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Despite a US-China Trade Truce, Tech Tensions Rise
"This briefing is sponsored by Deloitte business process with less process. See what's possible when data and automation come together to help reinvent workflows visit Deloitte dot com slash. US slash only. See Possible. This is your tech news briefing for Wednesday January fifteenth. I'm Qatari Yoga from the newsroom. Of The Wall Street Journal in New York so it looks like the trade war is winding down China and the US are set assigned signed phase. One of a trade deal today but on the tech side of things. Tensions are still running high senior editor. Bob Davis will join us to explain the difference between the trade war and the tech war. That's up minute. But first let's check some headlines Stories out of India and the US have brought the debate eight over how to balance digital security and public safety back into the spotlight. An Indian court has ordered Google and facebook owned what's APP to preserve IRV data connected to an attack on a university campus earlier this month. The January fifth attack at one of India's most liberal universities injured thirty four people. It was part of an uptick in violence. Islands and protests over a controversial new law that would provide path to citizenship for immigrants of nearly all religious backgrounds except Muslims. The courts ruled that Google. Oh and what's APP have to save messages photos and videos connected to the attack. Neither Company has commented but what's APP. which has more than four hundred million users in India? Yeah has consistently said that messages exchanged on its platform are encrypted and that not even they can access them much less the government in the US Attorney General. Bill Bar is calling on apple to help the Justice Department. Unlock the iphone of Assadi Aviation student who launched an attack at a navy base. In Pensacola last month Barr says the data and the communications on the phone could help the DOJ determine whether the gunman was radicalized apple says it has been helping but they stopped short of agreeing to create a back door in their products. They say a back door for the government could also be exploited by hackers. This briefing is sponsored By Deloitte on podcast. You hear a lot about what's possible but one thing is certain. No business or city achieves their possible alone that's why Deloitte loyd collaborates with a vast ecosystem of alliances in everything from systems hardware to cloud platforms data migration to analytics. Ai I to Vr. Collaboration it's one key way to turn possible into actual learn more at Deloitte dot com slash. US slash only only see possible China and the US are getting set to sign phase. One of the trade deal on Wednesday it marks a de-escalation of the trade war that's been raging between the two countries since last year but the tack war is continuing to move forward here to explain. More is senior editor. Bob Davis Bob. Thanks for being with us. Thank you so if you're going to just look at this trade deal being signed you'd think that the US and China are starting to get a little bit more friendly ease up on. The tensions wide has been a sticking point. Well Tech has a much clearer. National National Security Component and tech is also the issue that drives the two nations apart. Because it is ultimately you know a fight for the leadership of the twenty first century. That'll be defined as much by technology. Leadership is military or any other kind of leadership the name that's really been at the forefront of this at least in our a a lot of our reporting has been wild way why has the US been so focused on Wa wa thus far well a couple of reasons why way is seen as has a arm of the Chinese government. I mean it says it's a privately owned company but its founder. Was You know a senior member of the Chinese Military Terry. Frankly I think any telecommunications company in this country or any other country is pretty behold into the government and so I think the government and the Congress think of wow way as a portal for China to spy on the. US number two is while way is the leader globally in the next generation of telecommunications technology call five G. to the degree that way equipment gets to be the standard for global five G.. They have a enormous platform for being the infrastructure technology of the twentieth century. As you mentioned the concerns over wall way way aren't new and the US has really been pushing back and not just here in the US but also in Europe. What's been the impact on wall way? So far and on the American companies that work with way you know. Surprisingly it's been precious little Weiwei's revenues climbed eighteen percent in two thousand nineteen despite bite enormous pressure put on while way by the US It's global efforts to make sure that while he doesn't become the global standard have largely. We failed and the effort by the administration is successful effort by the administration to put on a Blacklist hasn't had much in the way of perfect. What do you mean they've largely failed? Can you give us an example of that. Sure A. There's a question in India potentially one of the telecommunications markets in the world so who are they going to choose the. US HAS ARGUED AGAINST THEM CHOOSING WALL WAY and they've gone ahead and chosen Wa wa. That's an involving country Germany. It's the same issue. The Germans believe that they are able to deal with the potential security threats from using WAALWIJK equipment just earlier this week. US officials flew to London to lobby. British officials. Who are making a choice about whether you embed while we equipment or not? And they've had some successes. I think Australia decided against while way. Hey but by and large countries have decided to take way equipment which is considered to be first rate and also considerably less expensive than alternatives. uh-huh so at the same time that the trump administration is about to sign this phase. One deal they're also planning some new actions against wall way. What are they rolling coming out? Well I mean this gets to be a little technical but The short answer is that the. US put away on a sanctions list on a on. A blacklist in May may the idea from that blacklist was that. US companies wouldn't be able to supply while away with the components in semiconductors that they need need and that would potentially cripple the company because they depend enormously on American technology. Well what happened was while way is such an enormous customer. They By ten billion dollars worth of semiconductors and other components that the companies figured out a way around this blacklist essentially actually if they shipped from overseas and didn't use much in the way of American components in their overseas production. They were able to ship and supply while way in the same same way that they did in the past so I think they they largely kept the market share that they had with the Commerce Department is proposing to do now is to make it much more difficult for American companies overseas. Say Your Intel in Malaysia To ship chips or other components that are derived from American in technology but are produced in Malaysia to ship those kinds of components to Wa wa. What kind of impact could that have on the US tech sector well and on the tech sector sure? The question is whether while way will say okay fine. We won't deal with you guys and we'll buy from Japanese and South Korean companies. Much of what while way buys are pretty standard sort of you know computer chips and glass and materials and you know one widget or another that goes into their equipment We're not generally speaking talking about you know leading technology that has military possible military uses so. I mean for a lot of those they can go somewhere else and the concern from industry. Is that if you push too hard. That's what exactly what while we will do. I mean the the new requirements. They're talking about would only require a company to get a license to ship to alway and so- commerce could give them a licensed inspect your think of it from the Chinese perspective your way or one awhile as competitors do you wanna be subject to the whims of the Commerce Department. I don't think so. So I. I mean the incentive the enormous incentives to develop the components yourself for buying elsewhere. Let's just take a broader view of this. When we're looking at this phase one deal being signed right now? What does this push back on the tax sector kind of say about the administration's China strategy overall all kind of this dual effort and could this tack war at the end of the day as you said it's such a huge sector and it could have so many ramifications for the future could this this have an impact on face to deal? That could be hashed out in the future. Well there is a question whether they'll ever be face to deal. I mean the phase one deal basically calls a truce to the trade war and leaves all the really difficult issues for phase two issues like subsidies the behavior of state owned companies. He's you know pressure on. US companies to transfer technology against their will leaves. Virtually all those Significant issues which were supposed supposed to be the heart of the trade war you know to future future negotiations. I mean the you know in the article I make a distinction between the trade were and the tech war. But they're really wanting the same. I mean we're talking about trading of technology and to the degree that the tech portion of the the fight becomes more intense I mean that clearly will undermine relations generally or could undermine relations generally in that would have a broader consequences quences to whether the two countries you know kind of make up and move ahead together or they don't and the chances are heavily weighted to do they don't make up and the sort of go their separate ways they can't really go their separate ways but that they they separate senior editor. Bob Davis thanks so much for joining joining us. Sure thank you and that was your tech news briefing. I'm Qatari. Oh come from the Wall Street Journal in New York. Thanks for listening.
Trump Steps Back from March 1st Tariff Deadline
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According to the minutes policymakers expressed greater concern about risks to US economic growth at the meeting, prompting them to signal a hall to interest rate increases officials also discussed the circumstances under which they would slow or conclude the wind down of their four trillion dollar portfolio of bonds and other assets the fed held interest rates steady at the meeting and switch their policy stance from the December meeting when they raised rates and penciled in two increases this year, tighter, financial conditions, and the prospect of muted inflation convinced officials they could hold off on rate increases while they watch how the economy fares in his annual address Wednesday. In Moscow, President Vladimir Putin warned. Russia would aim new advanced weapons against the US. Should it? Deploy intermediate range missiles in Europe. It comes in the wake of the breakdown of a Cold War era nuclear treaty. Mr Putin said Russia wasn't seeking confrontation with the US and wouldn't make the first move to deploy the missiles earlier this month. Russia said it would suspend its obligations under the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty, essentially, sealing the fate of the pack. The US recently said it plans to abandon and six months, if Moscow doesn't destroy missile systems that Washington says are in breach of the pact for Mont Senator Bernie Sanders campaign said it raised five point nine million dollars in the first twenty four hours after his presidential announcement. That's nearly four times the next best showing in the field. That numbers a dozen democratic candidates so far Sanders and independent receive donations from more than two hundred twenty five thousand individual donors in the first day of his campaign a hall that far outpaced his democratic rivals. And some of his biggest fundraising days during his two thousand sixteen primary challenge to Hillary Clinton by comparison, California. Senator Kamala Harris raised one and a half million dollars from thirty eight thousand dollars online in the twenty four hours after she announced her campaign last month. Still ahead will President Trump stick to the March first deadline on Chinese tariffs. As the US and China hold trade discussions this week. President Trump has eased off his hard deadline for raising tariffs on Chinese imports. Mr. Trump has said the US may not increase levies on China on March first as scheduled saying the deadline to complete talks with Beijing is not a magical date. Let's talk about where trade negotiation stand with Bob. Davis Wall Street Journal senior editor who joins us from Washington. So Bob, these trade meetings are taking place in Washington, and these are mid level meetings. Right will cabinet level officials take part, assuming the weather cooperates down there. Yes, they they should be involved. They will be involved as of tomorrow. It'll be secretary Mnuchin and secretary and ambassador lighthizer on the US side, and Lou her the Chinese on voi- on the Chinese side. Bob hasn't President Trump's equivocating on the deadline? Put him at odds with US trade. Rep lighthizer. Yeah. I mean, it's a really odd set of circumstances. I mean lighthizer is pushing and pushing and pushing you know to keep the deadline solid. So he can get more leverage and try to get the Chinese to make changes that would wind up to be fundamental changes. In the China's economy where the president has said several times, including most recently yesterday that the deadline isn't really solid. It's not a magical date. You know, we can extend the talks. So that undermines Cooley undermines the ability of the trade Representative to muse the deadline as a point of leverage. Now, how long have these trade meetings gone on Bob haven't they shuttled between Beijing and Washington they have started in about mid mid January. And there's been I think there's the fourth round. And again, there are at least as photo deadline March first. So if they don't get anything today anything this week. I imagine. They'll be the US team will be back in Beijing next week. And as you write absent to deal. Mr. Trump has repeatedly set a firm deadline, or maybe it's lighthizer who has repeatedly set a firm deadline for tariffs on two hundred billion dollars of Chinese goods to increase to twenty five percent from ten percent. But lighthizer was really the one that's held firm on this. Yes, that's true. I mean, it's it's beyond the president in lighthizer. I mean, it is hard of US law guess or use regulation. It's been published in the Federal Register that tariffs will go up to twenty five percent from ten percent at twelve. Oh, one A M on March second the US has to change that otherwise it automatically comes into effect will President Trump mate with Chinese president Xi Jinping at some point soon. Would that would that end up being the deadline for tariffs? It looks that way. I mean, the president certainly has indicated any number of times that he's. Willing to do with the Chinese invited him. There are a series of events in China starting around March third that would make it impossible for Xi Jinping to meet with Trump one is the meeting of in China of their what passes for parliament there, the National People's Congress which takes a couple of weeks starting March third after that. There's something called the China Development forum where the Chinese and vite experts and government officials from around the world to talk about development issues. Xi Jinping is very involved in that form as well. So that tiny takes you to the end of March. So, you know, I would think that would be possible time the end of March early April sometime around then would the chances increase that you know, a deal can eventually be struck. I mean, the markets US financial markets are waiting on this. And also, it seems like from what I have heard that. Really China's sort of anxious to make a deal and head off these tariffs. They certainly are. I mean, they'd like a deal before the National People's Congress. I mean, you know, in the US, we tend to discount that China has its own politics. We sort of we think that she's paying is an all powerful dictator. I mean, he is a dictator. But that he's he's not all powerful. It's pol. They have plenty of politics there. They're just different than the politics in the US. And and he would like to have this out of the way by you know, by the People's Congress, which starts March there. So, you know, this pressure number of pressures on him to get a deal Wall Street Journal senior editor Bob Davis. Joining us from Washington. Thanks, bob. Okay. Thank you. And that's what's news. I'm Charlie Turner in New York for the Wall Street Journal.
18 Trivia Questions from Pop Culture Trivial Pursuit
"It's eighteen trivia questions from trivial pursuit pop culture edition released in two thousand three visits Trivia with buds and. Welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Bites banks or check out my show now on youtube go to YouTube dot com slash trivia with buds to watch the shell every single day. Sometimes I have guests on sometimes. It's just asking questions like today and it's always a good time. It subscribe on Youtube or your favorite podcast listening APP to never miss a daily episode at about eight hundred episodes to go back and listen to so if there's a certain topic that you want to do some trivia on just search that topic on Google with the words Trivia with buds after it and you'll probably come across what you're looking for. We've done just about everything you can think of. And today we got some random ones for yet from trivial pursuit. Pop Culture addition. It looks like that if you're watching on Youtube and this came with a DVD. I think it was the first version of the game to have video clips in it. Maybe they had an old one in the eighties or nineties with a VHS tape but this was the first DVD one. I believe and they kind of released that around the time seen it started coming out so. I think they're trying to capitalize on everyone playing those DVD Games which was crazy. Those were so popular for a while and now I feel like they don't exist even though it's easier to stream and watch stuff. There's not like a a video clip screaming board game which seems like it should be easy nowadays but You know they always gotta think of it before they do it. I Guess Big Quick Amendment to yesterday's podcast. I mentioned that the answer to a question was was it. Oh my friend Ian sent me an email let me pull up ins e mail so I could read exactly what I got wrong because I already forgot what I'm supposed to say was was jacked up on this one. This is the twenty five cent question. Yesterday we had a question A whole round on ones and twos while the answers were one and two related words so Ian Says Hey man just listened to today's show on one or two answers. You made a mistake on the twenty five cent question. You said it was two pence. It's actually two bits. Pence is the plural of the word. Penny in many countries like the UK. What you were going for is to bits. A bit is equal to one eighth of dollar which is twelve. Point five cents. What's crazy IAN is that I looked up the questions. I was reading and on the screen that I was reading. It said Two BITs and subconsciously. I change it to two pence for some reason. I don't know why but I didn't even have the word. Pence written down may because pence is in the news for taking over the corona virus. Maybe that's why he was in my head. Ian Goes on to say going a bit earlier. This comes from the old Spanish currency. Which was the dollar one. Spanish dollar was known as a piece of Eight. That's because it took eight of them to make one Spanish real. You might have heard the term pieces of eight since it's used in some old pirate stories and such. It's also the name of an album by the band sticks. Ian The official money master on the Trivia with Buds podcast. Thank you for all that Info. If I ever do stuff like that if I messed stuff up or say things wrong you can let me know Sometimes I will address like this when I think of it and remember it. Sometimes I'll probably just let it pass because I do have to do the show every day but I do want it to be as accurate as fun as possible for people who really get a kick out of things being one hundred percent perfect so thank you Ian and thank you for this review that I'm going to read from my friends sleep. Great Twenty three hours ago left. This review says different topic every day. Five Stars Fun to listen to with family friends or your Trivia team interesting topics that patrons pick out a host. That is easy to listen to and enjoys what he does Smiley face. Thanks for the Best Trivia podcast. Thank you sleep great and I hope this show helps you sleep. Great because that would be awesome. I listen to certain shows to fall asleep. There's a couple meditation podcast that I've been getting into So those also help you sleep great or maybe the sound of my voice knocks you out which is great. If you fall asleep listening to this show let me now. I'll have to get you like a trivia with bud sleep mask or something like that and if you leave a review and I tunes make sure to let me know as well send me an email Ryan buds gmail.com so I can send you some cool swag in the mail for taking the time to do that. All right where to jump into eighteen random questions three cards that I pulled from trivial pursuit. Dvd Pop culture edition from two thousand and three here. We go all right guys here. We go with the first question of eighteen from three cards with six questions each from trivial pursuit. Dvd Pop culture edition back in two thousand three. The topics are movie. Tv Music S which I think is sports and Games. Maybe Buzz which must be like pop culture or like buzz worthy stuff and then fads which could be I think fads. I don't have the guide on what these mean but I'm just going by the the quick little acronym they give you so here we go. This is your first question number one. Where was rainman allowed to drive slow? There's a movie question for you. Where was rain man? The character rainman allowed to drive slow number one question for two. Who Played Senatorial aide? Billy Bob Davis on the John Ritter Sitcom hearts afire. There's a TV question for you. Who Played Senatorial aide? Billy Bob Davis John Ritter Sitcom hearts of fire question three. How many times does the word M appear in the title of the crash test Dummies Song. How many times does the word Appear in the title of the Crash Test. Dummies Song Question Number Four. What nineteen eighty s soft rock band had an arcade game featuring animated ban members number four? What nineteen eighty soft rock band had an arcade game featuring animated band members question number? Five Charlton Heston has declared that. What would have to be pried from his cold dead hands? What would have to be pried from his cold dead hands and number six? What is Ali Landry? Better known as what is Ali Landry better known as all right? That was our first card jumping on the question number seven. What position does Harry Potter? Play on his quidditch team. What position does Harry Potter? Play on his QUIDDITCH team questionable. Eight what nine hundred eighty-three. Tv movie dramatize life after Nuclear War. What nine hundred eighty three. Tv movie dramatize life after Nuclear War question number nine. Who is the first person mentioned in? Billy Joel's we didn't start the fire. Who is the first person mentioned in that Song Question Number Ten what? Cba team did rap. Mogul master P play for during the Nineteen Ninety. Eight nineteen ninety nine season question number eleven. What medical condition kept David Letterman from hosting a string of shows in two thousand three? What Medical Condition Camp David Letterman from hosting a string of shows show? I don't like is that wrong. Twice shoes Shows in two thousand three and number twelve. What nickname for Batman did cartoonist? Frank Miller revive in his nineteen eighty six series. What nickname for Batman did cartoonist? Frank Miller revive for his nineteen eighty six series and moving onto the third card. Your final six questions of the quiz. Here's number thirteen. What nineteen ninety-six film star George Clooney and quit Tarantino as fugitive brothers in Mexico? What was that movie with? Q T and G as fugitive brothers. Mexico nineteen ninety-six number fourteen. What was thirty year? Old Chris Petersen's profession on the show. Get a life. What was thirty year? Old Chris Petersen's profession on get a life number. Fifteen was the name of eminem's obsessive fan as documented on the Marshall mathers. Lp that one really came back This year or the last couple of years. What is the name of 'em's obsessive fan as documented on the Marshall Mathers LP number sixteen? What Arcade Game Inspired Nineteen ninety-three movie starring Scott Wolf and Elissa Milano lie? No this one. I just saw a meme of this one today. What arcade game inspired in Nineteen ninety-three movies starring Scott Wolf and Elissa Milano number seventeen? What L. A. CLUB DID RIVER PHOENIX? Pass away in front of La Club. Did River Phoenix die in front of an number eighteen? Who WAS THE FIRST TO BE IN AN AD? Was It snap crackle or pop? Who was the first to be an advertisement? Was It snap crackle or pop? Those are all your eighteen questions for today's quiz on trivial pursuit. Pop Culture Edition. We'll be right back in just a second to see how you did with those fancy answers. We're back with the answers to trivial pursuit. Pop Culture Edition Trivia. We had eighteen questions. Let's go over those eighteen answers and see how you did number one. Where was rain man to drive slow? Where was rainman? Allowed to drive slow. The answer was in the driveway in the driveway number. Two who played senatorial aide? Billy Bob Davis on the John Ritter Sitcom hearts afire. That was billy Bob Thornton. That's a fun one. He played billy Bob in real life and on the show Billy Bob Thornton hearts afire number three. How many times does the word appear in the crash? Test Dummy Song M- Four times and that was actually the name of the winning team from Ninety Trivia that I just did an Apple Valley at off the grid. Brewing congrats that team. If they listened to the podcast next up we had S G which I think was sports and Games. What nineteen eighty soft rock band had an arcade game featuring animated band members journey? Never heard of that. Don't know anything about it but if you do send me screen shots journey in the animated band member thing arcade game Charlton Heston has declared that he would have to be pro. What would have to be pried from his hands his gun? His Gun gun fanatic or was a gun from Attica. He's gone and what is Allie? Landry better known as the answer there the doritos girl the doritos girl Not Familiar with that if you're wondering what the noise in the background. It's my neighbor across the street who just decided to cut tile on his front lawn like a real tile cutter. What are we are here? We go what position does Harry Potter. Play on his quidditch team. He is a seeker looking after that golden snatch what nine hundred eighty-three TV movie dramatized life after nuclear war. That was called the day after the day after and question number nine. Who is the first person mentioned in? Billy Joel's we didn't start the fire the answer there Harry Truman Harry Truman. Next up what? Cba team did rap. Mogul master P play for during the one thousand nine hundred eighty nine thousand nine hundred nine season. That was the Fort Wayne. Fury for Wayne Indiana Fort Wayne Fury next up. What medical condition kept David Letterman? From hosting a string of shows in two thousand and three he had shingles shingles and what was the name for? Batman that cartoonist Frank Miller revived in his nineteen eighty-six series the dark knight the Dark Knight Number Thirteen. What nineteen ninety-six film star George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino as fugitive brothers in Mexico? The answer was from dusk till Dawn. What thirty year old Chris Peterson profession? Did he have on get a life? He was a paper boy on the TV show. Get a life. Chris Peterson paper boy. Thirty years old number thirteen fourteen. Fifteen what is the name of Eminem's obsessive fan is documented on the Marshall Mathers LP? That is Stan played by Devon Sawa in the music video. Everyone's standing everything these days. And we had what Arcade Game Inspired ninety-three movie starring Scott Wolf and Eliza Milano Double Dragon the movie. It actually wasn't a mean that I remembered. It was an article that came up on the top ten worst video game movies of all time. I used to rent that movie and love it quite a bit when it came out in the nineties. But it's not so great number seventeen what L. A. Club did River Phoenix. Pass away in front of the Viper Room Notorious Viper Room. Not Too far from me and who was the first to be in an ad? Snap crackle pop number eighteen. The answer was snap snap was the first one shown in an ad for Rice krispies. So there you have at eighteen questions. Eighteen answers from trivial pursuit pop culture edition if you can find a thrift store. It's a pretty fun one. It's the only trivial pursuit I would actually have a chance at. 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What Biden's Approach to China Could Mean for Tech
"The key bank invites you to visit key dot com slash tech trends here. You'll find timely articles and videos with valuable insights from key banks technology and banking solutions team. Visit key dot com slash tech trends. Today this is tech news briefing thursday january seventh. I'm llewellyn for wall street journal. The trump administration has taken a hard line china with both sides ramping up restrictions on each other and often the tech industry has gotten caught in the middle but with the biden administration. Set to take office the us. China relationship could change or senior editor. Bob davis will help us break down biden strategy after these headlines following yesterday's riots the us capital social media companies see. They're working to limit the spread of commentary that they say could further inflame violence both twitter and facebook temporarily locked president trump's accounts and removed a video in which trump sympathized with the rioters. The company say violated their rules against inciting violence at the industry's strongest actions against the president twitter and facebook. Along with other social media. Companies have grappled with how to moderate posts about the november elections false statements from trump and some of his supporters have unleashed weeks viral claims about election fraud and post that encouraged violence. There's been no evidence of widespread voter fraud in a rule released by the labor department yesterday. The trump administration made it easier for businesses to classify gig workers as independent contractors. That means those workers would not be protected by things like federal minimum wage and overtime laws. The news is being seen as a victory for big companies like doordash. And here's our reporter. Eric neurath with more the labor department officials were very plain that this was essentially a response to a law california lawmakers passed in two thousand nineteen which sought to really expand the definition of employees. And make it so know. Gig workers like uber drivers door dash delivery drivers had to be counted as employees and needed to receive certain state protections. That law has been challenged by voters. So it's a little bit in flux right now but the labor department said on the federal level you know those workers would not be counted as employees would remain an independent contractor status officials on the united kingdom's preparing an antitrust investigation into embiid ideas. Forty billion dollar deal to acquire the chip designer arm holdings the move presents. One of what is likely to be several regulatory hurdles for the merger executives at both invidia and had the expected the approval process to take some time and in yet another reversal. The new york stock exchange says it will be delisting china's three largest telecom companies after it received quote new specific guidance from the treasury department. The nyse has now reversed itself on this decision twice in about a week. Starting confusion over whether the telecoms were covered by an executive order from president trump the order seeks to be and trading and securities of companies that the administration says have links to the chinese military by the way as we know the relationship between the us and china is iraqi one. We'll talk more about it and weather. That could change. During the biden administration after the break are you a henry it stands for high earner not rich yet. It means that despite earning a six figure income you're struggling to amass meaningful nest egg. Our friends at the motley fool can help. Since nineteen ninety-three they've been providing investment advice helping members build the financial future. They envision to kick start your 2021 financial goals. they're offering five of their favorite stocks picks for free realizing your henry. Remember the not rich yet part. You can do it. And the motley fool can help visit full dot com slash. Wsj we report exclusively that the us is considering blacklisting alibaba and tencent two of the most powerful tech companies most powerful companies in china. It's not yet clear which officials will go on this. If they do shut the company's out would be an escalation in what's been a fraught relationship between the us and china particularly during the trump administration but as the biden administration prepares to take office. It's possible that relationship could change her to help us. Look ahead is our senior editor. Bob davis covers the china relationship for us. Hey bob thanks so much for joining me. You welcome great to be here. So can you just start. By characterizing. The relationship between the us and china under president trump. Well i would say it started off as bad and it's gotten worse. I mean the the trump administration pushed i pushed on the trade and economic issues and they had a two year trade war which wound up with an agreement. But that happened almost at the very same time that covid started sweeping along across the country and at that point basically the president gave green light to his national security and human rights people and that has been kind of one initiative after another on on the national security front and technology has played a pretty big role in there too right certainly when i say there was a trade war trade war quickly morphed into a technology battle i mean one of the most important issues certainly technology. The us felt that the chinese government and chinese companies were forcing american companies into handing over valuable technology. And also that they were using china was using unfair means to advance and so the us. I started off with weiwei trying to block while ways growth internationally because while we certainly is going to be the national champion in china and then it's moved to other areas including apps and Chips and all sorts of things. And there's a blacklist now with hundreds of chinese companies on it. Why is it the tech israeli so central to this i mean technology is seen as the motor of the economy going into deeper into the twenty first century and whoever is number one in technology and science has a head start on the industries that are going to grow out of that technology and so it is a defining issue in the competition for primacy in the twenty first century. Bob tons of control of the infrastructure is a really key issue on that point and the us and china have really diverging views on what kind of values that infrastructure should promote. Sure i mean the. Us has has promoted from the very beginning from the beginning of the internet. An open system where data moves freely across borders and different players are allowed to say and do whatever they want China has a very different view of what an interconnected society should be. I mean interacting society and the chinese view is one that's run by the central authorities ride and that keeps out the kinds of ideas and information that the government and the communist party doesn't want ordinary chinese citizens to know so looking to the future. President elect joe biden is set to become president biden in just a couple of weeks what we know about his strategy when it comes to china and particularly around this issue of tech think the biggest difference between biden and trump on china is that biden is looking to create a variety of different alliances with democracies with industrial democracies to try to take on china. Biden's view the trump unilateral effort on china on and technology failed that the us got modest changes in china and trade and really didn't make much headway in technology at all. I mean it's true that in a number of countries while way is now been frustrated and it's also true that suppliers to while away have a much more difficult time supplying the company but still is the question of well. We know what else i mean. What's the alternative to while away. And i think what the biden team is trying to. We'll try to do is put together as i say. Alliances of leading countries in technology to come up with alternative so in the five g area to come up with a way to avoid using while we equipment and not just ban while way but but you know instead of using way us system x that they're developing or trying to develop same with artificial intelligence electric vehicles and all sorts of technology issues. And as we know you know this back and forth has consisted of a tit for tat. The has imposed restrictions and so has china. So where does china stand now. And what do we know about their approach as we move into this new administration well largely in reaction to what the us is doing plus their own desires. I mean china's trying to become more self sufficient just put yourself in in their position The us has shown itself to be unr- unreliable supplier. Certainly they want to see what this new administration you know is up to and and How they can do business with this new administration but the sort of broad outlines. I don't think he's going to change very much. I think that they will push increasingly to become self sufficient which again means that less room for foreign companies except for the foreign companies that they absolutely need to think that they will go back to a notion that the global supply chain is something they can depend on. I think is fantasy. And i think the same for the us as well that the us will look at the kobe crisis their over reliance on china and this will be a big push for the us government to push american companies to produce more at least outside of china if not in the us and just zoom out here a little more. Why is this relationships so important for the tech industry. More broadly what hangs in the balance. I mean the. Us china fight and the worsening relations between the two countries is enormously important for the technology industry first all china's gigantic market if they lose china as a market they will lose enormous amounts of revenue if they lose that revenue that means less money for research falling behind european and japanese companies. And also the whole question of. How do you do business. Tech industry has become an industry that depends on a global supply chain. Well that global supply chain now is up in the air so they have to be thinking they should be thinking about their dependence on china or any on any other single country. Apple for instance is just unbelievably dependent on production out of china. That is now. Obviously you know. A real potential weakness and other companies looked at china as you know kind of simple way to reduce their costs of manufacturing in the us. And now you. That's certainly up in the air. I mean this is a different world. Aren't that senior editor. Bob davis thinks so much for joining me. Thank you that's it for today's tech news briefing. You can find more tech stories on our website wsj.com and if you like our show. Please do review. Us in your app store. It really does help llewellyn for the wall street journal. Thanks for listening.
Creating A Great Customer Experience with Mike Wystrach, CEO of Freshly
"Welcome to another episode of Mission Daily. Today we have Michael Strack on the CEO of freshly joining us today. Michael how are you doing today? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on awesome. So for those who don't know. Can you describe until our audience? What is freshly you guys? Do freshly healthy ready made meals. We ship right to your house so think about it. As the easiest way to eat healthy it's it's having a personal nutritionist and a personal shatter lives inside of your refrigerator. All the stuff for you and then all you have to do is heat up. A meal takes about three minutes to heat up. And you're having a gourmet delicious meal for starting ended up at bay ninety nine meal no delivery fee no tipping no tax just fully delivered to your house and this is very different again from the other meal kits where. I have to do all the cooking right. This is is ready to go. Is that what you're saying? I started the company really to solve. My problem is and I like a lot of people. I'm not a big fan of cooking and if I am cooking I wanted to be enjoyable right so I think of cooking for me is an experience. I Love Barbecue and I'm not but the reality is in my my day. I don't have a lot of time to you know barbecue and do their thing. I to do those things once every week. Two weeks. So freshly is for those people who just need help getting to the week they wanna eat great tasting healthy meals. They're affordable and I think there's there's lots of options that are are quick convenient but they're unhealthy. They cost a lot. Whether you're using the delivery there's options like meal kit guys who do a great job of what they do but it. It requires anywhere from an hour hour and a half to cook those meals. And that's something that you know. I personally didn't have But I still wanted to eat. That healthy home cooked meal. That was fresh. That wasn't loaded with in a bunch of junk. I just want someone else to do. The work for me. Your your background's pretty interesting I WanNa talk about that a little bit for you. Get the fresh It kind of led up to it. So your background fascinating because you were in all types of different businesses It sounds like your partner. In real estate. Companies that were developing a residential properties near the University Arizona. You actually worked at a company. That sounds like that you worked in like a would call it like franchises where you guys are operating. Gas Stations. Hotels Carl's junior starbucks and you also owned a restaurant outright. So you've always kind own these independent businesses. What brought you to say. Okay I WANNA do freshly and you kind of mentioned it a little bit like you working such long days. You couldn't cook. But what gave you that idea that this is gonNa work better than the other things. You were successfully operating. I think first of all I started off. My parents wanted a month old so I grew up in an entrepreneur base family and always connected food in some aspects so we've independently at restaurants from steak restaurants. Delis we've operated quiz knows spike Grew up in almost every aspect of food. You can do never thought that was gonNA be my career actually at a college into banking but then really decided I wanted to get back and entrepreneurial on as you said I I did a lot of different things in the entrepreneurial space From real estate development to Owning and operating different businesses. And one of those happen to be a restaurant and when I started fresh air really wasn't started. It wasn't called freshly. It was an idea to solve. My problem It wasn't an idea to start a company was to start eating healthier. I turned thirty. I found that the a day pizza diet was not the Diet for me at that stage by moved from New York where I literally had never turn on my own and I lived in New York for three years. Never turn on. Ben. I just. I'm not a cooker got that I should be cooking. 'cause I knew that it was healthier. I knew that It was more co- you know costs affordable so what? I ended up doing to solving my own problem with working with a close family friend to his ear doctor by training got really passionate about health and wellness and how diet can really really functionally change a lot of people's lives like not only from your health and weight but from your emotions while you sleep all those things in like. I said I had a restaurant so I had chefs there and I basically went to my family friend. I said draw me up a menu of things that should eating And I'm going to hand that off to my chefs and they're gonNA just put it into Goku to go containers and I'm just going to heat it up through the week in each atten fast forward ninety days Shape life like seal grade sleeping great. My energy levels are awesome and people notice that people search saying. Hey what are you doing and I tell them. I'm at my House Cook Food and so people said. Hey would you do for me I'll pay you I desperately need this And that kind of a moment hit but really the the first you know few months of me doing it was just for me and it was an amazing opportunity for me because I never had to worry about calories or any of those things someone else was doing it That's that's how the idea started. That's the business started thing. Most people are like that right. They will eat. Just whatever's in front of them like if you put the bigger portion is the consume more in and you solve that problem which is you already have it controlled than there you go. Yeah I think I mean the big part about eating healthy is all the work that you have to put that right. So it's it's it's it's either you're GONNA have to put it in that work in cooking the food you have to put in the work in going and making the proper decisions What I found for myself is that given given a decision of going and getting a salad or Burger. I get the Burger right given the decision of you know of cooking or not cooking. I tend not to cook. 'cause I'm tired at the end of the day like all of us. I work long hours and I just didn't wasn't excited about coming home and cooking so this this really left. The decision process made it easier for me in that I came home in the easiest thing for me to do easier than going out. Easy or impede the easiest thing to do was just heat the food that I had in In my fridge and then it tasted great so I didn't feel like I was losing out. An idol is kind of been this believer. I was I trained like so many people is like oh in order to eat healthy. You have to eat like very little food. That's not satiated instilling And I realize that's not the case. It's really about getting the proper Ingredients the proper quality of ingredients. You know taking those And from you is. It was kind of like amazing moment. 'cause I got all the benefits of having someone else do it for me and it was kind of you know for me. It was like health and a box. So let's fast forward then so now. You know that you're doing it for yourself. Things are working out. People are asking you. Hey I want to have the same meal plan will were those first days. Where other early formation of freshly Did you start with like actually just accepting that money from people was like okay? Pay Me in. I'll make it for you. Went IT and into agree. Today is there's never been freshly is is is not an ex of something there's no roadmap so we were invented while we're going on and and a lot of that was saying yes a lot probably too often in the early days in that we you know. Can you deliver it to me? Yes like it was a new our first. We started shipping food because we had people California contact us as we. WanNa buy Canoe and it was like yes and we figured that there was always like there's always a way to figure something out and I think that's been crucial to frosty successes. That we've never let a challenge getting our way. It's always been that. We don't look at challenges. We look at opportunities. And that's really how focused but it was saying yes to a lot of things And kind of figuring out what works and what doesn't work and and then eventually we we realize they were saying yes to too many things and we had to start saying no and really focus on on delivering execution of what we were making product. Great did mean that we had tell some people. Hey you know. We can't solve that problem where sorry maybe seven day but not now so at. What point did you feel like this was going to be? Its own business. I guess you start to accept money. It sounds like you got some people asking for deliveries volume. Or what was the or the numbers like when you were? I think I WANNA full-time this. Is it this is the. This is the opportunity we knew so we were doing it in our restaurant and over the course of about three months we'd scaled to where that business was now bigger than the restaurant. The restaurant handle that business three months and so we had to make a decision. There and the restaurant was really not set up to do what we were doing. So there was a lot of inefficiencies. There you know it was you know and like so. Many startups is less than clear. If this is going to be a big business a massive business how big this is going to be but we had to take a leap of faith and we got really lucky on finding it facilities that was built specifically for this kind of use case in at smaller volumes. Much smaller than where we're at today but much larger volumes of where we're at the time and we took. We took a big leap of eight and there was a scary one because we had. I think at the time we had ten thousand in the bank in in our payment on this new place. Nine thousand a month so it was. It was one of those things that there was no slippage and there's no room for for error in that process. So one of the things that I feel like you. Were you uniquely prepared to do? This is of course the fact that you've operated within restaurants restaurants are notorious for having razor the margins. How did that influence? I guess your decision making going into this like had to have helped you quite a bit because You know allow the meal delivery services that have gone public that have been scrutinized because of that they just can't keep their cost of customer. Acquisition costs is so high margins are so thin like it. Just it doesn't make sense. How did that knowledge help you? Yes I think I. I think. First and foremost it's the you know the. There's saying some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers and I think you know at the time we would love to have VC funding. We would love to have someone right few million dollar check. That just wasn't an option in Phoenix Arizona. There weren't a lot of VC's in there weren't VC's investing in our category from our back from what we were doing. It took us three years of bootstrapping. And that means you know. It's the old way of building a business which is yet to actually make money to pay for it right. There is no negative burn. There was no bank account there so we had. We had literally build a business. So that makes you very good operator and what you realize is like margins are hard by and I don't care what the businesses I don't care whatever you're doing in any degree of manufacturing margins are all about execution in all about discipline and focus and getting better and getting very very incrementally better but week on week on week and we built that discipline we built that discipline from the ground up you know because we were so thin you know me and my co founder. Were working fourteen fifteen hour days and we were doing a lot of the work So we did every single role in this company before we hired someone else and that gives us a lot of discipline on just how we what the expectations were running. Different portions of the business and and we also then new. You know smart people and and how those smart people are. GonNa come in. And so by the time we did actually to be funding. We were very disciplined organization and we were an organization who really valued every nickel that went through the the the plan and that that is has been why we've been so successful has that been the mindset of the ethos of freshly from day one and that's allowed us in a very you know. Food is always a tight margin. Tough business but You know we absolutely executed operated better than anyone else in class. What was your pitch to the? Vc's at the time of because like you said before you're in the black you're making money your razor margin company. What was your vision that you shared with them that maybe no one else knew. I think they were excited by our team. There were cited by me. My co-founder I think. Second of that is the the the the size of the market. So the Dr General Thesis Has Been In remains and and if you look at the facts and if you look at the information since nineteen fifty food that's cooked in home has declined every single year music. They make sense in one thousand nine hundred. What happened is World War? Two is is for the first time ever in in major scale. Mom left home to join the workforce. When soldiers came back from World War? Two mom stayed in the workforce and and since that since that inflection point More and more years. You have dual income families and and the reality is dual income family as you come home and it's six o'clock seven o'clock at night and the last thing either person wants to do is to three hours of chores right and and so those household duties have have fundamentally changed and we see that changing and we see that. I see that have all in I grew up with my parents and my mom was a stay at home mom and we cooked in house six out of seven dinners a week and one one day a week we go out to eat. Will I look at my how you know? I res I'm raising my kid and how my sister's raising there's an its inverse. They're they're lucky if they're cooked one time in the house and that's because they're all doing families everyone's busy Life's chaotic and it's changing. I think our big fundamental belief is a cooking is becoming much more of an experience becoming more experiential. I think you see this from cookie networks and all these different Cook and all these things. Is that people really enjoy cooking. And they always showed. It's an amazing experience. It's a it's an amazing amazing way to connect to something That's great The reality is we're going to consume twenty one meals and a week on average In in less and less of US WANNA cook all twenty one. We want to cook two or three of those meals and we were a really enjoy that cooking experience but the other ones we want to get somewhere else. So that's a big underlying piece of ours and our second. Jesus is that consumers are starting to and they will continue to demand. Food companies take a fiduciary responsibility on health and for Longtime. We have not trusted big food. We thought big food was out there in we. We held dig food close to a how we how we hold big tobacco right with not with the highest degree of integrity and trust right and our belief is that years. No reason you shouldn't trust in if you'd company It is in the company's best interest to really do a lot of work for you around health and if you do that it's ultimately it's in the best interest of that company because consumers will award that company so we think we think it's a failed philosophy to have every single human on the planet become a PhD in nutrition. Ordered eat healthy. That's not gonNA work. It's the same reason that not all of us. Know How to encrypt and program iphone. It's we we looked for experts to do those kinds of things because they're complicated. Those are the underlying thesis is that we follow with freshly is that those things are happening in food. And they're going to happen at scale so I think our investors got aligned on that mission and then they realize that hey. It's an execution and delivering a product in a product in a in a format that is going to solve the needs that today's consumer really has which our belief is first and foremost time right. Time is our greatest asset. It's the number one thing that is point from us at all different angles second and maybe a very close second. If not tied with that is health and health is health for us is not only extending name out of time. You have on earth but it's also extending the quality of that time right so know. Healthy person is happier. Person feels better does does there? Are Things in foods show so so so impacts on that too? We believe our format Fits those needs customers house and and we believe that this is a massive huge market in our investors bleed at as well and I think what you see in food which were excited about is is. Food is just fundamentally changing over the next ten years. We're going to see a very different food landscape than we've seen over the past fifty years so a couple of things that you talked about there that I wanted to hit on You talked about like that. Trust right building that trust and you talked about a little bit about when you were starting. The company it was a lot of it was when it was first. Starting people literally seeing the results that you're experiencing yourself changing transforming your health in Physique ripe. So how about regaining that trust right so now that freshly start will during your expansion years you now going of course people to selling the markets that have never met you. They don't know what these meals do. And you're exactly right. The food industry is with riddled with distrust right. Like I'm not gonNA name these television dinner companies but like a lot of prepared meals that you see in the grocery store like you said suggested there basically chemical concoctions Who knows what they are right because in we also have a lot of food companies that will boast about health nutrition. Fresh those are some buzzwords they used to sell. So how did you cross the chasm against through say like we're not just We're not just saying it like we live it. Will I mean if you think so first of all I think you gain trust one one inch at a time right? Trust is very hard and you can lose trust extremely quickly so you hold onto that. I think what you've seen in these food companies and they will acknowledge himself is. It's very hard to win back the trust of consumers when you lose that it's very hard so I think we it's why we're customer obsessed why we're focused on the customer meeting achieving those goals for our customers for us it's transparency. I think we have. We have a tremendous opportunity as a direct to consumer business is we can have a lot of conversations with our customers. We encourage our customers to reach out to us You know I don't know about you. I don't know the last time I contacted. Customer service that Coke Pepsi at you know we have twenty four seven customer service. We have chat sewn email INAP- chat encourage people to have a conversation with us. Let us know what we're getting something right or again getting something wrong. And we don't battle thousand so we were very transparent on on the products where all of our labels are clean label on all of our. Our philosophies are all listed And customer can have a conversation with us they literally can contact US twenty four seven. We HAVE JD POWER LEVEL. Customer Service We're responded to Chatham fifteen seconds we're gonNA respond to a phone call and five rings and we're going to find an email on fifteen minutes. That's twenty four seven so you can test us on the We take very serious. So we're constantly looking for user feedback because that's how we get better and that does that trust with the consumer. Because again we don't get everything right we are. We are fallible. We so we WANNA know when we get something wrong and that you know can be as small as not getting delivered to you on time and we want to get better every single day and I think that's that's how we treat. We treat our fiduciary responsibility to the consumer is is really it is added. It is a relationship We believe this is a long term relationship with our customer and we want to be someone they can trust on and build that And for us to get better to have that conversation constantly for the big food guides adding as I said it's GonNa it's GonNa be it's GonNa be hard it's GonNa take time and it's GonNa take a lot of effort on that. I think it's great for us. Because we're we're we're not starting off with that baggage so we're able to start that conversation from fresh. Was that a goal of yours from very beginning to invest that level of I guess resource into building the You mentioned before the Contact Centers. The support vehicles the ability for customers. Interact with freshly the business. Did you know that something? Like a core principle that you wanted to deploy to your business or was that something that someone taught you because when we started the company we we we did everything bootstraps. So me. And My co-founder were our first customer service agents and we weren't able to invest in technology and these different things so literally. We gave out our cell phones to our customers for the first year in. But and don't get me wrong. Hearing from hearing negative things from customers is tossed. It hurts. Especially when you're when you're putting all your effort into business in a negative feedback however what we realized very quickly as it's what made us get better and because we were hearing that feedback consul and getting that feedback in engaging with customers real time we were able to improve lot but we also saw that when you when you did a really good job at customer service customers are really understanding if they believe in you and they trust in you they will give you the benefit of doubt. They will work with you and by having that conversation you actually create a strong relationship with that customer so we saw that early and I think when saw that again you know I I don't I wouldn't say that we built a business plan and said this was the thing we were putting all of our money into we kind of stumbled our way into it and we stumbled their way into because we weren't able to invest in these massive technologies and things from the early days. Now we have a lot more of that which helps out our customers even more but at the early days it was it was getting phone calls in Carter and I always laugh but it was getting phone calls to twelve o'clock at night. It was getting phone calls at four in the morning and it because people didn't know they didn't know it was going directly to our cell phones. We had a guilt that we picked up. We've picked up almost all the time so we always joke that it was one of the best things in our life for our phone stuff in our phone. Stop being the customer service hotline and we didn't have to you know take up. Every single call is a great moment. But that's how we learn that. Do you have any anecdotal stories of just a hard lesson? You learn from a customer that ultimately like impacted the trajectory of the business. Yeah I think what we realized with our customers is is and I think this is. I grew up in a hospitality nature as well so I grew up in in both restaurants and hotels. So you know I it really is the customers number wrong and I think when we realized that is it doesn't matter you know we work with a lot of partners whether that setbacks whether that's odd you know different box. Riders people who help us provide our product char customers but at the end of the day we are that we are that point person for our customers so at the end of the day. It doesn't matter if it was fed ex. Who didn't make delivery it's our fault and that's that's that's a hard thing to to hear because you WanNa you know. Human Nature is. Oh it's not us it's Fedex. It's the weather's what we realize there is no no. It's our fault the customer's expecting us to deliver the box we chose. We chose how to use that. We chose how we're GONNA communicate to that platform now. We're never going to bat us. That's just reality. There will be deliveries that. Don't get you up but we take accountability for all those things and we build systems and processes to get better at that accountability. I think that's one of the things that we learned in this company is the customers never wrong in. It's always our fault It doesn't matter if it's our fault directionally and we actually did the action or if it was one of our partners it always our fault and we need to always take that mindset. And that's helped us. That's helped us as a company really the accountable to deliver a great product with our customer. And so that's that's one of those things. We've heard these things all over the you know many times. It's hard but it gets. It makes a strong one of the things that thing about. You know talking to different operators such as yourself that are at this level is just how impactful that really is where you know if something goes wrong the cost of fixing it is actually it becomes nominal over time right yes upfront. It sucks like for example. If you had to replace a meal right you basically just guaranteed a loss right but do it beings you get a customer fly for. Maybe the customer doesn't have that many return so that's a big investment tough to stomach. I though great great direct consumer companies look at customer service as a marketing tool not as an expense item. So old technologies used to look at customer service or old companies. You look at customer service as an expense item right so art lies in. How do you get like you know how do you get most in? Zappa's certainly started this culture and we come on on their shoulders. But it's it's this idea of hey customer services your best best tool to engage your customer. It's really amazing. Marketing tool as you said. It's like the little things go a long way with customers. Customers appreciate when people solve problems for them and go over and above and I think those are the those are the things you said. They have a huge compound in effect on the overall business and the success that customer. Nfl We feel our products solves a huge need for a customer and we feel that we have a tremendous opportunity to be with our customers for a really long time as long as our customers know that we will do everything in our power to get it right and when we don't get it right we will make it right and I think that's that's something everyone wants to see in a world class brand is that You know I think we. We want customer companies to get things right. We understand that they're not going to get everything right but when they don't get it right we WANNA WE WANNA make sure that they make it right. And that's what we work to do so one of the things. I was reading off your website. It's like as you know so this is very right now freshly everything you described Great meals great. But you added like even I think two more things on top of your brand that you know make I would say challenging operate but ultimately good for the customer. I want to kind of talk about the logistics of that. One of the things is your foods. You don't use any type of artificial or chemical preservatives and your meals only have a refrigerated shelf life of about three to five days so talk about the constraints of that. Because you know you've got an we just talked about. The customers like the shipping is delayed right in my spoiled. Like there's there's a lot of challenges there how did you I guess? Tackle those in. I WanNa hear how you how you came about like the building the procedures that we're going to enable that to happen so a lot so so we've done some. We've done a lot of innovation tests around natural preservatives so those would be like citrus and vinegar and things like that so we've actually extend the shelf life on most of our products now where you have. Seven days of shelf lives. It's up and but but we really are big thesis. Wasn't it's if you think about it is the the grocery network was built in nineteen fifty in kind of coupled together built on kind of this system. So if you think the way you used to buy groceries is your your grandparents used to buy groceries very frequently right especially around produce in because those things don't have preservatives and they didn't stay that long right so used to buy food all the time and then as we went out to. Kinda like in the late sixties seventies. We went out to. We went out to suburban areas. Will the those grocery stores started not being the corner grocery store but it started being the the neighborhood grocery store right which meant that. Your family was going to the grocery store once a week right so when you look at that so then then he said okay. Well now you need to make those products last longer. That's when preservatives and additives first introduced And then now you've got these massive You know. Companies and big and these companies have huge manufacturing. And in so now they were saying okay. Well we need forty five. We Need Ninety Days Shelf Slides one hundred twenty days shelf-life right to what they started doing is putting a bunch of preservatives in these. Now they you know in in some degree their defense. They didn't know what they were. Putting in these products at the time it seemed magical and everyone went along with it that became our ecosystem fast. Forward to nineteen seventy in whole foods starts out saying hey this is a this is a problem and they took a graph grassroots movement and became the whole foods of today but they started with one store in Austin Texas and and really at the time they were just for hippies right And so so freshly really started with this is that yes if you try to build a fresh product. Today's ecosystem of a grocery store can be very very very difficult to do for a fresh prepared meal. However if you do it direct to the consumer what you can do is cut out this. Massive supply inefficient supply chain which on average takes from a manufacturer. It takes anywhere from twenty one to twenty eight days to get that on the shelf so we think about produce when you think about those things. Those actually have a fair amount of shelf life. They're just not on your shelves there in. Shell in a truck shelf there in a warehouse shelf right so there are dade gotTa Lotta Shelf Life. That's getting enough inside of a inefficient supply chain right now. Those supply chains are mazing. Done a lot but it just got a lot of volume so what we said is what if we cut out the middleman. What if we cut out all of that? Dc what if we hand on the whole thing so we can literally produce a meal from raw ingredients from those fresh. All natural wrong grants Take those producers. Cook those package those in shipped directly to your house All within a twenty four hour cycle twenty four thirty six hours cycle where we can do that entire process right and then chip those overnight eight. Now you get when we started. It was three to firebase shelf life on your on your shelves Now seven shelf life so now you have one week. Shell flights which is all natural and again if you go to grocery store and look at like even their fresh products those products on average are fourteen day shelf life by the time you buy you get one or two days shelf life because it's been sitting in the store so we really we invented the entire way we think about the supply chain on the under this direct to consumer model which required us to do these massive changes in how we think about production at large scale. And that's been our secret sauce is that's really why we are absolutely the industry leader. Were worshipping almost a million meals a week right now. Which is you know more than twenty x bigger than our nearest competitor because we do this efficiently at scale with fresh product. And and it's extremely valuables our customers. Yeah let's talk about freshly where it is today because I feel Yeah I'm pretty certain on Monday night football. I saw your commercials that right you did. Yes okay I that. That's not cheap. I live on the east coast so and I go to bed at nine o'clock so Monday night. Football is just kicking off so I haven't I haven't seen those ads yet but I'm all right so I saw I saw I was like Oh man. This is kind quite interesting. Mike's going to be on the show. This week talked to me about this. How big is freshly today? I mean obviously a an advertising spot on football is not inexpensive. So you're you you. You just mentioned a million meals a week. What does that mean like? How big is freshly now? I mean pleased you have. How many facilities are operating? Now he has this year this year. Loan will do you know over. Almost forty million meals you know were fifteen thousand fifteen hundred employees. We started this company. Five years ago with fifteen So you know we've grown massively. We've got facilities all throughout the country. worshiping literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of boxes to consumers a week. We've had over a million total customers. It's been an insane journey. We started off in Tucson Arizona. Small you know the second largest town in Arizona which is not a big state to begin with and and you know we've we've grown in scale than we now service all forty eight states in the continental United States. We have a great team of world class professionals who are doing everything from coding and Britain over four million lines of code We run all of our own facilities. So we're fully vertically integrated and all that support teams in different processes. That help make this happen every day. It's been it's been an honor for me to be part of this organization. I always laugh saying that. Thank God I started this company because there's no way I would ever got hired into this company so it's been it's been an amazing journey one fun to watch and I think you'll were most excited if you look at US versus the standard Diet As of this year we've reduced over three hundred million grams of sugar. Three hundred million grams of sugar that we've reduced from the American Diet. You look at the standard American Diet. those next year as we go out it's GONNA be closer to five hundred million grams of sugar just next year that we're reducing from the American Diet Right And the great thing for us is. It doesn't have to feel like a sacrifice. Were doing the work for you and and if you reduces some the things you would be eating the whoppers the big MACs of things that you don't really make up a large portion of American diet especially the convenient portion of American diets when you when you tend to connect the word convenience food. It tends to be very very unhealthy. We don't think it needs to be. That turned again. My thing has always been like you know. I think I'm a case. Study of one with specially. Is that if you would've left it up to me. To be come healthy I would failed right Thank God I was able to surround myself with a great chefs great nutritionists. Who just did the work for me? And then what? I was really good at his eating the food. That's I scaled S. So I thought what a great system if you could just take the user out and if the user only has to do what they're really good I will. We're all good at as eating and all the heavy work is done for them. Then that sounds to me like an efficient system where we can start getting our heads around and start solving some of these epidemic crisis that we're going see here. We are facing These these are going to get much worse. If we don't solve these in a different format than the way we've been solving which is around obesity and and you know conditions that are related to or poor diet. I think it's an amazing time in the world where you're leading cause of death in America is going to be because of yourself. It's it's it's a long form a suicide that we commit everyday and we're all doing it and it's a system that's broken and we've really got to think about. Hey How do we do? We spend the wheels here in changes. Because if we keep doing the same way it's probably not gonNA end welfare any of us. No no doubt about it. I just watched some show like a show about pharmaceutical pricing. In the fact that you know that's that's become our answers like oh you should stop eating pizza. Nah rather just take the staten on for the rest of my life to control my blood pressure at It's terrible decision that many people are making. I WanNa hit on something that you kind of talking about like mentioned. Hey thank goodness. I started the company because I couldn't get a job in how about the leadership in knowledge. Mentorship who taught. Certainly someone had to help you. Learn how to run and operate a company the size and scale. Who's been along the way helping you? He I mean so so I think you know first of all as I look at mentors it certainly. It starts with my parents. You know I you know. My parents were the first. Operators are watched You know I think so. Much life in success is about work ethic and I think that's one thing I'd sell any founder starter is easy to work. There is nothing that will out while do work you. Can you know intelligence only takes you so far work works? I think the first the first people I look. Atas as as my mentors are my parents and I think specifically to freshly as we started to think Carter and I got really lucky with some people who early investors in freshly who who really gave us their time energy and effort and I think you know that starts with You know one of our first institutional investors a guy named Andrew Black Brand Project and Andrew Really taught us. Andrew was the CEO Virgin Mobile Canada and had come up through Dr Pepper Schweppes and Nike. And and really just you know he'd been part of amazing world class organizations and I think he he. He held US accountable and held us to that level but also taught us a lot about how those class organizations ran worked operated and that was that was amazing. I think you know the Andrew is great in times often very challenging because he held us to the standards of those companies and obviously to start a small company. It's hard to be held up to the level of quality and consistency with a virgin mobile. But that's where we got that obsession with customer service was was from. Andrew's experience at virgin mobile on there being relentlessly focused on jd power level customer service than we had a our next board member who joined us and let her series was. Bob Davis had highland capital partners and Bob is founder and CEO of Lycos. Which is one of the fastest growing Internet companies massive huge acquisitions. So you'll bob was a true operator. I've always appreciated operator so I always like get a lot of advice from people who are who are. Ceo's and have done this job because it's a difficult job in it's a difficult one Explain unless you've done it and I think there's a high degree of of sympathy but also understanding that an operator comes to a mentor different than than a non-operator and Bob Essential hard-drive in operator and you know a lot. Like Andrew held us to very high standards did not let us use excuses as crutches and really held US accountable to to hitting meeting. Great things so I think you'll part of the challenge of of of wanting to be great. If you think about you know sports is is nowadays. You're the best athletes. The best people that we love had had the best coaches in those coaches weren't the nicest coaches they weren't the coaches that make you feel good. They were often the coaches that were pretty hard on you and pretty pretty critical in told you in the end. Thank you were doing a good job and it made you work extra hard in that. Made the best out of your Michael. Jordan's your of Your those those those that and that's what I look for mentors and mine is the. I'm not looking for the easy road. I'm not looking for someone to Always pat my back. Sometimes you want that pat on the back but a lot of times you need that he'll punch in the gut and and so that's the you know. I've been really fortunate Carter. And I've been really fortunate to an I. I'd say Carter would would also say his parents in their workouts We had grade Great people inside of this company. Who really who gave us a lot? a lot of time and energy and that really is what it takes. What about tell me about one of those punches in the gut the took what was something that maybe you guys just weren't ready to hear didn't want here but ultimately when you heard it you you of course corrected it. Ultimately may played a huge impact on the success of freshly Zinke. No are you know we've had different different moments. I think some of those are small punches when you sent an email on. The emails has misspelling. We're getting you know and bartered. Well you and your your immediate reaction as a human and make an excuse right well this. There's no excuse for this. This can't happen from the standpoint of of challenging us as as we took businesses you know what was the right growth. What was the quality of growth when when quality the product slipped? It was a lot of focus on. Are you thinking about this business right way? And I think I'd say with with with them as a lot of things where they you know for lack of a better they'd call it out. Call us out on our BS. Sometimes you can get a feedback loop inside of a company and feel like you're doing the right thing and doing the right thing and you know an outsider has a good perspective is saying no. You guys are thinking about you know. I don't know if you're thinking about this right so I've had I've had many of those I you what my board has done. A great job is they've never tried to and those mentors and I think this is the balancing line is they'd never tried to run the company. They understood that it was. It was our company to run that we're going have to make our decisions and choices. But they were they would give us candidate feedback and they'd give us candid points of view and opinions and we didn't always agree with those and we also didn't always listen with them and they also weren't always right but I'd say more often than not collectively together. We arrived at the right decision We arrived at the right process. It wasn't always easy. Get there but but those are the things. And that's what you WanNa great team and I think you know my advice in any entrepreneur is that you know investors is the money's the easy thing but that hit your bank account and then that that that's the same from whoever you get it's really the partnership and when you taken masters is you gotta you gotTa believe that you're going to get value in those investors. You have to be willing to listen to him. You have to want Otherwise I would advise if you if you don't need to don't take their money because you know it's it's really about a partnership that is about marriage is about staying together and listening earn and getting the best out of out of each other and I think that's that's been one thing that we've been really successful is is every time we brought a new investor. We brought a new great thinker to the table someone that collectively and whether it started as being Carter than collectively grew as our board someone that the entire board was excited to have around the table and to listen to. And that's the key in as you grow businesses that you WANNA get smarter people around the table and you have to be willing and want to listen to them in their point of view perspective and that's always been important for us. I'm assuming the excuse now. New York is that accurate in New York. We still have a secondary. Hq IN PHOENIX. So we moved from Tucson to Phoenix. Pretty quick I was after about four. We'RE IN PHOENIX DURING OUR SERIES A. We'd met Bob Davis and his Baba Island capitals that at times office now multiple but there. The officer were made with was out of Boston. And Bob said look. I love the company and I don't want to Indus- either way but I think if you were in New York do a lot more for you and he asked. What are the things that you know? He he wanted what we wanted to do. In the big initiatives and it was billed attack marketing team in those things and he said look. We can do it wherever wherever you guys want to do it but I think we could do it. Better faster quicker in in in New York. I have massive network. A lot of people are You'll meet founder and and at the time and other or number Andrew Black. We talked it through and You Know Anderson. It's up to you guys and what you guys want to do. And I talked to Carter. I'd lived in New York before so it's pretty easy for me and I said Hey I'm I'm I think it's the right call. I think if we want to build this business this scale we want to build this business getting out of Phoenix at that time for us in the ecosystem. Change a little as you look at Investing but at that time it was very concentrated in New York in San Francisco. We felt that this was the right move and You Know Carter's testament. He visited New York once when he was ten years old and he sight unseen. He's okay. I'm I'm in. We picked up and moved out here and and you know we were. We were travelling a lot. 'cause we still had a production facility in in in. Phoenix and to this day we are spent a ton of time and we have over five hundred employees in Phoenix. We still have a massive presence in Phoenix. And there's Terry headquarters air but yeah. Our principal headquarters is now in New York. Were you married at the time that you made this decision or because you have a family but I was not so lucky enough at that stage and now it's kind of what Anderson cities like. Why not you guys are single. You're not like it definitely made it easy for us out genetics. On a move that a lot of people could do and we also didn't have a lot of the corporate infrastructure talent. We're moving so we ended up only moving three people out to New York so pretty much everyone that we had in Phoenix Stadium. Cenex continue to operate there and we hired new so it wasn't like we were moving the entire company it was it was approved road just three of us at the time we were all single and two of us now are married with kids. That made that move so. It's unlikely we're GONNA make that move again once you get the roots down. It's it's tough exactly so one of the things we always like to do with our guests we also wanted to learn about shillue Personally nothing to do Brasil but some of your hobbies and interests but love to hear. Are you an avid reader? Do you watch. Tv shows? What do you do when you're not thinking about freshly well so I'm going to get people a not so fun acted as a founder star? You spend a lot of your time. I spent a lot of time about fresh even when I'm not thinking about frustrating enough wrestling so so I spent a lot. I don't have hobbies by what I do. I am actually. I grew up with a pretty substantial learning disability so I was very very nice storm to this day very slow reader but I love acquiring knowledge so I feel unbelievably lucky to be at this time. Where podcast and audiobooks are available. May so I listened to probably to audio books a week. I'm pretty avid audiobook listeners. Your listeners can tell by the the rate that I speak. I listen audiobooks at three X. So I I bet that's quickly and I listened a lot of podcast. I'm you know it is. It's so cool. I think we live in an area. That's so fun to be able to hear. It doesn't matter what you're in. Whatever area interest rates and you get the Access for free to listen to some of the world's greatest people talk every single week on different things so it's You know. I'm an avid listener to podcast. And those of you. Who haven't done the podcast as obviously on a podcast. Soon most people listening to this our podcast but it is the greatest wealth of knowledge shorter. The Internet that you can tap into and it's it's. It's phenomenal. How much I learn every day from listening to podcasts. Fun fact about podcast. Well at least that we know of Is that podcasts. Have an unbelievable long lifespan meeting. Like so this podcast or podcast. We've done a ago. Might still get like twenty. Thirty forty fifty listens a day so these are probably people just finding us for the first time you know hearing stuff from a year ago which I mean. I don't think our company blogs work like that. You know what I mean like people talk a year as you get. It's getting better as it's getting better on indexing and following and stuff as it truly is amazing that you can listen to some one on one podcast them. WanNa listen more and then search them and and and and be able to hear some amazing. I mean I've I've dig Tim Ferriss. I've saw tim for very long. I'm and some of his guests. Is You know as many of you follow Tim. No that have spun out doing their own stuff and and you can follow him on. It's it's just for me. It's been a phenomenal ability to learn and you can take moments especially like New York Rome on the subway in a morning and I think those are the opportunities that encourage especially founders to do is is is there's a lot of information out there I even look at the difference from when I started freshly to today. How much that we had like struggled to find is now just kinda readily available in a lot of it is is sound bite. So it's it's not that you know that you're gonNA listen to this. Podcast agree with everything I say but there may be one tidbit one factoid. One thing that you agree with things are there Iowa. Say It's gold nuggets and and when you're when you're painting gold it all you need is the one nugget to make into day work while right so That's that's kind of I think about these things scenario an opportunity to take little things that are going to work for you in your life and try to implement so of the books you you. You consumed any recommend in Lineman now I think is probably one of the best books for Steven Pinker Book. That's probably listen to and read that a few times line now just about How I think there's so much of the media certainly if the news and things like that is is done on kind of a negative cycle about You know how were not in a great spot in the world in time in? It's it's really on how this is absolutely the greatest time to be Full Stop it's very. It's very data driven. So it's a very data but it's it's not a dry book very data driven on. How many great things are happening in the world Certainly it's an optimistic point of view on the things we need to fix and there are some things we certainly need to fix. But it's it's very uplifting Book on the realities of of how lucky we are to be alive at this point especially be alive for those of us in the United States with freedoms and opportunities for that are made available to us. I think in that He. He kinda crafts idea in that. We're lucky in our forefathers and people who've come to put us in this amazing world and it's up to us to make sure that we continue to to make this amazing place but it's a very uplifting book I think on on the state of the world today I think you you get can view view the glass half full or half empty. I think unfortunately so much of the noise today is is view of that. The glass is half full. I'm I'm an eternal optimist. I think we we have so many opportunities in. We're GONNA do amazing things in the next ten twenty years -ociety so That's a great book for that. Even pinker does a much better job articulating division than I do so I encourage people to listen that enlightenment Albert by Steven. Pinker all right. Well I'm GonNa talk about that books about it's great book. I encourage those of you who don't have an audible paid for this. This is not a paid. Audible is an amazing resources. Really really cool. You could turn every little waiting period into an opportunity to get smarter or just. Enjoy some great books about sports. Are you in a big sports fan? You dropped sports a couple times you know. I Love Sports I unfortunately have I. Don't watch any games anymore again. Speaking of podcast I listen to part in the era Every single day. It's with the way I get my sports. I listed on a podcast Maze Dean my Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser. Give me all my sports opinions. But I'm a big sports fan. 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Why Tech Keeps Getting Caught Up in U.S.-China Tensions
"So your business encountered an obstacle don't just bounce back bounds forward with comcast business get serious internet powered by the nation's largest GIG speed network be fast flexible ready for what's next and bounce forward learn more at comcastbusiness dot com. This is your tech news briefing. For Wednesday September ninth I'm Amanda Llewellyn by The Wall Street Journal the US has been working to shut Chinese technology out of its infrastructure and trying to convince other countries to do the same in response China's now launched its own initiative to set global standards for data security. The conflict between these two countries has been building for a while. Now today we break down why they're back and forth So often centers on tack our senior editor Bob Davis will help us with that after these headlines. There's another development in the battle between epic games and Apple. Last month epic made headlines when it launched a new payment system and its popular game fortnight bypassing. So called developer fees, that's the cut that apple and Google take on things like in-app purchases. Both companies removed the game from their APP stores and epoch leader sued them accusing them of anticompetitive conduct now, apple is counter suing it's asking a judge. To award punitive damages and restrict epic from what it's calling unfair. Business practices and tech stocks continued to decline yesterday following for the third straight trading session and pulling the rest of the market down with them. The Dow more than six hundred points and the tech heavy Nasdaq fell more than four percent that puts it into correction territory or down ten percent from its latest high, which was just last week. Big Tech has been among the biggest beneficiaries of the pandemic and the slump was sparked by growing concerns. Their shares climbed too far too fast shares of one major player. The Electric car company Tesla fell especially sharply. Here's our reporter David annoyed with more Tesla's certainly has been one of the big movers. Recently, I fell twenty one percent on Tuesday. It's session ever the big news came late Friday that really. Dented. This Week that the S. and P. Five hundred wasn't going to add it to its index, which people it's sort of been betting on assuming that if Tesla added to the five, hundred than other investors would be forced to buy it in index stocks and that would kind of lead a rally that even with the recent losses David says, tech companies could still hold onto at least some of their recent. Gains. I think a lot of people don't think that the rallies over the Nasdaq is still up some twenty percent this year facebook apple those guys are all up thirty percent Tesla's up quadrupled. It's not like this is going to disappear overnight people aren't really expecting that they're more just sort of think, hey, this is a decent chance to sort of reevaluate what's been happening this year as always coming back from from. The summer in September right right. After Labor Day. There's a little bit of a reset for traders people coming back from vacations. The market is going to be looking at the election and the economy and and what's happening with the coronavirus in all of that kind of collides and we see sort of simple back. So we'll see what happens. But right now everyone's willing to say this is the pullback not necessarily a collapse. Coming up why tech getting caught up in the growing conflicts between China and the US that's after the break. So your business encountered an obstacle. Don't just bounce back bounce forward with comcast business get serious internet powered by the nation's largest GIG speed network be fast be flexible be ready for what's next and bounce forward learn more at comcastbusiness dot com. Yesterday China that is launching an initiative that global standards on data security among other things on governments to respect other country's sovereignty in how they handled data essentially allowing each country to exercise full control over its corner of the Internet. The move is being seen as China's answer to the US's recently announced clean network program that's part of the US pushed to blacklist Chinese technology over concerns about how China handles data. We've been covering this tit for tat between the US and China for years at this point and as tensions ramp up between the two countries, it's often tech companies get caught in the crossfire that's not an accident dominance in technology is increasingly seen as being key to economic dominance our senior editor Bob Davis has been covering these countries for about twenty five years now, and he joins us to provide some context bob thanks for being here. Sure. Thanks for having me. So to start from the beginning, why are these two countries at odds? Goes back a long time. I. Mean I think the US had hoped? That by getting closer to China by engaging China would change Chinese behavior. So from the US side I, think there's a lot of disappointments essentially disappointment that China didn't change and become more like us, which was probably a Ni- view, but that's the way was seen, and then over the years, there's been more and more disenchantment with the way in which you know Chinese companies, the Chinese government pressure US companies to hand over technology from the Chinese side, which we don't hear quite as often I mean it's also the question of. Does the US really really allow China to develop in the way he thinks it ought to I mean the US talks all the time about. Allowing China to develop technologically and economically. But in China, there's a lot of questions about whether. That's really true and whether really what the US wants is for China to stay. Ten steps behind the US and will snuff out any effort by China really to to get ahead technologically. Yeah and why technology? Why does this battle seem to catch tech in the crossfire? Well, you know the fight between. China and the US under the trump administration certainly started with trade but you know trading what right I mean you're trading technology is one of the biggest exports from the united. States. And also from China actually. And it's also you know I mean what's the industries of the future the industries of the future going to be based on one new technology or another, and so you know technology becomes a trade issue technology becomes a military issue technology becomes an economic issue is just It's one of the keys of the twenty first century. And what is the risk that each country sees in each other's dominance on that front well for the US the. Concern, is that if these Chinese companies get a toehold outside of China, they will become stalking horses or or or are already stalking horses for the government and the Party and the government and the party are one in the same I mean we may. US makes the distinction between them, but they're really no difference whatsoever. In so you know I, mean if Americans are using TIKTOK or we chat Americans are talking over telecommunication system powered by. Wow. Way that that information you get scooped up more easily by the Chinese government. That's that's their concern. You know I think from the Chinese point of view the concern is being way too dependent on. American. Technology. And if they are so dependent on American technology, is that limit their ability to advance because they will need additional supplies and additional access to the latest technology and you mentioned Alway Tiktok, we chat individual companies that have been sort of lightning rods for regulations. So why has this battle been? So focused on them in particular? Well, these are the companies that are China's biggest and best technology companies that have an international presence I mean the US doesn't care about some tech company that only sells in China I mean, the idea is that you know Weiwei's building a wants to build the infrastructure the twenty first century right? Five G. Telecommunications tiktok amazingly successful company that has you know millions and millions of users in the US we chat is just a giant in China. It's a little less well known in the US, but I mean it is the key communications. Channel to China. So I mean there are the companies that you know that have made it. That are the companies that represent China's ability innovate China as many other international companies they have gigantic. He's and gigantic gas companies. They're less of an issue I. mean you know the oil industry is dominated by state owned companies from the Middle East as well as from China. So it's less of a surprise and. Those companies really aren't competing on the best the you know the very best technology where we more commonly think of technology you know semiconductors and software, and so on. I mean these are China's leading firms and taking step back for a second pretty much any piece of technology is the result of global supply chain parts get made in one country software might. Get designed in another end maybe the finished product gets bought in yet another country. So if this conflict keeps up, are we going to see that change? I think the supply chain is inherently international I mean smart people all over the world right and the most you know the most efficient way to tap the brain power all over the world is to. To operate all over the world right and. If. It changes it will change because the political reasons not technological reasons not economic reasons and that has happened in the past i. mean there's nothing inevitable about technology spreading internationally nothing inevitable about to Connie's growing closer together mean we'll were one was the most famous example of that where prior to World War One it looked as if the world which may Europe that time but It looked as if the world was moving ever closer together. Well, yeah. Did until it didn't and then war tore it apart. I'm not predicting a war between the US and China and God forbid but it all I'm saying is that politics can trump technology five year our resident expert on this. What are you going to be paying attention to as this conflict continues to develop? You know we're watching a trade war morph into technology more morph into a human rights concerns and who knows maybe into military conflict I. Mean I think there's a couple of things one you know how deep will this division get? That's number one, number two there is an election in two months. We'll see you know who wins. Biden wins may be you know a least a difference in tone on the part of the US administration and if trump wins, it's not to say that this conflict gets deeper and deeper. Maybe in the second term he decides to you know try again for a trade deal that temps down all the other issues. So it's it's unclear but. You, know the impact of the election is just enormous Wall Street Journal Senior Editor Bob Davis. Bob, thanks for joining. US. Thank you. That's it. For today's tech news briefing. You can find more tech stories on our website wsj.com and if our show please do rate nervous in your APP store, it really does help I'm your host Ellen. Thanks for listening.
Countdown to the Election: 3 Possible Scenarios for Your Money
"Invesco q. q. Q. believes new innovations create new opportunities. Here's to greater possibilities together. Learn more at invesco dot com slash q. q. q. invesco distributors inc. Family and. this is fast money. Tonight's trader lineup. Guide me tim taylor. Karen feinerman and dan nathan tonight on fast. We are trading. The vote calmly has a three big market scenarios. That could play based off. Tomorrow's results floss. Morgan stanley is rolling the dice on biden. They say this casino operator could hit the jackpot if he win the white house and later dan winding up fast pitch. She says if you play this social media stuff just right. It could be a total home. Run we start off at the pre election pop stocks rallying on the eve of tomorrow's vote the dow notching its biggest gain in almost a month every sector finishing the day in the green. Today's rally coming after the market handed in its worst week since march. So what does today's market action. Tell us about tomorrow's big vote guy. What do you say. Hi mel you like my. I got an election haircut. Took it down. You can see that in your monitor. Yeah high and tight end tight. It's interesting what does it tell you today. I think a lot of people squaring up ahead of the election. The vix suggests there's still a lot of concern the vix a one point today was positive and they can trade up to thirty closed. Thirty seven and a half. That's still obviously elevated this. I said last week now. You saw a huge movement to fix from twenty four to forty it mirrors the move. We saw from june eighth to june eleventh when the vix went from twenty four to forty and the s. and p. five hundred went from thirty to fifty to three thousand in a straight line so the moves are pretty much identical in terms of percentage. I think if there's a concession speech tomorrow night into the wee hours of wednesday morning this makes thirty eight has probably twenty-eight handle and if there's no concession speech. I think this thirty eight vicks remains at thirty eight. That's the rub a lot of people. Think it accelerates here. I think it stays here so that's the way i'm looking at the world right and let's be clear concession speech by either candidate you're saying basically a resume either said by either by either. Yes clarify that and i thought i said i'll say it again by either candidate. A concession speech takes this fixed from thirty eight to the low thirty s if not the heights in terms of what we saw within the markets in terms of sector action today we saw definite tilt towards value towards cyclical we saw financials and industrials outperformed small and mid over large cap technology underperforming. Karen does that provide any tea. Leaves what we can expect tomorrow if it did. I can't read those tea leaves. I'm actually pretty surprised with how the market did today. I thought that some of the news out of europe about lockdowns would have effect here and the idea. I know that there is no appetite for locked out to the united states. But that doesn't mean that people won't change their behavior. Even if it's not mandated so i was a little surprised that the market was up and up as much as it was. It was just some stocks. Were ridiculous thing. Names obviously didn't do well and then you have the value names you had you are. I was up fourteen dollars for no reason. No reason why they had earnings last week if it's because of an infrastructure bill under either biden or trump. That was probably true on friday. So i don't really get it. I don't i didn't change anything in my portfolio today. 'cause i don't know what to make of it if you told me what exactly what's going to happen tomorrow night. I still wouldn't know what to make of it exactly dan. What's your theory. Yes these guys mentioned a little bit about the underperformance mega-complex here today. And i think it's pretty interesting because i think it touches on a lot of themes that are going on as it relates to the election and obviously one of them would be no matter what happens. You're going to have regulatory headwinds. You're also going to have the potential if you had a biden win a senate flip of higher taxes higher capital gains taxes so these are obviously big winners on the year. This might be a reason to take some profits and then the other one would just be valuation. I think that if we were to see a more cyclical bent because of fiscal stimulus and infrastructure spending. And just a reflation trade on the other side of the virus. Then you're to want to move into some of the under performers. So that's what we kind of saw today. So that's what i think a lot of the positioning has been. Obviously that could create a whole heck of a lot of volatility if we do not have a decisive victory one way or another and then we are really in just a political quagmire for weeks or months about a contested election in under that scenario. No stocks in my opinion Ten which of the nineteen questions supposed to answer about Just kidding let me let me scenario analysis. I think if you have the a biden win and a gop senate. I think big tech will continue to rally. I actually think that. Type of a stalemate think the discussion about infrastructure and resource stocks I think they're bid either way. And i think certainly that is the sense that we've had from The price action i. There's there's a number of different things that can happen But but the bottom line here is if you if you think that we get a massive change in washington and you get a blue wave of sorts. I think the market in the short term has a period of elation because of the things that have been discussed and fears of unrest more conciliatory policy globally. But let's not mistake Wh what that would mean for higher taxes higher regulation and the trade off against a one off stimulus bill which may be massive You the multiplier effect. That is nothing like those other things. So i think in the short run we are certainly trying to handicap the next twenty four hours. Forty eight hours but I think we look at the road. You're scenario analysis needs to be very very different and you have to get back to some of the fundamentals here But in the short run. Look i think big cap tech has a ways to to pull back a bit more but that ultimately that will be the place people run for cover. And i think we're only three or four percent away from a pretty significant base around two fifty on the trip accused. Would you agree with that guy. I mean if there is a blue wave and let's be clear. We're not rooting for per any sort of outcome. We're just simply trading the outcome that a lot of wall street right now is betting on the conventional wisdom right now is blue wave and so let's let's go down that path if there is a blue wave short term pop in the markets because of of the certainty because maybe biden could be perceived as being a harder and tougher in terms of pandemic measures But in the longer term a lot of a lot more uncertainty regarding tighter regulations particularly on financials perhaps as well as higher taxes the only thing. I'm rooting for mel is for a representative showing my football giants this evening against the the tampa bay buccaneers number. One out there. So that's that's where my rooting interest is and i do agree with tim. In terms of the way this thing sets up without question. I do think although people obviously talk about higher taxes i think we'll be offset by the fact that maybe we'll have a stronger enforcement of measures that make the virus might keep a safer longer. I know now. I'm stumbling over my words so i'm trying not to be political here but i do think it probably sets up okay for the market. Not all the market though i think banks could come under pressure if there is a blue wave obviously and i think these infrastructure names which we have talked about. We'll continue to do well. And i think the tim's point technology will do while quickly. I'll say this and we mentioned it last week. I thought that earnings release by google far and away was the best of the five of the f. mega-complex dan talks about and i can make an argument that google is actually cheaper on valuation basis. Now than it was ten percent to the downside ago. yeah karen. I'm guessing that you see that as well for google alphabet. Yes yeah. i think it's a better by today. Even a post earnings than it was before. I mean that quarter was really extraordinary and i think some of it was ad spending. I assume so. We won't see that as much. But i mean youtube and on every metric every metric. It was good and so also. I think that we'll continue to see more clarity. Which has always helped us every time. Google gives us more information about other beds or about youtube. And it'll be about cloud. It trades better so very happy owning it here dan. Yeah so. I think the just when we're talking about this f- maga- again we gotta go back to also net flicks. We gotta go back to spotify report. We gotta go back to twitter and think about some of the things that have happened over the last nine or ten months or so. There was a massive poll ford. And we've seen that a lot of demand that is right and so we've seen that a lot of these names and all the sudden now. Valuation is kind of becoming a little bit of a thing and interest rates have ticked up a little bit and we're kind of getting back to some of those more classic market themes election or not. I think it's really important to keep an eye on that. And then the last point is that you know about this election we could. If we had a blue wave we might not get further stimulus until february or maybe even a bit longer. So i know that people were really excited about that number. That's backward-looking when i'm looking at. Is this huge. The chazan if you will of american citizens who are literally really having a very tough time and so i think the outlook going forward for a lotta these names. That were relying on consumer spending when they had these expanded unemployment benefits and stuff. It's not there right now. So i think the next few months is probably going to be a lot harder than what. Today's market action is telling us about any optimism about the economy. And maybe that's why pop after a blue wave could be very short-lived tim. I mean it is true that if we don't get simulates until next year that could not only cause damage to the economy now but it could. It could cause lasting scars in the economy. You have more people out of work for longer Who will need new skills when they come out of it there they might have jobs that don't exist anymore later on the longer this goes on so we're looking at real consequences here to to waiting for that stimulus. Even though the markets may say it's coming it's coming it's coming it may not be coming soon enough. Yeah although i do think the nature of the virus and the way that at least you should. And i know we stalled on on on stimulus with the last month and a half but but the reality is that the virus gets worse. They're going to have to step forward. I don't care who's in power and otherwise we got major major problems but yes. The small business in this country is on their knees in many sub industries especially a hospitality and entertainment restaurants. I i don't know why. I've got my own views on this. Actually run a small business. But i i. I think that there's a lot that will need to be done. I just think the the expectation that the market is going to be in a better place. Even if you know Everything on the other side if that other side again i guess we have to stop with. Our words did not sound political. I'm just making a market observation. I believe in terms of an outcome that would be all blue A relief at first. And then i think we'd have a lot of problems for the market The we've been talking about valuation for months but if you are in that environment what has been defensive. And it has been mega cap tech and back to that google conversation. It's interesting though because google effectively finished flat today and yes. It had a pop on friday after the best of the four. But but it's concerning how that group is trading and that may you in the short run where they think the market is gonna see. Elections got a market flash here on twitter. Julia abortions got store julia. Melissa we're getting some of the results of twitter's work with elliott management with activist shareholder elliott management twitter announcing that it's going to be commencing. Its stock buyback. It'll begin its authorized. Share repurchase program also had give some updates on succession planning. So this is basically this. This statement here from twitter is the result of the management structure committee that was formed in response to that pressure. From elliott management so the management structure committee report reported to twitter's board that it had concluded its work and gave these recommendations which twitter's board expect accepted including amending twitter's board structure to no longer have to no longer have a staggered board also assessing the current management structure and working to update the ceo succession plan in line with best practices also evaluating company in management performance according to a range of factors. So and of course. Then there's that share repurchase program. So i think what's important here. Melissa is this shows that elliott and twitter together have now are making changes based on those and everything's starting to come into place here and of course. We are very curious to hear with that. Ceo succession planning is. Yeah julia thank you. Watch twitter shares. Climb in the afternoon hours session now. Closest session highs up two and a quarter percent. I think what. Julia had outlined in terms of the share. Buyback that's interesting but also no longer having a staggered board which means that the entire board could be voted out more easily to affect change potentially at the company. That's also very interesting Dan is this going to sort of answer. The question about growth at twitter after that last earnings report yeah. I don't think it does much to answer the question about user growth. They were very disappointing but again there was a huge ford. They had a massive addition to the monetize daily active users in q two big disappointment in q. Three but their ad revenues did start to come back and they spoke to that a little bit. How ended the september quarter. And how october was looking. So you put this news top of it and the stock down twenty five percent in just three trading days and you say to yourself okay. This might be a pretty good entry point especially when you're comparing it to some of its periods like pinterest and snapchat which just blew the doors off with user growth. And next year they're going to have similar sorta revenue growth karen. What's your quick take on. What elliott has managed to extract from twitter. Will the buyback is good and as you said as pointed out on the staggered board moving that creates a easier pathway for someone to come take control. I also think remembered jack dorsey. One time was thinking of living half the time in africa. So that didn't really fly with elliot but now the succession planning is important. As young as jackie is and i believe he's very engaged but still you need a succession plan so positive. What i don't know is if elliott gave up anything like they wouldn't put a slate on any candidates. I'm not sure about that. But it's a small positive not as important though as the earnings were the other day. Yep all right. Twitter shares up almost two percent right now is a countdown to the election. Next gusts laying out the three big market scenarios quickly at base off tomorrow's results. Let's trade the votes with tom. Lee had a research at funds. Strat global advisors. Tom a great to have you with us. Let's start off with the base case scenario which is a blue wave. That's right and a heading into election day. We're making the assumption that investors aren't fire strike. So it's been an emotional. Two weeks retail investor cash is actually risen so we know people are just waiting for some certainty and the base case in our view is is a blue wave it's reflected from the polls and from the betting markets and while i heard what you guys talk about. I think that this results in ten percent rally in equities so snp roughly thirty six hundred. Because you're going to get a pretty big lift in cyclicals based on fiscal stimulus. The feldstein easy just a relief rally. I think that's offset somewhat by tech potentially trailing because of the risk of both increased regulation and higher taxes. Okay so that's the base case. The other scenario would basically be status quo correct. Yes so. I think that the surprise case would be that trump is reelected and the senate remains republican and the reason. It's a surprises of course because the polling markets aren't reflecting this in the betting markets are shown trump is an underdog but the reason. I think this is actually a positive surprise. I think the stock market might rally fifteen to seventeen. Percents is something like snp thirty seven hundred and the reason for that is. We've got the possibility of less regulatory risk. Like less regulation. We're going to have less risk of lockdowns because of the current administration's approach and we have the possibility of a tax cut. So i think you're going to get a big school. Rally plus tech keeps running and extra juice is how you get to thirty seven hundred on the sap. Okay and the third scenario is some form of contested election. Yes and so a contested election. I heard you guys say that. It's uncertainty and i agree it's uncertainty but it's it's actually less uncertainty so incrementally it certain because now we're through the election night and the reason i think you still get a five to seven percent rally. Who's snp thirty five hundred is number one. I think washington goes back to two things you know. Focus on what's who's controlling the senate but we're also likely to get fiscal stimulus pass for year end and the fed is likely going to make some intervention or announcement invention or prepare to announce intervention if the markets are stable sliding the market still gets a lift in thirty. One hundred is just taking us disorder that two weeks before election day so basically all the scenarios that you outlined tom. The markets will be higher. Is that right. That doesn't sound right to me. It's a win win win. No matter what yes and the reason cornell is we've gone through excruciating two weeks where the markets lost nearly ten percent because nobody rationally was buying equities. But we've had a lot of selling repositioning. So hard of our presumption is we've had a huge imbalance. We've had sellers for two weeks. Were down eight percent caches reason on the sidelines. At sky point out the vix has gone to levels of very high levels of anxiety in a drop in the vix plus moving cash on the sidelines. Still going to get us around. So i'm glad you mentioned that because that's sort of my question. I guess my opinion that concession speech either way takes the vix from today's close of thirty nine down to the low thirty s. If not the high twenties but does does they can have. We already priced in with a thirty nine vicks a contested election. Is that sorta your point. The entire negative scenario somewhat priced in vis-a-vis the vix. I believe so. I mean i'm going to make an assumption here but the are active institutional equity investors have done a lot of hedging either in the derivatives markets futures. So they they have not bet on this two weeks being smooth. They've bet on a lot of tournaments so that is going to be repositioning post election and then on the retail investor side. I think that's why the cash balances have actually been creeping up for the last three or four weeks so investors are essentially on the sidelines because they are better prepared for a contested election so concession you know a clear outcome would be a massive blue signal. Tom great to speak with you. Thanks thanks tom. Lee of fun straw and by the way. Cnbc will a full team coverage of tomorrow night's election starting at seven pm eastern and going throughout the entire night all the way through squawk box. So you won't want to miss that. Let's let's trade. Tim i i noticed that. You're sort of smirking. When tom outlined the three winning scenarios because every scenario is a winning scenario for the snp. Apparently well never smoking at tom. Tom tom is certainly taking a glass. Half full approach to three scenarios. That that that. I i think the market has a lot of anxiety. Yes but the market has reason for a lot of anxiety and a lot of dysfunction and valuations. That aren't terribly cheapen an economy. That yeah i know we had thirty two percent. Gdp number and and there's a reason why so this week we also have a payroll number. We have we have the fed And i think we have other things that the market can focus on which is back to some fundamentals. I think the the parts of the rally today so our market conversation. A rebound in housing. I think is important And housing related trades. Because i think that is something that continues into the second part and notice. Oil oil has priced in the fact that basically A blue wave and yet today. It acted very different. I think there's good news in oil especially in the expectation that the surprise might be something that is not priced into well all right coming up a jackpot of a trade one. Big bank says roll island. Despacito operator of biden wins. The white house will bring you that name. But i for all over the stars action and chairs of pay pal the company just hosting results. The call is now underway will break down the numbers from fast money return. I want people to feel like they just learn something. We have journalists in the corners of the universe. I can't wait to get all of those resources under one hour. Long newscast where we can deliver the facts of the day clearly and concisely in context and with perspective. And tell people what's happening. What it all means. Get the truth. Not the spin. The news with shepard smith subscribe to the podcast today. Welcome back to fast money. Check shares of pay pal sinking after its latest earnings report or k. Rooney joins us now with the numbers. Kate they expectations pretty high heading into the third quarter for pay pal. Despite six percent drop in the stock after hours pay pal did see what the ceo just told me was a record. Third quarter the payments company beating on the top and bottom line. They also raised some of their full year guidance. Paypal saw highest revenue growth. Ever that was twenty five percent year over year that came in at a total five point four billion that was better than expected non gap. Eps also beat by thirteen cents. Total payments volume was also its highest ever that came in two hundred and forty seven billion which was better than analysts. Were expecting over that. Total forty four billion came from venom. No that was up about sixty percent year. Over year we just got a couple of highlights from the call now which is still underway. Ben now has sixty five million users. That's a jump from sixty million users which was last Pay pal had reported. They expect more revenue to approach nine hundred million dollars next year and to make a positive contribution to their transaction margin dollars analysts have been waiting for motors start adding to pay pals bottom line. So that's certainly. A highlight from the call so far paper also raised its full year earnings guidance and payments volume guidance with the double digit growth there and despite some double digit eps guidance for q four that was still lower than expected and analysts are saying that that could be part of the reason. The stock is getting a hit here after hours. I asked ceo. Dan showman about the miss. He said they're spending about three hundred million dollars on some of these digital products and some of that spending could add to the earnings miss in the fourth. Quarter shulman also tells me that. He is cautiously cautiously optimistic. Heading into next year you mentioned some of the macro uncertainty things like the virus vaccine going into next year but all of his digital acceleration in the economy and the rise of ecommerce of course is helping pay pal back to you guys all right. Thanks so much. Kate rooney with those numbers again. Fourth quarter guidance coming in below what consensus estimates were guy. How pay pal here a white right now. I know dan nathan has his chart up. And he's looking at the major double top to fifteen from the early september high and then again on october. Twenty four number one one seventy five is where we subsequently traded down to between september october. It needs to hold their. The quarter was remarkable. If you look at transactions up thirty percent year over year seven percent quarter over quarter margins were better stock running evaluation and a technical breakdown. I'll say this though and this is not directed at cake because she did a great job cautiously optimistic should be removed from the lexicon of every ceo in the united states. It's one of the dumbest things that anybody can say. In my opinion why is this so dumb cautiously optimistic. Optimistic pen yeah. I'm cautiously optima. How many times have you heard that an enrolled your eyes. I know it's countless overused term. But it actually has meaning. I think in this context of of where the economy is now. I mean ten over. Dan is saying no it. Doesn't tim agrees with me. I wa. I think guys have too much coffee today. Come on dude back down. I mean. I think it's not an oxymoronic term. Which is what it sounds like your criticism was. It is frustrating. When when ceo don't get out there and say yes we're actually concerned about the quarter or the environment is such that we we were bombastic about it. But they're not going to do that. So look pal. The story is that this is one of the darling stocks that was a beneficiary not only of of kobe and ecommerce and friction payments. But also. Just the ppp loans. Eighty five times trailing. This is a stock that that needs to pull back and it doesn't matter what they reported for the fourth quarter. It was weaker but this was the was one of the names out there. All right. we've got much more ahead here. Pass money here's what is coming up next red or blue. Whoever wins the election one thing is for sure. There's regulation coming for big tech. So what's that mean for the venture capital space. We'll get some answers. Plus just how. Much volatility could've contested election bring to the market. What options traders are betting on when fast returns. Welcome back to fast money. We were just one day away. From the election. Tomorrow's outcome could have a big impact on venture capital joining us. Now is a man with a lot of experience in the world. He was an early investor. Lululemon has current portfolio includes. Names like rent the runway harry's and threat up. Let's bring in. Bob davis partners highland capital bob. Welcome to you great to have you with us route to see you. How are you good. Good thanks got asked about. The election does a change in administration at all impact the environment for the kinds of investments. That you make. I don't know if the investments we've made. But i mean i think the bigger risk is a whole period of uncertainty into the markets. And that would frighten me a little bit. I don't know how it all plays out. If we have a clear winner Coming up tomorrow next week or the week after. I think we're good if we're fighting this over two or three months to winners. And who our president is. I think that's a market out there so we're not gonna see anything like that. I mean i have. I have a good friend who golf buddy might rutland forcing a call my sunset. Is you guys me so clearly. In all we do. And he says don't focus on the single shot. Focus on the game lines and i think that's what we have to think about. This has all been done is is odd as a out as the big picture. Walk not a individual day. Look and i want to ask you about the game. At large the game at large at least for right now is being shaped by the pandemic. And i'm wondering if that impacts the kinds of investments that you're making these days and how you examine investments now in companies and how they're built for future years you know it's interesting when we look at a company our criteria pretty simple. It always has been we think about people market product and not order and then if we get back figured out we'll talk about the eel but people market product and really great people build great companies. And that's been the case and it will stay that way and it was great about that. What what's taking a lot of getting used to is trying to do a deal. Virtual i mean when the pandemic for and we all got into lockdown. We sat around the meetings. Of course we can't make investments without meeting the team. How do we invest millions of dollars into someone we've never met and lo and behold we've adopted and we've made some great deals but it's changed things a lot in terms of our criteria but at the same time some industries that have been hurt by. They've been we all know those are but there's a lot on the consumer front that had some really powerful tailwind that have helped them freshly that we announced last week on cnbc. the acquisition of that by nestle is a good example of that really strong company growing in leaps and bounds but the pandemic l. but short but with more customers together charon epidemics pandemic. It's also helping a name like lulu who you invested early. And bob and i'm wondering in terms of how you look at those tailwinds give you the lived or do you think this marks a real change i mean. How many pairs of yoga pants are you going to to own. If you're actually going back to work and have to wear proper pants you'll looks great question. Well we're not public market investor. So i'm not nearly as smart as those guys and you guys and gals on your panel talk about public stocks. And how they play the way. I'll think about it. Portfolio we see fundamental. Change behavior. Taking place that i think will be long lasting. Do the tailwinds survive at the level. They are today. who knows. But i think we'll see fundamental changes. We have a small company up in boston. Love that makes a physical reading charge beautiful sculptures and people who as instead of flowers the can barely keep up with the business in terms of what people are doing. Just what nolan going into. Cbs or walmart or anywhere else to buy going longline saying ship. It's woman and things like this. Take a small company and let's itself ands of millions of dollars in cards. I mean that's a fundamental. Change would have believed that two or three years ago. But so i think that many of these businesses we'll see a constant and long lasting change into tumor behavior that will never stop at. We'll be the level of this today. Probably not but they'll be complete changes in consumer behaviour. Thanks so much for your time. We hope you'll come back soon. Anytime davis highland capital. Karen feinerman some whatever. He is somewhat of a legend here. In the bbc world. He also was associated with an internet bubble named white ghost which is an early search engine. So he's really seen at all in terms of the tailwinds will actually be long-lasting bob had said i think some. Will i think that work from home. We're going to have more people working from home. A greater percentage of the time than they did before even if we have a complete vaccine one hundred percent effective. I just think that's too. That changes too hard to undo. But i think some selling something like freshly that was a good sale would be my bed. That do you think that maybe good for them. Dan quick thoughts here. I just gotta look at karen. And i gotta tell you you do. Haircut is fire. I'm gonna take cairns haircut over guys haircut right here. I got a lady. I got a. I got a sec issue here. I've got all kinds of fancy on the blinds down. It's time to light. Here's the one quick point i would say is the acceleration in anything e commerce commerce. Obviously you're gonna see deceleration after the pandemic but that pull forward and that demand that's going to be here to stay and i think that's the takeaway just some of this behavior. That's that's changed in the last nine months coming up. Tonight's big number. We'll tell you how many ad dollars were spent on this election. Who already came out the big winner but i. Dan is getting ready to throw a change of. He's got a fast pitch with an options. Twist on one social media stock. The name fast money returns. Welcome back to pass money unless you are living under a rock. E likely bartered with political ads. This presidential election cycle so just how much money was spent. And who are the big winners here. Julia abortion joins us with that julia. Well melissa this was a record. Political ad spending this cycle eight point. Three billion dollars has been spent if you look just at spending on traditional media political ad spending is up more than two and a half times from the two thousand sixteen cycle to six point. Seven billion dollars now of those traditional ad dollars the biggest beneficiary is broadcast tv bringing in four and a half billion dollars in spending from two point four billion four years ago. Sorry two billion four years ago now. The biggest winners of that rush of political ads bending are the companies that own the local tv networks of the most from its march lows is next is up ninety. Two percent while sinclair is of eighty percent e w scripps up seventy three percent from his slow at the beginning of april great television of fifty three percent and tacna up twenty eight percent now it is worth noting that despite those bounces from the spring all five of those companies are down this year and all the stocks are having their worst year since two thousand eight weighed down by risks that after the election include cord cutting as well as dollars continue to shift from tv spending to digital now while broadcast tv still dominates political ad spending. It is losing share from seventy five percent for years ago to sixty percent market share this year as digital platforms to continue to make gains and the big winners from political ads. Growth on digital are google and facebook as well as the streamers such as disney's hulu and peacock which is of course owned by comcast cnbc's parent company but remember. The election is not giving a boost to twitter. It's not accepting political ads. Guys back over to you. All right julia. Thank you karen. What's your take. Since you own both alphabet and facebook trying to think about moderating how good the quarter was because the spend was so big but also i think about for disney. Probably a little bump for them with their with their network but I think it's going to be short. Lived so we can't. So if i were one of those sinclair's i would sell into this strength for sure. All right well speaking of twitter. It's a name that that is on. Dan nathan radar stepping up to the mound with a fast pitch. The dan it away. Yes so thursday afternoon when we were dissecting their q. three results. I think the whole panel. We were very disappointed. That monthly active user or the daily active user number was was not great. There were some bright spots as far as their ad business and they did have some cautiously optimistic commentary about how things are picking up a little bit into q. Four at the time. The stock was at forty three. I said wait until about forty so today at about thirty nine. What the stock do it hit the uptrend from its march low. That was some good technical support. I think that this stock got thrown out baby with the bathwater. I do not see why this thing should have. Enterprise value of thirty billion while snap has an enterprise value of sixty billion. So i think this is a scarce social property here. I think they're going to focus more on new products and services. They're going to update that february. Twenty eighth at their analysts meeting. If you wanna be contrarian here this is how i play it. Let's do a little. Oh here i go to the options market here. You just had that bounce off of that technical support here. I'd look out to january expiration today when the stock was trading at thirty nine you could buy the january forty fifty call spread paying two dollars and fifty cents for that. That is your max risk. Six and a half percent of the stock price breaks even at forty two and a half and you can have gains of up to seven and a half dollars between forty two and a half and fifty. And that's how you play back for the gap fill under forty dollars. You lose that two and a half bucks but the way. I'm thinking about this. You could buy the stock here and your risk is probably to the mid thirties if things really just crop out over the next few weeks or there's something more stock specific about this story but if you get the stock moving back we've got some good news in the after hours. We talked about it moving back forty. Then you got the stock in that range on the move back up to fifty four that gap i like the risk reward here risking two and a half dollars to possibly make up and a half dollars between now and mid january. That's a long time for this thing to play out. So i like the way of being contrarian here with the fine risk and being optimistic about it. Tim has questioned for dan. Tim dan i appreciate the call. I think it's impressive. you're going for. You're going to try to dial nine twice on twitter with fast pitch here and you done. You've done great by. I think the market got overly worked up over the da us one. In fact that ad revenue up fifteen percent year over year was incredibly strong. Our margins were strong in the profitability. I mean what should we be looking at with. This company is my question because it seems like people can't pick what's the most important metric so great question tim. I think there's a lot of things going on over at facebook. We heard a lot about social commerce. People are pretty excited about that. There's so many things that this company can do. Innovate they have this. Massive balance have seven billion dollars in cash. I think they're going to look to kind of go outside their lane a little bit. And i think those are the sorts of things that we're gonna hear about as we work towards that analysts meeting in february there was a report by somebody over the last couple of days they made by sub stack for longer form stuff new products new services more engagement. All right no more questions. It's time to vote or you bytedance pitch on twitter. We'll start off with the one crossover member of fast money options action guy. Ajami what do you say. That was a great power. Pitch mel dialing nine refers to dialing nine for long distance. I learned not to quote sweet from dan nathan. He told me about twitter etiquette. I also noticed a traded three times normal volume today. I didn't think it was going down. Twenty five percent. I still think the best days. Lie ahead great. Power-pitch damn right. Tim seymour. I'd much rather buy a stock down. Twenty five and up twenty five at least in this case when those numbers were very solid. Da is disappointing. But he's dialed nine again. Folks nine again karen. Yes i like the pitch to you can see this buyer of the spread. I liked the risk reward that spread option to action there. Yeah turn of events dance considering on the mid day call. We're all joking about how people be writing. No one their whiteboards before hearing this pitch so you really broken in your favorite here. The traders has spoken. It is your turn out there to vote. Are you buying fast. Pitch has a twitter and voting or live. Paul at cnbc. Fast money will reveal the answer later in the show up. Next wind chairs hitting the jackpot y one major wall street firms. He's a big political tailwind. If biden takes the white house the details vast money return back to check out shares. A win jumping today. After morgan stanley upgraded to overweight raise its price targets and ninety five dollars a share among the catalyst for the stock up potential biden. Victory analysts they're saying and improve relationship between the us and china under a democratic presidency could benefit wins business in mccowan specifically that issue of concessions. Tim what do you say about this upgrade. Not enough of the reasonable the stock. I think the issues that they're facing both here at home and in in asia. i mean. look macau if you look at the last Gdr numbers gross gaming revenues You can see that. Vip and premium mass are nowhere and expectations for golden week. Or not supposed to be high. I you know. I wouldn't say you run terribly far away from the stock i think. Seventy two to seventy five dollars is proven. Be a pretty good line in the sand. But i would not be buying on changing the government. That's not the reason the stock. Yeah guy. Quick las vegas sands to me is the one that potentially is spring loaded as they seemingly getting away from vegas and going that route to make a good point but if you see any incremental improvements there i think. Lvs is the one might be spring loaded. yes i used. The term spring loaded coming up that index is on the move. How should you prepare for an election. Outcome we'll dive into the options pits for that trait much more fast money right after this pass money. We are on the eve of election day and there has been plenty of commentary centered around. How much market volatility we could see after tomorrow's vote one trader in the options market is actually betting. The worst might be over my coast. Got the action. He mike other. Yeah so in the vix. Today we saw puts out trade calls by almost two to one on above average volume and the most active options we saw today where the december twenty puts those are the puts on the december vicks future at one point. Forty-three thousand of those cross. The tape for about twenty-three cents ultimately over forty eight thousand of them traded of those puts are obviously betting that the december future could decline now for weeks. We've been talking about the fact that we've seen higher than average of implied volatility beyond the election date but this could be the first sign of the election. net of course of an uptick in covid cases. That we're actually seeing some optimism. Some that perhaps the worst of the volatility maybe soon behind us. All right mike. Thanks for that. Might co for more options action tune into the full show. That's friday at five thirty pm eastern time and by the way. Keep it right here tomorrow for full team coverage of the election. Cnbc we live throughout the night. It all kicks off at seven pm eastern time we go right up through. Squawk box will be there for every move of the night up next there. Still time to vote and our twitter. Poll that is. Are you buying dance. Fastpitch head over at cbc fast. Money will reveal the result. We come right back. Welcome back to fast money. It is time to find out of yours at home or buying dance fast. Pitch on twitter. It was tight tight race. But they're not re tweeting. Your pitch. that means you lost fifty. Three percent voted. No the rest voted. Yes so sorry. Dan Time for the final trae. Let's go around the horn tensing war in a risky environment. Google has to me the least risky business model and the best valuation of mega cap tech stocks. So google is my election play dan. Yeah i'm gonna stick with twitter here. They gave us enough to look forward to with the stock down at support here down twenty five percent three days so i like it here with the fibrous. Chairwoman make these. Us markets look at other markets. Young china reported earnings a couple of days ago. Very good stock was up a couple of blocks. It's back down like china guy down there. You cautiously optimistic. It's i wake up. Cautiously i go to bed cautiously optimistic. That'll wake up in the morning. You take such joy. In the demeanor of dan. Myself and tim when we lease pitches. No you do. What's the mega sands roll. The bones mel back to you. Thanks for watching fast back here tomorrow. For more meantime mad money with jim cramer starts right now. Cnbc's workforce executive council is the premier group assise see human resources executives from leading companies across the country. It offers a members. Only portal and chat plus exclusive industry contact with access to breaking news calls and digital networking experiences the network resources. Hr leaders need now. Apply to the workforce executive council at cnbc councils dot com slash wnyc.
From the Bleachers #13: Playoffs?!
"Be just bushes. I This strange man Welcome to the the first ever playoff addition of the from the bleachers podcast. I'm your host as always shame as clancy come into you from this. Glorious victory reminding on the Wonderful Bleed Green Nation Radio podcast network. Now just think where you were a month ago. The Eagles played the Miami Dolphins on December. I I record the podcast about that. Dolphins game on December second today is recording. This on money will probably listening to this on Tuesday today is is January or December thirtieth in those twenty eight days in those four weeks. The story of this eagle season has flipped so dramatically con m night shyamalan movie keeping it with a Philly theme. What a twist? What a twist to go from five and seven losing on the road and complete league? Barry I said on this podcast I had never been in my life on a single day for one single day. More embarrassed to be a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles to devote my entire life part of my livelihood. My second job. Whatever you WANNA call it tons of money for tickets merchandise food and beer and everything to watch games tailgating everything in my life revolved around the eagles for that moment? In time I had never been. I'm more embarrassed for a single moment. There been more seasons. There was Twenty fifteen there was twenty twelve. You know the Dream Team all of those things but for that single day I just thought what am I doing what am I doing. Why am I so invest in this? What am I doing with this team? We're doing the me twenty eight days later a movie. I have never seen in. But I assume it's about being a Philadelphia Eagles Fan 'cause twenty eight days later I'm good enough for a playoff run first ever playoff edition of this podcast. The first time I'm ever doing a podcast about a playoff team the eagles four straight wins Carson Wentz. Dare I say having a more impressive. KRESA run than anything he did throughout his MVP copper twenty seventeen season look at the supporting cast look at the supporting cast. His wide receiver one. One is Greg Word in undrafted quarterback from Houston his running back one as a five six six hundred running back Boston. Scott looks like the second coming of Darren. It's pros out. There outplayed out. Played the last year's number over number two overall pygmy outplayed saquon. Barkley Played Saquon Markley for the second time this season both eagles giants Games Boston. Scott outperformed saquon Barkley. I love these guys that podcasts. I go back and listen to the from the bleachers. After the Miami Game Listen My tone saying someone on twitter. Mike Meech friend of the PODCAST. Good friend tweeted. You know a month ago. I hated every player in the eagles team in now right now I love them more than my family. And I jokingly said. That's the perfect now I'm not trying to just crush Nelson obviously. I'm not the biggest fan of his has helped him on the pod in my writing repeatedly but just when you have this new energy you have these new guys out there Greg Ward Award. Big Bob Davis Deontay Burnett come out of nowhere with a huge forty one yard. Catch they just give a crap. It just feels different. The energy is unmistakably different. And when you have this group of receivers out there. Compared to Alshon Jeffery Matt Collins Jordan Mathews in Nelson Aguilar indisputable fact Carson Wentz quickies having more fun out there. He's playing more loose. I write a newsletter every day every weekday. It's on you can find. It's called the from broad street with love. Obviously very fitting good subscribe. I'm on Patriarch. Dot Com backslash. Shame on clancy but one thing. I read about today just two dollars per month newsletter every day every weekday delivered right to your email news box knocks. It just seems that when things are going so wrong in the supporting cast with all these injuries whether it's on the offensive line or the skill the players. It's Florist Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz. Tim Maximize their abilities. There is no just doug has to to be as creative as he's ever been as a play caller. Yes a scheme. The crap out of defense just to get people like Deontay burnout open to get big. Bob Davis Open to get Boston Scott over to the flat to get Joshua Perkins Open for twenty five yard. Twenty four yard touchdown catch that scheming. Baby that scheming. Those guys aren't creating separation on their own. There's no mm soccer safety valve out there. There's no Sean Jackson taking the top defense making everything else. There are no Alshon Jeffery. Brigham place there are no little Nelson Igor bubble screen Greensboro. Darren sproles bubble screens and right now looking to Seattle game just a couple of days that might not be any mile centers action. There might probably not going to be an Zakar. It's action either this week or maybe for the rest of the playoffs. I'm no doctor but a lacerated kidney that sounds like something you die from. Obviously he's not dead. He was in the hospital for a bit. But if you told me like hey shame just got a phone. Call your best friend. Big Mike He's not hospital. He has kidney I will just assume he done. That's the most insane L. lacerated kidney and he played the rest of the game. I don't know if that's malpractice by the medical staff. It wasn't diagnosed correctly or I should just be like kneel down in front his Atkinson Dude. You're one bed you know what dude reduced for plan like that impressive again. A guy called soft numerous times in his eagles career and while I stand by those comments particularly after that two thousand sixteen bengals game. The Dude has unbelievably rewritten his story in Philadelphia from a guy who seemed that he should be producing more than he was to now guy. WHO's a super bowl hero in God? Who played through a lacerated kidney but enough about that real quick yet the having the crappy players there with now they're crappy in the sense that they're the scrappy underdog? Obviously Greg Word has been playing while Boston's playing out of his mind. And you have guy like Dallas Goddard stepping up fulfilling promises a second round pick just two years back but Carson Wentz now has to play through him. There's no okay this play. It's going out Sean. I'm looking at Alshon. See when he's doing this play. Oh we need to get Zach is ten catches today. Here's a pass Zach underneath. Here's a pack on here. Yeah I'm faking left or another package. Underneath there is none of that. There are no mouths to feed beggars out there. Big Bob Davis isn't going on the sideline saying hey carson. We're my catches. Where am I touches today? Boston Scots out on the sideline Yana to staley touches. Jj are thankful whiteside. I don't even think of talks. I mean what are they. Basically took Burnett Tokyo's snaps whiteside. She's pick it just down. The sideline pouches run. Just running a straight line. If you're on the field or stay on the sideline doing Burnett forty one yard touchdown down get touched on just one reception unbelievable. He not complaining about his touch now. I'm not saying this in a way where I'm criticizing housing and Jeffrey and that they're you know ball hogs or selfish but they're guys who were veterans or guys who have made a lot of money in the groups who are applying for big and big contracts guys who won super bowls and guys who've Made Kiki pledges and Super Bowl winning games. They'RE GONNA want. There's I was them. I'd feel the same way but who doesn't feel that way. Greg Ward Greg. Words gone there and battling people don't even think he's widely probably deep down doesn't even consider himself off receiver. No always be quarterback to himself. This guy's gone out. There governed six balls yesterday. I am I am now is wide receiver non tied in but he seems like the new Zakar archetype and Hanes third and fourth in five hundred. Six we're looking for Greg word here. We're looking for Dow Scott across the mineral oil. Greg Gorden Greg. Why received one word? What a world? Now I do have to have at least one outstanding debt or bet however however you want to say it last podcast talking about the infamous burn the ships Monitor where Zakar to the pre game speech before the Dallas Game Ah a week and a half or so back and Said told the story about a sixteenth century Spanish conquistadors who told his minute and start them to burn their ships upon on their arrival in the Gulf of Mexico saying you either have one mission here either succeed or die there is no turning home there is no going back there is no. There's nothing in the back of her head saying that. Amanda for not doing well for losing we could just head there is no going on. There is no going home this to play out there is no going home. I loved it by sacrifice. A do or die game. Eagles one they do not. They're not died they succeeded and now they're NFC east champions so at the end of that podcast last week. I had said if the Eagles won the Super Bowl I am for sure. You're getting a burn the ships Tattoo on my arm on my leg on my forehead. I don't know yet but there will be one within a week of that game probably after the parade or maybe I'll in between and I'll show it off at the parade. Who knows maybe kiss my girlfriend in the Middle Street dern so I got that Tattoo from Nielsen super and the other bed I have outstanding? I made note on twitter twitter. If you're not follow me on twitter I listen. I don't know what you're doing for me at shameless under clancy tons of freezing eagles talk for sixers fan tear surely find other stuff like there but just during the game on the outpost on my motion just found me on their love it one thing. I've been beaten not drawn is and I. I wouldn't have done this yesterday. Because because it's such a special play either running for Dallas or save it for the playoffs there is no need to play. Run it against the giants meadowlands. You know I'm the guy who loves trick. Plays loves restrict plays it just you know. I'm not age. Twenty five hundred twenty six grow plan mad and I grew up playing backyard. Football group playing football in the street. My boys in South Philly up the back street and it just fun and Doug. Peterson has been aggressive. Using the guy who the playoffs. Two years ago ran that infamous flea flicker obviously ran. The phillies special ran in some quick misdirection and around to Nelson Adler. He's done that a bunch and even last week against Dallas. He tipped his hat a little bit. Dog and ahead. Greg Ward running as a wildcat. Now as I've said on this podcast and podcast before greg once. The starting quarterback for the University of Houston once led a thirteen in one campaign With a bowl. Victory once on the cover of sports illustrated sports illustrated Greg. What was on the cover as a quarterback now receiver so that guy can slim the rock rock he can throw booby milestone not not our mile sanders? V booby. Stop the styles so Greg Ward can throw the ball so there's really no reason they need a spark Seattle. Whether it's they win. They're doing it in Green Green Bay in San Fran in New Orleans. I don't care. I need to see a play for Boston. Scott comes in motion whence snaps it in shock on ended the Boston Scott. Right word comes is running back the other way. Boston's got pitches Greg Award and all hell breaks loose. People are charging In Greg Ward sales touchdown in I don't know Carson Wentz his hands John Burnett since Dallas got her tans. That plays Common Greg Ward. I will guarantee if the Eagles play at least two playoff games so they win against Seattle. Aw play another game. We will see at least one Greg Word Pass and if Greg Ward in one of these next two games on any game in the postseason if they make however far eagles make it greg word throws a touchdown pass and the Eagles win that game. I will go to the eagles pro shop down in South Philly at the Sports Complex the very next day and get a customized. Greg Ward Jersey in posted on twitter instagram. Whatever and I will wear to? The Eagles next game won't be in Philly likely. But I'll wear it when I'm watching the Awesome Greg word. My God any New Jersey. That'd be sick dude. It's a you know typical. If you're buying a Jersey one player that's going to be around forever A listener and reader newsletter. I was talking earlier. I don't have a current. He was players. Jersey Dawkins of Reggie white actually won the Reggie White and some Mitchell Nets giveaway at NFL anniversary. Silver Reggie White Jersey Stope Mitchell message super bowl sale back in twenty seventeen the week leading up to the Eagles Patriots Superbowl. They do a big sale every year. Mitchell Nastase at the flagship store at twelfth and Chestnut through big gotTa Jerome Brown Jersey for like seventy bucks super cheap unbelievable awards his award watching watching Super Bowl. They were so I got DOC INS. I got drone. Bram Got Reggie and back in twenty thirteen during a twenty-seven to nick foles mania. I bought a Nick Foles hers and Nobody Twenty Fourteen. I thought that it was obsolete but I was able to wear it again. you know last season postseason ward not the end of last season. And then so that's it. And then a reader bought me just add the kind of his heart guy. I think his name on twitter is Benjy. Two one five is like Duda I love your newsletter podcast or tweets. Whatever it's weird they don't have kernels player Jersey and he said how I'll get you? I was agreed serious Clearly bought in sent me got my shipping address bought from like fanatics or the NFL's website. Now Sean Jeffrey Jersey Alshon at Black Jerseys by ward who blackout game earlier here may or may not have blacked out of the game myself so I had that Alshon Jersey on my great alshon. They guaranteed his contract for twenty twenty. He'll be able to at least two years. He's a superhero. Even if he doesn't play the team the future will have great you know really where replay value. However you want to say now Shawn turn out for the air? The money's guaranteed for next year. But he's still might get cut or traded by this time next year by the beginning of the twenty twenty season Istomin have a current. He goes players. But maybe if Greg Word if greg word touchdown pass and wins the game ends a playoff hero. He will be back next year. I'm sure I'm certain he'll be on the eagles roster next year if that happens opening day week one week two whenever for the Eagles Open up their home game the stadium their first home opener. I will be there wearing Greg Word Jersey. Hi this is Cara. Swisher host areco decode. It's been an incredible two thousand nineteen for our show and we recently been honored with awards by Ad Week. They named Rico decode the best technology podcast of the year. And the podcast of two thousand nineteen over all. So if you haven't checked this out yet there's never been a better time to start. Enrico decode I interview people. Do you need to know in tech and beyond about power change and big ideas. Some of my guests in two thousand nine hundred have included. Edward snowden Nancy Pelosi Ronan Farrow Meghan. You know and Kathy Griffin. You can find some of our favorite episodes at vox dot com slash decode. That's Rico decode an award winning podcast that you should check out today. Thanks and happy holidays. Hey I'm Jason Delray. I recently wrapped up land of the giants the rise of Amazon. In this podcast we examine. How Jeff bezos turned a small online bookseller into one of the most powerful companies in the world? We start by exploring how the Amazon prime became a service with over one hundred million members and the main source of the company's power. I mean I think that's kind of Amazon's banking on right that you're just so often that you're going to go to any other sites. 'cause I mean I don't and we end this season by pondering. The question is Amazon. Too Big you know and we just don't WANNA be. The United States states have Amazon. We just really don't land of the giants has been recommended by the New York. Times axios wired and more. It's a candidate. Look at the state of Amazon today. How we got here and what the future might look like? The entire first season is out. Now find out more and binging on apple podcasts or your favorite favorite podcast APP. It's playoff time. I could not be more excited. It has been nearly two years since I tended to Philadelphia Eagles playoff game last one. Obviously the last playoff game the eagles played in Filadelfia was the iconic thirty seven beatdown of the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC championship game back on January twenty. First I have the date burned into my brain January twenty first two thousand eighteen sitting up there in section redacted. I never say what section. I'm though if you ever just deanne manual in the media offer a beer or something I would obviously tell you. They beat the crap out of them and that was just going into that game You know obviously when Scott injured and and you're thinking and they go on this magical run. They beat Atlanta. Just barely scrape by and going in that tell obviously get relating to tailgate a bunch of BGN readers readers and listeners. Have come to tailgates this year. I met them at our. BGN Watch party YOU'RE A couple of weeks back to it was just one of those things where I'm thinking. This could be it. That's Hell Gate on. I'm standing there it's like this is the NFC championship game. The Eagles have played in one in thirteen years. It could be another thirteen. They haven't won one thirteen years. I hadn't played in one in what nine years could be another nine years. It could be another twenty years before they get back so who knows what's going to happen. I I just kept calling it like the end of the world tailgate. Just it's all have fun. Let's go nuts. Let's Party and the Eagles are only the fourth seed so unless Minnesota reaches has the NFC championship game. I don't want to get to my head myself. I'M GONNA spend like thirty seconds on this so if the eagles win on Sunday and Minnesota beat New Orleans again. I don't Wanna get ahead of myself. The people on twitter complained. I'm talking about future playoff scenarios but since I mentioned thirty seven I have to do this real quick. If Minnesota beat New Orleans Eagles Eagles beat Seattle battle. Eagles would go to Green Bay. Minnesota San Fran. The Eagles beat Green Bay in Green Bay in Minnesota beat Stanford in San Fran Minister would come here for the NFC championship game for the second time in three. Here's I'm just throwing it out. There there is a possibility that we get another thirty to seven eagles. Vikings NFC championship game. That again talking about you know the emotion of the intensity of attending a playoff game. That's nuts. I've been to first game ever attended which twenty-third seen Chips first year. Nick foles first playoff game. They lost to the saints on a heartbreaker then didn't attend a game. Till no Falcons Eagles back in in two thousand seventeen January twenty eighteen a close knit game on a last second. Jalen Mills Giulio Jones. The whole nine yards and then obviously the thirtieth the seven beat down. We were back already. I thought maybe it couldn't have been ten years before I saw playoff game at home again. But we're back for Carson Winston. I sometimes I'm like if you're down to the game. Probably get a little too drunk to crazy and sometimes I just like watching the game home. Definitely it's definitely better. Viewing experience is to watch a road game just from the comforter. Cows go into a game and being screaming crazy nut. You don't get replays yourself. Service socks all those things but aren't able to watch Carson wentz. The golden boy as Dennis Reynolds might say the Golden God himself his first ever playoff game that Carson Wentz if if nothing else comes from this season Carson Wentz is going to have playoff experience and I take that as a win this season this season. That was once a season from hell is now a victory to I would agree in my mind because Carson Wentz is going to end up with playoff experience if I'm not going to have to hear people off season giants fans cowboys fans losers from around. NFL twitter percent of course played a playoff game before they should've kept nick. Foles who got bench like three times this year and talk about injury prone and Jacksonville Axon Ville. We're GONNA be able to see that again if if you're going to be around the game hit me up on twitter. Send me an email. Shame is j clancy at gmail.com of had a ton of BGN readers and listeners. Come come through and tailgate this year. WanNa come out and hang out please please do. We'll have a black ask Had A cowboys pin Yada there last week for the Eagles cowboys game. I won't have seahawks Kenyatta but you know might have some Phil stakes catered out there. My favorite cheese sticks twenty-third impassioned in South Philly Tons of booze flow. We're GONNA bring some lemon cream cello safely staple maybe get some blackberry brandy. A Classic Southfield New Year's Day during Cadad- is only allowed to be drank in cold weather so to me the blessed and it just feels so good to be back to be walking into my like my favorite thing in the world. It's one of those things that kind of I don't WanNa see breaks me from reality. Makes me step back. Ignore some of the things that are going in in my life the pressing issues of work or money or all these trials and tribulations that are part of the human experience on that walk from my tailgate from the On judge row to the stadium that walk up the ramp to the top section of the link there is. There's no better moment in my life than that. It's just I feel free three of the world free of the world's responsibilities free of stressors. Because I'm doing is I'm waiting in line for security. I have like six years in my hand. Not Six like two or three beers my hands on trying to drag him real quick to go to the line passing my friends my dad my dad's friends whatever. Then we're doing e jelly chance in your wallet on that Ramp. Nothing nothing else matters it. Just it reminds me of goodwill hunting goodwill on as my favourite film of all time and Ben Affleck's character chucky is is talking to will Matt Damon's character after and he seemed like the best part. My Day is no walking up to your house and during hoping that you won't be there one day one day you realize you're you're better than this. You have better things to do in life. You're more important than this and that he won't be there To that I say the best part of my day or my year my life is that walk from the tailgate. Lot To my seats at the link because it just feels the game hasn't started yet deals Orne on the precipice of some huge collapsed. Russell Wilson is in scrambling around the nut yet for that fifteen twenty twenty five minutes however long it takes anything is possible. A thirty seven victories. Possible a huge one is possible in iconic moment is possible Patrick Robinson Reception Jalen Hill was pass brick Carson wentz throwing across his body to Deontay Burnett for an eighty five yard. Touchdown is in the cards. A Greg word reverse touchdown pass asked to Carson Wentz for forty seven yards is in the mix. It's possible anything's possible. Before a playoff game when you're walking on to your seats I'm sure. Even people don't intend to games a few not a season ticket holder like myself. If you're someone who just you know tickets are obviously costly. Not able to do that. If you're selling your just enjoys watching at home if you're someone who's not from the Philadelphia area. I'm sure you can store recreate that emotion where your new kitchen. You're cooking up your favorite dish. Maybe some dip Got Some Stromboli slowly wings on the way if you're making a cocktail maybe cracking up a cold beer drinking Get a nice non alcoholic or Qua- Seltzer which I love and you're just thinking man like this is the day. This is what this is what we watched all the terrible losses for or this is what we pulled our hair out our entire lives for to be able to watch them play a playoff game ends and when the whole damn thing that can major league you know there's nothing left to do but when the whole damn thing. There's not one thing what to do before that is greg word. Has To throw a touchdown pass then eagle to win but other than that the only thing left to do is win the whole damn thing. I'm shameless clancy from the bleachers. First playoff addition. It will oh not be the last playoff addition because the eagles will win on Sunday. And yes I spent my entire football existence over the last half dozen years talking about how. Russell Wilson is unstoppable. He is the Eagles Kryptonite. He will do anything. He will assert his will. His dominance at every turn against the Philadelphia Eagles even at home even in Philadelphia. But he has eighty-seven-year-old marshawn Lynch in the backfield. He is without his top left tackle out with his guard. I think Tyler Lockett got hurt last night. The Eagles that he played back on November twenty four th are different than eagles he's GonNa play on. What January fifth six seven weeks later? This is a different team. Different team different. Even though we're talk talk about everything to the offense the defense is different. Legal Defense at home masterful Jim Schwartz at home masterful so Ross. It's going to be loud. Get Your silent countdown down. It's going to be loud. I'M GONNA lose my voice next week's podcast win or lose. I'm not going to have a voice. There's only one thing do ladies and Gentlemen James Clancy from the bleachers. 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The Best of The Kist & Solak Show Recaps: 2019 Week 17-WC
"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season, one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is one hundred and sixty two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games, so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness, you could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with just inclu and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin endless, rozier. On. Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. Michael Kissed. Again Benjamin so. It's the kissed in Seoul action presented by espy nation and bleeding great nation. You are flying high on the kissed and so lack show brought to you by the book sp, nation and bleeding green nation I'm your host Michael Kissed. Follow me on twitter at Michael, kissed and I felt in today we are wrapping up the best of the kissed, and so lack recap shows from the two thousand Nineteen Philadelphia Eagles season. If you're late to the party, how this works is each week. The CAYENNE S is on reaction duty for games and give our thoughts and analysis after each one and what I've done is I've taken the best parts of those shows and clip them up to what amounts to five different compilations this of course. Course is the fifth installment as we highlight the final games which are week seventeen against the giants were the Eagles officially clinched the division and punch their ticket to the playoffs, and of course, the wild card round where they exited, said playoffs against the Seattle Seahawks of times throughout the season, Brandon League outon had to fill in for my usual co host Benjamin so lack best the case here as well for week seventeen, we kicked this off as technically ob-gyn radio, and then so lack returns for the wild card round, but enough qualifying these you've listened to these you understand the score. Let's get to the show week. Seventeen Philadelphia thirty four New York. York giants. Seventeen Eagles have won the NFC east. They are the NFC east champions after beating the New York giants, thirty four to seventeen in a game were pretty much, everybody died. Everyone was injured. Just an absurd game clothes for a while. Dallas wins. It does not matter. The Eagles are crowned the NFC champ. They're going to the playoffs. Brother Bijon Radio, episode ninety nine. How you doing bill G., what's going on bleeding green nation? How do you like those eagles baby? You're watching the earlier games and you see. The dolphins upset the Patriots, and then you see the packers and the three eleven at one David Blau lead Wyans take the packers to. to deliberate because Aaron Rodgers has a horrendous start among other factors and get like that any given Sunday type of live from all the one o'clock games as you head into this win. This one had by Durr's jumping me and Ben were pretty nervous about this all week. We definitely didn't see this as a Gimme game. Then we find out. Zach is not only out for the game, but perhaps the season with a broken ribs. Emily lacerated kidney, but again all the road divisional opponent opponent has been playing better over the last two weeks against the eagles team. That's all types of banged up and then lacking weapons and missing key players and. You could feel good about this one coming into it and the game starts, and the first thing that happens is Boston Scott must the kickoff and the eagles are start at their own seven yard line like here. We go like this is how it starts in throughout the game miles, sanders, who's playing really well in the first drive had like forty five combined yards really early in the game the first quarter he. He goes out with an ankle. Brandon Brooks gets hurt on extra point or whatever it was with with the shoulder jacquards Lane Johnson to Sean Jackson's out for the season. jalen Mills Ronald Darby. Nelson, I'd like all these different guys like there's nobody there. You had the stat from from Ruben Frank saying that the eagles had over two hundred yards of offense from guys that were on the practice squad throughout the season. That's over half of the total yardage. They had in his game at four hundred total yards. That's wild and Carson. wentz Carson Wentz twenty-three for forty to eighty nine one touchdown, throwing the guys like Boston's Scott throwing the guys like Deontay Taper Net and Robert Davis and Josh. Perkins like you can't say enough about the resilience of this team when the chips are down, this is two years in a row that three years, in Arabian the trillions of Super Bowl the backup quarterback. This is three years in a row. Doug has pulled his team from the abyss from desperation and gotten them to the play. It's it's absurd. Well on one hand, it's almost like hey. Guys would be nice if you didn't always have to wait until your back's would literally against the law, and there's no margin for error to this like it'd be nice to. Dominate. That's the goal I feel like, but yeah, I mean God. You can't say enough like things about like an effort can be so overrated in sports. We talk about that a lot probably here on the radio edit. In momentum, but like this is dislike, gutty man, this is this is hard to lose those guys, and then like the guys who were just dropping out of the game, who didn't necessarily have to get like carted off Brooke stay, but like Brandon. Graham has to come out at one point like Maddux has to come out Yup. Craig, James How's he? He's not even playing how? I was getting her like everyone's dropping like flies. Jordan Howard wasn't even healthy for this game like he was active, but we like there was one running back at the end of the game because it was very clear that they weren't GonNa play Howard which is Super Weird, addressed him, but anyway please continue our that I think like one snap to like. Maybe he added the. The one on the the big Bob Davis reception called back by a penalty, but yes, so he was barely in the game as other writing. Boston Scott who again was not on the team and we won Carson Wentz. You cannot say enough about this man. You guys were mocking and I in a in a in a good way. You're right to not mocking. Mocking you from people? But you were talking about the whole elevate. Come a couple of weeks ago. He has frigging done that with this team. Now Doug Peterson. This helped is not literally just carson, but like at the crux of it. You're paying Carson Wentz one hundred twenty million dollars to be your franchise quarterback. He'd has been just that that is Mike. That is part. Part of what makes this run here so exciting? It's not just about. Is that just about the season? They've entered long-term questions that were being raised after that dolphins lost like. Is Doug the right coach? Ultimately, it wasn't like they're gonNA. Get rid after this year, but do they to adjust the staff and then you know. Where do we go from there? It was will. Is Doug just a product of Frank Reich for the second year in a row. It was Carson Wentz. Better than Nick foles like that's done finito and the words of Pat Shurmur probably GonNa be fired. It's like that's over. Can you imagine for Carson Wentz? Who by the way over four thousand yards? The First Eagles quarterback to do that and the first one to do it without having five hundred yard wide receiver right ever. which is which is crazy and that's exactly goes to my point. Can you imagine the week one starting lineup route the point where none of them disarmed Jackson alshon Jeffery Nelson, Galore, miles. Sanders was the starter for that game. You could even count Jordan Howard based on his health for for this game, and then Zacharias, has none of them available to him by at some point in this week seventeen game if Nelson doesn't re- doesn't regress if Alshon isn't banged up for the entire season. If to. Sean doesn't go out for the one of those things, just one of them happens. What does this season look like for Carson Wentz? Did you get more stable play? Do you get even? Even better numbers that you had your obviously going to have more wins because of the game winning drops early on in the season like that doesn't get talked about enough, but then we don't have to talk about it because he takes this ragtag group and takes them to the playoffs on his back game that we were worried about because the giants had put up what combat a combined seventy seven points over the previous two games, and the Eagles are able to get some key turnover system key spots brother that play by by Malcolm Jenkins to strip it out with Fletcher Cox. Recovering it like that was the moment on the low snap cocks recovers at the New York giants. Giants to bosses got punches then Sidney Jones would not be denied. He has made three big plays for this team, too big breakup went on third down against the giants and a fourth, and against the cowboys, and it gets an interception in this game. Just just a great performance I. mean the the giants on I. Four drives only have thirteen plays for twenty yards, and I know they. They busted in just typical eagles fashion like bill you. What was going through your mind? When the eagles go up seventeen to ten on the back of a nine play sixty two yard three minute drive, you got the over the shoulder boulder holder to Dallas Goddard on third and eight A. A crazy catch, the Boston got seven yard touchdown, and immediately the giants answer with a sixty eight yard touchdown scamper to make it seventeen seventeen. What was your confidence level at that point It was shaken Mike Michael just because I? Know? You just saw it in the drive before like how it takes. Dallas scattered catch how it takes like Deontay Brunette making a play on, even I have. My drive screwed up I. Don't know next Laos so like it. It takes like plays like that just to you know it takes a lot of effort, basically what I'm trying to the score and then like the giants. It's not you know saquon down the field. It's easy If not what the are able to do with what they have right and to their credit, Eagles are able to go on these drives seemingly unsustainably in theory. But they are sustaining each week. I don't know how, but they are doing it. It's not even that I lost faith in the team as a whole as much as just you know the the style they have to play. It's like well. Thou they're okay. They're going to have to do another drive and if it doesn't work, or you know if they get set back, forbid by a holding penalty or Something right now it's hard for them to overcome their not overcoming like third and sixteen. Because there's no one's getting open, they. They have the horses really to do that. The pressure was getting there. I feel like for for a good chunk of the game. They had four sacks. Dark Barnett hit two beautiful spend. WHO's in this game had to Kisangani your favorite player. My I mean I gotta give him credit and Brandon Graham had himself a day man a real day. Now you know magnitude, spend up in this game and obviously Darby's out of the lineup, and then deal militant play in the scheme so strapped basically only got some more playing time because injuries, and he was awesome. It multiple stops on third downs. You're the fourth down stop. saquon like he was awesome in this game and it's amazing because it's. It's like Deja Vu from last year like the Eagles claimed him off waivers at nowhere and strap is like making all these places. Like who is this guy? He's doing it again and then, and then you have the offense version this year with Boston Scott again deserves a lifetime contract like it's just amazing, so for all the the crap. I give the personnel staff. People deserve credit for that. Yeah, I think so much of like. The next thing can be Kinda overrated. Because at some point, you can't literally anyone in there. Yeah, you need some baseline like it's not even like the next man. It's like the next next next next man, this point and like for Joshua Perkins to become catching touchdown like that. It's like what are we doing doesn't seen. How is this going to the playoffs? While Boston's got doesn't have the greatest yards per carry. He also has like three touchdowns the guy. Guy Had one hundred thirty eight combined yards for four receptions, eighty four yards on top of fifty rushing yards on nineteen carries. Josh Perkins has fifty yards and a touchdown taper net has forty eight yards. Greg Ward has six catches for forty three yards was a good target. For Wentz who went starts to the IT looks like is looking like he has a lot. Lot more trusted him. Now as the season has gone along, Robert Davis had a great catch that was wiped out by the hold, I tied Kinda struggle in this game, but then you get you get went on the hoof later and look I. I'm a big Fan of letting the Bronco Buck LTV and you get him on the move and you let Wentz. Wentz, have some time out there in space and fine guys downfield, and he was able to do this and give this give these guys tansy through the touchdown to Perkins, which made it tend to three then when it was seventeen to seven or seventeen to seventeen whence fines Robert Davis down the field white by that whole, but then later on, he finds Deontay. These are real players making real plays for the eagles in week seventeen that would set up a clutch fifty yard field goal from Jake to make it twenty seventeen with thirteen, fifty, eight left in the fourth. The Eagles would not relinquish the lead. I think they're playing with house money now like I don't think you can beat disappointed at this team goes like one done. We don't know the status of Brandon, Brooks and miles sanders obviously, but they're going to be depleted. You're not getting to Sean. Jackson back next week. He can't get him back until the divisional round. Anyway is this. Is this legit house money for you? And what do you think of the chances for the Eagles? Ford 'cause I mean I. Don't think it really matters that their plan. You know whoever they're playing in the playoffs. But what do you think about the eagles in the playoffs moving forward I? Think I'm finding myself. where I of was last year we to certain point with the scene where it's like. How can you doubt them? And how? How? How could you leave out every time you do and I certainly did when they lost the dolphins I said. Said they thought they did at the time, and I think they deserved a Lotta Gulf. They got back then obviously. I mean just they've shocked US really at every turn, but at the same time. It's not like just a fluke like that's the point of this. Like the the way this team has continued to diversity is more than fluky like there's something to that. It's you talk about culture. That's the culture right. There is being able to overcome adversity. Adversity resiliency so It's incredible. I would not count this team out again. They've won four games in a row going into the playoffs when you look at it on paper. Yeah, obviously, you're like okay. How the heck are they going to overcome? Not Having tensely for the rest of the season, and whatever happens with Brandon, Brooks and even mile sanders like I, get it from that sense of like. You don't feel amazing about it conceptually every week. Week I ask for three words to describe the game from the listeners from Danny. Thompson whence is clutch I. Mean that's something that we were talking about. For the past couple of years can wet once get it done in the big moments, the game winning drives when the divisions on the line in the big push games because he had struggled early around in the season when a lot was at stake. You look into England you legally that the. The Seattle game the earlier Dallas game, but then he puts together some wins against visual opponents. They beat up on on Dallas and are able to get to this point. It's nice to know at the very least that the quarterback I mean that the we can finally settle. This is not the problem on the eagles. All of the doubters have gone away in the last few weeks. As Carson has, you know risen that that tied all those boat, he. He was already won a super bowl with nick. foles like through the looking glass. Things have already been weird this the NFL. Anything can happen and add the poll up on bleeding renascent dot com about that at the time in article after the dolphins game and everyone's emotional. Here's on that owning everyone to this I get it every really frustrated, but I put up a poll. Do you want to make the playoffs in thirty four percent of the voters? Voters here with three thousand, six, hundred ten voting, said yes, so only thirty four percents. Yes, sixty six percent said no people didn't even want to make the playoffs I. Know and I I understood it at the point because he thought okay. Maybe they can make it, but what's the point like? They're not GonNa do anything that is absolutely not the way to be feeling now, and even if they were one and done when you talk about house money. Money this concept I mean it's GonNa. Be disappointing anytime. They lose in the playoffs, but the fact that they've made it this far. And they prevented the cowboys from being the first team since the eagles lasted two thousand four to repeat is NFC champions I think that says something again going towards the future. It's just such a sign of hope. It's like you answered. The big questions about dug in about Carson still some questions about how he but. Obviously deserves some credit for this team in having the depth to get to the playoffs, I think a big thing for me is that this is now Carson Wentz his team this this is no longer the the question of living goals is shadow or anything like that. This has by way of devastating injuries in the and the amount of them and to the. The specific skill players. This is Carson's team. Now not every year is running back one running back to like a rt one RG, one wide receiver, one two three so on and so forth. That's not going to. You're going to have those injuries every single year you put it a a solid consistent supporting cast around Carson. Wentz and I think you're GONNA see. See Big. Time results I. Mean Carson Wentz could've played at the same level. He's played at pretty much all year, and if he had better playmakers around him, not dropping the deep balls and the game, winning touchdowns and everything like that he didn't have, he wouldn't have to change anything at a great season, though the whole narrative around him with a change because. because. That's worth two or three wins. You know it's not nine and seven is fine, but you know you're talking about eleven and five now twelve and four. I think that's what this team is consistently capable of when you have, a quarterback can allow you to be in any game. I think it's huge for Carson's confidence moving forward as well to know that. Have to press I, it's not all on me I. Can I can be a facilitator. I can put the other guys because they're gonNA come pick me up when I need them. Baseball truly it is awful I'm phillies writer Justin Clue? Join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr. Trevor Drunk as we discuss all the ways. The phillies of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows, continued success, and the dirty inning subscribed to the good fight, and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive. Whatever baseball can throw at us. No one would ever thought an entrenched Jim Unity like Hollywood can let someone come in and completely disrupt the content. 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One, sixty eight brought to you by Espy Dacian, lead nation. I'm your host Michael. Kissed follow me on twitter Michael. Kissed NFL as always joined by the best doggone co host in the game for our last reaction, show of the two thousand, Eighteen, two, thousand twenty NFL season is Benjamin Zolak ban. It wasn't exactly the playoff experience that we were looking for with Carson Wentz but I it was an exhausting. Nonetheless how you doing brother? Everything is sad. It's delicious, but it's a sad delicious I. We ran a marathon. That game was exhausting. Just watching the eagles try to desperately seek out like every single artem yard of offense they could. Out of the Josh McCowan led. Six sack. Philadelphia Eagle offense, right watching watching the run game to slam their heads into heavy boxes on third downs when the eagles are just trying to destroy the other couple of big plays watching the defense, just let the living daylights out of Brussels pregnant. They could get pressure on him I. Mean it was all hard long and difficult watch, and it was awfully soured by the absence of Carson Wentz who just? You don't even know what to say. At this point, it's terrible. It's terrible that a play would play that well. In two thousand seventeen go down with injury watches team to the playoffs win. The play-offs win the Super Bowl watch him come back in two thousand eighteen struggle with health eventually go down at the end of the season, and then watch the team comeback mega the playoffs when a playoff game, and then he finally gets his team to the end of the regular season and. And he gets six snaps before it's taken away by just like an awful terrible avoidable play I cannot imagine what that's like mentally for Carson. He's got to spend now a third consecutive off-season, not necessarily in Rehab, but sitting, working out preparing for a season once again like with this massive monkey on his back in terms of proving screw screw injured Bruni is nothing to prove in terms of whether or not. He's injured pro. He's he's physical. None of that is real none of that matters. No interest to me it has no bearing on the David climbing play whatsoever, but having to prove that he can not only take a team to the playoffs for be consistently good quarterback for twenty games in the season. Because even though we have no evidence to the contrary, we have no evidence to the point. These guys are able to put it together yet. And that is a dark and heavy cloud, and I've asked before. This Carson Wentz. Start to believe like that. He's a bit snake bitten, and you add this into this to where. Where he has to think about it for the entire season, and and it's it's devastating. This Pacific play at your already alluded to this. It doesn't fit into the injury prone narrative and you can say he's injury prone. If you want even after a full regular season if you're basing on his past whatever I don't care, they're just words. They don't matter I just don't think this has anything remotely to do with that and I think it's Square peg in a round hole? told you so nonsense from a select group of knuckle dragging. Dragging. SEWARD's sucking that are pushing the narrative that getting hit by a car makes you a magnet. The story is an eagles team that yet again found the next band up and found a way to stay in the game to a point where it was a four point game with an eight forty six let third quarter to where it's a one score game. Seventeen to nine final, there were eight points. They had to critical fourth-down down that they were not able to convert I agree with Doug ongoing for them which we can talk. Talk about but that this whole thing staying in in this game that the way that they did in the way that they fought and the way that they ended the season over the last month plus right the question I. Ask myself is like if I. If you're calling the game, you would wanna be able to hypothesize to the listeners viewers. What should they expect on the eagles? Now that you lose your starting quarterback? What's the plan? My plan was great poured. which is like mostly for fine I think honestly I felt like what? What you saw from account every a lot of outbreaking stuff with him, right? Twelve to fifteen yards. Outside Macau alive. Pasta, you said you say he's throwing with the force of a thousand suns. A pill the little bit. seahawks did very much so what they were trying to do in the first game, which they're just GonNa take away your in breaking stuff. They have those two really good linebackers that talked about sinking on underneath all interbreeding routes, so throw outside against leverage, so they did a good job with that with an account. They definitely I. Think Got Conservative with my count, and how to get out of that I think they did a better job in the fourth quarter, even coming out in the third with. With a couple of passes, I part mccown in the second. They were like all right. We're running. The ball and calling screens were were scared a lot of their runs in the first quarter first half were setting up play action rollouts. They were running jets a jet motion. Constantly they're running just traditional wide zone, so you were looking for Split Zone rollouts, and you're looking for for whatever it's called for three level flawed off of a week blue. That's Carson was going to be successful with account for whatever reason because. Because the mccown's not a bad athlete. We saw him keep zone. Read for eleven yards. How but they didn't want him doing that and that was a problem. Because mccown's pocket presence has been booty. When he was young, it was booty. You know what I mean like. This is like an old guy thing. The other thing about mechanics was a big deal was that he drastically limited the eagles in the red zone. He limited the eagles in the red zone because he's not a quick processor. He's a slow processor needs. Needs to do work pre snap, so the eagles couldn't throw guys wrong in the rats on the hand against the look, they wanted to get into into the short areas before the snap, and that's really really difficult to do. You need a basic guess. Right like you need to just get the defense in a bad luck by happenstance. It's not can easily create for yourself. They ran the ball well there in the middle well. That's explosive plays Matt Prior I think is a good long-term debt piece for this line and. Placing the Interior Santa's had a good game. Run the ball. Scott the ball that went according to plan only so much running off. It's can do for you when it's Josh. mccown throw a Sheldon Gibson. You KINDA. Hog tied as far as it goes the big big pass interference drawn by Shelton. Gibson Aka the best deep threat on the Eagles, apparently in this game, but just mccown eighteen to twenty, four, one, seventy, four, I mean he had respectable game. They've got mile. Sater's out in the Flat Zach, Ertz does his job on the road route and whatnot in the defenders. Getting over thought mccown was a little bit late on the throw. The throw is on the back hip, not. Not Out in front a little bit low mile. Sanders also should have caught it as well plenty of blame to pass around, but I don't think the blame lands on the coaching staff on this one I thought it was a good decision in a must win game. You get exactly what you wanted. Execution was lacking a little bit from you know, got your backup quarterback in there, and and and your rookie. Running backdrops at this is, there's an point ball ballgame. This is like four or five or two field goals does up. This is an eight point ballgame use core field goal. You still need a touchdown to do anything else. You don't need the two bucket version. You'll take the lead. We still have the game to the end zone, and the thing is with this team it with McDonald's restaurant limitations. You don't expect to get into the end zone easily, so you have to take every shot you can when you're close. I thought four. The four was the right. Call is four seven was the right call and I thought play design wise when they came out a trade of the right nub tied in the back to that side. I'm everybody. Their mom and new did front backswing. They came out in the same formation, and the next one around the flair was it was the flat route, but they've been doing that that running back to the to the open field, swinging them into space JV and clowns Abi, being the drop player because of how Seattle's rushing great news able to put that ball over Clowney, which is the ideal placement for that throw touchdown. mccown goes behind and Sanders feels like he has to catch it wall, accelerating to make sure cloudy misses him. Him probably trying to make sure he thinks that I can't blame them for. It's a tough catch. The throw location is a debate. And then you know it has being dropped two inches of execution miles of results. You know what I mean we we know. The Eagles are prone to high leverage drops this year. Metcalf ends up with one hundred and sixty receiving yards the most by a rookie in a playoff game in these super bowl era obviously has the fifty three are touchdown. Touchdown which is around midfield which we told you about on the preview shows pre snap motion looked like a bust, and it looked like another case of the Eagles having issues adjusting their coverage to that motion. That was just I. Don't know what exactly the covers. They were tried to run, but it looked weird. It's been an issue for them all season, and of course dicate ends up eating him up for the for the majority of the game, and has the cover zero at. At the end of the game, throw it up and based on the rules that the eagles had in coverage, either I end I out, or whatever the rules were marcus at straws decay metcalf in coverage. which let me tell you. We know exactly how that's going to end up, so they're able to close the game out that way. Here's the thing about running a cover zero blitz on third and ten with one time out left with a game and the season on the line. it just doesn't seem like a great idea. They gave up so so many situations second in fifteen, hundred and fifteen all these different situations, and and somehow they managed to blue them in the most frustrating ways ban. It was throw the kitchen sink Welson at Cosworth did a good job. Identifying Jenkins would encourage overhaul. BE QB spy over Ross and would occasionally free blitz when he knew he had an alley fresh the issue, the eagles very clearly. We're going to do everything they could to move Russell Wilson. Office spawned. Keep them off tempo now, and it's something that worked for them in week twelve. It's right. We talked about the. The preview show we saw it and it was affected certain spots. You've been blitzing more consistently all season. The Arab yet for Yup, nineteenth and blitz frequency, which is way higher than Schwartz has been in the past few right so they now you're you're. This is what you need to generate this pressure. Okay, we'll then your common with he, your common with your common say sex with five manque average on the back end. You're getting thirteen completions nine hundred yards from elite. Turn on dig route get. He's going to snap off your Slack Warner. Maximum blocker are good players, but they lose. Got medcalf fifty three yard touchdown on a second long plaques and shot right where Seattle state their shots. You rotate in a safety down and cover zero. You know so all of this to say they're doing it. They're getting the sack and the hits necessary to stop drives. They're clearly tightening up when they get to the the the red zone as well. They a blocked field goal. Right! You get to third and ten and you finally arrived at the play in which a sack doesn't really actually make anything better right at an incompletion. It does the same thing right you still. Of Field Position Timeout. Jobs will still be pumping from deep in their territory. You'll be getting the ball back with basically the same amount of time you have finally arrived at the play in which it is just as good to get an incompletion as this to get a sack in terms of game scripting, you sell out anyway and you end up with Marcus. APPs on vk, metcalf, and now I do bring the house you so clearly a bringing the house and absolutely does not even know and Crevasse gotta get the over here where two or three right now need you in man coverage police can hear. You might string. Safety picked up for the Minnesota Vikings after innocent covered decay metcalf. We Need Hugh. By the way you're reading three and you're also checking vertical, and you're taking to vertical like all that information being disseminated to him as over. God to the brighter run advance we find. Just is sitting as we know with. Schwartz ended game situations situationally. He just makes the weirdest decision and the ends of avs. Xing. Danny Kennel can't Kennel Canal. Boy Right then Carson wines just as a soft brain. This is take. It was not O'Brien's of the same. Thank you. Every brain is a snowflake. That's what we got out of. Did I mean this season, no! But like at the end of the day horrify are fought last December hard five-game in January. It's good. Seok seem see I've seen. That was a pass interference. Call away from being the third seed in the NFC from being the division champion NFC west. Can you imagine thinking we'd be here after the Miami? Dolphins exactly what if I told you you know who is likely to get fired micro gym shorts on three after three, one, two three name, one, two three micro. Wow, okay, okay, so were there were there were there were there. Not, getting fired. This defense is really good at home, and a half of your games are at home, and so this defense is really good half of the time, and so we'll survive. It would be nice if we got some new players for the defensive backs avenue, maybe just as a hypothetical just as something I don't know just as a potential just maybe for sure if you didn't have a good time during Houston and And Buffalo you don't have a damn pulse because that was some of the most electrifying, both good and bad quarterbacking I've ever seen on planet earth that when we say right now seahawks, green. Bay Is GonNa, be a flawn football game and our self, some smell as it can revamp, met a lot in the playoffs over the last decade or so and they've been fun game. That's going to be a hoot and Holler. I HOPE MINNESOTA GETS PANTS BY San. Francisco I expect them to would not enjoy Vikings in the NFC championship game again so on that nobody even knows what anything is because. Jacob Hollister like tapped Malcolm gangs on the head and got called for opie. I really didn't have the same impact on the play or the game. Obviously agree. Nobody knows what's real everything is stupid. Josh mccown threw a ball didn't even land in the screen and Trey Flowers got called for office about. France on Grey Ward. I have no idea what the penalty is every penalty that gets addressed during the offseason. The referees gets more confusing in the subsequent season I. It was a heck of a ride I left it all out. There I know that much I had a really great time playing for the Eagles undesired count. Yes, it's in my face. It's in my eyes and my nose. Okay, it's GONNA cry. We're GONNA be here. We hope that you. You stick with us as well. You've enjoyed the show of the season. Go ahead reviewing. Subscribe off whatever into your podcasts. If you have things, you'd like to hear in the off season. We always love to open up this call and I'm sure we'll do it more formally at the next upcoming episodes, but if you have stuff, you want to hear in the off season. Yes, you want to see in the offseason. We're always available. 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The Past Lives Podcast Ep82 Robert Davis P.H.D
"This is the Pasta Awesome podcast episode. Eighty two I'm your host. Simon found my mission here past lives. PODCAST is to investigate evidence that demonstrates survival of the human soul. Will you look at past life memories near death experiences spirit communication and other incredible phenomena. I want to say hello to everyone. Signed end up patriots and everyone that has made donations to the podcast. I really do appreciate your generosity. The past life podcast patron campaign has been updated aid from now on. If someone signs up the two dollars here they will get a bonus episode every month members of the five dollars here. Get a bonus episode every week the the occasional extended versions of the free one hour episodes and of course the back catalogue. You can become a patron at Patriot. Dot Com forward slash pass lives focused or click on the button of my homepage as past lives hypnosis dot code UK. There's a pass podcast facebook group and if you'd like to join when you be very welcome. I am an instagram and twitter. And if you WANNA find me. The twitter amy's at Simon G. bound this week. My guest is Dr Robert Davis. The Davis is an internationally recognized scientists in his field and served as a professor at the State University of New York for over thirty years but graduated with a BA and Ma from the City University of New York and with a PhD in sensory neuroscience from the Ohio State University is published over sixty articles in scholarly journals lectured at national and international congresses on his awarded. Several major grants by the National Institute of Occupational Safety Indian Health to fund search into the neurosciences. So as you can see. Dr Davis has done a large amount of work in the field of neuroscience so if we want to talk to somebody about consciousness then he will certainly no more than most after retiring from his role as a professor and researcher he wrote three books the UFO phenomenon dominant. Should I believe life. After death and analysis of the evidence a most recently unseen forces the integration of Science Reality knew he has published articles and lectured on these topics at national and international conferences and his website is Bob Davis speaks DOT COM. Hi Bob thanks for coming back onto the past lives podcast and coming talk about your new book. It's cooled unseen forces the integration of science reality new. Could you tell us how how you came to write this book well it. It wasn't evolving process. Initially I I've always had that. I've strong interest in paranormal in particular unidentified Phenomenon as many of us back in the sixties and seventies a as we were damaged with space flight and landing on the Moon Sedona Arizona. My wife one summary think we observe to earn jobs. In the night sky they suddenly appeared and then disappeared Bree many stationary her about five minutes A notable impression on me and that led me to write my first book the UFO phenomenon. Should I believe about two years later. I had an incredible lucid dream. I had the strong realization station that might give friend is suffocating. Undying Chow that lucid dream as we now call it was reloaded unreal and I knew that she died and later that morning. It was confirmed that she did. I had another word to share this. That's experience I didn't realize it at the time but that is not a while that on common where some form of communication taking place between the individual who is is dying or in the process of dying. I felt herself again. And it which renders never did I have a type of dream like that before since and then about another two years later and by the way from that experience I wrote my second book a life after death breath analysis of the evidence about two years later I was in Australia giving papers conference when the after the conference a member of the audience came up to me and asked me to join her friends. A party. We went back to the hotel had few drinks and she suddenly said A. How about the doing some healing exercises? Everybody agreed we all sat down. Good Karma round around. Then she started to communicate she started to talk about how to racine grams how to clean up the DNA in our bodies out to make the energy flow. Ah atchoo speaking actually was talking about the removal of negative entities. The bed commands that the that the wrong genetic material that is that the harmful as communicating. I started shaking uncontrollably. Might face was twitching. I felt a tints positive energy throughout my body and I couldn't control myself. I had my cognitive ability to recognize. I said I was under the implements of something that I could not explain yet. I feels good and it could not stop other people also in. That room had kind of similar similar reactions will let me she was doing. She was channeling. Some form of energy but no lint but it did change me I had in other words Tied the Kunda leany experience. As as many people facilitated through many different means and I felt changed in terms of personal viewpoints trump's relationship with life itself in many ways I had in other words a piece experience and that incident led me to write my most recent book unseen forces. And I appreciate you mentioning that and we will. I guess discuss aspects out the book which I find certainly fascinating so so in the book you talk about the peak experience. So what is it what you mean. By peak experience it refers to a broad classification -cations spiritual mystical extraordinary experiences that we are all aware of Reported Artistry Across Cultures. And what what we talking about is basically a altogether nine or Turia onery state of consciousness. It's not the type of consciousness that we experience prince in our normal everyday waking environment It's not the type of feeling having we're having a morning coffee The kinds of experiences heiresses feel more real than real life You talk about it with your guests all the time. They come in many forms shapes and sizes. We're talking talking about altered. Consciousness that can be manifested to near death in auto body experiences meditation hypnosis which you perform very very well to buy data important service. Many individuals people who even psychoactive drugs like Silla Simon Day to react in similar ways in terms of a an extraordinary experience where they have ineffable emotions in alteration gratien time in space. It's insight wisdom what moves me is the visionary encounters on the communication that many of these individuals report having with with non human entities whether they're graze from a UFO that lands in the backyard deceased relatives supreme being it among other types of entities that people appoint interacting throughout the series of yesterday could be today gray's as as many say and there is some some rationale for that but the question is a people having a delusion. Is it a luxury and we still ask those questions. But in my mind it is real because people are moved by the transform diet. They experienced many different changes changes in terms of their experience of separating from their body they know they are distinct now from their body. They have realization Asian of reality. A- being like one eighty cold a cosmic creative energy and they they have this dramatic change in their personal humor. Bill Sophocles viewpoints that cover a wide range of lifestyle issues health. Love Death Pichu -ality oil or modified lied to some extent it in a positive perspective not to say that all of these kinds of experiences don't induce negative Tiv- effects on people they do people have tremendous anxiety after going through these kinds of experiences again which covers a wide range. Change Your Meditation Kunda leany experiences out of body you name it. They are however the that they share one commonality and that is a change in consciousness. It is often in some way but facade unleashing a provides a level of insight into life reality not one's existence meaning that individuals also family Taken Index by it that it does have that dramatic change in their personal viewpoints. Going forward and I have read the some people have an Indiana end up getting divorced host because it changes them so much yes indeed accused studies done that show practically seventy percent of the of of the couple that that we're by one hasn't end e e eventually winds up in divorce which is which does exceed the National Laborat- At least here in America. Oh Yeah Pronounced changes in that person and oftentimes individual. The other person did not have the end east. I I don't know who this person is anymore. The exact dramatically changed. So that it's an enigma. It Julie is there other aftereffects as well aunt they're not just think with NDA's but with other kinds of spiritual and peak experience where people take onsite assigned kind of PSI abilities and they may affect electronic gadgets around them and watches things. There's a tremendous need to throw. The research is to look at how all of consciousness in all of its many different avenues. caused changes in psychological functioning in physiological functioning. And most of the time when we look at these experiments that have been done recency deep benefits in numerous ways via hypnosis. Meditation Censoring Nation psychoactive drug ingestion. Zain again indies. Though we see changes in so many different ways for each individual one and again not all of positive tip but there are changes to geological systems the guests intestinal matic system. People can change the heart rate of those who meditate especially especially very good at it. HYPNOSIS can cause people to stop a bad habits like smoking across a deer psychological changes in terms of attention controlling Oakland and cognitive abilities. People become more creative nine. Everybody again. We're talking about every Considerable variability among individuals visuals. Everybody has their strengths and weaknesses and we need bed on the stand. What aspects of functioning are actually changed and improved upon resulting from each individual type of Alta side of consciousness? We only have a very preliminary understanding of this but this is the key and this is where we kind of bridge that gap between science and spirituality. But we're talking about is trying to take advantage to learn more about in other other words. How these kinds of altered states of consciousness can improve human performance functioning? How can better the human condition because we see remarkable effects with the Maya embody? We're healing take place based on intention alone that has to be developed. We we need to see how that can be improved upon but there is enough enough evidence. The Meta analyses shown considerably throughout the literature. Recently that side functioning parapsychology our psychology also at can result in altered consciousness and that it that eased fears valid There's enough research. inmet analysis has shown that Esp Israel we need to stop trying to convince the scientific community that ESPN Israel. It is yes morton sufficient evidence at all what we're talking about end each out about expand hypnosis etc etc all valid. This is no debate of his existence. People do interact with other entities and is it an aspect of brain function that limits our ability to perceive even other reality where people claim to interact with the relatives again. Supreme being a different kind of space time environment meant that cannot be described it it beyond language to to to capture the unconditional. Love that people also report in this other reality The question is why so many experienced it and not whether or not it is real because because it is real to them it's a matter of scientific paradigms newtonian physics can't explain that unconditional. I love that people feel and take away change as a result of their interaction with an alternate reality. Just GonNa mention what you said in the book about. It's curious interaction with non human entities and we'll select the alien abduction for Domo. They have similar. Behavioral aftereffects affects us with people who have the near death experience. We see unique similarities in behavioral transformative effects. No question question about it In the East where people essentially become more humane over time. I'm you need more short and long term studies to see how people are indeed change from their NDA but people do come away with very common common types of changes in belief systems whereby a no they don't die. The consciousness continues beyond on bodily death. They know that there is another justice and that they will be reunited with their loved one since there is a level of law again as I mentioned earlier take that that that does exist that can be experienced and for the most part these individuals don't want to attempt to the body but there is there is something to be done uh-huh They made physicians comeback their toll to buy some supreme being and why and why the supreme being that the report. What's this all about? Why do people have a after just communication? Why why do people change even though they have a Severe cognitive deficits resulting from stroke. Yet they change in terms of the functional ability just days prior to actually dying with become listen they interact with with the individuals they see a golden light in the in their room they feel a presence of being insight they say similar things just prior to their demise or bodily death as if they know it's approaching function what's that all about she edessa. Expect my gosh it. Singers scientific principles are inadequate to explain it. We all know that up yet. People still trying to prove this is all true. Well it is true and if I may reinforce might might point so how can we benefit from it because we do see these positive outcomes resulting from people who have and the ease in other words. Is it possible to simulate or inducing. Loosen Andy in some people in order to vent in order to have them also gains positive psychosocial aspects excuse a behavioral performance. That people do seem to demonstrate after an end to e not all some are hellish. Small percent. Ten empathize Is Very negative. Let's not forget that. But nevertheless is if some aspect of He's all states of consciousness can that can be simulated induce in order to derive somehow either through a change in brain state or increase in the realization. Shen of what life is all about on the existence of alternate realities which quantum physics is trying to explain to us in it in. It's all the exquisite mathematical formulations. We don't know who will what to believe exists in theory but quantum some physical attempts to explain it and many scientists that died do firmly adopt superstring theories in parallel universes universities as as something that does exist and thus beings non human entities in particular coexist in another space time. Don't question of courses well do individuals in this place tongue somehow interacted down and that is a premise of my book As well as help people are modified by it out people can benefit bud what types Savannah Experiences people report. And what do we need to do in terms of research to better understand what is going on so that we can get to the next level of different paradigm shift in science and Tony in physics Serves US very very well. But we need to also incorporate the qualitative stated the individual the estate of consciousness and is often ignored in the Understanding reality because it can't be measured. We cannot objectively quantified that aspect of consciousness that is a perplexing concept in of itself to new neuroscientists psychologists etc and everybody has is your own definition in criteria to describe consciousnesses. Yet it is. It seems the foundation for all of these altered states days. And you talk about how it's Almost a paradox sort of a conflict there where you were trying to use our consciousness to describe what consciousnesses businesses but you can't use your conscience to analyze your consciousness. Exactly in fact I completely in in fact I've said just that in in other venues Levi stated in my book is the ultimate CARADOC side said yes how can consciousness explaining itself It's like you explain yourselves and guess what how you do so it is oftentimes in anyway while it is different than how others see you. Lille don't know how exactly we portray ourselves on everyday basis to other individuals. The bengals is like we cannot understand ourselves likewise our consciousness understand consciousness. Nobody knows what it is in quantum anthem physicists in signed neuroscientist some of them believe that these quantum processes actually take place in the brain and give rise to consciousness are starting to see this link between brain matter and consciousness the perplexing aspect of trying to measure consciousness. That's the only would be going to explain seen it. We don't even know what we're talking about is the is the realization that I'm aware being aware that it is free will Dictate the different possibilities of future events. A just by my intention alone is is that debt conscious isn't meat telling my brain to do XYZ wisey steering the ship or the brain a high level of cognitive function some complex integrative area area of of this three pound NASA fat and protein comprising one hundred billion. Neurons dictating everything. That I'm doing saying sensing feeling blink. Of course it evolved in this three D.. Were involved lenders. So it's very good it very good at at analyzing and filtering Lorraine and interpreting century information in all of in sensory capacities light sound touch. It does that beautifully. Beautifully curled out of the primordial soup adapted. Well and now I appear right Years later now I appear the big consciousness evolved from that. Yeah it Evolve and I think we are. I think more more people are beginning to find that that side functioning altered subconsciousness. The paranormal are all interrelated. They all represent a a significant aspect of our reality. That should be taken much seriously than this by the average individual and certainly much more serious By researchers who can try at least a better on the stand the essence of the experience that people have when they talk about a near death experience psychoactive of events hypnosis. And how. It's modifying their behavior for the good meditation essentially deprivations as we go along with this. Many different ways facilitate sites reality that do again enhanced positive affect and personality change at the. We need to harness it. We need to focus more attention on to say we see them. Positive Affect people even develop psychic function at least cling to. This is what we need to study more Celtic to document the validity of such claims. We see benefits Notices that you will know from your four of the performance of that of that therapy if you want to go up that yet no therapy in individuals but we also see people developing side phenomena experiencing side phenomena in these different states interacting with non. Humidity's question is late indeed interacting with them if they believe they are than they are. And that's why we need to again. Have that shift in the paradigm. We accept that as reality. Well I found something you said in the book you described Cy testing that was done with a severely autistic child named highly and a therapist. Could you just describe that fortress Chris. Yes noted Noor Adamus and neuroscientist the I forget. Her name is not chill Taylor but nevertheless you work with autistic children in her research Windham has found that there are many autistic savant ons. These are children that are highly disabled are unable to a integrated into regular schools. Have severe behavioral emotional Russian difficulties yet. Yet as we are I think are all aware excel Exceedingly conflicts fashion in one or more areas of the arts or or mass of playing instruments. That defies logical explanation in Hanley's this case she's able to demonstrate ESP. She's able to demonstrate an ability to accurately perceive whether or not a objects out of sight that are drawn a presenting fronting for but she can't see the opposite side she can guess I shouldn't say yes. He actually knows ninety. And better percent accuracy in terms of Determine what colored is what shape it is what what string of numbers it is. She can do mathematical calculations that require of computers to to solve of seeking give answers to the the V six decimal point in response to complex numbers. So The the officer who worked with her chant recall name but she has written a book about her that is extremely owning us. One example that. ESPN's real millions of examples that that not only esp career on site functioning in general that everything talking about it valid and that's a wide range of stuff isn't it that's not explained by current materialistic science. We understand that the what what does it mean. But his implications What is implicated on a person's societal title level? That's when we need to go and in the future that will be tapped a hundred two hundred years from now. There'll be listening to our show and I would like to think I would like to think that consciousness some aspect Govett has been integrated in Einstein's unified field theory along with the two nuclear voltages electromagnetism and and the gravity gravitational forces. That's how important I say that's how fundamental consciousness will eventually be found and to be at an how powerful it is shaping a reality at how we can better utilize it to uh-huh achieve our goals to be happier to be more humane to be better. Human beings and people are evolving spiritually and maybe that that's critical step because as people evolve as people in other words to what to social media I think is one the poon that God listen. Listen to your podcast. For instance by the way in exceptional you have tremendous guests. Are you talking about the issues at hand. I'd love your show. It's like I'm not just saying that. Actually do I am more or less started listening to a few months knowing that I was going to be a guest on your show. I didn't know November so there were very feel that. Get at it the way you do a lot. Our sense mixed with nonsense. You seem to have a lot of sense. People becoming wealthy ritual trying to seek the truth the people that listen to your show and other shows in this genre certainly our all spiritual nature They know there's something else but no there's more to life than just this and it's interesting that many people have that innate spiritual official quest and I do believe that that is an innate tendency probably genetically based because our ancestors also looked to the heavens for answer. Answers dances always questioned. Why the lightning in the sky? Why why people getting changing their appearance over time in getting white hair enchaine unchain and die not moving? Our ancestors way back win always sought answers. I'm anxious OVERC- work many events in their life that they obviously couldn't explain but you know what to Tran- generation EPI genetic inheritance. We likely have some of them that genetic code some of that stuff that also is expressed as it is in us in you in your quest is to finances inches to the unknown. We all know there's something more than ample evidence to support that. What does it mean? Yeah now how can I benefit from it. That's the key linked with old bull so that you can get a free audiobook download download and a thirty day free trial many of the guests that have been on the past life. Post have books available on audible including Dr Ebony Alexander Daughter Bernice any saw Tori and Wendy Rose Williams to download your free audio book today go to audible trial dot com food slash pass lives. podcast you talk a bit about interaction with non human entities. But by that you don't just means means of grey aliens. There's all sorts of entities. I was wondering if you could give us a knife of you of that. Historically we we look at the Folklore Bible and their other obvious examples of references to Ellison fairies gnomes James Jacobs loudness Sky Zeki wheel Saints that can be interpreted as today's you oppose as today's a nonunion entities Zoe's reference to those kinds of interactions That are analogous to current events. But so how many people are report in so many different contexts as we mentioned earlier interactions with the deceased Morvan not relatives and friends When they have their need experiences much less of the time they interacted people that they do not know? oftentimes the supreme entity Even when people are having a peak experience oftentimes in a moment of great distress in despair I talk with alcoholics Moment of of the greatest spared could ever achieve on their their their hands and knees are on the floor they cry sobbing because of their life which is basically destroyed then and only then this individual delman using figure in the room had the sense a strong sense that it was a religious being a very positive loving feeling. Couldn't see the details of the person's face but knew it was Jesus Christ that from that day forward he trained to become a minister and and and spoke throughout the world help benefiting others to his words actions in deeds. Yeah he's not lung. Why do these kinds of stressful events facilitate that people report people report up cost not the only deceased relatives on the foot of the bed During the dying process or or on the foot of the dead right after that that person died that even though the sounds of miles away but was she has experienced wildly. Were dying but the most common type type of of being are the grace at least modern times. It is much more common than one thinks. And we all are well aware of the nonunion entities that seem to correspond with unidentified Phenomena I was once a member of the Doctorate Guy Mitchell Foundation Jason for research into extraterrestrial an extraordinary experiences and we did as a research on over thirty five hundred individuals in response so but six hundred questions. A complex detailed statistical analysis this study eventually with published in the Journal with scientific exploration in twenty eighteen. A very highly recognized scientific journal and soft. About how people who cla people regard themselves as add up abductees contact. He's interacting with not only graze. There were other non human entities suit although primarily the majority of the time they look grace but the most common were human looking. Barnes exactly human like you and when I but had yet what navy ninety percent human. They exuded a radiance of an attraction out some commencing The women were the most beautiful. They've seen women think the midday Seattle That kind of thing is a little different Subtle differences but yes indeed looking as well as the classic grace which we are all aware of the dairying height. The Talgo is short rates or common but also energy beings of energy beings orbs energy beings like on a Arabian glow a sparkly lights and people sense intelligence from method. A good friend of mine experienced in his living room. Not out. He thinks he was abducted. These has memories of it on and his wife also had a similar experience with that with that energy being thank people put a whole host of others like the Brazilians of course in the than the praying mantis seems to displaying certain unique personality galaxy or objectives that is also commonly mentioned by Z's individuals who report being into interacting with them. It seems that that's the most common common even men in black we don't know men in black Pentagon officials are investigating you oppose people's interactions with them or they to some kind of paranormal entity that we can't understand but you know something questions at Gung on and many some things are going on with interactive non human entities and. I think that is obviously a critical question. What's this all about? What their objective they are here people interact with them and obviously if you Jane Track was one of them? The next morning caught days morning. Coffee is going to be a quite different than the one the prior day before that event. How can you not be changed? I can not be changed by. Nda Ob policing sinks. Even I had been shown to benefit people in terms of minimizing the PTSD anxiety depression. More research obviously needs to be done but people who have lost AWASA and and people who interact with you off report very similar nonunion entities. There are unique similarities. In fact Strauss men who did research with psychedelics. Back in the early two thousands. He met me John Mac actor noted UFO research. Psychiatrist from Harvard University. They met to discuss their each respective research. That is Rick Stroud. Did Research with the DMC in about fifty patients like again John. Mack focus his research in about three hundred individuals who claimed to have been adopted or contacted by in being with you from U. F. L.'s. They were according to draftsman blown away by the similarities blown away by the similarities to the experiences that people reporting in terms of their interaction with these things despite the dissimilar context styles gang suicide aside versus you you there are differences the raw similarities What can we learn from that that remains to be seen but people appears versions of Experiencing in another reality housing this reality are aspects of the consciousnesses of the being. The other intelligence says that may it seemed it seemed to be largely benevolent. Share information with people oftentimes into information that is shared is confusing nonsensical. But sometimes said we know people report that they're given warnings mornings about what we're doing to the planet also things we think we would hear from an entrance intelligence looking at our planet and all the problems we experience all those things things that we say would be said to us. People report the tell us when we're on the road to nuclear armageddon with destroying the ecological logical system. That's why these people who do have interactions with many of these entities. Become much more ecologically sensitive much more concerned learned about the welfare of our planet and they often join a movement so causes that help promote wellness. Listen others as well as wellness concerns and objectives for the planet through various movements in causes at Ed. So it's quite quite astonishing. What is happening now Just wish I could see what went how this would would eventually vomited allow. I remember reading books decades ago where the people were saying they reducted by Liens and they were given given these great big warnings about the state of the planet. And what we're doing to her and that was years before anybody was talking about global warming. I wanted to ask Hugh about something. The original book said this was part of the study that was in the Journal of scientific exploration where they said that sixty seven percent of the people reported that consciousness separate from their body at the time of the experience on seventy percents said they felt a sense of expanded consciousness. Gotcha snus because I have read other stories of alien abductions where there's been somebody who said that they've they hurt. They Lake and throughout their life. What's really bad limp? But when they were with the aliens the limp was gone. It was like he wasn't the body. Is Donna thing. The medical healings are not uncommon and those who interact with these entities. In fact are there is a chapter in the book on UFO's of Britain by the Doctorate Dementia Foundation and which again talk about how individuals are heals spontaneously from diseases that medical couldn't couldn't deal is another similarity between these contact. Medalla these how people reports that they I who when you are is separate from the body has it come to that. Realization again is is curious indeed but they appeal as you. You're owning earnings. Knows this more real than real and it is real so the point his of the point is of why does it happen with with the U. of open nominee. We know it happened with the IAN. Ob even it even seem to appear in in those who experienced psychoactive effects WASCO it may appear in hypnosis right. You would know better than anyone can obviously speak to that certainly more than I meditation in some the online so it is indeed remarkable but it remains to be seen how how best we can answer the underlying questions that that emerges phone do you feel deal that the interactions with the UAP's in these kind of alien beings is just a modern version of what has been going on for hundreds or thousands of years of people interacting with some kind of being and maybe this is where elves came from. Oh indeed indeed in the Can make a strong case for how historical narratives are analogous Paolo. Arlo what we are experiencing today the languages in certainly quite different belief systems cultural affects. It's hard to sometimes understand Accurately what did being portrayed in these narratives from from the past but weakened we could only we speculate can only speculate. What is going on? I I do think however if we would give an answer to what is going on and is this quite likely. Many different things are cheering. I think we couldn't understand it nor could we handled it especially if we don't have had that realization that people do sued the peak experience with another update body their noses in another reality they know this other beings debt prepared dip appear Ed for the bulletin on the six o'clock moods that guess what on Earth are indeed interacting with human entities. It's been going on for EONS. You know if it was acknowledged if it could be proven Signed not anytime soon will be proved but if it could be proven they'll be mass hysteria many would accepted many. Couldn't who knows what would lead to. We can only speculate a lot of bad a lot of good but but you don't WanNa do that to a society it rocks the boat that that's not right And maybe that's why these entities aren't declaring themselves on their presence on the White House lawn so to speak or parliament. Wherever out the thing is the thing is of why saying is? Why do people have the realization that did not their body so the NDA in ob? And I think it's because we are limiting the brains influence. Somehow these these events like an indie like meditation like hypnosis. These quiet the brain they change the annoys signal ratio reduced. Annoys people often report a many positive benefits of just meditation alone. And we know that meditation you can effectively changed physiology of the body like heart rate blood pressure. Many things for the good especially a practice swell by those experience certainly has been shown time and time again there is. It's mind body relationship. That is hard to ignore that is stronger than people think. As the placebo effect exists but nevertheless we see received this all priscilla consciousness giving rise to the realization that the body and at this consistent. This is what what I can't ignore the consistency since similarity of the same of what of the of these realizations. Money's not important materialism is not the key. Happiness love that Nice yes. Since of what's what life's all about being sympathetic empathetic. A trying to elevate not being egotistical. All that stuff all all the stuff we want to be to be more humane date. Come to that realization of how successful they are. That's the way it's research also needs to go certainly really. How do these individuals benefit over time? They as a benefit. Let's let's studied more extensively. Some has been done but look we're just now getting some very interesting studies done by leading organizations like like John Hopkins. They did a study in individuals. Flu took Many of these individuals report not interacting with entities that are elemental more cartoonish and it can appear many different types. Animals animal Human looking exception but hit this is defining that moves made in a large portion of those who who were atheists who took Seles Ivan to surge of them believed for the first time in the existence. The supreme being. That's important point this affects. The SILLA Seidman was so pronounced that facilitated facilitated the change in a belief system as so dramatic ads. You existence of a supreme. Being remarkable isn't question of course causes. Why even a study done at Harvard? Recently these published studies refereed journals the essence. It's of the experience the end the eighty s of the LLC experience Z. Z.. Ob experienced these things. A meditative states very similar the essence characteristics the attributes of what people go sir whenever reporte sang's are similar alert in many ways only one to three studies at most on this but but dishes where certainly we need to go to better understand. Tamla people are feeling trying to capture as best as possible using language which is a Detrimental to begin with because it can't capture what what people are going through very well. At least that's what they say is in inevitably inevitably quality to the missile teach experience. That's the the primary component as mentioned by William James is back in the early nineteen hundreds when he first described these kinds of mythical states so they walk could the Silla Sabin be doing to us is almost switching off that part of the brain that stop Sir spiritual experience or or is it just the chemical thing and it's just messing up rains in your could You could only speculate I wish I had an answer and in answers. We can't provide seized. Ask questions and we should. It's unfortunate however that what we generate more questions on a daily basis improvise efficient reasoning analysis for so we only speculate we talk about it. I know what it's fun to do so is could start. We learn from it. We understand that that you and others have similar kind. We have similar kinds of questions. We just frustrated that. We don't have the Frustrating for me. Sometimes I get angry I want. I want to figure what's going on because because I know something is going on. But it's so Donna lucile. It's like right in front of my face when I say I WANNA have. You WanNa have an indie in L. Johnson Don't wish for it. Sometimes it's often very negative and at any left wing side in a spiritual emergency as a result can be very negative. Don't wish I had that Khalid experience I know there is something. It wasn't as dramatic as ninety or you. At Interaction on shift but knocks your socks off. Nevertheless something goes wrong brain from Iowa. Ask people often look at the possibility that domestic fifth demeaned which is secreted insert small quantities in the peanut Glenn of the brain micro doses? We stayed in rat brains. And it has been speculated to be able to. Maybe maybe who knows facilitates psychic phenomena reduce however see One area where spirituality may even be a house in the brain epsilon parietal lobe feel of neuro sociology. aww goes in this direction. Trying to find whether or not God is a God nor is is religion embedded in our brains is hardwired and to some summit since we see that it might be the belief is what is religion of basically saying we quest for knowledge we against us the question strive to in All about the and everybody does it to some extent some of course more than others but why that is Lisa question why and we talked about it grievously but we also we also don't understand how the brain might also facilitate it psychic experiences with or a realization a of another reality the visual aspects of interaction interacting with a different environment alterations in space in time it had brain. Is that a brain event and I address that in my book. Is it a psychopathology or a spiritual awakening People in other words seeing a different world or are they saying this world differently differently and some are indeed psychotic. Some are good some type of undue have illusions and we need to weed them out of any study while others are are extremely well-balanced and have these experiences dad they know Israel. We don't support them the way we can or should there are not sufficient counselors psychologists well equipped to deal with specific types of psychological problems called spiritual emergency by Stanislav Who Redress that in his excellent book? They want people in your own inside that too when be surprised. At least who are experiencing experiencing anxiety or depression confusion because of their unexplained experience whether it's a coon leaning whether it's an interaction with an entity entity a you AP etc whatever it might be the left bewildered confused and thus anxious anxious as a c cancers and they're afraid to talk to others about it for fear ridicule in that kind of situation I was I was. I wouldn't tell everybody about coon DELINEA- experienced Experiences we all understand how how that's perceived on average average and it's unfortunate that it is eventually the paranormal that we've call today will be considered normal eventual. I'm not saying maybe a hundred years from now how things evolve slowly thinking about one hundred maybe two hundred years before yeah people are doing. ESP hangs before people healing themselves with the conscious intention intention before people love yeah Before all people reach an elevated level of consciousness where they're more spiritual mutual happier as a result healthier as a result understand the meaning of life as a result. If not all about money all that stuff we know that'd be tried to follow more often than not unsuccessful we we we have those ideals and that will eventually we will all have that. Yeah I was GonNa say it seems like the The medical profession and psychologists psychiatrists kind of turn away from indies and alien abductions. Because people might come some do have a real crisis with this but soon as they hear those two things things they worried about how there seemed to be if they're taking somebody seriously who comes to them with this and it seems like there's no research done properly properly on how to properly psycho analyze or medically treat someone who claims these things mean an abduction. Yeah correct yeah without question. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes in some knowledge secret accurate access program did. There's some deep dark level stuff. I'm sure Operating along these lines we do know that Bob Bigelow the the entrepreneurial been doing research with paranormal skim off the ranch in Utah as well. UAB along it's a tip of up those who are familiar with What's this is all about delay? You know the latest major funding Yuko Ufology But the NIMITZ TIC TAC that everybody's raving about the On who knows what that is but but yes maybe there is some research if going on it seems to be the day also looking at consciousness in how it's incorporated within. UFO's house Because we report telepathic communication. Prepare reports psychic events alterations of space. Time Levitation come on the people report Knowing that the past present future simultaneously so consciousness is a key component here and there's no lack of effort circuit what what funding agency is going to spend a few million dollars for who are some academic research in Harvard University to to study goats. Reincarnation you those as Ed's semi Being conducted of course ions and at the Institute in the Sciences of certainly there. There is some very good research going on but certainly few and far between at and we need a multidisciplinary effort to understand what has happened. But more than that we needed changing the scientific paradigm in order to study it and not to rely on some unacknowledged Special access program and no even if the government did have knowledge and they do some aspect of the government probably deep military on what you want call you know a few people in our in the now or lease no more than others and it's up secret and I'm sure that's true within the M. O. D. as nick pope would say And many other countries a lot of stuff happening that's not shared and they don't know the answers. I'm pretty convinced that and they don't want to reveal because the public is GonNa ask them what's going on and they're in the position. Being elected officials for the most part to provide answers is to provide security to make people feel at ease comfortable maintain order. So why are they going to announce that that people are indeed interacting with non human entities. That could or could not be associated with a UA P with a ten foot rectangular silver disc people being taken on board and some of them even experienced medical procedures sexual sexual a experiences even and see hybrid babies and all of that that we hear about if they knew that they will. They shouldn't say Because they don't they don't have the they don't have the answers as to why it's happening and what's going on truly and they don't want to upset the government. Achieving don't want to upset the public by should day especially since they can't defend it they don't have answers so they're gonNA look foolish weak ineffective in the publicize. It doesn't go anywhere. Society is afraid to acknowledge now. What is your view of this thing where people report being introduced to their hybrid children? I get the impression that it is in some way someone wants to do with consciousness. This interaction with these UFO's in these aliens but on the other side there's this weird thing with the hybrid children and I so the doctor. David Jacobs thinks it's quite a sinister thing. Yeah and non. I don't take the David Jacobs of too seriously. I commend. I'm for research efforts but I don't. I don't agree with everything he says. Not Not all interactivities beings sexual nature resulted in hybrid. Children does exist yes Medical Examiner go exist but not to the extent that Jacobson others field contended attended. Does a hypo `NIGMA I. I don't have any basis than to know what's going on other than many people reported right. Yeah and they do have that that sense that the the baby wants place in their arms is there's so there is yes a dimension a conscious conscious connection the realization to that many feel that they're at home and many have ended e and Tansy. Michiko life experiences through obese Say That I feel like I'm home on back where I belong. I wonder about that is that is it. It's all that a kind of like that psychological reflex of the brain. That's building will be when we have severe stress. When we confronted with the unexplained unexplained whatever it might be a goes into some kind of survival mode like a fighter flight but didn't a mental way Illusion that comforts us from a dramatic negative full boating event soon to occur. I don't know I can't help but not think about that. I don't know I don't know what to make of. The high birds is genetic manipulation. My good friend. Mary Rodwell at work with her again on that tree committee and she is given many speeches with many books on on the new human. She contends that there is a new Yemen and they can be hybrid in nature and they are integrated analysis siding writing. Maria's says the she has some support from a fusion insists contend that contended ended up the the much of the DNA. That's unaccounted for is dip position alien in it. It was not applied it to incorporate possibly some what evolution of consciousness. That's what they go out there and I know people give tweeted boo-boo and I don't want to advocate that this track because it's I can't say it is. I'm just saying there's a lot of tax. Id Hydra children that our up cost genetic related terms of what's going on with these kids isn't isn't a an any attempt to modify genetic material to allow further evolution of beings on this planet. The humans To knows who knows but it is look it's interesting stimulating even fun to discuss kick around and and we have to come to the realization to that. We're that's that's about just about all we can do right now. Kick it around talk about. Can't prove it other blend except the anecdotal position that so many take and to study that the qualitative in other words qualitative information nation the essence of the experience. Oh you still hybrid. Let's see how many people are advancing hybrids and where where was when it happened. The do feels consciousness separated from your body. It was a whole body. was there when you when you when you held cato boy did you feel was another a double view. Another one. Another reality Lines maybe Physicist status branching tree many realities parallel universes all that jazz. So the way while you are you in Another Moorefield another time space will describe it. Let's analyze it. You wearing a watch. Can you scratch your. Can you scratch your but can you tell a joke. You know what I mean. What's life at the? What is life out there? And that's what we gotta go. What is the essence of the experience? That people are reporting something else you touch on which I find really fascinating which seems so weird. Almost like the universe's versus messing with us is with these synchronicity his which brings us to Kalayaan who coined the term zero. Certainly something to synchronicity. And people think coincidence mere coincidence distinctiveness I. It isn't please on the stand. Synchronous is quite specific and that there has to be an event that is not only time locked. But it's also critical meaning attached to that you need time blocked event. It's more than just a phone call from a friend who haven't spoken to in seventeen years who you knew who was gonNA call it. Did in fact call it a remarkable coincidence according to make it a synchronicity is that is you also knew you possibly the information that I personally don't share with you That's that is a synchronicity. It seems like that and they happen all the time and and you not at you're aware of that chiming meaning timing meaning. If you're aware of that you'll see it but first comes the ability to be mindful of it which is kind of interesting. It's important prerequisite and they did exist list at Deficits Gotten Bob with this the Become aware of the secret necessities of just on a non non non. It's remarkable A friend of mine a friend of mine I look at us from the mind of was getting dissertation. He wanted to write to a leading researcher. he wanted to send me an email about something important to be doing. He decided not to and he regretted so a a couple of weeks after daddy he went on vacation. He went to some remote island in the Pacific ejection to sometimes hotel. They got out there. When he's running his name in the guestbook happens to notice the name of the scientists he will to send an email to but decided not to thinking that that might be just a commission to us? He was curious enough to hang around. And that the long directors I recall he didn't notice that scientists walking down the stairs. No doubt stunned he. He the approach They discuss the remarkable coincidence. Something you'd call beyond chance. How do you explain something like that? That happened I explained something like that and many things happen. Like that to the extreme. And if you look look online in and finding these stories many of us I'm sure. Audience remarkable synchronicity. It says something I heard recently. He's like on some shows. Somebody says I think this is one way deceased relatives attempt to communicate with. Maybe it's true you're up Knapik. Maybe maybe it's true luck assignment. I hope you enjoyed the book What what are your thoughts about the? Yeah I did enjoy it. It's almost must like a different take on. It all hasn't sort of come forward before because I I get to read a lot of books because I have guests and I really liked the way you've brought things together and you talk about so let's spirit communication and you a pays and alien abductions and then you talk about synchronicity. And it's kind of thing where before people have looked at it and they've just looked at the experiences in that zero. They've just looked aliens. Isn't that say but what you're doing you're saying. Hang on a second this similarities. Here this could be connected. And there's something strange going on with consciousness on how that all comes together in the universe. Simon you're exactly right in if there's if there's ZANU message for your guests it's just that you hit you Neyla as they say and there is some kind of integration among these kinds of experiences it all comes down to an opposite consciousness. And how can we benefit from it and What does that mean? What is donal state of consciousness? And how can we maybe achieve it to the betterment of humankind indeed can learn something from it Yeah I think my next book will be in extension of this possibly so I appreciate Asia. Kind words thank you well. It's great if you to come back on the podcast and talk about the book and I hope in the next when you get the next book how you come back again. Wouldn't you think that will be. It'll be nine to twelve months from now but I appreciate the invitation. I'd certainly look forward into it and I know you'll keep on doing this type of work presenting said valuable information. Sierra Sierra Audience Again commendable APP on your part and also the the service you provide the foam hypnotherapy if I'm if I'm portraying it correctly you provide numerous benefits in many ways to individuals suit that technique that thank you helping the human condition Investing people can do to help us and people can get your book on the Amazon. And it's on kindle and paperback that's correct unseen forces the integration of science reality. And you by Robert Davis and my website is Bob Davis speaks DOT COM. That BOB DAVIS SPEAKS DOT COM. That's one word. Bob Davis speaks a phrase so I do hope you all enjoy the both of you decide to read it but thank you very much Simon. I appreciate that. Thank you for coming on the show And that was an interview with Dr Robert Davis. Don't forget if you'd like to support the cost. 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SoftBank Posts Its Worst Results Ever
"The end of the article isn't the end of the story. The Journal podcast goes behind the scenes with reporters and covers everything from the Mormon Church's one hundred billion dollar fund to Corona virus. Listen to the Journal on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your Tech News. Briefing for Tuesday may nineteenth. I'm Qatari Yoga for the Wall Street. Journal the tech investing giant Softbank has reported its worst results in history but its losses aren't just because of the pandemic through its Vision Fund. The company has made huge bets on risky companies. That haven't always paid off. Remember we work our reporter. Rolfe winkler will join us to explain. That's coming up after these headlines last week the trump administration announced a new rule requiring chipmakers that use technology to get a license before working with the Chinese telecom giant way now while we has responded calling the action quote arbitrary and pernicious and saying that the rule could jeopardize always ability to maintain telecom. Networks are senior editor. Bob Davis reports. That the industry's convoluted supply. Chains could make the administration's rule difficult to enforce with all the intermediate steps in producing computer chips. They go from. You're making wafers adding components to testing and assembling. There's many many different steps you can lose that that traceability of knowledge and Make It easy for company. Denied that they know where the technology came from where it's headed and that could be a loophole that would allow companies not to Need a TR- Commerce license to supply why the video platform Tick Tock announced on Monday that. It's getting a new. Ceo The Disney executive. Having mayor at Disney mayor had been in charge of the streaming service Disney plus and he'd actually been passed over to replace Bob Iger as the chief of Disney earlier this year. Now Mary is joining. Tick Tock Parent Company. Bite dance as COO where he'll lead global expansion in its music and gaming businesses and of course as the head of tech talk and Uber has announced more cost cutting measures the CEO announced in email to staff on Monday that the ridesharing company would be eliminating three thousand jobs and closing forty-five offices Uber will also reevaluate big bets on areas like freight and self driving technology. The cuts are the second round of layoffs in recent days. Meaning that Uber has shed about a quarter of its workforce in under a month. Stay at home. Orders have been a major challenge. Uber's ride hailing business which accounted for most of the company's revenue before the pandemic Uber is of course one of the major companies that make up Softbank's Vision Fund Softbank reported its results for the twenty nineteen fiscal year on Monday. And after the break will talk about those results and what they could mean for. Companies like Uber in the future when the world is at a standstill facts can move us. Forward facts helps make decisions and bring us together. Even as we're apart the Wall Street Journal has the facts in these uncertain times. Get the latest on the corona virus outbreak with free coverage of the crisis and its impact on the economy politics culture and daily life. Find the clarity. You need with America's most trusted news source visit wsj.com and stay informed in the past four decades. Softbank Group has made a name for itself as one of the biggest names in tech investing since twenty. Seventeen it's been pursuing an aggressive strategy of throwing huge sums of money early stage startups in the digital space through its vision fund on Monday. Soft Bank reported its results for the twenty one thousand nine fiscal year giving us insight into how it's impacted by the pandemic and also whether it's investment strategy has been paying off our reporter. Rolfe winkler has the latest and he joins us now. Thanks for being with us here. All right so Ralph. Before Softbank even posted its results had told investors to expect a seventeen billion dollar writedown. Can you tell us about the actual results? That was the key result. They had forecast a lot of this for the year. Softbank ended up with nine billion dollar loss when you factor in the investment results with all all the other stuff they have going on including their operations. The other things that happened Jack. Ma who is the founder of Alibaba was on the Board of Softbank? He's leaving the board. That was a key thing we learned today. And oh by the way they're also pairing back some of their stake in T. mobile which they got with the merger with sprint. They're also paying back. Some of their alibaba stake. Which is why a reason Jack. Mosley the soft bank board. So do these announcements. Give us any more clues as to where Softbank is right now. Sure what we know about Softbank is that it's a bit over levered. They've got a lot of debt so they have to repair their balance sheet. They have to sell down some asset. So they can pay off some debt but also they want to buy back a lot of stock. That's that's a main thing that's going on. Ever since Elliott management the activist investor got involved and encouraged the company to go ahead and do do some share buybacks. Why did they want to do that? Boost the price boost the stock price. A lot of times activist investors. Their goal is to in effect lever up a company. If you use the cash to buy back stock you're in effect increasing the ability of the company to boost. Its return on equity right. If you believe in the future of the company if you buy back stock the people who continue to hold the stock their returns will be boosted. So let's zoom in on the Vision Fund. This is things flagship fund as it. Were you told us in yesterday's show that Softbank had taken on a risky strategy for this fund from the very start that they were funneling huge sums of money into early stage companies. How Did the Vision Fund Fair and twenty nine hundred not well? They had a whole bunch of big issues. I mean the biggest issue. Everybody knows we work. The the Shared Office Space Company. They just collapsed. It's very easy to grow quickly. A LOT OF START UPS. Lot of private tech companies have done this. They've grown quickly. Can you call it a tech company? You can't but nevertheless it's still part of this universe. They've grown quickly by you. Know selling a dollar for eighty cents. You LOSE MONEY. You can grow fast. And we work did that like crazy signing a whole bunch of long-term leases renting out space and just growing and growing and growing with an eye toward profitability sometime in the distant future That was actually a common theme of a lot of Softbank investments. Where they're just growing at all cost. Never mind the bottom line. This is all gonNa make sense in the future. The problem is when we work happened and the public market said you know we're not going to buy the shares we're not GonNa let you IPO. We're not interested in a company. Losing this much money. Well then all of a sudden some muscle realizes wait a minute the invest strategy. I've had for all of my companies. I mean I've got to get an exit to I've got to be able to sell these companies off. Eventually most of them many of them probably by via an IPO and the public market is telling him growth at all. Costs is not what we're going pay for. He had to readjust his strategy. And that is what happened towards the last fall into the end of last year and then by the way Kovin just hammered them even more because a lot of their top investments are really invulnerable industries. I was GONNA say we're talking about twenty nineteen but we've obviously seen in the first three months of this year a lot of those companies that they'd put big money into Uber for example also Taking a massive head. What are they looking like For the first quarter good question So for the first quarter I do. The quarter ended march. That's what they just reported. They had a lot of down there because of course at the end of March that's when the market had declined quite a bit now. It's come back a lot in the second quarter. A lot of stimulus has brought has brought stocks back so you can see them writing up the evaluation of some of their investments here in the current quarter. Which could could help them that said the actual fundamentals of the businesses in which they've invested a lot of them are in deep trouble. Uber said Monday they were GONNA lay off another. Three thousand people have already said. We're GONNA have thirty seven hundred and the CEO said there. Ride hailing business. It's their core business off eighty percent four-fifths of the business gone and by the way the stock is up on the year. Go figure that. But that's a discussion for another podcast point being you know the long-term prospects for this business are maybe they're better? Maybe more people will get in a car and that's why this versus getting on public transit and that's why the stocks up but for the moment they're just bleeding badly and that's true of a lot of their investments. They've got three of their biggest. Investments are ride hailing deedee in China Uber and then grab in Southeast Asia. Then you have oil hotel and homes in India which has seen a gigantic hit. It's business down fifty to sixty percent. Of course there's we work in there which has also you know they already had problems last fall and you know you WanNa talk about the business. That's going to struggle in the middle of a pandemic take one that's been signing long term leases to sub lease office space and everyone then goes and works from home. Yeah and I think what you brought up earlier is really a big question. You know the idea of throwing money at visionary leaders who weren't profitable but had big ideas that were disrupting industries was really the focus of the Vision Fund. That was already kind of coming to an end before the pandemic. What does this mean for tack and for those kind of innovative industry changing ideas in the future? Are they going to see less money available to them? No I don't think so. In fact you could make an argument that they may see more money right now because again stimulus the amount of money that's flowing into the economy that's being printed is epic and that money's going to want to find a return in a in a zero interest rate environment. A lot of that's going to go to tech especially since tech is benefiting parts of tech are going to benefit dramatically from working from home. The thing that's to note about softening strategy investing in visionary founders. That's what venture capital is all about often people who haven't figured business model out yet aren't making money. You're just betting on someone who you think is smart and is going to solve a big problem but historically the way that works. Is You bet on that person at the beginning you you give them a big valuation. You know okay. The businesses in theory at but. I think you're smart. I'm going to give you twenty million dollars here and so and by the way. Masa did that famously. With Jack Ma. Alibaba twenty million dollar investment early on turns into an amazingly huge lucrative investment. Down the line that's true venture capital early stage. The problem with Softbank is what he decided to do was he would throw a whole bunch of money at the visionary founders later in their life cycle. So they're they're much more mature companies even though they're much larger companies even though they're larger they haven't yet matured to the stage where they can make money. They're not yet profitable and they have. They haven't yet settled on that business model even though they're very late in their in their development by most startup standards. And so you're sort of taking hall of the risk of venture capital model right betting on somebody who doesn't have a subtle business model and compounding it by adding the risk of late stage growth investing at a high valuation. When you don't have a lot of people who can come after you and by the way in illiquid stock in private companies. You can't easily sell to someone else so it was just really not a good recipe from the beginning so all that said. Softbank has been planning to raise cash for a second vision fund. How likely does that seem now? That was basically dead earlier this year and Masa even said on when when they reported earnings said. It's not going well quote. Sometimes I get asked the funding for Vision Fund to is. Okay said Mr sewn quote. It's not the reality. Is THEY A second vision? Fund mostly using their body using. Softbank has some money but they weren't able to get money from outside investors. Who Just said you know what we've put enough money into your strategy and it's time for that first fun to generate some returns get a similar quantity before we decide to give you any more all right our partner. Ralph Winkler thank you so much for joining us. Thank you okay before we go there still time to share your work from home tech stories and questions with us. Our senior personal tech columnist to Anniston will be back on Friday to share her best tips and solutions. You can call us and leave us a voice message at the number in the description or you can email Joanna at Joanna dot stern at wsj.com and that was your tech news briefing. I'm Qatar Yokum for the Wall Street. Journal things for listening.
Mind Your Own Business: Vanessa Joy discusses client expectations and relationship building
"You're listening to the mind your own business. PODCAST ended helping photographers. Learn how to make the leap from amateur to pro. Hello and welcome to mind your own business. A joint effort brought to you by photo. Focus and Skip Cohen University this issue Marianne and hand. I'm joined by my co host and fellow photographer. Skip Cohen skip. Our fellow photographer might be a reach. EU You you me. I'll take fellow qualify. Yes I do. Hey this is great happy New Year new you thank you. This is a kick to start without the new year today with one of my favorite artists. We've got Vanessa joy joining US and based out of New Jersey where she lives with her husband and her kids. She is one the most recognized artists in the industry right now. She is an educator and she's a friend is so many different people in the industry on our website in your about Out Section. This a sentence I want to share and it says a lot about the way she positions her love for the business and photography. And it's quote. My hope is one day. Your children and grandchildren discover your wedding album and you pass on the story of your love through it close quote. She's not just capturing images for an album. It's not a book of pictures she's creating the first family heirloom of a brand new family. Everybody that there should. It'd be a little angels up in the corner of your your office now playing the trumpet on that. It's not just a book of photographs. It's a story so Vanessa this is going to be the cue for your lips to move. Thanks so much kicking off twenty twenty on today's podcast. Welcome to mind your own business. Thank you so much for having giving me. This is going to be fun. This is definitely going to be fun and your your schedule gets crazy. In fact it's already crazy and I know you're headed to imaging urging you as a in Nashville so that kicks off the year and it's nonstop. So yeah I don't remember the last time. It was not crazy to be honest. Yes but you know when you like what you do. It's it's what you WANNA do Christmas. Just past and Robin. I didn't have childcare. We both own our own businesses. So what that means houses you know we get to hang out with our kids but our businesses go on hold and by the time new years past spent the last week with our kids. The two of us just looked at each other. And we're like I want to go to work. I can't wait to go to work to get away from my kids. It was just I miss working. I like what I do. I want to keep doing it so I think it might be the one thing. I miss more on vacation. Anything Tuesday as you have it comes through and all your images comes comes through when you teach a class it comes through with everybody that meets you. You do love what you do. And there's that old line about if you love what you never work Daniel life and that's what you you walk the talk. I try talk about walking the talk. I mean looking at your at your images online your portfolio and of course course I see you everywhere and so so excited to have you on the show Vanessa. Your passion absolutely comes through and We like to kick it off with our favorite favorite question asking you about how you even stepped into the photography industry. How did you get started? It's live it's not a long story you know I could sum it up with. My mom is a photographer and my grandmother was a journalist. Who is actually one of the first women journalists in the Senate here in New Jersey? So it's in my blood blood. Are we say my mom gave me the eye but my father was a business owner and he taught me how to work for it and in between you know starting to understand photography harder phen- running my own business. I took it in high school and my photography teacher in high school did weddings on the weekends so after I graduated and started going to school to Spanish teacher believe it or not I went back to my high school and just an ask for a job. I believe I was there to cut Samak's because they didn't like the the cutter that was at my college and I was taking some charter. FY Classes there and I ended up working for him for. I WANNA say five or six years before I went ahead and started my own business and eventually quit teaching Spanish because I really did not enjoy that that was I like working every day of my life and that's it just kept moving rowing from there and then through in the education side after a few trade shows and I'm not in a bad way while kind of in a bad way. I'll just be honest. It's I would look at these photographers that were so good and I was so envious I just wanted to learn every little ounce every little drop of what I could from them but they didn't know how to teach a concept so I have a bachelor's degree in education and I used to be a teacher and I thought to myself you know maybe I could teach a little bit of photography on the side of what I do for weddings and the did that and then that grew and now right now at about a fifty fifty split between income and time of the weddings that I photograph and and all the teaching that I do There's nothing like working under someone for a number of years as far as gaining real world photography experience. Oh Yeah I got to make all of my mistakes on his diamond. You know it's interesting and most people don't realize but fifty fifty percent of the industry in the portrait social category which is wedding in portraiture are made up of part-time photographers. And there's there's always been a very high correlation going way way back. I mean going back thirty forty years ago between teachers and wedding photography because the wedding the the wedding industry used to be it had some really strong boundaries starting in in April and finishing later on in the year but it was always was kind of most weddings. Were taking place in the spring now. They're all year long but it was perfect for teachers because the summer would come along and a teacher's out of the job for the summer until the fall and photography jumped in plus. It's a weekend event and they're teaching during the week and it's just interesting when you said you're here you know you had a teacher who was also wedding photographer. Great Experience and speaking of teaching. I'd love to know because you're doing when you mentioned you know it's about a fifty fifty split now. What kind of trends are you seeing in what photographers seem to need the most when you're Teaching all your classes and I know like I said you've got one coming up at imaging. USA In another week or so yeah. It's it's kind of nonstop who to be honest. I teach outside the photography community as well so this is a photography podcast. Although you know with your title it could be really not really anything Business kind of is like math. It's the same in every language. It's the same in every industry but so I speak outside of the photo industry as while I speak to small business owners and teach them how to run a business. social media is definitely a big part of what I teach outside is. Well well what what trends. You're you're seeing. Let's just hit photography for second. But then I'd love to get into the common elements between a small business owner of any business because photographers just. Don't they don't realize sometimes they're small business owners in terms of in terms of what seems to be missing it. A lot of skill sets for photographer's any trends that you're seeing that you know. Here's where a lot of people seem to need help. You know the trends. I've certainly seen them over the past twenty years the trend right now that I see that most needs. It's there's two sides of the fence and there's going to be kind of controversial. I guess I was about to say it most needs fixing but that that's debatable is the difference between Photography Team Photoshop. And I see a lot of that now whether it's professional photographers. Here's our hobbyists. Our instagram hours. Or whatever it is. It's creating a lot of different issues And I believe digital art is absolutely art and photography and then sometimes you meld the two. But what's happening with that. Trend of really adding a lot of digital art to photography Fi. Is that one. People are not by people. I mean brides for me. They're not understanding. How how difficult it is to photoshop so their expectations get a little bit? Skewed they think. Oh just for shop every single one of my thousand images that that you talk you know. Make make me skinnier make knee plastic looking. Make me this is bigger. Make you know whatever it is. And it's creating unrealistic doc expectations for professional photographers. Who have a client that comes in and wants to wants their photos from their wedding to be feast tuned? I also think that it's not healthy for everyone else. WHO's seeing all of these images because even professional photographer for sometimes cannot tell the difference between photography and Photoshop? So then you know whether it's I'm looking at somebody in how they lit something but it's really not how they taillefer shop it and then I'm disappointed in my work or it's a young girl looking at a completely photoshop older woman that you know wants to you look like that. But it's unrealistic and she doesn't realize it instagram in the past week and I don't know if this was a hoax surf it was real. I'm pretty sure was real real but I saw that instagram starting to take down throws that were to manipulated in post so so that it would not be ally it were staying. Yes so that's a long winded answer. But I think it's it's a pretty serious thing to consider. Not only in photography and as a trend can keep up with these expectations and things like that but also in our culture as a complete mental help their reality reality health issue well as a photographer offer. Are you taking steps towards. I'd be curious to hear about the process of your client education. Educating a client so that their expectations speculations are realistic. I know this is kind of putting you on the spot but are you able to name any steps that you take in order to on board your clients correctly. Oh absolutely the Non Photoshop thing is something that I say to them when they are consulting with me. You had that conversation about photography style or what they're looking for and what. I usually tell them is that you know my my work is exactly how you see it. That sky that you see right here that that was the sky on their wedding day. I'm not adding things that didn't happen to tell your story because then your story won't be real anymore and I'll even go as far to tell them. You know anything that we print on the wall or put in your album apple retouched the complementary just asked me and let me know what you want me to touch but to be honest I only get about about one percent of people that ever asked to have any photo retouched. Because of the way that I photograph it's meant to smooth out skin and to be very flattering to you so most people don't even ask for any any photoshop at all that's fantastic. That's very very smart and sustainable way to do it. Yeah Yeah and it. That's most of what it is is just setting those expectations since from beginning. Now that's not going to be for everyone of certainly had people that are like no. I want everything photoshop. That won't be skinnier. I WANNA be whatever it is like. That's great here's a photographer in her wonderfully for you. And you know ethically morally it is kind of. It can be a fine line of work for the magazine Industry and retouching models to look. You know to add twenty pounds here removed. Twenty pounds there and then presenting those images to the world it is very easy as as an everyday consumer to you lose touch with reality with what's real and what's not in images so I love the way you handle that issue because that is a very big issue well well along in that same vein. I'm curious about actual products. Of what kinds of things are you saying that are hop with clients right now. Now I mean we've gone back and forth over the years over everything from canvas prints to multiple albums to Printing on glass I happen happen to love. Bay photos. Performance extreme metal prints. I've actually got one outside. What kind of products are are consumers US getting more excited about it and any trends? You're seeing there. I do have to say that's another expectation or guidance since that I give them because I want their priority to be the album to tell the whole story so I focus on that first one. I'm doing my cell sessions Russians when I'm doing my album. Designs is really making that the the primary product and with that actually and the way that I've been doing in person sales I've actually really tripled the size of the album. Usually or more or quadruple. The that comes with a package most of my collections have a thirty page age. Albumin it and the average size album has been about eighty ninety pages this year and last and my biggest album was one hundred thirty four page a two volume. That's fantastic. Yeah so that's been huge and I I mean I'd like to Brag on me but I think it's a combination between how how I'm selling it to them making it easy making it fine and also them the the culture and that age of my typical client understanding that digital photos are all well and good and they get them but they never looked through their phone pictures ever and they're certainly not going to do with their wedding pictures and by the time their kids come around and you know they they won't even be a USB to plug in that at Basra give them so how to really pass down that legacy is printed tangible product. So that that's what I the one. That's what's trending with me. The other interesting thing is most of my clients are North Jersey or Manhattan or Brooklyn and they don't have wall space so as much as I would like to seldom at twenty four thirty six canvas or even a sixteen by twenty four glass which way do so few of most of them end up taking that in the package cutting in half or giving it to their parents or something because they simply do not have wall space in the small areas that they live in. Oh that's a true testament to really knowing your client and not putting doing them in a box but really understanding what they need and how you can best serve them for sure and mistake of you know trying to be like no but why don't you WanNa Wolpert. Why won't you want to and then I realize Mike? Oh my gosh like they really don't have a place to put it so it would be crazy Z.. Burden to have this massive thing in a studio apartment in Manhattan well kind of going on that same trend just to Cher with our listeners. Brian Capela Richie. A few years ago did a blog post and one of the things he does when he works a bridal fair is he'll hand the bride a floppy disk and say hey take these home and take a look at my images to see my work. And they'll look at him like he's from outer space and then he makes the point about the importance of the album. Because you don't know what's going to happen to those images and like you you said they don't look at images on their on their phone very often. You don't want that lost. That album really is what I said in the beginning it's that first. Family heirloom some of a brand new family central. That's hysterical. That is great tactic. I mean I thought it was great. We actually I hi is added to that by the way I took one of these sappy frames that says I don't know friends forever love or something and I took out the picture of me and Sheila in it. I just had a jump trump Dr labs and I've actually given that the photographers. Anybody that wants it as welcome to it and can use it but it also makes the point about the importance importance of your album and storytelling and at an actual print as opposed to stuff stashed away on DVD's and jump drives and whatever never future brings. Yeah absolutely Vanessa. I'm curious about the rule of relationship building with your business because it takes a heck of a lot of trust for a bride to trust you with her wedding day to show up and know that you you understand The background and history in the vibe between her and the groom and and so curious do you have any tips. As far as relationship the building with the bride and the family or even with other vendors related to the whole wedding day. That is exactly my the marketing plan of late. Because relationship building is is the only thing that is going to surpass any cultural change change any new social media thing that comes out medium or any any change in the marketplace is just relationships and then really hard to maintain contain. Whether it's with your client actually find the clients easier to maintain and then maintaining them with all the different vendors. So that's something that I've been working on with with my clients. It's a little bit more systematic so I make sure that I send out emails to them every month six months before the wedding just giving them tips and tricks. I send out gifts to them three times over the course of our relationship together which is one of my favorite things to do. It's also nice to have them and to have something tangible so then they can post it on social media and then it's kind of getting the best of both worlds and in the marketing side and then my vendor relationships. That's something I'm working on really really hard lately. I've been slacking off a little bit. It's it's very difficult to maintain two fulltime businesses between the education and the weddings. I always find when I'm really succeeding in one. The other one is suffering a little bit so the vendor relationships were what was suffering for me in two thousand nineteen looking to better in two thousand twenty so with them I put together an excel spreadsheet of all the different vendors that I'm familiar with and no I mail them all out L. Studio magazines. That actually don't go to clients. They just go to the vendors basically asked one hundred people out to coffee or lunch and bending a lot of my time you know going and fulfilling those lunch dates which you know is one this week. There's one last week sometimes. I stack them and I eat a lunch that day. Go ahead coffee that day. That being said I don't want to. I'm not going to be the best vendor for everyone but I've made made it a point to search for the relationships that have really wanted to spend more time with so. This was almost like my my overhaul of all vendors that are really know and I've worked with and then I'll tell me with all the ones that are kind enough to take me up and you know respond to my offer and those are the relationships. I'm going to work on those vendors that you know I'll send albums is two or I'll send you know brochure. Cards of their pictures and or their product with my pictures and both our logos on it. So that's what I'm trying to do as far as the vendors right now anyway it always changes always gotta do something new. It says a great way to be able to build your business. I know Bob. Bob Davis and dawn on do something similar with send images to a vendor and it's just called with our blessing we're vendors just don't have an opportunity often to see the results at least the the owner of the company doesn't and there's a crew there whether it's the caterer or the decorator or the florist and being able to get those images. It's a great way to be able to build a stronger business I've I've a question for you. That's going to step completely away from everything we've talked about one one of the things that you're known for and you did a great guest post on. Seo You a few years back. What are some of the secrets that you share the not really secrets? What are some of the tips? You'd give photographers when they've got to pose a large group and get it done quickly and I don't want to go into the whole process but it's almost a trademark for you. I'm trying to remember was it. Was it a dozen groomsmen one. That we're unthinking GAV my biggest one I had nineteen groomsmen are Dick Thankfully there weren't also nineteen bridesmaids there. Were I think nine of them though and yes it is a trademark. It's something I teach. It's I call it speed posing you can go to speed posing dot com to see about how are we do for groups and families and individuals and couples but as far as groups goes. Yeah I have I just have a system where it it flows so take a broader party ready for example. I put all of the women in. I'm going to take a picture of all the bridesmaids and I put them all in and line them up according to height and photograph them and then I walk along that line and photograph everyone of their headshots while they're all standing there so I'm the only one moving. That's the biggest key is always faster than move yourself into move other people so we do that photograph them and then I have everyone take a step away from the bride and then a tell the groomsmen go stand next to the person that you walk down with or will walk down. I'll with because because the bride has already painstakingly matched everyone up. According to height so as long as I arranged the bridesmaids who traditionally listen a little better than the groomsmen. I've arrange them. I according to height I just make them step out and fill them in with Grimsson than I take all the pictures of the all the groomsmen have moving together and they're already ready perfectly. Post made according to height. So that's my my method for quickly posing a bridal party doesn't matter how big it works pretty much every time. It's definitely your process that offers need to practice because you cannot take everybody's every bright has a horror story and usually it's an urban myth. It'd probably didn't happen to them. But they they heard from somebody who heard from somebody and the usual line we used to hear was well. I had a friend that Mr Hall reception because it took so long to do. The Bridal Party and and ninety nine percent of those stories aren't true but way back when somebody really did get burned and that's one of those big fears one hundred percent. Whatever it it's like herding cats at a wedding where everybody kind of scattered in it can be so so hectic and so I I love the tips that you shared Vanessa? It's just it's not reading. It's hurting drunk. Cow Even even better even better while this has been awesome. You know I do. I can't help but ask one of our favorite questions. As has we wrap up this interview and even though you've already given a ton of amazing tips for our listeners. Do you have any advice any advice that perhaps you didn't touch on That you would give for photographers. Who are just starting out the best advice I can give if you're just starting out? Don't think that you you are an island and you have to start a business and get going one of the biggest advantages that I had in. My photography career was working four that other photographer for five years and making mistakes on his dime and his business and that part of the process has been cut out in more recent years when it comes to building photography career a lot of photographers. Now our okay. I want to be a photographer. Let me start my business. Start taking pictures. So that's fine. If you do that but in the meantime go assist for as many different photographers as you can for free. If you have to just go so that you can stand there and watch somebody else do the job that you wanNA. Do you like some things that they do. You'll won't like some other things but they'll help you. You develop your style in. You'll learn a ton from them and as many different ones you can because we all have different styles so it's not going to be the same assisting for me as it would be for. Bob Davis it's going to be completely different. We have different styles we get to the same happy result with a happy client with happy wedding photos. But but how we get there is very different and then shoot for second shoot for as many different photographers as you can. Just gain all of that knowledge that you'll be able to apply to your own business and photography later you know Jerry. Jones made a comment in a workshop years ago that the way photographers come into the businesses. All wrong that you get your camera and you're out there and you're suddenly you have to run your business and become an artist and he said truthfully the way everybody should start is to shoot and assist for two years get to know the craft and then once you had your the craft down and understood every a button and all the bells and whistles of your camera and the technology and exposure and composition. Now you've got to the point where now you can repay attention and run a business and you just hit it now. That that experience that you got over those five years was invaluable. Plus in your case now where it's fifty fifty fifty teaching versus Shooting that's fantastic with a degree in education. Now I understand a big part of the secret of Y. Your classes are. You're so good just before we wrap it up. All I WANNA do is ask one final question. Because I know you've got a lot going on on. I know that I mentioned imaging. USA A couple times. Anything new coming up you can share with us. It's exciting yes. Well today is is Friday when everyone is listening to this so you may or may not have heard that Canon just launched a one the X.. Mark Three on the six. And you can go to my youtube is YouTube dot com forward slash Vanessa joy and check out the video that I made about that camera. They let me borrow it. I was able to shoot a real job with it as well as a style. Shoot and really get hands on experience that I'm not sure anyone's really had So it's a really fun video And then the other exciting thing is I wrote a book and it is coming out in February. So it's on preorder right now on Amazon but by WPI time which also be speaking at it will be ready printed done. I can't wait to hold it myself. I think I'm excited than anyone else. Congratulations wow that's wonderful. Yeah just a little busy. Yeah just a few things going on and Vanessa working folks check out your work online. You can find me At Vanessa Joy Dot Com. I typically hang out on instagram. You WANNA find social media outlet to find me on and I'm just at Vanessa Joy. They're perfect and skip as usual. Where can folks find you online and as usual? It's always the same answer. I'm everything I write is. It skipped going university. VERSITY DOT COM. You'll also find me over on Doing some things and posting for Pod as they'll find you to Chamara end on honest you and I'm skip going on twitter. I'm skip going on facebook and Shamir and I always remind everybody that that we're always interested in your input and feedback and who you'd like to have as a guest so right to us are. My email is skip at m. e. five hundred dot com and Chamara. Where do they you go to find you? Folks can send me an email at Shamir at photo. FOCUS DOT com. That's my first name. C. H. A. M. I R. A.. At Photo Focus Dot Com and Dan skip mentioned. Yes send us your feedback your questions your ideas. We love getting all of that stuff because it absolutely drives how we move forward with this show and with that said Vanessa thank you again. This went by too quickly too fast. This was amazing. My pleasure and you shared some great. It was just great advice and great tips content. Good glad to hear it and we want to thank our listeners. Joining us as well. Please tell your friends about the child. CAST ask especially if they want to improve their photography business and make twenty twenty better than ever. We look forward to having you with us next time on mind. Mind your own business brought to you by Focus and skip cone university.
Trump Banks on His Steadfast Supporters
"Support for what's news comes from facebook. If you've got questions about voting by mail in your state, you'll find up-to-date answers on facebook voting information center for official information from election authorities visit facebook, dot com slash voting Info Centre. President trump's greatest margin of victory in two thousand sixteen was in Buchanan County Virginia, we'll check in on whether he's maintaining his base there this time around the reason to go to county to think about Mechanic County is this is the sort of place where he needs to. Duplicate his margin from two thousand sixteen if not increase it and a slew of earnings reports from technology to pharmaceuticals lost one small step for life on the moon. It's Tuesday October twenty seventh I'm Anne. Marie for totally for the Wall Street Journal here's what's News. Let's dive into earnings. Microsoft sales rose twelve percent in the latest quarter fueled in large part by demand for cloud computing services and video games during the pandemic pharmaceutical companies. Eli Lilly and Pfizer reported lower than expected earnings as they pumped resources into covid nineteen research and big manufacturers including three M and caterpillar posted lower sales as the pandemic continues to drag on global economic activity but the pandemic drove demand for personal protective products like masks and cleaning supplies. We report exclusively that the Justice Department has antitrust concerns about visas more than five dollar deal to by FINTECH company plaid according to people familiar with the matter the DOJ elected to decide soon whether it'll sue to block visas purchase. The DOJ has recently placed new emphasis on enforcement in the financial sector. Its top antitrust official said this summer that the DOJ would take a fresh look at how new technology is changing competition in the industry. Amazon plans to continue its hiring spree into the holiday season. The ECOMMERCE giant says it will hire one hundred thousand seasonal workers in the US and Canada to help pack and deliver items heading into Thanksgiving and Christmas to keep up with an expected surge in online orders. Amazon is one of the few companies that's continued hiring during the pandemic last month. It said it would add one hundred, thousand full and part-time warehouse workers also in the US and Canada. Philadelphia is bracing for another night of civil unrest protests and looting broke out last night sparked by a video showing police fatally shooting a black man Walter Wallace who was holding a knife city officials have requested assistance from law enforcement and surrounding counties, and from the state authorities say ninety one people were arrested overnight in connection with looting police say thirty officers suffered injuries from thrown bricks and other projectiles Philadelphia's district attorney and the police department are investigating Wallace's death. And an influential US health panel. Now says people as young as forty five should get screened for Colon and rectal cancer. The US preventative services task force recommends lowering the starting age from fifty has colorectal cancer rates are rising in younger adults. It's the fourth most common cancer and the second leading cause of cancer related death in the US for men and women combined according to the. National. Cancer. Institute. Coming up after the break, we visit the heart of trump country. Up Work is the world's largest remote talent platform devs, designers, writers, strategists, you name it find higher pay all in one place whatever skills your scope demands upward is how need to find coders outside your area code and Seo specialist for six weeks or UI designer through December pros available short or long-term one time or as often as you need them and they're proven rated and reviewed when you need in demand talent on demand up work is how Virginia's Buchanan County gave President trump his biggest margin of victory in the two thousand sixteen presidential election nearly eighty percent voted for him compared to just over eighteen percent for Hillary Clinton. President trump has done little to expand his political base since then and to secure victory this time around, he'll need to maintain his base in working class comedies like the Canon. So how is support in Buchanan holding up this time around and what can you tell us about trump's base across the country? We turn now to our senior editor Bob Davis Hi Bob thanks for being here. Sure. Thanks for inviting me. So, tell us a little bit more about the canons economy which has relied heavily on coal mining has that changed during the pandemic what's going on there now? Will you know you voted Cannon County and you can read about the pandemic and people will tell you how it's affected them. But you don't honestly see it. It is a place where few people wear masks where people are back in their offices not in general not observing social distancing and it is a place where the pandemic has moved through the county just as it has in other places. So what? You see for the pandemic is, for instance, the high school which was went virtual in the spring they tried a mixture of in-person and virtual mostly in person for the full the issue there one reason an additional reason there to go in person compared to other places is you know it's it's a place that's full of mountains and valleys, and the the Internet reception's not very good in a lot of places so. That would argue to have kids come back and go to school in person. Well, when I was there, it happened that three kids tested positive and they wound up going off virtual. School. Which of course had the usual effect on parents who have to take care of the kids so I mean there's that and then the economy. The economy's slowing. As again as you would see around the country, the coal mines shut or slowed. During the spring, but they're back shopping is down retail sales are down and it's a place where the unemployment rate you know went up to eleven percent. It's now the most recent is around nine percent. So even a place that's used to having a weak economy. In What is clearly recession? President trump is still expected to win the county in this election, but a lot has changed for many of his supporters there're especially during the pandemic. Bob, can you tell us more about what you heard from them and how they're thinking about voting this time around sure I mean they are still overwhelmingly in favor of president trump overwhelmingly but. Then you have to define what is overwhelmingly mean in two thousand sixteen. He got eighty percent of the vote in the general election. So will he get eighty percent of the vote? Will he get seventy percent of the vote will as many people show up to vote for him? These are all questions that are uncertain at this point, the answers to which. Are, uncertain as I say the people there in general are still quite supportive but even his supporters wonder if other supporters are basically suffering from what you might call trump fatigue, the four years of controversy the pandemic which it's Cannon County as much as it hits, you know anywhere else you know all the controversies and so even his supporters wonder whether they'll get. As larger turn out, it doesn't mean necessarily vote for Joe Biden mean that they don't show up to vote another issue is that it's a place with the weak economy as I said and the number and people are leaving people the population there is being greatly reduced over the past twenty thirty years and even from two thousand, sixteen to two, thousand twenty, there are fewer people in the county. So there are fewer potential voters for the president. Did you talk to any voters who did vote for trump in two thousand sixteen and are now considering voting for? Biden. Yes. I spoke particularly to a couple. Francis and Rayburn. Minton who run a clinic in Grundy it's tucked away in a food city supermarket and they as are many people in that area they were Democrats. This is an area that until Brock Obama actually voted democratic in the presidential election like a Lotta places in West Virginia and in South West Virginia, and then they had voted for president trump largely. Because of his promises about the coal economy bring back know the local economy to stronger state and they now are voting against him because they are upset at the way they feel he is mismanaged the response to cove it. I mean they see it up front you know they do testing for covid and the they have arguments with patients, potential patients, potential customers who WANNA test but we're we're a mask and a attributed a lot of the resistance to wear masks to the president's often disdainful attitude toward mass square. So why Buchanan what can you tell us more broadly about the US during this election, we went to county county not to get a sense of the United, states but to get a sense of the strongest trump supporters you the president hasn't. During the campaign look to expand his base that hasn't been a strategy, his strategy has been to turn out. His base even more and more and the reason to go to Canada cattier to think about Buchanan County is this is the sort of place where he needs to. Duplicate his margin from two thousand sixteen if not increase it and again, I mean, this is a place where he will win big. But but how big and if he doesn't win at least eighty percent and doesn't get at least as many people showing up as in two thousand sixteen, you know that's that's a sign of weakness on the other hand if he manages to do it, that would be sign of strength and from what you can tell from his supporters is that they're worried that they won't be able to match what they did in two thousand sixteen. That's Wall Street. Journal. Senior editor Bob Davis Bob Thank you so much for being here today cure. Thank you. Mood. And finally, NASA scientists have detected evidence of water on the Sunlit side of the moon. Now, we're not talking lakes or rivers just molecules locked grains of lunar soil scientists already knew there was frozen water in the cold dark craters at the Lunar Poles, but our science reporter Robert Lee hosts says, this new discovery gets us one step closer to creating self sustaining colonies on the moon. NASA is planning to send the first woman and next men to the moon by twenty twenty four. And his thing stand they'll have to bring their own water supply with them to the moon at a very expensive cost, not just in dollars, but in terms of poundage that will have to be carried. Up, the gravity well from the surface of earth. Damone. So if there is a usable readily accessible supply of water as this new discovery suggests, then there is the possibility that astronauts can drink the water already on the moon and they could use it to grow food and to replenish their fuel tanks. Scientists. Believe there's about the equivalent of a twelve ounce bottle of water per cubic meter of lunar soil. Just for context the Sahara desert has about one hundred times more water than that. And that's what's news for this Tuesday afternoon. We'll be back tomorrow morning if you like our show please rate and review us, you get your podcasts. I'm emery for totally for the Wall Street Journal thanks for. Listening.
President Biden Expected to Sign 'Buy American' Order
"The president biden is working on his plan to strengthen the american economy trade is part of the equation and people are very skeptical administration after administration after administration talks about a worker center trade policy. We'll talk to a senior journal editor in washington about the possible challenges. Plus some of the biggest names in tech are said to report their results as we enter a busy week of earnings so forecasting earnings of the moment is a little bit like trying to play pinning. Its halon donkey and these days. Prenups for millennials aren't just about money. It's monday january twenty fifth. I'm mark stewart with the wall street journal. And this is what's news. President biden is expected to sign an executive order today. With a focus on bein. American made products. The new by american policies will make it tougher for federal agencies to purchase imports. All with the goal of strengthening domestic manufacturing in addition small and mid sized businesses will have better access to information for government contracts to a senior administration official a goal is to strengthen the supply chain after the pandemic revealed weakness in distribution of supplies and equipment. Also today president biden plans to ban most non. us citizens from entering the country. If they've recently been to south africa the president is also expected to restore ban on travel into the us from europe. The uk and brazil reversing an effort by former president donald trump to lift those restrictions in his closing days in office. China overtook the us as the world's top destination for new foreign direct investment last year. This is according to new data released by the un. The shift comes as the pandemic amplifies an eastward shift in the global economy china. You strict lockdown measures early on and cemented its strengthen manufacturing while china captured more new investment the total stock of foreign investment in the. Us remains much. Larger new figures revealed the biggest spenders on lobbying in washington last year. According to a wall street journal analysis of the most recent disclosures facebook paid out nearly twenty million dollars. Compared to around eighteen million for amazon apple declared six point seven million and google's parent alphabet spent seven point five million apple and google declined to comment while facebook and amazon defended the spending saying they will continue to make their voices heard on key policy issues mexican president andres manuel lopez obrador said that. He tested positive for covid. Nineteen the sixty seven year old said. He was receiving medical treatment for what he called. Mild symptoms and concern about the corona virus has forced the world economic forum's annual gathering in davos to be held. Virtually the conference which begins today traditionally brings business leaders and dignitaries to the swiss mountains chinese president xi paying and german chancellor. Angela merkel are among the world leaders expected to address the forum. This week a big week ahead for tech companies and their quarterly results among the many companies reporting earnings microsoft apple and tesla. Let's talk about the expectations with markets columnist. Mike byrd high there. mike. Good morning. Monk mike in the past ten companies have done well. Many of us are working from home. Some children are in remote learning but is the momentum dwindling absolutely. I mean obviously a lot of the big rally last especially in the middle of the tech companies were really really leading. That were way out ahead of the broader market dragging the over s and p five hundred higher. That's not really the case anymore. If you look at a company microsoft it's still up in the last couple of months but it's actually lagging the s. and p. five hundred apple leading the s. and p. five hundred slightly but dragging against say small-cap stocks which are roaring ahead. So these are not really the company's anymore deleting the market. They've had a really good run. But i think investors will be looking a little bit more in the future that berry very highly valued against earnings people will be paying a little bit more attention to what actually comes out in of results. Companies publish mike. We are still in the midst of a pandemic to put this in perspective. Earnings overall still have been weaker so far this year yep so full casting earnings at the moment is a little bit like trying to play pinning. Its halo on a donkey. You know. it's it's difficult when you don't know when the pandemic will ends and know when the earnings will recover for a lot of sexes. It's just impossible to say these analyst on public health experts. They don't know so at the moment. You earnings on track full about five percent year over year for the final quarter of twenty twenty in some ways. That's probably less than you might have expected when you think about what life was like in the final three months of twenty twenty nineteen. This is the final three months at twenty twenty dasa fellow small full given the change that but as i say people will be paying a little bit more attention as the public health situation improves to see which of these companies damaged from the pandemic animal lonesome way and which of them sort of on ice waiting for things to get back to normal. Mike byrd i appreciate it. Have a good week. Thanks very much more just ahead. The new administration's approach toward trade. We're not just talking about goods. Were also looking at the service sector more. After a very quick break we've been following the biden administration's moves as it shapes economic policy. Today we're gonna focus on trade including the relationship with china senior editor. Bob davis has been looking into this and he joins me now. Good morning to you bob morning. Nice to join you bob. Your reporting the new administration is taking a very different approach toward international trade. What are the center of their strategy. Well they're looking to make a big break in the past a big goal of. Us trade policy has been to open markets for service companies like in financial services also some high tech companies and areas like pharmaceuticals the criticism. The new team has is that these particular sectors pharmaceuticals financial services. Don't produce jobs directly in the us. So if jp morgan opens a branch in china has more ability to operate in china. That's great for workers that they hire in china. It makes a big difference but it doesn't directly lead to more hiring in the us and that's what the new team with by team says they wanna focus on any indication as to how the policies with china in particular will be shaped. Well the goal. I mean if they do what they say they're gonna do. The goal would be no longer to push for goldman sachs j. p. morgan to give them greater sway in the chinese financial system. It would be much more focused on traditional exports from companies that produce in factories in the united states with pharmaceuticals for instance. You know there's been a lot of effort to open up. Markets for for years drugmakers but much of the drugs are actually produced in low tax countries like ireland and so that's another reason to de emphasize pharmaceuticals according to the new team. So that's the administration's view but there are so many other interests at play when it comes to trade. What role do industry in congress have here. Yeah i mean. Among trade veterans this notion and people are very skeptical administration after administration after administration talks about a worker centered trade policy but you know the financial services industry just to take one is just enormously powerful and huge contributor to the biden campaign and a huge contributor to many many lawmakers and congress plays a very large role in setting the direction of us trade policy and so there would be a lot of pushback from the industry in from their allies on the hill enormous. Pushback and i want to ask about the different views of trade. Even within the administration in particular the treasury department and treasury secretary nominee janet yellen treasury is a is a funny institution. It has its own worldview. Whoever the treasury secretary is a treasury looks at the global financial system that is their trade mission when it comes to trade. The goal of the treasury is to liberalize financial markets around the world and to increase the influence of american financial corporations. It's not only that they're captive to wall street. I mean there's certainly part of that. But also there's a view that american capitalism you know as a force for good is a force for greater interchange between peoples and greater ease of doing business and so you know whatever janet yellen personally thinks. There is a view within that building. That what they ought to do is know the a salesman basically for the american financial establishment and finally bob a timetable for all of this. Is this going to take some time to implement or are there moves. That could be quite immediate that we could see. I think this plays out over a fairly long period of time. Probably the first year. I think president biden has made very clear that he does not wanna make trade policy his top priority. One of his top priorities sin enormously divisive issue within the democratic party. He has so many other priorities that he's looking at. I mean internationally. Climate change the global economy. And again you know. Traders a very divisive issue. I think that he won't be able to escape. It and particularly with china. China just is always there and always presents challenges. So i think we'll see it playing out maybe on a faster pace than the president would like it but still not something that we should expect to see in the first couple of months. certainly senior editor. Bob davis bob. Great to have you here. Thank you. And finally millennials are often known to go against tradition and that seems to be true even when it comes to prenuptial agreements today. Younger adults have all income levels. Are drafting prenups to address new economic and social issues including rising student debt. Some millennials want to keep their finances separate and business like that could allow them to leave a marriage without many strings attached and some couples decide to delay having children. They're even putting rules in place when it comes to what to do with frozen embryos if they get divorced. Some attorneys are getting requests from younger clients to address social media to ensure that one spouse can't write nasty things about the other if they break up. That's what's news for monday. Thank you for starting the week with us. We'll have a new show tonight until then stay up to date with wsj.com and the journal lab. I'm mark stewart with the wall street journal. Thanks for listening.
Big Chains Get Into Small-Business Loan Program
"I'm Jack how hosted the new baron streetwise podcast on business and investing this week. I focus on Disney and how the pandemic might change theme parks movies and television. Here's Disney executive chairman. Bob Eiger just as we now do bag checks for everybody that goes into our parks. It could be an at some point. We had a component of that takes people's temperatures beyond the pandemic on this week's Barron streetwise. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. You might not think of McDonald's and Marriott as small businesses but they're still eligible for the coronavirus small business loan program. You know the argument of the big restaurant chains. The big company owned restaurant chains. Is there like you know the corner diner? They have employees in locations and those employees will get laid off the counter. Argument is these are big companies with lots of revenue plus answers to some common questions about face masks. Who NEEDS THEM? How well they work and more cup false sense of security just if you have a masters. It's Monday April sixth. I'm Ameri for totally for the Wall Street Journal. Here's what's News British Prime Minister Boris. Johnson's condition has worsened and he's been moved into the intensive care unit at a London. Hospital Johnson was diagnosed with cove nineteen and put into isolation ten days ago but he's been struggling to recover and was admitted to the hospital on Sunday and official said Johnson remained conscious and the move to the. Icu was a precautionary step. Johnson has asked Foreign Secretary Dominic Robb to act as a deputy for him elsewhere. In Europe. Strict containment measures appear to be helping slow the spread of the disease. Italy and Spain are each reporting fewer confirmed cases and deaths here in the US. The death toll from the corona virus has now surpassed. Ten thousand officials are predicting that this week will be America's most difficult with the number of infections in some of the worst hit cities including New York Detroit and New Orleans expected to peak in the coming days. New York governor. Andrew Cuomo says the number of daily deaths has been effectively flat in the state for the past two days suggesting that social distancing measures are working. But cuomo said it's possible the state's crisis could be plateauing at a high level. That's still too difficult for the state's healthcare system to manage. This is an enemy that we have underestimated from day one and we have paid the price dearly. Non Essential businesses and schools in New York will remain closed at least through April twenty ninth despite the US entering what could be its toughest week. Us stocks rallied on Monday. As investors grew optimistic that the pandemic could be contained sooner rather than later. The major indexes all gained more than seven percent. The Dow rose more than sixteen hundred points. Though it's still down more than twenty percent for the year all thirty stocks in the index climbed as did all eleven sectors in the S. and P. Five hundred markets reporter. A KANATANI has more lot of investors. Believe that we are in the midst of deep economic downturn. That's going to be. I'm quite painful for for a lot of people so you know why. Why the big moves well. Traders liked to remind people that it's really normal to see big moves to both the downside and the upside during these types of periods of we saw many of the stock market's biggest moves Before this period actually during the two thousand eight financial crisis so it's quite normal to see this kind of trading action especially when people are at their most nervous and it's important to remember it doesn't necessarily reflect investors fundamental expectations for the economy which still look quite pessimistic at the moment and one more note. Governor Tony Verse has ordered a delay to the state's primary election until June citing public safety concerns state. Republican leaders had been pushing him to move ahead with tomorrow's primary in spite of the pandemic and say they'll challenge the decision social distancing slows the spread of corona virus. So we should all stay home to lower the risk for everyone more INFO at Corona Virus Dot Gov. Let's all do our part because we're all Hashtag alone together. Brought to you by the Ad Council. A big part of the two trillion dollar federal stimulus package is a three hundred fifty billion dollar loan program for small businesses and they began applying last Friday. The program is aimed at businesses with fewer than five hundred employees but the federal government has offered an exemption for restaurant and hotel chains regardless of how many people they employ joining me now to explain is Wall Street Journal senior editor. Bob Davis so bob. Big Restaurants and hotel chains fought to be eligible for the small business loan program. How did that come about? Tell us what happened there in Washington. Whether it was lobbying from the restaurant industry the hotel industry the franchisees industry they worked through a number of lawmakers who are themselves. Mcdonald's Franchisees or the families. Are you know the thinking? Was that the restaurant and hotel. Industry were decimated by this virus and needed a special response. I mean that was the argument that it went over well on hell when people think of big restaurant chains or big hotel chains. I think they may assume these are not the intended recipients of a small business loan program but as you mentioned many of these companies operate on a franchise model. We actually spoke with John. La- Freda who owns ninety Dennis Franchises in seven states. She's hopeful loans will help but she's also not sure how long they'll be able to carry her business they don't know yet how long it will take until we get our funding probably around thirty days. So that's a long time to hang on with no business when you've already been shut down two weeks or so and let me tell you this before we were actually shutdown sales. Were already going south. Just because of the media long before we shut down sales were trending downward Bubbas this similar to what you heard from restaurant owner small business owners. Yes very similar. The loan program does provide for covering your payroll for two months and some renton mortgage. I mean that's that's all it. Does I think when they put together. The bill initially thought was two months with get you pretty much through the pandemic. Now it's not clear that it will also I mean it's great that Employees will be paid but it doesn't really assure the viability of the small business afterwards. What about large restaurant. Owners hotel chains that aren't franchise based what's their argument for meeting relief from the federal government during this time because Some people would argue that this is not the intended recipient that is really meant for owners of small businesses. You can't rely on corporate money or reserves to make ends meet right. I mean you know the argument of the big restaurant chains. The big company owned restaurant chains. They are like you know the corner diner. They have Employees in locations and those employees will get laid off a counter. Argument is these are big companies with lots of revenue. Presumably you know cash reserves in you know not every not every small business loan or not small business loans often go to big companies that there are federal programs for big companies and small businesses are a particularly hard hit Part of the economy. What about for hotel chains? Do they make a similar argument there? Yeah it's entirely the same argument you know anything of Marietta to think of a big company. It's generally franchised out too so a lot of the hotel companies that you think about our individual franchisees and You know they have a number of locations and clearly. The hotel industry is got walloped again. The the issue is not for these smaller companies. That have a few Franchises but for the larger one well what about a company owned hotel chain where they've made millions of dollars last year and the year before and the year before that will how come they don't have enough cash reserves to carry their own employees through a couple of months down business? Bob There's been a lot of talk about when things will go back to normal or new normal and what that might look like again. I WANNA play a clip from dawn. Who Wonders if consumer habits will then change having been through nine eleven and the financial crisis of two thousand eight. There's trends that happened so when people lose money in the stock market or win you lose part of your retirement account people become afraid to spend they feel that. Oh man we have to cut back. We just lost. You know half of what we'd saved for our future and so they scaled down. They're still GONNA go out to eat. But can they go somewhere where they don't have to leave a twenty percent tip Does the Denny's user go to McDonald's you know what what practices and habits start changing and they do change? What did you hear from small business owners about what happens once we reach the recovery stage from this pandemic when we come down from the apex? Think franchisees. The company's restaurants hotels her are in a panic right. I mean it. It is yeah we'll be done with pandemic but what is being done with. The pandemic mean what happens to comes back you know. Why would people who are? Who HAVE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING THEIR JOB. Why would they spend money going out to eat going on vacations? It's going to be a you know a difficult bills back to get to. Whatever normal is is way different than nine eleven which was a kind of momentary or several week or month paddock. That was largely in couple of you know big metropolitan areas. I mean this is something that's swept across the entire. Globe and the recovery from it is very uncertain. We don't know how people's attitudes will change her with a go back to sort of normal. You know within a year or so. That's Wall Street Journal. Senior editor Bob Davis Bob. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you we'll have a full interview with Donald Friede talking about how. She's managing her businesses and helping her employees through this crisis in our next episode of the Wall Street. Journal's Secrets of wealthy women podcast. You can find that wherever you get your podcasts. For the past few weeks we've been asking you to call in with your questions about the corona virus one topic. You've brought up more than almost any other is face masks. So we asked a specialist Alexi Wagner an emergency physician at Stanford University so Alexi for an average person going out and about in the world. How effective is wearing a mask? So this is an important question. I would say the effectiveness of wearing masses is twofold there. You can't have a false sense of security that just if you have a master you're going to be protected in the same thing also goes for rubber gloves. You still need to be very careful about washing your hands washing your hands before touching your face washing your hands before and after touching them. Ask there've been stunned. Studies have shown that people who wear masks actually touch their face more often as they readjust and remember their viral particles being filtered. By whatever. Mask your wearing those particles that are now on the surface of the mask and so you have to be very careful about having extra hygiene instill washing your hands using alcohol. Sanitizer as needed. Would you say the same is true for the n ninety five masks that we see medical workers using so? This is a big area of debate right now about raising mass right now. There's huge variation across health systems. A lot of it has to do with what their supplies. So if they're very low supply they're going to be pushing the limits on what's acceptable and safe for the use of these mass. It is looking like there are some very early studies showing that you may be able to clean and sanitize and ninety five mass but remember these. Mass were not originally designed for use in Santa Cessation. They are disposable at. They were designed for one patient one interaction and then to be thrown out replace. What about people who might be caring for a person who has or who might have the corona virus in their own home so in those cases if you have a loved one who is known Kovin positive or symptoms suggestive of coverted we are recommending that that patient and caregivers do wear a mask if there's any interaction being very careful about Not Sharing any surfaces try to isolate at individual to their own bathroom and then be very vigilant about the hand hygiene alcohol based hand sanitizer. So the good news though is that this virus is a lipid based virus and so it's very susceptible to warm water so in alcohol sanitizers that are commercially available. That's Dr Alexi Wagner and emergency physician at Stanford University do you have questions about the corona virus? Call us at three one five nine nine. Two eight two nine eight and leave us a voicemail with your question that numbers also in our show description as we continue to cover the pandemic will be bringing on our reporters and experts to answer as many of your questions as we can. And that's what's news for this Monday afternoon. We'll be back tomorrow in both the morning and the afternoon if you like our show please rate and review US wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Marie for totally for the wall. Street Journal thanks for listening.
With America Locked Down, U.S. Companies Cash in on China's Reopening
"To protect his family from Disaster Steve used his camera phone. Dumb. Taking pictures of important documents Steve can always have them stored online learn more simple prep tips at ready dot Gov a message from FEMA and the Ad Council. Slumping sales, store closures, and lots of unknowns. It's been a rough few months for American retailers, but there's a bright spot and it's overseas globally a lot of companies are still struggling but here in China with maybe several months ahead of other countries including the US in terms of recovering from covid. We'll look at the American brands cashing in on China's reopening. Plus the S. and P., five hundred starts the trading day after a near record close what's Scott Traders? So excited, they seem to think that the economy will bounce back that everything will be better at some point the near future it's Thursday August, thirteenth, Mark Stewart with the Wall Street Journal, and this is what's news. The latest numbers show the daily tally of new US corona virus cases rising again to nearly fifty, six thousand. This follows a recent dip nationally were also seen an uptick in parts of the Rural Midwest places that had seen few cases. Those numbers drive another key metric were watching today jobless claims. New weekly unemployment filings are expected to fall slightly, but they'll remain high at around one point one million, the numbers are worth watching now that the six hundred dollars a week in supplemental benefits has expired. There's also the fear of a new wave of layoffs as pandemic loans meant to save jobs start to run up the Wall Street Journal's Erik Morales covers the Labor, department. The paycheck protection program funds for many businesses have run out and talked to workers who have been in some cases laid off for a second time when those funds expired, and that could be a factor. We seeing that's keeping claims that historically high levels. You know it could be that some of the workers that are filing for claims in recent weeks this may be their second. Some gives you even heard the third time where they've been called back and then let go again. As some of these funds expire also states introduced new restrictions or renewed restrictions. Just, ahead, jobless report is just one factor that could move markets. Today we'll look at what else is at play including politics coming up. Investors want to know if the markets rally can push further today US market sauce, strong rise yesterday this and p five hundred closed just short of the record at set before the corona virus slammed Wall Street markets reporter Caitlyn Ostrov looks at what's fueling this current round of optimism for traders. They seem to think that the economy will bounce back that everything will be better at some point in the near future, and so you see them finding that in hopes for a vaccine, there's still the expectation that there will be some passage some compromise to Republicans and Democrats in stimulus bill but those two factors could risk. You know being corrected within market expectations if all of a sudden either we don't get a vaccine quickly as people were hoping or if the talks between the Republicans and Democrats keep dragging out, and so we're seeing things continue to edge higher, but we're not quite certain whether it's sustainable. After a quick break with lockdown strangling sales at home. We'll look at how American. Companies are making up for it with sales in China. When the world is at a standstill facts, can move us forward facts help us make decisions and bring us together. Even as we're apart the Wall Street Journal House. The facts in these uncertain times get the latest on the corona virus outbreak with free coverage of the crisis and its impact on the economy politics culture and daily life. Find the clarity you need with America's most trusted news source visit wsj.com, and stay informed. Taiwan's president says she wants to begin talks with the US on a free trade deal. The move is part of a bigger effort to strengthen Taiwan's relationship with Washington. While resisting Beijing some of the trump administration have previously pushed for trade talks with Taiwan, as a way to pressure Beijing. Wall. Street Journal Senior Editor Bob Davis says a potential deal wouldn't be about economics I think a free trade deal between the US and Taiwan just talks a free trade agreement between the two is just another way in which the trump administration is looking to tweak China I mean China looks at Taiwan as a renegade province. It looks at it as a place that will someday become part of the mainland and. For for their point of view, this is a provocative action from the US point of view. It's a way to show it. It supports the Taiwanese government and its Democratic, development? The Office of the US Trade Representative didn't immediately respond to a request for comment on the latest speech by Taiwan's president. China's market is proving to be fertile ground for American businesses right now, many companies that are losing sales in the US because of pandemic shutdowns are finding that Chinese consumers are buying now that their country has largely emerged from lockdown the Wall Street Journal's Trevor Moss covers business. In China, he joins us now from Shanghai Trevor thanks for being here. So pleasure. Trevor Looking at the numbers, some very well known brands are having some big success overseas. What are you seeing? Well, globally, a lot of companies are still struggling but here in China may be several months ahead of other countries including the US in terms of recovering from covid. Consumption has picked up more strongly than a lot of analysts thought. It would some were saying we might see any growth till next year but actually consumption here is now growing Is Looking quite strong a lot of Brown's in the luxury segment in particular. You'll you'll be doing very well indeed luxury sales have have rebounded very strongly in China. Also, some. Clothing and sportswear and footwear brands that the sector of rule is still struggling a bit in China but but some of the the well-known US brands have have done very well sketches Nike they both both very strong second-quarter in China. Let's talk about some of those brands. These are names we would recognize where's the challenge what sectors are not having such an easy time. The one that's really still struggling a lot is restaurants and cafes people are still not going out and socializing and eating out the way they were part of that. Is it a lot of restaurants here? They cater to office workers at lunchtime and still many People working from home choosing not to come into the city every day. So we saw starbucks that numbers are still still off quite a McDonald's I. Think was was sounding quite pessimistic about how soon they would recover. So companies I that is still not where they were this last year. That's the one side of this still really down China has seen a bit of a rebound especially in consumer spending. How long do you think this will last or is this perhaps just a short term jolt while the the million dollar question is, will we see more outbreaks and will be more lockdowns? As things stand analysts are saying that the recovery is going to be quite robust that things are going to keep picking up through the next two quarters an then thousand twenty one we'll be very strong in China but of course, the big question is is not just ulaby more outbreaks in China but what will happen globally? So there are a lot of unknown quantities, but right now it does look like China is bouncing back in it's going to be sustainable and trevor. We've seen political tension between the United States and China but from a business economic standpoint, China's a market that is still very important for for us, and north. American retailers. While exactly what we see and I mean these companies that Q two results overall were pretty grim in many cases but for so many of them China was this bright spot. We do have these political tensions but so far that hasn't really spilled over into the commercial realm. American brands haven't faced any kind of boycott so far Chinese consumers still love American brands for the most part that's the big risk. These American companies face if tensions do keep worsening but for now, these companies still doing well in China and they they need China more than ever because China's web the growth is at the moment. Trevor. Moss. Reporting from Shanghai Trevor Great to have you on the podcast today. Thank you. and. Finally, the curtains remain down on Broadway. But while we wait for live theatre to return some shows are jumping from the stage to your screen. Goodbye. Without compromise a number from the musical Diana based on the life of the late princess the producers now say the show will stream on Netflix next year, its Broadway opening was delayed until next year because of the pandemic, it's part of a growing trend of Broadway shows running on digital platforms Disney plus is currently streaming Hamilton. And that's what's news for Thursday. We're back tonight with an updated episode if you like our show please rate and review US wherever you get your podcasts a mark Stewart with the Wall Street Journal thanks for listening.
Jerry Yang on China, Yahoo!, and Early-Stage Investing
"Hey everybody it's Eric Torbert co-founder partner Philips Global He's thrilled to see the fruits of his investments and we're really incredible how how long have you been at it we've been at for almost two years yeah story they don't answer that question so you David so I would say that I was texting with is David is the biggest procrastinator at procrastinating and so I think the Avenue Server and browser which unified as a protocol the Internet after Tim Burners Lee came up with the web protocol so so this is all really it was one of those one of those times where you had the server in every browser is conformed protocol can see it so so there was you know so but but it was usually a very geeky academic surf the web and we figured out you know what are crazy content that comes out every day and this and and categorized it and started making searchable and that's kind of how it got going was this guide to the IT probably wouldn't be speaking to you today and you came up with the the biggest website in the in the world and and and so he became this interactive directory where people say Hey I went down oh with requests and software to help with it but ultimately became this remember why but but I was a guy that was doing all the interfacing with people submitting Whbh even just typing it out was like crazy right so that was a server in any case you so he was from he's from Louisiana in an e claimed that he was call used rude and that kind of described us to a T. so sleeping bag or body fluids here there's nothing you know I mean take turns like twenty four seven year I was sleeping isn't GonNa work and so but the reality was also the span with going and so so we knew we had leave so so I guess it was kind of the best business under our noses the whole time but we're not around them you know so you had to pitch a lesser venture cow out of you guys are close so talk us through you pitched a bunch let's see I I think you know we have one of those old up and I remember playing one one time there were Lori and then there were few and I can't remember how many we started with her and I and it was it was it was vinod and so we were in DC meeting where they allow him CI and on the way back and and I think more at said look we'll we'll can't buy you but will invest in you at that and that was that was it and so so you raised money I should've preface this by saying I'm one of the look people you over me because I look into star Yahoo I'm very fortunate to have a lot of great entrepreneurs portfolio but David David File and Jerry Yang showed up in my office zero chance give them money extremely competitive environment and people probably don't remember but there were four or five other companies Oh there's no business model so so why the hell would you would have the largest website and it was it was growing like crazy right but part partly because we can't we felt like we we we were in such a Bob Davis went there yet but clearly they were all very well known take on founders. CEOS is the founder should said CEO's long as pretty standard practice to replace I don't know I think I think we've gone through waves right I mean this strong call the strong silent type but I and there are plenty of companies where our friends are replacing the founder with both could not work and I I do you have the right drive and passion that tends to deliver more success Tim Koogle was kind of a throwback he was not a you know pushed us and so I I would say that you know and and we went on the it I I suppose we were we were very lucky to have found management professional people with conceived notions and and you kill the spirit of the company Jeff Weiner and Dan Rosenzweig what do you think in the early days where you setting a culture or founders okay well I I think they make us look good so much free lunch and foosball tables and nine coal religion and I think all all strong founders and so I think culturally we we wanted this we would favor people who played better on the team rather than a sort of you were hoping would be our our competitive edge I think lots of for a little while probably a sleeping in a sleeping bag at the office some years later discussion with you allegedly debate you yourselves forty five billion in making process and how you thought about that moment in the agony and the pain that you that's right so there is a lot of you know Monday Monday Monday morning quarterbacking on on SCO with my board I think our responsibility was to figure out you can get a deal telling the employees that you know how do you have to stick around and things like that so it was convenient to say hey the founders Yang didn't WanNa do deal because you know it was difficult about getting through the Justice Department that I trust it was clear that they were not ready to go after because you know this is not deal if they ran into any trouble that was kind of weird the second one was steve about forty percent of so Alibaba's market cab now is almost four hundred billion that's something yeah I but but this is Japan Yahoo and Alibaba and so okay so maybe the Steve But but when when kind of April two thousand eight rolled around like there was no way they were GonNa go through an I trust period and there's sort of seeing the economy doing one of these things and so once they backed out I goes back into corners and you say what is convenient for them so now enjoying a resurgence of in the valley separate from Mazdas Mark Your own investment but that's it for valley firms and institutions to be cynical Masa but he has had the opportunity of participating in what he calls platform companies can take stakes in companies the future in assistive as most institutions are he can he can create tremendous at reasonable valuation at very reasonable value excellent in person before a deal gets done no matter who else on the team some people have skied in act better of all time Baba investment so give us the to to think back in the late nineties when you know which may not be true anymore unfortunately in our world but but to help drive their middle class coming up and allowing them to into into into the western and that in in looking back that president really opened Baffert court entrepreneurs because they wanted to time to go to China is a I think it was a fortune conference or something official but it was basically somebody award ministry that would be my tour guy because he spoke English take all we went to sightseeing all these places and of course he so he was he was very inquisitive obviously trying to build China like we had done in Japan which was very successful and so so on our our way out government basically nicely said Hey Holland Jerry you're the plight of all the Chinese people around the world so we we embarked on this strategy of trying to figure out how do we take what we have in China Yeah right obviously yeah the and biggest competitor in China in the commerce was this company called Talbot and we're like who the hell is behind you know on the way out on the retreat right trying to turn to leave our we found the guy you know and and by this point Masa had already invested so Masa and Jack had one condition where he says I want it came up with the five billion post and it was one one billion yeah well I mean it's interesting because as part of a billion dollar investment in volleyball which at that what other people crazy Jack and so can you imagine some angel investor that put money but but the lesson is obviously the right from five billion to four hundred billion was world you still on the board we should say still start some involvement in the business what is there to learn plenty of success stories here and so but the global entrepreneurship that put China tack on the mouth There's generations of entrepreneurs so the dock and pony was sort of generation one generation to generation one and three to two and Cetera they all want to kill each other right they all want uh of of entrepreneurs that think they can one up the intense I I will be Mike Moore running off at a few months ago saying Americans either you're not going to do the nine hundred sixteen right so I also work with which he always wants to start a meeting at eleven pm that's that's when he's he's free to me you know you you you you go to these really tight knit start up companies it's there's no there's not a it's not a clear divide between what is personal the meaning like your life is at work your social life when you invest in a company here in the states I would argue if you try to be Chinese at their game you probably not going to you better not more but we'll see if ten years that they keep working like that or you know I mean a lot of this is still a hey that many of you in the days when we are late Twenties Early Thirties we guy can nice guys and gals winning business it's true yeah hindered well I I would say became CEO Steve Jobs Call Me and says Jerry congratulations but you make a huge mistake Gamer so so how many do you have three Ah you know another mentor was was Chuck Schwab and Chuck calls and this is GonNa cat and But I would argue you know Steve even Larry Ellison in his ways very very I it's not it just doesn't compute so I think there is a bit of a because they're definitely can be nasty there from that generation of people where you know being whether I'm nicer not I just think about it as I just wanted to people like that as symmetry even though if you're in position power or well known nice but but I don't think of it as being nice I just think about this is more of a more of a balancing so you're now helping run on a cloud ventures
From the Bleachers #12: Burn the Ships!
"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. It just Bush I Welcome to from the bleachers. I'm your host as always shame as clancy coming to you from this wonderful victory Monday. I'm recording this on the fantastic but in green nation radio podcast network. Now GonNa say this once a probably more than once on this podcast want to say it right now how. `Bout Damn Eagles there is absolutely really positively nothing sweeter than washing. The Eagles beat the cowboys at home last week. In the podcast about how the eagles haven't had a big home win against the cowboys. And what feels like forever really. Maybe the last big emphatic home win against Dallas was the infamous two thousand eight forty four to six game. Now yesterday score wasn't quite forty four to six. But they were controlled the entire game. They lay the smackdown when they needed to Mile Sanders was absolutely electric and really showcase himself. As maybe dare I say the premier running back in the NFC east. I'm not ready to go that far yet but that dude is special. He is special with his hands. Whether it's out of the backfield as a receiver running the gut. It does not matter. That guy has juice now today. I'm recording this on Monday. December twenty third. It's festivus now now. If the eagles were to lose yesterday I would've went full on frank. Costanza airing of grievances mode with this challenging micro to the feats of strength Aaron Aaron Grievances. About wonderboy Howie Roseman and his terrible contracts in his terrible drafting. But I'll save that for another day. I'll save that for another year. Ziegler's one and with a win in the meadowlands Orlands a place. Eagles have had innumerable memorable games over the years. I showcased on last week. Special Edition Maryland New meadowlands anniversary podcasts. They take care of business in the meadowlands. They are going to the playoffs. They are going to host a home playoff game now. Just imagine just a few weeks ago telling you that the eagles will be hosting a home playoff game and January. It's within our grasp. It's possible micro. You're safer a week. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA lean into you. I'm not gonNA Freeman High Roseman. You picked up Greg word off the scrap heap. I don't know what took so long from the active roster. But he's here you're drafting Mile Sans Second round that hit. That was a big time John. Hit guys are safe. Happy festivus everyone. We're back may I do want to have a shoutout to special family from Springfield Illinois in the family and they're loyal listenership who are super duper. Ensue my juice above replacement step now after miles sanders performance performance yesterday It's with a heavy heart that I must admit that miles centers has leapfrogged our own Boston. Scott Bosco for NFL. Lead leader Andrews above replacement. Boston Scott still holding strong number two but your new jar leader in the entire NFL. Right now is Penn State's own Mile Sanders. What a game from a me at one? Hundred and fifty six yards from scrimmage. A touchdown probably should have had close to two hundred yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns if not for doing the Class Act. Brian Westbrook against Dallas. Move slide down letting the clock run out I would have ran up the score. Who Cares? Hit the over. I don't even over under was hit the over mess up the people's beds I don't care whoever has mile centers and fantasy football. They should have got that touch and they should those extra forty yards miles. I respect I respect Jason. Kelsey Tony to go down. It's the couch with its at home. NFC's is on the line. Rub it in their dumb faces. Run in the end zone throw that ball in the stands punt kick dumped. I don't care what the score I respected miles but respect the disrespect of scoring just a tad bit more. I'm sure everyone the teams happy that you did that. But from a fan a crazy fan deranged fan perspective I would have loved. It rubbed it in their dumb faces Jason Garrett a likely has coast coached his last game and Philadelphia as a member of Dallas Cowboys Organization. And I will say I will mystery some Garrett I will miss his dunk lapse. I will miss it stupid stupid face. I will miss his lack of Beckham. I will miss his cowardice. I will miss his general overall incompetence because whenever Jason Garretson when your team look across the sideline you see Jason note that means you have a pretty good chance to win a day I see Jason Garrett. That'd be pretty good day for men pretty good day for me by solid Jason Garrett. Stay on the opposite side sideline. He's probably gone. I don't know they're going to hire Jerry. Jones Make Stephen Jones his son the head coach. Do something crazy Jerry. Jerry think outside of the box for your Matt Rolls Don't look for the next young great offensive coordinator don't promote Callan more. Stick with the stick with yourself. Keep it in the family. Make your son head coach. That'll shock the football world. That'll show them. WHO's boss? Jerry take my advice. I know. You're listening Dallas Qatar. My Guy Dallas got her huge Dallas Oscar Fan Probably a rough week for him Dallas Week given that I think when he got drafted and one of his first press conference is back in two thousand eighteen. April may twenty eight seen a reporter. Joey said Hey. Douse some Fanta talking to be considered changing her name the Philadelphia and he was so caught off guard. I think he was so uncomfortable by. But just imagine you're going your whole life and you know my name's Dallas and that's what you're just saying. Hey I'm Dallas and then you get to a city where your first name is the most hated word and the entire tristate area good for him though nine career high nine catches a career high ninety one receiving yards Came a big especially when Zach Ertz had some time with some bruised ribs Zach bow came back. Finish the game for SPEC there for God called soft a couple a little time throughout his career so I respect you comeback. You took a huge huge hit tape. The ribs came back out there. Produced opened things up for Dallas opened things up for Greg Word Mile Centers Bosco OSCO. You're warriors act your super hero or Super Bowl champion. We appreciate you in Philadelphia. Thank you God. Has that touchdown. He's a menace in the red zone. Eager rendering thing that sucks about the Eagles from between the twentieth is what makes them great in the red zone all their God. They basically have like fifteen tight ends. You know inside out Jeffrey. Who's now departed pardon on? IRR Urge Scott. All those guys are big bodies. Big Bob Davis even now when you have those guys in the red zone. It's unstoppable and that's why the Eagles I think. Think now have the longest streak of scoring in the red zone not just touchdowns but scoring overall with you. Know something in the high twenties of straight possessions where they've scored in the red zone and has off Carson Wentz hats off to some creative play calling from Doug Peterson great game by Doug. Great Game I dug except for those two field goals. I'm always of Jelly knocks home. Those three hundred and fifty five yard or we're not having this conversation because the eagles are getting those points but always got. WHO's I'm team aggressive I want? WBZ grasses prices possible fourth and three fourth fourth and five between the forties. Go for. Doug you're often says Ronin Carson Wentz is doing everything in his world to bring the Eagles NFC championship he's gone. It doesn't matter WHO's out. There is working for him he could scramble around good moving outside speed option outside spring writes Brent left Carson. Had It all yesterday it had an all making plays. His legs had a couple of read options that he kept. I love that I love keeping it and he made a couple of guys missed picked up five six yard carry on just those plays they finish for what four carries twenty two twenty six yards or something like that does that every game it keeps it depends on us from these rolling out and the red zone. The fender linebacker accurate. There has to make a choice. Are they going to rushing on Wednesday. Because they're running. We're GONNA drop back in worried about mile. Senators Dow Scott Zakar. It's catching the ball in the flat. Versatility is naming the game option out his name of the Game Carson Wentz has it all yesterday nothing like a true true franchise quarterback true from choice quarterback baseball truly. It is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. Along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Restrung as we discuss all the ways the phillies of hurt us on our podcast hitting season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success yes and the dirty inning subscribed to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown full cast your avengers injures of college football. podcast says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is. It's all spoiled every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling. Too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college. Football every now. And then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable Ashton. Pants that coaches wear now. If you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP had a great day tailgating. Yesterday it was long over had a rough Christmas party on Saturday. Night bed fun. My Dad added bought this Cavalier's Pinata from my party city or some kind of not party city Some kind of party favor company on mind photo these firebaugh. Aw pocket shot shooters a bunch of candyman. I'd held up Eagles dog mask on and smack the crap out of a canny flew. There was all these kids tailgating around us in separate separate groups and they saw cannon you thought like thousands of dollars on the ground they ran. They were rolling on the ground and grabbing all these snicker bars twix milky ways Milky Way midnights. Whatever they're called nope they loved it and then their moms are coming over? Don't pick up the alcohol. Don't pick up the alcohol. Can I was obviously the one scrimmaging through all this nonsense trying to grab the fireball shooters theaters open up. Crushed it for the camera had a nice time Things hoagies shout. The things hoagies dropped off some phenomenal sandwiches had the county which is a a cold sandwich. Wanted cold sandwiches have ever had really in Philadelphia. Cold Roast beef asparagus Some vinegar olive oil and then sharp river vallone special seasonings fantastic stuff. What a game guys so good to finally be Dallas and a game like that at home of all places specially after last year where The -ficiating was terrible from the opening kickoff in Dallas to That no call against Dallas Goddard that Everyone is saying got his touchdown notified was garbage was terrible. What a lot of guys? He wouldn't expect to stopped up. Sidney Jones best defensive player of the year by an eagles player at least via cornerback. Sammy Jones played eighteen hours. Day made them count may them count. He's a guy who's been a pariah in the city's been a joke since its drafting twenty. Seventeen missed most of his rookie. Year has basically sucked for the last two and a half years is frequently only injured. He's an injury prone guy date matt to his time in college when you know he tours Achilles and thing just haven't really gone right from there then. The game huge huge pass breakup eagles players players ever have passed breakup. Maybe the guy drops it. Maybe it's an overthrow under three whatever. How often does and Eagles quarterback on a go route nine route of all things you have the past broken up unreal Sidney Jones in me tell each other fairy tales? Mr Jones Defensive Cornerback of the week offensive player of the week. Friends it back in the week. I don't know great performance by Sydney Limited time. We'll also WANNA chow. Greg Greg my God you know great words my Guy Severin the slot a guy. How wasn't he on the squad before this that doesn't make any sense that Nelson Aguilar? How could you and good conscience be suiting up for thirteen games over that guy? It doesn't make a lick of sense doesn't make any sense because good as number two receiver and NFL. No now can you maybe be a competent slot guy. Yeah and sometimes this arrive in saying that. Is Greg word. This amazing talent. No but he gives a you know what he gives a thousand percent effort and he tries. He's confident he can run routing hands. He's on a burner. He doesn't have these other worldly all these skills. He's not built like Toronto. Speed Randy Moss. But the guy tries. He's been through a lot. He led a thirteen to one team in as a quarterback in college he he was on the cover of sports illustrated for crying out loud and then he goes on breath as a quarterback has to get converted to a wide receiver. Get stuck on the practice squad for years gets a bunch of times reese resod cut resigned And look what he's at now toasted the city for the last two weeks underdog baby. He's an underdog and we love that here guy came out of nowhere. Where on the practice squad was a big young college? Didn't make it at the. NFL quarterback look at him now. Slot receive a team. That's GonNa win the NFC. They don't have a playoff game. Gregoire Jonas Start a playoff game for the eagles couldn't love it. More Mac Homs Nelson Aguilar Mac Collins. Gone Nuts Nagla. I hope I never see you in mid Nigerian gun. You'LL SEGACD you. Anna Twenty to the twenty fifth anniversary of the Super Bowl team at the link will do no little round applause. Read before the mother that I don't care I don't see back back this year. Your mess on the juice. Judas import as my family loves they love juice largest bad vibes. Man Symbol is that I don't know the success of went passing toward now and got her being more involved in the offense and his successor saying Scott and Sanders I don't know how much you can. Now dismiss those comments during the year where you had people in. The media had ex teammates whomever saying guys like alshon Jeffery Nelson Igor or didn't like playing for Carson Wentz and I dismiss out of bed with Jeffrey because even that dolphins game after all those comments Jeffries last healthy game I believe he. I had a great game of one sees when jefferies played this year Once every connection early in the season Minnesota Green Bay jefferies played well with once this season so oh I don't know about that but I I don't know if he's in the doghouse what is with winces is unhappy with Israel. That's what I hate about him in the sense that week. One to Sean Ball doubt everyone. Everyone did really well. Great Team Win. Great offensive performance in the second half against Washington. They Complain Amount Roller Game. We follow that with the next week a drop touchdown to win the game And then just became a shawl receiver for the remainder of the season You know body language least valuable player. Certainly there's snow room seem like early in the season. I thought this team was unlikable. I hated so many guys on the team. SCANDIC Aguilar Hollins these guys get him off. The team is Greg. Word is talent as Nelson Aguilar. Absolutely not would I rather have greg word out there on Sunday in the playoffs announced. Absolutely you Sign Alley this. I arm today. Say Hey pal thanks for two thousand seventeen everything else. It's a wash. How Fun next year? Maybe pick up a seventh round. Pick for you and free. The he ain't coming back he doesn't WANNA come back. I don't mean this team wants back in coming back. They're fun now. It's insane. How things can change quickly? And some of it's the way. Doug Peterson who I think again the fourth fourth-down miscues decide coach fantastic game in Saw Noah Becker Great Eagles Fan great follow on twitter yesterday. Talking about everything we've seen over the last asshole yours and the way Doug Peterson has faced adversity with injuries. The way he almost pulled off a miraculous one in New Orleans in the playoffs last year as huge dogs and really alshon different. Just trump's pass pass. Eagles Eagles are probably going to the Super Bowl and the super bowl run. Obviously the way he made. Nick foles look like Joe Montana. Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. Whatever you WanNa say say and the creative play call had stalled there that is head especially you saw that touched on a god or a beautifully designed play beautiful? It was great. I just like swoon as soon I saw that happen in that fake left boom across the mental Qatar touchdown six. How can we do doubt Doug Peterson? How can you doubt the man? When will people stop? Uh saying stuff like that people wanted to fire people wanted to get people. Must Frank. Frank ain't making the playoffs this year. I'll tell you that I'm the guy who has wish Frank Reich was still here for an week Planning Doug saw the guy does guy whose always calling the place we love. Doug Doug might be more indispensable spendable to this eagles organization than even himself which is crazy to think about but doug is the guy his character stands above all else and all those other intangibles he has players like playing for. That's all you can ask. Sometimes he's great. His emotional intelligence is through the roof. I love the man. Give him the benefit of the doubt Out until proven otherwise. He's not making the playoffs. Three straight years. How many coaches have done that? Mr Riney hasn't happened since the two thousand eight two thousand nine two thousand ten campaign with a made the playoffs three times before that. They made the playoffs three straight times a from while five straight times from two thousand two thousand four and then I believe buddy wants three straight appearances as well as our old friend. Dick Dick for meal who infamously said of the cow doubts. How's come and take us for granted? Bull whip their you know what's it's great. It's great to have Doug I love dog. He's the man what else mortgages say he got Carson Plan. Thank yous and I love the way. The dog is kind of saying. Hey we don't have all these mouths to feed out there. We don't have an Alshon Jeffery. We don't have a Nelson guys who are demanding their touches or catches the receptions nations nets on against the early like a snide remark. Alshon you I think really Wellness Eagles career. We have guys who are hungry out there yet. Hungry dogs hungry dogs was run faster. Baby they run faster. He Got Greg Ward out there. He got big. Bob Davis Arthur whiteside. Who got the game on the opening drive yet to catch it for thirty seven? Thirty nine Arza. Belief improvement midnight catch in where they have a second round pick but has a pulse. That's more you can say. The first half of the season the first three quarters of the season as opposed donen playoffs. I'll take that as an improvement for all JAE. JAO WHATEVER YOU WANNA call our whiteside tithing his name whether it's going to blog post newsletter. Tweet I type out A.. They are T H. I think his name is actually spelled R.. Fagan's are Sega. Just a random aside but those guys are hungry. They're not demanding their touches whence isn't isn't NYC the running the offense through which sounds weird. A quarterback is always having the offense run through him. But they're not saying. Hey this we need to. We need to target arts when you gotTA oughta being targeted Alshon Nellie letting him moving him around the pocket using his legs putting on the run put him in position do what he does best. I was corresponds back. That has athleticism. Maneuvering in the pocket. Is this capability his throwing on the run. Doug is putting him in a position to do that now regardless of who is that Wa out the guy got guys off the street for playing their hearts out and when Carson Wentz playing like he is doesn't matter turn to that was awesome. What a gay amen? The link was electric. It was rocking. It's great to see the eagles as I said finally for the first time in over a decade have a huge emphatic statement. Win Against the hated. Dallas cowboys I hit that man but FM Athen ask them after all their bandwagon fans. F- skip Bayless F- Jerry Jones F Dak Amari Cooper demarcus. Ware Orlando Scans Rick Aikman Aikman all of them. You can kiss my you know what you can S my. You know what you ain't GonNa play offsets your baby. I don't carry you hire next year and then going to change next next year and that's the East hasn't had repeat division winners since the two thousand three and two thousand four Philadelphia Eagles. That's chain next year as the eagles went on Sunday in the Midlands it has. We've seen as our good friend. Mary's has said we've seen our shares. Miracles needles. Giants Games are Americal going from five to seven tonight and seven and capturing division and capturing the hearts of this city the only guys like Greg Board and Mile Sanders Can Mexico. They don't WanNa Division version again. Doug Peterson to make the playoffs. Four straight years when the vision three out of four years. I'm so excited right now. On rockin this track rocking mandate I'm getting cited I'm Frank Costanza. Moderate just festive atmosphere in my little apartment hartman bedroom slash recordings slash blog in studio slash Home Office. I'm back bay. The birds are back. The birds are back. The birds are Beth. Do WanNa talk real quick about Zach of the athletic. The great write about this in the athletic Thing came out either yesterday this Mondays. We are Sunday night when this morning. Talking about sacrifices pre game speech from Saturday night talking about a sixteenth century entry Spanish conquistador Who came with his men to Philadelphia's troops that Philadelphia to be weird if again if he came to you are the Gulf of Mexico Getting Ready to pillage. Unfortunately and he'll get his men told him to burn the ships. What does that ATM ships? Obviously he said burn the ships. There's no retreat no surrender. There is no way home there is no reminder the back of your head that you can say hey. We lost our home with our tablets when our legs retreat. No surrender no looking back. No point of no return. Supporting overturn mission is simple. Succeed or die burn the ships. That's what Zakar talked about. Burn the ships Carson wentz Brandon Brooks. Zack Tucker put it on social media. Hashtag burn the ships baby southern in my good friend. Big Mike for the game in retard another close up to burn the ships thing and I was just overwhelmed and motion was amazing. There's so much weight to it. A gravitas in reminds me of something that Titus andronicus the great indie Punk Band Rebecca Concept about burn the ships November treat notes runner baby tr Nineteen Eagles at the twenty nine thousand. Nine Eagles will win the super bowl home to it. I'm getting a burn. The ships out to baby. I'm getting a MEATLOAF best two out of three Tattoo. I don't care. Burn the ships baby from the bleachers as always shame clancy follow me on twitter at shameless owners who are anti sign up for my subscription Patriot newsletter. Just two dollars a month a newsletter delivered to your email inbox every weekday morning patriot dot com slash. Shame was underscored clancy. When you're faced with versity were that work home? Relationships jets sports whatever it may be just think back and say burn the ships Gobert. Hey there podcast Powell's I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hitting season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred and sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and and make sure to check out our other great podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor Strong and continued success with Justin. Liz rozier subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP.
Rey Hernandez, Scientific Study of ET Contact and the Paranormal |412|
"I bet that self Serie towns on edge about it. Everyone that comes in here. That's all they wanna talk about. Well, you can tell them all just a weather willies, and Florida. Right now that we know of. That's a clip from the new history channel series project blue book, and although some claim that the series doesn't stick close enough to the real history of the US government's investigation into UFO's and e t contact, I would suggest that it does a pretty good job of reminding us of that history and documenting that history because, of course, the problem is real science of this kind, the kind that doctor Allen, Hynek and project blue book was trying to do is hard to come by we had numbers, PC, academics involved in this. We had a PC statistician involve knock, the Russell Scott pony. We had the advice of Dr dean rate in throughout this process. So it was really a collaborative research effort with academics and researchers this is a total paradigm shift. I don't care how much you've studied you photos. I don't care how. On the cutting edge. You think you are of conspiracy all-news, whatever what we're asking people to do is take that leap to say, okay, we'll then somebody has to study what's going on in. Here's a guy who studied it and he studied, it scientifically. And now let's talk about his findings in, we're talking about friggin reptilians versus Gray's. First spirit, beings, and were comparing income trusting the percentage of people who said they had this kind of contact or that kind of contact. So before I get onto this interview with the very excellent Ray Hernandez, who has nearly single handedly created this entire movement of the scientific investigation of contact experiences, and he's drawn to him, some of the brightest and most important, advance thinkers. We have of our time. I just can't say enough about what he's done in about. What he reveals in this interview. But before we get to that interview, and my poking at Ray, which you gotta know I'm going to do, let me return to the project blue book clip, 'cause there's another interesting little point from that scene that relates to today's interview. So he likes the game would have given off approximately fifty thousand Lumine on a clear night. Five thousand feet that would fumes approximately one hundred nothing taken capital fraction. When currents are the fact of the balloons cone shapes what he said. You put on that song. Or in your notes you said that fuller said the song that's on told him that he was in danger. And just put it on. Because one of the findings from raise work, and a messy finding it is, is that the U of fo- E T stuff cannot be easily separated from all that, which we call paranormal is overwhelmingly positive experiences. Number two, it result in a positive transformation of the experiencers number three and four is that these experiences were primarily, not physical. They will primarily paranormal that was number three number four, is that these experiences involve a manipulation of space time. Stick around aggregrate. Chad coming up with Ray Hernandez. Today's guest, Ray Hernandez heads in organization, and I've been trying to think how to say this, but there's really no other way because Ray Hernandez's free organization is doing some of the most important research in the world period. I mean when you get a group of top PHD, scientists researching the nature of and implications of our ongoing contact with highly advanced non human intelligence. What most people call e t and in a minute raise gonna go even way beyond that. But when you even have that, what is more important than that, and I want to kind of frame this up, and I was just chatting with rail little bit before him 'cause it's kinda strange. You know, I think deep down, we all know that this, what I call you a faux e t thing is a central question. But even after we have disclosure, and I mean, folks, don't forget. Don't let your hanger on doubter friends. Forget that this has been disclosed. The reality this New York Times. CBS news, Fox News as all just chatting to Ray about why am I not battling for airtime with Anderson, Cooper and Tucker Carlson to talk to Ray Hernandez, who is the only guy who has a public group with top scientists, that's researching this stuff, it's a rather strange situation that we find ourselves in, but at the same time, we know that some of the stuff we're going to talk about today is uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable to the level that we want to kind of push down and push. It aside in think about more stupid, CNN twenty four hour news cycle stuff, but I digress, even from the beginning because what I really want to do is get in this conversation with this remarkable guy. Ray hernandez. Says, who, by the way, still a fulltime practicing attorney master's degree from Cornell, working on his PHD from Berkeley in the spirit in his spare time to for how smart, this guy is author of an amazing super important book beyond you photos, the science of consciousness, in contact with non human intelligence. Ray. It is absolutely terrific to have you back on. It's been a couple years. You've done even so much more sense, than thanks so much for coming back on its kept going. Joining me. Thank you for that, wonderful introduction. Alex, and I just want to let your audience members know that I turn to you. And also to Jeffey mich- off to get my, my training, my chops hunt consciousness research, because once I found out that my paranormal experiences that I was having is related to conscious then devoured, so many of your interviews over the many years. And, and I found them as as fundamental as foundational educational pieces for my proper understanding of what was happening to me as an experienced her in my experience, began in April of twenty twelve so it's been a crash course of receiving training both from whatever the intelligence that I've been interacting with, but also from people like yourself in Jeffey mich- off and others and Greenwich as well in Rudy seals. So it was a tremendous learning that took place since twenty twelve will that's great to hear you know where I thought we would go is back to that twenty twelve story because it is an amazing account. I think it sets the stage for so many launching off points that we could have. And it's just a terrific personal story. Some guy as you describe, you know, I mean, who you are at that time two thousand twelve you're an attorney, you're a busy guy. You're not like into spirituality, your none of the UFO's. You're not any of this stuff. You're just a guy successful guy in tell that story. What happens? Yes. As. Told you earlier several years ago I was a rationalist materialist of atheist with little understanding and zero interest in all this topics that are discussed on your show on. And then one evening on March, the, the third twenty twelve hour fifteen year old Jack Russell terrier became paralyzed and she had been very, very ill even before. Then she couldn't run. She couldn't jump. She was taking Viagra for her heart directs flush out the excess liquids in her body. And so we knew you know, she had limited time to be with us. But she was like, our, our daughter or first child. And so that evening on a Saturday evening. She became totally paralyzed I then called our vet. Who is a good friend of mine of my wife and I knocked Phil crews and he described what the symptoms. And she said, what you're telling me is seems like she had a. Cerebral hemorrhage a stroke, and open my office tomorrow to euthanize her because, you know, I told him I was very uncomfortable. Waiting all weekend for being totally paralyzed in, in front of us. So then my wife had just come from three day, Catholic church prayer retreat, three days nonstop, just pure prayer. And so when she came home that Saturday night at about eight thirty, I told her what had happened, and she immediately began to pray and eleven o'clock or so, I went to sleep and she continued praying night. And then in the morning, we both will we check the dog the dog was still totally paralysed. So I went back to bed and she carried the dog down stairs to see if she can go to the bathroom. And so what happened was that she saw an object in the corner of our living room, that floated four feet off the ground. And it looked. Like an upside down, u it was roughly about a half a foot with an about a foot and a hat and a half in height. And she, maybe thought it was an angelic spirit, or, or a an angel because you have been praying for Djelic intervention, so she knelt down started to pray right there. And this object beamed on her these two green lasers. And so then at that point, she began to call me so I could see her angel as well. She wasn't scared at all. Because in her mind, these Rangel's this was an angel. And so after me being non responsive this Sunday morning at six o'clock, I need it. My beauty rest, she ran upstairs, and she hold me out of bed, and, and she forced me to, to see what this was, and she wouldn't tell me the details. And then when we both went down the stairs. He was in front of me down the stairs. Maybe two or three steps right in the middle. Degrom. She disappeared and the dog disappeared. And then immediately some type of intelligence took over my consciousness. I didn't care that my wife had gone the dog had gone. And then I had, I didn't have any peripheral vision all was able to see like a little, if you put your rounded finger to your is like you looking at Benach user, I was just see this small portion of our living room and they're floating four feet off the ground was what I now. Call an energy being news roughly two feet wide by about a foot in height. It was like a like a Mirage in the desert translucent like that waving energy multicolored a semi transparent. And then basically I squinted at it. I looked at it, then I wait my hand at it. I said. A. B S this, what she got me a four for this, for this junk, you know. And then I turned around and I walked up the stairs. And immediately knocked me out. In my bed. Forty five minutes later when I woke up, I was now fully conscious and I was like, what the you know what? And I ran down the stairs. And then my wife, poof, like reappears. She looks down on the floor and the dog is running around the whole living room. And she starts to celebrate Hallelujah Hallelujah. They ain't just here today. Angels cured. And so to me, it was like an atom bomb had exploded in my brain. And so my wife, I later found out six months later that what she had was missing time both forty five minutes that she was gone. She had no recollection that they were gone to her was like she had gone down the stairs. She looked down the dog was running around. She started to celebrate but it was forty five minutes because I had looked at the at the clock and so was different stories different perceptions of what we both want because we both were not there when initially saw what we saw. And then bewildered. Then it was chaos. It was like mind blowing. And then after that I thought was paranormal related. And so I spent several months of going to the internet thinking was paranormal but then she had also told me in Spanish a sip body. Komo Nabi pick Enya, which translate it. Always most appeared to be like a little small craft. So then I said, well, you Afo supposed to be outside as was huge. This can't be a UFO, but let me type in you vote to see what I can learn about it. And so for the next two months, that's all I did six to eight hours a day, researching paranormal UFO and nothing on the internet supported what had happened to my wife and I and the two months later the door woke my wife up at three thirty in the morning. My wife than went downstairs, and opened the back door. But the dog didn't wanna go to the back door. She was jumping on the front door and then after about a minute. She looked up, and it was a huge gigantic craft or UFO or you a p we prefer the term you appear on a dented aerial phenomenon because most of the time when people see are not physical, crafts, quote, unquote. It's all a type. Types of, of light configurations and energy configurations in, in the sky. So anyway, so when I woke up that morning, she says, oh, my angels came and visited me last night. They came in a beautiful jelly craft that stained glass windows, just like our church and I'll say what you saw an angel describing, then she described it. And then I asked him to draw it as what you saw was that you Afo. She goes, oh, you wouldn't understand, because you're an atheist, you know. So it was at that point that I said, oh, my God, this is you of related, you know, and so then it was heavy duty you go on the internet. And then about a month and a half later. This is early June. My wife went down to Mexico. She spent an entire month with my daughter stayed with family members and multiple times about four times, a cold down her angels to be praying and wanting to see the angels, that interacted with her and each time, a big UFO with show up and one time, it stopped airport traffic in very crews airport, and it's all documented in the newspapers. And there was even a TV into the local TV and our crews that I was able to, to pull up and, and the man that was going to go to a her brothers are actually her nieces. Baptism party that Sunday right after that oil you aware of craft. Over Veracruz airport. He was one of those people that were stuck going around very crews. And he said everybody in the plane was taking videos of the UFO, and he was showing the video in that the baptism party. And so, and then my wife also saw these three very toll being she described them as eight of seven to eight feet tall dressed in white monk's robes. They didn't look completely human. They, they had like a bold head a different facial features but she couldn't tell what it was because she was seeing it sideways, and she couldn't fully tell what, what their face looked like, but they floated in front of her about a foot off the ground for about twenty seconds and then they disappeared, and then my wife when she got back home, she was having all these paranormal experiences. Especially pre cog mission. And I won't go into those details, but it was it was so many of them. And then in August roughly six months after the initial experience in the living room, I for the first time ever purposely tried to call down the intelligence that my wife had been interacting with this is in the evening in August, mid August. It was ended appeared this huge gigantic object appeared decides of a football stadium right on top of my next door. Neighbor's house thirty feet. The bottom of the cry of this object was less than thirty feet away from us, and my daughter wound up seeing it and three adult friends, and there was telepathic communication that took place. Really, you know, some crazy stuff, and, and then it was after that experience that it began for me. Two years of non stop paranormal experiences that really lasted two years. And even let the formation. Of free over two day period as well. Let's put a pause right there. Pas Mark, because I wanna talk about the free organization, but I wanna go back to how I started this show. 'cause it sounded like hype folks, it sounded like height, most important research, in the world. It's not hype if this is real, if this guy, this attorney, from Miami, who spent this is two thousand twelve who spent the last seven years of his life, creating this incredibly relevant and important organization that everyone points to this free organization. Harvard PHD's a dozen PHD's from around the world all drawn to it all saying, Mr. Hernandez, what you're doing so important validated by peer reviewed journals. All that stuff has happened from one guy who had these extraordinary experiences similar experiences. Two thousands of other people have reported similar experiences to what is now. Now been disclosed in admitted to how is this, not the most important topic in the world, raise going to talk about our relationship to the phenomenon or the phenomena fit is out there. But I like to keep it in simpler terms, since this is what we've been program to think of ET's in UFO, so that's the term I use. Because that's where we've been programmed. How is not our relationship with the super it Vance intelligence that has this ability to manipulate consciousness, as raised talking about in a way that we don't understand, how is that? Not topic. Number one, and before you can onto the free organization, I did want to highlight a couple of points from your experience, but I did think it might be interesting, if we could to recap some important points from that first experience. Right. Because so many things that people here, and then you encapsulate them. All multiple witnesses healing, again, a spiritual dimension to it after affects so you have this experience and then long after your wife starts having these advanced consciousness experiences. Telepathy precondition all the rest of the stuff you do too. And then you have this crazy memory screening thing were some won something. Some entity some intelligence is taking over your brain, a love that part of the story that you walk down. It's the most extraordinary experience in your life and your brain clicks in goes. Oh, this is bullshit. I need to go back upstairs and go to sleep. So these are some of the elements to this, that are there and then drive you later on to start trying to put your arms around this, in a scientific way and that's what you've done with this free organization. So I know we're covering ground that's been covered before. But I just. View the like we have to start here because otherwise it all just sounds like inside baseball crap people that they can't follow. So you are just about to say that there's this amazing set of coincidences that lead you to found this free organization, but so tell that story, however you want, but I almost feel like we need to jump to the end of what freeze today. The books publishing the respect it's getting the importance, it's seeing not only when the inside the F O community, but Lincoln, and I'd a lot of people in the scientific community are looking over going. Hey, you know, this is really important stuff. So tell us about the freons Asian, the free organization from my perspective was orchestrated by non human intelligence. It was literally set up a within today period, I don't wanna go into all the details of how was formed. It's in a book in the preface that I wrote to our book beyond you oppose, but just. Synopsis of it. I was driving down a major thoroughfare in Miami Florida, middle of traffic jam going into downtown Miami at eight thirty in the morning and then listening to this radio interview of his man doing a documentary on art fat which came from his own liposuction. So I was listening to this thing. And I was, you know, fascinated by it all of a sudden, I'm, I'm not in my car anymore have. Nobody, I'm just mind. This is pure mind, and little by little inside this huge spinning wheel and the wheel becomes materialized. I see spokes is like if you could imagine you're inside a huge ferris wheel. That's like ten times a size of ferris wheel. You're at the fulcrum in the center of it, and you're looking out and spinning around slowly, and then each of the different spokes has a video and one video was you Afo contact experiences. Another was near death experiences. Another was auto body experiences. Another one communication would ghosts spirits. Another one had remote viewing another one with Chemin journeys, etc. Etc. Cetera all the different ways that humans are piercing veal and having. Contact with non human intelligence and then it wasn't the voice. It was pure information that informed me that humans are approaching all these different ways that they're communicating with them. They said them, whatever them is, and a separate indistinct phenomenon. But in fact, it's all one phenomenon and they said and the key to be able to understand it humans or calling it consciousness. But in fact, it's the fabric of our reality, and then it gave me instructions of what I needed to do. And again, it wasn't a voice. It was just straight information. And it said, I need to inform humanity of the relationship between them the spirit world and consciousness them the spirit world in consciousness, what is that relationship? And as this information was being put into my consciousness, I had no idea what they're talking about. You know what this was a quick question there Ray. Because when you say them was it, and this is gonna freak people out, but who cares we have to kind of deal with it, is it a voice now from an entity. Is it just knowing kind of absorbing into your mind? Is it happening in a flash immediate? Download is it an ongoing kind of normal conversation if you will, in terms of time line in any details that would help was outside of deftly space-time outside of space outside of time. Because when I was returned that interview that I was listening to that not skip a beat. You know, was there was not a second that had gone by with that interview back the liposuction are. And, and as a matter of fact, someone doubted me, and he did the research any found that date that interview on public radio here Miami about this man, being interviewed for that. And he showed me, the link says, you know Ray I doubt it you were. Right. And so, but it seemed like it was about twenty thirty minutes that I was having this type of experience. And in terms of it wasn't a voice is difficult to describe. Alex is what it is. I guess, is like people that do like mystical meditation, and get downloads of information like knowing this, but it was much more tangible. It wasn't like so obstruct. It was like someone was was putting these starts in your brain without a voice. You know. You know, they're no worse to describe it. I guess it's like an end e e a near death experience when this being identified as God speaks to the dead person, you know, and they're getting a life review in, they're getting unstructured in from from quote unquote, God from this high level intelligence of they don't describe it as a voice. They just describe it as just like an instant knowing this incident for mation. So I would describe it the same way I'm so they said this about you getting rich and Secondly, the, the people you need gonna need help, and is one criteria for that you have to identify people with minimal eagle. So once it said that boom, I was back in my car, and I was freaking out. Okay. And then, you know, just totally bewildered you know it was freaking out. And then later that after noon, I got an Email from Mary Rodwell six months earlier, I had sent an Email to like. Ten very famous names of people in Ufology wanting someone to talk to Whitley Strieber grant Cameron Stanton Friedman. Mary, Rodwell Kathy Martin, etc. Cetera these big names and you fondly because I wanted someone to talk to no one to communicate with and so Mary had responded. She says derailed, I'm sorry. I'm responding to an Email, you had sent me six months ago. But it just six months ago, arrives the day after or the day of your download experience. I mean again, we can just kind of breeze past that as coincidence, coincidence, coincidence. But it is was held up in cyberspace. And you could ask me Rodwell, if you ever do interview her, again, asking that question. And she'll verify it, and so then she showed me how to use Skype at never use guy ten we were on on Skype like one thirty in the morning. And then I had told her Mary, I need to go to sleep. I got work tomorrow. And then the very next day, I gotta. Phone call. Hello, is this Ray Hernandez. Yes. Who's this Dr Rudi Shiels who at deal? This man, was he's an emeritus professor of astrophysics from Harvard University, very, dear friend of the late Dr John Mack, very, very, dear friend of the late Edgar Mitchell. And, and he was like a Stephen Hawking's type of person. I mean is expertise is black holes and had been a member of the astrophysics department at Harvard for more than forty years. So here's this man. Give me a call at nine thirty in the morning. The day after my experience, and what had happened was that Mary had jumped the gun. She had sent him my experience because I also had physics downloads and it was a download about consciousness how it works. Alright operates and so Rudy got the Email from Mary, but I didn't have time to read the Email that Mary had sent me asking for my permission for her to send that information. And so a route each just gave me a call. And at that point, he was like blown away says Ray the information that you received is Edgar Mitchell's quantum hologram theory of consciousness of how it operates and Ed grow speculated that, what Rudy Colt, the modern miracles and Edgar also called the Mata miracles that they're all interrelated, and then he told me that he also, you know, hypothesize this is well, the information that was given to me, but he said, I was given very directly. So then he's talking about Edgar Mitchell's quantum hologram theory of consciousness, which is a physics based theory of information. How information works with our consciousness, our brain and, and the information feels of our reality and very, very detailed and complex. And then towards the end he said, look Ray. I when I help you out, you'll give it a clear mission. I will be scientific advisor, but it's important that you write down this telephone number, and I wrote it down. And he says did the. Telephone number of my mentor assay was, who's your mentor? He goes Edgar Mitchell. And so I was like blown away because I knew Mitchell was, and so I waited like four hours to give him a call and mutual, just for those who you know, astronaut, I think, like sixth guy to walk on the moon, which now, days, younger people can't process that. But, like I was just telling my kids the other day this is like rockstar superstar athlete. Most important sexy Hollywood guy in the world. That's what an astronaut was. And then this guy goes in does that he's not one of the first guys, but he's the sky, which is likely reward and then he goes on, and he has this opinion on the way back and it leads him to dedicate the rest of his life to understanding, again what? We're broadly calling consciousness here in. That's okay. And then he starts the ion group, you know, I ns to, for no, what excites. Dean Raden everybody. He knows we've talked to so many of those people forefront, parapsychology research, all the rest that so please continue with the story, but that's who fat guy is or was he just passed away couple years ago, a year ago, about in February of almost three years ago to get his was anticipated for audience members edgar's also known as the father of the modern, you a full disclosure movement, 'cause he was Lee most prominent astronaut that was out open talking about you Vos that they exist. And he's appeared at numerous conferences over the years has gone numerous interviews. So he pretty much is the, the father of the UFO disclosure movement. But more importantly, I think he should be known as the father of modern consciousness research. He laid the foundation for what dean rating is doing today, and he was a brilliant, man, very, very loving and kind he also did videos about how we're. Destroying our planet also about spirituality that we need to become more spiritual. Edgar really was the full package. So again, if you do into Rudy shields doctor releases ask him about what I just told you said, look, Rhody rages, told me, this crazy story is this true. And you'll say he'll back it up and then you could have also asked editor, but I just passed away. So what happened was what up the courage for hours later. Right. Hung up with Rudy to give at grew cold. It was about three o'clock or so. And then he told me that he and Rudy had a very lengthy conversation shortly after I spoke with Rudy, and Edgar was definitely intrigued, and he says Ray what are you doing tomorrow? Said, well, you know, just working, I don't have any set plans. They said, would it be possible for you? Come to my place at ten o'clock say, we'll where you located. He says, lake worth Florida, which is ninety minutes away, assure, it'd be an honor. So we set a time for me to go to his house. So mind, you now this is two days after my experience, I would I was at Edgar Mitchell's house. And I was there like for six hours, I won't give you the details of what to place there. But basically Edgar told me his whole life, he told me about how all the astronauts, and the cosmonauts were having paranormal experiences in space. He told me about his experiences, but he never saw you vote. But he one thing that I realized was that Edgar has been speaking with so many different contact experiencers people that, that had had NDA's OB's, you Afo, contact experiences Edgar knew the full gamut and the interrelationship of these experiences. So he said, look Ray, I ready discussed it, we will be your scientific advisors for whatever you decide to do. And I said, but Edgar, I haven't even thought about what mission I was given a let alone what I'm going to be doing. And he says, don't worry. Right. It'll come to you. It always works that way. And to me, I was like perplexed. I mean look with this man is saying, you know, it'll come to you. It always works that way it was like he was speaking in riddles. And finally, what happened was that Edgar had been working with so many experiencers. Edgar have been involved in the paranormal world for so long that he knew how, you know, synchronicity take place in downloads, and, and how the orchestration takes place with non human intelligence. So then I called Mary later on. We had a Skype coal, and I told her what had happened with routing what had happened with that girl. And I said, would you like to join us, so? Two days after that initial experience that out of body experience while I was taking I was taken to what I now call a matrix reality. The free organization was born great so rate since we did start at the beginning, we're going to be weighted down with kind of covering stuff that you've covered a million times, and you probably get tired of talking about. But I think we're on a roll here of trying to create this completed picture of this just so important history, fundamentally important history. So one of the really important things the you decide to undertake as part of this free organization is you say throw science at it throw science at it will the first thing you do that is truly unique in a dozen sound remarkable at this point. But if we look back, even a little bit in this history, and I'm gonna keep using the term. UFO ET. People because I don't like the other terms because you know what they mean. But when we look at the history of the UFO thing, the shift you made is to say, hey, everyone's talking about landing sites nuts, and bolts propulsion. Why don't we talk about experiencers? Why don't we talk about the experience that people have had huge shift right? Huge huge shift. And then the second thing you do is you say, okay, let's throw some science at it because, again, the folks who liked to kind of hold onto the reins of mainstream science and misdirecting in misguidance will tell you that human experience cannot be studied, scientifically, but anyone knows that. That's of course nonsense. Of course, any discussion of pain every pain medication depression. All these things are human experiences that we'd studied scientifically along time, and we have billions of dollars of. Pharmaceutical companies that study all that whether they're good or bad believe that aside your point, was let study the human experience of contact with e non-human telling and you throw at it, this scientific methodology of medical scientific survey. So tell us about that process, and then tell us about some of the huge takeaways from that initial survey work that you did. Okay, it's important to lay out the foundation when I was having these experiences, I began to do like anyone that has an academic background and academic literature review of, what has been written academically, about youthful, contact experiencers, which is normal in logical, and what I found out was that almost nothing has been written academically, about you Afo contact experiences there. I've been a few very small studies that were done, for example, Dr Kenneth ring, I believe you might have interviewed in. I'm not sure not yet. Not yet. Dr Kenneth ring for you audience members is one of the world's leading researchers on near death experiences. He was a tenured professor at the university of Connecticut for many, many years, and in nineteen eighty eight he published really historic book titled the makeup project in, in that book. He compared roughly eighty five individuals that had you Afo related contact experiences mainly updates with eighty five individuals that had near death experiences. Now. He didn't ask anywhere near the number of questions that we ask in our free experience research study survey. But one of the main areas that he focused on was how that these individuals change psychologically, what is their personality profile now. And. And then they were other smaller studies, for example, Kathy Martin and Denise stone. Kathy is a is a member of our board. And she is the director of mo- fonts experience a research division, and she had done a study with probably fifty experiencers again mainly up. Duck tease in most of the questions were sent around the abduction phenomena. It was fifty questions. So is extremely limited. There were couple of others Leo sprinkle Dr Leo sprinkle who was a professor of psychology at the university of Wyoming. He had published some articles on you of contact experiences. But is basically he administered the Minnesota mental health. I always forget the acronym. It's a mental health assessment a battery to determine whether you know, someone is, is a nutjob or not, whether they have meant the hall problems. And what he concluded was that other just as normal as of the mainstream pop. Relation there's the full contact experiences. So it was very, very limited data. And so because I ready was given the information that all of these contact experiences were all interrelated. Okay. How are we able to do a comparative analysis between you phone contact experiencers with near death experiences without a body Smith's given the fact that there was zero data on the youthful contact experiences? All you had existing at that time were books on individual cases or individuals that had put together hypnotic regression information, asking tons of leading questions from a very, very biased perspectives. I e David Jacobson and but Hopkins. You know it's not putting someone on your table and asking them leading questions under hypnotic regression. That's not scientific economic research. So, in other words, there was nothing there to be able to, to compare to be able to use for a comparative analysis to understand how what I not call. The contact modalities is interrelated. So in let me in there because I don't want to get things sidetracked. I'm not sure we're I come down David Jacobs interviewed him a couple times interviewed him. And Mary Rodwell kind of you know in inner leave the interviews. I just don't want people to tune out immediately, in say, oh, this guy is in this camp. And this guy is in that camp. Because in you're getting to this rape. But the important thing about your research, is it scientific research. It was done in a way to take. If you have a bias against David Jacobs, my contention is that bias does not show up in your survey. Correct. Right. Sign unit design it survey to this or position that you set out to say, okay, how can I ask these questions in as broad away as possible? Scientific how can I do the thing like I asked the question multiple times, see if they repeat it how can I have a researcher who's done social science work like this review, all the questions, make sure the right questions? That was your approach. Correct. Because there was zero data that was there. The reason I throughout his name, and I throw out of the people who do hypnotic regression research. That's not, you know, scientific academic research. And so therefore, we had a stop a baseline of what is the scientific data that's out there. What is the typical data so we need to turn to undertake a comprehensive system of data collection done on many countries, you know, multinational, and in many languages. And so what we did is we spent nine months. We already had establish. A research team with many peach economics, and went many researchers people like Mary, Rodwell Kathleen Martin barber lamb Leo sprinkle, etc. People that had been had their boots on the ground, working with experiencers for many, many years. So we put together the academics with the researchers and we say, okay, how do you go about studying you will contact experiences and John Cleo who taught research methodology for forty five years. Dr John, Cleo, a professor of psychology who basically had focused on the paranormal for over forty years. He was a tenure faculty member, one of the few that was attended faculty member focusing mainly on the paranormal. So he was the chair of our committee, and we spent nine months trying to develop a methodology, which resulted in a three surveys to them were want to taint in nature, totaling more than seven hundred questions, and then we develop a fair survey three which is open ended qualitative. Questionnaire seventy questions and then we advertise this might goodness wit. We advertise this all over the place. We advertise it in over five hundred Facebook sites. We had a mailing list of thousands over five thousand names that we assent that out to both the Afo, folks. The paranormal folks consciousness researchers ghosts and spirits end. The researchers OB researchers anyone that might have had contact with non human intelligence specifically our focus was you Afoa related contact experiences. We sent that out to and let me jump in there again because I've heard this before, and I know what's percolating in people's mind. Is that, that somehow invalidates your results because you went out to the broad population or in this case you went out to specific groups in sought their participation, the survey in just cut to the chase here? That does not invalidate, this kind of work. This is the way that workers of this kind is done all the time. If you're doing a pain survey, you don't go out in interview, everyone, whether or not, they experienced a certain kind of chronic arthritic pain, you know, to go out to the general population, you seek up people that have had that kind of experience and then you ask them things about that. So I don't know why people have this fixed in their head that, you can't go out and publicize and promote participation in these surveys. This is how it's done. There's no other ways. So you don't have to address that I just wanted to throw that as I get that back as we go out fishing a net. Huge gigantic fishing that two hundred radio interviews, we identified five hundred Facebook organizations, as I said, before dealing with this vice the rate of experiences, mainly focused on the Afo phenomenon because that's was the nature of our research study. And we did this on a weekly basis, we posted a in these five hundred Facebook sites are research study. And we also only allowed conscious explicit memory, and not me from hypnotic, regressions, lucid dreams, channeling, because we knew that if eventually, we wanna publish this in a peer review journal if you're using memory from lucid dreams and channeling have not aggression is going to be totally the bunked. And so that's why for phase one into the quantitative aspects of it. We allowed only conscious explicit memory, however, for face three, which is the qualitative instrument where people got to write down to details of their experiences. The write it out. We did allow these other type of memory recollections, but they had to identify this information came from a hypnotic regression this other one came from a lucid dream. This came from channeling, this was conscious, explicit memory, etc. Etc. So we didn't totally excluded but not for the quantitative data. And then we develop the surveys in English Spanish, French German, Slovak and very soon, it's going to be administered in, in Chinese. So and again, we had numerous piece the academics involved in this believe, also you interview Dr Bob Davis. Yes, Bob Davis is a retired professor of neuroscience from the state university of New York. Again, someone that's extremely interested in, in these topics very brilliant mind. And he helped us tremendously, we had a PC statistician involve the Russell scout pawn, we had the advice of Dr dean rate in throughout this process. So it was really a collaborative a research effort with academics and researchers. And yes, let's jump ahead then the big takeaways from this work. And I. Again, when we truly step back, we can see how significant this shift is in for folks who listeners skeptical the time they might not immediately see it because we talk about it all the time. But here's a guy right Hernandez in the free organization with all these academics and PHD's behind it that went out and did this survey look for the answer. And what you find is number one. Let's talk about the word ab- duck Shen and whether or not how that fits into this. And then the other thing I want you to hit on is the, you know, you call it contact modalities, but the interconnectedness of this phenomenon with all these other phenomenon. Correct. Just as a background. We had over four thousand two individuals respond to surveys for more than one hundred countries to our English language survey, we also did assisted analysis where we did country groupings all the responses. For the United States Canada, the United Kingdom mainland Europe. And then we group, the Australia New Zealand together and all of these different country. Groupings had less than ten percent, Satistics variability in how they responded to these questions. So that means that no matter where you live people responding almost the same exact way to all of these questions to a universal phenomena. Secondly, we had four major findings and let me address the abduction related questions within my for major findings, first of all, they were hundreds of other smaller findings, but let me just get get at the big picture here. Okay. As you were saying alluding to before most of this the, the research in this field. Focus mainly on what is called the of duck shin phenomenon. Even Whitley Strieber when he interviewed me, he said, objection researcher Ray or this and I said, Whitley, what our survey data revealed is that. This is everything. But objections. And what we determine was that only one third of the individuals, had, what is commonly cold and objection, which is forced physical taking and being relocated to another place. And we had almost double the number of people that had seen a UFO and had been brought to what we call a matrix reality, which is a, a non three d inter dimensional reality, almost double, the number that people have been abducted of -ducted. Checked here becau- 'cause now you're getting into specifics. In people need to go to the, the website, the free website, and find the survey because the summary of it like a hundred pages of the book beyond, you Afo is there for free for people to read and analyse in, you can get so much, this valuable information that is the summation of all these amazing what you just said, four thousand people around the world, you know, cross correlated to see if it's consistent, and it is all the rest of this, and the, the thing I wanted to point out is, so now you're talking about, you know, you f o abduction UFO abductions, all you see on TV. That's all you see in the movies, and now you're saying, well, what I really hear you saying because I don't want to bury talent other way is there's an element of that, that can be interpreted. That way, we don't wanna take away that experience people who experience that way. But when you look at the survey data, when you look at raise, really the result, he says, that's a minority. Experience a very small part. Yeah. Compared to the story that you told us at the beginning, the store, you have is a phenomenal account. I don't the story in a found onnell account. It is not an abduction account. So we have to figure out what's going on. But part of the part of doing that is we need data. And that's what you've given us. So mostly tricks reality. I'm just want to, you know you're going to talk in a minute about matrix reality, then you're going to talk about a duck Shen in the reality of that, and all these different kind of contact experiences, the people have, and I want people to follow what you're talking about, even if they haven't gone and read the research. Yep. Let me address the four major findings and all in sequence. First of all, what we determined is that the oval warming percentage of these experiences are positive experiences. They're not negative. But if you go to these UFO conferences, and if you go to the internet, and numerous websites, you'll think that it's all negative. Okay. You'll think that it's all these little evil grays that are. Doing all of this. Well, please, it's everything, but that number to hold on. I do to jump in there. Because I think this again, has the potential to lead us down the wrong path. I've been down this road. Like I told you for so many years with indie innings. And if you wanna start telling people that they're hellish, ND experience, isn't significant because it's a Maju, it's a minority experience, which it is you're gonna lose an important part of it, because it is part of the experiments. Understand percentage of it. Well, it's not even that you just said, it's third, so it's not a small. Let me backtrack while people have had an abduction, seventy percent now of the duct tease. Call themselves contact. He's why against this gets a little complicated because overtime they had numerous contacts experiences, their experiences change over time from negative experiences to positive experiences. For example, many people start off having a little gray visiting them in their bedroom, then they're paralyzed into being inspected by these graze over the years. Then people are, are now having the ability to be brought to you Afo craft perceived craft they're moving about the craft over two hundred fifty people are actually allowed top rate the craft for the abductees. It's only about four hundred forty people of duct, t's. Okay. And then the roughly two hundred change are able to even operate a craft. Okay. And then later on the begin interacting with non grace with human looking beings. And then also many of them with what is called spirit beings. And that's where all these lessons, come in, so they might have started off, as an update with highly negative experiences, but over time the experiences change the people that have had that answered the most negative experience. For example, we had this question. How would you describe your experiences okay? Very simple term, positive negative neutral, sixty six percent was positive neutral, twenty nine percent and negative was five percent. We asked that question of positive negative or neutral in multiple ways over forty questions because how you ask a question you'll get a different response. We've been asked that question for the different types of non human intelligence of that people are realizing, for example, the energy being was the number one type of being not the short grays. Fifty five percent of the people had encounters with energy beings out of those only seven percent, said that, that experience is mainly negative. The human looking was fifty two percent only five percent. It was mainly negative. The short grays fifty. One percent of the people had experiences with short grays only eleven percent, said that their experiences were negative. In fact, twenty nine billion. Let me go through the different categories. Okay. The ghosts in the spirit forms were forty seven percent. Forty six percent said it was positive Semper sent seven percent negative forty percent forty seven percents that it was neutral. Okay. Now, let's get down a couple of different types of beings now to the reptilians, okay. We had six hundred. Let me the categories the energy being was thousand three hundred and five human looking thousand one hundred ninety five the short grays thousand one hundred seventy three. The ghosts spirits thousand and sixty nine the toll raise seven hundred seventy the reptilians were six hundred forty four and the insect toy demented beings were five hundred eighty three. So now let's focus on the resilience okay? Six hundred forty four people had seen them huge numbers out of those six hundred forty four people seventeen percent, said that their experiences was positive twenty three percents stated that their experiences were negative and sixty percent said that their experiences were neutral. Now when we turn to face three where people were asked to write out the details of their contact experiences. We looked at the people that had resilient contact experiences out of those twenty three percent that said it was mainly negative. We looked at what they wrote out, and it wasn't that these were, you know, raping their spouse in eating their children, and that Barack Obama was ripped till you know what it was was the untie. The logical shock of the physicality of that being you had these beings, that would describe as seven to eight feet tall four hundreds of five hundred pounds like these massive football players on steroids with a crocodile head lizard is and greenish, brownish, greenish color. And so when people had these beans, most of the time, almost all the time, they just stared and looked at them. Okay with okay bit. Right. Hold on this. I don't know I'm gonna keep because I this is a total paradigm shift for ninety nine percent of people out there. I don't care how much studied you photos. I don't care how on the cutting edge, you think you are of conspiracy all news, whatever this is a total paradigm shift for everyone. So, like I told you the beginning, you know, I did this whole thing on the what I think was the fake you off. Oh disclosure, but it's a real disclosure in December two thousand seventeen New York Times Leslie Cain header on talked about it. New York Times. Oh, gosh. They really dug into this. Oh, we understood it. And then if finally makes it breaks through Fox News. I just want you to step back in now realize what we're asking people to do what we're asking people to do is take that leap to say, okay, well, then somebody has to study what's going on in. Here's a guy who studied it and he studied, it scientifically. And now let's. Talk about his findings in, we're talking about fricken reptilians versus grays versus spirit, beings and were comparing income trusting the numbers of the percentage of people who said they had this kind of contact or that kind of contact, I think we need another way to kind of step back in let people absorb what's going on here in what it would even mean to start asking these questions, I wanna get to having a level three discussion with you talk about the stuff that really interests me that the cross correlates with what I'm finding out about people who are deeply studying spirituality in near death experiences in non dual experiences. I don't wanna force those questions, we don't have to get there, but I do want to kind of take the audience and take all of us a big step back in realize the world. World were entering where we're going to start talking about these things in a real way because we have to it's the most important thing we can talk about. So back to the reptilians, lemme interject a skeptical kind of question because there are a lot of accounts of reptilians having forced sexual contact with people. They may not be in the hundreds of thousands or even the hundreds, but there are those accounts we have to take them seriously. We can't jam those back into what we normally understand as a spiritual positive contact experience of any kind, whether it, we're talking about ET, contact experience or just general contact experience someone having forced sexual relationships with people in our society with our morality. We say no that shouldn't happen. And yet that is occurring. So I'm okay with your finding because you've convey. Vince me that you've done the work. But the outlying data is interesting to me, is, well, it's like the hellish, indie ease, they may not be a large number, but they're interesting as an outlying piece of information. So what about the sex with only four individuals stated that out of the six hundred forty four. People are you suggesting that they did not accurately report, what happened. Not saying that I'm just saying only for individuals reported. So. How would we understand that in the larger context of what we're talking about in terms of contact modalities? What is in this extended consciousness realm, this advanced intelligence realm, that is doing that in a way that we would possibly understand. Well, this is we're sort of jumping the gun on a couple of additional out components here. But what I believe is happening is that non human intelligence can encompass different forms for different reasons, just like in shamanic experiences, many people described that they're, you know, physically being torn torn into pieces the being rebuilt. Again, a lot of people experienced like death, and rebirth numerous times in many paranormal experiences on cinetic type of journeys. I think there's a reason for of these experiences of people are having and. And this is where I'm heading towards eighty five percent of these individuals have undergone a dramatic positive transformation of their personality profile. Dr Kenneth ring had asked these questions. He had asked close to sixty questions 'how were you before? How were you after and we do placated his research findings because he had roughly eighty five percent of both the end evokes and the you'll fi you of Okon TEK, folks. Underwent a total personality change was like a butterfly came out of a out of this Koon, and the Coon is experience that people were having people became much more spiritual less religious. They no longer feared us, they became more empathic more loving to their brethren. They became ecologically of friendly, all of a sudden, the became more consciously aware, etc. Cetera et cetera. It was totally rebirth of knew personality. We discovered that eighty five percent of these people. Made that transition over lengthy, periods of time now as I said before in the beginnings thirty seven percent of the individuals initially viewed their experiences as negative. Okay. But towards the end only five percent viewed their experiences mainly negative, even the people have had a duck. Sion's only thirty percent a coal themselves up duct. But even then the most negative type of updates was like less than than eight percent. So is this traumatic transition that takes place of the individual? So I think these experiences are people having with these entities of these are being utilized by non human Tajan to stimulate responses thoughts reactions for the people have had the most negative experiences are the people. We determine we did an analysis of how many experiences you've had and we group them like from from one to two to three. Three to five and then five to ten ten to fifteen fifteen to twenty then more than twenty and what we discovered we did a bar chart on this. We discovered the more experiences, you had the more positive was your outlook of the positivity outlook became much more positive in your responses. And there was a people that only had one or two experiences in particular, the people had objection experiences that they were frozen on the table be medically examined, and that's all they had. That's all they can remember. Those are the people most traumatized because right? Yes. Let me jump in there with a Amna jump right ahead said in and get into a couple of skeptical questions because this is the rubber meets the road. I love everything you're saying it's, it's vital that you're doing this research is vital. But it's also we have this advanced kind of level, three dialogue, because no one else is having it. This the next two findings discussed the initial, too, which is that these were overwhelmingly positive experiences, number two it result in positive transformation of the experience. Number three, and four is that these experiences were primarily, not physical. They will primarily paranormal that was number three number four, is that these experiences involve a manipulation of space time. And that in turn leads the hypotheses at these experiences might be entered a mental and Jack Belay alluded to that over forty five years ago of the manipulation space-time component. So I think with the, the paranormal versus the being primarily paranormal, not physical and then the manipulate space time, then we can begin to get into some interesting discussions. My concern is that we're still despite as far as you were advancing the ball and you're advancing the ball way, down the field that we're still. Filling this big consciousness question with a bunch of a sumptuous, and maybe we can't help but do that. And maybe I don't have any way out of that. But my role of skeptical inquiry to perpetuate doubt in the Nettie, Nettie Nettie, not this not this is to kinda constantly poke and point at the, the kind of contradictions I'm going to interview in just a couple of weeks with a guy who's very prominent near death experience researcher, he's also a Christian, and he comes at he's, he's solid guy. Very open minded guy. But he takes the near death. Experience accounts of people who've had direct experiences with Jesus. I always want to turn that into you mean Christ consciousness, because it isn't Jesus, right? It's at this spiritual dimension. And then there's this discussion about no, you might say that technically, but here the holes in his hands in here this and here's the experience that people have had with Jesus. And then you get into the discussion the histoy. Will. What do you do with that information? Do you deny that someone is head and experience with Jesus? Or is it my definition of Christ consciousness no matter which way you turn on that Ray, you are kind of stumped because we don't understand the nature in the origin of that experience. And here's what makes it even more difficult. We like, for example, we like the near death experience, because it has some kind of medical jumping off point a neurological jumping off point that has an acknowledged mystery the brain is functioning at a time when the brain is not supposed to be functioning, and they're having this extraordinary experience. So we can shut up all the neuroscientist say nine on, on, on that don't say anything because you don't have any way to explain how they had this experience. So now I can begin talking about that experience. But as soon as we talk about that experience we wind up in these kind of contradictions. Wasn't Jesus was it not Jesus, if this guy found Jesus when he's dead? What about this person? And found Jesus when they're praying church. And then what about this survey that says it's really not about Jesus. So I'll stop there. That's one but then I'm gonna jump over in a minute and talk about the interview I just did with the very excellent. Dr Geoffrey Martin who's gone and talked to and done his own work with people who've tried to connect directly with consciousness by using kind of the best of the best techniques of meditation and psychology to remove the mind from this noise e brain, that's going on. And what his findings are in how it's really not even as it. It's problematic. No matter which way we turn. So I've thrown a lot on the table. But we can start right there with Jesus impossible to pull that apart without understanding at a level beyond what we could possibly understand the nature of consciousness. That's where. Okay. Let me give you my personal hypotheses. Okay. And this is based upon me. Speaking, almost on a daily basis with you of Okon experiencers, and these experiences why they might have seen a UFO, and while they might have seen a few, quote unquote beings, not human intelligence. The vast majority of their reality are paranormal in nature. Okay. And let me give you a couple of illustrations than the conclusion or the hypotheses that I've arrived at okay on spoken with numerous PC's that are experiencers, one of my best friends here in Miami. I consider the number one contact in the world, his life of the last forty years is basically living in another reality. His wife is the piece de psychologists his daughters appears psychologists. He's a retired federal DA agent. Okay. And he's just unleash an illustration. Several weeks ago, I spoke with a pediatrician the lives in a mid western state and, again, this woman as seen non-intelligence huge foes. With her husband, she's had a major near death experience that outside of space time. And she said, it was almost seemed like an eternity that she was away auto body experiences, but it was mainly a living a life of paranormal experiences on these are just 'lustration of, like hundreds of people that I've spoken with, but also the people that have taken our surveys. Okay. And that was the third major finding is that these experiences are primarily not physical. They primarily paranormal, enable unconsciousness related getting now let me separate the two components. Okay. And these are just illustrative. He I've had people that he and his wife, both high level professionals with advanced degrees, have seen Gunesh. Okay. All the people and other with several witnesses have seen a, a Nubia the, the gyp shin God with the dog. Okay. And you name the type of entity people are seeing, okay, we're talking about thousands of different types of, of entities. Okay. So to myself, you know, one way of thinking it is, well Gunesh came from whatever reality initial lives that interacts with he came to have give this experience. So this person. Okay. This other person my best friend, here has seen Christ several times a couple of times, you know, with the, the wounds, this is a physical being you know that appeared to him. He seemed the Virgin Mary yet. He's not Catholic role has rarely ever been in a Catholic church has no background in Catholicism. Okay. And, and so you say to yourself, you know, are all these people seeing all of these different types of beings. Do they really exist or many experiencers have spoken that these intelligence can masquerade in different formats, for specific reasons for teachings the to demonstrate whatever objective? There is. Okay. And that's the hypotheses that I have that whatever this non human intelligence. We have zero data for that, though, we have zoo, we can't even come up with a decent hypothesis for how that would work or two separate how it would work in this case in that case, you know, it's like when I talk to dean, raid, who I have the utmost respect for in, but he admits himself he's new to this whole idea of spiritual realms in a year ago, if you would even ask them about spirit, he would kind of chuckled, bind his breath. There's no such thing. So once we enter that realm. Oh, I'm afraid we're filling the vacuum with a bunch of assumptions. What where I think we're at is at the point of acknowledging that this is a dimension that we cannot understand dealing Raden is not going to be able to pull it back in his lab and measure it actually he is. He's going to pull it back in measure it in his lab. But the results. He's going to get are all going to be highly suspect. Because we have no way of understanding, the nature of that reality, and the same thing. I don't know what, how Jesus exists on that other dimension. But I am not willing to say that there isn't that reality or to reduce it down and kind of in reduce it down to thing of saying, well, that's just the way they appear to kind of teacher this of that. I don't buy it because other piece of data that I do have the comes back. I don't know. And I'm gonna throw this out because I'd be interested to see because this is something you just related to near death experience there. Have you ever heard of Dr PM h at waters those? Yes. Okay. Important work. One of the few people who said, hey, you know what this near death experience transformational spiritual experience? It ain't all roses and rainbows. These people go through. Oppression. They go through alienate they go through divorce. They have a hard time both reconciled their experience with their worldly experience, but they especially have a hard time reconcilable at with their family in their group. Now you jump over to Dr Geoffrey Martin, this comprehensive world changing research, on a non duality in persistent, non to -ality consciousness. You know, meditation a enlightenment for a word sane thing, don't think you're going to be enlightened and you might feel this incredible inner peace. But don't think it's gonna make your life better. 'cause you're liable to get divorced lose your job, lose all your friends, and all the rest of that, because they're not on board with it. So, you know, there's these once we enter this discussion, this important discussion that we have to have we have two ways of measuring. One is the impacted has on us that we can talk about, like you're gonna lose your job. You're fifty fifty percent more likely to get a divorce. If you have any e transformational experience, I don't know if that's exact number, but it's it's kinda high and the same thing if you have enlightenment experience, same thing. I don't know what it is. So we can measure that and we can talk about that, but we can't talk about people and their encounter, with Jesus just like we can't really talk about their counter with the reptilians. We just don't know the order in nature of that extended consciousness, Rome, correct? Correct. I agree with everything that you've said, same thing happens with you of Okon, tucked experiencers as world shattering paradigm of the reality, and that does affect their family relationship their jobs, their businesses their, their world view. But what you have is that you're being is being totally deconstructed and reformatted again. And because of that, you lose your. Friends, you might lose a spouse relationship. Okay. But at the end of it all you're on your own hero's journey, it seems like for many the visuals because you are a your experiences. You've had these realities. You cannot deny it. Okay, but there are numerous consequences associated, but in terms of your inner self your inner being of who you are this tremendous positive transformation that results from that. So it's, it's, it's a dualistic process here is like you being deconstructed, but you're being built up again. And again, it takes time for that building up again, a process now in terms of the nature of the phenomenon aunt, my perspective in the perspective of many members of our board, including Edgar in Rudy is that we are just starting to understand what questions to ask. A let alone what answers okay because we're now starting to understand through this. Data and be able to see the contact modalities in a more holistic way that this is so freaking complex. Okay. 'cause we're dealing with multidimensional realities were dealing with women relations of space time, we're dealing with so many comparative aspects of these phenomena, that are so similar, we're dealing with non human intelligence. We're dealing with a whole multitude of non human intelligence that. I remember when Jeffrey Michelle asked jock Vallejo. Thirty five years ago, these complex questions, Jack flay did not directly respond to that the Michelle's questions what he said, you know, Jeffrey what, what I gather is that we just don't undestand space time. Okay. Alluding to that, that these the phenomenon involvement manipulation of space time. And we just don't understand space time. We don't understand multiple realities. We don't understand whatever this intelligences. We, we still can't get a handle on how it interacts with space time in and multidimensional realities of the spirit world, you know, other universes. Whatever these are all issues that which is starting to understand that they exist, but we have. No, we're totally clueless as to how it's all put together, and it'll take several generations because before we get. To have a better understanding. But at least what we're doing in our organization in our research study is that we are dent of authentic buying these aspects, these questions when before no one was asking these questions. I mean, oh, true. Yeah. It's like look at nuts and bolts Ufology there you go to all of these major. You phone conferences. They're still talking about that Tom the long group or that the secret space program that man who just retired from the CIA that was in charge of, of you, your research. We're talking about Roswell for the five thousand time rental Schimdt forest. Oh, here's a new video is gonna come out of this of this a jet fighter. You know. So my question is, what has that paradigm, giving us in seventy years in my response is very limited will, let me ask that question a different way, who? Who has controlled that the questions who's controlled the, the creation of that paradigm and the rollout of that. And so, you know, I love the way you put that. And we are totally on the same page rate and thank God, you were out there on that edge doing that work. One other way that I was just alluding to that. I think we can't connect this to the real world and away. That's important is an love the term conspiracy theory, because it mmediately creates this knee-jerk reaction to people when if you go, and look at who created the term conspiracy theory who created into this derogatory term, that anyone who questions any kind of thority. So, you know, the miss info this info aspect of this has to be understood the history of the UFO movement of the UFO conference of the UFO disclosure is a history of misinformation in distant. Information some of it's been outed. So, you know, when you go to contact in the desert, which you're doing presentation, and, and you're doing presentation at all these other high level UFO conferences, fantastic. Gotta get that information out there. But, you know, there's missing fo- disinform stuff going on there. So how are we supposed to in this might be the question to wrap it up because you've been? So generous your time, how do we understand that aspect of it, and more importantly, how do you navigate that going forward with your research, and not allow that to be tainted in that way driving? Somebody else's agenda, rather than the truth agenda, which is what I know. You're really all about. It's a, that's a very difficult question. Because by nature, a very emotional person, I grew up in New York City, a working class, you know, neighborhood actually, right outside New York City in west. New York New jersey of a factory town working class neighborhood. You had a, you know, you're always questioning things and you become your very emotional. And so for me is extremely frustrating, because I also utilize those terms I used to do it publicly of the terms misinformation, disinformation. Now, I don't do it publicly anymore, but I view the field of Ufology, mainstream materialists, you follow G is basically a I shouldn't be saying, but I'll say what the hell as a cesspool of misinformation and disinformation, and what it needs as we need to get some disinfectant via academic research on this phenomenon which illustrates that this phenomenon is so much more complex than what any of these material, rush, lists thou might even speculate it to be. And it's a long term agenda. Long-term goal. But I think what we need to be able to do is people like yourself like Jeffy mich- love Dr. Bob davis. You know, Rudy seals Edgar that had just passed away in many, many of the people that are interested in this relationship between trying to understand what is the relationship between consciousness are multidimensional reality and contact with non human intelligence via the contact modalities. We don't have any answers. We're totally clueless as to this relationship. We all I puff assizes speculate that there is that relationship there. And that's what we need to keep on prying. You know, for the rest of our lives, so that the next generation will have a much firm of or firmer foundation than what I encountered, which is basically you go to the internet. And you get BS. You know, you go to follow g conferences. And when I go to these uniform conference, I don't listen to these lectures, Alex, I basically hang out with the spirit, there's because they have the kernel of truth. Of what really's happening the experiencers, and I always say to everyone, I said, look, don't be waiting for disclosure to happen from the top down because this closures happening right now from the bottom up from the experiences. And I think as long as we are able to really be continued to educate humanity of this phenomenon and to do comparative research studies of how're end ease related to obese how they related to you of, oh, contact expresses, what are the similarities with remote viewing the people that are seeing ghosts and spirits in channeling, how is all of this phenomenon interrelated, if we continue pushing that on blow, I think, is going to be heading towards a bedroom. The standing of our reality, which at this point, we're totally clueless. That's maybe an awesome way to kind of turn the corner this interview Ray you have so many things going on. I mentioned your presentation, Ed contact in the desert yells. A volume two of the book coming out other book projects tell folks what's coming out right now, and then how they can stay on top of this important stuff. A website and the title of the website is consciousness and contact dot org. My Email if people want to reach me is info at experienced dot org. Info at experience dot walk. We do have available chapter one from our first, Brooke beyond you a foes. The science of consciousness in contact with non human intelligence chapter one, which is over one hundred twenty pages which is a summary of artistic research study. That's free for the public. We also have several other chapters, we have available for free. One is chapter on medical healings. We identified fifty percent of the people took our survey have had a medical healing, and that chapter of the analysis of that data was written by Dr Joseph Burks, who believe you met. He's retired. Emergency room position and was also jointly written by Preston. Then it who just came out with a new book on three hundred cases of medical healings by you affoil related non-human Intel. So it's a valid phenomenon fully documented, but yet is not discussed at these conferences, or in the field of you following. So that's a consciousness in contact or download these chapters as well as the conclusion to our chap, our book written by the late Brad Steiger, which is really the father of paranormal research, for those that don't know, Brad Steiger is written over goodness, two hundred books on various topics within the paranormal phenomenon and he passed away, right before we publish our book. He actually wrote that chapter believe in hospice care. And, and then we working on two new projects one project is scientific documentary, which is going to be focusing on the paranormal contact modalities, and it's going to be presenting various scientific theories, mainly physics theories and some psychological theories. Of, of the paranormal contact modalities and data from our research study end commentary from many experiences, besides researchers we're going to have Raymond moody. They're Jeffrey long. Dr Bob Davis, Jeffrey mich- off. Dr John Alexander in many, many, many other scientists Dr Gary Schwartz that we've interviewed of the last two years. And then the other project is ten gentle project to the documentary, which, which is a hypothetical book and extremely important. This book is really much more important than our first book, because what this book is as follows in the way this topic was introduced was that was having a conversation with Dr John Cleo. And John was a, a tenured professor of psychology for forty five years, mainly focusing on the paranormal he's written books about Andy ease obese is most famous book is on channel. Wing. He's written numerous articles on, on consciousness, the paranormal I mean, this man is an example of research on the contact modalities and consciousness. So John, about two years ago had surgery for a brain cancer. And now he's a much much better. But when he recovered, I asked him, I said, look, John, you know before you, you transitioned, okay? I want you to write an article on, on this thesis question, what is the relationship between consciousness are Kuzma and contact with non human intelligence via a unified, contact modalities, okay? Because I had spoke with so many parapsychologists. So many of the people that you have interviewed dean rate in for examples, a key example, and I would ask him, I said, looking do suspect, that all of these paranormal, contact, modalities might be interrelated says, yes. As. Says, well, have you read any article on that he says, no has anyone else written article about that says, not that I know of, but why not insists the key, fundamental question? We're dealing with and his response was that, look you know, my plate is full ready dealing with ESP, you know, and, and, and his work on a precondition and, and the work that he's been doing at ions for many years. His plate is full, let alone try to introduce other complicated topics. And I've spoken with many, many other researchers Stanley krizner as well. And many, many other parapsychologists Jeffrey mich- office. Well, so I asked John, I said, look, you know, would it be possible for you to write an article that would be a hypothetical article speculative article as the what the hell is in your brain? What is your best, ipods it as what the hell is going on? Okay. And he agreed to so then immediately said, why my limiting it just John, why don't I ask? To Bob Davis. What am I ask it to you? Why don't I ask it to Jean dean Raden Jeffrey long, Raymond moody, you know, so many of these people involved in, in these paranormal experiences. Ask question is can you write a chapter, which is a speculative chapter? What is your best? Guess of how will this is interrelated how was put together, you know? Well, again very important. The thesis statement, what is the relationship between consciousness are 'cause Molly and contact with non human intelligence via a unified, paranormal contact modalities Rudy's writing an article for it, and so many other people. And so, I believe that, that book is going to be extremely important because you're going to be getting the hypotheses the best hypotheses of these great minds that I've been working on this central fanatic topic question most for over thirty years, so. Like getting. All right. Dean, what is your best shot as to what the hell's going on? And that is due in the spring due to be published in the spring of twenty twenty and it's going to be an extremely important book. And, and what I tell everyone, we are establishing a new paradigm, a new paradigm of reality, and the beginning, very few people are going to understand it. It's gonna be totally dismissed certainly by the field of mainstream Ufology, most of mainstream, Andy experiencers, a certainly the consciousness studies, scholars, etc. Etc. Etc. But what it's gonna do is gonna stop a baseline for future discussions over multiple generations because we're establishing a new paradigm. Well that is absolutely sounds like the right thing at the right time. I'm not surprised and if there's anyone who can bravely launch. Onto a new paradigm. It's you. Mr. Ray Hernandez. You've just done such incredible work. We could go on and on. And we've had some great off Eric conversations as well. I think your work has tremendous, but your energy that you put behind this. And the bravery that you've shown in kind of launching into this is just truly amazing. Is there anything else we need to talk about before I let you go get on with your normal life while I just wanna thank you, personally, Alex, because when I first had my conversation with you, I was still traumatized by all of these experiences. I'm sure you probably knew at that time talking to me. I was literally in, in the middle of Onta, logical shock of dealing with this reality. And once I managed to get a better understanding of this phenomenon that indeed, it was consciousness base, and that consciousness was the key toll of this. We can have a much more additional discussions later on this topic. Of conscious which we fully get into. But you were one of the people that I turn to that really helped me out to edge to educate me. So I wanna tell all the audience members out there that indeed are interested in the paranormal contact modalities and its relationship with consciousness to keep on tuning into your podcast because there are so extremely informative and I just wanna thank you. Nice. You ray. I appreciate it. You know, I think even though I'm not an experience in the sense that you have. Oh, experiencers or non human contact experience. Although I don't know about that. You know, there's a certain connection that we all have of that feeling of feeling a little less alienated. When someone does reach out, and I remember when you reached out to me that wasn't my thought. My thought was, hey, terrific, man. There's somebody else who's in the process of going through this waking up transfer. Mational thing. And he seems like such a credible cool guy. I want to connect and talk to this guy. So that's why encourage anyone who's out there who has a similar kind of experience. You have made it easier. Hopefully I've made it easier to, but you've taken that a giant step forward and take terms of making it easier for people to we hate to say advanced, but that's what you're saying. And that's what I'm saying. You know, this is the hero's journey like you're saying we're just all trying to help each other on that journey. Stephanie, thank you. Alex, take care of friend. God bless you. Thanks again, to Ray Hernandez, soon to be Dr Ray Hernandez, this guy, you believe it or not. I mean he's working on a PHD from Berkeley to go along with his master's degree from Cornell and his juris doctorate practicing lawyer. This is one smart guy, and a hard working guy who's put an incredible amount of effort into this very, very important work. I can't emphasize enough hustled -nificant. This contribution is to our overall understanding of what I keep calling the extended consciousness realm. Are we could just call consciousness if we want? So the question that falls out of that is a natural on. And it's a big one. What does he have to do with our understanding of human consciousness? And wow. There's so many ways to take that. And I'm tempted to jump in there and outline them all. But I'm not going to do that on a leave that. For you. And I hope you take a stab at it. And if you want to share that with me skeptical form, is where I hang out with folks, and chat about these ideas. So you can find me over there, of course, you can always Email me, or try and track me down on Facebook, or However, I just always assize that I enjoy connecting with people who connect with this show. So if that's you take the leap and reach out, and I will reach back sure to check out the skeptical website over four hundred shows all their vailable for you to download for free. You can follow my entire journey over, however many years, it's been through all these interviews on these deep questions of who are we why are we here? And what does this thing called consciousness have to do with it all, please check it out? And until next time take care. Here and bye for now.
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