20 Burst results for "Bo Burnham"
"bo burnham" Discussed on Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
"He's actually bad at comedy. And i'm the only is good at it. It's just like how it has the word so there's two virgins they're sort of like people who are more established being like. I can't do that. It was so relaxing to watch a special that. I was not jealous right. It's like i sell jen kirkman and laurie kilmartin. Just being like. I can't do that. This was a cool. If someone doing something go the form neal brennan appreciate it because it was like. Oh this is nice that people doing this with the form. There is a bit of imagine comedians. That are like five years. Who were like this year fucked up my rhythm. I was gonna get new faces and then i was going to bubble ought and i worked in an and this another reminder of what i've been seeing of like megan salter going from this person on twitter. Now she's on a tv show. What about me. You know like that's always going to happen comedians. that's just how get the world. they'll never find two other persons success that they can use as an example of their own personal failure or their own example of like why the systems working against them. I mean i think at least from my perspective. Bo is truly such an extraordinary case. There are so many other youtubers. There are other people around. He one was. I think it's user pretty good but like seemingly is better at that and then by twenty like in those between sixteen and twenty. He's like. I want to be serious and be taken seriously. And he toured. He did live shows and like i do think he was. He understood the basic idea of test out jokes and a little bit. And then you've got more and more comfortable performing. I do think he is not a full example of like. Let's take out the entire system. But i think the hope is and they feel like the people like. I think like juniors the person who's the best at stand up comedy who also understands why it's okay to do other stuff and he's like the better thing is if comedians understands like do everything. Try to make take talks while also you're losing more. Comedians are like there was a time when most comedians would never done a podcast where it seemed like it was do or dilute their artistic growth. Now if you don't do a podcast of your fallen behind right if you're not on social media it's a choice. Will there come point where in the same way that comedians. Who don't podcasts. Feel like they're letting themselves down career wise that if you've been doing it for eight years you don't go to film school or you're like take a film and learn how to use different cameras. I don't think that's a crate. I'm just looking down the line but or is such an anomaly. Which is just as likely i'm not but there's something interesting in the way there. Is this audience. That wants to see stand up as like one person standing on a stage and no one else has anything to do with it. And that is what distinguishes that art form from anything else and so part of the like mystique of this special. Is that although it is a vastly more sort of like films. Kind of a thing that that he did it right like it. Is this distillation of a single person. And he's the only and so we value it and like it. It sort of is stand up because he did all of it right true which hides the fact. There are plenty of tv exists. You can make comedy where somebody else does. The camera part right. There are other ways of creating visual vers and like. There's the sense that collaboration is cheaper to have somebody writing jokes for you is cheaper and it would be interesting if all of the comedians were like. Oh shit do i have to be an autour. In like twelve different languages were instead pushed into a thinking of like. Maybe the thing i want to do is just collaborate with people. Yeah yup and like we had a co worker. Who was like bummed when she watched the credits like anyone else credited. I get it i like it more. I want to talk with someone. Said they know person who shot some of it or one of the producers. that's credited does post production producing so that means someone else was collaborating. They weren't in the room doing what we think of as the creation process but they were probably there. They've they were probably doing a pass. He special thanks his cinematographer in eighth grade and a lighting person that he's used what is that. What was that need. I assume it. He sent emails being. Like what camera do i need to do this. What filters don't need to do this. And yes he set up those lights because as the pandemic and someone can come over maybe to do it and that took time like to me. I like that better does not diminish it all that a person with a vision was like oh i have a vague idea of the colors i need but i don't know why to make sense. I think it's less about him doing all by himself. In more the creativity in the constraint of like how can i do this all in a room with the other hands with me not necessarily completely out of my own brain. There's these restaurants where people feel like they need to make all the parts of it right and then they think that's more farm-to-table than where it's like in europe. Every restaurant making their own bread. They got their bread person. And that doesn't mean is less authentic. I agree with you as i think. I like it better that way. I also think there which i think. You're agree with me that the road to collaboration without form and structure.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
"All the time i will say i. My theory is. That song was either written before lockdown or the first song plan to be ridden. I act and if you look at it as hairs much shorter like it is definitely a thing. He did in the first few months. And i think it's placed. Well it's it's interesting. The first time i watched my favorite song now. I don't like as much because there's an fit into my new reading like a dozen work. It works as a self contained unit. Is the one that perfectly fits to be put on youtube on. Its own thing but it doesn't satisfy in the same way the sort of oh. This is a visual experience in this way. And this sort of internet aspect is not as i'm there's internet's part of it i mean that's like ultimately threat and the bigger thing which was catholic. Talk about which. I can't imagine what this is like. If you've no idea who bo burnham is like like. I've had a person watches like we'll have you seen the other stuff is like no. Is it like this. I was like well kind of like all of this. But it's a little like all at once and like through mirror and i think it's really satisfying so it's you forget that we're talking about ultimately stand up. Comedians so rarely are comedians. Like oh this. Special is going to be thought of. As in the context of this other specials they might think of their life evolving. But they're not going to be like. Oh i'm subverting. This song from when i was twenty like heated artist dad when he was twenty twenty years old which is why like it still. Maybe his the song people known best for and it's interesting 'cause it's like also his best of his like more cynical stuff which i used to. I don't like as much. Because i think just sort of to be christian. Cullen everything is bad. Or whatever. But i do think he like. I think make happy is a sort of complete peace where he sort of like fingernails like. Oh i have this problem with performing and my religion of the audience. And i figured out sort of way to reconcile it and then i'm going to do this big ending and it feels like this is him what i think it succeeds. Which is everything. I thought it was wrong. This is knocking to be as neat of a thing. Means you can talk about it forever. My read on that song the way it's vulnerable is at first. It's the mc saying we're giving you everything a little bit everything all the time then at the end he shifts the perspective and he says i want a little bit of everything all the time at the end you saying. He's not just chris internet. he's saying. I want exactly what the internet is. I'm a product of the internet. I love the stuff on the internet. And this whole weird contraption of a special what better description of a little bit of everything all the time. There's so many things going on from the personal to the political to the all these different musical styles to the when he repeated that i was like oh yes ending song rate venison. Yeah the for every moment. It's probably worth the last like seven choices to me are all. I like went back and looked at them all and they're all i think trying to tie back something earlier in either. Make him make personal or twisted a bit. Make it a little darker make you look at it. The last images like he's trapped in performance like we all are trapped inside the second reading of it but yet look the last image of the special. You wouldn't ah for special this dark for special that all these people think it's so sad and the last one is him kind of smirk at them ending so upsetting to me. I'll be like the last just the last like the inside part of the last scene. You know where he's watching himself and that smirk really got me on a Was truly. I tweeted this but i felt like i compare it to like a comedy of menace. There's a feeder to how it puts things out there and you have to react and that ending reminded me of so much theater that i feel like it's in the last ten years of people like blowing everything up the ending and then just forcing you to sit in that and it was at the truly in all the reactions i see people talk about. They can't reconcile that aspect of it with like captured what it felt like to be in the pandemic and i cried funding. All of that. And you forget like at the end. He's essentially being like laughing at you for taking this seriously and yet people. What do we do that. And it's like. I don't want people taking things just things not him necessarily but things in general like he respects earnestness. You can i think so is not a piece that it is really possible to sit and watch and i keep thinking about like digest ability and like the way that it uses internet forms because it knows that it is then going to get disseminated on the internet like it is the flip side of it being as a whole piece everything all the time is that people will always only take a little bit of it right. There is no real way to do a tick tock. That's like here's everything that's happening in this speech it can't be done like he clearly knows that but i also don't know it is really hard to reckon with and this is a much broader point about comedy and all kinds of stuff but it is really hard to reckon with the thing that you are putting out and what you want it to be and and how you feel about it and how you want the ending to be twisting and darkening and reflect new reflecting all of the stuff and how you know your audience dot gonna get it like it you know and do we judge it on the thing that you want it to be or that it failed to do the thing for some of your audience that you wanted it to do or maybe it didn't fail. Maybe that is as legitimate a responses anyone else but it it does feel like the piecemeal element of it is as deliberate as the rest of it as a sort of it is like a buffet style comedy situation specifically what do you think the last image means because to me if i really try to take it seriously and try to be like all right. What's he really saying about himself. I think his real joy and accomplishment where you staves off depression is in making work and the images which are being trapped being locked out suffering and depression right there..
"bo burnham" Discussed on Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
"Asked the brands. I work with is his his is is is is is is. Are you going to be on. The right side of history. Question is in. What are you selling or or what service are you providing. The question is what do you sand for who argue bagel bites all these big companies. They're so scared of all social change. And i come in and i put their fears to rest. I tell them just be honest. Tell your customers that that. Jp morgan is against racism in theory. Why ms instagram. There's a specificity to the visual language but what people are actually responding to which is the personal narrative of mental health and fragility depression and isolation. i think is the least specific. Part of the show and bo burnham isn't the same guy that he was when he was sixteen now famous successful guy who lives with the film director and yet the mood and vibe of it is very similar to what i feel. His form has evolved radically. His content is similar to what it was emotionally when he was younger. But you know maybe he's a lot. This is not a christmas is a scripted because people are still reacting the much more to the emotional part as i see it everywhere all of us as adults. There is a part of us that is still seventeen right old away and we literally just want it repackaged away. That makes us feel okay about watching it as an adult. This totally succeeds on that level of these talks have been fascinating because you know like i'm currently trying to write about how people are taking in comedy these days it's useful when you have people who've never had to have a conversation accommodate before doing a minute of trying to explain why things are whatever and what's so interesting i saw one person was somewhat taking ours thing of this wasn't him actually almost gonna commit suicide or whatever it's a movie and because it's a movie he's acting and i'm like oh. This person is doing the same misreading in my is a lot of people are which is they only can understand. Stand up comedy as a person going on stage and confessing truth despite the fact of like all these sort of chinks in the armor of truth that we've seen in years despite literally both entire career has been criticizing the sort of performed authenticity of previous generations of stand up comedians. That is still like the bucket that people think of a stand up. Comedians are confessional about truth and are funny all the time which is why on two ways. People like this not saying special. It's good. it's too ambitious visually. This is not a comedy special or there's not a comedy special. It's not funny enough. Both of these people are sort of doing the same thing. You have a very specific bucket of what these things can beat. And why i forever thankful for them is if he's succeeded in anything of pushing against any sort of notion if there's one definition of these things as is gerard as them together have such ideas and the talent to actually do the thing of like. Oh what if comedy specials were more visually ambitious a lot of people can say that tony hinchcliffe has a special that shot in one take right. That's a cool idea. But then you watch especially like seeing. This isn't just a gimmick. Yeah blair bo as actually like. Oh what if i like. I remember when i talked to him about make happy. I thought of the visual before. I wrote any of the songs i knew i wanted to have this. I knew i wanted these stage things. Yeah i think he succeeded in directing this special and that is interesting. That's what the responses mean regardless of the right or wrong. It's like oh people actually don't have. They're they're trying to squeeze into these things and then it's funny to see everyone squeeze at the same time and completely contradict each other one hundred percent right he is the his whole career has been a critique of that idea but at the same time he knows that the audience is going to see it as bow on state. He's knows both thanks. So what do you do with that problem. When i interviewed him a couple years ago he said when i may wanted to make a show about performance. I i worry that. It would be just about me in self-indulgent but then i realized because we're all performing social media it actually had a broader application and. That's a good way. I think at for an artist to just writ large to think about their work. You begin with the specific and you all you have is your own personal experience in your own imagination to work with. But if you're doing your job well. You hit these broader ideas through that performances. They'd natural so then. The question is all right with this one. What are these broader ideas that he is. I think he knows that because of the way he knows people are going to read it. He has to filter it through his own personal biography his own personal and it helps that he is a kind of cultural guinea pig. He was like he did grow up on. Social media are in this sort of cass case of a comic who didn't develop through going to clubs and i think the benefits of this and this is i think again i'll the pivot. This is that i always thought about bo burnham for years that one day he was gonna make a massive hit broadway musical like the south park guys did and i thought rightly. I think that scott rudin was gonna be the one to produce produced his movie. Well it's not it's got ruins not to produce that but it just seemed obvious to me if you watch his work not only the fact that he has the shop. He can write lyrics musical but also the traditional musical. The point where you move from talking to singing is the point when you hit this high emotional pitch. That's the reason you start singing. I always felt that both speaks about emotional language. What i think he's done with the special is make a musical. We didn't realize we're going to do it by himself. In a room but structurally it's like a Musical like book of mormon alike spam a lot. It's leaning on the personal history as knows about but is much more narrative sophisticated and musically. I think a comp. It's not like it's not even sunday but it's more so than his last. Few specials have been. I i when i watch it. I was like was that. Like almost no breaks between songs and i re-watch and realize there's a lot of like him talking and doing bits between but it felt like it was just song into song into song with like little breaths in between like hamilton or some What is it. Sink through or something. It's called it. isn't that. But i totally see reading as a broadway show of it and i would love to see bowe broadway show. There's also like a lot of puttering set yet like music. I mean welcome to the internet is cabaret yes. Clearly cavero did just recently see the does. He has a song from two thousand nine called. Welcome to youtube which you can find on youtube where katy perry is sitting on top of his piano which is very similar to welcome to the internet but anyways the i mean the character he's playing is like the cabaret and the first by when he says welcome. That's a musical theater that that but then what you're saying the as that line little bit of everything all the time. And that's what he's offering dastardly character and to give them a little bit dangerous cabarets about the holocaust the decadence of weimar germany. He's comparing that to the internet relationship to him. There is bet glibness which he's always twang with in a very software way interest. You in everything. All the i bid of everything all of a tragedy. Boredom is wrong all the time. Could i interest you in everything. Everything talk everything. Anything and everything and.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
"And i'd watch it and i'm like i don't find this stuff that funny and i remember the first time i watched make happy. It's like oh. It's interesting. But like i don't find a lot of jokes and then i would think about make happy for years. Then see how the sort of audience relationship stuff has become much more common for people talk about most recently. There's james e cassar special and he talked about how people kept on telling me needs to watch bo burnham. It's like. I can't because i'll and then he would be like. Oh we're doing the same thing. So i had just been thinking about like oh. Like unknowingly became incredibly influential. You don't know that the time that can be really influential thing. And then i spoke to him and he's so good at talking about what he's trying to do and we talked about make happy and sort of the main idea of make happy was going through these panic attacks. He's having all this complicated feelings about his relationship an audience and performance and he sort of stumbled on this thing of wants to criticize performance while also giving people what performance offers and. That's like the thing that always find so interesting and to me. The pinnacle of what these people can do which is satirized the thing but also gave you the thing so it resulted in two things as we go into talking about the special which is one. My expectations of this were insanely high. Because i was planning on my experience of watching this the first time to feel like what it's been like to make happy for four years. Which is now. I realized too hard of thing and the other thing is and i think some people have this relationship to bow which is maybe incredibly skeptical of the emotional parts going into it and i'll start with my sort of first experience of it. Which was i was watching it. I knew catherine and meg were waiting for me to finish it to share my opinions. And i was like i think it's pretty good and she was like that's it. I was like kind of. We have been arguing about this special in like vultures slack. For days there are couple of pieces of it that we keep coming back to that we keep like. I think it needs this. I think it means that. I can't decide how i feel about it. And it's not just jesse like there are lots of people who are really piecing apart a couple of songs in particular. And i think there is totally an argument to be made that like it is a comedy special and it should not be that hard to understand. Roughly what he means. One of the things i like about emission is that i can't think of a great work of art. That is is so clear is okay. I'll only be read almost of great art that it can be interpreted multiple ways over the years. I'm not even sure that. I think this special qualifies but i think it is true that pinning its point of view is a little tricky because in my opinion the point of view the special which is different. From whether it's good or bad has to do with perspective and form in my opinion the special like has these satirical songs about the zeitgeist in the beginning although it has sort of. He's doing this to stave off. He brings up the idea of suicide. The beginning which is probably the part of the special that i'm most ambivalent about but then the song where you're trying to be funny while stuck in a room to me. That's that's a turning point in the special in in some ways his career. And i think that for me that unlocked the meaning for a lot of special because there parts of that song that he repeats in various points in the special both musical parts and lines from that that i think tip is handled it and i think that also tidbits the special from being this sort of special about sort of steer songs being personal. It pivots to his backstory. And you see him watching himself and there's song problematic which is like all his operas and two it's a great satire of the person making apologies. And how they make sort of sexy and order themselves in the style of madonna video or something but it also operates like a backstory. It tells you where he's from what the room was where he was and where he wanted to escape from church on sundays. Start doing comedy. When i was just a shelter i wrote offensive. Shed and please forgive me. I did not be day. Is man two times change getting old. Are you gonna be town bad. Is dan unbanning anybody going over the town and the song stuck in the room. The reasoning attorney point is it's completely serious ernest. It's the first song on this special doesn't try to be funny at all and to me. It's like kids.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Good One: A Podcast About Jokes
"And welcome to the specials. I am jesse. David fox with me as always my co-host catherine ben air donc my producer jesmyn molly and with us not as always but because this is a special occasion and i feel like everyone who does thing like this for a living needs to talk about the special much as possible joining us. Is jason cinnamon of the new york times. Thank you jason for joining us. Thank you catherine. Jesmyn for being here as always. Hello everyone be here. We are talking about bo. Burnham's two thousand twenty one special inside which was released on netflix. usually jason. When we do this. I provide a variety of context. But since this is all right now we all know the context. Which is there's this pandemic that is was happening is happening. This filmed seemingly already -an during this. I don't think goes already during this. But that's a conversation for later and that's what it is in the context of bose career. Two thousand sixteen he released make happy which was a big deal and then seemingly was like taking a break from up his way of taking a break was directing his first movie. It immediately was a huge critical and financial success. He should have got nominated for an oscar but he did win an independent spirit award. He was in promising young woman. And i had heard he was doing standup again. And we'd nussbaum tweeted one time about seeing him. Sometime in this interim but for most party was not focused on it these connected to a lot of projects yadda yadda behind the scenes. Pretty early on. I feel like early as march. We heard that he was releasing special. That he was working on and seemingly the release of the special was until when he finished it. They're gonna put it up. And so that is the nature of the back of inside. But i feel like a useful place to start is. What was that relationship to bo burnham before this special and it can go first jason. You're the guys you go i. Well you know one of the most fun parts about covering comedy for a while. Now is seeing artists evolves and i think in a weird way the complete arc of my career has sort of mapped onto over career. He was there from the start. And i've written about him at this point. Probably almost as much as i've written about anybody and at first he was a really great. I would say. I thought of him as a great story because he was one of the first youtube stars. I still think of him in fact some of the things. I think that our most interesting about this bo. Burnham actually does pose existential threat to the way a lot of comedians the world because his process of going from starting out where he is now is so different than other comedians. and the skills that he's picked up along the way. I think only would have happened in this particular process so at the time he was like a novelty curiosity a youtube star a very successful one and then he moved from being a really great story to somebody who really i think is like one of the more ambitious artists in this field. Somebody who i think has incredible range. I don't know what you think about this. But sometimes i feel like having a background in comedy doesn't matter so much with when i'm writing about something like other people could do justice same job. Following his career actually is quite being versed in. His work is useful in the same way. That like if somebody's reviewing the newborns as the movie who has a long track record that i think it it makes it much more understandable. So yeah i've liked. All of his work on had always had some reservations but i think like a lot of critics. I have a bias towards ambition. And he's somebody who in. This is a great example of it. I think who's always really ambitious. What's been interesting to watch that. I what his audience with the audience response to about him isn't always the same as what i respond to. But i'm also fab. I'm still bring a full circle. I'm still fascinated by him as a story along with being an artist. And i think with this special just like with his first youtube viral hit. It's resonating in. Its transcending comedy in this way. That is really interesting. Just men so. I definitely remember both from back in the youtube days. That was definitely on my radar. And then i don't think i was introduced to him and his specials until what i think that was his second right it was word towards words than what and my cousins who i feel like i brought up so many times on the show. Because they're like my whole like comedy origins. They showed me what completely blew my mind. And i kind of freaked out about how much i loved it. I loved actually showing that special two people going into this special. I was already like way too. Like in the bag for bo. Burnham till the objective. I love his work so cavern. Had you watched him before. I was like you need to become a comedy critic boards at the top of the list of things. You need to watch. Yeah yeah. I i was enough aware of a bunch of youtubers. I mean i was like college at this point. But i had seen a couple of his things but only in that context and then yes jesse forced me to be a comedy critic and he made a. It sounds like a joke. It's literally hand. Puppet and jesse was the burnham yes but much like that relationship than it is mostly about the arguing between then he made a list of i was like. Here's the thing. I don't know anything about comedy. And he's like. I'm just gonna make a list of specials and you can just watch those and that's fine and you'll be totally prepared to accommodate credit. That's not true and we need that list. Yeah i have. I still consulted but make happy was one of the ones right at the top and i remember watching that one and i remember i was like i can watch this whole list right now but he seemed really like this one was important so i started it was that was one of the first ones that i watched. And then i also then went and watched jesse's vulture conversation with bo- about that and the interesting thing for me has been seeing how of the stuff that comes up in make happy started showing up in other people's works as ideas not as forms in ways that i found really interesting but also like aren't they just saying the same thing that he didn't cut like didn't we do this already. But that has been really fascinating and then this special. I came to as jesse said we sort of knew it was going to be coming and i have also because i'm also tv critic have spent a lot of time thinking about like pandemic stuff in the last year and like what makes for a pandemic tv show because there are all of these kind of special event tv episodes particularly early on. What is it. What do we need from that kind of thing. What do we want from it. What feels terrible about it. And so i had already spent some time thinking about at what point. Pandemic related are is actually additive instead of just reflecting and so that that was sort of how i came into watching this my l. Enter the story as i've been alluded to. Why put it so high on that list of things to watch. Which is i feel like. I had watched bo burnham periodically. But i've i became attracted to the idea of bo. Burnham and burnham's ideas like bo burnham talking about bo burnham is still to me like the pinnacle bo burnham as like a comedian comedy unit so i heard him on. You made it weird. I'm like this is interesting..
"bo burnham" Discussed on The No Budget Filmcast
"It's interesting. I never heard about bo burnham i saw him and promising woman knows thinking. Who's that after. I never saw him before. And i googled him like. Oh he does kinda comedy still. And then i just completely forgot about him and i read on the internet those this special and people were raving about users and saying everyone has to watch it. 'cause i sat down to watch thinking. Oh this is we just a comedy special your laugh once or twice and i was just blown away by it was like he brought on this crazy emotional vulnerable journey and then i looked back into his history and he talks about in this as well he. He stopped performing for five years. 'cause he had severe panic attacks on stage which is crazy to think of on even does an interview about his anxiety. Now i know in base. He's playing a character he's not exactly going but in a i can see that he's using his own experiences and issue guest. I find it very hard to watch one goal as well and i did take a break and information. It's one the most inventive inspiring master basis for me. Because it's someone who's using all its resources to the max. It's like another so many actors. Now who are creating their own work including myself. 'cause i created so during lock and i i can see on all these wires invites and everything hear everything around the room and i felt like god. It's like i'm nowhere near bo. Burnham like god that was like when you create solo work. That's what it looks like. You know your room. And but yeah. It's he's using all his resources to the max in this thing is writing his lyrics the licensing everything and from a technical point of view. It's stunning. It shows you what you can do as an actor writer creator by yourself and you can create an absolute masterpiece and as very brave of him to us in and bring us on a journey and you see him looking at his old footage because he did blow up on youtube when he was sixteen. I think it was his He made videos for his brother who was in the army. I think his within the army and then he didn't expect to blow up and he got raise accessible really quick..
"bo burnham" Discussed on Now Try This
"Hit me too hard. And then he thinks about feeling like a bag of ship in like a bag of shit. I love that song the due to from like a bad guy she. Yeah it's it's so funny. How so much of it so well done and then at the same time just makes there's so many so much dumb humor so many silly jokes in it to you. Know he just gets comedy. It is incredible how one person could just get and then he just do another small bit called all time low but then the next big moment when he sings welcome to the internet. Welcome to the internet as like a fucking vaudevillian remind me of across the universe or something but it was like a circus. He kinda fuck it. Ringleader he kind of vibe like welcome to the internet. Welcome to the you know. It's incredible it's different than the rest of songs for sure everything all the time. Everything all of the time. It's just a commentary on how the internet is constantly trying to drive you in and has something there for everybody and there's no escaping in your constantly be on it all the time no matter what whether you like it or not and especially during the pandemic i mean. That's what the fuck else were redoing. People weren't going outside. People weren't doing anything. You couldn't go anywhere so all you had was the internet as both an escape end a prison. Yes wild i mean. There's an argument that it helped us during this time but it was also activate habit like wow like what if also during the pandemic the internet went away like with made us better or worse i think wars would have been started. I think if you take away porn from everyone at the same horn under the markets. I lost a lot of porn in the mansion. I think there would have been a lot of s. That would have been very easy moment to be like me to nick camaraderie instead of like. I imagined you did watch a lot of a thanks. Mark is Radio god i watched. I watched so much porn to man. What kind water. Water bottle tape porn is very is very nishi. It's like you're to leaders to leaders into a l. two leaders into a gallon. Yeah oh goodness and then we probably another great bop basis number two jeffrey. Oh scott fucking hit. What was hard. What was the what was the like. Are right buck in hunting. Looking like a bush swamp person out that he was like it was from amazon. Dot com. i've seen that so many times. it's from amazon. It's i it hot-seller. Every time i look for costumes. It is the first thing that comes up under costumes superman. That's exactly why he was wearing it. I am assuming that's why he was wearing again. Wow that's nice. That's real nice. Let's see that funny feeling. Yup that funny feeling with force Backdrop this song was Different than a lot of the other ones because it was a coup sticky because it was a little different yet but it was about like about like a disassociation right. Like what's really not and like him talking about you know. Somebody asked her in the chat. What you're doing look for costumes. I think they deserve an answer. Oh there's here's here's what. I'll do quick quick answer. Are you ready. Because i've been obese most of my life. I haven't been able to dress up as anything ever for halloween. And then ever since i lost weight a few years ago i want to dress up for halloween every year but every year i panic and stress out so much about that i never dress up and i still have dressed up for halloween in my adult life for anything so one year i will be brave enough to actually come up with the cost anybody's spend months beforehand searching for a costume. I feel the exact same way. I was really close to buy costumes this last halloween. But we're still in the pandemic and where to go to. Yeah i was really close to it and you know what i almost bumped almost bought a hike. Yocasta one of those trees good. Yeah yeah one and takes pictures. But i like that. No it would be funnier if you've got a red wagon. You're the top one. Let me get the short one. I'll be tolan i'm ready. We'll figure it out tomorrow. In haiku we should go play volleyball somewhere in our haiku gossip one hundred percent ellen. That'd be fun but yeah that's new to. This is his taylor swift song very very folklore. That the name of that album poker nonstop. But it's about he says it. It's about de realization and his depression. And i don't have you'll realization but i've heard of it i understand it. Do you realize asian or disassociation. The song's about dissociation. But in the song he says he liked calls to dr name was. What do you realization is. got it out. So it's kinda he's talking about but he's talking about not feeling real and not feeling like the world is a real thing. That's you know that's the type of depression that people deal with where everything. Yeah you know they get very auto body. It's i see what's going on the outside and nothing if they have trouble catching the world is real important in that way. And that's what that one is not something. I disassociate a lot. Have that problem and that is something. I'm going back to therapy to deal with. Now that i've dealt with other things i can deal with this because i can't attach to people or feel close to anybody. It's not a good feeling. And i hate it so i want to figure that out. So i get the dissociation part of it. Yeah good job markets from her. Did someone say volleyball. We did see volleyball. Go watch iq drum nine one four. And then you gave us in getting these costumes and you can join in the fun. Hell yeah. let's do it. Yeah and then the outburst we were talking about whether or not they're real or fake but amount but basically even if they're not real the doesn't matter the point is the reason with in. Here's to show what what does to you as you like creating measuring these moments as you know what what you're having to deal with contend with as you know you're creating doing all these things but then the next song is all eyes on me which yes yes. It's very good song. I love the way. It's films like beautiful lighting beautiful shots up close. I feel like this is where bo burnham shines right like we talked about his anxiety performing live and how a part of that ends up with people needing to feel like they are in control and when you have life things you just loose control right like you can't control everything because there's an audience that you can't control you know you might have to end up kicking someone out in the middle of your show or there's stuff that will go wrong technically or people backstage whatever the reason or you just feel off that day like there's so many aspects to it that i think would hinder the process but this whole thing being done at home. Digitally is hard and it. It is hard mentally on mental health. But it's also good. Because i feel like he gets to do all of this and create a masterpiece yet. In reminds me of specialty always ends at a big moment like this big song. That sounds like it could be a pop song on the radio so good. I would love that. I would love. Just we turn on the radio one day. I don't know who listens to radio anymore. But a bo burnham song which is on there. I was in a car. The election i had rented in. We were like listening to the radio and she was like connecting our phone. And i was like no no. Let's hear some of the radio. How ended up. Yeah we ended up on random spanish station house vibrant nice and then it was like we'll talking we listen to put it on something else. I'm like okay. Let's just playing reggae tone. Probably got its. It's all music now. It's fine to that debt. Do anything that if you and.
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"What's triggering bob. And i was like waking up. I don't know is dreary whose thoughts and a lot of work to get through that. And i'm in a much better place now but it's it's when you live with these things than so it becomes so easy to joke about in ways that i see here in this comedy special agreed. Then we get the first song about jeff. Jeff bezos jeffrey bed. Those get free bathhouse guy. Such a fucking bangor of a song for no reason. It should not be so good. All these songs shouldn't be that good. I listen to comedy songs on ironically. Gli like weird out like ninja. Sex party like stephen lynch like these things they're usually by the courts. Five concourse do usually not good songs funny and then you listened to them for a little while they're funny and then the comedy of it dies these beck around in a year or two. Yeah those are just fucking good. Like i want to listen to the jeffrey bezos. All the time ave is literally like a musician is you can tell you fucking gets an also different bases the that he like you. Did you wind. That is my favorite fucking line of sucks why he just one capitalism. You did it jeffrey. Basis we're daring. And i are constantly talking about how you could just solve. Every problem in the world he could. There's there's tweets. All the time saying he could be batman he could do anything and he doesn't want to know something. Maybe you already know this but you know baby boy. Basil's owns the washington post. Yes i do know that. And did you know that. When he got caught with the scandal about his girlfriend and the messages he had the washington post run a story about how he got hacked by. I don't remember syrians or some shit like that. And like that was the story they ran instead of being like bases like dick guys pizza. How about entrepreneur. Jeff bezos gets hacked by foreign guy. He's share and guys remember to use the amazon on prime sub to give us hit jeffrey existence. Bunny and support the podcast. You know what. I really wish would happen. I really wish i really wish. One of my leftist commented commentary is why. I'm so strong willed about like everything i think about the left but one of them said the other day is like i just don't understand why i can't have a button on amazon. I can pay a little more so my delivery guy doesn't have to pee in a bucket and i'm like you know that's a great point. I would add extra dollar to every one of my orders to make sure that my daughter we see him off too. Because that's the same problem with tipping waiters waitresses. It's like we didn't pay people to for companies to get away with this shit. Yeah it's totally right. You're totally right. They did a study on the Because you don't have mcdonalds like we can't pay everybody fifteen dollars because it will make the prices go up and it will be pissed about it. I think they did the math. Somebody to the mat and the big mac would go up forty cents to pay too much money for me to too much four much. My my hard earned cava and now fails serves that ship note. I need my fucking big macs at discount. Baby and then markets get close to the camera chemicals the camera because camera now. It's time for a little sexy time. Bo burnham sexy sexy. Sexting marcus for this close to the camera. Tell me about out. Sorry this coast of the camera. Tell me about a sexting experience. You had tell me in your deepest ultra voice. i don't remember any sex. Got about ten chassis. Someone next to your mom who yet and it's nine. Oh yeah one time. I sent a semi semi Penis to somebody. And actually i would never do that with Haven't go but so so i to girl and said hey. Do i send you a picture of this this sexy and then then they got it and then they never messed up you back. Nice and over to masan sexy. I thought for this episode. You would make a game where it had to make up songs. So i was like what are channel like rethink anxiety right. I was trying to plan ahead like okay if he asks me to improv on. What can i possibly improv on. So in my head and made up a story about a man who who goes to work nine to five comes home and he's heartless go. Yes sing it. I can't. I can't a kid. He's got to start from. The premise is funnier than the soccer kit apprentice going. I'll sing it. I'll say okay. I'll give you the pros. Men works to five comes home from his long day right he goes he scrolling through his phone relaxing and he sees just a woman's that he thinks is beautiful and in she's was beautiful woman he's ever seen and it's like someone that used to go to high school with and had a crush on but but he can't put into words. How beautiful she is in how she makes him feel about himself. And so instead he sends her dick pic. That was the private. That was the song i had in my head and it was going to have like it was going to describe her beauty and then end with the joke of he center addicted instead. Ko k- a here is here is my rendition of love. A dick pic. Love woke up to Phelan kinda sad. I thought i would go to work. See what. I can have had of five every day. Then i go home and i cry. 'cause ain't got a woman in love not even someone to say good bye but then a third of kirsch school and i thought it isn't too much to read number. But not a nice guy. Senate a dick pic musonda dick pic accident. Yeah senate dick pic accidentally addict pick exit dent rate. Yeah gop blocked. Nice nice beautiful. Thank you thank you for turning up my idea into reality nick. Marcus literally anytime. I got your. I appreciate it guys. Comedy is hard.
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"Of the conversation. Like i know there's racist that's it. Yeah but now you say okay. I feel like that's okay. We don't have to talk about this again. That's that's the opposite of what you say because you're saying he people aren't doing anything about it. People are alert to and then not taking action. But then you're also saying on the opposite side that people are yelling too much about rights and then be woke and stuff so which doing stop doing stuff like actively doing stuff. That's the that's the hard part about. Dylan's league van. bring it back to bogota. Isn't the hard part about knowing what is wrong with the world and not knowing what to do. People don't know what actions to take. I sat here during the black lives. Matter protests during everything that was going on not knowing what the fuck my responsibility was what my party is right as as someone who supports these views but doesn't know what the fuck should be doing. I don't have money to be donating all the time to to these organizations. I don't have. I can show up but like what else am i supposed to do. I vote lake. It's it's hard and this song brings that point to light that it's hard to know that there's so many issues going on in the world and you are a victim of it and it's also at the same time your responsibility to somehow do something about it. Even though the systems are designed to focus over yup sucks. And i hate it. Yeah yeah yeah. And that's all i'm saying. I think that's the problem right. Like people are abused. People don't know what to do. You know it's not an in india right. i understand end of itself. There's nothing wrong with being alert. That's rate everyone should be alert. But people take that phrase of everyone needs to be alert and painted in the use it for felony and they use it to the entire democratic rep. The reason i the reason. I think i feel so strongly about it is the entire democratic party is based on. Whoa kness. it's based on. We support these things. We support the middle class. We support gay people. We support black people. We support hispanics and then they don't do anything about those things. They still work with our. No i agree both both sides are virtuous signaling in different ways one virtue about america and bathing at the other side virtue signals about wellness. I think you're right on that front. I think politician. I think it just hurts me more. Because saying i think it's just hurts me. More is the one side is saying this side with me and then they don't do anything or you know let's say i get that one hundred percent more sensitive to that side. You're like the other side. I know is racist and doesn't give a shit about me. That's never talked. I have. I have nothing to say about right. There's nothing to say. I walk into the room and they should be just talking about purchasing. It actually segues great to his next bit because the next bit was being brandon bass ambassador. Right he was pretending to be the guy that bugles nike calls when they need to put like a bright slogan on their thing and he tended to be like that guy. He's like yeah yeah her she calls me when they they they they they they need to. They need to prove that they're walk key like did that whole bit. Which is so which is so funny. Because how can he does this so well right. He makes us ask the question without giving us the answer. Moshe fucking do that and he also brings since the light like we were talking about earlier that we have so many things that we are worried about that we see is obvious right like people see the virtue signal inc. corporations are fucking hiding it like you. Everyone knows it's happening. It's just like what the fuck you gonna even to. Yeah and then at the people it works. Yeah it's part of the existential comedy. That is bo burnham. Like i don't know wrist but like you said you're supposed to do. I'm not supposed to shop at amazon. I'm not supposed to eat at chick fillet not supposed to bike. Gloria like. I like the list long doing man. Oh that one hit hard. I never be honest that i still have that going to get rid of it. I'm not going to buy the worse that it's run by people that are related to people in our family and honestly that's unlike some of my family members. Same same hundred. How do how do you contend with that. It is a to contend with it on and we have to that. We had a nice little respite because we are white women in women's instagram. Man yes i take down with white women beautiful. It was so thick and my favorite thing to come out of. This is how a lot of people have been using the song on tiktok to show exactly in call themselves out for being those white women. It's pretty buddy. How i posted a picture. That was like how he was describing at my instagram. If you look at yeah we're all white women some a little bit. Yeah ooh what. We should do this upcoming week issue. We should both try to take our whitest woman. Instagram mona to the now try this instrument guys tweeted us at this gas. We will get your mess white woman but we talked about Especially like the aspect. He changed to like a square. 'cause fucking instagram fucking genius. Yeah and he. The guy did not cut any corners. No all those shots looked so professionals. The ones laying down the pumpkin. He had a again like the the rainbow cardboard thing or the the rain. The black and white with the rainbow with a for the first with the washed out in the blue is the cactus. That's it was. It was exactly what it is. Also active ratio he went through the whole saami white women and their the instagram's and basic nece but also change the aspect ratio for a second when it got real and she posted about her mom. And i feel like that was in his way. Yes he's making fun of these people but also realizing that they too are just people trying to exist in the world where you have to post something all time and be a part of the world via part of conversations constantly and bell in that way. He relates to these women. Yeah like yes. Nobody likes basic people. But at the at our core we all kind of want wanna be a little basic one hundred percent. It'd be nice. If i could do everything i cared about and just like be the perfect. Capitalists paulin jor. It sounds nice impacts give it to me so after this great song we have is just a quick stand up. Bit were eased. Can anyone shut the fuck up. I love when bo burnham. I was reading an article that was describing bo burnham at the beginning and it's like when he first got introduced to the standup comedy when he started doing comedy he had no idea what it was like being in front of a live audience right and how and they talked about. How formative that was who he was as a comedian in that how it gave him a like exactly like he gave it to him because he went from one space to a different one and it was different. But i i always love when he's like a little He's like he tries to do the classic standup bits. That's almost him like paying homage but also him like tearing it down to its base in know and he's done this bit forever. He did that in words. Words words. i'm just gonna do a straight up regular stand up bit per second year my company and he was like oh my god. I've been married sixteen. You know as a nineteen year old kid and it's just it's just a bit. He always us. I really appreciate him. It's it's nice to see that. Oh and you know what it reminds me of. I'm sure you've seen it. I honestly i watched it like every year. So his episode when he's on the green room with life time.
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"Same point without seeming disingenuous and at the same time. I don't think he's going off at this. Point of being self referential and meta because he's literally the lyrics of the song are wasting time face timing with my mom and i remember sitting there during the pandemic meeting to waste time needing to not watch another. Tv show again needing to not do the same thing again needing to call someone just to fill the time. There was so much time we had more time than we ever knew what to do it. So like true wasting time facing base timing somebody so many more people facetime zoom people than ever before like zoom wasn't a thing before the pandemic right. It was some random office thing nobody knew about. And now it's every now it's everywhere. Everyone uses everyone because they needed to waste time based timing but yeah i like the song. It's reliable it was great. He fought with aspect ratio. Few times. I also like the way. He's zooms in like anxious. Moments uses the camera to really like getting close. It's media cinematic. It shouldn't be that cinematic because it. 'cause he's shucks supposing at with his messy place where he literally you can tell you. Just turn the camera on and then it switches to the cinematic moment that he had a completely set like. I appreciate that moment. In the is near the beginning where he's like taking a tape measure and like measuring is markets. I don't know if you know this. But when i'm sitting here i get something to control my my my my focus. I can't reach it because my cameras over there. Like a real like marcus. The cameras over there. How do you focus it. That's fair you need to measure it in like get out. That's real in israel so the fact that this cinematic at all is while it's amazing. He ended up itself. I mean that beautiful shot that he has of him laying down with all the equipment surrounding him and he's just like laying in a blanket talking into the microphone. Beautiful shot painstaking. Sticking he with every single wire and that shot he probably was swine. No and then after we get how the world works. The next saw the world works the great he An awesome look at again lighting where he used red and orange to make it seems as And like he wears a striped shirt. Like burt and ernie and he totally has a sesame street. Yes and he to go. I feel like he used a lot of like i could remembering. But i feel like they're worse a good amount of under lighting which usually because there's no natural light that comes from the ground is usually used in lighting design to emphasize something dark or something supernatural or whatever are ominous which he tallied. It is appropriate for some toilet and he sings a sesame street song about how the world works straight to camera and then he has a great moment with us puppet. Yes fucking it's hilarious song comment on the world. It's gotta remember during the pandemic we also had you know huge black lives matter movement protests. And it's something that he is commenting on right. He'd comments on it on it in this song and also in the comedy song where he's like. What is my place in the world. What is my responsibility. I had that question. You see the eagles of the world you understand the truth of the world. He's not saying that something that only he knows and he has the answer to. He's only the only one woke enough in the world to realize what's going on. He sees the injustices but also what the fuck are you supposed to do that yet. Italian toast that line really well of being woke and calling out the wo- kness right. Yeah woke kness in and of itself is a little hypocritical right like when you are woke to a certain degree you are alienating people that makes you not woke you know like the in and of itself. That is a thing that happens. You know i'm gonna say depending on the situation situation by situation. Yeah i almost. I almost always disagree. Because yes you should you should respect people and you should look at the world a certain way but when you make that the dogma of the world not everybody's there yet and that's it creates such divides bat caused such divisive divisiveness in think that there are sure i understand what you're saying but there degrees just like with everything else i disagree. I think i think. I think saying i think but so you think all will you think all woke. This is bad. You think thinking that people deserve rights is bad no no thinking of. I don't think the thinking of people naming rights as bad. I think the shouting in someone's face is bad. I see you're saying that the approach. But that's what i'm saying. Not everyone's approach shouting it into people's faces then that's not like woke means right woke is like shutting from the hilltops it. That's what you were saying woke means. I think it is what it means. I don't think it is. I'm gonna disagree. We're gonna disagree on this. Move on the google. Talk to you later. I don't think that you're googling. Woke up as the past tense of wake. We figure this out. Nice nice nice nice. I think i mean. I feel like if you're on the i don't know it depends on your political stance. I feel like certain people can see this as as a problem. And i think that it can be a problem if it goes too far to the point where you are no longer listening and understanding and trying to empathize with the other side. But i don't think it's inherently bad. I think the problem is the last thing i'll say about it. I think the problem is in and of itself in a vacuum woke us has no problem. It's about like the definitions literally alert to injustice in society especially racism. That's great you totally do those. Thanks andrea ever. It's alert to know you are aware of. It doesn't mean that's the part. That is the wake i am awake to the world. My eyes are open. There is no yelling about it but it is weaponized so so so so much by so many people and you and people use saying woke and saying these things out loud as if that is like nancy pelosi where can take clause outside of the capitol building right. she's being woke she is signaling to wo- culture she's virtue signal like she is saying woke. I understand their problems and injustices in virtue. Signaling is different than just. The word woke people are used. Who accompanies virtue signal. All the time politicians virtue signal all the time. Fucking pride bump. We just went through a whole fucking month of virtue. Signally and apple are aware of it. Understand fight it well known up saying not. Everybody does a sure but people people see it. I mean right now. I'm seeing a bunch of beam since july. I if people being like the rainbow slowly fading away and it's like corporations now. That pride month is over. You know like i mean to me ms kind of everywhere now. People are acknowledged that virtue signaling happens and that the are just flawed inherently and people are going to abuse systems. But that doesn't mean that being aware of the fallacies of the world around us is bad. I think that there's an issue with a term wokers been tainted by certain groups of peter. That's the problem. I think the problem is people. Think being alert to it is the end.
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"Mike i don't know what the fuck you're talking about shit about that. But he's catch so office and my mother in law's house. No it's like fuck fuck you man. That's not comedy anymore. This is fucking comedy but they make a good point. They're making good points in the check that this is it perfectly captures twenty twenty in a way that i don't think anything else. Well i agree with you. I told you you're going to study this in school and classes. And they're going to talk about this for years and and it's self aware i think that's the i think that's the self-awareness is bo burnham. Spit right like that's always been his bit. He is like he literally. During one of his specialties. Like hey so appreciate this and this is crazy that i get to do this. Are i'm gonna go back into my persona. He's he likes. He's like in on the joke like you know he. I was going to say no. Go ahead no go ahead. I was gonna say eight. It's it's something that i feel like. I can relate to lot. And i don't know if you're the same way but when you are at just you're a t. l. which doesn't send for atlanta. Is the joke that he makes when you are. I'm low at all time. Low mentally and your mental health is just frayed and and and fragile. And it feels like you're going to go crazy because you just don't know what's going to happen next killing yourself and you just fucking. I don't know you've had it with the world yet. Sometimes i feel like that's when i'm my most creative and when my funniest and when i'm at my best you know and i feel like i see that indus i see that he's genuinely going through it but then it's also that like pain and suffering and anguish that pushes him to be better. Yeah well it's interesting right. Because that could not be the case right like he could have made this when he was at his sharpest in best. That's the thing. That's the thing about this that i kind of wish there was more dialogue about because a you know he is. He's not he hasn't really talked about it too much right now. He this special could one hundred percent be. We saw all of it. We saw him making the things but bo burnham's genius. He could have spent six months writing out a script for every single. Beat in this thing before he even filmed the goddamn every moment. Every accidental camera fall. That could a hundred percent a hundred percent on purpose or could one hundred percents seib us be seeing his anguish at the moment like halfway through the film he turns thirty. He is sitting there in the middle of the room with an alarm clock counting down the last two minutes of twenty nine th year. Marcus that is twenty nine year. I don't think so or did or is a real. Did he really film it. I don't know that's the thing. he agreed. What do that he would do that. And don't judging a looking at everything else and and analyzing it. He is so careful with what he chooses to show and how he chooses to show it that. I do think everything is planned to a t and that's how people with really bad things. I d work. I he things planned out. I need to kind of have set times for things. Because it stresses me out. When i don't have some kind of structure and know how everything's going to go beforehand so i imagine that he's similar in that way but also at the same time there's a moment's maybe a two quarters of the way through where he's talking about. He's talking about whether or not he's gonna finish it and he is in front of the clouds with his hoodie up and he's like trying to get out words and it takes them a couple of times. Is that real. Or there's time during one of the songs which i really related to what he started the song and he messed up really early adding talk and he just started again the markets. That's how i do my takes it home. I do that all the time. I'm like really hard to myself. And i'm sitting there like all right. Honda fuck already honda. Civics are coming. Your way next onto civics are coming in you know. Did he plan that. Or is there a real. I know but it's not the but also it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because if it was planned that makes more sense than if it wasn't planned because he's a comedy genius. He could've decided to leave things. Right like indiana. He's the one editing. He's the one figuring it out so he chose east still made an artistic choice to leave that stuff in and show us whatever he decides to show us all but also referred to just be that. I think actually emphasizes the fact that this is kind of organic or him being freshly Shaved saying oh. This is the last song. It's not that in yet and then immediately cut him to singing that same song fully bearded think he really might have film. That might have been footage of him filming the final song near the beginning. Because that's how right at the end and that just happened to be his like if you look at that thing. It's so. I mean he don't purpose but it looks so simple compared to now sliding wise. Yeah he really. That really could have been. I first rough cut tape. And then he turned it into art by dubbing over it with him fully bearded at the end of this whole experience and you see the juxtaposition. I some of it. I think it's i think it's probably i think that was real. I think some of it was real. I was like ninety ten. Maybe i i do think he seems so careful with everything that everything seems plan. But i think you're right about that point. I think that that part in parts like that. Maybe he had certain things planned in the end didn't have the whole thing planned but finish it up and put it together in a way. That was like perfect in like in the beginning when he's in talking at a himself in the mirror and he's like oh. This is my room. this is where. I'm filming an embark on this endeavor and he himself off. That could've been i don. I get what you're saying. That could have been planned in. That could have also not been planned. So i i hate to do. We will talk more about the special ended up itself. But i would hate to do a disservice to some of these really funny so the first like i think like real like funny songs. And it's weird because the comedy special super super didactic in its ability to be super self-referential and meta but then kind of bo burnham will still go into his normal comedy science his first song. That could be anywhere. He could have just released as music video bin space time with my mom yes do the pandemic innocence but then also could only stand on its own and it was honestly again energy genius song. As soon as the song started the aspect ratio changed to yes time screen at a phone and he sang a song about based on me with his mom. And it's so fucking relatable like you said like how is he saying the thing they were all thinking yeah marquette. How many times did you call your mom. During the pandemic hundred percent called her twice during the year and a half pandemics. She's she was doing great both times. Just kidding i also didn't talk to my mom that watch it was. I was so anxious about it. It was hard. I feel like my family also doesn't talk a lot but we did hang out with each other you know. I got proper mom time during the pandemic but it is is another relatable song. It's something that we all have had to go through the millions. Zoom calls didn't talk about. I also will appreciate this. That he didn't overstepped his bounds. S comedians. i feel like people tend to talk about things that they know are in the zych sonora popular but can't relate to right like if you try to tell me that a millionaire fucking median is going to talk about like what it's like to go to the office every day. It's disingenuous i i to me. You don't have that experience rates until the millionaire next time his mom. Yeah so exactly. So four bo burnham to come out with this song about how terrible zoom meetings are does it make any fucking sense to me but for him to talk about a face timing. His bob great cool. That's relatable we both done that. It gets hit the.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Now Try This
"Just it's just super interesting so i agree one hundred percent. It's this performance is artistic right in order. good comedian. You need to be able to empathize and understand what your audience is going through. And and tap into that right. That's what makes burnham a good creator because he's able to see himself talk about himself and then also create a connection with the audience and so by doing that. I mean that's why he is great at at comedy. And that's also why he's just a great khan a creator. In general remember the movie eighth grade we talked about that in another episode right so cringe. It's so many moments in just made you feel for the characters because o'byrne him someone who understands human condition and what it means to be a person in society today so there's so much talk about. We could talk about just the existential of this but there's many specifics that i feel like we need to get your interesting that we definitely need to get into it. So the whole the whole thing is almost a commentary on his last special right the one where he was having panic attacks of happy because the opening of this special and i'm sure you notice that same broom it's that same feeling. It's like his house behind his house. Like it's like a little kid her studio for his kind of yeah. I said you probably goes there. That's what it seems like by context clues because he does rent out just student he has now. He makes to these jokes about giving away his money to not have money. I know i was wondering what the space was because i was curious if he found himself and did everything ourselves than what is this house his house that he lives in. I think it is. I feel like it's has house behind his house like it's guest house or something. But anyway he starts off with his intro song and he starts. I honestly this the first song right away. The intro song is like such you opt for exactly what this thing is going to be because the first it's content is the name of the song and he does that. Great thing where he's just like sitting there in a chair where you see all the lights and everything. So it establishes you're going to see the backbone of this you're gonna see the you're going to see how he is making this rice and it says it up right away and he has this weird thing on his head and you're like what is this and then the puck and disco ball thing and i'm like yes. Oh you already showed me like. You're more of a genius. And i would ever be and this just started like it's scary. At how much of a genius. Bo burnham is and i i am alarmed by it someone could be so and so talented in so many different ways. I mean if you look at this this piece of work. It's cinematography is incredible. And the way that he uses lighting design in the way that he used certain shots and angles. He's he's pulling from like crafts. That require years in years of of of study and work and mastery all of them or at least presenting them in a way that they are like masterfully. Shot in done. And it's it's awesome. You know it's great to see. Such great lighting design a editing. Every single piece of this is done with your raft. Can't believe he did he he you could tell he's study and he like a key like he didn't nail that does golfing on the first try right. Like he's yeah off of that or he had an idea and e you know. It's funny. Because i feel like you're the same where you always have these funny ideas about things to do and you're like i'll try that sometime and he can't but you don't have time right no. He said he had the time to figure out. Like how lighting worked and how to listen to himself and how to like. But you're right. The lighting design specifically especially you who have come from lighting design background. You have designed lights for shows you know you get it more than the lamet In i i kind of appreciate it but like the things going on lighting again. We can talk days because that's a mode. Talent reoccur reoccurring jokes. He sets like so many things just with the lights. Every part of it is well so fucking. Well thought out right. I was watching it. And the darren pointed out that on the a c. The only time it's on during the whole show is during one scene and it's on sixty nine degrees like just as an extra little joke right. It's just so so. Many things are just so out. And i noticed that for in the beginning of of the special. There's a split second where you see the his twitch twitch his its interests like winners what this win an hour and thirteen minutes and forty one seconds left in the special i wrote down i saw. Oh no in. The beginning happened in the first. Five minutes of this getting should happen again at one thirty one. Oh really yeah no happens early on in the special in one the first few moments it's like on for a single frame and it's like what that's another thing to analyze and dig deep into. What is he trying to save that. Why is he saying that. These are the moments that are controlled by this other character that he's created it's so deep it's just deep for so many reasons every fucking part of it is just so fucking good and it makes me angry because forever brain as one of the greatest pieces of fucking content ever made speaking of content at the same time of doing all of those things in having an existential crisis having like mental acuity gymnastics. It's also got like silly songs right. Yes her song is first real song. Comedy is like a meta commentary whether he should even be doing comedy right now. Comedy over with. Can you leave the world better. He literally says like. Should i be joking at a time like this right. Because that's the oh my god fucking guy fucking genius berta mother fucking piece of shit. Hate that guy love him. He's beautiful and talented but like this is exactly the thing i'm talking about. He is saying thoughts. That we've all fucking had which seems like something. Every comedian should be able to do but they fucking don't how many times about watching comedy special..
"bo burnham" Discussed on Now Try This
"Like at least. This is how i always feel. I always feel like. I'm either on the brink of everything falling apart or i'm on the cusp of good things right. It never feels completely good in every appeals. You're you never cured of your mental issues so it always feels kind of like you're on the precipice so that feeling of being on the precipice and then the pandemic happening. It happened for so many people. I mean when you're when you're working through stop. It's it's constant work. It's constant struggle and it's always constant of this next one after this after this next week next month next year next year is going to be my near. Yeah actually. I'm going to focus on this next year. So i can't imagine how many people myself included in that in toward twenty twenty. We were sitting there and it was like okay. Okay this is gonna be. This is going to be what's happening. And then the world shuts down. But i like like bo burnham in a way that it is relatable that we all got second side we have to figure out what we're gonna do in and course correct our entire distance. A lot of people made the most of it too. And i feel like bo. Burnham is one of those people that definitely had had the opportunity to sit down and really unfortunately or fortunately for us sit and reflect and look at himself figure out who he was the person and what everything means to him. And what's going on in the world right so interesting. Yeah because what you just said. I think is super. I know if it's most people. I don't know the statistics. But i do know that when you do look at us. Ticks of people who faced unemployment during the pandemic and now a lot of markets are having trouble bringing people back to work and the right wing would. Have you believe that people are lazy and just want to collect checks but when you look at the statistics there are states. That took away the extra unemployment and their problems didn't get better because with a year all these people for the first time in their lives. Most of them to lack right. We got a chance to reflect it who we were. What was important. I'll we wanted to spend our time. Yeah in bo. Burnham is the same way and he decided to spend his time making us laugh. And you also. I feel like we could talk about ourselves for quick sec. Entered the pattern. You talk about me. You could talk about you. But moss way man you like you put your you put an effort. You quit your job. You changed your life. You're putting you in in harm's way and and you you you made a change and that was incredibly hard to do because burnham talks about it in this special that waking up and deciding to put on your shoes in gret dressed during the pandemic was a hard thing to fucking. Do i really that depression. I related that so much. I lost eighty pounds over the pandemic completely changed my lifestyle and my life learned how to cook. Quit my job realize that i need to perform it now and here i time saying it on the podcast. I just had an audition. And i landed your boys going to be performing off broadway improv. I'm gonna be doing comedy so like pandemic didn't thank you if the pandemic didn't happen if i didn't have time to reflect on what was going on i wouldn't be here. I wouldn't be healthy. I wouldn't be happy. I wouldn't be performing again. I wouldn't be doing those things. So you're you're completely right and it's funny that you said the pants thing because one of the ways that i kept my mental acuity during the pandemic was i gave myself small victories every day during the pandemic i was one of the few people i put on jeans or pants every single day. I didn't walk around in shorts. I did not walk around. In sweats. I was like i need to wake up and shower. Anita put on pants start my day as a chance to just completed everything. What about you how. How was your how is it. How is how were you doing before during and after now you don't have to get into depth by what your mental illnesses are or how it affected you can but i do wanna know how you were before during and after sure before we get into what the specialist. Because that's what the special is right. One hundred percent the special enemies talking about these things reflecting your self respecting on your own to health. And it's about our funding. Yeah specifically but also the ways in which he is a relatable person and so as someone who has dealt with mental health issues my whole life. I've a- pandemic. Wasn't that bad for me like i feel lucky. I really had more freedom than i've ever had. Because i feel like. I've i'm stuck in this corporate chain and i'm having to to go to work do this and spend so much time and energy on projects that i honestly don't give two shits about and when i was working from home i got to relax and i got to spend time with my girlfriend who. I was happy to be spending time with and watch tv. While i'm working and cook more. And i would go on runs on my lunch break. Because i i at home and i can change quickly and shower and i trained for marathon ran the marathon and did really well and i just so many things but i put you on blast about it. Sure like i was in a bad place in the pandemic. Let me go to a good place. You were in a good place when the pandemic started because the work you had done the two or three years before that marcus. You also lost an incredible amount of weight. Change your life. You added at least two decades to your life. You had done this. You're seriously you have done that. You went to therapy. Started working on your issues. You self-afflicted reflected instead. I'm not happy. And i would like to be an you started to do the work. That's what the special is about right like that was able to turn the face at and for people like you were doing the work. You should be so fucking proud. Because marcus how could you could you the head of the pandemic i've years ago. Oh i would myself one hundred percent. I'm not laughing. Because i know you're serious. Yeah i am serious because of the work. You fucking yes. It is true it is true. I appreciate that. But that's the thing too. Because i feel like the the pandemic was so hard and everyone but in such a way that is relatable and have varied so greatly. But it's shared trauma that we all have now because we've all had to kind of deal with a major life change. It is to find us on anything that shared experience that we all have is. What makes his comedy special. So good right because it's this. It's this thing that people are having a hard time talking about and discussing. Comedians are joking about it in a way. That is entertaining right now. People want to ignore it. People want to forget about people. Don't handle it. most people can't figure it out. They can try but they can't figure it out. Most people can't figure out how to navigate a compensation regarding covid end and all that stuff especially since there's so much like political shit around it too. I feel like the only person i've seen even remotely well as chapelle did a little bit. When he was like like he had that whole diatribe for five minutes where he wasn't even fucking trying to be funny and he wasn't really funny just talking about. Did you see that. He was at a light comedy show and it was comedy show and he would just like look. I'm just gonna talk for like a couple of minutes. Talked about what was going on and it would just like super like it was like this right. I would totally put dave chapelle dave shabazz one of the best comedians ever. Maybe the best. That's currently alive. I'm not saying bo burnham and him are the same. But i am saying they both have that thing of self actualization about their comedy right like they know what it means. They know their purpose in it. And they know like bo burnham he made the special because she needed it and he needed to share it. And that's what art is so it's it's.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Now Try This
"Corporate corporation is honestly. Maybe be some questions. Do you want to hear a couple of questions. Yeah hemi up. What is the name of the raccoon that steals john. Smith's biscuits rose koon but with five as is what it's called it's meco. I knew that there was there was also a great part where there was a guest there and he's saying ten snippets of songs and we had a guest the sound title and the movie was prom and he actually brushed it was really what a new york city thing to do. Yeah it was. It was really an wonder every corner ready to sing. Their showroom are one of them. We looked at disney princesses feet and we had to guess who they belong to. Oh yeah can you name the seven door. Smartest sleepy grumpy bashful Horny the one that is just bear for the rest of them to have sex with sex. Doll might be his name. The one that's on the spectrum call him. Dopey dopey doping very inappropriate. Why are you saying. He's on he's just maybe there's something something is something's up and they just call him doping college today Ken them yeah wonders miss. A it's a doc. Happy grumpy slee. Sleepy sneezy grumpy in basketball The seven deadly sins. I gotta guess yes. Yes your questions like that. We did okay but yes. That's enough about our lives. Because that's what people hear about people don't know shit about nick. Paul hair burnham yes they came here for a journalistic approach and dissection of netflix's newest comedy special inside by bo burnham. Marcus what the fuck is. Vote burnham's inside obama to put on glasses. I can see more intelligent. Also jeff fake glasses Swinney percent more intelligent and thirty percent less able to see burnham's inside is a comedy special. I say with air quotes that was on that flicks and aired in twenty twenty one towards the end of the pandemic. Yes yes yes. That's according to occupy hair. I'll read some of the wikipedia recorded in his home during covid nineteen pandemic without a crew or audience. It was released on netflix. On may thirtieth twenty twenty one it features a variety of songs and sketches. About his day to day life indoors he depicts his deteriorating mental health and explores themes of performance and his relationship to his audience. Other songs are about internet activities including calling one's mother on facetime taking photos for instagram and video game streaming argues. That was a great reading of coppee smarter because it follows his previous special. Make happy in twenty-six of step toward that was marcus. Why is your relationship with bo. Burnham nick burnsville. I wanted to i. I thought about giving this to you but i didn't because i was were concerned about talking about my mental health and the its its fragile state on twitch for too long and what it means to me that the special came out so i decided not to give it to you but patriots said no marcus. I am the capitalist monster. And if i give you money you must perform you silly monkey and so we are doing it now because you guys wanted it and i love bernie. I feel like he is in touch with the world in a way that takes a lot of intelligence and talent and empathy and sympathy for someone. So we'll get into more later. But nick was your first bo. Burnham experience words words words my first vote berm. Experience was his youtube videos See i did not know about until his comedy. Special central special words whereas i i was not looker of the internet. If i remember he had a captain crunch song or something like that when he was a kid and i like. I watched that one a lot. I it was something to do with the cereal companies. I'll have a meeting or something is so long ago. I don't remember. But i listened to that song a lot because it was really into comedy songs. I've always been into comedy songs. Love burnham love. Stephen lynch just i love all the songs that are on tiktok right now even though there are only a minute long but still fun platform for it. Yeah totally honestly. I don't know if i really experienced comedy songs in this way until beaubourg. But i remember i remember seeing this in college and i remember early on in our friendship. We connect it because we both had seen it and we like. Oh yeah yeah yeah. It was one of the early foundations of our friendship. So it's kinda cool. Come here full circle here. You didn't you didn't grow up on weird al yankovic and those guys. You didn't have any that i liked weird l. Ing kieth vic. Allot oh you gifted us up to one viewer. Yes yes we hear. This cast is generous. We just gifted us up to one of our watchers here on twitch now guys if you want to become follow us in subscribe on switch you can and if amazon prime hook up your account you gotta do it every month but it's free and it helps out the pod so guys go ahead as you're watching right now. Connect your amazon subscribe to the channel. It helps us out greatly oklahoma. I was gonna say that. I know i was could continue my point but i i love weird al yankovic a lot. And he's inspired generations of musical comedy and ninja sex party and and just everything new comedy. I'm a here for and i fucking love. Then there's this special this special is i'm not gonna call it a comedy special. I'm not gonna acknowledge it as a comedy special because schorr it is a comedy special but it is more apt to call it a one man show. Because that's what the fuck should is. It's a glorious one man. Show that i spent a lot of it on the verge of tears wanting to cry but also anytime by emotions rose to a peak. There is comedic relief and made me happy and i never cried fully during the special but i was close the whole time. Little context for the special burnham has made many specials some explicit netflix but by five years ago he stopped performing he stopped performing live and he said during his last special he was having panic attacks on stage and it wasn't healthy and he stopped stopped doing standup. He stopped doing live shows. He went in and directed eighth. He started a promising young woman. He did other things but he said he needed to focus on his mental health and then during the pandemic when everyone was Locked up he was also locked up and he made the special special says over a year to make and he made it completely by himself. He wrote it directed it he probably ordered all this stuff out for amazon. Got a son to that little house in the back of the house and he stayed there and he did all of this from. He's not in the beginning of the episode that he was like. Oh yes. I decided you know what i got help. I decided to get therapy and work myself. And then all of a sudden the pandemic happened. And i was stuck inside having to create special which is relatable because i feel like i feel like most people with mental. Health issues are on a constant pendulum. Right we're always on the verge one way or the other. It always feels.
"bo burnham" Discussed on Pop Culture Happy Hour
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"bo burnham" Discussed on Pop Culture Happy Hour
"This bo burnham special credits list a couple of producers and people who worked on inside in post production but this is a bo burnham peace through and through he performs it he wrote it he directed he filmed it. He did all the music You see him testing and setting up camera and sound equipment. He lit it. He did all of it he. It's indoors in one enclosed space. It does not look anything like traditional. Stand up which is to say. He does not do a lot of sitting in telling jokes. he's actually been out of stand up for the last years which he attributes to panic attacks and which you may know has allowed him to write and direct eighth grade and act in promising young woman among other things He's also gonna play. Larry bird in an hbo series which was another reminder of a thing that i always forget about him which is that. He is six foot five steven one of the reasons. I was so eager to talk about this special with you. Is that so much of it is music and it calls to mind a lot of music that you and i have both listened to. What did you think. I absolutely loved it and i did. Love the music which we're going to talk about in some detail but i also wanna talk about bowe burnham overall and the career trajectory that he has been on which has really been remarkable a you mentioned. He wrote and directed eighth grade which was one of my favorite movies of a few years back. It is deeply deeply empathetic movie. That is really hard wired with a deep understanding of social media and bo. burnham's background if you go all the way back to the beginning of his career. When he was a teenager he was a youtuber doing a lot of like little original songs. He's been doing the song for quite a while but he also just really understands how youtube works bit on this about twitch where he's doing he's parodying twitch gaming cold on this j b three months dude much-appreciated and he does so completely spot on and really funny. There's a bit about kind of emojis and sexting and face timing with your mom and all this stuff it's like well trod material to be making jokes about especially in the last year but he does it with really innate understanding and really innate empathy that just puts you on his side right away and he's just so gifted with everything he touches here. Yeah you know. I as you know have spent a lotta time like really struggling with with isolation did for the approximately year that i was mostly inside by myself and i. I really felt so weirdly seen by this even though you know i watched it and i kept feeling like this is uncomfortable. The accurate in some way that. I'm having trouble putting my finger on because i did not have this experience. I did not fall to pieces in a single room while filming myself singing pop songs but what i eventually came up with was like oh this is what the inside of my head looked like for a year like this this guy sitting at a keyboard and his underpants trying not to fall to pieces is what the inside of my head felt like and it's the first thing that i felt like i could show to somebody and say this is what it felt like for me and i was surprised by that a little bit because he's one of these guys who likes to kind of play with a line between sincerity and irony which is not rare in comedy in modern dude comedy. He does this sort of constantly under knowingly undercutting himself and it's very self deprecating in certain moments that kind of thing. I can find exhausting if you are not really really good at it. You gonna song very early. That's essentially him talking about the fact that he's a white guy who won't shut up. That's what the song is about. That was a moment. When i kind of thought like oh i don't i don't know if this is going to be for me because i can get quickly exhausted by people sort of acknowledging things as if that makes them less true sled. I felt that over the course of the special it is so empathetic and it is so resonant even though you know this is not a verite video diary right. It's a piece of theater and clearly. Some of the things that are kind of set up to look. Spontaneous are are not spontaneous. He wrote this special and it is a fascinating combination to me of really really funny and good little musical moments and again you don't have to love all of them because they sort of come and go in this very quick fashion. That doesn't make any sense. There's not necessarily any logic to the. It's not a musical with a narrative story that says why you're gonna get this song and the song it's just like it's him just trying not to go out of his head in his house. Did you have a. I want to know favorite song. Well i wanted to speak to a song. Captures some of the empathy that we've been talking about and it's basically about a white woman's instagram feed and it's got this very very catchy chorus about white woman's instagram and it's jumping through a lot of just kind of the different tropes that you see on.
'Eighth Grade' and the vagaries of awards season
"From the broadcast center at K P, C C. This is the frame I'm John horn on today's show could future Academy Award ceremonies honor the best screenplay written by an algorithm. Then why Bo Burnham the writer director of eighth grade channeled his feelings about the internet into the character of a thirteen year old girl, I I was very interested in young people flogging about their own life. And I watched hundreds and hundreds of videos and not to be cruel to the boys. But on average, the boys of this age talked about XBox and the girls this age talked about their souls and musician and photographer Anthony Wilson combines both disciplines for his latest release all that coming up on the frame. Welcome to the frame. I'm John horn. This Sunday, they'll be an Oscar for best original screenplay and for best adapted screenplay. But could there soon be a trophy for best screenplay written by an algorithm? We've known for years that technology is radically changing the way that movies are made. But what's remained fairly constant is the human screenwriter after all you can't make a movie without someone writing the script. Or can you if one artificial intelligence company has its way there's an algorithm out there that might be fighting for a share of the writing credit on the next studio blockbuster. We now revisit our peace with frame contributor, Colin freezing. Who explains it all if Robert Altman's movie, the player taught us anything it's that making a hit movie takes a lot of creativity. And frankly, guesswork psychic political thriller comedy with a heart with a heart and not unlike ghost meets entry and candidate conventional wisdom has it that no one ever knows exactly. Audiences want or what will get butts in the seats? But screenwriter William Goldman's aphorism that in Hollywood, no one knows anything may be changing. Here at the American film market in Santa Monica where the world comes to buy and sell movies. There's a company that thinks it can answer that question William Santer, Jack, Jan or with productivity media, and they're here to introduce an artificial intelligence program that will read your script analyze it for forty thousand data points or attributes then we'll tell you how to change it to make it more successful a horror film that features a ghost and the child imperilled has a eighty seven percent probability of overperforming. The benchmark the other day we actually had a conversation on. What kind of weapon with the youth in action film? We have all the kind of what kinds of breakdowns if you use a pistol compared to a handgun compared to a machine gun. We have all these planning or details of of these attributes you put all of that in and you go, you know, what if we changed the handgun to a bazooka this should outperform. We can we can see how it would into the program draws on a database of three thousand eight hundred films going back to the nineties it tracks what elements were in a movie, and how well that film did in any number of demographic groups computer will do a first run and say hope these are the potential elements, and you know, and we have recently started working on getting another layer people looking at those attributes and see, you know, how how actual relevant they are the story. So it's to stop. It's definitely a when you think about it. It's a complex problem solving. Right. The comedy drama or. Thriller. Their gold is to help any genre pitcher become the most successful version of itself. It can be they call it over performing the market or making sure you're cross generational buddy cop comedy with a dog does better than any other cross generational buddy cop comedy with a dog. It's like getting studio notes, but not from some slick executive with a gut feeling but from a coldly calculating cyborg. So it's just a tool set to I always say do one of two fundamental things. Number one is going to confirm what you believe to be true about your project or two it's going to give you an opportunity to ask another question. It all started just a couple of years ago. Jan an engineering student at the university of Waterloo in Canada, cold called the company called productivity media amid sized film. Finance firm Jiang was selling an algorithm that would predict how well a studio would do based on the movies. They were releasing. He. Intrigue the company decided to conduct an experiment using Jiang's database. They paid a film student. Make a trailer with all the key elements of a successful horror film impossible things a movie that doesn't really exist. Features of equestrian house in bath tub and a ghost in child in peril. It's honestly not much to look at. But the response on social media two point four million views was enough to tell them they were on the right track. But this feels like something we should resist to keep creativity alive. Monica Levinson is the president of production at shift Hans pitchers, the company has produced trombone and captain fantastic. And a ton of other. Well, reviewed dramas Levinson is not only skeptical, but worries that drawing on films that were successful sometimes formulaic retreads with mostly white actors might mean, there's no place at the table for new voices and diverse casting choices other things that we're trying to deal with now having more women characters and having better representation. And diversity and better representation of you know, just how characters behave all of that will be continued because that bias will continue from what worked in the past. That's not what works today, but productivity media says there's room in their analytics for all kinds of creative progressive choices take the gay coming of age drama and Oscar winner moonlight. When they ran that script through the algorithm. It determine the film would definitely find an audience before you also made tell based on two essential element in the film to have about eighty percent chance to before in the marketplace. And what was it about the movie that made you think we're made the algorithm think that it was going to do? Well, when we plugging, you know, a drama film with LGBT Salomonsson features African American. Essential elements, those the combination of those three already has a very significant influence on the outcome. But it does beg the question. If everyone is making a movie with the same elements won't that result him. Well, the same kind of movies coming out Santer says you need to think of it like music, if we said to heal whole bunch of musicians that we wanna song that's written in four four time in the key of c with this progression etcetera etcetera, etcetera, we're we're going to get you know, twenty different songs as for how screenwriters will react when. And if they're script feedback comes from an algorithm, maybe nNcholas cage playing version of screenwriter, Charlie Kaufman in adept Haitian, summed it up best sex or guns or car chases. I or characters you know. Learning profound life lessons or growing or coming to like each other or overcoming obstacles to succeed in the end. You know? I feel very strongly about this or the frame. I'm pollen freezing. Coming up on the frame our conversation with Bo Burnham the filmmaker behind eighth grade. He won the best original screenplay prize from the writers guild of America this past weekend. And he's nominated for best feature and best first screenplay at tomorrow's independent spirit awards. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn. Thanks for joining us tomorrow, independent filmmakers will gather under a massive tent set up in the parking lot next to the Santa Monica. Pier. To celebrate the spirit awards they honor movies typically made outside the studio system. Among the nominated movies is eighth grade. It's in the running for four awards including best feature. The comedian. Bo Burnham who made it big on the internet as a teenager with YouTube videos wrote and directed eighth grade. And earlier this month, he won the directors guild of America award for first feature film, eighth grade is about a thirteen year old girl named Kayla who makes self help videos from her bedroom. Kayla's played by the newcomer Elsie Fisher, and the movie immerses you in her point of view in one scene. She's lying in bed scrolling through social media while an NGO song plays in the background when I met. Bo. Burnham after eighth grade premiered at last year Sundance film. Festival. He told me how he was able to reach Enya to license. Her song for his movie was like do. I write a note on like a salmon and put it new Fridays. Like, how do you contact like, how do you? Like like, a smokes they go on the air.
Shock as Eighth Grade wins best original screenplay at the WGA Awards
"This past weekend, the writers guild of America announced its winners for the best screenplays of the last year and WGN voters ordered best original screenplay to a movie that wasn't even nominated for an Oscar Bo Burnham's eighth grade. Claudia Puig is the president of the L A. A film critics association and she joined me in studio today to discuss the WG, prizes and other trophies handed up by Hollywood's big guilds, we started by talking about eighth grade. It's such a terrific script. And it was such an oversight that it wasn't. I dominated that. And many of us have been upset about it. So it was really great to see this get the love it deserves. And I it doesn't surprise me that it's the writers because the writers a are used to being overlooked. So no. So of course, they you know, they were trying to correct that wrong. And I also think there's, you know, comedies of always kind of gotten short shrift, and it's not really a comedy per se, but it has comic elements and then films that are about about tweens and teens are kind of overlooked. I mean, I was thinking about like the movie to hate you give which was at least as good as bohemian rhapsody or green book or some of the others do get nominee for best pitcher completely overlooked because it has the Waie taint. And I think that in this case, right? You know, you hear the title eighth grade. And you just assume that maybe she was improvising. You don't realize how tightly scripted it was by Bo Burnham talk with Bo Burnham about his lead. Actress Elsie Fisher about a year ago when the film premiered at the Sundance film festival. So there was a long rehearsal process, which was mostly for the script mostly just to make sure that it sounded right? And if things didn't sound, right. It was always the scripts fault. What I was trying to capture what she was in many ways. So to have the real thing there. It's just you know, just completely subjugate myself to it.
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"And I'm not willing to work enough for that you play a scientist on television. We'll see Fisher MD veterinarians run CBS. Yeah. Exactly. And speaking of podcasts, I understand that you like dungeons and dragons and even have a podcast about that. I do I play dungeons and dragons with my friends, and we record it, and we recently had special person guest patent ause while on our podcast. And that was very cool was running what else cool on it reasonably here episodes not out yet. Okay. But it's coming up. Yeah. So we can tell you how to play. It was fun. We had fun. That's That's all all that that matters. matters. But I read that you try not to think of your future career. But I'd really love to know. Do you enjoy working as a director any plans for a love of your? I would love to do it again. I mean, it was most feeling thing I've ever done in my life for sure will you continue with anymore, standout. I hope so I hope to get back. I have to want to write stuff like field. And it's like right now, I don't feel urgently like I wanna get up and talk to everybody. It just feels like it's a time. Where a lot of people are getting up and talking, and I it was so much more exciting to collaborate with people. So yeah. But maybe maybe I'll go back. I've been writing stuff and Ben enjoying reading and just for my own sake. Bo Burnham and Elsie Fisher. Thank you for bringing the world one of the most best and most powerful films. I've seen in a long long time. And thank you so much for joining me today for this very special live at soda to matters here to be maxed in Los Angeles, California. This is the fourteenth year, I've been doing design matters. And I'd like to thank you for listening. And remember we could talk about making a difference. We can make a difference. What we can do.
House of Cards' Final Season Gets November Premiere Date — See Poster
"Hotels dot com trending online right now is house of cards net flicks revealed that house of cards is. Set. To premiere the six and final season on November second yes the first announced that we have of the premier date and we, know, that Kevin, Spacey's out after the numerous sexual misconduct allegations sober Robin. Wright we'll be, taking the spotlight as her character Claire Underwood and of course she is the, new commander in chief spoiler alert VM seeing the previous season but November, second from the sixth and final. Season will be on Netflix, the movie eighth grade is trending this is Bo Burnham's movie and it sounds like it's making a buzz on the internet because it's going to host free. Screenings for kids who couldn't go because of its are rating eighth grade is radar which Wrentham lot of middle schoolers from seeing a movie that aims to reflect their experiences. So to fix this problem Movie theaters eight twenty four they are screened. The film in. All fifty states will not be enforcing the r.. Rating eighth grade by Bo Burnham and Elliott. Golding is engaged the British singer songwriter and her boyfriend casper Jopling they have been married or the getting engaged you will be getting married and. They are trending right now because they shared the news this morning in the UK's marriage. Section of. The newspaper the times building has, been dating the New York based. Art dealer Jopling for eighteen months so congrats those, crazy kids has, Donald says that's what's trending. Here at mytalk now we'll take a quick look at. Your channel five eyewitness news weather forecast for the day we're going to. Have thunderstorms rolling through the twin cities high of eighty three loaves sixty four tomorrow for the cat video festival we're gonna have a few clouds high of eighty eight low of sixty eight currently seventy one degrees. And cloudy of my talk Now you know what we know more at mytalk one zero seven one dot com Silly song Some Anxious Welcome. Back it's us, again Donna in, Steve on, mytalk, one, zero seven. One everything entertainment Oh..