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"bob fosse" Discussed on Classic Movie Musts

Classic Movie Musts

03:01 min | Last month

"bob fosse" Discussed on Classic Movie Musts

"A huge attributing factor too. What makes how to succeed in business without really trying. So wonderful is what bob fosse brought to to the theatrical version of it and he gets a a a strange credit in the film which i think it's a musical staging by and that is from what i've read because originally on broadway for the excuse me on broadway. The a choreographer was hired because of a particularly enigmatic number and quickly enough it was discovered that that was all he had up his sleeves. And bob fosse was brought in and bob fosse being actually quite generous said. I don't wanna take this credit away from him and kind of stomp on his potential career. So i will take this other lesser credit. But it's bob fosse. That does the interesting choreography. And to your point about editing from what we know about bob. Fosse's films that he actually directs and edits. The editing is out of this world so we almost get this fascinating mixed bag in this film or we get some of those. Bob fosse moves that are taken to a whole different stratosphere when combined with bob fosse's editing so we get the moves but we don't get the editing and so it's just not quite bob fossey but oh my god. Can you imagine if it was. Bob fosse and bar listeners of apparently one of the great numbers which was fully filmed and in the original release Coffee break anybody. Who knows the score for have succeed in business without retrying knows that coffee break is one of the great numbers. It's cut from the movie and it was cut solely for the reason that the premiere at radio city music hall and radio city music hall had very strict standards about time and kind of the last minute. They said david swift. You've got you've got to cut something. And and he. I think incorrectly said to himself in terms of the narrative. I don't need coffee break And none of the principals is involved. You coffee break. So i'm gonna cut it. And then when they release the dvd they were gonna put it back in and the footage was lost. One it's one of the. There's a treasure out there somewhere. Maybe maybe the footage isn't entirely lost. I give anything anything to see. The choreography the fossey brings to coffee break. Because he said elsewhere the two pieces in this show that he was proudest of were coffee break and a secretary and obviously we secretary is not a toy is such a wonderful number in this film. We'll get to that but.

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Here's What We're Watching During Quarantine

Filmspotting

05:38 min | 1 year ago

Here's What We're Watching During Quarantine

"I've had for years box. Dvd set that celebrates the Chicago Bulls six championships in the nineteen nineties. The title is NBA Dynasty Series Chicago Bulls Real quick takeaways couple takeaways Scottie. Pippen totally underrated. I I mean. I know he's considered a legend and one of the top fifty basketball players all time. But but he's even better than that as far as the goat discussion. Greatest of all time between Jordan and Lebron James. All right I conceded. I think it was a year or so ago that Lebron has probably taken that title. I'm more than willing to be argued that I'm more than willing to be argued wrong as a Chicagoan but one thing is for sure after going through some of these. Dvd's Jordan is so much more fun to watch. I mean he just. He spent so much time doing beautiful things. High up in the air way above Lebron's had would have been so That's just a blast to watch now. You can't this is kind of a sneaky. Pick you can't stream this. Dvd set so. I'll take this occasion as an excuse to mentioned that. Espn's ten part Michael Jordan Doc. The last eight they move that up it was gonNA come out on June nineteenth. Yup the release date is April nineteenth. So obviously I can't wait for that listeners. I can maybe loan you my bulls box set because it isn't streaming but otherwise just look for the last dance this weekend on ESPN. I will be watching it. Yeah I have not seen the set that you are watching but I cannot wait for Sunday night. When the ten part doc starts it's been this mythical thing that's been rumored to be in production or potentially production for some time new house coming out and ESPN wisely bumping that up. I think it's something that a lot of people just like us are going to be watching my number three these fall under the category of blind spots and in this case there is a specific hook to Josh. Though it wasn't by design all explain it's my unofficial slash official. Bruce SURTEES MARATHON. So one day. I realize I'm kind of running out of options in terms of things that are really hooking me on net flicks and I know that there are some things I should get to real cinematic blind spots that have been mentioned on the show over the years that I feel regret about but they just seem heavy. I'm not ready for it yet. I need stuff. That's under two hours. I can knock it out and I needed to be reasonably entertaining but I do still WanNa feel like I'm getting some homework done. I do still want to feel like I've crossed something off my list that I felt for some time that I needed to get to so I went over to Amazon prime. And one of the things that popped up happen to be dirty Harry the first dirty Harry movie with Clint. Eastwood Don Siegel directed and right away. I realized how stylishly shot it was and so after I watched it I looked up who the DP was and I see that. It's Bruce Surtees. I think yeah I know that name. I can't really tell you what else he's done. I don't know much about his history's legacy at all but that is a name I have heard and oh I'll just file that away okay. So what's next? Couple of days later I go back to prime one of the film's POPs up. Lennie the Bob. Fosse directed film about Lenny. Bruce and that really is one for me. I've always been ashamed because I adore. Is You know all that jazz. Fosse's film I like cabaret quite a bit as well and in the TV series Fossey Verdon some of the making of Lenny POPs up in that TV series it. Of course POPs up in all that jazz as well. A lot of cutting to scenes of the fosse alter Ego Joe Gideon cutting the movie. That would become lenny so it was kind of just been a joke for me that I've never watched this film. I decide I'm going to sit. And Watch Lenny and. I'm watching the credits. And whose name POPs up is responsible for the Black and white cinematography. It's Bruce Thirty so then decide okay. Well this is just too convenient too much of a coincidence. We're going to make this happen and I'll give you just a little bit of background on him. Is He a name? That's familiar to you at all Josh. Young familiar with the name. I don't think I would have been able to identify any of his movies though right so he got his start as a camera. Operator working with Don Siegel and especially on Siegel and Clint Eastwood Films in the late. Nineteen sixty so movies like two mules for sister Sarah and Cubans Bluff and then his first role as a cinematographer. As the director of photography was Nineteen. Seventy-one it was the beguiled so that Seagal Directing Eastwood and then play misty for me followed that where he was working with eastward again but this time Eastwood as director that was his debut he died in twenty twelve and if you look at his. Imdb the early two thousands in the nineties were not good to surtees out of maybe twenty. Titles there's not one that really stands out as essential viewing and even at the end of the eighties. The decade closed for surtees with rat boy back to the beach and licensed to drive in the eighties for him was otherwise filled with a lot of eastwood's stuff prior to that so movies like Fire Fox and tight rope and sudden impact even honky. Tonk man his heyday really was the nineteen seventies which brought me to night moves. This is an Arthur Penn. Early Bleak Neo Noir starring Gene Hackman as a former football player turned disillusioned private. I would other type of private. I is there in the seventies and it's all set within the movie business so it's reflexive to in the mode of Altman's the long goodbye and then the one I most recently watched was another Eastwood blindspot. Which is Pale writer?

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"bob fosse" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

02:03 min | 1 year ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on KCRW

"Know if Bob Fosse like Mike doesn't just accept this ridiculous idea he doubles down on it he decides to add for sexy female dancers thank low rent American spice girls and he sticks top forty tunes from Madonna and Paula Abdul inexplicably into the middle of the show the play will stop the songs will start and the girls will thanks yes I just feel like with all the strange request from a market making I can't make this show good so I might as well make it really bad you know have you ever directed a musical with dancing and so in order to compromise everything he believes and to do something he was utterly unqualified to do Mike comes up with a fantastic rationalization he will turn this massive artistic mistake into his greatest artistic achievement I'm like what if what if we make a documentary about this thing and then the saying yes becomes sort of doubly amazing because whatever happens is going to be interesting for the film so even if something horrible had even if the place horrible even if you know whatever it strange things occur it's going to be good for the film so I started to develop this mantra in my head bad is good that is good bad play good film bad experience in India good for the film instead of hiring a stage manager Mike hires our mutual friend to film everything that happens on the trip with a massive borrowed video camera then he casts his production the two leads to start learning their lines in their songs in the dancer start practicing their Madonna dances so what is the trip I don't really know I've got a vague date as to when we're leaving and coming back in three cities that suppose we were traveling in that's it that's all I know I any any even that you know that's the word.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

02:20 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on KGO 810

"Nineteen thirty nine Mr Smith goes to Washington, the wizard of Oz stage coach and gone with the wind along with other movies. I hadn't heard of, but that's a pretty good line-ups pretty strong. Yeah. Pretty they've stood the test of time Jack. That's a real measure of art. Isn't it and some others have planted their flag on nineteen seventy nine? British here ever with Apocalypse Now Ernest goes to the disco Mad Max being there all that jazz, the jerk in laws the in laws, which is a great movie life O'Brien. It's cetera Chirc life of Brian. That's a good one. I will always remember all that jazz. Because my girlfriend at the time and her mother and her grandmother, went to it, because it was about Bob Fosse the choreographer, and they thought that sounded wonderful. Well, it is constant nudity, and sexual messages. And grandmother, who was like arch conservative among grandmothers, just came home, sputtering about this part of a, why would you bring me goofy maybe cost quite a rift in the house? We wanna know about the movie, all that jazz took a film class, in college in this major thesis, the biggest deal of all was watching this movie and breaking it down with, like fifty pages of description, and I sense that there is some resentment that remains. This is the first of all right. It's got all the new to the and it's not like a it's not a mainstream movie. It certainly wasn't then. Right. It's wacky, and this is the teacher that. The naked picture of his girlfriend on his desk. Gas film teacher. Wow. Beautiful. He was like sixty and his girlfriend was like twenty five and he had a naked picture of her on his desk actually short us showed us porn, one time to, to illustrate lighting ho, boy, a whole difference between like hustler and playboy style whiting, but he used pornography or that would be alliterative, but I think you could probably find a defense. I think he had a thing. Yeah. He clearly had probably wouldn't have worked in today's age, you know, the nudity and all that jazz was the only reason I could put up with it. I didn't mention that to granny at the time. But anyway, what critics now decided is the greatest movie ever for movies, and this year this year, this really worked out for me. Because I was in prime moviegoing part of my life child all that sorta stuff nineteen ninety nine lead. Wow..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Almost 30 Podcast

Almost 30 Podcast

04:24 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Almost 30 Podcast

"You know, touching anybody know like just know interacting really with anyone and everyone followed the damn rules. When you're on the medicine you follow the rules. It's crazy. So after that little Powell we sit and and they call us up for rapid which is. Which is a powder tobacco. And they shoot it up your nose. They literally shoot it up your nose. It feels like. It feels like the first time I took a head of a cigarette, and I got really lightheaded and wanted to vomit. So there's that. And so I was completely overwhelmed. My sinuses were burning. I was like, oh, hell no, hell, no. I like I wanted to faint. So I I sat down on my bed stood sit sat up tall and just meditated and got quiet. And then they performed the blessing on the broo- so blessing on on Iowa, the Iowa ska the plant medicine, and it was just so beautiful, man. These shamans like I have to say, and we saw it every night. No matter what shaman shamans were leading the ceremony lake. The dedication the love the intention. They have for every ceremony. This work is just so intense. And it was overwhelming got us. Got me emotional many of the nights, and they don't get paid a lot. You know, this isn't this isn't like a job you go into or a practice you go into a. To to make money and. I was just in complete all so. Yeah. Again, had never done it any psychedelic. So they call us up for the first drink, and again, I'm scared and the poor the Iowa's go, which is like this dark syrupy liquid into a shock class. So I know a shock loss, and I know I can shoot shit back and. And it doesn't taste good tastes like dirt. It's a little bit thick for my liking. But I did it and I kept it down. So after you take be glass after they bless it. And after you whisper your intention into the glass, I shot it back, and I sat down on my bed stood up sat up tall. So that you know, the medicine stayed in my belly. Because if I laid back, I was worried that I was gonna wanna get sick. And and you know, then the medicine would not work. So I was like spitting a little bit into the bucket, and then I calmed down. And I just thought there for like thirty thirty five minutes, you know, complete silence really really really still, and then once everyone had gotten their drink that was about, you know, about time, and I I lay back down, and I just got really cozy and covered myself with the blanket, and I fell asleep. And that's that that was my experience. No, I fell asleep for a little bit. And I didn't know what what what to expect. I didn't know what to look for like I had never tripped before. So I'm like no fucking clue. What's supposed to be happening? So I opened my eyes. I woke up at one point. And and I started to lake I was like looking at my hands. And if you watch the video on YouTube like you could see what what's doing? It's I kind of felt like Bob Fosse knows like looking at my hands, and like making these like cool movements, and I was realizing I'm like, oh like my hands looked so different. It looked like I had like these like, latex gloves on my hands kind of a latex covering so you couldn't see any wrinkles or lines on my hands. Never just so smooth. And my first thought was like, oh my God. Like, I didn't realize like my hands were this young looking. And then like, I looked pass my hands on I saw on the ceiling like this grid like a neon grid was like, oh, this is crazy like rid Mia really goes for it at night and makes this place feeling look like a club. Like, I honestly didn't realize that this was part of the trip until the shamans started singing, so. At some point in all this era. Money's the shaman saying, and it's the most beautiful beautiful music. You've ever heard in your life..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Extra Hot Great

Extra Hot Great

04:15 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Extra Hot Great

"Treat a drug problem with Mafa don'- clinics. Number four. Vacuum cleaner is heartbroken. When bowling ball goes missing. So he leaves the house to look for him. But he's injured on the journey and the family rose Flintstones the Flintstones adding new weird. ID creator of snuggle up top earlier. Like, anything snuggle? But I did read the flu sills convicts actually, pretty good. Seidl war. Yes. So Fred and Barney are like. They're like the Flintstones are like the first modern humans, and they're still fighting a war against the enter tolls. Oh, my basically, they basically like the they have post traumatic stress syndrome because there are basically the whole race. Yeah. And the whole storyline vacuum cleaner in the bowling ball is like super sad. It's it's a real weird. Take on this on the flute. So I'm gonna speak said I was up like four to nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Last hint was the great gazoo comes to town is disgusted by the consumerism. He's encounters, and they go to tribunal into decide whether or not or will be destroyed that's his role in the coma. But for now. Valued guess Lale, Adam pulls out for a value. Guess that means. Ceases in a row. Guess what an end to this season and Syria came so close so. You really did the historic choke joss. But enough about Bob Fosse. All right, guys. That is for another episode. Extra great. What's happening rebuilt? It out. Our opinions on Fossey Verdon before going around the dial where Tara gave a mortem on killing second season opener. Adam saying the praises of crazy ex girlfriend. Sarah, didn't forget dimension, the unforgotten and Dave fought the good fight or warrior. We inducted into the extra hungry crowd winners and losers of the weekend. Adam swept the day and swept the season. He wins gametime on behalf of value. Guests new season starting sue re member. I am David tickle, and I'll be half of tar area. No bird. Sarah, d bunting taco and Adam gross. What was that? Thing everyone next time right here. Extra. You realize only once you've allowed yourself to be entertained by a monster. Oh, gosh relations. Oh, yeah. Thank you for being so kind with my under the buzzer answers. Yeah. I had it rigged the cigarette smoking as long as I live cerebral win. Stairs, gut losing all wrapped up without your health. Trust me..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

01:48 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on KCRW

"Bob Fosse was one of my tick heroes until I saw this many. You're welcome. But I think it's important to understand not just how much Gwen Verdon was a part of his success, and what is still hailed as genius. But forgive me, what a what an utter ASI was. This this kind of behavior that was accepted, and is now been brought to light over these these last few years felt like a conversation. We wanted to be a part of this felt like an opportunity to take this kind of behavior out of the darkness and keep it in the light. And having a coal Fossey. The the one the one child of Bob and Gwen was an enormous resource and assets, she's a producer on the show. She was involved in the smallest things in the largest things from what somebody might be wearing to how we were going to reconstruct these dances with real specificity and authentic and it felt like she was providing a so much insight into Gwynn's life. And I think gave us a lot of confidence to to examine the darkest places because she felt it was necessary. And essential just like we did. Did Gwen Verdon just tolerate too much from Bob Fosse? What I know is the two of them found something each other. They couldn't find anywhere else. Gwen was someone who was a survivor, and she was a fighter too just as ambitious as profoundly talented as Bob was. This was someone when she did a show called new girl in town the late fifties. She took to bed one time. This isn't a Watson book because Bob was being mistreated. And so she in protest stepped out of the show, and they had to bring in four people to play her part for people.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:51 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Com and the listeners and members of Kiwi d. Rainshowers expected to become more isolated overnight before the next front arrives early Saturday morning. In the meantime, cloudy chance of showers today and tonight showers will once again decreased by Saturday afternoon rain chances may linger across the far north bay on Sunday. This is fresh air. I'm TV critic David being Cooley sitting in for Terry gross today show is dominated by song and dance. I up will listen back to an archive interview with Gwen Verdon, the Broadway, actress and dancer who electrified audiences in everything from cancan and Damn Yankees to Chicago along with one of her husband's choreographer and film director, Bob Fosse. She's the subject of a new FX miniseries called Fosse Verdon which premieres next Tuesday. Let's begin with my review of f X's Fosse Verdon. If you're a musical theater fan. Just the title Fosse version is enough to make this new FX miniseries. One of the most exciting TV prospects of the year. Gwen Verdon who originated the onstage characters of Lola in Damn Yankees and Roxie Hart in Chicago was one of the best dancers on Broadway. Bob, Fosse's particular style as both choreographer and movie director was dazzlingly different and captured in such films as cabaret still crackles with energy, this eight part drama sets out to tell how they met collaborated fell in love got married and had a daughter, but that's only part of the story which is about a relationship that keeps going long after the marriage has been dissolved. Two of the executive producers of Fossey verdict should be noted at the start one is Nicole Fosse the real life daughter of Bob Fosse, Gwen Verdon, another is Lin Manuel. Miranda who's Broadway.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

04:43 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Of Bob Fosse, Gwen Verdon, another is Lin Manuel. Miranda who's Broadway success with Hamilton has been nothing. Short of phenomenal. His presence alone suggests that the musical numbers recreated here will be done with precision and reverence and they are and while her presence dictates that this biography of a parent is authorized it is not an entirely flattering portrayal of either of them the portrayals. However are so good. It's almost a relief. Gwen Verdon is played by Michelle Williams, who's come a long way from the WBZ Dawson's creek. And she was good. Even there in Manchester by the sea Brokeback mountain and my week with Marilyn she shown her versatility and sensitivity. And when I saw her take a turn starring in the recent Broadway revival of cabaret. She was one of the best sallies. I saw at the round. About theater, and I saw them all and speaking of versatility. Bob Fosse is played by Sam Rockwell who's done terrific work in everything from confessions of dangerous mind and galaxy quest to three billboards outside ebbing, Missouri. In Fosse Verdon these to inhabit their roles, completely and convincingly. The story isn't rolled out sequentially. It starts with the filming of sweet charity and keeps hopping backwards and forwards revealing bits of their past a scene at a time. So I'm not doing any spoiling here by presenting a scene from one after the couple separated, but still seeking support and advice from each other. He visits her after a day working on the movie cavalry. And she welcomes him warmly at first but not for long. Any worries about this drama taking a too easy on the characters are instantly, alleviate cut of the movie? What's wrong with the move? Oh, just to do things. Numbers of flat story doesn't make. There is no story. What is the story? I'm gonna see if they'll let me reassure the whole thing you think spring for. Felt the same way up. You saw the first cut of Jared. You know, so well, I was thinking maybe you could come to the editing room for few weeks. You know, and maybe see some things that I don't see a little lost. And why not? Didn't I tell you? I found a play. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be in rehearsals. Play. Straight plane. Yes. So it's called childrens children to throw a brand new, right? It's a terrific part in the place. Yes phenomenal. Well, that's congratulations. When do you start now is setting up a meeting with the director? I I just wanna make sure we have a good reform. You can start with trust difficult role. You're gonna hate it. I don't know why he would say that to me. And was the last time you act. Now when he walked in the door. How do I do? Very funny FX has made half of Fossey Verdon available for preview that's enough to recommend it highly. But not quite enough to allow for the rendering of a final verdict. I really like that it makes room for some of Fossey's famous friends like Neil, Simon and Patty Tchaikovsky played respectively by cordray and Norbert, Leo Butz. And while I'm intrigued by others. Like, Margaret qualley is an Ryan king. I need to see more to see how this all plays out. That's because Fossey Verdon written and directed by tag team of other producers and executive producers, including Thomas. Gale Stephen Levinson, Joel fields, and Charlotte stout is all over the place emotionally and artistically it recreates scenes from classic stage shows and movies while framing them within a frenetic sometimes fantasy narrative, that's exactly what Bob Fosse himself did while directing the nineteen Seventy-nine movie all that jazz, which was his barely fictionalized story of his own physical breakdown while juggling work on several similar tina's projects this FX series is in Justin. Oh, Majd all that jazz. It plays almost like an expanded director's cut with verdicts half of the story, given equal prominence, but the difference is Bob Fosse's, all that jazz was all Bob, Fosse's vision and voice, and I know how he ended all that jazz boldly and brilliantly with Fosse Verdon. I still haven't seen any. From the Chicago musical or anything else. From the later years yet. I'm very eager to see what Fossey Verdon presents in its second half. Because the first handful of episodes like the musical numbers. They recreate are surging with creativity and excitement, it's Showtime..

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Through the eyes of Annie Leibovitz

The Frame

07:42 min | 2 years ago

Through the eyes of Annie Leibovitz

"From the Mon broadcast center at KP. See see this is the frame, I'm John horn on today's show what the cancellation of Pearvel shows on Netflix might mean for the future of the TV business then from antiwar demonstrations to Arnold Schwarzenegger, riding horseback. Any Vits has photographed at all we walked through a new exhibit of her early work was not a good photojournaling. So I was going to have to tell more my story from my point of view and left journalism behind eventually turned to portraiture because it was a way of having real licensed to do what you wanted in a photograph and the country swing band asleep at the wheel is still rolling along fifty years after its founding all that coming up on the frame. With so many new players jumping into the streaming game including Disney, apple and Warner media. Twenty nineteen is likely to bring some big changes to the TV business. We called up Daniel Feinberg a TV critic for the Hollywood reporter to talk about what the future could look like to TV viewers. He's just finished covering two weeks of presentations from broadcast networks cable channels and streaming services at the television critics association meetings. We started with the news from earlier this week that net flicks. His canceling Jessica Jones and the punisher to marvel shows which not coincidentally are also Disney properties. There is no question that we are on the brink of some sort of key transition point. And regardless of what you choose to call it, whether you want to call it these streaming wars or the road to new cable, or whatever you wanted describe it as there are things that are changing that are going to dramatically reshape what the media landscape look. In five years in the same way that five years ago, it looked completely different. And I think that there's no question that the cancellation of the marvel shows on Netflix is a. Assign a gesture in a certain direction because these were very high profile shows for Netflix when they premiered and they were part of a big programming strategy. And now, suddenly all of the marvel properties are really part of aid Disney, plus or a Disney marvel streaming strategy, and so they don't fit with Netflix anymore. And I think that you're gonna see something with the tug of war over something like friends, I think that we are only at the beginning of what is going to be probably the biggest story in where television is going in the next year and a half probably. And that is basically that the people who create those shows used to see companies like Netflix as a source of ancillary revenue and now they see streaming services as direct competitors. So they're trying to pull their content back at their launching their own streaming services. Is that the bigger picture here? I think that is definitely the bigger picture. And all of the things that the Netflix and Hulu have kind of taken for granted as the foundation of their. Business model, you know, the for whatever we want to say about the apparently twelve billion dollars that Netflix last year poured into original programming acquired content is still a major portion of what people actually stream on Netflix. Whether it's whether it's friends, whether it's the office, whether it's all of the CW shows, and that's great for Netflix because it allows net flicks to have that kind of foundation, but it, but it's also a business that the people who actually own those programs want to be in. And so is Netflix original programming is it enough if suddenly the studio start taking away all of their prestige programs. Yeah. I don't know. Let's talk about a couple of new programs one that's on Netflix. It's called Russian doll and one on Hulu called Penn. Fifteen. These are shows that seem to be getting a lot of attention. Are they worth checking out? And how are they doing so far? I think they're absolutely were checking out, and I think we had absolutely no idea how either one of them is doing. Let's look says not put out a press release boasting that forty million people in some form or another have watched Russian doll. So I don't know all I know is that it's a really good show. It's a really smart show. It's a show that plays around with with format and with tone, and with style in very impressive ways. So Russian dolls. Definitely we're checking out, and I think Penn fifteen on Hulu is is a lot of fun to gimmick is the two co creators are basically playing junior high versions of themselves. Devil dis her last night at camp. How was even possible? I don't know what happened in the middle of her sleep. That's so unfair that happens to me surrounded by actual preteen and teen actors, and it's it's a really good show about the awkwardness of being a teenager. That's maybe aimed at older viewers who survived those years. I wanna talk about a couple of other shows that might be worth talking about FOX has a series called proven innocent pop has a series called flack and DC universe has a series called doom patrol or any of those shows are other things that you've seen jumping out in terms of midseason or early start shows that are coming out either. Now, or very soon one of the shows that if you've watched any BC in the past couple of weeks, and you're going to see as we move towards the Oscars this weekend that is getting a lot of buzz for ABC as whiskey cavalier whiskey cavalier. One of our best agents. I intelligence proven to be a huge asset to the bureau. You and your fiance recently parted ways. Yes, we did mutual most commercial, but I'm totally fine with it. We have the footage. How? It's a show that I would say succeeds at its goals, and that's something that I wouldn't necessarily say about say proven innocent, which is a very very run of the mill entirely forgettable legal procedural at the very least whiskey cavalier is pretty people Scott fully and learn Cohen or the stars are attractive and fun. And they're having a good time. It was shot in Europe. And it makes actual good use of European locations. It's got all of the depth of a very very shallow puddle. But on the other hand, it's fun. And it's the same with with DC universe is doomed patrol, which is kind of quirky kind of odd and of vast improvement over DC universe's, I live action show which was titans, which was all gloomy and glum and unpleasant. So there's something to be said for improvement one of the other things that happens at the as is that critics get sneak peeks, maybe it's some footage. Maybe it's a pilot of a show. That's not going to be on for a couple of months. Is there anything that you and your colleagues? Saw that might not be coming out immediately. But that you're really interested in seeing what more there is the series. Well, I definitely can't review. The one episode I've seen of FX Fosse Verdon, but I can tell you that that show which starts Sam Rockwell, and Michelle Williams is definitely going to be worth one that I'm looking forward to checking out. It's the story of Bob Fosse, Gwen Verdon. And so there's a lot of fifty sixty seventies cinematic, and Broadway and musical references and dancing and choreography. And I'm not gonna say anything more than I'm looking forward to seeing more episodes. Daniel Feinberg is a TV critic for the Hollywood reporter. He is also the president of the television critics association Daniel, thanks for your time and your insight. Thank you for having me. Coming up on the frame, any leave of its walks through an exhibit of her early work.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

03:41 min | 2 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

"I have no idea. Well, I can't tell if you're kidding. Or not because I believe blossomed best friend was six. I don't know. I don't know the answer. In west Philadelphia. I wanted to add something about being thrown out of a door in there. But. I thought my NBC sitcom friends, we're going to get that one with an art. Awful don't feel being by self up about yourself up about it. Rush. Principal air. It's also debatable. Whether or not the best friends, but they're definitely best friends in real life. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I mean, it's not that far off. You're not that far. Question two, what nineteen Seventy-nine movie is essentially an autobiography of its director. Bob Fosse that is all that jazz. That is all that jazz. Apparently, it's ROY Scheider who plays him which I just can't see after jaws. Yeah. No. I can see ROY Scheider is as Fossey. Yeah. It's the glasses and the sharp features kind of confused. Bob Fosse in Bob macky. Oh, yeah. It's understandable. Just feather. I find if I knew anything about Bob macky, it might be. I'd make that distinction to he's the one who did all of shares costumes through the sixties and seventies and eighties. Yeah. Wow. Bob macky. I just remember that from mill house. Question. Three jazz hands is a claim several times by Dr Krieger after his character watched the wiz on both stage and screen. What FX adult cartoon features the character. Dr Krieger Archer that is Archer. Okay. Trying to I was trying to cope with the line. But had nothing. It's all right. It's all right. Question. Four the Utah Jazz are an NBA team, which as you can probably tell from their name not originate in Utah. What southern city was their original home. Yeah. New orleans. It is New Orleans. Yes. I remember a couple years ago when I was like, you know, studying up for TV game shows or earn. What not like writing down all the names of all of the teams everywhere. Okay. Okay. Minnesota. Okay. This and then I was like the New Orleans pelicans. If you would've said for one hundred dollars, they're professional sporting team in the United States named the pelicans. Yeah. I would not have gotten. No, absolutely not. No, it doesn't make sense. At least that one's will. Because the pelican is the official state Erta, Louisiana. Oh, I guess that makes sense. There you go. Closer to scare to go play the pellet rate. So this one I'm never going to forget because ever seen the movie baseball. No, I haven't it's it has its moments, but the very they talk about professional sports teams moving from city to city in the introduction. And it's great actor named Stephen mcadoo who you've seen in other places giving the speech, and he starts saying the Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where they have no lakes and the New Orleans and the New Orleans jazz move to Utah where they don't allow. That's very true purpose. That's how I remember that one. All right question. Five jazz was the call sign of a traitor in the wing commander series space, light games. And I wanted to write a question about those games because I play them a lot and they're great..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on The Director's Cut

The Director's Cut

03:35 min | 3 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on The Director's Cut

"Wow. Wow. I you're saying like, my hero Stanley Donen, you know. This. Honestly, I first of all I will say thank you for saying what you said about feeling like a child because that honestly, honestly is the message of the film so to be able to look at life throw child's eyes. And I know it was my guiding force making this entire movie was I felt it's something I needed. Now. This current climate of our lives. I just felt like we needed to have that injection of hope and a child like sensibility in our lives of some joy. So that was really calling for me, and I will say when you mentioned Stanley Donen or. He's a hero because he was a choreographer director as Bob Fosse, these these this is sort of the my heroes. You know, started in theater and moved into film and television. And and I will say this was a gift for me in a way because to be able to do an original musical for me something that I've always wanted to do you don't those opportunities. Just don't come up like you said around. They just don't. And so the fact that we were following in the footsteps of Mary Poppins, and Disney sort of gave me that I felt like in a way a carte blanche. Which I couldn't believe to go do this. I felt so. I felt like I needed to honor that, you know, an honor the predecessors of a that have made me. And so, and so I really through every bit of love, and you know, heart I had into every frame of the film. I have one more question. And then we'll ask your last one. But. Sicher complicated movie. I've been involved in complicated movies and very often. You know, you learn something once you put it together. And so now, I'm kind of curious because the preparation the months, and and and the and the the work shopping and so forth. Did you still find that? And once you were through it that you needed to go back and do a couple of weeks, you know, or trying new song or anything else or or did did you? Did you get it? Did you get it the first time through you know, what I we had a very we had like I think a day and a half of additional photogr all it was so small only because I felt I needed to do all that prep work up front. And and really test the material. And that's when I so I did it before. Because also, you know, are are, you know, it was it was a big budget for most films, but for this film. Actually, it wasn't. It's interesting. So I found myself when I first landed in London having a Cup forty million out of the budget. So I think our budget was like one hundred thirty, but but when you're working at the scale with this amount of people know, captions, etc. It's it's it's still does it still. So I so I felt I said do it all now and the truth is there's nothing on the cutting room floor. Yeah. There's like one little tiny. Thank it. Nothing. Nothing. Ask question. It's all a lot of fear. Fear and terror. Over got chills. Thank that's, so lovely. Thank you so much. Thanks, everybody. That was an thank you, Ron. You're amazing. Thanks for listening to another DJ QNA if you'd like to hear more you can find past episodes of the director's cut wherever.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on High and Mighty

High and Mighty

05:06 min | 3 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on High and Mighty

"Very old on how are you liking it? Have you read it before? Or now, I have it's the same copy. I read like twenty years ago. Oh, that's wild. That's been fun. Did you write notes to yourself on the margin? I didn't I should do. Years from now when you take very good care of my books. One. Takeaway, did I say you said something that sounded old earlier because I think. Take care of your books is the new oldest. Dying. Art, isn't it? I must say I take pretty good care of my. He's been talking like that for. No, he's just put him out on the porch. Every passer-by. Great job. What about you? John. I'm reading the latest biography on Bob Fosse and loving it. Wow. Is there anything else you could possibly learn about hyperbolic? No, not too much. Pretty much like the sex out heard it. That's awesome. I just read a book finished it finally recommended me. I read the first book of the broken earth series. I read. Very enjoyable, though is a real I didn't. I don't wanna spoil anything. He just finished it. I know. Oh, you've only read the first one. I just bought the next two. But that ending. I didn't he coming. Oh me neither. And when you look back on it. You're like, of course. Yeah. It makes can't say what intensively. Yeah. I think we can the movies the books we're we're going to wrap it up after this. We're gonna do some plugs. So if you structure of this if you want to read the fifth season, you can shut it off. Now, you know what I'm saying that John Mark granny follow them. Maybe we didn't. Watch. And listen everything these guys do back to okay, the structure of the fifth, the fifth element is what I said. The fifth season is like. It's crazy that it was her the whole time, right? Three different points of view through the whole you think that three different characters the whole time. Right. And it is different in different class different worlds ones. Like fantasy like castle. We're learning to be like a wizard. It's like Hogwarts the one young mourns in Hogwarts the other ones like apocalypse, pirate cove, and and the third one is in the road. Yeah. All all come together all come together. And it's like a short span of time. And it was it's been the same person. It's amazing. And then also like, they're not no same person, courtesy you think about it because they have different names different names at different points, and the most in the newest time-line, she's like in hiding which is going by fake name one time, she's like fully revealed herself. And then the as a kid, it's as she's getting her new name. She's just so great the world building simple. But like she just pulls you into ideas or like complex. Yeah. And then like they. They just added enough new stuff by the end of this book with the obelisks and the rock eaters, where you're like stone eaters, where you're like, okay. Let's figure out what this shit is incredible. Yeah. We'll talk about this more off my in front of John even more. It's more on accessible. Won the Hugo and the nebula, I think. What's this book called again? It's called the fifth season. K chancellor's great on Twitter. How long is the series of books? Which I like I've gotten into a few of these non ending trilogies now. Only like three hundred and fifty pages, and it's a good, and they're so readable. All right. There's kinky sex. Oh now, I'm interested their April. It's it's weirdly progressive like, there's maybe a trans character. And then there's. Relationship. There's guys, but I presented as perfectly normal. There's no even explanation that it's like when when you find out a characters like, yeah. I don't get for granted. It's like oh sorry. Yeah. Of course your game. I've been. While this must be extra weird for you. Based on the circumstances in which that person learned gay, okay? Now, I'm getting to. That's wrapping up always on the lookout for new good fantasy Rex so hit me up with them people. I'll be checking out some more. The black company was the one that was most recently recommended yet. What were you kissing the microphone and has an object? Yeah. I was giving you guys double cheeks. I'm fucking toast. It's definitely pass my bed. I'm feeling it. But let's let's tell people are Twitter handles here or or what anything we wanna plug. I don't have anything to plug I met Jay fly ninety nine. Are you still hosting the show at sunset? Oh, yeah..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Mental Illness Happy Hour

Mental Illness Happy Hour

04:13 min | 3 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Mental Illness Happy Hour

"It just it it, he, he couldn't show that outside of the typewriter. It was hard for for him, which is fitting of so many. Artists is through their art. They can have the voice that they long to have. Yeah, in real life because it safe one hundred percent and you can say, oh, it's my character. Our, it's this. I mean, I know you're you're an actor. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure you have experienced moments in movies where you say things that you wish you could say in real life or doing real life. Are there any that come to mind. You know, it's interesting. I I, my characters were almost a little shadowing of how I was feeling emotionally and where I was had the ability to be clear. For instance, when I did star eighty, there was a sense of victim in me a bit of a martyr. And so I played this character who was totally victim who was. Definitely trying to please people, and that's definitely where I was for most of my childhood, so it it kind of whenever I played a character, it would sort of unfold in me. That sense of this is why right now a little bit not not from like I was a method actor, but more about those were the issues that I needed to unravel can relate to this. And so I can express this authentically, yeah, did feel like that freed you up to be able to not be second guessing yourself about how to play a scene work? Tapping. Luckily when I'm when I'm in a in a project, that's really good. And people are like, excellent, you know, directors in the writing is good. Snow is helping, but when I feel that support, I never second guessed when I've been invited to join the party and step up. I don't tech and guess, and I'm very much I'm very direct -able. But if I don't have a good director, I'm no good. I'm just like it's just I feel that actors need to. I think, you know, I think acting such an interesting thing because you really do it's such a community effort, then you you, you need to have everybody, and it's it's such a, you're so exposed out there. And I, it boggles my mind how casting directors and directors cannot understand how exp- it's like, yeah, yelling at an actor onset is like yelling at somebody while they are naked in in front of a room, full of clothe people. It's it's horrible. Well, what's really interesting is so Bob Fosse star eighty. Again, I learned so much from him. He was extrordinary, but he was tough and I had heard of stories were with Marissa's baron San or something. He liked done something horrible show. On her something horrible. And I pulled him aside one day, and I said, I know who I am. And if you embarrass me yell at me, do something really horrible to me in front of other people, I will crumble, and I will shrink, you know, I will pull into myself and I won't. I won't. I won't do well for you, and I'm just, I don't know how you know Eric robbers is going to do it. I don't know how other people on some people really respond. Well, I don't. I will absolutely. I'm not asking for praise, but don't criticize me publicly because I was. So I had such fear of that anyway. So anyway, he was he was good. I was terribly worried that it's going to be really, that was it was really tough film. It was a really tough film. I when I was done, I cut my hair because I didn't want to have any relationship to that character..

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Trump's star on Hollywood Walk of Fame vandalized: police

Donna and Steve

01:40 min | 3 years ago

Trump's star on Hollywood Walk of Fame vandalized: police

"By once upon a child the Hollywood walk of fame is trending right now it appears that President Donald Trump star on. The Hollywood walk of fame was. Vandalized smash to pieces by and a pickaxe this, is not the first time it's been vandalized destroyed last October by a sledgehammer but a suspect is in. Custody according to local reports of the most recent vandalisation Michelle, Williams is trending. It sounds like she is joining Sam Rockwell and Fosse inverted inspired TV series it's her first, regular role in the TV series since Dawson's creek shell Williams and Sam Rockwell we'll play Gwen Verdon and Bob. Fosse whose relationship shaped the Broadway musical genre. And a hot highlight for equality Williams at Rockwell will be. Receiving equal pay this show is going to be a limited series on FX Dead what is trending. Eleven years after the series ended its three season. Run HBO just announced that it has green lit a. Movie that will continue the story of the lawless western outposts no. Word on when that movie will. Begin production to be released dead wood is common, that's Sheni here at my and now we'll take a quick look at your channel five eyewitness news weather. Forecast for the day we're going to have scattered thunderstorms throughout, the day but. It looks decent outside right now by the mytalk weather window high of eighty low of sixty, then tomorrow big cool down high of seventy to fifty eight mostly cloudy skies currently it's partly sunny but we. Have a chance of showers and thunderstorms in..

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"bob fosse" Discussed on The World of Phil Hendrie

The World of Phil Hendrie

03:41 min | 3 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on The World of Phil Hendrie

"They'll do vice step here one step there i'm doing a lot of bob fosse steps two and a one to what site side like that too yeah reaching from each side each side now i tore them and the cote lands my crotch going from one hand to one hand to one hand right i'm backwards on the floor then i twirl back up in the air and i do another side to side really and that's what i the brochures throw them i call them up in the air jill the women's scrambled for those that see initially they did and then they just picked it up and kind of proved it and then threw it back down on the floor so my second job i got paid and then i didn't get hired after that and the reason i'm pretty well i have been informed of this the reason was it was so like it blew everybody away that they couldn't handle how unique it was okay now i'm not saying that i was the sexiest guy in the world but the uniqueness of it combined with the newness of it did create a sexual tension i think i've heard pastor ready i've heard a pastor rennick mentioned that and now i know what he means it created a sexual tension whereby the women couldn't get the money out of the purse for i don't know okay so you're getting to the truth here and i think well no no no you're getting to the truth you're trying to come up with all kinds of reasons why the business failed didn't it i would not i'm not going to go there i'm not gonna go there all right but you're trying to come up with a bunch of reasons why it failed that have nothing to do with you it's just a circumstance saying that the business failed because it's just too weird for work it's too weird for words what's too weird for words are you going to go to bed party and just go hey give me a break imagine if i did that if you did that you clear the room you'd clear three city blocks but if you did it if i do it i'm bob green and again i'm five foot six so what here we go we got some food a couple of phone calls and who is this stay here's dave and tustin hi dave hey my wife was at penn bachelorette party that you're was that couple years ago as a matter as of fact a matter of fact okay she was at that and she said that he'll put the back of her head into anything more the described the back where head and pretend like you're trying to push her face onto your crotch that right i would not put it that way sir i will export my what i can't hear the gentlemen that music keep the music you don't mind sir if i have my dance music on as long as okay here you now you're claiming that you didn't do he says that at the at the party what i do sir is i go to each woman and at depending upon the woman all either grabbed the back of her hit it's that what you think what i what is it please explain it's it's not trying to get her to do you know i just wanted to take take a good long look at along london with your at freezer foods right that's right sir trust me when i tell you you don't wanna mess with bob green all okay all right well and your wife if she had any kind of problem with me and she could have call the police that night and i didn't have any police you know and i don't know what you call the.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Keep It!

Keep It!

02:02 min | 3 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Keep It!

"People see it because i remember i remember being the one black person in my office when bidet came out like y'all i'm telling you the dejavu video is amazing i remember like people who are by first day like i mean she's not britney like i remember the conversation in remember like she can't release think she's like a studio artist i remember this and i was just like talkative guy she's she's it she's the truce opera thing she was referencing bob fosse like who actually ended up being a visual album they will start before still pissed about the like forty five seconds of kitty cat she gave us i needed the whole thing i want more kitty cat okay can i just say something it's not controversial but i just feel like beyond say i hope you're hearing this somehow i really need like a ferrall post disco new disco albums because kitty cat goes in all of the tracks she's done for all through the years shadow mamba joe like all the way kinda my loki favorites and dig i'm lovin like black hal h town like all the traps i'm loving it but like i do like her in vanity six mode like i really like one of my favorite beyond says her destiny's child medley was i thought very impressively chosen because i think lose my breath and soldier are among the most timeless those of this yeah and the same name timbaland remix as well i was impressed a large part of her performance was honoring the history of hpc's and just what did you take away from that seeing as how you know dear white people is about you know the on college i mean i love to is like i feel i feel like we're connected in the seoul because all the imagery i mean it's it all meaningful like i.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on The Big Listen

The Big Listen

01:40 min | 4 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on The Big Listen

"What else i did i listen to listening to cereal actually which i was obviously laid to the game on that but i listen to it while i was driving around pittsburgh and then it really got me into um audible and then i started doing a lot of like uh books on tape oh and i did that i did like a while i really am going so gay on this but i saved s i did uh the bob fosse biography even sam watson rohaan audible and i did uh a couple of tales of the city on audible excellent excellent i started s town right when i left pittsburgh john built the mazes a series of splits one path comes to an end than it's what's left and right each of those pads in the may split left and right over and over again you have to choose which way to go john are walking through trying to reach the middle your designed this formula self souza's asylum led my but that's what playful hill i do feel like i'm walking around in your brain or something just imagine what it gets over your head he scouts his direction it is kinda funny to they lost and something you designed yourself isn't it oh oh we're stuck are you really lost re putting in amish lloyd lost in our own minds isn't that exciting but i only heard the first two episodes and then i haven't been in a car because i've just been writing my bike everywhere heaven and it's very unsafe to listen to headphones when you're on your bike.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

01:36 min | 4 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

"To the eighteenth century why is it happening now while it's happening now because as you said iraq and syria leton are are yes poetic yes but politics is at the incubator of religious convulsion of religious reform and upheaval and transformation i think a further aspect which i think fascinating lee provides an echo of the christian reformation is that the spike in jihadism eerily coincides with the rise of the internet and what the internet has done is to make excessive bowl in a multitude of fanatic hilas not just the koran bob fosse collections of happy since i was centrally people who as you say are not scholars but he want to justify what they do can go online and can look staff aarp and confined any ah thirty lateral any laying although we are allowing that a lot of the i would remind i agree with that that is true the definitely a can of cotton praised koran i would point out the islamophobes and jihadists have a lot in common they both kind of selectivity quote scripture would nowhere to basis and scholarship but one thing i would add to that i would go step further and so cannot true in some cases but what about the evidence which i cited at the start on on site again as as we come to a close which is a lot of these people who you're saying you know they're going online and we know about this actually not that much evidence that they are interested in the actual religious arguments unit delmore's the british think tank did a two years study of of convicted terrorists in britain and canada and they found that that not only did they have a shallow conception of islam their degree of interest quote in the actual teachings of the koran was fairly minimal.

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"bob fosse" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

01:36 min | 4 years ago

"bob fosse" Discussed on Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

"To the eighteenth century why is it happening now well it's happening now because as you said iraq and syria leton are are yes poetic yes but politics is at the incubator of religious convulsion of religious reform and upheaval and transformation i think a further aspect which i think fascinating lee provides an echo of the christian reformation is that the spike in jihadism eerily coincides with the rise of the internet and what the internet has done is to make excessive bowl in a multitude of fanatic hilas not just the koran bob fosse collections of happy since i was centrally people who as you say are not scholars but he want to justify what they do can go online and can look staff are and confined any ah thirty any laying although oil and we are allow in a lot of the i would remind the agree with that that is true the definitely a kind of cotton paced kharon i would point out the islamic forbes and jihadists have a lot in common they both kind of selectively quote scripture would nowhere to basis and scholarship but one thing i would add to that i would go a step further and say okay that's true in some cases but what about the evidence which i cited at the start on site again as as we come to a close which is a lot of these people who your saying you know they're going online we've got they've actually not that much evidence that they are interested in the actual religious arguments uniden moss the british think tank did a twoyear study of of convicted terrorists in britain and canada and they found that that not only that they have a shallow conception of islam their degree of interest quote in the actual teachings of the krahn was fairly minimal.

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