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"blake harris" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"God love him. He's back. And true, I you're tenacious, if nothing else when you have a problem. And I've known you for many years now virtually through the phone and threw my show in New York and all that You've been listening since my days at WNBC in New York, and here's the deal. I don't know what we could do to help you. I'm telling you the honest to God's truth you had, um you were going to get an attorney on to answer your question. I'd like to get any one of our attorneys. Any one of them. We can get on Daphne for a legal question. Let's try Even let's try even, um Who? Blake Blake Harris, Brad O'Brien from O'Brien. Legal Services. Marco Better Make sure they okay, I'll start to make sure they could go into federal court. No, no, no, no, They're not gonna file I'm going to ask their opinion. They're legal opinions on stuff. It's just a general legal question. It's not necessarily in their area of expertise. I just want to get ah, variety of opinions for Drew. I don't think Drew understands tow walk into federal court is going to be $10,000 just to get the paperwork what he is talking about. Even if he did win. What the hell do you think you'd win? Drew a free car. What do you think you get out of there are what are your damages Drew? What are your damages? The damages are I have a car. I can't even go to play hero. Find a new crew. That's not a damage. True. What damage? What damage made me drive back and forth three times with the car on its last leg. But the damn what is our I have been able to get food. I'm federal disability. I can't get my groom. I can't see my God. Through what damage have you suffered by not seeing your doctor. What is the damage? Not the condition the damage. So many people concentrate on a condition. I'm asking you the result. Of the condition. What happened to you? Did your illness get worse? Or do you have a definitive damage? No, you do not Drew. You don't talk. What is it thought? What is that probably is gonna cost me 8000. It's going to cost me thousands of more dollars to have the same car transported in from the Midwest is going to cost me money. Plus, I'm going to get a much worse deal. Plus the fact that I've been stuck inside here believing Toyota, but the car was coming this week that is rooted in front of him. And you don't have to go to federal court. You can take it to superior Court. You don't have my God Drew Drew. You don't you didn't have any damages. I honest to God, You don't understand what it damages. Here's what the damage is. Um, your condition got worse. It's now fatal Or now you develop something else as a result of not going, your doctor, But even that is not necessarily actionable because you have a duty to mitigate your damages, like getting another ride. If it's truly.
"blake harris" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"For a free market valuation. 303. 9 to 0 16 22. Um Blake Harris, attorney at Law is someone I use so much. He's almost like a co host here. My goodness, I honest to God, I think he's won. He's on the show. Um, more than anyone. Ah, Blake. Is with Mile high state planning Blake. This is an interesting question, and you know how we like to play this game. I like toe. I like to play amateur, Um, Blake's assistant and see if I can take a shot at it. But Hank said That his wife had an investment account. And it was in her name only with no beneficiary. It's now got up to $267,000. And she died, Hank. First of all, I don't want you to think we're taking that lightly. How are you doing? By the way, How's it going? I am. But all of a sudden, I got a bunch of loose ends here. I never thought I had. So this is the one that's got to be stopped. You know, a lot of men Just assume Their wives will outlive them. You know, it's not a funny thing. A lot of men do a lot of men that find themselves alone. It's a lot different than the other way around. Women seemed to handle things better. I don't know what it is, but anyway. He's got some loose ends. One of them is this investment account with no beneficiary named now Blake. He wanted to know what when he gets around to him, does he have to pay tax? It's 267001st and foremost, there's no inheritance tax below. About 11 Million It might be raised is 11 Hour 16 million breath, Blake. It's still at $11 million and change her individual now here's what I want to say Hank. Yeah. Um, but will tax be do Here's what I think is the answer on the tax. Okay, no inheritance tax. But if he was trading with in that account before she died and made some capital gains and those taxes in that account Had not been paid for that account. Those taxes maybe do is that right, Blake? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Would you think qualified investment account, which is? No, no, I don't think it was. It wasn't part of a retirement plan. Was it? Hank? No, No. Okay, So let's assume Hank, for example. Let's say before she died, she made 10 grand profit on one of those investments. She's going to get a 10 99 or something from the investment house, saying that she made some money. Now those taxes would have been paid by her, so they have to be paid by the estate. What a lot of people mistake is believing That's an inheritance tax. It's not. It's simply a normal tax. That would have been owed by the deceased. That's the on Lee tax that would be do so at the end of the year. She used to reconcile and she would find out how much he made during the year and she'd pay taxes on it. And that is the on Lee tax. That would be do But the question is. How do you get the account now? Blake? How does he get the account? She is deceased. There's no beneficiary. It's 267,000. Did she have a will Hank? No, we have a trust. Well, what does that mean? A trust well from reading the trust everything that we have is owned by the trust, although it isn't put into the trust. Well, it's not owned by the trust is unless it's put into the trust like that investment account. Was it in the title of the trust Wernher? It was her Okay. Ah, lot of people make the mistake of forming a trust and never putting stuff in it. Yes, I'm so so, Yeah. So this is outside the trust. By the way, Hank, you should go to Blake Harris after this and just and just meeting up all that stuff, But right now, I wanted to say this right now. You have an investment account. Blake. How does he How it Since he's the husband, even without a will, he would get that anyway. He's the only you know. That's the first one. It goes to. How does he get it in his name? Does he have to go to probate? What does he do? Okay. Well, actually, Tom, he did not necessarily get it as the husband if there are Children that his wife had that did not belong to him. But About it, because because there's a there's probably a well as well. There's a trust and we worked the cab company. In turn. It is also a will, which would direct the fund to the trust. Blake. What happens to since you brought it up it? Let's say she had kids from another marriage. And Hank from this marriage. What happens? Okay, So if she had Children from a previous relationship, and there was no state planning documents and place to default and testes et laws would take over the default laws, give the 1st $150,000 to the surviving spouse and then split the remaining 50 50 between surviving spouse and the Children from a previous relationship. Okay, so Kang did you guys have? Does she have kids from a previous relationship? 01 surviving. Yes. How old 06 58 60 somewhere in there. Well, then it's not a simple as I thought, Is it, Blake? Well, he'll get the 1st 1 50. Will he have to switch now? I'm assuming there's no will. Hank Is there a will There is no will. It's just Birbal. Well, there's no will. There's no way a verbal wills no will and the trust It wasn't funded with this. If it had been funded with this are you, the trustee who's the trustee? Um Well, now I'm the trustee now. And then you said thanks. Well, it says in my will that I'm the trustee, and then my daughter takes over. After both of us are gone now is your daughter the product of both of you or just you? Both of us. Oh, Blake. Now what happens there's an investment account of $267,000. He's the surviving spouse. No. Will Ah, daughter from both of them. In a biological son from her. Oh, what happens, Blake? Okay, So the daughter that is from her and from Hank is disregarded. She doesn't get anything that the mome Her ghost goes to her dad, her shape she disregarded. She's she's not a party to this at all. The only child who gets anything is the child from the previous relationship. However, Hank, There is some good news for the 1st $150,000 would go to you. However, you also have the right to a family allowance. Which would be another $35,000 that you could take from this state, as well as a surviving spouse or a personal property exemption, which can come in the former cast for another $35,000. And then you can pay yourself some to be the one to administer the estate, which Another $2000. So basically, her son gets a buck 98. Or something. I mean, he gets hardly anything. Okay. And it's sorry. I mean, Hank is this guy Is this guy knowing his mom died knowing there's money there? He knows there's money, but he's got money of his own. He's not money was never of it. A question about who gets what? You'd be surprised. Sometimes, though, I mean, I'm not saying he is. It's Blake has seen some amazing things happen after someone dies. Here's what we're going to do, Hank. We're still back to the question. 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"blake harris" Discussed on TalkRadio 630 KHOW
"Six six and we do have Blake Harris with this attorney at law from mile high state plan he will talk to the man and he is really busy these days because a lot of people thought you know what I could end up in the hospital on a ventilator and then what how do I even pay my bills what do I do you know not all estate planning has to do with death it could be directives while you're alive and protecting assets while you're while you're alive also doling things out while you're alive or a combination of stuff before and after death so we'll talk to Blake if you have any questions on wills probate estate planning you can call us at three oh three seven one three talk and remember three oh three Martino also works James he's got a question for us having to do with cars and parking any question probably complain if it has to do with cope with nineteen you can call us on that too as well and we invite you to check out all our posts on referral list dot com I mean our our videos and YouTube and of course Facebook and I summarized the opening of the show yesterday some people had requested that by email and I summarize that put that on Facebook and YouTube just the opening of the show from yesterday so James what's going on with you what's happening well hi what's going on James can you hear me I'm not yes I can I can hear you James what's going on James I got my vehicle so yesterday by Matt waiting we've learned a lot while I was entitled they lay out there is that it was hi about what's on my driveway I'm gonna call the fact then it happened that what that is now I'm not showing it down wait wait what do you mean and no towing zone you mean a no parking zone yeah no parking I'm sorry yeah so part of it was in a no parking zone and part of it was on your driveway that's correct well how is that does your driveway extend over the sidewalk and then you were parked partially out to the sidewalk or what sure yeah I was part part of the vehicle was on the sidewalk in the driveway okay well who ordered it towed or did they just do it on their own okay they get it on their own but do they have a contract do they have a contract with the city no well they can't was there a sign there saying No parking tow away zone yeah well they have to have a pre existing agreement with the city if this is public property we're talking about they can't just come and take it away now what the part that you were encroaching on was it public property or was it someone else's property well great thank you it was the thirty three but they can't just tell you from a city street unless they have a contract with the city what's the story on that okay I checked with the thirty yeah if any the thirty twelve days that that's great if not qualified for it the extreme that it's actually a private train okay then if privates that somebody called who called the tow company that's the point who called the tow company when I went to pick the vehicle up yeah they told they told me that one of their drivers was driving through yes and all that it was illegally parked but they can't just pick it up unless they have a contract with the city or the property owner they're not allowed to just go out and pick up illegally parked cars so who is their contract with who is their contract with they don't have one that Dara in Byron town home now you see you keep you keep adding things to it what's this town home big art is the town home the one that owns this property yeah in the town I listen I'll guarantee you James they they have a contract with the town home community the town home community either call them or they have an existing contract that's all you need to know the authority they have and if you were parked partially on their property they have a right to tell you so first you tell me it's a city street then you tell me something else now you're telling me it's a town home community yes if you're parked illegally at part of your thing is on the town hall property they could say get out of here they can do that so that's what happened right you were partially on the town home property right right okay well then what's the mystery here I called in Byron the people that own now rental property fair to all yeah and what did they say that they said they do not have a contract with Max when the all day they do not and they said they never called back knowing all my goodness so Max towing and just went out and did it all on their own and when I asked Mackey telling give show me buying yeah you know they don't listen vote they don't have to sign to have it towed all they have to have it is an existing contract well they said that their driver signed the authorization what driver check your truck drivers well listen you can sue them to get all your money back in small claims court James there is no way that listen I want to call Max towing who wants to call a we are ready to call we need to call these clouds they can't just way ahead on their own accord and start telling things okay now I think we're not hearing something this is usually a remark chimes in and says I think I'm not hearing something because when it comes to towing especially he always you know always seems to think that there's something we're missing and many times he's right is mark on there now is he ready mark what about it on it what do you think he said his car was parked partially out of town home property partially out his driveway and Max towing came we just took it away with no authorization from anyone just took it they can't do it that they can't do I apparently marks not on okay so listen here's the deal James and we we need to contact Max you want to call deputy Doug hold on Daphne give us the information and N. DA deputy doc will take it we need to figure out first who is their authorization period they need to tell us what we're calling the public utilities commission who regulates parking I mean that towing companies so hang on three oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five Gary wants to talk about reopening the city Gary please hang on we'll tell we'll we'll come to you right after I tell you about real CBD that works dot com for all of your CBD needs and if you don't think you need it it's an anti inflammatory pain reliever HIIT reducer it also is an immune booster by panacea life sciences they're also selling other things like hand sanitizer and I think bass.
"blake harris" Discussed on The Rubin Report
"This is your young charismatic chosen one and he is being called a racist. He's being called. The worst person person on the internet people are saying boycott oculus all the stuff real p._r. Disaster sympathetic to that but so what happened was no palmer. I'm one of the biggest influences is debate and so he liked about him is that he's talking. He doesn't just have his opinion saying well. That's my theory so his response response was to write a public statement and explain like <hes> most of the stuff is not true. Here's what is true here so it's not true like it's a very palmer like <hes> way of dealing with this and he described this organization in america donated them because of the principles of like you know you wanted to put an end to america's never ending wars and the millions of people dying which also becomes relevant with the company started after this but like you know. It's certainly didn't persuade over trump but it at least like he wasn't just like. Let's string liberal tears like he had a reason. Here's the reason for this and explain anyway. He supported trump would not let them put that. That's a job this news all at six p._m. Pacific time on a on a thursday. I think palm rotate almost right away and wanted to put it up. Facebook wouldn't let him say he supported trump unbelievable. I mean it's really yeah yeah so that's crazy again. Point trump is what if two people in a two parties who i personally despised but i also more everyone should be bernie candidate. They wanted us non candidate. I hate to do this but our schedules so not say so. We have to have some it. Can we do this all in five minutes yeah. Let's try in five minutes so anyway. The next palmer's dina get the statement out every hour new articles coming out and then finally he gets a statement that he is has told the post and this statement comes directly from mark zuckerberg margaret the statement and it says the parmigiana posts supporting gary johnson so palmer is being told to lie about his politics and say these supporting harry johnson and palmer of course doesn't wanna do this but he's told he'll be fired doesn't do it so he does that and and that's illegal in california also really unethical what what's illegal to force someone lied political beliefs in a public statement then palmer's put on suspension for the next six months. He is ends up being fired but i just could not believe that arc doc personally wrote a statement that was so so intolerable to support trump that he had to say that supporting gary johnson and then that also was terrible for his reputation what was left to because yeah. The liberal mainstream press went after him with racist bullshit but then all the bag of people who messages just like oh. I'm going to buy a headset because they're all like oh. He's a coward or he really isn't gary johnson. I think he's an idiot. You must've talked to him about why he didn't and just take whatever money he had gotten already and just walk. I'd be very careful with things. I talked with them and obviously signed agreements but i have i have a very close relationship initiative spoken to him almost every day for the past three years and unfortunately people facebook thought what happened with so messed up. They were really helpful to getting me internal documents so i was able all to piece together the story get marks actual email forcing palmer to lie about his political beliefs and the but the short answers your question <hes> <hes> that i have never been able to actually ask him but it's because he will. He will do anything to say like he's like he was yeah it was maybe like at at one point after they they they tried to fire him and give him no none of his remaining vesting money basically backloaded deal. He's had okay. I'll work for free but they wouldn't let continue to work there like it was it was everything it's like silicon valley on h._b._o. Bananas yeah. There's so much more here and there's such there's such a connection between this this last i i will gladly have you back. I mean this last fifteen minutes especially. It's so connective to so many of the things i talk about related to the tech growth free speech and politics and the mob and all of these things so it's it's it's fascinating and we do like i was the darling the tech press world i wrote this book is being turned into a movie. Most people like the book because i think it was very well written but just sagan intendo thing. It is now <hes> july. The book's been out for four months. It has still not been a single review of the book. Not a single person in the gaming community has acknowledged my book. God awful freaks. Fortunately we're so we're back. Yeah has promoted the helmet how on a few times and the book went up to number two on all called amazon which totally kicked the first book outsold my first book which is the best video game of all time. They're still has not been a single view. I wonder why all right yeah well. I don't write book reviews but we will link to should we link to amazon. Is that where he wanted to link. We will link to amazon for this book. We'll do this again because there's so much more here. It's so connected to some of those other. Things will streams video games or something because especially especially if you're not very good it would be a pleasure to be all right. It's been fun. There's a lot lot more here obviously for more on blake follow him on the twitter machine at blake jay harris n._y._c..
"blake harris" Discussed on The Rubin Report
"I was always sports. Gaming sounds like a very good at his n._h._l. Ninety four which i've ever came time in there. Did you see it in there. That's amazing yeah so sports games. I am and i also love you know not game for two players players sport games really were and i had his brother or have this brother two years younger than me and now he's my best friend but back then i hated despised and he was so nice and i was so nice and that was playing genesis and the one thing that we did break friends yeah a lot of good memories. It's interesting that i can see that. A good portion of this is that excites you is. The is the business part of the marketing part because i remembered seeing sega genesis for the first time my friend josh had it. I went to his house and he was playing golden ghost. Which i think was in that original they came out with. Maybe six or eight games altered beast. I think came with the system and then but i remember seeing golden ghost and my mind was blown like it was the graphics were so much better. The colors were so much richer. The music was incredible arcade-quality. Which you mentioned like that was kind of where we i saw a lot of these games and it was a big step up. Yeah you're saying that actually didn't have that much to do necessarily with the success that it really was more on the marketing and business or do you think that he was so such an obvious jump well i would say that the genesis came out in one thousand nine exactly describe with altered beast and going and all that stuff and it didn't do well so it klew had to be more than just the game so good story that sort of sums up what this was all like it sort of the spirits again why i was fascinating about it was as kids and even as adults you sort of imagine. There's this meritocracy to it like the best consoles most shelf space and tell the most but that was the case especially because intendo had monopolistic practices. They later faced the f._t._c. issues so i'm not really speaking out of school to say that. What were you know be situation where they for such a great deal of warmer countered for ten percent of walmart's business one year just one division of the the twenty twenty space in the store and so you know if walmart wanted to carry another console nintendo would say oh well then you know maybe the mario brothers three shipments shipments going to not make it to you guys i. We can't control what happens with these <hes>. That's what i did a lot of stuff like that and so you know i remember hearing stories from people say that they'd go go to walmart. It'd be like here's our new concepts. Better kids like david say like you know. Look at these graphics is better and walmart like yeah but sorry we're not. We have a relationship with the ten dough and so i ended up doing was they were down. No arkansas that was the headquarters of walmart and across the street from the headquarters was the small area and there was signed today rented this area and they opened the sega genesis which sold nothing but it just encourage people to come in and play this play the jetsons for free and they also bought every billboard in bentonville they buck a cushions at the football games and they turned saying it they basically turned ben dylan to sega ville and then you had all these people going into the flagship walmart store being like we're gonna get sick genesis and clever cheap guerrilla marketing and that is what eventually got the walmart v._p. To call up thompson ski and say all right we raise the red flag. We're gonna carrie secret products so i dismissed the importance of the games themselves like none of this would exist game themselves like if you're starting getting a i can tell you to focus on but it's not enough as with a lot of things you know good contacts you have to figure out a way to get it to people and especially when you're dealing with the competitor like nintendo is it mind-blowing and for someone that knows the history of it and also played them to see what the video game world has become now that it has become it's not just you you know you probably know the numbers on how much revenue games are bringing in and all that stuff but it's not just about the numbers and the finances that it's become a culture onto itself. I think there's a direct act connection between the culture war that we're fighting politically and having a lot to do with the video game world and gamer gain all these things that that video game culture birthed out some other thing no. It's so amazing that like i said i'm not very good games and i don't really play much games games nowadays and so with most things like that where i'm not good at or you know. The young kids are using snapchat. I don't kind of like a crotchety old man with games. I almost feel like i'm smiling off the side proud i love the kids gathered in a way that i don't even though it makes me feel like i'm missing something i because i love gaming. I love the culture around rounded and i never would have expected this to happen like i remember like i said my father is awesome so he would play marrow's one with my my brother and i but he did it in the same way as a parent would go to a tea party with with a child like it was like he was standing but it was a the thing that i doing and and say the most important part of their legacy is how they transformed what video games were from childish play things into consumer electronics onyx opposite around the same way anymore but that is really like the answer to why does this matter and the other thing so. Let's let's say that for seconds okay so there's there's any s. and then say good genesis comes in but what is that transition that you're talking about where they got into consumer sure so so basically when tom clancy took over he realized nintendo ninety five market and they were just so dumb it with kids six to fourteen that to us they're kind of it's kind of like moneyball story where they had like one tenth the resources of nintendo so to try to get intendo scorpions didn't work and so they've figured zag so you guys can have the kids we're going to go after teenagers and adults which my dad like that was not the audience and so- sega sega instead of selling toys wanted to get into you know the back then version of best buy into into places where you buy a cool cool sony walkman or so interesting and then they also just you know the market was a big deal like what you described zelda to. It was not uncommon. There was not really release date to these things like even though you knew it was commanded few weeks like the fact that they were selling it ahead of time it will come out the same day in the same places and sega followed but they wanted to make the film industry like to make a big out of this is coming. Here is a trailer for it. Here's all these months of hype for for better for worse but that is what gave sort of moderate game industry and the culture around it and i was just say that you know one of the things that was amazing to me was pretty his book proposal for council members and at that time seth rogan had already optioned it to do a movie he was going to produce the documentary for me and my buddy journa- tools to direct scott ritter was involved and he adapted you know movies the accident social ever so dream team packaging baggage which i'm like the least important person so happy and i thought like this should be a slam dunk of course we're going to sell this this seth rogan scott rudin saying intendo and eh the proposal at the twenty five publishers twenty two in the past because i said video game books don't sell that gamers don't read and so that's part of the reason i just feels such a kinship unshipped with the the gaming audience one because they bought the book it proved publish wrong and to because they're talked down to all the time they're they're underestimate estimate all the time and it's ridiculous had ready player one nut or anything no one had come out in two thousand twelve or right right so it had come out but they would say oh. That's my books fiction. That's fiction science fiber even though it's clearly taxes that same audience but <hes> <hes> i'm sure it wouldn't shock you to know the most publishers have sort of older school. Maybe could updating time in the midst of writing. I i look at the moment <hes> become a curricular this yeah okay so so now sega starts winning basically now super nintendo comes out the competitions titians again. I someone told me actually but am i getting this right. The super nintendo actually outsell sega at some point. We go from because that's hard for me to believe too because what you're talking about. We all cordoned off in our own little world. I was in genesis world so most of my friends at genesis so it's hard for me to believe that could be true. You know davies is lavar echo chambers. They weren't algorithm rhythmically. Giving spa was okay so we ninety-nine sega strikes out with genesis nineteen ninety some some headway actually ninety-one. They come out sonic. Tom's plans are executed and they still nintendo's intendo so intendo still out sells them at first and then slowly but surely sega keeps getting momentum and then the big turning point was combat. You know this was a game that back then like arcade games are almost like the minor leagues of these consoles like i remember going to pizza is as our local pizza place and they had mortal combat. It was a huge deal. This is coming to consoles and usually what would happen is one of the two consummate here's intend to say we get exclusive rights to it and it would come. That's schreider tubes to at least initially it was only available super nintendo that really helps and that was third party game first party games like mario kart and zelda and all that and and cleaned the makers of mortal kombat decided that they wanted to release on both systems on the same day which was not only interesting but it was also the a great litmus test between save ten for once it would just be and that was against the antennas policies at the time right. Didn't they get into some fight with tekken. I think about that because they were trying to release things differences all sorts of strong strong arm tactics some of them that ended up leaving the cortex the antitrust off and also famously sued glued the makers of game genie because oh yeah like you know this was messing up their creative games by giving you extra lives they also sued blockbuster and the rental companies because they you said you know you can't rent out our games tended to end up winning a lot of these things but but that was also good because i loved the behind the scenes that that's where i think the drama is and that's another big reason that it was successful because these are glued is a name and it's a company but it's also people so city decided that they were going to form a cartel those enemies and be like nintendo's really strict. 'cause you guys we will work with you. Let's make this happen. There's people kalou yes. Let's go out of our way to actually be intendo so you. You know whether it's partnerships like that or whether it's just small things i remember talking to the buyer at the wiz and he said you know we couldn't explicitly do anything really early on but like he would always make sure that the genesis this is the prime real estate in a small space..
"blake harris" Discussed on The Rubin Report
"Well. That's exactly why wanted to have you on because so first off your next book which is is your new book. The history of the future is going to get us that that'll be the second half of this interview and that will get us sort of up to speed on what's going on with tech and sort of gaming and technology and virtual reality and all all that but the first half where i wanted to focus on these things i mean most of my audience says i consider myself sort of like a like a retired video because those old systems hey. I just don't have much time anymore so that that's one thing but those old systems there was a simplicity to it. They just run one direction. You couldn't even run that way. It couldn't even run run backwards. You know mario could bring in that way but the more he were to less room yet this week. There was a certain simplicity to all of it that to grow up with it. I mean i remember one thousand nine hundred fifty nine years old. I remember my buddy john getting nintendo entertainment system with gyro dot com and it had that ridiculous robot gyro might rob rob rob the robot and i remember it just blew my mind. I could not believe anything could be this cool. The amount of hours that me and my friends spent sleepovers sleepovers playing either mario brothers or eventually. We shifted mostly to the sports games. This is loaded and r._b._i. Baseball double dribble and all those things and all the game's not working and blowing in the games and you know sometimes taking apart the controllers to get everything working and all that are roughly probably a couple of years younger than me six thirty six forty three so i'm a little all that like you know obviously reflect on airline video games. I never considered gave her. I was a kid and that's what you did and it was really the social number two the time like i wouldn't call you up and say hey dave you. Wanna have asleep. When we're talking about girls. It'd be okay you want play mario and the girls and like it was just this thing that you did and i did pretty poorly. I i've always been bad at video games. Were you not a good gamer. I it's kind of embarrassing because so so if you want to write one and gamers or so disrespected and you know i've been so embraced by that community i want. There'd anymore books but i'm terrible. I never tried to hide that but i think it's a big part of why i like you. You know if i have an hour policy playing <hes> <hes> you know n._b._a. Jam or banded ninety three or something like that instead of the latest games <hes> because i'm just terrible damage. It's a little too complex. I'm and i'm just a simple right well. It was one thing to only run this way and not sweeping now. You're running this way and you read this way and that's where for me for the tiny debrief moments of time i have. I'm like i'd rather just play contra up down left right left right so let's start and you you know have fun for ten minutes and then try to play a game. That's going to basically give me a headache yeah. I thought it was pretty interesting. I'm curious so assume that the two reasons that we like playing games is it's simple and fine which is what you look for in a game and then also the stoller factor these came to town our lives <hes> <hes> but i've spoken to college students and high school students and it's been so amazing that they they play mario games games for the nineties so how come why interesting i was just gonna stall gic but they didn't grow up reminding but what is it that it reminding now what's interesting. I guess it's a two prong thing at a certain way where it's sort of like the simplicity and fun part right because it was just two buttons. There was a limited amount of things you could do. I think the games generally focused. Maybe a little bit more on fun where they're now focused on challenges or something like that graphics and right and much more heavy on graphics graphics and story where used to wait a lot every time. I put on that playstation four. It's mostly like i'm literally sleeping by the time we get to the screen but the nostalgia part it's interesting because all now i have a ten year old nephew and i'll play playstation with him or i've even watched him play with some of his friends and they're playing like n._b._a. Two k. nineteen under something and to be of a certain age and to be able to immerse yourself fully in something. That's really what i think it is that if you can remember what that feeling ling is like for those little brief moment and there are moments when i'm playing with him where i can suddenly feel that when you're completely immersed and i'm not thinking about politics the fact that the world world spinning off its access or you know whatever else is going on there. I think it's a few of those things right enough about me. I wanna talk about these these console. I remember we're being in arcades before that so i never so atari was the system before any came out. That was the main one there was also there are a couple of others. Coleco vision evokes odyssey. I bet you that because the guy who invented games ralph bayer that i got to spend a lot of time with him before he passed away and super salute great guy who should always be mentioned because he's often forgotten nolan bushnell atari credited did great things coleco vision television and then the industry died in nineteen three. There's this crash of video games the you know sort of famously highlighted by the burial of billions of e._t. Cartridges because actually made more e._t. Cartridges were consoles right and it was terrible right so they i remember that game. I remember my friend. Adam had it on atari and it was a horrible stiff the lead to admit it was 'cause nobody would admit fifty bucks had a loved these things you pretend you love them. So it's a great game. What what were they possibly thinking so atari. Hari puts out a game with more copies than the system itself. This seems like i'm not a great business man but this doesn't see my business to me right but but it's almost like it's just it's the personification always happens. You know when you have the success can't fail and there's a huge risk so they said it's licensing. It's a popular movie. It's a game you know probably made by people who had lost touch with the audience. It worked is probably the best that you can say about it but but it was made i think it's six weeks and and really did just like personify the fact that there was this oversaturation of games. 'cause you know for for younger. Listeners viewers out there. Remember like you know this is before the internet. We didn't know what you're getting. I remember going toys with my parents and it was like the special time with goodbye brother game the first time that wasn't for birthday honecker whatever our and our entire criteria for choosing the game which is the box like we had no idea what the gameplay was like so i'm sure that he did sell well initially because people are like oh he gets atari can't miss by definitely missed and and then the industry essentially died like nintendo went out in nineteen eighty five and and introduced the farrakhan's which was founded computer in japan which here was the eight bit nintendo entertainment system. No it's not an exaggeration say like i've talked to the guys as we go into wiz and radio shack try to sell these things and they will not give him the time of day the veterans their buyers. I don't want video games. We lost a lot of money on this. So oh same memories as you were. Just you know my eyes light up playing it again and then it was just amazing but it wasn't about the quality was just about this baggage yeah yeah it's so hard to believe that at some level because you know i'm nine years old in one thousand nine hundred five and it just took over our world but after that crash what caused just that two year window from eighty three to eighty five what was it that independent nintendo was able to do because it was a huge jumping graphics it was a huge show and music but it wasn't just that that was also the fun thing like super mario to like that defined a generation and actually built an entire industry basically right obviously the the easiest answer is good games or better games what came before and that's certainly true and it was a step up in a way that hasn't really happened before you go friday to super. Mario brothers is a big jump but as as you know i learnt going on with these books so much about the marketing the promotion and intendo just had a really unique approach to all of this you probably now. I finally remember the nintendo power like sort of like a cult in the best sense of the word. It was like you know getting kids involved on this thing. I remember one code phone monarchic. Who's the president of america him saying that. They're suggesting like you know we. We need to put out of exile games at the same time and he's like no i want. I think it was relevant to be out mostly. No other game really for like six weeks 'cause he wanted everyone playing the same at the same time. <hes> wanted this communal experience. I think that was is a big part of it to a concerted effort behind it. I remember being commute. I remember friendships being made and lost and that was all. We talked about it at school school. I don't want to brag but so sometime around this has got around eighty seven or so zelda to came out adventure of link and i was at my grandma's in jersey and i think the store was called. Kaldor is just like just like a sears store and i remember i knew when when zelda to was supposed to come out it wasn't supposed to come out for a couple of weeks and they had a copy of it there. I begged and begged a big pleaded. Please please my grandma buys us this game which was probably like fifty bucks which was a lot of money at the time you know and my brother and i beat it in about two weeks now. It's thought that i think is one of the most complex yeah it was really one of those difficult delegates other but we took a picture of ourselves as we beat it a black and white picture that appeared in nintendo power magazine kazeem really all right i could i could end the show right now. That's it that's so cool yeah so all right so nintendo really changes the game with this and and then at the same time now sega comes out with the master system. I truly don't remember anyone that i know that had the master system. It was like a joke to us yeah. Let's not unusual like this wasn't like a coke. Pepsi situation where coq had like sixty five percent of the market like nintendo actually had over ninety five percent of the market get one of my favorite adds that time was it was an added said there's no such thing as an intendo because that's my game nintendo about ditch the trademark concerns jacuzzi has come to represent hot tub kleenex yeah so like the ten was at point where they were so scenarist the games that it was actually a synonym for video games and so they were so dominant and sega essentially realized that they couldn't win this eight bit bad also so they tried to change the location of the war sixteen bits twice as good graphics but as we sort of touched on earlier you know deficit making more fun it makes it flashier and allowed you'll think ah the genesis came in and started to to eat into the ten does market share but that's not actually what happened..
When Facebook bought Oculus, did it make the VR firm less relevant?
"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by smart water smart water is on a mission dad fresh thinking to the world that's why they created two new ways to hydrate smart water alkaline with nine plus ph helps keep you hydrated while you're on the move and smart water antioxidant without its selenium helps you find balance fear body and mind and now you could order smart water by saying alexa order smart water yourselves will think you're so smart water that's pretty smart how much did the rise in all of opulent do with baseball from american public media this is marketplace tech demystify the digital economy hollywood back in twenty fourteen the virtual reality company occupy who's gonna revolutionize vr for gaming yucky less risk headset for gamers by gamers end of story but then facebook's by the company for about two billion billion dollars because it had a much bigger vision for virtual reality as the future of engagement people hanging out in vr like they did on the news feed having a good time and watching ads for hours in twenty nineteen that vision is still a vision and in fact they occupy is true believers never really forgave the company in march i spoke with blake harris they author of the history of the future aki lists facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality here's part two of our conversation station what was so special lowest so significant about occupies what's this idea of being loved and it was this idea of of having such a strong connection with their user base and what their community that is a big part of the book this backlash when a oc elizabeth solta facebook's people felt reliever betrayed you talk about palmer lucky getting death threats do you think that in addition to not ever really maturing gaming on the platform that loss of the sort of fan community we know how important and that could be that that loss really did prove to be you know more significant than people realize you're absolutely right i mean you also have to remember that this was a kickstarter company this is a crowd funded company and so it almost was like watching a reality tv show 'cause every few days they put on update they had such a great relationship with their customer base and maybe you know like a reality show maybe that wasn't fully authentic behind the scenes look what you felt like you were a part of it and then after you acquisition that just stopped i think i was a little skeptical or i thought the backlash with a little bit of an overreaction but at the same time i had someone at a book signing asked me last week about occupations new headset coming out the springs documents quest and they said you know it seems like an incredibly affordable great technological headset and i said you up and they said but should i buy it 'cause i don't trust baseball game and i really have no good answer 'cause i you know i i want you to buy 'cause then it'll help big vr more popular but i totally have those concerns and and and i wouldn't blame someone for not purchasing that's because of that i assume soom then that you'd be this book the cautionary tale for other start off yeah around the time of the acquisition of accuweather's face but could also recently acquired instagram and also a month prior acquired what's app and sort of their big pitch to to occupy was look how much economy we've given these two companies end it's significant to me that i guess last year the year before that you know the founders of what's app instagram innocuous almost all of them are gone they're opening quote of of the book is that quote from mad men were peggy olsen says you never say thank you and don draper says that's what the monies for and recover founders to be aware or entrepreneurs be aware of the bargain that's being made when you sell your company that no matter what you're told you are going to lose control and and that is what the money's worth so make sure it's enough money to make you happy like harris's de author of the history of the future earlier this summer aki lists did return to the big e3 gaming convention after a two year absence to show off its new quest headset
"blake harris" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM
"One oh three five FM listening to the bank the bank program we was Blake Harris author of the history of the future and you were going to share some some so this is the earliest wrist and these were with success my first book which had me mention you know making test chamber of the year lists and all that stuff being really well respected in the gaming and tech communities I had a lot of friendships or relationships with tech journalist and so I reached out to them because I also didn't want to publicly embarrass them of their areas with Palmer Luckey at least a first I wanted to give them the chance to correct it or hear their side of the story so this was one who's an editor at one of the top gaming sites explaining why he said that the trouble gender is so hard on its face that the way the coverage that the way this played out justified the coverage and the reaction to Palmer Luckey so even though the news reports are not accurate the fact that hundreds of some supporter justifies the inaccuracies while credible business is someone who didn't air personally but I was asking his perspective he's he's a reporter at one of the top tech sites and explain he this was his he said I think the Parma news just came in a really awful time in Silicon Valley was looking first trump scapegoat because Peter Thiel seemingly bulletproof so I couldn't get Peter what his own boss but they can get Palmer by the way now its own boss because he doesn't ever want this to happen again this last one was just this was on a personal messages was a public message on Facebook by a journalist attacked journalist at one of the top business sites and and this was the day after the election he said I no longer trust the media and also I'm a professional journalist and a major media outlet ask me anything and so that was I thought it was important because that was kind of like me I felt like wow I'd always trust the media I'm part of the media in some way and that really let my introspection was trump winning realizing okay maybe what I was hearing was not true and I went on this journey over the past few years apparently this guy didnt or you know the guys represent of so many folks who instead of trying to understand the other side instead of listening instead of trying to think of I messed up they just double down yeah which isn't good which is not good either way to run a civilization no and you know what it is my brother double down I would say you're being an idiot but these are journalists it's it's their job to not double that was their job to say am I wrong we're their job to actually you would have thought like this is even use your story with Zuckerberg coercing executive to lie about his politics who cares about was wrong this isn't even sexier story but.
We were all supposed to have virtual reality headsets by now, but Oculus stalled
"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by smart water smart water is on a mission dad fresh thinking to the world that's why they created two new ways to hydrate smart water alkaline with nine plus ph helps keep you hydrated while you're on the move and smart water antioxidant without its selenium helps you find balance fear body and mind and now you can order smart water by saying alexa order smart water yourselves will think yourself smart water that's pretty smart hockey list was supposed to bring virtual reality to everyone by now what happened from american public media this is marketplace tech demystifying the digital economy i'm ali would virtual reality is a technology that keeps on promising in about the last decade the promise has teamed so much closer especially when occupies came along look like such a game changer that facebook dropped two billion million dollars on it in twenty fourteen in march i spoke with blake harris see author of the history of the future aki lists facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality here were revisiting that conversation and it's really two stories first first is the story of how aki lists and all a virtual reality tech has kind of stalled and the second is the role that facebook's played in that stall at first i asked harris where aka elicits right now they're in the top two in and industry of to so that's commendable at least there in the industry but a but but certainly not where they expected to be you know as part of my research i ended up spending three and a half years are researching reporting this book and i was actually going over email from mark mark zuckerberg to a document ceo brandon reid from a mother to before they acquire them and mark was saying that he estimated there would be fifty two hundred million vr headsets about five years from that and then so we're almost at the five year mark and not there certainly are not you know there's probably one two million vr headsets out there and that's you know one twentyeight stuff with expectation was wow well so then i wonder is it a book about how the having the good technology is not enough having the best technology it's not always a winning formula expectations is a big part of it messaging is a big part of it too and i think the backlash to the acquisition of vacuous by facebook is a good indication of how poorly act was handled that messaging and how the vr community felt about facebook's being involved in this thing that you know all technology is intimate but vr is incredibly intimate it's it's on your face it chicken tractor eye movements there's cameras in your house 'em so facebook's there'll be involved in this was really unnerving to a lot of people let stare down that hard reality that the tack maybe is just way harder than anybody gives it credit for and that that it was the ultimately like a lack of of software and a lack of really truly immersive experiences in motion sickness and front i mean are you bearish are bullish on virtual reality overall i'm still more bullish than ever and part of that is emotional you know when people take off the virtual reality headset after the first demo so many people i know my wife included said wow that i just saw the future that's the future and you don't even really know what that means how do you make a business out of something that we all agree is very cool but what is the value that is it entertainment is productivity you that is why you still see google and microsoft and apple and these other big tech players still just dipping their toe into virtual reality and augmented reality because there's not really you know money to be made there but also they're still doubt it's ever going to be the future like harris says they author of the history of the future which is out now to be fair since we talked occupiers did release it occupies quest headset a standalone device it doesn't require a pc or a phone and review say it has slightly more mainstream of field
"blake harris" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA
"Blake-harris author of the history of the future, and you were gonna share some some. These lists were with the success of my first book, which had me meant, you know, making teamer of the year list and all that stuff being really well respected, and the gaming and tech communities. I had a lot of friendships or relationships with tech journalist, and so I reached out to them because I also didn't want to publicly embarrass them of their with Palmer lucky at least I I wanted to give them the chance to correct it or here in their side of the story. So this was one who's editor top gaining sites explaining why he said, the Trump agenda so hard on its face that the way the coverage that the way this played out justified the coverage and the reaction to Palmer lucky. So even though the news reports were not accurate. The fact that Trump supporter justifies the inaccuracies. Wow. This is someone who didn't air personally. But I was asking his perspective. He's he's a reporter at one of the top tech sites. And explain this was his. He said, I think the Palmer news just came at a really awful time and Silicon Valley was looking for Trump scapegoat 'cause Peter chill was seemingly bulletproof so they couldn't get Peter his own boss, but they can get Palmer. Zone boss because he doesn't ever want this happen again this last one was just on a personal message. This was a public message on Facebook by a journalist tech journalist at one of the top business sites. And this was the day after the election. You said I no longer trust the media. And also, I'm a professional journalist at a major media outlet asked me anything. And so that was I thought that was important because that was kind of like me I felt like, wow, I always trusted the media. I'm part of the media in some way. And that really led my introspection was Trump winning realizing. Okay. Maybe what I was sharing was not true. And I went on this journey over the past few years. Apparently this guy did into this guy's Representative. So many folks who instead of trying to understand the other side instead of listening instead of trying to think if I messed up they just doubled down. Yeah. Which isn't good which is not good run a civilization. No. And you know, what if my brother doubled down? I would say you're being an idiot. But these are journalists job to knock double down. It's their job to say am I wrong, or it's their job to actually you would've thought like this even juicier story with Zuckerberg coercing executive to live out his politics? Who cares.
"blake harris" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"Talking to Blake Harris. The book is the history of the future. I would also highly recommend his book console wars. I mean, he's a great author Blake is with us. And so far like really what you have. Here is a great American entrepreneurial story this kid who is in a trailer. He brings virtual reality from nothing to a two billion dollar sale at Facebook. You know, the technology's is questionable about where it's going at this point with Facebook. But the exit of the inventor of this is a fascinating story. So I mean to me. I know you're always running. But but everything I always of right with grandmother in mind. How could I get her interested in this tax gory? And so to me was always the story of the American dream in twenty twelve twenty twenty nineteen I'm more so than it was about virtual reality. And then the final third of the book becomes other much stressing which I guess might actually be a, you know, a good leads to the perversion of the American dream, just how politics weighed two ways to everything. But, but I just want to say, you know, you mentioned before the break that it's sort of astonishing how much space because burned custody of the past few years. And and and that's true. For me. You know, they gave me unprecedented almost unlimited access. So I had a pretty high opinion of them just for my own selfish reasons, but what I came to discover during my research before eventually cut off because of what I discovered was just really. Immoral and terrible. And I should mention that, you know, I'm a lifelong liberal, not not offended all Trump. So you know, as we'll get now. It's like what I you know. I certainly wasn't looking for a sympathetic Trump supporter story. But that's what I well. Okay. So tell us the story. Sure. So it's a temper of twenty sixteen. So this was like six weeks before the presidential election. There was an article that came out about Palmer lucky out, the inventor of Oculus, and the headline was Facebook billionaire secretly funding Trump's mean machine and the insinuation explicitly and implicitly with every terrible mean that you've seen online for the past election season. Everything misogynistic antisemitic. Hateful that Palmer was like running toll factory, and that he was the person behind it all and that's just wasn't true. At all the truth was that he may a slightly less than ten thousand dollars donation to political organization that was pro-trump play put up billboards across the country. And that. You know, I always wonder how people react if they had on the truth because they might have just as badly. But anyway. Of time to the extent. You know, one of my favorite at least previously wired, you'd think sort of headed up publications not listed their headline. They missed this. Palmer lucky is the worst. That's it. The worst. And and so there was a, you know, PR crisis. And naturally Palmer wanted to writing statement to set out. What was true, and what was not true about the media reports and to say that wasn't Trump supporter, but you know, trolling thing and all these other aspects, we're not too. So he wrote a statement this happened on Thursday night. He was not allowed to post. It was not allowed to say that he was a Trump supporter. Facebook to executive level, which I found, you know, initially hard to believe that that was actually the case. But then I certainly was the case because I was able to finally obtain records, and I learned that the reason that it took so long from post his statement was that Mark Zuckerberg wait in March. I personally drafted the statement that Homer had the post and to statement that he drafted said that Palmer would be voting for Jerry Johnson. So not that was to unacceptable say Trump splitter. And so he had supposed to statement saying that he supported Gary Johnson written by Mark himself. And you know, he did that in order to save his job. Wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. But he wasn't voting for Gary Johnson. That is that illegal, and then he would be directed by the head of one of the most powerful organizations to say supporting politicians that. He wasn't. Wow. Yeah. So myself, so wait a minute. So how is it that a guy with two billion dollars from from Facebook doesn't sue Facebook for this? Doesn't press charges. Apart? It was at the time. You know, I interviewed over two hundred people for the book. And so I talked to some of the people that he confided to ask for vice from about Costa statement that what illegal and that he didn't agree with and they're responsive, basically. Yes, you know, you could sue Facebook and potentially win, but you wouldn't beat the company anymore, and it would take years and more than anything. Palmer wanted to remain at the company. You know, it was his eighty it was when you get done with mice. Granted it was a short time only twenty four. But but yeah, I mean. He he has a very strong case if he ever wants to pursue legal action. I assume that he signed an NDA of some kind. Permits that when Houston? Fires. But but yeah, he wasn't fired. He basically after he posted that statement, he was put on permanent, the -cation, Facebook employees. We're told that Palmer wants to take time off of work. It was framed as Palmer's decision. One of my favorite and satisfy is waiting to come back later, and he's you know, participating in town hall. Call cousins. We're actually not participating 'cause he was interested..
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"With me, nor was he able to talk about on Oculus stuff with me after that. So I think it was pretty clear that there was like us. I'm trying to NDA signed and all that then flash forward about a year into early twenty eighteen and I'm kind of the book and trying to finish up graft. And and I was out Facebook's campus in Menlo Park. And and you know, I made it very clear there that one of my biggest concerns the book was how to handle Palmer's exit because Palmer was one of the if not the main Hurter of this book, and and I couldn't just have him like like exit like like the language they use to not say with his fire was resigned. What happened I needed to provide some color for what happened, and you know, in some ways, that's why people would be reading my book because they wanted to know what happened. Maybe I couldn't get all the information. But I needed something. And and something is what they provided me and and turn out to be not true at all. And they, you know through told to me through a handful of people high level executives people who were positions to speak on behalf of Facebook. They, you know, they told me a story about how a Palmer had decided to leave on his own volition, and how he wants to start this other company, and how you know after that incident with the donation, you know, like powdery basically been back to work, and it wasn't really that big of a deal on an unrelated -ly, he just chose to leave and that sounded somewhat plausible until I brought that to some of my sources, and they kind of laughed at it. And with their help I was able to get. Get what actually happened, and because this was such a sensitive topic. I wanted to make sure that my version depicted in the book of what actually happened wasn't based on what Facebook was telling me, or what people who are maybe supportive apartment was telling me, but on actual archival documents that I could obtain and once I got that it did make a little more sense. Why Facebook was lying to me because in the aftermath of the controversy around Palmer's donation? Palmer had written a statement that explained that a lot of what you were reading was not true. Here's what was true. Here's what was not that. He wasn't Trump supporter. And here's why. And then he had not been allowed to post that statement because he was not allowed to publicly voice his support of Trump. And then Mark Zuckerberg personally wrote a statement for to post that said he'd be voting for Gary Johnson and Palmer need to post that he wanted to keep his job. And as we've established, you know, I was his baby and he really wanted to keep his baby and keep his job and so- Palmer. Post posted that and it turned out to not be true. It's also illegal to force an employee to lie about their politics. And then anyway, I once I found this out I sort of I didn't want outright bring this to Facebook. Because I didn't want to give them the chance to make up a new version of the story because they were already sort of correcting on other things like, for example, they told me that Palmer wants to leave. And then I said that I later learned it on December fourth like three months before that Palmer had Britain a statement to his colleagues saying he wanted to be at Oculus finished fifty years. So it seems weird that he would want to leave then that led to a, you know, a new tweak on their story..
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"Probably you know, it remains to be seen whether in history will look back and and say, oh, yeah. That that really was a really great choice. But but I mean, but it did give the market at least some sort of a, you know, a thumbs up. You're right. It did say well Facebook says her sure this is something that's worth throwing this amount of money into. We should all do the same. We should all get on board. And as far as the overall kind of promise of VR, maybe we aren't quite where it needs to be or where where we hope it would be. But I imagined through. That we're further along than we probably would have been without. Oh, you're absolutely correct. Short term. Like just from I guess speaking from a technological standpoint. Or from a consumer product standpoint, the Facebook acquisition, we we would be nowhere wherever you are nowhere near where we are right now. Without that. I think I think I've just been thinking a lot of I guess my answer a few weeks ago. It has been like, yes, of course, selling the Facebook was best thing for VR. There's no doubt about it. Because you know, split in just pay three dollars for Oculus. They've also invested two to three billion dollars over the past few years since they've also made other VC's to investing are in other companies. But then you know, I was at this book signing we can half ago. And somebody asked me, you know, they they mentioned how activists Facebook have a new VR headset coming out called quest, which is like the first standalone, six degrees of freedom. All in one solution that you know, it's I think it's four hundred dollars coming out the spring, it's kind of affordable. And then he said, you know, technologically seems like a no brainer, you know, teams it's expensive. But he thought he could afford it. But then he said, but I'm really concerned about Facebook. And the way that they used my information should I headset? And I thought Hm like I don't really have a good answer because I'm concerned about Facebook. And how the user information I also love the are. So you know, from purely technological standpoint, I would buy that headset. But then there are all these other concerns, and I wonder how that will change the growth of VR and the perception of virtual reality. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the man that that topic is so high on everybody's mind now that anything that has Facebook attached to it automatically ends up. Right back to the you would if they do the data seriously. Yeah, they have they haven't proven to be there. You know, given people a lot of good good. You know, feels as far as that's concerned. What would how would you compare pre Facebook Oculus to wear Oculus as a group seems to be right now. Because I mean, you you had a lot of contacts from Oculus, I'm assuming most of them don't work there anymore or I'm not not entirely clear on on. How your access worked, but pretty pretty different mentalities in the teams were they happy or were they were they bombed like the team in general when Facebook swooped along? No. It's a really great question. I think that, you know, in the moment the fact that everyone of the company had equity, so everyone was actually instant millionaire. If they were not already, you know, it's hard to not be excited about that. And it's hard to it's hard to not be excited about what Facebook initially kind of promised. Switch was the same thing that they the same way that they acquired a up an Instagram where it was almost like like you could almost think about their investment as like a series. See like like, you know, like, yes, we are buying you. But we're gonna let you remain completely tournaments where basically just the financial resources to you were gonna have Bill. We're going to let you do your thing keeping your thing. So it's hard to not be psyched about that. When it happens though, that does change. I'm that's why says. Inherently that changes. And so coming to terms that is a big deal. But, but I was I was telling my wife the other day that I got that access in February of twenty teen and that lasted for about two and a half years..
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"When when you allow a company like Facebook to to hand over those buckets full of money your way for the technology that you created that's a risk that you take and have imagined. That was a hard hard decision for him to make. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, again, obviously mad been one of my favorite shows is bracing for how to tell the story. But that quote, the front of the book is to me Silicon Valley in a nutshell where Peggy Olson says, Don, Draper, you never say. Thank you. And he responds says, that's what the money is for. And so, you know, there's always all these hugs handshakes and smiles about how we're gonna do this thing together. And then at some point along the way things don't work out for whatever reason. And you know, often if there's a financial transaction involve seems to absolve the party that you know, is being is seeming to hurt the one or not appreciate the other one. But yeah. In terms of like, how hard it was one of the things that was very interesting with this book, and very helpful to me. Although it was a lot more work. But I love doing this work was like, you know, with counselors being a story that happened twenty to twenty five years ago there were so few remaining archival documents though, I was able to get more than I would have expected. But like, you know, there's all. No, Email back then. So so, you know, I sort of realized early on that where you know council or even bad men like these are stories largely about meetings between people and and encounters those happened in boardrooms and nowadays a lot of those meetings happen by Email or happened on web forums, and that's sort of a long way of saying that. Memory can be faulty or people have incentives to remember things differently. And maybe that was the case in in counselors. But that's at least, you know, why you try to confirm with multiple sources. But with this book, it was so different. Because like you said Palmer was on his web forum from two thousand nine hundred and twelve so there's thousands of messages in their thousands of posts that I've read through. And I I also went through I think twenty five thousand internal documents mostly emails, and so I have you know, I have a very good sense for what people were actually feeling at the time. And so when you ask about, you know, that existential decision of selling your company, it's interesting to go back to something that I don't even think it's mentioned in the book. But. In round twenty twelve after John carmax shows Palmer's prototype at e three and there's all this excitement around the Oculus rift and Palmerston virtual reality somebody on met species three d for him that he used to post on asked like, you know, like, oh, we thought you were selling out or thought you were going to sell out, and he said something to the effect of that he would never sell his product or his company in less. It was for the best VR. And and I mentioned all that to say that, you know, I don't I don't think that these guys all realize what they were getting into the sale to Facebook. But but more importantly, I think that even if you ask all of them today, even people like Brendon who's who's along the company either or Michael antonoff who still with Oculus, but he is he's a co founder of Oculus, but he's not actually he's he's still a Facebook is no longer extract. You know, I think if you ask these people, and I did most recently asked my mouth because he was the one is supposed to Oakley. Ghencea Facebook deal, Cuba, Greg doing this. And none of them. I would say that they do because they all think that the acquisition was the best thing to happen to VR, which I think is really interesting subject to debate. Because I don't know if that's true or not. But it definitely spurred a lot of investment. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And VR being new technology. It requires a lot of investment and cry criers a lot of money to build up that technology, and what better way to do that than than join link your technology or VR system with the company that probably has the most money to throw at it think history..
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"And so a lot of people over the past couple of years heirs have have suggested to me that his decisions for the result of him being immature. And maybe that's, but I also think that after speaking with Palmer almost every day for three years and pumping knowing him better than almost anyone in the world that I think that's just Palmer. I think the twenty years from now he's gonna be the same way for better or worse. I sort of came to realize that he he to me is like the adult version. Of Kevin McAllister from home alone. Dislike boy, very boyish voice personality that is that is, you know, charismatic to the point of arrogance and some ways is kind of arrogant, but still somehow charming always very resourceful liking to build stuff, and you know, to send his home and all that. So so I say all that because of what I thought to say next in terms of like was he prepared for what he was basically about to get himself into. And I think that the answer is is is yes as much as anyone could be like, I think that he was as prepared as a forty year old. But but I don't think anyone. Until they do it for the second time. Maybe I don't think anyone is really prepared for what happens when you sell your baby. When you tell your company. Especially because you know. In almost every case leads to your sale is is like a mutual interest in seemingly shared vision with the acquirer. And so you sort of feel like, oh, we're all on the same page. Here is all gonna work out. And talking to other people in the book, you know, whether it's like, Paul bittner, Brendan are- who is, you know, Palmer's co founder and CEO like it just never ends up that way, you know. It's just you know, I I hope that entrepreneurs with other company do do end up happy. I'm not going to say it's impossible. But it does seem to be a very universal thing of what happens when you sell your company, and you lose control. And so I don't think I think he was as prepared as anyone could be for that. But I think it's just something you can't really be prepared for. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you know, to to certain degree he was he was lucky to have advocates light karma in rebe in his corner. You know, they they were able to help him through. I mean when the largest one of the largest companies in the world comes along and offers, you literally billions of dollars.
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"How did this get made is to sort of try to identify which producers which participants in a project are the reason why it happened like like like if not for them there would be no project, and that's largely I think what appealed to me about Oculus like whether or not VR is in a trough of disillusionment right now, or whether you know, looking back on where we were eight years ago with, you know, we're an incredible place with your that's matter perspective. But I do think it's sort of objectively possible to say that if not for Oculus if not for Palmer if not for John karmic, reaching out to Paul armor. We wouldn't be anywhere like this. And and and that's what passes me narrative -ly, I think sometimes you know, that might then make people think that I don't you know, that what the other companies have done like Sony, and HEC fouled and all these other. That I don't tell you those contributions. And obviously, I do I just like to sort of look at the originator I like to tell origin construct, and so you know, like like you said Palmer Palmer starting in two thousand nine and then for the next three years was I living in the garage and living in a trailer and just building these prototypes. And it's so hard to imagine though, I tried by best to depict to the for shop. And so hard to imagine what it was like back, then for Palmer to be working on this thing that everyone thought was the stupidest thing in the world, you know, even even his parents, and his parents are, you know, from by perspective, like they're very good supportive. Parents loving parents. But they wanted their son to like get a real job. We're we're technology that might actually lead to a real job. And and you have Palmer obsessed with this thing that like you said everyone thought died in the ninety s and I think that's really I find that admirable. But at the least I think it's fascinating that someone would obsess over something that few people. Seem to care about the little did we know that you know, his goal was to make all of us care about it. And how successful he ended up being in that regard. Well, maybe that wasn't even his goal in the beginning. I mean, you know, I was a teenager after all so, you know, I remember being a teenager being very obsessed about certain things video games music, whatever. And so you know, that that would drive you to certain places, of course, he started collecting VR kind of headsets and stuff and his passion just became more and more cultivated around that and that kind of led to to where he was. And then of course, you know, he meets car MAC, all you know, big business, essentially at some point starts can become very aware of what what Palmer's doing with rift. Do you think Palmer was was equipped at that point to to handle? I mean, the here he's he's I think he's no longer a teenager by the time, you know, he's probably like twenty or twenty one by the time. Big businesses say, hey, we like what you're. Doing here was the equipped to kind of enter into this new new realms new world with his hardware and his passion as a really good question. And and there's sort of two points. I wanna hit on there one is that because of what happens later in the book or with Palmer ended up getting fired because of his personality, which is very very much larger than life. You know, he's not afraid to dress up in a bikini to, you know, in a cost play at comic con, you know, basically attend these festivals going to Japan and dressing up into the bikini for cost play. You know, he's very opinionated..
"blake harris" Discussed on Triangulation
"You know, prior to council were is the only person who really read my work with my parents, and my girlfriend or sometimes my brother, but this was going to be. For wider audience. But, but it was me thinking about my parents, my girlfriend, and especially my grandmother, you know, I always think of my grandma when I write I wanna make sure that a what? What I'm writing even if it's a high tech story about virtual reality or video game consoles that that it could still appeal to my grandma, and maybe maybe not always successful in that. But I think that's just a good barometer to to try to figure out how to tell the story in a way that a total layperson could Pri she ate and with both these books, you know, the solution from my perspective has been to make it very character driven stories and to really grounded in these people their ideas on the relationships with one another. Yeah. And I think he did a fantastic job in in both books doing that. Right. Like, they're entertaining. Reads, even you know at the same time learning a lot about the history, and I truly believe personally. But as far as creativity is concerned make what you wanna see right. Like if this is right. If this speaks to your heart, then that's the right way to go and people will guarantee guaranteed people are going to connect to it. Maybe not everybody. They wanted a different kind of book, but these people, absolutely. And I think it just makes for either. Even more entertaining engaging reading, obviously, it makes it more accessible to a wider range of people. So yeah, no. I mean, even going back to you know, you said that I was lucky to sort of realize that you know, how much passion how much part of the process passionate would be into into you know, decide to go work towards a passion route that a commercial route. What say that, you know at the point. Now, I've been interviewing for the course of the past ten years or eight years, and there's obviously no formula for success one-size-fits-all formula. But what other I'm talking to people like Mel Brooks, or or athletes or tech people. It does seem to be that. A lot of people have stories like mine where they were trying to sting trying to make it as an actor director, whatever musician, then when they sort of tried to stop being what they thought they were supposed to be and just kind of did the project that was for passion that maybe they didn't expect a money on a lot of times that is what ends up breaking through. And there really is something to that to letting the passion drive you and also to what you're saying, you know, to basically write the kind of book that I want to read myself, which from my perspective was like like, I love Ben metrics books. But there's a reason that might books are twice the size of his, and it's because I always wished that like when he's talking about, you know, Zuckerberg and the starting Facebook and the accidental billionaires I wish that there was like two pages about my space and friendster, and and basically what else had been going on in the film community. And so I want my books to have more of that context. But obviously I love his and they were big inspiration. Yeah. And it made no bones about it. This looks like a thick book. That's because it is. It's nearly five hundred pages which is which is like I which makes you happy, especially when you realize that it's that it's a good book at his five hundred pages. It's the kind that you burn through pretty quickly. So well, we're gonna talk about what's actually in the book. I love talking about process. I love talking about kind of what it takes to make and create and all that kind of stuff. We're gonna talk a little bit about the topics inside largely that is Oculus. Facebook's Palmer lucky will dive into that in a second. But first, let's take a break we need to thank the sponsor of this episode. And then we'll do that this episode of triangulation is brought to you by capterra. We've all read surprising online reviews. I'm sure you have before whether you're trying to get sweet deal on something the been saving for your trying to find the best happy hour in town..
Oculus was supposed to bring virtual reality to the masses. What happened?
"This. Marketplace podcast is brought to you by wigs N a premier platform bringing private markets to the public get access to tech unicorns like Uber. Airbnb and more sign up for free today at equities N dot com slash tech. And by send pro from Pitney Bowes, send pro online software makes it easy to save time and money print shipping, labels and stamps, right? From your desk and access discounted rates. Try it free for thirty days and get a free ten pound scale when you visit PB dot com slash tech. That's BB dot com slash tech. Oculus was supposed to bring virtual reality to everyone by now what happened from American public media. This is marketplace tech demystifying the digital economy. I'm Molly would. Virtual reality is the technology that beeps on promising in about the last decade. The promise has seemed so much closer, especially when Oculus came along looking like such a game changer that Facebook dropped two billion dollars on it. In two thousand fourteen Blake Harris is the author of the history of the future Oculus, Facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality. And his book is really two stories. I is the story of how Oculus and all of ritual. Reality tech has kind of stalled and second is the role that Facebook played in that stall. I I asked Harris where Oculus sits right now, they're in the top two in an industry of too. So that's commendable at least there in the industry. But, but certainly not where they expected to be, you know, as part of my research, I ended up spending three and a half years researching reporting this book, and I was actually going over an Email from Mark Mark Zuckerberg to the Oculus CEO, Brendan rebe from a month or two before they choir them, and Mark was saying that he. Estimated there would be fifty to one hundred million VR headsets about five years from that. And so we're almost at the five year, Mark. And there certainly are not, you know, there's probably one or two million VR headsets out there. And that's you know, one twentieth. The expectation was. Wow. Well, so then I wonder is it a book about how the having the good technology is not enough. Having the best technology is not always a winning formula expectations is a big part of it and messaging is a big part of it too. And I think the backlash to the acquisition of Oculus by Facebook. It was a good indication of how poorly handled that messaging, and how the VR community felt about Facebook being involved in this thing that you know, all technology is intimate but VR's incredibly intimate. It's it's on your face. It it can track your eye movements. There's cameras in your house. So Facebook be involved in. This was really nervous to a lot of people. Let's stare down that hard reality that the tech maybe is just way harder than anybody gives it credit for and that that it was the ultimately like a lack of of software and a lack of really truly immersive experiences in motion sickness and right. I mean, are you bearish or bullish on virtual reality overall? I'm still more bullish than ever and part of that as emotional, you know, when people take off the virtual reality headset after the first demo, so many people, I know my wife included says, wow, I just saw the future that's the future. And you don't even really know what that means. How do you make a business out of something that we all agree is very cool. But what is the value to that? Is it entertainment is productivity. You know, that that is why you still see Google and Microsoft and apple on these other big tech players still just dipping their toe into virtual reality and augmented reality because there's not really, you know, money to be made there. But also, there's still doubt that it's ever going to be. The future. Blake Harris is the author of the history of the future, which is out now tomorrow, we'll talk more with him about that Facebook acquisition, and how technology aside Oculus core community never really forgave the company, and how Facebook's vision for the future of Biard might have been too much too soon. And now for some related links. The book is of course, also detailed story about the controversial Oculus founder Palmer lucky who got himself embroiled in the politics of the two thousand sixteen presidential election. Two was also sued for half a billion dollars for intellectual property theft related to the creation of his Oculus headsets. Anyway, that guy Palmer lucky has a new company that develops virtual reality and artificial intelligence tech. And it reportedly just got a big contract from the Pentagon to work on that TAC as part of the government's project maven project maven is the only sort of secret initiative to develop better artificial intelligence and image recognition for military drones. It is also, of course, the project that famously caused such outcry among Google employees that the company canceled its Pentagon contract to develop military tack. Palmer lucky is new company has funding support and former employees from Peter Teal's founders fund and his data analytics company Pailin tier? Palate. Here, of course, is a big provider of tech to the defense department and police agencies. I'm Molly would and that's marketplace tech. This is APN. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by Sunpro from Pitney Bowes, San pro online software makes it easy to save time and money, no matter what you ship or mail print shipping, labels and stamps, right? From your desk and access discounted rates. 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"blake harris" Discussed on Rocket
"Fear supports make your next move. My next websites. The book again is the history of the future Oculus Facebook and the revolution that swept virtual reality. It is out now from HarperCollins came out yesterday. And well, okay. This is Wednesday came out on the nineteen the February. And this is like Jay Harris, as we said, I think we're going to transition now into our secret segment thicker Yang has promised and Blake gonna stick with us for this. And then we're gonna have one final final just wrap up session. Let him go home and sleep because just come from a book signing to be on this show are schwinn say there is there's a lot of stuff in there. But the journalists are choices that led to Palmer exiting face fog. I help our listeners will go out re. That chapter because there's a lot of stuff there. And I think there are people that need to answer for some of the things in that chapter. But that's where I'm going to leave it blank. I have a secret segment for you today. You're doing show we're going to game show. This is the game show. I would see if Blake Harris can answer trivia questions about his own book, console wars veterans than Christina Cam. That's amazing. This so embarrassing because. Book really embarrassed this a human computer. Shepherding one day. So okay. So trade idea I. Say the dance that you know, when people say. When the talking to people who often forget things they say you need to write it down three. That's why I wrote the book. But. Let's go. This is Rex cow. Let's go. Okay. It's it your book. Do you wanna go first or second because I have all these questions in order. So I don't think there's any bias with which one I picked once. And do you want to be like us? I I was I was raised to be chivalrous. So I will let the lady go. I all right, Christina, sonic, the hedgehog the creator of sonic, the hedgehog revealed that his design after the contest, basically, create sonic thatch on that contest is Seca to create him his design came from two characters. What were those two characters? They put the head of something body of another thing if it's like roadrunner, and like, Nikki moss. I don't know. Yes. That silence is golden can I steal brianna? No. You can't you. Can't you get? Okay. Okay. We're going to give Christina partial credit for that. Felix the cat. And it was Mickey Mouse. So Christina gets one half a point. Okay. I think it's just again like point six g get an extra point one because I think road on versus to create a Manson I like that. Literally those really good. Okay, blake. When Kalinski Tom Kalin say came forward and unveiled sonic to promoting it. He promoted this game at the mall with the member of the saved by the bell cast. What what which saved by the bell cast member? Sent I would get answer Dustin diamond, that's correct vase Lert rally. Karen, I'm very mad. I didn't get that one. I would have known. I don't see what the Bill pop up restaurant in Los Angeles last week. So yeah. Okay. Okay, christina. Yes. So we all know about like mode seven versus Genesis blast processing, right, but the technical name within the Genesis four blast processing what was that name? It's not blast processing it's something else. I don't know. Re you're being cruel the hard questions. Yes. This. This is really hard roadrunner. I six again, Greg. Yeah. I have I have I have no idea. I mean this. This was the Genesis. This wasn't even part of the the more critic. No now, I'm gonna bench thirty bucks, or whatever I genuinely have no idea. I do not remember are linked to your bunker. I'm so glad. The answers burst boat cells. Okay. I don't think you're gonna get this one Blake. This is a very hard one. Okay. Between nineteen eighty-seven in nineteen ninety two Capcom worked with Disney to release four different video games. Can you name three of them? Nice..
"blake harris" Discussed on WLAC
"Com, you'll find links to the stories that we're talking about today, including some tweets from governor elect Bill Lee's chief of staff blake-harris that reveal a decided anti-trump attitude. These are you could see them for yourself. Don't take my word on this go to Tennessee star dot com, and you can read the tweets that Blake Harrison, Alabama political consultant who's worked with well noted anti-trumpers like Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and and Martha Roby down in Alabama congresswoman who who like Bill has lem pledged that she would not vote for Donald Trump for president just about a month before the election back in October of two thousand sixteen. Well, Blake Jairus was working on those campaigns is worked with those candidates, but his tweets during the run up to election day of of November. Two thousand sixteen show. He is definitely not pro Trump. And yet he's been put in charge by Bill Lee of assembling the administration of running the office of the of the governor in this new administration, and you don't again, don't take my word for it. Read his tweets as he calls. Donald Trump stupid. A loser. Said that he was he was only going to be pretending to be a Republican until after election day. Some might say kind of like Billy's pretending to be a conservative until after he got elected and started picking who was going to serve it as administration. Anyway, go to that that story, Tennessee, star dot com and read the details and more importantly, look at the tweets. So you can see for yourself this chief of staff that Billy is put in charge of his administration and how anti-trump ius thereabouts six tweets. And none of them are good and one of them actually said he's stepping in on election day November. What was the election in November two thousand sixteen embrace? I think. Yeah. And he said undecided as to who I'm going to vote for Yasser Amherst predicting that Hillary would win by two and a half points, by the way, Donald Trump didn't happen that way missed it by that much. Anyway, that's the guy that Billy is selected to to run his his shop. And again, folks need to know the truth. Yeah. I voted for Billy. And like a lot of folks. I'm I'm disappointed that Bill the is showing himself to be what I expected him to be. I thought I thought maybe he meant what he was saying on the campaign. I voted for Billy. And I think you know, you have to say that Bill Lee as governor probably on the ticket probably helped Marcia do better than had any of the other candidate. He won by twenty one point. She went by eleven. Yup. Yup. Yup. But she was pro Trump, and he pretended to be pro-trump even run TV commercials promoting his Trump like qualities, but now he's surrounded himself by anti-trumpers. Anyway, the reason you're not seeing conservatives get appointed by Billy to his administration is because he's surrounded himself with Democrats and never Trumpers, and therefore conservatives and pro-trump persons cannot get through the the block that's being put in place by the Democrats that he surrounded himself with the lobbyists he surrounded himself with and by the by the by the anti-trumpers like Blake Harris here. Here's the challenge. They're not going to let Bill here this sort of thing. So if you're if you're saying, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna call Blake Harrison doctor about that will good. He's not gonna care your collar called Chris Walker. He's the the press secretary. He doesn't care. They're not gonna tell Bill what you're saying. You're going to have to tell Bill and Maria his wife when you run into him at Christmas parties when you run into them at the grocery store, it's going to be harder. Now, they're going to be surrounded by security leaving behind a gated fence around the governor's office. They have their wall. I'm not sure if I mean, I know Blake Blake Harris supported. Easily supported Phil Bredesen's who oppose it opposed the wall opposed the tax cuts. So again, the people that that Lee has surrounded himself with oppose the issues he claims to before. So you're gonna have to call Bill Lee, personally, if you know, if you ever cell number if you an Email you're gonna have to contact him and let him know what the team he's assembled is doing because either he knows which is really disturbing. Or he doesn't know which is still disturbing in either case we're gonna we're gonna talk about that in the next hour. President Trump yesterday signed the farm Bill portion of the budget into law and to celebrate that he he put out a tweet that included video from the two thousand eleven EMMY awards where he saying the Greenacres theme song you've got gotta go to Tennessee star on Facebook. You can actually watch the video. But, but here's Donald Trump, celebrating the signing of the farm Bill..