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Short Stuff: Black Cowboys

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Short Stuff: Black Cowboys

"Hey and welcome to the short stuff I'm Josh and there's shock who knows where Jerry is but this is short stuff. So it doesn't matter because we can handle it ourselves with a little assist by our friend. Dave couse. Stain. Yeah. I don't think do we. We don't shout out Dave enough. Not Nearly enough as a matter of fact, just make this episode US talking about how Great Davis. Right the original black cowboy. That's right. But totally wrong. But it was a it was a decent attempt at a segue. Yes because we all know the original black cowboy was sheriff bartend blazing saddles. Yeah. I forgot about that movie that's a is that a good one I mean it's a classic it couldn't be made today. Sure. But you know written by Mel Brooks and the Great Richard. Pryor and think those one other writer. But yeah, they played that for comedy in that movie. But as it turns out, there were a lot of black cowboys in the United States in just don't see a bunch of movies and TV shows where they're represented Shaq Shaq but they I, mean there are some statistics that say. Twenty five percent or more of Al all cowboys. After the civil war in the wild west where these black men out there like how he stuff working hard roping cattle doing all the things that you see in the movies. Yeah like the idea from what I can tell from the research, is that the popular conception of cowboys and cowboy life and what cowboys did is fairly accurate but the the race of them in off that that the the just the fact that black people were not all represented among cowboys in the popularization of cowboy life. Back East is just that's the historical misunderstanding that apparently even before the civil war most black cowboys according to one historian of the American West, most of them most of the cowboys were black in that it was a job that was open to enslaved people basically and that if you were white, you didn't want to be known as a cowboy that. That job was potentially beneath you or whatever. Even though it was all about Bronco Busting, you know herding cattle and Lhasa Wing and stuff like that. All the stuff we think of with with cowboys today But that the that transition between being from something that may that was like beneath a a white guy out west to something that was a coveted title among white guys was when back East people started here about cowboys and say those that's cool. What a cool life, and then all of a sudden white guys were like Oh actually I I'm a cowboy now you can count me in. Yeah. I mean I think that that name at least according to this historian as racist in nature. because the the white workers wanted to be called cal punches or Callahan's. and. The black men were called cowboys and like you said once they once lor hit back east they they jumped on that cowboy train 'cause I guess that word took in it sounded cool. Yeah. The thing is I went and tried to corroborate that elsewhere because it makes sense if you take it from that standpoint that is actually cowboy actually has like a denigrating origin but I did not see that anywhere else and I couldn't find the difference between a cowhand and a cowboy. The are completely interchangeable from what I can tell definition wise. But I don't know maybe that just that at a molly got lost a history you know well, Larry Kelly's runs the Black Cowboy Museum Texas and Rosenberg. And we want to credit him with saying that since he's He's where we got it. Yep here. Larry here's the limb. Go out on. So the idea of by cowboys. Cowboys in general really kind of came out of this migration of southerners especially southern whites moving out West Texas for the chance for cheap land wide open spaces the promise of a new chance for a fortune because the south had had really become industrialized as far as agrarianism is concerned in Texas had a lot of opportunity especially if you're willing to push Spanish settlers and indigenous people from Mexico off of their land, you could really make make a name. For yourself in Texas, a lot of those white settlers brought enslaved people with them and they were the earliest black cowboys out there. Yeah. Because what happened was you know you're in Texas, you get roped into the confederacy and then these white people who moved out west co- back east to fight in the civil war they left the people that they enslave behind to keep the ranch going basically right and those that was sort of the beginning of the black cowboy movement. It really was what's interesting is that it was triggered by the civil war that that the civil war created that kind of niche and require in need sorry that need for cowboys of all stripes. But that they that typically fell to African Americans who who were doing this work while the whites were off fighting the war and then when the the war was over when. The the white confederates came back to Texas. They're like, Hey, I don't know if you heard or not, but we're free now. So you have to pay us for this work and because a lot of herds had been broken up loss, there was a lot of work to be done getting these herds back in order and getting Texas back up and running economy wise especially with cattle hurting. Yes. So maybe let's take a break and we'll talk about some of the more famous of these black cowboys right after this. Hey. Everybody. Today's episode is sponsored by the new Mazda C X thirty. 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So if you look at the history books in TV shows and movies, you hear a lot about. Wild Bill Hickok and any Oakley and all these sort of legendary wild west figures You don't hear as much about the black cowboys who were also legendary figures just in the same way like they would. You know some of them were bad guys who would shoot up a saloon and have a gunfight in the middle of the street at high noon. many of them obviously were just regular cowboys. He did hard work day and night rustling cattle some of them also chuck or even lawman to there was a guy named Bass Reeves who was the first? african-american Marshall US Marshal West of the Mississippi, and he had a thirty two year career and apparently was so morally unimpeachable that some people insists he was the the model for the. Lone. Ranger. Net. Crazy. It is. I have to tell you. I grew up on the lone ranger, the nineteen, eighty, two or three movie. Oh, the movie. Okay. Yeah. It inform my childhood is the TV show to a place that and everything that was a big time into the lone ranger. I. Watched that movie within the last couple of months it is one of the most boring movies I've ever seen in my life. Hold up does it I was like my parents must have been like what is wrong with this kid? This movie is just like watching paint dry. Five parts that are that are. Interesting and the rest is like just slowly stream together those parts is really weird and the the chemistry is like, Baking Soda and Baking Soda. Like, nobody has any. Like my it means that there's nothing hang. There's no reaction I. Tell You what I love about that movie is that that Color Blue of his outfit? It's The star of the movie basically. Yeah. Color of his hat to because it was white but it wasn't stark White House for this. White Yeah he had a tinge of badness to him. But I, guess not another famous black cowboy from back in the day was a man named bows I card He is in the hall of fame at the National Multicultural Western Heritage Museum, and Hall of Fame, God bless the people who founded that know and he was the right hand man to one Colonel Charles Goodnight. He was a big super successful cattleman in Texas and apparently if you've ever read or seen lonesome dove Larry mcmurtry. So sort of classic Western I never have the The character of Joshua defeats was based on him played by none other than Danny Glover who was not too old for that death. Who is what? He was not too old for that S. that's the big. Too Old for this s o those great joke. I'm sorry. Repeat it. That's all right. So there's another one named, Bill Pickett. who was a very famous Rodeo he he was one of the first african-american Rodeo men I guess and he invented the the sport of steer wrestling, which is where you ride up alongside a st year and growing by the horns and drag him to the ground us at least here it's really awful especially when you on you understand what he came up with just it's called bulldogging where is a technique that he would? Feel, the steer with pain by biting its lip and he was inspired by watching dogs, herd cattle. So he tried it himself. He's like this really works but. He was a genuine trailblazer in the Rodeo world and despite the fact that he was barred from competing in Rodeos even though he was among the best that Rodeos were segregated for very long time, and if you were an African American, Rodeo Cowboy you had to compete either late at night or early in the morning before the actual Rodeo started or else you might have your own rodeo altogether I mentioned outlaws. There was a man name I summer Isam Dart. he was an enslaved person who who went the other way and he was a horse thief like so many other horse thieves he would steal horses and cattle in Mexico drive across that big old Rio Grande River Selam off in Texas and like so many outlaws he was he was shot down by a hired gun in this case. Tom Horn. And I'm thinking of movies I think there have been a couple of movies where they. Did represent these black cowboys, but it always seemed like these movies were sort of A. Not, a trick but just kind of like a like stunt casting like you're GonNa make a movie with black cowboys how different instead of wealth is just like any other western because this is how it was exactly and I'm sure that they were all just left out of the history books because some oversight but I'm glad we're here correcting today. We're trying our best. There's also we would be very terribly remissed if we didn't mention the most famous black cowboy of all time one nate love known as Deadwood Dick and he's nat no, it's not I. SP- specifically saw in a couple of places in fight. Yeah. His name was he was born Daniel and I guess they just didn't feel like adding the which is significant because he was. taught to read and write despite being born enslaved has father taught him to read and write. So he was educated enough that he actually wrote his autobiography in one thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen, seven. I. I should have just kept it as nineteen seven that sounded kind of old timey but chuck I think you need to read everybody the the title and know that there is not single Colin founded. Yeah. It's life and adventures of Nat love and it's spelled NATO, in his. Autobiography Titus where it's nate. Well, I'm looking at the book cover. I. Know I'm telling you pronounced nate. Okay. But. There is no. I just want to point out to people. Live in adventures. Of Blank love better known in the cattle country as deadwood. Dick by himself colon a true history of slavery days life on the great cattle ranges and on the planes of the wild and Willey West based on facts and personal experiences by the author. There is a coal and I thought that was a semi colon. There's always a colon isn't there seems to be, but he was like you were describing like he would get in shootouts and he was kind of known as a abandoned her an outlaw in some circles but from what I can tell us just legitimate bona fide cowboy and he led a cowboy life like any other cowboy would fantastic. It really is fantastic. Very, very big self promoter like so many of those cowboys back then yeah for sure they say that they're not entirely certain where fact. Departs from fiction in his autobiography, but it's apparently a heck of a read. So go check it out. and I guess I said check it out, which means that that short stuff is out. It's out. Stuff you should know is production of iheartradio's how stuff works for more podcasts from iheartradio visit, the iheartradio APP apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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