But you never know which college next great quarterback is going to come from and a little bit later on. We're going to have mike renner on who covers college football for Pro football focus and he said you know keep in mind. We didn't know much about these quarterbacks last year at this time zach wilson max jones joe borough the previous year dwayne haskins the previous year cuyler. Murray we didn't know if he would be able to play in the nfl. Mitchell trubisky that can twenty seventeen. There will be quarterbacks that come out of nowhere and we'll discuss this coming up next hour. These are quarterbacks that you need to know about now and they'll probably quite a few of them are going to be first round draft picks. Let me see. Oh i got a new interview here. And it's with john. Sina the great wrestler actor. This week's episode of that scene. I talked to john about the scene in trainwreck. Where he's in the movie theater with amy schumer and she instigates a fight. We also talk about his various similarities to mark walberg. Here's a portion of the interview and you're both musicians rappers. Yeah yeah. I mean we i hung out in my underwear and suicides suicide squad. So we're kind of like both underwear models to you know. We were actually played his adversary in daddy's home. And i think it was honestly i think it was that moment in trainwreck. Mark wahlberg himself was like. Hey we we need to get john. The button of daddy's home. We also talked about the parallels between comedy and wrestling and hell conor mcgregor and mark. Wahlberg would do if they got into the ring. You can listen to the entire episode. You can go to amazon. Dot com slash. That scene with john cena all right. Eight seven seven three show email address. Tps dan patrick dot com twitter handle it. Dp show Let me see you know i still. I'm told yesterday that though. The dolphins publicly. Brian flora's their coach. Backed away from shawn watson without talking about to shawn watson this comes down to the following. My source said the offer is too high. What the texans one. That's all it is the price if it when it comes down then there's a chance i don't think that shawn watson gets traded. I don't think he plays this year. I think this is basically a redshirt year for him. Let's see how the legal issue issues play out if they disappear now. You can get a premium price for to shawn watson. i don't need to trade him now. i'll pay ten million dollars. I'll let him sit. He'll be a healthy scratch. That's what i was told. Probably going to happen with shawn watson. You're your quarterback. The one of the top five quarterbacks in the nfl will not be playing this year. My that's my opinion. But i do think. There's no reason for the texans to be all of a sudden saying. Hey we got a trade him and less. You think something bigger down. The road is going to happen. You know could he be indicted like we're not even going to hear from him probably until february with this case. What's the nfl. Do with him unless you think all right the nfl is gonna suspending for a year. And who knows if he's going to face charges here like this isn't just the nfl investigating. There's a whole lot more attached to this. And i don't know if you can get dollar for dollar with to shawn watson unless you feel like i'll take quarters on the dollar but i wouldn't do it. Yep how would it work. If the shawn watson doesn't agree with that plan and says i would like to play this year because he's eligible to play as far as the nfl's concern right now. He's the best player on the roster. By far for them to healthy scratch him. Would he have a case with the players. Union or some type of grievance because he he has not been charged with a crime and he can't get that year back he gets the money but he can't get the football would have a case. I don't know if the players association can argue on his behalf that you must play him because you you can't challenge if a coach says. Hey i'm not gonna play this guy. I don't wanna play this guy. Now you can say there's shawn watson is right now. He's charged with. He's been char accuse investigated but can you say these football reasons why. I'm not playing him. I mean it's tricky. Nfl players association. From what i'm told is looking into urban meyer's comments urban. Meyer said the quiet thing out loud he did bring up the v word vaccination that that factored in. He said that everyone was considered. That was part of the production. Also he was he vaccinated or not to say that. That was a decision maker is to certainly under consideration in other words. He didn't play the pr game. He said what the coaches are. Actually factoring in our you vaccinated and who is that player who is or is not vaccinated but the players association will look into this and from what i was told player association. Now how do you prove that was the reason why somebody got cut. Because they weren't vaccinated. Could it be part of the reason. Could you get partially in trouble. Is that the only reason why somebody got cut because they wouldn't get vaccinated by the way in case you're wondering bill. Belichick held a press conference this morning and here is how reporter asked the question on possibly keeping cam. Newton is abaco. I was wondering when it came to cam. Was there a desire to have him to stay with the team. A backup role or was that never presented as an option. Yeah i'm not going to go through all the different things that with any player on that so we'll just leave it the way it is and go from there Difficult decision to make bill. Well rank on you know we we make decisions and and then we execute them and go on and take it from there so i wish somebody would write a book and it would just be on bila quotes just had the question in the answer of everything that he's ever been asking to press conference since he's been the head coach and then just put it out inspiring thoughts from bill belichick. Yes hunt the reporter and him to rank and say. Where was this of all the people you've ever cut. Where would you put the cam. Newton he just said. Was it difficult in all we had to say again was. It's always difficult to cut someone especially someone. That's been accomplished veteran in the league. But we move on this decision we made. I don't know why have to rank them. I don't know if it was difficult though. Then say that. He's he's he's no you guys but he's not shy about expressing himself albert breer who works for the monday morning quarterback said that when bella check was asking cam newton's vaccination status played into his release he replied no albert breer then follows up by saying i believe in bottom line is bill. Check wasn't picking a starting quarterback based on that and cam. Newton was never sticking around as a backup. It's simple mack jones on the job. I was told the same thing yesterday. Mack jones beat out cam. Newton plain and simple part of the reason why he had three days to his own where he ran the first team offense and i think that's when the coaching staff couldn't deny what they were seeing. Because a lot of times when you see a rookie do well you say to yourself. let me hold off here. When you see the veteran do it. then you know. It's something that he has done. There's consistency there. It's not a fluke. I think they got to the point where they're looking at mack jones. 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Stop the tour championship. One last chance for the pg tours ultimate prize this weekend on nbc and golf. We'll get to sean. Casey here in a moment you see where the pga tour said. If you yell out brooke see to bryce into shambo you be thrown out of the tournament there. How do you think this is going to go with the crowd the gallery there. It feels like when you say don't do something then. It's a green light to do something. What if ten ten guys do you gonna throw out all ten. Yes time you put big chocolate chip cookie in front of your little son or daughter. Walk out of the room now. Don't eat anything you just leave it. Just leave it there. And he's amelie attack it now. I know that Bryson into shambo in brooks kappa. Promised to play nice with the ryder cup. They're going to be teammates there. But this weekend with this final tour stop. I got a feeling. Somebody's going to be yelling. If not getting the whole see. I wish they would throw out the the whole guy or baba buoy as opposed to earn you throw out. Hey brooke see when bryce into shambo comes fine all right. Who cares yes. It's really an interesting statement though on the maturity of the modern american man. That if you're saying like hey guys don't do this well all real can't do it. Okay now we're all gonna come within like a big of a loser. You have to be to do that. The media comparison is to a child and a chocolate chip. That comes to mind. That's who's the galleries math do. Okay okay do it. Stop being the grownup all right. Okay for oh okay for. I'm going to go do it. Every single whole now loser. Yes paul if our show is calling you mature. You must be really immature. Think about it. Smooth segue to sean casey. The mlb network analyst three-time nhl haenel star. He's known as the mayor. And nobody ever booed sean casey. When he played did they know i got. I got thrown off from left. I got booed. Detroit was booming. Sixty thousand like. I get out of here you so one time. I really got booed bad when you got thrown out from left field at first base. You got booed booed so like running running back to the dugout like shower are. I'd ever hit with seventy booze of my life. Did you get boot like this help or hurt. Well you know what you know what i in. Nineteen ninety nine. I was having a really good year. We were coming down the stretch we were going to the astrodome. The play the astros. And i remember getting introduced and the the place booed me. And i remember very lankan say to me. Hey man you finally made it. If they're boom you. That means they know who you are. And i was like all right man. This is on. this is awesome. So what about the home fans. The fans You know what i think. One thing with the home fans at the end of the day like people come to see you play and they wanna see you do well so if they do because they're not happy that maybe this is the only game they're going through that year and you're not doing well. I understand i understand i understand. I've had that happen before. Like i've been on a bad streak with cincinnati a couple of times and was very popular but i got booed a few times and i understood it when i frigging grounded into another double play. Okay but what hot hobby by is did and some of his teammates like. Give me the logic behind that and doing that to new york fans. Wow i don't know there's a good logic as far as doing it to new york fans you know i think i i think i think it was probably not the smartest of moves. Just because new york's new york and like for me. I played in boston in two thousand eight like boston. New york philly there listen. They're great fans passionate fans. They care and new york and i was talking to put forward about the day. He's like new. York fans are especially mets fans. Some of the most knowledgeable fans out there so You know. I don't know i. I saw hobbies reaction but as players. You have to understand too. You get paid a lot of money to go out there and perform and when you don't you're going to get booed that's just the nature of the beasts but when you respond with thumbs down like it's tick you know you can't do it. These can't do it. I don't know man you got to be able to look at yourself in the mirror to say you know what i. I'm not really playing that. Well these last few games and we are ten games under five hundred or whatever it was in our last forty. And you know we're not given the fans what they want. We are under achieving. Like so you can't boo back to to the fans when you're not getting it done it'd beats different. It was different circumstances but the bottom line is the mets are underachieving right now and the fans are doing. I don't think it's okay to boo back to ends because it just sends a bad message. Well it's what came first the chicken or the egg. Your bad play came before the booing started. If you play well then they're not going to be booing you. I never understood in. I remember tino. Martinez told me that he went from the yankees to the cardinals and he said you know. I would get booed at yankee stadium. If i wasn't playing well. I went to saint louis and they were like. Hey you'll get him next time. And tino said i wanted them to yell at me. I wanted them to bumi like i needed that. I expected that not like. Hey that's okay. You're over ten. We'll get him next time. Tino come on. Don't work that you're gonna be okay. Well saint louis is the one place i remember you. You make a diving plan the visiting team. You've come cheering for you. We're looking everybody. And i can see like you're right tino martinez. Hey you all right man. You're for your last twenty-seven you'll be better tomorrow in new york. They're like get out of town socks. You're outta here. Could you played in new york. Yeah i think. I could definitely played new york. Yeah i could have definitely played your especially later in my career. Start to understand what it takes to play in places like that you know my my last year. Daddy was in boston so and ended up hitting well so i always say what was they always say. What was your experience like in boston. I said it was unbelievable. You know hitting over three hundred and never got booed so it was a great great experience. What kind of ballplayer would you be because you were an you hit for average not an average hitter. You hit for average. Is there a place in baseball for you today. Oh man i think. I think i'm a hit like myself would be more appreciated in today's game. Just because you know. I i didn't i didn't strike out a hundred times i was. I was three seventy on base. You know i was. I was i was still going to. I was still going to hit you. Doubles i was gonna hit you. Some home runs. I was going to drive. Been runs like a guy like me. I would have been. There's they need more guys like me. That were good hitters in the game today. 'cause the three true outcomes and just as the strikeouts how it's just okay to strike out two hundred times nowadays and i just don't i don't think that's the greatest product and i also think danny if you go and look at the at the teams that have won it in the last few years. You know these teams do have good. Here's down up and down. There are tough out some those lineups. So yeah. I think i would do well. Today's game he sean. Casey works for the major league baseball network three time national league all star do think back in the day and you were probably in the The throws of the steroid era in the late nineties like. Do you have to make a conscious decision to say. I'm not going to use steroids. I think so. Yeah you know. It's funny man. And i mean this sincerely like i never did. Steroids and didn't even know all the guys are doing it. I just i mean lifting was huge. Then guys were huge. And i really think the guys that were doing it new new. They all they were a little club. So did i expect. Assange look like a couple of guys that i that would come to spring training with thirty pounds of muscle and i'm in the off season with a personal trainer like just getting after four five days a week doing everything. I cannot put on three pounds. A month i come into spring training. Like what the hell is this normal. You put on three pounds of muscle. And i'm like well. How'd you put on thirty five thousand muscle in four months. He's a man i just. I was training hard and had a person jazz. So did i. I was like you put on thirty two more pounds of muscle than i did. You gotta be kidding me. So you know played in that plane. During that time. I think it was a conscious choice not to do it but look back. I don't i think for a lot of those years. I didn't realize how many guys were doing it. Because there's there's the pressure it's not when you get to the majors but in the minor leagues and you know two guys. I know who were former minor leaguers. Said if you don't wanna do it but then you see that somebody else is doing it. And they're going to get a better chance of getting called up so it's that peer pressure and the money is so different. When you get called up that you really have to have that the good angel on your shoulder and the devil on on your other shoulder and in like who am i listening to here. Yeah yeah i think the pressure you're right the pressure of the money nowadays when you start to feel that okay. The the playing fields not fair. I mean the guys are making it. The that are doing steroids. They're the ones making all the money and here. I am in the minors. I'm not gonna make it. And i do get a pat on the back and say i didn't do it so i think there was a real dilemma. There for guys in a lot of guys that did do it and didn't do it. And understandably so handicapped and actually wes you like the giants of the dodgers here down the aisle man man. I tell you what. I just think i. The giants have been so awesome. What a story you know. I think they're really. I think there are really really good team. May i just feel like the dodgers are our common. You know they've been making that run. They're a half game back now. Pushing hard adding assures turner and those guys you know at the deadline. I think has been huge I think the i think the dodgers overtake the giants in september. What do you think about the usage of shohei. Ohtani doing double duty here. I love it. I love it i. I think we're seeing who shohei really is because when when nadan was like what do you want to spring bring changes like what do you want to do is like listen. I wanna hit. And i wanna pitch. I don't want to go back to taking two days off and with kid gloves. I think they took the kid gloves. Awfully say the reason you're here because you're a once in a generation like no. You're a once in a lifetime player. We've never seen a guy like you like go do it. And so. I think the fact that he's doing it he's built to do what he's doing and i think that's why it's been such an unbelievable thing to see. Shohei do what he's doing on both sides of the ball. Well i like the story. But i wonder about long-term. Can he continue to do it. Does it take away from. I can't imagine and i saw this at yankee stadium. A couple of months ago where he's got to face the yankees and they've got a leadoff. You pitchers spent five days preparing for a start and he's playing every single day and just that mental fatigue that you have. It's such a long season. that's what i wonder. Is it counterproductive. Will it be counterproductive. Him at some point though. But i think he's the biggest thing with a big leaguer talking anyway. It's your routine. Hey what's your routine when you come to the big leagues get. A good routine was shohei since he's obviously been been a teenager in japan has got this routine where he could start every fifth day but also hit every day. I think his routine just different than what we know in the states. That's why we've never saying like it so. I think he's going to be able to do it. I really do i think. He's got his body condition and daily. If he doesn't then he picks one of them and he'd be still one of the best players in baseball on one side of the ball but to watch do this as long as we can't man as fans we gotta keep really enjoying it and saying we've never standing like this. How many hall of famers did you tape. I took a few deep. Do you have the numbers. I don't know maybe like how about how about fifteen. Then give me the one though like you took deep and you're like that pitcher might be a little i took i took i took Let me see well one pops into my head. Two glavin veep a few times. I took i hit really well. Against matic's smoltz was pretty nasty Let me see randy. Johnson i never took deep but i hit him pretty well. Let me see what other big roy. Halladay man maybe. I didn't go deep enough. I know i hit a lot of wild but maybe not. I know i got glavin. A few times Why am i drawing blanks on halloween. Was i played against but so maybe to you went from fifteen to ten to two up starting around. Maybe it's not sonetti okay. One there's to be one more out there somewhere. Okay you walk up to the plate for the first time against randy johnson. Yeah what are you thinking seriously was like scary like seriously. Why walk out my first time facing. i'll never forget. I was in cincinnati. He's with arizona. I walk out. He's just got the long mullet. You know just you know 611 it is so scary and i get up there and i remember thinking to myself. Oh my god. That's randy johnson i got. His baseball card is unbelievable. Next hundred outside the coroner jesus had a hundred outside corner then ninety three mile an hour slider ninety three. And i'm like. Wow i mean for dogfight here's Never seen anything like this entire life right. So i'm like daddy. I start battling because you know. I didn't strike out a lot so i get the two. I'm not punching out to foul thousand south so on this. Unlike the seven pitch randy johnson walks up. He gets like ten feet from the from the frigging from the plate. He snatches the ball and looks at me. Like rock. As i just wanna get the hell out of your house. So the next grounded out and i was running into i. I was like the greatest. It just that'd be dealt with. It's always great to talk to you man. Hope you're well. I did a great shot. Me on that sean. Casey now you know why he was the mayor. The fact that randy johnson is like ten feet away on major league baseball network analysts three time nationally store. You can watch sean across the mlb network programming plus check out new podcast. The mayor's office. Paul in iowa joins us on the program. Hi paul what do you have. Hey dan i up you know. Twenty six years young. And i'd like to announce the my continuing football career at bishop sycamore. You may be on the younger side though but Thank you paul. Yeah five eleven. One seventy five. I hear they need kicker but really my call today is i. I wanna ask you about this hobby biased. And where does this fit into the unwritten rules of major league. Baseball does this kind of equate to when randy moss gave a moon de. I had no problem with. I mean randy. Moss didn't pull down. He pulled down his pants or give. The you know the impression he was pulling down his pants. I'm joe buck. Made it worse than what it was because if you just hear the call you like. Oh my committed randy moss do i. I don't know it's not like he actually pulled his pants down. Joe bach made it sound like he he did truly moon you but yeah the the unwritten rules. These are new york fans. You love the passion but then you can't go. Oh man you got too much passion you guys care too much. He came from chicago. Where you're probably not getting booed and you wanna world series there. By the way we did reach out to coaching. staff at bishop's sycamore the fictitious high school. And they were not available. We were told by somebody that we had to pay like. What kind of compensation could we give to. One of the coaches who would be joining us. Fritzy you had the interaction there with them. I did and there was a message back to be basically saying you know what type of compensations involved. because while they're going through this duress and stress and everything. I guess maybe they would feel better if were getting out of money for coming on but how we don't pay guests you're not we do. I like fifty dollars. One hundred like how much is enough. Like how much is it for a high school coach fair question by the way the high school coach just got fired didn't he at bishop's sycamore probably got up. It a little bit to make up for that. Maybe it's closer to one hundred dollars for my question when mclovin sent this to me yesterday goes yeah and the head coach of a bishop. Sycamore got fired. Go by who do. They have any adults who are affiliated with the program or gmo. The team that's i didn't know i i wasn't sure this was that would fire the coach. Yes mclovin afraid to say this. But i think we should have paid for the guy. Aren't you know what he would say. I you know when fritzy said hey. I'm going to reach out and i said yeah i'd be interested to hear from this coach of how he's pulled this fraud off and got on. Espn to play one of the better schools in the country. And he's got kids who aren't even in high school they don't even actually have a school. Yeah and if we were journalistically unethical. I'd actually pay for out. We don't even know where to send the check to somebody. It doesn't exist online senate. Tell them we're going to send it to the high school is gone. We'll send it to the high school. I'm going to it off at the high school. Next time i'm in columbus. I'll drop it off at the highschool. Let me take a break. More phone calls coming up. 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Jack has back strawberry spring starring garrett hedlund and milo ventimiglia produced by audio of media and iheartradio listen to strawberry spring on the iheartradio apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm keeping an eye on. What's going on with the seventy sixers with ben simmons. Ben simmons has publicly talked about not going back to philadelphia. Then want to go to camp. And here's the thing you know. The seventy sixers have themselves to blame for this. Because if i go back to that lost to the the the the atlanta hawks. When ben simmons famously passed up a dunk when trae young who is nine or ten inches smaller than him and he didn't want to go up for the dunk didn't wanna get fouled and he passed it off and then after the game joel embiid talked about. That was the turning point of the game when our guy didn't want to go for the dunk was worried he was going to get found. And then doc rivers was asked. Can you win a championship with ben. Simmons is your point guard he goes. I don't know well. If you're ben simmons you have down so ready about your game and now i got joel embiid in my head coach rivers. Who have doubts about me as well. Of course wanna go back there and you know that the fans are going to be holding their breath every time. He has to go to the long. But i don't know if he's harder to trade now because he doesn't want to go back to philadelphia. I still think golden state would be intriguing. But then i also heard this philadelphia would probably want draymond green and klay thompson. If they don't get damian lillard so you're thinking okay what's golden state. What's their thought process. I get rid of draymond green at his age and klay thompson coming off a couple of surgeries. Even though he's a wonderful shooter. That that gives them that. Damian lillard kind of shooter on the perimeter and then i bring in ben simmons we get younger. I still have steph curry. We got a lot of younger players. Here i'm thinking aright is. Is that sort of the game plan here. But i think that everybody is waiting for the seventy sixers to lower their trade demands. The same thing is houston. Nfl teams interested into shawn. Watson might not be interested in him right now just because they're asking too much in return. Yeah polling do you. Think that ben simmons and his people think everything's fine and he's a great nba player and he's there's no. Everything's going smoothly. That sort of feels like on the outside. It's working out great. He scores scores rebounds. Sis all purpose player well. I hope that he doesn't have a lot of sycophants young yes-men there that you have people giving him some some true criticism just to say. Hey you got to. We have to work on this. This is on you. And that's why. I thought he should have played for the olympic team for australia. Play with people you know. Build up your confidence and then kind of build off of that because it doesn't just magically happen where he's going to all of a sudden go. Oh hey i can make my free throws in. Oh i can make a three pointer. His form is not bad. His confidence is what's bad and he's got to work on his competence level. Well the only way you do that as being successful not a pickup game. Not some video that somebody shoots. Have you shooting threes with nobody on you and nothing at stake. It's only going to happen when you do it in a game. You get the sense. That ben simmons needs like lebron or somebody like that to step in and be like no. I want my team. I need bent on my team. That's kind of his only real hope. Can you imagine if. Kobe took him under his wing he would. Kobe would have been like right in his face. It would have been off love. And i don't know if lebron would give tough love there but i think that's with ben. Simmons needs because he has this opportunity to do something to be great. I mean he's an all star defensive player of the year. he's a really good passer rebounder. it's just he doesn't have confidence when it comes to shooting. Yeah mclovin yeah. There was also this report. That stephen came out this summer inside. He doesn't work and he's constantly baby which brings true. I mean he's seems like guys who tell him things are okay yes philly wants about. I mean there isn't a fan alive. Who wants him back. No but daryl morey doc rivers to the two people. I care about what their opinions are but it feels like when doc said when he was asking. You win a championship with ben simmons. And he said i'm paraphrasing. I don't know. I mean that tells you everything right there like you back your player i mean you say of course i do. But he didn't it was. It was a moment of truth there from doc rivers. And if. I'm ben simmons. I don't wanna go back. But he has to understand why they don't want him back that's the key or he's going to continue to be this kind of player. I still think going to a team. That is not going to be qualifying for a playoff. Spot is really important for him. He needs to kind of disappear to reappear but it sounds like he doesn't want to do that. It sounds like he wants to go to a big ben. That is too big. He wants to go to los angeles. He wants to go to california now. Sacramento's in california. But i'm guessing he wants to golden state or. I don't know how you squeeze him in with the lakers. But that salary now do you squeeze him in which you're signing trade or whatever it might be yeah mclovin. Fill in for qui- clippers now. Now they're stuck with coin. I mean while kawais out next year maybe simmons could do a lot of that production. I don't know how they pay him to. Who knows about the salary cap. Mike the the lakers squeezed in rajon. Rondo i'm going okay. 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Hour 1: The Real Reason

"According to a survey over two thirds of americans are planning to travel this summer. All this summer travel means the airlines hotels restaurants bars retail stores and more have been ramping up. They're hiring so weird. Growing companies like these go to build their teams ziprecruiter. And right now. My listeners can try it for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash kellerman. When you post job on ziprecruiter they send your job to over one hundred top job sites giving you access to their network of millions of job seekers you can easily review recommended candidates and invite your top choices to apply for your job which encourages them to apply faster. According to ziprecruiter internal data jobs where employers invite candidates to apply. Get two and a half times. More candidates ziprecruiter's technology is so effective. That four out of five employers who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. And right now you can try ziprecruiter for free at this exclusive web address. Ziprecruiter dot com slash kellerman. That's ziprecruiter dot com slash k. e. l. l. e. r. a. n. ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire max kellerman. Podcast also on siriusxm channel. Eighty your monning k. V said broke up the warriors who they blamed it on three monte k. d. set here did a twenty four minute interviews spectacular interview out of dream on very very interesting answers from k. d. but one note whereas like guys i who they blame the max kellerman show. You can hit me at eight eight say. Espn seven to nine. Three seven. Seven six the max. Kellerman show is presented by progressive. Insurance guests join me on the goodyear hotline. I it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless so katie and draymond say that the warriors mishandled the two thousand. Eighteen incident contributed to the team's break up in an interview on chips on bleacher. Report where draymond green was interviewing his former teammate. Kevin durant draymond asked him point blank. Was our thing. Why you bounced. I'm paraphrasing obviously katie. Said it was no. It was the way it was handled by the organization. They both said they believe. Steve current president. Gm bob myers were at fault for the way they handled the players emotional back and forth on the floor that spilled over in the locker room and look drain crossed. The line. right was overtime loss to the clippers in november eighteen And the players argument ultimately contributed to k. d. at least thoughts perceived leaving the team following the eighteen nineteen season. Now i gotta say this era of media for so long in order to reach the masses and tell their story and amplify their brand athletes had to deal with the media guys like me and now with social media and these guys becoming media moguls themselves. They realized the power of what they've got and they can own it. They can control it and on the one hand that means that they can steer the narrative and a lot of the kind of stuff that you get from players more closely resembles the the idolatry of the nineteen twenties. You know babe ruth got venereal disease. Everyone said he had a bellyache for from eating too many hotdogs right like because that's what they told the kids and then eventually there was this new journalism in new wave of journalists. Who thought no. Let's tell real stories you know along with the athletes foibles and everything. Let's flesh the mattis three-dimensional human beings. The real story is going to be more interesting than the story. We make up. Life is more interesting than you know the some sportswriters imagination and so we got a lot of a lot of that stuff in the in the decade since but now the athletes are empowered to control the narrative. Is everyone says more and more. We're moving away a little bit from that kind of journalism now. That doesn't mean you don't get valuable stuff. When athletes interview athletes when k. D. can feel to safe space for him to talk to someone like draymond because dream on number one will ask relevant questions and number two. He doesn't have to imagine what it's like to be in k position because he very much. He's in a very similar position. I mean there are differences of course but katie knows. He's talking to someone who knows the ins and outs of his life and what he goes through so like de even talked about that. At first i thought the media was so smart. They knew so much more about me and then as time went on i realized no this questions. Aren't that great now. Now i want to get a little deeper into this. If you are kevin durant or lebron james or someone like that. We're naomi asaka and you say you wake up in the morning you go on the like one of the best. Whoever ever did what. I did what i do. It's taken an ungodly amount of practice and work to get here on top of all my natural physical gifts and do philanthropic work feel like. I'm a good person i'm trying. Why is it half of the stuff i read. It feels like is negative about me right. i can understand. I'm not perfect. One percents negative but why so much negativity. Oh the media is just looking for something negative. They're not entirely wrong. Because what we know. Is i said this on. I take today. Superman was not as interesting a superhero. Spider-man right one can hurt him his kryptonite. so if you ain't got no kryptonite outta luck with superman. It's less interesting. The more invulnerable the more invincible. You are the less interesting. It is when roy. Jones was in his prime as a fighter when that was great to watch him perform but it was all a solo act. No one could really put them in a fight muhammad ali when he was young then as he got older ali got older the aged and now guys can put them in fights. That was the most interesting part of his career right. You wanna see back and forth. You wanna see what he's made of and what we realize is if all. We're doing doing telling everyone how great the athletes are there actually less interesting. We wanna paint them as human beings that they are and that includes all the foibles and all their problems because no one's perfect but the athletes thinking. Wait a minute this out of proportion. Why so and that's where you get the conflict with athletes feeling. I think the press especially in an era social media where everyone's a critic is too negative and then a guy like k. diesel on top of that. A guy like k. D. can get to some of the stuff. We're looking forward to flesh k. D. out in a better way than say i can because i haven't lived the life of an nba player. Not only in this case does draymond. Green have like direct experience with k. D. and what he's going through that he not only have a similar situation because he's gone through the has direct experience with k. d. They were actually teammates. That was the kind of interview you hear shack and petty do twenty years after they're done playing. You usually hear that while guys are still active so it was a fascinating interview. Really an interesting interview k. d. came across as authentic highly intelligent. And if your student of life you want to learn from other people's experiences too especially another student of life and that's how d. Came across as a student of life and what he had to say was interesting. And i think valuable except all that was preamble except for the part where. They both playing the front office for him leaving. Come on guys come on. I understand you saying steve. Kerr and bob myers had some responsibility. Well they just punish stream on and that was going to make it better for k. D. that part i get and if the front office is smart. They'll learn from that. The way aaron rodgers trying to teach good eclipsed like this is how you do it kate. The on giving blueprint steve. Kerr and bob myers great at what they do. But here's a way to get even better. Here's how you handle that differently but you got. I know it's easy when the when those guys aren't in the room and you to our friends again to say no no no. It wasn't the incident. It was the way the organization handled it. Come on d. on can iron that out yourself. You don't need an organization to get in the way we're to blame. That was straight talk wireless. No contract no compromise. That's in the bottom of the third pitch tiny swings and he lifts sam missile in right-center that what is outta here homerun shohei otani that is number forty of the season. And how tonight on this wednesday. It's showtime i hope. People understand what shohei otani is doing. Look he no one's done this babe ruth now look babe ruth was at his best a better pitcher then otani and at his best a better hitter than otani but he didn't do both at the same time the way otani. He's doing it and babe ruth was playing against. Most of the guys who was playing against weren't training since they were kids. Internationally with third generation coaches to get to be as great as the players. The major leagues are today. They have day jobs off your lance. They had winter jobs. And everything there. Little guys malnourished. Half the time right otani is facing much much better opposition. That was his fortieth home. Run which leads the major leagues. He's eight and one with a sub three. Era whip barely above one more strikeouts than innings pitched. I guess a lot of guys do that nowadays. And leading the league with forty home runs and he's leading league in slugging percentage. I god i've been. I've been waiting to see something like this baseball. Such an old sport in the major leagues have been in existence for over one hundred twenty years. And you're living through an era. You may never see again in your lifetime. No-one seen this from since babe. Ruth and not even quite with babe ruth when he was a fulltime pitcher. We want a full-time hitter. He was a great hitter but by the time he became babe. Ruth the hitter that you know. He wasn't really a pitcher anymore. Otani is doing both at the same time just about as well as can be done. Bob costas on greenie with mike greenberg. This morning you could say that ted williams sitting 4:06 or some of the seasons that ruth had or triple crown seasons that mantle had in the fifties barry bonds with or without steroids at its peak You could say that. Some of those seasons were greater seasons. There have been greater pitching seasons than this greater hitting seasons than this but this is unique in that nobody has ever done these things simultaneously to anything like this level in the same season. So i don't know if it's the best season ever but it stands alone for its uniqueness. Obviously it is it does and it's it may be the most special season ever by the way that home run. We played for you before his fortieth his major leading fortieth of the season to go with an eight and one sub three. Era barely above one. Whip more strikeouts than innings pitched record was courtesy of angels radio. Am eight thirty. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance. All right you know what this is. Oh i thought there'd be some imaging some announcer something no just me on the announcer. This is my nfl long nfc north review. Not exactly john but okay who gives the packers the biggest out. Look we all know the packers of the class of the division. Aaron rodgers gives them a premium. No one else has almost in football history. Let alone the nfc north right now. Packers got defense. Packers have the best overall receiver in the game. At this moment they got a running game and they got an offensive line and they got they got a lot of stuff and they have aaron rodgers. And let me tell you something else matlock floor in ever taking the ball avid kind of rogers hands again with the game on the line not the championship game. You ain't given that ball. Tom brady. That's for sure. Rogers gotten better every year under the floor first year game manager but started winning a lot. They make the nfc championship game in your own. No not just a game manager one of the greatest seasons of all time. Mvp an nfc championship game. Because he knew that he understood the system now and now skies the limit especially the motivation one more year. And then he's out to become you know. Brett farve only won one super bowl. Rodgers can win to who stands in the way all right. Let's go over it. Let's go over this carefully. First of all you have your chicago bears. And what's the problem with. the chicago. Bears year in year out. They don't have a quarterback. They seem to fix that. Justin fields looks like a female. So far and i the way it's the reason i wanted giants to draft him. Daniel jones if you had to. They had to but they have justin field. Andy dalton is under the misapprehension that he's going to start this year. I mean he missed our start out that way. But how long is that going to. Last the problem with the bears challenging the packers supremacy is justin fields is a first year starter first year. Rookie starter quarterback And if indeed starts and it's one thing to be this is your first year as a starter. It's another thing for that to be your rookie season as a quarterback. I understand eventually. Someone's going to do it but to this point in the history of the game. No-one who fit that description has ever even taken a team to a superbowl. Let alone one at and the packers have a super bowl roster. That's what the bears are up against. I don't think the bears even with their defense which is not quite what it was a couple years ago. Let's face it. There's some better defense in the nfl right now but even with their defense. I don't see the bears having done enough on the offensive line the way. It couldn't protect the quarterback last year. I don't see them truly competing with the packers and that leaves people. The vikings the bottom line about the vikings because they'll be able to defend and and you know kirk cousins will put up numbers. Do you believe in kirk cousins gonna come to work in a plexiglas shield or something. What was instead of getting a vaccination. He's like i could just get a vaccination. I understand it. Every scientists debbie credible scientists on earth is like. Yeah you get the vaccination. It's important for all of us plus save and but you know what do instead not sure. I believe every leading medical expert that ever lived. Let me instead surround myself in a plexiglass. Whatever it is. All right kirk tells me ain't gonna win the super bowl that way but you know. Maybe that's just me. I don't see kirk cousins challenging aaron rodgers when when when push comes to shove when it comes down to. I just don't see the vikings could play defense. They have some offensive weapons. They can run the ball. Obviously when their guys healthy they can throw the ball but but they're not otherwise better than the packers and the premium. Aaron rodgers gives you over kirk. Cousins is significant. But i would say they are the biggest threat in the nfc north. And that doesn't that doesn't rach that's the entire division. Yup that's all. There is in the vikings and the packers. Yep there you see what's what what wait. There's another animal or something that division. How will i know the lines used to play in that division. At some point they break man. They listened to give detroit some by the way. I love detroit. I'm a big detroit fan. I used to go to to see emanuel steward. The great cross trainer. Jim the trunk gym trainer and colleague on hbo of mine. Ringside one of the greatest boxing. Trainers of all time. He would pick me up from the airport and a gold rolls royce and gave me my own crop jacket. Your name on it and everything. I love me some detroit. And by the way detroit's motown and detroit where everyone said bail out wall street. Not detroit detroit. Got bailed out paid the money back. I i love me some detroit but the lions oh detroit deserve so much better raj. They deserve so much. Better sodas thanksgiving by the way i know. That's a shame. That's a shame but that's when everyone plays flag football. They put that game on earlier in the backyard. Back and watch the cowboys and wild turkey. Yeah though i mean come. On the looting of how hapless the lions were with matthew stafford. They were like you know we can do here. What if we downgraded at quarterback but they listen. They'll have some young talent coming in. They acquired a bunch of draft picks. The lions may be a much improved team a year or two from now for right now. It's a three team division. That's my nfc north review by the way since we're talking to see north when he will. Andy dalton said about justin fields before i got the phones eighty eight say. Espn seventy nine. three seven. Seven six here the k. Draymond interview would you think. Eighty eight say. Espn you wanna hear. What andy dalton said. The bears quarterback for what it's worth for now said about justin fields. The guy. I told everyone the bears need to jump up to pick and they did the guy that killed me that the giants passed on but i know they got a good deal to trade back but danny jones going to be as good as justin field. Daniel jones ever be as good as justin field to be this year. This is when. Andy dalton said about just fields. There's so much excitement with justin and its deservedly. So i mean he's a first round pick. Do i want the fans behind me and his team and all that kind of stuff. Yesterday i want them behind. Just an absolutely i do. That's not my focus. I can't focus on all that right now Like i said before. Justice is going to have his time. Justin is going to have a great career but right now it's my time. Well andy johns not wrong. It is time right now. it's right now is is andy. Dalton's time let's see what time it is about twenty after. Pm on on august nineteenth. You're eastern standard. Andy dalton's time's just about up. It's just about up. How many weeks can start. Just feels better than andy dalton right now based on what i've seen. Yeah i think justin field is right now. Better andy dalton ever was actually and he was pretty good number. one antidote. When talking about the good sending quarterbacks i brought this up the other day with derek carr and andrew luck. There was a time. When you said of all the ascending quarterbacks who do i want the andrew luck might be one man boy. derek. Carr my way up there right. There was a time not all that long ago where you looked at cam. Newton and said boy. That's a great young ascending quarterback. Andy dalton was one of those guys. Hey he's a young guy good harm some. Nfl experience already read rifle. Well he's going to be a good one. Give me some andy. Dalton that time has coming on the bengals wasting whatever was there of his prime. Now he's keeping justin field seat warm by the way you know one. All's right in the world hate to bring this up people in boston. But all's right in the world and the yankees sweep the red sox the way supposed to be. That's the way it's supposed to be this kid. Velazquez on the yankees anyone's seen him grew up in the bronx went to school in the bronx comes to the big leagues finally as an extended minor league career. Not a big prospect. He helped win all three games. That was some baseball last night. Boy that's right that's right. Raj what that's right. I'm that's why yankees fan. So what milton. This is a new. Max kellerman record. We talk to different baseball topics. Not not just in one show in one segment. I'll give you another baseball topic. Louis c. louise skill. He's the first pitcher in baseball history to have scoreless start in each of his three career appearances first in history yankees guy. Yankees prospect came up. He's three and eighteen. Strikeouts no runs allowed in three in his first three major league. Baseball starts any hundred miles an hour to get out on that on that. Don't need to get out of here. I love falling apart. The red sox are falling. Apart in the yankees are skyrocketing things whereas it should be but but really listen. If you're talking baseball it's the shohei ohtani story right now. The guy is. I can't get over you know like baseball attract stat geeks like me. Even when you're a kid you look. You'll baseball card packs before you had like before. There was an internet because you wanted to see everyone stats on the back. How do you even know tiny baseball card. You get two different stat lines. One for a pitcher one for a hitter or do you do two different cards. I mean i just can't get over it. Eight and one. With sub three era more strikeouts in innings pitched a whip just above one with forty home runs which leads the league as he leads. The league in slugging percentage. It's never been done. Never ever been done forever ever never. This is the max kellerman show coming to you. Live from above from above. That's the word i was looking for the heineken river deck appear seventeen coming up joe thighs. 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Because eventually i'm going to get to asking you about dax injury and i'm sure whenever you come on a show like everyone wants on that somehow tied into an injury can give us but i have plenty of stuff to get to before then so i apologize in advance for that. I want to start with this though. I said the other day after one preseason game. How's this for a hot take. I think this could be could be the best quarterback class ever in the sense that i see five guys to me who looked like they have a chance to be longtime. Nfl quarterback health willing. Of course what do you think about this quarterback class. I think it's. I think it's a very accurate statement. But i mean. I'll take you back to nineteen seventy one when jim plunkett dan. Faster rainy archie. Manning myself we all came out of school in nineteen seventy one and then you think the eighty-three class with marino and that group I think this class comes in with a lot of talent. Of course the ears were different. So that's the one thing we have to look at in football. It's this is a throwing your and this group really has the ability to throw the football. They play big time football. I tend to agree with you that this could be the best class. But i always say this. The quarterback position is absolutely the single most dependent position on the field. So it isn't just the fact that you're starting somewhere or you're going to be the starting quarterback but the next question is is what's the team around. You look like remember. Jim plunkett went to new england. Then he wound up having success in san francisco Then he went and had more success with the raiders. So isn't always where you start. It's sort of where you finish what the team looks like around you. But i do agree. This is a very impressive group of guys that can throw the football and move. Yeah except for mac jones who can also do he can do everything but move. It seems talking to joe size. Meet you in that system max. Tom never moved in that system. And bill invested a ton of money on the defensive side of the ball with free in free agency so you know an his tight ends joe on his tight they really been missing talent at the tight end position which is huge in his offense and now they have it. Absolutely what you take you take a look. At the way to england's offense was constructed it was really constructed through the slot position and the tight end the wide receivers other than randy. Moss have had very little impact as far as what happens on a football field for that team. I think that changes a little bit more. I think they've gone. They've lean towards the wide receivers. They brought the tight end position and You know mac looked really good. It was the game we broadcast the other night. New england in washington. I thought he'd stepped out and did a terrific job again. It's preseason it's not necessarily against the ones you're not scheming against an individual those are all factors that have to be considered but if you want to have an eye test. He passed it So you win the super bowl eighty two right and you win the mvp. You win the mvp. The following year. And that's when that draft class came out the great great class marino and jim kelly and john elway looking back at the time as the best player in football at that same position. When you saw those guys come in. Were you thinking. Oh here comes next. That's one and two which one of those guys early on did you think right. That's gonna be the guy it's really funny. I just. I always like to look at the position. Even though i played it i mean i always tried to compare myself to others and say how did i match up against roger. Staubach bob greasy and those guys that i played against And when i saw this class coming. I said you know this is a talented group of guys. It really is. I mean dan marino comes in. We'll all kinds of credentials. Being able to throw the football around. John elway gave up baseball basically to play football us baseball. They help himself in football. And i thought i thought john has the ability to be able to be. That's the one i looked at. I said you know he brings. At that time we were back position and i thought you know that he's the guy that's interesting to me. I thought you were going marino. Based on the way he threw it around especially early on but they all those guys were so talented real quick. Before i get to dak and the injury the inevitable question to joe is men. Of course. sorry. Joe which of these young quarterbacks do you like the best at this moment or would you project to have the best career barring in trou- gosh i like i said it. It depends on how well the team around him. I mean jack. Wilson's going into a jets team. That still have so many questions about them. What's going to happen. Chicago's got a pretty darn good defense. Just feels looks like he has the ability to move around and make plays you see what trae lance has done out in san francisco I think down in jacksonville with trevor lawrence. You know it's it's again what's going to be around him. What are they going to be able to do. New coach system Do world for him. And then you look back. Jones up in new england. I i think if i was going to say one guy thought that would have probably a success right. It'd be mack jones. Because i know you said have asked me. What's the most important asset that a quarterback possesses. I'll tell you it's a great defense. I had one and it. It makes a difference in their a nails. You out of a lot of bad situations. It keeps you in games so i think mac has a chance to be able to step into a roll up there and be the quarterback that they need to be efficient for bill and his football team. Joe talking to joe is on the max kellerman show. Espn radio yesterday. Aaron rodgers told dan le batard that essentially he revolutionized the game. He changed the game and he doesn't get a lot of credit for this. And i want i want you to weigh in on this and he made an interesting point to me. It's not just that he could make off. Platform throws unlike anyone until we saw him. Mahomes come around right before him. Guys who threw for a lot of yards and touchdowns did not take care of the ball like him and he mentioned when he got. In the league thirty touchdown single digit interceptions had not been done that much and now the whole league league is doing it right like guys. Are doing that much more. Not just thirty touchdowns. Do you think roger's deserves more credit than he's getting for that. I think it's i think a fair assessment. I really do. I think that you know. Being coaches will look at aaron rodgers success touchdown to interception ratio and says we need our guy to be more like that and so people talk about an individual. Say we need him to be more like that. I think that has an awful lot of influence on what goes on not only on the packers but also around the national football league and more and more guys. We'll do that. More and more coaches will look guys coming out of college that protect the ball in that regard. Just was just aaron. Rodgers is the greatest pure. Passer that this game has ever seen. We've had guys who have strong arms. We have guys who have spun it. Very well and tight. We've seen guys that have been accurate. We've seen guys able to move on the run. All those four things we've had different individuals do but no one has ever put all four things together. Like aaron does wow. That's why i say now you now. I'm homes maybe your quarterback that ever played. Patrick is patrick. Is working himself towards that right but he does he does. He doesn't have the the tightness of a spiral. He doesn't have the quickness of the release the patrick's releases a little bit longer but aaron gets it out so quick. It's aaron rogers to me. It real quick. It's like michael vick. How do you practice against somebody gets the ball to the receivers that quick. You don't have anybody on your football team. That can do that right when a db breaks on a ball. It's getting there before he can get to it. We're in practice. He might have gotten to qualify aaron with that particular state and then he has a very fast. Cpu processing information quickly. And the whole thing. All right joe. Here is the inevitable injury. Because i saw dax injury on tv. It's like oh what's that remind me. Of course my mind goes to you and of course years was much more horrific injury but but i would have an interesting perspective on this i think do you think that deck should play in the preseason or would you if you would not play in the preseason and just wait for the regular season if i was mike mccarthy i would not play him in the preseason i would give him more of an opportunity to be able to get more and more comfortable and get over. The arm soreness that he has. I don't see if if it was a new system. I might say sorta get them out there. But because he's been with mike. I don't think there's a necessity for him to go out on the football field. You basically understand what he's now i want. I want to take a second and explain to you about the mechanism of throwing what happens is is he. We've alex smith myself. We've all broken are right foot. The right foot is to put you push off. That's the power leg. So what happens is if you picture the throwing mechanism as one hundred percent and a portion of that is taken away. Whether it's your arm and your leg it has to be made up someplace else shoulder so you lose ten percent of the power in your leg that means it has to be made up somewhere else that you're on. When i tried to come back. I had soreness in my arm at a place that i've never had it before it wasn't a tired arm. It was soreness. And then we'll go back to cam newton when he hurt his foot. He changed his delivery little bit. He hasn't really been the same throwing the ball. Since that so it it's a carryover and it took me two years to really get over to be honest with you. Took two years to get my stroke back to where i felt like i was putting the ball where i wanted to and because i used to work out for teams and throw the ball around just during when i was doing broadcasting so to me. It's you know dax arm. Soreness i think is directly related to the fact that the power isn't quite in his right leg where it will be at some point in time. So that's the relationship between those two joe. This has been a true pleasure. And i hope you're not a stranger to this show. I brought. we need to talk to joe as low as much as he'll talk to us great analysis which is to be expected of course but a real pleasure. Joe thank you very much. You're welcome back. Thanks for having me love. Joe thighs men ladies and gentlemen. The great show seismic join. Me on the goodyear hotline. Helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven coming up. Got a question about your. Nfl team asks. Max is next. The max kellerman show brought to you by capital one auto navigator where you can find a car get prequalified instantly and see your real monthly payment without impacting your credit score capital one. What's in your wallet. 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Memories of Don Shula | Weak-Side Podcast

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Memories of Don Shula | Weak-Side Podcast

"Episode two this week of the side. Podcast is back Jenny. I'm connor or and we're coming to you Starting to show talking about the passing of a great. Nfl Legend Miami Dolphins head coach Don Shula. Who passed away this week at the age of ninety the winningest head coach in? Nfl history. Jenny I want to bring you in right away on this because back in twenty thirteen for the Cuban sports illustrated you got to spend some time with Don Shula and just wrote a fantastic piece and I don't know what are your some of your recollections from that time and What what where did your mind go? I guess when you when you heard the unfortunate news this week yeah that was actually my first assignment for the QB Connor. I went to Miami and may twenty thirteen and the idea was to give a picture of what Don Shula's life was like in the twilight of his life and he and his wife. Marianne were so gracious. And kind you know. When he was a coach there was this he had this or of being such a hard ass right and he would you know he wasn't afraid to stand up for things or spar with the media tough on his players he was. He was tough as a player as well when he plays as a cornerback in the NFL once he broke his jaw and they went out for dinner that night and he figured I won't Order Steak. I'll just order ground beef. He didn't know that his jaw was broken but he something didn't feel right and then when he couldn't even to the ground beef he realized that he had broken his job but in the twilight of his life he was really a lot softer. I remember his son. Dave said his father was never one to listen to music but he'd catch him listening to songs in the car I asked what kind of music would listen to. And Son said songs of his era you know like the sound of music soundtrack which gives me a good laugh because I think we can all relate to ageing relatives in our lives But yeah he had had a health scare in twenty eleven. He had a blood clot. That broke out broke off of somewhere in his leg and shop through his circulatory system. And after that he was really physically diminished lost. A lot of his energy needed a scooter to get around. You probably saw him in the scooter. Any public event. He went to his final years of his life. He was always writing that motorized scooter but was really remarkable. Was His long term memory. As you often hear the short term memory goes but as long term memory was a sharp as ever so just sitting in a chair with him in this beautiful home. You could see the skyline of Miami across Biscayne Bay and just listening to him. Reminisce for four hours or so. It was pretty remarkable and they were just a couple of highlights. I went back and looked at the conversation because at the time seeing the physical condition that he was in. You didn't know if that might be your last interview or your last interaction. Right and he. He was really strong. You know he even after that scare in two twenty eleven you know he was he was strong too to keep going and you know keep interacting with us. Children and Grand Children. Great grandchildren former players. He loved all of them. So but yeah it was sad to hear of the passing ninety and so I look back at some highlights that conversation. I asked him what his favorite football play was. He said if I had to pick one play. I think my favorite play would be a simple hand off to a big bruising. Fullback by the name of Larry's Donka. He gave a green account of when they drafted Marino and they were surprised that he was still on the board that he slid to them. And one of their defensive coaches said no we need this defensive lineman. He didn't specify which one and Shula said. No we need Marino so took then and you know obviously the rest of his history from there. He talked a lot about one of the things that he's known for which is just winning with whatever he had so Marino's probably the best pure passer to ever play the game so when they had marina they passed but when they had bob greasy they ran the ball and if they pass eight or ten times in a game that was a lot and So hearing those memories was was pretty remarkable and then one of the last things we talked about was does he think he was the greatest coach of all time. And what's interesting about? Shula is he wouldn't directly answer the question but you could see the fire. Come through at certain points in our conversation like when the eighty five bears came up he really lit up said. Sometimes the eighty five bears get the nod as the best team of all time and he said the eighty five bears. I think they lost one game. That year didn't they force was to the dolphins. He's had thirty three thirty three points at halftime against that eighty five bear seen so very fiery and I think he really. I think the credit for those dolphins teams for the perfect team for being the winningest. Coach was important to him but later in his life I don't think it it defined him right. He often the little bit so he the way he answered the question was he kind of. He answered it without directly answering it. You know he said what I'm going to say is this when two teams play each other one team wins and one team loses the team. That wins is the better team at the end of the year. You have a record and if your record is good enough to get you into the playoffs and if you win the Super Bowl you are the best team that year over a period of time over your coaching career. If you win the most games you should be given credit for winning the most game so I said okay like is that a yes and he said. Is that how you decipher it? So it was. It was a memorable conversation and I. I really enjoyed it. I mean it was lucky that that was my first assignment for sports illustrated Mac. Ganja was the editor on that story. And really I also remember that experience for really taught me how to write an essay MAG story I mean he really gave me a a thorough at it and really sort of explain the difference between writing for newspapers and writing for a magazine style. So I remember that experience the for a lot of reasons and it was definitely a memorable one. I also saw this week something. I didn't know and Christine Brennan for USA. Today wrote about how he don Shula Women in the locker room before it was mandated by the NFL. He basically told his players. You will wear a robe in the locker room because men are coming in and women are coming in and they're both going to interview you and you're going to treat both of them with respect and he's she said one time she wrote in her column that he he came up behind her and kind of tap on the elbow and she was in the middle of an interview. So she's kind of annoyed then she turned around and realize that Shula and he was just checking to make sure everything was going. Ok that everything was professional and I thought that was really remarkable. Story actually wish. I knew that when I had interviewed him but it it really comes through because I was taking one of the things I really took. Note of was the respect in which he interacted with everybody around him at here. I was like I don't know in my late twenties winningest coach in the NFL. He doesn't know me. He could have been dismissive. He didn't have to be generous with this time. I was asking him about his health and this period of his life. Which certainly wasn't the most exciting period of his life right. No one likes to the effects of aging can be hard. I guess but he was so gracious with all the questions. And so yeah. I think that really was the picture that I got up and later in life and I'm glad to have had that experience you know what amazed me about Don Shula to as I heard that a lot of people about this week was the mental stamina and for anybody that does a hard chaotic job. Where there's a lot of mental highs and lows? It's incredible that he did for as well as he did for as long as he did. I mean there there are a lot of NFL coaches that burn out super quickly. You know And deal with that mental fatigue and exhaustion. And you know it's not just unique to coaches. That's anybody who has to use. Their brain overdrive You know in a creative way or or anything you know in a physical way in. It's incredible to me that he kept such an even Keel. He kept that drive alive for as long as he did. Yeah and it was interesting things that he wasn't satisfied necessarily with the way things ended right and when he was done coaching in Miami. He told his wife. I don't want any of the game plans. Just throw them away. I don't want them anywhere near me. And she saved them called them all away there in cabinets in his home except for the seventy two season. That is in a safe but so you know being there at his house. You could see the cabinets full of the game plans for the the winningest coach in. Nfl history is pretty remarkable. Also to see how things evolved over time you know hand-drawn to some with computer assistance and It's really a time capsule. The other thing that I remembered was that Marianne said they had a fortieth anniversary for the seventy two team so that would have been the year before I had visited. I think it was the fall of two thousand twelve and she said he talked about that for months ahead of time and was still talking about it for months after those players on that team were like his children and that was such a special memory for him so he didn't get to go to the fiftieth anniversary of the seventy two team. But you know he passes with that record. No other team is matched a perfect season. No other coaches as many wins. Pitas and think that's pretty remarkable especially given that we saw bell check went through in two thousand seven with that team and I still think that that is such an unbelievable mark. A bar for coach to reach. And you know what whatever you WanNa factor him into the discussion of the greatest head coach of all time. You know whether you prioritize super bowls or anything else. I think the lay fan has such a hard time understanding the mental gymnastics. That takes a coach to be able to get a team through a perfect season like that. Yeah the pressure that's on you the stress and there were so many good teams in the seventies. The steelers the raiders. That was not an easy era to win in. Yeah yeah very very cool that You know we got to be able to hear your recollections. I would urge anybody to go back and to read that piece as well that that Jenny did. It was spectacular. And thanks to Jenny who? I don't know if you remember this but back when I was working at. Nfl DOT COM. Because you got to talk to Don Schule you got hookup for Don Shula. First story when his son was the offensive coordinator for the Panthers and the Super Bowl so That was fun. I got to spend a little bit of time with him on the phone. So thanks for that Jenny. Yeah happy to help. I do remember that Conrad Forgotten until you just mentioned it so very cool So we got a lot to get to today. Interestingly enough so we're taping this on Wednesday about two o'clock in the afternoon so if something happens right after that Forgive us but I'll start with the first news topic Janina meager to hear your thoughts on this the NFL release schedule later today. Occupying yet another isolated piece of prime time real estate to assure fans at all is well in normal behind the scenes though it is difficult to imagine they are not preparing for feature that a look quite different within the sunny landscape there currently painting. What do you make of a schedule? Release amid the pandemic and why does the NFL feel confident? Enough to trotted out now. Yeah great questions Connor. It seems this has been their approach. The whole off season is to continue as if we are going to have a season in twenty twenty that will be on time and to go through the normal checkpoints of the off season So that's what they've done to this point that's what they're doing with the scheduled release It's slightly delayed this year but not much And so they'll put out a schedule that we have no idea F. It'll be played according to that plan. It's so funny. Because when we're beat writers connor you remember. They released the schedule. And you would have to immediately book your travel because that fans in the city especially like if you had a game in New Orleans or the jets always play in Miami of course but you know it was like December game in Miami. You knew that a lot of jets fans would probably be going down or so. You had to kind of re rushed to book your travel this year. No one's booking travel I don't think know. How could you be sure? But so? Yeah I mean of course the interesting part is going to be how they constructed. What parts of the schedule will be collapsible? Of course the interconference games would be the first ones to go or the easiest ones to go in terms of if you had a condensed schedule. Sixteen to twelve which I think it's hard to imagine. There's a full sixteen game season Connor. I do too quick aside. What was your favorite schedule? Release Story as a beat writer. Like the best like hit. You got on schedule when you were covering the team like you saw that. And you're like yes. This is going to be great. That's a great question connor while you're thinking about it if that helps okay yes go forth so twenty twelve or twenty thirteen jets one of those two years or no. I'm sorry Twenty thirteen giants was the year that I was covering the team or was it twenty fourteen. Yeah Tony Thirteen giants 2013. Thirteen giants San Diego December. And then there was nobody at the Coronado Island Marriott. Oh and like like got like an amazing rate for that hotel which is like a just a beautiful waterfront Marriott in late December and beaten up throughout the entire season. You're just mentally exhausted in that trip was like just going for a walk. Run along the Pacific Ocean and like wow. That was that was a game changer back. Then that's a great one. I thought of one. Connor the twenty twelve giants. They played and San Francisco my birthday weekend so my sister joined me and so it was a fun opportunity. I had only been to the bay area. I think once before to cover rutger's women's basketball played in the NCAA tournament there at Stanford. But this was my first time really getting to explore. San Francisco's you went to the bay bridge. We ate at slanted door. You know all of the typical things that people do. I still have yet to eat there in every time I go. It's just like I just miss it and I'm like I feel like I've missed the boat on it a little bit because it's hard for restaurants to maintain that consistency for ten years. You know what I mean. Yeah I mean I will say that it was good. It wasn't like a life changing experience. It wasn't like French. Laundry was that a life changing experience. Yeah French laundry was. I was lucky to go. One time I saved up money for it. It was when the Super Bowl was in San Francisco is like the Post Super Bowl treat. You know get there a long season Up TO NAPA with a couple friends and we were able to get reservations somehow and so that was I would say like okay. That's like a top five meal I don't would put slanted doors a top five deal but it really is sports writer popular thing. It's like everyone's like Oh yeah. Did you book slanted door like Seattle. Did you Book Wild Ginger? And it's like okay like all of these things are fine. I will say wild. Ginger might be up there in Seattle as like a top ten. That might be like ten for me in terms of top ten meals but I read something interesting and I promise I will get back on course in a second but that Sometimes that we strive so much to get the quality of meal to line up with the prestige of the restaurant and that I think it was in best American food writing this past year which I've been reading a lot of during the rally I love it. Yeah and this well-known food writer had advocated for Like just stripping all the pretenses from every meal and how. He had the best meal of his life at a diner adjacent to a best western that he was staying at actually four a food writers convention. It's everybody was at these hip l. a. restaurants in all these places and he's like you know. I got a grilled chicken sandwich at this diner and honestly it was the best meal ever had in my life so I think it's interesting like sometimes you don't know and I don't know I. I've had some of the best meals in my life on the road but sometimes you don't do. Yeah that's a great example. Connor so I don't know I mean it is weird to me just like it's weird for us to talk about the draft into project these players out and everything when we don't know when this is GonNa Happen. This is weird or because it involves travel. It involves events It involves you know municipalities cities states. All these different forms of government. This does not feel like the right time to be that in and I know what the reaction is going to be to us saying this right as you guys didn't want the draft to happen either yet. No we didn't But so our opinion is unchanged but especially now like there are places who are still struggling to get medical supplies testing kits like y flood zone here a little bit and and causing extra stressor on a municipality a city a state government. I don't know I mean it just feels the whole thing feels like the timing is just not right right now there are also a lot of unknowns to one of them being role the La in Las Vegas stadiums be completed. So how does that affect the scheduling? Different areas of the country may open up at different times and I think it would be unfair to affect the schedule accordingly. Right say okay. This state is slower to open up. So we're going to work around that I feel like that's a dangerous road to go down where you're making adjustments based on certain states opening before other states and I I also saw Peter King Road in his column. He had an estimate of how many tests would have to be given out during a two hundred thousand tests. I think the number that he cited. That's a lot of tests like we have to make sure that that availability of tests like to me. That's the biggest question is if the there is going to be a season. It's certainly going to be reliant on regular testing and will the testing inventory be widespread enough. Certainly the pace needs to pick up from where we are now so I think that's the biggest hurdle I also saw that Dolphins President. Tom Garfinkel was talking about potential ways. You know. Reduce the number of fans in the stadium fifteen thousand spaces between seats and then you know you dismiss like you would in church where one pugh goes out of time. So they're they're really thinking through a lot of different options here and you could argue that yes. They have a lot of time. Just think these things through by the amount of just there's a reason that the NFL schedule released April or May is because there's a lot of logistical planning. That's necessary and so you know in a normal year right so I think Not really being able to move forward with those things at this point in time. We'll create some challenges. Yeah I just I I can't see it right now but again. Maybe I'm a pessimist naturally But I I just don't know I. It's hard for me to envision. Anything right now in bars in Ireland are closed until the end of August. And I think if that's any indicator of how seriously any places taking social distancing than you know I just don't I don't know you know what I love the world to snap. It's fingers and get back to normal. Yes and is this a time? I think we're we're living through. That is fascinating in that. The information is coming so fast and furious that you know for example. We took our daughter to go see my parents and my wife's parents this past weekend because everyone had been safe in social distancing for a long period of time and we felt it was pretty safe. You know there was no outside stressors and so and we're still going to maintain our six feet distance. You're going to be outside all that stuff But Right before we left. I read this article that said Great News. Grandparents can hug their grandkids again. You can't get it from kids. Old People can't get it from little kids. World Health Organization said this I think I read it in the associated. Press when we got back. There was an article on. Cnn said that they could get it from. You know what I mean. We're living through this time where it's like. We don't know what the right answer. All we can do is trust the scientists that people who know what they're talking about in those are the people who are saying that we're not gonNA have sports this year. You know and so. That's that's the uniqueness and that's the difficulty I think in living through this particular well connor. We both do trend a little bit pessimistic but as my dad likes to say at least you're consistent. That's right. He would always say about in like my parents. Were pretty tough on schoolwork growing up so we had like a task made be quizzing us and we'd miss questioned. We'd miss a second one. My Dad would say well Jenny. At least you're consistent you're zero for you. Got both of them wrong. That's a sneaky like You know in his own way sneaky. Positively thing though right I mean. There's like a way of around like a cognitive tool there. I think Dr Renta's had going for him. Maybe Connor all right moving on the topic to the red rifle has landed in Dallas for a job backing up quarterback Dak Prescott the nine year Bengals quarterback could not secure number one gig despite having been linked to both the Patriots and the Jaguars. Is this the last? We've seen of Dalton as starter or are there brighter days ahead? I think they're brighter. Days Ahead Fran Dalton and I don't know why but I was moved to write something for the site when he was kind of unceremoniously waved by the Bengals. I think we're all a little too hard on Andy Dalton over the last nine years firstly. It's not his fault that the bengals kept him as the starter for nine years and never looked for upgrade. It's not his fault that the organization it was never spent in free agency To help him and diversify the weapons that he had yes yet. Aj Green Tea. Geo Bernard and some of these guys but you know this was not a murderer's row on offense and it's you know. He was a second round pick. He was the fifth quarterback taken in the draft. They didn't move up and get anybody. They just sort of decided that he was the guy one day and I think you had a pretty good career. All Things considered in Cincinnati to the point. Where if you look at DVD A? Or qbr plus any of those things in two thousand fifteen. He was the third best quarterback in football like better than almost any other quarterback and football. So I don't know. I think that we should be nicer to Andy. Dalton that I think we are a collective group but we should also be nicer to everybody to. I agree with that Connor. He want a lot of games. He went to the playoffs. They were always in the mix for five straight years so I agree with that. I think this is an interesting move. It's a one year deal. He's of course from Texas. Perhaps this is just a one year stopover. I think it makes sense for both sides right. He has a home in the Dallas area. He he said T- talked to SPN and said that was a factor. And I think in these uncertain times you know. He didn't land anywhere whereas with an opportunity to win a starting job. Go back home where you already have established place to live your settled in in the Dallas area. So go back home. Spend this year as a backup. The cowboys get insurance For whatever the Dak Prescott situation is and You know I did a stunning stat about that Prescott. Though do you know that? He's third in consecutive. Starts among active quarterbacks really behind Philip rivers and Russell Wilson. Wow so it's not like he's you know a guy that you're thinking is missing games all the time because he has not Miss Games. That's really interesting. I got a laugh out of the I. I saw some people trying to drum this up as a tool to motivate Prescott to sign his franchise tender into you know perhaps agreed to a shorter term. Deal and I'll make a point on this quickly and then pivot back Dalton but anybody who thinks that Dak Prescott should not should accept less than being the highest paid quarterback in the. Nfl Does Not Watch football with regularity. Think he is a fantastic. He's one of the most efficient players in the league. He's had a great last two seasons. He's paired with a dynamic young offensive coordinator and every other middling quarterback has been able to reset the market for the last ten years. And there's zero reason why? Dak Prescott shouldn't have the chance to do that. He's just as good as Matt. Stafford when he was re upped or Derek Carr when he became the highest paid quarterback in the NFL or luck or any of these players. At least statistically as accomplished as any of these guys. So I think that's silly but I do think it's a good move and I always think it's a good move by any team. That wants to stockpile starting caliber quarterbacks because even if you never end up using Andy Dalton. He's a he's a tradable asset to. I mean there are teams. That might need him at some point before the deadline this year. Yeah I agree. I think we'll see him. Start Games again. I don't think it'll be well who knows that there will be a season. I don't think it'll be in this next. Nfl season. But I think we'll see him play again in the grand scheme of things like let's say we're sitting there in September Hopefully still taping the weak side podcasts. The the wildly critically acclaimed weakside podcast. And we still don't have football how we should go back and we should look back on this. A hot take debate between whether Andy Dalton will be in the future. Just how menial that seems in the grand scheme of things September you know. Can you believe back in? May We're arguing about Andy Dalton off. I read hey you know we know that. Shelby has the receipts for the show so at any point can hold us accountable for our takes. So he is he is he uses them judiciously all right topic three connor. Yeah Jaguars Dave Caldwell told pro. Football talk this week that the team is moving forward with Leonard Fournette. Despite some trade chatter formerly the number one number four pick for net stars fallen a bit northern Florida and it seems like the Jaguars were not blown away by an offer. It begs the question just in the grand scheme of things. What is going on in Jacksonville? Is this a rebuild? Is this tear down? Are they treading water? Like wh what? What would you describe their current situation as I really like? How you put it there. Connor a treading water. I think that's basically it for you. Know what I mean like but this team just to me feels like if you're bottoming out for Trevor Lawrence Great. I think that that is a viable business. Plan I would do that. He's that good. But if you're not like you you you upgraded it offensive coordinator you've got Jay Gruden who I think is maybe a top twelve offensive coordinator ten or twelve quarter. I think is really good at designing offenses Cam. Newton is stall on the market. You just let James Winston Go. Andy Dalton. You didn't make a run at him. You have good offensive line. I know I just. I don't understand what's going on there. Yeah I think. They're treading water because they have a general manager. That's been there since two thousand thirteen a head coach. That's been there since twenty seventeen and the side from the year in which they are one year away from the Super Bowl. Everything has or one win away from the Super Bowl. Everything has gone downhill so I think they're treading water because it's the safer thing to do than just saying yes. We are doing what the dolphins did in year. One of Brian Floors era. You know what the move is now. In a couple of years ago for SL wrote kind of the coaching survival handbook. Which is if you're a new head coach. It's all the list of the people that you blame in the things that you do. Generally before taking the blame on yourself or being fired but the general manager playbook Which we've seen in various forms from the embattled general manager playbook from Jason Light and Steve Time has been just take that big berry bond swing. And maybe it'll work out like I. I think Steve. I don't know how much trouble he was in but the cardinals had some bad years. There Josh Rosen. Pick didn't work out there to fire their head coach after one year. And so you just like if you draft a new quarterback you're almost buying yourself a new window of opportunity where it's like. Well you can't let go me now because hey this guy's developing and this is a new thing we're building and it's different than the old thing and I know how to do it. And if YOU JASON. Lights like we have Tom Brady. We can do this for the next two years. I don't know I'm I'm much more of an advocate for the wild swing for the fences. If you're an embattled general manager their coach Save Your Job. Playbook is really M. qb classic preachy. Say That honestly I mean we consult that all the time because it's just so spot on you know you got to pay attention you got to say you know. I'm going to get more involved in the opposite side of the ball. It's funny thought about that today. When speaking of the cardinals they were touting their fact that all of the players that they drafted in this year's draft class were team captains. And you know that is that is typically an in a battle general manager. Move Although Steve is not an embattled general manager but usually when you're sinking to the bottom of the boat you say well. We drafted all team. Captains were injecting the locker room with this with this solution of leadership and I know that's a common trope thing but not in the cardinals case because I feel like they're in pretty good grounds actually this year. All right no no. She wants. Who KNOWS WE'LL SRI move onto topic number four connor? Let's do it all right. The jets signed now thirty-seven-year-old running back Frank Gore Tobacco Levy on bell and be clubhouse leader Gore Sunday starting his college football career. This year has had a pretty remarkable career as a third round. Pick out of Miami is signing a signal that the jets are finally understanding what it takes to build some good vibes in the locker room. I think that's an interesting signing. This is really the first year I feel like of Adam geeses tenure last year there was the through the draft. The drama with Mike maccagnan right gaze wasn't shown on the videos and draft. Today they let go of cabinet after the draft. The team was built that spring under turmoil so then they bring in Joe Douglas and so this is their first chance to rebuild team with gas and Douglas. Working together so I think this signing really shows that somebody that gays coached in Miami obviously liked what he brought to the team. And you know bell is this. I don't think this will affect bells workload in any way. I think it's just as you described it. He's Gore's a clubhouse leader. He somebody that can teach the guys around him how to work and it's an important locker room ally for gays new building a culture. I feel like that's important taking it back to the twenty seven jets because this is what I was hoping you would do reno. We saw that Bart Scott Jim Leonard. Trevor Pryce all REX's guys from Baltimore. He steadily brought them up to New York. To first and foremost run. The Defensive Scheme which was complicated clearly saw the value of having those guys there because when he went to buffalo they were not able to run the same defensive scheme because they didn't have those guys who are knowledgeable and but also to be there his guys in the locker room and I think. That's what Gore's I think you and I witnessed the last true great clubhouse skies for the jets who I mean. We covered the last to play the last two times that they were in the playoffs right. I don't think they've gone since then. Correct that's correct. Yeah you covered Thomas Jones right for a season. I Miss Thomas Joe Thomas Jones Ladainian Tomlinson You know I think was another one. That really comes to mind. There were some Jericho. Khatri was a great clubhouse guy at the time. I mean the jets really understood that and I feel like at least just keeping an eye on them for a little bit more of an outside perspective. They haven't had a lot of that since then that that real kind of ingrained presence like someone like Frank Gore Yeah. I think it's really smart. Move for all of those reasons and it's wild that his son is beginning college football that amazing for running back into running back. That came in with all of these injury question marks to to last this long. It's just truly remarkable. One of my favorite frank or stories before the two thousand eleven. I think it was When the when they lost the giants in the In the NFC championship game the air that they went to the Super Bowl someone asked Frank Gore if he was seven years into the league by then if he could name every running back that was drafted ahead of them and without hesitation just ripped into it like there was like a list like eleven is long and he just he named every single one of them in like five seconds and super driven. Dude you know not the guy that always comes out in his loud and raw rar or anything but just a super driven guy you know. Yeah Yeah I. That's a great story. I love when guys can recite all of the I think I would not be able to retain my memory. You don't have a list of of ledger interns before you or sounds like your Mike. Connor no comment all right topic number five. The draft has led to the typical outpouring of confidence from all thirty two fan bases across the league. Some warranted some not but which fan base in particular do you feel has gotten the foggiest over the past week? And should they be careful? Frog careful should the. Yeah I mean you should always be careful. When your feeling froggy feeling froggy for anyone? Who doesn't know? This is kind of the lingo that Jenny. Use Me more up on a lot of the latest terms. And so you you guys might not be in. That's fine you know. You're feeling very overconfident. Your peacocking a little bit and so I've noticed that when you're doing draft grades or any of this stuff where you're being critical of the NFL on a wide scale. There certain fan base that you just hear a little bit more chatter from after they have a good draft in there just feeling a little fortified so I don't know it. Does anything come to mind for you in particular? My answer is the same answer as every year at this time is the browns. We have a new regime. Reason for optimism. Kevin Stefanski will be the one to unlock Baker Mayfield's potential. I think list like this would be remiss if one of US didn't take the browns conner because this feels like every year at this time we're saying the same thing and Odell Beckham. Junior is going to be in better form after coming off of his injuries. And all of those things you know. Finally the Organization is aligned. They worked together well during the draft. I mean I would covered a draft the year. They drafted Corey. Coleman and with all like our super aligned. Hugh Jackson Paul De Pedestrian. And they were not aligned. It's one of those things where you're always like y know you you go into every year every player every coach thinking it. It's actually remarkable their ability to In the off season like absorb and then a spouse optimism like relentlessly and all these guys every single player. I'm in the best shape of my life. I'm bigger faster stronger than ever was before. I understand the playbook better than I ever have before. I'm a better coach than I was year. I'm a better trainer than I was your government better. Gm than it was a year ago. I I find it hard. I find it hard grabbing it optimism like that like. I can't the football season. I don't say with any confidence that I'm a better writer than I was the year before have you. This plays into our general pessimism. Connor true I you know maybe the the weeks I guess. Maybe we'll spend a week with you know someone who can help us with the reason. We're called the weak side and true. True but yeah. I don't know a hotel thing made me laugh. I think that browns are good one because while they're fans are cautiously optimistic. I think because they've been hurt so many times. The last two years in particular have placed an accelerated on that because of Baker. Mayfield having a glimmer glimmer of hope acquiring Odell Beckham. Now they supposedly fix the offensive line. But I I don't know who knows. Yeah WHO's years Connor? I'm going go to the cardinals I think I've heard from a lot of cardinals. Fans have been generally positive with my review of the cardinals off season. Although I did express a little bit of hesitancy with Isaiah Simmons you know we heard some events. Joseph's comments about not being able to utilize him the way that Clemson did. I kinda put a spotlight on that and a lot of cardinals. Who What are you doing? We we got this. We're going GONNA have a great defense. Everything's GonNa be awesome. I don't know you know. Deandre Hopkins is good Kyle. Murray is going to take a big step forward. I agree with all of that But just you know you got a guard yourself. You don't WanNa get hurt. That's all I'm saying. I want anybody to get hurt. You're checking them a little bit. I'm just saying hey guys stick a step back. That's all it's a tough division. Lots of competition It's hard to stand out in the NFC west. So I think that's a good pick connor. Just beware guys you know. Beware whenever you're Feelin froggy. It's always a good opportunity to just step back for a second and say this warranted. Do I feel really really good about this before you get the Tattoo? A lot of people are GONNA go out and get the Tattoo. The Tattoo shops opened up the the NFC champion Tattoo for the coming year. With all that stuff you know. Just take some time. Think about it. Consider this your war. Ning Oh perfect. Speaking of this right into the Oracle. Yeah so with the schedule. Release coming up. I think we both have kind of some nuggets on that closed the show. I will say that My team so every year. They're sort of that team. That has the hot off season And then stumbles into a hundred. Primetime Games. That you know it never ends up being a good situation. The browns were certainly one of those teams last year. Where on Monday night? Football were watching them. Whatever foreign seven try to amble their way through a game and you know the football and I think that based on this off season on you know. There's going to be a couple teams. We might get stuck with. I think that we have to be wary of. We might get a lot of prime time. Bengals with Joe Borough which is something to be wary of that. That's a little scary to me especially early in the season. If things aren't working out there we make it a lot of primetime titans which I think might get a little ugly after their run to the AFC championship game that team. I think might be in line for a little bit of a regression of sorts. And just based on you know the entire deal here. I think that we might be in line for some more. Prime time. Raiders. And that's always a concern for me as well so just in general just my friend is consensus. Plays off this well because I also agree. Connor there's always some oversaturation of certain teams. And I think that we can all agree that by mid season of the next. Nfl season so whenever that is maybe it's November twenty twenty. Maybe it's February twenty twenty one. Maybe it's October. Twenty twenty one whenever the middle part of the next season is we will all be bored of the Bucks. Yes no doubt. It's a little bit more of an Oracle because it's a prediction but I don't know I feel like it's a consensus like I feel like we're all just gonNA be like okay. It's cool that Tom Brady's playing somewhere else. But maybe maybe we don't need to see the bucks on prime time again. I saw Rob Gronkowski on the masked singer last night. Novas already sick of the buccaneers he. Oh the buccaneers of managed to penetrate my primetime television non-football television viewing. So that's already. They're already on my radar. Because of that. I don't need to be thinking about Tom. Brady and Rob Gronkowski. When I'm just a Nice Cup of tea at the end of the day you know what do you think the over under for Primetime Bucks Games is? There's probably there's probably actually over underclassmen set but we haven't definitely not four. Yeah I was GONNA say maybe five five so high. I don't know you do four and a half right all right. Four and a half. Yeah yeah it might be five right. They'll get one the weekend they'll have to get one. The opening we definitely will have on the opening weekend and then I don't know if there's any like classic Brady Revenge Games on their slate or anything like that like a brady rodgers or like a brady something like that. You know I mean the Brady Brady breeze. Obviously you know is going to be big right. that'll be a prime timer Off this is going to be a Yeah a lot of bucks we're GONNA have to. We're GONNA have to get used to it by then. Who knows you know what I mean? We could be talking about how amazing Chris. Godwin is progressing or something like sure we also could have been saying. Wow this is so fun to see the cream school uniforms but only a missed opportunity. Here I don't even WanNa talk about it. It makes me so upset. Offset that a little bit right. Yes you know. Maybe it's just you know. Maybe it's like a visceral certain colors. Just make you happy. Orange and white. Just you know it does it for me. That's all I think. Bruce Arians wearing a cream colored kangol would have been great a lot of missed opportunities a lot of missed opportunities. But that's that's what she gets. Sometimes you know and that's why we're here at the weakside podcast to make up for when other people let you down life. Were here twice a week every week but we better get a chargers night game so they can wear the navy ones with yes outline of the bolts right. That would look great. I think unfortunately they're going to be stuck in like Thursday night. Football Hell you know. Yeah probably but I said it's a see them me too. I'm high the chargers. We had someone replying last week on twitter. That said finally national podcast. That's high on the chargers I would say that accurately describes us. I think we're we are pro. We are a pro chargers pro dimes but not necessarily anti football podcast. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Bryan Cranston (01-11-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Bryan Cranston (01-11-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log broadcasting from the Mercedes studio in New York City. This is Dan Patrick final hour on this sunny but chilly day in New York City, Dan on the danettes, Dan, Patrick show and some fun today. Russell Wilson stopped by we talked to Bruce Arians new head coach of the buccaneers Tony selling. Hall of fame. Finalist covering the chargers, the patriots and the great Bryan, Cranston. Will join us in studio coming up colds chiefs. Cowboys Rams chargers. Patriots eagles saints. The biggest surprise out of those four would be. Now. The eagles are the biggest underdog. I think they're eight or nine point dogs chargers. Four point dogs. I think the Cowboys are six point underdogs that sound about right, mclovin. And the Colson chiefs the colts about four or five point underdogs. I believe he got them. All right. I'm double checking. Okay. I so perception wise the biggest biggest upset would be colts over the chiefs. Would it be the eagles beating the saints? Chargers over the patriots is who paulie votes for. I think the chargers are better team. But I have a hard time. Picturing the chargers beating the patriots, historically. People betting in Vegas. They're all taking the dogs. You know there. There's an overwhelming. Leaning towards those four underdogs and taken the points there. I don't know as far as the money line. Like just saying outright who who is going to win. I feel like two of the four will win outright. I'm banking on the chargers. I since I had them going far. And then I somebody surprising somebody here, you know, the colts the way they're playing Cowboys are playing great. I like that momentum of playing a wildcard game as long as you're not banged up. And then you go into that next game. Because it takes that team that had the week off just a little bit longer to get started. And if you can somehow get out, and that's why I think it's imperative that the chargers score a touchdown. Like, no don't go down and kick a field goal. If you want to send a message to the patriots score. Touchdown. The first time you had the ball the eagles against the saints. It could be a shootout. I think it's going to be a lot. Closer than people think. I would not be surprised if the colts beat the chiefs the Cowboys beat the Rams. Even the chargers beating the patriots. I I understand what police saying because they're still this perception of you have to be Brady and Bella check, even though the patriots to me aren't as scary as they have been. I have to see the chargers do it to believe it the eagles feeding the saints. Even though the saints are big favorites there. The eagles are playing great and the saints had the week off. I don't think the saints offense has been playing. Well, the last couple of weeks same with the Rams offense. And I got a colts team that has maybe the best quarterback right now in the playoffs so far. So that's what we have coming up this weekend. Few phone calls in here cliff in Wisconsin is back high cliff. Thanks for holding. What you have for me. Good morning DP cliff five eight one eighty five. Couple of quick points here when you're interviewing Walter, please. Remember that he is the one who knocks. And Secondly, I to your point about quarterbacks if they do win that second the Super Bowl are they quarterback or are they hall of fame ready? So I'd be remiss if I didn't point out there are quarterbacks out there who have won that second Super Bowl, and they aren't in the hall of fame, most, notably Jim Plunkett. You know, you look at his assistants compared to quarterbacks of his era, most notably Joe Namus and Bob greasy. His statistics are are are side by side with those quarterbacks and they are in the hall of fame. You know, he led those raider teams to Super Bowls, and you know, Plunkett was was virtually on the on the scrappy, and they took them off the scrap heap, and he. He led the first wildcard team to the to a Super Bowl victory. And they need to years later, he demolished the Redskins as a as an underdog. And I I think you know, if he had an offensive line, you know, he was the first draft pick out of out of Stanford the Heisman Trophy winner, you know. And if they you know, he he virtually got he got killed out in in in in Boston the Boston patriots. I think and he actually was going to give up football. And then al-took them off the scrap heap. Put him on me put him on the bench for three years. He was behind Pastorino Passerini supposed to be the the the predecessor the they traded stabler for Pastorino, Passerini dot. Book and leg, I think four games into the individual eighty season playoff Plunkett comes off the bench and click cliff cliff. I can't I can't I can't do thirty for thirty Jim Plunkett. But thank you. I I was cliff Plunkett, brother. I I understand Jim Plunkett story with two Super Bowls. He wasn't consistent enough to be a hall of fame even with two Super Bowls. But you're right. You know, he he Heisman Trophy winner. Randy Votaw, I think was his starting receiver patriots. And he got roughed up there and then salvaged his career. Yes. Mclovin astra. So he's the Super Bowl where they beat the eagles. They all had so much. Stick them on their body. There's no way. That's right. Everybody was using it over this thick of they were funny though. Like you couldn't walk by a guy without like being stuck to him with the raiders. But Lester Hayes would just slather it on. And he just say he wasn't trying to. Hide anything. It was just, you know, their colors were silver black and yellow because the yellow was the stick that was all over them. Yeah. Paulie? And they took that stick them and make gloves out of it. So we have the same thing. Now. Like the stick 'em Lester Hayes at. Yeah. Same as the gloves. Just prettier and more sellable kids. Andrew in Florida. Hi, andrew. Hey, dan. How you doing good, sir? Hey, five ten a hockey player to twenty five. Tolling because if let's just talk to the point if you might many looked like Philip rivers with this controversy about hall of Famer or not so way 'cause we're all about appearance. I've always thought this while the since your show, but you know, say she kinda looks comma giant, San, but he kind of looks a little Wimpy. But he did the great patriots. I'm Brady twice. So what do you say? I think he's going to be a hall of Famer I think the name I think playing in New York, and you beat the patriots choice, and he's going to have respectable numbers. He doesn't look the part of you know, the dashing quarterback or had that swagger doesn't have that feel to him, but he did produce an and even though his defense is won those games ally. Still came up with a big drive in both of those games to win a Super Bowl. So yeah, I think is a hall of Famer, Mike and Alaska joins us. I Mike when you have for me today. Hey, Dan, how you doing five seven one seventy five. You guys are talking a little bit about some chilly weather in New York. Well, I got a little bit of woke up morning negative thirty nine below zero in my cabin and Cowboys fan for fifty three years in sixty and. There. What's what's that? What's going on? What's that noise? No, no. What's that noise for are going that was my alarm to turn off my car warmed my car this morning story about that. What what city are you in an Alaska? I'm in this small coal mining town called Healy Alaska pretty much, right? Smack dab in the middle of the state just north of the great Denali national park. So yeah, it's a little Kelly morning and hold on a second here. Mike Pauley do have the forecast for where Mike is Danny Doppler five thousand is low of minus thirty four today. But it's going to go up to minus six on Saturday. It's gonna be sixteen degrees on Sunday. Yeah. What are you complaining about Mike? We do have a heat wave coming in. But he was to be in the low to mid forties. Zero all below zero. Okay. Yeah. So. Of your core. I thought it was on hold. I couldn't change stuff. Sorry about that. But sorry, guys. So we got a chance to are you married? No, well, divorced. So. Yeah. Yeah. People people all the where the right? You know? He'll go go towns got their own weather guy. Yeah. Person. Can you take a quick wit? A Mike give me I don't care about your love of the Cowboys. I just care about us surviving in Alaska. Can you take a picture of the on the surroundings outside send it to us? I got my Wilson to you guys. All right. Yeah. Do that. And good luck to your Cowboys this weekend there. Yeah. That's mike. He's all fired up. That guy's awesome. Yeah. You don't. Let's do a remote for Mike south from my house in Alaska. I got forty nine states ruined company. Black diamond grill. There's a lot of good bars restaurants, and then he'll ask them. Okay. All right. All right. I'm feeling it. I'm ready to go. I want to go to Alaska so bad. Let me see Dan in Chicago joining us. Hi, dan. What do you have for me too? Yeah. I don't know about you. But I was at the game Sunday. And I've got Cody parkey to TC. So seeing him on the today show is probably the last thing I need if he really wants to do some good press. There is goose island beer company in Chicago this weekend tomorrow, actually, they're having the Cody party challenge. So if you can take a forty three yard field goal you win free beer for a year. So I'm Cody party. The only press I mean, prepare for is trying to kick the biggest kick of my life in front of all these armchair kickers thing. They can do what he does. And then the free beer for a year. I just give one to everybody that went out there watching because I'm just so sick of the Cody parkey narrative if you look at the game and he did a great job on Monday. There are so many different things that the bears did to to screw themselves up lose that game. And just down to the guy that we didn't want it to come down. And it was a sub going. Compassi that we had. So if I'm Cody parkey, I'm going to goose island beer company tomorrow kicking the field goal winning. Everybody some beer, right? Thank you, Dan. Okay. Here's the problem would have Cody parkey misses the field goal. See he can't show up there. What if he it's the post? Oh, no. You can't. I just don't need to see him on the today show. I think he's been unfairly blamed, and you know, if you're a bears fan or you play for the bears your coach the bears if you didn't want it to come down to Cody parkey, then you should have done something different. Because it came down to him. How about play defense? How about stop them on fourth and goal not? None of those things matter. No. Of course, not just the kick. Because it's doing doing it. Don't think. Yeah. That's a better story. Don't block. Yeah. But he hit the post hit both of them. Yeah. Doing doing Campbell eighty five bears. Never kicked him. No fourth out every time. Yeah. They made them all well, they had Butler by didn't even use of these like having him around because he's cool. I like his nickname is bud head when you I been around Jim McMahon and Kevin Butler was great field goal kicker. And he would he would say, hey, Butthead. Yes for Cody was to miss that kick at the beer vent. The little grew him. I need that extra. Friday. Fritzy, Cranston in the building you're feeling good. Very good. Bryan. Cranston showed up an hour early. The did. Did you give him the wrong time? No, he just finished whatever he was doing early. And he said his PR people said as long as there's a green room for him to hang out make some calls by TD. He didn't feel when can because he got here. And then he he walked down around the block to go. Get something to eat for another show to hop on real quick, eight minutes, he told the person lobby. I am the danger. I am the one who knocks. He's got a little crazy down there. Now. I don't think you should Brian just left lap. Yeah. He did. Yeah. He's going to. Keep you out. I've teamed up with full sail university launching the damn Patrick's scolded sportscasting. It's an accelerated bachelor's degree designed to teach. You all the aspects of sportscasting from being in front of the camera behind the camera podcasting radio everything in between also east sports were involved in that as well. 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I it's a a wooden appendage to an anatomy that a man would have. Okay. I think that's so this kind of this is under the covers. It's under the covers. Yeah. And then you have a string. That's pulled. Right. I did. I had we could say he gets an erection quite accidentally and. And and this is what the prop guys came up with is for me to surp- tissues Lee, pull a string. So that we show. An and this is what happens in real life to quadriplegics. They can't always control. Yeah. Anything so down. Did you give this out to everybody? You know? Just a no, no, no just you is that is that a one of one it's the only one ever made for the movie the upside. Yeah. You got it. Okay. An anecdote. Got it got the only one I appreciate that. Where are you going to sell it now because now it's more valuable you're gonna like the only one I'm gonna put it on? There's other things that I have paulie taken off EBay EBay is taking off. Back when you think of this color, this whatever it is. It is a a pungent hung worse. Full color. Doesn't sound good. No. No. It's it's it would it would look really really good on some people. Not on me. I'm not thinking that that's your color. Okay. I'm looking at my look at this wetter. It looks like a throwback Uni. I just looked at it. I want I it looks like the old NFL link act the day with those leather helmet and leather helmet. And it would look I don't know if that's your color. A we gonna do this all day. You're going to go back. You're a little upset that I don't like your sweater. No. I appreciate your honesty. Can't you act? Like you like this. Great actor. I really do. I like it speak at a great acting that wasn't convincing at all. If you get a chance to see Brian on Broadway as I did and network, and it was wonderful. That was great performance and you've extended. Yes, you're stay. Yes. We're going all the way through the end of April now. So okay. Plenty of chances to come see a New York stage performance, and you can do see Brian cry. You see me cry? Yeah. Yeah. That can you can you cry right now? Yes, you can. Yeah. By looking. Okay. The disaster. At that sweater is what kind of makes me you could cry on cue. Yeah. I mean, it's it's not like your machine, but but if I start to think about something, and I can bring tears to my eyes. Yeah. Are you asking? I think I sort of was, but you you want me to cry right now. Well. I can cry right now. Okay. Are we having a cry off? Yeah. We can I don't for crying out loud. That's what we're doing. We're crying out loud. This is how you win any side here that can you can you can see my eyes are watering up a little bit. I'm tearing up a little bit. Yes, you're very needy. This. Compliment my sweater morning. I'm this way all the time. We were talking about twenty year anniversary of the sopranos. And we were wondering would breaking bad have been made. If we didn't have the sopranos. I don't think so are they would what they were able to David chase was able to do and creating a character. Like, Tony soprano was certainly paving the way to allow the space for someone like Walter white to exist. Yeah. It was it was groundbreaking because you I don't know if you root for the bad guy, but you don't root against it. Feels like there's empathy for the bad guy. Well, it is. It's not that clear. What you root for is humanity. When you see the humanity, and Tony soprano, for instance, the element of going to a therapist says he's searching he's looking for something else looking for some measure of wholeness as a human being. And that's embraceable. And I think that's why that character work is that he he would go and he would kill someone. And then he'd go home, and he'd have to deal with his sons homework or tardiness wife is complaining he was just the guy dealing with the stuff that we all deal with and and you go I I know what that guy's dealing with. But Walter white didn't go to a therapist and breaking band. No. He didn't have he didn't have time. He had the clock was ticking. Yeah. On Walter whites. Do you think about that was that ever broached in the in the script that he would actually be confessing to somebody? I think I think Vince Gilligan did consider something like that. But it seemed it seemed to slow down the pace and the tempo of what he was trying to do. And as you notice as the seasons went on it it quickened we lost some of the humor of the earlier seasons. When things got more tense and desperate and naturally the humor falls away because it's too. Horrific to to witness. So we also brought up sex in the city came out before the sopranos and say here's HBO with sex in the city, which was that was different. Yeah. I go back to hillstreet blues as maybe a TV show that kind of and you were on an episode of hillstreet blues, weren't you? I was I played Dennis Francis. Lawyer. I I was I was I don't know twenty eight years old I play his lawyer. I would they're hiring me for the lawyer. Really? I was surprised but they did. And yet that was a ground-breaking show, Steven Bochco and wonderful wonderful work, and I went onto four different productions of Stephen Botka, botch goes because his you did LA law. I did an episode of LA law, and then I had two experiences that weren't so good on on his shows. One was called Brooklyn south. Where I was hired to play an internal affairs cop. Yeah. And I never got a script. It was just sides in those days, my fax machine at night was rolling off. And you had to cut the paper in between remember that? And I would have reams of dialogue, and I'm working at six thirty tomorrow morning, and just blocks and blocks of dialogue and names and events, and I'm going I know what I'm saying. And so I just had a pounding headache throughout the entire eight days. It was terrible. Could you have handled success that you've had now when you're twenty eight years old? I don't I don't know. I mean when I was twenty five I moved to New York to be on a soap opera, so in a small dose. I had like oh look at that. I'm working as an actor and dating models from the Ford agency and things like that. It would really fantastic really. Yeah. Let's talk about that. Oh, it was. It was a good time. This is the roaring eighties. Man. I eighty three eighty four if you ever go to studio fifty four. Yeah. How'd you do? I. What did you do? You just go, and you dance, and you and you meet some people and you're going back room, and you have some fun. And did you have any famous friends back then? No, I I was I didn't know anybody. And I was really young. And I still don't know to this day who anybody is. You know, it's like way. Really? I really don't. I know you. Yeah. You guys that adds. I know these guys who who's your famous friends now. Tom Hanks is a friend, and he's is a big, but only because our wives of known each other for forty years for maybe longer. It's an so that's how I got to know him. And he's yet as Tom Hanks ever made you mad now is he is he capable of making you mad. I think if he did something despicable. I would agree. What he doesn't do that? No. He is. He is. He is my role model even though I'm about four or five months older than he and he hits stardom quickly in this twenties, and then held onto it and then evolved wonderfully in aged into new roles, and but more than that, it's what he was able to set up for himself personally. And I tell this young actors all the time, you get your home life said that's your foundation. So make that as sane as possible. So that you can go insane at work. And and Tom was I saw that clearly what he was doing and how he structured that. And and I thought that's what I want. I want to be able to have that solid and be able to do my work as a side thing and always be able to come back home. What is the challenge for you? Because you've done com. Andy you've done drama. You've done theater is there. One other. I think biggest challenge right now is looking at you. And that's what I mean. It's it's it's almost hurts. Your eyes a little bit doesn't it? It you have to I have to kind of look up at your forehead. I can't I can't you want me to take this off. And just be topless is that what you're asking. Well, yes. I mean, you're big on nudity. Not afraid of nude, and I'm not afraid of nudity. I don't know if I'd say, I'm big on it. But other people looking at me naked might say, I'm big. Oh, yeah. Oh, imaginary ashtray? Cigarettes. But does your I know your wife is been you know, you've been married a long time. But later when you're there with the scene in your in your underwear or just your daughter like, you know, did they get embarrassed? Or do they goof on you not so much anymore? My, you know, they don't watch too much of that. My daughter's an actor too now. So we're it's the family business, and it were so used to that. It's it's like you're able to have your imaginary life and your real life separated, and and both of them celebrated who's in their underwear. More often you or will Ferrell. Oh, I think we'll probably more off an e does that full on. Thing. And he's got the height. Appendix scarred. And he's so fearless, man. He's like Bolger over his his in he removed his appendix for the comedy. That's that's that's what he does dedication. That's dedication. Have you have you ever see who have you competed for jobs with? I have no idea. I don't I don't know who I really compete against you don't know who's all addition for well. I heard I heard like for Walter white. I heard that John Cusack. Was name was mentioned, and Matthew Broderick's name was mentioned. And Steve Zahn was mentioned. But that's all I know is that they were mentioned, I don't know if if it was ever if they ever really had meetings, or I have no idea, I don't pay any attention to that. Do you audition? Do you have to know? We'll everything's an audition. Even when you're not officially reading for something when you're meeting director. For a possible role. It's an audition. Yeah. He or she is looking going. I think he's right for it. Or I don't think he's going to be right for and your intern. Look talking to them about how do you see this character played out? And do do I think I can work with you. But I would never know meeting you that you could have been Walter white. Like, what would you show me if I was a director? And I said, oh, okay. Brian come on. And then I would have you read some things. Yeah. You'd read if there was a regular audition setup you'd go in and you'd have with all sides, and you read a part of the character. And then they determine whether or not they felt you could do it. Now, I was very fortunate because I was on one episode of the x files that Vince Gilligan wrote and produced and he was on the set and the character that he wrote for this particular episode was despicable anti Semite angry irascible. In the car with dacoven. Yes. Okay. Yes. And and and, but you still had the feel some level of human compassion for this man when he died as a waste of human life. And so it does take a little finesse to be able to walk that line of being in one sense despicable and another sense. He still a human being like still care that he you know, I I don't want him to die, but I didn't like him. And so there's that kind of thing. And Vince thought this is the combination that I want for for Walter white without Vince Gilligan, I'm not sitting in this chair right now. And you're not wearing that sweater. Right. John cusack. Is drying his ACA sitting in his chair? Yeah. You did curb your enthusiasm. Yeah. Is there any script? No. There's no script. Larry David's sends out a a little breakdown of the scenes that you're in and he'll say in this scene. You're going to talk about your love of truffles. And that you, you know, something else, whatever responsibility. You have as far as information getting a revealed, and then heat says what he's going to reveal. And this was the inequality of my my chairs in my therapist officer something which was the first episode. I did and and then from then on it's just it's you'd make it up and somehow get to that point where you where you get now. I had the the great good fortune of being in comedy boot camp being on on Seinfeld for a few years and watch. Watching Larry David craft a joke like a surgeon, and Jerry, and Jerry, and he working together. Like it talking in a language. You can't really understand unless you're on the inside. And I was able to be watching that tennis match between them and going. Oh my God. They're the timing and care. It's like a souffle. It's that delicate you could crush a joke or you can lift it just by the way, it's delivered or the time. And I think that's the key is in comedians talk about this and Seinfeld we had him when when did we have him York Super Bowl by five years ago? And then so we did something we did a prerecorded bit. And we had him assess it, and he did it in brutal terms like I would say you need to be faster, you need to be louder take the air out here, and you should have ended it this way. But he he broke it down in real time. Time where he's watching it. Yes. And you know to have somebody a professional ear listening for things. Right. They don't necessarily. It's not what they see is what what they hear in. How the cadence of it and everything, and that's what's amazing. And you're right. You know, you've got that's a fast learning curve. If you're around those two yet, you it is in it's a lot to take in because Jerry probably had the ten thousand hours to become proficient an expert in that in that field, and he he knows from one night to another he go, you know, I rushed that bit too fast. I'm gonna pull back on that just a touch, and and he crafts that. And then every night is different. You have a different audience you done stand up. Yeah. I did. I did stand up back in the eighties. And the only reason I did it was because I was afraid of it. It scared me the idea of getting up on stage having a microphone and a spotlight, and that's it go. And so I thought oh, I got to overcome this fear. So I. I started doing standup back in the heyday of when there's so many comedy clubs all around. And I did at the improv the comedy store the laugh factory the laugh, stop, the even the playboy club. And this is all in LA had open mic nights. I never got paid for it, nor should I ever been paid for I rose to the level of mediocrity. And I remember one night. I was at the laugh stop in the valley. And I had my best night. I mean, I crushed and laughter and laughter and laughter. And I was so juiced. I was so excited that I got in the car, and I drove right to the improv on Melrose. And I said you gotta get me on says, I got it. I got I finally got guy says, well, we're all hang on someone might drop out someone did drop out and about about ten to one o'clock in the morning. It was like twelve fifty in the morning. Okay. You can go on for five minutes. Okay. And I go on in this the same routine. Same. Night get up there. Crickets, just unbe an I'm, and that's how hard it is. Because it's like it threw me because I thought wait a minute. Wait a minute. I this is exactly the same set. And I know the timing of what I'm doing nothing. And it was like oh my God. I gotta get out of its it's brutal. Do you think that the better looking? You are the tougher. It is to be funding. Well, I should know. Not extremely y. You're not that funny. You know, you. You're just Hankyu good hanging. Hey, I know the burden of of gorgeous nece. Yeah. Like could Brad Pitt be a stand up comedian, like what would people I don't know, you know, not so much? I think when you are a good looking person. And and you know, you've had that gift your whole life. You things are are available to you that are not available to other people. But there are some things that you're not accessible to if you're a wallflower if you're introverted if you're not very attractive. You have the luxury of observation you can see the smart people in the good people playing in the good looking people, and you go. Wow. Look at them, but you can also develop other skills. Yes. Boy, Bryant said not very attractive. He looked right towards the four of us. It didn't even he just looked right directly at the more of. It was just that was just on purpose. That's all. That was completely. No danettes are gorgeous a handsome, Bryan. Cranston. Can you stick around? Yeah. Okay. We'll come back. I'm gonna talk about the movie when do you have to be on at Broadway on Broadway. What time do you get get there? An hour and a half before the show starts like five thirty. Okay. Oh, great. Now, he said now people are going to wait outside. Thanks, dan. I mean, did I say five thirty. No, no, no, I get there. Just two minutes before we go on. We'll come back with Bryan Cranston after this in the Dan Patrick show, college football, NFL football, the greatest time of the year. No more waiting. The time has arrived for you to get in all the action. Don't wait any longer to make your own line wages and head over the bed. Online dot AG to take them to the best bonuses in the business. You've promo code podcast want to receive a fifty percent. 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And then when you're not by by download RJ bells dream preview every week on podcast one sports net or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight news headlines right after this podcast. Clubs. I'm shop as we always do a little arcade. Fire and I'm gonna dedicate this to my sweater heading. It's damn good. Looking sweater. We go. Right. Cranston is with us. But I'm being told by your handlers that you have to leave immediately. Yeah. The upside with Bryan Cranston, Kevin Hart is in it. Nicole kidman? Good kisser. She is in the movie, Juliana, Margulis and Tate. Donovan are in the movie. Good movie. Yes. And. Well, can you give a synopsis here while I still have you before your handlers yet based on a true story about a wealthy, man? Who had a hang gliding accident and became a quadriplegic, and he's dealing with all the issues that that would naturally happen. And one day he's this man who comes into his life by accident. He hires as a personal attendant to to help him get through his day. And it's these terribly unqualified, but he liked him. He felt he was honest, and and approachable and this is Kevin harm. This is Kevin Hart's character. And they form a friendship. The very unlikely friendship, but it is true. And these two men are still friends to this day and see each other regularly, even though they live in different countries. And this film is a take off of that. And it's it's really beautiful funny. It's heartfelt. It's it's life, affirming and uplifting. And you make out with Nicole Kidman. I don't I wouldn't. It was hard to say that I make out with the goal Kidman. It would help sell tickets. They would have. No, no, she's a lovely lovely and Julian Marley's you'll and Margie lease. It's she's wonderful talented talented co-stars. Yeah. The upside in really good, and it's in theaters on on Friday and network if you get a chance to come to New York, go see network. You. It's an amazing performance, really dad and moved me to tears believe it or not just like you. So wait a minute the tears that you did earlier in the show. Yes. Those were fake. Yes. So how do I know the tears that you were moved to buy you don't know. My god. I I did when I saw you backstage when you made time for me after David Duke Coveney, you spent like fifteen minutes with him. And I went do Coveney. I mean, come on like, hey, like get him outta here. No. It was Dakota comedy Super Bowl trophy says to Coveney handed out. That's true. Right. That's would you check zero. He's talking to company member that episode. We did the X files on and that all those who are tears of jealousy. Yes. They were very much. So I am happy for you. Thank you. And thank you for coming. He's Ron you can leave now. Okay. No. You're handlers. Once you I have to actually. Visit you leave. This is a walk. This is this is it right there in that. In a bad sweater. Thank you, Brian. That's Bryan, Cranston. I think it's up for debate. Who's got worse Twitter on and how I don't know if it's force. I don't know if it's a foregone conclusion. Okay. All right. You guys be honest. Now, be honest on the what what sweater would you wear. Okay. Which if you had to wear one of these wet, okay? Which one would you? I love earth tones in tweet. I love his outfit. Okay. Seton o'connor? We're actually getting tweets from viewers of the show who wanna know where Brian got the sweater. So it's it's a big hit and the pants. Yeah. He's crushing. I liked. I liked the own samba. Mclovin. I don't work for Brian, Dan. I love your swing. Cranston all the way. Sokha. Hey, by the way, great talk on on sports, and football and. And it's always good. Your handlers said that you didn't wanna talk sports did not say they wanna talk stopping wanna talk the craft that. I'm most familiar with his acting. Go ram. I'm gonna start crying. If you don't. That's Bryan, Cranston. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Adam Schefter and Kyle Brandt (01-10-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Adam Schefter and Kyle Brandt (01-10-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log broadcasting from the Mercedes men came. Hey, got a better job. Then you never should've come here in the first place. He didn't did us. This is Dan Patrick final hour in this Thursday. Dan NS Dan Patrick show. Talk some football with Adam Schefter, still a couple of coaching vacancies in the NFL. We'll talk to him about that. And Cuyler Murray has until Monday to decide if he wants to go into the NFL draft. Also Kyle Brandt co host of the NFL network. He will join us coming up a little bit here. Mclovin. What's the poll question today? Okay. We still have up if you're Murray would you choose football or baseball. It's still about seventy percents a baseball coming up Saturday. It'll be on NBC. It's Andrew luck. And the colts taking on Patrick Mahomes in the chiefs football night in America live from Kansas City threes, June Saturday only on. NBC a couple of things that we've talked about we spend a lot of time talking about Cuyler Murray. And what's he going to do? He's not going to try to play both sports. I was wondering since the Oakland A's drafted him. What if the Oakland Raiders took him they have three first round picks? And then maybe could be a two sport star his agent Scott Boris said back in December calamari is going to play baseball. I just think that he got a taste of being a star a superstar Heisman Trophy winner. I don't want you go play baseball. And you're in single or double a baseball with that goes away quickly. You know, Tim tebow did it, but t you know, Tibo did it after a while. So if you said to Tibo right after college, hey, do you want to go play baseball or play in the NFL, even though he loves baseball. You know, do you wanna be toiling in the minor leagues? You wanna be doing that? When you're in your early twenties, not one year thirty years of age, but Tibo did it. I think is going to be rewarded in play for the Mets at some point this year. He'll be up in the major leagues. But kinda Murray there's no guarantee there's that. I mean the draft is littered with top picks who never made it out of the minor leagues. And with Cuyler Murray. If a if a team is going to commit a first round pick to you. You're going to get a chance to play in the NFL. Plus, you got a chance to make a lot of money as well. I know we talk about longevity Eileen, we talk about health, but. But I think Tyler Murray loves football more than he loves baseball. And he may look at it and say, maybe I'm better at baseball at least thought that until this past year and look at that success, you're the Heisman Trophy winner. And he'd be a first round pick. I believe in most drafts. All right. We'd like singing morning TV partners struck TV the audience ever. That's channel thirty nine. And the NBC sports network is well Twitter handle at DP show. And if you'd like to get in touch with program, you can't eight seven seven three DP show. I was watching some basketball last night. This will give you an idea of my viewing patterns. I was watching mystic pizza the movie which Julia Roberts. I love it, of course. And I noticed there's a a scene where they're having dinner. Julia Roberts goes over to her boyfriend's parents house, and I'm looking around the dinner table, and I see Matt Damon is in that movie that has to be mad Damon's first movie role. I'm guessing, but it's a very small part. But Matt Damon is is in mystic pizza. Yes. Mclovin. Did you cry? June. I felt lie. Come on. Of course. Everybody cries at mystic pizza. Why do you cry? Then someone die at the end. Well, why would you do that? You just said you watched it last night. But I I didn't cry actually I don't remember I visit pizzas famous steel magnolias and mystic pizza to the most famous crying movies. Nobody cries in mystic pizza. I gotta check this. I think that's a famous crime movie. I cried no at the very end. There's a big blending in everybody's happy. And everybody's together. I'll maybe Julia Roberts dies and steel magnolias. But she didn't she's lived happily ever after soon to some. Yeah. Mystic pizza, by the way. Julia Robertson, mystic pizza. Awesome gorgeous. And then I was watching of course, the Milwaukee Bucks play against James harden last night. Because obviously, that's what you do you'd watch mystic pizza, and then flip over and watch James harden and Jonas it Tacoma all the leading candidate now for the MVP, and I will get into this after we talked to Adam Schefter, the Milwaukee Bucks had a defensive style for James harden that I don't know if other teams start to pick up, but I would because even though harden went for what forty two last night. I thought the bucks did a great job on him. But I think the Greek freak is your leading candidate right now. For MVP. It's bringing Adam Schefter from the mothership automobile. ESPN's NFL live today at one thirty eastern part of both postseason NFL countdown shows on Saturday and Sunday this weekend for the divisional round. Is we welcome in the Michigan grad, Adam Schefter, Adam thanks for joining us. Do we have any updates on the jobs that are still open in the NFL, Dan, we'd got Miami? And we've got Cincinnati and neither team seems to be in any kind of rush who tells you that they're involved in some of the coaches involved in the playoffs still which is fine. Eric enemy still out. There is the chiefs offense coordinator, Brian floors is still out there as the patriots defensive coordinators act Taylor still out there as the Rams quarterbacks coach chamber all during the Rams pats a game coordinator. So there are still some coaches here in the playoffs that these teams have spoken to I looked at those would be obviously interesting names. Although I think they also are drawn to smother names for the name Todd monk in still in play. Or you've heard. The name Vance Joseph still play. So we'll see what these last two teams. But I will say this then we're six hirings in not one minority head coach it they were five minority coaches let go this off season. And it does not added one in its place. So far more surprising Kingsbury with the cardinals or leflore of the Packers. Floor. The Packers was more surprising because the Arizona Cardinals coveted cliff Kingsbury all along and the only question was whether he was going to be able to get out of his USC commitment, whatever commitment that was or wasn't. And once he was interviewing he was getting a job. He just that was the way it was gonna be. They were looking for somebody exactly like the guy and coach Clifton brisk now the floor when we discussed coaching candidates for whatever that's worth was not discussed this frontline Tanit, which doesn't mean he's not a big rig coach when the right guy for the Packers just that people weren't expecting to get it. And I know people are surprised with Kingsbury got one is a fired head coach of Texas Tech. But here's a guy that had gone out and work with Johnny Manziel and work with Packwood Mahomes and work with some really good quarterbacks. Whereas metaphor you just. Heroes all lot of conversation about again, I think it comes back to the Sean McVay affect everybody wants to kind of go show McVeigh's turned out to be in Los Angeles. And there are defensive coaches around the league that are taken notice about this that are disillusioned by this. But not with all worked out in LA. He's got a bright young bench of mine. Intelligent. And so to me it's a little bit more surprising that he got hard. But I understand the question. Why are we looking for the next Doug Peterson or Frank Reich? Why are we looking for the next Sean McVeigh? Well, maybe somebody like Vic Fangio is that it seems like teams are more hesitant to go. Get an experienced coach because everybody wants the next best thing and the flavor of the month and wherever's hot and sexy at that particular moment. And sometimes the best coaches are the most seasoned and experienced coaches guys haven't been given a chance guys have been waiting their life to do it. Don't Peterson's proven that Frank Reich is proven that. There's nothing wrong with the Andy Reid effect. Right. All the guys. Now. He's produced from history. I'm also curious with what's going on with Josh mcdaniels that he took his name out of the running or consideration for head coaching job at feels like when he didn't get the Packers job. All of a sudden he wasn't interested in seeking another head coaching job. Is that how this played out? Then there eight jobs. Okay. And we could break it down on a case by case basis. Right. But he's not going to Denver. Okay. Where they already fired him. Josh is going to take a job in Cincinnati or our Zona disrespect to franchises, but coaches that have been out there who've been selective aren't choosing those franchise when they've been selected as they've been okay? He's not going to Miami in the division. We're now that ordered the jets for that matter. So we're now down to the Green Bay Packers the Cleveland Browns. We didn't interview it and a missing one in this progression of coaching vacancies. But really the only job that he was in play for through his choices much as other teams. Choices was the Green Bay Packers. They hired somebody. So of course, you gotta the search right cash games is going to be a coach Josh mcdaniels is going to be a coach. Coach at some point in time. He just is. And it's not gonna be this year. So when he says, yeah, I'm not going to be taking money out of the running. I don't wanna behave. Well, tell me where there was going to be a potential match. There wasn't. Yeah. I was just surprised that he didn't get the Green Bay job with all that experience in leflore. Of came out of nowhere. What is the general? Consensus of Cuyler Murray's talent level, NFL wise, and what is future in the NFL is going to be or could be. This is going to be one of the great topics leading up to the NFL draft. Because you're talking about a guy who's listening that I believe five nine not visiting wrong with that. And we have a situation where a guy who has tremendous football ability who was the most productive high school football player ever to come out of the state of Texas. And that's a long list of players with a lot of great talent. You're talking about drew Brees and Andrew walk and Andy Dalton Nick foles. Nobody was better than calamari. And let me say this. I believe you own equivocally wolves football more than he loves baseball four years ago to now everything's show goes back who's over football. This year was a test drive to see if he can be great and football against Greek competition they proved him so but winning the Heisman that he can play with the best of them. And I think now that he's proven that he wants to take his talents to the next level. And I know. Have to get back to four point six six million dollars liaise, but he's gonna go into dressed tire than that and make more money than that. And if he turns out to be the quarterback that some Phil value interesting he will be was next contract. And the NFL quarterback is going to be twenty five million thirty nine thirty five million. So there's more money to be made in football and. Important and that I think he loves football and wants to be a football player. But you think he's going to go into the draft in and he'd be a first round pick. Yes. I do. Hey, I know that you got a busy day. We appreciate you squeeze in some time in force. Thank you. Adam. Thank you didn't happy new year you to Adam Schefter for the mothership though. Yeah. I get the feeling and I was told prior to having Cuyler Maria on I was told by somebody who said, look he loves football. He's really good at baseball. Because we weren't sure. How he good? He wasn't football. Because of what happened in his previous stop. He wasn't getting a chance to play lost his job, then he transfers to Oklahoma. He's behind Baker Mayfield. And then all of a sudden he had the coming out party. And then people go boy, he's really good as a guy who is going to play baseball for his career. And then I think he started to realize I'm really good. I have a chance to win the Heisman. I have a chance to play for national championship high like this feeling because baseball can be a lonely sport. There's one hundred sixty two games you have to go to the miners for a couple of years, and how many stars are there in the in baseball that you can household names. Very very fair. Very few four five in the NFL just about every starting quarterback is famous and I think Cuyler Murray loves that. And I think he got a taste of that and realizes, hey, I love football more than I do baseball. Why wouldn't I consider this? If I'm going to be a first round draft pick. And that's what happens his agents going to put out feelers say if he's available would you take him? You you check with these teams to say would you take him? You know, here's cliff Kingsbury who when he was at Texas Tech said look if I had the first round first pick. I'd take him. Well, he does have the first pick. Now is he going to take him? And then Adam Schefter said it's not implausible that Aaron Zona could trae Josh Rosen in draft color Murray. Number one overall. Kyla Murray was the ninth pick of the draft. I went back and look at the ninth pick of the draft of going back to two thousand five two of them. Never played a minute in the big leagues. Five of them made it to the majors briefly like a. A year less than a year less than two years five of them had solid careers where they played three or four or five or six years, but never made all star teams. There's one all star havi by as going back to two thousand five there was a nice pick of the draft who's making any real money and a superstar one out of ten. Yes. Mclovin. You know, one thing about if he went number nine and they knew he was still flirted with football to me. That's as well. They must have really seen something because that's nine will usually football players fall with third or fourth round. Like Russell and Winston Winston would have been a top ten pick. But they didn't draft him there. So maybe he's really like really legit baseball. Like you heard. He was really good. I've seen Ricky Henderson that comparison. Unbelievably fast, unbelievable power. But I, and I don't know what is riskier or there's more questions attached to trying to draft an eighteen year old baseball player, or you know, a twenty one year old football player quarterback in particular. You know, you're trying to say oh that guy. Can't miss is. Like, everybody loves Trevor Lawrence. I can't miss. We've had guys who did miss and Trevor Lawrence can miss Cuyler Murray. We've seen this on a big stage. We saw it for one year. Can he play in the NFL is a team going to commit to Cuyler Murray? Because that's what it's gonna come down to you have to commit your offense to Cuyler Murray. And if you're willing to do that, I think you're getting somebody very special. I've never bought into. How tall you are. I wanna know if you can play the position not look like you can play the position. Yeah. Mcclennan? You're not nervous about five eight. I know, you know, it's such an exception. If he the strangest number. One overall pick in the history of L, if I mean, maybe would it be weird that small I actually right? But you've been proven right time and time again every time you say that Baker Russell. So you're right. Yeah. Still seems weird. It's why when you know like sid Baker Mayfield is going to be the number one pick in the draft people because he's too short like can he play? That's that's the point. It's he oh, you know, he's he's not six five. So because you're six five you can play more than if you're six feet tall. It just doesn't make any sense. If you did that in basketball there are times when you look at somebody you go man that dude looks like he can play. And then you see the other guy. That's, you know, five nine in that he's the guy who's busting. You the whole hold game. I'm looking at the shortest quarterbacks drafted in the first three rounds since nineteen sixty seven. Russell wilson. Five eleven is the shortest Pat Sullivan and Pat win a Heisman Trophy at Auburn. He was six feet. Michael Vick six feet drew Brees six feet, Pat, white. He was six feet and Johnny Manziel was six feet. Let's see who else to Bob. Bob. Greasy. Six one Jim McMahon. Six one Cade McNall and six one Reverend Tueson Rex Grossman six one Baker Mayfield junior the third six one. So it's sort of a mixed bag in their own success at that height. But I would have no issues if you said to me Cutler Murray is my quarterback. I'd have no issues with them. I if I'm as as I wouldn't let them see that Pat Whitecliffe where he literally losses soul on a hit in the NFL. All right. When we come back. He's Kyle Bram NFL network. Good morning football. He will join us coming up eighteen after the hour. 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Bet online dot AG as bet online dot AG. The online sportsbook expert. Bryan, Cranston will join us on the program tomorrow. He's one of the co host of good morning football. But yet there's three of you four of you. So how can you be a co? I'm a quad host your. We say in two thousand nineteen twenty quite host. So counts. Could see I'm thrilled the V or this is some list of guests. You guys have today. Yeah. Kevin Hart was a lot of fun. Mike's you chefs gave us great. So don't screw it up. No pressure on your the greatest guests, you could possibly get Kevin Hart coach K a living deity. And then I make Peter Straker giggling. That's what I do. Glad to be here. This is fun. Kyle is one of the hosts for the NFL networks. Good morning football which airs Monday through Friday at seven AM eastern. This is one of the great days of your life. I'm guessing I'm very also are you? Well, I just watched Mr. pizza in the green room it's on. It's a tear Jerker rights story about a fishing town of a couple of gals a pizza shop, very emotional. Julia Roberts spectacular expect. I mean, it might even be peak Roberts people wanna point to the Pretty Woman, but I go predate mystic pizza. I think it's peak Roberts. I do. But you were in soap operas, were you ever you ever work with somebody that was that beautiful? Yeah. That's what we do. And I'm talking about. Talking about the men the women hands and soap operas are like nine. It's incredible. Yeah. I worked my father on the show. Victor curiosities was played by John Aniston, who's the real life father of Jennifer Aniston. So I always felt like we were like brother and sister in law in some way, never worked out that way never met her though, you never met her never once. And this was during pit era Aniston. So I had this whole plan that I'm going to befriend myself with John Aniston, he's gonna invite me over to thanksgiving. And I'll sit next to Pitt and Aniston will we're going to be a power Cup. Never have never even. I don't even think he liked me. I forgot my lines one time John fast. Now offset terrible, soap operas, a tough, man. No, they're not. Yes. They are out of memorizing of lines lot. Can you do that? Dan. Like, your your radio. Are you? Good at memorizing. Yeah. I've seen people die right there on because they can't remember their line about the love triangle, and the it's difficult. It's ages. Don't miss the two up or you'll screw up the whole storyline. It's taken six months. I've done that. Okay. What was the strangest? Storyline of the soap opera, how many days were how many years re and a half years Riina? Here's on days of our lives as relapse just got renewed with fifty fifth season. NBC at one point. I found myself line in a hospital bed. My character. Philip and I was sitting next to Heather Mills McCartney who's Paul McCartney's wife at the time, Heather Mills McCartney is an amputee my character had just become amputate. And we've commiserated about what it's like to lose a limb as I sat there in a hospital. Ben, I lost a limb mind you because I went overseas, and there was an landmines, and then I came back, and Dan, I'm not making this up. You can Google it after my character. Went through his came to terms of losing the limb he became a NASCAR driver. I'm not kidding Philip T-rex Maimon NASCAR with one leg. I don't even know if that's possible with what with the clutch in what I respect the storyline. I think it's motivational, and I played the hell out of it's, but no daytime EMMY and not making that up real story. But you did actually lose a leg for the role, which I thought you got to commit that's called committee. Yes, this is actually a prestigious right here. It's very cool. It's lifelike at this point. I'm like Richard Kimble is tasting. That's all I got. But I committed, but okay. At some point you'll go I I'm not going to act. Yeah. I'm going to go into sports. Yeah. Everybody leaves the soap opera at one point because they're going to be Matt Damon or they're going to be Denzel. And so was I three and a half years. I said I'm outta here. I'm gonna get my pilot, then I'm gonna do movies. And then couple of months later, I was broke and begging to be an infomercial. I was on one. I was an infomercial. Jose can Saco once for real real story about selling things the people at home that was the low point is I got to get out of Acton. I really was and thank God. And I got back into sports, which is like running into my old girlfriend. Okay. But you you decide you're going to be the producer for Jim Rome. Well, he decided, but I agree. Well, you decided you were going to go for that job one morning. I woke up about noon, I slept in my robots unemployed. Actor I grab my blackberry curve out of nowhere. There's an Email from Jim Rome who says I've seen this blog that you keep Ross Tucker. My college teammate who host the show front of your show college teammate, when my best friends was approached to produce Rome is that I've that I've seen your writing would you like to come and work on my show said, I don't know. It's not for me. But there's a guy there in California's his backgrounds a little weird. But you might like him roam brought me in we hit it off, and I became a producer. And then you decided you wanted to be on the air. Yeah. After about six or seven years of being behind the glass, as we said, then I started filling in as guest host, and it took six or seven years, and that would do that for a couple of years. And then then this stuff started happening is they're doing spots on f s one and things. And then I got an agent. And then the NFL now, we're called is crazy. I'm here no interest in acting again. Now, I was really bad at it. You know, I take it back. I was right as an actor. You know, what's really hard is the audition in really really hard going in there. And you see there's some godforsaken hellhole in the valley. And there's a camera. Try tripod sent up and it's not even the casting which the biggest movie you auditioned for all the big ones. I addition to be and it can Skywalker captain Kirk superman. I mean, they'd see thirty thousand people in the city to play those roles, but I did all of them. I I'm doing scenes with lowest land. I I walk in. You'll have stupid you feel walking in Dan, you try to take some seriously as an actor and you walk in and captain Kirk Mr. checkoffs at the phasers to this. I don't know even know any of that starts, I don't speak Star Trek. These guys look like that you guys speak Star Trek. Mclovin. Does. Right. So I had this to be captain Kirk in the role that went. Thank you. Yes. Prosper? Right. The one that went to Chris Chris pine? Yeah. I addition for that. And I did my as much as I could do with a Hora. And I thought we had chemistry. Everything they didn't see feel the same way. I never got the road the last one that straw that broke the camel's back is addition, they rebooting nightrider the old Hasselhoff show, and they were bringing it back, and it came back from a five seconds. But I did the scene. I was going to be the new Michael Knight and the scene in. The addition was with Hasselhoff comes back and you're standing over his grave, and he comes up behind you. And he's alive, and I can get this guy called back like three times. I thought there's going to be the one then get him. Then get it wasn't even close. I don't think I think I'll just like twelve more guys because I could see a little Hasselhoff in you. That's compliment. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Knight rider, Baywatch the guy drunk on the floor and the cheese. All those right. Every hof. I couldn't do that one. Well, enough, right. Remember that she's burger video that was nuts who cert list and everything like he got hassle. I could be that one for. The number one story on good morning football is what? I think I think it's right now it's eagles saints that eagles saints game this weekend because we're all caught in this prison in between. What is real? And what we see which is the saints. The saints are at home. They have way too many good players for we want to believe in something. We want to believe in false. We want to believe I mean, it sounds. It's almost like we want to believe in magic. We have shrine setup on good morning football, which we offer sacrificial mementos to Nick foles. And last the last thing we offer to the shrine last week was was oven mitts, Freddie, Mitchell. And sure enough they win because someone gets their mitts on a kick. And then we think the magic might be real. So there's no flash photography allowed. You have to believe there's a jacket required policy. We want to believe in magic. And we keep debating because some of us do some of us. Don't what also we were talking about this this morning. We wanna believe in Cuyler Murray playing football. Okay. Like we. That's we want great story to whether it's true or not we want to believe that because that's going to spice up to. Draft. I wanna believe he can play both. Then I mean Dionne and bow like, I was I cut my teeth on that as a sports. Yeah. Why can't we have that anymore? The money and the injury ready because they weren't quarterbacks. Yeah. In I think when your quarterback is not committed, you know, he's got to be committed year round. And I think when you would see that. And then if he didn't play well, then you say, well, you know, he's spending too much time on base with two for five for the royals. They should have been. We're gonna watching tape or something like that. It's such a buzzkill because I would love to see. But if you had him drafted by Oakland. He's already drafted by the as and you've got the raiders with three first-round draft picks. Couldn't you see a scenario where and their AAA team the as AAA changes in Vegas, so okay? By the time he gets the starting job. They would be in Vegas. Get to play baseball. I'm loving this. I mean, the poster with Bo with the shoulder pads and the bat like overhead at that. That was my I don't I loved the onto. And I wonder I wonder what role Gruden were plan that because if he's old school. I don't know where you come out. Then either comes out, and I can't appreciate a guy can do both. I remember guys to both or using my full commitment. I want you plan for the as I want you here. Twenty four seven it's a buzz kill. Yeah. And I think that that's a valid point. When you think of Gruden because he's the wildcard. And you're not sure if he it still feels like he's old school, even though you know modern times, and I think that's going to decide if he's successful. Not is. Can he adapt to today? It feels like Gruden is still back ten fifteen years ago. It does and from everything from the way he talks to the way he dresses and everything, and it's like, we're also the other the number one topic now is like we're sitting this this ridiculous crazy almost farcical coaching spree that we're going on. It's. I live. I live up in the suburbs up here. All right. And I have a five year old, son. And I'm just now entering this realm. Whereas parents the switchblades coming out, meaning they want the best for their kids. They want the personal coast. They want the private instructor. They want the specialist, and I feel like these young quarterbacks are the kids like Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield and all of them. Every one of these owners now says this is my private my, pride and joy, my son. I want to raise them up to be an all star. I have to get the special instructor. No matter what I have to pay. How to experience the is. Because half these instructors, I've talked to some of them out in the par there crackpots. They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know how to do a bad stance or anything, but their pedigrees somehow, and they wanna get paid. That's what I feel like it's going on. These owners are protecting their sons those quarterbacks. Well, it does feel like they've all come up in this system where you have the seven on sevens. And then the elite eight eleven you know, camps, go onto the manning camper. Alabama's can't you know, the fact that you know, clemson's quarterback went to Alabama's camp in lane. Kiffin told us on Monday. I saw him as an eighth grader. Yeah. So they're seeing these kids before they're even playing high school of the same thing about James Winston. I remember jaboomer when he was twelve and so they're hiring coaches who feel like they're twelve I like it. I think it's incredible. And the McVay things fascinating right now because Sean McVay they're planning against America's team. So I'm gonna say right now is America's coach getting everybody hired is getting everybody jobs. It's crazy like member we moved here a couple of summers ago, and I moved here in the prime of when that Pokemon go thing was going around and these imbeciles are running through central park chasing after cartoons. I feel like right now it's like a coachee mon- like everyone's just running after trying to catch them. All it gets a little. Coaches. We got the leflore thing, and it animates and every everyone's trying to get the McVeigh. But what's interesting is? If McVay loses this weekend knows it's like all right? So you can get me a job, and you're cool, and you got a beard and sexy, and but can you even win? We're all trying to copy McVeigh. No one wants to copy. Anthony Lynn should never wanna copy Bella chicken Peterson McVeigh's great. You lose this weekend. The bloom is off the rose. He hasn't won a playoff game you'd be onto both at home and two years ago. Adam gays was the high property, I remember, you gotta get Adam gauge, I love this. I love gays because he doesn't care that. I love him. He doesn't care. What you think? I watch these reality shows the new I watched the amazing race or so, but there's always one character winds up winning, and it's the same sound bite every single year of bachelor bathroom, and they always say, I didn't come here to make friends that person always wins. That's the strategy. Other people have friends for life case did not come here to make friends not with the media. And that with the quarterback, he does it his way, and I really liked that. He's ever wants to be like now, I don't know if he's any good. You can be a great coordinator. My problem is when you become a great coordinator, we all of a sudden say, well, he'd be you gotta make him head coach there's certain guys who are meant to be pitching coaches and not manager percent. Certain guys who were great all of Bella checks offense and defensive coordinators should have stayed offense have been defensive Corelli wise, rahmael Cornell, all those guys even Matt Patricia maybe Bill Ryan, I don't know. Yeah. I don't think Bill O'Brien's head coach near the colts, destroyed them. They just destroyed them Texans. There's some guys which just play within yourself. You know, respectfully somebody like Dirk cutter who just got let go in. Now, he's a Clinton is not a head coach. But a great coordinator. I love it as a coordinator. Now head coach you bring up a good point though that is gas one of those guys who who can't hit the turnaround twenty five foot jumper. But if you give them a perfect pass will do the layup. I don't know. I think I think as still hasn't. I like it. That's what he took the dolphins to the playoffs with Ryan San hose first year second year, he gets hurt. He's with Cutler. It was nonsense year. This your tattoo, helping up again, that's sixteen year was pretty awesome. But we're bringing in these guys because their quarterback whispers. That's it kitchens gets hired because Baker Mayfield, you know, proved to be great when he got out from under Hugh Jackson, you're bringing in cliff Kingsbury because the Josh Rosen now you're gonna bring an atom gays because his Sam darnold. Everybody's committing their team to one player. That's not. That's not the right approach to have you're bringing in a floor because he's an offensive guy. And he's gonna help Aaron Rodgers. Now Denver didn't do that. With Vic Fangio, they went the other way. Yeah. Ben and their quarterbacks need more help than any other team. Don't even if they have a quarterback, they don't want. It's a cool thing because you see the games last weekend. I think the highest point total was twenty four points. Yeah. Teams in the teens. There was a team that didn't get the ten, and I think this weekend is me the same thing. Everyone says the sense you're gonna put up fifty in the Colson Cheech and go back and forth. I don't think so. And if you look at these teams built around one player look at the colts. I know the colts are not sexy, and it's Indiana, and they're not. Fun and on and on and on. And we talk about them in our show more Cowboys more cobblers, I love the colts because they built the from inside out and their guards are good and their tackles are good. And I know that doesn't sell jerseys fat heads and stuff, but damn they will run you right over. I love that. And I think they're gonna win this weekend. But do you guys? And I know that there's it's formulaic. Yeah. If you watch the show, we skip Bayless watch. I take they will hit the Cowboys as often as possible when they're not even LeBron still the Braun. Yeah. And the cowboy as much as possible you being a football show. Are you told sun, let's work in the Cowboys, someway, somehow every single day? Absolutely not. No, no. No, no. And remember we started our first season was twenty sixteen which was a glorious season for the was that's Dakyns Zeke rookie jumping into the kettle everything. Now, not at all. I in fact, I think we take pride and hitting every single team. Like, I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's to our fault. Maybe we should start more with the Cowboys those shows that you mentioned they're successful. Yeah. They don't cut. But also, it's like I also think that those shows annoy. A lot of people it because this is too much Cowboys and LeBron, and it's it's this debate as an entertainer someone on TV. Do you want to have the highest rated show possible, which there are ways or do you want to have what you feel is the best show possible? I think we could probably have better ratings on our show. We talk more Cowboys. But I don't want to do that. I like to do what we do. I can't do it in that. Tell me about that. When I just I I think this this show evolves naturally we come in. And where you go. What what do we want to talk about not? Hey, let's talk about Jack Prescott is a better quarterback Jared Goff. Like, let's let's shoehorn something in here. Let's talk about Jerry Jones is two hundred and fifty million dollars young yet. And let's ties to a social issue in some way, just get some juice. But I even let's talk about LeBron good or bad. I just I that's not how I was brought up to do this. You do the story. That's in front of you. You do that right story at the right time. And look do we sacrifice ratings. I'm sure if we talked about the Cowboys and LeBron we would do better. I can't do that every day. I now, and I do applaud the fact that skip Bayless can somehow it's a talent show every day where you touch on those two topics and Stephen a Smith they're able to do that. I just can't do that. I can't either. Just the topic. Then you get to the next layer of what is the take my burn is. I wish I wanna say something original. Now, what happens is if you wanna say something original and stick out, you find yourself getting very extreme either extremely positive is the best player in the history of the world or you just destroyed people. It can be dangerous dangerous because you don't even mean it, but he just so motivated by saying something different. And I want to give you a compliment. I think you're one of the few people who can just talk sports without saying something completely ostentatious that you don't even mean. But dammit got six thousand retweets. I'll say it again tomorrow. It's it's an art right now. And we try to do it hard. But you can fall into the hot take trap because you wanna have a cool opinion. And you know, you believe it, I think you could maybe justify it. But then when you start to see those retweets and all that you start to believe a lot of things. It's a whole religion there on Twitter. It really is. Can't do it. I got okay here. Here's a hot take. What you got? I love this gives them if. Jason GARRETT'S coaching. I John this weekend. And I'm saying yes, or no, yeah. Now Jason Garrett extended his job last weekend. That was a big win as a big win for back you ever take. What we're doing? I think I think you undersold it. I think nevermind Garrett. I think Belgium goes for his job. You cannot lose that home to a team or seven zero against. I think listen Daniels waiting in the wing regime that the bit Brady playing for his job. Listen Brian wear. Throws a nice ball people sleep on Brian where they're expecting Brady. So I would think so. Yeah, I think Mahomes planned for his job to have you ever seen? Chad any of the thing whistles when it comes out of sleep on any. Now, we got we got something here. It was just about the changes that whoa. What a Patrick just say. This is what you guys need to do on. Good morning. Football is just have fake context will pass it back and use call it fake contacts and somebody dresses up as skip Bayless. Like Kay Adams, dress up is skip Bayless, and we'll call it worst take or maybe hot potato, and we'll just pass it back and forth. But you've just make up a hot take. Right. Just like they do might take on Cuyler Murray. I think he tried basketball. You know what I'm saying? I mean, there's there's more money longer life expectancy golf you can play. So you're eighty that baseball football and everybody's done. Okay. We got hot takes. This is simple. Thanks for stopping by. This is thrilled to be here. I have a lot of memories of listening to you. And watching you I'm really really appreciated to be here. Thank you costs school. Kyle Brandt NFL network. Good morning. Football quad host not why does not co host quad hosts. 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NFL Fantasy Football Week 12 Thanksgiving Week

The Gridiron Guide

53:00 min | 11 months ago

NFL Fantasy Football Week 12 Thanksgiving Week

"Welcome to the gridiron. God what's your fantasy what those eighty two do do to happy thanksgiving. Almost happy thanksgiving almos- yup. It's wednesday november twenty fifth. Tomorrow's thanksgiving thanksgiving is my favorite holiday of the year. You get great food. You get to hang out with family. You get to watch football. All day will traditionally get to watch football Tomorrow they fucked around and they postpone that thursday night game. But yeah hell. We'll talk about that when i was looking forward to that game. Oh yeah everybody was because the other two games are kind of a snooze fest. But i yeah for sure it is what it is still great day Looking forward to it so you know what's the show week. Twelve the official releasing it on wednesday due to the holiday Nobody wants to be gone. Crazy shut black friday shopping. Listen to extra day you don't while you're driving around the model listen to us check it out. We're fire. Were were high. You know what. 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That are still listening on that end in might have still followed on that end but so we're still posting both but We just got pushed through through a I heart radio and ooh yes. There's a new one now so nice. So yeah the objectively podcasts. You'll find us on their on. Spotify soundcloud not iheartradio for them stitcher. You'll also find the gridiron guide on all those platforms as well as soundcloud podcast. What else helped me pod beam right here. Listener notes You said stitcher already iheart Radio soon to be pandora and Can't think of the other one right now. On top of my head one more be on but yemen and also check out the the grenon guide dot com We got our waiver wire as on their healthy guys. Miss out Going to have some other fun articles. That i have in the hopper with some research on how bad the lions have drafting recently under the by quinn and matt patricia era. He's shows yeah. yeah for sure. So it's steaming garment. Yeah you'll be surprised. I mean. I'm i'm like halfway through that one and i'm working on a youtube video to coincide with it as well so that'd be our our first little youtube show for. That is just a live picture of a dumpster on fire. Pretty much since patricia. Game in my guys. Since coin came in i actually surprised. Yeah all right. So i think we covered all our bases for the intro. Yup always listen was live on pod being Right now we have a couple listeners. Of big sean and p. diddy prestone so here to. Oh snap big donor. I know oh there is so love to see it loved the live listeners Keep it up again. 'cause in there you can call in you. Can post questions talk to us. Sometimes it distracts us takes away from the show but we interaction so we love your questions. We love the interaction. Hit us up. Pardon the app. I guess i heard about it too. Man guess definitely app is a lot of pocket passer on it. A lot of well known podcasts. Around so yeah he just got a lot louder and book my bed to mike all right so now onto. Nfl news we briefly touched on it earlier. The pittsburgh baltimore was slated to go tomorrow night now rescheduled the sunday lot about our no baltimore. Due to all their covert cases in the organization a pittsburgh players not happy about it at all Fans not happy about it at all mean eight to not happy about it at all. definitely not bought. What can you do. So it's rescheduled sunday at one. Fifteen on nbc. Not something you see Too often but now we kept the rights of the game. And you know they're alive one fifteen on why they got to be so difficult in different one fifteen not one some bad news from last week. birkhead torn acl Har loss for the patriots. You know he's always at work horseback for them. Kinda does anything they asked him to do. tortoise acl so he is out for the rest of the year also potential rookie of the year candidate. Joe burrow tours. Acl mto destroyed his knee. It was not a pretty hip but unfortunately they're both out for the rest of the year. And you know potentially internet season so prayers for them. Hopefully they Get a speedy recovery and get back the field asep. Some good news. David montgomery clear concussion. Protocol expected to play They got the bears got packers. Sunday night They need him because as of right now. I still believe they have not named the starting quarterback. I know nick foles not practicing mitch. Trubisky trubisky did i. Yeah he did to bitch ski did practice. You know if i had to guess right now he would be starting foles. Hasn't been doing too good anyway. So it's a good thing of trubisky comes in but we'll keep it up. Keep an eye on that but montgomery regardless gets a heavy workload him doesn't do much with it but green bay's defense run. D is not that good at all. So look for montgomery have could a beginning austin ekeler. Becca practice. we don't know if he'll play this week but he's definitely closed so if he doesn't play this week he will be back next week. But the is a possibility chancellor. This week mccaffrey also begged practice in a limited fashion. He but the team does not expect them to play. He is doubtful teddy bridgewater questionable. They do expect him to play this week. Oh definitely sam. Darnold limited practice. He is expected to return for the jets. Not like it matters. Nobody starting darnold probably any jets players at this point on their team. Carter's been sucking. But hopefully you can turn around with darnold back. Because i think he did. He posted his best games with donald A couple of games of them so hopefully donald in equals crowder. More production Eagles news zach ertz could be back week twelve that'd be a big big boost to them He annoyed me play this year. He wasn't that good but still. He's a good plan for them. A great blocker from one of the best islands in the league so earth back could boost that the eagles team. They need all the help you can get as they play seattle monday night. Geo bernard concussion. I did not break. This one's day. That's new to me. I didn't know about that but We'll see what happens with that Look i status throughout the week and hopefully you can get back in there. 'cause now cincinnati is what makes steals. I'm guessing he's probably yet. I guess he's bracket placed him on. I are actually didn't they I didn't get the last week. I think did so. He'll be out three weeks. Yeah yeah they're starting brandon allen we also It three starts last year for denver. Denver started three games last year for them did not do forty six percent. Completion percentage right or five hundred yards three touchdowns in two picks in those two games. Do not start this guy defense. Even cheap Ooh away from cincinnati offense. Yeah for sure totally. We see what happens you know. Obviously t higgins tyler. Boyd are great. Players a. j. green hit or miss but stay away until we see what the hell's going on in cincinnati ohio. Starting mike glennon we twelve gournament. You still also mike. Glennon takes a start week. Twelve after joe josh jalen through four picks last week the pittsburgh so i think one and then uses career six percent. Completion percentage. I think glennon bodes well for dj charged. I might take charge and my daily Yeah that might not be a bad idea. I definitely think glen. Bill is better for For chart than lot. Lynn obviously lends not that good otherwise he would have been the dr starter from day one even though his rookie. Men's shoe has been good so they're definitely going to be looking for a quarterback in this year's draft for sure yeah a lot and had that one somebody touchdown pass to charle outside of that. Knuckle yeah after that. He's been terrible so Houston texans randall. Cobb was put on r with a toe injury. Can still squad is out. We twelve so. Kiki kuti will be wide receiver number three for them. That could be a nice cheap option in the potential steel india. Fussell look up for that. Yup nice cheap option. Who does houston god this week. Lions do lions. There we go. They play thursday so as of right now. Draftkings has been shitty. They're not letting you compete in a lineup. That has all sixteen games unless you do the fifteen. Yeah yeah they're not include the lions game for some reason but the thursday games Which i'm actually in one of the lineups You know now. They made a lot easier on the slate. Just having two games choose from so so. We'll see but kiki number three white out for houston sweet. Still expected shawn watson. The airedale Shitty lines definitely Kenny golladay amendola. We'll be out for the lions swift as limited He starts to clear concussion protocol if he's practicing expecting him to already be clear and there is not telling us or to be cleared by thursday so for news about swift fairly clear a game time decision yep so there we go Adam feeling hit a false positive test so he is expected to play as of right. Now keep your eye on that and see what the hell goes on. Because he is regarded northbound on this chip. Julio gametime decision hammy you've seen them play through this injury earlier in the year. Expect to play a big role he'll play. We don't know but the expect. Julio you know like. I said he's industry but i expect them to play some new come up. Girly did not practice once. They were a knee injury. We know. Girlie has a problem with arthritis in his knees. So i mean he has a good match versus the raiders but did not practice so keep an eye on status a pending later on the week Salvin amer on the dolphins did not practice wednesday. Keep an eye on that to see who the dolphin you. I don't know who if you wanna running back on the team but a yes there often just kind of i mean they do play the jets. So you definitely probably won't players on team but can't trust to a who knows you know to him. Yeah let's say. I don't know if you have to. Your injury. Knows when he just popped up on With a thumb injury left left hand. Yeah he'll be good. But i didn't have that we'll see but i do it. Myles gaskin is practising wednesday. So if he's activated look for him they have a huge day and dfs formats. Yep so gaskin good news. There are more good news. Tevin coleman deebo samuel raheem mostert richard sherman report return to forty nine and practice in the limited fashion They are all questionable along jerick mckinnon. They need all the help we can get so they'll be huge if some of those players turns definitely Because ebola they're still in the playoff hunt. You know teams make the playoffs. So y'all so look out for that. Chris carson questionable officially but he had a full practice. Tuesday expect him to play and take over that backfield again. How was early in the year His return. You can drop pretty much. De-details travis homer in all formats. Maybe just keep hide on the bench after he did have a good game last week. Lastly terry maclaurin questionable didn't look too much into the injury. But i do expect the same here who yeah. That's the news. The news is longer and longer as we go on. I know. I don't know if i talk more. What but that long. But now moment you guys have all been waiting for D f s pair. Ix so aaron. I'm not gonna go too much into thursday players just because i don't know how fan was doing draftkings now. His fifteen game slate with washington dallas. A does not have houston detroit. I'm not going to go too much. I might have some players for you in those games but You know we'll let him rip so right. Yeah so let me start. Enough quarterback This guy has nineteen sound passing touchdowns in the year three picks pretty pretty good year so far dare cargo up against atlanta. Obviously we saw takes him hill. Put up a top five huby performance against him albeit with some rushing totals but i expect David carr to Finish in the top ten in this week for fifty. Seven hundred bucks gonna get atlanta's goodbye. Derek carr derek carr david. Okay dare car. David cars is brother. Well i'll just pick up that. Their car was one of mine. Love percent landon this week. Where said seven hundred bucks last. Two weeks on atlanta's Tatum hill andrew lock to put up twenty four and thirty points respectively. The that's those are two not good quarterbacks. And i put far above them are. They've lands differences. Lot at least do who a lot at least eighteen fantasy points every game besides teddy bridgewater this year. So look for card item up. Yeah okay so we guard. You have another quarterback yup. I got carson wentz louisiana of fifty six hundred bucks monday night. Yeah last week he only had fourteen points He hasn't gone over fourteen points. The last three games five games before that he never went below nineteen point so At some point this roller coaster you know is going to go start going up. A after these last three games it's been going down down down so given carson wentz against seattle defense allows a lot of passing yards mainly because of the game. Follow the games. They get up on their opponents. They score a lot so their team. The opposing team but look for carson wentz. I think they have a pretty pretty big game. But i will take their car over once for one hundred bucks a good options there. All right Big fan of carson anymore. I can i fell off that Hype train i mean. I'm the same guy who told you to take ingram for ninety so take with a grain of salt. Which is the you know him. Yeah gotcha all right. quarterback Have a jury says. I have a love affair with them. But on two hundred bucks Give me just justin herbert the rookie of the year Going up against buffalo aspect is going to be a shootout Buffalo's defense is not That good and i. I expect the another top ten performance from justin hardware this week He's like i said his his lowest game this year. has only been nineteen points. Yeah nineteen points so Performing really well and only for seventy two hundred bucks. He should be a lot higher for how he's performing but so give him for this this week. Seventeen hundred bucks right. I like it You know if. I'm spending that much on a quarterback. One i guess he has been top tier all year. Yeah you you're spending that much like mahomes or russell wilson or something like that. You'd be as a wrestler than seventy five hundred bucks Mahomes mahomes eight grand the type of quarterback this week at eighty two hundred man. I could save grand in and still get those top points because her we still get some. Some russian tells us he's not a run first. Qb or anything like that. He hasn't looked around but he still gets totals. But i see what you're saying but you just downplaying. Iran is okay. Now sorry i love you. Whatever running back you only go first guy. Oh man he jumped on that you know. Give me a josh jacobs. This week so i think it's the first time i said josh jacobs atlanta's defense is not that good So i might as well just Pair up the vegas offense with The to test the bottom out there. Seven hundred bucks for josh jacobs He's been pretty consistent on the past three weeks of obviously been double digits but against denver. He had his biggest week or second biggest week of the year. Thirty two points with multiple touchdowns but he's sort of textile in the past three games Straight so he's on a mesa streak right now psyche ryan. Yeah i was gonna put him on. But just the way that Atlanta kind of locked up the saints warning bags last week. Outside tastes hill I changed my mind on that. I wouldn't be lock them up commercial. Had i think kamara had ten carries for forty. Two yards is not terrible and i think murray still had a good game too but they are. I think they rushed for one hundred forty yards. I wanna say yeah. Let's i mean come on come on thunder for under fifty yards. I think so yeah. Yeah yeah 'cause. I don't wanna talk about the saints offense right now. 'cause have kamara and is very disappointing. What is looking like for right. Now to breathe back. But i I'll touch real quick couple of thursday guys going thursday night Excuse me that beer. That red stripe come back up D andre swift sixty five hundred bucks for houston other less than the league versus running back in fantasy of the last five games or longer in average of twenty nine points per game to running back. That's now that's the combine backfield so they have been getting blown up by the running back so look for the big game as long as he clears. Concussion protocol six. Five hundred bucks another guy. I love antonio gibson six grand vs dallas on believe he scored a td in four straight nov. Three straight and for the last five. Yeah data by four straight right now. You're right he's been doing real good Washington football team. They've been competitive in three of those four games and actually won the fourth one so Like antonio gibson alah against six versus sales. Yes i was up. Put them in there But getting i have like four running backs down. 'cause ireland every week you got to be prepared for someone Right in speaking of a run amax has been hotman wayne. Gallon gallon junior. The clinton gone what i say. Gallon okay yeah. Government thing about this. He's had five touchdowns the past four games that he's played Cincinnati's defense Is the giants to win that game. obviously Burn amazon echo. Qb so five thousand bucks going up against he's defense You gimme gaughman. I like that. Another guy like That's a steal of oklahoma product and this is obviously geo bernard does not play Give me little ma. J p ryan game versus the giants four grand. You can get a starting running back four grand. I will take it. Granted bringing down as the starting quarterback if they keep a close in the first half i think some adriano muster up some yards potentially touchdown so four grant starting running back on it now bet I actually speak to play Yeah so i think they're going to go with one of those. Obviously that the two backs at they have their so they got some margin. They also got a rookie trayvon williams. Who hasn't played a snap. I don't think this year some came in and played thirty over thirty snaps last week. So yeah i think he's definitely the guy if he does doesn't necessarily your ready with the receiver you want or you know still got two more running backs all right go ahead. Sanders versus seahawks. Sixty six hundred bucks. Is it something touches in or at least seventeen touches in both games since returning from injury i think for philly have a chance to guys have big games. Obviously will decides went miles. Sanders and adele scattered so i think sanders definitely will as long as they give them the rock. I think he will do work in the receiving game as well and a real good fancy game all right on top. You didn't say this guy. I'm a jump in really quick James white forty five hundred bucks. One of our waiver wire pickups. This week i was with andrew to rex burkhead New england gets arizona. They're going to have to keep up. Arizona's i don't expect Harris to being a game for him so Gave me james. Why they're passing down back for forty five hundred bucks. Hey we gotta lotta steals for this week. So i like those guys gaughman. James late for my i thought process. Let's see nice. No guy like obviously know. We mentioned earlier on the injury report if he does play a good game. Todd gurley versus the raiders off. Fifty five hundred bucks casey. Let them up on the ground last week. I think todd got locked up last week for saints. I think girly could have a assad week if he does play if he doesn't play. You better be all over brian hill. Because he'll be the feature back and he'll don't know how much he has but he won't be a lot and I think he'd be a great play. Or there's starting running back is for atlanta running. Yeah especially four grand. He's on the four grand. I was waiting for you to finish. But i wrote them down as well. I wanna go for too many low end players but definitely if if it's Shell net girly isn't gonna play. Definitely i slide in braille hill. Yeah so none of us name. You know devil and cook alvin. Kamara will maybe see if they make an appearance later on in the must own all right white outsmart who yet all right so Yeah that's where robert woods jurors fifty eight hundred bucks Going up against san francisco I kind of expect ever says to put up a good fight in this game. So i expect the rams to keep throwing the football. Rams could not could not run the ball against tampa bay last week so it resulted in a lot of pass attempts. I think Woods and cut both. Had you know twenty five hundred plus. It was just crazy in a their their run after run after the catch machine. So that's a lot of short throws in this game fifty hundred bucks for robert woods Coming off a monster game The gaming a seattle kinda does scare me a little bit. But i think that He can kind of keep up that trend of of getting some double-digit targets. If they they can't run the football again never often pretty inconsistent on they home on the road. All the rams are at home okay. It doesn't matter we go. They were on the road last week but still that team is different on the road. We'll see they're just kind of inconsistent for me so you don't know who's gonna produce a week to week basis. Yeah so i like Still not getting love at all from draftkings damir bird white up for the patriots. Forty one hundred bucks are they play arizona. They traded you know the patriots traded for him. Who had them. I think The dolphins not carolina had him somebody in the division division trade. I want to say dolphins. Adam but three games in new england. Ed seven targets last game. Put up twenty nine point zero targets whereas baltimore the week before and that kind kinda shit show sunday night game with a lot of rain and snow and the nine targets. The first game with the with the team so securing eleven of sixteen target. I think demure bird is you know he's a good good wideout. I think him and cam definitely have some chemistry. I think he was. You told me that he did play with came new and carolina. Yeah they're on the same. So yep so definitely has chemistry. I like the mirrored a lot. And like i said only forty one hundred bucks. I think he was thirty. Five hundred last week isolated him last minute in the produce so running forty one hundred bucks. I like him. Yeah okay How about this. I know you like sterling shepherd. He's i was listening Questionable right now but fifty one hundred bucks going to begin cincy He's he's been he's been kind of kind of on a roll since coming back from from injury. Seventeen fifteen eleven and ten. I was the last. Two games weren't crazy. But i was against in philly. Who believe it or not has really a pass. Even sodas washington so that they have to pass defenses Yes we'll give me him fifty one hundred bucks against cincy You know why not especially if he plays if he doesn't play. I'm sorry can't blame play. Questionable everley yeah. I mean he's he's what is he. He recommends In bubble wrap to the game. he's either questionable or like there's no between won't plays he's one more concussion away from retiring to so. Oh yeah yup. And he's dangerous favorite target so often a lot different with shepherd disarm receiver. I can get one hundred bucks. I'll take it yup guy. I like He's been on a roll as well Also plays a lot. Dj more versus the vikings sixty two hundred bucks. He's been high eighteen targets the last two weeks he had eleven last week planned with. Pj walker seven the week before. Minnesota's along with the third. Most points wideout i think. Dd more keeps it going off regardless of type Bridgewater expected play or pj walker star so dj more. Yeah these moore's Putting this our mood on my fantasy week Robby anderson and he hasn't been producing like moorehead's past two weeks so About calvin really guy just traded for my fantasy league seventy one hundred bucks. I kind of expect. Julio the play within get hurt again like he like he did last week So yes i mean one hundred bucks his first game back. He put up a nice fourteen point Performance against new orleans. Obviously i'm new orleans. Seal is one of the premier defenses in the league. So gorgets vegas you compare him with matt ryan if you want to plan but you know. We didn't mention matt ryan That's another corey can play But yeah gimme. I'm really this week. S vega swiss cheese defense. Yeah i like that. I think slaughtermen but vegas vegas defense only plays good against kansas city for some reason. Yeah i looked at that too. Yeah they look decent some games but yeah then they get blown out others so Fifty eight hundred bucks. Gimme christian kirk versus the patriots Stefan gilmore will be locked. Lock in Locking onto deandre hopkins. So i think that opens up christian kirk takes pictures best player lock on the one player so given christian kirk i think arizona's gonna air it out a lot and i think crew will begin. Yeah i i like chris. I was a high high high hopes for him earlier in the year hopkins is kind of taking office but kirk has been surprisingly good every now and then got anymore receivers. You know. All right tight ends Actually have to this week for you. Guys i have. I know that. I you might name let me that your first name your guy only one name one. Name your cheaper option. How about that. Define cheap option because all the titans are pretty much been crappy this year expensive damage so okay all right. Well evan ingram your oh that's first time of your name. Yeah has obviously the last time we saw play against philli. Only put up a nice three points but the three games before that ten twelve and fifteen since against defense Forty five hundred bucks for ingram. I felt this is the time for daniel jones. An office to figure it out. They've taken the whole offense. I haven't seen the whole. I didn't think daniel jones. I just yeah and shepherds. Yeah i mean. Cincinnati is not a good defense so sure Might as well just get points. Why you can't load up on the premium positions where you can't sell. Yeah and i mean the took him last week after that are two weeks ago now After we ten. I'm not taking this guy the rest of the year Thought everything was trending up twenty nine targets in those three games then. He goes on gets three targets for philly in a game where they were all pretty much the whole game. So didn't they win the game right. Yeah they wanna ingram. But i'm not taking him anymore this year. I'm not pulling any hot takes on him anymore. So he's lost my faith and like i said it lasted until probably week nine. Are we time to shoot l. reflect. I'm done with w ingram. Let me get. You mentioned the the quarterback and running back for the raiders. Is dan waller percent. Lana six grand. All atlanta's allowed some big big games to the tight end this year so wallers for his first first time this year. Trying to back to back games with a touchdown. So i think we'll all comes through big for the rate us. Actually my Am allowed again. Sorry nobody that was. Actually my other tight end waller. 'cause i can paramount with Car jacobs you know. Because if they ain't ends up being a shootout you want to have the premium players on that on the raiders team and raise office has been pretty good lately so the the wide receivers have been kind of down between alkali or hunter renfrow or new rug. So when i go home when i go waller who the biggest martha feed on that dolphins. Well besides jacobs is receiving your your defense team. Every every week we end up going towards the cheapest defense. Oh i'm gonna give you kind of defense Godless -fensive we're not really thirty. Two hundred bucks go with the giants defense. You're actually wanted a better defenses. Nfl alien which is crazy to think about. Because i can barely name three of their players on their defense besides peppers. Yeah i again. I'm drawing a blank here. Yeah there it is playable blake martinez outside linebacker. There always attack attack was tina's and then Yeah i say. I'm not gonna name any players author game but Less is philly only put up a knife four points in daily but the have three multiple multiple Double digit games washington twice and then dallas so getting since he Brennan alan the fresh off the off the pine in a they also have had multiple saxon every game this year. So you gave me the giants defense. I like that. I know you not going to like mine. No probably some. But i'm gonna name. Gimme the buffalo bills definitely. Don't up at home versus the chargers teams from the west bank. East coast trip usually. Don't fare well Look at the last four games for the bills. Defense they got. Let me count over sixteen. Six in those four games Verse arizona six point seattle twelve points though. They played good teams. And they've done you know. Put up numbers although they've allowed points but thirty defensive numbers. Yeah but still you know eighteen points over the last two games allow on sixty over sixty points so that bills defense. Alternatively the chargers have given up ten points you know they let the jet stephen score ten points last week and miami's defense who actually is pretty. Solid scored seven points. Last two games so Give me the bills you know. Nice cheap option. Twenty seven hundred bucks. But i do think coming off the bye week. I think they will be very successful. Researchers all right all right. I guess you put it that way. I i can't. I can't hate on people at that way. own player. Gimme the hot hand of dalvin cook george ninety five hundred dollars be hearing about in this segment. Yeah i mean. I've saved money ever else but i mean just as a player He i mean he could off. I mean you can't really say cooled off equal offering in chicago only fifteen points within a nice between that point performance against dallas. I'll be an losing effort but the two weeks before they fifty one forty two. You know you can't. You can't shy away from point totals. Division fees carolina's defenses run defenses negative so even held the lowly lions to pedestrian number lions. So he's touch on every game is played besides versus the bears. Yeah thirteen touchdowns. i think. That's the league. I think as we gotta be. That's a sit down at this point. Yeah i think. I'm gonna test down. Because i think kamara was close to them and camara got shut out last week so no no come on. He has eight thousand a year. So all right yup and broke for onto this muslim player. Just got just got news zach. Ertz looks like he will suit up this week for. The eagles saw just bolsters that a wants pick. I said earlier. Eagles look to be. I think we're going to be fully healthy. Either will not offensive line but all their offensive weapons so quick news versus available maybe scooping up if he can go back to that production where he's been top five tight fiscal year so all right must own player this week. Give me nick chubb for the are for the browns playing. The jags think trump's going to have a huge game two games since returning from the ira. He's got thirty nine. Russia's two hundred forty yards and a touchdown. Jags are v wordsworth running back. I think trump will get you know over twenty years. I think he will have a monster gamers this week. Jaguars team yeah. I don't mind. I don't mind that at all nick. Chubb kimbler it. Him him or kareem hunt the brown sock baker socks. They know if they wanna win. They gotta get trump the rocking back back hundred games. I think trump will surpass that again right on that all right so now let's look set it up trivia so entered the trivia last week. It was a huge hit. Our fans loved it. So we brought it back in We're going to build it in now. So yup definitely if you listen to some party being start thinking about questions firearm off in the chat call in When you get your time you know we'll call on you but trivia so and you know if you're in the cia also gusts a play along with this trivia. So i kinda know. Put a combo question. So tomorrow's thanksgiving it's been tradition. Have thanksgiving football games for years. I don't know how long a long time long been alive so it's good. It's a nice little four piece question or visa. Yeah berman pretty much just Who who has the most passing touchdowns in single game on thanksgiving resumes passing yards in a single game receiving yards in rushing yards. Okay so start off with passing touchdowns pay manning noise expressing touching thousand four lions yup There's more bob. Greasy in nineteen seventy seven was against dallas. Too much. i passing yards. Oh that's paid man in the nfl like nope. No okay wait. Wait wait wait. Wait ninety nine. These late nineties late nineties leader okay. Late nineties definitely wasn't trae human because he was retired. Run a concussion who give me the team. That was against the though okay. quarterback obviously peasants. Ooh brett farve. Ooh sawed gas but no you actually had it. Troy aikman geez man. Nineteen ninety eight had four hundred fifty five yards. Passing is crazy. Most recently in two thousand sixteen. Can you name the guy who had four hundred forty nine yards two thousand sixteen. Do you not me man okay. Two thousand sixteen. He's he's a foreigner yards. Four hundred forty nine second most second. Moss Tom brady played against the lions so had to tom. Brady two thousand and sixteen nope incorrect. Your boy michigan state product. Ochre cousins kirk cousins plan for the washington at that point redskins before nine yards. So all right. Let's to donald to go now receiving yards and back in two thousand twelve. Two thousand dollars. Verse don't ask. Cabbage is not a bad guess. But no okay hold on one hundred. Eighty eight receiving yards dallas player. Then no mench. We mentioned who. The quarterback was early on in the show. We did when we were talking about the quarterbacks for i o or julio now no no no no no no no no. We miss the quarterback who is this core because the tired but he's tires playing in the league. Oh andre johnson. Yep there you go hundred yards in two thousand twelve for the houston texans. I got rushing yards. Two hundred seventy three rushing yards in a single room then so rushing yards rushing yards. Yeah i'll tell you. That was up three. Oh oh you told me this. Now that was touchdowns touchdowns you taught me emmett. Smith no not bad talking. Before then the seventies roof that billy sims no that was before to seventy s who was he played for the bill o. Oj yup on james simpson. Two hundred seventy three yards in nineteen seventy six against two mayans. Yup so that's are forced four-pack. I was hoping there are a lot more recent performances. Andre johnson and kirk cousins and peyton manning. Were all know the twenty century which is good old records berry sanders head. The most over hunting a four hundred thirty plus yard games a good stat glut of crazy static of those four. You did solid you solve so nice. I appreciate a required real quick. Do you know about that. The the controversy of tastes hill the past week. All man. that's so so. I have screen shots that were posted up on On the face or not the The website with a nice little quick article to let people see that and have some fun at these babies on their. You've got a quarterback at getting. Yeah yeah a lot of in so yeah. It's dirty move. But that's just outlaw. Like yahoo did so. Cbs too but cbs sucks. Espn also works. He said they wouldn't do it because he got named the starter on thursday. So they weren't gonna do it but now they did. It took it out all right all right. Nfl picks Aaron gained the game. I'll me last week. So it takes the lead by one game. I'll at snaps a four week in a row comeback by me. Yeah the nip. It in the bud man had listened to let you know who's boss you know it'll happen once in a while so All right so. I will get started town. What do at detroit. Gimme the houston texans. Yeah gimme houston As well because i'm hoping for the lions to lose I am one of those lions fans right now at the moment is hoping for to lose every interested away and somehow get a to pick all right Was this would be a classic lines love last week when they're supposed to win with supposed to lose anyways go on. Yeah exactly. that's that's exactly what could happen against dallas Gimme dallas actually all right You know dallas did play good last week ought to washington. Alex smith bounceback. So vegas at the falcons who close game falcons are banged. Up giving the raiders. Yeah gimme rate is too because I don't think happens. Good chargers were fully healthy. I would go falcons but yeah for sure for sure charges that buffalo. I know georgia's thing. I'm taking charges. But gimme buffalo. No you're not stupid. We'll both think buffalo giants bengals horrible taking here the g. You gotta take the giants. No question. there Tennessee and indian a indianapolis. Gimme tennessee dammit. Let's hope it would be different there earlier in the year. Offtake tennessee to win this game as well carolina minnesota minnesota ted. A bad loss have to wear a couple of a row. I think vikings. Yeah all right. We're on the same page again Also i was thinking you're gonna take care lengthy. Let him with that. But yeah gimme minnesota New england against arizona. I think new orleans on a on a tailspin. We'll do take who who do. Just stay for the minnesota against carolina no arizona. Doing i've been taking the yet. Oh i didn't know what the hell he just said. Oh no no. I said william has been on a tailspin. So the I'm temping to take new england. Close one but gimme zona arizona solid. They have some bad games also lines earlier in the year but this is a classic game where they probably will lose but also zone miami jets. Easy peasy lemon squeezy game. The dolphins have to take the dolphins Because i think the jesse on sixteen cleveland jacksonville. Give me. i'm half to jacksonville here. I was thinking. Just just refund. Give me jacksonville all right. I'm for sure. Make up a game on either cleveland. We'll be tired because Dallas is going to be washington. Cleveland jacksonville a baltimore. Pittsburgh is game. Everybody wanted to see tomorrow night. We're not gonna see tomorrow night. So baltimore is gonna be shorthanded lead players on the covert list. But give me the ravens upset pittsburgh. I came here. Come on lamar. Like what the fuck are you doing. Lamar's good they. I know the titans. Titans lee laid the blueprint for the rest of of the league in that playoff game. So gimme pittsburgh in scripture. I'm thinking pittsburgh. I've forgot good fit in baltimore. We'll get to go in period. Gimme baltimore ari. Nice fucking expert. Baltimore ravens go. Lamar clean denver new New orleans me new orleans tasting hill is hot in the defense drew. Lock is terrible. Yep take him home. Close on taylor. You wanna take him Denver's run the though. Yeah this is good i'll take the saints. I do want to take him in. Not about me. Rams niners in los angeles give me the rams easy to call me rams Kansas city at tampa bay failed to mention this. Tom brady this year after every bag. Game that he's had has had a masha game. The next game that being said kansas city is my super bowl. pick. Gimme kansas city. Yup me to. I'd say tampa bay. I i hate to same f- tampa bay f. Tom brady escuela. Steve bears at packers. Maybe email would. It is green and yellow green and yellow. Go go so we've only two games differently so far three ethic baltimore baltimore all right chicago and upset all right Seattle philly Yeah give me. Seattle phillies not good. Wanted to take philly bad but I didn't so give me seahawks as well. Yep all right last segment heartaches all right so My take last week was Take some hilltops. Five should've stuck on guns there. And you hit the You also had rutgers outside. The top. Ten did neither did not hit that. It's hard to hear. That's why that's why. I've just been toning it back to one. Every time i throw out there. I miss them both. I can't even hit one. I said kim balaj get one hundred. Twenty five yards and a touchdown last week. He only got seventy one yards but he did get fourteen. Fancy points Still expected a monster. Game remains to over one thing. I'm for my last eight or something worthy qualifies hot. Take anymore though. I mean these are getting me kind of have to do. I had a season high take of just sixteen for the jets. So i think i'm super looking pretty good on that Yeah gimme I'm i'm gonna say this. This'll be a hatay 'cause. I thought at that tom. Brady's had about back game every time. he's had a terrible one. So i think you'll finish outside the top ten end this week. I think kansas city's defense Knows what to do against tom. Brady kinda that same format that the rams had obviously they don't have aaron donald but chris jones is pretty damn good so all right One of my hat takes. Yeah that's right. I said one of them. I'm spitting to at you guys. This all he turned into after that this. What of my to nick. Chubb goes over one hundred fifty anti touch on this week. A monster gamers subjects. He hasn't he he's been he's input he The one we came out of bounds on one of them to the game. But i don't know if he would probably maybe had a game. But i mean he definitely would have. I should say a actual monster game watcher irish second because only had one this week all right my second one demeer bird back to back. One hundred yard receiving games for the patriots. I know you haven't heard that in awhile. Patriots while again hundred yards but the bird will do a twice in a row this week. You have to do this week is gonna be down. So we'll see. I like that forty one hundred bucks off in steel. Everybody listen aside you song. Because he already the marv forty one hundred bucks take him. I big sean. Todd take Michael pittman over one hundred yards this week. It looks like so Being michael junior junior on cold. So did the the packers this week still mad at him. But you know we'll see. I'm excited to tell you i tried to let you know that the packers lose that game. I mean flounder. Wanna talk about. It was ahead a chance. They blew it. The colts tried to let him back in tried to blow it literally. Coach seven hold on penalties battle on play are the best online the week. Look can i say. They seventh straight penalties crazy. All right is the ones that before thanksgiving. Y'all biggest drink. The go have a couple of beers as long as over the legal drinking age of twenty one and always remember. Don't drink and drive. Wondered on that happy thanksgiving. Y'all good luck this week. He's like separate one. Then named sean yup there we go all right peace out.

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Love Looking Nice in Packers Camp

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Love Looking Nice in Packers Camp

"The era rogers does not want to return to the green bay. Packers never run about the draft. Pick jordan's great kid. This is about jordan love. This isn't about twenty twenty. Tuesday is here and there was no sign of aaron rodgers. Needs every rep. You can get right now. You can learn something from both the good and the bad and it didn't tell all that well in fact it was probably the least accurate day that we've seen from law and this is a five hundred team if looks is good which we don't know and the passes don't even know what a time to be jordan. Love fresher mounting daily with real possibility. That loves starts game. One of the twenty twenty one season for the packers against the saints. You're looking at love their back on the field camp today and a couple of minutes details on how he looked. Today i love spoke at the media for the first time since last august. He was asked if he's ready to go day. One here's what he said. One hundred percent Obviously this is a time where. I'm getting a lot of extremely valuable reps that you know. I might not have been getting in a normal circumstance. So non. Just i'm gonna take it day by day and But yeah that's that's what i'm here for. I'm i was draft here to play quarterback so I'll definitely be ready week. One adam schefter dinner lost here for the hour. Tim hasselbeck moments away as well. Adam we start with you. How his love viewed within the organization at this point quote laura. He had a great day today. If you read. The accounts from rob demovsky are packers. Be writer jordan. Love lit up at practice today. And i think here's the issue you're going to see everything that jordan love. Does it practice documented throughout the summer or until aaron rodgers does or does it get back their every move he makes will be incredibly scrutinized. We're gonna be asking me on a daily basis. How realization views today now short-term won't term for the season and so this is just part of the territory that combs the very difficult disarming of being next in line after our rod which in this case means playing taking the snaps snaps reps with the ones at mandatory minicamp today this week. Dan what do you think. I mean i think first of all it's important understand for jordan. Love that this is a football team that is built to take on a young quarterback that is needing development. This is a football team. That's got one of the best offensive lines in the game. A top five run game pretty diversified skill position group one of the best receivers in football and what they believe is hopefully improving defense here talking about a situation that let's live in the over. Aaron rodgers does not play for green bay jordan. Love is not going to be tasked and or to do with thomas stops. He's going to leave the point guard to operate the offense and not have a lot of demand with the subpar roster. I think a lot of pressure on the floor their head coaching playcaller because with aaron rodgers matlin floors allowed to operate in a situation of strength. Right it's like talking to you. Same bolt about sprinting. You could talk about stride. Length and frequency and power in ankle with a guy like that but going to jordan love is going to be talking about it with a newborn toddler. that's just learning to walk. You're going to have to go back in time. As a coach. Coaching go over the basics with him and so the challenge is going to fall upon matlock. Florida figure out a way to communicate and teach jordan love but also try to get somewhat similar results. That aaron rodgers was able to get dan a newborn toddlers really big baby adam. I wanna follow up on something. That i think is been a conversation in the league. Because we've seen this have to happen recently in the patriots situation replacing legendary quarterback i. It's so difficult to do. So let's say that's what happens with the packers and they're having to replace aaron rodgers. What is a conversation around the league. About how hard that is see. I always remember. Bob greasy the hall of fame quarterback saying before his son took over for john. Elway that you don't want to be. The guy takes over for a hall of fame quarterback and if we going look at the notable recent teams and what they've done looking at. How difficult news to do that. Job and take over for a hall of fame quarterback only one team over the last twenty years gone to the playoffs. That was the miami. Dolphins dealer took the place. Look at the records of those teams. That lost all of quarterback. Yesterday i said that the packers worse teams. Look here's the deal with rogers. They're one of the best without him. They take a big drop. Because you see how difficult it is to replace a quarterback that great of that stature it impact so much about your organization that again very few teams are able to overcome that in the season after and some take years to get back to where they would like to be out to your point we have to refer to history for a lot of this as a direction. Let's bring in. Rob demovsky live from packers camp right now and rob out of mentioned it yesterday. Detailing of the accuracy issues love display. This is just a really dramatic saga particularly in the two minute drill. But how did love look today. Watch him one day and he looks like he's light years away from being ready watching the next and it looks like he could start right now because that's where his first two days of minicamp yesterday he struggled with accuracy and it was mostly check downs. Today he was zipping the ball all over the place. He was throwing the ball down the field. How did he turn it around so quickly. As a quarterback is a in any position you got gotta quickly hit that reset button Certainly you want to have success because again. Your confidence grows and gives you I guess more more confident and be consistent. Make those plays but you gotta treat every day as its own entity and and you can't rest on what you did the day before whether it's good or bad and that's what we're looking for from him and i think he's done a nice job responding On a daily basis love was so hot at one point in practice hitting throws all over the place. The tight ends coach. Justin took his play card in started. Fanning love off as if to cool him off. You heard him say that he would one hundred percent be ready to play week one and be the starter at new orleans days like today would make the packers agree with that. But don't forget tomorrow is a new day. The final day of mandatory minicamp. Yeah we'll find out. What does tomorrow from you robin. And that's what we do here on the show if someone has a hot take phantom off We do that a lot to dinner orlovsky. We got tim hasselbeck here as well. We got two cornerbacks to talk about this. The spotlight is going to be on love right. Dana and day out. Adam talked about it. We await rogers decision here. But how much wave. You give loves daily performance in these updates. That were getting tim. I'm not riding the roller coaster. I am not less if we want to look at you know not a in its entirety minicamp if you will or if you want to look at a training camp in in its entirety or preseason you know where you're combining for games in this entirety short fine. I don't think any of our time to evaluate without context of the actual plays knowing the situation that they might be to think that day in practice to date some type of judgment. If you know jordan love is going to be ready or not based on individual practices. I think it's premature to do that. Really good quarterbacks have bad practices now you string fifteen of them together. Maybe have a problem with the up down day to day. i think it's just way too premature. It certainly what we're going to do. But i don't think it will give us an indication over what type of quarterback he's actually going big now disagree with that. I think that we could put some weight because these are huge practices and huge performances. Coming out of college there was a lot of potential attacks jordan. Love but the question mark was while he's got some accuracy issues so then he's the first quarterback in two thousand and five last year doesn't start as a first round draft pick at -sition. He's not even good enough in. There is already enough to be the backup quarterback and then he gets the first minicamp practice in the conversation as well. He looked inaccurate. Like that is because tim. You know this at some point pads come on and guys come and try to split your face in half when you're getting hit so it's only going to get harder so i want to hear the conversation of his accuracy. Being good i think for jordan love. It's not only important to get these xs and os. It is important to get the reps of them. Success and failure. That's like in. The nfl for quarterback can have good days. Good games that days. In bad games the more reps he gets in the situational football and handling it the better off he will be if in when september comes in. He's their guy. Yeah i do want to point out. That yesterday was really the first day that he had a chance to work with some of the number one guy is. He didn't even get to work with all of them. Because even guys like davante adams off to the side. So i think that factors in as well. Let's get into some more news today. The texans announce they will not have many camp next week as head coach. David kelly says they got enough work. Done these past four weeks. All is remains still on quarterback deshaun watson who has not been at the voluntary ot as was not expected to show up after asking for a trade in january and of course dealing with legal issues as well. John's former teammate. And current denver broncos safety kareem jackson was on the captain fades with a key to leave. Had this to say about this sean. I've got a great relationship with shaun. I've been talking to him these last couple of weeks and all we've been saying all he's been telling me is look jack. Just tell them like. That's where i want to be. I want to be in denver. So again to shawn watson. According to kareem jackson saying he wants to be in denver. Adam schefter what more can you tell us about the current situation with watson. I hope that jack asked to show him. What's of okay saying that. I put aside from that. We give has that and we look at all the moves at the houston. Texans made this off season. And what they're telling you is they're not planning on having to shawn watson this season or maybe ever again again as that investigation goes on in houston as the nfl's investigation goes on as we wait to see whether or not they will be disciplined in this particular case. The texans have acted as if they cannot count on and are not preparing to have to shawn watson in the future. My understanding is of course that they will not sell him at a discount. They will not deal at a discount. They will look to feel. His value is in full before they make a move with him but just look at everything that they've done this season. They signed tyrod taylor. They draft davis mills with their top hick. Which wasn't until later in the draft but it was still their very first pick in the upcoming or in the past. Nfl draft and then they signed geoff driscoll giving him a half million dollars in guaranteed money. They've made enough moves at the quarterback position to tell you that they're making other plans. And i think we talked to people around the league. They believe that. The texans will not just move on from shawn watson that they will wait until is value is almost back in whole before they make a move with him. But i think there's a league wide assumption. That the shawn watson very will may have played his last down with the houston texas well and yeah adam. I mean when you think about that. It's gonna take time if that value can get back to where it would have been before that takes a long time as legal process has to work itself out so guys dan and tim. This is a situation where the most important thing is figuring out the legal side of this right. But let's say shawn watson really has played his last down football as a texan dan. Where makes sense for him to try and go especially considering a large amount of time that we don't know how much that's even gonna before he could play again the initial thought of the teams that have been the conversation for potentially earn rogers again. The denver broncos the las vegas raiders. Potentially the miami dolphins and then the team that if everything clears itself out that i would keep an eye on because they need a now answer and a long-term answer would be the washington football team. Who again is in the nfc about houston. I would have the biggest desire. If i'm going to trade him which i think they will get into the nfc. And i think washington is looking for their guy for the next decade. Was dan mentioned all the teams. I think that if we're going to put the legal stuff behind us. I mean the fact of the matter is shawn watson fantastic quarterback. He's young would make a lot of things better. You know. I think that getting to that point if you think back to the texans unwillingness to trade him prior any of the off field stuff You know being brought to light. They were willing to do it then. And they were certainly would have been looking for a massive amount of compensation so of what adam is saying is correct in that you know. They're not going to. They're going to wait for his value. To rebound this could take quite a while for shawn watson when they told when they wait for his value to be restored. Basically it may not be with the season again. Let's see how all these cases turn out. Let's see how the discipline works out if there is discipline right and then once you get past that maybe next off season it'll be a full year. It could be that the shawn watson. Nothing's decided on his future until them but when we talk about where he would fit again i think we have the same discussion with the shawn watson that we did with russell. Wilson aaron rodgers. And that's he would fit on twenty five. Nfl teams almost everybody outside kansas city buffalo. A team with a quarterback that it knows it's building around for years to come should be reviewing that situation and making a determination about whether to shawn watson would or could be an upgrade over their particular current quarterback and prior to the draft. And everything that happened. A lot of those teams absolutely were as adam had reported. Do own or rent your home. Sure you and. I bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. nfl live. Let's go to tampa. We're just about a week ago. Bruce arians said he expected. Tom brady to be more of a coach. At minicamp palm apparently had other plans. Yesterday he was full. Go to the point that. I had to pull him back a few times. Pretty sure ghosts only one speed brady in the bucks. We'll look to pick up where they left off. Last season they're often surged down. The stretch ranking first or second points per game yards per game and offenses efficiencies from weeks. Tens or seventeen so major improvement right as the season. Went on really addressed the media. Today we've got some bad news for defense. It's he explained. Just how injure. He was during last season's championship run. I had to spend a lot of time attending to that particular injury. Which happens when you have something. That's you know you need it. Ultimately have surgery to get fixed. It was an injury. I dealt with Really you know. Since last. April may i knew i would have to do something at the end of the year and a happy i did it and it was probably something that was needed to be done. And there's a great outcome sell very happy about that. I fill out the do some different things this year that i was able to do. All right let me get this straight. Tom brady he needs needs. Serve free have to get it at the end of the season but just know plays the whole season win the super bowl at age forty two. How crazy is this guy. I mean what's going on here. This is ridiculous. I hope people understand what he said. So basically april may of twenty twenty. He finds out. And i've got to have knee surgery and then spends the year basically tending to that. He getting you ready. You know goes to a new team meets. New teammates learns a new. Offense goes on wednesday super bowl and then has surgery on that knee in february like in perspective. When i was forty two i had two knee surgeries on the same gained about thirty pounds and stopped going upstairs. Okay so like what he's done is absolutely remarkable and. I don't know that there's ever been a player that has taken better care of their body throughout their career than tom brady and ten. Don't sell yourself short. You really bounced back. Well from that so i was gonna come on. Dan don't be mean so. Dan a healthy brady. They return all the starters right. I may be asking the impossible here but can you find me a weakness at all on this team to maybe like give some other teams some hope. The comfort of time you know go back to last year showed up those great stats week. Ten through seventeen but weeks one through ten were somewhat up and down relatively ugly pounding the table on our show of what they needed to do. Expensively right and what happened was because they were in the middle of the season and they were cluttering time. Force them to to make a decision. Okay we're going to go for this offense that were trying run and then we're going to do this stuff that tom wants to do. And the offense to your point took all they have right now is whole off the comfort of times. There's no reason for them to panic or go what we have you on my own. This is a nit-pick this is a nit-pick is if the coaches or the steps it back no you know what maybe we will try to stuff that we didn't do well last year or maybe we will try that stuff that bruce arians really wanted to do other than that this offense. We'll be better and when it comes to ability and talent. No there is absolutely no weakness on this offense. Yeah it's really scary at sal pal. Did point out yesterday that todd bowles from the defensive side it put in a whole bunch of new stuff. That brady was trying to check out so on defense. They're doing some different things already. Warning outside. lines the emmy and peabody award. Winning show tackles the most important issues in sports time. What college athletics is going to look like taking you beyond the headlines. Every sport is yet your important. But you're not as important as the menstrual with perspective from the best analysts in the business of the first time the dallas cowboys have a black quarterback is one hundred percent the face of the franchise outside the lines every saturday at nine. Am eastern on espn. Hey if you're not watching the women's college world series you're missing out. The atmosphere and oklahoma city has been electric and after four two states win last night. They take a one old lead in the best of three women's college world series championship series. Game two tonight at seven eastern of course all games right here on. Espn streaming live on the espn app. Trevor lawrence is a once in a generation quarterback award has a new to the forty. Niners field is going to be ready to take over the chicago bears and very soon. This is the economic dome me match made in heaven over the last ten seasons. There were thirty two quarterbacks selected in the first round of those three to ninety four percents started in their rookie season. So the question about this year's first round rookie quarterback's maybe shouldn't be. It's still start window. Start right if you draft him that high. You gotta put them out there. You gotta play on. So we got a couple of quarterbacks with us today and you know what shefty could be a quarterback to. We thought we'd have. These guys weigh in on three highly contested veteran versus rookie. Qb competitions to watch this year. Tim defending the vets. Dan's making a case for the rookies sensible. We'll start with the patriots who drafted mack jones. The fifteenth pick overall also bringing cam newton back. Tim what is cam. newton needed. Dude remain the starter in new england. He needs to show way better. Understanding of the passing game. Concepts in new england obviously really struggled year ago thing about an eight touchdowns picks less than twenty seven hundred yards. I really when you think about it. He's playing on backup money last year and then again this year. It's the played better than that to justify playing veteran over a quarterback that was drafted in the middle of the first round. So that's what i think. He needs to do better jobs mainly just as a half. They're playing the position yet. Ten for me is mack. Jones is going to win this job number one. He needs to have mastered protection operation. Understand where the pressure is going to be and then own it and then also godly with. This is going to be a football team. That's really good running the football. If mack jones can handle the blitzes and place the ball exactly where it needs to be placed for a ton of yards after catch. Which is something that offense was at. Its best with tom. Brady. that's what. He majored in keys. Their absolute distributed the football. All over the place and allow orlando bloom. type accuracy. The show up tint mack. Jones is going to be the guy tim said. Last year cam. Newton was paid backup money and he's being paid back up money to a certain extent this year but he plays the true backups. Last year's which is why the patriots set a record during free agency and headed weapons at wide receiver tight and they come in with an entirely new in samba of weapons surrounding cam newton. Who will be given the first chance to show that he can play with them. I the it's cans jobs lose for mack jones takeover. Some point in time interesting okay. The bears tweeted out that. Andy dalton is there. Qb one justin feels looking at change. That ten how. Andy dalton win the starting job in chicago by doing a lot of the things that he did for the majority of his career in cincinnati. You know can say they want about andy dalton postseason record back to the matter is he plays with drink timing anticipation and accuracy or has the majority career if he can do those things operate offense efficiently and a chance to basically be the guy. That's the bridge. Justin fields and surrounded by good talent post by the right coaching staff. Have some success doing that. Just feels become their starter if he allows himself to. Survival in. Playing quarterback is about surviving. And there's a lot of different ways to do it but when you have let them and the long three that just feels does that allows play on the field faster also the ability to get outside the pocket. You can get creative in your run game. When you're you're passing game when you do that and then broken plates. Justin field allow this offense that has an average offensive line and average because of his athleticism to shine. Is survival instincts. We'll be why you started to me. It reminds me a little bit when they drafted this is again. The bears proclaimed andy dalton cutie. One that's the plan. He will be the started opening day. Barring anything unforeseen the issue of mickey what happens if in anti-doping struggles at some point has some interceptions. They lose some games and all the fans in chicago will be screaming for justice field. Which is going to happen and the bears with stay all and do what's in the best interest of the franchise long-term in a holdall all those polls brandy dolan job. Haven't the forty niners. They traded up to get the third pick in the nfl draft to take treat lands. But jimmy g. hasn't guys let super bowl tim. What's the key for jimmy g. Starting in san francisco. As i think laura wanders missile crack. Starting jobs needs to place so great that it's hard for them to move off him but most importantly he needs to stay healthy because that's really been the biggest for him in terms of you know scott lack of success in san francisco so all of those things to happen garoppolo to have a chance that have the starting job for part of upcoming season. Trae lynch needs to have his kidneys. Coach wanna play eleven on eleven football. Not ten on eleven football. You can do so much trains. Because if his outlet physically cow wants to major in the game but just what he used to do with. Rg three. This is when you have the mobile quarterback guys you can play eleven on eleven football. We're talking down to the red zone zone. Read game we're talking down. Red quarterback draw especially situational. Full palestinian can dial up so many different run games aspects utilizing trae lent as a runner. He can play eleven eleven football. That's why you can be they're starting trae lance and just feels and mac ios really all in the same category. It's up to them. How quickly they start. Depending on how quickly they pick up the offense and display the talent naval them to be the first round picks they worked. That's how soon they'll start. They're going to be given a chance to compete. And it's question of who can shine the quickest keep having a voice in my ear that say trae lance of all. These quarterbacks is the closest to be ready to start his rookie year. So we'll see if that holds up in training camp this summer. I like that voice in your ear. Adam and listen like if you were going to look at it. He was drafted the highest and he was the guy that the forty niners went up to get. Not just because of his skill set but because of his mental capacity and the way that he can process the game. All right so tim. You said what jimmy would have to do for him to go ahead and keep that job or win it however you wanna look at it but if you had to right now tim pick a starter for the forty niners. Who do you pick. I'm picking freelance. I also want to tell schefter that european is to the producer the producer and them traded needs to be there starter. It's francisco voices in our ears or not look. Basically played a year off of football. He played one game. He's been a starter at a at the collegiate level for one year. And i just don't think you can have him take another year awful football. I think the circumstances surrounding his situation. We've never seen anything like it. I mean he. He needs to play in. So i actually don't think there's really scenario where make sense at all for the niners jimmy garoppolo. They need to play. Trae land and dan alluded to this. You know with eleven on eleven football. He's gonna come up with ways to get him. Have some success. And i think they need to do that. You want to start see. Not only san francisco traded up. Did it allow them to pick the quarterback that they wanted after. Trevor lawrence went one. And zack wilson one to but it also enabled them to conduct testing interviews with these guys than i think other quarterbacks wouldn't have had they wouldn't have had the chance to if they stayed at number twelve. So that extra access to every one of these quarterbacks who all wanted to go number three extra time with trae lands extra time with mac jones. Extra time were just field. The one takeaway was that trae. Lance is intelligence level was off the charts his i. Iq was off the charts. The way he was received by his teammates was off the charts so if all that is in place clearly there's going to be a certain magnetism to him going into training camp. Show me. You can't do the job that would be my mindset abutment san francisco trae lance show me. You can't. i'm giving you every opportunity to prove to me that you're not ready and if you're not ready fine but i know this offense inside and i've played for multiple years in the nfl. It is going to stress the center. More intellectually bennett is a young quarterback again. There are going to though many wide open throws because of the threat of the run game with trae land. This offense is going to be easier for him to play and everyone like it's important for everybody to get reminded. This is not forty years ago. Coming into the nfl. The game is so much more spread out. The rpo coaches are so much smarter like the ability to just get ball out of quarterbacks hands. It's not that taxings to play a young quarterback in the nfl. Compared to twenty thirty years ago. Dan look shanahan. Did for rg threes rookie year. He brought in basically y'all ran and baylor he tailored it to him. He made it easy. So that new. I start going into new orleans into one of the toughest places against it was a up because the was done. He's advantage and shanahan knew a lot of this would be on him when they made this decision to go ahead and get tree lynn. Back on the nfl lives packers. Mandatory minicamp well underway without aaron rodgers jordan. Love seeing right there. Qb one under a magnificent spotlight poor performance yesterday is terrible and today is amazing so this is going to be a world for a little while. Right adam schefter here for the last six weeks we've had these. Mandatory minicamps circled in the situation between aaron rodgers. And the packers. What's the next step though of importance. Here was it in the next episode Camp and the aaron rodgers watched which has been going on for months now continues onto training camp while the packers themselves way to see were there. Aaron rodgers decides to report for training camp. At that time he missed the ota's he missed virtual offseason program. He missed the mandatory minicamp and my understanding is. Is that the packers president. The general manager very well may make another run at trying to meet with aaron rodgers at the conclusion of this mandatory minicamps. Some time here in the coming days or weeks they are likely to try to meet with him again and again see if they can get some type of different response that would enable him to show back up in green bay in time for training camp but to point. I don't know that anybody knows how this is going to turn out. Since i have to wait and see the motto of the moment here all right aaron rodgers and the packers were obviously one of the last four teams in the playoffs from the nfc last year along the super bowl. Champion buccaneers the saints and the ranch. So tim if hard for teams to make this point back to back right so who is a team that could be one of the final four teams out of the nfc this year. You remember what happened last year and you try to take everything into consideration. Going into the season i'm going to go with the arizona cardinals. Look at the cardinals. And i see a quarterback that has already a superstar about mary lou for about four thousand yards a year ago. Rush about eight hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. I think that he is an absolute headache defending he's wanted to get even harder to defense forward. I think we're there can be growth is as there's been some changes on that defense vance joseph Certainly has his work cut out for. But i think we'll do a good job on that side of the ball. I think the improvement can really come from cliff. Kingsbury does a good job with that offense. They designed guys open. They're going to always be a handful on that side of the ball. I think it's just doing a better job of being a head coach. All the aspects of it in terms of engaging management managing players all of those different things that you do as a head coach. I think we'll see growth there narrate zona one of these teams that we see near the top of the nfc. Your i love that one. I'll tell you the washington football team. I think first of all this offense is gonna be predicated on a ton of speed. It might be the fastest offense in the nfl. We're talking terry mcauliffe outside. Then they got curtis samuel in free agency. Mcchord is coming one of the best receivers in the nfl. Not just one of the best young ones fifty is going to have a ton of weapons the throat through yami brown. North carolina is a huge tonio gibson. At tailback. those are four guys. That absolute offensively again. I'll say this could be fastest offense in the nfl now. Fizi has those roller coaster rides because he plays with no fear of failure. He's just gonna play that yolo chuck style of football but he plays his best when he's got a defense that can bail them out a little bit and that's what he's gotten. Washington is a dominant defense. I think washington has the chance to be an outstanding football teams and certainly winning that division and then making noise into the playoffs back. Some linebackers sign the oldest laura in. You're basically yesterday after saving collins. Som- tweeted out the news that he had signed to which. Jj what was quick to respond saying how much how much. Because i want to know what. I'm able to get for breakfast and so basically c. j. c. watts response right there. How much shefty got to know what the next breakfast order will be. I can't even read without my glasses on here. But essentially jesse while once practice and jamie colleges sign as i told you can get whatever you want. Whatever you from saving collins he's buying. That's a rookies. do i think it was just. Don't day so. I don't know the gauge. You want as much interested in donuts. But again i think. Jd real. Get what he wants breakfast. Hear me now back here on. Nfl lies back bond. So far now we may never retrieve it. But anyway i will tell you what's coming up next for real but by the way shots adam. Schefter me on this show host. The show said all year long. He was expected to retire. This was expected to be his. Last season were underway in the big easy freeze flushes to his right throws in picked off at the forty straubing as the pass at intercept picked off by group breeze. Probably walking away from the game that it to play twenty years in the nfl. I wanna be able to look back with incredible memories. And knowing that i gave it my absolute best the saints faced with the task of replacing a hall of fame quarterback case pill versus jameis winston. Who wins this job in the chance to orchestrate the first step into life without drew brees they have very different skill. Set so to sean. Payton need to be thinking about two different offense schemes for two. Qb's he addressed that yesterday. Votes tried to look closely at the strengths of our players. What they do well and will build a little bit around That player accordingly and in at something we did when drew. I arrived here and we would do with either of these two buyers. There's certain things that you might do specifically to one or the other in yet they're still an overall philosophical approach that these guys will learn to play offense but it's not a whole different game plan for each one of them out of there any sense around the league. What the plan at quarterback will be for the saints. We'll laura i. They love both quarterbacks. Truly and i think that they're going to give them both a chance. Maybe it'll wind up looking a lot like last year with jameis winston stepping into the drew brees role and tatum hill. Continuing the taste hill rule. But i think they'll try to figure that out once they get the training camp. But i know that feels very strongly about both quarterbacks. They're very impressive. James were very tasting tilt a lot of money and so it's hard to say exactly how it's going to shake out but i think in a significant time in the franchise's history. We saw running the show. How hard it is to replace a hall of fame quarterback and the saints are in the same situation that we talked about for the packers now. Having to replace drew brees also feels like sean payton wants to prove that he could change things up for james winston. Right so dan if it is james. Do you expect to see him. Take a hugely ford right. The leap we always felt like his talent warrants. One hundred percent because it sean payton background. If we look at sean payton track record in his work with quarterbacks if you go back to the new york giants wicker quarterback performance with their before. He got there in the new year. He got number quarterback performance when he went to dallas cowboys your before when he got there and then the quarterback performance by to brief the year. Before sean payton. They're talking about a thousand more yards four touchdowns or less interception almost ten points hiring qbr. I mean we're passer rating. Excuse me we're talking about james having the opportunity because of an with sean payton to have the best your hat in the nfl. And i think you know. Certainly sean schematically wants to run the football. But it's a good fit because they want to use that for their play action chunk game something that james winston does very well but then sean also wants to do the. Hey i'm gonna give you. These layup throws these gimmes. Just take these five or six yards. Please and i would argue that. James never had that in the nfl. He's never had that and one. Sean has those five six seven plays built into every game. That he's saying james. Just take these five or six yards just as important as it is to get rid of those turnovers if he says yes coach. I'm just gonna take these six easy yards here on a consistent basis games winstons gonna play really good in new orleans. James is the guy there. Dan i i mean look at a couple of factors here and i know tastes. Them is making a lot of money as adam reference. Here's the deal. Taste hell's going to be about thirty one years old at the beginning of the season. Jameis winston's twenty-seven jameis winston has as many touchdown passes thrown in the. Nfl is pay. Some hill has attempts jameis. Winston people shouldn't forget. I know out of sight out of mind is that he had some really good moments. You're right about coaching interceptions. In turnovers through your point about some of the easy completions and throws that helps make that happen. I think the saints and reference. Mrs wealth looks like moving on from drew. Brees is going to be hard. What the other thing that is hard is defending that saints off when taste hills lined up as a tailback. Then tight then. A wide receiver then is in the backfield as a quarterback without a personnel change in the running quarterback power. Right down your throat to me. I think the best thing would be to use tastes than the way they've been using them and go ahead and make that move to james. Yeah it makes their offense so unique for sure did let's live in a world where jameis winston is what we think he could be right and he's excellent or at least pretty good. How great is this saints team. Then well they lost two key players. Offensively ready jared cook moving on from tight end and emmanuel sanders. Going up to buffalo are big losses. That's lot of production that they counted on. That's another person. Opposite michael thomas emmanuel sanders or jared. Cook down the middle of field still a very good offensive line and alvin kamara. One of the best pieces in the league. But they're going to have to find people on the perimeter end at tied now to kind of build up production to grow along with jameis. Winston does speak to the point of having case hill as a weapon. That could help. Talk one more thing before we go. We got a quarterback from the show so we thought maybe we would give a little love throughout the quarterback bought. This is justin ferber looking swell out. There looks like ten when ten played A little less like dan. But what you guys think when it comes down to the curia. I think the shirt up. I mean maybe it. Maybe these maybe. I'm going to have to change these push ups and bodyweight squats because herbert looks picking. I look like a twelve year old swimmer. I'm gonna have to figure out a dip away. Two brand joined the found jet hundred. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - David Pollack (01-07-19)

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"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week. Log hate you with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of grade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on fixed rate loan. My human realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance has a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. NMLS are three thousand nine hundred one from the Mercedes men K. Here's Dan Patrick. It's good to be back in our to this Monday. Dan in the danettes, Dan Patrick show. She had good holidays. Happy New Year's we ready. Get ready to go heading into the postseason here games over the weekend. National title game tonight Super Bowl and a couple of weeks. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com or Twitter handle with DP show. Get to your best and worst of the weekend your phone calls. Emails tweets coming up. David pollock. He's covering the national title game for the mothership. He'll join us coming up in about fifteen minutes. We'll check in with the chargers. Head coach. Anthony, Lynn and Jalen Smith, the Dallas Cowboys linebacker will stop by the program as well poll question. Mclovin. Okay. The first hour was which wildcard winner as best chance to reach the Super Bowl. That's LA. Chargers. Followed pretty closely by the colts. Now, we've just switched it up to which wildcard loser. Would you buy stock in and the bears are the early leader? Yeah. I would buy into the bears. I like them to make the playoffs. And I thought that they could be dangerous in the playoffs when you host playoff games. But now last night eagles, you gave them a chance and Nick foles made them pay. I just I wasn't a dominating performance by the bears. He's not defensively. Colo- mac? I thought was sort of average. You know, you got to put pressure on Nick foles. They weren't able to do that gave them an opportunity. I you know, one of the reasons why I love this bears defense akiem Hicks. I thought that this is prior do getting clue MAC I thought they were playoff too because he is great. He really is. He's great. I to recons got have the ball more than four times. I got it. I got to put the ball on his hands. I thought Trubisky had moments last night. Yes. You had parkey who had the field goal. That was tipped hits the upright, and you lose. But you let the eagles go down the field on that great defense in Chicago. And you know, golden Tate and ends up with a touchdown. So you could end it long before you were relying on Cody parkey to kick a game winning field goal. Yes. Mclovin. What do you think of bears coach, Matt Nagy? Like, he's sort of the next. Sean McVeigh seems pretty awesome to me. I'd feel good about him. Yeah. But okay, what I don't understand is how tree Cohen only has the ball four times. So if you're an offensive minded coach, and I have my best weapon there. I, you know, this isn't the typical bears offense. You know, they do have some playmakers there. And I think Trubisky is a franchise quarterback. You should've won that game. And and to me it shouldn't have been close. You should have won that game by a couple of touchdowns. I really I really believe that. I'm not surprised the eagles one as I said in the first hour, I thought all four road teams. We're going to win this weekend. I thought Seattle was going to win. In fact, I was probably as confident with Seattle as I was the chargers and all of a sudden Dallas played good defense. Ran the football and Seattle stayed with their game plan and stayed with a too long. But Dallas ends up winning. You got some great match-ups coming up. You know, the colts against Kansas City. I think that's an even match. And if I would have said that a month ago, you would have said you're crazy you chiefs can hang with the colts. I I mean, it wait a minute. Are you I'm with your hot take? I mean, the cult of one four and playoff games are row against them. They have a one narrow Coulter to earn a win that game. Okay. Dallas against the Rams is interesting. I think the chargers. Poor chargers. One o'clock east coast. Make you go now one o'clock east coast. Make you go. Again, you went twelve and four now. Hey, we're going to reward you by playing at one couldn't you play at four o'clock like give them just a little bit. No, not going to do that. We'll talk to their head coach. Anthony Lynn, he'll join us coming up in an hour. But there is, you know, the eagles against the saints in the fact that you're going to ask the saints to try to do what they did during the regular season against Philadelphia. And I know it's a big spread. But I it just doesn't feel like it's going to be a blow out in my opinion. I don't you know. It's just a weird feeling you have sometimes where you go. Philadelphia's not going to be as bad as they were the last time in the saints aren't going to be as dominating. I just don't I don't see it that way. Now, do I think the saints are going to win? Yes. I do. Yes. Mikla? You're too close. Because you have you made your pick in the preseason saints chargers. Yeah. So it's hard for you to be biased. I think it's the biggest spread by far the saints have never lost a home playoff game with Peyton. I feel like I'm being unbiased. No, I know I feel like it looks like a blowout as an eagles fan because that the eagles on the road. How can they match up with all those weapons saints? It's no is the eagles second. I know it's playoff football. Yes. For the foles magic factor. Seeping into your head is to why you think it's not going to be a dominating victory. Magic. Does that ever really doesn't roll at the case magic? It. Just weird things happen here in a team that wins a game that they probably shouldn't have won. And they have a motion. It's you know, you have you have these teams that have to get back into playoff football. So it's regular season football. And then didn't mean anything their last game that the saints played the offense hasn't been great. And now all of a sudden the pressures on you, you're hosting the eagles come into town. And you blew him out. I don't know these storylines. It's just it's weird. There's going to be one game this next weekend where you're gonna go. Wow. Didn't see that one coming. And is it going to be the eagles against the saints? Dallas. Is it going to be the chargers in New England colts in Kansas? Like somebody's going to surprise somebody. I think this next weekend usually happens that went. Yep. Oh, Dan by people are telling me that sports betting is gonna be the hot new thing. Do you want to play a little quick game calling called guests that line? Okay. Just came out with. Okay. Then. That. Yes. That line brought to you by nobody. All right. Chiefs colts the chiefs are favored by how many points. Anybody wanna see how many points that? She's our favorite opening line four. By point five she's five and a half point favorites. Okay. Get the book Cowboys at Rams the Rams are favored by. Six and a half. I want to give that to you seven become within a half. That counts hook the hook. Chargers at patriots. The patriots Sunday. The pats are favored, Dan. Yeah. By seven four and a half. Point eagles at saints Sunday evening early nine. What is your answer nine? That's correct. Dan, Patrick you went to for four job. Yeah. But I lost some money on the big though to for four everyone does. Yeah. We'll get some phone calls here. This is best and worst the weekend. Some tweets radio maverick twenty four the best seeing the bears in the playoffs. Again. Enjoyed every stressful moment worst bears fans threatening violence against parkey for the field goal miss. I'll bartman. Tony d one thirty five my eagles coming away with a hard-fought wind. Where's the Cowboys advancing? But in he goes Cowboys playoff matchup would be delicious. TJ snipe hunter the best Cowboys win the whereas Cowboys win never getting rid of Jason Garrett. Now. DJ richer eight nine one one the best North Dakota state football winning their seventh F C S championship. The worst Seahawks losing to the Cowboys. A couple of phone calls in here. Anthony, and Pennsylvania. Anthony, good morning. What do you have for me today? Oh, so watching the Seahawks play the Cowboys this weekend. I think it brings about a great point for the Seahawks future. And that the offense lacks consistency in most games. And Russell Wilson's contracts coming up this year. And I believe that it's time for him to hold the Seahawks and organizations feet to the fire and say, you're either going to invest in this offense or I'm gonna test the free agent, Mark. What do you think about that? I would do that. You know, every everybody, you know, Peter King was on last hour and pizzas, you know. The colts did the right thing with their draft by building a fortress around Andrew luck. I'm not gonna give you credit that you that. You know, that's your prototype. That's your blueprint. Hey, we're gonna hey, you don't want. How about we get some bit off into lineman? You should have done that five years ago. That's why you trade it for Trent Richardson. That's why I said at the time you have Andrew luck. It doesn't matter. How good Andrew luck is if he doesn't have time. So you went out and got Quinton Nelson, which I said he might be the best player in the draft. Any might be. But I'm not giving you credit 'cause you went out and said, oh, you know, let's go get offense lineman. I'll give you credit that you drafted some good lineman. But you know, having offense lineman to protect your franchise quarterback. And go figure who came up with that approach. But Andrew luck is played great and the Texans with those great defensive lineman didn't sack him. Yeah. It's interesting when you give quarterback time it can be pretty good. So that's what it was. You gave Andrew luck time. He's not getting hit Mosey sack less than twenty times this year fifteen times. That usually equals success. If you're not gonna put hands on my quarterback or hit him or he gets injured. Now, the colts did the right thing. They got some draft picks. They used them wisely. They went, you know, because normally you're not gonna take linemen that high. But you know, the NFL scout who told me Nelson is a bad, dude, man. Like, he's bad. He first team. All pro. He's a bad, dude. He's he's he's the real deal. All right. So you bring him in. You're getting a guy you plug in for the next ten years that I mean, that's what you want. That's what Andrew luck wants. I think is about the third play of the game and cloudy bit for a pump fake and kind of jumped and Quinton Nelson got into his ribs and just pancaked and they showed it about four times. Yeah. No, no. But they MAC is really been the surprised because I think those about a month ago when I was hearing, you know, maybe the colts with lady on bell. And the colts seemed to have a good running attack and MAC is cheap labor on Bell's not cheap. And I thought okay, you know, the colts are taken the right approach here. The not spending a lot of money. But as far as Seattle goes, you know, do you have a running back you can count on? The philosophy. They ran the ball kept running the ball. And I kept thinking at some point. They're going to go. Hey, russ. We screwed up this game plan. Can you win the game fourth? Sorry. We did it again to you. And it never happened. I would have I want the best player on my team to have the ball in his hands. And they were taking the ball out of his hands. Yup. Oh, the colts are paying their star running back Marlin MAC five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah. Six forty next year because you can you can find a running back we've seen that you can find him. Now, the talent is finding the running back, but they're out there. And do I want you on bell on the colts answers? Now. I'd rather spend my money wisely on other positions there. You got a really good defense sneaky good defense not sneaky anymore. But you know, that that's a sneaky good defense. Would I like another weapon for the colts? Yes, if I'm Seattle and Russell Wilson. Yes. You always want another Wepener too. But you know, they've invested in before in running backs and it didn't go. Well, you got to beef up the offensive line. And the defense is in is threatening. As it once was, you know, you got a hall of Famer and Wagner, but it I mean, it's just not the same as it. Once was it's nowhere near the legion of boom. Let me see Eric in Virginia. I eric. What do you have for me today? Hey, five ten stout. One fifty. Welcome back. Good to have you back start with the worst. I guess since. That's we'll be better. Hey to see the Seahawks lose. But the injury to that kid, man. Remember the Louisville injury with the kid with the way and seeing Hearns. Yeah. Yeah. Man that was that was tough to watch, thankfully, they didn't really replay it that much, but you know, Dotson British the him and his family but best of the weekend. Honestly. Mclovin. Tear poll question instead of team that's gonna make the Super Bowl Most interesting path to the Super Bowl. I'm taking the chargers. And then he pick at the beginning of the season, your thoughts on how you kind of think it's gonna play out. And if you're taking the colts and the chargers, and what you think about that. All right. Well, thank you. Yeah. I still with the chargers. The chargers all the way, I'm not gonna give them. You know, it was a good run. You know, what look they they play well away from home. So I know I know just feels like and I gotta ask their head coach about this. Like, what is it about that you play? So well away from home, if you wanna call it home, and you're going into new if you're going to beat New England this would be the year, you're going to beat New England because I've said, you know, for the last six weeks they're vulnerable. They're not they're not, you know, the normal patriots. But come playoff time. That's when Bella check and Brady, and you give them a drive a moment. And that's when they produce. But the chargers cannot go out there and kick field goals and expect to beat New England not there in New England. And I looked at the weather. I mean, it's going to be biting cold. Now going to be cold there. Probably hoping for snow like the worst weather ever. But the chargers, sir. My not. I mean, they have a I was hoping hunter Henry and Stephen a Smith was hoping to the hunter Henry was going to be able to play this weekend. Maybe you'll be able to play a New England. That would be nice. Yes. Because you're back. So that I feel like Philip rivers throwing the ball away. And then it lands Keenan, Allen's arms, isn't that the weirdest. It's the way the TV angle is he oh, it's the way he throws. Oh, he's just throwing that up at this space. And then Keenan Allen standing there. I I never get the feeling that Philip rivers throws a ball that hurts. They're guys who can throw it. But it always feels like Philip rivers. He just throws it in like lands like a butterfly like it just kind of just goes in. But right there, but it doesn't look like know John Elway would hurt your hands. He'd leave. A Mark Philip rivers, man. Not really just he's a nice guy. Just found throw it in there. Nicely at dadgum ball. Yeah. Just throw it in there nicely. All right. More phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show, Email address GPA, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle with DP show almost three hundred thousand of you of downloaded the new DP show app. We we did a redo on this a redesign. So the podcast directly from the app. You can listen online or offline and send us your meet Friday song fun video photos. You can upload directly to the show on the app. The app is still the best place to live stream the show catch up on daily interviews and watch apple exclusive content. The all new redesigned EP show app. Download it today at the app stores. We'll talk about the national title game coming up tonight. 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Hey, you with the rhinestone dog collar between us dogs. I just convinced. My human of grade to new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low with three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance. Ask a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS Alrighty three nine nine eight. Oh, one ran do some fans of the show in Hawaii people visiting Hawaii and the locals and had questions a lot of questions a lot of tattoos on display in Hawaii. So they asked about Seaton's tattoos. Couple of people. I met from Portland, Oregon. I to know about fritzy. So yeah, just, you know, about time the had there, they were with their wives. And they were saying, you know, would fritzy wanna hug, my wife, which is an odd thing to have somebody say to you. And I always go. Yeah. Fritzy? Yeah. He's equal opportunity hugger. Ranted some nice people there. You guys been to Hawaii? I've been to the big island for my honeymoon. I I liked it a lot. It's a lot of different landscapes in different areas. Like he is completely different than Kona. Yeah. I once very touristy ones like nineteen seventy eight. Well, you have you can go couple of hours and go from rain to, you know, intense sunshine, so he lo and then you go to Kawai we went over to coli Conan, obviously, very warm, but it was a lot of fun. Great people there. Yeah. For we did Maui Hawaii on our honeymoon. Remember it being beautiful. We're going to try to get that they're in the next year or so, but you got to commit when you go you got to commit that's a long long trip. Especially from Connecticut, yellow, we're flying we connected in Los Angeles. We get on our flight from Los Angeles. Actually, I'm sorry. We had a direct flight from New York City to the big island Hawaii as we pass, Los Angeles. Right. We go past a couple of hours. I think it's five hours past Los Angeles, something like that. So we're about two and a half hours into about two and a half hours ago the pilot which. I just want to give you a update from the flight deck. We have a bit of a an issue here. We're having a issue with one of our like stabilisers, he says something he goes, we're right now in kind of a inbetween area, we are just past the halfway point where we'd either have gone back to Los Angeles or keep going through to Hawaii. And there's a technical problem the plane as a mechanical problem the plane, everything was fine. But he told us there's not really anything you can do by telling us the last two two and a half hours. We're pretty bad. Like it was like, oh my gosh. But there's nowhere to land. It's like we're going to white or we would have gone if he goes if this would have happened fifteen minutes ago, we turned around and gone back to Los Angeles and switched planes. Why why would you tell us? I was leaving Australia Sydney and flying back to Los Angeles. And we get we're three hours out, and I'm on the the window side. And I see this black plume of smoke. Come right from one of the engines. And I'm with a woman who never flown before she grabs my hand. Squeezes. She was what just happened. I said we're going to be turning around going back to Sydney, so we're three hours out. I got a thirteen hour flight, go back change planes, wait three hours and then fly back to Los Angeles again. But yeah, been there done that. All right phone calls coming up. We'll get to those best worst of the weekend. As we always do it's bringing in David Pollock from the mothership part of college gain days crew all day coverage of college football's national championship game and kickoff eight eastern highlights including a Bill Belichick conversation where he discusses Nick Sabin success and their relationship. David good morning. How are you? Good morning. Damn do. Great, man. What do you say to people who say, oh, no? Here we go again, Clemson, Alabama, get better, they them. I mean, that's that's always the thing that people get sick of it. But I mean, it's it's really is in my lifetime. It really feels like Red Sox Yankees, you know, several years ago, it was a up and coming Red Sox, and they hadn't one in a long time. But you don't have talent. And then all of a sudden they break for breakthrough. And then when if you more and that feels like Clemson, and then the evil empire is is Alabama. You know, they they're the standard they've been doing it. So it's just tough, man. You got you got the greatest coach of all time people thought Nick Sabin bear Bryant in what he did would never be touched and would never be clinched. And Nick Sabin almost half the time in Alabama has done what they're Bryant did. And that's the mazing think about and that does the second best coats in college, football and recruited a high level and got his guys. It's cool thing too. Because he doesn't such a different way with he's so different the way he leaves between Nick. And so it's just, you know, sit back and relaxing admire greatness. And I know you get sick and tired of being the team's win. But it's going to do something about it. Then go beat 'em. And don't let them with. Okay. But my point to these people who criticize so I'm not gonna watch any other sport. What what other sports do you go? I get tired of seeing the two best teams square off if it's the Super Bowl the world. Like, he want a great story. But in the end March madness, you wanna have the two best teams face off against each other. You know, you have that tonight. And just I guess, you know, maybe we're we're bored by the greatness of these two programs, especially Alabama. I I'm not quite sure. And maybe it's, you know, regional maybe the fact that you know, you've got Clemson, and you've got ala Bama and the rest of the country. It's not going to be interested. I I don't know. I'm a little baffled by it. But I would think that you would. To have the two best teams. And you're gonna have a lot of future pros playing in the game coming up tonight. So I don't know find it interesting, but not everybody does. Well, you got eight of the top thirty five guys way. You don't talk mcshea board. They'll play in this game. You know, do we are we sick of are you sick of LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers versus the Golden State Warriors we've gotten that what the last three or four years. It's been it's been fucking amazing. I mean, I I'm I'm not a, you know, diehard NBA fan. But I love it because I know the face. I know the teams I know the story love Kevin Durant. Joined them, you know, I'm just I thought it I thought it was fun. I think it's been fun to follow in one. So I think people get upset. But here's the thing. Dan, you know, good. Well, people get upset that'd be watching. 'cause they they got Alabama to cheer against or Clemson cheer against. And you know, it'll be it'll be fun to watch. And it'll be it'll be watching TV. That's for. Sure. Okay. And it's a two part question. The best college quarterback on the field tonight and the best potential pro quarterback on the field tonight out. I think that's easy. Because to probably better, and he has more weapons than a more complete team more experience, but several Lawrence's filthy. I mean, this dude is I don't know. I've never seen a freshmen come in with this much talent. And just he makes eighteen yard comeback, which is like a standard NFL throw that people look at he makes them look like if easy by it, just his arm talent is is insane. And he's going to be back in this situation. And to me back in the situation. They're both going to be you know, NFL quarterbacks for a long long time. You know, the one difference is there's a lot of very successful left handed quarterbacks. You know, if you think about it the last eighty three quarterbacks traffic, but right handed, and you know, you Steve Young comes to mind, but they're, you know, Mark, Brunell. But there hasn't been a ton of you gotta kinda change your offense. When you have a left painted quarterback like two because you're blindside isn't your left tackle anymore. You're blindsides. You're right tackle. And you know, the spin. On the balls different. And so I think both are going to be successful Trevor Lawrence, you know, next level fits in perfect to will be a little bit of a different fit because of he's a little bit more mobile a little bit shorter and left handed. But I mean, both are going to be very successful high draft picks. I'm worried about the voice though, David. The voice is weak. Godfather, when what happened are like, what did you guys go to dinner, and it was loud, and you had to yell across the table or something? Can you make it tonight? A game time decision, David. I'm I'm I'm I'm probable and definitely it's going to happen. Okay. Oh, it's it. Definitely sounds like I smacked smoke a pack of marble reds. But now it's that time of year late in the season and the west coast time and figuring it out. But we'll get her done. I promise here's something that I was told yesterday that somebody at Ohio State said that urban Meyer is not done coaching. And I followed up by saying, okay? Where would he be coaching? If he's not gonna coach at Ohio State, and he said Notre Dame or USC. What do you think? I think urban believes he's done, you know, and I say that because you know, his health is obviously a concern. And he's worn and stuff. You know? It's amazing that you spend time with Nick save. And we spend time with Davo, and such phenomenal coaches, great, great coaches of this generation, Nick the greatest of all time. And then you spend time urban conversation is so dadgum different. And you know, Daboh, and Nick and these guys the grinders day, and they have Tobin, and they're great coaches, but they have the tunnel vision. And they're in the tunnel, but they got a flashlight and making see where they're going, and they have to spec give like urban urban doesn't have to spec. He's in he's in a total without a flashlight, and it's just tunnel vision and grind and family comes last and everything else comes last, and it's the suit of greatness. So I understand why he's grinded. But the dude fifty four years old, and you know, USC makes a lot of sense Notre Dame makes a lot of. Because of his ties Notre Dame early in his career. So I think he thinks he's done but at fifty four and now he's gonna go try retirement for a little bit. I don't think he's you know, he tried it once and it took a year sabbatical, and then he came right back to how state so I think we'll see him coach again. But I do think he thinks he's done right now because of his health. Yeah. I think at fifty four and he might be an old fifty four. But you know, he strikes me as a lifer. They're they're just certain guys that they don't and he could be an analyst. But I I would be shocked if in two years, we're not talking about Meyer coaching again, cliff Kingsbury has been denied an opportunity to coach or to interview to coach in the NFL. Your thoughts on what USC is doing with their offense coordinator. First of all the higher is phenomenal. I mean, he is that's that's a that. They jobs saving higher for help. I mean, he is cliff Kingsbury one of the greatest minds. Do you watch TV or you watch tape of of Texas Tech the last several years, and we just blows your mind. It wasn't just patch from home. They say did it with you know, two three different quarterbacks and kept changing the offense weekly because one of those quarterbacks would get hurt. And if it's amazing is brilliant offensive line that could make USC so sexy, and he is probably would you know, that that fits perfect his persona his demeanor. His look is everything about that makes a lot of sense as far as the Niang a vacancy or him a opportunity to interview. I mean, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't I wouldn't go that route. I mean, I would always let my guys, you know, pursued things if they wanted to the same things, but you know, they also that's old school. US's old school place in Lynn flawn. You know, kinda got that Steelers. Mccown everybody thought it helped might get fired. And it's like, no, you know, commitment commitment commitment commitment. So I think they're a brand that follows the Steelers in that old regime of, you know, listen, you you have a job stay committed to it. And that's probably the the realm of thinking thinking about the windfall have fun tonight. Don't say anything until you go on the air. How about that to say the pipes of the advice? Yes. Yes. So if somebody says something to you make maybe make a sign, you know, down in hand it to somebody. I yes there. We'll do. Thank you, David. David Pollock BSP in college football analysts college game day crew kick off at eight eastern tonight the national title game. And they got a feature with Bill bell Jack conversation talking about Nick Sabin success and their relationship. Yeah. I was told that yesterday about urban Meyer, and this this is something. This is from somebody at Ohio State who is saying this, by the way that the feeling is that urban not done coaching. And I said, well, where could you see him coaching said definitely won't go back to the SEC. The two opportunities would be Notre Dame or USC. And I said we'll Notre Dame. And then down my source said, you know, after ten years like Brian Kelly at certain point, you know, after ten years, you you kinda maxed out there and would urban want that challenge at Notre Dame. USC, you know, if I'm cliff Kingsbury, and I knew that NFL teams were interested in you. Then you knew teams were interested in you. Don't sign with USC. Okay. That could have been the backup plan if you're that valuable at least explore the NFL because you were you almost took the job with the Rams. I understand why US's going wait. You just got here. No. I wouldn't let you interview I wouldn't because you just got here. And then you're going, wait. You didn't even pay for parking. I mean, come on. You just got here. You know, we committed to you early. And you just got fired. I know that he'll have opportunities. Here's another thing. If you're cliff Kingsbury, I was surprised that he took the job because if he's great at his job clay Helton will be great at his job. And then you don't become the head coach at USC now that can help you get an NFL job that you were going to get an NFL job in my opinion. You know, they were teams that I was told that loved cliff Kingsbury one as a head coaching candidate other as an offensive coordinator, not the Rams. So there were opportunities there, and I would say no as far as urban it just feels like he's going to. Again. And is it Notre Dame is at USA those were the two jobs because he not going to take he not going to do like, Indiana. You're not gonna you know, go to Utah not going back to Utah. I mean, if he's taken a job he's taking a job for big paycheck here and a marquee job. And rightfully so. It'd be funny because you think oh urban Meyer won't come back that quickly because he'll be embarrassed. He he's headway worst press conference as he goes back and takes the USC or Notre Dame job. He's got one awkward day where whereas to explain well, I guess it really wasn't about my health and these opportunities don't along every day. Yeah. You, but maybe you get your health in order. Maybe you start to feel better. I don't know southern California can make you feel a whole lot better self. Ben might be a little tougher with the weather there, but southern California. Yeah. Phone I'm on a USC football website. And they list the coaching staff and the players and clip Kingsbury still not list on the coaching staff on their website yet. Do you think the media guy? They've the website guy said, you know, what I'm not gonna waste ten minutes. Posting his picture and bio until it's all act up. I don't know. I I, you know, I think it's a great hire. Although I was told that, you know, kings, berries, you know, his style of offense it doesn't fit in with USC with what they wanna do. Or who they are. Remember, they were always they were running the football. Now, they they had great offensive lineman. Great running backs there. And then the quarterback kinda complimented the running game college. Football's changed now. And you got to you know, talented quarterback and Daniels, and you usually get more key guys. But you know, is that what you want to be do you wanna be wide open? Like, Texas Tech was and that was where I was told by source. They were surprised that Kingsbury was hired at USC. I we'll come back. More phone calls best and worst of the weekend. We'll give you our best of the weekend right after this. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors. And all of you, great listeners for supporting this podcast. We certainly couldn't do without either of you. And I. I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page at podcast one dot com. Clicking on the support this podcast button. 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So it just worked out that way. You know, Seattle could have done that with Russell Wilson and had a backup quarterback who was making a lot of money. But this is the situation here. I mean, this is unique. This is amazing. I go back to Earl moral and Bob greasy with the dolphins. Craig Morton and Roger Staubach. Hostetler in SIMS a little bit. But but you've had what thighs men in sunny Jorgensen with the Redskins. Yeah. Mclovin with the dolphins platooning with Woodley and struck at one point. Yeah. But those, but they weren't making money, and they weren't more key qualifies. Just. Yeah. I'm just talking about like back in Craig Morton, you know, they they were both above that. Well, Roger, obviously. But Craig Morton was a good quarterback. How did Sabat not have the job? I have no idea. One of those where you go. I think Roger's better than him. But you would have to quarterbacks in there. So it's unique what's happening with the eagles. And I just think the demeanor of Nick foles, I don't think Nick foles is a you can count on him in the regular season for sixteen games. But in the postseason he has demeanor about him that fits it's more playoff ready than most quarterbacks. I mean, he's he's not flustered by anything. They really isn't. Now, I'd love to see Z K G. I wonder what his blood pressure is. Yeah. For two and not that the rest of the team's not conference around Carson Wentz. But knowing that he's already done what he just did last year, and the whole mystique, you gotta feel good about going into the huddle with this guy knowing that he already did accomplish something amazing angle all the way to and beat New England Nick foles three and a when trailing in the second half over the last two postseasons all the other quarterbacks or combined four and fifteen. Pretty amazing. And Nick foles last night. I had all the confidence in the world that he was going to score. Touchdown. I did just like he just is built for those moments. I don't know, you know, you had that amazing season with chip Kelly, and then nearly quit football. I know he's only thirty. But you know, if I'm Jacksonville, and I got a guy that I can get who has that demeanor. Who the you know, the defense is going to look at with respect because Bortles won't be back. And that he's going to cost you a lot. He every time he plays. He's costing you more. If you're going to trade for now, let's see how he plays against the saints. But it's pretty amazing. What he's been able to do. Fritzy best and worst of the weekend. Best of the weekend. I'm going to go off the Football Board for this one. I'm going with the Greek freak selling night at home against the raptors top teams in the Eastern Conference forty three points, eighteen boards for cysts. So I thought that was pretty impressive. What he? Pulled off against the Toronto worst of the weekend. Gotta go Texas, Texas, no show at home against the colts looking forward to exciting start to the wildcard playoffs, and they just lay a complete egg in a boring. Brutal game. Mclovin best. I'm going to go with the chargers. Belvin ingram. He was on fire unstoppable. The worst was that one series at the Goldline where the chargers kept scoring or not scoring and they went to replay it took like twenty minutes. And eventually the chargers scored a touchdown. You know, really bizarre. And then the ravens could have had the return the fumble return for a touchdown there. Paulie best and worst Marlin MAC the colts running back really sneaky great player. Twenty four carries one forty eight against the Houston defense. And then Dan big shocker. You didn't see this one coming North Dakota state one the one AA FCS title again eastern stick the quarterback with a great day eastern stick. He's thirty six and two in his career in the regular season thirteen and one in the playoffs. Forty nine wins is FCS quarterback restaurant record any as a great name. And he's a great runner. Yeah. Yeah. Seton o'connor? My best of the weekend is if you saw on Saturday night, Steph curry got called for a travel for doing James harden step back and after they whistle. He's walking up to the official holding up a one and a three shaking his head. Like, no, no, no. No. No. No, no. You can't you don't call that on him. You can't call that on me James Harden's number put up the one in the three. It was only a matter of time before that started coming right? Yeah. My even more best are actually is just the continuing education that the NFL brings you about its own game. Every every week this weekend. I heard the expression the reason this play was no good was because they broke the receivers restraining line. What the hell is that? It's amazing and how do you fix if you break the receivers restraining line? And I liked that. Even now the announcers are even being like more vocal of Gus. So that's the problem there. Let's bring in the rules analyst. Yeah. Even they have no idea. What's going on? Yeah. Michael's little incredulous last night. They just making this up as they go along outta than sensors that he doesn't is great. I loved it. Yeah. That the onsite the onside kick is done, right. Now, it's down to what four percent it's done. The kickoff is all four games this weekend. You get excited. It's the opening kick off it's you know, football playoff touchback, all four. It just did. Go there and kill kneeling. We'll take. After this message from buffalo. Don't you? Did it did? Did it coughs done now? Onside kicks done. Go to Rocco dot com. All the parts your car will ever need Ronco dot com. Family business. 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