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Episode 36: Ashlea Ann Harris

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Episode 36: Ashlea Ann Harris

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The thing is that sad is like they can't see your is like. Yeah. To give him some subliminal messaging while recording. All right. But I'm gonna tell you guys what the politics fries. Fries. It's happy that appreciation day. I like that. Are there any? Well, you've got Batman. Of course, you've got considered the world's greatest detective and some people will argue that Trillo combs is the world's greatest detective. They have met in the comics before. But I do like that. But also, it is national cheese ball day, which is you. I'm a ball tree. You're totally issues. Pat, maybe like cheese to know your boy crash man crush. Jerry is a cheese all sees the biggest cheese. Here's a cheese ball, Jerry. Billy Jerry, where we're where is he? Jared is currently on tour like where where's he though? We currently on the plane and route to Europe right now, during little European stint in stint. Okay. But it is also national book mobile day. Do you guys remember the bookmobile? I do. Yes. Book fairs. It was, but it came on, like, okay Motors bring. Yeah. It was like the ice cream man. Yes. Yeah. But with books, and that's also scheming, they're not doing that anymore. And it's also librarians to now. So it's a very like a literate literature for heavy day. I'm into that. I like the cheese balls the best. I would love a Cheetos cheese puffs. Ooh, not doesn't sound good. He wanted to go you snack on, oh, badly. I know really. We need we need some crunchy snacks are holding off on sax. Okay. So I'm keeping on the train of bad reviews. Today's about review. Comes from Alexandra N dot e, I'm just gonna really call these people out. Okay. This subject is it can be better. You do a podcast and tell me how easy it is. I don't know how hard it is to do a podcast, you know, much researcher, at least a week, the are episode just reading about it before we even dive into making it to our interview on the phone. Yeah. And then scheduling us. You know what is she Alexandra pros? The stories are different in has a great perspective with the guests that actually knew the victims or murderers. Yes cons most of these stories are taking too long to tell I keep yelling in the car. Get to the point already. I don't wanna hear your long opinions. One woman takes too many breaks between words. We know that just being Zaidi that would be me Alexis. I think the group needs to work on storytelling a bit because the story lines are broken apart too much of the pinions. I really wanna keep listening to the podcast. So that's why I'm providing feedback it has too much so much potential. But I think at a later date, okay? I have to say, I appreciate the feedback appreciate the feedback. However, our podcast is like a mix of storytelling mix of opinions mixed with banter mixed with, like a little bit of like Billy's experience and like my experience and my non experience. What you experience life in the weirdness that it is. But here's the thing, there are different types of pot. If you'd like to not as hot too. That is a scripted one. You can listen to scale you can listen to true crime garage. You can listen to case file. There are a lot of other podcasts that if you want the story or like a Wikipedia entry. That's those are. That's not our podcast. Right. That is not our podcast. You didn't even know what the story was until ten minutes ago. I did not know until ten minutes ago. So yes, relax. Rely on Billy for his opinion because he doesn't really know or doing, but he's an expert. Yes. And we're going to be like, hey, here's the crime. You're like. I know there's also this other Kremlin nineteen sixties is studied, religious studies, and I have a reference that way too. And paul. That's is that what? I'm principle other way. I solve a murder in Paul's and theology. And that. And that. Article once and I really, really the article and I like the impart for those of you who say we make fun of Billy, I've never seen Billy happier than when he's with a Philly thrives in this environment. And he knows what he's on. Bart four go. I'm no one. Even hold has got to his head to come back every week. I love getting trashed ice him down a peg in needs. It turns on. You're saying was up right now. So if you're into it anyways, should we get into work as like this? I think so. But it will say woman in not in the comment in the battery view. Yes. Breathes weird. I mean if you listen you've already heard me breathing is to stay alive. And if you're not on board then you want me to die, then you're. And I can't have that. But I really appreciate your criticism. Listen, Alexis can't die because the podcast would die with her. That is true seriously. If Alexis dawn. Building that if Alexis. Yeah, we probably would have a good podcast. We would not about crying. Would be about crime. We would just be making out the entire. Alexis league letter shouldn't be stopped, but could be what then you just haven't make out Jacksonville. That's a real ASA Marsha. So if that's what you guys rumbled for somebody coming. Honestly, would that not be the best ending to the first degree pot? If you tied and billion. I talked about it. T-shirt Alexis linkletter must be SOPs already happening. But, like ding Dong Alexis glitter. Glitters dead is a little morbid for me kind of like it, though. But nobody do it, please. Nobody do that. And we yes. I do not want to put the last chapter of my book being that. No. Then you'd have to solve my murder and. It could be a whole new book, by the way, chase doctors with me as out right now at Audubon dot com or Amazon, so yeah. Yeah. And that's when it comes out and print maybe by then, because MU Giacobbi shot in the buck. Do have a shadow on the book about it. But let's just get started. You've seen the shadow you haven't see the shadow now you told me about it. I told you I told you about the shot up, but you haven't seen it. What does that? It's good. Why don't you say tell everybody it's so she's she's. Power. Here's what I say. I say. To Alexis linkletter for helping me sore. In for Jack Vanik for keeping me grounded tie. It knocks him off that high horse. I'm like, you're not cool. Nobody cares. Exactly. So a lot of people care. But I like to pretend that nobody does. We let you belly. We're happy for you and everybody you'd better by book. Yes. I don't know if it's good yet because I haven't read it. But I'm dude can write though, so. All right. Let's for real against started. So today's case sorry Alexandra for ten minutes of the beginning. Yeah. Sorry for the battery said you didn't want. But this is who we are. This is awesome on. Right. And if not, there's like a million other like we love, please. Listen, but if you named three I just want you to be happy, if you're not into it, I want you to be happy, exactly. I do. So this case to day takes us to Dallas Fort Worth area, and it's the day after thanksgiving November twenty eighth twenty fourteen which is known in the retail world as to lack on Friday, the worst day, the air or the best, depending, if you're a thrifty shopper, so you guys today's first degree connection is Sarah, and she is going to tell us how her experience relating to our case today. Kind of unfolded from her perspective. I started working at American Eagle in October of twenty fourteen. I'm when I thirty going to graduate school. And I was looking for a job to kind of have to make some extra money on the side, and I was actually going to graduate school for forensic genetics on renting scientists and that actually shortly into working there. He was one of demand. And so she was one of the people that trained me all my managers were so nice. I remember actually being extremely kind and helpful and funny feed on could be with serious when she had to be because she was a manager. But he was definitely a fun person to be around. I remember our laugh to just definitely a funny funny person, and I really enjoyed learning from her and being able to work with her. So the fire department is called on the morning of November twenty eighth. Two thousand fourteen there summoned to a Fort Worth apartment complex at the forty seven hundred bucks Kenwright king ranch, and the person on the call. So they believed the apartment above his was on fire because his carbon monoxide detector was going nuts. The water was leaking from the ceiling and dripping into his apartment. But when the firefighters arrived, they find a small fire, and they're expected to find something, you know, they're, they're firefighters they're expecting to, to, to put out a fire, but what they find in the bedroom that apartment is the body of thirty one year old Ashley Harris. So I didn't hear anything until I believe it was done day, and I got up phone call from human resources. And so I answered the phone them Sunday. I remember because I was doing homework for school, and they got a phone call. And they said, we just wanted this is American Eagle human resources. And we just wanna let you know, that your manager actually heritz passed away this, he then and they may specify today, and I said, what happened, you know what could possibly happen? I just saw her, you know, a couple of days ago, and they just said that there was a fire in her apartment. That's all these holding. And so I don't know because I was going to graduate school for friends or what? But just something in my head that, that the there had to be some more to this story. And Sara's instincts were right. Because what be fire department and firefighters discovered when they entered ashes apartment and found her it was anything but a normal house fire casualty situation. Her feet and hands have been bound with duct tape our bodies face down on the floor at the foot of the bench. She has obvious trauma to her face her her head her neck or throat. Her body is partially burned, along with civil areas of the bedroom are burned, including her mattress, and there was also an empty bottle of rubbing alcohol, that was found near her body, and the firefighter said that it appeared that the fire was started using exceleron. And they figured out, you know, that this is probably somebody that was trying to start a fire for a murder scene, and we need to bring in the homicide. Detectives, right. So. Pilar Ramirez, who has a Fort Worth police crime scene investigator was one of the first arrive on the scene at around nine AM him and the other officers were trying to wrap their heads around what they were dealing with there was this fire on top of this gruesome scene of murder. It was a whole lot to take in at once and one of actually's neighbors till the police that he had heard a thump in screaming from the apartment of few hours earlier. And when the apartment was examined closely the identified what appeared to be bloodstains on the floor bed, Rilling and the door. They took swabs of all the stands, and they packed them to be sent to the crime lab for analysis. And I just want to make a little. No, it's very interesting. Like you have an apartment, she lived in department companies like you hear noises. And you don't think anything of that screens. Billy yelling sometimes. And it's interesting when you put things into perspective when something actually happens. And so I just really did a quick Google search and it was immediately on the news. It was already they're already knew stories about the fire and how he had been found and that it was being investigated as a homicide. And I kind of thought that it was a bit a third that they didn't tell me wouldn't come e you know, that there was an investigation pending regarding how she died. And, you know, they said grief counseling, available eight and everything. But I just feel like that. What seemed a bit a little more youthful Hemi had they, given you the full story over the phone, but I was a bet that said they didn't tell me that. And so I found out really from Google, and then when I finally got to work, whenever I went to work nuts, you know, talking with my other managers and, and thing they were saying what they had. Her. It was definitely unsettling to hear that, you know, my safety at work could have been compromised, but I really found out all of it from the internet from news articles. And I think that was even more unsettling to me event that, that that information wasn't really given to us in an official kind of way. I just got my hair dyed, and I would be dreading that time in a couple of weeks when my hair would start feeding and looking really dole, but I don't have to think to one of our sponsors living proof, which we freakin love the scientists living proof had found a way to make hair color last twice as long and look and feel healthier at the same time. It's called color care from living proof. And I freaking love it. So caller care is an innovative, three products system that starts with the shampoo and conditioner. They form an invisible shield that protects your color from washing out, and plus like all living proof products. They make your hair, look and feel healthier which protects your color from bathing. And when your color, eventually does start to fade simply use living proof super, cool color care, whipped glazes. They come in two different shades one for highlights and blondes one for darker shades, and redhead. So there's one for everybody and these awesome glazes have temporary dies. It make your hair color. Not only lasts longer, but. Also make your hair richer, and more vibrant. So if you want to try them out, go to living proof dot com slash I and use promo code I to get a free sample of their ward winning dry shampoo with your purchase, again, that's living proof dot com slash I and use promo code I. The investigators observed what turned out to be Ashley's wallets on the bathroom counter, and strangely. It had two five dollar bills inside which immediately suggested to them that they're not dealing with a robbery here, because with such an overt obvious display of money, you'd think it was a criminal would just willy nilly take it. So. If robbery wasn't the motive here for this horrific crime than what was it? And. You know, they were investigating and trying to figure out what that was and meanwhile, the medical examiner's were able to come and tentatively identify Ashley Harris by her tattoos. So they were able to then determine that she had suffered blunt force trauma to her face and head, and trauma related to strangulation on her neck and throat, which likely was the cause of her death. And her throat was also slit, which is terrible, so immediately the detectives wanted to speak with everyone and Ashley's life because that's how they begin their investigations. They start close. They work their way outward. So obviously that included, I or family that our friends neighbours co workers, so on so forth. So it's at this point that they learned that Ashley was actually in an assistant manager at the American Eagle outfitters store at the Hulan mall, which was less than ten minutes from her apartment. So they start analyzing the scene the police, and they noticed that there's no forced entry. So that's the first or no forced entry. Ashley's next door neighbor and friend named Alexis Torres. She tells the police that Ashley often left her apartment or unlocked when friends were going to tend to her golden retriever named now. And Ashley also plan to work late on thanksgiving night, because black Friday Sam, the, the black Friday sale actually started on Thursday, because that's what we keep doing me. Keep moving the black Friday sale up and up Wednesday. And then then it's gonna happen in August or whatever. So Alexis had actually agreed to check on Ashley's dog for her. And she said, quote, I would kind of Catholic is that the door was unlocked by using my keys and pretended to unlock and lock her door. So she would kind of when she was going into the door she would like pretend that she was unlocking the door, and then open it. And then when she would close it to pretend that she was locked that, if anybody else exacting see it. Right. And she said she had planned to take breakfast to Ashley Friday morning, after a long work night, and was surprised when she didn't respond to her text message. Alexis decided to go to Ashley's apartment anyway, because they were good enough friends for that kind of thing. So they were just like all right. I'm just going to check respond, but I'm still going that fast which I would do to your job. Right. Thank you. So this explain why there was no four century, because the door was open. She's attackers were likely inside waiting for her when she got there or they snuck in and the ambassador when she got there. Right. So the police spoke to the neighbors who lived on either side and below Ashley when they questioned further the original neighbor, who called nine one one told the investigators that as far as the fire alarm, and Ashley's apartment was going off. He looked outside his window, and he saw lack two-door and windy g thirty five which fun fact is car. I had in high school really. But it's silver will unit Mercedes and we lived together like in two thousand eight how'd Infinity, g twenty and g thirty five in high school. I like in a rap song. Cool. All right. We're older. So there was this black Tudor INFINITI g thirty five leaving from the parking spot in front of Ashley's apartment with its lights off. He says it's car that he'd never seen before. So obviously, hate took note of that being there. The police then moved onto speaking with Ashley's team at American Eagle. The cops wanted to speak with them all of them to dig up info on who may have wanted to hurt her. But they also had to notify them that Ashley's keys had been stolen. This is important because Ashley had not only the keys to the store, but also the keys to the stores safe on her keychain, and it was the only thing that was saying, so glaring piece of evidence, right and the higher ups at American Eagle decided to change all the locks on at the store, and of course, of course, the attention is on the loss of their employees. But it just it seems like commonsense. If the only thing that's lost in stolen from this apartment during this homicide is the keys. What kind of weird malice shit are are we dealing with here? So. The police go to speak with the co workers, and with the higher ups, and all of that, in our kind of dealing with us in a learn from Ashley's co workers that Ashley had worked the night before, from five thirty pm November twenty seven to about three twelve AM the twenty eighth in preparation for the stores. Black Friday sales. We opened at six on thanksgiving evening. And so I work from six PM on thanksgiving into the night, so-, I working until I was supposed to work until three AM and Ashley was working that night as well. I think everybody has to work we needed kind of all hands on deck. And everyone was working and Ashley was the manager wants it people started to kind of Peter out in the middle of the night, and she actually let me leave early at two instead of three. So I believe that one that's all happened. She ended up giving after three thirty she got home at three twenty five AM and met with a friend who left her apartment around four forty a m this means that Ashley had been murdered sometime between four forty AM and seven thirty A M when the carbon monoxide detectors. Had gone off and her dancers neighbor's apartment and the water started coming through the ceiling. And that's again, where the when the, the firefighters came when after that call was made so word of what happens. What had happened to Ashley spread fifty of her friends more than fifty or friends, actually gathered outside of apartment. They have a vigil. They have a balloon release. They all cry the talk about Ashley. She was described as a friendly positive person. Love by many never talked elev-. Anybody? Her friend Christopher told the media that they all want to keep memory alive. She said, I think we should honor her and make sure the world knows what a great person she is. I just don't want what happened to her to go away, and they decorated the steps leading up to her apartment. They wrote messages on it on balloons and left flowers. Definitely in a lot of stock at birth. It was he with been nicest person. He you know, caring and funny, and I feel like I got a lot from my experiences being around her even though it would I such short on time, only about two months. And, you know, I feel like see had probably so much more to give to the world. And you know, she was only ever trying to do the right thing. But it was definitely it kind of was like a punch in the gut. It was a bit of a punch in the gut more than anything else. So the police are combing through every facet of Ashley's life. They're starting close and working their way outwards, like Lexus was saying before it didn't appear that Ashley had any enemies at all from the beginning. Everyone was talking about how wonderful she was and how good of a friend she was. And the police did learn something that caught their attention. When they were interviewing more of her co workers at American Eagle so on August twenty fourth three months prior to her death, the American Eagle that she was working at was burglarized. Ashley was the one that reported that one of the stores assistant managers as well as one of the stores employees we're could have been suspects in this burglary. The assistant manager was named Carter Savannah's surveying TASR. She was twenty seven years old. And the other employees was her boyfriend, Clarence David Mallory, and he went by David, and that's how we're going to refer to him in the story. Exactly. So apparently one night while Carter, we're gonna call them Carter and David from now harder. Full names. So one night while Carter was working enclosing the store of loan. She was seen on surveillance footage leaving whether it's intentional or accidentally leaving the back door of the store, unlocked in after the store closed a male in a hoodie is seen entering the store and going directly to the safe and unlocking it more than eighteen thousand dollars was stolen that night and this town occurred the night after a huge back to school sale that the store was having an in that case, the police suspected David used David Mallory, used it a safe key that Carter had stolen from another assistant manager while at work. And after the robbery, David who was an employee. He failed her. He never went back to work. He he missed the next three shifts and was fired. Which is the most obvious thing. You know, of course, you got that money not going back to work. Exactly, exactly. And so he never reported back to work. And of course, Ashleigh, who was another assistant manager there reported to the higher apps that she suspected that Carter in Clarence. They suspected that Carter and David were responsible and what's interesting is that actually really wanted to work for the stores loss prevention unit, like on a executives would have higher up level. And that's what she was working towards in. This is obviously the division that tries to stop theft, particularly internal theft. So she spent a lot of time reviewing this security video footage. And she's essentially the one that made the conclusion that David and Carter or the ones behind the theft. Ashley was killed. They had been killed in a terrible way. She was found in gagged and, and that they had that fire her apartment, one of my managers said that she had a feeling that she knew who killed her. And not it was probably the people that had previously stolen money from the store. Whispering wood basically that, you know, they had done money over the summer. I mean, I think it was eighteen thousand dollars. And I mean, not, not tempt chain, that's definitely still a significant amount of money, and that, they, I guess, were caught, and we're fired, and they weren't happy about that. But I had heard that learn David whatever his name is he, I think had lied to get a job at a different American Eagle after he was fired 'cause they were banned from being hired again. And I heard that he may have like his social security number or something to get hired at a different door after the fact. So I don't know the full details on that. But one of my managers said that she knew that he had done some shady stuff to try to get back in. So Carter suspended and she's later fired. And after the internal investigation into the theft at the stores. So she admits to these stores manager, that she had possibly left the back door unlocked, quote, she responded that she did not see what the big deal was. Because the law should be covered by insurance. Yeah. All right. So neither was charged nor arrested in the burglary, which is. You know that's one of the things that you see in retail stores. Okay. You know, we just want to be rid of it, but we don't get the authorities involved in it. And when you don't get the authorities involved in at something bad could happen. And this is what happens right here. One of the things where she's right? We're insurance didn't cover it. Yeah. You don't steal stuff. They couldn't think of their heads are like we can't prove it. It's a hoodie. It could have been anonymous honest mistake, leaving the door open. So they're like, whatever we're gonna fire. It's it's eighteen grand were pissed, but like might not have been worth the headache of, of pursuing more. And by the way, eighteen grand is a lot in the in the cough, for in cash in two thousand fourteen when so many people are using credit cards is pretty impressive for an American Eagle store, American Eagle jeans. I like them. Yeah. They stretch really likes to look at the three sixty stretch. They're awesome entries. Yeah. So how much we had American Eagle sponsoring this episode. Yeah. Exactly. We should have that. But there's they're not as a millionaires. Okay. So as the police were learning about all this, they wanted if this work situation, could possibly have anything to do with this brutal murder. And they weren't really sure because it seems like it would be. A pretty extreme escalation, yeah. To go from this theft to murder and but there was one detail about Carter, the author attention. They learned that Carter. Drove what a two door to door black and INFINITI g thirty five tight car, and they could find pictures of it on her Instagram because of course she posted up a her car. I just tell me. Oh, we'll still don't don't kill anybody. I mean don't kill right? Post pictures of your car and Instagram. Just kill anybody. Yeah. The only time you're allowed to post pictures of your car. If you drive a Maserati or above, unlike a like an Infinity. It's like okay, it's fine. I mean cool guys are really not getting the point here where it's don't kill by anybody. And then it's the idea of dose, whatever you want, but you don't like hell anybody? Because the police will. Use your Instagram to find you. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, so the police were now curious enough, about Carter, and David to really look into them. They learn the David was only twenty one years old in Carter was twenty seven being a cougar. They ran the place on Carter's Infinity to get an address for the payer who lived together, and they started to conduct surveillance on the couple's apartment, two days after Ashley's murder, the police watch their apartment and saw them come home at around. Seven forty five in the morning, Carter and David then got into the block Infinity and drove to hole in mall where the American Eagle store where they used to work was located David dropped Carter off the malls, south entrance, and then drove around the parking lot and part away from the entrance Carter then entered the mall. That's when officers approached David in the parking lot in question why he was at the mall so early because they were there at around eighty m when the stores generally opened around ten and there's no reason for them to be there that early right in there. There's. Following them there under surveillance to these odd circumstances. So they already sort of. No. I mean, it's I think part of them wanted to not believe, like they couldn't possibly conducted a horrible murder over robbing American Eagle like maybe that's what we're dealing with. Yeah. So when David responded to the officers, he told them that he was waiting for his girlfriend who worked at Arup, stall store, inside that mall, which, of course, is not true. They ask David for his driver's license. He didn't have one on him. So the police can seize opportunities as an excuse to take him in, in arrest him for not having a driver's license. We're normally if you're normal person who's not committing a crime. I've been let go for that. So they generally will if you don't seem like a degenerate, which is really nice. So when they brought him in curiously he was wearing a buck ski-mask pushed up on his head. She is come on. They suspected that David was involved. So the police obtained a search warrant, and in the car, they found ski masks, a nine millimeter handgun a single walkie talkie individual guide to lock picking in the vehicle. Out of the movie visual guy to pick. Right. So police searched the mall but they couldn't find Carter later though. They did find Carter at their shared apartment David Clarke shared apartment, and officers said, they think that she walked home after going to the mall. She agreed to be taken to the homicide office for questioning meanwhile, though, the police also pull the surveillance from the mall to see what Carter was doing while she was there and in the footage, they could see that she was trying to enter the American Eagle store with a set of keys, presumably, these keys, you know. Our Ashley's, but who knows. But this was early enough. It was seven forty five. It was before any of his story, employs would have arrived, and as you know, American Eagle changed keys. So the keys did not in fact, work work, and this avalance, then showed her walking from the mall in the direction towards home, and in the ineffective, she's confused because David's gone, and he was supposed to be waiting outside. Yeah. Looking around where he went exactly. And she's like in her jammies, the whole thing's really weird. So another thing, though, is that she is worked at the store for a long time. This was right after a black Friday sale. She would have known that there would have been a huge amount of cash in a safe at this time. Yeah. So I'm black Friday and thanksgiving. The crowds are insane people just want to come in for the best field, and, you know, everybody wants to go shopping. And so we had, we would have ended up with a lot of cast in the face. And I'm sure that, since they had worked there previously. They knew that there was going to be a pretty happy amount of cash in the safe from all the styles that we were gonna make those two days. 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But the police learned there was somewhere between forty thousand fifty thousand dollars in the store. Safe again, that's still boggles my mind in two thousand fourteen at that many people are using cash, I now whereas are, you know, at east coast, I feel like this long. It's not used because people use cash though, I love using love cow, Alexis uses too much as love cash. Always using cat. I, I do. Honestly, I love cash, too, but that's weird. Can you can't get your tax cuts on it? Well again points and then you I I just like she can't be traced, though, pecans faster, but I just love cash and then easier. I don't anyways. All right. So there's forty thousand fifty thousand dollars in cash in the store safe, and it's becoming clear that Carter she had worked for American Eagle for a bunch of years. And she would have been familiar with the amount of sales like anybody would be, you know, obviously the biggest sales would have been black Friday, the whole reason why it's called black Friday is because that you get into the black you were in the red. And then in the store was in the red which means that they were they were showing a loss. Black Friday is they get into the black would talk about your. Yeah. Do you think it was Gina really care about it? I thought it was like about the black parade, we didn't because we don't have a right. I wish it was. No. I honestly have never thought about it before or. I'm jealous of your knowledge, but also not because me. Seem right. Look at it, look it up. Okay. All right. So while the police question each of them. It seemed that Carter and David their, their stories were not matching up and remember that the police had been conducting surveillance on them for days. So they had all this footage of them. And it was all contradicting all the stories that they were telling them so they were obviously lying right? Carter denied being at the mall that morning and denied trying to enter the store even though when you look at this Valance tapes, they are fire. He's trying to get into this cry. No. All right. Well before I start my little thing Billy was right. So surprise, surprise. So another thing that the investigators covered was that surveillance for surveillance footage of Carter at Home Depot buying two shovels, a rope bungee cords a pair of gloves in a tarp on number twenty first two thousand fourteen which was a week before Ashley is founding to not, not good like you. I mean, we see this, how many times have we done? We pro this look the fourth or fifth time that we've had this. And then the things on the trunk, we'll just we'll guide of how to lock pick a car like disorder should on Amazon. Just as bad. Exists. But if you're might as well as all I'm saying they're that bad at it like have it delivered to your home. Then I don't know. Our new sponsor of, you know, you, you borrow the stuff I think, is what you do from. I don't know you by somebody else by it for you. I don't know what we're helping people commit crime. No. I sent you to do less. Goes back to how dumb are you that you're going to, like, okay anyways, so the Browns bullshit on our on Amazon? We wish it was on. So everything's obviously looking really bad for them. Everybody was floored that it seemed like they actually were plotting this murder and the whole thing seemed to be motivated motivated by money and the seem super horrific but it gets worse. So it turns out the both Carter and Davis. David previously worked at a different American Eagle at a store nearby in Abilene, Texas. This is actually the store they had met, and they had started dating. So David ended up being fired from that store as well after missing three straight shifts without contests, his or mandates his that we've talked about dumb and move on and after he was fired. He was transferred to the whole in mall store. We're actually had worked and that's where everything had taken. Place. So Carter had secretly hired David. She switched his first name with his middle name, and then also switched the two digit two digits of his social security. Number said he could be hired at the store without people realizing it was the dude who had been fired from the sister store weeks earlier. Right. And I wanted this I wanted to make that super clear. So Carter was the manager of Albanian store when she got transferred to the whole in store. She wanted her boyfriend come with her. So he had been fired because he didn't show up. So she is the one who manipulated. All these numbers. Right. And dark ship. But anyways, so that's when they became a couple, but another side note is that it's also do you really need to work with your boyfriend, like dude, also, it's against policy to do so, so I don't actually know why she switched from that album store to the whole in store. But I think it had something to do with it, and they were having a lot of tolerance for her bullshit. And like decided to just transfer her instead of firing her. Yeah. And yes, she come over in that, like over. Listen, I don't want to work with my boyfriend, but I'm going to hire him, enter different name, even though he's been fired dude, it was only unless it was like weeks later that this large robbery occurred that Ashley noticed in turn them in for. So anyways, the investigation is continuing. The text messages are coming to light and coming to the surface and the police are pulling all them and seeing what the hell these people are saying to each other. So it turns out that the second plot involved, these two planning to rob the Alba lean store that they both formerly worked at. So their phone traffic show that they were sticking out the store less than two weeks before Ashley was slain. And while they were there, they exchanged incriminating text messages. And they were able to prove this with, you know, GPS and all that shit improving where these text messages, were sent and received. So in their text messages on ten forty five pm on one day, David wrote to Carter, there's no way this place doesn't have a back door. Carter responded, I haven't seen the little blank manager. Come to the back, yet blank means expletive, you know, and these are obviously pulled from the court documents I don't know. So maybe I just missed him. I found their back door. It comes out really close to the only place with cameras. And then shortly before I guess, six PM next day, Carter told David that she'd found the backdoor, blah blah blah they were basically plotting to figure out how to rob this store and leader when she was in custody Carter told the police that she believed David was having a sexual relationship with another assistant manager at this all Boolean location, which prompted her to take pictures of these isn't managers car, and there were text proving that you plan to slash your tires retaliate towards this person. And they were essentially likely plotting to do to this manager, what they ended up doing to Ashley, which is she's insane. Yeah. I mean, the chances are like one in a million kind of people find each other. But we hear about it all the time out killer couples and I think it may be there with the manipulation there, maybe one of them convinced the other. But I feel like they go through with something this. This dark you have to you have to be kind of almost there already by yourself. You have to have that hatred and that willingness. And maybe that other person just kind of give you the extra push you need. But I definitely think that they both you know, probably would have done something like this on their own. Sorta super v they'd had enough. They got enough to make an arrest David's taken into custody at his at a private residence and Morello by the Marshall service. Without incident he's booked into Potter County jail transported to Fort Worth police homicide unit to be interviewed by detectives the police also suspect that Carter and David to be great flight risk, because they didn't have any ties to Fort Worth, but to actually Morello in Lubbock. So the Texas Department of motor vehicles record show that at least one vehicle each and Malary's and savannahs names, Qatar dated to Texas Department motive eagles. Texas Department of motivations records show that at least one vehicle in each of Carter. David's names are registered at addresses in Amarillo on December six. Carter and David cars are Carter Carter and gave it or the names. No, no, but Carter was. It has dollar on December six Carter is taken into custody by Tarrant county deputies and transported to the forth worth jail. So here's what police theorized, what happened. They believe that Carter and David the essentially stocked Ashley Harris. And they. Zeroed in on a time a window of time when they thought that you would be most most vulnerable, which was around the time of the black Friday. Rush. And then they either break into Ashley's apartment, and they head or they waited for her to get home. And then the ambushed her while she was sort of, you know, open the door or maybe they walked him when when she was asleep. Then they kill her. They take your keys and they're gonna take those keys and take them to the mercantile store and then robbed the store with a safe and as they're planning this murder slash robbery. There also plotting to do something similar to at the Abilene store. Some David and Carter are charged with capital murder. But for whatever reason the prosecutors decided not to seek the death penalty against either of them. The prosecutor was appalled over the heinousness of the crime and was quoted saying, there are no good murders. But at least there are some that you can understand this was different at a minimum. This took at least a month of planning. They stocked. Ashley Harris like people stock a deer. I'm pretty sure that they stay broke in whether they had to actually visibly again or not because the door was open. I'm not sure. But I read that there was her friend Hudd gone over there with, like home with her. I guess, and that they went inside after the friends had left her friend has said to the police that she left around whatever time and they went in after that. But I think that might be the maybe that kind of what the docking like they stop a deer, quote, from that detective is in reference to that they really just they waited in the parking lot until she was alone. They want her apartment until her friend left, so they knew she was alone and not when they went in. And unsurprisingly as trouser approach the two of them started pointing fingers at each other when Carter got onto the standards to testify, she claimed that she was terrified of her co-defendant in live in boyfriend and claimed, but he was that she was raped when she did not do what he wanted. I mean, that was truly the most thing I think I've ever seen in my life. I. Like, yeah. It's the easiest defense is to blame the other person when there's more than one sucked back then there's more than one person, you know, being tried for calm. The easiest thing to point fingers at the other one. And, you know, I think that the you know. Little little girl crying courtroom. She thought that you'd get pity. And there's, there's no pity for the hat, when they're this is something that just oh group. Then. Yeah. So this is a new you see this kind of a lot. You either see these people turning on each other. You see them standing United, but this is particularly interesting. So she immediately starts to just point the finger at him that he was the aggressor that it was all his fault. And it was kind of a the prosecutors really believed that she was a mastermind. So this is kind of the stance her defense took. So this is her version of events. So I'm not gonna say it allegedly her version until I'm done. This is her version of events until we're done and we say, otherwise so. Carter said that she cooked when she was walking through the events of those couple of days, she said on thanksgiving, she cooked traditional thanksgiving dinner and David that day got drunk, then they watched movies smoked weed. And then she got sick. It was so daylight at that time, and then she claimed to know nothing of the slang, she was asleep the entire time in the apartment that she shared with David, and then she said at laid down. And when I woke up, it was dark and David was there are both hands on the clock where points at five and went to bed and went to sleep, then I was woken up by David, and he said, I needed to get ready to go to Klay burn, and he wanted me to pack, so then they went to clayborn, which is a neighboring town. They rented a motel room and this is November twenty eighth. But later that day David header drive to the hull and mall while he toyed with a nine millimeter, Glock, handgun that he held in his lap. So he was in the car with her during this drive. She said that he then put the gun, interface and try to make her steal money from the store David threaten her. Her parents and relatives if she did not do what she was told. So at this point, you know, when she didn't do what she was told they returned to their apartment where she claims David's friends, Rachel repeatedly. She claimed that the first time David pointed the gun at her, she flinched he laughed. He asked if I thought he would shoot me. I said, no, he said, you don't know me, but I know you many call that her grandmother's name and address her brother's address in the address for parents. He forced shotgun point to recount the day's events almost testing her like are the police if the police question you, you know what are you? What's your story like just testing her? 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And while she was talking, he seemed David seem calm, but when she paused, he would pick up the Glock, and then pointed to her again and say, you know, get the story straight. So they left the human mall. And after a while David headquartered drive to WalMart. And he said on the way to WalMart. He told me is what she said on the way to WalMart. He told me I need to get some dark sweats and some shoes that I could run it. Then he brought her to the mall to do the robbery before saying, yet you better come out alone or I'll kill everyone you love. So, of course, the prosecution is asking her. Why didn't you just run away if you're so scared and Carter's excuse is that she believed the that, that he was going to harm her family? Right. The store was crowded. She was seeing people everywhere that look threatening. So even if she had gone in the locks would have been changed and her key did not work. So when she returned to the car. She comes David Tucker back to their apartment and someone pushed her down the floor as she walked in she heard voices. She didn't recognize saying, I'll make her follow directions. I've already dug your grave and then someone took off her sweatpants, and raped her after the first raped she tried to crawl away, but before she could she was raped again, three more times before someone pulled her into the kitchen and told her to cover herself. She claimed the door opened and closed a couple of times, but she did not look up to see who are assailants were next morning. David Astor if she had a good night. Then David said you're going to go back and do it again. And then she said, I heard people talking who said they haven't dropped it yet. We're going to take her back and make her do it again. Again, this is her side of the offensive side. We're not saying this is true or not. Yeah. We're just saying what each side is saying. So the prosecutors, they had more text evidence of one texts that David sent to Carter. Were two sets of coordinates that led police to the shallow hole on a ranch in loaders. Which is this is about thirty five miles away from north Abilene, and the Fort Worth worth police detective who investigated the case. He said that he thought the, the whole was actually meant to be a grave for Ashley. I think that's the hardest thing at my head around is that they, they didn't just want from her. You know, if you need to, you know, they followed her they easily could have mug, her beat her up on her keys with my son, and, you know, maybe they wouldn't. I mean they probably don't have gotten caught. But maybe they wouldn't have gotten caught that way. But it how why did they find it? So necessary to actually tell her and from reading I read that there was they had dug a grave miles away. Like maybe they thought it was going to be easier to get her body out do that shallow grave that they dug and navy at the last minute. They decided that they were just going to set fire department, that shows some real funding, like they really truly must have hated her to have to, to want to go to that extent and. And you know, it's easy to steal money. But I think this was about much more than that. I think they were they were really just out to get bre vengeance for being fired, and they weren't even erected for that they didn't have it on their record. It didn't go anywhere. So they weren't in jail. They weren't really in any sort of trouble as I can getting fired from American Eagle. Carter and her defense team. They said there was another narrative for that. She said that the whole. That David had Doug for corridor. She should she refuse to cooperate. So what, what they were saying was that this is where I'm going to bury you, if you don't do what I'm telling you, which is interesting. I mean, I believe Carter's involved, but I'm just I always plays apples yet. Yeah. So remember, Carter said David had said, I've already dug your grave, whether this was all concocted in the in the defense room or whether this is real, you don't know. But it's interesting, you know, and she said, I was scared I was to read to talk, David apparently said, you're so stupid. You don't even know what I was planning. I texted you a picture of where I was going to bury you look at your phone, and apparently, there were actually was not only the coordinates, but also a picture of the grave on Carcassonne Jesus. But these I mean what I don't know is if these I mean he. This is a tricky like he texted, her look at your phone and kill you that. That's why you know, whenever we talking about something sketchy in my life. Everyone's like just call. Don't email? Leave a texting at all. No. That that's just call. It just call. Because you don't know inflection. You don't know. You don't know sarcasm. No, no. Not about that. No record. Oh, that's where you're going? Yeah, bugging your phone, but it's not they're not. But the thing is like there's unless you're on FBI like unless you're calling being recorded callings always the move mostly because he'd be like, hey, between me and you this, this is just for harmless, workshop, they're always, like, hey, just just call though because like then there's not like a track record your ass, covered. Yeah. But anyways. The prosecutor in this case, urged the jury not to buy into what Carter's defense, and what Carter was saying survey essentially believe that Carter was the not only involved but the mastermind entire plot. And they stated that Carter. Had a lot of lives for member and jurors had this important, but not terribly difficult decision to make in not. They need to know when they're being lied to and for quotes, for a person who is capable of beating someone to death, strangling them in their own home lying is not a big deal. And I'm not letting David off the hook. But imagine the horror someone is probably sitting on you wall. Someone else's taping up your hands, and then your ankles, they slash your throat. And then when you're finally dead. They set your place on fire. There are a lot of people at her apartment complex, which says a lot about the fence in this case. So he's saying, like, not only was it against her. They set it on fire. They were willing to sacrifice anyone in this building four dot goes beyond their selfishness, and he said, I will prosecute David. And obviously, this is that Carter's trial. I will prosecute David but he's not the first man to be manipulated by an older woman. And there's something to that. And I think eventually, I mean I don't think but eventually Carter was found guilty of her involvement. And she was sentenced to life in prison without parole, and may twenty sixteen. They had it all planned out there planners, you know, they, they had been whole, that's an murder for athletes planned out, for like I'm not. And though they knew what they were doing there was time or if one of them wanted out there were times to get out, there was times to get help and neither of them did any of that. They planned it the original security cameras. Be Dan's day. She had it all planned. She left the back door open. She stole the keys from somebody else, and they, they had it all planned out. They knew exactly what they were doing. And that was the case again with the black Friday murder. They knew what they were doing. They planned out carefully. They obviously didn't think of that anything they didn't think about the fact that he would be found so quickly and that they would. Notice that her kids were stolen. And so they, they clearly didn't think of everything, but they still hope the time plan the fall out, and that is just me a Mark of somebody who's manipulative and, and Cynthia Pathak, and I don't care about the effect. They have on anyone else. I do think that they're manipulative individuals that know how to work people. So David was also found guilty along with Carter and he was auto modestly sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. So he was twenty two and she was twenty eight they are never single lives. Done don't like how fall, she's his cries Ashley's family spoke to the media. And they said that our personal preference would have been that they both would have been executed would be executed, but the state made the decision to not pursue the death penalty. The overall lack of criminal history and Malary's age at the time the crime was committed contributed to that decision. I'm sure. So I was surprised though that it was a capital case where they did not seek the death penalty. I'm so I had to kind of look into why that was I am some of my professor that they had experience with cases like that. Because my professor had, you know, been are given and worked in the forensic community in Charles, and stuff, so acting, none of that was something that they had ever heard of to try to grasp that month that for myself and. Given the, the violence and the gruesome net of this crime. I really think that they should have gone for the death penalty. I am personally. I'm very back and forth on the death penalty. I learned a lot about both sides of the issue in some criminology classes that I took in college, and still, I really am never definitive on it. But in this case, I just feel like they, they were so sure that they caught the right people, and they treated her so horribly that I just feel like they don't deserve to live. And I think those interesting, I wanted to make sure about this out because I had a teacher, that even though I'm unindicted I had a teacher that said something in college that has really always stuck with me. And I think applies to the and she said. That I seen too much to be against the death penalty. And I think that's really kind of home in this case, because, you know, if I just reading about what they did to her is. Just so gut wrenching. I really couldn't believe that something like this happened to somebody that I know but absolutely solidified my desire to work in the friend appeal just having something like that, so close. I just knew that this is where I wanted to be what I wanted to do. I wanted to help you know, bring Justice to, to people, and their families, somebody that works in burns. Science, I just want people to know how hard it is, to get away with murder of someone that, you know, every move that you make nowadays is reported. You leave trace evidence everywhere you go. It's very difficult to to really get away with something nowadays. Yeah. So I mean, I think I think one of the most important things here is like we have to kind of examine this crime. And if you ways in that this is so great driven in these guys are so young. And it's like they got away with one little, they got away with one robbery, right? Got like thirsty. Yeah. To want Maureen want get to want to make it so much better than us. And then the fact that they started plotting this whole thing with their manager. Ashley, who's thirty one. I mean your whole life's before you that's just less stock so sad. And if you watch you can look at some of their trial coverage they will click children like they have no idea what they've done. I mean, there's literally like oftentimes I say, this is somebody like what I'm talking about somebody that was victim or talking about somebody. That was a purpose. I often say, like this is somebody that could work at like you'd see at the mall. I often say that this is literally normal them all. Yeah, this is. A story of just it's greed. It really comes down to greed, and what did they need the money so much for nothing? There. Infinity is there and I mean this girl Ashley was just beloved and suffered a horrible death. And I just can't imagine. No, it's just it's, it's one of those things where you don't obviously understand the consequences of what you're doing, and you're so like tunnel vision to in thinking that this is going to answer whatever problems that you have not only that Jack and I were talking about this. We were working earlier when we were not recording, and we're just like we cannot believe people kill people. It's mind blowing for any reason, though. That's my that's even over even over love even those essentially this, it's like there's no mile connection. I talk actually your but in, in my book, there's a lot of book about this. Let me out now. It's like when you think about how hard it is it just wake up in the morning. Right. And do all of your stuff, and then you look back at all the tests that you studied for and all the things that you saved for it other relationships. You try to build an all of that over and over and over and over again, and then somebody can come by just like that guy. Take it all the way that's just me the most. And that's why would I do? Yeah. Police out there. Listen, Jack ni- are with Billy in that we also don't kill people and don't want people to the one that we have is that. No. We're, I mean this is why we do this. It's like every episode brings us one step closer. Maybe somebody who cares. It is like should I was considering robbing the store? I'm going to not do that. Now. You hope so it's not it's never been worth it. It wouldn't have never been nothing. Illegal is worth it. It's really not don't break. The law arguing is work really hard as we've had, we have live a dignified life, if you know of a crime, tell somebody, yeah. Listen. Life is really hard. It's even harder. If you're committing crimes truly like it just makes everything harder than your anxiety ridden. Like do they know? Well, I get caught do you wanna live like that? I like that. You don't fit. I live like that. And I'm an honest person it's burden only I should carry told me get worse. He'll make it worse for yourself by doing it crime. Okay. Well, we're going to end it there, if you guys are connected to you happy library day, we're not done yet. Well, do I mean, follows them Instagram at gigantic adults gutter app at the first degree and happy books? Happy chief pup day, but isn't she's ball day. Appreciation day. Trump and trade. I'm Tim Maguire, the napi newsman is the Trump administration was draws tariffs on steel aluminum from Canada, Mexico. Both countries say, they'll lift retaliatory tariffs on US goods clearing a hurdle for new trade agreement between the three nations. President Trump says the end of the terrace is good for all three countries, spin, charging us extremely high tariffs as much as two hundred eighty five percent or more for our agricultural products. The Missouri house passes a ban on abortions at eight weeks of pregnancy. Governor Mike Parsons, I've been pretty clear where I've been from day, one on right to live several other states have also passed so called fetal heartbeat laws. Today's action follows Alabama's passage of a Bill making performing an abortion a felony in nearly all cases. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has defied a subpoena from House Ways and means committee chairman, demanding six years of President Trump's tax returns committee, chairman Richard Neal says they're likely to go to court next week. I'm Tim Maguire.

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This is this is a tenuous tenuous delicate dance they're trying to carry out so that they can get him elected and Kamala can be the president. She had a rough weekend that sixty minutes interview. You saw it. Come has a real likability problem, a real likability problem and Joe Biden over the weekend saying we had the most extensive voter fraud organization. Yes, we're sure you do yet another forty slip. The old man has no idea what what he's saying that go ahead. Secondly, we're in a situation where we put together. And you guys did did it for? The President Obama's administration. Before this, we have put together I think the most. Extensive and inclusive. Voter fraud. Organization in the history of American politics, we will believe you. We will take you at your word. We we think you have. We think you've spent four years. Aligning. Lawyers Cheats activists. Bad workers and the light, and it is the most extensive voter fraud organization. In American history, we we don't doubt that for a second and we are prepared. Type. Of thing that police across the country do on basically a daily basis. Doesn't always make news and you certainly don't want to defend them a Houston man tearfully recounts. How a Houston police officer saved his life during a fire early Saturday morning I thank God for having them as Angel I thank God for having him. In the having them like Angel Days Goggle put people. The Watson will you. Watch. People. Poor people you. When you think day there. And they was there. They're. Not Thank God for the Snow. Because Follow the stuff that's going out own in the world with the police and citizens you know. Police not a bad police. You got you got. You got good police lot here. Mattress Mac and gallery furniture do in what they do. Gallery furniture opening a new trade school to help trade it to help train Houston's this comes to us from ABC thirteen. Paul. Before you on anything, this group of students are learning skills from carpentry construction and welding classes they hopefully to a new career where they good I'm having to help from the teachers like teachers are allowing. Teach the his life goals, two classes that are only for young students. Adults can learn here too and they don't have to worry about their kids because there's free daycare. But also change your family's life. But what sets the school apart is it's not located at a traditional building set and gallery furniture. We're probably the first retail store to ever have a daycare center in high school in the stores. Newest addition couldn't come at a better time as we learned today Houston Mayor Sylvester, Turner State of the city address are still a lot of people hurting during the pandemic three, hundred, fifty, thousand employees were laid off in March and April. Since. Then we have recouped one hundred and forty, two, thousand jobs, which means more than two hundred thousand are still without work. If you're one of them, you might WANNA consider gallery furniture's new school work is life's greatest therapy so more he's Tony More Texans we can get. Great jobs like welding construction skills, co Neri auto mechanics than the better will be mattress. Max Motto Helping you stones at a time when they need it the most great opportunity come here, and it's really high or community. Could you get to move out your own pays? Awesome. Story. Fantastic, story, Matt gives. Back. While the workers at Walmart Heb target in the light never stopped working. And by the way for far less money. Under much greater threat of transmission. Now that Schools are back open. Some Hi St. teachers calling in sick. So they can complain about in person classes, teachers who called in sick say that in school instruction right now is unsafe for them. Middle Schoolteacher Rachel Nash. says. Take care of my elderly family members. I. Live at the same addresses them. I'm worried about getting sick and bringing that back to my family I'm also a single mom. In a statement H is said as the Houston Independent School district continues to navigate the cove nineteen pandemic. We remain focused on providing our students with a high quality education while ensuring that the health safety and wellbeing both of our student both our students and staff are held to the highest standard face to face instruction will continue to occur with safety measures in place in accordance with guidelines provided by the CDC state and local health authorities. You may have noticed. An increase in the number of the the language is important cases. A case is a positive test. Statistically almost every case is a person who either a symtomatic are only mildly implement symptomatic, but will not go to the hospital. These are not deaths. These are not serious illness. These are not people who are going to be taking up hospital beds. These are people who test positive. They may have a loss of of taste and smell for a few days or a week or more. They may run some high temperature, many cases most cases they don't those are cases of testing positive because the testing has increased. If you stopped the testing wouldn't have any more quote unquote cases. This thing has run its course. It is time to open our economy. The damage is being done continually on a daily basis start having weddings start having funerals, go back to school and teachers if you don't WanNA teach. Why are you there? Microphone or not. What he says speaks to you the Michael Berry show. The was I. Take Shade. Blocks. The verse Breeze Dale. New. Martha's. We lost a legend. Sir Bag. On Friday Jerry Jeff Walker Bash. Seventy. Mr Bojangles in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Sixty, eight. Fifty two years. Read one time it had been covered twenty six hours. 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But he said it couldn't have been a black man because the jails in New Orleans at the time were segregated and he was of course in a segregated Jill on the white side. I'm not sure what they expected to happen after shutting down the schools Vermont's but Houston Area School district's. report an enrollment drop of nearly forty thousand students. K. H. O. Reports Sixteen of the areas twenty largest school district report fewer students enrolled this year sixteen out of twenty. H D tops, all school districts with one, thousand, four, hundred. Nine hundred forty four fewer students as fifteen thousand fewer students sorry fourteen thousand nine hundred forty four students. So basically, fifteen thousand fewer students, the average enrollment declined is two, thousand five, hundred thirty three students at district's like all Dean Alvin Clear Creek conroe software Fort Ben Galena Park Tombaugh etc.. And where have the students gone? Duncan, Clus Money University of Houston education professor and former Subaru Superintendent and at Spring Branch ISD says students some students can be home school. So that could be a factor could be some and private settings as going to be a certain percentage students who just not enrolling all. Alien VSD has the largest percentage decrease at eight point nine percent with four thousand fewer students enrolled the school year district officials say they're worried about lost money because schools are funded on a per pupil basis. The Texas Education Agency has guaranteed full funding the district's regardless of changes to enrollment or attendance rates due to the pandemic for the fall semester. Levi's superintendent. HD CHAMBER SAYS IF NOTHING CHANGES? From? Here. On out. Ailey via St. we'll see anywhere from twenty five to forty million dollar revenue cut the students are gonNA. Lose staff members are to lose teachers are going to lose and it will have been your own fault. You should have opened the schools you shoulda brought the students back, but you didn't. You know a lot of teachers today. Are not the noble teachers we remember from past years. Now, there are plenty that are great plenty that are wonderful. But it is clear to me that there are a number of teachers in schools today who don't WanNa go to work. And are looking for any. Excuse not to go to work. The school district you're GonNa, SUFFER But worse the kids are going to suffer. Imagine how many kids are GonNa fall through the cracks. Imagine how many kids were already on the bubble already in a tough environment. They're moving from house to. House. MOM doesn't work. There's no dad involved. There's no extended parental structure, maybe the the family in the apartment next door is helping out with the little kid. And he struggling already. And now they've moved across town. And they're not going to start back school and they're not gonNA show up on any list in nobody's going to check on him. In that kid is going to be left out. Multiply that by thousands and you're going to see that. And that's a bad situation for a kid to be in without any structure. For many many kids. In this country School is the only thing that gives them structure. There is no structure at home. In some cases, they don't WanNa, go home. There's nobody at the home there's no furniture inside there's no food in the fridge there's nothing to eat there's nothing to do. In many cases, it's not a healthy environment in every sense of that word. And School is an opportunity for forty hours a week. For that person to have structure and food. And and discipline and instruction, but it's not going to be there. And why? Because they hyped this pandemic, we will look back and learn. And it wasn't hard to figure out. They have hyped this pandemic. For political reasons for personal reasons for professional reasons mostly for political reasons, and then because some people are just willing to be scared. Because this is the roller coaster they miss as a child, they love the fear. But the consequences are going to be grand. They're going to be dire. is going to, be bad. Do. You remember the joke you probably won't. Do you remember. What you remember the joke. About the chiropractor. was about a week back. Do we need. On the Michael Berry show. Show. Oh So. Baby. Son You saw. At. Fifty one years ago today. So serves loyal Lynn Jennings Mary's his fourth wife. JESSI colter. Improving. Married until his death. The diabetes. Thirty three years pretty good run. WHO She did bear him a son. Shooter. One of the reasons Biden won't be campaigning between now and the election over the weekend he confuses Donald Trump with George Bush. This is the most consequential not because I'm running because who I'm running against this most consequential election in a long long time in the character of the country in my view is literally on the ballot. What kind of country we're going to be four more years of Georgia Georgia. GonNa, find ourselves in a position where if trump gets elected We're going to be in a different world. I thought it was a story from the Babylon be, which is a satire sight. That Joe Biden was calling a lead nine days before the election. Was not very good weekend for Joe Biden. He said, people who don't vote for him or chumps. Thought he was going to be a president for everyone. He got confused about who he was running against. You just heard that. And then we have a fun new sex and drugs video from hunter that just dropped and you know there's more. So. They've decided that there will be no more in person campaigning for the next nine days. Probably for the best, probably for the best, his celebrity guests are getting sick of playing to twelve people in seven Pumpkins. Like Jon Bon Jovi did yesterday. Jon Bon Jovi. Played to twelve people seven Pumpkins they just brought in the seven Pumpkins the last minute. So you got the George. Gaffe. GELS sitting next to him in an interview having to help him out. That's not a good luck. Can't even read his teleprompter. Is Why seven to answer questions for him. He refused to answer a question from a local reporter. About Tony Tony Boba Linski. Hunters ex. Partner? In, fact in typical. Joe Biden fashion he erupted on the guy does is a smear EDSA SMEAR, and now they've taken to saying it's Russian disinformation. Everything that they don't like that happens to be true is either racism or Russian disinformation. Almost, as if maybe at some point, people would start to figure that out. Doesn't it? Here. He is causing calling those who don't vote for him. Mr. President for America calling those who don't vote for him chumps. Our is hard for those who don't support me as those who do including jumps to the microphone out there. Okay. All right. He's. Okay. He's getting angry tyrone New Orleans go ahead. Hey how you doing Michael good go ahead. Yeah I've been listening to you for a long time and I already program made me laugh a lot. You know. But this weekend I was with a couple of family comes over funeral. and. They stuck in there watching CNN and talk about president trump ain't doing this. Doing that's marriage is something you cannot change those people Mar.. Do you know the unfortunate thing about that Tehran is That for. People. The hardest thing. The Rubicon you have to cross is understanding. That, the media is dishonest. Once you cross that and you get comfortable questioning disagreeing with. The. Media then things start to make sense. Our smoking cigars a few days ago. In a place that had a screen TV's up. And one of the stations was MSNBC. In. This guy comes in and he sits down and he turns the volume up on that one. Now there was golf and other things on. But whatever I was getting some work done and I'm listening in the background. And this is a story, this is the day. The Hunter Biden story has hit. It is explosive. This is potentially the biggest scandal to ever be uncovered in. American government. That's a big deal. And all they were covering was Barack Obama campaigning for Donald, trump and how all the famous people love. Joe Biden and don't like Donald Trump and not one bit of coverage and I thought to myself. If you trusted the media and some people still do if you trusted the media. then. You would be left with no conclusion other than the conclusion that many people are going to find. Once you begin to understand that these people. That they are a revolving door with the Democrat Party George Stephanopoulos how many people know that he was the step and fetch it to to Bill Clinton. This is a guy who told the story about when when Bill Clinton scandal came down how humiliated he was because Bill Clinton had lied to him too but Bill Clinton lied to him. In in the White House where he worked as Bill Clinton aide, this is a guy who secretly contributed dozens of thousands of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, and then one at one was exposed had to apologize that's a payment to them. To to win favor with Hillary. I. Mean It's Once you cross that stage that you understand. Once you cross that point that you understand that the media are lying to you. Then, everything starts to make sense. The best thing anybody could do over the next eight days is turn off the television. Just turn it off because all it's going to be is trump bashing. I clicked on yesterday just to see and it was I can't remember. It was NBC CBS in the story was about how seniors are all voting for Biden and not for trump anymore. Oh Okay we you're. You're not trying to win the election for providing it all because he can't do it for himself. Ramona, I started a business. Crafting small figurines of Muhammed. Just making a little profit. Berry show if he doesn't say it's Who Will? found. Other. Back. Assume. Written by. Green in one sixty eight. Intended to be released on sixty nine album green is blues. Problems occurred with first recording. postponed. I'm released in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy and on this day nineteen seventy-one. Greens tired of being alone certified. Gold. Starts in the key of C major but soon transforms to the key of D Major. This occurs twice in the song. Produced and recorded by Willie Mitchell. Next to. See Sometime. ellery Clinton says there's no doubt she would have handled corona virus better than trump. especially. If it were me, I have no doubt I, mean. I was born for that. Poor. Only. Mall she so bitter she's so very bitter. Our hair. It's crazy lady again. Yes ma'am yes. I agr- done better. It could've been me. I could've done done better. Clyde and friends would your up. Just a comment that a, it's a little bit past time now, but because the debates over so I I think I think president trump really missed a great opportunity. To add a lot to his his cachet of votes and that is this. When he was when he had that debate I, think what he should have done is basically raised it at a level that Joe Biden simply couldn't compete. What he did is he kept down the same argumentative level of well, you know you've been in Congress for forty seven years and you've been the vice president for eight years and just bickering back and forth. Can you imagine the look on Joe Biden's face if president trump it turned to him at some point during the debate and say just between you and me I think we have different philosophies. What is your opinion of Jeffersonian nationalism? And Joe Biden's look would have first of all would have looked at it the audience like help. Then he would have looked at there's no at anybody write anything about this, and then he wouldn't know how to answer wouldn't know whether it's good or bad, and then if if if if trumpet proceeded at a sort of a politically historical level, which shows that trump had done a little bit of homework and understood politics and what has transpired since the turn of the century. The turn of the last century. Would've left Joe completely present and he would've lost its every time. He opened his mouth and didn't say anything but he didn't he just he just kept arguing arguing and that's right in buying wheelhouse because that's all really joking new. It's just turn their prop and say you know you didn't do their shit didn't do that and so on and so forth. I don't understand why lie trump's advisers didn't didn't prepare him in that in that in that way or maybe maybe they and he just ignored it. I have no idea. Anyway that's my. Jeffersonian nationalism and. Of course that's not the point. The point is he knows that Joe doesn't. JEWISH NOT GONNA turn to him and say, we'll explain it because that would even be more embarrassing like Gee I don't even know when you help me out Donald I mean that's that's. Is To put you on an embarrassing position where where he definitely is clueless and appearance that way in front of however many millions of people were watching what percentage of those millions of people that were watching no Jeffersonian nationalism is. Probably Zero. One once again, that's not the point. The point is to show the JOE doesn't know it because he's debating show do not debating ninety million people. Think you have to understand. It took me a long time to understand took a long time to recognize Donald Trump's appeal is not what he knows. His appeal is understanding the audience. And he does that better than any other person in politics. I give an example before the debate, the biggest event to occur and it overshadowed much of the debate was the Tony Bubble inskeep presence at the press conference. When it was announced that that Donald Trump's guest for the night was going to be Tony Bogle inskeep. That created a delicious media moment. And you say to yourself. Would Romney have done that? Would, McCain of done that would Bush have done? Would Dole have done that would Bush the I have done that no. Donald People think of Donald Trump businessman and he is. But this is the guy who was the Star and executive producer. Of the biggest show on television for years. This man understands had a stage in event for an audience. That show had very low production values. It was it was the creation almost in a soap opera way of drama around who was going to get fired. I've never watched it but I looked at enough of the show to understand. Who was going to get fired and how they were going to get fired and how they were going to react was like a stage play. There was no heavy production. It was very simple, very straightforward, human emotion created for entertainment in Donald Trump is the best of that. So sure I I suppose he could have asked a Joe Biden about quantum physics as well. Could have written up an Algebraic equation and asked him to solve it. He could have exposed all the things that Joe Biden doesn't know but I would argue the audience wouldn't say. Biden doesn't know Jeffersonian nationalism it is a clown. I. Don't I. Think you might be the one out of touch bully for you that you do know. But where I think trump excels is appealing to the voter. And I think most voters want to be appeal to on a level that does not insult them. And on a level that they can dive in and they can get it Biden's family as crooked they took money that's very simple and straightforward. So I am not as keen to say trump missed his moment. When I understand what he was doing and I actually think he pulled off that I think that's going to give him all the bump heeded to get over the finish line. I really do I think he did exactly what should? We will talk to a columnist with the New York, post about the why the why it is that twitter has banned them coming. Along. That Times Times. Mocking, lowered. Michael. Dairy show is on the air. Trying to show one of our favorite guests Markowitz she is a columnist for the New York Post contributor to spectator USA contributing writer DC examiner Mommy and all around Great Guests Carol I. Let me ask you about being at the under attack New York Post. These days you're the most celebrated. Oregon of all media be banned by twitter. Good. Does that feel? Yes it's excellent. I think it's really telling how many media figures are completely ignoring. The fact that the near post remains locked out of their account and it's you know for all the the hysteria over the last few years about how under attack the media is by the trump administration. There's almost no mention of the fact that a major newspaper can't tweet because they said something that you know the the twitter finds inappropriate. And you know. Watching, the the media, the larger media ignore this is is a real big eye opener should be and what exactly they said that was inappropriate. Well they didn't. They didn't really say anything right? It was they used in information that was allegedly unconfirmed but I mean, if we're going by that standard I, think large amounts of news stories would also be in trouble there. May have been unconfirmed, but it was a laptop that the person who handed it over and had custody could could trace the chain of custody and he was willing to say what was on it and one of the recipients of one of the emails on it says, yes no, that's real. This is not some you know person whispering in the bushes and we're giving credibility to it. It says sourced as any other story. Yes. Absolutely and look Joe Biden has not said look this isn't real or dishes you know Russia planted this or you know whatever their nobody's Nobody has even questioned whether this laptop is hundred. Biden's everybody knows it is and everybody knows them carry on it is true it just isn't convenient for the media right now. In the long term, how does this affect the New York Post? A lot of ways I. Don't think it'll be bad I. Think We publish something that was real and true, and the fact that a lot of people have a with it is because they have their partisan leavings and they want Joe Biden to have a safe trip through the election season and I don't know I think that we should garner respect for something like this I, I absolutely think that the posted the right thing we wanted to. Talk to you about a piece that you've recently written New York Post entitled Cuomo's and De Blasios school shutdowns breaking parents like me as a mommy. What is so difficult about these lockdowns we've been talking about them here in Texas and I know it's gotta be bombers for you because most of y'all don't have yards and and space to go outside. It's very different there but your situation. Well. So only four major cities in the US have opened for in person education at all two of them in Texas Houston and Dallas Then it's New York City and Miami but what New York City Miami are doing is a part time model where the kids go to school. Maybe. One to three times a week if three if very lucky. So it's an unsustainable model. I have a very good situation I worked I've always worked from home. My husband's still working from home. I have a lot of family in the area who helped out and so have one of the better setups and still crushing to me you know having my five year old not even he's not even five yet it my my four year old on Zoom which just makes me his administrative assistant because I have to sit next to him and help him get on to all the different zoom calls he has and you really haven't lived until you've seen a four year old to P. E. ON. Yes I have I. We were in data and my youngest I thought the building I thought maybe there was an earthquake in. The door was closed and the fords were pounding and I literally had no idea what was going on and I'm trying to do the show. I'm doing my radio show from the living room and the doors are closed in my kids room and my wife came slipping out and she said, sorry carcass doing his his. He he you know they're not real discreet subtle at that point and he's pounding away on the floor of this. CONDO. So yes I. Have a little bit of a sense. Right so you know it's crazy. What we're doing is crazy and no other countries doing this. Every other country has put education first and look our suburban areas have opened. Our private schools in our cities have opened its only public schools in major cities that have decided that education is not that important and that they're gonna put it last and my column in today's New York Post is about how I don't think it's opening next September either I think this is a long term thing. What do you think that is? Well I I hear that Thoug-. She says, we're gonNA social distancing wear masks the twenty, twenty, two and four larger population. That's an inconvenience giant inconvenient for schoolchildren in places like New York it's more than an inconvenience. Time because of the social distancing requirement. Kids can't be six feet apart in small new, York City school building. They just can't be and so unless we surrender the fantasy that kids can social distance reach other, which again every other country has done they've said, forget it kids canceled distance. We will have part time schooling into the future. You talk about picking up and dropping off in all of the various schedules and how hectic this has become and how difficult it's become because of this nonsense and you say quote putting socks on a rooster. Now, do you have firsthand experience with that or is that? Techniques just you know it's just a great phrase because that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm standing outside with my four year old he is. You know he goes to go near anybody's supposed to keep his mask on because his schooling was starting twenty minutes after my seven year old and it was ending fifteen minutes before. So thirty five minutes a day we're standing outside making sure my. My Kid doesn't go near anybody or his mask or You know just maintaining this social distance masking four year olds which again, no other countries doing we're the only ones making masks on putting masks on four year old the next country was Israel, which is at h six. So most countries have at eleven or twelve where the only ones who decided toppers should be masks. What kind of effect do you find? This has on your kids because my kids seem cooped up, want them outside. We want fresh air interaction I think social interaction is very important to a child's development. Right you know I was in the spring they were definitely getting weird my ten year old had no interest in other issues just started really withdrawn and just going to read all day, which is great except she had no interest in talking her friends everybody was very zoomed out and face to out they didn't want to deal with online friendships anymore over the summer. We got them a lot of interaction with other kids. It's really hard to do in the area I live in because everybody's just. In a deep state of fear they just have completely internalized that their kid can die. If they you know don't have the masks on all the time or if they give social attraction with other kids. Constantly masks policing at the playground and it's very hard especially like my four year old you know four year old don't speak very clearly. So when they talk to each other through a mask, they cannot understand what they're saying. There's so much misunderstanding going on with children and we're really stunting their development and for what for what we have completely. Gone off the rails with this thing and I take it. Seriously I'm not one of those people who oh. It's not real. It's real. It's real. It's just not nearly as dangerous. We believe. Affect Children in the way that we believe to. Just moment. I saw some footage of. How the Jewish community being treated in New York to absolately horrified we're talked about that coming up. Very. Activate the Michael Berry Show Plus. Cold. That, she can live birth. And so. On your. Guess She's a columnist for the New York coast. Contributes to other venues and a New York City resident. Carol. The world has to be watching in horror as I am when we see video of Orthodox Jews having. Officers. Pound on the door step in. And begin harassing because they are gathering in the name of religion at the direction bill de Blasio, this is very, very disturbing symbolism. Yeah. Yeah absolutely I think you know when. In that video I am unclear what they're doing anyway. I don't think I don't know for sure that there was a religious service going on or anything, but the police officer standing at the door and saying. That there's ten people in this house You know it's scary because what do you mean to problem this ten people in this House I have five you know my family the family of five if we have the grandparents aunts and uncle over where a ten just because we're not ultra Orthodox and look different and you know have been maligned by Politicians doesn't mean you know they're doing something differently than with families all over the place you're doing. So you know I, I made the joke on twitter but this is exactly what the come back with a warrant for or am I being detained these these are the phrases that need to teach the ultra-orthodox communities to say because they're in the right and they should be living free people like the rest of us will. They're also very easily identifiable because of their guard and hairstyles and it appears to be that I. Don't WanNa say under attack because it's very strong language but they are. The de Blasio is focusing on them and intentionally picking on them with some of the statements that he has made about them. Why do you think this is? N. Governor Cuomo as well. Cuomo used eight-year-old picture of a Hasidic wedding to illustrate how these people. Gather in groups. So you know they both have been so wrong about the way that they treated them. You know at least in part because of their support for Donald Trump that this is a community that does support the president and I. Really do think that there's some element of that I you know at one point. I kept pointing out to people that the areas in Brooklyn that were experiencing spikes actually didn't have that many people maybe one neighborhood, but most of them did it So the narrative sort of changed from all these specific community people. To trump supporters. Well, that's not really true either what it is is these are immigrant communities and immigrant communities don't have the option to sit at home on their laptops and working their pajamas they have to be out there working at actual jobs and they're going to have more interaction with each other and with the public and their numbers are going to go up and the numbers were so slight that the spikes were so small and yet they were targeted in this way where they were treated like lepers It. Just an unfortunate situation around with the leadership that we have in New York will the Orthodox. Jewish community in new. York has also been defiant in a very peaceful way that we will hold school that we will educate that we will get that. We will will celebrate life's. Wondrous occasions and it is as if Cuomo into Blasi of taking that very, very personally and made this a battle of wills and not an attempt to community safe, and that's very disturbing to me. Can't absolutely I think I in that community the sense of community is very important and schooling is very important and religion is very important. I. Area I live I'm Jewish for example, and none of the synagogues near me have opened. They're all still closed only remote. That community says, well, that's not enough plus we don't really they don't really have a lot of them Internet service at home. It's just part of the culture that they don't do that. So it's not going to be the same as it is more secular communities like mine they they do absolutely take worship you know in person very seriously. So what do other New Yorkers say because whether you're Democrat or Republican trump or or not? Surely people see that government and individuals who can pick on a community the way they have orthodox Jews can do that to Catholics or or agnostics are vegans or anyone else as well right? Yeah I. Wish I could say that doesn't outcry from a large number of people but they've been scapegoated so much that I see it all the time those people they're doing this we shouldn't have to suffer because of them and I don't see that the larger. Group of New Yorkers standing up for these communities I. I. Do see that happening in primarily conservative circles where they're saying look if this is happening to them, this can happen to any of us. Why are you not paying attention to this I do get a lot of notes from Liberal New Yorkers saying they agree with me on schools they say, I. Can't speak out about this because it will seem like I'm not taking corona virus seriously enough but I, fully agree with you the schools should be open but there's so much cowering and skier and group think and conformity that they're not speaking out in general that is intimidation in his bullying whether physical or intellectual, and that is not how you build consensus in. Of Community I think that is absolutely terrible Markowitz. You're always a great guest. Please come back and visit US Thank you so much and the New York Post where Carol Markowitz is a columnist has announced that they are endorsing President Donald Trump for reelection Peter Schweitzer details, the Biden family corruption in the New York Post quote. Thanks to three brave Americans. We now know that Joe Biden has long misled the public about his involvement with his family's foreign business entanglements while he served as Vice President Schweitzer rights former Biden family business partners, Tony Bubble Linski, and be even. And computer shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac have come forward with tens of thousands of primary source documents, internal corporate records, emails, and text messages detailing years of business dealings centered on trading on the by name. We now know that Joe Biden met directly with his sons busy. Chinese business partner John at the Lee in a Chinese hotel lobby on a fateful trip in two thousand thirteen a trip that allowed hunter to spend hours with his father the vice president on a transoceanic flight to Beijing aboard Air Force to. Ten days later. Hunter landed and unprecedented one, billion dollar private equity deal bankrolled by the Chinese government. But this was not the only meeting Joe Biden had with Biden family business partners as the New York Post reported emails on hundred Biden's hard-drive reveal that on April sixteenth two, thousand, Fifteen Joe Biden met with a high level official of a controversial Ukrainian energy company Barack MMA which had put hunter on its board. In a recently unearthed photo shows that Vice President Biden met with hunters cut business associate in Washington DC. After I dismissing the gathering scandal as a conspiracy theory the Biden team. 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Get and I think that they were putting him to sleep during the week. Before the debate having all day and then on debate night instead of it being eight o'clock at night for him it was eight o'clock in the morning and You know he had. He could he he was a lot more coherent and then. The debate. Goes back out on the trail and he starts getting crazy again. So that, just a theory I have I think put him to sleep when they want them to when they. WanNa put him out at night. 'cause you what he never goes out at night. He never does any night appearances. And we we've talked about that here in fact. The First Time I Research Director Sandy Petersen started floating the theory of the Sun Downing with me I thought should gone a little over the edge and then I, started seeing more and more people talking about it and I saw started seeing more and more. Indications that would at least bolster that fact you know the problem when you start with the conclusion and then go searching for legs to that chair you you tend to find and you shoehorn things into fitting with your theory. But I'll tell you what to sure is a lot behind that. This theory of Sun Downing being a problem for patients of number of cognitive decline conditions Alzheimer's. Among them basic forms of dementia among them and that nighttime is difficult is difficult look. I don't fault Joe Biden. For being in the throes of what I believe he's in the throws up, which is a significant mental decline due to a condition other than natural aging that's not his fault. And we go around not really funny. It's actually disturbing that we have a system. Where politics is so important to so many people because that is their industry that is their livelihood that they're willing to do a weekend at Bernie's propping someone up because they cannot afford to lose. There is too much at stake for them. It's not that there's too much at stake for America. It's not that there's too much at stake for America's families. There's too much at stake for the inside operatives who live and die off the contracts the appointments. A lobbying deals and the like that they are willing to pretend that Joe Biden is completely healthy. Even if as I believe, it will turn out. He's not. and. It's going to be embarrassing. If in fact he did win it's going to be terribly embarrassing. People ask me all the time WHO's going to win and I don't know. But I spent some time this weekend looking at the numbers. The numbers are almost exactly what they were at this point in two thousand, sixteen Frank Luntz said on Thursday or Friday of last week. That if Donald Trump wins, it will be the end of the polling class. The group of people who are pollsters? Who Tell you who's going to win and WHO'S GONNA lose? We'll have been so discredited. If Donald Trump wins. And that it will mean that it's the end of their industry. Well, that's not true. Look there are people who've been getting it wrong for decades and somehow they talk the talk and convince people that they're right. And I'll tell you one. Because polls are conducted for two different groups of people. One of them is the media. because. Look for two weeks before the Super Bowl. There's no football game. But for two weeks, there is a breaking news story that the coach on one team said this about the other team. Now, we're going to get a response when they generate they manufacture. Drama? Politics has become bigger than sports in this country and that saves. It has become bigger than all sports combined. And in fact, sports have taken a huge knows. You look at the the the number of people watching the the world series. That the numbers are at decades low. The NFL. DECADES-LOW NBA decades low. They're dying in professional sports are dying because the biggest sport in America is no longer politics and I think part of the problem there is sports tried to get into the political arena and they hurt themselves. They were bigger than politics. But what we're witnessing now. We'll get to that in just a moment. We'll talk to Jason rants out of. Seattle talk show host there with With the story about Seattle police one, hundred, eighteen police officers have left the Seattle police department in a mass exodus. After the defunding of Police Movement, we'll talk to him and then more of your calls coming up. I think that's by calling. That Times. More. Michael Berry show is on the air. Expect. SEATTLE TO BE. A bellwether for grunge music and. Coffee Culture. The sleepy little rainy city on the Dilip Bucolic Pacific northwest has become however the bellwether for civil. Discord Revolution for violence in May mayhem not exactly how I had come to perceive Seattle. Jason Rants, is the host and I never realized what a great name for Talkradio Jason Ranch is with a Z. even given a little extra urban coup. He is the host of the Jason Rants show on k t t h seven, seventy am and ninety four point five FM in Seattle Tacoma. Three to six. and. What we wanted to I ask him about is what in the hell is going on in Seattle. Well, that's a good question I think what's played out over the course of the last few months has died down a little bit but the problem is a lot of the activism behind it of actually spread and. When I do my show I often hear from folks who say, Hey, thank God i. don't live in Seattle I abandoned it moved to the suburbs I moved to snohomish county or Pierce County, and I get to escape all the madness. But then they're finding you know bad policies. Seattle have a tendency to spread because they're pushed by ideologues who have a tendency to inspire other ideologues outside of Seattle and so while a lot of the unrest has definitely gone away not completely there was an incident over the weekend where. Again. Two sides got together and got a little bit violent but. Unfortunately. You're starting to see this sort of pop up in other communities where there's a push to defend police. There's a push to bring along the taxes that have made it more unaffordable in Seattle just now in different parts of the the state, and of course, there's The homelessness crisis that has. Spread considerably throughout the region. Well, let's talk about that because I speak often to my friend, Lars Larson who's on same time we are in Portland and you know much like you here's a guy who is conservative but also enjoys the the trappings of the big city. You know the culture, the art cuisine the Fund music scene in all these things, and he's there in Portland right next to Portland State University watching the city literally burn and your you're in the same thing which is unfortunate because Portland and Seattle or great big cities fun big cities they were safe big cities I mean, do you get the sense that this is a totally different city? Can this be saved? So yes. It's a totally different city than what it was can be saved I don't know I I'm leaning in the No, you know we have this opportunity for example in the city of. Just last year or to put in place a new council that is not as far to the left and socialist. and. We put basically the same people back in office. If it wasn't the same person, it was the exact same idea ideology. If not more extreme, I mean we went from one open socialist to to open socialists on the council. So this idea that suddenly people will see the result in speak up. It certainly hasn't. Come to fruition yet. Now, next year we've got another election to two of the citywide races and the mayor's office. The Mayor Jenny Durkan is in a whole bunch of mess because literally everybody hates her you good luck finding someone who doesn't have a strong opinion both on the left and the far left and even on the right she just deeply unpopular and so what I hope ends. Up happening is someone challenges her who's a little bit more moderate on the democratic side 'cause I know I will never get a Republican in office here. It's just not going to happen in my lifetime but I can't hope for someone who's at least reasonable or an adult and right now it seems like you're just seeing more far to the left challenge now maybe it means that she Can Squeak out another win or we go even further to the last? Well, you know what happens Jason and I've seen it happen in in Houston and I've seen it happen in a number of major cities as you get someone like Jenny Durkan, who would be pretty far to the left in in a reasonable environment on a reasonable spectrum, and then you get these fringe elements who begin. To to build a groundswell and in so doing they make that person look a reasonable. So a lot of people hold their nose and vote for Jenny Durken because at least she's not an vowed communist right and so you'd be surprised I think you may be surprised or maybe not that that she ends up looking stronger come election season than she does now because she's better than the alternatives. Yes and look there's undoubtedly truth to that the context of ever indication Jenny Durken that she came into power she was elected as be not moderate, but the adult alternative to a far far far to the left person in the context of our last mayor having to resign because of allegations of molestation of children prayed and and inappropriate was. So their the dynamic is certainly different and what I I think very clear and she was saved from this. The last time she ran because it was a shortened sort of election cycle for her. She's not a politician. She says not very good. She's got inspiring. She tries to play it always. A lot of ways she's trying to appeal to everyone and she then end up appealing to non. and. You know I it ends up a lot of people wonder whether or not. They should waste their time on someone like that versus anyone on the left to it. We seemed a little bit more genuine and I think we're GONNA run. Let's talk about what you've. You've been talking about at least one hundred, eighteen Seattle police officers left the department in a mass exodus during a time that I guess that was In. September thirty nine officers left the force. You're talking about a time when there would be five to seven, and now we're seeing these massive numbers what's going on with the Seattle Police Department? It is insane. So two years ago I did a big story here of a mass exodus and it was historic at that point throughout the entire year and we were only talking about one hundred, ten officers who at separated this year through September we've seen at least one, hundred, eighteen there. One hundred percent is going to be a lot more than that, and the fear is that we're GONNA to two hundred by the end of the. Year. Now, here's why that matters we are already staffed as far as Seattle police officers go in the city we've seen a surge in crime including homicides including domestic violence, publicize, including arson. We just don't have the adequate number of patrol staff that we would need. Now the city seems to think that we need about fourteen hundred or so would they call deployable officers meaning if they needed to they can actually go out into the field that's. Exactly. You know talking to activists here they'll. They'll not make a difference between cops being deployed on the floor. But I. think that's well just to give you context right now we're at twelve hundred three deployable officers that is lower than where we were in nineteen ninety and we have seen a population surge of at least forty percent since then so things are going really really poorly this is happening while we have the General Fund movement that council had voted to defend a portion of the budget. For the remainder of this year and just last week, they started down the road of cutting another fifty million dollars from the budget. This is that that is a considerable amount. This is not. The police chief out. Carmen best who was over the police chief out absolutely, and it's driving a whole bunch more when you look at the exit interviews of these police officers, and let's talk about hang with me for just a moment. Jason. rance three to six Seattle Tacoma K T H in in Seattle continue our conversation with him about what's going on in the Pacific northwest. Finger on the false. Jamie obtain continues on the Michael Berry show. Did. deplorable. deplorable. because. Is Them. Old. Again because it is Lord. Funny history behind. The crew. Led to that. Was that the city council who was repeatedly saying that it was deplorable Saw Me in an event about a year after that and I saw coming from across the room she bigger than I, am. Big Girl. And she came across the room and I thought, Oh, I'm about to get my ass woman. One mcadoo because you can't hit back right what are you going to do? And she said Michael Berry. Mike. Kafka. Coming here that she gave me the biggest she said I have to tell you every time. You play that deplorable I just laugh and now. I said, you know that's you. I'll love it. Ranch is our guest from Seattle Tacoma radio afternoons three to six on KT H. Jason is are you seeing signs in Seattle that it is less safe as a result of what is this hundred eighteen offset? We're we're talking about ten percent of the force. Not being available, there's no way you don't see the results of that, right? Correct I mean. So there's the dangerous side of all this right. So we've seen an increase historic increase in homicides in both the city of Seattle and the county which Seattle exists, and then you see the explosion of homelessness good. Luck finding a park that has not been completely taken over and I mean literally completely been taken over by the homeless so these. Things are happening at the same time and it's made worse. Of course, we have any of these criminal protesting events that turned into riots because you then require more officers to hang out in one particular neighborhood, which gives rise to either violence or petty kinds of crime throughout the rest of the city. It's it's just this big huge mess. One of the things you told us about the last time we had you on and I think you were on Fox News I think it was with Doug across them you've been on several of them. You were talking about companies like Microsoft and starbucks moving their corporate offices out of the city into it was bellevue but I can't remember basically getting out of the city proper, which takes them off the city tax rolls and these are big important significant symbolic corporations are you seeing more of that? One hundred percent. So just on the Amazon Front since we last spoke, there's been some considerable movements by them, of course, headquartered in Seattle. But during this pandemic Seattle City Council decided to pass payroll tax where it was intended to hurt Amazon the most. Amazon almost immediately said Yeah Okay we're out. So they started to move a lot of their jobs into the city of Bellevue just a ten minute drive away from Seattle. And that's eight more business friendly city on top of moving some jobs they've decided not to release some of the massive office space in the city of Seattle that they've had for years and they just made the announcement either last thing was last Friday maybe last Thursday that they're allowing remote workforce to continue through at least next June. Now, that's particularly important because there's payroll tax which goes into effect January does not get collected on employees who work fifty percent or more outside of the city of Seattle. So, there was a little bit of a loophole in which the company decided to take advantage that they didn't have to pay on top of that. You're seeing movement from starbucks allowing for folks to work from home big game fish big fish games has decided to sublet their officers allow people to work from home. You're seeing lots of that right now and clearly part of that is pandemic related, but it's also cost of living in cost of rent related and a lot of businesses are getting very antsy about the anti business climate in Seattle. So. What you're saying is that companies are maybe hiding behind the pandemic as to why they're not bringing their employees back. In fact you suspect this is a long term systematic problem that won't really reveal itself until other companies have started coming back that they're not coming back to Seattle not in this environment, you don't expect this environment to change anytime soon. Correct, and at the same time, we're also getting businesses that are closing down and there directly citing the fact that it is impossible for them to do business here both from a tax perspective but also from a client perspective, I, they're not hiding this. We have small those are small businesses that decided to go under but I mean when you look for example at bartelldrugs, this is. A pharmacy company that's been here for one hundred and thirty years. They decided to sell itself to an out of state right eight because they just can't make it work here anymore elephant carwashes this iconic car wash business in Seattle big pink elephants sign is pretty iconic as well. They closed down and they say it's not because of the pandemic it's because of what the city has become. Well. You know we've seen there's a major company out of Chicago a actually called Brooke but it's just outside of Chicago called Great. Lakes dredge. Dot. Corp, that is moving from Chicago to Houston major boost to the Houston economy and a major a black eye for the Chicago economy and this is one hundred, thirty year old company that hires and throws off a lot of jobs in I suspect we're going to see more. And more of that Seattle now, what the question will be, do they stay in the state of Washington? Do they move thirty minutes away? You know Seattle had a lot going for it. Hold on I pulled these numbers I'm sure you know I'm already but in July of two thousand, thirteen, Seattle was the fastest growing major city in the US and then they took a poll three three years later in July of Twenty sixteen. Seattle was again the fastest growing major US city in two thousand, thirteen, it was fastest growing with a two point, one percent growth annually, and in two thousand sixteen, it had accelerated to three point one percent annual growth. You know that's quite a turnaround in I don't know how long it's GonNa take for us to see the results the pandemic of course, affects all that. But when the dust settles Seattle's not going to be the city it was in many of those companies will never come back. It's a big move to to up and leave like that. It is and for the most overseeing right now is just going to the greater east side of King County mostly because it's still relatively affordable but I mean to your broader point Washington as a whole is not all business friendly anymore it certainly was Boeing made the announcement that they're moving their seven eighty seven dreamliner production to South Carolina there are leaving the city of Everett and Instead of trying to convince them to stay governor Jay Inslee says, well, we're going to have to re look at your tax incentives basically threatening to take away more taxes from a business and it's very clearly suffolks as a result of the pandemic, and then of course, starting next year businesses are going to get hit with an up to seven hundred percent increase in unemployment because we. Need to fill those coffers backup because of the unemployment situation that we've had here, which includes by the way about five hundred, million dollars being sent out to Nigerian fraudsters because our system wasn't up-to-date date, and then you're going to get hit with a wage tax of almost a little over a half of a percent to fund a new financial assistance program. So all of these. Things are hitting at about the same time during a pandemic. The state legislature isn't doing anything about it. Well, you got the the double whammy just like would New York City of you have a bad mayor, a bad political environment, a bad governor. So so folks are looking not at you know just moving out King County, but they're looking at a state that is punitive as well and I hate to think of the long term, a effects of that, but we shall see. Jason. Ranch always a pleasure to have you on comeback soon. Thank you so much. Appreciate it from seven seventy, a. m. k. t t h and ninety four point five. FM Out of Seattle to come our friend Jason Ranch your calls coming up seven, one three. Two one two. Five eight. Seven, four, seven, one, three, two, one, two. Five. From Portland to all the Greek cities in between. The Michael Berry show is nationwide. Too much of your partner for your look. I don't know. We've learned. Shit. The resumed. Smoking. Bob. Up. Prairie. This Day nineteen seventy four forty six years ago. Very whites album can't get enough. It's number. These great United States of America. The president is speaking in the critical swing state of Pennsylvania we go live it's the fake ballots read the phony ballots are crooked as. And then we catch up but we have. We're leading in early voting. That's trump. Because we in everything from here on in we went everything. Just get out there and vote or you haven't absentee send it in. Another like getting out and vote and I did it two days ago. And it was so good. I wanted Florida Palm. Beach I said okay. I'm here to vote and the woman was fantastic Sir do you have identification I just happened to have my passport. Sir Do. You have any additional identification I do. I do she said, thank you. Choose good I mean she was doing what do She was good. She was totally. Here. This guy. So. So she did a great job and you know what? It was a beautiful thing because way you can cheat I mean that then they should here do this and here Sir you. Can. You know they give you Listen you don't see the video I can as we play this, they put it in the president looks more relaxed. It was so perfect and comfortable she. has looked in a very long time. Who's bringing looks triumphant. In that tells me not to read too much into it. He's looking at this polling data and looking good. Is having so much go back. He's having so much. For this. Country you're seeing. Thousands and thousands of ballots, how the military ballots with thrown into garbage cans. With the name trump on it. So we can say is law enforcement is watching Nevada. It's watching Philadelphia in Pennsylvania by the way but Philadelphia particular. Things happened over the years in Philadelphia and we're watching in Philadelphia and we're watching at the highest level. And we're watching the Democrat governor who's got his states shut down a great state. North Carolina has got a shutdown we're watching North Carolina we're watching Michigan that's another one we're leading to points in Michigan. Hadn't been one in decades until I wanted for years ago leading in Michigan and we should be I brought a lot of carver's. Car Clemson they hadn't had a plant built in forty two years or something. And we brought a lot of plants and you hear that Jack you hit. That's what as a brand new. Beautiful. F Thirty Five, Jack. Still that's why you can't see. That's super still actually. Joe. Biden is a diehard global is to wiped out your steel mills. 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Danny Garcia a BIGGER BETTING FAVORITEThan Mikey Garcia was vs Errol Spence Jr

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Danny Garcia a BIGGER BETTING FAVORITEThan Mikey Garcia was vs Errol Spence Jr

"Intended for mature audiences the views and opinions expressed those are the panelists and do not reflect anyway those are the podcast partners, sponsors or affiliates enjoy. This is Michael Buffer and you're listening to the voice of the people. Let's get ready. For Boxing. Voice. Dot Com. motherfucking. Guys. got. Bull. Second wife and a lot to get. Critical to God. I just my style. Download. Know my motto. Mom. I'm not saying. Shots. For more. Calm. E be. Welcome Back Ladies and gentlemen to another jam-packed addition of the box and radio has. PODCAST is August twenty eighth nine am. Not really nine twelve we're a little late buddies. All good because we we hit a stay we're going to be talking Danny Garcia taking on unified welterweight Earl Spencer Junior, the WBZ and Champion. Now when this fight was announced, the number one welterweight in the world was listed as a minus six hundred favorite with Garcia. Danny Garcia coming in at a plus four hundred. But after a terrible looking car crash seven months ago that is left spence with injuries to the face and several broken teeth had to put posts in his mouth. Spence's now to sixty and Garcias now a plus two hundred. But that was according to the latest odds and that was may twentieth today the odds are Danny Garcia A. Plus Three ten. And Earl Spencer Junior. Minus three, hundred and seventy. So Danny Garcia a bigger betting favorite. Then Mikey Garcia was when he faced earl. Spencer Junior. This is what we'll be talking about here today as well as featuring UK welterweight luther clay who put on a very good performance versus. UK Zone and now TB vis special betting friend. Chris Congo. So we will be having moved to clay on the show talk some boxing welterweight division, and obviously we're talking the Welterweight Division Danny Garcia and Earl Spencer and gentleman I just want to say I guess. This seems pretty fair. Right I mean with everything that has gone through shouldn't be a minus six hundred anymore Do you think the bookies? Got It right? Good Morning Good Morning Fellas. Mood. Where knows mother fudge? INDIA'S FELLAS On that was a marathon show last night was. A? TAP. Out early. Bro We went we went like. mean. But I mean, Hey, I got onto the next question I think the bookies always get it right or most of the time get it right and it's fair. I think it's fan but help me clear out something like they're still saying that lake our spence junior is the favorite but is not as big a favorite correct as it was against making right I mean at this point he's only sixty points better. Okay then. Sixty because he is a minus. Huge impact. The answer to that make sense. I'm not just the action and also if we compare it to. The. Against Mikey, days a combination of is the accident what Virgil, Spence we get, but also the level of opposition not saying Mike is not a great fighter but in. That Maki and is seen by everyone is a big a friend I think like. So I think that's fair and the book you get it right? You know so I can't complain about it but but what but what does it mean? Does it mean anything or is it just? Gold is it fool's gold? Are they just enticing you to bet on Danny Garcia because sometimes we see him like no, the bookies they always get it right? They always get right. But then there's those Chris Congo's where Christiane was an underdog people who listen to Midi were able to jump on it and then Congo all of a sudden became the betting favorite and it turned the lines no I. How much money you think is GonNa come in on Danny how many people believe Earl isn't earl. Listen book is played games, wave fighters not necessarily we've like Pfizer as well known as Danny and spends like they can really play too much game with those two because we have enough information on either of those. The only thing we don't know right nine, we'll scratching our head is. What kind of we get that thus, the only unknown that is out there real unknown is out there but I mean don't put it past the book is to entice earlier bit my they usually the I don't know if they do not on your side, right but he do like a booster like maybe two free days before the the fight to entice more bet, they'll just give you some really be sweeter to bet on Denise Hey. You know what is an underdog who would make it uneven greater underdog so that when if she writes You get an even be obey off. That's the kind of stuff like bookie deal to make sure that money comes in. But ultimately they're hoping that spends win because there were woman is going to be luffing and you know banking cashing the money, right? So spent wins I think it's I think it's A A sign of the times, like if you look at what what happened with the Garcia Fi then coming off the heels of that into the porter fight with the accident it's like so many people all the listen all the inches have gone to you know earl didn't look up to par. You know that's that's where the bulk of it came from. You know. So porter favorite type of thing where we looked good he looked better than we thought I mean how many bookies or how many you know how's house a? Gambling spots in in casinos were just shitting our pants while Garcia Puerto risk. I mean while Porter and earl. Spencer was going on you know what I'm saying. So heading into the next fight yeah. Make sense that the odds would be a little lesser than and part of it's because Mikey. Didn't have any real credibility in the division and then part of it's because of the unknown with Earl Spencer. But I do think that it's gold ultimately but you have to remember you have Steve Kim One of the most prominent writers boxing coming out saying that Danny Garcia is going to win the fight. That's going to alter betting lines like you're crazy. Of course, it's going to ultimately end the bookies have to adjust for it at this point I believe that more money is coming in on Danny and that is tightening up I think the smart money that comes in at the end of the week is is is going to really. Narrow the gap. Let me give you an example of like people were playing with the odds. Right swigs exactly. What happened on the Tim Zoo is horn or the big NAM, the Bigan them in boxing in. Australia. Where backing on they would say, Oh, you don't understand why booking doing it this way and they making Hornet underdog. So there's definitely money to be made and we backing on an that pushed. A lot of people to hear actually was going on here like you know we don't really understand horn should win and. Let's go and grab that easy money. But at the end of the day, the book had it right and the book is the one that just took that money that you know we all thought will easy money we listen to the experts we listen to our brand will look at the resume and we said boom as Glenn get that money but a book is good rates because the favorite is the one that one you know and you don't make big money on based on betting for favorites so. Then, need to entice you to bet on an underdog and Danny Garcia is very live. Underdog isn't very good. Boxer is the guy who's upset the Apricot Shoe Times of other fighter. So As, a as a betting man. You WanNa. Believe in. Let me just like put a bit of money on spent on our on Garcia because not only the odds are in my favor I'm GonNa make money and Donny Kennewick very well do it's you know so I think you also have to look at the fact that light you're if you're a bookie and you're looking at Danny. Garcia. You're like, okay. Kenny. UPSET THE APPLECART in this one against Earl and you think back in his career and you say to yourself well, you know has he ever beaten anybody that was levels better than him. We he'd beat Amir Khan. Amir Khan levels better than Danny Garcia and I'm not being troll. I'm not trying to be a Dick I. Mean we all know what happened Danny one you know he landed Aleph took I think that was one of those fights where if they fought ten times Danny wins once or twice we just happened to see that one that's just my opinion but because Danny was able to beat somebody so much more gifted than him a gives I. Guess some pause for if you're bookie and you're coming into this like Yo Earl I think is technically talent are from a talent standpoint better than Danny. But Danny's be in guys like that before and he's been in these situations. So it's a very tough situation and I, think, if you put your money on Danny, you know I, it is somewhat fool's gold. Only I think Irwin's the fight, but I don't think it's a dumb Ben, you know what I mean and and especially as it gets closer and you get your money closer to even Oh, I might just put you know fifty bucks on him just because it's even money urine saying it's Danny Garcia how often do you get even money? You know on Danny Garcia are on earl spins opponent. Even. Bro Like Dan. Hi. Yet not yet I'm just saying if it were you lock it in right now ten bucks gets you thirty one. If you do one, hundred, one hundred gets you three, hundred and ten plus you hundred back. So you know. Lament. Let. Me Tell you something. If you really believe Danny has a shot, you don't have to believe he's going to win. You believe he has a shot as gambler. Worth the Shi- lock amyloid. Now because. Closer two weeks from now all the. The flip floppy Danny fans, and I'm like Damn to just put twenty. I'm GonNa just put a hunting and then it's GonNa keep getting closer and closer and closer, and you would have lost your opportunity at real money. but I guess. You'd think Danny becomes a Lisa underdog as the time comes in how is the money coming in? Remember. The book is don't just go based on. Feelings or anything they have like an algorithm and they they have like a risk appetite and depending on what money comes in than the other like kind of like become narrow 'cause there their risk appetite and their ability to lose money becomes greater. So they they just like fluctuate with the. Listen. That's what happened. Klay remember when, when, when, when, Midi and look people don't believe in it's fine and maybe I'm over assessing the box invoice but. We've we've found out throughout the years many many people listen. So when people like Midi? Let out a secret on Luther Klay. There's a huge possibility that. One of the bookies you know one of the oddsmakers get sent that tip or has the same type as Midi, and that's how you seem clay go from underdog. To favorite, you know he literally was like a plus two hundred ended up being. A MINUS ONE FORTY-FIVE ON sites up to a minus one, fifty on others. So that is money coming in. That's all the people that believed in clay changed the line and it flip flopped over but I got to know be. Jared Lloyd on the supervisor. Danny brings fans in the Bum Lord brings empty beer cans, the Garbage Man Aka the recycling trash master Bum Lord Crawford. and. Nasty said there was a second I was GONNA say I wanted. The two of you. As coaches. What sort of a shot does Danny have in your opinion? Is it more than just a left Hook Do Alia as a Danny Fan do do. They just have to bank on earl not being the best version of himself like what legitimate shot does Danny have because you know? You guys talked about him beating underdogs before. But man if that wasn't long ago, you know it's a long time since he himself has had a legitimate welterweight win. We'd like to talk about Crawford, we'd like to talk about Cal Brook. But what's Danny Garcia's last legitimate welterweight win if any and that's the not right. That's why people are looking at him like is he really a welterweight or is he just a welterweight? Two. Hundred percent and it's not just a lucky shot is not a left to or whatever I mean. You've seen him fight against like the against Thurman Right, we were live at fight it is. you know is a damn good fighter. Is a good fighter like and you know he changed my opinion for sure when I seen him I, like you know. The time like when he ford can. IGA The. Upset. But I didn't think it would just like he caught with it the basically shut my mouth he just kicked on with it and. Yemenite he has more than is competitive fight even before the accidents like even before the accident is competitive fight. I still go with Spence think like spence as a bit too much for him like specially physically but I don't know man they. You know it'll be foolish not to put a little bit of money down on Danny as betty now, I can pay off no midi poor advice poured you don't believe I mean according to rob view it's poor advice if you don't think Danny can win don't Bet Denny I'm in like. Eight. Have different philosophy will betting make as saying like. Is going we've saying, Hey, you know if you don't WanNA throw money out the window, do it and I can understand that. But if you had the money and if you betting money, she wanted to take the gamble. No problem. Go for it. Like is is a ten, a ten pound, ten dollars, and then you get thirty dollars back come on man as good. Listen three two one is. Just, outside of my like you know got a bet that call you know hot. But but but if you, if you think that Danny doesn't have a shot like I can't sit here and say the day doesn't have a shot like the questions like Oh does depend on the left hand. This is sports community. People can fight and people can play. You know ten twenty times and different outcomes can happen at in when the top five guys top ten guys in the world meet like it's explosive it's unpredictable and that's the thing like you WanNa say Danny Earth is not a welterweight why? Because he lost to the best welterweight in the world, but he's already he's already acclimated to that way but if you want my opinion on it, yeah, he has a very good shot. And and look even though some I, think that the odds are closer now because of the disparity that it was with early. Mikey Nah Man I think that. Listen Man. Danny Garcia. Inside he, he likes to get off his left folks and his shovel up to the body, and like he he saw something he said it before he saw something in Lake. This isn't a a little guy like Mikey the scenes something. This is a guy that been fighting in that division was a champion in that division and he's GonNa definitely a look the to poke those holes that he supposedly sees, and if you look back at Danny, Garcia's career come on he's when have you ever seen him get like beat on you know and get bullied. In a whole fight and who who are you why are you expecting aerospace to come in and just bully him smack them around the whole that's not going to happen. It's going to be a real tough fight earls in for a tough fight. A tough fight like he had like reporter only thing is with with Dan him a C. Danny's work a little bit cleaner in Oh he's going to be looking to counter and and he's like I said he's got some power. earls not the only guy walking into this fight with power. Danny. Got Some power shots. And you know well, play shot on a chin can really shake somebody. We haven't seen earl shaking up since that fight with what was the guy's name Lardy or something like that? he got hit with a right hook from a softball stays. If you guys look look at his boxer I don't know his first name but. He was dancing. So like you know a guy like like like Danny Garcia man lands up more well, play shy definitely make you do the dance. So And then you've got the whole accident and so many other variables. You gotta give any me a good shot. Well, give them some kind of shot for sure. We supposed to have Luther Klay in about a minute I sent them link. So he's just got a jump on I don't know if you guys see him or. Not on quite yet, but I could get some of these Super Chaz before play joins US Eric crews, and but there are no says shadow to the TV fan ness, DUMI Midi Mareo. You. Would a I got a couple of more. Me See. We have I believe supermax. Supermax supermax and let me let me guess. But yet blah blah blah man down Blah Blah Blah. Blah has tag man down. It's more like it's about time we talk about well to rates who actually want to fight top guys the sharks is back once again, tables turn your welcome fans has tag. Umbro man down. You weren't. You weren't wrong Mario Being him. Got A me and him got a future bet come in one day with spending Crawford. Don't forget the Pie but we got going. Oh. Yeah. Yeah for sure. Super Chad Ben fit the League says Battle of the Chins, twelve round split decision. WHAT UP TB what? Chat? One hundred, percent, Emoji? Three Times piece, Emoji, I would love that. Listen I want to see a good fight now, I think a good fight would probably not be the best press for Earl I think. So many people would get hung up on him not winning some like clean flawless mortal combat victory Play. You know I'm smarter than that y'all are smarter than that. The people listening to this show are smarter than that. You know. So I, just WANNA go fight I want clean fight and I wanna see them take it honestly to twelve I think the better chance for it to be a war is for it to end earlier but I just can't. Imagine Inner Danny Pena situation where he's down like you know eight to and not wanting to like go out there for knockout I can imagine angel just screaming his vase to get out there and try to get knockout. I can't imagine earl not going out on his shield. So to earl stops a Danny Garcia, you that happening guys you know does earl. Scott. Stopping aim. Danny stop a neuro Midi. As was ANTIFA. If you get caught we've shot in the middle of an exchange. Bro You can go down why not? This is why Danny Garcia does right e- exchanges we've you, and then you know I can see l. just. Maybe, swinging for one and getting caught on the counter, it doesn't have to be a powerful shots and then he can actually bank as well. Also, Bro is double infants you fro- you shot is for new shot boom you out. You know it's hard for me to imagine like a clean stone cold one punch lights out type of victory. What I could see is exactly what you said Danny countering off of an exchange catching them with a really good one and that's kind of what happened with again I don't. WanNa. Go back to that or anything but you know it was the one punch that he can throw. Day he landed in, he can do it again it gets. That fight. Though look at the way the one point you can through the reporting the facts. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Is there possibility that this fight just stopped because daddy's hook lands on the new posts? you know he doesn't react well to a punch man that's my feeling. It is supposed to deposit. These things he's going to be prepared in spar come on guys. He's. Inspiring but like hey, you ain't go prepared for like really trying to knock. Inspiring. Like eight on's gloves inspiring. You get. You know you'll. You'll protection it may be wear. The headgear with the ball who knows right? Clay has joined us. Hey Looter. Look. Good I'm good I got to go. Got My bedroom. So first and foremost man we want to say that. You know you put on a hell of a performance man I'm the one reached out on social media said that you made me a fan. I was not expecting that style and you know, I, know that. At this stage of your career, you'll probably end up getting another domestic level fight but I'm ready to see you across the pond i WanNa see you honestly I want to see you fight like a hostess Saito Lopez or I don't know who else out anybody that you know. You can make a name for yourself and you can give the US viewing public a good gauge barometer because I think what you did with. Congo was really good man. You cut the distance. Well, you stay on Your Double Jab you shoot that right to the body. You know that fight it was just his night but you fought a great fight and I wanted to make sure to bring you on highlights. You make sure you keep your head and we really want to see you come back man so were man just how are you, Bro? Yeah mine on like to be honest I'm I'm good I'm. Like, obviously disappointed lost in stockton the nine found like that I mean I could go up like I'll getting out by senior target phone-in. Raw. Yeah disappointed man you know put into the training camp and It was it was a hard fight. Off felt like I did everything. I did everything I could not night of the some things I shouldn't have done. Like, like in the Brown when I was kind of like a galloping into his range. Down like I was kind of Super Bowl. Though like a You. Don't like when you get rocked and you take someone's best punt like in the in the fifth round. Okay. Now I'm coming on. Comfy. And I kinda switched off lagging tell the defense and everything. But you know spirit I'm in good spirits like I said I've only hide eleven. and Chris someone not some like ninety six in the GBI team. So. Me was kind of like a big test Perform wildlife you guys saying there's just for me to go go away and learn some things and Get back from lunch man Comeback Bell. A. Go for Moyal. No no no, it's. It's. It's me. Yeah Luther what's up champ man look I definitely enjoyed the fight man you. You definitely came out the gate like a red nosed man you know there was. A bit of back and forth. But you and Congo you know before the fight did that have anything to do you coming out the gate with so much aggression brokers I swear to you may you came out but I I just wanted to take his head. You know I think I am I, played my play a slight impact roughing it is is the stall. statuesque, big of Congo. Sits for maybe even he looked. Kinda new. I'm box really folks up. I knew that I couldn't I couldn't play booksellers him I knew that I had to go out there and I try getting his face and to really try apply the pressure on them and I to work in in close range distance tried to do and on for the most popular successful. You know maybe I was. From the back and forth because. Honestly, I'm the back and forth. Everyone is writing me off. You know everyone say you get out like round round two, four a bit of a chip on your show the soda a bit of a chip and You know it made me into a tough guy and tough guys is a tough guys sport. So. I thought you for great man I thought I thought you apply. Pressure you made them uncomfortable. You know in my in my in my eyes you did you did well man, you know sometimes this is boxing. says. Luther like I think in the interviews before the fighter and in all the interviews I've seen senior do anyway you very cool quiet and all that But then you bring like you said, you bring a different energy into the fight, right? So it seems like you know the the real fighter, the warrior comes out on fight night i. can you just tell us a little bit about the mindset of like what the type of mindset that you have when you go into the ring man? I think it's a figure place to. The type of light fight I like to watch like I like like. My talk four favorite fighters like probably Roberto Duran than it's like, Marvin? Hagler. Then, I like Like chocolates, -Til Trinidad so I like these kinds of fighters and poverty I like L. Spans and like Allowed quo for. Most of the time I really like gratified is I like Mexican fighters I like like post kind of five softening even might demean as palm and everything. But when I wanted to get in the ring, I'm not happy unless on getting. Unless. Woodward and punches and oversee while welcome my defense a little bit by Platt respective punches. I mean that's the kind of Fi when I think is going to get FIS of ball I just go improve Masud few certain aspects and I'll be back. Hey, looter. Room gear here Thanks for joining US man hey. Again. Break fight I feel the exact same way the guys do I think even in the loss you you took something out of it positive in and I definitely want to see you again that said I'm wondering, did you pay attention at all to the betting lines or or did you notice the fact that you went from the favorite into a slight underdog in like a four week time span? I never really paid too much attention to the band line because most of the time I'm the underdog. I think for like six. Fights have been like underdogs or like I kinda I'd just kinda stopped paying attention because I didn't want it to let it affect my. Mind any type of way. Oh, I don't. I won't be watching like interviews of. Folks in channels make predictions. 'cause most of the time that kind of stuff to make maybe mind and maybe. Make you feel like the opponent like the smart? Yeah so I don't I don't really I don't really pay too much attention to it, but I knew that I was the underdog. I think. I think a huge part had to play. That was his who Chris Christie pedigree as amateur boxer also view is signed with didn't white so. Everybody already knew Chris me everyone knew that I'm not experienced. news at a boxing game of boxing like four years, five years. Though like everyone kind of knew. It was a big loss for me and I knew that ball nought. Folks there's no risk no reward. You know you don't take chances you don't you know can for. Those true. How did the change of trainer. Play a part into this fight, right? So because there is no easy to go into a fight a big fight, but it's even harder to go into a big fight with a new trainer. So talk to us about dynamics, neutrogena. I think Ame- of of had like. The best. CASE ONA I was of a really good trainer really Russian trainer. But like the language barrier on the fact that he's like he's angry he's like an angry Russian stopping African mind. So we kinda clashed in a Lotta ways. Does a lot of times I went into fights. Note the best of camps like camp chemistry stuff. So Fights are trained from us the full fights while train myself so like. A me that the county relation It was fine. You know I didn't really feel much effect of. The chain chaining everything because like I said off went into fights on the much west circumstances. So this Combo had a new trainer obviously, we don't have been together for a fight yet, but we got along well, you knows English Guy wispy welcome, and so it was an I feel much effect author couple formed well trained well and just the outcome was circumstances them variables mine is always very was in fights. And I hope that you train yourself for the freight acuity fight I. You know I was actually bottle phone Freddie's camp like did a lot spiro women all that but listen that's crazy. How did you train yourself with that fight? That's a big fight man. non-citizens for what happened The Wild. Like I said to my rushing trainer wheeler in town for I am. I think like five weeks out we go into. My train the left. The An Anna is gonNA. Pull me from the fight inside. Don't know we. We done what we've done like weeks of training already. To go five. To sparring like some, you know some respond or be work. You know this is good like we've done a lot already for the game plan. For A non. Tend woke his was the time. It was the time on us box in the best situation. For nine the best situation wise training wise would just trying to make ends meet in them or lead a few boxes stalled for the best trained best promote office monitors. Just GonNa make things time. Cool, respect. So Luther Man I I want to ask like what are your ambitions outside of world titles and stuff like that like In terms of your next fight or fights. What's more important just getting in the ring fighting in in the UK or are you interested in fighting abroad? Because you know I I would really like to see you over here with some. American television fighter like I think Eddie Gomez, you've heard of him brush sheedy. Twice to Russia. But he's a decent well two-way. You could give you a good test and barometer. I don't know if you think you're ready for a guy like John John Molina Crawford once upon a time you know he's still around there. We got. I don't know anybody got any other names, but I would definitely like to see you over here but what is on your? Horizon What do you have? Your I said on. A think a finger at now. We've taken this lost. My said my spirit's on. I'm pre- goods bridge and. Fire. While I just feel like. I need. More than fights are needed to what some stuff. and. The only way you up some stuff is in the fights because up until this point, I'll just been taken fights because like fights people didn't expect to win. All four fights in a row now been taking fights where people thought I. WAS GONNA lose. Food like, okay. Let's take a step back on No rebuild. Build up build up my experience up goes in the gym and I need I need some apprentice to work on in terms of finding America like you just mentioned the name just crazy because I grew up watching he's a guy that said Pity. Gordon. This is before rational enough about boxing So I was about Boxing Fein also what you guys before I thought in. Suck. Yeah I mean I would love to if they can put me into those names own even say. Maybe, the next twelve months, you know that's something extremely personable I'd get myself back in the winning column have not to welcome stuff in you know offing Tom Eddie Hun was quite impressed me in of they win bought his he said some nice stuff about me off the enough to say so maybe that's definitely a possibility for me to confide in America, of course. I know that like obvious the your manager has like a new promotional outfit I think or cold wars and stuff like. Are you going to be on one of those cards and? Is it going to be like Eastern Europe I think he has them like somewhere. In Europe right so. Yemi Nam Nam Avoid Oh so Hard and I think you might have a show to my. Full shows that a corporal is coming up with within the Yes. Oh, oath NEOM. Back in the gym next week and and I grew up in while no, you definitely be wanting to give me. Just a case of who? Who Frighten on what I definitely will be fine. Again can. Nate. Future Yeah. How soon are you trying to be back in? Your off the Saturday as roommate I was like God. Fight. Next. Week. Rag. What obviously I'm going to I think I'll take. A week hide the gym. A week now inside then I'll start dinovite training by I'd like it's hard because you don't want to come by too soon after knockout. Even you WANNA. What sort of suspension did the BBC give you for the knock? It's it's a month a month though today's yet. You. For me, as long as I have eight training camp like I could Another week and then I'll have a training camp. I'll be happy to get back into the rain. You mentioned like the size was crazy with with Chris, right like you know So do you. Consider maybe like going down a weight that you can make that one fourteen or I think Being possibly. The thing is a one four, a of people off me before. But the thing is I'm twenty I'm I'm telling twenty five Notova, right so like if I was if I if I should have been at one forty something, I shouldn't. I think done now. And a year or two I'll probably move back up for it's not like his. It's not hard for me to make welterweight while it's not easy. Wake up and. Could make one four. While I always think what's the point to make your for number twelve eighteen months to mean like what's the point reading like I might as well just solid wealth weight and I was like keep going old I'll just I'll just. Wait I, mean. Because like I'm pretty sure he won't make. That much long. He's like twenty, ten, twenty, eight. I don't think so either. So, is I think a lot is obviously Alafaya try get lois, they can. So they can be the biggest will equals everyone else. And today I'd probably be healthy and. Not Be. Comfortable. His drive will be healthy and go into these fights knowing that I'm not dehydrated or haven't been kind ten pounds night before the way in order kind of stuff I don't WanNa be dealing with that. They didn't have the did it have the big fight fill still because like you know we're watching you know obviously the whole boxing world been waiting for the white card and in So it felt like a big fight card put the fact that it was in a you know he's back yard and there were no you know crowds in attendance Did it still have that big fight field that we felt watching on TV? When I was watching it was cool because towards the calls from home when I'm watching her is still kinda has a fight. Feel it. Okay. Fight feel when you get there, it's like it's Weird it's weird like. I will say that I think. The Eddie Cards. Visually. Abedin like the BT cards and. TV studios because. It's just a different atmosphere differently, even the one they didn't toast. So in the middle of the street different different it's a has a slight son Kinda Swag. Why didn't have the Big Five now? It felt very didn't feel weird because you're in rings life. Once you're in the ring annual pungent punching you you kind of forget everything you know you forget everything It didn't have. The big big fight field while I think it was similar. To the smaller shows when baby you come in and this only like. The stage is not quite full yet. and. You go a couple of your, your supposed Jeremy You. It's not like the big crowd i. think it similar to that on a field while I feel for the five win that once you're in the rings the same. At the the wasn't that strange to be in a bubble like for week with your put like how many times did you guys bump into each other like? We saw each other. The thing is like. A. Even though we had a full. For wasn't really like go crazy. He wasn't. It wasn't no like mostly my yoga. NOMI. It was cool. I mean we so heavy. So awesome we saw didn't. Mean everyone is just kind of doing their thing. You know letting the day like there was no real beach in this will be sore. Think the strangest thing was just being stuck in your hotel room like you know normally like five week you might go for walks you don't Wanna be. thinking. Too much. Mongo. Wolf, you might be hungry. You can't eat. So you go for walk just to kill some time. You just stay in your hotel room and And whatever watch Netflix's Nixon play playstation stuff. Why wasn't too bad Ulan Tube is United Council is really Kook when you're when you're in the House late, do you show up to the house? Already, I mean I can't imagine you'd show up in your trunks right? They give you like a dressing room, but is it just like a bedroom? Not was so. We hotel. So they actually booked a hotel yeah, both a portion of the hotel. voter fight is in everyone and then it was only like. In two minutes co two minute drive from the Eddie matching so like you actually go driven into the place and then once you day you had to change in room area to get dressed ingredient before we were fight. So it was the same as much pretty much the same as every of Rena like you get stay in a hotel driven to the venue in a fit how long from when you got there to the to the house method. Till. You got into the ring like how much time was there between? Our Fay will say our before. Okay. So that's why. We have go hands route. And then. Wound up stretch and went out So it was more. I would say actually other than. Most big fight shows because normally is more hectic. Now on, it was more like a straightforward i. hear you are. You Getting Ready to hunt dropped everything everything was ready because normally sometimes you get to the venue, you have to actually find a free room. Yes. You have to find free room and you have to find will cut my. You have to find a place to stretch. You have to find a place to warm up you. See you on the pods dislike looping that, but this is very straightforward. So it was it was odd no by I had a good experience. You know it was a good experience. Yeah I remember covering this fight one time longtime ago and there was this fighter that I knew Carlos Balderas Perez I think his name was and the van had started. We were going with them and I was walking with him. You know trying to get backstage I have my credential but weren't allowed back there and he kept looking in every room and everybody was, but he ended up wrapping his. Hands by himself in the hallway because his trainer something happened but it was crazy. But exactly what you said and most waters talked to say that you know they'd rather go right away i. mean they want to warm up you know they WANNA get they don't WanNa go out cold but they don't want that long wait. That's what kills them. You know what I mean. So I I, hear what you're saying. Look. So on the domestic scene, a I heard obviously you want to obviously get back into the winning colored and that but once you've done that, who'd you have you is set on that Josh Kelly or you know maybe a rematch. Save Jim is just Kennedy. Oh. Wow. Jim Yup, just moved to Jim. Love I say. I've spot numerous rounders, Kelly. and. I'm not yet right. I'm not I. Love who might. It's not like one side is foreign or you know what we've joshes way he's Egypt's doing so much shit money just doing some share. You know what I mean he's moving he's fainting and I'm so he he is not one farm he can't come to me just what? I'm not that love can actually get him in line the appointed hour when a land. Not is good spawning because I? Am A recognized. For Work On. It has the domestic scene on. UK's go aloft. Wise man like. Especially in the. there's a lot is going to. Nothing much is for me so Yeah I mean out fi anybody really I've really got any names the. Was Right, now trying will ever come down show come Loofah don't be don't be all like. You have to come in co people and to be I, respect that. Room just candy is probably like awesome like you say inspiring. But when it comes to fight night, you know it does Doodo not offending all that doesn't let his hands go as merchant like someone we've used them as parts the pressure on him and that could actually work lake. So I would like to see that fight at some point to be honest. Yeah not if you don't feel ready because he owns sound confident and I'm going to be honest I ran through American names but Kelly was a UK domestic name that I wouldn't mind them I mean. I would try saying Ray Robinson Ray Robinson really beat Kelly so it would be the same thing if you went in there were Kelly but if you mentally are already beat you know he's beating me and spun I'm not ready yet don't take that fight but at the same time, the only way you're gonna be ready is by doing that is by admitting okay, there's this separation level and getting in there with Kelly Tom Minute timeout to talk to us. Explain. Why I mean. You know when as the slick fire and? You can't get to them right. Well. Then, then no coach you to fight. So they just spin slick, but they're not coming to fight you and this like this is you'll punch and then not punch you. So you like mind I'm no I'm not quipped yet to I'm not quick chat to go in there and take out this guy on the thing that's why I mean it's just like. I need to get more punch variety will punch vo you and you know fixing the punch technique to. Someone sick like that. You know. So that's why being Glenn of like getting. Yeah of course, I wouldn't my stablemate anyway. So it doesn't matter I feel you. Go ahead I'm sorry I just want to jump in real quick a super chat from the leaker. He sends a message to says a big ups clay and God bless your mom helping in the covert wars piece up my brother can't wait to see you fight again. I I appreciate it. So, your your mom's works in the medical field luther. Yes she was on. She was out walking in the woods. She literally just retired like last month. So thank God she retired Elfi everything so. Dos Listen. Let's get to the questions we have a bunch of questions from our patriots first one is coming from victim and willows the says Canelo Alvarez versus Terence Crawford who wins in how chance That manifest. Being, not big man. I just want all the bug Crawford fans to know that when we ask Cannella versus Earl people actually think it'll be competitive. SMOKES TO? Shut up nece. Off In the UK says, what's Good Luther? Thought you put in a hell of a performance versus Congo I wanted to ask during the prefight buildup you gave Congo a lot of respect and almost play down your own skills and achievements was this a tactic on your part? Also would you move down to one forty? You already answered the one forty part was data tactic. Wasn't a tactic minor Before I was boxing up until. Up until like. Four five years ago I was the boxing fans alike when I when I'm in when I'm preparing for these fires on my oh yeah. These guys are good. I'm just. The why I'm just humble I wouldn't even say humble 'cause I disliked box in finding when I'm looking at it is on what good maybe I need to be a little bit more confident by herself but stay. On. Initially in uncharted territory on winging it is I wonder you guys nets you guys were doing the boxing board awards and then you just decide to tell them pro every time you talk about fire you analyze them, you know what I mean about it. That's one coming from and no never go through employees. Clay you really listened to. He's. So Now, was you would have one go we come in for you? Listen to the show. I'm sorry we picked the wrong word it. Go go go with the next one. Do Me No. Yeah. They're their draw backs was coming in from George Foster in the UK he says would you take the Connor Ben Fi it presents itself and the money is right. I'll be honest with you mild China by House. So bring on Ben Man. Say I'M GONNA aggressive. Fight off. Khanna's unaggressive explosive thousand action fight. Like. I'm here for the flight. If they want now's a good time for taking. Notes ousted that they should be taken the fight if they wanted. On the ready. But yeah, outside I find a hobby of. Be Him Off La from the. Boxer More variety and after I would get to after. Him. If you're. Elbow Wall, both of you come forward swinging. Interest I think it's wider than you though I think you probably will get down the middle he likes to get really why with his punches You're Kinda like down the pipe and you stay low or stood low with the with the Congo fight. Yeah Up. This is a great fight. It'd be action. And look. See as the books in leaf claim We keep saying that he fights we keep saying yes to these five. So if if it was a fighter to the made, we only be an action packed fight. There's only one reason why it's not being made. Glue. It doesn't want it their. Fight I don't think they want fights. Damn. Any fights okay. Next coming in from gene's Valdez Antonio Texas says Salute Chen thanks for coming on the show I thoroughly enjoyed your last fight and look forward to your next. My question is, where did the Black Panther reference? Confess I forgot to ask you that? I wanted that to. Think. Well, you know when when I moved to England I'm from South Africa by odd move into like a very like super white town like those I know black kids and all getting bullied and somehow come across like watching the Black Panther like Paul Eum. Movement in America and lock always like like. I don't know that kind of gravitated towards me ring on that. Yeah. I'm going to be the black pound for it was before you came out so it. came out as though that's. What I can stupendous. Right the next one's coming in from Ryan Aerobic in the UK, what's up Luta from Liverpool you and Dylan White both have two losses which done define you as a boxer although some people who are fickle does his ambition is still world title. What's yours Lonsdale belt I then see what happens. Think losses can find new lucky if you take it in a lot, they lose going to hide in own come down vol. You realize walks in you know you get in a car, you might get a car to them. No me you might in a car. It doesn't mean. You don't want WanNa drive again. So for me I'm in good spirits learn from this. Within the see where we go next and come to titles. Title Nicole Bites Abou-. About fights that you win in the. Best Way to so if I forget pretty If, I could get another life WBO WPA everytime. The day that the thing that the France Cariballo is the fights. WHO's the Lonsdale right? Is the Jenkins Loofah Kris Jenkins yet. What do do you think about the Lonzo but like the way it looks Very cool I think it's a lot of people hate it or love it. Is Unreal you. Both I mean. It is so rare meaning I like today I mean. You just belt. I think precise the tight as British the Lonsdale belt. Probably, the. Best Belt to win because. You could have you could have like the EIB todd, which is above it but the. Woman care as much as if you the British pound. The everyone recognizes. Start to learn. A hassle much issue behind it is the history behind the vote and the way that you have to defend it three times against mandatory or wherever until it's yours to keep. So you don't just win it and then you can five bombs, win it and you. So, that's what's up I. Did knows three fights I thought you had to I thought you I thought you had to win and then defend it, and then that was it you have to defend. Three times. winning. You go fight the fight is. Then you can keep it then it's yours to keep you know. Ski You remember Bradley Skeete with the British title. Defended the two times and then they were saying, go five money puck you. Know it's defendable. Instead of find out and he lost. His airman. And back a big nick from the UK says, thanks for coming on the show mysticlake. A loss doesn't define you, but there can't be any backward steps from here champ. Eddie doesn't have a big stable of welterweight fighters has there been any contact from Eddie to get you on his shows again. I. Speak to promote. Is something I don't like doing because I've got five these friends. Not You know. Eddies Eddies because he talks defy any tokes everyone you're the principal. While I kinda let management handled out I didn't talk to know Komo News until tonight manages. Management handle that and then converse. That way. So right now, even if the husband doubt more manager will be telling me anything because he's let me cool down right now and Yeah I mean. Who See my Lucy? What's next man see what's next on show out something lined up in the pilot for me right now let me get my downtime. So we'll see soon. He's doing. He's doing a good job for you like I watch a lot of interviews this week and you know. It seems like to me is a great manager to have like so. Shout him as. A The bottom of that question I slipped me luther. He says, ps a needs you to be Congo in my bed crying emoji. Shut out the big man. Who Was My my my luther clay is Ted cheesman. He'd ruin my my Of year ago. Begging me. No. Now you I said, my Luther Clay. Is Ted Cheesman I put Apollo cheesman. Any I should have never done that he killed it. Next was coming from Tracy says Yo really you know I really enjoyed your fight. My question is, do you see a fight with Ray Robinson or Josh Kelley in the near future? Tracy. TJ. I'm. Trying to remember that. Somebody I mean yeah. Five percent. Yeah. Five railroads. By you know he's the guy that arguably got robbed the versus Kelly Ray Robinson is. Arguably got robbed by Cavalier. Terrence Crawford's of training. Mak says that that that re Robinson beat Kavaliauskas? Offing. Think. He beat. Velazquez. That fight. Thank you become last roll, which is which says a lot like you say because woke less than two and obviously. The Kelly for. What you may recover. Ask Corey Crawford. Nano did drop off of that was accounted as no now down. It wasn't the down you. Know down to me it's. It's funny. I'm sandbagging you every fight that talks about it says it was a knockdown, but the REF and the judge didn't count as a knockdown just saying q the be doing. And guess who is the same way that? You guys think about the magical fighter I. Mean it was it was definitely a clean not down I mean a clean punch. Fight over all like magic move was looking as good as I thought it was time. Advertise that's the thing when when we over hype a fighter, then he's gotta meet these unrealistic expectations but you know as a five zero fighter taking on every Walker. He did really, really good. Yeah But. Is it a contender he was in debt. Good good fire. So yeah, we got. hoops ours are that. I was just real fight. I was high on back in the day IT Super Midway. Will be a thing. Wasn't it? From Long Beach Long Beach. I don't think he's super middleweight, but you've got gotta be talking about the cannon you're talking about Brandon Adams. A If. Brandon. Fifty. Four. Pounder Yeah, he moved up. Do you know contenders though they both. Brandon Adams one he didn't lose he beat the concise. And and Brandon eventually moved up to sixty and lost jamaal Charlie as an since then. We we got two more for you. Klay looks like Georgia Nov Dallas Fort Worth and I believe someone else told me to refresh in says you got that one Yeah I got this here who who This is George. In Dallas Fort Worth. Texas says who wins Loma or Te'o female. Man That means you want to say, FEMA. Listen. I don't have no allegiances to. Judo is my my head says Loma. says something about your feet can do it. You'll kill more peace man and as a piece. Your Lomas Loma. So I started I really. Don't know. We don't know. Learn ways like Josh Kelley on steroids many older finger. You say Joe. Skinny. Those inspiring Luma does it All the time show for sure. You're female Cat Luta. Don't let them sway you. Is is is tear few sway me because often I think. Lomas done as a fighter is funded does loss awebber I think he's done to the fight is dry legendary. With something about your units here for you just go swag a slide guys enough to sway any of in not a division wouldn't even sway you know. So it's Te'o Fema. Next coming in from coach Myers says good morning, chant US fighting a great fight and on that last round, I was screaming at the TV for you to take a knee and gain your composure. Trainer ever mentioned when you hurt to take a knee throughout the fight instead of trying to fight fire with fire I. believe if you took a neither outcome would have been different. y'All like you know that ninth-round. Those like twenty seconds left you know go down. In the nine from Nagano down. But I was coming forward I was coming from I just go core with and I just go cool coming in without paying attention coming back. So maybe I just very head all over time being fully done this, but there's no point it's done. You know it's. The. All right. Next I think this is the last one I believe so. this is from the rich kid says, who do you think it's better Congo or just Kelly He Ain't GonNa go against stable stablemate. Not Listening closely. It's not even like that. Okay. Look Okay. They both they both elite amateurs right and both gray boxes ball I'll. Get into Congo those things doing that he wasn't liking. I haven't been able to do that to Kennedy. Sparring bar SPA but. I mean you sparring Kelly but you're not going ten or twelve rounds with Kelly right. They take. Alternating so you really don't know if in the later rounds you conditioning is better where his seems to be poor Tom and Tom Again, he gets in the later rounds and people are catching up to him. So I mean I know he's stable may you might be seeing something different but don't don't don't count yourself out because you're not going ten or twelve with Kelly like he might be doing better than you. In the first two rounds, coast puts you in there if he does four straight, but you know you need a full fight with Kelly man watches fights he he kind of starts to slow down towards the later half for the fight and that's where a well conditioned fighter. Can you know take a little bit of advantage? Any likes the beach flashy with the hands down. That's cute for Roy Jones but he's getting. He's getting touch for trying to use that style I don't know but I hear you man stable love. Yeah you try to. Be. Negative What's What's what's the name of Kelly's trainer? Booth. So he's he's not training you though, right. I'm not as trainers in jail at a Martin and then I didn't move from items. I. I might do a little more welcome item just welcome. My defense from A. I might take to which. You know hating the. I've done like a couple of rounds of positive of hey, Dj there will move out. No. The thing. The style they teach. Is really like I've never really trained because. The style that you like the hines down the Phnom reflexes. But they do a lot good defensive is just had never imploded in the process that didn't want it to affect on game this particular fight, you know make sense. Well Luther Man please give out your social media. Those are all questions and the People's Question WanNa. Thank you obviously for coming on and remind you once again that you put on a great fight, keep your head up listen a lot of those questions were from the UK and from the US where we're all established here except for obviously coach Midi. So you fight definitely made it across the pond and I. would. I would say this is your Diego. Says moment you know I think Diego Chavez performed very well in laws to Keith Thurman and from there he ended up getting I think a Bradley Tim Bradley fight a Brandon Rios Fighter and someone else all back the back so. Hopefully, these doors of opportunity opened up for you because you did put on a great performance I want to see you again personally when you do I will be tuned in regardless if it's a fifty fifty or a tune-up to get yourself back into the mix you've made me a fan. So thank you once again, gentlemen. Shaved my now my twitter Klay Night Five, a Ma Instagram is black panther. Boxing Nassir Hoop. Of An ankle. Wait to see you again champ champ take. Bob. Now Good Guy Man. Good guy and. You know look suffering loss is tough but it's like I said that says the charges moment to me you know he performed well, obviously. You know. Congo is not Thurman in the division yet when Diego face them but. Luther performed in a manner that definitely want to see him again. Bro Is small. articulates you know like any good make level headed, right so he's got a good approach to the rest of his career. So I'm sure he'll do well. In a hearing that is like Maui, the atom booth, Jim, and knowing like what is manager I'm sure you'll bounce back. So you know all the best to him. We got some super chats that neither nor neither do me A. Check those out while you get those up I, will say that I appreciated Luther candidness for him to come out and say listen I I've you know spiraled sparked several rounds know with Josh Kelly and you know I'm just not there yet I appreciate that kind of honesty it's that That leads to kind of work that can develop. Because if you're there and you're like, Oh, I'm good I'm I'll fight that guy yeah. If I him off, I have to like you know what do you really get out of that to think you're better are think and that's great. The confidence is great and you need that head into a fight. But in the training you know that doesn't help you and it doesn't help you to just brush off fat somebody else's levels above you. You're right right. But it is one thing knowing and thinking and talking like that we've you team and another thing maybe giving too much respects in breast to a fighter because right now in a stable for sure and anything you say now you can play into the mental aspect like few years down the line those guys Nsm Division, those guys going for the same kind of type of titles that makes sense. So. Yeah. Like you know it's great to be honest and isn't it as dude? Anyway that's cool. But you know sometimes you don't have to saving that. You don't have to call him out but you don't have. Certain things. That's fair. Real quick. Super Chats that I think you guys may or may not have gotten to Benfica says battle with the Chin twelve round split decision. What up TV would up chat I think he said that three hundred emojis and a piece on Supermac says Mario my boy whether it's pushups your money or your moustache. A stash. Cash on the line. Log Back to work champ. Easy. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you guys. Go So. Yeah. He said whether it's your Mustache Spence will win whatever bet we have bud ain't that do just a flop like Khan. Jarrett Loy versus. Jerry is Andrea Ward has a masterclass instructional video on how to be a good boxer in. Crawford. Has a master trash video on how to fight bums off the street. It also includes ducking techniques and low balling tips when negotiating. Guy Is probably like riding at home. On breaks. Those are good. It in Florida says you. Where you're Super Chad's bombs with a ten dollar supercharge was that that was magician in Florida says. Where you're super chat sat bums with big ten dollar fatty. Then we got Australia which we did say to live to clay. Luckily, we got to that while clay was on next one is from boxing expert which needs do me because it says here, crawfish known low tomb bottom say about whole. Scoop. He says Crawford didn't get dropped he just bent down spit. Laughing Aloud Emoji. So, yeah. All right. Let me refresh one more time and then. Yeah, let's go to this and the means. Joke. Shared lowest making but I wonder if he's talking about the Andre Ward paid video y'all seen that he's running like a class now. Yeah. He's yeah. I wonder if that's what he's talking about I bill. Is. Actually been thinking about dog. Training like I, get it. I know. But again, you learn something from Andre War but I'M Real trainer. that. Pay For. Could always learn from anybody. Somebody like him but there's nothing like hands on exact. But see the only reason I is because like I'll find myself with the house. Okay. Like right now well by. By it. Just by then I'm trying. Very. Lucky. Know what he's convincing himself. So just buy a bumper or or. Put It on the boxing voices. And we break it down as video and then I get to use it anyway play or if I get to stay tuned for something that I got working. As soon, stay tuned next year six, minute video Max year, he'll be dropping a fifteen second teaser telling you to stay tuned again eight. If I were you do me right here on air our dropped his ass as a as a border wars student I mean you. Got A, super chat from Vincent. Vincent Big Mac. Access payday boys. got paid their Friday night. Rich. Kid, we're rich kids say down. Mr Cyp on a kick counter. Pinch. I never saw Mr. I realize something like this realizing. I. Will planes but bigger fighters to put down at all the time he'll. He'll. He'll give compliments. It all the time. I realized. Garrett lowly disrespects every single person that blood is fall every single day. He'd be little bullets competition every day necessarily never had a problem with that I it just because he disrespect he disrespect anybody that is faced day I. Want to hear you tell that man stop disrespecting other boxers just a put down my man bud. Let's. Share. That wouldn't be fair because your argument is every fighter you put down any want to win the argument where he's just specifically talking about one do over and over. If you want to win an argument a day you put down someone that you big dope yesterday totally different but you know thank you sa- Chapman coach Myers says here we go the nets versus CYP debate to crying laughing Emoji. To Amin in Essex what's up real quick down we gotTA. Finish all this. We never went to any other stuff. Did we did we gentlemen? Did We? Did Not. 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Thrashing like always do Y'all have boomerang meets I'm tired of giving his men my money because he understand what I'm saying you ain't got to get. You gotta stay the audience gets dog want me to kill him I. Got I got the files killing day job with entertained it. Okay. No comment. Mr Ego Maniac. To do with the body Camman, super chat from Jarrett. Lloyd tell CYP layoff the core liquor Bum Lord. Crawford is trash man hit Carl Thomas one time for his daily emotions. And Go we're going to I mean the King of Essex to. Some Ching Ching is. You have to stay spiritually. Who's he talking to? I mean you available. A I mean. Absolutely. Hold on one second at work. All good. Dan. I mean is like a psychiatrist he was like you have to remain spiritually and I'm like, Whoa? Okay. Worker. Maybe shot out. Shy We'd be like a preacher. What if I mean we're a preach. That would be crazy. Crazy. Caesar. Las Vegas what up. Let's chat you fill me. ERA We wanted to come back. Don't you under our gouache you underdog was the stome box in. What what? Would it? Danny Danny Danny. There is a live dog forbid it just really depend I would if I was going to bet them, I'll wait till to catch somebody slipping like on the night before type bit you can catch it. If you would still vegas time you know you get crazy best on fights that they just be played. Now just to get people to take best at the last minute sometimes they'd be good he tries but a lot of times you can get some money and. Looted Klay was aggressive. He was. Out I like his honesty saying that he needs to give better but. Josh Kelly is not I want to disrespect them and say not a good fighter, but he keeps his hand down he did lose. The Ray Robinson he was sure to Kavalyauskas loss and we were sure that just Kelly lost too. So it wouldn't. It wouldn't even. To Me Bald. Lost A ray. Robinson he wanted to guys who always get cheated. That's why I say on care but don't even face kill. We're GONNA. Get Roberson, a million, knock him out and then go ahead and target daren soon as we can get a crowd good job with the interview man, he bring in guys who smart who can who can Who can put out there what they're trying to accomplish, and I'll see some good days for him. He can. He can beat somebody's wealth away guys we see running around over again America. So hopefully, you get that opportunity I catch. Stone Bone so I'm just happy. So many people were high on them like even after loss you know he's got a lot of love for my audience to watch them participated in our life I chat. So that's that's what's up man because you know he spoke about depression and and you know suffering the loss and stuff like that and being inside your head. So you know shutout Luther. Looks like we got Stephen Chicago. Hate Daddy this adult arthri. Still. Yeah. Good. Morning How's it going? Good. So, we're talking Danny and spent. Then, spence more about. More about the fact that Danny's a bigger betting favorite than Statin Garcia was. How do you feel about this? Yeah. I that make sense to me. I I'm not surprised by that at all but why do you think that's so that makes sense why because right like Danny was never on the pound for pound this Mikey was you know? Yeah but I think they're looking at the. You know Danny. He's already mixed up with with the welterweight Mikey never had mixed it up with the welterweight. In, he was coming up but. I will say this I think fights GonNa go twelve rounds. At I don't see a knockout coming in that fight. I. Got Spence winning but I think it's GonNa go the full twelve. That's what I'm thinking. Stop. I'm saying there won't be a stoppage is what I'm saying. All. Right. Well. As far as the is I, mean that's that's not a shocker to me. You think they're gonNA get a favor of earl could fight gets closer. To Lay Tom Limit. Lewis. White House. I'm okay man. I'm pumped at Y'all. On the show man I wouldn't expect that he won me over the fan. I didn't even know who he was before the fight of me and my brother were bed. The whole family was watching the fight and brother had money on Congo money on clay got funny little clip of it. I'll send y'all after the fighting and everybody was Klay Fan I. Think he was the better fighter Congo's a little bit too big. He called him so anyhow, South Carolina. Man I'll be on his career. You'll have a good one. He was. Conga just caught them. Heck. No Congo was nailing him with a left Hook bub-bubba Claes dog. That's why we like them I think I you know him him maybe like Beltran moving up to to two or. MEMPHIS I might be too much right whereas. I don't even know Beltran's too much like that kind Beltran never been a career wealth where he started, but it doesn't matter. He's got that kind of. That's your inexperience. Yeah. That that. Those are the type of you can lose to a guy just based off of tactics and strategy. What I saw as a lot of hard and toughness. He has some good legs I think he just needs to tweak a little bit little tweak work a little bit more on defense I. Don't mean totally go into defense mode because I don't think that's what he wants to do, and usually as coach you don't WanNa take too much of that away from them. But if you get them in there a little more careful more fading Morris. Cannella style Stylus entering entry into into the fire. into the phone booth then he he could do some damage bro that. Who was that last call? Is On. You're hitting the dance she. was that last call that last call was rick and? My radio. Joe Honestly. It's crazy that that sounded exactly like like my my boxing Saturday's like the whole family gets together watches it. You know what I'm saying we make embeds we get don't Denver's yeah. We already have like we used to cut up papers was. You know. Real. Quick on October man we're going to do that in. October. Me You can't. My Gene Ho. Ho For all. Right Megan. I run into a mean in Newark. Bro. Yeah like. I'm dropping my girl off at the job and they goes on this shit off the work to is schilling. Recognizable voices so real quick, real quick anybody on blog talk. Remember you got gotTA press one. If you'd let us know that you want to talk to five six I, think that's Boeing Bama double check because you know he's a ringer. Looking. Real quick super several forces motivated by majestic influenced by the TV family stopped shoplifting. then. Brandon. Maurice comes back says counterpunch for CYP go ahead and smoke since I'm not available at the moment Jarrett Loyd you seriously need a woman. Like this is what I'm saying their obsession with me is insane. We're not even talking but today we barely talk Danny early because we had an interview but they're obsessed with me I mean I don't mind. Let's. Know that all helps with the popularity and building the brand if I didn't adolescent. Say. What's that song? If you ain't got no hitters, you ain't poppin and. And Brandon's you know in a little gang adduced behind me then I wouldn't be popular. So thank you Ma'am for like shows though like people will get you know like if you'll win an argument with somebody or debate or let's say like you say something to somebody they don't like like date day WANNA use like brandon or CYP or Jay Mak like to get back at you know what I'm saying like like they represent there s what it is. They're listen brandon when he's available in Cyp when he's available are the bud tenders defense attorney. They play. Defense. You know they get on there and they build the case until you why everything that I said is nothing but lie and I'm a hater there the defense attorneys but I gotta do that for a while to Thurman, Danny etc etc like tank weaned gotta do that. Let them waste their time. See that's what I'm saying. We're talking about a completely different topic, but they'd rather talk about that because you know obsession. It overtakes the mind nine, hundred, seven on the obliged talk CYP on. skype. This. Little. Brassy is what Accu credential this is why race statement you can't put me down. Do come off. The only thing little to pick me. Youtube. Show to mighty too. So you haven't, but my skin is into your account bigger than your. So I don't understand little if you really WANNA, debate me they put me on the wisdom equity deputy son quick said everybody knows taking me but they about nothing you. Paid about your child was born, I'll get more information about window tab harder because I'm if they wait a day was crucified you on your own Life C. Walkies team. Games. Spider. Footage or what we do know one thing that you little than me your smaller than men and that size, and that's the biggest problem that you have the little man complex. You know that you're very small when it comes pairs when it comes to me and that's why you pump all the. As you look the way you look because you're mad you're so small. Well my team. What up? Okay. I just jumped on I didn't get a chance to hear to hear the the Luther Klay young deaf and going back. He got a fan got fan for life here. I hope I. Hope he say anything about. Coming over to the states again getting. With another trainer maybe like Rob Garcia, which I think would fit him. Beautifully Nah. He's You know his trainer who also he gets out from Adam booth. So he's with like Alan. Alex. Okay. Guys Gray show. All right CYP counterpunch from the first one was from someone and then you've got another one. Oh, oh he's hidden. Hey, hey, no doubt about US sixty five folks whatever you definitely bigger than a lot of people. But Hey, how did it? Who the data say minute who looked at me? May I could our one me out? You probably, Agean investable basketball at best one the probably you're probably win because that's just a society I, don't do the basketball number but but let anything else. Mass you know one man in his arms who look like you over my six hundred dollars lifted s I've been looking like this is key you can admirable me. Newly shape I am a walking and walking post. So you, WanNa. Have a push up contest or 'cause it's. Young. What's that thing? Whenever like people get together it's like a triathlon is that what it is where it's like you do three different things, right? Oh Nessie Y. P. Border Wars. I. I that's listen. They gotTA play. All he got. Back and he had a joust. He won't make it through the first challenge man my ironman the first challenges church. I'm a real man I'm. I don't screaming show a play, a man's game chess on o'clock but no, no no. But that's that's what I'm saying is we gotTa pick your thing, which is what we got to pick his team, which is a tracker across country I can't remember. In any given moment talk to me? I. Don't play Little Kid Games understand I'm forty fuck I looked like running on the track you try and. Try to hold onto your not I'm bird. Who took. Do a foot race my man like listen dog box number you just nonsense man look at all the fucking clown emojis and laughing out loud. Why would you want to be the butt of a joke? Every recall Majed in Florida talked to me. Would would. Appreciate. The show Walmart work I have fun with the Little UK people trolling and everything Syria but Yeah. Man My call today is it ain't even about the topic y'all need to get these likes up subscribe. You know what I'm saying and then you K- Yup we talking trash what's up with those donations stop shoplifting everybody stopped shoplifting show some love man that's all I got though we'll work today your. Penders, counterparts from Bo and Bama for the CYP. He meant. Thursday. Friday today's Friday. But he put Wednesday's show I don't know. Oh, that's not a count upon sorry. That was just a donation to the C. P. Wednesday's show. Sorry not counterpunch guys get super mix. Of Mr. Supermac. says. Let's settle this once and for all out shipping if others will how much for the on demand ness versus CYP debates show. How contribute? Here's the thing though on the you for say I would rather see all debate something that like. Like debate style where they get like random topic. I. Wouldn't want a topic to be given. This is what we should do if we would ever do that show we'd give like list of topics to you a list of topics to see why P and we just picked three of them. So at least could be familiar, but it's got to be on the spot. You know what I'm saying you know I know nothing to come in with like. fucking Microsoft word. powerpoint projections. But at the same time I, also know that if he has some preparation it'll. Both debates would be better that way. Know get some room and Lord. You have real quick jared Lloyd on the Super. Chat says, Cyp got all of these counter-punches and still says, nothing female energy is where he provides hit the call Thomas one time in his honor to the bud tenders. Your favorite fighter is daffy. Duck Aka the Nebraskan ill billy. Jerry Lloyd just goes on like our long runs with with the call Thomas on. Then, he gets a New York City first time caller a nine one. Sierra. Yet Day who's this ladies and Gentlemen Making Professional. With Your boy David Maldonado. Albina. Everything good man I'm on my break by now. So maybe it'll call. What's Today topic? Danny Garcia being a bigger bedding favorite. Then Mikey Garcia was when he was facing earl. Strongly agree for one Gani, Garcia, he the welterweight. He's begging make you. He got a hell of a punch and I, know you guys don't watch old school fight but I see this fight as being another terry note versus Salmon. Brown everybody thinks that. In a bull then Garcia. Ain't nobody more forty seven levels ahead of you. Ever. Zero had movement. I've seen this leg, join us to Jelly a couple of times and I got a feeling that Danny goes is long overdue for big upset victory loan for. David. But you gotta be Puerto Rican I see your questions on Patriots. I am because. Dany Garcia bias comes out. Now. I'm not going to be biased because personally I think I think Terence Crawford with beat everybody at one forty seven until he finds and whenever he. Lake. But I think Danny goes got a chance 'cause like I said they will spend doesn't have movement you're talking about like flowing floyd, but he's not gets. His legs were buckled in. So important and Sean couldn't even hurt that white boy book. Day. Look his name you ever do Melo for mellow and. For me? Yes. He not sharp but he couldn't hurt. You as much time as I could champ because I know you really call in and that was cool. You know I was expecting. More. Latino. Voice, he's more the New York City Guy. Now, we gotta find out where you from. Your. Under. Yeah. No that sound the New York heavy heavy. Is it Philly though I mean as definitely East Coast is what are we? To north. Do, Ben Peta Lico says. Higher. Dr Phil to judge the debate See people to supercharge says needs money to debate me call it cash out that was. That was a box and bar combat. Oh okay. 'cause he body with six sisters. Let's go to. The Ringer sixes through. The Ringer, a Josh in North Carolina with up. TV Mario Straight you better than. I her many talk about it I gotTa stop being a little too because I'll be on Bluetooth phone call. The topic top first of August interview with. I'm a fan of his that was real good interview. Daddy to. Call Disease Call in even though he Puerto Rican he talking through. That's one that scares me about aerospace. You don't have to move. I wouldn't mind putting money on Danny would I knew I think not but I can see a minute I'll quick question. The final ESPN plus tomorrow. Leave finally. Yeah ESPN plus. is a different. Card. You. Earlier car. Aren't. Great. So how the town, right? Yeah. Just in case you are wondering of we will be doing live fi chats I'm assuming we're GONNA, do the Dubois right. Fight Chats not, Mary what's that? Alifi chat is when the TV panel has a sit down show while we watch the fights along live with the listeners and we all. Talk about it and commence and make fun of their shorts. So essentially, like we compensate for the whole highly and and a lot of times a week if good feedback a lot most often you know and they tell us that sometimes they just mute the TV and listen to us commentate. So Oh, they don't know. There've been. Saying that they loved it and I'm talking about the fighters that we've been compensated non. That's been pretty cool. Man Getting Creepy. They listen man Luther when I was there. Yes. Oh. League. He's like Bro. I was just I just. I just wanted to do good. So they don't be like who the fuck his luther clay. And I read. The three messages. I, let me read a roadway. Just. Hold that. Christopher. I'm so sorry he's super chatted damn an hour ago. Using the cash APP. He didn't want us to get banged in ahead bribe by Youtube for thirty percent of your hard earned money that you want to go to us. We gotTA give thirty. Youtube. So he used cash with the cash sign ness GTO and said for TBB's Salute Earl will finish his mission keith necks. So, he's been he doesn't want he want Kief next shot out to Christopher. We got another one from Ken Stone The says Ness the Dominican Jim Lampley Bang Bang Bang Bang. To. Sin emojis Yo. Let me see. We got blocked talk. Who Mario while I go to? A mean in the search knows. Did we go to you. Yes sir. All right. ONE TO BE X. Wanting to be a just listening going once Jay MAG Gimme a flash if you ready. New Orleans. Wine is ready. Jay Mac hold on. Go for one. We. What does? Back. Oh. Yes. Let's go. I. Think that our CEO. Definitely she. John Mikey Garcia because he was coming up in wait just like everybody says. Everything he saw wasn't it to see. But that's my call I just wanted to. Be. Switching I felt like I heard crickets in his back I. Thought I was the only. Would I wait a minute? She's Bush's right now. That's A. No No. That's Zorro Zorro what up? NATO. Going on everybody. WOULDA. Hurt. Man That Danny Garcia Aerospace won't be a good fight I don't think anybody. Should have aerospace. Via nobody's GonNa fighting either one. So I don't know how Danny has been preparing for the fight, but he has to come in here knowing that you can't lose no more in the with visit. He's got to win a fake. So I think he's GonNa come in there and try to put Aero Outta Eros gotta understand your coming off of his injury, but I still got to perform. So I believe it's going to be a twelve round fight. I don't think nobody's GonNa Knock anybody out and who just going to get probably a split decision. That's how I see it. I, don't see barrel run it through invite because I haven't seen Arrow run through one, forty, seven he did and run through Psalm Porter. He caught he caught a couple of guys before and he was it was a good fight with him group, and then you finally broken down but I don't see nobody at one forty seven. Run into each other. All of them are good fights. It looks like everybody is on par with each other and there's no runaway. That's my call. GotTa walk the dog y'All boys the. From Utah. Kobe y'all say. You tune out Zora a real quick I found it real quick. So this is ness messaging luther clay right and I'll just say who it is and then read the message. So this is a luther you dig on, I'm sorry ness you did great man you've made me a fan luther. Thanks guys, ness great fight I loved your pressure. Luther. A glad. You know who I am now been listening to all your show saint who the fucks luther clay. Back hopefully work my way up to contender again soon, love the show anyway guys and the Nessa let's schedule. Look. Like the fourth or fifth fighter since the bubble I think that has come on in in or not even come maybe they've come on or maybe they've just said it in private saying like y'all went back and listen to. y'All slide shadow fight and so far everybody's been cool about it. You got to federal leakers, Dr Phil Tweet. Yes and coach Myers that's the one that I haven't Cyp sounds like a scorn child. Just what exactly are you so upset with ness for Bro? Laughing, Emoji? He doesn't know why he's mad at me. He knows that I'm the host. So he's like I gotta show the world that I'm better than this guy. So every day that's his his job it's cool. Man Listen you need a nemesis in the world, right? That's how you grow. You know rocky had Apollo and then he had drag. Oh, you know you need that. Club Elaine Yeah you know clubbing lane. James Benitez. James says going once twice boxing expert with the supercharged gentleman says are CYP's silly I say I would like. La. Hashtags who? Basically what he's saying is that. Cyp is a scaredy cat. You're such a liar. Look, it could be a scary K. it could be he's a he's a coward or Say He's a pussy. You're still lying where are you getting this from because you don't know the lingo. You. EXPERT NATIONALITY IS E. If I, tell you if I'm talking with you and I. Think you decide I right and that's why. I'm explaining to you about the learn a little bit of our culture. If I say Yo if we're about to go do some some some dirt and I see you nervous and I say you can get the Passover. WanNa. Know what I'm saying then how would you translate that? Shit you. Are you scared right now you shane yourself with our like your voice exactly I think you saying I think that's what he's telling them. I think WHO's the Shannon? Is. King. Filming. In Den. Cannon y'know. It's He'd He'd love to meet you. How are you chant? We. Go we lost on the? twisty. twisty right now. Yeah put on one of the fly caps. We will you? ooh No. Go look guys. Chatman. Every time you come on I gotta eggs about the hat man when you're going to send us the length. So we can start buying a hat man I'll what that shared dot com. Let me see I'm checking right now cvs telling. Your Shannon Briggs. Dot Com let's go. Let's see. Last Johnny wasn't on edge. I don't know the. I. Our season with these hoodies fly though hell? Yeah. I do like the hoodies was not as much as that had ensured man that logo was the one hour on. Brother. y'All want this Brownsville mets color. So. That I want that's the cat for sure. US Go nowadays. These other hoodies I like the Logo Champ I. Like how you got it like it looks like a certified you know kind of official stance almost type thing that's what's up. Because you've got the gritty logo mean you've got. Thank you brother Shannon Briggs dot com, check it out John. He got the phone cases going on are sending I'm screen sharing all the products and we do not see those has we do see a lot of hoodies you definitely got variations of the hood he got. No. Pay Somebody could give me this this mug any of my, my my you know I drink coffee man let's go champ all city boxing, Maga I liked that I liked it. With the hand holding. Okay. Look at the Hoodie right next to it though that gray with blue. A chance champ I need that Cup of Coffee Man. Mario this. SAYING LITTLE CAMPING MY CUP Got Some let's go. Chip sucks. Rock does from sure. You Ain't got my hand Cham- hats. I still don't see my hat man. I'm sorry. I. Apologize They might not. Oh. He got his. Leg Is. and. I watch is going down inside a brand maurice you better get some of these for your lady may look at that. Here we go Dan you still. Playing champ now. UPDATE 'EM how train house training go a champ chain training is going well I've been doing a lot of businesses. The hats but I just got some news that it's all inspiring. Just got super motive. I'm frightened. November. What I'm saying I. that's not the nothing's changed but is training is on a lot of you guys at my age forty, eight thousand is been hard I'm doing it every day I'm pushing forward on. Session this morning. Nice running session say that but. I'm feeling good. My weight is down I'm looking forward to it. Right he's got some some good moves that just got me motivated man than ever so long I'm just pumped up there. I was like I'm ready to go who in that news as sheriff yet. I'm sorry. At NewsAsia terrible yet. Not yet, not yet. GotTa be. So who your training with though you went back to. Herman. Herman his training holy feel right now I heard. What I heard that as this morning so you just heard the. Her. Awesome right now. trae today. You know I changed his name from Hermann a German. Holy. Bill. been looking good to lately I mean not champ good. You know what I'm saying but few look champ. Good. I'm ready right now to. Shake. My old same eight off the. Storyline was crazy is really don't even know. I know. All worked. and. I know. Let's see if he hit me back. A little bit of time. But your good though like you don't feel no type away right? Like he didn't have to call you or or you think you should have gotten a call. I think he should have called me. Growing. Want to do but. I would have called them but but you know what it is, Shannon? I. Feel. Old. I'M GONNA. Be Honest feel like us on the show. One of these days and you said, you mentioned another trainer you was going with. So maybe he just heard that show and her like okay Shannon going another route. So I'm free to go ahead and trae event that you did mention another name do you remember the trainer? You say you might Remember Jesse Jesse. Jesse no Jesse my man, he my or harmonised your arm down the Jim why was coming down but he said it was all in the mob. Now he got like fifteen heavyweights over there. He said they all under lockdown that nobody our by. So I took that as I can't come in and get no work. You tell me. So I was like my man I. Love Him. That's my brother. I get is you don't want me to come in the gym because they they quarantined. Indeed so I said, it's cool quarantine them. So but then he he trained to holdings made me feel also no way I'm gonNA chance planning to whichever the world but let's go traffic filming Sam. But I did say yo you know go down there and do that. You should have told me you, I'm Jay Holding me holding static before. Would have said, you said it's all good word yo he got providers quarantine for Covid nineteen and he got his heavyweights quarantine, for Shannon Twenty twenty film. FEDERAL LICO super chatted says to champ. Hey Shannon God. Bless lesko chant. Did you Holyfield was duck and you back in the day you're inside fight was impeccable champ hundred percent emoji piece emoji. Thank you brother I don't even go back in the days you feel for everybody and anybody he didn't turn down he was. Never, rolls for us to fight you know what I'm saying. Became wbz champ was talked about by thinking talking about them but it's just never never was on his radar. It was never on his radar. He turned nobody down everybody. He probably would've smashed me up Dan. You know say I was young I was immature young and just, but now look at me aw. One and done. Oh It's like man no, those only take is one only. One Be Lo telling you. It's amazing our discussion. I don't care what they say. You GotTa understand me how was very hold stop fighting. Like. Thank you. You. Feel me to only reason why I haven't been fighting champ is because I'm Workin I'm I'm a businessman I'm keeping my family going, but once I get everything I can. To be like with these promoters again a managers and they just have you had sand living fight. The fight has been hard for me. You're saying maybe it's because my you know there's a lot of different days but will w said I'm doing my way like Frank. Sinatra so I'm GONNA come back I'm fighting and shape how comfortable I always boxed under the gun I always bounce with having to make money. Always my whole career I was only Donald Speakers. Always, batching, making me a living never comfortable never saying you're just doing it because I'm having fun I never got to enjoy. So now I realize what it is, is a mental thing I need to be straight. So I could train fight ed piece not worried about investors the money I'm gonNA making how who's been self managing. Surviving so I had to self manage myself. So promote myself I was nobody making me famous. It was me. You'll let me go back on the door. Let me go get involved magazine gq magazine. Let me go get on this TV show let me New York on the cover I'm a New Yorker I was going out in Haslett put myself out there with other fighters don't do that. and. That's why they become good fighters because you could you got to concentrate on your on your cries. If I'm out here, hustling, hustling, making deals it living in a big house and driving because. I'm burning the candle both ends and I'm talented what hustle you can't do it. I see I feel you on that. Champ. Though that I remember speaking a few weeks back in you saying that one of the biggest issues with your career was that you weren't able to ever fully focused strictly on training because you know you had to worry about living right. But now you're in a situation where you know you have positive things outside the ring but isn't it kind of the same thing where your direct your attention is being pulled in different directions or how is it different from back then because? And this is d. To saw nothing into others but it's real real simple real simple thousand simple but his deep. You gotTa have a team. You gotTa have. The right team. Love. You could be all your life and never have the team. You gotTa have team players. You GotTa know how to work with the people you work. Israeli mcgeough quick analogy. It's like. It's like Baking Kate. You'RE GONNA saying. You gotTA. Have you gotta it's not you have flour. You GotTa have you gotTa have sugar over guess what else you gotTa have you gotTa have. You GotTa have a bowl. You gotTa have a spoon to mix a mix up. You get what I'm saying you can't beat a mixture, the bowl, the ads, the flower, the sugar, get me every money gotta play a part I. Feel you. Go through that man you know you need more people on your team so that you can focus on the the proper things Mansa get you to that next level man I definitely can. Relate. On my own level. But I know man you got that now and honestly, I, feel like we got that now we got a pretty solid team and we've been. Consistent since then. Chan please before. Saying side effect my medication. Let me just say something real quick. People won't get me and say you'LL SHANNON You're a fool you're an idiot because. You you. You are underachieve because. You saying you had talent, but you was doing the business he was doing. This was doing that. Let me tell you why did that? Because when I first began boxing like. Eighty seven eighty eight, right. I was seeing old men in the gym, Bassin. With nothing was old fighters they was in the gym. Trying to fight not fighting pro. Finding pro I was a kid I was walking in these old men that they was driving to fight. On certain days they was taking them to Madison Square Garden. They was taking them to other. Connecticut Jersey, driving to the Bronx and putting them on shows they was coming back or what happened. It was telling me he got knocked out. He got beat up. They were all journey. All couldn't talk couldn't couldn't walk couldn't do this journey men. They was doing this month every month and knocked out I was like Dan. Our already advanced to to the end of the career I said. So this how you end up? If you don't have a plan being if you don't have something else can fall back on. This is how you end up every Douglas. Living below the poverty line. Why? Because after the career around Train'll. What's he going to become now? Back. Your faculties off now what can you do? Technology is advanced so much that you tell personal get a job job, Google why everything is automated? So. Wouldn't tell a boxer who put his life since he was a trial ten years old eight years old twelve years. Old Fifty. Now what does he do? Now? Ask The boxing I was already thinking damn. This is the. End of the row, let me do something that I could try to make it like big, but you look at even the ones with the money. Afterwards the money go. Then what you gotTa have you gotTa have. Revenue coming in a confidence come. Influx of money coming in other than boxing to fall back on what you feel me or you're GONNA end up back in the ring living below the poverty law struggling because boxing have no. No Union. It don't have nothing for you after box you know what I'm saying. Definitely and to have that financial pressure off of you, I mean maybe not could lead to being a comfortable position and not have to fight like it's your bills on the line like it probably opens you up in a way that you might not have had that luxury before you know what I mean. You can just focus on your performance in how you win as opposed to having that pressure that can hinder you. Some people might say, Oh, well, it's probably motivating to have but no, it can be such a hindrance that that pressure and anxiety just eels. Do. A smart brother you such a smart bro You have such a good insight. You're right. You're such a smart brother because now guess what you're not being able to do. You're not being creative Creative when you're in the. You just identity create is to watch. Were Jones and be like. Wow, damn. Time wise to try to three folks my own Nazi me before. I. Went to a trainer. Saying when I I was in the gym I was you know that Russia? Is so much to win depression is off you is some ways. Again. Pressure. They say pressured buzz pipes so. Maybe. Maybe a little bit of four. Man Look Man. There's no complete recipe you thought I'm saying there's no complete recipe. We just gotTa do the best we can, and that's what I always try to do but always looked at it like Yo. This is a business that's a cruel business you end up just busy some bad shit in this game. I see. So car riches story. Yeah. I'm seldom how people move on with their lives people forget about it and that's just the world likes goats. But I've seen heart wrenching stories in the boxing game that make you say damn and then people say while going to the next week and going but heart richer stories. I see one the other day, Chan. Thank you just reminded me man. A box I forget his name, he was Hispanic Hispanic box man and. He was on the bed man on on a on a girdle and he he couldn't talk. You know there was clean his dribble up and and there was nothing forum which is nothing for them to seeing them. They're kind of like you know. Damn it looked like he wasn't even there. No more it was. Sad man is sad to see that. When you say heart mentioned it is man. It is L. Mini stories man. Benita now. More with with Frito now. Been Harmony. Stories of box you can go on and on and on. President Day President Day. So I say. This is a list of tough world we live in. So nobody getting excuses pity bodies out this Bitch Mesko Champ this elicit or I seen save this in this game. You gotta be strong motherfucker. It took me all these years to get to where I am I said say now I'm back I'm strong I'm going to be fighting was a different. A different motivation, a different amount there's no competition is just fun relaxation avid fawn and knocking out bombs and is. This bob like use that term bonds pies out of fun and enjoy myself I might go onto. My face for the next ten years Yo you. Feel going back to holy. Channel you fill me real quick. To the city show. got a super chaff. COUPLE TEDDY BE MIDWEST sportstalk said Steve Kim is the biggest just started the show. Okay. Big. SUPERMAC says was Shannon versus Tyson ever offered in the ninety S. It was it was offered in. Early two thousands when he fought who was he? Shame when. It was it was offered not in the nineties but his like in the early two thousand something like that and then was that the nineties do. It might have been the late nineties and I was I said gear, but it was just speculation and talk and all that because he was looking for coordinating. With it anybody that popped up. But you know this whole thing with Roy Jones she to me off to was was in talks and everything and own, but I don't even know if that's going down. Well, sorry about that. Was it you Roy had. I don't know something was going on with some agreements. He was he mentioned maybe not doing it, but I didn't know. Roy was that he was saying that he was never wanting the date change and if the date was changing because fanned attendance, then a whole different negotiation that's a whole different purse Basically, you were saying that if if they're going to get fans that he has the money's not right now that not only that he. said the candidate. This is they WANNA see? They WANNA see. WanNa see Mike. Tyson said Briggs. That's the fight they want to see. You show me. Being Bro. You look at. So lean. It's crazy because we see each other every Friday for the last two three months, right? Look in Lena's Hell I, say nothing to. Ten thousand years of. A look at me I'm going crazy add need to fight my dicing. Real quick swayed says Shannon need to go on the smoke box with be real let's go. Chan. been on, the smoke. was. At one point I sort of coffee and I was like. I was I wanted to be. Audited Got Good Smoke. When you hit that big call and you come back from a and you know like Shit I'm in zone now it's like you gotta figure in the right place for that. You know he's says shadow. kyw from Brownsville to Shannon. Work. That the car, the one that I just read and he's from Brownsville. So Brownsville number ran number will cut out to MEA accomplish. Yo Chant let's Let's ask you the big question. Everybody's. Asking you coming on Friday to ask What did you think of billion white champ? You'll get to see it you're. The. Call it a vicious uppercut it. That's the question they had on the Super, Chess Shannon. What do you think of the wife fight? You think he can make the changes in the rematch About and see that one. I think I think the chances to go out there. And he no one no one thing he no one. He hurt. Prevention. Hit Me. He knows that he can hurt presented because the shots heard on what was it by a big load shots he was just you know regular shots. Shots but it was one of those one of those folks. Was the checkbook. Drop them. You know what I'm saying one. He knows that he got hurt kid so now wanted. To they could knock him the fuck out. So, now my Is. Making, a gun fight early. Make. The, ones that I don't like I was I was. My Boy Dylan are tell them. You're Brosky that was settled. Roeszke. Note Everytime Dylan do this. Right this this be right here when you go to the side, what's open? The right here the right side of the. Vat. Insane. It look at the fight started snatching down to the left to the bottom. That's not he's the. I was like David PEVEC. You had time to go over the. Two Towns. When he would open and came out. Around You went up to middle So, you think he was setting them up for that shorus curse then. He wasn't he knew. That it was going to land. That's what happens when you do things. Him can be open for that side was something that he just old dillard's always been open to that this this brain that's why on inside that's why you decided. So has your body. So this about the drop down to. The level of the body with your head when you like this was going to happen. If I heard this way, you'll go to the side was nice. The body. If, you change the angle. Gas Out you do you go rep this out of my riches while that someone, you feel what I'm saying. So he kept going to the to the body I was like ooh that's that's and that's not even. Bunch against we'll. Is. That went up the Middle Hell. Yeah So now going back to the fine gunfight early, let's go camp gotta be because. It's dishes. Perfect is too dangerous. But you know you could hurt them so be on your job. Have all back to your job strategy keeping weight off a weighed and all it led him lund and try to God and we gotta take it to where we gotta take and. Heavyweight boxing. He's dangerous he no he can knock you out. You gotTa make it a gun fight early and don't cover up don't cover. This. Cover nut shape. That's not gonNa work with this bastiat. It take too. Long. He got. He was going to slow down because anybody is blocking and you and you punch him. Get in. It's GonNa cost you some money through a little bit energy, right? So causing some money so we're if doing could have surpassed that at his also thought she was GonNa take a little bit his gas now could could punch. That's why checking was getting her while he was running out of gas. His size hurt him. There was in that bid. He was gonNA dass word. He was saying I love that breakdown pathetic pathetic. Rows in heart that was around was that. So don't you think it would be smarter for him to. Kind of take him that not the full distance, but to get him beyond. His Comfort Zone because if he goes in there with a firefighter to risking that same exchange, you gotta point. But he? No he can knock you out. Okay. It could have been asleep on a moment. We him when he was an expectant added around. That way to is. Ever was. You kind of expect that but his boxing you gotta always expect. Box cared them in a v V. So. Hustle. So. He got two to three rounds and he started getting tired again, drop by not the biggest punches. Look at it not the biggest pundits was dropping because gas was going down. He came out that route he had A. Great but last bolt energy like fuck maybe and he beat the today share. He got my boy be a right. You look at it one or two ways. Go out like I'm going fucking guys like a machine and just run out there and start shooting. And he showed me it was cool man Fuck Y'all Mario. You're saying, but if I shoot him ou back right. He had nothing to lose at that point. So it's like. I'm a risk taker. Do here. Do other options like you said, like you know what this going to run out of gas I found just keep them on his heart stick. Take Off For four or five rows is bachelor. I liked that I liked that that method better man he should have just kept them at the end of the project. Is he starts to lunge in with his left Hook at times. You know when he needs to try to get his opponent I think he would have. Got Him go with a stiff jab in a right. A I would have never wanted him to be in there in the pocket where we're perfect commend I was shorter arms in the pocket I that come up Defense Merrill might this shit? Bro, that's that's a no no bro. Somebody a bunch of all. And knock you fuck out man you think more like a defensive show when you're tired maybe you could absorb some punches man off the ropes. But yeah, you got to know how to use dead are you can't just stick with it? In certain situations, real quick champ I got a Benfit Lico says champ. Fight Colleen Mahan triple piece emoji. That's my dream fight. Who's calling me Han? Anybody. Know who Kelly Miana's going to have to look that up Yeah Ken says Shutout Chat. Bka. All Day oh. Let's go champ. Look at it Yup. Bottomless Kompyang. Brother. And that that's for the super chats right now, I'll find out who the heck is Kylie me Han. Up. Your Cold Get back to work saying no problem Chapman as always, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Appreciate you. Got You the best. Thank. No pile. Yeah. Right. All right. Okay. Me You know this guy is. He's forty two and six, thirty, two Cao's from New Zealand six, five, eighty, one, inch reach my man looks like. He's like a straight up hitman got their serious look on the box rick. Oh snap. He fought Joseph Parker last. So. That's I guess that's the guy that Joseph Parker Tko last. Well. Let's see we gotta get back to the callers I. Know We got Steve, with a boomerang from seven, hundred, four what up. A. Boomerang seven. Going wants. Twice intrigue. Up. You are there now Steve All right intrigue in Atlanta. May. Now. Steve's ready. Sorry about that Intrigue Steve. With up Hey what's going on? Yeah. Hey, thanks seven four shutout to him. I WanNa tell you said clay was listening to your show I. Kinda agree with that other key I think it might be difficult. But if he could get over here and hook up with one of the trainers over here. I. Think he has a lot of potential. You know he's alive dog in the ring. I see him gone places you know if he if he can do that. I don't know how difficult that is from you know to try to. Come over here but Another I wanted to say man, where's all your UK super chats or UK cash that they were saying they're sending You. You. You know you you granted them a you K- fire today, and I don't see any low for you man what's going on with that? What do you mean? I granted them did you not think Luther Klay well? He really good. I picked them. All right. So why is it? A UK US thing I'm you do thought he did good I picked Congo but I thought he did good and deserve to be highlighted not because he's from the UK. And I would like to see you get yet but you get a lot of. But you get a lot of people say, Oh, so you're going to defend it that way you get a lot of people send you in stuff when it's American and that. Now you WANNA, twist the narrative are I man I hear you I hear you got a weird obsession with the UK and that's cool. y'All do y'all got this thing. But keep in mind we had to American gas last night courtesy of Steve in Chicago I mean I don't understand like we're. Lovejoy on all the time we had the boy from Woo Hoo. Your Boise Coffee Coffee I mean. I don't go the division here like look clay is from the UK, right and Britney is from America. Raise from America `save your was from the UK and he was dillion whites trainer this Delia whites post fight week to a big knockout we're having Christine Lopez. She's from Colorado USA boxing coach. You know American Jose. Knee. Eva's is here living in America Puerto Rico. I. Don't know what you mean. Do you in your head right because I'm trying. To remain international you know we're talking about everybody now obviously, we can't talk about everybody because we don't know but I mean Klay did well, birds not about America or UK Dhamma Jesse who is trying to petition for splitting heavyweight division. He was American Felix Alvarado was what Nicaraguan I'm. I mean I'm not understanding this obsession that you guys got let. Oh So much energy for nothing. Back to benefit the leak on the Super Chess Khalif for bruce strapped MGM Dumi TV. It's one thirty am in Australia can't sleep. This show is bomb. What's up? That's what's up Mareo. then. My friend went up jeans abandon. Ben Don't super chat cal versus zoo big fight or not. We're going to intrigue the. Atlanta would up boomerang stay just listening right now. Intrigue Flash. Me If if not going out to CYP. Regular coal. Restarting is that yes, you do cater to. Seen messages where he takes on a gang up on trade and gave him a seven or eight wrenches and then put me in it try try and get side. It's like the it's always been back and forth, and that's what you do. I. Am trying to get order. If you do you gotta keep up with all the other ones who already got great fan base who gives them money money money I wish that to at you have more than UK do take Johnny giving you money because you actually do wreck them very well they don't show you love you give them because you protect them from the monster you protect them from the month you up in the middle of what I got going on with him and you take shots but I wanna make a truth right now the UK designate a lot of every day when he's not the topic album belong, but they can't do is lobbies are. Free on the show without without being tally I'm a comfy of it if you don't do it you got. The. Troops are now. And those are the occasions that I agree there are there is a constant daily wilder bashing but. I, take it as. This has been the wild voice for the bit of. Five we. So. You know. So people are going to want to direct their. Nanny Boo boos at US right like they. You know they. Want to rub it in. That's the thing to them. It's a tart. This is placed a target. In what I'm saying because they associate that with like Walter fandom. So it's like a place target. So that's why it seems. Not only that not only that. This is the thing the CYP and guys like the not factoring in we were heavy. On N. B. and AJ. Aj laws so that that that really made a Lotta enemies right like those people. In like that we Glenn. Glorified Andy and the way that it happened you know we did endure with as normal boxing fans I know I wasn't I was on some like ha ha That's what I. Wasn't on the Luta Klay Tip. I wasn't like Aj loss in in a good back and forth fight now I was I was a little bit. You know. Probably should know be. You know a lot worse little overboard over the top maybe Nah. LV SLUGGISH SAYS billion quote. UNQUOTE SLEEPY SLEEPY WHY AKA maximum silence. And there it is. That's that's what we did with with the AJ I mean. We put it on heavy it was. It was. It was a big Ha moment but men did you get any be? He say earl do Danny like he did Peterson now now you said it though I let me go back because we got a few I see Mark Blake as well. He says Shannon that what did you think if I got it got? Boxing experts just hit me with one of his Espanol Way I wanNA just make sure we didn't miss any you got. Yeah. You got the Supermax Way Puma, you got to that Yup Yup? Yup Mark Blade Benavente Alita. Yup Yup Ken says shot out. You said Kay all day constant. Who Coach. So another one from Ben is a Yup. You said that Louisville slugger, you said that boxing expert, you're up chat. Right. Steve Becoming panel tardy but associate pray and then Ohio. SCC Way people through. Three Laugh emojis he says. Steve's Pamper too late that's why he's always mad. He's a future Cyp. Three laughing emojis. To. Long Beach. Looking like. I'm drawing a blank J.. Man, I had Danny. Early you know as the early favorite myself you know, and that's subject that's subject to change and I just WanNa see more as we get closer to fight I wanna see the fighters more by just feel like Danny. has matured in a way class and aero force coming off the crash got to see what he worries at. So I to at the moment have Danny as the favourite. That's my car now. G. We got a j Mac. New, Orleans. Back attack. Your. Sport. Total disrespect. Snowstorm. Dull. The smartest thing you can do. Stay away. From? Telling. Hundred. In. Yogi. Yeah. Thank you Steve. Point I think Steve was trying to porn out when is a UK's show? UK Topic Not Weld Super Chess pretty much clearly state that WHO's supposed to show. And You gave them a show. Our disappointed. That's what our government onto the next. I do like the declared guy. His first name I did like when he said and he was speaking by his experience with. Josh Kelly is an Miti perception was given a fight tumors respect I agree with Mario when you know you don't when you at a certain level. There's certain amount of work that got gotta be done to be put in. So they got a difference between confident and cocky cocky guys go around. So I'll beat him and shit like an act like they don't have to work on floors confident guys real recognize real and then they go ahead and put the work. And so I mean whatever you like a perception could be taken by saying and giving a fighter respect that's better than you but you still are still work to be done as my first call. and. That's coming from a person who trains. And who trains others entrance himself. So you know that's the whole point I was trying to make unless you're unless you're a competitor unless you're an athlete, you can't understand. What that confidence does and what that realness does when you you know people say, Oh, just be confident. That's what Mideast point was and I understand it. But I think that the only way to get better is to recognize that and strive for better. We're going to Evan what? Yes. Hi Good Morning TV I'm not i. read the read the topic I mean Danny should be a higher higher odds and Mikey. I think everyone maybe not y'all a lot of people forget. We laughed at the Mike if I will not I came up people that almost got the mayweather McGregor treatment. Okay good luck with that, and then it happened in them. We saw what happened but. I won't go too far into a BA-. Look how much fun we are having in PBC. Pacquiao has fought Thurman Thurmond's Porter Pack Al Garcia. Porter. Has Fought Garcia spins spins. Porter now Garcia and then. I mean I don't WanNa say it I've been neutral this whole time. But where is Terence Crawford and all this man they? They have all fought each other except for him. That's really all I'M GONNA say I'll take. CARE. Call it the truth. In the next. We got Elijah. Elijah. What up. Your name you. Jesus aggressive difficult question you see why p jarred Lloyd have anything in common cause they both no respect pills they just like kids. You I want to also questioned, I've been meaning to ask you for a while and then I'll, and then I'll never took again but. You know water comes across discount says skids if you if you WanNa, find me five me you know I'm afraid if no one. Why was he so happy to fight people at Bellevue Why it was forcefully. pissing motion the media and he still told the guy to do other stuff rather than water taking out the trash if you don't trying to say so my question to you is. Why did it while to fight why he's meant to be killin these scared of anyone and I want to genuine also from me while the genuine. Is that you really are either. You know blocking it out or don't WanNa take it is true F- but. He was offered to dylan white fight and he said he would fight Dylan white if they put a John Contract and Eddie couldn't do that. So I don't know you know dealing White was never important enough justified him just because he was always be hind. Wow the but this is what CYP and Steve Talking about. We got a UK guess who fought a good fight. You cry. About, Americans, not paying attention to your fighters. This time we highlight one of your fighters in Europe Szeswith with our fighter. Then you wonder why there's a back and forth it's not a wild to show. We have the mentioned wilder and all Elisa does is call in repeatedly about wild. You are obsessed my man. X them for some underwear sniffer. Something you're bugging already like every day that you call in it's about wilder. Oh and this is the same thing I'm saying I, do know boxing. Do you guys know boxing or you obsessed with one fighter? You'll ending among spare rooms tickling you bollocks. Exactly. Adress. Hey. lost. That lost wherever you played around me. And listen to this. I want to talk about the interviews Monday listen this. I like these interviews. I'M GONNA be honest with you as a yes and a consumer I. Don't listen to the interviews with the superstars and stuff when you get champions and things. Ara I listen to guys in random walks gym somewhere in the middle of Pennsylvania that until you stories opposition to autumn shows you know John C. The the love the love joys and things like that man. I want more of that. You know what I'm trying to say Loofah Claes difficult is from that kind of mode as well. You know. So those guys tell real stories man those are the most enjoyable shows men when you interview guys are like champions or like contenders or something they think they're big shows mundane. We've been trying to tell you nothing. You Know Tell You keep your eyes peeled man just wait wait wait on. That man speak to these guys mandated. Rules, stories. These are my favorites interviews. Love. Chat. Thank you for the support we got coach Midi says Jay Mak Misheard or misunderstood my point I was saying that not all truths are to be said publicly. We're going to. Mr P. B. C.. In Seattle. What up? Mr He sing. My bad PBC and blow did not notice all this time but you were on blog talk and you didn't WanNa Talk Boso. Do you WanNa talk. Because I know you were Ringo. Flash if you ready to speak you are right. There we go. So. Don't know multiple beat me. I'm not supposed to. My nephew. He won't you WANNA fight the guy. That's proven themselves and a guy that people think he can't be. That's how. You Yeah as. We. Hear you grow. Sat tai-bo Riddick Bowe. Jackson. Really want. I. Was just walking a skype because blocked. Okay. Like it'd be could not only sometime sucks man. Yes I just came over here to listen to what I'm saying. Yeah Man. I'm loving the show as normal looking forward to the Feis tomorrow we haven't been show. Five o'clock. Five o'clock today. I'm definitely GONNA call their know what I'm saying already got a few Dan. I wanted like seventy eight, the ten zoo jeff on fight pro. So yeah. I mean Damn. All supposed they amount, and so I want a little bit off the. Nonsense I'm looking forward to the bed show today. See if we can be because we came via. Done Cayenne Roger Mayweather though man. On let me see. Intrigue. do me said he was just listened on you still all going once Twice. Jay Mac Boomerang. A. Mac? attack. Today. Badges cracked a cold at tree. In domain is financial domino's intrigue. Is listening stuff like that and tree must beat a writer. You must be the you must be the robot or the on a person who can call lane but sending jets or I think that's what y'all got going on as we're. But a I guess funny and do what you gotTa do to get whatever your ratings up and stuff like that but I mean, Greece. Tonight I got so much to critique an immediate my bad I misunderstood you like I say everything's perception when you hear. People saying you take it in and that's what I perceived you to say when you made to critique about him saying. joust Kelly or put it out there. S Marco. trae in the bay jumped on talk to us. Now, just listen trade. Met I don't get up early on Friday. I. I've been listening to. said. Out No immediate fifty fighting about early then. I don't know who to pick a way to get a little closer. A. A mayor. Of isotov. Kind of count. Like. J. Not. Now A little cheat. There's always saying support the show like videos eight at the lakes to man. And I understand is the UK people. Focus check everybody who will be watching any like three hundred some people in. The lights man they cheap. About this and You'll have to do something about this with us. One day one day. Do me. We'll finish not today because he going to try to hit me you know what don't pick me up I'm finished is not now. That's it. That's it. That's it. Seven or four everybody. Thank you. play play the ultra music like you did the other day he wanted to altro he said it's time to go. Yeah, that's fun. Now backing up day right back. Out Show news this is solid I. Do on mornings. Every first Thursday of the month we should do throwback Thursday and we should have our intro music the dynasty remember the gee I wonder if we could start. Remember. The. Title after that broken. He's gotten like he got. that. We Ain't getting that off your right what we should do a patriotic y'all whatever Garcia say he was from I see Canada from Kelley. Yeah you're wearing with Eric I was enthroned. Acts there by the roll call biggest. I mean Connecticut. Connecticut seats. Okay. To video what chair. He snuck in on us. Was Good. What a what else can you hear me I sound. Supachai. Nine just say great interviews in a great show as always on. I don't know I just I can't wait to put a fight. This weekend and I can't wait to see Gandhi Assia versus rose fence because I leave both guys I just. I'm always gonNA rock where early go kayaking. No car accident. But it's going to be a good fight. It's GonNa be tough fight for both guys but. You just have to see wait and see in November. So yeah and I, put me down I've got Ramirez I definitely got Ramirez over victim postal. Yeah. That's Let's see if postal turn turns it around on. US. Joe. Yeah that would be crazy. But yeah, that's my off. Honestly that would be like the best thing that can happen 'cause then is like I got a call a truce with the fans is like that's it. You know The law may improve since the bud laws victim would have became a two-time. And believe stone said Ricky Burns became a champ after the law so Nasr GTO INSTAGRAM and twitter will be back at five pm for the better show bit in the odds with TV and only on patron. Dot. com forward slash to box and voice you could join us to beat any is with TB, on Patriot Dot com forward slash divisive always wear together we come together to get it right As a community ain't about who smarter who better is trying to get it right. And get it done for low price at debt. So join us for beating the odds with TB where we get in that movie La, and that's only on Patriot dot com forward slash the box voice. Try, really hard not to fall asleep all of us. Assume that five o'clock. Yeah No, you know some of US have trouble getting up at some of US have troubles at five o'clock on. Time really is situation they got the Dominican naptime nightmare. That I fell asleep last Ryder. Yeah. What happens happens when you burn the candle at both ends, you know what? I mean. Today right there. That's his. That's his passive aggressive. Way It saying Pitch Yaw Fall. Asleep while talk. Not even just a lot to do have it. Mini Mini Midi might have text me five, six in the morning senator results that. I feel you plus. Listen. Shot I'll make it clear though remember I said on Fridays I'm good anytime I said two o'clock was good. So five o'clock we went seven o'clock last week right here eastern. Yeah. So. Let's make it. Let's make it five, but you know it should have. Tried to write. We tried to go to P. B.. Now. WHAT'S THE UNDERCARD? PBC. I. Vs Danny Gussie Dina. And that's if you WANNA make a because I know Danny your boy is go. I'm just saying. That you receive your. Man I told you tracking number but you know you don't want to do that but I'll let you know coming but. And Yeah I can't wait for the fights on Saturday. One hundred percent ABC day you. Can't wait to see you know. Certain people make sites or not make places you. That's my car. Is Don given three or three to one on his bed? Was He asking for a straight up and that's the thing people always want to best. Bet is you know what? I'm saying like I lost a total of ten bucks last week because of. who's the parlay killer last week fucking Dylan White. You don't even why why y'all I'll put. Up. Dom Twenty five dollars, Bro you know the deleon and white ruined the three hundred and fifty four dollar par lay off a two dollars or he only when I listen to me all he had to do was win because Congo was already upset. On that on that Paula. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had all favorites in Congo than I had favorites and Gallimore, which obviously I would have lost, and if you noticed like the advice that we ultimately gays kept all those bites by no more tips five PM. His later. Russa. It's been so long since they played that. Go chant you already know James Benitez Gimme a flash he was busy at work never want all flash FLASH IF NOW WE OUT ON A. Coach Myers with the Super Chat last minute. So we send it in the cash. He says Danny Garcia has a better resume. Even Bud at one forty then Crawford. Even though Crawford was undisputed at one forty hands up emoji to don't Celena truth they're gonNa hate you coach and you they're gonNA. Let Yo while you out did teaching kids lives. Maya's. Admires coming, through super, chats fire. Free, that means we have in boxing boss. This Saturday eleven am where Mario was gonna be going against King. I'm mean we got DUMI going against J. P. and we got some other battles that I don't know offhand but I'm sorry about that. But we're out. Call you battle battle. Catch me on I G Alex Underscore Doomsday underscore ally E. N. Ez. But hit that thumbs up by continue to support the show in any way you can. We appreciate it you know it doesn't always gotta be. Monetary. Thumbs up offering. Shaken that bell is free you know and tell a friend that might be interested in this show maybe because they liked boxing to like you, you know that spreading the word. So we appreciate that man everyone that tuned in this morning. Thank you very much. Would be back with that bit and show you already know that we get together like Voltron Sway Puma said where you pick said Damn three hundred and eighty, three, fifty, four of two dollars yes we're kind of police. Beating the odds not be confined out Doggie and listen look I should have listened to Stephen Y. P. and not frigging believed in white allegedly being five mandatory interim Chan. I put all my chips, the Congo and he came out on top then white. The. The. Coach Myers did you get that? She has better resume than bud? As, get yourself some new angles of Bose Ladies in Judge Beats What are they beats? Actually was attending. Those right. These are fire official. Chan those are not beats their eats the untitled. Say. 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