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"blue oval" Discussed on WDUN AM550
"I appreciate the cattlemen cattle back with us here in just a little bit away for another checking traffic, but for another chance for you to play and win. We got two out of three coming up. And we're gonna have a little fun with great American cookies and you, But right now, let's see what's going on with the good folks under the big Blue oval. That's green Ford on Brown's Bridge Road and course, Grover, the very young standing by with this morning, Grover. This morning. It's good to hear from you this morning. Same here, my friend and let's get the good news from green. Ford now is a great time to get behind the wheel of something brand new and get it rolling because we're moving toward the end of the year. That is so true. We have a lot of Great vehicles out here. You know, we have a lot of the 20 twenties remaining. You know, we have Ah. Great price and on those great rebates, Ono's and of course, you know you get the bad deal. You get a little extra savings as well. When yaks for Grover Young Green for this. Don't be afraid. Don't be hesitant. Don't be lazy, just acts form and I guarantee you will be very Help please With Joe Deal. As well as we got a lot of great use in Victoria's way of. I mean, we have everything from a bicycle tricycle escapes if it's got wheels on it, right. That's right as we is on in it. Roll way haven't got here for you. This is something that you like, won't our need. Check it out, folks always there to serve you. And of course, the bear would love to have to give him a buzz getting his agenda for the day. Simple to do Just just call him right. That's right. You can. I'm gonna change this number given myself. No, I want you to call me directly here. Green forward 77053256. 2077053 to 56 to zero extra Grover Young. That fella. They call the bear. It gives the bear deal now calling next formal. It's set in the apartment. And let's get your own in here. Let you go for that jar rise. And, uh, we'll get you in the vehicle. Of course. You know, we have great finance. Sure makes it a lot easier. Yeah, uh, call me. Let me get you on the docket. There you go. Do it day, folks. And of course you're gonna drive away singing. Come on down and see the bear. He's a man and really cares. Come on down to his honey hole. He's waiting on you at the big blue over Grover oppression, pleasures Always you are shining just as bright as the sun Go out there and make somebody's day. Yes, sir. And I'll do my best and I'll be blessed his way of Thank you, sir. Do appreciate that. Do appreciate it. We continue with mornings on Main Street. Glad to have you along with us as we do so and did get a kind of a look here. It Some of the were told about this being national fast Food Day if you want to celebrate that go for it, but I did see here where they have the world's most expensive. Hot dog. Which came out about six years ago in the city of Seattle in Washington state..
"blue oval" Discussed on Cars That Matter
"This is Robert Ross with another episode of cars that matter and today my guest is Wayne Carini who everybody knows Wayne Wayne's the host of chasing classic cars and incredibly Popular Program about finding gyms in the rough Wayne's also owner of f Forty Motor Sports Portland Connecticut I'm going to call that as day job and what a job it is Wayne Welcome to the program during us to be with. . Obviously we're talking coast to coast I'm here in Los Angeles, , and you're on the eastern side of the US and were doing this by way of Zoom. . So it's not in the studio, , but it allows some long distance conversation really in much the same way that you probably deal with. . So many of the collectors nowadays things have certainly changed for all of us in the way that we communicate and weighed. . The options are being held virtual car shows everything's changed slightly only. . It's just for short periods. . We'll talk about some of those things both the short-term effects maybe some of the long term positive benefits that come from this, it's , hard to imagine there are any, , but they're actually might be but instead of going forward in time, , let's go back in time for a second. . Let me just ask you the obvious. . Question a lifetime love affair with cars, , full classics, , postwar sports, , and racing cars, , and probably even some modern collectibles. . How did this car fixation begin when I was born into it? ? My father was founder the model a restorers club America back in nineteen fifty one year I was born cars were basically in our family from the beginning and then my dad restored cars for a living whether it was Duesenberg? ? Packard? ? As or buicks whatever they were my cousin built hot rods in a lean to next to my father's shop, , and then a mile up the road was candy pools sports car shop where they had about every type sports car in the World Men Candy Pool is very famous race car drivers. . So there was race cars, , Ferraris Maserati. . Oscars every type of car. . That was rare stuff back then and I think that's how I got my ashes for everything to do with automobiles was brought up on every type of automobile. . That's quite a broad swath. . You Talk About Your Dad restoring everything from model as to Duisenburg's there couldn't be a wider gulf between those two and it's interesting. . You mentioned that let's drill down into. That . for just a second Wayne I often wonder the model a was such a ubiquitous machine, , obviously the model t and then the model put Henry Ford on the map with a little company we call the Blue Oval but all the guys that actually treasure those cars and restore them and kept him alive for so many decades when they were well past. Their . prime. . It's very rare to see those cars any longer they sorta seems almost evaporated off the surface the earth they've become pretty popular again though in that era forcible way to get into the hobby and you could basically model for today from a catalog. . So because of the ease of getting a apart the east of the restoration and the fun factor. . With the driving aspect of it, I , mean, , these cars are a Lotta Fun to drive. . Easy on reasonably priced. . So we see model as actually their value and increasing summer bar. . That's a great harbinger of things to come then because they really were sort of the cornerstone of the collector hobby back before guys can afford their full classics and all the fancy stuff from Europe. . I starting going to Hershey with my dad and nine hundred, , fifty, seven , was six years old I think her she started either in fifty five, , hundred, , fifty, , six does either liver fear second year, , and then probably the third year I was there it became part. . Of Our family, , my dad created the model, a , restorers club. . He just come out of service in flight forty, , eight and gentleman brought him a model a Ford to do some paint work on any restored to perfection for the gentleman brought it to local car show nine, , hundred fifty and they wouldn't let him show it because they said that's just some old used car as nothing special and he got upset about that and went home and created the model, , every stores America which thousands of people all over the world still supporting that club.
Wayne Carini from 'Chasing Classic Cars' and F40 Motorsports
"This is Robert Ross with another episode of cars that matter and today my guest is Wayne Carini who everybody knows Wayne Wayne's the host of chasing classic cars and incredibly Popular Program about finding gyms in the rough Wayne's also owner of f Forty Motor Sports Portland Connecticut I'm going to call that as day job and what a job it is Wayne Welcome to the program during us to be with. Obviously we're talking coast to coast I'm here in Los Angeles, and you're on the eastern side of the US and were doing this by way of Zoom. So it's not in the studio, but it allows some long distance conversation really in much the same way that you probably deal with. So many of the collectors nowadays things have certainly changed for all of us in the way that we communicate and weighed. The options are being held virtual car shows everything's changed slightly only. It's just for short periods. We'll talk about some of those things both the short-term effects maybe some of the long term positive benefits that come from this, it's hard to imagine there are any, but they're actually might be but instead of going forward in time, let's go back in time for a second. Let me just ask you the obvious. Question a lifetime love affair with cars, full classics, postwar sports, and racing cars, and probably even some modern collectibles. How did this car fixation begin when I was born into it? My father was founder the model a restorers club America back in nineteen fifty one year I was born cars were basically in our family from the beginning and then my dad restored cars for a living whether it was Duesenberg? Packard? As or buicks whatever they were my cousin built hot rods in a lean to next to my father's shop, and then a mile up the road was candy pools sports car shop where they had about every type sports car in the World Men Candy Pool is very famous race car drivers. So there was race cars, Ferraris Maserati. Oscars every type of car. That was rare stuff back then and I think that's how I got my ashes for everything to do with automobiles was brought up on every type of automobile. That's quite a broad swath. You Talk About Your Dad restoring everything from model as to Duisenburg's there couldn't be a wider gulf between those two and it's interesting. You mentioned that let's drill down into. That for just a second Wayne I often wonder the model a was such a ubiquitous machine, obviously the model t and then the model put Henry Ford on the map with a little company we call the Blue Oval but all the guys that actually treasure those cars and restore them and kept him alive for so many decades when they were well past. Their prime. It's very rare to see those cars any longer they sorta seems almost evaporated off the surface the earth they've become pretty popular again though in that era forcible way to get into the hobby and you could basically model for today from a catalog. So because of the ease of getting a apart the east of the restoration and the fun factor. With the driving aspect of it, I mean, these cars are a Lotta Fun to drive. Easy on reasonably priced. So we see model as actually their value and increasing summer bar. That's a great harbinger of things to come then because they really were sort of the cornerstone of the collector hobby back before guys can afford their full classics and all the fancy stuff from Europe. I starting going to Hershey with my dad and nine hundred, fifty, seven was six years old I think her she started either in fifty five, hundred, fifty, six does either liver fear second year, and then probably the third year I was there it became part. Of Our family, my dad created the model, a restorers club. He just come out of service in flight forty, eight and gentleman brought him a model a Ford to do some paint work on any restored to perfection for the gentleman brought it to local car show nine, hundred fifty and they wouldn't let him show it because they said that's just some old used car as nothing special and he got upset about that and went home and created the model, every stores America which thousands of people all over the world still supporting that club.
"blue oval" Discussed on Daily Detroit
"We run down some of the top headlines including when the construction industry will be allowed back to work plus. There's some interesting Ford and Lincoln Related News. Van will help us understand it all so let's get started. The State of Michigan says there were one thousand one hundred thirty seven new cases of Corona virus and one hundred three deaths in Michigan. This brings the total confirmed cases to nearly forty thousand four hundred and three thousand six hundred seventy deaths. They also have an update on the economy reopening here in Michigan. The construction industry is expected to resume operations on May seventh. That accounts for nearly four percent of the state's gross domestic product according to the Associated General Contractors of America and Industry Group Governor Gretchen. Whitmer has unveiled a proposal to give essential workers as defined by her stay at home order a path to free college education. The so called futures for frontliners program is basically a Gi bill for essential workers. The Governor says it's the first of its kind in the country it would provide a tuition free path to college or a technical certificate for essential workers. Who Don't have a college degree. Whitmer has a goal to increase the number of working age adults with a technical certificate or college degree from forty five percent to sixty percent in the next decade the program announcement light on details and it still requires work with a legislature to get it funded. Some of the categories of essential workers included our hospital and nursing home. Staff Grocery store workers people who manufacture personal protective equipment public safety trash pickup and childcare workers speaking of childcare the governor also announced in new childcare affordability program during the pandemic one hundred thirty million dollar childcare. Relief Fund will make direct grants starting at fifteen hundred dollars to childcare providers. It'll help keep providers who are serving essential workers open and it has the aim of making childcare more affordable as the economy starts to reopen. This is being funded by one hundred million dollars from the Federal Cares Act and thirty million dollars from the state's childcare fund a quick update on. What's happening here? In the city of Detroit there have been more than one thousand deaths in the city from Cova nineteen as of Wednesday an increase of twenty one from Tuesday mayor. Mike Duggan says the vast majority are seniors and a number of those reported are catch ups from previous day's officials also spent a good amount of time on Wednesday talking about the census including an appearance by rapper. Ice where Vizo. Who's being an ambassador for the city? The census has huge importance as many things are determined by it including representation in Congress and federal funding for local and state governments people of Color and illegal immigrants historically have been very hesitant to fill out their census forms for a variety of reasons including severe mistrust of the government right. Now it's estimated that only forty two percent of city residents have filled out the census. Jerry I have a question yes. Are you familiar with ice? Whereas until today I was not me neither. I'm not to look. Meanwhile the corona virus continues to spread beyond the core here in southeast Michigan in West and Central Michigan. Twenty eight residents of Ingham County and nine in Arizona. County have been infected by a Kobe. Nineteen outbreak that's been traced to a massive Industrial Poultry Farm the Lansing State Journal reports that her Brooks Poultry Ranch first reported that an employee had tested positive for the corona virus. Two weeks ago. Her Brooks is the largest egg producer in the state and it employs hundreds of workers including many immigrants. It's massive hangar. Barnes are visible from Interstate Ninety six between lansing and grand rapids. The farm says it's now doing widespread testing of workers has put into place strict protocols and has shut down a portion of the ranch to prevent spreading the virus. It's interesting how this Food system is being impacted by the Corona Virus Fan. It's something that we've been watching No doubt about it And especially there's news out today that President trump is involved invoking the defense production act which she used for GM famously to force them to start producing ventilators. But now I'm trying to get meat. Production plants back to work You know because a lot of these in rural areas have become real hot spots for corona virus infection. Do we now get to call him the commander in chief? I wonder He's said to be a famous. You know steak eater. He likes steak. Well done with catch up so Yeah I think so. Eight need beep on the old fashioned family meal ready in about ten minutes. Mom It was for dinner. There is big news out of four. This week the Blue Oval reported that it lost two billion dollars in the first quarter. Man That is a big number. What is going on. Yeah big number for sure. Well for blamed its losses on corona virus. It'd actually telegraphed earlier. I think last week that that this huge number was coming so it's not necessarily a big surprise but Again Ford blames it all on the Corona virus shut down. Its plants have all been closed since March. But that really was only the last week of of the first quarter. Essentially Ford is already cut. Its dividends in its deferred salaries for some of the top executives. And it's borrowed fifteen billion dollars from a line of credit one analyst. This week famously suggested that it might be time for forward to stay to begin seeking a merger partner. I checked before we recorded this Ford stock as we're recording. This is currently trading in the five dollar range. Wall Street has been hammering the company for a long time about this and this is only going to increase pressure on CEO. Jim Hackett to You know speed up. His vaunted turnaround a big time and certainly the corona virus. Shutdown is You know you can't fault any company for it but It's not helping matters. They seem not to be clear on when they're going to be getting back to work. It seems like now kind of mid May is the time or before they talked about may fourth and then on top of that that that idea of a merger partner sign that kind of intense to me so then oh for sure In the auto industry I mean you hearing about this. A lot right Former Fiat Chrysler CEO. Sergio mark. Yoni famously you know rang this bell Constantly you know he famously tried to force a merger with General Motors. But that didn't work. I mean auto in legacy auto companies like Ford. Are you know they have a lot of pride right? I mean they still bill for Juniors still the executive chairman you know. He's he's a family cy on and they're still members of his family working for the company. You know there. I don't think any of them are going to take easily to the idea of partnering up with somebody but you know we'll see it's just one idea out there we'll see whether they need to do at Ford. Ford has said that they've got enough cash to get through the end of the year. But we'll see what happens. I mean we. There's there's a long road to go here. One of the topics that interest me a lot is electric vehicles and this next piece of news is interesting because Lincoln is now saying that it has cancelled plans for an electric vehicle to be developed with Riviere. That's the startup we featured on this very podcast and for Detroit public television. We went out to their facilities. You talked to their CEO. This seems like a big deal. What's happening? Yeah this one would kinda came. As a surprise I think to a Lotta people and left scratching their heads Backstory here real quick Ford last year announced it was going to invest five hundred million dollars in Ribian and earlier this year. Lincoln confirmed that it would be building an electric vehicle using ravines technology and their electric vehicle platform Lincoln now says it's canceled those plans and will instead move forward developing its own electric vehicle And actually just today. The news came out that they have applied for patent protection on a name eagle-eyed which is believed to be that's fan. It's believed that's a name believed to be an electric vehicle name most most Auto names nowadays that have an e in them. You know. Sorta signify electric vehicles further apart. Both Lincoln and Ford and Rivi on the other side. Say The partnership remains intact remains strong and they will work together in the future Lincoln followed up by saying that it will continue to work with a ribbon on a quote unquote alternative vehicle. Whatever that means. We'll they're going to work on stuff in the future. What's the reason behind this? Well I mean you have to go back to the finances that we talked about In the beginning of this segment right I mean two billion dollar loss in the first quarter and then coincidentally Ford is warning that its second-quarter is going to be worse. They're actually forecasting that they're going to post a five billion dollar. Loss in the second quarter. I mean that's a huge staggering number. Right so I mean Ford offered as you know reasoning for this cancellation The quote unquote current environment. You know referring to plant shutdowns And the corona virus in cash. Obviously he's playing a huge role in that Decision frankly it's just probably not the best time for them to be investing in high priced premium luxury electric vehicle from from Lincoln. Right which is what we'd be talking about here Sales are you know slowed here in the United States? Certainly I mean. I don't think anybody thinks that they're going to rebound You know in a hurry once once production picks back up and you know stay at home or orders are lifted Even before the corona virus hit sales were slowing dramatically in China which is a hugely important market. For Lincoln it's been a big growth market for them And I would also note that Tech Crunch reported also that Ford has pushed back the launch of its autonomous vehicle Service with its partner Argo. Ai Two twenty twenty two. That's a year long delay. So I think you're seeing this. A lot of auto companies are trying to delay research. Projects Product Launches New Investments. Just trying to conserve.
"blue oval" Discussed on Motor1.com Podcast
"So can't you see this as more of an entry vehicle into the Mustang lifestyle that may get others to buy Mustang of the second car because they like the Machi so much John John Absolutely. You're absolutely right. But there's one big problem it's not entry into the Mustang lifestyle it's not a Mustang Mustang. So you don't you don't. It's not this this could be. This could be the Ford Machi has is and people say well. Hey if this is what I'm saying if this is a little bit more environmentally conscious I could step into this I get step in and enjoy this and hey this is kind of fun performance Mustang inspired now. I'd like to see what you you know. What a Mustang is like right? You don't you don't picture anyone driving Amaki like welcome at a Mustang meet. I love you be honest be honest not really not really and and I mean in now this has only been out a week right. I mean we're making a lot of judgments agents here just by the seat of our pants but we haven't driven the car yet. It looks like it would be pretty fun to drive. It's just the the point that I have to keep coming back to buy fundamental design. It's not a Mustang. See I and I get your argument that there's like one true form of a Mustang and and you can't put that in namen anything else I think as an argument that a lot of enthusiasts are making but I also think that it's not just that the form of the machi is not two plus two coupe. Crossover it's that. I think it would be easier to swallow if it were a sedan or something else I area. I think the word crossover over has a stereotype to it carries connotations of like what parents drive to avoid minivans. But they're also kind of poser vehicles because they're not real suv's vs and I think Ford made a little mistake here. Even mentioning the word crossover. Because let's look at the crossover segment. The the interesting thing about the crossover segment is that it doesn't have very defined edges of what gets included. It's not like a truck where it's obviously a truck and it's obvious. Here's what's a sedan with crossover. There are so many different kinds and types that can go anywhere from things that look just like normal five-door hatchbacks ax to things that do look like rough and tumble. Suv's what I think. The machi is is something more akin to an Audi q eight or for Mercedes Jelly Jelly coop or BMW X.. Four worth kind of like a four door coupe. Crossover where it's got a really kind of fastback roof line. It's tall but I wouldn't even though it's tall. I wouldn't say it's raised is not like an SUV with a huge ground clearance. It's more just tall to afford a higher and more comfortable seating position than it is tall to get over a tree trunk or or a rock in the middle of the road right. I mean I mean that's obvious I mean it's it's a crossover crossovers by definition don't necessarily fit in one category or another hence crossover and you're right Ford would have. This would have been easier to swallow. I think if it had been sedan I don't think it would have been much easier to swallow because it's still upsetting that that basic formula and and you know a point that I'll that I'll bring up here because I've been trying to Suss this out as well you know. What is true intention here here? I mean we know. Obviously they're trying to brand this as a Mustang because they want to sell people on that Mustang lifestyle. And I know you've said. Hey that's that's a pretty good good complement to Mustang. That Ford is coming out with this awesome electric crossover with with statistics and performance. It's it's really top of the range. I don't see that way though. I see this has Ford. Frankly being scared they're not sure how this this is GonNa go. They're not sure how this is going to sell. They aren't prepared to try to sell this new electric performance crossover on his own merits. So they're going to try to tie Mustang hang into it selling not the vehicle but the lifestyle and now people there's in theory people are GonNa come into this with preconceived notions that okay. This thing is hey this thing is going to be like Mustang. The Mustang people aren't going to come into that because they know it's not a Mustang but the really the buyers at Ford is is targeting with this not Mustang people but people that want that Mustang lifestyle and might be interested. They're going to go into this with preconceived notions. Okay here's what this is going to be like. Maybe it impresses them maybe dozens. But either way Mustang does not help this vehicle sickle cell calling this a Mustang does not help this vehicle cell. I disagree completely. Let me let me make two arguments. Why for one? I think you characterize what I've said about. Why did it sort of right? But he didn't kind of flesh out the details. I think what Ford has done with. The machi is unlike other automakers who I think their egos would not let them admit that Tesla was doing a better job than them making an electric vehicle so so they did their own way. Like Audi Mercedes and Jaguar I think Ford Ego aside and said recognized is the Tesla is seventy percent of the market in the US and that they are doing something right. So Ford got busy analyzing what what Tesla did and I think one thing. They noticed that people aren't necessarily or just buying Tesla's because they're technically superior vs they. They are getting excited about TUSLA's and passionate about Tesla it's like people used to get about the iphone like there. There was an emotional connection being made. That was far beyond just the technical capability of of the vehicle and it was being driven on this wave of excitement over the vehicles and I think in one sense a you characterize it as Ford was scared. They couldn't sell it without attaching the Mustang to it to give it something more. I don't think that Ford was scared. I think Forbes saw that it wasn't enough to just make a good on paper that it had to have an it had to be able make an emotional connection with people and get people excited and the only intellectual property they have in their portfolio. That can do that or maybe not. The only one that I could do at best is Mustang. If they make it a Mustang people are going to have an emotional reaction to it. My second point is they were fully aware that reaction action could be both negative and positive and they don't care because another thing they learned from Tesla is that it doesn't matter if people are are calling you stupid or calling you great. They're talking about you and that's way better than not talking about you. which is exactly what happened to every other? Ev That's launched in the Tesla era They've been completely forgotten about okay. First of all ask Volkswagen. How many diesel vehicles they sold because people were talking about diesel gate? There is such a thing in has negative talk. You don't want that. I understand the whole idea of. Hey any talk is good talk no not necessarily right let I that is not necessarily that is not a fair comparison because and I want to bring up this point to you and this is this is actually my closing point. which is that you brought up Volkswagen? Volkswagen they they broke the law. Like okay yes. If talk about breaking the law that is bad no matter what but the bad talk about the Mustang there. Nothing bad happens because it's called the Mustang. Nothing no one. No one gets their livelihood taken away. Nothing bad happens except and and I think Ford has faith at over time that this is going to be good for Mustang and good for the actual sports car Mustang and not bad so I think ultimately whether people are talking about hating the name or loving it. They're talking about the vehicle and that gives Ford Way more penetration into the mindshare mindshare of potential shoppers. Then it would have otherwise. We're still talking about it and we probably will be for weeks if not months on end but if Ford had just knocked it out of the park with a vehicle that you can't not talk about you don't need to put Mustang on it but that's why you can't you can't do that. Tesla share you can no you yeah you just use hunker down and you do the math and you come out with a good vehicle and honestly I think this mock e is that vehicle I I don't think Ford needed to put the Mustang to try to engage people's passion. I think the only thing because I think the only thing they're doing and I've seen this before at Ford with with various models and various rollouts where it's like we're GonNa try to build vehicle. We could possibly build it better but instead of really trying to go that extra distance. We're going to try to wrap it up in some interesting brandy and we're GONNA try to give you know pull here. Yeah Yeah I think I think it is I really do you. Can't you know automaker can blow tasks out of the water in terms of specs respects. It's not like Ford has the technology and it's back pocket to make a four hundred mile range. They just can't do it they they. What they've managed to do was making vehicle that has come? The closest tesla any other vehicle has and has has matched Tesla on many fronts but it it surpasses Tesla uh-huh few if any and actually falls behind on a few others. The only I would say that. Come out that has exceeded Tesla on a few fronts. Is the Porsche take in. And that's only on a few fronts charging speed and handling you could argue that every automaker exceeds Tesla on maybe like finish or or quality the of craftsmanship. That's one thing but but the thing is I think four new like look we we have made probably the best. Ev to challenge Tesla Tesla. But we haven't blown out of the water and we also know that Tesla has this extra special ingredient of the passion and and loyalty realty that it stirs in people. And we'd somehow add that as well and I just think they they didn't want to trust it to just the Blue Oval Badge on the front or or any other brand that they had in the portfolio. They thought that they could make an emotional reaction by using Mustang. And and I I think it's GonNa blow over eventually especially when the car start getting people's hands and people started driving them two years from now a year from now But eventually you're gonNA find a die hard Ford person who's complaining now who ends up buying a mock easy to use as their daily driver with a bunch which of other regular mustangs in the garage for the weekend. And that's GonNa that's GonNa be shown to be like the the the most awesome setup and and I think it will actually start start being bought by those fifty older Mustang people. I I'm just I'm not seen it happen. I'm not seeing it happen. And you know it's it's interesting that you pointed out that Ford used its most storied nameplate. It's most storied moniker that it has in its inventory to make vehicle that kinda competes with Tesla. Aw that that that kind of that sells it right. There for couldn't make something that they felt was a full-on knock it out of the park. Hey the thing is awesome and it's going to dominate segment. They knew okay. We're GONNA try to wrap this up and sell a lifestyle because we're not quite there yet. It.
Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot on course to create world's No.4 carmaker
"One that I'm confirming earlier reports rival carmakers fiat Chrysler and France's PSA group maker of Peugeot plan to merge pulling resources to confront an expensive new era for the industry including trade tariffs tighter emissions roles in the move toward electrics combination would create the fourth largest auto maker in the world movie get ahead of GM of the market value of about fifty billion dollars the deal struck between GM and the United auto workers union ending a forty day strike means the road was clearer for GM's rival Ford the blue oval in the U. A. W. have signed a tentative labor contract based on much of what was in the agreement with
"blue oval" Discussed on KOMO
"Theme in the blue oval room. Mr. Trump did not speak with media covering the event. He was active on Twitter a bit at one point complaining about fake news. And now comes word the White House's restoring CNN correspondent Jim Acosta's media credential for good that led to CNN dropping its legal action on Friday. The president seemed to want to put the matter behind him. However by Sunday, the one house was threatening to revoke the past when our federal judges order regarding fifth amendment due process. Not the first amendment expired November thirtieth the White House statement indicates CNN's Jim Acosta's pass will be restored for good. But then lays down new ground rules for news conferences, one question per correspondent, however leaving follow ups to the discretion of the president a journalist would have to yield the floor as the policy suggests including the microphone failure could result in suspension of the press credential. However, many of the president's give and take moments with media are impromptu with reporters having to get noticed. He's only had two formal solo news conferences. Bob Costantini, Washington at twenty till from issues at the White House over to Capitol Hill. Now as we switch gears with jimbohannon is there really a question of whether Nancy Pelosi will be elected speaker of the house about that with Frank Buckley is foundation, professor at George Mason, University Scalia school of law and author of such books as the Republican Workers Party and a man who can look at the contemporary scene. Now, we have of course, the Democrats with a fourteen vote margin in the house and more than fourteen Democrats now say that they will oppose Nancy Pelosi, President Trump steps in and says, that's okay, she's worked hard. She deserves. It is she starts to fall short Republicans will give her the votes. I think that's a brilliant move Frank because there's gonna be a democratic speaker. Anyway, might as well be someone with Nancy Pelosi's baggage. Republican. And you're absolutely right. It'd be wonderful Republicans contributed some boats. And that way, she might feel obligated to cut deals with them, by the way. I mean when eighteen people say, we're not going to vote, you know, they might blink. I I have to wonder about that myself. I can easily see let's say Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, Republican and Nancy Pelosi as house speaker democrat and someplace said they'd get on an elevator together, which probably wouldn't happen too often. But if it did they could look at each other after a long hard day of legislating, take a deep sigh and say, those wacky extremists kids, we have in some respects there is almost a natural coalition of the establishment between the two is absolutely right. Jeopardy and. No experience and people have been around the block few times, maybe that makes for collegiality possibly or at the very least it could make for or for a few deals assuming that she was elected speaker with or without Republican help your your thoughts about whether or not the the they might be able to work out deals on. Let's say ObamaCare says it can't be repealed and replaced anymore. At least not till twenty twenty Republicans hope that they may be able to then. But in the meantime, people have to live with it needs to be fixed and Mitch McConnell said that the other day, maybe a deal they're brats including prescription drug prices may be a deal the president's wall in exchange for for dreamer. Amnesty. Are there are there grounds for deals here? Totally and you just mentioned to the big ones. I mean, it really hurt the Republicans. They had they were targeted as people who didn't believe in taking care of pre existing conditions and their position was so murky. That there was some truth to that. There will be a lot of pressure on Republicans to deal with that particular nation, and it's what Americans want and similarly on on immigration. Well, we're not going to get everything we want we conservatives, but you know, there there's Browns for a deal not too many people going to get to work about the dreamers. Okay. Apart from the crazies. The edges so a deal for the dreamers and funding for the wall. Maybe maybe some crazy stuff in the sixty five immigration actor, you know, things things like the lottery, for example, fifty thousand people in a lottery. That's just crazy. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff that should be happening. I'd love to see it happen. Most Americans would love to see it happen. And you know, if that works if they do cut deals, that's a sure path to reelection for Trump and twenty twenty right? You get along with people. Leo, welcome change from bluster. It would certainly be a change of pace inside the beltway Frank Buckley of George Mason University, the author of the Republican Workers Party published by encounter, we're talking with Dr Lonnie Chen who is the Steffi research fellow at the Hoover Institution and director of domestic policy. Studies at Stanford University to take a look at the prospects for any bipartisanship, I would have thought maybe something along the lines of fixing ObamaCare now that it can't be repealed and replaced and possibly maybe even the wall for dreamer. Amnesty on immigration your thoughts about any potential areas of bipartisanship. Well, I think first of all bipartisanship is probably.
"blue oval" Discussed on NewsRadio 1080 KRLD
"White House Christmas tree the one that will be set up with a theme in the blue oval room. Mr. Trump did not speak with media covering the event. He was active on Twitter a bit at one point complaining about fake news. And now comes word the White House's restoring CNN correspondent Jim Acosta's media credential for good that led to CNN dropping its legal action on Friday. The president seemed to want to put the matter behind him. However by Sunday, the White House was threatening to revoke the pass when our federal judge's order regarding fifth amendment due process. Not the first amendment expired November thirtieth the White House statement indicates CNN's Jim Acosta's pass will be restored for good. But then lays down new ground rules for news conferences, one question per correspondent, however leaving follow ups to the discretion of the president a journalist would have to yield the floor as the policy suggests including the microphone failure could result in suspension of the press credential. However, many of the president's give and take moments was media are impromptu with reporters having to get noticed. He's only had two formal solo news conferences at the White House. Bob Costantini, Washington at twenty till from issues at the White House over to Capitol Hill. Now as we switch gears with jimbohannon is there really a question of whether Nancy Pelosi will be elected speaker of the house. Let's talk a bit about that with Frank Buckley is foundation, professor at George Mason, University Scalia school of law and author of such books as the Republican Workers Party and a man who can look at the contemporary scene. Now, we have of course, the Democrats will they fourteen vote margin in the house and more than fourteen Democrats now say that they will oppose Nancy Pelosi, President Trump steps in and says, that's okay, she's worked hard. She deserves. It is she starts to fall short Republicans will give her the votes. I think that's a brilliant move Frank because there's got to be a democrat. Speaker anyway about as will be someone with Nancy Pelosi's baggage hotel, you won't be a Republican. And you're absolutely right. It'd be wonderful. If Republicans contributed some boats. And that way, she might feel obligated to cut deals with them, by the way. I mean when eighteen people say, we're not gonna vote for you know, they might blink. I I have to wonder about that myself. I can easily see let's say Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, Republican and Nancy Pelosi as house speaker, a democrat and someplace said they'd get on an elevator together, which probably wouldn't happen too often. But if it did they could look at each other after a long hard day of legislating, take a deep sigh and say, those wacky extremists kids, we have in some respects. There is almost a natural coalition of the establishment between the two is there. Absolutely, right. You know, something that I mean, there's something here to be said for charity and the experience and people have been around the block confu times, and maybe that makes for collegiality possibly or at the very least it could make or for a few deals assuming that she was elected speaker. With or without Republican help your your thoughts about whether or not they they might be able to work out deals o- on let's say ObamaCare says it can't be repealed and replaced anymore at least twenty twenty Republicans hope that they may be able to then. But in the meantime, people have to live with it needs to be fixed and Mitch McConnell said that the other day, maybe a deal they're brats including prescription drug prices may be a deal the president's wall in exchange for for dreamer. Amnesty. Are there are there grounds for deals here? Totally and you just mentioned through the big ones. I mean, it really hurt the Republicans. They had they were targeted as people who didn't believe in taking care of pre existing conditions and their position was so murky that there was that there will be a lot of pressure on Republicans to deal with that particular nation, and it's what Americans want and similarly on on immigration. Well, you know, we're not going to get everything. We want we conservatives. But you know, there's rounds for a deal not too many people going to get to work about the dreamers. Okay. Apart from the crazies at the edges so a deal for the green and funding for the wall. Maybe maybe some crazy stuff in the sixty five immigration actor, you know, things things like the lottery, for example, a fifty thousand people in a lottery get to come here. That's just crazy. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff that should be happening. I'd love to see it happen. Most Americans would love to see it happen. And you know, if that works if they do cut deals, that's a sure path to re election for Trump and twenty twenty right? You get along with people via welcome change from the bluster. It would certainly be a change of pace inside the beltway Frank Buckley of George Mason University, the author of the Republican Workers Party published by encounter, we're talking with Dr Lonnie Chen who is the Steffi research fellow at the Hoover Institution and director of domestic policy. Studies at Stanford University to take a look at the prospects for any bipartisanship, I would have thought maybe something along the lines of fixing ObamaCare now that it can't be repealed and replaced and possibly maybe even the wall for dreamer. Amnesty on immigration your thoughts about any potential areas of bipartisanship. Well, I think first of all bipartisanship is probably less likely outcome. But to the extent that they do work together. I I agree. I think ObamaCare needs to be stabilized at some point in two thousand nine hundred. I think those premiums for next year for twenty twenty that is going to escalate significantly unless they're able to get some kind of stabilization package in place. So I do see that being one area potentially. They'll go to. And then the second I twentieth infrastructure. I think that the need to repair our roads and our bridges and our ports. That's something that both sides have probably decided is a good idea. The question is just getting around to executing on it immigration. I would hope they'd be able to reach consensus, but it's been such a heart issue. We haven't been able to deal with it for over a decade in part because so politically fraught, so I'd go to infrastructure and ObamaCare, I is busting the deficit wide open and adding to the debt still a subject of bipartisan consensus broad agreement of spending more borrowing more good idea we saw that with the tax. Bill. We saw it with the stimulus Bill before that during the Obama administration. We saw it with ObamaCare. It's much easier for politicians to spend now and worry about the Bill later, and I fully expect that is exactly the kind of public policy making we're going to see for years to come. If Democrats go as far as some thought they would. And I'll grant you that some of the people coming in as likely new committee chairs of backed off a bit on things like impeachment. But if they go down that road and investigating the Trump family and tax returns them to like get in the president states. We all know how the president reacts to look at it states. We could easily have two years of of complete gridlock. Could we not not only gridlock? But I think nastiness in our dialogue in our rhetoric far worse than what we've seen already. I think the president thrives off of conflict. That's when he does best. When there is this dynamic of him versus another side, that's pressing him. And so Democrats would be smart. I think take a step back and back off a little bit and figure out ways essentially to to to create. Opportunities for contrast. Yes. But in terms of direct confrontation, I have a tough time seeing how that ends well for Democrats. And in fact, I think that's exactly what President Trump wants Lottie Chen of the Hoover Institution and Stanford University before that Frank Buckley from George Mason, University Scalia law school, the author of the Republican Workers Party published by counter fourteen till when America in the morning returns..
"blue oval" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"Go home. Newsradio nine fifty. W w j news time is six eleven dozens of iphone stolen out of a car in Troy police say it happened at the Somerset collection north parking lot. The victim says he and his family were purchasing apple iphones to resell and put them in the car. He moved it from the parking structure to the lot near Macy's. When he returned. He noticed his window had been broken out someone stole fifty five brand new iphones totalling about sixty grand. Anyone with information is asked to call police consumers energy planning to replace over one hundred sedans electric vehicles over the next five years. It's also working with General Motors to promote smart charging spokeswoman. Katie. Carey says, it's a more sustainable solution for all parties have a very large fleet when it comes to vehicles, and the first step that we can take his transferring our citizens over we hope that down the road, we can have, you know, even electric vehicles when it comes to our heavy duty bucket trucks. But right now, we're gonna take this first step and move forward. And. Not only talk the talk when it comes to reducing carbon emissions, but also walk the walk. Carey says the move will support their companies clean energy plan already cut carbon emissions from the power plants over the next two decades big perk for people living near the Michigan central station in cork town last night's neighborhood advisory council Ford, which just bought the space for ninety million dollars announced its new neighbours will receive the friends and family discount when buying a blue oval product most important part.
"blue oval" Discussed on BizTalk Radio
"Fifty one. Forty one Bill Clinton is now a million selling novelist USA's Chris Barnes has. More the president, is missing thriller covert and with, James Patterson has more than a million sales in North America alone the books co publishers Alfred Dawson Little Brown and company announcing those figures for the novel that was released on. June fourth topping bestseller list for weeks reviews were mixed but a Barnes and noble fiction buyer. Says in a statement that the president is missing has, benefited from very strong word of. Mouth the book subject has also proved timely a potentially devastating cyber attack which intelligence experts have Called a leading concern for. Real these days Clinton, whose previous folks include the. Memoir my life is now the rare author to have million sellers in those fiction and nonfiction for USA, radio news I'm Chris Barnes the ten million Ford Mustang has ruled out the automakers flat rock assembly. Plant in Michigan. USA's Timberg has more Jim Farley the. Executive vice president of Ford says this is a. Great time for the. Blue oval Mustang so special for the company ten. Million it's the best selling sports car in the world now. We started exporting just. A few years ago and we've exported from Michigan about a half a million units now so. It's a big day for four ten million we're, hearing the car will be used as a promotional vehicle at Ford dealerships across the country and then quite possibly could end up on. The auction block for USA radio news, I'm Timberg for USA radio, news I'm Wendy king If your credit card bills have gotten out of hand call Consolidated.
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"The ten million Ford Mustang rolled. Off the automakers. Flat rock assembly plant in Michigan. Today Jim Farley. The executive vice president of Ford. Says this is. A great. Time for the blue oval Mustang so special for the company ten million. It's the best selling sports car. In the world now we started exporting a few. Years ago and and we exported from Michigan about a half. A million units now. So it's a big day for four ten million we're hearing the car will be used as. A promotional vehicle at Ford dealerships across the country. And then quite possibly could end up on the auction
"blue oval" Discussed on PetaPixel Photography Podcast
"It along with all the other photos were for sale not that anyone actually had to purchase it to see it everyone could see it now who's buying that photo that would be very telling now she says that she was shocked horrified and embarrassed those are her words and she alleges that some of her fellow students including a group of football players use social media apps like snapchat to spread the photo around along with commentary and i'll whole lot of people saw it when the teens family alerted katy studios of the photo in question and how students were using it the studio manager emailed them back saying quote i am horrified that this even happened please know that i'm addressing this with our team immediately we have a process of three people to review photos prior to posting however we are investigating where the breakdown happened and quote now the photo which has been censored of course in the faces of those in it obscured has been posted online has been seen in news stories but with every bit of her dress covered by a blue oval on it it's hard to determine how this to slip past three people you know if the dress somehow matched the color of her skin then someone flipping through the photos quickly might miss it might one person not three though how's that even possible she's right there in the front left of the photo taken up i don't know about twenty five percent of the image and the photographer's flash has her a luminated the most she's what you're is drawn to so what i'm getting at here is it's pretty hard to miss something like that and yet they did now they haven't said just how much of her was exposed and without knowing that it's really hard to say just how obvious it should have been to spot the wardrobe malfunction something that they may or may not have been trained to look for who knows and if they had they might have had a better chance at finding it we just don't know the suit against katie studio seeks punitive damages for negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress pain and suffering and quote all right i could go along with all that except.
"blue oval" Discussed on Motorsports Monday
"Everything works out well good for the team mates under the blue oval banner but it's very unique in the fact that it's diff you saw the different strategies of guys either pitting early because tires really didn't matter or pitting late hoping you're a crash somewhere you always see those unique opportunities coming to pit road where there's a lot of incidents happen we saw one of the series we did not see one yesterday we all do exactly right but there was a lot of activity getting to pit road and so the the different strategies let those guys pitta early they're going to have an incident and then we're going to be an in clear sailing we just didn't see that take place yesterday yeah and a lot of the similar action going on in the finnity series as well let's talk a little bit now about some ontrack off tracks this is a point where we talk in the program about some things that one well in the sport maybe some things that aren't going quite so well the one that that jumps out for me and it's been going on for a couple of weeks now as the finnity series dash for cash program we've heard a lot of fans for a longtime say get the cup guys out of the finnity series there are economic reasons and other reasons why that's not necessarily feasible but these four dash for cash races back back to back to back with no cup guys in the field and then we'll see something similar again at the end of the season where they're not allowed to participate in the extended series playoffs if you're getting cup points that's that's been fun to watch it really has hasn't we've had that debate before but it's been fun to watch these guys duke it out amongst themselves without any doubt are you'll never hear me complain anything about an all expanding driver field it's we've talked about it before the business mile of having the cup.
"blue oval" Discussed on WGTK
"You troubleshoot the problem let's get what you need get in the zone with autozone what do you think joe i'm gonna go with david ragan he drove a great race and typically he's a good plate racer there was a lot of trouble again to he stayed out of it he was a survivor and he finished the six spot i like that let's give it to david ragan the in the zone driver of the week presented by auto zone and once again we'll ready to celebrate here we're gonna hear from joey logano coming up right now in fact how about right now let's go down to gatorade victory lane and the gano given a high five to his crew chief todd gordon and not kurt busch just said the twenty two advice here he comes his wife britney his son his here they are they're going to celebrate first time as a father here in in victory lane joey kurt busch just said that the twenty two out fox's what did you do those last couple of laps to keep them behind you how man just got lucky i got a great spotter junior left me a good one near with tj majors and allow me to make the right decisions he gives me the picture behind me and tells me where to go and the steering wheel making the right moves so me and just a great car very fast obviously the fords today dominated so proud to be in a blue oval with row sheets motors hood that's a huge deal big part of what our victory was today and teamwork was a big part of it as well and then at the end the year racing you know you don't know what's going to happen so we're just trying to get in the right lanes right time right moves it's it's always exciting to win at a superspeedway especially talladega because you never know you got it until you cross.
"blue oval" Discussed on 560 KLZ The Source
"Who can have less last legroom less seat room scored storage capacity in the back you know cargo room the whole bit everything's different now sale let's say this is the focus of bad car no they've done very well cellnet carton one complaint i've got with ford we talked about this earlier there are in decided offense even in that small segment they've not done much lately they just haven't folks i i've interviewed somebody from chevrolet for example on friday yesterday on my daily show and i'll be on a chevrolet has got to electric one full plug in vehicle one hybrid vehicle with the volt and then you start from the chevy cruz or the veil even and you go all the way up i mean chevrolet has got literally every every segment of the marketplace covered saying that four dozen but for just hasn't done much they did really really well during the recession they didn't borrow any money from anybody they had good things in place they hawked everything including the blue oval and they came out of bank or they came out of the you know the others had bankruptcy they didn't accuweather recession doing very very well had some great rnd in the mix at the time and did very well in frankly have just kind of kicked back and collected on that and really haven't put much into it since i don't know why can't answer that in if i could get somebody from four denver you know come on here and talk about it maybe they can explain to me why but they just haven't done much when you look at their lineup they just haven't done much in that particular end of things so anyways right one thing i told you i would do and i would do it in this hour was go through the fifteen car hacks every driver needs to know and what we will do is some of you asked us even beforehand you're not listening now i i get that but some ask before it hey i can't listen on saturday i saw you put this car hack thing up on facebook will you go through in documents some of the things so yes casio will take notes we're going to put that into facebook you can always go back and look at that and see we'll even make maybe even.
"blue oval" Discussed on WJOL Will County 1340
"With the public attitudes the team high school kids college kids anyone who ever few hours it's sparrow wants earn some dole remy no age is discriminated against longwood applying for the job they encourage customers to come by meet and talk with the management team and learn about the nascar car washing why they are different refreshments will be there giveaways and a raffle i'm saying it's your car wash you guys with me i'm good with it doesn't cost me anything they're gonna come in and say some guy on the radio said it so he'd get a year's car wash so there you go it's the nascar car wash mass car update alrighty boys well last week there's another face that made its way into gainer a victory lane who is it a navien give you a guess it wasn't a blue oval and been some one hundred trips before he made it back to he was happy fellow you listen to you it i was listening on the radio i did not and he was he was pretty happy at the end of the race he is one clint boyer the fourteen back in victory lane where does the word deserves to be he had a big old twenty four outside in his hand when i saw the interview pc where were you and i talking about this post show or on the on a show that's what that's what we need we don't need the scripted guys get now with nothing against coca cola but they're doing an interview with a coke in her hand never take a drink and set it down it's after and you know it's just all the scripted stuff and happens in happens in indycar and every every one of them but he got out and look for a nice colbert and through the gatorade around and did that he couldn't find one right away so we went up to the grand canyon or the spectators through went over the fence i'd like to see that more so like you say putting the right hat on.
"blue oval" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"To cash nine the news watch never stops ww j news time is nine twelve this is something that doesn't happen all the time up in mackinaw city it's beautiful it's blue ice and it's formed again this year w w j's beth fisher has more in this live and local report bath roberta the executive director of the mackinaw city chamber of commerce jamie murray says there are chunks and chunks of this blue eyes some twenty feet high along the shoreline quite a sight we've had a great great last few weekends have been fabulous for tourism here thanks for the blue ice i guess business owners are loving at the ice is more blue because air bubbles are tightly squeezed out limiting the scattering and reflecting of natural light just some really clean clear water you know formed in the streets dice formed in the streets and when the wind came from the right direction it broke apart and blew it up on our shore moore says they're getting lots of calls from all over about it as people go to check it out reporting live beth fisher ww j newsradio nine fifty a bit of excitement and cortel not to reports that the blue oval might go up at the michigan central train depot ford is said to be in talks to buy the building and move some of their operations there a no show reaction to the potential change at the train depot pretty positive have been riding the city for probably twelve years now probably five of those fall of everybody's talking about a cities coming back all these last two or three years i have seen unbelievable amount of growth in it's fantastic that's just one more thing for it has a stronger presence in court down three months ago the announcer booth you more than two hundred employees into a new location.
"blue oval" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"There's three out get the support their family their friends there's there's different for his asians out there where there's all kinds of support and help a lot of these kids are shamed because they feel like if it has to ask for help they're weak but in fact what they have done through they need us they've lost friends you know they've witnessed things perhaps you and i will never witness in a lifetime us military withdrew from iraq in twenty eleven but the isis threat and rising violence compelled the us military to return to the country in two thousand fourteen lot of excitement and cork town after reports that the blue oval micro up at the old michigan central train depot ford said to be in talks about buying moving some of its operations there detroiters are saying hallelujah been riding the city for probably twelve years now probably five of those fall everybody's talking about all the city's coming back all these last two or three years i have seen unbelievable montenegro thin it's fantastic that's just one more thing one more thing stay tuned and we've got sports next with tony w w j news time six fourteen of all the people in the world you feel like you're destined to her and now that you have come to jared the galleria of jewelry defined the diamond destined for her it's called chosen by jared diamond with a one of a kind story only jared can tell from the raw stone to the ring she'll wear forever jared makes her diamonds creation part of your love story we document its entire journey from procuring it in its roughest purest form to the finished.
"blue oval" Discussed on WHO NewsRadio 1040 AM
"For the fut are not interested in in whether it's jumping or throwing or or sprinting alongside those athletes because they know that a loss in the first meet of the year because the drake relays in the international track and field schedule is really the first meet of the season for most of the athletes particularly the year after the olympics so it's it's been a lot for me to learn and it's been exciting to be able to do that and and despite those challenges bring some of the best athletes in the world and last year we saw you know more than seventy olympia and thirty olympic medalists all competed the blue oval and we're we're expecting fields even better than that again this year so what are you gonna do about the weather well with your plan so my my plan sundance you know i i was i was informed that i a year ago at this time that there was a long streak so the history of the drake relays that first year realized directors had sunshine ooh it's in the sixties and seventies and so my last year our last year was my first year and we had temps not much warmer than today and rain and pretty pretty miserable conditions so i'm hoping that that the bad luck that we had last year in my first year will will will the rewarded with seventies and sanni this year.
"blue oval" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Foreign assistance from arizona auburn usc and oklahoma state espn's jeff goodman with all of these details to try to digest what do you feel like is the most important among them well having ten people being arrested by the fbi this morning you can start with that and i think the uncertainty of where this goes scott that's the most important because those ten could role could plea and it could be chained up fifty in the span of a day or two because each one of these ten is going to try to avoid jail time which is what they're looking at right now so ultimately the un's sir the of where this goes with the sport i think that's the biggest thing right now yeah i mean look there's a big difference that one letter difference between fbi at incidentally three letters versus poor man you could light of the nc aa you can stole all the aa no one's going to school rally the fbi and that's what we're talking about here louisville and you you had this tweet earlier in the afternoon they've acknowledged that while they are not named specifically there's all these schools is the universe and tan in player this other thing if this does connect a little given the fact that there are on probation right now jeff how can patino not be doomed it's tough through imagine i mean we're we're gonna speculate here because we don't know all the facts what we no isn't an assistant coach from blue oval was involved right now and the fbi has got it taped with him being evolve in a situation where the deed this with the financial guys so certainly it doesn't look good now rick pitino can say he didn't know which is what he did last time with the stripper scandal and andrei mcgee but how many times can you do that and get away with it at a university like louisville how many times is tom jurij going to stand by rick pitino how many times is tom shirts go to survive himself so i think you're already this is three strikes for it bettino and again we don't know where this is going to go how much deeper they haven't talked patino yet to my knowledge will they does this become a legal matter does this has become an inch who got away matter does rip patino to say you know what i'm done at this.