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"bladensburg" Discussed on WTOP
"In person. Brought to you by Bristol Myers Squibb and Fizer. 2 38 traffic and weather on the AIDS. It's nice out there, Dave Building, it sure is not always in traffic. Lando we have a new crash in Centerville on I 66 color found it. First Police fire rescue Following up from behind. It's westbound beyond 29 Centreville, where we dropped from four lanes to three and as usual, several vehicles lined up in and blocking. Left side westbound on 66 just beyond exit 52 on 3 95 South bound traffic is slow from Shirlington into a work zone before Route seven. King Street should be blocking the right side 95 north out of Quantico. We had the work through blocking the left side. Your mom marker 1 47 heading north bound into Washington on 3 95. No delays near the tunnel ramps eastbound of the Southeast Freeway on the ramp of South East Boulevard at 11 Street. Southeast color found one stopped in Left, traveling, apparently broken down on the ramp. If you're going outbound on the 11th Street Bridge, look for work zone congestion South bound on I 2 95 and North bound volume delays on D C to 95 for the bridge over Pennsylvania Avenue into northeast Outbound New York Avenue through northeast the back up. It's because of Broken down truck beyond Bladensburg Road that was tying up the right travel lane. Beyond that good to go from northeast Washington in the Anacostia toward Annapolis and the Bay Bridge, Little gusty. 25 mile per hour rangers so, but no warnings, no restrictions at the Bay Bridge and no delays heading north on to 70 a free flow of traffic for Montgomery County. Heading into Frederick Slow on route 15. The remains of a crashed after West Patrick Street should by now be on the right shoulder with Allstate. You can really say, Find out just how much you could save today. At Allstate dot com or call an agent to get a quote, Day building, w T O P trap and let's head on over to storm Team for UPDATED forecast from Amelia Drape crazy, too windy conditions out there on this Tuesday with the wind advisory in effect for parts of the region, including the D. C. Metro.
"bladensburg" Discussed on WTOP
"For details ends January 4th 2021 6 48 Cabinet, Whether on the AIDS, let's go to reading Casler in the traffic center. It was more of you get on the area roadways. We're starting to see some delays Start to form just some volume delays. If you're in the district's outbound D. C to 95 from Burrows, making your way past East Capitol Street inbound New York Avenue, starting to get a bit heavier is you're approaching Bladensburg Road. No problems along the Southeast Southwest Freeway. But seeing a little bit of volume in both directions of the Suitland Parkway in the area of Naylor Road, trying to make your way to the metro station, also North bound or inbound on the Suitland Parkway, a little heavy trying to get onto the Douglas Bridge, But your lanes are open and nothing reported in the roadway. Now in Virginia on 66 eastbound the volume after 1 23 Tord Nutley Street within the long term work, So in the way you lose the left side of the roadway, North bound 28, a little slow coming out of Manaus is trying to get into Centerville headed toward New Braddock Road. That also looks to just be a volume delay north about 95 brief volume out of Dale City into Woodbridge. But good crossing the Aga Khan into Springfield on the 3 95 2 and across the 14th Street Bridge. Now in Maryland, we still have the problem in Waldorf, North Bound five matter. Woman Being Town Road is closed at Pine Field Road for the crash. At last check Delays had been back here Substation Road. Not sure if they're going to start diverting you at some point whether all traffic is completely stopped south bound. Also seeing some rubbernecking delays. Decorate your home today at Marlow Furniture. Christmas Super SALE. It's your chance to save 50% off, Plus this week taken extra 10% off and free delivery. I'm Rita Kessler. W T o p traffic. Mike's 10 effort has our Friday forecast looking Yeah, we're looking a little slowly this morning. Snow flurries across the region abandoned light snow coming down Interstate to 70 right now, in between Gaithersburg.
"bladensburg" Discussed on WTOP
"P dot com Search free lunch. Middle of the week on W Seop and 11, 28 traffic and weather on the AIDS. Rob Stallworth in the W. T o p traffic Center. Thanks Mark. Let's start for the update in Northeast Outbound New York Avenue after Bladensburg Road, the tour bus card fire in the service road way, but because every response showed up all outbound lanes at last report were blocked. Now the fire's out for the most part in a single left lane gets you by outbound New York Avenue after Bladensburg. I rode on the interlude in Prince George's County at 2 14 Central Avenue. We had the right side block for the crash their absolute in Virginia near I 95 the Springfield Interchange, getting the first report of a crash on the outer loop. Otherwise, as you head past Van Dorn Street that work zone blocks the right side of the roadway. No problems being reported on 66 outside the Beltway. Inside the Beltway eastbound left Lane gets you by the work zone there. I'll take you to Frederick 15. Both ways near 26 Liberty Town. We did have the crash reported there. Please use caution and follow police direction in order to get around. Otherwise in Gaithersburg, this is South down. 3 55 at after Deer Park Drive Crash reported to be near Central Avenue, so please use caution if you're traveling in that area. Looking for a new home in Northern Virginia. But self scheduled tours, virtual appointments and a new build Your own home tool. Van Meter has made buying easier than ever before. Visit van Meter homes dot com slash move. I'm Rob Stallworth. W T o p. Traffic believe GOP four day forecast with Chuck Bell. North to northwesterly winds today will keep us filled with sunshine, and it'll keep the humidity at bay. At least.
"bladensburg" Discussed on WTOP
"Fits way. W GOP at 11 18. Traffic and weather on the AIDS. Rob Stallworth in the W. T O P Traffic center, updating the situation in northeast out down New York Avenue after Blaine's Burgh Road. It's a tour bus that caught fire uncertain if there were passengers on the bus, however, response is on scene and all outbound lanes in New York Avenue after Bladensburg Road, a blocked for the vehicle fire involving a tour bus in down New York Avenue is rubbernecking past. Dakota Avenue as you head toward Bladensburg Road. Also in the district. This is Eastern Avenue both ways at Minnesota Avenue and Addison Road where we have the report of a crash. Use caution there. Otherwise, no problems on to 95 or I to 95 D. C. Tu 95 between National Harbor in Eastern Avenue for traveling in Prince George's County. This is the loop as you head toward to 14 Central Avenue. Stow the crash. Blocking the right lane at a loop is clear. Leave. In Forestville headed toward green Belt with Lane's available to, you know, problems on I 95 of the Baltimore Washington Parkway between two beltways traveling at this point on Georgia Avenue near Irving Street, getting the first report of a crime is there in the district as well? Traveling back in Maryland, looking pretty good on to 70 no problems being reported otherwise there. I 70 westbound before Westminster exit 76. We had to breathe road that should be gone. Traveling in Virginia on the outer loop. This is past the Springfield interchange. 9 95 headed toward impasse. Van Dorn Street work is set up along the right side. 66 remains a clear ride westbound, leaving the Beltway headed towards Gainesville Eastbound 66 after Washington Boulevard. Left lane gets you by the work zone there. We had the issue South down on 28 near I 66 would debris reported to be a dirt spill along the right side of the roadway. Hopefully, that's been gone and cleaned up. No problems on I 95 so far I 3 95 runs well between that's the road in the 14th Street Bridge with Lane's available. So voters surging and forcing businesses the clothes across the country. Put covert in the rear view mirror where mask and stay 6 ft. Apart on Lee, you can keep Maryland open for business. This message was brought to you by the state of Maryland. I'm Rob Stallworth. W T o p Traffic R w GOP four day forecast now from storm team forced Chuck Bell. Hurricane Laura is likely make landfall on the Gulf Coast late tonight as perhaps a Category.
"bladensburg" Discussed on WTOP
"And Bladensburg road that's where we have the crash colors reporting all outbound lanes completely stopped at Bladensburg road for the rec inbound your lanes are open but you can see everything that's going on so watch for any rubber necking in the area the westbound freeway before the third street tunnel watch for work they're usually along the left side while on the beltway interlude in prince George's county near Allentown reading joint base Andrews a report of a crash inner loop near sixty six was a report of a work zone in Maryland eastbound fifty delays through the toll plaza and getting onto the eastbound span of the bay bridge the left lane of two is blocked with the work the westbound span runs to a traffic on the very nice mac Middleton bridge traffic alternates across the bridge for the work watch for delays to fourteen Central Avenue between Quinn and ridge road in the Patuxent River you're under police direction for the crash and we also had one reported in Bethesda three fifty five a Rockville pike there PUC's hill road vehicle off the roadway into the trees to to near fifty that's a report of a crash you'll also find in Virginia northbound ninety five after six thirty in Stafford the crash along the left side eastbound seven year Carlin springs road that's a report of a crash and on garland springs road between Arlington Boulevard and fifth road south watch for the fire department activity that may have you re directed that's business is the trusted expert for all things business technology with flexible solutions to help you run your business the way that works for you learn more at **** business dot com I read a Kessler WTOP traffic it's a nice day and it'll be pretty warm Lauryn Ricketts has before we've got some amazing weather today temperatures are gonna be rising into the low eighties plenty of sunshine low humidity.
Washington, DC officer in critical condition after being struck by Metrobus
"New this morning we've learned a DC police officer is in critical condition after being hit by a metro bus this happened shortly before eleven o'clock last night on Bladensburg road northeast near Benning road it's not clear what led to the crash DC police say the officer was chasing after someone when he was hit the officer was taken to a hospital where he remains in critical condition we'll bring you more information as we
A brief history of presidents visiting troops in combat
"The only civil war battle that took place in Washington the battle of Fort Stevens President Abraham Lincoln gotten his carriage one evening and made an extra ordinary request he wanted to go see the fighting nobody of course not this was a very good idea but Lincoln did and off he went Lincoln wanted to support the Union troops he wanted to see the situation with his own eyes and he very nearly got himself killed as Brown's zipped over his top hat young officers shouted get down you fool. Lincoln Secretary of war Edwin Stanton was so worried about his boss that he ordered silence to evacuate winking was not happy he said I thought I was commander in chief Lincoln was not the first president to step foot on an American battlefield president James Madison was at the battle of Bladensburg during the war eighteen twelve but Lincoln's visit is often cited by historians in recounting the importance of presidents visiting troops in or near war zones to better grasp conditions to reverse public doubts into signal to both US and enemy forces the country took war efforts seriously veterans have split on the value of such visits with some suggesting that these so-called dog and pony show IOS obscure the realities of war and drain military resources to keep the president safe true or not these visits provide lasting symbolic images of presidents as commanders in war military as well as all the requirements team allied commander in Europe during World War Two Eisenhower made a bold campaign promise days before he won the nineteen fifty two presidential election I shall go to Korea our said the conflict there was spinning out of Control and Eisenhower promised to review reflieffactor military political and psychological to be mobilized in speeding a just peace eisenhower made good on his promise the next month as president elect he visited commanders and surveyed Chinese North Korean positions from spotter aircraft dressed in a thick parka. Eisenhower squatted on an ammunition crate and ate lunch shoulder to shoulder with soldiers photos of Eisenhower there were symbolically important showing him as a hands on leader but the visit had important policy implications to confirming Eisenhower's belief that the war had become a stalemate Eisenhower brokered an armistice later that July and set after that we could not stand forever on a static front and continued to accept casualties without any visible results according to historian Michael Beschloss and his new book presidents of war speedy and reliable air travel after the nine I'm too blunt negative public opinion Johnson stood in a jeep at Cameron Bay choked up Johnson told his troops I could not begin to thank every man in Vietnam for what is doing
US Supreme Court rules WW1 cross can remain on state land
"It a seven to opinion. The supreme court rules of World War, One piece cross memorial can stay on public land in Maryland. The Bladensburg cross has been on the property, honoring veterans for almost one hundred years, Justice Ruth, Bader, Ginsburg, and Justice Sonia sodomise, or the two dissenting votes. This is USA radio
"bladensburg" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Old Bladensburg piece crosses a Christian symbol that violates separation of church and state, not a religious symbol at all Jesus. And the twelve apostles are non it the forty nine members of Prince George's county who died and row a one. They're the ones on it. Let's go with the American civil rights union, which filed an amicus brief with the supreme court supporting the cross she told morning on the mall opponents are small targets and just like with any other political movement. They're going to start picking bigger targets. If they went on the smaller ones the court heard arguments on the cross today. A ruling is due in June. John Matthews on Ellen WFAN dot com. A coastguard officer accused of being a white supremacist who compiled a list of prominent Democrats has been indicted on firearms and drug charges who compiled a hit list of prominent Democrats has been indicted on firearms and drug charges. Prosecutors say a federal grand jury on Wednesday died. Forty nine year old Christopher Paul Hasunah on charges of unlawful possession of a firearm. Silencer possession of firearms by drug addict and unlawful user in possession of a controlled substance has an has been detained since federal agents. Arrested him February sixteenth unrelated charges LGBTQ Kins in staff at Loudon county, public schools, be protected by the schools anti-discrimination policy. The Loudon county school board voted five to four to include gender identity and sexual orientation in the schools anti-discrimination policy. Fourth grader, Maggie to Ronan told the board a lot of people are locked in a show not knowing what to come out show. Give us your support. So urge BT can come out Katherine telexes, everyone should reach out to the community with Christian kindness by to close our eyes and say that other people must be in situations. That are making them uncomfortable is wrong had recurred WMA Allen, WFAN dot com. Wwl.
"bladensburg" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Bladensburg, Maryland, violates the establishment clause. Jeremy dies deputy counsel at first liberty institute was that the supreme court today. And he tells Salem radio news an adverse ruling against the cross could create chaos across the country. The court does not rule in that right direction. Here. Not only does the Bladensburg World War. One memorial stand to be cut to the ground. But so do memorials across the country starting in Arlington National Cemetery with the are cross and the Canadian cross the sacrifice, and and so many others like that it should not take five years of litigation and a four volume appendix to determine whether or not a Veterans Memorial is constitutional. The memorial stands on a grassy. Highway median Bladensburg, Maryland, just outside Washington and explosive day of public testimony from President Trump's former attorney Ohio's Jim Jordan lashing out at test. Monte from Michael Cohen, certainly it's the first time a convicted perjurer has been brought back to be a star witness in a hearing Cohen telling members of the house oversight committee, his blind loyalty to President Trump has cost him everything family's happiness friendships. My law license, my company, my livelihood. My honor my reputation and soon my free Maryland's logic Cummings echoing a lot of frustration. We have got to get back to normal with that. This meeting is adjourned Cohen facing another day of closed-door testimony before the house intelligence committee, Capitol Hill. Correspondent Wally Hindes reporting. Nuclear armed rivals India and Pakistan face their worst tension in years over the disputed region of Kashmir with Islamabad saying they shot down two Indian warplanes Wednesday and captured two pilots Pakistan immediately shut down at civilian airspace. In response a ball street and mixed as the Dow was down by seventy three points..
"bladensburg" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Good morning. It's seven oh seven here mornings on the mall. Joining us in half an hour, some thirty five it's Newt Gingrich with news of the day and news of his new podcast and it oh five Bruce Klingner. They their Heritage Foundation. His analysis of North Korea and the summit that is going on right now in Vietnam, Mary Walter colony well, good morning. The Bladensburg piece. Cross the center of a very important supreme court case. Big arguments on that. So we're going to go to carry to Las goes, a fellow at the American civil rights union, nonpartisan nonprofit, public policy organization dedicated to protecting constitutional liberty the ACLU as it's known has filed amicus briefs in support of keeping that Bladensburg cross designed, of course to honor war veterans forty nine of them in Bladensburg, Maryland who died in World War One. Now. It's fate is up to the supreme court. Carey joins us now. Carry good morning. Good morning. How are you today? Excellent. And how are you today? And what are you looking forward to bam? I'm looking forward to the argument at the supreme court today and defense of the Bladensburg cross which has been sitting there minding its own business for about one hundred years until the atheist decided they needed to tear it down as you mentioned the cases in Francisco today, and we filed a brief arguing a that the atheists don't have any standing. To bring the case fourth is saying that you're fended when you drive by doesn't quite meet illegal standard. And also they're saying that it breaks the establishment clause of the first amendment and we completely disagree with that. So what's the counterargument? They say it, violates church and state to have this cross up there. What's the counter to that? Counter argument. Is it starts in nineteen seventeen. When a gentleman named William Redmond was killed in World War One and his body didn't come back and his mother wanted a place to honor him and bury him per se and also honor forty nine other members of World War One who Noricum embassy died. So they came up with this cross and the land was donated by a private individual and the community agreed that the symbol of the time was across for these people. So here we are in two thousand fourteen the American humanist association, which is really atheist humanist is a nicer word. So they use that one decided that it breaks, you establishment causes his government can't establish religion. But that doesn't it doesn't apply to the cross because the cross was not established by the government. It was established by the people Bladensburg. It's not a religious symbol at all. I'm jay. Purpose, and the twelve apostles are not at the forty nine. Members of Prince George's county who died in row a one. They're the ones on it. And it doesn't commemorate religion in any way in the American Legion. Which takes care of it is not a religious organization. So it really this is rather an excuse rather than a reason. And we're really hoping that the supreme court sees it that way to why isn't it? I don't understand why you say, it's not religious. I mean, what does it matter if it is religious? Well, it doesn't really for the sake of this argument, you know, for for legal proceedings with the establishment clause. You know, you have to go into that area. But you're absolutely right, then because really all military monuments reflect the culture and ethos and the time in which they were created and at this time in one thousand nine hundred eighteen the the community decided it was across and all the people come in and commemorated on. It are arguably we're Christian men as well. But it really doesn't matter and the chief atheist who is in charge of this case for that particular group was was interviewed a couple of weeks ago by a. A woman who started an organization called save the cross, and he said some incredible things his name is Fred Edwards? And one of the things he said was that he was offended every time he drove by. So in our in our argument in the AC, are you brief one of our things is kind of don't look at it. You drive somewhere else. Don't don't look at it. And the other thing is he admitted when asked that he couldn't name even one single one of the forty nine men on the cross and that really kinda horrified all of us. He doesn't even know the story. He doesn't know about MRs Redmond and William Redmond and the forty nine other gold star families that created this cross. And then he also noted that the American humanist association is a voice for the voiceless. And then that's even worse because like, which voiceless you picking and choosing your voices. You know, these these gentlemen, all died for your freedom. So that you can stand in front of this cross and try to nullify totally you know, in five the supreme court upheld. The ten commandments monument on the grounds of the Texas State capitol, but they also struck down at ten commandments display in a Kentucky courthouse. So they seem to have gone both ways on this based on prior rulings. Where do you think this is going to go based on prior rulings? I think we're gonna be okay. And based on the the court at this point, which is really a constitutionalists court. Thank you, Donald Trump. I think is going to look particularly at the two issues issues. I mentioned one standing which is is there a real harm there. Is there a concrete as the supreme court has decided in the past? Is there a concrete offence being committed by this cross crossing the answer's no? And the other to the other argument again, you know, the first amendment is it really defying the establishment clause. It is not. And we're really hopeful that the supreme court will see it that way as well. You know, Clarence Thomas has mentioned just what you said Mary that there's been some. Confusion. And so that's one of the reasons why this case is so critically important is because I think this is going to be the case that is going to establish the precedent going forward and a lot of people watching this case one of their questions is what next Arlington cemetery. You know, the crosses and stars of David and the crescent center on those monuments are those all bad, you know, so this this is a really a key case. And I think we're very fortunate that it's come up in sort of in this stoldas time that it has has has anyone challenged the crosses in Arlington. Not yet. So do you want to empower the humanist to do? So because they don't really care. I I always kind of chuckled to myself, even though it's not really funny. You know, the ATF say there is no God. And yet they spend all of their time and all of their treasure and all their resources trying to get him out of the public square. So why are you arguing so vehemently against something that you don't believe exists and they're picking targets and they're picking small targets and just like with any other political movement? They're going to start picking bigger targeted targets. If they went on the smaller ones. I want you know, I wonder if the government actively removing expressions of religion is violation of the establishment clause. That's a really good argument. Do you wanna you could maybe go to the supreme court and make it out today? I think that's a perfect example of why this is really wrong because the whole notion of the establishment clause is to give us as American citizens, the freedom of religious expression, and these organizations really turn that completely on its head. Yeah. For instance. I mean, just I'm just looking at the text congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. You had a group of private citizens who build across in Bladensburg the government assumes ownership of the land. And now the government may very well decide to compel Bladensburg to tear down that cross. It does kind of seem like the government would be violating the that clause the establishment clause. I would agree, and I would agree that the appellate court in Maryland that decided that it was. As a religious symbol and should be torn down. It did violate that. And you know, you have you have legislatures and you have the town council, and you have all the politicians in Maryland where this cross lives who loved this cross. And it doesn't matter. You know, there's plaque people in white people and Christians and Jews an atheist who also are okay with across. And yet you have the small, you know, politically active group of humanity has decided that they're just gonna take it on and because they don't get anywhere in the legislatures. They go to the courts, and it's a big court case. And I really hope it comes out on the right side on your side carrots, Alaska. Thank you very much. Appreciate this morning. Thank you Marian Vince seven fifteen.
"bladensburg" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"I'm Rachel Martin. And I'm Steve Inskeep. A giant concrete cross standing in the middle of a busy. Median strip is a symbol at the center of a constitutional fight. It's a fight over the concept of separation of church and state the founding fathers included in the first amendment of ban on the government establishment of religion. So what counts as an establishment of religion today? The US supreme court takes up that issue. Here's NPR's legal. Affairs correspondent Nina totenberg one hundred years ago bereaved mothers in Bladensburg, Maryland decided to build a World War One memorial to honor their fallen sons when they ran out of money the American Legion took over the project, but roughly a decade later the county took over the war memorial. And it's maintenance today it sits at a busy five way intersection. Now, listen to how lawyers in the case describe it. Michael Carvin represents the American Legion. It evokes the cemeteries in Europe that became a universally acknowledged symbol of the World War One dead because of the European graveyards. Neil Caccia represents the Maryland parks and planning commission that maintains the concrete cross the first thing you notice when you see the cross is these four words at the base of the monument, valor, endurance, courage devotion. I mean, that's silly Monica Miller is senior counsel for the American humanist association. Which is challenging the cross. That's a giant four foot Latin cross. There's no other meaning to the line cross other than Christianity at the ceremony. They underscored this fact by calling it a Calvary cross by voting. This message is Christ. Fred edwards. I saw the cross years ago. I happened to be driving through Bladensburg. And there it was. And it blatantly looked like it was on government land. I mean, it was on a highway median, and I thought what is that doing there? He and the humanist association asked the Maryland parks commission to move across to a private location and to stop using taxpayer money to maintain it the parks commission said no and a federal appeals court ruled that the cross should be moved that upset some of the descendants of the forty nine men whose names are on the memorial. Alverga Guidon never knew her uncle. But as a child she used to talk to the photo of her. Uncle that. Her mother kept in the living room. I feel is history and the younger generation should know what has happened. And when they start taking down things, they miss all of this. So I'm very sad about that that won't happen until and unless the supreme court says so the odds are that the court will allow the cross to stand. The question is what the court's opinion will say about the future, and even the lawyers defending the cross don't agree on what the standards should be the parks commissions Caccia will tell the justices that they don't have to break new legal grand. Because this is an easy case. The law has never been that a government agency cannot display a religious symbol, indeed US dollar bills say in God, we trust their our prayers at the opening of legislative sessions even the supreme court chamber itself is adorned by a freeze of Moses hole. The ten commandments though. Only commandments six through ten the ones considered. Most secular are visible only. Uh-huh. Oh, not to mention the invocation of God. As the supreme court opens each public session, God baby United States and this honorable court. That however is not the argument the American Legion. And the Trump administration are making they want a sharp break with the many decisions of the past fifty years for most of that time the court has used a variety of tests is the purpose of the contested symbol or program religious or not does it entangle government with religion does the government's action appear to endorse religion. But conservatives on and off the supreme court have been pushing something called the coercion test, the idea being that public expressions of religion or taxpayer support for religious entities are constitutional unless they coerce religious minorities into believing something that's against their principles today. The American legion's carbon will tell the justices the tests should be whether. A religious minority has been tangibly hurt. So religious speeches. Presumptively valid except in the rare cases where it constitutes proselytisation anything else. He maintains would mean a hostility to religion and discrimination against religion. Monica Miller of the American humanist association. It's scary. I think their real motive is they want pears back in school. I think they want bible readings as long as it's optional funding to parochial schools. I'm sure that's one of the motivating factors. We drove out to the cross to see for ourselves..
"bladensburg" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Assign off from a judge is not an undue burden and you know, that's to me if you replaced, you know, I think that that's a pretty pretty a direct analogy to to what I'm concerned is going to happen in this case to to a pretty clear standard of law. So. All right. Well, we've got to move on to our next segment in which we see how. See how activists Clarence Thomas wants to be had one beer at the party and had beers with and having severe with friends for just a meet up and have some beers drinking beer gladly do. I like for that like beer. I don't know. If you like your Senator or what do you like to direct one is center? What do you have any drank, beer, and and soul? Do so whatever. Yeah. Okay. Andrew a lot of people ask about this. Wow. What's happening here is? This is scary. As it sounded Clarence Thomas wants to overturn decades of libel law precedent yet. It's it's as bad as as everyone says it is. And then some because this is a currying in the context of the Bill Cosby allegations, which. Win your Clarence Thomas. I might think that you would otherwise want to stay clear of that entire area, but prepare he doesn't and is I think it's it's kind of not hard to read between the lines here. So so here's what happened Catherine may Mckee sued Bill Cosby because in twenty fourteen she accused Bill Cosby of having forcibly raped her her Cosby's attorney than responded on his behalf and wrote a letter that according to Mckee quote deliberately distorts her personal background to damage reputation, for truthfulness and honesty and further to embarrass harass humiliate intimidate and shame her and of quote, and that letter was leaked and became public Mckee, then filed a lawsuit in federal court for defamation. And Bill Cosby moved to dismiss and the the trial court as affirmed by the first circuit affirmed that dismissal and said under the New York Times versus Sullivan standard Mckee was part of a public controversy over the quote, sexual assault, allegations, implicating Cosby and was there for a limited purpose public figure and under the New York Times of Sullivan standard, which we've talked about on the show a lot limited purpose public figures are held to the same standard that a general purpose public figure is in in that area. Right. So for example, Thomas UN, I qualify kind of surprising, maybe, but you, and I are general purpose public figures. So if if somebody wants to liable we made it to the general purpose level, I think we have. We we we are, you know, posts of an awfully popular, you know, internet podcast internet radio show. I I certainly think somebody could argue that we were a general purpose public figure. But even if we weren't right, even if this show were a tiny show with a limited audience, you could certainly argue that we are limited purpose public figures in.
"bladensburg" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"It's clear that when they said devotion. It was meant to be a reference to devotion to a Christian God. No that I I I'm doing my best to make the the the devil's advocacy arts down. That's that's that's a tough one. I it is there anything else. I mean, one of the things, you know, we've had interest idol on from from Morella and foundation, and and one of the things that Andrew, and I have talked about on a number of occasions in these kinds of cases is the the sort of repackaging rewriting of the facts at the supreme court level that that sometimes goes on. And are there any other sort of efforts to re characterize what this giant cross is? You know in the middle of busy intersection in Prince, George's county, Maryland like is there anything else where you see where we're, you know, you're kind of watching efforts to rewrite history take place before your eyes. And and it's worth. You know, sort of clarifying. No, that's not those aren't the facts. Yeah. I think one of those things is that there's some sentiment that the cross serves as a tombstone for those families whose war dead were buried overseas. And while that's an absolutely heartbreaking position. Frankly from a military family end. I completely understand the devastation that comes with losing a loved one to war. This isn't that case? And in fact, we fully support an effort to memorialize all veterans. And in fact, this cross was rededicated in nineteen eighty five to honour quoting from the city here all veterans of all wars. There's just no way that a Christian cross can do that. We're really trying to find something that can on our veterans of all wars. But I think this idea that it's tombstone or a grave marker is really a a misconception. There's no-one buried near that cross. It's an intersection. In fact, it's one of the busiest intersections in the county. It's it's really just disruptive. And would be frankly, a terrible tombstone. So I think that's one concern. I think another concern is that just this idea that Christian symbol, can you know, legitimately represent everyone. We know that it can't Ray we've spoken to so many veterans so many veterans have reached out to us whether they're non nonreligious from a minority religion or even Christian who've reached out to as just said like, I we haven't especially compelling story. Actually from one of our one of our good friends who has reached out to us and said, I'm a Christian. I'm very devout. But I served in the military for my country. I didn't serve in the military for my religion. And when I die I want the government to recognize my service, and I want my family to recognize my religion. And I think that that's just such an impactful point of view, right? Like, these people served with people from from minority faiths and no faith. And this memorial is frankly disrespectful to that service. So I completely agree with that. What does the American humanist association? What what do you want done with the cross? Right. I mean, do you want you want it torn down or, you know, do we wanna hang a couple of other religious symbols on it? Like, what do you want to do? So I think that idea putting other religious symbols near it is really not a realistic option. The cross is so big that it would be near impossible for any symbol to match the sort of towering presence. That's let's get a fifty foot Islam a crescent and a hundred foot high star of David, and, you know, be like that persona the Simpsons where all the billboards. Sorry. Anyway, I didn't mean to interrupt for Easter. More than that. There's just not that much space. Right. It's a highway intersection. There's not a whole lot of space there. It's really challenging even to get to the cross to to view it and look at the plaque..
"bladensburg" Discussed on We The People
"But I do think that just consistent with all the other stablishment 'cause cases I think the most likely outcome will be something narrow that, you know, won't necessa-. -sarily apply outside of the religious display setting might not even apply to other crosses. So we'll just have to you know, present our arguments in see how how the courts will. Thank you so much for that. Well, it is time for closing arguments in this wonderful and eliminating discussion and Ken the first one is to you. And the question is the obvious one. Do you believe that the blend bird piece cross violates the establishment clause of the first amendment, and why should the we we the people listeners care about this case, Jeff the blame spur World War? One Veterans Memorial is completely consistent with the US constitution under any of the tests that the US supreme court has applied over the years in terms of what sort of line amount to an establishment of religion in violation of the first amendment. Whether it is the history and coercion standard that the court recess. Brought to the fore in in town of Greece for Galloway, which we believe is the correct decision or if it is the approach that the court used in van Perry in two thousand five or even the lemon test either the original lemon from nineteen seventy one works endorsement test variation reasonable observer tests from nineteen eighty nine under any of those approaches a we would agree that as the district court judge said in this case under any of those tests, this is fully consistent with the establishment clause in. I don't believe this is a close case either. I believe a solid majority of the court will conclude that almost century old, passive war memorial. Indistinguishable in critical regards from countless other war memorials both here in the US. And around the world are fully consistent with the establishment clause that the constitution permits of the honoring of those who have given their lives in defense of this country. Thank you so much for that Monica last word to you. Do you believe that the blatant bird piece cross violates these times from clause of the first amendment? And why should we the people listeners care about this case? Sure, the lanes cross the forty foot Latin cross that towers over the busiest intersection in Prince George's county, clearly violates the establishment clause. I would argue under any of the tests that the court has applied to date. Not includes Justice Briars concurrence in Van Orden. It's dominating its surroundings. There's no other cross that's like this at we're aware of the Arlington. Crosses are in the context of cemetery. They're smaller. They're not by any means the dominant displays in that context. And they're surrounded by religious symbols representing individual soldiers of many, different faiths. Whereas here Christianity is singularly exclusively represented an that's backed by like, I said over a hundred thousand dollars in government funds, and which potentially can be, you know, another one hundred thousand dollars just to restore it. So I think that the supreme court will look at this. You know, not just as a benign or historic. Display, but one that is potent sectarian that doesn't represent everyone. And I think that's really the core principle here is the government's neutrality with respect to religion. And whether this giant Christian cross is consistent with the government's requirement that it maintained a neutral stance when it comes to religious matter. So for that reason, I do think it would violate the establishment clause. Thank you, so much Monica Miller and Ken count sqi for an illuminated educational end. Deep discussion of this crucially important first amendment case. Thank you for spreading light about the meaning of the establishment clause, and helping our listeners make up their mind about the central meaning of religious, freedom and the constitution. Ken monica. Thank you so much for joining. Thanks so much, Jeff. Yes. Thank you..
"bladensburg" Discussed on We The People
"Unlike something, that's, you know, a quintessential in the preeminence Christianity, which is across and into the point about Jewish soldiers using the cross it's it's I'm not familiar with very that. You know, that may be an exception. But the Jewish welfare board was a staunch oppose her of using crosses in overseas. Graves actually testify before congress saying was very deeply offensive that some Jewish soldiers graves were being used with crosses and not stars. David and the Jewish war. Veterans organization has been the plaintiff in many of these cross lawsuits seeking to remove federal crosses as memorials on the basis that they don't represent them. So the general consensus amongst. Jews non-christian groups is that the crosses not Representative does not honor or memorialize them in. Anyway. Thank you so much for that. Can help us understand how the supreme court may approach these conflicting tests justices Thomas and Gorsuch, have noted the disagreement among the circuits on the question of whether particular religious symbol would. How would be perceived by a reasonable observer Justice Thomas says it's entirely unpredictable whether given courtside pathetic loser ver- will be any beholder or the average beholder and the circuits of disagreed as well the tenth and fourth circuits have understood the reason was rivers ordinary passer by the third sixth and eleventh, circuit have rejected this definition and said that the reason was over a person's presumed haven't understanding of the general history of display so given Justice Thomas and Gorsuch Gorsuch preference. For examining the text in original understanding of the clause rather than precedents. They think are inconsistent with that. How are they likely to approach this case in how do you think they should approach this case? Well, in fact, rather than just focus on those two justices all expanded out to a majority of the court. If you look at town of grace, which was was written by. By a Justice Kennedy in that was a five four decision of the court. So five justices on here. The Obama administration in town of grace had asked the supreme court only hold that the prayers edition. There were consistent with what the supreme court had previously upheld in its nineteen Ninety-three three case involving legislative prayer or case called Murphy chambers, and the the Obama administration had said these prayer practices. Here are permissible under Marsh, the court should just hold that. That is the case in knock into broader issues regarding the establishment clause, a majority of the court of brushed aside that argument they in fact, what big in they noted at the outset. The first thing that they noted is that yes, the prayers here are consistent with those held in Murphy chambers. But rather than just stop with the very short opinion. They're just as Kim. Kennedy went on to say marshes, sometimes described this carbon out exception to the courts establishment clause jurisprudence because it sustained legislative prayer without subjecting the practice to any of the formal tests that have traditionally structured this inquiry. He then goes on later to say in this majority of the court. Speaking, quote, Marsh, must not be understood as permitting a practice that would amount to accounts the two violation if not for its historical foundation the case teaches instead that the establishment clause must be interpreted by reference to historical practices in understanding later on in the decision. He goes on to say the court the full court goes onto say any test. The court adopts must acknowledge a practice that was accepted by the framers in has withstood the critical scrutiny of time in political change the court goes on for for a number of pages in doing. So it casts serious doubt on this whole reasonable observer concept, this whole endorsement test onset, and it goes on to say that when the court is is reviewing the establishment clause consistent with what it does with other provisions of the constitution. Whether it's a first amendment provisions, like the free speech clause or or the second amendment right to heap in arts that the court needs to look to the historical contours of the clause, which goes on to explain that there were historical hallmarks of religious establishments like laws telling you that you had to attend church on Sunday laws telling you, which you head to attend a tax system that would be a mandatory tied. That's only given to the government's preferred church government licenses for what teaching you can make and that you would be in risk of fines or even imprisonment if you were teaching a doctrine other than that. Which was approved..
"bladensburg" Discussed on We The People
"But that it failed the second and third prongs of the lemon test because it endorse Christianity in a manner that excluded other face disagreed in. Tell us more about that decision. And whether you think it was right shar- sell star with the facts on. We actually see we have different interational the facts, and one of those faxes that the cross actually commenced at the construction began on property that was owned by the town, and we know this because ultimately the cross after it had been arrested, but hadn't been completed the town actually transferred the care of that land cliche of the cross to the American Legion. And that was around that was in the. Mid you know, I think it was nineteen twenty three about then. So the cross had actually already been put up an end Allegiant just happen to finish it. So did start on public land. And this is again, this is a forty foot Christian cross. It's concrete at has some slight arching at the. Where the Vars meet it doesn't look like the white small crosses in foreign battlefields. It's a dominating cross towers over one of the county's busiest intersections, it's unavoidable to passersby and at the time that the reason one of the reasons why couldn't be completed is because it competed for funding with a secular non religious memorial that had just been put up at the county courthouse for World War veterans of Prince George's county, the very same county the cross was in and so many citizens didn't want to support the cross because they adjust supported this other nonreligious, warm Oriel. And that's that goes into the fact that most were one memorials did not use the cross they usually consist of the secular Doboy. It's a sort of a bronze soldier statue knots. The bass common display that's used for World War One the cross. You know, is is a really dissemble honors Christian veterans. But no other ward at are honored by the cross other than Christians. And and so when you have these federal cases out of challenge crosses, you see a landscape of courts consistently recognizing that the cross doesn't recognize other individuals. And so when it sees as as a war memorial. It sends a sharp message of exclusion to those who served our country Dadfar country, but are not honored and practically forgotten when across his used to symbolize the war dead. And so there's about thirty federal cases that have struck down crosses either. If they were used as a memorial or just, you know used for some other purpose, and there's really only three outliers. So that kinda gives you the way that the courts have ruled so the district court in this case that ruled on that upheld across was actually kind of in. It was in the minority of the courts that have dressed cross displays. So when when we appealed up to the fourth circuit court of appeals. We did prevail. There. And the judge judge Docker who wrote the pinion for the majority said that using across to commemorate the war dead is exactly what I just said. It just doesn't commemorate all the war dead until it actually is. It's it just because it's a warm oil just doesn't make it secular. Actually, it's using religious symbol to accomplish that end. And so for that reason it was violet of of the establishment clause. Thank you so much for that Ken to let's delve into the lemon test much, criticized by some defended by others. Justice Scalia wants described it like the goal rising up from the end of a horror movie, which keeps coming back to be invoked by the.
"bladensburg" Discussed on We The People
"Let's jump right in the can briefly state the facts as professor king's field used to say. But the most interesting thing about this case. Is it was built on private land? But the land at some point was bought by the state of Maryland. So it's now on public land. And then tell us what the lower court says some of them applied the so-called lemon test, which we're going to talk a lot about and others applied a test case called man Orden. So tell us about how lower courts differed about whether or not this cross violates established close well happy to in in the nineteen twenties. The American Legion worked with the families of four day nine Maryland citizens from a county in Maryland who had made the ultimate sacrifice in World War. One had actually lost their lives defending the country overseas. And so a memorial was arrested in the shape in configuration of a battlefield memorial that you can find even now in World War One cemeteries on European soil that being a cross state. Of memorial with words in blazoned around the base, like courage and valor in a large bronze plaque that explains. What this memorial is all about who it is commemorating and that was set up again by a private organization on private land. In the nineteen twenties decades later, the state of Maryland was expanding a nearby highway exercising the power of eminent domain and in doing so actually acquired title to the parcel of land. Where this memorial was located even though the memorial went on for roughly another half century. Without anyone having any objections to it until our friends on the other side of this case filed a lawsuit saying that the mere presence of this war memorial. This long standing warm memorial on land that had since become public land was enough. Of itself. Violation of the establishment clause of the constitution. That's the provisions of the first amendment that says that congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion. I liberty institute came in representing the American Legion who intervened in the case. And then we defended the warm Oriel in US district court for the district of Maryland. The case was assigned to to a federal district. Judge who happened to be appointed by President Bill Clinton and on summary judgment that judge held that. The judge noted that there's some questions regarding exactly what the standard is required by the establishment clause. What tests court should apply as it's trying to determine whether the clause has been violated. But the judge determined that under any of the tests that the supreme court had used through the years that this war memorial clearly passed constitutional. Muster under any of those tests so much. So that the judge did not even require oral argument just decided it on the briefs on summary judgment. That was the decision in the district court. It them went up to the US court of appeals for the fourth circuit where the plaintiff syndicates prevailed by two to one divided decision of then the full on bunk court of all the judges of the fourth circuit declined to rehear the case by an eight to six split decision with several vigorous descents in the USA print court has granted survery to hear the case. Possibly in. February of twenty nineteen a regarding weather, this warm Oriel is permitted under the constitution establishment clause. Thank you for that wonderful in clear summary, both of the facts and the lower court holdings. Monica please add anything to the facts, you think relevant and then tell us more about. The fourth circuit ruling writing for the majority. Judge thacker applied of the so-called lemon test, which we're going to hear a lot about and held that the cross satisfied the first prime lemon test. It was put up for secular purposes. Maintaining safety in the intersection and honoring World War One soldiers..
"bladensburg" Discussed on We The People
"I'm Jeffrey Rosen presidency. Oh, the national constitutions had her and welcome to we the people a weekly show of constitutional debate. The national constitution center is a nonpartisan nonprofit chartered by congress to increase awareness and understanding of the constitution. Among the American people on this will dive into one of the most interesting supreme court cases of the year American Legion versus American humanist sociation. The case centers around constitutional challenge to forty foot cross part of the Veterans Memorial in Maryland was built by the American Legion after World War One. And it's being challenged by the hurricane humanist association and Maryland citizens who say that constitutionally promotes Christianity, it's being defended by a cross partisan coalition of citizens and lawyers who say that it does not and it's just a wonderful opportunity to explore the current state of. The establishment pause and. Nature was free of in America. We're so honored to be joined by advocates on both sides of this fascinating case. And it's just great to have both can hausky is representing the American Legion. On behalf of first liberty where he's senior counsel, and director of strategic affairs. He's also senior legal editor for Breitbart news network and previously served as team leader for the constitutional rights team on the presidential transition team of President Trump, Ken, thank you so much for joining Jeff thanks so much for having us and Monica Miller is counsel of record in this case for the American humane association where she is senior counsel since joining the American humanist counselling twenty twelve Monica Miller has litigated many establishment clause cases, and as frequent media commentator, Monica. It's an honor to have you as well. Yes. Just a pleasure to be here. Thank you very much, Ken..
"bladensburg" Discussed on WLAC
"It is the peace cross in bladensburg roland now why is the cross even in the news because the battle over it may end up in the supreme court and the decision could affect similar memorials all over the country earlier this year threejudge panel in the us court of appeals for the fourth circuit ruled two to one that the peace cross is unconstitutional they say that it violates the first amendment by having a primary effect of endorsing religion and excessively in tangles the government and religion does nobody understand the first amendment the peace cross is a forty foot tall world war one memorial that commemorates forty nine soldiers that were killed from prince george's county in maryland the monument was built in nineteen twenty five and you know we're not to to turning out serial killers in prince george's county since nineteen 25 everybody seemed to be okay with it it's funded by the families and the american legion for ninety two years this cross has entangled the government in religions in ways that has wreaked untold havoc on the mines in the art it's of maryland citizens or not whenever somebody even looks at it do they feel enslaved by the american theocracy the raise shooting out of the cross zapping their minds of making them head to their nearest church to worship have you been to prince george's county lately it's obviously very ineffective give but this kind of manipulation has got to be shut down opponents of the peace cross or not actually worried about protecting the first amendment this is the case i believe of antichristian bigotry the fema manager of the pond shop near the peace cross said we heard they may be taking it down i just disagree with added i mean doesn't bother anybody around here i word i worry nobody's going to remember them meaning the world war one soldiers you can't remember something get cannot see which is exactly the outcome the opponents of the peace cross are hoping for have you are you aware at all of the pact of forgetting it was a spanish political decision in nineteen 75 we're going to make a pact to forget about franco why is fascism on the rise in europe one of the reasons people in spain never learned about franco and the death camps and the slaves that he had build spain if you forget something you are destined to repeat it.