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Horrorvision #1 South Park S13E8: Dead Celebrities with Brucker from Film on the Rocks

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Horrorvision #1 South Park S13E8: Dead Celebrities with Brucker from Film on the Rocks

"What the? Parents. New Favorite TV station Tom this time tomorrow that will be told. To taste John's. Watching so much trash this time the trash is gonna sit them in. My parents. Then bachelor degrees. Turn L. Everybody walking the horse soup and welcome to a new horror television series So pretty much recently start a new tier on patriotic allows you to force me to watch whatever the hell you want pretty much what whore TV and I'm going to explain some saying because this episodes a little different from that but you can forced me to discuss an. Episode of Hor Television, basically, these episodes aren't going to be weekly nor will I be picking them? They were released an order of donator picks from Patriot, dot com slash for soup as I received them and their release on Fridays. So the segment is one hundred percent run by you the fans and without further ado go ahead and introduce yourself because I've A. Guest here. Thanks so much for having me My name is Brooker and I host a movie podcast, call them on the rocks. We do a different movie each week in we come up with drinking roles, Dula. But at Trivia talked about our favorite scenes, get into deeper messages and we always debate whether or not the movies deserve a sequel. So have fun. With them and drinking rules is kind of like the main segment of the show in such a lot of fun to come up with drinking roles for movies. But I'm really excited to be here and talk about this this episode with you. Yeah. Thanks so much for coming man at pretty much what you guys as the fans should get from that is that. He does a lot more for show than I do. 'cause I just I just shit on the stuff. Yeah, we are a movie positive kind of podcast is always fun to kind of Pooh, Pooh, on dumb shit occasionally so off. So yeah. Pretty much I feel like this episode needs a little bit of explanation because I'm starting off a horror TV segment and the very first episode is South Park dead celebrities that thirteen episode a release in two, thousand, nine Obvious. I'm not going to say yes to all dumb fucking requests like this. I'm just going to throw that out there right now light if it's horror enough of it's not a horror television series and its horror enough and I'm like, okay I'll agree to that then I'll do it but I'm not going to say, yes to all the dumb guy, know someone's GonNa try to send me fucking something fucking stupid outlandish and I might say yes to South Park episodes depending on what they are but this guys don't don't get to fruity with. This one, this one walks the fine line. So I feel like this one is it could have gone either way but I feel like I don't know your podcast but I feel like it might be enough to be kind of. Spooky and that's what I want. It reiterate my fucking podcasts. So if I say no. But this one. That's fine. I'll say, yes to most things, Trey Parker and Matt Stone just because I never actually surprisingly enough. This isn't the first time I've talked about south, park on this podcast like. In full episode for actually did at the time like I did like four Halloween episodes like one episode let make sense. So I mean like isn't the first time I've covered this but you know I'm pretty excited to get into this. You Wanna go ahead and get into the broker. Yeah, absolutely. So in this episode, cows little brother is haunted by dead celebrity until Michael Jackson who. Doesn't want admit he's in limbo decides to live out his fantasy of being a little white girl. So this episode starts out Kyle's dad plowing cows mom, and then I'd comes in he's like I saw ghosts in my room, and then you know Mr Broth loss is just like dude, fuck off get out go away. There's no ghosts you'll be fine, and then it turns into fucking Poltergeist Yep. Immediately just like I can't fucking escape this movie I cannot get away from poultry guys always fucking trees attack and windows and show covered poltergeist last week, and the really irritating part is that Dude Koch he was on the Patriot and pick a movie tier and he told me a new poltergeist and any now it's the movie tier and he told Media Poltergeist episode of fucking South Park Ges the one two punch. Yeah, it's really just a big fuck. He's treating it like it's a wine and cheese combination maybe. No. He's treating this like it's a fucking game like my life like I. Don't have to deal with this. And relive it over and over again. Wake up thinking Oh God do I have to watch something else that has to do with fucking poltergeist? Doing Gail dance for me talk about poltergeists. So. Much but you know there's still pretty grand billy mays ghost appears in the room advertising mega scrubber mold mildew even those impossible Weinstein's gone in a flash to billy to billy mays goes was perfect I. Kinda really loved that not not. GonNa lie. And this was not not long after we lost the great the late in gray billy mays. Yeah and we got to see a little more of him beside all the reruns of commercials that they showed, which they actually joke at a little bit in this episode. Definitely I had it took a lottery of restraint not just introduce myself as Brooker here from film on the rocks the talk about. Whatever respected you a lot more if you did the. Do it occasionally. Maybe I don't know but yeah, that was. A that was if you were to make this episode, a drinking game that would definitely be wind whenever the whole Billy mays here comes up or the the product that Cartman just loves it was a poll two-way. I, think we'll get to that in a little bit but yeah. Yeah. So the the Pronounce it right. To pull away or to to pull away I feel like I'm Butler way to pull away FUSCO. Fuck it. I'm not buying product now but. You don't pronounce the E. Pulled away to T- way to. Chipoko, stupid yeah. So, billy mays the fair faucet shows up, and then billy mays trust men some stuff in disappears as I, crisis brothers, arms, and then you know, of course this the sends I to therapists and he's like a C- dead celebrity surrogate a little six senses limit. Not, enjoying a don't like that movie either and then the therapist is like a you see any dead celebrities at the moment. And he has one of my favorite lines like just. Make Man. It is so inconsequential to he just walks. I was like, okay he just walks away. It's all that happens with Ed McMahon but you know it's fine. Fine. So cal heads over his bud's house and he's like, Hey, you know my my brother he keeps seeing dead celebrities at an cows like, oh. Yeah. You know billy mays in others and then carpets like Holy Shit Dude. You just say billy mays. And then for some reason like I, don't get this at all because they all watch a Lotta TV. But for some reason, standards know who billy mazars yeah. I. Wonder. If that was like a like a generation thing I, don't know that was kind of like 'cause like their kids. I don't know of something like at. As cartman new cartman new let's because he was He was part of the target audience for one of the products but for one of them but I mean dude there was there anyone in two thousand nine the didn't know who billy mays was like two, thousand, seven, two, thousand, eight period probably not I. Mean I think he even had a show on the Discovery Channel Two sets yet him in that other guy, Sullivan? Who've it's the other guy that sold other products just like billy mays did they had a? Like the the discovery channel had show just them to it was like a documentary series just them being the spokes salesman and Oh Shit I do remember that actually. Yeah. That was a thing I, remember like an observer like a raccoon bit one of them in a stunt or I don't know. But yeah. So that so and I also just read Wikipedia I just did not know that off hand so. Mighty mend it. Did he mighty men the raccoon by? Force the was the call it, the Flex Shield or whatever that like black sprayed stops water coming out to slap that right on there you're like sprayed into your walls and stuff was was was that the mighty men was that it was it Might not necessarily was it. Yeah. That was definitely I think that was mentioned in this episode, the mighty men but effort was pretty much a second ago because he was like an mighty men dear asshole I I don't know what he was trying to mighty man but he was trying to mighty meant something you're wack you're raccoons in. Yeah. Mighty men you're goodall raccoon rooms as billy mays product. So we get this Cipolla away segment now because. You Know Cartman, has to show Stan I think maybe Kenny you know what exactly billy mays is so he's like, okay you know they play these reruns all the time I'll find him he goes through his Tivo were shadow to Tibo and goes back he finds this and he's like okay. So Japan away this spray will get all the bloodstains out of your underwear for meeting to Bolt Ley and carbons like, yeah. Do this shit changed my life? This. Where would I be without Chippewa? Is just they really nailed like all the sticks from those from those type of commercials. I did do a whole like blood in a little cup in just like pour it over the underwear and every day it was fantastic. He's like, okay. So we need to go find billy mays goes because there's like the greatest person ever obviously and Kyle for some reason Kyle's really hung up on the fact that Cartman keeps eating food that makes them ship blood. Is that really a problem though I don't think so I think we should discuss this I. think it's also kind of just like a little like joke at these kind of infomercials because these infomercials makeup problems that people don't actually have. So people aren't actually getting their astle torn up so I don't. Know now, bring it back. You're obviously not an eater of spicy foods or things that make your asshole bleed because I will say that on multiple occasions, my asshole has blood I don't know maybe I'm like who is was it stand that the golden ask maybe I, just have a golden asshole so. So the thing is I thought I had a golden asshole for a long time like a long time and then one day just hit and use. It never comes back. You don't get that getting too old for this shit yeah. So. So why? Why why is the bloody? What side do you do you fall on in this bloody? asshole debate do you think he should assess the situation and not eat foods that cause his asshole to tear open and bleed or do you think that because he has a solution to his asshole tearing open and bleeding or at least a solution to the evidence of his asshole tearing open and bleeding? That S-. You should be I mean I. Definitely I mean, realistically. Yeah. You should just avoid the food because I mean the the spray isn't fixing your asshole. So. The food's really good. I mean I don't know man there's other things you can do but I don't know or maybe try seagate like an asshole transplant like golden asshole transplant from someone in your golden. Well. The way I see is that they're both a little bit wrong cartman. Should be carbon should be switching out Schipol for something actually good that will make your asshole bleed because I'd make my asshole bleed for some things not apply. As to be worth it, it has to be really worth it this however was not. So I'm kind of on the fence here. Yeah. If it was something like I don't know. I can't like. Really Nice steak yet it's worth it but it Relates some sort of like fast food thing like this. I don't know why is your asshole bleeding over a really nice steak I. Don't know why is it bleeding over burritos? I don't know I. I'm having a hard radio. so much more sense than the steak I probably agree with you on that but I, just haven't had this problem I have i. don't know maybe it's a I don't know. A BLONDE HAIR, blue eyed golden asshole child you ju- you perfect man. Can't believe this up on my pedestal just laughing at people bleeding from their hassles. Fuck you, fuck. Curia fucking high and mighty throne. Dick. So up next the gay show on the planet ghost hunters, what is that? What is that oh? My God, allow it. It's warm. This was my favorite part of the episode not GonNa lie this whole parity on taps. It's so fucking good like this is my favorite ghost parody in the world. It's fantastic. They showed to the Broth Foschi house is ghost hunter start pissing their pants no. Like what is Oh, like God. One of them shits himself. No, like, oh, it's warm. It's in the back of my pants now smells. It's IT'S AZTEC? I don't know if you saw. But the actual host of taps solve this and he thought it was hilarious. He actually encourage people to watch this episode because he thought the pair was so funny he wasn't offended or anything he thought was really adds say he he didn't Tom Cruise? No No, no no he did not do that. He was totally cool with that was hilarious which watched a fair amount of those. But not all of them I watched the one with the dog whisperer what's his name again oh, Vulcan. CRN Ramsey. Yeah. Yeah. So Gordon, Ramsay the the dog whisperer I watched the one with with that. I've watched like a handful just like I don't know since I was a kid they all do that same thing like what the fuck was that did you see that band and they all like? At their hair even though they're all bald what's going on line and love that you're in this in south park evens it just starts with them in their own conference room planning stuff still going what is that? So it's just like these van that was like driving on the way over there. Just like holy. Shit did you hear that? Did you hear that it's like these guys are paranoid late? They're actually the FBI's about the light catch them for something all the time. NO THE GHOST FBI don't be an idiot, Bro. Sorry. The what was that? Stupid. Ryan Reynolds Movie The. D is about to get them or something. So God, see you say right around I just watched Amityville two thousand and five last week. So Oh My condolences. I'm on some other Ryan Reynolds go stuff that makes me uncomfortable I'm on a different level. Okay. So these guys, these hunters, they all chit themselves and they run out the door for some reason stand isn't too impressed with them I don't get why but I end up at the hospital again because he can't stop seeing. Billy. mays and that we hear a debate about whether or not you should each polio away whether or not you should be considered your asshole. I'm still kind of on the fence in that but then. The midget from poltergeist shows up. This isn't like dude. I cannot fucking escape this God damn movie. In. Any sense of the Word Fuck and? Is here dude, fuck and Tangerine isn't a building. Shkin scape it. ABS So tired of this shit but you know what? She's here I have to deal with it. She explains that you know she's like Ed Billy mays ghost is in there and you know the animated Poltergeist Tangerine is doing a great job because she's going in between talking and whispering just like the do in the fucking dog ship film which I I've talked about this before on the show I just last week but God I hate the whispering poultry guy so much it makes no fucking sense. Yeah. Like. When you watch poltergeist, it's been a really long time. But yeah, like this I just can't get over I really hated winters whispering and movies period and the, and it's like there's point to it and poltergeist because they're talking like full force one scene, and then all of a sudden they're like have to whisper south ghost can't. Here's they're fucking ghost. What are you talking about? Talking about where are you getting this information? That's useful. Like told you. If you whisper a ghost can't here they probably fucking hear your thoughts. Are you kidding me? Yeah. It's this is the inter dimensional being like fuck your whispering this. It makes me so fucking angry but I'm real I love map Parker and trey stone so much for you know recognizing that and just going in between like they're standing in the hospital room and she's talking and then she's like. What happened but oh, my God and I'm like, yeah. Perfect. 'cause that's the fucking moving. Say. She's a specialist in spooky stuff I think. That's what the doctor introduces are as it's like Oh, yeah. Well, I can't really handle. We have a specialist in the spooky paranormal. And then Tangerine shows up of God yeah I just yeah it's bad engineer details good though because they actually give her the Tan Gina Name Tag. That's a good point. That's a good point I. Think I missed that that that's a good observation. You gave her the name jagged everything I'm like Oh God. So she starts her could say on starts to talk to the dead celebrities added group finds out that Michael Jackson's ghosts in limbo with the rest of them and you know he's like I'm dead. Skin condition. Ignorant. Ignorance. Dangerous is like you have to convince Michael Jackson he's dead he's in denial. In denial his. Try to convince them and I'm surprised they didn't even go farther and they cause in the poultry guys. They have this thing retain Gina's all like, yeah who's the one that the? Most scared of you have to be really aggressive to her tell her you're gonNa spanker and I almost wish they went like that far too like tell Accu GonNa spank him onto. Which you kids is act most scared of. Kyle you kick the baby. Is Like I don't I don't kick the baby. Would be great. They kept on. They kept a running joke of the buddy assholes when they did late like blood just like like a busted balloon everywhere like what the fuck man. If they did like a nightmare on ELM street like death where it's just carbons asshole just spewing with like a giant waterfall of blood and. Bad asshole. Yeah. That's great and billy mays us to clean up the situation with is like pool of Japan. They'll get. He slaps like that that like force Flex Shield wherever on it just stop that blood coming out. No I it's like it's like, when would a helicopter that like puts out fires as just drop a giant like Amazon yeah. Yeah, just drop a bunch of AAA over this pool of asshole blood. It'd be a good episode IV okay. So yeah, there's there's jeter convinced him he's he's in denial nineties leg and that dead. Ama- child. And I'm white. Think, he says, what was he like a white girl I think this what he says yeah that's the whole running job at this boy he's Just Ama- child and why but yeah, the whole time is this like emily. Yeah The lack in Malacca wailed. So Michael Jackson goes starts fucking screaming bloody murder and then Tangerine goes flying out the window and dies and good God i. wish this happened in. Poltergeist. I wish he was not around for more movies. I wish they just throughout the fucking window Dir and all that like bullshit with floating house and eating house and skeleton baths just throw her in the skeleton. Bath Yeah Yeah but. With this, we're going Darth Maul you here. Except when we? All I would love to see her get chopped in half. please. Is it the as the Bolt Agai supercup that we need the Super Gut yet just fucking quite gone comes in. Shops fucking jobs tangerine ride in half lean against. Exactly, have five with all of them. So Kyle. Just wake up after Tangerine flies out because I think that you know he's good. Now he's not possessed anymore and then they find out that actually I is Michael Jackson now own it's it's really the opposite of what you want to happen to your little brother, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's opposite. Believable. Want to have to anyone. Really. So brooker as a as a blue eyed. Blond haired white boy, would you be satisfied if Michael Jackson all of the sudden your brother. If, he was all of a sudden, my brother I mean. You know I might take the opportunity to talk about him work through his issues with him out. I'll take the I shoot at work through his issues. But this is like dead Michael Jackson A. That's true. Spiritual version. So I don't know how much changing there is there. That's true. Yeah. No. If it's like, okay. If it's literally like the the the spiritual possession yet known thank you gotTa this. This. We know we know I'm getting bibles I'm getting rosaries I'm getting like whatever can. You think of Bible now Rosary is going to save you from Michael. Jackson. I mean it's better than nothing right? So I mean it's it's me doing something. When you're in a boat that sinking, all you have is a cup, but you're still throwing water out. You're doing something that's. Yeah. It's like when your name is Tangerine and you're in a movie about ghost and you start whispering because you think that ghost gang exactly. Okay. Well, we're in this limbo plane. Now we meet all the other dead celebrities and there's a good amount of them, his like during the whole like two, thousand, nine like Holy Shit because it was literally like this episode was played on the fact that a lot of celebrities died in two, thousand, nine but also. I know I feel like if if we went year to year and looked at it, I'm sure the same fucking amount of celebrities died in two thousand nine as every other year I think it was just big ones getting old and people were like Holy Shit Nfl like they were. It did feel a little bit clustered though because I've felt like did yeah the Pelicans affiliate the Michael Jackson. The fair. Faucet were pretty close to each other if I'm not mistaken. and. I'll go ahead and put billy mays higher than either of them the ability the billy mays was rough I making just be I. Wasn't he only another look this up wasn't he only like I. WanNa say like fifty, th seven, fifty three wasn't that old yeah. I think he died of a the officials empty he was only fifty. How the sucks I, think the official one Official up top seed say like heart disease and yeah something like that. Yes. I did see that I don't know if you're a football fan or anything but I did see that had Steve. McNair boards. I'm from I'm from. Nashville. Tines Fan and I saw the has Steve McNair. He was another person who died in two, thousand, nine, hundred, I saw Steve McNair on the airplane say Oh Steve that I know that they were sticking to. Finally caught on it. They were sticking to celebrities from two thousand nine but I was kind of shocked that they didn't have Steve Irwin on the plane or something because I know he didn't die in two, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand, six, but Yeah. But they they already, they already poked at him in the in the hell episode the One when they were poking out the the sweet sixteen months with Satan. That's true. So I feel like they already poked the. St Stephen's Irwin's dad and then there was like I get. Yeah. Is Two thousand nine. We're we're on a bigger and better we're moving better data we're not rehashing Matt, what are we lazy. Where were you? When Michael Jackson died I think, do you remember the moment? Trying to I remember later that day I think officers in my just in the car with my dad and think maybe came over the radio. But and it didn't affect me super hard because like I'm a little bit younger in like I just didn't grow up listening to his music that I just knew he was extremely hot king pop in, and so I knew how much of a? ICON, he was to some people. Oh, that's a big one. He was the King of Pop then also around the time he died like in lake middle school and stuff. This was a really big thing where everyone was like Michael. Jackson pedophile like that was what everyone knew him for. They didn't know him for his music. It was like all the eleven to thirteen year olds knowing him for like Oh he's. A WEIRDO and he changed the color of skin and he fucking fucks little boys or whatever. Yeah. That was definitely the the top cool thing I was going around and then four late me me and my friends we will watch lot stand up comedy and Cat Williams head that whole bit on Michael. Jackson that's yeah. Yeah. So that was something that we all like washed in saw. So that was kind of like. Our knowledge of of Michael Jackson. Yes. On my my reveal was like I was watching the news kind of popped up and then I remember who texted me and might even been like my friend bree or something like that. But someone text me and they were like, Hey, that pedophile diagnose like talking about Michael Jackson or like yeah I was like I just saw that and that was the end of the conversation and like it didn't go I didn't have like I listened to his music like sometimes like I liked it was like cool. But I, was like I didn't like it wasn't. I was an avid Michael Jackson. Listener. I didn't know a ton about him I was just like. Oh. Yeah. Everyone talks about him for fucking kids. So I think he's bad I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Doesn't sound good but I didn't know anything about him but I guess back to the episode when we get the the golden butthole revelation because Kyle's he's still stuck on the underwear thing he can't fucking get over it keeps bringing it up like Hannibal Boras talking about his his mask game show on the last Joe. rogan episode add Kyle is just going on about this and he's like, yeah well, you know Cartman if you alarmed when you first his blood in your underwear like were you alarmed that what was happening carbons like yeah, and he's like, all right. But. Y You keep doing and he's like well, my mom. Uses the GPO, my new Eric I was like what the fuck isn't like your mom uses it. Your mom removes the blood from your from your fucking underwear and he's like, yeah, this is what normal people do you have a fucking problem? You get a solution idiot. It's basically it's happening and I don't have a problem with it. Yeah. I might be a landing moron. The was Kyle Stan that was bringing out the I was I was definitely kyle think. Definitely Anymore Kyle on this argument, but that's okay. Oh, you're wrong. You're so wrong or going to agree to disagree. So, they decided the Michael Jackson has always wanted to be a little white girl and a children's pageant. So of course, you know what would do you do? The yet I mean, this is the obvious solution get dressed up as a little girl and then. Do, it, look let Mike do his thing and when. You have a problem. Find a solution. So whose side are you really on? Their boasts solutions they're both solutions to the same problem but I- Bud. All right. So Michael his talents that he likes to climb and sing trees That's what he does and she thinks that people that don't are ignorant and you know just too easy steps billy mays can climb over these seats and kick you right in the fucking balls and you know what? So there's also another story. So after like Michael Jackson died a little bit of time passed this South Park. Episode came out and that was actually an ongoing joke like in school at the time with me like I was around at also with me and specific I took to the with too easy steps. I can climb over these seats and kick you right in the fucking ball's line. I had a fucking field day with that, I use that line for so long That's fantastic. Always Nice when you get those nice little goto things like you shut the fuck up, I'm gonNA climb over these. Kick you the fucking balls Edson live man it's like right up there with That's just lettuce on the fuck you sandwich. Sir Right up there that's you probably haven't seen it because no one's seen it but it's this movie called. Dumb Blink from two thousand fourteen. Terrible but the ginger guy from A Christmas story is at which I didn't find out until later I didn't realize it wasn't later in like one of our group chats someone was like, Hey, you know those a fucking ginger guy from beaches are like bullied from Christmas door and I was like wait why you're looking at pictures it's like, yeah, dude fucking him and he is literally just a bigger version of that and don't blink and I wish I knew that like when I was watching it but I was still like Oh this guys are awesome. But like it, it would have been a different viewing. Damn, well, that's actually kind of like. Well, I guess he's not doing too well in a shitty movie guest but. Doing terrible. Guys good place in line. Wasn't in a good place in life in two thousand fourteen I'm sure he's like dad now he killed himself in that movie i. Don't know where he isn't real life Jeez looking further roles in any somebody with yellow eyes. You can't. You can't do it. So we watch this a typical creepy pageant, Shit. You know some typical old man Juergen off to three year old just what you see it every child pageant and that Michael Sings. A song about being a blonde little wacko. He's like and jazz. And Yoga. And? Shum Mon.. They really nailed it the whole gag they're really excited because they're like Oh these guys just really love Michael because they're fucking coming in their pants over here and there judge CD the MOM show Blue Kiss at the judges Oh God too much that not enough and then the cops pull in and you know it's a it's a really good scene because it's like mid judge you know the cops just pull in like no discussion anything they're like all right guys. Let's get you out of here. It is right out A. I love that I love any time like a movie or TV show or anything does something like that like there's no dialogue like you know it's what should happen and everyone's like, yeah of course, a cops gonna come in and pull these people out and they just come in there was like all right buddy. There's no. A setup like called anybody early putting. Anonymous, no Miranda right nothing. All right. Listen let let your pants or down Sir like. Listen Idiot can see the semen on your pant leg. It's right there. It's on your crotch it's it's all over the fucking table. Would you talk is everywhere? It's like it's like on these girls. At this point these guys are just like spewing their fluids all over the fucking room. Sir. This. Is a Wendy's yes. Sir Let's also talk about how many times I've been in a establishment that I've worked in and people have legitimately just been jacking off in there. fucking seats. Happens entirely too often wait really I can't tell me do a bitter night is not a bit a real fucking thing that's happened in my life many times you just look over in the corner of a place you're working restaurant or something like Oh there's a guy jacking off at the bar to someone sitting across from them this great. I. Could say their experience that that is that is now discussing. Oh Yeah No. Dad happens some people just need to go to jail for Durkin off a main. The last time that happened in my life was probably like three months ago while F- that's insane cabins very often it's fucking. Yeah. I wish it would be like South Park where a cop which is right be like all right buddy just take them out because everyone in the room would be fine with it in the room be like, yeah we all saw that dicked result you've fucking coming over your pant legs of the table and like splashing your shit ever take them out of the Fuck Hattie. Guys like John Doe from seven is he's writing in his notebook so I jerked off at Friday's today so. Yesterday jerked off here is just a jerk book man is it Jerk Book? I threw up on the bus and I dropped off after. Sisterhood of the traveling come filled pan. Oh. Yeah. It's the life that we live in fucking America but not in not in Brookner's of America apparently, you live the cushy America life where you don't see people jogging off at every fucking station. Please right into Horse Su. If you have seen somebody jerking off because I feel like that. This is just a novelty of your life that this can't be just a me thing. I almost beat someone with a bat actually I. Think about it this happen not just three months this month and half ago. Right right. Behind my work this homeless dude was jacket off to some fucking girls in the back and I had a dude, get the fuck Outta here and he was like, all right and there's also mid pandemic and he's throwing his fucking wings all over the floor and whatnot like is grow says bones on like no dude seriously get the fuck out right now he's like all right and then I walked back to my car grabbed my bat and I went back and I was like get the fuck out of here right now Sir Richard at least put a mask on your car. If you'RE GONNA jerk off I, mean just common decency yeah dude come on like There's a dumpster right there at least go in the dumpster closer doorman a love like that's like like you just at least do the bare minimum please. The. Bare Minimum. You're right. He's sitting next to a dumpster doing it. That has doors that they already fucking someone got bolt cutters and fucking. took the lock off. So now we can't lock that door. So now you just walk into throwaway trash and there's some dude doing crack right next to you dame. So interesting life man that's no one else lives life. She's fuck dude a feeling him just've alone over here in a dumpster jerker I am just I can't say I have that's alright. So I needed And he does system. So then the Golden Ticket Cartman sees the judge eating chipotle and he's like wait. She might not know because the last judge has just a female judge left obviously. This female judges into into Michael Jackson as a little girl as most would be and. He's like, Hey, I have this golden ticket. She might not know about Chapel A.. And Be Real. She doesn't know Yep and I. Love How she's kind of like ashamed of like what it does tour like well. I used to eat I used to enjoy it, but it's too hard talk about or whatever it is that she does. She's a little ashamed but also this is one of the most romantic scenes I've ever seen in TV history. You. Know they really have. They really have a heart to heart. carbons he's like, Hey, you know I know you want each polay. She's like well. I love it but I just oh, carman's like. Can't stand the bloody all the bloody asshole underwear, Kanye. Oh, my God you know. And they kind of they kiss a little bit. You know they have this really nice moment and he's like you know helped me out a little bit scratch my back I'll scratch yours monetary mono You know I might give you mono from my bloody astle underwear but don't give me your mono and they pretty much. You know Michael Jackson wins the badge in. Mike and I got it done. That's My Kid I don't. Let's not do that. Let's not make Mike and. There's really not make that thing I'd rather not is that where I just found the line says, okay. That's the of all the things that are the line that is the line. I'm drawing the fucking line at Mike and I can't do that. That's too much for this show. 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Adil Amarsi: Tactics And Formulas To Write Amazing Sales Copy

The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

1:27:11 hr | 1 year ago

Adil Amarsi: Tactics And Formulas To Write Amazing Sales Copy

"This is an intro intro. Intro intro. A if flow chart with four. Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome back to the hustle and flow chart podcast polish them. What was that? Like. Well, you know, it was I started listening to Conan O'Brien needs a friend off talking, and I listened to the one which if Goldblum and he won. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it face along with it. Because what he does see him because I've seen enough YouTube videos and movies of him. And he does that all right himself jazzy with all his body gyrates, everything interesting. This is literally what he likes. Jeff Goldblum show, but it's total. Brian second-best podcast. I've ever heard and you'll love all the ads to because he actually makes them fun amazing that we don't have ads like he does. But even though you'll always on pay off. My beach house literally says this is a section I call payoff cone into beach house, then eagles in the back. House with ads. Well, one day. We'll be running ads like him or something. But you don't talk about it. Probably today's episode. We should talk about copywriting. I guess we could you know, this is we have an expert or something on the show today. We're talking to adult mercy correctomundo and Joe always gives me crap. Because I always mispronounce his name. I always pronounce his name, right? When I'm talking to them when I'm not talking to my always, call them a deal that's true or Admiral I've never called Advil. Addle? Shit. I correct them every time. I'm like, it's not it's not because bugs me because aduls sensitive man, you'll hear how sensitive episode. But yeah, we're talking adult today on this. Do you were on his show last month? And he claims he's been chasing. I think you more than me, which is totally fine of a secret admirer I've been the object of his his his desire five years. He said, yeah. And I don't know how he's a you've avoided him for that long. Never avoided him. I don't remember seeing these messages might gatekeepers must have been to job as gatekeepers keepers ankle biters up. Yeah. So we, you know, somehow adult paid us off enough to go on our show your hand. I'm not going to disclose how much pay but it's fucking shit on. Honey. Not really, but. Yeah, this turned into a masterclass in copywriting that wasn't how it started. But that's well. I mean, we talk about we talk about daily routines and habits and getting into a good flow with your day and things like that. And then we shift into like copywriting talk. And you know, we've had other episodes in the past about copywriting. But this is probably the most tactical copywriting episode we've ever done where he literally gives you copywriting formula to follow like when you read a headline right at like this when you write bullets, right? I'm like this. When you structure a landing page structure the copy like this don't use this word don't. Yeah. All these different little subtle formulas and principles that he uses for copywriting. And you know, of course, he has deeper dive trainings and whatnot. But in this in this podcast, masterclass, basically, you're gonna walk away with all that stuff. So if you've ever struggled with writing. Copy for your product you need to listen to this. And if you don't listen, you could be leaving a lot of conversion percentage on the table. I'm sure you would be. So you're not a great copywriter. If you don't wanna be it still helps yet be a little bit more persuasive with everything you do. May or may not view some of attles, copyright statements. What we talk about on this road. We talk about our traffic book for a minute. We did. Yeah. Auto brought it up because he loves it. We asked what his favorite book was that was the one he mentioned I won the evergreen traffic playbook. And this thing is basically lines out in great detail, our traffic strategies, and because we have multiple little subtleties to all the stuff we interviewed a ton of people. So the guests and their traffic, traffic strategies or in the book as well. And Russia getting ready to update it we did it. So by the time you hear this. There may be an updated version or it will be coming very soon. And we'll either. When it's ready and just make sure it's totally free. If you just go to evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book, no spaces or dashes. It's evergreen profits dot com slash traffic book and one more time for good measure, evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book, you notice that like Conan on his show to and he's not a market anything. But he says the oral like four or five times because he has marketers who worked for hundred percent. It's just funny to hear someone like him who doesn't do any kind of ads and leg he gets all like, I don't know. Some people get really awkward and stuff. And it's it's like you like he embraces it. He leans into that shit. He's but he's like a total podcasting newbie. So it's kind of entertaining. Like, I knew what he's killing through for. Sure. But you know, we're here every province dot com slash traffic book to deal Marassi. Oh, man. Abilene kick ass. You have my mission. Let's him. Go talk to adult adult where live. Yes. Yeah. Are you ready for this? I think we people discussion we were just having before we hit record. How do we describe? That said discussion I think we can sum it up by seeing by. Damon? No. It was a conversation about always you Philadelphia. Now, we all have this song day, man. Stuck in her head, and I will learn that and guitar and serenade everyone force real quick. How does it go? Again. Just I'll do the part. I don't know the other. I don't either I'll join L joy, noon, where I know. It's like Damon. The night. The sun. That's really. All right anyway, start shirt. All right. I don't think which on the. This is fun. You guys are in for a ride. Oh, man. This is going to be anything like all show together on my podcast yet. You guys to have so much fun. Most likely will and we should link that in the show notes as well. Whatever. I don't yet is actually it's not released. He's not released. I think it will come out around the same time. This one comes out that'd be cool. So if the episode we did on your podcast is at the same time. We'll post it in the show notes. And if it's not we'll post it in the show notes when it is out. Yeah. Yeah. Same hit. But pretty much anytime the three of us get together on a call. We don't get together in person because you're not allowed to get together with us. Soon. Yeah, soon we always have a good time. We end up talking about comedy and other fun stuff that we won't get into right now. Now, people are gonna be interested. Like, why is he not allowed like, and we don't leave it at that. Exactly. I wanna leave it. He's not a leading states right now killed a man. There are so many avenues you guys a team meal full I can make jokes about I'm like just don't do it. They'll be plenty of time to slip them in throughout this conversation. Yes. I purposely said slip it in. Let's get right into it though. And let's talk about your backstory, we're curious describe addle, I don't even describe him. We don't need to describe describe himself. Okay. Cool figure out a very clear idea of me at the end of the episode. So let's let's get into your story. How did how did you get into the world of marketing and copywriting in all the stuff you're doing? Now. Tell us that story arc there. Okay. So I'll try and keep this brief because I know I can kind of go off tangent. So essentially of preamble basically, my dad was paralyzed when I was five to about seven years old from the waist down to disk if I remember correctly, and I have an older sister. She comes into partial reason of this story. You don't really hate from have up story for the rest of the Fordham say anyway, she basically used so the nineties had two channels in the UK light, you just basically full over you had conto network buses Nickelodeon. You have those in the US in the UK the the big deal. Me being five years old. I wanted to watch cartoons. My sister being several years old. I mean can reveal their age. But because she might slap me the to view listen to this. She basically used to always be from what Nickelodeon? So I came with idea that sit down watch whatever my dad was watching for as long as he was watching. And then when he moved I would change the channel then he can get mad at I'm like, dude. It's six o'clock. Let me wasn't contents. So is fine. But my dad's for shows would down to three things the fuss one was a game show cold fifteen to one it was like, trivial trivial pursuit, but with fifteen people, but you ask them questions to get eliminated around that kind of thing, I'm think weakest link, but Vom, oh, trivial pursuit and more like higher level than colleges because they asking really hot questions the other the show that he loved watching was a show called countdown. On if you guys have that in the US, don't don't think. So I'm not familiar with it yet basically rules. You get this to this two contestants and they have three oval rounds. I think it's like now full many round slight inside the each of the grounds. So basically starts off with they take tons where they ask for either consonants ovals up to like nine lettuce. And then they have thirty seconds make as many was up with those nine less is with with the highest point scented lending potential. So eight was or if he at nine year, eighteen points, six will five I think the small she can go was full you can get lower than full so my dad's in type session with that. And we want to help me look come up with the love woods. But those also mathematical component will you be able to pick either. You get six numbers any Ganey the have small numbers which. One to ten will big number twenty five fifty five hundred that make up like a random number and yet thirty seconds to solve it using the numbers that would given to you. So you like, okay cool high level problems dry. She sold right them that. So the fed one which throws everyone for a loop is actually at most my salesmanship on is my dad loved watching home the home shopping challenge. QVC literally watch Billy Mays two hours a day. So six days a week two hours a day of a two years. I had Billy Mays basically being drummed into my head. So obviously, I learned a lot from him. Anything or was he just like I do. I just want to listen to him sell himself ship. Yeah. That and it wasn't just him. Those like a few others Billy Mays as the main one. But yeah, that was like a huge thing back, then I was like really wide left wash this. But I just sat through it. And then I was like when I was twelve was Levin, Toby as old, mice schoolteacher, basically pulled my parents sign said, you son is he small he has essential with the problem is he writes, very slowly he'll get to the bottom of page like once they get to the boss move page. If I accidentally put like the comma, whatever any any punctuation of the end of the page, if I don't put it publicly the way, I very very much, Lloyd my mind, I get so frustrated I just pay Johnston again awhile like stop the whole page ago. So my teachers like that's kind of a problem. They didn't I g- knows me time. But if I went school now, I'd get diagnosed almost immediately but back then no diagnoses, given which was lovely. They told my parents, please get him to write. And that would just get price how quickly so my dad this as a challenge of this again, he will keep running company at this point. He'd been like does employs next bullets in that business will in my uncle's, basically, they used to get me to write stories full them about whatever was in the office. Whatever I see what I could think about I just have to write a story about around a year late to my parents separated for a little bit. So me of my sister, moved to another neighborhood adds another neighborhood entirely, but my school wasn't dad's neighborhood. So my time to go to school was I think I took like thought each fourteen minutes to school in back total out two hours a day. I do an hour on the bus each way. But it was socially kids. I just sit down basically right down a bunch of notes and stories from my dad and just write about them all the time. This one on at submit these give my dad these stories will time fast to me eighteen years old the wave onto mock thing was my old time oxen coach actually introduced me to network marketing fos, I grew my down line team really quickly. And then those like infighting between me and him. It was it was a bit weird. Site Tonto like trying to get was down line at once his own whole thing. So went online inside looking at traffic traffic exchange websites. Like, I think traffic's will swarm was one of them really way back in the day built my mailing list road blog post about the now amounting meals with time and had ten unique people view this page still little blog a page. I had going. Ahead. Seven painting money. Enjoy my team like seven people add no idea who they they just joined my team on that eighteen is all what the hell just happened. Good field around the around this time. A couple of months later, I end up going to mock Anastasia's event in London traffic, generationals listening cool at this point. I still don't know what the hell I'm doing a, Mike. What do I do? I know a couple people I know about Frank combo, blah. But I'm just a dumb kid was going on at this event. I I get really close with a lot of the speakers who end up eventually becoming clients. And I also realize at the time by wants to be a copyrights because is the inkling sites begin because I o people pay each white. What's that's interesting cool? And then again, they saw door to those sales trying to different things will actually transport myself, and then old change the a couple of days before Mike might nineteenth mature. Twentieth day. I it was a couple months athlet fuss van this of the Roseanne, and I got to crew for the green room and the guy asking what he could. I told him the story about light attempt. You'll see my site some pig people pay the ally. Oh, you're a copyright the hell's one of those. What is that? You get paid tens of thousands of dollars to help you sell the style. Like, he will do that say cool. So so excited I went out by low self esteem Cy charged as little as possible. Like, why would anyone pay money guy with no names? I was meeting networking. So I got a lot of people just being very interested in like walking. They helped me training me a lead me promos and this whole built up very quickly. So nineteen years old gun through did dose. Outling six months time. And so running like, you know, trying to copy to clients and at the time I was like cranking out full sales funnels in six hours chooses like you'd right? You'd be like, hey, adult need a click Bank sales led to Email. Seek swipe file launch page up sell down cell and a thank you page for customers after the vote. How long will take you as I get that done. Today's get that done one day on if you guys remember medical Dax a route. I remember the name home had he had this really cool. It was groundbreaking time. Because what press theme that was like two grand for the what never him. He was partnered with Jason Moffitt little while. So at the time, I like connected with them. I grow a letter forum and in about six hours it was overnight. So he sent me a thing of six six hours that led to went out to his list for a monthly continuity week did twenty five thousand dollars the next morning on one Email. We send out a sent out and that was monthly. That was a monthly twenty five grand becoming a forty nine dollars products. Like cool. I got my chops in what I'm doing and this continued on then like, I build up quick winds to the point that I think my fussed million dollar client. I had was a real estate training company that had about me they paid me three and a half thousand pounds at the time says ten years ago at the time it was round six seven thousand six six and a half thousand dollars was thousand dollars. Al's like, wow, that's amazing side never been paid that much money before. Yeah. But they also factored in gets the fast week of mailings. So what came into the fuss mailing in the first week would be give get up get freak sent after that. It'll be like that profit. But it was a fifteen thousand pound coasts nilly fatty grant to the site one year long coastline. Have people train you have this. Let the mailed Al I remember I was still doing dough sales at the time. And I remember get debts while I was knocking told my phone rang. My Bank asking me for money. I was like send you guys among soon possible some commission only salesman. So I'm not very good at my job 'cause I don't like being told. No, it feels would anyway fast track that through. I'm literally that twenty minutes late again get the phone calls that high yet is Mr. Amasi, please confirm police name goal. Great Oli like just to make you aware that there is a very long. Payment coming into your count. We will be putting it under review. But if everything verifies checks out, which looks like it will. Will basically release the money to inside a week. Oh, great. I call. I immediately got a call from my client like a couple of minutes him. What's up yet? Just double checking the Bank has said that the documents. But we just sent you a payment. Oh, cool. You guys mail the whole thanks didn't even drive. Yeah. I if I remember correctly was they did five million six million in sales in the fussed week after factor. Cousin pounds behalf about three million sales and week factor in the refund rate NFL, basically walked away about thirty thousand dollars of the end of that day there. He got about eighty grand my account the end of that day. I was like. Yup. That's a good number for me. How happy with this quickly job? Going down you I can pass and just face leaves a wind. Save never looked facts. I have looked back couple of times since them just gone on constantly develop McGrath. That's that's pretty awesome. Wait. So you're working two jobs. So that was that was the last time he worked for anyone else. Right. Even fulltime. No, no. I did take one last job. I think it was twenty two and I to what the Christmas period a retail company. That was the last time I had a job was working for retail coming seven SCO got it. So I would question, but I'm a little worried to ask it because I feel like it will come across as like a Dickey question of. So here's one thing. I've always wondered about like really really great copywriters like when a copywriter gets amazing at their craft, and they're really really good at selling stuff through the written word or through scripting videos, or that sort of thing I've always wondered why when that copywriter go and take their skill and instead of writing copy for other people take that skill in either right copy to promote affiliate products or write copy to create their own courses and sell. That course, why why do so money like world class copywriters go and sell their service instead of using the skills that they have to just you know, pad their own Bank account. I can't answer the copyrights of I can answer for me for me. It like mentioned Elliot, I really low self esteem. So it took me a really is still as me we longtime today to actually even be okay to say what I results names guys idea like at we're recording this March as of now I've done like five hundred seventy something million for my clients in the last eleven years of being copyrights. It was those not bad results over actually extremely great results considering the bulk of that only lasts for he is the reason I con is white didn't at least for longtime was identity affiliate promo route I did actually stopped using Judas members snipe ascites. Over the name like. For like, George Brown, Google or stone. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. So I made a killing on that. Yeah. I could see that. System the sort of Google sniper kind of concept where you're creating content and raking it for SEO, and then promoting affiliate products off the back end of that stuff. It's the same system that we use to make most of our money today. We just added PPC advertising into the mix as well. Yeah. It's it's a proven system. It was I think after a while. I just got tight alight having tried content constantly. So I didn't want to cause wasn't in my mind. It wasn't quick enough money. Because I was young. I was trying to again, we have this discussion full web when you're young in the app Tizoc world. Sometimes you wanna put your name on everything. But as you mature you kinda wanna take your name off every one hundred percent. Yes. So that was basically me. I was like, yeah. Let's do this. And I was like I wanna like mature out. Just we known for being this copyrighted by didn't want to just be a copyrights won't be this other. Crazy. Thanks as well. But the reason I didn't was I have a really I had a really hard time. We so young had hot time finding my voice. So whenever I wrote copy even content. If you go back to like, if you look at the last three years of my social media, posting any of the video whatever I don't put a lot of stuff out that it's not because I again, it's on. I don't have anything valuable to say why don't have anything like teach people because I do love teaching stuffs the problem. I had was did know had put out that it might voice it make an effect to everyone except try and save come out with a Roach down by the concepts would be really strange for people to invest sandals that have have held. I do this. So that's why it took me so long. And now, obviously, I do have training course, I've reaction sales. Let's that mold Email from stuff. Mass going out in round same time. This show goes live. So yeah, I'm actually moving towards that whole thing. I'm basically stunt Pat out my own banks count. School the other the other reason to I actually still right office of my stuff is savage like how you know awfully like how other people recap about one walk with. Honestly, it's experience and the other is I can't like I get bored. Shitless I get really bored. So that's why usually about four or five projects going same time. No fucking wearing on our show. Please. Yeah. Hell, no. Yeah. How dare I swear. Broke. Like what you're saying? Because I could relate to this. Because I think you, and I are similar in the fact that we did like I did a crapton client work back in the day and various similar. I would I didn't know my voice for a long time at do a lot of public stuff because I was so interested in doing the work that I was doing, but I was demanding you know, I very little money. But then a lot of money for these projects. And I'd be like oh shit. There's a lot of money. So then like for me, I wasn't thinking about the stuff like Matt was doing which was training or an Email list, the affiliate stuff like I was just so fricking in on the client stuff, and I've always been like that opposites spectrum to kind of speak into this whole conversation a little bit. I've always been really good at building funnels doing tech stuff doing written content. It's not persuasive. Just like, you know, how to Oriel type content like I've always sort of had a good grasp of the technical behind the scene stuff. The copyrighting was always sort of my blindspot. I've read. A lot of copywriting books. I've I have bought a lot of copywriting courses and to this day. I think all that stuff has really done for me as got me really good at looking at existing copy and finding areas to tweak it, but I still can't write copy from scratch to save my life. Yeah. Which you have me. It's true. That's I'm decent kinda getting something going. But definitely it's not the skill set. That's why the three of us are talking and tomorrow. There's like a weird thing that happens to where when you run your own business writing copy for your own stuff is the hardest copied or right? Like, you're so close, you're so attached. There's a very emotional attachment to stuff that you create yourself that creating copy to sort of like sell your baby that you've poured your all this time in your heart and soul into like that is the hardest copy in the world to right is the stuff that you have that strong emotional attachment to write and something that Jon Benson said to me when he was reading through light one of my sales. That's that he was helping with. Was he was like, dude? Why are you writing the if you read this? It just means that you're trying to prove to yourself a weather to sell this thing. Like, many goes sounds like someone is not convinced that you'll not convinced the good as everyone else says you all Esther like because I mind my God. I don't know what I'm doing all the time than than just ideas flow out. Every so often I had that genius just out on the champion and then raise lights on like what the hell am I doing mulling twelve minutes, but still, you know, I want to in that time. Entrepreneur at there too. So you're able. Normals relative, your foes gonna say something you said Joe really fascinated me was I actually still have a hard time charging a lot of money. But a lot of money's relative right because back in the day. I was charging five hundred bucks. Like a full fund will end today. Like, some I say Sombo it most my clients me upwards of shifting twenty thirty grand plus sent shock. She do things. But at the same time, I do take on clients that if I wanna walk with them, I will like deal with like just because it makes my life wall. Simply it makes that life a lot simpler, and I'm like, I actually wanna work with you. Because again, I wanna hang out with these people get to know them because I get along with right? Non for anyone that says that this doesn't happen as Auburn that you do Gilbert bit lonely if you hanging out with people have nine five 'cause you're like you cannot understand the ship ago. Yeah. You can't really there's a lot. You can't relate on. Yeah. It's also why you walking late today. Oh, it's two in the morning gug at distinct on as a debt by white because well, I said so the light will like on you do what we do in blowed off into in the morning get over the because I con. That's actually a pretty good segue into the next question and sort of topic. I want to get into is what what is your day to day. Look like when you wake up in the morning, like do you have any sort of warning routines? You know, what is your typical workday. Look like what kind of, you know, processes? Do you have in place to make sure you're getting done what you need to get done. Do you have a nighttime ritual before you go to bed? I'm just kind of curious if you can kinda quickly walk through what a day in the life looks like. Yeah. Shaw. And I'll say maybe two variations one is when I have a lot of client walk on board. Like, I do at moment. Buses when I'm relaxing and researching. This is always failures. And this is only recently become thing for me. Because before you slight gunslinger like crazy, like no screw got a web like six days a week take. No breaks Sunday. It was ridiculous. So why would do is I found my most the best recognize you might wanna get done in my day is I have to writes down. So a typical day for me starts at five to six in the morning attend six in the morning. The first thing I do get out of bed. Grab my jujitsu. Back literally run grab my clothes. Sue bag in my shoes. And I run to my bathroom closet on get dressed better team. Do the whole thing unless she outlaw if I don't do it that way, I won't get out of bed. Not go. So you literally run like your. That's awesome visual. I'm like, I thought that was just a note you're actually legitimately running to get your. Else? Like, you have to run you have to piece. Oh, bad the morning or something swipe running which that was the case, the no it's it's never that case rallied by like a run straight RA bathroom, I take zinc and the other reasons because I gotta get before. My cats jump down from refrigerator. The kitchen, and they know when I wake up those my cats, this woodridge will they know I'm gonna go to the bathroom and they race me if they get to the dole beforehand like push them away again the bathroom because vibe don't they get the bathroom as well. And they jumped in the in the in the tub, and then it's like a real pain the astronauts out sometimes leave. I go train I finish up my moaning classes that I get back because this is going to change after the move. So getting back to a central London is a bit of a bitch getting back to some moving around side of central London. It's gonna be a little easier by get home around nine fifteen nine thirty. I take shower at home because I don't like taking chows Jim take shower home get dressed have been Anna. This again is changing only marginally as of now is still train with my PT from ten thirty in the morning to eleven thirty. I come home, take my second shower. And then I eat something and get started around midday. The new schedule going towards is in that day is once I finished training have shower like after jujitsu that turns into gonna make breakfast and then spending an hour and a half just reading a drawing or creating basically I need. Something creative to get my day might bring bring going after that midday till about usually have it saved to settle about eight PM. But the reality is from between midday eight PM, that's copywriting. What is built into that? Like, if I'm writing something go right between these hours, if I'm researching research, these hours than it's social media posts, I have to make any emails. Right. Any follow? So that people podcasts that put together just anything that gonna do this technical? Of course, I'm not gonna be like, yeah. I don't have the TV on. I have music on. I have Netflix going sometimes take a full half hour off. Just just watch really dumb show. Oh, whatever it is just destroyed my brain, and then come back on charge usually playing with my cats around this time around five or six PM, how some food guessing tweet. And then it's as a reach round seven most times most people don't actually book anything flash seven PM. It's seven pianos round the time. They get shut down. If I'm on a deadline ah walks until about ten or eleven o'clock, if I don't have dead long just chilling out than seven P M F things, which is off, you know, just absent mood. I good movie a weed I wanna read listen to an audio book or gopher really long walk basically anything to stimulate my brain. And just speak to text though, my cold, I see how like a catch up with people. I really want like wanna catch with care about. And then yeah is just rights out though, as a lights out usually in bed for around. Eleven like ten thousand eleven o'clock is d we wanna go sleep. But the realities I usually don't get to sleep until about late midnight slash AM last night. It was like three thousand walling. But six so. Sleep, bro. Yeah. Yeah. You guys can handle that still sub badly still under fatty so can get away with it, like, another six months old men or. Cried the day up toba the day after I ten to eat that sleep deprivation skin age. I think that's what happens with them going to be a little race. All by Ashi. Have what happens Asian men, I'm actually Asian as well, by the way, but like not not far East Asian South Asian. Whole thing after like specified that Americans. It's oh, you're Asian. So you'll Indians. Well, we get a mostly Indians. Now. That's what you says happening like that that that hustle that need to succeed that you get born with from very unjust. It's expected from Amion stuff. Let you won't be loving. You won't be loved unless you succeed totally off. I. Driver at the same time. It probably knocks down got. What do you think the low self esteem came from it was born? That's where all usually everything's from the parents, or whatever they were raised, you know, it's just like frigging onion Trenet get through societal and cultural as well. So like that type process shovels, my point, what was my point shit. Basically like, you just get really tight like you. Save up all that time the tide and then the day after he hit its fatty, the daft Saturday fifty in some cases, like the day after you hit fifty just aged terribly like so quickly and one of my friends from Thailand, and he's halftime half Chinese. I love him for this. We watching kill Bill and kill Bill volume. Two pi main by the dude with along wispy white hair and stuff like a guarantee you guys that'll be me on day after my fiftieth look normal ago sleep normal awake of looking like that. Of nine how stress I have going on. I was like damn do. Yeah. I'm like, I'm I'm almost thirty six and I swear if I get like seven hours of sleep. I'm groggy. Too much too little. Yeah. No. I get about eight hours every night, my rarely rarely get less than eight hours. But when we're like, traveling for conferences and stuff, we'd never get eight hours. And I swear I'm like groggy. If I dropped below seven. We were at pod what we're podcast and just. Yeah. Any conference anytime like even TNC we're like so proud of ourselves to be back before midnight. Just like, wow, we are. I don't know older would just getting smarter priorities. Very it. Ourselves Pat on the back because there was like parties going on every night. And we decided not to go to them. I could go to this. But then tomorrow, I wouldn't feel great. I know smart adult thinking. I think this is the very first year. We're like, oh, wow. That's how it's supposed to feel like building as we get older. The foam of fact is like less and less like I don't care what you're doing right now. So I'm curious as is your routine. Like is there a purpose behind it? Like, you sound very structured, even though I know you're you get bored easily. I'm sure you yet change it up. How does it work? So the way I have it. It's very, okay. So this is quite a funnel segue. So just a little self promo warning guest. So the way that I teach copywriting is the exact same half older structures in my life. That that quote unquote rules the guidelines the guidelines on what I wanna do. And then I get fill those times with whatever the hell I want to. So my mornings always structure that I wanna train. I wanna do some form of movement emphasis, the reason I do jujitsu is because honestly, it's I it's my place to meditate is my place to let myself just be myself and creative, and I live in a big issue. A lot of my friends don't live nearby anymore. So a lot of my friendships cycle has shrunk significantly. So jujitsu is just the way from connect with other people in other humans. And not be like cooped up and be like what the hell the weld is passing outside. I wanna see it. But this is a great way to meet people in train my body enough now so jitsu is kind kinda like as my health in the morning. And I realized it was only like until like last September after my they I realize the reason I really like walking out in the morning in. I don't like doing. Any what before midday is? Because most of my clients don't wake up until midday pasta world. Secondly, I'm not really at my shop is in the morning. Like, I want to kind of relax inn, put myself in put might get my mind, right? Not really worry about the stresses of life. And again, you contact my phone so that that is a double pompous numb and given that myself times actually, choose myself. So it's like, you can have another training session. You can watch a moving that muni read a book you can play video game. You can do whatever the hell you want. You can that that time. My morning is old mine. I can do what? Hell I wanna go wrong. Oh for really long woken sought out. Founded Joe buying. Big issue of yours right now. Right now, it really is. You guys know because we had this discussion. I did not realize that was my realizing that maturing as adults when I realized I have buying my own violence. You kind of like a thing will here's a little side note, just for folks listening. We told adult about how most the furniture is really made from one manufacturer. And Adam ruins, everything is amazing show. Just probably piss you off a lot. But you learn a lot. Yeah. And learn about how the furniture industry is basically fixing prices to screw people over in pretty much every other industry in different ways. But yeah, carry on throw that up. I agree. Like, you guys told me about blew my mind was like. That let you hate them. But also you like, I totally respect. Joe hustle. Again has to be done. But the way it looked like Saft that might might eat patent is something, but by p t and everyone telling me awful because I've never really had a good eating passing by just don't eat a lease three or four us for like to eat in the wake up allows and good about. Why daylight full walking the afternoon, I realized that's why most productive when the sun is up. That's my light to what when the sun is down. Don't like to. I'm just like I can do podcasts in the evening. I try and schedule my shows throughout the day. But if that's the reason I schedule run sold out nine PM by eight till nine is my lash Slaw any of my shows, and I'll take Kohl's than because I'm token. It's okay. I'm doing podcasts into tainted. Likes those really happened. The evening is just fun time. It's like do things that are interesting that a fun. What can I do to relax? A Meghan go see friends on my just gonna light chill out with my cats and play with them. I going to play video games playing piano. I'm gonna just gonna find a way to express myself autistic Lii in any single way. All m I just gonna try and get some will walk done because that's an option on deadline. That's not nine ten times. Evening time comes I don't wanna buck like. Yes. That is my time to chill the fuck out because my time to like completely unplug and send you guys really random messages. Really really mean? And I'm like gonna find a way to respond the so you guys get you get Fugate. It is a random oddball hours too. It's like you should probably go to sleep. Do you guys will figure this out as well? Like, you will when I'm writing like if I'm writing something with a client and stuff. I know that's going to be like a launch thing Rodman, evergreen sometimes you'll get emails from like three or four in the morning like from my time when you're like is he still awake writing a sleep? Well, we'll this. I'm just interested. Because like, it's funny. We haven't really touched a lot touched a lot touched a lot. We haven't touched a lot of copywriting like tactics and all that stuff. And would you say that this what we're describing? Now, your routines and your habits and the way for your mind is is that like a good foundation for everybody to to kinda just get in the right mindset to right? I mean for business. This is kind of your more passionate. It sounds like about this. Or maybe it's just 'cause we're asking the questions about we haven't even got into the copywriting tactics. Which was the next avenue. We're gonna go down we guys just Joe's like, wait. And I thought, you know, okay. That's next. Just I I it's it's interesting because I think this is something that a lot of folks don't talk about. And I feel like this is good foundational stuff for no matter. What you're doing? Right. Like, we're gonna get into to to copywriting and talk about some copywriting tactics with the last, you know, twenty minutes we have here. So, but you know, as far as setting foundation for any business. I think having good habits. Good routines. Good sort of a morning routine, and like some sort of health routine that you you kind of get in the habit of doing. And you know, you have hours that you kind of have figured out that this is what my brain is functioning at the highest level that alone. Right. There's so damn smart. A lot of folks figure that out it's like win work, and I'm really gonna writing. I mean, that's like the most important thing. You can be. Yeah. For me. It's like if I have to do any sort of creative writing or persuasive writing if I'm gonna put my head down in rate. It's not gonna happen in the morning. It's going to happen. It maybe starting to in the afternoon. And then my brain starts to fire on all cylinders run. Like, all right. I'm in writing mode now, but I can't rate for like. Noon. It's just not gonna flow out of me. Sam. Yeah. I sometimes Canada. Again, it just takes it out of me. It's like whenever I write anything it takes. It takes time to build up. It just takes a lot of time. And but one of the things that you did mention Joe that we just want to answer is everything. I do I wouldn't say it isn't a bad foundation is a good foundation. But it's also because I've already done all the hard leveraged that hats to my earliest to get this. So there is there are three practices. I'll just have one. If you guys want announced just like three price. Everyone of my young copyrighted light my copy cubs to go through to release understanding how to write do you guys mind just shallows real quick number one pick a movie or book or video game that you are mostly attached to like when you play this. You get really emotional too. It it really does. To if it's video game. Find the cut scenes twelve. Basically read that book watch that movie will watch the cut scenes that of that game and write down whether emotional mock Zovko, you what comes up like pose it right down. Keep a journal. What does it starts telling you exactly what you mostly respond to have. You can understand why you will respond to that. And what it is strong inside of you in how that Aucas connected. You now have the ability to use that same emotional. Whoa into residents. But the presence that you have to emotion inside your copy. You can like the you'll consciously putting it in. Right. Like, it's a subconscious feeling that you're not really expressing internalize something. But now, you're kind of you're really starting to analyze this. Exactly. It's like the whole thing with I went to watch captain model, the slant Stanley tribute at the start of the model credits that that made me very teary, but not night in cry made me feel teary the one that really got me was when I was playing the Spiderman expansion game light on the on the PlayStation, listen as I finish this expansion game. Just had a picture spider man Stanley going. Thank you stand in this universe. And I was like that's touching because by van Stanley like really close like a grandfather son, creative child kind of relationship. And again that roots back down like reason, I feel as because of the relationship I have my father interesting. So I have a lot of that stuff going in my own mind. And that's really what becomes really powerful for me. And how aims Asif last like task by give every copyrights train in the second is to pick up a book cold if you not into this. I do have alternatives, but nearly everyone teach into some form of crime drama. I get them to pick up a copy of Chris kontos crucifix Killa, which is one of my favorite books. And I tell them to read through the reasons because like I have little tasks folding after appealed light report back to me after the red like ten chapters, which doesn't even take on like the champs the tiny show. So they sent me a message and the response I write by flu MS three check marks. Fast jet mach is. Okay. Do you have any idea? What's going on? Mike who the killer is the like, no, okay? Yes. They do. They have some theory. What it is second is do feel like going to look for the spoiler. What emotional is emotionally feeling as the? And what this does allows them to really understand how set expectation in story based copy, but also in actual reading stories it shows, you how to create like setups create that emotional wanting that constant role that want of pleasurable beliefs, but also keeping someone on the tend to hook just that like I really wanted to spoil his, but I won't because I really wanna read this book, you won't you won't spoil it for yourself. Because you you actually want to read it. It's that's the second practice of thud. Is actually really really simple. I think every copyrighted tells people to do this, and I'm very similar sense. Out a note pad and pen additional note Panapa a little note Panipat illegal have if you must and just start writing headlines. Just all writing headlines after headlines look old threat response ads. Right that headlines out see how you could tweak them. An oldest really kind light. It breaks down to really understanding. How to write the the h five cent of the copy like bad as the most powerful is. How do I create headlined the allows people keep reading and how do I stop building that story up? Now, of course, my coffee cubs. This point they know my system of how I write with mice structure. So they know exactly what the headlines have to go what they said lights go. What story pots open two of the van to stand that crazy of a decrease the creativity that haven't my mind. So if you combine those three things, which is unsettled, emotional mock in your favorite movies, both games. Ricotta spoken on down had to build on his patient wanted actual design. You can't do those Steph Stephen King as well. Bisi Chris conto because modern and it really hooks you from the very get go and the fed which is basically get get good pricing headlines because that's exactly what will draw people in those three very pound things. I like immediately. I love it love. How do we? Can you quickly breakdown headlines? Just for folks. Like, maybe a simple formula you have. So people have an idea of how to start practicing these things. Okay. So the first one that you guys know because we spoke about on my show is nephews the wealth lawn headlines any of your copy, actually, and you guys can go with why show with madman? Joe basically way just dissect that because it's a whole rant. The take my word for we've tested. It. Just don't use that. What basically what in short? Learn is like another effort. It's it's it's another thing you have to do. And it's another pain, that's very subconscious people the entrepreneurial and we avoid pain. So dip gamble joke. Avoid you. So there are three things I teach that the my three go To's for my headlines and they discover. If then and revealed so dead simple would be discover how met in Joe figured out that traffic figured out how to create thousands of unique visitors every single day using this very simple traffic souls. Whatever it is that could be and sub-headline to that with the gives you with the legion with revealed if then and I like to have them up so you can go with discovered this whole thing about like getting thousands of unique people using traffic source, if you if you're entre will business owner or just affiliate looking for a way trashy expand your reach than you need to eat every wet below. If then headline affect if it's a revealed headline. It's the thousand unique sub-headline will be revealed, the very the duddy inside a secret, the mocks is truly don't want you to know brought to you by two people who croaked the system very simple is like a way to actually create that story. So the formulas. Aw. Those three essentially, it's the discovery headline has so many formula, which is. Thing about to discover Broughton down into a benefit relates to them. While also giving some credibility to you. So like when the I would use would be. Give me among kid just any market. I don't care. What list will be good Monka jujitsu since we're excellent. Let's let's go like very basic beginning coal for someone jujitsu will actually list let's into media on because begin really easy because that self defense. Let's go into me get by post or light. You jets Kratz shins, why spend money on a course. Dead. Simple. It would be 'cause you can be broken down into eight six six Helen. God hath gone siphoned troll, mount background, and the stamps basically six positions jujitsu that you really need to understand. 'cause his talk mum's twelve still you want to understand six you'd pick one thing. So you'd pick with say take downs for jujitsu, and what you do dead. Simple. That would be a headline. Let's see. If you'll get if you'll getting jitters before shoot, if you'll if you're talking yourself out of gun for takedown against your opponent every single time you start standing the read everyone below revealed the three light the eighteen simple. Take down to anyone can do even if they only unifier lowly white belts will an advanced black belt to truly round out that game and then the opening paragraph which is basically start off with like, well, this is how I came up with the idea of the discovery statement of the opening statement to it's like. Dino rat out that game. One of the west to the Westwood's that I used to face in class was stop standing when Mike Mike micro says dot signing. When we sparring the reason being a new I could take guys down by was always scared of shooting, the double at over think it and next thing I know on my back in week position on top position. I'm not controlling the tempo. Of course, this really used the screamy up competition time really made everything I did a lot Honda. That was until I started to discover how. The eighteen little take downs. You can pick up right away implement into you'll into game and start reaping the benefits almost immediately, and you can be from a very very low level white belt all the way to an advanced black belt. I guarantee you you will not know the full nuances of of the system, we're about show, you the reason being we brought in elite restless to teach this while simultaneously apply high level competition analyzing what makes it what the grips the movement everything is broken down. But before I get into that let me introduce myself until you my own story of how I went from being scared of of take downs to taking down everyone of opponents at will. No matter how good that wrestling is. And then that's when you saw the story. So you have bad lines headline open. That's pretty impressive dictate your copy. All the time. Well, not all the time. I usually do when I get high consult. Yeah. That's that's impressive. Because that's yeah. You were just breaking down that formula. But now, do you usually much the same formula for like writing bullets too? 'cause I've heard a lot of people kind of describe bullets. Just you know, you're right. I shit on a headlines and a bunch of those headlines if they don't become the main headline they can become bullets. No, I have like a different formula bullets. The bullet formula uses quite simple point out the obvious. And then give them a reason. So if like, let's say, for instance. If we were looking at the same jujitsu, Kohl's like module one, for instance. 'cause the thing I don't do. I don't write bullet points in my actually main copy bullet point specifically in just the areas where counts which is when I'm making lists. When I'm telling them what the getting. That's it. I don't do bullet points on clients summarize whole sections of story because unlike that doesn't need to be summarize. You eat the way I look at least by this is a breakthrough for me right now on telling you oh eight no, I really don't do bullet points. And the whole reason for it is it's it feels like an interruption in story. If you story is good enough than people read all the way through until you get the boring parts. And that's when you make them. So how do how do you combat like the the skimmers the page skimmers is that we're subtitles coming up with subtitles? Yes. But it's also find the story. I mean, people do this all the time. It bugs the shit outta me. They have this thing where they write paragraphs as if there was still at school, right? Then not compensation if you ever read any of the copy, I put up I rally used to sentences in paragraph are usually use one sentence paragraphs one line power craps. So the most to full lines and town that was his style new paragraph. It's just totally is that readability for the most part. Yeah. It's just to ensure that when people skim through the get like the very. Very very important key things. They need to understand an old pots folded like media's get them going. Again, go match the whole bullets and just very quickly. I tell people that getting bios expansive, for instance, with a module one the correct handgrips in this module, you'll you'll uncover how to play Sheehan's probably on key and Nogi opponent in order to initiate, the takedown in this module is specifically cover which place your hands on your opponent because placing the belong in this is in front of placing your hands in the wrong place. Even by an inch actually changes pound dynamic entirely. Second bullet point would be a foot placement. Five drills. You need to have a start that you can start today. The will heavily improved a foot speed take down take down offense takedown defense, and the fed bullet point or even fifth would be an so much more. I always in three five seven's not three five seven nine. And the last one's always and so much more because next vacation. At really like pants out, but not fully pads, ipads, Allen someone's mind, if you haven't hot time late finding bullets just get the main ones out and let the and so much more let it expanded the by what the other stuff could be. So when you actually create that, you know, this more than what you've actually said, you just couldn't put into what's this little stinky shortcut and coming back to the skim reading thing people the way say like people will skim read because they even know you or the not really interested like the headline is going to catch the interest. If as video cash that interest nine out of ten times way, look at the way, I'm actually going to be testing is if they know you though, skim through see what the product is in mass fine. Just make it very abundantly clear whether protests what the old button is also they'll go by remove as much as possible if then new in this game reading that is you'll headline hasn't really done that great of a job. Really? Yeah. Bill skim through but they. Don't come back and read it Lehto than not interested. You had lines failed. You you'll copies not really like keeping that engagement way. This new lost potentially. Whilst custom about. Does he go? No, go ahead. Go ahead and finish your thought. I was just gonna say the way that I look at it as well. As like if someone headline and actually read the good headline and they come out late again. Like, I said, very they'll come back in read it, and they'll buy the thing, I'm testing this marriage thing. I'm testing gates is anytime I send an Email to a very very warm pot on my list. I want to build it for myself. My clients I wanna send to a sales page just the summary page is his getting his whites important, click this button, and by no more than two pages of copy. The headline is like, hey, I'm sung was saying read the reasons why below and his will do for you. That's just the headline in underneath that. No story. No, nothing. Just bam. Bam. Bam by issues. Those are the people that already knew you then. No like entrust, you dotting. So that the most big. Skimmers that you'll find the ones that they sleep like need a lot more convincing stuff like that. They'll get sent to the oval has more information and that some one test against I wanna see which one combat sputter. Yeah. One of one of the guys that I worked with pretty closely. A couple years back is a guy named Travis Sega. I'm sure you're familiar with love the drives him. Yeah. One of the things that he taught me to do is kind of like, you said, you you can actually have two different sales messages for the people that are already sort of a warmed up audience at Ardy. No, you versus just driving cold traffic to it. So he had this concept of essentially making a sales page that was nothing. But like, a headline, you know, ten bullets to testimonials, and that's your entire sales page and those work extremely well to warmed up audiences, but that won't work well to you know, if you're just driving cold traffic from Facebook or something like that and we've experimented with quite a bit. We've even experimented with like putting the checkout right on that same page. You have you know, a headline maybe a sub-headline seven or eight bullet points to testimonials and. Than the checkout button. Right and bedded on that page. So it's all on a single page a one page funnel. And those have worked really really really well for us to warmed up audiences at Ardy know that we exist. Yeah. That's cool. I love this formula. That was good. How does this same some of these same concepts translate to video or you kind of? Are you like pure written sales letter, they transformed to everything like it's the way look at when you understand so alluded to this lob the reasons I can run through pots very quickly for you guys. With I write my formula is like seventeen steps all the way through. And once you understand this formula is basically the Rosetta Stone, and then you can go look at other things apply to all of the headlines headline that Cisco page, but if you're doing VS L, the straight from the do is many people have different formulas than that's just the truth to understand fully is Hollywood has different genres that you have different rices full. Right. You have the you can't Magus have the same director who is known for directing high weld class action movies like high out day national movies than turn around period drama. Right. Usually not really hot of. So same thing happen. The copywriting exactly. Like Nisha 's what we have is. We just picked nieces, but the truth is if we have John Roos this different styles. So John's Jon Benson. Who was the godfather VS elemental? Factually, actually, he does his thing web one things that he likes to grab attention, and he has a nightmare story. It's a brilliant formula the way the I have mindset how is once. They have the headline sub-headline, which is to tell them to watch video I go directly into the opening power. So my headline say, for instance, would be discover how you could create copy in less than three hours using a very simple formula. If you've ever struggled to write a copy, I'm gonna take you from a complete novice to seek class copyrights inside five hours what's video below and the videos immediately, go to go into meet moc moc was one of my students who really didn't unsound shortcut his copywriting chops, in fact, after he finished my training. He ended getting his twelve hundred dollar close almost immediately any role that let record time, and it converted. Thanks Elsie wrote. In fact, I have a whole hold of these testimonials. But before I get into telling you what the formula is let me introduce myself. So I've used the exact same formula by done it video. And then just just it's it's tweaking one or two little, thanks. Yeah. I would assume webinars or similar yards just may be drawn out a longer. Yep. Email's the only ones the strange 'cause emails you got a kind of like landing pages of different while landing pages. Just like headline pep lying. Both points often testimonial. And this is a reveal by the way, I started playing with small will back in twenty fifteen twenty fourteen Puna testimonies on the landing page, I'm still consistently. Getting fifty sixty percent often on Mike Luke woman about thirty to forty on Colt. Not traffic. Ogden's even to the point where one of my friends had ninety point six Sen. often on his weapon while but which is like Mike fill same Coleman asked him. How he didn't teach light note by an adult at that ocean school. But the formula that's the formula Flanders the formulas for emails a little bit different. You've gotta have like as subject line, basically engaging. And then you have to have an Email style like story based in quite interesting. Matt United discuss this very quickly give you a very quick outline of how I would write an Email. And the only reason I can kick that off of my mind go through that congruency is because I understand, okay. Where where's the positon? That's gonna this day. So it's always no appetite, and how do I specifically use the formula? I have in my mind find the story that matches them and find the story, you only give you a heads up. This is what I go supersonic in crazy in it's insane. So the way that you find your story. This is another formula. Is you ask yourself resets of questions number? One was migrate to was my victory in three how I get when you that Cole. She have multiple check points and each one of those little checkpoints had their own defeat victory. And how it got over stories figures out will never not a content that is gold of the. You talk about. And I'm sure I've probably told you this off recording before is we try to write an Email to our list every day. We wanna have a daily Email go out. And for me, I'm fairly good at writing the emails once I've got the concept in mind. But it's having the ideas for daily Email that I tend to struggle with. And just what you said, right? There is kind of like all right? There's my sort of writer's block cure for Email. So do we like hash out to brainstorm based off of that right there? Yeah. We have different places. The everyone has these you might be sending the thing. I don't have that many struggle to what I did. If you're a yoga teacher, why you yoga teacher ask yourself lap of because I love yoga, and it's happy. Okay. But why did you go into yoga what was the Kiwis when my back up, and I did yoga really home my back. And I saw it help my mom and she start get better. And then let you have all these different light. Rope checkpoints just basically hit to get to the point where your yoga teacher today. Always knit. It was because you had a bat of back now guess what in specialize in helping people heal bad backs, and you have a business thriving as you just did that that was starting point. So here here's a question super selfish. And it'll be obvious. Why in a second? How would you suggest doing that? When promoting podcast episodes. Do I tell our guest journey or do I tell a journey about like the insights? I got from the guest. What would you recommend in that area? It depends on the million. If you have huge guests like you mean, Joe? With. Such bowl sumptious. Well, I guess we are we are confirmed. Yes. Yeah. Stay. We spoke as well that we just say. I think we just did. So with us. I let anyone knows me. The I know that can you know, we've had conversations they've seen. Why to how just pull copy out the out like my mind just easily? They've seen all the stuff about me. I actually performed an Email. This kinda if we promote in this podcast. I just want you guys. Hey, so this is adult adult is just give a quick outline of how you know me. He's copyright too. And we met through a buddy, Brad. In fact, we put up Facebook post once gone show. He just basically ripped me for like ten minutes before the show saying how he's tried to get me on his show voyeurs that kind of thing. Yes. We actually after have that coal. We realized that we wanted him on all show. So we asked him he said, yes. And now here it his end. This is what we cover inside the show. So it's familiar base. It sounds like a friendly Email reminded from friends in case you need to go check out. Whereas if it's someone that you don't really know all that. Well, let you hung out. With them or you spoke like, you know of them, but you've not really got to know them on the show a little bit. You know, you've had guests for you're like, oh, this is cool. But I don't think speak to them like everyday if every week, I don't wanna touch base lem every week just like the cool passan, but that busy around life, right? We will have those people clearly what it would do. Then is I would use use my experience with that story. So it'd be something along the lines of. Hey, so just quick heads up. Today's guest went from and then go they went from complete poverty had no idea what we're doing. If you'd like say, imagine you like infused Stephen press feels like he was a quote unquote, now dwell until he was forty years old had no idea what he's doing. And then things just clicked into place after forty and this is all the stuff that he did. And he's gone, right? He's amazing books. In fact, when he had him on the show, these the some of these some of the things that we covered in the new put like three to five bullet points. And then you just say as also tomorrow while dues all send out a reminder, Email kinda gleaning off what I picked up from this interview. What Joan I picked from view, but send us in the Email back up to this address or just hit reply old post on us -ocial media page Intel's what you picked up from this. Recording with seen press have the links throughout now. What that does? It was Chris engagement. It creates a social interaction basically makes you look great with Email service providers. And ultimately, it bills in another reason to Email them that day 'cause when you send the next day you like so you had yesterday like we had some great feedback. Wish you haven't put any feedback go here lightly some feedback and listen to the show. These are some things I picked up while token St. impressed fuel and just was bringing cool like this. Now, you hit the two separate promotions about the same caution over two day period. And the that completely different approaches to get people to listen, I love that. No. That does knocks out like, you know, even to more emails every week. The follow ups, and you can always tie back into another product or something else. That's going on in our whatever we're doing. Yeah. And yet release us to that that guest. Yeah. Interesting because with our with our list, you know, when I mail about offers, right? If I'm saying, hey, here's a cool tool that we use. Here's a promotion, we're doing on one of the thing. One of the courses that we sell we get like insane response rates. We get amazing opens amazing click throughs whenever on promoting like something for people to buy for whatever reason when I promote podcast episodes. And I'm like, hey, here's the latest, and we use a very similar formula to what you kind of laid out of like, hey, if we know him real, well, hey, here's how we know him. Here's you know, some of the stuff we talked about. Here's a bullet list breakdown of some of the cool takeaways, you'll get go. Listen here kind of a similar kind of formula. But we get like fifty percent of the click through rate on podcast episodes and just content than we do when we're actually trying to sell people something, which seems very counter intuitive to me. But I think it just shows we have a list of people that enjoy our recommendations and buying stuff. But they're not necessarily always in the mood for content from us possibly, but what is lines generally when you're sending out an Email fro podcast. Oh, I mean, it's all over the place different stuff. All the time. I don't have any sort of subject line formula for emails. How To's involve typically doing those because we stopped getting response from them on our list. Right. But a lot of times. Now, it's kind of more blind subject lines. I'm trying to think of an example. But it's kind of like blind to what the topic is to try to get the the Email opened once somebody gets into the Email. It's kind of a more breakdown of. Here's what you're gonna learn on the road are open rates. Stay pretty consistent between promotional emails and podcast emails. It's our click through rate on those emails that take a big nosedive whenever I'm trying to drive traffic to content versus something for sale. So that that's just two guys quick will ideal. I would simple fix and by the way. Welcome everyone else to the same conversation. That's gonna take pot. You of this is a fly on the wool conversation because I tell them this private, but hey, it's content will be great. If you guys threats is something literally take from this Email intend to a subject line would be if you'll see your sock. Listen to this all if you don't know how to find your job, if you don't have to find your voice, all if you don't act create your own heroes. Johnny has like listen to this click, it, whatever the bland headline is when you went through the copy when you start like, so this is that we know him Bob, by the way, you can even throw like real sense of humor in this. Like, hey, hadel, just any this Email letting you know that we actually like we met this other guy. He's all about Greek guy, whatever in saved, by the way, you might want to listen to this. If you'll business isn't doing these. If you don't know what your stories if you don't if you're not getting least attempts at conversion rate on your sales pages your womb list. If you're having trouble getting. Whatever it is. If you webinars on combating thirty forty fifty percent, if what give him any reasons of web failing in that business in relation to what that thing that teaching what they're talking about on the podcast that gets the click through and you have to make an highlight those high links put those as the hyper links, notably. Like, if you're struggling with C TR, you need to listen to this. That's the actual link in the Email exactly if you'll if you'll sit if you'll landing page copy is less than thirty percent on cold traffic listens. Nine melas to this is like you just have that what we cover in. This interview is white landing page copy below fetch socks, and that's the hyperlink. Tell them to click hyperlink of the what? And then you have one very strong CPA, which is like a go hit and listen to this. And this is wise light go hit click. This listen to this podcast real quickly. If you don't this will happen, if you do this what you'll expect on this show, you give them like benefits. Not just almost like what we talk about like benefits, they could apply. We're right away. An just as just one of those things like for this thing, you can even say like how this conversation out really hilarious and fun than just became like. Holy. This is amass class. He's just letting riffing off enemy. He knows to give you I like that whole. It's almost like the negative spin on. It's not like what here's what you can get out of this. It's like, no, let's look at what you already have. And if it's not actually meeting these benchmarks that we put in these hyper links people are like oh. Oh, intrigue myself to that point. One of the things that Travis say go used to always say probably still does seven talked him in a while. But he always said that people are way more willing to spend money to move away from pain than they are towards pleasure. There you go. There you go. So if you're if we're writing copy, that's essentially like if you miss this. Here's the potential consequences. I think that's way more powerful than listen to this. Because here's what you're gonna get room. And it's yeah. And these people are in the game already. They want to improve. It's not like here's what I can do. It's great. I don't really need it. But like, I got some and shit ain't working. His real powerful aspect you want only make that his what you're gonna be missing out like ten to twenty percent of copy the rest being the other way of what will game. It's a blend. It's one of the reasons why my sales flexes do high than most others is because I fall Jay process. Like, I'm not gonna stab you in the back and make you feel like you'll shitty. And then you have to buy from me to relieve this pain, rather, I'm going to make you aware that you will, you know, if you don't take care of this Beasley consequences, but the rest of the copies telling you about the promised land like it's not all gloom doom in hell. It's like, hey, his will reasons why you wanna go to heaven. But hey, just a quick heads up. These things will get you to hell Jensen's. Like, no, it's like a dynamic conversation. They get both sides. And that's what causes fine friends. Yeah. I love it in relatable to you. You understand the issues they're going through and what their possible capable of. Yeah. Likely. I love this. I know I'm sure we can actually probably carry on for another hour and a half, but due to other time constraints. We have today, unfortunately, we're going to have to wrap up, but I can also. Most guarantee with no doubt, in my mind that they'll be around to at some point pretty pas if you're open to it that that is a strong on making on my part strong. I'm sorry. I made the assumption that we have friends that you made social we're on a podcast. It's pretty pretty much golden. He was going for. Risk put himself out on a limb and it paid off. I think paid off. It's cool. We're still talking more. So it's also in public record now so shit. Editors right? Noory times. No, we're friends. Right. No. And then just move on with the conversation never address it again, like editing. His magic, dude true. But then again, I sound relying on the propensity to know that you guys don't like editing. Accurate in. That fact found are hell right there. We do not at it shit on this podcast. We were doing around when walked away for twenty seconds. Are we walk for twenty minutes, and it going to spit random crap promoted stuff, and we're never going to know because it just goes alive without us, actually. Here. We messed up if you listen to transcript of this. I think I actually did that for like twenty minutes. It just went on. It's if we weren't enjoying it. We would've stopped you trust me. That is true. Matt I did not look at each other and be like what? All right. So a couple last minute questions before we wrap up here. You actually already mentioned one book in the call the the crucifix killer. Wisconsin Chris Carter. Yep. Any other books that you highly recommend our audience, go checkout or that you tend to refer to often or that you recommend often. The laws of human nature by rob green that just came out. Let's excellent book to understand how people think at really is in depth. Like, I'd suggest get in the audiobook version because it's twenty hours of content. Get both like use as reference manual trust me, it's worth the if you on audible site one credit so gach while meme ships, what the twenty five bucks, you'd pay cool dividends of the other one also pick up photos of how you can get that on YouTube or whatever the law. That's the only Robert Greene I've read and that was the one that was referencing fifty cent. But it's really good. I listen to it on audio book fifty cent actually voices his parts. It's it's an excellent book is basically every rob green book is one of my favorite books. Everything that he's done. So if I had my one start with Lowes, human nature, Berlin, Dan, Leslie, Don, Leslie, does the voice school the forty pound. You guys love his voice. It's it's so wealth that flap of John but moving on another book vote actually recommend everyone pick up. We'd. Asimo to do with like story based on the standing is wide story by Lisa Kron that CRO N. What was the name of the book? Again. Can you repeat that why full story wired for steward for story? Okay gun. Yeah. Great book like absolutely amazing. She basically teach you took a reader in from the get go when writing a book, and you take those same principles and put them in your business to go. But yeah, those those are the boats another one the evergreen traffic thing was called evergreen traffic with playbook yet. That's a really good book to read like him authors like a little bit that they'll Jackie sometimes you get along with the find bigger they can really be Dick's. But the presenters were the I think they know what they're doing the, prima donnas. Their egos are like insane reserve there is no roof on madhouse anymore. Because are you goes busted through you, go? It's crazy. Do you have any like, tools or software or anything like that? You just can't live without now that you use them. God though, so many let's go with. Slack is pretty good though. Still not huge fan of it by duly cycle. My phone's look you get better than that. Yeah. Oh, I don't get into like. So brain FM is one of my favorites. A good one. I yeah, I'm surpri-. We I don't think I've heard anybody else recommend that in a long enough M's. Really? I love that kind of stuff brain. We got a great update coming up, by the way will tell you guys wipe after show, although I actually tend to do more of that brain FM stuff just through Spotify spotty as a whole bunch of that kind of stuff on it. Now, I use different apps, but it is send me the goddamn links. The spot of ice off guys another really fun. I do like to use is horn hub. They don't have an app for that yet. This the guy this contest like open the white come on guys we need to do this. The boat here, although wouldn't get approved onto the apple stores. That's. I don't care this this these other two apps three apps of I've had only they all notably great for taking notes by hand. I actually use bite my day to day job wings. Well, are you? Are you an ipad Prue and pencil guy? I actually got the I ipad nine point seven realizing use a pencil on that as well. Okay. You guys actually pushed me towards gonna get the remarkable. But then you look at night at final at either. Have ipad pros with pencils yet? Either. A lot of people to do and we both have talked about getting them. And we just haven't done it yet hasn't been a burning desire to. Right. So that was notable right? No to -bility ability. And the last one is procreate on ipad as well. Which is autism app is just really drawing sketching might think to relax. I watch Bob Ross nighttime pain to awesome, dude. Acutally see doing that myself. Actually, I've used a procreate on my sister's i-ipad, he's an artist and I found it. Absolutely amazing. I did a yeah. I did three hours just frigging sketching my dog because he can trace over a picture, and you have is amazing. And then Bob Ross we're on a plane actually in Orlando. And I watch an episode of Bob Ross, I'm like holy shit. He's just like he just makes you feel good. I just forgot about it. And it's like eighty three years something, and I could see everything's layers. You know, you can see the steps and procreates a perfect example I can implement that. Now. That's right. Oh, I agree. Perfect meditation practice. To all right. Yeah. Well, what was there? Another one. I have at your your courses, and you mentioned that where can people go find this? If they go check out the copywriters room dot com by the time the show comes out, it should be at its actual price which swollen nine five. If it's for whatever reason still nine nine five just enter the key of the AKU pong, code hustle. Actually. Yeah. Just hustle and you'll basically get like five hundred bucks also before nine five to actually get in. And that's divulging all might knowledge on how I write sales copy, including ten different niches were actually on there like ten from businesses. 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2020 Tour de France Stage 21

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41:31 min | 2 months ago

2020 Tour de France Stage 21

"Just, come in coming in where you can. You can see the Eiffel Tower in the distance no matter what plays you're coming in I last Green Jersey polka-dot really doesn't matter the emotions are high. It's such. It's such a brutally hard race that you get in there and you're just so happy is about to be over I think that time you you know you make that I bend 'cause you kind of come in from the outskirts and then you turn on as soon as you can on the the the Shawn's Liza you see the Arc de Triomphe for me that was like Oh. Man. All right everybody. Welcome back to the move podcast brought to each and every day by ring I'm your host Lance Armstrong. Look in a little different today if you see this on youtube or one of the video formats sitting here with Jay behavior and a man who looks completely. Different. Because he finally shaved his face. Had to do it and you know, I was going to do it on the last day. Was a big decision. Monster. 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How good we all look I enjoyed is by the way this is Georgia's idea but I just feel like now's the time to rock. The silvery aviators this look that I got going on. How sicker these like a man on a mission to look is completed. I'm a very serious man right now. This company started by bad s athletes specifically forbade s athletes that means every one of you. These are the titanium aviators. Love Them. That got the Gecko grip so you can go out and. Run a ride or fish or whatever. The hell you WANNA do they don't fall off Evan and their light and and you look like this? clean-shaven. We might even have a little surprise for you later with those. Yeah. How you I don. I don't. You know I I. I will just admit this and I don't want to admit it. You actually think you look better than me. It takes a lot for me to say that I love the tie though I love the we got the we tie. We'll. We'll. We'll zoom in on that maybe later. That came from our good friend Matt Mcginn two years ago he sent it to him as like. When the fuck of my ever GonNa wear that time. And today's the day. Pulled it off today today who won the Tour de France today's the day I'm aware I hate wearing ties. Head on over to Roka are okay a dot com there's our flow code. Type in the move for twenty percent off your first purchase. I don't even know what to talk I mean. Should we talk about you know what we forgot we got so we got silver clamped over sully in that pitch which I'm still like I was sweating before because the died and then I was really sweating after. We've forgotten land talking about states twenty one on his last day. Stage, twenty-one. Mark Leisurely to Biracial more. More. Julie to. At least some Cillizza. was, an eerie place there wasn't. You had some officials there maybe a handful of key sponsors but the line of the show there was nobody they had no, no spectators allowed. It was freaky. No not not many cars either there was no. Motorbike motorcycle were allowed in that weren't necess- essential. So the journalists had to pull off before they got to the circuit, but I did see a lot of people coming into Paris. Oh so kind of Nice as he and a little bit concerning of course. Yeah. You're you've been reading the book. And then reading the book. Bennett, of course proves that he deserves to win the Green Jersey I mean that was he made that looked pretty easy made that looked pretty easy He hadn't he had an awesome lead from Markov. Perfect perfect position. We've all done that finished many times. I've been in that same situation whereas leading out mark avenues and it's it's stressful. It's fast. It's dangerous but these guys they held their composer I mean I was talking to you earlier about quickstep always seems to get the sprinters at their peak with with more cavendish obviously Bennett now be beyond the last year Marcel kiddle he they they have A. Knack for picking the best sprinters at their peak. Well, Patrick favors no dummy. I mean he's been at this a long time and and The whole team, all the other directors they. Yeah They are the steppers so which which is a more emotional feeling after three weeks of suffering when you first see the cityscape pairs or when you hit the shops. Well go ahead. Well, I mean just just just come in coming in. We can see you can see the Eiffel Tower in the distance no matter what place you're coming in I last Green Jersey polka-dot it really doesn't matter the emotions are high it's such a it's such a brutally hard race that you get in there and you're just so happy that is about to be over I. think that time you you you you know you make that I bend because you kind of come in from the outskirts and then you turn on as soon as you get on the. the. You see the arc-de-triomphe for me. That was like, Oh man right on the right the hotel. where. We always stay and the American embassy right there. I mean just like embassy row there. It's crazy. I mean it's you know it's a special by the way too. We also noted. When we were racing. All my years there was a hairpin turn at the top by the Arctic trip. So they didn't go all the way around in front of it. Right? They turn right in front of it and it was like a one eighty hot doctor right and it was if you were in the back and you know those guys are then going down hill sprinting and you're still. Hitting the breaks going uphill. It was the just young. It's totally different that it affects the race totally different going all the way around I was like man that would well not to mention how much more direct pick dress and makes a circuit on the final final day the Tour de France. That's kind of a mind boggling that it took so long to actually do that. Is this is this scillies. I want you to confirm something this wasn't in our show notes but I you know they do today did a short speech at the end. And I, remember you doing it unfortunately. Put someone said, no, they didn't do that until you did it. Now it's kind of become a tradition that they stopped I don't have. Much for the speech, I don't remember. The last couple of years, but that was interesting to watch this year. Is Right Well, we got to talk about him I mean he was he was in, we got a little intel, of course to our our trusted source George over there with all the friends We got some some information about some of his power data you know the kid was just. Exceptional and it's interesting too. We also have this'll be an interesting site because we were talking about a and I was in I hope it didn't come off as being critical. I wasn't trying to say that that team is week they just didn't have to do anything they could. They could ride the wheels. They never had pressure to carry the race or pulling back or pulling the mountains. But if you pull up this slide, he exist see that actually this is this comes from an are and I don't even know what do you have any other thing to do in life? Because it is scary, the fact that you can whip these things and I know you do and I'm sorry. But the fact of this might even be easier for you right So she another yet another map and graph thing for us and look at one more stages than anybody else in spike's. Tim Uae. Yeah. We gotta go back to a about a week ago when. I was speaking to one of the guys very, very close to the team and they were actually saying we're actually happy that POCAR lost a minute in that crossman section because in all of a sudden, they don't have any of the pressure to control the race so they were able to just. Sit back when I mean very lightly because it's still a very difficult job keeping your leader out of trouble but not have to actually ever get to the front and and do the grunt work. So to speak put them in the ideal situation and according to Johann on the additional show feeding catch it I mean his Intel says, that was their plan all along they a done recon. Gotcha had had ridden that time trial course. Four Times I. Got To rest in that day instead of pre riding it that same day. But that was their plan from the the Geico they knew it come down to that time trial did a full ray simulation. He had no power meter on their no computer. So he just he knew that course like the back of his hand and he knew exactly the kind of effort needed to do and how much faster was he the Times on all the climbs especially, the iconic ones are the important ones. How much faster was he? Then I think you should wiggins and woman Boorda interestingly enough in two, thousand, twelve I believe. Wiggins. Second on the stage I think from one I was there cadel Evans third it but coming into that climb I've done it a couple of times you coming into with Peleton. So as you know, you come in with series momentum basically not even in the first five hundred meters. Were yesterday Bogut Stop Change Bikes. So when from a good speed coming in at threshold or over threshold stop and chain bikes and Russillo. reaccelerate and getting their rhythm back still went forty seconds faster. Those guys which is. My parents on six point nine watts per kilo of. nerds man that's the bom I gotta give him a boom stick for that Holy Shit. No. Good for him. The other thing he did the last three weeks which he's been writing Colnago for years. But this is there's a little bit of a controversy around this Johan was took us to task a little bit but. Technically are as a branded Colnago you bike fans have known they've been around since nineteen, fifty two. So call it. Almost seventy years. This is one of the biggest and most iconic bike brands in the world. They've won every bike race known to man except the Tour de France. Right. That that's amazing. Now, Eddy Merckx did ride a coal Nago. One of his tour wins that was painted as as his own line, which of course then went on to build and sell. Many many years later but. You, know to me that's I went on a Nago and it was great to see It'd be great to see or Nest Oakland Nago actually with the bike yesterday making sure it came out nice brand new yellow call Nago that got hand delivered overnight and the mechanics build it up this morning. The other thing Johan pointed out yesterday you have all these new names that we've talked about. It's been the recurring theme for the last year but not only was it Nago I win you had called Nago and Bianchi Duke it out. He's like he's classic brand. Kind. Cool. It is cool. But that is definitely very cool. Those are some of the most iconic brands in our sport. By. Tell you if your team jumbo VIZMA. You gotta be leaving here going. What just happened what? It's like a bad dream. What happened I mean they? And, we all thought that they had it in hand. You know that's one of those things you wonder what? What that does to a team long-term. Yeah I mean I I. I'm struggling to to imagine Primoz being in that same position next year like I said yesterday I mean I feel like the stars were all aligned everything went absolutely perfect for him. He was in the best shape of his life like nothing nothing at all went wrong. Throughout the whole Tour de France. You got someone like Pogo charge twenty one years old probably getting better We'll be better next year you saw his numbers I mean looking at his numbers. I, think even of a very fit from a very fit bernal, you know all these guys I don't at this level, they can't beat them with those numbers. Now they can't beat them and it's not fair to bring it up in hindsight but you know if you were looking back knowing, what would we do differently if the same scenario, which will never get that chance to do Georgia, I talked about how this right down to have played the Dumoulin car because he had to enough of a gce threat he was close enough. So do you play that? sent him up the road, put them on the ropes. So bit make them pull, make them work the team. I mean. All sit here I hate these people say, Oh, this is what you have done. Anything about, crazy. With confidence they wrote with composer I. Mean they they wrote like rockstars so I mean, yeah. They have done some things differently looking back but the throughout the race. Continued to impress they had you know the best of the best team in the raised by far they won raises in the sprints they wanted to climbing races So yeah, looking back maybe they could have done different things but I think they wrote a perfect race. So if we did, here's a question for you George. If we did have a section of the show that we just could be a daily section or recap section where we talk about winners and losers right now that we need to get into this but do you think the jumbo visa which category do they leave in? For. Started so. Little circle coming. For Them Louis Losers, they had an amazing Tour de France but they're leaving sangre because they have one goal they had one goal and got. There he's had to pull it off one more day and they had an epic meltdown. Man. And Man. Let's take care of business before we get into the last part of the show and I have a feeling we have some embarrassing slides at nobody's shown me that are gonNA, come up. But I just looked at myself and. It's going to be okay lance. I want everybody to take a series of McGinty starting to climb up the building. Because nobody noticed that this is a we do ties. Let me move over. You guys see that right? How sick is that things Matt? 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They're giving away a free bike head on over to vent him racine dot com slash the move. Register to win the bike also twenty percents off any purchase until the end of October. Yeah. So let's talk about twenty, twenty, one, I know that's what we have Only forty have what am I keep getting stuck thinking that this is July it's now we don't even have to wait forty nine. A SULLY ISM. But wait there's more this gets better and better we only have to wait assume in the world goes back to normal which hope it does we only have to wait I. Don't know. Yeah. Less weeks. So this is going to be between the obviously burn all winning last year bogut are this year by the way the second youngest winner in the history of the tour I would actually take. take that to task because you know the the the youngest winner was nineteen. Most people divide cycling into pre and post World Wars and so in modern cycling, he's by far the youngest winner. His birthday tomorrow by the way what a birthday gift? Yeah. So the question you're going to go on to win five, six, seven tours, I'll remind you. We had this conversation last year about Bernal Yup. We we said and think I. I said last year I said if I'm a twenty year, old kid wants to be in the sport for ten years I might be looking for. Other things to do be a classic. Shorter stay specialist but we set out about him. Yeah. We gotta there's no guarantees. He's gotTa Stay Mosa. Which I got to remind you our good Buddy Allen Piper gave the a team, the most good speech. So Dad, thank you the most good his living on. The Mike It'd be. Back to. You guys brought it up again and again and people don't realize how many stars have to align for consecutive tour this just a million little things right and We don't need to get into the. You know there's Stuff, we talked about the other day handling the fame of this. He's he's you know and and I don't even know how many people in Colombia barely know her Columbia is bigger than Slovenia, but it's a small country he is going to be. You if not the biggest sports star in that country because star then top three. So how he goes home and handles all that still got to come back and do all the hard work. But it's Having. said all that you got Bernal you got. You Got Remco. You got some. You know who knows what wildfire and art develops into what might help him is, for book, PA- Gotcha. Is that we have all this rescheduled fall season normally there'd be worlds and kind of wrapping up. Yeah. So my question and I was hoping you and I meant to ask you this last. Night Giorgio. Is he going to do the world's that I'm not sure Johan says, yes. No and and Raj. Yeah well, if he's doing the wh how many days until the world again, I think it's Sunday. So a week from now. Yeah I mean. Yeah if he. Boy To do it perfectly as of super hardcore if he can manage this week perfectly. I mean he's he's a young writer and He's a really accomplished the biggest thing you can accomplish in cycling I I would hate to see the team push him too much the rest of this year I mean he's done. Amazing. I hope I I'd like to see him have much less pressure for the rest of the year. Also I would look I want you to know because told me earlier. We've had a lot of comments from listeners that. A lot of them agree that the winner of the world's doesn't come out of the Tour de France. So halfway. We'll see we'll see that on Sunday nineteen professional wins already in his career. Dude thing about that. Long to get nineteen. Name, that's amazing. We gotTA talk about We're going to give boom stick award. Winning somebody emailed me, I'll wait to hear an email about this got to give a boom stick award for the best. Domestique of the Tour de France, each have our own. I'm sure you have Wednesday but minds go to Wild Ben Art. Domestique with a tour of the best one not only did he win a couple of stages to stages but he was the the rock star throughout the for the whole team pulling on the climbs pulling on the crosswinds That is probably the best team mate you can have in race monster up to you. Now Monster my my boom server go. Boom. Boom. He's not in the race. He's not pedaling the bike. Oh boy. What Yogi. Bear. It's got to be the best domestique. I don't care about I. don't care what you said. This is a more this. Okay. This is I'm changing the award. My boom stick goes to Alan, Piper? Yeah. This guy is. One of the smartest guys in the sport he is Johan. Bruyneel ask You know he's been on a bunch of teams and he just in I even remember when we used to race on Motorola was Sean, he would always talk about Piper. Piper always knew it was going to happen. Piper always, he just had a nose for any race whether it's a Kerr mess in Belgium or Perry needs or the tour or the world's or plant didn't matter. He just had to know he was most good. He was most good before most most most and I had the pleasure of working with Alan for a couple of years on on high road and not to mention he just got over. Life and death battle with cancer, and so getting over that to where he is right now Alan we love you man we were happy to see you back on the road and winning the biggest bike race in the world I was getting messages from a lady in Belgium send alum a couple of videos and you know these things go everybody it. It's tough when you see somebody being treated, they don't look well right. They don't look they don't look like they're gonNA live. And so then people start is not gonNa Land GonNa me so. Not not this particular case was like that but. To bounce back from that the men the men not only Bradley smart on the bike but he is a perfectionist. The man would carry around an iron and suitcase in iron shirt every day before it went out, come a hotel room. Yes he would. He is. His suitcase was perfectly packed had an iron I mean he is Prim, and proper as you can get. Damn. And Breaking news no sheikhs in. Paris on Jesse's. Which is The sponsors were thirty two. Tonight in other words. How come Kobe Kobe not parties I guess there's and France say that grant gatherings of that size are not allowed. So we were doing team parties and celebrations with hundreds of people not just announcers. Fans friends family in none of that. Why actually asked the our one of our on the road correspondence today what are they? All doing? A lot of teams are actually just catering bringing food into their tells in just staying in the bubble so to speak. I wouldn't mind that. Way. I'm tired. I don't have to go hang out with. Parties man that one thousand five I was pretty rockstar legendary legendary legendary. jv What else we got we've got some slides and a few last email comments again, one pertaining to the swear jar. Yeah because we. Look. This show is what it is. Right. It's it's totally unfiltered. It's are honest take on what's happened and you know every time every now and again a bad word slips, but I'll get to the swear jar and a second. But that this the all the you know the few I don't know how many Higgs probably we'll probably get like a thousand emails. He said we've got a few so. I'd rather be anyways we'll try to make up some of this. There's a silver lining inside that's where, in fact, I'll share that email now and then we'll get those slides ready but it says J. B. George Lance can't thank you enough for another great year of covering the Tour de France early on in the show you mentioned the swear jar. But I quickly saw it disappear and you guys never mentioned again. Just for fun I started keeping a tally of every time lance cussed on the show. and. That's not counting today. Well, you cussed are you ready? Yeah. No, I'm not. You're gonNA tell me. You said you were gonNA make a donation for right I haven't said that. Yes. You one hundred and five times, which is about an average of five times per show. I just thought you might WanNa know that's from Tony G. G. Gee, here's your silver lining and I'm GONNA. Talk about a charity that I'd like to dedicate this to. So in this I'm GonNa make this deal I'm to it's going to be retroactive deal but it's GonNa, be forever. So in perpetuity for every bad word I say by the way I, don't tried I don't mean to say them they just slip out. So for every bad word, I say, we need to start sort of figure. Out What is a bad word in? What is a not a bad word so maybe all can help us with that. But for every bad word, twenty bucks goes into swear jar and next next tour I promise you I will have a stack of twenty's right here and I'll put it in there. Every time and f-bomb comes out s bomber whatever we defined to be a bad word and I'm going to dedicate it all to charity. Not that that's going to motivate me to say more bad words but So my charity that I would like to dedicate this year swear jar to is the million mile half marathon right? We all know that outdoor events in mass participation events are. There almost impossible. To have now, a mistake ovid million mile half marathon is super cool. It's a premier. So it's a virtual running event that unites athletes across the Globe and sheared race experienced folks on making a meaningful impact in the fight. Against Childhood Cancer Right. So head on over two million mile half marathon dot. com by the way seventy, six thousand runners. That'd be cool. Master event. One of these days. In. September is Childhood Cancer Awareness Month. So twenty bucks. So what you what is it twenty a? Twenty Times one five that's GonNa that's GonNa sting a little but I'm sending my twenty one five over to the million. Mile. Half Marathon. Three. All right forever forever I mean maybe we should pick different charities every year but the swear deal with the swear jar and the giveback is forever On every episode of the move I'm not got a couple more of these comments in the question, but and we'll do kind of wrap up with are funny slides but. For the final episode Lance and George said, let should let the listeners in on one of their best party stories. You guys just brought this. One I know I'm also curious if cycling is similar to other sports where the partying of the past has almost disappeared due to more rigorous training and nutrition plans. Lance and George notice the difference between older riders when they started in their career versus younger riders later in their career. What, what was a particular tour or stage race or perhaps town known for its party scene We had a we had a somewhat similar conversation years ago when we somebody asked us about sex on the tour. Don't get nervous George. I'm not talking about your safe here. Okay. NELLS over there. She's not. She may not hopefully look at her phone and that didn't you know we joked about Cipollini and all this but. You can't party of the Tour de France I'm and they'll have a party tonight and they'll poe party in the season or. If there's a period and the season where they have a natural break, they'll have some have some fun but this sports too hard. But the part of it, I liked when you guys came in as the young guys where the old guys partners. Yes. Yes. They were. They were little more loose. It was it was a lot more loose and his things I mean. When we came into the sport, they didn't have heart rate monitors. Yeah now they're staring at the. White meters, heart rate monitors, and we're here today I spoke to. One of the big in the Peleton he's saying there's guys doing seven hour rides on the turbo trainer just looking at their watts I mean imagine that just being endorsed for seven hundred somebody needs a party holy. Hell. Here's one last comment of this is from David and it says My housemate in Bali is from Slovenia. She told me. Slovenia. Is the only country with love and her name. But I. Feel that entire country is reading that book that I had. Parties. Parties that countries can be throwing down I imagine. They. Safely, man comments that we're seeing is they're they're really torn. Let. Just the same way we were driving away we were we. Wanted to see rogue Lich win they love PGA are I did love seeing Roget's today I mean what a classy classy duties out there hanging out with Pogo? had smile on his face and you know he's just. I can't help but to be a fan of this guy by the way if they're not buddies, then he's a lot smarter than he looks and he's a lot smarter than Keanu Reeves looks. because. That's that is the smartest thing he could have done just be gracious and I'm not saying their friends or difference but yeah, I mean that's that's glass I mean he's Seems like a chill guy just seems keeps his mouth shut. You know he's not. You never see them raising his hands getting in it just keeps himself and he seems like a guy who's already decided after yesterday. Okay. Back to work I think. So yeah back to work and. Now they have this this year's template. For next year Tour de France and you know guarantee you recreate covid. Well, hopefully, not that I guarantee you, the tactics will be a lot different knowing that what kind of obviously the pressure now will be on guitar he and his team you're man Allen Piper going to have to well, that's what I today. We're GONNA, bring some more money, and now that he won the tour because he's going to have to have a much better team to be able to Do, it Jomo did this year. Yeah and muscle money and Muscle Yup. I get the money. You get the muscle George nailed. Sol is so good might be a good time to see if we is somebody got up their ass. Oh. My Lord. It looks like he's got off their ass this. This is Joe Natale powder, the powder two of us, and this is I get enough trouble for saying bad words on this swearing now, we did not need the. We'll do we didn't need the mountain blood. That's that is Joe, could you have just taken that out? Let's just let's just say that it's a mountain of elementary. Look was my beard that thick or is that was that? was. You had like a breakfast Burrito in their from three days back yesterday. Wow. I, missed the beard. You're knowing you. It'll take you a week to get back know. If we if we ended up doing world's next week and you might see the beer on the way back. Here's another slide Oh. Yeah. Come on. GimMe Gimme the gators right there. Right there. The Silver Fox how you doing? I mean if that's not. Put the slide back of I want to see if I really looked like that thing I do actually amazing and again if y'all are listen man you gotTa Watch us this is some funny Shit Y'all send. Painted the Fox two of the we do logo I think Pete Is. Okay. Now, we're talking with the aviators, the top gun slide Justin Williams make a cameo Andy Andy Schlaug. JV Back. There man. Great. They're coming in. I think we have one more higgs cracked. Here's here's my favorite one. This is what I've been. Bullshit right here. What is that that? That's what you look like the mountain bike with the with the belly showing I mean you had the little tank top. So I thought it'd be great to see you as a belly dancer and we are. You know man. Whose idea was to do a Tour de France podcast. I don't I don't deserve this. Hey as much. You give each other this has been an awesome awesome three weeks. I had a lot of fun like I tell all of our friends. It's so easy for us to talk about what is the Tour de France feel like we've lived every scenario and I'm GonNa Miss You guys when I go home tomorrow. Guides, I don't know that I'm GonNa Miss Y'all but. I know that I just and I'd say that just because you know it's not that it's bit stressful. I actually. Got So many people coming in in and out of your house for all three weeks. I know my would go crazy. Yeah, it's Well, you know we we did it. We did it again and and special thanks to Johan. Bruyneel and Victor Hugo. Yeah. The whole team cranking out shows without you J B with we would be imagined George and I just sit here. You guys We might start wrestling or arm wrestling or there's no doubt. We got a rock star team with with JV in the bag higgins chief and cheery I mean we got we got a solid squad here y'all everybody at Inkwell. Media. Yeah you know tiffany. Especially thank you Yep Yep. and. And is said at the top of the show thanks to everybody that supported us what before you shut it down we got one more video. Up in here. Breaking news why? Why didn't you say that a minute ago when he's already, we're speaking about our better halves. So when a throw up something. That's right. This is we saved the best for last no, no, no no. What's happening on the right? Why don't you have a block under your ashort? What am I doing? I was role that again. Is that a consistent with what's going on the boomerang going is that a boomerang? Wait a minute. You look a little shifty. So this is a this is a yoga class that George I taped with my much much much better half Anna who's a bad s yoga instructor we talked about the other day. Can. We don't need zoom in. That cannot be real that can't be real. You're just sitting. CanNot look at my face. Okay. You know what I am never doing yoga ever again yogis out there. All you all you. Enlightened people I'm done man this is what they. Go in there to try to get a little little flow I taught the class was awesome. It was. The. Best and I'm going to sign up for that starting a whole series of yoga classes online move with Anna. Macau I know and that class is four cyclist in its it's specific and She thought it would be a great idea to do some specific obviously regular classes but specific stuff. So Yoga for cyclists Yoga for Golfers Yoga for deejays, Yoga for Yogis for Yogis you just yogi right and so but D. Dan I. didn't realize I was I knew I knew there filming but I didn't I this is funny sometimes you just don't know. What you're doing like the faces you're making and the the twitching. Well and Maybe it's our last note here where we're trying to figure out if you look at the remaining fall schedule as crazy, the Jiro overlaps with classics of wealth overlaps with classics. So we're going to try to figure out the best way to do weekly recaps and look at everything that's going on in the scene. It's going to be all over the place. So Rama, seen me I don't have to watch two more grand tours. Not Day well, if you catch up daily and. Don't forget. Tour of Flanders Impera Bay coming up as well in the world championships in in the fall, which is super exciting. So we got some great racing lots. Yeah. All right, everybody. Thanks for hanging with us the last three weeks. We hope we know it's crazy times unprecedented. Weird. Unfortunate Times but we appreciate it and we look forward to coming back in the fall and then looking forward to tour twenty twenty one. So with that. We out we out. Yeah. See you almost. Bama Samos, we're going to go rhino. I think. So get your by shepherds. Shave you guys later, guys.

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Positioning Your Landscape Company For Success and Attracting The Customer You Want

Landscape Disruptors

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Positioning Your Landscape Company For Success and Attracting The Customer You Want

"Hey everyone I'm your host Stanley genetic and welcome to the landscape disruptors podcast landscape disruptors is a platform that showcases top performers in the landscape and Snow Industry and discusses all things related to business and I this is a platform for sharing advice that relates to helping landscapers build successful and well planned out businesses of their own. Yours can expect a variety of guest experts to talk about all functions related to business including sales marketing, making better equipment decisions and a variety of other topics that will help you the more efficient and more profitable landscaping company. You can learn more about our free content at landscape. DISRUPTORS, DOT com. Before I into our guest today, I wanNA give a big shout out to element software. They're the ones that are making this happen I've personally been using their software, my own company for the last year, and it's a complete game changer for my business. 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Yup, in your local marketplace in your entering conversation that's already going on in the customer's head in the buying line for being totally cold. Okay. which it could take somebody a year to be hot weather. They're ready to buy yesterday you WANNA come in when they're nice and warm and they're ready to convert immediately to lower your customer acquisition costs. See you get an. Right right in the milk and honey, and then that's how you can get the lease rolling in quicker and when I when I say by entering a conversation that's already going on your customers heads it all comes down to the copywriting that you're using in your ads stuff. That's very simple. Okay. You're talking about the initial ad when they're starting to look their war there warm on their own. Do we WANNA move your dogs? Okay. This is My House. and. We're taking a little bit of a pause. And we're back. So now they're warming their head and they're looking and researching for someone to come in, they want a higher how do you get yourself to be that I call? Yes. So there's two ways you can do that. One way is through. Paid advertising and marketing online through Google Google Edwards facebook ads paying for door hangers, flyers, postcards putting ads in the paper online advertising lets you pay your way to get to the top and he who spends the most to acquire customer wins. The second way is through an boats should be done, but that's through organic marketing and one is word of mouth which is offline but online is organic marketing through word of mouth in the form of positive reviews and referrals and other people saying great things about your. Business. So in the organic, way. or in the paid way when somebody Sees if if they're looking for your service, H H HVAC plumbing landscaping doesn't matter they go online type in the landscaper near me. Right. Your goal is to get into the to the Google three pack and you should research that as soon as possible. So you're gonNA, see a bunch of pay dad's you're gonNA see Google organic three pack. If you can get into the three pack is as possible the most important. But then when the customer clicks on that, going to bring them to your Google. My business, your page, and if they're looking to spend maybe over thousand dollars. Whatever is a little bit higher ticket to them. It could be a fifty thousand dollar hearts gate project. They're going to go to the website, and in start qualifying seeing is this a company that I even want to pick up the phone and call Before they even never decided to write a check or read at deposit, they're going to go take a look at what other people said about this business. What does their website look like? Can I see pictures of the work they've done? Are they showing that they're a trusted verified licensed insured business without any complaints and things like that and so if all looks good in your in the top ten percent, you become that one of three quotes that they're gonNA call. Now, if you have a called action on your website or your marketing or some type of special offer that can even bump you head through cut through the noise faster. That, you can have some limited time offer something that shows that you are. your. You can create a lot of value for them upfront. And they can instantly like sink their teeth in it. It's almost like giving results in advance just by looking at your website or your even your facebook page if you have beautiful videos and they could just be made on your cell phone but it would I mean as like a before and after and you have showing the process of what you do Kinda like billy mays the caboose cleaner guy of the commercials. Yeah. If you're showing the process of what you do in the Finnish result and have good happy client testimonials and all these things, these customers might come. There's there's a way higher chance they're gonNA come onto your page and look at your presence the way. All the alignment and the font and the colors and everything just shows trust stability and structure A. This looks like a business oil. They look like they've been around twenty years I like they're not even go look at any other website. They're just GONNA hang out on your website and now they're coming. into. Your funnel came to your website because they wanna be sold their skeptical there has dead, but they don't want to go to the next website. It's not what they WANNA. Do they want they want to go to one spot go? This is the Guy Yup and get in the right place he has. So the number one thing that. People go to actually the number. One page is the about page, right? It's not it's not products services it's not pricing number one go to spot on any website is the about page because people want to get to know who they're inviting into their life. It's a weird thing but. They feel comfortable about you after reading the about page and they go then they move on right I mean this is just the generalized people go into this one section and it's a weird thing he went think that's where they're going but that's where they're going. That's the difference very smart. Yes. In great observation into add to that for all you guys and gals listening right now everything we're talking about discussing is a hundred percent within your control. Whether you do it yourself or you hire somebody who understands how to help. You do this implemented quickly you can get all this built out on your website, your social media, your profiles, and make make sure everything. Matches, them has a sense of congruency. Now, let's talk about pulling the customer into your funnel. The next step is they're either gonNA, leave a their information on your website contact form in order to be contacted or scheduled quote, or they're going to pick up the phone and call. Everything we're talking right now is positioning see when I first started marketing, positioning that word upset me like what do you mean positioning? So if you look at like apple or Maserati or some of the biggest brands ever, if you just burn example tonight, go on Apple's website and take a look the way they position themselves is like the experts there the authorities through the best of the best there is nothing second-best about what they do. They don't position for price they don't even that's not even like all. It's its position for quality and to provide something that people can't get anywhere else. Right And so like when I was marketing my company originally, I had a e you kinda come to a crossroads. What do I want to be known for and one of the things that have wanted to be known for was quality. Not I wasn't going to be the cheapest at what it I didn't even want price to be something. That was one of those things like Oh. Hey. What are you guys? Church That's the opening question. I know. I don't WanNa. Bother me because that's where you get tire kickers I was. Focusing on eliminating the tyre kickers out of it, and so that's where when you present the quality people expect to pay for that quality. and. That's a great point. So to add to what standards saying from another angle, how that can serve you and understanding just to create some context around this. You know I grew up on the poor side of town. When I was young, we didn't hire anybody to do our landscaping. So if you didn't. If you didn't have all those things and you're going on those these million dollar properties, it might be a little bit of a barrier Ori Hurdle free to get over to understand how can charge these prices twenty, thirty, forty, thousand for some landscape job. But the truth of the matter is like Stanford saying people. In the right people, your target customer, which is your customer Avatar that made you kind of draw all the criteria of what is my perfect customer, right so you can make your marketing talk to that customer and that customer usually. For the Speaking your benefit of of your. Business. Is. The customer WHO's not looking for the cheapest price. So when they come into a website and everything looks very structured and organized, it looks like a professional company that alone starts weeding out the low price tyre kickers think about this. Have you ever gone on some website or you went to? Make a purchase and you're like WHOA. This looks Kinda. Okay there definitely I'm definitely not going to get the cheapest price here and you might bounce right. So people know who they're hiring when I first started my landscaping business I was upset. And I didn't understand why I was getting all the cheapest customers and getting the run around and it was it was really hard and I wasn't aware that I was getting back when I was putting out. Right? I didn't show any sense of establishment so. That's because I didn't know that this marketing stuff was under my control. So let's let's shortcut a lot of these trials and errors realize this as inside if your control what. So where do you recommend a guy to go? So when you're talking about a setting up a marketing campaign, do you have any clear pass that you'd like to give these guys a sensitive erection toward to to start working toward? Yeah I do. before I say that I wanNA make the distinction between a campaign in a promotion. So a promotion would be like something. It's a one time offer lasts for a week or the fourth of July sale you know but a campaign something that keeps going and going and going and going you're campaigning. For many many many months and when you think of terms of campaign that means something that you're flying the flag for your company in, you're taking on new clients and here's a great direction to go. First of all to learn, we're talking about learning talking about the execution of what you can actually do to meet the rubber to the road to get some real results in your business like effective right away. But. there's an amazing book that I love. There's a few of them here and marketings a huge topic, but just dive in wherever you see, and then you'll start to connect the dots for yourself. The guerrilla marketing tactics by Jay Conrad Levinson. Beautiful Book On back read that book you read number you liked it I don't remember. A good book I'm sorry you don't remember another one of my favorite authors that talks about this. His name is John Janse J. O. N. J. N. T., S. C. H., and he has a book called Duct Tape Marketing. Tons of low costs no ways that you can low cost no cost ways that you can market your business. If you want to get further into trying to think of a good resource, I'm not trying to pitch you anything here I literally have some free stuff too. Yeah visit. Okay. Yeah. For sure these I'm having you because you know marketing right manure landscaper, but you actually put on marketing courses. Yes. So this is why I wanted you. Into this, if you have resources for these either totally free resource talents I have I've an ongoing blog posts article. You can my blog, Keith, Kelly dot com Ford slash seven steps. My name is Katie I T H K L F A S. in the show notes and then you can get my free seven step guide to Marketing Your Business and it's stuff that really works but just to cover some of the modalities of the way of doing Funds You don't want to have any more than two fonts on your website or some type of advertisement. When you find that really works for your business stick with those funds don't start changing the fonts every month or from website to website, and you can find one to two favorite funds. Then your customers whether they can articulate consciously or not felt like I know that company because they know that fun when you get your logo come down with your color scheme, your colors science some really nice contrast in colors could be green and black or blue, and yellow, or blue and white. One. Two colors to colors is good. Three Max but not too many colors not too many funds simple wins you want. Simplicity. Simple Fonts simple calls to action simple words. You WanNa write the words on your website as if you were talking to a third grader literally if you if you're coming up with some words on your website like above the fold means when somebody comes to your website on their phone around the Laptop Computer what are they seeing when they first come on the website without having to scroll down at all? They should see something that asks a question or enters conversation that's already going on in their head that says, I'm in the right place. Then there should be some immediate call to action or something that they know they can call now or something because when they come to your website, they're thinking, well, what do I get? What do I get? What do I get? So you've got to think in terms of them. And that's the same goes for your for your post postcards, marketing your flyers, business cards, and. Let's see colors funds some. So I WANNA talk about marketing campaign where I learned that less is more. Yes and it was by a marketing company that was doing a campaign for a watch company in the watch company had a whole bunch of different models, available lodges and they said Hey we want to showcase these nine watch brands the marketing company said, well, that's not gonNa work in what had it's too much too. Confusing and they're back was against the wall in the watch. So you're going to do we will we want you to do because we're paying for it and the live in the market can be fine. But then let's do an AB test and so this is something that might might be good for these guys as well as AB testing in that means you when you put a campaign now you put a campaign out with. A campaign, a B campaign and see which one is more effective with the marketing company did with this watch company was they put marketed one watch on an ad and then they marketed Watch. And the one, the one that the marketing campaign that had the one watch on the end was a night and day performance improvement over the night too much is too confusing. People don't want that many choices. One or two choices at. Tends to be about it. Then you start to overwhelm them three or four especially even when you're talking to a customer, it's easy to lose them because inside of our heads, we've been doing this since in inside of the industry for so long and customers will neither had they'll shake their head. You'll think they're following along and you lost them so far back that they don't even know where to get back onto the ride. That's huge. Yeah, and you're not concealing or hiding anything for customers of anything you're protecting them and serving them at a higher level. That's your job as the contractor to take care of all the fine details and finding out what is the most important things you can say or not say to articulate that you're the right person to go with. And you got a back up here. What you're what you're promising because all marketing is is making a promise in the marketplace that you will deliver a specific result. Marketing is making promises. And then? After that. As everything is good and. You should be able to move forward very swiftly. So What else? Oh? Yeah. Positioning now, when the customer picks up the phone to call, this is so huge. The way that you sound when you pick up the phone or the way, your secretary or calling centers sounds immediately positions and creates a picture in the customer's mind of who they're dealing with. Is there a lot of noise in the background are you stressed out? You sound like you're up in a tree around a piece of equipment or you calm and resourceful and there and ready to serve the customer they can hear in your very tone of voice and that's the difference of what is going to be in your business checking account in six months or not. Based on just the way you sound when you communicate with customers. So I I'm a bit of an anxious person sometimes when I have a lot going on but when the phone rings. I'd rather not pick it up, then pick it up and speak really. Ah So. Thank you for calling Joe's landscaping. How can I help you? Quite Syria enough. Okay. Do it again so After being in the business fears and banging my head against the wall and I started learning about positioning a sturdy relaxing lowering my tone and talking to the customers in a more assured tone. And then they started saying, is this a answering machine? My talking to a robot? Okay. So did that were good for you that it did did you have to excellent I was able to prequalify customers over the phone and close more jobs, higher ticket prices with more consistency just by slowing down a little bit and talking less and listening more. Oh, what you just said, right? There is the most important thing talking less than listening more let the customer talk because when you're talking you're losing. They your there you're sounding board when I say when you're talking, you're losing you've gotTa talk just enough to say that the key phrases that need to capture. But what they're trying to, they're trying to expressed their desire to you what they want and they want somebody that's going to listen to them and deliver to them, and if you're talking all, you're telling them is your own thoughts not hearing what they have to say. Let's huge, and here's a golden nugget. Sometimes when a customer's talking. I've felt that I had I, feel like I need to respond. But I practice just There's something called Oh really why's that? It's got it from old amway taped from loan. So if you want somebody to talk themselves right into the sale or tell you anything. Instead of talking after they talk, you just go Oh really why is that is that? A really why is that and then the literally? because. Really they just want to feel fully understood some people want to feel that you fully understand why they want to. Spend thirty thousand dollars on this pool or something right and it for them. It goes get can go all the way back fifteen years to some story in their head. Doesn't matter as much as you know. The the circumstance that they wanNA feel your presence. And that they're fully understood. And you don't have to say much. Hey, they will like. Do you need a deposit I got customers asking me now like weeks in advance if they can give me a deposit checks for something, we haven't even finished the conversation yet. I'm still walking with them on the property you're talking to them on the phone. And so that would that what you're doing? Right there is if you like that. You respond with questions a really. Okay. So is it in the front yard of the backyard? Are you a homeowner are you an investor? Okay, how long is the pool been there? What is the current landscaping condition? You start asking these qualifying questions that they'll step back and they'll be like, oh, I'm dealing with an expert here I like this. So when you ask all these questions, it's almost like When you? You get to the point where you've been through jump through so many hoops and you've been through all these scenarios to now you're of pushing back and saying I'm qualifying you to see if I even WanNa work with you 'cause I only work with very specific people all these things. This criteria has the match and we should fit like a glove to see if we're good fit once you start talking like that these customers who are tire kickers, they'll get off the phone quick. They'll start weeding themselves out and then you'll notice that you're not. Talking to a hundred people to get you know or or a five minute phone conversation can literally save you an hour trip. Have you ever walked around a property for an hour? Spent all the time preparing a bid and you're banging your head against the wall frustrated because you don't know why you didn't get it. It's because you jumped the gun and you started assuming. You, you're going to get the job, and this is all marketing everything I'm talking about. It's all positioning. So I talk. To jobs, where expectations I also like to find out what the expectations are before even leave, and so I'll set it up even during the initial phone consultation what's the budget and that's a very uncomfortable question most guys can't breach that question. But when I explained to I can go into a backyard and I can look at it a site and I can build a wall for five thousand dollars or I can go into the same site and we can spend fifty thousand dollars. I've done it. I've done both different scenarios for different customers to meet their. Needs and expectations. So if I don't have a starting point, I can't even begin to know which way to go with your project, and so I need to establish by most would be like why don't even know what this is GonNa cost? Well, I don't know what it's GonNa cost either because if I don't have the budget established I can't walk you through what all we can do on your property. I need you to set up the initial budget, and then we work together to reverse engineer and to create the thing that you want done within your budget constraints. That is so good and you see how how Stan is talking like, I, I learned a lot from Stanton he's mentored me also. He's out of what we call the fighter flight mode or the sympathetic nervous system takes over and you're like you're in survival mode, the more you can. Get. Out of that. So the more you can get out of that. The more you can't relax I'm into. This kind of psychology life coaching it really helps the business part if you can. Basically, simple. Just get a few wins under your belt and feel what it feels like to finally have a good website good marketing know that you can pull a certain lever and you'll get a certain response all when I do when I pull these lovers, the phone starts ringing off the hook you know that you can kind of make money at will in your business you can just make it happen. you start to feel comfortable and relaxed into a groove where you're not worried about every single job and closing every job. Then you can start to play around with actually just being yourself and relaxing around the customer and. Say Hey, you know what I'm GonNa Start qualifying them I'm GONNA. Start trying things. I. Never Try. You don't do it with all new customers you just tried with a percentage of them and ask them like Stanford, well, what's the budget like? What are we working with here? Right? So I'm for different projects I actually have different I call them sale sheets Sata. So when it comes to a retaining wall, I, have a retaining wall sale sheet, which is a process which allows me to to hone customer if they call me and they WANNA retaining wall and say, well, we can build it out of Bowlers, we can build a. Block we can. We can give you all of these options, but we start to narrow all of these things downs that were like a sniper rifle right on their topics. So when we go out to that site, we've already prequalified them. We've already gotten a budget number from him because there's nothing worse. There's nothing worse than driving up to say and having A. Thousand dollar rebuild job in a customer with a five hundred dollar budget, and because this comes from real world practical experience. Spend an hour out in the customer site, and then like how much is this gonNA constantly you know five grand and they're like, oh, I thought possible like five hundred dollars and I'm like I just spent I just wasted an hour with you. Because I didn't prequalify. You wasted an opportunity of my own time. Because I didn't ask the right questions out of the gate right away. There's no sense in wasting time Tyre kickers need to sometimes grab the bull by the horns and realize it's more fun to fire a costumer than it is to hire a customer, right? It's more fun to make sure that you're working with the right person right away. Then it is the find out you're working with the wrong person after you've already started the project, their expectations are the same. So when you over communicate. Clear up all those channels, e clear the lives, and then you can you know make a some more successful operation. By over. By focusing on these. And making sure that you've. Clearly communicating lies it what you're GonNa do and what you expect. I WanNa Bridge with what he's saying. I A youtube channel I talk I'm Keith. Kelsen on. Youtube and I talked to a lot of landscape startups. It's my passion and where Stanton says a guy who's been in business twenty plus years everybody in the neighborhood is heard of him and you know thousands of people have positive things to say about. So his phone rings off the hook all the time. So if you don't If you don't have a hundred leads a week coming down the pike how are you going to start to talk to customers like that? When you're afraid you could lose the only ones that you've got. That's why learning marketing. So Dang important. Here's a little experiment opened up a separate a checking account in your business and just put away I. Don't know how the size of your business you could do. Three percent of gross annual revenue is a small number to start with. But let's say five hundred dollars a month you put away in that checking account, and now you have to spend that every single month on marketing right now what you pay when you pay you pay attention. So if you delivered a Google adds a little bit on facebook, maybe do some print materials and every single month you're going through and you're measuring the Roi on that, and then you can start to tweak, tweak tweak it. That's too much. Try A hundred dollars. But When I'm saying is when you get their phone ringing a lot and you get a Lotta leads flowing, then you can work your way up to that. That's why marketing import and then on the back end, their search search engine optimization, which is seo, there's Google syrups with search engine, ranking page We can really deep and we don't have time for that here but. before you hire an expert, really really qualified them wear. Hiring expert to do search engine optimization. They're the biggest crooks. So. Zhen say that no bull below you can have some of those guys are they're bad news there's people that might know some old stuff for some gimmicks or some tricks that can literally destroyed demote and have Google penalize your website black hat operations yet what it's called black hat white hat. I'm telling you right now be super careful because when you turn over search engine optimization to somebody else. They. Can they can do some stuff that will destroy you and I hired Irish some virtual assistance And one virtual assistant. I hired phenomenal conversation, great interview, hire them, and then I'm giving them a password to log into my instigating them and they say, okay, we're hooking up with crowd fire this this and this and I go whoa. WHOA. WHOA. Crowd fire. What are you doing with crowd fire? This isn't an automation by that will go in and try to grow your instagram for you right. The algorithm instantly knows and it's Ok I'm good at they're just using it for scheduling posts fine but you don't you dare turn on any automations that are automatically liking or foams hoping harding comments or Never never by it's always going to be organic never by never by likes never by comments you can buy like literally a social media influencers. It's it's very easily. There's there's people we know inside of the industry that you know they're instagram pages twenty, thirty, thousand people in in like a couple months three, hundred, thousand come on. So you can tell, don't do that because that's toxic. It's doesn't. It's not a good indicator like real social media real marketing will give you a feedback of how successful you. Are People will watch your stuff people will call you for jobs. So don't fake it till you make it just keep trying new stopped keep throwing new stuff at the door until you make it. That's a big difference because if you do it wrong, it's GonNa hurt his cause Google Algorithm can sense that and they will sandbox your website that means they'll push you all the way down page sixty have google and it could be three or four years depending on the severity of what you do if you. Don't don't do or don't make it to the top. So here's a good tip to fight for a finish off with good website. Make sure you launch a blog pace blog page, and even if you just do quarterly right a well work route well written well, researched blog post article. On the topic of Your Business. Tagged entitled Keyword Rich to your specific. Audience and in your local city if you're a service business. And this perfect. There you throw in your course this year. where with the covid situation my gut feeling says, yes and pull the trigger but twenty grand in So it's Down but can around where would they find more information from you though we might do it virtually but Keith Kelly says dot com okay and it's literally right there on my website, the live events called Marketing Roi Perfect, and then we launched an amazing course on marketing If you just keep Kelly dot com forward slash seven steps or we're also doing text message marketing. Now you can get it by going on your phone composing a new text message and text. The word untrapped that U. N. T. R., A. P. P. E. D.. Two, three, one, nine, nine, six. And since we're on a podcast, our podcast just hit the top one hundred and Apple and entrepreneur category or it's It's the untracked podcast with Keith Kelly. Perfect. So all right. We talked about a lot of business and personal details on social media is Youtube. 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091 - Could You Beat Up A Kangaroo?

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091 - Could You Beat Up A Kangaroo?

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We haven't talked about what's in the show but yeah. Yeah. So. He decided not even. Neck. Go see his house before he bought it. Very happy. That the process, job communiqu. Guys well in your search it is not easy. I'm sure it will donate it and we're good awesome process I do hope that Tony finds a home quick. So that way we don't have to go through this every week as I go to look at it well now you know that you're never gonNA outbid them. Yeah. It's pretty clear. That is not a fight you. got them host dollars Bra. Not The case that is. Oh Bill is able to get kicked in the teeth but. On the show. Bill fiscally wants to play the sad sad on. This weekend. Pool. That I have to close can't take a joke but it'll be nice look at for a couple months no honestly it won't be because There is nothing more sad than like going to February and look at your back door and your pulls covered and it's filled with fucking snow and ray water leaves. It's one of the more sad thing. You. Know you'll be like fucking Tony Soprano staring at the DACHSHUND. Fall in. All. Right we allow. Paint you know it's it's in that process we gotta we gotta be we're GonNa be the man of the House now. No more argument yeah you're coming over. You. Pay The broadside ship you can sure pay my living room I. Even. When you when you painted Gumby, you gotta yet did use one of those cool like spray painters that they used to sell like billy mays us to sell. Yeah. So that was when you got on the side of ship, you'd just fucking hose it with the sprayer. That's pretty cool. Do you know how to use a brush oh? Yeah you did it all Tony. No job. I'm just I'm just GONNA. Say. You're going to. Commission you for a couple weekends what's a? Cover so I already have already commissioned proposition and to. Come did you ever do like a my ride jarred? Did you ever print? Pay A carnival cruise lines. Yeah. We did actually the cruise crucial jobs are usually the best cushy GIG. Long. Hours most money. Right. They'd come in full paint job and twelve days you're gonNA free cruise no, you weren't even allowed on. We got kicked off the booze and. Are Are. Guys pump the paint smokestacks. Allowed to go on to have lunch and dinner and Shit really. But then guys got caught booze and got. Another story last year. Pushing the to. Jumping into the water one time. He all the guy who grabbed the salmon. Being. So when the ships go out like the sorts of dry dock, the water comes in and then they let the boat out and then the water drains out of the water drains out. There's like salmon and fish and whatever. But. You went down there with his gumboots on garbage bag to couple big. Salmon. Hiked Hill on his way out and that was the end of his career. That's can sammy. Burian and a couple of Salmon. You believe a honestly I've been doing it for thirty years working with Aquaman. Though those fucking sandwich is GonNa flop to their death anyways. Have someone down there scoops them up when they come into anyways take them down in the market they ran that plays with an iron fist, Tony so wait what did. The baby. So with when you guys are done Peyton, you just let the and water back in obviously, and then there's fucking dead salmon just head back out to sea. Like. I don't know this doesn't normally happen on the water. It's all cyclical. Normally happened to me. I feel like we just found a gap in the market place where we can strike a deal with whoever your boss says we go in there and pick up all these fish when they come in the dry dock and we take him down to the market and we get top dollar we open up the greatest seafood restaurant Indian ever fucking seem maybe the drug was not an. We would potentially have to move to Canada but I know we're not doing that we're standing. Sounds like the guy stole the Sam got shot in the head talk. was working in strike a deal I mean, we're GONNA fucking cut. You gotta cut in the boss. Is Business one of was there any see lines or anything? Came and there was was the weirdest thing you've all this guy. So there's always. Running around the place don't tell me an ORCA winner. No never saw. Okay I think I. was just making sure. His are pretty beautiful. Seals are pretty cool. Anything else before we get into the Much documentary on the Barcelona soccer club. I'm not. Been So. Wonderful Really. Cool. We, get we get flipped. Came in here until I said hey look. I'm a little attacked. This me, wrong. I watched that Barcelona documentary. Thirty. That's why I brought up. It's time man it is a it. It's something to see a game there I got to see them play. Thank you like two thousand eleven I. Think it was the replying Athletico Madrid. Two thousand eleven went to the stadium. You didn't watch some fucking doc look I'm just saying I know a little bit here is the biggest pep. Guardiola. Barking gump easier off this morning about how I mean that guy could coach Dan football and he wanted to and I'm not talking about the football in Europe boys. What did you learn about Camus? I mean Cam nudes. It's sacred ground. You know they play. They play soccer the right way it's a beautiful game. The beautiful game. ticky tack. ticky tack because I. Don't want this podcast. We can't. I doubt our listeners give a fuck about bothell football Bartha. Shipyards. Bumpy shipyards is very interesting and and we found out a business in case. We need a business. The Baud flawed. I one guy says this guy have. Of You. Tony. This guy gets it in the flood every. Favorites, Whoa. No your to keep the compliments to yourself. Are you playing fucking favorites with the listeners? Secrets. I do not see name. So I have no idea if this guy's been in the podfather not before. Dude I do see that now cooper. But if you are female question because I don't even know if we have many of those. Most of the time getting automatically think. If. You send a question about little docs versus giant horses that's not getting in for sure and fighting those things three thousand or we could fight little kids like how many thirteen year olds can beat up brock in are there any people? Have really e Pau if you would have. Your Lifetime band you like had to have sex with your girlfriends body with your mom or your mom with your girlfriends minded that probably not gonNA get in. His hotdog sandwich probably knock it again. So just. Stop those ones for sure about sociological experiments involving what kind of family you know you're referencing that there too. All right that telling you all. Starting. There are few people do definitely could ask the best question the world they're getting left that. Fat. is in a good mood he really. All right. All right. Back to Dr Phil Back Raj. Don't discuss this yet. But what is the most over rated dessert food? I mean they're nice bad. All, you take that. Minds plain ice cream dude its own. What do you mean? Like Vanilla or chocolate ice cream. I, love. You if you can. If you take me to like a froyo place an ad, some fucking Oreos and cookie dough and Brown. Allow, all mode. Yeah. What about the mode? Well, then that's not ice cream at south. That's a nice slice of Apple Pie neck suit or some other sounds some other warm delicious street I mean, can you really lose with Detroit? Lake. If you're sitting there after dinner and someone brings you anything for dessert or you turn it down I, don't like. A plane. Brownie. And even more than that. Deserves a Brownie. Would work for both of us. situate I'd be happy with that. But if it's just the Brownie I, just need more than a allegri because like a painful brownies. Obviously. Awesome. Your restaurant acting desert and it's just a plain Brownie. It's the Hell I'm always also the desert. This isn't a desert, but they'll be like. You, you want a coffee with your dessert hammocks. I just had five old fashioned. No I Do Not WanNa fuck job. Over your ass up to get home. Driving. We got. We got news. Just. That was always I've never once ordered the coffee at fucking ten o'clock at night with the desert but. You also have a needed it yet. Yeah. Get certain age I think that becomes necessity in life where it's like Oh shit. It's ten PM and we're not asleep yet with the fuck we do and someone else in coffee that. Could be right I do love coffee after dinner if you're out and other people are drinking. Drinking what does that ever happen you pregnant Basket Hall. My would drive a lot of drink. Is there no uber we know mid has a problem with the we need to talk about your drinking problem. Your boss Booze how nothing? On just Goslin white claws rash as untrue every time it's like no drinking. you. Next thing I know copies drinking off forty two ounce Whitecliffe. Marlboro reds. Back. Very. Slow by friends start. His Fortune Cookie dessert no stinks that's a fortunate is one I will stand with you. That stinks does does But that's not sort now. Okay. Part of the fucking Chinese for their experience. Which? We need to take field trips here. She still actually does a buffet. Guys now I think pretty much every. Variety is dead now well then. I guess, well, let's be clear. That's not because they weren't delicious. It's not because they weren't fucking hack to the game. When they could be open one, thousand percent DAX. Who fucking tonight? WHO's fucking tonight? Oh, you are. Got It. And if you are, you might WanNa take a little Rome with you. Every was last longer bed becoming backwards from one hundred singing Mary had a little lamb doesn't always work. That's why the folks Roman and online men's health company are changing the game with Roman swipes the secret to longer. Better Sag. Grown swipes. 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Tony, you don't have to fuck and say this company we know you made this God damn beer I would not drink us I. Know You have eight Packs Face. I would say you know for a fact but I don't know if you I haven't had beer in. Years through fair enough years. Only thing that's going to these vases liquor or Glasgow until Buffalo and cut waters. Listen necessity is the mother of invention, Tony and we know you can't and you're not allowed to eat wings in bed anymore a number of the next logical solution. Bathroom. I mean, this is probably tastes like. He's right. At Buffalo Wings. Flavored beer tastes like fucking shit though. Needs Medicine. Wine. Those wings are that we're looking at a picture. Sorry for the pod of you to look at the same pressure that we're looking at. You can watch us on the Youtube. Deepak maps show dot com. Sorry. The Max youtubecom slash. The. Link is in the two leagues in twitter bio for at the pod BMI. Also want to get into this folder. You just send like I was talking about earlier. DM At the POD BMI on twitter instagram. And ask if you drink this because he is a booze. Take this I would honestly probably try it. I'd have one good for you. Yeah. But if you liked it, would you go Away to saucy too which is. Super Good I love Saas Wings do you when you drink do you like drink stuff you enjoy the taste or you just drink and just to get fucked up? I'm going to be honest if it's a weekend, I am just drinking to get fucked. He drank those frozen. Margaritas. They were like ninety percent booze. Judge here young as I was just curious if you drink it for maybe bypass. At this point a little bit of both there. That's yeah. But that's the answer. I was just wondering where he's at. Was, his development, and. Don't really like beer or I'm starting your now actually. So I'm starting to get into the beer fame. His as we're doing shots of vladi which has been fucking Turpentine. He gets. Every region has its the. Plastic your plastic bottle vodka Tuba Dubar. Bottom of the Shell La. fucking four, ninety, five. Sweet. Next Furniture Nell remover. Interesting here. Her Dexter is returning to showtime for a ten. Episode Limited Series Of Star Michael C Hall Coming Fall Twenty. Twenty. One. Here's the issue with me. Stopped watching four episodes in the last season because I heard it was the last season was dog shit. So I said, I don't WANNA I don't WanNa ruin the show. off of a five episodes when I enjoyed the rest of the show Oh see. Well, I haven't thought it's been worth Fox and fourth. What was less? He's five. Like seven or eight Oh maybe maybe maybe I have a lot more to watch than I thought. I was hoping they would They could bring Rita back in killer again. I'm with you there. Spoiler alert girlfriend or NYNEX yeah. They get I can't even remember she's. A Fan what's her name would have been good looking if shouldn't I like the show but like you I stopped watching around like season five. Dexter was eight seasons. I. Get. stunk. After. After Chattanooga she died after trinity was downhill. deb was quite a bit the. If. You didn't finish the last season. You missed some of the last season should not have happened if this if this is their their Mulligan at the last season, then I'm all for. Race it history. That's what I'm guessing because the guy who's doing it is the guy who's the show runner for the first four, seasons. So I think they're trying to return him to form I. Really Haven't seen Michael C hall since Dexter if we're being honest. Off Those checks he also had cancer I mean he beat it during. Say That people were coasting in terms out some something. Every single time you walk right into. His wife next. The YOU WANNA. Talk about a kid show that's coming out big sky. Don't. ABC Salt. I listen it has all the makings. They watched outlet while I. I'll people look. We can that's a cornea version of it and by that I mean it's it's A gulbis. Got Phillipi. In it I love. Even me the trailer was like I can't do. It can't bad on that is saying something. I see he sent me the. The show yesterday as you would like this A. Like I thought he was trying to take a shot of me because I've seen the previews and stuff like that. It did perk my interest a little bit and then like trailer trailer Makarius inaugurate. No really suck. Great today. ABC Show. What are you GonNa? What are you GonNa do it was on USA TNT. Him. That girl had curly hair is. One of Rizzoli. Excel where they birth female. Was it a female buddy cop. So yes, it was new it. Couple Buddy. Give me a name that work and I'm sure I can come up with what the and show. This. Is Mr Alex. Baker. What are they going to bring back the mental I? Didn't watch the mental list. have never seen a show that was advertised more Patrick j was actually pretty good. This is gonNA sound like a pattern. The female actress kind of. Your. Tone is the slippery slope. You want to take some shots talking rebel Wilson next. I enjoy her. Turn. On the show I'm sorr-. No love that Joe good still good because probably check it out school. Barsha DOT. Yes. Mr Al Baker let's that is because we were talking about Australian ranch yesterday because i. Know you never eucalyptus by the way because I. Don't know Ustralian ranch is known as a station. Down onto the Dacian or is this Guy Australia? Are just taking blind word for you. I mean. Do any research, the guy. The booms brothers, booze pros we need to know. There is it's not a video don't get your hopes on. There is a pretty funny boobs brother thing coming in the okay. Well, if you guys listen we need to know isn't are showing ranch confirmed a station. Yeah. And then and are you guys still fucking and then film yourself on that station like I don't know like fucking shoot Pumpkin or something yeah. That's good Matt. How we should a fucking Pumpkin Halloween. Or? On June thirty first. Yeah. 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It's a good show Diego Williams is on it is. Going right now. It's an all star cast relief. Yeah. I, believe. We're way past seasoning I, Dunno I put it on the other day because you guys were speaking. So highly of it is definitely cool. Show is just survivor, but they doesn't suck. Survivor no, no. I mean like their living conditions. Season twenty two. All right. Good Year for All Star? Yeah? Any BIG NAMES Jan No, they got her what I know. They've been trying to get it for. Shift she does that every single sees. I. Believe I stopped watching after eleven. Get. To. Shut up. Boys it's all about convenience. And you know co water. Bring real alcohol drinks with you into the real world with our award winning Cain Cut. These are not all these weird sales. You see everywhere right now where you don't know if you're drinking rubbing alcohol what Ono, they're actually vodka sodas. and. Tonics. They even have bloody Marys. Bloody after our winning. Let me tell you they were lifesaver. 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I'm going closer spot every CBS but I'm not gonNA fucking time driving up and down aisles I will do a quick you look up in your car's highs you came go to see if there's a spot up there and if you can't see one, then you just find the first spot I mean what's the walking distance twenty five yards Yeah especially when you do the cool thing on the back of the car where you job for a couple of steps in the jump on the bar and you kind of do a wheel make sure relief. Could flip. It is nice to walk a little bit without before putting the Mascot, now that you've got to put it on. and. Honest things do change a little bit as the temperature drops. Yeah. True because. Winter unless I'm like going out like we're going to a bar or something I feel like I am never properly equipped with the correct coat. Yeah I mean. Lean, either I don't even know if I have because. They're tough. You know what? I was always jealousy you live in New York man sorry. You guys always get to show off your cocoa. I have a very, very strong coke game. I'm hoping to break it out I'm excited that the fall weather is rolling in because the Cardigan. Please, we're we're rolling doesn't help now Tony that most of our lives. You and I were conditioned to not wear a coat because we're walking to the bar. The only place we went and he didn't WanNa have. On, at the bar and it would smell like smoke with an or eight hundred degrees. A PICO in the are. You couldn't put it anywhere. We tied around your waist. Carrying peacoat around a big pain in the. Brutal. So what you did was you just went to the bar within a two to three block radius and you you want she walked pretty quickly. Bit going to the bar with a coat is is a fucking pain in the ASS. Aside from the fact that when and it's GONNA hot nine times out of ten. You're going to either forget it get stolen. Have for gun have units try and befriend the bartender and see if they'll put it behind the bar. If there's not like a designated like coat rack should be more co checks not that I would. Use It. I would use it and he's been more coach checks. I'll say it. But then you get to trust at the guy runs coach checkers comeback. Love with that in that. KOVAK. To at a bar I've seen risk. Kodak. Hooks. In a lot of bars do have hooks underneath the bar with. Nice easy. Way To forget though Oh. Yeah for sure. You know what kind of joint you're walking into? I think on a cold a cold night. I know find maybe one bar to stick to. This lessens the chance of having to carry the cloud. As we got older. We did that quite a bit. Yeah I. Get bored. Take A fucking unexpected turn. Right. Company. Next Billy interruptions here real Paul. What are we got? Anyone else eat their haircut or or is he good to go? I don't even know we're all set thanks bill. Thanks Bill. Thanks. Thanks Bill. This comes from DPKQ ninety four. Next. Is. comes. 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I was fucking unbelievable and you know what have I want to see the second time I didn't wait for fuck and forty five minutes. Next. Though, this is from the booby brothers. I'm. Oh Jeez deserve that. It's a picture of this this woman and they sent me the articles well, apparently, this woman in Persia the nineteen hundreds was the peak of what a Persian woman like what the Persian men desired. Wrestling boots and the comment from the booby brothers was. Might be hot in one thousand nine hundred Persia. because she does look just like. I mean that is Ito in address. I. Think we've found. Scroll down a little bit tree trunks this. This lady start in the Persian football league. Hell of a knees. I didn't do any more research than just the article headline, but like she can throw a fastball thirty miles an hour. Pay Your bottom half and Roger. Clemens. Hit fifty five in the major leagues. Here's a question for you. All right. 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You receipt. or any of us, but I think I. Think those are the two because I have a fucking beard and anyone who's fucking overweight with a beard get set in. I mean. That's the truth voice. Dulles. As. Voice nobody listen. Do we think who we think is the most. Probably you Tony. Z. Z to we see more people send stuff in Zt. I'm constantly on the lookout for fake seats wasn't measure eat on the. Yeah I. think that was just just blew fucking picks All. Right. It's coming your way events here I'm GonNa, fucking send it your way. Let's do do next in the pod bottom. We'll get to that later. Do, you want to video you want to continue to go whatever you want whatever's easier for you back. Let's. Let's go. Let's let's video in here. Booth. They killing snakes. Tony is an ill. For. Think Python or something. I mean this is a video of. Cry Thought Anaconda the movie was yeah was fucking. Like was movie magic. That's only I could see the thing is. That's the biggest thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Falcons. Servant. You say it's a servant to surfin serpent. What's it called? Priests, Dude what do you think it's called but Surfeit Sir I said that, right? Right. Is fucking you? Obviously, it's surfing because it's in water. It's surfing. Out of the water knowing the surface like that exist is enough to make me want WanNa get in Oregon these. Grabbing it by the tail. Back in the water the next day like we go. Oh, you kidding me do. This thing eight these guys in their entire village not too long after this. Insert country foot that's a forty foot Anaconda. Things fucking. Huge. It looks like you've got a bellyful. Data's body out of the boat. Brochure. and. They were trying to hold its tail so they could cut its stomach open and try to save its buddy. I got is for you. It's massive probably not going to happen that is probably not going to happen. Wow. Man. That's a big snake the mighty surfing the mighty. 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Nikkei's with the kangaroo with no weapons and see what happened. Do I'll fight it now and I think I will win I. Don't think so I'm not going in there scared. All right Bro I'm sure this is something we can. All right at this point we. Dear I because I think that'll get you to. Those mother fuckers. Those voters that lesson. You put antlers on a kangaroo. Our creating higher like what is this? You're done pal. Okay. This is nature. This isn't fucking you and your drastic genome mixing shackle. It'd be I'm the Asia unload. Tiny. Youtube we appreciate you for watching can't. Thank you enough to say goodbye to you now because we're going to say play copyrighted music. And you doesn't like that because they don't like small businesses apparently, but we love them. Yeah because it would be big businesses coming after which. Is what happened or got calling I guess yeah one thousand percent. 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 229: How much should a lead cost?

Christoph Trappe: Business Storytelling Podcast

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229: How much should a lead cost?

"This is the business storytelling podcast with Christopher tra- available on Google spotify apple and Dora and other podcast channels want to play it on your iphone. Just ask Siri to play the KRISTOF trap business storytelling podcast also available on Alexa. Here's Kristoff today's episode. Hey Business Storytellers Kristoff, trap, your host, and author of content performance culture. Thanks for joining me for another episode going strong here still putting out for a week. Especially, I'm very very surprised an interesting to see that the weekend episodes you guys were really listening to them. So I'd like to know who are the people listening to shows at four am in the morning on a Sunday maybe Europeans I don't I don't know four am my time but either way appreciate you listening and today's topic is a topic we haven't covered at all. On this show and we'll we want to talk about cost per acquisition. How do you come up with that? What is it? Why does it matter all those kind of things that are of interest to you. So today's guest I'm joined by Casey, Stanton his the founder of CMO, x.? Fractional chief marketing officers you can connect with him on that website CMO x Dot Co. so O or KC Stanton Dot, com Casey how's it going today? Thanks for joining us. It's going. Well, thank you so much for having me. And always glad to have guests on like you did not reach out to me reached out to you. I heard you talk about part of this topic somewhere else I don't know those on twitter or somebody else's podcast I think it may have been somebody else's podcast. Just. On the on the fly I guess you guys mentioned it. So I always love finding new guests that way when I hear them talk about topics that I think the listeners here like to hear about. So when we talk about cost per acquisition. Kind of give us a definition of what does it mean and how do we? How should we think about it? So I think customer acquisition is It can be as simple as the cost it is to acquire a customer or. Like. The simple definition, which is kind of like Duh but really there's there's more detail to it and cost acquisition needs to include things like the cost for the media. So if you're using Google ads, would it cost for that but if you're if you're really thinking, you're also going to throw in there the cost for the. Google ads manager the person who's actually doing the work for you. You want factor that, and because that's definitely a cost right without them, you wouldn't have a live Google ad campaign. So it's figuring out all of the aunts Larry costs. That are related to the acquisition of a customer and dividing it out and having a target number and having a target CPA or cost. Is Helpful when you brainstorm. What marketing campaigns to run and also it's required free to report on it. And what I say to brainstorm the marketing campaigns that you're going to run I find this to be really interesting. You know marketers are occasionally tasked with questions like. Get us more customers. How would you get more customers and you're like Oh man I I need so much more data to be able to tell you that. And I think of like a chef if you say to a chef dinner. They're going to be like man that's really hard. But if you say, Hey, chef I've got one fillet of sea. Bass I've got some muscles I've got a bottle of red wine and all the typical spices in a couple lemmens. Can you make dinner? Their answer would be absolutely and they'd probably make something. Amazing. Now, when you say that to a chef, you're giving them guardrails or something that confines their ability to create the right answer, and that allows for creativity. So, when I think as a marketer, when we all the problem of, let's say, drive more customers or drive more leads, we need to do that with some clear guardrails and one great one is a CPA when you know what the acceptable cost per acquisition is to, let's say break even. Then, you can be creative. Does that make sense Make sense to me, and now of course, I'm hungry even though I'm not a wine guy. Can we substitute that for a Beer Perfect. Sounds Great. Thank you. So I'm already negotiating with you. So, how do we? So the cost of everybody involved? So I saw a couple of things that came to my mind. First of all, I mean that is a high CPA, right? Because if you have a team of people especially when you get started or let's say even if you just have one person, i. mean your CPA is going to be higher than it might be in year two, for example. So maybe that's something we can talk about, and then the other thing that came to my mind is when you count all that it, I'm thinking about all the inefficiencies marketers have to deal with. Right. Let's be in six hours of meetings because the bosses want to have meetings or somebody sent me. So it's not just pick on the bosses here. and. Then, I got two hours to do my work unless they work on the couch at home tonight. So. How do you? How do you maneuver those two things? It's a good question so There's two costs I think in marketing. Sunk cost of the headcount or the bench. Platforms and things like that. This is a cost that you're going to have, and then there's the cost for the ongoing acquisition. Most most companies that I talked to or a fractional talked to those say stuff like, yeah we've got a budget of ten thousand dollars a month for marketing or fifty thousand dollars a month for marketing. Which is Always I think a little misguided I want to hear them say is we've got X. amount of cash to spend to figure out the right answer, and then we're happy spending twelve percent of revenue on acquisition moving forward. And that allows for some. Flexibility in the acquisition channels, right like you have to dump some cash to go figure out how to acquire the person you know the customers are the leads or whatever and. I think for that reason, it's it's just important to say, okay, we have the cost of the overhead. Which is going to be your marketing technician or your marketing director or your marketing coordinator whoever this person, the tactical person who's doing the work. And then maybe you have an external vendor that you're using. Google at specialist in, you might take that in as like an additional cost but you know, hey, we're gonNA take ten hours a week of our marketing talents time to figure this problem out. That's the sunk cost. But. On top of that, we have an additional budget which is going to be five hundred dollars a week in pay. That's. Five thousand dollars a week and paid outs and you can start doing some math on that kind of identified the CPA. But I really encourage the listeners here to kind of bifurcated your budgets to sunk cost or like a a fund that your testing with the one that you're scaling with. It makes no sense to have a limited fund. To try to scale with in a you should have an unlimited fund to try to scale with once you have something that's proven and for every dollar they spend on marketing you know if you're able to produce three or four or five dollars. It really doesn't make sense to be limited on what you can spend. You should be unlimited right and that's at the percentage of revenue. So of course, once growing that that math makes sense to me but home when you're not when early on right, how long does it take for the ramp up I? Mean I'm thinking about content marketing, tell people or at least six month right to build a brand to to even get out there and that used to be. When we were in the organic era when it was much easier to get in front of people without having to pay anything or today you gotta run ask to get in front of people and especially if you don't have an email list. So. So what's like the? The time how how long will you need to even get it set up and get going? It's a good question and it really depends on the marketing tactic that you're using. So I love Seo and I think Seo's a very intelligent strategy for a business. But how do you know the right keywords Frisco? Well, you got to go get A. Subscription to refs are Mas and then you've got to put together a plan maybe you're gonNA run some Google ads I that's GonNa take a while maybe need three months of testing before you even start your Seo Campaign and then you've got to build out your pillar pages and then your satellite content pages. Then you've got to attract back links I mean it's a lofty long-term process which if you're going to do it right it's GonNa, take you a couple of years. On, the flip side, you can get a Google ad campaign for the search network life you know by the end of the PODCAST, those are easy to do. You can get a highly optimized campaign. No, that's GonNa take a while but you know you can start snagging top traffic searches pretty quickly. So it really depends on the traffic source that you're using. I think one thing that marketers tend to. Get wrong is that they're looking for ways to sell the products that exist instead of looking for high margin products I that they can sell. So. They're saying, okay client or okay boss or okay partner. Yeah. Let's just sell the stuff we've always been selling but in doing that, you know there's a limited margin in that business could only be successful through referrals and SEO and not through paid traffic. So look at other ways to sell. I say sell because marketing is salesmanship multiplied I like that as a definition, no marketing isn't raising awareness or you know brand affinity or any of that marketing is. salesmanship multiplied. So the ability to sell through multiplication, it's like I can go door to door and sell vacuum cleaners or I can run a full page ad in the New York Times in reach. Whatever it is I think over a million households. So that's that's what marketing is right. It's multiplication so I see the marketer's job is to sell so I encourage the marketer to sell. In ways that give them leverage so an example is A. High Margin. Offering. So typically awkward will now sell software plus some consulting time on top of it, and that's the offer that you go out with. So instead of just straight SAS SAS plus support and that support in charge a premium for it, and when he said that there's just a lot more margin as a result. So that's one idea. Another idea is to sell a one too many. I think this is also underutilized because marketers. You know we think how do we get in front of someone who has intent? Well how do we work with the sales team to get them high qualified leads in like a B. Two B. Space To, get them to make sales that are much bigger. So for example, I could go door to door and sell vacuum cleaner or I could go to a HOA and sell vacuum cleaners to the whole Hoa and it might be one salesa compensation for each and one potential selling one vacuum cleaner and the other one to two hundred units. So look as a marketer for ways to increase your leverage and sell upstream same amount of labor maybe but with a higher potential for reward. In so when you talk about marketing, it's not about. Brain. Awareness. Some of those things talk about. So how do people know about you if they're not aware of your brand, how do you sell to them if they don't know you so my belief like if you look at a speedometer right and like zero is branding and one hundred on this. is like a aggressive infomercial I think of myself right him up and seventy mark. Okay, I'm not like an aggressive billy mays. Slap Chop. infomercials. But also, I don't think that the brand is going to do much on its own I. think a brand builds trust especially for additional sales or especially if it's a long term sales process. But I think too many businesses get stuck in the perfection of branding instead of generating sales. So even with my company I started with a pretty simple branding and I got a friend to make our first logo and it was fine. I wasn't thrilled by it by any means. It was just fine and then got a proper designer to make our new logo once we had enough capital in the business. And building the branding out came as the result of having capital. I think that branding is. Is An expense that should be invested in. Once there's capital to invest, and that requires the marketer again to have guardrails and say, okay, you don't have brand to work with. So what are you going to do the sales? How are you going to kind of muscle your way through this to get? To get cash the door. And you don't have to rely on brand you can rely on social proof I. Always think of Gary Benson Vanga's approach of the VENGA persuasion equation and how he talks about overwhelming social proof and now he would be in direct mail. He would beat packages kind of simply by doubling the amount of social proof. So, it's not about the brand behind it although that's helpful. I'm not going to say that it's not helpful man I would rather have two pages of proof before I had some Nice logo that had a trademark on it. It's interesting to so first of all perfection don't even get me going if if I was always going for perfection at get anything done just coughed by mistake, right? We're not going to edit it out. Casey. Because nobody cares honestly unless I do it every five seconds. Perfection but it's interesting to like your explanation. I didn't even think about that as the brand like obviously there's a logo. In those kind of things, but I'm also thinking about. HOW DO PEOPLE Think about the brain do what do they know about it right are they is it trustworthy doesn't appear trustworthy and I think most of those info commercials. Don't. Show him to me. I don't WanNa Watch them serving do. They do why? Why do they work? I heard once that a lot of that infomercial staff like the snuggie. and. These other devices are actually sold to people with. Disabilities and that's the market and we think is people that are like fully abled that Oh i WanNa snuggie right I want road that I can put on front ways but really that's for someone who might have limited range of motion. So they're selling these things. To people these devices are this apparel or whatever to people who? Have a problem and it's a significant problem and they're watching TV and they have a behavior of buying like that before and you know. The rest of us just think like, oh. That's kind of funny. I'M GONNA get my whole family snuggie for like A. Christmas photo shoot. But I think that the people that are buying it have pain and then the secondary market is people who think it's kind of silly and funny. Interesting, and of course, you know what works. It's always kind of interesting. Some people buy another people. They're not interested when you mentioned Seo the one thing that came to my mind we had Jessica. Foster on the show and she talked about writing for Seo and the thing that I find heart with SEO is. She said something about the terms you're trying to rank for let's say there between a hundred and five hundred servers searches a month and of course the. That takes longer right and then second of all That's not that many more clicks over to my website right? Even if I get a fourth of those or half of those. So. Certainly that's a long term project. How about budgets? I mean you mentioned it sounds like it is helpful when people tell you. If people are open with you, right I mean I've gone into relationships and people just say, well, show me a proposal. What will you do and then I don't know I guess they pick the cheapest. But it is helpful when you have that open discussion right and it's not just a commodity this discussion on how to move forward. With the budget. In a typically like I instruct our fractional CMO'S And whenever I work if fractional. CMO. Take I'll take businesses at their word. They say, Hey, this is what I want and this is the budget and say, okay. Let me work with that for thirty days. Let me see if that's possible. So you give me the direction that you want, and then I'll come back and tell you where you're wrong or where this is not gonna work. You know I'm not GonNa just say okay you're right and I'm GonNa make this happen because it might be impossible. You know working with a company, they want to attract a customer who has an average lifetime value of about sixty dollars. And they have an acceptable cost. Of. Okay. Where are you going to get an acquisition for thirty bucks and that's an acquisition that's paid out over the course of two years. Man That's really tough. Right, like We're talking. Like, about a dollar, a month in profit is a dollar. A month is what I have to get a customer over the course twenty four months very difficult to do. So we started that campaign and the project to solve it and long story short we had to come up with. Inexpensive high leverage ways to solve the problem where we have a little less control than I'd like, but also hitting our numbers. More control is things like Google ads, but with Google ads comes the bidding wars. And it's difficult to be profitable on a lot of Google ads unless. You have a really sharp back end. And as a marketer, we kinda have to straddle that line between marketing obviously in product. You know we can understand uniquely what the market will bear for a product. So we're working. Someone listening to this is working with the client or you know their company or Their team and They're trying to sell a single widget and you say, yeah, that widget is good but we should sell this other thing too. We should change the product a little bit for this unique market because I think we'll get a better product market fit or whatever. and. It's it's the responsibility of the marketer. So the kind of go back to the notion of like how does budget fit into all of this? It's identifying what the market will bear who the buyers are and how to get in front of them, and then to get creative you know it's really easy right now to get influencers it's like really influencers are struggling think generally I think that it looks like a glamorous lifestyle and I would say gross majority. Probably more than ninety, ninety, five percent of influencers like don't make enough to cover rent. So these people are struggling and putting together a nice deal and pay them cash for them to do a video review, and then you boosting that video review. That's what it's about. Not Not thinking that you'll get an influence or to do A. A. Promotion and get a windfall of sales. You know that that's just not happening right now but you can certainly take an influencers. Review of your product, and then you as the marketer go and push video views on youtube and facebook and be able to drive that to the target audience. And I actually think a lot of people don't think about that. Casey at all day. It's a very silo to prove approach. Right? Here's the influence where you reach out and say, Hey, can you promote this? Do whatever you you're doing? And the other thing that I ran across recently and I blog about it over authentic storytelling dot net, and this is not a influence of relationship per se. But I was on Nick West regards on brand podcast and then I was Jason Falls. Jason False show at the time, and so then they always write articles about the podcasts rights and did we talk about my book content performance culture and when you search for content performance culture, I'm not sure if it's still the case but they're pages show up really high, right so it's interesting because in my opinion, them showing up high actually give gives credibility to my book, which is right above it. Right you can buy it and now they're showing up I mean that's A. I don't know maybe if people are not. People think about influence our relations, Moore's silo as opposed to that. Overall approach kind of what you mentioned that what I experienced. In with an approach though it's a great point you know. It's not about that one splash that you had on the podcast. It's that now the first page of Google for the keyword term in your situation a book. Is, just overwhelming. That's all we WANNA. Do we want to make it? Coming. You know when I look at Amazon for a product to purchase, I, look for overwhelming reviews. Amazon's frustrating because I don't know if I can ever trust the reviews. But it. Still what I look for in I just went and got eyedrops today and I was standing at CVS and I was like, what do I get? I just googled best eyedrops. Want, we're willing proof that these are good eyedrops I dunno propylene glycol is something I want to put my not Trent turns out it is. So. I think a lot of people default to Google telling them what the right answer is. And if you can dominate the search engines and that's a big win and you could also generate repeatable assets that you continue to use. So in the situation, a video testimonial. And or a video review honest video review it doesn't take much to reach out. You've got a physical product. Let's protein powder. You can go reach out to twenty-five fitness instagram accounts. Have them review it five aren't going to like the flavor five. We're GONNA have a crappy reviews, then five or going to be great. And you'll take the five great ones and you'll run those and ads in your set in order to cost you. Product plus one hundred bucks ahead to twenty, five, hundred bucks, and now you have five high quality testimonials I mean it's it's Kinda hard to beat. Yeah absolutely I think the one time splash thing I I think that comes still from the publishing world or the. Printed things and they went out the door and it wasn't so long living right the weather's too long living and you know I, I mean, I grew up as a journalist write my article went out the door in. It's now done right? The printed paper is done and what's interesting too. So we're recording this is currently scheduled to be episode to twenty four and we have Two hundred three episodes published in episode one, seventy, nine over the weekend before we record this. All of a sudden had seven thousand downloads. You know. Twenty twenty. Almost thirty episodes ago. Right. So what happened I know exactly what happened? What happened is it was about instagram wheels and something all of the sudden started taking off when it comes to instagram reels and that episode was kind of answering that question not exactly because it wasn't a problem then when I recorded but it kind of touched on it. Right. So my point is back in the day I would've been like, hey, how's yesterday's episode House today's episode but people are listening to these things. Now you know all the time and they get recommended so we're talking about. Cost per acquisition. If there's another episode for another podcast that talks about a similar topic, let's say even if you were guests on another episode, this episode might show up as recommended next listen right even though it may publish six months earlier. So it's it's very interesting how that has shifted over time. So I. I think to that point to apple is doing a lot right now to invest in podcasts, they bought a Like. A suggestion engine and they're rolling that into the new apple podcast platform. You can search now apple podcasts for terms like cost acquisition in. You'll be able to find this episode apple is listening to, and like you know a is listening to in transcribing indexing. What podcast episode about saying that's absolutely a good point. It's so interesting how it has evolved because asked five years ago case I would have said every podcast needs to be transcribed and I think that's that's kind of changing already. Right, there some of this cost acquisition position math can get complex though. How do you make it simpler or is it just a complex thing? It certainly can get complex you're right Again it's unique to the to the company into the offering. I think if it's too complex. It's tough. So quick story is I worked on a project a few years ago I don't know maybe eight years ago, and there was this number that we had, which was called dollars per lead DP l., and that was the value of each lead that came in on average and we built the whole business on that. Come to find out that it was a completely made up number like it was multiplied by some irrelevant constant that. Just. It was wrong and we figure that out. We realize like for like six months, we'd built a a marketing campaign on a number didn't work. But despite it being wrong, it was close. In close could mean the difference of being. Profitable or not. So I'm not encouraging you to not have good numbers, but you can run like a pretty simple test. In like there's like this. Is like these cavemen tests right I think. Donald Miller has a caveman test around branding but I think there's like some pretty basic test around in the like marketing numbers. Does this make sense like can i? Just do some basic multiplication and figure this out does this does this checkout you know similarly like if I look at a promotion if I close my eyes opening and closing Mcginn does it passed the blink test join know with the promotion is is reasonably clear without really reading it what this is about. So you can do that with your CPA. Your cost per acquisition and I think that you should put more time and effort into it, and maybe you're going to have to pull something like wicked reports or some other in a better analytics than maybe google. Analytics, you might have to go off line, do like an excel sheet and figured out but just like have a target, know what it is know what it is and know that it'll change over the course of the next month. But you know like you have a target that you're aging for, and as long as you're close, you're probably on the right track. I think it's really easy to get caught up in like the perfection or the absolute specificity of things at the cost of figuring out the right marketing approach testing. So, I'd rather know that the acceptable CPA's twenty five bucks. And have it really be you know? Twenty to thirty and get campaigns out and live and see what I can do versus spending an extra two months. We're really dialing and that number only to find out that it's twenty two and a half dollars. You know I'm laughing because I remember when Casey chess higher was on the show, we're talking about lead scoring. Each other he he is. Awesome. And he says, you know I've been in meetings where people argue over whether they should be given eight eight points for that or ten. He was what? What a waste time for anybody's meeting plus today of course, that's almost automated. Couture meetings for a second. If you just take a head count of people in a meeting in multiple by their hourly rate. I saw a tweet. I don't know who to job, but it was something like. A low level person in an organization or like a mid level person has to run up the chain of command for one hundred dollar budget to buy books for personal development right. Finance to agree to this or whatever. But that same person can host a thirty or sixty minute long call with five top people that has like a an hourly cost of, let's say a thousand dollars. How how we abuse meetings in people's time and then we penny pinch things that help people develop here. You know why that is though it's because. The hundred dollars feels like real money. And the people are already there. Right. So that's why people I think. That's why people do it but I do that all the time case when I go into a meeting or I'm. If I'm working with somebody and there's a bunch of people in the Room I. Say. This is an expensive meeting. I'll try to make it worth your while or something like bats. And but but a lot of people don't like that right because I just pointed out something. That's very uncomfortable. First of all now, everybody's thinking about how much does everybody make? And then second of all right they is it really worth having meeting for this could have had just been slack message when you talk about the CPA though I mean, are we talking about trying to figure out exactly the salary of the people involved? How does that? How do you know who does that I mean? I we talking about salary transparency now or is it just like a flat fee that we we tie into the cost per acquisition? So I think this if you're gonNA have that level of granularity and specificity and you are going to include the overhead of the marketer. And the staff that's going to be running it. Yeah I think there has to be some transparency in what people are paid, and maybe that's not appropriate for the marketer to have it, and maybe this number has to come from finance in finance historic with HR to figure it out. There could be a departmental hourly rate averaged that that you're given. So while the marketing coordinator might be at seventy, the director might be at one hundred and the CMO might be at one, hundred, seventy, five, you average that out and it's one hundred dollars an hour for anyone's time. There's some shortcuts there that don't require excessive. Number crunching just to give you a target and again that's what you want to target and you're going to run it for a while and then you're going to stop and do a review. You know there's always post mortems after something goes wrong when something goes right people rarely like. figure out what went right you don't. Have a like an interim kind of meeting to say, okay what are we doing? What's working? Wise it working hypothesis. As marketers would joke that we have this laboratory tests stuff. But is anyone actually recording hypotheses? So your hypothesis is okay. Are acceptable cost per acquisition is one hundred dollars. So then you run some campaigns to figure out if you can drive and customers with that, and then how do you review that? What's your cadence? Where do you write these hypotheses? Where do you write what you found based on your hypothesis and your test? Are you actually reviewing that to get better and get smarter or reasonably just like doing tests without really looking at the results. So do you think so hypothesis I mean I still remember sometimes even doesn't feel very good when I even think about it. But depending on where you are or what organization you're in right I mean a hypothesis is kind of like A. Bad idea theoretically right or could be really good one. But I mean. We are all taught right we're looking we're looking for the right answer in the most fastest way. Possible. That's basically what school is about in. Of course, my my mentor former media company's CEO Chuck Peters talked about that length but. At the end of the day in might not be the right thing to do. Right. It might not be the thing that worked. So I can see why that's hard for people to do it. Right. We're just want to like who doesn't want to be right, but we do have to test things. But there has to be psychological safety in the organization I. Mean That's the catch here. All right. So if if one of our fractional CMO's or One of things that we encourage is for them to then hire a marketing technician someone who's like. Sending emails and doing the Labor. If that person takes a risk in the wrong. The first thing you do is you congratulate them. Like it's a good thing. Hopefully they took a risk and it was a limited risk because you encourage them to take small risks. You know it's foolish if they go and blow ten grand on a single media by that was never even tested beforehand, which has happened But on the other hand, if they're like I had this wild idea, I had some extra time on Friday. Put a Google ad campaign I ran it over the weekend. For these keywords to this landing page and it didn't work. To cool. Great. Thanks for doing that. It's limited test. Would we spend two hundred bucks? Great. No big deal. Let's put that as something that we tested and it didn't work. Why don't you think it worked? Can it work you know? It's like if you run a marketing campaign in your acceptable requisition, again is one hundred bucks and you drive people in one hundred and twenty to me. That's not a failure to me. That's just twenty percent over. So how do you fix that? Too, little optimization on. The keywords that you're using getting rid of the crappy keywords if you're doing. Or getting your landing page to convert just marginally better or a better follow of email sequence release to convert to customers whatever the thing is that solvable. So as marketers have to look at that data and we have to like. We have to truly be scientists. We can't just come up with a creative idea, which is like you know arguably the most fun part marketing I think he's just like being creative, but creativity alone doesn't get you any result C. have to do the hard work of testing reviewing. ITERATING. He absolutely and you know I mean empower people, right? That's I think. That's a whole `nother level of leadership and we we certainly have people on the show that talked about that patty shade. Michael Brenner even with his book mean people suck and and others Casey. From you on this topic, really really appreciated do other than the links that I mentioned earlier any other places where people should connect with you? Yes. Oh, actually right now, if you don't mind, we're looking for three marketers who have at least three years of experience working with clients who want to ascend to the role of fractional chief marketing officer. It's lot like the role of CMO except that doesn't take the average of seventeen years to get to, and it gives you the same flexibility as a marketing consultant without the revolving door of marketing consulting which I know you know it's like always prospecting always servicing always wrapping up. So the fractional CMO is a longer term role but it you the freedom and flexibility and it gives you that CMO level pay. So we're looking for three marketers with at least three years of experience and if you WANNA learn more have a little short presentation at C. M. O. X. DOT CO slash invite. So there there's an invitation for anyone who's interested. You can watch it, and if you want to book a time with me at the end of that video there's a link. Fantastic. Thanks for sharing that and if you are sending in your name. On your name in the hat. Good luck becoming a fractional CMO Casey. Thanks for joining US really appreciate it. Thanks for sharing your insights. Christoph appreciate it. Thanks everyone for listening until next time. Move your content from happening to performing. That's what everybody wants nowadays, and content and content marketing and marketing all those related fields. Check out my new book content performance culture the number one new release in the public relations category on Amazon. Dot Com, when it came out, I hope you take a look it's available as paperback and kindle worldwide.

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Grape Therapy: Olivia Caridi pt.2

Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe

49:07 min | 1 year ago

Grape Therapy: Olivia Caridi pt.2

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one podcast one percents off the vine great therapy them. Bristow didn't answer your question. Drink to to your concessions and you have to say about anything bachelor. Let's shake it up two more years Caitlyn or today. I'm sitting down. With a fellow bachelor. Nation alum who appeared on season twenty as misunderstood villain with a big mouth. She puts up big mouth to good use on her weekly podcast mouth off. She lives right here in Austin Texas though she's constantly on the go and exploring new destinations as you can see by following her on the Graham so excited to catch up with her today. Please welcome welcome to the PODCAST. My friend Olivia Hayes. Jay's a living we decided to do a little reunion because just over a year ago it was the three of us. So we're and we made it so weird how far. It's fun to do a year review view and like all different run that awkward. I felt to this day. Have you felt awkward Awkward Awkward. I was like like should I leave. It's like she gives. You need a minute. Yeah I it's so fun it's so funny now to think back and listen to that podcast because obviously obviously i. I brought Olivia because I was like what you're a bit of a buffer always but I also love having you on the podcast that helped you. Yeah and then. It's just so funny now that it's like that's how we met. Plus it's not like that was like a setup dater knew that we were gonNA Kinda hit it off. Yeah it was like thirty but like I don't know there was like a long period of time for an early came from it but sparks fly which I didn't even unrealized until people listened to the podcast. And everyone's like. Oh my gosh the chemistry. The funniest thing is that people kept writing being like like you set this up and I was like no I. Didn't I was happened. I had nothing to do with that connection whatsoever. I didn't even think they because I I remember when I brought the wine I brought wine and two glasses because I thought it was just like that was your thing having wine and I didn't even bring a third glass because I didn't even know you're going to be so it's not like you. You set that up yeah. I drank a lot coincidence. I rip shots before the Gosh so fun. That was fun as as auto 'cause I'm wearing the same beanie today that I was that day. You did. Tell me this was a recap. Oh I didn't wear the same thing by any means. That's because you were in a full-blown suits I think you we're at us. We're at a studio in Austin right now and we sent out somebody to get us. Wine is the the three of us together. Just kind of like pieces ship. I is anyone everyone turned it off by now. Shirk Snow Energy. We really got enough Alphen. This real related. Yeah I just like you know when we're traveling. I love travel but travelling as often as we are like. It's really tough when you're doing like forty eight hour. I didn't realize you guys hasn't been home like at all like you're just going so I haven't been since October thirty first. Let's am I don't know when this is going to air. But it's the twenty first of November. Today I remember. Yeah so I've been gone since the second and then between the two of us do all this traveling and and drinking and not sleeping properly and eating whatever you want you've been really good actually about working out but between that and Olivia works at four forty five in the freaking good morning. It's not like I wanted this. Nope he asks for that show. I love my job. You Delta but they operate on seniority right not like Merritt so if someone bumps you and they want your shift you're bumps your shift starts at what time I I'm there about four thirty but I clock in it for forty five to wake up then I wake up at three thirty. My Gosh every day bed seventy six thirty. Which is why I got all these messages? Being like how. Why did you not go to McCabe's live live show? Are you guys in a fight and I was like. I wish it was something exciting like that. We're really fighting all right. So Chris Chris Harrison was telling me about this crazy party who threw in Beverly Hills with all the biggest reality TV stars from every show and now I have to watch the commercials to see what happened happened like everyone else. Extreme foam here. Luckily for you Hulu has the reality. TV You love so start your free trial today at Hulu Dot com key last time we recorded boarded as well we were. It was Colton season. Was Airing Oh man and we theories or anything. Yes what I thought. We thought it was boring at the time. It got really good but we were all a little bit bored with it. I actually was very. This is not the time we first met. This was in Seattle right when we recorded what was going on at thousands it it no it was you had just been on the season. Oh Yes yes. So that was that was laid over so cold but it was filming coming Seattle. Yes we guys were like established. Okay okay that's when we were watching him. So what what do you think that. He's still cassie. Are We surprised because I'm not I'm not either. He's like committed. I just think it's funny that last time we podcast we were talking about how boring it was and then it got really good. I remember the first time I they met them. And the last time I met them at your podcast in Denver Yeah and I was like wow. I kept looking at her like. You're so pretty. I know gold is really pretty to. They're both very and very into each other like I'm very. They're so in love. We were with them at the People's choice awards and I just like sometimes sit back and watch couples just because as I like to see how they like body language how they communicate. How like you know? I like this evacuated and they are just the way they look at each other and just there. I feel like they're very very much in love. Ya think so too. Yeah Product. What's going on in your love life? Olivia Livia tell me crickets Jason. You can't really quickly. You know that interview. That just came out where the guy I farted on life. That's what it sounds like Jason's doing right now on this leather couch. You keep moving firm that that was a Fart so no no. It's it's the park gate. Who like did news anchoring he could have easily just dropped his phone on a table or something and it's not it could have been far around? I mean I did a lot. I had to far many times. Probably as an anchor and I never like ripped apart. Can't imagine let's say it. Yes yes in. Also if you're going to rip you can definitely do like a silence or seven totally Marshall. I don't know they play. It wasn't even the one far. I don't think that was the interview. Okay that's an has. Has Anyone like interviewed. The I been like did you fart. Its Way we could. We could talk. What is that High White Piano Code Code? Yes or no SAUVIGNON BLANC. Also sorry preferably from the anything but if it's I mean we prefer status of course any from New Zealand. Yeah I was so you were actually. That's more you could tell his face. He looked uncomfortable. Maybe less his body language was very tense and then he was more relaxed after anyways. Your love life. Don't think you're still think well there's nothing to talk about. So let's keep talking about fighting for good. I think you can control the sound. Like if I think you can control troll absolutely slow issues. I still was y'alls I fart around each other. I don't know but it was really funny when Jason I really a your has told this story before I probably asked you this because I'm very open in that world. Oh Yeah Oh yeah I really remember last time we did the podcast with Ben. Ben was like Ed Never in front of Jessica and I'll just tell us you know we're not getting passes. There's nothing to say. I don't have a crush on someone that's dating. I mean I was before I had to wake up three. AM every day. Yeah I did one like brewery afternoon date but I'm not I was. I was on sexy. Unsuccessfully Salihi what was that one six thank you well. I'm sure it's in your facebook off the vine group. I hope so. I don't actually have to say anything other some discussions going on well. Unfortunately a podcast guests that I had on whenever this comes out last week maybe you or everyone was like that was like Kaelin and Jason. We'll do you put the my only question. Did the PODCAST Komo. Yeah yes. It's Oh it's up so everyone in their mothers. Well I mean I don't know but Every comment when I posted a link to it was like in your instincts where there's some was there. There's some sparks flying. I mean. Yeah but I'm dumb as a rock like not. Do not see that. Sometimes I think my dog is flirting with me like what flirting is more so dog. Yeah every comment was like screw the content that I worked so hard on it was only like call. It was like a first date. It was like Caitlin Jason. He's so into you and I'm like we haven't talked since the podcast so I don't think he's into me also who. Who is it you want me to say it so you don't sure his name? It's a great name is great. Hain Lindsey Pain Power Power Name and he does W W one of the bigger forces in true crime. which is my favorite? Yeah Yeah it's my favorite thriller alert and you don't know though. Wow you haven't listened up and vanished. Why have actually yeah? We didn't know that was CLEO. Didn't we do this on a road trip. CL- yeah yeah so so you guys look we. He laughed a little so I was like making me laugh half single I. He lives in Atlanta he lives in Atlanta. which call? Well I do have this number. Look here's what I was trying to do not to get an whatever but I just and it's true I am going to Atlanta in two weeks for my final flight attendant interview the Big Day and then if I get it then I have to go to Atlanta for two months to train so ready ready for like I was like. Am I ready for the interview detour. Kiko we'll talk about that because I know you need to like height me. Yeah so anyway I was like Oh yeah I'm going to be Atlanta love to tour. Your headquarters is that what you said in your head what the kids are calling these where you go out an idiot but he was like. Oh yeah yeah totally yeah come and and then that was it she has to well. I mean I'm going to land. I don't know if I'm going to have the balls to be like. Hey can I endure. You're done some some creepy leap. Unlike as he's okay so well I don't know he was married and then he admitted on my my podcast that he's not married anymore. Which I already knew okay? But I don't know if he's single. I have no idea well in case he is and he's listening so what's his name. Ah Find Out. If he's tweeting him or something. Yeah we'll just can do. I wouldn't say I'm GonNa do dating someone you do. Oh in case. He's not what if he follows some revealing girls on instagram. What if he's you know we've been there before he kinda Not really follows a lot of bachelor people. But like a Lotta Bachelor people listen to finish. So he's probably he's following the girls who have their titties out. He doesn't know it to be true but also I didn't think it what's his name was one of those raids so I don't know maybe I actually don't know but anyway I yeah. I don't want Lindsey Right. I mean I'm not seeing any type of evidence. Nothing but partners but but he's also he's not like entertainment like he's not someone who's going to talk about. You would have a dating someone you'd have your last thirty post you'd have not not likely and kind of yeah it'd be I don't know what if he doesn't like your dogs one of our friends Brandy posted posted a video of Gemma last night and one of our friends commented and was like is that a squirrel or a a rat or duck. I just commented back back and I was like if you got love my dogs. You can't love me yeah I agree I mean it would be a huge fan. Imagine any guy would be like a hairless dog great Yom But they are so cute. You have an. They don't have to look for. Its cover yeah. I mean you were spent the day with Gemma Gemma. She's like gray yes she was great Ed. She's like a for some reason. I kept thinking of her as like Nicole Kidman. I don't know why that's just who she was like. Look I the brand brandy was just Nicole Kidman right. She was her. who wasn't someone? Just Nicole Kidman for Halloween Nicole. Kidman followed holding back. Oh no dairy big brain Ian I call each other Paris and Nicole and we were like a scene from the simple simple life and of course Paris Hilton commented on Brandy. Soto that's hot. She didn't see it. I was going through the photo like four days later and just stumbled upon Paris Hilton commenting on it and I was like brand. Did you realize so. Then I go to Paris Hilton's page and I look at who she's following numero uno is brandy randy Cyrus I was like. Are you kidding. Of course I followed her commented she didn't follow back so it's fine that's seven. I was Paris. Oh so it's fine. I forgive her. Paris Hilton opened my snapchat once and I got very excited about how. Why did you tag? Can you do that on snapchat. I don't know now I just sent it. I sent her a snapchat. She was a bachelor. She's bachelor fan her yeah and she opened it and I was like. Oh God. That's so cool. I what I said. Eleven eleven make a wish pitching daughter Snapchat snapchat in a long time. 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Fine for one hundred dollars off your first pair through the end of December and use code vine at checkout. That's T. A. M. A. R. A. M. E. L. L. O. N. dot com slash. We'll be right back with more off the vine rape therapy. You're listening off the vine rape therapy now that we've talked about some things super embarrassing. It's embarrassing like this woman that I work with today. She is like the all knowing about men. Just she's like oh he's Goo. He works in medical sales. He's not the one for you. I'm like how do you know you don't even know. What did she say? Well she well. She listened to the podcast and she was like I think he is in a relationship and I was like great based off the podcast. Yeah off I'm not seeing any evidence of it. Did you go to tagged interesting would you. Would you did anyone from bachelor summation and if so who would it. Be Good Question Peter Webber. I'll nope that's off limits. Yeah because he's probably going to be engaged. Damn you're right right. Yeah unless he pulls the Bradwell Mak. That's true also. That would be really cute. 'cause like the whole flight thing you can just like my dream is not my dream but it would be super great to marry a pilot just so that we could travel lookout right. Yeah I could see then I e for any airline but preferably my airline. But I'm I'm trying to think of like we chatted a not like romantically but we chatted a few times before he left for filming. 'cause I asked him to be my podcast and of course they wouldn't let obviously but I'd he said Oh I'm a bachelor person and I also worked for Delta and he was like no way we went back and forth talking about our basis and like all that stuff that was just so great to have like airport. Talk Sexy. I mean it helps that he's cute too. We'll yeah and surprise you haven't met anyone in the Delta Skylon all the trout actions five given my number this month to three people at the Sky Sky Club. No call what it's the purple pantsuit and the fact that I can't put makeup on at three thirty in the find the purple Pantsuit endearing. Its shape shape to it. I like it. I think it's like really cute and classy. And like I think you rocket everyone has a lovely shaped the peplum very slimming. So how does you walk me through this. What are you reading and under a seat are you like can i? I got a coffee Mug like this guy just walked. He walked in and I was like Whoa and he kept coming up asking kind of dumb questions diamond. Like you know what you're doing your Diamond Eamon Medaglia. What time you're played sports or what terminal you're at that and of course my my friend was like he's just coming up to you on purpose and I was like Sh- quiet quiet and anyway I wrote my number on the back of a boarding pass that he didn't need I was like? Oh I printed your boarding pass and he was Kinda looked at me on his way out like. I didn't ask for that but I was like. Oh here you've got got an upgrade. He didn't but he saw the number. I have to think he didn't because why would he not call me right. Just getting Do you ever look for the ring on the finger always. Oh yeah there was this. Actually there was this one guy who also my coworker was like. He's super into you and he would. He was a regular afternoon. Sooner on Thursdays flying up to the West Coast and He hadn't been there in a while and it turns out he was like. Oh sorry I just got married. That's I've been gone for a minute. Walk Great Job Kinda questioning her when she state listening to this podcast being like he has a girlfriend. Because I'm kind of like you've been a little off flatly so yeah that's I'm now I'm intrigued now. I want to do some digging. Could you just ask him. I fear rejection but it wouldn't be rejection. It wouldn't be like rejection would-be him being like I don't like you and this is never going to happen. That's rejection so it's like it's weird. Well what if you just ask them to get like coffee when you're in Atlanta. That's what I was thinking. Yeah because either way my my friend was like even. If it's not romantic your brain just like Bing Bong Bong with podcasting and true crime and stuff like I would love to just pick your brain. Yeah totally so when I'm there for my interview I should be like sleeping in studying right but I'll probably be like WANNA go to. I really hope you get the job for being a great. Yeah I mean I feel I feel good about. It's been a really long process. Yeah like who would Funk Hoof yeah core four four months of interviews and like waiting weeks to hear back and everyone else is hearing back and you're not hearing anything behavioral based interviews so so it's basically like situational if you. Oh yeah so this happened. Tell me about a time. What did you do? What what actions did you take take? How did the situation resolve itself whatever which are actually like quite difficult? Yeah and you have so many examples especially working in their lines like a time when you made a customer's Day I was like I feel like I do that every day. That's like my goal when I walk into work. Yeah so it's hard to pinpoint like one moment you know. Oh so but I've gotten this far I don't know and then you go to Atlanta and it's like the seven or eight hour hard day and no one really knows if they're doing good or bad added until till you get so Jason's really good at giving advice for interviews for behavioral based interviews. What you're supposed to do is take like my take the company's core mission which? I'm sure there's like five values and you want to think of exact examples that align with those values and then what you could do is you can modify fight based on the question and it's okay to fill a little bit in those scenarios. Have not you have to be prepared with like five power. Examples of leadership ship customer service execution. You know being on task whatever it is at the core value. That's a big one. Then the big one I always say is like first impressions are imperative if you screw up a first impression. Seventeen acts of remedy to seven seventeen asks what you've got to nail left. I three to five minutes like WHO's your story. What's next why you want to be there? The value bring to them and how you can help make better here in your Alpha has to be on even and just year especially as in the face of Delta like your hair. I'm getting my hair cut like blown out the date the day I leave. I'm going waking up and then leaving so I'm like it's non. verbals are so important to right the way you walk the way you sit how you shake a hand are you shaking hand pom pom down. And you know there's there's another thing out there if you're fidgeting with your watch or you're taking lint off of your jacket that's a sign that highly frustrated traded conversations going there like so many I contact especially today is so important. No one when they're talking talking in interviews and or being talking to looks in the eyes anymore. There's such thing as too much because sometimes I'll be doing like when I interviewed in Austin my my interviewees interviewees or a couple they were like Lu I was like do I have to look away one time. You don't want to do the whole stared seeing like sometimes I'll look at their nose therefore habit as long as you're making the other thing our world is we say like an so often if you're really service and you're starting hurting your sentence with You're not speaking at all with confidence right then. If you're saying you're not articulating or thinking about what you're doing before you're doing it. So everyone out author has been his interviewer not try and see if you're saying like often because it changes the whole impact your delivery and no matter what you're saying is like I'll do podcast and I don't think I said like at all in the moment and then I'll listen back line editing and I'm like Whoa I could not listen and I'm so glad I have somebody else because I I do say a lot and some people call me up for it. I think I've gotten a little better but it so when you say it says that you don't speak with confidence I'm like I do. I just I just a lot. Surest put especially like professionally. If you're saying it's like you're uncertain about what you're telling like a customer client. Uncertainty drives obviously a lack of confident. So I've just been nervous because every flight that I've taken so far I'll we'll go to the flight attendant and be like. Hey how is your life. which is what it's called? Can you have any advice. And all they say is first of all they say. It'll be fine. I'm like what is you'll be you find me right. And then they'll say to yourself what is if I myself like. I don't know how you know no idea. All you know is that the day is filled with current F.A.S.T. But other than that they intentionally they tell people. Do not tell anyone else about your experience. So I've I've asked ask people in there like yourself. I can find it online. Like glassdoor dot com glass door all this torture. I have to drive the Dell. I WanNa talk about the PODCASTS. They don't WanNa pull a Sam Hunt here you guys you guys have your moment. I'll pour up thank you. I love it. A Brown paper bag comes in with Red Solo Cup similar like just just like Shaan. I'm off the territory. Got Me more energetic. That's a little sad. Isn't it a little sad little flash. No no just kidding trick pouring unless our friend who was your name Devon Evan Dow do you want a little splash. I wonder if you've got a Red Solo. Drive in Dallas is a pretty tough drive. There's just not a whole lot going on. Yeah you go through WACO which is Kinda cool because most people stop at Magnolia which is chip and Joanna's store. Yeah if you had a minute but Jason's probably not down it's right in Waco he's like maybe I just love that you're not flying to Dallas because Delta. It doesn't shelter. We need Rahman yeah just to come. So we went Phoenix to Austin which should be very quick easy flight but with Rahm we had to go all the way up to Salt Lake City. To Austin yeah but I don't care it's so funny Jason's Dad said to me like just you know like you shouldn't you shouldn't be taking all these connections. It's just not worth your time and I'm like no so committed to Delta Alright so I've obviously been open about. Oh my anxiety I do encourage others to do the same I think. Mental health is so so important we should all be open about. How're feeling should be no shame when I'm feeling anxious? Yes and on the verge of a panic attack. There's really one thing that helps me and that's Rahman my dog obviously and that's what an emotional support animal does 'cause I know he even brings comfort Jason as well Madison. Who is part of my podcast team opened up to me recently about her anxiety after hearing me talk about mine and and she really wanted to get her dog eleanor? Esa Letter but doing so was an easy and that's because while therapy is essential to mental health. It's also difficult to come by for for a lot of people out there. Rahman is my emotional support. Animal that's how I travel with him. I wanted to help Madison. Make Eleanor her emotional support animal too so we did. Some research online came across Sir pet dot com. which is a telehealth company? It connects you with a licensed therapist. Who does a mental health evaluation and issues a clinical treatment plan? So if you qualify after your session you can have the documentation necessary for your to be an essay within forty eight hours in these are typically letters from a licensed mental health professional is really important to Madison to have her. Ese letters as soon as possible with the holidays coming up since she plans to visit that her family on the east coast so with an es a letter from her assertive pet therapist. Madison can keep eleanor right on her lap to help her with anxiety during the flight liked if you guys are struggling with mental health issues and want to see if you qualify for an essay get connected with a therapist online now by heading to assert a pet dot com. I'm slash buying. That's crt a pet dot com slash vine or use code vine Dot Com for fifteen percent off your evaluation. I I saw your diamond now jim diamond. Yes I'll never never forget it. You WanNa talk about recap you want Rico. Yeah first time I met Jason. He was a silver when I swiped him in. Thank you for your silver status. Oh Boy uh-huh diamond. You're in the big leagues now. A- talk about a year of change. I remember like after that we we had in Denver. I would go back to the airport in and so where are you traveling and I'd make something up. I'm going here here because I wasn't sure like would kaylynn. I I like. How would it work? Would it not work but also I actually am looking up sites and I see that you're going to show up his long. Aw that's so funny now. I really don't stock you guys but you were coming and I was like what time are they arriving. We're reading dinner and I said they don't they don't we don't have a direct flight so they're obviously coming in from like later. So anyways crazy the reward programs like that like they get me so bad checking my miles as much as a check like my bank account it. I love it too. I'm proud of us. We're already racking up the miles for next year. Yeah it's it's just make such a huge difference. We'll we'll be right back with more off the vine three therapy from the lady gang network. podcast one dated a lot of game. Maybe it's I don't know if it's showman's with Kevin McHale and Jenna US quits joined the former Glee Stars and best friends for an untraditional take on finding love and friendship in a world of show business as the modern poet said tradition. Don't miss new episodes of show me with Kevin Jenna every Thursday on apple podcasts. And podcast one hope you find friends. Good of that often grape therapies. So do any. Hey good confessions for us. Oh you should remind me to think about these Will you can save it for the drunk. Dial oh we we can confess on the drunk. Dial if you'd prefer you know as the drunk dial were drunk. Yeah okay so we got a bottle title. I gotta get to work and keep talking. You keep talking and I'll keep confession I don't. I am so confessed stout office you okay go ahead last night. There's Hula hoops at the bar. Oh you were unbelievable. Yeah thank goodness you went there. I meant to tell you to give. It was awesome down rainy so fun. But that's my favorite great. It's great. Yeah I'm Jason was trying hoop and I'm really good. I I don't know why but I'm a really good hula-hoop or I could swing it from down to my hips and backup. Yeah and and I looked over. Jason was Youtube Ing. How and you're swinging your hips around like trying to sell strategy? I'M GONNA learn and he was to ever tried wouldn't let me put it on my stories. Because every time I can't way screwing something up. Caitlyn wants to highlight to the teaching this one time. Not The healthier. Did you get mad about the influencers series. Oh when yeah. She was like for me. I thought it was okay. I'll just in case people didn't see the story. I did a behind the scenes of Jason Tardy instagram and him trying to do an ad and it was very funny. Because you're getting very frustrated with yourself and you'd be like all right so we all know and then the phone down and be like okay and then you'd like work on his lines and put it up and I caught all the yeah. But here's the thing with Jason is you. You're very You've you very smart very intelligent. You're very well-spoken. All all of your stories are very you know like you know what you're saying and you mean it and and you say well where I'm like people love the little like Jason flaws so what people really loved watching that and being like. Oh my gosh. We love the site of Jason. I thought it was funny. I thought it was really my only comment to that. Is like the the same reciprocation like have literally rape before that Caitlin was filming stories for Vancouver Candle and I was in the bathroom dying because literally like if you give Caitlyn a script. They will take her thirty times. Sheriff Pat I hate my head I kept thinking I got a film. This this is hilarious but the way my brain works. I'm like I know if I did that. She would be upset with it so I don't hurt her feelings. So then I go and do one in one for company and it literally took like four or five turns. It was a joke like one tenth of what I had to listen to and of course she's on they're fired it out not even like asking really really great. It was fly. Mom wants to be an influence. Obviously yeah who wouldn't WANNA it'd be an influence or right but she always makes fun of how everyone starts there. I should alright so true. So I'm like mom you make fun of influencers and yet you're she's constantly like well will you tag me. How many followers do I need to get? She is set. She wants hellofresh so bad. I don't WanNA bring brands into it so I think when for certain brands it should just be like organic placement. Why Hey this is like I'm really using this and this is but then they give certain brands give you these scripts that you have to adhere to and they'll aid to Redo it and Redo it and I just don't think that's the way to do it and Kale? It always says to the branch like listen this. This is the way I'm either. I'm going to do it this way. We're not GONNA do it because it's just too billy mays like here's a day for two ninety nine all right so funny. It's so true brandy was really getting on me about was like you have not posted in a month. It's been it's been awhile care care. Amazing that's great and I also don't do things that are I'm like. Yeah the picture what do you think about this whole. I think there's GonNa be a big change in numbers numbers. It I stopped. I'd I've fallen into the trap of carrying very deeply about numbers and comments and then I fell out of that so it doesn't really affect me that much but I think it's really good for people that I know who are addicted to likes and comments and herring and all all that. So when I was talking to Lauren and molly from the kind campaign they would say that girls at schools now are saying you can only hang out out with us if you get other. Girls are both from high school. I randomly was going down a rabbit hole and I ran ran into some key girls who go to my high school. And they're all getting like seven hundred likes on the pictures were just like what the Heck I was lucky to get twenty five live and I didn't know I'm just like example myself like on facebook at the time and it was like. Oh Billy said Nice is pick I now and now it's like it's just so different I it's crazy I don't know yeah. I read some articles I heard some of the some of the reasons are doing one. Is that pictures are are no longer the future of instagram video. So doing this is going to allow them to further compete with like snapchat and tick tock because people will be more emphasized on stories stories and videos as opposed to pictures. So that's a big one and then I heard they were saying that because there is no measurement of likeness People will post more often as opposed to like worrying about the perfect time or the perfect photo or things like that. They'll post more often knowing. It's not like a competitive thing trying to think what it's just so funny 'cause like they'd release this whole IGT thing. And I don't ever look at that ever. That's tough and I've never done it and so I don't maybe videos taking anyone at home. Everyone's like like we don't get paid on instagram. So everyone is dealing with the change of social media just in general and like how what impacts their life dating so much harder to you know. It's just awful. Why is that? Why is that? I think it's like the paradox of choice like okay. What you're saying? You know what I choose Jenny when I can swipe tomorrow and Billy is going to be hot as hell single single and we talked about this. I like the video concept just influenced by anything. I like the video for raw. Yeah it's like real. Yeah the rolling and add for face tune to all this is bad and and it's showing you the comparisons of what you can make yourself. Look you can make your is bigger. You're like Ma your lips bigger. You can do change everything about your appearance on facing to to be more beautiful and it was like the way they did really really tacky. It was not good. I mean I'm all about a face tune with whitening brightening but to actually go in and like make your face essentially positioning your unattractive and then they do all these changes to it to make sure. It's just disgust. Like what a bad add. The first thing I said there was this girl I I wish I remember her handle. This was a while ago. It's probably people like I know this already but there was this girl who photoshop autoshop herself onto a bridge in Paris and posted like loving Paris. Like it's so great and the Photoshop job was like so so bad like it looks like she was hovering and everyone called her out and she like she didn't even delete the photo still like now. I'm famous but it's can you imagine you can literally edit yourself to be places that you're not now like it's just stupid as every google that it was really it was due to. You can do that for videos. Very very unfortunate. Because you're seeing a lot more raw but you can actually see coming out right so during my fall tour this month I was telling the audience that I was on my period and that it guys just don't realize how awful periods could be that every single month you guys every month you have to deal with it. Why don't more people understand periods and WANNA do something that makes it better? You know I mean. 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It's just guys you answer one time and then never responded really. Yeah so but yeah I guess just like you guys were obviously really looking when you found each other and yeah I think my opinion is I think that I was. I've always been attracted to people that are like very confident with their own skin and I think that comes back to looking at yourself and saying am I like just happy with where I'm at in life and who I am and and what I'm putting out there because I do think you attract what you are. I think that's one big thing is like gotTa Take Care Self. Whatever that's GonNa make you mentally happy? Fa Ah confident in what you are. What you're doing how you're doing? I think just brings out a different type of energy in light. That'll find. I agree with that. It's the the what is the law of attraction like you really do attract better relationships no matter what kind of relationship. If you're in a good place with yourself like you'll get the job you want. You'll get the guy you want. I think I'm like just sitting there like I'm making moves and maybe it's bright. Click right. I'm kind of realizing that I'm getting there and so I'm like thinking about it a little bit more. Trust me. I've been in moments where I'm like. I don't even want get away from me. Yeah in the mood right but kind of. Maybe it's because I'm feeling feeling like I'm getting there where I'm thinking about it. And then yeah obviously like brand has her man now and I'm like they're so frigging so cute you too and that she wasn't looking it just like happened. Some kind of trying to keep on any time. I leave anywhere like dress like I am right now. Even brand and my mom will be like you really wearing that but I love that. Because then you'll attract all I don't know I'm just over thinking probably but I just like to hear from absolutely dead ends such a bad idea like I think so. I was talking to Blake about this. Just like if you're he's like might be going on a date with this girl but I know it's not going to go so anyway I mean why at this point in your started you WanNa find someone why you've for her sake for your sake. It's doing no one good right like why I even bought like a but if you do I'm saying a lot of people that will make comments like I know it's not going to go anywhere but it's fun or whatever I just have to get out. I'm paralyzed paralyzed by fear of rejection and failure. Yeah I get that because like you know I think I'm kind of old fashioned and then I'm like I wish that one day like I would feel like you know pursued or whatever but like realistically that might just not happen the way that it does in hallmark movies. Yeah I watch all the time. Don't ever even those. But I don't know Jason I you always good advice for people who are afraid of failure. I feel we can end the grape therapy. Yeah with advice advice on failure. I just think failures is so many people are driven by like intangible things that don't exist that drive drive their life so like failure in my opinion is just this. It's just like fake. Intangible thing that controls the decisions we make what we do how we do it and I think once you can have the confidence to just break through that and realized nine out of ten times this imaginary anxiety you have. There isn't really tangible. Reality to it it can change your life completely. His life right like how things are going to go before we actually you. You know you you know what I mean like. I have this pain I like you. He's GonNa get away from me and restraining order me. But what if I said I like you and he he said cool. Let's try this out. Why would i? We've assume I'm going to get a restraining order. I'd ah saying that's exactly what unsafe okay. Great deals like if you're afraid of failure put it like everything's okay. They come up with these ideas. Their brain runs. Put that on paper and then look at the reality of the situation. Is that actually real and if that does happen what are the actual consequence right in their career. Everything in life is based on this false like pre concepts and notions. They put in their head which is just that was really. I do believe in that so you are like you. I feel a lot smarter and more at peace. Yeah from this. Thank you well any Lina because we are going to go. Everybody can listen more tomorrow on the drunk. Dial so I can't believe if I were to be able to jog dial drunk I have to think about and confession. I'm GonNa give you one challenge. I want you to live days. Forty eight hours forty eight hours with it all being afraid value almost like liar liar how he couldn't lie defer to days whenever you're afraid to do something because value absolutely have been seen talk to that guy and say hi to do just do it forty hour different. Let's challenge everybody out there to do that. Forty dollars. 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#1926 Drinking on corona lockdown grew Brumates sales

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1:10:08 hr | 7 months ago

#1926 Drinking on corona lockdown grew Brumates sales

"Hey there freedom-fighter Miami's Andrew Warner. I'm the founder of Mickey. Were still recording from my home and I hate it. Everybody loves working from home except for me. I working from an office. I missed the structure. Missed the whole getting away from the House thing but I do love talking to entrepreneurs about how they built their business is. Because I'm always surprised by what's possible just when I think I'm the ultimate optimist it turns out no. I underestimated what's possible joining me. Today is Dylan Jacob. When I first heard about his company brew mate which creates insulated. Drink wear for alcohol. I said Nats interesting. Let's pass and the reason I said. Let's pass as I said this is going to be small company but it's a cute little side business. Put underestimate the revenue. Look at look faces. I'm saying he's like disgusted by my approach to it by my by my underestimation of what's possible. I didn't think the world needs more more ways of holding alcohol. I didn't think that it was possible to get people to come to your frigging website and Buy Cup. That will hold onto your alcohol now. Frankly I'm someone who doesn't care about how cold my whiskey is. I don't even care about how cold my beer is. Make a cold for a minute and then if it gets warmer as I hold onto it fine. I just didn't see the use of it. I do have to admit when I did look at broome mates designs. I said that looks freaking beautiful. If you drink out of that it makes you look elegant. It makes it look thoughtful and makes you look. Is it wrong to say a little Buddhist like like your content and cool anyway? It's beautiful beautiful stuff but I didn't think the business was this big. It is big and the guy behind. It is amazing. Considering how far he's come in life from where he started out by to talk about how he did it and I think little questioning his decision to do this. I'm looking at your face and Dylan it. Looks like you're wondering why is Andrew Introducing here like that want to be open about my thoughts? I was hesitant and then I was shocked. Now I'm curious. We invite him here to do this. And thanks to sponsors we can to. I is a company that will help you. Turn strangers into customers create great landing pages and more than that create landing pages convert into sales? It's called Click funnels and a second if you're hosting website one experiment with something you've got to go and hosted with hostgator and I'll talk about both those later. I deal welcome. Thank you for having me on the show. Andrew appreciate it. How much revenue you doing annually last year. Two Thousand Nineteen last year. We did a little over thirty five million dollars in revenue this year. We should be over fifty dollars. You're not shocked. My I apologize my Gat Z. Back what's doing mating is a bengals? So He's like a twenty five pound GATT Being locked up and so. He's currently protesting. So I let the cat out. I I don't before you do one thing. Revenue from March when the world fell apart was alive down up up how much so march ended up about forty percent up from February. Which which really is is how every year goes so like our sales growth throughout the year is a linear curve so from January to December ourselves as continuously in Greece. Every month is bigger than the previous. Yeah because January is the slowest month and then from there. It's starting to heat up. Our our products were great for summer. And then you're going to give season with our biggest quarter so the increase in sales the we've seen has been Anything that was unexpected but with the whole krone of our situation obstacle me to play it was unexpected and then bravery. We're actually operating percent above projections so wait. We're recording this on April fifteenth compared to last year's April how are you so we surpassed so far in the last fifteen days all ourselves from Las April? Dude what the Hell is going on? I would have thought for sure. Your Business would be toast. Who WANTS TO GO? Buy another thing to hold onto their alcohol when they're worried about dying. This is yeah I so you know when I first started getting worried about corona virus. I was in Canada and I was up there with a buddy of mine and we were doing a helicopter skiing trip and You know the stock market crash. People are losing their minds they were talking about like not potentially not being able to reenter the US from Canada and We saw a pretty decent tank across all channels twenty five to thirty percent for a few days when you say paints all channels you mean marketing channels snapchat facebook instagram bizarre sales channel so specifically direct consumer so Amazon and our garage consumer website at about the same decrease in sales which it wasn't anything. Extremely worrisome I mean kind of expected that with the panic but you know for me. I think as an ECOMMERCE coming. We're in a very solid position. Just we don't have a ton of overhead Very solid balance sheet. But we're also in the middle like a girl that could erase and things like that. Where if we see a decline in sales that can really throw a wrench in everything. We're doing so you know once I got back into the US. I immediately started working with all our vendors and everyone else. I'm just trying to get understanding of how they were doing with the whole situation Extended a midterm. Should we expect people onstar laying off employees things like that and and for the most part I mean wholesale was really the only channel that has been impacted in on the flip side of that. Like I think what you have right now. It's just me. I'm as baffled as you are. I mean I. I expected a decrease in sales not twenty five to thirty percent but a small decrease in sales during this time period. But what we've seen is actually been the complete opposite and so not only. Is it cheaper to advertise right now? But our Our conversion rate has increased by like sixty percent. Yeah so so. It's not just cheap traffic. It's like our conversion rate is up significantly so eight that means that you're obviously getting a lower price from places where your advertising but the people who are coming over are more qualified right. I can mean a combination. Things generally like the easiest way is as the intent is much higher and I think what you have right now. People are just bored like everyone is at home. They're bored people are drinking out liquor. Stores are considered essential services now and no one likes alcohol. And that's what we're built on like just providing a better drinking experience and providing tools ultimately like g bureau ever Zipper denture. And so. That's your theory. Your theory is people are at home. More they're buying to feel better and they're drinking more which I've actually seen from past guests in and the news that I've seen Pennsylvania for example only has state run liquor stores. They said this is not essential. We're going to let our state. Employees go home. People in Pennsylvania started going out to other states other states started asking for ideas to make sure the people from Philly weren't coming in with the corona virus. Pennsylvania finally said. You know what we're GONNA do is we're going to just open up these stores at a certain time and make sure that it safer because that is how people are in are demanding alcohol right now. Denver said that Liquor stores were non essential and two hours later they reversed their decision. Got It and so you're seeing that there is and I'm noticing it also anecdotally from Some friends at their drinking more Which doesn't doesn't happen to me. I drink more socially and a lot less when it's just me but I I totally get it there nights when I say Libya we're GONNA Watch TV. And I'm GonNa just drink straight vodka slightly. I think we can agree. Everyone rate now they could use a drink so I think that explains the converse side of things. I think from the gossip advertising the results were seeing right now. like cd-roms the CPA's that we're seeing are like two thousand seventeen. I mean over the last few years we've seen a drastic increase in cost park offers and we're back in two thousand seventeen and what platforms are you. Seeing prices go down every single black from using so facebook instagram mainly in those placards specifically at my theory behind it is twofold so the first side of things is again right now. You have optimal spending much more time on their own. So they've done studies and I'm seeing that people on average spending route seventy percent more time on their phone every single day can earn the normal Another flip side of that. You have a drastic increase in availability for ad space because most people in my cost. Saudi and travel sectors are pulling out and a lot of people are really back their ad spin so knowledge. You have morals they on the front end. Because people are spending more time on their phones or scrolling more but then on the back in you also less people advertising so that combination of things I is when I believes attributed to grey results that we're seeing on the front end but on the back end the conversion resided things. That's where we were confused because you know. Obviously we're expecting the costs. Rabbis me go down right now. But we're also expecting our conversion rates. Go down in. They would equalize and they didn't mind. That is people They're bored. They see the value in the product or sitting at home. No one wants to drink. Warm beer or Seltzer and and were there solve that. So your guy who's now I noticed taking helicopters to go and ski. You started out in a whole other place in the world can. Can we talk a little bit openly about what happened when your parents got divorced when you were growing up? What happened to you Yeah so I was home schooled until fourth grade. I grew up in a very very religious household and ultimately very celtics from the world but type of religion. What are we talking about? Nondenominational Christian was what my bad class widens allowed. What did it mean that you are religiously raised just very strict leg? I I was not allowed to watch. Tv The heck profanity and that was a lot play violent video games. I wasn't allowed to You know a really interact anyone outside of the church body. He had like home school groups so I was raised hanging out with people in the home school groups and really didn't have friends outside of that and so ultimately like this. I was just pretty sheltered. I didn't have a good grasp on like what the real world was really like. And so when my parents got a divorce in fourth grade my mom custody of you might use of Lang's and You know she. We've actually were. Were Couch Surfing on outlook families couches? And you know the church was kind of helping us out in. My Mom had government assistance. And we we really were struggling but my mom has made like she was so strong. I mean she was working like fifty sixty hour weeks like doing whatever she she. A shelter with you for a while like so. We women shelter for honestly. Don't remember I mean I was pretty young but at least like three or four weeks and that was kind of a transitional period I we're going to do much detail on that portion of things by light the women's other itself I mean I don't remember a whole lot about remember. We are in a small room together. I don't remember. I think he blocked it out because fourth grade is right. Fourth grade is enough first of all to see where you were and be afraid of where you're going into look around. Fourth grade is old enough to remember this stuff. There was there was a few months like in that time that I really remember i. I remember when they split up. I remember like being scared. I remember you know going into women's shelter. Remember leaving there and going and saying I have an older brother. Who's my brother? So same among different ad and he was only like low twenty S. I mean he was probably my age now and we lived with him for five months up in Northern Indiana. So I mean you know yet. National rooms are all less stayed there. My mom had her own little space. And and then from there Like summertime so I it wasn't the square yet and so I ended up starting public school in Weiland Indiana so we ended up going living with my aunt. Who you know Jeddah a younger daughter my cousin and then her husband so is a only child moving in a family of four so then we had like seven in his little. Howson Weiland Indiana and You know my first venture into school was terrifying. I dress pretty weird like I didn't really know how to talk to people out great social skills and and so like my first venture into school is they're buying leg. I was writing a school bus for the first time I was in public classrooms. I I I think I blended in pretty quickly. I mean it didn't take me long to figure out. I mean I've always been pretty good at adapting and so you know in a few months. Add up pretty solid set of friends and and things like that but overall like would I notice even through fourth sixth grade as I was growing up was just ally at any point understand. I mean looking back now. I see how much my mom truly sacrifice and like how much we were struggling but at the time we didn't really get it what I did was. I wanted to dress like friends. I wanted it to happen things. They did gaming systems and things like that and every time I asked to answer was kind of like no generally afford area and I understood what my mom is going through and again not to not to do now but enough to where I kind of stopped asking those things really just figured out ways to go and make myself and like what. What did he earn money? The burden in like I just feel bad asking. What did you do to earn money? I've heard that you were real hustler as a kid so we we lived in like elderly neighborhood so I had a little landscaping business on the summer. I would know everyone's garage and the winner. I would earn the ball. I would rate their leaves. In the winter I would do their driveways sidewalks and that was mainly what I did. I mean through through leg orthodontics. Seventh Grade Cypress like twenty people in the neighborhood that outdo the retailer biweekly you saw the electron ix bought us. Ill onyx fix them. Sold them wear like on Ebay. Or something Yeah so that was moving. More into like freshman year of high school So migrant WHO's an emigrant move to the US in nineteen fifty five from the Middle East of Ramallah specifically and he He had a little electronic repair shop in Indiana a specialized fixing old. Tv's NBC arms and players and things that and so I grew up working with him and not shop on so I kind of had a bit of a background in like electric repair and I thought it was really fun and challenging and so you know he giant Jamie whenever I was going into freshman year and was like Shea keep coming in with flat screen. Tv's IPHONES IPADS. And and I don't know how to fix them like I've never seen these before and he didn't really want to get into it but Back look kind of sparked. The original idea was like. Oh no one's fixing and I started looking into it and it was the company that guy at the time called diesel And so as a male in service where you literally mail in your iphone or whatever else the only way to get your your devices face and I was like. There's no way if you're doing that like who wants to wait to smell in their phone. I can't imagine that people are actually doing. That is what I found was people were selling their devices for like scrappy. I mean if you broke through vulnerable to selling it for twenty thirty dollars and so I started sourcing ours from overseas. We'll even before that sourcing barks from Ebay Amazon. Actually I and that's important. Is that a player in this later? and then. I ended up. Buying the parts on that platform is not very high quality like they had dust onto the screen that debt. Exiles things like that or what we call a beer Arts and sign it binding supplier overseas. That had a great parts that are. Oem Screams refurbished class And I started doing my own repairs. Not viewed loved his by roku devices. Fix them in the Russo. In between freshman is offering year. I made over twenty thousand dollars doing that and brought off it. I use that money to like my first car was a fantastic way for me to make money and software kind of rolled around. I again was was doing this pretty heavily. But what I noticed was like the amount of phones and devices that were on their work dwindle and I didn't really know why when I found out was that there are a lot of repair shops. Opping ALL AROUND INDIANA. There were now actually. Doing repairs ends the kind of crushed. My business overnight. I was like Oh drying up so I naturally wins. All repair shops in scope out the business. I wanted to understand like how much they were charging and Nominee PEOPLE. Ed working for them and kind of get a feel for the business What I found out was they were all getting their parts on Amazon Ebay. And I was like all these suckers don't even know like they're giving their their customers like super crappy arts that allied Arginine Valia inside rod in parts of these stores K. Listen like I have a supplier for a grade arts and I can split you locally with. I can deliver them to you. Whatever and so for about a year by I was working with maybe like ten. Repair SHOPS ARE ON INDIANA. I do local delivery service. I literally like academic order deliver it to them and then junior year I was like okay like this is going really well I wanted to figure out a way to bring this to the entire United States. That was like when I opened our shop by store. I created our first instagram. I was like scouring instagram for hashtags looking for cell phone repair in Melanin Diem and then Melton Like examples of our arts just to do a comparison. Whatever currently getting what we offer And so by senior year we were working with delbra hundred repair shops around the US. I was making over one hundred thousand dollars net profit as a senior in high school and I was like wow. This is fantastic. But I didn't consider myself notch printer and I always say this is a funny story to tell because I still consider that hustle so I had went my entire life just like trying to figure out ways to generate money and I had never really expected this business specifically to turn into what it did but I also didn't expect it to last for a long time I just Lancia was changing so fast. Apple is starting to roll out for repair programs. That arts thing late that and I was like I didn't consider myself Mantra Mirror. I was actually planning on going to do for engineering So through school. Now my life blame was I wanted to do product development design again. I liked the tinker with things. I I wanted to be an inventor. I kept journals and wrote down product ideas and make prototypes for products. That I thought people would I whenever but that was my passion. I wanted to do it for someone else. I didn't even have entrepreneur mindset. It was his like I consider myself hustler rid the same time. I had grown up poor and had a lot of uncertainty in my life. So like idea working for someone who's really appealing. I'm just in terms of like having four one K. And Safety Night I'd safety net right. That was a dream. Most people who have that dream about being being entrepreneurs let me take not most but many mythic moment here and ask you questions about what you just said versus one hundred thousand dollar net profit. What did you do with that money as a kid so I did a lot of things again? I other side Hustle so I bought and sold cars a lot over twenty five different cars and so my senior year is actually bought Lamborghini so I got this on auction from Dennis. That lived up in Michigan on. May Twenty thousand dollars on that car. I bought it. Drove for like two months and then drove it's spring break in. Daytona that actually sold it to Lamborghini. Updates and Maitland twenty thousand on that but for the most part. I saved my money. I mean I never really spent frivolously on the cars I did buy. We're only because I knew I could flip them. Like I never bought like a brand new car. I like fixer uppers. I liked tinkering with things against by broken cars and fix them and resell them much at this period. Yeah I've always been like pretty monogamous. I mean I've had a serious girlfriend when I was in. Russian is school identity girl for two years and then I dated a my second girlfriend from junior year Until like three years ago so we were together all or five years. You wanted like using this money to attract women to show. They know none of that. I see your. I didn't even drive the Lamborghini to high school. I I drove a two thousand one on Grand Prix dies will because even bought the Lamborghini. What was it about it that appeal to you or the price like I so our. If you're saying it was a good deal. Yeah reason I bought it so So again like I bought and sold car so I was always on auto trader in other Lapworth craigslist. Wherever like looking ours that I thought were good deals and I came across this. Lamborghini was in Troy Michigan. So it was like A. I don't even remember how Dr Like Five. Six hours from Indiana. Maybe a and the guy likes when he told me he was looking for it. I thought he was lying and ended up turning out that he basically just owed sixty five thousand dollars on. It was a two thousand four Lamborghini yard and he he owed sixty five thousand dollars and he was like I want sixty five thousand four. I can't get another loan this other guard. I want until I saw and I was like I will be there in five hours. I literally off. A plane flew their Lamborghini of joy. Had it inspected met him at chase. Bank paid for in cash drove back. Indiana started on my girl ex-girlfriend's house at the time. Okay like a security system and everything else. I've been like I know. Where is this thing and And I'm still doing it outside and then for two months I mean I drove it occasionally but I didn't really drive in much like I was just looking for higher in the nine at finding a buyer in Daytona. Beach just happened to be where we were going to break signing up driving at there and then drove it for the whole week basically insults them. His such an isolated. This is an exciting way to live life. And it's such a it opens me up creatively. It's like Andrew. If you hate working from home get Outta the bullshit of working from home or find a way to enjoy it. But you don't have to put up with it. You know this is. This is definitely my second recording interviews from the House. African hate it but I I do love being around people who come up with ideas who constantly implement stuff just gets me frigging wound up and excited and reminds me. Life is whatever I make of it. I know this sounds so trite. And if you said that to me I'd give you one of these roles and but Italian film right now let me take a moment. Talk about my sponsor. Then I'm GONNA come back and ask you about a very uncomfortable time in your life. That seems unexpected. Considering what you just said my first monsters a company called Click. Funnels is the landing page funnel and sales creation process for hustlers. Like you like me like a guy named Russell Brunson Russell's a guy who admired people growing up who sold stuff on infomercials use to watch infomercials identity. Yeah I can't I couldn't stop watching them. Elite on what is it. Billy mays billy mays here right. Did he die? You died the best. There was though. I don't think anyone even come. Close to touch a sham. Well Guy There's the I forget the the bunch of them. I used to love watching them. Because there's such could sales people they would just make you WANNA buy shammy. Would you go to the grocery store and buy? But they'd make you WANNA buy their shammy anyway but there's something about a good sales process that if you if you watch it you feel proud you feel happy anyway. I used to be into that. Russell's guy who is into that and he said you know I want to make to make selling fun like that to make it as fun and as effective as those infomercial people that we admired as fun and effective as it could be so he created this landing page. Which allows you to create to collect email addresses in a way. That's more More effective than the average landing page but he also added tools into it. That will that would have made. Billy mays proud if he was smart. Enough understand how this stuff worked online because once you collecting email address with the dragon rob you can start collecting credit card information and selling stuff and then up selling and bump Nord bumping all this and all that all this fun stuff that when you sit down and you say am I into it. Yeah can I do it? Yeah I didn't know this was possible. You just start getting your creat- creative juices going when you start messing with. Click finals really. It is an amazing piece of software that will get your entrepreneurial sales creative juices flowing. Don't take my word for it. Go try it for free right now. If you go to CLICK FUNNELS DOT COM SLASH MR G. They will let you try it for free if you want to hear another hustler story. I interviewed Russell. Brunson founder of Click finals. That interview is on that Web page. Click FUNNELS DOT com slash mixture. Listened to all the different business ideas that he admired when he was growing up and the ones that he created as he was figuring out what to do with his life and then he found finally found a click funnels interviewed about that whole process band. Frick tastic interview one of my best ever. And so I urge you to go to click funnels dot com slash mixer. Detri- his software for free. Listen to my interview with him get your creative juices going and create something. Good right now is the time to do it. Click onnell's dot com slash mixer. Gee Why can't you know what I used to say do? This is no kidding. I used to say in my past interviews. People are going to be listening to my interviews and then coming back here and doing interviews in the future about how they built businesses Wallace. That has happened over and over again. They're going to be people who are listening right now since the hell let's go try. Click funnels they go created. Click funnels landing pages. Start selling stuff. It starts to take off. They're going to be here doing interviews with me in the future and I'm putting it on record right now and I'm looking forward to talking to them all right. I gotTa Stop Talking About Myself. Let's talk about the uncomfortable situation you got arrested for so I got arrested. Technically twice So let's go back to the hustlers mentality of always looking for ways to make a dollar. When I was going into eighth grade I had two things going for me. The I was I had a major chip on my shoulder so again when I was going to school for the first time I remember my first week fourth grade. I was out on the playground recess. Replaying dodge ball and this kid at called me a racial slur effectively. And what was it? He called me a beaner. A. K. A. L. I guess that's like a Mexican reference. Okay yeah is at an end so that became like a thing. That was what I was called for a few weeks and I remember going home and I didn't even know what that meant like. Why are they calling this? And they're really interested in being kids anymore and so I did like for a few weeks. I ignored it and again. The same group of kids like they kept calling as kept communists. Only a Weirdo island holes in my shirt. Tell me I dress like a poor kid like just things like that and I remember like we were playing dodd goal again. I remember taking a ball and I smoked this kid in the face so hard like he was crying and I felt so good and I was like wow like the answer to this is if anyone believe me like I just come out with violence and so I went through fifth and sixth and seventh grade. I probably got ten fifteen bytes. Ooh I was consistently getting suspended in. Most of these were like again. I was never a bully. I was not someone that was going out and looking for these but at the same time I definitely jumped the gun so it was like anyone said anything to me that I was offensive. I answered out violence and so it wasn't a huge deal when I was in elementary school in terms of like I never heard anyone. I was a little scrawny at but then in eighth grade I was wrestling. I was starting to get bigger going through puberty and says maybe two or three months of this year I ended up getting into a fight where I actually really really hurt. Someone and I didn't mean to Wasn't intentional but I ended up getting expelled from school for it. So this is something that disrupted the school day no ineffectively was very traumatizing experienced he embraces and when. I hit him. It like knocked out for his bottom teeth and so there were like there was blood all over the school in all over the carpet and and I was traumatized you know. I had to like fifteen stitches in my hand. Boneless sticking out at it was like it was something. I never been delayed usually. This is like someone says to me. Understand my suspended bridge as they have a black. I am happy that never talk to you. And yet whatever and it went to like I was in handcuffs and the principal's office. My parents are coming in You know I was like traumatized and I to this day. I saw just an athlete with that family. I mean I made them very quickly with them on. This was something that like to this day. Me and get this happened actually friends and look back on it and kind of laugh. 'cause it was just so stupid but Dow what kind of Blake started my demise. I was doing other things that that ultimately ended up getting four so I was selling marijuana. I ended up getting so I was. I was spelled verse semester. I was forced to go into anger management. I was put on probation for year I did not end up having to spend the night and do not attention to stay there for processing And then second semester. Let me come back under the expectation. That if I were to get in any trouble they would expel me again and so second semester. I got caught selling weed and the bathroom to another one friends and at to not only was I expelled within when I got arrested. I felt a drug test. You knows they're getting expelled was a violation of probation Tests was a violation and ask and basically like I thought my life was over. I remember I was sitting in the front seat of Police. Cruiser in engulfs all the way to do now attention. All go through. My mind is like what is wrong with you. You know I was thinking about like what my parents are going to think you know. Specifically woman mom was sick. She was working so hard to ski BOOT ON DATELINE EAR. I am like getting myself arrested in heading the Gel on his adding additional stress in so I was actually incarcerated for almost two months when I got out. I was on house arrest. Formal House rests with the bracelet on for six and it was the most brutal eight months of my life and in the two month specifically I mean you now. Detention is is jail. I like you're in a astle yourself sleeping on a slightly bounded mattress with bars in brick walls like it is not it's not just like a daycare facility and so. I actually had like two months to really meditate Lincoln. I love a two-month meditation I got to reflect on all the poor decisions that I had made and and really kind of a reset and I I was when I got out there I was gonNA turn my life around and so I got out I again. It was on six months Algebra so I had another six months to reflect because I wasn't allowed to see friends. I was luckily the House on the only time I was allowed to leave to go to church every other Sunday with my dad when he asked me for the weekend and all I did so every other Sunday I would go in the US group and I had a house Rizla goal and a little monitor around my waist and and it was embarrassing humiliating. My Dad forced me to go to teach me a lesson and like I look back on that and I think that a lot of people go through life and they do similar things like people get advice. People sold drugs people do drugs. A lot of people don't get caught in a long time. There's no reset And so they get so deep in this where like by the time they get caught or whatever. It's too late to turn back and I think meeting caught was like the best thing that ever happening from an like anger management standpoint like being able to really address the reason why I was always looking for fights and on the flip side of like being arrested and really reflecting on the way the path that I was added Mike where I wanted to go on future. While you're in under house arrest. I heard you used that time. Well what did you do from home? Yeah so my older brother. I don't do you remember a service called cha-cha so it was like yes. You four two to four two. You could ask them a question. Yes it was. The whole idea was people have their phones. They should be able to text a question in and they will get an answer and it was human beings on the back end. Who are going to get that answer. I don't remember where what their business model was going to be or what but it was a future. They're going to beat Google. I still look back on it. I'm curious to know what their model is for money. It was free and and they were paying the people to research and answer these questions and you had to do it under a minute. So so my brother is he. He actually was that he did on the side perform and he would let me use his account and so I had to do like whole day of training. I mean there was a there was like seminars videos that I watched through that basically told you how to use Google issue Again like this tax would come through. There was little back in Nash or the ended. The goshen would come through. It would tag it with what it was about firemen. Whatever and then it would. It would basically run you through scenarios of like okay. Here's how you find the answer to this question with cited sources in under a minute in so I did not like every single is something that I thought was extremely fun in to this day like. It was one of the best tools that I ever had like for me. I people always ask her like. Oh did you go to school? Whatever in we'll go back in college like I did end up topping out but the most valuables that I've ever learned was how to efficiently use Google Because you have the whole world at your fingertips and almost any answer. You're looking or I. We live in a world with seven billion people. There's always going to be someone else that's been through something similar. Maybe not the exact same thing result. He knew how to formulate the question. Like you can pretty much find up very very close. Answer Toy you're looking for in second. What's IT GONNA trick that you've got? I'll give you one of mine. Whenever somebody tells they did something at a certain year I just will search for them in that company and I- restrict the search to the year that they did it. By what were they? Or if I'm interviewing someone who was re who said they were successful years and years ago I might search for that period of their lives and look for their name and see what they were really up to and it's kind of fascinating to to get a sense of what they were like or to see that they really weren't doing much. They started to change their Their history a little bit and they were trying to use me to help them change their history. What's what's one tool the use for Google specific as is their search tool that? You're especially proud of no. It's just standard googling. You learn how to do all under minute okay and so you were making money working from home and at some point you decided. I'm keeping a journal of all my different ideas right and go ahead. Sorry of now I just so the journal I mean I always had a when I considered a it was really just a notebook that I would like drop different ideas and whatever It wasn't until junior year of high school that I actually chaps an idea journal so this was something that I documented like every so in any scenario that I was in light I would just jot down broad ideas business ideas ways to make money whatever In that really evolved over time into like what I? I don't currently do this to be honest. I'm so number but before permitted evolved into a full-blown idea books I would. I would write down an idea for a product or service. I would do research on existing products or services in that space out right. Don would be different. What would be similar? I would write down like through? I think the target audience lies outright down like how do I think the market was look up numbers or existing companies in the space to see what type of revenue the big players reviewing. Just things like back to like really just validate. That was a good idea. You know if it was an existing market like the room for someone else to come in really make us laugh something like that so it was something that I started early on in a deep ball into something much more APPs but it was something that that for me was really really helpful because my brain is in a million different places all the time like I might have a really cool thought in five minutes later. I can't remember what it was and I can never recover so I to this day like I keep very notes at the calendar. That's it's very in depth of like when I do prioritize. That is a buggy that we're running late here organized. Good so then. What was the idea for broom like in your journal? How did you come up with this idea? So the idea for roommate so I just turned twenty one. I started getting into craft beer. Brewed Indiana called Sunday a only did craft beer and my favorite beat Roxie older beer. But my favorite beer specifically came in sixteen ounce gains and I was at Indy. Five hundred Had Sixteen ounce can veer sunsetting criminal in. I remember like every single beer. Might these are like for five dollars apiece. So it's not cheap and I remember every single beer that I would crack. Open the last quarter or half. The beer would be warm at the time I finished over like beating. Heat Ninety degrees humid and I like. I will warm burkle beer. I cannot stand more merely it even changes a few degrees. I can't drink and so I would just pour the beer out and grab another one like as I got a little bit older like really throughout that year You know I was going to like more public events where you could drink so like tailgating at concerts and things like that and I noticed everyone was doing same thing like I would go tailgating and I'd walk around and there was beers littered everywhere that were half full like people would just leave them in rob another one of those coal and I remember jotting down like in my notebook and it was just way to keep sixteen ounce cans cool like that was what this entire thing started with and so I went home. I did a little bit of research. I found that no one was making anything for sixteen ounce cans. Not even the neoprene cousy like the cheap one. Someone's you get from like a wet Al's like wow like no-one's created anything for this within the second part of exercise of Okay One Howard. I even create this. What would it be out things like that? And then to is this a product people actually buy in as they did more and more research. I kind of continued to validate the idea and as a roommate was my third cup running another company at the time. And so this is just a side project in mind you late. I had a lot of side projects that I would still work on even when I was working on my other fulltime businesses. So I'm like a year before that. Lsu Business Naughty Alexia during the holidays reviewed ship Ersan coal and a note from Santa Claus anywhere in the world and it like went viral. It was all over up like we are on National Geographic Washington host and Huffington post and the daily dot like all kinds of places went viral. Says always looking for like science projects. It was fun for me to continuously like start new things. Even if it wasn't gonNA be something big in so roommate started off at like this is just the side project but it was the first project where like. I was really able to give my creative juices flowing with my other businesses You know I I had starting a business for me was fun but I was always looking for business where I could take a concept idea on an acre to prototyping and creating a product that never existed before when solving a problem in the in game was like to be able to walk around and see people using this product. Eventually that to me was the coolest idea our was like walking around. And I do this like you can ask my girlfriend. I was at city park two days ago three days ago and I was walking around and I literally saw someone using one of my products. They walk by me and I was like that. And they're like yeah and we started talking and I I did at the very end of the conversation was like. That's my company like we're actually headquartered here in Denver and Rhino. I give people Thuban 'cause whatever belt it's really fun for me. It's able to walk around and see people using this. And then like get their feedback without them. Having any idea of and I want like good or bad feedback. I mean. It's a way for me to get really unbiased. You back they hate it. I WANNA know all. I don't know what he said. I'm going to create it but you also said I WANNA make sure people buy it before I'd really launch it. Let me take a moment. Talk about my my second sponsor and come back and see what you did to test this and then why that didn't end up being the first product you launched. My second sponsor is a company called hostgator. I've talked about this Law Dylan Net before Mickey I created a bunch of just random things to one of the project was Libyan. I when we got married. We bought a domain Andrew in Libya dot com. One day. We said yes use it. We're walking through San Francisco through excuse me Washington. Dc At the time and said you know would be fun if we talked to all these strangers who come to Santa. Keep saying San Francisco if we talked to all these strangers who come to Washington. Dc and see. What do they care about? What are they excited about? What are they love? Because the two of us were in love star are and so we went to the craft store. We bought this big sheets of paper. We bought a bunch of markers and we talked to a stranger. And we said we'RE GONNA love project we'd like to see what you love and would you mind writing it on this piece of paper and we'll take a picture of you in front of the Capitol building. Whatever we did. It took a bunch of photos of a bunch of people and had them write down what they loved him that afternoon. I think I launched a website where we talk where we showed pictures of the people who we met and what they loved. I think I only posted three out of the thirty people or so that I meant but what I got out of. It was a website. That really sucks. There's no reason for anyone to go to that. There's like there's no future in it but I learned how to put up a website. Facet wasn't a big deal that you created and see where it goes and be okay with failing which means that. The next idea doesn't have to be a great idea. You can just try it out if you're listening to me and you haven't launched a website yet or it's been awhile since you launched a website or you just want to do something to get your creative juices flowing. I really urge you to go over to hostgator dot com slash mix or if you select that middle option that they have on that page. You can launch unlimited domains. Do and I did have hosting package. Come up with an idea launched. Its if you like it learns something. Close it up and then the next time you have idea it won't be such a big deal to be able to launch a website for that and then see what happens. You're goes let it become a thing that you play with like a sketchbook for an artist hostgator dot com slash mixture. When you use that site. They'll give you one hundred dollar ad credit from Google. They'll give you on metered Disc no why. Am I going to go through the features every time I I do these ads? Dylan I feel like I should tell people all the features and then I start angle. Who gives a rat's ass just go and you'll get all the features you need for really low price hostgator dot com slash mix or the lowest price that they have available on that Url. And yes of course you will be supporting me and I appreciate that. Thank you Dylan. What did you do to test to see if anyone gave a rat's ass about having cold beer while I knew i Dave Roberts asked about cold beer and I knew that I couldn't be the only person so I started my birth? Like just seeing it. This was something like if I was a Weirdo for only drinking beer. Or if this was something that a lot of people kind of resonated with than in my brain groups and being like everyone's like Alex seems like a great idea and so from there You know I had already had a A slight background in digital marketing already created our own shop by stores. I had already ran like this guy and stuff like that then so I was like what like most people would start a starlike. That's pretty good validation tool but I didn't wanNA give up platform bees and I didn't really want when you create a case study really after a lot of money and time into that leg. I I don't WanNA spend a lot of money and time on this. I have another business around like I'm just trying to figure out if you actually buy it. So I had worked with the local engineer in Indiana that I had known through purdue worked with him to kind of take their initial sketch that I had created in model in create the initial concept and then I took that to a graphic designer and said hey voters shop this into people's hands for me and then I created a small landing page where biscuit described. What Arctic was what it did and you could sign up to be notified knows available and so that was what I did on one side of things. The other thing I did was dunking in Indiana. So this breed. That really likes start at this. Old Thing I went into their in. I was a cake. Can I talk to the founders? Just from minute there like after that it will We had a beer now Z. Hey listen night I had. This problem created idea this product. Would you guys like be willing to brand this and put it in your store because they have they closed door with a bunch of Song Game? Nice seems like a really cool idea. We love to do it so I got them to commit for like two hundred forty units like. I don't remember anything of Twenty five hundred dollars and so so. That was like one side of allegation. The other one was I collected a few thousand miles on facebook. You know for people that were interested in this at this point I feel I. It's not a huge risk. I knew that there were different levels to this product in terms of the functionality and futures that I wanted to have But I knew I could create a really like crappy version of it for pretty cheap and so that's what I did. I went out to China. This is not like China aside. My son was when I was nineteen again. Had A bag on it sourcing I knew how to find. A manufacturer kind of navigate states that. I went out about him. Any factor took the initial concept. I paid by thousand dollars for the Earth Mold. We had one thousand units created and when those came in Sun Kings took two hundred forty them other seven hundred sixty sold out two weeks and I was like. Wow like people really like this this idea truly resonates people but then all. The emails started flooding in like. Hey this is a great concert and people knew they were getting like I told them. This is just the first version you know like I told the story but I got a lot of really cool feedback from people that knew there early adopters and emailed me about the things they liked and didn't like product than some of it was soft already on the horizon the final product and some stuff that I hadn't even thought about like what just the gasket design that we had at the time kind of got in the way when you drink so whenever you take a sip of kind of hit your mouth So we the gasket is at rubber thing that hold onto the lid right so on hops later specifically I have when I knew. Grab if you WANNA see it. But there's a rubber gasket screws on Aznar push lock technology so it basically uses a combination of friction instruction again inside and then it'll hold it in place right. Upside down on wall fallout but the concept was different. It was actually you put the Cannon Zaid and then screw a gasket on top of it that would secure it in so when you take a sip of it like the cousy would actually hit your face. The beer can like it was getting in the way and it wasn't something I noticed like I'm not that particular our wasn't at the time and Insulting okay so we ended up coming up with our troy design which has interiors rides and stuff like that scum below what we call lip lion. So it's on the fan when it starts curving that's where you're kind of Johnson created in our second version. It's blow the lip line so it doesn't interfere but that was one-sided things another one was like at the bottom of stainless steels when you set it down on the table or whatever else it would either scotch at the table or make a clinking sound. Yeah so we introduced like the rubber based on that the non-slip base Some people said bite the hand Cylinders when you hold Aggregrate grip to it. So we introduce like handgrips so just things like that but it was a lot of really good feedback. We're on version three right now. Some of that was introduced Birgitta. Someone someone's introduce version three by but really like this allowed me to validate the idea in ultimately it just proved to me that this was like much bigger than actually thought it was and so I really started thinking about this in terms of I wanted to create a real business around and so I started really like my goal is to become a professional at inside a drill. I wanted to know every single manufacturer. I WanNa know every single brand. That was out there. I wanted to know what they are creating. I wanted to know what the professionals were saying. In terms of like what? The growth of this category is going to be like the next ten years It wait they're professionals. Who Tell you what the growth is in this category. There's Marketwatch's where you can look at individual sectors of so for instance in housewares drink whereas one of the fastest growing sectors of that and insulated drink Greta subsector and so there are reports online. You can go and find that talk about white like in slater drink where it has been for the last ten years rejecting it to be and things like that. It's I use that. To kind of wise insulated. Drink wear growing as a category two things. So insulated drink whereas a whole has been around for a while It was mainly used for coffee on so for Garmin says and things like that but the technology Jillian realized applications that it could be used for outside of work drinks so ultimately introducing drinks both in that category specifically like the fastest growing area when I started this business and still to this day is actually the hydration category and so you have the ecoconscious individual who actively wants to stop using single use by Kratos or looking for viable alternative Go and so. That's kind of where the rise of this came into When I came in the market I saw that and I was like this is a fast growing sector. Everyone wants ecoconscious way to drink. Water and and people are starting to see the benefits of this technology. But what I noticed was everyone was applying Freidrich. It was for watering coffee. And so I came in and I said I'm GonNa create the dehydration category so I'm going to create the hydration break. Where and so our slogan is accompanied became the Dehydration and always folks on is ultimately like creating a better drake experienced drink. Wear that is designed just beverages so we just books on out. We're not trying to compete with other people in the space. We're not making water bottles or coffee mugs in and that was something that really resonated with our like we become synonymous with the best of the best when it comes to like keep your out all chill of. There's something that I wanna ask you about. Every other person who I've interviewed who creates a physical product seems to have had a hell of a time having it created in some Chinese factory. That was the wrong one that had mistakes. You're smiling. You didn't have that because you've found an interesting way to figure out who was the right manufacturer to work with. Who Wasn't talk about that? This kind of feeds into how you became resourceful and a good A good at searching Yup so this is something I discovered my second business. Actually I'm it's called board examiner and so you can go in and you can search your competitors. It's busy it's not the figure out what business name they are. Some people are under a DB a figure like what the corporation that would be in order and then you can look up their import records for customs in bigger out. You can actually see the bill of lading so you can see who their manufacturers and so I use that tool in both roommate Business to figure out who all the big players in my space. We're using for manufacturers with told me two things one they're capable of cruising our products to I knew these companies that I already bronx which made the manufacturer that I was going to visit. Had strict quality control measures in place already and in three stumpings were big so I knew that they could scale with and that they probably had the engineering capabilities. And so I think that like I think he is I always tell people. If you're looking to develop a product a lot of people will start within a designer in the US. Treat the product first and then they'll take that to manufacturer adds a whole another layer of complexity because oftentimes league the industrial designer. Work Mistake side doesn't understand the manufacturing capabilities of the product that they're creating in so an icon this out the hard way actually so when I took my initial design and then they're like began. Make this whatever we're not found over time was As long as you can a manufacturer that one is fittings. You know you're working with someone that's already worked with similar companies in your space. That's a great indicator and seconds. Do they have an in house engineering because if they do most of the time they'll model increase these things for free so you're not paying money to do that because they want to get you as a customer they want you to pay for molding these things that And to the first version of the product is going to be able to be manufactured because they know what the limitations are convinced the way that like I thought optronics sourcing and manufacturing into a much easier way of doing things and and I had a lot of help guide through this and they really great results with kind of following those things which is binding manufacturer. That's already worked with someone so armee space at night. You believe in and on the flip side of things make sure them in announced engineering team and work with them directly. It's the product created because it's going to speed things up way way quicker and you're gonNA save a lot of money and it all starts with a site called Port Examiner right it examines. What's coming into our ports and so if I was interested in competing with Yeti for example by the way the reason I'm coming up with the ideas apparently people search for Yeti to end up on your website had been looking to see what. Sasha traffic looks like boy I could see who they use and then call up that company that factory talk to them see if they have somebody who could take my idea from paper and designed for me and then if they can I like it. They'll manufacturer. Am I picking up on pretty much? I am okay so you had it. You didn't though launch with sorry with the what was it called to hold onto sorry obsoleted hops later. You decided to start to pursue wine. I with the Weinstein later. Why did you come up with the Weinstein later? I also the Hawks later actually getting first idea for it did her soft launch game before the lines later did too but our first big lunch was the winds later and so basically I had turned for. That people wanted this product. I went back to the manufacturer and said Hey these old abusers that I want it to happen so that was like eight or nine months for us to go from the final product which launched in two thousand seventeen and so I had a lot of downtime and again I was running another company but At the time I didn't WanNa just sit on my hands for nine ten months until this. The Vinyl version was ready to relaunch as I was looking for other product ideas and I was on spring break. I gotTA drinking ticket for having glass on the beach and I was like there's got to be. I had a y model specifically in. There's gotta be a way to enable people to bring winds the beachside. You can't rewind to the beach So what does everyone drink when they're at the Beach By in in in her so I give the lines later started as choosy for wine. So is actually something that went around it and then what I found authors. A bunch of research was that even if you cover the glass that you could still get a ticket for having air so like just having For instance could still get your dreaming ticket in Daichi of the wines later was actually a canteen that you would for your wine inside of and it would navigate around glass free zones. Allow you to bring wind places where wine traditionally can go and then also would keep it perfectly Joe for twenty four hours. You didn't need is you can literally feel up this bottle of wine or the wines later. I in Jordan a backpack or bag or whatever and twenty four hours choked so made it transportation much easier to it so for the product you know it was. I thought it was a fantastic idea. And I- validated the exact same Validated the operator. So I created a landing page. I had the model created. I added Photoshop into people's hands. I directed people to the landing base design up for their email for email to be notified when it was available we collected seven thousand emails and I was like wow okay. We collected over twice as many Obsolete her you know people clearly like San in so I ordered seven thousand units and I didn't think I was GONNA sell all of them but like right up front to the seven thousand people because if you like seven thousand emails you're lucky. If by five percent of those people actually converts customers unless a very very high audio leads on facebook. Instagram is hard to get in. So yeah I mean I ordered. Seven thousand units came the day after Black Friday twenty sixteen. We sold out in two weeks. Three hundred thousand dollars in sales and at that point. That was when I was like Ogun. Selling everything like getting rid of milder business they remain is what I want to focus on. It had all things I wanted like. It didn't just have the excitement of creating new business. Romy had the excitement of being able to develop new products. Which was something I've been yearning for all my life. I always wanted to be an inventor. That was what I was literally going to school for. And this is the first time rose able to utilize that passion in a way that had been able to do before and so then I really dove in headfirst February two thousand seventeen. We launched our insight white last series so idea behind that was okay yoga way to transport wine to the beach. Are you drinking out of plastic? Call because you're not bringing wind gusts to the beach. An Aso are answers. That was creating a insulated travel. Tumbler for wine. That was US. Resign from And that was a huge success. We went from. You know I think the first match. We're doing preorder designing so. I would have people pay for this uprising. South Bay the manufacturer deposit and then. I would run the preorder a week just to get rough estimates on what we're GONNA do. Continue running the preorder or the product end ship expression bitten by air so rather than going by CEO. I would airship again on a lanes government like three or four days and then I was shipping out to people And it was very expensive but it allowed us to not take any funding. It allowed us to grow quickly without really having to put it. It's on a money. The company and Yeah. I mean that was when I I sold everything. I sold my House. I sold ours type into inventory. Yeah the inventory. If doing just been doing preorder limiting our growth. You're constantly rely on other people so thankfully like preorder the product and it wasn't a great experience like from a customer service standpoint. You know some people didn't understand what preorder was even though. It was like very clear what we were doing like. It was like preorder shifts in ninety days. Whatever people Baffles me? They don't read that stuff in so we you know. Ten percent of the customers were like mad and everything else and I don't WanNa do reorders anymore and I think I've proved a concept enough where I'm ready to go in our so. I sold my house and this was the House that I bought with the money from the first business that I sold. Spent like year remodeling whenever Had some sentimental value to me I also like Berry Berry. Invested in roommate enzyme With remain reality. Eight Hundred Square foot apartment in Indiana. We're splitting the rent. It was like four hundred dollars a month now and like every single biddy that I had was going back into the company and I mean that right there was what allowed us to really stale. I mean as soon as I injected. Gosh into the business We'RE ABLE TO START STOCKING. Dorian really ramping things up so and to get customers from what I understand you by the way if I keep looking down here it's because I don't have my ipad positioned in a good position so that you could see it but at times I just frigging lost in the design like it's it's not just the design of the products. But it's also the photos that you've got on the site it's like there's there's an aesthetic there. There's just beautiful like the frigging is maker. I got tons of things that make ice. I like how you make this ball of ice in a nice little design thing. I can't stop looking at it. Look even just show you even if I look at your old site doesn't look nice like aren't you proud of that It just changed the image on me right. It looks good. Who's designing all these cups being? So I'm in charge of Browning design and then ultimately I oversee our entire marketing team so those are the two things that I'm really good at and those are the two things that I really enjoy doing everything else. We are really fantastic. People on our team the analyst. Why Talk About Promotion? Sorry I I know we've spent so much time here but I don't WanNa miss out on promotion. You've tried from what I understand. Everything influencers on instagram buying ads on Instagram snapchat. What was surprisingly inexpensive thing that worked for you? Well so early on facebook and instagram were always like the winning channels and there really to this day. They still are. But I think it's important as you continue to grow that you make sure that air reaching customers across all channels In that you're also not reliant on one platform so for us that was diversification of a digital ads. Just making sure that we weren't Putting all the money in facebook and instagram. Because what happens if something happens to facebook and instagram. Then guess what were out of business so I spent really the last year and a half working with a ton of different channels so we work podcast Influencers we had. Tv campaigns created and launched on both actual TV and od. And like Hulu and things like that We we've done youtube ads. We've done our starting to get into tick tock. We DID SNAPSHOT. We've done pinterest. Google Day you pay people on to talk to advertising platform similar to snapchat and then they also have our starting to work with to talk influencers. I'm the same way out there the ads that I see on tick tock are the ones that come up when I load up the APP. Right it just comes up. You also have once. They're very inconspicuous. But they'll pop up as you're scrolling through okay now and you guys make those. I'd knock early so that's something that we're just getting into actually fairly new platform but what we found really really worked for US was snapchat. Instagram FACEBOOK GOOGLE. An influencer marketing. Like what about this? I was looking to see what your traffic was coming from on similar web. I saw that you were getting traffic. From Oetzi. Means people are buying it on Oetzi yet while so we sell to retailers and the retailers will resell own ad see with customization so the do like monogrammed engraving Spurs. That won it for like weddings or events or things like that and then I saw Ebay strangely on on your search. Donnie Bay If you go on Ebay when it actually is people that I. They're not retailers for us. They just released our products for like a ten percent up charge on Ebay If the person by on Ebay Shifts Ramaz it's really confusing and there's no way for us to stop in good In Amazon's very big channel. I two but you're not doing any advertising on Amazon. It's just people happen to know about you. And they go to Amazon and search. We do not drink any outside Traffic Amazon. But we advertise within the platform for both branded terms and In though are paid advertising makes up about thirty percent of our revenue on other. Seventy percent is organic from people that are searching for our products or or on the flip side to searching. Or you know you're talking about earlier how we already so the majority of our products be outranked everyone and so when you go to Amazon and just type in beer juicy like were the first product ops off by the way. I can't believe you can still use the word cousy. Cousy is registered trademark of whose e something corporation and from what I understand. They're pretty aggressive right now. So we don't actually use it in any of our marketing. A brand new in our conversation. Here you've been using conversation guy so I'm just saying if you search for Beer. Two Zero S up. What if you look at the product listener? Anything there's not like we don't use the word cousy and yes they do. Enforce that reality. We used to use it only in our ads. So we'd say like the best you're on the planet things like that and they send us like a season saying. Hey James I I don't like big. It's Big Big Corporation owns that that treat Mario. They're pretty aggressive about it. My friend for her wedding. The I guess for the rehearsal. Dinner gave everyone a cousy but it wasn't officially cousy says she wrote. She just wrote the name. She blocked it out cousy as a joke. Because they'll even go after. I guess wedding organizers. Anyway one one less thing I noticed that you also use affiliate programs and you told our producer about your ambassador program. How does that work? That seems to be delivering some customers to affiliate so we do A. Are you familiar? 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Average 401(k) Balance by Age: Are You Behind?

The Money Guy Show

51:26 min | 1 year ago

Average 401(k) Balance by Age: Are You Behind?

"4._0._1._K balance the avenue off. How do you measure up with your peers man? Do we have answers free today? It's Brian Preston. The money guy restoring order to your financial chaos retired investing taxes. You got financial questions. He's got financial answers. It's Brian Preston. The money guy nailed it. Did awesome. Yeah. So today's show we're gonna to almost like I'm a professional, it's like Esther. It's like you've been doing this for a while. Brian precedence over the answers are going onto decades right now. So here's the thing. I'm excited about this show, by the way, this is number two three shows were recording on a marathon, recording day and you guys know when we create content we like to create content. That's fills actionable that, you know what's going to happen, but there's a difference. Sometimes we come up against content that the advice, you want to give a twenty year old is completely different than the advice you wanna give for a fifty year old. So we've come up with this series of what you should have at each age or benchmark of your life, and you've seen it, we've done, what your networks should be what's your habits should be by what your mistakes could be done, what your debt could be so this thing. So I like to think this is a money guy echo. That is now coming about. In the personal finance world. And this is a sole an article in a Senate out to the team here. And there was an article that was actually an investor pedia on what average four one K balances are, by age it, the reason I think that that's such a such a valuable thing for us to cover his all the time. We have a potential clients reach out to us, and whenever we have someone young and young, they're not at financial independence. They're not at the D cumulation phase of their life. There's always two questions that they want to know. Where am I am I head of the curve, and mama? Hind the curve on the curve, don't even know where the curve is in where my headed if I'm in the right or wrong place. Am I moving towards the place that I want to be, well, you kind of have to know where everyone else is? And where you should be you can assess M I on-track where all supposed to be, and we're going to cover all that even have some cool findings because here's the other thing, I thought was interesting. A lot of this data when I found the invest pedia article I realize that fidelity had re released a research report that a lot of people pout on. We had nerdwallet got in on it Bank rate got in on it. And then, of course, we have the, the actual findings from the fidelity research, piece it really gave a lot of data. It's go. Let us dive into the age stuff. But I wanted to share some other interesting information. The fact that rose, we are ten years, removed from the great recession. Yeah. Yeah. We are over ten years from the bottom of the market back in March. Select upon. In fidelity did that? And why is fidelity a great kind of steward of the data for four one ks? The reason is because they are the largest four one K provider in the United States, pretty much, if you work for a fortune five hundred company, you probably have a fidelity for one. We have a lot of clients come to us that have fidelity four one ks and we've seen what the what they have to offer. So it's great that they have all this data that they're able to look at. So they, they did a research piece that they added to what's going on by age where they talked about what happened what we're account balances in two thousand nine first quarter two thousand nine what are account balances? Now, if you fast forward because real first quarter two thousand nine was the bottom moderate recession because it was like March six March seventh of two thousand nine was the low of low of what was going on in the marketplace. So severe we are first quarter twenty nineteen. What's the compare and contrast them? And here's what the big takeaway for you guys at like just cut through the chase. Staying the course is rewarding. That's what that's what the fact is, we always say that. But we actually have some anecdotal case study evidence that in fact, if you stayed the course from our last downturn, you were awarded for that now rose, let me give it some perspective, because I won't these numbers to kind of have some depth to them. So you know what's going on two thousand eight was the, the beat up year that you look on statistically? When you look at the years, performances, you look at two thousand and what happened is because he s and p five hundred lost thirty seven percent, but that wasn't the rest of the story, if you actually expanded that from two thousand seven all the way to the low of two thousand nine which was like I said in early March of two thousand nine the SNP actually had a period of time that was down fifty seven percent. So you heard me right. That was fifty seven percents lost well over half of its value. So a lot of people. Going. So what's the rest of the story because if you're an accumulator, if you're a saver, a lot of you guys, when you hear this data, I want you to get like giddy? Well, you just said, run the market got cut in half it is, and you're going to get excited about that. So how do you the way you get excited about his realize, when you're a retirement savings 4._0._1._K's, how do they fund you fund a monthly? I've known young get paycheck, that money's going into your 4._0._1._K every month that the S and P five hundred was getting its teeth kicked in two thousand eight two thousand nine you buying in a few more shares with that same dollar amount. Assuming you stayed the course. So it turns you into a financial mutant in the fact that volatility is your friend, if you're doing dollar cost averaging and that's exactly what four one ks did. So let me give you the rest of the story because a lot of you guys will have plans. And you think you won't have it figured out? But then you have something like a two thousand eight two thousand nine and it totally throws you for a loop. And it's why won't you stay with us? We will inoculate you. This is the value of a good financial advisor is that we actually help you stay the course because a lot of you guys doing it yourself, you think you've got it all figured out, and then thousand eight two thousand nine happens. And then you're reminded of the Mike Tyson, quote, which is everybody has a plan until you get punched in the math is true through. So there's a lot of people that think they can do whatever. But here's the rest of the story, if you're staying, the course is rewarding because four the overall four one K balances in two thousand nine or fifty two thousand six hundred so that the average 4._0._1._K balance in the first quarter of two thousand across all ages was just under fifty three thousand nine that was right after the market and was at the bottom of its low of low fast forward to first quarter twenty nine thousand nine the average four one K balance now over, all age groups, two hundred ninety seven thousand seven hundred dollars. So, of course, the two hundred ninety eight thousand dollars so it didn't just double or triple. I mean it went up. Four hundred and sixty six percent from Acuna standpoint. So let's kind of I think it's, it's kind of pays the stay. So now, let's kind of relate this to retirement, and 4._0._1._K's in general because a lot of people might be tuning go. I don't four one K at work, but I've never really paid attention to. So there's some other stats fidelity shared with us for twenty nineteen salary deferral limits, nineteen thousand dollars if you're if you're fifty, I didn't say over at INSEE like fifty one if you just fifty or over, you actually have the opportunity to what's called a six thousand ketchup, contribution government wants to encourage you to say now you hate when I do this Brian, but always wanted this out there, because this is something a lot of people. Yes, the limit for doing traditional or Roth contribution to four one K is nineteen thousand dollars if you're under fifty, but in my best, Billy Mays, impersonation. There's more you actually aren't capped at nineteen thousand you did. You know, you can actually put more money into your. Zero one k the nineteen thousand dollars a year. If your plan has specific provisions, if it has after-tax after tax contributions, and then, by the way, guys, and we're not gonna get into this, this show, but this is you might want to reach out to us, if you find out your employer offers after tax contributions as well as inservice distributions. Juggernaut. All my gosh. I got so excited. I think I just blew up the it is a huge savings, opportunity and the word Roth even comes to mind. So we'll we'll keep moving forward. And hopefully I didn't blow up the audio with that. But I want you to also remember, we want you to be saving fifteen to twenty five percent of your gross income for the future in a good place to put it is in your retirement plan. If, if we were doing the show, fifty years ago, we might have said, you should save ten percent of your gross income. They used to be the rule of thumb, but the world has changed a little bit. Now, social security is probably going to change pensions aren't the things they used to be. So now our retirements are now on our shoulders. That's why you have to be doing it in the 4._0._1._K. Just like you said, is one of the number one best vehicles for us to be able to build assets for retirement. And now I want you because a lot of you're going to account, my employer number in that I think if you make less than one hundred thousand dollars. Yes, you can count your employer. If you make more than one hundred thousand dollars. No, you don't get to count. Your employer contribution towards that fifteen twenty five percent going, how Brown. Why are you so stingy? Why don't want to get the count that here's a reason why guys a lot of you are still have access to some type of social security? You might have some other income streams coming into you. So I'm not worried if somebody tells me they just need to retire with fifty thousand dollars a year. I mean social security's, go probably cover half. They talked to that. Yeah. So you don't it doesn't put everything on you. Once you start needing cash flow retirement, it's eighty hundred hundred twenty thousand dollars. That's not coming from social security coming from you, so you need to kind of bone up and know that it's going to be a conservative number the responsibility falls on. You see need to save as much as possible. I did think it was interesting. The data from fidelity was ninety one percent of employs who are auto enrolled don't opt out. This is a big win for employment retirement opportunities at your retirement plan at your employer. There's a whole study done, and I can't remember it was in Denmark, someone donors, organ, donors, the whole organ, donors. It's amazing how powerful this whole opt-out principle is. So if you're a small business owner or if you're someone in HR or less control over how 4._0._1._K's at your company, structured, automatic enrollment is great because sometimes if people need that little nudge, and they're not going to help yourselves man. It's pretty awesome. If you can, if you can nudge them in that right direction because maybe just maybe an auto enrollment might be they get them addicted to saving for the for thirty to forty years in the future. I would love to know if there's a whole group of twenty and thirty year olds start their first job get into these auto enrollment plans and now they're automatic millionaires not because. They're brilliant. But just because some employer had this feature set up on their 4._0._1._K. Also. Here's a great thing. All time highs on both these numbers. So this is something to celebrate and then we'll jump into averages by age all time has a celebrate was the average employer contribution rate is four point seven percent. That's an all time high for four one K plans. So, okay. You guys may not know this when you design a 4._0._1._K plan a lot of people do what's called a safe harbor plan. I won't go into the details of that. But essentially, it allows employer to either do three percent or four percent, depending on the structure against them out of a lot of testing and stuff. What I think is so awesome is that this is actually even higher than the required minimum. So a lot of employers out there, generous and want to see you succeed when it comes to building assets. So here's I found a drum roll or hype button that we could play the horn on. Is that here's the other big number? If you add that four point seven percent, do you know what the average is, if you combine both the employer and the employee contribution? It's third. Thirteen and a half percent. So that means the average employee is put in eight point eight percent into their retirement planning, remember, I said the goals fifteen to twenty five. I know I should probably be scolding you guys because we didn't hit fifteen but all time hobby basis. This is the average American not money got families yours, that's something to kind of celebrate. That's pretty cool. Pretty awesome. If you'd have asked me to guess if the average employer rate is four point seven would have guessed. The average employee rate is six four point seven holiday. They just get the match and don't do anything that is stinking awesome. So that's so there is a trend for increasing the savings. So let's go to I want to move forward. And let's talk about number three. What is the average balanced by age? And let's break this out by twenty year olds thirty year olds forty year olds fifty year olds what should you be doing your 4._0._1._K? So first, let's pick on the twenty year olds. This is the thing. I'll put this in bold face of underlined up, put Asterix. This is the biggest no-brainer for being rich in. In the world. I mean, if you're a you're twenties, and you're not a millionaire, by the time you're in your sixties you have done it all wrong. And the sad thing is the majority will still figure out how to screw this. You said it, right? It is easy to be rich in your twenties. So ease it is easy to be rich in your twenties. And we squander it. We squandered that particular most valuable resource that most of us have is time in the earlier, we can start living at our money working for us. The more valuable that time says this when we were setting everything up for to record this, and because I know a lot of you got your young people or like I just don't have money guys. Life is expensive. I just don't have it. Here's the truth of the matter. You can become rich stinking rich by saving hundreds of dollars in your twenties. You go find when you're in your forties, you can save thousands of dollars and still not be wealthy. That's right. So guys make it happen while you're in your twenties because it really is a vision of heartbreak because. What do you think? Here's something. Here's a stat that I thought was really surprising. And I get mad at you guys who when we run the QNA on the live shows Matt's. The guy who gets the tumblers out king of the tumbler pulled Matt in. I said Matt now he had the answer. He's smarter than me. What do you think the biggest group is taking distributions from 4._0._1._K's, as according to Fidelity's research? Well, I would have thought have been people close to retirement, who just wanna use it to retire people, older people that are taking money out. You know what the biggest group of people that are taking distributions from their four one K is twenty year olds is people twenties, and they're twenty two twenty nine year olds. They're the biggest group that is the biggest vision for heartbreak to me, and the number is forty one to forty two percent of twenty to twenty nine year olds are cashing out their four one K. So I totally know what's going on. When I see that stat is you're probably having some type of career change with your job when you're in your twenties, and instead of rolling that money into an IRA leaving at your current employer. If it's like at a fidelity or something like that, or even rolling it into a brand new employer. A lot of you guys are going, you know what? I'll just take the money. Yeah. Take the money and run first time I'm able to get to it. I'm going to go ahead and grab it and go a disaster because not only do you. Pay income taxes on that money you pay early withdraw and you're robbing your future self of all that compound interest. You can't get rich. If you don't have an army of dollar bills that's out there working for you guys. Right. And I'm telling you ninety five percent of your future selves retirement account could be the capital compound interest. I mean it's really the capital. Yes, it is. It's not you, you only have to you have to put the seed in the ground. Nobody's asking you to make the apples. You just got to put the seed in the ground and the, the money will do the rest of it, unless it's a vision for heartbreak. And that leads me to kind of explain the eighty eight times over because I've done this before it's a broken record. But I think it's important eighty eight times over explained. Is that twenty year olds? This is the stuff that got me into this profession. I want you to realize when you're twenty years old. If you just get the performance of the market, the S and P five hundred I'm trying to get anything crazy here. We're not leveraging it when I put in private investments. We're buying the S and P five hundred which of the five. Hundred largest companies of the United States, you've recognized all these companies if you did that and let your money. Just grow one dollars has potential to turn into eighty eight dollars by the time you're sixty five years of age. That's right. You put in a dollar eighty seven eighty seven dollars of capital gains and then it's going to end income dividends. We have some dividends in its turn into eight dollars. That's incredible. All you do is let that money grow for forty five years and earning, what the S and P five hundred with arm, which is around ten percent a year. Yep. So think about it. That's, that's pretty incredible. So let's put that in real terms of what that means for you have your person who's twenty years old. Let's just say you can start saving two hundred dollars a month that seems reasonable. Right. So that's what's at fifty bucks a month. You fifty bucks a week come fifty bucks a week and you could do it. So two hundred dollars a month growing with the market at ten percent by the time you retire. It's going to be worth close to two point one million dollars. So you not just. A millionaire you're millionaire two times over this didn't have you having any additional pay raises. No bonuses. No better saving. No ketchups. No lottery winnings, nothing, just simply two hundred bucks a month from now until you get a scout our of eight times over. So what you're getting so excited by this, you're saying, what am I gonna do five hundred dollars a month five hundred dollars a month turns into five point two million dollars? It starts getting kind of hard to screw up on independence when you got five millions, everybody who's in their twenties. Ought to be rich yet. So a lot of you. I'm not twenty I didn't get out to college when I was twenty okay twenty five year olds. If you save two hundred dollars a month when you're twenty five you'll have one point to close to one point three million dollars, by the time, you reach sixty five still a millionaire. If you put five hundred dollars a month, you're going to have three point one close to three point three million one hundred sixty two thousand dollars, by the time you retire. That's a pretty good retirement. Unbelievable from doing five hundred dollars a month and you start with your twenty five years old, and here's the other thing, I think is. Awesome that fidelity share sixty eight point nine percent of employers now. Offer Roth as an option, you have a brand that's no good because I'm a young person and I'm doing pretty well. And I have a pretty high income. So I can't do the Roth that doesn't apply to me. No. Young people guys tax free growth, think about that. Eight times growth with tax free growth. Meaning you put a dollar in turns into eighty eight you never pay tax on that eighty seven dollars. That is going to be powerful stuff. So young people in your twenties. I think Roth is your friend, even if you make high income, there's some opportunity for you. You know, there's all kinds of Roth conversion strategies as other thing, even if you have the RAV four one K option your. That's right. You can do it. You can do both a Roth IRA. You can do a Roth four one K. Roth is your best friend take advantage of it, because it's tax free growth. You never pay tax when you pull it out. So let's talk about what the, the numbers are. And I like this because this is your spot. Check. This is going to tell you where am I am I wear, I need to be so Bogo go and give it to them. Yes. So according to the fidelity research, by the time you're thirty you should have half of your annual salary saved. So if you make one hundred thousand dollars a year at thirty years old, you should have fifty thousand dollars saved for retirement. If you make fifty thousand dollars at thirty years old, you should have twenty five thousand safe for retirement, according to Bank rate, from these are just averages this isn't what you should have. This is just what the average is. So we know that it should be Hamsphire, according to Bank rate from ages twenty to twenty nine you should have about twelve now. You not you should have the average twenty to twenty nine year old has eleven thousand eight hundred dollars saved. I hope you have more than that. What about nerdwallet? They had an article on this as well. Nerdwallet said that the average was eleven thousand six hundred the median was actually right around four thousand and then according to invest of pedia based on their TransAmerica center for ten percent. Those are twenty average savings of approximately thirty one thousand dollars. Here's a here's a tidbit, I have to make sure I put this about the investor pedia article I think they included not only four one ks but also are eight. So that's just what they said, your retirement savings would be twenties was a right around thirty one thousand dollars. So that's the only need to make sure clarify. But the biggest thing is that sounds like the averages are right around twelve thousand dollars, according to nerdwallet in Bank rate, the thing that concerns me is, I know people are making a lot more money than twenty to twenty three thousand twenty four thousand dollars a year, so that means right there, my twenty year olds fallen behind. You're an automatic millionaire. If you'll just let your money, do the work so jumped to us. Go ahead. Talk to our thirty year old. Guys. Thirty year old still a lot of opportunity. You don't have to choke up on that bat, too much because there's still a lot of long balls in that bad. If you swing it. So let's talk about this. I was still surprised to find out, I picked twenty year olds because they are the largest group to cash out their goal in ks. And I imagine a lot of it's because they're changing jobs but they're young and they don't know better, surely someone by the thirties. They've got life figured out there a little more mature now. Thirty year olds weren't the biggest will we save that for the twenty year olds but still thirty eight percent of workers who are thirty to thirty nine years of old thirty nine years of age are still cashing out their four one ks when they change jobs. That's a complete disaster, because guess what you probably have worked for, like, ten years, and you have some money actually in the account, and you're still taking it. What are you doing? Buying a car, but Napoleon the backyard's crazy that's horrible. You're going to hate yourself in the future. If you're making bad decisions like that with your retirement account. Remember these things are structured. They're supposed to be retirement. Ask. Us they're supposed to you're going to be able to access them, at least until you get to fifty nine and a half or maybe fifty five q, not even halfway there you are taking your runner out runners out of the race way too soon. We'll give you one more disappointing stat that came from this fidelity research. And then we turn the glass to being half full, the optimistic side of things the other leaking thing that's going on in retirement plans, is that nineteen point nine percent of four one K, participants have outstanding loans, meaning they're borrowing against themselves, and that my fill better that you're instead of borrowing from a Bank, you're borrowing from your retirement account. But guess what? While you're boring that money. You're not getting all that compound in growth of your money, working for you. So I think that's a bad sign. Now, the good news if I could find a little glimmer of happiness, and hope from this data point is that we're actually down from a peak of twenty two point four percent of four one ks or being borrowed from in twenty thirteen worked. So we're a little under twenty. Still too much, though. So, in here's the common reasons for taking loans in a lot of these are. Big can of note? Here we go. Thirty one percent pay down a high interest, credit card debt. Remember this is this is a repeat from broad credit card debt, does not exist. Credit card debt, does not exist. If you were running a credit card balance you're doing it. All wrong credit cards are paid off monthly if you can't pay them off monthly cold Turkey. You don't get to have a lot love it. Is that what you were going to say? No, I was gonna say the exact same thing. I I like that. You're paying off high interest debt. You shouldn't have high interest debt is bad, people who are successful my don't struggle with paying off credit cards to get yourself out of that bad habit. Twenty four percent of home or using that money for home taking loans for home improvements or repairs now. Okay, so repairs, maybe I could get that because sometimes life happens, but home improvements if you have to go borrow from your future financially, independent self to improve your house, you really. Should think about is this an improvement that really needs to be made or might not need to save for this and do a lighter home improvements bad. How about twenty one percent just to buy a home or refinance a mortgage? Ooh, he had also not ideal and then nineteen percent just the pay outstanding bills. You know what I just needed to pay bills deal? That's probably a surefire. Sign your living outside your means and one of the three pillars of being financially independent is living in less than you make living inside your me. So let's talk about what you're shorting yourself. Let's talk about what your opportunities for your army of dollar bills and what they could be doing for you. If you actually let them work for you. Now, remember for my twenty year olds I said, what happens? What do you have? If you save two hundred dollars a month. Guess what? You don't get to do that in your thirties. You're past that point. We gotta put a little bit more to work to get it to get the same reaction. So we're going to start with five hundred dollars a month thirty years of age, and you work until you're sixty five now you don't get to make exactly what the stock market does because that's what twenty year olds get to do. They get to do the S and P five hundred and probably compound. Around ten percent, thirty year olds here at nine percent because you gotta start got Ekin a little more vacation because you're getting a little bit older. So a thirty year old that saving until they're sixty five earning around non percent a year, five hundred dollars ago, turn to what close to one point five million dollars. One million four hundred seventy one thousand dollars, but they'll just say five hundred dollars a month. And again, this was no pay raises no increases in income. No increases bonus. No additional saving that to me seems so so, so incredibly doable, because if you think about five hundred dollars a month that is only six thousand dollars a year. And if you take six thousand dollars a year you divide that by what twenty percent that somebody makes thirty thousand dollars a year that seems very doable. Somebody's is doing thirty thousand dollars a year that can save twenty percent at thirty years old. You're on your way to having a million and a half dollars. So kick it up at seven hundred and fifty dollars a month if you saving that for your future self is going to turn into two point two million dollars credible. By the time you're sixty five so you're millionaire multiple times at that point. So let's talk about a thirty five year old because some you guys like thirty I'm still I'm still have a good time. I haven't studied by Thursday night. So a thirty five year olds that save five hundred dollars a month still learning. The same non percent rate of return, they just now only have thirty years for them to work. It turns into non one hundred fifteen thousand dollars. So here's what you just saw it gets a little bit harder to be a millionaire. It gets a little bit harder. If you're waiting till thirty not an automatic millionaire anymore. So if you kick it up a notch to seven hundred and fifty dollars a month, you are back to being a millionaire is one million three hundred seventy three thousand dollars. So a lot of you in your thirties, you're saying, okay, you are sorting to make some good money. You stay in my Roth traditional, what do I do here because remember, Roth you don't get a current year tax deduction doesn't lower your taxable income, but it does grow completely tax free. Go traditional on your 4._0._1._K get a current your tax deduction. But when you pull that money out at sixty six sixty seven forever, you're going to pay ordinary income tax rates on it. So you're trying to figure out. So here's my advice to you. Now realize this is kind of fluid. This is just an opinion. You need to talk to your own financial advisor we don't know your specific age, you know risk profiles your goals. So this is not a recommendation. It's just something to ponder. And think about I think if you look at that twenty four percent tax bracket with the federal government. That's a good kind of line in the sand. Start looking at you trying to figure out where that is it starts with married filing jointly. That's around one hundred sixty eight thousand dollars for single people to around eighty four thousand that's kind of your lawn. The sand is start thinking about maybe I make enough money where traditional might make sense over Roth just because I current tax deduction, but it's still a tossup because that tax regrows is pretty powerful. It's I we'll tell you once you crossing a thirty two percent bracket for married couples that's around three hundred twenty one thousand for single people. It's one hundred sixty thousand once you pay paying thirty two percent just the federal government. And then you add, your state income taxes, you starting to pay close to forty percent tax. But if it's pretty strong is a big benefit because you're hoping when you retire. Are, you know, your tax rate might be a little bit lower? So that's just something to consider so bogere them kind of the benchmark of measuring of where they should be. So four my thirty year olds out there by the time you get to forty you should have twice your annual salary saved up. So, again, if you're someone who makes a hundred thousand dollars a year, you should have two hundred thousand dollars time, say, fidelity Bally's, if you have if you make fifty thousand dollars a year, you ought to have one hundred thousand dollars for a time looking at the Bank rate article the average balance for those from age thirty to thirty nine is forty two thousand four hundred dollars for nerdwallet the average balance was forty three thousand six hundred or a meeting of sixteen five, and then invest pedia said those age thirty two to thirty seven have saved around thirty one thousand six hundred so you can see if our goal is to have twice our annual income, the averages are probably missing the Mark, because I mean, I'm Madge in most people out there, earning more than twenty thousand dollars a year. So we're doing this. Wrong. Once again, the average American even though they have all this opportunity blowing, it, don't be part of that. So here's the transition point. We're now crossing into something I resemble. The forties forties. Or for your wounded warriors. Why do I call us in our forties, wounded warriors, because and you twenties and thirties, you're invincible you can take over the world? There's nothing you can can accomplish forties. You start realizing, hey, I'm still feeling pretty good. But I'm not going to be here forever. And maybe I'm not gonna take over the world. I mean he just kinda start realizing these things you start thinking about, hey, do the kids. I got I got the kids that are selling to become teenagers. Do we have college attic, Kyle what about retirement? Do we do? We even have retirement for crap. This is the thought process, and then this is also the age. I'm just go ahead and tell you I'm not painting a pretty pitcher from no he's not I'm not looking forward. This is a lot of midlife crisis. Happened to I think people who have not made because what happens when your forties, it's either going to be a celebration for your past successes. Have you started saving your twenties and thirties, or it's going to be that wakeup call where you go, man? It is now Tom is that four can the road moment, where I can either get serious and start building from future or I'm in trouble. It's either a celebration or a realization. So you've got it. You gotta get serious about all the things that are going on, because this is do or dot com. And then here's what I think, when I was looking at fidelity research, study now put this with the forty year olds because I think it probably is the average retirement person these real realities kinda hit them, two thirds of workers from Fidelity's research believed. They don't know much know as much about retirement as they think they should. That's easy solution. Go listen the money. I. Show solve no problem. I don't think it's the money got family. That's struggling with this. It's still l'armee shea there, the third that hasn't figured out, it's the two-thirds. It's all their friends relatives and neighbors that are that two-thirds of workers, don't know about as much about retirement, they thought they would thirty percent. Don't know anything about asset allocation twenty percent admit to not knowing how their retirement money is even invested. Target retirement solutions to that easy solutions because accidentally falling into target retirement funds would be much better than just not on your hands. To do. So let's talk about investment opportunity. Once again, I'm kicking this up, you know, if, if you're listening, if you listen to the highlight show, I'd encourage you go, look at the twenty s and thirty year olds those of you that listen to the long show, remember which one year olds I started what is two hundred dollars invested a month, turn into, and it turns you until multi-million by the time you're in your forties. Even if you're forty year old investing and working until you're sixty five years of age. So it's twenty five years of your money, working for you and a drop down. The rate of return again now you're only making eight percent because you are getting a little older. So you got a little more diversification. It's cut the edge off of that return a little bit. So even if you're investing seven hundred and fifty dollars a month by the time you're sixty five if that's where you're starting with you'll have seven hundred and thirteen thousand dollars at retirement. I think this is what's so powerful you at forty are saving almost four times more than you would have had to when you're twenty and the. Portfolio that you have our time is not a bit. It's third of it. It's truly amazing. So we gotta kick it up a notch should get over a millionaire status so we did twelve hundred dollars a month. That's right. You're investing your investing four figures a month to get to your retirement. If you're doing twelve hundred dollars a month, it's one point one million dollars by the time he retired actually one hundred is one million one hundred and forty one thousand dollars by the time you're sixty five, so here's the good news. It's still a table. That's still doable. It's still possible. You have not reached the point. So even if you are with those people instead of having the celebration, you're having the realization be excited that you still do have time when your side that you can do something meaningful in terms of build. And look, I know we get comments because people like why did you talk about the twenty and thirty? Do you make me feel so bad? Listen to this is a forty year old who didn't start guys if you didn't start your twenties. That was the best time. But, you know, the second best time is tomorrow, get going. Because if you think it's bad. Now wait until you see how much. Numbers would have grown ten years from now fifteen years from now. And remember, here's a here's the other thing when you retiring, your sixties. It's not like we all pass away within five minutes. You're going to probably live to being your nannies if not even into your hundreds becoming one hundred and five hundred and ten years old. So you're gonna need that money to last for thirty forty years, you're going to still probably have chances for this compounding interesting to help you out as well. So don't let that point miss you forty-five-year-old. That's investing seven hundred and fifty dollars for the next twenty years until they're sixty five at eight percent is going to have four hundred and forty two thousand dollars every time now you're not even halfway to millionaire status twelve hundred dollars a month. Get you to seven hundred and seven thousand dollars. That's just five years, from age, forty to forty five just five years, you would save was that all five hundred dollars more a month, and you still don't get the same place. You would have been if you would have just started. So there's a lot of you who are forty five okay? Okay, we'll tell me the number. Then if I haven't started would do to be a millionaire because that's kind of the number we all have psychological in our head. I want to have that whole seven figure portfolio. Here's a number at seventeen hundred dollars a month. You gotta save seventeen hundred dollars a month, if you waited until you're forty five years old, to start saving on a monthly basis. So you really want to focus you for its on getting that money to work as fast as possible, if he didn't doing your twenties like I said, already get it to work tomorrow, because you still have lots of opportunity for it to grow. Give them the benchmarks. Yeah. So we said that by the time you got to forty you should have double your annual salary. According to the fidelity research, by the time you're fifty you should have four times your annual salary saved up. So if you're someone who makes one hundred thousand dollars a year, you should have four hundred thousand dollars entertainment assets. Well, the bakery, piece, let us know that the average time a balance for those from forty to forty nine is just over one hundred thousand dollars one hundred and three thousand so that would be appropriate for folks who only may twenty. Five thousand dollars a year, according to nerdwallet, the average is right at one hundred six thousand and then investigate you said it those from ages thirty eight to forty three the average account balance a retirement savings balances about sixty eight thousand and those forty four to forty eight. It was right about eighty one thousand so you can see we got a big disconnect. Zeke your friends, I know you guys with the money got family. You're not making this mistake. A lot of people really dropping the ball, and their retirement savings. Let's transition to them a fifty year olds guys win. You're in your fifties. You're either a wise feel general or cautionary tale. I want you to be the wise field general because remember every dollar in your army of dollar bills should have a purpose for you. Do not want to be the relative that people point to go man. Oh girl, he had all the opportunity of the world. But he just squandered. He had his shirt in have a nice car when he was thirty though, yellow remember. Yeah. Thing was beautiful. But man he's broke. There are things you can do to not get yourself in that situation. More of your success will be determined by your past discipline and making the right decisions. Could you do not want to wait until you're fifty years old to wake up and go what has happened because there's no more free lunches? Right. This point is all on you. This is your time you still have an opportunity of fifteen years to get to sixty five so how can you put it on your shoulders and pull yourself out of this bad situation? And maybe you're someone in there. Maybe you have done the right things. You haven't making the right decisions you do. Have a portfolio started to do something pretty exciting fifty is that kind of range where you have to start really thinking about how you are being field general to your arm of dollar bills because, now you're getting to the point, you don't have the time to recover from a screw up if you make a misstep so Tom Rosin is becoming more and more important, especially if you're. Many things you want to come out of the workforce, maybe sixty not sixty five so pay attention because there's a lot of research, Fidelity's, reach our research shows that baby boomers, this is their quote from the research article baby boomers are the most likely generation to be too aggressively invested potentially putting them at risk so close to retirement. I think about like you've really racist before, Brian. Right. If you've ever been a race and you actually get out in the front, and you start guy you're about to describe you talking about the sprinter. The guy who takes off for the five Cain is at the front of the pack for all of one hundred and fifty yards. That guy's the wrong guy, and also the guy who's out in the lead, and it's his raised lose any starts showboating. He starts doing something he has no business doing any trips over his face, and he fall trips orders feet and falls on his face. There was no need when he was that close to the finish line to not just finish the drill. Well, that's what we've seen. I've actually, unfortunately do this long enough you start seeing not clients of ours, just seen people where successful parents. Had conquered the financial game. Juniors decided he wanted to start a business venture a real estate, venture got pops, and mom involved in it, and they've lost it all. There is a thing called risk capacity. Pay attention to what's going on in your portfolio, especially as you're gliding that airplane into a nice landing to have the financial independence at you're hoping for so definitely and pay attention to catch ups realize, once you hit that magical age of fifty I'm not that far from it. Now, you will get what's called catch up contributions, both in your IRA's as well as 4._0._1._K's and four threes for your 4._0._1._K's at six thousand dollars if you add that to your nine hundred and you could actually fund twenty five thousand dollars into your salary deferrals pretty powerful stuff credit, imagine the government recognizes this the age where you're probably waking up to being very serious about your future. So they want to give you some additional jet fuel to get you across the finish line. So let's talk about investing for fifty assuming no. This is a Suming a fifty year old that is done. No. Oh, saving before they just woke up today and go, oh my goodness. I gotta start saying you gotta start saving now. Once again, they don't get to make what the twenty year olds making. Because once you're in your fifties, you got to add a little more asset allocation, a little diversification. Got to cut the edge off of the volatility because you just don't have as much time to recover. So you might only be making seven percent annualized per year. And so for the next fifteen years, so you got from fifty to sixty five fifty year old saving twelve hundred dollars a month is going to have three hundred eighty thousand dollars by retirement. Okay. Maybe with the three hundred eight thousand plus social security, maybe have a pension there, you still have something going on there. And frankly, we've seen clients who have portfolios is that are in a wonderful position, because they're living expenses fit into that box, and that works, so more likely you're also your some of your peak aren't in years, so you might be able to say twenty five hundred dollars a month. I know that is a ton of money from my twenty year olds, but a person who's fifty who's really serious. You are thinking about the scarcity of may. How fearful yours, you're cutting left and right. If you were saving twenty five hundred dollars a month for the next fifteen years, you would have seven hundred ninety two thousand dollars million dollar Martin. If you want to know what you would have to do for a million dollars because I knows still that magical number, you'd have to save three thousand one hundred and fifty five dollars a month. Fifty five year old maybe if you started yet, ten years or save you're really panicking still making seven percent a year. If you did twelve hundred dollars a month, it's going to be worth two hundred and eight thousand dollars retirement. He put twenty five hundred dollars a month in it'd be worth forty four hundred thirty three thousand dollars. If you did that remember, I told you for fifty year olds to get a millionaire status, you do three thousand one hundred fifty five dollars for the fifty five year old just two five year age difference that numbers only five hundred and forty six thousand dollars, saving the exact same amount of fifty five that you would have saved at fifty only gets you halfway as far as what have five years little over half. So to save now to get to a millionaire status and that next ten year Mark, you gotta say five thousand seven hundred seventy eight dollars a month close to six thousand bucks a month. We're starting to get to maybe, maybe some seventy two grand a year. That's just just devoting to retirement. You better be in a pretty high income situation. This is also the age. You know, social security is go become a an important factor, especially if you're behind go to, and they don't send that a lot of people don't realize government doesn't send you your social security statements annually anymore. They now are required to go to the social security administration's website. That's S S A dot g-o-v, go there, you can give some verification data and then pull your data points for what you will have in retirement now. So screen is one of those things, and this is where if you are trying to figure out when to take it had to take it make sure that you measure twice cut once because you don't want to make that decision. Wrong, a lot of folks, like, oh, as soon as I hit sixty two I'm going to grandma's social security, to take that benefit. I'm going to get the money's early as possible that may not be the best decision. If you're still earning income than you might actually have your benefit reduced or if you need a higher lifetime amount to be able to cover by taking the sixty two. You may really increase your Chevy risk of running out of resources. I like people sixty two you like hot dog. Get my free money from the government that I've been paying into my whole life. So it's not really free money. It's prepaid money that you put in running much money. Right. But the truth of the matter is, if you will defer until at least full retirement age, and then maybe even consider because once you hit full retirement age, if you just wait until seventy the government actually puts a compounding rate of eight percent a year. You heard me say that for fifty year olds you probably not going to get much better in seven I can tell you sixty year old shouldn't be getting eight percent for the fact that the government compounds from full retirement age is seventy eight percent a year strong. It's something to look at it, because if anything it gives you longevity insurance protection that you might not outlive, your money, if you can push up that monthly payment that the government go pay you so kind of walk us through, what is the fidelity research? What is the Bank rate? The nerdwallet investor pedia research say for averages as well as how much you should have in your fifties. So according to the Fidelia research, by the time you reach sixty years old usually have six. Times your salary. This is where it gets a little unique though, because really by the time you get there and you start to see retirement and financial independence on the horizon, it should be customized to your financial situation. Maybe six times your salary works, maybe used to be thirty times your living expenses, maybe needs to be some number less because of pension social security. This is where it relates to be custom. You know exactly what your number is the banquet article said that for those from fifty to fifty nine the average account balance is one hundred seventy four thousand nerdwallet. Let us know that the average balance was about one hundred seventy nine thousand and then invest a pediatrician that those between fifty to fifty five have saved an average of one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. None of those numbers sound to me like it's probably six times annual salary so people because once again America is bad about saving for the future. And that's just something we've known. So let's kind of I would like to give some quick guidance on what some success indicators are for you because you're probably trying to figure. Out if you haven't hired a financial adviser you do it yourself or what are some success indicators? You can look at your retirement pot of money to know what does this mean for you. So the first one we've heard this talked about, I want to give a little color to it. A withdrawal rate, a good one. You know, good simple thing you could do is just a four and a half percent withdrawal rate. It's a good spot check. So if you think about now look, if you're a thirty year old or forty year old, that's listen to this. You don't just take your four and a half percent. You'd have to take your, your take the what your money's worth now Rohit, but what you think it's going to make from now until say, sixty five or sixty whatever your year of leaving is, so if you're thirty and you're retired at sixty grow it for thirty years, multiple that number about four and a half percent. I'll give you the Spacek of what it could be worth now. It's not going to be adjusted for inflation, but at least gives you a good spot. Now, if you're a thirty year old and you're one of those fire, folks. Thanks, you might retire your for fifties four and a half might not be here for you need to be three three and a. Half percent because you have some longevity more decades that you're live on this money, the lower that withdrawal rate is. So I mean we have somebody we're talking to right now. If you're retiring in your forties, that number probably needs to be around three and a half percent because you're gonna be living off this money. Don't want some downturn on unforeseen thing coming your way derailing that because once you take yourself out of the workforce is kind of a scary thing. So pay attention to those withdrawal rates and just because you have a withdrawal rate doesn't mean that when the market's getting his teeth kicked in that you're still hitting the accelerator. I'm hoping that human nature kicks in that you kind of trim a little bit off, take your foot off accelerator in those bad years, so you can take your total portfolio, and you can multiply withdrawal. Right. That's one way to figure out your income, another great way to think about how much you need is what we call a living expense multiple. Now here's the thing when you do this. We want you to take your living expenses, multiple by twenty five and that's a good kind of baseline. Now realize once again, this is suing your retirement like a normal retirement age in your sixties. But reduce that because you a lot of you have a little shock at all you multiply that number of living expense by twenty five million. Holy cow. I'm nowhere near that. Remember, you can reduce that living expense number by what are you go? Bring in from social security. What are you gonna bring in from your pensions? Those things will offset what that living expense need will be assuming you're taking those into account as well as taxes, it will make it more reasonable. So if you think you're living expense to five thousand dollars a month, and, you know that social security is going to be a thousand dollars a month. And you know that your pension two thousand dollars a month. You take the difference, three thousand dollars, and multiply that times twenty-five that will give you an idea of what you would do thirty six thousand twenty would give because that's just your monthly pool of three thousand but it definitely we give you a spot check of knowing what you have. And here's the last one millionaire next door formula week like this formula in Beaumont, a brilliant adjustment to it that will go over as well. But this is simply just take your age tabs your income. And divided by ten that's go tell you what the average accumulator of wealth factor should be to be super successful. We want you to be a prodigious accumulator of wealth sides, actually, it'll be to Tom's that numbers right now all of you because most people hit millionaire says, when they're in their fifties. So a lot of you go look at that formula and go, this ain't for me because I know I've got student loan debt and other things we made a tweak to the formula, because we know this formula really is not that good for twenty and thirty year olds but we made an adjustment. What's that? Yeah. So if you're someone who's under forty years of age, while you do is you take your age times, your income divided by the number of years until you get to forty plus ten so again, that your age times, your income divided by ten plus the number of years, eight forty so if you're someone who's thirty one years old, you take your thirty one years old, multiply times, your income and divide by nineteen ten plus nine years, still forty so that one adjustment will help you and you can see his beautiful because as you get closer to forty that goes. Back to the millionaire next door formula, but it gives you the age and the Tom to let your assets start growing up for you. So hopefully, you can see spot checking and looking and comparing yourself to see where you are. I would instead of paying attention to where my peers are, and what those averages account balances those things should make you feel better about yourself because you looking at it and going man people are way behind what you need to be doing is taking those success indicators, and making sure that you're going to have the retirement that you plan for if you're one of those people, you have made great decision junior at the celebration point. We want you to consider taking this abundance cycle to the next level. Consider talking to having if you get to assets that you need to have somebody look over your shoulder, make sure you're doing things right. We love free to talk to the family at abound. Wealthy money guy so reach out to us. It's money. God dot com. You can go to the contact us page bound wealthed dot com. We have a contact us page, and then don't forget guys we have a subscriber count up here with YouTube. I want you to sign up to by subscribing to our channel. 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And I always love talking to him. And he's the author of a new book called the new right? He's barely. He's more of an anarchist than anything. But I like him a lot give it up for Michael mouths. Joe Rogan experience joy Joe Rogan podcast by. What's up, buddy? Great good to be here. We were talking before the podcast about people who get mad. When I have you on, like is, if you're some sort of a monster of your, your mean person, I say, you're a New York Jew. You're snarky yes say funny things, but this idea that you're a Nazi, or something like people have gotten it. Okay. Icebreaker. By the way, why do people think you're not because someone sent me I don't read comments on Twitter, but someone sent me something like you, having this guy, onto I'm like that is so hilarious. I go, this guy is yes, there's some shit. You say, I don't agree with sure. You're very reasonable and very intelligent. Yeah. The last chapter of the book is me arguing with the nuts conversation, folks. It's not bad. It's not bad tight hawk, I. Well, it's kind of for them, religious thing if someone is the center, you can't acknowledge that they have to be outside of the fort. That's a good way to look at it. That is what it is. You know what's interesting? It's I know these people don't mean to do this, this is not their plan. But if you wanted to keep Donald Trump in office, the w-, the way, the people that oppose Donald Trump are behaving is the perfect way to keep them in office. If you tell high schoolers, if you smoke your parents are going to get upset, and the teachers are going to get up set. That's the biggest much. Right. Right. So you tell these kids, hey, if you go to these websites and read these books than your parents and the establishment, and the teachers are all going to be afraid of you. Well, sign me up. I mean it's as simple as that's the same exact psychology and they're driving people to the French. They are in the deep platforming thing is fascinating. Because the way the stuff works folks is when people get deep platform, the first people that will get deep platform are people that you agree with getting deep latte formed, people like, you know, go real Nazi, like someone who's an avowed white supremacy like. Yeah. D- platform that guy. And then that's a little slippery, because then it's like this guy's a suspected Nazi are this guy is friends with the Nazia. This guy had right? See on his show. This guy had a white supremacists onto the show. This guy had a guy thinks it's okay to be white on his show, and then it gets it gets more as it gets more and more progressive. It gets more and more preposterous. But really is great. Once you accept one grade, then you drop below in a little bit more preposterous. And then that's acceptable. And then a little bit more and then that becomes except and it's a double standard between people who are orthodox, and people who are unorthodox, Barbara Walters. Sat down with Castro. She sat down with Qaddafi who's killed. How many people that's fine you could sit down with the murderous dictator? If you're Qaddafi, if you sit down with someone on a podcast with someone who has all point views that is somehow different. Well, it's a new thing, the right platforming and de platforming and you put in his car on your platform, like all this con-, this kind of communications, very new. I just didn't exist Nomo saying that to Mike Wallace, no known saying that as you're saying to Barbara Walters knows my argument to the dates didn't society lady cheese. I said, Barbara Walters interviewed Fidel Castro. Does that make our communist like right? And I interviewed Milo, am I a gay conservative provocateur? No. Are you? I don't think so. Need to go to a doctor? Well, I mean what, what, what? What they what they're trying to do is thanks to social media. They no longer have a monopoly. And I don't mean they I've just been like orthodox thought left-winger, right wing orthodox thought no longer has a monopoly on the microphone. And that's very dangerous. If you want to basically set the boundaries of what acceptable discourse is same thing with forget politics, suck up music, writing, if you want to say these are the key. You should have lyrics like this people should dance like this. They shouldn't know, dress a certain way. This is what they would like I mean, back in the nineties, you remember they'd had the warning labels on CDs and says this has explicit lyrics, and that way, WalMart could with clean hands. Say we're not being politics, we're following their rule. So that's what this data society. Ladies trying to do. It's like, okay, I'm giving you target whatever company and excuse. These are the people you don't need to deal with. And then they could say, well, it's not up to us. We're looking at this from an external point of view. Well, also my perspective on that. There's certain subjects, I think that we can all agree. We need to cover and we need to deal with in terms of laws, and in terms of the way the government is run. But a lot of these disagreements aren't on that a lot of these disagreements seemed to be just on a political ideologies and liberal versus conservative ideologies. And people think differently they have different styles of behavior. And thinking this is why like if you had a station, the plate, hip hop, and all of a sudden you just got a bunch of Aerosmith songs play like what the fuck is. This is not what I want get this off the station except walk this way. That's well, the one with run DMC, excessive those one accepting. But that that's sort of how a lot of people seem to be approaching conservative versus progressive thinking, as it's like, once you have this mindset, you don't want to hear other opinions, as if they're going to influence, you, or if you don't like the way they sound you don't like what they're and you wanna get. Them off the channel. And this is what it seems like is happening with social media platform. Right. Because at the social media platforms are like we're a country station. We don't play heavy metal get that shit off our network like we are a progressive network. We don't play conservative. Get that stuff off. Well, if they had said that we're progressive. Right. We like a serve that would be honest and fair, but they claim is no we're banning people who are doing x y and z for people that are like oh, they're talking about this again. Fockers. Listen, this is really important shit. This is gonna decide. How how we this, this didn't exist before. Okay. And now it does now we have this, unbelievable building communicate. And I'm enjoying it right now talking to you, right. We're all enjoying it. If you tweeting about this or writing comments about this, but if this really branches off into a one side gets to do it, and one side dozen we're gonna have a fucking tremendous problem in this country. If you think that this problem that we have right now and it's, it's just star. Outing to be an issue over the last couple of years. Have you think this is this could escalate it's like a serious conflict, almost like it's, it's absolutely reasonable to think that violence could come out of this. But the Trump presidency was this collision before Trump was okay. We're fake news. Was this left idea that like this, you know, new sites are putting out lies? You your if your point of view, is different to mind. It's not just wrong. It's illegitimate. And a lot of people in that building booth and said, you want illegitimacy. Okay. I'm voting for Donald Trump for president. And now he's in the White House for you to say that people say that these ideas are evil and shouldn't be discussed. Those are separate concepts because even if you think they're evil if from your point of view, it's in the White House, are you gonna pretend this is the most powerful man in the world. There's a big contradiction there. But one of the things progressivism offers many people is this idea of truth, and certainty knowing you're one of the good guys, knowing you're in the majority at when you find that, that is not always true. I think that caused some cognitive stress. No, I would agree with that. I just think there's a real problem that's happening now with some of the accounts, I'm seeing getting banned without reason, without reason for things that are like parody accounts. They dunked him. So I dropped you he's the one who made this great Meam during the state of the union, where he had President Trump and all the Heat's footage from the state of the union of the Democrats looking pissed, and he put it over the song. Everybody hurts, right this minute. It's, it's a joke. It's fun. I it you could see that starting live. And you'll have to be Republicans and Democrats to laugh at sour pushes. They got us copyright strike, because it's like you're the right to use the music, Trump had re tweeted it he put another one. He just got suspended for a week. He did the the video from my book, so they don't. Here's the thing. If someone is a name, you can say, hey, delete, this tweet violates our guidelines? Right. You give them warnings. You could call their manager. They don't do that. You're just vanished overnight. And there's something very Soviet about. This because when they vanished, you your entire archives give manage to, and it's like, wait a minute. This person's bad and dangerous. Don't you want to show other people as an example of what to avoid like this will get you banned? So you can modify your behavior accordingly. But what they want. Apparently, it looks like what they want is for everyone to be self censoring, and to be afraid and that way, it's like instead of saying, we're scenarious. It's like you made that decision on your own. Why? No Trump has been talking about this now because it affects so many people who supporters. Right. And he's been discussing the, the idea that these people need to abide by the first amendment. And then there's your argument will either they're a private company, they can put on whatever they want, and they can decide, whatever they want, or they're protected by the first matter. You know, I had Tulsi Gabbard on the other day. Of love or too, and she's running. I asked her do my show. She wouldn't reply real. Yeah. Why I don't know. She didn't reply. I dunno on compound media on guest digital, oh, you're still does even more discussing the compound media. That's the problem and all that. Good ways. All the good ways. I love Louis. I love all those guys are savages. They lose. She's probably like fuck. I'm savage AC. Like I'll have those guys. You know what I mean? I have officially got permission that the room we all recording his called the gas chamber. Oh, jesus. Yeah. You could say that I could say, yeah privilege. Yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she will. I'll tell her about it, but she was on her, and I are besties. By the time I really do respect the shit out of her. I really do. You know, I'd love to call her Madam President. I think that'd be dope. She's smart man. She's she's she's so measured. We shouldn't have all the answers. I mean, some of the things that she says, I things that you say, you know, unless you're gonna we're going to have to work create more jobs. Like those kind of that kind of talk is politician, talk, and I go okay, well, what would that mean we'll have to figure that out, and I think she's sincere but these answers, you know, don't really exist like how to fix inner cities, like how to, like these are the, like someone some of the big issues that she discussed we talked about, like horrible neighborhoods that have always been harmed, right? Like, how is this like we're going to fucking Afghanistan trying to fix and we're not trying to fix Chicago? The south side of Chicago. What's happening? Why, why so many people getting shot? I can we can't fix. That's funny back in the day, they had something called slum clearance, and the idea was if you tear down, these old buildings and build new buildings, somehow, the crime is gonna go away. This is a big. It's just like, yeah, it's the Bill. Fucking haunted houses. They have decades and decades of crack and bullets flying through them. That's okay. But she's great because she my biggest issue is antiwar at anyone for me whose first priority isn't. Let's stop killing people that I'm a fan of, and she's also veteran. Yeah. Sixteen years. Yeah. I'm a big fan. But, you know, I think this country needs more. You know, we need we need real plans. We need like someone we the way we engineer software systems, you know, search engines operating systems or cell phones. They should engineer's society mean we should really be looking at it in terms of the potential for prosperity opportunity, all these different things that we don't cover. We just sort of leave so much up to chance because we by the, the bullshit that like I mean, I think we all know at this point the not everyone's on even playing field. We're just not. But we don't think there's a lot of people know that. Well, they're fucking crazy. And that's the problem. Yeah. Yes. They're fucking crazy. If you don't think the being born in a crime ridden neighborhood with violence all around you and being exposed that an early age fucks your head up. I don't even mean that. I think the fact that a lot of people aren't hard working. Oh, yeah. Does that too? Like to say that out there shocking to many people's guess some. People are bad. Some people think that just because they show up at work, and they don't want to that. They're working hard. Right. Right. It's hard for them. You fuck. And you just go look, you're you do you know what I read that was one of the more hilarious things that have ever heard of crazy progressive person, right? If you are successful, it is because someone else got fucked over Assad disturbing but it's such a crazy way to look at it. It's like okay, somewhere down the chain are, if you have an iphone someone got fucked over that. Logic, right? Oh, no, no, no. The logic is someone had to work as a slave in Foxconn to make these fucking iphones for like fifteen cents a week or whatever they make over. But if that's wasn't making fifteen cents of week. That's would be dead. That's what say squirrelly, right? But yeah, but is that okay like when they go to third world countries and set up sweatshops, and like I knew someone who had one and they were like doing fucking mental gymnastics to try to justify and I was like, wait a minute, how much he pays people and they're like they were gonna starve to death if it wasn't for us. Are you sure they were there? Right. They were there. They probably been there for thousands of years. Like Where'd you go like Guatemala? Whereas it Argentina league where he said, how did you get you examples that are maybe I can't speak to second world examples North Korea, which is obviously my beat. That's your be. So there is a. Zone between north and South Korea where they worked together DMZ mother now but it's like this enrichment zone together. Right. So the North Koreans worked at the South Koreans, kind of put it together and the government takes like ninety five percent of your money, and also North Koreans who work in Russian logging, camps where the government takes like ninety five percent of your money, they're slaves. They're one hundred percent slaves with they're beating down their doors to work in these locations because they're providing for their family and they're still wealthier than the alternative. Now, this is a very extreme situation. This isn't like third world what country? You're your friend is a sweatshop in, but there are circumstances where a lot of people on the left and on the right. Don't understand often that politics and economics is about often. You have two bad choices, like what is the alternative? It's like what, like, for example, you going to put forth, the law. What are you gonna do about people who are going to look at this law? Not in good, faith, like there was that guy was named sue me, Zuhdi who said I'm trans and he just made the video. Zubi zubi. Yeah. He just broke the women's Daedalus reference. By the way, they took those records away from that Australian woman that guy that was Australia. Right. Wasn't the world, the powerlifting women's world records, she broke, like three of them said, not even about trans stuff. It's like what do you do with any law? When someone is going to act in bad faith, and you can't account for that. You're not being a responsible with your proposal. Yeah. This isn't even a law, though, with we're talking about with the trans athletes. It's just it's loopholes. So some weird that people don't want to be seen as transphobic in today's climate, so that allowing preposterous things. What was that like for you, and you were talking? I remember when you're talking at them on this show that got pretty heated. Oh, yeah. I'm ruins everything. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't get heated. We just never got upset we've absolutely disagreed, but he had some crazy notions about competition that didn't make any sense, either like that. Somehow or another, the sports are designed to favor. Then what it did make any sense. It was a lot of it was progressive rehashing, my opinion. I think it sounded good to him. But I don't know how much actual thought he's put into it was actually interesting is like in his show. He's well researched. And no one's opposing these this data that he's putting out. So he gets to say these things as one of the problems with, like, writing a blog or making a video about something. We're no goes, actually. That's not really true. This is why that's not true. The makes plane and this is why you're on. And now continue. See when you can just go on these long unchecked rants. That's where you get like flat earth believers. That's what that shifts from. 'cause they wash those videos. Yeah. And they go, oh, this makes sense. But this is why it's so important that unorthodox voices. Don't get the platforms because even if that person is proposed putting forth things that are completely full of shit their criticism and their perspective. They might have some truth in it. And at the very least, like when I was Charlottesville. And I talked to. These people by talking to them. It makes me think through why do I believe what I believe? Why is my truth the actual truth, and I'm going to be challenged my views, and I'm going to have a better grounding for them as opposed to like you're saying, if I'm sitting here just giving him on log, and no one ever calls me out of my bullshit. Yeah, I think I see what you're saying. I think what they think is you have to silence. These bad voices like the anti vaccine movement. It's a big one. Right now. People are sending you go. Silence. And so the taking anti vacs videos down there, taking device pages down. You know, I don't know how much they actually know about the science. You know, I don't I mean, vaccines are incredible for health in terms of what they've done to protect us from disease. They've stopped smallpox, they've stopped polio. And when you see these outbreaks of measles, that has had direct resort of people not getting vaccinated. You know, does that mean that no one's ever been hurt by vaccines? No, no doesn't man. There's a vaccine court people been injured people who had died. That's a fact. But that's I think just a part of medical procedures in human beings, made a lot of kids die every year from circumcision. Yeah. They get infections. They lose their penises. Yeah. It's like very common like way, more common in terms of like the numbers per year than you'd ever wanna hear. Oh, god. People die from things they get infections, people get have allergic reactions to certain chemical at doesn't. It's probably it's now those vaccines can say we're being covered up. Yeah. Now they're honest. It's the truth covered are being covered up. Yeah. So it's a very it's I would think it problem is who's right? And who's like if you're a person, and you're you have a child, and you terrified can you go to these websites, and, like, oh my God, I don't want my kid to get autism. Like they're saying the vaccines cause autism. I'm not vaccinating my kid. I'm not gonna take the chance. And that's where a lot of it comes in. If you watch those videos, and you watch video that's not done by scientists, that's not up to date on what we know about what caused like I had Peter hotels on who's very knowledgeable about vaccines and very knowledgeable about diseases in general, and he was describing the what they think the causes of autism, mar that how it takes place in the womb. And how what's most likely happening is, is just expressing herself at the same time that the kids getting vaccinated and your correlating the two things together. But there's also the movement of not regarding autism as a problem or door. Coda. Children of deaf adults, you know, you have these parents whose kids are deaf, and they refuse to get them. Coke Lear implants. Give them the ability here because they think that's losing deaf culture. Now to me, you never heard this, this is the thing. Yeah. Everything is a thing because I can see when you think about it for a few seconds. You could understand where they're coming from because you want to be like, well you're saying, I'm bad because I'm deaf. And it was like, but then you hear people that are like trans disabled, do you know what that is where the cut the hand off because they feel like they're supposed to have no hand. No. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, he thinks this is what I'm saying. Like they're all lump them all together. Because what they are is all of them. Are these weird variables when it comes to human behavior and thinking patterns and biology, always weird variables where you get so many numbers? Have you have all these people three hundred? Whatever million we have in this country. You're going to have a few thousand of almost every variable every weird variable. Good lord. I lord. Yeah. I'll I knows the politics at the health stuff. I don't even wanna wait into that. That was what I was. There was an old website that I was going to. What was that body modification extreme? Remember that guy he died when the, the lizard, guy, no cat guy? His name was Shannon shy Shannon laureate is how you say his name. But B M, E X body modification, extreme was the website. He and I became like. Pen pals going back like he sent me some stuff on. I, I wrote something wants about body modification like what kind of weird shit people do? And he's like he might have you ever have any questions feel free to ask me my website? He sent me a password to his because it was like one of those things had to pay for membership. And I was like holy shit. You go to this website and it's just it was just this was in the nineties. Okay. And the, the most freakish weirdest fuck in body modifications, and there's a whole culture behind people putting horns on their heads and doing weird shit to their skin makes this whole jout tattoo in their whole face Melissa. She had magnets implanted on her fingers. Why we never know what I would. I think the magnets. Well, you have to pick things up. You don't wanna close your hand. Buck is wrong. Three fry Baghdad's. Well, people think that magnetic, where magazine wristbands, we good for you. Here's autism but you get the vaccine magnet, you know, it sounds stupid, but they use magnetic therapy. For veterans at have PTSD and CT because there's areas of the brain that can actually stimulate these very powerful magnets, cats and Gano UFC fighter. She went down there when she was having some serious repercussions from her fight with Amanda Nunez. She got really battered badly in the first round and her hormones rat. A y for months afterwards, she was all fucked up cortisol levels were all fucked up. And finally, she went and got her sparring was offer timings options. I just have to rush people I didn't have any sense of timing. Oh, yeah. She was real problems with brain and they fixed it. They fix it with magnets, these, these electromagnetic pulse on. I'm just saying words that don't understand. So if you're a scientist, let's share the book or you say this. I just tweeting it you feverishly like you're spending allies. Listen angry scientists. I'm with you. I'm, I'm retarded. Listen they throw these these, these waves at the brain in somehow another these electromagnetic waves stimulate air. Areas of the mind and it actually forces brain cells to grow and forces neural connections. It's really interesting stuff cats and Gano played it pretty pretty pretty in depth. But it really helped her. So it's weird that a magnet would work for that. But those are like, really strong once. Okay. The little ones around your wrist. That's the thing I think. But it might I mean I don't know. Fuck do I know you had law not spending the twenty four ninety nine and that fucking bracelet, but it's got an English guy. That's how you knows legit. When it comes with a mop comes to the free Shammy remember the sham wild guy. He's dead. Isn't he didn't? He gave his early. You get bit by a Hooker. It's the other one who got the Oxy clean guys dead. Billy whatever. Oh, Sam is alive. Billy was to up. Yeah. Is that what it was a lot of coconut system? Partly. Do you have a heart attack right? Cool. Is that Oxy money that cleaning up? You wanna fuck and party who's probably had a yellow Lamborghini. Dick implant that part up. I'm sure he's a great guy. Wasn't in the middle of doing a television show. They were doing a television show about them. He was well, he had the pitchman sitcom or something. It was like a reality show reality type show. They're falling them around doing pitches, and stuff. There's an art to that shit those guys he's he got me allies shark tank before them. I think they were helping people do stuff, sorta elect kitchen nightmares. Yeah, I'm friends with the son. Oh the shark tanks sham while they may may son. Yeah. Went on sorry. So let's Sunday when I was just joking around junior don't show, the third mad we're talking about that. He's, I'm sure Billy Mays was a good guy. But didn't he will? He's your friend. Yeah. That's why couldn't spun anyway do was party. The sham guy was the guy got bit. I, I actually think he bit someone. Well, that's yeah. I'll you get someone like Marv Albert did Marv Albert bite. Someone. Yeah. Didn't he the lady, I thought she bit him to get my stories all confused because do dudes. Many biting too many vaccines. That's your problem, man. They saved me from the measles. They made me dumber whatever. Oh, there it is. Oh he bit. Her happened. A few times, I think sham pitch man. Brutal beatdown? Yeah. So they just went to all my God. He did. That's where is, is that real? I mean let's like makeup though that's smokey and it didn't look up to me so symmetrical. So black is doesn't happen smashed. But that's the look. She, she had his tongue, and so I started punching until she realized. Oh my God. Her hand on her mouth tongue or the in the face on my people. Crazy. That's math. Right. Gotta guess what's involved there? No, it's something crazy. The meth really PCP or like a bath salts. Remember that if you're grabbing someone's tongue. It's bath salts think Beth salts were metha-. No. Yeah. I think it was. I think what it was was math with the, the I think they altered a molecule so that it doesn't fall into the protected. Schedule one drug. See you can do things like that. Like that's why DM t was illegal, but five meth Oxy damn t- wasn't which is actually stronger. They missed that one here goes, what's that drug less ten minutes? Oh, what does this basalt, first of all, here's another thing? I think there's a bunch of different kinds of basalt for sure. Yeah, for sure. You got the lavender. I mean, there's parade. But I mean nobody I don't think anybody has a patent. You can't call that basalt way because fairly got high on its best salts because of the name Beth Yonne, no, the bath salts because they were selling it in stores as bad, not for human consumption, wink, who and UNICEF. The chemicals Beth Yonne. No. Cath cata. Oh, okay. I read it. Okay. But what, what I'm saying is the labeled it bass, also they get Sal. But everybody knew it was math. Okay. Man as basalt over. They should try smoking that. But isn't that how salvia was around for a longtime Salvi around for the same reason? Five methodically DMC was around. Missed it in the sweeping scheduled one drug act of nineteen seventy okay missed that one to the most potent ones. They missed salvia Dion Orem and five hundred sixty DMC and that's why they're always changing it because if it's lightly different than you could say, it's not exactly. So see if you find that like bath salts is meth, because someone there was a guy, there was a guy who got a who's a homeless guy. I think they shot him. He was biting someone's face off in Florida. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah. And they said that he was on basalt that's the first time I heard of it. Yeah. And I think someone said that it was meth that he was because like that cat stuff, just like you're saying it's just a bunch of different things you can call. Oh, method drums. So it is a potpourri suppose appropriate. You could say you basically sell whatever you want, if you're selling as not for human consumption, and also, I'd probably, they probably put smell into it so they can say no about so, yeah. Yeah. They probably through some fuck in some they have like a little cat and mouse game going on for a while where they would have. It's the same thing with that k two spice stuff. Says synthetic either spraying all over that's us to be terrible for raffle. Yeah. Way worse for you than actual, but they would outlaw one little chemical. And then those guys would figure out, okay. Tweak. It t h three seven nine. Okay, now next week is three eighty and they just keep doing it every single week. Literally, and by the way, that's the same shit that they did with steroids, with, like the clear when Barry Bonds, and all those guys that balk oh scandal. That's what all that stuff was about. Now they just changed the like the points after drums and stuff around a little, and then it doesn't show up in the tests, because it's not the thing you're looking for the way it's been explained to me is a lot of tests for things very specific. So testing for something. And it's just a little bit odd. It's like you test negative for it, but it's has similar result, or approximate result in a different way. I will say though, what the bath salts people were breaking into any place that had him gas stations any store that had bath salts, if they think they had them. What your windows are being broken your door being broken? Yeah. You're not gonna have tomorrow that yeah, those are methods that's method activity. Do you did you ever know anybody there's a method? No haven't known a few people. It's weird to see because it's so visual, the results. Well, not always that's what's interesting. What you're seeing when you see people that are completely fucked up in picking the skin off their face, and they weigh five pounds and they're falling apart that is worst case scenario. Some people that I would call functional methods and what these people are people that are on amphetamines every day or almost every day, they're constantly on 'em phetamine. Some of them get prescribed by doctors. They get really rational. They start thinking that everyone's out to get him. They get real mean and nasty towards other people very defensive there. There was attacking and thinking they're persecuted thinking, someone's attacking them. It's very strange. And these people could function like this for years, years and years. And you get the same with Adderall addicts. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's your speed. Isn't it? Same thing. Yeah. It's very similar to meth. It's impediments, right. It's just a different release, like, what Adderall Duncan trussell is a great joke is like, he's if as a scientist took cocaine went I can fix this. Makes people talkative Grasset of and insulting and mean. And, and it gets it like it highlights some of the worst aspects of people, the bitchy pettiness, I love that stuff. But it's not. That's why you do it. You do it with a smile. Thank you. That's true. Snarky people need to be having more fun. Yeah. But you're, you're, you're positions are always even fun on agree with them. The rational, I see your thought process. I see where you're going. Well, thank you. That's a huge compliment on a method that. Why didn't say the Jews were doing what what's happening with the Nazis? Big one, I get to I interviewed a Nazi for the book and I said to him, I go, look, what a what do I supposed to do when they see your people come at me and say the only reason you care about North Korea, and its concentration camps is because they're anti Israel. And he goes, what do you want me to tell you? There's idiots in every group, as all right there, because they're anti Israel. Jeez to think about the idea that Israel is Korea's just absolutely amazing. But I get that online, connect everything rival that a really into the nutty conspiracies. There's a network of connections, then if you're not talking about it, what they think, is the most important issue. You're clearly being dishonest because it's the most important issue must be Schill. Yes. That time over there and Korea interest, I did. American be over there, North Korea. Hey, I wanted to talk to you about this. I don't know if you know anything about it, but essentially Google has pulled the plug on hallway today. Meaning they're no longer allowing Android. Updates on alway phones. And they're not allowing the Google app to work on on wall, way phones, or excuse me, the g mail app to work on wall way phones. If you had an old wow phone with the g mail app. You're fine. But going forward. No. What way phones will be allowed to have g mail anymore. What's the reasoning? It's very good question. Markey's Brownlee, who's Marcus has been on the show before. And he's probably one of my favorite. If not my favorite tech reviewer on YouTube. He had a point about it. He you know, he put it up on his Twitter and then I followed the feed. He's like this is very important. I follow the fee. There's tech people, they're saying there is no reason for this. There's no evidence, did not point. Into anything. But then when I talked to people that are experts in foreign policy, and they explain the way China works in China's relationship between the government and industry, how they're inexorably connected and the Elliot's every business works for the government, they were saying no, there's a reason why they're doing this. Like the these guys are playing this real long game in to aid them in any way is extraordinarily bad for our country. Yeah. I had Marion Smith from these communism on my show, and since my focus, North Korea, wasn't that much folks in China and he and we all think in the west that China has gotten so much better than it was. Which is true. But he goes, it's still really, really, really bad and one of the big, I think fair, criticisms of the corporate press is how much they're focused on Putin and Russia. And it's like you calling him a dictator the shit. They're pulling in China is an order of magnitude worse and something that they're doing now. They stole from North Korea. North Korea has something called sung sung-gun and everyone on Bunn. S. O. N. G B one sung-gun. Ev. Everyone in North Korea got interviewed, and there's several iterations of this, and you got a score based on your family. So if you are family was born in South Korea, or priest or landowner that's a low score. If you your grandfather fought with the great leader Kimmel song, that's a high score it's divided into favored class wavering, and hostile, and there's like fifty one subcategories and this determines everything about your life where you live where you go to college, and China's now starting to do this. They're trying to implement Social Credit system, based on your loyalty to the government, which will allow things like leaving the country and all sorts of other opportunities. And that's scary scary stuff. And that's what needs to be. I think covered much more in the west. The problem with Donna's it becomes like a game and people are gonna wanna have a really high school. Of course. That's it'd be people are so weird. When it comes to score in games, but we get so you have to have a high score or else, you're not getting food that job. Right. Right, right. Yeah. But it's also like people covered it. Oh, but they don't tell your score. Oh, jeez. Intimate it. Oh, yeah. Scary. Oh, yeah, yeah, so you got to fly right until you're always nervous euro. That's what they want. You're always nervous. It's not a transparency, self censoring as well. Right. It forces a system of self censoring, like Twitter. Yes. Are you saying that Twitter's China? Did you say that Twitter's communist? Those words. Yes. No. We got a ways to go for communism. But some of the techniques they use are very disturbingly totalitarian. Yes, disturbingly. So the other thing is yes, they are private company. It's funny how the left is like a soon as you criticize Twitter, their private company. They can do they want, but any other private company would ever a private company can be criticized. And if you're perfectly appropriate in a free market to say what you're doing is screwed up and give us answers or we're going to use another company. I think when I talked to Jack about this one of the things that he was saying that they're considering open Twitter like they're going to have Twitter where it's like a safe neighborhood and Twitter where it's like the wild west. Okay. And I said, please do that. Yeah, please do that. You know, I mean but just a block people this ways to avoid people. I blocked people liberal. You know, it's weird though block lists when you never even had an interaction. So I wanted to take a blacklist. Yeah. And you go to their page, and they're blocked. You're just blocked. Just were no reasons people have block lists for anyone who follows President Trump yet. It's like if I'm a journalist, I sure as hell better. Following the fuck and president right now. He says, first of all, he says, Larry shit yes on the rig. Look he does. What's your favorite Trump tweet rocket man when he was calling to my favorite one had John rocker, man? What's the, the one about the haters in the losers? Yes. That's a great one. But he did that before he was president. Eight thousand thirteen still my favorite Trump too far. It's all, yeah. Every time I speak of the haters and losers. I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up. I would like if he said that now as president now that's one thing he's really doing done great job as president, and that's wearing. Yeah. It's amazing. Well, did you see what CNN did to him during the campaign? He said, boy, that's really up. So he didn't say it. They played the Clinton they believed him. Yes. We talked about this before it's very dishonest. Yeah. They bleeped it to make it look like he said something I didn't. But he's cursing blue streak in the White House, anyway. But you know this but it's funny I like it. I think that part is funny like I'm not I'm not happy with a lot of what's going on. But I'm very happy that he's this ridiculous person. I think funny, and I think it's very healthy for us to have less reverence for the president, because when a president is on a pedestal. He's in a position is centre sons, and daughters to die where. Whereas if you look at it as a clown, you're going to be much, less more skeptical of, is this man, going to war for the right reasons. Is he doing these things for the right reasons? And I think that's ver-, and that's what the founding fathers wanted to. They didn't want the president to be looked at as a God. Listen, interesting point that I think you're correct. And I think this idea that it's behavior unfitting for president. That's what we're thinking that the president is a special person, right special job. And they'll act accordingly like a gentleman, they're human beings. It's a stupid job. It's a ridiculous job for anyone. You said Biden went after Trump and says, oh, being presidential is always yet by definition. He's always being presidential because he's the fucking president, and you're not well, Biden's a weird guy these video sniffing those kids, what is that about, and it could just be a sweet old grandpa? But now some sweet oh, Grandpa's don't wanna fuck kids. They do do that. That thing is it a sense be make more sense to people if he was just like Hansie. Right. It's like okay. You're right. This is like. I don't even know where to put this, right? Where do you put sniffing? Yeah. It's fucking weird thing. He's just a weird guy did did you know about the, the plagiarism from back when he's running for pro he ran three times. I think he's fucked in the primary, because his track record is pathetic. So the first time he ran was in eighty eight cycle, right? He announces July he has two fold by September because this plagiarism scandal, right? He runs again, in a weight comes in, like sixth in Iowa has to pull so he in terms of his history of running for presidency. It's been very, very poor. He's a good backup man. He's right. Right. Because the steady reliable result. Yes. She's stay the fuck out. Look, it's gonna eat him alive Hugli. It's going to be ugly. You're gonna hate it bro, and you're not gonna win there. I don't think he's gonna but he's the front runner in you. Look at the democratic polls in terms of the Democrats, you know, who's the front runner at this point in two thousand and three who Joe Lieberman. He was the vice presidential candidate from gore. You everyone knows me what happened with that guy. He lost he Where'd he go. He went, right? Didn't he she went? They he lost the primary in his state of Connecticut. Then he ran as an independent democrat one again. Relented, he killed universal health care, because they need sixty votes, and he's like fuck you. We're not doing it. So they had to have this ObamaCare market system was because of him and now everyone hates them didn't he turn onto Republican though? No. But he endorsed, her became a Nazi. Joey heard Joe Lieberman invention. Peer. The new right? Yeah. The fact that he gets called one that's the funniest shit ever. While wearing a yarmulke people, calling them and not so that you you'd never suspect it. Yes. Niki. It's we're sneaky. I just think if we had a design a system from scratch, there's no way would have one person at the top of the pyramid. Right. Doesn't make any sense. It doesn't it doesn't need to be pyramid. Yeah. Doesn't it could be a series of silos? Yeah. There's no reason. I mean, I guess the good thing would be that person can veto staff and get things done. So if there is some sort of if he's a reasonable person and he really works. Well, those doesn't abuse that power. One thing he has done those the what I mean it's going to sound ridiculous. But when he has Kim Kardashian bring in cases of people that were unjustly, prosecuted or unjustly, imprisoned, and he releases them. I, I liked that I liked that. She does it and I liked that he does it takes a lot for me to get angry. But when people were clowning them, and I'm like Kim Kardashian, you can say a lot of shit about her. She saved people's lives. She's helping people in a tremendous way. You're gonna tell those families that fuck you, she's helped seventeen people be released from prison in the last three months, and I think it's also very disturbing how glib a lot of people are about prison, and it's a really, I don't know what it's like, and I don't want to know what it's like, don't want. It's no joke, but it is a punchline and it's like you're laughing about people being traumatized for life and possibly having no possibility of return to society. If the people used to be a little laugh about. Stuff like that, because it would be like laughing at work, you know, as you go to work and ULA gay OJ's in the candy is gonna take it into care, and remove with you would go to work, and you'd say something stupid like that, and it wouldn't go anywhere. But when you say something like that on Twitter, Facebook, like who boy you remember? I mean, people find out you say that inappropriate thing remember that would just eat SoKo. Of course you have some I was flying here for this show. And someone tweeted me hashtag has malice landed yet because that was the hashtag for her. Oh, yeah. 'cause she tweeted out a joke. She gets on a flight and it blew up shoes over on the flight. Right. And when she lands, her life is down backwards inside a dumb joke. Yeah. That jumped Joe could have been something that you would just say. And then the next day, the fuck is wrong with meals on Ambien and alcohol and trying to be funny. And that is something that the event Jellicoe left is very scary about about ding about if your if you take a joke, and that's inappropriate in some sense, and they're the ones judging, it's inappropriate. Your life should be ruined. That is crazy. And totalitarian, yeah, it's, it's also it smacks of deep insecurity, and fear that you experienced personally anyone turn it on other people the same feeling that people have when they're bullies the reason what someone's a bully is almost always, because they're not confident of their own abilities. So they want to somehow or another, by being cruel to someone else they exercise this power on someone else in. Somehow or another, relieves them of a certain portion of this inadequacy that they feel the stress they feel. It's why one of the reasons why a lot of people are saying that bullies contrary to, like, what would think would be logical thing you should teach them how to fight, and they would wouldn't wanna do this, the reason why they're doing this to people's because they're insecure? That's the same thing. I think when you're when you see these Twitter mobs and people hacking people the thing they fear most is that they're going to be attacked themselves. The thing they feel what they feel social. They fear social ostracization. They feel the fear that Dave of being standing up on their own two feet and being an individual and then I have a whole chapter on dark humor in this book. And I'm shocked that they let me publish it because Bonnie McFarlane great comedian. She has. She was roasting Jim Norton. And she says to him, your show is so unlistenable I'd rather hear my daughter drowning. And it's like are you gonna throw? But let's say let's break this down. Are you gonna tell her as a comedian, or as a mom? That that's not appropriate. She's so they only made me cut one joke. I have everything else in there. And the point I make is something might not be funny for you. If you're an assault victim right, you don't want to kind of that's fine. But it's not something's not for you doesn't mean it's not for anyone would is the new right? This is the title of your book. Yeah. A journey to the fringe of American politics. What, what inspired you? So. So the circles, I was swimming in started going into developing to the scene as it was happening that culminated in the Trump presidency in Charlottesville. So I was there as this was happening circles, who discussing this kind of the anarchist circles, the, the what they call race, realism the racists, you know. All right. And seeing a lot of it happening despite discussed in the press, and people, not knowing what they're talking about. I'm like, all right. Someone's got to write this book who's been there and understands it and I might as well. How do you understand what, what, what about do? You like the race realist because I the one of the points I make is, this is not one scene, where everyone's in agreement. These people often completely hate each other and disagreed. The only thing that unites them is their opposition to progressivism. And this is you looking at this as a journalist, when you say, sure, yeah. With the way you're saying it's like you're part of these groups. Well, I was I I'm, like, all right. I went to all the meetings, I go to Charlottesville on the interviewed all the types. I had I you know, and it's what they're. Points of view are. And if you're going to engage with this kind of thinking, which is somewhat prevalent on the fringes. You have to at least understand where where they're coming from and being dismissed in power for. Sure. But what I want to say because I don't want people to misconstrue you. So someone could listen to this, and inadvertently, missed or purposely misconstrue and think that you're a part of these groups on. No, no. So I it's very clear in this book in that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. In the book, but the way we're discussing it in this conversation you're saying the circles that you running yet because a lot of the people who I was friends with fell down this rabbit hole. They fell down the rabbit hole of, of embrace of. Yes. Who were friends with Bill down? I'm not naming it. Yeah. Becau and it was very disturbing. Real life. Correct. Wow. And it was very disturbing to watch as they start throwing our terms like HP D, And Iraq. Does that human by diversity? That's their code word for different races. Right. Shuman bio-diversity is the code word for different reasons. Yes. And what's the other one HBO and interacts anorexia reaction? So this is basically, America's this decadent. Why Republic, and we need to return to like hardcore myrow reaction Neo. Okay, Riyan reaction that was the hashtag before was the alright, or it's not the same, but there's enough, so and a lot of these guys are really cerebral. You know, they could tell you about the history of England. They could tell you about, you know, all the science and what went wrong with whom with them. I don't know what went wrong. I think one of the things that goes wrong is when no one's talking to you. And you're just talking to each other. You're going to start doubling down. Because there's no one hitting the breaks. You know what else happens? You say. Controversial things people attack you and then some people don't attack you. They support you yet. And then you gravitate towards those added support you. Right. And then you get that endorphin rush. You get the lion. Yes, you start seeing that with people, they start embracing really weird fringe ideas. They become a part of these fringe groups. They get praised by these fringe groups. And then they elevate to virtue signal for that fringe group. And so you could be either an average person in the mass or you could be a leader in the fringe. So it's big fish in a small pond. And you could be one of those who knows one of those who knows. Right. People know what the fuck is going on. Right. So not going to get me with the scam. So my line is you take one red pill but not the whole bottle. You take the Adderall, bro. Fucking out or all no one's going to know what's happening start. Stashing weapons in your backyard. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's an interesting, and there's also long history of this stuff to how did you know, those guys in real life. Did you know them from work? Did you know from like, like anarchist circles? So, yeah, this anarchy thing like how serious are you about that? One hundred percent hundred percent serious. So anarchists think there should be no cops. No Anarchist's don't think there should be government. Cops private security. Oh, private security. What if you're poor? What? Well, safe thing you know, one wants to have a scenario like if you go to a bar, you're not paying for the doorman or if you're going to hotel, you're not paying security. The point is whoever has an environment wants to be a safest possible stop right there. Okay. Because if you go into a bar if you're buying a drink the bar is taking some of the money from that drink to pay for that security wreck. It's the same thing as you paying taxes. It's not the same pink tax. So let's just look at it this way. It's just money into pool. It's not just money. But hope hopefully if you throw the money into pool, but. Mean let me explain. Okay, if you throw the money into the pool. Okay. And the obviously taxes get taken from you. It's different in that regard. But if you have a certain amount of money, certain amount of money is going to go to protecting the people, and this is the idea of police force. And this is the idea of bouncer. At least a bouncer is more likely acting in the interests of the club here. Trying to keep out bad people trying to keep people from getting sued, but the money for the drinks goes to that some of it a percentage goes much like your tax money. Some of it goes to the cops share, right? Correct. But the big difference is one is voluntary and one is forceful, and one is a monopoly, and one isn't. So if you had a free system, you would have more security, because the streets would have someone doing security, and the bar, and the store and they'll be complementary to each other as opposed to you only have to dial nine one one, wouldn't it be look how many dating sites there? All right. Wouldn't it be great if instead of one number, you had dozens of voices that are going to offer you security? So like private businesses that work like Uber. You give them a call when you get raped like you press a button short one with the dude, we hound you press the button. And then someone shows up we, we have that now and right now. I mean we if you go to apartment building or a business building, there is going to be security there already. You're not gonna yeah, you're not gonna call the cop. You're gonna call the book readers shirts and they're playing with their phone. They used to be book, readers other phone players. I'd rather they'd be reading books and shooting dogs. So that's where we are. Right suicide in terms, that's the grossest shit ever. When you see swat teams show up and people's dogs when people get, and that's the problem with having a monopoly is there's no consequences. Yes. So let's there's all these cases where, you know, dogs. Get shot the flash grenade in the baby's crib. These people aren't fight like a Eric garner. The only person who got in trouble for air garner dying is the guy who filmed it. I mean if you are a cook, and you are serving food, and you under- cook chicken, it's a mistake, honest mistake and some. Gets sick. That shouldn't be your job. But if you're a police officer often and I'm gonna get a lot of heat for this. And that's fine. If see something bad happens as a consequence for actions. There have to be consequences that maybe this isn't the right job for you. Well oftentimes there is if there's an inappropriate shooting or sub phones lines. But I think you're right. And I've experienced abusive cops, I think we all have, and I also think that it's very, very, very difficult to be that guy. And not become abusive and not become worn out by not become extremely stressed out. I'm a big supporter police, I just don't think that it's job for everybody, I think being a cop is like a lot of other jobs that are especially that one that's super fucking difficult. The idea just hire people off the street and run into some tests, and they're gonna make great cops. I agree. It's crazy. I agree. And what happens is when you're a monopoly, you don't have to be officiant, or effective. I think they should hire. Former military that's what I think have. At least they hire hire people know, hire people that have disciplined, hire people that, that have gone through some experience in actual combat who know how to handle pressure better, and then make it a very, very valuable job and make it a very like very strict codes of conduct and behavior and an action. I think another problem, the police have in their defense is when you have public streets people have certain rights, and they connect to have where that like here in LA. You have these tents. And I thought minder standing is the government said, you can't clear out those tents that is hilarious. Isn't it? And now the cops can't do anything so they are hamstrung for being able to their jobs. Whereas if this was private this would not be happening. Well, if you go under underpasses folks, I don't know where you live. But there's a fucking campground then literally, they have tents. Yeah. Everywhere I went to, I didn't know skid row is an actual place. I didn't know I went there, last time I was here, there, the whole block is covered intense always unbelievable people who don't know I love to take them skid row. It's downtown L A's insane. You go there and you're like what is this, what this is is failure? This is fairly. I mean cultural failure failure to address these members of our community fair failure to provide health care failure to raise children correctly failure to keep people from drugs failure to provide good systems to get them off drugs. It started New York to, to Blasio who's a real charmer. That one like now all you go every subway train there's a homeless person with all their bags. Yeah. And this there's got to. Federal turnips in that even for them. Well somewhat Donald Trump junior posted videos over the news the other day when he's talking about de Blasio. And he's like this is I'm driving here. I'm Liz out my window filming and look good. Look at all these tents like you look at all this homeless shit, he started following me on Twitter. And now I live in fear of like say wrong thing. And I don't know. It's just like holy the North Korea's my biggest issue by far right by far. But what do you in fear of getting on followed by Donald Trump? Jim. Long fall. You better. Not. No. I have friends that are friends with him. Okay. Like good friends like my good friends. And they're good friends with him. Okay. I'll slide and them they say he's a good guy. It's just a slide into his. He's just in a weird position, man. If he wasn't the, the president's son, he wouldn't be under so much scrutiny. He'd like he's a great guy. Okay. So you everybody's just like, oh, you're the president's son. It's weird for me giving that that was my beat that unlike one step away from being able to influence policy on that issue. Will all the most important thing to me. But again, it yeah. Would you tell them about North Korea? I mean, I wouldn't even know where to start I would just I think I'd have a lot of mation about helping the psychology had kind of influence them how to basically manipulate them. Also, how evil they truly really and truly are I always to keep that in mind. So it's the dance it's a very delicate dance with them. Do you think he's going to get in trouble with Russia who, which Donald Trump junior? You think he will? I don't know. I don't think so you don't think so Nielsen anybody's over. I don't think it's over. It's not I don't think it's over, because people have after three years of reporting now you can save with a straight face what there were three years reporting over, nothing, if there's smoke there's fire, and blah, blah, blah. So I, I haven't been following it that closely I saw just in a mosh just tweeted out that he had this whole tweet storm that he thinks Trump should be impeached. Who was that just in a mosh is a congressman from Michigan? He's a one of three libertarians. And he turned, he, he's like, I actually read the report, which most people have not in Washington, he'd hundred pages, is it. Yeah. And he's like, I think this is their stuff in here. That's impeachable. This was a big deal. And then all the left. We're like Republic even Republicans like just in a mosh is like, no, no, it's just him. It's not. There's no like it's him. It's literally just like him. Yeah. There's only two like it's the time. Is it like them? It's Thomas mass. And Michael, that's the three of them, rand Paul for rand Paul's of interesting cat. I like him. Well, I was I wanna talk to his neighbor that fucked them up. That that's such a bitch move, such a bitch that is such a bitch Pacult him when he wasn't even look I know. Yeah, I think he had earphones onto. It's a. It's it's a. Not sitting here like some bad ass. But come on what the fuck you doing. Yeah. How about they got kicked Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yes, he kicked. This kid drops kick Donald Schwarzenegger. I think he was crazy, South Dakota and he was saying he was screaming out. Help me. I need a Lamborghini, while they're arresting them. It was the bath salts world star. Hip hop. Made it. He's on look. I mean if that's what he want what really happened to Arnold. Nothing. What's really going to happen to that kid, probably go to jail for actually, I don't know. You don't know. South Africa's look at look at a Otto warmbier in North Korea. He steals a sign then you know what the laws like in South Africa because we think it's not as bad as North Korea. It's not as bad as Korea on guard fucked to my pretty well. Yeah. To second. Listen. If you're if you're drop kicking people out of nowhere. That's the problem when I was talking to Eddy Izard he ran a bunch of marathons in South Africa. Twenty was it was sell to. It was a designation. It was the same number as the amount of years. That Nelson Mandela was imprisoned so twenty seven so he ran twenty seven marathons but there was areas, where they're like, listen, you ain't running through here like this is this area. We're gonna take you gonna put you in a car on a drive. You weigh the fuck passed here and then you keep running, you're not running through here. So you'll get killed you'll get ready. You'll get you get carjacked this. We're all going to get shot. You're not going to here, and that's you know, there's parts of the world that are like that, and Arnold Schwarzenegger when he visited South Africa. What's the worst? You've got drop kicked in with poor technique. Okay. Well, let's say the kid had no follow-through right right barely knocked a seventy-one, first of all, even though Arnold Schwarzenegger, seventy one years old. He's still. A seventy one year old Arnold course he's still at tank, but I even you fall over kid drop KM. He didn't even know. It was coming, right? He gets hit in the middle of his back and he just. And these fine. It's kind of impressive. I got your present. You do. What are you ready? Okay. What do you like best about me? This and I got this, this is the most Joe Rogan thing, this thing, a girl says to you. Right. When she's about to trap you what that's like your personality. I like everything. This is the most Joe Rogan thing I've ever found. What is it? Here you go. We'll got here. Take. What is that? It's a mini museum. So it's got twenty nine different things from all over the universe encased in lucite. Wow. That is fucking dope. Yeah. Wow. Got a piece of the White House piece of the Hollywood sign some Amazon water giant sloth claw. I think. Oh, thank you. You are welcome to that'll go right funk in here. Yeah, here's the book that tells everything. But thank you, very cool. That's where did you find this? I one on one of my rabbit holes in the internet. And I'm like only heard Joe internet rabbit holes. That's dope, dude. Thank you very much. So get the bag. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's a bag for alva- bag. Feel like I needed to have it out, though. Right here. I got mine on split Jessica, so cluttered, this is ridiculous to ever. Keep saying, I'm gonna clean it up. So I'm going to happen. Yeah. So two more about your book. Why are you? Why are you breaking? These buildings that's a dog whistle. That's the dog was to cover. So there's a guy named Ben garrison and he was a regular conservative artist. Right. And he would have drawings about, like Ben Bernanke Ye or Hillary, or whatever the Nazis took his art replaced all of his drawings with Jews. So instead of the great wizard of debt being the fed. It was a Jewish caricature, and they did it perfectly, and they also invented this whole back story about him that he was as closet Nazi. And this poor guy in Montana, if you Google him, it's like not, like, why is this happening to me, and the Photoshop, work is perfect. So eventually, they calmed down. And you know, he now he's kind of a regular cartoonist in the story got out, but that's his artwork. So the people this poor guy who was talking about a victim of Nazis. It's very rare nowadays to have a new victim of Nazis. And he's actually one of them. Well Meam cultures vary string, right? Yes. And those little humorous images that get chucked around. There's a lot of dirtbags that have really. Profited off of other people's me more to like my friend, dawn. He's terrible works. He works from memes site. Yeah. Silencer back, those sites are bad, man. Some of them just flat out steal, and some of them steal. And then they'll attribute somewhere like they'll just say your name and sometimes they don't even say your name. They say a name of a fake account that doesn't even just just tribute to someone. We thought we got it from that person because they know that it's at one hundred different accounts because bunch of people have this guys like you, you'll find something you like, oh, this is funny and you put it up, but then, these people that they make these giant sites with all other people's work, and the curate them they make millions. Yep. Like fat Jewish. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone hates him this. Oh. This is one of you. This is like one of your big issues with people who take content and basically, re re appropriate for themselves. I for sure would stand up comedy. But the thing that's happening with memes is like you're you if someone sends you something, there's a bunch of things that my. Eddie. Bravo sends be hilarious. Ones all the time. He'll send me a funny Meam, and then I'll send it to Brennan shop. I'm not asking who made that me. So joke. Brendan doesn't think that I made it myself. So it's not like I'm stealing joke. But I'm definitely not crediting the original creator because I don't know who the fuck it is right? And those things fly around they fly out so but that's all with in good faith the person with in bad faith. Curates a website and then starts profiting off of it. They find a loophole, and they make deals with comedy central and then they also have people who actually steal standups bits and turn those bits in the memes, and they put those bits on their, their mean pages, and they do the same shit. They'll do it. They just they're content need IRS. They need content. They're whores parasites. Yes. So they just they'll hire people to do it. They in the people that they hire. They'll, they'll steal people's jokes and tournament to me. It's real. It's a real problem. That's, that's I mean that's the. Become a joke because people are like, oh, this is a rare Pepe, right? Police say just like you know, even though you can replicate peppy lawsuits going on. I talked about that in there with the no, the new one that's right now, Alex Jones refused to refuse to settle out of court. So they're going to go to court, they're going to figure out whether or not Pepe Q can use Pepe the frog. But I mean I talk about this in the context of it's like can Andy Warhol uses Campbell Soup can it's the same thing. It's like yes. Someone creates it. But if someone is using it in a kind of a broader satirical context, but it doesn't though because Andy probably couldn't do that today. Yes, he could zoom. We tried to have a lot of money off of Campbell cans corporations had more power back then in less accountability. 'cause now with social media everyone will lose their minds on. Campbell's, right. That's true. That's a good point. I think that you know what they did with Campbell's did when he did this. He paints, all forty flavors of soup cans, right puts him up in a gallery cash. Ambles is like what the fuck is this, like they didn't know what to do? Right. They didn't know who to call this is unprecedented, so they had a storefront, and they had the cans of the window to go. Why pay one hundred grand, you could get here for dollar? So they tried to own it in their own way. That's smart. That's pretty advertising for, I mean gigantic advertising. But that's the other thing is like with this mean culture, people like, oh, Pepe means white supremacy. It's like you can't Campbell doesn't say what a Campbell Soup can means different things. This is not news different things being different things different people. And if you're using it in one context, other contexts aren't legitimate. That's how art and images work. Yeah. I mean that's almost like what happened with the guy in Montana. Right. So his work, and then turns into Nazi stuff, and then all of a sudden, he becomes non right now he has to do with it with peppy the frog because that guy who he's so upset. I know him. Him what they did to him. He had a cartoon where he killed peppy. So all the trolls are like, oh, that's interesting. So they took all his other characters and made them full blown Nazis, so Heinrich who's the wolf instead of having reflections in sunglasses had the SS. They're like, oh, you wanna you wanna throw it out. We'll throw down asshole, and that's what happened here. Wolf has a Nazi name already. Now, they gave him a last names like Heinrich something else, but that name I'll tell you about my God. I know no not seeing what do they call it. That's a Nazi wolf. Navy? They what was the guts hilarious. He thought he could just kill it off. That's like d platforming he thought it was going to d- platform, Pepa, let's, let's suppose I decided to kill off Paul Bunyan, but the fuck how does that mean anything like the idea that he's going to kill it off and they're gonna kill to use it anymore? His name was originally land wolf. So they said, oh, his first name's Heinrich land wolf and Assumpico pull it up and the glasses. Well, maybe we should what your here, but as opposed to what Skywalker. Does that mean the funny thing is about peppy? It was it was always so bland and the lame. Well four it was adopted as a medium like when you say like feels bad man, like it was, like, who this is so low blood sugar bothers me, but it's also the idea of you're saying that because Nazis using it, you can't use it as feels bad man, like right? I if you're giving. Okay symbol, and they're using this way, you can't say, oh, that's okay. Doesn't make any sense. Yeah. You can't say something I go okay mouse, if I do that. That's white supremacy. Yeah, no, everybody for years is a guy, how all series on my Instagram page of people doing the okay. I of course including me back when I had earrings. Ms radio days. Bill Cosby doing the okay symbol, fucking come on, man. You guys know this is not that's not what this is just because people are using it, and saying it is, and they're investigating people are investigating people. There was a guy who is on television. They blurted out. Yeah. They. Assembly. And the other thing is we're at a point now where it's more easy to give the finger to someone that to say, okay. Blur the finger out. Nobody cares. Yeah. But if you do that, like what is he doing touching his fingers? You can't even do like you're holding a joint because that's like a white power giant, if you like doing that. Like a Roach that's bad. That's bad. How do you do you have to use a Roach clip? It's a ploy by the roads clip industry. But there's I have a list, they're all the things that are called racist milk show. Become races, all because the what the trolls do is they make it. Let's see we get them freaking out about milk, and they got it picnic. My favorite one. The trolls dead was the free bleeding movement. Like, that's the greatest thing that people have ever accomplished that they actually got women. No, no, no, no, you're there's too. Confusing. Two things free bleeding was a woman who made it. But there was the pee on yourself. Free. Bleeding was a fortune troll. No, it was the, the girl running a race because she was she was actually smart about it. She said this is to create awareness toward women in third world countries who don't have access to sanitary pads. I, I was reading a whole article on the four Chan creating the free bleeding move. Okay. I could be wrong saving pull that I know there was a legitimate example of the free bleeding. I think that was post them putting it up. They've done a few things like that. They all sat and yourself to fight rape, or hurt because that's one of the big arguments that to fight a rapist that you're actually in that situation. Peon yourself that'll turn away, and it's like you shouldn't give people advice. It's like listen, if she's actually getting assaulted what should she do in that horrible circumstance? And then it's like pee on yourself to show your support for victims sexual assault. Wasn't there, a Senator somewhere that actually said that if it's a legitimate rates hot Aken Todd akin run? This is amazing. Todd Achim is running for Senate in Missouri. And he's pro-life. And they asked him a very common question for life people. What about if it's rape? And he goes, well, that's very rare. And he goes, but my understanding is if a woman is assaulted. The body has a way of shutting it down. Now there's a book called sperm wars. And apparently an on again. I'm crazy scientists don't get mad at me too. That's the books. It's true. No, no. It's been disputed, it's been debunked. Okay. There's no evidence that sperm acts, as anything other than sperm that attacks egg and trust to get pregnant, the claiming that book, is that rape is more likely to result in pregnancy than regular intercourse. The point is he got right out of town on a rail. And then resumes, Lon who said on Twitter, you know what I hope he gets raped. And if you take his comment out of context, it's very disturbing. And it's kind of serving in context, but Raza's response being like this is a response to you being like if you got raped, you're not going to get pregnant, and he got the, the new right went after him reser and. Got him fired from CNN years later, is that what he got fired from shithead? So they're like that. And they use the other tweet. What's really free bleeding stuff has been online? There's an article I found from two thousand four oh crap. So it's been online for a long time, but, but who started it? Picked it up as a troll in two thousand fourteen. Okay. So I started as a real. It's been a thing online for a long time on fess, blogs, two thousand eleven. There's another thing when you. But when you find it in two thousand four was it a troll? No, it was all about my vagina. Yeah. My vets dot net. Yeah. I told you. I knew I got this, right. You got it right to my vaj fortune has too much power long. My vets dot net some ladies experience with free bleeding, so she's just lets her fifteen years ago or bleed Sar. Okay. You got that one. The article was so fucking convincing. That's a problem, and it's a pro, you know. And that's what people in that are arguing for D platforming, or saying when they're like, for deep platforming anti vaccine, or deeply flat, earthers, or anybody who's got information. That's just not accurate in terms of the other things climate change. I held on to my big answer is you guys reported WMD's for a long time and hundreds of thousands of people got killed because of this misinformation. So if that's going to be your standard, you're going to have to deploy from the New York Times as well. So it's a very double edged sword. When you start talking about people give misinformation, they have to be banned from these social media sites. You need someone to be able to check the orthodox point of view, no matter what it is. That's true. There's no denying. That was Jim, this is the poster. That's I didn't know this was about a poster. It's a fair use issue with the pepper and Alex Jones. Oh, put them on. Oh, arguing is fair use, and he's not. Blah, blah, blah, so interesting. It's not just because it's a mean or something. Yeah, there's the poster person behind Alex to, to the left of Alex question. These people are all of them. I don't like a cigarette in their hand or test tube or Tampa. Is that what does that is that a blunt, what is that? So the sharpie ready, someone Alex's back instead of dude, or guy who fog is, who is that? I never body else whatever we could be here for days. Okay. Oh, was, it must be diamond in silk, or two of them whose diamond? And so there are these two black ladies who are Trump's biggest fans and they go social media. They start raising even seen one and drinks blue wind blew on. Yeah. And it's like when you're so sick his blue bullshit. These are shrinking literal Kool-Aid. It's blue. She's got a blue liquid. It's crazy. She's a Trump. Going up there. It's racist. But wait a minute. Maybe she's thinking cooler. But you can get can't get green cooler. I think it's fine wine glass. They have blue I now what? Look at the looks interface. She's always seems sad. I don't know which ones diamond one silk one is always act really upset. The other one just like why am I here? A good move. If you just want attention, if you don't really support Trump sitting there with the green line, just get super outrageous. See. And they testified in front of congress. That's why I love the line. It's like this, this'll every are they testified in front of congressman Facebook censoring people because Facebook is censoring them. They said, would you see what's going on with Alex Jones? If you write Alex Jones, name on Facebook, it says, only you can see this post I do license name. I do livestream Salat, right. And if the livestream was my thoughts on Alex Jones livestream the second, it's uploaded. It's demonetized, and they later has to get re monetize once they seats. Okay. So then default setting is, and that's the other thing of all of these people. Alex Jones is the worst one like you have actual full blown. We need another holocaust types, and he's the villain. Yeah. Well, he's got a big platform. That's the idea. The idea is that he had a big. From staff to the other lie. They're like, oh, blah, blah, blah sandyhook, like you're an upset when the sandy hook should happen. You're getting upset about him now years later, because you're being whipped up into a froth by the corporate press about you weren't flip saying he should be from seven years ago. When was whenever sandy hook when it was something around them, right? Five years ago. Well, it becomes something that is a talking point, right? Like that. He needs to be deep latte formed new user greed, with it or you don't agree with it. And I think that's the case with almost what is happening with our. Something happened up there. Is it the perch? No. Are we the perch? Guys are here messing with electronic. Okay. No. This perch here. Yeah. Okay. Good. No. We have security. I would not do well in perch, you'll be fine, dude. Staying this room this rooms bulletproof, is it. All right. Good. Good to know. Yeah. Alright man okay good. Are you worried about the perch? Now, are you worried about the apocalypse? No natural disasters, not at all nothing tower flares taken out the grid nothing. I mean, there's exonerates going the best books. No more serious radio. This is my response to people on the far. Right. And I'm using that term accurately, there's a great book by Arthur, Herman called the idea of decline in western history, and he talks about, you know, every twenty years. It's a different group on the left on the right and they're like the world's going to end and he brings the receipts and it never ends up happening because people are smart some and we have a huge a symmetry in wanting to stay alive. I the idea that the last, what apocalypse what part of the black plague I would say would be the last apocalypse. We were doing so good so far. Do you know the, the people that got the black pit excuse me? The people that got the black plague because they're eating a marmot liver. So, what was it a liver or they thought it was the fleas from the rats? No, no, no, no, no. There's some recently recently recently got the black play. But it's supposed to be the fleas from the rats. The last time that happened in the United States, I think was in the nineteen twenties, and that was in Los Angeles. Actually, the last evidence of the yeah, but you don't die from it anymore. Oh, you definitely die from it. But they died the twentieth. I think they died in the twenty s thought it's still okay. Maybe the people died this year from the black plague. Oh, eight liver. Okay. Kidney, I think right? Kidding all marmot kidney. Yeah. Marmot. It's like a vol-. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we used to be sixty five million years ago. Yeah. Something weird. Many museums. Little rodent thing. Yeah. These people hate it eight in wind up dying from the plate. What was the point how to point to end the world? Are we? Yeah. You know that idea that. People have always worried about the end of the world, and it never happens share. That's like saying I've always worried about dying, but I never have I'm not going to die. I'm not going to die. I'm not going to be there. You're going to die, but I'm not going to be there. How do you know what do you mean? How do you know you're not going to be there? I mean that's what dying means. Oh, you not going to be there die. Right. So you're not gonna die. Right. Because I'm not going to live or you're not so don't even worry about it. Because when it's over you won't be here. So who cares I wouldn't say, who? So who cares? But I mean if your entire life is focusing on, you know, avoiding death the very bad mindset. Yeah, that's for sure. That's what I'm saying is that I think people are operating with a very small historical time launch, and the more I talked to people like Graham Hancock with describe the overwhelming evidence is something pretty severe happened to the human race around twelve thousand eight hundred years ago, most likely comet impact, or some something along those lines other other people think that it was actually a solar mass, coronal ejection made lightning storms like rainstorms lightning was coming down like rain all over the world and just killed everything. And this thing could happen easily at anytime not easily. Oh, yeah. Easily. Okay. Yeah. Common impact, or asteroid impact easily easily or not easily in terms of likelihood because if it would have easily turn likelihood he would've happened by now. No, no did has happened. There's a lot of evidence that it's happened. It's just we're dealing with a small time line. The ideas could could you get lucky, and it won't happen in the next sixty years or so while you're alive. Yeah. Yeah. Could have an orbit hit tomorrow that could happen to okay. I'll take that bet. It's good bet. I mean it's good. Look your perspective is good. That's good to not worry to not look at it because when you when you're have power if you don't have powered affect combat, as I personally, don't true knowing its coming who could be radically. What can I do it just live? And I one of my heroes Albert, Camus, great French philosopher, his point about living to the point of tears. Right. And I think really I find sad in this culture is cynicism and hopelessness, and it's like we're blessed, you know, we have this I mean, there's beyond beyond the internet. You can find people who are making. Amazing things more opportunities than you can count. And if you're just going to sit there and mope I mean you're blowing this great gift that God's giving you. Yeah. I think a lot of those people that are moving the are concentrating entirely on the negative aspects of life. They're doing themselves giants and the it's almost like they can't help it. I think there's a lot of people that are affecting the way culture shifts today that are probably clinically depressed. And one of the things I resent, enormously about culture is aside. If something is joyous, or fun. It's less. It's less legitimate artistically, and that is such a disgusting, horrible mindset, and we need more, joy and more happiness for me because I want to see Joe last night. Okay. Yeah. Do you know that is you don't know who that is? She's a YouTube star my nine year old loves are. So how. How to go to Josie was birthday concert last night. Okay. At the Microsoft center fuck that is because ran into the airport loves her too because bird has young daughters to. Yeah. She's all about positivist believe in chief fun times. I'll upload a video later. It is. It is it all. Is it all like saccharin like Disney stuff or is it sincere saccharin is a gal? I don't like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Yeah. She was taken old Queen songs, and reworking, the words, cleaning them up. She's like those name people out. She what she's cleaning. She's toning down Queen song on downs Queen song. This woman's the devil. How dare you take someone's art and an appropriate it and make it like take out all the energy. Yes, she this corporate culture at its worst. But she's doing it for three year olds, bro. So to five year olds, don't need to be listening to Queen over. Oh, Jesus Christ. Loves Freddie Mercury. It's problem. Now, she doesn't if she loved him, she'd respect him. She's fucking twelve she no. Oh, she's sixteen. Excuse me. She didn't know any better doesn't know better. How smart were you? When you were sixteen smart enough, not to try to rewrite Queen. I bet she doesn't have a say in it. I bet whoever's, pulling the strings gets her to what makes it even more nefarious. Of course, the Disney people are the sensors that they've ever it is the producers. Am I wrong? Here's the lie. Where's the lie? What song was it? They to, to turn remember. They did. We are the champions. She sang that this campus. I mean someone's the loser. Yeah, no time for losers. Was that change? They're not what I don't think this change that. No time for recess. Oh my God. This is horrifying. Those videos this is like those videos. They made for like Mormons where they took like Hollywood blockbusters and cut out all the sex and all the cursing. Yeah. And it's like you are evil vampires horrible monsters. She did crocodile rock Elton John. Okay. And she changed rainbow Chevy to rainbow beamer, so crocodile rock. You know, my theory is that song, I tweeted this out years ago. I just imagined Elton with a bunch friends all getting highs fuck. Right. And they're like, all right. Let's try to think of fucked up lyric, and Eric Elton. You're gonna make a song about it. They're like have like, like crocodile rock, and he's like, all right. I'll fuck do any fucking sits nails. It the fuck is that even mean what does that mean? But I'll tell you what, man, the word crocodile means something different to me, after watch that black mirror episode titled crocodile. I haven't seen it. Holy shit. If you're listening to this lays gentlemen and you have a sensitive, heart, and you can't handle really fucked up premises and a really fucked up episode like her. Fans don't want yet. Don't watch it 'cause it's rough. It's really good though. It's but it's like holy shit. It's one of those ones where the I'm not giving away anything. But at the end when you're when you're done with that show, you feel like fucking shower like, whoa, geez. It's Dr okay. There's nothing to do with the reptiles. I do like dark. It's just dark. It's dark. I just read this book by this woman Cynthia car called fire in the belly. It's, it's the life story of this artist. David one hero at try to know anything about and he was in New York in the early to late eighties. When aids was coming up. And as she tells his life story, you hear the story of aids percolating through this culture, and that book is dark as fuck because she'll have a scene where he's like, oh, he had dinner and the and the next sentence. Keith haring died on this day at age thirty four and you realize this sort of, like for them like they're hanging out, phone rings, Kice dead. These are men who are the symbols of really early late twenties early thirties, just dropping like flies. And the thing is there watching each other die knowing I'm next that's going to be mean a year from now and they're getting dementia before they die. So they're talking all crazy at age thirty. So this book really fucked my head really badly were giving them easy t- to yell ya didn't help nobo- allows later at first, they're like, we don't know what the fuck to do. Good luck. And it's like we're dying like, oh, sorry, suck dick. It's like what the what the west wants to do? Yeah, they were calling the gay cancer. They didn't know what it was they. And, and then when they were trying to fight for education people like what we're not going to teach kids about sucking, dick. They're like, dude. We're dying and they're like, oh, sorry about it. And is this book really got with buckets, my head, especially because, you know, it's real. Yeah. Did you ever hear a bug catchers, of course about chasers chase chasers? That's again, we're talking about things that are just fucked up about human beings. When you look at the spectrum of behavior bug chasers people who tried. Yes, eight Matvey, right? Because they wanted the ultimate symbol of being gay. Well, I'm sure that the bunch of reasons that was the big reason. Well, there's probably the app, but probably they felt bad that other people had it, and they wanted it and there's other people that just wanted it because they're crazy and other people hated themselves. They wanted there's also that guide Germany, who's, like I want to cut off someone's dick and eat it and someone signed up for it. No. He said, I want to want someone to cut off my dick and eat it. And I want them to eat me, right? Someone said, sure, let's meet up. Yeah. I got it wrong. And so the guy cut his dick off, and they both shared his dick, and then kill the dude and start eating them. And then they arrest them and they didn't know whether to charge him because as voluntary. Yeah. It's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't not a fan but I mean you still like. You can't that's murders. Like it either is murder is not murder. Like, if a if you're in a gay relationship with the guy and the guy says, okay. This is what I want you to do. I want you to beat me up and raped me. He like. Okay. Can you get that? And writing can you write down, what you beat me? And then, you know, if the cops come, there's like he'd beat me up, and he raped me, bro. Listen, here, he wrote it right here. He made a videotape. You didn't use show the video and use your safe word. He said he wanted me to beat him up and the cops are probably let you go. But you can't murder right? You know what I'm saying because consensual sex is ABS, obviously legal. So if you have consensual sex with someone it's legal, but if you pretend to be fighting them off, right. And then they'll sex you. It's fun. It's role play but murders. Never role play. You know, I found when I was doing research for the book, the national review, who's my favorite paleontology journal in the late nineties as the gay rights movement was coming up into mainstream consciousness. They wrote an article comparing the struggle for gay rights to a struggle for necrophilia like, we'll be the difference. Like if I and they talked about how right now in the European Union perverts are fighting for the. Right to be violent towards each other in bed in various ways. It's like yeah. It's like rough sex. It's Jason vanilla sex. And now, the, the articles are the conservative case for gay marriage. It's like you guys have no fucking shame. Then and you've no fucking shame. Now at least be consistent. One of the things that disturbed me greatly today is there is a movement, and I don't know how big it is. But it's a movement for people to try to recognize pedophile as a sexual distinction sexual designation rather than a sick disease that similar to being trans, or being gay, or that some people are just born pedophile. Well, I think what's important there is. It's not just a crime because a crime can be fixed untreated. And so, I think it is important to understand, these people will always psychologically be pedophile and you're not going to get them to be like straight, you know, hormone, no therapy, that's ever been shown that I think it's like trying to make someone who's gay straight. Is it really that understanding if that's the case, then is there, an argument that we should be more compassionate with them as long as they don't act on that? But that's the danger because the other thing what they don't understand is. From their point of view. Those kids are giving consent which they are right. The kids saying, yes. So they're like, look, maybe that's what's scary. The do. Right. But they, they don't think such tour raping thing and I knew of this, this is what I interned at a place long ago. And there was a librarian, who worked there like a Guido type, you know, and grow or guy, guy and years later, he was arrested. He was a schoolteacher. He was arrested in undercover sting trying to meet a kid who he knew was thirteen or twelve in a park. The try to sleep with him. Right. This was Janine Pirro, who later became a FOX commentator. He got out of jail, and I see him on Facebook, he's married with kids and it's just like you think it's fine that that's scary shit. That's insane and it's another thing to be switched gender to if you're going for young boys, you're going to go to, like regular aged women. I don't see how that would work. Right. Right. And this is something that's such a taboo topic. That. I don't think once it's for a lot of people correctly. Once you start talking about kids and sexuality their hackles raise. It is a PC subject because it's like, why even introducing this into the conversation where you going with this? It's a very, very, very slippery slope. Well, if you're trying to say if they're trying to say that this is something that people are born with, I don't think there's evidence that people are born that way, I think there's evidence that people become that way from sexual abuse. Yes. That's true too. Absolutely. I think it's proper never heard of anybody that grew up in a normal. Household wasn't abused is that the case in my not in a position to talk about this at all. I think we've probably very few cases of pedophile on the record explaining how they came to this point of view. Right. Of e in either situation, born or abuse. I can't see how this is something that's going to be. An emotion level you're going to be able to turn them away. Well, it's also a super the idea of that being in your neighborhood. Yes, this is in your neighborhood. You've got this guy who likes to fuck kids and he promises not to do it anymore. They did a few times. They locked him up in a cage, now he lived down the street and locked up in a cage where he was traumatized, also further traumatize. Oh, yeah. So and also, if you promise not to do it, but knowing when he's looking, he's checking out my son or my daughter. Yeah. I did not expect. We're talking about this city. I of course. That's. The fucking the that the human mind can be that it'd be imprinted near abused when you're younger that you go on to do that. Same thing that was horrifically done to you. That, that is a common thing that happens with children and get abused doesn't make sense to you. It does make sense to me. It's like that way on nine wasn't abused. I was enjoying it could be right. That way. It takes away the trauma, 'cause it's like, oh, this is how I've always been. So it was okay. Nothing happened to me. And you don't have to deal with the trauma that way. Well, that's what my low and when he was talking about being sexually abused as a child. Right. I think that's what he was kind of doing. I'll say I was a predator. And I, I was going out for the price. Talk like that in the book because news anyone other Milo people because he was older. He wasn't like twelve he was like whatever eighteen he's I think he was. I don't remember how old no, no. He's eighteen is fine. It wasn't eighteen but it wasn't twelve. I think he was a teenager. But if it was somebody else, people talking ahead or normativity. Right. Historically, not that weird. An older gay dude to get the younger gig is, especially when everyone was closeted to initiate them into the lifestyle this thing, but it's Milo now. It's all my God. You want pedophilia, blah, blah? It's like there's different standards for gay people the frustration people, and that's the procreate and acceptable, and people understand that in other contexts, well, the problem is society as the way we understand human beings, and the way persons brain works when you're young, you shouldn't be allowed to make those decisions because sexually in particular you could get coerced, you can you can you can wind up doing something that you don't want do can be straight guys are fourteen years old share talked into having gay sex by a very charismatic forty year old man who gives them things the ideas that this is a bad thing for the boy. It's bad thing because you wouldn't want to happen to girl. Why would you wanna happening to avoi- but I think it's a very different phenomenon for thirty year old man to sleep with thirty gay man to sleep with a sixteen year old gay man as for thirty boy sure as opposed to thirty year old game. Straight man to sleep with a sixteen year old straight girl. I think he can make that argument that it is a little bit different. I still think it's okay I'm not saying it's okay, I'm just saying there's clearly it's different. It's different, especially if the boys like very, very seriously gay, which, you know, everyone four highschool. Remember, he's not a virgin, right? True to that. I the first guy for that girl fuck with her head for her life for many women for him. It could be wasn't us first. Yep. That's a very big difference, too. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to be the first guy. That's a lot of work. I don't even mean with gay straight to I don't think I ever had a virgin in my life. I've never had a virgin. Thank God so much work. I connected if you like forever. I physically reach much work. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I mean I should probably clarify. Yeah. I mean, being connected the two significant you want to be, like, the third guy, you don't want to be the first car grow sex with your always my first. Michael, I'll never forget. I always thought that we were supposed to be there forever, and never because I believe in movies, and fairy tales that you were and I listened to the Queen songs with the nice lyrics worth chooses. He was concert cheese playing. Everything's like a movie. Yeah. You. Yeah. That's the thing right? Like people do get emotionally attached to romantic stories that they see in movies, and they want their life to play out like this fictional narrative, and the left uses this a lot because they'll have all these leftist ideas and culture in movies. And that's where a lot of people get their programming. And then it's like, for example, here's an idea. You don't see in culture that people very often knowingly and consciously do the wrong thing that happens every day, people know they're doing something fucked up. You don't really see that, that much in, like TV and movies. And that's a right wing message that like, you know, people sometimes are basically, evil. And yet can run into someone at that point in their life, their evil. That's a fact. Yes, sure that exists all over the world or like I and it's also even on a small scale like if you're in an office and someone's getting chewed out, and they're getting bullied, for whatever reason, and you're sitting there and you keep your mouth shut you're not Hitler, but, you know, you're doing the wrong thing. But you're trying to protect your job. Right. Sure. The balls to come down. You let a lot of times that you have that space and you still won't do it, and that's knowingly doing the wrong thing. And I'm not saying you should be throwing the garbage but I'm saying people do that all the time these little sacrifices they make with their conscience. So it's true. And you don't see that really represented. And that's an important idea for people to understand that people are often weak. Yeah. And always especially if you're going check to check always worried losing your job, losing your gig. Yeah. That's a real big thing with people, I was on vacation, once and there's this guy who's a boss, and he was there with his employers, employees, family, and he was mean to his employees's daughter, fine watched the guy had a take it. He's just talking shitty to her, and it was just it was really gross because you can see the dynamic play out. He was just as mean old guy, this really shitty. It was it was it was disturbing. See this week, man like just having to accept the fact that this guy is shitty to his daughter. And he was giving her a lecturer and berating her and doing it publicly. Like my God. That's an is this for you. Wanted to grow up to be is this job worth? It was. So I wanted to step in as like just one tell the guy shut the fuck up. It's driving me nuts. I remember when I was back before I started being an author, I was working Goldman, and it was a very stressful job. And I had my review and they said oh, you know, if you have downtime. Sometimes we see you going online, we want you to help the laptop lab. And I just go no as he goes, what I said, I wasn't hired to do laptops. I'm not interested in learning laptops. And there are the job is very intense and high stress. So if I've downtime, I'm going to, you know use the downtime. And the look on her face was just like as if I just been outed myself as a pedophile what did it mean? But use the I was doing laptop the lab lab. Right. So I was doing tech support so, like, Microsoft Word. Excel people had problems, they would call on the fly, you've got to have an answer for that. But it's very, it's like quiz show, you live quiz show, and then there's a laptop lab, people checking out laptops. They're setting up laptops, which is a very different skill set. Something I didn't really know setting up in terms of downloading. Sure. Yeah. I you know what? We're, I didn't know then it's still don't know. I didn't I don't fuck what you know now. I'm not I'm not interested in working as hard as possible. It will also like when you have. Downtime with did they want you to work extra at the point is the phone rings or it doesn't ring right job? That's my job. My job's to get off the phone as fast as possible because their problem solved. So there would they were saying was while you were doing this other job in waiting for something to come up. We want to keep you working the specifically different job, correct? Yeah. Now corporations man. That's right. Squeeze that rock, right? And it's like why am I busting my ass to make Goldman Sachs that extra five dollars value fuck? And I'm so proud of myself that are you after that they fired because I refuse to work, and thanksgiving because my grandma had died, so I wanted you to work on thanksgiving. We were twenty four seven by twenty it's, it's a help desk a wow, but you must have shifts I was second shift, four PM to midnight. Right every night Monday through Thursday. Okay. And they go we're having you in on Thursday during the day. Thanksgiving Day, and I'd promised and I work second shift. So they wanted me four to midnight, then in there at nine and I said, no, I promised my grandma, I'd have thanksgiving dinner with lunch with her. I could've called by grammar schedule. I don't wanna be that guy. Because I knew this is one of those things that like the fork wrote a crossroads in your life, and they go. We'll find someone else to cover your shift and I asked everyone else had plans, and they go, well, we need you midnight the second next day for lunch. And I said, no. And they fired me and I'm very, very glad I did that and I had lunch with grandma her mom had just died. Are they allowed to fire you for that? If it's not your shift. She, of course, the are, of course. Well no the shift every week they got the calendar. Right. Oh, I see. So you wasn't you didn't have a specific shift like Michael every day. You come in at eight o'clock. It been, I usually did, or for Clinton when you had holidays things have to change. And I'm like, well, I don't care and I and no regrets. Well worked up it did. But did you ever think that you'd be like this? What are you, what, are you pundit? I'm a I'm an author media personality. I think's the worst said, troll, though, media, I went right to myself that you wanted to be troll. First thing you think it, it's like if someone says, like what do you do you like troll an author now? What actually you know what I say when people ask him what I do. I say, you know, those obnoxious people who have a job giving their uninformed opinion. That's me. That's what I usually interesting. Isn't it funny? That, that's a job. All you have to do is be kind of entertaining and have an interesting way of looking at things, it's great. This is what I'm talking about being blessed. And I don't take it for granted. And the fact that, like people pay my rent because of my sick burns on Twitter on patriots, his burn sick, furnace, and you used to be a Microsoft, help Representative for Goldman Sachs. Yeah. Was it Microsoft, just Microsoft all the Microsoft products you do use windows? I do do you. You don't use apple. I don't seem guy. You seem like I use an Android phone too. I haven't enjoyed a little bit of a contrarian. I have a little bit. Yeah. Do you like windows because the people that use Macs or just like following the sheep heard I use windows, because that's what I was professional online. So I haven't changed in all this time. The only thing that bugs me about windows have to constantly be updating. You turn that shit off. You have to turn that shit off. Why? Because up to sometimes it's crashed my computer. Oh updates. Yeah. I'm not rolling that fear of the computer restart. How often do you update your software? Never. But what if they fix? Like vulnerability they're going to they're going to invent new words. It's fine. It's fine that they get the squiggly line when I write the word me what I worry about is like vulnerabilities to the system. I have everything backed up in three places. I'm a crazy person like that. Okay. So you ready to rock and do you run some d Rana VPN now? No. And I'm and I'm hiring that shit to would you would you say that on there a shit? They're gonna think I'm gonna get swat. It get you gotta get swan Apayart. They're gonna fucking your. I mean, Madonna with the I Gotcha. Get Madonna has an ipad thing. See, I think it's a fashion thing, but it could be a glaucoma thing. Skype. Patch? News. She just a fantasy flick. Rick. Do you know? Who's do you know my favorite comedian? Neil hamburger. Yeah. Sure. A love Neil. I he's my absolute favorite comedians hilarious. His jokes is what do you call a senior citizen who can't help but expose their genitalia in public? Donna. And he says L sad. Oh. That's a weird act. He's so funny. Oh, he's the best. It's strange strange acts like he's just basically Tony Clifton. Yeah. As, as a stand up, but better, but better much better material better presentation. Talk about Kaufman in the book because he's the first troll. Andy was the first shore. And there's this great he had this character, Tony Clifton, people don't know who's just like angry lounge singer and Tony did this bid he would perform, I think it was an Olympic city and he said, hey, my wife died whenever I look at my daughter's Stephanie's is I see her. So let's seventy come commodity here. Do song sits on his lap. They sing her voice cracks. He smacks across the face. He goes fucking it up. The audience is booing goes, don't Bill. You're just gonna make a crime more. And it wasn't even a kid. It's an actress it. You know what I mean? It was just beautiful drilling. Well, he used to call me to go onstage, and sing the mighty mouse theme song like just the mighty part. Yeah. You come to save the day. Day he did the special. And I think it was ABC refused to air for two years. And one of the parts it was like pee wees playhouse. He's fees playhouse. He had a girl from Santa music, and she's like, oh, she started his, you know, restart a career he called it has been quarter and she comes out he goes. So at what point did you realize you weren't gonna make it in show vis this Ivy is just she's it on it, you know? But it's your city. Oh my God. Even if you're in on it's gotta sting and she's like actually real. I'm trying to restart my career. He goes, well, I don't think it's going to happen for you. But good luck at it. You're just like oh my. Well how about when he was wrestling women. That was a sexual thing. But I'm sure yeah. But it was also trolling. Is it? Screaming and yelling that part but yeah, yeah. But I thought I'm not a fan of the fucking people at the wrestling arenas. They wanted to kill him. Yeah. They wanted to fucking kill him. I thought it was real. I got delves Ziglar coming up on my show tomorrow, and he's like he come came out once dressed, as the undertaker and the audience when he pulls off that head really brewing goes, oh, you thought it was really going to be him. You only see once a year so he fuck it comes dressed this other wrestlers just the troll the audience I love that shit. Well, when you got to think also when Kaufmann was doing this, there was real discussion as to whether or not wrestling was real. Yeah. Does the different time? Yeah, it's amazing. You look back at these arguments that people like oh, yeah, yeah. It's totally fucking real. No. He was taking Tito, it's really though was fascinating though. Because with the rise of 'em. Yeah. I just saw like the w Madison Square Garden. We know what the dynamics of fighting looks like right. But the wrestlers it's still the same motions. It's like we know. That if you hit someone here how they actually react, because we've seen it time for real. So you guys are still like if someone punches you in the neck, you're not gonna be passed out of the floor was also some wrestlers got upset because I was explaining that a figure four leg lock doesn't work. Not only does it not work, but you're setting yourself up for he'll hook. Okay mic. Let me explain. Yeah. Yeah, they were mad. Like how dare you disrespect wrestling, what it's also like if you close line someone that's going to hurt, you know. No, no, that's not really, if someone two hundred pounds hits me here. It's not gonna hurt my shoulder. No, no. Okay. They're not know what the fuck. I'm talking about. How fuck you up with a clothesline. How do you just hitting someone that the head your forearm? You could fuck somebody close on really hundred percent in the neck, one hundred but it's not gonna hurt you know, I mean it might okay time you punch. Somebody, you could break Shamsher. But no. Are you close on someone that it's totally legit? Not only that people get Kayode from that all the time. It's like a like a. A leg. Like if you kick someone in the neck, right? Like if someone gets net kicked they go out of the times, you do that with your arm. Same thing. Same motion. You shin is stronger fresher, than your forearm, but especially this way. See there's two bones. Right. The owner and what's the fibia? No, that's your leg. Okay. Tibias. I broke the fibula the, the smaller one or the tibia, which one I broke the little one, which one's the big one, which one's your in your, your femurs, the top, and then the hidden. I think it's the Phoebe ally broke I broke the one. What's that? Tibby is the bigger one. Yeah, I broke the smaller one fucking gross. It was really painful. And they couldn't do anything about it. It just it was just a hairline fracture. Oh, see. That guy. Just thought she clothesline by this, dude. Boom. Okay. That's right up. Wow. Coddle doesn't know how to land it. Look, he went down with it, too. He probably broke his fucking arm. That's broke his arm. Say barely using his arm. It definitely works. Okay. Yeah. Like in, in the UFC. Well, the thing is, like my point was, I think the big, where's the big bone was the little bone? I think in the front this happens all the time. Guys, get kicked in this bone breaks, actually sometimes both of the bones break. But with a spinning back fist when they're landing at a lot of times they're landing with their with their forearm. Letting landing it with the actual fist. Let about three hundred savage. If you're jumping off the top rope on your elbow, won't you break your elbow or kill the person. If your landing on his. Check, you will hurt him for sure. And you'll slamming down the elbow. It's definitely got more force. But when you're getting on top of someone and you're smashing with elbows, which you can do you can generate incredible amounts of force. If you ever watch a guy workout on the heavy bag with the heavy bags on the ground. They work the ground and pound just bum bum. I mean you think about that being. Yeah. Can head? It's crew. But if you're two hundred pounds to fifty jumping up a rope on bought the small point I would think that would break something in there it could could just really hurt hitting them though. He's yeah. It doesn't hit them. Right. Sure. But if that were for real. But just that first of all the reality is just that alone. I mean, even though he only like bounces off of them a little bit. Yeah. He's, he's just got it down where he lands. First with the defeat. If you watch the impact, if you slow you right down the feet land first and then he's absorbing all of it. And just he lands, the, the side of his body on the guys check. Okay. But it's a secondary impact. Boom, see he collapses to it's like e one two and he doesn't hit him that hard. But he hit some hard enough that it sucks. Ain't fun to be arrested. Yeah. It's, it's a tough gig. But that shit would work. Clothes lining someone would work. It's just not ideal. The ideal thing to do someone's palm them in the face. If you get close lineman, you could also just Paul them in the face. That's that the good thing about the palm in the face. Is that first of all extremely difficult to break your palm, like this think about what you can do? Okay. This is the oak table. And I'm slamming my hand into I have no pain at all. You can't do that with any of the part of your body. You can't kick it like that, if with your shin, you know, you can't punch at like that with your knuckles, even your elbow kind of hurts more than your pomp. The palm could really fucking funny zone to. Yes. But you could fuck somebody up in the noble, though, in tie. It's one of the eight points of contact, but a palm strike some charged Yankee just Mack and. You could have a tremendous impact on your hand and still get away with it and knock someone out, John, half woman who is chocolate. Dell's former trainer trainer of I actually current trainer free still works out trainer clover to share just one of the best guys in may. He has these little videos on his Instagram. I think it's the pit or pit master pit master on Instagram, talking about street self-defense things, and he's always advocating hitting people with your palm so people break their hands. All it's not the whole thing hit him in the nose to kind of. That's not real. That's not real the idea of drive the bone up. So. So you'll break their nose, not that you're gonna kill them. But, like that's the easiest self-defensive anywhere. Even the side of the head. But the is hitting them with the palm. I thought we were gonna say when I said, that's not real. There was one where kids it was like a karate movie guy would hit the palm up to the knows the nose bone would go into the brain would kill someone that happened in like a Seagal movie smash him in the nose. I thought you were gonna say that, but the ideas that you could just without worry of consequences. You could palm strike someone in the face, like really hard and never break your hand a regular person throwing a punch. You have a real good chance of breaking your hand. Okay. Real good chance. Like if you crack someone in the forehead most likely you're gonna break, your hand rest or something else. But with your palms, you could just fucking waylay somebody, you could smack the shit out of somebody look kind of silly. There was an organization that m may more organization back in the early days called pancreas. I think they might be still around, but they have modified rules. But pancreas back in the day they were wrestling shoes. Shin pads and the warlike little tiny little Speedo and they would smack each other with their hands. So they'd kick and punch, and do submission techniques was fairly crude in comparison to today's Emma, mayor. But we got to see a lot of leg locks back then, and there was there was some fishy fights to. But my point is like boss rootin-, and was the first guy figured out, how to really fuck people up with palm strikes and what he did is he has really flexible wrists. He's a bad ass striker. So he learned how to pull his hands way back, and he would just throw them like punches. He would just do the same motions that he would do with a punch, but just smash guys with his with his palms and he was lighting people up like a Christmas tree with that. It's horrific to what he fucked. He Kayode a bunch of people with his palms CB watch. Boss. Rootin- KO put put boss. Rootin- Cao's Funaki, he Kayode Funaki, who is like an elite, MMA fighter who is Hickson gracie's last opponent when Hicks in was fighting. But for knock, you think started out in Pank, rayson, boss. Rootin- Kayode him. And the way Kayode him was like like like a punch. But he was doing it with his palms just smashing people it's like your hand. Like there's a lot of things you think wouldn't work clotheslines, one of them that shit would work. Okay. That's my point not the honky-tonk bands. Move, though. What's the hundred dollars shake rattle and roll, it just flip them on his back. It's like why even hurt? You don't remember this? You didn't watch wrestling eighties. We'll have about the DDT here. So here's boss that knee. Yeah. The backup before that backup before that here watch watch how he's hitting him. He's, he's used boss was fucking gorilla back, then the size them. See smacking the shit out of him. He's using his see always hitting him when he's throwing them like punches, but this knees. What did it boom? Yeah. Boss was a beast. Man. He was a fucking beast. He was probably the first really elite striker that we saw an Emma may where you're like whoa. This is what can happen like when he was kicking. People in pancreas. Everybody was, like, whoa. Like this is this guy can fuck and kick. Like you're seeing a lot of guys who are kicking kind of like karate bay. Maybe they didn't have as much power. But boss was he was a Dutch kickboxer. He was smashing people. Boom he looks area. He was a bad motherfucker motherfucker. He wanted the UFC heavyweight title. He was the first guy ever, I think, in my recollection to win. Title off of his back by from strikes. He fought Kevin random and Kev random as a bad ass wrestler kept taking them down and boss was beating the shit out of him from the bottom throwing elbows. And they gave him a decision which a lot of people disagreed with. But I was like men. You look at the volume strikes landed we more you, you just just being on top side. Good enough. You have to actually do something with position. Okay. This is not a Subject Road. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah. This is this is the old school, but you gotta realize body, kick fucked people up man. Bus route and was no joke man dude, he was in people up. And they nobody had seen anything like that. This those guys just couldn't strike like that. They didn't have that kind of power, you'd see the impact. But then, you know like all things it caught up. Yeah. Good Lord USC. Then they got him. There was some elite fighters to start showing up in the USA dove eat smashing machine marker marker. Yeah, he was different man. He was a wrestler, he was a wrestler slash science project. He was used up real good. God. That's to put. It mildly is a great documentary on, especially she saw. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing it caught him. They, they were that documentary. The purpose of it was initially to catch him as the scariest fighter on the planet, this guy, who's just this Goliath who just dominating people in Japan. But in the process of documenting it, he was falling apart. And that's him when he was his biggest he was his, his neck would start at his ears. What can of and he was very skillful as well. I mean just really Aircon wrestler, that right, the elite wrestler, and just just gigantically that upper left hand picture, upper left, look at that one sT one. Yeah. But click on that. That's the one I started why. No, that's different. It's very different the same photo. No, it's not. It's just different facts photo. But look at that one looks like shit, go to the other one again. That's a different version of it. The fucking Jesus Christ. That isn't saying the fact that a person could get to look like that. That is insane. There's guys that look like that at my gym fuck you all harbor fitness. We're listening to this show in the locker room while my scrawny ass. It's right there. You don't even notice me you wonder like what it's like walking around looking like that. But you can find out if you took all those same steroids. Yeah. But they're also like six. Yeah. You'd be a mini version of. Yeah. Yeah. Likely pres. Yeah. Do you lift weights? Yeah. What kind of shit? Do you do? I have a split six days a week. Do you have a trainer? Yeah. Oh, we'll go off trying to shut to Michael Wolfe. Yeah guy. Yeah. It was a deadly, but it's also important for me psychologically, and for people who are depressed or anxious, I've sums, I'd have a lot of downtime. So if I go to the gym, I can tell my brain I'm objectively a better person than yesterday. And I did something today. So it really helps with keeping you mentally grounded. I'm never gonna get jacked. But I, I learned this from not Hughes and that he was the first one to take me to Jim really Matthews. I want to take you to author's book. Why I realized I don't have to look like Mark Kerr, I could still look like a better version of me. Yes. And when you have that realization it's, it's very liberating the mental health benefits. Yes, Antic, and people need to realize that. And the thing is other people who are, like, really like the first day I went I was all nervous. And I know what I'm doing. And there was a guy. I wish I could thank him. He's like, don't this machine. And I'm like, yeah, he goes, thanks, brother. All right. No one who's judging you everyone's doing their own shit. And if you're if you're happy, you're working out. And if you're fat everyone's cheering you on. They they're like fuck. Yeah, you're getting good for you. The opposite of what people would think yet. So no one cares. It's I really recommend. Yeah, there's a lot of gyms have a good culture of support a good culture of encouragement. You know, like this reason why a lot of people that are on Instagram are fitness, people that are also motivational. Yeah, this is the culture of these communities. Like when you see people doing reps. Come on. You got you got. You got it like that sort of support is, there's something to there's endorphins get released when you're all pushing each other together. I mean, that's one of the big Russia's of martial arts training is that you're, you're pushing each other you work out together. And then afterwards over you just everything seems to be more normal, and seems more rational, people follow me on Twitter, instead, like Jack faithful, and they give me advice. And they're very supportive that, yes. That's the thing. That's the real big misconception. I guess from those movies, the size of rom coms will tell you that the guy who's like a big guys a bully. And sometimes he is. But most of the people who are like serious about fitness. They want other people to be like, come on this, this'll be great for you. Yeah. I think most people's experience with bullies is really high school stuff. Right. It's like jocks in high school in lot of them are just as we're saying insecure and a lot of them are also probably probably their experience. It's, it's at home from their dad, and I think that's changed a lot because thanks to the internet now. I think the jocks. Respect the nerds, a lot more when I was working with Hughes and I met all those fighters, they could not be friendlier, or more like, hey, you're you're doing your thing. I do my thing I can relate to that. That's awesome. So there was no a look at this pussy or whatever like that. Yeah. Well, fighters are a lot nicer than people think, but there because they're so disciplined is that for sure. And they know what it's like to get their ass kicked and it's humbling, muscle Yama, who's a famous karate guy. He, he said, it's not that fighters are any nicer is cut tika. He was calling it, you know, karate practitioners were any nicer. It's just tired from training. He might be right. But they do behave nicer because of that. It's, it's both. But I think it's also one of the things I love about the internet. Is that if you're doing your thing now, people respect someone else's doing their own weird thing as opposed to when we were kids, there'd be that one weirdo? Like I, I had this tweet. There's two types of people, right? If you learn someone is a Guinea, pig breeder, and there's two approaches. You're weird. What the fuck is wrong with you or sit down and tell me everything, and I'm very much and people who follow me are the second one. It's like you're doing your thing. It's gives you join passion. I've never heard of it. Let me know. I wanna know to wants to episode of Anthony board Danes, old show was called no reservation. And he was in. I forget, what country was, but these people bred Guinea pigs for food. Oh, yeah. Something. Erica, kathy's. Yeah. They had Guinea, pigs running around the house, or they were all over the place. Yeah. And then when they wanted to cook something they reached down grabbed Guinea pig. Just picked it up killed cooked, it all the other can you picks fucking? Oh, yeah. But they don't it's, it's, it's a good argument for eating Guinea, pigs. So they don't seem to miss their friend. I just got a someone just pay pal contribution three hundred bucks, Adam. And he says, go out to dinner by something stupid. Chebbi Guinea, pigs. Hold on. No better. If someone says this is for stupid things. I'm like, all right. It's an order. It's your money. So I bought some stupid things give you some money. I got this, and I'm like elephant is unethical. There's, they recognize themselves and mirror. They have a social structure this giraffe. It's stupid. I got direct leather wallet. Let me see. Uh-huh. But it's nice and it's Stitcher wraps, her so nice. They're, they're dumb their cows. Are they dumb or they just Don their dump their sure positive to run scientists tests? Knife, friend owns my friends. Parents each one zoo, and I've gone with him to different drafts are very dumb. But they're so peaceful that the little kids feed them at the zoo, that's one of the only animals where they let people feed him. That's true and they just reach out with their tongue. Never forget that my daughter was like to take it into the zoo, and her giggling, and laughing amazing, the big crazy tongue comes out and grabs the lettuce they can clean their ears with their tongue. Yeah. I would that was a joke that he's to have about how they're the only animal that I could point to. That's a wild animal that doesn't seem to have any problem with domestication. Yeah. When they're at the zoo, they're like another day with no lions and just strolling around. Did you have to eat them at blue planet where the lines are trying to kill the wrath in the desert? And he's just kicking him in the face dude. They kick them and break their jaws, Joe really dangerous for lions when they fuck with zebras or draft. Yes. Wrap zebras. Well, yeah. But whenever there fuck with any animal with hooves. That's probably one of the reasons why they have hubs. Know it's like a weapon, same like they have Antlers. I mean it certainly helps them. Traverse difficult terrain and helps them. Run protects her feet. Where where do you draw the line when it comes to like leather or different animals? It's good question. Yeah. I. I've gotten very, very interested in elephants in terms of like their social structure, and what they're like in learning about how intelligence are and how long the memory isn't. I don't want to have anything to do with elephant leather ivory. Pre-obama Q a long time ago that had elephant ear as a rap. Okay. And I didn't think anything of it. But now. Yeah, I that's my line like they have elephant wallets and I was like, no I'm not comfortable with this. Here's the thing, man, pigs are super fucking smart. Pigs are real sweet. And when you domesticate them like people have domesticated, pigs that alongs are well fed they behave a lot like dogs, the only difference being of course if you fall in the pig pen, they will fuck and eat you. Yeah. And they had to do. Yeah. Often that have. That's a very common way for farmers to die. They fall in the pig pen in the final scraps a close or God. And just a puddle blood. Neither. The fuck is left there. Yeah. So. Now thankfully, they're coming out with this kind of synthetic food. You're the synthetic people know that mimics pork or chicken mimicking its actual chicken cells pork sales. Yes. And that's going to be a great day. Yeah. They're brings me the, the beyond burger that people keep Google disk because I want to make sure this is true. Someone sent me this, I didn't have the time to check beyond meat. Tests positive for glide for sake. Let's glyphosate glider Sade is round up. Masan is very fucking dangerous that trying to pretend it's not. But meanwhile, the dishing out fucking lawsuits. Yeah. One couple got was it two billion dollars. I got a two billion dollar ruling against Monsanto and other guy got five million to two billion because they got cancer being pesticides. I'm like, yeah. The I'll drink shift ability. They got a good lawyers. They're probably going to lose. I mean it seems like a lot of money. Of course. But I was reading that, that, you know, it's a it's a meat based in a non meat-based burger, that's supposed to taste pretty similar to meet. I haven't had one. But what I'm saying is now they figured out how to take your sales, and replicate, it actually is meet knowing Brian Eno place, has no animals being killed, which is the ideal sh- wonder for the dangerous for you. But this glide for safe thing, I need to find out, this is correct. That's the only reason why I brought it up. I just remembered, I think it's important for people to have this is one of the best things about that whole kind of paleo wholefoods situation. No. What if you're going to act in a certain way towards your food know what you're doing and be happy to draw that line about okay? What are you comfortable, with and defend your decision? Yeah. Yeah. What, what are you willing to kill, you know, my friend? Chris Pratt hell, yes. He's got farm zone thing that he does. And he, he takes lamb. And you know he he puts the rod on their head and puts them. Asleep. They have no idea what's going to happen, and then they just die instantly. And he made this really detailed post on Instagram about it and people got super upset with them. You know, that, that he talked about this as a peaceful thing that he has these animals that he loves and cares for and you can see pictures of him like touching them and holding them. And then later they're packaged up as meat and, like, but, but you've you saw just a steak you would never problem. Like, if someone said, look, I cook the steak, you'd get a lot of people like ooh that looks good. But if it's like I killed this animal, and now, I'm going to cook, it people, you're a monster. Everyone has to other than getting hit by Carson people have to put down their dogs and their cats. Yeah. So maybe this is not and that lamb is being bred for that purpose. And it's being done painlessly. That's important thing. And I'm sure that lamb had a good life, and it wasn't a factory crowded shoulder to shoulder existence. Distorts your situation. Yeah, I'm sure but it's a very quick life. You know, lamb as a baby here. Lambs a baby. Nature's about us eating babies. Yeah. I've, I haven't had mutton haven't had like a sheep sheep, the, you know, that's such a British thing, and it's always like in these old story books you read. But like now, I don't think sheep get become adult unless their for their for their hair. Well, I, I've had wild cheap my friend, Remmy Remmy warn. He gave me some, some. Wild sheep back strap? It was very good. Some wild sheep that he killed. But while I'm here I'm big on guy hag fish fish. Does that weird fucking slimy thing? Yeah. At the Bundy ocean. How do they cooked that? I it's crane barbecue place. You're there has it? I like up super legit Korean barbecue. Yeah. They're cooking hack fish while I'm cooking it. I guess technically what is it is, like, I, I haven't tried it yet. I can't wait. What's the reports not that good? I'm not surprised to like sign me up. I like since I have a wall, g background. I'm like, no. But I want eat it. Two of every animal have you had jellyfish yet. I have. It's tasteless. It's weird plastic. It's the salt and chest. I ate at a restaurant that's in the win. Yeah. It's in the win. And it's the only five star Chinese restaurant in the country or in North America. It was insanely good. Like you, you realize, like, wow, that's true. Like you don't see a whole lot of gourmet right like super high end. Chinese restaurants. What did you have anything weird there? Yeah. I had that I had jellyfish cucumber had. No. I didn't have that I had abalone. That was really. I was not that a lot of times it's like credit cards Avalon. It wasn't a I've had abalone before and I liked it. I like it. I don't I don't love it. It's expensive to what are you Jimmy? So from a couple articles, I just found the, the issue seems to be in pea protein, which is what is used these murders? And what I found about what you were saying is the impossible burger actually tested eleven times, higher, when tested for glyphosate than the it'd be on meat burger. Which is there's two different versions. I eat pea protein protein ships everyday. Is that a problem? So there's an article that you're getting some glide facility. What does that mean? Bloomberg on goods as p protein could have its own concerns, detox project. The research organization looking into pesticides of life Assayed has been looking into it forever year. It says that there's there is an issue. There's we can hardly say clean protein anywhere, the results like those other products tested for the popular pesticides aren't pretty. It's a very, we can hardly find a clean pea protein source anywhere, Jesus Christ's all got glyphosate. There's that I still don't know, glyphosate does glide for say this is the idea. Okay. And please Google this, because the argument was glide for say is great because it just kills the weeds and bacteria, and it doesn't kill people actually drink it with a problem. They're saying is no, no, no. You have bacteria in your body. So if you're taking in glide to say you're killing the bacteria, inner body might not kill you. But it's not good for you and fuck up your system. Okay. This is the argument, I guess that they use to present in court. They must've used this to, to get the jury to wore them two billion dollars in damage cancer. That's not Monsanto parent company. Bayer fee faces thousands of roundup cancer cases after two billion dollar verdict thirteen thousand cases right now. Yeah, listen, man. This thing I don't know. See there's this is what the problem first of all. I'm a moron. I don't know anything about any of the science behind this. When I read this, I see two different cancer just like so many other things I see people saying there's no evidence. This is just they're all hysteria, but is that the people that work for Bayer? Is that like their PR firm, that's putting this out there to try to like alleviate people's concerns, and stop some lawsuits in their tracks? They tried to influence public opinion on this, or is there real science? It shows this stuff is very bad for you. But there's definitely a bunch of people online that are telling you. That it's horrible for you here exposure, glyphosate based, herbicides, a risk for non Hodgkin's lymphoma. A meta analysis and supporting evidence I don't want to switch off my pea protein, thank good, bro. We'll see some hemp protein, but that should get tested to them. What am I saying? Just start eating steak. I can't look. It's hard to eat that much. It's prom, bro. Does show. Ever happened. Do you know David Franken down? Is that his name? Hold on. I'll send its you Jamie is a fucking hilarious guy, who is this big steroid, it up bodybuilder, dude. That's also very, very funny. Okay. And he's only does the bro science videos. He's very he's for a line. It's always talking like this. Let me let me find his, she to get meals swell. I sent it to these guys to the my. I have a fight companion Twitter feed that's going. I'm not Twitter feed. Text message group text here. It is Robert Frank. Although say. The more xix yet, it's here on this hang on a second. Do you know what it is Jamie? Robert Frank six one five. Private, it is. Oh, no. Oh, so he's going to sign up followers, but I don't follow him. Oh, one of them deals because he says a lot of crazy shit. All right. So. How long does it take Lincoln's previous? Okay. Hold on. Sergeant I'm gonna text it to you right now. How long does it usually take for those people? They have to be either one of those dorks sit in front of the computer or someone's doing it for. Yeah. Yeah. He must have allowed me in our Adamson to you right now. Bam. Okay. It went through do your through. Anyway. It's hilarious. Let's take it out and post. It's laris. This is no taken anything. No need to no need to try to make it smoother. It's hard to put the calories down, though is my point. No, it's not. It's opening mouth to swallow what are your baby? Your grandfather would have died for a steak like this. Jesus christ. Listen to yourself. You saying all the shit that you would get mad at people if they're saying about any other subject. It's hard. It's hard to eat all that food. It's hard. It's hard to get by in this world. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to get up every morning. It's hard. I work hard. I work hard how fucking hard. Is it deeds steak? Look at me, bro. Just eat it cook, it, eat it put some salt on D lettuce, maybe like some steak sauce. Do whatever you gotta do to get that stake, down your stomach, sir. Get some cross fade grass-fed grass-fed grass raised. It's got a darker, Richard taste it. Seems like a lot of work grass-fed. No just cooking steaks all the time. Aren't you learn how to do? It's easy. Is it self a nice grill? All right. I'm in Brooklyn Brooklyn, you gotta yard no no. Oh, hanging Brooklyn. Okay. Got a cast iron Skillet. I can get one. That's all you need. It's not gonna stink of my house. Yeah. It'll say up your house. Okay. How's steak house? Okay. Smell good people will be like Michael's live in good. He's got the steak life. That'd be knocking on doors up put your box Broza grass-fed. Then we just cut it for me. Let me see what you got to got medium rare. Oh, yeah. Kosher salt crush close. It's thicker. So that's why use I like the pyramid salt. What's that? It's shaped like a pyramid. The crystals. Yeah. They do too soon way. No here. If you're going to cook a steak like a man correctly, you need, kosher salt. Okay. How many how much grams of protein or in stake, a lot, so you need to know down your fucking mouth? I follow my Macara's every oh, do you, are you really getting serious about that? I've always been because I have an eating disorder. So this is a way to direction. Okay. Yeah. You'd have to look. I mean it's it's certainly more for wild game, which is mostly what I eat than it is for store bought me, but store bought meat, I would I would guarantee you that there's more nutrients in grass fed meat. I don't know if there's more protein doesn't seem to make sense. But if you look at, like it could be more protein, because they might be less fat or whatever. But more fat. Yeah. That's true too. Of course, it would be more protein. If it was leaner. Yeah. For the same amount Alice's. Yeah. But there's also a bunch of other shit m toward, and essential fatty acids that exist in grass fed meat. It's all it's all good stuff. Okay. Just get some steak and stop with the pea protein, bro. Okay. Sorry, I'm not eating pizza might be fucking you up. Man. I wonder I wonder how many people are getting what are the dangers of consuming? Other than non Hodgkin's lymphoma. Maybe this is what you're seeing over and over, and people that are not kill my gains. There was. Pretty protein is helping your gains. There's something about knowing that you're getting all your protein from peace. All of it. Some events makes you sixty grams a day. What are you doing? Endocrine disruptor. Oh. That's just no joke. That's what glasses. Oh, fuck liver disease, birth, defects, reproductive problems in animals, Christ. What does this from just typed in dangers of life? I don't want to give them the US. I don't wanna get birth defect. Hey, I don't know what that is pull up, whatever. US. RT TKO's find it might be horsh it. We should otherwise dot org. Oh, right. To know. Right. To know that doesn't that sound anything like what is it? What is the based on that? This does not legitimate look at that. Top news on the right trial for Monsanto hometown. It's all Monsanto. Everything's monsanto. This is just news. Stories from today, they're all over the news. Right. But you gotta be this, this is not real story, though. Look at all the top news is all mullets, contact that you should have some dude. GMO's. Are what is it, litigation? Other litigating. This is from the lawyers could be yes. From the lawyers wishing for truth and transparent. This is the lawyers, the food system. This is looks and if there are two billion dollar rulings. You can bet your sweet ass shit, people that are swarming on this subject would be a better source of information. I don't know. Man. Good question. What do we got here? Alex, let's call Alex salads, you'll know he I don't know if he's up on food stuff. He knew about the plastic wrap that gives you racist. You're kind of estrogen. Okay. Oh, american. Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good two thousand nine weed, whacking urbicide deadly to human cells used in gardens, farms and parks around the world. The weed killer roundup contains an ingredient that can suffocate human cells in the laboratory researchers say, yeah. So we'll kill my gains suffocating, myself fuck that, whatever that is whatever, whatever has that on it fuck that stuff. Okay. I'm going to go to more way, carnivore die. That's your move. Okay. And I'd like Jordan Peterson joys on carnivore. Yes. Okay. Over a year. It's helped him tremendously. How so, well, first of all, intellectually, he says it's really alleviated a lot of his auto immune issues that he thinks we're slowing him down and wearing him out and making him tired, and he has more energy. Okay. Thanks. He says he's at his peak intellectually, and he credits that a lot of that to this diet. He's lost fifty pounds, all eat meat when I'm saying all these is meat. I mean, that's it drinks. I water, there's none. Okay. Doesn't have any of that. He drinks water and eats meat and for the job. What is heard this are that locate, you know what else I heard I heard that the food pyramid was all grain at the bottom, and that's not the case anymore. Right. There's a lot of shit and I'm not saying that this is for everybody because it's not for everybody. It's not even good for everybody. There's a lot of people with the eight meet every day, all day, probably terrible for them. But for some people in it seems that particularly people with autoimmune disorders. They achieve some at least anecdotally, some really positive results. Jordan Peterson has gone as far as to take. I think he. Took three blood tests when he had a one year end for insurance purposes, in which things showed because, you know, obviously, you're going to ensure a guy who's fifty five years old, just eat steak all-time like my God. This guy's gonna die. Right. No everything's fine. Everything's healthy no coronary artery disease. No plaque, no cholesterol levels are all fine. Everything's fun. This sounds like it would be exorbitant though to financially. Yeah. Maybe not the cheapest way to eat in the world. I mean you can get Costco stakes you get some supermarkets have cheaper cuts on really depends on what, you know, you could also eat just ground beef, that's not as bad you don't eat as much, and that's one of the reasons why when you're on with the con- elimination diet, one of one of the cool, you eliminate basically everything that might be fucking with you. Except the one thing that you can write. Right. Soom easily. And this is one of the things they're calling the carnivore died the elimination, and an elimination diet, when you do you wind up eating less. Food, which is one of the reasons why these people just eat steak and wind up losing weight. They don't they don't take any car that says, basically, also kind of Atkins, if they're not taking carbs sword of. But there's a thing called gluco Genesis and, like, not necessarily sort of Atkins, but sort of Kito, but it's more Atkins than Kito, and that Atkins diet works you stick to it. It does work when you his way when you're starts to smell. It's great. That's when you know, the party started. Yeah, you're in Kito Genesis great. Or. And when you're in ketosis man, you really do have energy throughout the day. Because your body's not craving carbohydrates. You don't have this up and down blood sugar crash. The thing about the carnivore diet is not even Kita Janik really. I mean you're in ketosis sometimes, but you're not eating that much fat. He just eating a lot of meat and a lot of it with fat, some of it without fat. Kentucky toast this was when you have no carbs. It's not function. No. Here's why. Okay. Because when your body eats, a lot of steak and you don't have any carbohydrates, you, your body does something called gluco Genesis, we'll convert stake into glucose. So it actually convert protein into glucose, and it actually knock you out of Kito says, if you take in too much protein and not enough fat go. Ketosis is I think somewhere in the eighty percent range if you, you would should be consuming, like eighty percent of your calories from fats he'd be kind of a maze and actually can fuck with some people's gains. They don't think they're getting enough protein, because they're getting a lot of fat in a smaller amount of protein like less grams of protein might not be ideal in terms of like physical performance for athletes. They think but when you when you do that, and you just eat steak, your body's. All right. This asshole doesn't want to eat apples. You know, we have to figure out how to get our, our carbs. Yeah. We have to figure out how to get our sugar. So we're just going to get it through steak. Okay. It's a weird thing. It's like people some people are unaware, that, but your body, literally produces it turns protein into like a glucose substitute glucose, actual school. Go genesis. Yeah, you can do it. I've done it for several days. I've never done it for long. Periods of time. But I was I wanted to try it, when they're there were doing national carnivore month while he's knuckleheads, this people are so into it. Carnivore died is a lot like the vegan diet is they can't shut the fuck up about being a carnivore live, Eddie, Michael Goldstein, who's the first person who's about bitcoin. Is that bitcoin, bitcoin bitcoin? Same thing with carnivore carnivore carnival. All right. So I tried it for a couple of weeks. I think I went from like close to two weeks and after while Jesus cross twenty rude foods. I am not being I'm not joking. I would think you'll be problems getting stuck in your teeth all the time. No, you just brush your teeth. Disgusting. What's wrong with you? You don't have to pick at home. Excuse me. I have every flavor of Marvis on my shelf. Right. When he's Marvis. Oh, interesting. Now who doesn't know about tooth care? What's Marvis is the like Italian toothpaste brand. It looks really cool. I love the flavors and support. The point is brushing, your teeth not going to get it not stuck in between your teeth. It's not gonna help philosophy. Yeah. You're going to get the flushing all the time. Or just bite off bigger chunks like a man to swallow it. How can I tell I tell you a story about this, this just happened to me? Yes. And this is when I realized that most people there's no mine there, I am at a buffet. I'm eating steak. I was eating steak congratulations. I it's gets stuck in my throat. I'm like, all right. It's just too big a piece, I'll just wash it down. It's not going anywhere. And I realize I'm choking, and it was a very scary situation in the sense that mentally I knew there is a percent chance that I'm going to try to throw up. Hold on. Hold on. Let me tell the story Joe Rogan some sitting there I'm like holy shit. I'm choking. And I'm like, all right. I was called. But I'm like, it's your life is currently in danger. And there's a three people at the next table to, to, to women their fifties sixties, I go up to them. And I'm like, I know what to do because I was at school at I go them, and I go choking. And I did the hand motion, and I make eye contact with each of them. No, no affect on their face. And I'm like at the very least you have a crazy person coming up to your table doing a neck Bush were you in New York? Yeah. Does the problem? I people descend Steitz did this to myself, and it's shot out. And then I go. And then I go to yourself, showing how did this, the Heimlich I, I don't know if it was the cough or whatever it popped out, and all the liquid to after it, and I go to them, I go, I was just choking. And they're like, oh, you should shoot your food better. I'm like someone was just said that you ladies should get that lady's name. She doesn't happen because there's not a human being there. There's no mind and I'm like holy shit. If I saw this happen, and I didn't help I would be like, oh my God, you. Oh my holy shit. Are you? Okay. It was like oh, shoot your food. You're not a soul hose this hair fifties. So many probably just true. Your Batman, not bad enough relationships. And it was scary. The reaction was scarier than the choking. Yeah. I would imagine. Well, I think that's a really common thing with big cities, that, that sort of, there's a diffusion of responsibility with so many people, there are so many you don't feel responsible for this guy with his hands on his neck saying, I'm coughing, look somebody else. Go to somebody handle this. I gotta go to work. I would be fine if they had shrugged and been like. Yeah. Whatever in a sense, but there was no reaction. It's probably so jaded. So whoever you are lady. I hope you fuck you. I, I hope you go back in time, and you have a better daddy and a better, mommy and better friend. Yeah. And you grow up to be a nice person. And I and yeah, inter fifties. Maybe she could be a yoga teacher life in her mind. Save someone's life today. I'm going to heaven. Yeah, maybe she thought you were nuts, and you just trolling her. But if I was nuts you would think they'd pull back and be like holy shit. Does a crazy person or a table? Maybe it's because of your troll. Leguay lesson. Universes sent your way you're the boy who cried wolf. No. No. The lesson is you're invincible and nothing bad will ever happen for because you're survived. I survived. Oh, do you know how to do that, to someone else though, someone was choking? Do you know to give a Heimlich? I think I do we all think we do. Right. That's the thing. But it's like you have to get it right here, like right where the ribcage at the start and you push up. I think people get the ribs, broken all the time Dave supposed to you're supposed to do as hard as you can or you don't want that. But the alternative. Matt Hughes doing that to you. It's hard as you can that would be very painful for contract. Cacak. Just like an old chicken. Yeah. No p protein there and you get in trouble for helping and hurting, of course you can't hundred percent. Of course, you can get in trouble for shooting a burglar, especially if you're a strong person like if you like that Robert Frank guy that he approved yet. No. I'll check on his Twitter account. I couldn't tell what the video was. He might have it on Twitter. Yeah. Maybe it's a. Yeah. I bet he does. Right. Well, isn't he like he's I don't know what the topic was a couple of videos up, but it could have been this is what it looks like. Oh, they'll show too. For some reason, now, Instagram wants to send me Twitter wants to send me to the Instagram from the web, and not from that happens on your an apple should have been in a way mess. Instead of an Android. Why does it do that? But does Android worked better for that for, for the purposes for the purpose of joke? Yet doesn't doesn't it? The Google does the Google, I have Android to have an Android phone as well. But don't doesn't Gulick collect way more data than apple? Does. I think they. Yeah. It's my understanding. There's this gathering data and selling it. Whereas Apple's kind of trying to avoid that support apple did a great great thing where they had that setup where they can't even break into their phone, if they wanted to in defying law enforcement, that was really wonderful, not just that, but your information right terms relocation information, and where you're going and what you're doing Google every time you're getting online. They're just trying to like where are you? What do you want? What do you need? There's a great documentary called the creepy line. And they talk about, like, let's suppose face on Facebook, and I want to influence elections. Right. What if, if I have an ad that says, get on vote, it's gonna crash people vote. What if I've just ran that ad on Donald Trump fans people who like Donald Trump don't run on Hillary fans. That would sway the election and no one would know. So what they do with this information. Action is very quiet and there's not that much transparency, and it can really lead, especially with the shoe with foreign countries how with China how, they're like, you know, being perfectly happy to kind of censor stuff. This is these are things that need to be asked. Do you know I was talking to a wounds an executive her position was that if they didn't do it? Google is going to copy it anyway. So might as well just let Google. Sensor and this way, Google won't invent their own Google. Sure. Just copy all the code deal the code Google. And that's a fair response. These are things that people, I think, should think more about. Yeah. Well, especially with something like China, where the government and the industry are all tied in right? This is why I was really weirded out by this wall way thing today, when it came to Google and Google because you want to say, well, if Google's doing this clearly, there must be a real reason for it. But then, you know about the Google memo and James damore wha-wha-what Elia. Because when you've done that I gotta go, okay, the guy just provided scientific information didn't say anything, sexist. You're just talking about the facts of studies, right? And you, you fire them for what you call like what was it? Reinforcing, sexist stereotypes, and it wasn't the case at all. That's not what he did. But so many people were complaining about his report on the data that. They were asking about. We'll also saying that he doesn't know math and statistics when is he have an MIT degree? Yeah. A yeah. So it's what happens is, when you have this fundamentalist faith you start with the conclusion, and you reason you're ready backward. And if you're contradicting my conclusion, you're not only wrong, you're a liar and a center and have to be driven from the face of the earth. That's why I would were narrowly defer to them. I'm like, wow, this must be pretty serious of Google is looking to take G mail off of the new phones, and not update the operating system. But then I go, well, no, that's not right. What's going on at all? Yeah. I don't know what's going on. We might never know that is a problem when you do one thing like that. Like there's giant consequences for what they probably thought was a PR disaster probably have to get rid of this, James, damore guy. Let's just do it. We'll justify. And I think the culture of the company probably supported it's probably very left. Mantis. It didn't support it. It's a man that it was my understanding the company. Yeah. Even though logically and the rest of that was really interesting to see outside of the bubble where the rest of the world, the people. Actually read his memo and looked at it. We're like, okay, what is wrong with what he's saying? He's not saying anything bad about women. Right. He's in. In fact, you had a page and a half talking about strategies to get women. More interested in tech. He was just relying the information as a stands in terms of the studies that have been done that show. What women tend to gravitate towards what men tend to gravitate towards these aren't sexist? Studies studies where they're just trying to figure out. Why do more women go into healthcare? Why do is it opportunity? Is it desire, like is it is it just natural cultural is cultural sure there's a lot of things and so data is not sexist. This guy was just talking about data. And then when you looked at his own ideas, those rent, sexists, either he was just talking about strategies that you get women's right? Disagree with you. They will say data's sexist because it has conclusions that contradict what they air, quotes know to be true. So therefore, if the data contradict. This the data is sexist. That's so crazy. That that's the left. The left used to be science driven logical ones. They're left has this is one of the big myths, and I talked about this in the book they have from Woodrow Wilson on have this evangelical fundamentals face a segment of a left. There's many people on the left who are very science driven who were like look, these are the facts is working out, but there's a big segment of them, which are very prevalent, where they're basically like jihadis and you have this on the right as well where it's just like these are my conclusions, and we're going to force everyone to fit said conclusions. So you think that even like when you go back to San fucking? There was the terrorist organization that Obama's professor was involved, the weatherman the weatherman. Yeah. Like that you'd go back to that similar almost like an educated version of antiga. I'm going back to withdraw Wilson. Yeah. But I mean if you went back, yet, it's real similar to what we're absolutely. Yeah. And they that there's a book called days of rage, and it talks about how in the early seventies, there were bombs going off every week in America, and they weren't trying to kill people. It was political, they call them the bomb threat and be like, look, we're going to set up a bomb, but the point is they there are other sabinas Lebanon Liberation Army with ahead, Patty Hearst a few of them, the weather underground, they really this was their thing, and they blew up a townhouse in New York City killed a bunch of people, and now they're walking around in their fine. It's a fast and it's all been swept under the rug like people always think that no matter what's happening. Now is like. Regards to like these Neo Nazi types in the outright. Oh, this is the worst time ever. It's like the clan used to be like a major part of both political parties. Like, what are you talking about? Things used to be re which are Wilson is playing birth of nation at the White House. Things were really, really dark before. And but people don't have the historical context. No, it's easy to not know what happened before, but just to think about what's going on. Now where you want things to go. Yeah. So therefore, it's really really bad indifferent. Must be the worst, right? Yeah. There's a better. There's a better way to live for sure. But I think we want one of the real problems when you start telling people what they can and can't do no matter what it is. No matter what it is. And you tell people what they can, and can't do you sort of reinforce, I think one of the things that's going on now in terms of like these abortion rulings. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Which it's very sketchy, very scary. And the Alabama one which is. Outlaws abortion. Right. The are making it, where your punishment for abortion, is far greater punishment than the punishment for raping someone and causing them to get an abortion. So they don't punish the women. I think the punish the doctor, the law, punishes, the doctor was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Doctor gets ninety nine years or something like that. That's right. It's the doctor who's being charged not the woman that's the question is in Georgia, and Alabama neighboring baby. Right. But the question is, why do you want this? If you regard this mother, as a potential murderer do you really want her raising that kid? Right. To go ahead. Nine years jail. The other thing is that I am very torn on this issue abortion on Twitter. It's such a cesspool of people who don't understand each other one group saying, oh, it's all about. You want to control women's body, and the other being like oh you wanna murder babies. No, no. They don't want him to babies and they don't care about the woman. They care about what they perceive to be the infant. So I try to talk to both and it's, it's just knows. Yeah. These are rigid ideologies and they're not persuasive. If you tell someone who is pro choice, who would otherwise be amenable to your point of view, will you just wanna murder kids. It's like, well, I don't so. There's nothing to talk anymore. Did you see that state Representative that was walking around in front of a abortion clinic, and was trying to get the names of these kids that were there that yeah, yeah? He's still on Twitter. No consequences. That's crazy. He was trying to docks kids. He was asking for. He was gonna give offering money, bribing. Yeah. One hundred dollars one hundred dollars to get the names of who are these people are it's, it's they gets to this one boy, and he puts his boy's face onto it, and he's like just some meek shy Christian is the big guy. He's big and aggressive and he's getting in peoples face with the camera, right? And then he's putting them online. And he's getting a lot of attention and fame for it. And it's crazy. And meanwhile, my buddy Mike, he has a parody account of ASC. He gets kicked off. That's crazy. Yeah. And it says parody. Yeah. Why can't you do? I mean I I don't think what he did was even rough it wasn't. It wasn't anything. I don't really awful. I read some of the tweets just kind of funny their parody. Yeah. What about sign alive? I actually exactly would we're Alec Baldwin does to the president every fucking day on Saturday night. Live every week he's doing a fucking Trump impression. Right. Well he should. That's exactly. So it's, it's a complete double standard. It's it's and the other thing, I'll defend Jack in this regard. What we're talking about earlier. I'm sure the pressure he gets Turnley. He's off the charts off ten. He even said this explicitly goes. They were all my whole company was yelling at me to kick off, Alex for a long time. He refused to do it for a while. It's, it's weird that they don't see the consequences. They don't understand that this is going to go to a bad place. But this is they do see the positive consequences where they're preaching to their own tribe, and basically the people who aren't like us get to go out in the in the ghetto in the wilderness. Well, I think human beings are way better at expressing themselves today than the ever have been in the past, and I think one of the reasons why is the free expression that we so enjoy, and that we have enjoyed you know, like if you if you look at the history of what you could the message you could get out just forty or fifty years ago, as opposed to what you can get out today. And then you looked at how culture has radically evolved over the last forty years versus where if if everything was stagnant. Look it wasn't nineteen fifty. We would we would think if you watch like nineteen fifties films or read books about the nineteen fifties. The behavior of the people got away with, was, it was way, different. Oh, yes, it is today, of course, things are getting better. But one of the reasons why these things are getting better is because people can see everything. He can talk through all the details. Yes. Have you think you could just cut off the ugly stuff cut off the Nazi stuff and cut off this stuff, and you're going to keep people from getting recruited, so you're going to kill this, and you're gonna deep platform this? You're also gonna you're gonna enforce assholes to say, like there's a reason why they're silencing us. There's a reason why instead of having people going. Hey, no. You guys are shitheads. And this is a stupid idea, and you guys are ignorant fools, and your perception of things, so off, and we're gonna explain you, while it's off, and we're going to all work this out together. And when they say, there's a secret elite, who's running this country and wants to control your life, they made Jews, don't they shit. Jake is up. They know shut it down this. But this is there proof they can point to Twitter Facebook, and they could also say, hey. They're picking off the same exact people and every platform, it's not a coincidence. Whereas David Duke is still on Twitter, this ruined. Yeah, of course, that's worse. Is it but it's telling no it's not hilarious like high. No. But. The got rid of Farrakhan didn't get rid of David Duke. Right. Right. Because David, Duke serves a purpose what purpose because he's a good foil for the left because when David Duke endorses, a Republican look. Oh, the Republicans are racist, when David Duke, endorses, Ilhan Omar or Keith Ellison. Crickets, Huby a good bad guy on payroll. Like, if I was the Democratic Party to look Dave, the jig is up, okay? Everybody knows you're never going to be president right now. We're going to really run for office anywhere legitimate bun. She's not that good. How about this, David? We'll give you four hundred thousand dollars a year. All. Yeah. To do so every now and then I'm gonna call you up. But I'm say Dave, you know, be interesting. It'd be interesting, if David Duke endorsed, this Astle, and then David Duke just starts talking about this person being a fine American in the white, nationalist, and all these different. She's make up a bunch of quotes and have David Duke put it up there, a lot of people when then have a shake that off a lot of people think he's control like not him, specifically control opposition control that physician. Oh, that's my favorite, right? When someone's not band. They must be controlled opposition that is one of my favorite. I love that dork theory. It is a control position is someone who you don't like who hasn't been banned yet. Yeah. Controlled opposition. He's a useful idiot. Yeah. Control opposition is. It's like when people get into these, I've been accused of being a CIA plant you probably are probably one of these as for anarchy, you know, the term cognisant like. Yep. Yeah, that's a great term. And that's like that's perfect for this. It's like, oh, usually idiot all control opposition. I'm in the no I'm one of the condescending. Sneaked us by may. I understand. But meanwhile, sometimes they're right. Which is why it's really fucked up. It's like sometimes there is controlled opposition. Sometimes there is. Sometimes it's fake websites that talk because somebody wants probably somebody wants to win a lawsuit. You know, look at this, I'm dear to this. Casey, you're working on come and look at this website, I found, but that's killing babies. That's why it's so important for there to be venues for those peop-. It's someone is crazy or brilliant off. It looks the same way. But how does a person know whether or not that websites? Right. Or well, once we got to scientific American. We built we all like, okay this is legit is legit claim they're basically talking about cells. They were talking about human cells. I don't know any better throwing human cells. But here's here's a problem with that was, what was going to say is. At what scale because by the way, they've shown that certain elements plants in laboratory environment will destroy cells. He's even like fight on each Reince, and there was some something one of the head guys for the carnivore diet. Sean Baker posted on his Twitter, while back showing that you can make a lot of weird arguments based on sells like how things respond to sell doesn't necessarily mean once it gets through. Yeah. The only way in my view, and I'm not an expert on this is discourse and having a platform where people can argue at each other, and you could stand by watching NC things. Otherwise, if you're silencing it's, it's, it's very as we talked before. And I think any right minded person who agrees a very, very slippery slope. I agree. Did you see the Ben Shapiro meltdown on the BBC? I did. Yeah, that's a good example. Let's example. I don't look. He didn't handle it. Well, he knows he didn't handle it, well, and I'd like them. But, you know, like him a lot of things really nice guy. I like talking to him. I don't agree with him on many things, but I really like him. He's a really good guy. I don't think he's a very smart guy. And I think he's smart enough to admit that he fucked did he he he went on Twitter. And as I here's thing I did a mean making fun of him. It's on my insta- and people white night for him. And I'm like he owned he played it wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And he said, yeah. I got got that's the his credit. Yeah. And it highlights to me more so than anything the problem with two things. One doing remote show. Sure. Where you're from your in Los Angeles, there in the UK. Sure where he was talking to him like he wasn't there. The British guy was because he wasn't. Really? Right. And then the other part is that short time format he you don't have enough time you have time to have a conversation just talk that then knows this, then is a pro. What the BBC is too, but he's also a pro at doing those things. Yeah. Just shout talking points at each other, and talk, and Ben talk super fast because when he talks fast, it's really hard to keep up with them. And he sounds smarter than you like he. He's very smart and articulate any talks fast is like, woo, hard to handle rose to prominence when he was on Piers Morgan. Yes, talking about guns. If you thought that BBC interview was rude peers. At one point just goes, your real stupid, man, aren't you like that's your line and Benton storm off? He's just like no. I just think when a government becomes Servatius that it's very important for the citizens have the, you know, he handled the impression we go to the same show. He handled it amazingly. So for him as he admitted for him to lose his shit, and also to be like, I'm popular, and I've never heard of you. Yeah. That's just because you've never heard of someone. And I'm sure he would admit this is of no relevance to their, the validity of what they're doing. Yeah. That's why I was shocked when I went to Joe see where last night, and it was sold out. I don't know. I literally didn't know she was until we could go a lot of people know her. I'm just saying more so than Ben Shapiro. Most famous Joe here. The fuck effing? And she's sixteen if like Ben Shapiro did a speech at the Microsoft center. I don't know how many tickets he sells if he does speeches. But it's hard sell seven thousand people a hard. So you don't think Ben Shapiro could still seven thousand tickets. That's a lot. Yeah. But that's basically you're getting a two hour speech and one hour. So that's already half the double the value. No. But it's getting people out of their house to pay money to come here. People talk like most of these, like when these guys are doing these talks, unless it's Jordan Jordan kind of do a football stadium. Yeah. But a lot of these guys are doing like two thousand seaters. Okay. This is seven thousand this is a big jump, okay? To seventy bull. I bet you he could fill it. Maybe maybe it's possible. I don't know. I don't know if he's doing live ones like that. There's a lot of people doing live shows now. It's very interesting because they're doing little tiny to ferry old-timey. Yeah. But it's also it's cool to see people that are interested in intellectual like Sam Harris, some fantastic. And I like some what? Some of SAM's live ones too, because he's funny in them, which she's he gets a chance to actually work to the crowd. Yeah. You know, I was talking to him about it much. You have good timing comic. Like some of the stuff you say actually makes me laugh when he does live ones as opposed to. He's very like rational and samba when he's doing straight, you know, just, just conversation ones, you know, this is a performance with me, like, if you're in front of that audience, and the laugh is out of proportion because there's so many of them have that one liner, it makes you want to be more on. And it's like it's this means tail and it's really, really exciting. It's also like a nod to the crowd that you know that they're there and you're trying to entertain them the appreciate them. Like you say something fun like y- you're doing it. They know you're doing it because of their, and it's funny, you know, and let's improv, it's much more intimate when you've got that one liner that you knew as part of his speech. It's great. So they're doing their their way where it's just conversations. And it's interesting because they're getting these giant crowds. And you know. They're also like do produced wants to lick radio lab, does it produce live one, and it's really interesting. They'll bring someone out and they'll play sound clips and I don't know if they have a video element of it on see, I think they do. They have like visuals, too. But they're doing it all in these big ass theaters, and people love it, and they come out to see it. So for someone who listens to radio lab every week, and they get a chance to go and see it live. It's like, wow, I can't believe it's here. The part of my life. And this is the danger of them right there. Twitter Facebook stuff. People are desperate and excited to hear new ideas, stop provoking people. Even if you just degree right to my favorite people like a lot of times if you hear them talk, even if you don't care what they're saying or disagree with them, the energy, and it's like this is fascinating. It's saw provoking for me. It's just it's nothing's better. I think there's something really cool about people coming out to see these really interesting discussions to Jordan had a debate with this lavish g check. Yeah. Thank you sayings name pronounced it. Right. Maybe you better you than me about Marx's. Yeah. And sold out. Yeah. And then they had pay per view people are buying watching. This is like the dub w of our time. It's like how are these two people in a room together? I wanna see this, and they actually want to agreeing on quite a few things, and just it was really an interesting discussion. But it's also interesting that, that, that Marxism is such a attractive subject that they're willing. To host this giant event and pay to see people debate this topic that's like this. This idea that you could fill up a whole arena for an intellectual discourse. Yeah. Or three hundred places and then you could also sell pay-per-view tickets for like what the fuck are you talking about who the hell's gonna pay to hear that at school? Get outta here with that shit. It's not I wish school was, like that wish. Right. There's no better way to get kids to hate learning than school. Every kid is so excited about the world. You know, go on to go to the museum, not every kid, a lot read books, then you go to school in that all goes away your factory worker. So this anything that reinvigorate your show, does the do reinvigorates your love of learning, and so much interesting. Crazy shit up there. I who doesn't love that. Creative the jocks back in the day. Didn't have that space and now thanks to you and people like you. It's like you know what? I don't like reading books readings enough for me. I could sit here and listen for three hours and I'm going to be a smarter person it was three are going, learn stuff who doesn't love history. Even if you're the biggest head, it's like the shit's interests or like these crazy animals either biggest meat had to be like, oh shit. That's cold you hear about this, you know, raff weevil, which has a hinge in its neck, but only the males in it's medic esker. Yeah. Yeah, it is a real thing. And I was gonna say this like it's fuel for your curiosity. Yeah. And for your creativity, it's gonna give you ideas. It's gonna like there's so much fuel for creativity right now like more so than any other time. There's so much information. Interesting shit. You could learn and do it easily. Like you could just find like I need to learn about economics, and he's finding economics podcast and start playing it. And if the person's good, you know, if they're interesting to talk to. And they can do it in a fun way. Like you're listening to Peter Schiff. God. Yeah. He's he knows his shit. Like I've had him on a few times. And the way he describes thing. It's like he's entertaining as well as factual as what was just a compelling. Charismatic person while he's talking about these things he's getting fired up. And you're like, okay, so that's how it works. Yeah. It's so much better than absorbing it, and a dry stale manner. And if and then you go from that, like, oh, let me oh, you he mentioned this thing. Let me learn about this. Oh, there's a YouTube video about this, and you go down this rabbit hole. And it's just like hours of entertainment, and you're a and you can have better conversation with people. Hey, I learned about this, this, and that I feel so far behind kids these days ago. I mean an eighteen year old today fill like a thirty year old when I was a kid in what way the smarter they've more info you have more data. They know what torsion and what's not when we were in our twenties. We didn't know what the fuck was real. What was fake? There was no YouTube. Right. There's no Google. There was books and you didn't read them alive. Yeah. You might do Joe. Yeah. I'm older than you. You had books. About like to find out whether or not something's true, right? Like we do today. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Like when I was in my twenties like I wasn't like researching subjects. I've read a few books here and there. But it wasn't researching things on every single aspect of the world to weigh the, the access to this information, just so radically different that you just have a thing in your pocket that answers your questions. What else is fast setting is Google and other organizations have digitized entire libraries, so many of these books that our old are public domain for free. You can read this book from nineteen ten where these ideas got started and instead of hearing someone's interpretation of it. Now you can see where this idea developed in how they looked at the world back then now here's a real quest. Yeah. Is that act? Absolutely. We both agree, incredibly valuable resource. Is that worth giving up the data like maybe we should just accept the fact that they gave us something to change the world? Of course, they got super rich. Hey, Mark Zuckerberg. I know what you did. It's okay. It's okay you take the data you take a pitch. Richest person what you deserve it. You shouldn't. You shouldn't just give it away for free. Well, I changed the world in a better way. No, you should take advantage of the fact that you changed the world in a better way to profit in some insane spectacular way. We generate billions and billions of dollars the thing we don't know is how they are generating that profit. That's the issue. Yeah. So if they're doing it in a certain way that we know about all right? If they don't this is where it gets tricky, because there's an element of fraud in it. Why think they must be terrified? But both Twitter and Facebook. They must be terrified if their influence of culture, the action, of course, there's no way they can't the responsibility must be insane. Do you know how, you know this has a lot of people who are Republicans during the Gulf the Iraq war. And now look back on it. Who were beating the drum beats men? I'm not gonna name names, you watch interviews, and they're like that shit was fucked up. And when you look back and you realize you had a part to play in this unnecessary war. And if you're someone who. Cares about human beings as a Christian, whatever that will fuck you up for life because it's like I had a little part in this. Like when I do my work with North Korea. Right. If I help ten people, that's a huge fucking deal. And I don't take that shit lightly. I've had here's the power social media. I've had people three or four tell me, I'm going through chemo. And I read your Twitter and it makes me laugh throughout the day. That's fucking huge. Conversely, if you're on the side of Hillary Clinton. And you realize that your website, Mike be contributing to her demise. Oh, yeah. And realize that other countries might be posting fake accounts that are that. Are, you know, have these groups is discussion groups, and they're based in Russia, and they want to talk about black lives matter? Yeah. They wanna talk about abortion, or they wanna talk about southern separatism her all kinds of, you know that IRA research group in Russia. When you find out this is all happening on. Your platform, and that your platform. Yes. Likely being used to manipulate how the world is run. How financial markets are run international politics. And you just wanted to help college kids, get laid. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. Kind of Jack the I what about what about the kids when they were torturing that retarded kid was at Chicago and there were streaming in our Facebook, that's your site. That's gotta fuck with your head. It's God will there's been murdered live streaming New Zealand. He was streaming. I mean, there's many, many cases of horrible things that have been put on their ISIS beheadings, and there's no way they can catch it all there's no way in we when you talk to Twitter or you talk to Facebook or YouTube, or you, they'll tell you the just, just, I want everyone to just think about the idea that seven billion people. Let's be real conservative, potentially three billion share just three billion just three billion people can all send something at once. At the speed of light of bits of information headed towards YouTube or Twitter. Facebook is trying to catch it on some of it's Nazis and some of its frogs and Alex Jones band's name and they just everything's flying it out. And then congress is like, Mr. Zuckerberg. I know what you're doing is like, hold on. Let me drink water. Mr senator. Yes, we know what we're doing. I think I think Mr. center. No, there's no negative Senator, he's doing also he's he's not. He's not a monk. Right. He's not some scholar. He's not a genius. He's on lightened. He's a guy. He's just he's not stupid guys smart guy. But he's just a person just a human, and has an insane connection an insane. He's the CEO of one of the biggest groups on the planet where people exchange conversation, which still hasn't verified men Instagram by the way, but it remind not because they're not seeing, only seven thousand. That's my weakest one, bro. Yeah, that's the fuck up but. But it's also like Lucy Lucille ball. When she's working the chocolate factory, and then shot, but just coming out, and then they go faster and faster. There's a certain point where you, you're not gonna be able to process, this information and scan it at any, any filter bites nature, any coder will tell you is going to be imperfect, and it's going to weed out people. It doesn't want to weed out and leave people in that you don't want to leave in any filters only as good as its creator. That's what I wanted people to kind of understand from Jack. And he did a pretty good job explaining that. And then saying that it just shows you the problems with trying to monitor these things at scale. But the thing I will say to Jack is one work around, if someone is a high enough platform where they're contributing the, the laws against obscenity, the ruling was if there's some cultural benefit here, it's not regardless of seeing. Right. That's a blue pool. If someone is big enough in terms of their part of the public conversation, you should have a manual person. Double check triple check before they're blocked. You could give him a warning and explain why. Because it's important to here's the question. For what if there's got to be rules when you are getting blocked? If you're threatening violence against someone you, we see if you're sending like dick pics to report, or you should be blocked. I mean, and if you if you have putting up people's information, dachshund putting people's address out right you go to your home, right? Telling people you want to pay someone one hundred dollars, take the photo, the photo and video of someone who's not giving. Permission. You're uploading in offering. This is what that guy. Yes. Offering doubt. That's crazy. So that work, ask him. I'm not Jack. How can that work? I don't know. Jack get it. But very easily that people like that you should tell you that will you be banning if you're dachshund people, yes, but someone is doing a parody. You could be like take this down for X Y Z reasons, do the thing is. I think they tried to make a differentiation between dachshunds someone and threatening to dock someone. This is how the kept Kathy Griffin on. Right. Remember when she was saying, I want names, these kids, who are these kids. You know, imagine if they did, and the, the kids, eventually all their information did get one of getting online. But when you watch the full video, and you saw what actually happened like God, damn, you people have really shifted a nanny, I posted a picture of myself holding up a bloody Clinton Hillary Clinton head that I wouldn't be banned. I'm not gonna find out, but that's a big deal. And I don't even I don't she was obviously doing a joke. I didn't find it offensive. I think it'd be funny if she was wearing a hijab while she did the photo. But the point is, she had no consequences. Twitter, none. Yeah. I think you would be banned. Yeah. Almost positive you'd be banned. It's for whatever reason. It's more disturbing. See a guy hold a woman's head. Sure. That's true. Tennessee. Even if it was a Bama, the ideas are like Kathy Griffin probably wouldn't be able to cut Trump's at off, like he kicked her out. He's a big dude, if she, you know, she came at him with a knife. I mean she'd have to shoot them and then cut his head off, which I guess you could do. It's not as long as she's got us the palms the palm to the nose. Thompson knows knows bone. The bring a would you do that? I'm just trying to like run the numbers in my head. There's one hundred twenty six million daily users on Twitter. How many people should they hire? Remember when we ask him about no, I'm just remember? I'm like, that's going back over my head like how that Q if, if someone could get through one hundred day if they could get through one hundred spending five minutes, sure on each of them. It's five hundred minutes. That's more than there. It's you. It's a manually. There's no way you're gonna do use the reporting systems smart. Yes. Like you're relying on the users to report things that are at issue. That's smart. But it falls victim to trolling. Then someone can just decide to tack Jamie Vernon don't do it. Got trolls at the worst. Yeah. Those fuck that's oh my goodness. That's the kind of selling that's just being an asshole, dude. We already did three hours. 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Increase your business revenue 10X by diversifying your marketing efforts

"Welcome to episode twenty-seven increase business revenue by 10X by diversifying your marketing efforts. Welcome to the PR. podcast with Ranjini Joshua the only podcast that teaches you how to strategically navigate world of Public Relations and social media and grow powerful brain. Hello and welcome to episode twenty seven today we're going to interview Ryan. Cooper of plural, which is a direct response agency in the health and financial space. Last week I was talking to Ryan about Learning more about direct response is something I haven't heard a lot about and I. You know I, think everyone has heard the term, but maybe isn't so familiar with it. So I thought it might be a really interesting topics in the PR playbook. Playbook podcast so today ride good tells a little bit more about direct response, and why you should use it if you should use it so I. Thank you for joining me today. Ryan it's great to have you on the PR. Playbook cast great. Yeah, thanks for having me glad to be here. Yes, so I think the first thing, also we. We'd love to get a little bit of background on you and what you're doing at plural. Yeah so. My background is a little bit interesting. I before this I was actually in healthcare, healthcare, business, administration, and a complete complete ninety degree, or in this case eighty turn about four years ago I got into the direct response, industry and overtime. develop connections with some some really. Important people people are important to me in very talented copywriters from various backgrounds, and we came together and we decided. Why don't we do this together In in this case, we can get into the type of marketing it is, but in some cases six heads better than one and we can. We can. We can offer a lot of value to clients by by doing collaborative efforts so. That's where we're at with plural. And, you're the CO founder cracks. Won One of six one and six guys are all Co. founding interesting startup story. If. You had told me a couple of years ago that we were going to have six co founders. Of A corporation I probably would have said it was a bad idea, but this this somehow just works. I can't really explain in a quick answer. Why now that makes sense I'm sure you guys all bring some different value to the table. So that sounds cold, so I think the first thing is. Can you break down direct response marketing? What is it exactly? Yeah Direct Response Marketing essentially as a strategy designed to get an immediate conversion Basically you can either take warm traffic or cold traffic. In what I mean by that is cold traffic is some someone coming directly from like Google or facebook or other AD network? Warm traffic meeting in your on an email list, and you're getting this offer in. It takes the prospect through a journey. and. That journey is essentially a platform that generally consist of a sales, landing page or more popular, nowadays of video sales, letter presentation, which can be anywhere from ten to forty five minutes. It's call long form copies along Promos, and that the key with direct response marketing is, it's It's immediately measurable. You generally get the result very fast, and you can track your our allies very very closely. Yeah, so I was reading a little bit about direct response. Just what it is like what how people define. And I did notice that and I thought. This is crazy like you're talking about the long form content who watches a forty five minute video and one of the things we talked about was that it was very similar to like maybe infomercials. So how would it be different than infomercial? It really depends on the overall format. There are certain beats that kind of go into an infomercial. But Rep response has actually been around for a very long time. It started. It started with the sales letters which. allows. People call it junk mail. Because because it's, it's really not meant for a broad market for the most part, it's meant for a very if you're the type of person that doesn't ever open junk mail than you're not a prospect or direct response. It's been very effective, and there's been actually a lot of a big products that have come from from direct response, but yeah, then it translates into infomercials, which is TV and we've all seen those. and then essentially infomercials that translates into online, which is essentially a similar format. Where you know, there's testimony you see you see the formula you Kinda Kinda dig into a little bit. A story of how the product there's usually a guru, not not all the time, but and then there's. The essentially the. Testimonials in the product itself, but you know you've. Everyone's heard of oxy clean. King from a direct response type of format obviously billy mays. Icy Hot came from. Direct response is well back in a day, so feel. Like it does seem kind of like an old school approach before the real question that I originally had I kind of want to know like. How has it evolved like you do a digital marketing as well so like? Has This direct response? You know obviously from paper junk mail like you say or like infomercials. Has It evolved to adapt sooner digital environment, or is it just really like the same old school approach? No I mean it's. It's definitely adapted. The the principles are generally the same. But your goal is to get is much inside. The. Needs of the prospect is possible on a very personal level So you know if you're selling this as an example, if you're selling a supplement that helps with hair restoration. Even say something more personal erectile dysfunction. You can. You can essentially through these through this format having conversation with a prospect about things that are still personal. They wouldn't really talk about what their friends and sometimes even their family, so the general, the general idea of direct response has not the tools themselves have. I. So. What it is yet is an old school approach, but the bottom line is is that we all have? We all purchase because of the motion. We back it up with logic. And Yeah, we, we don't like to be. We don't like to feel like we're being sold. So that's where the long form comes in is doesn't doesn't generally just throw out a hey by this. It's a it's A. It's an easing any type of process. You're identifying with the advertisement as you go into it more. Is that kind of the idea exactly? Yeah? Man and someone goes through the format they they can. They usually decide at some point. Depending on the content of this is for me, or it isn't for me. If it's true, then they're. They're captivated and they're in there and you've got them, but if it's not for them than that's where you see the the balances. Still I guess that would be lead to my question. What are the best industries that benefit from direct response? And how would they find it and? Maybe I have questions, so let's just start with that. One of the best industries that benefit from direct response marketing. Yeah generally, it's going to be products, products, or certain types of services, but I'll say that the biggest industries are say health in supplements. Finances is actually huge. Biz Up which is. Business, opportunities are learned as start your own business or but it's even branston to pet products, prepar proper markets, big for direct response now self help you know even self help spiritual INFO`products. Really anyone who who has a high quality product that you can't really get anywhere else in in. It's more of a niche market type of thing it'd be can't compete with the big guys. Direct response is generally. can be a good way to go depending depending on your market. Okay, and like that's that's really interesting I wonder I mean those are the industries that typically do it. Do you think? Do you think personally I guess from your experience and your expertise that there could be other company types of companies that would benefit from it just based on how you know that it works. Even though they're not maybe leveraging it right now, you know. It's really hard to say it. Really what comes first is the market. The market I does somebody want the product? Is there a need therefore? It unfortunately. If you have a product that nobody wants her doesn't sell well it you can't you can't. You can't hit the direct response button and make it sell just like you can't with any other with any other platform, but I think it's more so a case by case basis, but there's a lot of a lot of advantages. If you don't have the budget to compete with on the Amazon Platform yet, you can, you can generally get some good results in testing. You can test the product very quickly. And so what? What are you? What are some of the results that you're able to see from these campaigns? Like what I guess, maybe before that like what is the process, so you create a campaign? Does it go out through email? Like how does it get disseminated? And then what are some of the results that you can get an obviously I? See like that you know responses from direct response is actually like almost immediately. You know of the campaign successful or not. Yeah, yeah you can know. If the canes campaign successful I was talking to a cold traffic agency. The other day they said within seventy two hours. You'll know sometimes sometimes forty eight hours, but essentially the process is if you have a product and you have a story. You have testimonials. If you have people have used me. If you think you wanted to give the product shots than at that point, you know you would approach a copywriter direct response copywriter. They would enemy short version of this they would. Be Able to develop a script. given and going in. You're talking about video production. You have to have a lot of pieces together to be able to do it correctly. You have to have somebody who's really good at coal traffic. You have to either have good email, list or access. It's and essentially you. Everything revolves around that main funnel, though the video sales letter over sales, landing page and more self promotion question, but like do you get the email? Is it something the email us is not something that the customer usually already has is something you guys generate. If they don't have an email less what you would, generally they might WanNa do is they can start with affiliates. If you don't have an email as you can still launch your product you can. You can launch it through affiliates if you can get affiliate network going in through coal traffic, you just have to have the money to be able to spend you know one cold traffic advertising the other option you can do is. If you wanted to take a slower approach, you could start with a Lee magnet, which is you know a free report or bonus or something in a start building a list, but yet you can launch a product without a list. Is this going to cost. Right because you're you're. Paying the advertising part then. Correct Book, How can we determine if direct response is? The tarp is excuse me a type of marketing that we want to do like how. How do we know we should explore that response opportunity. Yeah. I would say al. go back to this. Do you have a quality unique products? Is there something about your product? Somebody can't get just anywhere. Do, you want to know immediately if it works. And then I would ask You know. Rather excuse me I'll add to that. Do you want to know if it works immediately? Rather than having to wait for branding to do its thing because you know, brandon can take quite a while. Are you operating on a smaller budget when you can't compete with with brand if you can't compete with brands than? Direct response can generally get you quicker results and and measurable results so that that's some some of the things I would ask. I'm we talked about? Will you talked about you throughout budget a few times that it's kind of a a less expensive route. Could you give us an idea of what direct response campaigns costs? Yeah, you're looking at church in it varies by copywriter varies by process, but. So, if you already have a product that's difference but I'll throw this out there. Say say you want to develop a product and supplement and get it going. You would start if you're starting from literally from Ground Zero. You're probably looking at about okay to develop everything and get it on. I'll be about fifty thousand if the dollars. If you already have our product, then all you have to do with that one is hire a copywriter and you do have to get you. You have to go through some of the video production if he during video sales letter, but. Yet you can get. It launched pretty quickly generally for under under twenty pounds. and. That be for the whole campaign. Yeah, that would generally be for the whole campaign. There might be some compliance people you have to pay along the way, but generally with direct response, the goal is to get at least ten times journ vestment. Wow so this is actually a really interesting way. If you're like you. You mentioned from Ground Zero launching something completely from scratch It's an interesting kind of method of doing that it's. Almost like a startup strategy, yeah, yeah, exactly yeah and direct response I mean it is very effective. For example for client, we recently had a funnel done for. It was actually a specialty I. Beg Cream Right now. They're scaling on facebook. ADS cold traffic ten thousand dollars in revenue. Wow, if it still keeps to that. Keeps that tranquillo Logan at three million. This year. if it all comes down to connecting properly with the prospect, you know, there was an email I wrote a couple months back when we did some optimization on someone's video sales letter just on the first couple of minutes the lead and then I wrote a Rogan email that was catered to that, and we generated eighteen thousand dollars for client in one day on just by optimizing it properly, so there's a lot of potential. Cool? Wow, that is really interesting. It's I. Just find this you know, and that's why I wanted to do this podcast. I just found this I. Feel like it's like an untapped, and maybe it's just me, but I feel like it's kind of an untapped area that I don't really hear much about until I started talking to you about it, which we kind of we kind of you know worked our way. Way Into it from a digital marketing conversation so I. Don't know that I would even have approached you about direct response because I I didn't really know that people are still doing this type of marketing, or how effective it is, so it's really interesting to see the kinds of results that you can see on in a really short period of time and makes me WanNa, do something relation. Do Director Song. To give you an a quick anecdote. That one of the clients that I worked for I know part of this product. Unfortunately I love to. Love to say that, but so a couple years ago, they launched a weight loss product. You know the one who who the Cossio. Who whose owner or excuse me who who actually wrote the funnel he he was in the line at the grocery store. He saw that there was a certain nutrient that actually would help with fat loss that. Study he wrote the funnel in three days, they develop the product which that that takes a little bit of time, but they developed the product launch it out, and I'm not kidding that I was told that this product made forty eight million dollars in revenue in one year. Wow, that's powerful. You'd be other now. That's not atypical result. At least accessible result. Yeah, yeah, but it goes to show you the power of this platform of used crockery. Yeah, it'd be kind of reminds me of crowd funding to on it. You know it can be really really successful, or it could just fall flat. Absolutely that does happen to yeah. No, that's really interesting I really thank you so much for your time today. In sharing this different marketing approach I think it's definitely worth knowing or understanding different marketing strategies in what you can tap into if you're a new brand or if you're even existing brand who's looking for new options I think this is really interesting. I would love to do like for you to do just a little plaza where people can find you and how they can contact you obviously have your information in the show notes that Can you give us a little? Primer on where people can find you. Yeah, yeah, if you go to plural, plural is unlike not singular. Plural. The plural copy dot com. You can actually go to our website. It's very minimalist. It's literally just one page. Kinda represents who we are. There's there's. There's straight to the point. You'll get everything you need to know about us on that page you WanNa talk to one of us. Just go ahead and Click. Click there and then just give us an email and. Glad to talk about copy the any pointers or see what we can do for you now. Great, that sounds awesome, so if you guys want to learn more about Ryan and his team at plural, please visit, plural, copy p., l., U. R. A. L. Copy, dot, com, and discover how to either work with direct response copywriter, or to increase your business revenue ten times, which I think is kind of crazy, but it works so it's cool to see. Do you guys have examples there to on your site of projects you've worked on. Actually, you know we were talking about that yesterday. We might throw a little page on their some examples because we have. Yeah I mean if somebody wants. If you want to go on there and email me, I'll be glad to send you. Some examples. Very proud of our work. All right sounds good. We'll thank you so much. Thank you for listening visit. Our show notes for more information on how to reach Ryan. embassy direct response may be an interesting option for you as always. We appreciate show feedback suggestions in any topics that you might be interested in hearing more about. Email at podcast at silver, telegram, DOT COM, or contact us through the website. You can find this episode. Show notes on this overcharged Graham Dot. Com backlashed the PR playbook cast. Thank you for listening and have a great week.

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11 Trivia Questions on Son Words

Trivia With Budds

11:05 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Son Words

"It's eleven trivia questions on sun related words. That's right they're all words that have asked and somewhere in the answer. This is trivia would buds. It'd be welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks check out. My show comes out every single day wherever podcasts. Sr found. And I'm so glad you decided to check it out on this very special day. It is the start of Thanksgiving week which means we are about to eat so much food about to be so much pie and so much Turkey and green bean casserole all kinds of very good stuff and I'm excited for it. I'm going to try and fast like the day or two before you're fast. I mean just not eat everything in my house. I'm just GONNA eat a few things in my house so that I am nice and slender for Thursday and then Thursday. I'm GONNA go nuts. It's going to be great. I can't wait and I'm just excited to lay around on a given day and not have to go do anything so that's going to be a ton of fun to play Games with the family. Eat some pie. I pretend to like football. It's all in a day's work for this trivia host and this weekend was all in a day's work because I got a lot of stuff done man me and the wife had a great time over at designer con two thousand Nineteen D-conn as they call it a couple of years. Ago was the last time I went and I got press passes which was great because as you know this is a very journalistic program. You're listening to and they invited me to come and I got tickets a couple years ago. It was at the Pasadena Convention in Center. I think something like that and it was a little on the smaller side so they got so big they moved into the Anaheim Convention Center and designer con is really cool if you like any kind of art. There's like a little something for everybody there. There's very specific stuff where you're like I like all art that looks like it's melting. And then you can find that like this guy does melting homer simpson melting mickey mouse etc.. Then they have very specific like anime type art booths than they have people that just make pluses or sculptures or posters. My friend Casey O'Connor was there with his friend. Shane and they do a thing called voltage. VHS I've plugged them on the show before Casey's been on the show at ton Pop Culture Casey and instagram. He is my Go-to Guy. I for all pop culture news and he was there with this. Really Cool booth where you can buy these VHS lamps where they take old tapes and they put lights in them and they added things like Bluetooth motion censored stuff so we went and checked out that they had a big motion sensor VHS tape wall that was very cool and I actually recorded a quick podcast with them that I'll put out later this week so you could hear what that atmosphere was like there at the Anaheim Convention Center but actually I had a great time walking around and I will be talking a little bit more about that on that episode but but that was a really fun part of the weekend also Sunday was really fun. I hosted a completely jam-packed Bingo event at high point brewing. So that was a great great time and Saturday night. We did a big fifty person about ten team friends Trivia night at off the grid brewing in Apple Valley California. I'll be putting all the rounds ends up as a episodes in the near future. So if you like friends get ready for some friends trivia. And I'll be doing that. Live event sometime in January at last name brewing. Probably Upland California if you WanNa play again and you missed the first friends Trivia night and southern California income to that one so be on the lookout for that on my website Trivia with buds dot com. Today's Today's episode is all about Sun. Words in this was recorded at last name during last week for our live Trivia night there which is every Wednesday at seven thirty to nine thirty pm and all these the answers will have S. O. N.. Somewhere in the answer so might be the beginning or the middle or the end of the word but be sure that you have S. O. N.. In your answers and you're playing along or writing them down. We're due to jump into this recording right now so here. We go trivia night at last name brewing up when California. Thank you guys for being here. We're on the first first round trip. This is called son. Words all the answers feature the letters Aso an in the beginning middle or end of the word number number one is the criminal act of starting a fire number one the criminal act of starting a fire number one question number Vertu for Sun. Words is just two words deer meat number two deer meets number twos son words number two. We've got two simple words. Deer ear meets number two number three a larger core MAC pie. For example number three son words a lark or or magpie for example number three a Lark or magpie for example number three number three number number four a shade of Red Sun words number four shade of Red. What we're talking about their number four shade of Red Ed Trivia Trivia Trivia? Grab a beer and thanks for here. Comes question number. Five fourteen lines in in IAMBIC pentameter number five sun words number five fourteen lines in IAMBIC pentameter number five. CV can figure that one out English majors. Here's we got an English majors here now. Just me turns out when you're English major and he don't teach English you host Trivia for living number five number five. We jumped on number six here. It is the first name of the boxer who beat Floyd Patterson in nineteen sixty two for the heavyweight title and Lost Austin in one thousand nine hundred thousand four hundred twenty two year old Mohammed Ali number six the first name of the boxer who beat Floyd Patterson in nineteen sixty two for the heavyweight title and lost it in Nineteen Sixty four to twenty two year old Muhammad Ali. What does that first name? We don't need the last name you can write it if you want to see the first name of that boxer number six Paul here comes number seven another name for Dolphins Echo location number seven another name for the dolphins and their echo-location number seven number number seven other name for Dolphins echo-location go here comes number eight the NBA team. Gary Payton played for from in Nineteen Ninety two two thousand three number eight the NBA team. Gary Payton played for from nineteen thousand nine hundred eighty two two thousand three number eight number AIDS. What team would that be in the NBA? Gary Payton number eight number nine a binding of lyrics for tunes since to be Sung or performed number nine binding of lyrics fortune's to be sung or performed number nine number nine a binding of lyrics fortune's tunes to be Sung or performed number nine. And here's number ten. Romeo Beckham in relation to Elton John. Number Ted Romeo Beckham in relation to Elton John Number ten number ten Romeo Beckham in relation to Elton John Number Ten and your bonus question for two points son words number eleven. What letter word would describe? People like Vince offer billy. Mays and Richard Simmons for two points twelve letter word would describe people like Vince offer. Billy Billy mays and Richard Simmons two points. If you can figure that one out that's the end of round number one son words we'll be right back in just a second with the answers and scores. Excuse so here we go. The answer surround number one son. Words Number One criminal act of starting a fire was arson arson number number two deer meat venison venison as anyone here eating a lot of venison. Raise your hand. Anybody yes is it good. I've never had venison it's delicious Number three large magpie for example would be a songbird somber. They sing songs number. Four a shade of Red Crims is in which is also an alkaline trio album title if you like that Band Crimson. A number five fourteen lines in IAMBIC pentameter that's a sonnet Shakespeare Jake Speer wrote one hundred fifty something number six. I named the boxer who beat Floyd Patterson in nineteen sixty two and then lost. Muhammad Ali sixty four sunny listed sunny sunny listed number seven another name for dolphins echo-location Ability Sonar Sonar number eight the NBA team. Gary Payton played eight four from one thousand nine hundred. Eighty two thousand three. Was the supersonics Seattle Supersonics number nine a binding lyrics for tunes to be Sung or performed was a song song book songbook so because of the clue binding of lyrics the binding noted that it was was a book so song by itself didn't cut it there number ten Romeo Beckham in relation to help and John is his Godson Godson and about Esera two points. The twelve were described. People like Vince. Offer Billy mays and Richard Simmons spokesperson. I also accepted sales salesperson. 'cause they're usually selling you something on TV. I didn't accept personality. Although that is twelve letters and has aso added it. But that's not exactly what I'm looking for Tuesday all right. Thank you guys for playing around. We'll be right back with around two in just a second there it was. How many Johnny did you get right? Did you get all eleven questions right. Twelve possible points. Let me know your score. Send me your scorecards. I always like to interact with people who play along with the show getting. Give me up on Ryan. BUDS DOT COM or Ryan Buds on just about everything social media wise. It's time for question the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of Sandy Miss California. They they make amazing printed t shirts like some. I gave away yesterday at Bingo night at high point brewing in San Diego California and you check out their website. FM DESIGNS INC DOT COM. If you have any ideas or something you want to customize talk to them what MTV reality show had stranger searching for clues while traveling around in a Winnebago that is your question. Tweet me your answer at Ryan. Buds or email Ryan buds gmail.com to be eligible for that prize. Yesterday's question of the day answer was Delta for an airline slogan. We're looking for and your Trivia Review team name of today is ace of David Spades. Ace of David Spades. Thank you guys so much for listening to the show. 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Why Voters Stick With Warren Mayor Jim Fouts With Vices Trevor Bach Plus What Know Around Detroit

Daily Detroit

17:08 min | 1 year ago

Why Voters Stick With Warren Mayor Jim Fouts With Vices Trevor Bach Plus What Know Around Detroit

"Chris Full Day in Detroit's North End and welcome to your daily Detroit recorded on Thursday October twenty fourth. I'm jair stays and I'm Cheyenne Sereni on today's show another historic building in Detroit. Cut the on the demolition list. The governor wants to expand and the number of people who qualify for overtime. Pay a cat cafe in Ferndale is expanding. And there's a vice peace making the rounds about Warren and it's mayor. Jerry talks to the journalist Trevor Bach about what he found. So let's get to it recently. We told you about the impending impending demolition of the Saturday night building for twelve parking spaces in downtown Detroit as TV's Pitchman. Billy mays would say but wait. There's more according to historic Detroit Dot Org and we're just getting this as we're recording the show the theater portion of the historic work united artists building at one hundred fifty Bagley Koby demolished as part of a redevelopment plan by the same developer behind the removal of the Saturday night Emmett moten. It's part of a fifty six million dollar project that would turn the eighteen storey building into one hundred and forty eight apartments to be completed in twenty twenty one. This city is being asked for about two point. Four million dollars in tax breaks according to a separate cranes report moten a longtime operator in the city said that rules around a federally backed loan and private banks require the theater's demolition. Although the theater is in disrepair due to decades of neglect by the owners the illitch family activists say it could still be saved. It was left open when district trae plans were announced what would happen to the theater and now we know what they were thinking. So Shiloh added my two cents hear that until recently I kinda thought the whole like historic building demolition spree in Detroit was was mostly over. I think in part because of a better real estate market in in part because developers like Dan Gilbert's bedrock showed that you don't have to take stuff down look at all the stuff on Woodward look at the Chrysler House you just goes on and on and on and in part because frankly like there's not many historic buildings and structures left in greater downtown right. Because you know why it's forty percent parking lots but maybe maybe this won't be a landscaped fenced lit parking lot maybe it'll just be landscaped or maybe just maybe we'll just get a few of them but I guess not I mean this is disappointing waiting for me. There's not much of historic Detroit. That's truly left and I kinda think that I know it's financially hard to do but like maybe we can preserve what we can. Maybe there needs to be more funds or or something for Legacy in this town Michigan Governor Gretchen. Whitmer said today that she liked to expand band who qualifies for overtime in the State of Michigan. There's a federally set threshold for who qualifies for that in the United States. Make blow it. You legally really have to get paid time and a half for overtime over forty hours make above it. L. At it's up to what you negotiate. Democrats generally want to level to be set higher so that more people get mandated overtime pay Republicans wanted to floor lower saying the free market should be the driver under today's rules salaried workers that earn less than about twenty three thousand six hundred dollars a year have a right to time and a half pay when they work more than forty hours a week. The Obama Administration tried to double that on their own to north of fifty one thousand dollars a year but a federal judge blocked the move now. The trump administration is doing their own program. And yes. It's a raise but that level is only up to about thirty five thousand five hundred a year. The governor is now looking to change Michigan stance and said our own overtime floor. Likely it'll ever look closer to Obama's but she does not outline. A specific amount governor Gretchen. WHITMER is office. Says there will be feedback period of six to twelve months as the Labor Department researches. They say they'll get input from both workers and businesses before making a recommendation so stay tuned. This next next story is national but has a lot of followers here in Metro Detroit. The restaurant chain Popeye's will bring back their chicken sandwich. In early November it was so overwhelmingly popular that it was basically the most talked about thing in this city and many others when it became available and then quickly ran out. Popeye's APP is we'll be hiring two new employees at every store to handle the expected increase in demand. Many people are looking for a politically guilt. Free Alternative to the popular chick-fil-a options and it seems that Popeye's is stepping up for the job. One of the last K.. Marts in Michigan is closing using this is in Warren mecom county at ten mile and Ryan the mccomb daily ads on that. It'll be closed by the end of this year. Kmart with roots in the KRESGE. Five and dime stores back in the day was a homegrown retail success story a quarter century ago. They had about twenty five hundred stores but they were not able to adapt adapt with changing times. The final to Kmart stores left in our state are in Waterford Township and Marshall. School bus drivers monitors senators and mechanics working for trinity transportation. In Detroit have voted in favor of joining the teamsters specifically local to forty three the a union vote passed with more than ninety percent support. You might have seen Trinity Transportation Buses. When driving around town they provide privatize school busing and other transportation tation services and are part of National Express a global company based in the United Kingdom? A cafe in Ferndale. Aptly named the cafe is expanding. The ferndale catch shelter. The five hundred one C three nonprofit that operates the Cafe Lounge has moved into eight. One seven Libranoy the one thousand square foot space adjacent to the current cafe cafe. They'll open the expanded space about three blocks north of eight mile to the public. This November nonprofit says the new space will serve as the entry away for the cat cafe and provide a separate space for food beverages retail. And all those other fine feline things and it allow for more room next door for the cat. Phase rotating cast of adoptable felines. The new space will also serve as the office headquarters for the Ferndale count shelter. The Cafe Lounge also has plans to start requiring donations for admission up until now they had been allowing entry on a suggested donation basis single. Admission tickets will be ten bucks. Wall monthly passes for up to four. People are available for fifty bucks. There are various events that happen there too like Yoga and parties and of course scores. You could rent this thing out. I'll tell you if anyone wants to have a daily Detroit meet up at the cafe. Hit me up at daily traded gmail.com. It might be the perfect to get together. Gather though show. I'm not sure you can go. I'll just have to take my claritin. Detroit area businessman. Roger Penske is getting the highest honor. The Government for Memphis does on a civilian president. Donald Trump is awarding the presidential medal of freedom to Roger Penske. The logistics magnate was crucial in bringing bringing the super bowl to Detroit as well as the Detroit Chevrolet quicken. I can't remember all of the companies in the title Grand Prix. He also runs a successful motor sports team. Same joining me on the line is Trevor. Baki is a freelance journalist. Who's written for a variety of publications? Today we're talking to him about about a piece that caught my eye especially as it deals with Metro. Detroit and the national conversation. It's called this. Mayor allegedly said vile racist things on tape voter voter. Still stand by a minute advice linked to it in the show notes. Trevor welcomed daily Detroit. So what caught your eye about Warren. which is a suburb of? I believe. It's more than one hundred and thirty thousand people in the southern part of mccomb county. What's your caught your eye about Warren and and Mayor Jim Fouts in Warren is a pretty interesting place In that we played they betrayed suburbs a big suburb city in a way. Not the largest in Michigan politically. It has a long history of being really nationally relevance in going back to the Eighties Warren had supported John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson or I shouldn't McCone county hats in big numbers you know sort of traditionally democratic check stronghold and then yes flips. You Know Sport Reagan And so you have this. This county really appetite outside Detroit's avoids That that has this great national relevance as far as you know in a lot of like deciding elections and of course in two thousand sixteen mccomb was really instrumental in electing Donald. Trump is a hundred and thirty thousand people in Warren. But it's the largest city in mccomb ooh county which is really you know critical national level and then escorts fouts He's he's been in office a long time. You know what stuck out against what the One of the parallels with the scandals that kind of merging from fouls and of course the scandals that are emerging from Donald Donald trump or the the kinds of nasty vile things that the president says regularly seem to be mirrored Pretty well with south was allegedly saying these things report and takes. I'm so there's instant kind of parallel there But that also really the idea of south of mayor public figure and these these horrible allegations keep coming out. But what's the consequence you know. As as far as what's actually happening to him I mean he has been able to basically deny everything and and maintain maintain his office and wanting the primary in June. So it's what is what does that really say With he can sort of just just hang on and that way. I'm curious what you think makes weeks from your on the ground work. What do you think makes fouts so bulletproof? I think a couple of things going on there one you know. He's been in August. been there a long time. He was calculated before he was there And he's you know he's really he's really good with people. The comments of course are awful went viral. But there's another side to him as a servant and I think in a lot of ways it's fair to say he's been a good public servant and ineffective mayor in a different way you know maybe more importantly Larry you know he he connects with people You know everything people you know I was. I was hearing about really. He's hands on and he's kind of old school politician in the sense that he you know he shakes hands with a Lotta people and connect with what has his visibility ready and accessibility around how that I think people really Appreciates you know he. He was popular to begin with right before before. These tastes emerged You know he's he's been for a long time. It's kind of an institution within warrant but then you look at what else you know. Contribute contribute his you know sorta bulletproof. There's sort of a more abstract question of what people really believe Or why don't tape believes you know these these allegations so these tastes that both of you know you look at it and how how you how do you conclude that one other. Yeah very little doubt. One thing I would note it I would note here is that it seems to be that there is a correlation where people kind of want to believe certain things. I mean you kind how to draw a through line between fouts and trump. I see a few of them. One of them being is that neither of them are establishment party people. I mean mccomb. County me is a Red Democrat area. They're not loyal Democrats and and a lot of ways are not loyal Republicans fouts the same way he can constantly paints himself as an independent. Don't but another thing about that. Is that both figures have supporters. Who I mean they just do not want to believe at least they don't seem to publicly want to espouse that they believe what they've heard or there's an immediate dismissal of and this is something we've seen a lot on our facebook page of Yes? Maybe he did that but my services are great so I don't care. Those are actual like quotes that. I've heard yeah I mean he's you know mccollum has of course as independent streets. It's not a it's not really a conservative or liberal place you know. It's what independent and reportedly malleable and fouts is. It's a personal connection. You know he's a thousand people. It's not a hardened connection. I think that anybody in unwarranted cares that. He's you know that he leaned more democratic. It's more about what is he doing for them. How the city running you know in their in their lives And then I think and the question of the the comments right that did so. It's a couple of things going on one. Is that people. I don't care in a sense. Don't care enough but I think a lot of it to the people it's sort of this other idea of well you know. I'm not sure that he actually said you know this. This kind of doubt around it. So people people believing or deciding to believe that they just don't bite in a sense that so I think if you walked around war and and read the comments from fouts you know disparaging disabled people when and black people. What Women you know what I mean. Nobody's I don't think you're gonNA find anybody GONNA say. Oh yeah I I agree with that. That's good right but it's people sort of coming to the conclusion that well Now that that's bad but I don't think I don't believe I don't believe I don't trust the media. I don't trust sort of the you know at the conclusion of our public officials. Even you know who called on him to resign and to me. There's this deeper sense of just a distrust facts and of institutions that I think also I mean also obviously out there with with trump's support right. It doesn't matter me up for the forty three percent under whatever of people who are loyal to trump. You know it doesn't it really doesn't matter what he does. What new scandal burgess out of Washington so looking ahead to the National Scale because Warren a lot of ways is representative of much of the United States suburban? It's majority Jordy. Although warrants demographics are changing it's majority white you know how do you see that kind of impacting. The the national conversation the mentioned in two thousand sixteen mccomb county was was basically is critical of anywhere. US In deciding election in twenty twenty. You know I guess. Get the remains to be seen a little bit. I think I'll be very important Michigan. Also along with Wisconsin Pennsylvania kind of the the Blue Wall as it were will again be very hot territory but I think it's maybe a little early To really tell that they wear sort of the swing states I will be it might be and I think I think the electoral map by a little bit different than twenty twenty but certainly you know mccomb and and then warrant very indicative you know of the way. America is is feeling as far as far as the national election while trevor. Thank you for taking a few minutes to chat with us. I encourage people to read his piece in advice. Dot Com. This mayor allegedly said virus things on tape voters still stand by. We'll have a link in the show notes. Thank you trevor. Thank you and with that we are done for today. Thanks for listening and to our members for

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Ron Lynch - The 3-Part Formula That Can Make Any Product Sell

The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

1:09:01 hr | 1 year ago

Ron Lynch - The 3-Part Formula That Can Make Any Product Sell

"This is an intro intro intro intro. A soul if flow chart with four. Hey, welcome back to the hustle and flow chart podcast. Joe Jair Matt. That's not fair. Joe press record thinking he was going to get the upper hand on me, but I got it. That's not fair. You got to be the one to press the button for once. I feel so powerful. This is weird. We actually I feel like it'll be doing look at newscaster now because, like, we actually decided to get all professional and print out notes for all of our guests. This is a little interesting right here. Well, it was both of us. We have a new take on her team. And we also go through and actually do a ton of research, on every single guest, we do best. We can. And it sound like it sometimes we like to sound like, we don't know what we're talking about. Well, we actually do insane amounts of research to sound like, we don't know what we're talking about scenario. We look like we used to present these things on the TV and Mets office, but we're like kind of annoying can't see everything on the same page, especially if you have a lot of notes, or if you want to check out websites, over talking. So now it's like, hey we could be newscasters like Ron burgundy shout and a Wales vagina. Wow. Too far. That's where we live sago German, the go. So now we have this. That's the sound of newscaster papers flickering in the wind. And now we look smart, we can take notes, and it's sensually. I mean definitely helpful way to do it. This is the longest intra without saying who the heck we talk. And we're talking to you today. How did we go three years of podcasting without actually using printed notes because we were trying to be know it alls and use our brains. Good not. Well. Who are we talking to Mr. Ron Lynch, and Ronnie Lynch, Ronnie Lynch? This was a fun episode. Hell, yeah. This dude is somebody. We expect anything less. Now, we always do episodes, but Ronnie, but Mr. Lynch himself. Come on. Come on. He was bringing the game. No, so run Lynch is a guy that I really really wanna go sit down and out beers with, because I feel like we would get stories for days and days and days, this guy worked in the infomercial space, he was involved in, like Oxy clean. He worked with. What's the infomercial dude's name? Billy may Billy Mays. He worked with Billy Mays. He has his watch even that's really cool. He's the marketing genius behind gopro. Have you heard of gopro? Never. It's this little, like opposite of this. It's like a camera that you can ride motorcycles and strategy your head, and it goes underwater. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he didn't invade go case. He is the marketing genius behind it that helped create the entire marketing campaign that blew up gopro to a household name like household other than Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Off the radar but I also hear that Ron makes a really good pizza. So that's actually why I wanna hang out with him a little bit more. But obviously, I think he's actually pizza maker seems like all right. So Ron, he's, he's done a lot into info commercials and all that stuff. But even screenwriting he went into that whole background. He actually he breaks down how he thinks of just just how he formula, just how he writes, these screenplays and stories and jokes. And they all kind of are the same thing at the end of the day, you'll hear that. But it's just it's, it's really cool to hear his thought process. Yeah. The process and actually getting stuff out of his head, which a lot of us, don't know, how to do this wasn't episode where I personally had a lot of I'm sitting here taking notes going, this is something we can use our business. This is something we can use. He broke down a strategy to pitch anything literally, he broke down a three part strategy saying, basically, if you use this flow, you're going to be able to sell stuff, and it was just awesome. I mean this guy worked in all these big infomercials now. He's got a very great on. Career taking what he learned the infomercial space, applying online. And so we just cover the gamut of these topics of infomer- the infomercial world, and the online world and bridge, that gap, and it's, it's some amazing stuff and you are going to learn something. So you earned this one off. What why would they I'm going to gracefully transition? Into saying that we're gonna take the notes for you on this episode. Are we do? We always do that. Well, Stephen, does it. Okay. Yeah. So we have Stephen, he's the host of the hustle and flow shorts show, and he takes notes on every single episode and graciously makes those notes vailable to you for a short amount of time. Why is that important to me because you can take notes on these notes? You can say you don't have to know sells you can look at these notes you can frame these notes. That's that's very good. You're not hitting any of the benefits hit me at all. I'm not hit the benefits all no, we take note because you're probably driving right now, you're probably out for a Walker doing the dishes or something. And don't have a pen and paper in front of you, and we basically find all the golden nuggets in this. And we put them into a nice little companion that you can go and get them from a few like things. That or golden nugget finders, which met is our Stephen is. He's like troubled pig. I was in visiting. Cry. Good because essentially what we're doing we're providing for you here with the letters over calling. Well, no, it's not it's the companion. So leverage, our truffle pig, and go to hustle and flow. Chart dot com slash comp COM. And that's where you can get the details. Two companions again they're only available. For a limited time they do go away like a week after the podcast is live. And then we have a way for you to get it, but it's all explained there. So go get these notes, while they're still available hustling flow, chart dot com slash comp. See you in. Let's talk to Ron Lynch Ron, welcome to the show. Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me Matt Joe. Good to talk to you today. Yeah. We're chatting a little before the recording talking about all the crazy lunatics that we know. And the interesting things that we try to tell ourselves like we're good musicians and your Elton, John. I hear. So it doesn't matter who I play it sounds like. John. And you have the suit to match, which is really cool to showed us asking gap between my frontier just for that very purpose. Surgically done into implants. Yeah. Man. Well, thanks often ought in. Yeah. I think just in the last month or two been referenced by a lot of our guests. And we're just like okay, well, this is really cool because he's booked on the show and didn't really stay anything specific. So left me with a lot of questions wondering. Okay, so is interesting. He's done a lot of cool stuff, referenced or indicted it might have been indictment. Yeah. I'm gonna leave that to them. Let's talk about it. I mean you get quite the history and you run in all the different circles and see that marketing circle of a lot of the guys like baby bathwater, all those these insurance polices that they hang out. We're I mean just catch us up to kinda where you started, and we don't need the whole, you know, dog and pony show. But where Where'd you kinda get into this whole game and, and brought you to the point where now? I'll skip the twenty years of grocery retailing experience, that I had and jump into movies and screenplays because that's really where I started as you didn't have any takeaways from your grocery days that you applied to the film industry. I have zillions of them. Oh. Usually. No, we took we took crappy grocery stores and turn it into great grocery stores in the tool for doing that was cooking kiosk in the store, so we did alive since I thought you were. I thought I thought you were saying that you were like a grocery Bagger and were going to skip the part where you bag groceries for twenty years. I was actually one of my favorite jobs. I hope that when I retire that groceries because you get to meet a lot of people in autumn, a great job. I worked my way negoti business when we did demonstrations, eventually, you know, for director goal, it's actually really cool. I did demonstrate product instructions in stores like whole foods and stuff at some of these things that you said it was fascinating, man. You meet some interesting people. You meet a lot of a lot of weirdos too. Reclaim about that in. It's something I've never said on a podcast before. I think it's kind of fun. Is there this, this really old kind of kooky, black lady that used to come in my store in Seattle in Queen Anne hill, had her name was Sarah, and she we would put a chair for her in front of the cooking demonstration booth and a we had a chef? There is Emma. Jacques and jock was in just absolutely. The bomb great demonstrations in Cerro would come into sees demonstrations all the time. And sometimes it would rain she'd where plastic produce bag on her head. And she's really sweet. And it's one day, she said, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna hang around. She kind of a Louisiana accent Samaranch sun's gonna come in and pick me up later on said. All right. I didn't think anything of it pretty soon about seven thirty this limousine rolled up in front of the store and Sarah's son the Quincy Jones allow serve Jones. Quincy Jones mom was customer and cheese to come in the store, and he came news looking for my mom and I mean I, I could could kill me off the floor with a scraper. I was absolutely the bottled. This was at the height of mice of Michael Jackson's thriller album. Yeah. He was like, okay. Yeah. Actually, just what was the guy's name that we just saw presentation from at war room. Oh kin Craig in Cranston. Lionel Ritchie, and he helped. Yeah. He worked with Michael Jackson during that day's. Yeah, crazy. Yeah. That whole era. I mean that's the thing that grocery stores. I remember from back when I was in there. You never know who are gonna run into. Yeah. He's crazy. People. You don't sensual mentors. Who knows? But you worked on you worked on, like go pro and I think was Oxy clean. Part of the soclean business and new Billy Mays very well wrote a couple of infomercials. Weather is a good friend of mine. I have his orange watch gave me a forty castaway a good dude. Cool. That's so cool. So how did how did you get into that world? One of my customers in the grocery store was shooting infomercials for the George Foreman grill. And he introduced me to George Foreman's agent Sam promoter. I sold Sam promoter a script for movie called the real Vanessa and. That the guy called me back. They said, hey, did you sell? Sam promoter. Script goes had made him said through you. You can read an infomercial. I said absolutely in the next week. I was an infomercial business. I was out of the grocery about. Wow. Okay. So it really did start in the grocery store that very cool. They make Quincy Jones. And you started this whole new trajectory selling scripts. Steven Spielberg's partner. Kathleen, Kennedy is now the head of Lucasfilm her sister, not the net store. I met her there as well and leverage to two scripts to Spielberg early on. It was a very unusual store. Let's just. Where about that store? That would blow your mind is this out in Austin, but, you know, Seattle's on clean it hills, a tiny little store, but I will tell you everybody in the world shop. There was just it was weird like beedon's Abe, ours, or New York. Wow. All right. That's the place to be. So let's say you're in the biz, you know, in this info, info business now, you know, infamous -mercial business what, what was that? Like like you sold this script. So what did you do after that point? I ended up making a writing and directing I spent a lot of time on sets. So I kind of walked into the infomercial business, and they allowed me to direct things right away. I went right from the bottom to right to the top. I did I did food service for about a week an infomercial business. And then I started directing 'cause I knew how to run a set so and I knew how to do demonstration and you had to make zone. So we just put films and demonstrations together. And that's infomercials an over the course of the first few years. I work with some really excellent. Psychologists Tyke copywriters like Steve Ober, Marsha, canton. Rick cesarean, Sean Fe, and people that were talented in that space and. Then turned out ahead of natural you know gift for that kind of copy. It sounds like a trial by fire, you just kind of, well, you willingly, you know, putting yourself into the whole ring there. And it just kind of developed organically, it did, I was extremely fortunate because when I started infomercials, there was a lot of inexpensive media on television and the first four or five shows that I did all over a hundred million dollars. Wow. Which was very unusual. I didn't know it was unusual, which may go, oh, this is easy. United Kevin Harrington's flavor. Waved election foe Marshall did over one hundred million dollars and lasted ten years, did a light relief that lasted ten years, I had a lot of shows like that early on just work. So I was very fortunate and then the business got tougher and tougher as channel expansion happened in media diversified in the internet came along. But I am very grateful that I got to do that, then, because it taught me how to market on the internet. Yeah. So you're, you're already ready? You had the formula down. You had you had all the all the resources. It sounds like just to migrate to the internet. I imagine that the strategies and philosophies are pretty much the same. It's just a different medium. You know, I think that it isn't isn't because a lot of people didn't make the transfer. There's a lot of idle colleagues at never quite figured out the internet men or me it was it became relatively simple. After I had done a show called. Arrogance era, garden was of complex complex product. It was a hydroponic garden of your countertops, but it had a number of consumer verticals, so we had to make advertising that was appropriate for a variety of verticals, and that was the thinking that unlocked, gopro for me, which was one product with multiple verticals and go pro came along the same time YouTube Facebook took off, and verticals became important. So in that those years between seven and eleven. We saw the shift of fifteen percent of ourselves going from online is an industry to sixty to seventy percent. Now it's eighty percent online so learning how to channel market vertically integrated brand is the secret to the internet and the folks that are doing winning. Yeah. So with, with some gopro, using them as an example, did they start off with one vertical in the extreme sports kind of angled? But how did they? His whole vertical thing when you when you got involved, you know, Nick Whitman's really smart guy, and he saw what was going on? I originally wrote the brief in the strategy for the company in only did it in about three or four days. And then we got together, and I'd written him a half hour infomercial, and we'd agreed that we were gonna shoot this half hour infomercial a called me one morning. And he said, hey Ron, I don't wanna do that is it. Oh, shit like that. I was being fired Mike. What do you wanna do? He goes, I wanna do thirteen different spots out. Good take the infomercial. I run spread it out on your bed. Was a spot for different sport. Sir shot like thirteen different sports put him on thirteen different networks. So it was under the brand umbrella of gopro, but you guys, probably saw things that were reflective of your personalities because of the media, you're interacting with serve their lies flat. Bottom racing forgo pro in Florida. There was people on ATV's or people on kayaks or people skiing. There were people on motorcycles and bicycles. So that the, the launch of that product was really in multiple verticals. Wow. N was it? Always heavy on YouTube for those verticals in the message to get out there or is it other other places online? It was it was primarily on television in those articles and the moon, you've got online, it was more and more verticals, because there was an endless supply of people providing content for us, and we were real smart, because we provided them with the opening all the Algo commercials have the same opening which is out of the product says, go ProVia a hero in all of them have the same CPA at the end or did for ten years, which was every day, we give complete suite of products way. And we made those two creative elements, available online, so people could make their own gopro commercials. And you couldn't tell the difference between a consumers gopro commercial and hours with the exception of the precise time length and the specific content interesting. Yeah. Because I'm just picturing a typical gopro commercial in they're all slightly different. But yet the opening in the endings the same in. And. Yeah. Like I totally forgot about that. But it is kind of crowd sourced in a way the messaging in the middle there. The first two years ago, we had no athletes, we were using consumer footage and we have one guy Neil who was inside. The company is dad was a CFO and kneels famous for being a wing suit guy jumping off cliffs in Norway. For eighteen months or so it was all user, generated pretty much Nick, generated it from racist car, but it was primary primarily user generated, then we got Kelly Slater in Shaun white and Kenneth Sean Q years and Kelly only stayed for a year or two. But that was that was kind of how it started. Yes. So in these verticals, if someone were to apply something like this, maybe they wanna crowd source the material. What does it look like in terms of the persuasion, in the flow of video like that, like, are there still is voice over on that kind of structure? You guys follow. In, in gopro, one of the things that was interesting was, there was never any features benefits shown who's just roughly. So there was the opening in the clothes that had audio hit with the kind of the bump bomb. And there's no o in any of them, and it was music, and frankly in the first year or two, we had to we had to put the brakes on them as a client a little bit silver source music off the internet. We're like, well, you can't just take anybody's music, dude. You're rude. And we ended up creating a whole bevy of music with them that we were hiring bands. They provided a catalog of songs, and it was easy to get the consumer to make commercial than the right links song. Right. Got it. That makes six second clip. And that's what they're gonna cut to. Gotcha was the reason for that length of time, the forty six seconds. Twenty six on. Yes. Because it gives you two seconds at the front for the tag in two seconds of the end for the tag. You've got a second Marshall. Okay. So it's just. Yeah. Nice little hit there. Interesting. Okay. So going now. Okay, you've done so many projects. What? I'm trying to think of where to start because there's so many different rabbit holes. And what's a commonality above them all a flow that someone listening here? Can take your wealth of information, these different products, and things you tested is, they're kind of like a structure that you like to follow when you're creating some kind of short video or something, persuasive, that you always kind of lean on. I I there is a formula and I tend to do two minutes. One minutes in thirty seconds, ninety fifteen second videos, any, it's I think of things is kind of the structure of a joke, in a lotta ways is what's opener the gets you listen to lean into a joke, and then what's the middle of the storytelling, part in the end, is the punchline and good creatives are generally structured like jokes. But if you think about that jokes or stories, there's something dazzling in them. There's something to get your attention up front end in many ways. They're like short horror movies or movies, start the same way. There's something shorten suspenseful upfront. The engages you are movie trailers, there's a they're short journeys that we are enticed on in the challenge that most people business owners are people that have invented something have is they want to jump into the story about that. And the viewer wants to hear a story about. Them. So my number one thing is always make the story about the viewer and always make it interesting about them if you can. Create curiosity up front. You have a much higher probability of engagement to flake. Would you say opening loop something that's already in their heads something they're thinking about that? You're just like okay, this is gonna be a trigger and I'm getting them. It's that grabber to take them deeper into the story, right? From the beginning. Yeah, and I want him to self identify so that when I utilize the media that I'm not wasting media dollars people that aren't interested. So the, the algorithms of Google in YouTube, and Facebook will grab the right audience. So there's a there's generally a technique that I teach teach a lot of classes. I'm sure you guys are where one of the really simple techniques that can cover here in covered in other podcasts, but it's interesting, I think is the three question technique of there's three questions. You can ask anybody that closes them before they know what the product even is. And the first question should qualify them with either their problem or the hope of the solution, you're gonna offer the. Second question, gives them an insight that dinners innovation. They've probably never heard about that, if they will keep listening to you, you're going to share and the third is that there there's going to be an offer that they can obtain that unique solution. If the hang around long enough. Any product in the world and use that process in, in three sentences close somebody and get them you clicked your website or get them to listen to listen to a longer piece of content. Do you have any examples of that in use like, maybe for go pro or you know, one of the products that you've worked with in the past that these are the three questions that we focused on for this product, I do, do something different? Do you don't mind? Let's let you pick a product and I'll just do it to prove that can be done with pretty much any products shoot. Okay, office and see something there. That's legitimate product, pending product is. And we'll do it. Let's talk about the was the takemichi acoustic guitar in the corner air. Sure k to bloom guitar, and cou stick electric acoustic electric accusing okay, don't even know that. There you go. Did you ever have the desire to kind of be a star? Maybe even play an instrument. Did you know there's a new way to learn how to play the guitar with one of the most incredible tools in the world? That can be acoustic or electric and make you a star. In fact, if you listen, just a little bit longer, we can tell you how you can have one in your home tomorrow and play a song alive in front of people this weekend. Boom. That is amazing. Where do I buy three back can recover the story? Right. Nearly any know what a Taki tar is, but I'm kinda down to do this. Yeah. And selling us. A lesson guitars. Yeah. I love it. It's like we're just showing you this tool this thing. That's yeah. It's beautiful, but let's be honest. Play it. And they're like talent you're gonna get the attention you want. So we could you know, you can do that with anything and people will lead to go shit. I'd like to learn how to play the tar couple of days. Well, if I had the right teaching tool, and they exist. I know they do I could teach you how to play a song liven three days. No problem, I did decide to do it in our. Okay. So this is amazing because you could use this. I'm just imagining all the different use cases of this three question technique that you have here. I mean you could. Okay. Go ahead. No. I mean, it never doesn't work never doesn't wear. Yeah, I know there's one place that it doesn't work. Yeah. Could see its intrigue in people love stories and you're cooking them right from the beginning. And that's something your stories. Yeah. I stayed. I didn't sell a guitar playing guitar. In the potential of what's in that person. Maybe their desires matched up with the Caribbean. Youtube recommended video, maybe your ad pops up with that message right there. I can also see how well this would work for a company like gopro because the gopro marketing is literally you looking through somebody else's eyes experiencing something that they're experiencing, it is giving you a little insight to that, too, because after that to second intro of gopro hero, bump, there's always one more element that all of the commercials and something that we crafted intentionally and that is the POV of the footage. When you turn the camera on, on your computer, the first two seconds is always you looking stupid at the Cameron this thing on. That's true. All commercial start that way they start with an avatar of surfer or somebody had goggles helmet. And they're it's them looking going. Oh, yeah. The things on. And then you turn around and see the footage. So it's those two key of that really is the first question is are. That ask year, would you like to show people where we did visually show, your face than show your night, you don't have to tell anybody your bad scare you just proved it? Yeah. It's a quick flash. So have you seen this, this same kind of model like the gopro model outside of projects that you've been involved with, but other folks do in this really well and other spaces other companies? Yeah. I think that people do while all the time in, I'm no, you're gonna ask me for an example, and I'm gonna be hard pressed to come up with. Yeah. No, it's obvious. There. Constantly you. Yeah. 'cause the gopro, just seems like the most obvious even without your rounder, almost everyone has that picture of gopro video, because they're so frigging, many of them that was such a prolific campaign. I mean it's still is still. Yeah. Models, been tried and true. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess, on projects when you produce them now because you're doing a lot. I know you do a lot of mentor ship. You have your agency a big agency is. So what is, is the focus to always? I don't know. I guess what a good starting point for someone who has a product that feels like there is a larger mass-appeal. Maybe they wanna use video approach is there a starting point that you always recommend, for folks, they're totally green and have never done before. Yeah, there's a couple of things you should do one is, you should you should make sure that you have a business. So when you should as creative in strategic brief ad of you guys have been my Facebook page, I think, but the top of Facebook page, there's video that's been there for a while. And it's making pizza in my kitchen, and I walked people how through how to add pass and show variety of ads that were made extremely inexpensively, and then I show some expensive adds to show that the techniques use for cheap stuff can be used for expensive stuff in by versa. But path is important than when you watch the video at the end, it says. Hey, click the page message. We send you a blank strategic in creative brief, while the purpose of that is for anybody to sit down and go okay, do I have a product that's got a true US p unique sales proposition. Do I m I solve a real problem because if you're not solving a real problem in the world you probably don't have any innovation and you? Might potentially be selling a commodity like if you just go find something on Alibaba that you really love but four hundred other people are selling it in the world. You are fast gonna find yourself into the race to the bottom of price. Enam is your ass. So you have to have innovation, then you have to have an audience the problem that I had. When I started my career was I had to pick things. I was good at it, but I had to pick things exclusively that appealed to eighty percent of America because TV's expensive. And I was showing eighty percent of America my products. So I had to have cookers and vacuum cleaners. And like these consumed Sumer goods electronics that would appeal that everybody you don't have to do that anymore right now. There's people Frank current is a great example of somebody who went out when he started his career. Did this dog training thing? Any went from breed debris, debris. Capri labeling the same thing with different breed of dog, get amazing audiences. And conversions because he was basically telling people baby with our dog writing lab lover. I can teach you how to clear, golden lab, and the internet is right with that kind of focus so you can target shit out of people, which is incredibly useful. So you need an audience, then you need to know you have margin and you have to have afford a five to ten x margin to market with you have to have that space in your product financially, to have the profitability to feed the marketing machine to grow three things are critical yet that's the starting point. Now, you once you get past there, then you talent now comes the storyteller. Now comes can I tell the joke Mattel the story head I be compelling? Riveting to keep somebody's attention for fifteen seconds to fifteen minutes to close them on a purchase. That is going to be beneficial to them, and that's an important thing to me in. It's very critical for when I select a project front is that I know that the end users can have a great experience, when my biggest piece of advice people's don't sell shit because it's gonna come back in hunt. So good things because the end of the sale is not a consumer purchasing the end of a sale is having a purchasing consumer happy, who refers, another purchasing consumer for free. And that's how brands are built are people saying, no, I bought it. It's good. It's true. I'm glad you're an early adopter, but I bought it. I in band tastic product you should get it. That's how brands are built that is so important. In other referral aspect of it. I'm just thinking of like this toothbrush. I bought in actually died the other day. It's one of these can, you know, they'll, they'll deliver you new toothbrush head bristle thing, every three months. You're always fresh. So the Dollar Shave Club of toothbrushes. Exactly. I mean there's a million of those now in the thing, di- the other day, and I was like crap, like it's only like six months old, but the hell and we hit them up, and, you know, they're, they're like, yeah, we'll send you a free one replacement. You don't have to worry about it, and didn't ask any other questions like shit. That was cool. It was like within five minutes. I'm like helium to tell people about. This company now. And now you're broadcasting it to a podcast, it's getting listed by tens of thousands of people, and I don't know, the name of the brush, so it's not really gonna help them too much the breeder finance is. Yeah. It's yes. And to your point. So here's something that we this came up the other day, I was in an interview segment in a roundtable, the bunch of people, and they were discussing the difference between direct response marketers and brand marketers. And I get super frustrated as an audience member 'cause I've done both successfully. I didn't feel like the people that were talking about it really had their hands around it because they were either brand marketers or direct response marketers, and they hadn't done both. And this is something that I think that everybody should get their brain around is people think of brand marketing as being Kleenex. Oh, would I wanna tissue? I think of Kleenex in that's how people refer to. Well, that's true. But Scott tissue is a huge company f c is a large company like Kokas, so there's some. Something more to brand than just can I substitute my name for commodity. And I believe what it is most of us as human beings interact with five or six or eight brands as. Merit badges for ourselves. We add these brands to our life. So we're communicating the with the world who we are. So if you think about the car, you drive, the type of bag, you put your computer in the type of gene or shoe or pant in shoes that you wear and jacket and sunglasses. You can start to build a character like a movie character. Right. If you wanted to build a certain kind of movie character, do you want to build a Jason born? You address them like this, if we wanted to build a JAMES BOND, we'd dress them like this, whether both spies there, but they both do the same job. But we definitely know the character traits brand differences between Jason born in JAMES BOND. To movie companies have done a good job of distinguishing one from another. That's what we do is people. So when you're building a brand, what is the attribute the personal attribute a single attribute you want your person to grab and put on themselves. And if you start to look at brands that way, like Nike and Adidas Puma. Can you distinguish one from another with an attribute definitely right spring? What's what's the merit? Badge west personality. Character trait, I'm gonna get from being either a Porsche guy, Alexis guy afford, one, f fifty guy or available guy. Right. Or like Joa, tesla guy brew guys. So even the planets. Yeah. But is it when you start to think about data is that, that is the reason I buy that brand? Yeah. Like max, it's apples apples, apples brand with computers and all their phones and stuff. Same thing. So predominant the US not globally. Probably. Is it something with society in the way that we kind of use these things as a status symbol? Could be came at one of the smartest things Steve Jobs ever. Good with apple was the headphones light. As you knew what was in people's pockets, the minute those headphones came out. Watch their headphones me new. That was Napa product. That was no accident through. That's it's so interesting. I never thought about that until just this until you just brought that up. That's so interesting. The commercials like they highlighted. The headphones is the only thing that's everything I never made that connection. They're all sort of like silhouetted, but you still see the white headphones. Yeah. The product in your pocket. Dan? That's cool. So then so you have that combo of. Yeah, I could see the brand in the direct response. You're pulling in all these different characteristics. And now you know with the internet and it just makes it a lot easier with the verticals you were explaining now. The only differences. There is no difference. Is that all the brand people are now coming to direct response because they're learning? Hey, you can tell a consumer story about them instead of about us. They can click to buy or they can click for interest and you can chase, they're asked around the internet forever, 'cause you've got pixellated now got a flag manager on them and we know exactly who they are, and what to serve him next. Those are the people that are gonna win the marketing game one hundred percent. Yeah, it's all about segmentation. We touted all the time, as you know, we do the same thing we fall, everybody around based off of segments. So is it basically getting to a point where businesses shouldn't really say, look, we want to focus on direct response or branding, like, really these days? It's, it's all of the above right. It's direct response branding. And that's another one Frank Kerns actually doing right now. Really? Well, using Frank as an example, he's really really big on the branding game and just trying to have his videos everywhere right now. Yeah. I mean we. I mean we. I love the guy. He's absolutely amazing. Proven town. Yes. And I live what you said about the whole screenwriting thing, too, because I know that's that's something that you do as well. It looks like, and I think Ron Robert was kind of telling us as you still enjoy to kinda right out this all these different screenplays, and it could see now how it, it involves so much of branding direct response story persuasion, all these elements. Do you do that at a passion, or is that like a practice thing that you're, you're always writing and thinking of new angles and storylines? I like you know it's funny I just I just finished writing a book and I'm working on it right now. Tucker max now. Tucker method is you go. You hire them. They get you a ghost rider and they kind of work together with you. That's not how he'd writes says, not how I right? We're, we're, we're saying, we're comfortable saying, we're close friends, and I wrote this book, and I, I started writing a joke, and it was a joke about. About people trainers train trainers coaches coach coaching how to coach on the internet, or you have never done shit that are out there selling their programs like highly skeptical of their expert piece, because they don't seem to have any actual experience. And I was thinking about the story about a kid training going like seen in animal acted the circus, and going to the trainer going hand to learn how to train gorilla, and it started as a joke in my mind, and I came home and started writing the joke, and actually, our mutual friend robo rat Hendrickson was over stay into house. And I said, I started writing this joking. I want you to read it, but let me finish it, and I was at about fifteen hundred words about three hours later, ended in seventy five hundred words while like do this isn't a joke. A no it's getting trained into a book, five days later, I could housing words. Dude. Book Tucker, anyone that is the most boring book in the world. No one's ever gonna read this action where you're trying to cut it in half. And so I got to version seven of the book and we. We talk some more about any goes use writer screenplay because this is really a screenplay about this. I'm like you know what? You're right. It's kind of my core talent, though. And slow now I'm writing that is a movie but at written, fourteen movies now and I just like the process storytelling. It's to me it's discovery 'cause I'm writing. I'm not writing a movie. I'm watching a movie and taking dictation. Goddess, so watching a movie meeting someone else's move. You're kind of taking are you taking notes from their story? Is that what you're saying? No. I'd say. If some movies tend to start with things like, hey, there's a knock on the door and opened the door. And there was a box, and I hope box in an all do sit back as a writer, and I watch the window appears in my mind, the upper left corner of the room. And I watched what comes out of the box. And see what the character says, and then another character shows up, and I literally take dictation like people who said they have been channel or whatever. I don't know channel. An act of imagination. I just watch what happens and I write it down again. Can get paid sixty surprises. The shit outta me. Though is gonna ask about the process, but I love how're Ganic it just flows to you. That's amazing always start off with some kind of mystery thing. Like I like the box idea because it's like anything can happen. Let's see where the mind goes to tell you. I mean that's a true story for me. I, I saw in nineteen ninety nine son episode of HBO's real sex and segment on these animatronic robot dolls called real dolls. And so this guy's not I don't know if you're familiar with this or not. This is actually a thing in. It's not a huge I've seen it. It's creepy, very aware. We don't need to talk about how very wary is. In the same room. Yeah. It's weird. But I went that went Bill down into that thought process of okay, let's say, you get a silicone Hardin thirty pound five foot six animatronic, sex doll that has I guess is animal, correct. How would you want to go down that rabble? Okay. So this is this exists. If I had one of these, I just immediately went, I was raised in a pretty decent family. So I'm like, okay, but say my folks come over. Let's say my friends come over. Let's say I get a girl. Let's say that I used that they can you wash this thing, by the way like these questions started entering my mind like this is a pretty weird thing. Yeah. And then assertive think about the objectification of women went on stopping right there. I'm gonna write a story. So I wrote this movie about I have to piss people in my mind. So I picked you grant and Liz early or a couple of time. And I wrote this movie about what Hugh Grant was UPS driver. And at the end of the week at UPS auctioned off all of the shit that was not deliverable Alva damaged products to each other for beers on the loading dock, and he got a TV, and he got home and he opened the box. And there was a foot. That's how the movie started in my mind. So I wrote this whole movie and eventually sold it to Sam Pearl mutter it got rewritten a couple of times became a movie called Larson real. Which would Ryan Gosling for smoothies. Remember that movie? Wow. How to meet the movie, by the way, the script day rewrote it with a sag writer, and it was completely different atomic, but if that's how it started for me. I was just like. That's a weird topic. It narrowed it down. Interesting. That's funny. I actually remember watching with my wife with Ryan Gosling and he had the doll and he kind of fell in love with the doll and. Yeah. Like the was a real person to benefit psychology. Wow. This is just so cool because I mean, I'm sure we all have our own level of imagination, but it's up to us to actually get that get that stuff out of our head vision. In end also extend the vision, it's like a yes, end like okay, so the box box of Ribe. Yes, What's going to happen after that, that, and who knows where that happened that takes you? I mean, do you do you ever have an into goal with this? Like we're you know this conclusion, this is where I'm headed. I'm usually surprised. Sometimes I know at the end is usually surprised by page, sixty or the middle or the turn in the story like characters appear and things. Things happen. It surprising characters. No each other halfway through that. Oh, they knew each other before the movie started. I didn't realize this characters knew each other, and that's part of the reveal the things like that happen. But through the process of learning to do this, 'cause I always, I started at a very young age doing this outstanding movie set, and I was standing next to Jeff bridges who was the star of this movie. And I was extra in the movie and I asked him how do I get to be near shoes? He said, it's super easy. Make sure your dad is Lloyd bridges. That'll do it. I'm like, well you go you gotta point there. And he said, if you can't do that, then. Right. Because if you right, you'll get a job, you always have a job in Hollywood. And I'd already been an actor a couple years. And so when he said that I just took the advice and everytime. I have got good advice from a mentor. I just went and applied it and what I discovered very early on, was the work comes first. If you got my first patent when I was nineteen wrote, my first movie when I was twenty. All of those things became beneficial. In a lot of people, I think, wait for an opportunity to act upon the opportunity. And I think that the inverse is actually true, the universes waiting for your actions to provide you with opera -tunities based upon the actions, you've taken. I love it. It's similar to read something in the believes the four grievance the book, and it, it's it was essentially, it said something about believe this is the right book. But yeah, you stand at the edge of that cliff and weep for, you know, wings to magically appear or you can jump. And you know, essentially something will there's wings will appear, you know, the, the universe got your back and, you know, the right path will shape up. You're basically creating opportunities with that action. And I will tell you that my life has been an absolute non stop experiment in that thinking and it is off one hundred percent of the time. Wow. I love that. That's cool. Universe, that most people don't figure out in the ones that do can't explain it to the ones that won't listen. Do you ever get in times where you get your head and it stops you from action? Yes. But I've also been times where I've been stopped from action due to the lack of available resources technology around me white had had, let's say, I've had product products or projects that I've written down. And I've said I'm going to do this, when the resources are available or the technology catches up and those have turned out typically to be very true. And then the action now when the technologies okay I'm jumping in now yada. Interesting. Yeah. That makes sense the resources. So I actually have a note here on our notes. I'm kind of curious. What your thoughts on on this, how has media and the marketing and stuff? How is that affected? The, the real world in reality. I, I have a note here may have been something you mentioned on like different podcast or something about how the media and the advertising and the marketing and all this is actually having a big impact on what we see in the real world. You mean life imitating art, imitating life, I suppose. Yeah, there's, there's a certain amount of that going on. What I think that the, the most useful thought for people listening is to be aware of how something that used to be impossible to do, because it seems smaller narrow is now so possible with eight billion. People are nearing eight billion people on the planet, you only need five or ten thousand that are like, you're like your idea to create something of momentum and it's very simple. If you are very creative, and smart about doing that, and finding those people. And the internet is right with opera -tunities. It's about having a really sharp point on your spear your product in your messaging. And if you get out there and just fire, you know, needed it's not unlike the Vikings fire that lit ERO into the night sky, there will be people that will see your Earl if you if you've done it correctly. Yeah. Now with with all the videos and all the stuff you're putting online, how important is split testing to you. Or do you even do split testing of the creatives split test offers a lot? I, I discovered things through creative that lead need to split testing. I'll give you an example with our breath rocks. Product we. I launched a whole variety of creatives early on. And I probably made some mistakes and didn't realize it. But did some discovery along the way? I started pieces that were probably too long. And the thing that eventually worked for that product was doing extremely short fifteen seconds at thirty second version of the same at which was again, back to telling a joke was, you know, this product is breath. Rocks is a. Breath mint based on pop rocks at sugar free. It's got zinc, zinc, lasts for longtime in makes you breath fresh for hours, because it kills the hydrogen sulfide gas in your, your mouth in your stomach near south, so it's kinda complicated science story kind of started telling that story and then we went to before and after creatives storytelling stuff. And then I got this idea when you know what if? Who uses a Breathalyzer a cop? What if we wrote a commercial where it was a cop, pulling over a consumer, but the person breathalysed the cop? And I just took that idea built upside down went. Yeah. We could do that really short creative. So I asked my friend, Kurt Molly to come over and his girlfriend Christine, and shot the spot, which cost me literally nothing to shoot. I use my camera. One of my sons was the sound guy. We used one of my sports cars, and Kurt and rented a cop out for thirty five bucks from the like ruby in disguise here in ten. You'd be the perfect cop to. Like you know, he's he's like the perfect comedic foil, because he's guy. But he's so sweet. Yeah. He's got a little bit of Barney fife in him, but heat, not really. So we got this we, we put her in this. We have this red sports car recording. This red sports car in Kurt watch up any goes, excuse me, on your license registration, and she just immediately is like, whoa, you breath is kicking low into this, any blows into a Breathalyzer. So now you've got a cop Burg, the Breathalyzer. He she shows on her phone. Hey, at your breath, stinks. And this is by the way that products, real product. She hands him the product and he looks at the product and there's just a product shot. We don't say what the product is. And she says, let you off with a warning and she speeds off. Fifteen second hand while, but what the ad allowed us to do is allowed us to open up an ad funnel, where at the top, we simply said, woman breathalyzers cop. And it was a picture of a cop it was hurt as a cop. We opened up a second ad path. That said, breath lives matter. Yeah. We did those with intention, because we had learned earlier on that our audience was divided that we were, we were drawing in a fair amount of African American Hispanic consumers who were willing to insult each other in content. So they, they would see our ads and they would list each other's names in the comments to aid. You know, David Shawna, you need to see this. I could put people's names in it like you got bad breath. Look at this shit culturally calling them out publicly viral because people were making fun of their friends. That's exactly what happened with the but that was the second and third tier ads. I knew if I could get in an earlier ad in the path, and be more successful. So we created this ads with salacious title, so woman, breathalyse cop just in three words. Cops bad word, wouldn't call copycat officer policeman. So, you know, when you use the word cop, you're talking about a bad guy. He's thirty and women breathalyzers cop now you're going shit was this cop drunk entry. You have like you have to click it. We got with that ad adding those two audiences together three point three million pixels. Planet pretend thousand dollars. Jeez. Jesus was put the second ad now. We know who the audiences are. We parse those audiences. And now he start sending him intentionally a second third creative and enter to win the product free. Once you get to the second ad or the third ad. And then you see, hey entered to win the product free, you enter to win. I have your data in can directly get you into an Email campaign in off of paid media at that point. I'm converting people fifty percent in media fifty percent, the Email and himself in a million dollars the product. Super simple. Anybody can do that. The first add cost me buying curtain, and Christina rockface. That's. And didn't Kurt help out with some of the ad strategy to. No, we didn't need it at that point. It was just so easily. It's sore Ganic. Obviously out there in front of the stuff that we were already doing. It just crate in was like that was the minute. I went I understand this is exactly the same as infomercials start chopping ends in the pieces of bread crime to the audience. And I was smack myself in the head going on the guys doing this for twenty years in could have been doing this online. Need hired time. Yeah. No, we're we're super super goodbyes with I have a standing call with him every single week. And he's, he's been actually feeding me a lot of these same concepts that you're saying and a lot of it is actually kind of clicking a little bit better in my head. Just in the way you're explaining it right now too. Yeah. He's super talented at it. Well, here's the last thing about contests why you should get your product of every week is most people don't think this through, we all are four to eight years old in the inside. Eight year old kid and you see a box of cereal and you enter the contest to win. What do you do? You do it in the mailbox every day started. Okay. Like, we all did that as kids, we all still have that, same psychological expectation. What we don't realize that it's, it's actually an early adopters behavior. You enter a contest. You think that you deserve the product? You've now said, I want the product. It's mine, it becomes so much easier for me to sell you the product with offers after get psychologically cross that barrier in your mind. Got it. So the contest serves as almost like to hate just an easy way into my ecosystem. So it could follow up with maybe a coup off on the back end of that. Yeah. Well, it's essentially people raising their hands saying this product you're giving away for free. I want it. That's why I'm registering for this thing. So there's sort of confirming in their mind that this is a product that they want when they don't win the contest, it's still sort of locked into their head that, but I want that. So back to go pro every TA gopro was every week, we give every day, we give away at full suite of our products. People would see these disparate creatives on different channels. Not realizing it was huge campaign, they'd see the flat boat campaign on ESPN two and it go online. There was a pattern interrupt. You'd have to enter your data to see the website she put in your Email address that pattern interrupted go a and you'd be on the go pro site. And you'd realize Otit, everybody is going to enter this contest because they're filming everything. Thing. And we'd already crossed that barrier in the consumer's mind. So not. Unlike telling a joke, there's the punchline I it took me a while to figure it out and it was right in front of me the entire time. That's so powerful so cool. And I guess, just the daily cost of that giveaway just kind of factors into that into the ad tomorrow morning at budget, and your foolish, not to. 'cause you're gonna, you know, you're going to hand out samples your product at WalMart coal tomorrow. You'd send him fifty skews just to get into Walmer. Well, that's a month and a half for the giveaways. You one way day, if you're giving away a week, that's an entire year's worth of giveaways. Give it away. Yeah. Just give it away. And think about like there's so many info product owners people with digital products listening right now. I mean how many of those could the giveaway? Well, that's better that getting ten percent for twenty percent off your offer. Because if you start giving percentages away from your products, you're degrading, your price. But if you just flat out give the whole thing away, instill, say it's worth five hundred bucks but you can have one contests and it still worked by two bucks. Now how, how were they actually picking the winner? I, I don't know. We don't really need to get super. Logistics of how this was run. But how did they pick the winners on that kind of thing? There's, there's actually services that, that are independent third party services that you hire that are apps that keep you legal and do your picking more you so that you can play on his anybody ever sues your in any trouble. You can you can you can point. Hey, here's the service that does this. So there's a legitimate third party services that do that. Very inexpensive. Gotcha. Dada that make sense this great because you just kind of ended on this whole give your stuff away as a sample, and that's kind of how it started in the grocery store, right? Given given samples away and get them into the, you know, into the new of that product or whatever it is. You know what's crazy? I actually learned that in Seattle at the pike place market from the fishmongers when you walk through the pike place market. They've been doing this for a hundred years, all those guys behind the counter in all official leaned forward and put a shrimp, craw n- in cocktail sauce. Would you like shrimp? Consumer's mind shrimps worth a dollar. So they'd get you now giving them something. That's a dollar. They take it, and they feel obligated to buy your fish, and that was intended technique, one hundred years. I believe. Yeah. I saw that experienced. That's what's come on chill chill Dini principal. The one where he's talking about the hair care Krishna's that would go and give the flower, then they reciprocate. Salaam reciprocating. But it's you know, there's there there, there's no new stories new tricks. There's just better storytellers doing the old tricks. I love this. The plot technology in our industry, who is not in our industry as Darren Brown, and if you don't know who he owes. Yes, yes, the hypnotist magician guy that many guest mental if well, if you think about what he is he does what we do for a living. He's just better at it. Outcomes for people based upon understanding psychology. He's not a mental list. He's a psychologist so are you. That's what you do for a living, whether you like it or not. You're just practicing without a license. Yeah. And I loved Aaron Brown because he'll break it all down and explain exactly what he's doing. Yeah. After you just saw like holy crap. Okay. You're just totally human companies to wanna get into like who the hell's Darren Brown? I d e r e n Brown. He's English, and the, the one of the best videos, that's very short that walks you through like, what the hell's going on here is with Simon Pegg, and Simon Pegues birthday, bicycle Ooh, I haven't seen that one. Okay. Check video and it's absolutely worth the watch. Got it cool. No. He's, he's fascinating. I remember he had a show. I think called the push with three of them on, on Netflix. Basically, he basically convinces people that they need to essentially, try to murder somebody. About twenty full length shows on YouTube. In fact, I was about five years ago. I was teaching a class in Ian Stanley was in it. I'm sure you guys know who he is. I turn I've never heard of Darren Brown like your English should know this person. Went home, and I, I'm not kidding. You Ian is so talented. And so smart key watched, probably fifteen hours of Darren Brown straight. And called me went. Thank you, that, right there changed my life. How come I haven't seen any videos from him by bearing down, or anything bearing his? He does like light Topaz and his kid. Dr don't and. All those guys. She does bear down. Forced him to tiny Robbins. Have you seen that one? We, we wanted instead of being huge tiny tiny Robbins, small of that. I see that one that went down. Well, I think we're at the end of our time, here respectful of you what a couple last questions, what the book or something that you just recommend folks, you just find yourself going to all the time because it's that good. Minus Darren Brown. I mean it doesn't have to be a book. It could be a documentary movie. Is there any sort of resource that you recommend a lot or that you refer back to allot yourself? I use simple copywriting books that like words that sell like Allback like just look for synonyms stuff. But I'm not really in a place where this art form grew out of experienced not out of knowledge, as you can tell I didn't study this Michael that kind of fell into it. So I'm probably not the best person to ask for like, hey, this is my go-to. I watch a lot. I've watched a lot of movies, a lot of classic movies. I've watched a lot of movie directors. I listened to a lot of. Other people's ad copy in entertainment, things that I like. I thought good storytelling, because it really boils down to good storytelling. So I don't know that there's, there's kind of a, a go to I think that there's, there's one probably there's a book written about the there's only twenty screenplays. I think. And I can't remember the title of it. But that was the essence of it is probably global that there's, there's a limited number of stories in Hollywood, and that, that would probably be something that point to God yada, just stepped on stories. Yeah, they'll storytelling, and then you layer that with Darren Brown 'isms in their watch teen hours of him. I think you're pretty damn action to right. The big that I watch a lot of his comedy. Language. Now I've seen I've seen pretty much every stand up special on Netflix HBO. So. And with inside of comedy. The person is probably the most current to me, there's a lot of people that are funny. Like Jim Jefferies people that are insult comedians in separator, funny, currently, but people who are clever storytellers that are connecting destructive things. Eddy Izard is probably my favorite. Because like Robin Williams, he would take things that were not connected in your mind and connects them. And that's very critical skill. When you're doing sales, because the moment you take two neurons, someone's brain and connect them, they're gonna fire off some serotonin oxytocin chemical reactions gonna happen. And what you've just done is created a memory at any neuropathy for them. Can do that. You will enough times you as a salesperson who is a copywriter reuse brand will now have embedded attribute of the brand that you want into the consumer's mind. So when they think of you know, I want I want to be kind of like a of 'em beyond in tech in kind of in the future your tesla customer. Yeah. Yeah. You want to be involved in that whole thing. Yeah. Okay. I love that. You said that because that's, that's something that I've had a pretty strong belief around. Is that the stand up comedians are some of the most intelligent people because just what you said like that ability to connect the dots between two seemingly unfamiliar things or even to like the ones that can point out the absurdity in things that we totally take for granted. I think is amazing. I think it's, it's such a great ability to have. And I actually on my bookshelf have just a ton of books on stand up comedy because although I never planned on doing stand up. It's something that I studied the hell out of. Yeah. This book that I was just the middle of writing. Wrap? This up is. The joke was kind of, like, how do you train a gorilla? Right. This kid goes and sees how guerrillas train and some of the place that I went to mentally was carrots. You're like, wait a minute. Why would you train a grill carrots? Carrots like bananas. Mike. Yeah. So this guy's gonna use carrots because he doesn't want the kid that's doing learning how to train it doesn't want the gorilla to imprint on, so he's going to give the kid carrots because the grill hates carrots. That's funny. That's a funny jokes you like. Oh, yeah. Carrots. Thought about that. Love that. All right, guys. Good. Wrap-up. Hey, we're where should we send people get a lot going on? They learn about them. If they want something useful, if they wanna read something that I've written about advertising. You can go order the book by now that wrote with former partner partner Rex Zeri at Amazon wants something current on how to add flow and how to create a brief go to my Facebook page for the big baby agency, message the page in our Messager bought from segment in my good friend, Karl shuker will send you a fifteen page blank creative in strategic brief that utilized for any product and that will get you pre registered to get my book for free when it comes out awesome. 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Local Hour: The Gentleman's Sweep

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

46:36 min | 3 months ago

Local Hour: The Gentleman's Sweep

"Stugatz here when you talk to a Dell Technologies Advisor, they are focused on you ready to give advice on everything from laptops to the cloud and offer tailored solutions powered by Intel pro platform to to keep your small business ready for what's next call a technology advisor today at eight, seven, seven s Dell that's eight, hundred, seventy, seven as Dow. Hope everybody had a nice holiday weekend. It is the return of the local hour and poise. You can't say Heaton five all cocky before a series and then get really bummed when you lose the one game that gets to a five game series in his gentleman sweep time today in Orlando Heat and five. Do you feel it? Was I the only one rooting for? Dante who's from Delaware, but he's also foreign was I the only one rooting for him to make that second free throw after he missed the first one, the other night because I was feeling so bad for him when he made that first one I'm like I'm a fan just please make the second one I. Don't Care Chris Wore me out yesterday we actually played golf yesterday the cody's of my house are there are two amazing things that have happened the two times I've had this show up to play golf one is Mike Ryan stick a driver one, hundred, twenty yards on a par three. Three feet from the hole. The other is Greg Cody spending five hours on my golf course without drinking a single beer. Yeah. Chris was wearing me out with this take. The whole yesterday asking me if he felt bad for the Yugoslavian Dante Di Vicenzo. If he was rooting for him to make that second free throw no one was routed. There was not a single heat fan rooting for Dante that's not true. Not True not. True GonNa win and I did not want that poor kid to have to end their season. He makes one of two they go into overtime Miami can win and over time they got five extra minutes of basketball. That's not true at all like I did not want that kid have to live with whatever it is. The consequences were of everyone in the country saying you're a choker you don't have because that's the one spot where you can call a guy choker and be right when you're a good free throw shooter and you clank to for the season on the line. Feel like when you're down three and you're the one seed, they're not going to remember the one game. Dante who missed two free throws at the end of a game like he's not going to be labeled the choker you don't believe you don't believe that if he had missed those two free throws that that wouldn't have been the thing that people showed again and again in the highlights now they're asking if this is even a one anymore I think he's a two now is. And a game where Jaanus. Leaves with an injury actually the Miami Heat, blue and opportunity there not just. To end the series obviously and rest, and you don't want Jae crowder getting injured in overtime or any of that stuff you don't WanNa play extra games that can get your guys injured. But to me the thing that hurt most about that game if you sweep them and then his teammates without him can't do anything to protect him it's one of those things where he can look around and say, you know what? Why am I still here? Why do I want to be here as as opposed to what's happening right now, which is Oh my God I'm the problem because when he went out for that game and it seemed as though. Headed in that direction. Oh, my God TNT with the angle who at the producer that signs off on asking Bam out of bio after that performance in that fourth quarter the first question being about Jaanus Ankle, you guys are working his ankle more than the actual trainers get the hell Agdam wasn't here for that question. It was a ridiculous question and the person asking the question should just went ahead and vetoed it. Why do you assume that the reporters just taking a producers questioning? Talked to some basketball's most brilliant minds. Exactly how I spoke to Izzy this for a living and that the he should of shot producer I'm the sideline reporter should shot the producer down with that question was ridiculous hell of fourth quarter by the Miami. But man, they were really working this ankle meanwhile, Janas is looking Janas out there and then he grimaces after he does his thing and man, he's not looking right? Are you kidding me I just saw the guy's spin from the three point line and dunk over to he plays and you telling me doesn't look like himself but the US swimming that how you know however is he does it that's the way it's not and T-. Badge on the story there is a Miami Heat and Yoenis his ankle that he finished the game with but regardless The call made to get Dante to the line Tony Brothers you gotta do business there I. Mean it was all therefore you left injured Gorn was in a fifty fifty call Goran was in the right position. No one's going to call that a bad call if Goran and draws the offense foul doing this around here for another game here Tony Brothers he doing with that fake ass hair Mike Ryan Mike Ryan is continues to contend that he hopes that Janas plays in these games because they haven't been very good with Janas playing in the game his plus minus I think when he went out was the worst on the entire bucks. Team, I will say though for those of you thinking for even a moment that bucks team did look better moving the ball because they did I just caution you that it's because he'd have spent four games preparing to play a certain kind of way and that changed when Janas left the game, that's the reason that they look. So different. Middleton's not gonNA look like that when he's the number one guy and the heat of prepared for today's to stop the Number One guy in love that coaching job Mike Buddha Holzer did an incredible adjustment Janas out. So all Middleton mid range jump shots so incredible coaching Middleton animal although so credit the Middleton. Coaching Vice, bow right there only game plan for Yonathan, says, Janas has gone they don't know what to do every time. He leaves the floor, the bucks or right back in it. The only way they can beat him as an Janas on the floor. That's the only thing they prepared for. So are they going to do a game five Janice doesn't play Now the as a radio show, we want Jaanus to not play the next game. We want the bucks to beat the heat, and then after that, we want the conversation to turn should the bucks play? A. Game Six. We. Want the person in the media says the team is. A. Team is better without. Going, GonNa be disappointed in how congested that lane is because if they do win a game without you honest if you're honest hasn't played at night and they win and make it a three two series absolutely going to have plenty of people occupying that space. I'm going to say today the box are better without Jaanus I mean that's it. I've already carved out the lane. I'm a game ahead of everyone else. Is Amazing. So you have nothing else that's it. You're just going to go ahead and take that. As you don't have any elaboration nothing. Wow. So we're going to get. That, we're going to get that thought in reruns. Great can't wait for weekend observations spoiler alert I happen to agree with billy. It's a terrible job I spo- I mean you go you know going into the gay and Janas his ankle on a goal and you might as well have a defensive game plan in the event. The jaanus goes out you might want to do something different. It changes the entire complexity of the series ankle. Complexity or is listen I duNno? Chris is taking this far enough with the game you need to take it to a game seven or you have the hospital two time MVP. They've won two games without him. Now he's healthy. He's cleared to play a her but do they play him? They'll who knows your seasons on the line here but you can't beat this team when you're on the court and they're better without you what you do Dan. Of sometimes it's not all about talent. It's about. In being team unit team worked in IT'S A team of people it's not the Milwaukee. Yana says it's the Milwaukee Bucks what do you do to in complexity actually also works somehow this is Stugatz his lane like It's not correct. The phrase is complexion changes the complexity of the series, but it also changes the complexity of this but. In this instance because if you're honest and we have increased role for. Dante. Then it absolutely changes the complexion and more than one way. Did I get it right or not? Not really sort of got a sore. No. Got It. Right. By accident you got it right by getting it. Wrong. I think is is the appraisal one thing that I loved in that game and and he'd fans have to be super excited tyler hero as a rookie auto. Can you call it away? This is like he was drafted a year and a half ago at this point but tyler hero with guts not shying away from the moment being. Able to get his shot off with ease in those moments, actually not with ease but making it look easy because he was doing some really complex stuff moving off the ball to get those shots wide open complexity, the complexity and the conversion of one tyler hero Surprising to see him do that at this stage in his career and super encouraging that guy that guy's absolute gamer eight eight years younger than everyone playing in that Navy Byu game yesterday as a twenty year old. He'd be why you why would i? It's not the same. It's not the people talking about that game so much what did I miss because it was put? It was football. Football. Between teams that while you know normally, Garrett. They're not teams you. Care about but then you're like, okay maybe I'm here for some option office let's see what we got here. You here for some dirty play twenty eight-year-old Mormons, let's go. And it delivered because they were twenty eight and we'll ask ourselves the same questions we do every time mid majors play a prime time game. Early in the season, can they make a run to the title game and I guess I don't know this is such a weird season everything about that viewing experience and even College Game Day everything was just so bizarre thinking about that I was actually wondering because basketball I feel like basketball and baseball may have fooled us a little bit because basketball looks the closest to normal while also being a couple of notes off but. It looks somewhat normal. You can forget that there are not fans there that you're watching playoff basketball. It's possible. Baseball is sad the the fans and the lack of noise make it sad but I think football's going to be the worst of the viewing experience. It's GonNa look the most different of all of them without fans because it's just GonNa be weird to to be able to see everything like that. The one that has for me that has become the satisfied by the way you said it delivered maybe why you want fifty five to three no-one one delivered anything. Byu single-handedly delivered the over forty eight. That's fair that I think navy was a at the game right? Weird I don't know what was it was a home game for navy. So it was the sport has become. The sad is without fans for me is tennis Mike, you love tennis I love tennis I cannot watch that without fans Dan will probably end up being right about football. Just without the fans and the lack of fans but tennis would know fans is the saddest thing I've ever seen are you kidding me terribly this tournament is any indication. I never won fans anywhere because joke of it's just got disqualified for hitting a lines person in the throat with a tennis ball. Meryl Streep. By the way that got hit. I mean Jeez. really sold it. Jeeze. What was that all about How do you suspend? He was cleared that was clearly not intentional. It was obviously. I don't know if it was intentional to hit the person in the throat, but it was intentional I, think in general. I. Ball like one, hundred, fifty miles an hour and have it land right inside a line the you hit someone in the. Example. hitter. He just reacted he reacted look I haven't studied it but his. Point maybe reaction wants to be horrified. It's a great point by billy, but his media reaction was to be horrified. But maybe because he realized he was about to be disqualified that if he had missed. You. Tell me let me explain explain this part to me billy. Because of what you said because of the incredible accuracy of joke, do you think that he actually hit her and meant not to hit her and then reacted by being like, Oh, God I was wide of wear I meant I meant to just go near her head I. didn't mean to hit her in the throat I think it's one of those things that you do it and you immediately realize, oh no that was not a good idea and the face you have to put as the face of horror because if you turn around, you have degrom Roy. Wrong is like. Way Up to the top, your hairline, you have this. Done for like forever because he's trying to save and at that point, you're right. You have to put that face on because you just try to stay in the tournament at that point is what a solid breakdown of that entire situation you billy mays. We can all agree that this is into your standard summer bud even though we're staying at home, we can still find time to enjoy the sunshine safely and socially distant. 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And I couldn't get my coffee this morning without someone asking me about Josh Rosen. Being. Given up on yet again, headed to his third team in three years you call them the Rosen one? Dan. I. Wish to Know Long I man he was so good in college and I really thought he was going to be a good quarterback. We'll have a we'd no. Let's give him a chance. Played on for the dolphins and if he was showing these teams anything, he anything you're right. All right there he would have value. They couldn't even trade him. They were trying to trade him and they couldn't trade him for anything and Yeah. I'm not the only one that was wrong there but I was spectacularly. Wrong. Chris. All excited about dolphins plus six and a half at the Patriots Why Ryan Fitzpatrick starting he is swiveling his hips. He is shaking his shoulders I would have thought that you would have wanted to to start Chris instead of Ryan. Fitzpatrick. I like having one in the Chamber Dan. You know what I mean I like having something that I can go to mid season when things get a little rough fitzpatrick played great. Last season I'm excited for the season man there's just good thing. Good vibes around the dolphins right now man he does that thing with this and it just gives off good vibes the hang lose the loose. Just. Trump doing right now that's my vibe. This year for the dolphins. Let's go baby. In this case you have to in the chamber. That's right. Oh. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute to Incirlik morning. A little too much. Salt call myself out when it's a badge. Yes, you do. You have recently I think people need to take inventory of this. Recently, Stu gods has been trying to beat the loser game show sound by just shouting through a screech bad joke. This time he wasn't sure and so he went right in the middle with hail and I just now who is that? Is that Hank Kingsley Larry Sanders is that Ed McMahon from Johnny Carson, what were you trying to do you recreating the story of me seeing Ed McMahon in the found Blue Hotel in Miami beach at four o'clock in the morning hammered and just yelling at him hey, it's Ed McMahon and him throwing up an arm and saying. Oh at exactly what I was doing. That's exactly what you were doing what a bizarre precise. Very particular. I mean I. Guess You anticipated everyone in our listening audience remembering that on air. Sorry from fourteen years ago. Such a good story though it's Clock, in the morning, I see someone walking through the lobby of the hotel shaped like Ed McMahon I shouted name I'm not totally sure it's back of his head and I just yell Ed McMahon and he throws a right arm fist in the sky and gives me a Heo mentioning the lobby at the Fountain Blue Four in the morning is you probably weren't clear minded also right. So it could have just been anyone that you scream, hey, ed McMahon. Just, waiting for his breakfast. Was Del Harris or something. Well, since we're telling drunk four am stores, there's also the time I was walking with a friend and saw. General Manager. Blue Jays GM. Let's go. Was it blue Jays gm I thought at the time he was the mariners GM I think it was Blue Jays is Vegas it was Vegas. And it's also drunken story in which I shouted Pat Gillick. Hey. It's Pat Gillick, and then he hid behind A. Mid Center mid Eighteenth Century column as soon as I said it so that when he turned around all, he did was look at my friend Pat Gillick at four o'clock in the morning. And the hallway and it just seemed fairly obvious. With my friend who had shouted now Mike. You tired of these stories but I assure you that this is the first time. Most of the people listening to it have heard my lame Pat Gillick biggest unbowed most people in our listening audience worrying alive when I told that story, how many people in our audience who Pat Gillick is on the poll Guillermo do you know Pat Gillick is at Levin told McMahon I don't think they know del Harris. In Love I love. Donahue, which was another name that was searching for the time. Excellent was right if it's not going to be Ed McMahon. What else do you want me to go to those stories? I Have I've got Pat Gillick and ED McMahon story. I want more people that you see in a hotel lobby that if you're hammered enough, you might mistake. All right let's think about this. He's gotta be a bit pear shaped. Correct is possible that bill parcells is someone you might mistake for Ed McMahon. Absolutely. Yes. So you guys are telling me that you think it might not have been ed McMahon just somebody who was so quick in their drunken stupor four am. Reacted to my Ed McMahon by shouting though it could be anybody that's slightly overweight with white hair and glasses. That's that's basically Mike Laden. What did you interview Michael Jordan and China now that we're kind of down this path what time? Yeah. Wasn't it actually Michael Jordan you interviewed in China. Part of the last dance or is this before? It was on camera for ESPN. I think somebody would have noticed if I if I had some sort of Michael, fo-, Fo- Jordan egghead of in Bobby cremins. Mike. No Bobby cremins is too thin and he's really a bowl of a bowl of white hair. Bobby cremins is famously white-haired but too thin to wiring. Allow me given name people have heard of it could have been bred musburger. Wow, it's not like. Okay. Again though I mean he's older than Ed McMahon Brent Musburger is older than the late Ed McMahon. It's not Like you. With a hugely modern reference and also Brent Musburger is thin. He's a thin person with black hair. Why What do you want for me? Most Workers Eighty one company is what I want from you. Chris just generally competence can I hear some stories? From Golfing with God, you gotTa have some good stories you and your dad golfing what's to God's? was. You know I was calling short game stews. From one hundred yards in as good There was one God's moment out there where pre round I don't know. Are we allowed to say we were playing for gambling a little bit we're playing to onto my dad for Stugatz, and his friend who was best ball best ball, and before the match started on the putting Green Stugotz throughout an amount he wanted to play for, and then I teed off on the first tee and then miraculously right after that the amount we're playing for was ten percent of what we originally. When you hit three, hundred yard bombs, I mean Jeez so is that what really happened? It was me and my friend versus Chris, you're Dacic tribute nothing I mean absolutely nothing and I got a doozy of a story for when Your Dad comes on tomorrow because I was alerted SPL I'm teasing it right now we will tell this story tomorrow but the car people called me and told me a doozy about your dad when we turned onto the back nine there you know it right? Okay. So we'll we'll. We'll talk about him being cheap it's It's about him being old and senile. But I. Don't think he knows that me Chris my friend know about this. I was tipped by one of the Cork. Guys. We will tell tomorrow and spring it on them because he going be mortified is he going to be mortified? This is a good tease. Greg Cote. He's not in with us today, but he will be in tomorrow. Is he going to be ashamed of this? Yes. Okay. That's a good TV but the point I was thrown around all kinds of dollars on the on the putting green, and then we got out there I e Chris hit what three hundred and fifteen yards I'm not even joking Chris is an amazing Golfer if Chris wasn't held down by his Dad Greg yesterday Chris to what ten under par I that's how good he is it's incredibly was Like fifty and Chris is driving me by seventy yards. Insane wristed God's cheat. was there any time that you felt like he was teeing up the ball in the rough or that he was grabbing a ball that was dropping a ball that wasn't where it was supposed to be. Now, I can't actually say I had found any cheating did yesterday there were a few incidents with my dad making a PUTT and at bouncing out of the cup, their controversies with that yesterday. With. That on. stugatz but the cody still one even with Gregg contributing nothing but we still one. So. That speaks to me you one two holes I accused Christopher Gd. He's taking steroids man. Never see Chris you could be a PGA Tour Golfer. Dan I on man there's is Christ. This moment he beat tiger. Woods. Doing. He can drive as far as tiger woods. I will tell you that right now for the lovers can drive as far. Pga Tournament up on right now. Got He Christie's I. WanNa throw my coffee at drive further zander sharply I am telling you right further than bad drivers on the Gulf on the ski Jay toward Okay but if you worked on your short. Game. When you were younger, you would have had a chance to make it maybe not the PGA tour but tour for certain why why is it? Why is it explain this to me I would I would like Thank you I gathered from all the things that when you said, he could be tiger woods I gathered that he was good. I'll drive tiger woods. Sorry. Excellent. Why is it that you've covered sports for twenty years and you don't have any earthly idea. Any earthly idea? How good these people are even in the sports that you play because these are the listen. These are facts. They are stats right I'm telling you that Chris, cody his average drive yesterday was somewhere around two eighty to ninety with a couple of drives that what north of three hundred I know how far most of these guys drive and I'm telling you Chris's driving it every bit as far but people could do that I have friends you could drive lie PGA tour players it's all a hundred yards in I mean Christmas and very good from there. Me If he if he beats STU gods obviously have to be able to beat tiger woods because to Gaza's great golf too. Don't you get that? That's what's going on. Yes. You have been on fire here. I'm really surprised. I am surprised Chris the Union make it when Stugatz. Facts and stats. I'm surprised you didn't make it fat. I was waiting I was waiting for you. We'll say this I haven't seen Chris in six months he has packed on the Pak owns. I mean I wouldn't be throwing stones and I was looking at is moving better for me. You were telling us you work out every day. This is me and a workout. But you tweet your back I, mean. rougher. Rough on I. AM here for the rare Stugatz Chris back and forth feud. That is something that is a chemistry note that we have not hit around. Where students calls Chris Fat, which is unusual amount the attack of the Oh we don't do a lot of that around here and then the ofr retaliates with. Wouldn't throw scones. Oh. Yeah I should. That's I. Almost didn't post that video me hitting i. feel like so fat. Chris I'm sorry I'm sorry. Are you okay with me call you fat. It was funny man a five thousand coordinator. I didn't even notice I. Don't notice that stuff. With the same as you notice, he says after on air at Christie. Chris kept telling me he was the one telling me again I. Think we should leave all of this in. Kep. Telling me game. I'd never went unnoticed. I'm so insecure I doubt I've been is the first thing I say to people when I meet him fat now. If you were part of the local hour so far by the way was the first segment when Mike. Out of nowhere it was kind of like Tony Brothers. was. I thought that too I thought we were going to Tony. I thought we were going to Tony and then you just said brothers. Up Byu delivering. Cleared out I'm here what you need like Kelly. Delivered Over delivered what you didn't. Can you complain about officiating I'm going to do that I'm going to complain about the -ficiating which I am a heater up three one, it's been bad. Really bad officiating. I don't know how you officiate Yana Saint that the Koumba because that seems very complicated like shack was you have to make the rules up as they go and I'm sure and you have to protect the superstar right? Because he gets he gets a lot of favorable treatment. There have been a couple of games recently where they keep going to review to overturn calls on him because you got to keep them in games. Why do you have a review process if you can't look at a review and say, okay, well it. was out of bounds on Jimmy, but we very clearly miss a foul here because he NBA came out and Said who man sorry we got that one wrong which does nothing except for boost my argument when I complain about it on Sports Radio because that's all that does so I'm glad that I I at least have that but I mean, there's just bad officiating in this series and I didn't really notice it in any of the other series but I guess Jaanus is that complicated to officiate because he we've never seen anything like that before. Gundy can't possibly believe that Adam silver could just get on the phone and call and change a rule at that instant rate because it gets you know what to do he needs to call it needs to say the rules change right now, and that's a foul jeff come on first of all. Adam silver's not watching all these games right? He has to be so overworked that he just goes to sleep and he's like I just need a day. Give me a break a huge pain in my ass I was supposed to be done with this July or June had to reschedule vacation. I don't know when next season's GONNA. Start. I'm not watching Ticky tacky calls at the end of a three Oh series in calling your and change the rules like that. I'll willy nilly. Would've been nine days off if the Miami Heat won that game, which is probably a little bit long. But one thing that I notice after that game watching the rockets and that fourth quarter from Russell Westbrook is remember when everybody wanted Russell Westbrook and it meant losing Mata Bio and tyler hero. He remember that because no one wants to bring back the fact that they were wrong about it. I have several group chats I can go back and get the receipts about. Him Out of bio who the hell is tyler hero you get Russell Westbrook stink have been as good. We are finally seeing We have said for a while that Russell Westbrook was going to age poorly, and he defied us for a long time because you can't keep being the most athletic guy in the league when you're a bad jump shooter and you're in your thirties But now you're beginning to see he has been a historically bad shooter from distant and now you're seeing they're not even guarding him at the end of games they're playing five on four and they're letting him stand in a corner if he wants to. Make a three I wanna come back to Mike's Point though about the officiating I would not want to be an official in any of these games. The athleticism has reached such an extraordinary level where these offensive players can get their shot under all circumstances and are looking for context Jimmy Butler is great on shots that have no interest in going in getting ridiculous fouls by just flailing and bumping into people I would absolutely not want to be trying to officiate these games because these athletes playing at this level and this level of evolution is just crazy. It's just they're unstoppable like there is no way in this next series if Miami. Does indeed get Boston. There is no one who's going to stop Jason Tatum, like maybe again, this way maybe he misses some jump shots, but there's not a way to stop that offensive onslaught I mean he can go five for eighteen that's really the only way But Yeah, look what Brook Lopez does have a legitimate seven footer. That's all of a sudden learn how to shoot threes. It's hard enough close out on him anyways because of his height Oh and now he'll generate an additional foot and a half space because he kicks his leg out every time it goes up her jump shot. I've never seen so many fouls called. On jump shots, why is that? Well, because I've never seen people this size go up for jump shots. They've always been at the rim and these guys are so far away from the rim and they kick their leg out a little bit. Just notice it on super slow motion high def what they're doing to initiate contact. They know how difficult it is officiate and they're absolutely taking advantage of that fact it is difficult. You know what else the referees don't have. You can always fall back on the easy home call and get the crab even if it's a bad call, the wrong call, the homecraft still goes bananas your, life? With. Silence. Make these bad calls and there's nothing but silence and nothing, but for us to do. But be left to our own thoughts and devices thinking about how we could tear these referees Park. They don't even have the thirty thousand fans in the arena who will agree with their lousy calls and that is a lonely field an empty feeling I feel terrible for tonight I. Don't think there's a basketball arena I may be wrong about why I don't. I don't think that there's A. Single Basketball Arena that has thirty thousand people in it I don't think there is I. Think the biggest one might be twenty, seven, twenty I think it's thirty two I will check right? There it is. He's going to look at it but this is what I, wanted to ask you though Mike when you see these guys explain this part to me because it's something I really don't understand. There have been an enormous number of calls at the three point line on three point shots that used to be the exclusive does. Jalen Harden and Gordon Drug, which is pretty good at it too. But James Harden by one hundred would have more fouls on three point shots than anyone. Given the getting out there and putting a hand in someone's face doesn't actually do anything given that in the last game igwe dollar just put his hand right in front of someone's nose Middleton's knows and it didn't matter at all. Why are they even bothering like I'm I'm dead serious about this because the hand in the face doesn't actually bother any of these people I understand your point you obviously have to play defense I'm not saying don't play defense I'm saying jumping into a guy what's the point once he said like that that was a bad foul on Brook Lopez whether he's kicking his leg out or not. You can't Brook Lopez's was stepping back for a two. Pointer on the three point line that was terrible fouled by Bam. Yeah. I mean Gorens been caught up in the air a couple of times I. Really don't know how you avoid it because they're not leaning into players right Middleton get someone to bite on the pump fake and they're up in the air and they're just doing like the Roy. Hibbert thing verticality I'm going straight up and down. But when you're so long you can initiate contact by just moving a slight inch and to the referee it looks like it alters the shot which may help explain the reason why we've seen so many jump alcohol's jump shot alcohols in this series because you have so many lanky shooters. Can we get rid of the two minute report I'm done with it. Okay. Like I don't want to see the Jimmy should have gone to the line after the father wasn't called. There was obviously a foul like I. Don't need you to tell me after the fact Oh. You know what the game completely changed right there. Let's get rid of it like I don't WanNa. Hear it anymore done. Isn't that a transparency that was brought on by the Donigi stuff the. isn't that when they decided to do that no when they decided to do it but it probably because of that and all the other scandals regarding officiating, it gives you transparency doesn't change anything doesn't change anything accountability is probably something that might help prevent it from happening in the future but we see all these things and you can't really do anything with it outside of just boost your argument after the fact twenty, thousand, nine, hundred, and seventeen at the united. Center. CHICAGO. That's the largest twenty, one dollars a pack it in Zach Levine. We were both. Both. How are you making me thirty two thousand of these at twenty seven, my roth the largest had been like at most twenty seven. So I guess if you if you need someone there. But, if we're playing basketball, you lose I was loud wrong. But it's also you're only playoff take. Like, it's unbelievable. How many times you preheated and recycled that particular take. Listen. You've been doing this. You've said since before this started you said I'm not interested in whoever is the champion anymore then you said I'm going to keep an eye on the bubble, and since saying you're going to keep an eye on the bubble. All you've done ripped that there are no fans in the bubble and I think it's simply because you're not watching the games, your not interested in the. Game and therefore, shall we test them on yesterday's games? Mike was he golfing has already admitted? He was golfing during yes. I need to be a charge call at I need like twenty, thousand, nine, hundred and seventeen fads booing or cheering that call. It's not the same without fans of sorry I'm drying up trying to get into this but I need fan reaction I really do I'm concerned about the football season? Originally take is built on a faulty premise to because Tony Brothers actually more likely to make the call that he did if it were an arena full of he'd fans fact that there aren't an arena full that there aren't fans there means there is less in it. There's less skin in the game for Tony Brothers. How does he get off on this? He will he lives. To be an agitated and Piss people off without an arena full of white hockey fans of he's bombed. How many people listening to this noticed how poorly brothers his head was painted because he got the Beijing I wasn't as bad as Carlos boozer that one time Carlos boozer basic shoe polish his head and couldn't get it out in the shower for about ten days. It wasn't that bad but how many people noticed that Tony Brothers a little too old to have that perfect hairline and it was clearly painted with some sort of asphalt. This is the Beijing controversy that the NBA does not want you to hear about right here. Tony Brothers is fake as hair number one most aggressive eyebrows I've ever seen from Tony Brothers and all of a sudden wait your your your facial hair and your eyebrows or salt and pepper, but up top were jet black in a way. That we've never been come on Tony. The thing of his eyebrows is, what makes me believe that his hair is real I think that that's his hair it maybe a little darker than it would be naturally, but I don't think that there's fake hair going on there by the way. Have you guys seen Lebron pictures? The bubble is not doing Lebron. Good job. He here's the thing about tall people like Lebron, right in every circumstance except being on national television. No one's GonNa see the of his head after. He just walks around and he says, hi to people any take. Not, walking around saying hi to people because you can't within twenty feet of broad but in this fantasy scenario where lebrons just walking around shaking hands and kissing babies again well, not shaking kissing babies now because there's you can't be doing that. But in you know what I'm saying poured scenario, right? Most people are looking at the top of Lebron James's head with these overhead camera angles and all these lights are really not helping him out whatsoever. By the way NBA people. If you can put all of those faked light, glow goes on the court, someone should be in charge of putting here on the bronze head, right? Around. The top of his head covered. So you don't see the light flashing off because there's something really embarrassing angles that they've been showing. Shane is there anyone anyone not just sports but anyone who has grappled with hair issues for longer more publicly than Lebron James? I know. The only one. Yeah. Joe Buck who admitted to an addiction to the diction the hair plugs I don't feel like people if he was killed them, I think it almost ended his broadcast career because they put him under and he had a really bad response to the anesthesia. We almost lost Joe Buck due to his addiction with hair plug. But would have even known that he was hair plugging. If he hadn't told us would we have known for sure like Tom Brady of known about Joe Buck come on Man When I have known about Joe I'd say blacks mean look at him. Of course, everyone knew about Joe Buck I know. I thought he looked good. I mean a flowing wave of hair of. UNUSED, but he was always the the wonder kid like he was the always the young person. So I I was think of Joe Buck as a young person with ongoing waves of wants you to think is making like Fabio. Because he was so young as a broadcaster, the guy was broadcasting like the major events under twenty five years old I think watch sporting events differently because I'm obsessed with this because I guess I see my own deficiencies in this department. So I obsess over other people's but it's one I pay attention to the game and the second storyline for in every athletic competition that I ever see or just award show doesn't matter. I'm constant constantly looking at people's Air I'm obsessed with it. How how was the Wayne Rooney situation as our international soccer course but he handled it the best because he was just like straight up. Hey, I'm on my way to get my hair transplant. That's what you gotta do it better than Urlacher yet I Leaned into a two that's what you gotta do it right now in these as because you don't want people making fun of you for going on the side thing and people won't notice like Tony Brothers I mean come on. Tony Brothers. But yeah, if you're honest about it, I, think it makes all the difference in the world. Joe Buck, and get away with it. The right like look at your bucks, Hair, right? Would you say like this is someone that's wanted to pay like tens of thousands of dollars to get his hair to look like that like it just looks like here. Right? It's not like over the top you. So I was like kind of a forehead right? It's way down like you still see some anthrax there. It looks like he's done some correcting like over-correction where it's like, yeah. That looks like a man like mid fifties. What is here would look like which leads me to my next topic Erik Spoelstra. PD's have you seen him bobble they hairs in better I. Don't know if it's because he's not wearing a suit any more and he's not getting a sweaty because then when the perspiration starts, the hair starts looking a thinner but the bubbles been very kind air exposures, hairline. Billy. What is the direct translation in English of anthrax us because it was the perfect word to use there but I don't know what the English word is for for that for our audience I always love when you go Spanish but I want to include people instead of excluding them and throw those I. Don't know what the English is anyone here my father my mother still makes fun of my father because he tried to be a professional translator for awhile and he was terrible at it and he sat in A. Courtroom one time and he just there's testimony that my father was screwing up because he was just not very good at direct translations on things and I don't know the direct translation for an rather I can say with a lot of words but not one or two words basically have some recession in your hair you have You know your hair is retreating but I don't know what in Tho those is in English. Do you billy I mean directly rather translate to and Trotta right and it just you know it's Rather is entrances. What you said, of Joe Bucks Harrison got. His hair like I. It's the correct word but I don't think entrances is what we would describe an English as Joe Bucks got entrances in his hair. People know they know we're talking about by the way in terms of performance enhancing drugs I don't know if. We probably shouldn't be talking about this right but Yusup professional athletes largely are using PD's rate at some level rate. We can all agree that there's people trying to skirt the rules in use P. D.'s athlete and SPA. Yeah Do. You think that Blake have you think they're getting them into the bubble do you think they just stopped taking steroids while they're in the bubble or do you think that there is still away they're sneaking NPD's to the bubble. You don't think that that is part of whatever it is. The training regimen is with some people like that. You have. You've got all sorts of family members in the bubble didn't the I. Think the drug policy got a lot more lax within the bubble that was part of what was collectively bargain I think was it the marijuana policy? Have using. You're the one that said you went through like all the protocols was there like a huge of it that was on the more lax drug rules I I just saw marijuana stuff billy you making the bubble the bubble seems like prison. Now where it seems people, they're sneaky them in on the table I mean. Steve. Mickey like ice cream sandwiches. Whatever I feel like billy has them going through like airport check in before getting into the bubble look I. Maybe he's right though I mean very difficult to keyser way protein I love stugatz is jail scenario where here or four Marlboros can I have some testosterone pleased in exchange for? Back? Cigarettes Limited Edition Goofy Pin. Vehicle. That's definitely the Lopez brothers. Right that are making all those traits, Lopez, brothers. 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SAMMY AIN'T SEEN SHIT: WAYNE'S WORLD RETRO MOVIE REVIEW

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SAMMY AIN'T SEEN SHIT: WAYNE'S WORLD RETRO MOVIE REVIEW

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We're going to start the sole takeover. How? Fuck where do I start with this? Where do you start and booking me and ramps? If you can't just do the whole song. I'd only know when it was using the suicide squad trailer. So I don't know. So. What are we? Start for for bleeding. No hold on. Do do do do got it. I see two silhouette. Who's got up? Undone. I'm just a poor. Boy, nobody loves me. Lyrics. What are you doing? I don't know music. I'm sending it's all is. You know, I want to be saving solid anymore. Join me on the other side juice her. I don't even know who he is anymore. I just fucking. Fucking show the other ensure that we did probably better. Sorry, guys. Fuck was are you the dog from wacky races? That was. Weird. Ultimate maniacal guy left. Standing solace here for double tos dot com. Jordan, juicers. Happy day. We are talking about in honor of bohemian rhapsody the song that everybody knows everybody knows every lyric to everybody. They just a song. Everybody knows bohemian rhapsody and the queen's, Freddie, Mercury bio-pic. We are doing we're gonna do some other shit. But we was like, no, I'm tired, and I wanted to movie, but so let's go into a movie with that song in it Wayne's world from nineteen ninety two. But before we get all of that, and our botched intros, we gotta talk about some other stuff because there is a lot of housekeeping, we need to do before these. Okay. So much housekeeping to one let the people know wherever at what we're doing keep them up to date because the halloween's attacking the savings weekend is over it's over. So we got nothing who ate nothing to do any more. These guys are not those guys, but these guys over here kind of straggling gentleman what they're doing here. But they're here for a good time, but all sorts of housekeeping, and housekeeping you like to talk about. Are the ones that aren't these people because these guys are cool. Hey, Danny's with them. You know that you could trust them eat Denny's with. Yeah. I mean, that's an embarrassing thing to do. With friends let alone with strangers actually in the morning. Fucking six years now. Right. Wow. Yeah. Cody I met him in San Diego and met Corey for the first time that same mile outside of San Diego. Comecon? Nice. And so I've seen this guy in and out of places for the longest time. So fucking spill double toasted family lawyer. It's forever. So blood owes. I know these folks, I know all these people over there. But you know, what I don't know. There's people out there keyboards. I mean, they they were here few minutes ago. But now they're out there in the keyboards. Now, they're all anonymous. Strange scary guy about baby lotion and ship. He's part of some sort of baby lotion capable is some sort of weird thing it he's and he's talking there. We're talking about of course, no one. The only the shot at sad said. Oh, Michael Myers cat in the hat. Oh my God. I was about the whole creature that early Christmas shit. I'm I'm sorry. But we might be doing some Christmas of as soon as hey, why you dressed up as Malcolm X, no black phase. So he just looks like what's his name? That'd be fair. Mathematics did have red hair didn't have radio. Kinda part of it. Right. Woody Allen not even a costume at the same suits that. He's got like half of it at least right half. But he did the right thing interest in black. Thanks. So I mean, okay, it's okay. Right. Okay. In the loosest sense of the word. I guess, but you know, what we have all that stuff. What why bother because his? Con favor. I dunno. Cody don't ask me these questions. I don't know. God damn it. Now, I should go as Mexican, Freddie. Mercury. That'd be great. Mercury. They have to shave your beard that you got the mustache. We've got beard shaven this shit. The cork right here. I'm going to do. No, no shave November. Just sad. Laziness, I think just because I was like already started awesome. Nick shit. Aw shit. I didn't even notice until you showed it, right? So I love this beard is a lot less maintenance for the. You know, what's nothing about my face. What about my body? Let's talk about my body. I have some stuff that iced. I stuff. This is. This is nice stuff. This stuff that I'm wearing. But what I'll be honest. It's not quite as nice as some of that could fetch DT Merce dot com. Oh my God. Got a backpack. We've got children's shirts because children are allowed to watch. Double toasted sweaters polo shirt with like half, the people don't exist anymore. And then we have the venom sim by shirt on the baseball team the tank tops. Oh, and you can get yourself a nice beanie for twenty six ninety nine. Look at that whole outside this baby is cold outside. We're not going to do any of the crazy rape south stuff in that. That is a rape. He song courting song. But some people just like not gonna leave the more DRAM consenting to the talk that's happening in relation to the gas station. They're having update, but there's some, you know, some persuasion persuasion, and it's playful persuasion, they're both consenting to the awfully odd. Crosby. That's things that song for beaten women. Listen to the bean Crosby version, I listened to the Ricardo Montalban because tina's things it's a lot more suave suave nece across feels Bill. Cosby that saying it as opposed to being Crosby as I ten. Child gold. John come on. Bops in. That's not even laugh, but this is the first time we've gone off the rails in a while. I think it's going to be we need to for this for this one. Because this is funny. That is funny. I saw Larry jokes jokes jokes spaghetti. But before we get to the jokes spaghetti and all that stuff. We have the talk about how they can get a hold of us because there's people here that income. Visit us all the time. Suspensive a lot of money to do that. Got hotels hostels, you got lots. You can buy you can do all this to get down here. It's just too much sometimes, but you know, what you can always join us on them worldwide inmates come on down a double toasted sixty nine month. But if you can't afford all that if you just want to talk to us, and this is just the free on soundcloud. You can come on down the way you come on down is by allowing me to press his button and pressing the button, and then telling you k- kumons at that's Casey, EMMY, Zia Jimoh, confident questions compliments, insert insults. Input and advice. There. He does the money's grand at double does advan tag us and all your DT merchant all your fan arts. We're gonna have a new website within the next two weeks. Be sure you get your fan out ready because it's time to shine. We will have all that stuff. 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No, you have husky left. A third of a husky laugh is fat. That is a weird lease. His you like to know, why can have temperatures changing, man. Oh, speak through my nose as every buffalo. Nian? Does you're like goddamn penguin from toy stories that guy we do. We do. You're the one that was talking about how Texans complain about the slightest weather change, Mr. Buffalo, New York. Plane shorts. The golden mushroom parts, you know, because I'm from New York, you know, before we for that's like New York east. I'm from western New York. It's a different accent is a western part of New York. Yes. It's just the city just the city. Stay. Okay. Forget it. No. It's it's the five fold the Bronx, New Jersey city. It's a state forget it forget it for them. But no when it gets cold. My nasal cavities change. A little more. We during the cold weather. I'm not complain about it because that's my voice. So you should listen to little Wayne. And then you'll sing just like in August. Okay. Cool. But we're not talking about little when we're talking about Wayne's world, which is a nineteen ninety two American comedy film. We're Wayne Campbell and Garth elgar. A pair of rock fans broadcast the public access television show, get sponsor and get sponsored by a major television network. Very simple premise, very simple concept not much to it. But you know, what? It's from alumni of Saturday Night Live Michael Myers or Mike Myers. I forget Mike Myers. Dana car. The one that's not a serial killer. So this is the as you may know, the highest grossing SNL sketches of all time eight over one hundred million dollars, but the person who's in charge of this. I said, you know, what I don't know who the director of this is I was like, okay, nobody important. I don't know what I'm going to talk about this person. Look it up. Look it up. Look it up. I got Penelope's fierce, and I'm like Penelope's fears is that to me. But then I read her filmography of all like Sam Raisman seen should've Sam Remy other than spider, man. I haven't seen the none of Spielberg. I didn't see none of these major but of her films. I've seen like the ones that were noting. I've seen and love two of them like repeat and curious as movie, so obviously we're talking about Penelope spheres who did a documentary called the decline of western civilization. The trilogy of those. She did the Beverly hill. Billy's movie in the nineties. Okay. But as you may see right there with that dog. I know she also did the little rascals in black sheep with Chris Farley. Oh, those two movies were literally the my child. Did they go Sammy? What did you watch the whole time? It was Tommy boy, black sheep and little rascals. That's why I watched on a loop. No, no, Tommy, boy, I thought it was funny. You said black. She was like, oh what the lesser Tommy boy. No, no. It's it's funny. But it's not as good as me a little rascals is fine. But like years it is like this lady. She apparently I was looking at her. Tons like a big filmography. Yeah. But she does like documentary like serious filmmaking, and the reason, and we'll bring it us up as we go in this movie. The reason why they brought her in who's because one she was cheap and to. On budget, and she stayed on tie. That's like that was like her claim to fame where she was just like, you know, what? None of this bullshit. We're getting this done. They shut this movie like three or four days. I believe was pretty pretty quick it was shipped for this lady. And she was like, you know, what I'm not having any of this. We'll give it to how that got some of the sees that we have now and how those things work. They were so well because you're considered was actually a little bit of direction going on. But if you don't know Wayne's world is we'll talk about what they were in a bid. But all I really knew of this movie was that we had the VHS when I was a kid and this was same headed to. I went to the library my family. That's where we went to movies from his Highbury, of course. And. For video. We got them for free from the library, shoe smart. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. We are going thing going. That's why I want you stole it from the library. Dammit. You're right because you also get books in the library. You kids know that back in the day. But yeah, that's that's where we I rented that and the blues billers actually both on VHS in. I remember watching double feature films. But I I I watch when I was twelve and I remember nothing about it. Like nothing stayed with me. And after watching this. There's a reason why. Stuck with me after watching that when I was twelve well for me. So I had to do the math. So if we own this movie came out in ninety two if I owned the VHS that was at least a year later because there's a lot more delayed back then. So I must have seen this movie. Probably when I was three or four years old because I remember having seen it. I remember knowing like looking at the box because the box is just kind of goofy. Look in the back ahead. What's her name? Tina Carreira in that red dress on the back of the VHS. I like pretty girls because my brain she didn't know what that meant. But I was just kept looking at it. And so I was like I remember being that young at least four years old knowing I'd already seen this movie. But I didn't remember anything from it. And so then throughout my life was like, you know, what I don't know anything about this movie other than what society tells me your reminds with this movie. And so the other thing that I had to remind myself of this is the one thing I didn't I didn't know about it. But had never experienced. I actually did my easiest slightest a little bit of homework, and that was actually looking at. One of the sketches of Wayne's world world. I'm your excellent host wing Cam. While with MS always is car forty ad weight party on car. Okay. We have an excellent excellent capped off by even better Halloween girlfriend Cassandra when as a brick and I went as a bricklayer. I I I wind is Barney the purple dinosaur. Get my ass kicked. And. Saying it's very ninety very sketch based now now I'm gonna date myself a little bit. I mean, you are fifty years old. No. But like I'm gonna make myself seeing younger for people who like recognize remember, very, well, I just super young in some regards because like I watched a show called the Amanda show with Amanda by do you remember that you remember there has been this? Wow. Do you? Remember the section totally Kyle with Drake. And Josh with Drake bell. Yeah. I do. Yeah. So, but so Drake bell before he was areas before he was on drinking judge. He did a sketch called totally Kyle which uses essentially playing a combination of these two characters giving out advice. And I was like oh that oh that's still that's still from that. It's over here thinking like, oh, this is like a proto totally Kyle. It's like the dumbest shit like the dumbest thing about because. Because like I wonder if anybody remembers I'm gonna pull the chat. I've gotten up there. Oh, you wanna see totally Kyle? I do because I love the abide show. Did you? I mean, it was a pretty late ninety thousand my generation pretty is a pretty solid show. Our lives. Our lives in the vein of all at the time. But. Oh, man. I wonder if this is going to sound good. I don't know what this clip is. It's fine. Fuck it. I like could find the cordless phone. Mom, where's the cordless phone? Like. And then like the cordless phone started ringing and ringing. Looked under my pillow and like I never found. The set of of just nonsense and being stoned out rocker, whatever there is a little bit of semblance of that. Some of your the okay, I have somewhat of a weird work around. Familiarity with Wayne's world in weird way. That's funny and the funniest thing about shit up. The review the second. Sorry. But the thing about it makes me laugh, the most is the fact that like. What the premise of the movie is guys on public access television beyond just for a guy who's literally got famous doing public access television. But the fact that I've done it as well ship there because I was like I need some sort of experience. Exactly what happens. So I kind of having idea of how it works watching this. And then being a part of essentially what the new we'll talk about a bit with the new public access is the internet. It's just kind of funny thing to comment on so with that said, let's go and take a look at nineteen ninety two's the trailer Ford twos. Wayne's world. I fucked fucking song. Don't side. Broadcast. I want you to find out who these guys are whether either show what is Mr. banded hawk business. Your audience two chimps on a damn important patient. The contract for five thousand dollars. When I'm in my carbohydrates sequined jumpsuit, young white cotton panties bloated, purple dead on a toilet face to fortunate contractor. No, I will not bow any. Kevin. Sleep to every time. You see this one incredible woman think you're gonna. You think you're gonna hurl? I say blow chunks and she comes back. She's yours. Okay. This is definitely the type of place. I'm going to move into my parents. President ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Just might be the greatest. Are you? Wains. Hilarity comedy funnies. City. Yeah. The sun. Everybody knows. It's so good to do this who head. My head. Listeners are loving this. Yeah. It's so good to silence. Brings jiggles our cranium there. Your cloud. Okay. Now, I'm a little dizzy come back. So an honor. I'm really, I'm dizzy. Yeah. You got doing it? Start your hands. Ground feet grounded. He's got the guys I'm back and so in honor of bohemian rhapsody bio pic coming out from clean. Something that we were going to probably do a series about for like, honestly, like I mentioned before probably going to do something. Good like walk the line or walk hard or something. I gotta boat pick. I'm sorry. Okay. So this is great. You'll behind the scenes here. Sammy text me other day yesterday. Yes yesterday, it was doing and I'm like, I thought we'd do a walk the lies like, yeah. It's a little long. Okay. Okay. What do you want to do? Like like. Sure, fine me. Well, I already watched walked by them as bio pic, but walking Phoenix performances tastic, Johnny cash. Great review will be a lot of fun. And there's like, let's do Wayne's. Okay. So I spent my God damn Halloween watching this movie, Kathy too. Really good. Oh my God. Come on man tire. Isn't that line from? What is the man? Pile of secrets right secret was fucking tired. And I want to do shorter movie. But at the same time. Bohemian rhapsody. Yes. And Queen in general, this movie is one is this movie, but sued they kind of kind of revealed that that the the new movie that came out kind of sucks like it's kind of nice. I kind of okay, I've seen it. So I don't know either. But that's what that's what the kind of the word is out mixed reviews extre views making fun of his teeth and all this stuff. So essentially, I was like, well, we can do something serious organ. Do something kind of funny. Okay. Then I thought. Bohemian rhapsody Queen song and Highlander. I don't know. I think that was something that somebody put out there, and we're not gonna do. But at the same time, we said, you know, what? Let's actually take on the movie that was responsible for Queen to have its resurgence here. Sure. Yeah. I talked to Martin about this that actually makes more sense than the other one because this movie essentially reboosted Queen. We'll get to that scene or two because at this point we got a continue to the beginning of this movie, which is like what we had fun yesterday with Halloween, right? We had fun all the costumes all the things that I didn't partake watching this movie too. But the biggest thing was that if you were gone, I know you guys went out there right around the fray, let me ask you this question. Did you see at least one pair of Wayne and Garth out there? Oh, you don't all these shit. It's not the nineteen ninety s anymore. But here's the thing. If the lazy costume that people love doing their, yes, it's a super popular costume do. Easy. People. Have a plaid shirt. People have a black t-shirt shirt blue jeans, and then I'll get by the hat and gives them fake glasses and a wig. And they're all said people now are like forty or fifty years old. They're not going to dress up anymore. They got kids at their own kids up as Wayne and Garth. They did I've seen them on the internet very done little they've done it. And the thing was is that, but I've seen that so many times throughout the course of my life. And I'm thinking like for eighteen year olds eighteen year old does because if I were to do that at the age of eighteen ten years ago, I would be doing like blade runner like that would be how long ago it was from the time. I was born that'd be doing con- from Rathikant or like who's a character from fast times ridgemont, high was Sean Penn cozy. Scully's stability goalie. I'd be doing that guy. So the fact that like as a movie it's not really too remembered, but these characters and some of the lines of the things. Pop culture site, guys. Right. But it is fascinating. Because like nobody really talks about like, oh, Wayne's world such a great movie. But they remember all those things some people even still quote it, and he mean rhapsody they still associate those two things in the head. Banging all together the scenes, right? So to start about like other than what the song is just that part. We got an Wayne world's all about like, I said I had never seen SNL sketch of Wayne's world. Only knew it as a movie growing must so shut up. A minute. But for those of us who didn't see those SNL sketches for future audiences that wouldn't have a chance to check it established. What Wayne's world is to everybody? Extreme clubs up. What exactly is a suck? The studt is a revolution in home haircut. It certainly does suck. Wayne's world these guys they do the show of their basement listen to channel. I want you to find out who these guys are where they do their show. Think we've found something that we can sell the Vander. Okay, forest force with Heather Locklear, very warm. Very warm. These guys are so funny. Oh, they're obviously. Knows you on Holloway night. Watching this movie you had a hot redhead. He's watching Wayne's world. And that was that was Chris last night. But that's the thing. That's pretty interesting. It's own right to watch. What does the sensually? We talked about proto totally Kyle proto. Youtube essentially. Other than like ham radios people having their own ability to communicate with each other really had access to television other than what forgot what there was a piece of legislation that was passed funded PBS. But it also said that each neighbor each station had to have some sort of public access television or the community made the television for the local. And so with big cities like Chicago LA, I believe New York, they had a real big public access push. What have shows like this? But it would be limited to the late night ones for something. Like this a lot of times. It was just like old people sewing sweaters, some boring shit. But late at night, you might get a cause I wanna do a TV show just like Wayne right here. And they would be like, yeah. Sure. It's after eleven you can say all these bad words, do all these things I worked in public access. It was the same thing over guys. I think what they did. But they would do like these drinking games, essentially, they would just drink in the studio. It was the most haphazard shit ever. But that's the thing when you. Watch this story. Would you watch the story in the context of okay public access you to whole kind of building those coinciding thing together you can't help? But think that this is kind of like the Coleman story where you have a guy sure in the nineties at a public access TV show where he runs everything he has friends a part of and it was like a local legend because apparently even to this day at the beginning of of the weekend last, we have some guy came up to a did, you do public access, and he was a guy who'd been awesome for twenty some odd years we recognize them. So there's a lot of parallels that will see from our boss Corey and this movie, which is what I like to bring up, but it doesn't just stop it. Oh, they made public access guys in the night. There's some of the things there, but even twenty six years later from the from when this movie was released, it's actually pretty understandable. How the whole world operates like you have some friends dick around in front of a camera. You put it out there for people to enjoy. Some people may watch some people you're not making a lot. Of money doing it. But you know, what I am I head you put a different skin on this premise of a guy who has a show, and then it gets bought out by major corporation. Sure. And you have sunny that could be made for for whatever post millennials are what are the younger kids. The ones that watch like fucking Pudi pie shit gen Z generation Zeleny oils. Yeah. Whatever the the non millennial millennials little little kids like you can switch this up. And I'm not going to say do it. But you could reboot this with the same story with the same kind of concept, and it'd be the same drown. If anything. Yeah. Totally startup that thing, but then falls apart and everything then you have some internal county. Drum. I would love it. That'd be great. And it probably be funnier than this. Oh, my. Comedy, though Palmer at now is the fact that this concept just the public thing. It's a little bit of head of its time considering that even now another thing they do this movie, which I know is not originals by by a long shot only move to have done this. But breaking the fourth wall starting to become more and more popular again because obviously you had in the eighties and other movies that did it. This is not the first one. But this is one where he's consistently dressing the camera. The camera is almost another character in the movie. So when they're doing things like that. It's like, you know, what that is kind of interesting that it's holding up in weird ways. Even as far as trends, go considering that everything else in this movie is very nineties understand that. But when you you know, when you watch this movie, and you know, all the graffiti, and this you forget a lot of those little things like the camera tricks like the other characters in how the interact with this kind of pseudo TV behind the scenes almost like office style Cam. So before we get to that I kind of scene we'd get a set of how this cameras going to operate throughout the movie up to speed. Wayne campbell. In Illinois still live with my parents, which I been both bogus and say, but at least I've gotten amazing cable access show. But I still know how to party I'd really love is to do for living. The might happen show might flatter. My butt. Best friend gore failed car. Hi. The little bohemian rhapsody, gentlemen. Good. Call. What are you doing here partied out, man? Again, would if honks in the car giving you a no honk guarantee. Chris. Makita story. Months manager Glenn twenty four hours a day. I recommend the sugar pucks. Why is it? If a man kills another man in bad. Let's call roic kills a man in the heat of passion. It's called murder. What do you think you're doing girth? Get to talk to the camera. Happy anniversary way, we broke up two months ago. That doesn't mean we can't still go out. Does actually breaking up is what am I gonna do with the gun? Mike. I'm. Wayne, if you're not careful, you're going to lose me. Two months ago. Are you mental we broke up the net. Totally radical, bro. Actually, look of exasperation. It's his first movie. Not not blame like this. But. Love grew territory. Learn at this point, but but here's the thing with the bohemian rhapsody thing, there was a huge battle behind the scenes about it. Do you know about though, I know he he Mike Myers. Threatened to quit the movie they didn't put the sawn. Oh my God. I'm sorry. I was going to put Billy Mays was the guitarist for Brian May's ox, right? Brian me, Oxy clink commercially. Oh, Billy Mays. Actually, clean it. The right off that's caused me. Again. The fuck is wrong accents, go to Brian May oh about movies. Billy Mays talking about quitting movie shit continue it then because you don't know we're talking about what we're talking about. Is the fact that he? Bohemian rhapsody was literally a breaking point for this move. Bohemian rhapsody was was called Wayne's world. Because there's articles about how he was like I want this song. Yes. In the movie, and this is the first movie mind, you like I mentioned, and he was like I want the song in the movie or I fucking walk. We're like I really want to have a pop a pop song opulent song in this movie. They wanted guns and roses or something right guns and roses song charting. I would say at this point in nineteen Ninety-one. But here's the thing about guns and roses roses, one song that they have. Welcome to the jungle. When was that released nineteen eighty seven seven one whatever song that was number one on the charts. Don't know what it is. No one knows what it is. So he was like I want this song or I wash because apparently Mike Myers in his own life is a huge Queen fan to begin with the Queen history the ninety s Queen now, but before then they had fallen out of favor on the US super popular in Europe. But after you know. Live eight it was like last big thing which was eighty nine or something like that. They were like, okay. Cool. Guys are awesome. Whatever guns roses. All this. Other grunge stuff was to kick up a little bit. You know? And so he took it a step further. Look either Walker have the capable just fucking record it trice they recorded that scene, and they go. All right. Let me get on say I'm gonna send this ab- Ryan says the Billy Mays. Act your what do I want? But then Brian got a hold of it. And he watched the he'd liked it. So he showed it to, Freddie. Mercury, freddie. Mercury was dying. He was living dying. And he was like let me watch this put it in. And apparently, Freddie Mercury was just cracking up at the seat he'd loved it. And so as article from guitar world dot com. Brian May Wayne's world Ramsey seen hit close to home. So essentially, the reason why they liked it so much in the enjoyed it was that when they would hear bohemian rhapsody. Yeah. On the radio, they would head, you know. Not head rock head bang. Bank and laugh along with like the movie so that like somehow just hit this like weird cord, and they're like, oh, hell, yeah. You could use this. And then he died before the movie came out. On his deathbed was like I like that. And then died died, and then Wayne's world, this is lasting legacy. He's nothing more than last longer than ways. God. Dang, freddie. Mercury. But that was the crazy thing that scene in that moment that whole putting into tape and rocking out to the whole scene was what brought them back and it hasn't stopped since ninety two people sing the song every day karaoke. This is closing song for a lot of different bars and stuff like this scene, and they think of this scene and so that brought him back from the edge. So if you'd think you like Queen or if you think, oh, rob see that's just totally off their own merits because a stadium songs that they made. No, it's probably because of this movie bringing it back into American popularity and then somehow staying because of how great it it. It's a great scene for that repopulate is Queen bohemian rhapsody. But the thing is there's a whole other like ninety plus this movie surrounding that one moment, and that's my biggest problem with talking about. You don't wanna see guy who's way too drunk all the time. Oh, it's so it has a problem with drinking. He's he's so. Fucking crackhead. Yeah. You're on crack, you're on crack. To lose the habit. Because like this is before they went to the bar that they were going to go. He's already drunk. Yeah, cog. Oh, so yeah. He's already fucked up. But essentially what the movie is other than that seen. This is Wayne and Garth going around town just being to buddies check out Chicago associated to the characters that are coming around people that are going to come in and out of the movie play different roles at some point. That's the one thing I will say about this movie their characters introduced randomly, the all sort of play a role. Nobody's ever really wasted and nobody's ever unnecessary. There are some people that are in there too like poorly deliver stilted dialogue. Right. But then you get like one bright moment like Ed O'Neill as the fucking murderous diner. Owner. What'd you think? He sells neely's talented right doing. And so at the end up doing at the end of that scene, a rock club where Garth does the most gangster shit I've ever seen because in this moment right here. He gets beat the fuck up by this big giant, Andre the giant lookin' motherfucker, and that would be fine. But then he does the most to the truck of his car to pervert, you'll get essentially a giant tasers, and it comes back, and he just tasers the shit out of this dude, that's in the movie. And then while that's happening. Wayne is falling in love with what's her name Cassandra. He's very hot and very beautiful very saying. Like for you or for Wayne. No, I'm saying, she's she's very beautiful attract. Absolutely. That was one thing where. Dan movie. Looking at the whole time. Do it swing. Wow. That was fun. Do it. Voter already. Excuse middle school as well. Just the way my jeans or poking out, really. I'm in middle school. But that's the thing. So you have him falling love with the beautiful rocker. She's bass guitar is. She's an incredible singer. I don't know singing. But it's pretty amazing to believe it is I like to believe it is to just for the sake of my own heart. But there's two things that come with that scene. Just inherently is the fact that one this movie is pretty silly and two girls pretty much dead. Like as a concept like if you watch rock and roll now, try to listen to it. It's dead. So watching these guys like go to rock clubs. Nobody's doing that anymore. They're going to see musicians are going to see different artists. But no one's going to see a rock and roll show. Those like they were showing right there. And like, I think about it. I was like I can't even find a rock and roll station here in Austin that plays just regular rock and roll. And my thing is like if people are still listening to Lincoln park in green day, even today roll is dead. And I defy somebody to be like, oh, great has been around forever, though. Name me a rock band. True rock band. I Alba twenty fourteen or later it's four years. Gimme a new rock band list. You'll be like, yeah. This is like good, old fashioned rock and roll. This is some interesting shit. I can't because I I don't know. Heads. No rock and roll classic metal the fuck nobody listens to it anymore. And so watching a home movie where you have these guys kind of just like talking about this old dying specific John reviews. And then you have them doing all this other crazy public access bullshit. It's kind of like all dated, and then you get so you had the day the concept of a metal head. And then you get other weird moments like this. Do you have any great? And that's my biggest problem with this film is that these are just gets like ninety seconds. Sixty seconds skits that you would find now like it's funny because they're doing a reference to the grey Poupon commercial. It's waning Garth right now, and it sixty seconds, and they move onto the next, and that's probably this film. It's random sees. Yeah. They have a central narrative for the most part until towards the end like fucking cares. And that point, and that's my problem with the film is just like we're going to do the skits references to commercials, which I forgot that. There's a lot of stuff like we just need to make our budget back. We got like just you know, reference or advertise possibly can. Right. So all these like like, wink it. Yeah. But you just doing so much is really funny anymore. Okay. But that's also at this point. It's twenty minutes. But even then I want to get to that point later because now it's me later. No matter what. It has two point. We'll get to that for me. So we could talk about that a little bit more. But I needed to even stop you even one step before that you're what twenty five years old twenty seven twenty seven, okay? But anyway, twenty seven I'm twenty eight you guys are what twenty eight so on our late twenties. And we barely get this reference. Like, we barely understand just here's the thing. What kid younger soul understands that? This is from old timey fucking Dijon mustard commercial. Would you have any grey phone? Call. The commercials. Yeah. Get your fucking. Fucking plead. Weird thing. It's like people they showed a couple of commercials in the beginning like pets. Whatever showed that commercial. We have a fucking reference point. Because if you haven't seen that one specific commercial series of commercials, which I somehow happened upon. I don't know. It was like travel channel Discovery Channel fuck in. It was a whole episode. Great awesome. It essentially what the concept was was that. How do we make this fucking regular Condit seem fancy? So they had this whole concept of only rich people ask for great Bon actually eighties anyway. Okay. So they had this whole concept of people. People who fucking eat grape pond are people in Bentleys and that apparently eat with four in there fucking car. Like, it's so specific some of these things are so specific in this movie. It's like damn it's hard to laugh or understand it if you were alive at the time, that's a hard thing about comedies is that to make them time you have to have certain concepts or context to the jokes. And this has no context remember the nineties. That's the big problem. It's referencing stuff that people like probably will. No, it does not look back comedies that stick around forever. I think will always be like in the cultural zeitgeist except for Mel Brooks still fighting to this day 'cause referencing stuff that's still happening, right or stuff that was socially relevant. Yeah. That was a big cultural thing like, you know, segregation racism around. It's always gonna come back around or Edgar right hot fuzz, or like, it's referencing us specific John movies, mocking. It's always. Going to be there. Getting mad and the chat y'all are too young the commercials on all the time. Understand the reference I'm not fucking that young. I saw those commercials when I was growing up. I know it doesn't mean. It's funny. Right. Doesn't mean. It's just like you're referencing a commercial, which is the commercial funnier than what you're even doing. Right. And then like bringing up like, where's the beef? We know what we're the. But if somebody used that even now, we would be like, we get it, even though it's old movie. Yeah. That stops being funny after a while from the movies just life. All times. So fuck grape pies. What we're saying? I don't have never had it. So because I'm not a fancy fuck, man. Is like two dollars fifty cents is not seven dollars. That's what it was. HEB implied that it was like a luxury item. So never I never afford grave. So whatever. For the view. But I think you're more interesting movie. But all this is happening, Rob Lowe is evil, and he's trying to get a video game developer slash arcade owner too. Sponsor this whole like Wayne's world sponsored by Ted's arcades or whatever the fuck. It's those kids. Remember, those arcades? Wow. Like arcades? But you're absolutely right. When was the last time like a little kid who was like, I'm gonna go to the arcade to play fortnight? Can't do. I mean, they kind of have a new iteration of quivalent there. Equivalent there. Malls. They have like X boxes and like Molly stations at malls. That have all sorts of screens internet access C pay like five bucks. You log in you get to play like an hour for like five bucks. Remember the last time I set foot in the mall. That's amazing legitimate mall, not like outlet mall mall. Nelson. It's like, let's play video games live and you can play fortnight. You could do if you can't afford the system. So arcades are back. Just imagine that kid. He's imagine where you go play ball or your local shopping center and the magic that you had to put quarters into play the games. And so you have Rob Lowe being the evil. Patrick Bateman pretty much pretty much from that movie American sites. So what he's doing? He's trying to get a cut of the profit. From Wayne's world tried to to to get the sponsorship sold essentially for the sponsor sold. So you can kind of understand what his character is. Now, this is apparently his first comedic role like, obviously, we know Rob Lowe from parks and rec I know from Tommy boy being the evil, brother. But this is hand like reaching for the first time into comedy trying to be funny character doing too bad. I mean, this is the late nineties we still hate eighties yuppies at this point. Yeah. He's playing ultimate. So with that the boys are giving opportunity of a lifetime. They are given an opportunity to just sell out. Now, I'll tell you this as I've said on many podcasts. Okay. I've done. I will tell anybody watching out there. I will sell out immediately. You to know that I want to know that if someone were to hand how a coupon red Robin out fuck itself out of media. There'd be no you there'd be no backdrops. There'd be no chat. I would sell out immediately. Just like these. Like, I don't care if I'll sponsored by the NRA. I'd take the fucking money and donate a little bit some charities up. Take the money. I'll sell out I want you to know that Chris you are expendable if they give me a red Robbins coupon so. You know, you have another one of those five dollar puckers coupons. I have like seven hundred five free wing coupon from went to, but we're not talking about that. No. We're talking about how they sell out and their opportunities pick a moment here for a Wayne's world salute to the guess jeans, girl. Claudia Schiffer swing? Poll. She's a she's magically. She tested, very high on the stroke ability scale, hey through yet because I'm getting tired of holding this show. That's what she said. We salute you. Okay. I have one question about the before we can send you is that cool and talking about that Dick's wrecked and girthy and hard day cool to be like an our show. We're going to have a full section about how hot girl lives, and how how much of a Boehner should give. The nineties, but like would that be cool now as I figure in like the most sensitive circles saga understa garbage of all these guys are talking about that shit. It's a weird thing because I'm wondering where the line is drawn for some of these old dated shit. Like is that to offensive? I don't I don't want to like put myself out there. Like, it's like, it's grotesque. It's crude we knew crude back then. But like, I don't know does that kinda shift. No, I don't think you can do that. Now, maybe can. But no, I mean back its crew gets on purpose laughing at them as well, maybe laughing with them too. Can you can you do that like on Jimmy Kimmel Kobe, right? No, you can't do that late night. TV that kind of thing, right? Still didn't make SNL or whatever because it's a weekend. Hey, we know that these guys are idiots, and that's part of the joke. And so you could certainly laugh at it still. You just can't be like. Vessel every day. Too seriously because I even knew that dip that it was even like, oh, we should give me a boner. It was just like it was filled the Franko, and he was like look at that the baby the week or whatever. Hot. She is he stopped doing that. Because getting sponsors. So he was like. Oh, yeah. Where does that sort of line? How you're selling it. I think if you're purposely like, I'm playing idiot character. It's like, okay, then it works. That's what they're doing. These two are idiots supposed to be crude. That's why it's it's not offensive. It's part of the joke. Okay. Just making sure just curious. I'm just wondering your show capable of so much more. We'll we'll try harder. Okay. Gives second chance. Just come in Kansas. So that gives us a second. Come relax your pills media. He wants to sponsor the show put you on our station and pay you guys huge salary. But here I am with the contract and to cashier's checks for five thousand dollars. Excuse me. Powder. It sounded like you said you're going to pay us for doing Wayne's world. I know you just give me the word, and I'll tear up these checks right here. No. Yes. Trump my pin? I'm not so sure about. Does this seem weird? I mean, why does this guy have contracts? Did you ever see the twilight zone with the guy signed a contract cut out his tongue, and they put it in a jar wouldn't die. It just grew and gave birth to baby Tom's. Pretty cool. Go. To Wayne's world. And so, you know, it's a standard story of you know, one guys like, oh, we're to sell out. I want to make that money. I've been waiting for it other. And the other one's like I'm not too sure about that. It's leading to a conflict inevitable follow out between the two exactly very basic stuff, very basic stuff there. But at the same time, you know, what they made the money. They're gonna make their money five thousand dollars is like probably like seven thousand dollars in today's money. Yeah. But they don't know how much they're actually sell their show for. But here's the thing. So, you know, it's pretty standard stuff. And then it's like match it. It's obviously the most archaic big break story. Oh, we got our five the numbers the numbers as you can get so they get their money and at the same time, Rob Lowe is taking interesting Cassandra's music, and he's trying to make the moves to be like, oh, you want to start a music video very fancy man and very rich. And so two. Music video contract. Yeah. Trying to spend a little quality time with there being creepy ass. Rob lowe. Who wouldn't you? I'm surprised that there's not more people at that. He doesn't take her back to his apartment and kills a chainsaw nothing. Like that that's fair. But you know, what that doesn't stop Wayne Wayne? He's enamored. He's the dream. Weaver was playing in the back as he was watching her absolutely in love with her having talked to her like twice truly very briefest. True love at first sight. And apparently, I cut that part out. Yeah. In the meantime, just one random seeing he taught himself, and so he could talk to her how he knew she spoke that we don't know. He's not even China in real life. She's like some sort of. Whatever it is absolutely beautiful. And so he taught himself Cantonese communicate with her. And I'm sorry. I messed up the subtitles our heads are in the way in our. But you gotta get the context of what they're talking about. That's. Talk. You know, if you guys go to break, you could really make. Yeah. Frog wings bump as many hopped. Interesting got something I wanna say to you. They hold on. It's amazing. Preteen cantonese. Nato? Joan gun gun gun. Tuck. Geico. Doug me. Kenya? Hold him. Get call you. Anytime. It's stuff. Like that. At the end that I love about this. I will concede. There's some funny stuff going on like that girl know actresses, but she's fucking funny. Every time she's onscreen cheese. The best thing about it. And the whole bit about the language now, it's like says one word that goes on for so long. Fuck it drew that was funny. It's cool. But he has a thing for me watching this. It was it was kind of a weird contextual thing. Because I felt like watching just that seeing the loan showed me how much this movie influenced a lot of movies all the way to the early two thousands. There's a lot of things that last random part where they've flies through the glass just of fall over that's like half, a Chris Farley and Adam Sandler movies where stuff's happening. Whereas this serious stuff back gag. That's a lot of physical Colorado empowers awesome power like that. And I think that's why for me this movie the comedy is. So relatable is because I am. Product of the influence of this movie and other films and other things because there's a lot of you know, that's what she said. Like that ended up being a bigger thing laid. No. But when I said, it he said at once they left it alone that became a big thing with the the office that we're like, Scott sky would say that. So that became a bigger thing later, so there's like little bit of like seeds being planted. These jokes are being made back in ninety two that ended up just kind of growing into these trees that were like will Ferrell movies and Sandler movies and things like that. So I find a lot of this stuff a million. Yeah. And that's that's what I guess I will concede that this movie is influential. It's it's it's been done better in other movies and TV shows and things like that. I'll admit it was the progenitor for certain things, right? And it has its moments. But the thing is I think a common you have to be consistent right yet to be consistently funny in this movie. Does is this your comedy Halloween? People think it's really good. But since it influence, so many different things that people ended up expand. Haven't even seen this film, really think of our generation of people who may be younger than this. The I don't think they've watched this movie they won't back to the same problems that we do I'm assuming maybe two degree. But I mean, no, I think Halloween is better. At least that's more different genres fair. No, I I will I will agree with you too degree that this movie was influential, but it just clearly influenced better things. But here's the thing though. You clearly don't like the comedy in this movie. A lot of a lot of subjective. I like a little bit more of it. And the reason why is because when I'm watching this. I'm watching to very creative people to guys the beginning at the beginning of the top of their prime. Yeah. So like. So like this movie, and they start doing awesome powers. That's more of Michael Mike Myers. That's that's where I really liked right? And then Dana Carvey he did that. But then he was goofy movie as he character much success. But but he was still funny throughout the nineties, George H W Bush. Brilliant. Exactly. Yeah. And the biggest thing was here's that this director was brought on as we mentioned earlier for one reason to stay on budget on time. And she did that. But here's the thing that they also liked about. It was the fact that she would let them rewrite stuff at the very last second. So some things you may not like, we're probably improv or they were just written by Mike and Mike Myers that you just didn't like, but the thing was that it was a creative constantly evolving machine that she was just like go ahead and do it. But you have like three takes do it. If you can't do it. We're going to do it my way. So it kind of restrained. Everything kind of restrained the whole movie, and it limited the free styling and the improv of these two comedians, which is what you need movie like this Judd appetite because if you watch a movie like that, I know you hate though, we're appetite goes do improv and then they over four hours at the camera down for four hours. We'll get some good stuff from here and his scripturally three pages long. That's all that's all he ever does. Right. So this movie will you can see that had some straight. Also. No, it has enough restraint Wayne's world's evidently better than most of what was done. Yes. It's forty year old people are fucking crazy movies funding. Ridiculous damn. And so when you have that kind of funny scenes like this, she's a she's a rope obeyed and Latin she would be called baby majora if she were president Lincoln. Did you ever find Bugs Bunny attractive when he'd put on a dress play girl bunny? No. No. It's just asking. That apparently was like that was like the last day of shooting. This one just doesn't matter anymore as a matter anymore, but at the same time another core Coleman reference because he thought that Bugs Bunny dress up as a woman was hot. He's admitted that before all sexy. After more care does. It's really weird. But the fact that Garth brought that up I don't know if he walked goddamn introduce Lola bunny, the the bosoms. When he played basketball every weirdos dream, including the furry me. Zeros me interested in this. And then I broke that I broke that part of why am I curious about? Oh, women exists. Cool. God some people, but the people that realized women exist, and then was like now take the ferry bunny, and that's a whole nother around going. I'm not shaming. I'm just saying I found out that women exist, and then I stuck with that. Have used to stick with other things. So be just make sure it's consensual and horses consent. So they cannot nor do make so along with the improv at writing stuff like that. You may not like it by like some of that stuff. But there is one thing that I do enjoy about this movie sometimes, and that's the fact that it just gets really silly. Incoming safe. All right. She's okay. You say child is childish shit. But to me, I like that stuff like that jackass right there. That's like pro jackass, we're you know, pratfalls and should have been around forever, but just randomly injected physical comedy point other than just to be silly now. I know we've got a couple examples where you're already like, I don't like it. But it's at this point where I'm like, okay. This movie is starting to do. Whatever wants que they got the deal. They got the money. Everything is good. This is the high point in the movie where things are successful this at the same time the weird part about as you think. Oh, the success and the first show is going to be the peak. Right. But obviously the being conned so that can't be the peak. So what they end up doing is. They just start making up stuff to be the peak and then have the downfall happened after that. And part of that whatever they want is. Like, okay, we're going to go ahead and throw in a few scenes like you mentioned that are like just sketches or as I put a YouTube sketches just little vignettes of seems like oh, man. This is funny. I think this I can write three minutes about this. I'm going to go ahead and do that. So they establish a lot of these jokes. We'll give them that they establish a lot of the places in the scenes and the things that they bring up right, okay. In the movie in the beginning. But at the same time, they just kind of bring up jokes and things that are unrelated to the thing that are going on starting with the Qatar store. There. It is Excalibur. Sixty full Fender Stratocaster classic triple pickups into whammy ball. VS Fender corporate, where's the clerk? I know. I'll use the may. I help you riff. Yes. No stairway. You're amazing, dude. Thanks. I like to play. Do you accept cash? So it's like okay for people who go to shops. You know that if you play stare at heaven, everyone hate you want help you play a mean nasty riff. Oh, whatever the drums. Slowly, did I recognize as being a really good drum solo? But other than that. What does it do anything other than she wanted the tar typically most comedies if if it lends itself to the plot to a certain degree, then then I think it works better or you just have random scenes like this just does not. I mean, I will say though, Dana Carvey when he has that one was like thank you when he said that delivers. But at the same time, what does it have to do with other than he's buying tar? And they she knows things about guitars, some feller, but it doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It doesn't exactly that. It's filler doesn't mean anything. And I'm not saying that comedy's needs to be like, oh, so snappy all the time. It's not even funny is the fact that it doesn't matter. I'll even tell you this. I can't even tell the difference between when he switched guitars like his old guitar the beginning. Qatar? So to me, it's like, oh, there's no visual difference feel purple if it was green if something different. But okay, that's moving even visually doesn't make goddamn sense. But at the same time when they're doing this kind of like, you know, just shot in the dark comedy sketches, or whatever there's one that you're laughing the trailer everyone laughs at it when they see it. And I actually think that it works a lot better even now because obviously in the nineties or early nineties after the eighties, which was like, hyper corporate people were, you know, selling out like we're talking about this whole concept were corporations getting bigger people, branding and all this stuff. It's it was the biggest time since like the fifties. And sixties when there are people were trying to brand like that. So when they make a joke about selling out. It's still poignant now to the fact that yeah, everybody's being sponsored by something. There's a sponsor for everything your sponsor, a trombone sponsor, a sound sponsor for the NFL. Are you fucking kidding? Sure, deodorant sponsor when they talk about that. When they make a joke about it. Yeah. It's nonsense yet so YouTube sketch. Yeah, it's an SNL sketches. But it's actually still pretty funny. We need to talk about van. The fact is sponsor and you signed a contract guaranteeing him certain concessions one of them being spotless show. That's where I see things a little differently contractor. No, I will not bow to any spots. Sorry, you feel that way. But basically, it's the nature of the based. Maybe I'm wrong on this one. But for me the beast doesn't include selling out. Garth. You know what I'm talking about? Right. People only do because they get paid truly sad. A can't talk about it anymore. It's giving me a headache. Hear these. Newprint little different. Look you could stay here in the big leagues. Play by the rules, or you can go back to the farm club enro- choice. Yes. And it's the choice of a new generation. If you mother fuckers don't stop it right now. It goes a little long, but at the same time, the concept itself is pretty fun as fine. But it's like it was funny. Tremendous showed the Pizza Hut thing. The cameras right one is less is more always. But it keeps going and it stops being funny. L rookie body sponsor where he got sponsored by wonder bread and big red gum and all this is the same sketch. It's the same thing. Do they even added more? This better. But they know they did that like the end of the movie in like the credit. They did more. Yeah. Yeah. They did like what's or twice during the whole, Phil. That's all. But thank God. Rob Lowe man, because his reactions are easy straight, man. Right. God for him. Did get caught up in some weird shit in his own life like sweeper. I don't I don't know. I thought he had like a substance substance abuse. I don't know be in this movie. I kid. Greasy. He's he's fucking Patrick Bateman, man. Right. Right. Beside the point though, no matter what code insight, you could get that commercialization our whole entire thing. The one of the very next scenes is Mike Myers is underwear just fucking prancing around humping thing. So it's like, okay. Whatever sort of intelligence movie could've had kind of gets negated by him. Just thrust thing about and just being nasty. Crude for the sake of being crude, that's funny stuff too. Nothing to it. Real. Thing you go from shit like that. And I hate to bring up another one, but there's another super outdated reference in this movie along with another interaction with another figure that which every day that goes by they get more outdated as well. Look there. We got back. Really enjoyed the show. Didn't we? The French missionaries and explorers were coming here. As early as the late sixteen hundreds to trade with the native Americans. In fact, is a Milwaukee engine name ESPN, it is actually pronounced mealy walk which is for the good land. Well, we gotta get going. No, no, no stick around hang out with. Yeah. We'll stay in hanging around with. Cooper. That's. The movie, and that's another one, right? Where it's like, oh, we all know, we're not worthy. We're not worthy. But who are they saying to fucking Alice Cooper is even relevant. How how long has it been since he's been really relevant? I realized that I've never heard Alice Cooper song. Frankenstein. I know that movie. But I don't know the music and then a Laverne and surely reference like. That is a earn. Shirley. Fifty foot in the grave yet at this point and shit like that where it's like man like like so sad because it's like. Was like the shit for everybody. But that's the people that were in the ruthless. For being old right or making fun of us are being young. They don't even remember the Vernon shows us for that. Shirley was for like my parents like early eighties. I think so ten eleven years prior to that it's like full house references. It's like I mean. But that's the thing. It's just shit like that. And then you Alice Cooper, he was on like those fucking. He was on the eighties nineties. He was like one of the one guy one of the guys speaking on the shows popular, you know, he's still dialogue by. That he sells very well. Right. Not good acting. But at the same time, it's just like at a certain point this'll be these moments will be irrelevant to anybody. Watching this goes along further in life. It goes it'll be irrelevant. Go similar to early nineties comedy that we've already done sister act. There's a lot of shit in there. That's gonna last forever inner city, kids and singing gospel. This is like specific metal specific jokes to references and things like that. So it's like shit. That's kind of the disconnect that you're getting this movie it's a little bit hard to go along with. But you know, you have your gods. You have your various things those will all die. Those are all die. All. Fade the sands of time. And at this point. It was like, yes, they just needed a few more minutes of nonsense who've already ninety three minutes. It's already cutting it close. And so they get to that point. Like we said which should have been the peak, which is the new Wayne's world, the new and improved Wayne's world. But at the same time that's more of the start of the decline, and you can see the client, and actually it's kind of funny in certain ways where you see the corporate influence. Wayne's world is brought to you by Noah's arcade party on Wayne. Friday. It's eleven thirty. It's time to party with your excellent and rhythm as always is. Party on Wayne and party on. Okay. Welcome the ways world party on Garth. And guess what is your most? You'll game right now. Desert Storm commando warrior. Well. We like to say. That's it. Get right outta town. Well, thank you for being on Wayne's world. It was informative and stimulating. No word from our sponsor. We're at commercial that was fun publicly humiliated. The sponsor. Yeah, you're fired fired for that. Right. I'm out of here. Taking my show with me we own the show. Good. Scene. Scanners. Really pissed me off tonight. You've never been mad at anything in your life. Yeah. But you shouldn't walked out on the show. I mean, I handed it. Okay. But it shouldn't walk out of your without telling him, okay? How? You're a game. What you can do with your pop quiz. G you could do your show. Dr. Kisser with that mouth gunmetal daddy here Damian. Find the go gone good. God. And that's another point. That is also getting weaker by the moment. It's the fact that they go, okay, we need conflict in this movie. So we're gonna make the nicest character so uncharacteristically upset the movie can't even comprehend itself to where to scenes later. Everything's normal. Again. It's literally two scenes where it's like, oh, he goes in pisses off Cassandra, and then he goes back to the diner, and they're friends again. That's uncharacteristically mad. He got there. That's how inconsistent they realize that fuck we have to actually fix the movie and just break the fourth wall with several times. Right. So weird. Right. And so when you have so he's the darkest point in time where the cameraman walks out on them. But it's like you said five minutes of him just got a moping around. And so in the midst of all this he's going to go save Cassandra from getting having sex with rob Lowe's. Character music. Video and she's totally into doing him. Which was not even if they would've had a conversation about it instead of her him accusing her not had a movie at first of all you also had the whole thing solved. But then again, we talk about dated references this movie just looked out though this last. Okay. The one I'm talking about right? Oh, yeah. The one where it's like, you know, what we're gonna keep just referencing popular movies and popular TV shows, and this would actually lucked out. Yes officers. There's something wrong. Have you seen this boy? Point terrified of the T one thousand. That's. What the fuck that's weird to bring. Okay, the years same year, even okay? Maybe like a couple of months after that movie. Even better. That's just that's such a culturally significant move that they were like a parody of that out for them in their favor. So good it. Works like buyers, say work. But after that like you said they go how do we wrap movie? I don't know. Let's just figure it out. Okay. So we had Chris Farley describes stuff earlier in the scene with Alice Cooper, which one weird cameo, but to its convoluted thing where the person in charge of a major record label is going to be passing through the city. And then so their plan guards plan to Garth is a science wiz. They're going to broadcast Wayne's world rerouted to his phone phone TV, but his limo TV that only he can see they're going to triangulate everything to make that work. So he can watch Cassandra's performance tell them where they live, and then somehow get a record deal for her because they're able to tap into that TV's our system. Where we got other than he plays with toys a little bit and gadgets every so often. Where he builds a robot arm. Do we get to the point where he can triangulate satellites shit weird thing, and it's just so have hazard that the last ten minutes of this movie is just like the hardest thing to keep up with some time. Because even though they break the fourth wall just briefly mentioned even though they re do things even though they repeat things over and over. It's just chaos, and it might not work for some people. Okay. This is a special way rolled okay is for an audience of one. So Mr. Frankie sharp sharp records. If you're watching. Twenty to thirty four. So ladies gentlemen, I give you Cassandra crucial. Sharp sharp records, a Sawyer performance in my limo. I must say I've seen a lot of accent my day. Although you're extremely beautiful. I just think it's the wrong time. Good. My correa. I was new your small time. Didn't really think she'd end of Wayne did you? If we did the movie like that. This. Give me do any good goal. Just saw your performance level. Well, we go through well that wraps it up with there's one last thing. Let's just see who really are Mr.. With the guy who runs the Hyde Park. I would've got away with a two hadn't been for you snooping kids. Good. Excellent Scooby doo either. Mega happy ending. That's doable. Must tell you terrific. It's so good. Only gives us six deal starting to mile. Wayne cassandra? Enough. You love you dream woman. I love you, man. I love you because I've learned the tonic love can exist between grow. The movies goes or whatever. But I ended on Joe honestly, this movie. I'm a let you take it from here. Give it to you. It's I don't think it's written all that. Well, it's super day to certain extent performances are of stilted, look, this is a this is a skit SNL skit going for ninety God plus minutes, and I just. God. Plus God damn plus God didn't make it this long. And I think it's a big problem the film. It's just like there's some SNL schizo don't need to be movies. I think this is one of them was an influential to a certain degree in certain scenes of other films came in the future. Sure. But I don't think you know, that warrants that the this. It's just kind of boring there are some scenes giggled that laughed at. So it's not it's not some old bullshit. It's okay. It's a rental is a rental. It's a rat. As a rental. Yes. And that's another didn't offend you anger. Nothing. Angered me. Nothing made me nothing. Move moves offensive or anything like that? Sometimes it's sometimes humor is okay. And certain scenes like the whole thing where he's doing the cat needs thing. And the and the and the subtitles keep going on. That's funny, but there's not enough of that. And when you're constantly making reference dated references that there's not gonna hold up twenty years later, thirty years later, right? So yeah. For me. It's all right. Well, like for me, I'm similar similar, but. Different view as because as much as movies kind of a time capsule to the nineties. It's still actually really done a really well done parody of the commercialization of art, whether it be public access or now really similar equivalent to like YouTube channels and podcasting. Yeah. A lot of the stuff still kind of holds up. It's amazing. How similar some of these problems are even twenty years later. I mean, besides the commentary of the film is just being like a classic SNL sketches to comedians at the beginning of the prime as well. As kind of casserole players that are doing enough to make the movie just shine. I really appreciate it. Everyone else's going to get your. Excuse me, kind of contributions through the film. You know, who is the head Bundy Esa character O'Neill Neal's great little moment right there. Characters like that Cassandra. She's amazing. To that is pretty amazing people. There's people that make this movie and physical comedy like that hilarious. This for me is a. It's man. Because here's the thing. I'm not saying you need to go. See it in theater. I wouldn't say. You can't. But if they were to have a special lanes world screening, whatever have you say, okay. That'd be against going and seeing but the idea is that this is something that can be enjoyed by just about everybody little kids adults. There's something for everybody. It's simple and premise Cillian tone and something to ponder in our ever growing commercialization day and age that we're living in. So it's something that I can see this for what it is. I can make the parallels. I imagine you can do a story like this and make it a little bit more relevant nowadays better. You can make a little bit better. And you can and you can make it to where you don't have all these data jokes. The, you know, you won't get like you could do something like this. If you keep it away from emoji movie territory where it's where it's immediately specific. And you just make it to where it's a little bit more broadly specifics, let's go and take a look Wayne's world is more of a parody of nineties late eighties. Pop culture gold at the time influential, but the older it gets the more to go back to the vault. God comedies me when currency Hayes for virgin with the Gert stare. Oh, yeah. There's not good people are going to be a little of set. But you know, I don't care. It's okay. I'll style stand on that hill and die on a man. It doesn't matter to me. I don't like John appetite films maybe can go with Billy Mays play. Billy mays. He's dead. You know, we have fucking Billy Mays Nick offer fucked that guy the guy that got his Hooker. Hooker around and got his tongue. Fuck you Vince off like, which should he move you out of forty-three or an inappropriate comedy over comedies? Fuck you give Billy Mays back. Somebody those words we could do somebody resurrection where you kill Vince off or bring back Billy Mays. It's just too bad the Billy Mays love cocaine so God damn shame. But hell the drug, but. Sickest that time. Back again this time round. Thomas time. But before we get into com. Thank you for watching this week's episode, which was wage world. And watching last week's episode which was I must that up evil dead two. And we'll go ahead and get your comments right now. But I hit like button hit it again. Third time's a triple like don't like it. And then subscribe to double toasted and leave like a thousand comments, we need more comets. Go ahead and do all that. Dot com is dot com. It's right there, and it's gone. So Chris let's get into these comments because we had evil dead of the big crowd last week. Also people were excited. So let's see what the first one says prime three fifty the reason why storyline changes between movies and TV series is licensing issues each movie was made by different studio. So you had a big complained that evil dead series is just so starkly different from each other all the time that might explain it. I guess that makes the TV by the second or third season. They could reference all the other movies. I guess, but yeah, they couldn't like do like army of darkness or the first evil dead, but even the other films that was that was really bothering me get behind the scenes deal. Right. And so the next up they say Michael land he goes so armee of darkness to be reviewed next year. We only do our yearly allotted three or four horror movie that we don't. But unless it's really slow and people really want it. We'll do army darkness. But not until then okay before a moment less next. Young l g k I'm sorry. I really really really hate claymation and stop motion probably more than CG that was one of the big issues with us claymation can be good but eighties claymation pretty hard Kittle get on board. Animated movies like something like Kubo or Walson Crom. Live action a real person claymation zombie lady. Yeah. Real head. It's just so goofy. And just doesn't hold up at all. But, but there was another argument that they had against me because I said, I didn't like it. And it's simplified by Andrew Smith cushy sheltered as people are like, oh being so sheltered not seeing these eighties whore elements that I appreciate them for what they are. So it's kind of like because I didn't experience at the time or earlier, I guess because I'm not I'm assuming that I'm assuming that everybody is watching this is roughly twenty five to forty. So it's like, okay, they're either young kids or teenagers. When eighties is around or they watched it as young kids. I didn't have that point of reference or saying, oh, I just don't get it. So I don't know if that's the case, I watched it when I was younger, and I still think it doesn't it doesn't work. You know, I appreciate a film like for extractable effects claiming. She just doesn't look good wins the live action. It looks awkward takes you out of right? So but for people who did like, the movie cat evil to my go-to answer. When people ask me what my favorite movie is. I watch his movie when I was sixteen years old and left a huge impression on me. I'd bring it's a parties and make my friends watch it. I'm glad Sammy can appreciate it stop motion animation and all also Johnny Utah. It is you who is fake and also so cab out you always calm and thanks again for commenting. But yeah, people like Mike McAllister he comes in he'd love movies. One of my top five movies. A lot of you are mentioning again that is the five poor movie for them. And I wish I could have just seen it. I wish I could have just seen what they saw. I don't know. Maybe I just like the first one better. I'm I'm there. But there's a lot of ECOMOG imagery from that second film influence rest of the series. I think having watched the TV series. I can see why people have even more for the second movie. I understand Corey Ivy to see more Bruce. Campbell's acting the movie Bubba hope tips, replays, elderly Elvis, Presley Ozzie Davis you've seen that. Good to see. It's funny. He plays like he thinks he's Elvis Presley. And then the other guy is a is a black man who was secretly JFK. What's in there in a like, a nursing home slash insane asylum, and they have to deal with like some supernatural. It's a fun film. That's interesting that man people. How do you watch somebody movies this time and forget the director time in the world. Phantasm which is weird SCI fi horror series. View Sunday night. Now, I'd like to thank you to seldom do I do this. Yeah. Thank you for being generous to be because they didn't say nothing me or crude vaguely or disgusting to my girlfriend, which is. But I did get one that she enjoyed it. So I will read it on air because it's pretty funny Laos than she Sammy's girlfriend. She must be under the same fat reverse thin. Magic spell. Shallow hal. You may be right. You don't know about tricks. But no, she was cracking up at this all my God. There's a couple other nice comments in there. But the one that made her lab made a lot of people laugh apparently the most was telling Johnny Utah. The guy was talk shit last week piss off Lukic, where's your show savage? So I mean, I guess there was a hit right there. But I think that is actually does. There's one more comment that it vexes me. But I enjoyed it enough to put it in there, and it's very simple. Frank, jeered Donohoe checks. Yes. That's the state. We live three like, so I guess we are in the state of Texas. So with that say. And go ahead and hit like time that you've already triple. I told you subscribe to double toasted and go to calling me. Oh. Oh. Declined. Because I go to my phone. Why does? Hopefully that didn't tell you anything. I'm sorry. Anyway. 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Bonus Episode: Bill & Ted Face the Music and The New Mutants

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Bonus Episode: Bill & Ted Face the Music and The New Mutants

"Ready Bill Ready to. We've spent our whole life trying to write the song number unite the world. Why can't we just go to the future when we have ridden? Take from her cells. A Dancer totally in trouble. Off to get. that. Song. Building to add. Thirteen Jonas episode. Ready. Legs seven million podcasts doubt. During. Bradley. Over kicking up the scraps. It's a trap. Cocker Spaniel. Carryover. Your Called Sir. Ready Been Ban. DOVERS. Our right. Hey everybody. This is a bonus episode. We're going to be covering I bill and Ted face the music. This is available on video on demand and in select theaters nationwide. Once told, they'd save the universe during a time traveling adventure to would be rockers from San Dimas California, find themselves as middle aged dads trying to crank out a hit song and fulfill their destiny. That's what we're going to be talking about. Bill and Ted Face The music been waiting twenty nine years for this one and we are not alone jake. We've got guests this week to talk about bill face the music. All thank God, we have Paul, Hart, from the Animated Bat cast and movies from the heart. Welcome back. Paul. Station. Thanks for having me man absolutely and Steven I've been kissed by a red grave rose. That didn't come out right. We've got Steven Redgrave from dissecting this fiction podcast, but I've never understood the lyrics to that Song Jake I've been kissed by a rose on the grave. What does that even mean dude? That's very bizarre like are you dead already someone left you flowers yeah. Think someone's morning your loss. I don to be romantic. Seriously think about it too much. Yeah like. I just went flaccid thinking about the lyrics from this song. And it's a Batman movie which kind of really makes no sense my gosh. Yeah. Another another another another thing that doesn't make sense is is teenage mutant Ninja Turtles Heroes in a half shell what buck does that mean? A. Full show. Doesn't make any sense. Steven Redgrave welcome first time in the podcast welcome. Oh Wow wow. I don't have any answers for your Red Rose, dilemma but. That's a new for me. I've been called many things but that that's a new we've never been called I've been kissed by a red. Grave. Rose. Shocking. Well you got a ten for unique points now. God. Thinks things I think are just stupid. This young Bill No. Thank you for joining us on this one. Bill and Ted face the music directed by Dean Parasite. He's the galaxy quest director writers are the original writers from. The other bill and Ted Movies Chris Chris Matheson and Ed Solomon. This one stars, Alex, winter, encounter, reeves, they both reprise their roles as Ted Theodore Logan and Bill S Preston esquire why didn't they call him esquire esquire term for a lawyer it makes no sense. I. Learned that fact listening to this podcast years ago wouldn't you brought up that escort means lawyer and I never understood then y bill referred to himself that way. Yeah. Yeah. It makes no sense William Sadler's back as the grim reaper. Newcomers Kristen Shaw Samara Weaving Bridget Lindy pain. Anthony Kerrigan Erin Hayes Jameh mays. Billy mays I'm kidding I'm not billy mays he's. That was the oxy Clean Guy Man that guy? Yeah that guy he had an incredible beard, his beard looked like somebody had just like stapled steel wool on his fucking face. Like he he looked like he came out of the womb with that beer. Didn't he billy mays from oxy clean. He's Dad. Died Holland Taylor is also in this one kid cutty, Beck Bennett and Jillian Bell joined the cast. So we are going to be talking about this movie but first we're going to give our overall thoughts and rate at non spoiler thoughts, and if this is your first time listening, we'd like you to be familiar with our rating system. The rating system is simple if the leftovers don't like something, they toss it. If they do like something, they suggest you tasted and if it's brilliant, it gets tupperware rating if all the leftovers love it, then it gets to the pinnacle of success a Tupperware Party right let's find out if this movie has been kissed by stone on the grave I. Want. We'll start off with newcomer, Steven Redgrave from dissecting this podcasts what? Are Your overall thoughts of bill and Ted. Face to Buick. Is it worth the wait and what are you rated? I would have to say it is not worth the way I feel like. They basically took the first two movies and they contradicted the entire premise of them and. It went nowhere by the end of the movie I was really bored by this one and I felt like they just dropped the ball. Because this movie is why like ten years in the making or something like that? was what they came up with. So I I would have to say this is a low taste for me low taste low tasted APP Paul. Tell me what you thought. Yeah I feel like I'm going to be an only aislinn this episode. I am going yeah. I'm just GonNa Tupperware I really enjoyed this. With just kind of school back in session I definitely have my blinders on because I've watched a first two, maybe two hundred times in the past lake since March with my daughter were always being the wild stallion so. It was fun revisiting bill and Ted seeing their family seeing some old characters, the new characters. It was just like felt like everything we needed right now just like. You didn't really need to turn your brain onto kind of enjoy it. It was just kind of that mindless fun that just felt so refreshing right now. So yeah, that's where I'm at temporary from Paul. We'll get into what you loved when we unpack it, Jake don't face the music. Yeah coming in I wasn't very high on the idea of doing this movie near the trailers really knocked my socks off either. But this was a very, very high tasted for me. I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed this movie. It felt like Keanu and Alex didn't miss a beat I. I was very impressed at. Them doing all the mannerisms and not even just like the lines like just. The way they walked just spot on still it was like they step right into these roles and I instantly fell into the fiction of them being these characters. Again, I thought a lot of the new additions were very bill and Ted and felt very fitting to this franchise I loved Dennis Kayla McCoy might be parts of the entire. You just felt like know another character thrown into the mix like perfectly fit into this universe? I think the only thing keeping it from being a Tupperware for me was I thought maybe the jokes could could hit a little bit harder for me There was definitely a lot of very funny moments but. Overall I think it may be could have been a little bit more hilarious to get that chopper where 'cause for me, the first movies tupperware the second movies, very low taste it, and honestly this is my second favorite of the trilogy. This was just a very high tasted if you're a fan of bill and Ted I highly recommend this you, you can't miss this. I thought this was great. I am a Superfan of bill and Ted I love these movies I, watch these movies I I would say I, watch bill and Ted's excellent adventure at least once a year bogus journey I watch every couple of years or so but I, I, love these movies. I hold them very near and dear and I think a lot of that is nostalgia. I don't know if I was older when these were came out if I were revere them as much but I've always liked loved the soundtracks I've loved the characters and just kind of like the shit that they went through the time travel collecting historical figures and and even in the I, love the second one. So I'm the theater and loved him go into Hell and heaven. And Always looking for the easy way out and. been really looking forward to this movie loved the trailers for this movie and. I thought that I was okay I love the second trailer. Bill and Ted's face the music though. This might as well be called Bill and Ted. Fuck the franchise because I absolutely hated this fucking movie. From. Beginning to end I fucking hated it and I agree with Stephen that this movie totally contradicts the first two. and. It just it shattered everything that I love about billing. There is only a few parts that I liked I liked Denis Caleb McCoy. I liked when Mozart Jimi Hendrix had like, let's jump into spoilers. Let's jump into spoilers I'm gonNA play spoiler warning. Who has? Great. I liked win. Jimi Hendrix and Mozart. There you know. I don't know there that'll. Data when they were playing. Yeah. Jam Session with battling each other. There were. A did not feel like I mean it had all the elements of bill and TAT but it did not feel like a Bill Clinton movie like the humor was just not there except when it came to like them kind of being so dismissive to Dennis Caleb McCoy that was their Beck Bennett as Deacon did nothing in this book and movie. Absolutely nothing and this whole fucking movie in my opinion just contradicted the first two that they got to write the song and then. Just spoilers here for what I thought was a terrible movie everybody in the world fucking like. Basically it just turns into like what fucking? What was it like Pepsi we are the world like what the fuck? was that or like the whole world like jamming out to a song at the end, and then the movie just kind of fucking ends. I- Samara Weaving, and like the other girl that played the daughters I thought they were just doing bad. Impressions of Bill Tad, the entire movie I thought they were both. Ridiculous. I think. Bridget lundy pain think she's played. Bills Daughter. She didn't think she. She played onsides daughter. She did better. I. Think she. was basically trying to Mimic Ted from the first movie. Yeah. And then I feel like some are weaving was just they're using the word that they use the not necessarily trying to be the personality of. Her father, which I think was like, what took me out for those characters Yeah. No I agree I. I did not like this at all I. I was as I was watching it. I was like I cannot believe how much I do not like this movie. It was it was it was it was it was dumb and dumber dumb and dumber to for me where these guys are too old to be playing these characters and it's not cute anymore. And the writing was stale and maybe there was a way to do this. That would be better like I. Don't know if you've got like. Christopher Loy. Lord and Miller, Phil Lord and Chris Miller to do this to make it. Better and more fun and breathe new life into this franchise. But I like having the same two writers who I love I love the first two movies and to say that this movies better than bill and Ted's bogus journey is just like. I don't know that's blasphemy. I. I was. I was just so disappointed in this film. So even the grim reaper stuff was just terrible and I loved that character and bogus journey just terrible in this movie. Y- could see where you're coming from with the song like that. Just the premise itself is kind of setting itself up for a letdown like this song, it's going to unite the world like no matter what they play like audio for you. You're just going to be like Oh. This is the song that unites the world like I don't know what they could have done there. To make everyone who's watching like now along and agree oh. Yeah. The song definitely United Humana just do what they did in and I know this is a stupid thing to do just do what they did in. American pickle where like You know instead of like explaining the science, you have the character say. Yes. The EXC science worked out that's how he was like. pickled and came back to life. They could have just said like, oh, we're going to play the song now cut out came back and everybody was like Oh, my God that song is amazing. We never hear it in the movie people. have been the better people little that would have worked better in my mind. They had to have a really good song and. They had nothing like I was expecting like a song where people would want to listen to this in their car on a soundtrack or on the radio or something because it was that fun of a song for this movie knowing that it's the song that was. Waited for for how many years, right? Yeah. Yeah. But they didn't even do that like I would've I would've been more happy getting boats and hose at the end of this. Dude win whereas when you're watching the first bill and Ted movie and like. They show like the Compact disc of light with the. With the images of them like. Doing the era guitar it's like none of this ever happened like that never they never made. And then they pass they kind of like pass it off to like their daughters being the ones that set up the song, and then it's like their daughters get every get all these historical music figures together and The whole world things like just does a jam session or some Shit. It was just the. Way They try and chock it up at the got a throwaway line lego wasn't about the saw it was just about people coming together and it's the very final line of it. Yeah. Like it about what it was. It was about that. We all did it together. You know and I did I didn't enjoy he kid Cudi's reminded me of the Harlem globetrotters from Futurama. Kind of. Tried he was one of the worst parts of the movie and I'm the biggest kid cudi's band but his acting was terrible. Can ally over one thing I. Really wanted was a station appearance and all they did was they said his name was like Oh come on man. Those huge letdown? I don't know I. Think it was the movie was messy in I. Mean I wanted to spend more time with bill and Tad and kept doing like this side story where the daughters were going around collecting All, these musical. Figures from time and I didn't find it as spun and as charming as like the original one where they're trying to get the report together and they're they're they're picking up. So crates I mean so creates billy the kid Abraham Lincoln Genghis Khan like they all have such like they take them to the fucking Sandina small and they destroy the mall and it's such a fun scene none of that like like I guess like if you're going to try to recreate that, try to do it better or something or give us. The, but it was just like, okay. Here's Louis Armstrong here's Jimi Hendrix. Here's some drummer from fifteen, thousand BC or whatever the fuck who plays. With. Using drumsticks uses bones like what the fuck this is stupid. So I was like this is so fucking dumb. I was trying to guess they would get and I honestly thought they were GonNa go for like a at some I thought. Yeah I was on Arlanda England offering to get a beatle. Ringo on the drums instead of prehistoric. They put the historical figures on the back burner in this movie. They were basically just there as like see, we are checking off a box that we're doing what we did in the first one. That's really all it was the I think. Brian I think you brought it up earlier that the Hendrickson Mozart having their little dual yeah and the one thing that was that was fun. Yes I enjoyed that but that was still short lived short-lived. Yeah. I agree I actually had seen put a smile on my face when I was watching it I was like that's fine like there's there was something about like in that first movie with Mozart sitting down at that that that electronic keyboard and and just feeling the keys on it and listening to the sounds and then like. Watching Joan of arc starting your own jazzercise class or whatever and like. All all these fun elements where they took took these characters and they did something with them I felt like they took them and they really did nothing with them. They gave kid cutty like this stupid kind of like he knows about quantum physics and time travel all this stuff and I was like this is not with lying actor. Was He supposed to be station? Because because he says station yeah, I don't know it's supposed to be a nod to the character wasn't stationed at the PUCK. Didn't you have the character wasn't stationed at the At the end of. It wasn't stationed part of the band at one time in. The Bongo Drummers yeah so. So, at one time, because at the end of bogus journey, see all the headlines from the different magazines and they do show station and so maybe station was kind of like A. a music figure. So he knows of station being a part of Bill and Ted's wild stallions and so may I don't know maybe that was just like like just like a stupid Nostalgia Easter egg that they throw in with Kid Cudi's saying station, which pissed me off because I wanted to see station in this movie. Yes. That's the main. That's one of the. Yeah I really wanted to see station when they when he said I was like Oh, my God is he going to turn station, but then I'm like well, station station. So it doesn't make sense that he would be kid cutty in disguise. Yeah. Much thought of that. Do, anything that he's like great at doing either if you're GonNa have kid cutting and movie, let them fucking Rab and show his shit because he is fantastic at that. I was surprised. He wasn't part of the song or part of the band really in that way. So weird edition. Yeah I do enjoy that they had a little nod for George Carlin though his character s in the very beginning. Yeah. They. They took the. Archival footage from the first film and they use. Peo- tour Michael provided the character's voice. Of Rufus in this. And then it looks like Kelly Carlin Carlin's real life daughter makes a cameo appearance as one of. Somebody's follower in this movie. She's I. Think it's Supposed to be. The daughter of him in the movie. Okay. At one of her followers. Okay. We gotTA. Dave Grohl Cameo is kind of funny. Yeah I love the date girls. We get into the sorry go ahead as I loved is a song played at the beginning of the movie at the wedding. I. that. Really cracked me up with all the different instruments and just how weird an experimental it was. The Ryan to do the song that's going to unite the world I thought that was very funny. That, wedding itself where it's G can marry. Missy. I thought was hilarious as Helio MRIs pretty much married everybody in these movies except for bill and Ted. So to see who she wound up with. I thought was fucking hilarious. I guess it didn't work out with what's his name from the second movie The bag after Matt. How weird what were you gonNa say Stephen Guy what were you going to say? Stephen, you wanted to jump into something Will you brought up the whole part with? The Cameo. The. Meeting themselves from the future yeah. None of it made sense to me were they supposed to be. The same. To, just constantly like intertwining with them throughout tie or is it like different versions every time? To that when when When we get to? THEM IN THE FIRST ONE? You know they don't have the song it's two years later and they're just bitter because like Bill Tad have they th come into contact with the bill and Ted version of themselves that ruin their lives and so it's basically just like they hate bill and Ted for like the fact that they've lost the princesses, their wives they've they have no contact with their kids anymore and now are we making sense then we jump into. Three years after that. So we're you know five years into the future total now and they've broken into dave girl's house and they've stolen one of his songs and they're trying to play it off that this is the song. And basically, they want to take Dave Grohl Song from the future take it back to the past them get fame and fortune off of that song. It's not these song to unite everyone but it's just a song to fuck and make them rich and famous, and maybe a way to keep like the princesses around and then. After that when we go ten years into the future and they're in prison there in prison because of what they did. In breaking into Dave Girls House. So it all part of the same timeline. Okay. Now here's where I don't understand why they were so mad at them about losing their wives because at the end of this movie. We are in spoilers right? I. Can say Jack Osbourne Spoilers at the end of the movie. They come back and go. We're going to stay with you like it was a mute point had no relevance to the plot whatsoever. So by that logic going back in time or going to the future, they would have never left them in the end. So they were always there. So those two that were mad about it would have their wives back because in the end of this movie there there. Do we look at. We look at rufus quote like what is it like you make your own story or whatever? Blah Blah Blah you know what I mean do we look? Are we supposed to look at Rufus this quote? As the reason that they stayed. Doesn't make sense until the end of the story I believe still quote. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what. Even. He said. Hopefully, you forget everything that happened before by the end. I don't know part of me just thought it looks sad to watching fifth year old Keanu Reeves and fifth year old Alex Witter playing these. Do Physicians. See I thought that wouldn't work it all and there's one of the reasons I was looking forward to this movie but I thought that did work at least for me it and they were there were. There were moments where it worked for me, but like they were few and far between I just. Oh man I just kept begging for like a young bill and Ted. Felt like dumb and dumber the sequel like where you're just watching. Fifth. Year Old Jeff Daniels Jim Carey Beef fucking idiots and you're just like you guys are to alter this shit. It's the Myrtle rules too old for this shit. Man I never even watched that movie I couldn't I couldn't marry. I saw in the theater. I WANNA point out that I did see this one theater today. Probably wishing you saw unhinged now dude. I yeah. I should have seen it hinge. But Yeah I. I couldn't pass it up like the theater at the local theatre here and they all showing five bucks right now they're trying to get people back into the theater. So it was like fucking and see bill and Ted on the big screen for five bucks. Fuck. Yeah. Let's do this. Yeah I. I thought it was a little weird because we got we rented trolls when it came out and only gave you the option to rent for twenty bucks. But this gave I was under the impression I'd only be able to rent it but I was able to buy it for just five extra bucks I'm like Oh this this makes all. Just to. Buy It for five dollars, but I gotta say. fucking know Hank Anthony Cardigan as the robot was fucking amazing in this movie. Daycare. So especially when he's in Hell and everyone is just like yet there's a fucking robot and hell like just makes no sense. Crap. I feel like I enjoy them to an extent but they overdid it with that character especially with him like saying his name and. All the little Corsi had. I don't know to me. They were trying to like make a new grim reaper, but also have the grim reaper in the film. So it just seemed like what was the point of having both characters? The stuff that didn't make sense to me was the way he was acting before he started acting silly. and. Then we started acting silly than it. Made Sense and there is some tie. There is the only time I laughed uncontrollably in this is when he just kept saying his name and everybody was so dismissive to him. My name is Dennis Caleb. McCoy and it's just like a dumb name for a fucking robot. You know it's like he looks kind of like I don't know and the suit look cheap. It looked like it was made for like nine thousand, nine, hundred nineties, power rangers villain and. And it looks sheep it looks stupid and. The more they kept like shitting on that character the more I kinda like laughed at that character, it was like the only redeeming part of this movie. I wanted more of like bill and Ted just being very dismissive to that character throughout the. But I don't know I feel like the design of the costume was intended to be like A. A nostalgic thing for the second movie where they had the the worst looking outfits in that. First part of the movie where everything was just cut out foam shapes. That's what I got out of it. It was like a nod to the second movie, the the robot us. Yes the his whole. Armor looking like you said, the cheap. And fake and all that stuff. Yeah. Talking about like the fashion that rufus was wearing partout. All the classmates and stuff. Yahoo. I did not like the children. I'd like to go. Three that. Ted's daughter was better than bills daughter but I, both of them I enjoyed both their storylines. If net going. Fuck that. Fuck that fuck that seriously, I. I'm sorry but faulk that like I. I mean. If netflix. If NETFLIX's announces a spin with those to. fucking riot. Fail Be. Cancel actress for season. Anyway. So you'll be fine. The whole point of the characters was just this whole movie was just to set up that they are the new bill and Ted Right because. The second they call them bill and Ted. They changed the names in this one but essentially. There the replacements right at. That's what the whole point of this movie was I mean if this movie is huge. Then, yeah like we could definitely be seeing more of Little Bill Little Tad. You. Know Theodore and. Will Help Meena Billy Logan and the door the Preston. Oh my God I didn't I could see what you're saying that it would be an easy spinoff but during the movie, it didn't feel like it was like a heavy-handed trying to push the mantle onto east to do feature projects to me. They just felt like two other characters in this movie. I thought like it was obvious that they were going to be the ones that the song was really meant to be played by the by the news. It was like five minutes like five ten minutes into this fucking movie as soon as they introduce them I was like they're going to be the ones they're going to be the ones that save the day. The whole reason they're here is because they're going to be the ones that save the day. No argument there. Yeah and I guess I guess the after I guess the after credits scene kind've. Made just seemed this. Was it like I didn't really really didn't expect to be like Oh, we're going to see. The daughters in their own movie especially after the crash I'll say, okay, seems like a fairly. Finalization of these two characters and this whole franchise. God I hope it's Dad I hope this whole franchise is dead now after this. This. This is too bad. I'm dude I'm so glad you guys enjoyed it but like I'm a fucking I, love bill into a Superfan I fucking got I used to watch the fucking cartoon. I've watched these movies like multiple times I love these movies so much. And this was just this was hot dog shit. No. Yelich I definitely. Think I got blinders on I. Mean It's definitely a sentimental type thing but yeah I really. It sucks, you didn't enjoy this. But Yeah I definitely had a fun time with this one. I think maybe the biggest problem for me was I watched the first two movies like every day up until the release of this kind of. Recap. and. Get, the feels again for those two movies and so maybe going back to those so soon before. Made me more critical about this but I, feel like they just. Dropped the ball with this one they totally did so many funny parts in like the first bill and said, Oh my God like when they're they're getting ready to do their report. And they're just I think they're just fucking hanging out in. In. Bills Room. and. I think bills like. Dude you went to. The hall of presidents at Epcot Guy. and. He's like. What did What did they say? He's like Oh George Washington said, welcome to the hall presidents. Yeah and when they're in class and the teacher asks. Ted Who is Joan of arc and he goes Noah's wife I lost my shit. And like I just I don't know I did not get any of that in this movie where it's just like they're so young and innocent stupid and in this one, they're just so much older and it just did not work. It just didn't work for me and I thought. I thought their daughters were were terrible. I thought I thought fucking the grim reaper was terrible in this movie. I didn't care for William Sadler and that's Disappointing because I fucking loved him in Bogus Journey. and. I, this tried to play on our nostalgia and nothing worked I hated the side story of the girls going through time and grabbing these fucking. Musicians I thought it was so stupid. and down. Oh. God I could not stand it. It did not work for me. It was not as charming and it's fun as the first one Napoleon going to Waterloo waterpark. Oh. Yeah. Yeah and like. You know they didn't have time to really do any of the fun stuff with the historical musicians that they got here. They were just basically there to play this fucking song by the end of the movie we didn't have like. A billy the kid or as so crates that that really brought anything to it. It was just this fucking side story that they gave the daughters which I felt were unnecessary necessary characters just because it's like you know people have families and people have kids. So let's have him. Have have their daughters and their daughters are going to act like them and I don't know I just I was. Not sold and I didn't I didn't find. I. Can't tell you one point in this fucking movie I was like, Oh my God the daughters were fucking hilarious. All my God. Wow. Wow. Yet you definitely right with them not taking over the mantle and wanting to do anything for it in the franchise because they can't fuck and hold a candle to the original fucking bill into add. Probably would have been better off like giving them their own unique personalities. Than just trying to mimic you're you're not wrong their solar opposites. Yeah. Were like solar opposites their DADS would have been cool. I didn't get like. Going back to the time shifting and stuff like showing up everywhere like. They make a point that. Ted's dad still doesn't believe him. The therapist doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. But then at the same time where we're supposed to believe that. Historical figures are jumping around time and then Shit's getting out of place in that sense. So no one. In. Society seen any of this no one's questioning any of this is not out there that they are these years from the first two movies. Fucking Gandhi just fucking shows up on the of the fuck and freeway and nobody flocking. Nobody is. I. Show what was it like, Washington, crossing the Delaware and then Jesus walking on the water in front of him. That was Kinda funny for a split moment. The whole concept of why did The. They call themselves the people from the future, the group that's trying to make this happen. Yeah. Why couldn't they just go to the damn time? That they needed to go to for the song I don't understand how they don't know when it is. If they are from the future, they should know all of this information. I'd probably looking too far into it but like. These are the copies of it. Bothered me too. I was thinking about it too. It's like it's like it's like these people know that this song changes. You know the entire world society, but it's none of these people have fucking hurt it though you know. took a black spot that they can't use time travel to visit for. Everything else they can know about they totally changed his story to the song was just supposed to reunite everybody and then they and they make a joke about it that Oh that's new that it changes reality. It's like reality in the whole. World basically came in upon itself or whatever, and they acknowledged that and whatever. But. I. Don't know I feel like I'm with Stephen This this movie contradicts the first. First two movies and. Basically makes bill and Ted kind of like. Not. The. Not. The hero of the story that they were originally and I don't know fuck that. Yeah. Fuck. That man. I lost a lot when they announced how long they had to make the song and it was exactly how much longer the movie was. Yeah. Good low. You have seventy seven minutes or whatever it was. I kept thinking, fuck we got seventy five more minutes of this. Did Not. Unite your world. My God, I'm I love and I hate to be fucking like Debbie Downer on this one for people that did love it and I. I'm sorry if the hatred for this movie is dominant, my hatred for this movie is dominating this podcast. So tell you what I'll shut up and I'll let everybody tell me what they loved about the movie does it'll be a big fucking love fest a big fucking orgy like at the end of the movie where everybody was playing their fucking music together big fucking or fucking music and love and big fucking festival. You tell me. Tell me what you loved about this what Paula J. The biggest thing to me was just seeing Alex Winter Cannery is just seamlessly become these characters again I mean that just gave me a lot of smiles throughout the whole movie. And to back off that I really like it was kind of fun. Especially Steven's said, it may be a disservice to watch the first over and over again. But like in those first two he is. Reeves's so optimistic as Ted into Kinda see that drain out of Kim becoming. The the alcoholic and losing his wife and kids like to me it really made the stakes. A lot higher just to see that drastic shift in his personality. kind of give it a sense of urgency and realism. So yeah I definitely like seen returning to the characters of bill and Ted like I love their chemistry and just kind of. How much the world has changed them. So yeah, I definitely got to piggyback off of Jake on that. Yeah, I agree I like the future stuff like when Ted was talking about selling his guitar, it gave me like a tinge of depression. Yeah, the less pot. For. Me I would have I would have preferred this movie in just scrap the daughters altogether and fucking have and I know this is going to call for a huge budget but like Just have like. Da Age Alex winner and canneries in have the old versions of them interact with the younger versions of them. Though to been cool and have them work together. Their way they've lost their way and then the younger versions of them kind of like. Inspire them to to to write this song the younger versus of them see like what they've become. And it Kinda kicks them in the ASS. And Dylan Ted by the end of it right that fucking Song I just I just everything here is just like. Everything just everything I did not want to see from this franchise they just. Totally. I know that they did this out of love and I know that they thought that they did the right thing here like you know the only way to really reunite the world is the have the the whole world you know kind of join in and have a jam session and whatever. But. I don't have any. We saw Jesus play Cowbell so true. Man It just didn't work for me. I'm sorry I really wish that the this this movie did and but I did love Dennis Kayla Decoy. That's that's the one shining bright spot of this film for Me Status Kayla McCoy. Of I, do have to say that we have a lie agency here Milwaukee and one of the actors they use almost all their commercials is to do that place Ted's Dad. In all three movies all of a sudden out of nowhere at the end of this Abraham commercials like go see bill and Ted face the music for our very own bubble bomb like, oh, that's kind of funny. So there's at. Well Fuck I haven't seen that, but I temporary those commercials Paul about that. I was surprised at actor wasn't dead. When as soon as I saw him I like wow he's still around to be in this movie and he's still like an act of. Like going to the crime scenes, he's the advertisers age. I tell tell me your favorite scenes where you know they got the musical figures from the past. Tell me your favorite Ling lung scene and your favorite. Scene The cavewoman woman tell me tell me about those. Tell me about those because I'd love I'd fucking love to hear him. Ohno. Should have shown Graham esl phone I thought it was interesting when Louis Armstrong was Kinda fascinated by it I what would chroma thought of that damn thing? They should've went back to nineteen ninety one and shown me this fucking movie on a phone and I would have thrown the thing on the damn ground because this is a traffic. I hate being like this I hate. I hate being like this. I hate it when I absolutely hate a movie because I know that there are people that watch this and absolutely loved it and I feel like my hatred and Stevens Hatred for this movie. Is it pure hatred from you steven or is it just me? Period I was extremely disappointed, but like I feel if. People really enjoy these characters that I could see. A portion of them enjoying this film I just was so wrapped up in the details and how long it took the make this that I just felt like. How was this came up with and that's It contradicts everything in my opinion you brought up that you like the idea of them going back in time till I assume the first movie is out you were saying. Yeah to bill and Ted from the first movie like. It could definitely be them like. Endgame Concept Inst- Yes like when fine with that story, which would make way more sense because that was the one that was. Fueling the concept that they were gonNA save the world. So when they go back when when Bill Tad, go back to the circle K. and they see themselves and You know I guess you could totally do back to the future thing here where you know like Mardi comes back Mardi literally just sense. DACHSHUNDS Mardi back. To One, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty five, and then we've got another marty that just runs up on him and he fucking. Great Scott passes out you know I mean. It could have been a scene where bill and Ted Joe Forget to wind your watch and then they leave and fucking old bill and Ted Comeback. And Talk to them right at that moment and they're like, Dude, you've got bigger problems than winding your watch Blah Blah Blah and. I think that that would have been so much more fun. I know that the budget would have been unreal though doing the de aging and all that kind of stuff. But I I honestly think that that would have been a more. It would have been way more fun than than what we got here. If they really wanted to fuck in. You know I'm not a writer I'm not a writer. I'm just throwing out ideas but but I think that that would have been if if you really want to like. A. Fiddle that fucking nostalgic Clinton fucking do this man you know fucking flick that being around a little bit instead of the. Their their. Daughters Theodore and whatever the fuck. Jesus Christ get the fuck. OUTTA here. I'm sorry those those two actors that played the daughters are way better than these rules. So I don't know man. They recast the princesses. Intentionally. Because they did that the second movie. UNREASON. In the back end of production. I'm. Who knows I mean? I. They probably recast them because they wanted to bring in people that have been working. You know. I don't think. It's one of those things it's it's kind of like the recast of Elizabeth. Shue in the second back to the future movie. Know, she had a bigger role, so they got to have A. Bigger. A bigger actor to take on that role. So I mean I don't know about the other two actors that that. The the first movie. I mean. The two princesses like one I. The only other movie I remember one of the princesses was was the last the last American virgin she was in that movie. And then. They didn't have huge careers and the second movie. I couldn't tell you what those. Princesses have done sense. And so they brought in. A couple I don't know couple bigger named COMEDIANS. It's been a while since I've seen either of the first two and I couldn't even told you that this was recast. Elf God yeah. They got the they got the women's looking. They got the woman from Children's Hospital and. Surgery done these days I I didn't. That's true. ME. Sorry hated, toss it absolute Tyson for be tough tupperware. From Paul, hi taste from Jake and a low taste Steve. Everything for this movie guide. Yeah. We just we ran the gamut when it came to the fucking ratings on this fucking thing. I. Pretty well, though I think raw tomato has around eighty low eighty percent good good I and I'm glad I'm happy for the people that did enjoy this movie. And it's not like I'm a fucking. I'm not going to get on any. I'm so happy that people lettuce we I'm not GonNa get on anybody for liking this movie. It's just for me. It just did not. It did not work and it was pretty evident that it was not working. I'd say about fifteen to twenty minutes in I was just like off faulk. Early on that, I felt like it was just Not what I wanted it to be. But. I think YANNA REEVES HAS A. Real. Back in right now with popularity that I feel like. The overall audience whether they're fans of bill and Ted or not were probably going to enjoy this film just because he's the thing right now. Yeah. Yeah, I agree and you know. I'm just glad that these guys got a chance to make it. You know they've been wanting to make it. They made it. It's out there. And I kept saying like I kept saying I kept saying I've even said it on a show like this is movie ain't GonNa ruin the first two it's just fucking Bill Tad and here I am here I I am. Eating Crow on that statement and basically saying this movie destroyed the first two Phelps it. This is this is the rise of skywalker. Comes to fucking trilogies. There are billeted facie music or as I say fuck the franchise billeted fuck the franchise. The franchise they're gonNA have to write a song to unite after this review. go back in time. Yeah. Let's go back in time. You know why it's because extreme wasn't on the soundtrack. That's why it was for you. Brad fucking. Song rocks though. Play. You said play like it's The fucking warriors movie. To Come out and play. The Coke Bottles Yeah Oh My. Fuck Warriors Crepe fucking movie. Oh that's an amazing movie. It's even better video game to I've never I've never played the video game I knew there was a video game I was just going to mention that it's a better video game than the movie. Takes place six months before the movie. So you're like the warriors and you're gaining the gang street cred. So you're late breaking into businesses and all that share, your your retaliate, and a big part of it is you have to like do graffiti on like local businesses, and then it leads you up to the actual movie and it's got cut scenes of. Cyrus and all that Shit like and you play to the end of the movie. It's fucking awesome. You get to interchange as different gang members. So cool can. I hold on. Can you do good I love that. Oh. My God oh. So good. Yeah. Steve I'd say. Like because it is a Rockstar Game A. Is Rockstar Okay Yeah. It's a total rockstar game. It pretty much like the whole. Like ten play for like how do the controls and stuff and kind of like you know stealing cars and all that shit. So Yeah. Thank you ask Jake I, think it's PS two era that this game Mech game came out thousand five I believe is when I came out I, remember the commercials for it but I never played it. Man, that was fucking awesome. I still. Every once in a while dust off the PS two pop that back in. It's so good. Oh, my God does you know a game, I? HAVE WE'RE GONNA end this we're done talking about bill attack. Did you ever play? What was it met alarms on Xbox? I'm not familiar with that. Jake would love it is a little fucking robot and you go around and shoot shit. I feel like a contra of no no, it's not like. It's not like a side scrolling. It's Kinda. More like A. While you're kind of thing but like small-scale. Now now you get. I'm that. You gotta stay. I haven't regularly played video games fifteen fucking years the. Metal arms my question, it's called medal arms and it was from a company and I think the only made like one fucking game and it was this game and it's a beautiful fucking game. It was so much fun met alarms. Yeah look. Met Alarms. The same people that did like kings quest and space quest and those fucking games. Share. I, remember those games don't you apparently. Larry to you're familiar with that. Oh, no shit. Oh Jake Jake I only have one episode left of high score. On. Netflix. All. I'm loving Sabi Street fighter two. I did I did watch that. Man, that was maybe my favorite episode. So fantastic I enjoyed the doom episode. That was the last one. That's the last one isn't it? I believe. So that is so I knew about that one. Are, rated game where like you're kind of like they're using real actors and Shit I didn't know about night trap know what? The fuck out. I. Bought night trap for five bucks did switch. INTO VIDEO Games until they graduated high school did you even have jake? Did you ever play that fucking live action video game where it was like you know it was like night trap or sewer shark or Ground Zero Texas, but Corrie Hayme was. So familiar. What was that? I can't remember the name of that game was I'm sure I could just type in Corey hayme video game on Google and it would give me the answer but I used to play that fucking thing too. I rented that I rented night trap played night trap double switch double switch. That's what it was called double switch. Story video game came out in nineteen, ninety three for the Sega Sadder. Intervention that you see it came out on CD. Played it. Yeah Yeah I remember seeing this game but I don't think I ever played it. Yeah. I rented it. Deborah Harry's in it. Yourself. Wow. Domo switch twenty fifth anniversary edition just came out for the switch last year. Oh, no. Shit. Yeah, I remember that. Began ounce of people were like not happy about it because of the implications of the game or something. You know our culture right now. What are the implications of the game tell me somebody didn't. Get kissed by rose on the grave in that game. I think that's what. That's That's not the exact which I was expecting. I haven't played the game, but I believe there was like an issue of Lake. Implication of. Forcing yourself on a woman or something in the game. Dark fucking turn from bill and Ted face the music. This is the game like they had actual actors. They recorded stuff right and then your sticky night trap. Yeah. Yeah we were talking about we moved on to switch the Corey Haim version of night my bad my bad. Now I know exactly what senior talking about. This episode is falling apart. Correct camera and trap busted in this I think we all know who just got kissed by a rose on the grave. Our listeners? All right. Listen this guy stakes for listening to this one stay tuned. We're going to go through fucking review for. The New Mutants Josh Boone movie. Yeah For years later. And then and then check out the regular episode where everybody can listen. What are we at three forty, seven? Sounds right? Isn't that listen to that? Shit that motherfucker I'll check that mother fucker out. I typed in Corey hayme game controversy in somebody on a message board put the controversies that he's in a game. I'm surprised you got any results, but that's about the best you could get. Man. That's the highlight of this episode. Thank you. was. TATION. Cursing puberty. Power. I told. You discover your true major. Hey, welcome to a bonus. Of The new mutants movie that we're going to be discussing this is out in theaters and I know not everybody has theaters opened near them and I know that everybody is wanting to attempt even going to the theaters. Jake I went to the theater and saw this one didn't buy any snacks drink kept my fucking mask on the entire time. Yeah we went to the first showing of the movie which was actually the first showing of any movie our local theatre had shown and months. And same. Yeah. Mask on the whole mood. Not risking it. At all. So you know I just wanted to make sure I mean snacks whatever I mean popcorn whatever fuck it. I'm not doing it I went to another theater today and. I bought the popcorn they haven't in the bags you can take it home and that's what I did. That's what I did. I. Took it fucking home with me and I can eat it in the theater but guess what? Hey, we're not alone I'm talking about snacks and movie theaters and Blah Blah Blah. We are not alone. We're joined on this episode by Quinton Roberts of the real. Zodiac podcasts walking Quinton. Thank you so much for having me on man and I was Kinda hoping you would keep talking about snacks because Dude I love getting those frigging cookie dough by its I. Get them every single out every single time. Dude. You can actually go to the dollar store has the generic ones you can get and just sneak them in. Dude I don't even think about that. My popcorn man duty oh yeah. I like the milk duds popcorn thing. Oh. Yeah that's good. That's good. Shit I'm I got. into the von today and they got gourmet popcorn that they make their and I got it was blueberry chocolate. Yum, actually really fucking God really. Chocolate, kind of overpowers the blueberry. So when you eat the blueberry ones, it still smells like chocolate. So it still tastes like chocolate. That's unfortunately around. House. Delicious. Very, very good. I. Don't know maybe they should have just went. Blueberry muffin popcorn and just call it that and just gave. Yeah. Anything would blueberry MU- fuck dude. I could just eat there. Now have you ever had just like the Blueberry Muffin. Tops the just the MUFFIN top they sell them all. God because they have those. We call bread. Cobo Panara. Yeah. Oh. Yeah Yeah Yeah Bread Company Yeah Saint. Louis. Yeah it's the same thing as Pinera. New and you're listening you're like, I'm when are they going to get new mutants? We will we're going to get there this is. Just friends talking about snacks into get angry about. If you get angry at France talk about snacks. That's weird. Number. Wherever the th that should be the least your problem I now. These I hated it because these friends were talking about snacks the beginning of the gas now, chill out. It's we're going to talk about new moons. We got plenty of time to talk about new mutants. We'll briefly go. The new mutants film without spoilers, and we're going to give a rating for it, and then after that after we rate it. We're GONNA UNPACK IT and dive into full on spoilers with this one and so I will give the official spoiler warning when we do jump into spoilers now the. Is. I feel like it's a movie we've been waiting on for years. I think I remember seeing posters for this one in the theaters. Teasing the teaser poster. I. Think I remember seeing that almost three years ago late twenty seventeen because it was originally supposed to come out in April of. Twenty Eighteen Yeah it's been a long time. It's been years since we reviewed the trailer for this movie. And then yeah I think about like how? These actors, it's literally three four three years later since they since they filmed this one mazy. Did, she film this before the finale gave throats. Yes. I thought that was the most. She's the actress. I'm most familiar with in this cast and that was very noticeable. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I know man I'm very familiar with her but. There's also some. Of, course, we get. I'll just get into it. The directors, Josh Boone. He wrote he he wrote and directed the fault in our stars. Did he write the screenplay for that one? Doesn't matter He also wrote this one with nightly stars Maisy Williams on your Taylor joy a big fan of hers loved her and thoroughbreds I just think she's fantastic. Has such a weird beauty to her doesn't she? She's got like that Uma Thurman Kinda like her eyes are so far apart look. Yeah. Yeah. She also orbits. She looks like if you took like one of the The guelph links from the dark crystal and like did a Pinocchio thing where you made them a real boy she would be like a real gal fling in real life. She looks like a fucking dark elf link a dark crystal gambling come to life. I never thought about that but that's exactly correct. Yeah. I think all the character models was made after her right. I can't I can't I can't go along with that she. She's the dark crystal is much older than her ice percent. I honestly think she was joke now's go path. She was born of the dark crystal like when that movie came into fruition that movie gave birth, it bore her into the world. Charlie Heaton from Stranger Things Alice. Braga blue. Hunt and Henry Saga. Boone and Lee, I began working on this movie after the fault in our stars. And they. Pretend they pitched. A trilogy. Of Movies that they pitch to Simon Kinderg-. And In May of two thousand fifteen, they were officially signed on to this, and then they started doing all the casting and then we got the box acquisition from Disney and this movie was kind of limbo. Everybody was saying just release it on. Hulu. Just release it on Disney plus just do this do that, and apparently there was a deal in place that this had all the Fox movies that were filmed before the big acquisition had to be released the actually, which is why we got dark phoenix in the theater, which is why we got this in the theater it had to be released the ethical and I think this has been a success with them in the theater i. Didn't win. It made a lot of money for them. I think it's GonNa win the week probably. Had a really good preview preview day on Thursday and. Friday too. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know about you guys but I got really emotional just here in the twentieth century Fox fanfare at the beginning of the movie. Every yeah everything's well, that's all changing. It's not like they're not showing. Twentieth Century Fox. Now, it's twentieth century films I think. I didn't even. See and when you go to. I went to a Fox searchlight film and it was I can't remember the name of the movie but it was the Will Ferrell Julia Louis Dreyfuss gnome. Where they're out there Looking. Before that movie started that was a Fox searchlight film and they took Fox out said searchlight films and so yeah, it's all changing. But. I guess we'll just kind of go into this one. I just want to rate it. So if this is your first time listening. We want you to be familiar with our rating system. I'll give this synopsis on this one. I might as well give the synopsis on this one. which. It's five young mutants, just discovering their abilities while held in a secret facility against their will fight to escape their past sins and save themselves. So we're going to go ahead and read it, and here's our rating system. The rating system is simple if the leftovers don't like something, they toss it. If they do something, they suggest you tasted and if it's brilliant, a gets a tupperware rating if all the leftovers love it, then it gets the pinnacle of success. A tupperware party are going to start off with our guest quinton. What did you think about the new mutants? What are you going to rate this one? Yes. So doing this without spoilers i. Was Very. Lukewarm about actually seen the film. So I didn't really care too much. I kinda bought tickets to see it. because. I wanted to see a movie theaters because this was the first movie I've seen since like February in theater. So I don't know I was a little high for that but. With all of all of that going in and just kind of like how I wasn't really excited for the movie itself. I was pleasantly surprised like I'm GONNA have to give this for me a really high tasted like it's not a Tupperware, but it's really high taste that there is a lot of stuff I really enjoyed in this film that I like I said I just didn't expect to enjoy. New Mutants. But I did so I don't know if I'm going to be alone in this. But yeah, I'm GONNA have to just go with the high tasted. High tastes it from Quinton and. Jake. I know this was. You're pretty high on this movie. You were pretty high on the first trailer. You were pretty high on like what you thought. The direction was that they were going for in this movie which. I don't know man I don't know if they stuck to that vision. I didn't parts and other parts they didn't. But what did you think about the new mutants? Yeah. Yeah I was pretty high in the trailer I. Just liked the idea of doing this with more of horror bent and. I kind of wish this would have just gone full blown are though I think it really needed. It was just in the middle of the road tasted for me. I thought it was enjoyable. It wasn't total fucking Drek but. I, it could have been a lot better I thought blue hunt who was basically The lead I would say that played moon scar was absolutely fucking terrible I thought she really brought the movie down hurt her acting was not good in my opinion and she had to carry a lot of the dramatic weight going on throughout this entire movies and honestly I think any other of these actors? Could. Have done a better job carried in that way and being the lead It wasn't that the writing was bad. It was her performances just didn't sell any of this very serious stuff that was happening to her to me. So that was kind of a letdown but yeah, middle of the road tasted. Pack this I and I do wish it would've been a full blown or our movie I. Think this would have been a lot more fun and the materials definitely there. I feel like you took the words right out of my mouth when it comes to Blue Hunt, she was my least. Favorite part of this movie. She there's the and it's it's it's her acting, and then there's like just even her like physical acting like there's a part when when. This is not a huge spoiler but this part when she's talking to a doctor and the you know there's there's chaos going on around. You know the facility that they're at and she's left in this room. After she's been. Under and trying to you know recall things that had happened. You know earlier in her pass to the doctor and she comes out of this state. This this kind of like hypnotic state. And she walks out and she's all walk in like. Sideways. Like she's having a hard time like finding her bearings and it just looks so natural and I know it's not supposed to be a natural way of like you're not supposed to look natural when you're like, you know coming out of something like that but it looked really bad and not only and I'm not saying like Oh it's that one scene. It's that one scene that really made her like you know stand out as the. As the worst, there's the dramatic stuff and and you're right like a lot of the weight was carried on her in this movie because it was such a huge role. But I thought that she brought the movie down I thought that they should've probably cast a larger net as far as casting Danny Moon Star than just settling on Blue Hunt I don't think she did very well and I think. I don't know man I think they would have figured this out. A week or two into filming and just been like, okay. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA Eric Stoltz this like back to the future and we're gonna I just you know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA cast Michael J. Fox now or something they should have recasts recast our and kept everyone else. I thought I thought Charlie Heaton was fine. But they didn't really explore. There's characters that they explored more than others and I felt like. You could have explored some of these characters a little bit more. I felt like he did not get a lot of exploration with his character. So I'm going to give it just I'm being generous here. I'm going to give it a solid taste it because I was not. One Hundred Percent Board in this movie messy, it was messy. And? I don't think it's anything. I'll ever watch again unless it's clips because I did for the most part. Love certain scenes and we'll get into those but I was pleasantly surprised with. On Your Taylor joy as magic. I think I still think it could have been better. But they gave me a lot more than I thought I would get with that character and if you've listened before, she's my favorite female. X. Men character. and. I I love her I. Think She's just an incredible character and. I think for the most part they did she did a pretty good job with that character. But I'll give it a solid tasted. So I guess we can go ahead and jump in the spoilers I'm GonNa play the spoiler warning and we're gonNA impact this one. so I mean. Were there parts that were just confusing to you like as far as like some of the things that were going on. In. The movie like. I think like the like the final act where the action started to ramp up was was was cool. But I think it came off a little confusing it I I don't know I might be alone there. Yeah like in what way in like in what Dr raised was actually doing a responsible for was that the confusing part? A little bit like I understood it started to come to me at first it was just a little confusing started to come to me but it was like, okay Oh, she's responsible for the force fields and Like. And