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Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: At-Home Workout 2 - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #177

20 Minute Fitness

05:42 min | 11 months ago

Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: At-Home Workout 2 - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #177

"Muscat everyone. Welcome back to another episode fitness once. Gabby host Charlie. I'm back home workout for you to do so. Little keeping fit and healthy and com. Let's make sure we all support one another during this time. If you haven't already listened to our latest episode may short tune in we run you through a full body buddy. We work out at home with no equipment by today's episode of Gates. Give you a circuit. You can do home. Obviously want to adhere to the social distancing on Youtube. Workup sweat while still remain at home but first semester. Thank you to our sponsor shape shave building shape scale bodies cutting scale. That's going to track your body in Three D. Provide you with data show body. Fat Percentage Newly Muscle Mass. To make sure that your new way to reaching your fitness goals to check them out of SHAPE SCALE DOT com. But now let's get into awesome exercises that you can do to make sure you don't fall behind with your physical fitness so this one is going to be an intense one so clear some room in your house your garden or wherever tatum at home and tell me some explosive movements. Ms First Up. We get between jumping lunges song regime know how to perform a lunge but all the difference here is not it's apply metric movement is boost cardiovascular endurance as well as lower body strength. So what did you get into the lunch? Position prepared to jump by bending your knees and sinking down into a deep lunge lean slightly forward and contractual on then explode up as explode up and jump into the air. Bring your feet quickly together on twitter. Feed positions is as you begin to land. You should also switch your arm positions as you do as well and then obviously as you. Land maintain a balanced Position you'll forward knee each Catholic bishop Ford made should be over. Your forward foot are not beyond and obviously to make sure that you land softly on the forward mid foot and let your he'll come in contact with the ground and then repeats so that's a first movement the jumping lunch with that. Have a jumping. Squawked say similar to a bodyweight squats becoming the lost episodes but we're GONNA explode upwards instead of stopping at the standing position and jump up arms towards the sky or the ceiling and then landed safely sink into all squats. Repeat we did have the inch. One said the inchworm exercise for a little everything really helps strengthen the muscles of -Tario chain which the front hall your body and also stretches the muscles of your Paul Stereo Trains. Back off your body. So He's talked to me entire body in some capacity and getting the blood flowing again. Start Your feet. Roughly hits and support. Take a big breath. Did that as you exhale. Look down at the ground installed reaching your hands towards the floor in front of your feet allow you back to bend one. Vertebra at a time and place your in front of your feet and start walking your hands away from your feet as you can get further away from your body. Allow you heels to come off the ground as your body begins the straighten so when you huns directly under your shoulders check your phone at this stage because you should be full plank position you'll coal chess quads triceps and shoulders or engaged. Then when you're in the plank start walking your hands back towards your feet until directly in front of your feet and stomach up on repeat the movements again from this begins. Go into a high knees. Say Hynix engage. I'll cool strengthen the muscles in legs and get our heart rates up to improve momentum. A coordination and flexibility so feet hit with Paul together a false explosive action. Lift your knee up towards your chest. Alternating knees each time on next excise thing called a groin. A- now the going is was the two movements not cold. The Groin Outweigh game for the one that is the explosive movement rather than the stretch. So how do we do this again? To Stop for the plank or extended push-up position with Angie jumped. Bertha feet woods chest. Landing with feet next to our hand started on the floor and does jumping off feet up towards a hands again to raise your hands in front of us on. Rays are up a tool so so. We ended up finishing in a deep squat. We have placed on back on the ground in front of us and jump off the back and repeat movement so jumped the feet forward from descended prying colpepper position and then into deep squat and so on jump defeat back so these are all movements. Now is persistent conceptualize circuit. So we're GONNA START WITH FIFTEEN REPS OF ARE JUMPING. Lunges straighten to ten to fifteen reps of are jumping squats. Were then going to straighten to ten inch. Worms followed immediately by twenty five seconds of high knees. I'm then going. Finish the first round of the circuits with ten to fifteen groin as an opponent completion of the Groin. As this marks round one of four soon repeat this three times and hopefully you'll experience your heart rate. Pounding calories being burned sweat working up on. You'll have hot a great at home workout again. If is slightly beyond your experience or ability level than simply adjust the number of rounds of the number of reps exercise or again. Make it more difficult for yourself. By adding rounds or increasing rep counts or trying complete. It's time to say self-assessment time and then try to stick within like I had to do it under excellent time each time we can. We'll keep physically active at home. We just need a bit of space. Our bodies on the determination to continue on as normal despite no hunting James and San Juan to to accommodate us. So let us know how you get with this. Let's the work out and stay tuned for the next one but until we got very soon.

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#148 - 2 Key Insights to Help You SLAY Your Week #DOMINATE

Change Lives Make Money

20:18 min | 9 months ago

#148 - 2 Key Insights to Help You SLAY Your Week #DOMINATE

"What is going on squad? Welcome to the James Is. Make money on my podcast. The number one show for you want to make more money change more people's lives and have more of an impact on the world although spending thousands of dollars on a website or even paid ads. Mining's Brian Mark and I've been all my fitness coach for four years and my four years coaching. I helped over one thousand. Online fitness clients completely transformed their lives and in the last year. I decided to start stepping up and sharing my knowledge with personal trainers on how I quit my job and I took my business online. In last year I helped over one hundred trainers quit their jobs and take their businesses fulltime online. So if you're brand new here them welcome. I have a free e book for you that talks about how my clients MC ten game month with ministry. I'm sorry with your name all you gotta do. Dm ME on instagram. That's at be mark fit and I will send you your guide on how my clients make ten thousand dollars a month instagram stories. Now let's get into showed what I like Vegas coaches. It's your remark. Been coming at you. Another episode of James Make podcasts. Let's go but have the best ever so dice. Today's podcast episode is about two key insights to help you slay your week. I want you to slay regard this to be the best of your entire life because a lot of people wake up and get out of bed and they're not feeling motivated. A lot of us are guilty of now. You don't feel like we're excited to get into bed. We don't be like we're excited to start the work. We don't feel like we're motivated to move forward in a lot of us feel frustrated and because honestly building it on. My business isn't easy. It's not easy. It's not like one of those things that just magically happens. You got to put in work day in and day out day in and day out. Sometimes off at work doesn't see an. Roi Right away so easy feeling like all the stuff you're doing is actually working. Okay so this podcast episode is going to be helping you. Guys set up to slater when Slayton Week. Let's talk about saying for me being able to slay my week means I wake up and I'm like saying it and I'm like motivated fuel good and I'm like ready to take on my week for me like being able to slay. My Week means like looking at the things that I have to do for the day. I'm like Yo let's go I'm ready. I'm excited MTA and I think what it actually needs to slater. Week is to not eat an alarm clock when you get so excited to wake up and get out of bed and you don't feel like you need an alarm clock because your vision and your wolves wake you up like that's the feeling I wanNA give you guys in that sense of purpose that I hope to give you guys with his podcast and so guys. I WanNa talk a little bit about my client Chad Morgan. Because I mean about over the weekend and sure you guys read. The Post. Chad made thirty eight thousand dollars in. Its second run with me. And he made twenty thousand first month and there are three big changes that we made to Chad strategy to help make this kind of money and a lot of it didn't have to do is actual business like a lot of it wasn't business ethics the three big changes that we made in chess. Oh for CHAT WITH HIS BIGGEST MONTH AKA in his first month with me. He may twenty three big changes that we made in his first number one vision number two goal setting and number three morning ritual so today. We're gonNA talk about zoo. I'm not going to get to deep in the morning ritual. You're my client. We talked about that a little bit this morning. I want to get really really deep into vision and I WANNA get really really deep into you. Call setting reviewing so vision. Let's talk about like setting wall street so i think that when it comes down to setting goals for our selves like a lot of us as we get older and older we actually shy away from setting off because of any sort of failure that we've had in the past. How many guys that are tuning into this? Ever set a goal for yourself that you really cared about. They ended up bailing or you ended up not getting for me. It was football so when I was in high school. I told myself that I was going to be a player. And that's all I wanted. That's all I dreamed up but then when I ended up playing a couple of years junior and I realized that it wasn't going like I felt like an actual Baylor because I really wanted to do that thing but then I didn't end up doing it and so I ended up feeling like a failure and so as I got older it was actually ardent for me to set goals for myself and to create a vision because in the back of my mind. I was like obvious point. You're just GONNA FAIL AGAIN. So vision means where do you? WanNa go like. What sort of goals that? You're looking to accomplish with your life. How much money do you want to be making? What kind of car do you want to be driving like? What is your aspirations and goals for your relationships that type of House that you wanna live it and the recent us about vision. There's a couple of top Chad in a second. I WanNa talk about me myself and my own journey and so there was a video that came up with my facebook news. Feed the other day and it was like you know those videos competence all your reminders. Of three years ago. The memories in this case so three years ago yesterday there was a video that I breathe it and I was in my bedroom and I was showing my audience. My Vision Wall showing off his vision. My Vision Ball was basically pictures that I've painted offer like printed off from the Internet and put on his wall and this vision was all the things that I want to accomplish in my life. And what are the things that was on? That wall was my two thousand. Nineteen Dodge Challenger that. I'm currently driving right now and so I put that on my visual like three years before I actually purchased the AGO and putting that car on that board was the first step to me actually doing that thing because then when I was working towards my goals like my vision was the first thing I wake up in the morning boo. The first thing that I see is all of these like Wafi goals and aspirations that myself and so when I was feeling like I didn't want to work on my business I would literally look at my wall. It'd be like if I don't work on my business today Matt. I will get a car if I don't work in my business day. That means that person. That's on my Walsh. By don't work in my business and there wasn't a specific personnel but it was like a picture of a couple of is that like a specific person like Britney Spears that I want to be Britney Spears little anyways but if I don't work in my business today then I'm GonNa fail at these large scale goals and so having these reminders of things that I wanted to accomplish is what allowed to continue to work on my business day in and day out see. I think as on my business. We get scared of setting goals. Because we don't want to let ourselves down because if we set ourselves in the past we wanted to be a cop you wanted to be. Pharmacist want to be a pro athlete. Whatever it is and we ended up failing at that goal on some level. We feel like we're gonNA fail again and so some of us don't set goals because we don't want to let ourselves down but what I'm talking about vision I'm talking about like where do you WanNa go like if there was like no limits your life. What sort of money would you WANNA make? What kind of car would you want to drive? What kind of house did you live in? A getting clear in your vision is so so so important. Someone Join my program that was literally the first thing that we got on my now that you're in the program. I want you to write a letter to yourself and this letter to yourself. I want you to detail in the next six months or imagine that you actually teleport into the future on August thirty first dozen in twenty and I want you to write down everything that's happening in your life so much money making a car you're driving. How many clients you're helping your health. Looks like all of it and we got him to clean his vision and having this clarity of vision gave them a sense of purpose as it started working on goals and then he started telling you do like. I'm waking up every single day. Have motivated excited because when you get clear on your vision as in where you WANNA go. You become unstoppable and I think let's talk about the word vision for a second because I think it's a little cheesy right. It's it's a little bit like over like vision and goal setting. Has this like negative stigma to it. But here's what I want to say to you. What do you want to accomplish your life? That's the simplest question. How much money do you want to make? What kind of car do you WANNA drive? Where do you WANNA live? What is your relationship like? What type of friends do you want to have around like? What do you watch? I think that so many of us as coaches spent so much time thinking about all the things we don't want we think about all the things that we're struggling with all the negative things that are happening in our life that we don't ever focus on what we want. I CAN'T ATTRACT CLIENTS. That's what you don't want you know. I'm broke right now. That's what you don't want you know I can't seem to sell any clients that you don't want and so whatever we focus on expands and so we spent all of his time thinking about the failures Kenitra. Clouds can't sell class. No leads above Blah Blah. It's going to be really hard to get into bed in the morning because we're not going to be very optimistic about right. We're not going to be very optimistic about getting out of bed. If all we're focusing on is ship we don't want like no clients. Dat Struggling can attract clients whatever we focus on expense. That's good and bad and so vision is choosing to focus on what you want. That's if you guys are like listening right now write. That down. Vision is choosing to focus on what you want because I think that too many people spend too much time thinking about things. They don't want all. I want to set a vision for myself but I really bad break up so I'm really scared of getting hurt again. What are you focusing on that? I really want to build my own my business but I don't have enough money to invest in the Metro in my social media really small. Those are all things that you don't want. So why are you talking about and why focusing? I don't spend anytime anytime thinking or talking about. Shit I don't want and that's how I ended up creating my dream. Life is I choose to focus on what I want. I choose to focus on my goals. I choose to focus on solutions. If somebody brings me a problem I give them a solution. I'm not like I don't care about the problem. I don't care if you have fitness clients guys. It's the same thing for business lines because not just clients that like don't WanNa work out and this is something that happened to me personally in my life recently with somebody that was close to me like had to stop working out because this this reason miseries industries in and they sent me a list of like six reasons. I'm like Y'all at the end of the day. Like what do you? What do you want to be overweight or do you want to be fit because if you want be fit then you have to focus on what you want. Then you find ways to make it happen but if you don't really WanNa be you're focusing on all these excuses on why you can't commit then that's what you get because whatever you focus on you expect so vision is choosing to focus on what you want and so for you on my coach if you're feeling lack of motivation. It's likely that you sight of what you want. And you got caught up in the mix of how much it's GonNa take to make it happen so once I decide what I want. That's the first step and then I paste. Visual liners everywhere. Like I division board in my room my phone. My phone backgrounds on my phone is my larger scale goals. My computer background is the next car. I'm going to purchase and I promise you guys it's going to be fucking epic and so all of these things that I'm doing every single day. I have this clear. Vision is clear picture of exactly what I want a great with my life that step number one two slaying. Your fucking week is knowing exactly what you want so sent number two. What is step number dose? Okay so we have these largest goals right like maybe it's you WanNa make twenty km thirty came on. You want to be able to quit your jobs. You can spend more time with your daughter. You WanNa have a philly relationship. You're has whatever it is. You have these scale goals. Then we need to take action steps and so every Sunday what I do is. I have this little ritual. I call review and do so. I think the reason the reason that a lot of us bail out goes is. We don't lay out some action steps to get there and so for me. The best way to think about goal setting is to decide like when you create a vision. You decide the direction that you want to go. And when you sit down every single week you analyze the steps that you're taking and ask yourself or these steps getting closer to my goal or not and so for me. This is what I did my vision. Large-scale bowl and every Sunday I have a session I call it do and review what I mean by that is. I'll sit down and look at my weekly goals for last week and I'll look like did I hit this goal. I have three areas that I set goals were actually. I'm not going to deeper. I can do another gas on that so I'll look at my goals that I set for the week and I'll say this goal. Yes or no. It's an in-between thing it's not like. Yeah I kind of hit it but it was like no I said I wanted to go for a run five times this week. Did I hit this old? Yes or no no. Why did I not at this school because honestly I slept in a little bit too much and I think I was a little bit lazy my morning so like next week. I'm going to be laser focused on my morning ritual and make sure I doubt it because if we don't have this process analyzing ourselves we're doing sort of like a personal audits. Then we're going to end up doing the same things over and over again expecting to get different results. I'm sure you guys have all heard that Einstein said the definition of sanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. And so if you're not moving forward in your life but you're not taking a look at the action steps that are creating results in how you supposed to make any sort of progress so for me. This sort of analysis of my behavior allows me to adjust my game plan when I need. You also gives me the credit deserve. I deserve it because if I'm like analyzing my goals and I said gentlemen I said I was going to go for a run five times as we did. I hit the school. Yes why did it hit this? Because I was so committed I got up on time and absolutely crush morning. Felt Amazing Mo now. I'm giving myself a positive affirmation that I need to continue that behavior now next week. I'll continue that behavior. Does this make sense? Another reason that this guy is a lot of us one concept that we have to kind of understand while we're thinking about taking steps towards a dream is you have to take responsibility like that happened in my mind is fucking Michael everything like if I don't have time to work out that's my fucking ball if I'm to stress to work on my business that's my fault if I had clients drop because they said that they eat. That's my fault if I have a client that hangs up me and says like not not hangs up walks me. That's my fault and so taking full responsibility. Ownership allows me to continue moving forward and make progress in every area by life because when something happens like let's say client leaves or am talking about negative shit right now because I think when negative happens a lot of people don't like to accept him. Let's fall off topic journey or me and my fiance into a huge fight. When all these things happen if I keep blaming other people that will never do the work necessary to improve myself and get better on week basis and so taking responsibility and saying everything that happens. Is My bucket ball if I have no leads? It's my clothes any calls this week. It's my if I take full responsibility than I can fix the problem going into next week. Okay I didn't get any latest week. It's my fault like threes. Get any leads. Because I didn't make any social media a so. What do I need to do next week? In order to make sure that I get these social media well I can start with hosting times. I'm sure that would attracts them. And then as a post I can get better posting but first let's just post by times of social media. That's my goal this week. When you post my times you get means you're like okay like ghost to get ten leads. I got but I only got two sales pitch. I really WanNa make sales so what I need to do with myself game this week. I'm GONNA keep posting five times and I'm GONNA tune into Brian's podcast boat sales or I'm gonNA listen to do videos about sales to make and then you get a little bit better. And then you made three sales and then it continues and then you grow and grow and that is how you make progress in your life not by setting some abstract. All right I WANNA make ten months and then you never actually look at the steps that you're taking a fat loss. Client that you have. It's in your program. That isn't losing weight every single week. And it's because they're eating and night of telling you and so if they don't actually sit down and be like I'm eating in Wnba an asshole like if they don't have that conversation with themselves then they'll never lose weight and so it's the same conversation that you guys did. Have Yourself every single week? What am I doing right now? Business or give myself a pat on the back that and what am I doing right now. The schooling my business back and I'm GONNA fix that. Behavior is that makes sense and so for me. I do that every Sunday. Got My largest goals. My vision already created this in order to create then every Sunday. Sit Down and I do a process called review and do what I will review my previous weeks goals and I will set new schools when I'm reviewing my previous schools do is I'll be like did I have this goal. It's a yes or no question. It's not like almost it but no it's like you did or did it so no I didn't go for my cardio. Why because I didn't get one because I stopped doing my alarm house lace. Be Honest with yourself and then with that honesty looking. What do I need to do to fix this or next week? I'm going to absolutely commit to going to bed thirty minutes earlier so that I can wake up on time. When my land was often I'm gonNA crush mourning rituals and then you get better and better and better and better and that's how your life gets better so for me. Every single Monday I wake up is exciting. Because I'm like it's time to kill it like I know what I need to do. I know what I need to prove from last weekend so now today. I'm going to kill it because I know exactly what you need to do. So in summary On that. Business coaches shoe key insights. That are going to help you slay your week. Number one is create a vision and a vision is. What do you want? Stop thinking about. You can't attract clients no means are coming to you building businesses hard. This isn't working for me. All of that shit that you're thinking about is causing you to create more of it because whatever you've focused on expense and so you keep talking about how you chant signed clients you can't attract leads. A Corona virus broke. If you keep talking about that what's going to happen is you're not gonna be able to create any sort of positive momentum because whatever you're focusing on is expanding expanding all the negative shit and so creating a vision is making. The decision to expand is making the decision to focus on the things that you want and focusing on the things that you want those things fan and then opportunities will start to come from you. Don't even know where they came from like. You're like Oh shit. My client has sent me a referral. Who was a cousin and then hunting and also signed up because whatever you're focusing on his expanding and so create a vision for yourself and start focusing on things that Moore step number one step number two is. What is your goal for this week? Like what sort of action. Sex JEANS TAKE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH UP ARTIST GAIL goal. And so if you say you WANNA make ten came out. That's amazing. What action steps are you going to take this week? That's GonNa Move Your Business. Or what do you need to do? If you're trying to work on the relationship with your significant other and you want like this perfect happy relationship. That's your vision. Then what action steps do you need to take? This week is going to help. Remove that forward if you WANNA have shredded six pack and that's your vision. What action steps are you gonNA take this week to make sure that you guys need to put this ownership on your clients as well like your clients can't just come pay you? Twelve contrition programming. Then like magic happens like you need to give them the program and then ask them. What are you GonNa do this week to make sure that you get down. Make sure you're one step closer to twenty one loss like. What are you going to do this week? Can make sure that this this is your program but what are you going to do to make sure that you get wants to closer to lose it? I want you guys to take that sort of extreme ownership with your business because I can absolutely promise you if you do you will start to create results that you can't even begin to imagine guys literally three years ago. I put a car on my wall. The kind of Car. I wanted to drive since I was a kid and right now. I'm driving that car and that's because I put it on my board and then it became. I react as I was just staring at it every single day and then one day I was like I'm in a place remedy to purchase carton fucking purchase. It so if I can do that you guys can do that too. I've also briefly a quick wrap up. I the same thing with every single income I've ever had for myself ever I. It was three came up. I put my wall my Bishop Ford. I put it as my computer. Screen background is everywhere. Was I got two three sick now. I'm going to get to five K. So I put that as my back on board is on. My phone is everywhere they want to get to five cows like. It's eight Bishop Board background gold screen everywhere. I was can get ten fish board. Phone screen background everywhere. Then I got ten and then it continued to so guys if I can do. I'm just a regular dude but I'm giving tools that I used to take myself from drug addict for years ago to running a thriving on my business over four hundred clients. There's no secret sauce. I just gave you guys tools. Get Crystal Clear in what you want to make. Sure you're taking active steps forward every single day towards vision. So that's it on the trainers. Thank you so much returning in. This is make on the podcast. Three ways you can help is number one if you haven't already subscribed with gas APP do not. Going change is make money on spotify or black ash number two. You can scream. Any one of these podcasts. That results from the APP to your instagram story. Tag Not be market the genetic and number three if you have a friend who was a personal trainer. That could use some help. Send them my way out absolute lobster right. That's for now guys. I appreciate you. I have the best week of your entire life. Let's slay adopted. Hey if you're a brand new here thank you again for spending your valuable time with me. I really appreciate it. I truly do respect your time and I hope this was valuable for you. So if you're brand new listener again thank you for checking of the show and don't forget you can grab your copy of the book clients. Make ten thousand dollars a month with instagram stories over instagram. All you gotTa do is. Dam Me and tell me that you listened to the podcast. Be Sure to join me on the next episode at thanks again so much for spending your town. Alexander to catch you on the next episode. Jesus is make money the podcast.

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Life, Lending, & Laughs(Ep.24)Tips From The Best In The Biz, The Highly Entertaining Sal Criscuolo

Casandra Properties Real Estate Podcast

1:16:27 hr | Last month

Life, Lending, & Laughs(Ep.24)Tips From The Best In The Biz, The Highly Entertaining Sal Criscuolo

"I woke up with that passion. I wanted to do it any regret that i have is. I didn't journal. I shoulda journal Once in a while think of all man. I wish i would've wrote that down because the journey is really where the love is. I had so much so much fun being broken struggling in the beginning and just waking up with that passion hunger together and being able to utilize it. Welcome everyone to episode. Twenty four of the cassandra properties podcast We have a real treat for you today. A beautiful human being. We're joined by my good good friend. Sal chris quo. He is the or one of the leaders on the home team for freedom mortgage. He is an entrepreneur. he is an author. He is a motivational speaker Hopefully one day. He'll be a partner of mine in one capacity or another. I'm dying to do business with this guy. He's just that kind of a human being. And as i said in the beginning above all he's a friend and just a wonderful wonderful person. Sal thank you for joining us today. Thank you james. And thank you beautiful introduction. They i should just leave now. Everyone's day say. I approve this message. The the feeling is mutual. My brother Very mutual from the. I met you. I mean i know. I know the history. Behind you cassandra properties and respected at all the way since i've been here on staten island. Well i appreciate it coming from you. That means a lot because you are really the gold standard Just as a as a human being in the short time that we've really gotten to know each other on a different level Have to say that a move just about every time we speak so And that that's that's just speaking from the heart one of those rare genuine genuine people. So you you you do a little bit of everything and the audience often likes to kind of take a glimpse behind the curtain and talk about you know Growing up influences and and how you ended up where you are today. So let's let's go back in time a bit. Did you have what was ever this passion to be involved in so many things into the public. Speaking of fifty seven thousand followers on instagram. I mean really like this. Always part of your dna or walk through that i. It wasn't always part of my dna I had to. When when i was in school i was actually left back in the sixth grade and it was because of math All i do basically most of my day is math. Basically with the rewards come more business so having that experience at that time and and those teachers in school that i was at and watching my mother who was a single mom she would work and wherever she worked i worked she worked in a fabric store. I vacuum the fabric store. She worked in a funeral home. I vacuum the home so she always made sure that. I had that that respect for money and and waking up early in the morning and earning earning a good wage did fall into different crowds when i was younger and believe it or not. I think that's where i've learned most of my lessons Able to see see people for what they really are. And i learned to not judge people i. Nobody has business charging anyone until they're perfect and we know how that works. So i i would have to say you know. I really gotta look to my mom. She was really She was she was something else. So we share that same thing with me. You know mom single mom and out hustling in real estate and anything else. She could do to to make ends meet so I was also dragged around from appointment to appointment and You know it's funny when you said that it brought back memories of of her working all hours and me being in the office and doing the same thing cleaning the desks vacuuming and helping her. You know put phones in when she made the decision to go on her own back in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine really does have an impact on you they were they were the gangsters doubt really. They put their time in. What better role models than it actually tested a fact of the person that you are and the legacy you continue and i think a beautiful thing love of a mother. You don't realize it you know as you're going through it and you kinda grumbling. You're not doing what you wanna be doing goofing off as a kid but being a part of of that It certainly does imprint on you. I think a couple of things. I think that From a work ethic perspective. You know seeing mom go at it and hustle. The way she did and and seeing her struggle whether she recognized that of the young age we recognized it or not Having an understanding of the value of money and just yeah she was a beast still is still comes in you know slack around at the end of the day but i actually know what a bar of soap taste legs. Yeah oh yeah it's not. It wasn't fake. I'm going to put a bar soap Amount of she put a. I know what ivory tastes like. I tell my kid they don't believe me but my i can't knock my hit. My kids just have three children of a son and two daughters and It just so good. I tell them what should be reckless once when he has to get in trouble with. They're they're just good kids. Well young adults now But trying to pass the baton. So did you ever get the wooden spoon. Oh yeah. I got the wooden spoon a lot. She brokaw lot of wooden spoons. Wooden spoon the backhand right. Yeah the back end up. It's funny as as you grow up and you become an adolescent and your when your friends are doing what you do when you get into trouble. I was always and to this day. We're going to be honest right. I'm still petrified. My mother this very day at crazy that sticks right. I like you know i'll go. I'll take on anything. My mother of still afraid of forty five years old. Remarkable as you should be should so you have this experience with mom and your education is not exactly in sync with where you ended up in life right. so why. don't we talk through that a little bit. Sure while i went to i actually went to bishop ford after i graduated at the asia's which was right next door to my house like i heard the bell from my home Should ford didn't work out too. Well and i ended up going to lafayette went to lafayette. Just in and out in and out in and out I got a call from my uncle from seattle washington. And if you think. I did a lot of stuff we should i start to get to now. You've got me a job. At boeing for boeing temporarily for about a year learning how to put plans together using rivets and stuff like that i i continued with school there at ever community college while i was there. And i was training at boeing. I missed home a lot. And i missed my first girlfriend. Who's now my wife was seventeen at the time while. Yeah we've been together a long time -gratulations on that thank you for a long time I won't let my kids grow up parent household in any case. I made sure she was the right one but i missed are lots. I did come back after a year with some new skills and a little bit of a southern drawl. At the time i did speak a little differently but why was down there. I had a horse. I learned like the country life and it was. It was just a beautiful thing. The air was unbelievable. had an accent. I mean when i came back i was actually went from being out of shape to being in pretty decent shape and start playing hockey Which is basically was a prelude to my life hockey and and just learning how to Get along with people having the camaraderie a through the sports i kinda bought. I brought that that effort and that that team spirit to everything i started doing my problem was the i thought the way i felt about. People was the same way people felt about me. And that's you can't look at life like that because everybody has their own experiences and you can't expect them to think how you do. It took me years to figure that out. You always wanna see the best in people especially if you have the best interests at heart for them But you know you learn you learn as you go but you can't take that black eye and handed off to the next person you have. Everybody cleaned sleet as long as you think he'll do well so i came back and had this idea everybody was making money on wall street. I didn't know what they would do how they were doing it. So i said let me go get my series. Seven down wall street took a couple classes with some crazy guy. Twenty to seek on over. Forget his name. I storm later on. He was acting in movies and stuff like that Got my series seven. Sixty three twenty four and started started a book of business. I didn't really like the way the first firm was going. So i went and i applied to gruntal i worked there was a clark. I was doing underwriting. Over in reviewing mortgage backed securities. So i was actually got into the business from the back to the front got. I and i like this money on these. Well the law. He gets this and the bank. It's this and i was like. Oh that seems like a profitable business. I do that. I had a friend who had a call center in brooklyn i asked selling daily new subscriptions. I asked him if he can turn it on for mortgages. And i would split it with them. Whatever we didn't he had a room full of people and the first night we turn the machines on an application. That was Brothers it was actually the owner of one of the brothers peter on staten island in page avenue. The father vincent. I think they don't forget your first deal So and that's just where start you didn't need a license or anything back then I started with that. I built a nice book of business with referrals all the same time i started building a family when the family comes all of a sudden. Put your head down and you starting to work those extra hours. There was probably working twenty five hours a day of twenty four. I was. I was waking up in the middle of the night and ideas so started building that business up and all the time Playing hockey never stopped. Playing hockey was the one thing that i didn't have to think about it was it was miami. Yep it was just put skates on. And the whistle blows and you're playing you. Don't think about anything and trust me. I didn't think about anything. Hit people would hit me a scoring goals. You didn't even know what was going on. But it's just takes on a life of its own Which is once again where the camaraderie kept coming in. And i'm i'm friends. And i still play with the same kids haul them that i played with back then so to continue on. Because i'll keep continuing james. This'll keep going to continue on. While i was on wall street in making that transition and mortgages i opened up a sandwich shop i i. My mom made the best meat balls in the neighborhood. So i'm mike. Let's sell my mom's meatballs. And i want to see both. Can you make them. She's like because my friends used to come over the house. They would also my mother's meatballs rice bowls so when the sandwich shop with a friend of mine on sixty i in twentieth avenue called. Smg sandwich shop. And when i tell you we had lines around the corner really. Yeah i i would close the gates down at three o'clock and skip to the park avenue park and we'd go and we'd play. We'd play hockey until it got dark out. Because i had to play hockey. I wouldn't stay open till five. I i refuse to do you do it. I'm going to play hockey and The sandwich shop was doing well. I subsequently sold it. Is the food service business for me. chuck scarborough. Put us on the map. I believe he's on channel four at the time if he's still on i don't know but he came in. He had a corn for astronomy sandwich. And he's talked about it on the news. You kidding me. He talked about on the news. Because i heard about this place. I went down. We were open a short period But when the guy came to give us an offer on on the place he knew that and he saw and he was just like. I'm going to ride the coattails of this thing and go right ahead. His my mother's recipe too. If you want your rent. They're out shall make the meatballs voting so we sold it at that point. And that's when i jumped into full mortgage mode and at that time i was starting to well on all the ideas on how to grow the business And went from telemarketing to starting to network. I saw that. I had a great niche in the networking arena and the if i met people and spoke to them and got them past my look. that i can probably do a little bit better. I had i had a look. That wasn't approachable back. Then when i had hair head hair. And i had the brooklyn role even friends of mine when see them in random daily. You talk differently. I'll talk differently. So i just want to pause for a minute because we come around there water. So it's it's interesting that for you. It's hockey but people like us are always on right. Wake up in the middle of the night ideas hard time falling asleep ideas wake up first thing in the morning ideas were always going And that while that's great in some regards and it's productive it also can be debilitating because you don't get that time to check out yet if you hit on yours as you refer to it. It washes away completely for me. It's fly fishing. And i could be you know manic hours of the day right. I'm constantly going constantly thinking. And i hit the water and it just hours can can burn off the clock. And i'll i won't even be. Cognizant of of how much time has passed because for whatever reason when you hit that zen again as you described it and we need that yes badly right behind our minds so thought that that was interesting that few hockey and before we really dive into the mortgage stuff you had mentioned mortgage backed securities. I want to know more about fly fishing team on. Let's go. i love kidding. I i i love fishing once again. It is definitely a great place. I i don't find the time really these days to fish anymore but i was when i was younger. My mom used to take me fishing so she gave me that love. I wish my kids had a little bit of it so give me a little bit of fly fishing. What's that little technique shore so for me The reason i'm drawn to it. Is i think the challenge right It's fly fishing is certainly One would argue the most difficult. Which of course is in my personality. We've got to do the most difficult no way of doing it. But there is a beauty that comes along with reading the water. And i define the proper season taking the rocks out From from the stream seeing which bugs are hatching Trying to match match the hatch match that to. What's in your box. What's hatching above water. What's going on subsurface at that particular time. You know a trout basically just sit there and we'll watch millions of bugs fly by its nose all day long right washing pie by washing by so they will pick out this. When i tell you the smallest detail you could have a fly assize. Twenty fly like this tiny tiny fly. And if you have. I don't know cream thread belly of one and a green thread on the belly of another yuga. Throw that that cream bellied past that fly a hundred times past that drought one hundred times. It'll never touch it if you put the green thread right and happens to match what's happening subsurface. At that time you'll get the strike right away. So there's an art to reading the stream and identifying the pockets of water where the trout is feeding at that point in time Being able to identify through which season it is. Are they going to be up in the rifts. Or they're going to be laying back behind a rock. Are they feeding subsurface. Are they feeding. You know on the top. There's just a beauty to it for me when you look at nature in order to get into religion but for me mother. Nature is what solidified. There's a higher being right there. It is so perfect and there were so many symbiotic relationships and there are so many things that i've observed in nature where you go. This all can't just be stance right. I mean so. I just love being out you know With my feet in the water. And i don't know what it is. Something so therapeutic about it so i started to get into tying flies right where i don't know if there's anything more rewarding outside of course family than sourcing the materials and actually tying the fly and then getting out on the water and catching beautiful trout on something that you tied that you know has to be so precise We do a lot of fishing up in the delaware because their natural you know the stock easy to to catch easier but these natural fish that are just their whole life is just identifying just smart. Just not right about this thing. Yeah something really rewarding about it. That's my thing there learned today. Yeah that's a smart fish. It is small fish. You gotta respect the fish. Yeah the respect. The fish we be the book. I forgot any book man in the fish the old man and the fish and it was a movie and it was a quote like well you know they. They respected each other and a man in the fish. Why the man catch catch the fish and and kill it. And i said well the man gotta be a man and the fish gotta be fish and i. It's so true. I don't know if you catch and release or not but It's it's a beautiful thing just the nature. And oh i'm getting when you were just talking about. I was picturing the different college in the foliage and everything that they must be around there. And i'm glad extra more about it. There's nothing like that moment when you release the trout back in It's it really is a biblical experience for me. Whenever i don't get out often enough but when i do it's i really really enjoy so. I thought that was interesting. Few taki and for me. It's fishing but but we have to have those things mortgage backed securities the audience. Large portion of the audience won't know what that is. Can you talk us through that. A little bit mortgage backed securities are basically the credit package. I would say the credit package and all the documents that go into the mortgage There are a lot of different instruments Once or mortgages recorded whether it'd be the deed that note the consolidation extension modification agreement. Whatever it may be. It's a big package and It gets quality controlled From the loan offsets at a process that process underwriter underwriter to bank management and then bank management to the secondary market the secondary market is basically where your mortgage is bought and sold and traded. It's just like a security would be traded so these are the notices we get your. Your loan has been sold right okay. So they're selling the paper they're securitising it selling more decorating it. So what we would do. We would grade the paper so just like in school you great. Abcd so the more time that lapses the more obviously you have of a A history of that mortgage so the more the better performing the mortgage the higher the grade whether better credit score the higher the grain the high income and credit score the higher the grade so we had our different buckets that we'd great them into and we would just make sure everything that everything led up to what it added lead up to these days. I there's a lot more intense documentation and back then back. Then i don't even there wasn't even a credit report or the trw for those of you that know dating myself. I swear him now. Fifty my son's thirteen and so we would just basically a quality control it. Great it and make sure that everything that was supposed to be in the package was in the package and if anything's missing We would then backtrack to the proper party. So it could be packaged correctly. So then they're packaging. These notes and miss grated notes is what led to such an issue back in two thousand and eight right. So they're selling these notes you you go and you borrow Keep number simple one hundred thousand dollars from the bank. You take a thirty year mortgage after thirty years. You're paying back four hundred thousand dollars total right. So you're selling Bundles of these. Atta discount to the par value the full value plus plus the full interest to these bigger institutions and essentially. That's the revenue stream and not package for the next x. Amount of years yup correct got it and that's how the bank is then able to bring some liquidity back or lower their ratio right to the able to go out and window f and re resell this again. Okay so sorry then interruption. It's one of the order you explain. That and i'm being honest. I would have spoken with a lot of different so you sandwich shop. You took your seven sixty three twenty four. You're playing around and wall street. You go ahead and again as a true entrepreneur. Would you identify a call center and you guys start hammering the calls day one you get a hit and wears it takes from here a boy i i saw a big big movement to staten island. At the time at the time i lived in bergen beach by big moving to staten island. I wanted to move to staten island and My my office was eighty six street and fifteenth avenue with the call center but all my business was in staten island because people from brooklyn with his island so i started marketing more in staten island. I met an attorney Through a friend of mine and He he was doing my closings and everything and he said. Wow you have good business. Yup good clients yourself. I'm like yeah sure great. I'm like now from the start and back up a little from the start. Being on wall street. I saw companies went public with it. Did and at that time back. Then you know chemical bank chase like different started going publicans like wow on i. I saw on an goal there. As you know we can make something really really big of this thing you know. It's at some point and I had this grandiose idea which i've never felt and i still actually have it It just you know right place right time. We went partners. I want with this attorney. We've got our broker's license We came out the very very strong i mean. He was in saint martin for a month when he came back. The check i gave him was so big. The next day he was on south avenue talking to richard addio about leasing. The first space in the building in electrical while edward cari we took ten thousand square feet We we We don't want people to leave the office. We wanted to work because you know it was. It was doing so well. We put a barber shop in their Lou from continentals on staten island. He had abolished chair and he would come. He would that he got our hair. We had jim in there. We put a jim in Richard addio at the time you know his people were we allowed them to use it and everything So we got a shower. We had lockers. We had no reason to leave the office once again. They gave us the spoofer a for a great deal and the business just kept growing and growing and growing. I you know want be too much further about my partner but you know i was kinda humble through the whole thing. I don't really like the flash anymore. Yeah when when you're a kid it's great. I wanted the brand new car. Whatever but now. I'm more like me with better gas mileage. I don't really care. I'm not racing anyone right now. Driving an f one fifty. I love it. It's the best thing. I've a dodge. Ram baby go try. Try to on this. That and plus my son has challenges. If i the sports visas so we created a mortgage broker. We took the brokerage company from a three people to at one time. I believe we had a one hundred twenty five employees We had steady constant growth Started getting a little bit Political i would say. And i just didn't like the the the way it was going just in gel and personalities aside and people aside you know i always deal with great people but if you know if have if i'm dancing and i go to the right and you go to laugh it might be probably stepped on toes. Maybe we're not good partners for dancing. So i needed to find a new dancer so we we had an amicable Amicable split. I actually went back to where i was previous to. Starting this mortgage broker and taking this Through channels I did take. We turn to broker into a correspondent. Lender we're gonna turn the correspondent lender into a banker so we were going down that path. you know pretty pretty tight But just wasn't wasn't a good mix a for what we had. As far as the partnership went so couple of things there so number one. You were a visionary right to you. Think about how today all the rage is having offices right. Covert of course where drop off dry cleaner service. Fitness centers barbershop that became the campus style. Kind of office became popular in this last economic cycle. So it's a testament to you identifying that early on in your career. Which just i seem to find the more and more talk to entrepreneurs the more and more. They're hitting their marks and they don't even recognize it as they go through the paces and you know on the partnership thing people grow apart right as you. Are you know becoming a young man in your value systems. Form and others value systems form That happens right. And then i could see you know took a little bit of a pause there and i'm sure The those are never easy. I went through one of them here. And i still love him to death john but sometimes you grow apart. Those things happen right just wanted to throw. That sorry interrupted you again. Get back on wall street here. We go john wall street slang and start. I really liked sales. I really liked shaking hands and kissing babies. It was it was just it. it just felt right. I felt at home. And i. I woke up with that passion. I wanted to do it. i just any regret that i have is. I didn't journal of. It should've journal that once in a while i'll think of all man. I wish i would've wrote that down Because the journey is really is really where the love is I had so much so much fun being being broken struggling in the beginning and just waking up with that passion and hunger together and being able to to to to utilize it and there is a reward at the end when a long closes and the people actually know that you work hard for them. And i actually liked the heart loans loans. That people turn away. I would bring in and i would. I would say listen. sit down. this is how credit works. Okay this your credit report. If you would pay this off this of this off you know your score will go up. You gotta make sure you know. And i just explain what credit was. I talked to their account on my yo. They want to buy a house. They're making a hundred and fifty thousand a year. You're right down to five thousand not going to get a house for that. You know you can't have your cake. Any to in some instances. So i school them and that's where all the referrals came from. Because it sounds the best he helped me. Nobody else would and you know i just did it because i wanted to do it. but it just ended up. You know it was one of those things where you do good. You get good did it. 'cause you care yes yes thank you. Yeah i definitely. I definitely do. And it also inhabits russia really could weigh on you Because sometimes you just care a little bit too much. But you know. I i don't and i even said it to a client this morning. We listen i'm sorry. The underwriter jesse was a number. They're looking at sixty miles a day. You're fifty eight that's who you are. You're fifty eight. You're not shovel. you're fifty eight. I changed the name to protect the innocent. Just now so i told you and but but it's true so i'll give it up. They're gonna hit us. I'll tell the coins semi mill steam. Will you just told me. I need to send that to my to my on the and i do it all the time if any gone anywhere on the listening right now. I'm sorry but i have to do it. You have to know what i'm going through. I can't get kicked in the teeth. i take my referral partners very very seriously. I made a business out of answering on my fallen sunday. Night at nine o'clock I don't do that anymore. Not on sunday night. Sunday's my day I know you probably have one now. Too but sunday's my day i i refuse to work. I'll sunday off forwarded to somebody else on my team. Take saturday. i'll take sunday I need that that day For many reasons. So was i said fly-fishing right and so i went back to sales because i loved sales and at the time i started I wrote a guide for my new lawn officers. And i wanted them to to know you know i would teach the class teach the class teach class. I want them have book guide. So i wrote a guide and somebody said hey. You should publish this. I'm like what do you mean. I don't know nothing about publishing publish this book any any all right. Let me tighten it up a little bit. So i ended up a little bit and i wrote a book and i had to come up with a tyler. Komo title Used to tell people. You gotta sell yourself so. The name of the book was sale of south by southwest wollo and I self published book through create. Space company creates base. That was online. And the book actually sold and i probably bought most of them at the time. Sign christmas gifts stocking stuffers. It was an easy read. People used to calm inside love. You buck. I read it on the train. You read the whole book on the train. Like gotta have more pages. So what i did was i kind of. I kind of stopped that book. And i i went and i wrote sale of self volume two and i just added more content than i forgot to put in that book book. The book was thicker. All of a couple of years. Go by the book was moving a little bit a little bit better than the previous book l. son. I got i got letters from barnes and noble. I'm starting to get letters. You sold one hundred thousand copies. I'm getting checks in the mail. Big checks checks making money. I did something that made money like another another avenue. And i was sleeping while i was making money at the time which is really something i love to do when you're sleeping making my that's a beautiful thing. I think that should be everybody's goal. So the book started selling it sold. Its over half a million copies. Are you kidding me. One hundred percent sold over half a million copies. Oh please over facebook. How did you not know a million said the next book. Yes wow i got an award from. I would reward award from barnes and noble once that happened but the promise creates space all my money. They they took the lion's share. They're like well on your next book. You make money. Create space is not around anymore. They were bought by amazon. Okay so after. I published Paying baghdad with sale of cell volume three it was supposed to be Paying back that just sound the bed because which that poor dad. I just thought it was a better tile. Everybody around me said. Let's go with that. I went to had it was. My books. were edited by colleges. College students made it like their class So i'd go to a professor. Listen Once you're edit my book and i'll give you a free copy and you know it's a great thing for a professor teach class at it using the book so we did. We did the third book. And that's where the public speaking came in. And so they were like. What'd you speak about the books. I start speaking about the book. Talent for this You know you're a pretty funny guy. I didn't mean to be funny. it's just you know. I want to keep the crowd going. Like even this podcast. It's so light in here. I i would definitely watch and listen to podcast and every other pockets that you do your awesome okay. Let everybody know that you're awesome for those who don't know you. They may think you're unapproachable. You are you have really an awesome person like you re from the bottom of my heart. I'm not even kidding. You're really good person. You're easy to be around. You're easy to talk to and he's listened to in any case i'm a fan. I what can i say. I'll stalk your instagram. i will but. I like your pulse. I'll try to get in there. A lot of stuff shows up on the feed. Is you know So it's hard I always try to To to pay it back to to the people that i like. And i admire and respect now to get backwards. You're gonna have to add it up a little bit. I'm just ripping baby public. Speaking great i was so scared james. My first public speaking gig was really. Yeah i would think that was natural few now i was at. I'll tell you a quick story. I had to go speak in front of like twenty people at de tomaso cola bankas. This was years and years ago. Frank frank Let me come in and speak. I walked into the room. It was probably the first time i was gonna public speaker. I always wanted to this great. You know but i was gonna talk about mortgages my my sweet spot on one. I didn't have a problem. I walked into stop. Sweating wasn't even hot. I couldn't stop struggling. Wanted to agents there. i love afford. She wanted she retired. She gave me somewhat like. I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't know what's wrong with me. There's something wrong. I can't stop sweating. I mean i sweat all the way through home in the shower. I swear in the shower. I couldn't. i'm telling you. I was scared to all my it was ringing sweat the craziest thing if this was back then i'd be sweating right now. Yes me to keep the wet spots on the arms anyway. So i was petrified. And they do say that public speaking people fear public speaking as much more indepth statistic legally legally. I think it's google that wants so it must be must be true so in any case yes. I was scared to death i prepared. I got the gig through lincoln and it was for the mortgage brokers association of new york. This is great. I'm going to recruit. I'm going to do whatever i have to do and i. I was listening to the public speaker before me. i was looking at public speakers. I was watching them. You know the best of the best i was. I was watching and trying to mimic in my own way. But i got on stage. I had my slides and everything ready. The second i got up there and i and and saw the crowd you know it was my job as the keno to kind of wake them up to kinda wake them up so i said you know what. I'm just golf script. The little and i'm just gonna i'm just gonna shoot from the hip that's it you know. I had some kind of marks. You know had different marks. I wanted to hit for timing purposes. But i just wanna and i myself and i was up there. Maybe five seconds of my biggest fear is that i was gonna come across as this brooklyn guy. This that the other thing and the guy goes. Hey you're a funny guy. And he started he. He was like mimicking me. Like you're getting heckled not heckled not heckled. He was quoting from goodfellas. He drove past you. Some so i turn around and i i would never cursed said. I said hey. Hey everybody shaw. I said why. Don't you go get you shine box. Curse was in the middle. It's online you've i'll show it to you. It's online once you get to athens. Shine by the crowd erupted unspoken. They stood up. They were clapping. It was from this mood sale. And all the way out. Ninety three hundred people not a problem. twelve hundred very close to a tedtalk which i really wanted to do. Thanks colby abby. And that's that's how i made you know. I had had a lot of help along the way and then you never had another issue with public. The public speaking nothing nothing. That's remarkable. Yeah it was that point. That's when it will switch just went off. And i don't know one of my jeans died The sweat gene but yet right then and there. I was able to overcome that fear. Man i ran right into it. Like i said you know what i'm gonna win lose or draw and i won. I won and it was it was it was great. It was on video. And i love that. It was video and really afterwards. I've signed books. I should can't meet a lot of friends have recruited. Some people It it turned out it turned very well. So you have such a presence about you. In the presence of course pours through on your social media channels and i think that That passion and that presence speaks directly to your business and your customers You've got a four point nine nine out of possible. Five on your reviews positive testimonials. Where does that come from. Is that just the passion is that i mean the four point nine nine. We're doing something right. It's patients haitians. Since you listen. I forget to. I'm guilty of it. You take to the next and you kind of carry that phone call now you gotta stop swipe it clean first time homebuyers. That's my specialty. If i'm going to be a specialist in first time homebuyers. I have to start from the beginning. We buying a house. How fuzzed store where your kids going to school. The dog this you know. I sort of you do To some respect. I hold their hand mean half the hold their hand. It's it's a scary process. It's one of their biggest investments if not their biggest investment that they're ever gonna make ideal young couples with now with their grandchildren. I've been in the business but it's it's teaching you know. I've tried videos. I have plenty videos online. I'll send it to them. They'll still call him with the same questions. That doesn't matter but i'll take the time out i'll make the time And then i'll hand it to my team. And i'll hand it to the people that i know are going to going to handle that. Client with white gloves and they. They know that they can always get in touch with me. If having any type of issues as far as the clients go. I have to spell everything out and tell them stop. You know this. Isn't you know you're not jumping three stopped one step at a time okay. This is our goal right. This is where you need to be monthly right of this. How we're going to get there and you do this this and this and stop. Then we'll do this. This and this stop so i i kind of walk them through The process and the first question. What's my rate. Oh my god. If i told you that is the most annoying question with the worst question you could ask you. Because people don't understand how they don't they don't they don't they. Don't you know we're coming into a different generation and They're a little more prone to do their homework. I'll say which is going to be a good thing if they're going to do it all the automated on online at You know three rockets and whatnot and you quickens stock. Went from thirty four dollars to twenty dollars. I bought it somewhere on twenty two. It's a good thing. I hedge myself. What options that's another story. I'm sorry to go topic james. there is no right. there's no top. I like that. And when i was leaving. I'm like i'm going to a podcast. And you're a little aguirre history. All what's the topic. That's that's what they didn't come in gender. I guess i'm just going to have to shoot from the hip she was. You do best. Thank you They get a kick out an up telling ya not. I have a good subject. The pandemic through the pandemic learning my family in the wild is great and them. Seeing me in the wild is great. It gets a little crazy. Sometimes they will disappear. What do you mean in the wild in the wild in my in my element on the phone yelling. God it says talking clients explaining things you know one of my kids say he's pretty smart. She's i didn't know it was a word. And and these are smart. Kids my scholarships ticao. My daughter got a scholarship to My youngest she's doing our master's program now homeland security. she's not going to do anything scaredy. She's an artist smartest kids in. She's homeland security. They don't know when they start she just like he won't even like to see blood for the paid. She's desk here. We go but anyway. She's she's such a good artist. she's right now. I took a bowl of fruit. That i found that she painted that. You call it for me when she was ten years old. I said i want you to make this bowl of fruit. Now you're twenty one. I wanna see what the bowl of fruit will look like now. And i mean i'll show you later on on some pictures she's drawn. She's the kid. The kids got the ability of an artist. To me is all in scale the scale things and have a good for that. I don't have that my mother did. Maybe it skipped a generation. But she's really you know she's going to be the best artist in homeland security. I'm like please sketches. Maybe you know maybe we can work that all together. We don't want to waste the master's degree It'll look good in the frame but we don't want to waste it. God bless a one anyway. I digress my kids my kids. My daughter went daughter. Megan is a reclusive. She's she's very shy. She keeps to herself. She said paul mitchell years back getting her getting her whatever they call it a air license. I forgot the name of it. Yes beautician beautician license. And she's she's great at it but you have to interact and have that sales unis in you. Sure she doesn't have that that outgoing personality so she once again she. She needs to get in her sweet spot and her passion. Her passion is troubleshooting and she should have been the one of homeland security. The other one should should have been the one in cosmetology and be a beautician But it is what it is. Then they'll come into their on their good They know how to focus and the hardest people rushed to coach even as a public speaker. A coach is our own families. Yeah i can't coach them. Because i'm dead. Even you know i. I play hockey with my my son and you know he doesn't remember the days. I was outside for hours shooting pocket. Throwing balls at him and shooting puck to them. You know he's a goalie. I'm a forward so it only makes sense and we play hockey together but a hidden listened to me back then. He listened to me after. I learned after we started playing together hockey because he saw. Hey i can score goals and my thing always before a game. I shoot on him. Because i've come back at scorn towards the end of towards the end of the years but he's he's a really good goaltender. He won the championship with farrell. Is my god. And who's in a half hour overtime you're fouled one. My son was triple overtime with pharrell against saint joe's was only god. Yeah with saint. Joe's he'll come. You forgot it was saint. Joe's pizza very. Yeah we say. Joe pretty sure and we weren't triple overtime so imagine on the father of the goal. Gosh we lose just sweating. I'm sweating and the rink was freezing. And i'm i'm sweating. And i'm like one guy to three. Oh my god. Then he let one in and the other goalie let one instance up and he made that last save. The team knocked him over so hard. He got a concussion. You're kidding oh they down the best concussion of go home little robitussin on he'll be it's so we yeah we get home was on film. We had a party. I mean we got a party. Then we went to lease tavern for the award thing. It was just You know to say i was proud. Is is an understatement You know he. He played hockey. I mean princeton with him playing hockey and it was just You know is proud. Because i'm hockey guy. You know you see your son like that and it just it was a it was a beautiful thing and we bonded and and we started playing hockey together. It was so weird. Gafa forbid you hit you. Hit the goalie twice. What your stick. I'm sorry had instinct comes out. I took the penalty. Don't touch the goalie. The referee everybody in league knows if you call if you ask anyone at fort hamilton. They'll tell you don't touch the gulf south you don't touch it gets it gets messy. It's yup hilton. If someone's touches your child it's on. You hit them too many times and i actually had more respect for goalies after that as well you know. I used to run all the time when i was a kid. When you produces over here we were talking about it before. So he can he get tested. A fact You got the link there and all the ones and twos he skated on the same tar- with the with the with the sioux cap in the middle of the rink. But yeah it's just a father instinct came out but we bonded. I'd go home my wife. What happened and i was like you know hits. How they you get them. We straightened out. But now it's all talk when we play everybody knows and it's a lot easier. It's funny you were talking before about Emceeing you in the wild watch. As the hunter on the seventy. That's what i felt like but well. We talked earlier about right us. You know gleaning that from mom and our kids. Don't have that opportunity right. Because we've both clearly made very conscious efforts to make sure that our kids wouldn't be a product of a single parent household right but in that there are some things that they miss right like we had the opportunity with mom so Of course during covid same thing. My kids get to see dad in full blown. Work worked at work which can be interesting sometimes But just the other day he pushing me on on interest rates and asking me about mortgages. Wait a minute now. The bank is paid back. How much over a period of time so it was. It was interesting. Yeah it was fun to have them see the other side of it and be a far more intimate part of my work life than the whole family than they ever were beautiful. Dorms rhona silver linings. Of what what we've got pull out of this dancing because it's been it's been tough so you build this amazing business you you did something and again talking about vision where banks have you know almost systematically taken any personal service out of the equation right You went ahead and made sure that somebody was not a number right. People want to connect and when you can connect with a professional in that way and they are taking the time that you're disruptor right. That's what you're doing better than anyone in the business and you are better than anyone in the business and and that's so important. People want to connect people are tired of of not getting a person on the other end of the phone anymore. They're tired of being a number. So you've got a great business. You're rocking rolling. Kovic hits what do you see. As as i don't know we emerging this year is it next year is a two years away which your forecast for folks out there in the financing world interest interest rates. I i don't see interest rates rising rapidly in the near future however long term. I mean i may have been saying this for the last five years james. There's you know they're gonna start to creep to right. Yeah but when And if we could predict. I mean not to change subject but the stock market as well stock. I'm watching. I'm watching institutions pullout. I'm watching per private. Investors robinhood guys. Everybody's they're going in. What do you think this. I think you should know it. I like if it's something you use you buy it. If it's no what you're saying but i i won't get into the whole stock as far as real estate goes it's right now. It's a very robust market for me. i do spend a lot of time on the modification and i don't get paid for it It's just service. I do for my clients on my clients family members. I have no choice. We are who we are but but you do have a choice and explain to people what that means the loan modification. Because you absolutely have a choice. Many people. don't do it any if anybody calls me and says they can't pay their mortgage 'cause then working or or they lost all their tenants or whatever the case is you know my heart starts to bleed and it's it's i mean it's that simple. I'm i'm gonna help them. We're going to talk to them and give them their options. I'm going to tell them. What i think is good. What is bad. What if the bank is good if they're bank is bad What's been other people's outcomes with those banks. What a short sale is. A foreclosure is should they be scared as the sheriff gonna come and throw miata. They're gonna put my stuff on the show. It's it's scary. And they scare me. And i'm like wait. Let me let me call. And i'll give you business now. You give me some free advice from for my for my friend's friend some people. I don't even know that just from facebook's can you help me. Yeah you know it does hurt a little bit knowing that they could it came to me and then they went to chase sure and then chased an them and came back to me and i got the loan done but you know but it's it is it. It is what it is. I'm hawaii and i'm not going to compromise that for nothing and You know if. I can help them gonna help. If i can't help i can't help. I mean this. Sometimes i'll say i just i just can't help you but here's somebody who can know. I'll give them an attorney's number if it comes to that But for the most part of through. Colbert i've been blessed to be able to work from home. I've been blessed with a great a great team as as well as a team could function under these circumstances and the bank is breaking records breaking records right now because people are home working that were. I'm getting emas four o'clock in the morning we're going back and forth this morning. Four o'clock him. I had a client tell me today. She's like you sent me that foreign morning. I'm like yeah. But i expect you to read it for a moment. You woke up norm. I don't wanna wait to send them trying to go through my business and you know from four to seven. I was doing emails. I took a little nap and freshened up. I knew i was coming here to and i how to go out to jersey to. I'll actually go to closing by the way. How many more guys that do that. But if somebody needs me there and they want me there and they gonna feel comfortable. You know what. I started the ride hug. Stay on the. I'll stay in the car. Which until we got there good man. I don't like it. But i'll do it I'll do it. Especially if it's ex politely. I don't like routing nasty people and if you're nasty me i'm going to get rid of nasty back and it. Just it's just it's i don't do it intentionally or consciously it just happens because i'm doing a service view if you're going to be rude to me i i've fired clients before and it's so liberating he's i'm sorry i can't help you go some else. I had a client recently about three months ago. I don't want to go somewhere else. I wanna use. You listened the amount of time. You're stealing from me and the amount of money i'm going to make is is probably one hundred. I have a pipeline that i have to attend to. I can't talk to all day every day about the same redundancy. it's redundant. It was the same thing over and over and over and over. I want twenty one twenty two. it doesn't exist party. If you've found the place that exist go there lease and then just pass me the name. 'cause i wanna work there too you know. And that's how the compensation ends up I don't even remember what we started. Well what we're talking about going the extra mile people being number and that turned into all of the different things in the disrupters that us make you who you are. Goldline da and that ties into What i wanted to touch on next and believe it or not like. It's like crazy that i wanted to talk about your your philanthropic efforts. Something else that has just been synonymous with your name your out in the community everywhere you you do an amazing amazing job giving back One thing in particular. I want to talk about was the american cancer in the work. You've done there the marathon you know. When did the homework it well. I've heard this story before. And we had touched on it briefly a couple of weeks ago at one of the events and it just wanted if you would be so kind as to share that story. Insure the injury and the whole thing. Well the the first marathon. I ran my brother-in-law was he was He he my brother-in-law john we played we played softball together mu younger. He actually got me into softball. I play hockey and softball. Usually on the same days and He was athletic. he'd loved. He loved the sports. You know he was the fans ranger fan you we i think the only thing we shared i think it was a mefin into but anyway he passed away from lung cancer because the motor neurone. He passed away from cancer. And i wanted to do something you know. Memory in memory of hit the family really hard he actually Same houses us leading up to that time. He worked for department sanitation. He was doing. God's rocking all cylinders. Great guy to greg guide big heart. My daughter's godfather All that stuff. So i was i was. I saw the american cancer society. An old town. Roy said You know let me walk in. Let me see. If i can do anything i walked in there and i met. I met a lady michelle She was at the front desk. And i said hey. I want to get involved american society. What can i do. And she said we have a business council. You could join the you know the business council. I think you'll fit right in at the time at the same time. Doing research research research came across this thing that the american cancer society had it was called team determination. It was raising money through athletic events. I wasn't an athlete other than hockey and softball. I was in decent shape and not great cheap. So i i did. What any Anybody would do. And i joined the marathon determination. And how's it going. I'm gonna join team dermot. I'm going to raise money and now get this business council. We'll talk to and we could do it. I met this guy joke. Avello corey shift from ca sal. I met some of best people. There i will mention all the news because they weren't the best people that but i met some of the best people there at the american cancer society and the business council and we started talking mar. Yeah the fly rancid two blocks yesterday. I'm on a roll. I started with one block. I did two blocks. That's actually how i really did train. I train one two three tried kept dublin. Dublin doubled before you knew what was up to eighteen. Thousand nine hundred. I was hitting the mark that had hit for the marathon. So i said you know what we do with this team. How do we raise my time. Had a reason why like well. You can use facebook social media. You could do pie sales this that other thing so i oh i i could get pies. Went to perkins. They opened their doors wide open. They gave me pies. I went to all these different places. Everybody donated my kids make cookies. I turn my mortgage office into a bakery at the time and Yeah people came in we soul cakes business from it. I didn't want to but it just came Wanted to get the pie so we got the pies. We sold them at a low price. There was a donation and every some good. We raised one point one million dollars a year for the american cancer society and team determination. They called me up one day. They said hey. Can you get to city hall. We need you to go to sydney. We need you to go to city hall. I'm like what. Am i going to do. City hall where we know you could speak. We want you to speak. So i'm like all right. I'll go to city hall. I had a suit on. I want to pick my wife. They want me to see who i'm like. I don't know what they want for. I is crowded people. There is a podium setup with the may thing on and everything at the time i think is is bloomberg you see the bloomberg or julianne. Whoever was he ended up coming there. There's bloomberg yeah. This is bloomberg So they they call me. And this is spanish congressman there and nobody that i knew at the time now. I know everyone. I love to call a job. Rally all those guys. They're all friends of mine. They're all good people. I love my local politicians for the most part. So i stand there and i'm like i got to talk about okay so it was basically. They were lobbying to have. Smoking stopped in parks public parks and on the beaches so mike. I'm training because my brother-in-law died of lung cancer. And i'm running down the beach. I'm running through cloth clove lakes or whatever park i'm running through and i have to run through plumes of smoke it. I don't think that's right. And there was a child next to me and i turned around i said. Do you think it's right for this child that that could be on a beach or a park with his mom. He's got he's got to take that in knows if that'll make him smoke one day or make him sick hand. You know all this other stuff now. This is coming from. I smoked when he was younger. I i smoked when i was younger. My mom my mom actually died because she she had. I keep bringing the room down guys. Turn this up so that made me stop smoking so anyway. So i spoke and i. I got great results. They invited me to I think it was channel seven at the time. So i got invited to be a member of the team's termination to go on on channel seven. Was this all pre sweating. Oppo sweating your sweater. I'm no longer swapo. No sweat sweating anymore. Beautiful sweating anymore. I go to seven online. Guy comes being online. This is the line to watch the show. Oh cool i'm standing determination captain and they bring me in rachel. Raise their cooking. And i'm like. Oh wow this is great awesome of your food. You know. And i met met her and i met all the people this stuff snuffing his step novelist. I met him and I actually call them that he didn't he didn't find it find. They have no sense of human. None of them. I'll say right here. I love chuck scarborough. That's it and greg kelly. That's all two people i met from. That are actually on the news so turn it up a little bit. I i started doing at the same time. Also a radio show in new jersey at rutgers was on. am who's called money matters. I think something like that. I did that for six months just to to my portfolio. It's my resume. So the american cancer society back to that so we did our first fundraiser. We call it evening the stars and we did it at the south vin. They hosted their. And let me tell you something. Ownership of that place opened their doors wide open for us and not. They wasn't friends to this day. Such good people big hearted people we raise so much money. we have chocolate fountains. I mean it was a great event. It was really great event Friend of mine. Who sings frank. Sinatra's their russ monsieur russ. I know you're gonna listen to this and watch this. But russia's they're singing everybody donated their time and their money. Their efforts is it was blood. Sweat and tears basically Fifty fifty raffles. It was it. Was it a great night. And it was called evening under the stars and We did we did. Very well with that We did a comedy show. Their cousin vinnie's where. That's where i i met a victory potato Once again that's another great guy donate his time. Like three times often american kansas slide in us and he kept the crowd roar and So i created a relationship once again with With with the gentleman and the women at the american cancer society and the the american business council Then i could for a little bit. I guess too sandy. Sandy hit and I got a call from murky cancer society. There was a house that was flooded and they need help. So i was like all right Rally the troops. So i called the people business council someone said yes some of them said no what i could say joke abell and corey shift the said yes as they always do they always do and my son and my son said yes. And i'm sorry and tom pellegrino can't forget him So i had a plumber. I had trish idaho crew me. We went to. This house was old people. These two old old elderly people people. I'm an old people so we went to his home l. e. people the johnny couldn't speak yet one of those the voice box. Yeah he had major problems. The basement was flooded. The electric was on tough parks. Yeah tough times. We went in there. Like gangbusters sheet rock crew everything. We got the water out. We got the furniture out. We got the mold out. We got everything out. We redid the property we through the couch. I got him a new couch. This was all one day. We went into like else on christmas eve. And i'm so proud of them. I was so proud of me Good as that's one notch for anything you might done right. I think we might have got back in good favor. We all did a lot of good door and sandy. Your listen i did. I know relationship with your brother. Bama tell you story about that a jump into a real quick. So i'm out there and and i'm working hard and a guy comes over to me are my shovels. I'm like what lewis show you stole myself proper. Ceo since then. It wasn't a shovel's from the angel. Landis office convinced. I was like okay. Take the shovels holy shit. I'm sorry to be a little bit. Then he was. I don't wanna find him. You know about the shovel shovels. Take them green handles. I still have hundreds of them. I got from liza cool anyway with remember. They were wrapped in paper in brown peop- But he did have the same show. I'm not gonna like this. I see how he might have thought that but he was totally wrong. I sit up corners. Dif- different corners during sandy. And we just tables out food food. You know paul from nicole's office. He she he was the chief of staff at the time forgot his last name. Great guy paul. He called me up and he was dispatched me and my team. We had a whole squad. And if i didn't have a square put on facebook. Need help supplies at this place and people will come in man mask and was like this is so beautiful they just rallying and then tobacco was on guy rescue and we all coordinated efforts each other and then i did something. That was really really You to me i. I told everyone on team to terminate. We had so many people come in for the marathon that year. Now this is the year the marathon was canceled. All these goods and supplies. We had all these people here. I rallied everybody to to meet at a certain part. I thought him you have one hundred people. I'm telling you. i had three hundred people if i had one. They got off the train at the same time. My son snapping pictures. I was walking down the forget. I was walking down down highland boulevard all these people behind me and we just grabbed supplies. We've fanned out once again. Guy in rescue had all the stuff out so we were really prepared for the worst and we canvassed the area and we use the energy. We use the supplies for the for the people in the neighborhood. You know people magazine. They came to my house that night. I was still tied. Listen people magazine comes to my house. I'm going to do an interview regarding that night. I i didn't do it. I didn't do it. I wouldn't i. I can't come back tomorrow if you want to talk to me. I i think it was. It was a little dive ago but anyway we were rallying in so many people sort online that it started creating a it started creating a life of its own. Yeah you know. And we call ourselves. Determination determination and people were sending gift cards and and supplies and we just couldn't get enough of it. You know obviously towards the end of that this was i mean this is about four months. We were doing this for four months straight. I wasn't gonna work anymore. Say about staten island. We mobilize for each other when the chips are down. And and you you gotta get the fox hole you want to be in this one right here. Yeah because we do mobilize for yes. Yes no doubt about that guys that i've only chore in suits and i stare coming out of holes full of dirt. Cory cory full. everybody was all in. You don't have to. I don't have to go into that. Yeah everybody was all in. And i met these people from Texas they came down the asmat suits on and we were in a really bad molded house. It was unsafe to live in but the people who living there they had nowhere to go. It was disgusting. Anyway so we. We mobilized everything and just to fish forward when texas got hit with the storm. I said listen. It's time for some payback. And i was like. I'm only i'm going to do is if i say it across facebook. I'm gonna texas on bringing them good supplies money. Who wants in the next day new york ones. They're vance's their supplies filling up in the parking lot of my office and harrison schwartz. I'll mention your name harrison. Even though you left me went to arizona. He's in wit suck. He's hess family had zona. So he's out there doing mortgage lending now. We drove thirty. Four straight hours to texas. Or i'll say he drove thirty four straight hours to texas. He was he was down a five hour. Energy drinks like they were shots of tequila and We got there. We set up a women's prison and we gave out this big trailer of goods. Fresh water supplies. We will only give it to places like bouma bolt beaumont and a little areas that warm receiving supplies we actually snuck past few checkpoints because they were stopping people from going going there but we knew that we we knew people there so we knew that they weren't getting the supplies that they need so long story short. We paid back taxes. So we're even right now. Look there's a there's a common theme here right. Your passion bleeds through in everything you do. You don't do anything halfway. you do everything. A hundred and fifty percent and that rings through in your philanthropic efforts Which again they're synonymous with your name. and in the beginning of the show. I talked about in. Staten island is thankful for. Believe me when i tell you how of all things. I'm most proud To to call you a friend now because you you're just a different guy man. You are a wonderful person and you bring that tremendous energy into absolutely everything that you touch so for me. It's been a blessing to get to know you. And i not to cut you off but that does come from you to be honest. Well it's the truth you've moved me and many different ways so i'm good stuff man. Look where we're already running over an hour. What's the best way for people to get in touch with you folks want to an people if you need a mortgage. There is nobody better. And i've dealt with all of them in my twenty two years doing twenty five years. You will not get anyone who cares more than sal and his team and that's just where it starts and it stops so we get in touch with you. Well on instagram salvator. John chris wollo. I'm on facebook. Obviously very facebook. And now i check my emails and kidding kindergarten. I don't t don't. I tried to hide that people love that morning. Take my hat off. they could just go to get approved by sal dot com. That's my website. Get approved by south dot. Com has nothing to do with anybody else. It's just straight to me. So i can get to know the person it's Get approved by sao dot com and I do have a lot of youtube videos. One of them. Has i think as much as eight views. Soham really rocking them. That twenty years. That i've been doing it on youtube well. My great streep migrate treats the worst j. c. You gotta you gotta watch some my old videos. You will not stop laughing. I was like this like ralph kramden. Homina homina it was terrible. It was really really tried. And the inflammation still is good on there but yeah i mean i put my number all over the place could have you know if you wanna crank. Call me go right ahead. i'll just block the number in future. That's my had the same phone number for twenty five years on never rid i just this phone the phone to work everything it yup. That's it don't lose this number because generational it's for me you know. My son is lone officer as as well as a streamer. He's a licensed officer and he's he's he's actually pretty good at it. He's already get approved by salvage. That's the best way yup. All right look we can go on for hours. And i'd love to pick this back up again. Thank you for the time today. You for inviting me. Thank you for who you are. You again. If you don't know sow hopefully you'll have the opportunity to to get to know. Sal he's just one of those guys. It's been an absolute blessing for me and i look forward to continued collaboration. Seem here and honestly for some of my follows. I want them to please know that. This is not just the mutual admiration. Society is actually. No this is actually real. Talk is a real man. Come to my real family and he really good things for not only the community but for for for philanthropic efforts as well and it's been my pleasure to be here and just glad to be out of the house to as well and if you ever want to do par to on in hundred sent. Thank you so much. James i appreciate you and i appreciate everything. Cassandra property stands for. Thank you sir. Love you and Everyone out there holidays are coming. Let's be smart and make sure We all stay safe. Okay catch on the next one.

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20190705

Brethren of the Lord Jesus Christ

24:41 min | 1 year ago

20190705

"Hello san doing it a little video along time ago called the cristiano drunkard spirit and a a christian drunkard spirit and this video some someone find this video offensive and some gonna do in a part two of this you know because i want to to update what i think is true i here because i don't think everything in this video is is correct ideal living but what i want to say is that i do believe that a good statements you know i do believe this statement that shouldn't be listening to advice or shouldn't be let those says be led the in in any form by by some let's say saved christian that is in habitual seen in he's in deep could be chosing like kim drunkenness and i think their own face no that that the the bible doesn't have less to to be be led by the to allow such along to you know leave dollar oh our us you know obviously we should by net led by lord jesus christ but but them a a let me say what i wanted to say about this let's first go to one currency in five and you have here what it says i wrote down to you in this is not the company for nick cage is not yet not altogether with a foreign k to solve this wall the border the covered this or excuse or executioner or with other doctors for than my student needs to go out to the world but it's you know it's impossible to to another company and we've seen her to commit these ten if you listen to what the new must isolate yourself in some way and you know we you know we can't top that kind of demands on people that they're calling to see if indeed lunch when you know because you you you have to to to work there so many people have to work and so on so but when it comes to christians to professing christians who committed these in habitually but now i've written onto you know the company and if any man that he's called abroad there'll be a four and a cake recovered disorder either left or raider or drunkard or and extortion or wins that one no not to eat for what am i did it to judge them also that are without do not see judge them that are we dean but then that are without god judges therefore put away from amongst ourselves that we could person so you see here that paul talks about judging christians who commit the c m i b truly say it's not talking about so brother that commits they sit and that we are now to eat with them obviously also means that we should not allow allow that device you know should not let their device to to a team flint's those you know i do not let them delete us and say you know a and i said in that video and i you know i i stand foster that that if you have fellowship with a brother that is a christian and he's drinking alcohol at the time or is he says when when when he has finished preaching that he has a dry mouth and it needs to to to to get this dry mouth a you know to get some to drink alcohol or you might say i need to take a drink for my dry mouth you know to take a drink you know the truth is that you could drink water for a drink the drink if you buy a drink means actually i drink like you're whiskey or involved call whatever you you know if he needs to that for dry mouth and then you don't need the you know the take something for dry mouth of the water if your mouth is dry after having talked to a long time but if you need alcohol to to help your dry mouth and that that's not talking about dry mouth that's talking about that you have a you know sin problem them or or you know baylor problem that you need that alcohol for your mouth m n them as a christian you know so how should we you know i think one way good way to to talk about this with about let's say that christian and this person contacts you continuously and this person is deep insane for example he said drunkard then i think one good way to deal with this is simply to say why should i take advice from another christian that is not living in right himself and i think that's a good way because the polling terry's doesn't say here that these people are are on saying it doesn't say so it just says that which allow god to judge them rather than if we fellowship with them we are kind of being partake in their scenes you see because we are allowing them we're giving them new york's and you know except and by having fellowship with them these are moved to multiple reasons why we should not do that runway reason is we are we they will allow them to influence us negatively you know by by and the christian broncos spirit i talked about a so the question is is there another spirit 'em and then you know a christian that he's saying he's seeing by the holy ghost if that person that for something becomes a drunkard he doesn't mean that that person and loosest the holy ghost robert quinn shifts the holy ghost is quenched in them so it doesn't he's not allowed to be strong so a such a more speed at least in them apart from the holy ghost there might be another space they might just be the flesh flash of the person or or whatever could there be another spirits yeah i i guess that could i dunno if saxton eat as if it could be processed by by any will spit by unclean spirit or so but the point is here that damn the bible tells us the to put away from us that the weekend thing that person that is could be saved you know brother doesn't say sister here so it's about demand assayed brother that he said drunker put that away from us and that means that we should not eat with them and i think it also means that we should not take that vice you shouldn't have see them as advisors and you're gonna look going back to see what the bible says about in atlanta that if he says anything involved in line editor so let's see here let's see let the initial knew who knew when it'd be comfortable at the domino special day labor in the world and dark train 'em and if we did a okay so maybe it was way too that it is it is mentioned there's a common somewhere about a wine i think in the end when regarding an editor in the new testament in might be bishop and so my question is where is this an m at and being drunk with wind where new sanctions but he's created with this would not give into wine will strike and let's see here but usually through wind for your stomach's at here yeah it's about the bishop ford bishop must be blame that says a steward oh god not settled with knocked soon angry not given to wine no strike given to fifth avenue through so given to why that's a drunkard you see so it's clear here that nandor or bishop in this case bishop is not allowed to be a brother that it's a drunk and that specifically stated in the bible so when it comes to a device could be advising in you know in the face i think is is this they did that we should not take advice from a christian drunkard so i think this escape generally supportive both from bonn quoting in five and the lost sources the one going to five and and or so from a teacher swan seven no that basically so that's what i wanna say about the christian drunkard spirit now i made a video before called the piston drunkard spit it stay long lied and it's possible to to to watch this video so i make this video park to christian drunkard spit park to because i want to this this period some homeless offended by this video and i think they're offended thing in this video was i said there that could you be cursed by taking advice from the christian drunken spirits and i think i was referring to solving who a a solemn he a what did he do now that he took it took advice from a familiar spirit but that will someone there was a woman who was into divination divination i think and who helped him with a he wanted to talk to sam meal so he she called upset me so you could talk to her you know samuels a dead the dead profit and a a so i made the point that could be that you get cars by taking advice from a familiar spirit no i mean by a because god said god how has that against statement says god held two things again psalm and these two things were that south has you know taking otherwise from the spirit or and the south had them thinking i'm not don what god disad you have sacrificed instead of doing what god said you know and that's like yourself where christians who will do what god says pass into my druthers tried do things his own way you know an them you know back then i i did have might differ a different kind of all theological understanding or in fact i i just i i don't have had in that deal you could understand relive that oh just using the bible to to 'em 'em you know as a form of speculation all coming to a conclusion about things so what i would say now i don't think that you can get cursed by a you know taking advice from a christian drunkard you know i don't think so but but because you could you you don't get saved by christian here on earth you know you could save by or diesel by over faith in jesus christ so it's kind of it's kind of rome to to suggest that but i'm going to leave the video up their stay on because i think that that this is a question that them interesting simply because of a few reasons one one of these streets and he said there are people i found out i realize that there are people online who are against the chargers who have some promo habitual same problem that are kind of going them in trouble with the churches you know for some reason and i'm not saying these are unsaved people but for some reason they they have the same problem in that dome yeah they have the same problem on and they and they focus on the chargers are wrong and that are on the wrong things in the church is you know and searches are not necessarily wrong by saved a crease students you know so i'm not but i i've just noticed that may be some thought i've been thinking about because i noticed when i when i was in initial on you to i noticed that some of these people who were you know on you to they they were into drinking a lot of alcohol and they believed on the lord jesus christ whatever or you know or they profess that some you know some i might not have been saved a some of these people were saved i believe that's how much should you john solomon salvation yet we i think we should decide on people's salvation because it's a big difference if someone he's part of the body of christ or not how we should treat them according to the bible efficient fellowship with them the fourth best false breath and so on so absolutely we should not you know you should just certain people salvation but we should also disown and that's what i wanna talk about the christian gronk good spirits or do i have to say about this but i don't think we should've i think we should do what the bible says in the bible says care a brother that is a drunkard that we should not have company wouldn't hit and that means not fellowship and i don't think that we should you know take advice from them or or that doesn't mean we can we can meet their advice and come to conclusion safe that's correct or so but if someone brother dates drunkard contact us and demand that i that we do something something that he says we should do i don't think we necessarily have to do that because you know their advice he said vice might not be the right advice to take you know it's just that he's not living right tim south so why shouldn't be why should i listen to what he has to say why should i follow his advice if he's not leaving right now so that's why i wanna say about christian drunkards you know some of them are or might very well be saved you know and on their way to happen but doesn't mean that's what we should listen to what they say or or or take the advice of federal shape but i think the bible is clear we should not fellowship with them that's one in five and also want teaches a horse it now let's see why teachers one seven makes it clear that you know we should not see the mess as a as bishops a in a you know and bishops as some kind of position all all the respect in the world i guess shorts or so or whatever in the congregation and that's not then all because they are it says here that the bishops and not not given to widen no striker acumen to feel feel so we see that that is the case and said is simply the truth that shouldn't fellowship with a christian drunkard you know and when it comes to a device you know if let's say a brother drunkard has a a shadow on you to ban contingency put out videos and i sit there and listen to him shouldn't that be possible that i get a bad influence from that a because you know it says that no bishou should be given to wine and i think that means alcohol given taco in general so you know they know the bishop and we shouldn't see the mets we could see them as a brother in christ priced absolutely 'cause they are they may very well essay brother in christ but doesn't mean that we should listen to take their advice you know neither maybe should we fellowship with them if they are engaged given to wine that that could you know look i don't know what if there's a difference between given to wine and being a christian drunkard i i get that could be a difference difference of the degree there because drunkard could bring more vine then someone given to wine but i know but it's clear that we shouldn't fellowship with a christian drunkard you know brother that he said drunker that's clear according to the bible and you know if if a christian drunk denise against it says you know there's videos offensive you are not allowed to put out a video that says something negative about the christian drunkards spirit or whatever now the bible doesn't specifically say that the christian drunk rub rub that they said drunkard has another spirit or nineteen spiritual something like that and i think that we as christians should not follow her brother here on us we should follow lord jesus christ and we should have a role in connection with jesus christ so you know the christian drunken spirits could that course you and i think yeah they'll answer is no in the sense that a but you know you could be come partake without overall while the scenes scenes when you eat the way the socialized through the bible says we should not eat with them you know christian drunken but it doesn't say they are having now the spirit of god carson stuff i do i think that it says in the bible that the holy ghost advises us not to have fellowship with them and that i think means also that you know we can have our doors locked for for for christian drunkards you know so if they if they have a ten if they come to our house you know when they come to our house and enter how rouse when we're way you know it's better to how our door locked out so that they can't do that you know if if there someplace in drunkard who doubts that you know it seems like we shouldn't do that we shouldn't have you shouldn't do let them because that's the way to also fellowship to let the have you know so i think that there is some some information in the bible about this thing which is true so our our acquaintance in that in that sense what i mean by that is that he's a person does not profess to be a drunkard no i mean if the person that's not the profess to be a christian and he said drunker than we can of fellowship you know he says in the bible but if they profess i believe in or jesus christ they are it's a man and that person is a drunkard then scare we should not have fellowship with them which should not have company that person so we have to distance ourselves from and i also think it's k we should not take their advice will see their advice advice in the lord since excessive bishop cannot have be a given to wine so i think there are these statements in the bible and i do believe the word of god is true eighty seventeen sixty nine so i do believe this to be true so but the old some almost offended by this video called christian drunken spirit i decided to make part two of this video now the show my position that is not changed now i have no plans to remove the initial video a christian drunkard space instead of making park to to clarify where i stand today regarding the christian drunkard and how we should feel how we should relate to a christian drunker is he noticed you i'm not saying that a christian drunkard that this person that's not the way to heaven he might very well be on his way to heaven but the you know his life is something between himself and god and we should not seem bowl ourselves through federal ship or through having company with him

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Turnbuckle Tabloid-Episode 144

"Warning the views and expressions given by said podcasters and said podcast L. abuse of only Tabloid and not related to anyone related roadworks or rage works network. Parental discretion is advised me. Lloyd and Fuck turnbuckle. Todd would buckle tabloid off even regardless of what goes on during our weekly use of wrestling. I should like this the a long week week of wrestling every day. It still boils down to we. Start the show. What the fuck -ociety talking about what they're doing? And and now all of a sudden he's talking about dropping pants you too motherfucker parental discretion. Even to this day. We got to think about what society is GonNa. Now we're talking about a big woman's ass at a fucking basketball game. Yeah Lizotte the fucking basketball game. I'll FRY as thank yuna sight to behold the worst part about that is the fact that. Hey How's this is Ryan Davis Comedian. And he says it's not the fact that she's as nothing to do with that trying to be an attention seeker. Not only that. It's if if you look horrible in the outfit you look whether you skinny fat whatever you look horrible in a fucking outfit and I just think it was a fucking stunt this it gets off because she wanted to fucking fucking daddy issues and wants to get it off a fucking chest. I need attention. Somebody loved me. Interview grabbed the fucking thing and she said I wear what I want bitch. It's like okay ban you from the arena. Because you're naked as on a fucking share which out that shows everybody's eighty million everybody's going to go to the arena Nabi like is this little chair because I don't want to sit in this year so so creepy white guys on the front row. This guy was gonna be like. I don't sit solicitor. Oh this is like this episode. Whole Tedi Lynch? Yeah I found those chair me. Come on like who gives a fact that they've they calling her as the equate equate a equating to Ricky's ass that one the week by the way. That was a win for me. I won the week so it was like yo Bro Weather. Why are they comparing Elizabeth Asteroid? Which I fucking love it? I fucking loved every second of that one but honestly Just when I sit there and I I think that we're we're GONNA probably lift ourselves possibly get us up to a level of of class sort of standards around his standards. We we get asked sheiks at a fucking basketball get come on man of property pro likely could have been there behind her exactly south proper negative perfectly. Keep keep lowering. The Bar for ourselves just keeps getting worse South Park episode where they said the N.. Were like a a hundred times not a hundred times. Oh it was the episode where Randy Moss was on the wheel of fortune and said people who annoy you and it was an ed blank and the answer was Naggar. Oh how he said the other one. Oh so he had a politics of the black community for that. And by Papa apologizing the leader of the black community one in the case. He's going the Cedar Larry's the episode was. This is the season finale best. Last night I was watching the fact that that show is still because has been based on pop culture. Yeah episode speaking of wrestling wrestling a few episodes ago. That one of the episodes was macho. Man Randy savage changed his gender to now become part of the women's Olympics and he destroyed. He won first place at everything. And someone was like a macho guy he goes. Are you assuming Mike Jen he was. I'm moving Danny and does people do they not know that Much was is dead. Yeah exactly like it's a cartoon they could bring people back from the dead. I guess they brought Michael Jackson back from the dead call. Yeah okay okay. I can see that happening. So much. Man was like He was winning all the women's Olympic show which Let's fuck Larry's show I watch all right. I'm watching South Park Rec morty catching about rick and morty season flooring Looking at every everyone keeps Ryan this mandatory wave. I have not caught up. Have you caught up on the mental. Well I think so too. Go Up to six. I think I have seen five and six house. Maybe Iota from what I even before. He's he's fine by the way the difficult pop is coming out in February. No may may May. I was thinking about which Dan they really didn't. They really didn't guests at that populist the character's make wage couldn't think of the toys earlier exactly like there. There's like there's some things where they come a month and they're already at the toys prepped yielding. Those will be a money maker. The definite like what the fuck that they should keep that the day the fucking one dropped. I ordered I ordered a fina ready. Actually when all the two of them good good I was looking. I was looking for usually at the end. It was sold off appears to keep refreshing it. Yeah I got I got a finally. I jumped on a fucking bandwagon for all you hype. I am actually. It looks really good. It was any apartment. Did you see that. There's a there's a action figure of triple H and has them spitting the water and it's like dunning. Yeah Yeah it's like a statue. I don't know if I would want that though good around. I don't know I would want it that. If you press the button it spits. Yeah yeah a prank frank or some shit. Yeah that data would take. They have a bunch of new W. E. POPs coming out actually You were talking about it. We've been the MS go pop. I would want to nominate Johnson plus our your favorite Megyn. Oakland what's your Paul Deaf. We should put them right here with the Mike. He'll be next to me. Yeah no he's on him and Al Bundy should be right next to you over their misery right next to me so mike in front of him make him talk he means you. Do you think makes you fucking fucking every time images before jumping job at fucking parking which You know we still do in this state but the holidays are coming up and I was just wanted to mention. The holidays are coming up at the FUCK DOC in two two thousand nine hundred nineteen is done. None of the fucking decade is older. Yeah no more no more. No more than two tens the all new twenties Baba which which I do want to make a cutting a promo By next week before the tabbies of what we expected wrestling in twenty in the next decade. or it's going to be horrible. which is going to be a lot of Trovada suicide dives a lot of gimmicky gimmicks. which are problem with Elliot tank horrible double wrestling fans Shaded and had a new show called an tons of resting podcasts. A lot of them. Yeah millions which will fail laughed like eight episodes when he realized that it's work which by the way we're on episode. Forty five hundred fifty. Oh Oh my I dunno independently and we'd be consistent every week because I've been doing tabloids. Four Technically Temple the tabloid is probably one hundred percent. Not even maybe three hundred episodes and because I was doing anywhere. TRS As regular season so temporal. Kutab may have been living officially for over two hundred fifty episodes. And it's still going strong me. Yeah almost three hundred after stronger every week actually actually have a guys. I hope you've got to check out last week's episode of Pinky. Pinky was actually really fucking cool man. He's awesome back though who me yeah you. I was really gone all week. He's missing book you this. I understand you had school. You've got finals finalists. Hell out here is done fighting on my the money to go really. I thought it was done only classes. All Week have been held. Its been terrible. I had a record of video and put it on Youtube which I'm not telling you Lincoln. You're going to violate me. I'll come on. I have I had. I had to do a project and like talk with a suit on and she'll walk. You know. No No. I'm not saying I'M GONNA show no no. You can't do that. I sat there and expose all my embarrassing fucking moments on going to you. I'll tell you I'm not fuck you up on the Mike. I've exposed everything that I have done. Yeah but had I wrestling though this has nothing to do with a meal my restaurant concept you gotta give me like a snippet. I was just wondering he talk right. I WanNa hear if you being on the Mike for this long has helped you to to progress as a speaker. Okay look it up but can we show a few snippets. Sure Okay thank you. That's all it's called. The final project is sports zone. No public I made an ESPN zone restaurant. Oh okay we listen to our friend and I used to love going there actually was awesome so ESPN wisk drunken troops with kids and get drunk. That's living the dream moment please. That was awesome so I made a hurricane your take your Your both ESPN ESPN cards. Go Play Video Games and I'M GONNA be on the second floor so I made it so like. Instead of Arcade Games simulators support communists upstairs. So I'm surprised you didn't bring back on wwe restaurant. I didn't think about that. You should take. That would have been awesome which I didn't think at the moment because that was it's kind of like half actually the class at school but if you WanNa play it sure Oh my God. I won't do and I will do next week. Oh definitely and we already graded now. Now he didn't read it. Okay I'll I'll wait to graded so now so they're not gonna I could break it out and understand why you didn't get an AOL. aww I play the Elliott D. or some shit like that. I got a suit and everything I had to wear a button up in a tie host I had to just professionally quotes. Where did you do that my in my room? Oh well how long was it eight minutes. I'd be six to eight so I was chatting Louis where we did like eight and a half. Why Come Hump to me? Because I didn't last minute it was due yesterday and I did it like this does morning calm I can. I was in a rush. I woke up shit. I forgot to do this. I didn't know we had to do this. I didn't know we would have put the whole razzle dazzle on been awesome. The back Greece great year brought it to me. We'll fucking punk Isaac of all all we gotta Lotta Shit like eighties retro like Bernie Commercials Xactly you want to go back to the do you. ESPN's now good. I'm good now So Yeah I call it the sports zone Serbia's penzone which isn't civil. I didn't care I every other say Generic mice hair and then we'll spore warlords. autozone who am I my chandeliers organ like the centerpiece of the room is the big sports. The big score carbonate honesty all the different sports scores and she's like Oh okay and every time McCain people were like the siren went off that like the O.. Once oh that's not bad. I WanNa Games finished the best thing for you. I put one of your favorite homemade dishes issues on my menu. which is your macaroni and cheese and chicken wings? ooh And I called I. I called it the home I called it. I call it the home. Run especially with me. so what you did there agent fucking see. I'm getting wet at best talk for my professors so I would be really would love that. You've done this in your house and you had the button down with a tie with no pants on. I did I record. I know parents on the scene. Like my fucking like the boxers. Oh Shit I can't Doodo there and they were like blue go. Can't pull that off so it looks. I tried I tried. Excuse me Mathew Pants on. Why are you're just pets? Fruit of the loom. It's They have this all just pants managing but I tried my best and I gave my idea made a menu. I did my restaurant concept and I did the whole nine yards for two full files kicked ass all we broke next week and then my last days. Tuesday Tuesday's done. I'm don got a long run. Man Listen Lesser. I'm done okay off Wednesday so we gotTA OUGHTA celebrate. Let's do that is so crazy like you're gonna you'RE GONNA you're graduating own to the real world. No eight does not know. No you got one more semester graduate in May have almost semester. Yeah that's okay. That's why wait a minute. People graduated at twenty two. No I thought Oh yeah I guess yeah oh they gotta start because you bet these earliest depends on whatever it is they put listen a big ass hotel. We live out here for almost looking for an internship so funny you guys have an interest about their possibilities. Throw me that in because I need a shot for the spring and spring up. ooh We got you here in. You won't be coming back Kidnapped or you're gonNA love so much you're going to go to a with the first option the kidnap welcome everybody to another episode up tabloid and I forgot. I forgot to do this. You know the last episode of the through Irving Ole miss the. It's a matter the cheap thrill and the king talk style. Always Jada Red. Santa Ed ed I I am from the man who's happy that has signed a lucrative deal for less than ten million really early trade us. Trade is as I say. We get fucking Sterling Marseille only Marseille. which that's my prediction? We're GONNA Trade Nemo and a few other people for Sterling Morton Bayley Nemo. Oh yes think about it. WHO's GonNa get Conforto note who you can get rid of? Jd Davis and fucking Neil McNeil know who's GonNa who's GonNa go. Yeah you're right and Emma such such a good guy. It's I know but she's Mortiz again. She loves to be a madman. I know and I would love if we don't trade him but but if you think about everyone else you can't get conforto now you can't you can't you can't get rid of who else you can't get rid of now you. GD Davis you gotTA JD Davis to now. No you're right you're not all social media Alec. I don't know like group page on facebook. Sabato you guys went partaking in the group Polls for the upcoming Tabio wars. That's what we're doing. Thank you It's GonNa be a little bit interactive because your votes in your nominations. The nation's also help us with our final decisions. Some you guys are making some really good voltage someone you guys online man. Yeah and also also shots in my guy or in beccles. He's been trying to recruit everybody to page. But then I win the Becky PA. Yeah but he's not not accepting doesn't council it's not exactly whatever whatever I WanNa be I was thinking about For next year we should do a up the Creator Promo contests cut a promo contest. Okay and it was too late though so. I don't think it's like it's like the listeners. Give us a two minute video on what they want. A Promo would be awesome. That'd be awesome. And then they could be a part and they coming on a skateboard and they could host. It could be that the the people that talking with shuttle Boy Ali Ali has been a big supporter reporter of turnbuckle Tabby House glory. And all that and he's he's he's been all over instagram facebook and putting everybody on about about timber tabloid. This dude is Mac Act following loyal and fi follows thoroughly which is no cause for me. I wouldn't follow me. I don't give a shit I would follow me. I don't know what's so special meat Dorky. As I'm terrible terrible horrible human being why why would anybody WANNA listen to my my retorts in opinions about wrestling. I don't know how the life things I don't know I don't know why I do now. I'm sad case it's a it's okay so images are on instagram tabloid as well. That was on twitter at turnbuckle at tabloid on Youtube. And as well as on anchor and we're also on all all those spot spotify him spotify all podcasting outlets out talk about spotify because You guys are spotify doing that whole What what what are you listening to the year and shoot okay and then and I saw a lot of people were sharing that they listened they listened to the tabloid I was like? Oh that's cool. Cool there you go. Maybe not number one is like their fifth one McGowan. I'll be number forty five. 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Is he a Promo for independent show and you would think you would sound like this. He was like you know man. I really anything. Oh no I've gotta find that I. I'm serious oh God I gotTa Find Eddie was I think it was a yeah. He was he was like. You know this is the this did. This is the blade aide. I'm like Oh my Allie. Allie sounds tough with him. Yes the bunny on every day. Oh God I gotTa talk about that Shit this week. Oh God they weren't that they weren't that good either worked better than they weren't worse than fucking They were worse than fucking Goto. Oh God there these dark attacked. I tell you one thing though but this is and we'll talk about it we get to it also anything to cover. No no we go so this week. Ladies and gentlemen all cutting cutting this week we'll be you discussing Best of all time being never done that. I'm surprised we'RE GOING TO BE. We have on our on our nominees Lewis for tabby a giving of the a year so which pretty much have an idea was going to run away with that Shit BRISSON GO NO ORANGE CAST A. Hey I really hope our lily ban on facebook from the person Volker. I'll quit. Let's just be real honest. No no no. Let's not skier. The voting process. It's illegal scare it but We're GONNA be talking about Giving the Gimmick of best giving of all time time there's been okay we can talk about also we have what we wasn't wrestling talking about. The the the Wednesday night was which I guess what what I have said for the longest come to fruition. which which is the fucking ratings? Don't matter because it's abors off like I said already it is is going to taper off. Find out what show did better. Oh maybe not or maybe who gives a FI seriously okay. They should start doing the Do the views of live. We should do the we should we. Should we should do the ratings of taped recorded. WHO recorded this? That's where it matters is the ones who dvr. We're happy for both the draw good numbers. We'll be happy that's all I that's all I matt. How does your drawing? There's no honest. Two million viewers in wrestling on a Wednesday. Yeah and days right and and to be honest. The people who are hating annexed he lost. Are you wishing the failure like really like you say W. wishing failure okay and then when they closed whose fault is come on be honest with what the fuck we also have Russet went now which is always a. We have a deaf of wrestler of funny because he died and I was like I died died. It was and then We have to look it up now so has passed away. Desk didn't know he died. I mean I didn't know who will I mean I knew he wasn't. He's well known home. Apparently so interesting circle. Who's he you? You have to look it up I can. Hopefully he's put that in and also you didn't have the deaf. Dismantle is renowned in Canada. I have no idea exactly. Make sure you check off that as well as ratings walls and the back and forth between Seth rollins and cm punk and yeah. Yeah I I'll go first in this case you hear back on for instance in the basketball in the background also have predictions for TLC prediction for TLC. And we have this week's conversation. We we have a young man that we met at the House of Glory Show and he was on the parochial because I saw him on facebook on instagram and he Worked for the a lot of the eastern seaboard companies. Didn't I didn't think that that that he listened to us and he does. Does He. he says you know I love listening to you guys because you guys talk like real high is it. Sounds like you guys awesome to hear you guys sound like I'm in a room with you when you have a goal the show and that's exactly the target what we do Dominic Deniro stops in a Discusses what goes on with his daughter wrestling. He started wrestling late talks about how he got into wrestling and also also growing growing up in the mean streets of Brooklyn our he wanted one of those guys you know. which is you know friend of ours? Kinda Kinda Guy. Wait for that. Were kind of people talking about visiting. Deniro's I'm kind of assuming that He's Spanish no no he's not. He is my familiar Mafia talion. We don't talk about the mafia here. There's no such thing as mafia in for real. There's no such thing I don't know what you're talking about to pretend dusen donald in exist. There's those I did that. That was a Mafia. Like fifty grease balls talking about Mafia. My bed what is on on a Guinea go away. We gave the warning at the beginning of the show. Hey WHOA WHOA. WHOA WHOA you? Don't talk to Manjana. I'm on Jersey other word again again. Delun with the game believes you can say that we should all say we could say fuck. Oh ee you listen. We don't say Guinea over here. 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Okay shoot or Gimmick law this is this is this is a shoe fehb. I would put both as a shoe fehb so let me tell you straight Sutanto cafe. Good keep a straight shooting okay fame so ladies and gentlemen boys and girls should all ages cutting promo. This week is dedicated to something that we have on the nomination lists for the tabby awards. We have gimmick of the year. But Yeah we WANNA look more in-depth with that which is gimmick of the decade. No Gimmick of the all time all the time liver the universe of wrestling the best gimmick of all time. Yeah yeah absolutely. There are a lot of gimmicks out there I mean wrestling is basically pro nowadays. I think there's less and less gimmicks because I'm not saying because you're older than me but like I think give me Oh you give me a better answer than I have myself. What year do you think Kafe ape died I think he came around that round the ruthless aggression era. But I think it really was was more in tune before it when it was the the attitude slash. WCW NITRO era where everybody really have a gimmick it would just dump trying signed to be themselves while this is what we are doing now right but your eyes are really comedic gimmick or you're a prizefighter right right now it's more of mostly gimmicks are now based on their nationality or there or there were there from Repin their flag and Shit like that but wows irs can we if once in a while gimmick. Let's go back to the ninety s The early nineties down eighty shit eighties eighties out. The first real gimmick that anybody could really remember was gorgeous George Ms because he came in with the beautiful locks six and he had the the the the road the role worth the valet who spread the perfume in a ring before he stepped in and even as a wrestler. He didn't want to be touched. He's can't touch me good gimmick and he sold it to the masses that hold so you you think he was the first Another I like the PRI- the first giving them like that worked. It was a first gimmick that actually brought an audience that brought brought into the fact that he was a pompous ass delicious and I so he basically was the he was the He was was the role model of Ric flair. Yeah am a buddy rogers. All those were the hell even. Muhammad Ali said that he stole some of the stuff from from Gorgeous George his pageantry and his his is trash. Talk and stuff like that. They took it for them. But then when you move onto due to the sixties and seventies you had guys like Yet the more connected with the the fan base like Brunel Semel Tinos. You had the nature boy buddy rogers. You had those guys who won. They weren't really a gimmick they will just them. So the Gimmick died down but you still had gimmicks for like an up and down kosher words like it's in or it's out out giving day it's not going to attend attempted weekly footsie's I kind of like the give by the way. Yeah by the way is the phone line on a full on. If you WANNA call all in please do The numbers on the screen facebook live. But I have a challenge. Because we're talking about gimmicks if you call in I want you to give us an idea of what gimmick you you would make a gimmick idea that has not been done before we can judge it and see film actually sound good I WANNA be a A Gay Porno Star ovau Venus. No He's not he wasn't gay. He was just a male porn star. I WANNA be the Gay Porno Czar. So Kazmin dummy for no I guess not I mean twenty which you think Orlando Jordan means mind. But he wasn't gay he. He wasn't different promotion. He announced he was gay different promotion but he he did but okay so I wanted to be. I WANNA BE REVERSED DWARF The giant door. I am the reverse dwarf giving always wanted to be. I always wanted my Jimmy to be Like if my video games and show that gimmick was like a combination of Might be it was a it was a combination of bad ass undertaker but but but with But with a with a sort of metal vibe it would be like I I don't know how to explain it because every time I did what the fuck is going on. WHOA WHOA Baba knows about Oh shit So I don't know I don't know but fuck me whenever yeah I'll talk about that maybe later. But Oh fuck me are or gimmicks important nowadays. I think it's still livelihood for. I really think that there should be a back to everybody because as just wrestling but it is but you still have to entertainment and just because I can't full heartedly believe that you're the million dollar guy with the the million million dollar bell and I believe that you're the trump ask kind of wrestler Charles Mason but you sell it. Yeah you sell it and you try to make it work so it's believable which it's hard nowadays because of social media but for example For example we'll talk about This whole Bobby Bobby Bobby Lashley and fucking Whole Russa Gimmick Lawn is getting? FBI fucking death threats and actually above love which chooses to or not. If that's true it's working your yes. Exactly listen when soldiers Laura had to go law against Hulk Hogan over the case may be during that time during that wrestlemainia season and he was the the the the Middle Eastern earn Saddam Hussein's sympathizer. He made he was getting deficit on that. That means it's fucking working in the hole so this it's called best of all time. I was hoping we could go back and forth on okay and shoot our favorite gimmicks. Okay on the spot and just discuss. Why so you think they are the best Do you WANNA go. First one of my favorite gimmicks of all time being best esten like what you think is most successful. Could be your personal favorite. It doesn't matter okay point out Tabloid who's this Pucca Brad. Savage Sir. What's going on percent me that selfie use scantily clad motherfucker? You all right then. Well KHIMIK would be. I'd be the wrestler that you would see getting into that pretty damn good and then all of a sudden at the end the match win it out out of nowhere Hogan says now says whole Cogan Johnson. Now just Bazeley absolutely me. But what would be the gimmick like would you be the the hillbilly. Would you be the farmer. Would you be the Eddie Metal Man. Okay so you'll be like Mountain Man Medal Man Jack or something like that serving metal so you'll be on the ring with a leather jacket with a guitar or not at basically be progressive like in the athletic layer but yet with a Bandana and long hair this great rhody savage Rhody Brett Savage Rizzoli bread savage. I will call it the Rockley. 'cause have robber athlete the Rock. That's not bad though Brenta rockabilly Michaeli savage. That's not that mixing. Those two are actually a really cool mix what would be your theme music coming in either Cannibal carts in surgery or God baiter. That was quick us for you to save. Both of those shows me that I don't know who sang it or song it is but I'm GonNa have to find out what it is now because played after. Now we gotta play. I'm I'm probably GONNA play for wrestling rundown as other like that. That is that's that's our core man. Is that like speed shit basically Have you heard of archenemy. No Yeah I have not sure I've been at twelve. They're not okay slipknot. Yes of course imagine that band just picked up by five hundred percent and more bad ass. Oh Damn then. That's that's something that I might have to lock load and get ready to roll with 'cause that sounds. They have a song called. I cum blood. It's a story of my my high school years. I cum blood. Hi come blood. Would you be a heel or face what would you be. It'd be flip flopping all over the place between her Happy because you came blood. That's why came blood. That's why I will be your finisher editor. I called this quick trip. A hell okay. Now the YOU'RE GONNA see when I do it. Hold Brock Listener Right. That's right Syria. Let's hurry so you'll have to see when I do it. Yeah don't tease me. Bid Because I came blood of bread fucking hilarious. You're awesome thanks. Thanks what a selfie again. I might use that as one of my profile profile picks. It don't use it as I. It's only for you. Thanks a lot for calling in. And thanks for the Gimmick and I'm I'm still trying to figure Rockley the rock the rock the rock wreck savage. Yes IRA thanks. We'll call it amen. Hey let me do something real quick. Sure Hey Paul Heyman or Brooklyn. You're if you're out there get better take my goddamn challenge. Don't come find you put up Ask about the lean. And you ain't GonNa like it and I might make a little stop to you. Can you know where I don't know where it is but I really knows where I'm GonNa uh-huh city already know what is going to happen in the washing away and tear it down from the Rock Rock Lee and checkup tales. Have yourself schedule cars without the most bad ass. Never thanks a lot sir. Thanks for calling in no problem. Ladies I think morning off uh-huh Rick Flair had probably wanted a biggest Besides Gorgeous George Rick had like the biggest. You'll end all of his in the seventies. He had the kickoff favorite. Probably coming down that line. I mean you had the ox Baker's you had the killer Kowalski's those his fearsome guy. You're going in time water. Time Order. Yeah but when it came to Gimmick wise. That was mainstream nationalist national stuff it was it was rick. Rick was the be all end of of It was kind of a mix of nick. Nick Bach winkle kind of thing. Tall and Do always believed that he was that big money guy that he he was the person who lived in can show you that he can live right absolutely the best minute ride his bike boroughs faculty you know he was Bruno. San Martinos is an Italian guy with a barrel chest and had like the bill for eight years. You Fargo cares eight years no big big. Who gives a shit If you're going in that that time order I'd have to also say dusty Rhodes right my ron to say that. Yeah because he wasn't the American Dream SORTA Guy The blue collar guy that everyone can relate to but to me the guy who did it look like a wrestler but no honesty Swiss. Still one of the best someone to make you believe. His Gimmick was more more like he was a blue collar. That's a gimmick right. Yeah that yeah because that. That's that's the the face kind of the other dog story. Yeah that's the face kind of guy that you had to work with Dusty be first white person's chugging job and I'll tell you that much yeah but does the also does. He wasn't always he's a face does he used to be a he'll back in days when he was with Off got his name but he was also he was all he was also He'll so it wasn't until later all when he got into the AWA owner. Of where he that if you ric flair right steel etc But a lot of those guys in that era were more themselves was like yeah like hauling race was Ham. Was it and that's really get. It wasn't so so you get like in the pro wrestling right now. It's more on the entertainment Liu says and and those guys they were them it it wasn't it was more respect right. It wasn't too as the eighties. When you got guys like Adrian Street Adrian a Donnas. These the guys who went anywhere became flamboyant. Yeah you had Piper who came in with the kill and played the bagpipes and shooting learning and he was like Canadian but listen he had made it work. Yeah you know and the The Sheiks And what were what really was selling. It was like Nikolai Nikolai. Volkov or the anthem right crusher cruiser the Russian Russian fucking gimmicks like these guys would do. Most of them were a lot of heels who did give him a lot of were heels. It didn't really get a lot of most phases themselves with a smile on their face. A wave now right right. You didn't really get that whole feel that the faces really needed to have a gimmick and I guess because you the heels needed a more because they need a reason to be booed rather than just be like okay. Why am I doing you right so then it had to be? You had a creative gimmicks which most of them were anti-american. Oh of course as that was that was it always will be the cheap heat of the wrestling world. You get you get that of that that whole whole premise. That the easiest way for me to get booed as to say that you're fucking town your city or you're fucking town I've ever been in. That's over now in other faces over okay vic flares great. I think I'm not gonNA. I'M GONNA say my favorite Gimmick but we one of my favorite games. We'll talk about that worked and I think it just was phenomenal. I'M GONNA go with the under. Oh but that site. Whoever came up with that idea for him hit gold while he said it in the cold podcast? He said that He originally was not given the undertaker name himself You hear that part of the the podcast now Undertaker was still mark at the time. It wasn't like you know. He wasn't his Gimmick Newark. Bigger Vince called him thinking it was someone else and going knowing your undertaker right and he was never given that name and he was like an undertaking ocean he. GimMe Gimme Yeah that's me. Or if it's perfectly and he goes you're you're doing this and he goes on. You WanNa take a right and daughter to met for somewhere else and he called the wrong number always shit and ever since then. He took the undertaker Baker. He took the name Wednesday and sent him drawings of how the look would be right and he was like they had they had ideas from the Christmas. Carol goes to the Christmas past the guy in shackles. The Do fucking big tie. tortillas tycoon. Kill the motherfucker a turtleneck and any. I'm liberal but I think he is the definition. I thought ric flair's too but that dude state under a rock living that undertaker gimmick for his entire fucking life and people hate on now while you're a twitter account like he's sixty. Let Him Rob. You does another gimmick over user data of the the American haters eaters cowboys cowboys. Were Always Imbaba Orne. Cowboys are always billy. Jack Haynes or Stan Hansen in Stan Hansen Tariff funk all all the cowboys salute shooting exactions all the guys who came in and they had the cowboy Albouy hand. He had a a cowbell with a rope on it and with a chat chaps on and Shit it's cowboys always was over. They had the fucking They had the vests with the fucking with the With the tailored fucking Shit on embroidered the sheriff for something different cowboys over also Indians talking about college. Yeah chief chief Wahoo. Why who mcdaniels Tonka Tom? Those are easy to get over a lot of gimmicks. Then we're American history chief Jay strongbow. Yeah a lot of games back then. We're like American history. You learned a lot of shit was back then like Other a cowboy and Indian or police police officers one of the biggest Gimmick style went over early on in the sixties was Fritz von Erich he was from I believe believe Texas initially but he came in as a former Nazi soldier. Oh Damn Yeah Okay you WANNA he'll EXAC- face Dow's probably all of you biggest gimmicks that actually drew he easily. Listen I can't speak about Nazis and Jews here because of my other blunder. I did I mean that that that was one of the biggest ones that had gone on back then ago Fritz von Erich a Nazi soldier. The Game Wolfenstein came with a helmet would damn damn. That's why they were given. The mountie maladies good mounted. I'm like the the teaser. The Horse Tasers. Oh Jeez I was joking but I mean he was okay horrid season what makes it good for you. What I think is is the selling factor creativity? You have to be you you be creative. What's important to creativity or the selling the cell because at least with the side you give somebody something that's going to be the shits and you like off fuck really okay All right I can make it work. Look at Gold US homeland. He was giving shitting Pan fucking as legendary every with that shit. Yeah I know always be gold seven. No I'll tell you that have much. He's so then he made people feel uncomfortable on and offscreen razor. Ramon Yama into this mook. Remember story I'm not with this guy. Grabbing at Mont Junkin still literally it was. It was a Yushu near donal. Go those news. Like the first time I had a match. He started teasing me like putting his tongue hung on my head inch and I was like. I'm not into this Mook Shit. This is not what I expect. Do terrible but goal does mean at work from from. I think the true superstars when you're back in the days you were given a shitty gimmick and you still wrapped around who would have thought in undertaker would've fucking work and useful reaction on his debut. Kids were scared scared. Well look it up. He made a work coal dust. Anyone else would have failed that drink. Gimmick fucking George the Animal Steele. Or what the fuck yeah. He bit the turbo something like an English teacher. Also real sure was he really yeah. He's like an English teacher. Professor what do you do on your term Walker at by Elizabeth May and then and after fucking candles goal is it. Yeah excuse me you guys. ALGEBRAIC thesaurus the Algebra. I have a Soliloquy have to do for my my I college entry exam. p-how smoke it. Come I pipe smoking and for me I think it I think it has to do with does the cell as well Mankind well three he had do love mankind candidate Jack Jack and then himself off and he managed to make that work is that I think it also has to do with creative mind and motorists the selling point when we talk creativity. You think about Mick Foley Dude. I remember the story about about do love. He told Vincent man about Vince wasn't sold on it. He was like give me a chance right. And if it said I'm giving you one shot. This should don't work you're done and he goes you're fired. He goes this shit and they did the debut any pop like nothing tomorrow because he he he believed it was believable. And in a way of like damn you actually care about this gimmick no it takes even the stone quote gimmicks. Don't call was hey. He just came from being the Hollywood blonde and WCW to the circus general. Lyell the ringmaster and remastered. And you know. They gave him this. This whole Gimmick to where you're going to be Milton von freezing. Bergen was and and took. Okay the rock same thing. It's a it took his small personality. Rocky Maya via and took it to the next level cane. He went to in three different fucking kinds of gimmicks. Until wasn't Cain the fake Kevin Ass. Yes he went to three. It was himself. He was Kevin Nash and he was Isaac Yank them he he was also a number. I I believe it was in Ohio Valley or not or mid South he was the uni bomber the UNIBOND. Kate is probably one of the most underrated. Gimmick Stat was so over a guy that he didn't my favorites. He didn't have to talk. But when you found out that he could talk yeah he could cut a promos good he could then yeah definitely Kane is my favorites to be He was one of my favorite so I love Cain fim battle with a demon should do listen gimmes over the place. I think. Now we're seeing less of it. Well it went went through a period to where it was a reality era and all that stuff with the John Seen as being the Rico Rico was another one who embrace the Yes who embraces. He says his flamboyant appearance in stunt and such I liked Rico and billion chuck with the whole but he was he was. He was an athletic. Do he could have been over for real. If you're GONNA work Domino my favorite tag. He's got a guy guys who were supposed to be based in the fifties Barra ooh and Cherry and Schilling of the Boogeyman. He Man Not Believable but was entertaining. That's the question you have to ask yourself with these gimmicks and nowadays. It's not if it's believable anymore. I think that's just the window now. We already know it. Well the best the best thing that you can take by now is We saw a drop when it came to gimmicks and living here for a while. But I think we're all wrestling Dade live on shit now because because a lot of their talent is gimmick wise. I appreciate that through Orange Cassidy. awesome congre her new gimmick. Right You have the new order new dark ordinary dark order this new butcher in the band the bunny shit which will lay the bunny in the The toaster the microwave stapler The again on the easy bake oven wherever it is. I appreciate gimmicks into and I always I love the Gimmick Seen I'm getting sick and tired of the old on myself I'm a prizefighter. SORTA thing we've seen that way too much proc listener And we've seen it done at a high standard so I I WANNA see Guys come in. With a Gimmick Kofi Kingston. The guy came in and cut the Promo on on a Jamaican beef patty on trial. I'm not joking. He literally literally did. And and and Al It's not like you have a Jamaican Gimmick. We'll we've never had that before you're right. Yeah exactly yeah a gimmick they never seen before on easy. It'd be signed nowadays like Kobe. Case really walked in her lawmen this Jamaican beef Patty and also is like your higher. Do you been gimmicks that have to to do with masks or like Lucia's as easy to pull off no it's hard actually because everyone's doing it now. Everyone can automatic on. We make it depends on everyone can put a mask on Volusia door. Will what makes you stand hours. The important thing Ray mysterio broadened family rim. CEO Broadening Gimmick a family and home and and and But Erica actually gave himself a fucking character. Besides that he's fucking mask. Everyone nowadays just grabs fucking mask and could be a loser door which is says. Don't hate on Brock. I didn't eat brother. I'm just saying no no. Hey broader doc you're brought up is who's your favorite gimmick of this generation. I let me tell you. It's not voting for the tabby. So if you I WANNA say your your favorites for the awards voting. I haven't tell you I don right. Pc Oh one. Oh God I'm Don on I give up of course but we said he was GONNA win. You just didn't WanNa believe it. No I really didn't think he was GONNA win. Oh of course he was GONNA win. Are you fucking fucking series. There's one hundred seven years it's GonNa Win National of course of course. Oh my God. Oh that's your champion. And that's why you know that company's GonNa Shit. Yeah Yeah Abso fucking Louis Okay go ahead. What's your what's your question? Sorry I who's pulled. Hold off the best. GimMe changes in the past fifteen. Twenty years his Recently Bianco Bright White Bray Y Y Y went from from from rags to riches real quick. You have from bland land to bowl. The really quickly. John Cena. Okay anomaly anonymous to hustle loyalty not respect our portfolio. PG which was obviously did wonders for him right Who hosted a Guinea changed see Eighty undertaker on from from from demand to all American Bat. He's on the podcast that he was so scared that it was not going to work. 'cause remember that remember remember. He debuted the Barra's gimmick coming back from an injury. Yeah he didn't change it randomly in there if you go back and watch it again. It's actually a really good fucking transition osition. Because nobody expected and nobody knew what was happening when he came down everybody they pull back and then they popped. Yeah Holy Shit taker with a trench coat in which he looked fucking awesome. Exactly undertaker's one I I would. I'M GONNA say a Triple h the game the cerebral from from hunter. Hearst Helmsley Hudson. That's that's a big gimmick to that people don't fucking recognizes is is that the Helmsley Gimmick ultimate warrior. Jesus and I have to say that he transitioned but to live that gimmick. That's literally living it. Only Jim so hard time from from being passionate Hogan had a big gimmick he did have a big huge fucking the real American and for him to change up to Hollywood. Yeah uh I'll tell you what I was big that was. That's a definite best gimmick changeable his one that I said of all time as well give me change yes sting Oh my God yes from from from surfer. Stink the crow sting. Yes I think that's probably the one of the best game exchange of all time you go from a guy who who would you don't even see it live so you don't even understand like I. Wasn't there watching winning. And I think that was probably one the big reasons why I started transition to w w a little bit more was really hawes of that sting. That's thing was when he after a whole Hollywood surfer do kind of do away for a little bit. Then the whole crow look came and use like what the fuck you can imagine standing around looking at motherfuckers. Beach beaches shows ask who cares right and hair came in and then finally did come in from the rafters and the rap doesn't ls should cut his. You know the the aircraft Nola then he became wolfpack staying and it was people even say teen impact tradition getting to the jokers. That's what I was GONNA say. The joke is I think the table for three. I highly suggested read. Watch the table for three. It has EIJI styles. Kurt Angle and sting little impact and by the way stink city. Hey the six hundred six I ring and One thing he said one thing he said was the most. The most funny had creatively was Stinger. What was Was uh-huh joker stain. Yeah he said that was his best time being creative of all time. 'cause he had free I mean he could do whatever the fuck I also that he was going to pull it off again in on WBZ. When I was hoping? Yeah but you know whoever Gimme changes. Because he's my favorite so I'm GonNa go with Shawn Michaels and people. I'm thinking about that. Because people always think he was the sexy boy the rockers he was rocker Sean Walker and what you do. The he'll turn. I think he was the best entertainer of all time came. DX Sean on I think he became the greatest entertainer of all time. I think besides Chris Jericho which I don't think jerk really didn't give He does. He's actually done a million sorry but besides Jericho. I want to put circles to of old greatest of all time. I think the best leash. That's a debate for different. They have to put gun to my head. Best Gimmick of all time. That's closer here of all all time it has to be it has to be undertaker has to be it has to be an undertaker. He did Ministry of Darkness he did that has over located. He did The Democrat he did so much with that one but then a comeback Bernie but a close second for me honestly when it comes to changing your Gig and everything else you gotta give it to Jericho. Oh you have to Jericho is the goat and not just in general. I think he's the best entertainer will time and that's a debate for a different day. Which I think we should definitely have another learn more for that? Dude is the best. No one could top Jericho from me. On the list of Rustler's I think he went from. I think he went. He is definitely volume. List of For me for number one of all time. He let's let's go to the Gimmicks Rockstar Dickhead to break the code. mendiburu's unabridged the best gimmick of all time million naked median. Oh mercy television I thank you both have the same opinion on the greatest. I think undertaker definitely win the trophy progress. Gimmick of all time. The fact that you can make you can make a dead man. GimMe a guy from fucking funeral home into man. He was and you know. It's funny. wrestlemania twenty. When he came back the pop was bananas wherever the direction he went? He just drew money there. The gimmicks are so important. And what you just hear that Gong wherever the fuck it is and up. Everybody knows what it loose bunch you standing up. And it's always there's always four five people that people who don't really watch wrestling the first thing they say as these guys it's a Fox. RIC flair Afaf fucks with Iraq are Fox was although I fox with Goldberg under I fucks would undertake and I think that's another conversation for different day where I think he I think we'll we have a whole clinger Promo guy one day soon so I guess when we come back we're going to have What we watch wrestling as well as wrestling rundown? I like what we did last week though which was which we think we mesh to. Yeah do you like that. Yeah but first before we're going to have. TLC predictions guys. You guys are going to stick around. We will return guys watching on facebook. Live remember this is not the only show this more. Uh You guys think this podcast is way longer than this weekend. This as people go man you guys do a great show man. I Love Your Life. Seems whatever's I fuck you download the rest of I. Two spotify defy Google play. Google play music. Google podcast. Fuck fuck you. Just fuck fuck cutest. They Oh yeah I love it because people go you guys do an awesome show great. Yeah you guys talking about such as such cutting up and I'm like did you hear the rest of Africa. There's a recipe of so yes. Of course there is another two and a half hours of loved the INTRO. The stories love everything. You're fucking hate that. No He's like. Oh you're opening now. I WanNa do live extremes anymore really. Yeah because it's like there's more to it than just dead someone every team and said you're you're opening several was made the show was great and my gray What what was your favorite part? Oh man when you're talking about the undertaker I was like cutting a promo. Yeah did you listen about the other every time about you do other. Oh Shit off funky you fuck you cut off from the show cheese all right guys. Don't go anywhere I stick around. We will return and make sure you fuck what we Donald Treatments before we go. Who is the winner of the contest? We debate the which one the promotion pocket competition for the Becky. Lynn's pub no one. Why because you guys fucking did anything? You want me I recruited everybody show to him back. He's trying he was Ryan. Well the winner the winner was. I love you guys you guys Shit Fuck you next year next year I could. I gotta say something though. Honesty from what we had last year I think we were like two hundred something followers and groups and shit like five almost like five fifty two. We did a lot so thank you guys. So guys don't go anywhere. Stick around with return please please please fucking is more than a show. That's fucking streaming. Share it tell you about it come on go see you guys in a sec. Jd from New York and you guys are listening to turn buckle tabloid. Take uh-huh okay. Don't this long as fucking fiery supposed strongest so fucking fire. You put that up there. I always put the thousand list number. Remember we in back in the old parliament. We remember I always put a brute song up there high the booze. Oh Oh but this is fucking. I WANNA play this shit when I'm about to have sex. You're oh you're a baby. Alleging I love you and I WANNA be with. You was something that I've been waiting for a long time to do the. UN Dami sexy. They say to you this could put my a finger knuckle fhu knuckle Deby. That song could after after he came out with that song he should have the Khrushchev already. I think he did but I didn't think it took to get into the debut or some backlash and he came out Eh. I think he'd beat like come. Funaki ISM Shit for it. J B Noble was but that was another gimmick change that we didn't mention which was from from a Superhero Vazza hurricane hamster that Shit and new member and he had about four things like five hundred day. Yeah the Shade I. I think I'll probably the best cruise which run. Yeah ever. Yeah so for W we but ladies and gentlemen we are here for TLC predictions. I'm Lee the actually have matches lineup which this came rather quickly I feel like there was a preview last week which wer space. Better But I'm not complaining because it's a great thing to watch during my studying time for my finals. So W Louis. TLC will be This Sunday and Here is the matches we predict them. Hopefully hopefully red finally have you know does his fucking bet for Wrestlemainia and dresses up the fucking demolition. But what I'm GonNa do what dressing up his demolition out the guitar. Whatever you say? You're not the first match in the car. We have Alastair black versus Buddy Murphy. This is my match tonight. These are two of my favorite people on the fucking roster and is going to be a pre show. This is this is not going to be. I hope not but what it was. Is it going to be appreciable because it is I'm GONNA fucking kill somebody I know it's not going to be pretty sure can't be campy. It's going to be pre show. Fuck AH which I think. This has a chance to be mentioned. The knife done proper should be. My pick is Alastair Black though actually you know what fuck the world. I'm going to go bowling. Where roll up okay? Stunned stunned the in Pau. And I'm GonNa go with you and say it's not GonNa go that way. It's going to be funding black mass. See but that's the that's the obvious our I want I still have hope my main body Murphy me a roll up. Pin Surprise is our black. Okay them on even ground next week of the rotating championship challenge. Viking raiders which we won't speak about cousin which open challenge It's GonNa be it's GonNa be fucking on the OC. Let's just be fucking real here Well just me fucking real. Young people are seeing USOZ. ooh which it's not. Get our hopes up. Please does not not bad though. Yes a smackdown tag team championship matches. We have the new day versus the revival in a ladder match. Approach US far. Yeah that was delicious. That's what I thought about that match while you're bugging brock. That's GonNa be a good letterman. You'll be agreed. Great this guy. She has a chance to be a great management lager. I think the new day retain though what he of course gonNA grew Women's team championship Kabuki Warriors Face Becky Lynch in Charlotte flare in. TLC match we got. I'm going to say that back in Charlotte I think so as well but I think the Kabuki warriors will be getting again soon. I thought they were GONNA take comeback. I th- yeah I and I'll tell you why one of those pop they're they're going to retain it they're going to defend offended and Charlotte's GonNa turn Becky Oh and make them lose. It causes that future spark again. Ogre up next we have of RUSSA versus Bobby Lashley in a tables match. I Have Bobby Lashley Gone With the wind on this one. I have to tell you bobby. Lashley held wins by. Lana interference Bobby no way to end his story. This quickly awesome with the heat. That's going on no. No you're right bobby's you'll get the win here What you think you agree yes? Rumour Rangers King Corbin. TLC match we got. I'm I'M GONNA go with King Corbin. I'm going to Roman No. I'll go to Corbin because I think ziglar which no more because wrestling rundown my mind right man man man man. I also think that there's going to be Another entity going to be involved in which is maybe a ashort little manager. That'll probably PAS. Oh Okay and throw them off the ladder maybe push push your means of the letter move. Maybe maybe me so I can corporate. You've got who I have Corbin non title match which is wow. I just found his untitled. Macha Bray wide versus the MS. Yeah not a fiend. The Bray it's break which your opinion I'm interested to the entrance. I can't wait to see what the entrance is going to help us. I I hope. The puppets are on the sides. Share all big Disney characters show. You're bugging people in the costume. How Yeah I want him to be like huge shows? The will live Morgan. Come out I hope so so I think the MS winds. I'm going to say great. I I say Bray Wins Distraction. I'll tell you why the MS wins. They're going to pull this shit. Where the Bray Wyatt characters the week one and who can lose an defeatable right which we spoke about before we the data? I don't think they're going to end. Is that scary. Dude unstoppable. So I think the MS wins. You've got the bright white I'M GONNA take brazen one and that's vest card. Bre Ri. Yes that's all it's announced. Sure Bam that's all it's enough so that's the TLC predict she owns what we're watching wrestling. We'll we'll we'll do main quick points. It is going to fucking bullets. Let's go to the bullet bullet. Well let's talk about the big bullet point here. which was the story of Rollins and Kevin Owens as we finally got our answer is is Seth Rollins Heal? Yes He is Ladies Gentlemen Kevin Owens looking all over for looking all over for What the fuck is going on? Oh nope Oh what the fuck is going on. Why's my it's always happens? I sorta I'll never do re residency. My fucking phone gets fucked up okay so this will will happen overall this week. Just the main main bullet points. Kevin Owens looks all over the place for Seth rollins right. Kevin's comes out and accuses. That rollins of course has to do with breath. ADP Kevin Says He. They're gonNA attack me a blah. Rhonda's not agree of course can goes in the back. Beats the shit out of a car which wailed on that Shit just to find out that it is indeed seth rollins with the AARP thoughts. On this. I'm more enthralled. Roll with like. Why is it every time we got beat? The shop car like what. The fuck is always a car the car did you. Are you a fan of zeal. Turn yes it's been a long time coming longtime I'm coming here. He comes out and says which I think is absolutely perfect. His reason to be a he'll is I can never please you guys whatever I fucking do. I can't fucking please you guys. It's just never it just never in the fucking card. So Ron's is now. He'll which I think we're both a fan of definitely. I am rollins in Kevin. Owns GonNa be the program. I just wish a belt was in this. Because you know now brock's gone again. You gotta be fucking kidding me you gotta be fucking kidding me and people ask asking why they did. The trade brought his brock homework every week. And this is what I was telling you previously read. This is what you kept telling me believe Matt believe. Hold on. It'll be okay. Hey Brock is going to be a good champion again. And he's gone again and that's why he went to raw because Fox needs a champion on their show every week. No you're you're right you're right fucking terrible. I can't take it anymore broad but what I feel for the past four years but they always find a way to bring you back because when when somebody beats brock is okay definitely that is true so Ron's turned heel Umberto Correo beat Andrade so dumb is is due to give me. Give me a quick snippet about that because the the rest of fucking role was basically just Feed the street providence. Pretty okay Drew McIntyre defeated hardy which might possibly be his last match on W. E. programming contract is countries like in March Switch Arabia. Web Rare. Biharis fucking speak ready. Hardee's tweet Tashin now. We'll discuss that quick answer. Black defeat occurred as our Just a a woman for their. TLC Match Buddy Murphy. Defeated writer for another warm-up Match Rhone Defeat local any talent quick note on that one that was probably the the most the best job I've ever seen that we what I think that was the the the the most interesting jobber match. I've seen In a way not in a way of him being good but you saw it he did right was that he he grabbed the cage out there so the role went out and he was hoping using account. That's it should add talking genius also is how who the jobber is but that shit was great. Storytelling I think it was great. That he threw the cage out in the foreign and made him fucking made him crown made him can. I was funny. He was uh he ran. He ran his fastest growing bolted. That within the jobber was fucking me ran back in the ring and he tried doing the count out in a row and fucking came back. Ronan the quick squash but I think this just an odd to the fuck it just About the fucking job or for taking trying to steal the cage and then China trick a role in which I thought was great on. Wait to see the fucking The mess that's on the fucking K.. Yes it AJ's sloppy sloppy shit a ham sandwich such as we something terrible that everybody's GonNa like really like Beleaguer His Kiss Chick. There is going to be something really bad What happened Kevin owns Before the whole Ronson came amount Siamese came out with Mojo Rawley. which was terrible amount? Gone over that Go ahead give me a quick reason. Why you don't like Umberto could he'll he's bland? 'cause I'm a soloist vanilla. You don't know what the faulk and whatever moves is that he does honestly that they make this flash in the panthers like you do know you have Ricky Shanta. RASA embassy does way more than where was registered as week. Yeah what I'm saying that he does way more and to be honest. Your cousin is better than you whose umbrella crews cousin Angel Garza their cousins. Yes Oh integrations way better is way better than you way barriers and he he just win so I mean they should just put on a mask and quantum a Lucia fucking party member awesome. Sure really should make him the new Sankara since Only goes not there. Make him the new Sincari's nobody will know. The difference. Is that bad. He's bland to me and they better sleeves on. No it's not. It's still back the bag aisles. Leo Bad and and the the feud with on drivers is like okay but now you license is facing a Spanish. Do fucking racist Shah sure forgotten Spanish he owned and then now teasing a breakaway Selena's for why that's a bad move Zachary. That's a bad move. Should have made him a fucking faction. Who doesn't make any sense at a bad move? Was the fashion. You wanted to see on W. O. with Cain Velasquez Ray maybe Stereo Angel Garza and At them all the one you just talking about Bertha No I was named Umberto Calandro from Bertel. Goody Oh yeah we're fucking Lau. Hud Terrible Oscar insane both beat up both both Becky in Charlotte they both get ice packs fucking medical treatment and say in the cornea segment of seeing raw. Becky goes on. TLC terrible general hospital booking their. Ah Look terrible than fucking Shala got an is with after. What do you think about the divorce? Cornerstone of Roja. The King lawler. Of course Jerry. Being at like everybody's given initially like I said I love this. This is good. Plot as long as acting is terrible bobby. Of course the new zero go wrong on with that backwards saga. I'm old moved down here. My bankers. You can't go wrong with that Did you see this out. Rousseau Donald Duck shirt love that one life this week did you see the the match where. Aj and Stereo uh-huh urine coming out and doing the fucking the hard Ada. The heart. Eleven o'clock Finnish as soon as you want to three cut short. Cut it off off. Eleven o'clock Finnish cut it off because I think they did a botch and it was late harder. Oh Okay I guess we're done here all right I was thinking about it this week. Rose good I didn't think it was bad and I thought what was good. I thought the wrong skilled terms grabbing it was a big. TLC build up with black and Buddy Murphy. Having their no matter which was cool so roy was row is pretty decent. I'm no NWEA this week. No about Nobel Nobel just into the fires a Saturday Saturday. So we'll talk about that next week. The Tampa goal tempo's a gold onto aws week which who interest no impact? No kidding beyond me you wanna go go ahead this is are we doing this porn star wife. Yes that's weird oh Just fine I'll say not to say that there's anything wrong with fire but it's like it's going to create as creepy creepy thirsty. The one thing I'll say is from Rhino already wasn't bad this week but I hate to working on him while he's doing the RV De Shit. It's like Oh this is weird. I like dating an eighteen year. Old really odd this gets serenity. Oh terrible yeah Impact needs a little going to blow. When he's in a submission hold? Yeah definitely Run around the Fox Plas- Getting Dick Suckers Weird moxley comes out and I have wanting to say he is little. He is really becoming stone cold. I told you though When it comes with the music and he comes out with I told you he is the the Modern Day stoeckel. I've been saying that for two years I said finally given the right role Jimmy. The music of teams on I love him when he comes out until the audience. It just has a stone cold presence goosebumps when he comes out as true on looks good he fits the fucking. GimMe a fits. The mold and He comes out Does two seconds to wash outs Reynolds. paradigm shift. DDT JERK comes out makes an offer to moxley saying that he should join the inner inner circle which is basic he'll storytelling uncle. Put the shirt on analyses back and says the way he did. It was like put a gently gently. 'cause you want to get hurt The last champion. I'll tell you I said in the group chat. I said Jerko is looking like a Samurai drawing fucking copy the to me. He doesn't look like Jericho he looks like somebody. Somebody Somebody Draws Samurai on a piece of paper like Okay Buki Samurai looks. He's GonNa his is looking very pulled back in it. He's fifty Helix Pertamina. What Jim Ross didn't want can't say which he looks oriental which she can't say anymore? Because everyone's it you know so they tell us that the guys when you go to Chinese restaurant you bought the bill order and have the sorts. You Oh ooh ooh general chicken. Jesus as Donald Gregg dishes so The Last Samurai. So Damn fucking Tommy like Tom Cruise. Jesus Christ so Jerko Hitting his hand to Moxley next week the butcher in the Blade Feeding Cutie marshland cody. I thought as this match was simply entertaining I thought Cutie Marshall the big back during the fucking flying and shit like that. It's fucking hilarious. Oh so the fact. That cody and that scar. Everybody everybody looks the fucking saying. What's your thoughts on the butcher? The blade today everybody looks the fucking same. Everybody's dark brooding do this. We call a depressed. Oh my God even when he did the Promo Fuck in where we were Brandy rose and her fucking how she she didn't do. It's the same surrogate. Everything's the same shit. I don't know I don't know who's in the back writing as a twelve year old. Yeah offended hot. Good now the only real good faction narrow attacking whatever is the inner circle that say and they have to be every segment. Even that they have to be the saving grace every segment Ah Cutie marshland codeine. As we know was pretty. It was pretty funny. It wasn't good but it was like wow. It was good surprise factor. This motherfucker actually actually did something. GimMe GimMe Gimme something else to Khalid a wannabe give me. Give me something else for so boreham butcher bleed thumbs up with comes down Knows thumped now Amana Fan of it. homeboy talk afterwards. If you WANNA see something with the blade and I need to come out to n w FS wrestling wrestling Mat. Tell you right now. We do things the wrong way and shut up. Yet a Bush of he'll voters thousand Mubarak a helium asked eating. FRIGGIN air. Ingesting get Outta here. what are your thoughts on What are your thoughts on? MJ F coming Out and doing the whole house probably the best. He'll pro Paseo really up. I wish I could play. I WANNA play homes. Go ahead so while you do it. I'll go over a few more things. The big swollen defeated Visa Khuda this. There's no reason why that fucking mad twenty minutes twenty three minutes long. No Ni Dan match was people give it a single news is also and you put her over for why money off it one second to you in a second. Hey Hey toward boy. Last week that's intimidation right there. Oh look no Russel's donal troughs camera groups that look pretty damn good to me tracks mixed. Aj Aj loves and loves 'EM AND WHY wouldn't you watch it together. He looks at one of your homeboys. Glendale Cody Rhodes. I want to say page-long guys wanted the same plug in a little money on. Jim Be too many the microphone in your hand but you are absolutely untouchable. All with the exception of one guy and of all the people open your mouth about you decided to talk talk about that. One guy well to quote a legend. But you do not throw rocks at a man with a machine gun and when my mouth opens these bullets. Don't miss shots fired now. Tony I heard your little business proposal and it was. It was really cute. Don't get me wrong. I really enjoyed it. But yeah the same scarf that you and these morons so so boldly claiming is fake fig Gucci Burberry. Ah Let's talk about that word fake. It's very alice bill. Cody use that word. Fake because when I think of the word fake I think of of you I think of that platinum blonde hair. That looks like a cat pissed on it. The those Gary Busey esque Bieber Keith that I can land a helicopter on Jerry Byu and I think of all the Times you look look at these fans and claim you care about them. Well guess what Toady I'll give you this. There's one thing about you that's very real and that's your shitty little list. We said always said this. How can we always said did I offend you? Aw upsets I'm glad somebody pointing what did you. What are you going to try to fire me? You'RE GONNA pull Tony Body Count and get me fired. Wow about cody. How about you fire me the best in the business? That's bright. You won't be the one thing you want most in this world cody is to get your hands on me isn't it. And to top that off you'd be leading down each and every one of these people who claim to care about because what they want more than anything is to see us go at it. Uh people what to Tony. Ron Of loved to see them as A. It's not I mean not that Rosie o'donald what I want to see him cutting promos in a nursery thirteen years old. The yeah no kidding. but-but-but poor real milk is wrong titi. That's your father's excuse. Bags balls stipulate Jews bad and I'll tell you those stipulations but I'm not going to tell you those stipulations here in hockey bill. USA Texas on guys got a problem with the truth. The umbrella Hicks. Hey No wrong with being inbred the brand. Bremer Abraham Lincoln Abraham inbred Hick. I'm GonNa give you the stipulation. Didn't him he's fucking awesome. What gym do it is a fucking getting diamond in the rough also Wpro when the Ring Lower Championship. I'm joking why a big swath of your NBC Corner Real Quick Fix will not didn't look good then. I am fucking long stopping those torture to watch. I watch the lie. That was quite doors or bow. boobs were bigger and did less time new wa Wa Dow can make it happen while hey man page and Kenya mega defeat. KIP Saving Shawn Spears. After Kenya Mega Joy Nilo had telly. Blanche tied up which I find funny Because they tried calling. They tried calling them. They tried calling What's her name? Tessa no he tried calling Lb Fuck you. What what's her name fucking Penelope Ford Death? They because he's the bad guy she's A. She's a bagger tecoma beggarly like no Baba. That's George Gimmick 'cause they Brooklyn apartment dating anymore life so now she's dating I think hurricanes great Good to hang ruins Omega Great Shawn Spears also awesome. But I but the match was very entertaining. Probably the best part of the night for me Brandy. Roses Promo was terrible. Lucia sores defeated sending Var which. I'm Chris Jericho on commentary was fucking awesome. Yeah he was like our back he did this fucking an hager. Didn't do anything. Hey what are your thoughts on this. Exactly that's why you also want us here. We don't you heroi. Heroi meals. Melvin work. There's a he's Melvin. Yeah he was. Somebody listened to the show right Chris. Jericho announces that. It isn't not Talamante next next week in Tokyo mornings a fucking war on Young Bucks defeat or teases Santana in Texas Street fighter. Be the Dow's Big Masto. That was a great fucking therefore and we were sick with flu. And it's so I thought that was the match of the night so we had a great night on Johnny W we had a lot of fun which they're over? There's always there's always going to be you know when you make it make it work to a good show and it was a good show overall for me onto annex T as we had A Pretty Ma- night for me. I was really not enjoying annex. T THOSE TWO OF ANNEX T. I really liked like with which definitely read will group me on this one Leo Russia's Angel Garza was fucking awesome fantastic diplomatic. The Wow. That's the big. We'll explain that because you that explain the match to me just back off of him and there's so many spots that you could win either way and both of those men was nearly flawless man. I was a great so so you think it was a perfect uh-huh yeah it was really really good. What's up put the get? What's changed though Leo was the face an angel was the? He'll what happened here. That's the only not for me about the in which I wanNA make. An no chewing allowed brother loved in progress. God Damn Son you want your yours USA Awa you can't tell who's facing the he'll he'll but the full also fans love him because he's so good Yes and I mean you can't take anything away from that. They love him but he's the he'll he plays it off as the only the thing I didn't like was like this turn where he proposed his. Why his fiancee his girlfriend? He'll do that in the millerbrook bag bag burrow actually was born in one. Yeah I didn't like that But Angel Guards your new annex t cruiserweight champion fucking phenomenal Mattos bolt. Both those men deserve the highest. Praise that match So congratulations to Angel Garza up next. We had Raul Mendoza beating cameron grimes after interference from MM Kushida. So I guess we're going to see it. Go she'd Cameron. Grams feud soon which I'm all for I read you agree. Yeah I like. She didn't come agreement. That's actually pretty good. Show for me. Travis banks defeated Jackson Reicher after A slice of Heaven of the ropes to the shocking win. which here's my thing right? You try to promote the other the guys who fucking freelancers but then you fucking Jackson regulations only matching the fuck is that about. I don't know I should. Rocker is the guide. Should be winning his thank God who should be pushing losing. The fuck is going on over here. I don't know not a fan of that. Scratch my head a little bit. Because Jackson records should be the do being pushed if anything they should be the managers for him but okay Corker defeated me. A yelm took a by bump wage at the end. They had abroad Dakota actually eight stitches really bad bump at the end which was a fucking back body drop off and onto the tables for her clip. The other one but that happens all the time he does happen which I don't understand why they put the two tables. You might as well just go to that one and to keep it cord day So what did he want to credit cards. A you know it's awesome. She's working too well. Too many heels. I don't think so. I think he's working well a so That was cool as well. Brizo who the doctors this week defeat the sing brothers which was quick matched and care for Bianca. Beller feeding Carter and a quick squash match and finally we had the triple threat. It was imbalanced. keithly versus Muscle CIAMPA for the number one contender ship ship for the NFC championship. What do you think what about taking the pen interesting? I think it was interesting. Legal people right now should have been offend was GONNA win regardless about anything can. I didn't think it was win. Neither I thought they were going to write off the way of key theme make him winning. Get easy easy viewership for next week. Now I make it ended Eq- regards gods what you say. Finish the bigger draw. No He's bigger draw but he's he's also heels lots of heel versus heel which. I'm okay with an but keithly fleet Scott Kimbler very big moment survivors have a bigger surprise for that. which you heard what the the room for next -posedly which what is it? Resume Adele the that. How the entries are going to be in a royal rumble? Oh no I didn't hear that people using the mean woman for next week is Adam Cole was Oh and if Saint Fin bother other is the new leader. Oh and they say that. The members of our help valor win and and Ballard a new leader. ooh ooh interesting or there is another. There's another rumor out there about about something but That's the main right now. For next week. Okay I that is Komo Solo. That's a possibility. I mean his main roster call up oh no enemies if the rooms if you haven't in the stories what The rumble is going to be about. You don't have that so quick So familiar feed keithly new number one contender fucking great match as expected. So Um on and he was Pam Perry And demand you know we just Swat smackdown. But I'm just quick thing just quick The revival Dash Wilder fell and broke his ass. fucking her Larry buses as with a cryptic fell on our thoughts on the whole Bray white thing with the kid fucking baby monitor. I am not a fan of that. No but I think right not not knowing the premise. The premise of it is awesome. The way they were doing when you finally have to finish it off and the MRS running running up the stairs and he wastes his wife to come up the state so he can lift abroad. Go and I. There's a all right. Let's go and she goes in first. He let her in first behind item. A going alright. Rainbow six data Brooke Partito Bond Today. Okay which was a miserly Selma's horror and Batista sort order thing Barely defeated data Brooke. Yeah ability to find data book The MS had the interview with the Hobie Monash ownership which was whatever Heavy machinery lost to knock Amore. Ns Azzaro which early given his whole Nakimora Gimmick a push of Zara being aligned with more. What do you think about that? That's fine. You know what I'm waiting for. The days are all turns on Nakimora and taste the se belt from him as a face waiting for that shit coming soon Also on smackdown mark down Nikki president-elect Bliss defeated many roads Bill and finally finally we had Kofi Kingston versus King. Corbin become became a techie match and ended up being marines coming out in saving the day. And that was it. Okay nothing important. For the Roman reigns coming we on getting his revenge with the new day with the help of the new day and yet and Bray Wyatt show and Ray White and MS continuing their story there so no Ooh Women's Matt take shape. You mentioned Bailey side for Tlc this this weekend. This is a no no so that was what I watched Russell except except my back about it. Give out any moment all right. So let's Uber. I only come back While we was watching broken down. So Oh hello. This is what the news guy. So guys already aroused around. We will reach her Jon Moxley Aka Dean Ambrose Aka Mr Rene a yawn and when I'm not at the farm beating the shit out of chickens and drop kicking cows or taking a razor blade to my tongue just so I can feel the rush of love life. I'm listening to term tabloid with those two crazy mother fighters Jay santee and Wolski listen subscribed stream and download unload on. All podcasting is Social Media Outlets Ladies and gentlemen this is the main event of turnbuckle tabloid. This is wrestling rundown. Aw I don't even think I want to go through the whole thing goes. Why would foam I want you to announce the big thing that just occurred tonight. which is I know? Oh you're so happy to you. You're such a fan of this ring of honor. Just honored the biggest accomplishment that they've done in ring of on a history what Burn their company aground. Sure who didn't see this coming me. I really believe I didn't think remarketing could stoop fellow and they did Kevin L. D. near Gori Tyler. Bladder blasts Samoa. Josie and Paul Jay Lethal Jay. Briscoe Davey Richards. Those named Roderick Strong Wrong Adam Cole was there wasn't Nigel. McGuinness and PTO Jay lethal and now apiece CEO. I rouge was bad enough. What of YOU I? Yes or no will ring Oughta be brought out in a year. I don't think anybody who's GONNA WANNA buy it. It's that what happened anybody who wants coming soon. What the fuck happened anybody's nobody's GONNA buy? They're gonNA probably by for the library and that's it for the WWF on the network but there is there's a there's a conversation occurred broken. The there is a conversation that occurred which is Since NFC is now more than just a developmental product product shouldn't there be a developmental elemental problem for a product for developmental product. Which means they have evolve? They do volt coming soon. Maybe ring of honor should become a developer. Yeah it should be the new thing but where would that be held in the performance centre with no one. I I don't know that's just that's a new venture. Yeah bad maybe the ring of honor is bad ad and how old is Pto. And that's final battle. Fifty three fifty four Michelle. It's all the PHYA. Ah internal crazy triggers age into the old age home it is. Oh there's no way he's not that bad well how old he is fifty one. You're on point. I thought it was like sixty still. It's still up. There is is is is bringing mater. You done yeah that goes to show that they're they're yeah Jay Briscoe in in Gresham where the new tag champs Marcus hurt. Sasha notice lost is lost but I'm saying Jay Briscoe and yeah. They were the champions. He's lost though Bloomberg hurt. No he said Jay Briscoe and who the Briscoe lost to Gresh to Jalen and Grisham O.. J. Congressional genitals back. Yes Okay Champs Auger which. I'm so glad I was fast. He came back from his arm. So bad for the broncos. Because you know they're stuck that contract and so is lethal always guys are stuck. You're Mariscos Alto. And he's going. Awa cricketer lightning. Oh Hell you owe am on the money over there. We'll see him in lieu corporate make villa enterprises over there. That which is fine. I not it'll be a great thing for them. I can see I I think we're seeing a little too much staples he w Singles No. I can't even complain because like I said I love staples but the by the way we mentioned engine in aws week you saw the fucking another promo video dark order with them out with a mum with the guy who left squad by John Moxley. Yes we're tired of being a jobber I life. They said that in the video. Are you tired of being jobber. Yeah it's it's it's awesome. I love it. You don't like it. I don't know I think it's one of the things that we said before. I think you when you pull back the curtain a little bit too much. Yeah Yeah Yeah the chopper thing as always I am to. Howard started to segment Robin quivers? All Ski so scared and it was announced this week that the first inductees into the wwe the hall of fame or the N.. wwl Shit number one the N. W. and my man my husband and he get the dress dot com again for Halloween. Fuck you know. I never just opposite for Halloween. Where's the picture of approval? Go ahead xiaomi pictures no bigger okay. I'm I don't even you. How exact is White House and no provable Shit every no proof doesn't have replica wow am I say if his whole themes for The only thing that bothers me that it shouldn't be six. I should have been Big Dick Show Paul White because hey we what big show is not retired yet though. Yeah but he was the. If I'm not mistaken he was the fourth member of and W Nah fuck that. Where's their Bischoff in this shit? I think you'll get his own induction. Yeah but he should uh-huh wwl too but I think it should be exempt paula white beyond the giants. Maybe okay but you know. There's an abuser. There put the main being guys so and so the whole in Dutch party are both getting ring. All everybody's getting new rinks yes because Yeah so do realize that every single Shari you do realize the main attract hoping for the next twenty years and we'd always. CW guys right. It's this no not why because now they fucking are starting to realize that Goldberg N W of next year but but date is this. Is this nationalist. I ring second member. He's terrible final fucking speech deal for years ago. He took over ten minutes. It was like thanks. I guess. NAZCA NASCAR lately. NASHES inducted Bro. So this is all their second reign. Yes this is all their second rate Hulk Hogan Kevin Nash. That's just second xbox box I mo second whereas the ACCI- I won't end and Scowl hold back. Yeah Yep so what do you think about these inductions. You think they're they're fitting this time. While the best one is like you said petits teases great i. We saw his retirement match and now next year the fame. They're giving them exactly what he wants. Which by the way twenty one insider He's GonNa be pain in the new bad memory did they. He he was one of the studios week and he said the rules. Don't come to you so go get him. and He's been teasing fucking bean for the longest. What do you think that I think it works? I think it's cool. I think it's perfect fame. Actually I love Batista. You know my favorite I but he says I can't wait. Everyone was Johnson a fan. You're GonNa do the tattoos and everything. Okay even the new ones go. Fuck Yourself Congratulations to both grew. Batista End End WWL for being inducted this year's hall of fame. I think it's much deserved. That's it's awesome and I can't can't wait to see just like him again. It's going to be so also them while my back is is killing me. Okay hold on I got fucking. You Reap Matt Hardy this week posted on twitter after supposedly his last match in the company saying I need to return. WWE and finish in the right way. I didn't want to doesn't tend to be my finale. I return to the most epic way possible and repaid my debt. I waved wwe flag with pride and worked hard to be in a could be a model employee. My conscience is clear. I am piece. What does that tell you? He's done Yeah but then you find out his the mood for being an agent. That is true then. Ready Hardy goes on twitter and goes we paid your debt but they still Robert but in your face every chance they get. That's okay we don't pretend to less than perfect. Should never happened here with the tea EMOJI. Yeah but so what why is always GonNa make it like a problem though. You know what I'm money you don't matters a one but you know the money is at and at the end of the day. Okay if your schedule's going to be less because you just having having a third child and all that stuff and Awa going to provide you with that great and plus if they're gonNa give you the opportunity of being the creative guy that you who are your fantastic giddy but don't bullshit me and tell me that you don't want that fucking. WWe Love topping rabies front too much. I feel That's my opinion. I got to cut the shit out to be honest with you. And plus I don't think Matt wants that on social media. I feel like he just like okay like he likes the listen. He's not into a body. He knows what it is. He's like fucking I'm not gonNA I'm not GonNa say that her find comment fucking letter. Who cares he doesn't do see Mancilla weird you will see him on? Aws No I do. I do see him leaving the I do because I think they're going to give him the creativity that he wants to do. Nevada not as not as a wrestler. It's just visually. Let them do their whole be. Maybe make that whole That whole dock Jimmy off the dark order make it better. Yeah yeah his broken people or some. I'm cool with that Let's see how it is also one of my favorites. I have his autograph a figure in my room not touched so now he's only feverish. Thank you very much. Had I stay. WWe announced announced this week that Bollywood and Primo Cologne have been suspended for wellness policy violations. Whoops Daisy Oh God they have confirmed this. WWe said in a brief press. Release the company said. The wrestlers would be suspended for thirty days. It is their first violation and it was no. There's no word on what was in their system but it only guesses. I smoke a lot of weeds on It's probably the most stupidest stupidest shit. It's probably like we'd missing even Marie for nothing. I think he's probably the stupidest shit smoked weed or some Maria even fucking. Oh what's his name. Adam Adam rose yeah because of Franken like like depression medication. Some shit like we're seeing them Abi. Now take off the the we'd violation relationship. And and now W we we'd it's dumb. It's very done. It's very doesn't come on. I think we start getting. We'd lifted from everything of all sports. It comes to this so it's WWF. Wow that was going to be the rest. Yeah I was waiting for it. This is a good one this week. It was also announced him. WWe That we've gotten the releases of Lucar. You're the ascension and Wait is the ascension Lou Carbon Carter and sing wizard about last week. We said it they said I said Luke Harper are going to be the the the guys who probably draw draw and Essential Aka the unique oh which. WWe is still going to own a writing off it. It's who grant doesn't matter it should be that fuck initiative. Should I say all the goal was released and they put that Umberto Kerala were funded honey. Oh put him as Kara fucking character. Okay I'm cool with that. I'm sorry just do the next one I have. We talked about last week. Not just saying I guess Mugabe's it's all about. It's free. It's all your shit about this week. Big Cast threatened to kill Joey Genoa. Oh my God you're talking about people who wants to stay in a fucking goes. Hey Janetta say when we're we're about me in your life will be in your earlier life and real talk Hashtag how you doing Yeah you say that that with the Hashtag how you doing. What tough guy does that? Sure you HASHTAG. I'm a body. You saw Sunday you has. Ted is boy like stay as boy. That's Hashtag how you doing is almost if you saying. I'm GONNA kill you. How you doing wink wink? I'm GonNa Suck Your Cock while you'll be cast is giving it was how you're doing with. No I know what it is has won a stupid dom this is after Casting general got into an altercation Eto at an event and Jello declined to press charges at the event Kassebaum CAST apologize but now he threatened to kill him on social media again. Can we just can we just go to the big cash to straight up on safer himself and just needs to get help. Listen a lot of people don't need to be all social media. That's one of those people. Guess of sorts of me. You know what it is when I see people who say bullshit you gotta learn not fucking pay attention to it. Just stay away from it but these guys just to stay relevant and to see my day are partisan they you have to make comments about shit. Yeah so of Georgia. Why can't you saying? Hey stupid you just whatever I just not look at it right. Yeah Yeah I don't know it's stupid ridiculous pickle q quick rundown about what you have newsletter magical angsty no no it was The Royal Rumble. Apparently there's talks of which I hate talking about rumor mills but I thought it was pretty interesting with him. Ah Is that for the royal rumble. Dizzy are are they gonNA change it. They're going to change it up to wear now since it was the whole invasion kind of angle worked for everybody this past summer survivor series. So what they're going and to do as they they wanna have something that ties into it in royal rumble which is ten inches or coming from role tempus down and ten from NFC. The winner gets to decide decide. You know what respective brand new WANNA go up against the champ. Wow that's cool right. The only problem that I have with that is that mean when we lose the surprise entrance we do to surprise entrance. And that's actually the big gimmick that we have fun with which who that sucks. I love surprises. Those are the best parts of actually what we fund. It almost makes me say for the rubble. What does it almost make not almost makes me Say Remember when the forty member about a royal shoes AIDS. We're going on. Let's do that together. Gesner surprise entrance. Ten ten fridge brandon ten surprise like the other thing is i. Don't tell people just do it. Just fucking yeah exactly. Let's do it because it it just seemed like then the next few people be surprises without even knowing. So that's pretty interesting. I will see how the energy coming up really soon next month. Actually really so damn resumes almost upon us again. Jesus Christ I know I did it for W W WE INEX- TO UK's Piper Naven was just as announced that she suffered a she has suffered a bout of Bell's Palsy I just wanted you to tell the audience listening audience here. Who are concerned? Is this careered. Light is who's going threatening now. Is this basically belt policy. Basically a muscle degenerate general degeneration kind of disease or illness but it is not something that's debilitating. You can still do. What you gotta do? it's one of those. It's like a spell. Sometimes he'll go away. Yeah and it's not only because always people thinks about. It's it's on your face. It happens on on body parts. It's really yeah it's such it's not your face okay. Well I get better fella and just Fella Eh. She's Irish Latin whereas all ski for the Pop. Aw that was terrible and finally the last piece of news I have is Awa announced their next week review which is called revolution. What do you think cliche? Hey how was that cliche name just own. It's almost as as take they're going to be at Chicago again. No no really. They're really suck into Congo deep over. I guess it's like their New York for W I guess W E loves their New York that I get that AH review really fucking ear. It hasn't been every. Paper has been ninety percent of their views and tapping algebra. Yeah Oh just quickly. Just you WANNA go with Jim. Ross says register go back on Steroids it's like okay. Billy Graham really guy he says it's an entertainment sport Unless you told you tell me that. There's no clear indication that anything that has to do with steroids and any heart attacks strokes or anything there. There's there's no clear. Indication that that dared don't relate to each other folks would you. I'm good with it but case ace I always said the same thing you'll fuck it. Put everyone and see what happens but why this is that it requires him. Barry Bonds. Exactly you get that whole enlargement largest of the heart and kind of thing. What do I know? I'm not a doctor. Jim Rose and Jim Ross. University motherfucking does any billy Graham and and AWS ticket sales have been a problem too. Apparently they were saying that this past week that one whole side of I saw was empty. They're selling it as this. We already knew what it was. And sending out. Four thousand five hundred tickets was a plus for us. We thought that we are going to the Gordon. Shit that they howling people. I've been saying it for the log is they're not ready. You guys have a niche audience audience and especially where you going. Yeah Chicago it will be because your audience is Dan. That's The New York is where you're GonNa go because your audience is there by the way I say. Don't don't fucking promise fucking event in New York glory when you know you can't do that brother exactly stop it. Wow just saying you know what I'm saying. Exactly stop it. You know you if you can't promise unless you know we're going to do at at fucking Christ the king fucking hikes excursion. paramore's paramore fucking on the Sony Studios. I mean come on. It's only who the status of Saint John's fucking way or I can get you into my Hulu. I think now are the. I'm going to be before I I sure yeah. I'm Marie pay for. I already bought it. Okay fuck it fuck it so here. You're losing losing losing you losing audience. But it's not losing audience. It's just what it is wherever you going to. You're not gonNA pack house because not everybody's a real diehard dot Wednesday night fan on a Wednesday night. It doesn't work that way. It's not it's not like back in the seventies or the eighties shit. NOPE NOPE NOPE and Last Ashley of of o ratings came out and apparently there were tied. Who Cares? I see and AWA title Wednesday. They both had seven hundred. Seventy eight thousand viewers good numbers for people the numbers from both sides. Though that that's a good number on a Wednesday. Yeah over a million people. Were just watching listening. That's what barriers and People that are big fucking fight like oh my bra but I said it was going to happen is the the numbers are going to taper often does just what had happened. Then I'm gonNA taper off jerk. Oh and one more quick. No Jericho had a meeting with the fucking people about that saying that the honeymoon phase is fucking him over. Fix The fucking rules and detecting matches suck you which you're proud of Jericho I say. Of course it's true. Jerko going against his own company just being honest this was ruining our show right now. The honeymoon phases over the tech team rules make no sense. He was burying the refs. And that's just scratching the surface. Yes that's basically the women's division is terrible bad as much as you want to sit there and say it's fast like we don't care about whose lose face a he'll know stupid do as part of the battle between good and evil. It's called Comic Bookstore exactly and finally when it comes to you guys when you guys have great great stars in it but you don't have the greatest so if you really great though but you gotta you gotTa build who you got. You got to really build your Omega Moxley. Hangman Shawn Spears. Years was the Sunday Guevara. You're too busy trying to make these indie stars fucking stars and it's like no one cares they don't fucking care fuck butcher the blade fuck the dark order to mark fucking demarco stunts. Nobody he cares. They don't fucking care only in these stars that over right now fucking private party and ten. Let's say they don't fucking in care. Nobody else cares about nobody else. Darby Alan Darby Dr and I like what they did with Dr With Darby this week a friend I liked to put. Anybody has a psych bro. You Got Fucking do your research and find guys that's going to be something legit settlers wearing people out here and we don't even tell us w W eastern you bold. Why are they throwing you balls? Because not only do they released guys but they only they also released is who are in there fucking late thirties early forties. Yep Yep so oh and now that I'm thinking about these guys are older academics and win Kober ascension. They're older guys and they're going to have a good i. I think they're gonNA be great for the whole pulls career. Whatever analogy essentially another dark team? Awa can you be a little more positive. Jesus crush talk and what you're doing. I'm tapping number guys. Back is guys they were we. Come back we're GONNA have a great conversation with indie sensation from the east coast. Then doing the business for the past three years and I gotta say that. He's on a come up. good-looking Gentlemen Anna from the mean streets of Brooklyn Dominic the narrow stopping in and discussing not only his front time in the beginnings and his thoughts of wrestling but also when he gets his weight equipment. One he got the WHO got the the hookup. Is You know certain people that we know. I guys don't go into a stick around. We will return a- talk I got the wrong number man. I'm sorry it's it's not the try and in the meeting of the minds the hottest in wrestling right now Visually are finally able to speak to each other. Yeah man you know Eventually about along you know A.. Hacks as in Rome make just like Dominic Deniro. I know right. It's crazy how it works with remarkable. You're breaking up a little bag or he'll go I'm back. I usually people on the other breaking up. It's the the star of the show. We have in a breaking up line. Every I like I said People people said well you guys like twins I know me and dominic is just. I know I hate when people do that to us so I get that all the time and so how was the worker. So how's everything today. You know. I ended up missing the workout because had a little. I just had for dinner but thankfully I have a gym in my house. So I'm about to get to it and watch Monday night. Roy Interview. Funny I was going to ask you about that being at indy wrestler. And being in the business do you still watch. The the main stuff to mean. Product is of the because a lot of people. I don't know if they're being cavalier. which is being pompously but they know how to really watch it you know? Just try to stay clear. URVA I keep up with it and I won't say I'm home at eight o'clock back to watch it. You know on given nights but I definitely like to keep up with the storylines and see which which trending what's what's right and what's wrong and just to see what these marks were always complaining about. There's always something you and looking for something. He's still a fan can i. Yeah Yeah could I curse. Of course. Yeah I mean I just advanced because it might slip out you know I just I get all worked up please out. The profanity is our second language here. Besides a besides ridiculousness profanity is our second second language or nothing author languages sarcasm as well so we we basically flew in and out as well right so so So it's been it's been it's been it's been a ride for you because These days is the You know the typical wrestler is not what it used to be. Everybody wants the you know they figure that resting is like the six foot. Four two hundred eighty five eighty five pound monster serve a guy and Yin. You're you're a little bit of the opposite of that aren't we. Well Yeah you know I I don't know about five nine one ninety My taxi partner underhanded six three three hundred pounds. But that's another story you know But the indie be seen you get along you get a lot of smaller wrestlers. And that's not the surly bad thing I mean we bring a whole different element to the table. I mean and and if you look at MMA and if you look at like karate and boxing the smaller dunes aware that man that's where the action that you know. Have you way they seem to blow out fast. You know we you can go you know and I think it's our time yet shoe shoe because Silence issue because When you look at it when you look what do you mentioned? Boxing and stuff like heavyweight division. Hasn't been what it used to be. I mean these past couple of years. You see like the fury's wilders and stuff like that but it wasn't really that big. It was always like the guys you see the the the the world to rates. Lean on the bathroom where those guys will really were ones that were catcher. Everybody's as attention and it seems as though that does it did transition a wrestling especially when it came to the scene when you when you wanted to become a Wrestlemania Lisa fucking. This is what's GonNa Happen. Did you feel intimidated with the fact that that's what was going to be. That guy. Had the bulk up do something. He'll you just said fuck it. I'm just going to be you know I'm GonNa be dominant can do what I do. I was fortunate to be surrounded by the right people and my trainer grim reefer. You know he's the man shot out the grim refer You know he's not the biggest guy either so I identified with you know style that he brings to the table. And you know that that's never been a main concern. Among Mike my size grin we've had grim on a show a couple of times funny as dude he word. Oh Yeah Grill. He has one he had probably best lines. We we have we actually call them up on on a whim and For like a good ten minutes he didn't want to do the interview and finally do we. We coerced him. Just feel like we caught him in the middle of something. We're not quite sure what it was. I hope it wasn't something illegal just as I okay good. I won't be fucking News Joe's but how long have you been how long you trend with REEFA. So around. Like December December of two thousand sixteen. When I started training we used to? We used to share I. Trade that of F. T. W. fight the world wrestling along with Gabriel sky. My partner Chris Bar Right and cure oaklawn. You know Okuda men are Khuda cooter. The owner of the School Shout Their Okuda. Brian idle. Yeah we used to school with how glory out in Ridgewood and Gregory who was the head trader. There and you know it was really cool man like we met we. We met at the Hong Show and my right and I always find. We met right at the mattress memorial right. Yeah and just touch on that like you know Matt and the Hog guys. It's always good to us. They would come out and train with us and show us some stuff. The rights wrongs they would spend time and talk to US afterwards and You know try to point us in the right right direction. So shutouts everybody House award for that. Yeah that's what their initial. Jim was there. Initially were there and I remember number. I remember when when House Gloria and fight the world. What have these you know collaboration shows and stuff like that and to see either talent that they had coming out of their way? It was one of those things that it was like a competitive but yet friendly kind of of competition and Brian always always gives loves a shoutout. Earl he says Oh Khuda is one of those guys. That's always going to be a brother to him. And what was it that actually drew you to go to F T. W what was it that that said that this was going to be the training facility for me. All right so A friend of mine years. We grew up watching wrestling. We'd go the vents together he He asked me if I wanted to go to legends bar one night for Paper viewing and this was four. And we didn't know they had paid for viewings for such events and and I think it was the TLC of the wwe right so we go in there with twisted man. Teddy long was there. I ended up buying a suit off Kim for like two hundred bucks. 'cause I was just drunken thought it was a good idea. So I'm just like walking around with his shiny suit and I come across his name Ace Andrus and at at the time. He was the F.. T. W. jenex champion. And you know he's parade in his belt around. You know trying to promote the school and try to get people out of the shows and You Know He. He approached me. I started shitting on the title. A little bit. You know 'cause I was drunk and I was just GonNa did but eventually he wanted me over and the very next stay I went down to you. Know I went down to Ridgewood. I make grim refer you put me in. The rain started bumping around. The rest is history so basically. It's just one of those on a whim you just went said. Hey Fuck it I'll give it a shot and it's it's something I always. He wanted to do but like it was never really in front of me. The opportunity and I didn't know how to go about it so I was. I felt like this was like God. Just like you know giving me assigned assigned right right and I'm so glad I did because I wouldn't regret it if I'd never gotten to this business. It's it's my life now. I always I always see people are putting your life for a reason and that night would have been. was that night to start the ignition. Like that that fire that you already had ready to go absolutely absolutely and and the friend that brought me. They're like we haven't hung out in long time. You reached out to me like hey man I know what your birthday recently. Let's go grab some drinks and it's funny because I'm thinking on the rest of i. It met someone recently and it was through. Wrestling was aimed same kind of stories. I A friend of mine who we really hang out there like. Listen you WANNA go check the lead in in Philly and I'm like yeah sure and we go to Philly. And on the way back he goes. Hey you I i. It was a matter of fact. I'm in the neighborhood. I know object that you'll you'll be into my I agree and I think we're wrestling these days. Her and I know I don't know but it's it's funny because you come off as a guy who's been in the business for so long but it's only been three years and you know I. I guess that goes to proper tutelage with the reverse the coolers and guys around. How is it that you've been able to transition arresting so easily do you think is the training wise also that you just we've always athletic well I paid a lot of business in a short amount of time and I continue to I I worked Brian. Okuda for a minute. just you know bringing the rings to Shows different promotions you know setting up networking and eventually that caught on and a lot of people just gave me a shot and I gotta Say I took the ball and ran with it. You know you you come over. When we met? We met at the House of Glory. Show you really really easy. Talk to Kinda Guy Plus you with airway where Kiro quality was Tristan and stuff like that and You guys just You look like one of those. Those those guys that easy to to gravitate to be two. He'll be two phase whatever the case may be. How is it that you're able to to work on developing being your character your gimmick you the guy that's because the promos I should be I should be you know I'm very hitter Mr Promos? You know I'm trying to be myself and two thousand but I don't think the world is ready for that. I don't think I'm ready for that. You know I try. I try to tone down what I am in the ring opposed to what I realized like. You said I'm pretty approachable. You know you speak to different person at any given moment and they could give you a different for an opinion on me In terms of developing character man. Yeah it's just it's just a little of me and what I grew. Walk around you know. I grew up around hanging around the streets and stuff like that. I've had a little bit of a rough childhood no in and out of schools and stuff like that always fighting and get into trouble and stuff like that right so you know that rebellious nature kind of like bounces off and I believe that's what my character detract to conduct. That's why we because you see we're we're we're we're we come from the same background in which I see that a lot of us When it comes to the wrestling game we've all Komo from like that whole background of being in the rough and tough neighborhood? Inner City was back in the day in New York. You know it's not the same like it was you know this justify shit as anybody will do not know Bro. That offended me I'm offended. I'm sorry I'm Caucasians. y'All y'all sensitive show. Sorry is that Jeff. I'm calling the COPS. Fuck that's right. I'll just go down now of Cornet. It's okay it's fine. We'll we'll we'll all go down together but thank God and I'm a coordinate starting directive. Now it's all right. I'm a coronet guys like fuck Where where where you grew up in New York grew up in Carroll Gardens Brooklyn as they call it now as we would like to refer to their South Brooklyn which is not really South Brooklyn but it's off the line? It's close to closer to waterfront. Oh no but please I. I grew up with my family. Grew up in red hook so I know exactly where we ought to basically wrestlers over past in the sixties. They kind of you don't separate at the areas. Yeah Yeah Yeah I'm glad you know about Red Hook. No please please family in the eighties and early nineties was re route projects. The Oh exactly how I was in the mix exactly yeah. It's it's funny because every time I hear task talk about Red Hook and I'm going oy where where he was. I see him out there where we at but no god is not you right in precipice you got rid hook you. Have you see you see some shit. Yeah man you know at one point. It wasn't the prettiest neighborhood like down towards go on. It's you know and remember as a kid. I wasn't even allowed down there. I mean I'd go down there anyway but I see why my parents wanted me down there. You know like you know drug-related I in two she and this and that With The Times have changed. Yeah it's it's one of those things to where we come from this kind of environment we come from his. It's funny because my col- sees from the main streets of Glendale whatever and he has always been like he always says he says he goes. Man I wish I grew up in the nineties in La Maybe maybe you don't. I don't think he really wanted to kind of error. You wanted to be around but with that or no was. It's always been a thing. That wrestling was a thing that you always watched. It was something that you you you grab that you just went home on Mondays and watch the roles or the WCW machos and stuff like that man as a kid. I watched the Monday night the Monday and I was you know we had the hot boxes back in the day. I mean I don't often get in trouble for this but we used to watch our papers legally we have also. Ah Like I would keep up with everything you know. Switching back and forth I would start on nitro started eight o'clock and then You know switch back and forth between that and roll two thousand and three kind of offer a little bit and then me and my cousin just started going through northeast. Wrestling shows up in poughkeepsie. Sometimes on at like two thousand nine and stuff like that. I got back into indy wrestling. Learned about ring of honor worried about Perecent guerrilla eventually you know all these other other brands and motions and stuff like that and you know what really caught my eye. But I never really thought. At that time I could see myself doing that. You know it's funny you mentioned that because Well we were coming up. Really wrestling on. Our side wasn't easy to find. It wasn't easy to get to you know we had you know. I see w you had the doghouse. The House and stuff like that but it wasn't really really prominent as it is now at these days. We were benefiting because you have all all these promotions all up and down your city be WF BC W. H.. Oh Jeez I C. W It's it's it's everywhere when you turn your head. You've got outlaw wrestling. We're we're they're everywhere now. We had to literally scrap and search to find indie shows. When you went to when you go into these shows was still like the thing like a fucking shit? I could get an errand do that. Do Not until I started training not until I started training to be to to be honest with you. You know like it. It was always a fantasy but until it became like a reality then I finally started to see the big picture of it. You know throughout the three years training damage such careers. I should tell you I know I listen I I said the same thing. I've been podcasting for almost six years and I'm like shit and then doing the wrestling shows is three years coming and I go. What the fuck am I doing with my life but at least what you? There's the road does the road dares come rotary with with with with wrestlers did The experience you're gaining and stuff like that. Has It. Been One of those things that you look at yourself and you get the aches and pains. Wake up in the morning and you're like what the fuck am I doing absolutely dude absolutely now that you no cure tie whatever you WANNA call them. I I keep calling about both his. Name's GonNa love that. We talk you know now that he's injured and how he got injured. Explained to exactly how it happened. And you know we all suffer for mason pains and wear and tear and it it. It's it's open my eyes alight and it has me you know taking care of my body a little bit better. I'm icy more. You know they can try to like after workout stretches and stuff like that just like you know. Stay on top of myself no. It's good that I'm feeling. Yeah Man. I'm feeling it like you know my my team right now. I don't know what I did. I think I've been banned myself the other night I slid into the ring. Bang my Fi- so damn hard Oh on the fucking on the ring frame all men. I'm feeling like getting out of bed in the morning. And it's always one of these things from when I hear from from wrestlers installs weird occurrences that it could be the. It's not even like the biggest spot it could be the littlest and it'll it'll blow me. Tearing Achilles your your goes beyond your break a femur. It's just the littlest things that I happen. Do you go in that. You know. It's kind of silly because you don't go in that mindset of taking off Shit I don't WanNa fucking fuck myself up now but is it hard to battle that you can't you. Can't you have to learn. You have to learn at an early stage as I did that. You have to put that in the back of your mind. You know shorts there you have to keep control on it and you can't let that fuck with you know your performance or the way you approach anything or you know. That's when you get hurt when you hesitate. I just thought a body. You Duane. You're talking how do you mind me asking. How old are you thirties? An exact age. Yeah Yeah we could. We could say that good okay because like I said you you look like a a young man is it. Seemed like you come off like Like some some Geriatric fucking wrestler as I would be in the day in this day and age. I wasn't going to ring what they came with the tennis. Balls on the bottom of the shit but no but you still you still you still like a young man. You still look like you could give booked way how. How has it been one of those things that people Kinda know age does age have has been really a matter when people book you'll like fucking throw them on throw them in there? You've never been a problem so far. I mean like you said a lot of people think I'm like in my mid twenties which I should have gotten the business. You mentioned the Doghouse. Gosh and there was also the Louis back in the day shit. My mind was right in the twenties. I'd be a lot further ahead than I am now. I'm just grateful to be in the business and all listen it it it time time is there and it. Lets you know when things are ready for you and this is what it was who knows. He probably did a younger. You've probably been an ASO. You know probably wouldn't take it as serious as you do you do now. You know I I. There's a lot of people that that put me onto you as well and I I I've seen I've seen you on the social media's on the outlets on one of my one of my good friends who who does the show Hank Flanders Talk to me about you as well and you know you're a ring. Workers is is one of those that has been progressing very quickly that a lot of people didn't know. Oh were you. Did you always partake in outside stuff. Maybe you know like I always tell people especially New York a handball kind of guy. I had my fair share handle games. I agree you know. I grew up. Catholic school. We played basketball all football baseball throughout you know a lot of lessons middle school high school I played I wrestled for a little bit in high school until the I don't know for me. And they kicked me off team. Was It really that man. I just wasn't really. Was It really that bad in Carol Garden. It was really so I went to. I want this very high school out in Bay Ridge. All boy school says he was very serious very severe and was always in wars with Bishop Ford and Bishop Blog Lynn. And all that stuff. And if you didn't commit it was I ended. They weren't like they weren't even Severi in at the time we were. I'm very good at many moments. They really were looking for everybody because David always competing man. I don't know our football was on point. I'm going to ask every year. No football was fine but you guys were were pushing when it came to basketball because I know a lot of basketball teams that came in and beat the Shit Outta. Yeah I your hockey and Bishop Ford was also so had a good hockey team to they used to whack the shit out of speaking Bishop Ford. I'm in my weight room right now and my roommate local three electricity and he was working at Bishop. Ford right DOC converted into another school and they were just throwing all their weights away. I'm just looking at my weight rack and I have every dumb though I need. God bless God bless Catholic schools. I guess the word that we will use his day like to donate this is definitely a donation that own used. How is how is it that these days now first but before that you're talking about Wrestling you do have an outside Gig right. It's not just wrestling. No no I work construction or construction and from time to time. You know when I'm available. I'll provide the ring coach. Certain shows looking at you know for cooter and You know try to keep myself busy with some other another side side jobs and stuff like that. It should be snowing soon. I have a pretty lucrative snow removal business. Oh Nice yeah I I used to. I used to sell Christmas industries in the wintertime. I don't know why this year that she would have been Mexico. I was GonNa tell me that USA crack I was like Holy Shit for people do when when we go all fan. We'll talk about that. You got the plug. I'll still smoke. Bessette probably around the holidays that white white people in that Christmas sweaters and listen. You know that's why that's why they wear it because they're on drugs so what what What what is it that have been driving you right now to to continue to do this? I mean like I said. We talked about the aches and pains whatever. But has it been a a think to now the bookings coming more or that. You're you feeling it you've seen the development. You feeling as though that this is happening is this. Are you really has it. Come to set in say fuck. I'm a wrestler. This is what I do as of recent yet man and You know it's it's starting to humble me in ways that I never thought I'd be humbled you know this this businesses like taking the in and give me a reason to like you know she my dreams and and just really be who I WANNA be. No everybody I need in. My journey has been very very nice to me and help me out and in return. I do the same to everybody. I come across that needs to help you know this is a big family and the shot just the wrestler and since the photographers people backstage. It's the it's the fans it's people podcast. There's one big family man and It's exactly what I needed if it wasn't wrestling. What what what? What would have been the other dream the other goal would it have been Hip Hop Star would have been It was and we went out and tell you man. It was a dream of getting rich in a way that you shouldn't be getting rich. You know Yeah let's just keep it at that state. Wrestling has saved my life. Blood numerous ways you a friend of ours in certain ways. Yeah you'RE GONNA need. Do we know certain people who do we know a sonny black sunny sunny read. This is what I'm saying. I you know I got I got I mean. Ask about job where I grew up where I grew up. That wasn't too far from me. I grew up in Williamsburg and like green point was right not that far away and it's like I've run into a couple of friends I I know a couple of the people. I don't know if you said Saudi black and sunny right we got talion. vinnie red Biz million rides have been bunch of many blacks the little joes and their their fat Joe's a fat. Yeah no sometimes sometimes they actually live. You could just Schratt okay. So it's like an honor to call Joe like you know 'cause he's like taking prime inside a big junior. There's always a big junior or something like that. Yeah that Ironic Shit like that. Yeah junior and he's like a fucking four hundred pounds of propel ahead on and should believe hat correct term for uh-huh I only learned that because already landfill now when he was a Howard stern he made up fucking detonated when I was like okay. I'M GONNA run with it. How is it that How how is it? How's it the real the real meat and gravy? I mentioned earlier. You're not a bad looking individual. You're good looking man. You look you look like you Bloomberg you pull your your your your way in some strange if you know what. I mean. Wink wink nod. Krishna is has the Libor Fron has has the ladies of been. Do they come easy being a wrestler. I mean they say when you're a wrestler. You're at least you're automatically twenty percent more attractive regardless if you are not so that it could be that you know it could just be that that little bit of fame that makes me that attractive. I duNno I duNno. Why don't you go from automatic eight and a half when your resume? Exactly you know like I mean for me like an eight to nine and a half. I'd like to consider concerned you. I'm John Joking joking. Then look at how humble wheel with a name Dominic Deniro. You better bring the money wink wink now. The Charles my actual shoot last name. No really yeah hold yes shit you made for the business then is out. It was either that or use rhyming with third base assumption that you had to be like a rapper. It had to be one of those two guys named Mike that. Wow that's crazy shit okay. I wish I'd have fell for an into a good shoot name that transition. It's a wrestling. I had to convert my shoot at a brief. How's it feel dominated by real waving? Dominic is not the real name Dominic. Okay so you flip the other away got you got you. Yeah I couldn't. I couldn't get rid of the narrow dude. That's just swab such a it's such a it's a cooling. Yeah why would Growing up. How was the family life Mom Pop do we have the data going on man. My parents are still together. You know going attic attic bickering over everything. But you know you know that old school way of just like you know you ride it out right so you know we go we. Could you know my father on a couple of businesses growing up that I always work for worked for his construction company. been so he had an Italian Deli back in the day. That was A. Yeah and then you had. You had to see me when I was a kid. I was a little butterball really. I'd be making. I'll be making a sandwich. Two slices on the sandwich can slices in my mouth. It'd be one of the pocket for afterwards. So what was the Swiss. When was it that we so we know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA hit? The Gym goes goes all work. And how was it. You know the the maturity Click ended Do we do. We have to go through a certain metamorphosis in high school. Did this happen. Well you know my weight always looks waited It's easy for me to burn to burn it off. And it's also easy for me to put on muscle. Some reason like like Tristan hates that about me. It's like I'll work out with them and like I'll I'll show so much more definition than in but he will outlive me by so much. Oh please please Asian. He enjoys fucking whatever as a should. That boy is stroke. That boy strong yeah and and and and looks at it. Looks like it. Kicks Him as an and and being able to fuck in intimidate a big weightlifter. De Dad doesn't understand that little guys can do it too but you look as stolen you able to handle yourself was it was street fighting as well like I think you've done a grown up as well was that a part of the rough and tumble double streets of Car Akara Gardens at thumping was one of the things you had to do. Absolutely man you know we used to we used to. It was like the warriors every neighborhood had clicks and and You know you have to. You have to stand your ground now with a mock. Wait a minute. Here's your friends. Note that you were wrestling fan and give you shit for no no we all we used to. We didn't like backyard Russell but we used to like like you know drink some beers in the park and stuff like that just at each other pile drivers drivers and dumps it. Sounds like I once I once I once rush like Willie my my friend let me. Russia likes him and he just like crack the the back of his had open. And then we just tape some bounty to head and we continue to drink and that sounds like my old neighborhood. I'll miss as those days him taking the mattresses out and just throwing somebody in a piledriver or power bombing them and A special mattress is a good idea. We should look for one of those concrete or a car hood because the car was somehow safe. We thought the car hood. Yeah that's definitely one. We have to make sure that we have to emulate the the Eddie Guerrero and and fucking Andy the the junkyard matches Shit Shit we had to emulate that before I let you go because I said wow petition damn thirty minutes what what do you think Santa should bring you for this year as wrestling was what would it be a good gift that Santa should bring you Santa. Please bring me some risk tape I can you some Pam. 'cause fuck that baby oil shit A couple of pants wrestling shoes. Maybe some kick peds you know a little bit of protein powder. I've been a good boy. This year says the Emmy and was there to make me come to the North Pole. I hate resolutions. But what's it going for for twenty twenty twenty twenty the goals of twenty twenty s to get out of New York as much as possible. I'm trying to hit at least two new states per month You know it's the big golden set but you know it's something that I'm GonNa work hard towards you know I'm already reached out to multiple commotions outside and state get out of my comfort zone. That's the only the thing that I truly think is GonNa bring me to the next level. Listen let me If you don't mind me doing so I know I know a couple of promoters who've been hitting me up and I'll throw your name out there if you do you want me to go back and put it out there much appreciated man. It's all. Look Yeah I say you sure we can show you. Show me love the day at the Mat Travis attributable show which by the way just quickly you could just because it's this next couple of weeks we were going to be talking about him and what he left behind. What was it a relationship they should that you and Travis at all right so going back to training and Ridgewood when our screw up? Twa Hawk was merged so we used to train and at the end of the night. You know how guys would be back playing and sixty four wrestling games and whatnot. And they had the big speakers set up and you would hear the EC- W theme come on on the EC. W team came on. That meant they were going to come out and GONNA kick our ass. So they would outnumber outnumber us like five to one or five or whatever and they would like literally just stop us out in the rain. Hit us with all their finishes and stuff like that and it was actually. He's pretty funny because over the weeks and months would fight back which eventually led to an eight-man was like me. Gabriel sky and two other kids. I can't remember member at the moment gets a mattress private party and read. And I'll never forget that 'cause that was such a big learning experience that they didn't have to do that and it took time out of their day to come and shopping herself. Wow that's really cool I you know I never really I mean I've heard a relationship between F.. T. W. an in house built about but I didn't think that You guys did stuff like that. And that's that's fucking awesome at. That's a wildly. Say He didn't have a lot of times. People have like. Does this chip on their shoulder and animosity with other promotions or other schools. Like fucked. And we AIN'T GONNA do shit for them but I guess that's just Guys is like Brian Excelled and amazing red. Who are are those that do the pay it forward and look for guys? And and that's what Matt Travis was trying to emulate with his wrestling his in his in his lifestyle and an accident. It was a big loss for lesson community in life man but Dominic let everybody know what it could get. You could connect with you and catch me on twitter instagram or facebook. Dominic the narrow that simple if I could. I'd like to plug the Bronx Wrestling Federation Youtube and Instagram's you give them a follow. Please give CDW DOJ awards or follow one use youtube in instagram. I mean a lot Those boys over there and doing a Lotta work Yeah Wow August. Twenty Twenty Dominic Deniro. Let's get him get him to Dallas is getting them papers get him. Don't go anywhere yet. Because that's shacking up the money back. Don't go anywhere yet because I would like you to cut a promo was not a promo for us but guys oh go where we're going to wrap disappeared tabloid don't go anyway stick around. We will return turnbuckle tabloid The Term Buckled tabloid.

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Lorraine Kelly

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30:29 min | 1 year ago

Lorraine Kelly

"Hello there i'm jenny folk and and today we have less this should do and headed to tally lands yet in west london at television center you'll find the hub of breakfast and daytime tv shoes you wake up to her broadcasts from here at some shows i have on do still work on from time to time i'm talking gm be lorraine this morning they are old record here well today t i've gotten appointment with one name everyone knows having worked on tv m g mtv and her very own shows she is absolutely the queen of breakfast tally can you believe she's been doing it three decades she's quite frankly clean amazing everyone loves are bad manners right come on let's go in living in thank you for coming in joining the run portland club thank you feel video owner is really strange chat austin and helping when you buy covering for some donald you're yes great but i never asking you questions new new no it's all just having a child early which is what would you do which is what were ten states but it's a bit more by running unless about showbiz what about you and i usually good i it's interesting 'cause we were talking and you said actually although you've done a law firm then you're not doing so much nice so hopefully at the end of this chat you will be desperate good trainer go and go i used to really enjoy well the thing is i think what happened to me in running because i saw at the view sure because of his that means ten in whenever student madison's could believe it and often for madison's thirty london one new york on of course running is all part of the cheating and it became a bit slow duly on tuesday it's magical isn't that much because you know you've done go shoot on so many and you're just so brilliantly i mean i think you'd whom sitting having a cup of tea in a biscuit where lava tough we do you know the first time right so i haven't done our thing and well arena i used to work at ge mtv together at lorraine obviously the queen mtv and me like the little girl and i remember i came in on monday one time i think i'm a student something on your show and you came in with sore feet 'cause she'd you've done the mouth of the day before wow i hadn't even considered did wanna that stage it's amazing when you start you can do even someone like me who's you know back then particularly the first one i did discover the fifteen years ago an award isn't particularly fitch but it's incredible once you start running you're fitness level just skyrockets but also are facing an even those tough and you know what it's like because especially with london it's in april so you're cheating billy descend before dumping november december only to winter not too high school and junior speaking ace not so fun size ended up going i running and sheepskin gloves this show no snow right knew i knew so much much easier if you're if you're doing it and so rather than up there but i find i find it really could give me to help me new initially token but not fifteen or twenty years ago nobody would start seeing the benefits you know all the benefits you're bored it you know what have you have you made you feel better not say and how you you know you windows up and you had much energy no stop and that's fantastic but i just find mentally it really helped there's just something i don't know if he 'cause you you have you have hatred in no time to think about stuff and you think about i mean my mind goes wherever you walk the number my main just walking and i'm running but it's amazing what it can do for you how much better you feel afterwards nothing really good it's almost like give me a brain sprinkly they're credible i just think it's like tight and also i mean when when i start doing all the running much light you if it's a while ago there were animal buffoons emails coming in overtime but even eat none of it's a nice break away from that from layton olympics athletes it's like a detroit and the thing that's really important for all of us you know whether it's running or or walking woke heavily earlier and or just if you're not home doing would count it it's like this leads to these things but ups and of course the billion you're not enough when it tells me how many steps have done in how you you know with all the fountainhead sleep patterns and what have you that brilliant it absolutely terrific but we shouldn't be glued to we do need to look at pictures of cats folding river 735 limit of their life and they some of the worst is when you go to already starting to people are note speaking to another note on the phone and you want to know are you see among these wonderful dinner catch this stuff like mom and they're not paying any attention and you say well i know it's just thinking back to all those years ago the technology they had they not they won't come in do you remember i remember running with a desk man shove it in my bras video and you had a thing that could grungy are you could stick you're you radio in their forgiveness stick it was crazy hunter absolutely crazy things of of going naomi's suit 'cause i actually think that dude just listening to music when i'm running i think that's really important arena make bulkiness whale and it's really interesting talking to you and seeing how amazing you look the actually i've coached dot i mean i do a little bit of running but i think a good start doing my thing because you never see a high peed on there but that's because they're cly harry to say like and i i think having said that nobody's gonna be giving you know from you if you especially if you are kind of concentrating i suppose you you do believe that it is good for you it's good for you and i and i and i think is what the great thing about it is i don't like and i didn't like him i've never really i think i joined a gym once and then of course who knew overweight and do it twice and john judy never went by the thing about running is get yourself a good peter trainers oviously 'cause you don't want to damage your feet but then it's free yeah it's and even if he lives in such you need if you live in london a gospel birmingham whatever the pox unders hopefully you know walkways by the river the dark places you can go it's just getting that motivation isn't it the door that's the hardest thing couldn't shoes on and getting at the door and then it'll be so so you've done for my sins member old and she was working with light when you were much joy did you have a friend you know this is a bad thing i did stories that this choice do you find people in new york city became and she said are you might have said coat tails you don't she thinks she's been postponed innocent shoes and i would buy the baby will have to run amok devoid with amazing experience to take seriously i think in some ways in london you didn't get any but you're dressed as a hip who you know i mean when i did the demise overtaken by a guy dressed as a coach kosti cut up his loyalty dominance in in new york it wasn't be late and you do not forget went to manhattan into quaintly or but so they may twenty years something but you go through the neighborhood and it's incredible it's amazing mazing expedience i absolutely loved it and didn't think of it but i absolutely loved and it's and the reaction you committed beeping british is well you know the the sort of like and cheating you better names or the cheetah's enjoys not judge will be we still talk tennessee amazing expedient said well that's the thing i think all these races eighteenth car racing we're not there to win we just got another challenge mind afterwards you feel good when you say you don't smile maybe the first you look at that and then it's like coasting grimace it's hard it's really hard i mean you do have to dig really deep i think and forgiveness eight i wasn't making any vacation wasn't open to me it's just all finishing reason that money for the the chinese humid the low of at third base concert shot at beating the money the charge on you know so it's a challenge to yourselves and i think we've got to do that i mean i i enjoy doing that sort of thing you know challenging myself whether it's something a modest a notice the the the debate kinds of men will do do midnight or you know it's a comedy thing it's in kenya ended a hundred miles in the desert which was amazing but a killer and you find 'cause i think you and moten leaf doing challenger sells you know and and we don't ever see just what would needles you know it's not something where generations before us of course did behind but we wouldn't necessarily better but i think you're someone that seems to get the term fezzet the oh gee i only amazon me to jenny absolutely i mean minnows my forties on his he's really bond in my thirties and it took me a good five years ago my baby found to be honest i mean people were still looking at me sina wishy pregnant again or what do you know what you should be at five and listen i definitely definitely think i mean i go to just exercise classes in the church wholesale i love that you know just dance class you just throwing myself and having a great time holding space yellow now as it should go to mean something you enjoy the go to something that you enjoy and then you maintain it yes because you know you know what it's like so many people so he's basically new year but i'm gonna do this and i'm gonna i'm gonna run five miles a data just most most states and then find something you love to do and you know we everyone does it don't go in the sales by all the arc and that's the january and it's also the worst time of year to start i know it the summer is the best time of year to start giving you a kind of definitely running challenge if even if it to run the columbus her without stopping and that's great and the more there's something about oh you mean but after it's on the modest and in especially the last one which is ten years ago said at the last minute deserves fifty meals said we're gonna do a gain river sixty which i should note i mean that's that's the challenge that will be the challenge when you turn sixty days of the year but not saying yeah it's it's that thing or if you're so fence and yes it was the run that little you can do like see for males i mean see for miles this is huge for most people obviously from people you're say when people do law but you find it science weekly be easy and then you just build up build up build up and it's just great how do you feel after you've done something like well initially very emotional i find it really really emotional especially when you're doing it for the i try to this conclusion heart and you'd be like why you're do especially in thinking of people that maybe a loving the concert at a south we have died and i think that use this look here's an and then of course you seward everything store here sore but then there's not really much everything is am yeah but you just feel you feel if you there is not view things but cheesman it wouldn't really hitless many things these days not really i mean obviously when you have kids am or something massive happens but you getting not the view of i have challenge myself and i actually done i could eat thing it's an amazing thing to do well there is an element of childbirth linked to the fat and then at the end you're like i never did not but i there's so many people that do i know because i said after the first one i said well that's that don't you ever do this get inside port obviously would you hard but then a so it wouldn't haley hosted the next year on tv and i thought to go to the movies i hope and i also i do know they used it for me i think i had fifteen eighteen knows maybe my will create a hot topic on the show you got me to the last sort of fleet and they they they finish that david amazing codename show you and giving you eat meat cheese he's me catch waving at you and it just you get tight along in this wave of lost almost you know is remarkable and it doesn't really matter to you i mean almost running almost diamonds to sue slew but as long as you keep going as long as you keep gruden sukey dougal flexible but okay but i did the same thing when you say that when you're running pretty much just i was doing my my daughter is the first time she stimulus marlow running almost parade she said after iran ron meyer to be you were sort of just being resurrected but it was overtaken by people i remember when i did it and have a ninety cheetos amazing seek guy an edible oh my gosh and he beat me i mean i would like to think dilated beat me he was like we go there's no touch and when you do short distances you see something she's great and you could feel my life have you feel after day not because they still have the same kind of mental bannon obey much too much much better much better beforehand it's like oh gosh like why am i i must be crazy especially it's raining and it's been miserable but then afterwards you just honestly you just feel especially when you get an how much are you and just kind of sit there and think could be 'cause i saw that don't have she sees me years and years ago just after losing too tired to do anything i'm really tired you pushing the comics measles did he said you have to get fit and the kidney going as you start writing or good size concert something and i'm gonna be detained for my energy that ridiculous but of course he's absolutely right if you bet you do so much more energy idle much and it actually is amazing how quickly you can get it that it's also very scientific quickly and go but it's amazing the after being just a couple of weeks and and i'm wondering what you can achieve most most states and just build up but it's amazing what you can do a lot of people roll their eyes if you say you know i'm a little bit tired so i'm gonna go further and they're like oh i just don't cause such just dumped that's when they have no milk lifter cup of tea and then you so you've got nothing major but as amazing it does actually it it does make you feel better and it does what he needed a loss but i think it's been great the same this world cups been amazing new run and it's called young ghettos and chase you getting away from the talks and you beat on their phones and all of that and and love island in the darkness and that's the gate and they say and playing football incredible that's brilliant and that's what we have to do with a young people is getting energized and and and make sure that we do do something today and say oh gee nuances in portugal glad you said that i mean i think i feel i'm only one no additional filing a new that you do it while you're there which the team i mean for me i have no aspirations to appear in a villain televisions don't get it in a bikini no west my survivors and a counter makeup of snow from me and also i think the arrest you just very different because we see and getting fit and healthy by ashley doing physical exercise who of course and there's no shortcuts jenny everybody over oh well i can't help it life research and i can have you know search idiotic and now i have some civil christian yelich ton but really do you really want to 'cause i always think to myself i would never go into the nice because i've been under the knife and like you know this league operations you know how about accident on my leg and and it's amazing how many people who is he's not subject to you know 'cause it's been a new position like that are lifesaving ever why would you then inflicted upon yourself i just don't get it especially waiting just by going i do know that running you you don't have to put yourself through all the fake spain's and you know and then you've got to recover from end to end i mean that was a thing of the most exciting thing they don't they're letting them all these different color it's all the same sort of like facial features and i think she dies that's just and then you know everybody trying to be different but they're trying to fit in by looking exactly see i know it's crazy isn't it and and and obviously they've got their whole body shape they aspire to have is very different i mean look everyone aspires to look differently and not have been totally happy with me i would love to fire komi in my motions sometime so huge could sure movie on it but it's so ray and you're going to the stage where i'm a few flakes overheat smith i'm you know i'm all right great of course you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to sue copay fix it show me anybody this capacity even somebody that you things to promote do they're going to be like much less of it in front of it myself you know something that they do and they don't like these these it so difficult for young women because they get these images touch any type energies the idol full to show up and then they don't look like no other people in women and there's a fortune till it like oh yes and it's interesting with the whole running and because i remember when you started last year google just before i came to the would you start there isn't obsession when you did you're marathan about the weight loss you wilson i am because i mean not directly or debate i knew when you increase they might you run you are gonna go up a little bit anthem it did it did and patchy clouds low yeah what's that what's that you're done yet it's just weird that you know as women we can get defined by had much space were taken up in the it's really weird i mean for me it's always been you know being fits and feeling base in myself being healthy and you know obviously it's lovely to potential and the moment i mean i used to give us i i was a size sixteen in the big sixteen and it's just kind of like i can't go into and size eighteen this is totally my forties and then when i did my first most and now we move forward we or no foot in the past five years to off kicked off and that's because i do exercise on a walk and i do that fronting do more but i'm i'm doing things and it's a balancing you know what changed the balance between yeah you know i enjoy food and i love to know it'd be canes and have a glass wayne unoccupied survivor but i just don't do it with deep discounts and it's about getting out balance right and that's a win to pass when my daughter who hof thank goodness and other young women as well you know doing doing always be to be fearful to be looking at somebody on instagram and thinking they're having a great time that's just not sure if their life that they've probably through a teen filters so too late specifically like 'cause we cannot take a million voters and she's the best one instance you never gonna take the really bad but it's weird obsession with weight loss and you still get the i mean the women's magazines no don't have much effect 'cause nobody's beating the bishop ford both a lot more things on lane and said i mean it's like the thing of you know people getting absolutely castigated for putting on a few titans or celebrated for losing weight and then do how she going to follow so we knew that cycle i could not be numbers released shading really hard and you you you know you get paid to me and then they say oh going too far consent errands you know the whole fucking seat and they got they got still heavy with a really big fragment on for women's magazines health care and you just said i don't say nothing you know you got just ignored it is very difficult to lead it you'd really have to let it go but it's very difficult is you knew you could be next when the paper and then you know combing and do it in the komi because of the beautifully wouldn't be hard but what's the one that gives right here on the end you named and it's it's like being it's like being nice it's just hold on something you've just got let go but before not just you stop and people who've been in public hi everybody and it used to be when you would at school and college of evidence would go home for the font you've not seen it before and people can get your own pain just be really really case with it not just constantly don't do anything to hurt them honest with mega foods that cycle but i would make is that when they came in today so could we are one of the hardest working all right yeah i just i guess it's a little bit easier those there's no you know she's in singapore it but i mean we talk to each other over time and some you know when i'm when i'm walking her aides i'll be i'll be talking to that's when the joy of big foods you cannot do these shots which agreed end you can it's like everything else you confetti and you know i mean you you most coronation street or i mean i watch watch much daily i'm obsessed by net flicks and and if you do that i knew if you do not you can't fake even if it's just tough and they were the best thing of course it's i've got dog and he has a border tidier these goats taken many of these no alarm told you so cute but you know like cuddly docudrama dog is even it doesn't wanna sit down you must be moving moving overtime even admitted whom he's always on the go running around me i would oh yeah yeah yeah you've done and you also people say clinton if you haven't yet yet he's got really good nobody with a puppy with a nightmare 'cause he would just run away and you'd never fade mccain or go to a couple of times where we lost to go out and buy because check wilkie and yet another new oh yeah he he would you know she went on a run in speeding and it was it wasn't to halt thank goodness and they'd be woke up this river and the means movie do there and it was about ten miles on he did it did it and oh yeah yeah you could see drive in fact angus eight is british passport leaving passports relying on the table with his thank the lord he'd been evers but yeah he's a win so we thought she got spanish passport pop but give me the speed who he is actually spanish or shootouts fred i talked to my dog get my talk when he was a puppy he ate my really nice fancy new reese silver shoes why did they do that because they were just there why why why did the fevers who the next day gene knowing that better like eat it and then you and they realize that's new and insults i don't have a slippery too many anymore you know bay but his passport so he is punished but he's great because you have to go i so i would say to anybody who is maybe feel lonely or who wants to get fit get yourself a dog is long as you look after the majority of the time to spend with him and then it could speak i mean everybody shot somebody even you'd have your dog and a lot of people do look up to and it's because you know when it comes to fitness says well you've you've done dvd's you've done the whole fitness campaign dvd of no don't know some of these dvd's the hangs kicked they do it's absolutely agree just and it's not real so what we did was we just from the class be basically from the class and then maxine his mouth at fitness instructor she just recently in did looks sort of like you know all the way through insured you moose and things but it's basically from the cost of the whole over safety and that's real people wants to in two two weeks to get people in the seats in order to be paying you know you could if you wanna see new you know you just know but if you do that so when when tightened you know maybe six months to a year of make it part of your life because he puts dude it's gotta be particularly then you were going to be making it work i want to get more people trying that physical exercise especially late running you do have to start with a run you could start with a walk and then yeah then ended up you know if anyone's gonna start i and they're listening to this nine alive right okay yep donut i'm listening which is already me so this far they go that far and what would you tips be gay some really good seniors star and doing what he say to the men get who's seats me or will it come to class but i do want to quote and see i like that look it's early on with glowing anybody would it would blooming yeah it's a good pitch trainers in some some gives you have to spend a fortune and the most difficult thing essentially get in the door and listen to the music you said insane so ugly pow and moved to be have a good chance on the way right and you can see ice within shepherd i mean it's hard to keep up with them leona voice you late but silver he's and he chat entire race he's like chatting online that's good and i actually i mean joyce name opinion together you know we'd be princeton super trails but we actually are french strengthened by doing it because we don't lose evers just open about i think they should not be great big giant things and just be small things screen that slash yellow people's so will be listening to run put you and you know as you are not lorraine some motivational words right knife anyone listening while they're going keep going keep going and think about the changes you're making two you're bodey thing about defined the in a decade talion you're gonna look exactly the same you're still gonna look fabulous you see that so as we get older i think by doing exercise licensing the aging i mean my head coach i do not spend four hundred pence instead of treating you don't have to get stupid fillers and no incidents no just take it and goofy w mayo when you do need to make me feel happy right now so yesterday i ran home and i've been having this discussion on social media as well how many people smile when they run and there's a feeling that in london new and smell i and i smiled in uncomfortably everyone gay and i say seventy five percent smell back and it might be because the sun will shine excuse me because otherwise they which i think i think you're right though i think it may be a london thing the purple eagles straight anyone you know the straight that's the thinking about running straight news reporting yeah i totally agree you might have a little quickfire sure you an you're favorite trainers because everyone's festival where you where you know i i still get my phone twins me just go do like nike do i do treat other people like me i do like and when you stop go really good protection you know figure uncouth as well i think that's really important yeah storm winds but they're not to create late lately i think that's important to you don't wanna be you know if you've got like horrible big huge like but you know the diving but see people were you there when they have you seen the ones are just like so they give you like a kind of monkey fit i'm not shooting in new orleans rafting here's what things look like but i do i do they become no safety and then you see trump trump directed i think if you're single you're not gonna prove wearing those either now or for me it's after work at for me would be up at ten in the morning maybe maybe depending on how you 'cause normally be half are deeply factor work and they may decide genetics decided say between eleven and twelve is good for me and then in if i can oversee uncomfortable wichita and maybe they so it's like six seven okay so you get like a double header day than an favorite place to exercise and go for a run we're very lucky because who lives near the very end on this been testing books where we are 'cause we were just a new model so yeah me oh it's gorgeous eighteen rate positive which is absolutely fantastic and then at home there's a brilliant brilliant at running dundee but you can go from fifty older be across the bridge to report and then old be back again not a great one for training there is something about running by the walter is lovely to the so yeah i i would i would love to run by the cool stuff a bar from the no guys to definitely at how would you define runner's high well she won't it's lake and for me it's like drinking half about the champagne were just getting to that stage sometimes we'd be having a couple of drinks and you just you greet reid and rewind threats and then override but it stops me it's like that so and feeling really if the police optimism it makes you feel because there's no just tossing it just food yeah i like that hey i actually very true as well at your favorite workout oh gosh well i didn't do really tell me crunches i think they really difficult to do so when i do it says classic maxine she tends to stomach exercise is almost you don't really know who you're doing the highlight those towns suck it up you suck on something you told me i actually just all her news you know how the mood that junior stomach so i wouldn't get face pitching trenches and what people do but i actually think it hurts monday and i'm not i'm she'd given myself would still make some junior right so by doing those exercises that book surely bail i find is all the more running i do and if you will and you're diet which i am a client that if you do that she that does not cause accidently sometimes if you've eaten a little bit too much of it maybe it's just me as i run i could feel my stomach jekyll you know i i've kind of course when i'm doing the new report in my board you juggle in a week and i'm like talking like tell me in my high those days i say well maybe i wouldn't stuff the face the braves tonight but it just it's about being mindful as well is a note mindlessly you think so many of us just eating don't be we sort of like sitting there watching cody and how they're back and trace we need to do and i mean you want to but it's just like everything is jumbo so he's when i know what i'd do i quite late the jumble aimed to a box that we have sometimes i'm like oh it's not the same way but yeah everything's masa i know and but yeah it's just a case of credit addressed it never thing i'm making new habits die hard hitting of old late you're best piece of running advice for someone who's taking up on their their because it's quite daunting when you start and it becomes overwhelming you think everyone's looking you you doing buddy there no it's not you it's up to what you're saying no to meet with tbb fit do it and say you know we'd do twenty six might be down and you may know you do it may make babysit and food d by day by day and then obviously i think you will not participate but do you feel just don't and if you don't just by main street and if you're limit that they wouldn't feel that you have to really we should be living i feel like after all that you have to sign up with a name on demar you think so let's also the forties under a baby up mixed atrium beer i think in the app and get my husband's do with me hulk leader in 'cause he's great he he just he just he just wouldn't be really do we people have there's too many annoying just rolled up well yeah

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GSMC Social Media News Podcast Episode 174: Katy Perry, Dog vs Baby, and Bombs?

GSMC Social Media News Podcast

35:54 min | 1 year ago

GSMC Social Media News Podcast Episode 174: Katy Perry, Dog vs Baby, and Bombs?

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Social Media News His podcast brought to you by the G._M._C. podcast network. I am your host. Sarah and I am happy to be with you today to talk about some things that are trending in social media. The first thing the fur story is one that I see trending on twitter and I imagine many other places and it is that Katy Perry's Song Darkhorse was copied. <hes> was was copied from A. I'm a rap song. A jury has found out so <hes> that was a very awkward intro. I do apologize so a jury has found that pop singer Katy Perry <hes> copied a two thousand nine Christian Christian rap Song for her two thousand thirteen hit dark horse the Associated Press reports. The decision was unanimous by a nine member federal jury in Los Angeles gentles courtroom on Monday. The jury concluded that the beat of the Christian song was original enough to be copyrighted. The verdict came five years after through the Christian Rapper Marcus Grey also known as flame and two CO writers followed filed a lawsuit against the pop star Gray alleged Perry stole the beat beat instrumental line from his song joyful noise to create dark horse. The main focus of the copyright infringement case was about the beat not the lyrics the grades attorneys claimed it was possible for the defendants to have heard the song and presented evidence that it had millions of plays on Youtube and spotify gray's album which included the song of joyful noise was nominated for a grammy there <hes> trying to shove Mr Gray into some gospel music away that no one ever visits said the plaintiffs attorney attorney Michael a con during closing arguments Perry's legal team argued that the song contains simple musical elements that should be available for anyone to use. They're trying to own basic building blocks of music the alphabet of music that should be available to everyone attorney Christine Lip Laperrouze said during closing arguments on Thursday in their final verdict there jurors found all six songwriters in all four corporations that released and distributed the songs were liable. The songwriters writers include Perry Sarah Hudson who only worked on the lyrics along with juicy j who only penned his guest verse other defendants found liable were capitol records as well as Perry's producers Dr Luke Max Martin and circuit who came up with songs beat the case will now go on to a penalty phase where the jury will determine how much is owed for copyright infringement from Perry and the other defendants so that is <hes> <hes>. I'm always fascinated by those those cases because how do you determine if someone copied. Another song went hit you know D D._T.. Do it consciously do you do it subconsciously. Have you heard something and it sticks in your head or is you know I mean is it blatant copyright violation nuts. It's fascinating to me how all all that works but <hes> they must have presented the evidence in such a way that the jury just determined that yes it was <hes> it was copied from the two thousand thousand nine songs so interesting again to see then where this goes in the next phase of this process. Let's move onto you a happier story still music ish and social media related and it is <hes> about Riana Ana well sort of about Rana it is about Rana's supposed- d'appel ganger. Have you seen this on social media. It is said that we all we'll have adopted ganger that we all have twin somewhere in the world and with the number of people in the world and the <hes> number of facial features available. Oh I'm sure that that that is true. Riana seems to have found her d'appel ganger on a social media and she actually posted a picture which could probably be considered like a throwback picture of Riana so she posted the photo and <hes> wrote almost dropped my phone. How and considering unsidering people are saying that the the two are identical? You would have to look and see if you think that they are identical but <hes> she apparently wasn't the only one doing doing a double. Take celebrities and fans alike took to the comments to express their utter shock. Many automatically assumed that this was the work of of Dunton don face up the same APP responsible for making everybody everyone appear to be old so yeah the little girl that is in the picture could could could definitely be a younger Riana. She's a beautiful young girl posted by Riana on Instagram and then of course people reacted as it said celebrities and fans alike people <hes> unlike zoo Deuba la La Anthony Chanina shake surinder medley and Miranda Kerr among others shared their thoughts on this you know saying wow and you know she's the little girls adorable which she he is but the resemblance is pretty questionable but then how the question the resemblance is not questionable look the resemblance. Is there the question is you know how did Ramona discover her little d'appel gang or in the millions of pictures on instagram that that are in the world that part apparently remains a mystery but she did tag the little girl's mom in the photo which means that <hes> well. She knows where the picture came from <hes>. We don't know where it is that any rate <hes> the little girl is very cute. I wonder who she is but at the same time I don't want to know who she is because she doesn't need that kind of attention in her life. Although I guess Riana did tag her mom so my question would be a have you seen the picture and do you think it looks like a young Riana. She could play a young ran in a movie. Definitely I think and B. I wonder how so it feels as either the mother or the daughter in the picture to suddenly have a picture go viral because a celebrity finds it and things that you look like like them as small as a younger version of them which she does. I can't even imagine obviously I am not a small child but I if I let's say if one of my nieces suddenly it was viral on instagram because she looked like a celebrity that would do the Internet is a Weird Place Ladies and gentlemen. That's all I can say. The Internet is a weird place but let's go ahead and move on from well. We're not gonNA move on from the weirdness of the Internet because this is the social social media news podcast and we talk about the Internet throughout. So what else do we have to talk about today. Oh my goodness okay so now this next story is one that my husband forwarded me a link on facebook the other day and it starts out as kind of a normal <hes> that news video reporter is reporting that a home depot had to be closed down due to A. And reported that there was a man is making threats in the bathroom that there was a bomb <hes> and so she's she's reporting this story and she's reading through it and she says that when the police arrived when the team arrived to go through this home depot mixture of things okay hey try to find the bomb they found the the witness and the man who himself had made these supposed threat and what he actually said he'd the threat was was be he had warned people to leave the bathroom <hes> and so that was where the the concern had come from but he'd warned people to leave the bathroom because he was he's. He was going to quote drop. A bomb up here and the reporter is reading this and she says she says it went point. Yes yes I just got that now her face watching her face as she she goes from you know this very professional <hes> reporter her reading a news story and then she she reads it with a straight face and then she looks over at her. I think it's her co anchor and says you ask. The producer used to make me read that didn't you. She's just the look on her. Face is hilarious so <hes>. I the reporters reaction is great. I assume do that. <hes> you know. This was a real story that obviously she was reporting on it so it must have been a real story but I don't know what it's funnier. The fact that let somebody some guys that he was going to drop a bomb in the bathroom. Meaning obviously not a real bomb but <hes> bathroom Kinda bomb and it got <hes> reported and police came et. Cetera I mean I guess better safe than sorry right but the fact that the reporter maybe it was breaking breaking news must have been breaking news it wasn't it wasn't evident in the video if it was breaking news but it must have been because she clearly hadn't read the story before this she was she was clearly reading through reading the teleprompter after and when she got to that part just the look on her face was absolutely fabulous <hes> on that note m we are going to take our first break of the podcast. Maybe you have time to run to the bathroom but I don't want to know what happens in there okay. I don't need to know so stay tuned. You're listening to the G._M._C. Social Media News in his podcast and I'll be right back right now. 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Today is the day for doing with up to thirty five percent off tile and lower prices on all flooring the Home Depot Abo- more saving more doing U._S.. Only valid through August fourth always on a girl but the day just won't be one without your Hollywood Vince foot golden state media concepts that are ten podcast take care of that and all inclusive luck pop culture. Welcome back to the eight years in the Social Media News podcast. This next story is just one of those examples of the way. People are crazy crazy. I mean people are crazy but the way people are just so very fascinating. That's maybe more tactful way of saying it and how in This Day and age this era of the Internet where you can take screen shots of interactions that you have with people all of the fascinating leaving us all the all the fascinating characteristics of people go on the Internet and people that are able to comment and and see just how strange the world really is so enough of my sort of vague vagueness there <hes> I recently saw this story when a friend of mine posted it on facebook and then it started popping up in other other places at board panda actually even did a story on it so a woman actually demanded that <hes> an acquaintance acquaintances. Mrs Dog's name be changed because she wants wanted to name her baby. The same name and the the exchange change is just wow. It's pretty it's pretty crazy. I mean you know when you think about baby names. There are so many things to think about you know is this is going to be changed into some horrible nickname or does it rhyme weirdly with the last name or when you say them. How is it going to sound yeah I mean. Are you naming the baby after someone special or are you trying to make a name that is unique or special or has certain meaning but this interaction is chest pretty amazing so <hes> the the woman whose dog is in question story. Her name is Janie and and <hes> she was pretty astounded by this whole text exchange and ended up posting the screen shots on social media so her the story is that <hes> she says out of the blue she messages be an telling me. She's pregnant again. I think she's it's strange that she's telling me since we don't really we know each other but I say congratulations super happy for you etc.. She says she's having a little girl. I'm like that's awesome. She'll be super loved and protected. My nieces are heaps of fun. You love having a daughter as well then. She says we want to name her tilly but it's come to my attention. You have a dog named Tilly. I'd really appreciate you changing changing your dog's name. Obviously you understand my daughter can't have the same name as a dog. I'm like w T.F.. I just say oh I I see. I don't think it's necessary. Since I doubt you'll ever see my tilly and I don't think anyone will notice she loses it says because I don't have kids. I don't understand understand. I'm I'm putting her in a terrible position and potentially ruining her unborn daughter's life. There's two question marks and three exclamation points pulse following that I wrote back and said I'm not changing. The dog's name have a good one mate and congrats again. Wow <hes> people then of course had all kinds of reactions to this as to we you know well what's wrong with sharing a name with a dog and Portelli Tilly one one reply was exactly that tilly would like to know what's wrong with sharing a name with a dog I what do you what do you think of this folks. <hes> naming a child is tricky and you know maybe you don't want to name the the the child the same thing as like. Maybe your sister's child has a name that you really like. Dang it while you're not. GonNa ask your sister to change the name of that child and a dog of some acquaintances. They're not even really friends. I think what I read was that they had met at at like mutual friends at like a baptism or something and and <hes> the but then to say it's come to my attention that your dog's name is <hes> what I want to name my baby and clearly that can't happen yeah well. That's just crazy. I mean she going to track down. Everybody who's dog's name is Tilley and ask them. I have a former name. WHO's Dog's name. Is I have a former neighbor. Excuse me WHO's dog. Dog's name is Tilley. She Wow I'm just fascinated by this. Lots of people of course have <hes> I have had this conversation I actually kind of was giving a friend of mine just like silly crap once not once years ago when they got a new dog and named their dog the same thing that our dogs middle name is yes. Our dog has a middle name and. And I didn't really care I was but I I did send her a silly textiles like hey. My dog is offended and she was like oh my gosh. I didn't even think about it. Ha Well so we have a dog. We have dogs dogs with the same name sort of <hes>. I don't know just wow at any rate. According to one website the top five most most popular female puppy names in twenty nineteen are Bella Molly or molly molly with a Y.. or an I e cocoa <hes> Luna and Lucy this year male pups are mostly called Bailey Charlie Max Buddy and cooper all of those could be could be human names James Frankly so well <hes> I just can't imagine asking someone to change their dog's name <hes> but the reactions are pretty pretty interesting ranging from the the reasonable to the well people calm calm down then then then some users actually shared positive stories but what it means share name with a dog. I just can't stop thinking about that scene. In Indiana Jones where you know his dad keeps calling him junior and and then he says we named the Dog Indiana Donna the one guy says he named after the dog well yeah so he says he's very I was very fond of that dog but <hes> as someone who was named after a dog named Tilly and and since become besties with another dog named tilly it's great sharing a name with a Mutt one other person said my dog has my daughter has the same name as my sister's dog. She's dead now. The dog not my daughter. Thank you for clarifying well. Actually she died thirty years before my daughter was born. I think we were safe by then <hes> another comment we were going to call Rachel Renee but then my Mr then Mr Docs then B._f._f.'s girlfriend got got a dog called Rene. They did not know we were going to call. The baby. Renee never occurred to me to ask them to change the dog's name. <hes> my second husband had a dog named Flynn. which is my son's his name? I had a dog named Cooper. which is my grandson's name? We laughed about it. No dog or human names were changed. This woman is an idiot. See that's the yeah that's a little harsh. Put my cousin just recently had a baby boy and she named him after her childhood best friend the family dog see I well I mean there's a lot of interesting things that happen in the world and because of the Internet when now we get to read all about wrote them things that might have been sort of minor have become not so minor anymore at any rate. Let's move on from that silly crazy weird fascinating story of strangers and take our second break of the podcast when we come back to stories that <hes> restore my faith in humanity as opposed to the story that we just talked about so stay tuned. You're listening to the G._M._C. Social Media News podcast and I'll be right back. It's daylight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. 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Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network network that covers just about everything that you've been searching the golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than a podcast cast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop flirted around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever whatever it may be visit W._W._w.. Dot G._S. MC PODCAST DOT com follow us on facebook and twitter and download us on itunes soundcloud and Google play <music> in the we see social media news podcast as I said before the break we are going to turn our attention to stories that have gone viral for a nicer reasons. The first is that <hes> sisters have honored their dad with <hes> a rather funny obituary including including the line. He loved not wearing pants at home. I have an interesting thought process. When it comes to obituaries I have worked in <hes> and several jobs that involves working with families who were in the process of planning funerals and sometimes reading obituaries? He's just made me sad you know it was like the this person was ninety years old and the only thing that the family could think about could think to write. was you know she loved gardening or something so when I come come across unique obituaries the especially ones that clearly show the love of the love the family has even if it's kind of an irreverent or Sele- Love Love I. I like those kinds of things so when Thomas Tom W._j.. Mulligan of Nashua New Hampshire died suddenly only on July sixteenth. His two daughters reacted in the best way they knew how by cracking jokes Kim Morgan thirty eight of Los Angeles and Amy Mulligan Shapiro. Oh thirty three of drinker drako Massachusetts said that their father was always jokester so it was only fitting that he'd be honored with a funny obituary. <hes> <hes> Kim is quoted as saying dad didn't play a lot of practical jokes. He was just funny in general he was totally irreverent sarcastic and dry. He loved jokes that were were too soon. I think this obituary would fit into that category. The orbit which ran in the Nashua Telegraph began with the Line Thomas Tom <unk> W._j.. Mulligan of Nashua has passed away at home in his recliner as he had threatened to for years in this unique tribute Mulligan was described I by his daughters as a kid from Brooklyn who grew up to live the American dream of marriage a career a house in the suburbs and to pains in the skits. He attended attended Bishop Ford High School other human parts humorous parts included a reference to Mulligan's favourite T._v. show and his habit of making himself comfortable at home he he loved his love of doctor who was only surpassed by his love not wearing pants at WHO The funeral we had a party where people told hilarious stories about him and we had a whisky toast in his honor? She said humor definitely helped us to get through this so clearly they loved their dad and clearly they loved his sort of wacky sense of humor and they definitely wrote an obituary that showed his personality which I appreciate and then finally <hes> our last story is about a way that social media is actually helpful. <hes> it can be helpful in a lot of ways but recently one woman has been overwhelmed by the benevolence wants and kindness of strangers after hundreds responded to a request to find one specific dress. I actually saw this on. I believe facebook a while while back and thought it was a very sweet story. <hes> Deborah Pryce posted the request on twitter and explained that her friend quote has a daughter with autism who can only wear this particular dress. She also asked people not to be judgy because sometimes people can't cope with certain stuff and it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things <hes> so the little girl as as stated is autistic. She currently has a favorite dress which she does insist on wearing practically all the time and that can be that can be complicated when you are trying to make sure that dress stays relatively clean <hes> but <hes> people on a spectrum of course have certain certain comforts that they need around them to make things feel more in control and for this little girl apparently right now that is the stress address. The girl's name is Elsie and she's super attached to the dress debra who was a friend of elsies. Mom took her <hes> inquest for the stress to twitter in the hopes of possibly buying it off someone they were hoping to find other sizes so that Elsie could continue to wear the dress as she grew grew. She mom wasn't really expecting the reaction that she got from this request so she her original post as I said friend's daughter only wears dress there's a picture of the dress and it is a gray dress with a rainbow <hes> heart kind of cracked down the middle a little bit <hes> the <hes> actually an the the brand that used to carry the dress actually responded responded to the the tweet <hes> the <hes> next M at next official. Hey Deborah we have dropped this item from our arrange but we'd still like to help get this item for your friend's daughter. We can't guarantee it but we will try our very best to contact the supplier and see if we can produce a few more batches of this dress if you can could you ask your friend who is searching for the stress to contact us we can arrange for the relevant team to start to sort something out for them. which is amazing? I mean that's wonderful. <hes> after just one day deborah shared the entire story which is really very sweet. She posted posted. Stop the clock all in caps yesterday a put a tweet out asking people if they had this next dress from three years ago because my friend <hes> out mouse else makes I think that's what it says at Mauser. Most there's no he has a daughter with autism who can only wear that dress. I asked people not to judge because in the scheme of things it doesn't matter does it. She said she'll eventually grow out of her fascination with this dress or not who cares doesn't matter it would just give her and her mum a bit of breathing space and make the dress stress less. Well you know how twitter's generally a bit of a bear pit these days well. It wasn't yesterday something lovely happened. People started to re tweet it to look for the dress. Some people found a link on Ebay for a top in the same fabric some offered for to make another dress but it wouldn't have worked because she needs this particular distressed Jersey textile designer face <hes> even at next official with their great big corporate office and profit margins to watch said they'd speak to the suppliers this week and see if there any fabric left to run up to run up another another small batch of dresses for Kate's daughter in the end. One Lady said her daughter had an age sixteen one and she's sending it to us. It'll be too big but it doesn't matter adder. It'll be okay if she needs the stress for a few more years. Another lady has an age ten one and she is sending it to us. It's a little small but <hes> my friend's daughter can wear it at home. meaning that her other one can be worn when she's out and about and then the most amazing tweet stop the call stop the clock. A girl called me La found her age twelve dress which will be perfect and she said to her mom that she would send it to us. I told them bummed. Tell me la how kind she is. She's given my friends and breathing space and made her daughters day to not only that but she's said I can share this story and there is a picture of the young lady holding up her <hes> her not her version her her dress that she is going to send to this family. She says that the little that Mila did say she can share this story because I think it totally restores your faith in human nature absolutely bowled over by the kindness of strangers massive thanks each and every one of you from me and <hes> she tagged again elsies mom and huge thanks thanks to the CO two girls who have chosen to send their dresses. You're amazing and your mom's are pretty amazing to for raising such lovely daughters but mostly you're great because you've made a little girl really happy to continue to be in her favourite dress and there are a couple of pictures of Elsie with her younger sibling and she is wearing her favorite dress. <hes> there are of course then the expected comments. Most people were very overwhelmed by at this honestly does restore my faith in humanity a little bit <hes> lots of people say that they cried happy tears <hes> one one woman posted that she is a teacher and had a student who would only wear the same leggings every day and it was really hard you know her. Mom washed them for her every night. So you know these things do matter it is important. It's not just a small child being stubborn or being spoiled old. Sometimes sometimes we need these things in life that are comforting and appropriate in it's it's important to understand when when we have we encounter differences so thanks twitter for restoring my faith in humanity and I hope that Elsie enjoys having multiple <music> versions of her dress so that she can wear them for some time to come it is time to wrap up this episode of the G._M._C. Social Media News podcast. Thank you so much for for joining me join me again next time so we can find out what's been trending in the world. 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A Conversation with DJ Lil John 021720

The Byrd's Nest

1:41:55 hr | 1 year ago

A Conversation with DJ Lil John 021720

"And took food joe. He'll be up there. I just ask another podcast when they miss. Dj heard after our love. Listening supportive factor. Whatever about what you're going to promote your music and plug it doesn't matter the health trafford tartan platform generally tell you print get back and you up when they a member of all those different related awful trying to us up the questions that she wasn't a really got my manby a little john john. Six point three berry on a legend in the house community. Today man we're gonna talk all things. I'm so honored to have this man here. Let's get it started john. How you feel great men. Honest mind who'd come visit you making ways with this burden. It's a lot of fun man. There's just a lot of fun to get the perspective of people on the different sides that you see now industries and you have five minutes can dig a little deeper here so tell us a little bit like. How'd you get your name So once upon a time not long ago My first dj gig first of all my dad's name pieces john junior third and i'm only five five on a good day so low. John wasn't hard to come by all. But as i began my young career wherever i tried to play it there was always somebody else named john normally bouncer. Maybe just another big guy. Like i said i'm only back then. I was five. Oh wow five. Zero in instance. You know so one hundred hours probably ninety five thousand. Ha so yeah. It was easy to be john and that was so long ago and My play big brother. Terry winslow recipe's his name was john. He was announced as the just straight up. Big john luzon that escaped marine to while so As far as housemaids you. When did you get you started with jam. I got my start that to say the now. I'm not afraid to say the year or laurie wasn't afraid. She's upped seventy eight. This is forty years. She's been dj. That makes two of us. I've gotten i've got my first check as a dj. When i was sixteen. And i'll never forget. My dad used to tell me because i've been playing with reconciles seven eight nine ten. Somebody that for review. I only started at ten. But i have classmates to date swore brought records to school in fifth grade fourth grade. I'm like we didn't have a turntables and mixing as one record player with the speaker. But they said. I brought record soon anyway so back then your first check like like guess you could take checks back then because people didn't really bounce checks do not. Oh so how much was that check. I don't remember. I can tell you this. Though back then. Seventy seven seven eight. You had to be sixteen. That was the legal age to work. That's why that was my first check law do you. Do you remember that good. Oh yeah what was that far from your house. What from your bird's nest. It was called the loop roller disco. Ow nine fifth and egleston which is now the site of holy trinity. How many crazy records did you take. What you that. Night Probably one greater records. And what how long that lasts set. My set might have been an hour. You know what back then i spent. I was split time with another guy. Names percy jackson. Shout out the person okay. He actually gave me. The saudi solves short guy. We're records and look. Like i knew what i was doing. Come let me put you on that sweet so Compared to the to put on like like like now compared to the did you ever think that you will get to the statue that you are now. no no. Did you ever think about like giving up just saying. I'm i'm done with this. I'm trying to do hell. No hell no no. No i told you. I was playing around since i was ten. I got to discovering all's fourteen. They were a pammy under the table. Okay i got my check. When i was sixteen which means and i got my check. I was already two year employees for us in. Yeah hey look back and you're not looking back now you like every time i look up. You're doing some going atlanta. I know you talked about Going to mukasa we have peace down here. He spoke about that. I hear a lot of good things about mikasa. And then i know we talked about Amsterdam when over to answer that. Describe like that like what's going to get you over the edge to say. Hey i'm going to answer that. So amsterdam started with a record company out there On the outskirts of germany picked up some stuff. I did in the nineties and released it. And we want you to come out and you come into the call. Amsterdam dance event eighty and i said i thought about it but yeah this that this that is the will of you fly over which room. Oh i'm there. I'm there was a couple years ago. And i was last year. Actually because george saying you gotta go you gotta go. You might see because he always tells me about all of this walking around doing man. I may lugos. you'll be fine. Certainly last year walked around with a leg. Brace on so you'll be low so you also went to Did you play any costs. And how many visits you played just the one just the one which was cool like. How was the vibe. Like how was it. I got to play one of the opening. Night sets on a wednesday thursday and it was off. Disco is something that mandel and his partner do from philly. Okay and i can't remember the name event right. Now come to me in a minute. But they do like all disco seventies hundred in two years prior to that october seventeen. I got to play as a guest myself mark fuller. Oh yeah because the guys could make that event. That was the same time. Or should i say a week after my dad's passing oh man but the incredible part was a week after that event was when my man past rest in peace to voodoo ray so that was a surreal moment and then just last year. The guy's they'll invited me back because they heard about how i played in this. We want him on the squad at least for this one. Wow that's nice. So do you have anything in production on. You're going to release it anytime so Hopefully yeah i got you know why. I'm that guy that has like forty tracks but never went from. Adc it's funny. Yeah so you start not gonna finish. Yeah who knows all about that life to my man who. He's he's to get on my case obama in fact thanks to him. I did continue to put more music in this crazy. 'cause everybody said like if i say you produce they like yeah. I got some tracks. But i'm just i haven't released them yet or not done so i guess it's probably all about being a perfectionist and making our own worst critic man we just. I don't know p- would ever be something i did. Guys keep saying you gotta do it so with all the business that you got going on your one six point three and how was that man so far so good. I've moved into the overnight shift and see radio. Especially i wanna six three. It's really a room with a bunch of radio equipment from four walls and a window is nobody else in actually engineer. Mahmood show so you never know who people listening right especially from midnight to five in the morning right so i'm thinking listen to me crack jokes. Some people actually know and try and give out. Some tickets started giving out tickets. People actually listened sat out to people on third shift does a lot of a lot of our knife. I will listen to the radio to kinda help me out to their shift though so i was told today from. Listen that you stand out overnights because most of the time radios quiet overnight you allowed but you know just because i give it a personality swing you know. And that's the thing that like you know. I love about one zero six point three especially you know a few months ago. Everybody was from chicago. I'm not a big fan of the syndicated radio but everybody was from chicago. You got like the meat and potatoes of chicago. You got everything with like mike. Love yourself. what's the young lady that was on at two o'clock Jay wright got the guy that's on the now Cool out yeah. Cool out to write about messing up names and then denise nolan so i love the fact that we had that so now. It's like it's kind of like going away because the small show was okay. But i love what you guys do. So how important is that to. You is majorly important to me. Because when you had a mike love and company they could relate and speak to something instantly. That was actually happening. Ricky can't do that. He's not here right. You know if there's a turnover on the bishop ford. Don't traffic to tell you that or mike might tell you that you know. And i'm not trying to rehash all of that. But what i'm saying is that local element can be spoken. I mean michael can easily about what happened at the united center on sunday. Yadda yada gotta and expanded that whole all star. Exact chicago was lit this weekend and was it was off. The chain was memorable this weekend. That's the part. I like except that that concert at the st joe's and you saw of footage of that and there was a nice man. I wish together. Yeah it ain't worth it. That was too many of them in one spire gas going out to fight paying money to get into no closer to fight nobody that same way drink so now that you you do that then you also do the House music show on friday right. How long have you been doing. April two thousand twelve eight years coming up eight years every friday. A little of said i'm gonna say point three no right now i i hear nobody ever called me to fifteen minute mixes. I'm a little upset about that. Everybody else is on. My mama was even on their shot. Just kid man. I'm not mad. I i enjoy all the guys. That's the mixes. I enjoyed the show. I listen to usually when i leave from the Coming home to check you guys out man. And i don't think there's any other radio station in the country that do that and i wish they would expand that because is such a great culture within the chicago community and i really was like ice cream truck. I'll send you calm you so talk a little bit about that. I would love to. Because i wanted to set. The registry. chicago is in the air. By else. So mike dunn and i the halston curator's of the show mike dunn actually founded to show once upon a time. There were four deejays Bulu master included charlotte to boom but he had a lot on his plate at the time so he kind of stepped away from the show. And that left three slots the me and sundance was one of the other ones. Those the three of us left and our open. Mike mike and will mike and Production should i say What's the word. I'm looking for programming. Oh my program and decided to use their fourth. Our guest mixes sprite. That's how they started. I was in charge of gathering the mixes right. I'm hidden cats up and you mix us do this do that. I had listed makes put the guys on. Maybe two people had to turn around and ask them semi netherlands. Okay same in right. One of them never made it because you know is one of those things. Sorry to hear that you gotta you know mixed kool-aid sugar and water and come out with one. Drink is like that. You feel me on that. So deputy was arguing. Yes hammer so that was a problem. Of course no names. But here's where everything went south in my opinion as far as the guest makes us and people need to hit so once upon a time when the mixes in kicked off. He kicked off right as a win. Going as you got going kind of tapered off right next to you know. I had to get mickey. Calvin gimme a second meeks or i had sauce will give me a second. Makes one the tools. A third mixon program was like Please tell me you're not playing favoritisms. Absolutely not cannot mixes like. They should write that where when things went wrong program decided. Well if they're not gonna turn into makes us. We don't have to be part of show right by this time. Sundance left which left another hour. Moving lord programming politely asked mike. And i had a better idea. How about you take. The first two hours might take the second two hours right. Initially mike and i was like oh boy and i thought about where we both thought about it. No that's gonna be no not a lot of work. We think about what the streets were gonna say. Not that there was gonna affect decision. Oh man they don't want they hate. Yeah but that did not change our course. That was a programming decision. And it's crazy because one one of the things that i heard it and it made me sick my head and i laugh with like gaza saying off they upset because our mixes are better than they look like and they talk about the and i'm like what he on the radio every single day you on the radio every friday. They wasn't that good then. They wouldn't be on the radio so i got mad. Love your man. Because i see you guys thinking him we chitchat. It's really cool to hear one of your friends on the radio every week or every night knowing something positive man i wish the guys will definitely step up a little bit more and take the negativity out of this house thing and be a little bit more positive man. I i'm gonna try the each one. Teach one approach and grab a naysayer here and there. I've already done it. I ain't gonna lie. And just pull somebody i people actually know right a talk to you man. Are you good. I mean are you good yeah. Let's talk yeah. I've grab a couple of over the summer. That's sweet. I that if you see me fall off is man makes you. I'm gonna do for you. What i did for them. I changed the subject completely. We talked about money matters. I talked about. Do you have a 401k plan. Do you have any stocks. Let's talk about that. Yeah it's usually the guys that idol that Don't get into that but So i know you talked about getting back into production now. Let's talk about what you're doing now. I know you guys over at the family. The in every monday night. So how's that going. It's consistent it's consistent. It's cold outside so you're going to get that taper but we stab people to heart. It's it's definitely one of the most consistent even go on in the chicago land area. So who else is up there with. Micky kelvin's resident promoted mickey scheduled. But mickey out there. That's the one you want to see if you wanna guess mix as. I'm just hired help because mickie donovan. They develop detainment. They've put on the night. You got eric up there to fix it off. He helps with the sound to better help me sweet because last time i was on the duct tape on its mix. I'm just kidding to get not the corona viruses. Look up to get him now. He's a great. Yeah he's a he's a he's a soldier giant. I had him over here one day. We had a little bit in the backyard. And i was a little skeptical because you know like like like my wife and hover is very critical. A dj's roll like she'll sit there and be like what the hell is he doing. Like who the fuck is that. Like she'll say in hardcover you know it ain't it is. I'm telling you how free studio but they are very critical of wendy's as out here out here bad so i was a little nervous when he was nice little crowd but he came over and he did his theme and he did this thing. I was proud to do man but the the guys just a great guy giant. And he's like you know just a good friend. He's making them. Yeah he is he also sent me a tone that he he did and it was pretty nice. I hope he continues to do stuff like that and to be a little bit more creative embarrassing. Focus like that in. Yeah so if you had the call somebody of you at the top somebody about the right way of doing this now. What would be like three talking points. That should hit him with Self promotion the right way you know There's a right way and the wrong way. If is all about you all about you. People are trying to check for you like that. I personally went through that. When i found myself promoting my vince. I said you know this needs to be more about the event not necessarily about come. Check me out. Come check me come sick meal so now is like come out. Joyous come out and celebrate with the aquarium is more of that or focus on the guys that are playing with me. Okay you know that's key number one I developed something that works for me. That creates what i call domino effect. As far as business. I take the mix cds at still record. And i will give him out. Yeah to someone. I'd never met before. Who is complementary say came right to deejay booth. How're you doing wishing it all always wanted me to think about. You have cd's how much i'm gonna give you. I just want you to have that. There's something about that connection. Yeah people connection everything else falls in line. Yeah i've learned from myself. And i've seen it for myself. Unfortunately there are many these as they don't want to have conversations with people not necessarily in the middle of your blinn. I'm talking about it all right or unfortunately these as you know. They already know what they're made of. I i had to put out there. He goes on twenty. And i don't understand why they just don't get it though i is. This is this a factor to me and to me. It's pretty it's easy to be. I don't know if it's like from where i came from the personality. But you can't be a whole and think that people gonna love as a porch you just it ain't gonna happen i don't know what is grandparents teach us if they knew better they do better. So that's why i've decided you know. Do the each one teach one as wanna grab one by one and believe me. I've talked to view. Yeah i believe so. So what do you think about the. Dj's start now four five six years ago. Some of the stuff they doing. So you know my favorite analogy. Or should i say my favorite success story albeit is not the house. Genre sean mac for nar. The hip hop on nbc. He's on wbz When he came full circle there were prominent. Deejays hated on left and right. He didn't do this. He didn't pay his dues. he didn't do that. He came bland coolish again water. Yadda yadda talks too much. You know what saw mac was wise enough. I'm putting a record wise enough to know what the people wanted and gave it to into story because them four people over it out they never compared to the thousand exactly and that is that is dope by a lot of times guys fire back and they get upset now. You got something totally different going on out here. We did a boat party together. The first time i got to really know him and i wanted to. I wanted to go on first. Wife was with me. I wanted to sit back and see what is made a who knows what he's doing. He's new what he's doing there. And that's why he is where he is to death. Sweet but as that translates transcends two days just start now find your lane. No you'll get to know your lane and find out who's watching okay. I'm telling you is a connection piece because you said earlier. I don't think we were on yet. But you said you'd you'd never know you never know we'd never know in crazy. Because i think. I met gershon jackson that way no longer hours. Somebody called me a couple of days. It was like a eager. Sean want meet. You not like who needed sony. Did this only all keiko so that you giving you a number say so. He called me like i was just shocked because he said his dog. I just sat back into cut. I'm listening. I'm looking at you because i heard it before but this is dope when you got guys like that and other people say you doing the right thing so i just wanna preach that two guys out here. Man just tried to do the right thing. I'm telling you this it's a pot of gold on other rainbow if you do. I mean it's a crowded field but look at what you do. Yeah bird's nests. How many of us are doing this. I don't know that's my point. You don't need to know right. I'll let them let them follow your lead but you lead your lane and you're going that way. I was exhausted. That's what i'm talking about. Was excited because i think any ray gave me. The show won't gotta have house radio. And i just like i was sitting around with man. Come onto the bird's nest somebody like what donna's dope burs house so we started rolling with that juror lot with river rock. Okay came to me and said he would think about doing a podcast. And i was like. Yeah we talked about it. But like i just didn't know and then And then we started doing that we were doing in the studio and then hulu was like as recorded video recorded and i might i cool so now. We got another aspect. So we're looking at trying to do things global reach. You can get some people globally. So i can try to figure out how to get them on and just chit chat with him for me. Do like some bonus covers. Because i think is dope so one thing that nobody know about you i would say did. I'm a computer nerd. But they found out little by little. Yeah 'cause you say my day angle. I forgot about that. I am a bit of a computer nerd. More than most people know that some people knew. I worked apple for a. But it's more much more to. I know a lot of people in the camp. They're crying. Because i know i tell you. John saved my life. Well i made quite a few friends even Speaking of all star met. Anthony davis is people at the apple. Store how sweet so and it was funny because i was helping his dad not putting two and two together because davis is somewhat of a common name but i got a good look my man and he's like you know who am i was like He said you might know my son. I like looked at his name. I was like oh yes okay. Yeah yeah yeah yeah those nice so as far as like The dj's chicago. And i think you went to school. That i went to high apart tunnel. Dj's came that's amazing. Like how how many. How many guys that have park would you with me. Oh i don't know. I can you a list of nice range of some people that we all know. Remorse key love. Wow to myself to fares. Thomas will now. Dj fares salad to my brother. J c james derrick fosse. He's a five. We all play the middle together. I wanna say ron. Trent went there for a little while. Terry hundred definitely graduate. There's so much more so many more who's a house. How was one of those guys. One the oldest one not no remorse goal is. I'm i'm the second i'm more interested in. How how was it back in with like you guys out of the event like you say into and you spend how was it like being in that little circle It was a big circles. A matter of fact. I just thought us some more names walter to get down. Brown graduated with me bobby q. Bobby graduated with me sermon. Oliver graduated with me. Okay his brothers sean. And some of them. But it's what it was was there was a camaraderie of deanne oh fellow. Deejays say you knew who did what you know even if you did note them know them you knew because some people in their circle new people in your circle and it was a commerce. It was a respect thing. There was like fraternity just kind of kind of except we didn't all know each other. No he said we knew of each other and then it was probably more difficult. Because you didn't have social media back then like you know so. It was all about yeah. It was the hallway in the classroom for some notice person. But that's pretty dope so howard parties back who. That's what what no alcohol like this all you in a gymnasium and and how was it like like by tell me. What's the difference in nevada then back into this. Now no fighting. No but that's only part of it. people went full. The party right. They weren't for the music and there were quite a few to went for the dj's as well But it was. They went for the party. People got dressed up you in high school but you still got dressed up like it was Not prom course but people went on bought clothes. Because saturday night was this school party. Schools would actually have their parties on saturday nights instead of doing a week There were parents that chaperones there will teachers that were separates and there was money being passed with being paid right and sometimes off duty cops so the kept things in order. Lotta fun yeah. And i think the mentality kids back then it's totally different fordham integrity of the kids nowadays because then it was all about respect. Respect your elders respect the teachers and then you really respected the music. And that's very important to me. I don't know if kids going to go to school party because these blank is going to beat it. I don't think that's happening now. I doubt it. I've seen the teens. Today is all about dogs scored man. Your key is ipod iphone. It's not the guy standing turntables. So what advice would you give me right now. You keep doing what you right now. I'm trying man. Keep going on that. The word grow. Let let me speak assistant Club one six three is going on eight years in april sweet. I don't know how long you've been doing but that can be. Yeah so i In april i'll have one year in so nice i'm going to do. I want everybody. I want everybody to come out. And we're gonna have a called the bird's nest honors around. You told you and where i'm definitely going to Give homage to all of the people that have taken any time out to be a part of the show man and to me. This is history role like i. I wanna see more guys like you. come along man. Just tell me the story man like you know. This is something twenty years from now we can still play. You can sit back and laugh. Like i remember this day. And that's all i wanna do. I want people to go back and think about what they did twenty years ago if they ever heard and you know i'm at a point in my career especially with the chicago. Dj's whether they're up and coming to not I'm at the point where i want to see the next sign. I think i've always been that way in hindsight but i'm really at. I've been that way for a while. Mickey calvin was probably one of the first people couldn't wait to shine and i've known him since ten ninety s work we worked at a wreck is together. I got much love for that. Yeah i mean and is more in this. Melvin gentry yes. Part of my squad. I feel like. I'm building these as squad low key and i'm not trying to. I just want people to sign. And i feel like i got mine already. I'm comfortable in my space. I'm doing what i love doing. I'm still doing. The most important to me is being relevant right. 'cause i can be doing what i'm doing. Be irrelevant right right. You know as dope smells who will do. Shot out the melvin. That guy man like he is totally amazing make some great tunes and he got so much energy like i get tired watching. I don't good man. And he played music he really does their deejays a dance when they spend it as melvin. Yeah he's he's authentic with it. He dance dance. Yeah actually he's different. Yeah i've seen him dance heart and then people dance hard to. Yeah a lot of times these as dancing harder than everybody else in the building this week. That's not melvin. So i'm getting to a couple of touchy little comments right okay. So he said touchy just so i heard a story and farley told me the story oh boy had me the story about you. These early my notice the dj battle in how he influenced the crowd to get steve to what to basically steve want. Yes and i'm not taking anything for steve. I think he's like neither. Am i great producer. Just a person. Every time i see him he showed me love. And i'm not saying you are who you are you. Will you off for reason you doing your thing. How much more elevated in the canadian do you think you would've been if farley wouldn't have done that's a good question i'll never know I i feel like. I'm the tortoise in here in towards race you know slow and steady. I have had done that. I feel like i've i had peaked. At one point. I would be irrelevant. I just said something. About how important relevancy is i. Don't think i would have the same long zebedee. Had i say made that route. Well made that peak reformism and took my correct. My career net directs. And i don't think i would have had the same longevity. I have now i just. That's my thought. And as far as that solid to frawley for even being one hundred percent right what about that and hurley are best friends. Pretty much steve I've done his birthday party a couple times salads him that night. That event was kind of like a boxing match. I dunno boxes. I'm not gonna names but it's kind of like a boxing match with. Nobody really fell down boot. I do a lucky punch and knocked down. But he got right back up right but the judge said he won. Wow it was kind of like that you know it could have went anyway but the judge said he won did you did you hold any type of See i've never seen you angry. So i'm not gonna probably never will. I've never seen any serious like but did you hold any type of Animosity was upset with artie. For for that i was not i was not in the moment is like there was a sleight of hand mistake that i knew i made and i remember that like it. Was yesterday frankie knuckles rest in peace was wanted to judges kidneys. Ason was a judge probably was a this was a serious thing. This was the elimination round to get into the mix five. Wow this series. Yeah so. I was in that battle. You got eliminated early and we'll talk about that. That's not relevant hurley. Now we're going song for song. Record for record blame for blend. The lights came on. We had end. It was at middle. Jim too But i remember doing a slight of hand mistake. That most people may not have heard. But the bj's new frawley saw me look my head up in decided. Hold it against me. I'll never forget for. Frankie says i didn't hear mistakes. Can i think kennedy said me. Neither but frank would. I heard frankie. Said i was like. Wow franken's has valves from media but the unanimous decision. Yes so that made you a better man. I think i learned then it does nothing wrong with second place. Yeah got probably more accolades from that reason alone that super dope man like i'm proud of you like we don't we don't get into the second portion of the show which is the mix you'll stay around yeah to midnight finished but i just want to tell you man. I'm proud of you. I'm proud to call you friend. And i usually try to end the show with something that i remember that my guest did that kind of like That affected my dj career or my life and that was like one thing is whenever i call you. You always answer the phone and you always invites you out. The can we edit that part out because there's people don't feel that way my bad my bad. We'll take that out. No we not as somebody tells me. I wanna take days is man. I can't wait to be famous guys. I don't have to ask them my phone. I'm like but whenever responded invite you you always there man in and that is Something that i always always as they hold to and then the other thing is i think i got invited to play down. Wnyc and the cu. You sitting there like you know. I wanted to see what your comment came and And that was super dope man. I saw me when i man a little. Some people don't know about me. You mentioned it early when i go to hear dj. That i do know whether or not i try to be in the cut. So they don't see me. I don't want you to reach net other create the photo because you see me standing there. What you doing super special. And i'm so low key with it. I don't even want to tell everybody i'm there. Yeah i just wanna see you and your element and negga that was dope man so we go in the show i got i gotta thank my guest little john coming out and being a part of something that lisa just another dope podcast. But it ain't over because you're gonna play a little music. And i just want to thank and recognize a couple of people i or the ceo. See our and the branch manager other bird's nest cosette bird my wife. I love her to death. She allow me to do this. Like you know what. I'm telling you marry you know you gotta get you permission. Sometimes so she allow me to do this man. She loved what we do. She's definitely a part of a man and and she gives me good ideas to like sleeping and she. Also things like yeah. That's that's pretty so again. Give it up to me and my wife is also an i appreciate it and i wanna give it up to my guys obey river rock entertainment like you know. I had this dream and now they're making the to reality nice. This is like sixteen or seventeen show or something like that. so we're trying to stay consistent. We try to keep giving you all which i need with these Guests so they can come out and talk a little bit and let us know about what they've got going on. Also let you guys know. Every friday from five o'clock to nine o'clock we had to 'em lounge house music. Happy hours when i tell you that is one of the dope little full hours in a very nice intimate setting. You gotta come check it out no cover charge like any that i've had always say the next day like i love the feeling with the people being like right there right right right the anguish and they're not touch you talking to you but they enjoy. Nevada vibe is so dope and say what you wanna say about it. I love it. I'm not going anywhere and we got queen. Be coming up this week for her birthday. And craig loftus night. So i'm looking forward to that. We got peace and respect the group. D immaculate Alan king so we always got something somebody different you know. We want to eat some different. And i wanted they reach out to people that are not of the african american culture that play house music. I wanna invite them out to man. I want a different field different flavor. So you know we about diversity man so we wanna give everybody a shot. Broke out three outs seconds First of all the milwaukee sees a house heat dj peace who had an incredible birthday party. And i was audited. He let me play there. He ain't got no crib. You know house you got a club did you go to the back of. Did you go through the bank. That's like onto the barricade. It is like i was. I gotta blue vinyl else. Create incredible sat out to all the houses and all the house. Dj's any dj has ever rock with me and my career but last but not least sat up to my. I wanna call my mini me right now. Oh his name. Is john l. i. L. j. o. n. Yeah he's in. Gary maybe twenty one twenty two. You know. i could've went the wrong way with that situation. 'cause point name exactly like mine so instead of a mammal questions dude. I said let me. Embraced is do yeah. He's he's next you know he's often take my spot these next. He's that generation these young. He's doing podcasts radio. Show saturday him. All i know is i want to say he's on social media found his d. d. e. j. j. o. n. somebody to me is l. i. L. j. o. H. n. u. Say yeah and that's a teachable. Moment that you did. Because he's gonna pass that along to somebody off always remember. He's got it on video now. Slot normally met him. We talked to liberal. Let's talk about any original. G looks is so he gave me all mine acknowledged him as friends and putting on video. You can see it all on. Id and snapchat wound snapchat. But i heard it. Yeah so but yeah so. Dj little john the other one i gotta give it up to him and i think we talked about this before but then last one i leased. I gotta give it up to a steve nolan. If you guys have not downloaded this show chicago house music. Oh yes yes. It is the know it all to where it all to. What's going on in chicago on house. Music side the thing. I love about it with this. Do that there's no favoritism if you gotta fly out there. He added to his Site in connecticut alert. Give you the map on how to get there. I mean it is the know it all to how that's one of the best inventions that somebody could have a because man when i when i look at it i take it out like like and it's up to date broke up to date. It ain't no lag you know so go to your phone. Stores download sakala house music man and like. I said that it's called the chicago house. Music events app. I'm sorry and steve nolan man. The invention his great role. Keep plugging along and like. I was shocked when i went on there. And he's got a dropbox for the podcast. Yes it puts you right into the link for the birds as pockets revolving these guys don't have to massachu- and they do they see what you're doing and they appreciate you missile. Shout out to that guy. I sat out to my major move squad. Major moves stands for mickey john and renee renee. Sonia lady alicia mckee calvin myself and melvin. Melvin squat the moves. Yeah i friday's i. Ride is a vip barn rule out in country club. You feel the south suburbs. You go check them out. Man like vip is nice. Call it is. I got a new wednesday night. Changing at liquor sloughs rewind wins zero eighty seven percent lawrence. What time what from seven pm. Until i call it house music and more in his all retro and added a new stuff okay. Old school hip hop r&b. I played some zap raza traumas and cameo of. I feel like do they do they. I believe they do. I'm gonna try to come up there. And did they come through. Yeah i cool so look into this. Mix and sit back relax. Enjoy the ride wilma mandy there. 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"Good evening and welcome to chicago tonight. I'm brandon friedman and i'm peres shuts tonight a special edition of the program helping kickoff. Wtt new firsthand initiative focusing this year on poverty on the show tonight. The fbi is part of the secret. Service is part of it. We look at security in place. For the presidential inauguration on wednesday including vetting members of the military. It can be a cascade of events. Unemployment has hit record highs during the pandemic as we help launch. Wtt ws firsthand initiative focusing on poverty. We explored the link between unemployment and poverty are was too much time chicago so it was hard. The state county and city are responding to a poverty pandemic that predates covid nineteen and that is driving some people out of illinois. You need help sometimes. Cash assistance no questions asked what are basic income payments and write a some advocates. Say they can help. Families in poverty reach their financial goals. A look at suburban poverty which has skyrocketed in recent years. We talk with a group working on that issue and someone who's experiencing it firsthand. And it's been fifty five years since. Dr martin luther king junior arrived in chicago's north longdale community revisiting. The working did in slum conditions in combat discriminatory housing practices. But first some of today's top stories of the twenty six th anniversary of the martin luther king junior service. Volunteers dedicated the martin. Luther king junior bridge that crosses the bishop ford expressway in the rose. More neighborhood this is a revolution started by this man and we honour him today in his full legacy as a man of a full revolution. And that's what we have y'all here today. Y'all just stay at home. Take it easy vacation day. You guys came out today as a legacy of that. Radical action bridges volunteers from my block. My hood my city and the rose more community association dedicated the bridge with a plaque and distributed personal protective equipment to more than two thousand senior citizens. Volunteers also decorated the bridge with red roses. In honor of reverend king illinois public health officials announced nearly thirty four hundred new cases of corona virus and fifty additional deaths. Today the state's total number of cases stands just over one million seventy two thousand with eighteen thousand two hundred and fifty eight deaths. The state positivity rate is seven percent and this weekend chicago lost a pioneer and a member of the wto w family. Jim tillman wore many hats pilot. Broadcaster musician author and trailblazer here. He is phil. Say back in two thousand seventeen discussing the start of his broadcasting career right here at w. w. our people because you started your broadcast career here on chicago here on. Wbz w row quickly. What was our people. Our people was an expression of voice gave visibility invoice for people who had done. It gave us an opportunity to do our stories. Not just one. On broadcast television stories that were germane to us and stories that were meaningful to us at people that were meaning close in subject matter and everything else. It was an outlet that needed to be had to be right then for the engineering. My own thanks to jim. Tillman for blazing that trail at the time. He was discussing his new book. I just wanted to fly about his careers in the military and is one of the first black commercial airline pilots. Tillman went on to become the host of our people here at wtt w and later weatherman and broadcaster at other stations in chicago. He died at his home in scottsdale arizona this weekend at the age of eighty six. And we'll have more of fills 2017 conversation with jim. Tillman on tomorrow. Night's program and now to paris preview of security plans in place. For wednesday's inauguration. Paris brand has barricades security checkpoints. A huge military presence are surrounding the. Us capitol ahead of wednesday's inauguration the swearing in of a new president. Always comes with heightened security but this ceremony comes two weeks after the capitol building was breached. And the some the lockdown right. now is a jarring site. We don't wanna see fences. Are we definitely. Don't want to see armed troops on our streets but we do have to take a different posture. We are part of the layer defense to ensure that the bubble the bubble that will be around the vice president elect and the president elect so that we can have a peaceful transfer of power and joining us to talk about inaugural security are javid ali. Townsley policymaker in residence at the university of michigan's ford school and he previously worked for the national security council and department of homeland security among others in ross rice. A former fbi special agent who spent thirty years in the bureau's chicago office gentlemen. Welcome to chicago tonight. Thank you ross. Inaugurations are always a massive national security events their fortified but this year extra layer with twenty five thousand national guard troops. Are you confident that this will be carried out safely well. I don't like to try to predict the future. But i think every step has been taken to ensure a smooth transition of power I know a lot of people are concerned about the inauguration given what happened Two weeks ago in the capital. I think quite frankly the least from my perspective the two events are completely unrelated Rate steps have been taken to secure the The inauguration ceremony it's considered a national special security event and it's been in the planning process for months if not longer Of the secret service in the fbi take the lead on that the secret service for extra physical security and the fbi for assessments in investigating any incidents that might take place during before or after the inauguration javid alley does it act as a deterrent to possible. Extremist groups are militias. When you have a situation that's that fortified i mean. Does it just tell them to stay away. A pair of great question certainly One would think that with that many resources on the ground in washington. Dc looking at the twenty five thousand national guard troops heavy presence of federal law enforcement. The secret service is ross. As mentioned than other state and local government resources there will be rings and rings of security and then hard security features all over washington. Dc but that doesn't mean that there's absolutely zero risk of of a threat. Hopefully there won't be As we used to counter tears of the enemy always gets a vote so even if washington dc is significantly protected and certainly seems to be as the fbi voting from almost now a weekend or a week ago suggested there was the potential for threats across the entire country or at least that steakhouses or other public buildings. So that's another feature of this. Threat is not going to dissipate. After the inauguration. It is here to stay. I think it's already a permanent feature of the domestic security landscape and this is something that my former colleagues former colleagues they're going to have to struggle with for a long time because we just don't think we have still the right paradigm to deal with this kind of security ross writes. Do you agree. Do you agree with that. I mean this is here to stay. Well beyond the inauguration perhaps permanent insurrectionist movement where there will be targets on government buildings either state capital or at the us capitol. What we've had what we call a domestic terrorism for decades. It's not new. What what has changed is the the motivation of the terrorists It's a very small fraction of the population Very vocal Is it going to be in the forefront for awhile. Yes i think so. Is it a long term threat to national security or stability of the government. I don't think so. I think people are upset for righty reasons and Cooler heads eventually prevail and java alley their defense department last night told the that they're concerned about possible Inside attacks where there might be sympathizers in the national guard That that are tasked with guarding the ceremony on wednesday And there are documented Instances of perhaps extremism filtering into the armed services. How big a threat do you think that is certainly a threat. And there have been a number of cases of individuals with interactive duty status or former military service who have been caught up in these far right beliefs ideas and some even in two thousand twenty. There were several actually disrupted lots of people that those backgrounds and then there was. One lethal attack tragically last summer. Where active duty air force sergeant self professed member herb supporter of the blue movements shot and killed two law enforcement officers in california. So it's it's real. But i think what occurred over the last twenty four forty eight hours that seemed less based on sort of the notion of an active credible threat from any of the guard troops deployed on the ground. I think it was just another prudent screening measure that went into effect to. Just make sure you're trying to minimize risk and for folks like ross myself. You know we used to get screen like that all the time so. I don't think it's that unusual to have that kind of check happen. It may seem a little jarring So close to the inauguration. But i'm i'm not as concerned as others. So more of a pro forma announcement there ross. Rice know a lot of critics of the response jerry. Six say that that there was just a failure on multiple fronts either by intelligence or sharing intelligence or adequately fortifying the capital in the wake of known threats Do you agree with some of those assessments. Well something went wrong and to sit here and try and second guests and say what was that would be responsible to do there. There's gonna be an investigation. But people have to realize is the capital rebuilding. The grounds is an entity unto itself. It's the the jurisdiction of the members of congress and in particular the speaker that's why they have the capitol police their. That's their job is to pick building members of congress. They didn't take the threat seriously or they didn't have the resources that they thought they had to building beck the browns but intelligence was given to them and when i'm not sure But if you look at the video you look at the the images from from that day. Many of the people that were there they came prepared. You know they didn't go to a rally and get motivated by the president. Then run home and get helmets ballistic armor and makeshift weapons. They came to washington prepared to do battle of some sort certainly seems seems to indicate we only have a few seconds left. But you've written a column talking about the weaponization of patriotic language. Folks calling themselves patriots in the service of going out and committing violent acts. So what should americans know about this movement and how folks have been radicalized disturbing feature what's going on or what's been going on the last year and this notion now that people will claim to be patriots and wrap themselves around the flag or returns that seem ordinary to to most americans um and then use that to justify violent action against the government or other perceived enemies that is something very disturbing. Think we've seen that and modern history and this is another piece of the puzzle. That's going to be examined as we're gonna have to monitor all these things we hope to have you both back up but for now our thanks to the job at ali and ross writes thank you so much thank you and up next special coverage of poverty as w w kicks off its year long firsthand living in poverty initiative. So please stick around. What can you tell us about how chicago small businesses are doing. These are more than just shopping centers for the community gathering places where they maintain their culture as we mentioned at the top of the program. Wtt ws firsthand living in poverty. A yearlong initiative launches today on mlk day and during poverty awareness month. You can explore the documentaries expert talks and related content at t w dot com slash poverty long before the coronavirus pandemic communities of color across illinois and in the city we're experiencing in epidemic of poverty. Twenty twenty state report finds that as of twenty eighteen one in eight illinois. we're living in poverty. For a family of three that was defined as having an annual income of over twenty thousand dollars black women in illinois three times more likely to experience poverty than white men and one in three black children lived below the poverty line and that was before the pandemic created a perfect storm of need as covert one thousand nine hit black and brown communities. The hardest joining us are soci- florez bureau chief. For economic development for cook county candice more city of chicago's very first chief equity officer a position created under mayor lori lightfoot and so floor as one of illinois's deputy governors thanks to all three of you for joining us. Deputy governor so florez. Let's start with you please. At twenty thousand dollars for a family of three are we defining poverty accurately surely family of three at thirty or even forty thousand dollars is likely struggling. Yeah absolutely that's exactly right and they're struggling on multiple fronts. How to pay. Rents make sure they're living in a stable house hotter than sure that their their food secure. They have enough food to eat when they need to eat making sure that they have access to transportation to healthcare to school supplies. Oh and once in a while you have to also buy new clothes. I think you're exactly right. It's it's well below what it what most individuals can live on in this country even when you're struggling day-to-day how would you deputy governor. How would you describe the level of need before the pandemic the before the pandemic excuse me and how it is now nearly you know eleven months into it well at the talks about one in eight illinois right you also know about one in six children. The other thing that we know is that poverty in the state of illinois has not significantly increased or decreased rather in the last three years. So what we've been doing incrementally has not been working. We also know that social mobility has significantly decreased so we know that our children are doing worse off than their parents before right which is the reverse which is exactly who want to have happened. We know that there is a significant amount of work to do the pandemic as you also sack has written the band aid off and make glaringly clear what poor people mistake were already dealing with. And now we have even more people dealing with it and unfortunately it continues to shine a light. People of color black latino and immigrant communities rural communities continue to struggle prior to the pandemic and even more so now and so two floors. What are the most acute needs that you would say you're seeing. Is it a matter of housing or food insecurity mental health while across the board. We're seeing the needs just exacerbated during this time we saw in the us over a mine. Americans are slipping into poverty since may and this pandemic is exposing how easy it is to law from the middle class into poverty and people just really need to depend on their government right now and asked us to function swear fan officially to strengthen these vital networks of support. We're seeing that across the board from housing from Individuals having food insecurity from children at even having laptops to to work and studied remotely. So it's across the board And specifically within cook county we have focused primarily on our suburban areas of the county so our distribution of funding goes to the two point five million residents and one hundred thirty municipalities of our suburban cook county areas candice more. Of course we know that systemic racism means black and brown communities are disproportionately impacted by poverty But of course we also know those same communities have been disproportionately impacted by this pandemic from the city's perspective. What can you do. What are you doing to help remedy those inequities at a city and really across government. It's important to actually center that as a truth of the problem that we are dealing with and then think about as we are thinking about solutions. How do we focus on the targeted communities that we really need to hit and that is to the except to the accession of other communities. That's shoring that our strategies at our focus is going to move the needle for that community so that means thinking about Neighborhoods thinking about how we baked available access to our services is this i come. Versus is actually a period of time in which we can do the appropriate outreach to let people know about the services and the resources that are out there so really sort of pushing ourselves stretching our muscles in how do deliver our resource is with that is towards equity really and mine now in our firsthand poverty series Dominatrix chambers helps us address the cost of housing. She was an excellent high school student But has been struggling to earn a college degree and to find a job as well as affordable housing. Here's something that she told us. Today is the day that moved to indiana. I was looking for apartments in chicago. Stuff was hard. It was too much a fan of john in chicago so it is hard. Dan a miracle happened in. My brother happened to have a parliament serbia. indiana kansas more. What do you say to someone who who finds that. They have to leave the city in order to make way for themselves. Yeah i mean. I think for us here. In the city that increases the demand on us to think about solutions around affordable housing around jobs to make sure that we we recognize that that the circumstances that are presenting right now are forcing people to make these really tough decisions. That a noting. How in this in this case this person is thinking about their their family is and how people are pulling together to make ends meet. This is the same situation that we're dealing with inside the city and we have to think about on a systemic level. What is affordable housing. Look like even under the constraints that we are under an style. That has been really top of mind. I know there's been a tunnel focus on affordable housing and the city but also thinking about all the urgency of the moment and the resources that we can deliver. So did you flora's window that the burden of property taxes has fallen on disproportionately poor homeowners and that lenders have historically not provided loans to black and brown communities as much as they do in white communities. How do you address the kinds of Inequities that have been decades in the making. Well you are correct. In terms of the decades in the making specifically over the last twenty years we've seen across the us there has been an increase in suburbanization of poverty so individuals such as the one that just The just shared her story. We we see that happening across suburban cook county People cannot are moving towards these areas and not not just with the property taxes but an across the board access social services with them many of these communities. It's very difficult for individuals because these communities have not built out to support systems needed by this growing low income population so they have a weaker support safety net within these areas. So that's an area that we have been extremely focused on figuring out how to address these. These safety nets tending to be provided within our suburban counties and deputy governor floor as i'm going to give you the last word because we've got about thirty seconds. Left governor pritzker repeatedly called on the federal government For more assistance. I believe the mayor has said the same. What kind of support are you expecting from biden administration. We're expecting a lot of support first and foremost attacking the pandemic right and that means delivering additional vaccine as quickly as possible. It means sending federal resources to illinois to help us develop and execute mass vaccination sites it means increasing testing opportunities and of course it means additional aid for local jurisdictions and states to wrote cover from some of our lost revenue source says along with additional just like we had before cheers funding support for rental assistance food security and health. Care services. Okay we'll have to leave it there. Thanks to deputy governor soul florez social florez from cook county and candice more from the city of chicago and now paris back to you. Thanks now we take a look at a clip from one of the new firsthand. Living in poverty documentaries this part follows roseland resident patricia jackson and her husband derek. They're working to get a delivery business off. The ground with the help of basic income payments from an organization called the family independence initiative or f. I let's take a look. Dri was here and when a tree in our. I had a big tree and in this way when the tree fail. Ev broke all. It is a broken pieces this whole garage out that that meant that now have to decide on to pay the whole lybia or get on a pasha plan. Now i gotta get on a plane. Because i don't have the money for emergency see. I really never had an emergency money. My daughter and i had had got some money from empire and put it together and had him start on f as they ask for a family independence initiative. They give you a certain amount of funds to use towards your goals. I think about this here. One of the things that my mom wants to get done is her kitchen. The window cheated new floor new cabinet sync everything all paul hogan two thousand same the funds. If i give out you do not have to pay it back home. It's like a gift new stall fm and fm. Money hope remy back today. We'll my car notes with the kea schooling. And it's as lincoln and we going to go through trials and tribulations why you live in this world and you need help. Sometimes and they was that organization that was like we understand real life situations. They wanted to help people in our community that had goals that it was hard or impossible to get along. You know because of you're crazy or because of the color. Spn war because of your income. You know f. I was like we're not looking at any of that. We looking at a person that has a drain and go and we just want to help them fulfil. What kind of stuff have you done with your mom. Oh my god. I have done so much. we just wheat. Well my three goals when we first started was to fix my credit toys Buying a house and to work towards my husband truck. He has his home business. He didn't have a road trip. He had wrench saying he had pay like forty five to fifty dollars a day so it was like wasting money and joining us with more on. Basic income payments are haresh patel director of the group economic security for illinois evans scott partnership director at family independence initiative. Which you saw. In that film and patricia jackson f. i. recipient and the firsthand documentary participant. We also saw in that clip and as we start our conversation. Let's show a clip from Former presidential candidate andrew yang promoting the idea of a universal basic income. Here he is at the twenty nine thousand nine democratic presidential debate my flagship proposal the freedom dividend would put one thousand dollars a month into the hands of every american adult begin changer. For millions of american families harish patel. There's different ideas here. You have the incoming president. Joe biden talking about a fourteen hundred direct cash payment. You have the idea of a universal basic income and then in this case a guaranteed income. What's the difference. I will thank you for having us. you know. The idea of basic income guarantee income cash has been around for a long time as it is. Mlk day today There's a close that's been flying around. That came across my desk. Which is him talking about. Nine hundred sixty seven in talking about a guaranteed income so andrew yang Mayor tubs a lot. More folks now talking about it as a perspective of how you put cash into people's pockets and there's probably a different perspective on how you get there for me and for i kinda suitable annoy cash as dignity freedom and government to do what you want with the money Basic income covers ground. That you you know anybody who qualified and get it whereas joint income is a little bit more targeted towards let's see geography or raised her gender and that ultimately is what What a difference. And that's what family independent of is doing the guaranteed income targeted to a specific audience. Here so tell us how it works. avenue scott. Thanks for having a you know. I really worked in a very simple fashion. We go out and we try to bind families who have goals and initiative. And i'm like most. Americans are working diligently towards them and so we make a direct cash investment in them live we also encourage then to tell us about the social capital that they're exchanging in their community because that's part of why doesn't often get talked about. Which is how people are helping people every single day in communities. And i think one of the things that f. i. Apart is that you know when we meet families we don't put them through the rainier enforcing to prove that. They are humble and worthy and deserving right. You don't have to come to us. They downtrodden and. I just want a little help right like. that's not what we're doing. We recognize patricia and her family as whole incapable and made an investment because she came to us already knowing what the path forward look inside. That's what makes behind a little bit different than a lot of reports that are out there and you say the documentary that this is based on the trust that you have that families know what to do with income they they know how to make wise choices patricia and the clip. We saw you talking about using this. Faa income to help your husband purchase a truck for his business. So how has that affected your husband's business overall family. Hi thanks for having me. It affected us in a positive way. right now my husband has his own trump. He can go as you please. You work seven days a week if he went if you want and all the prophets he. You don't have to pay somebody to write a trunk in order to work so Everything that he makes is our profit. So it makes a difference and you know haven't read something versus already burs audited yourself and It's just a great difference. I mean we want in a positive direction so this is giving you boost to do the things that you want in life. Herash what would you say to the critics that say that universal basic income are guaranteed income. Could be a disincentive to work. I would say to them to just look at data. There's been hundreds of years of research done internationally and nationally. Two years ago remain a task force that could compile all this research and chicago and the task force has a report that can look at And the report shows That that is not true. Not only that. What is really Dad is that most people actually working multiple jobs. Most people are trying to make end where worth economy jobs and three jobs and for us it would be helpful for people to have one job and make sure that those jobs actually pay. And it doesn't pay right now and evans scott. The f. i it's funded by a philanthropic grants its eighteen million dollars as i understand for these guaranteed payments. So tell us the scope of the program and what you've seen from other families like patricia's here in chicago you know we're a national organizations around for about twenty years here in chicago. We have about five hundred families that have been enrolled into what we call our initiative and the across the board are are really motivating and inspiring. Right we have lots of families like tristesse. We have one gentleman who immediately upon joining invested the additional dollars back into the glamour gaping business because he was a single dad raising his kids and the children of of a sibling who had passed away. And so you know to build off with both herash ankle. Tristesse said we see our families go out and do more work as an investment in as a result of the investment and the notion that they're going to do the opposite is really rooted in some an invas- trust and a lot of races and classes. Things we think about before we love to talk about how lazy for folks are but our data shows us that that is the opposite. I've you know it is astounding to me every month to look at the data and to see how folks are starting five businesses starting side hustles using the money to go back to school while they work they. They actually do more. It's still if they have the additional cash to do so so it has a real stimulant of impact patricia. You ain't talked about breaking down barriers here. Your husband being able to have his own truck and not have to pay those daily payments. What about other aspects of life Education bills is this helping you with that asked me It definitely helps with education. I had a school loan and with the help of f. I am Me paying through my job. I was able to pay off my student loan so i no longer have a student loan As far as like with deals you know when my husband could work for months on pandemic i happened We had some of those funds in a savings account so it was a wet tours helping us so it desolate help. Give you a boost. Thing is that it definitely gives you. You know that step you need to go towards what it in the right down a very interesting discussion. Certainly an apropos. Time to talk about it. Congratulations on the documentary. Our thanks reach mattel. Ebony scott and patricia jackson thank you so much and now brandis go back to you paris. Thank you still to come on chicago tonight. Looking at a growing problem poverty in the suburbs. We meet some of the cast firsthand documentary and revisiting. Dr martin luther king junior's to end slum conditions in combat descr discriminatory housing practices. But first we continue our special program helping launch. Wtt ws firsthand living in poverty initiative with a look at a subject that has been at the forefront of the news for this past year unemployment which hit record levels as businesses forced to shut down laid off workers. I mean finicky joins us. Now with more amanda. Wd hunt is a hairstylist in downstate danville and she remembers last march when the state shutdown her salon because of covid nineteen suddenly through of her own. She was without any income. She's self-employed which means we don't have an employer that hazing to unemployment so we had no options. You know we were literally told you're not going to be able to work. But we have no source of income. Nothing to fall back on or anything like that in. Initially it was two weeks but then it quickly turned into a war extending that. We're extending that. She says it left her with a pit in her stomach eventually. A month later she did get some money through the pandemic unemployment assistance program that is a particular special federal program that is meant to help the self employed end gig workers but she says she still was left behind on her bills even though thankfully she says she had her husband who kept his job. It left her worried for others. Like all the single moms who have kids. They headed support during it and they had no source of income and still had every single bill coming in because nothing bills. Didn't see the freeze in pay. You were still supposed to be paying those since. Oh i honestly don't know how a lot of people got through university of chicago's bruce. Meyer co authored. A study that examined income poverty end the nineteen pandemic so research showed what he describes as a dramatic increase in poverty in the latter. Half of twenty twenty. The largest increase was one point. Four percentage points over an entire year and we saw a two point three percent increase over five months. The impact he says is on even across demographic groups. Blacks were disproportionately impacted as were those without a higher education. He says the six hundred now. Three hundred dollar covid boost and unemployment benefits did help. But he says that while that makes a big difference for those could make less money to start wes. While more middle class people who ended up losing their jobs they had a smaller fraction of their loss. Certains replace as end. That pandemic bump doesn't go as far if you had been making more money to begin. With jeremy rosen director of economic justice at the shriver center on poverty law says pre pandemic unemployment rates were near record lows around three or four percent. Now they've climbed steeply with rates close to ten percent for many black and latino households literally is among the states with the highest number of unemployment claims in the nation. And i think that's really Functional fact that we have so many people in chicago and the surrounding areas Who work at exactly. The type of low wage jobs that have been most impacted during the pandemic personally and the government has not been equal to the task of responding on the federal level. There was a huge lapse in time between the initial cares act in the covid response followed. Last month and illinois's department of employment security is still overwhelmed failed at its task of actually getting most benefits to people so congress in the federal government can authorize benefits for people that they can actually apply for and receive those benefits successfully. It doesn't mean a whole lot for people. They're not getting the money that they're actually eligible for. Losing a job is the sort of life event that can lead to a cascade of others says tat rona legal director carpools legal aid that t- take one down into debt and poverty A one time thing but they never recover from sometimes employment has been a way out of poverty and then to lose that job is sliding back into poverty so unemployment benefits are a real bridge to get you to what we hope will be a brighter spot in the future. One of the ways. Carpools is helping me money. He is a brand new chat. Bot takes the user through a logic tree a conversation if you will to find out where they're at in their unemployment journey and along the way give some helpful tips. Lets them know whether they're on the right path curve balls has since developed other chat bots to help those on its covid assistance website into what people who need it through things that aren't related like foreclosure debt and eviction. Meanwhile going forward you of caesar. Bruce meyer is still keeping an eye on poverty data. He is optimistic. That with that latest stimulus and also should any of president elect biden's plans go through well then. He expects that we are going to see poverty. Rates decline friend is back to you for many people hope so amanda thank you and no para expect to you branch. Thanks and now. We look at another clip from wcw's i document documentary new documentary series firsthand living in poverty. This episode follows gary later hof zion as he seeks out new employment looks for reliable transportation and takes care of his young daughter literally paycheck to paycheck after rent. Phone bill diapers for my kid wipes money just gets accounted for right away. I don't have a car. I don't have to constantly get people to give me rides for gas money. Farsi real quick. I really get car made my life so much. Easier second priority that any run outs necessity after wearing my friend. Malcolm and his girlfriend. Emily pick me up to go. Pick up my my daughter mia's from my friend matt's house peanut d. Did you guys boo to lose my daughter. mia bella. she's a two and a half years old right now. I don't think i would be where i'm at right now without you. Play with the yeah. Nah look goes dealership right now at this car. Hopefully i'm looking at hopefully a truck man 'cause i we can take a bunch of extra lakeside work and stuff with it. It's expensive like having to pay people man like back and forth with her like that and i can get in somewhere paying more money. Yeah i mean they're they're good people there but it's not going to cut it for well-managed say goodbye. Hugs postal to like the thirty first that promotion that they have right now all these dealerships are hurting so bad so they're just giving everybody cars like anybody i know why will what what why because it's his or you say well why johan's turn right it right. Go right connection being in his area. Because there's not much out here if you want to go out and find a job that's where you live comfortable. You definitely need transportation. 'cause you're gonna have to venture outside of zion and now joining us with more are megi. Morale is director of the lake county community foundation and gary later hav who we just saw in that clip from firsthand living in poverty. Thank you both for being here. Well it's good to see you and gary Just a fascinating documentary fascinating series. Tell us how things have been going for you since you film that documentary. We're going very well for a while. Just recent i split girlfriend. We were living together. Unfortunately i may Back in the area that go ahead go ahead starting back designed area so unfortunately. That's where the only option and what. Why did you want to be involved in this project that we're doing just looking at poverty in the chicago area colleague. Put a story out there so people can see it's a lot of people they kind of turn their head. Maybe they'll see what it's like. And also i went through like a lot of stuff and maybe help somebody overcome like addiction. And you know not become a product of their environment and maggie morale. Is you know we tend to think of poverty is something that's a big problem in urban areas in rural areas but not so much the suburbs. And here we're focusing on the suburbs. Why that perception. I think you know it's a. It's a huge misconception. That poverty is in urban issue and that is predominantly impacting communities of color and here in lake county we see poverty all throughout the community and Those in poverty here in lake county. Roughly thirty eight percent of them are on individuals are caucasian. So you know it's not. It's not concentrated in one particular area and i think as So cheese shared earlier in the segment. You know the suburbanization of poverty creates the very issues that gary is experiencing an on a daily basis with trying to secure employment and access proper transportation. That's reliable to get him to and from work. Well let's look at another clip from our firsthand series living in poverty those time and right before my daughter was born in looking back. I now like i put myself through a lot. You know just something that is pointless scares me so much thinking to my daughter can very easily get wrapped up into that and just like throw her life away like that would break my heart. Just that's the one thing. That really scares me about like falling like really hard. So gary you just said you'd been through a lot of stuff that That you can share that with other folks. You're talking about addiction problems. What is the advice that you wanna share to others. Perhaps going through this. It's not easy at all. I mean it you gotta wanna i mean I had so many people reach out. Try to help me And i never got myself clean till generally wanted to do it Yes it's a about a like easy partisan ian clean. It's just playing catch up from everything that she threw away a star or burning by vices. Do it's a guinea any hope that's being offered to you. People out there that will genuinely help. You and maggie. We're talking about You know lake county suburbs lake county. We think of as one of the most affluent counties in the country. But there's a huge disparity in that county talk about that so you know. We're we're known as one of the wealthiest counties the wealthiest county in the state of illinois. By when you really start to drill down and look at the numbers you can see that. There's tremendous disparity between the holiday of life just five miles apart from one municipality to another in it affects everything at affects people's life expectancy so. Here's a fourteen year. Difference in life expectancy are richest community and one of our poorest north chicago. And that the stuff that we're really working to address because your zip code should not dictate your future gary. What's that experience like for you. You know living in difficult conditions sometimes but you know so close by you. See such affluence in certain communities. It's i mean for longest guy Would have like the towards it Just grew up in. So i guess there's something else used to Additional will think said. They're just a target site Low income areas. But it doesn't it. Doesn't discriminate demi gaul's goes everywhere. Certainly it knows no demographic or physical boundaries megi how's the pandemic affected some of the efforts to combat poverty in the suburbs specifically. So i you know. I think that the pandemic and just everything that's happening in the environment Politically and socially has really Amplified is issues and really demonstrated the a huge disparity that that lies within the communities. are wealthy and those that aren't and that disproportionate investment and so You know creates this this. Divide when we need to be united and so what we've been focusing on At the community foundation is really building a permanent crisis relief funds to respond to these needs. And i'm in lake county. The biggest needs our senior really access to food Rent is another significant issue You know regular transportation to provide healthcare on for appointments that are non cova related is even an issue. So it's really touching on a lot of the same things. Gary stories highlighted. Our community foundation is really a played a coordinating role and the county to help support. philanthropy an ordinary that investment. So that really leveraging everydollar and maximizing that impact partners are as certainly a lot of things exacerbating you have to deal with on a day to day basis. We have to leave it. There are thanks to maggie morales and gary laid off. Thank you so much and up next. Look at dr. Martin luther king. Junior's legacy in lonsdale in january nineteen. Sixty six dr martin luther king junior his wife kereta and their four children moved into a west side tenement and set to work addressing a major facet in his lifelong battle against poverty quality affordable housing. Here's a story and conversation that first aired on yesterday's chicago tonight. Black voices when reverend martin luther king junior came to lonsdale fifty years ago this month. His mission was to bring an end to the discriminatory housing practices. That forced many black chicagoans to live in terrible conditions. Look forward to coming to chicago with ray. Dan eager anticipation upon his arrival in longdale. King and three civil rights organizations seized. This three flat on south homan avenue were tenants. Were living with no heat. Electricity or hot water king and the other buildings tenants work together to fix up the building but kings vision for chicago went far beyond fixing up dilapidated housing in nineteen sixty seven speech. King said quote if there is to be genuine there must be a radical redistribution of economic and political power fifty years later the redistribution king hoped for has yet to reach lonsdale though. The neighborhood was struggling with poverty. When king lived here. Sixteenth street was still lined with shops and apartment buildings today vacant lots dominate sixteenth street and affordable quality. Housing is still in short supply when he was assassinated in nineteen sixty eight king was preparing to launch the poor people's campaign his movement for economic justice. One of the pillars of that campaign reflected his work in longdale the fight to secure fair housing which he saw as crucial to enabling families to lift themselves out of poverty. Joining us to talk about how fair housing and poverty intersect are cannon senior director of break of development for break through urban ministries. A faith based nonprofit organization on chicago's west side and richard town. Sell executive director of longdale christian development corporation. Welcome both of you to chicago tonight. Black boys and thanks for joining us. We'll cannon let's start with you please. How does affordable housing and housing assistance help people to achieve financial stability. That there is thank you for the question. I think there are a couple of things you know. It's not just about getting people housed and making sure that they are safe right is also about giving them quality housing when a person is housed they safe. They're able to live in a way that's honorable to them. Then that impacts their employment their ability to gain and maintain employment. They don't have to worry about reading on sleep where they're going to prepare their food. That impacts their hells than impacts everything in their lives and so housing state. Housing is one thing but affordable housing is something totally. Did you mentioned one of them. But what are some of the positive ripple effects that come with having that kind of stable affordable housing. That's you know so this. I have a very personal experience with this. There was a person that i know who was going to school. It had employment but she was couch surfing which is She did make enough to live on her own and so she had to live with one of her relatives whether relatives could no longer allow her to sleep on their couch and so she had to move her clothes into a storage bin and everyday goal to the storage change her clothes and then go to school in angola to her employer let employer. That's where she would sleep or wash up or do things like that. When they found out that she was doing that she lost her job. This is how that impacts a person's live it's not just about housing in the way that we think but when you have a house you don't have to worry about where you're going to take a shower. You had to figure out where he gonna sleep every night. That thing that very simple thing that many of us take for granted is something that's major. It caused her to lose her job simply because she did not have a place to regularly rest every night. Richard town sell your organization. Longdale christian development corporation you all manage several mixed income housing developments including the dr king legacy apartments which i was just able to see this past week and they stand on the site of the building where dr king lived. Can this model be replicated. In other parts of the city has been replicated of there's been you know robust work in communities like hilson on the south side quad communities there a bustling committed on the corporation moved chicago groups. Like every diack and others have been doing this for fifteen years and so it it can be replicated. It has been replicated in and we learned from others as well in tweeted on the corporation view. If it can be replicated has been replicated. What more does city government need to do to help. Remedy the problem. Affordable housing wasn't the issue really starts at the federal level. I think hud has not really given in the same way. That chicago's after bows for transportation. Every year i delegate does a great job of getting transportation dollars. They have to do the same thing you know. There is in short supply of it for every person that wins an award with the department of housing to do a development. The martin luther king apartments there probably ten or fifteen. That didn't get in on so we need resources to be able to do this work. And addition get one of the things that we we're working on with the city. Is we have a thousand homes campaign so shirt. I'm wearing talks. About the north london homeowners association. Our goal is to build a thousand homes on the south side on the west side for working families. And we're working with the city to realize that inspired the i two hundred fifty a homes in north lonsdale orlando has been key to helping us train and develop new homeowners that will will own those homes so so sitting. Play his part. We got to play our part as well. My thanks to london cannon and richard town for joining us again that conversation first aired on chicago tonight black voices over the weekend you can see an extended version on our website and you can catch chicago tonight. Black voices on sundays at six pm. And we're back to wrap things up. But i look at the weather and that's our show for this monday night. Please join us tomorrow night. Live at seven. And join. W w and just a few minutes at eight pm for a virtual event firsthand living in poverty. We'll continue the conversation about this. Very important issue go to w. w. dot com slash poverty event and click on the join virtual event link to access the screening and discussion. And now for all of us here at chicago tonight. i'm friedman and i'm parachutes. Thank you so much for watching. Stay healthy and safe and good night closed. Captioning is made possible by robert a clifford and clifford law offices a chicago personal injury and wrongful death. That's proud to serve its community through pro bono legal services.

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"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production available on Apple podcasts and podcasts one starlight lounge presents good evening with the progressive box move that's you go tickling the Ivories he just saved by bundling home and auto progressive A. and the Winter Soldier Wanda Vision and Hawkeye cost as much as twenty five million dollars per episode totaling five hundred million Disney is at low everyone how you doing we've got a great show for you today Hordley buying out the back end on all of their original productions similar to netflixing model this means they'll offer creatives and possibly lead cast member apparently eggers is lining up quite the cast because he's got Nicole Kidman's in talks as well as both Alexander and Bill Scars Guard on top of that we've got some really cool casting details for Robert Eggers new movie and then it's a done deal now lion king is not competing for best animated feature at the Oscars list there was debate earlier on whether it's a live action remade or if it's an animated film but now it's a non issue for the moment because Disney opted not to submit the lion king for consideration in this category next up here we've got a little something from tyco at td during an interview on Jimmy Kimmel he talked a bit of Jessica Henrik is the latest possibly board the film in an unknown but reportedly a major role and just to recap everything here that means there's more money upfront in order to secure future earnings in perpetuity we're going to discuss this quite a bit later in today's show but first a message from Ken check it out Ocean Pictures Arts and science just thirty two films submitted for consideration in the best animated feature Oscar category and Disney's the lion king is not on the on today's movie talk we are asking the question Hawkeye cost how much to make then on top of that is that casting story because Robert Eggers even though some of you out there have not seen the light has yet it's coming your way keep an eye out for it he's already working on his next DOC Korg yeah I like Coorg next up here another casting story another thing about the Matrix which we've been covering a lot lately according to deadline iron fist object though and it is GonNa be a Viking revenge saga titled the Norseman and IT Setting Iceland at the turn of the tenth century and he's got his the witch star on you Taylor joy and also the lighthouse star Willem Dafoe all in talks to join this project next up the academy about four love and thunder and confirmed that Korg is going to return here's what he said I just finished a couple drafts of that story there's more thor there's hey with Jay Washington and Nikki Novak we got so many stories to cover or we're going to highlight the mall right now in the call sheet I up on the list could be joining Neil Patrick Harris Jada Pinkett Smith Keanu Reeves Carrie Anne Moss and Yahya Abdul Mateen the second in the film finally here for the call sheet the Falcon I say Talk Star Wars we celebrate Star Wars we dig into the Star Wars News we speculate about star wars including your questions waist thorn in Thorn for Natalie Portman coming back she'll be playing a female version of thor it's from a comic run there'll be two of them my character is coming collider video channel and also available in podcast form if you like to listen to our sweet voices on Collider Jed eye counsel me Christian and a Bevy of guests join us a collider Jedi Council you're gonNA have a great time low again now we are you okay introduce these yeah I'm kidnapped suck one of the hosts of collider jed eye counsel and I'd like to invite you to listen to our show watch our show it's on every Thursdays on the get rid of that one I can't stand me now it's funny because we're GonNa get to see heard about the Disney plus Mara shows so far and what their intentions are with them does that price tag surprise you yes or no soldier Wanda vision and Hawkeye cost as much as twenty five million dollars per episode which makes Hawkeye cost them two hundred million dollars based on what we in you just can you put like a hidden camera just so I can see what goes on I would never know we'll probably need another one let's listen for you have to work at a nightclub in downtown Los Angeles I need this or cocaine one of the two and actually my nostrils too much for cocaine these marvel shows so as we broke down earlier in the show there's a report out there that says three of the shows the titles listed are the Falcon in the winter people irritated me I could just be like that I would be able to like slip right buying you wouldn't even notice somewhere that way glad I'm getting when you have a day like I gotTa have after here I got this and then I had to be in my job as a bouncer in a nightclub from three afternoon to one thirty in the morning guess what you need bird in my progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates discounts not available data situations. Yeah we're drinking right now how many espresso shots are in that thing to say this starbucks triple shot with energy the energy you can get triple threat I'm like yes he and I ask you a question if I walked in your bouncer would you Washington I gotTa talk a little bit about the behind the scenes overhead Disney plus because stuff is expensive over there especially issue with that is how do you recoup this money like you don't have a boxoffice like they always vote the box office with regular marble films so once it makes a seven hundred we were like Oh my God you got to go right now like I've gotten rid of so many people because it's like you just irk my soul I love to be able to be a bouncer just for that reason even when we bring up a net flicks where is the value in spending all of this because are you actually bring in new subscribers is that how you decide whether something is war with Jeremy Renner and so I guess that's how you bring more people in with that and again if it takes Kate Bishop Ford as the new Hawkeye and then sees where she can I understand where the streaming services are making their money because I think Disney is the exception in that these shows will feed into their box office returns right but describe so it's an investment it's also investment into the film's if you think about it because it Kinda continues the whole story I guess so I think I'm I'm ready for the time to come vis so good they need to make it cinematic quality there's a lot riding on it there's a lot of original stuff coming up with Disney plus but this is marvelous their thing that's why a lot of people are going to see His APP and his record sales that weren't ballots announcing solid money-back Jeremy why do all of these shows have to cost in a billion dollars whatever the case may be they okay we recoup some money how do you recoup amidst do the whole subscriptions thing what but also think it's incentive because they need to make winstone much spoiler content on this channel at this point that you're in the clear Mandela's you you have that story and people have wanted to see twenty five million an episode I mean maybe this movies well I just mean more so you know like we've got Hawkeye which I've come to respect talk because we were talking about before we went on air the price of these actors get for the film's so then you're doing you're doing a mini movie into a series but my six episodes eight episodes that's eight hours worth of Hawkeye so that's a Lotta Jeremy Renner total onscreen in more than he's been in all of the movies if I remember correctly it was something about hearing some of his time as Ronin that we did Nazi on top of Everything K. Bishen going forward so against hey what's happening is like it makes you think it's not just the renter salary but it actually the budget actually makes me excited it makes me think that it's Oh maybe the younger ventures west coast avengers even the regular venues you have that like you said feeding into the movies so that brings more people in again to the box office later but that number is into the cloud I can't go out tonight this is not gonna carry me through the day long days ahead wow because it's streaming and that's the way things are going they're paying everybody up front so I'm wondering like it makes me go How much was the runner getting of that two hundred million dollar budget also you have to think about because we've heard that actors Robert Downey junior who made like twenty upfront and then seventy five or whatever he was making they're paying everybody I guess the huge huge role in a couple of the can movies it's still probably doesn't amount to even the okay somebody needs to now go and and when you think about it even if he's not in all eight hours it is more than you have seen total in the entire M. C. You with me we wanted more of we didn't get much of an infinity ward in game we get the sad scene watches Scarlett Johansson spoiler alert? You Ain't seen endgame by now it's going to have that same cinematic quality and they're not cheap ing out on it it'd be really cool success well I think you will with this when you're talking about the Hawk because you're doing Kate Bishop you have all the comic book fans want to see where the story goes further so also you have Jeremy Renner good but somebody's GonNa get mad one person that's mad that came out April on world leaders Mickey Novak here window over wants to white down go how did we know we got it then you get them in civil war just a bit you get you don't get them in infinity war at all you could probably apply that statement to almost didn't have their own movie now that you think about it even when I think about let's say winter sold lose your job or a lawsuit or anything in your situation I want to know the behind the scenes of we didn't have their own individual films grant yes Falcon was made part and winter sold reports of civil war captain America's civil war going forward but Hawkeye was a minimal of all the ones that have been announced which one do you think is going to be the most beneficial to Disney and the new and for a variety of reasons whether we're talking leave about ten fifteen twenty at the most which is the exciting thing about the series if they're not going to put the resources behind making a full feature for some of these characters I'm glad we're getting this it's just the business side of my brain does not compute it's it's like there has to be there has to be a ceiling you know we're pumping you give them an endgame about maybe total ten fifteen minutes on screen if you really think about it in the grand scheme of things you Jeremy Renner oh he was then thor but nobody really remembers that nobody really remember is that then you don't get them again until age of ultra where he tells us he has a bow and Arrow we like it ager you know weekly viewing experience there was nothing else like it was really at the peak of HBO whereas when you think about Disney plus and so much money in and pumping that much product out where were you stop seeing the returns because when you think about the lineup of Disney plus series in each episode so this is twenty five and I'm sure those actors are paid well but they're not nearly paid as well as MC you actors so like that that actually kind art of the films he wasn't that much of a major issue I mean the avengers will you I really got him you're like you were hypnotized by Loki Okay arlit which and vision a different set of powers that might cost the visual effects department and different amounts that makes me question the story then where they going with the story GEICO Wanda Vision really because one division has a door wreck connection to doctor strange to show I think just general interest Loki for me all of the Disney theatrical they have they have so much so I can't quantify what one of these series would mean for that whole operation right with one division at this point and be because of the tie because of the time because those are two characters that I've always wanted to see more of I want to see my homegirl Tiana pairs in it so just image in the general sense like he's the most fascinating character to me what he's doing mess with history yeah I'm I mean I'm going to watch every single one of them but I think I'd have to okay that's good that's a good reason when you look at like I was like looking at what other shows costs like game of thrones the last season was fifteen million and you gotta figure each episode is fifteen million again all the movies like an info graphic out there somewhere that shows everybody's screen time so I think that's what it is now because he's What was happening I WanNa Star Bugs I was going to scream Nikki repair they have a return they don't have the major returns but they have a return on the less and so you have these movies that are coming out people like why do I wanna see this case in point the eternal is we've talked about that Chris Times where it is literally meant to be a jump off point to bring meetings into the it's a two hour plot device but marvel has had a formula that works that no matter what in my mind and I have to stop myself from doing this because it's apples and oranges type thing but sometimes I think like Oh you're spending two hundred million on a Hawkeye series that could be two hundred they'll steal generate at minimum four or five hundred million dollars at minimum and so it works when you keep doing that and you have that formula that works and movies that go into the larger marvel cinematic universe unlike the Netflix shows which were supposed to at first but then that changed completely thanks jeff thing like eight hundred million dollars profit on infinity war just that alone and they're investing one billion total into Disney plus so when you look at it that way and how much they're making we know you take these small subsidiaries in these streams shows that bring into the box office if your winning gamblers I mean you look at what they made they made like you've like in reinforces my question though because when it came to HBO and game of thrones that that was like the ultimate for them that was the main the opportunity for the MCI but that particular movie also had real key information that rated game yet still that didn't bring it yes he is grown throughout the year he is a man with a bow and Arrow whereas let's say one division division has more hot and which ones don't make as much money as the others and my mind immediately goes to something like ant man and the wasp which is maybe a low priority view is the different indie movies get push that out of my mind right there you're talking about the like you just said if they made eight hundred million it's hard I mean again when we look at it you can't really say one I will say like I said the wanted to visit because it goes directly into a movie we know exactly what it goes into and you need do the same levels of some of the other move you WanNa go there thor the dark world they're known in EMC you for making to our applaud devices there no for doing this and elements that I'm already excited to see fleshed out more whereas these just feel like like idea ideas so yeah and how flushed out are those ideas a streaming thing just one I still can't believe their streaming services so close now I can't wait to actually not always be theorizing about what it's going to mean and that's totally fine but if you don't like doctor strange only seen at once I would urge someone to rewatch and yes yeah yeah it does but you have all of these go so now you have some different so here's a question to to maybe throw a little wrench to the Wanda Vision Question here think about all the movies that we I think I'm more excited for Manda Laurean because it's coming so much sooner yeah it's right around the corner I've seen material from it so I know like the disclaimer I'm not a huge horror movie fan or like disturb let's call it disturbing movie man like there's certain movies that when I watched them like we hopefully we'll talk about this and so here we are so we've got we've got away you up at night is that what you're trying to avoid does it keep me up at night and it just certain places doesn't WanNa go Black Phillip lurking around the corner about bringing in Disney plus subscribers or insuring that somebody prioritizes the MCI because of the series at the bottom more than likely this is GonNa be weird for me Santa Snow here's our retaining for this this is quite got Nicole Kidman to scars guards and Taylor joy and then maybe Willem Dafoe as Infinity War Infinity Ward not even Captain Marvel anything else you took the Prophet from one movie to finance her right to me sensitive to that kind of thing so feels like a sleeps I gotta deal with but then weirdly some other ones people will say Oh don't watch it and then I watched it and I love it and it doesn't bother me I can't really you're used you know you are I would have seen the lighthouse but I just haven't had the opportunity like I haven't gotten a an invite but I'm actually going to go see that is that the new Robert eggers movie I get a lay it landed the table boy who was seen the witch and or got an can that be my pull I'll give it to you right now a two four if you want it excellent on the lighthouse eh because I watch a lot of movies that normally would not watch for here so I could be able to eventually we'll talk about these and sort of like don't watch the lighthouse that's what I'm saying is to spirit we were talking about this spirit I have to shut my eyes through half of it I'm very might be a thriller this might just scare just the we bit I also feel guilty about everything so I would never just push someone in something that might really freak them out and how much they've made since the beginning of the new I mean it it is a small amount it's actually presidential one I'm thinking from my salary that's why it's so the White House and how do you feel about them so the witch a while ago and I kinda was like if I remember too much about I remember watching it going that kind of thing no disturbs my brain to crush it just seeps into the subconscious way whether or not Unlike House the lighthouses saved uh-huh given how you feel about horror movies Robert eggers movies does this unsolvable and this core concept give you any urgency to see this movie thousand because Marvel has a bigger I don't know how are mandatory will go into the next set of the trilogy but we know what the marvel stream themselves they're going to do going for the ANC percents can't wait stars guards plays Vikings I mean you hear that and like this is the thing I'm a huge in point exactly what it is is that descent into madness madness maybe you should just cross Eggers oculus entirely up to my favorite like the the Gore horror I can do when it's just like Eerie so the witch I could only do a part of it I only saw part of being honest didn't watch the whole thing so does the key they're gonNA find out we're gonNA find out about all this soon enough because time flies and that's scary all right let's go to story number two which is like my brain and what freaks me out okay I think might not be in like if it's again the bat the madness thing I would say that the lighthouse is scarier the Oh so enters level of like disturbing compare that to mid some are compare the lighthouse compare the Lighthouse C C well it's like the Eggers all star team plus additional Aron actors that is a excellent did I think so I love it up on the tech side too yeah sixteenth century Viking just sounds like something very ten th century sorry yeah like Iceland right now their chemistry is very rare in great and they have such a trust built up and you know that it's going to be dark and you know they're going to dark places that is what I'm GonNa be interested to see look like in this shirt that is anybody more eager to see this movie I'm all about seeing likings and movies anyway that I'm afraid I'll ever find myself in this situation or even just like what happens to someone's brain when they're isolated like I don't know I don't carry it with okay it's a weird to do so other qualities that it has so I'm just curious to know if he's going to stick with something like that goes back to maybe slightly more traditional photography in the witch I want to know what he's got cooked viewing for you are you going to stumble upon a lighthouse in a similar concept contacts and the people like the madness admits Amar okay but I don't know I like neither of them really kept me up at night I wasn't really really thinking to the point highlands behind it and if there's a good story let's do it all right we really briefly given you feel about horror movies Halloween is right around the corner really be needed at this point are you more for the marvel stuff man delorean so here's what this is going to catch me I wanna see men Delorean uh-huh little lies fan and just like whether or not you like that kind of show or is fine but the two of them together skarsgard and Nicole the free Houdini bad right that was too early for this to happen to wake you up at relationship I think I'm also really interested to see how he shoots the movie just because we know there's very specific style and lighthouse the black and white thing amongst because that's the thing if I don't see very very soon as it because I don't see it like out of screening and I have the opportunity at home to turn it off I will sell if I you had some people who didn't like doctor strange one it's just what it is possible there are some people who favorite jess you don't like Dr Strain for that Gal is Hugo send him my condolences go there's listen you really need to take a chance on his own his horror you're all we know you love or fields and I love her but it's like listen this might be a suspenseful I just say to get to see Alexander skarsgard basically look like Tarzan again that's all they were the longhaired everything now it if you don't if you're not into that kind of like a safety button to stop on Yes exactly love it would it comes to preparing to talk about horror movies because she you consider essential Halloween viewing will have said this before and I'll say it again NYRA street three dream warriors I mean I'm not the connoisseur but gets lost I mean he grows up he calls on Kelly he'll he'll have a beer beer but he looked like Tarzan just nobody refined them that's a lot of similar quality is in Blair witch as as you know like the isolation factor in lighthouse and the witch but there's not the mad it's more like classic like Blair witch kind of like that kind of thing or he'll raise her to read I know you like the I would say progressive can't save you from becoming your parents but we can save you money when you bundle home and Auto Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations admonition of an animated movie and it it I don't still know if it falls into that category or not it's still sort of a little bit of a grey area but that's because that's I can pull it out I don't know the rules and I don't WanNa piss off anybody like in a union or anything like that but it isn't it just another form of that paintings or illustrations are photographed frame by frame with stop frame cinematography usually each frame differs slightly from the one preceding giving the illusion of be where it falls in line but I think when everyone here's animation we want it's one specific thing our brain thinks of if anything I think the gray area is when we're talking about every week we're GONNA try to get some very special guest interviews all of the people that helped shape these movies and TV shows you love so video podcast interviews all coming at Ya b this critically was not a success they do have a lot of movies right now that are going to require extensive Oscar pushes so I feel like subscribed thanks so much guys stay sweaty all right so after all the earlier debate we had this summer about whether or not the Lion King is an animated movie alive action I feel like that might have been you know what took the movie off that list but it's still it's still does beg the question where does that fit yes I guess we're talking about this you'll affects is like the only place it falls in line because it's not an animated movie it's a CG it'll be I don't even know and now it's a done deal it's not part of the best animated feature category when you guys saw that list and saw that lion king was not on it did it surprise you nope in the lion king didn't meet expectations to the point to warrant and Academy Award Push Lake we'RE STILL GONNA wind up with the same question in the very near future it was this ormond capture where it's the melding of digital work with a fiscal so animated films are ones in which individual drawings Jio on the Youtube as you've always loved it plus no we've got our long podcast drop in every Thursday so make sure to subscribe to the podcast 'cause it's GonNa get even more sweating on the podcast plus that is a bunch of people going I told you I told you what animated in plus I don't I'm not surprised he wants to push success movies and Israel like there's nothing about as says as animated their CG CG animated films though it's actually looked up the technically yeah yeah no we'll keep to I'm very curious no at the actual definition is because when it comes to this version of the lion king there is only one live action shot comment when frames are projected in rapid succession at twenty four frames per second well that's a very classic action of animation see the jungle book you know all different types of films that do this that the jungle book different jungle jungle books had alive actually at a lot of charity but I can't really that's what I'm saying I can't really put my what it is that will disturb me about something until it happened I need to I need to brainstorm more but I'm going to recommend you a horror movie and a I'm going to find the perfect spot the perfect type the perfect subject I love the object just it's fascinating to me that like the which answer my question if it was eligible or if it was running would you put it in would you give it a nomination for best animated no no you that we've got some cool stuff coming your way in the class video youtube channel like this hi I'm Quadra host of collateral heroes and I'm here to tell you we've got twenty minute episodes coming at you on Collado is a no no but the Blair is then weirdly like people who know my sensibilities we're like oh you're not gonna like joker joker and I ended up it's one of my favorite movies of the year awesome to see what the next one's fall I'm just waiting for this I so I understand why this isn't in the award season conversation doc because it's you can consider the same thing with lion king when they're drunk 'cause they have to draw it out a little bit different forms of different former drawing it it's the first of its kind I almost wish it was though just so we can continue having this conversation that's so people in the industry could be weighing in on it remember when I came out and uh-huh and people like it can't be live action because these are real animals if anything to me it's live action does not equal photo real achievement I think that was probably the highest frozen too I haven't seen yet that's probably going to be up there but I thought abominable was such a nice surprise you would give to abominable but what if you had a pleasure likely going to get nominations geography but there's always that you know that that outline or something that wasn't part of a big studio that winds up getting a nomination a d twenty-three presentation was I don't know it's it's not like I forgot how special frozen was but seeing them all come on stage and hearing the new song just Oh yeah that's the thing it's the first of its kind and so now when we were there doing other ones like this and so I oh I thought it was really like not even underrated I think I got you know as well received but I think it was very original really obviously toy story for I really liked in terms of there's sort of like a horror movie but that kind of knowing that that sort of darkness yeah okay yeah we're going to get back to this all right the first before he white like the original ones did and when I think about that one frozen to song that I heard they're like that's that's the new let it go people are I believe that that's where her special song that or can you feel the love tonight in the daytime I just love that Elton John so outspoken yeah and that he's saying yes because at times those lions do not look real at all well 'cause they're sounds were symbols faces just like no one decided to add a motion to that scene say you just so ever had gotten nomination if you had to pick one thing on this list to give the award to right now what would it be I really liked abominable we're talking about that earlier and I think that's part of Elton John's quotes recently where the songs from this new rendition of the lion king didn't kind of permeate pop culture Shen and usually I'm pleasantly surprised by those it's like I keep thinking of my life as Zucchini and I was so happy that I'm watching that it was great but it wouldn't have been on my radar what he really feels because we are in an age of celebrities being very careful with yes saying is about other celebrities and the fact that he's just like seventy thank you no worries I kinda liked that about Aladdin though it's not like any of those songs cracked the charts nobody was scared about we'll be singing that nonstop I was whistling it for God knows how long 'cause nobody's saying it'd be Osei songs from the Lion King Nobody remembers that Transitional Song I could moment and you so associated that song that movie they go hand in hand and this was just it didn't here in case you guys missed the quotes here's what he told British g q the original and the music and the current film didn't have the same impact the magic enjoy were lost soundtrack hasn't had nearly the same impact in the charts that it had twenty five years ago you just saying yeah but he was right in the sense that I remember seeing the Lion King and the music just like searing into me and just being such an emotional they were saying it was it was a live action animated and some people were like his live action animated everybody's like what when it's the first time we saw the trailer there was so much divide on what this is a little something different because think about how many cover songs hit it big on the checks especially when it's beyond say on top of that we hear Philly iser and seven not with not with what's on this list already and also what's on this list that I haven't seen because every year it's like we know the likely ones we know Tory story foreign frozen too when it was the best selling album of the year the new soundtrack fell out of the charts so quickly despite the massive box office success how could it if it's also not original so you could still have the structure of these animated classics and then maybe breakthrough by spicing up by by treating it more as a cover instead of just you know Rogan do Hacun Matata I enjoy it yeah it was it was goofy but it wasn't the way you know it was fun to hear but it wasn't as Pleasantville as the paid him for because he would have been paid favors James Earl Jones but he was scars that a challenge it didn't sound the same as he did me animated movie he goes to get lemonade Bam more direct sales our marketing genius I enjoy all the specific You know nitpicks you oh he said the new version of the lion king was accused disappointment to me because I believe they messed up the they messed the music up music was so much a part songs like with frozen what you're saying is what they've decided to do is they've decided to create new stomach you haven't heard before where they didn't really do that with all maybe they should have taken that opportunity to do Lanqing your favorite Disney Classic Animated How many times when I was a kid when I heard a jumped up like the giraffes okay the original cause I understand you want to have him in this but it didn't sound as powerful as he did twenty five years ago you could've taken his exact boys is right now what do you think is the most likely to actually win toy story four yeah I think I'm going frozen too are you like a lot of faith in that yeah and being in the room for the d try to be serious and MC you or bill I can't I don't think I could see him as a villain I would like to see him as somebody but I don't know if it'd be a hero either like who hang him in that direction because one of the first series that came to my mind was ant man it's like I could see him going back and forth with Paul Rudd telling stories the Aladdin assault when the Latin was known for the songs term you know that's another no one is really going for the songs in that I mean maybe that's something to rethink 'cause I there's a particular news story out there that you might notice we didn't get to today because we're going to have that conversation with Jeff Snyder tomorrow and he's got some interesting insight there but we look I have a child that I've played that for to make her sit down so yes I can tell I like all right we gotta save some time for live chat questions because a question about it so we've got to bring it up Steve Calderon is asking since Jona Hill is no longer and talks to the Batman it could be a good time for marvel to offer him uh-huh actually like that too we love will Smith Wilson will make songs so like here it I know all the lyrics was just crazy I hate that like when I know the lyrics and when I hear the song I can see the whole thing with it but we're going to like I never said that but yeah nobody's really doing yeah because again everybody knows many black comes on the original he had no matter what you do is not many people who are doing that to the songs that were original Hunan Matata when you heard the original you like her coudl Matata you just get to do all this when you were like this is fun when I think of Kuna Matata I think of you you're talking about this before like it's not like the old days of typecasting where they have to exactly look like the comic characters or whatever there's so much range now and there's so many actors that could now potentially play both these roles that I just sort of my I'm kind of excited at the prospect to be honest I was excited to hear that he was possibly in the mix weather it was for the ridler the penguins always a little disappointed to see that headline but also looking at the cast they're starting to put together right now and knowing how many great options that are out there now there's excited to see I don't really nothing jumps out except that that kind of works because thors going to be comedic and John Things that aren't comedic it's just I guess my mind is just like force you know Halloween tell the whole recap stories like you have Jonah Hill till his version of a recap too I think that would be now I'm picturing like the Zombie land to d'appel Ganger not that I don't think Jonah Hill is a good actor because I know he is it's just I'm having a really hard time picturing him in the MC for whatever reason yeah thank penguin or the riddler that was the whole question and was it that he wanted to do they wanted him for penguin and he wanted to do ridler wasn't money who knows what it was but I just think only MCA let's answer that question I but I wanna get your take on Jona hill opting out of the Batman would hero could he play because I don't WanNa see Jimmy Hill who not really I mean it was interesting to hear it was interesting to hear it I feel like it was it was very on the nose casting yes but also was he plays into the role multiple sources have told collider that hill was in talks to play the Ridler as reeves is said to have approached at least one other actor for the somewhat smaller role would you put him ass he'd have to be a character they just decided to do something somebody make up this small article that Jeff wrote he wrote it's unclear why he'll pass on the Batman after engaging with Warner Brothers for the last several months initial reports claimed that hill had asked for ten million dollars yeah I was watching it I was like how could he do this like I love John Oliver Zaza I loved him he was perfect but you know James Earl Jones L. could've just voice Zona Hill as the penguin could have sounded great but the same time like you just said what if he wanted a lot more money and they were willing to give him to add a little to that this is from the collider dot com for this other actor separate individual reached out to say we had it backwards that reeves wanted to castel as the penguin but hill wanted to play the ridler who is said to be the primary all of the penguin shortly after posting we were told that the role was a sticking point in the negotiations as hill had hoped to play the penguin when things didn't work out in a lab and you do some get shaky with it none none none none none none none the noggins chorus the villain but you're not do that the movie is about bringing it back do we know how much like memo's got for command do we know approximately how much the pads and for the bat for the role of Bruce Wayne Batman and so it was always everyone that if you strain testing you don't get it you more than likely become the opposite of that so Nicholas holds the ridler outside the actual job of performing in the movie that come with it so I can maybe understand why someone would push to get more on 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Ed Dwight on Becoming the First Black Astronaut That Almost Was

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

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Ed Dwight on Becoming the First Black Astronaut That Almost Was

"Everybody welcome back. This is larry warn you listening to black on the air our end of the year. Show you guys this. Is it twenty twenty for black on the is. Oh ho si It's the day after. Christmas opie guys had a nice christmas and are having a nice holiday season in comparison to the year that we've had or let's say i hope you're having a quiet one at belize but no seriously. I hope you're having a good one Doing all you can be in safe out there and spending time with family and all that kind of stuff. Hope it's going well. I thought i didn't the end the year with cannabis. I call it a kind of a special episode So when i get really wanted to be an astronaut. And i found this story about a man who was supposed to be the first bike astronaut in the sixties. His name is ed edward and a half months show today in. We talked actually last week. We this is the longest that i've had. I just couldn't get enough of talkative w such an interesting guy. So that's coming up really special but the other part of the special year end is i'm having back in the pot. My daughter lauren. Laura were hey. Lauren hi everybody and For those of you that listen to the by regularly you know Both lauren and i other learn of stickler loves languages. She steadies languages and she studies about language to you know and we talk about language all the time ever since he was little her brother's like that too we we all like talking about language. We're just estimated with english being one of the most fascinating languages and Lords like a. Okay what what's what's a real fascinating language. There are so many though. But i would say. The language that has tones is pretty fascinating as like chinese like mandarin chinese. Yeah yeah Learn spent some time. China and we talked about chinese I'm still sucking negga nagai. So i don't know about that. I'll pass right now But today we thought in the spirit of the holiday season lowering sky. We're gonna. I'm going to have discussion and learn. She's berlin riser. Now about a very famous. Christmas carol and the lyrics to it and it's interesting that these lyrics were changed. Let's talk about that right now. Lauren takeaway yes. I'm sure. many of you are familiar with the christmas. Carol have yourself a merry little christmas I feel like the lyrics that we hear the most often are the revised version. Which was actually. I sung by frank sinatra. Well let's talk about the original. I mean yeah dinner enough but the original was sung by judy garland. Yes in the musical. Meet me in st. Louis meet me in st. Louis louis need me insanity we could see lord that in that Meet me in st. louis. Judy garland and a the original song was meant to be. Kinda sad. is kind of looking back right exactly. It's as the point in the show when everyone's really sad and they're like you know what everything sucks but let's have a merry christmas now. Okay and then so that had some lyrics and then it was changed to be what was changed to just be a bit more joyful so it could just be a more neutral happy. Christmas song and i was actually frank sinatra. That asked for them to change the way. Yeah so he was the first one to I believe he was the first one to record this new revised version and now. That's what everyone records. That's what blais recorded. Yeah m m most of the time when you hear the song now you hear the change version right exactly. Yeah okay. So let's go through the lyrics Do you wanna go through the old lert spurs. And then. We'll go through. The new succumb doing side-by-side goforth yaron. You take it away okay. Great great so we have the first stanza. This part is the same. Have yourself mary little christmas. Let your heart be light in the revised version in the revised version. We have from now on. Our troubles will be out of sight whereas the original lyrics are next year our troubles will be out of sight so the revised version is. Everything's good now and it will continue to be good whereas the original is. It's kind of bad now but you know what next year next year. Okay so the do that again. So so how does it sound now. Now it's from now on. Okay do the first burdensome have yourself a merry little christmas let your heart be light from now on. Our troubles will be out of sight. Okay got it. That's how it is. Now yes okay and then in. It's the same with the next stance. It's the same shift between the two sets of lyrics. Have yourself a merry little christmas. Make the yuletide gay from now on. Our troubles will be miles away that kind of implies that they're currently miles away as well and that from now on they will continue to be miles away as opposed to next year. All our troubles will be miles away. That has the subtexts that currently this year are trouble are not miles away. They are right here with us so in the original instead of from now and it says next year exactly in both the first and second stanza. Okay i'm gonna ask you to do a big favor. Can you just sing the first part of that both ways do it the original wing and then do the second wing. Would you knew that. Okay so we have have your cell phone. Merry little christmas let your heart be original next you. All our troubles will be out of verses also the second stanza for the revised version yourself a merry little christmas make the yuletide gay revised version from now on our troubles will be miles. So that is the different. The sa- the from now on is more comforting. But the next year. I will be the one. Where would you use to describe that next year puts everything in the future from now on literally has the word now in it. It makes more about the present and the continued future. But the i want to get to the bridge and the final stanza. 'cause that's where the real shift happens and that's where you really feel the poignancy of the original lyrics. Let me ask you this before we get to that. Do you know why was change. I looked it up. I believe frank sinatra just wanted more joyful lyrics a lot of these pop standards that are jazz standards were written for musicals and made sense in the context of these shows and then when they were taken out of the shows sometimes the lyric stayed the same because they could still just be song on their own and sometimes they shifted just tiny bit so that they could be sung in any jobs context outside of the theater so this is a situation where although ella fitzgerald recorded the judy garland original lyrics so that's interesting. Going ella okay. But i wanna get the bridge because this is where. It's really interesting. So the i'm gonna start with the revised that because that's what people are more familiar. We have here. We are as in olden days. Happy golden days of your period. That's a statement faithful friends who are dear to us. Gather near to us once more period who can sounds pretty straightforward. Notice the present tense. It's just taking in the scene here. We are this is lovely. All our friends are here. The original lyrics once again as in olden days happy golden days of your comma faithful friends who are dear to us will be near to us once more period. That is a full statement in the bridge. It's not two separate statements describing the scene. It saying here's what's going to happen next year once again just like it used to be. All of our friends will be near to us once more because they're not with us right now so it's all it's like. The difference chain a period and comma change is the meaning of the stands as well as the words. So it's kind of a run on sentence once again as an old days. Happy golden days of your comments because the census is still going faithful. Friends were due to us will be near to us once more right so it's trying to finish. It's thought and then the other one here ers in Is it is an older as happy. Golden days of your period. That's a period. It's like that's a statement right. that's all it is and then the final stanza is what like is really emotional of okay before you get to that. Can you sing these stoop. I sure so. The the revised lyrics are in alden day. Happy golden days of faithful friends. Who are dear to us. Gather near to us one small war versus once again as in olden days. Happy golden days of your faithful friends who are dear to us will be near to us. One more that that actually gave me goosebumps listening to the second different and it hits different in twenty twenty okay when we haven't even gotten to that parallel. Yeah it really is a song for twenty twenty in many ways that this has been a year and The song is saying just wait. Just wait everything's gonna be okay as opposed to kind of great. Everything's great now. Wow yeah but no you really feel an immense dancing. And i like the way you phrased it. The original is just wait. Everything's gonna be okay. The revised is everything's great. Merry christmas and those are two different songs. Their two lovely songs supervision is a fantastic revision. Because you can't tell that it's changed. The rhythm fits everything fits. It's great revision. it's just a completely different song and you can really really see it in the final stanza. So okay let's go for so we have in the revision through the years. We all will be together if the fates allow. This is the only moment of doubt in the whole revision. they kept in if the fates allow So even though it's like we will all together. Well okay fine. If the fates allow. That's the only hesitation. Play your kurds. If you play girl one hundred percent we're ninety four percents sure about this and then the famous line hang a shining star upon the highest bow which is completely different will come back to that and then the conjunction and have yourself a merry little christmas. Now okay now. What does that mean. Hang a shining star upon the highest about. What do they mean by that. They're just talking about decorating a christmas tree. Put a star up at the top of the christmas tree. They're literally just they. Just throw that in for it to rhyme with now and it's okay decorating tree. Okay let's go to the whereas the original. Instead of through the years we have some day. Soon we all will be together if the fates allow noticed that that moment of doubt in if the fates allow hits different when there was doubt at the beginning someday soon as well see your book ending that phrase without someday soon hopefully we will be together but if the fates allow they may not allow it. Yeah the first one through the years all together if the fates allow almost sounds like you know if you're not busy during that time more of a throwaway line whereas the first one really shows how much it's up to fate and how much we cannot control if we will be together someday soon which again is hitting in the pandemic. When will we be able to gather with our loved ones again. It's a lot more doubt in the first one. It's like this may not work out the town. It's all about doubt you guys okay and then finally instead of or second penultimate instead of hang shining star upon the highest bough. We have until then. We'll have to muddle through somehow. Isn't that a crazy. It's a completely different line. You have were decorating christmas. Tree versus everything sucks. But you know what we're just to have to get through it. And then here's here's a really interesting difference in one word so we had hang a shining star upon the highest bough and have yourself blah blah blah blah in the original. Until then. we'll have to muddle through somehow so have yourself a merry little christmas now. And what's so interesting about that one conjunction that's different is. The revision is kind of just two different cute things. Let's decorate the christmas tree and merry christmas kind of back and forth right. Let's hang met by the way. Merry christmas whereas the until then. We'll have to muddle through somehow. So therefore and this is the thesis of the song. Have yourself a merry little christmas keyword now because we honestly this song is about hoping for next year but we don't even know if next year is going to be great so all you have right now is what's in your control and what is in. Your control is to have yourself a merry little christmas now. It is fascinating to me. How in the original every word is important. There are no unimportant words. In fact the power of the word now at the end of that is so important. It's irrelevant in the other. One you could ended on halves of my lucas with now is just who cares. Added now too. But now is so important in that in the original right absolutely absolutely and i would say the rhyme from fates allow muddle through somehow. Merry little christmas now. Just all three of those fee medically everything is up to fate except for what is in your control and so the the fact that the rhyme carries through that theme as well as just really really nice in the original okay. So here's what. I'm going to learn because you've been so nice about this a rather than seeing these two if you could sing. Just the original. Judy garland the whole song force. And that'll be a nice way to end it. Okay have your cell phone. Merry little christmas let your heart be next year old trouble. Those we'll be out of Have your cell phone. Maybe little chris months make the yuletide good next year all lose. We'll be you once. Happy golden days of yawn. Your faithful friends. Who are dear to us will be near to swoon small. Someday soon we all will be together If the fate so allow onto then well model who saw Little cruise ma. No oh those so beautiful. Thank you so much loren loren he alani will lowering your turn it up and tiktok right now. Everybody your address or oh my god plugging my tiktok. All right folks. If you like avatar the last heir vendor in hamilton at lawrence jonny l. a. u. r. e. n. h. I l. a. And i thank you learn. I'll be right back. With f anything else happy kwanzaa. Everybody say she keeps a hundred right at the less. Okay thank you learn. Love you mix okay back. We'll be right back with their way. All right welcome back Guys we got kind of a co this kind of a christmas tree for right now kind for myself. I was you. Here's what you have done. I told you this before really. I wanted to be an astronaut and advocate. And i as i was saying before i consider by generation. Kind of the moonshot rich. It's what i wanted to do. And i thought i knew everything about space and recently i saw story. I didn't know i was so i was almost kind of a shame us for not knowing the story the story of a black astronaut who a man who is to be the first black astronaut and it didn't happen and worse than that. I felt my history. Didn't give it soup of history. Finally given its do there's a special on the smithsonian channel early this year and of course. He wrote a book himself starring at the wings of dream he was the former air force pilot and the first african america to be in the air force training program to go into nasa. Ed dwight welcome to black on the air. It we'll thank you thank you. I really appreciate it thank you. It is an honor to have you on here sir. I really appreciate This i'm saying sir. Knowing of your history in the air force. I'm trying to be. Yeah right your story really movie. I was watching. You know. i've been a space junkie. You know for so long. You know i was really. I was young kid during the moon landing. I remember my heart. Being outside of my house. Followed that it was something i saw that and wanted to be part of that and everything but it's interesting at the time i thought it wasn't available for for blacks. They know yesterday during that time. And it's six. I wish i had known. I was too young to have known your story was happening. And when i look back it feels like it was almost kind of a race right after it happened which is kind of interesting so at that. Let's talk to add himself and get this This full story. And i know it Well let's start from the beginning from kansas. City's that reform yes. Yeah yeah can't say the on the kansas side now. Yes a difference exactly on the campus kansas city. Kansas said oh what what year were you born. Nineteen thirty three nineteen thirty three. What was it like growing up in kansas city. Kansas during that time especially young kids will what was it like for you remember the world around you back then again yes. I was kind of a precocious kid than the and we lived on a farm outside of town. Yeah it was really really exciting. My dad's family will dalton georgia M i'd at that time i was born. He was standing in the negro national league baseball. Wow and so he play for the kansas city. Monarchs and it's like the you know arguably the most legendary really fascinating. Because i said on sexual pages lap wow in the dugout in inequality bad boy for for for them women. Jackie robinson was playing second base for the was twenty. Two in a but When my i had really really rich of life because live on a farm of los outta town that didn't get there. I didn't get that city stuff You know we. We grew everything all own old farmland gilo hog than the chickens. I really look to have the kind of mom that i had because with dad being gone almost around see because they played in the summer leagues but also played in the winter leagues on the caribbean link. They were paying cuba back. Then you'll yeah. Yeah and and so. In the beginning. I never saw him which a never saw. My dad was my mom. But my mom. I was so tiny. It was really really audio. I'm already five with four now sister. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I'll around women women at four sisters that straight s guy. You're the your weight. Where were you in this. The oldest the youngest in the middle. Second the oldest. Okay so you weren't. You weren't baby where they were like thirty like that. And and some mom got worried because i was so tiny that i'd better developed than state between these guys years you know and so she started going to school to god labra parameters four. But the thing. I've got from her walks to the airport. And i was the traffic we butted up against the fedex airport pretty much just by the maybe in fifty minute walter to the airport and and all the way there. It's tell me. I'm older sister on this time about all the floor on all the new Poison ivy versus other shows all of these stains and then she would admit talk about orbital mechanics earlier on. Wow a yeah. She was a law. I said we're talking to the orbit of the moon and the an howarth orbited design. And all but she just into astronomy or was she do no a robber. Gas to the extent lay ron. I'm at the time. I just took for granted Fabrics airport had a sixty foot long fish palm alone the summertime the expected with all these different fish she would identify Facing that water. And i'll take it off for brand time that she of but But she kinda widened dot perspective about what life is all about them with nature was all about and and and and how you know the moon orbited than the all of this stuff you know. I starting at school. At two years old. I had his propensity for art announced. Drawing in the end saw became the the class orders. Kindergarten class artist an elementary school and after school artists. When i got the high school and now and what's your debt like well. He's not going to be the the next pitcher for the money because that's show but he was just point he was really really this loud. And you're the only boy my promise is gonna follow me the whole oh man and and so mound a kind of doted is she kinda doted on me in. She told me had. I did all the all the shopping on the house. He told her babies in the dole is stopped help. Slaughter the hogs. Might we have chicken every seventy ticket and every study thing and you can snag such a world back that i had this fascinating responsibility in only art thing as adema first off painting when i was eight years old She got me elaborate corps. When i was four and the library airport where my to hang out since i was gone i get used to whip because when dad got home when he when he was going all day and i got a b. You were you were you all day you know. And that was in the lab. And since i wanted to do this art thing. I read all about renaissance art an open and job. When i was fourteen and i was fourteen from from a income fewer late renaissance man before it was even a term. Yeah but i took it all the edges. Soak it all in. My grandfather was a junk man. And i got propensity for work with metal Horse and mule than we go all over town with this You jump off of the thing when he spied something that was that he wanted to rebuild and we take it back in An and tommy all the rudiments of metalwork and so you have both a mechanical sense. And in artistic since you didn't know that those which is really kind of unusual to have both of those that right side left side of the. Yeah yeah exactly. And but i was constantly making things right all the kids in the area there. We live kind of out away. A little bit but Everybody would get their skates and then shot a period of time. Maybe a month after they throw them away because they don't they would just doing lock. Yeah and police gates that would take part in the front part on tube before ford scooters out of right right right and so and so they would run around skirt but they do. These schools all year long where they would. They wouldn't scape so that was making all these things making cars. That orange crates in this blur were you in an exclusively segregated world at that time or did you have any white friends was the any in your area was with. Was there the start of any of that. Or was it exclusively sacramento. We didn't move downtown until i was twelve and so my world was my dad spam who lives across the street you know and a lot of conflict between my mom because my dad met mom on the road a playing baseball. She was highly educated and but she was fascinated with this like ballplayer. You know and her ancestors are from austria and they all white. They're oral passing for widens and sioux city iowa. So she comes down and all of a sudden she's inundated with his black families. I can hear the i know. Exactly what's going to a lot of chatter going on about bed. in my dad's browser derelict's. Yeah except one. A the youngest one was not. He grew up to be okay but but all the rest of them were daily In the and one of 'em daddy. Twenty overdose of of the speed bowling arcade here when the and all that kind of stuff and so that was a lot of conflict between my my mom saying stay away from because they lived across a delay in the street there and there was all living in one house in the kids all limited to single house. And my mom don't go over there will not. I couldn't wait over there all the conflict. They would send messages because they thought my mom was was a white witch. That was that was here. A is missing their lives. But it's interesting that front beginning. You had kind of these two things going on in your life this love for education and learning and like the science and that and then y'all set your dad's side was kind of about fame you know and being out in front of the public and it's interesting that you're like on those two in those two ways later on while was really ironic to me about. It was because my dad wasn't a very warm and you know because he he was the oldest of the family his baseball he dropped out of school and go play baseball. And so all. The money that came in there could not work. That was his way of taking care. Devas during the depression. And all those time sues totally totally right. You had to make some money. The the conflict i was having on inside is on sunday baseball games at blue stadium and he would take me to these games. You know and without being the c twenty thousand people screaming and hollering. And how when when when the guys get up to bat you know. An each one of these people had their own idol. You know has epilepsy. Don't realize what you're talking about. Two like joe. Louis had that with with black people back then was the ability to have heroes. You know like blacks. We weren't allowed to have heroes and when we got a chance to have heroes. They were sports heroes. At first right yeah. It was huge the release of emotion you to be able to be around other people and it just be able to yell for your guy. That was a huge thing back. Then right oh let me think. And i was decimated with that whole idea. Yeah of why. These people did how these people did this. And here i was able to look on the inside of one of those guys fat. A as a result of that. I i got this this this admixture of getting glory. Yes a then. They were on. It came to me in a different way. I was so small. We were catholics. And the yeah. Kevin went to catholic schools and school. I had a wealthy school and get my head. Go back home and women. Dad was there because you had to wear a uniform. I bet to right. Yeah and so. They'd make fun of you wearing the uniform. Well i think they got also small row and they were among those kathy. We gotta kill the catholics catholic survey the catholic go come get us and so a so as a result of that i saw actually sought by the ring and a price for it for years. Wow during high school so interesting. Yeah i Were you good at it. I lost my first fight and in a number lost another one. Okay so they do. Pretty good goes champion in nineteen fifty one. Wow golden globes champ him yeah yeah and And so i had to get dispensation because of playing football and running track in high school. Tiny athlete football but i a play halfback on football team so i had to get dispensation from the local school system due to sports due to sports in kansas city. and so thirty started actually the rings so now i'm beginning to get a. We had a black paper at when i was nine. Mom told me you know. Even senator on your but long enough to bring money in here. So how she was nine getting around. Yeah yeah and so. She gave me to paper routes alone. Black paper. can't see the call right paper to can't canines them. And so i'm boxing. And a getting my name in the paper. Every friday for boxing feats and then i got into high school and played a bomb decided that when we moved downtown we want one black from the only black high school in the state of kid who and so and so when we went downtown dad opened the restaurant so now we got his russian one block from some high school world. The kids gather. And because i was doing soda jerky and don't like and stuff in an interesting question. I wanna give people a sense also when you talked about the one. Black newspaper fed the circus. Some of this is a history lesson for a lot of people to there is a network of black newspapers around the country where black people got the news about black community chicago defender sentinel here los angeles ahead And it was this network and it was. It was something to i mean. Look if you got your name the white newspaper you got probably killed somebody if you did something. Good your neighbors of the bag news. Exactly 'cause they can have positive stories in there wasn't just you know been negative big to get into there so it was something to to be in the have an awareness of black and of course. You're impressed all your friends. You know at all that stuff with that did with oblige newspaper. It hooked me into the whole black community in in the sector that within because i was as the publication were mostly in kansas city missouri. And so we'd have the swap application. Can't the the candidates. And i probably add a maybe forty fifty customers. You know physical paper and all that stuff and so anyway In one thousand nine hundred forty Salmon mom started project in nineteen forty. Three where us. She didn't one a single to to the black high school because she wanted us to go to the catholic church catholic school that obviously white so mom started in nineteen forty three rioting school. Let's say you know. I got two kids in catholic. I want them to have a catholic education and they said no and so she kept writing and so she wrote the only see in cincinnati to see if they can do something about it they said no so local problem so my mom or the battleship and enforced is school to integrate the among broke vatican. Yeah and the vatican had to integrate. That's i guess grazing. Here's another hidden story. I mean god. Bless your mom because as you say. I'm so happy that we're talking about this. You know of course culture segregated thin and you had to accept whatever the accommodations were at that public school. Some were better than others. Not all blacks goes just because we're black. Were bad by the way there are many good teachers. Some rescue was a was a top rated icing. Xactly the the fact that it was separated meaning it was bad you know and there were many great black teachers and administrators. That worked glanced. Yes that that loved. Education love learnings. I disavow people that these must have been horrible schools where that's not the case. It was more about the justice of being able to be in whatever school you went into more than anything else saying that correctly and but having said that of course there were places where that wasn't the case you know. Resources weren't as good in catholic. This is interesting to me. Because i'm catholic. My father went to catholic. Collagen went to catholic high school in the fifties but The catholic school. There are many blacks that that was their private school. They were able to go to catholic school as their private school. You have the d. C. area has led catholics in that area and they're many different areas where catholicism kinda was the gateway to blacks getting into private education right but i find it fascinating because the school had our enrollment of eight hundred fifty. Just the idea of coming out their their population of five fifty three hundred about You know and and of course whatever word about the bishop ford. High school was a lot of feeder schools because tons of catholics in kansas city kansas because the ethnicity of people came over from europe and so the and so they were in bishop. Ford high school was who was a feeder amid a mini school. Were feeders for board. Is school there. Because they're gonna lose all the soons a arizona. I wrote my sister was honorable. I was running track in and putting bishop haskell on the map around football because i was trying to zam vision is going to be like my dad and some kind of way s Athletic stuff to share a well football and maybe football team and start running down the aisle setting them on this little black kiro. I'm not one of the now all of a sudden in national honor society and and all these saying they don't spend with on society You know and so. All of all of the culminated into. I'm still boxing. Ring so gabriel's cover me in the white papers covering me from roma third ball Feats in something i guess. So i i kinda rich High school so much yes so much life that happened to you before which is interesting but you decide to go into the air force a couple of years later. What made you want to go into the air force landing light. You make that decision in wogs. The call paper the black newspaper. This is bizarre. What had happened. Mom got me this elaborate gorgona sore and i was in always the white library or the black library. Oh okay you bring that up. A mom looked like she was white right. And so we went into the lab Avenue and she wanted to get lab record and the woman said no. We can't do lab work elaborate course a colors and so the looked at my mom and ask my mom what he knows. That little brown belt are you. You know he's by son you know. Is we just can't we. Don't give labra courses to colored sierra so but there is a library over northeast junior high school. They have a library. So while now marched over the northeast junior high school and get elaborate court and they said no because he's so small books is no he will not terribly books so he knows how to read that and so she alabam dolan mama leading here without elaborate or and so i walked away from labrador became one of their best customers in the library or the airport in nineteen forty. One i was. I was i was eight years old. A war started and all of the sudden. They turned this airport. That i was going to every day working with mechanics and fix it airplanes and it actually give me money for cleaning out airplanes for their for their hunting trips in so i was getting out getting money of that. And they had placed in his library. Seven manuals cheney manuals army air corps training manuals so. My interest in airplanes can the peak anxious in these books. I just took them all star reading everything about flying aeronautics lift on rag rip weather everything imagine and at the end of every chapter. That was a test and i just kept taking these tests over and over again. I've been doing this all from the time. I was eight or nine years all you were training yourself to be in that air force environment. I i was fascinated with it. But i'm saying oh wittingly you're redoing that you didn't even realize that idea that they would like flare minds of nine northbound says airman. That's right. I just didn't have the foggiest notion said i ever airplane okay. Write a paper will paper out on those. I'd daddy talked me out of being an artist a so now. I'm in engineering in engineering school. Okay i pick them. Paper on a above. The fall was a black pilot from kansas city. Missouri standing on the wing of benifit. discussed shutdown in korea. Yeah and i says oh my god oh i just couldn't believe so. It's a went down to recruiting office. Just get to apply for pondicherry. Yeah kicked me out these pros low you stutter to short and so i wrote the pentagon lake. My mother wrote the bagging a his team out to my college. Where i was going to school and i was the first one in lyon naturally and they said thirty three of us to denver and we come out here to take the test pilot written down to tickets exam two and a half hour exam at each test that they gave us was the same test at the end of the chapter. S studying for you for years. Finished in about twenty minutes and i went up here and again. It's too tough for you. I said no. I think i might have missed one or two. I'm not sure uh-huh and what to a guy caused my mom because my school and said we have a genius did genius. That's great yet all is prepared. So then you you get into the air force. And what's the air force like in your air force training. Where were you the only black at that time were there other blacks in. They're in a what i did. I didn't know anything about the military You know just all the war drink. It was right at the end of the korean war when you when you did this right now. i'm so. yeah the enetering. yeah. I didn't know anything about the military. Sure then what it meant. I didn't know about structure discipline. And i rang bottle being orders and i didn't know i didn't want anything. So so the gave me a training class. The started like in december and so i decided that some mania ought to join the airforce boot camp and go to boot camp on though some thing about what does military is like. By the time. I get into politics so in august. I volunteer to go in as an airman. Just as a regular to be a pfc or m birther class or whatever they call those jarring center an and i joined up and and i was the only one in my class that had any college at all. It was thirty seven in this in this deal. And i was doing when they had had any had any college and all my records are shown. When i got in the that i i was appre pilot. I was going to be up to going to be a pilot. And so this guy. Calls me in the sergeant sergeant. David he calls me and says you know you the most educated get. I've gotten this whole way but any worse you're really sharp. Saw you i would normally make the flight of this whole flight. You black short and it will follow these crazy love that the short thing keeps coming up too tall are you or or by four by four. Okay you could start by four. Put you at a great. That's so interesting it's not just black. You're too short to me. It's like the polio. Christ right so. What i'm gonna do is i'm gonna get a tall white borders is not. He's not going to be of your. Yeah but you'll be his number two guy. Would you election run the deal when you run it through him. Then that's what we did. Forget steve last name but he came buddy so we had to run around together. Yeah and tears out. That i was the only one in flight that that can worse. Hundred and twenty cents minute. Yeah so now they said so what you gotta be. You're going to be the number a number two flight leader in and you're gonna either be the right guy flight so as a matter of fact we won a competition there well there and did you have a pretty good career up for a while as a in the air force did you enjoy mainly because the because most of the enlisted ranks. Hardly any you know a cottage kids in the white skin. Ocs thank you know. And so where. I wasn't the burger beginning. I i was. I was head and shoulders. Above these These kids that. I was around them and everything and i i left home and i didn't look back. I mean when we got on these kids a crandall on my wins the city. Mommy and experience. Yeah but but i off to training. And that i was i was a flight leader guys officer all through. Yeah and then you became a test pilot. That was a lot of fascinating things prior to that time. You know the flight instructor my first assignment. When i was a flight instructor and i was always trying to do things a saw. I will look for holes in things. Give what i mean with that We were training a polish from iraq. Iran india All the nordic countries. Of course italy and an enabler always assigned. We have three students per class. Enabled all sammy. These guys high countries and just watch and these white guy white instructs washington. These brown kids does left. And right now. I would happen. Joseph us wrong here as well. He's brown dark skinned guy. Black was in them while he's dark skin a get washed out a As a once you give them to me. What are you listening out of your lane of this new your business as well. I just feel something's going wrong. That these these brown kids going wrong as just a chance. And so he's locate so so i. They gave me all iraq iran. All the skin. And i'll start graduate these kids. Wow and you know and it had the committee. It was only communication skills fly. But but we'll what would happen if these white guys would really really impatient with them. You know turn left and right through the and the and the kid get it on the first on the first yeah and And so i. I saw what was happening. It was totally totally communication and so i started graduate. He's can't you know. And and so but those are the kind of thing so everywhere. I went Aleph there and went to japan. Short thing comes up because the japan it right in what would happen over. There is a unity assigned. When i got there they had dead kill seven pilots within the last couple of years planning is calling so they came to the conclusion. That an all these guys are under five eight. Are you talking about accidents. Is that what you mean. Yes and all these guys were that got killed under five eight. So i'm five forward. I go walk in a factual in half of the walked in there. They can't fly. Because you're under five eight as wait. What are you talking about. What airplane where the rudder pedals. if you're short. The rotor pills come together rather than than a privilege coming straight back so you can reach him. We have the nava in the middle and then came together. And the costa that came to go the least leverage that you have if an engine plane and they start losing control because they couldn't manage it it goes so they're not gonna give you a booster seat in can have a booster seat and i cared most of my career as a joke but i made me the aid the camp to the general debates because and so now i'm dealing with the head of the whole deal and amazon made the count with. I'm seeing him every day. And i'm watching and i'm looking at life. Total leadership position. I'm looking at command. Position of the to the commander of the bates and i get beat known him as an i wanna mission. I want to fly. And he got tired of me nagging him so he gave me. It gave me a crew and gave me the other brother on the base. Tom blanchette for it. So i'm bipolar. Thomas yeah he was navigating and so in the navigators don't have any control. Young airplane with isn't in the backseat everyday. Tom is going to play it and he naming semantics you kill me today a j. Yeah that's great. My my father in law was a navigating air force in the really's yeah Al jones staying calm. I wouldn't one bombing competition and that that'll tell you some. Yeah you're not kidding. This episode of blair walmart's brought to you by squarespace from websites and online stores to marketing tools. An analytics scratch space is the other platform to build a beautiful online presence on your business. Utilize their powerful blogging tools to tell your story share your updates and posts photos and videos on the road. You can also growing engage your audience with squarespace. Email campaigns create powerful email content that matches your website with your existing products blog posts and logo so your messaging is consistent and effective squarespace. Is there to help you get started with twenty four seven award. Winning customer support head to squarespace dot com slash larry for free trial. And when you're ready to launch. Use the code larry to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain okay. So let's let's get into your astronaut training years. So how did that come about. How did you first let me set the scene for so. We're in the late. First of all the late fifties the russians launched sputnik and it becomes this worldwide global sensation. Were suddenly in the space race. The united states realizes that. Hey we gotta do something about this. We can't let the russians get ahead and this the the race into space happens. The was that the original seven the mercury seven astronauts chosen people like john. Glenn gould's christening those guys and they become instant national heroes. You know button. Were definitely behind the russians in our space effort at the same time on the earth we civil rights movement which is bubbling up. And there's a lot of pressure in kennedy at this time to communicate with people like being and some of the leaders. You know endemic in his party at that. Time was very divided with your dixiecrats democrats. You know and aggressive cited said. I'm there's lots of changes going on in the country that time. A lot of people for the first time coming to terms with with black people in society and not just dealing with them in a segregated world. So that's that's that's the setting the table for where we are we've already had the first group of astronauts now. There's there's more astronaut training that's going to happen and it was kennedy. I think who wanted to have a black astronaut as part of that group is that correct. Well didn't quite work like that. You know put it really handsome Kitted needed like only one hundred thousand both. Yeah and and where the story goes a He didn't know dot came. Desert freight about king by the way and he didn't know any of the black lucid rather roy wilkins none of these people that what in a game. And so what he did and this story goals and i was told this he called harry. Belafonte up it was. It was scott supposedly the only black. I new probably not true but And ask him. He deliver the black boat because he needed to be vixen. This was in nineteen sixty sixty one. We move to sixty one sixty so. He's thinking about his re-election. You're talking about noticing sixty iran against nixon yet just to go back. Yes thousand nine hundred sixty when he ran against nixon bright suppose legal horrible lafontine asking he deliver help him deliver the black vote so And so it was. So i can't do that but i get with. People can do that. And so they'd supposedly had a meeting With roy wilkins. Rand off of keying and young and the former august of yet was the other guy And so they all got up ticket sales. And that's what we want and each way had the federal deal going and whitney last in the open by saying you know You know we haven't trouble getting our kids. The white college. We've been done some studies and if a black kid had an a. Average any apply. The mit purdue is schools that make astronauts a. They would not agree to a seat. So thanksgiving ever get in so he came up with this idea that we don't need why colleges with him. We got four military academies. And you let me fill these military academy up with these black smart kids. And the cottages can't turn down for the graduate degrees and the question was how did he do this. And so whitney says make me a blog astronauts to me and of course don kings. This said against that. I mean no win no so you don king was against the idea of a blackout. Oh yeah you kidding says what good is it do have some black gown wheaties box people. Will we got people that can eat in. Restaurants came to this and can't do that the indiscriminate. We don't want any flexi rules like that. Now being time for that we might have to deal with the masses in so because if we do that with what would they say to us. Oh you would you an astronaut. Get away from us with all this. Or what do you mean you gotta. Yeah and so and so. The meeting was over For for almost a year Whitney was calling the whitehouse interfacing with these guys. At what have we promise. You made me to make me a black astronaut. What happened And so so now's nineteen sixty one right. You know a year later I get this letter in the mail. The women fourth nineteen sixty. One asking me if i wanted to be an astronaut The giant toke man. I was stationed at either dream. Job save North cisco. I was flying airplanes captain early. Oh wow you're on your way to general. Oh man i. I was smoking and i was working the wing staff. And i'm i'm doing the generals for reaching but by the way history would be made by you becoming a general also a hello and was promised someway you if i stayed there. You're going to be a general and he's a senior officer. Fighting services is somebody told me once. Find something new bus doesn't like to do or doesn't have time to do. It will do it for at up. That's all right. I love that. I love these military roles. That's great you always gotta be. You gotta suck up to your bus. But you can't do it. We're looks like you're sucking up to your bus theater. And so you think the boss would be upset about. You're doing these saying but turned out to the buses are not upset loss. Doesn't wanna do about one net with my. That was my master. these guys are fighting remained. He said you also fight ego related to be their aides and stuff man and i get this letter and i thought joke of course. I went to my commanders and at the stadium option as we think about this is white. They're going to make mincemeat out of utah. Man don't do. Those guys are on different services. We are yeah totally fraternal going to break the code and i go let you in the club so stay away. You're going to be a general if few stay here. I don't go anywhere. Okay in my mama guide involved. She another lighter. Issue is mr kennedy got stuck. You know what what what happened was is me about all the needs of the black community you know how could help with the black community help rise above and i could all these wonderful things as role models all this stuff and we totally get there. I was named this. I i was in to everything military flan all these different airplanes. You know known. Cows basis flan five airplanes. You know and it was just a dream job that was. I was driving into a cow. Berkeley working on my master's in nuclear engineering. Wow this is and this is one thousand nine hundred sixty one. You have this life and it's like it doesn't get better than ms and then this letter absolutely phenomenal. Yeah you know and it was. It was a dream job and a dream. Place i go to san francisco to it was just hanging out of on cal. Berkeley campus doctor. Actually not see by the way he was my buzzer. And you know. And so. I had this going on man how i know in playing later. Mum did your mom sway you. Did you change your mind done it. Yes it's interesting. How your mom had a different view. I it was interesting to hear you talk about. 'cause his was more pragmatic because he's in the movement. But your mom has a different view. Because she's not she's not doing a kingston she's thinking about from a more of a global perspective of how it just means to the north to the average person and trying to get legislation in both sides. Have a point you know. It's funny because i kind following your mom's side where the inspiration that happens out of that. You can't buy that you know hello. It's the obama president type of thing. You know when you're doing something that's feels like a closed door to everybody at such an exalted level. To which is it is interesting. You didn't see it that way. Though at the time. Yeah no man. And and i i was at the time i think i was in my own head probably wasn't thinking about bia. Being a national hero. And with all the problems i saw that i could see because i i was so militarize in my views about things and just just where i was. You know an headed do with getting done being service Would come up with these things like we were doing. A twenty four hour with the chrome dome missions where the airplane take off and they were five or twenty four hours over russia and underworld targeting was i was in intelligence and all that stuff and so and so we we had three crews because it since they refined twenty four hours we have a fruit grant eight hour shifts and they all had to be sitting up in chairs in these seats waiting their return and so i came up with this brain idea of taking some room on the b fifty two and making cops and beds saying like the don't train you know and saw a design that had fled to be fifty two in order to get all That whole thing worked out and so and he got praised. They got a got awards. I always getting an award was getting award for doing something And so the whole idea of leaving net. I had control over that going into something that had absolutely no control whatsoever and i didn't notice. Dan are in the research development. I didn't understand i. These guys operated and everybody in that system is all independent and so promoting all these guys wanna be stars like yeager. He's right. And so. I say yes in stopping in four days later therefore does not operate that way took boats groups and send all that stuff in man and not a month later not six weeks later or days later against his fame pentagon saying we say down evers went into i so that was going to be team us right minimum. Statistically because he won't one point five. Yeah and so. I go down there in a a meet with. You're going to meet with all these generals and stuff like that any and they give me all this as minorities totally unoccupied swishing. They had nothing to do with the scientists space off like a. What would you feel like sitting on the top in the smoking rocket. would you be afraid. Not afraid like a psychological Not nuts a went by the interviews and flight test back at my plane. Move back up the travis wherever station forty five minute flight when i got landed at travis a stamp me with a flag i mean was like minimal. You know what i mean. Say a cab drive. Please follow mates and they took me to personnel and they had all these papers all land of all in these roles of software abbas citing life away. The immediately made me a regular officer. Bazaar was absolutely bizarre. Walked out of there now. Not a reserve officer even a regular officer. I got all these privileges in of all these things. It was unbelievable happened in the forty five minutes from the time i left edwards. All the stuff is being done so and and was there at the time that this happened was their national reporting on this immediately or does that come old vacuum later i know later and of course by commanders and the people i've worked with they hands i was in the they did announce the base paper in huntley brinkley. Guys caught onto this thing and are and it. Just all happened so fast. This amendments is bro in bandon. Instead of a why should it be shooting world around and i lost all of my alma credibility because i accepted. Oh man yeah. They accepted assignment because I was i was a little star star so the fact that you were going to do this other thing. They were kind of resentful of that. Oh yes yes. Wow yeah and Natural they would be because no here. I played my politics right now. I'm on a base where my politics two right. And i wasn't them i wasn't i wasn't black. I wouldn't want them to these guys. I was not one day. I was a little special little guy who ran around. Getting things done that. That was me And so two am for for them. Miss that that because these guys are actually finding my services as these a senior officer. And i got pictures approve a all these awards. I was getting the so now. You go into a situation where you become a public figure you know because you become the face of integration in space gray ladders a day so and this is now you're getting this is the dual nature of it. The black press of course goes to town. I mean urine jet ebony. You know all the publications but the white press picks up as well in both worlds our governor magazines all over the world. Yeah comes like a global sensation overnight. And i think you should. You hadn't done anything okay. So this is what i wanted to ask you. Nothing's happened yet yet. You're you become this star. So what was that. Like in your married. At the time he had a couple of young children. I mean wh what is the feeling of that. Is that an out of body experience where you're not ready for that. Did it surprise you with a dirty little secret. Is that the that the total out of body experience that i experienced with my wife and i were separated at the time. Oh wow now that would handle where now so at the same meeting when i went to edwards This is interesting in the last. I would assume you're happy to wear. And i said no i'm not and they said were she. I said i don't know who find her. Oh my offer of the offer is way. So where was your wife. Where's your wife at this time. No she she had moved to us. We hold on a second was living with. They might in san francisco with her two kids. Your two kids. No no no no no. She left me. You have the kids and with the white guy in san francisco and they say go. Get her right home and so okay. What do you tell your wife what do you do. I look you guys but Somebody of us about to be an astronaut or one of the marriage and up as a world worshiping. She told me so. I called grow at a coffee shop. Market street okay is told her this this this pickle been as it would be this she. She's well i'm told all about the ups and downs like that is it okay. I'll give you a year. And i want to complete wardrobe lukoil. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna ask you questions about this but i'm just gonna assume the life of an officer who flies by jets might have contributed separation. They back lifestyle. Let's say you're a hotshot at that time. Let's just be honest so your wife comes back the promise of a new job. You become this globalist and station And so when you start your training. Is there resentment from the other people in it. That is there may be a racial thing but is there also resentment of why this. Why does this guy. This attention was there any of that thing going on there. With as early as it wasn't the attention part it might have been a little different in their. I'm guessing 'cause as you know there are some guys who are gonna be as jerks some guys who are not going to be calling him. That was an organized. And i think it'd probably started somewhere in congress at the you know having this black guy we've got seven stars today. Seven should not said right. The mercury seven had just been appointed two years before this fifty nine. This is nineteen year. Okay and so now they chance of millions of dollars making heroes out these guys again and they talked about all. The hazards abandoned her radiation belt. All these things and these guys were superhuman bam. Now you're gonna take a black. Hi linda black guy. Or a woman your way and elevate these guys to their status by decree by just putting the guy's name in the paper all in new making this this guy equal those guys who years later congress snuffed out in the house of the senate divided in the reason i know this was. I was getting mail from them. You know and i was getting bad. Meldons both good mail in the in the guys in the house of a congressman in the house were forward in most of the senate were guest for the heddon. Do with fooling around the text. America's tax base because nasa needed them all this money if they put a black person in the middle of this thing. The american taxpayer will goal the hill relative to their science Of efforts and nasa. Oh man nasa just wigged out nashville in so and so so. Nasa was against this. Oh one hundred percents Hundred percent say because that we're not social engineers that were there thank you know. We're into science a social engineer. Sleep that comment They're trying to cram this nigga down our throat or something like that. Somebody made a comment that happened attributable to our famous Gator yes no end up happening. Ya was upset because the president didn't consult with him but he's top ason with united states of america. I got votes the speed speedy. So he's ahead of the school is all saints. Okay and men never got out of high schools. Okay american hero. He was one of your heroes right. Yeah yeah he. He certainly was You know and so he was upset because he was consulted consulted and kennedy moved him on kennedy side and say okay helped his you know as a took it upon himself a story was moved by curtis lemay. Who was chief of staff at a answer. your call i got laid. That was doing. Parades what i got sprayed so the next week just i got a couple of praise houthi there. I'll be there. In the meantime yeager calls the staff and the students got on early weaker. These white boys get them to two weeks in a plant. Their flag competitive. Yeah yeah and so. He called everybody in the auditorium of just And just you know and this comes from the mouth of somebody that was their discipline. Easy evidence but he opened washington trying to premonition on arthur. And we can't let him graduate. Wow the be graduates more and more and more comfortable out so chuck ganger. Who was the head of the skull at the time or this program. He could say said to the group of people before you arrived we cannot let them graduate. We cannot let didn't graduate. Because what is kennedy's kennedy wants to do is turn the whole astronaut corps black. So it makes black people equals. The white people doesn't only back in fun. Evaluation can have today that if he could take and look what happened to liaise look for him to baseball on the with guys now number. Five like guys on the court on both teams and they went through this whole either rations of why. They're all lose their jobs. If i'm graduate because once it happened just go poem in the same way to sports teams years so he even told me to my face Eighty tell you that to your face. Oh boy i bush. Let me ask okay. Let me sabri sub. Because there's no context for these types of conversations because the world was just different back then you know. People have different kinds nasa. Here's get say that's got us out controversial. I'm willing duck did you. Have you said you have many conversations with chuck yeager where some of those cordial. You know like it's nice. I mean what kind of a man was he was did. He seem like i mean. obviously he was. He was a racist about this done. But i'm sure he occurred to you in different ways that at the same time right. You know you're going to have. What have these knock down drag out meetings. Each meeting of the reason breeze meeting was him asking me to resign. And so i got and some of them were private. Some have people witnesses at and we talk. And and i see what you're the no was that i was being handle on the west wing of the white house and he did not know that. So i was a little cocky direct communication with the white house. George reedy was my handler in the west week. Okay ex harvard graduate and and with the young and i talked to almost every day. Wow because my guy you're on a whole here for level. Yeah yeah and so in. These guys didn't know that obviously ellum So i was relatively cocky going. I was not intimidating to how it chuck yeager. How would he suggest it was he blunt about it was he trying to be like a cordial body was like trying to be persuasive with china. You know you know his demeanor. Was that You know. I'm the king of all things on the on the headshot i'm the guy you know and would start off. And he was a thing that He walked around with a whether the a yellow tara page out of that and he had all these names on it and folded up in his pocket and every time i walk in eighty any police paper out in any says convoy gear. This draw something draw. It says it has a hundred and fifty white boys names on there and the all more qualified than you ought to be here. so why. don't you You know you're gonna get killed. You know you went back. And you know. Kennedy's john q. And reason why. Canada doesn't mind. Killing new is because he's done his duty just by appointing you. he's not. He's fulfilled his obligations to the black community just by pointing down as not as well you know. And so i'm tony Try to save your life. Your yeah no. No he was say. Oh you know you're gonna get killed. You do know that and then none of me you know as you know. There's a move for them to but you open space beef up there and so a so a one of our meetings as it's a S a damn good idea. He looked at me. really funny. A says is going to go out on the front lawn every night and look at the sky and says there goes daddy alert cozied up. The rights blacks. Yeah and so. He even relate to me all these You know and he was talking about how great the white pilots were. And you know what. Every street on edwards air force base is named after a did The don't talk to me. About how super why guys are dead and they're all white and so and we a back a little bit but was what was so hilarious. You'd love this. Get up with good talking get up any get about cheer and he walk around that the input on me so yeah by the way if you need help call me. Yeah i was. That's what i was trying to get. I bet like through his racism though even probably admired you because you were. You weren't back in jail like i bet. There was some admiration even though he couldn't take it because the what does he do. How could this black man. This negra i love how he tried to demean you on the qualification side because even later i think in his book he asserted that you needed a tutor and all these types of games man i know coarser were false. But that's how he wanted to present it to the world kinda clean it up afterwards. It if he wanted to get rid of me why would he have. Somebody tutoring me. yes on. that doesn't make sense. Yeah so so you had how. How big was your class was at sixteen was that how many seventeen okay and when they a So you go through this training with the guys in you. Go through that. And now nasa is gonna make the announcement and they're gonna pick twelve out of the seventeen. Is that what the number was well. A some of those guys will come from other sources. Okay from other guy. so so. that's i was wondering how they played so from your place. How many depot like the like the top. Yeah from your training situation. Why am i class. They picked I think four or five. They've got they've got a gym ruin is about four or five of out of my class and that right now is a class. I was expected to be involved in okay. And and some of the guys. I waited and seven hundred seventeen and And they only picked by governor school right right anna but when most of those guy Of the someone that mostly You know some foreign pilots. And some like bob tangy he the did wanna be astronauts and they just they just went to the good test while train in So so so out of my class of they. They probably took five out of my class. So there's this big expectation for you at the time. And now i think we're in nineteen sixty three. I believe when they management right okay. There's a big expectation that some building over a couple of years. You've done interviews with people like i said you've been in these magazines. Everyone expects you to be part of this announcement that nasr's making your and they even ask i. It might have been d.c. slayton at the time. I'm not sure What happened to you think it was like what wasn't there. A negro involves In konate a negro boy negro boy. Wasn't there a negro boy. 'cause i think they're in the south when they're asking us to book not that that makes a difference and dick says no just like there and i look at that now and i'm it's shocking to me. How quickly you were erased as if it never really happened What happened to you personally at that time. Did it feel like that to you. It just days swept in here to do all this thing. Did you feel like what was going on with you at that time. Well and go back to the white guy. I want to know that to you what what would choose. The whole thing was was moving. Twenty second nineteen sixty three. Yes that's correct yes. Okay now. The president So now everything. The that was the scrammed on And so now We were in the in seattle going to full mission. They had a full mission simulator of there. Where you can in the space will orbit Fun things and and i was waiting on my turn to go in and when the guys came in and says what students all the way it came into the room where we were all waiting in the president's all has been assassinated in says something really weird his. I think we got the vice. President also was his weeks stuff. He this guy were really said that i said you know. That's a funny dude But prison getting killed them freelancing And i brought that up the there. There were four catholic in my class by the way in so all four all for the catholic guides of were more of. I dunno feeling it. If you will allow the other guys weren't feeling at all is well you too bad guy kill so you know how in so and so they call the class off in the those another a politics running around Because yeganeh told these guys. That's a meeting. Do not socialize with this guy. Drink with this guy Do not be friend this guy. Because six months he won't be able to psychologically take it with you know and so everybody got word. You leave it alone. Don't socialize white but a string saint beginning to have these these these bunch of white boys and they came these good conclusion. That kid is going to send this guy into space and the way they pick these the astronaut guys or from the guys that are down there already. They have heavy input all which guys back there to take. Okay that's how you know being they've become buddy buddy and so these guys have come to the conclusion. That kid is going to put graded space. And and i haven't made any dwight. You know say hey you know you can be must secret. Bunny i better start befriending with. That's what got us started happening. And so but we cancelled all the training went into the executive dining room. And of course we were expection The bowling Places pack is executives. you know. We've drinking caviar and champagne. Which is what we did everything. We went home for the first time in quite a while. The table by myself in all the conversation in the next day was dwight. So so after kennedy's assassination people like. I don't know if we have to be friends with them anymore. What's accurate what happened. Yeah and so now. The bad news is that The cancel this was friday. They cancelled training. We flew back to words. I want to work monday morning in where these mail boxes were. Our meal comes in and it was a big stack of papers in my mailbox. Should be germany. And i'm tracy man in the orders. Were the i was gonna be the less on officer for the german space program and so naturally. I got incense because now two days after this guy did three days. I guess yeah fast. So so jumped on plane. I'm surprised they even gave me netflix. Nickelback they're checked out. A an airplane flew back. The andrews in call whitney whitney cooked with bobby Bobby kennedy said you're not going anywhere you know. This cancelled so he called the pentagon and the orders. And so now. And so. I go back thinking i got. I got that sale you know. And so that I got back on thursday morning so you still not okay. Well all right residents fascinated but now begin. It is still influential. There you know looks like was at the time so you think you're still going to be an astronaut right. Yeah right and so that. Friday I went to work again. It had new said ours shipping me to canada as a canadian space. And so so he had. He had to go kill those artists as well. You know you're not going anywhere. Says that really worry about that. You're gonna get this out of the united states. Yeah and so in the meantime there. There's a bio concern about him. Would you gonna do with me right. So i got a call To to to go to the white house. And i go up and general chair. Hyun is is running this. The deal in the president has as a here kevin bright. You do understand politics. I'm sure my now everything And you know the burden has got to have his own like Because you are a kennedy man but The president that gets an ownership thing. Oh yeah his own blacks astronaut in so you understand that. But here's we want to make a deal with you. You are going into space coming on the president guaranteed you will have a space mission one way or another. You're going into space. Got to help us. And so you gotta help us find your replacement but you gotta go away for three years. Okay were were we. Don't care where you go. He said do you have one in blowback spin around. I said no you get one. Close your eyes where your finger pointing mcglone as for we're gonna send you now you gonna get a check just likes to wear the military with no more speeches. Because i was really heavy in the speaking circuit. Yeah no more speaking no more public interviews novels you at your to disappear for the next three years. They are erasing you to your face. Wow book as but but you gotta help us out The president wants to know everything that happened. You could embed from the time. You've got the first letter in sixty three. And so i wrote in and said he wants to everything and anyone's recommendations as to what the publication of this guy should be this how that all of these have written on all this stuff and i was saying that so i said down and i answered very long letter and a final sentences. It was with the excised in other words mr president. He's gotta be super nick hat. Yes they in mel. Let's put that. At the beginning cases i would have opened with that line. A good we can get into that space and so he's taken it all so blessed. Ironically johnson would have said the same thing. So what kind of super nigger doing need in here. Probably the same thing. Oh god so you give them that letter so you they made you basically be the instrument of your own demise in some ways layer well. What was happening. That idea. I left Wright patterson air base van and they thought i was really too close to power because that was hop skip and a jump from dc. 'cause i was in washington of making speeches on his time in the civil rights. You know because you have the march on washington that had happened in sixty three courts. Kennedy's assassination restaurant johnson. Coming up too so What i did. I chose a abass. Hahnemann air base in a in alamogordo new mexico. And i can. I can get back into fighters because they were fighter tests but it's all went there and get your family. Did your family go with you Yeah yeah well actually. I took my kids to my mom. Kizer were staying with my mom. And so i moved to homily airbase and i was nice. Quiet they're a wonderful job by commanders. Had fallen in love with me home. Doing flight tests for airplanes in my life is just going along fantastic and i was There's a that was a big thing that happened right before i moved on this magazine. Article out yes. I i know where you're going How about the troubles of of the first leg astronaut to her in the head in there and they never consulted me on the article but it turns out that wife on. I finally got the divorce him and i got involved with the young lady that used to work for everybody magazine. A model for the magazine so she called emily magazine up. Let's say you got hot story for ten thousand dollars up from liu so she never got the money but she totally needed. I had made some statements that president johnson was racist in this in so i was landing. I was channel lake of the chess mission channel lake which is north of sacramento flannel based coming in wants to area areas. Top secret basement in at all these sabean airplanes. The what the heck is going on. And i landed. And the commanded the admiral commanding for the navy. Thinks it gun the plane. It says a command not to get off this airplane. That's what's going on. What do you mean is as you go to any air force base. Just just start to get out of here fuel fuel and said but i'm not going anywhere and he said argued is stay on his airplane as your orders and get off. Airplane got everybody walked out and the all these cameras. Set up microphones set up. And i grew by the press. That the did you go a resident down races. They do as soon as a magazine. I didn't even know there wasn't it was a magazine or i had no idea i hadn't heard that And so the the the commanding gundy's nimble off a back to the bill q. And as a maybe other shut the mission chartres by tampa got to build a winter maroon with secretary makmur on the phone and he says Comes right. president is so proud of uses. What to do you said you you yourself so well then you defended him so well-mixed he's the for instance re proud and we gotta get you back to the white house as soon as you possibly can president talk to you and all that stuff and so i had that looming stadium the background with his ebony magazine article i got. I got some hate mail but most of the mail. I got snow All this time. I'm getting inundated with mail. No matter what miss it got up thousand letters a day from all over the world and is absolutely unbelievable. So but in the meantime. I'm i'm done holland and as the next thing you know I was. I went to the crew down to the flight line. They have a test mission. Went under the and my my little crew chiefs eighteen year. Old black kid. He was crying as who man. What's going on. We says the three men came down here yesterday in all skinned black in the took me to room and offer s. Would it take more stripes on your sleeve or money to fix kevin joyce airplanes so wouldn't come back that's already kid is. The guy was described as it s. Not funny i'm scared. I don't know what to do. Wait so some gentlemen dressed in black came up to was this a whitegate. No we'd like it that kid one. Would it take for you to fix his plane so he can come back. Wow install you kiss arse crying man. Oh man but i i do. I just don't do anything. I'll take care of this so i went onto full land and i said i'm not flying today. We've got put report. A what do we have to do. Is that what you sick as nazi. I'm just not flying. So i love their office and resigned in this center Called twix is back in the day. And i had submitted through my personnel. At my general is you know this is crazy though. You're doing my best pilots. Who do you think ordered that. Where do you think. Do you know where that came from or did you never find out. You have an idea where who did ca somebody people. Just don't walk up and say that thing somebody. Somebody had to order that out. You know i totally agree with a whether it was you know whether it was done by consensus or just hot was done. Well somebody ordered it. What did did a thing in in one hour later. It didn't take again a week or month are later. Got my commander got twix by a ordering the guy to prepare me to to be indicted for insubordination. They had a whole list of thing breaking the chain of command and and the result was twenty one years stockade. What so you said you were going to leap. Which is what they want by the now they feel like you won't have the protection of the white house or whatever and so so they can just throw the book at you right for being an omni nego the match that this is what these charges are insubordination up night. Yeah right all right. And and so i had to get lawyers and lobbyists commanders on the side and so so we had this call from the pentagon are trying to resolve this whether i was going to stockade for twenty one years and so my base said look. This guy is one of my best pilots. If he goes to the stockade is going to be handcuffed to me. Wow i'm going with it. If he's going to be there twenty one years. I'm going to be there. And so they started negotiating and the some first thing was a bad conduct. This jar loss of all thing goes. They've all loss of privileges. Never the whole range of things and and this guy is going to be big speaker there. I got the lawyers in this room. The commanders and stuff in miami that make up these one of one guy that apparently the zone these things you know you guys got to be stopped because i was making speeches and all that stuff. Since he's got to be stopped and he's going to to jail you know and so My commander negotiated. He kicked all our room. But we could still what was on because it's so talking with so loud and he said no he didn't want me to vote anymore lawsuit voting privileges with the whole gap. And so anyway. The by commander said well. We'll do is we'll start something to spill the beans and make this whole thing public if you guys back off and studies an okay. So here's the deal he's gotta be off. A of your base within seventy two hours is never to enter a government building for the rest of his life. And just what's here is by the way nineteen sixty six. This is six k nine hundred sixty six okay and And so So i had to give them a furniture away. I couldn't tell you the base. You normally give you thirty days gets to business straight giveaway furniture. I i just at all my personal stuff and in a volkswagen in mercury sixty one mercury both ragging on the back of mercury in the half and i just put all my personal than the in the volkswagen loaded up and lab denver colorado. And it was all over your ever in. It's all over you no longer in the military you know. Things kept coming back because there were guys grievances that were trying to Process post prosecute me Because the deal was I go to white house. I was running around with senators. And you gotta go the way military chain of command isn't it really right But you gotta go through chain of convenience came. This cultural congressman. Got lieutenant for every meetings while i was orchestrating. These meetings as being ordered to washington d. c. for all the meetings with senator senator. Carlson was struck me. He made it all hundred. Senators and doing heyday. You know and i didn't orchestrate. That orchestrated outside of my purview. The they had recorded stop and they had recordings all messages. They attacked by phone for the time. I walked by step by phone. Yeah they had all that. Everybody talked to every letter that i got. I got an unlikely. I probably half of the male because he senators the writing. In the right intercepted. Yeah yeah you know. And and so. They had all that against man. Yeah so that's what they used to get off the same. Wow and of course. They didn't even think about astronauts for twenty years because the next group were twenty years before the active but there was one as there was one person who was in training and he died in training. Yeah but bob lawrence. Bob laura's training and ninety wittingly hill Because i told them they won't after me because they didn't have none other guys and a degrees either one guy. I think dave scott had one but on the other guys. Ms degree all at air nautical engineering. Like all the rest of the guy shirt up. When i told the president said he's got to have. Yes when bob got a point of he was only candidate then again and on they had to be fulfilled grading in the metro that made a major in saying he did meet a gave him all the stuff. If you're going to be this astra mike guy. Yeah you gotta have all the showed some everything. So bob heaven and a very was a guy. I don't think bob will fight apart right and that kind of raise my consciousness because of men which were i got killed in a jet in very sad a another a corollary to that is i radically. there's a white astronaut in ed white. You're the black Debate you know. In ed way was first american office space because the russians had done before his first american log in space in many people in the black community. Thought that ed white had just walked in space. I congratulate you as mayor and you don't know the fascinating story about. There wasn't so hot on his bike. Asham thing and the the neat neat neat he didn't have the yeager syndrome. he was all. Good guy But he and. I never talk to the interface here. But i do know that. He thought that the the idea was okay but it was too soon though they should waited As i walked in space he found me right. Patterson airforce base and brought me to boxes. Wow man meal is being brought up to you personally. Yeah wow and he brought it brought me said you know what and they and we talked. I thought this was a dummy. This idea of bringing you this program. I thought that was stupid. You know. I'm from chafed troop but after getting this mail radiant understand what kennedy was trying to do. Wow i'm fully behind. That was the wright patterson that yeah i do i assume that bucks he was. He wasn't the correspondence of just regular being. Who have meant so much to them and it it kind of changes opinion. But but i just thought larry and million in and i became even closer because he was in democrat program. Yes and i was zero g highland wright patterson okay and so this is really funny was it like i say he was really. He was engineer the graduate he he had he had the right. Yeah and so. We'll we'll what happened on what. I missed a done all the research for eliminating in space in another particular. Sas over that saw what happened was we. We have to and it has to be done zero de conditions. Yes we can start in. The bell knew ray in a narrow pan up in two zero t read and so he was sitting in the. it'd be sitting in a mockup announce spacesuit at that time is seven layers. Now you're When the pena's gets cold shrinks ansa do we got thirty. Three seconds street. kids Him and you can start until the bill because there's thirty seconds when they're weightless because of the you got you got all these. Oh my god and you gotta dig down in there. You gotta find his thing and the twenty one year. Old engineer engineered We'll chalice like wang land and they have a string on a hose on it. Up when on the inside of a heads sticky substance and over they could get your weenie anywhere. It was steak and that was back in his own man then right and so we can never get his thing out the and so and one of our premium again a first of all we have this thing where by getting out right. So and so as i came over to that tiring stream on the in his weenie. Good sense good you know and itching. That edberg touching and they under your wing. That's where we're going to do. Oh thanks thanks ed. Though problem the problem was getting it out after unzip zipper so if you pull that string and you pull right on route get it in the cups man often road that so so and then when we have to we have we have four rounds space hanging on eggers in their work it would everywhere but the rape of as i remember his is a you know. How are we going to get to the moon. If that's crazy that's great. And he was. He was just so he would just man everybody is all out and then of course He was part of the three. That unfortunately perished on the on the launch pad. In the i. I'm really bothered. I'll and is it. Dry gus grissom And came remember the astronauts team so that was very very sad ending to that which Erratically started help nasa to refocus and restart the program. But it's very tragic guys to well burn in that patty laws yes z. You see if the russians had a two guests. Didn't worry about that can seven and a lot of controversy in vail about us as one gas system in goats jackson's volatile. I mean they just seemed to me. It was too volatile in there and they changed a lot of things because of that. Let me ask you this. Because i really appreciate you being here in with. This is like the longest father we've had part of it. You know. I just. I really just wanted to have a chance to talk to you. Just kind of That people listen to to your story in that type of thing did you. Did you continue to follow nelson the years after the. Did you like when guy blue for when he eventually went into those guys in correspondence with he or or mcneil or any of those guys. A guy real close. I don. a sculptor of his Kansas city so the way. I put his second at which we don't even have time for is because you you become a sculpture so you come back to art after all these years where we started you become this great artist and you have all these sculpture word and i'm looking at some behind you right now. And and you did a and guide blueprint who became the first african american to been going into space. you did a sculpture for his mom. His wow and for libraries named after he's a star journalists. Abc was it and she's gotten a nobel prize for literature. It's absolutely brilliant. But god i ended up. Getting rid of me quotes. We're on tour together about space me talking about. Oh that's great are designs. that's great. I love that allah and the kids. I asked him then. I come in and tell them about art and the saints part of art on an holy say really fits together. That's me and i had a good time with them. With what is put a after watching the guy who phenomenon watcher of that yesterday. The quest And i saw what happened to you in a way because this guys have statues all over this absolutely thousand percent. I agree thousand percent. Viewed mentioned this name. People go who and you know. I mean look at some of our our black organization. Shoot all these wars. yeah nothing. Did any recognized this man. I i said to myself well. Maybe one so bad after all because of experience that fate after after boy was Why wouldn't you know. And i'll be willing to bet. I get ten times the fan. Mail the gab. Ooh gets yeah okay and it was never it was the black community followed him. Like never give him his props. They gave nothing in the only place. He's been honored so it's crazy and it happened during the reagan administration which so people didn't want to celebrate that things just crazy as i said to myself. Well my fate. I didn't miss anything. Because a 'cause i i wouldn't be doing art. Be over on being the first space jam. Wealth is not too late for that. We'll add thank you so much for sitting here with this and like i said i wanted to take the extra time for this. It's been extraordinary. And i wanted to ended on a note. Talking to who i feel is an american hero in my is a user deserve all the praise and credit for gone through that byron coming out in the other side. So i just want to thank you personally. Love it i. I still don't know how you found out. I was ashamed myself for not knowing your story. I was you know as i go. Let me let me watch this space special. I do that all the time. They're doing anything different. And it was watching this one and they told you start to go away. What what is pigging. Show me everything hidden figures hiding right and say it was fastened so then i went down arapahoe to learn all about you. You know and i said i talk to tonight on my show. You know i really appreciate it. Trust me real highlight will thank you so much. I wish you all the best union family and And guys go down go down your own hole take a look at some at sculptured to in line to gets some great stuff out there for you to see and Let's hope we can as you say for you and guy. Mr mcneil who perished in the challenger exercise mae jemison and a lot of our black astronauts who really deserve some more. You know accusation out there and you know. We need some more schools named after slow. These people along sheriffs in the of that you came up in a time where education and those libraries and those books. That was the way out of your situation. You know everybody.

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The restrictions must stay in place but for how long? Local officials want the riots to continue? President Trump has done more for Black Americans than anyone since Lincoln?

The Conservative Circus w/ James T. Harris

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The restrictions must stay in place but for how long? Local officials want the riots to continue? President Trump has done more for Black Americans than anyone since Lincoln?

"Take. Time to face backs. Democrats are willing to hurt Americans to trump. Ladies and gentlemen children of all ages. To turn the survey. Circus. TV Address Democrat governors are not giving up their lockdown powers. No matter how much. It hurts people's lives. With a total lack of irony. Democrats ignored the real science calling for reopening the economy at schools while at the same time. The they label US deniers. They labeled deniers. Anyone who disagrees with the the fake climate change science remember that. Your climate deniers. Follow the science man when it comes to the climate. Science is defined as the intellectual and practical activity, encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. Science. Here's examples of science. Don't wear masks. Wear masks. Science Coffee, will kill you. Cough good for you. Science. Chocolate will kill you know chocolate is good for you. Fatty foods will kill you corrupt. Kill you. The world will freeze in a nuclear winter. The oceans will bubble away. Science! Even though science doesn't lie doesn't always live up to his reputation. A decision must be made folks when when the evidence is overwhelming when the science has been. We've got governors out there who have no problem sending People's Mothers Fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers, the highest risk age group to certain death alone in nursing facilities while preventing their loved was the opportunity to even say goodbye. Later. The unabashedly take a victory lap while bragging to the world. How successful they work! We're talking about Cuomo here. Now. They insist on quarantining the the most the least at risk group out there. We're talking about children. They WANNA. Quarantine them by keeping the schools closed. The risk of Corona virus school age kids. Is. Will it doesn't exist. Yet, we got folks out there claiming that the schools should stay close for the children. The median age of of folks who are succumbing to the virus as seventy eight seventy eight years old. Ninety nine point ninety six percent are adults. Matter, does it. Because Democrats fully planned to keep the economy shut down. Through November two third. Through Election Day. Now many kids who took online classes during this up pandemic. Never even signed onto a computer classes see that's one of the most under reported stories in this state in the country. Of how how we just off complete tracker kids. Is even though I think home schooling is a blessing. A lot of folks are not equipped to do that. And online teaching is not a not an adequate substitute. Just like a lot of a finding out. You know what working at home sub could do it. Some are very efficient, but some are not. How do you think is going with the kids? Sitting in the living room with Mommy's laptop is not a situation conducive to learning. In addition, going to school, go to school has much to do about social interaction, as it does with acquiring knowledge yet knowing all of this Democrats are making a conscious decision to hurt our children's lives and future prospects game a presidency. And left pretends there they're all on the side of all. That is right, and all that is just an all. That is holy. Actually they're. They're willing to do anything not right unjust unholy to get what they want. And they want closures until the election. One of the worst lessons learned by by America Democrat mayors and governors throughout the covert and the riots, the and the and the looting. Is that they had almost unlimited power. These governors find out are finding. I have found out that they have unlimited power in an emergency. They literally can rule by decree. We've seen that right here in the great state of Arizona. And our governor is not a Democrat well. Yeah, well. These governors are relishing the opportunity to be dictators. And you know what they don't want to give up their newly acquired power, especially because it allows them to just ratchet up the misery for all of us nine elites. So that we could be used as a Cudgel to bludgeon trump and perhaps. Cost. President trump the presidency. That's what we're dealing with here. Democrats are assuming that with full control of the media. They get Vince people. That all of this Kovic shutdown. All of these riot nonsense is trump's fought. If they can keep the election close enough. They'll be able to to steal this baby with illegal voting. Illegally stealing votes. That's why they're now questioning. You know with just just oh with trump leave office. Will, he used the National Guard to keep him in office. These Democrats out here they have have created. A mess. You got. Economy killing. lockdowns closed schools. We've got property destroying. We've got election fraud with out. Four Bhagat the media, all full of lies, outright lying all to be used against the president who is virtually guaranteed re-election. Months ago. And right here. In the state of Arizona, we now have teachers that are protesting. Actively to keep the schools closed. We'll talk about that at six eighteen. You, are listening to the conservative circus. I am the ringmaster jade's Harris at the top of this hour. You'd have an opportunity to win. One thousand dollars make sure you are tuned in. Not Ready. Teaches across Arizona stage motor to protest school reopening opening. Let me read this for you again. This is amazing headline. Not Ready. Teachers across Arizona. Stage Motor marches to protest school reopenings. This is crazy. They started rolling in their park six PM Wednesday night. On the cars they scrawled messes. I'd rather see your kids on a laptop, then a ventilator. I'd rather see you. On a laptop ventilator, kids aren't on ventilators. Follow the science. Another message on the side of a car. Teachers are murderers, and as e of number one in cove it. This is amazing. This is more red for. Nonsense! Schools closed. Man That's watching eared. British soon the red red band is going to be blasting music to do loudspeakers because you know social distancing. We are. They were among dozens. If not hundreds of educators getting behind the wheel to participate in motor marches across Arizona yesterday evening, the Community Marches signify a new teacher movement, rising as protests, reopening schools for in person classes as a number of Covid, nineteen cases remained high in Arizona. Asking! Do Things in the future. You can trust that. I have no no intention of stopping. On not. Knowing I have no intention, no intention. Nasty. Action Support Leader. Over there at the red for at a couple of years ago. And now she is probably out there, too. We have no intention of stopping this this motorcade. To keep schools closed and you sit never did. Gate only. Never disengage well. They're not disengaging early. They're driving around. They drove in in in in a vehicle to hit the lights. Emergency lights blinking. Some teachers honked wave. People pass by the line of cars. Similar motor motor marches motor motor marches. Planned to in Scottsdale Tempe Mesa Gilbert Tucson Yuba. Got Another march planned. Later this week and surprise. Many of the teachers participating in the process they were engaged twenty eighteen and the red for movement. Oh. They got the red t-shirts on again, but this time they said. This time. We are facing life or death stakes. This is A. You know what? Shame on us. For forever forever, thinking that these teachers that teachers have integrity shame on us. They've already demonstrated to us that they're not ready the day. They don't care about their our kids as much as they I wanted to back to my students. I wanted to I will not. I will not be a test case I would not be your. State School Superintendent Kathy Hoffman. She was sending a message to Doug. Ducey Lord Ducie last, Tuesday. Urging the governor to set some clear metrics to dry the decision to reopen. She said we cannot ask schools to make decisions that will impact the teachers and students, health and safety without first, providing them with the necessary public health data. And Five Day. To make safe decisions. Amazing. Governor Ducey does not have the power to or I don't think he does. Lord Ducie doesn't have the power to say the schools will be open. Those are different districts. They have Tommy. Kathy! Would be the person to toe to apply some pressure, but is basically going to come down to the school boards and superintendents and new different needs different diarrheas. It's different cities. And yet here we are watching this spectacle. Of Red Fred Rides again. The south will rise again. They're back. They're back. Why are these teachers protesting? Some district teachers already are reported to their schools prepare for classrooms and beginning the beginning school year. Some teachers are being responsible. A lot of teachers and parents are really confused as to why they're being asked to go back in person though. When people are dying at an unprecedented rate here in Arizona are people dying unprecedented rate here in Arizona. Are they. See this. There's mass confusion and we live in the twenty first century. It is easy to get information. But, it really isn't. It's hard to get accurate information. Win The powers that be. Don't want you to have it. I'm talking about our government officials. I'm talking about the media. The media right now has another huge scare story our local media. That is feeling the fear. At Mit Lord Ducie on the hot seat his next presser, a whether or not. You know we're going to open things back up. I'll give you that fear story. At six, thirty three. You're Sean. Hannity works every day to make America great again. Listen at one on five fifty KFYI and on FM at ninety five eight five hd two. You're listening. To the seventy circus! Ringmaster James Team Harris Covert nineteen models. Oh. Covert nineteen dollars suggests keeping current restrictions in place for now. Here's why. Keep the restrictions in place. Oh Man. What's going on? This again, this is our local paper here. Ed's Governor Doug Ducey considers his next steps against covid nineteen to university researchers say the state cannot let down his guard if Arizona's want to see fewer people getting sick. University researchers. The models. See! We had a colbert nineteenth spike in June and July. And so now that that's putting high pressure on how it put high pressure on hospitals. But even these researchers are saying that over the past week. The crisis has shown signs of of moderating. Why would that happen? Could it be you know things are spreading out? Could it be that you know the that? The virus is running his course? No, that's not it at all. According to the experts. They're saying that the the interventions that Lord Ducie made like closing bars in gyms. Encouraging face coverings and restricting large gatherings that this is what has made a difference. And this is why. Arizona should continue to do this to get this virus under control. Yeah. Rosa's doing that thing with fingers control. Do, she has Lord Ducie has two important decisions ahead of him. What to do about the closures? And restrictions. He mandated a month ago. They're set to expire on Monday. And the other decision what to do about re opening schools for in person learning I love this this new terms in person learning say. Could. The current restrictions on bars gyms gatherings need to be maintained, sat the researchers who are looking at the models. We, need to keep the bars and jams. GATHERING PLACES CLOSED This is so asinine. We need to keep people on their couches looking at net flex eating processed foods. We need people to get fat unhealthy. We don't need people moving around. We don't need them out. We don't need them. Exercising. We certainly don't need them. Drinking and spending money in cavorting. We have to keep this curve flat. let me see. So Gerald he's an associate Professor University of Arizona. And we've got. This either the mail and Edna Enid Zuckerman College of Public Health. These are these are our models researchers? They're saying that this decision. About schools. And tapping it down. Got To keep the schools closed. Still so spread the virus. Even though the science is telling us at this, you know kids are not really impacted by this. The curve has been flattening. And it started to flatten last week according to the researchers. But now the question is. If it plateaued. If we if we open things back up, it may, it may be making another spike. Maybe that's because this is what viruses. Do! Maybe the virus has to do what viruses do, and if we let them do what they do, we get over this. Maybe, this is something that's going to be seasonal or maybe something. They call it a novel virus. But what I'm having a big problem with. Is How the science keeps changing. We shut things down for two weeks, so we could flatten the curves. Hospitals would not become overrun. And now it changes now. We're not trying to keep the hospitals from overrun. We're trying to secure covid nineteen. We're saying that we can't go out until there's a vaccine, we could have some news on the vaccine to a couple of new vaccines that are on the way. It record time? So Lord Ducie. You know he's got. He's got pressure on him. Today we're going to have. Raw, so we scheduled to have another a press conference from Lord Ducie in the crew today at that that big five hundred foot table. That is the rumor well rumor. Rumor. and which way is he going to go? Are we on pins and needles I? I'm not anymore. But I do realize something. People like me. People have the opinion that I do. We are quickly. BECOMING THE MINORITY Ask folks have just given into given into the the decrees to the mandates. To the masking people have given up. And everywhere you go, you see this, and I'm trying to tell parents you know you when it comes to education, your kids are going to be. Going to be used as a pond from here on until I. Don't know when that might be the new normal. Your kids as pawns on a big fat chessboard. And the the Liberals? The Democrats they're the ones that business is all political. They're the ones that things stay closed up. They're the ones that want to shut down. They're the ones that what they're governor to take over to take dictatorial powers to run our lives. This is an issue of freedom. And I'm telling you right now. We are on the losing side of it. Because? They're using this pandemic. To shred your constitutional rights. Some folks fighting back. We've got our eye on them legally. But I'm telling you. You are swimming against A. we're swimming against a very. Very strong tide. We'll give you the latest on a of this vaccine update also president. Trump had a presser yesterday in which he was, he was. He was kicking assets. The bill O'Reilly, update this morning at nine fifty now on five fifty. K. Of way I don FM ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the. She's suffered a circus. RINGMASTER NASA James Two. Thousand Thirteen minutes. You'RE GONNA. Have a chance to win a thousand dollars. Make sure you're tuned in. Advantages as roll the dice, actually your key word. Get it in their. Win a thousand bucks. President trump yesterday. Was giving a press conference and he was just easiest slinging it out there. He's a lighten him up. And he was telling folks that basically his his vision, starting to shape up now how he's going to go back. Go about going against a abiding going against the media going against Democrat Party going against Nancy. Pelosi is pushing back on all of this. Yesterday Nancy Pelosi so we should call the Kobe the the trump virus. Just hateful just hateful woman. Anyway this is all great. Because what this is doing is giving us a painting a picture for US aware the Democrats are who they are. And of course president trump is going to use that against them. President trump with his vision for the country. America must be a sanctuary for law abiding citizens, not criminal aliens. My Vision for America's cities could not be more different from the lawlessness being pushed by the extreme radical left. while. Want to de-fund defame and abolish the police. I want to support an honor. Our great beliefs while the radicals want to abolish charter schools that eliminates school choice I want to expand school choice and every family in. America should have that option while others want to destroy opportunity shutdown businesses and send our jobs overseas. We are hiring Americans and we are buying American product. We want to build factories in Baltimore Not Beijing. We WanNA make our products in Chicago not Shanghai. We want the American dream for American children, and I will fight to deliver that dream every ounce. Every single ounce of my strength I will be fighting. And you know what a lot of folks have no doubt about that. And everything. He said he would be fighting for. The Democrats are fighting against because they cannot be on the same page with the president. And I will say this. I mean what's amazing to me. That president trump has been working hard on behalf of the American people. I mean there's there's nobody that dowse said the things that he's able to accomplish even against with the stiff opposition. Going on is nothing short of amazing. And it's also amazing the depths. Of that the left has fallen to. And how they're willing to go much lower to accomplish their goals, which is to stop this president, this America first president. What we've been through the last three years is is bazaar. It's been a code civil war. But. It's heating up. And would many people were afraid of is even with a trump victory in November. We are afraid of the left ratcheting up the violence. This is no longer a peaceful transfer of power. This was the first time in American history. We had a a violent transfer of power. With the the the next day, immediately, you had people pouring into the streets, the female march all this kind of craziness. Organiz agitation for every one of president trump's executive orders. And, then once one method guy you know tried and true or burnt out then they would, they would change the something else. The only constant has been resistors, and it's been amazing from the left. It is amazing. How just a resilient they are! President trump was asked a question at this press yesterday the coronavirus presser. Hey will wear doctors. I'll come. We don't have any doctors opposed age with. Explanation yesterday, online and health expert for no longer joining you in these briefings. Because they're briefing me meeting them. I just spoke to Dr Chee. Dr Burkes is right outside and they're giving me all of everything they know as of as of this point in time, and I'm giving the information to you and I think it's probably. Very a concise way of doing it. It seems to be working out very well. Yes, it is. It seems to be working perfectly that way. He has to share the stage anymore with with government deep state government doctors. That's what I'm calling them. Who have a proven to be Inconsistent. And their inconsistency has been an embarrassment to the administration even though he can't really talk about that right now. But the fact that you don't see president trump sharing the stage with vouch e. I think speaks volumes. At seven three. We're going to talk about. The Joe Biden is the new commercial with Joe. Biden and Barack Obama. Which I think is hilarious is a visual thing, but I'm gonNA. Break it down for you also there's a huge surge in a trying to not push biden across the finish line, but to get him at the starting blocks. As are trying to get him back out. That's going. Be a seven zero three. Joe Biden in his old buddy Barack Obama de. Gentlemen Children of all ages. To. Serve at. Circuit! Address Biden rolling out the big guns. Biting campus. Obama, they're teaming up. There during the online the campaign this is this is so. You can't get this lucky Joe Biden. is going to be able to conduct a virtual campaign. Joe Biden is going to be able to basically run this campaign from his bunker from from his basement. He's not going to have to get in front of crowds, and you know what, even though people are saying well, wait to the debates I'm telling you. They're going to find a way to get out of the Bates is not going to happen. Because the can't happen because by can't debate. So they bring in Barack Hussein Obama there? You reunited Joe Biden Obama. And they held the socially distance conversation. About, the many challenges facing the nation right now all it was gripping. It was. And at one point Barack Obama I mean. He looked into the camera and he was talking to the people he he's almost say y'all urge it, but he was very very stern I appreciate. All of you being on this call. But. Man Wow? This is serious business. Whatever you've done so far. Is Not enough. There is no disconnect between. The urgency of this election in political moment, and what has been happening on the streets. Wow, there's no disconnect. The urgency of the moment and the violence. What's been happening on the street and the violence? We see on the street. You see other Democrats trying to use the violets. Trying to make it legitimate. Trying to say what's going on in Portland right now is legitimate. See! They're not shutting it. They're owning it because they believe. That this reflex. How Americans feel about. President trump. In this commercial. I should say in this What are we? What are we? Call it this fundraiser this this virtual virtual rally. This They're going to do one yesterday going to do another one next week, but here's here's what it sounds like. Your presence shoes, not my responsibility. I take no responsibility. He's not literal. Literal words than Colorado. While we were. Known understand his inability to get a sense. Of what people are going through him? He just can't. They can't relate in any way well, and one of the things that I have always known about you, Joe. It's the reason why I wanted to be my vice president, and the reason why you were so effective and it all starts with being able to relate to really if you can sit down with a family and see your own family in them, and in his struggles that you've gone through, her parents went through or kids are gone through. The if you can connect those struggles to somebody else's struggles, then you're gonNa work hard for him, and and that's always what's motivated you to get into public service. And they're sitting like across the room from each other. They're socially distance They walk as you walk into the room. They're like I comes. Joan then comes Obama. They're wearing their black masks. There, they are great examples of how we're supposed to be living with the covet, and then they sit down and they say things that are almost immediately forgivable. As they tried to tried to talk about how. President trump is not. Pathetic understand it doesn't want to get to know you. Can you ever imagine standing in front of our body and say I'm not taking responsibility. Responsibility for this. I'm not this is not no. I do remember. The Obama Administration not taking. Responsibility for Benghazi. I do remember the Obama. Administration not take responsibility for fast and furious. There so many. Obama debacles out there. That, they never had to answer to. It's amazing. How much they're trying to turn it all back on president trump. There was a moment yesterday when a Joe Biden was on camera. They're getting him back out there. So you know what? You know we're going to get a whole lot more of the biting gaps and the biting confusion I'm so I'm confused too on talk. Anyway whoever it is. And I just WanNa say appreciate doing they must use. Thank you for everything. Mr Vice President, I wanted to say appreciate shot because leadership year and Who are talking to? Who Are you? Where am I? I WANNA. Thank you for for taking part in walk a day in my shoes. You see other trying to play off in the. Obama was talking about here the empathy. Walk a day in my shoes, but Joe Biden does knows who's shoes he's in. He doesn't even know his own shoes. Joe Biden. Here's another what Joe Biden was was just. The staff is trying to manage him. They're trying to get him out. And, this is why I'm telling you actually this is. This is a illustration of why I'm telling you. That Joe Biden is not prepared to debate. Anybody vest the essence. Marvin. My whole notion, dealing with your to tell me I'm supposed to stop Nathan mortar say here. That the staff back to try to wave, mob tried to tell him to stop, but he's not. He's not finished. I almost feel guilty doing this. I feel guilty talking about the or letting you hear this seriously. Why are they trying to prop this guy up? Why do they think? He's going to be able to cross the finish line. Will I'm telling you because they're going to move the finish line. They're going to change the rules of the game. Mark, my words, these people do not play fair. They are not. Going to have this guy go to go. Two to three debates with President trump did not gonNA do it. Because he can't do it. Of this virus information out there. We got a new announcement that not just one, but we want to have a a couple of vaccines. And we have the government that is poised to spend a lot of money to invest a lot of money and one of the vaccines. We're getting closer. America. To The cure for cove it. Are you going to participate in this? Ross are going to have a conversation with Dr Zuhdi Jasser about this as well. We'll get to this at seven eighteen. Everybody every body more sleep. Noble, there are listening to. Conservative circus! Ringmaster James To. The United States is about to. Spend a lot of money about say waste with about the spin a lot of money. On some new corona virus vaccines. The their. But I guess they're gonNA, be ready I don't know. Fox News was all over the story about about the the the vaccines that are coming out. US reported more than a thousand corona. Virus Jess yesterday. That is the highest single day total in nearly two months, but that's about what we were seeing in New York alone back in the month of April at the same time. Scientists say they're getting closer to vaccine. The trump administration just announced this. The government will spend nearly two billion dollars to buy one hundred million doses of vaccine made by Pfizer Bio. The goal is to have those doses ready by the end of this year. Wow hundred million dollars. On doses, the government's going to spend that. And what they're going to give it out to the people for free. The mandate that you take it outside going to work. Hundred million dollars. All right over here at the CBS was CBS News. This morning had an interview. With Bill Gates. Bill Gates the Bill Gates of Microsoft. Yes, Bill Gates weighing in on the. Vaccines to US reported more than one thousand corona virus deaths the first time since May. A tipping point. Well unfortunately, we have a lot of young people who are infected. And over the next month or two, a lot of those infections will get up into older people where you have the very. High risk of death and so. It's kind of a race. The innovations therapeutics are reducing the death rate while this infection surge, which is really unique to the US we'll get into the older population and drive that death rate off so did you catch that Rogers? The the the young folks have the virus, and that's why we're seeing the spike yet. A thousand deaths United States because the that's been label cove it. It is see an as it goes to the young folks. Then it's GonNa. Go back to the old folks and that's we're GONNA see more deaths according to Bill Gates for months ago, you said we need a consistent nationwide approach to shutting down, and you said back then that if it didn't happen, it would be a recipe for disaster. You think we're witnessing that disaster now. South to take no Nora or Donald. Use You predicted this Bill Gates. You said if we don't go about this in a government shutdown if we don't have a dictator, shut down the whole. Country, we are going to have the spread of the virus. And you said things are going to get much worse bill, Gates. Is this what we're seeing now. Well! There's a lot of things we can go back and say. Why wasn't there a federal testing plan? WHY DIDN'T WE GET THE RANDOM TESTING DOWN? Wow, why aren't we getting the tasks out to low income minority communities? Serious mistakes were amazed series. Because we didn't understand the virus very while the understanding about the importance of mass came later right that we wish it Habte and then the US had the lowest compliance with Basque use of a any country. Didn't have the leadership message there, so leadership message. A lot of regrets regrets, but. You know we do have innovations in the pipeline. Innovations should reduce the death rate and eventually. By the end of next year, get us out of this terrible situation. Isn't this amazing? We have solutions in the wait a minute. Why is? Why you CBS talking to. To Bill Gates about this. Is Bill, Gates one of these scientists. Is Bill Gates one of the these experts. What is his expertise? When it comes to viruses Adam as a joke, because we know you know, they'll operating system for the immigrants as a full disclosure, they actually had a different guests booked, but they screwed up their bookings, so they ran to the real expert. and. That's the bill we want to hear from. He could make us when they went to. Gates. Equally qualified right. Is You know on a serious tip. This is kind of scary to me. Because Bill Gates's the guy who's behind you know the whole vaccine thing. He's a guy also wants to put a chip in the vaccine. See Bras laughing abby you. You're thinking. I'm making this up. You're thinking I'm making this up you. Get, spiracy stuff! No, not at all I just find it funny that people are just going to be willing to do it like they chip their dogs. No, they're going to. They're willing to put on the mask without question. You know they're going to do this. Of course they're going to be willing to take the vaccine with the chip in. This was kind of free I'm sorry scattered me out. There talking to Bill Gates and he's laying the groundwork for stings in the pipeline. Things in the pipeline that's coming. They're talking about vaccines. Now is the big push. The White House's by these things up. There say when they're ready, and so and then cases like by the you know by next year. We're going to your wife this out. We're not talking about a massive amounts of deaths worldwide. We're just not. And look at all of the energy, the focus the attention. This is getting. At seven thirty three. We're going to talk to a Dr Zuhdi Jasser about these issues. El, Rushbo, the Maha Rushie Rush limbaugh today at ten on five fifty KFYI and on FM at ninety five eight HD two. You're listening to the circus side. You're ringmaster James deserves. The United States is said to by one hundred billion doses of visor. Biotechs covid nineteen vaccine. For nearly two billion dollars. We've got to Bill Gates. Saying multiple vaccine doses could be necessary to protect from the virus bill. Gates the say that yeah the founder of Microsoft. He's also saying you know what you might need. Multiple doses of this vaccine to immunize yourself, and if that's necessary, the multiple doses could require more than seven billion vaccinations to be administered world. Wide! Innocent the ring of the conservative circus. We have Dr Zuhdi Jasser. He's the president of the Jasser Center for Comprehensive Care in Phoenix the former lieutenant commander in the United States, Navy Medical Corps and as the past president of Arizona Medical Association and Dr Jasser last night that the president was asked if he would be willing to be among the first ticket covid nineteen vaccine if you were him, would you be willing? Thanks for having me James yes I would I think if you look at the supply chains that are producing this? It's the same chain that have produced the flu vaccine that we use and others, and you know hats off to the government for using sort of a public private partnership in doing what they do. Is there twenty seven back seen in development? Normally you wouldn't see. See that there's not much profit to be made on vaccine now I do think that they should have been more transparency where some of that money went, but what they did is they funded multiple lines of development and SORTA headache competitive race to see who can get through the clinical phases, and you said biotech based in January and Pfizer based in New York now. Now have developed one that seems to be responsive to patients, showing antibody response and showing some t cell response so they're going to begin production and what they're doing is paying for production of front so that if it is approved, they'll have already tens of millions of vaccines, if not more ready to give out to patients now as you know with the flu. Flu Vaccine. We've been doing that for decades. And even with that a couple of years ago, we had a year where it was only fifteen percent effective, so even with vaccines that we've tried and tested some years better than others, and that's why you've got folks like gates and other saying that you might need couple etc, who knows bottom line is it looks like What takes eighteen to twenty four months is being done in twelve to fourteen months or possibly a vaccine available in December isn't that kind of concerning though that it was rushed in the coming out with this stuff much sooner than they usually would. Yeah, we have to always be skeptical and things that I rushed. Look at this. What patients are reporting? Side? Effects but again these are going through traditional trials that are h. observed funded and You have to believe that they're not going to allow things to be released to the general public that are showing number cliff as three and four trials are where they're having actual patient. We have a couple of sites of research centers here in Arizona their sites in Florida and Texas already that our patients are getting vaccines that are. Signing up to to be clinical subjects if you will, and we'll have to take a look at that, but at the end of the day remember, this is no panacea what this is going to prevent that second wave and twenty twenty one that might even be a mutated different virus is why they're also talking about multiple vaccines. This is the first wave. It's GonNa. Be a public prevention through just simply herd immunity like we're seeing now. This is what I'm curious about. Because each year to tell you the ticket flu shots, but it might not be the right shot for the right flu. That's going around. How do you now? Is that going to be the same thing for covert nineteen? Yeah right now we only think there's make basically one strain. They've talked about a couple. Other mutated strains, but the mutation doesn't seem to be a primary part of the strain, but who knows these are all guesses, Bhai Folks Smarter Than Me and Infectious Diseases, etc, but at the end of the day if you can get an immunization that works on fifteen twenty thirty percent of the population that will create enough immunity, where it will not spread at all significantly, and that's why the flu vaccine works. It's not that it works on one hundred percent, if it works on twenty to forty percent of the people ideally over fifty percent, you won't have a significant impact from the flu. Dr Zuhdi Jasser in the center ring of the conservative circus. He's the Jasser president of the Jasser. Center for Comprehensive Care in Phoenix. There is a discussion as to whether we should be more focus on therapeutics rather than vaccine. Your take on that discussion. Well that's that's a great question, but if you look in history over the last decades, a a therapeutic on viral, it you know antivirals against herpes antivirals against hepatitis even against influenza have taken years to develop. It's very hard to develop a therapeutical treatment now therapeutic treatments for patients critically ill. I completely agree with you. Patients in the hospital there are things that they're showing that decreased morbidity and illnesses and patients acutely ill, but therapeutic trials for prevention in the outpatient setting I think the cost benefit, ratio and other viruses has not proven to be a as education as vaccination in the long term got one more question for you Dr. Should we open schools to open? Schools are not. Any reason for schools to remain closed. I have to tell you I. I don't see any. I can't believe we're still I. Mean I get it. People are concerned about our children but the the data is overwhelmingly positive as far as kids. Being minimal risk can as far as concerns of the teachers do what we need to protect the teachers but they're essential personnel. Did we closed on the hospital because they're worried about Kobe and the personnel there? They're essential personnel, so protect the teachers. Get the kids back to school so that we don't have other pandemic of drug abuse, domestic abuse and other things that happened when kids stay at home. They don't go to school. Dr Jasser Dr Zuhdi. Jasser weighing in. Yeah I made a lot of folks like I would. When we're talking about the the vaccination, I'm not going to be first in line I'm sorry. But then again I don't take the flu shots, but the way Jasser Dr Jasser described. This is more. It's I'm the let me just say I feel better about it. Bill Gates us not make me feel better about it. I'll take them with the companies that Bill Gates investigation. That's I'm not gonNA. Go that direction. I might consider going in the other direction. I tell you what we have more on Joe. Biden coming up as the media has really getting out in front, trying to pave the way from him, and we have a big fat spike in gun, cells and people are beginning to ask the question why. smartphones going to monitor your every move might as well give it a healthy dose of conservative talk. Listen to news talk five fifty kfi anytime anywhere on the free iheartradio APP. Listening. At a circus ringmaster James, to Paris Joe Biden played the race card yesterday at the White House's pushing back against it. Joe Biden. Bobby rush out. They're playing the race card as well you. Donald is part of what the Democrats are doing with with the lockdown and reactions, the the protesting the violence. They're trying to not only blame it on trump, but they're saying that. The reason it's happening is the president. Trump is racist. Racially motivated. Here is Joe Biden. Talking about President, trump and his racism trying to be nice to you. I'm being deadly earnest about it. I genuinely media. And what President Trump has done. In going his his spreading of racist. Way He deals with with with people based on the color of their skin national origin where the FRAHM is absolutely sickening. No, sitting presidents never done this never never never. Know Republican presidents on. There's no democratic presidents. We've have racist. They've existed. They tried to get elected president. He's the first one that has. This is so wrong. This is so wrong is almost mining the very thing that he's accusing president trump of president. Trump has not done at all is a matter of fact. It's been other members of the Democrat Party that have done it. And his private life, and even in his public life, trump knows more people of color than than Joe Biden. All Joe Biden. Those is Barack. Hussein Obama in corn pop. Does it. In a little black here's that was rubbing on his leg or their black, though sitting in his lap with the roaches and stuff like that. That's all Joe Biden knows. Joe Biden doesn't know black folks people of color whereas you can go through a photo history of. Donald trump hanging out with the very people. Celebrities. Politicians. He funded them. What Joe Biden just said there's just evil. I mean the. The accusations. Morning. Joe Picked up on that and ran with it. I must say he's. He's done a lot of really pathetic things. But yesterday he blamed black people. Black lives matter out and Brown people. From Mexico for a spike in. States like. Florida. Interesting. New York. Cases Down for more people protesting, than. Any other city. The protest is crazy because you have people lockdown people sheltering in place put. The protesters are able to run wild. They WANNA. Say That going to church. Go into a bar is spreading the virus where you got protesters out here you know in some cities every single day odor masking now and they're trying to practice social distancing. It's absurd is absolutely absurd. Then you've got bobby rush who? Was One of the original Black Panthers. And now he's E- congressman? For Illinois. To instigate a race war. He wanted to have rang on why. Him. I'm the real. Red Red Win of the. Plant and I. Really like. Trying to. PAINT, planes of near junior racial animus that exist among so you might be more and everything and anything to. Do next he wants to me rain. and. Bobby. I could understand you much better if you would take the mask off. While, you were talking. I got the gist of it though. I got the gist of it. You want to change that president. Trump is trying to instigate a race war again. Accusing President. Trump of things that the Democrat Party have absolutely been involved it. Whether. We're talking about Trayvon Martin whether we're talking about A hands up. Don't shoot down there in Ferguson. Being whipped up by the Obama administration. It's crazy. It's crazy what we're watching, but this is what the left does. They're using the shutdown. they're using a the shut down of schools. They're closing down there, trying to close down companies. They don't WanNa. Come back fully especially. In the Blue States. They're blaming trump, and then they're also taking the racial aspect with the B. L. MO because he criticizes b. m.. He's criticizing black people. But we're watching amazing. You've talk about about. Democrat, tactics a little bit more at eight o three. Mayors in America are demanding Congress to stop trump from room there riots. Ways a gentleman children of all ages. To Conservatives. St Harris it truly is. An amazing thing we're watching. One that I. Really backfiring. On the on the Democrat Party you got these mayors out here. Who are whining and complaining and moaning about President trump sending in federal troops. To cut down on violence. They're calling him. stormtroopers president trump wants to send in stormtroopers. You got people like maxine waters out there saying that you know president trump. He's going to use his secret police to stay in office. He did not contact the local airs. It did not contact the governor's. He just sent them in. Who are these people? Why do they have these kinds of uniforms on where they cannot be identified? We don't know their names. We don't have anything that a by them. They have unmarked cars that have been pulling people off the street and throwing them into these cars I. WanNa tell you joy business what you see in countries where you have dictators in third world, countries with dictators would have. Military that they can cause against any time. What as a matter of fact, it has been suggested that this is a trial run of the president of the United States who may be organizing to not accept. What happens when we have the election if he's elected? Again this is amazing. maxine waters to say this may be a trial. A, what will happen? After the next election, whereas all of the violence in the streets right now. Is Because Hillary Clinton lost. If Hillary Clinton would've beat trump twenty sixteen. Well, we see this resistance movement. We see the violence. We see the rides of ANTIFA, but we have black lives matter. Now. Everything she's of these. Who are these people in the street with their federal troops? They're grabbing people their secret place. No actually get uniform on. But look at what she's accusing trump of. then. You Got Michael Steele. Used to be over the GOP. never-trumper! I mean talking about turning to the dark side. Talk about turning to the dark side You Got Michael Steele out here? Suggesting that the troops being sent out. Could be racially motivated. Citizens important will decide relative to their elected officials whether they appreciate the ongoing protests, since May, twenty fifth dashing on local decision. That's the, Donald. Trump can sit back and be dismayed. Donald trump can be concern, but unless the governor calls him and says look I need. Help US Day your behind. That's how this works. That's how it has worked. When you look at federal intervention, it is because it has been asked for and appreciated and welcomed by the local the state officials who have a problem they cannot manage. That's not the case. Orleans is certainly not the case. In Chicago, and what the President is doing is stoking a law and order mean to peace dot, not you know those folks, but the those white citizens who look at these places, these largely black and Brown cities, urban centers, says Oh. My God. We've got to do. Something Mr President and he's like I'm here to the rescue. Okay Hondo no second now. We had Michael Steele. Max still say that he's doing this for to white folks who like law and order, not not the black folks own like law and order see. This is what this is what he's suggesting. See Black people like chaos. It's a white folks in the suburbs at like law and order. Thank you Ross. That's this little racist. Michael Steele. And then you talk about the crowds out. The Black Cross does are not black people writing out in Portland. Those are white kids. MOSTLY ANTIFA? But see they're trying to try to give you this narrative, but then you civil is lying to me. These are white people in Portland. Who are creating all this havoc and Michael Steele President? Trump can send troops out if they are destroying federal property. How come they're not bringing these things how come they're not telling you the truth about this federal property. Michael Steele. That's what the president is out there protecting these mayors. You've got to lightfoot out there in Chicago New People getting shot up at funerals broad daylight. She's talking about so. What are we will sue? President trump if he brings his troops. His troops into the most dangerous city in the country, the nation's worst mayors oversee the nation's most violent cities sent a letter to Congress complaining that President Trump is ruining their election riot here. We need these riots to advance our narrative. They're calling for an investigation into federal officers arresting. For attacking federal buildings. You can't. You can't make this up. You got the mayors of Portland Seattle Chicago DC Atlanta and Kansas City. They wrote the letter to Congress arguing that there nightly riots and bloodshed are made worse by president. Trump because federal police aren't nice to the rioters. Whereas the mayor of Portland, who's also the police commissioner orders his kneeling? To to Spec to just gotTA. Just be expected the violence, the federal police use tear gas to back the rioters away from federal property. The investigate arrest and charge the the perpetrators of the violence. That's what they did. Meanwhile? The Portland police were kneeling. She just. Portland is the eighth during their eighth straight week of rioting. And ANTIFA black lives, matter groups comprise mostly of devoutly anti-american Communists and anarchists. Militants holed nightly riots to burn penalize in terrorize Portland. I mean it's. It's almost like a civil war. Should we call it a low level civil war? And these groups some of them have been designated domestic terrorist groups. But they are the shock troops of the Democrat Party, can we? Go with just understand that what the KKK wants to the Democrats yesterday. Are What N. for Embiid L. M. R. to the Democrats today. At you notice, there have been no high profile Democrats. That have attacked that have criticized ANTIFA. In fact, Nancy Pelosi dismissed the attacks statues as as people are doing. are going to do what they do as we said people. Guy. To do. What they what they do. And what they do is crazy. There is a new phenomena with black lives. Matter you have a white ladies? White women. Are Are. Have lost. White women have lost their way in this new movement and we're going to talk about that at eight eighteen. Listening to the the circus I. Am Your Ringmaster JC Harris? Black lives matter. They're revealing the lot. They're revealing their true colors. Can I say that I just did? The black lives matter movement and the subsequent riots by Antiga. He's are the Democrat Party's domestic terrorist arm, and they've shown Americans. What left left of left lefty leftist. Is. Is All about. We got an ugly combination. Bhagat, a government coercion be got racism got violence. We got anti-americanism. It's also revealed that the American left has been using blacks as a vehicle for political power without any regard for actually improving the lives of black people. That's why black lives matter is a big fat lie. Instead. The left destroys black communities and doubles down on. Damaging were damaging policies. And there's not a lot of people pointing out. That the the way L. in protests. Have revealed the damage you know of. Of of. Messaging is also had a very powerful impact a negative impact. On White Women. White women are out and B. L. M. and they are protesting and they are marching. And they're getting up in people's faces now the video. Out there were of a young. American of. European descent. Is She has popping off in the face of black police officers, their plaque police officers. That one, not two nothing four of them. And they're standing there and they're just. Taking it. Question for you. You're wasting your time this the two. Officers. See the problem with a little bit. because. You know what job because I'm white and I haven't experienced racism. Myself doesn't mean I can't fight for. That part of the. Best part of the problem. Doesn't mean not a part of the problem. Too whoever. The White Person The. Problem. Fix. It's crazy. You also have a. what's this group? white mothers. This is out in Portland White women is a group of MOMS. They're chanting fed. Stay. Clear moms are here. Fat Stay Clear MOMS are here. Too White women were they at the end. The street protests blm. Some of the MOMS. We're down at the at the riots trying to break into the courthouse. They're right with them. HASHTAG ANTIFA HASHTAG PORTLAND MOMS. What is going on? We're talking about liberalism. Liberalism here is corroded and you had. This is not a one off i. mean you have many instances of white women trying to get up and black votes face yelling about black lives matter especially they have been black folks face of the people. Who are you know, not download black lives matter. Trying to argue with them. It's the oddest thing and then you see this confused. Look on people's face when black lives matter anti for folks were down there spray painting up in Minneapolis. The Black Way Hey. Hey, stop that. They think we did that. Don't do that. When American of African descent said I was coming here to be to be a nerd, and you know at this to my collection of state capital Selfie do I'm just running around taking pictures. Then, he ran to some black matter. Protesters said no black people here. What are you? What are we watching? We're watching liberalism. It doesn't have to make sense. was what it is exposing though it's frenzied, white women, taking the lead in the black lives matters movement. They're deeply involved in this movement and deeply evolved in the ugliest way possible. and therein lies the sad sad tale. Of the leftist takeover? Of. White women. I'm telling you. It's crazy, but it is fueling. It is fueling of the upcoming election. We're going to talk to Dr Kelli Ward. At Eight, thirty, three, a getting ready for the primaries, my friends. Host the president's private number Sean Hannity does catch him this afternoon from one until four five fifty KFI and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You're listening to the conservative surface. Win Master James Paris got elections coming up in a couple of weeks in the center ring of the conservative circuits. We have Dr Kelli Ward. She is the chairman of the easy. Gop and Dr Ward a welcome. We Have A. we have a lot going on in the state I just wanted to check in with you to see how things are going and what we should be looking out for. A LOW MR beautiful man. It is always great to be on with you and let you and the people who are listening know about what's going on in politics here in Arizona as everybody can probably tell all the political life is heating up more and more commercials on television on radio in your email boxes on your tax. Believe it or not this. Sunday marks one hundred days until the biggest election of our lives Fisher James T Harris. We know you know. We heard many elections. Elections in the past that we always hear that twenty, sixteen super consequential, but this election is going to determine if we continue down a path of prosperity, we continue with President Trump's America first agenda that has given us really record low unemployment historic, amazing job growth, and also don't forget the safety at home and abroad, or are we going back? Are we going backwards regression to the bad old days of Obama and buying where eight years we suffered with worsening racial tensions Astronomically, high unemployment. Stagnant wages and and watching our jobs get shipped overseas to China. I think that these next one hundred days. They're gonNA. Determine the direction. Our country goes in, and it really could all come down to what happens here in Arizona. You know Dr Ward when you go to the list of accomplishments that the president has over s over the last three and a half years. It really is nothing less than miraculous that he was able to do that while he was under constant attack from the Democrats, not just the Democrats, but also the media. You've got these. The ANTIFA groups out there that are well funded, I mean it has been nonstop constant pressure against this president and yet he's been able to spend. Keep these these plates. And he's had some major accomplishments both domestic and international. Oh Yeah I a thousand percents. that has happened and that's why politicians and I'M GONNA I'm gonNA use that kind of as a a bad word you know politicians don't like President Trump Democrat. Politicians alike Joe Biden Nancy Pelosi. all these people who have been in Washington DC or you know four or five decades forty or fifty years. You know basically the adult life span of probably most people that are listening to this show right now. They've been in Washington DC. They did nothing other than pander to their base pay. make promises that they never intended to keep, and and when they see president trump delivering on the promises that he made promises made promises kept. Look it up on on. On the on the Internet, and see the vast list of accomplishment every single year, despite all of that negativity and I know I told you that that everything could come down to Arizona really. We have got to win Arizona and I'm so confident that Arizona's. They're gonNA reward this president for all the hard work that he and his administration have done with four more years in the White House, so we can keep America great, not only for up, not only for our here right now, but also so we can give jobs and opportunity to our children, our grandchildren that not so that they are given something, but so that they can chase the opportunity of the great American dream. We have of the primaries coming up, the ballots are coming in. What's your sense of from the from the ground level? What is happening right now locally with with with these elections? Yeah. It's unbelievable that we are less than two weeks of lay from the Tuesday August fourth primary It's been since really exciting for me to watch actually been so nice to not be running for office this time and actually be helping Republican candidates across the board to be able to get their message out over these last several months, and you know I. Know I know what they're feeling like right now in these last days before the election. You know wondering if they're going to be the ones who get to be the Republican nominee. We all know that everyone can't win. We are Republicans. We believe in. In competition, and then rewarding the victor with the spoils, we don't believe in a blue ribbon for every single person like the Democrats do but I will tell you that all of those Republicans who are out there from the school board level all the way up to the president of the states they are pushing a message of faith, family and freedom. They're touting things that make our country great like low taxes, small government, personal responsibility and following our constitution, so that makes every single one of them in my book winners. Now I will tell you that come August fifth the United, the Republican Party of. Of Arizona and the Republican Party across the United States is going to unite behind our Republican candidate so that we can fight the true political adversary that we have out there the Democrats because they they want things that are very very bad for our country, so remember this if you haven't really balanced and you need to get it there before August fourth, drop it off at an early voting location before July twenty nights. Make sure that you get it in the mail, so that arrived at the at the Elections Department no later than seven PM on August fourth. You cannot drop your ballot in the mail. Mail on August fourth your vote will not be counted. We have information at AV GOP DOT ORG and gop dot vote. You can find out where you're voting center is you can find out about candidates that are out there across the board. You can also find out on social media. We're keeping things up to date at a the GOP on twitter and Instagram at Arizona Gop on facebook. Join US stay informed. Get your vote in before the fourth, and then get ready. Get ready to unite. Get ready to rumble. Get ready to win in November. That is Dr. Kelli Ward from the A Z. P. She's absolutely right. Whoever comes out of these primaries? We have to get behind them and we have to push them across the finish line. I one hundred percent agree with Dr Ward. We are in a battle here. And This is going to be the most important election. This is the most important election season. We've never seen anything like this. Not In the last hundred years. We've got the left trying to use the pandemic. We've got all kinds of obstacles. We have to get over, but we but we will. And I have to be honest with you in some ways. The. Let is making it easy for us. It's here this morning. At nine fifty on five fifty K. of why don't FM Ninety five point five HD tooth? Listening to certain Cirque, decide and your room master Jay to various. The Democrats are making it easier. Easier. I was a easy but easier for for Republicans. because. They're investing in all of the wrong things. They're investing in the violence. They're investing in racism. And it's backfiring because we're looking at something. That's completely opposite. They want to call it a black lives matter, but I'm sorry. This, is the bulk of the people who are walking under the B. l. m. banner right now are white people. WanNa. Say is peaceful protesting, but I'm sorry. We've had we've had people murdered and chop? In these occupied zones, we're watching Portland Burn. And is not America's of African descent that are out there marching. and. Then we have craziness going on with our elected officials. Take New York. Because at one time New, York was the epicenter. Of the Cova a pandemic. We can look. Great how they did! In New York did a horrible job and yet the media is trying to change the paradigm. They're telling us that the news reported earlier is wrong. More. People died from New York City, they make up almost half of the people who died in this country. And, we had a lot of deaths because of move that the governor made. And we've seen the city and the services breakdown under their mayor. Brewer watching the the daily violence were watching him painting black lives. Matter would other a racist on the streets of New York. We're watching crime spike in New York City. We're watching the the mayor. Basically. Take sides you citing up with the rioters against the police. He's created a hostile environment in the city. And yet when you ask him. Why there's been a spike why there's been a breakdown. Mayor de Blasio speaks nonsense. We've been the safest big city in America for years. We've had a very tough few months. No doubt and it is directly related to the coronavirus dislocation. It's caused in our society. The fact our court system is not functioning yet so many factors that have been absolutely ad for just the last four or five months, but we will beat it back because we've done that for a quarter century in this city and Joe, the key point is we will do it. That was a bill de Blasio, in the morning Joe. Blaming the virus for the spike in crime. Blaming the virus. Would the virus infect them all of sudden turn people into criminals. Did the virus infect people in turn into like Zombie looters. The lawlessness that is exploding and in New York, city and other cities, blue cities across this country I, because of the feckless leadership, feckless leadership. We also have to acknowledge the fact that the that the Mayor de Blasio was anti police when he was elected. Yes, a lot of this is. The citizens fought. For electing. Such an ASS hat. This look at Governor Cuomo. Who mismanaged who wind throughout the whole pandemic of how he needed bedspace. How need respirators whatever you needed? He caught up the White House and the trump administration gotta what he needed. Now he complains. Now, he blames a the Washington response for the pandemic. People are fleeing. New York City. My son in beautiful wife are out there. They can't wait to get out. People are relocated. People are going upstate. People like you know. What if I don't have to go to work with now. We're doing teleworking anyway. Why would I want to be in this wretched played with these wretched people who are not controlled? But instead of telling the truth about that. Andrew Cuomo the governor of. I'm not say degrade the Governor of New York. Gives, give the people the whammy kiss. The problem is you have it? Increasing now in forty states across the nation. How do you keep the virus in forty states coming from New, York? We now have people coming to New York? Fleeing the other states. Because, quote, safe state. No, they're not so we have people coming here. Just for the purpose of fleeing the virus in their state, people are fleeing New York really the only answer is. Those other states have to get the virus under control. People are fleeing New York. They're they're fleeing the city specifically. But they're fleeing the region I mean listen. The people are people, this virus and more important. The government response is having people fleeing blue states red states. We're seeing a home sales up some areas where there's more freedom and dropping and others. It is the covert phenomena. And, it also reflects the Democrats and I'm telling you. Even some polls now starting to show some closure between a Joe Biden and and president trump. But I'm telling you. There is nothing right now. There's nothing on the agenda. There's nothing I can see. That is drawing people to the Democrat Party outside of hatred for the president. And I don't think that's enough. God, help us if it is. At nine three. We are going to talk about President Trump's press conference yesterday a how he is pushing back. Ross GonNa. Talk about a virus misinformation of going on out there as well. President trump. Puts out a clear Bishop Ford Nation. As a gentlemen children of all ages. To kind of serve. Circus Harris we're getting into the election season. We had Comey Ward, the head of the GOP on earlier and yeah Sunday. We're one hundred days out. Hundred days out, no, it doesn't seem like this. We are getting inundated with the commercials. But the world is still kind of weird. The world is still kind of upside down. Because of the government's response to the COVID pandemic. Joe Biden he is, he's doing his campaigning of very very tightly controlled no crowds they could. They could use a covert as an excuse not to be in front of people. But even with that being tightly controlled. He's just not off of there. where it's president trump. If the report, they have questions, he'll be the last man standing. He'll answer all of their questions such a stark contrast to previous administrations. At oppressor yesterday, president trump laid out. What I thought was a very clear vision for this country. It was almost goose pimple because this president is all about America. America. must a sanctuary for law abiding citizens, not criminal aliens. My Vision for America's cities could not be more different from the lawlessness being pushed by the extreme radical left. While want to de-fund, defame and abolish the police I want to support an honor. Our great beliefs while the radicals want to abolish charter schools and eliminate school choice. I want to expand school choice. Every family in America should have that option while others want to destroy opportunity shutdown businesses and send our jobs overseas. We are hiring Americans and we are buying American product. To build factories in Baltimore Not Beijing we WANNA. Make our products in Chicago. Not Shanghai. We want the American dream for American children and I will fight to deliver that dream every ounce every single out of my strength I will be fighting. I mean what what could you disagree with here? Comes down to this orange man bad. We have writing going on some of our cities. The president sending troops to protect federal property. He's being called A. A dictator with a private army nothing could be further from the truth. And if any of these blue state, governors or mayors had a brain in her head, they would ask president trump for helping. He would help them. Under Operation Legend we will also soon send federal law enforcement to other cities. That need help. Other cities need help. They needed badly. They should call. They should want it the too proud or their to political to do that. One of them is Albuquerque New Mexico, where less fall fifty five year old Jackie vehicle. Was Murder. She was getting into her car to go to the gym. Too Proud to ask for help. And you know why, because actually by asking for help. The worst mayors in America. would be a stopping their only true, but they see the to campaign pay a pledge, and that is to destroy trump, and they're willing to destroy you. If you, stop the riots you'll be. You'll be ruining their chances. And now you've got these mayors reaching out demanding that Congress stop trump from ruining their riots. They want these riots. It's amazing. You Got Ted Wheeler. He is the mayor of Portland. He actually got tear gas. He got teargassed because he was out there with the protesters. Can you imagine. He was with the protests, not telling them to stop. He was with the rioters, not telling them to stop. He was out the wisdom. So when the tear grads flu, he was caught up in it. Can you imagine what happens? If president trump was out at Charlottesville? Out Amongst, the protesters how would that be? How would that played out? What would the media said? Well what they have done? This is absurd. The double standard is crazy. Get elected officials out there with them. With, Antifa with B. L. Am. What would happen if a president trump down there? Painting the confederate flag in the middle of the street. What we're watching is insanity on the left. And I I just I happen to think that this is not going well for the Democrats. It can't be. People are not this insane, are they? Got! In waters. maxine waters saying that president trump is amassing his own troops. He did not contact the local mayors. It did that contact the governor's. He just sent them in. Who are these people? Why do they have these kinds of uniforms on where they can be agenda? Know their names. We don't have anything that identifies them. They have unmarked cars. They've been pulling people off the street and throwing them into these cars. I'M GONNA. Tell you joy. This is what you see in countries where you have dictators in third world, countries with dictators have. Military that they can cause against any time. As a matter of fact, it has been suggested that this trial run of the president of the United States. The organizing. To not accept what happens when we have the election if he's not elected. He won't leave the office, so he's putting together its own private troops like we're in a third world country I'll tell you what. The thing that makes us a third world countries the way the Democrats are behaving. They're they are the wants. They did not accept the fact that president trump beat. It'll be Clinton. They never accepted it. It was the first time in our nation's history that we did not have a peaceful transfer of power I. Want you to let that settle in. It's the Democrats that have been in the resistance. Moat is the Democrat that have their own private army called ANTIFA and B.. l., M. that are wreaking havoc. And then blaming it on trump. Everything they accuse. President trump. or or threatening to do they've already done. Yet the president, still winning I. Tell You what. I! Tell you what? At nine eighteen. President trump. Said something to me. That was so. So in your face. So in your face. And it was directed at Democrats, but it was also directed at the black community. I'M GONNA. Tell you what he said. And tell you why I think. It was a masterstroke at nine eighteen. You are listening to conservative circus. Ringmaster Gypsy her. Foolish maybe I'm blind and cannot see through this. Someone behind got wait brew President Trump. Yesterday said something that was so in your face. Remember back in twenty sixteen. He was in Detroit and he addressed the Americans of African descent. He said well. What do you got to lose? What do you have to lose? What is the Democrats done for you lately? What what are you gotta live it at the time we we have a lot to lose. We have everything to lose. Said Black A democrats. Can say that today. I think not. President trump. When speaking about the black Americans. Said this? Prior to the China plague coming in floating in coming into our country and really. Doing terrible things all over the world doing terrible things, we had the best. African, American Hispanic, American, Asian American. Almost every group was the best for unemployment. The unemployment numbers with Best you look at, say you look at employment you look at opportunities zones, and maybe most importantly you look at criminal justice reform. You look at prison. Reform I've done things that nobody else and I've said this and I say it openly. Not a lot of people dispute it. I've done more for black Americans than anybody with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln Welby as even been close. Off, That that. I've done more for black Americans since Lincoln. You know what he should do. President trump should get a bigger sign and say I've done more for black Americans than since Lincoln proved me wrong. Prove me wrong, Anybody. Come up, proved me wrong. They can't and that's what's so beautiful about about this comment. They can't. Now! He does prefaces before co visit. But even still. I mean this is coming back. The economy is coming back on Vk of able to come back wildly if Democrats were not sitting on it, if democratic governors and and governor Ducey were not sitting on it. But. That is one bold statement I've done more for black Americans since a link again. And it's a bowl because it's true and the things he lists off. Are things that that Barack Obama considered, but he didn't WanNa. See like he was like Ford Black. President, you know the president for black people, you might to be the president of all people, so he didn't take action. He didn't rewrite wrongs. and. That's why many Americans of African descent as watch Joe Biden a watch a barack. Hussein Obama did I moved. He doesn't have that the magic. You've lost that love They don't have it. They. Don't have the tingle going down the leg. Chris math is not even around anymore. That's why gun sales spiked twenty twenty driven by new purchases by black men. and. Women. Women. Gun sales have spiked. They're up overall the MSCI ninety five percent over this time last year. An ammunition sales were up one hundred and thirty nine percent. In the largest increase in gun sales by demographic, came from blacks up fifty eight percent, and from women at where the white women at their at a gun store down at tombstone tactical. We had a record ten point three million firearms a purchase in the first half of twenty twenty. That's crazy. The highest overall firearm sales increases come from Americans of African descent. And folks should not be surprised by this. When as the police are the scream to de the police? As we have neighborhoods that are being abandoned. People are starting to realize they are responsible. For themselves. This is a good thing. that. People are arming themselves. You've got major terrier, my Cherie. He's the founder of black guns. Matte black guns matter. And he promotes African American gun ownership, and he spends time advocating a firearm, owners, ownership and teaching, gun, safety and urban and minority communities. This is a good thing. People Somehow forget that we have the right to defend ourselves with firearms Tori set. You also national, African American Gun. That's OC and it boasts memberships about fifteen thousand new members at twenty twenty so far. said a lot in our community a lot of times in our community. We hear a lot about from our politicians. Fortunately, they don't have a gun. You need a gun. To learn how to responsibly. Handle, one. This development is happening because people are looking at Democrats. They're looking at Democrat run cities, and just how long this is lawlessness just running rampant, so they gotta protect. Themselves is the great thing. We're GONNA talk about how the cancer culture has taken out. A liberal icon, an icee, a man and Boom Shacklock A. Coming up next, you'll take me places debts. Excuse to? Listen today at ten on five fifteen KFI and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the CONSERVA. Your Rig J. to harass. The Washington redskins got chancellor. Cancer Culture came after them. Schneider the owner of the team folded. And now we have a new name. For The Washington redskins until further notice they will be known as the Washington football team. They Washington football team. It's Kinda catchy. Has a ring to it well, the can't be called. The redskins be called the Redskins, and they have an approved a new name so on have won. The Washington football team. The team do the Washington football team formerly known as Redskins. Just to work it in there. There is another organization that got canceled a least their founder. This is an amazing story. The Cancer Culture has hit planned parenthood. What yes? The founder of planned parenthood has been canceled. Planned parenthood a greater New York. The affiliates of one of the nation's largest abortion corporation announced. It is removing the name of Margaret Sanger due to her quote, harmful connection to the eugenics movement harmful connection. Well this evolving Margaret Sanger Comes A. Little late decades late considering that everyone familiar with this woman. With her notorious history. is well aware that that Margaret Sanger is racist at Ray, sets. Given that the black lives matter doctrine has been pushed to the forefront of America's politics. SANGER's racist business model of exterminating the black race from American society has now been called out. Did a video on this ten years ago. He's longer. First Youtube videos. A Margaret, sanger planned parenthood. How could people support this knowing the history? That hundreds of planned parenthood employees donors volunteers demanding that she be renounced. Isn't that Kinda crazy. This woman is responsible for forty five years of infant genocide in America. And as held as a feminist. She's the victim of America's raging canceled culture. At one point in our history Margaret. Sanger not only became the voice for birth control in the United States. Enabling the legislation of birth control mandates. But only promoted the eugenics ideology and frequently gave speeches discussing the proposal of eliminating unwanted people. She was like Hitler. She believed in a master race. which only the genetically pure should be allowed to live? She openly associated with racists and Anti Semites, and she routinely attacked the Catholic Church for its anti conceptions stance contraception, she she she was against that or say she was like against the church. She was just people having kids. She gave a lot of speeches on the subject. She spoke before a racist. She spoke before the KKK Women's group in Nineteen Twenty Six. She called blacks degenerates. described him as lesser humans. She endorsed the sterilization other disabled, and the intellectually challenged for decades. Planned parenthood bestow was annual Margaret Sanger award upon you know, a people a selected for their leadership. They're excellent contribution to women's reproductive health. It's just a bunch of reproductive health. Hillary Clinton. Nancy Pelosi. They were recipients. have any of them. Ever acknowledged Margaret Sanger's despicable racist ideology. Will I these women returned their. They're planned parenthood there. Margaret Sanger Award. Amazing? The canceled culture has caught up to black lives matter. We're GONNA. Talk about the teachers, not wanting to go back to school of. That's coming up next. Driving left nuts. That's why we'd love. Rush this morning at ten on five fifty K. of why and on FM at ninety five wait five hd two. You're listening to these two of Circus I. Am Your Ringmaster? James T harassed her from a friend. He said yet. Sanger Margaret Sanger cancelled next. We'll be Darwin Charles. Darwin who believed that whites particularly European whites were superior to the black races now right now, Darwin his todd in every public school. Talk about your systematic racism. What an outstanding observation! Charles Darwin! And the whole evolution. It should be cancelled. Because he was a racist. Speaking of a a taught in school. Nothing's being taught in school, and if the Arizona teachers have their way. They'll be no school. Maybe school's out forever. Schools out for summer. Maybe he's not going to be forever. Teaches across Arizona stage motor marches to protest school reopenings. Oh, yeah. The also have signs I'd rather see your kids on a laptop than on a ventilator. Talk about ignoring the science. Teachers are not martyrs is another side. Eight Z number one covid. Yet another side. 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WWE RAW 1-19-15 (Sting's RAW Debut)

83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

2:20:46 hr | 1 year ago

WWE RAW 1-19-15 (Sting's RAW Debut)

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It's like seven degrees is there and nasty and we're looking forward to getting back but I have to admit do not do not eight this weather so awesome and it's fun hanging out with their kids and all the stuff that comes along with it so we're good how about you. I'm great man and I'm on cruise control because Valentine's Day is already taken care of thanks to I hate Stephen Singer. Dot Com We've talked a lot about the deeply dipped twenty four karat roses. You can get an. I Hate Stephen Singer DOT com. But let me just say. They have made Valentines Valentine's Day a no brainer because they've got a brand new color. It's rose rose gold rose. A gold rose a rose. Gold Gold rose. I can't believe this is real really think about this guys. It's a real long-stem American beauty rose preserved and completely dipped in a paint gold finish. It's called rose gold old. You get the same lifetime guarantee. It's fast and free. It's great customer service. 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It's two hours ten minutes fire up your wwe network and go to raw which is easy. It's on your little top bar of your network of in two thousand fifteen. Scroll down to January Nineteenth Twenty fifteen a very special role reunion so lots of stars on this show. We'll talk about the news and notes leading into it and get Eric's real life reaction to watching how they debut staying on Monday night raw. What a weird an interesting resting time to be a wrestling fan? So without further ado I'm GonNa go ahead and Verify with Eric that we're all on the same page. But you need to have the network. I pulled up now Eric. Are you ready. I'm ready man. That's so we're going to do a quick count down three two one play and when I say play you'll press play if you're watching on a computer you'll see when you first opened it up. GIVES YOU SKIP intro option on the bottom right. We're not going to do that. We're going to start at absolute zero zero zero zero zero zero and we're going to go with a play in three two one play here. We go three two one play. Eric I love the signature. Open the van now forever. Feels like it's a big part of WB. And I love especially since they've got everything on the network now embracing all of the old stuff off. I think this is a clever little. Open what you've never talked about this. What do you think about that concept? I've always loved A. I've always loved this kind of an open when you pay homage to the legends. And and the icons that somebody people remember from different heirs of their fandom and I just think it's a really classy way to do it and to open a show just makes it feel important in and it makes everything that you're about to see kind of feel important and so I I dig it I I liked the the open with Martin Luther King Clips. Of course this episode aired on Martin Luther King Day which today is actually five years ago and today same same. Same Martin Luther King Day here. Lynch McMahon. He gets this one right. I feel like sometimes. Maybe maybe they don't pay enough tribute here or there But clearly he had a lot of respect for Martin Luther King he did any any does to to this day when I was there this past summer for few months There is more than one occasion. Where Vince Made a comment meant out of respect for Martin Luther King so I I know. It's it's genuine with with Vince. So this is going to be an interesting show. We've got all the news and notes sort of leading into this show WWe would formally announce in mid-january that wrestlemainia thirty two WRESTLEMANIA. We're going to be talking about next year so not this year as you may remember this year is going to happen out in California But here they're talking Kinda about running at Cowboys Stadium April Third Twenty Sixteen and they're going to boldly stated their goal at this press. Conference saying they're going to pack the place with a hundred and five thousand thousand fans which would be a record that would easily eclipse wrestlemania three. That's the big announcement but you're going to hold a Wrestlemainia in Dallas. And I guess you know if you had your druthers and Tom was an aide. Weren't really a thing. It would have been pretty cool to see sting Mike. His wrestlemania debut in Dallas but We see it and said half an hour in California. What do you think he would have been so bold to try to run a big football? Oh stadium like that for a lot like and obviously you did a lot of stuff at the The Georgia Dome and a few other domes. But a hundred and five thousand people my goodness us. Yeah I don't I don't think we would have attempted that. Look even at the peak of WWE's success with Nitro and let's call it nineteen ninety-seven probably we would be the peak. I guess in terms of drawing an audience both on television pay per view and in our live audience. We wouldn't have gotten anywhere close to a wrestlemainia muscle media type. Number resume isn't event in and of itself meeting. Even if you're a very passive wrestling fan when wrestlemainia comes to town on you're going to go You may not watch the show every week. You may not by a lot of the other pay per views. You may check in with the product every once in a while but when wrestlemainia muscle mania comes around. It's it's a big damn deal. It's it's much like the Super Bowl super bowl the NFL super bowl is become an event unto itself and and even passive football fans. It will drop into a Russell. Excuse me to a super bowl. you go to the soup. I was in supermarket the other day and everywhere you look. There's you know super bowl type of promotions going on within the store and and I think Wrestlemainia is maybe not quite popular. But it's damn close so to answer your question. We would have never tried to to attempt to anything that Bay because it wouldn't have worked for US starting the show with the big bang brock listener out. I I. It's funny to think how much the wrestling business has changed in five years but I it's like the old The cliche the more things change the more they stay. The same here comes Branca's with the championship. But of course his advocate Paul Heyman. It doesn't look or feel all that different by the way. This is very much a twenty fifteen fifteen week. Here on my stringer podcast. Tomorrow with aren't Anderson. We'll be covering the royal rebel. Twenty fifteen which is the pay per view that happened just six days after this and unfortunately begins I think most degree in hindsight now a comedy of errors with the way they were handling handling Roman reigns Roman reigns is going to win that rumble and good booed out of the building. I think a lot of W fans or on the Roman reigns train and still until until it started to feel like he was sort of being pushed down our throats a little bit an even saw the open of this show the signature for raw. He is the last character that you see before. The BIG PYRO and the introduction of the talent opened the show in the little bit that you've kept up with WWe in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen twenty sixteen twenty seventeen era. Did you have an opinion as to whether or not they were perhaps ups handling Roman reigns the right way. No I did and I would agree I still do. It's really interesting. Wrestling fans are very very interesting audience in that first of all. They're smart you know they they know what you're doing. They know what you're trying to do. They know when you're pushing a character in you've got to be very cognizant that you're not pushing him down their throat in that's not just true with with regard to Roman reigns here in two thousand fifteen or whenever it was It's it's true across the board you've got it's gotTa happen. Organically the audience has got you have to be aware I think as a producer promoter. Whatever you WANNA call it? You've got to be aware and have a sense. That's of the audience's desire and tease them with a character. If you have somebody I'll take Roman reigns his name out of it but if you have character a that you really think is marketable you really think is going to be your next John. CENA's Stone Cold Steve Austin Rock Hulk Hogan reflect. You name it if you have that character you really. I believe in it. I think position that character in a way that the audience is dying to see that character. Make that next big move and become the face the company. That's how it works in. If you step over that line and you push it too hard and you try to expedite it or you try to force feed it or speed it up. Whatever you WANNA WANNA call it and you do it before the audience is ready? They'll turn on you. They just will and it's hard to turn them you know once they've developed opinion collectively that Oh my God. They're pushing the wrestler down our throat. They want this guy to be are the next phase of the company speak. They'll they'll fight it with everything they've got and we've seen it over and over and over yet. I think racing racing fans in my opinion. I I've read. I've heard I've listened to people face to face. Talk to me about who should get a push who should get get a push and how hard they should be pushed and once damn once they make up their minds. It's really hard to convince them. Otherwise I think the mistake that they made with Roman reigns was pushing him too hard too soon in a direction that the audience really didn't want him to go in the same thing happened to John Cena to a degree Johnson I seen it was able to overcome it. WWE was able to overcome it But you know a number of times when you're just pushing somebody that the audience audience doesn't really accept as you see here where Eight minutes into the show and triple H is coming coming out to interrupt the Promo of brock listener where brock and interrupted is Advocate and. He's calling out seth rollins but instead part of the authority triple H is out. I feel like for a long time right or wrong. Triple H started Monday night raw with a long promo segment and an almost became formulaic. Whereas almost they just said we saw a lot of NITRO? 's start with the loser doors. We see a lot of Monday night. Rawls start where the promo particularly with triple H in hindsight have big of a of a of a hindrance. Do you think that is for frustrated or lapsed fans that it feels a little sane and there's a sameness with the show starting with the Promo every single week. I think it's true. And that's one of the I don't want to call it a critique I'll call it an observation but that's one of the the observations I had about wwe in general well For a long time is that it is gray's they are and they are. I WANNA prothesis in and make sure I'm clear about this. This is not a criticism. This is just a perspective based on my tastes but when show becomes so formulaic as you pointed out when the format become so standard and you see the same thing especially in a live action. Live event. Show like Monday night raw nitra was And you see the same basic open you see the same clothes you see the same talent you see the same style of interviews. Nothing really ever changes I. It's boring and in and kill that desire that you want to develop it in the audience. Too old man. I can't wait to see what happens next week because you know what's going to happen the next week. It's the same thing. Basically that happened the week before. And that's that's one observation out of criticism. I have of the show now. Look it's working very well for for. WWe It has for a long time. I think even now you watch the show and there's just a sameness to it. There's a filter. That's that exists assist within the creative process and in order for ideas concepts formats shows to get through that filter and make it to your. TV screen They end up it being so similar in so many ways that it's hard to get excited about it. I got to tell you this version of Kane Corporate Kane. A really really enjoyed horse. The authority here is made up of Stephanie and triple H and then they've got a lot of folks under their employees here so you see their quantum quantum quote heavy is GonNa Knock you out as big show but Kane in a suit one of the many different versions cain instead it's behind the scenes we know at this point that he's got political aspirations not yet the mayor but we know now he is. It's a fun it adds another dimension to Glenn Jacobs I actually clean joy. It either to talk a little bit about Glenn Jacobs here for a moment Glenn a little bit. You know not real well. We didn't hang out after shows and that type of thing but we did a lot of I should say a lot. We did several promotional appearances together. Radio shows together and things like that promoting different effort events and came. Glenn Jacobs I think is probably one of the smartest people intelligent people. Well read people When it comes to history and politics that I've ever met in the wrestling business? He's very very intelligent. Guy Really really a humble guy easy to be around fun to work with Can't say enough great things about clinic and and I'm glad he's he's worries at As As mayor because he's a very political guy but a very very smart and balanced individual. Can't say enough. Good things about him. I did you take choke slammed from that. Broke my hand. But that's another story. That's the shame the the broke your hand. Because how are you gonNa Trim all your junk. Listen Up Valentine's Day is just around the corner and you don't WanNa be that guy with the bullish or that nerd or cut his ball prior to getting it on whether you have Valentine's Day or not what you need to be prepared to look good down there and support for eighty. Three weeks is brought to you by manscaping and we already know the best. Men's below the belt grooming see manscaping escaped offers precision engineer tools for your family jewels. And that's why manscaping has redesigned the electric trimmer. 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McMahon's face it's almost like she's hearing your read the most Hilarious Shit. I think I've seen it a long time. It is so funny as you're talking about nicking you're nuts and Stephanie. McMahon's eyebrows raised. Gets this look at her face. And it's just hilarious. Please do it. You'll be you'll be glad you did. You can thank me later. I I WANNA point out. We are now fifteen minutes and thirty seconds. CNN people four still talking. No one has touched yet. There's no they probably have. It really said all that much either. I mean fifty. You Know Promo House in my opinion just my opinion and believe me. I've I've made this mistake. I've done it the wrong way. I've I've gone out there babbled for too long L.. I do it on this show. You get caught up in the moment I guess but for Promo to to go on for six or eight or ten twelve minutes it better have a hell of a Finnish a promo. In my opinion it should be based on a three act structure. You're just like any good book and a good movie and television commercial. Any good infomercial whenever it is you have a beginning middle and an end and a promo. If you're going to spend this much time on a pro. It better means something big by the time you get to the end of it or you just you kill your audience. Because it's Chit people come because they want to see action they WANNA see conflict. I WANNA see the resolution of the conflict. They don't WanNa get lectured to and that's what these promos sometime and again. I'm not being critical. I'm talking about in general not this particular Promo by the way because I can't even hear it could be a great problem on. It could be a great three structure within this Promo. I don't know I can't hear it but generally speaking if you're going to be out there for eight ten twelve minutes by God it better be entertaining retaining. There is one entertaining thing that Seth says here he says you know John. CENA is going to Tuck his leg between between his legs and Saint plays into that misstatement and says I don't know how I'm going to talk my leg between my legs so I love that that John is very comfortable with this process and he had a lot of fun as guys would get nervous and Maybe say the wrong thing here. He had no problem exploited again. He was so comfortable on the Mike. I mean it's hard to compare anybody To the rocks and Austin's is just based on their their star level in the perception from the fans of their star level. But when it came to you know giving Gosh it on the Mike John Seen Zina's probably one of the more underrated performers role. Tom and I mean that says I mean obviously in fact later today. I'm taking Some kids They're not really related to their my daughter-in-law's nephews but I'm taking a four of them to go. See the doctor doolittle movie that Jonathan is in. Were soon as I'm done with this podcast. We're GONNA be over to the movie theater this morning and John. He may not be at that rock status yet. He I don't know if he will be maybe he'll be bigger than who knows what what what the future holds. But he's a hell of an actor. He's having a tremendous amount of success in the movie industry. And I think one of the reasons and there's a lot of reasons for it obviously but going back to promos and listening in reacting. I think one of the things that you're talking about here with respect to Johnson is he listens. He's reacting to what the person he's in a promo with is saying oftentimes and I've I've experienced this so many times over the last thirty years you get out there especially with somebody who's nervous or somebody who's green gene or doesn't have a lot of experience on the Mike and they spent so much time memorizing what they're going to say that when they go out there to cut their promo they're not really really listening to what the per- the person who they're doing a promo with his saying they're they're they're focusing solely Leeann what they remember. They're supposed to say so in the case. Like you pointed out here with Seth rollins where he kinda steps on it and makes a blunder. If John had not been listening in reacting the way an actor should do to what Seth rollins was saying he would have blown right by that because he would. I've been thinking about what he's going to say next based on what John had memorized and I think that's one of the things that that talent today can do if they really want to improve their promos. It's not necessarily about always having really sharp. One liners and in in in in your delivery. Probably seventy five percent of what makes a good promo is your reaction to the person you're into Promo with in that's organic and natural unbelievable. The Promo comes off great. Otherwise you've got people out there just reciting dialogue that they memorize. And that's where you disconnect with the audience more often than not. So we're we're going. We're past twenty minute mark but hunter has just laid out the gauntlet that as as we saw at survivor series. A lot of guys lost their jobs because the authorities team won but John Xena has a chance to win those jobs back tonight because he's going to give him a match and if he wins Rybeck Eric Rowe and Dolph Sigler or hired back and if he loses then not only they still fired but seeing them we'll give up his opportunity to be in the triple threat match so those are stakes that have been established. The Lord Lorde has taken us twenty one minutes and counting to get here you just think about you know and I realized wrestling's changed raw. Think about the studio shows from the Wfan WCW the Saturday six five shows and. Yeah yes. There are a lot of promos on that show but man there was never a twenty minute horsemen promo. You know they yes. They would have a few minutes but twenty one minutes. It's absurd amount of time in the show. especially if you think about you know in the old school you know well we've got an hour long show and of course I. This is a different era. We've got a three hour all here. which is as we know sometimes shortage get through? I guess if you're trying to fill three hours of content fifty two weeks a year not counting all the other shows that you're doing just talking about rx all that can be quite the challenge as we get to the twenty two minute mark and it looks like we're finally finishing the segment a third of the show. You know in in the old our long win doing things would have been committed to this one segment and if you're not watching along with us if you're driving to work you're doing something else and not able to do the watch long as you were watching a John. Louisville April Mica Colin Booker. T. At the announced right square behind Michael's a a great shot of an N. W. O.. Shirt still one of the hottest pieces as a merchandiser. WWe Catalog to this day. Always makes me feel good. It's worth mentioning an interview reunion on this. You know something that stood out to me when they showed the announcer deaths you saw. JBL Left Booker. T. On the right and of course Michael Call right in the middle of things three-man desk you know. They have over over the years. Florida with two men in the booth remained on the booth but allegedly according to the rumor and Innuendo This week man saw the you know at overwhelming outpouring of support for Stewart Sky when he passed away in early January twenty fifteen and immediately. We made the decision that moving forward they needed to have. African Americans represented at the desk. And so if you go back and you look from about this show L. Forward. There's always been a black person behind the desk and in a few weeks ago now is we're recording this in twenty twenty now maybe a couple of months now. Do Madden was an African American commentator on Monday night raw. He of course suffered an attack. He was replaced by Samoa. Joe Joe and now raw looks like it may be the exception but that was something that Vince McMahon felt very very strongly about because Stuart Scott was very much A big part of of Sports Center and Sports Sports Casting and as the most prominent African American when when. ESPN sportscenter well. I sorta rausing prominence. They made quite the impression on them. God Vinci's attention and it's going to be an audible called from there on Bray Wyatt is. We're watching now making his way the ring with Daniel Bryan and it's amazing journey that Dan Bray Wyatt has been on having so so much success. Now with that fien character really fun watching that character. The fiend character evolve in developing developing. Really it's probably one of the hottest things in WWe possibly in the last four or five years from from my perspective. Business Wise. I I I. I don't have any inside information but just seeing the kind of reaction that it's been getting in merchandise information that I've read about publicly not privately obviously a really really successful character for wwe and happy for Bray. Wyatt looking at the crowd reacting Danube Ron. Here we're about eighteen months after he got Super Hot. Going back to Summer Slam the prior year when he finally even before Summer Slam but summer slam. It looks like they were finally going to pay it off. He was going to have his big moment as we know that didn't happen. That would've been summer slam 2013. Rather but going back even you know or or fast forwarding a little bit. We know that WRESTLEMAINIA in New Orleans the prior year became all about the Daniel Bryan show. It didn't feel like that was the original plan. Certainly it wasn't doesn't But they eventually caved and gave the audience what they wanted and as a result the fans have have really adopted Daniel Bryan as their guy we know oh that his title run in two thousand fourteen wasn't exactly what it could have been. He was injured had to take a break his title. Ron Cut short but now that he's back. The fans are excited that he's back and expect him to be the top guy we know that's going to lead to A questionable decision that they're gonNA make with the royal rumble fans really. They want Daniel Bryan and only Daniel Bryan to win the royal rumble in six days. And you see the reaction. He got coming out a true hero's welcome. It's interesting that they they put him in the first match on the show and not the first segment on the show But he'd worked hard to get this spot back in his connection with the audience is real and probably took a lot of training to get to this spot after a layoff like that. 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Something wrestle hear on Westwood One on Friday the question will come up. Hey Is there one character. You wish you could work with and produced segments for today in the more modern era and every time without exception it was Daniel Bryan Daniel Bryan. Sorry Bray Wyatt so I know for sure that he has had a lot of fun working with this character but I liked this sort of cult leader for the whole. I like even the the Hawaiian shirt and the interesting presentation with a lantern. The firefly's is on the audience. It's different man and it's so hard and wrestling because it feels like everything has been done. This at least feels different. That's I think you hit it right on the head you know. It's one of the biggest challenges today and in any wrestling cut just wwe certainly with wwe. Because I've got three hours on on on Monday night. Two hours on Friday night. Two hours on a Wednesday night. Although I you know next year I should say is a little different than obviously raw smackdown in its presentation. But it's so hard to come up either with characters or storylines or anything else that feels different than what you've been seeing for such a long time. That's a challenge. In the industry industry in part of it is just because there's been so much content over the last twenty years twenty five years and you look at it now how many hours of contents we have rustling content available available to viewers today. You've got three hours Monday night. Raw you at two hours for smackdown two hours for annex. T right Tuesday's show you've got the Well let's add it up that up so right just with wwe content. You've got a five seven hours. We've also got backstage. which is an hour along? Show on Tuesdays okay. So what are we up to eight hours now. So three plus one Is Four five six Seven eight. Yeah there's eight hours for sure now you better eat W W makes ten and impacts twelve twelve. You can't really count back. I mean you've got you've got to be you got to be a scientist to find it. They have kept up with that but their own access. Now which is at least a real channel pursuit before awarded mark. Pursuit is based out of Alabama. I national television station based out of Alabama and of course it's about hunting deer shit like that. Ah Somehow they had wrestling there. But just you're talking about major cable platforms. USA NETWORK TNT Obviously Fox network back. You know you've got ten hours of content each and every week available and with N it's great content. Don't get me wrong. I'm not being critical but the challenge that when you have so much content out there across the different platforms with the different wrestling. Companies is how do you how do you stand out how do you. How do you produce something? That doesn't create a feeling the audience. Oh that reminds me of this or that you know coming up with something. That's very unique. And I think that's why fiend characters working so well in addition to the fact that very wet. It's phenomenal piece. Italians were C in here in this match Daniel Bryan. He's a big big powerful awful guy but he moves like one hundred forty five pound college wrestler and he's a very quick fast powerful athlete and it to be able to come up with a character feel so unique. That doesn't feel like Oh. Yeah that reminds me of something else is a real challenge for anybody not in any wrestling company whether your talent whether you're a producer whether you own the company it doesn't matter it's a real challenge and I think that's one of the reasons why in in my opinion again just my opinion when people go back and they talk about the Monday night wars and what a great period of time all that was and I agree it was but it was. It was so great because we were able to do so. I say we I mean. WWE N. W. W. F. at the time now. WWe We're able to do so many things that nobody you never seen before and it just created such an intense interest in the business and now it's it's really hard to to to achieve that. How do you do anything that doesn't feel like you're just rehashing or doing something that's been done before? I think you know what we're seeing in. Today's environment is is. The athleticism is making up for a lot of that. There's a lot of pressure I think. On the talent in the ring to present the product in a way that looks unique and feels Neil's unique and and up the the risk factor if you will and the athleticism and what's going on in the ring but in terms of storylines and characters it's much harder to create something uplink doesn't feel like a rehash Cain does not feel like a rehash here corporate cain of course as we remember he used to be the tag partner and even tax champion with with Dan. Your brightest part of team hell no but now corporate gain here here to lay waste to Daniel Bryan I WanNa talk about you. Know the amount of content and wrestling something we were just talking about in a minute. I want to back up and talk about that again. But and Daniel Bryan Book He wrote about Well we'll talk about that another time. Because that's going to get us down a sidebar that no you'll enjoy but we may never get back on track if I talk about sun tanning ones on butthole and the let's talk about adding another show feels like not that long ago. You and I sat down here and reviewed the very first episode funder in fact it was earlier this month and when I sort of teased the idea the of hey time pathetically what do you think about the idea of a w looking at another show and then it was announced this past week when it was revealed that INEX- tea or not INEX- T. W. rather at signed a new contract with T. and T. that's going to guarantee that they're gonNA be around announced through two thousand twenty three and it was a significant money deal Well over a hundred million dollars. Guaranteed now and revenue and Forty some odd million dollars a year coming in for a W it was revealed that hey they're working on a second show seemingly would be taped on Wednesdays. Wednesday's be an hour long and Air On another day of the week somewhere on on Turner perhaps TNT but perhaps another turn channel. As soon as that bit of the announcement was released man. Our twitter blew up because you and I had just talked about it and you sort of warned and against that when he saw that announcement this week would you think well first of all I was really happy for everybody W I don't I don't know other than you. You know some of the talent. I don't know Tony Kahn. Of never met him never talked to them But obviously very happy for them and happy for the business in general because it's making the industry all that much healthier in certainly happy for all of the talented even the ones that I don't know because there's a there's a lot of talent that has a great place to work that might might otherwise not generally across the board very happy for them and for the business general. That's my first reaction. My second reaction is is this a lot. I don't know I have no idea what. Aws Goals are. I have no idea what Turner's goals or expectations. Czar with regard to the a e W brand and business. So you know given the fact that there's so much I don't know my opinion really isn't worth all that much. I just ensuring my own personal experience in that. If you don't have the right infrastructure and by infrastructure I mean budget and the and the talent to support it not just entering talent but outside of the ring talent whether it's your production team your post production team. Whatever all of the the elements that go into delivering a great product or building? A great business have to be there. And if you don't have that as was my case ace. WCW when we were launching thunder and the expectations were very high. From t s at the time you know Ted Turner wanted another other natural type of of of success for the TBS network. It wasn't just. Hey let's just put out another show and do the best we can it. There was a lot of expectations from Ted on thunder and we didn't have the infrastructure to pull it off. We stressed every part of our Business from the talent in the ring to the talent that's required to put the show on whether it's backstage production staff post production. Whatever it is we? We put a lot of stress on our infrastructure in it. It took a toll so my hope in you know. Is that with regard to another show for a w that number one. The expertise expectations from the network side of things are in line. And they're they're not OUTTA wack. They're not expecting too much at least not right away. I'm hoping that the infrastructure within aws can easily support another show without putting too hugh much burden on the talent and again. When I tell them tell them across the board in the ring out of the ring production and everything that goes along with it And I and I think the last part of my observation would be as we just said towers of wrestling available right now. Is there enough enough of an audience to date another hour. I mean how much is too much we've seen this. I think was sports in general. Where are you know? It's like Major League Baseball. For God's sake there's how many what four thousand games a year before you get into the playoffs basketball. I mean who really cares until you get into the latter part of the season Football is a little bit different because of the nature of the sport. But how how much can you sustain in the long term not Alan short-term but how much will the audience stay interested in ten hours eleven hours soon to be improbably more of wrestling content throughout the week. It just to me. I think you run the risk. Potentially I'm not saying it's going to happen. I hope it's not going to happen. But I think when there's that much content gotcha doubt there You run the risk of of losing that sense of man. I gotta tune in to see what's going to happen look at. WWe Let's she's WWe as an example. You got your three our show on Monday night. You got two hours on SPEC L. Let's leave next year out of the equation for a minute. You know. I think one of the reasons that were never going to see one of the only but one of the reasons we're never going to see you know raw delivering bring four or five six million viewers like they used to or smackdown delivering. I think was probably the the expectation going into the Fox seal of being able to deliver number three four five million viewers a week. Because you're on a network and you have a bigger audience potentially as a result of that one of the reasons that it's not happening. Rose numbers are flat. SMACKDOWN is for the most part flat even on the Fox network had barely gets bigger number than than raw on cable. And I think one of the reasons for that within. WWe Isn't because of the talent isn't because of the creative. It isn't because of anything other than factors just so much of it out there that as if you were you. You don't feel compelled to need tune in because you can watch something else two days later and that's pretty much the same thing or you can catch up online and find out what happened open into given match if you're interested in it. I just think because there's so much content that you reach a level of saturation that ultimately hurts or an LLC hers but it prohibits you from reaching those big numbers that we used to see that and the fact that there's you know the television landscape has changed so much streaming platforms and all the other. I don't WanNa call him excuses but kind of excuses why. You're not seeing the kind of success that the business used to have in terms terms of the total number of viewers is because so much out there that doesn't feel I don't know it just doesn't feel compelling anymore after all these years hulk Hogan still get a hero's welcome here January nineteenth twenty fifteen seats strut into the ring One of the things is that you know. You've always championed as being would you did all your research and studies on what wrestling fans wanted back on. The Niger era unpredictability was number. One you know they WANNA be able to call it. They wanted to be surprised. And that certainly has not been the case ace with this particular episode of Monday night raw. They were reviewing so far. We've seen triple h three times. We saw in the first twenty two minute segment than we saw them in a backstage estate skit with his old pals from the click a hilarious interaction there. But we talked over with John Waldman and Damian saying Dow now who at the time was doing the MS now character. But then you know forty one minutes we saw a recap of the twenty two minute Promo which is just remarkable And I think that one of the challenges that we have is if you are creating you know ten hours of content we. It's hard for every episode to be unpredictable because the unpredictability becomes predictable. I have to chew on that. I think confuse me. It's early in the morning. I haven't had enough coffee but I think is the other part of. It is going back to what I said. Earlier you know unpredictability is is doing something different. That seems out of sequence. You would have never seen it coming whatever that may be and again once you've producer. Maybe this is what you're saying and I just didn't hear it the right way but I think one of the challenges you have when you produce this much content is what do you do what do you do. That doesn't feel like you've seen that before you know and again you had so much opportunity back in the late ninety s and even into the early part of two thousand We can pull pull stuff off like they did with Steve Austin bear ice cream trucks or whenever garbage trucks would drive into the arena. All the crazy stunts that they used to be able to pull will you. Can't you just can't go back to that well and surprise people with those kinds of a column stunts but those types of scenes any longer. Because you've just done it all and there's a limit. There just is a limit to what you can do again. I don't think that's a criticism of anybody's creativity. Your lack thereof. I just think it's a you know part and parcel to producing so much content. It starts to feel repetitive. And to your point what do you do that feels feels like Oh my God. I didn't see that common when you probably saw something very similar to a two three four weeks ago. That's to me the challenge. It's it's It's interesting to see on these reunion. Shows how they use the stars you know first time we see the interview. Oh they're backstage. And there were Shawn Michaels and hunter and then Wallman men. And then they have an interaction with Damien sandow and MS then here. The hometown boy comes out third and of course sean got dressed up for the occasion with his hunting boots hunting hat and his hunting shirt and blue jeans. But he's coming out third with the Hulk Hogan Al I listen and Flair in the middle and of course we're just a few days away from the Royal Rumble and they've positioned this as being. Hey these three guys have one rumbles. Let's get their take on what they think might happen with the royal rumble. The Sunday what do you think of their their use of legends in this show. I think it's working. Obviously you know the the look at the audience I do. I don't think I can see one if you're not watching along with us if you're driving or working whatever you're doing I don't know how many people are in this arena. I'm guessing probably what would you guess. Fifteen eighteen thousand people and I don't think one of them are sitting down everybody's on their feet. There's a lot of emotion. People are happy to see everybody and I think the way they're using the legends here and his particular scene as we see you know. If you're not watching Shawn michaels dressed up a little bit like strugglec Boston. I guess in his cammo outfit is hunting. Boots is kind of pointed out the Holcombe Ric flair to suit and the audience is thrilled to see him. And now you're getting a great great reaction a great use of of the legends here Byron Saxton of course is hosting the segment and they're pushing the WW APP in a major way. Of course we know that The network is just about a year end at this point a little less and they're pushing it really really hard here and that was a gamble. The Vince McMahon. To the whole you know. Hey let's Let's upset the apple cart with the pay per view model. And let's try the network and it requires a Lotta people to Get comfortable with APPS and navigating those APPs that maybe hadn't before and let's probably nothing big for most of our listeners here but there is an older generation where what do you mean to watch. TV We don't need our phones. I saw it took a little bit of coaching and they were. Oh definitely drilling a here from the time you were with. WWe In the more recent era. How much of these sort of sales points do you think that the announcers had to get over? I guess I'm not really sure So what I mean stepping back in the day wrestling announcers talked about what they saw on. Their Monitor told the stories. They talked about the angles. They talked about the issues talked about the heat. They described the move. They were doing and why they hurt. And what their motivation for hurting this guy was these days. We've also got to make sure that we're reminding everybody to get that. WWE Network. There's a trial right now with Promo Code so and so and so it's much more Hands on selling sailing messages. From Vince McMahon. or at least that's what we've been led to believe that. There's initiatives that Vince really wants to get across so guys like Michael McColl have to spend less time talking about what's going on in the ring and more time trying to sell stuff. Yeah I get that you know. I'm going to have to Bama watch a show or two in the next couple of weeks. actually MRS as we're still here in Florida where we've been kind of bouncing bouncing around into different homes. We're doing the AIRBNB tour of Florida so to speak and and every place that we've been in so far you you don't have access to cable television so I haven't been able to watch much really since the middle of November In terms of current product which is really weird from? We haven't been able to watch the news. I haven't been able to watch get access to SPEC DOWN OUR AWS. Anything since like I said around the middle of November when we last left Stanford but you go back in time to go back and listen to an early show. Listen to Jim Rawson. Tony Chevallier Tony. Shabani calling a WCW. Or in my case when I was doing play by play we were constantly pitching the magazine. Pitching hard hard pay per view. So I think there's probably yeah we you're obviously you're hearing things now from your announcers talking about absence. Oh fourth in and pushing that type of thing but if you go back into the mid nineties late nineties I think we've probably spent just as much time pitching pay per view so I guess what I'm trying to this is. I don't know if we're selling more now than we were. Then we're selling I say we. They're selling differently now. They're selling a different product now than they were back in in the mid ninety s because of streaming in the APP and so forth. But I don't know if the if the volume of that type of promotion is really that much different and going back again again and I don't sit and watch hours and hours of wrestling so I may be wrong about that. That's just my observation from this perspective but going back to what you he said about the WB APP and the streaming platform and how old of a move. That was you know we all. It's funny how time I'm changes your perspective on things but if you go back to two thousand and I don't know exactly it was a it was announced that wwe was going to go to streaming platform and change the the way they delivered pay per views. But I remember when I first heard it whenever that was it was like now that is one ballsy move. That's the type of move. Ah when you make that move your really again my perspective without knowing all of the information. But what I'm guessing that the pay per view revenue from direct. TV Bishop. Ford satellite was probably twenty five thirty percent eight of the WWE. Bottom line back then and I was with WCW so assuming it was somewhat the same same to put that much year revenue in which probably was about one hundred hundred twenty five million dollars a year. At that time. I guess to put that that much of your revenue at risk for a new technology that may or may not work that the audience may or may not get when twenty twenty every is. I just talked about you know. I'm reading these houses here in Florida on vacation and none of them have access to cable television. Because everybody's everybody's getting their content on streaming platform of of one or or another but that was a big risk back that nobody knew for sure that the audience would adapt to it. And you know I can't listen. I'm obviously not just anybody's asked for any reason other than just be honest. It's about it you talk about a ballsy move by Vince. McMahon making that an end the entire company making that commitment to divest yourself necessarily of direct. TV in the traditional view distribution model in a building streaming platform. That would allow you to control Schrool. All of your own content yourself was a ballsy ballsy move without question and obviously if the gamble that wound up paying off it it is interesting though that most experts who monitor it look back and say you know had it not been for the increase television rights. It wouldn't have worked because the stock took this major bump up based on that more so than based on the network because the early projections better than actually hit. So we've got somebody interrupting the segment. Who is going to be the big show? That's the most fucked up looking outfit. I've ever seen big show. Where is that goofy? Your what described that Connor. I don't even know how to describe it. But the singlet well it's assists. It's a low cut singlet about almost down to his belly button. What's that pattern on that thing? Can you tell I cannot. It looks like two strips Komo on either side like gray urban camera that is pretty goofy. Look at a my opinion. The the This show are actually got to be out. I went with Rick and Got To see him sort of talking through what they were GonNa do that day and put it all together and it was fascinating sort of see how the sausage was made this segment in particular There was lots of. You've creative bandied about and I got to see for the first time. Not Exactly. That doesn't work for me brother. But not too far apart and It was sort refund. Say So let's. Let's describe the scene for for our listeners. Who aren't watching along you've got hulk Hogan Shawn Michaels and Ric flair in the ring? Big shows now cutting a promo so when you said you got to watch the sausage being made and watch him lay out this promo what aspect of it was not not working for me brother. Well there's GonNa be some physicality of course and in this era this is the the the version of big show who is a knock out artist. I and if he just says I'M GONNA knock you out. He just rarest back punches him and boom everybody goes to sleep. And in this case in particular They resorted debating the creative of. Hey what what exactly should we do here. And I don't know it. It was just fun to to sort of see one about a big boot. What well okay? And of course we know. Oh you know some of that flat actually GonNa come to fruition but the idea that they had to navigate. Hey how do we use these legends. In a way where we sort of Give the fans what they you want. But at the same time we're putting over young talent to you. Don't WanNA squash young talent. But it's hard I guess at this age it's hard to say that big show was quote unquote a young talent but he is still wrestling here. Nobody's day-to-day talent. And that's always a challenge. You know when you bring in a guy like Hulk Hogan and Michaels and Ric flair. You put him in the ring because the audience audience wants to see the legends. Get the upper hand. They're they're reliving. Whatever era of wrestling that they really enjoy they want because they don't get to see the legends? NFL THEY WANNA see the legends. Get get the upper hand but then you've got to do business. The following day and the legends are on a plane. They're on their way home. You may not see them again for four five six months right and in the meantime. You've got your day to day talent to be disparaging when I say today. But you've got your regular roster roster in the ring with these legends and they have to do business so you've got to be careful that you don't dilute the the equity in your your main roster roster and sacrifice to get you know a legend over who's really not going to be around the show's over. It's a challenge and I think the other part of it is is. I think it's even more true now in two thousand twenty is these guys whether it's Hulk Hogan or Shawn Michaels Rick Flair. They can't take bumps and I know for a fact with respect to Hulk Hogan and two thousand fifteen. This guy was just not capable of doing all that much he wanted to in his mind he was still thirty eight forty years old and was able to do all the stuff that he used to be able to do in his mind. But the body was not cooperating and he was well aware of that by this point he had a lot of serious back accu issues. You'd already been through a number of surgery so with regard to haul no matter how bad he wanted to do something. He was physically really not capable of doing it to the to the to the level or not not to the extent that he should put it that way in the same thing is true not wasn't probably in two thousand fifteen obviously with Rick certainly is today you know you when you see legends in wwe. Today there's only a small handful of them that are capable of going out there and having any physical contact so it is it it is tough. It's particularly because you look at you know Rick Flair Shawn Michaels and Hogan all three of those guys want especially when they get out there in part of the crowd and again you're looking at if you're not watching along with us just about everybody in this arena is on their feet right now. Listening to this promo they want wants to see the action but you know. The talent knows better in for reasons that we discuss a few moments ago about not deluding the equity. In just the reality of you know what they can and can't do they're not able to do it. And now as we see Rick Larry takes off a spark code. He's taken up the Rolex he's doing his ric flair Gimmick Gimmick stumping around. The ring later on Paul White writes left center the Ring Ric flair having a blast comes off the ropes and gets blast uh-huh and Hogan and Michaels come over to mop up what's left left of Ric flair. Not Probably not probably what Rick wanted to do rigging here. He didn't the look at well. 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He's going to be taken on a guy who's recently recently pop back up Wade Barrett of the real life Stu Bennett who's now doing some commentary for the Nwea on their studio show have you who Have you seen any of the independent power episodes that they've started to do this year with the old school studio. Look I have David Ghana has sent me Quite if you'd like to some of the episodes that they've done evans sat down and watched it on youtube but I have watched A lot of the stuff that David sesame the and it looked nickel is one of my favorite characters n People Super Guy just a super guy classy very talented. He's a student of the industry and not just in the ring but outside of the ring very interested in the business of the sports entertainment business wrestling business. Whatever you WANNA call it? So I'm a big fan of Nex and therefore a big fan of of the NWEA. I like what they're doing. You know it's unique. They're embracing facing the studio show fourche. That'd be easy for me to say they're embracing the studio show format and kind of embracing the Business Talca of that era. You know back when most wrestling was in small television studios rather than what most people do myself included we did in WCW TNA did it. You know you're stuck in a sound stage You try to make it look bigger than it really is. We try to camouflage the fact that you've only got four or five six hundred people in the audience whatever it is and make it look like it's bigger in the NWEA is embracing that studio show format in kind of damage to you. Know the the history and the legacy legacy of the industry before it became this big spectacle the granted. They're doing it because they have no choice. They have to but I really respect the fact that they're not trying to camouflage and rather embrace it so big fan of what they're doing and hope for their success so let's go to twitter. We're watching US stupid here. Sorry Wade Barrett and lean. Ambrose trying tear it up here Monday night raw. We're talking of course about the debut of sting on Monday night raw Kirk Mercer Chris. Gibson writes it's Eric. What would have been your reaction if this would have happened in nineteen ninety eight? Of course we're talking about sting jumping ship. He was definitely the face of WCW the franchise of WCW and and really. That's the reason we're reviewing this show. Because he was one of the lone holdouts. It didn't feel like it was ever going to happen happen when everybody had worked everywhere sting did not he was WCW loyalist. What if he would've jumped ship in nineteen ninety eight fresh off the the incredible push and storyline that we had Through all of nineteen ninety seven and even part of ninety six hypothetically of his contract and come up ninety eight and he switched. Jerseys have disastrous without anything. While it's hard hard to hard to imagine it. You know I I understand. It's a hypothetical question and I get it and I. I just can't imagine what it would've been devastating. Let's let's first deal with that. You know there was so much so much emphasis on student. He was really really the face of the company. Regardless of you know the N. W. O.. And all the success you know Nitro head and all of that. The fan base. I think recognized sting and as you know other than Rick flair probably was WCW and into loose. Somebody like that would have been devastating stating setting. Destroy Lines that were in place and everything that we had hoped to be doing with staying. Can that hypothetical question. Let's say in August or September knbr one thousand nine hundred eighty if Singh said sorry guys you know got a better deal from. WWe Hadn't that way it would have been hugely would have been demoralizing realizing I think not only from a creative perspective but I think within the offices you know sting was a guy. Steve Steve Gordon. The man sting the character was was someone that got along with everybody. You know and it wasn't superficial. It was. He wasn't just polite to people he was obviously but it was genuine. When was Steve? I don't think there was one person within. WCW either in the locker room or in the office. That had one. Negative thing to say about seaboard. Gordon and I and I think most people would have been devastated anti-gun to wwe great question. I'm not a big fan of hypotheticals. But that was a good one. Lots of Questions about the undertaker and sort of comparing him to staying a Goddamn candy man on twitter says when someone from. WCW You would come to the wwe. They would go out of their way to meet. The undertaker was that the same for staying when it was the other way around the. WWe guys you signed to the nineties. Go out of their way to mate sting. I don't think so. I don't recall that being something that was obvious vitas. I'm sure that they did but keep in mind even a lot of the. WWe guys it would would come over. You Know Scott Hall Kevin Nash for example new new sting when they were in. WCW So it wasn't. It wasn't a situation where they were meeting someone for the very first time or they didn't already have a good relationship ship with Steve because they did So I think because of the familiarity and because they all knew each other had an had known each other for quite a long time. I can't think of anybody that came over from from. WWE TO WCW didn't already have a relationship with Steve. So we saw the ambrose pick up the big win here. You beat the Intercontinental Champ. But it was a non title match but Dean Ambrose you winner gets the win with the dirty deeds double armed. Adt I'm curious your your take on Dean Ambrose and Slash Jon Moxley. Do you perceive him to be a quote unquote top guy with gadget. Put me on a spot not yet. That's I mean I gotta be honest I like his character. I like his work. I liked the fact. That he's kind of this enigma in in a in a way There's a lot of things I like about it. But top guy If I'm being honest no I don't why what do you think he's missing to be a top guy your for you and obviously top guys very subjective. You know it's this either to your taste or it's not what do you. What do you think he could do differently? What do you think he's missing range is it's to me? He's two dimensional and he needs to find that third dimension. You know to get him to Chris. Jericho type level It's nothing wrong with his work. Nothing at all wrong with his character other than I'm not seeing a lot of depth to it. It's there's a sameness to it. There's not enough range to it I'd like to see that and and I think that that's true across the boards for a lot of characters. That's just you know Jon Moxley You know to be able to shift gears and again. I'm not putting Chris Jericho over over Because I'm going on a cruise within four days I'm are I'm Oughta as you listen to this. I am on the cruise with Chris. Let's not why I'm saying this but you no you go back and look at Chris Jerko career and he's been able to successfully reinvent himself so many different times in so many different ways because he has that that that range in that third dimension that a lot of people have really never developed and a lot of top guys. Don't have it. You know guys guys you consider tough guys. Don't have it but I think if any talent just Johnny Dean whatever you WanNa call them not just John Moxley but any talent Alan once they reach that next level. They've got to be able to have that range that allows them to position elements of their carriage. Character the make them feel more interesting from time to time. 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The battle royal goes back you know to the very beginning of wrestling. It feels feels like it's been around for decades But there is a slight tweak from Pat Patterson wearing head of having all the guys start in the ring we bring in a different one out it builds this anticipation and here is where in rural rumble season right now. WWE presenting their pay per view. This weekend as usual all everyone starts to sort of back into Oh twenty. Six guys have been announced who were the last four. They WANNA be surprised. They want the big surprise entrance. Is someone new going. The debut debut is an old character going to come back. Who's going to win it? All this era predictability your unpredictability. Is I think what has been the key to to the longevity and they success rumble has had. Let's say you you hit it right on the head First of all did you buy your Lamborghini with not have a Lamborghini. No I- i- Conrad come on bought. What about a baby Mama Alexis? You don't have a Lamborghini too fat for Lamborghini. Hey sure that's that's well you got. The Rolls Royce has tag too fat for Lamborghini a shirt. That would be good but you know what you you hit it right on the head. One word one word in you. Summarize really the entire industry in what what makes it work. Anticipation a patient and look at. This is my might take on the psychology of what makes sports entertainment so successful when it's successful is capitalizing on that one emotion anticipation because we're we're conditioned as as human beings in this country you know you look forward to Christmas or you look forward to a Hanukkah or you look forward to Easter or you look forward to Halloween. Are you look forward to these holidays. That all have tradition associated with them to make them exciting and make them fun and make them something. You look forward or two every year so at a very very early age. You're conditioned a couple times a year to look forward to certain holidays right. You look forward to your birthday because you're getting birthday the presence or you're getting older which gives you an opportunity to do more things you get your first bike when you're in your teens you looking forward to get your driver's license. You can have that freedom freedom and you can drive a car and you're looking forward to relationships and looking forward to getting laid. You're looking forward to going to college. You know your first job so you have your own money honey. You're you're conditioned to look forward to things your entire life and I think when rustling works. Anticipation is one of the key elements that makes it work and I think your point to the royal rumble. And the anticipation of WHO's it going to be is absolutely right on the money. Look at the success of the N. W. Out yes it was the chemistry was the talent involved it was the storyline and although the believable all is things we've talked about Ad Nauseam Humira the show but I think the key element that really launched the N.. wwl In made it work. The underlying element mm-hmm. It was the anticipation of WHO's the third man and not no brag just fact the phenomenal way that we were able to keep that that secret and deliver on that promise and expectation of revealing at third man when you can when you can capitalize on dissipation and build that anticipation sufficient so that people are talking about it. They're excited about it. They're vocal about it and then deliver and door overdeliver hopefully overdeliver on the element of anticipation that satisfies the audience. That's when you knock it the fuck out of the park and I use the acronym Sarsour Story Anticipation Reality Surprising action. All of those elements are really really critical in my opinion for developing a great storyline within the industry. But okay all of those elements. I think anticipation as the foundation. Everything else is built upon. Good point on your on your behalf. They're Mister Thompson or state an interesting match here here between a very young new day think. They're roughly year in this act So they're not quite to the heights that they're going to be just a year later sure but they're taking on Tyson Kidd Answers Aro. I absolutely absolutely love the TAG team. And this shame that we didn't get to see more of it. Of course we know Tyson kids grow entering career will because short. He still worked behind the scenes with there would be a believe you listen to this. podcast said how the hell are you buddy. He looks like a one weight class lower. Ken shamrock in his geared presentation. Here but the work does not look like that. I think he's I don't know man I can't recommend going back and watching enough of their tag team stuff. I've been a big fan of sorrow since he was on the indies Claudio. Yesterday newly and I think he would have enjoyed gimmick and speaking of gimmicks there was a gimmick and a half with Tyson Kidd and So Zara here Adam rose. He's got all his his party animals with him as they're going through and you see on the left that same Guevarra who's now with a W. and Once upon a time Becky Lynch was part of that group and another time we saw Braun Strowman as part of that group. There's it's fascinating fascinating to see who all play these Rosebud characters but Samovar is a little nugget that I don't think a lot of people who watch AWA would expect to see here here but I want to give a shout out two zero two. There's a back with wwe for four months. So I didn't spend a lot of time there and didn't really get a chance to get to know a lot of people that I didn't previously now but scenarios one of those guys I wish I would have had an opportunity to spend more time with professionally in. He would just to get to know as a human being very very positive guy. I don't think I ever laid eyes on. When he didn't have a smile on his face he wasn't really outgoing and happy to be wary very was and loved that kind of energy? You know you really think a lot of CICERO as a human being as a professional great guy. We've got three great guys coming up. It's the end of Yo reunion with Hall and Nash Sean Waldman and of course we know they're all going going into the hall of fame this year and well you'll be watching on TV. What the fuck yeah? It probably will be watching television. I've said this before in. Nothing's changed I for me personally You know the hall of fame is the aspect of Wrestlemainia that I look forward to the most I the emotions are real. These guys are getting up there and you know of course a couple of been there a few times now a couple of times. So it's maybe maybe a little different for them but a lot of the people that you're seeing inducted are you know it's a really special moment for them and you know it means a lot to them in the emotion is real bill and I think that's what makes it really fun for me is just watching that real emotion. What makes this really fun for me is you know? WWe Is is you know no famous for shooting all over anything that wasn't wwe and to see the fact to Scott Hall. Kevin Nash Schon Waldman not only here whereas we're watching along on this particular episode. They're not bringing them back as diesel and razor in the one two three kid. They're out here flying the the flag of the N.. WWL I think even seeing them go into the hall of fame you know as the N. W. O.. It makes me feel really good when I see these guys. You know we do a lot of autograph signings together gathering conventions together and we see each other on the road several times during the year. Even Scott Hall Kevin Nash. When they're making personal appearances are not making personal appearances as diesel and Razor Ramon? And they're they're wearing their end wwl gear and I think you know it's one of the things that I'm very. I won't say most part of it very proud of is the fact that you know. I think we took Sean Waldman Scott Hall and Kevin Nash from Wwe and made them bigger stars than they were in wwe and I think that's evidenced by the fact that they're still out there today as those N. W. O. Characters and. I'm proud of that and proud for them because they did it. I gave him the opportunity. They delivered yes they did and Kevin Nash here. Looks like a million bucks but if you follow him on social media sour he recently posted a picture sort before and after he had had a knee replacement and got to realign did a lot of stem cells stuff done Columbia and You could even tell us. He was walking down to the ring his. He's he's not moving around super slyly here in two thousand fifteen but he is now and the before and after of justice stance is really unbelievable. And you know look in the mirror. You look good doing everything right for your health today but if you're not planning for the what if tomorrow what time you do. The problem is historically in rather -ironically the health conscious overpaid subsidize those who were less health conscious. And that's not a conspiracy. It's just how life insurance works well until now introducing health. Iq Health accuses both science and data to secure lower rates for people like hugh on their life insurance. Maybe you're cyclist or a runner. 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Line and there in the rain with the ascension which is about as far from reality based characters as one could get. I'm not sure that this makes much sense to me but whatever I wasn't following it at the time so so maybe they were more than I give them credit for being but to me. This is like a square peg in a round hole here now that listen. They're they're brought out to be humiliated. Embarrassed and the right or wrong. Never got a fair shake on the main roster They do great work done in the next tea and it felt like they had high hopes for him here but after for a week or two all that was out the window and well some of that might added to do with this fricken. Gimmick is ridiculous. Well they look like a A poor man's road warriors. You know and very poor. That's that's the I think that's being. That's being very unkind. Poor people in a Howa Woah. My God I love you that you've probably. You've always been a multi multi multimillionaire so maybe your kids never did it. But growing own up as a poor Alabamian we always get the name brand stuff so sometimes you know instead of going to Walmart or target or something like that. We'd go to like a discount store like a like a family dollar or a dollar general and those toys that they sell in stores like that are essentially knockoffs of the more name brand toys that you'd see in the bigger box retailers so you would have like wrestling action figures that were just like okay. SORTA looks like that God but it's just off a little bit so they would sell like fake ray mysterious and things like that. Well I feel like that's what this is the ascension or maybe like a a fake road warriors and and here you see. JBL getting off from his position and water reaction. It gets from the crowd here because he's because they didn't expect it. It's unusual and now and now what John is doing here is building anticipation Asian. They WANNA see John Getting the ring and knock somebody out or get knocked out that they want to see the confrontation. I love what he says. I had a feeling this what happened. So I made a little phone call to eleven in Dino and of course. He's about to bring out Ron Simmons and they did not expect this for him to stand up from the announce task and reveal the APA shirt and here. Air Comes. Ron Simmons Man. This is awesome stuff. It is awesome and run as an awesome guy. I love again another guy that I see probably three or four times a year out on the circuit Always fun hanging out with Ron always always integrate mood. Great Guy Amazing. Talent real legend in the industry. Funniest Hell to a love listening to him. Tell stories by the way we've talked a lot about. JBL The real life John Life Field with Bruce Prichard. But we haven't spent a lot of time talking here. Do you think he's one of the most misunderstood Gazan wrestling. I don't know how to answer that because you know I know John Fairly well. I met him when I right away when I first got it's a wwe we got along. Really actually I had met John in an airport in Tokyo He was coming into to Japan. I think and I was just leaving. And we you you know we bumped into each other and I think we had Sushi a beer together and you know next thing. I knew everybody was talking about how I was trying to steal John Lee field from. WWe which wasn't at. At all the case. But I always got along really well with John and still do to this day to me. He's a fun guy. I don't know how anybody if he does get along with John but whatever evidently he's he's got a little bit of a reputation and somewhat controversial in the minds of wrestling fans. But I don't know I've I've I've never I've never been around. John had anything but a great time and seeing him. You know treat people pretty respectfully so i. I don't know what I don't know what I don't what there is for people to misunderstand or maybe it's just me I don't know perhaps there's a there's a locker room John Real often. I've only met real life. John and He's always been very funny and witty and he loves bust and Bruce Richards balls as much Sante so Wha what's not to love right always got along along great. It's just it's fun because you hear certain things about certain people and that's what you're sorta led to believe and then you made them best when I was expecting at all and nobody was expecting expects the new age outlaws to come out here so enro- dog hit the. Oh you didn't know. The crowd went wild kind of weird. Actually that we're seeing right now. I'm not that really asked Billy Gunn. They'll tell you a story. I did an independent show about two years years ago in Detroit and Bill Gunn was actually at a match with my son Garrett and there was a spot I was outside of the ring and there was a spot out of the match where I was gonna hit the ropes and I needed to reach down underneath the bottom rope in. Grab his his his leg in trip him up so I could give Garrett an advantage manage and when he hit the ropes as you know guys off and do they throw their hips into the road in between the ropes Kinda launch themselves off of it. I wasn't paying close attention being the inexperience of fuck that I am and I leaned in between the ropes. A little farther than should've and I got hit a head with his ass. Honest honest to God he I think for a second and a half I was out on my feet. I mean it just saw big flash a light at the mother. fucker has the hardest ass I've ever been hit with not that I've been hit with a lot but a ever want to get it again because it damn near killed me. I didn't know that we were GONNA learn so much about Mr asked the day but I'm glad we did so deadly fucking weapon. Let me tell you. So they see Quite the segment Bagman. I really enjoyed that segment. I think that's the proper way to use legends. It's unfortunate that it's at the expense of of a tag team. But that's on the main roster but I guess that's sort of the structure you have to go with here and the ascension drew the unlucky Straw these days. Of course they've been released from their W. W. contracts they're going to Get back out on the free market and see what what Obviously they won't be the ascension Gimmick. I'm curious to saying God should be should be rate for that. That was one of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen in this era. I mean it would have been fine back in the nineteen sixties. But this was. This was horrible because as a tag team We saw that they could have really good matches when given the opportunity and Victor the smaller of the two He's only thirty nine. which is the prime age for professional wrestler? Wouldn't you agree I think so. Oh you know he but by the time if you've been in the business for ten fifteen years you've you've finally reaching that point. Why think you really understand the business and you understand your character actor and physically you know your mid thirties? You probably as strong or stronger than you've ever been in your life and still durable so yeah. I agree because has ah tag partner. I think he's He's thirty nine as well. He might be forty this year. Either just a kid still. Yeah I mean that's not not the age used to be the A decade ago or generation ago people will talk about that as if it was old but I mean Gaza really hitting their stride in their late thirties and early forties. I mean this past year. Most people think that Chris Jericho had sort of the the the the the best year of any rest so this past year when it came to promos and matches and things like that forty nine years old when he did all of that now. Let's we'll talk about that for a second. 'cause we have mentioned in this before but there's a perfect example. Now you know I think even Chris. I don't know this but I I would imagine if you sat down with some of Chris's Chris's Matches from back in the mid late nineties. WCW You know. I I think physically. He was probably at his is prime in terms of what he was able to do. In the ring for sure in the late ninety s and the early part of two thousand but as a character I I think he's evolved tremendously since that time. And I think that's a big part of the key and if you're out you're listening to this and you're a young person you know thinking about getting in the industry or or if you're already in the industry and you're in in that independent world or maybe getting a break with aws next year even wwe sink about about your character and think about advancing your character and your ability to cut promos your ability to use your own creativity so you can bring up if they hand you a character if they meaning of its wwe. W anybody else if you're coming into an organization and you have a character that's being created for you your ability to interpret that character and make it your own is just as important not more important but just as important as the things you're capable of doing in the ring and I think Christine was a perfect perfect example of a guy who you know. He may not be at the top of his game physically as he was maybe ten years ago but I think he's far exceeded his this game compared to the same period of time when it comes to his character is in his ability to understand and apply psychology to it on on the show. Here we've got the A women's match We've got Italian page on one side here and given the big double Suplex the summer ray. It's pretty crazy to think that only one of these ladies still wrestling course. A page forced to retire due to an injury and some arranges pursuing. Do things outside of wrestling right now. It's also crazy you think about you know how much wrestling or women's wrestling inside. WWE has changed changed in five years. Of course summarized acting partner here Alicia Fox. She's on the outside looking for the tag. We should mention. We've got some more questions here on On on twitter all about staying making his his debut and a lot of the questions were about the wrestlemainia match. Of course. We know that the creative is going to be that sting here and he's going to take on triple h and as part of that wrestlemainia match that we would see just a few months after this it would essentially become the in W. O. with sting doesn't make any sense and Dax what'd you think of the Wrestlemainia Matt's did you think it was overbooked. Were you surprised that AAA one and not staying. What did you think of a handshake just moments after they broke a sledge? Hammer of his fucking head wasn't I wasn't impressed with any of it at all to be honest with you. I was disappointed pointed staying deserve better. It was a major fumble. I I happen to be watching that show on a monitor and a very prominent imminent. WWe Talent was seated on equipment. Box a very curious as to what the finish of that match was going to be but triple h got the win This person jumped off the box. Stormed off gotta be fucking kidding me. 'cause like half of this roster grew up a big sting and fan and stinks finally wrestlemania in. Well it's all about the game. Yeah but how can how can anybody that has spent more than five minutes working with. WWe Be surprised if that was the finish. Yeah I mean really come on. Let's beyond you can be hopeful that it would be different but you've got to be surprised and and maybe the personnel who it was. I don't need to know who it was. Maybe that person wasn't surprised it was just angry. But you know anybody thought for a half of second that Singh it was gonna come in to defeat triple h was smoking crack. It really is disappointing that this is going to be the pay. A often lot of fans were were hopeful they would see stink versus the undertaker. I would have been a great match. I I know paper you know everybody wants everybody to be the after Prom. But in Twenty fifteen or twenty twenty I don't think sting versus undertake your would be. Maybe what could have been say nine hundred ninety seven And that's really when that that sort of fantasy booking started happen when we had that black and white crow version as thing he started to see on after magazines on wwl the fantasy booking but someone did suggest something that I thought well now that actually my work instead of staying and undertaker against each other. Maybe they should form a tag team take on a couple of younger guys and a combination of you know. Oh some some more fulltime in ring performers working with the elder statesmen sting and undertake your that might be passable astle but still probably not exactly on some fans are looking for now but there's a lot to work with their. I mean you could have put those to put undertaker in sync together reluctantly. You could've you could've put them together but with an underlying tension between the two of them or just enough doubt you you know between the two of them to not be totally sure that they were going to work together Well in the ring or not escalate something at the end of a match. That's where you would have a conference. And there was a lot to work with their by taking those two up. And I think you're right the fantasy booking aspect of it. It's always nice again. What if you would have had sting from one thousand nine hundred seven hundred ninety eight when he was arguably still at his physical prime in there with the undertaker same situation would that be great? Absolutely would be great but putting that together in two thousand fifteen or in two thousand and two thousand twenty people would be very very very disappointed in talent themselves but to be disappointed because they know that they're not able to deliver the expectation that the audience has they're just not physically weekly capable of doing it and it's just the reality but I think putting together would have been a really really interesting story. It's Alan would have still had all the the potential of of creating interest and building anticipation because of the inherent desire of of the audience to see those who kind of go at each other one just one time. Even if it's for a short period of time could have been fun aren't you here's another guy. Love love love being around on this guy. You gotta see this from this past week. I know you didn't see it. But you gotta find a clip I re tweeted and scroll through my tweets and you'll see a video from this past Monday where he was declaring him so he's a twenty four seven champ now glaring himself Eligible for the Royal Rumble Bowl. And then he started cutting a promo about how he was GonNa Whoop your ass and you had no chance he was gonNA tear you limb from Limb Paul Heyman and then of course Heyman and says wait a minute bomb hit. I'm not in the match. Brock listener is an Iran. Says hang on. You're not in it. He's in it and of course Hayman's yeah stupid or something like that Ryan says. I'd like to officially undeclare myself from the Royal Rumble. It was tremendous one of the highlights segments. And I I think he's maybe one of the more underutilized towns forty eight years old again still looks tremendous you would never guess he's forty eight And and and and still relabeled to perform at a high level where the rings were stuff is still there but his character development to your point about Jericho off the charts off the charts. And I'll tell you what in this be careful how I say this but if you know Laurie and I get back to cody Wyoming and WWe happens to come to billings. Montana if arch youth is on the card. I'm buying a ticket. I'M NOT GONNA call Mark Rhino and ask them for a free one. I'm going to buy one guy is so entertaining in out of the ring. He's just such a talented guy in a super is another one of those people like Zarro. You know you could you could walk into the arena if you're working. WWe myself you could walk in and tired being a foul mood. Whatever you you spend about thirty seconds around our truth any you're cracking up and you realize you know life pretty good? He's just one of those people that you know. Make make you feel good about being around his Super Guy Super Guy and a great talent. It was so remarkable. Right there to see rousseff here. ROUSSEFF is getting in the middle of a big push here. He's the US champ a still paired with Lana They're still dropping the big flag from the top. He's wearing wearing the metal there's a flag at ringside. We're just a couple of months away from him riding a God damn tank interesting mania to wrestle John Cena just really remarkable and then you see what they're doing with him today and you just wonder. How did we get here? Because by the way physically rousseff looks better than ever His his work is so tremendous. But during the middle of this. Bobby Lashley Lana Story Line and you know this guy was rod auden tanks to Wrestlemainia and take John Cena. I just missed this old presentation the very very much a I've drago rocky for presentation as we see backstage. H here brock listener `Kansas Confronting Seth rollins both our heels But they're going at it. And of course seth is flanked by Jay Jay Security. Of course Joey. Mercury has been rather controversial figure in this last year so he's no longer with WBZ and spent some time with ring of honor and all of that. Got Blown up in short order and Now Seth seconded with Aarp and now Buddy Murphy and here's a couple of guys who've been around around for a long time. It's your tax champs the USOZ and There recently announcing that they're coming back after a little bit of time often of course we're just a couple of days away from them taking on ms now so Damien sandow in the Ms. Is You ever get a chance to see. This is This stunt double version of Damian sandown with the MS No. I didn't but before we go on what was the. What's the controversy surrounding enjoy mercury? Oh my God it would be an episode and a half but the Gist is he. He worked closely with ring management and When they had a falling out he started sharing screen shots and behind the scenes information of some of the decisions that they were making that he knew would be unpopular with fans including and Things like medical care for the athletes and Just things that shouldn't be pay scale for their champions and just embarrassing facts and took a weird turn in the women's champion was involved and she's no longer with ring of honor and there was infidelity involved. And it's just it's a soap opera dirty dirty stuff but we should do an episode out at some time. Well voted bonus episode by the way. I don't know if you're paying attention there but as the you so I think as j rolled up ms sand out took the identical cynical bump on the outside and literally everything that Mrs doing inside the ring. sandown as mimicking on the outside of the ring. That's entertaining is. That's really cool. So the concept is ms a big movie star. He's he's huge star so he needs a stunt double and that's what they mean doing and they're calling. I love love this. This is creative. This this is Kinda cool I like. That's a fresh idea. Has that ever been done before. No and it got over huge to the point that even even when they were tagging the fans would boo Ms. But the minute sandown got in that. Go Bananas That's awesome. That's awesome he he. These days is A big part of what they're doing with the NWEA so if you enjoy his work be sure to check him out on power on Youtube three two one way. So what do you think this Stunt double thing you know in wrestling Unocal. How often say there's nothing original? We've all seen something we've all seen it before everything's rehash this is not. This is so awesome. I absolutely I love this idea. 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Mississippi took a picture of over laptop that she had of us that we took it An anniversary a couple years ago and since it in in about ten or twelve l. days later to maybe got an update in kind of a work in progress Sample of of the portrait and I was amazed as you know. You're looking at it on a computer laptop so it's like. Wow that looks really good but when it was finally delivered like I said right before we love Sanford I opened it up and I was shocked. I mean flat flat out shocked at the quality of it. I mean this. This portrait looked like something that you would spend thousands of dollars having done and you can get it for a fraction of a fraction. The price awesome awesome awesome. Can't recommend it enough when we get home and get Hong then Cody Wyoming will invite you and begin to come out to cody. Spend some time with us over over the summer. Maybe hanging out the Rodeo ride a cup horses catch a couple of fish trick a couple of beers whatever. 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It's weird because I think This may have flown onto your radar but John Sina has for the first time in his entire wrestling career gone. I full calendar year without wrestling match the end of an era. I wonder what he's GonNa look. I don't know Johnson a real well but I know yeah well enough to know that he is much like the Rock and so many of the other guys that have reached such a high level of success in the industry. You can't get get the rush that you can get inside of a rustling rating with an arena full of ten fifteen twenty forty sixty eight hundred thousand fans like you can In this industry and I'm I'm sure we're going to see John Again. But here's here's the complication. I think one of them at least is the more successful. John Becomes in the feature film industry. which is we talked about earlier? Show is really starting to make some really positive moves in that regard. The heart is for him to compete. Because when you're signed on to do a movie once you you as they say in the industry you become officially attached to a project. The filmmakers have to take out insurance insurance on on every aspect of producing that film including the talent and some of those insurance policies prohibit Talent from taking part in certain activities much like professional sports you know in the NFL if you're an NFL player. There's all this things that you can't do when you're under contract riding being motorcycles for example is one of them or jumping out of airplanes or you know probably water ski any kind of high risk activity because the team has so much money invested. Did you in John's case the producers of film our studio have so much money invested in that project and the talent that's attached to it so the more successful John Becomes in the feature film industry. Sure I think the less likely it's going to be that we're going to see him in the ring but I think he's not quite there yet. I don't think but he's well on his way and I know John would love to get back in the ring and and get that reaction from that audience because there's nothing like it is just addicting here here. We see John Cena in the big show taking some of the world's biggest jobs just whenever he's ready we'll tag out tagging corporate gain and south rollins it's Yeah pretty lopsided here. Three on one attack is stacked against our hero. The back the deck is stacked by the way As laid. We got a lot of comments like this Eric. How terrible did you think it was the capture ferring to sting as the vigilante sting? I don't know that was on your radar but it is something. They drilled thrilled really really heavily. They weren't calling him. The man called sting they weren't calling him the legends thing were calling in the icons thing They were calling him the vigilante staying. That's what they were really really drilling and a lot of old. WCW Fans felt like man. Just let him be fucking sting while we have the. Wb Spin on everything. What do you think of the nickname the vigilante staying stupid? What does it mean? What does it represent? Where did it come from made? Look there's a lot of silliness in in professional wrestling sports entertainment. There's a lot of things that go on. That makes absolutely no sense so so much so that sometimes you just kind of go with it but you know when you got somebody like saying who had such a long and high profile career. Why why would you tag him with something that made absolutely no sense and has no application to who the character was or who he is at that particular time makes no sense to me? Dumb Francis. Let me rephrase it sucking dumb Francis wants to know how would you brought staying into the. WWe I WANNA brought him in as himself you know when I say himself his most recent character the crow kind of character. Your sting. I would certainly does that. That's what most wrestling fans probably in two thousand fifteen recognized him as because WCW in Nitro and the stink character was so much more popular in the late nineties than he was in the early nineties so I would have brought him in his at crow character Lots of questions similar to this one. Jim Rights. Do you think advanced goes out of his way to destroy anything. New created like the interview and WWe staying Goldberg ultimately anything WCW IF killed off by vents in the end no. I don't think that and I think that's kind of silly. I understand why people you might think that but I don't think that's the case I look. I honestly believe Vince will take advantage of exploiting us anything that he possibly can to make his business healthier and generate revenue Including anything that was WCW. But I also do believe that there is certain. Oh Gosh I don't know I'll call it a culture corporate culture whereby in Wwe wwe brands and all of things that are created as original intellectual. Property will always be positioned As a priority already in in. I'm not so sure that that's a great idea. Obviously look at their business model is working for them. It's unfortunate I think in some cases but the NWF WWL to this day is still one of the most successful products in the wwe Cadillac in terms of merchandise E look at this. This crowd shot here from two thousand. Fifteen years and WWL merchandiser. You could probably watch you know all this Monday night or tonight and C. N.. wwl merchandise in the crowd that they purchased through the wwe. Now they're still making money off of it. They're not destroying it. They're keeping the merchandise available there. Inducting the NWF wwl went to the hall of fame. So I think the fact that. WWE is promoting the end up. You owe as much as they have our effect that they're still selling their merchandise kind of Contradicts the statement. That they're trying to kill it. Think they're trying to make money off of it but I also at the same time Think that it will will always end wwl will always take backseat to anything or anything that was WCW original Including sings return and his positioning in wrestlemainia against triple h e will will always be positioned as secondary to anything that's wwe but that's not the same thing as killing it. It's not the same thing as you know breath disrespecting it it's just positioning it and like I said I don't think it's wrong from the WWe perspective. I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily boroughs wants to know where you surprising waited so long. No I'M NOT SURPRISED I. I'm not surprised at all all students very loyal guy. Now I it's interesting. Conrad is I see staying a couple times a year and we hang out together there and you know we were on very good terms and there was a point in time when St Morgan I and my wife and sees previous wife were pretty good France they came came out to Wyoming and visit us for awhile back in the late nineties so we were pretty close but we never talked about. WWE reaching out to him or him receive reaching out the wwe. And I know there were probably conversations but Steve Never talked about it. He never used any interest in the wwe or any interest. That Vince McMahon may have had in Steve He never use it as leverage to negotiated the never implied it whereas oftentimes people did you know sometimes it was more settled and other times but more often than not everybody would let let me know from time to time that they still had an ongoing relationship with banner the the door may or may not always be open for them just to kind of keep. Keep everything in check from a negotiation perspective. Steve Never did that He was just so loyal. I think you know I. I respected him for them and and probably even more so today. I think it would have probably been instincts. Best interest to to make a move to. WWe particularly in the late ninety ninety eight ninety nine one probably ninety seven ninety eight a better time on sing probably would have had a tremendous amount of leverage and would have made an enormous amount the money but he was very very loyal to to Turner into WCW. I've nothing but respect for him for that loyalty. He's a rare commodity in any business probably a rare commodity in life but particularly in the professional wrestling industry. And it's one of the reasons I have so much respect for staying we We got lots of questions about your favorite version of staying and yes we should mention that they even included the TNA aversion Michael writes. What are Eric's favorite What is your favorite version of sting surfer staying crow sting jokers thing thing that we'd be staying not the different versions of the character? which was your life well partial to the to the crow hosting for obvious reasons because it worked so well? I think that's what most people you know ten or fifteen or twenty years from now when I look back at some of the biggest names names and professional wrestling from the late nineties. We'll we'll look back at sting in that crow character is one of the top characters are favorites. But I have to say the joker sting that we dabbled with a little bit and TNA was a blast made. Steve did a great job with ABC character. that was a lot of fodder. It didn't last long but for the brief period of time that we played with that character That was it certainly doesn't even come close to measuring on the Richter scale of success that the character had but in terms of just being fun and interesting and entertaining it was. It was great. I had a lot of fun with that. And so two Steve. Corporate Gang going for the pin here on John Cena mother false else. Finish Rwandan things down. We're getting close There is a famous Quote here from JBL that we're going to in just a minute. I'm GonNa try to have the audio queued up for Because it's just too Larry when we when we see staying debut here at the very very into the show what do you think of Seth's are there. He is offering player the picture that I don't know why that tickles me when. JBL says that's not staying. That's a picture of staying in. Of Of course the picture starts moving and there. He is staying on Monday night raw. After all these years. We didn't think it would ever happen. And it has or seeing. Of course I I knew recognize that. That's the gorilla position. The Control Center. Where Vince McMahon is on headset? But he walks right through the curtain and there he is atop the ramp points on top of his game. Here you know. There's some great intensity here this works. This really works for for me. The Distraction and somehow with the distraction. It's all that senior needs. Schoolboy seeing against the wind and celebrates well the kid in the front row pretty special moment. This is awesome and this this presentation is thing here. I don't see anything at all wrong with this. I didn't see it live when it happened. Obviously but I don't see anything wrong with this at all. I mean this is a win and win win. Great reaction from triple H in Stephanie. Great reaction for John Cena love the way he jumps into the crowd and always worked at work when we did did it with Diamond Dallas page. That's one of the reasons I think it it got you know. GDP over as much as he did when we were trying to really redefine his character. Actor is that blue collar all American kind of working working man's hero guy and it certainly working here for John. It just gets the crowd even more revved up in the more revved up the crowd is the more the people at home feel validated investing three hours into watching show. I don't think he could've finished the show and he's stronger than what we're we're seeing right here with the crowd chanting. Yes yes yes and triple h on the announcer desk yelling. No it didn't happen it's awesome. It really is us. You know what is the. What else is awesome as you know I used to listen to your Your first podcast back in the day Bischoff on wrestling man you guys. We'll talk pretty regularly routinely about whether or not you should have touched your t shirts and thankfully you've been cured of that back during the end of your days days and but I know why did you ever wonder why traditional button ups look so long baggy. It's because they were never meant to be worn that way untuckit shirts or specifically civically designed to be worn untucked and untuckit is the brand you've been looking for. 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Episode #318  Hudson Hawk, with Roman Mars

The Flop House Podcast

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Episode #318 Hudson Hawk, with Roman Mars

"On this episode, we discuss Hudson Hawk, the story of Sully Sullen, Burger, and the miracle on the Hudson the miracle of course, being the creation of the movie. Hudson Hawk directed by Sally celebrator. Tom. Hey everyone. Welcome to the Flop House. I'm Dan McCoy. Hey. Dan. It's me. Stuart. Name, and your last name also. Good. Okay. You coming along Great Stuart and I'm glad we put all that practice in before and I'm Stewart's You know miracle worker style Tudor Elliott. Kaelin. But today we've got some exciting guesting with us today because joining us great. We've got one of our biggest most blockbuster guests and we're really out of the game. It's like. It's like when a horse is just like ready to go and then they opened the gate and all four of the horse's legs immediately following. Push the little button underneath the horse and it just collapsed. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Our guest. Because it's one of those toy orces with the legs. Okay. Our guest tonight tonight when are you listening to this? Probably during the early morning hours our guest is. Roman Mars host of nine percent visible. That's right. One of the top podcasters in podcasting. I personally am very excited to have on because ninety nine percent visible is one of my favorite shows was one of the first podcast I listened to it was like Oh this is what a podcast is supposed to be. Jack Abbott not just three Gavin Jacks but like a real show where I'm like learning things and feeling things. So Roman thank you so much for joining us my pleasure. I've been a listener for a very long time. So it's a real privilege real. It's a real privilege to be here. There's my professionalism coming out right there. That's Dan Dan is contagious. At that person. We now have I think the most extreme polls of voice tone ever on the show with Romans like deep dulcet kind of. Beautiful sound and my kind of like, what if a praying mantis could talk kind of you know I sound like an ORC, that's been hit on the head. Only. Looks like. Wait what's the menu? How do I in Oregon Middle Earth Menu is Suddenly have achieved consciousness and I'm GONNA wander off to start painting horns and ends in the woods. And Dan, what does your voice like? I mean I I'm I'm sort of a Roman. That's more of an e or I. Be Okay with joyless ranking see that. Sweep. Speaking of joyless. Swing of joyless Romans we're going to talk about Hudson Hawk today but I I believe you you had something you wanted to talk about I want WanNa bring up the fact this episode in addition to having a blockbuster guest is happening at a blockbuster time for the podcast not the world the world's bad right now. But the PODCASTS is. Of the maximum drive. This one of those chill. Cool. Low pressure. Maxwell. Drives and Tang like two extra weeks to do and that's what we're going to talk about. 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That's so so maximum fund dot org slash join what we want to say, right Yeah and now that we've gotten that out of the way, the audience rushing to their computers were perhaps the web browser on their phone to become a new or. upgraded maximum fund member guys let's talk about a little movie that Roman decided to bring into our lives. This is movie that I have heard about for years and years and years, but I'd never actually watched it and so I'm curious Mr Mars. Why this one in particular. Will. Think it's held this sort of a bit of fascination for me because when it came out, I, was I think I was around fifteen or sixteen when it came out, and this is an age where I was prepared to hate anything and everything that existed in popular culture and I saw it on video and I knew people hated this movie and so is ready to join in on it but this is the first time. I. Felt like I knew that people were hating it for the wrong reasons because. They hated it because they wanted to be die hard three and but it wasn't trying to be die hard three. It was trying to be in are rated live action Hanna, barbera cartoon and I felt like this was totally missed on the public and so I was fascinated by by it and I kind of just sort of always thought about afterwards and the advertising to do favors because they were trying to sell does an action movie which I can't blame them because I don't know how they would have sold. As the movie, it is always a comedy I. Guess I. Mean I'm looking at the right now and it says in big letters, catch the excitement, catch the adventure, catch the Hawk, and then Bruce Willis and then Hudson Hawk is in kind of the second smallest letters on the poster but Hawk is in huge letters. So it's almost like they want people to just think it's called Hawk or maybe catch the hawk. Piggyback off that Hawk. The slayer. Lady. Lady Lady. And Hawk, the slayer had burned up the screens five to ten years before this and they wanted to jump on that wagon. Park Wind, had you know of course by Nineteen ninety-one was long? Replaced by motorhead in the hearts of Lemme fans everywhere but you know they thought, Hey, maybe we get some awkward fans and there and let's not forget someone must like Hawk man somebody somewhere like that. Character Hudson Hawk GonNa get it. Yeah I was I was reading some of their views from the times when we came out and I was baffled at how much the reviews kind of didn't seem to understand what was going on in the mood like what the movie was doing but maybe Maybe. It's because I have a theory about this. Maybe it's because at the time there were a lot of action comedies and so it was hard for them to look and looking at back now unlike. Oh this is like I'm this is like if someone wants tangling cash when it came out there like us another one of these and it doesn't make sense in it's dumb forget it but looking at it now you're like this is a refreshing slice of madness that I have nothing like the things that are being made right now. And I think that when I I tried to watch this, I knew it was a bad movie and I was trying to watch it for being a bad movie or not a bad movie necessarily will get to that but like a critical and commercial flop and Even as like. Viewing ironically it confounded me and now I feel like I've castaway all preconceived notions and I can see that it's almost like more in the spirit of like I. Don't know like our man flint or something like look. Super Campy like globetrotting. Adventure and I, don't know but do you WanNa say let's not pretend that everything about this movie is. The product of calculation because I My friend I'll I'll shut my friend Kevin see-saw. WHO's sent me a introduction that he did to this movie when he presented it I think he was either at the Nighthawk or the Alamo I can't recall but But this movie, the character of Hudson Hawk is based on a song that like Bruce Willis. Brazil's playing harmonica in like the House of Blues or somewhere like that Monica when he was still a bartender. No No. No. I'm saying that he was playing harmonica at this place and look just got up and started joining with the band on asked for you. I'm just saying this is not this is not at this is before he was famous that this wasn't probably wasn't like the stage of the House of Blues. There was like a band playing at a bar somewhere you know. Well I mean my point is he did it like he's not like he was in the so it could have been either what what was he ban called him up on stage. He's the reason I this wouldn't have gotten. So fucking convoluted Elliott. Relevancy, and the reason I bring it up is because this is something that this is an idea that was in. Bruce. Willis his head for a long time this character of Hudson Hawk the celebrity you know. If. That was the thing that I was explaining. You didn't need to jump in and hijack. Sorry I apologize I was a real Hudson Hawk their cat burglar. To Take Control Yeah, the point is. This like came up with this character with one of his like Blues Buddies and like in the hit movie that WHO's buddies. and. This was before as you say Bruce Willis was famous in any way but he always said he was going to make this movie about this character that they came up for his song long ago and turned this into a movie, and then meanwhile like Steve Desouza like wrote the script for this the diehard guy. But then they brought in Daniel waters who wrote heathers and demolition and Batman returns, and then less awesome things like the Bishop Ford Fairlane I assumed weird up the script a little but then Bruce. Willis kept rewriting all the stuff on set to his own like whims his like Bruno Whims. It was a little bit with doolittle where apparently, Robert Downey junior would just come to the set and be like, Hey, what if I gave it to a dragon and they're like, okay, like it's your movie. Go ahead. We're GONNA I, guess that's what's going to happen in this movie now that people are going to pay money to go see that we're going to release in theaters as a professional but Dan I think. Probably, there's a lot of we'll get. We'll. We'll talk more about the behind the scenes shenanigans because this was a very difficult shoot but I will say, as you said, not everything was kind of like. was according to plan but how could that be when the first time it was released on Blu Ray? In two thousand thirteen it was included as a set with Hollywood homicide, starring Harrison Ford and Josh Hartnett, which is clearly exactly where it was meant to be. With, some random movie, no one cared about from twelve years later guys. Let's talk about. Okay. I just wanted to say. To the listener. I feel like there's been a lot of concern about how much more irritable we are with one another of late. from listeners, they like the show because of the friendship and I just want to say is because of the friendship that we can be eligible to want to cover and then just ignore it five seconds. Dan I have not heard any any worries or complaints look at all these letters, Saxon sacks full of letters addressed to Santa Claus which I guess is me asking at Santa Claus for Christmas. Can you please have Elliott be meaner to Dan and I'm like? All right. If Chris, if Chris cringle noted Anti Semite at wants me to do it then. Sure. Okay. Act speaking to the sensitive listener Elliott the one like me who worries about things that have no bearing on his life. Okay. That's fair. We get into the movie since I do have seven and a half pages. So, this is going to be buckle up boys. Okay. So This is the movie begins as the best movies do with a giant illuminated tone telling the story of Davinci is birthdays how Davinci was supposed to build an enormous bronze statue. That's a true story he was. Commissioned to do that I think eventually, they did build that statue of like some time in the last fifteen years or so based on his original plans but. As they explained, bronze got scarce because of the wars in it'd be an bronze for wars because nothing wins wars like bronze. So. He makes a big what I would call steam punk but I'm wrong about that because with with it's clock punk technology, it predates steam. Which predates the Peter Gabriel Song Steam? So it's it's a clockwork machine turns he wants to turn lead into bronze but. He did it wrong using his three magic? Medley Christie Jaggi pieces that when you put them together into puzzling, you hit him with a laser. It turns lead into gold bump bump and we spend a lot of time watching doctor Dr Davinci Watching Leonardo Da Vinci. Who is not a doctor do not? This to CBS. podcast is beating out pilots. Dan Honestly like if we could sell to CBS tomorrow, that's what separates us from. Rich EXP-. Famous Television Producers Is, Da Vinci I'm like that's stupid. He wasn't a doctor and they'd be like Yes Leonardo Da Vinci doctor. This is perfect. It's like house meets a what's the what's an old time that meets the Davinci Code that sell it. Then why are we not sell you this right now? I don't know anything. Section of the movie that I did not remember actually at all I did not remember how it opened this. Davinci code content is like completely was seen it with fresh eyes. It's so absurd takes it's it takes a long time and it was obviously very expensive and the movie does not need it. There's like a little bit of kind of jokey voiceover and then it's just in Italian with no subtitles. DAVINCI walk through his workshop just yelling things that people. And then putting on sunglasses. So he can watch the laser turn bronze into turn lead into gold, and then he he tricks someone into testing glider with that will come. Later we have to see that glider work because we know they need to know that someone has has a glider and he walks past he's painting Mona Lisa painted in the smile yet and she smiles and she's got terrible teeth Oh, boy that's a joke for the art crowd that's a hybrid. There's GonNa be a second tooth jerk soon but I I, want to say. Perhaps part of the reason, this was roundly rejected by the public is. I you know I was watching this audrey who had no prior sort of context for the movie or idea of what to expect, and it was very confusing to. As Start With Leonardo Da Vinci and then be have one in the movie sort of off the bat talking about like old timey tough guys. And it was just like. She had a reaction that I i. didn't understand but I think other people like perfectly reasonable to have was like. Is. This movie wears it set like wind? Is it set like what type of thing is this and I think that people who don't see a lot of movies are less comfortable with not knowing exactly what type of movie. They're seeing. Also there's certain types of movies that you expect to come in certain forms I. Think this is Carla Corollary you're saying much as my my I know who killed me Theorem, which is that if I know who killed me had been Italian people would be like Oh look what it does with color. It doesn't matter that the plot doesn't make sense look at it. It's a it's a dreamscapes I think if Hudson Hawk was a Hong Kong movie with Hong Kong. The clashing of tones and the craziness people would be like I. Love It. It's crazy. It's like a goofy cartoon but to have an American movie with American actors and a lot of huge name cast and British actors to have them all in it. It's like what is going on here the same movie from another country I. Think people might have been like. Those goofballs and that other country they make these grades, quays movies Oh boy you know I remember when I watch at the time I was into I was watching a lot of monty python movies and it sort of fits squarely into that in my head and one of the reasons why I think my brain accepted it at that time. was rejected by other people at that time was the same thing like it felt it if I got it. I didn't think it was altogether successful but at least I got what was going on. Yeah I mean it is not altogether successful and there's one in particular which I think is it's probably the everyone assuming is I think maybe one of the worst in the history of film but we'll get. So. So now flash forward five hundred years later, and we're introduced a cat burglar Eddie. The Hudson Hawk now is his last name. His last name is Hawkins Okay because sometimes the characters call them at some times they call him Hawk and sometimes they call him Hudson and I was very unsure at any point which of those words was actually part of his real name. But he's a, he's a famous burglar meet him on the day. He's getting out of jail and he's so smooth and you know that because he's got three earings in one none in the other I believe and he's got a black fedora and a black trench coat and a black T. shirt and black slacks and black shoes. By the way those close close. N Que Cadillac. Yeah. Thanks the boys at time you're saying Stewart time bomb. I just wanted to say that the releasing officer makes fun of him for wearing the same clothes when presumably these are the clothes that he came in with when he was arrested Lake I. Don't think that you could be like, oh, check out Mr prisoner over here where and the same thing that he came in with. Liza can't even online shop. Don't you get Jane, crews catalogs and behind bars command. Consider? The. Real real. The less, but this is also the first moment where I realized again, I forgot that this is an R. rated movie. The parole officer says fuck for the first time and then I was like, oh, well, they used up there fuck for the first time in that these got to be no Fox from here on out but it is full of Fox after the. Movie. You could say it doesn't give a fuck, but actually gives doesn't. Or even movie it makes no sense. This should be a PG thirteen movie, but it shows it's nineteen ninety-one and in nineteen like it's an interesting to see how. How things shift like in the eighties, you could have pg rated comedy that had nudity in it in the nineties. If you're making action movie, people are just GonNa swear the shit out of that action movie. But now like even if you're making a horror movie, they're gonNA want it to be a PG thirteen movie and it's a it's just interesting. The way that that goes back like you'll watch movies from back then and you're like this would not fly now but also the the swearing is sober tunas any movie where that we're a big plot point is the character being able to sing old standards with his buddy like there's not really a reason why it should be an R. rated movie and it should be swearing all the time. The best. Plot. Point. Where you and I maybe are again on opposite falls. So Eddie his parole officer immediately tries to threaten him into robbing a an auction house and he's like come on my first day out of jail. You want me to go back to being a criminal again. But he's a real. That's your Bruce Willis. Bruce. Can't do ninety s resource I can do nows Bruce Willis. I don't think I'm GonNa be going back there anymore I can do like current sad all the time. But I don't think I do like the Bruce Willis back when his thing was jokes, I can do the rules now and his thing is that he's always on the verge of crying. I mean I think old Bruce Wells had the same sort of lack of enthusiasm for stuff was just let's of smuggler about it. So if you can just sorta combine those two things, he is very smug and I think that's the other thing that turn people off instantly is that Bruce Willis is so incredibly smuggling this especially for character who never really seems to be in real danger and always gets what he wants I. Mean that's what makes him smoke is he's all he always ends up on top and sometimes that's funny when it happens here but there are times when it's like. This the movie is so like Ah love this guy so funny academies your favorite don't you WanNa don't you WanNa be him don't you want to do him and be him don't you WanNa be him and do him switch to him doing each other and like wouldn't that be the best and it's it's very And I think that's you feeling the influence of Bruce Willis like co writer and driving creative force behind this in the movie he does have some of the worst quips I've ever heard in a in. A not worst movie in the world action we he is like I have to send me Ad Ad-lib some of them, but they're terrible terrible jokes but but also the time at the time I was more bought into him. He's kind of like Bruce Willis in this time is kind of like you know like a a kid who's two years old new like you're you're you're thirteen, he's fifteen and he has a popped collar and he's like he's like super cool and you think he's amazing. You just WANNA. Be Him and then you get like two years older and you're like that guy was a loser like. Car. and. But at the time, he's fascinating until he has that like my tolerance for his smugness. Has dropped precipitously in the thirty years since this movie came out. I think that says a lot about your maturing as a person and I'm proud of your own. You. You didn't stick with that. Love of Bruce. Willis is like the ultimate Dude Oh man look at this guy and you're probably onto like what like more of Jeff Bridges type of admiration yeah. I feel like once you reach a certain age transfer Willis to Jeff Bridges and you're like, Oh, I should have always felt this way, but you can't. It's impossible like Jeff Bridges one. He doesn't make that many movies that kids and teenagers see and number two is just a deeper sort of dude that eventually we'll get old and we'll find jeff bridges to be smug and that's when it's all. Charles. Turning all the time and we just know that Charles turning is just like the coolest guy with the summer smoothest moves I mean that's the most logical progression. Surrealistic. Jeff Bridges Charles. Yeah and then you die and you go all the way back around and you're like Eric von Stroheim has gone on all these movies recent evil German, amazing. Okay. Anyway. So Eddie he gets out of jail right as he's leaving the doors his best friend. That's right. John Tommy five tone. Danny. Aiello pulls up in his in his car he hands him and Espresso, which is he knows is the thing that or it's A cappuccino thing that he knows that that Eddie wants more than anything else and I have to imagine he must have gotten it before driving to the prison so it must be so lukewarm by now if not cold but bruce, Willis just cannot wait to have this cold coffee in a in a Diner Cup they go back to five tones Tommy's bar, which is I guess a co owner of maybe In the time he was imprisoned it went from a firm Kuok kind of probably not guys who are connected but guys who want to be connected. You know kind of the old neighborhood type type guys it turned into a real Yuppie hang out that even has the most horrible food. Bruce. Willis can imagine reindeer goat cheese pizza. Now let's stop for a moment. Is it goat cheese pizza with reindeer meat or is it that when you make reindeer cheese? You also call it goat cheese because it's more similar to go cheese inconsistency than couches Dan you're the culinary expert please explain what is Reindeer Pizza? You know I guess this would like all right when I heard it I thought it was referring to a type of sees the whole thing was referring to a type of cheese and I thought that because later in the movie Bruce Willis says go back to your reindeer goat cheese that was the thing and not like the pizza was not an important part of that but reindeer meat with goat cheese. Definitely would make more logical sense I will say that this is how you also you know what time period this is because worst. Threat America's racing was yuppies and. Yuppies. Let's kind of like when we watched Howard the duck that live show is. Janelle when we watch Howard the duck, it was like just it was just a joke that a restaurant would serve Sushi the idea of a fusion restaurant that had sushi in. It was like instant instant joke that dates that movie now Gordon imdb Trivia Bruce. Willis also mentions ranger goat cheese pizza in the last scout. So does that mean these movies are in the same cinematic universe the Reindeer Goat Visa Cinematic Universe GCP see you. He must have had one bad experience with reindeer goat cheese. But. Do. You think there's a chance that it was just reindeer cheese. It just happens feed the greatest of all time reindeer cheese. Oh could be it. It was sold to him as greatest of all time cheese from reindeer and he never let it go. Okay. Yes. Now it makes perfect sense. Thank you stuart. For explaining that to me. Now. Here is where a mobster gets Russa's attention by shooting the Espresso Cup out of his hand. The fact that that bullet would not be would not be stopped by the Cup but would instead go keep going and kill someone never intended to similar much. Later in the movie Bruce Willis a bullet bounces off his belt buckle which is crazy. That's. A big crazy belt buckle just a regular men's belt buckle that killed him. And this also sets up the character arc for the entire movie, which is will will search for Cappuccino being thwarted at every turn. This is kind of birds of prey egg sandwich situation. This was very frustrating this. Every time he wants a Cappuccino, you just get a real discreet charm of the bourgeoisie. That's going on in the background of this movie where he just cannot get that Cappuccino. Streams with a lot of people lately for I. Don't know what the reason I'd be talking about. Now but But I was saying that my most common type of stress dream is there is a relatively simple task that I need to perform I want to perform and things keep hitting my way. So. Why did an example of simple tasks? Like I. There was one where it's just like I have to like. Look up something and I can't. I. Can't get the computer to work I can't find a reference book all this like I I. Mean I forget my dreams pretty quickly because they're also extremely elaborate. Luke. Baroque nonsense that keeps shifting genre. Elaborate things yeah. Oh I see what's happening here. I. Get I get the Bit. For, this session is All right. Fair enough. He did the work. Prescription for one hundred milligrams of nobody cares. You. Ten Times a day. Getting fascinated by your subconscious it's a crazy place. Okay. So it turns out the Cup was shot his hand by some thugs led by these mobsters, the Mario Brothers get it. It's a joke one two brothers Frank. Stallone is the brains of the group which gives you an indication of the level of these mobsters they. Recognize Frank Stallone because he looks exactly like his brother. Only a little less drew. It looks like a guy who got surgery to look like Sylvester stallone that's. He, they want him to pull off this heist of the auction house. The same that parole officer was trying to get him do and any. He smashes a wine bottle over one of their heads and they leave, but they are still threatening him. So he's got a he's got to go do this this heist he just got outta jail as he continues to remind everybody throughout the movie. As they're preparing, they're going over the robbery plan and Dany Iowa's quizzing. Eddie on the lengths of different songs. This is his amazing skill besides being a cat burglar is he knows the exact length to the second of every song that you ask him according to MTV. Goose he's often wrong in his answers, but the movie takes them as we can totally correct. If those two things are unrelated but they are joined facts. The reason why he's such a good cat burglar is because he knows all the lengthy songs because that is his timing. Watch is the link songs I wonder if that's something that is a way of them trying to like make him into a fantasy faker it's like well, I can never be a cat burglar but I do know how long that song is like these music nerds like, Hey, maybe I could do it to. The. Thing that. Seems so weird for me to object to the reality of this in Hudson Hawk the movie Hudson. Hawk. But the thing that bothered me is I feel like if this was a guy, he's like I know the link to the second of every Sinatra Song or old standard like, yes. Sure. But it seems like he knows every song in that like he's asked about Mariah Carey singing the national anthem at. The Super Bowl. Well, at one point you mentioned in the goofs. On that he says that the it takes he's they say, how long has Whitney Houston sing the national anthem goes seven minutes and in actuality it was like someone else saying in at that Super Bowl and the minutes, and then it's only after that that it was like, yeah. Seven minutes is a crazy amount of time to sing the national anthem. is she singing every verse? Even the bad ones like the ones that are that are offensive like what is like? I know when you're like a soul or or or hip hop typing are really extend those syllables and you can really extend song like that seems like a for the national anthem. You've got to believe that the Super Bowl producers were tapping their watches and they're like. She's issues eating into the commercial time like we cannot, and we we need to. We need to have the premiere of friends right after the super. Bowl we said in the commercials right after the super. Bowl like we just pull her Mike she can't even finish. We'll just we'll just end on a on rockets red glare and we don't need the rest of the song like come on. was was finding out that piece of information was at the straw that broke the camel's back and you're like I don't know what to trust any. Or is it a cake fly I'm I'm just like The guy in Maltese Falcon almost got hit by girder I walked away from my family walked away from my job I. Just said I live in a world where there are no standards and I've got a I've got a start over a new and that's why I gotta tell everybody. This is my last episode of the Flop House. Next week we started I'll be starting my new podcast. Hey, what which is me discount of not knowing what things are going on just kidding this is my last absolute podcast I'm going to do probably thousand were episodes. Yeah I would say to I would be perfectly happy for this to be moved over to incorrectly regarded as goofs under the assumption that the Hawk just fucking with him if not for as Roman says the fact that this is integral to his cat burglar Ring Lake to know the leagues of the also. To meet enjoying the movie at all. You have to tell you this interesting is what? Is. It's ridiculous of this premise. What's funny is when the Shatters Coffee Cup and he does a Jack Benny slow-burn look that's when I started realizing I don't think this movie is on the level and the this movie might be messing with me. This really pulls it off, but it's really one of those things that shows you the the mix of tone in that. Sometimes, violences just goofy the Coffee Cup exploding in. Violence is a bunch of syringes in your face and it's sort of like the tone of this thing just bounces back and forth and he's incredible ways that also is crazy and it gets increasingly cartoony. I'm sure somebody do the ALGEBRAIC. That talks about the increasing rapid rate of cartoonist as the movie goes on and by the end of it I was just like all right like I can't even like I don't even I cannot pretend to care what happens to these characters as we'll see when when James Coburn's martial arts abilities caused Bruce Willis to be trapped in a just sniffling at the waist looped on walks animation. Yea. So they go and they do they're going to do this elaborate job they gotta take us a pool lifesavers to get on a rope and walk across this building and the whole, and they've got a switch, the security tapes so that the guards don't notice and the whole time they are having a ball, they are laughing are joking, there is no suspense on their part they they are. So this is really got to me because it was like they are so confident in their abilities to pull off this heist that no point to they ever betrayed that they're even taking it seriously or care that much about it. Well. There's also this constant patter of like kind of busting each other's balls. That's all of it's in the form of jokes like like Bruce Willis clearly thought that these were jokes but none of them are really funny. The. Yeah Banter. Aiming like, Hey, you're fat. Danny I L A. Hey no you're looking good looking good you fat so Like that's basically the level, the classic high trope of not telling each other what they're going to do during this elaborate heist is. Always amazes me especially since they had a scene right before this where they're supposed to be going over the plan for the highest but they keep surprising each other and it's almost like they are. They're their heist coupled has been doing this for so long they're so bored with each other the only way they can keep the spark alive is to constantly surprise each other in the highest room and just kind of keep kind of keep mullan tricks so that they keep each other on their toes like it's like, Oh let's let's role play during this highest. Let's say during this heist that I'm the school principal. On Your Naughty student. Okay. But we're still stealing a horse statue from an auction of Tacky Horse Art, right? Yes. Of course that's exactly what we're doing, but maybe I handcuff you but like fuzzy handcuffs like that's what it feels like they really to get the spark back in. Yeah. They've got this elaborate song base timing thing and I kept wondering like so does the timing of the song figure in like the way that they're going everywhere really slowly because they're dancing along their own singing and is it like figuring the fact that after the heist, they just kind of stand around congratulating each other for a while The problem is that the song it the idea of a high time to a song is a really neat idea and you could build a real neat. Sequence about it, but it fails for these reasons one smug up the WAZOO here. So smuggled. You they're singing, would you like to swing on a star which is I'm just going to say it a dumb song. It's a standard, but I think it's a really dumb song three. It doesn't like you're saying it does not line up with any of the things that they're actually doing and for it's not the same length as the heist. So they do end up having all this. Dead Time at the end or they're just killing time when they should be leaving you know. I am glad that you brought up the song. Would you like to swing on a star because I was thinking about after the movie I'm like I like that song I think the tune for instance is is great and like the the the chorus I like quite a bit but there's two problems with at one. It posits a that you the listener doesn't know what various animals are and need them explain to you and to it gives this world to where your your two options are either being turned into an animal or swinging on a star, which I don't think I can't relate to that I to be. Honest. There's a fantasy movie in the world that Song describes where you reach the age of like what thirteen and you have a choice of either becoming a celestial being who cannot interact with the physical world like you swing on stars. That's how you control your trajectory as a spirit being through space and you get to see all these amazing wonders you're part of the ether and part of the firmament of the heavens but you can't enjoy your life or you become the lowest of brute animals and you can take part in the physical pleasures of life feeding eating rutting pooping, but you'll never know any of the higher pursuits of. The Cosmos. And so I mean that's I mean, maybe it's not a movie. Maybe it's like a short story. But I mean, maybe that's maybe that's what the song is about that as it comes out now it's just two guys who like every Italian man of a certain age believes he can sing just like Tony Bennett and and it's just belting it out while kind of like half chuckling to himself and they're like it's really seems to get in the way of the robbery. That's what the problem is that I have with it. But they do manage to steal the scale model of DAVINCI's horse. Their mischief gets noticed they've gotTA run from the Guards Bruce. Willis, bonds their heads together and it makes like a bank Hanna sound effect, which is the kind of thing I. Always Love. You you've got to prepare for in some way come out of nowhere. I gotta I gotTA. Know this is like. If. Just. Let me know ahead of time as the kind of movie where I'm GonNa be able to hear. You might hear see someone running here. Bongo noises at the same time I just need to, for instance, the highs could be taking place in toontown or something right? Exactly like for instance, when in the moment and God's will a final wars road ends wings flap and create a wind and a cop's hat and a pimps hat fly off their heads and here, Z.. By that point, you know this is the kind of movie where there might be a sound effect when someone's hat flies on their head, it's not totally taking you surprise but I digress they managed to escape by jumping off the skyscraper an awning that rips almost instantly manages to break their fall and rather than having all their bones shattered were dying they end up in the apartment of Eddie's parole officer he's delivering the Horse and that's when. A new character enters the first of an increasing series of goofy characters as a kind of Butler assassin in English Butler assassin comes in and he dresses like a Butler and has a bowler hat and they has an English accent. So everyone just assumes he's a Butler and he does turn out to be a butler. So I thought it was just a quick that Brazil's. Making but no, he was accurately identifying in the wild this life-form, the English Butler he he accepts the horse and then smashes it inside is one of the pieces of the gold making machine. Then for some reason, he uses a retractable knife in his sleeve to kill Hawks Parole officer by slashing his throat open. Don't know why he did that and then he leaves. And he doesn't kill the other witnesses. He just he just does that now this was also the first moment in the movie where it was like real hardcore violence and again in the tone of it was like again, if a Hong Kong movie, it'd be like Yup I'm ready to see someone's head exploded and then see where someone cries over their best friend being in the hospital. And then a scene where someone slipping on paint and they just fall down and get all paint Nessie. But again in an American movie I was like, ooh, that was more extreme than I thought it was going to be how did you guys take? How did it affect you guys Roman sitting in the theater we were like Whoa cool or you re like, what were you just like? You just like not paying attention or maybe it got up to use the bathroom at that point. Time but I definitely feel it today, which is like that doesn't that you know I was pretty down within the type of violence that could happen. At the time. Yeah and so now I notice it as being sort in Congress. But. But I like the whole scene starts with him. You know they they jumped to the morning and then it cuts to him falling through onto the Barcalounger in the apartment and so and again, this is one of those things where I'm like. I don't know if I want more of that movie, but at least it's something you know there's you know and then and then he comes in with the knife and slits a throat and here's what the fuck is going on. And there's a, there's a better version of that exempt later in the movie but there was a moment where I was like wait. Did he falsehood awning or did he fall through the roof of an apartment or? Is there an apartment under the sidewalk under the awning and he felt like it's a very confusing cut. It's like this is a it's a movie that it's almost like a movie. That's like it's like an optometrist like it like this. Do you like it like this number one they're better number two better if it's heist thriller or better of its goofy comedy that are fit, super violent or better. If it's a, it's hamburgers becks better. If they say the swimmers a lot or better if the jokes are like things that a ten year old would enjoy it's it's I guess what I'm saying is Hudson Hawk has something for everybody put it on the DVD box. House is. Shown up yet? No, he about. The next say the robbery has been weird thing is stood asset. Next day the robbery has been covered up. The auction is still going on for this horse statue eighty goes the auction to see what's going on. He's like how much does a Tuxedo causal and then you see him in the most nine hundred, ninety, one CEO in Rome core design expert please claiming he shows up like member of the Revolution Princess Revolution and it is just. And if you could, you know if there's a still an image that represents nineteen ninety-one. Like this is it is beautiful. This it is nice. Padded shoulders no tie because who has time for that nonsense comfortable. Tuxedo and it is cut beautifully. It is absurd socks for days like it has loafers really low loafers and just socks that just like the great. Plains. It is just. It is say it's a beautiful Tuxedo and he's not the only one to stress. Also. CEDO. You might wear if you were escorting. Cindy. Crawford. To a planet Hollywood opening you know. That's I mean that that seems like a very specific scenario. Seems to be wearing tuxedos. So I don't know why this is required of this Patel, their job it's like I. Wish there was a joke about it where it was like he thinks that every auction is like a black tie event. So he's an Tuxedo and everyone else is just kind of like suits but there's also yeah, what with no time? Yeah. But there's also. A bunch of people who were not you who they are, but they're also very, they're also dressed up like Dick Tracy villains circa one, thousand, ninety, one in the back one of them being that's right the star of Jade David Caruso. We'll get to him. They ask. Wasn't I'm like. Okay. Well, if you haven't seen NYPD blue and you have no idea what jade, this'll be left in white people who for is I don't know and I'm like Oh yeah. Later on I'm like Oh. Yeah he's in that show. That's the. That's the current David. Caruso contract. Like a twelve year old David Caruso context, but it's Chris it's hard. It'd be hard to explain to someone what a big deal it was that David Caruso left NYPD blue after one season to make Jay like I was a kid and I remember it being something that I was aware of that show I had never watched the scar of it never heard of before was leaving to make a movie. I would never see somebody's. Thriller. Big Deal and he was going to be in day he was going to be in the Astor House follow up basic instinct like. Oh. Man. It was a simpler time by which I mean a time when the decisions of white men were just of a higher importance inflated important. Some would say. An unreal unnecessary importance so He goes to the auction house and he knows that this horse is fake because he stole the Horse and yet auction expert Andie macdowell attests that the horse is real by holding briefly for a moment. It pulled me a brief visit tries to first of a series of time in which people touch priceless artifacts. With their bare hands which really stress lot. Later when he steals a Leonardo. Da Vinci Codex and he's just pulling it. He's at like shoots it with a dart and pulls it with a grappling hook up into the air and I was like that thing is falling apart there's no way. It's Also before he knows it. Andie. McDowell is the appraiser. He kind of like tries to hit on her by saying something about Oh I guess if you WanNa get into art you have to look constipated Warthog Warthog or something like that and I'm like, okay off. That's terrible. Picket Line Second League. She's at the art auction. Why would you think that insulting people at an art auction would be the way to go. Ironically It's clear that she notices the horse and also the gloves that could've helped to build the suspense like he's like Oh, she's GonNa know it's a fake as she's putting the gloves on and getting ready but they don't do that just picks it up. She knows it's a fake she looks at him and then says, oh, it's real. It's the Real Davinci horse statue that's when who bursts in but the best character one of the. Two best characters in the whole movie. That's right. Darwin mayflower the eccentric mean billionaire played by the Great Immortal Richard E grant, and this is the book I've been this movie I've been wanting to read Richard Grant's memoirs for a long time and it wasn't until I watch this movie and in doing research realized an entire chapter of his his book is about Hudson that I ordered it I was like I have to read it now. He's so. He is. He's so good at it. He's like he's the only person that movie I feel like him and Sandra Bernhardt are the only people who are accurately getting the tone of the moves, which is big and dumb and. You just walks in he walks into yells one hundred million dollars clams. Clams. I will make the objection I. Do think that there the two people get the tone and I really like Sandra Bernhardt in like. kind of as per as a persona as a performer I don't think that. Her acting is very good here in Hudson saying, are you saying the part of the the evil billionaire who wants to destroy the world by undermining the gold market with a fifteenth century machine that she didn't pull it off realistically you never believed the situation. That she sometimes has some like complex lines, but she has to spin the camera and they always sound like their lines rather where Richard e grant is like I mean I mean if you're getting if you're trying to get back into a corner, argue that Sandra Bernhardt is as good an actor as Richard. Grant I'm going to avoid that corner I'm not going in there. I'm not call me call me baby because you're not. There's a stiffness to her that I feel like as a choice, but it is definitely odd. Yeah. Whereas is really hamming it up in a way that still feels like it comes from the character in some ways you can. You can see her choices but I still think both of them like I would drop the Mayflower as as villains into any movie. So, good Hartley apparently rocket of this movie. Yeah apparently. Isn't that Tim Raphael L. yet it's Kinda girl they're evil. They're all they're trying to catch on the users. Cat Character Kit Kat I think I'm C. Connection to your guys. Connection Board over here and draw. Okay So they are they are they are incredibly evil billionaires I. Think you're right. Dan that that that Sandra Bernhardt is is much more stiffly performance live in a way that I agree Roman I think is on purpose whereas Richard e grant you imagine he could just add live in this character for one hundred dollars. Has a way of performing where he looks like he's shocked that he's allowed to get to do this. He's like. I can't believe it. Any so He jumps from off the table and he thrusts his pelvis and stuff he's just delightful. Seem like the physical manifestation of the phrase, Joie. He seems like he's the he's the guy also like that he is. It's kind of like Nicholas, cage. Kissed the vampire in that. It's like we're making this movie. It's crazy that I'm making this movie. So I'm going to go all out all the time like it's almost like he's pushing himself to have as much fun as possible because he hates the movie that he's in so much. Movie kissed the Vampire. A kiss of the vampire vampire was a booth that I had at a carnival did not go well. People did not want to kiss that vampire. I my mistakes instead of getting one of the sexy vampires I got. To and people were not crazy. Yeah Come on come on or luck put on some makeup or something. You know site those ears some rouge on those cheeks where a wig. Here's something that I learned while watching the show well, reading about movie efforts that. So originally, the villain, the early drafts was a guy then they changed it to a woman and apparently according to the thing I was reading they tried to get Audrey Hepburn to come out of retirement to play the villain in this movie which would have been bonkers it would have been incredibly bonkers. Yeah. But instead, they couldn't. So Bruce was like let's just have the man villain in the Moonville and being the same movie. Mean I I feel like the fact that they wanted her plus the fact that James Coburn is in this movie maybe they were also that points to a charade influence on what they were trying to do. I could see that it's say I mean that was also at the time when like those movies that the stars of this the people grew up on those movies you know so they wanted. To I should mention we're recording this on the day. That Olivia Havilland has has the news of her passing came around and that was a moment for me that I was very it really hit me hard that like that era of Hollywood is dead like a couple of weeks ago I made Sammy Watch the adventures of Robin Hood the Aero Flynn version, which really liked a lot and while we're watching I. In. The movie and I'm like she's still alive. Can you believe that and she was like that's amazing. I cannot tell him that anymore because at one hundred and four, she's dead you know what they say. Fame, and at a bitch and by a j Benza in old promos for each Hollywood story now. Guys. Here's. Famously from rather than the inexorable progression of time. She still be alive today if it wasn't for me. Five wasn't just for that fame. Here's the thing is that she was actually on a plane flight that was supposed to crash, but she escaped and death has been trying to Tony Todd is trying to try. Ever, since then it's been eighty years and he finally got her, we're going into less sensitive direction. So A Senator Walks in, she outbids her partner for no reason they waggled their tongues each other instantly I love these characters. The one dollar which I don't think. Sort of. One hundred and one day. Say I thought were doing a price. One, hundred, million, and one. Hundred million and one in fifty cents and the auctioneers like please. Can We? I know we're starting at a hundred million? More than the than the item was listed. But still. Caught in the weeds here. So the guard notices, Eddie Andie, macdowell trips him the auctioneers gavel than explodes as he hits it on the ground causing chaos Eddie manages to save anti McDowell from a falling pillar and then gets hit by a statute that swings on a wire, I guess. It was suspended in the above the room for some reason always on store. Yeah probably from a star, and then it made the wrong choice of became a horse So he wakes up in an ambulance. Now, we'll get to the enemy character. Later, what else learned does that Isabel was supposed to play this part also makes it makes a ton more sense as she is supposed to be Italian. He wakes up in an ambulance with Mario. Brothers. Mobsters he manages to slam a whole thing full of hypodermic needles into the dumb brothers face which for some reason causes the driver of the ambulance lose control. I couldn't quite understand what happens. When he lost control? Oh, that's what it was. Eddie escapes on a Gurney right onto the Brooklyn Bridge and we lead to my I think actually my favorite Mon in the movie when a woman in a convertible is driving by on this bridge just goes hey, are you going to die? And I don't remember if he a quick or not that I love that moment it's just like, yes, this is a movie where the bystander is if anything mildly entertaining, this man might nine extra. Somebody, throws a cigarette out their window and he catches isn't smokes it, and then he he has to throw change through the toll booth because he accidentally goes into. A really good joke I gotTA. Give it to. Head Headed toward the toll booth and he has to. Change those biker hurl it. So he doesn't get knocked off ruined only signed up. There is no toll booth there. They somehow ended up on the on going into the I think the Battery Tunnel From the Brooklyn Bridge. But anyway, the the he just keeps in the whole time finally is gurney stops at the exact place group of agents. That's right David Caruso and his gang are waiting for him. They're all named after candy bars David Caruso is named Kit Kat because he's mute don't know how they're connected. The big guy is named butter fingers because he's clumsy even though strong how he became a CIA agent is amazing because he's so jam and constantly messing things and there's two other agents also, they also seem like they really need to take a long time explaining that they're named after candy bars. especially. Considering that we all saw them. With candy bars in their pockets, 'cause they're so on brand earlier. Yeah and this movement cap manages to have preprinted dialogue cards. He hands to people that exactly fit the situation that they're in at the moment. It's a joke that should work, but it never it until the last one I feel like it never quite sore quite works. WHO WALKS OUT? That's right. It's their boss James Coburn who introduces himself as George Kaplan as a little nod for the movie. Fans out there Saint George. Kaplan. Is Dan. he is the made up a spy in north by northwest you gotTa. People think cary grant is and it's like this movie is saying, Hey, we're the heirs to that kind of filmmaking. Carrie grant like guards heads together and making a bomb because out. Okay sure. Whatever like when he was hanging off the off Mount Rushmore remember him being like, Hey, should we sing? Is this a good time to sing me and my shadow like I. Don't think. So L. L. Elliott be honest north by northwest with coconut buck better worse. I think it's a lateral move. Damn. GotTa tell you. It doesn't ruin what is a near perfect adventure movie. And it only and impress improves it. You know. So they knocked them out and then he falls into a creative packing peanuts and then is taken out of the crate. He wakes up in an empty house in Rome, and it's like this character is it's in the classic film. Noir tradition is constantly getting knocked out and waking up places, and it's almost like the movie forgot they did it already because they keep having that happen. The killer Butler is there he takes him into Mayflower high-tech Limo. It's so high tech that he has like some kind of ticker tape message fax machine that he can stuff into a shredder and the shredder just shoots the shreds out into the streets of Rome. It's like what we're can I get that car guys do they ever make that? Is it real Roman used real gearhead is that is that As far as I know I have no idea. But this reading is like is glorious. It's it's perfect, super. Villain. Says I'm the villain. He's so he's so aware of what he's doing. Now. Now, the moment they show up in Rome again, you're fifteen years older. So you're watching this movie were you like finally a movie that speaks to make? I don't know I feel like Oh totally confounded by when it when it happened. So at this point, it was I think it bludgeoned me into just accepting what was going to happen next at this point. Okay, and by this point, you're like I've seen this movie has to offer me no I. Don't think you have. because. They go to what I guess is like. The mayflower office or conference room, but it's very clearly the lobby of a large building that they've made look like an office or common showroom. Where he's meeting with his board which includes like a kid I think. It's there's like a wes Anderson touched who is on at the board of this of this corporation. Senator. Sitting in the middle of the table kind of barking out the lyrics to I've got the power on her Walkman. We never actually hear the song which is kind of saying it out loud and also her dog bunny is there right who is a little dog always chasing after his ball ball which in a hilarious mix up he's gets what lodged under Bruce Willis his testicles while he's handcuffed to a chair something and he's just the dog sniffing around in his crotch it's a real Benin style. Joke is that Bruce Willis and Serbian concerned actually enjoying it right. Yeah Yeah, actually, you know what it is, it's the trail soap before I had ever seen any Sasha Baron Cohen stuff I was visiting my college girlfriend who is studying in England, and we went to see a movie and they showed the trailer for to Ali G. Movie Beforehand, and I was not aware of this character I had seen the bus ads all over. London every bus. Had An ad where he was just pointing guns at the at the personal I had no idea who his character was didn't know and the entirety of the trailer was him waking up thinking a woman was filleting him but it was actually his dog and then realizing he was enjoying it and going back to sleep and I was like don't care for it. Not My material. Thank you. So this is. The newspaper he's Redick. And then Bruce Willis then has one of my favorite lines. He Goes I. Guess I guess we see who wears the penis in the family, which is such a dumb quip that was like all right. I'll give you points for it. That's a dump. Also There's There I read I think it was a New York magazine article about the making of this movie and apparently Bruce Willis, wanted to say something more along the lines of like I guess who has the she? We know who has the Dick or something like that and he kept doing it and they're like, okay could we try one where you say I guess we see who wears the Peterson the family because like at least that's not a good joke when it's a play on a phrase rather than what the other thing would be and he did it literally one time after they did like twelve takes. US The one where he actually said the line because that's what's Personal Bruce Willis for Ya. That's what's called a winner, which is the single perfect take. That comes after twelve bad takes. Roman I want to know we usually don't do this much research before episodes I. Think we were intimidated that you were coming on and so we actually wanted to know something about this movie. May, flowers. We put real work into this which you wouldn't know from the when you first joined us on the skype call. We had no idea what we're doing and we're making it up as we went along. So. The mayflower want world domination, they threaten the. Relation is based on light chaos, right? They WANNA, throw the world the case because they've already made so much money. There's no challenge in that anymore and I feel like that in Nineteen ninety-one no villainous scarier than one that wants to upset the capitalist order. Well because that was at a time when it was, it was still a time when every kid's movie was about the loss of control of a corporation or whether a businessman was going to be able to find his soul. So people just took it for granted back then that capitalism rocked. And you know that. Capitalism rules and human empathy rules just the way they felt back then. So they threat they're like if you don't go and steal this Da Vinci Codex from the Vatican we're GONNA throw your friend Tommy Danny. Ilo. In jail and he's like Danny he would never be able to survive it. He's too old now. So Edie goes to the Vatican he cases the joint He. Uses a bratty kid stuffed animal she's literally just slamming stuffed animal into a banister in. You'd think the Swiss guard would take her down almost instantly like the Vatican's seems like a pretty heavily guarded place in real life. But instead, there's just three goofy guards just likely auction house in America and yes are they eating spaghetti while they're watching the cameras? Yes. Eating Spaghetti because it's Rome. And he asked me something you guys. About. This young girl with the Who the stuffed animal. She I looked at actress up. Twelve when she made this but to me, she looked about thirty did you have the? Issue at all I didn't. But. Back then dressed older. People like if you watch Seinfeld now the characters are supposed to be younger than me but they dress like my grandparents and I think people back people now dress young like you can go to work as a middle aged man like me. Let's say wearing t shirt jeans but back then like people dressed older than they were not as much as in the fifties. were. Suits, but slightly speaking of older covering go ahead. No says I say Stewart's covering his face in his hands and I'm not quite sure why he was so dismayed by Mike my question but it was just it was weird to me because I was like, why is that old person pretending to? Cast that old person like is this the producer of the movie like yeah wanted a weird. Cameo. Stewart did some research and knows that that girl actually had jacks disease. Twelve she was physically forty-eight like like. Williams in the hit film Jack Wipe. Dressing. I this is where you really start to notice Bruce Willis's penchant for high waisted pants in this scene like he has. He has a blue t shirt tucked into. He looks like he's dressed like a six year old mafia boss in this scene and you realize Oh. Yeah. He always wore highways depends just because he had black T. shirt on, you didn't quite notice it as much as. The wardrobe is just fantastic in this movie in fact so much so that it gets its own credit before. The before the cast and crew are announced at the end of the movie, it is really glorious. It's. It's funny that you bring up the highway pants because I feel like that's another connection. We mentioned birds of prey earlier and I was kind of thinking about birds of prey when I was watching this movie because birds of prey feels like it has a connection to that like ninety s like glitter bomb action comedy thing and yet. That movie also features Christmas Sinoe wearing high waisted pants as as and I remember watching that movie and being like could I pull those off the answer is And also Hawk as a bird of prey short put up on your connections Hudson Hawk poke them on birds of prey they're all related. I mean, have you check way? Ring Reindeer goat cheese inside birds of prey. I have not seen it. But if you do then that's it seals it. It's all. Yeah. Same Alpar, the ranger goat cheese. Talked about the fact that along with this being written or co co written by. The person who wrote heathers the director now? One of my favorite movies, but he also directed Stewart's least favorite movie, forty days and forty. Now. Hudson Hawk is clearly one of your favorite movie Stewart where does Michael? Lehmann now rank in your estimation. Oh, I mean that's a huge hit. I don't know. I mean, that's what remember. Remember my favorite movie The taking Pelham onto directed by Joseph Sargent who also directed jaws for the revenge. So it's okay to like a movie someone who made a forty days and forty nine hundred that that's the Josh Hartnett one. We. Have heard you talk about it but the is that does that take place in San Francisco I think it I mean it takes place at like a tech company. So I can only assume because I was living in Vitro Hill in San Francisco in. The movie that they shut down my street to film. Man Even maybe I could have put a stop to that movie for You Stuart. So someone Radicalizing Roman against that as well. There reminds me of the day. I couldn't walk down the street in New York because they were. Shooting Little Nicky starring Adam Sandler as. The. Devil product. When I finally saw the movie I was like that was worth inconveniencing me a little bit. Okay. So andie macdowell also there she's leading a tour of the Vatican which at this point is we got our be like what is her job? She is like an art authenticate our end she leaves towards the Vatican. Eddie uses that stuffed animal from that middle aged little girl and sets off the security things which involves like these like telescoping gates that close around this codex. And in some Kyrie. Look, very. Yes, and also they look you could just snap. They kind of look like the crystals in the form of solitude. Yeah. Very snapple. Yeah. Andie McDowell Takes Eddie into the Vatican's secret postal subway tunnels, which could be real thing. I don't know it's not that out of the question you know they do have a subway in Vatican City but the one that A. The one that they show is the mail rail in. London actually. Okay I guess they didn't get permission from the Vatican to shoot. I. News actually like. Like it's it's it's actually the world's shortest away. Apparently it's like. Less than a mile but that's not what they're showing their. That's actually a passenger railway like the smaller gauge meal railway is a from London and I think that's what the. NC. They, agree to have dinner that night enemy towel seems to find Bruce Willis irresistible even though he is smug and gross and she just saw him try to rob something. They're gonNA to have that, and that's when we learn. She's a secret agent for the Vatican may mean Eddie doesn't know that yet, but we know and she's a secret agent. She reports that he's planning to rob the place to hear her boss was was a cardinal. This is again one of those moments were when I found it was supposed to be as clean as like again makes so much so much better. Yeah. Totally would would would have made more sense though I mean, I'm Gonna I'm going to be honest McDowell is my third favorite performer in the movie because she really sells it especially at the end when she is faking being. Being out of her mind her. Cap Energy Lakers sort of Sitcom Madcap Energy and everything that is totally solid like there's nothing wrong with it just would have made the tone of it would make more sense with an absurdist, Isabella? Rossellini. Performance I think yeah. Yeah. Other than sex lies and videotape I'm not like a big fan of early Andie macdowell like I think she's become very good sort of character actor lately. I like to earn ready or not recently but but like you know I mean I think she in Groundhog Day for me. The best you can say about the movie is like she does not make it bad and I didn't like her and four weddings and a funeral that much. But here like, yeah, the I thought her she was very funny in a lot of it. She's good in a movie called shadrack they came out years ago but the right after I watched this actually ended up watching ready or not, and it was like any McDowell then and now I like it when I get to see an extra different points in their career one after another that's the power of movies and I've got to wait like another twenty years until I can have that effect again when I watch ready or not, and then I like the remake of cocoon she's. Not the next generation when they bring her as a cameo. Yes. She, goes back. I guess is like a ghost know anyway and he tries to deny yellow, but he can't get him on the phone. Why is that? Because as we see in the background behind Eddie DNA Ellison Rome already just getting into a fancy car and the CIA is like Eddie you gotTa Rob the Vata Tonight you gotTa do it. There's a little bit of comedic violence and anyway let's get to the Robbery. Showy Eddie males himself to the Vatican using his cat burglar tricks, which essentially is put himself in a box and mailing it to the Vatican and getting on the train, and then just popping his head out of the crate while he's on that train, it's a shot that I actually really love where he's. He's got this wild eyed look on his face while he's he's on this train the Italian guards again just. As bad as the American Guards Eddie steals the Codex with a fishing hook. As we mentioned, that would almost certainly destroy this five hundred year old manuscript to be flung through the air on a fishing hunting but maybe they had rebound recently or maybe I know it's I. Mean old paper is strong paper eliminated the whole thing it's unreal lambskin. It's not on that newsprint that they used for for for books. Now, he narrowly escapes getting caught jumps off a double decker bus or something and lands in the chair at the table where India McDowell is sitting. That was the moment in the movie where I was like that worked for me like to have him on his madcap chasing end up. Exactly. We're supposed to be unlike all right movie. Now I get what you're doing and I'm going to force myself to be on board. The agents at another table which bothered me Bruce. Willis. Ask for Pasta in impeccable. Italian. That's for catch up to I don't know it doesn't really just to piss off the waiter. I don't know why yeah and there's no payoff has expect him to use the bathroom and. It seemed like a thing that was going to have a payoff in late. They're gonNA use the bottle to do something like toward the agents and the next table. But I I wonder if there's a scene where they do that whereby. Feels like something that feels like half of a joke like legitimately yeah. There's a number of things in the movie that do feel like half jokey where he save catch up and then use it as fake blood when. They came killing it Danny I L L later. Del Spoiler Alert Sumer not up to it but yes, probably do use it. Isn't. It's such a tenuous connection that you can never connected between that. Is that actually what happens if they do say it? He says Catch Danielle O. says something about the chest but it's Gotten catch up in between. It's not only is there. No could have gotten catcher, but he doesn't know at that moment that Danielle city. Planning to fake someone's death someone. What happens? When when Christopher Priest's was writing the black. Panther Count Book and Black Fans are always had these amazing schemes that he without scheme other people and it got to the point where it was like. Okay. So do you just know everything that everyone's GonNa do fifteen moves ahead because there's no way you could have planned for the or In. What's the which is the bond movie with Javier Bardem is that quantum of solace? In the moment sky fall when they're in the sewers and that subway train comes through and blocks James. Bond it's like so did you out everything around the subway schedule? That was not a lucky break like you're acting like that was part of the plan but. It's unbelievable Oh. Oh. Unbelievable Jordan just put in that sound hit fleas. Believable E. Say. Missile, let's I. Mean You just yesterday Dan you were like, what can we do for emf in this hard time? Probably hurting. Things are so unbelievable right now that nobody is listening to that song and. They can't tour I mean. Only have the one song. What are they going to perform at once and then get off the stage come back to the same non-core and then leave no one's paying ticketmaster or or a live nation sub charges for that. You know it's possible. So I guess what I'm saying is this Dr Please reach out to see what you can do. Any McDowell is giving Eddie a massage at her apartment learns that he was in prison explains his he explains his nickname, which is that the wind that comes off the Hudson is called the Hawk because it's so cold I guess and so he was given the name Hudson Hawk because he's a cool customer. It's not super clear. Yeah. That's also a Chicago story that's not the Hudson is notorious for its coldness. The winds coming off the Hudson candy can be cold sometimes but you're right. It's not as cold as Chicago ones but that's what they call. New York the Windy City. She's like, Oh, I like it that you were in jail. She takes she goes back through before the list they go back to replace me massage. They start making out when she gets a signal from her boss through the form of a crucifix on her wall that lights up and then just has voices coming out of it, which is a Hilariously, not subtle way for a secret agent to get a message, it may be well, they're entertaining someone in their apartment who doesn't know that their secret agent it seems like there's no way to like. Or anything. And she sees the Codex in his bag and she's like wait you did rob the Vatican tonight she's surprised Meanwhile, this is the weirdest joke in the movie. I could not understand the agents are outside on a stakeout watching and one goes. Up there and Butterfinger the begun goes want me to rape them and I was like what? Right like the subtitle said it to, and it was one of the it was just like another one, thousand, nine, hundred, one joke where I'm like this is not a joke that would fly. At any other point in history maybe except at a time when like it was I, don't know what it was. Okay to be additional understand Dan explain it. You Love you love jokes about sensitive subjects. Is Busy Up. I was I was busy looking up em F. on wikipedia. There were thing we could like a 'cause we could support and that there is no big tragedy sensitive to. Want, one of their basis did pass away from a drug. Overdose. But. Let's see here. It's It was during the third the second reunion. Wait it boggles my mind. They've broken up and reunited three times. This isn't something that happened like a couple of months ago. No, no, no no. Also they Did A lot of. Relief work for aid. So I think it's I think it's good for us to 'em. Cool. Thank you. Dan You know I. Wasn't really suggesting that people send him money. I hate to I. Appreciate that you did our due diligence on this. Yeah, I'm glad you realized glad you ascertain that the NFL's in that media middle of things that are neither too good nor too bad for us to make. The joke that you just mentioned. There's a couple of jokes earlier in the movie that are I think? And later in the movie, they're kind of insensitive and I think it just speaks to a time where the entire like editorial board was just a bunch of white guys being like doesn't offend me that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. There's There's a moment early in the film where it's like. One of the guards is is making a joke at the expense of a Chinese person. About that and that's Like Oh this is bad and then they do those. Music Yeah. Okay come on movie I should have made a note about that. That was that was bad. That's The. I it's like I was explaining Gremlins to to me the other day and I got to the part about the Asian tourists with a camera and I was like Can I remove that from the movie? There was a time in history when it was hilarious the. Cameras of the stereotypes I've never really understood I. Guess Because I was at the time that I'm like, what? What, what, like, what kind of stereotype is will you know those types of people they love visiting other places and bringing home memories with them? Let's make. They look to expand their horizons travel and they love to remember the moment in a photo. That's hilarious. That Elliott that that was the first time kind of in history that there was an influx of more Asian tourists to America, and just the simple fact that they took cameras around which any human would do on their vacation then became stereotype. Very, it's a str-. It's sometimes they're stereotypes that I. Just I just there. I guess the rooted in that in that one moment of history anyway. So I guess what I'm saying is guys I can no longer wholeheartedly endorsed. Gremlins to I can only endorse. Movie except for that one character. So. Anyway. She mcdonagh NFL Drugs Eddie tells the CIA that she wants to see Kaplan because everybody is working together and knows I don't know why she she like act surprised that he committed the robbery even though everyone in Rome seems to be working together and knows that Eddie's committing this robbery and they go oh no, it's a end James Coburn's like it's. A sting operation we're going to catch the the mayflower and for some reason goes okay. Now we've got to get you back to Rome but don't worry we have a body double and David crucial is wearing the same dress as McDowell and a wig for no reason. Again, this is like the first half of a joke and it's never paid off. There's no like. Like there's no reason she needs a body double not the we're never seen a situation where like he could. He can convince someone who start it doesn't make sense. Eight McDowell talks for Boston confessional. And we find out she's not just a secret agent she a nun. That's right. She's a battle nine or a warrior nun whatever that independent comment from years ago it's. Really it is. Just. Just launch like a week or two ago. It's crazy. Oh i. didn't know about that. That was one of those things I would see in the back of the previews catalog and I'd be like I don't know that will ever find out what this really is. The Vatican. Wants to keep the gold machine from wrecking the world economy because I mean it makes sense the Vatican owns lot of gold But if there's anything that the teachings of Jesus tell us it is that is very important to have a functioning global economy based on precious metals and that that he's I remember he says I think at one point two Peter he said you will be the Rock on which my church is built and through which we will regulate capitalism to ensure that people can still make loads of money through the accumulation of commodities and peters. Let me get all this down. This is a big job hold on a second. So the mayflower they're mad at Hudson Hawk. I don't remember why they get the last gold machine bits from the Codex right? It's like every dimension steals they have to break to get the machine parts that are inside of it. And manoeuvre kills her henchmen kind of as a joke Hudson Hawk steals something. That I don't remember seeing elite around we find out what it is I guess, and the next couple of minutes are just everyone taking turns overacting hysterically largely. Hudson Hawk gets out of his handcuffs and starts dancing with manoeuvre shouting at them while they stand there watching him and then he stops and watches as Richard E grant over. Axon. Just flops around for a while it's the scene makes no sense. It's like the worst improv exercise of ever see. Keep it in the movie whatever. Okay. The, and so the mayflower say my notes, they explain their plan to make gold and undermine the world. So they can dot dot dot question mark. It's never really clear what the end game is and now he's gotTa go rob the Lou to get a model of DAVINCI's helicopter flying machine, and he's like how much globe-trotting robbery am I going to have to do? That's when he like I don't WanNa do this anymore and they say take it up with our partner. It's Danny Aiello. That's right. He set up somehow not sure how he did it not sure what they needed him. For it's not clear. He's played except I guess in doing the first robbery with them it's unclear what he has to do with any of it. They fight he seems to get shot during the fight and they're both taken away in an ambulance. Hey, guess what guys said it was a fake fight, the oldest gagging the books, the old pretend to fight with your partner so that you can knock over the guy holding a gun on you. And Stole part of the gold machine and they're like, you did it we saved the day well but. Here's what I don't understand because like it was a genuine. Betrayal Trail Eddie just forgive some for it because. Danny Alo's like, no, no. No. This is wrong. I shouldn't have done this lake. He'd like, here's my gauges at the. Taylor, WHO's Super Chairman Gain I. Miss Him Every day. Here's. Baffled by win, they set up this fake. Death Scheme. Rainy were fighting and Bruce Willis Mad Danny Aiello started singing like i. only have eyes Frig you or something and Bruce Willis sang along with him or a like a fly me to the moon. That's what it would been saying fly me to the moon the joins do it, and then and then bruce goes hey. Plan forty-nine be and I'll go yeah, forty nine and that's all they know because they got their Karuk shorthand and they they know that's the fake fight so that I can pretend to be shots that the Vatican ambulance can take me away plan because that's just how good they are Dan. That's just how good. I mean I wouldn't say idiot I would say moron but you know that's Just. Keep a medical terms here. Yeah. Yeah they're celebrating at McDonald's apartment Eddie tries to get any sleep with him even though her bed is just behind like a thin see-through scrim. So I guess like Daniella would just watch the whole time. We're. Really focused on the TV and pretend his friend was not having sex feet away from him or maybe just the kinds of friends like in wolf of Wall Street who have sex in front of each other I don't know that never gets answered because Antidote McDowell makes them sleep on the couch. The next morning, the shows up wakes them up injected with a poison that paralyzes them from the next down so that they can. Be. I would think this. would. Hamper their ability to overact but no. Most Acting you can imagine. All of the energies, all the chief from the rest of their body is channeled up into their face not since that not since the head shaking demons from Jacob's ladder as there been such head and neck over overacting motion in. Dreams. Coburn is there and he's like, Hey, you don't have to rob the Lube I did I, did it instead of you? We killed a bunch of guards. Here's the helicopter model breaks it open here's the gold machine peace and it's like, hey, why did they come here to tell them? This seems unnecessary. It seems like it can only hurt their plan to. Hudson Hawk and Tommy who are about to go home to get them back makes up in the plot. Why would you do I? Don't know They just dropped by to explain to the audience know there won't be a third highest. Don't worry got bored of the highest. Do that move. Or they introduce they introduce a weapon that's like a Bazooka that fires these rockets stick to things and have a timer on them and I do love the introduced this this bullshit. And then it shows up multiple times for the rest of the movie. It's very like Wolfenstein or do or whatever with just. That was my question is where do they even they held onto it? Where do they get probably very unique AMMO, the Suction Cup time bomb missiles but also the timer doesn't seem to matter that much because they shoot one onto the wall and has a two minute timer. Then they another one accidentally gets shot to see agents far hedonistic two minute timer the far one goes off first and then the heroes run away and then the other I goes off. Yeah, the timers at zero and then they're like, hey, maybe we should jump out the window. Timers give you a little bit of leeway once. Call that the margin error in any explosive may flowers they kidnap enemy dowell they want her to decipher Davinci's plans. So they can build the gold machine that never really matters because they've already built the gold machine. And but she pretends that she is still. Babbling gibberish from the drug injected her with this is I think was a pretty funny bit for me and that she thinks she's a dolphin and has to talk to other dolphins and McDowell really gives it her all Eddie. Tony. They use that that the Zucca that shoots Suction Cup time bombs to Storm Castle Davinci where they are. Now I don't believe castle. Da. Vinci was ever real place. I don't my understanding was Leonardo Da Vinci was always in the employ of different kinds of feudal lords and barons because he needed money because he was not part of the landed gentry guys prove me wrong Dan I. Know you're a Davinci scholar. Tell me what I'm wrong about that. No I don't I don't know that but. There was a question that came up. When we were watching the movie in Shays, McCoy and it was was there a war going on at the time as like Ali would know this because they're like when they're saying we need bronze for the war I mean. DAVINCI was constantly building. Or designing military weapons I guess and like there was warfare going on, but it wasn't like it wasn't like A. Skirmishes, between different. Kind of like worrying. either city states or or feudal vassals. It wasn't like Italy is at war with Germany because Italy as a nation did not exist at the time not until. The late nineteenth century. Oh. Yeah. I mean it's possible. I mean it's I mean I it's true that they did not feel that horse I don't know if that's the reason why I don't remember. But that the this force are whatever it's called that horse he designed, which was supposed to be the largest equine statue in the world it was not built until modern times select that part of it is released in real life. The model for the horse was destroyed they still had his blueprints, but with the model is not real. Gold making machine. Exactly yes. That's that's the truth that I wanted to I wanted to the volume of the most important thing about this movie Hudson Hawks accuracy to renaissance history as people will know when we finally release that battling episode, You love to no back story. Tell me more. Movie is that the big inclusion takes place at a fucking castle as soon as that happens. Davey if you're like, Charlie. Bands produce. US. Come on It's like just like if looks could kill or I don't know. Other movies that I've castles and I'm like. Think that's it. That's the too. So they storm the castle while singing side by side because again, the song the timing doesn't matter. It's not like that they have an intricate plan for this other than split up and blow things up as you walk along. But they're having a ball of the May flowers, kill they. So Kit Kat, the David crucial character. I guess the joke was supposed to be that he's like a master of disguise because he's painted to look like a Roman statue with a spear or no reason like I. Don't know who he's ruling because everyone knows he's there and they say guard that guard the the the non spy, and he puts a spirit and they're like actually and they kill him and I was like, what was the what was the point of that whole reuss like why even bother that that first step just go ahead because the mayflower just killing the giants Meanwhile. They're the good guys thrown bombs everywhere. An. Edi. So this is when Eddie ends up in a fight with James Coburn who it turns out he still knows Kung Fu from his days as an our man flint in like flint secret agent and you have this is the Stewart described. What happens here this is I think the cartoonist part of the. So they're doing a fight on the top of the on the roof of the castle and James Coburn is doing a pretty complicated Combo with You know he's got his he's got his Combo. Links down he understands the frame data and he manages told the Hudson Hawk in the stunned lock animation up against the wall basically just keeps bending backwards bending over and over. After he stops his combo he drops his combo like what will lose her what he drives Combo wasn't he practices BNB's but. He's still liking that animation of course doing that makes him bend over to pick up his hat which has fallen on the ground. At this point we know Hudson. Hawk loves his fucking cool hat. So he bends over to grab that hat. James Coburn goes for a jump and you're like you're GONNA do a jump kick right now just pointing the Mac you're leaving yourself. Open to counterattack like what are they? Sure. You can see where does one of those those guile kicks so he jumps off the over over the Barbican like what's the What's that thing called? He jumps off the ramparts jumps over the ramparts with his with his kick, and then of course, lands on a car but he's fine. He's fine. It's Oh. Thank you, sir. Laymen's terms that we could all understand. That was incredibly helpful. James covers all these spinning high kicks and then get dizzy and I was like that's kind of a funny joke would get dizzy doing that. He lands on top of a car aware Dina yellow is fighting Richard E grant. The car is being driven by the Butler. And they. I don't remember why for some reason the runaway limo explodes. And and and anyway you're like. Movie is. Good the movie is over they defeated the bad guys or contraire my friends that was the end of act too. because. The may flowers they capture Eddie and Anna I'd I don't know how they survived it doesn't make any sense. Eddie assembles the gold machine crystals for them. Don't know how he knows how to do that. It's something that I guess you were supposed to have to read the Davinci Codex to do that. But Eddie system master thief who knows the lengths of all the songs. So of course, he can reconstruct the work of a renaissance master. The bad guys gloat Sandra Bernhardt. They both get great speech at Great Little Mini speeches here that I love where Richard e grant is like civilization art human achievement those are trophies on my desk and and. San has like everyone thinks they're the center of the world. There's a traffic problem and you're like, why does this happen to me it but for us, that's not a fantasy for us. It is our reality and the flag. I love there just like marvel villains just. Stating their philosophies outright. But it turns out a Roman was any playing fair when he gave them the pieces of the gold machine absolutely not because even though we have no idea how he can put this crystal together, he even knows how to put the crystal together wrong and half. Be Given to them to blow up the machine. Yeah, I mean it's more likely that he just did it wrong. I guess. But the movie makes it seem like he did it on purpose but I wonder if you if They're like, Hey, you messed up the machine on purpose and he's like, yeah, that's me old Eddie Hawkins. The machine explodes Mayflower Minerva die in the chaos. Mayflower is is electrocuted Minerva. I guess she's killed when Molten Gold Molten lead splatters all over. It's not super clear. It's the kind of thing we're in a movie like I could see her coming back. A half lead half flesh creature, but it doesn't happen. Like. Lady stone heart kind of person. See it made of stone that's why it's called. Like. So in the game of thrones books I forget which one was I think it might be as. Much. It turns her body into stone yet in volume six pummelling of Pasta. She falls into a small and she's kind of half fossilized like half petrified and then claws her way out. Yeah. I I would I would describe. Stuart's Grin as tight. Now it makes fun of. Yeah Yeah. So The first one of those game of thrones. A chat with checkers. Checkers. Dance with. Dogs. Llama Lama Ninety nine and I think what other what other unfortunate events happened in the series Stewart. Classy. Conundrum. Anger, laughing now. I've never seen that before that at some point at some point, a pigeon wants to drive a bus. Anyway that's the series so. They. Anna. Tries to she. She's firing guns to try to save Eddie from the Butler, but she just manages to shoot Eddie arm and also shoot his belt buckle which of course, saves his life has mentioned earlier Eddie somehow uses the blades coming out of Alfred's wrists to Alfred Zone head in a very story of ricky type of moment. He won't be going to the hat convention in July. And now I love that I love I. Why? It's based on nothing. Character we're. Once and Specificity Hudson, Hawk was. Specificity of July makes me think that this is a real event, Hudson? Hawk. And everybody else knows about and so they'd be like, yeah, we get at the hat convention I. Wish there was a Is there a happy mentioned? It's such. It's such a weird weirdly specific off-base grip yeah. Anyway, there's only one. They also kill maneuvers dog for no reason. With. A crossbow bolts or something I don't remember. Of all. Out The window. Right. That's right. He he shoots him with a with a tennis ball cannon out a window. With all the sympathy of being a noted animal. Care about all living things I did say there was no reason to do it. You know but. I do not advocate violence against any. Form of animal or human but the dog was attacking them. Let's not say there was no reason there was they had a motivation now they should not have killed the dog. Let me be clear about that. Yeah. Yeah it's not like Hudson Hawk on the way out was like, fuck. Said let me did that and then just kicked the. Okay. So there's only one way to escape this castle. Hey, guys was their special Davinci device that we saw in the opening of the movie that we have not seen nor heard about since then. I think there was and what was it wasn't think back think back back. Really Glare it was glaring in the first scene because there is no reason for it to there. That was one of those gliders, those gliders. Gliders. One of those battling lighters they managed to fly it off and it's almost okay. So in Howard the duck, there's a very long sequence and Tim Robbins are riding around in a little what gyro plane it takes forever imagine the exact opposite of that is enact Alan Bruce Willis Guinness Glider, there's one moment or two of them being worried, and then they're like we did it and they land and it was like it was funny or exciting. It's like and it looks terrible. So I imagine that in the end they were like this looks awful like let's not have a lot of this and also the movie should've been over ten minutes ago when they killed the bad guys the first time but. Anyway they land and picturesque Italian village and Kiss. Hey guess who happens to be there by the logic of the movie. It's Tommy he's there and he's alive and they joke about how ridiculous it all is and guess what Eddie finally gets. That cappuccino and he's wanted so long and the voiceover at the beginning of the movie which was not anywhere else in the because backhoes and any finally got his coffee and they closed the big home and it's the end of the movie like I do want to say. I mean you mentioned it in passing, but I really did enjoy the jokes surrounding Danny aloes reappearance because he's like, Oh, you have exploded in that car and he's like airbags. Yeah. But the fire is like there was a sprinkler, the card you believe it and they're all just like they're literally all like yeah sure. Why not? They. Are So openly not even caring about the fact that was just car explosion. I think that the rest of the movie would have done better with that tone of knowing that you're in a movie. Like it but there again, it's a sort of sticks out as being so odd you like. With like the it's a movie. It's kind of like a a like an Austin powers in a way Ritz like we're going to do a throwback it's going to be really goofy. The characters are going to stretch the reality of the movie to such an extent that by the end of it nobody believes in that reality but they're still having a good time but they couldn't they just couldn't stick the landing or the take off for the flight in between and the in flight meal wasn't very good and also they ran out of soda like halfway through the flight. And also when they brought you a bag of peanuts, there was a hole in the bag and spider head crawled into them and you open it up and the guy next was like. Spider. I hardly know her and you're like, that doesn't make sense. That's. I think that's a perfect lead him to final judgments about whether. This was a good bad movie, a bad bad movie or movie you kind of like. guys like I. said I tried. To Watch us a couple times before when I was younger and just sort of like lost interest. And now, I don't know why because there's constantly stuff going on. I think that there's multiple factors at play like I said I didn't have any I. didn't bring any preconceived notions this time to it unlike Roman. I don't find Bruce Willis's smugness more inseparable. As I grow older I find that I. Have a ironic appreciation for it as part of the persona of WHO Bruce Willis is. Now young wears when I you'll get. Guys. I'd never seen this movie like Istar lived in my mind as a as a movie with a bad reputation and unlike star which I do not like it. All I. by the end of it you know at Hudson Hawk ear movie I kinda like you're not good but I have to like the things that made this totally unsuitable for the audiences ninety-one are the exact things that are refreshing to me. About it now, where it's like whatever you can say about this movie, it was not made by a studio committee trying to be as safe as possible like this is a bonkers movie and knowing that it is the close much like nothing. But trouble is the clearest mirror of the warped psyche of Dan ackroyd knowing that this is kind of the movie that plays in Bruce Willis his head when he thinks about making. That kind of adds a little bit of extra meaning to it for me. It was I'm fairly maligned at the time and I feel like now there are a bunch of people who claim this is misunderstood masterpiece, which is just train hipster nonsense. It does exist in the middle I think that like People. There's a weird lack of nuance people's opinions nowadays perhaps because the Internet where they can't justify liking something if it's not actually awesome like is like, no, no no, you're right. You're wrong. This movie is amazing. I wouldn't say this movies. Amazing. But this movie is a lot more fun than I thought it would be and I kind of liked it. Yeah. I would say I don't know I feel like this is probably the closest. I feel like this is a solid good bad movie. There's parts of it that I like. There's parts of it that are not not so good. You and Italian accent there. I'm trying to be better about that. You know. It's appropriate. You know as a character communicator. I definitely have. I I have a lot of affection for this movie. If this movie was a person, I would hand it my Nintendo switch and say, would you play Nintendo with me? Yeah that's fair. That's fair. I. Think I'm right where you guys are I think thirty years ago it was a movie I, kind of liked. I. Think now I think more is a good bad movie because my tolerance for Bruce Willis as smug face has dropped a lot since then but it's also like it is going for it and you gotta admire that it was it was during that phase of where action movie writers directors kind like Last action hero and were they were bored with action movies but like the audience was not bored with action movies yesterday. They were. Commentaries on action movies but but the audience was like I like action movies I want. To, go back to was. Like. Wait. Can I Just be a cat burglar. Easy world like A. Sort of has interesting time capsule in that in that sense but I think it's it's pretty enjoyable I watched it twice in preparation for this. About how like? I'm not going to be seeing it again for another thirty years, but it is it is in that is really right down the middle to me a good bad movie. And a movie I kind of like. 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Same I love you daddy and I'm like, do you love me because in the Nice shake a tip jar? And then he's got to put some. He's got to put some bills in there and I'm like, Oh you love me or like he'll put some coins. I'm like saying he doesn't love me as much as he did yesterday. Just, doing a flex, you're like, fuck you to Blake. Attention. And next next week for the pledge drive will do reverse psychology won't be like, Hey, it's led drive limited. Want you to pledge don't don't worry. Don't even do don't become a member and they'll be like, fucking I'll do whatever I want and they'll become members right Okay I. Don't like this new psychological warfare. Women. So. Dan. What do we do next? The next thing we do on the show is still a couple of letters from listeners, listeners like you if you want. To write us a letter, go to the website and figure it out I. Don't like saying it on the air because we get so many letters. It's Okay Dan. If I can for a moment, do a postmortem on that. I feel like. For, someone who who is ready to open the door on a kinder gentler era of the Flop House episode. It seemed like really, slam the door show. Tastes, listeners. By saying. Hey. This is how. Too Much. I Love I. Love that. You guys care. So many touching letters over the year. Is. Not. Good. Okay. So let me just say. Hey. We're sorry from the farmhouse. We're sorry for Dan from the FAA pounds. I'm sure that Stewart and I have said things today that may have caused a bid of dismay for listeners of the flop house but even more than that, I'd just like to take this moment to chat and say we're sorry for. Dan. From the Flop House love when you write. To us, it really makes us smile. We run for miles and miles and miles for a letter from you and I don't I know Dan makes it sound like torture that you reach out to us an empty your hearts with affection and love for the Flop House. But dams just uncomfortable with feelings and emotions. It's the way he was raised in. Eureka Illinois. You know what I apologize to everyone I feel like between this and Topeka I've taken a hard left turn into meanness over the last few episodes I I'm sorry. Did you get that feedback from the overfull letters bag that you have that rushing. Can tolerate. Okay well, my classmate. Years ago when star released that video message where he was like fans, I, love you peace and love your the best. Do not write me anymore letters I will not write back peace and love do not write me letters. Well here I mean he set himself. An unreasonable. thing when he said that he would write, he wrote back to everything years foolish and saying. Okay, mic last name withheld rights. Peaches Stewart has noted earlier. A movie is a horror movie. If a character dies makes me think waking Ned Devine is the best horror movie of all time. On that note, what is your favorite genre defying or cross genre movie? I'll I'll say there's a one of my favorite movies that actually WanNa Watch again soon, but I have to buy copy because I lent my dvd to somebody and they lost it is a movie called the fall directed by Tarsem saying that stars Lee pace and it's kind of hard to describe it's like kind of a fantasy but it's not. Fantasy moving. It's kind of adventure, but it's not quite an adventure movie and it's kind of a drama but it's it's a strange movie and it's this movie where that set in the silent era of Hollywood and this stuntman is in a hospital because he broke his leg in a stunt trying to impress his ex girlfriend and he befriends this little girl and starts telling her this fantasy story and we're seeing her imagining of what he's telling her and it the story is so building off of the way they feel at any given moment and it's a movie that is very hard to classify but I really love it and it's one that. Means a lot to me. So I would say the fall, which is not my recommendation for this week but I do recommend it anyway back to you guys. I think I'm that one my favorite movie of all time if I had to had to pick one is probably jaws and I think because I think it's probably one of the best horror movies the best buddy cop movie, the best adventure movie, the best disaster movie it's a good family drama I like ones I like movies that actually mix it up a lot in terms of genres. So. Obviously, I'd Audition the Takeshi we AKA movie is the first half is like a weird Romance like Romance Drama and then the second half is. I, don't want to talk about it too much. Or I mean I've talked about this a lot on the show but. The guest I think is great because you don't Kinda know what it is for a lot of movie like. It's it's so funny weird and then also against action and scary, it's great. I just going to sort of more broad a statement about I think a lot of these sort of Korean new wave of films fall into this where like. It seems like. They can make. Movies they're like thrillers or horror films or or or just know kind of I don't know like. Science fiction. He things that don't feel the need to adhere to one tone like I think. There's a lot of problem that American audiences often have if like tone varies wildly but. I don't know. Maybe it's just because what you said earlier that we're willing to accept different things from different cultures I. don't know but like. They don't seem to reject in South Korean films. How often you know they'll throw a stew of flake me horrifying. Horrifying events horrifying violence, but then they'll have very broad comedy or they'll have characters you know reacting to things in ways that are both emotionally honest and melodramatic simultaneously and I find that so much more fascinating than something that feels beholden to one tone the whole hallway I'm always curious about whether those movies are successful in their home countries. There's other that reminded me of movie I should've used as another instruments, which is save the Green Planet, which is at South Korean movie that's like a thriller and also a comedy, and also like a plea for for ecological conservation and it's such a strange movie and I know that that was not a success in South Korea and I wonder if movies that are that come over here and get a cult followings here, and we start to think that that's kind of like what they do over there whether those movies are actually mainstream movies. Sometimes, they are certainly certainly like Park Chan Wook and Ho- like the biggest names like they are hugely successful. But I have to look up like a movie like the good the bad and the weird like how well that did or not? Because it's because that's another crazy movie. SO I. It's President Eisenhower. How. Do we feel about guys? Some people like him. I feel like that to put it on a like and don't like. Polar access is a little bit hard when you're talking about a president who had a mixed bag in some ways on the one hand. He sent he sent. Troops to con to integrate southern schools on the other hand. He did it reluctantly and he was not happy that the Supreme Court forced his hand do judge a man by his motives were by his actions. You know what? That's beyond my pay grade. I'll just say this as far as presidents who looked like big babies he was one of the best. Well. Eisenhower writes this week I finally watched a movie that has scared me my entire life since I watched it for the first time as a kid I'm speaking of course of nine, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine, the muppet movie. In, young my defense. It's still terrifying. However, I was able to sleep afterwards. So big improvement I'm writing to ask whether any of you have movies that you watch kids that you couldn't or still can't watch because they scared you so badly bonus points if it's not a traditionally scary movie although I stand that I stand behind that animal is one of the most horrifying creatures to ever grace the screen. So Sammy would argue with that. Thank you for your time your podcast, I class name with Hassani would argue with that Mr. President although I do know you would get scared when the giant animal comes out of the end when he eats all those grow pills although for me scary than that movie is the one with Mel Brooks where they stuffing kermit into that device and it's like not funny. It's just like really distressing and Mel Brooks is doing that we are German accent, but he's like just looks like regular Mel Brooks like that whole that whole scene. I every time I watch it I, skip that scene. I'm like don't need it. This is distressing for me. Well. Actually. I mean like I had actually forgotten that The muppet thing was in there when I was formulating my answer to this. Question because the three things that I came up with are not actually movies but their TV things I remember scaring me that weren't supposed to be scary as a kid one of them was at the beginning of the muppet show when they're like. Boom Boom Boom, and the biggest monsters start walking out of their doors toward the camera that freaked me out I'd be freaked out. I mean obviously primed to be freaked out because I just watched twin peaks but I'd be extra freaked out by the Mark Frost like production logo at the end that was all like sizzling electricity France sudden loud noise afterwards for a moment I thought you were prime to be freaked out by the muppet show because you just walked twin peaks. Understood for a moment. Lasley and I. The thing that would terrified me the most when I was a kid was the emergency broadcast system tests because my brother at some point, it was like, oh This is. The Guy, the government put in place in case like there's a nuclear war or something like that I'm like what and so every time even though we'd say it's only a test it would freak me out I think it's partly just like the fact that anything. Anything could interrupt television one of the most important pillars of my childhood. Audacity to break into the signal. When I was a kid, I would like or like a teenager. You know if I stayed up till four in the morning or something watching TV, and there was always the moment when I would go to the local PBS channels to watch the end of day where they would play with must have been something they made in the early eighty s or late seventies where it's of Americana as as there's like a mini version of the star spangled banner that plays and I've just and it's like super like seventies early eighties video where there's a lot of blur like and burn in when it moves from image to image, and then it would just end. The song and immediately cut to color bars, and that'd be it for about two hours and I was just frightened me so much I similar reason it was like, okay there's there's nobody at the wheel right now like channel doesn't exist like anything can happen right now and we're in a no-man's and also meant like well, I've stayed up. So late that I am no longer tired and we'll get no sleep tonight, which is the other scary thing. So I think if I watched it on my own now, I'd get that feeling of like the fright of well, what am I going to do for the rest of the night till the sun comes up What do you guys think? I would say my my my serious one is an this is a sacred in this house but. is gremlins. I. Saw Gremlins in the theater I thought it was the scariest movie I've ever seen I got none of the humor I just got the grimness of it and the and the grossness of it and I've never seen it again, it lives in my mind as the scariest movie that exists. It's let legitimately scary movie like I always have to remind myself like Oh. Yeah. Like the GREMLINS. Kill people and you see the gremlins killed onscreen like it's really gross but but. Really. There's that part of the GREMLINS are hanging out at the bar and they're just having a blast mutant madness. Scrape never found the humor in the like I was too young to sort of get the humor of it and the Madcap of it and I just remember. Her Dad dying in the chimney. Trying to be Santa Claus and the grossness of the different gremlins that when they when they are turned nasty and stuff and I've I've never seen wants to I've never seen any of the other ones like my kids are thirteen now and We've talked about different they they used to really be pushing horror movies and. More and more extreme they really wanted to try them out and I draw the line at grim. Can Dad can we watch GRANDMA'S NO WE'RE WATCHING, anthropologists? Watching. That Dad dying sooner phoebe cates dead dying monologue seen disturbed me so much as a kid was like such an interesting process growing up and seeing gremlins over and over again and like. Like. Getting that, the joke of the scene is that there is no joke to it that they're like in the middle of it just telling this very grim sad story. I mean, there is a little bit of a joke in the idea that they're her dad thought. This would be great idea. Yeah like it's a terrible idea. It's this horrible like like urban legend horror tale almost and. Just, the fact that it's Played. Basically straight for this miserable thing in the middle of a horror comedy is. Funny in and of itself was pretty weird kid I remember being really scared when I saw a clip of the movie the Shining. Out there you're out there. Obviously Large March large marge. Yasser. Large. Was The scariest thing large margin that taxicab ghost in ghostbusters where the two things that consistently cover my eyes for? There's an episode of I. Think it was the Hogan family that. Like it's Halloween episode and it opens with the characters Islamise. Those pretty scary. I remember also now think about it being genuinely scared by the crypt keeper even now I look at them as look silly. Because when you're a kid, I know when I was a kid I thought he was a real guy like I didn't necessarily a real Zombie thought he was like I thought he was a real person who's who they put makeup on his face and I couldn't white figure out whether he was a puppet or not in that really strange me the valley. Yeah. Of course now I love him now he's a great guy and breath now we're now we're best buds mean Christie. But Yeah kids are scared of stuff large marches the scariest thing your kid though and as an adult I watched it and I was like this is this could be on playhouse like it's But. I would note was happy I like that's one of those things where as a kid you watch it again and you're like I know this is going to happen I know it's going to be scary and the anticipation is so frightening. You work yourself up you start to vomit. It's horrible. And your mom is like you're not watching this movie I will not allow it. This happens every time and you're like, but mom, but Mommy's gotta get his bike back. I got I. got to see that one moment where Gigerich shows. Okay. So let's Move on into the final. Segment of the show, which is recommendations and we'll do it because we've wasted so much of podcasting legend Roman. Says Ronin. You're like you're like no problem in out I'm sure they tape this show in a professional way not all in a run for two hours. Should've worn want to recommend relic, which is new to video-on-demand as so many things are these days starring Emily Mortimer you mean relics Twenty twenty. Film. screamers. Now it's. It's A. New Zealand Canada, Co production with a English lead actor and It is about You know a a grandmother while the main character's mother, the Secondary the daughters grandmother you know three generations. Let's just say that the grandmother is This is the teary aiding. She is deteriorating in health They go out to her house to take care of her to look for like she's disappeared at the beginning of the movie and it is a movie that is a horror film based on sort of the metaphor of the horror of seeing your parents deteriorate in that way and. I think at first when I was watching it I'm like Oh. This is another one of these elevated horror movies that over relies maybe on a lack of incident and building dread and also suffers from being a little close to ready Terry in that it's. Sort of generational horror. But then as it went on, I realized that it was like its own great thing. The Third Act does some really scary stuff with the sort of geography of the House that's fun, and then toward the end of the movie, it just sort of pushes the metaphor so far that like the movie kind of becomes. Poetic and your emotions shift in a way that I've never seen a horror movie pull off. So it's it's very interesting relic. I'll go next real quick. I'm GonNa recommend a movie that I had mentioned on a previous many as one that I was kind of going back and forth on recommending, and that's nineteen seventy-two Western, called Buck and the preacher starring Sidney Poitier and Harry Belafonte in the first movie that city party directed and taking over the direction after being dissatisfied with the work of Joseph Sargent, director of my favorite movie, the taking two three and, of course, jaws the revenge but anyway, and it's a western where there's a a number of. Former slaves or former enslaved people are moving west to try to escape from becoming a enforced kind of tenant farmers and these militias from the south are trying to forcibly. Push them back trying to scare and bully them into coming back and working tenant farmers and they hire Sidney Party. Ca Party is character as a guide to help them through the West. To get to wear they'll be safe and Harry Belafonte is kind of like a con man preacher who? Teams up with them and decides to help them at a certain point and it was really interesting to see a western movie that kind of treated. White people, black people and also native Americans, and it commits the crime of having native Americans played by non native actors. But they do good job of bringing dignity those roles, portraying them as kind of like all different groups that are at odds with each other but are not. In homogeneous blocks and are also not they here's the thing you see a lot in certain types of westerns where the hero runs into a bunch of native Americans and they're buddies and it's like well, you know this guy is a good guy because the native characters all love. That happens basically, and in this this one, there's this relationship between Cindy characters and the natives were. It's like they know each other they're aware of each other but they're still in this kind of tentative tension because these are groups of people who are starting to more and exist in the same space. They have more complicated relationships than movie would usually portray and they all want different things from this world that they're in but anyway, it's A. couple. Of really good action scenes in it and it doesn't quite all the way come together although Harry Belafonte is very funny in it and a lot of times and the soundtrack which is by. The jazz musician. Benny Carter is fantastic and uses like a Jew's harp in the best way that I've heard it outside of a Marconi score and so it's a it's a kind of interesting western that isn't totally on point in terms of pulling together at the end but I think is worth watching it's called Buck and the preacher. WHO's up next? I can go. I am going to recommend. A movie that has gotten quite a quite a bit of good press. But I wanNA talk about it. Anyway. It's called portrait of a lady on fire. It is a is playing at. My House say long lately. Movies. Yeah So it's a French movie and it is a period piece of a doomed romance filled with subtle longing and it's I I remember when I first went into it I was expecting to be fairly dry, but it really isn't. It may still balance that the tone of that kind of doomed romance with. Like, a feeling of. Like teenagers left alone in house while the parents are out of town like a don't tell mom the babysitter's dead vibe. And I think it's really fun. There's a lot of really great little incidents. The characters are fun and it has. Probably it has like it has such a great sad ending. It's awesome. It's great a bunch of times. I think it was on Hulu just like. Just, like don't tell mom the baby dead has great. Yeah. Exactly and like don't. You get like the proof of title in the movie. With, anything you get you see that portrait. Yeah. Mom they never the mom never finds out that the babysitter died right I mean the babysitter dies in the first five minutes of that movie. They don't fuck around and don't tell them on the babysitters data or What? They don't tell them. They never tell them on, right? Yeah. Well, just like I feel like maybe she discovers right at the very end of the. Decomposing hand and she's like. When she's when she's digging, which is being ahold of buried, the treasure that off in the other movie that's happening in the fringes don't. She was over in goonies. So I was trying to think of an another like a light crime comedy that's more successful than Hudson Hawk and this is actually one of my favorite movies. It's called quick change. It's adding genuinely funny You Know Heist movie with Bill Murray that he actually co-directed in. It's I think it's really underrated. I think it's one Bill Murray's best movies and. I know. Jesse Tournament over this movie in particular because I wouldn't be surprised. The other benefit of this. Thorn my nemesis. and. Just how great quick changes because I it's like I watched it with my son, one of my sons. Few weeks ago and he totally got it. He was into it. On videocassette and I watched it many many times growing up. But for some reason, I can't remember specific incidents just like the feeling like I'm like at the end where they're like walking down that street, it's like they're like last chance to get away I. Don't know. It's great. Ya. I'm GONNA say a last word about the fund drive in a moment but I just want to say. So at the end of don't tell mom the babysitter's dead and this is this is worth the. Clavier. The mom, ass where the babysitter is and as the credits roll the scene cuts away to the cemetery where to morticians look over a gravestone that reads nice. Old Lady inside died of natural causes and that's a that's a pretty good job tweet. Gravestone says that. The gravestone. Kids by a tombstone or Kids also. Oh Boy Oh. So wikipedia says that there's two morticians at the gravestone. I doubt that that's actually WHO's. conference. Maybe even the morticians like to stop by the cemetery to make sure they're taking good care of their work. You know let's make sure this was buried the right way we put a lot of work in tissues into stuffing. Chemicals just want to make sure that this and they leave Iraq on the stone. You know just people not they're there. Yeah. Okay, guys well. It's been a long day so. Let's. Get to the end. Here's the lesson that we learned is I. Need to edit my notes ahead of time. Yeah I do want to say one more word in support of the Max Fund. Drive. You can go to maximum fund dot org slash join. 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We just thank you for listening as well. Spread the word about the show spread the word about the drive. Thank you again so much for those who have given or plan to give to keep the show going and just thanks. That's the main message we wanted to say here at the end and thank you to Roman Mars for coming and being a guest on this bumpy ride much like the movie Hudson? Hawk. Roman is there anything you would like to tell us about or plug before you go? Oh. Sure. So I, do a show code ninety, nine, percent invisible. It's about architecture and design but really it's kind of about everything in the world and how it sort of speaks to us as what we would. It's important to us as humans and actually now our first book coming out on October six October sixth it's co authored by Kirk who works on the staff as digital director and it's called the ninety nine percent invisible city and We, hope. And and enjoy. I love that stuff. Okay. Well, by that book, you know what? I'm going to buy that book. So listeners if you WanNa, be like me and own at least one book that I. Should also by it to? And and. If you WANNA be like me and I've been regular donor to maximum fun for over a decade I think you should go to maximum fun. Dot Org slash join because I think that putting your. Future and in the hands of the listeners of Max von is a great choice. I think it's very important choice Dan I think I'm proud of you for doing it because I think that these people. Catch you. I think they will hold you and take care of you. And let you be who you and let you make all I'm ever wanted. All I've ever wanted to do. That's what they. That's what they WANNA do right now and they're gonNA come. They're gonNA join me in this effort by going to maximum fun. Dot Org. Care of them in a really. Who? WHO So much. Like a super villain like he wanted to. Just like knows your psychological profile is. You know use it against you. That's amazing. But I think it's a it's a beautiful assistant and a great choice has nothing to be embarrassed. About is nothing to apologize for. This is really really like the greatest thing that we want is for us all to take care of each other in the way that we can, and this is what is so beautiful about pledge drives because they are about us giving what we can, whatever we can create something greater. So go to maximum fund dot Org Slash John to join me doing me because not just them like what I need is not just I need none of them supported you're part of the team. I'm part of because I'm one of these people who give money to them. So it only works if we all joining together by going to maximum fun. Master over here, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like where where we all we were all auditioning dancers in a show and then rumors like, okay. Well, let me show you how that steps supposed to media, and then just like pulled it also beautifully while reading a newspaper, he's like. Impossible Yeah thank you so much for coming on the show and doing our job but now we need to say goodbye. So I get this hot room and Roman can do important things and I. Don't know you guys can go do whatever the ship is you Go do that Oh okay try try and save my family like the titular. And Which one of the youth. L. Wow wow. In. So hypnotized by Rome and he doesn't know what's going on anymore Well, Dan before we go I, just like to thank everybody for listening. And, say, Hey, if you have a chance to tweet or instagram whatever about us go ahead and do so and I also want to give special thanks to our editor Jordan Carling who has work cut out for her with this very long episode. Everyone. your job is just to say four when the time arrives. One two. Three. Four. Five. Six Four. What why Y you? Want me to do to God Damrau never do them immediately derail never do. I said I would do it long. Didn't. Believe. Maximum Fund Dot Org Comedy and culture artist owned audience supported.

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