21 Burst results for "Bob Arum"
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"For me, the cornerstone of the hagler story is that he was a guy who wanted fame, he wanted that kind of fame that comes to great fighters. But when he finally got it, it made him uncomfortable. And he realized, wow, I've been fighting for this for so long. And now I've got it and I don't really like it. You know, that's a big thing. Fame doesn't suit everybody. It looks good from the outside. But when you get a sample of it, it doesn't suit everybody. And it didn't suit hagler. I think he liked to party because the stress of his career was starting to weigh down on him. And his marriage was starting to crumble. And he was, you know, really caught between a lot. He was being pulled in a lot of directions. You know, do I save my marriage? Do I try to ride out this fame thing that now is coming to me? He was cold, a lot of different directions. No one had prepared him for that, you know? The petronelle didn't know how to deal with fame. They've never had a famous fighter. They didn't know how to coach him in that, you know? They could coach him to fight. But they were just a couple of guys from Brockton. They didn't know anything about fame, really. And they were his father figures, you know, in a lot of ways. So even if he had questions about fame, you know, what could they tell him? You know, whereas other trainers, you know, they have a couple of famous fighters. They can develop a sense of how to deal with it. Hagler was really a very basic guy, a very working class, basic guy, I mean, at one point, he was trying to get a job with the city's water company, you know, reading water meters. That was, you know, that was the kind of guy he was. He was just a working guy. So that, to me, that's the hagler story. It was that he wanted fame and then when he got it, he didn't like it so much. There's so much more in this book, the kronk Jim element to it Emmanuel Stewart hearns end up liking hearns more unless you're like, look, did the hardcore hearns fans have always been out there and but I liked him more after this. I wasn't necessarily anti hearns, but I remember being a younger kid and thinking all this guy just gets knocked out all the time. And then he had the jaw alignment thing. There's a lot of really great stuff in this book about a fight that some of our listeners are maybe learning about for the first time or the book is a gift of the father who's seen this thing. That's how I was introduced to it. My dad and I watching it all the time together. I watch it probably once or twice a year. I love it that much. So I watched a lot while I was working on the book and I'm glad you mentioned that about hearns because I feel like that was one of my missions in the book was to get people to remember Tommy hearns, you know, as not just the guy who lost this fight, but in a way, he made the fight. You know, he made the fight as good as it was. And he was a very interesting character. And I think people have forgotten exactly how important his career was, you know, he was a staple of that period. And it's an interesting period, too. That was another mission I had in writing the book, because I wanted people to realize there was a lot going on in boxing at that time. The sport was changing. The rounds were cut down to 12. The gloves were slightly different. The coverage was different. Pay per view was starting to become important. And the closed circuit was starting to become something of the past. It was a lot of things were developing, changing, it was really interesting time in the sport. I appreciate your work on this Don. It's terrific. Again, the book, the war, dawn strategy. Thank you. Very lucky to have the legendary promoter bob arum with us on the podcast again..
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"Minutes are unlike anything you're ever going to see. Wild bird. Wow, what a shock. And it was hammer who initiated it. Another right. That one's been hurt. The pace of that first round, it looks like hagler's cut. It looks like he's in trouble. On the other side and things for hearns was always criticized for his jaw. He takes two, I was watching it again this morning. He takes two flush lefts where he doesn't even move off of his feet, was a remarkable that he's able to hold up. As you watch it, again, as you research that round for this book, what are some of the best stories that observations of all the people involved in really what was boxing history? Well, what I like hearing is that the reaction to everybody along press row after the first round ended. I was talking to Steve morantz, who covered the fight for The Boston Globe. And he said, you know, most of the time, the round ends and, you know, you talk to the other reporters you kid around. You say, who do you want? Who do you think one that round, you know? He said, after the first round of hagler and everybody was just spellbound. No, they couldn't believe what they'd seen. They were in talking to each other, you know? Once in a while, you'd look at somebody and your eyes would be, and it would just be disbelief. Like, what the hell just happened? You know, so I love hearing just the effect it had on people. You know, one guy was saying, I wished around what end because I thought I was gonna have a heart attack, you know? It was so intense. And another thing that's interesting is almost every everyone I spoke to said to compare it to the film or the video that you saw later it didn't seem like the same fight. You know, it was kind of like, you couldn't keep your eyes on it, you know, as the action was going on, if you were in, you know, the arena. If you were in the press room, trying to keep your eye on it. You couldn't do it. You couldn't follow the action. It was almost too frenetic, you know? And I've covered a lot of fights, and I know that there is something exaggerated that happens when you when you're in the front row and you're watching these guys, box and get hit, sometimes the action slows down almost. Sometimes it speeds up. It's very odd. I'm sure there's a scientific reason for it. You know, I'm sure there's some professor somewhere who can give you the word for the way things look in real life as opposed to the way they look on videotape later. But I've seen fights where I swear that this guy is out on his feet and his, you know, his eyes are rolling in the back of his head and he's about to go down. But then when I see the video replay, a week later on showtime or something. It doesn't look so bad. You know, it just happens to go by real quick. And I'm thinking, boy, when I saw it live, it was a lot more intense than what I'm seeing here, you know? So if you can imagine what it was like to be in Las Vegas on the night of hagler hearns, the fact that it may have actually been more intense than what we see on the video. That's amazing. Yeah, it seems it seems hard to believe. Yeah, yeah, but quite a few people said that. It was just not, you know, twice as intense live. Because it was unexpected. I still couldn't believe that the energy that both fighters had after fighting at that pace for the three minutes and then still some of the punches that were thrown at the very end. You're like, there's still these guys are not exhausted yet. So we go to the second and hearns obviously knocked out in the third with a series of right hands from hagler, but the story that you point out and you can see something.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"Every city. And it was it became almost like a vaudeville tour or a theatrical tour where they'd stop at each city and insult each other. And I remember it was kind of funny. You'd pick up the newspaper, wandering, oh, I wonder where they are today. You know, are they in Texas? Are they in Washington? Where are they today? What do they say, you know? And you would get reports of what was going on in each city, you know? It was really unprecedented. And at the time, the press kind of thought it was silly. They were thinking, why is there so much pipe going on about these two guys who frankly are not superstars? You know, this was not Muhammad Ali. It was not real letter. It was two guys who were really a little bit lower down the ladder as far as stardom. So the press was kind of scratching their collective heads saying, you know what, why is there so much press about this? So you had you had these conflicting reports. Looking back on it, some people love this tour. They thought oh, it was great. They were going to every city. Raising interest in the fight. But then you had other critics Alain montville, one of my favorite writers who wrote for The Boston Globe at the time. He just couldn't stand it, you know? He was saying, why are these two guys talking? So damn much. You know, have we ever heard you guys talk so much about one fight, you know? Every day it was going on. And in a way, it worked out. It was a gamble that bob arum put out there that if he just kept reminding people about this fight, they might buy a ticket or they might they might go see it at their local theater on close circuit, you know. It was a gamble, and it paid off. And I say in the book, I think it was Aaron's shining hour that he put this together. And made it work. He probably disagrees. He probably thinks other fights that he did. They made more money or received even more publicity. But from my point of view, my perspective, when you're working with hagler, who was not an instant ticket seller and to turn it into the kind of event that it became that's magnificent. That's a great promotional strategy. We're in Vegas. It's the lead up to the fight, you've got the petronella is out of Brockton in an old school gym with hagler and then you've got the herons entourage from Detroit. Compare those two approaches to lead up to the actual fight. Well, by now, you know, you have to remember that both guys, they were rich athletes at this point. So the temptation to be pampered was there. But hagler ended up going to Johnny tacos Jim in Las Vegas, which was this broken down old place that had been around for years and it was the kind of place where fighters went to kind of rejuvenate themselves 'cause it was so scrappy, so bottom line that, you know, you had no distractions. It was just one broken down old ring. And I think a telephone. That was it. One of those old telephones on the wall, you know, and no air conditioning. It was always a 100° in there, you know, it was really like the Stone Age. And hagler and the petronelli camp, they loved this place. And it was just, you know, paddler and a couple of sparring partners doing the dirty work. And he was training for a very intense fight where he just wanted to steamroll overhears. That was his whole strategy. It wasn't that he went crazy at the bell and charged out. He was working on that kind of fight to just keep coming forward and keep hearns moving back. Because the theory was that hearns couldn't do anything if he was backing up. He needed to have his feet planted. So that's what they were working on. And Johnny tacos, this decrepit little gym hearns, meanwhile, herns kind of liked that Las Vegas atmosphere. So he was training in these glittery surroundings that I believe the hotel set up for him in one of the ballrooms in the hotel. So there was a chandelier, you know, and they were statues and, you know, exotic lighting and it invited audience could come in and watch Tommy train, you know? And it was really like a medius circus where Tommy was. But I think it distracted her and a little bit and there was an argument. And I mentioned it briefly in the book that turns like that environment because it kept a light, it was better for him because it kept him kind of, you know, distracted and loose. Because, you know, you don't want to be locked in a room, thinking about, you know, I'm going to fight Marvin Hagler and three days or whatever. You want to be loose, you want to be able to walk around among the people and that's what Tommy likes to do. There's an argument that he should have isolated himself a bit more and been a little more focused. But the argument is who's to say blocking himself away would have been any better with the fight be any different if he had been, you know, like a monk, like hagler, you know, and just being deadline focused, you know, Tommy was Tommy. That's the way he always worked. He likes to be loose, he likes to joke around. And 9 times out of ten, it worked perfectly for him, you know? He had an excellent career with that kind of lighthearted approach..
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"His name had a little more clout at the box office. But he was considered inconsistent almost flighty. Unreliable. Sometimes he could be really dynamic, obviously. We remember a lot of those old clips of him knocking out opponents of Pinot quavers and Roberto Duran. We remember those clips of him being so devastating, but it wasn't like that all the time. He had a lot of problems with his right hand. He was all so a bit eccentric. He had become one of those characters who likes to collect rare animals, you know, and a lot of cars, so people looked at him as a bit of a weird character who could be great. That was always the impression. Was that hernes could be great. But he wasn't there yet. And he had lost against ray Leonard. In 81, so there was a feeling about her and said, you know, he wasn't quite there yet. Even though his name was higher than hagler's at the time, he was considered unreliable inconsistent. So Aaron wants to put together this first version of the fight. Take us through the first stage of when this fight almost happened. Because again, based on the timeline of the book, we're talking about almost four years prior to when the real fight did take place. Oh, yeah, well, it was mostly herds who was pushing for it in that first that first time. He had just lost a Leonard and he was kind of desperate to regain his status. And he was a welterweight, but he thought, if I fight hagler and beat hagler, that will make up for losing to ray Leonard. So he was really the one who started talking about it before anyone else. At the time, hagler would fight anybody. He just wanted to fight and make money. He didn't care if it was her and her Leonard or whoever. He just wanted to fight and get notice. Get some recognition. Hearns was really counting on it. But he, again, he injured his hand in training. Had a some kind of a problem with his pinky and his wrist, and there were all sorts of problems. There were also problems with the location. Hearns wanted to do it near Detroit, it almost ended up in Canada, Las Vegas didn't want it. They thought, neither one of these guys is a big enough draw, which, you know, it probably sounds strange now that we put these guys on pedestals as these great heroic figures from the past, but at the time, Las Vegas said, no, nobody knows who hagler is. You know, we can't put him in a main event, you know? So it almost ended up in Canada in 1982. But hearns, a lot of mysterious things were going on behind the scenes. I tried to learn as much about it as I could. But ultimately, the fight fell apart, they blamed the official word was they couldn't decide on a location. I think there were a lot of other factors going on. Possibly earns realized it was a bad idea. Because he was still a welterweight and a thin welterweight. So maybe he had decided it was a bad idea. Later, a manual Stewart hearns his trainer said he canceled it. Because he didn't think the timing was right, you know. But ultimately, who knows? I don't think anybody really has the answer. I'm sure top rank has their answer, the earns people had their answer. The hagler people and not many of them are around. I'm sure they had their answer, you know. So it was a mystery. Yeah, you're right. And it's also important to point out that hearns would be moving up, which is something he moved all over the place weight class at one point. I think he was the first guy to have four different belts and four different weight divisions back when we had less divisions. So it was actually more of accomplishments, which you do a great job of pointing out later on. But this is still a big ask for hearns at the sage, his frame. Hey, he's going to move up to middleweight. Hagler was fine with it. So the fight actually finally gets made, all right? So what's going to happen in Vegas? It's going to happen outside and Caesars. It's also going to be in a Monday, by the way, which is something that I'd forgotten. There's this promotional tour that bob arum puts together. Give us the backstory to this and how it was received. Well, it was kind of a phenomenon. You know, nowadays, you know, young fans, you can see the press conference on your phone. You know, and they only have to do one press conference now and maybe another one near the fight, you know. But back then, bob arum hit on this idea to take both fighters around the country. On private jets, each guy had his own jet, which became a story in itself. They fought over the jets. Yeah, yeah, they were arguing over the jets, you know, what hotels they would stay at. But Aaron said the fighters around the country, city by city, I think it was 21 or 24 cities in a couple of weeks. Where they would meet the.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"It you you know. He had no money. They got you to go to their hats. I gave him an experience that he will never forget. And it made my day. That was something he had been kind of the going to this guy's ads but he had performed zip guy was the wealthiest muslim and each truly it. The guy probably if he's still alive still remain beset day and maybe the girl that he was obi obi at alley would foil love with probably still alive. She would remember. Yeah that sounds that. Sounds like everything you know you've ever read about him Your is your favorite fight. The third one frazier in manila as one of the great fights will only fight. And i think it was bad because it was most intense was actor but certainly alley raised inman hill was. I'll never forget. Meeting was first valley was winning in fraser on with he gone. Knock cowley out and ali the teen rounds. This is around rally. shut up phrases. I couldn't come out fifteen drought but it was the most unbelievable fight at good. See and remember. It was in manila in the before. It was renovated araneta galaxy dot dingy.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"King looked into deal in europe. Where he got his roku is the president resigned. Am boot of To finance the fight And one of the first things they did was the ban me from zaire a ban you from going desire than snow right and i said will you go and challenge and i ain't going great. What a great. And by the way every story that i've ever read about that experience you made the right decision Give me give me something bob about you. Muhammed that may be people. Don't know on the friendship side of it because clearly you guys remained friends throughout everything. And and i you know obviously wanna ask about thriller in. Manila is well. Because i know that was a that was the fight that you've talked about. But what are the stories that you share with your close friends and family about mahama when they ask you. The funniest words is was years later when they raising funds elite and john white groundwood governor johnny. I was living in Las vegas and alliot lonnie gave the house on people there yet. You know to raise my and So john why ground spoke at.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"With these guides. I went to find together. I mean james. Friendly with them with our john alleys. Or why wouldn't i tell. What the assistant district attorney fair. The wait is that you rely on the reputation that other people have given an organization or the people in the the the impression of the nation of islam which is not saying as farrakhan's nation is i want to point out. There was a schism there. So and which i can explain but again people were saying. It's not safe you can with them. You can't be with them and so for. And if you were discerning bursts and you know listen people really known a you can judge via. So what kind of eagle you're dealing with and most not all but most of the people from that organization that i dealt with good honorable be okay so that actually leads perfectly. Because when i read anything about the contractual part of this stuff for fighters. I mean we know. Historically it's it's been very one-sided and then when you looked at like herbert's management cut and then on top everything else like how to deals. Compare the financial deals for fighters then at ollie's peak. How do they compare then to what they are now. Well what happened is When i first got his fighters were paid essentially on a percent what he presented champagne twenty percent of the challenge. What percent for the promoter of which he paid the expenses so when i Made the deal with alli Urban I changed the fifty percent champion twenty percent with the challenger earnie azan for the promoted and gave them fifty percent of the act for what is act so i shifted allowed of it of the real promoter getting much smaller percent but again when no crazy guy. No guarantees result on percent and then alley Could.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"With the put up a good i because i can beat up everybody in the. Nfl no is that he said oh gauge you at a good myths as it. Now try to try to hit me. Don't hesitate rowing best. Budget and chivas athlete is throwing punches. He can't it and finally ally looks at him. You know the big eyes and then with his opening slab like twenty nine in the base was convinced that it was a batch you meaning ali in in being around this tumultuous point his life where now no most. The country hates him. He was this heavyweight fighter that it looks like. He's got a chance to be one of the greatest and then he was gone on south degrades. He's with elijah muhammad. He split from malcolm x. He's how did you get into this. This was this group that i would think you know. How does elijah muhammad sit down with a bob arum. How does has herbert. Muhammad john ali. How these guys sit down and entrust you. Because ali liked you. Oh why. Sally likely. And i i got along with these. I was berkman. An eye color. Anybody was so you know you get along with most the and instinctively..
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"Another Jack salomon alley agree every goop. It's a fight. london. Brian london also in allie was staying at the show del inland and was We train run in the morning at high on a big expense inland. That are running track. Everything and jim will. Things was making his first movie. Which was the dirty does Inland andy. Atta pretty good role in the nets when he said to be a bobby said look is away. We could make a lot of money Why don't you join alley and arrange rallied. Thank me for every championship of the world and so naively went to allie alley. Jim jordan to me. He thinks we'd make a lot of money And he wants to meet range of by with you. He said okay so the bar on sunday as was shooting on sunday. And i'll talk to a middle. Say so jim gums. On sunday and allie says the gym. You think you could compete. Romy and aksu great. Jim says while. I don't know repeating as.
Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"bob arum" Discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo
"Ingredients that thing. I don't know i don't there's no. I don't think there's one word that can find what i could feel the blood. I can smell slip. That's when i make my best. I'm one hundred percent. The minute i i kinda sought thinking too much stopping in moving because like they say ray you lost to fight. Because you didn't like tommy. Harrah's yet the against agra we'll talk got knocked down. You can't fight hat that way. No one can just too big. He just can't do that. That's a great point. Hey so after the hagler fight in eighty seven. Now we're like oh sugar as you know what a way to go out. And there's nothing less permanent than boxers. Retirement You fought four more times from eighty eight to ninety one and then and this kind of bringing it full circle back. The ali thing you fought again in nineteen ninety seven which i can't believe. He fought ten years after the hagler fight fighters like to fight. But yet you started the interview by saying i. I didn't really wanted to do this. What goes through your mind when you go six years off. Yeah i'm in. let's go back in. Why didn't you call me and say what you should let you know. I thought you were you. Were at that stage of your career. Where the business side of it was what you were trying to do. So i kind of understood the motivations behind it and again i don't i would never tell another guy like don't go make money. You know naturally it when you at that stage in. It's its business is what happened. And it's the lure of having has raised again beating the odds all on those things come into play. I'm the eagle. Whatever you say is included in that moment because all of a sudden. I'm out of the ring and i'm not happy i mean just i don't know am i productive extremely productive. I'm all those wonderful things. But something was missing that i could not defy and it was it was just because i wanna fight hagler. It was like. I gotta come back and then after flagler fai It as a one by one fight. One bite ali with hagler. But then i just you know. He's just feel hours. Feel i can win. I always feel they're always feel. There is a way to be forgot. How much do the training for that. Camacho fight you. Fortieth fight suck With actor hex. He was my man a lot. We had great times together. You know hanging out and everything al-said by his loss But i knew gathering much as i said damn her i mean here. A camera curves. That know what was happening by dan. I to satisfy cushion my my my mental lows and psychological blows. I will start drinking. Came into cocaine was back in eighty s from cocaine. Became something to get involved with. And i was going downhill and no one. No one really told me. But by really trustful friends and s era. You know you got stop this man that that you just hurt large family. Her your friends. Japan's and you know i start. I just thought i coach stop doing cocaine. I couldn't stop age alcohol. I just stop. the cocaine. just couldn't stop the alcohol. Do you think. I always wanted to do it. Something where you know. Everybody has their own makeup right. Everybody has their own things that you know that lead to the decisions they make. But when you're at the mountaintop in the way that that you were Just just the drug is the did a truck help fill that void you know is. Is that what it is or is it just that you have access to it in iraq because like your life is different than everybody else's life you know and i always wonder about that. In sort of the void of your careers are over at such younger ages. Or they're supposed to be words of younger ages that your you know some people think it sounds like i'm being too sympathetic but i would think that there's a void that you have. That's impossible to fill that. None of us ever trying to fill in that. That's what that's what it is. I mean it was a void in my life That was a time. Whereas i didn't feel that i was loved. Just because of who..
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Man by the stop. Okay all right. We're going talk. Dan got nothing to do with the negotiation table. We all know that is is is obviously to look is a looking past joe ds. I don't think so. i don't think so. He nabet in abby. I don't think so. I don't think that's a big fight for and You know that's a fight that i don't even look at joe joe as a smaller man coming up. 'cause tunis like technically ain't the best. He's just like awkward small to any small twos alia and the truth man. They played a man he'd been even even even dangled around so long he'd been trained in puerto rico for fourteen months. He probably live in a gym man. Man that's a good point. You're leaving it in the gym. Every week he got a new fight. They cancelled at five. They say he got another fight. Poor kid ben trainer for like fourteen months mainly prize by dave. I got nothing would be a nice a nice find. He has a nice crowd not respect for him and his family. What they've been donor boxing. So either the winner. Either one of those guys on Is great you know lopez if we can if you can't if you can't get lopez of course of young russell. I think what he did is gay russell. A bigger fight than than the winner of lopez. I'm not a hobby me. You know. Joe dias got that fiber rock moth people. He lost shit plus losses bell at the scammers. Gary russell beat joe dias he dead. So that's what i'm saying like i wanted to say. Gioja was the bigger fight because he's actually active he's he's a former world champ is like he also almost arguably lost his his mandatory plus gary and then i think i think mr one point five he up you know. He's a world champion. You know what. I'm saying stepping up as mandatory danica. I'm pretty sure he got vargas to hand to i. And that's going to be tough. That's he finally in a fight to be honest with you. Ray wagner saying no slouch. Let me see still main at a scheduled on box ride but revolve is mandatory. And if you got got ray bargains lousy michigan. W when was this do that just other day. He was owned by gary footman. Gary got over a year him. fight how. Wbz is do. Get this off on the stand alone. Active champion man like oh other champ is due to mandatory and voluntary my manages to listen. I gotta go man immeasurable. Come up come up to thirty five. Yeah not take. I take it and i'm telling you i pay for that fight on disown view. I always loved that fight. I was mad. They fight like i felt like you know whatever. He was worth the money if he had to give him a little bit. More has always thought his name was worth well. One thing about what thanks to assure is when you get the date from the network and what we get a date from the network. We're vadim once we get a date for the network. We're trying to fill up which fulfilled a date. Just make sure you tell gary that 'cause you know how he feels about you coming at him with a date you've been training for and he just finding out about me. Better stay in the gym man if he should be getting ready now. Not when you ain't got nothing you might you. You tend not to get ready when you ain't for you know what i'm saying. They said you know be ready. So you ain't gotta get ready. I'm out that was a phrase. They will live. But i hear you bill. Thank you again as always ladies and catch me on the next one seven pm eastern for the flagship show purse..
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Come on here. And i'm saying listen from our perspective. We're still available. We're bailable to all them opponents that we talked about the guys that you talked about. Okay samson listen get ready get ready to go at beat this guy get ready. We ready the only thing that supersedes assassin fight is a which what's agreed that he agreed to it right. We talked about right. Yup yeah no. I mean i think he's a very realistic person to understand what that means. But yeah i mean. I just think we have to hold everybody accountable. You know he's gonna fight. George i i'm not convinced that he doesn't fight that fight and once that fight happens full working going to work right now you say the us but yeah i. I hope all these fights get made. I really do And i don't think gop most you know scared to fight. I know detonate scared to fight. I think it all comes down to like i said earlier. You know there's a there's a promoter and this promoter doesn't want to see the Juice fly out the promotion. You know i. It's the risk reward factor. Rather get that fight to knock itani or aloma rematch. Like he wants all in house in. Its you know it prevents the best fights from happening. Night doesn't want all in house suggest he wants. He wants like like any other promoting despite to beat a winner attended today. Exactly so it's not all of his last he'll do it will do. Not in spite yeah. I hope so. You're phone working up forward. And yet as samson. Tell william send me the link has to have his check. No doubt told them listen. Samson is a good guy. I wanted to do business with saxon before and i continue to do business you see. I'm telling my said. His name said hobby fortuna right. I'm begging up to win a hobby opportunity and joe dias understood as all as all business and one thing that you guys know different. Just like mr samson noses devonish the real deal man. we're talking about real fathers. This no social. I think i think he showed that in. Not as i m going wrap it up. But i do think he showed that in leonardo's fi like he's on another level you know what i mean like. Obviously there was the there was the punch by skill wise. He's on another level. So i'm sure samson ain't going to be running through that fight either unless as jank looking for the pope says is. Don't you bigham santana that. We got samson already. Know we got simpson pay for mikey. Man go outside. The buys meghan. Mikey where he is he retired. I mean he ozone fight. Don't you are at least a match right off the hook says and i'm gonna go. I'm called punch later on the day. But i'm i'm i'm looking. You know what i mean. I'm i'm i'm talking to my dominican brothers. You know what i mean by latin. Bribe's i'm looking for the lopez is right now. You know what i'm saying and see. Why dislike. Mario said why things go silent. I mean i think it's because of the the renegotiation the they're obviously not only restructuring the contract but the plan moving forward yup. They're they're trying to think. Yup that's exactly what what that exactly what it is and i'll tell you one thing is. It's not what you said if you said that's what makes you. The king is because yeah having come on finest fighters.
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Call me he. He he got was calling calling me non. Stop y'all so you know. What a comedian jason ready. But what t. O t on the dmz. You got to talking to the bob father. Not oh i. I'd never tell you this bill. I never told you this. Te'o cut me off like three weeks ago. Because i was going to have him on show are promoted on the inside like unified chant. He hit me in a. Dm late yo. You know undisputed playing games over siemian. My in i'm like where. And i doubt that that's what that's where if you put up whatever would us you put up whatever you can put negative positive that negative. That's the true if you go bots wreck. Wbz like he saw what he uses is every time you see undisputed. He tells them if they don't put undisputed then he he quit. He makes people makes the networks. No he does. He makes to network notice bill. What what what do you mean obviously is not broken true no behind you know. He makes.
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"But. I can only go on with the fact that what to female as a fighter and a self-described king undisputed or any of that describes itself. He's saying that it's nowhere else but devin ago saying that what he's going to be able to do with We have our business. We put ourselves in that position that you're saying and If if it's us episodes bringing the money and bringing the the network bringing the fans. I mean give us some respect. I saw alassane. You know. I've never to fight can happen. I just said that the wind which going by talking about it is not true is blaming. it's disrespectful. Right it's its ways that they don't want to fight to happen. They want us to say fuck in enough not available. I come back on here to the boxing boy since they now the name. That's not true. And that's not true out not towed eddie not to talk to to babur bob not to talk to any about about anything guys they they. They're going to continue to do business. You know what. I may ask bob in any talked. And they came up with something and presented to me and dip presented to. Te'o will be anything different. Anything that's been going on in boxing period. Last hundred years they talked on the eddie talked.
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Thirty two yes. He was a grown man at one. Thirty two so. We got a big. He got a little bit bigger. Went up to one thirty five. So they're talking about him being smaller. He's never bought small. He bought a smaller gary rush. Okay here let's not give grants for fighting or smaller a smaller rod. The will of the magnitude of being the man or not. Now i think you think i mean i mean you do too hung up on his man thing like beating gary alone. Didn't make 'em the man. It was like beating. Gary then billy galileo then beating champion roman martinez then beating champion. Nicholas walters then beating champion jason sosa then beating yoga then beating again. Champion gives them sixteen sixteen. A out of champions. What are we debate in here. He got sixteen fights. He got like a dozen fucking names. It's more of the other names. Who was the most accomplished of the doesn't answer. Yes i would have to say reagan. I guess how ab- spinning world titles rigging dug up rasa i would say general ponderosa in and Degen you can make a case for what he did nicholas walters and essentially took him out of the world title. This is key general. Rodriguez jim morgenthau now. La- nada back not the best one of the best. Okay put rigo. i think is a two time champ. man he to division chant just just like tessa. No no but the ass take raila norris. We said llaneras is the nour's is definitely one of them. One of them for sure most accomplished i didn't say i didn't say more complex than rigo. You'd better not get off rigo. Listen look sit back so you can listen. Rigo hold to nato donayre win debt right now that when is fucking gold donate just knocked out to champships. Rigo got the better win the biggest win his fucking corolla man you know jordan did essentially came back and reset time still the better resume.
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Nobody's talking about. Should today's duncairn gem anez was in olympia. You understand so is just like it is what it is but when it when it when they do give her shot she going shit on people savannah marshall finding that one sixty eight. Yeah that's a. that's a i mean. Look savannah got more experienced in Amateurs that's a good fight. You know i'm saying be eventual. But we made a point earlier like women's where you were interviewing nam odessa in sometimes in the women's game you don't need a bunch of fights and when asked about jimenez i was thinking a big big name even with the controversy attached to it and then you know a i guess the endgame would be a fight with marshall but i you know i don't know how many fights in between game. They seem to move faster. You're right the endgame definitely. Ain't marshall marshall. The stop i love her. She gives us plenty interviews. I don't want this to be taken the wrong way. But she's only known for beating clarisa like title but in but in a women's boxing. You know the true like potential to draw it's limited to a certain amount of fighters and you could argue that. Marshall would be one of the bigger names that she could get. I'm i agree. It's not the end game but it just it's it's maybe because report. They're not spending the dollars. Marshall they not making our main event the way they know. You're right you're right. you know they. They paraded katie in the box. And they're not doing that. Marshall you're right especially after some of her wins. I thought that they would like push the machine a little more. And they haven't we got to cash apps We got one from the says. Let me get another call please. Where are you austin is not on that. Oh yes. I was seen poker. Go ahead counterpunch. What boston a minute i i. I got a proposal. I got a little mac. Applying for mario's all i'd be mariachi kids. We met in september if he loses his they can have the trilogy december but if he went obviously that's his she's checks and then come december he could try to get his laws that concept timber. I'm gonna be where that esteban or the do that locker tanking boorda would team and then congress standard lecture say mario light weight have mario who take for. Oh he for key for key so call out your call out either one of those. If i beat them in september i low key. Who are really want is king. And i know that. Show kids boy. So mario and showcase the headlining and immune team could be that as so combing boy soak it. though he was going to beat. Mario and fight keam nba. He wanted kemin crews shit. Hey i'd be fighting somebody somebody fighting on my underscored that we can build to. That's that's old school promoting that's how it works exactly. I protected myopia can put on for. We need to have your mail checks. We needed phone eisai keys. I'd hey or in the west texas area. You're ready if you got a venue. Contact me on patriarch because you don't got no instagram. Let's talk but we need. We need a venue. I'm not going back to the jim. I'd rather doing appreciation night. Then go to a gym. I'm done with gyms. I i'm making a real push corpus. I really think that there's an opportunity to do a border wars here. Yeah well let's hope man. Let's hope we let the clock tick man. We got ken stone. With the super. J says people think the whereabouts of supervisory blocks fighters to beatty was an attorney and he is tmz fight. An excuse entered a tournament. You are a duck. I hear some people. Just don't enter those tournaments. They got better situations. You know what. I'm saying like like say that was the same thing you know. He he was a draw he was making money. He didn't he didn't need a super six. But guess what he allowed. Several people to immigrate super fight though he did. He got really big We got another super chat from ken. Stone says happy. Inoue fight week tv. The monster turns and we got a crash at big twenty big twenty dubbed from my man. Tony boswell says. I'm here for the support or to support rather than that. We appreciate that Looks like we got a. m. g. online with up.
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"bob arum" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"It's obviously fate man like oh you got me while charles fi in bucket Charles in houston top brand. Got they own car. Don't bother us job as junior silva's fighting everybody's fight pay so now you oh. We're going to go hard on august. Fourteen oh so you're going against earl. Impact gavin get yo ass outta lying to me. You're lying. They didn't have a venue still it. Don't matter they're going. They're going against earl pack down. No i just saw wager way said that there was still not advance. Did they push to is somebody else's dave. They can't compete man. They can't compete. You can't compete with pack out that ever stop like how mature side go ahead. It doesn't stop right but as a boxing fan. Some of us can't afford both. So we're gonna decide. Do flos cambosix or do we buy. Pat space is just. That's too bad it's a bad situation absolutely anyway. Go on pay per view. I met with a role blattman anyway. And it's like okay. Wait wait but did he. Here's the one thing that may because you're saying that the cove is like a possible road. Espn i think that's a very good point but could it also be a potential. Let's get this if i were supposed to be in australia. Move because they make the most money anyway. You know. that's where the tickets listen our day. Trillo won the purse bid. So somebody going to have to talk to them about relinquishing their rights to promote this fight as just a bottom line they won you know unless the covert is fake. 'cause trilogy really don't got the money i don't get no you fight. So all i am point. Eight million he was allegedly he and get it he might have gotten. Maybe he might have gotten a little lady. We all speculated. Yeah i mean if so this is a perfect opportunity. Something fell through with thriller. Something wasn't going right Bob steps in look. I told you i was going to pay you this. This is what i'm going to give you. Let them pay you. Whatever they said they was gonna give because they're not gonna give him six now. So if bob got a kick in to one and a half trillo pays arrest a move to espn and they get the fight going. That's i mean that's the learns rolling. No i mean but that's definitely a scenario. That could play out that works in a way that i don't see any other road blocks like to try to like not make the fighter subdued. Like that can't happen. There's no way that anybody associated with this fight is gonna wanna pay that amount of money that it would take to contractually break this thing. You know what i'm saying. So so that's done but to try to switch the network. I think that is a possibility. And if you're trailer and you spend all this money. And now you lost logan paul and jake paul and it's like they were your cash. Cows like yeah. You probably do want to start you know scaling it. Back and Shelter julio garcia from candidate. Who wrote a article last month for tb And covered the fact. That trilogies has a bunch of pending lawsuits. That they have on people right and there are some. That are speculating that those lawsuits are more about to recoup what they've already put in that they haven't gotten back and i don't know if that's true or not. This is speculation from the people that are being suit right Specifically a podcast. Or by the name of i don't remember he was on the Tom saga podcast and so he said he's being sued because he showed the fight on his podcast. I think and he had like a million ten million views. I'm like that whatever right. And so he's there's no no. He's in big trouble. But that didn't prevent him from swinging at the fences at these guys and he saying that you know that they've spent a bunch of money on the musical acts that that's what has hemorrhaged their money so far and that they are in worse shape letting on again. That's speculation from a person who's being sued by trailer so take that with a grain of salt. But that's said. I mean you know without these venues being able to have actual people in an and depending on the concession and all that that that it takes to recoup the financial obligations. It's hard to imagine that they were sitting pretty right now so they might want to get out of that six million and then also like putting six million when they could have won it with four. You know what i'm saying like it's like you know. May maybe they didn't know the ryans they're doing this like wait. We stopped six. Just pay the four but it's now worth champ It's gonna be interesting to see what happens with the -til situation. But i think more interesting is is is. You know what happens with crawford. Does he take these fights that are being offered some these rumored fights the or does he take a stance and show frustration and and and and you know lash out for once. I don't know man. I don't think we're gonna see him just going off his previous pattern. I don't think we're going to see him. Take a stance. His stances not take steps But i think it would be nice to see take a stance at this point I think if he if he takes either of those whites that are offered is gonna be that that. Same thing that i've been saying one forty pounders you know when a step up unified at one forty by the time you get one forty seven. It usually just doesn't pan out as well.
Ball & Buds
'Boxing News' ft. Combat Sports Insider Deon Clubbs (Ball & Buds Podcast Episode #13)
"Big terence crawford fan elephant in the room. Is we all want to see the task. Force earl spencer. Who is tasked. Crawford's bob arum aerospace is now heyman so let's pbc de espn top rank two different companies. And they don't talk that. Well bob air hill talk to somebody like eddie hearn's who's matchbox and that's why we're going to have the fury verse. Anthony joshua fight which will be happening soon helping the site but pack. I mean he has won. The belts task cropper. Only has one belt. Its way for our task offer to pillow more emphasis on how necessary that fight is to unify. Forty-seven welterweight division. I think if pack. Yeah winds i mean. Sorry one of the best boxers of all time but if he beats terence crawford somehow he'll solidified himself as how pound. I mean this may weather and then pack. Y'all right there for this generation. Yeah dan i honestly think that terence crawford will not come with the same protests when keith armand fault pack. Y'all was outclass outmatch. I'm saying a right now first clubs bangers clubs bangers on the list i care score for will win this fight In might go the distance. But i think tears crawford will will have pack yao dump by lisa sixth or seventh round. He starts a little later and then he wants he figures you out it's over with in pac l. Might be rabbi. He might be there with calmer. Gregor the wraps might be sectional. They all my internet things about life thing about how much they drink tonight before. Who knows what. I think pat will be going to sleep. Who could slum writer six or sound around that fight and crawford who have to belts. It'll be more if assist as far as him fighting Earl spencer fight really needs to happen for you have just one chance. I don't like all these these all. These belts and safety and buys are fine but we want one undisputed champion and had way divisions got right there startling towards that path with a anti josh will sisa fury and i think the wealth way forty seven trend towards that way hopefully by next year once cry a patio like trash that he has dispose disposable. Jettison get out here. that's to happen by next year. Oh yeah my brother. I completely agree. We got to have that match. We boxing match in our lives and i agree. I believe that terraced coffer will stop mini. Pack y'all i believe many we'll put up a good fight but yeah i don't think he has what it takes. I think he's a little too old to stop. Terence crawford crawford at the ball in booths. Podcasts he's really good. And i really like him and so yeah i think he's gonna stop him and i i hope so. I'm very excited. So we can have him versus like you said errol spence and see that joint in twenty twenty two fo the win- anyways so we have a huge fight coming up either this year next year. The heavyweight division is finally consolidating and we have tyson fury versus anthony joshua which will be the biggest fight in u. k. boxing history. So my friend. Tell me how we feel about the heavyweight division. How well they're doing art. We can't okay. Starts out first of all omar. Would you
Balance of Nature
Middleweight boxer Marvin Hagler dies at 66
"Middleweights has died. Joe Stern reports. Boxing promoter Bob Arum said he was the most loyal, dedicated fighter he ever promoted. He was talking about marvelous. Marvin Hagler, who died Saturday at his home in New Hampshire Angler was the undisputed middleweight champ from 1982 1987 after winning the W B, a WBC and the ring middleweight titles from British boxer Alan Minter. Hagler finishes fight career 62 3 in two out doing Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, John Mugabi and mentor before losing a split decision to Sugar Ray Leonard in his final fight. He's a member of the International Boxing Hall of Fame and was only knocked down once in his professional career. Marvin Hagler Dead at the age of 66. Joel Stern,
Golic & Wingo
Boxing: Third Fury v Wilder fight is on, says Warren
"And we are going to see part three after three you beyond a wobbler and Tyson fury Wilder has indeed exercise the right to a third fight with Tyson fury top rank chairman Bob arum furries Furies co promoter told ESPN cited that the plan is to have a fight take place in July July eighteenth at the MGM grand in Las Vegas the same locale where thanks that forty five pound costume yeah well he had a seventh round TKO against Tyson fury fury took him out arum said he was not surprised while the winter with picking up his option because it gives them a chance to get back to things that
The Stephen A. Smith Show
Jeff Horn, Terence Crawford make weight for welterweight title showdown
"To do what you do but when it affects everybody as a whole i have a problem with that if he's the president of the united states he says he's trying to run the country okay i appreciate the call appreciate the call i've got a transition left because i've got to talk to one of the great great boxing for motives of our time the head the founder co founder and the head of top ranked the one and only bob arum is on a live with us what's going on bob how are you sir how's everything even really really vegas we have a big fight coming up on saturday with darren's budge crawfish challenging for the wbo welterweight title against japan a lot of excitement here i mean listen we're talking about a jeff jeff one attempts corp everybody's been talking about carpet i know you like jeff on you put jeff wanna get too many pack yeah it was a tough decision outdoor pin that many out deserve that decision but he didn't get jeff horn got it he's wbo welterweight champion he's going up against jeff horn talk to me about this fight and what it will mean i the fighter in your mind well of foreign wins the fight obviously huge having to upsets was credit many back our and terence crawford obviously terence's favorite in the fight but crooked is a you know since asional beat everybody at one thirty five and then a junior welterweight one forty one all four belts nine moves up to one forty seven and if he beats on as i hope and expect that he will that starts is ability to conquer all the welterweight sout they're not you know got remember bob arum you wanna wreck and i remember when you and i were talking about lohman chanko and you talked about how phenomenal he was the best pomp found fight in the world and you know i mean you compare them ready in eight nine fights to the all time greats and we've seen nothing that would disapprove what you said you that you were not shy about shy.